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No. 1470488
As the title says.
Post experiences, why you can't stand them and such.
This is NOT about your own disorder, so don't blogpost/vent, there's already a thread for that.
This thread is about mental illness you can't stand in others.
Please refrain from coming in this thread and say stupid shit like "Oh that's why nobody likes me" or "Damn seeing this thread as a [thing] sufferer makes me uncomfortable" because nobody will pity you.
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>>>/ot/854673 No. 1470641
>>1470499Dunning-Krueger effect.
Not a mental illness per se, but yeah pretty annoying
No. 1472505
>>1471643at that age bpdchans are either long gone and have only 5% chance of ever changing, or are fully recovered. no inbetween
>>1470499most people I've met like this have been religious nutcases kek
No. 1472903
Pro-mia/ana people, since half of the disorder is psychological. Seeing their "thinspo" "weightspo" "bonespo" or whatever fucking weird terms they use scares me. The people in those pictures are like half dead zombies and somehow it's attractive to them.
>>1472836The issue is that they think their low self esteem = low ego too.
No. 1473022
>>1472505It’s actually around age 30 that bpdchans start to either mellow out or take a nosedive. Early 20s is prime bpd behavior.
Personally, I can tolerate any type of mentally ill people that actually want to get better and can admit they have a problem. Bippies, autists, bipolars, anyone can become well-adjusted if they put the work in and have support. But the type of people that think they’re JUST FINE and everyone ELSE is the problem are the worst fucking people on the planet. Also people that “don’t believe in” psychiatry or therapy. They’re always the most horrible nut jobs you’ve ever met.
No. 1473195
>>1470488I'm extremely biased due to personal experiences, but people who simply won't admit their mental issues, refuse help, and make it everyone else's problem is perhaps the worst mental illness and deserve 0 pity.
I'm not talking about the ones who downright do not have access/means to get help or the cognitive capacity to do so by themselves obviously.
My maternal family is cursed with severe mental illness they deny and refuse to seek any kind of help (unsurprisingly, a lot of them are tinfoil christcucks anti-vaxers and moderately anti-medical everything). In the end, I became the scapegoat doormat, a mentally ill crippled retard myself.
This isn't to say everything is my family's fault, as I'm an adult now responsible for my own consequences, but the older I get, and the more I talk through therapy sessions, the more I realize how badly I've been damaged because of fully grown adults decisions that I always took all the blame for and hated myself for.
This type of "wah I'm mentally ill therefore I'm excused!" behaviour amplified online in the past decade or so is just as dreadful.
I'm rapidly deteriorating and might not live much longer anyway so it doesn't matter, but the fear of becoming those I despise the most and perpetuating another cycle haunts me. The pain of hurting someone because of my own monstrous nature is far worse than the pain of locking myself away and cutting all contact with human life.
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>>1473235Nta but my family does adore me ♥
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>>1473247>>1473243Haters just jealous of my reborn baby monkey steez.
No. 1473566
>>1473560no source but personal experience, but no. they just try a lot and fail.
>>1473022 is correct and based with
>>1473195>>1473039every time bpd is mentioned in one of these topical threads, the intolerable bippies come to start arguments and defend themselves while being anti psychiatry for some of the reasons previous nonnies stated.
No. 1473606
>>1473593how exactly am i projecting? what "you people" am i? the intolerable bippies who come onto this thread whenever it is mentioned? isn't that what you said?
to be on topic, munchies are insufferable. i have to deal with one regularly and she's just about gone through any and all illnesses by now, not only that but she also diagnoses other people with shit. i lost weight because i got physically ill and i got the anorexia diag from her, some guy at work she is convinced is ocd. it's like how pixielocks has gone crazy consuming mental health content where she sees it everywhere.
No. 1473890
>>1473039we get it, you're
abusive and want attention from the thread.
Anyway, autism.
It's always fucking autism.
Either they were neglected and don't know jack shit and they just expect people to put up to their shit or they were helicoptered to the point they have a meltdown if someone doesn't even know autism, screaming that everyone is ableist.
Plus as another anon said in the previous thread, the diagnosis is so fucking vague it doesn't make sense, because it's a too large spectrum where you have slightly awkward people to severely retarded sacks of meat.
I wish there was a pre-birth exam that could see autism so we could abort them like those with down syndrome.
No. 1473984
>>1473447>> They'll bitch and whine saying they have no idea how to fix themselves but if you try and give them the slightest piece of advice, you know what they do.I feel this
nonnie. This is /r9k/ in a nutshell. I was trying to understand incels but they all have this attitude.
No. 1476456
Two of the most insufferable moids I've encountered have the same pattern, I wonder if they're actually diseased with something:
-Very petulant. Everything was a disaster to them but they didn't actively do anything to be in a better situation or remove the source of discomfort, they just expected it to disappear while bitching and moaning. I'm even talking about the littlest things, such as misplaced knives on the table.
-Grandeur delusions. They're clever, intelligent, better than anyone, beautiful…but at the same time, they felt suicidal by low self esteem, this cycle would go daily.
-They wanted everyone to invite them, include them, talk to them, acknowledge them…even people who don't know them
-No interest in other people. Can't name the favourite color/food/simple things about their so-called friends but if everyone didn't know them, they would meltdown.
The last trait?
-They both trooned out.
Coincidence?
No. 1480533
Gender dysphorics by far. TiFs, Aiden, fakeboys, dysphoric women, whathaveyou, all make me cringe. It's very embarrassing and retarded. I get the reasons why they gravitate towards troonism. Society at large, their upbringing, their sexuality, in some cases, their awful pasts. I get it logically due to the circumstances she was dealt with, she thought trooning was the answer but in my heart, I think it's just very stupid and low iq.
Detransers are fine, at least they woke up. Unless they are still suffering from 'muh dyphoria', then they're stupid.
No. 1492321
>>1492309Sad part is that once a person starts they never stop thinking about it. People can go 10+ years without doing it and decide they don't care anymore and break their streak. So I have some sympathy but at a certain point you need to find other coping mechanisms, especially if you're a parent. I've read about parents that cut and I can't imagine being a child of someone that self harms, it can't be healthy to grow up watching the person that's supposed to protect you harm themselves when things get tough.
Generally speaking though I don't have a lot of sympathy for parents with any kind of mental illness, including depression. I genuinely think that if you're mentally ill in such a way that can't be hidden from your kids, you shouldn't have had them. Bad genes can be counteracted by good parenting (nature vs nurture) but if you give a kid bad genes AND subject them to your mentally ill bullshit it's an absolute miracle if they turn out alright.
No. 1492720
>>1490303Anon isn't wrong though kek.
>>1492321I've noticed mental health awareness getting wider these years, which is a good thing, but it's spawned a lot of often young parents (early 20s) who are anti-recovery and expect their own fucking children to cater to their own mental illnesses. As if a child is expected to understand your outbursts and random emotional detachments to them. Just spreading the cycle, I guess.
No. 1500108
OCD but specifically the intrusive/fixation thoughts (idk if that's all OCD or only certain kinds). I tried dating someone who had very real intrusive thoughts and rituals. And even though I cared about them a lot, it was so so hard to have literally hours long conversations where they just would not be able to let a certain thought go. We would talk things to death, she was even in therapy so we would go over every single thought and it's like she knew they would be a distortion but she just couldn't let it go or change her thinking. Truthfully it just hurt too much because she would end up getting upset that she couldn't let things go, and I would get upset over feeling helpless not really knowing how to help her.
Like for example…maybe she would see a video online of idk some scene from a movie where an animal dies. And she would get it in her head that the scene was real, and an animal was actually hurt, and she would start to panic about it. And we would then talk about how it was clearly a movie, it wasn't an actual animal, how laws are in place to make sure animals aren't mistreated on sets and there's no way an actual death could get filmed in a movie, etc etc.. basically inventing and then shooting down every possible anxious thought she would have. And then after ages of that, she would still circle back to "well, I just can't be sure the animal wasn't hurt, I just can't stop thinking about it". And until the obsession passes, it would be all she could talk about.
I tried so hard to be empathetic but I am only human and I admit that it was the main thing that broke us up. She felt unsupported when I would get overwhelmed, and I felt helpless when she had bad days or backslides.
I still think about her sometimes and I really hope she is happier now and has found some way to let those thoughts go. The hardest thing was always seeing how much she wanted to just stop fixating, and would even cry sometimes because she would get so frustrated with herself, but I know it wasn't her fault. Shit, writing all this hurt my heart even though it was years ago. :/(:/)
No. 1500120
What I hate most are the people that get a diagnosis and 100% behave like what is written on wikipedia. I've known so many of them, when I was younger it's been bpd, than ahdh and now autism, their only personality trait is their diagnosis. Had people come up to me, seeing scars, telling my that I must have bpd like they do and that I might react xyz and if I feel like abc, the whole catalogue out of wikipedia and I only nodded because I always knew that I don't have bpd, I self harmed for other reasons.
Besides that narcissists, was raised by one with hysterical and overbearing traits and a lot of suicide baiting. Told her countless times that she should go to therapy, always got the "I know, it's my fault, but I can't change" speech, day later everything was forgotten, then it would start over and over again. It took years to understand that it's not my fault and it will take years to recover from it, but I'm happy that I'm setting boundaries and if she can't change, I don't care anymore, I can overcome my mental health issues, which, to some degree, were caused by her behaviour, so she should at least be able to try.
No. 1501024
>>1500790Seconding this. Especially those who have (or often pretend to have, I think) a 3edgy5you personality disorder.
Often also found in people who blog about their mental health for all internet to see, usually with self harm or suicide threats, using up resources others would probably get more help out of and continuing to cry about how you are the most tragic character in the entire universe.
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I hate bpd fags in denial. Literally exhibit all the symptoms have even referred to themselves as bpd and still don’t believe they have it.
I know this person who does lots of drugs, destroys friendships, lies to their psychiatrist, refuses therapy despite having the money and health insurance, self harms, and then tries to play it off like she’s some naive deer in headlights type where she tries to pretend she’s normie as possible because she lacks an original personality.
I’m seething because I was fucked over by this bitch.
It’s just a huge slap to the face that she’s covered in scars and doing hard drugs and has the audacity to try to make herself look reasonable and normal when she’s so far from that.
No. 1502119
>>1501855How does that make me better? Wow I can spot people with the same bad behavioral problems as me.
You sound insecure and need to stop projecting your inferiority complexes on internet randos.
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I'm so tired of pretending troons are women. Why do people entertain this mental illness? (Rhetorical question.) It's actually clown shit that something that looks like pic rel not only can call itself a woman, but can be sexist and have it be considered funny and appropriate. Fucking Buffalo Bill faggots
No. 1510789
Petulant BPDs.
Bippies are already bad to deal with but the petulant subtype is a hellspawn.
Talk to them? You're doing it out of pity. Don't talk to them? You're ignoring them.
Do plans with them? You're annoying. Do plans without them? You don't care about them.
Will rant for hours about a minor thing that bothered them and will ruin their entire day on it (for example, a misplaced cup) and then go down on a hating/self hating spiral (misplaced cup? it means you're an egoist because you didn't put it in a easy reach for them to find thus you're the worst fucking person to them). Will not seek help because despite feeling like shit, they deep down know, as in narc traits, that crying and shouting gets them attention.
They have no empathy, they mimic emotions. They can't, for the life of them, figuring out that they're a crying baby and people please them out of exhaustion. They expect you to be little actors of their mental theatre, once you get a day for yourself and failed to let them know you're offline, they will go berserk thinking you're actively hiding something from them.
They don't love. They can't fucking love. Expect them to go out with you, act like a nice person and then, after the night is over, spewing out every ounce of hate they have just because they didn't vibe with the night. They can't take no for an answer and can't take accountability.
If you hold them accountable, they will shift the topic to "You also did this/You made me do that.".
Waste of meat and breath.
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BPD. Self explanatory, no addition needed.
EDs especially anorexia. Like OP from the first thread said, it would be fine if they kept it to themselves but they always end up bringing everyone into it, commenting on other poeple's weight (even if they're at a healthy weight or even skinny), they just can't help but to project everything. I'm no HAES supporter but have you ever seen edtwt? Literally posting pics of random fat people, not even cows, and being cunts to them. They're like that IRL too btw, my two anorexic friends cant help themselves but to comment on strangers weight and eating habits.
Had a friend with severe anxiety and BDD and OCD and she was the most insufferable person ever. I ended up being forced into a caretaker role. She would self harm on her face then call me. She would also project her BDD on me. Like one time she came over, and first thing she tells me "Wow! Your skin looks really good aside from that one pimple" (i didnt even notice the pimple before she brought attention to it). She would also say stuff like "its compforting to feel sad and miserable whe you're drunk" and would romanticise the hell out of her issues.
Also i was fine with bipolar people but I just had intense drama with a roomate who's bipolar. EMTs literally came over last night and had to restrain him because he was being dangerously aggressive towards me. He's a 40 year old faggot as well btw. Anyways his lease ended yesterday so I'm free from him.
I suffered mental health issues when I was younger but that just makes me less empathetic because I know how much of it is selfishness, manipulation, refusal to take accountability, learned helplessness etc. I'm pretty much normal now (aside from sporadic deppressive episodes in which i keep to myself and dont bother other people and still remain somewhat functional). My thought process is that if I was a crazy crazy crazy bitch and got fully better and exhibit none of the behaviours I used to, that means that other people can get better too if they try. But they don't actually want to make an effort. Most mentally ill people, AT BEST, take their meds and go to therapy and thats it. They never actually try really hard and implement hard but necessary changes. They're too compfy in their own misery.
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>>1544313Rare footage of anon calling you mentally ill vs you calling anon sociopath
No. 1544487
>>1544336I'm more of a schizo myself
>>1544343Kek
No. 1544508
>>14923212 months late and I sort of agree with you, although
>if you're mentally ill in such a way that can't be hidden from your kids, you shouldn't have had them.is a pretty naïve take. People can develop serious mental illnesses after having children, even without having a
known genetic component. It's like when people (i.e. pRedditors) say that "if you're too poor to take care of your kids then you shouldn't have had them" when one's financial situation could very easily deteriorate from when they first had children, such as when losing a job. Circumstances change all the time.
No. 1544995
>>1544513>a poor kid has high chances of living a normal and average lifePoor kids on average are more likely to suffer from mental illness than wealthier kids, are less educated, more likely to commit crimes and/or do drugs, earn lower incomes in adulthood, live shorter lives etc.
Obviously not every poor kid will end up that way, and to assume so would be disrespectful. But you really cannot understate how heavily poverty impacts the development of a child—definitely
at least in the same way as a mentally ill parent, if not more—and it's ignorant to neglect that fact. Generational poverty is real, extremely well-documented, and horribly common in society.
>t. child of a mentally ill parent that ended up somewhat normal No. 1546417
>>1545924As long as the conditions of
>>1544995 hold true regardless (as it does in the real world), the genesis of the financial state does not matter; therefore the initial claim
>a poor kid has high chances of living a normal and average lifeis unsubstantiated. There is a lot that could be argued about who possesses agency under poverty, but that would launch an endless debate that ultimately does not fit this thread.
>>1545974Yeah you're right about that kek
I'm pretty busy in school though so at least I spend a little less time here
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No. 1567182
I don't believe in ARFID, that one very convenient eating disorder.
I don't believe in it because it's always fast food, sugary stuff or things like pasta and pizza, not normal food or some weird combination of them.
I understand not liking textures/looks of a food, for example I really hate "clear" soups, the kind where you can see the bits floating in broth, it makes my skin crawl, but I don't believe at all in something that's like:
>Ohhh I'm so skinny/overweight because I have ARFID and my only safe foods are pizza, chocolate milk, hot dogs and chicken nuggies :( Ohh I can only eat those! My disorder says so!
Shut up, god. Stop being such a bitch about food, grow the fuck up.
No. 1567199
>>1566737bitch, learn out of it. do therapy, idk, figure it out or stay alone. people who hurt others don't deserve empathy from their
victims.
No. 1567354
>>1567182knew a kid who legitimately had it, he'd pretty much have panic attacks if he had to eat anything outside of some extremely bland, extremely specific foods. not all junk food mind you. he wasn't being a spoilt bbrat, it was debilitating for him. he was also legitimately autistic
that said i'm sure there are plenty of uwu neurodiverse mentally ill smol beans who pretend to have it as an excuse to live on tendies
No. 1567415
>>1566737no one is inclined naturally though. just another anti-recovery type of post common to social media. yes you went through trauma and it damaged your brain, but if you're aware enough of this fact, can you not be aware enough to change?
it's just lack of responsibility.
No. 1567448
>>1567182I agree so much. A family member of mine who is also in her early 20s has it and it's so fucking stupid. I understand eating disorders, and I can see how someone who may have other conditions might not be able to try certain foods (i.e. autism, or if someone gets an upset stomach easily). She, on the other hand, has NO CONDITIONS.
>Eliminated chocolate in elementary school because it "made her throat itch" (she has zero allergies)>Eliminated meat in middle school because she found out about pink slime (she has zero moral, environmental, or dietary reasonings for refusing to eat meat)>regularly decides she can't eat something anymore, can't just say she doesn't want it, always insists it causes her physical discomfortIt's so fucking tiring to deal with. All she eats is pizza, macaroni, and other beige foods like garlic bread and rice krispies. Her diet was 75% tostino's pizza for probably 5-6 years (not exaggerating) and she had to have her gallbladder removed a few years ago because of her shitty diet. I don't personally care anymore, but it was embarrassing for a while when we'd be at more formal stuff around our family or when I was with friends. What fucking adult takes two bites of plain pasta with marinara and refuses to eat any more because "it tastes funny?" It tastes like every marinara pasta at every restaurant we've ever been to. I'm long past feeling mortification on her behalf, now it's just a matter of suffering through her eating choices. Our family is visiting in a month and she wanted to go to a concert, I don't mind driving the multiple hours to the venue but I do fucking mind that she sent me the menu to a chain called "I heart Mac & Cheese" and told me she wanted to eat there and that she already had scouted out the locations in my city and the city we're going to.
You literally cannot escape their cruddy diet because it 100% is attention seeking. I've known people with celiacs or other dietary restrictions, and they never bring it up and usually plan in advance what/when they're going to eat so they don't burden other people. People with ARFID require that everyone caters to them, from restaurant choice, to leaving things early because they're hungry and can't eat anything, to abruptly deciding they have to eat this one thing or can't eat something else. It'll be months since we've visited and the next thing I know we're driving 30 minutes to an italian grocers for one specific product. I love her and don't want to sound hostile, I just have never ever vented about this.
Part of my animosity toward this bullshit disorder is that I grew up with her, and her eating seriously affected mine. It took me until I was 17 to start trying new foods. I don't have ARFID, I'm a little picky but I'm not a child and if there's something I don't like I'll just eat around it or politely decline (which is a completely novel idea to people with arfid). ARFID (90% of the time in someone without some other condition) is a pathetic excuse used by people who were coddled as children who still want to be coddled as adults. Her health has suffered because of it, and it has and continues to impact other people. You can tell when someone is putting on a show of trying to get better too, and people with ARFID are absolutely terrible about it because they'll go on about how they finally got the courage to try a goddamn mango, and of course they didn't like it after having it in their mouth for a whole 3 seconds because of a texture thing or because "it tasted funny," but they expect you to be in absolute awe of their stunning bravery.
No. 1567484
>>1567182there are autistic people who has it like
>>1567354 says. But in those cases you can always tell when its genuine. Also if you seriously do have ARFID then you need to see a specialized therapist that will help you eating new foods instead of going "hehe i can only eat my safe food because of ARFID". It's obvious when people fake ARFID to be quirky. Tbh being a picky eater as an adult is embarrassing at best and unhealthy at worst. I would maybe have more respect for ARFID fakers if they admitted only eating pizza was a health concern and something they where working on.
What I specially hate is when parents diagnoses their own toddlers with ARFID. It's natural for a child to be skeptical over new foods and it's the parents job to guide them trough it stop blaming everything on disorders and do your damn job
No. 1568189
>>1470499i know this post is old but i have to respond because you just described an old coworker of mine to a T. it was insane how deluded and self-obsessed he was. i remember one time we were having a promotion where you scratched off a ticket to see if you got a coupon, there were three possible choices and you got to scratch one with each card having one win. he was talking about it and said each customer had a one in ten chance of winning and i was like no, they have a one in three chance of winning, cause there's three choices. he literally stared at me and went dead silent, it was the weirdest thing in the world, like he was malfunctioning irl. then without skipping a beat he went "obviously there's a one in three chance of winning nonna, i don't know why you would say there was a one in ten chance, that doesn't make any sense, haha there's three options so there's a one in three chance, duh." i was so shocked i didn't even know what to say, weirdest fucking moment of my life. he definitely had autism but i have no idea what else that made him so narcissistic and unable to accept he was wrong that the only way he could process it was by rewriting reality so the other person was wrong. it was nuts to see that kind of delusion in action.
No. 1568591
>>1568564I have a mom with OCD and crippling anxiety. Phone calls are hard bc any time I mention doing anything, the ritualistic warnings start. It sucks because I can't even tell her about mundane activities without knowing I activated her OCD and feeling terrible about it. Now, I just pretend I do nothing, just watch Netflix and go to work. No details. I can't even tell her I drove thirty minutes to visit my friend without knowing she'll be hyperventilating about it for days.
Last year she called me repeatedly, in tears, over a period of weeks, because she had a paranoid fantasy that I died of heavy metal poisoning. This happened because of one phone call where I mentioned I was eating a tuna sandwich.
No. 1568685
>>1568591My mom has OCD, and it requires intensive therapy, and often medication, to live a normal life.
An interesting fact about OCD, is it's moreso an amplifier for everything else you have. For your mom, her anxiety is made unmanageable
by OCD. My mom has a percocet addiction, for example, and it is all she can think of because she's physically disabled and in such severe pain, if she's not heavily drugged she's either thinking about getting more oxy or how she can't do anything due to her pain.
No. 1568718
>>1568693Sometimes OCD develops or gets worse later in life, anon. The changes you experience during pregnancy could probably even
trigger it. And it's illogical like many mental illnesses, some things may not
trigger your anxiety like other things do.
No. 1568792
>>1568591AYRT. Yes it's the exact same way with my mom. I can barely tell her anything going on in my life or else she freaks out. A week or so ago, I told her all I did was get gas for my car that day and she spiraled into this rant based off some movie my brother made her watch about how I shouldn't ever honk at anybody while driving even if they swing into my lane then leave my phone in the car while getting gas or else some guy will sneak inside while I'm filling up, grab my phone, find out where I live, and kill me and all my loved ones kek. I tell her she should really try to find something to do like crafting or scrapbooking like she used to and I'll pay for it all, but she thinks she's too old for that stuff.
>>1568693I typed out a whole thing but decided to condense it into: men seek out poor, mentally ill women like my mom and trick them with false love and promises of life stability and a happy family only so they can have a being with no strong support system they can use and abuse.
No. 1569027
>>1568693My mom wasn't physically disabled or addicted to Oxy/percocet until I was 12, and now she's unable to function without it
She's had OCD her whole life, hell, I have it worse than her but medication does wonders for managing it, so long as I avoid
triggers (raw meat, human/animal waste) as much as humanly possible. With some people, especially unmedicated OCDchans, those
triggers are unavoidable and you get people who are insufferable.
No. 1569221
>>1569027Sage for possible medfag but nona, have you tried ERP therapy? It's probably not a good idea to avoid
triggers because that just makes your OCD much worse. The whole purpose of ERP for OCD is exposure to that
trigger so the OCD can't attack it anymore. Medication helps, but it only blocks out the symptoms rather than gets rid of them permanently.
No. 1569423
>>1569169I'm not sure, actually. But mine is actually far different from hers and got really severe, really fast, out of almost nowhere because of inchworms and plants, and seeped into other things quite quickly. Hers is moreso what pain she's in or if the door is locked or oven is on.
>>1569221Surprisingly, no. 12 years of intensive therapy and nobody thought to try that. My guess is that child me washing my skin off and having panic attacks was a greater concern than the possibility of me never being capable of self care. Thanks nona!
No. 1569441
>>1568591>>1568564Random moments of panic that your adult or near-adult child has had some horrible accident is an occasional thing even for non-mentally-ill mothers, have to tell you. She should work on rationalizing and compartmentalizing, but even if that's not possible, she could - and needs to - learn not to unload it on you frequently/in graphic detail.
On your end, you can tell her it makes you uncomfortable/feel negative/drained to hear every time you talk and you don't want to hear it. Then enforce that boundary.
Parents/people get all sorts of weird, especially over time and depending how life has played out. But every child of a needy or overly intense parent (or any other kind of parent)should know that it's okay to have and require boundaries even when it's going to hurt someone they love.
Your mother is an adult, struggles or not, and it is her responsibility to manage her own emotions and fears rather than to pull you into them. And that goes whether she is diagnosed with a severe mental illness, or is "just" depressed/disappointed in life/overusing substances/lonely/unhappy with what her life is.
No. 1569940
>>1569423Hopefully it'll help. Talk therapy, CBT, DBT etc. don't work shit for OCD because they're methods for treating egosyntonic disorders or traits, whole OCD is not, so they often do nothing or make it worse. Good luck nona
>>1569477I'm pretty sure if two autists or ADHDs bred the child would also be an autist or ADHD anon. Or if you're talking non-neurodevelopmental then usually complex shit like schizophrenia or bpd or bipolar gives the child a much higher chance of developing it too.
No. 1573212
>>1470488Autists and the way the internet coddles entitled autists into getting their way otherwise you're "ableist" and can't understand how hard it is to demand people change their behaviors to suit your neuroses make me so fucking mad. I have OCD and it would be ridiculous for me to say that other people are being horrible to me for not indulging my particular obsessions yet autists get away with their self-infantilizing bullshit while being some of the most
toxic bullies you will encounter if you're friends with a particularly bad one.
No. 1577415
>>1568074anorexia is so ideologically ugly, slave morality bullshit. oh im so much better than other disgusting women who give in to their appetites, im a pure clean angel aescetic because i deprive myself of all pleasure and sustainance. such spiritual loserdom, literally a holdover from ancient loser copes
out of interest, why are you chill with aspd types? the only ones ive ever had contact with are like borderline retarded, no prospects, the only goal of their tard tier manipulations is sex/drugs, and they're not even savvy enough to be polite about it. theyre like mindless scrotedrones in my experience.
>>1568383tbh ive had similar difficulties with
other sperg girls. one in my primary school was very irritating and really latched on to me because we were similar in our spergy interests, but she was unpredictable and just put me on edge.
>>1577397fuck i would love it if someone said this to me ngl. nothing makes me cringe harder than someone taking me aside for a "serious talk" because they saw my old keloids, actually makes me want to puke with embarrassment No. 1578032
>>1577485I have literallyoverathousand but they're concentrated in one place so even after many years although they're mostly white and flat the flesh is completely different, when I was barely an adult I worked a lot of technical jobs that took a lot of physical labor in really hot temperatures and when I'd move certain ways sometimes the people at work would could get a glimpse if they were on a press with me. I never talked about them and was really nice and conversational with people but the spectrum of reactions to them were just too much, and since I was only 18 I didn't really know how to process it all. I have also made sure the entirety since they happened to never purposely show them in any capacity in public or around family, friends. There was a guy that stopped what he was doing and hugged me for a really long time to the point that it was uncomfortable, I didnt like that but also didn't find out til later it was because he had them in the same spot. He started following me around after that and I was mad because I thought he pitied me. That's one of the nicer? ones I guess but mostly it was men literally twice my age and above talking about it incessantly with eachother even if they'd never spoke to me. 18 years old and a 48 year old man called me into the office and asked me to cut the new paper cards because he said it seemed like I would be good at it. The guys were snickering about it. I could handle that as a joke now and probably make a casual comment like yeah yeah come on but I look back and can't imagine doing that to an 18 year old kid. I ignored it mostly but thinking about it now, people were pretty awful. Most people don't know now and I would never talk about it because I have never felt the need to. Open and closed situation. People who feel they need to be represented or shown just confuse the dominant part of my brain that wonders why you would want to willingly expose yourself to the cruelty of other people. The only reason I stopped was superficial entirely, I and my bf at the time had pretty bad self harm tendencies and I just felt disgusted by other people's opinions. If it weren't for that I imagine I never would have stopped, if I'm being honest. Again something I would never say to anyone in any context. People love to use that kind of stuff against you, having no idea what you dealt with or how you were raised or treated at the time. A lot of times they don't realize that men also do it, through how I did it I learned about a lot of men who did the same thing. There's a cliche that only teenage girls do it, but I've known several grown men IRL with it, even more online. It's a very cathartic form of control as a child when you are being hurt in worse ways idk. I don't go out of my way to think about it anymore but it's peculiar that people will learn that one insignificant fact about you even years and years later and decide that you deserve some sort of taunting or cruelty.
No. 1588981
>>1588371I have a director who is just like this. We are dancers, dance is fluid, sometimes we end up in a different spot and that's all right. Sometimes someone attempts to be helpful and tells her we did something different last practice and she gets extremely angry.
I don't think it's narcissism but I don't know what else to call it. Constant actual, minor gaslighting (insisting she said something minutes before despite everyone saying she didn't), getting very accusatory and escalating quickly at anything someone says that goes against what she wants that very second. It's not that bad because everyone knows how she is, so it's not embarrassing when she picks a fight and you have to "lose" or back down (only way to get her to chill), but it still sucks because we can't give any input and must somehow read her mind at all times. I don't get it, the world isn't out to get you, people aren't trying to antagonize you, why does everything have to be a fight?
No. 1612513
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I think I genuinely can't stand other people with mental illnesses. This is gonna sound retarded kek, but I joined this meme page on Facebook that was supposed to be humorous and make light of our mental illnesses, past or present. I then saw some cringe PSA about how anyone laugh reacting at a post will get facebook jail, so I questioned it saying isn't that the point of the sub? Of course I get muted and now I can't defend myself against the nutters who are inexplicably angry about me questioning something. People with mental illnesses are so fragile and sensitive and it makes them really insufferable to be around, especially as someone who is recovered from depression and other crippling mental illnesses. I just wanted to look at funny memes and try to have a lighthearted outlook on my dark past, but it seems like so many other people in the throes of their mental illnesses want to stay there and attack anyone else who has moved on and improved their lives.
No. 1613350
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Men with borderline personality disorder.
Holy shit. Holy FUCKING shit!
So help you if you ever fall for their lovebombing and find yourself in a relationship with one. They are satisfaction-less, black voids where you can spend a lifetime shoveling effort and care into only to receive an iota-to-nothing in return.
Just escaped a six month situationship with one, here are some highlights:
>at least one 3+ hour fight over mundane trigger event, almost every day
>if he had a bad dream about me (i.e. I left him, cheated, etc.) he would use that against me and act like I had to make up to him over these fictitious dream events with acts of devotion or verbal reassurances
>constant mood swings, black and white thinking, never happy for more than a few hours at a time
>guilt trips, controlling behaviors, gaslighting, extreme paranoia
>talked over me and dominated every conversation with his interests, he actually didn't know a damn thing about me
>I was never allowed to be alone, especially on the phone, and he would become angry with rejection if I asked
>intruded on me in the bathroom
>always complained that I wasn't doing enough for him even if by objective standards I was overcompensating for him
>complained about almost every date, trip, and activity I planned for us meanwhile I was supposed to kiss his feet with endless gratitude for my once a month dinner date
>in fact, he could not handle criticism at all and would fly into rages if he sensed any
>constantly accused me of cheating, especially loved to accuse me of fucking my boss
>could not hold a job, employed only 1 month under the table by his bro whom he talked massive shit about
>btw said everyone in his family treated him like oh such shit until he'd catch himself in his own stories where they treated him actually more than decent, also a trust fund kid
>chronic alcoholic and weed abuser
>refused therapy or would future fake promises of going to therapy to avoid accountability
>acted like he knew better than therapists, yet adopted lingo such as 'gaslight' to weaponize against me whenever I brought up issues
>took his medications on and off and would use his intermittent use as proof that meds don't really work
>suicide baited at least 2x per week
>used my kitchen knives to cut and destroy property in rages
>would harm himself if I enforced boundaries in his attempt to train me to never say no to him and do as his will
>accused me of making him "submit" or crushing him like a can just for reinforcing reasonable boundaries and being firm
>jumped out of my moving vehicle once because I wouldn't take him to the movie theater after he berated me
>caught him watching porn behind my back but accused me of cucking him when I was charging my clit vibe
>always had sex on his terms and never mine
>impulsive spender for himself, extremely stingy and scorekeepy when spending on me even for when he owed money such as his half of rent or trips and activities we were supposed to 'split'
>escalated violence with strangers even when it would put me in potential danger too
>history of violence in general
>zero friends irl except for one online friend or two who he always argued with
>hated most of my friends and isolated me from social events especially if other men were around
>if I got called to work he insisted to go with me and would become irate if other men were there
>always tempted for me to breakup with him, when I agreed that we should he would swiftly turn it around on me and insist I would need to call police to remove him
>robbed my house on the day he left for good while I was not home, and specifically agreed to break up because I was not around to see what he was stealing
>admitted he was a monstrous piece of shit over text but ofc never did shit to change it or make amends
Men with BPD should undergo forced sterilization. They are demons. Bad enough they may darken the doorsteps of poor unsuspecting women, but they don't need to burden society further by reproducing. Too bad they're so criminally under-diagnosed because BPD is a "women's disorder."
The only reason I won't ALOG is because he'd enjoy the attention and image of victimhood too much.
No. 1613519
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I don't know why anorexics get coddled so much on here when they're so ideologically similar to trannies. It's like they willingly put themselves in situations that trigger their body dysmorphia and then get mad when it's triggered. They also love to project their own mental illness onto everyone else. They require constant asspats and validation to survive. Bulimics have more fun, they're less snooty and stuck up.
That being said, unlike anorexics, at least trannies are funny/entertaining (even if unintentionally). Same thing with ASPD and NPD havers - some of the funniest people alive, and they're fucking psychopaths, but that's exactly what makes them so funny. I usually get along pretty well with them. They're not afraid of what people think. Talking to them is like talking to a brick wall, though. They're extremely stubborn. I don't mind their narcissism because I actually take a sort of voyeuristic pleasure in listening to other people whine about their lives (maybe this is a sign of some personality disorder that hasn't been invented yet).
As everyone knows, BPDemons are called that for a reason. One day you're their favorite person and they can't live without you, the next you mean nothing to them. They're not content in their own misery, they have to drag everyone else down with them. I don't think men get diagnosed with BPD enough, though. A lot of MTF troons I know fit all of the criteria for BPD but doctors don't recognize it as such because they're male.
No. 1613537
i can let a lot of mental illness from women slide because they're women and by virtue of being born women it justifies how fucked up they can become. they usually have empathy and are capable of being better. they arent as entitled. they can carry the weight of complex suffering without chimping out, usually.
for me its male bipolars OR schizophrenics.
Bipolar men are terribly controlling down to the slightest detail. they have all the shittiness of an ongoing BPD breakdown but if they are smart, they masterfully manipulate you while manic. its all your fault, you are my soulmate, love and hate is just yin and ying, we can make so much money, this was all your idea to begin with, etc.
Schizophrenic men can display similar behaviours but they end up becoming violent while unmedicated. they go down a religious cult hole that is so common among them (but they are speshul) and if they can obtain ANY influence over people then they see themselves as jesus the chosen one.
While schizophrenic men are violent and toxic to others, the women with this disorder instead tend to harm themselves and self destruct. I will never associate with a personality disordered, bipolar or schizophrenic man. these disorders take the core of scroteism and twist to the limit, you will see the real fucking devil if you let them in
No. 1613863
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I can't deal with PTSD sufferers. Sorry. You'd think a traumatized person would not want to talk about a horrifically traumatizing event, but all of the ones I know go on about it all the time and try to make it into a competition. Also they do the same thing that depressed people do where they trauma-dump and disguise it as a "joke." You could wish them a Merry Christmas and they'll go "haha can't relate my father was an abusive alcoholic who hung himself on Christmas day 15 years ago" like ok
No. 1614410
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Autistic radfems >>>
I'm aware plenty of autistic women become furries or tifs but the ones that don't and are like this picrel are great.
>>1613519Anon are you sure they're actually aspd or npd? The people you describe just sound like wild but normal people.
No. 1614473
>>1614410I don't want to defend male autists too much, but I've noticed there's a massive difference in offline vs online autists. The online autists are insufferable, chronically depressed and fall
victim to extremist ideologies such as the alt right and/or troonism (often both at the same time). Offline autists are proper nerds, they'll sperg about their preferred topic but they don't have the unwarranted overconfidence from being online nor the selfishness of a depressed person because they spend the day doing their special interest which keeps them happy. There are bad ones there too, but they're usually about 100 times more likeable.
No. 1614549
>>1613863Actual PTSD sufferers don't talk about their trauma all the time like that. Not trying to say people who do are all faking, but the people I know with PTSD mostly avoid having to talk or think about their trauma, to the point of using code words for certain events or names that they don't want to say out loud.
I think PTSD sufferers have this reputation for trauma dumping because those people are the most vocal about it, whereas with the silent majority you won't even know they have PTSD unless you're really close to them.
No. 1615065
>>1614549jesus, that's been exactly my thoughts for idk how long. that's exactly what makes me actively avoid other people with similar issues and what's made me become basically resentful towards anyone who talks openly about whatever shit they've been through, or anyone who's just into those kind of questions or topics.
another thing that bothers me a lot is that ptsd has really made me into a shitty and gross person in seriously bad ways, but this seems very stigmatizing to admit. not to be dramatic but sometimes i wish there was euthanasia for ptsd so i could get it.
No. 1615074
>>1614549>>1615065God fucking dammit thank you.
I think that yes, it's mostly an online thing. When people trauma dump randomly either they're terminally online or cluster bs who want attention, actual ptsd sufferers don't want to recall the events and cannot say certain words, most of them are avoidant and very difficult to get close to. Some even suffer in pure silence or have this weird disconnection in between mind and body (like they would cry their eyes out but say that they're perfectly fine with a monotone voice, because ptsd fucks up with your brain and body). Panic and anxiety attacks, memory loss…this is the "true" ptsd and if there was some sort of lobotomy for that, I would get it because it isn't easy, as for my experience I wish I wasn't so fucking pessimistic and suspicious all the time. And yeah, I hate those attention seeking fucks too, because usually those who claim ptsd just want some compliments and coddling.
No. 1615148
>>1614974The ones that become self-aware learn that they need to protect other people from themselves and vice versa. In my case, that has made boundary setting a high priority and that 100% comes off as being a dickhead. It's better than the alternative.
Honestly I wouldn't say gaining and growing self-awareness has made me more manipulative, it's made me better able to control it. BPD manipulation tactics are usually subconscious, but gaining self-awareness has allowed me to become aware of it happening and to stop a lot of it.
I've been working on recovery for a decade now and am high functioning, but I'll always be an asshole. Any BPD that thinks they'll ever be 100%, even 80%, "good" needs a reality check.
No. 1615323
>>1615221Yes.
That's the point of the thread.
And it's also useful to tell apart the actual disorder from the internet versions. Why are you mad? You a bippie?
Most of the times that people come here to vent often mistake a disorder because people on the internet like to claim it as a badge for pity points while all of them have a thing in common: attention seeking behaviour. And that behaviour is not found in the disorders most of them have but its always and always found in BPD. It's important to reclaim space and call people out. Why are you mad?
No. 1615703
>>1615221What's the issue with armchairing? I hate BPD cause of experiences with diagnosed BPDs. If someone new I meet acts like a BPD then I'm not sticking around to confirm if they are.
Agreed on the second thing though.
No. 1615903
>>1615703That's totally fair, my take is just that you can dislike someone and avoid them for whatever reason without saying for sure they have x disorder. People can be assholes just because, and it looks a bit silly to so confidently declare something about someone when you can't confirm it, like when anons diagnose cows. Armchair posts muddy the thread in the same way online malingerers muddy the diagnosis they claim but that's just my opinion
To be more on-topic I'm having a hard time being sympathetic towards my bipolar friend. I had never met someone with it before so initially it was jarring to see her go from her extremes. I'd be helping her with errands and such during what I know understand to be her mania any time I could (I was having fun at first as a lot of her projects were related to building stuff) then I'd go over and all of a sudden she's sobbing and can't hold it together but still trying to finish everything she needs to do (her life circumstances don't allow her the choice to not do so), and I feel helpless because what can I do other than listen? I can't really give advice as I'm much younger than her and don't have any life experience. I feel selfish for putting some distance between us but both of it has gotten very tiring, the mania was draining me physically and the depression was draining emotionally, just very hard to watch and not be sure how to help. More selfishly since she's so much older than me it's depressing to see since I worry that's my future (not bipolar, just depressed, but still).
No. 1618189
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We don’t diagnose men with BPD enough. And I don’t mean that in a “boo hoo, nobody cares about men’s mental health” kind of way. We need to lock up these men in some sort of high security prison cell as a preventative measure and throw away the key. Imagine a typical female BPDemon with the aggression, entitlement, heightened sex drive and physical strength of a man - I can’t imagine a world in which a man with BPD WON’T become an abuser. They’re the particularly insidious kind too. They lure women into their trap by pretending to be sensitive tortured artist types. Ezra Miller, Alexis Marshall, and Marilyn Manson are perfect examples of what happens when you’ve got men with obvious untreated BPD running amok. They have an advantage over BPD women, who are usually dismissed as crazy from the start, so it’s easier for them to rise to positions of power through manipulating everyone around them, and then abusing abusing that power.
No. 1618667
>>1618189I usually avoid this thread because most of anons here are unhigned and have issues themselves but we really do need to talk about borderline moids more. Especially in normie spaces BPD is associated with pretty much exclusively women so most of people don't even entertain the idea of a male who exhibits BPD traits actually being BPD.
ALL mentally ill men are dangerous idc, even the most deranged women out there are still safer to be around than borderline moids or hell even. Even autistic or ADHD moids are unhinged but I digress. You're right on with your description. All the borderline scrotes I had the misfortune of meeting had this artsy soft boy persona and kept talking about lonely and misunderstood they were. I think the genuinely introverted, shy ones are the worst biggest they seem the most unassuming and non-threatening to normie women.
>>1618381This too.
No. 1618668
>>1618189I usually avoid this thread because most of anons here are unhigned and have issues themselves but we really do need to talk about borderline moids more. Especially in normie spaces BPD is associated with pretty much exclusively women so most of people don't even entertain the idea of a male who exhibits BPD traits actually being BPD.
ALL mentally ill men are dangerous idc, even the most deranged women out there are still safer to be around than borderline moids or hell even. Even autistic or ADHD moids are unhinged but I digress. You're right on with your description. All the borderline scrotes I had the misfortune of meeting had this artsy soft boy persona and kept talking about lonely and misunderstood they were. I think the genuinely introverted, shy ones are the worst biggest they seem the most unassuming and non-threatening to normie women.
>>1618381This too.
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>>1629116>get helpPicrel but it’s me trying to get doctors to give me benzos I literally need because my panic disorder/agoraphobia is so bad it could eventually give me heart disease (low blood pressure and 110+ bpm is normal for me, my blood work is perfect and they’ve done chest X-rays and ekgs and I’m not fat, all is clear, I’m just fucking STRESSED).
(no1currs) No. 1629197
>>1629116fair, but also stay the fuck out of my life if you insist on eating like an animal and chewing with your mouth open around me.
those are the most common
triggers, no one is out there
triggered by a fan.
also i tried getting help but it's straight up not available. plenty of shrinks don't even believe it's real and the ones that do can't do anything about it.
No. 1629281
>>1629279Ugh NTA but I’m the squidward anon trying to get benzos from the magic conch. I’m blessed to not have misophonia. The only thing I can think that would upset me would be someone shaking their leg incessantly (makes me nervous) or not having a fan on (stagnant air makes me feel like I’m suffocating). If someone got
triggered by fan noises I would never be able to be around them period.
>t. Currently sitting with three fans pointed at me from diff directions No. 1632582
>>1632518That's not depression, that's BPD and it's very under diagnosed in men.
If a male becomes an emotional leech then randomly says he's interested in you, it's BPD. They play the poor depressed angel act to lure you in to believe they're actually sensitive souls and then make your life a living hell by emotional blackmailing you. Textbook BPD.
No. 1632590
>>1632518God I know someone like this. Constantly bitching and moaning about how he has no social life
even though I'm sitting right fucking there, his life has no meaning, the world is going to hell and whatever else. When I give him a suggestion on what to do about it or how to be happier he basically says it's too much effort and he'd rather stay in his little pool of whining and misery. Don't occupy my free time then stupid bitchall, go cry on someone else's shoulder.
Yes I'm trying to ghost him kek No. 1632591
>>1632582It's not heavy enough for BPD imo because it doesn't seem to encapsulate any of the other traits. I actually theorise depression, if untreated enough, can turn bpdish though.
Also, it's probably been mentioned somewhere already, but cutters. I get the thrill of self-harm or whatever but if you're older then 25 and still do it, it seems to be a pinpoint for low emotional regulation skills because every cutter has been that specific category of mentally ill. I knew a woman who was 37 and cut while having two kids with her alcoholic husband. Sad all around.
No. 1632595
>>1632590Literally. They'll push away all the friends who actually care about them and then cry that everyone leaves them. Newsflash, if everyone leaves you, it's probably you. If you're a woman, maybe it's not intentional coming from your part, but either way it's still something you need to take responsibility for.
Even if you turn all pick-me for this type of scrote, he'll probably be like "you're just talking to me out of pity" or "we probably won't even be talking tomorrow"
Another observation is that this type of moid tends to be a porn addict to fulfil that lonely sad pity hole he has in his chest and if they're not whining about how sad and pathetic they are, they'll be trying to hit on you or make it awkwardly sexual because men are just emotional retards.
No. 1632612
>>1632518>>1632595"Name me a reason to live"
"Think of all the underage anal rape porn you have not yet watched!"
No. 1647014
People with that specific type of anxiety that turns them into controlling bullies. Like … I get it, it feels really really bad sometimes, but please figure out some way of handling it before it turns you into a scary, snappy rage person who blows up over tiny shit. Everyone ends up walking on eggshells. When this type of person feels anxious, they get to treat everyone around them disrespectfully, as though others don't feel terrible getting snapped at. Again, not all people with anxiety, just the type whose go-to reaction to the uncomfortable feelings is lashing out. I can hang with those who get quiet, become avoidant, act kinda weird, or are capable of asking others for what they need. More than willing to cater to an anxious person's needs when they're polite and upfront about what those needs are.
No. 1647066
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>>1647014A former coworker was like this and I let them bully me out of the workplace. I absolutely cannot deal with people like this because my dad would have anger outbursts when I was younger.
No. 1647232
>>1647066Same
nonnie, it wasn't my boss but the customers at a store. People who would scream at me because a piece of wood would be 50 ct more expensive than it said on the sign or something, half the time they weren't poor either (specific accent from a nearby town, filled to the brim with rich people).
No. 1647296
>>1647014Fucking hell, you just described my entire family. They're nice, caring, perfectly lovely people until something makes them anxious, at which point it's all raised voices and catastrophizing. I spent my teenage years pretty much avoiding my parents because talking to them felt like walking through a minefield. It's not that their concerns were invalid, they just had the worst fucking overreactions and felt like they had to be in control of everything for it to go right.
I also hate male autists and ADHDers specifically. Female ones are usually nice, if rather eccentric and sometimes complicated socially, but the male ones are almost always complete assholes who shrug off heinous things like cheating, pedophilic tendencies, and addictions because of 'muh disorder'. And also whatever thing makes people so sensitive that they take the least charitable interpretation of neutral comments by default and cannot take any criticism or even mild ribbing without having a meltdown about 'disrespect' while simultaneously being woe-is-me shrinking violets who expect to be approached in public when all they do is sit around and pout.
No. 1647326
>>1647014I have stopped hanging out with people with anxiety. its so draining because you have to plan everything because they can't do any planning themselves cause it makes them anxious, if you ask them what they want to do you have to constantly assure them that you wont get mad and even after that they still only response with "it doesn't matter to me".
they are projecting. im not gonna get mad over something as trivial as us not agreeing on what to do but anxious people seethe so hard if you dare to suggest something they dislike. Except they are not gonna tell you that they dislike the idea, they are just gonna act passive aggressive.
After all the planning they still end up getting mad at you because at some point you overstepped a boundary that they didn't tell you about. If they didn't wanna hang out in the first place why the fuck did they agree to come then? I dont get how people with anxiety always manages to have huge friend groups.
Like, they always whine about how they hate conversation and social interactions and other people yet they always cling themselves to huge friend groups because their emo larp is a fucking cope. They don't even stop their fucking larp when hanging out with others stfu about how much you hate us while you are hanging out with us. Just fucking go home if you feel miserable.
Also they always start the stupidest drama.
>someone breathes at anxious person in the wrong way>anxious person makes a huge deal out of it >refuses to talk to the Wrongdoer in private instead she talks to everyone else in the group and creates a rift >everyone confronts Wrongdoer who, naturally is confused over the hostility and says it was a misunderstandingThe Anxious person starts to cry
>"omg it didn't feel like a misunderstanding how dare you dismiss my feelings" >now everyone drops whatever they are doing to comfort Anxious person>"omg we are sorry for dismissing your feelings Anxious person! we shouldve known better! next time you get unjustifiably mad at on of us then tell us directly so we immediately can apologize and confirm how much of a victim you are" and then it ends with Wrongdoer as the bad guy who has to make up for causing Anxious person's meltdown because a simple apology wont do. If you dare to tell Anxious person that she should have more faith in our friendship and not jump to conclusion and assume we hate her then you're met with "omg anon be more sensitive she has anxiety she cant help being a drama lama".
Normally both parties can apologize when a misunderstanding happens and the other people in the group can be honest about the mistakes, but as soon as an anxious person gets involved in drama you
have to act like they are a
victim and did nothing wrong.
If they miscommunicate something to you then its no big deal but if you miscommunicate to them then you are literal Satan
No. 1648200
>>1648172How is yoga girly kek, does it even burn calories? I feel sort of bad for anachans but I probably wouldn't if I knew one in real life. I've seen some of those 'ed
tw what I eat' videos and the girl was complaining about her friend taking her to the beach because 'she's skinnier!'. She's doing something nice to cheer up your miserable life, least you could do is not bitch to the internet about it.
No. 1649956
>>1648169it really fucking is. they're the loudest, shallowest, most hysterical and scariest. these bitches would "steal" your personality traits, cheat, and victimize themselves. they get violent and threaten to cut or kill themselves if you don't do what their deluded mind asks them from you, then seek pity from friends and talk shit about you. they are massive leeches both mentally and financially if you live with one, they never uplift anyone after the initial stages where they get a crush on and fucking obsess over you and copy everything you do. fucking psychotic behavior. dangerous because at first it seems like a lonely person wanting friends and finally finding someone alike. after some time you can tell these types of people from normies. the ever depressed aura, moping and blaming, sudden extreme changes in appearances, lack of stability in life or incapability of independence, often proudly drug abuse, or use hypersexuality and faking disorders as a way to get attention and keep seeking new
victims to suck dry.
No. 1654959
>>1654086"He has a disorder Who makes him disobey!!!"
Nah fam he's just insufferable, chronically online and neglected by his mother. Just listen to how he talks, about ai and "not sponsored!!" content. He's being raised by men on the internet, if you don't understand rules you're either severely autistic or a prick. He's gonna grow up so fucking entitled, I can see it. Take away his tablet and see if he's still "disordered".
No. 1656426
>>1656016Unsupervised internet access, especially with how accessible and trendy political shit is on all the apps, yeah, it can turn a child stupid. he's not using the tablet to play, he's using the tablet to use ai shit that's probably being fed with a lot of fucked up things. I'm sure as hell his mom didn't taught him what "sponsored content" is.
The internet right now is not our internet anymore, kids have no concept of privacy or parasocial relationships, they just hear an opinion and go "yep, that's reasonable."
You're the basic one if you think that that is not a bad influence on his already existing disorder.
No. 1661108
I don’t know who needs to hear this but, as someone who recently got out from a relationship with a BPD moid: You can’t fix him. You can’t fix them. Drop straight away your BPD partner, because male BPD is going to ruin you, it’s like filling a bucket with a hole with your blood.
In particular, these happened:
>Never happy, nothing made him happy nor satisfied and when he happened to smile, it was for some trivial shit that he couldn’t take into account and it’s not depression, it looks like a forced bias against happiness
>Fake empathy. They use fake empathy to get stuff, wether it being goods, money, attention, support but cannot give it back because they don’t know what being “an empath” means
>The “strong feelings” thing is bullshit. Them saying that they love deeply is a massive cope to make up for their long periods of rage and sadness, they use it as an excuse.
>Their “love” is conditional. They love people only if they make something for them/are always available/if they can fix them and they try to gaslight you into bullshit like “but friends/lovers are supposed to be there for each other!” But when it’s your turn to get some support, they randomly have the big sads or big rage or “cannot deal with that”.
>Be prepared for cheating and massive jealousy at the same time. They cheat because they make up fake scenarios where you don’t “deserve” their poor concept of love so they go around and cheat and then make it about you, it’s your fault. And I got an STD for that.
>In particular for BPD and this is terrible: they just are like that. They often say BPD is made from trauma but a moid can have a perfect family, a perfect childhood and then decide to become a piece of shit. Most BPD men have no trauma, they’re faulty in the brain at birth.
>Therapy cannot fix them. Fixing them would mean doing a total reset of the brain and no one really heals from BPD, in the case of BPD men they’re also entitled to some degree and they resist therapy because they’re aware that being like that gets them attention, positive or negative (it can go from the partner being totally obsessed with him to them checking constantly if he killed himself…A lot of my worst days in my life can be traced when my partner would threaten me with suicide)
>They don’t have a personality and that’s the whole point lol. They are fake. They will wear the perfect mask, lure you in with that and then make you feel bad if you leave them because they need attention. Only attention.
>They are control freaks and want to constantly “punish” people. In particular, my partner would start shit at night and wake me up only to argue and the excuse was “I had a bad dream and now I’m angry.”
Leave them alone. They don’t deserve anybody. They’re not even aware of what they’re doing.
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Nonas, I generally only have empathy and give more leeway to mentally ill women in my life but ever since dating a BPDchan and discarded after being lovedbombed to death, I find it difficult to have any sympathy towards untreated BPD women. The timeline and horrifying shit I've endured throughout our relationship:
>broke up with her gf to go after me (yes i know huge red flag I was daft af)
>expresses her lack of empathy towards other people
>badmouths all of her friends and my close friends
>picks fights with me over random accusations, dumbfounded AF
>realises she has BPD, reads her the symptoms and encourage her to seek help
>lovebombed and idealised me obssesively within weeks/a month
>got intimate and sexual within one date
>alcoholic
>made jokes out of my sexual trauma
>into incest
>drunkenly tells me she can't be loyal to one woman and likes to fool around
>confront her about what I expect in a relationship (loyalty, monogamy) and if she can't accept that we should part ways
>tells me that she wants to be committed to me
>we go on trip overseas and visited a club
>i felt uneasy af and she fools around with the sex workers there and asks me to join in
>told her i'm against all of that and set my boundaries about it
>idealises and then devalues me within hours
>everything is fine and lovey dovey for a few weeks
>lovebombs and expresses wanting to be my gf before her solo trip
>argued with her over text bc she wasn't replying for hours
>discards and blocks me everywhere except one platform
>met up with her on her birthday and she shows zero remorse or any empathy towards me for her behaviour as i confronted her
I'm sorry but this whole experience has left me traumatised and with trust issues. I'll never go near an untreated BPD woman again for love or friendship. They are such MINDFUCKS
No. 1673622
ADHD. They interrupt and talk over you constantly, leave a mess everywhere they go, destroy other people's property, are late for everything, when something is important to them they never forget it, but if it's something important to you, it's "oops, I forgot! Muh ADHD bad memory tee hee", they simply don't value other people's time and play the victim when its called out.
Basically a raging hurricane of self-interested destruction with ZERO conscientiousness but for some reason it's one of the least criticized mental disorders. (See: this thread) They manage to escape all accountability because of it and nobody ever has the wherewithal to call them out. Like can we just acknowledge that these people have no business in the adult world, let alone being given methamphetamines on the government dime so they can talk over you even faster? Being around their manic energy is so draining. I'd be willing to bet that the majority of people with bad credit scores are ADHD, and I also think some people, especially males, use it as a diversionary tactic to conceal their narcissism. It's like the perfect disguise for disregarding other people and the RSD is just fucking narc rage, simple as.
A lot of the women are just as bad though. "OMG I totally forgot we were supposed to hang out today!!!! I'm so le quirky!" Bitch, fuck you, you're on your phone 13 hours a day so I know you saw my confirmation text.
No. 1674547
>>1673622You're taking words out of my mouth
nonny. Fr I texted one of those ADHD people on their birthday over the weekend, with the intention of giving them their present. I went to a yarn fair in April, I chose their favorite color as a yarn to crochet socks, which is not as easy as I had to redo one sock from the heel, and it still doesn't look 100% perfect. I asked them if they're home on their birthday so I can just bring the birthday gift. The literal text message I got back was:
"I’d rather nobody came by at the moment"
The person could have just gotten to the door, just taken the present, said thanks, that'll have been enough. Nope.
So now I'm hesitant to give that present ever, I might frog the whole yarn and make another project for myself instead cuz fuck em.
No. 1695266
>>1695245samefag
Honestly anyone with a mental illness who refuses any help because they want to stay a
victim. I saw a woman get torn to shreds because she explained how a "disability hack" actually would be more likely to make people sicker, of course that meant she was ableist despite being disabled herself. I've been told I am ableist for wishing I had access to therapy at an early age (I was diagnosed late for multiple disorders) and that instead I should expect the rest of the world to bend to me, and therefore I hate disabled people. I get things can be hard but most people with mental disorders can ease things with common sense like if you know lateness is a issue set alarms, but most of them love pity so
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People with ASPD, and edgetards who WANT to have ASPD. The first group are a bunch of psychologically jaded fags who are either locked behind bars for the worst possible crimes anyone could ever commit (at worst), or whiny little losers who get on Tumblr or Quora to whine about not having friends even though they don't have the empathy to keep or deserve any (at best). The second group are most likely either a bunch of angsty teenagers, or straight up autisimos who mistake their failed social lives for being completely devoid of having any humanity and self-diagnose themselves with ASPD to runaway from the realization that they failrd at building a social life because they're just stupid losers.
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this bullshit
it's a self-defeating cycle, and i don't give a shit. you push people away because you're extremely needy and demanding. grow up. go to therapy.
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Eating disorders should classified into paranoiac subtypes (the ones that need to feel in control) and narcissistic subtypes. When people post their binges/do bodychecks/post shit online about food and anything and need the constant approvation of others, that's the same thing as being an attention-seeking self harmer. Eugenia Cooney is a narc, constantly looking at herself and doing little dances to show off, the same can be said about Lucinda and in the other part, there's the HAES movement. They're all narcs, that's just rely on food and its lack of as a vehicle to get more attention. Most people talking about ED online don't have one, they're using it as an excuse to get attention like those who faked being depressed in the 2010s.
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autists … i find it hard to believe that most people who claim their autistic actually are, especially annoying cunts like picrel
No. 1840121
>>1839565So many are self-diagnosed. Even the ones who got a diagnosis may end up going to assessments like 5 times and over-exaggerate their symptoms just to get a diagnosis. Also there are faulty assessments that diagnose people in like 1 hour when in reality an ASD assessment should take a lot longer. A lot of people don't seem to realize that you can have autistic traits without having ASD. It needs to affect multiple areas of your daily life.
>>1839925You are probably lucky (or unlucky depending on how you look at it) enough to be a self-aware autist. ASD is often ego-syntonic and so autists usually lack self-awareness.
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my sister has two diagnosis, one autism,
one just Mental Retardation. if it is autism, its the worst form there is. my single mother takes care of her 24/7, and it has taken the worst toll on her. my sister is nonverbal, has not been separated from a screen (tv, dvd player, ipad, iphone) for more than 20+ years, and will literally wail and shriek when going out in public, slobber and drool all over herself, and hit herself in the face with her sharp nails (because she wont let you clip them) to the point she has scabs upon bleeding scabs on her chin and jawline. her screen addiction has caused her to go cross eyed a few years ago, and since she has to be strapped to a chair and sedated at the dentist, my mother doesnt regularly take her to the dentist, so her teeth are literally fucked. she has buck teeth and crooked teeth. when she was young, she would pull out her hair and eat it, leaving bald spots on her head. she doesnt do this anymore but i vaguely remember one night at my grandmas, we would share a bed when staying the night, and she pulled my own hair out one night and ate it. the icing on the cake is that she cannot use the bathroom herself. she has had to wear diapers all 23 years of her life, and her adult sized shits cause such a mess that, if i were her caregiver, id just put her in the shower every time she shit. it gets up her back, down her legs, on her bed, because she cannot tell my mother that she shit herself.
i feel like she is becoming more like a vegetable every single day. she used to be able to give cues for what she wanted, when she was hungry, when she wanted to go somewhere, she even used to be able to say "dada" to my father, but now she just grunts and hums, and whenever i come to visit my mother or hang out with her, she will wave her saliva covered hands so close in my face i can smell it. she cannot walk properly anymore either. at my grandmas old house, she would run up and down my grandmas stairs all day and laugh and have fun while doing it; now she needs major help ascending and descending stairs because her knees are turned inward and she waddles instead of properly walking. i cant imagine that her vision is good either due to her crooked eye.
i find it hard for me to feel any sort of true love for her as i never had a relationship with her. i never "hung out" with her because she couldnt talk, and she would just watch videos and dvds all damn day. i was also charged with taking care of her pretty much every day of my life growing up starting in my teen years, having to change her shitty diapers, feed her her shitty food, and listen to her shitty videos on full blast volume every single day. now, my mom has to do it all by herself, and i personally think she needs to put my sister in a home as soon as possible or my moms quality of life will only decrease more. my mom doesnt have time to go out and do anything because of my sisters condition.
ive heard most people in my family say they want to smack or punch my sister when she cries, my mom will yell at her "shut up" or "no one cares", or will shove her cell phone in front of her to get her to stop wailing, and i feel bad for saying this but, id probably do the same thing. i get why they feel that way about her, but its still sad to hear them say those things. my dad has completely abandoned her pretty much, he would always preach autism awareness and rep autism awareness clothing and even has a tattoo, but he doesnt see my sister maybe more than 4-5 times a year, while my mom is stuck with her all year long. after she was born and they found out what was wrong with her, it messed my dad up so bad he started taking pills to cope, which ultimately led to my parents divorce.
i dont know what the right answer is, but i would not ever want to be in my moms position. i wouldve put her in a home or some type of care the moment she could start walking. a child like her really is just too much for a family.
No. 1840242
>>1840188Shit like this is why I'm pro abortion overall all other reasons. Mental retardation also means physical problems to some extent, many people believe that mental disorders and physical disorders are two separate things when in reality, they're very much connected.
I wish we would develop tests for heavy autism and mental retardation directly in womb and while this may sound unhinged, forcibly abort fetuses who cannot survive on their own. Eugenetics is not a bad thing, the only people who love mentally retarded children are extreme munchies by proxy and narcs that feel good by the attention their token retarded child gives them. So sorry for you nona.
No. 1840259
>>1840157This happened to me frequently throughout the years. As a child. As an adult a few times. I started audio recording my family in retribution when they'd heap it on me to show to my therapist and friends.
They were horrified by what they heard.
No. 1840327
>>1840188I understand
nonnie, my aunt has a similar condition and my mom insist on bringing her everywhere we go, its specially bad when we go to restaurants and my aunt just starts screaming and crying and nobody can understand why, she also has to be fed and has trouble eating, so everytime we go out everyone is looking at us, which I know i shouldnt mind but between all the looks and how she just starts drooling all over the place i just sometimes just decline going out.
She also wears diapers and I remember one time she shat so much my whole sofa was covered in shit, and for a week my whole house stank and I had to avoid bringing friends inside the house.
I dont know how my mom has dealt with her for 50 something years and I will never know what she actually feels for her. I dont ever talk about this because im scared of getting judged by people that have never lived this situation and would just say "but its not her fault" ok ? it isnt mine either kek
No. 1840337
>>1840188My male cousin has severe autism. I don’t see him often, only on holidays, but he has a very threatening demeanor. He’s 6’3 and pretty heavy set. He has beaten his mother so bad that she will have to lock herself in the bathroom until he calms down. He has also punched my fragile tiny grandmother in the arm. If he ever went after me or my mother I wouldn’t hesitate to off him with whatever is in my vicinity. I know it’s not his fault, but I can’t help but hate him. He’s in his 40’s now and really should be put in a special care facility, but everyone on that side of the family is against it. One of these days he’s gonna kill his mother, I’m sure of it. They refuse to call the police on him when he goes ape mode because they’re afraid the cops will shoot him.
In the case of my aunt and your mother, it might just be a mother’s love, but idk I couldn’t picture myself sacrificing my entire life to raise an adult toddler.
No. 1840409
>>1840188This is awful, I'm so sorry nonna, and of course for your mom. Feels like this is one of the cases where putting her in a home would be lifesaving. 24/7 caring for a disabled person is bound to shorten your lifespan.
also kek Of course your dad's noped out of caring for her, how fucking typical.
No. 1840426
>>1840188I'm pretty sure I made a rant just like this, but about my aunt and my retarded cousin. Like I said before, I roll my eyes to the back inches of my skull when I hear women and see users confidently saying they would raise a severely retarded child, knowing full well that this would be the outcome…because
no the fuck they wouldn't. They're just saying that to look all virtue signally and rebellious in mother culture, because I seriously doubt 99.9% of all the morons saying they would do this even have the patience to raise a normal kid without having a periodic breakdown about how hard it already is.
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Nah, stop coping. Actually caring people don't have a disorder.
No. 1867439
>>1867085Nah it's serious. Look at the bpd girlies in the replies going "frrrrrrr our disorder is sooooooo misunderstoooooodd!!!"
Maybe the op posted it trying to be ironic or such, but the bippie tards flooded it with selfpity and attention fishing. They latch onto anything just to justify their "strong emotions".
No. 1867449
>>1867441Because Bippies love to victimize themselves. NPD people aren't out that much, like ASPD. Bippies are dramatic and hide behind the misunderstood label, they inhale massive amounts of coping, like they can sense on some degree that something's wrong but instead of searching for help, they blame others, they always make themselves the
victim and love to brag about how they only feel strong emotions and it's not fair!
I'd take a NPD over a BPD any day. A NPD person true, it's shitty, but it almost never slips and wouldn't do retarded push-pulls dynamics. BPDs is just NPD but retarded, they're in the same cluster but only one of them loves to being victimizied and pitied and since lately the topic of mental disorders is being de-stigmatized, they take advantage of that, by accusing everyone of ableism/insensitivitiy towards their "disorder."
BPD also makes you "catch fleas", basically since it's retarded NPD and it frequently has slips, it makes your brain so confused that it basically traumatizes you with mixed signals and you start to see that shit everywhere. While you can start to hate someone with NPD (talking about it since it's the same cluster), with BPD it's trickier because since they're retarded, really, they have the mental capacity of a child, thus making them literally retarded, they often pull the
victim card and start to cry to manipulate you to feel bad for them. Getting out of a BPD relationship, when someone is not used to their shitty act, it's hard because they make you believe that they want to get better but eventually, they don't. It's like stepping in shit, whining about the stink and checking everywhere but your own fucking shoes, so they end up in enabling circles and dismiss any help that you want to give them. Not worth the time and energy, they're failed people that deserve and need to be completely alone.
No. 1870154
>>1843077Same. Not only that but they also usually have a massive
victim complex and are more or less incapable of surviving on their own, yet they have the audacity to look down on everyone else. What use is a 158 iq if you can’t cook a meal for yourself without burning the house down? What good is it if you’re hardly capable of attending to your own personal hygiene?
Oh and I hate the way people with the mildest autism ever think they can judge the families of people with severe and complex autism? They say stuff like “I’m autistic and I never hit people so there’s no excuse!!” About someone who’s essentially a retard, or get mad at their parents for being sad about their child’s autism when the kid can’t even speak. Or they compare caring for their own child with mild autism to caring for a child with complex autism. “Well WE think little Timmy’s autism is a gift! He knows so much about space so you should be grateful for your child who’s the same age and still in diapers!!!” The autism is really showing. Same reason we shouldn’t let people with fucking Down syndrome dictate abortion laws. We shouldn’t let autists speak about autism care. They’re RETARDS. You can’t have an autism diagnoses without being a retard in some way, even if you’re otherwise some sort of Alan Turing (who was a social retard) it doesn’t make you special or better than other people, quite the opposite. If people truly understood that, there’d be far less diagnoses. People would realise it’s not a “treat me/my kid like I’m/they’re special and at the same time let me get away with whatever I/they want” golden ticket.
No. 1870157
>>1870154Samefag, because people with autism are social retards, they struggle with empathy on a grander scale. They only feel empathy (if at all) in a very singular way and when they do it’s almost always deeply personal. So they will feel endless empathy for the person most like themselves but none whatsoever for the people around them. It’s the same with people with Down’s syndrome. They see it as themselves being killed every time someone makes the wise choice to screen for Down’s syndrome. They don’t even like it when people get IVF to ensure their child doesn’t get Down’s syndrome, because they see that as hitler putting them personally in a gas chamber. Their retarded brain can’t comprehend why it could be a good thing. Why it’s preventing suffering to so many and improving the quality of society in general. Autism does not make people intelligent, they are intelligent
in spite of their autism and would still be intelligent without it.
No. 1870488
>>1867441I have experience dating a BPD person and being friends with one, and their bullshit wrings you dry. Here's some great examples of why I do not associate closely with people who say they have BPD or exhibit BPD behaviors:
>34 y/o roommate gets mad at ME because I got a refund on a return and they didn't. Like shaking crying mad. >Constant annoying begging for reassurance even if you've already reassured them>Ruining an entire overnight trip because THEY didn't sleep - proceeds to complain about everything all day. >Comes home from a club at 6 AM and starts laughing and talking loudly while other friends are asleep, acts like its the other friends fault that they didn't stay up with them>excuses all their behavior with self-diagnosed autismThis particular BPD person was dumped by a therapist because the therapist couldn't take their bullshit anymore. That's therapist-speak for "you need a stronger therapy than what I can provide" but of course this was a great chance for them to victimize themselves about it.
>calls themselves a psychic and an empath when really they're a cunt that overanalyzes things and expects everyone to emotionally sooth them No. 1870499
>>1870104Holy shit yes. The lack of self-awareness is what makes it so insufferable. Them having a full-on meltdown over a milk carton pointing the wrong direction suddenly turns into "I just like things organized and clean, imagine trying to complain about that when some people are actually
abusive!" Then they're determined to act like everyone around them is a disgusting slob for refusing to spend hours steam cleaning the carpet every single day. The anxiety is so palpable and infectious too. Absolutely impossible people to live with.
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Genuine question to BPD girls. When you take on the interests of your new favorite person, do you genuinely try to like, and enjoy the interests? Do you develop new hobbies for your FP? Is it subconscious or a conscious effort? Do you resent it?(wrong thread)
No. 1871535
>>1840188kind of an old post but interesting as i have a male cousin who is around the same age as your sister and this describes him to a T. crossed eyes from only watching things 24/7, only humming/grunting sometimes (he used to do gestures he was taught not sure if he still does), have had issues like dental problems that he cannot verbalize so it gets really bad before anyone notices. on top of all the physical health issues he gets seizures too. i think it's crazy how many people who don't know someone who actually has full blown MR don't understand two things:
1) for people tinfoiling autism is not real, the quirky self diagnosing normies and chris-chan-esque spergs have basically erased people who legitimately have this condition. my bf (understandably imo bc of "autism" being trendy now) believes that all autism is fake and i had to explain to him before we saw this side of my family that this cousin is legitimately autistic and isn't just some run of the mill sperg who only talks about pokemon, like he's literally mute. i think that was his first time actually witnessing that yeah some people have a legitimate neurodevelopmental disorder and no it's not fake or brought on by parents.
2) many people choose to ignore how fucking hard it is for families who have kids like this. the family of this cousin of mine is luckily very financially well off and it seems they have collectively chosen to publicly be as positive as they can be and laugh a lot of things off. i do believe they want to put him in a home but from what i've been told the one they want him in has a ridiculously long waiting list. but there are people like my brother who take things at face value and seem to believe that "see, it's not that hard!" for them when i actually interpret it as them choosing to not mope about it in front of everyone because it technically wouldn't help them at all.
i'm very sorry this is your situation. i think the majority of people do not know a person with serious legitimate MR/autism and they don't know a lot about it at all.
>>1840242i agree with you completely. families with these kids and care centers dedicated to them are seemingly at a loss at all times. i personally hate being around them especially when they are male for obvious reasons. i don't think it's worth it. i hope my other cousin (his brother) is not forced to take care of his brother when their parents pass away, but maybe he will be in a care home by then.
No. 1871918
>>1867441The incessant attention seeking, self-pitying, jealousy, obsession, and bitterness is like nothing else. It's worse in a way than other similar conditions because BPD is mainly caused by severe trauma. I know they all whinge about muh empathyyyyyy but I swear they have no shred of empathy between the lot of them. I've had BPD 'friends' and I swear they all want to get worse. None of them ever considered therapy because they would be made to face their own bullshit. One 'friend' that particularly traumatized me always went after men in relationships to prove that she was the superior woman, had a shitload of plastic surgery then cried because she looked nothing like her previous photos (before the surgeries she'd go through those same photos and nitpick her body and face and made me and her other friends nitpick her too, 24/7). She was a massive alcoholic and had the habit of stopping drinking in order to get sick and be hospitalized when she wanted to make her moid of the month worry about her. When she got the pity she wanted she'd go right back to downing vodka every day while going to AA meetings for validation on how she was sooo sober now. She'd livestream herself taking pills and drinking in the bath sobbing about how she was always there for us and we didn't even get her a gift for her and her current moid's one-week anniversary and whatever Buzzfeed slop she read said this meant we weren't friends. This would happen maybe once or twice a month. We'd spend hours with her on the phone, she always did this until the early hours if she knew we had work or something important the next day. She literally could not handle being seen as less of a priority than a job interview or a presentation at work. She used to stalk all of her ex-moids and their exes, she had multiple separate profiles she used, and she'd have breakdowns whenever the exes were doing OK. She was so mad after one breakup (that she caused by cheating with an engaged moid) when the ex fiancee was like 'lol trash takes itself out, still going to the Caribbean!' that she drove like 5 hours to the airport to find the woman and say she was going to blow up the plane. I don't know what happened after that but she didn't gloat about it so presumably the situation did not turn out to her liking. She had a truly awful childhood but clung to it like glue and got mad when anyone mentioned their own shit to an insane extent. Sometimes she watched the news and worked herself up into a rage because of child abuse stories, she'd get mad that babies and toddlers were battered to death by their parents because they 'got justice' when their parents went to prison and SHE never got that. She got mad at Holocaust survivors who were kids in concentration camps because they 'got famous' from their 'experiences' and 'never suffered like she did because they're still here'. The empathy and compassion oozed out of her pores.
TLDR keep the fuck away from BPD chans. I learnt my lesson with this cow, I've immediately cut all contact with anyone exhibiting signs of BPD shit after her and life has never been better.
>>1870154I worked with a woman years ago whose son was autistic and extremely retarded, he was in a group home and needed multiple specialized carers to keep him from killing himself. He was completely non-verbal except for screaming and one step away from being a vegetable but he used to wrap blankets around his head all the time and try to eat dog shit and Lego pieces and tried to run into the road to follow trucks. I don't know how he's doing now but he was almost 40 when I worked with her and she was proud that he'd made so much progress, he used to be doped up 24/7 because he chimped out at his carers and bit them and shit. Apparently more than one carer had ended up in hospital because of his silly good-natured antics. She got so defensive over him despite having to put him in a group home when he was a teenager because he tried to rape her and his sister and killed their dog when he was playing with it. She called him her sweet little angel boy and always showed us photos of him that his carers sent her, she said she'd never change him because God made him special and anyone who got rid of their similarly autistic/retarded children deserved to suffer. She visited him every weekend for half an hour at the home, never in public because he used to attack her whenever he saw her and once ripped her shirt off in a restaurant while screaming, and nobody can find out that her little angel baby is anything but perfect and TOTALLY capable of leading a normal life. She got so mad when she found out that the carers had stopped taking him to museums and art galleries and restaurants because she was convinced that he needed the cultural enrichment. He'd attacked other visitors and diners and bit a waiter at least once. He could barely chew and was at danger of choking if he ate anything that wasn't cooked to exactly the right texture and mashed. I still think she was somehow trying to get him to choke and die, but she was so entrenched in delusional cope that it's hard to tell.
No. 1873460
It's not that I can't deal with NPD but I don't really see a point in doing that. It can be ok when all communication is shallow, but when it's already come to the point where you try to keep it shallow, is it really worth it? It's so annoying when they try to seem spiritual/super rational/calm and serene/excessively sweet, when you know they're not like that at all. They can be the most uptight/overly sensitive/passive aggressive/arrogant people you've ever met. Even if they acknowledge their flaws, it's just humblebragging. Even if they're smarter than being openly toxic to you, they'll give you backhanded compliments, occasionally ignore you, "forget" about your birthday. Talk behind your back. How do I know? I know what they say about their close ones or our mutual friends, acquaintances, relatives. It's especially interesting to watch when it's something in your group chat and they come into your dms to complain about the person with whom they've just had a conversation where they acted like a totally reasonable person that's sort of "above" everything, philosophical and accepting. In the dms you learn that this person is actually soooo fucking dumb and annoying. But then it's all good and they happily emotionally dump on that same person in their dms.
Their constant need for validation, attention and praise is exhausting. Do they really need to be the smartest? The most beautiful (to the degree where strangers allegedly approach them almost in awe)? Fearless? Able to do a great number of things "magnificently", no less? Feeling everything stronger than anyone else, caring about things NO ONE ELSE cares about (but meaningful ones ofc)? I swear no one talks about themselves the same way narcissists do, even if they try to be more subtle with their self-admiration.
At the same time, I think I could actually be friends with someone with NPD if they were self-aware enough, I don't mind a bit of assholery, I'm not perfect myself. But never in a romantic relationship, fuuuuuuuck thaaaaaaat. I care about a couple of people that very likely have at least pronounced NPD and BPD traits and I used to be in a very close relationships with one, I know they're not happy and I sympathize with them, but only from afar now.
I also had a friend that's definitely a narc but I don't feel bad for this fucker. He actually did something funny though
>would constantly see other people looking at me judgementally when we were together
>sometimes these people would also allegedly mumble something rude about me and he could hear it (I could never)
>it started happening when I became more confident and he knew I wouldn't take his shit anymore. random strangers just became mysteriously hostile to me for no reason lol
>sometimes he was convinced total strangers, especially a company of friends, cared about him and paid attention to what he was saying, so he would say something "scandalous" loudly and pretend it wasn't intentional
>he was sure they were looking at him when they clearly were busy with their own thing
>he was the only one who eavesdropped on them and made little comments about their conversation. idk how to explain it but it's like he interacted with these random people and they were completely clueless. it was amusing to watch
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wtf lol
No. 1878084
>>1840188There's a level of retardation that brings into question if the person is even living a dignified valuable life, or if they're just suffering and making others suffer too. I think almost everyone having to deal with that person suffers a massive amount of guilt from finding it hard to cope with it, and you of course get nothing in return from the person as they have no awareness of their surroundings or other human beings. If it was any other person keeping another person from doing anything they love, from living their life, making them rely on them 24/7 without as much as a "thank you", using up all your bank funds etc people would call it
toxic and say you need to get out of the relationship. But you can't when it's a mentally disabled person you're stuck with. Maybe there's a certain type of person who can handle it becuase they get a kick out of taking care of helpless people, but it sure ain't me.
No. 1879636
>>1878246There are aspies who literally can't attend school even as children because of their issues. I don't just mean lazy, I mean kids who will hit and scream and do anything in order to not do what is required of them and don't respond to conventional parenting techniques. Look up Pathological Demand Avoidance, it's a form of Level 1 Autism that seems normal but requires support and is hell on the
victims and their families. This is why I'm sick of these tiktok fakers, even level 1 autists will have serious issues.
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Autism.
This is an example of how autistic people and their wranglers perpetually paint themselves as victims.
This is a very good example of how the media and radlibs like to present autistic people as victims.
The autistic mind believes that just because they don't experience the world in the same way as others, that they are 'above' basic decency and norms, exempt from societies rules.
Having autism does not inoculate you from the law, and calling a person in a position of power a lezzer is a pretty outrageous act of aggression, autistic or not, and reflects that she has likely been given no boundaries at home or school. See how the language has been carefully arranged to excuse this insubordinate, spoiled girl. 'Dragged' - it's called being arrested.
Autism does not make you the victim in every situation.
No. 1898242
>>1897255>I get so annoyed with schizophrenics. I know they can't help itSame. My neighbor is undiagnosed paranoid schizophrenic that suspects everyone in our house (an apartment block) to be witches. Before that, she was obsessed with robbers and just generally was hostile and suspicious. She's not just mentally ill though, she's always been a shitty person, and the combo is infernal (which honestly doesn't make me feel bad for being annoyed but I do try to be "wise" about it). Previously she suspected only one neighbor to be a witch, now it's my mom and grandparents and few other neighbors.
>suspects neighbors (including us) leave cursed rubbish on the floor near her door>sometimes she swears loudly when she "finds" it>sets it on fire and puts it out with holy water >(sometimes there are burnt matches and water on the floor and it's a known fact she uses holy water)>told my mom's friend that my grandparents used to go to the woods not for mushrooms but for herbs>herbs they would use in black magic rituals>that's why my grandma is so ill now (not because she's almost 90 and mortal)>also told her we spill rice under her door (?)>and leave water on the floor (exactly what she does)>she "has hidden cameras everywhere and sees everything">she's convinced we can make her daughter that has diabetes feel worse with magic >the daughter is "normal" adult woman btw but supports her delusions, looks like some shared psychosis shit>the neighbor believes she has a great flat that we're jealous of so we dream of breaking into (the flat is extremely average)>threatens everyone with her ex husband that works in parliament (=has great power), turns out he worked as an electrician in a parliament building and is actually dead for months now>tells everyone that other neighbors or their acquaintances gossip about her and tell everyone she flies on the broomstick>she's the one who's always been gossiping and making shit up, everyone just tries to avoid her like the plague because she's known to make scandals and badmouth everyoneEven though some of these things are funny, she's tiresome and annoying af and I seriously hope she won't get aggressive or decide she's a holy inquisitor and burn our apartment
No. 1914591
Any disorder which has a paranoia component to it. Wether they bpd "abandonment issues" or some shitty delusions, this in particular is personal because I, as a person, absolutely hate to overexplain myself without reasons. "Where were you last night??" "Who were you with?" what are you, my mother?
Validate their paranoias and you're the asshole that makes them spiral down into some "See?? I KNEW IT!!!" bullshit and make up random scenarios, don't validate them and you're a liar. Cannot win either way. I've had too much of these little shits, since I'm apparently a BPD magnet due to my kindness but when someone starts acting an anxious parent only because they're fucked in the head, not because they're worried about me, I immediatly leave and I don't engage with people who say that they have abandonment issues because they view every personal space of yours as abandonment and I don't want to waste my energy and time doing daily reports about what I did and where I went so they feel better, work on it, you childish little bitch, grow up. One time I was out with my nigel on our anniversary and my sister called me deep in a episode (she's almost 30) screaming and crying because she couldn't come with me and why did I leave her alone at home and such. She doesn't even live with me, she was pissed at the lack of attention and viewed it as me escaping from her or something and in the end, that's what I did. Self fulfilling prophecy.
No. 1914717
>>1914654As an autist I agree. I feel like should disagree in some kind of "not all autists"-way but that's a given and whenever people hate on autists for
valid reasons I just agree because yeah those things are fucking annoying even to other autists lol
As an autist you kind of automatically have to deal with more autists than the average person, and some of these people are a nightmare. It's annoying when I'm expected to coddle a disgusting moid autist because "he's like you, you of all people should be compassionate and nice to him" and dear god do I HATE when people try to set me up to date an autist moid just because we're both on the spectrum. I had a group therapist (for autism obvs) try to set me up with the only male around my age (most were older adults and quite chill) because that guy was sooo lonely and sad and needed a girlfriend and I was… female. I agreed to befriend the guy even though he seemed like the least nice/interesting person in the room and guess what - he ended up being a shitty troon enby who stalked me and my family for a year when it turned out I'm an evil
terf. I will never forgive the therapist for forcing an actual dangerous male into my life when she knew I was vulnerable.
No. 1916211
>>1914994>they are so lacking in empathy that they have no idea what level of empathy a typical person actually has.This has SOME truth in it, but isn't actually true. While most people who claim to be overly empathic actually aren't (and i swear most of them aren't even real autists…) there is a true subset of autists (mainly female) who ARE overly empathic, but not in the way the "fakers" claim they are. They typically do not even know they are "overly" empathic because they - like you said - don't know it's not normal compared to a normal person. They're incredibly gullible and easy for people (men) to take advantage of because they can't tell when they're being lied to. I have personally never met anyone like this who is high-functioning, and I don't wanna shill the idea that all autists are "like children" but this subset really do have a childs level of understanding of a lot of social things.
Like if you tell a child dropping their favorite teddy bear on the ground hurts the teddy they'll cry and feel awful for the teddy, even though us adults know an object doesn't have feelings so it's fine. They end up assigning strong feelings where they shouldn't, because their autism doesn't know the appropriate level of empathy to assign so puts it at "max level" when it shouldn't.
No. 1934028
>>1614974The official clinical answer? Yes, BPD's can feel genuine love and emotion, just not towards people. They have a psychopathic persona that can easily overpower their ego structure the second you, as a real person, interfere with the you that they've constructed in their heads by simply … well, not acting in exactly the way they think you should. Think of Gollum from lord of the rings. He's pretty much what being a borderline is like; they have two completely distinctive personalities that don't come into contact within their psyche.
So, while they may love you one moment, that love isn't for you … it's for how you make the borderline feel. Their love is directed at the fact that when they're around you, and you're expending energy keeping them calm, they feel at peace and is if they can function. And indeed, they can function pretty well when someone is parenting them. When you fail to protect them from their own emotional instability is when the psychopathic personality comes out, and it's usually modeled after their mother.
The reason borderlines have this weird behavior is because their parents, again the mother in 99.99% of cases, parentified them. Which means the mother made the child into her parent by presenting them with adult responsibilities. As a consequence, BPD's are desperate for a parental figure to help them emotionally mature. It's why they go completely mental if you act like anything other than a doting mother.
No. 1934100
>>1934028so it's basically retarded narcissism lol like spoiled children
>"Act like I want!! Do as I want!! Act right so I can feel safe!! Be the actor in my little mental theatre!! Or I'm gonna kms!!!"Just do it lol
No. 1934110
>>1934100in my experience it was not 'i'll kms', it was 'i will wreck
your shit'. externalized threats vs. internalized, i suppose.
No. 1934147
>>1934123
ayrt and sure, I know it's on some deeply fucked level and I was in a relationship with a BPD moid for 10 years.
I felt like a parent, I felt in charge of his emotions, constantly and that made me realize that I never want to be a mother and I know, I know that babies literally die without attention, but they are babies. They don't have the tools to be independent. BPD people can. They can go to therapy. They can learn self soothing techniques. They can learn to get up of bed and wash their crusty ass. They can learn that people are their own person. They CAN. If they refuse, it's not my business.
I've endured cheating accusation when I went out for groceries, I've endured being called cold when I was tired and needed some alone time (I think I'm on the spectrum on some degree and I think that that was a playing factor in the whole relationship, will talk about that later), I've endured being called a bitch when I didn't want to argue at fucking night when I was the only one working in the house and needed rest. I've endured abuse and being molested while I was sleeping because "Well I have my needs and you always say no!". I've endured anything. Now I don't and I won't and I can't anymore.
As I said, I'm probably on the spectrum, not yet diagnosed but I want to investigate this shit and I realized something:
1. What really made me go crazy was his constant beating around bushes. I consider myself pretty understanding, like I rarely judge people and if I do it's not personal, but more like a moral thing, for ex. I heavily dislike kinky people but as long they don't touch me/manipulate others into sex is fine like go fetch your stds but keep that shit away from me and he KNEW. He claimed to know me better than anyone else and he constantly gave me mixed signals. Something was wrong? Instead of talking, he wanted me to read his mind. I'm pretty straight forward, like if you say shit like "it's nothing." then it's nothing, full stop. When I said "okay" at his "it's nothing", he went full retarded meltdown saying that I was a cold piece of shit, rotten narc to the core while I literally asked 2 seconds prior if he was okay.
2. I'm very sensitive to stimuli, mostly sounds and touch. I don't like loud noises, I don't like to be touched. He constantly played videogame music and played his synth keyboard, when I asked to stop for 1-2 hours (the time I needed for a nap/unwind), again, another rage fit. How dare I, being so inconsiderate! And of course, when I'm in that sensory overload, touching felt painful to me.
"Omg nona, why won't you cuddle me?? Am I dirty? You don't like me anymore?"
"No moid I need some time alone because I came back from a very stressful shift (retail)"
"Then you don't like being with me??"
That was a whole new problem that he made up. Tiring.
3. I ended up in therapy due to a heavy loss in my family and started having panic attacks. He would trigger them on purpose.
"Well, this means you can control them, right?? Why even go to therapy if you can control them?"
When I asked him to also go, because on top of his narcissism there was a depressive component where he would leave rotting food in the kitchen sink and ofc I had to clean it like his mother, he cried and screamed to the point I was afraid of my life that "Well! How do you dare say that I'm crazy!!"
All of these mixed signals really fucked up my brain. Blogposting aside, I'm not trying to armchair but if an almost 30 y/o person can be so fucking self centered then it's totally a narc component that I refuse to justify. I loved him a lot and right now if he killed himself, I wouldn't care, not the edgy "i do not care" but it would be like hearing about a stranger dying. Not my problem, it's not like he had a personality to begin with but he played a lot on my anxiety. Oh, how many threats of suicide, if only they were true….
Right now I'm trying to heal but I hate that now I can't seem to love and any love I receive I view it as suspicious because "what if that person is being nice to me to trap me?"
As I said before, as long I'm not involved I do not care, but now I care about myself. These people need to be removed from society because I'm not the first and won't be the last and me being a victim of this type of shit is more than enough.
No. 1934642
>>1934348Obviously that anon is either describing the most severe cases, or are pulling facts from their ass.
I would like to remind anons that even though someone writes huge text walls with fancy words does not mean they are right or educated. There have been 0 sources to all these tall claims, other than a vague ”an education on the subject” and a claim Youtube is basically the same as formal education. An actual professional on the subject could show peer reviewed journals to back up all the claims, or at least
some of them.
No. 1934959
>>1934943No, a mod/janny deleted them.
Why would I delete my own posts lmao?
>You showed your insecurities in ways I don't think you meant to. You weren't being censored. It's not about censorship at all. No one was trying to shut you up.Uhh, yeah, sure, you got me. I'm sorry for losing my temper and becoming super insecure. You're right. I need to take a long look at myself.
Thank you.
(moid) No. 1934963
>>1934959That's fair– I thought it was a strange move, so that makes sense to me.
Genuinely,all the best to you
No. 1936052
>>1935030I feel that yes, autism is harder to dx in women because all the studies have been done to moids, but women tend to claim autism to avoid the BPD stigma. The autism label lets them be obsessed with something/someone and have mental breakdows without being seen as crazy, just a little spicy in the head. I've yet too see a woman who claims autism that is very picky with food, has a neuro disability like dyslexia, dyxpraxia, dyscalculia, is very sensitive to sounds and stimuli (most of them claim to be sensitive to sounds when in reality it's shit like explosions, alarms, nails on chalkboard type of shit, stuff that annoyes everyone) and has problems fucking socializing. These women that claim to be autistic have a shitton of friends and I'm not saying that autistic people don't have friends but it's really hard to connect with them unless you have some kind of autistic friend group which is statistically impossible. I feel that most of the times, these diagnoses gets mixed up a lot, like I'm pretty sure that half of autistic dx men are just bpd men that didn't go full retard fit on their therapists.
No. 1937122
>>1936495I think it doesn't help that autism is such so vague as a diagnosis that it's easy for everyone to claim it if they don't identify as normies. We should stop to accept that everything is a "spectrum" so people who want to feel special claim their space in a restricted community, like being a troon, being autistic is not properly define and that brings people with just one symptom that conveniently overlaps with other shit to claim to be in that community.
Afaik, autism is defined by narrow interests, trouble socializing, neurodevelopmental disorders, sensitivity to stimuli, lack or limited empathy (narc or depressive style), flat expressions, trouble in self expression, anxiety and frustration (due to people not understanding how autists work) and stunted maturity. Not intelligence, maturity.
Basically what spicy normies and people that do not want accountability do is:
>Omg I like anime and it's my main hobby, I'm also an introvert so I'm autistic!While ignoring everything else like mood dysruption, narc tendencies etc etc.
The more people insist and stuff is a spectrum meaning that you don't full need all the symptoms, the more people tend to identify with whichever stuff is trendy. Even if the existence of DID is debatable, take a look on how many people claim it just because they have an internal monologue and are traumatized (endo system also claim that you don't NEED trauma, despite being the very first symptom) which is something that like 90% of the people are. The only people who claim "bad" conditions such as schizophrenia, psychosis, suicidal shit, addiction etc are internet munchies, the same type that fakes cancer, and is often comorbid with an attenion seeking component (look out Tuna Slater for example).
I think that in a few years for now there will be studies on how the internet worsened the attention seeking patterns of some people and filled the psych wards with them, with no real cause underneath other than wanting to feel special and unique due to the hyper individualism shit that we are witnessing.
No. 1937417
>>1936052Well, autism actually does have very different symptoms between men and women.
Female aggression is self-directed whereas male aggression is other directed.
>The autism label lets them be obsessed with something/someone and have mental breakdows without being seen as crazy, just a little spicy in the head.I mean, I would disagree. Autistic men are virtually incapable of reproducing. Unless you're willing to discount the opinions of women entirely. Little bit sexist, honestly, that you think only male opinions matter.
No. 1937452
>>1937417>Little bit sexist, honestly, that you think only male opinions matterWhere did you cherry pick that? My point was that the majority of women (tifs included of course) that claim autism online, the ones that are verbal about it, most likely don't have it and claim autism only to avoid personality disorder stigma. They read the definition of autism online, see that includes "meltdowns" (bpd splits) "special interest" (bpd personality of the month) and "trouble socializing" (bpd favourite person push pull shitnamics) and "anxiety". They only pick the overt traits and not stuff like the actual neurodevelopmental disorder. You can see the autism/bpd in males because they have no shame in acting out in public and overall being piece of shit (I wonder what's the stalking ratio in between men and women) but in female it's much harder and since they're afraid to be seen as instable and get treated for bpd, they brainrot themselves on tiktok claiming autism and saying "Well, that's not an illness! Not a disorder! Just what I am!".
And that's the fault of people not studying effectively autism in women.
Dunno where did you get the whole "Then only moid opinions are relevant??"
Waffles and pancakes, nona…
No. 1941731
>>1940539samefag but I notice over half those men aren't even mentally ill or delayed, they're just moids. A man could grope and bite a woman and underage twitter users would defend him saying "aww but he's probably just autistic and stims/expresses affection like that" even if the
victim called the police or screamed to stop. If an autistic woman did the same thing and out of "affection", she'd be crucified in a mental institution.
No. 1942658
>>1942328I absolutely agree. I understand not everyone with PTSD is like that, but my ex was. She was also
abusive to me and started a smear campaign against me for a whole entire month to the extent where I had to change my number due to her brother harassing me. Also a former friend of hers had to cut her off due to her
toxic behavior. She even acted like this before she was friends with somebody with BPD whom I blocked her on everything as well.
No. 1942723
>>1942328They're the same thing most of the time. The field of psychology just isn't ready to admit that it's been diagnosing female child abuse
victims with untreatable personality disorders all this time.
No. 1942774
>>1942328I think both groups overlap with symptoms, but it like walking on eggshells for both.
>>1942658I'm so sorry you were abused like that. No amount of trauma excuses shitty behaviour.
No. 1942837
>>1942774Thank you for your kind words anon. Yeah how she smeared me was I did a thing called reactive abuse. I know what I did was wrongs but for some reason, my ex always likes to play the
victim. I also knew others like that years ago. For them, it's always somebody else's fault but never ever their fault.
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Can't stand seeing people with gnarly self harm uncovered, specially if it's fresh, it seems so self centered "look at me" and uncaring towards everyone around them, you know you're making others uncomfortable and someone in the room might be sensitive to gore, just wear a goddamn shirt, most places are air conditioned anyway.
>boo hoo do i have to wear pants now because of something i did in the past?? im all better now !!
yes its called being mindful of others and living with the consequences of your actions
>w-what about burn victims or people with surgical scars!!
If you ever had surgery you'll know doctors advise you to keep it covered if you go out because of photosensitivity, hygiene and healing, and neither burn scars nor surgical scars look like self harm because cutters usually have the terrible habit of poking at their cuts which makes them looks distinctively worse and unhealed.
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>>1945193>when it's summertimemost places have air conditioning, i doubt your average bpdchan is working as a garderner or farmer and you won't die wearing linens instead of booty shorts
>they have to feel comfortable tooyou're not owed comfort by making everyone else around you uncomfortable and making yourself the center of attention, you're being just as disruptive as weird troons wearing pigtails in public
No. 1945328
>>1945305just saying you would if you weren't so selfish and self centered
>>1945315I don't care if they're faded and not that visible but I went to uni with someone that had healed but very vividly red scars all over her arms and legs and it made one my friends who had a relative die in a car crash at the time so uncomfortable that we had to sit all the way on the other side of class.
>>1945320I used to have the same general opinion but i had the situation above happen and it dawned onto me how insensitive it is towards people who may have experienced situations that involve gashes, blood etc that were not self-inflicted, you'd usually assume the regular ol' first world is gonna be pretty safe from exposed to stuff like that and then boom some terminally online psycho ruins your day
No. 1945345
>>1945328you are the selfish, self-centered and nosy bitch here. Just don't go out of your way nosying and staring at strangers, focus on your own life because you sound like an unhinged freak.
Also
>thinking that others have to cater to your sensibilities No. 1945453
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Absolutely can't stand autism. Women with autism seem to fair better than men when it comes to interacting with them. But I can't stand the utter inability to get the most basic shit.
The worst cases sit there and do obnoxious bullshit after obnoxious bullshit and expect the whole picrel to be REAL but in reality any and everyone without autism wants these fucking spiders on society to fucking die, because compensating for their shortcomings is a drain on an already stressful life.
At least the ones irl have to be damned with masking so it's less obnoxious. Can still tell when something's off, but the constant eyes on them seems to reel them in. Online is a whole different story and they think it's cute. Fuck em.
nb4 'oooh they can't help' oh my god I don't care. Stay away from me if you have that affliction; I want nothing to do with trying to help handhold you through social interaction. Go bother someone else with your retardation. Shit.
I have too many autistic friends.
No. 1946461
>>1945568>>1945763Teehee, ha ha. It starts with me being nice, and feeling sorry for these poor bastards.
I'm retarded, definitely, but it ain't autism.
No. 1947052
>>1945143i have a lot of self harm scars myself and you are completely right, i've been saying it for years. it's truly just attention seeking and especially if you're around teenagers or older children a lot you are straight up influencing them to cut themselves. no one who parades their tumblrina uwu battle scars around in public would admit this though because they all have bpd and see themselves as some heroic survivor figure that everyone should pity and even admire, because as bippies they still expect their self destructive behaviour to be rewarded somehow and become enraged if people refuse to reward them with asspats or god forbid suggest they stop being
toxic retards. a lot of the replies you got for this post proves that they see themselves as the malala of mental illness and that they can't take responsibility for anything kek
No. 1947063
>>1945143Scarred nona here, had a very rough time growing up but if there's some thing I learned from being a True CutterTM is the immense shame and regret you feel right after. I cut for years, you wouldn't even tell because you don't want people to find out and to explain. That's one of the main things. I cut for years in hidden spots/spots that get almost always covered (near my ankle and on the side of the upper tight, it can be easily be covered with high waisted and swimming miniskirts) and when I'm around people with visible scars I feel this big disgust, I can't really explain how and why. I don't feel disgust for the scars, that would make me a hypocrite but I feel disgusted by their carelessness and attention seeking behaviour. Bippies know, and if they don't they're stupid as shit, that scars will stay there so they choose the best, most open spot because they romanticize it and want people to look at them. Cut your wrists? Arms? Attention seeking. That's it. Cosplay behaviour.
>>1945193Oh please, self harmers know that they have to sacrifice comfort. It's been 15 years since I wore shorts and I live in south europe, I'm fine. That's why "we" choose hidden spots, anyone who cuts in places that almost always exposed are attention seeking, full stop. Your comfort stops when the other's comfort is at risk, when we are out to eat/bus/anything mundane, I don't want to see your gross scars. People judge any day by appearance and I will too. Self harmers feels safe in long clothing because their exposed skin makes them aware of the scars. They burn, the skill pulls, sweats…there's no good side of exposing scars unless you want people to notice them.
As someone who used to panic in the bathroom with baby oil to make the scar heal better because there were times that I went too far and didn't want to be seen as crazy by friends and family, I shame people with visible cuts and purposely bad healed scars. They deserve it, they're on the same level as addicts who post xanax pills or some shit.
>"B-but they don't have to feel shame!"It's part of the behaviour, stop cosplaying disorders. Anything performative is shit anyway.
>"What about surgery scars/burns/incidents"They don't look the same, self harm scars are usually patternish and in one, specific, handy place. Right handed people cut on their left side and viceversa. it's a choice? Shame.
You choose to cut and now are bitching about scars? Stop or save to remove them, cover up.
You teeth fell for drugs? Shame. Choice.
Lung cancer due to smoking? Shame. Choice.
Bald spots due to trico? Shame. Choice.
No. 1947073
>>1947065Where did I say that I feel shame? I don't feel shame, I just know that people, like I do, don't want to see scars and I know that scars, esp. visible, red, scabby ones attract attention. I just want to live my life without people staring at me and asking me about my past choices, if you deny that shit you're either delusional or a histrionic person who will do anything for a crumble of attention. Pathetic.
Stop thinking that shit doesn't have consequences and your appearance isn't your business card to the world. Learn how what disorders imply before cosplaying them and then crying about m-muh scars!
People are gonna ask how you got them. People are gonna ask what did you do. People are gonna wonder what the hell you went through. If you are not ready for this, you might reconsider if that attention seeking behaviour is worth it, because no one is gonna come up to you like a prince charming, kissing your bumpy wrist like a shitty fanfiction and tell you "It's okay princess uwu You won't need to do this anymore!!". No one is gonna see your scars and say "Ohh, poor tormented soul! I can fix her!". No. People will think that you're gross. It's normal, we're hardwired against wounds but we can also tell apart accidental burn scars from self inflicted ones. If I'm near someone with a red stripy arm I'm gonna nope the fuck out because I just know that they're the type of person to use that shit against me. They're the ones that say "look what you made me doo bwaaahh!!"
Annoying.
No. 1947074
>>1947063Gonna wear singlets this summer just for you
nonnie xoxo
No. 1947083
>>1947081Is "your friend" actively self harming? If so, why aren't you helping her instead of validating her behaviour? Why are you letting her do that shit to herself? Why are you going "omg yes queen show your cut arms!!!"?
Are you friend's scars old, healed? Is "she" healed? Cool, then don't address it. It can cause relapse. Don't talk about it. Act like they're not even there.
>Btw there are multiple anons disagreeing with you.Disagreeing with what, talking about what something really implies? It's not like you have to agree, self harm behaviour is like this, period. Actual self harming, not attention seeking bpd shit. Also, like I care. You disagreeing with me won't make what I wrote less true.
No. 1947086
>>1947083>"she"…are you calling her a tranny for being comfortable with herself, wtf? As I said those scars are from when she was a teenager, making them over a decade old, and I did not know her then.
>Act like they're not even there.That's exactly what I am doing and every normal person should do
No. 1947092
>>1947086Nah nonna, I wrote "she" like that because why are you talking about a supposed "friend" lol, this sounds like "Uhmmm asking for a friend" typa shit.
>That's exactly what I am doing and every normal person should doAnd then why the fuck are you replying, we're talking about people who actively do and then make it everyone else's problem. The post you replied to was talking about "esp. fresh scars", why can't you read holy cow, I only talked about people who don't want to break the cycle and then cry about the consequences. I bet that here there are also bpd nonnas who recovered and now can see how bad their behaviour was and can clock it from a mile away, I bet that in this thread there are recovered depressed people who don't want to engage with other depressed people anymore.
If someone walks around with bloody scars either they're very mentally ill to the point they're not aware of themselves (like people who don't wash themselves) or attention seeking and that's a mere fact. Old scars don't mean shit if the person isn't in that place anymore, chill.
No. 1947100
>>1947092>this sounds like "Uhmmm asking for a friend" typa shit.No, some people genuinely care about their friends
>The post you replied to was talking about "esp. fresh scars""Especially" does not mean "only". Even long since healed scars can be noticeable if the wounds were deep enough. I've seen people stare at her which makes me angry, and a person suffering from similar issues not having any compassion boggles my mind.
No. 1947109
>>1947100>I've seen people stare at her which makes me angry, and a person suffering from similar issues not having any compassion boggles my mind.That shit is gonna always happen. Always. As I said you either stop caring or cover that shit up. I made the example about myself because since
I have trouble going out and I want less shit as possible,
for me covering them up is easier because
I notice that people stare and I don't want to deal with that but can't you really blame them? Anything unusual stands out so you either have those two options or stay at home. Complaining won't change shit. People aren't gonna ask your friend the story of her life so they can't be less judgy, people see you once in their life time, think shit like "Weird/gross" and then hop off the bus and their day goes on. If that stuff hurts you, you gotta find some solution, because it's gonna always happen. People will judge your choices, always has been, always will be. No one thinks that cuts are beautiful and you have to accept that.
No. 1947128
>>1947115old cuts, if taken seriously, usually heal in white stripes and are almost unnoticeable on pale people so that's not a problem, I don't have perfect vision myself so I doubt that that nona was talking about them. The ones who heal horribly are on people that refuse to take care of themselves and will continue to scar and pick that spot over and over and before getting to a point of no return/showing them off fresh for attention and often people notice. That's also why I said that I cut for 15 years but people can't tell,
I know they're there and that's the main component of the true disorder.
Red cuts are usually fresh or healing and being around someone who actively self harms and doesn't see a problem with it is draining. Being around someone who walks around with a new cut everyday is draining. Being around someone who shows off her scars is draining and in cases of old scars, saying shit like "Look what I did in my past teehee" is top narc behaviour.
I trust more someone who covers them up/doesn't address them because it's symbolic for moving on but if someone walks around with a bloody zebra on their limbs it's not a good catch tbh, because it's usually people who hold themselves hostages and use their body to manipulate people.
No. 1947148
>>1947073>People are gonna ask how you got them. People are gonna ask what did you do. People are gonna wonder what the hell you went through. If you are not ready for this, you might reconsider if that attention seeking behaviour is worth itbippies want and expect people to ask them about their self harm and twauma because they think life is a netflix show starring them as the troubled MC who everyone cares about for no reason. and if you don't ask them they will tell you anyway kek. they have no regard for others, they just want to sperg about their life and receive oohs and awws from everyone around them at all times.
also, self inflicted self harm scars are not at all comparable to scars from fires, accidents, shootings etc. impressionable teens can see self harm and want to replicate it because it's a part of an emo image that attracts troubled teens, kids, whatever. every cutter, former or recovered, only started doing it because they were at some point exposed to it through media, real life or the internet. literally no one gets the idea to cut themselves without seeing it somewhere else first. this is why it's unethical to show off your self harm, at least in public spaces.
people hate to admit being
victims of social contagions, just like trannies who insist they knew they were trannies since the day they were born and didn't just troon out because they fell for a fucked up trend on tumblr. self harm cows do the exact same shit and want to drag others down with them by shoving their mental illness in people's faces and calling it ~destigmatizing~
No. 1947157
>>1947148ayrt and what people fail to understand is that humans are social animals. Humans need to feel to be part of something so claiming that most self harmers do it out of attention/being part of a group is totally correct, it's the hyperindividualism paradox: you want to be special so much that you end up imitating others. You want to be unique so much that you start to look for that uniqueness in others.
What brings others attention, will bring you attention and that's why people do shit.
It's been that way with anorexia, did, troonism, anything.
I admit that I started cutting because I saw that that was possible, there was a possible way to get a fast pain response from my body without banging my head on the wall and breaking my wrists on tables. "If I cut, I'll still feel in control of what I do with my body but the blood will come out quicker."
I think that right now I feel disgust because I know how that feels like and how awful that is. When I talk about this, esp. when I used to be in a self harm "support" group, usually youngings told me
>"Well, people don't have to suffer like you!! "Then why the fuck are you cutting? It's not cute, people cut themselves to shift their pain source, not to give themselves pain and then acting surprised when that shit hurts, that's why anyone complaining about their self harm and consequences is a major red flag.
"I was stupid, time to move on, people will notice, fuck them." that's the correct way. Anyone who can't self reflect still needs some ward time and surely doesn't need access to the internet to engage with their shitty behaviour.
No. 1947234
>>1947052Im scarred, I don't have bpd, I don't think myself as an hero or brave for surviving a mental illness, I don't want asspats as rewards.I don't talk at all about my scars and my mental state. I just want to live my life quietly in my corner of the world. Wear the clothes that I like and not define my life and personality around bad shit that happened years ago (btw I already have deal with the responsabilities and still dealing with the shame and regret). It's that so difficult to understand?
>>1947063I have self harm scars in visible places because I wanted to be disgusting to scrotes and hated my femenine body due to sexual abuse. I don't think its fair that now when I made peace with my body I have to cover up because some people can't stay in their own biz.
>>1947073People who ask are really rude and should learn manners. It's not my problem they weren't educated and I don't own them an explanation of my fucking body.
>>1947128I have a healed cut with stitches and is very noticeable and other keloid scars. Still not gonna cover and limit my life due to past errors.
No. 1947263
>>1947234>People who ask are really rude and should learn manners. It's not my problem they weren't educated and I don't own them an explanation of my fucking body.This is such black and white thinking, are you sure you haven't bpd? You can't see the nuance. Kids will ask, not because they're rude, but because they kids and they don't know shit. Old people will ask, because they're worried and maybe they will think that you're being abused. People will stare. People. Will. Stare. You don't have much other options aside stop completely caring (and thus stop complaining here) or cover.
>>1947257>infantilizing a conditionA condition that by definition revolves around being emotionally stunted as an infant stage where people who have it don't even understand basic object permanence? tf
Bippies are bippies, like retards are retards.
(baiting) No. 1947267
>>1947263>This is such black and white thinking, are you sure you haven't bpd?NTA but it says a lot about you when you reply to someone with "are you sure you don't have the modern day equivalent of hysteria"
>Bippies are bippiesThat's not what it is called in the DSM-5. Opinion discarded.
(infighting) No. 1947277
>>1942690My ex was like this. Went to his house on weekends on friday night and when I left on sunday morning, he would send me a wall of text listing all the bad shit I did and that pissed him off. I let it go once or twice because I thought he was burnt out for work but in reality he was a coward with a weird little prince complex, when I told him that it wasn't like that (he accused me of purposely leaving hair in his bathroom so he could waste time - my "punishment" for him for being too work obsessed…like he made up an entire scenario meanwhile my hair was falling because its long and breaks out a lot in windy days) he would throw an autistic fit via phone, blowing it up with notifs. One day I just stopped replying. Don't care if that
triggered his ghosting and abandonment fear, in my country there's this old saying that goes "when you wash a donkey's head, you are wasting water and soap." so yeah fuck off. Sometimes I wonder how male bpds would survive if they lived completely alone, they would scream at the mirror.
No. 1947285
>>1947282Not the same thing, you can't control your acne, where it will show and how bad will be. Horrible example. You can control your self harm.
>"No I can't!"Who's using the knives and choosing to self harm? Come on.
No. 1947302
>>1947288>>1947294yes, no one can force you to take other people into consideration, that doesn't mean you should be an attentionwhore anyway. also if you're displaying your cutting scars in public you don't have any shame in the first place, so you can stop strawmanning about being "shamed" and "forced" to cover up and comparing yourselves to oppressed muslim women in niqabs. the
victim complex is real.
No. 1947306
>>1947291>Stop caring about what strangers do and think.Okay that's fair. That's something I can get behind on. But then, why are you and
>>1947302 shitting on people who don't care to cover? They clearly don't care about what strangers think, like you suggested.
No. 1947308
>>1947302Covert BPD behavior ass post. Get checked, maybe you're the one who wants attention
nonny.
No. 1947320
>>1947302Why do people who happen to have scars have to think what
might get some rando
triggered. Look away if it bothers you.
No. 1947336
>>1947306why are you replying to different anons saying different things? i am not at all suggesting people with self harm scars should stop caring, on the contrary i think it's selfish to show your scars because it can and does influence people to do the same, something every cutter is aware of since none of them started cutting until they were exposed to it from some outside source.
cutters should admit to it being a dangerous social contagion and take personal responsibility by not showing their scars around randoms, especially where susceptible teens and kids can see them. for example, teachers shouldn't be allowed to show their self harm scars in schools. and no matter how you twist it, displaying self harm scars is asking for attention, and like other anons have already stated, you cannot expect people to not clock you as a bpdfag or demand they simply ignore or overlook evidence of severe mental illness when you're actively presenting it to them.
No. 1949241
>>1947302You
triggered the self hating bpdchans itt
No. 1949296
>>1949265some people like having stuff on others so they can manipulate their mood. once a manipulative person learns your
triggers they will use it everytime to punish you. I've seen with BPD but also with normies who are simply manipulative (remember girls being manipulative doesn't mean someone is cluster B!!)
No. 1951754
Anyone here fed up with the "it comes from trauma" narrative? When people vent about their experiences with mentally ill people, there's always some shitty whiteknight that says "Itcomes from trauma!!"
yes, and? Or better, since your shit comes from trauma, why are you giving it to others? You should know how shitty that is, right?
"Abusers were often abused as children!" "Bullies are often mistreated at home!" and? Why do they make it everyone else's problem?
Without a circular definition, why should I justify their behaviour?
When my ex moid kept me up at night when I was working and he was unemployed, should I let it go because trauma?
When he threatened suicide to manipulate me, everything was good because poor thing, he was traumatized?
When he overspent MY savings for both of us, it was his trauma?
When he told me I was useless despite caring and providing for him and keeping him off the streets, was his poor traumatized child speaking?
I do not fucking care if you have BPD or any other disorder, if you see that everyone leaves you, YOU are the problem.
Since I left him, I started to sleep better. Sleep better for fuck's sake! I don't have to check if he's breathing in the morning (he used to get up and overdose on MY meds, I had to put locks in my own house), I don't have to make sure I give him a good night kiss, I can stay up late to do my own shit like crocheting or drawing after work without him crying around my house, I can call my friends and chill with them at night, I can take long baths. A 25 year old baby. Have trauma? You know you have trauma, to the point you use it against other people when they call out your shit? Cope and go to therapy, your illfitting life is only yours.
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>>1950114Picrel I saw today, made me laugh. How is this NPD or even manipulation? Telling people things they want to hear to comfort them is just basic fucking empathy and social scenarios, how chronically online are these people.
No. 1951962
>>1951953Every time I see one of these posts I just want to scream. You are not fucking NPD, you're just a lonely, possibly autistic teenager who struggles to make friends and have convinced yourself you're narcissistic rather than found new friends. You're not manipulative, you just talk to people and the concept is so new to you since you spent most of your life in your room.
Ask any of these people if they would actually do NPD things, like scream and rage at anyone in sight for the slightest perceived attack, sabotage others' successes, financially, physically, sexually abuse? They don't even leave their rooms. There's a reason psychiatrists would never diagnose you with NPD at your age and never 10 years later because by then you'd have grown out of that edgy phase.
No. 1952605
>>1951953Kek Idk but this person does seem pretty annoying and delusional and I wouldn't be surprised if they do actually have pronounced narcissistic traits - just not in the way they think/want to demonstrate. At least, this person wants to feel special, and in this case it's a "self-aware narcissist" that's actually goooooood, not a typical
toxic piece of shit. If he/she makes such a big deal out of being basic-level nice and caring, I can only imagine how it's manifested in reality. Think of self-proclaimed empaths. It doesn't seem like the same thing but something very close. I imagine they
know what you need and they deliberately make you know they take it into consideration. They also seem like an annoying overly "rational" condescending type that might use therapy speak. Plus the example of manipulation is indeed funny but I automatically don't trust anyone who justifies manipulative behavior. Or, more precisely, you should trust the part where one confesses they're manipulative and ignore the part where they try to whitewash it and blur the lines, claiming
everyone does it. Like ok, I know now that you at least want to think you can influence people and that you're in control or something and it says a lot, even if your manipulations are childish and obvious.
No. 1952955
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Moids need to be put down
No. 1955143
>>1952746>t. seething attentionwhorePeople gawk and stare at burn
victims too and may even find their appearance horrifying, the difference is that they are
VICTIMS and deserve sympathy. Meanwhile self harmers mutilate themselves deliberately to get pity points, get mad when people don’t want to see it, and have to make absolutely everything about them in a thread dedicated to talking about mental illness you hate. Deranged behavior.
No. 1955677
>>1955220Why don't you learn to read? Aircons where
>>1955477Both. BPDs do it because they want sympathy points e.g. accusing you of abusing them when it was the opposite. NPDs do it because they just want to be superior and kick you to the dirt.
No. 1955848
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Six months ago I moved in with my best friend who recently got a bpd diagnosis. It's supposed to be 'quiet' bpd and I guess it kind of is because she's not prone to tantrums and most of her impulsive self destructive decisions are easy to miss at first (like giving up her antipsychotics, starving herself one week just to binge on candy the next, etc) but I'm so tired already. We're the same age but I feel like I'm raising a preteen daughter. She's obsessed with a professor at out university, he's her fp and she frequently has meltdowns because of him. I've had to intervene many times and each time she agreed she needed to stop obsessing about him but she never follows through and starts talking about how hot he is, staring at his pictures for hours and trying to get his attention literally the next day. Her meltdowns are so extreme she ceases to function, she starts crying in public unable to speak for up to two hours sometimes and each time I'm so scared she's going to do something to herself because she has a history of suicide attempts and self harm.
Aside from bpd she has mild schizophrenia and often decides to stop taking her meds and I feel so controlling for constantly making sure she's being responsible and not going cold turkey on a whim. Oh and cooking for both of us and asking her if she's eaten anything all the time because if I don't she doesn't eat anything and faints in public. She almost fell face first onto concrete last time it happened and if it weren't for a moid friend I wouldn't have been able to catch her. This is genuinely so stressful. I feel like an asshole control freak because I keep scolding her for dumb shit she does like the starvation thing. And I feel like she's encouraged it because she's a very codependent person and asks me for help with every meaningless decision she makes (she hides the serious things that I mentioned). I feel like a bitch because I can come across as harsh when talking to her about those things but when I don't it's like she's on her way to the psych ward with all the irresponsible shit she does. She also revealed that she used to split on me very often before we moved in and that she dropped me (there was a time when she ghosted me for a few months but then came back and apologized) because she thought I was plotting against her because at the time I discouraged her from seeing a guy who turned out to be an asshole, so I can't even trust her as a friend to be there for me… Before we moved in I wouldn't have suspected she had bpd but now it's very obvious to me and I don't want to cut her off because of it, she's still important to me, but I kind of wish I had a different roommate sometimes.
No. 1956558
>>1955771he is the final boss of negging
>>1955848yeah, your friend sucks. cool pic
No. 1957617
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Parents who call their children "manipulative" and accuse them of being the mentally ill ones.
No. 1968980
>>1959761many cases of OCD and severe phobias are quite literally the result of curling and sheltered first world upbringing. if you even have the possibility to avoid things like spiders, germs, other people etc, to the point where the avoidance creates a severe phobia, you're pretty much guaranteed to be a sheltered NEET who never had to face enough challenges, so your mind just conjured up their own problems kek. same with ARFID, they might as well just call it chicken nuggies ipad kid disorder (CNIPKD?).
i have a close friend with really bad OCD and emetophobia and after dealing with her bullshit for too long i've completely lost sympathy for anyone with these illnesses. they're some of the most selfish, demanding and entitled people ever and being close to them requires you to always submit to their demands and have every single interaction revolve around them and their problems at all times. and if you don't enable their fears and phobias (which is the right thing to do since reassurance and other enabling behaviors literally hurts them and makes it even worse) they will despise you and act like you've wronged them. just generally exhausting people who drain the life force from their friends and families, much like bippies but in different ways. this goes for some specific types of OCD though, i know there's a lot of different variants and a lot of them are probably not as annoying.
No. 1969031
>>1968999>>1969004>>1969021learn to read before replying.
many cases, not every single one, and as i said, there are a lot of causes. an overly sheltered upbringing is a well known one, regardless of what you might personally think and regardless of there being tons of other possible causes. what's so hard to understand?
i don't see a lot of bangladeshis or liberians getting tube fed cause they psychologically can't handle the texture of anything other than a french fry. a problem like that only develops in privileged environments. believing otherwise is delusional and factually wrong.
No. 1969083
>>1969031watch out for the
triggered nonnies trying to cope.
It's true. a lot of eating "disorders" and personality disorders are the product of either very sheltered lives.
How come you don't see arfid or anorexia in 3rd world countries but you see shit like autism and schizophrenia?
"They don't have much food anyway!"
So it's about the access to food, not a mental illness. It's purely an enviromental fact.
No shit you don't see addicts in countries that ban drugs or alcohol. It's poor control or being spoiled, no in between but most importantly, no "illness".
>>1969051Instead of talkin in buzzwordese, prove wrong.
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>>1968980>many cases of OCD and severe phobias are quite literally the result of curlinghoser spotted
No. 1972039
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>>1971847Yesss. Ozempic celebs look so fucking awful, Bella Hadid's weight loss fucked up her back and she looks like an old lady. I see people constantly tell her that she looks better after even with her bones deteriorating and her spine slouching. who's genius idea was it to make Auschwitz-chic a thing? At least the heroin chic skinny in the 90s could be accomplished for most women via diet. Now you gotta get damn near Jesus to look good now
No. 1972372
>>1970855Being a brainwashed religious girly has nothing to do with the slave mentality of saying "omg if I don't eat this chip I'm totally in control of my body and everyone else who has a pound of body fat is obese and lame"
Anorexia is not self starving, anorexia is a narc belief of being better and being in control, the self starving is a consequence, just like binge is self control over food and throwing up.
Religious and traumatizing experience that make you avoid food is not anorexia, you don't call muslshits who do ramadan binge eaters because they fast for all day and then stuff themselves all night.
("muslshits" bait) No. 1973638
>>1972557>Mental health "awareness" was a mistake.It really was. I used to be in a support group for mental illness (psychotic shit, not pds), people were sharing actual advices on how to cope and then first it had to be limited due to zoomers wanting to fit in and actually harming the group by saying shit like "Rp post: we let our hallucinations talk!" and then closed because they were shitting up the join requests with slurs and shit about us gatekeeping and hurting the mentally ill youth.
I believe that this fad will go away but it's a dark time, the psych wards are also filled with said zoomers who are just spicy normies at best who get into circlejerking so bad that they convice themselves that they're sick, it's like watching a religious/cult mass delusion. It's not like they give up doing shit, they do shit, they just put on this helpless facade for asspats, that's why I believe that these people sure are sick but not sick of the thing they say that they have. They are all some sort of histrionic/manipulative thing because a sane person doesn't do that.
No. 1984054
>>1972557>>1973638I'm so torn on the topic because I think general mental health awareness and care are the best they have ever been. People's issues are taken more seriously and actual therapy is available in assorted ways. I would never go back to times when I was told that I don't have issues, mental illness doesn't exist, and all that needed to be done was for my parents to beat me. My psychotic mother was also met with violence every time she went delulu, and honestly watching this traumatized me and I still have a visceral, knee-jerk reaction to normies who justify literal abuse and torture of severely mentally ill. Or anyone, for that matter, people just want an excuse for their sadism more often than not, not even these whiny bastards online deserve violence, that's not how things should be approached.
At the same time, I'm sick of every normal human behavior being seen as a symptom. I'm tired of not being able to talk about literally anything without being assumed to be autistic, adhd, clinically depressed, bipolar, ocd, schizo, and whatever else. More so, I hate that I'm written off as disabled or I need disability to justify my choices in life. Why can't I just vaguely say that I'm fine doing X or not doing Y because it just works for me, it makes me happy, or it fulfills me, or provide literally any other complex answer? Why, instead, I must always talk through the prism of issues I have been diagnosed with/pending diagnosis (I dropped out of this, I honestly don't care if I'm a clinical retard or not, I'm living a decent comfortable life) or through the prism of things being seen as a part of some special mentos disodor experience?
I feel dehumanized and I hate how a lot of these people instead conclude that I'm either neurotypical or am some sort of miraculous case of full remission and recovery that absolutely was granted to my by the universe through sheer luck and absolutely not years of working on and learning myself. I'm sick of my friend constantly asking what is wrong with her and wanting to be validated for a random diagnosis her psych slapped on the prescription. She straight up got validization from a type of drug she was prescribed too, saying, "if I got X, that means I have [disorder]!" That's not how any of this works. I'm tired.
No. 1985781
>>1983941sage for blogpost but as a former bringer of the fp curse, this shit is so draining. Bippies are a shitty ouroboros, constantly saying "muh muh why does everyone leave" only to only see black and totally lacking self awareness. I don't believe in "black and white" shit because I never saw the white and if there was, it was nothing compared on the black split. My bippie friend absolutely destroyed me, my mental and physical health (I started getting panic attacks and dermatitis due to stress and you know, even if it's not dangerous once in months, panic attack after panic attack is not good for your vascular system and my cortisol levels were sky high) when I wasn't available due to work and family stuff but when she was in a white mood, she barely did anything for me. For ex. I am a videogame concept artist, not once she shared one of my works or commented on it while doing a lot of lip service during the day. There was no actual "white" when it was my time to get support for my work/personal goals but she blackmailed me and sent my private stuff to my coworkers like wtf. I believe that if psychologist saw bpd dynamics and not only what the bpd patient tells them, because of course they're gonna babble about their fp being perfect angel, they won't see anything but a narcisstic and owner-pet dynamic. It's not black and white, it's black and dark grey where if you take a bad step, you're doomed. I always felt like a dog who had to do her stupid tricks to get rewards and get beaten if I didn't. Careful about my words: not if I did something wrong, but if I didn't do something that in her mind registered as good. I didn't need to be bad for her, I only needed to not to be available for her going absolutely bonkers. I do not fucking care if you have bpd, I'm gonna judge and avoid everyone who talks about it even in a inclusive matter, I'm done. To be a perfect FP you don't have to be the P, you don't have to be the person, bippies cross boundaries because to them you're not a "person", you're a source of comfort and that's all, like a toddler with a pacifier, when the toddler throws away their pacifier ofc they don't care about its feeling: it's an object. that's what people are in bippie's eyes: actual mental retardation with no concept of empathy and boundaries. Even autistic people (and they often overlap) are more emotionally intelligent than them.
No. 1985917
>>1983941>>1985322it's true. they will always try to justify and rationalize their own actions no matter how crazy or uncalled for meanwhile the other person is just pure evil if they ever slight them in any way. they also love to project and call the people they've split on abusers, mean, mentally ill etc, as a form of damage control and to label themselves as
victims to distract others from their own behaviour.
i know a few bpd people and they only have two modes when there's a conflict. either getting overly defensive and hateful with a big desire to fight and flip out, or getting overly apologetic in a completely shallow, self deprecating manner that makes it impossible to accept their "apology" without also agreeing with whatever hyperbolic negative statements about themselves they throw in there. like "i'm sorry i'm the worst person ever, i know i'm a horrible person who doesn't deserve to live yada yada". you often get the first mode during the conflict and then the second mode afterwards when they want to make up. but in my experience when you bring up a past disagreement they'll backtrack on their hysteric, self loathing apology and just go back to insisting they did nothing wrong and you're the one at fault. which is always unsurprising because they were never actually sorry for anything.
No. 1988036
Being religious.
I'm not talking from a "le epic atheist xD" point of view, I'm talking about actual religious freaks. To be that invested into something with no evidence of existing, and religious people love to say shit like that is real only if you believe it which is equal to troon logic (a woman is everyone who identifies as a woman/god exists if you believe it exists) but I think that being so scared of stuff outside the religion to the point that you actually believe that you're going to burn alive forever, that you can be excused for slaughter/torture because some god says so, this is particular in some eastern shitholes, you can act like a freak and hurt yourself/others and you can be opted out of accontability because some greater being "forgave" you has to be examined and analyzed as a mental deficit. People are blowing themselves up for believing that they can reach Heaven or its equivalent, how come that for example schizophrenic people can have "religious delusions" as a symptoms but being religious is not a concern? I'm talking about every religion, the belief that your life can be/has to be influenced by something that you believe, itdoesn't make sense at all and the people who suffer from it are women (often seen as impure and tortured) and children (being mutilated/forced to being abused/being abused with no accountability). Very religious people to me look like a subcategory of delusional/paranoid people and I think that you have to be not too right in the head to unironically give in into stuff that lets you live like that. In Jeovah's Witness Cult, people can't fucking cry at funerals because they believe that they're gonna meet again and while I think it's a good coping mechanism, the fact that they deluded themselves enough to suppress all human emotion gives me very ill vibes.
No. 1989333
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ADHD. I have a friend who claims to have it and is "seeking diagnosis" and it's like buddy, no you fucking don't. You 100% complete video games and magically know the new release of every piece of media you're interested in. How can you claim to have problems focusing on long-term projects and time blindness? Come on. Everyone I've befriended with a real diagnosis (except for one moid, hate that the moid is the sole good one) has the worst learned helplessness I've ever seen (and I know PDA autists) and apparently zero drive to actually manage and live with their condition. "Lol sorry I have 80HD" just becomes the default excuse for everything without taking any steps to not fuck up the same way twice.
No. 1989372
>>1983941>>1985322>>1985781>>1985917god forbid you point out BPD are often
abusive, you're just being phobic and "not helpful". just look at the BPD thread by yourself and you will see, they get angry at anyone just mentioning they were abused by BPDemons and that's why a lot of people avoid them.
No. 1989378
>>1989333seeking diagnosis is
sus because if you're seeking diagnosis you either need meds/therapy or you need a formal diagnosis for work/school accommodations but if you're hyperfocusing like that to 100% videogames you're medicated or you don't have ADHD (I say that, as someone who has ADHD and only was able to complete anything I wanted 100% once I got medicated) or you're autism/ADHD (which your friend probably isn't). does she even know what she wants from her diagnosis? most of the time fakers don't really care about therapy or meds (because surprise, surprise, they really don't have an issue) and just want the "bragging rights" and cushy excuse from a professional diagnosis. when an ADHD therapist will literally instruct you to avoid using it as excuse and try to push yourself whenever you can.
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>>1989372kek a lot of the abyoos they claim is just to protect themselves from scrutiny by others (if they label themselves as the
victims and control the narrative, people can't/won't accuse them of stuff). they want to be immune to criticism, even when they pretend to be ~self aware~ it's just to make themselves out to be the
victim anyway. they literally can't be genuine about anything.
No. 1990128
>>1989737I did have symptoms because I literally was raised by a person who had BPD so I copied many
toxic traits. however as I started growing up I immediately noticed people were put off by most of the behaviors I was mirroring and stopped doing them without even needing therapy, I just thought they were normal things people did to each other, sometimes had no idea why people were so put off by something I did. by the time I was an adult and actually went to therapy extensively I didn't have traits enough to be considered diagnosed. I have talked about this with two different therapists because I was horrified with the idea of having it in my early 20s and was terrified of becoming like her.
No. 1992031
>>1992009yeah it can manifest as hyperfocusing on something to the point of debilitation. The disorder isn’t so much a deficit in attention, but an inability to direct your attention to what needs to be done.
That said I don’t blame anon for avoiding people with it. People definitely use it as an excuse rather than an explanation and those who tend to be loudest about their condition are the worst offenders. I never bring up having it irl unless it is actually relevant and never as an excuse for my poor behavior.
No. 1992037
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>>1992021NTA That anon doesn't seem very sane tbh when she willingly went to the BPDfag thread and posted this, obviously people would get upset. Now she's victimizing herself. Unaware BPDfags always blame others then turn around and start shit like this. It's the lack of self awareness and having had BPD traits, most BPD demons who say they have traits are actually full on BPD and lack accountability. I was friends with someone who swore did not have BPD though their parent did and in the end they acted pretty unhinged themselves. It's the "I'm better than you\them!" without proving they actually are any better, if they deny it then they're not getting any help and will act in unmanageable ways. Also, BPD traits will always be inside them, even if they enter remission, once that anon admitted she had them it was over for her. Once a BPD demon always a BPD demon. And if you justify her BPD behavior, then you're part of the problem kek.
Rule of thumb anyone obsessed this much with BPD probably has it themselves, don't fuck around with them. If fleas truly existed then no one would really have BPD, a disease that gets passed down from parents to child. Her having a BPD mom is
sus already.
No. 1993740
Autism is disruptive and I'm tired to pretend it's not. We should also give back the Asperger definition because lumping everything into autism does no one no favor. Asperger Autism is very different from Mental Retardation Autism and I hate that even autists get offended at that, mostly because "we don't want to be associated with a nazi!"
What a weak argument? Change the fucking name, then? How can you be okay with that?
I've met a lot of autistic people due to my job and the difference is so big that I actually had some difficulties when people had to check in generic autistic people because even the therapy is so different.
For asperger, there are mainly psychologists and psychiatrist who help with emotional regulation and coping mechanisms, for the other autism there are kindergarten level teachers for them because they have to be patient to understand their tard meltdowns, in particular there was this case that broke my heart:
One day, a very thin woman checks in with her abomination of a son. she was most likely an addict but meanwhile you can more or less recover from addiction, you can't (sadly) euthanize a very ill son.
She said that she didn't want this son but "it happened" and she was in tears because they got an eviction note, she can't work because she has no money to take care of his son (and no family because they told her to fuck off for being an addict and most likely the son was a shitty consequence of an intercourse for money reasons) and the disability check doesn't cover for rent, so she's trying to keep him alive by buying benzos and food so at least he doesn't scream but these benzos make him eat like a pig so he's around 80kg at 10 years old and she's 49kg. He's putting her in much trouble because when the meds wear off he starts to scream and he randomly drags her on the fucking street in front of cars.
I will never, ever buy the lie that even they're non verbal or retarded, they have some kind of intelligence or understand what's going on. If they understood, why would this sack of meat run in front of cars? Why would he scream at night?
I'm merely a helper at my work but I heard that they run a lot of tests to him and he's "just" autistic, it's not like he has some other thing or his brain is fucked, his brain is okay (for ex. no tumors or strange patterns), he's just autistic so the problem is that her mother didn't have much money to put him in a facility at birth because autism can be managed . What a fucking sad life.
No. 1994030
>>1471643This. I am somewhat close to a bunch of women and men with mental illnesses and I am fine with them, even the borderliner dude I regularly argue with. But unmedicated bipolars are legit scary. I had a friend that seemed chill until he was 25 and then it got bad. Like, really bad. Incel bad. Years later he still obsesses over our past friendship that ended fucking ages ago, recently he contacted me out of nowhere to demand money from me that he spent because of me that he now wants back since the friendship didn't turn out to be what he wanted, wtf.
Like no, I won't fucking refund the train tickets you spent money at to come to my city six years ago, fuck off. I hate that he knows where I live.
Thinking about it, I once met a bipolar woman that was kind of scary too. Got physically aggressive out of nowhere. I wish these shitters would seek help already instead of threatening others. I don't give a shit how you do it, just force them to psychiatrists or get rid of them.
90% of the time you hear about murders in my country it's always fucking unmedicated bipolars or schizophrenics.
I know a 30yo+ bipolar woman that takes meds and she is super cool. And actually enjoys her life instead of being a miserable fuck fueled by guilt-tripping others and professional victimhood. But some shitters love their fictive
victim role and hate others so much that they refuse to believe that they could be the problem and not the rest of the world.
No. 1994051
>>1993740As an asperger I hate that too. It also doesn't help at all in spreading awareness and getting help because I meet more and more people that tell me I am not autistic because I am not a retarded shit that screams and eats my own shit all day.
Fuck this. There is a reason for why autism was separated between asperger and kanner. I am sick of pretending to be the same to not offend people that don't even have a functioning brain to understand language. I don't even see the point since as you say, the therapies are fundamentally different and there are barely any mental similarities. An adult asperger is closer to a schizoid than a Kanner, or a retarded autist or however they would call it today if they didn't pretend it was the same.
No. 1994124
>>1993740I hate how often I see people who are intelligent enough to type out 10 paragraphs proclaiming that they have tism themself and consider tism to be a special lil brain blessing so any mother struggling with a head banging, thrashing, non verbal child is missing the beauty of her sweet lil autism cherib if she takes even one moment to dare and vent about what that entails day to day. The struggle, the hopelessness.. the worry, thinking about the future.. no wait tism is beautiful!
Like no, the tism you maybe even only found out you had as an adult doesn't make you and that non verbal child one and the same. They never feel a thing for the families around severely autistic children. And their empathy for the child is hallow. In reality they've so little in common with that child. They're closer to moms level and yet she's just a non-person because why is she hopeless when she could be a 'wow autism is fab' mom
No. 1994144
>>1994124I often wonder if these people even are autists. I never met any actually mentally ill person fetishizing this stuff, I only see this with special snowflakes from social media.
Like I am autistic and since it's me I am not sure if I would dare to get rid of it if I could since I am too afraid to lose large parts of my personality that are tied to it. But I never considered it a direct positive thing either. There is so much suffering tied to this, even if the reasons aren't yourself but the outside world that is made by and for non-autists. I cannot imagine ever fetishizing this, let alone the serious forms of autism that turns people into eternal toddlers with anger issues.
These people romantizise illnesses because they imagine how special they would be if they had it since they only know it from movies.
No. 1994193
>>1994184Same here. I am also autistic and was the one that made that post
>>1994030I wish I was more aware of this illness and the behavior I would have never befriended that person in the past. They seem obsessed with victimhood and they WILL guilt-trip you on any given occasion and kick down while pretending to be morally flawless. They also strike as very, very vindictive and at least the one I knew best envied everybody for everything and seethed about this.
I wish my country had a better health-system to diagnose such people early to protect the rest of humanity from them.
No. 1994219
>>1994184Totally. It's impossible to spend time with any bpdfag without being made to feel like a bad person for breathing the wrong way or having any kind of boundary, yet they will complain time and time again how they're such
victims of uwu cruel society while boasting about their 80 diagnoses and never making an effort to get better. Does anyone notice how they view life like a movie? They'll argue personal conflicts like it's a court case because they can't imagine doing anything wrong, or being perceived like they did.
No. 1994270
>>1994072honestly as someone who was emotionally and physically abused by my (non bpd) family then later emotionally abused by an ex friend with bpd, i think most cases of bpd "fleas"/mirroring are really just bpders pretending they don't have it, while trying to get better at the same time. actual "fleas" would be reactions you have as a result of the abuse like if a bpd person kept splitting on you, or in my case i would agree with everything my mom said so she wouldn't get mad and scream at me or beat me, and with my bpd friend i would do the same thing except it was a lot easier to get away from it since it was mostly online text and i was already much older. i don't beat my gf even though my parents hit me, or split on people and accuse them of wanting me to die lmao, which is what my friend did. however i did immediately doormat myself towards new people and relationships, coworkers, etc and had to work on that to stop doing so. fleas don't make you exhibit actual bpd traits lmao. i do think bpd is treatable though if they want to get better and i imagine people with less severe cases will brush it off as "fleas" because they fixed it.
>>1994237my bpd friend did this too she would accuse me of siding with her ex bf who cheated on her (i literally never even spoke to him once) whenever she started ruminating about him. insanity
No. 1994375
>>1994270>whenever she started ruminating about himYes this is something I noticed. Sometimes they seem normal for a while or silent for months after you split up. Then, ALL of a sudden they start to think about something obsessively when they are alone, get mad about their own thoughts and vent by coming back to you to bring up old shit and accuse of everything they can think of and every harmless thing you ever said or done that they never brought up before but were obviously bothered with.
I rather have a friend telling me what they dislike than a shizo that engages in hobbies with me and never says a thing only to explode ages later and tell me that I "forced" them to do things they hate (this is literally what the person I mentioned did/does).
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the way some bpd scrotes love to uwu-fy themselves is repulsive
No. 1994999
>>1994902BPD stunts your emotional growth, when you feel like a child and relate only to younger people it's no surprise you go after them because the adults are too "adult" (actual words I heard from a bpd).
BPD people constantly live in a teenage love fanfiction, not trying to excuse them, in fact I almost got my BPD to the police for creeping out for high schoolers as a 25 year old but I can see that they don't mature ever so yeah that's it. They're dangerous.
No. 2004870
>>2004855I have before by my ex gf with her brother (flying monkey) and somebody I was friends with (lost in touch) in elementary school-high school was kinda caught in a smear campaign. Well her bf att was, but still. They really don't have any logic at all.
I was thinking about that bullshit smear campaign that happened almost 9 years ago earlier today. Supposedly that crazy BPD bitch hated her flying monkey one or two years after the incident, and she's the type to find reasons to hate others. Her and my ex fit the BPD label almost 100%.
The former happened 6 months ago the latter happened almost 9 years ago. Adolescents (when it happened to the latter) and individuals in their 20's know damn better not to start this bullshit; it's something the elementary school aged playground bullies would do/act like.
No. 2005133
>>2004855I had a BPD friend. Trying to talk with her was impossible because she would turn anything into a full blown argument about how her opinion was better than mine, fed up with this I wrote a lenghty message explaining how this shit couldn't work anymore and I would step out of the friendship and she accused me online of being an obsessive stalker, for just making a list of all the time I felt bad and how that hurt me, in her narrative I was the pos who constantly harrassed her and I couldn't accept the end of our friendship, because she said that I couldn't pick up all the hints that she disliked me (apparently saying that you are passive aggressive instead of honest is better in her twisted view) and I
wanted to be with her at all costs and trying to change her to be on my level. Wtf. For being depressed and suicidal little shits, they sure have over the top consideration of themselves. I don't have time for this shit and to this day, people tell me that she still talks about me like move the fuck on lmao this was a year ago, how can you accuse others of being obsessive if you're still making public posts about me what a fucking loser
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https://x.com/loullipopx/status/1791274599780331699I hate this type of coping, shut the fuck up for christ's sake! We do not need a BPD awareness month, we're very well aware because bippies sure can't shut the fuck up about it!
No. 2007407
>>2007383Do you camp on this thread or what? Kek. Nta I think their vent about your mental illness driven post is also
valid.
No. 2007453
>>2007407i didn't make that post? there are dozens of posts like they one they replied to, sorry that one in particular
triggered you. either don't take it personally or don't read the thread
No. 2007491
I am absolutely rambling at 4 AM.
as someone who survived a mother with bpd, quite literally, I resent a lot of parents who chose to be parents in spite of their mental illness.
my mother murdered my sibling years ago and gained custody of his daughter. She is now 10. Of course Ive gone no contact since that night. My friend sent me a photo of the niece now. Im sure it was meant out of love, but not taken very well by me. My niece is apparently forced into reliving my childhood, with the exact sport she pushed on me that age. Not only that, but she also has the same haircut, and is styled exactly the way she styled me at 10.
This woman claimed she is a “changed person” and went to therapy, but she is still bloated and puffy from alcoholism. She put on the act to gain custody of a kid she doesn't deserve to have, just to relive my childhood. Of course I looked at her fb profile and she is constantly posing her self as a martyr and a victim all the fucking time, she puts Livia Soprano to shame.
I worry about that kid, fuck I really do. I cant go back though. I literally deescalated flights and gun fights, suicide baiting, rage tantrums. We moved 11 times before I graduated. She dated man after man, and let some of them move in instantly.
She once told me when I was a teen that I wasnt “doing bulimia” right, and she shared purging tips. … also, that I made her want to commit suicide because I would literally run her business pt and needed money to pay medical bills. (She owed me thousands).
The horror stories go on, but I will spare you. This Mother2.0 is just an act and I wish that I could adopt my niece, but Im not ready.
Im self aware enough to recognize i need more therapy, better finances, better career before I even consider children. Some BPD people fuck their children up and then wonder why their kids are fucked up.
In terms of my niece, I can only hope she will hear me out as an adult and maybe we can rekindle our relationship.
I guess all the mothers day social media has really triggered me and sorry for ranting, but fuck bpd moms and fuck people who chose to traumatize their children.
No. 2007496
>>2007491Oh my god nona. I really wasn't ready for that spoiler. I'm so sorry. I also have a BPD mom and everything you describe is very familiar, your conclusion is perfectly logical. I'm also of the opinion BPD people simply shouldn't be allowed to have kids, ever, and the fact that so many of them have babies frequently just to get brand new bandaids/punching bags only proves us right.
As for your niece, i think that maybe you should reach out to other family members, see if they can set up something. I don't know anything about your situation so maybe that's impossible. I do think you'd be a much better alternative to CPS. I really hope you'll be able to stay in her life, don't be too hard on yourself for not immediately taking her in, maybe she'll move in when she's older. I'm honestly just shocked, like floored, that she can adopt a kid when she murdered her own. So many people deeply believe women are born to raise kids and that being female naturally makes you good at it. I hate it
No. 2008280
>>2007496Hey nonna, thank you for the support. Sorry you grew up with a BPD Mom too.
My extended family keeps tabs on my niece and mother, but I simply cannot handle the chaos that would come with trying to get custody. Before my brother died, he was stalked, harassed, and abused by my mom. She even bought a burner phone and used photos of his highschool crush, pretending to be her. She made fake fb pages and begged me to help her find hitmen on the internet.
It may be selfish, but I dont want to die. I am already struggling with paranoia and cant take on the custody battle. I deleted my social media, moved cities, and changed numbers. She told my aunt a few months ago that she found out where I live and
drove by “casually” out of curiosity. My aunt reminded her that I will file harassment charges, and that I have cameras on the property, and that stopped her from escalating.
No. 2010152
>>2004855BPD SAd me and then had the audacity to claim I was the one who did it. Copied my description when I spoke out about it word for fucking word.
>>2007491What the fuck, how has she not been arrested or put in an institution for that crime.
No. 2010551
Whatever this bitch has going on. Using her as an example but people who are always the victim and claim that their emotional outbursts are other people or somehow their actions are justified because they got offended. The kind of people that changes personality in every friend group, in every relationship and somehow is always the victim who is just "too pure for this world."
I woulnd't say that this is BPD, BPD is more disruptive, this is some narc lite type shit, notice how she seems so light hearted when talking about trauma and stalking. People with little to no empathy who want to be traumatized so bad (often BPD people are traumatized but they refuse to seek help, that's the difference), they cosplay a mental condition but some how their "illness" doesn't affect their daily life until it's time to put up the victim act. Sage for using a somehow famous person but seeing her mannerism, they way that she changed through the years, the fact that she talks about her normal human emotions as different people and she's still maintaining the facade is still creepy, no sane person does that and I knew irl someone who acted just like her and being someone who was actually stalked/harrassed I wouldn't act like this on camera, in fact it would make me even more paranoid. Needless to say, of course she doesn't have multiple personality, it's just the cashgrab online character. This is way worse than what Pixie is doing and she really has bpd.
No. 2021659
Sometimes I wonder…why aren't Cluster B people tired? Of their own shit? Aren't they constantly tired to find shit to argue with or who? Aren't they tired to "suffer"? It's all about their own attitude and personality so why they won't just stop? They are clearly in distress of being like that, did they ever try to chill for a minute? For a good part of my youth I was a big mental health activist but then the more time I passed with actually sick people the less it made sense for me. I thought that these people were destructive period but they were capable to hold a job and when I asked one of them how did they manage to keep one they replied "Well, I mask at work! I know I can get fired!"
So since you very well know about action-reaction (if you insult or split at your boss, they gonna fire you dumb dumb), why can't you fucking care about the feelings of the people around you? Why can't they mask around normal people? They are all so full of shit but the creepy side is that everything is calculated. They calculate every move, they split convienently when their fp of family is having a great/celebration day, turning it into a MEMEMEMEME!!!! day.
They are full of shit and since cluster b are often genetic traits, they all should be castrated so at least they don't pass down harmful traits. Low or no empathy is not compatible to our social species. I hate how they act falsely surprised or cry when their fp is mad at them for being pieces of shit, Like what did you expect, little tard? That after insulting and treating people badly, everything will get forgotten like you do when you split? I hate how everything is an act and they choose to be pieces of shit. I truly despise it.
No. 2022597
>>2021675Then why don't they just stop lmao, it's literally that simple. If they can mask and see how their shit affects people, then they can stop. Omg what do you mean that when you insult a person they become…angry?? Oh no!! What did I do!
They should all go kys at the end of their own hell loop and I have no empathy for those that do. I will never spread awareness for them because they're self aware by themselves, they don't need coddling, it's like a certain outcome, either they grow out of it or they don't but if they don't is no one responsibility.
No. 2022712
>>2022597ntayrt but i mean you explained it in your own post. they actively benefit from it. fp is having a great day and getting more attention than them? they 'split' to regain control of the situation. they can mask at work but not in casual social interactions? it's because they wouldn't benefit from getting fired, but they do benefit from manipulating social relationships in certain ways.
the 'oh no what did i do i didn't realize insulting people would make them mad' is literally just verbal weaponized incompetence to get away with this behavior. ofc they realized. they just either didn't have the impulse control to keep themselves from doing it, or they were trying to provoke a reaction. simple as.
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>>2024127Teens have done this since the lj era (depression, bisexuality, trannyism, autism, and adhd) because they want to blame being a poorly socialized loser on something.
No. 2027240
>>2026955Twitter zoomers reblog self help and therapy exercises in case their mutuals get
triggered over some random streamer making an offensive joke that day but then jump onto their burners to tell people to k word themselves because they're too cowardly to say the actual thing too
No. 2029011
>>2028954>Can you speak with the daughter?I don't think so. Once, my mom wanted to wipe something with a rag on the staircase, and the daughter watched her through the peephole and told her mother, as if something criminal was going on. So the schizo neighbor went out and threw a tantrum because she instantly interpreted it in some crazy way, she even made threats that time but unfortunately it wasn't recorded. I'm afraid that if I speak with the daughter, she will retell it to her mother and the latter will become even more hostile and paranoid.
>Is there a company that manages the building Eh, not really… I might be describing it in not the most accurate way but this is a very old house and it's maintained by governmental enterprise of housing and communal services or something like that. They're not really that involved, for example, the residents do cosmetic repairs on their floor themselves. But ofc they do certain things the residents can't do and there's a cleaning lady that works for them that sometimes comes and mop the floors and stairs. But that's it basically. The neighbor loves to call there and shout her lungs out when, for example, the elevator doesn't work (it's VERY old, so it happens) and she has to use the stairs. I'm not sure if they can do anything other than making a remark and receive a tantrum in response. I wonder if I can involve the police but I also don't expect much here. I guess until crazy neigbors start chasing other residents with an axe you can't really do anything about them and their shenanigans.
No. 2029036
>Mental disorder you can't deal with
Men with diabetes.
Out of everyone I have met with (type 1) diabetes, Men were the most likely to totally neglect their condition and try to live like they didn't have an autoimmune disease. Because of this they will ALWAYS struggle with depression, anxiety, and rage because blood sugar controls your mood, emotions, and mental clarity. They will be right at the doorstep of ketoacidosis and not give a fuck, no, it's all for the women in their lives to hem and haw over. They couldn't give less of a fuck. They will be miserable to be around ALL THE TIME, and when they share their neglectful habits ("when I'm in the 200s I feel DEATHLY low!!"/"I DO give insulin! I give 8 units of long acting insulin everyday!"/"I don't want a pump even though I have dogshit control because I don't want some prosthetic with tubes attached to my body!!!"/etc) they do it with a barely hidden sort of glee because they want to worry the party they're speaking to. Plus there's an element of "oh wow, he's really struggling with this horrible autoimmune disease every day, how tragic".
I fucking hate men with diabetes. The way anons feel about scrotes with autism is how I feel about scrotes with diabetes.
No. 2029393
>>2029036I've only had experiences with women with diabetes and they were all type 2. My grandmother had type 2 diabetes and for a while, she took care of it. She managed her diabetes very well, even lost a significant amount of weight/fat. It was towards the end of her life that she didn't manage it well, with the exception of eating produce, which at least she did that. She also had manic/bipolar depression as well. There's another woman who's very nice that has type 2, who's most likely skinny-fat as thinner women who have it most likely are skinny-fat due to being skinny-fat has almost the same risks as class 1 obesity, including type 2 diabetes. I honestly thought she had type 1 until my mom mentioned she's type 2. Then there's this one old woman I had the misfortune of meeting who was very nasty in general. Talked shit about others in front of their faces, rudely shushed me when I excitedly sperged about car and automobile stuff, talked shit about any and everyone, screeched about being disrespected yet didn't respect other people. Also talked down to me like I was 6. She has type 2 diabetes and depression and doesn't manage the diabetes well. She dresses like a slob, eats like crap and whines about wanting to lose weight yet does jack shit to change it. Can't stand her.
No. 2030330
>>2004855>>2010152Yes. I was the FP of a 21 yo woman with BPD once when I was 18 and I was getting tired of her shit and overall needed a break since I was busy, and it
triggered her abandonment issues I believe. She accused me of sexually assaulting her to my friend group, who completely cut me off. I couldn't do anything because any rebuttal would have, understandably, sounded like
victim-blaming because she's BPD so she's a vulnerable mentally ill baby and I must've taken advantage of it like the evil ableist I am. She provided false details of date and time to the group too when on that day I was literally in a compulsory workshop at uni.
When I tried to show them my literal timetable and attendance, she and the group screeched that "
victims may have blurry memories of date and time". That's true, but then why give them a specific date and time and expect me not to defend myself against it?
Her flying monkeys proceeded to say "this isn't court, you're just
victim-blaming" as if I didn't get accused of a crime. Yes it's not court but did they expect me to not defend myself? I don't even know what I could have done without sounding like, as
>>2004855 said, a moid who screeches against the metoo movement.
No. 2030354
>>2030325Parents like that legitimately freak me out, because if they're missing the fact that their child may need help or just comfort in order to slap them with a personality disorder with a diagnosis age requirement of
eighteen, then that parent is most definitely projecting a lot of other things onto that poor kid. Reminds me of my mother regularly telling her friends, when I was only nine, that I "stole all her youth and beautifulness and left her with nothing" because I looked just like her, while she never took care of her weight and acne after the pregnancy. She also tried to tell everyone that I was a sociopath (when I was only twelve), because I liked watching scary movies, making up stories about monsters, and preferred being around anyone else than her. Sorry for the blogpost, it's just that IME, I think there's something deeply wrong with most people who think their kids have a personality disorder. I think they actually WANT their kids to have a personality disorder, so that they can easily blame their problems on their "evil child" and achieve a type of veteran status among other parents.
No. 2034879
>>2034163BPD diagnoses are hit and miss. Sometimes you have the actual extremely
toxic abusive BPDs who wreak havoc on everything they touch. Other times it's just a girl who cried during her initial therapy appointment due to recalling something traumatic and the old moid psychiatrist immediately slapped BPD because it's the modern hysteria diagnosis.
No. 2041053
>>2040571I'm not gonna blame the 11 year old you for not having great insight on why you couldn't go out. But how tf are you an adult still sounding like you have the exact same level of understanding today that an 11 year old would have.
>I think she got off on the idea that they were having sex with her and not me, her competitionYou think like someone who has serious issues yourself. Whole post is a self own.
No. 2041241
>>2041053>>2040958Both of you misunderstood what I said in the post. It wasn't that they were afraid I would go out and do those things, they genuinely believed I was guilty already and said to my face they had evidence they could show to the police, and when I asked for them to provide it, I got nothing.
>You think like someone who has serious issues yourself. Whole post is a self own.Accusing me of listening to my mom or lying is hilarious when she would go into my room wearing a towel afterwards and brag about it to my face calling herself attractive and hot. Nice try.
No. 2041267
>>2041257>Even the slightest "maybe your circumstances made you feel like less of a woman/man" will get me dragged across concrete for being a terf. that's part of the appeal. for the nonassertive and/or these kind of abuse
victims, it lets them feel like an authority and untouchable. it's not true at all, hence all the TIFs still being
victims of male violence.
No. 2042087
>>2034879>Other times it's just a girl who cried during her initial therapy appointment due to recalling something traumatic and the old moid psychiatrist immediately slapped BPD because it's the modern hysteria diagnosisThat's how a psychiatrist diagnosed me, she said she didn't even need to run tests because I was clearly BPD for getting mad at my mom not letting me speak. Yes my mom was in that appointment, she is pretty enmeshed and infantilizing, I was already 21. And I was dealing with my other parent dying months before. Btw, it's not just old moid therapists doing this, the person who diagnosed me was female and in her 30s.
I do fit some of the criteria (bad emotional coping mechanisms due to abuse, not the sexual/reckless behavior ones) but I've been going to therapy recently and my psychologist mentioned to me how I might have some BPD behaviors but I'm not the BPD itself. "The bpd is just a snapshot in your life and basing everything on the DMSV is not that reliable", I would explain more but I don't want to make my post too long. He basically made a point to say that I have them because no one really showed me how to be emotionally healthy and that once I learn to self regulate I will get better. It was nice to hear. I don't downplay all the stuff I've caused for others and myself for not knowing how to deal with shit though, but I just want to say this for other women who have been mis/diagnosed on this thread. Might help detaching yourself from the DMSV a little.
No. 2042128
>>2034879When I was 15 I was pretty depressed and cried a lot and was dealing with an e-breakup because of fucking course kek and I was desperate to find out what was wrong with me so I self dxd with BPD after two google searches because "emotional instability" and "difficulty with relationships" like the dumbass I was. I manage to get into this government funded child mental health service thing a year later and told them my reasoning. What does the male psych do? Write "borderline personality disorder" it down on my diagnostic sheet one session later. Didn't even go through any diagnostic criteria.
Psychs do this with autism and adhd easily as well apparently. I bet a lot of kids with self dxd adhd or bpd could do better by getting off their phones and better mentalities with schoolwork or jobs
No. 2042131
>>2042128Adding on I think a lot of people especially teenagers and young women can fall down the self dx rabbit hole and think they're some form of neurodivergent or cluster b (looking at all the online npd larpers) when their supposed cluster b traits are literally only in their heads due to autistic imagination. I've known a few previously self dxd "cluster b" who were just chronically online shut-ins but irl would never go anything a real cluster b would, like making scenes and being overly dramatic, inappropriate sexual behaviour, emotionally or physically
abusive etc
Don't google search heavy disorders kids kek
No. 2042230
>>2042147Nope. Had a friend do the exact same thing, confess her undying marriage vow level love to me in like five paragraphs. Only four months later?
>"You're a horrible person, you're a selfish, hypocritical and overall awful person. I may have done bad things but at least I'm not a horrible person like you. I regret all the years I spent with you and I hope your year and life is as horrible as you are" Expanded in like 2 pages. She even accused me of having a lack of identity (classic bpd projection), being easily upset and
triggered, attention-seeking, being rotten to the core and unable to change because I was supposedly a narc, aka things SHE did during the friendship.
Idk if she was full BPD since we were young and formative during our friendship but she definitely had those weird easily offended splitting traits at times.
>>2042217Absolutely, it's black and white.
No. 2045415
>>2045334autists are genuinely different in levels though. pds are all the same with their delusional thinking and
toxic behaviours
No. 2046129
>>2042237my bpd ex gf was into all three and so was i but she ruined them for me by constantly insisting i was the exact same types as her in personality or spiritual systems. her codependency needed me to be the exact same as her and thought she understood and knew me to the core, and this was just one of the many ways it showed up
she said she saw me as an "extension of her" as her FP. and when i got tired and tried to refute her claims about me having similar traits or emotional responses as her with logic, she said "the fact you're so averse to being XYZ proves you're XYZ" like wtf is that logic?
actually, that logic applied to her when i suggested she might be somewhat mentally ill. i didn't even mention bpd, she got that diagnosed on her own, but i would make the slightest inclination she was mentally unhealthy and "reeee but i'm perfectly normal"
bpds think they know everything about you and how you work like you don't even know shit about your own empty identity, stfu.
No. 2048850
>>2046129>bpds think they know everything about you and how you work like you don't even know shit about your own empty identityMy bippie ex said shit like "omg let's go to your favourite restaurant!" when I went there like 2-3 times in my life but couldn't name my favourite color or even spell my last name correctly.
Why do they even do this (yes I know why, it's their mento illness but why lol), it's so easy to spot and call them out as liars and then they bitch and moan that nobody believes them, like no shit? It's easy to catch up personal information about someone, especially if they tell it themselves, like I said my favourite color, my ex had the balls to buy me a gold ring when I never wore gold and I always said that I don't like gold then he had hissy pissy fits about me not appreciating his efforts like put that effort into actually listening and registering information, you retard.
That's why to me BPD implies some sort of mental retardation, being non empathetic can have limits, not registering information and not using it means that you're at the same level of special needs kids in school, reading comprehension is trained in second grade.
No. 2049703
>>2048850>My bippie ex said shit like "omg let's go to your favourite restaurant!" when I went there like 2-3 times in my life but couldn't name my favourite color or even spell my last name correctly. God this is reminding me of a friend so much… she's always like "this is SO you" about things she wants me to be, but forgets actual important or even basic facts about me. Always trying to be "twinning", but it's always the things she likes and never her adopting my interests or likes. And whenever she does it she gives me the slightly more masculine option so she can be the most feminine one - like if she's the princess, I'm the prince.
It's always mildly annoyed me but I never really knew why because she's "being nice".
No. 2049871
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Some women that claim autism and cptsd are actually BPD no matter how much they say they were misdiagnosed. On the other hand when BPD women claim to have BPD and autism/ADHD I tend to believe them more. Also not defending MM, I just think this girl is the prime example of what I just said.
No. 2050063
>>2050057Oh god. My BPD exmoid threatened to accuse me of abusing him to my family and friends but thankfully he chickened out for some reason. This happened in 2022 and I shit you not that faggot tried referencing the Amber/Johnny case saying that he would be believed because men can be
victims too and it's gonna be his metoo moment. Like
>>2004855 said, they know how to use support for
victims and to manipulate their way through it. Funny thing is that it's basic knowledge Amber wasn't even the abuser, so really telling on himself.
No. 2051254
The thing about BPD that made me so fucking insane (literally, I've gone to therapy because I thought I was going mad and I needed unbiased support) is that they put on a perfect mask for you for the first months to lure you in. For the first months they put the effort to make you like them, they adopt the same interests, pretend to be interested in your shit (that's why they can somewhat recall your interests but not actual specific likings), listen to you,
act selfless and then once they are 100% sure you are in their trap, they switch it around. That's why to me BPD never made sense because they say that BPD is destructive to themselves where in reality everything is about them? In BPD relationship, the bippie NEVER suffers, never. Sure they can feel annoyed at the source but never at themselves, that's why their suffering is more frustration than anything and once the switch is off, they act like there's a bad event that
triggers a chain reactions of "bad days."
I can't count the bad days of my bippie friends that lured me in, everyday was a bad day (no shit, their brain is a fuming hot pot of shit but god, don't they get tired) everything could be a bad thing to ruin the whole day and breathe wrong and you're the devil.
Meanwhile you wish for the perfect mask at the beginning to come back. You wish for them to snap back, to get help and that never happens because they're addicted to the constant attention that you give them, they never have to give if you're too busy trying to solve their mental puzzles about the suffering of the day and then they compare themselves to people with depression.
I was depressed and I wanted to get out of that cycle (and eventually did) and the thing that made me realize that this person was a sack of shit is that I wanted to get out of the suffering and he didn't. I experimented with various drugs (mood stabilizers to at least get shit done at work) and he didn't. I did therapy, he didn't. I went to self helping sessions, he claimed an unbearable pain but he didn't do shit and when he was with other people he was magically cured. He had no bad days with other people. To other people he was perfect, the perfect friends or lover and then to me he was the saddest mf ever that came back at night to get their dose of attention and to make sure I was still interested in him. I often found myself wondering "Why can't I get the happy and fun version of the friend?" meanwhile he was feeding me the lie that he acted like that to me because he trusted me. Demonic behaviour. It could be so easy for them, like actually acting selfless and acting like their "masks" they CHOOSE not to. BPD is mostly a choice because it's egosyntonic, they are fine in their bubble as long they get attention.
>>2050064Most likely they see BPD as some kind of bipolar disorder with "big love" and "obsession!"
It's not like they romanticize bpd, they romanticize their own mood teen dysruptions and being obsessed with people, they don't know what BPD is, they just repeat.
No. 2051369
>>2051354Apparently listening to the same song on repeat is "stimming". I genuinely don't get why. I just like the song and sometimes I go music theory nerd and analyse it.
Another one I hate is the whole "I eat chicken nuggies every day, I'm arfid autistic uwu" like autists doing the same thing is real but you can just say you like chicken nuggets, no need for a disorder label.
No. 2051414
>>2040958>Your parents didn’t need to like give you a reason you couldn’t leave the house of course they got angry It doesn't sound normal or healthy at all. 11 y.o. aren't babies, they don't need to be supervised at all times. Parents have to set clear rules (like coming home before dark), maybe use a gps tracker. Definitely not locking you in a cage and not even letting ask questions and have a conversation about it. What kind of parenting is that? Children are not some mindless hamsters.
>they just didn’t realize you were thereThey didn't know other people in the house can hear them audibly moaning? It's not impossible to control it or just go somewhere else.
No. 2051436
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>>2050057Yeah I think so too. She couldn't handle her being way more famous and her retarded BPD ass acted out.
No. 2070655
>>2069017the epitome of bpd
is immaturity and arrested development though.
No. 2073926
>>2072370Maybe they have body image issues and any realistic criticisms is
triggering. Just my opinion though.
No. 2075338
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any mental illness that would compel people to pay literal dollars to sort movies into "triggers" such as those in picrel ("supporters" = current amount of people who pay a subscription fee to have that specific trigger get prioritized by the people who tag movies with them on the site). i don't necessarily have a problem with people online listing trigger warnings but this level of autism, ocd or whatever it could be is dare i say not valid.
No. 2075352
>>2075338I was expecting
triggers like murder or rape or necrophilia or those horror shit kek
No. 2075419
>>2075386there are therapists who diagnose and "treat" DID/multiple personality disorder too which is a completely fake illness
>>2075389sheltered ipad kid syndrome
No. 2078946
As much as I hate BPD and non-veteran PTSD/C-PTSD (my ex was both PTSD and BPD and she abused me), the one I hate even more is NPD. I've dealt with three NPD bullies in high school. They started smear campaigns against me, belittle me, one poured its water bottle on my backpack, make belittling and denegrating comments about whatever I said, did etc, one tried to push me, but I pushed it back. When I told one of them that she started a smear campaign against me, she claimed "I was concerned" I replied back "yeah, about yourself" Funnily enough, that same one ended at first tried to be friends with me, and even after the smear campaigns she tried to "compliment" me just to mess with me honestly. That one and her friend were covert narcs. Their other friend was a malignant and antagonistic narc. All three of them thought they're better than everyone else and I could go on about what all they did, but I prefer to not make this longer than it already is.
No. 2086279
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I’ve struggled with anorexia for about a decade. It’s my coping mechanism. After being active on edtwt for a few months, I’ve realized that other adult anorexics and bulimics are the some of the most whiny, narcissistic, and overall just emotionally delayed people that exist. I have to admit that I am whiny myself, but goddamn these people are pathetic. A lot of them are creepy too and encourage/interact with teenagers on there. I’m very ashamed that I let myself mirror the whiny mindset of other adults in that community.
No. 2086459
I cannot stand autists, aspies and anyone who self-identifies as neurodivergent ESPECIALLY if they’re a moid. I have a soft spot for female autists (the legit ones, not the ones who self-id to be uwu quirky).
More specifically, I despise the woke liberal culture that coddles people on the spectrum, where you’re ableist if you dare say they should make an effort to pick up social skills and adhere to social norms. Idk, there is something about autists who follow this culture that makes them raging narcissists. Suddenly everything has to be about them being ND, and you’re exclusionary if you say otherwise. For example, a lady on IG made a reel where she gave no-nonsense career advice for how to succeed in a normie workplace. Self-professed ND people in the comments reeeeeeee about how she’s so ableist because how dare she lecture them on social norms and insist they mask in order to fit in. It was very obvious her advice was directed to normies, ie neurotypicals, but all the NDs in the comments made everything about themselves and acted as if her advice was a personal insult, that she was an oppressor for pointing out common sense like “say hi, be sociable and smile at work to make yourself likeable”
Yes, I don’t deny it’s draining to mask and that social norms can be awfully byzantine (especially normie female-only spaces) but what I can’t stand is the underlying narrative of “the world must rearrange its social norms to understand my needs, other people need to be infinitely understanding of me, and if you insist otherwise you’re ableist” that’s encouraged by the present culture. That’s just plain entitlement. If anything that’s the exact opposite mindset you want to encourage for NDs to get by in an NT world.
No. 2086527
>>2086459>a lady on IG made a reel where she gave no-nonsense career advice for how to succeed in a normie workplace. Self-professed ND people in the comments reeeeeeee about how she’s so ableist because how dare she lecture them on social norms and insist they mask in order to fit in.….Yeah this is my issue. Some of the people I know that fit into this category drive me insane with their entitlement, as you said. Oh boo hoo, you have to "mask", AKA, not be a fucking asshole, blurting out inappropriate or random things to people without considering their feelings. One time I asked a person to not come into my house and immediately comment on whatever sensory issue they have, because the way they say it hurts my feelings (I expressed that to them) and their response was "Oh well I don't want to have to mask in a place where I should feel safe" Okay, so basically fuck me and my feelings, I just have to put up with whatever bullshit comes out of your mouth.
Another instance, same person got ANGRY AT ME because they got less of a refund on the crap they bought at the store than I did. They were shaking/crying/angry while telling me this, and then said "Because unlike me, you don't really need the money" OMG BITCH YES I DO! YOU THINK I JUST HAVE MONEY LYING AROUND?The shit that enrages me the MOST, is when people tell you to "call them out/keep them accountable with kindness" because they're 'autistic'. No, YOU need to stop controlling every reaction to your shitty behavior and ACCEPT that other people, including OTHER neurodivergent people, are bothered by!
Basically, this bitch was telling me "I'm autistic (self DX) and as a result, I shouldn't be expected to do anything to learn on my own, I need everyone else to do it for me, and I probably won't change if you call me out! And I'm going to get mad if you call me out in a way that hurts my feelings, even though you're calling me out for MY shitty behavior!"
They recently contacted me asking to hang out, and I explained I didn't want to have a close relationship with them. Here's what they said to me that pissed me off:
>"I'm going to need communication and clarification … I'm working on self-validation and trust but sometimes I will need validation … i need people in my life who can be direct with me about how they feel and hold me accountable with compassion and are open to ongoing conversations about each others' boundaries and needs … I'm learning how to balance and feel safe in both self and co-regulation, so I need people who are open to that part of my journey"The validation they're looking for is constant reassurance I'm not angry at them. The boundaries they want an ongoing discussion about consist of them doing nothing for anyone else and asking friends to respect all their weird rules and demands. The "co-regulation" is essentially a psych-talk way of saying "I need you to bear the weight of my emotions and be nice to me when I hurt your feelings". I have never been so pissed at a former friend before. I feel like I'm being hoodwinked.
Wait, last thing, before I end this post. This motherfucker told me when I first met them that they HATE when people are passive-aggressive, so they will pretend they don't understand what a person wants unless they say it directly or outright. Not that they don't understand social cues, but that they don't want to. A year later they're self-diagnosed autistic. Fuck them. I think they're playing a long con where they exert control over everyone so they don't have an oopsie poopsie about their fucked up feelings and feel responsible about it without blaming someone else.
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No. 2086746
>>2086527>Oh boo hoo, you have to "mask", AKA, not be a fucking asshole, blurting out inappropriate or random things to people without considering their feelings>I shouldn't be expected to do anything to learn on my own, I need everyone else to do it for me, and I probably won't change if you call me out! >…saying "I need you to bear the weight of my emotions and be nice to me when I hurt your feelings"Your friend sounds so emotionally draining, I'm sorry that you had to put up with their constant guilt tripping and lack of consideration. People like your friend subject others to their lack of self-awareness and then they're all shocked pikachu face when people want to distance themselves from them. When you tell them how they come across to outsiders, they take it as a personal attack.
>I think they're playing a long con where they exert control over everyone I don't blame you for thinking that, especially if they're surrounded by yes-men enablers. But your friend is in for a rude awakening if they try to pull that bs in the real world. Your coworkers don't care if you need validation or holding you accountable with compassion (read: treating you like a kid), if you don't do your job and you're difficult to work with then that's a recipe for getting fired. I had an older lady coworker who got diagnosed later in life and while she meant well, there were lots of times she acted inappropriately or blurted out things. Thankfully she didn't buy into the woke infantilizing people with autism bs, but she was just unable to take any type of criticism gracefully which was imo why the management eventually let her go. That's why the "other people must unconditionally accept me the way i am" mindset you see in people like your friend is practically setting up ND people for self-sabotage.
No. 2086837
>>2086746my bad for doubleposting but to continue my rant: the self-sabotage of the "other people must work tirelessly to accommodate my individual quirks so i can placate my need for validation" mindset extends to relationships too. Let's be real, most people don't want to be in a long term relationship with someone who requires constant validation and coaching for what other people consider common sense. Moids as they are are already coddled so much, which is why I find it so difficult to muster sympathy for scrotes on the spectrum who have dating and relationship troubles. Being in a relationship with an autistic scrote basically guarantees you're going to be his therapist / mommy to some degree, especially if he is undiagnosed.
For example, in a mental health group I was in, OP posted about her undiagnosed husband; she felt sad because she wanted him to be a source of emotional support but even getting him to understand why people react the way they do in situations required lots of hand holding and explanation. IMO to add insult to injury, they were the stereotypical example of the nerd who scored a Stacy (she was the outgoing party type while he was the homebody nerd type) while she "settled". I commented that he should put in the effort to learn social skills to meet her needs and that she shouldn't be made to feel arrogant that she told it like it is: he lucked out by getting a prettier, more outgoing girl and he should feel grateful for it. Of course, a self-processed ND person takes offense to this - how dare I assume that he isn't already in therapy! Non-understanding people like you are what I need to put up with everyday! How dare a woman imply she is superior since she's objectively more desirable in the dating market! Getting undiagnosed scrotes to understand common sense social norms is already an uphill battle - getting them to go to therapy and muster the labor to improve is like moving a mountain. Again, NDs of the entitled sort will usually find a way to interpret something as a personally targeted insult. I noticed they often cannot distinguish between statements that are meant to be observations versus statements that are an assessment of that person's value as a human being. Obviously, not being as physically attractive or socially savvy doesn't make you an inherently inferior human being but people who are more attractive, socially skilled, wealthy, etc tend to be more desired in the dating scene and hence have a wider range of options.
And for the people out there who still think "give socially awkward guys a chance! what they lack in social skills they make up for in kindness and patience!" - I have so many stories of socially awkward Nice Guy (TM) scrotes who ended up being nightmares but this rant is long enough as is.
No. 2087576
>>2087096Unfortunately, this behavior isn't in a vacuum, so this person avoids picking up on any social cues or indications that maybe they're being bossy, annoying, obnoxious, or rude. This "admission" of theirs made me realize that it's not that they CAN'T pick up on social cues, it's that they WON'T, and although passive aggressive people deserve that treatment IMO, this person is also passive aggressive. I'm sorry, I'm going to complain about them more here in an example:
>ex friend gone all weekend>I clean the house AND declutter it>work every day except the weekend and have to bring trash to the dump>ex friend knows my work schedule and knows the dump schedule>did decluttering on the one day the dump wasn't open, couldn't bring it to the dump after work because it's closed then>ex-friend comes back from trip, texts me passive aggressive message about why there's so much trash. >I respond: "yeah I cleaned this weekend and decluttered everything.">their response: "yea well I've been gone all weekend so I don't know why there's so much trash" yeah bitch, I know you were gone all weekend. I'm not asking you to take out the trash. You're just mad it wasn't gone by the time it came back. >passive aggressively complains to their boyfriend while I'm working in the other room>eventually I come out after seething and tell them "I think you're being passive aggressive. I'll bag up the trash more but I can't bring it until I have time" >"oh yeah anon I was being passive aggressive haha sorry!"Cue this bitch NEVER taking the trash to the dump because it might make their car stink. I fucking hate this fake bitch. Sigh…
No. 2087587
>>2087576>it's not that they CAN'T pick up on social cues, it's that they WON'TTrue, although genuine 'tists can learn to (with conscious effort) recognise passive-agressive behaviour from other people by certain words they use, but this person just seems like a massive hypocrite.
>"oh yeah anon I was being passive aggressive haha sorry!"Makes sense why they're your
ex-friend.
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The majority of other anorexics are exhausting and need to get a grip. Another post was, “My sister who was born early, SIX DAYS AGO, being smaller than me.”
No. 2098230
>>2098155Plenty. I've known a few diagnosed with it that were basically sexually moral puritanists and would attention seek by being basically a mini version of a tradwife. Arguably they're worse than the annoying obese ethots who think they're super hot
>>2098181Jesus Christ this
triggered me on the children's behalf kek. Imagine having THAT as a parent. Next they'll be sharing purging tips with their kids when they become teenagers.
No. 2098327
>>2098181The eating disorder communities and individuals who post stuff that clearly just validates, encourages, and
triggers themselves and others under the guise of “harm reduction” really annoy me. They’re literally giving each other ideas, tips, telling them they look good, validating & praising their disordered habits, etc, while calling it harm reduction. The stupidity… Just be honest and say you’re proana.
No. 2099644
idk if this is part of an illness but seeing this shit in two people who don't even know about one another made me think and I'm pretty sure that people that aren't fucked up don't do this:
Basically it's claiming mental illnesses and malingering and not being consistant, just to see how far can they go before someone can call them out. I've met two people who claimed personality disorders and went with it for years and years until they were too deep into it for making any sense (claiming the disorder for years and not a single day of therapy, meds etc, purely living on approval, at least normal malingerers try to make it believable) and then when people got sick of it they magically healed the next day and expected people to believe, doing it so suddenly and without thinking twice about getting that mask off and then claiming to be troons, constantly talking about troonism, of course they don't even have a diagnosis (which I know gender dysphoria is a bogus diagnosis but again, normal malingerers will go anywhere to make anything believable) and they seem to be so smug and clever about it, it makes my blood boil because they are so retarded and they think that everyone being tired of them means that they believe it. It takes a single person to tell them that they don't believe it for them to suddenly change problem and jump on the next one. Why do they do this? What do they gain? attention? They lost all of their friends because they became insufferable, what the fuck? How they can be ok with it?
No. 2101204
>>2100564>I wish the image of OCD people being "perfectionists" would end. They're usually only perfectionistic about a handful of random things, and the rest of their life is a stinking cesspool.Unfortunately that's the case with the people with OCD I've known. They have been the messiest people I know, they live in actual disgusting filth. It kinda makes me wonder if the executive dysfunction came first, everything around them got so dirty that their brains short-circuited and they hyper focus on the one single thing (but usually a few) they actually COULD keep clean. I mean if you regularly drive in a car with moldy napkins then it makes sense that touching food with your bare hands seems gross, because you were touching moldy things a minute ago.
The worst part is for some reason they refuse to get help to clean up. I get it's probably part of the disorder, but my girl you are sleeping next to cat shit every night!
No. 2101433
>>2101407Sadly, BPD is over diagnosed in women because the moment you don't act like a stereotypical trad silent girly, many older (and male) psychiatrists just slap the BPD label and that's it, without studying what actually implies. Male could manifest the same exact symptoms, textbook devastating cluster b, but they will most likely let walk out with an autism/asperger diagnosis when it's actually BPD, so women go around and try to romanticize BPD because they don't actually know what being a bippie means. They don't know about the limited empathy, the conditional love (they esp love claiming that BPD implies big emotions and while it's true, all the emotions are conditional and inconsistent), the paranoia, the rage outbursts, lying, self harm and attention seeking behaviour.
If there's something that immediately makes me clock a bippie is their absolutist and self limited point of view: since they don't have empathy, they cannot put themselves in other's shoes so they talk using only their experience, like saying: how I see the world is how the world is.
If they accuse you of cheating it's because they're the ones cheating, for example if you come home later due to job stuff or you met a friend on the way home and they don't have a job or friends, they cannot build up in their minds so yeah, it's definitely cheating and you're a liar because they're the ones who used to cheat and lie.
How can you not like their favourite foods or shows They're so good! What do you mean you don't like to argue? They argue as a way of checking if you still love them, so why you don't do it in the same way? What are you hiding? You don't love them enough to randomly argue and to check it yourself? Wow nonna, you're such a narc for wanting silence! I use the silent treatment for punishing people when I'm mad, what do you mean you are silent because you have to wind down after work? Are you hiding something from me? Are you mad at me? How can you like the silence???
It's all so fucking tiring and most girls I see online sharing those "Beautiful Princess Disorder" memes or tiktoks don't know jack shit about actual bpd.
No. 2110635
People who claim they can’t brush their teeth or shower regularly because of depression sicken me. Brushing your teeth takes 2 mins each time and showering maybe 10 minutes. So many of them are capable of spending hours each say putting on shitty makeup, going to restaurants, whining on twitter, blowing money on stupid kawaii junk, but not 2 minutes for brushing your teeth? Showering maybe I understand and at worst you get like sores or something but those are more easily treatable than weakened and shattered teeth and root canals. Anorexic, bulimic, and binge eaters all get a ton of shit for how they look, for having damaged teeth (even if they care for them otherwise), for being severely underweight, for being obese and it’s just an accepted thing to shit on them… but spoiled “depressed” people who not only fuck up their appearance but make it harder for other people to be around them because of their shit hygiene? Tons of them are NEETs living with parents and have no concept of how fucking expensive teeth are, I have no sympathy for them.
No. 2112407
>>2110635I actively feel so much worse if I don't shower. Some days I don't wash my hair cuz of oil buildup but the smell of my own sweat actively disgusts me so much I feel like I'm suffocating if I go without a shower especially during depressive phases.
Teeth brushing I'm a little worse with, but not doing it period makes me feel the utmost amount of grime.
I don't get people who say they're too depressed to be clean. Like it's going to make you feel better to be dirty?
No. 2124350
>>2113367I've been thinking about this more, and what truly irritates me about people with BPD asking me to have empathy/be aware of their dysregulation is that they will never, ever reciprocate. Rather, the person I specifically had an unfortunate relationship with would always make it clear that they needed special treatment rather than consideration. Maybe it's
toxic of me to only want friendships where other people can reciprocate, but it's almost like you unintentionally take on the role of "caretaker" over time as you get closer to a person with BPD. So when the waterworks start and they start making excuses / alluding to their dysregulated emotional state for the shitty way they treat people, my empathy is turned off completely. It's like, how dare you act like my well being, my feelings, my thoughts, my boundaries, are all lesser to yours, and therefore not worth consideration. With this same person. I was also expected to bring up my complaints in a way that wouldn't dysregulate them further. So I had to manage my own emotions AND theirs, even when they did things that actually hurt my feelings.
Oh I'm sorry, this bitch says they have autism, so sorry! not bpd, just super special autism that nobody can criticize because it makes them neurodivergent and you can't be held accountable for your actions when you're neurodivergent!
No. 2124410
>>2124350they're in arrested development emotionally. they essentially want you to parent them so they can grow up, like a child.
worse is when they project and act like the roles are reversed and that they're secretly the ones who have to take care of everything while you're the
toxic one.
No. 2125230
>>2124890My problem with them is that they lump in too many things that have no similarity. e.g. if autism, bipolar, idk schizophrenia and avpd get all classified as "neurodivergent", it leads to people thinking symptoms of one can be convergently implied to another and hence a shit ton of misinformation.
you have TikTok kids thinking their schizo hallucinations are autism, or that their ADHD causes mania which is a bipolar thing, etc
No. 2129768
>>2129272>You ended a friendship? You were actually abusing them this whole time and they were the one who ended it.why is it always this exact scenario lmao, it's like they'll die if they don't get the to have the last word and control over everything in a relationship. like they value that control more than the actual friendship.
i recently had drama with a bpd friend of mine and had to block him after he kept writing incriminating messages about drugs to me out of nowhere that were seriously stressing me out. asking him to stop only made him do it more to get a reaction out of me, like a child getting their hands on a sharp object and running away with it. and then i found out later he claimed to others that he blocked me because i was being soo mean to him lmfao.
No. 2135398
>>2129885that just sounds like her dumping her own guilt on you while still asserting that her actions/the situation is your fault. it makes you lose all trust when they do this. like how will you ever know their actual intentions when they keep doing helicopter rotor blade speed 180s on everything. you never know if they like and care about you but have problems that get in the way of relationships, or if they actually genuinely hate you. every fight with them is such a confusing rollercoaster.
i have a lot of friends with mental illness and a lot of them will do you wrong but still acknowledge it and show self awareness and authentic well meaning toward you. not everyone has to be a perfectly loyal angel with no issues. but bpds are seriously so disingenuous it gets hard to keep forgiving them really fast, you just sort of start to distance yourself from them emotionally because nothing they ever say really mean anything
No. 2139197
>>2135398In my experience, only non-veteran PTSD/C-PTSD and cluster b personality disorders lack a self awareness and won't acknowledge what they did was wrong. They always have to be the
victim. Constant inferiority complex on the inside, but a superiority and
victim complex on the outside. If they bully and/or abuse you, it's everyone else's fault but their own.
No. 2140521
>>2139781Ayrt. I never experienced that personally, but I wouldn’t be surprised if that does happen.
>>2140023I’ve heard some of them sometimes beat the crap out of somebody when they hear fireworks, but I never experienced it personally. Regardless, that is inexcusable.
No. 2148383
>>2125230I'm sick and tired of Cluster Bs attempting to call themselves neurodivergent to claim sympathy or suffering points. Being an abuser who melts down at anyone breathing near you and thinks you're incapable of doing anything wrong is not a disability.
Mfw the self diagnosed npdfag says he's just spicy neurodivergent so that excuses him breaking an AVO to harass his ex.
No. 2148467
>>2139197i agree. a lot of bpds also claim ptsd (or cptsd which is just as fake as DID but anyway) and while they surely can have trauma their personality disorder is the root problem fucking up their life and the lives of people around them. i also feel like bpds in general will just claim any and all disorders because they want to be a
victim so bad and also can't read about a phenomenon without absorbing it as their new identity immediately.
No. 2148570
>>2148467cptsd is a set of symptoms rather than its own disorder but the truly awful thing is that bpdfags are in denial. A lot of women get diagnosed with bpd when they're actually neurodivergent or just have a trauma response because it's the modern day hysteria and they "accept" it, try to diagnose a moid with bpd and he will go into a full blown denial fit saying that he's the sane one and everyone is mean to him for…reasons, proving exactly his point by having fits. Many "autists" are just bippies who resist therapy and are often non collaborative in sessions (by giving half replies or ignoring you or not showing up at all), if more doctors could have the time to actually study moids more, they will see that bpd is just as common in them as in women. Bippies want to be
victims but not the bad
victim.
No. 2157754
>>2157750If anything op sounds like the mentally ill one.
>tehy are poisoning the space around them with soundwaves filled with their weird emotionsLike, hm? What?
No. 2157769
>>2157712Yes a family member
>>2157750You know visual thinking is still thinking nonna? But in a way yes, some people overthink to the extreme. It's not a good to hear a voice in your head all the time, does the pricipal of meditation ring a bell?
>>2157754What you put out is influencing the space and people around you. Words are powerful.
>>2157757I have very little of internal monologue, because i don't need it. I'm not saying having it is bad, it's normal when it's in a healthy range, as it is normal to have little of it in a healthy range. There's a normal amount of thoughts and ideas in my head, they just don't have words to them, they are like flashes of videos.
No. 2158010
>>2157998It's actually about your mom who was my ex
nonnieMy mom was good and I've never dated a bpd though, I'm referring to a lot of bpd parents online posting their cow behaviours around their kids under the guise of "bpd awareness and healing"
No. 2159219
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I know ripping on bpd is the hot topic but yeah I hate these mfs too. I always kept a specific middle school friend at arms length because I knew she had something up with her. They are simultaneously egotistical as fuck while also extremely insecure at the same time. The amount of times I've heard these types say some shit like "Oh I could do xyz if I wanted to." Then never do it. They are more than happy to be jobless and catered to by the people around them. The amount of times they'll ramble on about a new person/friend/crush to you as if they are this perfect person then once the new person wises up and gets away from the bpdemon, they're suddenly the worst person ever and all of their flaws are dropped on you with whiplash. They all think everyone else has hours to waste in a call for them to talk about themselves the entire time, but we don't because we have lives and a job. It feels like she just absorbs traits, likes/dislikes from people she idolizes at the time. This bitch is in her 30s and still cares about "being cool" and talking to "other cool people".
To the bpdumbasses that come to this thread, get a life and stop ruminating over the past. Stop stalking your exes and past friends. Stop blaming your parents for why you are the way you are. You're aware of your problems and choose to do nothing about it. Get the fuck off social media, stop opening your legs and sending nudes to anyone who talks to you for more than two days. You're not as cute or hot as you think you are and I know you'll hold on to any negative comment made about your appearance for years on end. We know you'll never get better or help because being a professional victim has become your career. Btw, everyone knows you're the problem.
No. 2166148
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I know that shitting on BPD is easy but a lot of times these people make it so hard for others because they actually believe they are the victim of some unknown presence. BPD is mostly egosyntonic, meaning they feel no shame in it unless it's time to fish for pity.
>Always feeling guilty
If they truly felt guilt, they wouldn't have these fit of rage and always think twice. Guilt is part of anxiety disorders and anxious people are very well known overthings, bippies are basically rage monkeys with not even a self to reflect to
>The abily of cutting someone out blablabla
Nah, it's very well know that they get obsessed with people and often do push pull dynamics out of boredom and even if they split completely, they're always talking about someone. My ass
>Mental Fog
most likely, mental blindess and the inability to take accountability
>always in crisis
Indeed but yet don't do shit to get out, even resisting therapy
>Never feel secure or safe
While making unsafe environments for their loved ones with blackmailing, smear campaigns, violence, beatings
>Not able to tolerate your own company
Grow the fuck up lol
>Psychotic Episodes
And why should I care
>Addicting coping mechanisms
"save me!! I'm an addict, I cut/do drugs/have unsafe sex but it's not me!! It's the illness!!"
>Never feeling understood
Yet not making an effort
>"We're just cuddly puppies that want love!"
Then act like it. For the kind of people that cannot feel love (because love is also empathy which they don't have, narcs don't have empathy, that's what makes them narcs and bippies are retarded narcs) they sure are entitled as fuck. For them being obsessed with someone, skinwalking them, craving their constant attention and total control over them is love. Fuck them. Love is respecting people, they don't.
Social media worsened this people.
No. 2166156
>>2166148When their entire childhood is filled with dysfunctional relationships they never truly learn how to connect with people. The same way you can't teach an illiterate man how to read by dumping a dictionary in front of him, you can't expect bpds to love by loving them in return. They're just as likely to dish out the abuse as they claim to be
victim to it.
No. 2166158
>>2166148What makes me livid about this is that stalkers and abusers are almost always bpd men who don't feel a gram of guilt or feeling out of place but most importantly they don't want love, they want control. Stalkers don't feel guilty about calling someone over and over, ringing their bell over and over even in the night, about making sockpuppet accounts, smearing campaings…they don't.
How come you're so desperate for love but nobody loves you? Don't you think maybe there's a reason, hmm? This picture REEKS of no self reflection, a certified bippie classic.
No. 2166163
>>2166158Leading on from your point, it always makes me laugh when they pull the "I feel so guilty all the time uwu" card because they never explain
why. Perhaps there's a reason you constantly have such a guilty conscience and nobody to confide in kek.
No. 2168086
Someday I could write a 10 page essay about my first job when I worked for 2 whole years in an office and my only coworker was a woman twice my age with bipolar disorder who began treating me like her therapist. She completely attached herself to me and even told me several times about how much she loved me for always listening to her and giving her life advice (I was finishing my degree and she was 40 years old with a husband and teenage children… Also I didn’t see her as anything more than just my coworker and tried to keep it that way on my end, but was too naive and tolerant to stand my ground). She was extremely sensitive and would start crying over every slightest inconvenience at work and was quick to give me the silent treatment on the days I didn’t go out for lunch with her for whatever reason. When we were alone at the office she would just fill every particle of silence with endless stories about her manic episodes, past cocaine addiction and toxic relationships, her bizarre childhood and all the trauma caused by her absent alcoholic mother. She cheated on her husband more times than I can count and always blamed this shitty behavior on her hypersexuality caused by the bipolar disorder. Her two sons were adopted teenage brothers, she met one of them at the school she used to teach at years before and also have affairs with older repeat students and male teachers. Despite all that she was a member of the evangelical church and genuinely believed she was a good person. Every day of my life became the most uncomfortable and stressful experience ever, I was scared of setting boundaries because of her sensitive and melodramatic temper, I felt like I was walking over eggshells around her all the time. I told her several times she needed to see a psychiatrist and a psychologist, but she would always say she was actually good because her sister, who was a doctor, gave her prescriptions for lithium and I was already her therapist so she didn’t need a real one. I was too young to be having to deal with that shit, it was a shame because apart from that woman the job was really easy and paid well, but I just reached a point where I couldn’t take her presence in my life anymore and left. To be honest sometimes I feel like a magnet for bipolar people, because my one and only ex boyfriend was bipolar too and and had a huge manic episode right after we broke up where he almost had an overdose after mixing every kind of hallucinogenic drug there is to reach some kind of mindfulness or whatever and ended in the hospital room for a few days because he beat himself up while tripping. I also used to have a bipolar best friend who eventually became a carbon copy of me and mirrored literally every step and decision I made for myself and saw me as a personal property or god or anything that wasn’t an actual human being who existed outside of her perception.
No. 2168125
>>2168119most people have no idea what mental retardation is truly like and their idea of autism is literally sheldon from the big bang theory. they're stupid thinking autism is just ~le quirky cuteness hehe such a dork~
t. have family member with full blown mental retardation. general population has no idea how bad it is. sorry you had to grow up with that
No. 2168163
>>2168125Yeah, I hear the constant "Ooo young sheldon! I bet he knows everything!" and I have to force myself to smile. I have close friends who understand.
>>2168148I was often asked by his inclusion teachers "Can I borrow you to help calm him down?" because he would throw paint at the walls.
>>2168150I moved out a long time ago. He's in his mid twenties like I am. My mom is pissed at my youngest brother and I for not wanting to take care of him when they die. My dad wants to put him in a group home so it strained my parents marriage. I no longer visit.
No. 2169816
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Of course, the rare and exceptional BPDfags who are self-aware and persistent with being a functional person are exempt from this, but I am of the opinion/theory that when bippies use their denial of all the bad karma they racked up from being pure garbage, it's actually a coping mechanism to save them from themselves. You know how when you think about your actions and realize that you should have done something differently, or reacted better, and feel guilty/remorseful that you unnecessarily hurt someone's feelings and you want to learn and make things better/different for the circumstance and the other person? What if when bippies keep denying ever doing/saying anything out of place and overall try to run from accountability in their relationships, they do it because deep down inside, they know that they fucked up way too many times from being genuinely monstrous individuals, but feel like they have to keep telling themselves that they never do anything wrong because if they ever truly look in the mirror and finally swallow the pill of how awful they actually are with the destruction they have caused, the guilt and remorse would fuck them up so bad that they would have a psychological implosion that puts them at the brink or in the dead zone of trying to take their own lives from pure, raw humiliation and shame?
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>>2169816I agree with you, it'd cause cognitive dissonance so bad they'd fucking explode kek. was reading Understanding the Borderline Mother the other day and I found this. They literally can't remember because their brains are so fried. I think it's a combo of self protection and literally forgetting tbh. I never want to be around another BPDfag ever again.
No. 2169976
>>2169835People like this still believe they're the
victims and therapists out there aren't telling them the truth out of fear they will off themselves, they're helpers of crime.
No. 2170583
>>2170249self aware bpds are not a thing. bpd by definition are not self aware because they lack a self to begin with lol so what are they aware of? If they were truly aware they would simply stop with their bullshit.
They just use twittard tier escaping techniques, and posts like
>>2166148 to trick others that they're like some sort of possessed entities and they have no control over their very person. Bitch who controls you then? People should stop saying "it's not you, it's the illness!"
Mental illness, esp. personality disorders ARE a person. That's the "personality" part. They are their disorder.
No. 2171465
>>2171430Often. I also think some disorders are worsened by coddling and lack of anything better to worry about. We evolved in a state of needing to secure our survival, so I think a lot of "first world" disorders come from people inadvertently giving themselves something to occupy their minds.
For autism specifically, I believe that some (not a lot!) amount of "get over it" and exposure is necessary for growth. I have a lot of autistic friends and there's such a difference between the ones who had stricter parents who accepted that their kid was autistic but still required them to try new things even if it's hard, versus the ones whose parents excused them out of everything after the first hurdle because of the 'tism. My friends in the former cohort all know how to drive, can somewhat care for themselves, and can talk to the fast food worker without having a breakdown; the same can't be said for the latter group.
No. 2172030
>>2172025They all fall under the mental condition umbrella and no one in the thread is calling all bad people bippies, we knew very much that bippies have a specific set of traits. Lurk more.
Where in the world isn't addiction a mental disorder lmao, what is it, then? Psyop? Haunting? Possession?
No. 2172229
>>2172025Sorry
nonny but I don't care if someone is mentally ill, disordered, or developmentally disabled; if they're insufferable due to their condition, I'm going to talk about it itt.
>>2172052>Asperger's wouldn't matter if you have to help your parents on the farm or you are part of a small community who just accept that you are a little odd.This is absolutely true. I feel like "aspie" autists had an easier time back when communities were small enough that all hands were needed on deck and it didn't matter if someone was a little weird so long as they could do the work. Those autists were also more likely to do weird but potentially useful shit like document every unique insect species they see whereas today all of that energy gets funneled into vidya and other useless pursuits.
>Also, the whole point of it was that they were threatened by the fact that there was a group of people who wouldn't be as susceptible to propaganda or aren't capable of conforming to social expectations.I hate most autism influencers, but some years back a few of them cottoned onto the idea that many autists were probably religious figures back in the day. Being able to see through propaganda can sometimes make them mistaken for mystics even today, so it was probably moreso back then.
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I hate when people meme-rize shit like this like am I supposed to find this funny? Am I supposed to empathize with you and go aww sowwy? And then they wonder why everyone leaves, they should all find a job.
No. 2177522
>>2177514People with abandonment issues legit make me spaz out. In a way I understand having this fear of getting left behind and cast aside like trash, but
my god is it also so incredibly annoying to be on the receiving end of this behavior. Straight up forced to hold these people's hand and tell them "No I love you bby I won't leave you uwu" every 5 minutes or they'll turn even more guilt trippy and annoying. They claim to be so understanding of you when you want some space and alone time for a few hours but yet the second you dip they start talking about how "everyone leaves them anyways" and post memes like this.
No. 2180507
>>2180012Ayrt I do this too, I think a lot of people do this. But I don't act like this replaces actual interaction with the person and don't mix it up with reality. Meaning she knows I wanted to spend time with her but does it instead like some kind of weird gross mental masturbation and think it's fine on my side because her need has been met. For her every interaction is a one way street it seems, as long as she is satisfied then there is no point in doing anything for someone else. And there is no way I could have been more direct about expressing my needs. And it's not necessarily like she doesn't have time to interact either. She has no job, no real hobbies or activities, basically sits on her ass all day and plays genshin and gets handouts from her entire family for existing.
She used to be much better now she just stopped doing anything and fell into being a full-time retard.
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Why are bpd chans as equally socially retarded as literal autists? I'm so tired.
No. 2197452
>>2197381Tbh I never feel bad for a man who says he’s been the
victim of a BPD woman. BPD men are legitimately dangerous and violent, the worst a BPDette is going to do is scream at you and cry and fuck your best friend or whatever. You’re a man, either handle it or break up with her.
No. 2197961
>>2197452Men love being emotionally abused so they deserve it, honestly. I think men get back with their "psycho ex-girlfriends" more often than women do with
abusive boyfriends.
No. 2197968
>>2197905"But the sex is so good" usually has rapist undertones. I genuinely do not understand how mental illness would make a woman better at sex. Would it magically give her superpowers that let her sense nerve endings or control pleasure better? No.
I want to a-log any moid who dates any type of mentally ill woman and claims this. The sex is only better because she has attachment/parental issues and is terrified of you leaving her and can't say no easily so she'll let you spit on, beat, degrade and act out your rapist fantasies with her.
Try asking one of these pieces of shit why the sex was so much better and they will NEVER give a proper answer.
>>2197966Unironically, Depp was probably more BPD than Heard ever was. Substance abuse, violent behaviour and taking advantage of scenarios like this.
No. 2199575
>>2197381Going on r/bpdlovedones and seeing nothing but hurt people trying to understand what happened to them, and then looking at reactions from people with bpd talking about r/bpdlovedones woke me the fuck up about bpd. They all say it's a blind hate sub, completely ignoring the fact that it's full of people who are just feeling immense pain, meanwhile they expect everyone to take their vicious splits because they're an emotional burn
victim or whatever. I was once so hurt by someone with BPD over me losing my mind due to abuse that I genuinely thought it was all my fault and anyone with BPD is a hurt traumatized angel and if I upset them then it's 100% my fault because they're innocent and can do no wrong. I was that brainwashed, they're THAT fucking good at gaslighting and running smear campaigns.
>>2197452Idk, I saw someone post texts on r/bpdlovedones where a mother was threatening to kill herself in front of their child because the dad used a bit of her soap or something.
No. 2201233
>>2158737Late reply but based. I think if you want to diet or starve to achieve a skinnier look for personal aesthetic purposes, that doesn't fit anorexia. It kind of irks me whenever people assume this, I think. Real anorexics (and bulimics) are pieces of shit who always have to bring up their ED every chance they get and are huge crybully types.
>at least I'm gonna fit in my coffin uwu>at least I'm not fat and ugly like you uwuTheir entire perceptions of bodies are warped, they view the world through a cartoon art style lens at this point. They expect a waist to be smaller than a head, no ribs, no organs, no nothing.
No. 2201363
>>2201342>It’s even more wild that sometimes schizophrenia can develop a lot later in lifeit can also be
triggered by drug use. i think you have to be predisposed to it somehow but genes can get activated or whatever.
No. 2201384
>>2201363Yeah a surprising amount of posters say that weed is what
triggered the person they’re caring fors schizophrenia. I do wonder what the difference between drug induced psychosis is and just having the dormant schizophrenia in your brain
triggered by drugs. I know drug psychosis is more transient ex. Someone is a hardcore meth head and they are in a constant state of psychosis but then they get clean for a year and are back to being normal.
No. 2210757
It has been said but it can't be said enough, BPDemons, they should never be allowed to have kids.
The selective amnesia, the jump from attacking you to playing the victim, the constant screaming at you for the most mundane shit and being mad you can't read their mind, pushing everyone away because they disagreed with them once, treating everything as some sort of scheme. The suicide baiting too holy shit, at some point I just said "do it then" and she stopped baiting kek.
Their enablers are also awful, "why won't you let it go? It was so long ago" "You know how she is" "But she loves you so much", the worst part is they don't deal with the bippie and don't wanna to so they push her onto you with this bullshit, as soon as they have to deal with the bpdemon they drop her too.
No. 2210795
>>2202043Alot of the bpdloved ones or the narc in my life type support subs are hugboxes that rely on the 'trust me guys' effect where you hear one side of a story and even if something smells way off, like
>>2206585There's rules stopping you from ever questioning it cause well that'd be further victimizing the ultimate
victim.
Men who act like dating a woman who cried alot is their trauma now, that they were patient saints the whole time and she'd 'just freak out for no reason' while I was the best and most gentle bf. People with bpd moms who sound like lil mini-me bpders themselves and rage about their mom not addressng her shit while they look pretty set to repeat the cycle. I get they don't want assholes nitpicking for the hell of it but it's way too 'trust me guys it happened like this' on a site that's well known for made up and embelished stories.
No. 2211419
>>2210816it literally never is. personality disordered parents literally teach their child their own lack of emotional regulation and social skills. someone over the age of 18 still at home and bitching about them needed to move out if they wanted to do that instead of relying on them and then bitching. people like that always say their
toxic fights with their parents don’t count cos of their PDs and that it isn’t the real world and doesn’t count. but guess what. the real world is full of people with personality disorders who are going to “
trigger” these supposedly un disordered kids into acting disordered like they do with their parents. and your interactions with your parents count more than anything besides with your children.
No. 2238370
>>2238354What kind of frustration expresses itself by wanting to commit genocide? It's lunacy, not frustration
The genocide thing is not current, it's in the past, I guess you'd call it a fleeting expression of circumstance
But these are still the same people with the same insanity
No. 2255779
idk if it's bpd, npd but I can't stand dramatic people that talk like a movie. One time I dated a moid for a few times and either he got his dating advices from shitty instagurus or his personality was copypasted from sappy movies and I cringed.
Also as a teen I thought that those movies were bullshit but one time I had my shit to do instead of a date and this moid went something like this, in the chat.
>Oh…
>…
>Nonna I don't…
>So I don't mean anything, huh…
>Nonna.
>I'm putting all of me into making this work
Why the fuck are you talking and texting with dramatic movie tier pauses lmao stop do you think that's cute or anything? No it's cringe
And listen, I hate dry texting or better to say, people that don't know how to write but if someone starts to text shit like
>…
Get the fuck away because they're just playing a bad actor
I've also noticed this pattern in clearly disrupted people or people with personality disorder, since they cannot "develop" a genuine one they put on masks but forget the humanity. A clearly upset person doesn't write like a book character but takes a moment to properly reply their feelings if they care about being understood, these little shits talk like euphoria characters.
I hated when I received those little messages because I know it was The Main Character's time and he already planned all the replies, because if I told him to explain what he meant, he went like "I don't want to argue" meanwhile he was always the one who started shit.
One time, after one of those retarded fits, in which I replied "I'm sorry" and he went the classic way of
"If you were truly sorry you wouldn't act like this!!", so I said
"Let's say that what you think is true: why would I do that? I'm sorry that you feel betrayed but I have a family and friend to see and I work 5/7 a week, day 6 is for you, day 7 is for family and friends (he accused me to avoid him, which eventually I did after a while because they write their own stories), if I truly wanted to avoid you, I wouldn't do all the effort to travel and spend money to you and just makeup some excuses, so? Do you think I'm avoiding you? Do you think I'm wasting my time just to give you an half of illusion?"
He went "I don't have the strenght to argue right now, have a nice night out"
But he was always the one to start shit lol these people are really retarded, if they need to argue just to feel something they can jump off a cliff, stuff irl doesn't happen like the movies
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>the mental to physical illness munchie pipeline
No. 2258281
>>2257317This is more of a case of the medical mental health system falsely diagnosing every woman they see with a turbulent personality as being bpd due to gender bias and stereotyping.
I feel like alot of bpds are just women with NPD, aspd, histrionic or regular anger issues that just got misdiagnosed.
The problem with bpd is that there is such a focus on the angry and unstable aspect that other symptoms get ignored.
No. 2258510
>>2258281It's actually pretty obvious when someone's been misdiagnosed with BPD IME. Some psychiatrists are lazy, don't care, gender stereotype and they spend the least amount of time with a patient of everyone on a team or in a facility. Getting to know the person you will be able to tell if they have BPD or if it's something else, but you can't tell the doctor what to do or how to diagnose. ASPD, HPD and NPD are all in the same cluster so there can be symptomatic overlap; diff PDs can also be comorbid. But overall BPD is as described, manipulative personalities prone to intense emotions with feelings of inner emptiness. They're low on empathy for others and tend to be
abusive in their relationships (whether romantic, platonic, familial).
No. 2258781
>>2257317when I was in a relationship with a bippie he would often scream and cry of me having "me time" after work (it was usually 2-3 hours of me being physically at home engaging in my hobbies) because he didn't see it as "fair, because we live together we must share everything" and he used to call me if I came home late for around 10 minutes, knowing goddamn well that I went to work by public transport and so I cannot control the traffic but when he was away, I used to become ultra paranoid. Why?
One time he went away to visit his family on the other side of the country and cool, that wasn't unusual, he got there, visited his family, stayed for the weeked, came back. I saw him on fb being friends with this girl, he changed his status to being in a relationship with her and when I confronted him about it, he said some shit like "We met each other after years, the spark rekindled" and…I was here? What the fuck? How can you do that, I wasn't sad but actually confused and he wanted to be in a relationship with her while living with me, because to him being long distance wasn't that bad. I never was in his thoughts.
When I started to pack to leave, more confused than anything, he had a fit because he realized his error and blablabla and yes, at the time I was stupid, I was totally in love, call me a moron, I'll accept it but how quick and painless that was for him, without much thinking about it, was horribly baffling.
We got back together sure. At this point, I was the one starting to become paranoid.
Every time he went back to his family, I found myself checking his social media pages, checking every new girl he started to follow/follow him and always lived in a crippling anxiety when he was away. I started to lose sleep, being stressed to the point of clenching my jaw and my doctor said to stop, I had crying fits at work, panic attacks when he wasn't replying immediately to my texts.
I never had BPD but he had and always cried
victim. I thought I was going crazy. When I left him, everything stopped.
They play mind games, lie bust most importantly, the project but since they don't have honest feelings, they see your feelings as a personal attack because they cannot realize the pain of others. He saw my me time as something dangerous because to him was normal and everytime someone talks about bpd or does shit like "BPD awareness month!!" like yeah, I'm very aware of bpd and I shouldn't have been. Fuck you.
No. 2259159
>>2258781similar feeling experiences on my part, anon: undiagnosed highly suspected BPD boyfriend, always miserable when I did something without him, never gave me space even though I told him several times how I like to be alone, wound up living with him and he moved all his shit in boxes into the back room where we could have had a bedroom or office, so there was no place I could lock myself in besides the bathroom. Hiding a drinking problem I couldn't identify until he admitted it after I broke up with him. Never ever hung out with anyone, left to see friends, or do anything that gave me free time, to the point that I would have to insist that I go alone to pick up milk or bread from the store. One time we were fighting and I was pissed and said I was going to take a walk to cool off, I'd be back - I get maybe 100 feet away from the apartment and I turn around and his pinched red face is there, he's following me, and I had to argue with him to get him to go back to the house and leave me the fuck alone so I could walk around in the dark at night without being bothered. The argument that started it was him looking for a charger to something after midnight, and when he couldn't find it, blamed it on me (because I'm the only one that tried to organize/tackle his pile of garbage in the back room). The funny thing is after the long walk and the long argument, he found it in a place where he put it. Didn't apologize. Got upset at me when I didn't want to beg my parents for money after we irresponsibly spent it. He'd call his parents and bitch them out one at a time, and then call his siblings and bitch them out for not helping, and then spiral about all his debt, and resent me for not ruining my relationship with my family by being a leech. He always thought he was smarter than everyone. One final funny story is that I was working on a story where I made fun of Red Pilled men, and then maybe a year later in the midst of me breaking up with him, he sperged out and started crying about how "do you know how you writing that made ME FEEL?" basically hinting to me that he'd been "red pilled" the whole time and I was making him feel guilty by making fun of it so he… thought it was ok to take it out on me. So glad I'm out of that relationship. Every day I hope he wakes up to misfortune and pain.
No. 2260621
>>2260543I hate how some bratty traits are now being medicalized and being seen as personality set in stone traits rather than stuff you can grow out of.
Every kid is "RSD", every person with communication problems are "RSD" and guess what? It's totally fixable with therapy or some self reflection. Medicalizing it only makes it difficult for everyone because it gives out a get out of jail card for being a shithead
Makes me think about "ODD" which is a condition only kids and sociopaths have lol
>>2260605Read the op jfc
No. 2260757
>>2260754I had a coworker who was in a major car accident 20 years ago which broke half the bones in her body. She was known for having a huge temper, constantly being on edge, getting in fist fights with randoms in public, fighting customers, that kind of thing. One day she confided in me that before her accident, she was known for being unusually calm, peaceful, always easygoing and happy, and the accident stole that from her and basically replaced her brain with one that feels constant stress and frustration. It’s really sad. She was a wonderful woman too, even with the anger issues, tbh. She had a good heart and was completely fucked over by the injury.
No. 2262860
>>2262751Agreed, but in my opinion it's not just due to arrested development. For context
I was SA'd by a BPD relative as a kid and to me it's obviously related to how they form relationships, they always try to imprison others so they can have an emotional support dispenser/punching bag/reason to not kill themselves. A child is the perfect vessel for this because you're dependent and cannot easily escape from this situation. This is such a perverse arrangement because in this, the child is nothing but an object for gratification. So it's not surprising that this can progress all the way to sexual gratification. I found a study that suggested cluster B was overrepresented in female sexual offenders, wish there was more research about this. Once you see the 'helicopter cluster B mom' to 'actual rare female pedophile' pipeline you can't unsee it. It's the same with dance/theatre moms, they parade their child around like a desirable object and sexual abuse by them is not unheard of. Boy moms too, it's always about satisfying a sexual/emotional drive through children, a lot of the time it's figurative but it can involve actual sexual abuse.
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>>2262751It's a mix of the two, like this:
>>2262860Speaking from experience, I was abused twice, in various forms, by two bpd men.
The first one was the ex partner of my mother, not my dad, and he played over my guilt, meaning that if I spoke about it me and my mom could be homeless because he would threat that to me and not my mother (clever but they're stupid to the core thinking it will not have consequences) so he did everything to me but played
victim to my mom telling her that I was lying because I wanted my mother only for me and I was jealous of her like are you alright? Did you bonk your head? Of course I wanted to be with my mother because he was a stranger and I was fucking eight years old, he tried to pass it off of me wanting attention from my mother alone and being a burden when in reality he was hurting me and my mother was the only source of comfort. I was eight and he projected his manipulations tactics at me. A child. He tried to put me against my mother so he could abuse me and try to pass me off as a liar so he could get his way with me and get approval from my mother, this is why I don't feel an ounce of pity when older bpd men kill themselves, they deserve it and that's the only good thing they can do.
The second one was an ex boyfriend that "admitted" that he was attracted by helpless people which is fucking weird, looking back and indeed he approached me when I was deep in my depression and yes, I'm also younger than him. My guess is that they also lack the empathy-care link in their moral chain and I think this has to do with some incest cases: adopted kids are more likely to form romantic and sexual relationships with their birth parents because they are attracted to each other but cannot elaborate it in an appropriate relationship and mistake it for romantic love (this is more complicated but to put it simply: since they lack the knowledge for affection and love is only taught in a romantic way, they automatically assume that's the attention) and it's fucked up, this doesn't mean that it's justified but a horrid explanation. Of course, he played over my guilt and couldn't stand the thought of me being happy because I was easier to be manipulated when sad and distressed and when I was happy he was the one that needed attention and he was the sad one, if I was sad he was happy so I could spend time with him because I didn't leave the house. This is deeply fucked up. I wasn't a person to him but a vessel for his own emotions, like a vending machine, he came to me shifting personality, not traits, an entire personality so I could always fulfill his needs, them being approval or attention during his downs and ego stroking during his ups.
On the maturity level, it's true. They cannot relate to people their age because they mature and they don't and mature people don't have time for petty fights and school yard drama because they already went through that stage and they move on, bpd men don't, they always fetch drama, stuff about others to gossip about and when people tell them that they're annoying they get offended because they cannot elaborate why that shit is immature and accuse the others of being boring or uncaring because they feel everything so much!! They have so much empathy, you're the narc that wouldn't engage in trivial stuff and will only think about themselves!
My ex in particular, after splitting up, he went for younger people and I mean very young. He brought home a 17 year old girl, he was 30 going 31 and lied about his age (bpd people also look kinda younger due to their mannerism and until total twink death), after her he only went out to 18to24 parties and brought home a bunch of kids, to, in his words "take care of them" by cooking for them. Yeah sure. One shitty thing he did was accusing me of being a narc because if I cared of people it was only to inflate my ego (his words) so people could tell me I was a good person, it made me so insecure that I started outright ignoring people, meanwhile he would go after, like he did to me, vulnerable people, listen to them for a few times, fuck them and telling lies to attract them and then using them for emotional support, shifting the situation and making them responsible for his violent outbursts. They're projecting not because they're in denial, to imply someone is in denial is to imply that people know the various nuances of various situations and don't want to see the bad side, they don't, they live in a sick tunnel vision and since they live like that, then everyone must live like that and that's why they cannot see over their nose. They're an actual danger to society and the largest perpetrators of abuse and yet don't you dare call them out, you abilist fuck, you don't know it's so hard for them to abuse and come up with imaginary worlds in their hand, you should admire their efforts!
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I am so fascinated by female copycats, especially the ones who try to skinwalk and literally become influencers or their nigel's ex etc
From what people say its a bpdfag thing, but I am so curious to know what the thought process is, do they really think they can just become the other person? Why do they do it? Is it not embarrassing especially when its a moid's ex?
I miss how many copycat cows we used to have like dasha, erin, or the 1000 girls skinwalking dakota
No. 2264209
>>2262860>it's obviously related to how they form relationships, they always try to imprison others so they can have an emotional support dispenser/punching bag/reason to not kill themselves. A child is the perfect vessel for this because you're dependent and cannot easily escape from this situationAyrt, very true. This sort of situation falls under the umbrella I was talking about though because they can't form relationships with other adults (who see through their shit and run) and because as you said, the child is vulnerable, can't escape etc.
Again, I really wish people could critically think about how someone's specific emotional traits or trauma can lead to them being a predator. Try talking about this anywhere and you'll be met with "don't stigmatise BPD! Pedophilia isn't a criterion!" even by the BPD abuse groups who hate BPDs for good reason.
Like, physical abuse, verbal abuse and known things experienced by
victims of BPDs are also not listed dot point criteria in the DSM, yes? But why are those allowed to be spoken about while the slightest mention of grooming and pedophilia is wrong?
No. 2264251
>>2263778I feel you
nonnie. I had an online friend of 10 years who was exactly like that. We would spend literal hours every day talking about her special interest (which I had a normal amount of interest in also) having the exact same conversations over and over and over again for years on end. She didn't care about spoiling me if I hadn't experienced it and would talk about shit that I obviously had no interest in while giving me one line replies if I ever brought up my own separate interests and even called them cringe and stupid. That woman was 30 years old with no job. She had nothing going on in her life other than her special interest and was a mean cunt who hated everyone but was so scared of conflict she was addicted to fandom drama and shittalking people for being fans "the wrong way". I stayed for that long because of my own issues but towards the end I couldn't fucking deal with it anymore, she was in total arrested development and despite being younger than her I wanted to figure out my own life outside of fandom and she didn't take it well. There's nothing worse than an embittered sperg with zero emotional intelligence.
No. 2264264
>>2197968>>2197905Adding onto this, this just proves how privileged men really are. You have female
victims of BPDs who can't leave because of financial issues, societal shame, the BPD's family enabling and going after them with defamation or threats et cetera et cetera. And then you have male "
victims" of "BPDs" who can't leave because they can't find another hole to fuck? God I wish my life was that easy where the only problem in life was being unable to leave my abyoosihv underage girlfriend because she lets me act out my rapist fantasies.
No. 2264287
>>2263558>>2264212>>2263589I think OP is talking about women who stalk and copy their boyfriend’s ex, a friend, or an ex friend. Like a real person who’s somewhat affiliated with them, and not an online persona.
I think it’s extra creepy because of the stalking factor and there’s definitely some mental health problems there.
No. 2264319
>>2264251Ayrt and sorry you had to go through that
nonnie. My friend luckily isn't as bad as yours sounds. She mostly has a good personality and has genuinely tried her best to learn social skills. I just can't stand the way autists go on about their special interests as if it will kill them if someone isn't up for talking about their favourite thing every waking moment of every day. It feels like they sometimes weaponise the "special interest" thing too. It's become a get out of jail free card for them to act self centered, inconsiderate and only talking about the things that personally interest them, fuck anyone else's feelings. You spend hours on end entertaining and validating them and then start to feel like a criminal if you think that maybe you'd like that endless energy and enthusiasm to be reciprocated for once. Nowadays you're a horrible ableist if you don't want to stay up all night talking about some obscure fandom thing you don't really care about, when what you really need is to go to sleep.
Like your ex friend mine is really into fandom drama too. She keeps bringing it up to me in really opinionated ways, even after I have outright told her to stop. I don't use social media so I barely even know who the people involved in the drama are. A lot of it sounds really petty and insignificant to me, and the off chance that I do know what she's on about, I tend to completely disagree with her takes too. I'd never tell her that though or she'd probably get angry at me. I will politely pretend to agree then try and move the conversation along because I hate talking about it.
She's a good friend otherwise. I just wish it didn't feel like our whole friendship hinges on me validating her special interests 24/7.
No. 2264341
>>2264209Right, many of them rely a young mind who doesn't have enough life experience to see what's wrong with their behavior.
I'm stumped by the taboo around pedophilia in these spaces, i had no idea. I guess their logic is 'pedophilia is too horrible, how can you throw that word at this group', but it's really because they don't want to face a difficult problem. Also i bet that some of the '
victims of BPD' are groomers themselves (especially old man-young BPD woman couples) and would be very uncomfortable with these discussions.
>how someone's specific emotional traits or trauma can lead to them being a predatorThere's a crossing from the traumatized person category to the predator category and the fact that some people are both these things at once can be challenging for some. As if being abused and developing a PD means you can't become who hurt you, it's dumb, identifying with your agressor and becoming agressive yourself is a well known consequence of trauma
>>2264319Pet theory (from a sperg) but sometimes a special interest is a good excuse to prevent real, emotional communication from happening, because it can be a great source of anxiety for an autist. So is infodumping, talking impersonally, autists communicate without
communicating. Your friend needs to be told to shut up and listen and allow herself to take in your side of the friendship, make an effort to create a back-and-forth instead of building up a wall. I know autists who are capable of this (even if it's just mutually dumping information), there's no reason for her not to do this.
No. 2264350
>>2264264I have absolutely no sympathy for their male """
victims.""" They psyopped themselves into wilfully seeking out
abusive partners, and then they run to Reddit crying about how they have a million broken bones and feel suicidal daily but "can't bring themselves to leave." It's completely different from an abused and gaslit woman. Even women who DO seek out trash men do it because they're traumatised and it's normal to them, and even then, the moid usually deceives them by acting SOMEWHAT nice or like he'll provide for her. Men happily throw their hands on open flames solely because "but muh dick."
No. 2264405
>>2264319Ayrt thanks nonna. I only realized when I met her IRL for the first time after being friends for a decade that she was completely autistic, it was like the thousands of hours we spent talking about her special interest (and I) meant nothing to her, she was almost robotic in her mannerisms. She only spoke to me if it was about her fandom, or to complain.
>Nowadays you're a horrible ableist if you don't want to stay up all night talking about some obscure fandom thing you don't really care about, when what you really need is to go to sleep. Extremely relatable, my sleep schedule was fucked for years on her account since she had to talk about her special interest every day well past midnight and there was never an "out" of the conversation that didn't make her angry, if I wasn't at her beck and call 24/7 she would get pissy and start icing me out which I really didn't want because I valued her a lot. When I started getting my own life and especially when I started no longer caring about participating in fandom drama of the week that's when our relationship started falling apart. The most important question is: how many more years can you handle having the same conversations about her special interest over and over again while she doesn't express any interest in your life?
No. 2264442
>>2264425Not with me, with each other
>>2264441Jesus, that's depressing but not surprising at all. Now I'm really curious about two men with those disorders being together though, because I imagine BPD males having a lot more overlap with narc traits.
No. 2264755
>>2264282I see, I'm not too surprised that you were used to being treated like shit beforehand, it explains why you had enough patience to deal with her bullshit for so long. The way you describe your ex friend reminds me of two friends of mine I met in university and we're still in touch but I'm trying to gradually be more and more distant because they're getting very annoying. I suspect one of them of being autistic and she wanted to get tested for that to get her life together but couldn't because she had to move somewhere else, the other has unrelated issues but has similar annoying habits. I like them but only in very small doses these days, because they're unemployed and way too into fandom shit or online shit in general, and act the way you described. I have to walk on eggshells and completely avoid a lot of specific, very normal topics to not set them off so almost all they talk about is the weather, fandom shit, BL or JKR being transphobic. When they talk about BL it's not in a normal way, but in a "screaming really inappropriate shit at the top of their lungs about omegaverse or the uke's anus in cafes and restaurants or in the middle of a busy street" way.
>I accepted those apologies, which was apparently not what she wantedWhat did she want then? I bet she expected you to supernaturally read her thoughts and she expected a very stupid reaction from you.
No. 2264891
>>2264755>When they talk about BL it's not in a normal way, but in a "screaming really inappropriate shit at the top of their lungs about omegaverse or the uke's anus in cafes and restaurants or in the middle of a busy street" way. The way I just had vivid flashbacks nona. Maybe they're all made in a factory, it's not possible all these autismo womanchildren act the same way. It was funny when I was 18-21 but I'm nearing my thirties and I just couldn't stand it anymore. She also hated me trying to have any kind of serious literary analysis about BL and would call me cringe for it, while insisting on rehashing these same kind of absolute brain-dead embarrassing conversations about muh uke asshole or whatever. How awful of me for trying to mature alongside my hobbies right?
It was awful when I met her IRL. Your case sounds better already by the fact that you know you are (or at least were) compatible with these girls IRL at one point. If you feel like you need to walk on eggshells around them then I'm sorry but it's the beginning of the end, you will only suffer if you try to hold onto whatever stage of arrested development they are in, even if you love them.
>What did she want then? I bet she expected you to supernaturally read her thoughts and she expected a very stupid reaction from you.Exactly on point. From what I know about her she probably expected me to assuage her feelings and comfort her for her poor widdle "issue" where she impulsively says rude things and humiliates you in front of others, instead of me acknowledging my feelings were hurt. Admitting I was upset at her by taking her apology probably made her feel like she actually made a mistake, and I think she just wasn't equipped to handle it. She did indeed expect me to read her mind at all times and would never tell me if something was wrong, instead taking whatever issue we had to mutual friends instead who would then randomly start icing me. I know that because I was on the other end of it more times than I can count over that span of 10 years. I only know because one mutual friend had the decency to tell me 7 years ago what she was saying about me behind my back. Looking back, thank god I went to therapy.
No. 2264960
>>2264891>Maybe they're all made in a factory, it's not possible all these autismo womanchildren act the same way.If they're all weebs it makes sense to me. All the retarded fujoshi behave in very similar ways online so why not irl too? Compared to the more normal ones who talk about BL and read it, ship characters, but have other things in their lives as well. This applies to all sorts of nerds too.
>Your case sounds better already by the fact that you know you are (or at least were) compatible with these girls IRL at one point.True, I have good memories with them, but now I realize they're from a long time ago. It's not like when you meet someone online so you feel the gaps with your imagination because interacting online isn't the same as irl. But what you said made me realize something else, even though I already had all the hints in front of me: I think my two friends kind of "regressed" in a way. When I met the worst one she was a young foreign student who seemed shy and was into the same series I liked, we had classes together, she was doing her best even when it was hard for her because of a cultural gap between her and everyone else or other reasons. Then she "gave up", stopped going to classes because she expected me to send her my notes and became a shut in, then a neet, and she never had a job after graduating because she was too busy playing FF14 with her online friends and didn't want to interrupt her sessions. I could go on, it's just the tip of the iceberg. I bet your ex friend has similar reasons for being unemployed?
>If you feel like you need to walk on eggshells around them then I'm sorry but it's the beginning of the end, you will only suffer if you try to hold onto whatever stage of arrested development they are in, even if you love them. I know but I still kinda care about them enough to not drop them yet. I'm slowly but surely contacting them less and less often and it feels great. We used to talk to each other almost everyday and when I recently noticed I was almost always the one starting conversations after we all graduated I stopped posting in out group chat nearly as often as I used to and guess what? The chat is slow as fuck now. Years ago everyone was equally involved but recently our more normal friends became more distant with time so I guess it's my turn now. We used to talk about almost everything, now I and another friend can't even talk about work without worrying the other two will have a mental breakdown from being unemployed and too insane to find or keep a job.
No. 2265370
>>2264350>abusive partnersThe partner usually isn't even
abusive, usually she's engaging in reactive abuse after what the moid does to her. Surprise, going after a mentally ill freshly turned 18 year old isn't gonna go well, scrotes!
No. 2265921
>>2265628Yeahhh but bpd wives do the things listed under 'female bpd
victim' too. It's way less threatening than having a man stalking you, sure. But it does happen a lot. And they go ham on their children when it comes to stalking/harrassment/smear campaigns/abuse/etc. BPD isn't radically different depending on your sex, the amount of harm you can do to a man is limited (physically, economically, sexually etc.) but it's not 'BPD male predator' vs. 'BPD female
victim'. Of course a young BPD woman dating an older creep is exceptionally vulnerable and deserves all the support, but this stops being relevant when we're talking about women who are well in their adult years, especially if they have kids. I could bring up so many RL examples but let's say BPD women who want to harm men often have no problem harming other women in the process (ever hear of 'BPD ex-wife' horror stories by women?), making a mockery of violence targeted at women (eg. claiming rape to guilt their bf into staying), harming their daugthers etc.
No. 2267445
>>2263141By thinking about this, I think that it should be mandatory to listen to a bippie's close relative or friend before making any diagnosis, both to exclude it in women who just happens to be emotionally vulmerable and to properly seize men. BPD is highly egosyntonic and totally destructive for people around them so it would be only fair to give some space to the people around them. BPD in women is so over diagnosed it makes me sick because they're often a bit emotional but they lack the other aspects (obsession, lack of identity, reckless behaviour, push pull dynamics, in fact they're
victims of all of these) and men fit the criteria but it's often swept under the autism or sociopath rug. The therapy should be special for them, they can hurt people badly and very often, their
victims go to therapy after being exposed to them and children can suffer immensely with a bpd parent and they risk either to become like them or become heavily traumatized. I have no empathy for them and being bpd should be enough to having a child removed from home. A child cannot be properly raised by an immature and unstable person.
No. 2268488
>>2267445Unfortunately Cluster Bs are hypersexual and often breed like rabbits.
This reminds me of these two personal cows I had a few years ago, one was an ASPD and NPD (diagnosed) male and his wife was also diagnosed with BPD, both had psychotic symptoms and other shit I don't remember but it made them act like irl versions of anime characters and even put "DNI if you kin this character because they are me and it will
trigger me" in their bios. The BPDchan had twin girls with him and I kid you not named them Japanese anime names. Those poor kids will be bullied so hard in school later on. She would then post on story how she'd get jealous of her daughters sometimes because they got more attention from her husband than her and I prayed to god that was just her emotions and she didn't act upon them but the truth is probably far from that. The ASPDkun also posted constantly about his legal battle with trying to adopt a kid because of his diagnoses, he unfortunately won and then would post about how he chose that kid because the kid exhibited antisocial/conduct disorder symptoms already. And instead of putting that kid in therapy or helping him not turn out to be another sociopath like any parent with a brain, he would post about how he'd let the kid watch gore and porn because "he's already aspd/conduct".
No. 2271011
>>2270936OK but personality disorders are a set of contentious and extremely subjective diagnoses. I don't disagree that women are over-diagnosed and men under-diagnosed, but I highly doubt that more than 6% of the total population is "bippie" (it's called BPD when you're over 18). Statistically speaking, most shitty people you meet won't have a mental illness; there's no need to lob a diagnosis at everyone for every quirk and oddity.
Responding to myself here
>>2270829 but I guess it makes sense that BPD is overrepresented here due to its destructive nature, but I'm also just slightly skeptical because many anons on the farm like to throw around "BPD" without actually knowing what it means.
No. 2271027
>>2271011Why are you getting mad at bippie if you use "sperg" yourself? Also did you read the thread? We're not talking about children with bpd, we're talking about grown people who are very obviously mentally ill and we cannot stand them. It's the topic of the thread, of course people are talking about it, there's a thread for everything in existence, doesn't mean that people always encounter them but they do so they come here. This thread is not about statistics.
Subjective diagnosis still need to fit a criteria and bpd people more or less act the same, there's also a running joke about people dating the same person when they confront their experiences because pds are not stuff like being depressed or anxious where a person has personal reasons to be anxious or depressed about, personality disorders make up the whole person because well, it's their personality, it's their whole sense of self and that's why it's easy. Many anons on the farm throw that term because well, meeting a person who acts weird can be confusing, but two that act the same exact way? Three? Just look at how many people here find some stories relatable, see the nuance
No. 2271088
>>2271027"Bippie" is some cutesy TikTok teen retardation that nobody used until this past year, especially not on lc—that's my main gripe. But since you brought up "sperg", nobody uses the word "sperg" exclusively with diagnosed/suspected autists, much like how nobody uses the word "retard" exclusively with the mentally disabled, unlike how "bippie" is almost always referring to people with BPD. That's the main difference.
Also
>We're not talking about children with bpdYou've misunderstood the statement. "Bippie" sounds like a term only children and very young people would use, not a full-grown adult. I never referred to children with BPD (who you cannot diagnose with the disorder anyway because it's restricted to adults).
But all of this is beside the point, I'm not going to keep going on about this.
>Subjective diagnosis still need to fit a criteria and bpd people more or less act the sameYou don't understand what "subjective" means. This means that diagnosis is dependent on the examiner. To clarify, that means even though there is a set of criterion (i.e a list of symptoms), each psych is going to interpret that or the symptoms of their patient differently from each other. There's no biological marker for BPD nor quantitative exam with which to diagnose it, like there might be with a physical disorder like influenza or strep throat (i.e. the doctor swabs your throat, takes the swab to a lab which then identifies a particular virus or bacteria from the swab in order to diagnose your illness—that is called an objective diagnosis). That is why it is a "subjective" diagnosis.
Also use punctuation, ffs. Run-on sentences make it hard to understand what you're trying to say.
No. 2271445
>>2271381I just find your double standards cute.
And yet, another anon coming here, seeing that bpd people are disliked and accusing of projecting because they cannot move on from the fact that yes, factually, bpd people are hard to deal with. Why did you come in this thread, then?
No. 2271978
>>2271381>I honestly assume most people in this thread are guilty by associationThere are other nuances than black and white, you know
>As in, if you run into so many people who are all mentally ill, then you are probably mentally ill yourselfFunny because people with personality disorders pretend to be normal. That's their shtick and then when they have trapped people, their predatory nature gets out and a lot of people got to therapy because they got traumatized.
Your thinking is literally retarded, this is how a 12 year old thinks.
No. 2272318
>>2271978You're on point nona, it's just that those defending or denying the harm BPDemons cause have either never had the misfortune of knowing one personally, or are bippies themselves. Everything said here about them and elsewhere is consistent, the behavior follows a very clear pattern that gives them away regardless of gender. They can never take responsibility and love to make themselves eternal perfect
victims who devour any kindness or empathy shown to them like black holes. I fucking hate dysfunctional bippies and i'm not sorry.
>>2271523Bingo kek
>t.someone born before the 00's, because it's just slang, get over it No. 2272339
>>2272318ayrt and I love hunting bippies down because they're the only ones being fucking insufferable about it
Itt yeah, I agree that bpd slander is common because they're much common to get by, but we discussed autism, depressed people, addicts, ocd and yet no one bats an eye. No one does shit like "Well, depression is very subjective!!" hell, autism is the most subjective disorder, to the point it becomes almost vague and I've yet to see autists come here and crying about it. Personality disorders are easier to spot because their strict criteria and consistent behaviour makes it extremely easy to draw patterns. Extremely. It's not armchairing when it's recognizing patterns.
And yet, they come here and try to play
victim because we hate them. Textbook.
Also
>"Bippie" is some cutesy TikTok teen retardation that nobody used until this past yearAnd then
>Quelle horreur ! Yes, I know where I'm posting newfaggot, and I've been here long enough to know that bippie is not a word used by farmers before 2023-24Which is it kek
They just mad that we don't like them. Other people would brush this entire thread off and yet….
No. 2272358
>>2272339For real. I do feel sorry for the women who get misdiagnosed and then put on medication they don't need, but this whole "it's modern day hysteria" angle is bullshit. We are past that now. Besides that, they have their own echo chamber on here to WK themselves in and go on about how everyone else is the abuser and how they're just being reactive, but you don't see me going in that thread like "ummm ackshully". Tbh I feel like bippies are the pitbulls of the mental health world, in that if someone gets hurt by them it's always the
victim's fault somehow, because they didn't treat them/raise them right, they were probably abused, etc. They and their blind advocates will make a million excuses for why it's justified or not their fault.
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I know this is pretty much a bpd hate thread at this point but holy fucking shit do I hate bpd moids.
This retard we saw last time at a New Year's Eve party started randomly texting my bestie about how he's been "tolerating" my company because he's in love with her but knows I'm important to her.
How my jokes are too confusing to him and they're affecting his mental health but he's been so putting up with them because he's so brave and selfless!
Literally wtf does that got to do with me OR HER? Does he expect her, my best friend of years who literally rents a flat with me, to drop me for some random moid she doesn't care about?
After he claimed to merely "pretend" to like me despite clinging to me for years and inviting me to places (which I always declined)? Jesus fucking christ two hours of texting her just to say he doesn't like me which doesn't even amount to anything because he was literally messaging me with random memes today
No. 2287492
i fucking detest cluster b cunts so much, including and especially bpd. they are EVERYWHERE and are so, so good at destroying people's lives that they've made it into an art form. what's worse is that they're also super good at painting themselves as the misunderstood little angels who need to be saved by their abooserz, aka the actual victim who's getting terrorized or used by the bpdemon. npd is another one that is fucking scary, because unlike bpd, they can play themselves off as these cool nonchalant chill dudes who can feign surprise and victimhood when the abused person retaliates or reacts too strongly for their taste. i've never met an hpd person so no comment there, and i've only met one true apd case where he was sometimes rude here and there, but he admitted he had a real problem and wants to change. shocking, i know, but yeah, npd and bpd are the worst of the worst.
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>>2287988holy shit THANK YOU. i thought i was being a bitch when i thought that some of these fuckers who supposedly go to therapy for years on end still seem unhinged deep down, but this somewhat confirms it lmao. some of the most heartless people i know in my life went to therapy for a long time and they still have issues with having empathy for other people or how to communicate effectively. like the fuck do you bitches talk about in the therapist office? aligning your chakras 101?
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been reading gokurakugai today and my god do i hate bippie queen utsuro. I bet we're gonna see so many zoomer girls "she's so me"-ing her once this series gets more popular.
No. 2291692
>>2291327Agree completely. When I was a dumb teenager I used to just think that nobody around me had issues and that I was some supremely hard done by main character who deserved special treatment. Then I grew up and realised the shit everyone else in my life had to deal with that they were keeping to themselves, especially the women in my family. I wasn't special, and it wasn't cute to act this way. Not that I'm saying we need to go back to how our mothers and grandmothers suffered in silence or anything, but it's become too normalised to be so incredibly fragile and emotionally immature, expecting special treatment and coddling for the littlest things. You can't even disagree over completely benign, impersonal and unserious topics with these people without them turning on the waterworks and accusing you of hating them. It's a manipulation tactic. I've decided to actively stop bringing people like this into my life anymore. It's not worth it.
> “uwu sick brain makes it hard for me to bathe”I especially hate people who talk like this. They do it to themselves as a way of coping and self infantilising and then project it onto me and my issues. I hate it so much. It's already embarrassing enough when I feel sick and can't shower or get out of bed for a few days. And then if I reach out for help they talk to me in this patronising tone like a children's tv presenter which just makes me feel even worse. I honestly don't know how these people get through life having to cutesy-fy every situation and be coddled all the time. Whatever helps someone not kill themselves I guess, but don't bring that attitude to me. Everyone has problems, not everyone wants to be treated like a child because of it.
No. 2303772
>>2303678ADHD is like ODD: medicalized shitty behaviour.
Real ADHD should have the same pattern as being mentally retarded, like autistic kids who cannot read because their brain doesn't compute the whole thing of syllabes and words but most importantly, if this is a real neurodivergence like autism, then it should be present since childhood, instead you see all of these zoomers/younger millennials who were straight A students/are great content creators when it comes to writing scripts, editing, gathering information and of course, having a strict upload schedule claiming ADHD because they like to get lost in their own thoughts and have fried their brains on tiktokesque quick content.
Notice how it's always creators who say they have adhd because most likely they don't have a strict job with deadlines/time restrictions. They have it because they fried their brain and now their brain craves constant dopamine but it goes away once they go on hiatus, it doesn't affect their actual daily life. People with ADHD don't have fancy, curated content and studios.
No. 2305105
>>23048081.) Why are you defending your mental disorder in the thread intended for people to vent about other people's mental disorders?
>This is NOT about your own disorder, so don't blogpost/vent, there's already a thread for that.>This thread is about mental illness you can't stand in others. >Please refrain from coming in this thread and say stupid shit like "Oh that's why nobody likes me" or "Damn seeing this thread as a [thing] sufferer makes me uncomfortable" because nobody will pity you.2.) I outright stated that I was talking about close friends who were diagnosed in childhood, in other words, people I have known for years. Looks like your 80HD is affecting your reading comprehension because I also specified that I was not referring to late diagnosed tiktok fakers.
>All of my close friends who supposedly have it (like diagnosed in childhood and in treatment for 15+ years, not adult tiktok social contagion fakers) No. 2306569
Cluster B apologizers are often self diagnosed or mis diagnosed bippies themselves. They're either "I'm a big lover but with a twist" larping tumblrinas or women who are most likely autistic but misdiagnosed. BPD is an embarrassing diagnosis, it basically says to people "I'm mentally unstable and a narc lite, I will not see you as a person but will play with an idealized version of you and when you go off my script, I will have a mental breakdown and see any conflict by you as abuse because my disorder is only about myself and will destroy you if you dare to ruin my fantasy."
No one actually wants to be BPD, trust me. NO ONE. The only people who romanticize it are girls who believe that bpd is "caring too much" when the whole core of bpd is not caring at all, that's why they're so destructive and if I had an ounce of self awareness, I wouldn't go online to defend such a shitty and dangerous disorder. Autistic misdiagnosed women often hyperfixate on their diagnosis and make it their identity, even if they don't fit the criteria at all and are just a bit moody out of meltdowns. I think that both this and ADHD are such embarrassing diagnosis that the people that claim to have it just want attentionm which is another disorder by itself. Actual BPD people get offended, even if diagnosed, to be called bpd kek in fact they accuse others of being bpd because they find it so embarrassing themselves kek I lost the count of actual bippies going full retard when coping with their illness, it's always something like:
>I'M BPD? Who are you calling disordered?? ARE YOU SURE?? Maybe YOU'RE THE BPD one! You're the abusive one! You are the one to accuse others when you don't get this your way, huh?? You are abusive! How dare you!
Meanwhile a normal person when accused of being one just goes "Yeah no, not really." and goes on without having a fit because if you have a set, healthy identity, you know that you don't "become" something or are something if others accuse you to be something. Telling an actual bippie that you saw through their bullshit is stripping them of their skin and they hate that because their egos are so fragile and fake that they craft one for every person they meet and act out a part, they live on theatre mode constantly and destroying their castles of lies is death to them. How can they survive without their fake identity, oh no!! Poor them!! How dare you see over their bullshit!!
No. 2307351
>>2306569Agreed with all of this. And regarding autistic women misdiagnosed with BPD, often you can tell they're not actually BPD even if they insist they are- autists can lack identities due to masking all their lives but there's a difference you can sense. I can't put it into words though.
I hate the ones who say it's just "i want love and want to love disorder" like kek, that wouldn't be a disorder then, just a fun little romantic, wouldn't it?
No. 2311671
>>2311627That's why I hate like 99% of mental health communities out there. They all hate the very idea of working on yourself or that people around you don't owe you anything. Or that nothing works and that the only option is to wallow in your self-pity.
I would even argue that, for example, reddit mental health communities are bad for your mental health, actually. Literally not a single worthwhile idea came out of those mental health subs except constant bitching and moaning. Or telling users that they are perfectly fine as is, and it's the normies who are wrong. Spergs, mug depreshun fags and claster bitches are the worst offenders.
I actually went down the rabbit hole of mental health subs and, surprisingly, found that few subs were pretty fine. Those are schizoid (for some reason they came off as just chill spergs who help their younger users out), narcissists of all people (the sub is basically "yeah, you are an asshole, so learn to fix yourself"), and schizos (those are pretty sad: a lot of randos gawking at them like it's a fucking zoo or even baiting paranoid schizophrenics, but overall pretty chill).
No. 2311913
I don’t know if it really counts , but do any of you nonnas struggle with functional depression and derealization? I’ve always felt like I was fake. I don’t know the real me because I honestly just mimic whoever is with me. In the sense that I’m really nothing at the end of the day, I feel like a blank paper.
I’ve been doing quite shitty this past month, I’ve done nothing other than ruminating on my thoughts, failing to study or read a book like I wanted to no matter how many times I forced myself, hours and hours on end pass like a flash without me doing nothing. The only thing I could was cook and shower and spend hours on the phone.
I feel like an amoeba with no purpose, everything is boring , I don’t like doing anything and it’s such a struggle to do anything, from keeping societal interactions and friendships to just doing tasks. I wish I could disappear kek.
I’ve never seeked help because I always taught that I had nothing and that it was normal anyway and I was never actively depressed. I have great things, I have a great mom that loves me, friends who listen, I’m in med school too, but I’m just never happy.
No. 2311920
>>2311913Like no matter what I do I just am never satisfied.
The only time where I seriously considered to end it was before my entrance exam in university. I had just made a promise to myself that if I didn’t pass it then I would have had a great excuse to end it and everyone would have easily understood it, but I never went through it by even making a plan because I ended up passing. And so here I am.
A surprise month of Hellmas is now in effect. For the rest of the month of December, VPN posting will be banned.