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Military veteran or cop moids with "PTSD" who make the fact that they were in combat and suffered for it their entire personality and use it as an excuse to be lazy, misogynistic, nasty pigs. I hate how much their trauma is valued socially, especially in burger society. Boo hoo faggot if you signed up for a war to pay for college and weren't forcefully drafted, I don't feel that bad for you

>>2630648
typically they have PTSD because they have fear and guilt over the fucked up shit they did and they KNOW if they talk about it to their loved ones, they will leave and reject them. Vets have this way about them like "I served this country and THIS is what I get?" Yes you retard, I'm sorry you learned so late in the game that being a veteran isn't honorable, it's just something men do to kill and rape people in other countries without punishment. When they come back to America and realize they can't kill and rape everyone that inconveniences them it turns into them lashing out at their family and crying about how terrible the war was

>>2630674
I dealt with a veteran sex pest and he's used his veteran status to try and gaslight me even though I experienced and endured childhood abuse and adult sexual assault. I don't understand how it's okay for him to be a creep and predator because "his brain don't worky worky the same" to women who also have PTSD. Or why his PTSD is overvalued. It's not an excuse. He also comes across as conniving which is another trait I've noticed in militarymen or policemen, they have a strongly manipulative streak. The military is also insanely misogynistic and cruel to female recruits. This motherfucker wasn't conscripted into Vietnam either, he chose to join around the Bush administration. I especially see a pattern of self victimization psychopathological male Cluster B derangement with men who choose to join the military over people who were forced into it by draft or needed to do it for financial security. I have very little sympathy for male cops for similar reasons. You choose one of the most violent, sickening professions that has you see the worst of humanity willingly and then you act like a victim for it, and use it as a segue to harass, assault and abuse women claiming you can't control your urges. Society rewards it. Meanwhile there is very little sympathy for women in those professions or women's PTSD at all.

>>2630648
My father was a military vet with extreme PTSD and his abuse was so bad it gave ME PTSD but of course no one cares because mUHHH COUNTRY!!1! So many of these moids are shitheads when they join the military and (understandably) their brains break when they go overseas and commit war crimes. Take someone who had low consideration for others in the first place and break their worldview and they never recover. I grew up in a military town and hearing other kids talk about how proud they were of their parent’s service makes me question if any of them ever actually went into combat kek. I’d bet most of them were just pencil pushers with GI Bill benefits. There’s a reason so many of the homeless in the US are military vets.

>>2630751
Both my grandfathers were military vets and they were abusive or neglectful to their kids in some way or another. My father's father less so, but he was a dickhead and my family likes to joke that his womanizing in other countries left abandoned children we've yet to find (ala Madame Butterfly / Miss Saigon, which are disturbing glorifications of military GI's impregnating an underage foreign girl). My father thank god ended up not going into the military himself. By the time Vietnam was over, I didn't see a lot of my family members bother to keep up the "tradition". Back in the day it was understandably considered mandatory, and some families to the day brainwash their kids into doing it, but I question anyone who willingly joins without a family history out of anything but desperation to pay for college or lifting their life out of poverty. I feel like the moids who are able to maintain consistent or successful lives already had sociopathic and psychopathological traits and theirs were only emphasized by serving. Those who are able to feign a slim layer of charm will succeed. But a lot of people who dealt with abuse by a narcissist can see through these people's act, which is why it's so infuriating they fall back on their service as a crutch when confronted. They give other people ptsd but all of a sudden it's somehow excusable because they shot a few terrorists in a foreign country…

>>2630648
Fuck all veterans, I don't get why we coddle them so much. They deserve no respect. So what if they're oh so twaumatised, what did they do in war? They went and pillaged villages in third world countries to rape and kill women and children in horrific war crimes history won't dare speak about because it ruins their little twaumatised victim narrative

>>2630648
the mandatory respect is part of the psy-op to get poor kids to join

On topic, every moid who's deep into wars, military tactics, guns etc. as a hobby or general interest has always been a hella neurotic Cluster B type. But everyone wants to focus on supposed mean BPD e-girls or whatever. Doesn't help that Cluster B is never diagnosed in moids, but the symptoms are there and even worse. At least mean BPD e-girl will probably send unsolicited nudes while military special interest moid might actually put one of his guns to your head one day

>>2630961
That level of obsession with violence is always concerning. They'll say he's just some autistic tard with a speshul interest until he actually harms someone and then ask where the red flags were kek

I find traumatized people extremely exhausting to be around in general and the ones who are in therapy are the worst of the bunch. At least the non-therapized traumafags have the decency to be ashamed of themselves and do not consider their sordid life histories to be the most fascinating topic of conversation on earth. As far as I can tell the only effect that therapy has on them is it teaches them to talk about it more, can't say I've ever met someone who I can say was improved after attending therapy sessions though I know plenty who got worse.

>>2631001
I took the boomer approach to mental health and I feel like I'm happier or at least more stable than so many people I know who go to therapy.

I definitely hate how it's become a social thing. why are you swapping traumas at places and events that are supposed to be fun

>>2631007
tbh I don't think the people doing that actually have trauma unless it's so fresh (idk less than two years) that they haven't had time to really process it yet. The kinds of people who talk loudly about their childhood abuse in the middle of a party probably didn't go through childhood abuse because nobody who went through it wants to relive those memories when they're supposed to be having fun.

Impulsive liars, especially if it's something related to health and bodily ability or something. I met this one person through a friend who claimed they were colorblind but could only see "white, black, and purple", which is bullshit if you know literally anything about colorblindness kek. They kept going on about being colorblind and claimed that the colors of a stop sign "flashed" at different frequencies so they were totally able to drive. They were so natural about it but it's obvious they were lying. I cannot with these people kek, I just sat there smiling and nodding.

>>2631031
I can't imagine being older than 10 and still doing this. It reminds me of kids at 5 who would say "my dad is the president" or straight up make believe "I'm a fairy but I'm hiding my wings right now"

Just discovered my dad was schizophrenic all this time. He loved me so but developed this terrible illness and inadvertently ruined our lives and traumatized my family. His psychotic breakdowns were very, very disturbing to witness, he thought the police and CIA were out to get him, that the feds were recording him, he almost killed himself several times accidentally, he was so scared of everything around him. My family hide everything from me, they just told me he had regular dementia, but it was all a lie, he was on the strongest benzos 24/7 just so he could take a break from his hallucinations. Now I understand everything. I feel so alone with this trauma, not everyone gets to witness such undiluted chaos, I cannot talk about this with anyone, nobody talks about it. I feel shame for feeling scared of him back in the day, he was so harmless yet hurt me so deeply like nobody else could. Sometimes the human mind is a scary place.

>>2631045
I'm so sorry, nona. I can't even imagine how horrible that must have been.

>>2631031
I had a friend like this as a teenager and when I confronted her about it she faked a mental breakdown and started cutting herself. Low key gave me trauma. Now when someone claims something that’s clearly untrue and ridiculous I just keep my mouth shut and quietly distance myself from them.

>>2631045
Did he think he was getting gangstalked by any chance ?

People that feel this unbearable, absolute need to be in the center of attention every single time. I cannot imagine a more miserable existence and if before I found them annoying, now I think that they're a threat.
In my group, in the last two years, a girl came (gf of one of us) and she looked like a normie goth at best but then she started shit talking people randomly, making overall false claims (serious stuff, not gossip, she made up pedophilia cases with one of my friends) and then she dumped the first guy to go after a second one in the group. Eventually she was kicked out.
She admitted, in some kind of self awareness moment, that she hates when she's not in the center of attention and craves chaos so she hears her name being called, she has some kind of oogabooga illness that I forgot the name but the fact that she craved attention so much made me feel both icky and both entertained. This girl went overboard, making up false claims for attention. For something that comes naturally if you act nice. For something that's not necessary for survival. She depends on other people's approval to this point.
Can you imagine? Can you actually imagine not liking yourself so much and hating yourself to the point you only feel alive when people are next to you, no matter if angry or happy? She soured our group because the guy that was with her of course defended her because he couldn't see why that's a bad thing until she made up that pedophilia accusations, then shit hit the fan and now we are wary of his ex boyfriend, our friend, because he still texts her because he's afraid that she will kill herself.
First of all, narcs don't kill themselves and if they do, it's accidental, meaning that they accidentally took too many pills or cut themselves too deep for attention, second why do you care? I know that suicide threats are hard to overcome especially if you're a normal person with feelings but really?
I cannot imagine living like this. If I birthed a narc, I would call myself a failure.

Has anyone been the recipient of a BPD's madman ramblings about their favorite person? Can be either all the love in the world in a bomb or the subsequent hate that fucking satan would be scared of a week later.

>>2631809
I have a former TiF friend who would do this, it was equally interesting and tiresome to watch her swing wildly and abruptly between "X is the coolest smartest and most interesting person on earth, so much better than you!" to "X is a demon from hell that wants me to kill myself, good thing I have you!"
I'm not really sure if she was BPD or if it's even a real thing but she definitely had that parasitic need to imprint on another person and would go into uncontrollable rages when said other person failed to live up to whatever her imposed standards were. She'd do this with men and women, whoever happened to be closest to her at the time. I had to cut ties with her when she started getting violent unfortunately.

>>2631809
even when people talk about bpds and their fps, I never see people talk about how they're trying to skinwalk them so they can be better than them and 'win' and then claim that the other person is actually copying them. Both bpds I've known have done this.

>>2631891
yep, I was a fp of a bippie tard and it came to a point where he (tragic, bippie males are so useless) claimed to be better than me at my job. He wasn't in the field at all.

>>2631891
That's an interesting observation, now that you mention it that was definitely a trend in my friend's behavior towards her rotating cast of favorite people. Her worship would become competition and finally contempt.

Enablers of all kinds. It's a mental illness on its own.

>>2631809
When I was 16 or 17 I had one in her 20s confess to me via like 3 pages of text and if only I'd known why I was so creeped out because it was "real love", right?
>I've been taking time to reflect on myself and I realise the reason I've been such a bitch to you was because I was in love with you and jealous
>You mention that you've been hurt by some e-dates when you were 12-14 and I would like to tell you that I would never ever treat you that way
>You're just so perfect and usually I hate people with strong opinions and assertiveness but maybe this is a sign you're really good for me and can help me
Why do you hate strong opinions and assertion. So they can figure out you're a bit loopy and rightfully leave you?
>I've been hurt endlessly by everyone I meet but you stayed this whole time, I've never known what real love was tbh
>I think we're really perfect together because I believe I know you and you know me
>You're a lot like me
>I really want to give you real love because I think you're an avoidant and just deeply craving love but you're hurt and I really wanna be that first real love
Typical playing therapist and saviour complex, also another of my friends saw this and got freaked out on my behalf because how can you give "real love" if you've never experienced or known it before?
>I've been codependent on other people and I've been working on it, I realise you may have unhealthy attachment too and you can be codependent on me too but I'll help you out of this
Again, what? Saviour complex and projection aside, what the heck.
>I will give you all the time you need and respect your boundaries until you're ready but I think one day you might consider it to be with me
Anyway flash forward about 3 months and this was what she said:
>I can't believe I ever got with you
>I regret meeting you 99.99%
>Thesaurus full of synonyms for "bad" and "horrible"
>You constantly belittled me and shoved things down my throat (other way round)
>Brought up my "worst fear" to attempt to hurt me
Said "worst fear" was a claim I was larping who I really was on this account I had, like that baffled me. Is it because she herself would've perceived that as a huge attack on her image/identity and thought I'd be the same? It just made me confused but the vitriol was more odd.
>I hope your entire life is as mean and evil and horrible as you babe
>I've made so many new friends and they love me unlike you who never did
Like, right, right, pack it up, are you trying to spite me or what. Just block me already but no you love the attention.