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No. 2101400

Previous: >>2073267

Discuss art and related topics such as:
-Talk about Art Youtubers
-Ask about art supplies
-Discuss trashy art trends
-Instagram bullshit
-Art theft!
-General Art Bullshit
-Fandom and Shipping Discourse
-AI generated art (do not shill about your ai trained models key words on a prompt do not make you a artist)
-do not post your art to be reviewed here use the designated m thread

SCREENCAP EVERYTHING!
DO NOT REPLY TO BAIT! REPORT AND IGNORE!
WRITE SAGE IN THE E-MAIL FIELD OF YOUR COMMENTS!

Articles about useful resources for improving one's art:
https://hubpages.com/art/how-to-draw-learn
https://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/https://www.alexhays.com/loomis/

Tried and true books on perspective, anatomy for artists, etc:
1. Perspective Made Easy by Ernest R. Norling
2. How to Draw by Scott Robertson
3. Framed Ink by Marcos Mateu-Mestre
4. Figure Drawing by Andrew Loomis
5. The Atlas of Human Anatomy and Surgery JM Bougery
6. Drawing the Head and Hands by Andrew Loomis
7. Figure Drawing by Michael Hampton
8. Force by Michael Mattesi
9. How to Render by Scott Robertson
10. Color and Light by James Gurney
11. The Skillful Huntsman by Scott Robertson/Mike Yamada/Khang Le/Felix
Yoon

Useful youtube channels:
https://www.youtube.com/@mangamaterialsyoutube9454
https://www.youtube.com/@hidechannel2
>where to find art
https://www.wikiart.org/es
https://artvee.com/
>other useful sites
https://film-grab.com/
https://www.canva.com/colors/color-palettes/
https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/figure-drawing
https://color.adobe.com/es/create/color-wheel
https://freephotomuscle.com/
painting Amrita Sher-Gil - Three Girls (1935)

MANY OF THESE BOOKS ARE AVAILABLE AS FREE PDF FILES ONLINE, GOOGLE AROUND. also check e-hentai and bilibili

No. 2101411

shit threadpic OP

No. 2101481

>>2101411
What's wrong with it?

No. 2101484

>>2101411
What do you mean?

No. 2101486

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Here's a great book on animal anatomy nonnies, The Art of Animal Drawing by Ken Hultgren. It's been extremely helpful to me!

https://archive.org/details/the_art_of_animal_drawing

No. 2101507

>>2101411
>she doesn't like sargent
respectfully, you have horrible taste

No. 2101518

>>2101486
Seconding- this and Force: Animal Drawing by Michael Mattesi were basically my art bibles when I decided to take drawing more seriously kek (they were two of my first art books)

What critters are you drawing anon?

No. 2101531

>>2101518
basic taste but drawing moths and frogs is really fun. No wonder everyone did it.

No. 2101540

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How long do you anons take to complete a drawing? I drew a 5 person illustration and it took me 17 hours. I'm worried I'm slow at drawing.

No. 2101548

>>2101507
I actually took the picture myself, at the Tate show this year. It was marvellous. I haven’t the foggiest clue what they’re waffling about, either.

No. 2101558

what’s the name of that artist someone posted last thread that did simplification well

No. 2101564

>>2101558
dixon myas

No. 2101589

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>mfw just learned an artist I have liked for years is a TiM

No. 2101592

>>2101589
who is it

No. 2101596

>>2101540
17 hours is okay for 5 people on the image. Ofc it depends on the level of detalisation though. I'm really slow, it takes me usually at least 6 hours for an artwork even with just one person, but it's because i really like rendering and painting

No. 2101603

>>2101531
nah great taste anon, glad you're having fun with them! the little/odd critters of the world deserve more love as art subjects kek

>>2101540
It really depends on the complexity of the drawing (number of characters, their designs, what they're doing, type of background/environment etc) and what style I'm using (eg simple cell-shading vs detailed digital painting), but on average probably 3-8 hours? I wouldn't stress too much about taking 17 hours to do a five-person illustration anon, that's like 3.4 hours a character (obviously not taking into account time spent on working out the overall group composition and posing etc). Look at it this way as well the more you draw, and the more pieces you finish, the faster you'll get

No. 2101626

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Is drawing in a animesque semi-realistic style bad? It's been my ideal art style for ages but the amount of divide anime brings to this board has me a tad reluctant.

No. 2101631

>>2101626
nonna it's also my favorite artstyle ever don't let haters crush your dreams

No. 2101645

>>2101626
draw whatever and however makes you happy anon, not what you think people on a site that could probably have a disagreement over the necessity of oxygen to human life might think is the 'correct' style of drawing

No. 2101651

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Will always be chasing this art style

No. 2101656

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Question nonas, it's con season so I end up having a lot of salt about convention artists and their art and artist alley/art markets that I would like to post, should a new thread be made specifically for that so I don't shit up these art threads? Or would anons just be fine with it being posted here?

No. 2101659

>>2101626
you mean like cowboy bebop?

No. 2101660

>>2101656
go on nonna, i want to hear all your qualms

No. 2101667

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>>2101592
Sachin Teng. Pretty well known in the field of illustration for both his professional work and fanart. He has been mentioned here plenty of times positively by others as an inspiration, but always under the assumption he was a woman.
When you go to his Xitter and Instagram profile the description has she/her pronouns + LGBT + trans flag. Initially I thought it was just typical handmaiden shit since that's the standard for western social media artists, but doing a cursory search on his old DeviantArt and Tumblr blog reveals he identified as a man up until 2016.

No. 2101669

>>2101626
Draw what you want nona! I personally draw in a weird gritty monster style half of the time, none of my friends like it at all kek they only care when I draw anime

No. 2101672

>>2101656
Post away. These threads have always discussed artist alley drama too.

No. 2101674

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>>2101651
Reminds me how much I liked paprika art

No. 2101688

>>2101667
wait people didn't know he was a guy? thought that was pretty common knowledge considering he was one of tumblr's art darlings- which I suppose is also why the news (to me) that he's trooned out isn't all that surprising. Sucks, I guess, but I learned/lifted what I wanted from his art years ago kek

No. 2101692

>>2101660
ayrt, it's a lot and more keeps popping up because I'm in a bunch of artist alley discords. Artists acting like kids, being entitled, having shit taste and giving terrible advice… Whenever I see ugly ass basic pride pins pop up and they all stroke each others ego about it I just roll my eyes so hard, they're like "guys is $15 too much for this pin?" "omgg nooo sweetie take at least $25 for pins!!!" and they really do be looking like >>2101656 I'm worried it's too boring to keep posting ugly pride pins it in this thread, but I wanna share the cringe with people

No. 2101697

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>>2101659
ayrt, Pretty much along with maybe ghost in the shell and similar works. I just really love the look because it blends grounded reality with the idealization of style. The minimalist approach lets the audience imagine the details of imperfections rather than having them explicitly drawn out. It frustrates me when individuals interpret it literally as if imperfections are not acceptable, despite the diverse range of characters in these anime and manga. (pic rel ain't the best example but you get what I mean nonna)
>>2101692
I'm not gay or anything but who in their right mind wasted 25 dollars for a piece of metal?

No. 2101702

>>2101692
lol please do I love sharing the cringe
Other anons have said this, but I wish there were more diverse things being sold than pins and keychains. Hell, even something like a sketchbook or a notebook would be awesome

No. 2101740

>>2101688
I didn't care about his gender but just kind of assumed he was a female artist since even people here referred to him as such. It doesn't ruin his work for me, but it's still really disappointing.

No. 2101848

>>2101667
>>2101740
Hope I don't come across as a handmaiden or whatever writing this, but why does it even matter? If the art is still good why should you even care about his personal life and retardations? You obviously couldn't tell who he was from simply looking at the drawings and even assumed he was a woman at first so why would it even change anything? I hope you're not disappointed because you inherently value the fact that an artist is a woman rather than the quality of her work. Do you seek out female artists just for that reason?

No. 2101862

>>2101848
I'm disappointed about the troonery, not the fact he is a man or woman.

No. 2101869

>>2101862
I'd understand being disappointed in the troonery if it was someone you knew personally or if it affected his art in some way, but it seems like neither of those are the case here. I assume you like him for his drawings and not for his politics or personal life.

No. 2101906

>>2101548
I’m super jealous nona!! He’s one of my biggest inspirations for art. So glad you enjoyed it

No. 2101994

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>>2101848
Hadn't even heard of the guy, but finding out a woman you had looked up to as a woman was actually just a guy pretending to be a woman IS hurtful on a personal level to a lot of women. If you were truly "separating the art from the artist" as your posts seem to allude to, then you should also not have an issue with AI art. But the fact that it is a human behind the art is what gives it value for most people. Picasso's art isn't worth millions because people just happen to love that style of art, but because HE made it. If it turned out a piece was fake and not made by him, most people aren't interested anymore. If someone is a Picasso copycat, people don't care about that either. Art is a form of communication that brings people together, who made it is important to the art too.

No. 2102109

I wanted to ask this question before some spergs start getting hyperfixated on twitterfag artists. Which drawing program is the absolute best? I was going to consider using Clip Studio Art since I bought an unlimited license for it but those faggots really want to charge you an extra $10-$20 just to upgrade it to the latest version so I’m sticking to paint tool sai since it has more versatility and the UI is super nice and easy to use unlike CSA. If you use paint tool sai which brush settings do you recommend?

No. 2102119

>>2102109
I’m not up to date with the newest CSP developments but I’ve stuck to flipping between my CSP pre-2.0 version and my pirated SAI for a good 7-ish years now. You don’t need the newest CSP updates, it’s all a marketing illusion. Just get the permanent one-time licence for the ‘old’ CSP. As for SAI brush recommendations, I wish I could be more specific since I actually recently ‘lost’ my favourite brush (kek) but I would suggest finding artists you like, digging up their SAI speedpaints, pausing when they open the tool screen and copying everything directly with a sprinkle of common sense to fill the gaps.

No. 2102146

>>2102119
I bought the license for Clip Studio in either 2020-2021 and downloaded it back on my laptop again until I figured you had to pay to update it along with your license. Another thing stopping me from using it is that whenever I try to download somebody else’s brushes to use it doesn’t even work, so fuck that I rather just try and make my own brushes or search through Pinterest for PTS brush settings. Thanks nonny for that last tip. I used to do that same thing years with other stuff kek

No. 2102304

>>2102146
What do you mean it doesn't work? Any brushes that are in the .abr or .sut formats can literally just be dragged into the workspace, not to mention how easy it is to get brushes from their huge asset library.

No. 2102328

>>2102304
It’s not showing up at all

No. 2102329

>>2102328
What is not showing up

No. 2102332

>>2102329
The brushes nonny, the brushes kek they aren’t even showing up in that workspace. I uninstalled it anyways I’m fiddling with paint tool sai right now

No. 2102339

nonnas i have a question, how is someone supposed to find their own unique art style? i have been drawing for years already and i cant find my own art style as it always seems to be either very anime or very realistic and i dont feel happy with it, i really want to improve and do art i feel happy with, i have studied a lot of art books and my art skills are ok for being drawing for so long but still i cant find a style i feel satisfied with

No. 2102345

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>>2102332
How are they not showing up? Did you think they'd immediately be added into your program after downloading from the asset website? Have you even tried to import them? I genuinely don't understand what about this wouldn't work, it's either done like picrel or through clicking that left symbol on the bottom. Good luck with sai though, I'm getting the feeling that a simple program is just what you need.

>>2102339
Style is just how you draw, there's no need to think about it too much. Start studying artists you like and analyze what exactly you dislike about your current drawings.

No. 2102353

>>2102345
Oh thanks for the gif!

No. 2102463

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who wants to call out @subuart for using AI, it's free real estate(cowtipping request)

No. 2102483

>>2102463
Anon please spoiler this her pussy’s out

No. 2102493

>>2102463
no1currs

No. 2102540

ergojosh finally being exposed as the mediocre hack he is.

No. 2102550

>>2101994
Why the hell are you putting words in my mouth? And I never mentioned shit about AI. All I meant was that it’s retarded to live parasocially through no-face artists (or any person)on the internet.

No. 2102556

>>2102463
Wow, what a small world. I hate this guy kek.

No. 2102621

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>>2102332
Piggybacking on >>2102345, if you want to use brushes downloaded from CSP's shop, open the rightmost panel to find them and then drag the brush to your brush window.
I have to say it's not very intiutive, when I started using it I thought they would get saved on the brush window automatically as well.

No. 2102676

>>2102463
hahaha no way i remember everyone sucking his cock on ic because he was the only one that could draw decent anime, ofcourse he had to be using ai no ictard has ever make it

No. 2102698

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nonnies with ADHD how do you draw for more than 30 minutes without getting overwhelmed?

No. 2102711

>>2102621
Thank you for this as well anon!

No. 2102713

>>2102698
Break it down into smaller (timed if you want) tasks. Like do the sketch, then ink the bangs and side hair, then a hand, etc.
I do physical so as a bonus this also helps combat me accidentally smearing part of a drawing because I inked a bunch of close together stuff.

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>>2102698
musica and look up some fanart for inspo. i often take breaks so not to feel too overwhelmed it helps trigger the hyperfocus to remain for a few hours

No. 2102731

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when you start drawing a character without a background, do you usually use a 3D grid? i always struggle a lot placing characters when there isnt a background to guide me, my sketches always end up flat as a result.

No. 2102742

>>2102731
>ugly fishnets
>cutout pants because they have to show her thighs for coomers
>weird anime knock knees anatomy that makes them look like retarded stunted heavily domesticated puppies
sigh i’m tired, send a bomb there and calm it a day

No. 2102744

>>2102698
Start by drawing whatever you want (a.k.a. actively procrastinating what you're actually planning on drawing) until you get in the flow and hyperfocus kicks in. Feeling like I'm avoiding my "real" task gets me motivated to do almost anything. If it doesn't work because you're not actually planning anything you want to draw then give yourself goals like "I'll do a fabric study today" and then avoid it.

No. 2102751

>>2102742
he suffers from shit taste but i like his art, wish i could feel the form like him

No. 2102808

File: 1721831084351.jpeg (Spoiler Image,255.75 KB, 750x1203, 1B9BD4F0-EDE2-4041-B385-16E92F…)

I’ve been following this artist for a while, and his art has been giving me red flags. He posted this yesterday and I feel like it’s raising even more red flags. Does anyone else follow him and feel the same way?

No. 2102825

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>>2102808
why do people still ask if moids are degens, yes, they are. I am more intrigued by him taking inspiration from this type of cringe black art from the 00s, what a bizarre style lmao.

No. 2103129

>>2102808
this artstyle reeks of tif

No. 2103159

>>2101697
nonna I'm sorry but god I hate naoki urasawa, his art style is the worst traits of both anime and realism.not ot mention his writing sucks and is pseudodeep bullshit too

No. 2103162

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Just what the fuck happened to Mohammed Agbadi? I remember he used to be one of the very very few somewhat decent art youtubers (at least he seemed to be the saving grace considering the other big shot was fucking ergojosh) but he plunged into coom territory and now most of his posts regarding his own art have some broken-ass anatomy coombait on it. Fucking christ.

No. 2103164

>>2103159
Nta you replied to, but I’m curious what elements you mean? I haven’t really looked into his art or manga that much but I’ve been interested

No. 2103165

>>2103162
jesus that looks horrible, like something you would see on /beg/

No. 2103167

>>2103162
>study
>no anatomy in sight

No. 2103168

>>2103162
Those are frog legs.

No. 2103173

>>2103162

he's doing it on purpose to get attention. which is shit, because if you look at the rest of his community posts some of his actual non coomer art is at least passable enough and has some dynamism going on despite the occasional wonky anatomy. but then every odd post he whips out a "study" of nothing but female hips/legs/thighs/ass which are very obviously just to get coomer attention and likes.

No. 2103178

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>>2103162
Oh ew. This is disgusting. But also hilariously pathetic since he's using his coomer "studies" to bait viewers into watching his videos. Guy's confidence in his own content is so low that he literally resorts to baiting people with ass drawings to get them to watch, kek.

No. 2103181

>>2103178
do coomers even find these attractive? they look horrible.

No. 2103198

>>2103178
The laying legs with giant stompers being right next to the one with a singular super tiny feet is making me laugh more than it should be.
And as someone into both women and thighs, these are terrible. Are men so brainrotted these look attractive? I don't usually mind shitty anatomy on animu drawings, but these don't even look human.

No. 2103200

>>2103178
this is hideous

No. 2103201

>>2103162
>>2103178
why do art critics suck so much at art

No. 2103207

>>2103181
Yeah, even from a coomer perspective, the torso/hips on the one on the right corner aren't even properly centered at all, and on >>2103162 trying to give them huge hips but also forcing in a tight gap just makes them look like they have comically long femoral heads and makes them look like frogs.
What are the comments on these posts like? Do coomers really bite this bait?

No. 2103224

>>2103181
coomers will consume anything that looks vaguely female in their eyes even if it's a disembodied badly drawn ass and tits. coomers don't care about the art quality, they only care if it's ass, tits or a vagina.

No. 2103227

>>2103178
How did he make the thighs SHARP

No. 2103234

>>2103178
looks like he's both trying to appeal to coomers and the muh shapes/exaggeration crowds kek. Looks so shit.

Might be remembering wrong, but didn't he go through a big burnout period/lose a lot of interest in art a few years ago? iirc his channel lost momentum and he started posting videos that his original audience wasn't interested in or weren't popular in the art tutorial channel space at the time. Seen a couple other artists go through something similar and then try to grasp for relevance by posting passionless coombait, is all.

No. 2103267

>>2103234
IIRC he used to make videos that were actually helpful for art and giving proper advice/tutorials. His videos also felt more chill in nature and easier watches, but I suppose those weren't giving him good numbers and then he started to lean more heavily into videos about art community/art-related drama and do those coombait drawings to announce video releases. Sad, looking at his older videos now they did seem fine but now he pretty much only talks about art drama.

No. 2103276

>>2103178
The fact that he keeps drawing them without a torso makes my brain connect even more to those frog legs that people cook. Also kek at the waist being the same size as her knees. Guess her intestines went to her butt.

No. 2103279

File: 1721852805763.jpg (Spoiler Image,2.12 MB, 3600x1280, michael.jpg)

Deviantart levels of insufferable attitude regarding theft
she's acting as if she never heavily referenced anything in her life
spoiler for mutilated tifs

No. 2103293

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>>2103162
Everything he draws looks he heavily referenced someone else, picrel looks so much like likelihood and in the past he used to emulate different artstation or comic styles. That's why you can't depend on these youtubers past teaching fundamentals, if they were good at drawing or had any creativity they wouldn't be making videos.

>>2103279
Kek as if OPs art didn't look like casin0s and the hundreds of other artists who do this style. I'd also be mad about getting anon messages like that though

No. 2103321

"DO NOT REPOST"
Bitch, how do you think you're getting popular in the first place? these kind of artists grind my gears so badly
especially if your shit is watermarked, you should have no issues with this

No. 2103356

>>2103159
Urasawa is great. His work is incredibly sincere, how anyone can accuse him of being pretentious is beyond me.

No. 2103362

>>2103356
Right? If you watch even one episode of Manben you'd know he's always thinking about what would be fun or interesting for an audience and not what would make himself look deep or impressive.

No. 2103379

>>2103321
Does your shit get reposted often? Has it ever happened to you?

No. 2103394

>>2103321
People are going to do it regardless, but I see artists get their art posted on Pinterest and all the dumb kids commenting stupid shit under it.

No. 2103416

>>2103293
wtf at the girl on the bottom right's braids, the one is like crawling back her head

No. 2103432

>>2103178
Day by day I’m convinced that the backbone of male sexual attraction is supernormal stimuli. To them, the bigger the boobs/ass/whatever, the better, even if it straight up looks deformed

No. 2103436

>>2103416
I'm guessing he got bored trying to focus on something that didn't get his dick hard and just gave up

No. 2103439

>>2103279
Lol yes we’re all jealous of your Tearzah rip off art

No. 2103457

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>>2103279
shit, i recognize this artist. i liked their use of color and aesthetics but i didn't know they were fucking insane. seriously what are they trying to say here? its illegal to be inspired? they should take the compliment, what a fucking idiot

No. 2103465

>>2103457
How is "XY mogs you" a compliment exactly

No. 2103482

>>2103321
Yeah, frankly, I've never understood people seething so hard at their art being reposted. I get it if it's people pretending they drew it, and I get you might want people to know it was you, but if your art gets shared around doesn't that mean people like it a lot and want more people to see it? I dunno, I feel like online artists have a lot of specific netiquette that only online artists give a shit about.

No. 2103491

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>>2102540
His viewers are not taking this well.

No. 2103496

Anyone here have experience getting back into drawing after many years of inactivity? I keep looking at what I used to draw and it was so much better than what I can do now. I'm trying hard to go back to that level but it just doesn't work.

No. 2103506

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>>2103293
Nah likelihood_art didn’t get popular until he peaked on YouTube. Those are just coomer chicken scratch shit, nigga (I’m a woman so calm down) is hella skilled.(integrate)

No. 2103515

>>2102825
I'm confused anon, these don't look similar to the art in the OP at all

No. 2103517

>>2103506
I don't think you can read

No. 2103520

>>2103517
I read it and I’m pretty sure anon was criticizing his art skills. Fuck off anon

No. 2103526

>>2103520
nta, but likelihood art is a woman who makes the cute black women drawings that the moid was trying to replicate

No. 2103530

>>2103526
They have similar art styles but it doesn’t mean he’s ripping her off completely, they both have this boxy look to their anatomy and it’s probably due to how they both learned how to draw. Ew I’m defending a moid but it’s kind of ridiculous, his art looked like likelihood’s when she started becoming popular lol

No. 2103532

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>>2103506
That post was about how all his stylized pieces are referenced off of someone else because he has no creativity nor anything to say. Top row left and right and bottom left of this showcase from his twitter are clearly inspired by Max Grecke and anything else by Marvel/DC slop.

>>2103530
If it was due to how he learned to draw he'd have started drawing like that sooner or he'd still be drawing in this ugly comic style.

No. 2103536

>>2103526
Thank you for saying this cause the he/his made me think I was going crazy or thinking of a different artist

No. 2103551

>>2103532
Nothing is original about art nonny, you’re going to end up ripping off someone else.

No. 2103557

>>2103551
Doesn't mean you can't point it out.

No. 2103562

>>2103515
check the rest of the account it has that nutshack look to it

No. 2103563

>>2103551
Being unoriginal isn't the same as being uncreative

No. 2103592

>>2103563
I'd say they both go hand in hand.

No. 2103665

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>>2102808
This is one of the drawings by him/her (I seriously think it’s a guy) that made the sirens go off. Apparently this is a TIM child character but still, the way it’s drawn just creeps me out

No. 2103667

>>2103665
100% lolifag/trapfag

No. 2103668

>>2103665
Sorry to break it to you nona, but this is some straight up pedo shit.

No. 2103674

>>2103665
Even more proof that trannies and gendies love sexualizing children. They get angry for people pointing this out because it’s regurgitating gay stereotypes but it’s absolutely true, they are too dangerous to be around children and they are adamant about wanting to influence them and be around them hence why they make these art accounts drawing in these easy to copy styles to pander to young zoomers and gen alpha who are more likely to become fans of theirs and become further indoctrinated by their crypto-faggotry and easier to groom.

No. 2103703

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>>2103551
It's not a matter of creativity, when you draw for a long time you'll naturally get your own style out of both muscle memory and your own preferences, subconscious or not (which is improved by having a more expansive mental library and understanding more the theory). Two artists can have very similar style without ever crossing paths because they're inspired by the same things and same artists, but stylehopping to the extreme as anons have shown D'Angelo doing basically indicates that he has neither strong preferences (he is always drawing in other people's) or is secure enough in his muscle memory ergo he is a lazy artist who can't build on anything or develop anything which can deem him as being uncreative.
Art is like building a bridge, you definitely want to develop a very sturdy foundation but the material you use after that is just as important as it can get you somewhere very creative. You can replace some of that material as you go, but you'll get nowhere creative if you're constantly completely switching it out like D'Angelo does.

>>2103665
Absolutely revolting. Looking at that makes me feel like the artist is already on a list

No. 2103725

>>2103703
> D'Angelo
what does d'angelo have to do with anything posted? he doesnt make art content anymore does he?

No. 2103731

>>2103725
Fuck kek, I switched Mohammed and D'Angelo. Sorry anon I'm retarded

No. 2103742

>>2103703
>d’angelo
KEKKKKK you mean mohammed agbadi?

No. 2103743

>>2103731
two black people have to be the same

No. 2103751

>>2103743
No, I'm just retarded with names and sleep deprived and the recent drama with that one moid probably unconsciously put D'Angelo's name in my head. Don't make it what it's not.

No. 2103753

>>2103751
yeahhh sure anon(back to twitter)

No. 2103754

>>2103731
whatever happened to d'angelo tho does he still draw? he used to lurk here for his drama vids. I wish he still did art drama vids, i would kill for a well researched art dramatuber.

No. 2103766

>>2103754
he became a full drama channel. his most recent video was about one of those generic nick mullin noel miller kurtis connor nice goy commentary/“comedian” youtubers cody ko raping a 17 year old tana mongeau

No. 2103771

>>2103753
Maybe think about why you immediately jumped to racism anon

No. 2103818

>>2103766
huh I didn't even know he used to do art

No. 2103925

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>>2103818
It wasn't very memorable to be honest, he didn't draw much either. I get the feeling he's too normal, artists have to be at least a little degenerate to get fully invested in such a lonely and laborious hobby

No. 2103942

>>2103925
that's his art? it looks like ass kek. they all have dead fish faces and the shading is beyond muddy.

i've also always hated d'angelo's narc trips. sure a lot of his narcissism was definitely exaggerated for humor/the camera but he sucked at it and it came of as insufferable and annoying instead, i got tired of watching his videos so fast because of that.

No. 2103947

>>2103279
Just had a look at both their accounts and their art is completely different. If anyone actually messaged the TIF that, they're an idiot, but I doubt it because then she would have a real screenshot. She just looks unhinged. They both have pretty generic styles but yaran's is better and it makes sense that she's more popular (and she draws pretty girls instead of mutilated TIFs) Yaran is definitely capitalizing on the edgy/altgirl y2k trend while "michael" is probably inspired by similar things but drawing eyebleed gendie shit. And yaran started posting that style before michael anyway

No. 2103956

>>2103925
iirc his original gimmick for his channel was that he was an absolute beginner and was going to document his growth through his videos by following tutorials and doing studies etc, but then he started covering art dramas and stopped drawing/improving

No. 2103973

>>2103925
i forgot this guy existed after his covid-19 video, he didn't quit?

No. 2103981

Nonnas, what's your opinion on Procreate?

No. 2103989

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>>2103279
Both of their styles are basically better mildly v-kei inspired Tearzah, kek

No. 2104008

>>2103925
No wonder he left the art community his art fucking sucks kek

No. 2104083

>>2103925
He's too much of a narc to dedicate himself to art. Becoming a drama channel fed his ego and need for praise and attention instantly. You have to work for years to get that as an artist

No. 2104327

>>2103925
this is attrocious. Why do i remember his art being better?

No. 2104343

>>2104008
Literally everyone's art in the "art" community sucks ass, none of these people can draw kek

No. 2104369

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>>2103665
This pose + expression is indicative of a icfag lolicon

No. 2104372

>>2104369
I swear there were way less pedos in society just ten years ago

No. 2104373

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>>2104343
i wonder why? same thing happens in the animation community. None of the spergs who spend hours seething about cartoon can draw either. LS mark is one of my fav cows because hes so egocentric. The sketches on the top left are the original drawings a good artist did for his crappy pilot, and below its his hideous botched interpretation that completly stripes all the charm out of the designs.

No. 2104391

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>>2104369
The feet too lmao

No. 2104392

>>2104369
>>2104391
> Stomach tattoo
Ugh.

No. 2104393

>>2103989
How the hell did Tearzah become so influential in the world of internet artists? Many of her contemporaries copied her, even though she was a nobody, and then they got copied by others, and so. Meanwhile she can draw literally 1 or 2 things exactly the same. It's a weird phenomenon.

No. 2104406

>>2104393
>Meanwhile she can draw literally 1 or 2 things exactly the same

That's precisely why she had so many copycats, she had an easy style to copy. Amateur artists don't copy styles that are difficult to recreate. Even the ones who do a bunch of Leyendecker studies never truly incorporate his style into their work, because it's hard to do. The more simple your style is to recreate, the more copycats.

No. 2104407

>>2104393
As bad as Tearzah's art was, it's very distinctive looking, kind of edgy and looks good enough so it appeals to young people, and easy to copy so you can quickly apply her style to your own art.

No. 2104412

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>>2104393
speaking of her, her art got worse

No. 2104417

>>2104369
Mega nitpick but when people do light palms on dark skinned characters that are drawn in incredibly simple styles it looks so fucking jarring. Just because everyone saw the same twitter/tumblr tutorial doesnt mean you need to add it when nothing else has the same level of detail. It's drawing the eye there for no reason

No. 2104427

>>2104369
Bootleg nagatoro

No. 2104460

>>2104417
I know it’s associated with being a ‘woke’ art style thing but as a melanated person, I think you’re just not used to seeing it. It is how our palms look, the only issue is that people never seem to blend the tones together so that the sharp outline looks unnatural.

No. 2104462

>>2104412
Utterly depressing.

No. 2104474

>>2104460
to be honest for me my palm really does just stand out sharply against my skin like that. depends on the person

No. 2104497

>>2104460
nta, I think it's a nice detail, but that it works best in the simple/cartoony art styles that also include colour variation in the skin in other areas and across all skin tones– imo it mostly looks odd when there aren't matching details across, say, a cast of character designs.

The problem with all of the 'woke' character design traits imo is that they're often just slapped on without thought or exaggerated to the point of caricature, not necessarily that they're true design faux pas or whatever.

No. 2104506

>>2104373
How the hell did he manage to trace it and still manage to make the drawing lose its charm

No. 2104538

>>2102808
>>2104369
What is the reason for even following artists like this. I never understand when people post "omg this person I follow is such a weirdo" here when it implies they're also into the same degenerate shit. Stop following nasty pedo moids.

No. 2104549

>>2104538
you wouldnt be able to follow any anime artist lmao

No. 2104578

>>2104538
Same reason you follow any cow for the milk or you followed a artist from a piece you liked without looking more into their account and then finding out they're a artcow or a degenerate.

No. 2104579

>>2104549
And your point is? I don't follow anime artists so I guess I don't get the braindead idea to follow moids who are lolicons

No. 2104583

>>2104579
good for you

No. 2104663

>>2104392
no, not a stomach tattoo. It's worse than that; it's a womb tattoo.

No. 2104670

>>2104412
I'm pretty sure that's a joke piece

No. 2104677

>>2104663
isnt it a tranny though?

No. 2104679

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>>2104670
It is, but somehow she has managed to stagnate for over years and years kek

No. 2104684

>>2104679
goddam its hideous. I dont understand people that draw nothing but the same crap over and over without ever challenging themselves.

No. 2104693

File: 1721936546281.jpeg (700.92 KB, 1180x2483, IMG_2160.jpeg)

Do you guys agree?
It’s funny that they omit that one of the reasons why a lot of artists find so much more success in other platforms is that you’re not forced into drawing fanart. You don’t have to be attached to the hip to geek culture to find success on tiktok or instagram (rip) or Xitter.

No. 2104708

>>2104693
I fucking hate tumblr. The UI is cancerous and its hard to find posts made by the user if they dont tag their art properly. At least with twitter i can avoid all the sperging if i just go to the media tab. Also, it sucks assss to mass download an artists gallery because , at least the scrapper i use, also downloads reblogs. Fucking shitty garbage page, i wish we could go back to DA.

No. 2104709

>>2104708
oh and i forgot that they dont let you use the site if you dont have an account, which also sucks balls.

No. 2104713

>>2104709
>they dont let you view the site if you dont have an account
thats every damn site nowadays and i hate it

No. 2104722

>>2104693
tbh you don't have to do fanart to get attention on tumblr, but you do have to know how to tag your work so that communities that would be interested in sharing it around can find it. Your picrel is right though, but it's not like being social on a social media site is that crazy of a concept kek

No. 2104726

>>2104391
This is giving me visceral disgust. You can tell the moid who made this is degenerate

No. 2104729

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>>2104715
nah they are inspired by urban art from the 00s

No. 2104747

>>2103506
If he wasn’t too addicted to art drama he could have been a very beloved comic artist or a cover artist

No. 2104767

>>2104391
this guy has a lot of teens following him and they love his shit. I feel bad for them not realizing yet..

No. 2104838

>>2104460
AYRT, I'm black kek. Like I said, it bothers me when people add it in super simple art styles where nothing else has the same level of detail. One area being randomly detailed when nothing else is just draws the eye there for no reason. Apologies for using the pedotranny art as an example but this level of detail >>2104391 versus this one >>2104369 Obviously it looks fine in a rendered piece but pure flat colors look a bit strange. People's lips are differently colored from their faces but many simple styles omit that because it would look strange to add it in. Same logic applies to the palms imo. I feel like people just add it so they don't get reee'd at online and don't think of how they can incorporate it into a cartoonish style.

No. 2104881

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>>2104679
She hasn't actually stagnated that much, she's slowly improved from the horror of her 2020-2021 art (right) which she basically had to relearn drawing art afterwards

No. 2104883

>>2104881
both look the same

No. 2104899

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No. 2104936

>>2104549
Almost as if… anime is bottom of the barrel degenerate garbage…

No. 2104937

>>2104936
only anime girls, anime boys are cute

No. 2104938

>>2104883
You're either retarded or blind

No. 2104941

>>2104938
whats the big improvement? its literally the same just with different clothes, i am pretty sure the hands in the new drawing are copy pasted and flipped too kek

No. 2104942

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>>2104941
so much improvement

No. 2104952

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>>2104942
NTA but I said she hasn't stagnated that much, not that she hasn't at all. Look at >>2104899 that. I don't think I need to explain how fucked that is. I don't even like her new art because she's gone back to the retarded lipodema thighs but if you want a list of what she's improved since 2021;
>stronger lineart, no chicken scratch or scribbling
>hands actually have semblance of form and are not random squiggles
>consistent anatomy, especially in the skull and torso
>hair, although retarded looking, looks it is connected to the hairline and isn't a mess of black that obscures a cone head
>no more shapeless black in general, black or dark parts of drawing have gradients and/or white lines that clearly define those parts and makes the drawing readable
>no more pfeiffer syndrome faces
>can define muscles, albeit not well but it's better

No. 2104954

>>2104952
i thought >>2104899 was meant to be a display of her newer art

No. 2105318

I finally deleted my facebook page and my instagram account. fuck meta.

also, what are your favorite sites to post your artwork nonas?

No. 2105451

>>2105318
I miss deviantart. My art just rots on my hard drive nowadays

No. 2105476

>>2105451
Same. DA was my first proper social platform I joined back in the day. Despite how mean everybody was and how degenerate it became so quickly, at least it was a decent platform to post on. I felt like even if you were an amateur artist you were guaranteed a handful of followers, but I can't say that about modern platforms. I tried getting into Insta posting like half a decade ago, and even when I tagged the hell out of my posts I never accrued more than a few likes. Sometimes the knowledge that nobody really wants to see my art just depresses me and I lose the motivation to continue creating frequently.

No. 2105482

>>2105451
the internet isn't the same without dA around.
>>2105476
same nona, I don't want millions of followers, just a little feedback but I receive nothing. I feel lonely in this world

No. 2105488

>>2104693
I personally only post art on tumblr and it's been fine for me. I follow plenty of other artists but I refuse to follow anyone who mostly reblogs stuff. I don't want my dashboard clogged up with memes and shitty politics. I don't get quite as much engagement as other sites, but I'm using it as a portfolio and it's working fine

My fanart does do way better than my original stuff though. But I draw fanart for many different games/series and it seems like people enjoy the art even if they aren't part of certain fandoms. There are bigger artists on there that only post original stuff and they do really well. Anyway I wouldn't let this post scare you off trying tumblr if you want to

No. 2105489

>>2105451
are there forums for non-corporate, non-commercial art? for discussion and sharing.

No. 2105527

>>2104693
Tumblr is fantastic if you're into a fandom. You are guaranteed followers if you post fanart. If you draw more originals, instagram is better. Twitter used to be good before elon. The post is correct that you need to be social on social media to get engagement, unless you have a very appealing style, you can't just post stuff and leave if you want to build a following. Imo building a following on any SM is not worth it anymore.

No. 2105890

File: 1722018576366.jpg (699.16 KB, 1170x1768, idolo.jpg)

Kek, what

No. 2105908

>>2105890
I really hate this artist. She encompasses the worst traits of all modern western twitter artists.
>gendie
>only draws coom
>female characters all have massive balloon tits and small dainty waists
>simplistic style that attracts children and autists
>twitter humor
>completly irony poisoned, art revolves around only whats trendy

No. 2105920

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>>2105890
The comic in question
>your brain on 10+ years of anime/tumblr/twitter porn

No. 2105927

>>2105920
Woke coomers make no sense to me

No. 2105942

>>2105920
This artstyle looks so male-ish. I wouldn't be surprised if the nsfw of her gay characters (if she even draws it..) looked the exact same.

No. 2105959

>>2105920
the legs not having feet is creeping me out, they look like amputees

No. 2106038

>>2105890
lol isn't this the same freak that drew angry birds porn years ago? she's always been a weirdo but this is off the charts.

No. 2106073

>>2105920
…is that supposed to be a sexy anthro fly?

No. 2106082

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>>2105942
>nsfw of her gay characters (if she even draws it..)
Very quick scroll but from what I see
>”lesbian” twitter artist
>99.99% of her porn is het with the exception of a couple gay/tim comics(equally as terrible)
>not a single depiction of lesbian sex, just 2 or 3 drawings of girls holding each other
>obsessed with creampies and “breeding”

No. 2106086

>>2106082
I miss the days when futa fetishists were honest.

No. 2106532

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the facial proportion of consent

No. 2106537

>>2106532
This is insane people logic kek. They look nearly the same except the red one looks like it has a big ass water head.

No. 2106538

>>2106532
i literally dont see the difference this is so fucking retarded

No. 2106540

>>2105920
God I fucking hate the “plap plap” shit. Onomatopoeias of sex in general are cringe but this one is the worst

No. 2106541

>>2106532
All toddler faced shit and looking at the pfp they are as well toddler faced

No. 2106543

File: 1722035095023.png (2.4 MB, 2048x2048, KEEEEEEEEEEEEEK.png)

>>2106532
this is one of the funniest zoomie gendie copes i have ever witnessed

No. 2106544

>>2106537
>>2106538
i think the distance between the eyes and the chin makes a huge difference actually

No. 2106550

>>2106532
This has got to be a joke.

No. 2106551

File: 1722035357665.png (547.53 KB, 782x1040, TIF cope.png)

its also one of those TIFs who thinks women reading yaoi is bad but troons watching yuri is ackshually them finding themselves and totes reclaimed by troons so its not bad. Also ofcourse shes like Addy and thinks lucky star isnt loli despite it having the toddler proportions she seethes about.

No. 2106554

>>2106551
>fujioshi
Also it's funny that she's using a lucky star gif when that show constantly treats being a lolicon like a silly joke. Hypocrite.

No. 2106560

>>2106551
>There's a difference between BL/GL and yaoi/yuri
There…there isn't, it's the same fucking thing.

No. 2106562

File: 1722035822415.png (3.62 MB, 2048x1726, GTYpE1hWcAAZzIH.png)

She posted this with her crappy sparkle dog vtuber to prove her schizo theory, but all it does is debunk it because they all look exactly the same and the first one doesnt even look loli

No. 2106566

>>2106562
Starting to think that this TIF is literally a faceblind autist.

No. 2106569

>>2106562
>>2106543
This is next level, it's the same fucking image every time I'm going crazy trying to find the supposed difference she's talking about.

No. 2106572

>>2106551
>yuri
>fetish but more reclaimed

There’s no way someone can be this retarded

No. 2106592

>>2106562
Am I reading this differently? This looks like her using her model to prove that it looks like an adult as opposed to baby/child proportions?

No. 2106614

>>2106562
Tf is this even trying to communicate

No. 2106615

>>2106532
This looks exactly the same. I hate autists who don't know what they're talking about ALWAYS trying to gatekeep things with their incomprehensible faceblind bullshit

No. 2106616

>>2106592
you are reading it wrong. The first one and second are supposed to look like children according to her logic.

No. 2106621

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>>2106562

this is their old model lmao plsssss the call is coming from inside the house

No. 2106623

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No. 2106625

>>2106532
Why do dumbasses tell on themselves like this?
'if you draw like this ur a pedo!!!!' and then it's the exact same picture. Just shut up, god.

No. 2106627

>>2104391
>silly bands
>ipad nano
Is she supposed to be from 2010?

No. 2106631

>>2106621
>>2106623
umm ackshually anon it doesnt apply to her because shes a boi she cant be a loli

No. 2106720

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>>2106562
Not me thinking her nose piercing was her nostril and she had a chimp face.

No. 2106754

File: 1722046294035.jpeg (787.02 KB, 1179x1836, IMG_2076.jpeg)

people who were theorizing that pumpkin gentlemen is actually destinytomoon, here’s more potential evidence for you, pumpkin stated in a past art that they’re Latino lmao

No. 2106760

File: 1722046506029.jpeg (45.11 KB, 423x440, C67CC4C9-4A6B-4B86-9B38-CCC201…)

>>2106754
>racefaking
Definitely a white TIF who looks like picrel

No. 2106766

>>2106754
this only keeps getting funnier

No. 2106773

File: 1722046854325.jpeg (700.16 KB, 1179x1363, IMG_2077.jpeg)

>>2106760

what kid would see this skintone and think “oooh chocolate!!” this mf is writing fanfics i swear

No. 2106776

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No. 2106818

File: 1722048263701.png (57.75 KB, 595x913, uwuimatransminor.PNG)

>>2106532
Doubling down and suddenly an uwu smoll minor

No. 2106828

>>2106818
no minor can afford a high quality vtuber model. Something like her model would go for 700 usd at the very minimun.

No. 2106835

>>2106818

you just know the aunt is fucking tired. what was the conversation like?

"people are calling me a pedo because i called them a pedo"

"why did you call them a pedo?"

"the eyes on their online digital art avatar are too big and is clearly child-like"

No. 2106838

>>2106551
>>2106554
Lucky Star is also casual/positive about girls being fujoshi. This person's a retard.

No. 2106861

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>>2106818

damn what happened to "i want to be seen as a fucking adult"

No. 2106867

>>2106861
retard you are pedobaiting just by vtubing only lolifags watch that shit

No. 2106868

File: 1722049894713.png (454.37 KB, 959x444, pdf or whatever the zoom zooms…)

>>2106562
Am I retarded, or wouldn't a proportion comparison require her to make the anime head the same size as the toddler heads? Cuz the only thing she's showing is that the image of the anime head is larger than the images of the baby heads. Picrel to show what I mean.
How old is this kid anyway? The retarded zoomzoom self sensoring (not even pdf file, just pdf kek), immedeatly proving herself wrong in the same post >>2106562 , not knowing what proportion actually means. Just screams 16-at-most to me kek (or maybe she's just turbo autist)

No. 2106881

>>2106868
i dont believe for a second shes a minor. She had two high quality live2d models, which would be over 1k. No kid has that money, shes just retarded.

No. 2107010

>>2106881
>two high quality live2d models, which would be over 1k
Damn, sometimes I wonder if I should take the vtuber, furry, or porn commissions pill. Would it be any more soulcrushing than my mindnumbing data entry job?

No. 2107146

>>2106532
>>2106543
>>2106562
Question for nonnas, how do you convey a anime person's an adult or is that impossible? Neither of the images shown feel adult to me kek.
>>2107010
That's dependant one what you're being comm'd for. If it's a niche gross fetish than yes but if it's basic vanilla pin-ups than I guess less bad? I do comms on the side and the clientele has ranged from rich autist to DnD nerds each with their own wants and needs for a comm. And the craziest part I only got two furry comms in the span of a few years. You really have to dig your toes into the community to get that payroll unlike what others claim to be true.

No. 2107227

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>>2107146
>how do you convey a anime person's an adult

Smaller eyes. Anime faces don't often change shape in most styles. That's why the only change in this >>2106532 is the eyes. Obviously they didn't make the difference significant enough and it still looks like a kid.

No. 2107232

File: 1722083430239.jpg (76.84 KB, 1024x576, img_2405-1024x576.jpg)

>>2107146

>how do you convey a anime person's an adult or is that impossible?


It's very much possible. You can acheive that by simply trying to go for slightly more realistic proportions, particularly smaller eyes, slightlymore elongated and sharper features/body, etc. But most vtubers only care about "looking cute" but in the most effortless way possible, which is to copy the typical "cute anime girl" look, which is based off childish features.

No. 2107239

File: 1722083548922.jpg (19.47 KB, 625x415, 1000005722.jpg)

>>2106776
LIKE CLOCK(able)WORK KEK. Why are trannies always racist?!

No. 2107244

File: 1722083901204.webp (41.99 KB, 602x606, 1000005723.webp)

>>2107146
You can convey that an anime character is an adult the same way as you would with a Disney character. Smaller/less rounded features with a greater distance between each other (picrel is from Barakamon which is a cute show with no scrotey pedoshit don't worry)

No. 2107324

>>2106773
Honestly the only thing that’s keeping me on the fence about Pumpkin being a tif and not a gay man is how veiny the hands are. I’ve only seen that in men. Do your hands get more veiny with testosterone??? Aside from that there’s no way Pumpkin’s blasian, probably latino. I can see her being Destinytoomoon

No. 2107333

File: 1722089747625.jpg (139.43 KB, 750x1000, flat,750x,075,f-pad,750x1000,f…)

>>2107146
It's possible. Sometimes it's clear when a drawing is made only referencing other drawings instead of real life. I can't explain myself clearly, it's like it looses resemblance to a human and the character is just an inbred loli or any other design trope.

No. 2107372

File: 1722093192285.png (1.61 MB, 2048x1726, examplee.png)

>>2107146
> how do you convey a anime person's an adult or is that impossible?
proportions and style. you can make adult cute charas but its important to stick to the face proportions even if you design a short adult woman so not to attract pedos

No. 2107373

>>2106562
>>2106621
both models look ugly and TIF-y kek

No. 2107399

This entire thread is 99% alogging and 1% decent advice and good milk.(bait/non-contribution)

No. 2107411


No. 2107420

>>2107399
Thanks for the un saged two cents

No. 2107439

>>2107411
wut
>>2107420
We’re not on /snow/, you can cut the sage faggotry

No. 2107445

>>2107439
And this is a salt thread not strictly a milk thread?

No. 2107475

>>2107010
I make good money on vtuber comms. The downside is vtubers in general are more frequent clients but also more demanding. They can be really impatient and nitpicky and their designs are complex as fuck.

No. 2107478

>>2107475
I wish I was as strong as you, nona. I think I'd kms if I had to deal with a vtuber client considering how insane their designs are.

No. 2107518

>>2107475
Is it hard doing it? Not the complex designs but like do you have to be really good at animating etc?

No. 2107530

>>2107518
nta but depends on what you want to do. you can just work with the concept and final illustration of the model, but many artists dip their toes in live2d, rigging and animating so they can charge more and attract more work

No. 2107589

Does anyone have tips on making webcomics on the ipad? And do you guys prefer tapas, making a neocities for it…? Just looking for advice

No. 2107674

File: 1722111176788.png (299.3 KB, 788x556, xgnv f.png)

Mohammed Agbadi just posted some of his "Leyendecker studies" and I'm shocked at how bad it looks. The head on the upper right corner looks inbred. How do study someone's art so badly?

No. 2107677

>>2107674

he keeps adding folds to completely random places and as a result they all look deformed as hell.

No. 2107689

>>2107674
he didnt study, he just mindlessly copied. One of the best things about leyendecker is how well his figures flow and the strong shape design. He fucked up the gesture by doing what >>2107677 said.

No. 2107690

File: 1722111876481.jpg (6.24 KB, 204x246, why.jpg)

Moid artists are such fucking energetic vampires i gotta rant. Today i was just involved in a "social experiment of sorts" as i learned this evening by a moid who likes to draw violent crap with extra balls on the side. I and mutiple people gave him critique on his idiotic business idea, he spins it saying we’re safe space loving snowfalkes because we gave reasonable opinions on why it can’t work and suddenly it’s a social experiment. Why does this person need to exist and pollute any conversation with this edgy crap. This man is 40+ years old. I was going to have a nice peaceful evening and now i’m pissed.

No. 2107694

>>2107475
Sorry for spoonfeeding request but can you and other anons point me to some foundational live2d tuts or playlists for beginners?

No. 2107695

>>2107690
What the hell kind of experiment is that? What is he testing exactly? Did he say? Nah, I guarantee he just took the easy way out to avoid feeling embarrassment. Kek

No. 2107698

>>2107518
ayrt I find that the main differentiating factor in successfulness with comms is the aesthetic quality of your final products, so somewhat. With VGen nowadays and shit people make a bigger fuss about customer service quality but ime "pretty art" trumps all. You don't HAVE to be the best to make some money, but pretty art (in whatever particular service you offer) is the X factor because in the end people will always go for the art they think is prettier, regardless of price or service. So pick out what type of art you're best at and you can use this to your advantage. The art doesn't have to be skillful, it just has to be pretty, that's how you make money with Vtubers.

No. 2107699

>>2107694
anon just hit ''live2d begginer guide'' on youtube there are millions

No. 2107700

>>2107674
The man's hand near the woman kek

No. 2107703

File: 1722112914718.png (23.69 KB, 210x237, 000_ggh_5.png)

>>2107674

This fucking face has me rolling on the ground. He looks like he has Downs Syndrome. Study or mindless copy how do you fuck up a face this badly when you got a whole reference picture to go off of?

No. 2107704

>>2107695
I guess the test was if somebody will protest his business idea and shows themselves as a crybaby or pussy or something. Like a personality test? But like it was a shit violent idea that would hurt all parties included and not contribute anything to the world but stress and probably only his joy. It was objectivly bad idea on all levels but who doesn’t like it is a snowflake. This is the type of man that boiled my blood at art schools and i was hoping i wont meet such people on internet art groups.

No. 2107705

File: 1722113050157.jpg (311.2 KB, 1280x1319, leyendecker024a.jpg)

>>2107703
He fucked up so badly, what a retard. This is the original.

No. 2107708

>>2107694
There are many out there you can try the coloso course on bilibili too but it depends on what kind of rigging you like

No. 2107710

>>2107704
Nonna if you would so graciously tell me, what kind of idea was this? I assumed he was just some average wannabe comic artist but what you described sounds like some kind of public display. Either way, irl trolls are the worst kind and you should ignore them.

No. 2107714

>>2107674
Looks pretty good, this is a nitpicky and jobless post. 2/10 for effort

No. 2107715

File: 1722113356529.png (80.48 KB, 318x381, 4794739479304044.png)

>>2107674
this woman's arm looks so wrong. it looks so tiny and short and all of those pointy ass corners and folds and edges made her silhouette look like crumpled paper. not even her coat makes sense, what the fuck is she holding? is that supposed to be a flower? a handkerchief?

No. 2107717

>>2107699
That’s the problem anon it’s a landmine of varying helpfulness. I’d love creators who can provide somewhat in-depth explanation of mechanics and efficiency, not just how to click around some buttons.
>>2107708
I don’t gotta speak chinese do I? I like a somewhat subdued realistic style.

No. 2107718

>>2107674
I feel like this guy is, or was, constantly riding off the coattails of popular artists and art drama. Gets annoying, but it got him more views, so hate the game not the player I guess.

No. 2107720

>>2107718
That's pretty much what he does kek. Has been discussed before but nowadays Agbadi's content is just art related drama and art trends, so he's just doing what he does best aka draw what gets him more attention.

No. 2107729

>>2107710
I’d rather not say if somebody from the group would be here by any chance. I’m a bit paranoid about these things. Very sorry. It it just like art pieces that he thought wouldn’t influence anybody but like it would massively influence everybody involved and only a total psychopath would think they wouldn’t. I can’t belive i’m still surprised every day that people are like this, i wish i could get used to it but somehow i can’t. The more normal and stable i become the worse it is kek

No. 2107731

>>2107715
It looks pretty fine, there’s nothing wrong with her arm. Trying to force milk out of an art piece is hilarious

No. 2107735

Waiting for these anons to show their art to prove they know anatomy. Oh wait, they don’t kekkkkk

No. 2107736

File: 1722114363806.jpg (46.45 KB, 489x750, f0a3e8e5c0cb6bd6db95b585c93d54…)

>>2107731
nta but her hand is gargantuan, picrel

No. 2107740

damn god forbid we criticize the art of someone who makes a living off criticizing others art

No. 2107744

>>2107735
the fact that you think there's nothing wrong with that drawing's anatomy is telling enough lmao.

>>2107731
if you can't handle seeing people criticize some dude's art then close the tab, snowflake.

No. 2107745

>>2107736
Yeah no it isn’t, his art looks pretty good. Having everything look 100% accurate when it comes to art is plain retarded it’s just not possible, it’s about crunching or breaking down as much information as possible so it makes sense for the artist and the viewer. I think this is why it’s called “stylization”, even in painting if you looked closely it’s different components that make a general impression of what you’re looking at, up close it looks like globs of paint but afar you can tell what it is. More proof none of you motherfuckers have a passion for art and only think drawing anime girls in blank space is peak art kek

No. 2107746

>>2107745
its not his art he copied leyendecker

No. 2107747

>>2107729
Don't worry about it nonna, I totally understand, I was just curious. This sounds cartoonishly outlandish from what you've told me. Best thing for your psyche is to just kek it off as another screwup of human creativity and move on, don't let him impact you especially if it was just some 'experiment' he did for a laugh.

No. 2107748

>>2107745

Learn to sage if you're not gonna add milk

No. 2107750

>>2107744
You can criticize, I can rebuttal your criticism and disagree. The only snowflake is you trying to find anything wrong in something that looks infinitely better posted here and I’m pretty sure that dude knows what he’s doing. You people spend way too much time trying to find something there that isn’t, just go to /snow/ for these nitpicks kek

No. 2107753

>>2107748
>ADD MILK ADD MILK!!!!!!
This isn’t a thread for milk you fucking newfag this is a general art thread where you can ask for advice and give your own feedback. Your brain is rotten

No. 2107754

>>2107748
to be fair, sageing isn't an obligation on ot or m.
on-topic, his art is just meh to me.

No. 2107756

>>2107750
NTA but do you not know who leyendecker is? because >>2107674 isnt his art, its studies from J.C Leyendecker. His real art >>2103162 >>2103178 looks nothing like it. People are criticizing him for copying a good artist without understanding what hes trying to study.

No. 2107761

>>2107750

>I’m pretty sure that dude knows what he’s doing

>>2103162
>>2103178

He sure does.

No. 2107765

File: 1722115090564.jpeg (205.82 KB, 953x536, IMG_1957.jpeg)

>>2107756
No way, Leyendecker? What is he going to do?? Nooo!!! kek. It looks fine compared to what he was referencing, doesn’t have to be an exact copy. If he wanted to do a “study” it would mainly be based on Leyendecker’s painting style, not his anatomy. So basically who cares about these autistic nitpicks, get some actual milk or stfu

No. 2107766

>>2107745
Her palm alone is literally the size of her entire face. Sorry but the hand is objectively too big and the forearm appears to have no bone.

No. 2107767

File: 1722115183518.jpg (302.62 KB, 991x724, 990822.jpg)

>>2107765
>If he wanted to do a “study” it would mainly be based on Leyendecker’s painting style, not his anatomy.

>Agbadi literally mentions studying specifically the forms and not the painting


You're fucking delusional lmaooooooooo

No. 2107768

>>2107766
Nta and I’m not a fan of the picture but that’s the size of the palms be though.

No. 2107774

File: 1722115337331.png (151.04 KB, 316x311, Screenshot 2024-07-27 142003.p…)

He is kinda a hit-or-miss to me, the knees and face on the girl here irk me

No. 2107778

>>2107767
>t. soywoman getting angry at non-milk in /ot/
Basically what I said but you said it a second time in different words.

No. 2107781

BTW this guy that draws nothing but coomery women with wasp waists and lymphedema thigs and ass made a 19 minute video criticizing kooleen for ''only drawing attractive people''. But how dare we say anything bad about this coomer's art we are just meanie boolies

No. 2107783

File: 1722115597376.jpeg (96.52 KB, 735x442, IMG_1959.jpeg)

I am agbadipilled, wyd fundiecels???

No. 2107787

>>2107774
Samefag, he did say he prefers drawing men so i guess that explains why his women look like shit. (not that the guy in picrel is amazing but… Whatever.) So he probably only draws women when there's also a bottle of lotion in his hand. I think he is kinda a coomer but not up in your face about it… Yet at least.

No. 2107802

File: 1722116664200.png (1.49 MB, 1354x1667, coomer moid.png)

>>2107787
> he did say he prefers drawing men
then why is half his gallery coomerfied women? all coomer moids are faggots, but the worst ones are the ones that claim a moral high ground while doing the exact same shit they criticize others for. He criticized koolen for not drawing people with black features, yet all his black women have european features and have animu pug profiles.

No. 2107803

>>2107802
I like his rendering

No. 2107804

File: 1722116798741.png (1 MB, 1132x787, nailed it.png)

>>2107768
hope this helps

No. 2107806

>>2107803
its the most generic rendering style on earth

No. 2107808

>>2107804
kek the way he fucked up the arm and made it stiff and completly straight

No. 2107810

>>2107804
Looks about the same
>>2107806
And anime doesn’t look generic?

No. 2107813

>>2107810
nona where are you getting this anime thing? no one here even mentioned anime

No. 2107814

>>2107813

Something something "you criticize my fav coomer artist so I accuse you of being an animefag for no reason other than yes"

No. 2107821

>>2107810
>And anime doesn’t look generic?
anime has the exact same type of rendering style

No. 2107822

File: 1722117409680.jpeg (444.12 KB, 750x829, IMG_1962.jpeg)

You would get hit by a car just by walking across the street

No. 2107823


No. 2107828

>>2107814
Learn2format newfag. I know that nonmilk makes you giddy but stop with that spacing shit
>>2107821
No it doesn’t. Even more proof none of you draw or care about art

No. 2107830

>>2107828
Then enlighten us, O'Wise Nona, Mightiest of the Agbadi Whiteknights, Coomerest of the Coomerfags. Show us what the real art of someone who really cares about art is like, share your immaculate taste with us peasants.

No. 2107832

>>2107828
>No it doesn’t.
its literally just soft shading. Funny you call others nodraws when you are the one easily impressed by the most basic rendering style.

No. 2107838

File: 1722118032544.jpeg (77.83 KB, 602x445, IMG_1966.jpeg)

>>2107830
Trve art coming right up. Unironically more soulful and fun than the boring traditional shit, you can tell it’s more for the people than the ego

No. 2107840

>>2107810
NTA but his rendering is literally black airbrush with pops of orange and blue highlights if any with no coherent light source because all the people he draws are in a void. It's very bland and generic even compared to people who use similar techniques. It has the "look guys I'm a real artist look at my floating heads" feeling to it.
>>2107828
>NEWFAG!!!!REEEE WHERES YOUR MILK
>doesn't know this is a offtopic non-milk thread made for people to bitch about random art accounts and trends and discussion of art as a whole and has been this way since the first thread

No. 2107843

>>2107832
Those are sketches anon. They aren’t rendered, because most of those are sketches. Most anime/manga is a final product.

No. 2107846

>>2107838
Weak bait, moving on

No. 2107847

>>2107843
they meant his finished work, not his studies

No. 2107849

>>2107840
Then why are you the type of faggots complaining that nobody is saging like it’s /snow/? Now you got the retarded farmhands banning people for “noncontributions” like it’s a cow thread.

No. 2107850

Theres no way the retard defending him isnt baiting kek. The woman in the original Leyndecker didn’t have a stiff straight arm but here this dumbass comes and says there’s no difference between the two pictures

No. 2107853

>>2107850
>Theres no way the retard defending him isnt baiting kek
never doubt the perseverance of a true retarded whiteknight

No. 2107855

>>2107846
>weak bait
>bait is now extremely different opinion
>let’s go back to the boring nitpicks of someone’s art
You’re the cancer killing the internet. You’re addicted to low hanging fruit and nitpicking like the elderly slaving away at slot machines in a casino waiting for the next dopamine hit.

No. 2107859

>>2107855
Got better milk to share then?

No. 2107865

>>2107859
let her seethe nona, this is fucking funny to watch

No. 2107866

>>2107859
I thought this was a “offtopic non-milk thread made for people to bitch about random art accounts and trends and discussion of art as a whole and has been this way since the first thread” so why would I need milk? My point is that you fags keep treating it like a thread that needs milk and the “milk” you come up with is boring and pointless.

No. 2107871

>>2107866
NTA but have you noticed that your complaining about it only makes it go on and on? If you find this topic boring or if the "nitpicking" is triggering you that badly then by all means introduce another topic instead of obsessively complaining about it to others and making yourself seem like a joke.

No. 2107872

File: 1722118841928.jpeg (54.16 KB, 274x350, IMG_1968.jpeg)

I remember times when you would bring up some random shit about picrel and some autist comes in giving you interesting historical facts and it starts a genuine convo instead of it being the same circlejerk with ugly man psyop takes or “zomg look at what that retard did on twitter111!!!!!!” like we get it but this balloon art goes incredibly hard

No. 2107875

File: 1722118984845.jpg (742.48 KB, 1017x1635, lolcow, killing the internet s…)

>>2107849
I'm not. That singular post was probably banned because it was someone butting in to bitch about the thread.
>>2107855
Everyone who knows Jeff Koons hates him for a reason. Weak bait.
>let’s go back to the boring nitpicks of someone’s art
>cancer
This thread is nitpick central. Artist Salt not Artist Big Brained Intellectual Smart Talk Time

No. 2107876

>>2107783
What's wrong with this picture? It's just heavily stylized comic/cartoon proportions.

No. 2107877

>>2107872
it like a toy you would get out of a japanese gachapon machine it looks like shit

No. 2107878

oh please nonas, stop responding to the bait, just ignore it and move on

No. 2107885

>>2107876
There’s nothing wrong with his work kek, you just have to pick and choose what you want to look at it unfortunately with many moid artists.

No. 2107890

>>2107877
>it’s like a toy you would get out of a jap toy machine
That’s why it’s fun, bitterfag

No. 2107892

>>2107875
So you agree? You’re just as fucking retarded as the people you talk about? KEK

No. 2107894

>>2107890
its not worth 42k

No. 2107899

>>2107892
the gall to come to the art SALT thread, the one place for people to nitpick and bitch about art and artists they dislike, and then start malding that people are nitpicking and being salty over art that they dislike. omfg learn how to read or close the tab already.

No. 2107905

>>2107899
The gall, the audacity, the gumption

No. 2107908

File: 1722119828661.jpeg (Spoiler Image,17.4 KB, 513x598, images - 2024-07-28T083527.055…)

>>2107890
I don't think you actually know much about Koons, otherwise you'd know that all of his art isn't actually made by him and that he's a mega coomer who commissioned statues and massive photographs of him and his ex-wife having sex and works like picrel which he puts in his exhibits, there's a sex tape of his floating around that involves a live snake. He is no artist, he used to work in advertising and he is the equivalent of those rich Renaissance merchants who wanted paintings.

No. 2107919

>>2107908
they are really trying to pass anime coomer figurines as high art now

No. 2107921

>>2107908
I support the slaves who made his sculptures, doesn’t change how fun the balloon dog is. I’m pretty sure Leyendecker had some skeletons too that nobody was able to dig up

No. 2107923

File: 1722120321906.jpeg (Spoiler Image,26.25 KB, 609x503, images - 2024-07-28T084058.725…)

>>2107908
Now, having a team behind the art you produce isn't wholly bad. Picrel is Patricia Piccinini's work who employs people who are very skilled at working with silicone, however unlike Koons Piccinini does all the sketches and ideas and overlooks the entire process, and initially made these herself by hand, Koons just says "I want this" and other people do all the preliminary work. There's also zero depth to his art, which is the point you could could argue but that's also really fucking lazy.

No. 2107928

>>2107921
> I’m pretty sure Leyendecker had some skeletons too that nobody was able to dig up
he made good art though, and was a fag

No. 2107933

>>2107923
Yesss autist-chan has arrived to the function
>>2107928
Subjective, his art looks like the typical boring mid century/art deco paintings they would probably hang up in their living rooms.

No. 2107936

>>2107933
imagine praising fucking ballon dog statues made by the chinese slaves of a coomer moid but thinking leyendecker is boring

No. 2107937

>>2107936
That’s incredibly racist, I’m pretty sure he had workers who weren’t Chinese.

No. 2107939

>>2107937
his crap is manufactured in china

No. 2107952

>>2107146
The start would be not drawing a flat dorito face in the first place. I swear most anime artsyles today look like absolute shit.

No. 2107964

File: 1722121864516.jpeg (45.38 KB, 678x452, images - 2024-07-28T091023.105…)

>>2107933
I'm always here.
>>2107939
Nah, he actually has decent enough work ethics which is somewhat surprising because he looks, sounds and acts like a evil millionaire otherwise (picrel). He probably does overwork the 30 or so people in his studio though.
>>2107919
Entirely the fault of the 80s and pop art. American Psycho types love that vapid gross shit.

No. 2107966

>>2107964
if hes so rich why doesnt he spend moeny on a wig, bald faggot

No. 2107973

>>2107964
Isn’t it typically normal to have a bunch of workers assemble your art pieces of you’re a commercial artist??? I don’t get this “muh originality” stance, uh yeah they need tons of workers to get an art installation done kek

No. 2107978

>>2107774
The dude looks like a fucking homunculus. His ass is growing out of his mid back.

No. 2107980

>>2107774
why does the pink haired chick's nose look like a huge infected cyst?

No. 2107986

>>2107802
KEK the ass on the bottom left. Looks glued on

No. 2107995

>>2106773
>>2106776

delulu dumbass, he's the one who looks like he tastes like rice kek

No. 2107999

File: 1722123480650.jpeg (38.04 KB, 678x453, images - 2024-07-28T093700.914…)

>>2107973
I said it's fine in >>2107923 But because he's working strictly within the material frame as he himself has said his works have no meaning but he also doesn't make any portion himself besides the initial instruction, he's kind of like the gift shop of fine art, which I guess is the whole point of it. The only thing you can critique it on is the quality of the work, which is actually pretty well made for its purpose, and whether or not you like the literal meaninglessness of the work. In other words, I just hate his branding

No. 2108019

>>2107999
I enjoyed your take nonny, thank you.

No. 2108050

File: 1722126147544.png (151.21 KB, 902x430, TB.png)

Why are there so many Trevor Brown defenders on Lolcow? I have noticed that even here male artists get cocksucked despite being shitty scrotes, while female artists get hated for way less. And i dont mean the pumpkin tif who are funny lolcows with shit tier art, i mean artists like mgong.

No. 2108058

>>2108050
Just looking at picrel, doll faced "damaged" looking sick girl with stick thin limbs and instathot face. Take a wild guess why a bunch of mentally damaged pickmes would love it

No. 2108064

>>2108058
its honestly really sad how these ''hurt, mentally ill little girl'' trends are always started by men. The creator of the menhera subculture is also a scrote. Wish men would stop trying to capitalize on mentally ill women.

No. 2108071

>>2108064
On the plus side, the women who identify with moid designed mentally ill girls are almost always terrible people, so you've got a perfect indicator of who to steer clear of.

No. 2108074

>>2108058
>”if you like (x) you’re a pickme”
You sound just as insufferable as the people you hate, I hope you’re aware

No. 2108078

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No. 2108080

>>2108074
lol, here they come. projecting onto a man's fantasy of mentally ill little girls and teen girls who cut themselves is primo pickme shit

No. 2108086

>>2108078
that ''chad'' face is pathetic he should read loomis

No. 2108089

>>2108074
Unself-aware pickme detected

No. 2108108

>>2108064
What if you like menhera on male characters?

No. 2108109

>>2108050

They claimed that you can't find women who do creepy cute art like that but honestly that's because women don't find it sexually gratifying to depict little kids getting physically and sexually tortured like that freak does. I wish he still lived in the UK so some chav could shank him to death bekinski style.

No. 2108111

>>2108108
why are you asking, who cares

No. 2108112

>>2108078
It's Chad to be a pedophile I guess

No. 2108127

>>2108050
I feel the opposite, we have a lot of mgong defenders, as it should, I am one of them and I think she's skilled and creative, I don't care for some of her questionable art. I just ignore and enjoy the rest. I think some anons have way too high expectations when it comes to female artists. They want them to be skilled and for their ideals to align perfectly, which is unlikely to happen. Trevor Brown is trash though, many other artists did the creepy doll art better than him.

No. 2108132

>>2108111
I can ask what I want.
Why do you think I care if you specifically don't like it? Just dont answer lol.

No. 2108140

>>2108132
male menhera art hurts no one so its obviously not comparable to men fetishizing mentally ill little girls, why do you even need to ask for our approval when everyone will tell you that its not the same

No. 2108151

>>2108140
I wasn't asking for your approval, don't think so highly of yourself lol.
I was trying to ask for the pov thinking it might be interesting or funny but it seems like there's nothing to get out of you.

No. 2108153

>>2108151
let me guess you expected to get braindead ''based!!1!'' responses and got angry when told n1currs

No. 2108160

>>2108108
i think i've seen some female artists that drew menhera males but its always low quality art with the shitty tearzah tier body
unless you mean someone who just likes the art instead of someone who draws it?

No. 2108173

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I don't know why it's always Trevor Brown, and not Marion Peck or Mark Ryden (picrel was painted by both) or the many female lowbrow surrealists that make creepy cute art and menhera style works that people flock to. Like I understand that some of his looks nice but how can you enjoy it with the knowledge some pedo pervert made it?

No. 2108193

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>>2108173
I honestly can't tell what he has that the artists you mentioned or cogumeli don't

No. 2108197

>>2108193
i assume its the japanese influence since most ddlg pickmes are weebs

No. 2108204

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>>2108050
"Creepy cute" art isn't even hard to find. You'd think anons would fixate on something more tasteful than pedophilic art made by a white scrote with a fetish for young Asian girls

No. 2108207

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>>2108204
There's plenty of female artists that do creepy cute as well

No. 2108210

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>>2108204
Ruby gloom is miles cuter than any toddler bdsm edgy crap trevor shits out. I always wondered why these pickmes gravitate to shit like diapers martinez, trevor brown or anime girls from fanservice shows when ruby gloom is right there, then i realized that its because its a fetish to them. They dont like the creepy-cute aesthetic just because its adorable and gothy, they just get off to self inserting as beaten asian children and babies.

No. 2108211

>>2108173
I'm guessing it's because Trevor Brown's artwork is edgier and darker in its subject matter.

No. 2108215

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>>2108210
obligatory mention

No. 2108220

>>2108173
Personally idgaf who made a pretty picture as long as I can still print it out for free. Chances are
You guys like some kind of media from someone who is problematic so it's best not to care too much about moralfagging about it imo.

No. 2108226

>>2108215
there is also the entirity of monster high they can obsess over

No. 2108228

>>2108220
there is a difference between liking something made by a creep and liking actually creepy art of toddlers in bondage gear and with black eyes like what trevor brown draws

No. 2108231

>>2108220
I mean, yeah, but none of my problematic faves draw shit like a beat up topeless toddler proportioned child with a massive needle dildo attached to their shorts. I'm not attaching a pic because I don't think farmhands would like it.

No. 2108232

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>>2108207
I love Junko Mizuno's art!
>>2108210
I genuinely believe teenage girls need gothic mascot characters. I hate menhera-chan (and menhera as a whole) but she fills a niche that isn't being filled right now for a lot of people.

No. 2108235

>>2108231
Im obviously talking about his non pedo art.

No. 2108239

>>2108232
most menhera chan fans are fat women over 20 like addy though, the author is also a pedophile who encourages his underage fans to prostitute themselves and almost bullied a woman into suicide. Its also not healthy for teens to obsess over a character that promotes self harm. I would rather teens rediscover ruby gloom, lenore, skelanimals, hell even Anna Blue is less cringe than menhera chan

No. 2108240

>>2108235
>non pedo art.
literally all he draws is litte girls though

No. 2108241

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>>2108232
>>2108215
>>2108210
>>2108207
>>2108204
>>2108173
I made a thread for creepy cute art because I love this topic
>>>/m/405586

No. 2108245

>>2108239
Oh no, I agree. I don't like the character or the creator at all. I'm just saying that's why she's as big as she is right now.

No. 2108246

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>>2108240
Er I understand he’s a pedo and has pedo pieces but some of his art doesn’t exactly register to me as “pedo” just because it has a young girl in it.

No. 2108248

>>2108246
she has a bsdm choker anon…

No. 2108251

>>2108248
I’m not into BDSM anon…..I just thought it was a choker with a maggot on it.

No. 2108254

File: 1722139255779.png (961.93 KB, 794x1153, bdsm collar.png)

>>2108251
its kinda sad this degenerate cant keep his degeneracy out of his art for a single second. The whole alice in wonderland motif makes it creepier since pedos LOVE using alice in wonderland as a pedo dogwhistle. The fact that he used CP being legal in Japan when he moved in makes me think he moved to Japan specifically because CP was legal. Just a creepy dude overall.

No. 2108256

>>2108254
Chokers similar in style to this being used in fashion doesn’t exactly help either.

No. 2108257

>>2107690
>>2107704
Block any moid artist when they do such crap, they don’t worth the time and nerves.

No. 2108258

>>2108246
i thought this was just a choker with a croissant charm

No. 2108261

>>2108258
>>2108251
Is that not a horseshoe? Kek

No. 2108263

File: 1722140306370.jpg (119.54 KB, 618x900, Eye-candy.jpg)

>>2108207
Obligatory Nicoletta Ceccoli mention
a few of her works do kinda give me the ick though…

No. 2108273

>>2108204
i love this album

No. 2108332

>>2108273
It's Jack off Jill, right? Throwback

No. 2108357

>>2108273
yessss same here

No. 2108390

>>2108078
God I hate this artist. Bet he has a huge loli porn collection despite making himself out to be a hecking wholesome sfw artist. He only draws lolis too so why is no one noticing this.

No. 2108397

>>2108390
>despite making himself out to be a hecking wholesome sfw artist
Really? Just looked him up and all his art is lolis being sexualized in some way

No. 2108403

>>2108390
Wdym why is nobody noticing? Most people know him as the loli gf meme guy, they just don't care

No. 2108404

>>2108390
this faggot was banned by twitter because hes the creator behind the "my child gf" meme everyone knows hes a pedophile

No. 2108495

>>2107866
I’m the anon who originally made the #1 thread and my intention was always that nonas could tag onto fandom discourse-related discussions without having to explicitly bring in new milk. Regardless, please stop arguing about it. It’s a silly moot point.

No. 2108559

>>2108495
Same anon: my bad. I had two tabs open on two different threads and got them mixed up. Please ignore my idiotic error kek

No. 2108603

File: 1722169425800.png (13.6 KB, 736x210, AFconfessions.png)

Heads up to everyone using the pastures tag that they've snitched on you

No. 2108614

>>2108603
this is why we can't have nice things

No. 2108625

>>2108603
>(not proud of myself)
Kek, hello lurker. Don't be shy, make a post ripping into us for being le evil terves! It'll show us!

No. 2108631

>>2108603
KEK what a fucking coward. If you're going to lurk and snitch then at least be proud about it instead of trying to make yourself seem "innocent". Pathetic.

No. 2108636

>>2108603
The jig is out, nonnas. We've been ratted out.

No. 2108638

>>2108636
What are they gonna do though? Make south park drawings of our ocs holding transbian flags?

No. 2108642

>>2108603
Wait, were you guys using that tag to find other farmer artists? Wtf why am I always late to everything

No. 2108644

>>2108638
I know you're joking but realistically they could report everyone to the mods for being 'transphobic' and get them banned. Would love to see that energy for the moids over on /ic/ directly linking to their profiles but they'll never care what men are doing

No. 2108645

>>2108642
We've been talking about using the pastures tag for a couple of weeks now, the Snitch is horribly late to the party.

No. 2108647

>>2108603
i fucking hate these retards. if ic had/has own artfight tag they wouldn't do anything although 4chan is way more vile place than lolcow, but since lolcow is a female space that doesn't support trannies (oh horror, right, women should be accommodating to everyone!11) they just can't leave us be and let us enjoy things.
If you are reading this, lurker, stick to what you know - tiktok and tumblr. If this place is so offensive, why even lurk here? According to some of your people, it makes you just as bad as us if you even dare to read what we have to say

No. 2108649

>>2108644
Women can say the most lukewarm normies takes on gender and they'll get more scrutiny than a man who unironically says woman are trash with a "cishet" and "white" attached to make it less sexist.

No. 2108657

>>2108647
Here's the thing: they're scared of 4chan scrotes. Because we're women who don't spam CP they think we're easy prey. Imagine a tiny 4'11 bitch screaming at you: she wouldn't try to pick a fight if you weren't also a woman. It doesn't matter if you're twice her size, women always think other women won't beat the shit out of them. They think you'll play nice and tolerate their behavior because you're also female. When you physically retaliate they're shocked. They don't respect other women the way they respect men.

No. 2108673

>>2108603

I never see this energy towards moids

No. 2108681

>>2108673
>>2108649

nonnies don't you get it?! The ic scrotes are just radqueers healthily expressing their sexuality uwu! If you shame them for drawing gangrape loli porn you're sex shaming and queerphobic!

No. 2108688

>>2108603
Nvm found it. It has a whole of 8 notes, so it's nothing.

No. 2108696

>>2108657
it's understandable, but hell it's so sad. they really don't know that the ones they are hating so much on are the ones who were in their place before most likely, like horrible terfs they hate so much can only laugh about some of their takes and rarely even do anything. cowtipping, interacting with them and especially doing something bad to them is against the rules and in general not tolerated here. just like they throw us under the bus over everything, it's their peers who will ruin their life over every mistake they eventually will do (because the line in those spaces is this thin) to earn some brownie points. all they do is just pretending to do the right thing in a safe way which is going after some women who just want to have something to themselves and not actually meaningful actions like going against moids jacking it to loli out in the open because they can actually retaliate. they really don't care about justice or doing the right thing at all

No. 2108704

>>2108673
Being a woman is being under unnecessary scrutiny 24/7, sometimes I envy moids because they can do and say whatever they want while looking ugly and unhinged and no one bats an eye. To be a man is to be uncancellable, just look at how many podcasts with mysogynistic dudebro content creators there are, no one does shit about it. But be a woman that dared to stare wrongly at something or dared to speak up about anything and you'll be put in place. They have it so easy, even shitty famous people that do disgusting shit like Drake or whoever will eventually be absolved and they'll continue their careers like nothing happened, maybe with a little bit of hate, but that's nothing compared to what regular women have to face when they're othered. Make a mistake as a woman and you're branded as evil forever. I don't even think women are capable of the degree of degeneracy that men, normal men on the street, partake in. The world is so dire. And the worst part is that female solidarity feels like a joke, a myth, a goal that will never come to be because a lot of women don't treat other women kindly. There's real loneliness to being a woman. You either become a people pleaser, have surface level relationships, go the cool girl / nlog route and try the befriend men who see you as unequal, or denounce womanhood in some way; but society is shit and no matter what you do being a woman is something you can never fully escape. I hate it honestly, I hate the gaze. I hope anyone that reads this unnecessary long and retarded post has a nice day and kind, loving, understanding women in their lives to rely on so they don't feel so lost like I do.

No. 2108710

>>2108603
I'm the anon that created that tag. I figured this was going to happen but it did happen a lot later that I thought kek. Lurker-chan, why can't you just leave us alone? Go do an exposé on the 4chan artfight thread pedos, gooners, and racists or something. But as usual, the biggest sin is to be a woman that wants to be around other like-minded women who do not worship the cult of pronouns or men in dresses. Fucking grim

No. 2108718

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Don't fret artfight nonnas do what anyone would do make a new encrypted tag.. you know how

No. 2108721

>>2108710
Sorry anon, they always have to ruin everything. I never used the tag but I did find and follow a few anons from here and have drawn for one of them so far and I appreciated the idea.

No. 2108723

I'm grateful I never did artfight lmao. All this drama feeds me more than the art fights.

No. 2108735

>>2108723
I didn't either because I completely forgot art fight was even a thing until last week but I think it would be fun to draw for other nonnas

No. 2108743

>>2108735
Why not make a thread here of it here? I'm more suprised nonnas didn't think it'd be found out that some users were coming from lc since most tourists often visit ot also kek at the lurker making us seem so fucking worse than the users who are pedos and zooshits using artfight. handmaidens truly are the worst

No. 2108817

>>2108603
It was fun until the end though
nonas you were all so nice

No. 2108819

>>2108625
Who wants to bet that this is a troon who comes on here to shittalk their fellow troon and gendie friends behind their backs kek

No. 2108844

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No. 2108876

I just saw a local popular "kawaii" artist's realistic drawings they did for a commission and they looked so bad, it made my petty little heart so happy to see that despite them being more popular I'm objectively better at drawing than them kek. Good for them that they found a kawaii niche though.

No. 2108908

Struggling with what I should do for artfight. I know it's almost over but I'm deeply crypto (pronouns in bio, no transphobia in my perms but as the bottom last part). Feel like I'm missing out on interacting with like-minded people because of it, but I make too much money off of comms from troons to want to change that now.

No. 2108918

>>2108908
Just don't mention anything related to troonism and don't touch the poop. I don't have any pronouns on my profile and I only attack nice looking characters with no pronouns and I haven't gotten any flak or anything. This is my third year on AF as well

No. 2108921

>>2108603
legit question why are you anons so scared of being outted as transphobes? not to be rude but it doesnt seem like any of you do art for a living, so why even care if some troon knows you are a terf

No. 2108928

>>2108918
>>2108921
I've been doing art professionally (only about $600-800 a month in commissions, but I don't want to lose that source of income) for about 3 years now, and do artfight for fun for the past 7 I think. Terves are not as wealthy as furry troons with programmer money. I just worry that changing big things like that will be noticeable now since I have an established presence in a relatively small fandom.

No. 2108934

>>2108921
I'm not scared of being labeled a terf, but places like artfight will straight up ban you for offsite content or "bad" opinions. Just trying to avoid being banned from the few art spaces we have left online tbh. I don't think it's fair that we can't be included in spaces just because we don't suck tranny dick

No. 2108936

>>2108928
it really sucks women cant say shit while moids artists are allowed to be openly misogynistic and coomers and get virtually 0 repercusion

No. 2108938

>>2108918
>>2108921
I've been doing art professionally (only about $600-800 a month in commissions, but I don't want to lose that source of income) for about 3 years now, and do artfight for fun for the past 7 I think. Terves are not as wealthy as furry troons with programmer money. I just worry that changing big things like that will be noticeable now since I have an established presence in a relatively small fandom.>>2108928
Also worth adding that I'm not a radfem, I'm just a woman who doesn't like trannies so I feel like I'm nobody's cuppa actually

No. 2108939

>>2108908
They won't hate you for removing the pronouns in your bio anon. And including stuff like "no transphobia" seems really over the top. You could change it to "no bigotry" but I don't understand permissions like that since it's not allowed on artfight anyways. I wouldn't do anything to sacrifice your commissions but you don't need to fake it that hard. There's a normie middle ground between terf and troon

No. 2108943

>>2108939
Yeah, I think Ill just go and reword things to be a little more ambiguous, and take pronouns down. I don't want to be 'they/them'd but I also don't want to be lumped in with the gendered ones.

No. 2108946

File: 1722187528307.gif (2.06 MB, 498x276, hug.gif)

It makes me sad to see all the nonnies sucking tranny dick to be able to make rent money. When i was about to get into Magic the gathering I found out a lesbian artist was fired for not wanting trannies in female spaces, ofcourse that alone stopped me from buying their overpriced cardboard. I wish i won a million dollars, i would found a small indie game studio and hire all of you to work for me while i do the coding. Stay strong nonnies dont let the troons take you down.

No. 2108960

>>2108946
ot, but that gif always makes me laugh

No. 2108968

>>2108960
its the best thing to come out of the shayna thread

No. 2108975

>>2108603
I knew this was going to happen eventually but I still really enjoyed looking at the art and ocs anons here made. Hi lurker faggot, too scared to pick on the 4channers?

No. 2108982

>>2108603
I've connected to at least one of you and she has been really sweet as a mutual so far, thank you.

No. 2108989

>>2108960
Lol I felt retarded laughing. Glad to know I wasn’t the only one

No. 2108991

>>2108921
I have TRA friends and I would like to keep them. I also don’t want to be harassed by gendie zoomers wherever I go. I know everyone says to grow a thicker skin and not let twitter freaks get to you but I just want to be able to enjoy sharing my art with other people in peace without dealing with any of that or bringing politics into it.

No. 2108994

>>2108991
>I have TRA friends
Get normal friends, what is wrong with you anons having these girldick sucking friends??

No. 2108996

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>>2107674
Oh the irony of seeing a much better version on my feed so soon after seeing that one, kek

No. 2108999

>>2108996
finally someone who understands what a study is!!! fucking finally!!!

No. 2109001

>>2108999
>someone who understands what a study is
post art or gtfo

No. 2109002

>>2109001
Why don’t you go back to /ic/

No. 2109003

>>2108999
A study is just for practicing and understanding that artist. I don't like that youTuber guy but judging a study is like judging a practice sketch; we all start from somewhere and the more you do it the better you'll be.

No. 2109004

>>2108994
I would if I could, I’d love to see the non-gendie female artist communities out there with the same interests as me. I only talk to the normaller types who don’t shove gendie stuff into every discussion, but it’s nigh impossible to find other female artists who disapprove of troon stuff, much less outright terfs.

No. 2109007

>>2108994
NTA but I wish it was that easy. In my area, the arts have such a strong TRA presence that it's unavoidable.

No. 2109010

>>2109003
I'm not judging the study's quality. A study is a study, an exercise to understand the reference work/the methods that the referenced artist has used. Agbadi's "study" isn't a study because while he claims to have studied Leyendecker's forms, none of it shows in his work because he didn't try to understand any of it, the fact the literally added random folds to clothing and make frankly bizarre choices regarding body proportions and stylization being more than enough to show that he wasn't studying Leyendecker's work, he was just mindlessly copying it. If Agbadi had been genuinely studying it, then I guarantee you the result would've looked much different.

No. 2109011

>>2109002
>can’t draw
>thinks they know what a study is

No. 2109013

>>2109010
still seething about agbadi’s study day 2 or 3 kekkk

No. 2109015

>>2108994
There's also the issue of TIMs going around doxxing women who don't bow down to them, and potentially trying to harm them/make them lose their jobs/etc. Having normal friends sure, fine, but being openly anti troon is potentially life threatening.

No. 2109016

>>2109013
lmao you're no better

No. 2109017

i will post work if the abgadi defender posts her work first

No. 2109020

>>2108921
I'm friends of friends of friends with the most insane TRAs, the exact type people are bemoaning about regularly here. I've been slowly cutting them and the original people who've unleashed them in my life off for the past year or so because they're the type of people to have a tanty when blocked. That's why I didn't join the tag in the first place, because I'd be interrogated over it.
>>2109013
The people seething over the people seething are so annoying please just fucking ignore it if you don't want to see it.

No. 2109021

>>2108050
Kek, the Trevor Brown defending anons are the reason I headed to this thread for the first time. Always thought his art was sickening, the product of some moid who is probably turned on by domestic abuse. Bruises, cuts, and bandages on cutesy faces say it all.

No. 2109022

>>2109017
Seconding that. I'll happily show my art if the Agbadi Whiteknight shows off her stuff first. She must definitely be an excellent artist considering the claims she's making about others.

No. 2109023

>>2109020
>please just ignore it
>”DNI IF YOU (xyz)
no different at all KEK

No. 2109026

>>2109021
he's an admitted pedophile too

No. 2109028

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>>2109023
>comparing me to people who say radfems should be correctively raped by girldick because I'm tired of the retarded infight
Okay.

No. 2109032

File: 1722192243515.webp (Spoiler Image,16.11 KB, 234x360, IMG_1972.webp)

Ugh fine since you fuckers asked for my art

No. 2109034

>>2109032
wow i cant compete agaisnt this masterpiece, you win queen

No. 2109035

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>>2109032
good but mine is better

No. 2109037

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>>2109035
I win.

No. 2109042

>>2109037
Would you fuck that. Someone has to say they would fuck that before I say it to quell my anxiety

No. 2109044

>>2109003
We’re judging him because he has an entire YouTube channel dedicated to ‘schooling’ other artists on how to draw and yet his own basic studies look abysmally shitty and way off-model. He’s free game, cry about it.

No. 2109046

>>2109037
AI could never conjure something this magnificently grotesque. I am in awe.

No. 2109047

>>2109042
no, but you do you queen.

No. 2109048

>>2109046
His NSFW is the man-made horrors beyond comprehension Tesla warned us about.

No. 2109053

>>2109044
>he has a youtube account schooling other artists
He has a YouTube account dedicated to boring art drama from twitter, he doesn’t specifically dunk on artists’ skills unless you’re confusing him with Ethan Becker. You clearly don’t even watch or follow his content and keep seething over it, look at you constantly talking about it while the study is still there racking up views and likes KEK. That has to be the ultimate fail ngl

No. 2109056

>>2109053
> That has to be the ultimate fail
i havent heard anyone use ''fail'' since the early 2010s

No. 2109061

>>2109056
You’ve never heard of anybody time traveling before?

No. 2109062

I undercharged again. It was for a friend so I felt bad asking for more and I chickened out and asked for $10 less than the price I had in my head. It's getting to the point where I need to charge three digit prices but I just can't think of myself as worth it, but that's what doing $2 commissions when you're 16 does to you I guess. I'm glad I at least had the courage to ask for more than 100 on this next commission.

No. 2109065

>>2109062
You can get rid of that guilt by getting a job though

No. 2109070

>>2109065
I'm employed, commissions are just a valuable income supplement because I live in a state where the minimum wage is still $7.25 and my pay isn't much better.

No. 2109073

>>2109070
Get your bread up anon

No. 2109075

>>2109053
Mohammed Agbadi… so it really is you… what’s up, faggot?

No. 2109077

>>2109075
Hey cuz how u feelin??? What’s up mane

No. 2109090

>>2109062
You need to be more shameless anon, people can decide for themselves if your art is worth it. I also feel bad charging more than 100$ for a single image but if commissioners didn't want to pay that they wouldn't be contacting me

No. 2109092

>>2109062
nonnie same, i see people charging like 4 times what i charge for the same level of detail and addons i do, but i feel so bad charging even 10$ more for a more complex design and even if people suggest that they could pay more for extra time i wasted on something i just have a hard time accepting it, it never feels like my stuff worth it. Like i'm so scared of not getting clients at all if i'll ask for more, because my socials are really small

No. 2109141

>>2109044
I don't even like him, it's just a lot of people here don't really know what the principle of a study is

No. 2109155

>>2109141
enlighten us then

No. 2109161

why is somebody who goes on lolcow this upset over the fact agbadi posted a random ugly drawing

No. 2109169

>>2107674
To me it doesn't even read as a legitimate study. It's too intentioned if that makes sense. Maybe I'm just being retarded but usually when you see a study it's very sketchy and rough whereas these are all finished drawings. It looks to me as though he made all of these on their own canvas and then copy pasted them into a collage on another canvas and called it a study like he's drawing people from life in a sketchbook at a cafe. Which is what he should be doing if he actually wants to paint like Leyendecker. Again though, maybe I'm just retarded.

No. 2109174

>>2109155
It's no use to ask her to explain herself or prove that she knows what she's talking about. She's either getting off on acting like a retard or she's genuinely retarded.

No. 2109176

>>2109169
nah youre right. as other nonas have said before those aren't studies, theyre just copies of some of leyendecker's stuff pasted together. studies are experimental in nature and you can see hints of the techniques/methods that the artist is trying to study. the only leyendecker hint in agbadi's art is the fact that he drew dapper men because the other aspects are lost since agbadi didn't exercise them.

No. 2109180

>>2109176
he's not going to apply anything he learned(if he even did) to his art anyways.

No. 2109183

>>2109062
Nonna if you confidently charge an accurate price retards will pay. Sure bunch of them, usually younger ones, will say you're expensive but fuck them, they are always fucking annoying to work with. I find the people who pay more care about details less and that's the customers you want to attract.

No. 2109254

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I just came back from a con and this was clearly visible to all visitors at their artist alley. I haven't been to many cons, is this usually allowed in the cons you go to? There are loads of kids around and maybe I'm a prude but it seemed far too sexual to be on display so openly?

I know it's just drawings but my mental comparison is kind of "would it have been allowed if it was photos of real people" and if the answer is no then keep it hidden in nsfw/18+ areas/folders.

No. 2109260

>>2109254
those asses are so flat and ugly

No. 2109263

>>2109254
No, that's foul and abnormal in a mixed age area. Also looks like a tumblrina or a aiden is running the stall judging from the quality of art beneath the banner.

No. 2109264

>>2108921
I do art for extra money, my top clients are VERY vocally supporting troons, and some are they/thems themselves. They retweet posts like "if you're a terf just die already, nobody likes you bigot". I'd literally lose them as clients and I'd lose my whole following most likely. I don't want to be harassed by TRA all day long either. I'm very terf to my friends in private and irl, I just have to be quiet online for now. I do find it amusing they love my terfy work unknowingly kek

No. 2109272

>>2109155
A study is just to learn, it's not meant to be perfect. It's easy enough to point at his other art and just call it shit but talking about the studies just felt nitpicky, that's all
>>2109174
How am I being retarded? It's not that serious

No. 2109288

>>2109254
Gross and retarded, kek. This is like the real life equivalent of games adding big booba waifus to attract the coomers.

No. 2109290

>>2109254
Yes but usually it's professional booths that have things like this in my local con. Usually they're body pillows with stolen pixiv art on full display. The only other con where I saw similar things in the artist alley was a yaoi con with a clear age limit.

No. 2109291

>>2109272
>A study is just to learn
we are just pointing out his mistakes so he gets better then

No. 2109311

>>2109037
gay bara autism and japanese male autism combined to make this beautiful masterpiece. Once in a lifetime artist

No. 2109316

>>2109254
And the art isn't even that good

No. 2109334

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>>2109311
i wish he still posted his art i love insane gay male autism, he was our modern day tom of finland

No. 2109341

>>2109334
I bet he'd really like the old Deviantart mascot

No. 2109347

File: 1722208971981.png (Spoiler Image,3.4 MB, 1242x1533, ZYX4lZb.png)

No hope for women

No. 2109349

>>2109347
i like how this pickme draws this shit but gets super offended and acts like a snowflake when people compare the landwhale to eric cartman

No. 2109369

>>2109347
Ypu just know she wouldn't be able to handle even a slap on the face. I wish she could just get institutionalized or something because going out of your way to produce content like that can't be a signal of good mental health.

No. 2109411

>>2109347 not even fucking joking I genuinely despise this artist more than anyone else. I actually think she should be put under sharia law. I hate this bitch and her comics that defends pedophiles. she literally makes comics where he is one and defended the act herself. I wish twitterfags doxxed her instead of women who just draw skinny men. I hate her even more than moid artists because I expect more from female artists, but I can’t fucking stand her sorry for alogging

No. 2109415

>>2109347
ao3 is full of women like this

No. 2109416

>>2109415 inshallah God will smite all of them to pickme hell and have them tortured while normal women go to heaven. Exodus 20:4-5 God is literally against pickmes who idolize men.

No. 2109423

>>2109416
Amen sister, amen

No. 2109438

>>2103279
this chick is legit batshit insane and her mutilated tif art deeply disturbs me

No. 2109450

>>2109411
i really wish it wasnt against the rules to doxx this cunt because i would do it. I already know her real name and where she works just from snooping around her putrid twitter.

No. 2109451

>>2109450
Wouldn't that be public information then?

No. 2109453

>>2109451
what counts as doxxing here? the rules are vagues, is the only thing against ther rules to post adresses?

No. 2109454

>>2109450
Did her dad really work in that winx thing and did he really kill himself? I can see how that would traumatize her but her kink shit is a disgrace to feminism . I cannot defend her

No. 2109460

>>2109453
if you post her real name with screencaps from her twitter it's not doxxing. just don't post addresses and unrelated family members or exact location, multiple cows have their full names in their threads and people talk about the city/general location cows live in just fine. i'm not sure about posting her workplace though but if she's literally posted where she works you can post the caps

No. 2109472

>why do women get harassed more than men?
>plan on posting a women's address and place of work because you dislike
what she draws and wishing sharia law and beheading on her
Please stop being disgusting, it's like looking at a parody.

No. 2109480

>>2109460
Aight will see what i can do, because i think it technically counts as doxxing. I will see if i can make a kiwi farms thread on her.

No. 2109482

>>2109472
0 sympathy for pickmes

No. 2109485

>>2109472
I dox men a lot so I don’t really care. Women who flat out defend pedophiles (which she actually did in a faq, and is dating a man, and literally makes her moid a pedophile.) is the same to me. She will plan on having daughters, do you think her daughters will be safe from what she (and her moid probably) masturbates to? She gets off on pedophilia, she literally calls it a paraphilia and said it was a kink in one of her posts. This isn’t just some woman you “dislike”, she’s an autopedophile. If you want I can look for the post that I’m talking about.
>>2109450
I would take the ban and post it TBH, or don’t, but if you have a discord I wouldn’t mind getting it on a throwaway account.

No. 2109488

>>2109485
>If you want I can look for the post that I’m talking about.
please do i am tempted to make that kiwifarms thread, so please post all the info you have on her

No. 2109489

>>2109480
If you make a thread on her, I will gladly help compile posts. I remember when I first found out about her she defended rape and pedophilia as being reactive, and said “pedophilia can be used as a defense”, as in pedophilia could be excused lmfao. I gotta find it, this was 4 months ago

No. 2109492

>>2109347
The fuck? This is so wrong for so many reasons what the fuck

No. 2109495

>>2109489
>I will gladly help compile posts
please do this will be super helpful for the kiwi thread. Maybe we finally have our new nemu?

No. 2109498

>>2107589
I don't have an ipad but Tapas is in sore need of decently drawn western webcomics if you're willing to take the plunge. If you update every 10 days, or take a hiatus every 3 episodes, or update fortnightly (as in regardless of what you do, keep it regular even if the updates are b&w and short) I'd even personally pay the 360-405 ink per chapter (I have 70k ink left to spend lol and I've already bought everything I want). I'd suggest ofc to adapt the panels to a scroll comic because it's difficult zooming into a full traditional comic page on the app (it glitches for me when zooming for some reason). You can run ads at the bottom too. Neocities is not something I go on because I'm strictly a webcomic buyer-reader and not a web developer so it doesn't appeal to me (currently), right now I only go to where webcomics are, but chances are if you were to upload to neocities my friends would show me eventually like "look at this, you like webcomics." Anyway please make your webcomic, I'd love to follow your story, Nonna.

No. 2109503

>>2109472
Anyone who posts stuff like that deserves it

No. 2109506

>>2109472
some ugly retard tif getting shat on is different from this. it's not like anyone tried doxing the pumpkin tif either

No. 2109513

>>2109498
This is so sweet and very helpful. Thank you nonna. Thinking of a nonna reading my webcomic-in-making makes me super happy and inspires me. Thank you so much.

No. 2109528

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>>2109488
The post I’m talking about was in the ending of march. She reposting something where it defended pedophilia as a paraphilia. However, I found this while scrolling. Someone admitted to her, a pedophile, that they use her works as masturbation material. I don’t know if she made a new account or what, but I can’t go further down before April 17, but I remember when I posted about her (March 23-24), I saw the post I was talking about, this one was not it, but it’s an interesting find. This is one of the anons on her faq, she said she didn’t hate “non contact maps”, but hated pro contact ones. Here’s her answer to the faq. https://retrospring.net/@null_bis/a/111076470764071571

No. 2109532

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>>2109411
>>2109347
This level of pickmeism is like some sort of disease, I wish for her to go through some event or realization that takes away this level of pickmeism, she clearly isn't in good mental health.

No. 2109535

>>2109347
holy shit i remember seeing her admitting on twitter that she's never had an orgasm in her life. also an anon here said she was an attention seeker on discord when they chatted.

No. 2109536

>>2109528
Do you have more milk on her to write a proper summary? i would like a proper thread on /snow/ too

No. 2109545

>>2109536
I can help compile posts because I have all the time, but there’s a lot of posts where she defended nomaps on her old account. It seems like her account got deleted and she made a new one? Because I can’t find anything before March 30th.

No. 2109552

>>2109347
>>2109545
Please try to find all you can on this freak if possible. I'd love a thread on this loser.

No. 2109554

>>2109545
>I can help compile posts because I have all the time
please do and post them with a link too so i can archive them!
> but there’s a lot of posts where she defended nomaps on her old account. It seems like her account got deleted and she made a new one? Because I can’t find anything before March 30th.
what was her url? the wayback machine might come handy. I will try to make a thread on kiwifarms and see if it picks up traction, gonna take me a while to read all her shit though, she tweets 24/7

No. 2109558

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>>2109347
the comic she did where her chatacter said that sex became more pleasurable after her land whale made her suffer FGM made me MATI, honestly. i genuinely find it disturbing she tries to add touching moments or whatever between her ugly original characters instead of just leaving it at shitty porn. but more pleasurable? seriously? what the fuck?

No. 2109559

>>2109558
she thinks her shitty edgy comic has deep complex characters. Meanwhile the art is sonichu tier levels of bad and every character acts like a cartoony villian or an animu girl

No. 2109560

>>2109554
https://x.com/null_backdoorho This is her account. I’m getting a new laptop charger, it comes in tomorrow so I’ll try to do it, I’m on mobile so it’s pretty difficult to compile posts ATM. I’ve hated her for months since I found someone posting her on here, she’s very insufferable. She’s a fat french white woman who for some reason loves to draw woc brutalized.

No. 2109562

>>2109560
i meant her suspended account

No. 2109567

>>2109562
Iirc it was the same as this current account.. she was posted in some of the older art salt threads too. Sorry to the other nonnas for shitting up the thread. Would her thread be in /w/ or /snow/?

No. 2109571

>>2109567
>Would her thread be in /w/ or /snow/?
/snow/ definetly, /w/ is for cosplay and lolita

No. 2109579

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btw shes on bluesky trying to start beef with that insect furfag. Faggot on faggot violence.

No. 2109583

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Also ofcourse she is anti kinkshaming when its about men raping women and men going after children but shames other women with mild kinks like sub male dominant woman. The final boss of pickmes.

No. 2109586

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There's some posts talking about null_bis on KF you can find by searching up deadspacedog. Her dad/daughter fetish and her weird obsession with asian women is definitely something
(This is her self-insert for her larp incest comic)
>>2109450
it's on her carrd and linked to her polyglotplatypus accounts so it should be fine, right..?

No. 2109589

>>2109586
why do all these cows like to larp as asians?

No. 2109590

>>2109589
Because being Asian is quirky, cool, and cute and Asian artists get treated like innocent hamsters who will explode if looked at funny by westerners.

No. 2109602

>>2109586
Are you sure this is her? The art looks different and the account of the image you posted last posted in 2023. I looked in null’s carrd and cannot find her name. I remember she had an old icon of a white woman, is that not her?

No. 2109612

>>2109607
did you forget that she supports pedophiles too?

No. 2109613

>>2109472
As disgusting as I think her artwork is, I actually agree. If a certain type of (male) artist were even to be mentioned here, anons would turn blue in the face defending them and wouldn't even entertain the idea of doxxing one of them.

No. 2109616

>>2109602
Yeah, that was her. Null is her porn account but she was previously a popular qweer artist tumblr blogger known as polyglotplatypus/pgp who would occasionally get cancelled for liking dad/daughter incest. Her old carrd was explicitly linked to pgp at some point and has her name on it and in the url.
Some posters talk about her in this thread and there are some comparisons in here and in a few of the following pages. At first glance they look unrelated but her retarded fetish just lines up too well imo
https://kiwifarms.st/threads/obscure-laughingstocks.277/page-106#post-11315905

No. 2109619

>>2109613 Most male artists posted here have a way bigger following, however, I would support milk on them too. Besides, wasn’t a male artist on the last few threads doxxed anyway? I remember the creator of the “gamer” meme with the “child gf” got doxxed on some site and was talked about. Most of the male artists will most likely never have kids and are genetic dead ends, however, this woman will most likely have them. She’s already with a moid, and she claims she’s asexual, but she has had relationships who know about her comics. She supports pedophiles, and clearly has a fetish for it. I genuinely think she’s a danger to children, and I already inherently dislike male artists, but I do think she’s milky enough for a thread.

No. 2109624

>>2109347
we live in such a sterile, safe world that’s isolated from any kind of injury and death that people are starting to do all kinds if weird shit to remind themselves of their mortality. extreme interest in true crime, fetishes like this etc. I think if we buried our own dead without filling them up with plastic and putting make up on them and let ourselves actually embrace death and it’s reality we would have less of this weird fascination… i don’t know what the fuck I’m babbling about, i’m drunk

No. 2109628

>>2109619
>gamer” meme with the “child gf” got doxxed on some site
Ntayrt but I think you mean soyjak party lol. In the case he wasn't properly doxxed unfortunately

No. 2109631

>>2109628 That really fucking sucks then. I was hoping the dox was true, I fucking loathe him.

No. 2109634

>>2109631
Same. They were pretty close to it but now raid is gone. They managed to dox multiple other lolicons though.

No. 2109644

Nonnas, how should I price tattoo designs? Also should I give a slight discount for friends? They're the only people I would plan on designing tattoos for. I feel guilty charging high because they work a lot and are tight on money.
Admittedly I'm scared to hear their reaction because they've been telling me I should design tattoos for them every time they see me draw or my being an artist is mentioned(and the idea of paying me was only brought up when I said it), and it'd kill me inside if they ended up changing their minds because I wanted to charge what I'm worth lol

No. 2109648

>>2109634
did the sharty die?

No. 2109655

>>2109586
Love how her self insert is a skinny asian woman kek

No. 2109658

>>2109648
Nah they just removed raid for some reason

No. 2109661

>>2109658
huh what was raid? i only heard the sharty got closed recently because they got sued or something

No. 2109663

>>2109661
Raid was a board for raiding (tho it eventually just became a place to dox people), the sharty was temporarily down though It had something to do with the website domain or smthg like that

No. 2109664

>>2109663
oh damn did they explain why they closed raid? those fags were really good at doxxing people

No. 2109666

>>2109644
>it'd kill me inside if they ended up changing their minds because I wanted to charge what I'm worth lol
then let that part of yourself die and start charging what you're worth kek. real friends tip you not rip you off.

even if your friends went to another tattoo artist because your prices are too high, that other tattoo artist would then charge them for having to create a design anyway. your friends can either choose to commission a design from a friend (something personal and something they should be grateful for), or commission a design from another tattoo artist (impersonal and being charged for it anyway).

No. 2109669

>>2109664
They never gave an official reason, but I think after they got dropped by their original host, they took nulls advice and wiped raid so they would get picked up again by some other domain provider

No. 2109862

>>2109062
if you set cheap prices you'll get cheap clients

No. 2109874

Nonas, when taking commissions how many changes do you allow your commissioner to ask before you start charging extra?

I'm taking a character design commission (it's not an OC, but rather the person is writing a fic for a fandom and commissioned me to draw the specific design they have in mind for some of the characters in the fic) and the fucknut I'm working with has spent the last three days asking for changes nonstop. Shit like "oh try adding this" "oh remove this". It reached the point where they literally had me trace over official art because they wanted the character's hair to be a perfect 1:1 to the original and even then kept complaining that it wasn't exactly like it. I'm so fucking tired I swear to god I'm getting THIS close to flat out giving up on this commission.

No. 2109875

>>2109874
it’s been 3 days nona, just ask for extra at his next request

No. 2109876

>>2109874
in my case i allow five big changes before lineart. if it's a small adjustment i don't charge but if it's something like 'redraw the hair/outfit entirely' then i count as a big change. after five i charge 5$ per new change. it's rare for me to get to that point though, most of my clients only ask for small adjustments. i'm sorry that you're having to deal with that retard, just start charging them extra at this point.

No. 2109878

>>2109874
I had a client like that and after about 3 big changes I said fuck it and told them I was cancelling their commission. It's not worth the headache and people like that will quickly make you hate drawing for cash

No. 2109888

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It feels like more “detail”(i.e rendering, shading, shine, design details) tends to make art look worse more often than not

No. 2109891

>>2109888
…is she covered in splinters?

No. 2109906

>>2109888
The top image is also slightly darker and warmer, and her expression looks more engaged.

No. 2109908

>>2109888
Wow I didn't know this show changed this much over time

No. 2109911

>>2109888
oh wow the anatomy managed to get WORSE. one piece's artstyle had always looked like shit for female characters but comparing the two now the first one at least makes a bit more sense, her bust is big but it looks at least more proportional to her torso and arms and she looks much more expressive. in the second one her arms are just fucking twigs, it looks so bad.

No. 2109923

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Not important but wanted to share some good news with my other art nonnies. Found some gouache paint sets for cheap at five below. I know the quality will be absolute garbage, but not having to shell out 30+ dollars to try a new type of paint made me insanely happy. I'll at least figure out weather saving up for a decent set will be worthwile.

No. 2109977

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>>2105920
The comments on this comic. Coomers don’t deserve respect but kekkkk imagine being a fan of someone who talks to you like this

No. 2109984

>>2109977
My god, some people don't want to comment and would prefer expressing their like for something through emojis. She's such a cunt.

No. 2109987

>>2109977
Why is it so hard to just… not reply sometimes? The emojis won't burn you alive, twitter will just move them under 'probable spam' most likely, so quit minimodding your own fanbase.
And if you think this person is a bot, replying only makes you look dumber, kek

No. 2109992

>>2109977
any comment no matter what is says boosts your posts in the algorithm. What an idiot

No. 2110032

>>2109977
No way she didn’t get flamed for this. And also why is the fan so spineless… I couldn’t be a famous artist on twitter because I’d spend the entire day insulting artisys like that

No. 2110039

>>2109977
kek a friend of mine has been in that fan's shoes before except the artist was mgong. my friend left a like on the post and even added a supportive comment but mgong replied to her telling her to retweet and not bookmark her work. my friend wasn't sure if she felt glad that mgong actually replied to her or if she should feel upset/annoyed by the demand when she was already supporting mgong the best way she could (iirc the art was nsfwish and my friend wanted to keep her account strictly sfw).

No. 2110049

At this point we need to have a separate thread for serious art discussion. This whole thread is just anons infighting over random twitter artists and trying to doxx women they don’t like(while simultaneously complaining that male artists have it easier) Meanwhile actual art-related posts go ignored.

No. 2110050

>>2110049
This is the art salt thread. This type of discussion can happen here. Nothings stopping you from replying to these “ignored” comments.

No. 2110052

>>2110049
It's called "General Art/Art Salt Thread", it's for both. If you want serious art posts to get more attention then by all means reply to them and try to get a discussion going, if it's interesting enough I'm sure other anons will join.

No. 2110054

>>2110049
Art discussion is literally going on right now. Reply to it or start talking about something interesting. I'm one of the spergs who would post stuff about art history sometimes and I don't care if it gets overshadowed by other things, that's just the way thread moves

No. 2110061

>>2110050
>>2110052
That is literally my point. Having both in one thread doesn’t work. Maybe people don’t want to sift through 1000+ retarded pots to find quality discussion. At this point it’s like having two entirely different topics in one thread, or do you think calling random xitter nobodies cunts is somehow related to anatomy studies? I swear 99% of you don’t even draw

No. 2110065

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Nonnas where do i start learning?? I've been drawing just for fun for a while but now I want to crack down and fully understand the fundamentals from the very beginning as if I had never touched pencil to paper before. Which one do I start from and what are books you like that aren't listed in OP?
And how do I study without just mindlessly copying? I'm worried about falling into that trap sometimes.
Last but not least, how can I learn efficiently?

No. 2110066

>>2110054
In what world is posting a snarky twitter reply art discussion?

No. 2110068

>>2110061
then go make your own

No. 2110071

>>2110065
Check out this site
https://www.brendanmeachen.com/soloartist

Even if you don't end up doing the full thing there's a lot of links to useful books and online courses there

No. 2110076

>>2110061
> I swear 99% of you don’t even draw
ah the sweet sweet false argument of "you need to be an artist/know how to draw to be able to talk about art or criticize art!". seriously gtfo with that retarded take, anyone can be salty and nitpicky about art, even more in a place like lolcow. stop acting like some brat, if you want your space to be "Deep and Intellectual" about art then go make one instead of bitching about it.

No. 2110078

>>2110065
The best way to learn is to understand why certain things work and why some don’t. When I was learning I did a lot of master studies/copied art I like several times. The goal is to understand what makes it look good basically. Also try combining this with working on technique and finding your weak spots. For example anatomy or color theory. There are tonnes of good information on YouTube, and try to look at multiple sources.

No. 2110085

>>2110076
I swear you get more retarded with every passing day. The majority of this thread is not even art related discussion at all. It’s all the same tired twitter and TikTok drama that just happens to be about people who draw, but the drama itself has nothing to do with that. Read through the thread yourself and see how much of the discussion is actually art related and how much is off-topic at this point. Why do you get so mad when someone points this out?

No. 2110093

>>2110085
girl literally who cares. again, if you hate this thread so much then make your own. talk about me all you want but you've been doing nothing but whining about how you want "real art discussions" and how "real art discussions get ignored" while doing nothing to create or boost said discussions. you complain, complain and complain yet you do absolutely nothing to help fix the issue you're complaining about because you want to sit there and wait for the other nonas to change their mind and come to your aid and do it for you. you want change? make it yourself. make your own art thread, nothing and no one is stopping you.

No. 2110096

>>2110085
And yet you continue to add more non-art related garbage to the thread? Kek.

No. 2110098

>>2110066
Scroll up. There's anons talking about commissions and one talking about cheap gouache. What are your thoughts on gouache? Reply to her and try to get a discussion going instead of sooking.
>>2110065
Set goals for yourself for things to learn so you're not doing it all at once. Of course you can could take breaks from what you're mainly studying to improve in other areas every so often- example: you're studying forms in anatomy bit to break up the studies you might want to do value studies.
As for books, Stonehouse is great for supplementary background knowledge, really helped me visualise how certain bones and muscles are placed. Another good book if you like to read a lot is The Art of Colour by Johannes Itten, covers basically all of art theory in mostly text form but there are a lot of really good colour plates. Both books are in pdf form on the internet and very easily accessible.

No. 2110112

>>2109977
what's her new @ nonnies? I think she changed it on tumblr too

No. 2110113

>>2110054
Speaking of, how about an exclusive art history thread? And I mean art HISTORY, no retarded contemporary infighting. Anyone interested?

No. 2110114

Any tips on de-trooning my art style?

No. 2110122

>>2110113
It'd be a good thread, I'll definitely try and contribute but most of my art history sperging energy is regulated to only during infights so we'll see, kek.
>>2110114
Can you give us an example anon? Otherwise the only advice I can give is study artists that don't post on tumblr/online.

No. 2110130

>>2110122
Well you could argue that most of ‘classical’ art is interwoven with historical infighting, both between artists and in their wider societal contexts, kek. In any case, I’m on it as soon as I can get to my laptop. First call of order will be a strict ban on discussing any artist who ‘’’promotes themselves by uploading their art to the internet’’’, AKA no chronically online drama. I want to hear about 18th century slap-fights only!

No. 2110133

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>>2110112
This one’s still here https://idolomantises.tumblr.com/ Her latest posts are like her twitter’s, just complaining about drama. So I scrolled further
>character “inspired by leather dykes”
>it’s just a big titty furry waifu in a leather suit

No. 2110137

>>2110133
Speaking of, maybe this isn't so related to art but has anyone actually read her webtoons? Are they any good?

No. 2110169

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No. 2110193

>>2110169
learn 2 ignore next time you dweeb

No. 2110205

>>2110137
unfortunately, me, though only the bug webtoon. it's pretty bad, just relies on tropes and being basically brain popcorn to get by (think "boyfriends"). predictably it's also crammed with gendershit, with one of the main attractions being a lot of bait-and-switch when it comes to muh gender (baiting people into "misgendering" the character). funnily enough the TiM rep consists of some unlikeable moidkid who makes his anger issues everyones problem (mantis) and a pathetic caricature of "omg yuriz useless lesbian" wearing a damn lesbian flag shirt (red snapback) kek

>>2110169
now that's rich coming from someone with such an extensive history of harassment and incitement campaigns. i remember this freak's tumblr days (traumatizedofficial, whitesaviorcomplex, some url involving bismuth), and while the finer details escape me, i do know that she was always happily spearheading some drama or another. funny how she can't take what she dished out for so long.

No. 2110225

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>>2110169
so she can send hate to other women but cant take it herself? shocker! kek no sympathy here she deserves it also kek at this
>my coomers told me it was ok

No. 2110230

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>>2110225
samefag but shes also suicide baiting at patreon as usual, betting shes gonna private and come back in a week god this bitch is spineless

No. 2110234

>>2110230
Lmao isn’t this the same chick who got her panties in a twist because someone made a Plague Doctor OC after she did?

No. 2110245

>>2110230
"verbally abused" and its words on the internet.

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No. 2110256

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>>2110137
>>2110205
The monsters and girls one is pretty shite too, mainly for the coomer cringe. If not for the gendie bdsm furry pandering, sometimes it gives off the aura of an ecchi romcom made by a moid (actually idolo was a fan of Nagatoro, Jahy-Sama, and the Uzaki-chan anime, so that probably explains a lot kek)

No. 2110257

>>2110225
> People are saying this is the audience I cultivated
> Ackshually they're helping me fight off the h8ers
> People are calling me slurs
Kek and who does she suppose is calling her those slurs? Hint, the moids in your audience aren't there to be educated about pronouns and the image-obsessed drama enthusiasts aren't exactly known for being reliable.

No. 2110282

File: 1722283227681.jpg (1.64 MB, 1170x4000, idolomantises audience.JPG)

>>2110225
>>2110257
Kek, and she used to hate her followers for being mostly homophobic lesbian-fetishizing coomer moids.

No. 2110290

>>2110282
> t. twittoid learns the hard way that there are worse things than accidentally appealing to icky fujos

No. 2110324

>>2109616
>>2109560
Whoever mentioned having her doxx and is going to start a thread on her, I'm really hoping you follow through because I've been waiting for this nasty racist bitch to get served.

No. 2110325

>>2110256
does she not know how to draw mouths? also the lazy mastectomy scars slapped onto a male body is hilarious like always, lol.

No. 2110332

>>2110049
> This whole thread is just anons infighting over random twitter artists and trying to doxx women they don’t like(while simultaneously complaining that male artists have it easier)
pickmes are the same as moids to me plus she openly supports pedophilia

No. 2110344

>>2110332
Not only just pedophilia but also fgm so yeah she deserves it. Pickmes won't be coddled here

No. 2110457

Anyone has more caps and info and old links to add to null_bis/deadspacedog thread? i am planning on making it today

No. 2110513

>>2110344
Aren’t there male artists who have done much worse though? Like literally preyed on children and shit? Let some random woman be an edgelord online and go after actual predators instead.

No. 2110535

>>2110513
>let a woman draw disgusting shit and openly promote pedophilia, women being abused under the guise of consenting kink, and FGM you boolies!
no lol

No. 2110550

>>2110513
>Let some random woman be an edgelord online
Posting about her on here won't stop her from being an edgelord online though. The same way writing a bad review for McDonalds won't make the company shut down kek

>>2110457
You could post about her in the art cow thread >>>/snow/963863 I don't know if there's enough for her own

No. 2110552

>>2110550
>I don't know if there's enough for her own
she used to larp as a woman fucking her dad and defends pedophilia, there is definetly enough milk about her

No. 2110555

>>2110513
I think it's less doxxing (if you post that information online yourself and someone takes that it's not doxxing and is your fault anyways) and more documentation. There's also a difference between female artists who are just harmless despite their art (mgong, that coucoubird tif, etc.) and there are those who probably are either disgusting or a actual danger (Vee, GlitchedPuppet, etc.)

No. 2110561

>>2110555
if she plans on having children then shes 100% a danger. She said she currently has a BDSM relationship. She also seems to start beef with other coomer artists over pro/antishipping like the bug autist. I dont know why anons are defending this pickme bitch, artists like Holly and puppychan had threads and they were objectively less disgusting and milky than this pedo enabler who larps an incest relationship with her dad.

No. 2110574

>>2110561
Being a “pickme bitch” and posting retarded shit on twitter should not justify being doxxed and having one’s life ruined. Especially not when there are males in the same community who are actively preying on real children both online and irl. But I guess you love cock too much to care about that.

No. 2110577

>>2110574
give me the name of those scrotes and i will doxx them too

No. 2110579

>>2110561
>artists like Holly and puppychan had threads
I don't think anyone cares about just a thread being made on her.

No. 2110580

Seeing all of this stuff itt about the null artist after seeing multiple anons talk about how they love Trevor Brown's art is certainly something btw kek

No. 2110581

>>2110579
Puppychan had a thread?

No. 2110583


No. 2110586

>>2110580
tf does trevor brown have to do with null/laika? do you seriously think that the anons shitting on null are the same ones defending trevor brown?
>>2110581
in kiwifarms yes

No. 2110591

>>2110580
who gives a fuck? this bitch has a FGM fetish and tries to larp as an asian chick in a totally healthy incest relationship, she's a freak. they all deserve to be doxxed and shamed, stop trying to act like this is some misogynistic hate crime.

No. 2110592

>>2110586
No I don't, I'm aware we're not a hivemind and have many different anons and opinions here. Its just interesting
Why are anons making plans to make KF threads on here anyway? Just go on kiwifarms.

No. 2110597

>>2110591
You sound like you should go back to xitter.

No. 2110599

>>2110597
no you

No. 2110602

>>2110592
we are planning to make a thread here aswell. Why are you defending this bitch so much? do you not know how lolcow works? what is it with newfags finding these threads years after they were created and demanding we dont talk about milk and judge freaks anymore

No. 2110603

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Apparently that pumpkin chick is pretending to be her own cousin? Really funny if true (left is the “cousin”s art posted a year ago, right is Pumpkins)

No. 2110606

>>2110574
Holy shit it's just her place of work iirc which she already posted herself. She causes enough petty beef that she would have already been bit in the ass by now. Anyways I don't think the majority women and actually autistic men in the Beauty Parlour section of KF give a shit about hunting her down, fucking Tearzah had more of her information leaked than that and no one did anything with it except pretend to be her mother on lolcow.

No. 2110607

>>2110602
Where did I defend her? And I'm not a newfag kek nor did I ever say you can't discuss milk, calm down.

No. 2110608

>>2110602
Literally no one cares about threads being created about people. But doxxing someone for being a freak online is peak terminally online behavior.

No. 2110610

>>2110603
Why would she pretend to be her own cousin? I'm confused kek

No. 2110612

>>2109977
I would have replied with a sequence of emojis telling her to eat shit kek

No. 2110615

>>2110608
Said as if posting on lolcow at all wasn't peak terminally online behaviour

No. 2110617

>>2110608
>But doxxing someone for being a freak online is peak terminally online behavior.
maybe dont post your personal information next to your nasty art then

No. 2110619

>>2110617
Maybe turn off your screen and go outside

No. 2110620

>>2110619
Why are you caping this hard for a pedo apologist?

No. 2110623

>>2110608
Why can't we have fun anymore?

No. 2110628

>>2110619
the irony of saying this on lolcow while defending a pro pedo cunt

No. 2110632

>>2110628
Potentially ruining someone’s life because you dislike them is not normal.

No. 2110633

>>2110632
are you seriously retarded

No. 2110634

>>2110610
Because of people finding her older posts showing her skinny body, she tried saying she used to run her tiktok with her underaged cousin and stopped once the cousin got doxxed.. which is obviously not true considering she’s posted herself on her nsfw and the body proportions match up with the “cousin”. Very strange

No. 2110636

>>2110632
i dont care if her life gets ruined, i care about warning families with children around her that she has pedophile fans and supports pedophilia

No. 2110637

>>2110282
the irony of her saying this while the lesbian example are giving fuck-eyes to the camera but the gay couple are looking at each other.. girl.. the call is coming from inside the house

No. 2110639

>>2110632
>boohoo please don't hurt her! she may be a pedo freak but she's my fav!

No. 2110644

>>2110632
Not me but read this >>2109460
You're a bit fucking late to whinge about cows having info they posted documented. Are we doxxing Jillian every time she broadcasts her location? Oh my god nonas what if she was sniped at that convention oh how horrible

No. 2110646

>>2110633
>>2110636
>>2110639
I hope you spend as much time helping real victims of csa as you do on twitter drama.(derailing)

No. 2110648

>>2110637
Kek I noticed it too. Some people have the self awareness of a sock I swear

No. 2110650

>>2110646
we are preventing possible csa victims by warning everyone around her about the type of people she encourages and support. Hope that helps!

No. 2110651

>>2110646
as if you were doing better than us by literally defending a predator but aight aight(derailing)

No. 2110654

>>2110049
This thread wasn't even originally for general art bullshit. It was strictly for salt but people like you kept coming here asking for art advice and discussion so it got changed. If you whined like this on one of the earlier threads you would've got your ass handed to you bc most people found it annoying back then.

No. 2110658

>>2110049
>comes to gossip forum
>people are gossiping
>GASP!
>"oh my GOD! WHERE ARE THE PROPER DISCUSSIONS? TWITTER GOSSIP FREAKS, ALL OF YOU!"
keeeeeeeek learn to read girl

No. 2110668

>>2110654
NTA as much as I sometimes enjoy the regular art discussion for the next thread we should make it extra clear that salt's the priority. It's annoying as hell when potentially milky stuff gets derailed because some retard keeps whining that they want to talk about art again and again.

No. 2110672

What stuff do I need to make that nets OSA female followers. I keep having men follow my account, and when I post anything with guys, it tanks harder than my non-fanart girl pieces. I know I shouldn't let this demoralize me but I'm tried of drawing women. There's so many pretty girl artists that it all blends into one girly mess that I want no part in frankly. No offense to anyone who likes women, I just wanna draw cute men.

No. 2110674

>>2110672
I'd suggest to maybe do some fanart of popular male characters from some fandoms, that tends to net you some female followers. Just be careful of the fandom, though.

No. 2110676

>>2110606
>>2110623
If your idea of fun is literally opening people up to getting harassed or literally beaten to death over internet bullshit, you're not as innocent as you think you are.(derailing)

No. 2110678

>>2110676
no one is going to beat her. Shadman is doxxed too and sadly the cunt is still alive and well

No. 2110680

>>2110676
nta but no one here is claiming to be innocent, retard. we're literally telling you that we don't give two shits about this chick and if she gets harrassed or not because she's a pedo freak and an actual danger for minors. stop overreacting and stop trying to defend someone who's genuinely filthier than dirt.

No. 2110688

>>2110676
I think you really need to just make yourself some dinner or something.

No. 2110689

>>2110678
so what exactly are you hoping for when you post that information to people with a vendetta then? That they're gonna get chocolate and flowers in the the mail? Be serious.
>>2110680
You're actively hoping she gets hurt. That is not an overreaction, that's just common sense saying not to get someone killed for stupid fucking reasons.

No. 2110691

>>2110689
if she's supporting pedophiles and being an active danger to minors maybe she does deserve to get hurt ngl

No. 2110698

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>>2110689
Yeah, her art is pretty fucking stupid and the way she panders to the lowest of the low males is also stupid. I guess stupid shit happens sometimes when you act stupidly online.

No. 2110702

>>2110689
>"stupid fucking reasons"
>supports pedos
>supports filthy moids
>the most disgusting and degrading type of pickme
>has a rape fetish
>is a danger around minors
>"guys pls don't be mean to her pls :("

No. 2110706

>>2110698
I refuse to believe that this chick is actually a lesbian like she claims in >>2110282 because genuinely what the fuck.

No. 2110710

>>2110691
>>2110702
>>2110698
Active danger? To who? Why not contact the police then if you think real children are going to be harmed? Probably because the FBI is sick of idiots wasting their time and resources over the same old bullshit and you'd get laughed out the room. If this was real actual criminal material you wouldn't be caught dead with it on your computer or feel comfortable spreading actual CSEM, because despite whatever shit you're saying, you CAN actually tell the difference.

No. 2110716

>>2110710
Why are you so worked up about a random woman who is as shitty as shadman? Just drop it, anons are curious about who she is and where she is at, she won't get honor killed or something kek.

No. 2110729

almost done with the thread, just finished archiving everything. So, again, what counts as doxing here? becaus i found her name and work through searching her old usernames

No. 2110733

>>2110729
Name is fine, work place iffy unless she posts about it

No. 2110736

>>2110729
Her name is okay to post here, maybe post the rest on Twitter.

No. 2110738

>>2110672
It might be good to start another account for that to be honest. Mixing things could end up alienating both audiences

No. 2110742

BTW didnt france recently make drawn CP illegal? because shes a frenchie

No. 2110751

>>2110637
That is such a good catch kek

No. 2110758

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>>2110698
It turns my stomach

No. 2110771

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>>2110758
She even writes fanfiction about her retarded characters.

No. 2110775

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>>2110771
And samefag, this is a lovely comic in which the obeast she fantasizes about hooks up with one of his former students, and the student has a flashback in which he's raping her. This is portrayed as if she actually enjoyed it as a teen.
But hey, we can't get mad at her!

No. 2110776

>>2110758
I've rarely seen something this creepy and disgusting. whats worse is that this is meant to be porn rather than a horror story

No. 2110781

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>>2110775
And the lore about her adorable favorite characters that she makes abuse comics with.
But just because someone makes constant depictions of abuse, defends abuse under the guise of "kink" and even lives off that, doesn't mean she's harmful!
She's just a misunderstood woman, anonas!

No. 2110785

>>2110781
is the 2/3 thing true? i hope it's fake

No. 2110787

>>2110781
Wtf are the joker scars about

No. 2110788

>>2110785
Any information that she spouts should be always considered wrong and fetish-induced, I wouldn't be surprised if her pickme ass has been lurking and posting on 4chan and the likes for decades at this point, her brain is a waste of matter.

No. 2110795

This artist isn't a good person at all but can't you fags doxx a man instead

No. 2110798

>>2110706
these are two different artists nona kek please read the thread again

No. 2110799

>>2110795
Anons have doxxed moids before. Do you even read the cow boards?

No. 2110800

>>2110795
post names and we'll see what we can do

No. 2110804

>>2110800
would be funny if someone reported mossa to south korean authorities for drawing lolicon

No. 2110809

>>2110804
Forgive me if I'm wrong but hasn't he already? Or people have tried and nothing happened

No. 2110810

File: 1722301648147.png (2.31 MB, 1666x1666, ac250ac46f5e7001.png)

Made the thread.
>>>/snow/2020424
>>>/snow/2020424
>>>/snow/2020424

She has so much milk spanning over a decade so i decided to keep the thread introduction to the bare minumun. I will post more caps through the week and see if i can compile more information. She has been documented on random threads on KF for at least two years now.

No. 2110815

>>2110785
Women's 'rape fantasies' are usually just unrealistically romanticized dubcon, the fantasy of having a man whom they are attracted to who does everything they want to recieve in sex without them needing to even ask. But ofc that shit gets treated as synonymous with brutal rapes.

No. 2110821

>>2110815
Tbf, a lot of women will describe it as a rape fantasy, but it's misleading. They want a man who is active and forceful and does everything she wants without needing to ask, without having to verbalize her consent. He knows she wants it and gives it to her. Men call this rape fantasy because it kind of is? But it's on the basis of a woman wanting it. I think male psychologists call it a rape fantasy to fuck with people, that's my tinfoil. They ask if women have fantasies of men being forceful and dominant, and call it a rape fantasy, when that isn't what it is.

No. 2110830

>>2101540
Nothing wrong with spending a lot of time on a piece. It means you're being careful and getting things how you want, maybe learning more on how to draw something. Some classic artists spent months on a single painting. Everything expects everything instantly nowadays. Art takes time. If someone can finish a complicated painting in 2 hours, great, but they aren't you, so it doesn't matter.

No. 2110834

>>2110821
Knew a moid with an actual rape fetish, wanted to literally rape someone, could only get off when his partner """"pretended"""" to withdraw consent, was Jewish and said that it was part of his religion and cited some ancient Talmudic text to support it (not Torah, he made that clear). He would commission loads and loads of dubcon art. I think with moids it's explicitly a fetish for literal rape, with women it's not that and just called that, so I don't think you're tinfoiling it by saying that male psychologists reframe it by calling it a rape fetish. They're probably trying to make their own rape fetishes seem softer.

No. 2110837

>>2110821
so does that mean instead of actual rape, most women just prefer a dominant male? is there an actual source for this?

No. 2110838

>>2110837
Source: consume women's romance fiction

No. 2110839

>>2110837
the blackpill

No. 2110840

>>2110838
how much of this comes down to socialization instead of biology? maybe it's just because of gender roles?

No. 2110841

>>2110837
the source is that I really like big cock and the cock knows how to hit the right places well(derailing)

No. 2110842

>>2110841
that is graphic, anon

No. 2110845

>>2110841
piv isn’t pleasurable but let’s not derail

No. 2110869

>>2110821
yea it's more like a "ravishment" fancy like in ye olde historical romance novels, very forceful sex but she does enjoy it.

No. 2110873

>>2110845
This website makes me feel bad for liking being penetrated a lot kek lesbian strapon sex is my favorite(derailing, no1currs)

No. 2110874

>>2110845
PIV is so pleasurable what nonna

No. 2110877

>>2110837
a dominant male is actually a perfect male counterpart to have, mine makes my life so much better(derailing)

No. 2110878

>>2110877
Integrate better, tradthot.

No. 2110879

>>2110878
we’re discussing sexual compatibility, dumbass.

No. 2110881

>>2110879
I know, cocksucker.

No. 2110882

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>>2110879
NTA but you're doing it in the wrong thread. Take this somewhere else

No. 2110883

>>2110882
Not sure what I’m doing wrong kek I’m not the one who started the convo or asked the question in the first place I simply answered it

No. 2110885

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>>2110881
they are actually the majority

No. 2110887

>>2110877
do you feel that it's biological or like you were socialized to feel this way?

No. 2110890

>>2110887
i feel like it’s biological, the attraction i have to my husband is just innate and it strengthens when he exercises his power over me sexually

No. 2110891

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>>2110883
I mean everyone talking about sexual preferences, this is all so wildly offtopic to art salt, could you guys go take this to your other echochambers where you reenact the same daily infight

No. 2110892

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>>2110891
Ot but that dog looks like nulls pfp

No. 2110894

>>2110892
AYRT it's drawn by the same people kek

No. 2110896

>>2110890
Please stop baiting

No. 2110897

I'm starting to think the blackpill sperg was right

No. 2110898

shut up lesbians, het women need to complain
anyway, the freaks on artfight who complain about not getting any attacks are just literal sub80 iq retards who can't draw for shit, or literal children who also can't draw for shit (basically retarded)

No. 2110899

>>2110897
She's an unmedicated schizophrenic but I agree with the general sentiment of her screeds.

No. 2110906

>>2110898
The lesbians and hetfags are both being annoying but apart from that I agree. Either they can't draw for shit, or have no friends or they're me who's a retard who hid all their characters and haven't had the time to log back in to AF kek

No. 2110914

take your insatiable lust for cock and balls to an appropriate thread, please. thanks!

No. 2110919

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why does it make me so sad and upset when artists I really look up to fall down the NSFW or otherwise "objectifying women for likes" pipeline? I genuinely don't mind pieces of women being attractive (even if some may consider it male-gazey, sometimes it can be done respectfully) but when the artist really pivots into drawing exclusively "sexy" women it gets on my nerves. A big example is Penporo/Constellor, I didn't mind her cuntboy arc, but she recently DFE'd, even a lot of her large background related pieces with loads of props are gone in favor of borderline goonshit. Or even Inkuusan, moid who occasionally did funny meme art then just pivoting off to exclusively drawing big boob big butt women and selling a patreon.
I get it sells. But man, as a relatively small and still learning artist, I really never want to fall down that pipeline, ever. It depresses me.

No. 2110921

>>2110914
Thank you, love you

No. 2110924

>>2110919
I dont mind when good artists draw hot women(like kjg, okinawanogori or frazetta) because i can at least appreciate the skill behind, but i hate the lazy pinup shit thats popular nowadays. Its clearly drawn lazily and fast to hop on the gooning trend of the week. Shadman completly destroyed the internet art landscape.

No. 2110926

>>2110924
>lazy pinup
fuck you

No. 2110929

>>2110919
I feel this anon, I really like this one artist and she exclusively draws sexy fanart pinups now. I still follow her because I like her art and I'm happy that she's able to feed her kids with her art but I miss when she had more variety in her works.

No. 2110931

>>2110085
I love both art discussions and petty drama but anons ask the same shit answered in previous threads all the time. Where to start? How to get better at anatomy? What do you do when you're uninspired? What style do I draw?

>>2110114
Take weeb imageboard feedbacks with a bag of salt.

No. 2110935

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>>2110924
>>2110929
Definitely. And it always feels like "you know it when you see it" type of art, pic rel, especially if I've been following them for years and they just suddenly pivot to exclusively drawing women, one bodytype, etc. I don't mind pinups personally (especially if the pose is dynamic in some way or at least looks interesting) but I get what you mean by lazy pinups. most of the time it's a lazy simple pose with simple colors. And men just simply follow and boost the post to like 25k likes, pushing the artist to do more. seems fucking miserable to me. I don't even know if I could blame shadman (fuck him, though) and rather the algorithm squeezing people into this subsection of artwork.

No. 2110942

>>2110672
Male focus hetships. I would follow you, nona, hehe.

No. 2110946

File: 1722309394610.jpeg (55.99 KB, 507x605, Karo.jpeg)

Ngl, I'm going to miss constellor's bunny OC—TIF shit aside. She was cute and the new big booba blue-haired girl just doesn't hit it. I was genuinely dissappinted visiting her account and seeing she didn't draw the Voltron Keith rip-off anymore

No. 2110950

>>2110946
You've got to make your own knock-off kek

No. 2110951

>>2110946
You get me. I felt like there was actual lore behind these characters. Even if it was just something that she would never realistically make. but shit, am I unreasonably salty for really disliking the recent pivot? Regardless at least I can steal the holographic hair and in a few years, people will never know lol.
By the way, anon, if you still want something that's similar to the bunny OC, GurepyonArt was in the same circle and draws in a similar style with similar "teased lore" characters.

No. 2110960

>>2110906
I have no friends and got attacks because I put effort in. Artfight is transactional and I'm tired of people pretending it isn't

No. 2110962

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>>2110935
I swear to got all these artists draw the same ''thicc woman with hands behind her back because hands are hard to draw'' pose. I like autismos that draw sexy girls in interesting ways, like pic rel or scrotes who draw women in historical costumes or with guns. Pin up shit for the sake of likes is boring as fuck.

No. 2110988

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>>2110962
yes! I get you. I'm personally just a sucker for interesting compositions (picrel, I like this one a lot) or rendering, I've never been the greatest at making flowy art pieces. I've just been so dissatisfied with so many artists that I've followed over the years just falling into the same pit of coom scrote garbage for money.

No. 2110999

>>2110960
Who's pretending it isn't? The entire thing is about trading artwork

No. 2111008

>>2110935
This still confuses me. Everything about the right looks like it was drawn by a different person trying to imitate her artstyle but not quite getting it right. How does someone witb both the skill and knowledge end up regressing so much in such a short span of time?

No. 2111010

>>2110946
Now that she disowned them, no one is stopping you from stealing her ocs nona.

No. 2111235

File: 1722318538627.png (Spoiler Image,288.83 KB, 427x640, x.PNG)

I wanna draw my butch lesbian oc shirtless, something like picrel, except she’s not pulling her pants down. She’s just chilling casually with her girlfriend(who’s wearing her shirt).
Should I censor her nipples(seems more distracting), cover with a bra(changes the vibe I want to give off but whatever), flag my post as sensitive, or just make an nsfw account to post stuff including this? Her boobs aren’t a focal point at all, she’s sitting kind of hunched. But I’ve never posted “sexy” nor nude stuff on this account, and I probably have underage followers, so that’s why I’m worried

No. 2111270

>>2111235
maybe give her a tank top with no bra, that's quite neutral? you can draw the fabric of the tank top as thin and loose-fitting, so it will look comfy

No. 2111406

>>2111235
If you're on Twitter or Tumblr you could flag your post as NSFW/containing nudity, hiding it behind a spoiler. I think most people consider non sexual toplessness to be fine to post, unless your audience is all turbozoomers

No. 2111424

>>2111235
Don't compromise your vision, if anyone complains ignore them. Weed out the cowards

No. 2111521

>>2111235
I almost was overwhelmed, I thought you like to draw husbando with bust too…

No. 2111536

>>2110837
Well… even if the female fantasy in question is ‘rape’ in the sense that she’s not explicitly giving consent, it will never ACTUALLY be Rape with a capital R simply because a woman will fantasise about the man pleasuring her in the way she secretly wants to be pleasured, even if it’s a bit forceful or rough. On the other hand, male rape fantasies are about pleasuring themselves at the cost of the woman’s pleasure and enjoyment. Women fantasise about being pleasured without having to ask, while men fantasise about humiliating and degrading their partner. The two are not equivalent in any way, shape or form.

No. 2111543

>>2110946
I haven’t looked at her old art in about a year and seeing this OC again made me want to squeal. I forgot how adorable he is! It’s unbelievably tragic that she would let her art go to the shits like that. If no one else is going to steal him, I will. Just look at the charm of that expression… sigh, what a shame.

No. 2111545

>>2111536
So true. Couldn't be said better.

No. 2111551

>>2111543
"He" has a coochie.

No. 2111557

>>2111551
Not if I have anything to say about it. Death of the artist, or whatever.

No. 2111575

>>2111536
A bit OT but I also always wonder how those supposed surveys phrase the "do you have rape fantasies" question, because as a weeb I've had plenty of fujo friends who fantasized about men raping each other on the daily, not involving themselves or other women at all… and somehow none of them follow up with "does this mean you want to get raped in real life too?" because that would disprove their moid theories that women secretly want to be raped when all women say "fuck no, absolutely fucking not, it's just a fantasy".

No. 2111580

>>2111575
its not the same as rape, they dont actually want to be raped, but i think it shows women enjoy dominant male partners

No. 2111597

>>2111521
wtaf did this anon mean by this i can't figure it out

No. 2111598

>>2111575
>fujo friends who fantasized about men raping each other on the daily

Fujos who fantasize about that are plain sadists who want to see men endure something horrific—and then see their crippled, emotionally devastated state afterwards.

You could say: "Why don't they just fantasize about femdom?" They won't and the answer is simple: men and women are not equal but men are equal to each other. Femdom—no matter how degrading it is for the guy—is still a male fantasy. Men will never see a woman sexually assaulting them as a threat compared to how we see the opposite (no matter how many virtue signaling Reddittors you read).

Those fujos get off from the shame and disgust those anime boys get after being assfucked by another man because men are terrified of other men. Men are never terrified of women as we're generally physically weaker to them. So seeing a man in genuine terror causes sadist fujos monkey brains to circuit.

I'm saying this from personal experience.

No. 2111601

>>2111598
In my opinion this also applies to female fantasies about male-on-female rape. Yes a lot of women are self-inserting but for some it's about the sadistic pleasure of seeing another woman be victimized. The reason why it's hard to self-insert as a female sadist is not just that it's unrealistic, but also that most women would rather observe passively rather than be an active participant to harming someone.

No. 2111615

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Can anyone recommend blogs/ twitter for artists who post their studies and study processes?

No. 2111625

>>2111615
lol you saved my old image! here are some i like
@UTodjsQ
@artanatomylab
@pikatstudies
@Af_Cf_
@simodasketch
@I__Amu__
@cyjalway

No. 2111632

>>2110942
By kek I did this and for some reason attracted a lot of lesbian followers. I don’t mind drawing some lesbian ships though. It does get you a lot of women followers though

No. 2111642

>>2111632
>male focus hetships
>attracting lesbian followers
DA but kek twitter lesbians once again proving they are actually just celibate husbandofags

No. 2111646

>>2110674
>Just be careful of the fandom, though.
Fanart isn't my thing. I don't have much of the skill nor interest in perfectly embodying a character in art. I'd much rather draw my characters than having to draw other's characters just to get eyes on my content. Most of the characters I do want to draw are convoluted as heck to draw too.
>>2111632
>hetship
>has woman in it implied or otherwise
>suprised it garnered SSA women
kek. No shade anon, that does suprise me too but I get it.

No. 2111656

>>2111646
>>2111642
To be honest they have been extremely supportive of my art even if it’s mostly m/f. Which was nice I suppose but still surprising

No. 2111661

>>2111646
Most f/f ships are made with a male audience in mind, and both characters end up feeling like flat fetish pieces as a result. I don't like m/m ships, but it's usually pretty character focused. The popular m/m ships I can think of usually have more thought and depth put into them by writers. I think all women, straight or otherwise, enjoy good, interesting depictions of relationships.

No. 2111663

>>2111625
Thank you!! Will check them out immediately!

No. 2111668

>>2111632
TA. Not for everyone, I know I wouldn't draw it, but maybe fem pov male focus as a next extreme. I post webcomic and oc hetships and it garnered me dnd bl oc followers kek.

No. 2111696

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this is supposed to be a male character

No. 2111784

>>2111696
Good, more male characters need to look like this instead of ugly dadbod beasts

No. 2111795

>>2110919
>>2110924
This. Looking at shit like what Penporo is doing now, it's just depressing kitsch that has no lasting value. It's background noise for gooning, nothing more. There is no creativity or effort involved, no experimentation or storytelling, it's like purposeless, brainless vent art but with sex. And it's addicting too, why spend hours upon hours on a well-composed piece when you have the option to just draw a sloppy pinup of a big booba big ass waifu of the month and receive double the engagement with one third of the effort? I pray I never fall down that pipeline in my life, I'd rather have someone draw cuntboy trash than whatever >>2110935 this on the right is. How the fuck someone dips like that in just a couple of years and not cry looking at themselves in the mirror is beyond me.

No. 2111808

>>2111696
Not to defend her, but that's a very flamboyant moth called a rosy maple moth, I think. It makes sense when you put the two together, but the hair really adds to the more super feminine aspect.

No. 2111871

>>2111696
On one hand, I actually think it’s important not to dunk on this kind of thing simply for being a male character wearing feminine clothing with a slightly feminine body. After all, people only troon out when they feel like their natural body doesn’t match their gender expectations, e.g. woman with wider shoulders or a masculine voice. On the other hand, the context that was is made by a gender special kind of ruins it for me, as the OC is probably a troon anyway. Kill it with fire.

No. 2111892

>>2111575
The reason men don't ask the follow-up is that their coom-addled brains can't comprehend only enjoying a sex act in fictional context, they always seek to fulfill their fucked up fetishes IRL and can't even imagine that women aren't the same and can compartmentalize passing fantasies and real world desires far better than they can.

No. 2111912

>>2111696
>>2111784
Not to kink shame or anything, but that's a woman. It's better than ugly hambeast but making every man a femboy isn't really hot unless you're a febfem or traumatized by masculine man. Agree to disagree though.

No. 2111923

>making every man a femboy isn't really hot unless you're a febfem or traumatized by masculine man.
Guilty as charged for both offenses. Now what? Should I start forcing myself into liking """real""" men?

No. 2112048

>>2111923
You're a retard

No. 2112266

>>2111696
No fucking wonder anatomy questions keeping appearing in these threads. There's no fucking scrote on this goddamn planet that could have that waist to hip ratio because their pelvic bone structures do not exist to support this sort of shape naturally. This is a fucking woman ffs.

No. 2112294

Hey nonas, does anyone have any recommendations for drawing tablets? I have an old ipad and I liked it but it broke so now I’m thinking of finally deciding to buy a proper drawing tablet. Do you guys use screenless or ones with screens?

No. 2112378

No one fucking cares what type of male you’re attracted to. This is the artist salt thread, take your cock worship to /g/.
>>2112294
Ive been using the same Wacom intuos pro M since 2018 that was also bought second hand and it still works just fine. The size is comfortable to work on and it fits in most backpacks if you want to bring it somewhere. Screen tablets are overrated imo and you don’t need anything super fancy just make sure it’s durable.

No. 2112390

I'm sad Art Fight is almost over, I've really been enjoying it and drawing for everyone here as well. I don't think I've drawn this much in a single month in years, so thank you everyone for making it so fun.

No. 2112391

>>2112378
I second the Wacom Intuos. Medium, not small. I have both and the smaller one will give you hand cramps. I also have a Wacom One screen tablet from 3-4 years ago that sits and collects dust because it takes a bit of effort to get set up. Just purchase your basic, screenless tablet for life and you’re good to go. Don’t get distracted by shiny products, it’s not worth the money.

No. 2112422

>>2112294
What price range are you looking for? If you're a hobbyist not willing to fork out a lot of money and don't care for a screen then you're best off just buying a basic Wacom intuos. If you want a screen I recommend saving up for a proper Wacom Cintiq, the cheaper ones like Wacom One aren't really worth their price. I've heard good things of the midrange Huion Kamvas series but I've also heard that they're not as durable as Wacom and it's basically a Chinese knockoff of their technology anyway, and not as cheap as they started out as.

No. 2112749

>>2110039
link or evidence? super shitty thing to do

No. 2112915

>>2110039
Mgong is such a schizo but i cant help but like her. Shes like a chihuahua.

No. 2113307

>>2112294
I had a very basic wacom for about 7 years, then only updated it to a bigger one because of social pressure and fomo lol but it honestly feels exactly the same. The "new" wacom has lasted me like 10 years now. Works perfectly fine to this day, haven't ever had an issue with it and I've used it near daily. Bigger isn't better, you only really use a small portion in the middle most of the time anyway and a bigger one is just harder to move around. I think a good medium is ideal for most people. Mine has a touch screen function but I hate that so I turned it off and only use the pen.
I don't personally like screen tablets, one of the best things about a basic tablet is that you don't have to look down on the tablet while drawing and you get to look straight ahead. Makes your neck and back feel better!

No. 2113366

>>2112391
>>2113307
I have a question, I own two screenless tablets and my usual art style these days is lineart. Is doing so harder than a screen tablet? One of the reasons I gave up on pen tablets is the lack of knowing where each stroke goes and thus leading to missed lines or overshooting. Maybe for painting it's fine but once you wanna do cell shaded lineart, the main cons start to rear their ugly heads. But of course, this is my take since I'd personally vouch for a screenless if lineart isn't one's thing since it's really good for sketching and digital painting.

No. 2113374

>>2113366
Dunno i do cell shade and lieart on pen tablets and it works just fine, i have lines where i want them.. as long as your pen tip is pointy If it gets flatter then it's like 30% more difficult to get the stroke right.

No. 2113381

File: 1722420241885.jpeg (77.91 KB, 632x651, crying chinese hamster.jpeg)

Elon taking away the ability to see likes is my 9/11. I havent been able to find new artists to follow since then. On the bright side, i dont spend time on twitter anymore since i only used it to find new artists and mass dl their galleries.

No. 2113387

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>>2111696
oh yeah, i forgot to mention they have a literal (primary or younger age, I'm assuming, because this kid's school is set up like a preschool class) child troon out here

No. 2113434

>>2112294
Going from a screen tablet (ipad) to a non-screen one (intuos) is going to feel bad. Why not just get the latest ipad? More professionals use ipad now, so it counts as a "proper drawing tablet"

No. 2113521

>>2113434
not necessary even the latest one (apple shit is too overpriced, you can by a whole new pc for the price of the new ipad), just the one better than the one you have.


>>2112294
it depends on what you are planning to draw. ipad is good if you like being portable but not planning on drawing some really large scenes then ipad is good. there are so many limitations on ipad, but drawing on it feels so smooth and simple. If you are planning only drawing at home on pc and want to have smoother transition from an ipad then i suggest xp pen or huion screentablets. If you don't want to spend too much money and ready to take your time to get used to it, then some non-screen tablet can be for you! Personally I use all three basically. I do lots of more simple art, sketches, things when I'm not at home on my cheap ass ipad 9th gen. I draw larger artworks, sculpt, paint textures for 3d models on my laptop with my xp pen 12 pro. And whenever I'm tired of my xp pen messing with colors of my artwork, add post-processing or just have some back problems but want to draw I use my xp pen with a screen turned off, and it basically works just like a screenless tablet.

>>2113366
I find it way easier to draw lineart on my screentablet but, to me personally, doing lineart on ipad is god tier, as you can scroll, rotate the screen really easy which allows you hand to be placed comfortably to draw a line. Screentablets can really make it easier to draw lineart as you can see your hand and you know where you are starting your line. It's really hard to explain, but it really does help.

No. 2113551

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big vtuber powdury tries to stake claim over generic ass white haited horned elf girl design

Thoughs?

No. 2113553

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>>2113551

the supposed "exact copy"

shes splerging like hell over this on her twitter

No. 2113555

>>2113551
Is she also gonna go to war with My Singing Monsters over her pet's design kek

No. 2113558

>>2113553
They're kinda similar but so are 90% of vtuber designs. Doing this only puts a bitter taste in your fans mouth

No. 2113576

>>2113551
lmao, you can't copy strike an idea? There's so many designs out there that some are bound to look similar even when the artist never intended it to. Most vtuber designs are incestous anyway so this doesn't come as an surprise.

No. 2113652

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Nothing like seeing this and wondering if Twitter will follow a new trend. Then I remember no foreign artists did something related with any crisis in Latin America, so I press X for doubt.

No. 2113681

>>2113652
Why is her entire ass out KEKKK

No. 2113699

>>2113652
>>2113681
It's so funny to me because the bright yellow highlight against the red background makes her butt look like the focal point instead of the dramatic crying face KEK

No. 2113858

File: 1722445468480.png (802.3 KB, 940x2811, 4 (2).png)

What do you call this chibi-inspired westerner style?

No. 2113895

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>>2108921
Kek I only just now saw this, this is a hoot. Idc, I'll use the tag next year, too. Watch me, faggots

No. 2113907

>>2113652
why is it always miku with these fags?

No. 2113911

>>2113858
shit, sorry

No. 2113939

>>2113553
I love petty vtuber drama over character designs because it’s not coming from the same place as artists do when they complain about copying (‘it’s my intellectual property, how dare you steal it???’) but from the angle of ‘Fuck my life, some clever hustler is about to steal my coomer design and walk off with my horny moid audience and all my patreon money, there goes my pension—‘ KEK

No. 2113958

>>2113858
Tiktok art style

No. 2113973

>>2113939
It happens every fucking week too. Every now and then there's an actual case where someone scammed a rigger and used their design without paying properly but most of them are embarrassingly desperate outrage bait trying to farm sympathy clout for being a "victim of character theft" and to establish their avatar as the quintessential "overdesigned anime e-girl with animal ears/tail" over their competition.

No. 2113993

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>>2110603
That "cousin" reminds me of that other girl she invented back in the "Alex draws" days (assuming it's destinymoon)

No. 2114000

>>2113858
2018 animation memes core

No. 2114035

Where do I get refs for twink/twunk moids in a variety of poses?

No. 2114039

>>2111615
nta but is studying poses in the same way as bottom left of picrel effective? And what does it help you with? I've tried studying poses that way and it always ended up making my art more stiff if anything, but maybe I haven't practiced enough.

No. 2114049

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>>2114039
No, that shit's dumb. Overanalyzing the pose to death just makes the drawing come out stiff. Plus, look at the breakdowns: literally traced over the photo, with some shapes slapped on top. No wonder they feel stiff!! What you want is to draw the gesture of the pose. Look at picrel, done by George Bridgeman. Infinitely more motion and dynamism in these hands, and they're just hands. Use your whole arm when you draw, too, not just drawing from your wrist, that'll help you bring motion into the drawing. And draw big, too, especially when doing figure drawings.

No. 2114063

>>2114039
Personally, I've found it effective in studying how joints, shapes and proportions work. >>2114049 is right in how overanalyzing the photo makes it look way too stiff because you're not drawing the gesture of the drawing, but honestly gesture studies and what's being done in that first picture are two different things being studied. The other one is breaking a human body into shapes to see how those shapes are connected to each other so that you can proceed to gesture drawing bending those shapes.

No. 2114064

>>2114039
it's ok for if you're doing it to understand the proportions and trying to figure out how the pose works, but you're going to have to practice gesture too. if it doesn't work for you don't do it

No. 2114071

>>2114035
look up gymnastics or athletes in sports with body types you're looking for?

No. 2114081

>>2114035
Other anons have recommended freephotomuscle.com in the past. Japanese website with a lot of models

No. 2114086

>>2113858
This reminds me of a chemistry artist -can't remember the name- who trolled lolcows and trannies on Twitter. Most definitely was not a real woman: what kind of woman abuses chloroform and brags about it online? The art was fine though.

No. 2114122

>>2114086
ntayrt but chloroform lowkey be smelling good sometimes. its a very sweet, almost saccharine smell. i had to work with it in a poorly ventilated area for a while when i worked at a shitty job i had and it makes u feel woozy and kinda high, as if you took an edible and u get killer headaches. i dont know why anyone would knowingly abuse it though.

No. 2114149

>>2114122
Lolcow psa before some retard thinks to try chloroform as if it weed it's toxic and can harm your liver and kidney it should go without saying but don't do it.

No. 2114181

>>2114149
Weed is worse than chloroform. I've never smelled weed but I assume it stinks. it's addictive and makes you retarded.

No. 2114182

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>>2114035
I use pinterest for finding poses for my work, you can absolutely find what you're looking for on there.

No. 2114190

>>2114149
Yes, you should huff nitrous oxide instead. Cheaper too.
>>2113858
Shencomix post bike cuck style

No. 2114351

File: 1722467640751.mp4 (2.55 MB, 720x1280, [24-04-04] 1775755935048438185…)

>>2114035
male bitches on da xitter

No. 2114359

>>2114351
Drop this whore's @, nonnie.

No. 2114371

>>2114035
Clothing websites and sports photography

No. 2114378

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No. 2114380

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>>2114359
@tangtangmonster , there is also @usimetoo
if anon is like me she wont find what she wants on pinterest , freephotomuscle or clothing websites, so i hope this helps her like it did to me. I fucking hate how difficult it is to find sexy male hoe pics, why do men gotta be such faggot prudes

No. 2114385

>>2114351
>flabby abs
no thanks

No. 2114386

>>2114380
>why do men gotta be such faggot prudes
I take it you've never looked at male fitness boards or dating websites

No. 2114387

>>2114386
Those men are roided homosexuals who don't understand sex appeal.

No. 2114389

>>2114378
I am going to hand it to her that she actually usually does insect dimorphism pretty well (example: TIM wasp with a cardboard stinger) however it is completely wasted by brain dead coomerism and otherwise mediocre at best art.

No. 2114391

>>2114387
Well you're not using prude correctly since 90% of them also whip their dicks out at any convenience.(derailing)

No. 2114399

>>2114386
those moids only take their tshirt off to show their roid muscles to other homosexuals, taking their tshirt off isnt seen as sexual by men. My dad walks with his flabby beer gut in the open for all to see.(derailing)

No. 2114401

>>2114391
They need to start wearing bunny outfits, no1curr about their crusty dick. All cute twinks should mandated by the govt to be costhots. Put on the latex boots manslut!(derailing)

No. 2114553

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How do you get more attention on social media? I created my twitter a few days ago and I simply don't understand the algorithm. I think my art is substantial but I want to build a nice following without doing NSFW so i can start getting commissions.

No. 2114554

>>2114553
the only way to succeed as a sfw artist is to either be very good at art or do funny quirky meme art

No. 2114613

>>2114553
Keep posting regularly, join trendy tags that allow you to show off your work or make simple yet brightly colored tutorials to bait normies. If you interact with other artists and comment on their stuff they might check out your account and follow back or retweet a post or two.

No. 2114617

Did anyone else just get permabanned from artfight? I guess should've seen this coming but I didn't get to save any of my defenses. No DM from mods or anything, just straight up sniped.

No. 2114621

>>2114553
>>2114554
>funny quirky meme art
is good, but there is another level above that which is relatability. That's why fanart is a cheat code, since fans of the story thing can immediately relate to it. Being funny is also relatability, since the viewer is relating to it, illiciting an emotional reaction. Figure out what way you want to relate to your audience. Do you want to create original stories with OCs? Do you want to create comics of everyday life? Do you want to create intrigue through mystery or horror? Do you wanna relate through hobbies, interests and subculture? ie fashion, animals, birds, martial arts, fantasy, etc. Of course appealing art doesn't have to be relatable at all to be popular, but you can overcome lack of skill with relatability, and is more immediately actionable than just git gud.

No. 2114623

File: 1722484803658.jpg (17.92 KB, 563x554, ohwell.jpg)

>>2114617
did you use the pastures tag? everyone using that got banned, if you look up characters with the tag and enter the profiles, users were banned, for all the 10 characters that showed up, guess that report made by the tumblr faggot worked kek

No. 2114637

>>2114623
this is so vile fucking trannies ruin everything, next time anons please use a decoder like base64

No. 2114640

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nonnie i saved some character references from artfight i liked, and i WILL finish the art for you all! i will post my attacks in the rate my are thread in /m/. PLEASE if you drew a defence for me and i didn't comment, post your drawings, because i didn't see them! i was the profile with a single character on it (the cool bald chick with cargo pants). lmk if you want me to repost my attack also. let's make the best of this!

No. 2114643

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>>2114623
>>2114637
This is under the original confession post, lel.

No. 2114644

>>2114643
did they also target /ic/ scrotes or, like always, are only women censored for wrong think?

No. 2114645

>>2114643
fucking trannies. wish we could have a super ultra secret and restricted community like a discord server or a telegram group or whatever.

No. 2114646

This is so fucking depressing. Lolcow isn't even a terf site and yet we got punished for minding our own business and having a little fun amongst ourselves. Maybe next year I can make a temporary Art Fight Discord server for us to prevent this from happening again but it's absolutely ridiculous to have to consider something like that. I was working on a revenge for a fellow farmer too.

No. 2114650

>>2114644
did they even have a tag or were they posting their profiles on /ic/?
i kind of doubt they would ban 4chan scrotes because all zoomerfaggots want to have old internet cred and larp as edgy 4channers all the time, plus tumblr is filled with "4chan so wholesome and gay and trans supportive!!! and not racist btw" done by ex nazi/racist trannies

No. 2114651

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>>2114646
If nonnies are still interested in artfight, for next year i could host a website that gives you a few questions related to lolcor lore and when you answer right it gives you a word you need to decrypt using Base64 to get the artfight tag. I dont use artfight but i hate seeing women silenced by trannies and their pet handmaidens.

No. 2114653

>>2114650
they posted their profiles on the artfight thread
https://boards.4chan.org/ic/thread/7208587

No. 2114656

File: 1722487854482.gif (2.69 MB, 374x292, markiplier-pay-attention.gif)

Hey lurker if you're still here, you are a massive fucking cunt and I wish you nothing but the worst, you disgusting hypocrite. The one who conceals hatred has lying lips,and whoever utters slander is a fool.
>>2114651
That sounds like a fantastic idea.

No. 2114659

I’m trying to appeal my ban (not hopeful) so I can download all the attacks everyone did for me but it sucks seeing fetishists and creeps running free while we all get banned for the crime of visiting a website.

No. 2114660

>>2114656
chad tranny vs retards who thought they were going to get away with having an anti-tranny tag on a website full of gender specials and trannies. this is why you tards should stop watching anime and talking about art gossip and make your own female-only artfight ripoff website or continue to get banned everywhere because the only way to stop these people from censoring everyone is by making platforms that cater to likeminded women just like this place(constantly baiting/infighting retard)

No. 2114662

>>2114644
You already know the answer to that question. Also I don't think /ic/ had a tag

>>2114640
You could also revive the old 'draw my oc' thread >>>/m/146757

No. 2114663

>>2114659
Some of you are really, really dumb. WHY WOULD YOU POST THAT YOU GOT BANNED! YOU ARE GOING TO GET BANNED AGAIN FOR OBVIOUSLY BAN EVADING YOU STUPID, STUPID CHILD!

No. 2114665

>>2114653
i checked some profiles and no, they're still up
>>2114663
yeah posting about that here is pretty dumb
im only posting about this because i still have an account but i don't use art fight since 2021

No. 2114666

>>2114662
wait yes you're right, that's an even better fitting thread.

No. 2114668

>>2114666
nta but this is the actual last thread
>>>/m/188283

No. 2114669

>>2114660
>chad tranny
go back

No. 2114670

>>2114660
AYRT I never joined the tag but I'm allowed to be pissed off about the snitch

No. 2114671

>>2114663
Learn to read nona she's talking about artfight not lolcow

No. 2114673

>>2114656
The funny thing is their harassment towards random users is a bannable offense too according to the rules.

No. 2114674

>>2114671
Nta but that anon is also talking about artfight. The mods on artfight can easily come to this thread and see that anons are complaining about being banned. Why would they grant any ban appeals if they know that the users banned are guilty of wrong think and using an evil terf imageboard?

No. 2114676

>>2114674
If they are reading this they better ban 4chan users too, they linked directly to their profiles on the /ic/ thread here >>2114653

No. 2114677

>>2114660
Unironically true, they made their space so don't be surprised when they don't want you in there. I didn't see anyone in the ic threads bitching about they/thems being bad at drawing furries or whatever so it makes sense that no one from there got banned

No. 2114679

>>2114677
we both know they only didnt get banned because they are men, stop cocksucking trannies

No. 2114680

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>>2114677
Actually they did, hey Artfight mods check this out

No. 2114683

>>2114679
If you hate them so much organize your own art exchanges to not get banned. Simple as that.

>>2114680
Just e-mail the mods kek

No. 2114684

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>>2114660
>chad tranny

Lul

No. 2114687

>>2114683
>If you hate them so much organize your own art exchanges to not get banned. Simple as that.
then how about you do it yourself

No. 2114691

>>2114687
I didn't even participate in artfight this year because I have enough opportunities to trade art as is, you are the ones whining about it.

No. 2114696

>>2114691
>doesnt even participa
>still feels like her two cents matter
ok

No. 2114700

>>2114691
I don't care about pronoun havers and can happily ignore them, but don't you think it's sad that women can't have their own little pocket community on an already existing site? That we are forced to make our own spaces that eventually get invaded anyway?

No. 2114707

Well thet got me on artfight as well, sorry queens that i never got to attack i only had time to revenge the ones that attacked me as i had also shit happen that made me unable to use my computer for 2 weeks. Idk if anyones missing my attacks but idk how id get it to yall

No. 2114710

>>2114691
God forbid nonnies wanted to have some fun this year trading with new people. "Muh going into their space" Are you new? A good chunk of anons were trans or non binary identified in the past and/or have friends who are. They were already in the space, were they just supposed to leave as soon as they went on lolcow?
>just email them kekkerinoni
Why would any of the unbanned people announce what we're going to do? We're retarded but not that retarded

No. 2114714

>>2114707
I mean you could just ban evade, assuming that the people you drew attacks for weren't also banned. Just don't upload whatever OC you had tagged under pastures for now, to fly under the radar

No. 2114719

>>2114700
Can the same thing not be said about that site? In their eyes you're invading it. I'd understand if it was reddit or twitter but it's not like artfight is organized by some huge company, it was started and is maintained by the same lgbtq furries you bitch about. Which is why they don't want you there. It's not that hard to understand and there's nothing sad about it. If a normal female community on some social media made a tag none of them would've gotten banned.

No. 2114720

>>2114712
I know it ruins the surprise but you could always message beforehand to see if someone is willing to exchange addresses, that way your time doesn't get wasted. That's so sweet of you to want to exchange crafts, I've seen some on the site but I didn't think all of them would get mailed out, that sounds expensive if you want to do a lot of attacking.

No. 2114723

>>2114719
nonne of the scrotes who linked their accounts on /ic/ got banned

No. 2114729

>>2114722
Naw i was the chick with the dragon people, braid lady, sonic ocs, and a mask lady icon

No. 2114733

>>2114723
because theyre coomers lolishits welcome there but le ebil terfs aren't but i think thats for the best furfags cant be trusted anyways.making a local lolcor artfight is way better

No. 2114734

>>2114729
Aw man, they got you? I really like drawing one of them if you're appealing anything you should probably dirty delete

No. 2114735

>>2114729
Your style is really cool anon, I didn't have time to draw you something but I really liked your characters

No. 2114736

>>2114734
Nah im not begging to use that site, ill just do artrades with my friends as usual

No. 2114737

>>2114723
Tumblr users are more likely to browse here than 4chan to be honest. If you want something done about it you've got to at least make your own anon inquiry to that blog that started it.

No. 2114739

>>2114735
Thanks so much, i loved seeing everyones ocs.

No. 2114740

>>2114737
I wonder how many trannies browse here. After Null privated all her videos hours after being posted in her thread i started wondering how many cringe pickmes use these threads to complain about their fellow gendies without getting cancelled

No. 2114742

>>2114740
>Null
>her
Am I misunderstanding this sentence or something

No. 2114743

>>2114742
Null_backdoorho horrorcow not null josh moon

No. 2114747

>>2114743
Kek I didn’t know about that person, sorry. Thanks for replying

No. 2114748

>>2114729
>>2114716
I'm not interested in artfight but I wanted to make an account just to browse the tag and see the work of the people who post here.

No. 2114751

>>2114742
he transitioned so he wouldnt be hit with the hate crime allegations after killing byuu, you didnt know?

No. 2114758

>>2114733
>making a local lolcor artfight is way better
If there were something like this on Discord (or a more private messaging platform), I would definitely consider joining.

I don’t really share my OCs with the world anymore, so it would also be cool if we could just list certain subjects/motifs we like for people to draw.

No. 2114765

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I don't think there's anything milky about this artist, but I got sad seeing this because the 2022 versions look better and way more lively… I keep seeing a lot of artists' styles gradually become more soulless

No. 2114771

>>2114765
Wow, there's genuinely no difference between these. The simple dress on the right makes the left one look better but that's it.

No. 2114772

>>2114765
whats this type of style called? its like the high guardian spice style. I hate it. Either be full westoid or full anime, mixing both styles is hideous.

No. 2114776

>>2114765
the smaller faces don't mesh well with the stylized heads. It looks weird

No. 2114779

>>2114772
Styles don't need to be labeled. It looks nothing like guardian spice either kek.

No. 2114783

>>2114779
all faux anime styles look the same to me, ugly

No. 2114788

File: 1722495541369.png (2.4 MB, 2064x1188, 1710922657616126.png)

Greetings from /cgsg/, in light of recent events we would like to open our doors to any artists who are interested in participating in a predominantly female server.
For those who are interested in joining please be mindful that this is an art-focused server above all. If you feel /ic/'s culture doesn't align with yours, and/or if you are looking for a more casual chat-focused server then I encourage you not to join. If you have any questions please feel free to ask the mods upon entering the server for more information.

Please also note that a special exception is made for lolcow users only where they 1. Do not have to post exclusively men and 2. Do not have to post your work to the thread on /ic/. Just let us know what site you are coming from so we know to give you said exception.(do not promote on lolcow)

No. 2114789

>>2114783
They can be ugly to you but get your eyes checked, it might be the thing preventing you from getting good.

No. 2114792

>>2114788
Did you kick the femboyfag nazi already?

No. 2114794

>>2114788
fuck off cgsgfag dont act like we haven't forgotten your spergfest about your totally lolicoomer free server and the fact youre banned from ic itself

No. 2114795

>>2114789
Let me guess you draw in that style and feel called out? they look the same

No. 2114796

>>2114794
They got banned off /ic/?

No. 2114801

>>2114795
Idc if you think they're ugly, they just don't look alike. So many people like you here and in the /m/ thread unable to verbalize what you dislike from an artwork.

No. 2114803

>>2114801
all faux anime share the same things that makes them ugly. The faces are always flat and the proportions look off for the realistic faces they are trying to go for. Everyone ends up looking like a weird midgets.

No. 2114804

>>2114803
So your issue is having flat forms and bad design ratio then? I dislike beg art too but that's not wholly unique to whatever you labeled as "high guardian spice style".

No. 2114807

>>2114804
It is though. Westerners always try to mix moe anime proportions with unnecesary details like big lips and a nose bridges. There is a reason why people call it the gendie style.

No. 2114809

>>2114796
yes because shes the same pedo retard who got banned from their cgsg initial server for posting children in skimpy outfits and thats saying something considering how pedophilic ic is, came here,sperged ,got banned again after promoting her totally moid and troon free server. ignore this retard

No. 2114815

>>2114809
oh well that explains why they kept the nazi shota scrote. His ugly shota slime oc is featured in the most recent banner.

No. 2114819

Hopefully that thread on Art Fight about Lolcow will get more people there to check out this thread, realize we’re actually sane, and peak

No. 2114822

>>2114819
>that thread on Art Fight
Please nona post screenshots or a link.

No. 2114824

>>2114819
i admire your optimism nonna even if it is extremely naive

No. 2114825

>>2114822
I haven’t actually visited the thread, but was talking about this >>2114643

No. 2114829

>>2114819
the state of this thread is not going to convince anyone the userbase is sane kek

No. 2114830

>>2114758
So who’s going to make the server

No. 2114831

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>>2114804
NTA she probably just meant that it looks the style of people who are inspired by anime but either don't want to draw in the actual style or their old cartoon network-esque art style has such a grip on their muscle memory that anything they make to try and look like anime turns into this weird fusion, ergo "High guardian spice", "faux anime", "wanime" styles. The forms and proportions are usually fucked because they lean so heavily on stylisation, and the colours and line work are typically eye searingly digital, eerily resemblant of early Newgrounds animation. Westerners who don't bother actually studying the art style also end up fucking it up because they don't understand the reasoning for proportions or character design. Wanime can look cute or nicely stylised (picrel) but that's exceedingly rare in recent times
>>2114819
You mean the Tumblr comments? Nah, that's not going to do anything. Anons probably got spam reported by the same Tumblrinas

No. 2114833


No. 2114834

>>2114809
>>2114815
We at /cgsg/ have no affiliation with any pedophiles whatsoever. We never allowed shota artists and never will, this is well-known board culture.
Per our last invitation we accepted many users from LC and had a positive experience that we would like to replicate again.
Thank you and have a nice day.

No. 2114835

>>2114834
>>2114788
How many and what channels you have? May we have a look?

No. 2114836

>>2114834
>We never allowed shota artists
kek you literally have the nazi slime shotafag featured on your OP. And dont excuse yourself with ''umm ackshually hes not a shota!!!'' because anons found his old tumblr and he did lots of studies of loli artists like white datura, who draws semi realistic lolis.

No. 2114843

>>2114819
I'm sorry nona but your post made me wheezing

No. 2114844

>>2114834
>We never allowed shota artists
nice fucking lie
https://warosu.org/ic/thread/6851954#p6860748
https://warosu.org/ic/thread/S6756424#p6757415
this pedo WAS from your server

No. 2114850

>>2114844
They also had(have?) the schizo megaman shotafag

No. 2114854

>>2114844
This person got in for about a day and that is because they pretended to be a non-shota artist while hiding their identity. This person is known to have a vendetta with the server ever since /cgsg/ became a thing, specifically because we banned shota. They were allowed in under the assumption that they were a different person who did not draw shota, only to later reveal themselves as a shota artist once inside the server to which they were promptly removed.
Rules are much tighter now so that an incident like this does not repeat. Any claims of shota artists inside our server are misinformed and as server owner you have my guarantee.
This all said, I'm not here to argue. If people want to join then they are welcome to, if not then that's cool too. We just wanted to offer a comfy place to draw in light of the situation with Art Fight. Good night.

No. 2114856

>>2114776
Now that you said that the 2024 dude is giving me serious Akira vibes

No. 2114871

>>2114830
I have a lolcow adjacent server if anyone is interested. It’s semi active, there’s 90 people in it. The only thing is, you have to confirm you’re a woman with the microphone on discord. (Audio message). Everyone is verified as a woman, so.

No. 2114876

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>>2114854
> Any claims of shota artists inside our server are misinformed and as server owner you have my guarantee.
stop lying the shotafag is literally in the OP of the /ic/ thread. Do you want me to bring the captures again of him doing studies of an artist thats well known for drawing semi realistic little girls? or perhaps post the art of his shota oc in booty shorts?

No. 2114877

>>2114871
troons can use voice changers, do you have hand verification too?

No. 2114882

>>2114877
No, but there’s a feature in discord on mobile where it has to be the built in microphone , we don’t use voice calls, we use the one on mobile to verify it. Some of them are also from female oriented servers where they did do ID verifications but censored. Members aren’t allowed to look at any messages unless they’re verified, so it’s pretty private.

No. 2114889

File: 1722501023215.jpg (228.13 KB, 1080x1080, lithograph.jpg)

Does anyone have any experience with lithographs? I'm trying to get into it, and I'm curious if anyone else has any tips or tricks that they'd like to share.

No. 2114890

>>2114882
Is it specifically for art, or just for chatting about anything

No. 2114891

>>2114889
That's lino, not lithograph. Lino cutting is fun, but I definitely recommend getting one of those edge pieces to cut towards, otherwise you will end up slicing off a finger. Take a photo with your design on your phone and flip it before you start cutting, because the print will be flipped and it's easier to fix before you've started gouging.

No. 2114892

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More crying from Idolomantises.

No. 2114893

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No. 2114894

>>2114890
It’s for anything, but there are a lot of artists in there! It’s really just a lc adjacent server, a lot of lc users migrated in it.

No. 2114895

>>2114894
>It’s really just a lc adjacent server
is this the fujo discord?

No. 2114898

>>2114553
I personally don't think there's a silver bullet solution to gaining more followers on social media because it's so much about luck and who happens to see your art. For myself it was largely about that, I happened to be friends with people who went viral and then struck when the iron was hot, although I don't do commissions. You could post tons of fanart but go nowhere if you lack the charisma to attract people with either your art or persona, you won't be getting any attention. An artist I know is desperately trying to whore for clout by cranking out low grade FOTM fanart with no actual investment in the source and it always shows, and she gets absolutely no interaction online for it because it looks boring and has no real passion behind it. So I guess my advice would be is to be authentic and make friends with as many people as you can, and DON'T be an asshole to smaller artists because it always comes back to bite you in the ass.

No. 2114899

>>2114892
>At a young age
How old is she?

No. 2114900

>>2114899
24 I think.

No. 2114903

>>2114809
Note to every single anonnie on this site: do NOT join discords advertised on Lolcow, not even if they seem to be made in good faith and out of genuine concern for the lack of female spaces. They NEVER are.

No. 2114911

>>2114901
You can't delete posts after half an hour… sus

No. 2114920

>>2114889
My only advice would be to get a few pieces to practice cutting and following guides. The artists who use them make it look easier than it is to cut. And you should block out your designs in a way that makes it easier for you to cut.

No. 2114952

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I feel bad when artists have to make apologies like this because of their screeching fans
It also makes me want to go digging for that problematic old content kek

No. 2114963

>>2114952
>apologizing for drawing gore
is nothing sacred anymore? i thought violence and gore were fairly safe from "problematic" accusations.

No. 2114967

>>2114952
I wonder what caused this reaction because iirc her gore art wasn't even that bad. Although she's kind of got a spine of spaghetti, my personal cow has been acting unhinged for ages and she seemingly was fine with that until the moment said cow had a callout post made about them and she turned around and called them unwell and a awful person.

No. 2114986

>>2114952
im curious now.. what kind of gore?

No. 2114999

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>>2114952
>160k followers for relatable cat drawings
What the fuck. Where do these people come from

No. 2115008

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>>2114892
>>2114893
>I know I'm a good person.
KEKKKKKKKKKK
>Those people told me l deserved my harassment over one request.
>A couple dozen people throwing a fit over a nothing comment I said is an average Tuesday for me.
I like how in all these walls of text she doesn’t specify what the “nothing comment” and “request” was . Maybe cause it’s obvious she sounds like an asshole threatening to block someone for using heart emojis, and she’d end up blocking even more of her followers for mildly disagreeing with her?
>I don't apologize for what I said or how I behaved, but if that person was hurt by my words and unintended tone, I will apologize to them
All this talk about being a good person who’s better than those nasty toxic bullies who can’t communicate in a healthy way, and she hasn’t apologized? She responded to so many randos who disagreed with her but misses replying to “that person” in question?
>”If that person was hurt by what I said, I want to hear it from THEM”
Picrel
>person leaves multiple replies and mentions being hurt
>she ignores it
>someone points out to her that the person left more replies
>gets blocked
Yeah, she’s a lying hypocrite kek. But what’s new?
Idec about defending the feelings of an autistic furry coomer moid (unicorn pfp), but idolo’s had a history of far more callous comments and actions towards other girls. She claims it was in the past and she’s growing, but these text walls show she hasn’t, at all. Considering her job is basically being turbo-online, I doubt she’ll improve for a long time.

No. 2115011

Those of you who have a following: When would it be too late to rebrand? My """following""" isn't big at all (a little below 1k), but the fandom I'm in is pretty niche and I've already made a bit of a name for myself with big names following me.
I'm just a bit tired of my name, my old art, and the people I've met, so I'd like to just start over… but it might be detrimental to start an entirely new account. I don't know. If this is better off in the stupid questions thread please let me know and I'll delete.

No. 2115049

File: 1722515724117.gif (2.65 MB, 540x280, IMG_3708.gif)

>>2114719
> LGBTQ furries
You mean tranny furfags? Right? …Right?

No. 2115145

>>2114729
Aw wtf, if it is you I loved the attack you did for me nonna shit like this just proves how women will get exiled from communities over the dumbest shit. IC scrotes can draw lolishit and spew the most vile racist, misogynistic rhetoric all day but god forbid a woman is tied to le ebil terve website.

No. 2115150

>>2115011
Never too late to start fresh if you want to. Don't be afraid to nuke your gallery either if you don't want to look at old art anymore, sometimes that's easier to do. New twitter accounts take some time to fully take off, especially with that initial shadow ban, but it's nice when you make one and already have 20 - 50 followers. Beats the 0 engagement you'd otherwise get.

No. 2115161

Does anybody have advice for an artist trying to improve in terms of horror content? I really like horror artists like plastiboo and want to make gross/creepy creatures, but my attempts at doing something with the lighting or features to highlight a creepy/horror vibe fall flat. Is there something else I should be focusing on besides anatomy (human and animal)/shading?

No. 2115182

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>>2114892
>Wahhh drama wahh harrassment wahhh
And what exactly have YOU been grooming your little army of patreon subs to do for the past several years? If you’re tired of getting smacked in the kisser then stop throwing the boomerang, retard.

>>2115008
You have no fucking idea how hard I’m praying on this cunt’s downfall.

No. 2115183

>>2115145
Glad you liked. Sucks but its no big loss for me. I refuse to be a crpyto or suck troon dick so im uses to it.

No. 2115184

Is it still worth it to do ArtFight if I can finish some drawings before it ends? I really wanted to participate this year but I'm a lazy fuck with no ocs and couldn't think of any. Are any of you still doing attacks?

No. 2115188

>>2115011
I'm in a similar situation where nearly all of my followers are because of fanart of one specific thing. I haven't posted in a while though. I deleted a lot of my old drawings and changed my username and I plan to start posting original work instead of fanart. I think it's better to draw what you want instead of worrying about keeping the same brand.

No. 2115193

>>2115184
like i said i will be doing an extended artfight in the draw your oc thread because of the situation at hand, or alternatively in a server, if one is made. and also