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No. 1779356
Discuss what you hate about zoomers. Their trends, behaviours you dislike, cultures, and more.
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>>1664102 No. 1779844
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>>1779833>old married moids make ''wife bad'' jokes their entire personality>young women catch the memo, men dont want marriage>women start focusing on their careers, are happier without families/a husbando>new generation of moids reach their mid 20s>start complaining about how they cant find a wife and start a familyWHAT THE FUCK DO MOIDS WANT
No. 1779882
>>1779833watched half-way through his video on why porn addiction is bad before clicking off. I can understand why a woman might not mention morality when trying to convince men to be anti-porn because, to be quite frank, men either don't care about the ethics of it or dig in their heels and feel more emboldened to watch porn because 'feminists R bad ', but it's clear that he's just another man who thinks men are uniquely '
victims of the modern world' or whatever
No. 1780275
>>1779876I think this guy is especially mad that women don't want to marry and start having kids at like 19, because he looked at too many stock images of laughing young white trad families on sunny fields. They want this fantasy life of the veteran generation of riding the economic high on some chimneysweeper's solo income raising 10 children and providing them all with starter homes, while this has not been realistic in half a century.
Millenial men also enjoyed partying through their twenties and then they just chilled out and are now marrying other early 30's women and having kids, and this dumb retard is mad girls his age don't want to be unemployable baby machines (while you know he also thinks he shouldn't need to pay child support or alimony the marriage falls through)
No. 1780579
>>1780206I also had older parents (could be my grandparents) and a lot of grandparent influence… but my family is often on their phones too now! For example my grandma has always been a very social gossipy person and now she participates in online groups and shows me shortform videos that she finds. In some ways it's nice that she is able to connect with people (she is a widow and had trouble finding irl friends) but I worry because sometimes she sees dubious health advice or political conspiracies and doesn't notice the red flags.
But yeah, even though it's more extreme in younger cohorts, a lot of older people are very online too. Their usage isn't quite the same but they have issues too.
>>1780265Yep, I had a similar experience where some guy said told me that not using social media seems like I'm just trying to be special. I guess some people don't get the point of the "if your friends all jumped off a cliff…" adage
Also there's other men who say that women who do use SM are narcissistic whores so I guess you can't win
>>1780275It's retarded that they blame women when it's literally infeasible for most people to start that life even if they want to, and they think that all women hate kids because they stay in their bubble where they never actually encounter any. I do meet young women who are highly interested in family life and am myself partial to having kids, but it doesn't change that you have to work to survive and that in the mainstream normie world, going to college is highly expected of everyone, women included. Most men his age wouldn't be able to support a wife and kids even if they found a woman who was enthusiastic about it, maybe they should work on that before complaining about tfw no tradwife?
All the trad stuff is just a larp too, most of these guys are coomers who follow a modern online ideology and only have surface level values. Actual traditional people I meet aren't doing this chronically online whining but are actually spending time with their families and communities, and detest pornography.
No. 1933536
>>1933492You're right. The same fucking phrases being parroted over and over again like cancer cells dividing. Go onto the comments of any tiktok/reel and you can accurately predict the comments because everyone types the exact same retarded way with their retarded little phrases. I only use Instagram to talk to my friends but sometimes I accidentally end up on some reels and it always just infuriates me.
That 'womp womp' thing especially pisses me off. Where the fuck did that even come from?
There was one reel where some girl was saying how she was 'sick to her stomach' and some guy in the comments had no idea what that meant kek. So you don't understand age old sayings but you can understand 'womp womp' huh? Bleak.
No. 1933550
>>1780265This happens to men also. Most females think that a man is weird if he doesn't have insta, yet at the same time, they cry about their bf following hot foids on ig, kek. It's sad these bitches can vote.
>>1781181That's rich coming from the gender that wants to kill babies, but still feels entitled to the man's paycheck if she becomes a single mother. Fuck off.
(moid) No. 1933812
>>1933492i don't use social media but i hate how they seem to have no actual concept of individual thought. i'm sure some are out there but i'll browse lastfm and they shit up every artists page with shit "mother is mothering", "shes for the girls and the gays ONLY!" and when an artist comes out with an opinion that doesn't align with the current "correct" political opinion (you know what i mean) its swarms of "umm never listening to this artist again their music sucks anyways lol" and outright hateful or misogyny riddled statements if the artist is a woman.
been using that site for well over a decade and the influx of zoomers makes the site so hard to navigate without rolling my eyes…. they genuinely seem like NPCs. like on one hand im glad they provide traffic to the site that i love so it hopefully doesn't go down but holy shit it's genuinely made me hate zoomers so much more than i ever thought about because they say the same regurgitated shit over and over
No. 1934188
>>1934120I think it has to do with the leisure/athletic wear trend that started in the early 10s. It's like dressing like a lazy slob was all the rage, for men and women alike. By the mid 10s, it was normal to wear sweat pants out of the house, something I could never get behind. I think with Gen Z being teenagers in the 10s and being surrounded with that slob gym-wear style, it was hard for them to learn how to style clothes, how to match colours, i.e., how to dress nice. I have one of my mum's social studies books here from the 70s, and it has a whole 30 page chapter dedicated to how to style yourself, what colours look best together, how to make a wardrobe, how to make an outfit, etc., it was normal to be taught those things in decades past. Now we just have a bunch of people who think wearing a black t-shirt and sweatpants with boring sneakers is the only outfit that doesn't make them look "gay." It's sad.
No. 1934204
>>1934194Sure, it's
>>>/g/146601I'm glad you had an such an awesome book as a sort of guide to help you out in life, it's really sweet. It's too bad they don't make stuff like this anymore. We could all use them.
No. 1939434
I know adults are suppose to lead the younger generation so they can have a better life than ours, but zoomers and Gen A are too infuriating to deal with.
>>1933492>Every time I see a comment on insta or whatever with a valid criticism of something, they just respond with “womp womp” Also they call you terminally online as if they don't have phones glued to their hands and eyes. I'm willing to believe they spend more time online than millennials have. Even though they have spent the same amount of time online as a World of Worldcraft neckbeard, they are biggest algorithm slaves and can't go outside of their comfort zone.
And speaking of wannabe chads, anyone who spends time online is considered a 'loser'. The old social system has never change. People who are comfortable with themselves won't care about getting called names because they have better things to worry about (or have actual hobbies). Zoomers on the otherhand will implode at the idea they are losers; they can hide their hurt with irony postings all they want but everyone knows deep down its true.
No. 1939529
>>1934311Same, anon. Same.
>>1939434I've worked with gen z since the beginning of 2020. I've noticed some are willing to learn and listen, but it's a minority. A lot of them are easily distracted and need their phone 24/7. I worked in food, and even when it was busy I would see some of them scrambling to get their phones out to text someone. It's like they can't function without their phone or vape.
No. 1939543
>>1939516I’m a zoomer (19), from my subjective experience on the younger end of the spectrum and from my friends it’s honestly because of two things: the larger focus on looks, and media. Western tv, anime, tiktok etc. It feels like teenhood has the most focus so anything beyond that feels so far away and old. I’d say that this is a cause by association - the principle isn’t looking young but
being young. But since this generation is also more lookist and self-conscious (especially with social media) those things tie together. I think in general we suffer from a peter pan syndrome of really not wanting to grow up too, I would say this is somewhat to do with the state of society as well. I have friends that started calling themselves old at 18, and every friend I have 20-22 has told me they’re old now. It’s kind of everywhere, I recently saw a meme that essentially said 23 year olds don’t have much time left - it’s played for jokes but a very pervasive idea and to the people above whatever age is considered “old” even if they try to brush it off it eventually gets under their skin and then they start to believe they are. I also know people who have begun to romanticise youth more as the result of the fetishism of men. Coquettes and Belle Delphine-adjacents. Obviously this is my anecdotal experience and I’m surrounded by chronically onlines but I do think the main cause is due to youth in general being more valuable to this generation, with the fear of ageing being an extension of that.
No. 1939569
Genz fetishize youth because that's literally everything they got going on for them and the thing that gives them cultural relevancy at the moment. They aren't young "personality wise": they got no creativity, energy or nothing new to share, that's why they fear aging because unlike millennials or older generations, they got no legacy or creations to maintain themselves relevant in the mainstream as the "cool" gen when they inevitably become older, their only personality and achievement is being young, their millennials idols feel and act younger than them. They don't got no JK Rowlings, Beyonces, etc and I'm saying this as a gen z myself, I was expecting some interesting stuff to pop out but nothing ig. Lady Gaga and Azelia Banks were at their absolute peak at just 23, most 20+ genz are crying about being "OLD!!" and arguing about situationships and gender at TikTok, sad shit tbh
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>his note is so fire
he's talking about a suicide note
No. 1953920
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So you got an offer and signed an NDA and immediately thought to yourself "I'll go on instagram and break the NDA and tag the brand directly!!". What a real dumbass
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>>1933492Gen X did this, too. They love to respond in one-liners. I think it’s because they both are very media-driven generations.
>>1933965I agree with the age stuff. Previous generations always had their turn to complain about older generations, but with Zoomers, the age fixation is insane. They seem the most scared of aging and the most hostile to anyone older than them.
>>1939569I agree, and I hope the generations after gen Z will produce meaningful art. Gen Z’s approach to life and media is kind of pornographic. I guess it’s because it’s the first generation who had access to social media since birth.
No. 1958194
>>1958189Social anxiety, sorry
t. zoomer
No. 1961263
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Younger zoomers are in for such a rough awakening and honestly, they deserve it, this is insanity.
Of course every kid suffers from thinking of 30 as super mature and of 60 as close to dying but even as a dumb (pre)teen I never thought of somebody that age as oldlooking because I always saw gorgeous 40+ actresses on tv. It also sounds as if they look down on everybody over a certain age as "lame" which is also crazy because they're likely broke and have nothing going for themselves while actual adults got money and nice things, how can you feel so superior based on nothing but your year of birth?
At the end of the day it all comes down to a total lack of respect, how will they ever keep a proper job, there's no way they accept orders from higherups…
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>REEE THIS CROP TOP IS TOO SMALL!! THIS STORE IS ANTISEMITIC!!!
No. 1963552
>>1961263Agreed and that's coming from an elder zoomer. They will have a rude awakening the moment they finish highschool or college and get to the boogeyman age of 25 (or even 20 like some of them think already).
>It also sounds as if they look down on everybody over a certain age as "lame"They do, I interacted with some of them and it's bollocks. I was a dumb teen not too long ago, but I never considered people over the age of 23 old like they do. Or how they compliment someone who seems younger to them when that someone just look their age as if after 20, you turn into dust.
I firmly believe that TikTok and the not-so-sublte pedo culture of the last few years rotted their brains beyond repair. This applies to some of my peers too - they are already panicking of turning 25 this year and "officially" being an adult (but this particular type only lives from middle school and highschool nostalgia)
>how will they ever keep a proper job, there's no way they accept orders from higherups…This usually is the pattern of the "OMG, I'm turning 20 I'm so old hahaha" - they had less authority from their parents growing up (and I mean it in the least boomer way possible) and were allowed to do more than the elder zoomers. Basically, a lot of them do a lot of things in their teens that a young adult would've been able to do years ago like engaging in (expensive) consumerism with their parents' money, leaving their home and even town for days for example and their parents being chill about it and when they reach 20, they get bored with it all and wallow about being old and crippled or some shit.
Although I love how zoomers are calling out shit bosses and leave that shitty job, unlike our parents who endured such a workplace for almost nothing.
No. 1963586
Anti-wrinkle straw for the stanley cup kek.
No. 1963670
>>1963590 Everybody from the 80s looked retarded they had trash fashion wtf are u talking about
Zoomers looks retarded with the caterpillar brows and spider lashes but men and women in the 80s had trash hairstyles and makeup
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>>1963670Okay maybe you're right.
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>>1963670But the men used to dress so slutty and I miss that.
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>>2005593what the hell im sorry i thought i added the photo
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So apparently crew socks are something very millennial, and gen Z likes wearing longer socks. Lowkey makes me happy because long socks are now more acceptable as someone who gets cold easily kek
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>>20160162017 me preparing to like a tweet from a xey/xem transmasc chicanx corpsehusband kinnie that has DNI fujoshis on their carrd.
No. 2017773
>>2017769I didn't say anything about dating what, I mean when zoomers see anyone who's slightly older than them and have to go on autistic screeching about how "unsafe" they feel
Also as if that DNI would keep a real pedo groomer away? Like ah yes, if there's one thing pedo men are known for, it's respect for children's boundaries
No. 2017774
>>2017771dni radfems and terfs
me and the girlies interacting with the troon
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I flinch whenever I hear the word “valid”. These weirdass corporate clinical sounding words being thrown around casually by the zoomers is repellent. Does it make they feel more impressive? Because it makes them sound retarded. I’m glad I haven’t encountered the usage of that word here. I will call you out. I should only see that word when dealing with my bank.
No. 2019280
>>2019275kek why is
valid red texted?
No. 2020733
>>2019275That's a
valid reason,
nonny No. 2022404
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>>2020733>v*lidYOU ARE A RETARD.
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Zoomers are the only motherfuckers I ever saw and continue to see actually complaining about being past eighteen and in their 20s, worrying about being "old". Seriously. Of all generations, it really seems to be only zoomers that have a problem with not being "barely legal" anymore. It's like they're afraid of literally growing up. They're trying to make 20 the new 40. They will finally become the legal age to drink alcohol, and immediately think their lives are "over" and "doomed to be boring now". Every other generation would've been partying and bragging about turning twenty one, but not zoomers apparently. They're too busy complaining about not wearing diapers anymore. You know what, maybe this is why they're apparently aging faster than millenials, zoomers just don't know how to be happy with themselves. Sometimes I think maybe the previous generations are being too harsh on zoomers when they bully them, but then I see a zoomer post some twitter shit like "I just turned 20 today and I feel so old", and that's where I feel okay with millennials laughing at them. 'Cause what the fuck is wrong with zoomers?
No. 2049358
>>2049192We're going through a never-ending recession and everyone lies on the internet. I'm sure there are plenty of people your age who are making millions from shilling Bloom but the vast majority are just as fucked as you are.
Please continue to avoid social media. There really isn't anything on there that will make your life better in any way. And if it's any consolation, 99% of the child prodigies online are adults who've been working at their craft for years but pretend they're kids to get more attention. Or they're influencers who also have real jobs that bring in enough to pay the bills. Or they're nepo babies who'd be dead of a coke addiction before they hit 21 in any other generation. It's all a pack of lies, created only to get clicks and likes.
No. 2049705
>>2049358this. While social media can have an effect, the economy is hitting hard, people are missing out on milestones like home-buying, getting married, and getting an education is useless. Activities that use to be a fun part of adult life like going out with friends, bar hopping, road trips, etc are just becoming overpriced luxuries. and it's even worse since "not having a nice car, home, and everything else by 30 makes you a loser and failure" is still pushed with no regards with the fact the economy made this only a dream for most younger generations
I also feel like it's pushed by other zoomers too, I see a lot of obvious young people (usually women) get called old almost daily
No. 2049716
>>2049182Fellow zoomer here (20), and I partly agree with what
>>2049192 said (though I think it’s a good thing that people are sharing and making money off their hobbies). I feel “old” now because I’ve spent the past few years as a depressed Internet addict, and have been moving forward in age while staying in the same slump mentally.
I think Twitter may be conveying a skewed idea of how our generation feels. The young people posting about being “old” are likely similar to how I described myself above: sad people sitting online being painfully aware that they’re wasting their youth. Online communities are the realm of depressed shut-ins trying to retreat into nostalgia.
If you were to talk to happy zoomers having fun in a public place, maybe they would have a different sentiment. Take, for example, my younger brother, who has a big group of friends he regularly hangs out and goes places with.
No. 2114202
>>2113857Don't put photos of yourself online if you can help it. Don't say where you went to school or where you live or where you are at the moment, even if it's something generic like 'I'm out of the country' or 'I'm eating at McDonald's near work'. Don't give out information about your job or what it entails, unless you're on LinkedIn, it's easy to find out what you do and where you work even with minimal information. Don't post real time updates, even something as simple as posting a photo of your nails can make you identifiable. Never post about places near you, including landmarks, especially if you add extra information, like 'I hate driving to Costco because there's always a ton of traffic when school ends' because that tells people 1) that you live close to a Costco, 2) that it's near a school which means they can pinpoint which Costco you go to, and 3) that you can be found there, probably alone, after school ends on a weekday.
Call me paranoid if you like, but I know that this shit got people doxed before social media really took off, and these days you have kids who publicly dox random strangers for funsies and share the information with their hundreds of thousands of followers. There are a lot of lunatics who spend their whole lives taunting women they've never met and driving them to suicide. There are a lot of retarded tweens drunk on the power of having 400 followers who will do anything to power trip. The internet is forever, the best thing you can do is to literally not post anything real online at all.
Tl;dr- lie about everything and don't show your face.
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Why do zoomer moids talk like this. We need to ban their internet access
No. 2114477
>>2114461It makes more sense if you hear someone say it. Its another AAVE rip off.
>>2114476"Mid 90s ass day", a day that feels like the mid 90s.
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I think it’s so stupid that zoomers have to make videos about “quitting social media or being addicted to it” because they let this internet slop ruin their lives and perspectives. It’s even more shameful that so many of them have a porn addiction and unironically need help for it. Ffs go outside you retards and turn the phone off.
No. 2115054
>>2114489People who cry about "wah muh internet addiction wah" are always fucking insufferable. They wax poetic about their struggle as if it puts them on the same level as crackheads, but at the same time they're allergic to taking responsibility. Yes, social media is designed to be addictive ragebait, but it doesn't stop you from putting your phone down or deleting your accounts. Zuck isn't holding a gun to your head and forcing you to doomscroll. They're also likely to claim that muh anxiety and depression means they can never go outside and socialise ever, and that's why they absolutely MUST stay in
toxic Discord servers which make them miserable for 15 hours a day. Because that's definitely better for your mental health than getting a real hobby kek. Sorry for the rant but I absolutely hate these whiners.
No. 2125166
>>2125150No, not rent free. Felt it after dealing with zoomers.
>>2125153Was discussing AI art with someone in this random Discord server I'm in. Turns out this someone is an artist, so I asked them to post what they're working on now. They posted it, I remarked on how their technique wasn't that good and could use improvement, the way they worked in Photoshop was also bad and told them how to work in layers properly so it doesn't bite them in the ass later. They rebutted, but meanwhile, everyone else in the server suddenly goes "oooh, fight, fight" and treat it like it's sudden drama. Except it wasn't. It was two artists debating technique. Zoomers have no idea how to differentiate people debating and defending their opinions from people screaming and calling each other names. I fucking hate dealing with these idiots. I don't care that covid made them stupider and emotionally stunted or that they'll always be the retard generation. Good. Fuck 'em. Stupid cunts.
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I can’t fully hate them. I think it’s kinda cute how excited the younger ones get when I talk about being a young teen in 2007. Tbh I’d be depressed too if I had to grow up in this current environment where everyone and every single things is broadcasted online. Sucks to be them lol
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>>2125839ntayrt but shit like this
No. 2130584
>>2125958,
>>2126263Instagram is gonna for Gen Z what Facebook is for boomers and Gen X
No. 2139406
>>2130593>Everyone feels and looks the exact same.That's because you
are the same. It's that idea that's been floating around on many imageboards that all subcultures that have merged together into this amorphous blob "monoculture" thanks to the internet and social media (among other things).
No. 2139468
>>2138686nta but I'm pretty sure it was just a joke
>>2138495strangely I've noticed more non-americans on the internet using it.
No. 2139975
>>2138495I'm actually a southerner and I get told off on here sometimes when I use it
It hurts!
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zoomers are really stupid
No. 2143991
>>2143494Come on
nonnie, can't you see he's just a little scrimblo?
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>>2144493Hmm, I feel like I've heard this sort of thinking before, but directed towards a different group. I can't remember, think it starts with m…
You sound just like the generations that came before you. You're making the same complaints they made about you.
No. 2144519
>>2144493What, you mean fair wages, better work-life balance and reasonably priced rent and food is wanting a silver platter? LOL are you faggots really that dense that you can’t realize advocating for this will improve
everybody’s lives, not just zoomers.
>>2144514Who knows what they are, they’re probably just baiting.
>ugh those sjw gendie zoomers are getting on my nerves with their marxism for wanting to eat and live without stressors giving them early-onset cancer!!! >ugh those radicalized extremist zoomers are getting on my nerves being racist and misogynistic towards everyone!!! We’re just a scapegoat for their horrible decisions they made during their own generations that ended up affecting us, plain and simple. Every day were always used as a scapegoat for everything they hate in the world, supposedly we’re lazy and expect things to come out of a magical hat but then when we don’t do anything and become passive and disinterested in anything we should have fought for futures or something. It’s honestly ridiculous, zoomer hate makes me smile because I love seeing a bunch of shitty bitter oldfags seethe.
No. 2145219
>>2145214They have more access to information than any generation before them, but they'd rather squander all their opportunities and whine on TikTok than actually do anything with their lives. Seriously, I've never met someone from Gen Z that acts like an actual adult. They're all stuck at age 15 and think the world is their TikTok dreamscape.
>>2145217Reminder not to minimod. This is the "zoomer HATE thread." If it's affecting you so much, stop coming onto this thread. I don't go on the dog hate thread and call the posts their rage bait.
No. 2145247
>>2145240The "answer my question" thing sends me spiraling cause 90% of the time, their question got answered but it just wasn't the answer they wanted to get
>Inb4 anons use this for any reasonThis is 100% a zoomer moid behavior (I feel like most behaviors being described in the thread are exclusive to zoomer moids?)
No. 2145279
>>2145267never encountered this with a zoomer girl thankfully
>>2145270the autism excuse is so tiring, especially since actual autistic people were fighting to integrate in the general public and working hard to be presentable, now you have autistic zoomies demanding us accept them acting like the escaped the mental asylum just because, or even worse when they attack actual disabled and autistic people who they disagreed with
No. 2147009
>>2118802This is old but you forget one very crucial detail anon: porn. Boomer men were the first generation who had relatively easy access to porn in the form of DVDs and magazines. It hasn't just not stopped since but it's grown to be more of an exponentially worse and worse problem. Also they lived through the sexual revolution. You can trace all their degeneracy and personality disorders to that point.
What you are describing also makes a lot of sense though.
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Could've done it in the time this stupid ass post took. Zoomers are like this about everything
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So many are socially retarded. I just watched a zoomer give a play by play on discord of how scared he was to walk from the car through a parking lot to get to a store. Putting on a coat in front of people is “cringe” they’re all such massive dysfunctional cowards. Anxiety can affect all ages but these zoomers don’t have a courageous or confident bone in their body and I find them so pathetic.
No. 2180249
>>2180226Or mental illnesses. Stuff like simple depression or anxiety doesn't count. Or maybe it does in scrotes, but talking about testosterone will
trigger the gendies and troons. Anyway stuff like PDs or bipolar, schizophrenia etc. Yes it's not nice to stigmatise people who are in treatment and want to change, but you cannot deny that mental illness is literally
illness and will harm
No. 2180266
>>2180227It's not the fault of zoomies, it's the fault of capitalism and the psych industry. Like every private industry, they want more customers, and their solution to that was to proclaim every tiny personality quirk and every reaction to one's circumstances to be a deviancy from the norm. The norm being a good wagie. Notice how the criteria for all illnesses includes "if it interferes in daily life", the daily life being spending 8 hrs a day making money for shareholders.
To drive in that capitalism is the main problem, notice how there exists such a thing as "maladaptive daydreaming" (wtf???) where they say you shouldn't be a dreamer because it brings nobody any money, but parasocial relationships are not officially a mental illness (even though it's obviously a maladaptive bond) because it brings several industries a ton of cash.
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>>2192976Do they actually think bad people are going to care about following those? I’ve had “TERFs DNI” people initiate conversation with me on Discord, and it’s so ironically funny because they don’t know I’m secretly a “
TERF.”
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>>2192976>>2193110It’s gotten to the point where people say “basic DNI criteria” as a lazy shorthand for racists, pedos, etc. and then add all the people they personally find annoying (like fans of specific media). There are even Carrds describing these “basic DNI criteria.” Here’s a particularly obnoxious one:
https://basic-dni.crd.co/KEK at
>you use the toothpaste or listerine flags(gayden fujoshi flag)
>transmisogynistic>you think men can be oppressed for being men(mutually exclusive)
>you identify as a fujoshi/fudanshi(interesting how they said nothing about yuri fans…)
No. 2194248
>>2194247Also
>pro amab trans men/afab trans womenPoor Kikomi is not allowed.
No. 2194738
>>2194730i see that pov and agree but why are kids who haven’t even joined the workforce yet debating on if they should have to do slave labour or not kek.
the internet makes them all think they’re far more advanced than they really are.
No. 2194756
>>2194730In order for this to be effective we need to instill laws for either longer legal required care from parents/guardians/foster or some other form of programs because a lot of kids get kicked out on their 18th birthday if not shortly after they graduate high school, and then even more American kids are trying to escape
abusive homes. We can just build a society expecting extreme independence at such a young age, and then continue to increasingly remove all the aspects that once allowed for teenagers to be able to support themselves
No. 2194925
Top kek at my fellow zoomers nlogging the fuck out of this thread. I do think a lot of you are over generalising on some fronts but I enjoy this thread for the purpose of self reflection. Personally it's hard to tell if something is a common experience for all generations or a symptom of a given period and generation. For example, cognitive dissonance or general disassociation is so pervasive amongst my peers it's creepy, though it's easy to spot in others I may very well miss it in myself. A lot of my college friends act like this, on the surface they seem normal but they're hiding insane coke addiction or alcoholism and are deeply unhappy with themselves and their lives, unable to make choices for themselves due to succumbing to outside pressure, usually parents, and act out in the dangerous adult ways that are now more readily available mainly drug and drink and sex as if to prove how adult and independent they are.
>>2194767I'm dying to get older personally, I'm most looking forward to my thirties followed closely by the following decades before retirement and really only because the 30s are more immediate than later decades so I get to enjoy it sooner. From what I'm told/can tell, your emotions and hormones mellow out and life might get easier the more experience I have.
No. 2196220
I think Gen Z’s thing where they view being like 20-25 as old and being afraid of aging is because they sort of had it drilled into their heads that after 21 there’s basically nothing valuable about them anymore, that’s also why there’s this rush to get married so young to the point of almost being trad, because getting married in your 30s or 40s is seen as too late for you to find love. It’s also this nihilistic view many of them take, “Fuck it, I’m gonna die, so is everyone and everything else I know, no one will care and all my dreams, hopes, wants, and personal development are for nothing so I may as well just sit around and wait to die” and that attitude is why we have things like 14 year olds on TikTok teaching how apply anti aging cream, because they’re in denial of their own aging and death so they’re trying to pretend it won’t be there. That’s also why the whole reality shifting thing got big, just another attempt to escape from sad reality and go to your dream world in Harry Potter or wherever
No. 2197504
>>2196220>that attitude is why we have things like 14 year olds on TikTok teaching how apply anti aging cream, because they’re in denial of their own aging and death so they’re trying to pretend it won’t be there.Not denying that it's partially the reason but I think the biggest reason was unsupervised access to tiktok and imitating the young adult beauty vloggers. It's irritating that the parents didn't put a stop to it because they think that it's cute how young girls are now getting a headstart on being
victims of beauty industry consoomerism. I'm a millennial and I remember thinking I was old at 21 because even back the idea that 18 is some magical age where you transition into a full fledged adult and was prevalent. At the same time I do think people in general were more lenient about being able to enjoy certain hobbies and fashions without being called an old hag by 25 (not saying that it didn't happen because it still did, but it's not as bad as it is today with all the "ummm excuse me, i'm a LITERAL CHILD" that 18 year olds like to pull when you try to hold them accountable lol).
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>>2196374Millennial women were told "Whatever you do, don't get married young!!! Go
find yourself and travel and girlboss and figure out your life first before you're legally bound to a man" (which is solid advice). Now that we're in our 30s, zoomers and boomers are shitting on us for being "old" and that it's too late to have kids or we're selfish for waiting. It's exhausting.
No. 2199252
>>2199202>waaah we were told to do xyz and it was a lie>waaaah they promised us careers and housesI was promised a pony too but my parents clearly weren’t going to give me one kek
Congrats you’ve discovered that most human beings talk out of their asses, not sure what you’re playing
victim for though. Millennials are so annoying with their whining. Did you expect mommy and daddy to always give you instructions for living
your life? Some people have war in their countries.
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>>2197504I noticed there's not really any “tween/teen” fashion, makeup or hair anymore, with social media it’s all blended together now. Gen Z and Gen Alpha girls are on tiktok from a young age getting their fashion and makeup and hair advice from women in their 20s and there’s no longer trends that only exist for teenagers. And also the standards have gotten much higher for what they look like. When I was in high school most girls weren’t that good at makeup and now they’re all pros with makeup tutorials and high-end products. Our “makeup tips” from Teen Magazine in the 2000s were like, a small block of text saying something like
>Use a swipe of blue on your eyelids and blend for a pop of color!and we all just had to figure out what that meant with our shitty little drugstore eyeshadows and foam applicators, kek
No. 2206985
>>2201451It becoming more mainstream has just made it so zoomers split into two groups too, the ones that are far left and say anything is pedophilia and want le inclusive troon representation or whatever and talk about how everything is
problematic, and the edgy ones who are far right and will call you a filthy tourist despite barely watching anything themselves if you don't masturbate to loli, with the latter group also including some older creepy men in it as well. Both are insufferable and anime should've just stayed a niche thing so I wouldn't have had to witness how cringe both of these groups of people are. It 100% contributed to the coomer brainrot and should've stayed something people were ashamed to talk about in public
No. 2213409
This isn't really zoomer hate, but I've noticed that the older zoomers think they're the first generation to hate working. Also many of them will talk about not wanting to do the hustle culture thing but then also talk about having multiple income streams/just be a tiktoker and make money/etc. Now outside of the ones saying that to grift a shitty course they're selling, it's a wild mentality to me.
Also this might be more of a cultural thing, but it's insane to me how many consider getting food delivery almost daily something that's the baseline, and not the luxury it is. Same for going on vacation/holidays. But I'm also from a low middle class family so that's probably part of it too. Everyone should be able to dine out now and then, but that's also always been something special for me growing up, not something that was done more than once or twice a year.
>>220788529 would be zillennial or straight up millennial.
No. 2236500
what do you guys think about Zoomer's wanting to bring back lavender marriages?
No. 2236501
>>2236500At first I was gonna say that I don't understand why people my age would want to return to hiding homosexuality, considering we've lived in an era for quite some time now where homosexuality isn't only legal and socially acceptable but also has almost in a way started to outbalance heterosexuality. But it seems like being gay has lost the spice it had 20 years ago.
>A 40 year old man picks up our son in his Kia What the fuck?
No. 2236658
Idk if this has been said before but I’m so sick of the sooner/ social media behavior; they overshare, film people without consent, then are crybullies when you call them out.
I also disagree with their whole “muh abuse” type of shit, like life is hard, but these babies cry, too damn much.
I also hate their form of “alternative fashion” is wearing black, and being performative for troons, the metal spaces are shit now, and the local bars in my area now don’t do emo night, and now have Taylor swift, chappel roan, and Charlie xcx nights, I’m sick of them
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Went to my local library to get away from my shit home and this is what I see on the desks. And no I definitely didn’t write this, the library is next to a school. If this isn’t fueling my antinatalism than I don’t know what is. I’m tired of these spatially retarded snot-filled children, they’re absolutely brainless, can’t read/write and are the most selfish, devilish humans I’ve ever encountered. I feel like this is more about gen alpha than zoomers but my god I would love a thread for gen alpha hate. Inb4 they’re just children, yeah… even the mini scrotelings know they’re monsters. They know writing this is wrong and I know for a fact this was written by a male child not a female one. God bless these young girls… seriously
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>>2271129That's why I genuinely don't understand people who genuinely think that children are innately innocent and incapable of hate. I remember being a child and I'll say it with my full chest that children are some hateful motherfuckers. Kids are still people, and people can be very shit and all on their own, man. Even non-human "kids" are shitty. You know baby foxes kill each other?
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>>2271140one of my side projects is on the concept of the malicious or evil child in earlier times. I don't want to be too specific here but there's a poem (in praise of a martyr) where schoolboys stab their teacher to death with their metal styli. (text below picrel says he was murdered by them - the poem describes them carving their lessons into his flesh)
Probably never happened but idk I want to find more examples of kids being evil. Often in pre-modern history/lit they were depicted as neutral and boring, without personality. There's at least one book on the subject but I hope to contribute more to his analysis eventually
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https://embedded.substack.com/p/the-root-of-gen-zs-hyperindividualismFound an interesting article on their hyperindivudalism with a zoomer interviewed. These jerks need to read "what we owe to each other" by scanlon and get their head out of their asses
>>2236658Crybully is an amazing descriptor of their behavior
No. 2271268
>>2271156>>2271156>Often in pre-modern history/lit they were depicted as neutral and boring, without personality.Woah
nonnie can you elaborate? I find this intriguing.
No. 2271520
Not exclusive to zoomers but I really hate the whole "spreading awareness" shit that's rampant in burger zoomers. Not to sound like an
abusive boomer but some of them really cannot take a joke and have no identity so they vicariously live through defending communities who didn't need their defense to begin with. Eg some streamer made a COVID joke 4 years ago that was apparently insensitive to Asians? Burger zoomers everywhere screeching about it while countless Asians reply they found it funny/not offensive and then the zoomers will attack them too saying they're pick-mes and self-hating. If you really cared for COVID issues maybe do something about it, like pay for strangers' vaccines or medical bills from acquiring COVID or something that actually helps people. Oh you can't? Then shut the hell up about your "awareness". You think likes, tweets and pfps help?
>>2271129Agreed we need an alfie (apparently this is what they're called kek) thread. Especially since they're growing up in the age where social media and politics and extremist ideology is rampant combined with the iPads in their faces. Cue alfie boys making rape jokes at the age of 9 to the girls in their class and the "your body my choice" shit.
No. 2271559
>>2271546Millennial teachers are reporting hearing it in schools right now. Also no offense but do you really think schools (especially burger schools) will do anything about that kind of thing? Teachers will assume that's on the same vein as name-calling, hell they punish
victims who fight back when they're being physically bullied and send sexual assaulters off with a pat on the back.
No. 2273123
>>2196374>She doesn't know old sperm is actually the one at fault for most if not all of birth defectsLmao pedo pick me loser. Have fun wasting your 20s chasing some shitty vile moid that will resent you for making him "give up other pussy" and will traumatize you and your children cause you fell for a meme created by leftover pedo men in their 40s.
Keep getting your relationship and family planning advice from post wall red pill bros, I'm sure that's gonna work out flawlessly
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>>2273123Samefagging but fuck these fear mongering tradtard bitches, if that isn't a moid as per usual.
Ladies, look out for expired, low quality sperm. Date younger men if necessary. Modern men's sperm count has been decreasing over the years, and the ones they've got left are basically deformed and swimming sideways if they swim at all.
Don't reproduce with a scrote who's past 35. Hell even 30 may be too late for them (see pic related). His sperm has expired. It's a life sentence for your kids, you are gonna produce some deeply autistic kids at best and some literal retards at worst. This is part of the reason why zoomers are so fucked up and slow: many of them had older fathers cause gen Xrs and millennial moids refused to start a family until found themselves in their mid 30s when they realized they were going to die alone. Don't fall for this psyop, calling a pregnant 35 year old woman a "geriatric pregnancy" is a literal meme (that is not even an honest way of addressing a woman on that age, since the word geriatric refers to an actual elderly person) created and pushed by projecting pedo doctors during the last century that female doctors tried to fight against but got silenced. All while conveniently hiding the whole issue going on with the decay of modern men's sperm.
All men say about women, fertility and age is anything but projection and cope, as everything going on with men is.
No. 2273151
>>2273141This is a fascinating subject
It's such a steep drop that there's bound to be multiple causes
Interestingly nobody proposes that the prevalence of porn and jacking off two thousand times a day since puberty has any effect on sperm quality and quantity. Nah, the chronic over-use and over-depletion couldn't possibly have anything to do with it
No. 2273204
>>2273137I've learned about human development biology and studied biomedical science both are bad for fertility and the health of offspring. Elderly paternal age is associated with schizophrenia and autism, elderly maternal age; down syndrome and the risk of stillbirth. A dramatic age gap between paternal and maternal ages is correlated with stillbirth and premature births. A major problem with female reproduction is the number of gametes diminishes severely over time due to menses whereas males doesn't at the same rate but the male gamete has issues with chemotaxis, thermotaxis and capacitation which are the main drivers of fertilization. Another thing to consider is that the male gamete is motile and energy expending while the females are energy retaining and stationary so the mutation rate is influenced by this factor too. Cell differentiation and turnover probably has an influence on the mutation rate of sperm too. Other factors are sperm competition. I don't know much about the male "infertility crisis" but it sounds like bullshit. "Fertility" is declining in all developed countries because for the first time in human history women have a slither of human rights, and the main reason being that they can't afford it. There is no deep reason, and its not a infertility crisis in women, its a "choice of human rights crisis". Women just can't afford to have kids and the global south is catching up. Women choosing not to have kids is not a crisis. The uterus can incubate eggs and the uteruses of older women 40-50s pre-menopause are capable of a healthy pregnancy but you'd need egg donors and there's likely more complications resulting from this. It still bares mentioning since the reproductive limit of women is based around the finite and diminishing number of gametes, not the apparatus for gestation itself.
>>2273145I don't agree with calling a woman over 35 "geriatric" due to mainstream pedo-culture but pregnancy is not good period, and women are more at risk for breast cancer from pregnancy, cervical cancer from STIs and ovarian cancer from birth control. The rate of say prostate cancer is not comparable to the commonality of breast cancer.
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Randomly remembered the weird dm Julian Casablancas sent to a young girl on ig and got chills
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Gen z is literally just millenial 2.0 except they havent done shit. No major movements or any political action. They just… post.. They believe anything said to them on social media. All they do is talk like millenials. "hey so um hating trannies is bad, actually!". Literally what is wrong with you, you should be shoved in a locker you dork. They don't do any political action yet constantly police eachother and split each individual hair over frivolous ragebait pushed towards them by silicon valley trumpshits. It's actually "them damn phones"!! They're literally addicted to ragebait and it runs their culture. They fell for the tradshit, they fell for shit like temu and shein, they fell for general grayness. It's so embarassing, I can't even name anything culturally significant in the 2020's other than like covid 19 or brat. Shit sucks
No. 2292359
>>1939569The reason for this is YouTube and social media. They all incentivised mediocrity and quantity over quality so thats the zoomer mindset when it comes to media.
There's no more reward for being a real creative. There's ONLY a reward for following the rules. Marketing firms set the trends, you follow them. End of story.
No. 2305063
>>2303378This is why the extremely large span in years for generations is retarded. Older zoomers were old enough to be og scene kids. I don't even see 17-20 year olds trying to recreate scene looks besides like 10 terminally online kids. And there was absolutely a large music scene where scene kids typically listened to the same bands that they bonded over; mostly emo and metalcore. Bands like BOTDF, Escape the Fate, Suicide Silence, Sleeping with Sirens, Asking Alexandria, Never Shout Never, etc. This was the point of subcultures, everyone having something in common that they liked and wanted to signal it to others to find a community. This no longer exists today. Scene kids were adjacent to emos just a more fun, colorful version so self harm was still very big back then. These are outcast kids who ended up participating in genuine counterculture, after all.
However, I don't understand why younger gen z has to add "core" to everything. Why are they so uncomfortable just calling it "scene"? Because it's been dead for 15 years?
No. 2310353
>>2310330Because they have no creative thought. They just pick up the preexisting trends and add core or some stupid name to it so they can feel like they’re doing something. All whilst shitting on millenial trends and insisting that they do them better.
The few trends they did come up with had no longevity.
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>>2310207>My generation (i’m a millennial) spent most of our time pushing against labels and encouraged people that it was ok to be different. With gen z, they all have to fit into whatever trendy category exists.My least favorite trend is "whimsigoth". It's always just normal shit from circa 1995-2010-ish. Not even "alternative", just normal stuff from JC Penney or Big Lots.
No. 2314040
>>2310240> Kids are always experimenting with their identity, but nowdays it’s so much more politically chargedAgreed, but I also can’t blame them to be fair, especially zoomer women (I’m an older zoomer myself), given the times we live in and how moids will gladly elect a rightoid schizo that will forcefully enroll them in the army just because they hate the fact that they don’t get the lives of their grandpas and more and more women choose to opt out catering to scrotes. And everything right now is unfortunately tied to politics.
> most of their parents are just shitty and never should have had kids in the first place.Also agreed, most of them were either very controlling of their kids or very neglectful, no in between (not a burger tho, but I don’t think there are huge differences). A good chunk of gen X women are pickmes and gen X moids are either mentally absent from the family or even left their families to be whores their entire lives.
I also noticed that they live vicariously through their kids (older gens did that too, but I think it’s worse in gen x-ers) and their kids were usually trophies to flex with when relatives and friends visited so they can validate their existence kek. In that sense, things like creativity and stepping out of line slightly was punished especially by the controlling “flavor” of gen x-ers. Can’t blame them tho, they had it worse in that regard, but man…
As for zoomers, I don’t know what they can hold onto anymore to be honest, feels like the world is crumbling at the hands of rich old farts and we can’t do much about it except for surviving (which gets harder day by day) and form some type of community but zoomers as a gen are so divided so it’s pretty hard and idk at this point.
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How thin skinned zoomers are. They literally have a giant spergout if you even slightly criticize them. Even if you gently educate them on something they got wrong, they get super defensive. It’s so strange. I’ve encountered millennials like this of course but they didn’t make up most of the community. I feel like now I have to walk on egg shells and be extra nice if not my DMs will be full of angry zoomers kek. Also the whole “hot girls don’t gatekeep” thing is so annoying. Gatekeeping is necessary especially now that the competition is brutal. I’m not sharing sources because I’m an asshole, I’m not sharing because you’re literally the competition kek.
No. 2318651
>>2313376>Scene was entirely new and different from goth or glam metalCompletely false.
Some of the biggest bands scene kids listened to heavily copied 80s glam. Black Veil Brides and A7X especially.
Also, there is no such thing as "entirely new". Sure, scene had more to it than anything the fortnite generation has come up with but everything's derivative on some level.
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>>2313376I disagree, Gen z isn't completely unoriginal. There are unique fashion subcultures that come out Gen z, like e boys/girls and earthy girl styles for better or for worse. More fashion subcultures will pop up as Gen z and gen alpha move into their teenage and adult years
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>>2318967What about that horrible cyber streetwear style?
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>>2318967Just remembered about 'opium' fashion
No. 2320165
>>2319311>Zoomer women and girls are fine. It's the zoomer moids that are a problem. I wouldn't say it's that cut and dry. Moids have more problems than women obviously but my friends-of-friends are all pretty compelling arguments that Gen Z women are far from "fine".
A lot of it feels like Gen Z moids and their sheer vapidity and small-mindedness rubbing off on younger women. I feel like people who don't feel like a chore to talk to are rare.
No. 2320523
>>2320165Zoomer women who are male-centered are a
nightmare of contradictions and doublethink. It doesn't help that zoomers are pretty obsessed with finding a niche/category to "belong" to so those same women will dig their heels in about their position kek. Speaking as a zoomzoom myself though I do know a lot of women who aren't like that.
No. 2320525
>>2320026Ngl I like this, and I don't think zoomer fashion is
that bad. It just bugs me how they keep inventing 10000 different labels every week because they're desperate to go viral kek
No. 2320526
>>2320522"Dayum the weather is so Ohio". Genuinely heard some Gen Alpha kids down my street say this.
"Can't have shit in Ohio".
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>>2320532The Ohio meme existed before Gen A where it was just "Ohio is a bad place" and honestly it was kind of funny, picrel. Ohio shall take over the world! Gen A just turned it into a random meme word though.
And yeah for the first one, it's not supposed to make any sense. It's often used as a synonym for "good" or something positive but note that Gen Alpha humour is supposed to be incredibly ironic and meaningless. Words are just… there. "You're so Ohio, you're so skibidi".
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>>2320539Idk I will laugh at anything from boomer to zoomer humour don't mind me. It's so unfunny that it's funny.
No. 2320588
>>2320585I never had the app, I just heard people say them or watched them on YouTube. Deez nutz hahah goteem.
>>2320586Barbecue sauce on my titties
No. 2322147
>>2318854>earthy girl stylesSo…hippy shit from the 70s?
>eboy/egirlMaking cosplay, sanrio, and anime your entire personality isn't a style nor was it new when they started calling it egirl/eboy.
No. 2322170
>>2318854>e boys/girlscoomery hot-topic goths
>earthy girl styleshippies
so, nothing original then
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>>2322183>Its weird how desperate zoomer women are to be seen as sex objects to menDA Kek I agree because I grew up watching this happen, I still remember when ddlg shit hit big on tumblr in the 2010s when I was a teenager. What I find interesting is that despite all this desperation, zoomers are still having less sex than previous generations because, unsurprisingly, when one associates sex with something as degrading as porn suddenly it stops becoming something to look forward to and instead becomes something to dread. Alas. One thing I find especially retarded is that moids think consuming and making moar porn and filling mainstream social media with it is "owning da feminists" but in reality it's just alienating women from them because they look like fucking freaks to the average woman, even the women who try to be the best coom object on tiktok don't really want a man with a porn habit because they know those men just see them as porn.
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>>2322172The high amount of 'goth' female characters during 2000s and 2010s cartoons also had a play in making alternative fashion less repulsive to moids. Characters like those in picrel are a common childhood moid crush for zoomers. Note that some of these characters aren't really goth, but have some dark aesthetics, I think that might have contributed to simpler goth fashion today
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I HOPE "ALT"PEOPLE ON TIKTOK FUCKING DIE!(calm down)
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>>2322172>Stuff like goth and scene and emo were supposed to be repelling to moidsTbf, scene was never meant to be "repellent to moids". It was always associated with young women and girls who partied, wanted fame and enjoyed male attention. MySpace "site models" were a huge thing, Kiki Kannibal being one popular one. The community was kind of rampant with pickmeism and creepy males. There was a lot of sexualized behavior within that "subculture", hence bands like BOTDF and risque photos/outfits being common. A lot of former scene girls have horror stories of those days.
This is less true for goth and emo, but even the goth subculture has/had ties to the BDSM and other kinds of fetish communities before normies ever picked up on it.
I think the unfortunate truth is that most subcultures with a majority of straight women won't be overly invested in being "repellent to moids" (maybe a certain type of ultra-normie moid they dislike, but not all of them). No. 2392983
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do you agree?
No. 2395289
>>2392983i think all gen z no matter the younger or older gen z lean more right compared to millenials. Gen Z will be the new boomers or gen-x.
I wonder how gen alpha or beta will be like though. Alot of gen alpha boys are growing up having sneako and andrew tate as their idols + unrestricted porn access.
No. 2395294
>>2392983It's very U.S.-centric, so I don't really agree with it, but the school experience with regard to covid is definitely something that likely will have a more defined impact on people who graduated post-covid in years to come
>>2323215>>2323223Ofc all of these categories are made up, but in the past the generations lasted longer than 10-15 year spans. The way there's such a divide between what we'd consider older-zoomer vs younger-zoomer makes me feel like maybe zoomer as a category entirely should just be shifted into either millenial or alpha because how they interact with technology seems to be the largest defining characteristic, though I think the effects of the pandemic might become more prominent.
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>>2440594am i insane or was it re-popularized by billy on stranger things? girls went absolutely nuts for him and it seemed to become a thing around that time, now it's just stuck around
No. 2440643
>>2440636I have not seen this yet. Is it a recent scrotnomenon? I am afraid to witness.
>>2440637You might be right. I did not watch this show but I remember the uproar about it. What does this dude look like with his sunglasses off? He has some muscle definition but it is mini. As someone who has seen him for the first time I am not impressed. He does look better than gross moids with the same style, but not much better. Still very gross.
>>2440640I am shocked that he was shilled as a sex symbol. can any of you imagine jilling one out to a fantasy including this dude who looks like this? just imagining the heat coming off his grody moustache when he tries to kiss me makes me want to puke.
No. 2440650
>>2440645I thought that stranger things was a gen X thing. It was what my parents and their large gaggle of friends were into because of 80s nostalgia. It bored me to tears as a millennial after a few minuets. I am amazed that it was a big zoomer thing.
I mourn for the zoomettes not getting to know what a cute youthful 20s guy actually looks like because they hide behind shitty razored mullet hair and gross facial hair that does not match their face shape at all. At least the guys who similarly razored their hair in my youth had clean shaved faces highlighting their at-peak facial features.
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>>2440649He looks even worse without his character's styling. Like a gay humanfied Shrek
No. 2440969
>>2440940Awh, I don't follow that post-leftcows thread so I went to look at her. I saw a video from 4 months ago
>>>/snow/2054327 is she really considered ugly? She looks cute to me, reminds me of someone's sister. Maybe I'm faceblind kek.
I don't think Dacre would be a cow though, he'd just be an actor who says weird things sometimes. His costars always like him too much for him to be cow status.
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I watched a video about why local music scenes are dying and forming bands is becoming far harder and it sent me down a tiny rabbit hole of "why X hobby is dying" videos (car culture, skateboarding, art, etc etc). None of them were just doomer whining (they all contained that but) they all had actual evidence to back up every claim.
This brought me to a rather horrifying conclusion: The vast majority of people in my generation only care about social media. It's their only """"""passion"""""". I see this in people my age more and more. I am lucky to have a friend group that isn't like this, but it's small. Most scrotes around my age all have something inherently robotic about their personality. It's not even anything outwardly "toxic" like the redpill shit or whatever. They just never seem like they're behaving sincerely. Like they're in some YouTube video or something. Finding people like this isn't totally impossible but everything seem to insular now. The guy who owns the music shop who sells me strings and stuff even said he sees "less people your age in here"
No. 2488522
>>2488513*finding people NOT like this
Ok. I definitely put a "not" in there when I typed this. Fuck is up?
No. 2488543
>>2488513Things are probably only going to get worse before they get better in terms of hobbies. I'm so fucking embarrassed to be a part of this generation because we are literally contributing basically nothing to the creative world and lots of us are just rehashing older trends in a slightly different way. And the worst thing Is most zoomers are fine with being on the nostalgia treadmill and not actually being exposed to anything really new.
That being said, I've seen an uptick in proposing a philosophy of digital minimalism among zoomers (although I'm not sure if its because I'm being fed by the algorithm). Point is, there are zoomers who realise they're just sitting and consooming random shit and not contributing anything, and the tide is very slowly changing.
But we still have to find a way to not just be the perfect products for advertisers and start to create something ourselves. Basically I know what you're talking about, and I hate it too.
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>>2488513Zoomer here! To be fair, the amount of places that you can hang out at without having to pay and arm and a leg has dwindled. A lot of places don't allow teenagers to walk around without an adult in sight either. Kinda wish I got into skateboarding, it's a very social activity
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>>2488522Well anon, you don't use login info here but if you emailed someone and "not" was removed from the body of the message (or used another app with login/draft messaging) someone could theoretically remove or alter words. It would be very annoying and you would have to get new accounts or even a new hdd/device
No. 2490483
>>2488520Just because social media tells you something is widespread doesn’t mean it is. I saw the movie (do not recommend) and it was just kids cheering at various parts. One friend I went with is a social media addict and asked the cleaning guy at the end “so has this theatre been trashed for these showings?” and the guy said “uh, no?” I didn’t get that there was any significance to the question until a couple days later when I was talking to a different social media addict friend and he started gushing about how TikTok tells him everyone’s totally destroying these theatres all the time. Like dude, have you experienced that? Has anyone you know experienced that? Has your local news been reporting that it’s happening in your community? Or is it just “the algorithm keeps pushing me this so it must be everywhere”?
I felt the same thing a few weeks ago when these same friends were talking about how everyone’s constantly vandalizing teslas. We have a lot of teslas here and I haven’t seen a single one with any sort of visible damage. But that idea wouldn’t keep them staring at the screen so that’s not what they’ll see on it! And they’ve disregarded their flesh lives for the screen to the point that whatever they see on it is their reality more than whats physically going on around them. I swear we’re screwed.
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zoomies getting nostalgic for covid
No. 2500436
>>2488638There's nothing like the experience of walking into Abercrombie and being unable to see any of the clothes, overwhelmed by the smell, and lost trying to get out.
(I might be thinking of the wrong store it's been years nonnies)
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Found this and I'm convinced half of zoomers have autopedophilia because wtf
No. 2542779
>>2535758>Hello Kitty bagstop
Please stop.
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>>2536092A lot of zoomer girls are becoming disillusioned with feminism because they need to work and pay the bills and
still end up doing most of the chores and childcare while trying to make themselves look good for the moid, of course. Couple this with manosphere ideas becoming mainstream (women hit the wall at 25, men never hit the wall), and of course they are going to be attracted to tradwifery and more 'traditional' living
No. 2542870
>>2542847>are becoming disillusioned with feminism because they need to work and pay the bills and still end up doing most of the chores and childcare while trying to make themselves look good for the moid,The only solution is radical feminism. Not even in the most pure form, just
any level of radical feminism applied to their lives would save a whole generation of women. I've never been the biggest radfem myself but I try what I can and I feel more free than ever. Women should get introduced to basic radfem concepts without men, trannies and handmaidens calling it evil or scary.
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>>2543016Remember the vapes around that time that actually looked like plastic cigs
No. 2543195
>>2542770>>2542772The “2007” is to represent people born in 2007 who are turning 18 this year.
It is pretty crazy though, back when I was in high school I didn’t know a single person who wanted to wanted to remain a teenager, we all wanted to hurry up and be adults already. I feel like if you complained about getting older you’d be made fun of for being weird and acting like a child.
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>>2535758never forget your roots
No. 2544139
>>2544085what do you mean? their version of SAHD is playing video games all day
they're looking to recreate the dynamic of "summer break with a single mom".
No. 2544419
>>2544085Nonnie, do you mean
>Why aren't they sitting around chasing career women and begging to be SAHDs if taking care of toddlers and infants by yourself is extremely easy?Because if so, I would say its because its women's work. Men will weaponize thier supposed lack of knowledge about cleaning and doing basic childcare, so women must work if they dont want the house to look like a dump, and the bare minimum for thier children.
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>>2544085This is what being a stay at home dad means to men (1/2)
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>>2544472She paid his bail and defended him during his trial
No. 2544644
>>2544559I think one of the worst things about zoomers is their use of AI. And I don't just mean like using AI to cheat on all their homework and thinking plagiarism is okay (although that's bad too - so many people are getting degrees that they barely did any of the work for and this will make the future workforce incompetent and retarded) but just the casual use of AI instead of google to look things up, check facts, etc. I see older people doing this a lot too actually (like copy pasting AI assist google replies into videos/articles as 'sources' instead of actually finding a real source by googling) but zoomers and gen alpha do it constantly, even though AI is completely unreliable and hallucinates/lies/makes shit up. Even if it doesn't it can be algorithmically manipulated very easily so people just get whatever 'side' of an issue is popular or the company wants to be seen by everyone who looks something up. The habit of even basically fact checking something and being able to look up sources or put any effort at all is going out the window and it's going to make people so retarded when they're so heavily reliant on the internet for literally all their information. At least the boomers doing this already learned actual things from actual sources and personal experience earlier in their lives.
When it comes to the hobby shit I also think it seems dire because picking up hobbies gets harder as you get older, and AI/social media funnel everyone into the same groups, beliefs, hobbies or even ways of doing a specific hobby. I'm a musician as a sort of side job and when I was the age most zoomers are now there was an active live music scene where I live, where people would actually go out to shows all the time of smaller local bands, bands they'd never heard of, etc. I know COVID shutdowns were partially responsible but now when I or my friends play gigs in my city almost nobody shows up to them relative to a few years ago and the people that do show up are mostly older. A lot of venues keep shutting down just because of low turnout/nightlife culture being restricted exclusively to clubs and not bars or live music venues. The cover fees haven't even gotten more expensive so it can't just be a cost thing, I've played and attended plenty of free shows at cheap dives where no one under the age of 35 showed up. That's part of the reason zoomers aren't starting bands and playing music as much anymore (along with the rise of cookie-cutter digital music they make themselves on their laptop at home) and it also flattens the heterogeneity of music generally since bands that are in any way unique can't make it even as a hobby in a local scene, it's only the biggest popstars and random soundcloud rappers and tiktok sound makers.
Music is just one example but my friends with other hobbies say something similar about other hobbies, say sewing/fashion design - all the fabric stores are closing because most of the people with DIY or sewing hobbies are older and young people aren't into crafts that are offline/involve working with their hands. The skills are just gonna get lost with no one wanting to learn them. Social dance communities that used to be vibrant with lots of young people joining and making friends/meeting partners that way but now are full of 35+ people and almost no young people, even the ones that are totally free or PWYC. It just seems like pretty much any 'hobby' that isn't online/you can't easily film for tiktok is being grandfathered out and it's sad because a lot of these things used to be largely young-people things.
I don't really care about dumb youth slang, stupid recycled fashion trends or whatever but I do really worry about the skill loss in zoomers and gen alpha, they're not really learning many 'new' skills that older generations didn't have to replace older common skills either. Like millennials were supposed to be the gen that was 'naturally' good with computers and that's mostly true - we type much faster, have much more basic knowledge of Excel, photoshop, etc. but younger zoomers type slower than Gen X and even boomers, can't figure out excel and word processors, are typically worse at looking up info online, etc. I think older gens just assumed they'd 'pick things up' because they grew up with so much technology but iphones don't involve learning that many new skills compared to computers and atrophy others (like reading/typing). I guess zoomers are better at video editing. This is definitely in part older people's fault who should have pushed them to learn shit and socialize and develop hobbies, I'm not entirely blaming zoomers for it, but it's weird that no one seems worried.
No. 2544733
>>2544675I've been reading more articles and it looks like he was massively neglectful and dangerous in multiple ways, like drink driving, losing the kids, physically abusing a daughter he lost custody of. He was also watching porn while his daughter was dying in that car. The pattern of behaviour was so obvious that his wife was being neglectful by leaving their kids with him.
Tbh it still sucks that this shit always lands on the woman. She presumably had a demanding job and was busy, so of course she wanted to be able to leave the kids with their father. She told him over and over not to do all that shit but she was underreacting and nowhere near proactive enough about keeping them safe, and now she's paid the price. It still drives me insane that a man can do something completely evil and disgusting, and the majority of the responses are dissecting the woman's role in enabling him. I'm literally doing it right now, it just goes to show we're so desensitized to horrific male behaviour that it's not worth talking about. That's just what they're like and it's as simple as that.
No. 2544895
>>2544853Kek nonna I didn't even know zoomzooms considered these green flags but I 100% agree with you. Hating children is a red flag in almost everyone (I give a pass to like teachers or people who have worked with kids a lot) but especially in moids, who rarely have to raise/deal with children and therefore are probably just evil clusterbees/dark triad trait moids if they hate children for existing. A moid that doesn't even have to deal with children on a regular basis hating the most innocent and vulnerable group of human beings seems like a huge red flag to me. Moids who want to be a SAHD are almost 100% of the time just lazy pieces of shit kek, I think it's fine for moids to decide to be a SAHD when they have kids and the wife has a significantly better career but having that as a goal before you even have kids is pathetic. I don't know why any young woman would think a moid without ambition or work ethic is a good thing. Even if a woman has higher earning potential/earnings than a moid I think any good moid would have it as his life goal to earn enough that he could take care of her if she didn't work or have a child, just as a default, no matter what.
The atheism thing is just retarded but it's the new 'cool' thing after people noticed that many religions support immoral acts. I don't think atheism is necessarily bad, and especially for women it makes sense since most trad religions are highly misogynistic, but the reasons moids reject religions are not the same reasons women tend to reject religions (misogyny/second class citizen status for women). Most loud/obnoxious atheist moids reject religion or are atheist because they think it makes them rational and cool and superior to other people, and they just replace religion with fandom, porn use, sucking up to moids like Peter Thiel, etc. I used to be such a staunch atheist but now I think I would prefer a moid who is like 'culturally catholic' or a deist or agnostic because at least it doesn't imply the same level of smug assumed superiority. Also moids always use atheism as an excuse to be into polyshit or breaking down cultural norms about the innocence of children (hence the child marriage/pedoshit) or just to talk down to 'stupid women' who tended to be a bit more culturally conservative throughout history by even ragging on atheist women for having 'religion-derived' moral beliefs around safeguarding of children or 'sexual prudishness' or whatever. I have a male in my family who is like this and he is the most casually misogynistic, obnoxious, child-hating man in my entire family while the rest are 'tradcaths' who you'd think would be worse but aren't. He made his wife and child's life hell because his wife chose not to abort and he kept saying 'babies are stupider and of less value than pigs.' Obviously is the only male in my family who doesn't understand why troons in women's bathrooms are bad or why porn is bad. I'm atheist too but I'm really suspicious of aggressively atheistic men. Also if you look at the early 'new atheist' moids they were all extremely anti-woman, like Zinnia Jones the troon caused this huge rift/purge in the new atheist movement of all women who were anti-troon/anti-misogyny because all the moids rallied around the disgusting dragon-dildo troon instead. So yeah I don't get why this would be a green flag unless the guy is just casually atheist/agnostic, but if he's one of those rationalist/Thielite types I'd stay the hell away.
Sorry none of that was an explanation kek I think the explanation is just that zoomer women are naive and assume moids who buck societal expectations do it for the same reason zoomer women do, when that usually isn't the case.
No. 2544920
>>2544895Hating children often comes along with hating small animals or ANYTHING he considers "below" him. Other manifestations of this include zero tolerance for any mistakes and he'll infantilise you eventually and use that as an excuse for how badly he treats you. You can also bet he has zero empathy for disadvantaged people, minorities, anyone of a "lower" social status or class than him, you name it.
>I think it's fine for moids to decide to be a SAHD when they have kids and the wife has a significantly better career but having that as a goal before you even have kids is patheticNah even if the wife has a better career, he should still be working here and there. Like, this economy ain't gonna let you live on one income. We should all be poly just to survive on multiple incomes at this point. The only exception I'd give a SAHD is if he does WFH jobs.
And yeah, zoomer women think moids who defy the typical expectations of the misogynistic man are angels when they're just misogyny redefined in a different flavour.
No. 2544953
>>2544920It's a minority of people but some people do live comfortably on one income and some families (women included) want someone to be at home 24/7 with young children. I think in theory it would be fine for a moid to stay at home with young children if his wife is high-earning and doesn't want to quit her job but they both decide they want a parent at home with the kids full time. I would be suspicious of any moid who has that in his 'life plans' though or suggests it before the wife does. Kind of an aside but WFH jobs are fucked for kids as well because then they see their parent constantly staring at and giving attention to a screen instead of them, and are likely to develop abandonment issues/screen addiction themselves - I know a couple with a toddler where the woman does some WFH and they are already having this problem, where they don't give their toddler any phone or computer access but she's constantly trying to grab it while her mom's working. Rich people try to avoid this for obvious reasons.
You're right about child-hating moids also hating animals, weaker/less well-off people, etc. Like I literally cannot imagine any universe in which that would be a green flag. If a moid can't even empathize with/like cute innocent children/animals then he's probably some form of psychopath. Especially moids who hate cats tend to be psychopaths, because cats don't act as servile as dogs, and this is usually also the case with children.
No. 2545642
>>2545286This isn't just a zoomer thing. Boomer and gen x let their spouses and family members abuse kids and SA people and just swept it under the rug. Millennials further traumatized and silenced abuse
victims constantly. Gen z still sucks in the fact that they will do nothing about someone they know that is being a groomer or whatever, but it's not exclusive to gen z unfortunately
No. 2546410
>>2536625I'm a zoomer too and I'm just as confused on why my generation is more auto-pedophilic than the others.
My guess by using my own life experiences has to be the internet and early exposure to anime because that's what fucked me up and I'm sure that's what caused alot of trauma in those girls too.
Growing up on the internet getting groomed by so called female communities like the coquette, cutecore, Lana del rey stans and ddlg ones. The anime which is filled with the normalization of pedophilia and a gateway to hentai and even more extremes, fandoms and the rise of proshippers and creepy adults who have taken over fandoms meant for children or fandoms which were originally not sexual.
I could go on and on…but the biggest reason for this is the internet. It's rotting these girls brains and making them go into mania and making them go on a self-harm loo0 where they consume the same pro-ed/skinnytok/glowup/y2kbimbo/coquette/animegirl/kpop content over and over again.
This is embarrassing to admit but I will say it here as a example of the effects of the internet and what the things girls are harming is causing to themselves: I became underweight and pale due to my kpop obsession in the past of wanting to look like the idols, I almost destroyed all of my hair and fucked up my skin due to all the haircare/skincare influencers and their terrible sponsored advice. I became obsessed with age gaps due to the anime and spice I was consuming which almost lead to me getting groomed in real life.
Like it's been years and the aftermath and the effects of that are still there especially the age one and fear of how I will be treated once I reach my late twenties.
No. 2546466
>>2546410I actually think a lot of this was already happening on the early internet with millennials when we were younger, but I think it just affected a smaller subset of millennials because we didn't have social media yet so it wasn't as common to be extremely online, a weeb, or into weird niche communities. I think/hope a lot of zoomers will grow out of the autopedophilic tendencies the same way millennial girls who were in those spaces did, but the thing that worries me is that the social pressure related to being/looking young is just more ubiquitous and all-encompassing. When I was growing up a lot of the most beautiful hollywood actresses and singers everyone idolized were often in their late twenties and 30s, sometimes even 40s, but it seems like there aren't as many famous celebrity women in that age range who are considered peak beautiful anymore.
If it makes you feel any better I started getting treated much better overall in my late twenties and most of my friends have the same experience. When you're really young moids are turbo-creepy like they smell blood in the water, but as you get a little older and are more likely to have a career and act like an adult that slows down while genuine romantic interest from normal men stays the same or increases. I also think women start acting a little less competitive and unhinged once you hit your late 20s although it might depend on the friend group.
No. 2547469
>>2546466This is what I thought as well. Also, we talk about zoomers being autopedophilic (which I agree with, and even growing up on the internet most of my friends at like ~15 were into coquette or ddlg or cnc and hentai and other weird stuff) but we don’t talk about like… how this doesn’t exist in a bubble? It’s not like zoomer girls suddenly wake up wishing to be underage jailbait forever. You have scrotes these days hammering in how women are most attractive before 30, no 25, no 20, oh actually men prefer 16-year-olds to adult women. It is very much societal. Fact is, trends have simply shifted and it is considered desirable by our porn-rotted internet to be as young as possible. When I was very young I remember what you remember, there are still popular attractive celebrities in their 30s now of course but there were way more in their 40s before (I never thought 40s was old back then either) and now it’s completely different, like two women could look the exact same but between them it’s trendier and more popular to be in your early 20s over late 20s. I’d say there’s only a window of a couple of years but I don’t even think it’s that, I think the desirable age has been skewed to be partially underage. If the songs about “feeling 22” and stores named “forever 21” were made today it would be like forever 17 or something. There’s always been weird older women who boasted about “looking 16” in the past but now it’s young women doing it too and it’s bizarre. Like, you’re 27? Why would you want to be 16 over fucking 27?
I don’t even think most people think like this irl, it’s like a media thing?
And if I’m to say my own experiences too as a younger zoomer, since the age of 12 pretty much most of my hobbies and what I’ve looked up to was anime and kpop, same with all my friends. I remember literally crying because I was losing time I was the age anime characters were, I thought 16-17 was the ‘best age’. It’s crazy that at the time I never thought about how the only reason I felt that way was because of the media I consumed.
Anyway, all of this is a weird mix when you consider the fact that people aren’t viewed as full-fledged adults automatically at 18 like before. So you have people wishing to be ages they consider “literally a child”
No. 2547506
>>2547469>>2547488Yeah the rise in/normalization of weebshit probably plays a huge part. Idk about koreaboos because I watch some kdrama and a lot of it is about older adults (I think the average age of lead actors and actresses in TV dramas last year was like 52 or something) but obviously I'm not really watching youth-oriented content since I'm not the target audience anymore. Japan's media pretty much acts like your life is over at the end of high school though and this used to badly affect the weeb girls I knew growing up, except only outcast loser girls back then were weebs (and were also the ones most likely to be in the weird autopedo online communities getting groomed by old moids). Normies considered it lame and weird to watch anime. I was always a weird crossover person because I acted like a total normie irl but I was more online than most millennial girls and noticed the two groups shared like no media or interests. Now anime is an extremely normal pastime as are a lot of weeb video and phone games so if that's the media most zoomer and gen alpha girls are watching I could see it intensely skewing their perceptions of what the most pleasant or fun age is. Like you said
>>2547488 I grew up with lots of media glamorizing young adulthood, or even the 30s, but it seems like most popular media now is about kids doing stuff that actually only adults really do.
I also suspect COVID lockdowns and school going online contributed to this, because everyone who went through some part of school/college during that time was driven online and toward more media consumption instead of actual real life experiences. Which could both give you an unrealistic sense of how 'fun' teenagerhood is supposed to be (just seeing it in media instead of seeing what your peers would normally be up to) and also give you a sense of FOMO about youth and the years you spent online. Plus people are hitting the milestones of actual adulthood later and later, which probably makes it seem less fun and exciting to hit the age of 18 or 21 or whatever than it was for earlier generations who were more likely to move out of their parents' homes. Having a sense that you have less to look forward to can make you feel like the best part of your life is already over even if that's highly unrealistic and almost everyone prefers adulthood to their high school years. Like yeah there's nice things about high school, not having to pay your own bills or buy your own food, but for the most part it was pretty boring for most people. Before the rise of constant 24/7 social media access you would see your actual peers and realize most of them weren't that hot at age 15 and weren't living glamorous lives, but now you can see 16yo influencers jetting around and seemingly living ultra-exciting lives.
>the fact that people aren’t viewed as full-fledged adults automatically at 18 like before. So you have people wishing to be ages they consider “literally a child”This is the weirdest part to me. Like your average 28 year old is still living at home with parents but simultaneously 'walled' and too old to get married, kek
No. 2547525
>>2544644The late 00s/early 2010s was a fantastic era for live music, I could go out almost any night of the week and see a decent rock band play and the bar/venue would be packed on a weekday. So many awesome spots from my 20s are gone now, feels bad.
>>2544853>Hates children, SAHD, AtheistSeeing these traits all listed out together and I'm just picturing the most insufferable, cheeto-dust-fingered, Reddit male imaginable.
No. 2547544
>>2547525Where I live I can still go out and see good live music any night of the week, but a lot of my fav venues did close and more concerningly, the ones that are left are largely empty. Like even if I go to venues that used to be full on a weeknight, there will be like 5-10 people in the audience maybe. You can't really go out and meet people organically in the types of social spaces you used to be able to meet them in, and at least where I live a lot of public spaces where young people used to hang out like parks, urban cafes, etc. are just getting more dangerous, overrun with drugs and crime which means it's harder for young people to just casually hang out in third spaces now. Which probably makes it harder to make friends, harder to date, harder to stay off social media in general. I'm really concerned that gen alpha will basically live their entire lives online at this rate.
>>2547538Yeah it's insufferable, although this didn't start with zoomers, it started with boomer/gen x intellectuals and media pundits.
No. 2547545
>>2547544At least boomers and gen x pundits used legal terms with
valid meanings like fraud, conspiracy and treason though.
No. 2547546
>>2547545No I mean calling everything 'nazi' and 'fascist' or '
abusive' and whatever largely started in university classrooms, then spread out from there onto social media. I agree zoomers use these words for everything way more than they should but they didn't exactly start the trend. College profs in the 2010s were largely responsible for putting '
trigger warnings' on the most random shit in their classes and making young people feel like it was normal to overreact to everything.
No. 2547554
>>2547550The satanic panic actually likely was real, the academic who they hired to claim the abuse
victims had false memories is a quack who was paid a lot of money to come up with the false memory hypothesis and she also testified against the Weinstein
victims. It probably wasn't actual satanism per se but most likely they really were
victims of pedo/grooming rings. I think it wasn't a coincidence that a lot of the original
victims who came out all actually lived nearby and accused the same few people. But there have been insane overreactions to all sorts of benign things in the past too, like the 'harry potter is going to turn kids into witches' shit that evangelicals were doing when I was a kid. It has gotten worse overall but I think it's largely due to social media spreading bad ideas and bad rhetoric very widely very quickly. I feel like no one really takes accusations like fascist/nazi/abuser/bigot as seriously anymore because it's a boy who cried wolf situation at this point.
No. 2547562
>>2547546>calling everything 'nazi' and 'fascist'I hate this shit so much. I got told I was spreading fascism because I said BDSM and related fetishes are
abusive. I wonder what the people living in genuine fascist states feel when reading things like this. Like how zoomer retards also like calling themselves communists but have never experienced or even acknowledge what a communist/ex communist country looks like.
No. 2547579
>>2547562Kek I'm a younger millennial and it started with my generation a bit although it was less common. An online friend I'd talked to almost daily for over a decade since we were kids called me a nazi and fascist repeatedly once despite knowing some of my family members were holocaust
victims, because I said it's not unreasonable to be suspicious of 'financial elites' which she for some reason decided was a dog whistle for jews and not… financial elites kek. Then when I pointed out how fucking insane it was to accuse me of being a Nazi when some of my family members were killed by Nazis she didn't apologize but doubled down instead and said it was 'traumatizing' that I called her out like that. I also got suspended from facebook once for posting something about some bad historical precedent for something from Nazi Germany, because I was 'spreading Nazi rhetoric' by posting a quote from some Nazi figure and criticizing it. The communism thing is also ultra-insulting and horrible, especially actual tankies who shill the DPRK or Stalin/Mao. A bunch of tumblr radfems back in the day were unironic tankie DPRK shills and talked about how 're-education camps are good and compassionate actually!' but they will fly off the handle if you say something like 'prisons should exist' or 'prostitution is bad actually.'
No. 2547594
>>2547588I think it's partly online radicalization and coomerism but it's partly because zoomer moids are so fucking lazy and coddled. All the weird 'gentle parenting' shit that genX and now millennials fell for kind of works on girls because girls naturally tend to be conscientious, responsible and people-pleasing, but moids brought up with 'gentle' parenting and no discipline just turn into the most lazy, entitled brats. Once they grow up and realize they are going to have to be adults they can't even begin to fathom all the work it would take them to stop being useless lazy pieces of shit so they whine about being lonely and needing waifu mommy bangmaid instead. Boomers may have been raised misogynistic but their parents were usually disciplinarian hardasses and actually made them work/threw them out of the house when they reached adulthood, so their idea of trad relationships involved actual hard work and money management to support a family. Zoomer moids skipped the whole 'how am I going to provide for a family' part and just endlessly cope that they 'totally would get a good job and become rich if only there was a woman to motivate me to work for her.'
It's going to be bad for zoomers to try to pair up with each other in long term relationships when the women are so leftist and the men are all obsessed with trad right wing propaganda, I think zoomer men and women have less in common with each other than the men and women in any prior living generation.
No. 2547605
>>2547603Okay, just think about what boys your age did in their edgelord phases. Boys know women and girls are offended by it. Boys also are somewhat misogynistic by nature. Boys when I was in school made racist edgy Nazi rape jokes all the time. Andrew Tate is just their new flavour.
Children are easily influenced and try to find identity in stuff. Which kids didn't have a phase? But most boys who fall for Tateshit apart from the typical edgelords are usually the nerdy losers who want to be seen as something, who feel othered from their peers so they turn to the stuff he teaches which makes them feel like they're worth something.
No. 2547634
>>2547605Honestly most of the boys I knew at that age didn't have edgelord phases. I can only think of like 2-3 moidlets I knew who tried to act edgy or offend girls, beyond occasionally pulling their hair because they had a crush or making some uncouth comment about their bodies. The worst 'edgelord' behavior I really saw for the most part was them calling other boys faggots or talking about drugs they had never even tried and had just heard of, and most of them had fairly normal and what I would now consider wholesome hobbies like capture the flag, soccer, chess, etc. Maybe it was just the kind of schools I went to? They sometimes pulled up inappropriate pictures or videos on the school computers but it was just little flash animations of dancing anime condoms or pretty tame 'funny' hentai like those ones where the women have comically large boobs. And almost all the boys I knew had grown out of all that stuff by the time they got to high school, most were pretty respectful of girls and had plenty of female friends at school. Even the boys I hated the most in middle school would harass girls by saying like 'what bra size are you? Let me guess' so I can't really picture them being into shit like Andrew Tate or Nick Fuentes. Now I keep hearing stories from younger zoomers and gen alpha about how horribly inappropriate and violent boys are at school and tbh I never witnessed anything like it when I was growing up.
>>2547627I would like to know too. Every zoomer moid haircut is the ugliest haircut imaginable, there are only like 3-4 of them and it's hard to imagine a haircut worse than the 3-4 they all have. There was that brief phase with e-boys having that floppy long bangs haircut from the 90s that was actually okay, what happened to that?
No. 2547637
>>2547634Because back then there wasn't much internet influence maybe? Nowadays porn and incelshit is trending so they more easily fall down the rabbit hole? Idk either.
>There was that brief phase with e-boys having that floppy long bangs haircut from the 90s that was actually okay, what happened to that?Maybe scared of looking faggy? I thought it was decently cute at best, just at least compared to everything else.
No. 2547639
>>2547637I mean we definitely had the internet but not really widespread social media or monetized youtube back then, so maybe that's why. It also seemed to me like a lot of boys back then were actually sincerely passionate about stuff like sports, playing instruments, competitive chess and stuff like that (even the nerds just seemed obsessed with DnD and Magic the Gathering) and actually spent most of their free time doing their hobbies, not sitting on the internet all the time. Giving kids smartphones and laptops was a huge mistake, it's like they can't even form normal healthy friendships with each other or develop actual hobbies they care about anymore. Pretty much every moidlet I knew in middle/high school had at least 1-2 hobbies he was really into and really cared about, even the ones that were also into gaming would only game after they had come back from doing their other hobbies and finished their homework.
>Maybe scared of looking faggy?Kek maybe but the broccoli haircuts and pedostaches look waaay faggier. The pedostache and mullet look was something I always associated with gay men who were young in the 70s/80s kek. I didn't mind the floppy medium length hair because it was at least better than some of the millennial moid haircuts like the half-shaved/undercut topknot or the ultrashort gelled up toddler hair.
No. 2548163
>>2547603ime with my brother it’s just that it’s there and available. they start to think about girls and then andrew tate stuff is getting recommended and honestly young teenagers just kind of believe whatever they’re first exposed to. especially if it’s emotional or something offered as a solution. i was the same with downing the tranny koolaid at that age until i was old enough to be able to challenge whatever beliefs i’d been indoctrinated into.
another thing i’ve noticed with my brother’s peers is they’re way too hypersexual, obviously teenage boys are often that but you can tell porn and hentai is bad for them ESPECIALLY now combined with consuming degrading rhetorics about women.
No. 2548169
>>2548163The internet was a mistake with porn. Even male peers back in my day in seventh grade were already exposed to it and would mimic porn actresses' moaning and even positions and the internet was budding. Now more porn is "professional" and
abusive kinks are mainstream and tossed around for laughs.
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Whatever the heck this is
No. 2548431
>>2548163AYRT thanks for the answer nonna. Did your parents notice/were they concerned about this or try to do something to stop it, or was it just something he got into before your family noticed? Maybe this just feels unfamiliar to me because when I was that age I didn't really believe whatever I was exposed to, largely because my parents were always interested in what I was exposing myself to, correcting me, interrogating my views and telling me to think critically and form my beliefs carefully. But I did have a lot of unsupervised access to the internet around that age and I was mostly just using it to find stuff like music, art tutorials, learning to draw in gimp, text RPG games, weird animal facts, poetry sharing websites. It's just so hard to imagine that kids are being drawn straight into Angry Men Talking On Youtube instead of all the stuff that's actually fun for kids, it seems like it would be soo unappealing. Is it peer pressure? Lack of hobbies? I had crushes on my peers back then but I never even thought about getting dating advice from adults, only my peers/friends. Caring what adults thought seemed embarrassing.
The hypersexuality of moids that age is also surprising. Yeah boys (and girls) were always kind of hypersexual around puberty, but it's next level now. Gen alpha kids are acting so disgustingly moidish when they still look like innocent little kids.
>>2548252Good point about the media landscape, it's weird that there's basically no semi-wholesome shows for kids/teens anymore, considering how much media they constantly consume you'd think there would be something between cocomelon and Euphoria because there's money in pandering to that demographic. I was actually just thinking that the whole 'strong don't need no man' female character thing is likely to backfire, both because it's alienating to boys who just end up being like 'ew girl media' and complaining that feminism ruined everything and also because a lot of these female characters are very cookie cutter and lacking uniqueness, since they're such obvious adult conceptions of what girls 'should' be looking up to. Like the stories in a lot of modern TV just aren't good anymore, the shows aren't really funny, it just seems very bland and soulless, either weird torture porn like GOT/Euphoria, nostalgia-bait and remakes of 90s/2000s media, or 349834th rehash of the same boring superhero franchise. In that light I can see why kids would prefer tiktok and youtube.
>>2548262Memes used to be funny
No. 2549524
>>2549483wait, when did body positivity and being anti-proana become more common among gen z? the other bit about making commentary videos isn't specific them either. in any case this is my first time hearing about her, but based off what I see on google it's because it's usually pretty rare to see a combo of body positivity, anorexia, and supposed happiness. and if she is popular, then she's definitely doing some damage to some of her fans and the optics around the subject.
>what does it affect youcows don't affect any of us either but we still swallow their gross milk.
No. 2549549
>>2549524>cows don't affect any of us either but we still swallow their gross milk.Yes but we don't get butthurt and personally
triggered over what they do, we just laugh.
>when did body positivityA long time? Look at all the obeasts talking about how exercising is fatphobic on tiktok for years
No. 2550221
>>2549549you bitches get absolutely
triggered at any zoomer mention or use of zoomer slang tho
No. 2550840
>>2549483>>2549549i think its sort of like a new mix of cow and cancel "culture" where you can't make fun of hypocritical and lying retards so you just have to stick to being morally superior and going "ermmm this is actually…
problematic af??" so they can only make fun of people who did something they deem wrong and harmful, like how every zoomer on twitter hates anyone more relevant than them and only talks shit publicly when that person is being called out
>all the obeasts talking about how exercising is fatphobic on tiktok for yearson retrospective, HAES was fucking insane and i cant believe anyone fell for it
related to that the current zoomer body positivity, because i believe HAES is more of a millenial thing, its still annoying to me because it just seems fake and weird i cant describe
obese people can just claim they're trying really hard and everyone has to cheer even when they eat shitty fast food and go
>ermmm but 100 chicken nuggies its like…protein cuz its chickenbut see a skinny woman post her diet and everyone calls her anorexic, and would add more food, but they would never tell the fat people recording themselves eating like shit to eat any less or any better
No. 2551030
>>2550628I still have cute blousy Forever 21 tops from 10+ years ago that haven't fallen apart. I always washed them on gentle or handwashed them, but both are cotton and not cheap polyester or stretchy crap. I have another with lace that is a blend, and the biggest issue is that it's white and discoloring with age.
It's sad that F21 went downhill, because even in the late 00s/10s they had a bad reputation… but you
could find decent stuff there. I can't remember the last time I went there after 2014 though.
No. 2551335
>>2551247>gen xers and boomers use punctuation because they think they're sending a letter so it has to be grammatically correct. I don't think it's that deep. they were simply conditioned to approach writing this way in school. they had teachers who red pen graded their essays and lost major points for grammatical errors. I write for my job and boomers are very particular and grammarnazis, and it's clear it comes from being harshly indoctrinated in "proper grammar" in grade school and college.
millennials were not graded so harshly on grammar, we were taught to focus on the substance of essays. you wouldn't lose major points for missing punctuation.
and zoomers I don't think are graded on grammar at all anymore. they don't even read a lot of formal texts, so don't come across uncommon punctuation (like emdash), etc
No. 2551525
>>2550840The original HAES was fine and a good idea, it was an approach developed by obesity researchers who saw that conventional interventions were not helping patients lose weight so they wanted to focus on things that would improve health markers rather than the weight on the scale itself (which in studies actually helped patients lose more weight compared to conventional interventions too). It was basically like, 'even if you eat too much, focus on eating healthy food' or 'even if you're fat and find exercise hard, do some exercise and focus on getting stronger and fitter rather than giving up because you're not losing much weight' and it was a good idea because it made healthy eating and exercise feel more accessible/less depressing to fat people. The problem is that it was co-opted by FA retards who took it to mean 'everyone is equally healthy at every size' and started screeching at anyone who tried to get healthier. I still remember this tumblr meme that went around about how fat people who say 'I'd like a smaller piece of cake' at a birthday party are class traitors to other fat people kek.
>>2551335>millennials were not graded so harshly on grammar, we were taught to focus on the substance of essays. you wouldn't lose major points for missing punctuation.I'm a millennial and I absolutely would have lost major points for missing punctuation in school. But millennials just got used to typing differently in casual situations than they did in formal situations/on homework. I was always told by older people 'omg if you don't capitalize/punctuate and use textspeak online, then you will forget how to use it in an essay!' but I never did and was able to code-switch easily.
No. 2551742
>>25516801. This ain't just zoomers. Little old ladies are known for hoarding restaurant napkins in their car
2. This is a weird thing to post about
No. 2551790
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Never have a group of young people been so fixated on what people 5-10 years older than them are doing.
No. 2551791
>>2551742My bad that I
triggered you, zoomer.
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This whole thread is just zoomers and millennials coming together to get triggered at nothing kek
No. 2551823
>>2551795I think one of the weirdest things about this is Zoomers saying 'ok boomer' to millennials/older zoomers when 'ok boomer' used to be a millennial phrase actually directed at boomers.
>>2551805Millennials didn't make 'lighthearted jabs' at GenX though, millennials actually didn't care about anyone younger than their parents' gen much at all. That's what makes it strange. Like I'm not personally offended by zoomers making jokes about millennials but when I was their age we saw people 5-10 years older than us as our peers, as basically the same type of person as us, not some group we were constantly observing to make fun of. It's even funnier because a lot of the things zoomers do were taken directly from millennials, but they are always looking for differences to nitpick when they're wearing the same clothes, using the same jokes and lingo, listening to the same music that we were at their age.
No. 2551829
>>2551794I don’t hate gen X’ers but they can do some
very cringe things quite often. Why do they all have tattoos of bands and celebrities they like?
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This is why we should just go by pluto placements which are objective instead of subjective definitions of zoomers vs whatever.
No. 2551866
>>2551862That's what
they want you to think. The truth is, you're from the future, kid.
That's your sun placement. When someone says "I'm a leo" they're talking about their sun placement. It's usually the only placement people know. In astrology there's a placement for every luminary / planet. Pluto takes a looong time to change placements.
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I feel like this should be mandatory reading before posting. Also that the whole gen thing was founded by marketing firms to figure out how to target certain ages groups based on common cultural experiences rather than hard stuff. It's vague.
No. 2551905
>>2551902It's always been that way, generational labels always cover at least roughly 15 years. Of course they are bullshit to some degree, it's just a catchall term meant to describe all people born in a certain time period.
>>2551903Because that's not true and you're baiting. Millennial is 1981-1996, and zoomers are 1996-2012.
No. 2551911
>>2551908You asked a question that contained an obviously false premise (millennial is 81-92) that had already been contradicted a dozen or more times directly above your post, including this handy graph
>>2551869 that was posted only 30 minutes prior to your post. If you weren't baiting, you should at least stop with the spoonfeeding requests and read the 5-10 posts above your own.
No. 2551917
>>2551911Anon I’ll explain this to you again in a way you’ll hopefully understand but my question wasn’t in response to the graph the other
nonnie shared with us, I was asking my own question based off the years that I’d always personally been informed during my own education, career, and life that were the generational years for millennials and zoomers. I was lurking on this conversation before I decided to join, and I decided to ask anons their personal opinions
>Does anyone else find it weirdAsking my fellow LC users what they personally think about the topic we’re discussing isn’t really the same as a spoonfeeding request. Spoonfeeding is when you go into a thread and ask for anons to re-post or comment previous milk or information about the topic of discussion in the thread. This is not what was happening when I asked the other anons if any of them thought it was weird that the years between millennial and zoomers were so dramatically different. I am glad we had this discussion though! Thank you for telling my what the officially stated correct years are, because during my school years and throughout conversations I had with my peers and coworkers over the decades, it seems like the years just change every single time kek! It looks like they’ve decided on a specific time period now
No. 2551925
>>2551917Where were you personally informed that the millennial generation ended in 1992? Google it and see if anywhere says that. I thought it was bait because no one says that's when the millennial generation ends, but if that's what people irl have been telling you, the people you have been talking to are retarded. Sorry if I wrongly thought you were baiting after the large number of obviously baity comments right above your post.
It sounded like bait because of course no one would find it weird that 'millennial is 1981-1992' since… it isn't, and everyone knows it isn't. So no one will say 'yes, I personally find it weird that the millennial generation is short compared to zoomers' since it isn't.
>It looks like they’ve decided on a specific time period nowNot really, some researchers will say zoomers start in 96 while others will say zoomers start in 98, but all definitions for zoomer start after 95. The zoomer generation is supposed to be anyone who was too young to have memories of the turn of the millennium, already explained in this post above yours
>>2551895, which some people will agree is anyone who was under 5 at that time, others will say it was anyone who was under 4, etc.
No. 2552017
>>2551930>>2551925Strauss and Howe claimed (the people who coined the terms and mechanics) the "homeland" generation (zoomers) would actually start at around 2004ish. People just collectively decided it's around 1997 because that would make the cutoff pre and post wide adoption of internet world.
According to them, what we see as zoomer is just late millennial, no different than how there was the block of late boomers who tried to differentiate and call themselves generation Jones.
Stop trying to feel old.
No. 2552037
>>2552027It being widely accepted isn't really useful if it's not true. The people who we got the terminology, mechanics and predictions from are the ones who matter. And Howe (the surviving of the two) declared he stills stand by their predictions around covid time.
Even the Whitehouse has adopted this terminology.
>>https://www.forbes.com/sites/neilhowe/2014/10/27/introducing-the-homeland-generation-part-1-of-2/This isn't "Grand plans". It's what the people actually studying and planning for this use.
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>>2552037Even your own link says that generational boundaries are not fixed by academics (or pop-sociologists authors like Howe and Strauss kek) but chosen by 'where history decides' to draw the line. He states that generations are often 18-24 years, which would fit pretty closely with the 1981-1997 boundary most modern academics draw around the Millennial generation, and as for his reason for choosing 2005, which he said "remains tentative," he gave the reason of 'will recall nothing before Barack Obama’s presidency' except that there's already a very good reason given for why the boundary has been drawn where it HAS been drawn, by almost all actual academics, and they seem to have decided that 'recalling much of Obama's presidency' was not all that important, the turn of the century and modern technology were.
The article was published in 2014, before 'zoomers' took off, so it makes sense that back in 2014 he was polling the internet for names and taking 'guesses' at 'tentative' dates where the next boundary would be drawn, but society (and history) have spoken, as he said they would. He is not the arbiter of reality, reality is the arbiter of reality. It also isn't like Neil Howe, who is NOT an academic despite your claims but a popular author, has named all the other generations, so it makes no sense to take his internet poll from the early 2010s more seriously than what people actually call things.
No. 2552830
>>2552324You have to completely brain rotted if you don't have any memories from 3-4 and after. Hell I remember pets my parents had when I was a toddler that died before I was 4, I remember being in kindergarten, siblings being born before 5, etc. And I don't even think I'm a memory wizz or anything.
It's completely believable for someone to remember what happened from the ages of 7-9 yrs old. In fact if someone doesn't have any memories at those ages I'd be more worried
No. 2552940
>>2552830I have memories from ages 2-4 but most studies show that early memories start at around 4-5 years old and are extremely spotty before then (people might just have a handful of experiential memories prior to that age). You can look it up if you don't believe me.
>It's completely believable for someone to remember what happened from the ages of 7-9 yrs old.Yes, but most kids 6-8 years of age don't have enough world knowledge and context to understand what a recession is or means, which is what I said in my post. Knowledge of stuff like the stock market usually starts closer to the ages of 8-10, not 3-8. You might remember your mom getting fired and being stressed out, but you wouldn't have enough context to understand how this fits into the wider economy, how normal it is, etc. until you're at the age where you start reading/watching the news and being informed more about economics. So saying 'everyone born before 2004 would have a solid memory of life before the 2007 financial crash' is fairly insane since they would be 2-3 years old at that time, and definitely not have strong memories of 'the economy' prior to that. Even a child that was 7yo at the time of the recession would likely not have strong memories of 'the pre-crash economy.' Most 7 year olds don't have much of an understanding of what 'the economy' or 'the stock market' even is. I only started learning how the stock market works and what mortgages were around 5th grade so when I was 10, and I was a precocious child. At 6-7 I wouldn't have been able to tell you what a 'normal' unemployment rate was.
No. 2552965
>>2552940Not stock market specifically but I'm sure they remember things that made sense once they found out there was a recession. Parents got laid off? Maybe had to switch housing for a while? Maybe Christmas and birthdays were dollar general toys instead of video games and name brand Barbies and baby alives? Maybe your weekly pizza deliveries were quickly turned to hamburger helper?
I'm lucky my dad was blue collar so his job was pretty recession proof in 08 though, maybe other gen z can put their input?
No. 2552968
>>2552950I mean I'm not saying I became an expert on it, but I learned some basics about what the stock market is, how investment works, etc. around that age. I had some school projects in 6th grade where we had to 'play' the stock market by looking at the finance section of the newspaper, researching a couple companies and deciding to 'invest' fake money in them and then check for the next few days if the company's stocks went up or down kek. I also learned what a mortgage vs renting was around that age at the most basic level. But even then if someone told me 'well there was a sub-prime lending crisis which caused a housing bubble to pop which led to bank bailouts' I would have not understood what that meant at all.
I know other anons probably mean more 'run of the mill' stuff like layoffs or whatever but my friends' parents frequently got laid off pre-2007 too, I grew up assuming this was normal (it is). You don't have much of a context for what is 'normal' for the economy when you are 7.
>>2552965The recession hit at the end of high school for me but I experienced things like me/my friends' parents getting laid off, having to move houses, etc. all throughout my childhood. No one I know was significantly personally affected by the recession other than a couple people saying their parents lost significant savings/retirement income. If I was a 16-17 year old when it happened and didn't notice much of a change in society, I find it hard to believe a 6-7 year old would have noticed much of a change on average. It's not like there was suddenly 60% unemployment in 2007 - the recession we've been in for the last few years is actually worse than the one in 2007 but if you asked current gen alpha 8 year olds when the 'recession' hit and what things were like 'before' and after they probably couldn't tell you, except in reference to COVID shutdowns.
No. 2552974
>>2552968That's true, I remember my older siblings pre recession were able to get jobs within a week or so of applying, some family members could literally walk into any place that claimed to be hiring and get a job. And with that money they were also able to afford an apartment (given it wasn't the nicest apartments but they were there) all while still affording bar trips, fast food, video games, college, etc
Nowadays working at Kmart or Little Caesars while affording some crappy apartment with a roommate is basically a fever dream to most. And that's if you don't get laid off left and right or even find a job after doom applying
No. 2553028
>>255297907 still makes sense as that's when recession has been starting, it doesn't just happen overnight. I was referring more to early 2000s. The issue is that absolutely zero labor laws have been passed since the recession besides raising the min wage by 2 bucks in 09, so even with record profits, a lot of places refuse to fully staff, schedule their employees full time, etc
As with housing - a lot of apartments think it's more profitable to have 5 out of 20 units rented out for 3k a month, over renting out all 20 units for 700-900 a month. I've also heard they get tax benefits for vacant properties but that's also just rumors. Basically the recession showed people how they can still benefit while fucking us over as badly as possible and no one is doing a damn thing about it besides just pretending like the working class is the problem
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Watching zoomers drag each other over things like this is so fucking funny
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>>2552979I can't help but feel like the comparison of gen-z job market difficulties to great recession era times is hyperbolic.
It's never easy for young people to get a job, and tbh most of the shit I hear baby zoomies complaining about is perfectly normal even during 'good' economic times.
I know it's common (and ofc partially) correct to say things like the stock market, official unemployment numbers, GDP growth, etc are disconnected from reality but if they think it's bad when the numbers are far better than in 2009-2010 then they really ought to see what the reality is like when they're at those levels.
>>2553457I would love to see research done on this. I feel like gen-z is easily the most conformist generation in modern history despite all media pointing to the opposite.
No. 2553847
>>2553810Tbh I think cancel culture bullshit is just a tiny part of it
I moreso mean their tastes, what they do all day and what/how they think
No. 2553871
>>2553673Responding again to ask this question. Why
do zoomers like to act nostalgic for the early 2000s when they were either small children or not born yet? Do they see millennials being nostalgic about their teenage/young adulthood and get jealous? Why are they fixated with this time period that they only contributed to by being born? Now I'm wondering how it would go down if we somehow transported teenage/young adult zoomers back in time to socialize with teenage/young adult millennials in this "era". I wonder how that interaction would play out.
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>>2554055>why aren't they wearing business casual, owl jewelry, artificially tanned skin and foundation on the lips? Because those aren’t the only millennial trends? lul The kids crave to be fun and free
No. 2554157
>>2554144grunge and older brother core may be similar, but don't be obtuse, just searched "tweecore" and that shit isn't what hipsters used to dress. millennials favorite hobby is rewriting history, you know exactly how hipsters used to dress and it wasn't like that. forgot about stomp clap hey?
>>2554147i'd argue they didn't completely try to imitate emo/scene like it was in the 00s, because most zoomers are allergic to skinny jeans and low rise shorts/skirts, an emo/scene staple of that era. even the hair is different, haven't seen that hairstyle in years
>>2554138betas wanting to go through the feral phase of alphies kek
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>>2554055>foundation on the lipsMfw I did this in 2013 because Aomine from Kurobasu was my fav character
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>>2556170>Writing songs about drinking, road tripping, smoking, living in trailers/dingy apartments,high speed chases, etc is appealing to pedo fantasies Do moids frequently fantasize about white trash girls who work at the diner, smoke a pack a day and buy gas station wine? Lana del rey may appeal to the 20s-30s low income girl fantasy but definitely not pedo stuff until way later on after millennials lost interest
No. 2556216
>>2556163zoomers learned from their gen x parents who were doing actual pedo shit
the whole college aged bf while you're in HS was a X thing
No. 2557154
>>2556651it’s just different forms in different generations. the standards right now are hebephilic so i’m not surprised coquette is trendy right now. on the other hand even like a decade ago some loser band scrote fucking 16-year-old groupies would have no one batting an eye. in fact they’d tell you it’s just the subculture. so i think pedophilic shit is less normalised yet a more pervasive standard, especially when it comes to aesthetic trends. you have more girls trying to look like anime girls today too. before these 16-year-olds wanted to be seen as cool adults by groomers, and didn’t realise their abuse until it’s happened - now they cry over turning 18 and become autopedophilic because they recognize and fetishize being seen as a child. i’d say both generations “appealed to pedo fantasies” in different ways.
honestly does anyone have statistics for rates of CSA? because i can’t help but feel like today’s younger generation has more sexual trauma. just going on the tiktok thread on here gives me that feeling too, it’s strange
No. 2557246
>>2557154>i can’t help but feel like today’s younger generation has more sexual trauma. Oh fuck off, if zoomers can be guaranteed to be one thing, it's confidently being loud and wrong. You all barely touch each other and scream about 1-2 year age gaps, meanwhile millennials where being aggressively catcalled, kidnapped, raped, groomed, molested, grew up with "jailbait" in common lexicon, articles in men's magazines about how Disney channel stars are too sexy on purpose, turning 18 countdowns being common mass media discourse for teen stars. And I know it was even worse for xers and boomers. I'm not so wrapped up in self victimhood that I can't look at history critically, or look at history and think and use my brain at all whatsoever.
No. 2557418
>>2557359Nayrt but it’s interesting how your examples include online only. I would say grooming in real life was far more prevalent and far less regulated, rape was more common and even less likely to be convicted than it is now, kids went out on their own at younger and younger ages and were playing out on the street all evening. It was a lot more likely you’d be told to cover up because your creepy gross uncle was coming over.
Sure it’s not a competition but there’s no way in hell zoomers have “more sexual trauma”, it’s just kind of trendy to be a gross stinky fucking deviant these days. How do you think y2k stacies and chads woild react to some furry yiffer convention or ABDL polyamorous stinky Redditors? They’d tear them limb from limb. Most people are retards who are happy to debase themselves for coolness points. Our boomer and gen x parents were 1000x cooler, better travelled and more fun than the average zoomer who thinks they’re cool for being “aromantic and autistic” instead of just going to a punk show. Zoomers suck. It’s not their fault exactly but they do….most of them think they’re better than their parents but if they went to high school with them they’d be getting swirlies all day.
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>>2557359I'm not gonna argue which generation has it worse and I don't really have an opinion on that/don't even know if either generation has it worse, but at least in wealthier countries it was normal to have computers in households for millennials. Everyone I knew had a household computer and most had dial-up internet starting at around age 6-8 years old. The internet was super unregulated back then and notions of internet safety were nonexistent, so I and my friends at age 9-10 years old ended up in tons of 'teen' and 'kids' chatrooms that were full of actual pedo groomers, my first experiences of adult moids trying to chat with me and have 'cyber sex' pretending to be children my age were at 9-10 years old (although thankfully I was smart enough to identify that was happening and close the chats, but there was no mechanism to report them back then, they could just keep changing usernames and doing it to other kids). I had adult moids on online text RPG games trying to be my 'boyfriend' when I was 10-11 years old, again with no even reporting mechanism in these games that would make them get banned for doing it. Kids were posting photos of themselves with metadata and their home addresses and shit on public websites, I remember personally doxing several people as a preteen because they gave so much info and adults hadn't caught up to how easy it was to dox and stalk people yet so kids were not made aware of stranger danger on the internet all that much until I'd hit my teens. Older millennials would have already been in their teens at that time, but mid-to-young millennials in countries like the US and Western Europe definitely did deal with all this unregulated internet and online grooming.
There also wasn't AI porn or as much porn on the internet but the porn that was there was in pop-ups that you couldn't avoid as a child. I would go to child safe websites but get popup ads of graphic porn videos as a 9-10 year old, which definitely doesn't happen anymore and now most people have adblockers anyway. You have to actually seek out graphic porn to find it, whereas millennials had it literally shoved in our faces in strings of 20 popups that would open more when you closed one. So yeah they are slightly different issues but both generations grew up with grooming and internet safety issues. I think it's unproductive to talk about which generation was groomed 'more' than the others and instead knowing what we know we should be trying to find solutions for the ongoing grooming and sexualization of girls/women on the internet, which has been a perpetual problem ever since the internet first went mainstream.
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>zoomer moids not knowing anything about certain games because they only played remakes and get their info second hand from other retards
>Mfw being able to embarrass them in front of other moids for their lack of knowledge and calling them “fake gamer guys”
Millennial moids were relentless when it came to female gamers( not that its changed that much but playing video games isn’t seen as male exclusive anymore), so I finally have the satisfaction of returning the fire.
No. 2557719
>>2557457The difference (at least where/when I was growing up) is that you generally had one computer per household because they were big/expensive. You had to go into the living room or your dad's office to go online and chat with pedos and groomers, and that added a slight chance that your parents or older siblings could find out what was happening and could intervene.
This is what happened to me. My dad saw that I'd been chatting with an adult moid on MSN and cut down the internet Bob Chandler style. Now everyone has personal devices with internet capability where they can be engaging in dangerous behavior wherever there's wifi or data.
No. 2557783
>>2557719For me and many of my friends, the reality is that our parents would be at work when we got home, we'd have several hours in the house by ourselves, then parents got back from work and were cooking dinner/relaxing while we did homework on the 'family' computer (I had full use of the computer most of the time because my dad had a work-issued PC and then a work laptop, plus school required us to do a lot of our assignments on the computer so I basically got full time access for homework), and then parents would be showering, watching TV to unwind before bed, etc. Sure they popped in every once in a while but most kids got really good at closing all their tabs and windows the second they heard their parents' footsteps, everyone I knew did tons of shit on their family computers their parents didn't know about.
One solution to 'everyone having their own personal device' is just to not allow your kids to have personal devices, but the issue of kids using shared devices or family PCs in secret and just closing tabs/having smokescreen windows for when their parents walk by would still be an issue. Most parents of preteens/teens don't have time to supervise them full time and look over their shoulder 24/7 when they have other shit to do. So even if you don't let your kids have personal devices a lot of the same problems will remain.
No. 2558067
>>2557431I don’t even know why my comment caused a fight because I wasn’t even referring to grooming… By CSA I honestly meant sexual abuse in the family as a child. I wasn’t even talking teens tbh (because they’ve already become autopedophilic by then) all I did is wonder from all the popular fucked up fetishises even amongst minors, if zoomer girls were more abused by men in the family. I didn’t even state it as fact, it was a question?? I don’t really know why it’s a competition and I literally said in my reply that hebephilic behaviours were acceptable and normalized…. i agreed so why are we arguing that point kek. it’s like no one read it?
I don’t know if it’s true or not, just that in my personal experience at like 13-16 on the internet (so like 7-4 years ago) every girl I knew was into DDLG. Every. Unless she was a lesbian
I personally think alphas have got it worse for online grooming and most of them have interacted with inappropriate adults. On Discord or Roblox. It’s a cesspool rabbithole and I’m terrified for when they grow up and some dark shit comes out. Problem with today is people are so radical in either direction. So they’re not just coming across run of the mill cornerstreet pedos online but people with a whoole pedophilic ideology and social structure to groom them and cultlike mentality. And it’s pervasive. Think of Remilia and the com/764. There are rabbitholes that link even the most recent young shooters to the outskirts of these circles (Natalie Rupnow, Solomon Henderson). I know girls who got caught up in these a couple years ago but what was a marvel to us back then is just a common sight for (z)alphas now. Pornrot doesn’t help and there is a sub-genre of young adult zoomer men that are genuinely evil and unwell. The internet allows fringe people to survive for better or for worse and they can easily cultivate the worst parts of themselves with others.
But yeah of course online grooming is different from IRL grooming. And it wasn’t part of my point with being linked to autopedophilia (which I associate with young CSA not teenage grooming)
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>>2557246The 80s-early 2000s was the time period where serial killers were at their most active. Makes since that millenials got raped more often, considering they grew up in a time where children actually fell for the "hey kids, you want some candy?" bullshit kek. Why is getting murked and raped by serial killers even a competition? Being world class
victims isn't a trophy any generation should be proud of.
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>>2558067NTA but if you were asking about more sexual abuse in the family, I kind of doubt it. From my (fairly cursory) understanding, CSA rates perpetrated by family members or family friends tend to remain fairly stable, and if anything I think there has been increased awareness about keeping your children away from non-relative men over the last few decades (of course some parents will always be retards or wrongly trust male relatives).
I can only speak about what I have seen, but a lot of the women/girls I saw talking about ddlg started doing it suddenly out of nowhere when 'sugar babying' became trendy/normalized online. These did not appear to be girls who ever previously talked about incest or had strange sexual behaviours, they were just women who followed some weird online trends thinking they could just be 'friends' and go on 'platonic dates' with old rich 'daddies' for pay. I think for a lot of these young women and girls it was more of a fantasy than a trauma response or anything. I do agree the roblox grooming happening to gen alpha seems on another level though, although it remains to be seen how many people it ends up actually affecting. Almost everyone I knew as a millennial child had people trying to groom and contact them on the internet, but most of us ended up safe in the end, which I hope will happen with most gen alphas too. The pornrot is severely concerning though and a kind of 'new' factor that wasn't affecting older generations nearly as much.
No. 2558308
>>2558187I guess in my case I wondered about the actual fetishistic sexual side of it. Because these girls liked the idea of getting raped by an older man, choked and treated brutally, being treated in an infantile manner. This is like 15-year-old girls. I don’t think I heard any of them talk about sugaring (didn’t even know about it back then).
When you see the fetishes some zoomers post about like it does make me wonder. I mentioned the tiktok thread because the piss fetish girl was the discussion that got me thinking.
No. 2558666
>>2558290It's possible, I'm early 30s. Actually tabs may not have been a thing back then but you would just open multiple windows and toggle between them. My dad had a computer-based job that required constant travel, so a work laptop was an absolute necessity, although I think it likely was an extravagant expense back then (he didn't own it, the company did though). My family was poor, but most of the other people I knew around that age were wealthier than me so they had multiple PCs at home, since in the school systems I was in typed homework was required pretty early on I remember (became standard starting in around 5th grade iirc) so having a computer the kid could use for 2-5 hours a day was a necessity to pass school. My first memory of teachers telling us to use the internet for something school related was first grade, but I didn't have internet back then, so they said it was optional. It really accelerated from there though, they had us doing typing classes in 3rd-4th grade and it was standard to have home internet by the time I was in 5th grade. I remember going to my friends' houses in 4th-5th grade and even my poorest FOB immigrant friend who lived in some other family's dingy basement had a PC and dial-up which was set up in her own private room (actually a large closet or storage space) so she could do homework without her younger siblings disrupting her. I didn't have a private room but the computer was set up in my parents' bedroom, which they didn't use except to sleep, so I had privacy most of the time unless they meandered over from some other part of the apartment to see what I was doing. There was plenty of time to close any windows I didn't want them to see whenever I heard their footsteps kek even if I always left the door open. I think it's kind of overstated how much oversight millennials' parents had over their internet habits and how much that protected us compared to zoomers. The main thing was we didn't have as much social media where we put our full names, faces, school names and city all over the public internet, but people were getting up to all sorts of dangerous and ill-advised shit anyway and pedos were trying to groom kids left and right with pretty much no safeguards. I remember there were so many pedos who kept getting outed on neopets of all places. So in a lot of ways millennial and zoomer experiences on the internet probably have strong parallels.
>>2558308If 15 year old girls have fetishes like that then yes almost certainly they have some kind of CSA trauma. I never talked to any women/girls with genuine dd/lg fetishes personally, it was just a thing they'd talk about to be cheeky or seem cool. Isn't it quite unusual for girls/women to have fetishes in general?
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>>2558670I was living way under the poverty line but you couldn't pass school if you didn't have a computer. PCs were not even that expensive back then if you got some standard shitty one, it's not like all the Apple shit people get today, and there weren't cell phones and shit like that to pay for. My family didn't have TV back then because it was too expensive but we did have a computer and internet. Every child had at least one computer in my school. This is like saying that having a phone in 2025 would be because of your 'socioeconomic bubble.' Computers became necessary for basic survival in the 90s at least in many wealthier countries, regardless of class. I'm assuming people whose families couldn't afford a computer at all would have to go to the library or something, but like I said, my FOB immigrant friend at school who lived in a single room basement of another family's house and slept on the floor with her siblings and parents in one room still had her own computer for school.
On the other hand my extended family in my home country didn't get a home computer until I was around 20, so it probably depends on the country.
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I’d venture to say the zoomer attitude towards physical appearance aging when most of us haven’t even reached 30 yet is pretty absurd kek
No. 2566038
>>2565873It’s hard to ever be happy with how you look when you are told every day that you get a little more ugly and worthless with each passing year.
So many of my peers don’t realize that and instead act smug about being younger than someone else and shaming them for doing something inconsequential ‘at their big age’ while crashing out privately about turning 26 kek. What’s frustrating is they don’t even see how those two things feed into each other.
No. 2566082
>>2565873Theyre getting hit hard with the skincare shilling. They're anxious about aging because every commercial is about how awful wrinkles are and what you need to buy to stop them.
>>2566028Seriously health >>> skin stuff. I joined a yoga gym in an area of mostly old people and the women look incredible, they look older but they look really good. I assume theyre doing more for their health in general but the main reason I keep going is just how good the women going there seem to age.
No. 2566387
>>2565873I hate how zoomers are so fucking retarded about aging. Because I don't look like a raisin in my early 30's and have maintained my interests since being a young adult, I get told dumb shit like "go do your taxes" or "this milf is older than Google". They refuse to believe that we don't in fact look like senior citizens once out of our 20's. Encountering zoomers in the wild makes me wanna neck myself.
Anime brain rot. Youth is fleeting; basing entire identities on being young is going to skyrocket suicide rates.
No. 2566573
>>2566038I just found out yesterday some zoomer acquaintance who I've known for over a year thought me and my bf and several of my other same-age friends she met through us were her age even though we're ~10 years older than her, it seriously confuses me how their generation is so paranoid about aging while also not even being able to notice signs of aging in the people around them and seemingly having no idea how it's normal to look (or act) in your thirties. I'm not saying that specific woman is paranoid about aging but this has happened so many times now to me or other people my age I know where younger people just assume we're their age for no clear reason that I truly think zoomers as a group are faceblind to tells of aging. I also agree with
>>2566028 that healthy lifestyle is more important than anything else, and zoomers have been living increasingly unhealthy lifestyles, but somehow instead of fixing that they just buy more weird products to 'stop wrinkles' or get fillers.
>>2566387They're in for a rude awakening if they think all your interests and lifestyle magically change the second you turn thirty, like you won't get a million dollars dumped in your lap on your 30th birthday to buy a house with and suddenly have a stork deliver you several children. When I see childless, single 28 year olds telling 31 year olds 'shouldn't you be driving your kids to soccer practice?' I wonder if they skipped first grade math or are just completely deluded. You won't have soccer-playing-aged kids 3 years from now either, miss zoomzoom.
No. 2566738
>>2566387>>2566573These types of zoomers suffer from severe internet brainrot; everyone around them are nothing but npcs, so the moment you hit 30 your brain will recalibrate and you will get a new personality with new "age appropriate" interests. They can't comprehend that others have their own interests, goals and lives that shaped their personalities and needs.
That said, I definitely encountered younger millenials in my days that had the same attitude towards anyone older than them, even though I see a lot more with zoomers it's not like it's a new mindset. Once they got closer to 30 and they realized they still looked as much forward to the next Animal Crossing as always, that they still liked Disney and/or alt fashion, they either accepted themselves more or they dropped most of the things they liked because of the shame and pressure to conform they put on themselves. I think we will see a lot of zoomers tiktok about having this type of crisis in a couple of years.
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>>2566387Seeing “Milf” being used for women in their 30s is so awful kek. Even more retarded when I see millennial and zoomer women say they’re in their “MILF era” because they’re nearing 30 like please shut the fuck up. Like first of all, most of you aren’t even mothers which is what the literal porn category is about and second of all, 30 isn’t old.
No. 2567889
>>2566387they just want to be contrarian. every millennial that says they look young gets roasted by them.
but if you own it and say I'm old as hell, decrepit, one foot in the grave and need to hang it up at 30, they disagree lol.
I'm always calling them kids, I'm an old biddy, etc. and they want me to feel young and 30 isn't old kek