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No. 492789

The term "kusoge" (or "shit game") refers to video games of poor quality. In this thread, post about kusoge you've played, give anti-recommendations, or just post one of the many, many examples of cringe being churned out on itch.io and similar sites. Visual novels, RPG Maker games, mobage, etc. are welcome. As long as it's a shitty game, feel free to post about it here.

If you want to discuss games more generally, please use the following threads:
>Visual Novel Thread: >>>/m/191784
>Mobage Thread: >>>/m/186848
>Otome Game General: >>>/m/473144
>Video Game General: >>>/m/441672
>NSFW Game General: >>>/m/128239

No. 492791

Finally, the correct thread to post all my favorite games!

No. 492799

god bless u nonnie for this thread! although i wished you put in general indie games to discuss too id love to suggest some free fanmade games to nonnies

No. 492808

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Finally, a thread for me. I like playing Boyfriend to Death clones and this one's whole thing is that (you) are a murderstacy this time and kidnap guys to torture. There's one interesting route where you kidnap a sheltered cute boy who grew up in a cult and then there's picrel, the obese ugly uno reverse card route that pissed me off because he overpowers the MC and puts her in the victim position. So we don't even get to kill him in a game advertised as being a reverse murder sim. On a side-note, I hate how BTD clones/western yandereslop never gets finished and are always stuck as demos.

No. 492810

>>492808
Why do edgelady fatfuckers always fantasize about fat male on female violence? Just like Fanny.

No. 492811

>>492808
i wish the art in these things wasn't so hideous

No. 492812

>>492810
maledom bdsm brainrot

No. 492816

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>>492808
>I like playing Boyfriend to Death clones
Have you played Dead Wishes? It's pretty cringe, but in a kind of funny way. There's a route where one of the guys throws the player character in a dumpster and makes her eat her own severed leg. One of the most bizarre experiences I've had in an "otome" game.
>BTD clones/western yandereslop never gets finished and are always stuck as demos
This goes for a lot of western VNs, and I'll never understand why they insist on making at least one of the guys obese. Gatobob has been making Strade progressively fatter, too. I guess it's so we'll feel safe knowing a heart attack might take him out eventually kek.

No. 492817

>>492789
the gray haired guy on threadpic reminds me so fucking much of fanny's lynn

No. 492821

>>492808
>western yandereslop never gets finished and are always stuck as demos
feeling personally attacked rn kek
There's no money in it. You release a demo, get your asspats, and move on.

No. 492828

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I want to bring up Lurking For Love. Jacob looks like if you asked ai to generate a male pedo character

No. 492838

>>492828
Temu Lawrence from btd kek

No. 492841

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I'd like to present you nonas with this fake-deep troonslop I found recently. I'm not going to play it, but the itch.io description gives me a pretty good idea of what it's going to be:
>a bunch of tgirls get a trip on the world famous transcontinental express.
>ive been thinking about trains and pervert girls for ages and something possessed me and i manifested this story into existence. it is my best work yet. my only regret is that there is no plushie fucking.
>weird gay sex, utter confusion, heart wrenching panic and life altering trauma.
>please enjoy it.

No. 492845

>>492841
They always think they're so deep writing about hormonally challenged men having weird sex don't they

No. 492849

>>492821
nonnie are you a game dev?

No. 492858

>>492808
which one is this guy from? eww

No. 492859

>>492821
I would love to play your demo if there's no gendieshit but I understand that linking here is super risky especially with what happened with the dev for >>492828

No. 492864

>>492859
Context?

No. 492873

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>>492841
Oh I've encountered this troons stuff before. The itch io/indie visual novel scene is littered with this fakedeep troonshit. I can only recall finding like 1 or 2 GL vns written by real women on itch.

No. 492875

>>492849
A hobbyist. Wouldn't call myself a dev at all. I have released three games, all for free and all as demos with the code freely usable for other projects. They were just stuff I put together in my spare time and decided to share.
>>492859
Don't know context for this but yeah kek I know better than to link on LC. I love my fellow nonas but I'm not a fan of the retards who lurk here just to harass women.

No. 492879

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>>492864
The creator of Lurking for Love is a TIF but was still caught doing wrongthink by liking Twitter posts and was ran off Tumblr by the yandere/BTD adjacent community. Now her game is basically fucking blacklisted in the community kek. https://www.tumblr.com/pastelbreakgore/719942894475182080/carnivorekitty-warning-post?source=share

No. 492880

>>492875
nta You can send hash coded link

No. 492883

>>492873
>I can only recall finding like 1 or 2 GL vns written by real women on itch.
Same. There was a mecha "GL" game where 2/3 of the characters were troons. The whole thing ended up being fake deep, so nothing of value was lost. I also hate when there's a surprise troon character.

No. 492886

>>492808
>route where you kidnap a sheltered cute boy who grew up in a cult
That's a neat concept. Suddenly want to play.

No. 492888

>>492879
Kek case in point. I have a small following from my games in these circles, though I'm not on tumblr/twitter/social media myself. I don't actively encourage them either but if you put anything out publicly and especially if it's female oriented, you'll attract self-hating Aidens and Tiffanies who would like nothing more than to tear down a problematic poster (and not even for the fucked up shit in my games, either, just my stance on gendies). If they knew I was on LC, then I'd get hounded about it by these losers. Sad but true.

No. 492895

>>492799
>i wished you put in general indie games to discuss too id love to suggest some free fanmade games to nonnies
I'm sorry, nona! I'd be willing to make a Good Free Games or Indie Game General if others are interested? I have a lot of nostalgia for many RPG Maker games, so I'd be on board if there are others who want it.
>>492888
It's so sad it has to be like this. I'd love to support your projects, but I understand admitting you're a farmer would be a death sentence. It does give me hope that there are normal devs out there who just don't express it for the same reason you don't.

No. 492896

>>492879
Sorry, I thought some game dev nonna got cancelled for posting a link to her game here. So they cancelled her for being against groomers and pedos?

No. 492898

>>492895
Thanks, Nona. That's a sweet thought.

No. 492901

>>492873
>>492841
Men who attempt to mix fetishes and porn with a 2deep4u plot always come off as extremely cringe and self fellating. I think the only way to do that is if the 2deep4u aspects are against the porn and fetishes otherwise it's usually retarded.

No. 492902

>>492895
There's more normies than you think. Most people don't give a shit and are silent to avoid drawing the attention of truly rabid weirdos. The tide will turn.

No. 492922

>>492879
Why is she following paw patrol

No. 492939

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>>492901
He apparently has a game about incest, which I probably should have predicted.

No. 492948

>>492939
I hope to God his sister locks her bedroom door and does her own laundry

No. 492951

>>492939
The way pretentious TIMs write gets on my nerves so badly kek. They think they're saving the world one navel-gazing sentence that was written with one hand at a time

No. 492952

>>492828
Ain't that a youtuber named Maximillion Doode???

No. 492953

>>492951
This is just standard moid behavior and has been since the first retard caveman drew boobs in charcoal and mammoth fat. They all want to make their weird sex fantasies seem 'sophisticated' or 'insightful' but that's just to silence the little part of them that knows they're degenerates for tugging off to feet or children or animals.

No. 492986

>>492953
I wish women would feel emboldened enough to do this. I wish some crazy nonnie would try to make the next Fate but with retarded femgaze fetish shit. I'd be all over it and I wouldn't even care if the art isn't any good. Hell, id even try to help any way I could

No. 493035

>>492873
>>492841
The most "male autistic narcissism" shit ive ever seen kek

No. 493122

>>492986
NTA but you just motivated me. Thank you.

No. 493138

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>>492888
not being on tumblr is a good call, the devs who keep getting call out google docs made about them all bring it on themselves by being too active on discord/tumblr, which allows all the terminally online teens to find something "problematic" to cancel them for.
I thought it was really funny when the dev for Restart Heart got cancelled, and the initial reason was that she was obsessed with the 14 Days with You dev (with proof, and it WAS weird and cringe), but people HAD to throw in that she was also actually secretly a troon chaser in pic rel, secretly racist, secretly ableist etc. Everyone in those circles is just frothing at the mouth to call each other transphobic/racist/homophobic even when there's genuine bad behaviour to criticise.

No. 493166

>>493138
Kek these people will do anything except finish their fucking games.

No. 493181

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>>493138
>Restart Heart
I searched this game up, and the screenshots on the steam page for it are taking me out. Why are there pronouns next to the names in textboxes?? And why would even the woke crowd like that? They are also the same group that foams out the mouth if someone doesn't remember their bun/bunself pronouns after first mention, but they need a little they/them right next to the name at all times kek.
Is this game made for people with dementia?

No. 493214

Western dating sims are a fucking cancer holy shit. I have a soft spot for very unique ideas and i hate how westerners arent allowed to make anything without irony poisoning. Going with this hyper realistic style and then giving the characters obviously joke designs just looks bad. The reason why gijinkas work in anime its because its such an stylized almost non human looking style, these just look like drag queens.

No. 493215

>>493214
another one i really hate, this one has been in limbo for ages. I hope it never sees the light of day.

No. 493216

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>>493214
…the toilet?

No. 493217

>>492879
I am glad my game is going to be too niche to ever garner any form of fanbase let alone a gendie one. That being said i find it hilarious the women who get off to seeing ugly moids abusing women is this sensitive. I guess female abuse is fine but wrongthink is too much for them.

No. 493218

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>>493214
>>493216
How dare you question the GENIUS writing decisions of the one and only Jim/James “Stephanie” Sterling???
Spoiler for ugly troon

No. 493221

>>493214
In my opinion, if you make a shitpost game, you have to embrace the absurdity or else it just looks like forced humour/gimmicks. I can already tell they're not gonna do anything substantial with this premise. It would be funnier if the protagonist was having a psychotic break or went off their medication or something. Also, the art style literally looks like those mobile game ads.
>>493218
Jim Sterling is STILL active?! That explains everything kek

No. 493222

>>493218
no fucking way its made by this troon. Where did you find this?

No. 493223

>>493221
>It would be funnier if the protagonist was having a psychotic break or went off their medication or something.
No it wouldn't have. That would've been even more retarded and unfunny.

No. 493224

>>493222
It's not technically made only by a troon, but a video game review YouTuber that trooned out called Jim Sterling, was involved in the writing. He actually made a whole almost 30 minute video seething out Hogwarts Legacy when that was coming out kek.

No. 493225

>>493224
>a video game review YouTuber that trooned out
Oh my god, septic levels of moidishness.

No. 493226

>>493138
There are so many cows in the VN dev space. I remember how the Lessons in Love dev used to get into arguments on his itch.io page when people posted negative things about his teacher/student romance game. He also made a bunch of fake VNDB accounts and wrote a lot of 10/10s to the point where it started showing up above famous VNs. The stuff with Gambs discussed in the VN thread a while ago was insane, too. There's so much crazy shit.
>>493214
The ironic meme OELVN genre needs to die. Remember when this one had a massive Zero Time Dilemma spoiler in it, and a bunch of people got super upset about it?

No. 493227

>>493224
Yeah i know this faggot i just had no idea he was involved in this slop. I had no idea he actually did anything besides seethe and beat women at wrestling matches.

No. 493229

>>493227
I'm pretty sure he was also involved in the bestiary writing team for Vampire Survivors, and he's the reason why the witch character is a tranny. Just can't fucking help himself, can he?

No. 493230

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>>493226
I feel like I'm about to overdose and die on millennial humour after watching that.

No. 493243

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>>493214
What the fuck

No. 493251

>>493218
So weird how the majority of them skinwalk some alt girl from the 2000s

No. 493276

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BTD was mediocre but somewhat tolerable. But anything made by electrikpuke is so awful, the game turns into complete garbage. How to draw manga tier art and cringey wattpad alpha omega dialogues. Insane that she's an actual adult and not a 15 years old wattpad girl, what was Gatobob thinking when taking her into game development?

No. 493279

>>493276
You cannot convince me this isnt some form of advanced shitpost. How do you even get off to this. The cringe japanese name is the cherry on top.

No. 493284

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'yuri game jams' are fucking goldmines, holy shit

No. 493288

>>493276
The tiny baby hands with non-existent wrists are so fucking funny, holy shit

No. 493289

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>>493276
The only electricpuke route I thought was semi-tolerable was Vincent's. I remember not COMPLETELY hating it and actually thought the 3P dynamic with MC and the the ponytail twink was fun and interesting. I also liked the ending where he starts to like MC-chan and locks her in the gun cage so he wouldn't accidentally kill her during his werewolf transformation thing. However, it was still cringy, horribly written, and the art was fucking atrocious.
>>493279
Kek he starts speaking Google Translate-tier Japanese at one point. It's so bad.

No. 493290

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>>493284
neocities bio of the author

No. 493291

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>>493226
i feel like this would have been a fun concept if not for the millennial humor >>493230 mentioned. a really actually bad VN with all the spelling and grammar mistakes, and if none of the characters were trying to be cute. a VN made by thecatamites basically

No. 493297

>>493276
See the key is to just not play those routes at all. You're getting like barely half of a game but it's better than experiencing the routes.
This thread made me replay BTD1 yesterday and it was so all over the place it looped around from being kusoge to kamikusoge

No. 493301

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>>493290
That's the same troon who made the slime foot fetish, puppygirl puke train, and incest games.

No. 493305

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No. 493306

>>493291
I agree, but it has to be made by someone who ACTUALLY plays VNs and not someone who thinks they know what a VN is kek

No. 493308

>>493284
>>493301
Can this moid not make a single background that isn't just a badly filtered stock image?

No. 493309

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>>493289
Her most worst BTD route that she ever made is Daniel Morningstar. It's just so lazy, the spanking dialogue and sex scene was so cringe, it's literally a wattpad fanfiction. People in the fandom don't even remember him much
>>493297
What is kamikusoge? Godly shit game?

No. 493313

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>>493309
Enjoy some 2000s deviantart emo Demian art (surprisingly it's from 2017)

No. 493321

>>493306
>Made by someone who ACTUALLY plays VNs
My biggest gripe with OELVNs is that many of them are made by people who either don't like VNs, shit on the format, or just neglect to do any research by playing some before they jump into making one.

No. 493323

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No. 493328

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>>492841
This shit uses the "lesbian" tag on itch.

No. 493331

>>493328
Every single word of that is upsetting.

No. 493333

>>493328
Reminds me of that swawbewwy however you spell that faggots name lolcow, the one that used to draw shit like this in zines and had a whole thing about how he wanted to drink puppy milk(???)

No. 493339

>>493328
>troonsbian
>incest fetish
>"yuri" fetish
>furfag
>art looks like it depicts a literal 10 year old
when does it end

No. 493341

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>>493328
Whoever made this needs his internet connection severed ASAP

No. 493342

>>493321
>My biggest gripe with OELVNs is that many of them are made by people who either don't like VNs, shit on the format, or just neglect to do any research by playing some before they jump into making one.
Purrfect Date is a great example of that. I genuinely believe the developers saw screenshots of Hatoful Boyfriend, never actually played it and thus didn't realize it's actually a kamige (yes, I am using that term unironically and I will defend Hatoful Boyfriend to the death), and then thought that they could do the same thing. This fucking game doesn't even have a skip function, and because of how it's designed, you WILL be rereading the same exact text multiple times. How do you not know to include a skip function unless you've never read a VN?

No. 493344

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>>493328
>>493284
I thought it was Lunaticker who also makes troon incest vns that I saw being posted in Y2k trannies kf thread, this guy seems to be milky too

No. 493351

>>493344
Why do trannies always shit out the exact same Tumblr-poisoned word salad how angsty and intense and full of 3deep5u emotions their shitty games are kek? They all have the same typing style too. I swear these tranny devs are being made in a factory.

No. 493355

>>493328
I don't understand. I really don't get it. Why does this degenerate get to exist on social media and get a 1500$ for this shit ass pedo game while this >>492879 one get's ostracised for just liking posts.

No. 493359

>>493355
Penis privilege strikes again.

No. 493368

>>493359
they both have dicks tho

No. 493370

>>493355
I wonder if it's a good idea to larp as a TiM and make shitty tranny games just to make money. It seems easy enough to copy as a concept.

No. 493371

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>>493344
>this guy seems to be milky too
His bluesky features lolis pissing, his femdom fantasies, spanking, maids, one character from a game called "Coquette Dragoon" dressed up like an infant, excitement over the giant Vaporeon plush, and some other generally weird shit. Manifesting he becomes a full cow one day. Attached image doesn't contain nudity, but I marked it just in case.

No. 493373

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>>493301
his 'self portrait' which is just shotacon

No. 493375

>>493368
The other one is a TIF, her frankendick doesn't count.
>>493370
Kekkk, the seething this would generate.

No. 493377

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>>493373
oops i got the pictures mixed up, prev is his actual face and this is the art

No. 493378

>>493344
THE SAME FIVE TOPICS, they only write games about THE SAME FIVE TOPICS

No. 493380

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>>493371
I was talking about lunaticker
>>493373
That drawing on his shirt literally looks like it was drawn by stwawbwewymilk, the resemblance is uncanny

No. 493382

>>493370
Here, I'll brainstorm the fake-deep description now:
>a story about catgirl maids who piss themselves
>intense suicidal ideation
>stealing your sisters panties
>autogynephilia
>the knowledge that no matter how much you love someone you will never fully understand that persons perspective on the world because you can't experience it through their eyes
>skinwalking that alt girl who rejected you in high school
>fecal matter entering your neovagina
>masturbating to the sound of actual women peeing in the womens restroom
>the inherent loneliness one feels when staring at a star filled sky in a remote area
>plushie fucking
>none of this is a fetish btw this is all very symbolic

No. 493386

>>493382
You could make a random troon VN topic generator with this, kek

No. 493401

>>493382
Needs more navel-gazing nonsense like
>wet fabric as a metaphor for the porosity of selfhood
>intense suicidal ideation as both climax and redemption
>stealing your sister’s panties as a sacred, heretical liturgy

No. 493413

>>493284
>>493301
>Pissing, incest, dubcon
>Violent lesbian sex

They really want to meme themselves that lesbians are just as degenerate as the average penis-haver, huh?

Not saying all lesbians are uwu pure who do nothing but hold hands–but how can this troon convince himself that he has the sexuality of lesbians when his works are so moidish?

Show these games to random people and ask them who they think is behind them. The answer would be pretty obvious.

The only degen lesbian media I know of is Sadistic Beauty GL, and that was waayyyy more sophisticated and sexy than any others shitty yuritroon VNs combined.

No. 493414

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>>493214
A dev once posted on r/otomegames to survey what people wanted out of otome games. This was after they had launched their own otome game which did incredibly poor. I was initially sympathetic - making back your investment on your indie passion project is tough, visual novels are niche… I went to check out the game - a fucking fast food mascot "dating sim". Like seriously? Are western devs so out of touch? They don't do any market research? The only reason people played the KFC meme dating game was because it was released by fucking KFC.

No. 493418

>>493414
In the risk of sounding off-topic, is there a bulletproof way of making a oelvn that isn't gendie, woke, parody slop? It seems most of western vns always one or all three of these–like it's damn near impossible to be earnest in this economy.

No. 493424

>>493414
The "eroge or not" question is so wild when you consider this person was asking about the Taco Bell Dog and Ronald McDonald.

No. 493430

>>493418
>is there a bulletproof way of making a oelvn that isn't gendie, woke, parody slop?

Err, just don't put those themes in your VNs? If someone complains why your otome game doesn't have a male protagonist or why there aren't any fat love interests then just ignore them.

Bewitching Sinners is one example I could think of of a self-indulgent otome/fujo VN free of gendie shit. And that makes sense since the creator is Indonesian, this gender whatever stuff is not in her radar.

No. 493436

>>493418
Plenty of non-gendie indie otome games are still being released, crowdfunded, etc. You may not hear about many of them since they're still niche and indie, usually lack polish, but they're still sincere. It's trendy to make self-insert style games and the "Amare" genre is trying to be a thing in the west (a decent tag for kusogame finding), but I still find things to try and look forward to as someone who only wants female protagonists.

No. 493452

>>493418
I don't want to sound bitter but it seems like only OELVNs that fit one or more of your criteria are the ones that gain attention and other ones fly under the radar

No. 493454

this tif's game suddenly popped up in my mind. I remember finding out about it via the toyhouse page of the smiley character. I found the art style gross despite having nice colours kek

No. 493457

>>493452
Damn, that sucks? I generally want to see more western otomes/vn that fit what I like without all the woke baggage that entails. But on the other hand, that means less weirdos and less normies playing it for the sake of the meme. and speaking as an aspiring game dev who accepted she won't be making money out of this, it's for the best.

No. 493463

>>493457
I mean they're there, you just have to dig a little. Maybe I should look through VNDB and put together a list of Western otomes with female protagonists, no gendieshit, and no parody stuff.

No. 493466

>>493463
Try filtering by anything made in 2012/2013 and earlier. Gendie shit didn't saturate anime/otome spaces until roughly that time, as I recall.

No. 493470

so do you guys think the lack of women in game jams and twine and the small indie game scene in general is the result of girls not being encouraged to get into tech, or the fact that the space is almost 100% male so it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy that no women exist?

i'm mad because i feel like i could have made so many indie games in the past when i was unemployed/working part time and had more free time to devote to it.

No. 493472

>>493470
yeah i think women are discouraged from entering the actual gamedev scene for the same reasons they're usually discouraged from entering tech, the demographics skew heavily male. plus nowadays most online gamedev spaces for "women" are like 90% troon though this isn't true for irl spaces

No. 493473

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>>493466
>>493463
>>493470
This wrapped up submissions recently, you'll still need to sift through it since some games are the self insert type with gender stuff.
https://itch.io/jam/wgf2025a

No. 493474

>>493470
The difference in treatment between female devs and male devs is what really puts me off from trying to go farther than I can in gamedev ngl, look at shit like >>492879 or The Coffin of Andy and Leyley's situation as an example.
Doesn't matter if you're making degenerate DENSETSU NO KUSOGE or a normal game, if people figure out your sex you're next on the chopping block. It's really unfair.

No. 493477

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>>493474
i still like to believe kikiyama is a woman. it's why she's so reclusive and keeps herself a mystery. it's nice to think about one of the foundation games of the indie scene is made by a woman.

No. 493478

>>493470
>>493472
Most women in indie dev make VNs/otomes, though this is obviously leaving out those who contribute to male-led projects (typically in art or story design). A good deal of those women also identify as men or enbys which can make the stats look even more dire. I honestly think that Ren'Py and RPG Maker getting big let a lot of women who didn't have a traditional programming background explore game design for the first time.
>>493473
kek you can really tell which ones are by troons and which ones by actual women. Pro tip: 99% of games tagged 'yuri' are by scrotes and for scrotes.

No. 493577

>>493430
>Indonesian, this gender whatever stuff is not in her radar
No, unfortuately there's a trove of Indonesian gendies. She's "just" based.

No. 493698

>>493470
For visual novels specifically, my experience is that other devs' support is the best way to get free marketing/technical help/a decent jam team, and it's just way easier to get this support as a TiM. I see so many devs give up on their games because they don't get much success, or they struggle to learn programming and get stuck forever on a technical issue, whereas troons get free help all the time. It's also in part because making connections in the niche requires being pro-active and sucking the dick of the big devs to get them to shout you out, and TiMs are more likely to have no self-awareness and feel comfortable doing this. The admin of the biggest western VN dev server is also a TiM, and he goes out of his way to promote other TiMs and games about troons.
As a female dev you're also more likely to get entitled comments asking you to switch your protagonist to male, calling you homophobic for having a female protagonist or whatever other shit men never have to deal with, and I've seen devs quit over that kind of harassment. And finally, otomes with any kind of NSFW content regularly get review bombed by scrotes (because they search for "adult visual novels" and are angry to find anything that isn't some ugly ass 3D rape simulator) so they'll be harder to find if the itch.io rating gets too low.
There's plenty of female devs that push through anyway, learn to code all alone and gain an ok following with no or minimal connections, but I'd say they're split between the handful of super big devs who now dev full-time and make enough money to have a team and the many devs with full-time jobs who chip away at their projects slowly and go on hiatus when life gets in the way. The latter are hard to find if you don't dig through itch.io tags really deeply, but they are there.

No. 493851

>>493477
i also think of her as a woman. the sexual trauma and body horror subplot of the game feels too real and is devoided of sexuality.

No. 493980

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>>493851
all the female-focused bodily horror yeah. and the menace of male figures. their hands touching you. the sense of exclusion and hostility from women whose lives revolve around men. a male couldn't do this. even today still a chilling game to play

No. 494197

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Please tell me I’m not the only one who remembers the posts on the Lemmasoft forums about Mage Wars. I think this all happened in like 2017. I used to love reading the developer’s posts because there was so much drama kek. The backstory for those unfamiliar is there was this very obvious Fate/Stay Night rip-off that the author would insist was NOT copying at all. Tell me if this sounds familiar: a 16-year old mage with daddy issues who is really bad at being a mage (his main ability is creating pale imitations of real things), but is really good at cooking gets conscripted into a battle royale against his will. Other major characters include a silver-haired and mysterious loli with a grudge against the protagonist despite him not recognizing her and turns out to be much older than she looks, a tsundere gifted mage with family issues who initially attacks the protagonist before becoming his ally, an older man who initially seems like a semi-decent guy but it turns out he’s the biggest menace in the story and a sociopath who enjoys watching people’s suffering, and a blonde girl who’s been living in Europe and possesses a massive personal investment in the battle royale. See? Totally different. The author also wrote a bunch of negative comments for voice actors, singers, etc. who were working for free, and there are several posts on the forums with these people just arguing about who didn't communicate effectively. It was so entertaining, and I know I’m not properly recapturing the magic. I decided to reread it because I wanted to share with the thread.

Notable features include reused Touhou sprites, voice acting that will repeat again and again until you hit the next line (Yuuji, is it really you? Yuuji, is it really you? Yuuji, is it really you?), an underestimation of the world's population by about 4.2 billion, an Italian catgirl, cooking scenes (everyone’s favorite part of FSN), a character taking ‘liar liar, pants on fire’ in the most literal way someone possibly could, and certain images not having been implemented so instead of having a background, it’s just a black screen with “image ‘kitchen’ not found” written in the corner. One plot element I found really funny was that the story promises 16 mages, but I guess that was too many to handle, so Not-Illya just fucking murders 6 of them off-screen. They die off-screen in every route. The maximum we ever see is 7 mages plus the overseer. There’s another part where you encounter a button on a random street while walking home from school. It has a sign that says “do not press,” and if you choose to press it, the game will prompt you twice more. Answer ‘yes’ three times, and the street explodes. The antagonist of the second route jumps out of nowhere and calls you stupid. To be fair, I did deserve to be called stupid there. If you don’t press it, the antagonist jumps out of the shadows to inform you that you ‘passed the test.’ I don’t know what I expected to happen when I pressed it, but what was his end goal here? He states it’s to make sure the protagonist isn’t susceptible to reverse psychology and then starts ranting about how he hates people who are susceptible to that kind of thing, which, I guess that makes sense?? But then, later in the story, the reverse psychology option, when presented by that same man, IS the right one. Imagine if Kirei Kotomine had put a massive “DO NOT PRESS” button in the middle of Fuyuki City, and then when Shirou pressed it, Kirei started ranting about how it represented his own capacity for evil and his struggle with his own morality. That’s how random this all felt. At one point, there’s a character who I thought was being built up as some kind of edgy rival, and then he becomes a victim of the magical equivalent to a drone strike and fucking dies in like his second appearance. Then, the guy who killed him, the protagonist’s best friend (surprise villain), also fucking dies in this exact same scene for a different reason. This is immediately after the betrayal reveal. The edgy rival character shows up in multiple routes and usually dies without contributing, so I don’t think he really had any purpose. In the first route, the main villain’s motivation is to protect his grandson (the protagonist) from dying in the Mage Wars by murdering all of the mages, but then there’s a bad ending where he just poisons the protagonist?? That does NOT seem like the best way to keep your grandson alive. The way the third route starts is by the catgirl breaking into the protagonist’s bedroom and forcing him to sign up for the Mage Wars. There is another character cursed to have cat ears who kills himself by drinking poison nine times (because as a catboy, he has 9 lives) in front of his two children. There are also a lot of typos that are really funny, with my favorite being when you “call an ambivalence” for an injured girl. If this post seems disjointed, it’s because Mage Wars has no pacing. Shit just happens. This VN is so schizo. Please give it a try because I didn’t include everything and there’s much more wild shit that happens. You know in the bad art thread, how some anons will write “sovl” in response to specific drawings? This is the VN equivalent.

No. 494198

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>>494197
Same anon. I wanted to include a screenshot with this guy’s Brittany Venti-esque eye gap.

No. 494199

>>494197
>who kills himself by drinking poison nine times
>because as a catboy, he has 9 lives
>in front of his two children
KINO

No. 494249

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>>493371
On bsky he baited people to play this "renpy port for a tgirl yuri maid eroge made in the early 2000s". Except all the art is stolen. A troon just slapped their fetish fic onto some old eroge assets. Unoriginal and dishonest until called out by one person (the rest of the comments were just praises from other troons)
>>493370
>>493382
He's running a "toxic yuri" jam with cash prizes, you can take his money nonnies if you can stomach having your work sit next to fetish games https://itch.io/jam/toxic-yuri-vn-jam

No. 494307

>>492808
>you get to kidnap a sheltered boy
Game name?

No. 494416

>>494307
Awful Kidnapper by demon-mage on itch.io

No. 494526

>>494249
$500 almost makes it worth it, but part of me wonders if he’ll actually give it out or just say “um I actually need that money for hrt and vet bills and uhh stuff so i’ll give everyone 500 robux UwU”

No. 494593

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>>493138
KEKKK callout posts like these are hilarious imagine genuinely giving a shit about this
https://www.tumblr.com/the-n109-zone/781459318628335616/tw-racism-ableism-homophobia-stalking

No. 494604

>>493454
The smiley guy looks like he was synthesized in a lab to be a tumblr sexyman. I do not intend this as a positive statement.
>>494249
>Except all the art is stolen.
Holy shit, and I just know if anyone else did that, he'd be ranting about how bad art theft is.

No. 494611

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>chinese bootleg of a better japanese game
>despite the characters being based on irl warships the designs have retarded fantasy themes like elfs in loincloths and dragons and other stupid shit
>incredibly overdesigned characters, barely any of them have a military themes or references to their irl ships
>interesting gameplay idea ruined by being gachaslop with autoplay

No. 494647

>>494526
Considering that most (if not all) of the judges are troons, and most of the example games they give are tagged "transgender", they'll definitely just favor their ilk and see nothing wrong with it. A game by a woman will probably be overlooked unless she caters to their tastes and fetishes. A game about toxic lesbians with GC and feminist themes would probably kill them.

No. 494650

>>494647
Even if you cater to them, troons (and moids in general) will always close ranks and pick amongst their own. Trying to pander is a no win game; you shouldn't even try.

No. 494888

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>>494593
This dev has some serious jealousy issues kek. Also the fact that her server apparently required people to post images of their real IDs is kind of insane

No. 494934

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Me and my pet scrote wanted to watch me stream this game to take the piss out of it and I got 100 viruses from a torrent of it.
Also why is the token white the only conventionally attractive one?

No. 495321

>>494934
>Also why is the token white the only conventionally attractive one?
Speaking of that, didn't the devs of this game literally have a melty because the fans only obsessed over the emo white guy? I remember reading about that happening but I can't find it anywhere and I searched for a while. If I'm spreading misinformation online, sorry.

No. 495613

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It's like they mass-produce these developers.

No. 495633

>>495613
>A girl willingly becomes a monster and is subject to brutal violence
why do they all write like this? not to mention why does every game center on a girl (always underage or extremely young) being hurt or molested in the ugliest tumblr art style you've ever seen, it gets to the point where you can tell the author is male even if it's not mentioned anywhere

No. 495686

>>495613
We need a tranny VN bingo. Rape, yuri, catgirls, bodily fluids, and NVL style presentation should be on there

No. 495781

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>>492808
>>494416
Thanks for sharing! I love big boys and alt men. I started playing and while I'm not into the thought of being murdered, it's fun trying to turn the tables on him and see if I can "win"

No. 495789

File: 1747386729336.jpg (436.17 KB, 1469x1634, lol.jpg)

>>495686
as a sufferer of many deep dives looking for good indie titles i made one

No. 495790

>>495789
you gotta add the lesbian incest

No. 495914

>>495781
>>492808
Why do tumblr artists draw eyes so high even in normal angle? Do they don't know where the eyes are placed?

No. 496093

File: 1747439985509.png (Spoiler Image,676.88 KB, 514x880, really.png)

>>492939
>everyone has a halo
>but none of us are pure enough for it to be seen
>Game starts with a sex-scene
'kay.
I didn't 'play' much longer after the scene ended. From what I recall it's just Priscilla (white/blue hair) being more enthusiastic for sex after already climaxing, and the Troongel kinda reluctantly being seduced into doing more. Troongel gets more selfish and aggressive toward the end and afterward feels bad/awkward about it. I'm expecting the angst/'toxic yuri' to be centered around girls thinking Troongel is so super epicsauce at sex but that's the only thing they use him for. There's a line where Troongel isn't really sure what his relationship with Priscilla is but figures because she's around so often and they screw so much they have to be dating, so I'm probably not too far off in that there'll be "but I thought we were closer than that?" scenes or whatever. Only text in image but spoilered anyway.

No. 496094

>>495789
You also need to include the obligatory sexualised child character.

No. 496101

>>495781
>big boy
obese*

No. 496103

>>495914
The common Tumblr combination of high, small and close-set eyes is absolutely repulsive, I'm glad someone else pointed this out. How all those Tubmlr girls memed themselves into finding that attractive (and worse, exaggerating it more and more over time) is beyond me.

No. 496150

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>>495914
I think the problem is how close the eyes are drawn

No. 496161

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>>496150
i do think the eyes being so close together is really what makes him look unappealing, but they are also really high up on his face as well which doesn't do him any favors.
even just a small edit to bring the eyes down a little and move them further apart makes the face look so much better honestly

No. 496164

>>496161
NTA, I think your edit has the eyes a little bit too low, but when seen side by side, it really makes the original look ugly as fuck.

No. 496165

>>496161
Kek the original on the right looks like a shitpost edit compared to yours

No. 496171

>>495789
Beautiful, nona. You need an additional one with "fetishes awkwardly inserted into story as symbolism" and "using 'girl' to refer to grown women."
>>496093
I was eating when I read this, and I gotta say, 'girlstink' has made it significantly more difficult to do so kek. That entire screenshot is repulsively written. This sounds like an absolute mess, and I'm sure you're not missing much by not finishing it. I'd be willing to bet the rest of it is self-indulgent, self-pitying whining.

No. 496219

>>494934
Where did you download this from nonny? the idea of getting mega aids from validate is fucking hilarious

No. 496299

>>496161
I don't mind when moid characters have longer noses resulting in the eyes being placed a bit higher than usual, they remind me of old shoujo mangas. They're like greyhounds, they can be very elegant. But it's fucking unacceptable if the scrote is a fucking fat, ugly ass obese landwhale. Like I feel like I can smell this drawing, he even has manboobs. Also I hate how they draw the eyes with tiny pupils.

I love this thread though, as someone who is trying to make a game this is all a great example of what not to do.

No. 496300

>>496101
Yeah big boy, fat, obese, whatever word you wanna use, I love characters like him and bonus points for looking a little alt and minus points for him being p*lish
>>496161
Looks good but I think the eyes shouldn't be that far apart. Making them lower looks better though

No. 496329

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Boyfriend to death remake will be released this early summer, what's your thoughts?

No. 496331

>>496329
such an awful art style

No. 496337

>>496331
I think in one of the tumblr asks Gato said she wanted more cartoony stylized artstyle instead of semi-realism she did in TPOF, but it looks so unappealing. It's like realism artist trying to draw anime for the first time

No. 496342

>>496337
TPOF wasn’t realistic though, it was still her gross fat nosed tumblr art style but with more detailed rendering. i would play her games if the art wasn’t so ugly

No. 496349

>>496337
tbh id take the realistic rendering over whatever this is atleast youre kind of impressed by the rendering to forget the shit plot murder game youre playing kek

No. 496359

>>496329
I know Boyfriend to Death wasn't ever good, but the decision to make everything uglier and make Strade fatter is baffling.

No. 496365

>>496331
NTA but I think that new art style looks better than the old one. Reason being what >>496342 said.

No. 496427

>>496329
Fit Strade mod when

No. 496436

File: 1747503817736.png (894.35 KB, 1378x1110, strade wiki.png)

>>496427
Gato hates when people draw him skinny

No. 496447

>>496436
god bless those chinese anons who dont give a fuck and still make him slim

No. 496451

>>496436
>pic rel
right is literally my type. Why are western vn devs so cucked?

No. 496452

>>496451
Imagine if a dev had the same attitude for their female characters. Moids would've already made coomified drawings of her

No. 496454

>>496451
Because they drank the woke libtard kool-aid. It's insufferable

No. 496455

>>496452
Exactly!! Men draw hentai of female characters who are canonically gay. Nothing stops them. Women need to stop being such pussies and draw what they want.

No. 496461

>>496454
Every western olevn jam packs walled, ugly moids or uggo women like candy or trojan horses gendieshit down my throat. It be fine if that was the point, but no, you're expected to find them sexy and the game's whole story literally describes them as hot instead letting player find them attractive themselves. Western devs should stop telling people their characters are hot and actually design them to be hot. Maybe then people wouldn't be going around workshopping a actual hotter versions from your game?

No. 496471

>>496436
Creators whining about their audience engaging with the art in the ~wrong way~ is a huge pet peeve of mine. If the fandom is doing cancerous shit like sending you death threats or inciting violence, sure, by all means, tell them off. But getting on your moralfag high horse against the people who SUPPORT YOUR WORK because they gave your OCs ozempic shots?? I'm sorry but that's just being ungrateful and thin-skinned. Even if someone is doing it "disrespectfully" to "improve him", who cares? Literally just ignore them? Don't put your game on the public internet if you get triggered by redesigns. Sorry your fanbase didn't draw enough free ugly bastard fetish porn for you, Gato, kek

No. 496476

>>496329
It's weird I like some aspects of the new art, love thick lineart and cel shading. But Strade looks so weird now it becomes unappealing. I wouldn't even care if he was fat but like why does he stand like that and have weirdly parted hair and a thousand yard stare into your soul? At least the UI looks cool.
>>496471
I feel like the minute you turn your OCs into a marketable product like a game you can't ask people to not do XYZ anymore. You can set some guidelines sure but having meltdowns is embarrassing and will turn people off from your product. If she's so mad then just change it anyway lol

No. 496483

>>496476
>You can set some guidelines sure but having meltdowns is embarrassing and will turn people off from your product.
Yeah, this is how I feel too. It just makes you look immature to sperg about people modding/editing their own games which they bought with their own money kek (I assume that's what happened to upset her anyway). It's not as if they were doing anything nasty or scrotebrained to her characters they literally just made him skinnier.

No. 496489

>>496483
Some people just should not post their characters publicly. I understand being a sperg who feels protective over the sanctity of your characters characterisation, but it's like they haven't even thought of the option to keep them in your own head where the fans can't tamper with it.

No. 496498

>>496436
>"Please keep your harsh criticism to yourself"
>Examples being "why is he dark?" and "why is he fat?"
First of all, kek at the implication that disliking fat scrotes is on the same level as racism/colourism. Secondly, this seems very convenient. Does anyone else feel like this is a way to dissuade criticism altogether, especially ones like "why aren't the love interests in my coom game coomable" because the creator can just cry that you're being mean to her husbando

No. 496503

>>494197
>There’s another part where you encounter a button on a random street while walking home from school. It has a sign that says “do not press,” and if you choose to press it, the game will prompt you twice more. Answer ‘yes’ three times, and the street explodes.
>The antagonist of the second route jumps out of nowhere and calls you stupid.
>If you don’t press it, the antagonist jumps out of the shadows to inform you that you ‘passed the test.’ He states it’s to make sure the protagonist isn’t susceptible to reverse psychology and then starts ranting about how he hates people who are susceptible to that kind of thing
>But then, later in the story, the reverse psychology option, when presented by that same man, IS the right one.
I can't believe you're talking shit about this masterclass in Lynchian writing.

No. 496883

>>493214
Finally schizo reprensentation

No. 496896

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>>496171
>you're not missing much by not finishing it.
Oh, absolutely, but I'm mildly curious (and enjoy reading through shitfics at times so I figure this isn't too different a ballpark, kek.) If nothing else I got to clip the incredible literary strength of the scene in pic related. For context, Arisael has just awoken from a night of incestuous troongel sex and discovers his halo has fractured some because of it. He slips into a major, terrified panic because of this and that leads to vid rel. Followed by another sex scene between them, obviously.

No. 496925

>>496329
Look i have nothing against yanderefags when its a hot guy. But who the fuck gets off to this ugly fatso?

No. 496929

>>496436
has she ever considered maybe theres a reason everybody is trying to fix her butt-ugly design kekk
>>496896
what the chatrooms look like when you join a random TF2 server

No. 496976

File: 1747557346328.png (152.39 KB, 817x898, celestial blanket.png)

>>496896
Holy shit, this is so embarrassing kek. Please post more if you continue to subject yourself to this trash. The persistent use of onomatopoeia, hentai-influenced dialogue, abuse of caps lock, and switching tense mid-sentence really paint a picture of the person writing this. I checked out the comments on itch.io, and they're exactly what you'd expect.
>such bright stars in the celestial blanket we call fucked up queer fiction community
No wonder these people think the writing in these VNs is good kek.

No. 496985

>>496925
Women with low self-esteem who were convinced that liking Gojo-tier cuties is a white supremacist Nazi psysop or whatever.

No. 496997

>>496925
Because everyone has their own tastes, whether they just like that unconventional thing, or that and the conventional at the same time. It may make people like >>496985 bitter but her tinfoil isn't always true, sometimes people are just wired differently.

No. 496998

>>496896
The adlibs are so fucking ridiculous kek

No. 497032

>>496997
Kekk "everyone has their own tastes" but somehow it's always the walled + fat combo celebrated by insecure and terminally online women. Ugly male psyop is real

No. 497033

>>496976
All that effort into writing the most pretentious review, only to misspell 'excellently'.

No. 497084

>>497032
>implying twink-loving fujos and bishie fangirls on lc don't fit that exact same description
Is there also a psyop for girls who like Bill Cypher or the DHMIS clock? Kek

No. 497092

>>496985
But how can someone meme themselves into liking fat walled men? Are they genuinely aroused by wrinkles and fat rolls?

No. 497102

>>497084
Nta but twinks and bishies are atleast actually attractive

No. 497104

File: 1747586300182.jpg (Spoiler Image,46.91 KB, 686x386, hq720 (8).jpg)

>>497092
You already know what's gonna happen by asking that
>"how/why do some women like fat/old moids?"
>someone who does will see it and give a genuine reply
>she will explain what the appeal is to her
>like 3 anons will reply to her either sperging or making fun of her
>you join in because you disagree with her, despite being the one who asked in the first place
>bonus points if redtexts ensue
Thread tax spoilered for footfaggotry. The Flipside was SO disappointing.

No. 497107

>>497104
This game was never good

No. 497111

>>497107
I somewhat enjoyed the original but the teenage girl portrayal fucked me up. From the "like, i'll totally kill myself, like!" speech to shit like Nicole referring to her own ass being nice out of the blue. Every other adult in the game being a pedophile doesn't help either. The creator is a creep, and the footfaggotry isn't even the worst part of The Flipside. The palestinian human trafficking ending was absolutely vile.

No. 497112

>>497111
>The palestinian human trafficking ending
Wasn't this game set in early 2000s?

No. 497115

File: 1747587473557.png (Spoiler Image,1.12 MB, 541x1504, 'great fucking lesbian activit…)

>>496976
>The writing is engaging and superb
>amazingly transcestual sex scenes
>>>>engaging and superb
>>>>amazingly
no
>Please post more if you continue to subject yourself to this trash.
Will do. I'll try and space out my posts about it just to not back-to-back clog the thread.

No. 497117

>>497112
Oh you sweet summer child

No. 497124

>>497112
The Israeli invasion is since the 90s nona

No. 497126

>>497115
>lesbians
>they both have penises
huh???

No. 497130

>>497115
What the hell? And why is this giving me old vn vibes? Why are they into this?

No. 497160

>>496997
That cant be the case considering women in japan, who live in a country that despite being misogynistic allows them a ''female gaze'' industry choose plastic alien pale 3dpds and beautiful bishies instead of the fatties and ogres westoids like. Considering that western women are often bullied for liking twilight and kpoopies and other stuff at a young age to me it just steems as a response to all those years of nagging from moids and pickmes alike. Its not normal to like dysgenic looking men. Its why people recognize its a fetish when a man likes the same but genderbent. Its just not normal and there is enough proof from our eastern sisters to prove it.

No. 497164

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>>496896
All the names are retarded but
>Remilia
You just fucking know the creator of this game is one of the many tranny 2hu scrotes that views the girls as transition goals and jacks off to them, fucking ewww.

No. 497183

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>>497160
>women having unconventional attractions? No, that can't possibly exist
How are people going to bully girls who like old and/or fat scrotes any less than girls who like anime boys and kpop stars? That makes no sense. Some girls wanna fuck shit like picrel and it's considered the peak of cringe culture

No. 497186

>>497183
Who the hell are those guys besides Caine and king dice?

No. 497196

>>497183
Because women who get bullied for liking bishies get bullied by insecure men and pickmes who hate women having standards. Those things are rightfully cringe and not comparable to cute anime men.

No. 497208

>>497196
Ngl it's obnoxious af to act like women with weird tastes have no standards whatsoever and drag down the entire female sex and uphold all of patriarchy from their kinks/husbandos alone. No, having these tastes doesn't make you a pickme, and women who don't think exactly like you don't center all their thoughts and actions around men. Not to mention all the men who will be offended that characters like Heavy from TF2 or Count Frollo have fangirls while they can't even get laid. What I'm trying to say is, I get it when it's tifs and their "old man yaoi" or whatever since they make it a statement, but not every woman into fat guys or silver foxes is like that. Life is not a cringe compilation video.

No. 497210

>>497164
Remilia doesn't even sound like an angel name. Wasn't there a really infamous troon who also changed his name to Remilia?
>>497115
>sweaty balls
>the sweaty smell
Why is this scrote so fixated on sweat and the way it smells?
>the relentless pull of gravity on my soul
I just know he was so proud of himself when he wrote this middle school creative writing project-tier sentence.

No. 497212

>>497208
I wonder if the woman (women?) who keep going on the crusade of how it's womankind's natural state to like anime bishies and people only bully you for liking bishies is younger. I'm on the older side, and I always liked a variety of guys, from the kind that anon would approve of to ugly/fat/old ones, and I remember back in the 2000s you'd get mocked relentlessly and bullied for liking weird characters (anything weirder than Sephiroth, basically). I tried to stop liking the weird guys so I wouldn't get made fun of but it didn't work lol. I think the current pushback into more women liking baras/fat guys/old man yaoi is the reaction to that bishie-only environment. But like I said, I like both ugly dudes and pretty boys and I'm old, so about a decade back I noticed that the bishies had gone extinct in my usual spaces, and the girls who made fun of me for liking ugly guys liked ugly guys now too. But there are definitely more bishies around now than in the mid-2010s. I think eventually it'll swing back, and pretty boys will reign again for a while, and then ugly guys, and on and on. That's how beauty trends (and trends in general) work. The younger set pushes back against the older set because anything 5-10 years old is cringe and anything new is based and everyone whines about everyone else's taste all the time.

No. 497215

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>implying women either love conventionally attractive characters or older/bigger ones but never both
>mfw I love N and Adaman from Pokemon, Link from Zelda and Riku from KH, and at the same time Mr House from FNV, Thor from GoW and Bob from Tekken
>several anons itt just witnessed their reality shatter
The House Hunted VN scrotes are still ugly as fuck tho don't get me wrong kek

No. 497314

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Finished DDD. I'll probably write a more thought-out post about it sometime tomorrow. For now I'll just post… this. Engaging and superb indeed.

No. 497400

>>497314
>Angels using Twitter and watching anime
>Author randomly inserting a rant about online haters, no doubt derived from his real-life experience
>Unprompted mention of piss fetish
>Usage of "y'all" even though the author is Finnish
Edith Wharton, Jane Austen, and Toni Morrison wish they possessed his intellectual prose and insight into the human condition.
>I'll probably write a more thought-out post about it sometime tomorrow
Please, nona. I love reading posts about stuff like this so I don't have to experience it firsthand. Every screenshot you've posted has been repulsive, and I cannot believe how positive all the reviews are.

No. 497461

>>497084
>>497183
All young women into geriatric ugly moids have been psyopped and have low self-esteem, but not all low self-esteem women become cheerleaders for ugly moids. Simple really. Now if you get off to objects, furries, cartoon characters for children etc. you're just porn-addicted and autistic on top of terminally online, that's a separate matter and a tiny minority of women. Of course women are going to get bullied less for liking fat hairy actors/characters because older ugly moids like to imagine that young women are into them. They're the ones who feel threatened when they realize that, normally, women like cute men their age, hence they call it gay and ridicule it. You know, ugly characters would be fine if they weren't pushed so hard all the time. From Western dating games to movies in which beautiful young actresses are paired with fugly men who could be their dads IRL… It's OK to point it out. It's not an attack on the women themselves or their RL boyfriends.(derailing)

No. 497485

>>497115
>"""""Lesbians""""
>Her cock
>Precum
>Erection
>Sweaty balls
>My shaft
Tranny males will seethe endlessly about BL, male characters existing, and fujos, and then they'll make entire visual novels about two faggots raping each other

No. 497486

>>497461
>liking cartoon characters for kids is the most autistic thing ever! But also it's not what will get you bullied by men the most!
Makes no sense. Also liking tall skinny object-heads or idealized dilf/fat characters =/= being "cheerleaders" for ugly men, those don't look like irl men. And besides, that make them think "she'll go for that uggo but not me?". Also, you act like they hate attractive men/characters. Even if a girl's standards are low, what keeps ugly moids from having to rival with hot ones?
>I'm calling women who like cartoon characters porn-addicted and autistic but I'm totally not attacking them!
If only a smidge of that energy went into criticizing men instead of making tinfoil theories about women and their sexual preferences
>ugly actor mention
Those are rich. That's literally the one thing even hot men bitch and moan about because of "golddiggers"

No. 497525

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>>492939
This isn't good for a few reasons. It doesn't mix the drama/angst in with the sex well at all, simply because the writer is too aroused. Arisael's been shown to have a somewhat negative feel toward sex (or at the very least dispassionate and ashamed, though again dev was too horny to do it super well), but as soon as Remilia enters the scene he becomes some bratty princess that easily falls to pleasure. Sure, that's definitely the dev leaning into the theme of Arisael needing/secretly yearning to experience being pampered/intimacy from an angle different from the "do it because it's the only real way I think I can keep the girls happy/means to an end" he's accustomed to, but it's too over the top to hit (and a shit way to handle Arisael's conflict in general but hey, TiMs are obsessed with being coddled babygirls.) The writing is never especially strong, but it becomes noticeably much, much more 'quirky' in how it reads once Arisael and Remilia take the full focus.
I can never take anything seriously. There's too much dumb, 'silly' dialogue, swearing, and horrendous porn for me to feel anything for Arisael when he's flipping out in despair and harming himself. I care not an ounce for the relationship between him and Remilia. Remilia's shown to consistently fetishize Arisael's status as an un-fallen angel, but it never gets the seriousness it should attributed to it considering how stressed Arisael is over fucking up as an angel. The actual 'toxi yuri' between them could've at the bare minimum been "fallen-angel sees how angel is falling apart at the seams and works to insidiously further that process" but instead, no, it's "Remilia is just the type of emotional/sexual support and comfort Arisael needed actually! they'll be fallen together!" the 'toxic yuri' is just they tried to maul each other when they first met (and had some violent sex because of course.) Otherwise Arisael is just a bratty, mentally unstable tsundere and Remilia is bordering an outright self-insert, frankly.
Toward the end there's a moment where Remilia asks if Arisael every really thought of humans as 'people.' He says no, Rem says that's bad, Ari goes "wtf so maybe if I had just connected to someone normally…" big emotional moment whatever whatever. The problem is, though, that the few interactions we've seen Arisael have with humans just… don't convey that. Quite noticeably detached/distant? Sure. But he showed some level of legit affection for Priscilla, and literally right after the first scene he's worried about how selfish he got with Priscilla during sex, to say nothing of the agonizing he does over feeling bad for having sex whilst he can hear the prayers and sense the feelings (specifically exhaustion, hunger, loneliness) of people around him. Like there are little bits and pieces during the later part that ig give credence to the reveal of his opinions, but absolutely none of them are as weighty as when he's tearing himself apart over no longer being able to assuage the troubles of people around him and instead simply having sex where he STILL feels like he screwed up on some level and hurt the person he was 'comforting.' It may just be better to say initial Arisael is simply different from later Arisael. What few interesting things that could've been done with what gets shown at the start gets swallowed up by the dev's unrepentant desire for playing into his "sadist big sis x brat little sis" dynamic between Arisael and Remilia.
>God is clothed with the light of the sun and stars.
>My form; wretched, pitiable, blind, and naked.
Aaa, powerful… ku to the so.

No. 497531

>>497208
>Ngl it's obnoxious af to act like women with weird tastes have no standards whatsoever and drag down the entire female sex
But this is true. Women with weird tastess cant just simply like their ugly husbandos, they have take the moral high ground and claim they like fatties because they like men with meat on their bones or bishies are effeminated or boring or blah blah. Lying about women with shit taste being pure innocent autists when there is so much proof of them being pickmes is just lying. Look at gato and her hatred towards skinny and pretty men, are you going to tell me shes also harmless when she has to make rules against making her fatso a healthy weight?(derailing)

No. 497542

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>>497531
Yep, absolutely, must be why the women itt with ugly husbandos were so passive and chill about it. Hell, I have a couple myself and you don't see me claiming it's superior or whatever you think I'll do. Can you move it to the male psyop thread while we carry on about kusoges now?
>>497525
>die pervert
I hate that trope so much; the girl fighting back and saying these things but it's only supposed to rile up the scrote more. Kinda lile that masochistic pedo kink shit where the kid threatens the pedo to call the police, like in that one meme song that was very popular (picrel, it's not even explicit but it feels disgusting anyways so I spoilered).
>>493224
He's also a wrestler and has been for years. I've only seen him fight men and I'm scared to check if he fights women now that he trooned out. Oh, and he has a blue-haired gf (possibly a tif) who is poly, basically cucking him kek

No. 497543

>>497542
Most western kusoges involve ugly husbandos being shilled as attractive so it goes hand in hand with the ugly man psyop. Maybe dont come here if you get offended when your yandere vn kusoge husbando gets called fat.

No. 497547

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>>497543
>Maybe dont come here if you get offended when your yandere vn kusoge husbando gets called fat.
I'm not even that anon kek, just bored of you regurgitating the same point over and over without adding anything new. Pretty sure even ppl who agree with you feel this way

I had to delete this post and redo it because I wrote about how thankfully Jim Sterling doesn't fight women, but then I found picrel. Fuck me. So he fights men including tims and drag queens, AND tifs. And the gf I mentionned is actually Sterling's wife as it turns out, she is indeed a tif (nb) and if I understood correctly, she gets to cheat but not him. It's darkly hilarious. I don't understand how the wrestling and anarchist polytroon shit fits in with games or dating sims but ig he tried to contribute to a dating sim bc it's the go-to for ppl who never did shit in the game industry?

No. 497551

>>497547
Dating Sims have a low barrier of entry and so does troonism/polyshit/wrestle sperging.

No. 497553

>>497551
>dating sim having a low entry barrier
True. Any retard can use Ren'Py and there's plenty of tutorials out there. The only real "challenge" is art and people like the John Doe/House Hunted creator can't even be fucked to slap a filter on real backgrounds or use pngs of phones or something, so they use AI. But like, AI of irl imagery, so it's extra obvious that it's fake.
>wrestling sperging
I read that as "sperging about wrestling" aka commentary vids and there's not a single one abt Sterling kek

No. 497555

>>497553
Less that and more of the weird obsession dateless needy moids online develop around wrestling/WWE. Like they're trying to prove that they're masculine by sperging about a "sport" but then they went and picked what's essentially fag theater in tights.

No. 497565

>>497212
>anime bishies
These nonnas watch too much anime to consider not every woman out there likes 18 year old skellies. Moids simply hate attractive men with good bone structure period because it shows no amount of pumping roids and gymmaxxing will ever get you women. A good face, hair, and foundation attracts women even if some won't admit it. So to see nonnies sperging over whatever it's natural is credulous in the face of moids ruining our lives with their invasion of female spaces and insistences of normalizing coomerism via innocuous avenues.

No. 497566

>>497565
Careful nonna! You're about to be called a pick-me who promotes ugly men!
>pumping roids and gymmaxxing
You know what's so fucking funny though? TRT. Not only do the poor retards who use it emulate TiFs, but they cause themselves balding, or at least earlier balding. It's like God smiting them for their bs.

No. 497574

>>497525
There's a lot of talk of penis for a yuri game. The keysmashes in dialogue are also… a choice.
>Remilia's shown to consistently fetishize Arisael's status as an un-fallen angel
Is this a metaphor for something in the game? Like, is it supposed to be a metaphor for Arisael being an "egg?" And then, when he becomes a fallen angel, that's supposed to represent trooning out? Am I reading too much into this?
>the 'toxic yuri' is just they tried to maul each other when they first met
Kek men can't write relationships at all, can they?
>"sadist big sis x brat little sis" dynamic
I could've guessed it would be something like this. I don't know why men are so enamored with this dynamic. It's weird and so cliche at this point.

No. 497614

>>497551
Even actual dating sims would be too much effort for them. All they do is make a low-effort anime slideshow about sex (VN) and call it "dating game".

No. 497623

>>497574
>There's a lot of talk of penis for a yuri game.
It's a real lesbian hell, assuredly.
>Is this a metaphor for something in the game?
No, it's literally just Remilia finding Arisael's status as an angel hot (they're both TiMs). Like, there's one scene where he wonders if Arisael could maybe still recover his standing but eventually figures he was screwed up before he even met Remilia and maybe their encounter was simply "just the final blow to hasten the inevitable" and he wanted to "treasure" Arisael and "see through" what he started. Focusing on how fucked a mindset that is would've actually given at least something to the toxic """yuri""" aspect but it instead is just hand-waved and used as fuel for shit porn scene dialogue/writing.

No. 497794

>>497614
I really hate western devs calling their games "dating sims" when they have more in common with route based romance vns than actual dating sims. Where are the stats? The day and night cycles? Anything approaching gameplay? I know renpy isn't super optimized for this sort of game, but would it kill these people to do something interesting with their content? It's almost always slideshows with some choices that don't even matter to the plot.

No. 497802

>>497483
>except anime boys because ???
I'm afraid that if you don't see a difference between characters who look human and those who don't, I can't help you kek. Obviously the ones that don't even look human can't be included in the conventionally attractive versus unattractive character debate, and they're less likely to be presented as love interests that women are supposed to feel attracted to.
>what I disagree with the most here is that moids would feel threatened by a woman who likes hot men/male characters.
I don't even understand how it's possible to think this tbh. Men ridicule and call gay all the characters/actors/singers that are good-looking to women despite not being "manly" enough (manly meaning unkempt and older) and that women fangirl about. They don't complain or laugh so much about average or below average middle-aged men and roidpigs because they're relatable and don't threaten their masculinity. What's the mysterious reason for men casting and designing wrinkled, average-looking males while women are always young and perfect? Shouldn't be that hard to make everyone the same age and equally attractive.

No. 497803

>>496219
Late response but steamunlocked i think?

No. 497804

>>497525
>incest
>feet shit
>mentions of horny gacha gaming (predominantly a male activity)
>mentions of porn sites (predominantly a male activity)
>"uwu, you're protesting but I know you actually like it"

Jesus Christ these are the malest activities/interest on God's green Earth, why is he trying to pass this off as a "lesbian" game? I'm not saying real lesbians are pure and can never be freaky, but come the fuck on, no fucking IRL dyke is gonna get turned on by reading this fetishistic straight male ""yuri"" abomination.

Also, kek at the constant usage of the word "sis" in the dialogue–real-life sisters definitely spam that word as naturally the way his writing does.

No. 497805

>>497802
>I'm afraid that if you don't see a difference between characters who look human and those who don't, I can't help you kek.
You mentionned cartoon characters for children. Those can be human. Yet you think anime boys are less autistic than, idk, Nightwing from Teen Titans or something. Is it because you deem japanese media superior just because it's japanese?
>bishounens threaten moids' masculinity and "roidpigs" don't
Lmao what? The entire point of bishounens is that they don't have any rough features to make beardless skinny japanese men feel better about themselves
>What's the mysterious reason for men casting and designing wrinkled, average-looking males while women are always young and perfect?
The reason is that they won't cast older yet talented women due to them prioritizing looks over talent out of misogyny. However, that doesn't mean that the solution should be to case men based on looks and youth as well, it should instead mean that women shouldn't be judged so harshly either.

No. 497813

>>497805
>Yet you think anime boys are less autistic than, idk, Nightwing from Teen Titans or something.
I'm not sure why you keep bringing up anime boys when I didn't even mention them in my initial post. And I do think that, in general, husbando'ing characters from kid cartoons is a bit autistic especially if they're supposed to be kids themselves, but you're free to believe that most people would disagree with me.
>The entire point of bishounens is that they don't have any rough features to make beardless skinny japanese men feel better about themselves
Ah, I thought men weren't threatened by what women like anyway? Changed your mind? It's not even true btw, male characters in manga/anime for male audiences are often manly/muscular, but love interests in josei/shojo manga and even otome gacha (so games that are definitely trying to please women, not men) are bishies.
>that doesn't mean that the solution should be to case men based on looks and youth as well
Actually yes they should when the setting or the story dictates that the characters are young and good-looking, but this often only applies to women. And what about male characters that are designed ugly/old? There should not be any consideration of "talent" here. But men self-insert in the male characters they write/design, hence all the big age gaps and average (or straight up fugly) male characters.

No. 497836

>>497813
>not sure why you keep bringing up anime boys
Because this thread is about kusoges and this discussion stemmed from how the dating options are depicted in these games, ugly/old husbandos etc. This is why you're supposed to take your shit to the ugly male psyop thread, you're straight up forgetting what this thread is even about.
>especially if they're supposed to be kids themselves
I have very bad news for you regarding pedophile culture in japanese media
>Ah, I thought men weren't threatened by what women like anyway? Changed your mind?
Nope, it's called self-insertion. It's the reason why so many animes (especially isekais) have run-of-the-mill plain male protagonists, so that males can see themselves in them. You even make a point about it at the end of your post, except you forget that the entire premise is self-idealization rather than "I will portray the character as ugly because I'm ugly". But to get back to the bishie example, it's why people who make animations/comics/etc. tend to portray their own demographic. Even within the same anime for example, characters tend to look different based on where they're from, and they're not necessarily uglier or prettier than the other characters.
>male characters in manga/anime for male audiences are often manly/muscular, but love interests in josei/shojo manga and even otome gacha are bishies
You do realize manly and muscular are things that are considered attractive, right? Shonen heroes like that aren't fat or old. How are muscular and athletic men any less of an attainable standard for men than skinny and delicate men? Oh wait, I forgot that even though the whole initial point of this talk is that "any girl with unconventional tastes is literally a fervent advocate for ugly men and have 0 standards!" but when men actually put in effort and exercise then that's also not okay because "muh roid pigs!" But yeah, women who like dilfs and fatties are the insecure ones, and not the ones too scared to date gymrats… inb4 I get banned for this hot take kek
>There should not be any consideration of "talent" here.
Are you saying that consideration of talent shouldn't matter when casting actors or am I misunderstanding this?

No. 497957

>>497794
>Where are the stats? The day and night cycles? Anything approaching gameplay? I know renpy isn't super optimized for this sort of game
You can do all of that in Ren'py, some people for example use Ren'py in lieu of something like RPG Maker, these people are just lazy and don't care about the genre they're forcing themselves into.

No. 497965

>>497957
Which requires a lot of coding experience which for some reason, is lost on these people.

No. 497969

>>497965
It really doesn't. The Ren'py language is easy as piss and there's tons of step by step tutorials and free code to frankenstein to do exactly those things.

No. 497974

>>497565
Anon this is about this creature >>496329 do you seriously think he has good bone structure, hair and face KEK

No. 497977

>>497965
I agree that it really doesn't. I managed to figure that stuff out and more and I'm kind of retarded

No. 498037

>>497969
>>497977
I meant the more complex and less documented stuff. The renpy forums are free and open so anything you need is kinda there. Anything outside of that is pretty difficult to find like shaders or more niche renpy features that don't get much use.

No. 498048

>>497525
>remilia
kek wasnt there a speedrunner/esports tranny who changed his name to this and got popular as a "female esports player" and then 41%'d? i remember he also got insanely botched SRS too

No. 498062

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>>497794
>I really hate western devs calling their games "dating sims" when they have more in common with route based romance vns than actual dating sims.
AYRT and holy shit me too, it drives me insane. The Japanese call actual dating sims 恋愛シミュレーション or some variation of シミュレーション, and what we call "pure visual novels" are usually called ノベルゲーム (if they're romance-focused they attach 恋愛).

The classic otome example done in Ren'Py is RE:Alistair and its spiritual successor Backstage Pass. It's 100% possible and easy to make dating sims with Ren'Py, there's even a thing called "dating sim engine" someone made on the Lemmasoft forums to make it even easier, although I've never used it. (Though I agree with >>498037 in that things that haven't been done by others already can be really hard to achieve on your own if you lack programming knowledge.)

The most notorious scrote attempt at an actual OEL dating sim that I remember at the moment was Harem Protagonist by Starbeam, AKA Cuddlebeam. The guy made a Kickstarter and failed to deliver. To this day, there are still people complaining in the campaign's comments about the guy disappearing with the money and failing to finish the game (kek).
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/215870777/harem-protagonist
There's also a Let's Play thread on some brony forum where they make fun of one of the shitty builds that were released, but I'm sure you can find that thread easily if you google the game's name. Basically, it was full of bugs and extremely incomplete. It was an overwhelmingly ambitious project for just one guy who only had experience drawing fetish porn on deviantART (I've already posted some of his fine work in the bad fetish art thread).

If memory serves, I learned about this one from the now-defunct OELVN dev general on /vg/ many years ago.

No. 498065

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>>498037
That post specifically said stats and day/night cycles though. And I know people are allergic to reading it because it's kind of boring but the Ren'py documentation extensively covers pretty much everything you could want to do with the engine including shaders. https://www.renpy.org/doc/html/index.html

No. 498070

>>498062
Is the one wearing pants meant to be a tomboy or a trap? I assume trap because of the shitty bow attached to its head.

No. 498071

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>>498062
>only had experience drawing fetish porn on deviantART
Yeah I can tell…

No. 498072

>>497836
This thread isn't only about Japanese games so I'm still not sure why you focus on anime and then accuse me of considering Japanese media superior when I never even brought it up. This discussion started because of a character from a Western game. Just because I point out that average-looking characters with dad bods are pushed on women in the West doesn't mean that I think that only delicate anime boys are attractive, you're just making things up. Men self-inserting is precisely why male characters are often average, or middle-aged, or straight up ugly. This is not usually allowed for female characters, at least not for main characters or love interests. This is true even in games where the characters are invented, so the ugliness can't be explained by the need to choose male actors based on "talent". The type of manliness that is acceptable to men is the rugged, hairy, weathered type of guy and it's usually not women's ideal at all (at least not younger women), which is why they're more common in content for men. (Now of course most middle-aged women are into middle-aged men (note that the opposite isn't true) but that doesn't cancel out the double standard.) We can just agree to disagree, but you don't need to misconstrue my point. For example athletic isn't the same as roidpig, I'm sure you understand the difference and why women are usually into one and not the other. The average woman isn't into bodybuilders on steroids ime.

No. 498076

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>>498070
AFAIR there were no males, it's just a really low-effort "tomboy". She might've been a bit inspired by Rin from KS. Back then, troonshit and trapshit weren't as popular.

>>498071
He had to restrain himself there, otherwise he would've made her breasts even more gigantic kek. I think he actually said that, or some people pointed it out.
Also, the "foodie" blonde girl was supposed to be fat, and some backers actually got mad that he made her average instead. I believe he did it because part of his fetish is microwaists. You can see his horrifying "art" here to see what I mean: https://www.deviantart.com/cuddle-beam

No. 498078

>>498071
Literally no personality traits or design elements other than "haha booba"

No. 498081

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>>498062
I've never heard of this, but thank you for the laugh. That trailer was painful. There's a particular tone to a lot of these western games that I strongly dislike. It's present in Huniepop and Class of '09, too. I don't know what you'd call it.
>>498076
>the "foodie" blonde girl
I looked her up, and now I'm confused. It says she's foreign. Is she supposed to be French? Why is her name Japanese?

No. 498092

>>498081
>It's present in Huniepop and Class of '09, too. I don't know what you'd call it.
It's like when westerners found out about anime for the first time and tried to parody or copy it but it's still painfully western, unfunny and retarded. But this tone you speak of, I call it "western porn humor meets 00's western hentai jokes". Cuddlebeam is from Spain, so his humor might be affected by his own online porn "culture" as well.

No. 498138

>>498076
>she literally has a pink bow in hee hair but let's call her a tomboy because her hair is short and she doesn't have boobs bigger than her head
Do scrotes really?

No. 498257

>>498062
>Here, in this town, there are several beautyful, UNIQUE and exiting girls…
Yeah, very unique kek. I also don't like the weird pervy voice inflection on the word “exiting” while showing the loli character on screen.

No. 498435

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What are the worst kusoge names? i nominate this one

No. 498437

>>498435
>Ugly guys
>Sexy women
Nothing new here…

No. 498650

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>>498435
This title is so bad, I couldn't fully remember the name when looking up a picture.

No. 498653

>>498650
Did noralities drew this?

No. 498655

>>498650
All of these girls look grody.

No. 498656

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>>498650
>And They're Hot?!

No. 498666

>>498650
KEKKK is this real?

No. 498679

>>498650
Holy fuck my sides.
>>498653
It does kinda look like her art style doesn't it?

No. 498681

>>498650
Premise aside, was it really necessary to copy terrible light novel titles kek

No. 498685

>the queen bee mega bitch is the typical e-girl fakeboi
I'm not sure who this is unintentionally roasting but this feels like an unintentional roast kek.

No. 498689

>>498685
>Makes the queen bee mega bitch the most attractive
What did xe mean by this

No. 498691

>>498650
None of these guys stick out to me as hot. Well girls, but even then still painfully mid.

No. 498692

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>>498691
Gendies usually don't draw attractive characters, they did a good job of accidentally giving the most stereotypical fakebois possible though.

No. 498716

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>>498650
I'm curious about the sale figures of these EVNs. There's a ton of art devs churning them out because its easy, but do they actually go anywhere?

Even if there's no profit, I've never see a fanbase being built on these games- the most discussion you will see are the controversial ones like Validate and Boyfriend Dungeon.

My guess is coomshit and ironic dating sims (like the KFC one) rake up the most profit.

No. 498738

>>498716
I don't think I've seen any gendie-focused vns ever get popular, they're usually ""passion projects"" and get a minor following like the troonshit discussed earlier if they're lucky. Anything popular with some gendie shit has other factors going for it. Look at Touchstarved's kickstarter success or Our Life 2's patreon numbers. Some popular western romance games have gendie options for the player, but otherwise have normal guys as love interests (A Date with Death). They're basically one degree away from being otome games, but TiFs want gender validation and try to make "amare games" a thing. TiMs don't bother with "amare games". Even if they tried, their games would stick out for being so moidy in nature.

No. 498777

>>498685
>>498689
Deep down, TIFs just cannot shake their NLOG programming kek
>>498435
It's so corny when Western creators try to make the title sound translated from Japanese when they're not even trying to capture the Japanese VN vibe
>>498081
That feeling is just the desire to tell a story through cynicism and irony rather than passion. You can always tell the developer has very little actual lived experience.

No. 498784

>>498716
Would coomshit aimed at women net some dollars or are women to cucked mentally to be horny?

No. 498793

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>>498062
hooooly shit

No. 498840

>>498685
Holy shit that music loop is terrible. "Elias" is such an eyesore.
>Definitely 100% certain of your identity and not questioning a thing
So this is also a ROGD simulator kek

>>498692
98% of TIFs can't draw so even if the design would be appealing otherwise, their poor art skills will ruin it.

No. 498892

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I’ve posted about disliking Our Wonderland before in another thread, but because of how bad it is, I felt weird posting in the visual novel thread. I’ve always wanted to complain about it. I apologize for the length and anything I misremember, but I’ve never gotten the chance to air out my grievances. Here are some details I wrote down at the time alongside anything else I remember:
>Main characters are an asexual moid (Iggy) who thinks his friends all want to rape or fuck him (he’s not wrong), Blind Cartman (Genzou), a rapist TiF (Gidget), a GnC woman who surprisingly does not troon out and instead murders her infant daughter to enter Wonderland and power the Baby Murder Tree (Bucks), and a cannibal with possible autism (Orlam).
>The plot focuses on a group of childhood friends who used to visit a world called “Wonderland,” which is accessed with a child’s blood. They have not been able to enter Wonderland in many years because they’re all in their 30s. One day, Wonderland reopens, and Iggy must figure out why it reopened and how he managed to ruin every single one of his friends’ lives throughout the course of their friendship. It’s kind of like It’s a Wonderful Life, but if George Bailey killing himself would’ve actually improved everyone’s lives. I’m not joking. Iggy is canonically responsible for Genzou going blind, Bucks marrying a moid who drives her to alcoholism, Gidget abandoning her greatest passion to pursue a dead-end career in modeling, and Orlam being bullied.
>One of the characters’ middle names is Dagwud. I do not know why this was significant enough for me to include in my notes, but I did. I didn’t even write down whose middle name it is.
>All of Genzou’s lines are written with the same cadence and style as those fake “snappy comeback” tumblr posts from like 2012, and you can tell the author thinks this is clever and charming.
>The writing is very fanfiction-esque. I don’t think Iggy ever refers to his hair as anything but “my curls,” and characters are constantly described as having phlegm in their throats.
>Bucks comes from a traditional Christian family, but for some reason, they force her to wear a suit on her wedding day and her moid to wear a dress?
>Weird theme where the women are all violent or rapists. The men can be violent and/or sex pests, but the women are needlessly cruel. Gidget only stops being a rapist when she troons out. Bucks is a bad mother besides the baby murder thing, and her husband has to raise their child alone.
>Have you wondered yet why Genzou is blind? Well, he fell down the stairs as a child because he got a boner one time.
>In a flashback, Iggy gets mad at Gidget for being good at coding because it’s for boys. Is this presented as sexism within male-dominated fields, which serves as an explanation for why girls end up trooning out? NO! It’s presented as fucked up because Gidget was a boy all along, and Iggy unintentionally misgendered her. Gidget ends up dressing more girly and adopting an entirely different persona because she believes Iggy will not accept her as a male.
>Iggy acknowledges it was fucked up to say even before she troons out, but it pisses me off because it retroactively absolves Iggy of his misogyny. If Gidget hadn’t trooned out, this plot point would be fine, but it’s worsened by the added layer of Iggy’s sexism being wrong because he did it to a TiF. I’m not articulating this well, but it makes me so angry when I think about it.
>Iggy is the most raped victim in the world, and the rape subplot is perpetrated by the only biologically female love interest.
>I can’t overemphasize how many times Gidget tries to rape Iggy. She has the exact logic of an incel where she feels entitled to him, and it’s framed as her trying to “correct” him. Meanwhile, both the moid who bullied another moid into suicide and the moid who eats people are perfectly understanding of boundaries.
>Orlam is the most menhera character in this fucking story. He has daddy issues, DRINKS BLEACH (he goes to make Iggy coffee, apparently drinks a container of bleach while in the kitchen, and then just starts vomiting everywhere while Iggy drinks the coffee), is still pining over his abusive ex (Genzou), self-harms, has bulimia, and uses several people as emotional crutches throughout the plot.
>Also worth noting when Orlam’s mom killed herself, Genzou bullied him about it for the rest of high school. We get the line, “suicide is genetic,” which absolutely took me out when I read it. While this was happening, Genzou was using Orlam as a replacement for Iggy sexually.
>I just realized I never explained the cannibalism thing. Orlam is the king of Wonderland, and it’s revealed he’s cooking the troublesome human residents and feeding them to his friends without their knowledge.
>During Orlam’s route, he cooks Genzou alive, and to get his good ending, Iggy has to choose to eat Genzou.
>Iggy finds a bleach lake in Orlam’s route, and subsequently decides he has to drink it to make the pain go away.
>There is a scene of Iggy jerking off while thinking about his friends as children (he’s not jerking off TO them as kids, but he’s thinking about them to distract himself while jerking off).
>Iggy has a panic attack while rubbing sunscreen on Gidget because he’s touching too close to her boobs. This is played for horror and angst.
>Gidget transforms into a spider-woman creature and gives birth to eggs fathered by dolls. She starts stabbing Iggy with her spider leg, and it’s written kind of like a sex scene? This culminates in her cutting off all her hair and announcing she’s non-binary. I am not exaggerating when I say that everything she hates about being a woman is the result of societal expectations. It is such an unambiguous depiction of a woman trooning out due to misogyny that I’m shocked it wasn’t intentional.
>If you’re wondering why I barely talk about Bucks, it’s because she’s basically a nonentity. She exists to kill everyone with an ax at the end of each route. All character development she receives is in relation to her husband.
>Feminism win! The Baby Murder Tree is a woman! You know, to really drive home the idea that every single woman in this VN is evil.
>The Baby Murder Tree’s main function is as a wish granter powered by Baby Murder. She feeds off of the wishes of children, and feels betrayed because everyone (except Iggy) has lost their innocence.
>It turns out Bucks’s infant daughter did not die. Instead, she’s been kept in a half-dead state inside the Baby Murder Tree this whole time. She’s been sending psychic messages begging Iggy to put her out of her misery throughout the story. The infant erases her own existence to ensure the other characters get a second try from childhood to have a happy life. Genzou still has his boner-stairs incident, though, so he’s blind in the good timeline. Sucks for him.
I didn’t even get into all the weird pseudo-sexual shit (characters being forcibly bathed and dressed by other characters, Gidget trying to cut off Iggy’s penis with scissors, the narration implying Gidget rapes Iggy’s corpse, Orlam trying to cut off Iggy’s penis so he can eat it (I mean eat it like a hot dog. This is not a euphemism for oral sex), Iggy getting felt up by tentacles and pissing himself, Gidget making a harem of Iggy dolls that she informs Iggy she fucks, or the background orgy CG). I don’t want to make this sound like the incest VN posted earlier in the thread. It’s not. It has character development and relationships that, in more competent hands, would have been worth exploring. There were concepts I liked (it does a cool meta thing in Chapter 5), and I didn’t hate a couple of the characters. It’s nearly 20 hours long, it has a staggering number of CGs, and there are animations at the end of every chapter, so the writer has a lot of love for this project. I can envision a world in which this would’ve been good, and that makes it so much more frustrating. The writer had a story to tell, and it makes me sad that story had to be like this.

No. 498900

>>498692
>The vast majority are from OELVNs

Keeeek.

No. 498910

>>496329
>>496329
>>496329
I don't really have high hopes for it while the og game had its flaws i heard some things might heavily change.

Hoping she makes lawrence bonus route if it does well.

No. 498915

>>498910
adding onto this i really don't believe gato's current style does it her character design any justice. Not a big fan of strade's current look. Ren's new look is okay.

Honestly believe Tpof is a pretty weak game imo.

but considering how gato is rumored to be a bit cow-ish it makes sense

No. 498975

>>498915
>gato is rumored to be a bit cow-ish
She definitely is, I remember one tumblr ask where she said that she isn't satisfied with her husband lately, so she decided to identify as asexual and start a poly relationship with Electricpuke instead of coming to a conclusion like any normal person that you just don't have any feelings with your partner anymore. This made me kek so hard
>>498910
>Hoping she makes lawrence bonus route if it does well
I really hope she will not ruin my husbando

No. 498982

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>>492808
I cannot shake off the feeling that this character was created as a husbandu version of the guy from Hatred.

No. 498985

>>498982
i thought this said HETERO kek

No. 498988

>>498065
I hate how a literal 2d porn game made more out of it's use of renpy than so called gendie games kek.

No. 498990

>>498784
>Would coomshit aimed at women net some dollars
kusoges like nukani and wthb make shit loads of moneh. So yeah, its just that no one is willing to try. I wish there was a bigger software doujin culture by women.

No. 498991

Anyone remembers demonophobia?

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>>498892
>finally, a game with rapestacies
>it looks like this
its not fair, and why does iggy look like lois griffin. Thanks for the summary nonny, it was really interesting to read. Why do the characters have hideous ears like this? i thought they were goblins or something at first.

No. 498999

>>498997
It looks so freaking mid jesus

No. 499008

>>498982
kek i thought that too

No. 499013

>>498997
Are they supposed to be mice…?

No. 499031

>>498784
No, but that won't change anything because scrotes will make sure of it. I've seen a french lady make a dating sim with hot buff dudes and moids dogpiled her over it. There are definitely women who want to make vns that actually appeal to straight/bi girls but the backlash from whiney moids is an issue.
>>498991
Urgh, yeah. There was never a need for this degen shit

No. 499079

>>499031
>I've seen a french lady make a dating sim with hot buff dudes
Where is it? Did it get cancelled? I would be so delighted to play it but I guess women can't have nice things kek…

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>>499079
It honestly doesn't look good nona, see picrel. It's called LoveOption. The art isn't great. But if you speak french, I HIGHLY recommend ZiziCaca Légendre instead (yes, légendre, not légende), it's very silly and unprofessional but super funny.

No. 499175

>>499173
Moids dogpiled this? Kek why did they even care?

No. 499177

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>>499175
Idk, moids are retards. Either that or the creator got a handful of them whining and exagerated her story.

While I'm at it, I'm shocked that nobody has brought up Monster Prom and its bullshit yet. Also kek one of the enbies' last name is "Belladonna", literally "pretty woman" in italian.
>pun with sister and "cis"
That shit pun is noticeable in text, not audibly. So when you consider that the joke is a part of character dialog, it makes zero sense.

No. 499180

>>499177
God this artstyle is so ass.

No. 499181

>>498892
Reading your post was so entertaining kek. I skimmed past this game on itch a few times while searching for something to play and I didn't realize it was so batshit insane, I got "wholesome" inoffensive vibes from it somehow. I kind of want to play it but the awful art style is filtering me hard.

No. 499209

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I'd like to preface that I haven't read either of these, but my personal cow is very involved in the snoot community, so I've seen a lot.
Aside from the typical pathetic shit we can point out about romance VNs, like the school settings, wish fulfillment, etc, 4chan's "wholesome" hits have gone back to disabled girls twice. I wonder, since the fandoms never cite back to dialogue and the community is filled with coom, if it's all just lazy, instrumental support. I'll find your cane for you. I'll help push you around on your wheelchair. I'll help you up. How fucking revering.
Over at snoot/wani, their fandom jokes, such as disability, threatening ryona to the blonde leather biker coat pink bully dinosaur, treating the scalies they're meant to grow close to as dumb animals, general /hmofa/ggotry, the socially anxious puppeteer girl with a racist puppet or whatever and calling triceratops "triggas" based on the fact that volcano high had a black triceratops girl. Not even when another triceratops in the room in the fanart/shitposts about it, just fictional debates between characters on the morality of saying it. The one other "black" triceratops I've seen multiple times in snoot-adjacent content is a fucking Riley Boondocks reference because an exaggerated stereotype is what makes these penis-having homunculi feel safe or some shit. Finding "trigga" being spouted everywhere in the community, being confused, and then finding out that it truly was for triceratops hit me with a scrote-aspergic nuke I'll never understand.
What else makes it a kusoge? The art is shit. It's unimaginative. It seems like the prose is shit, although VN writers have never been good at that. It's carried by the legacy that a 4moid can get off his ass and make something, and the community's porn. It's fucking shit. Puffed-up, non-entity, awful.

>>498991
Possible ot but the sudden happening of Demonophobia/other tryhard guro sidescrollers, saya no uta, and alicesoft shit getting such non-fanbases (people who just want to let others know they can watch (cartoon) pedophilia and gore) is more annoying than the possibility of them having genuine ones. Shit like Gore Screaming Show are getting re-newed, so I assume they're only being fed. Aside from all the misogyny, violence is just the cheap path to aesthetic novelty. It pisses me off so much. It's so lame.

No. 499210

>>498892
BRUH I knew I recognized the art style I’ve talked to this person about their gay art before. I always thought they were super PC and wholesome (and honestly kinda fragile) never did I imagine they would make this kind of game. Thanks for the write up, this feels like a story she made in middle school and just never let go. I’m tempted to give it a try too kek.

No. 499215

>>499173
Kekk there is something so funny about a guy with a stubble and sparkly anime eyes. She should have tried a more realisitc style tbh. The anime style is moe suited for sparkly bishies with toxic colored hair. I am sorry moids dogpilled here, this game isnt even that threatening and the guys look average tbh. I want to see men react to what the hell is bad.

No. 499234

>>498975
Wait they were dating?? No wonder they had a falling out like that. That’s why you don’t date your co workers. The only one from the btd team(?) that isn’t a total failure is the one who made rire as they just vibe on tumblr and create their ocs.

Last thing I heard about Gato was her getting accused of racism bc her old art got discovered or some shit now she’s practically hard to contact iirc

No. 499235

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>>499209
4moids will crap on gendie art then turn around and draw like picrel which hardly looks different maybe aside from not having completely atrocious colors
>>499234
I found the post with the callouts for the most recent drama. Her mod said something kind of insensitive and the whole thing blew up IIRC. Nazi Strade prefacing the most milquetoast nitpicky accusations ever is kind of funny to me not gonna lie. Female socialization encouraging tearing each apart over minor transgressions is one hell of a drug, meanwhile scrotes are busy making vile shit in relative peace. https://x.com/renhanasgf/status/1752998296757428504

No. 499237

>>499209
>the snoot community
The community around Snoot Game is so weird to me. I've not purposefully looked into it, but Snoot Game and Goodbye Volcano High were inescapable for a while. I hate the way they drew the dinosaurs every bit as much as Goodbye Volcano High. Both are weird-looking and the characters look nothing like dinosaurs. I remember scrotes talking about how Snoot Game "fixed" the dinosaurs, but did it really? They just look like anime girls with some dinosaur-ish additions. Having the protagonist in Wani and Snoot as some faceless, bald cutout of a man is also so off-putting and weird. I get it's for self-insertion purposes, but it looks awful. Do you have any examples of lesser-known community drama you'd be willing to share?
>>499177
>Monster Prom
I've had this recommended to me, and I haven't wanted to waste time or energy on it because of how ugly the male characters are. It seems like another quirky OELVN that tries to appeal to the widest audience possible in the vein of Dream Daddy.

No. 499241

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>>499235
Did she draw this? i have no idea why her fanbase is okay with the characters being murderers and fat but draw the line at nazis. The fanbase and devs of the turbo edgy maledom vns always being the most sensitive snowflakes is fucking hilarious.

No. 499244

>>498994
KEK new reaction image unlocked

No. 499262

>>499235
>4moids will crap on gendie art then turn around and draw like picrel which hardly looks different
Doesnt it kinda have to look at least a little similiar to work as a parody game?

No. 499267

>>496329
>>499241
Yeah thats the one, pretty sure there was also a drawing a ren that ppl claimed to be a racist stereotype but i also heard that there was some drama involving a mod of hers on her discord server for something which caused her to delete most of her socials.

I can't really say i'm surprised at gato's fanbase acting like this bc she's been super assistant of shit like kids not existing in her vn's for some reason but at the same time it's like when half of your characters rapists i doubt half of them would care about the ages of their victims.

No. 499298

>>499241
the tumblr has long since seeped in after it was born from that disgusting art style. it permeates everything. it says, "we want to explore edgy kinks in a safe manner via fiction but we're insecure so we still need to scold people for things we deem offensive or bigoted." gatobob also had a notice on all her socials that people who were under 18 were not allowed to look at her work lol.

No. 499543

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>>499241
Literally picrel. Also this art was made in like 2016

No. 499544

>>499543
I was so worried when I saw this on the front page kek

No. 499545

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>>499543
I love your pic.

No. 499546

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>>499543
Samefag, she recently made a response about the nazi thing

No. 499550

>>499546
Is it bad that I didn't know those were dog whistles either kek

No. 499560

>>499550
Nah, that’s the point of them. They’re supposed to be something innocuous to everyone who isn’t a part of whatever group it’s for. “yuo” is a dog whistle, but it’s also just a common misspelling. The only people who recognize them are nazis or kids who’re online too much and see too many xitter callouts.

No. 499579

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>>499209
>4chan's "wholesome" hits have gone back to disabled girls twice
God I hate when they're like that. "(Insert pic/footage of anime boy being romantic with a disabled girl) this is all we men want! We're not degens, this is literally men's dream!" Nice try, but no it's not. And even if it was, you really just want a vulnerable girl who depends on you because your worthless ass needs to feel needed. I've argued with scrotes like that before and their rebuttal is that there's nothing opportunistic or perverse about those romances, but that's because the characters know each-other, had their love story and are together. You, Richard, are some dick online seeing a man with a girl in a wheelchair and it made your pea-sized brain bounce around your thick skull.

No. 499580

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>>499579
You mean this tweet?

No. 499583

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>>499546
>drawing ugly oc in nazi outfit bad, this is idolizing nazis somehow
>drawing same ugly oc kidnapping and torturing women good, this is not normalizing abuse towards women and idolizing misogynistic abusive moids
I have no problem with gato making her weird cringe edgy vn, but what pisses me off is that these women always take the moral high ground regarding fiction and how it reflects on reality, but then proceed to draw things that would be morally reprehensible and illegal irl. Also the last sentence is extremely cringe, what the fuck does that have to do with women having an uniform fetish. These pickmes always moralfag towards other women's fetishes and then draw the most rancid shit you can imagine. Its also funny that these history illiterate retards only have a problem with the SS uniforms, meanwhile literally all soldiers from all countries involved in war commited crimes against humanity, raped women and children and killed people. Reminds me of that time Kaneoya sachiko was cancelled for drawing SS uniforms and nazis being humilliated, even though she would also draw tons of characters wearing WWII japanese uniforms and the rising sun flag, but the gendies that cancelled her didnt have a problem with this because they dont know history beyond ''nazis bad''.

No. 499584

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>>499237
>Do you have any examples of lesser-known community drama you'd be willing to share?
ayrt, The defining thing about these games it that they come a place of hate. Anonymous toxicity is prevalent and just meant to be expected, but all that toxicity is just in the form of dino waifuwars.
Aside from outsiders taking interest being taken aback that Olivia (from wani) was drawn by her creator typing a racial slur on imageboards I believe (typical scrote humour,) there's not been much. Even the outsiders have the audacity to go "well it's expected, it's 4chan, duuude." So it's abstained from any genuine critique due to getting le obscure niche underground socmed points. The biggest community shakeup was simply volcano high itself finally coming out. Comparative memes and actual parodies about the plot instead of a bastardisation. It all seemed pretty pathetic, like the one male character that's gay threatens them, and they take pride with turning him into this ideal wingman stoner dudebro in snoot (picrel.)
The creative community is far from a workspace. I have the impression they are just unconditionally jerking eachother off with no critique of what off-model trash is being drawn.

>>499262
>Doesnt it kinda have to look at least a little similiar to work as a parody game?
ntayrt. I'm nit-picking your choice of words, but they're not capable of passion to make it a parody, anon. It's a bastardisation initially meant to provoke the other creators ( the "place of hate" mentioned above.) Volcano high looks a lot more crisp and cute than snoot (and wani,) and honestly how rounded and awkward some characters look in it are endearing to me. Compare the two and you'll see the obvious vacuum-sock clothing physics and coomer proportions seeping into snoot sprites, it's grotesque. Their hateboners simply made it come to this. It's partially true though, there is pattern coalition autism required artstyle relplication, just enough so that they can fap uninterrupted.

>>499579
They're incapable of natural and effortful emotional, interest or the mutual admiration-based bonding required for good relationships. They can't let go of their obsession over the weak and disadvantaged, whether it be disability (the subject of this media >>499209 >>499580 ,) ethnic groups (jokes about the intent of saying a racial slur, fucking loser shit.) and plenty of others.

No. 499587

>>499584
I've heard and played volcano high, but is wani the sequel? never heard of it in the context of 4chan games.

No. 499588

>>499587
Go to /trash/ and I'm sure you'll find /hmofa/gs mentioning it. No, wani is made by some guy as his own tacky dino-dating sim that takes place in a similar universe. Volcano high was the real original thing. The snootgame sub also has waniposting.

No. 499643

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>>499583
most weebs are retarded and ignorant, they think the rising sun is just le quirky japanese flag/symbolism, as they aren't capable of realizing it is the asian equivalent of the swastika. it reminds me when Mogeko/Funamusea (another prolific kusoge maker) made the rising sun a banner on her website and her korean fans seethed so much the bitch banned their IPs forever. the tumblr callouts on her rarely addressed this kek.

No. 499645

>>499643
I'm surprised people were so adamant for cancelling her on everything But the rising flag. She's literally a Japanese nationalist but they're more angry about her fetishes. It's hilarious.

No. 499657

>>499643
i don't play the games but the art is cute. why are they kusoge? sorry for spoonfeed request

No. 499658

>>499657
She made a game where the whole plot of the game was to molest a girl plus some other pedo shit shes made.

No. 499661

File: 1748107422924.png (1.24 MB, 800x800, no idea how people jack off to…)

>>499657
NTA I wouldn't call of them full on kusoge, they're just rpg maker games that haven't aged as well as games like Ib.

No. 499734

>>499643
I've always felt off about her with all the molesting girls jokes and rape being a theme in her games but I did not know about the rising sun shit. It really completes her batshit insane image.

No. 499750

File: 1748123934731.png (78.8 KB, 640x480, Gray Garden.png)

>>499658
NTA but oh my god. I didn't know anything about this dev or the contents of her games. I only ever saw her games mentioned alongside things like Ib, Off, and Yume Nikki, so I assumed they were similar in appeal. I've always loved the aesthetic of Gray Garden, so that's disappointing. I never got around to playing any of her games, and I guess I never will.

No. 499756

>>499750
anon the word "mogeko" literally means "to grope" it was pretty apparent from the get go.also i maybe wrong on this but im pretty sure she got doxxed by the sharty too no?

No. 499762

>>499756
>anon the word "mogeko" literally means "to grope" it was pretty apparent from the get go
I don't know if this was unclear in my post, but I knew very little about her, and I only ever heard the name Funamusea. Is there a reason she changed her name? I would assume due to controversy online? I'd only heard of Wadanohara and Gray Garden, which I often saw mentioned with stuff like Ib. I just never looked into it more deeply.

No. 499765

>>499750
her art is cute and her writing skills are ok, the only game of hers that's truly a kusoge is Mogeko Castle and only because it aged like shit. but she has a terrible personality, constantly drives out her remaining fans (last year she blocked the entire of latin america too) and couldn't stop herself to add a pointless sexual abuse scene in The Gray Garden.

>>499756
yes, the sharty doxx confirmed she is actually middle aged or near so.

No. 499772

>>499765
The sharty doxxing both her and the woman who made that Coffin Incest game makes me terrified to put my own retarded edgy kusoge with "problematic" content on Steam.

No. 499781

>>499772
you're putting too much faith on them, both doxx couldn't actually reveal their names or something relevant about them, they only got their nationalities because it was beyond obvious. like i'm kind of psycho and already knew years ahead that Mogeko wasn't that young .

you can assume this kind of sharty doxxers are just like their tumblrinas/shittokkers/twittard counterparts, bored teenagers trying to take down anything they don't like.

No. 499788

>>499772
Delete any information that can be linked to your real identity
>>499781
>both doxx couldn't actually reveal their names or something relevant about them, they only got their nationalities because it was beyond obvious
I think they managed to find Nemlei's and her husband's names and they found out the company they're working at?

No. 499798

>>499788
holy shit you're right, they really did. but Nemlei made a big mistake there by linking her game with her company. Mogeko has like a 20 year trajectory and despite having haters all around the world, her real name hasn't been revealed once. it's a matter of having good opsec, learning to remain silent and being paranoid of everything.

No. 499802

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>>499788
Did she get doxxed, or was that this situation? Not saying you’re lying of course I just wanna get it straight

No. 499806

>>499802
Probably? I heard she turned out to be Finnish and has husband and kids and she has some business company

No. 499807

>>499802
nta and won't spoonfeed but the doxx is on the sharty wiki, they got the full doxx months later

No. 499867

>>499643
>her korean fans seethed so much the bitch banned their IPs forever.
kek that's honestly a pretty good way to deal with haydurrs

No. 499871

>>499765
>yes, the sharty doxx confirmed she is actually middle aged or near so.
it took the sharty a whole doxx to realize the obvious? she's been making games since 2012.
>>499772
yeah its concerning, the sharty always doxxes women too, while cocksucking male artists that draw cp and ryona. Like that faggot mossa they love so much, despite him being an admitted pedo who's drawn artwork based on the murder of an irl child. But what else can you expect from terminally only death fats that spam cp.

No. 499928

>>499871
NTA but AFAIK those fuckers only doxxed Nemlei because they thought she was a tranny, I think. And the game only entered their radar because many scrotes on the imageboard loved it, which annoyed other users (at least according to the wiki article that you mentioned)

No. 499969

>>499658
>>499734
christ i looked up the mogeko game endings and the first bad end is her literally getting raped with digusting sound effects to boot wtf is wrong with her? i'm rescinding my comment about her art being cute, it's wasted on this shit

No. 500043

>>499658
>>499643
Continuing the trend of weird pedos also being nationalists/nazis.

No. 500133

File: 1748190343152.png (Spoiler Image,121.69 KB, 1920x708, h20.png)

So, does anybody remember Hyper Danganronpa H2O: Abandon All Hope?

No. 500150

>>493215
Cosmo and Wanda in the bottom right corner?

No. 500205

>>496329
>>499583
Honestly me either.

I think what confuses me with creators like Gato and many others is how they often make the edgiest content yet either they themselves or the community around them are parading around morals. Thats one of my issues around the murdersim side of the vn community, they are fine with dark themes if it fits their idea of dark and edgy.

No. 500215

File: 1748202357933.jpg (15.89 KB, 256x256, 106460.jpg)

>>500133
I've heard of it, but I never played it because the art is… well, you can see kek. Have you played it? What was it like?

No. 500234

>>500215

Be glad I never played it, but here's a video showcasing how bad the game and its creator were.

No. 500252

>>500205
that actually reminds me of an issue where yandere sim clones would run into where the (theoretical lol) gameplay would revolve around bullying and tormenting various minorities because of the commitment to having a diverse cast

No. 500255

>>500205
Makes me laugh when they're cool with women being raped or murdered in fiction, but rage about everything else edgy. Especially if it's a male lead that gets victimized kek.

No. 500272

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Somehow, nobody mentionned Anonymous Agony yet

No. 500283

>>500272
Because Anonymous Agony is a kamige, Haze is soooo cool and literally me!

No. 500290

>>499643
to be honest, wada and the deep sea was really not all that. it got lined up with yume nikki because the inspiration was obviously there, but why did this in particular get popular when there’s thousands of yume nikki copy cats that faded into obscurity? and funa hasnt made a game in 5+ years.

No. 500291

>>499871
this. this is why i honestly cant hate funa too much because the crowd who is overly against her are 90% pissy scrotes

No. 500299

File: 1748215742476.png (2.02 MB, 1266x1070, Screenshot 2025-05-25 at 7.26.…)

On the topic of fanganronpas, there's another RPGmaker one called Live or Die. Terrible writing aside, looking at the art and the "favorite song" sections of the character bios makes me think the creator is a time traveler from 2010 trying their best to adapt to modern fandom/gendie culture.
https://drliveordie.carrd.co/#about

No. 500308

>>500272
this shit was so fucking ass but we had no idea how much worse it could get. i cant believe im reflecting on it fondly now

No. 500311

>>497314
I'm surprised that the troons reading this haven't made fun of this shit writing. This is like one of those cringy excerpts from booktok that get passed around.

No. 500313

File: 1748216747990.png (2.77 MB, 1647x1290, Screenshot 2025-05-25 164032.p…)

>>500299
Is this shit supposed to take place in 2013 or something? Why does this feel like the 2010s equivalent of how zoomers who were born in 2008 portray y2k stuff they weren't alive for

No. 500315

>>500313
>Is this shit supposed to take place in 2013 or something?
Don't think so. It's supposed to take place after DRV3 so either the creator didn't play the canon games or they're just that out of touch.

No. 500332

>>500311
They only make fun of booktok books because women like them

No. 500335

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>>500311
It is really, truly, unfathomably funny looking at the comments on the itch.io page. Nothing but glowing praise.

No. 500443

>>500272
I can't believe he got full voiceacting for this thing. This autist devotion to make his OC the savior of children is kinda sweet

No. 500463

File: 1748248332019.jpg (93.3 KB, 616x353, badend.jpg)

I'm surprised NomnomNami's games haven't been mentioned. They're not even entertainingly bad. They're just boring.

No. 500467

File: 1748248967919.jpg (132.52 KB, 616x353, capsule_616x353.jpg)

Hello Charlotte must qualify. it looks like a heap of trash.

No. 500469

>>499871
>yeah its concerning, the sharty always doxxes women too, while cocksucking male artists that draw cp and ryona
They doxxed dorontabi and other moid pedo artists though? and hopefully that Korean pedoshit moid soon

No. 500470

>>500252
I think it's been scrubbed from the internet now, but I'm pretty sure one clone called Limerence (cancelled, shockingly) had a troon rival who you could arrange to get beaten up by bullies KEK. People lost their shit over this, because a game about stalking and brutally murdering teenagers is fine, but god forbid you do it TRANSPHOBICALLY! Many of these clones had another, less obvious issue where people on the dev team would make their donut steel OCs into rivals and then get upset because, you know, the rivals have to die.

No. 500472

>>500272
I physically can't hate this game, it's too sovlfvl

No. 500475

I don't care if it's supposed to be ironic. It costs $15, which is insane.

No. 500480

>>500475
>Ironic
I wish these people would just embrace their fetish already. It's not even that weird as far as degeneracy goes. Also
>The very very obvious favouritism for the pill bottle therapist kek
>Based Priscilla torturing schizo moids
>Was that ending supposed to imply that the "mysterious and motherly roommate" rapes the protagonist?

No. 500497

>>498991
This game is so trash it shouldn't even be mentioned here since it's below every other game in this thread, no music, controls barely work too. Gore porn games are all trash besides the shock value they produce, i don't even know how men can masturbate and play it at the same time

No. 500505

>>500497
I wouldn't be surprised if most of the assets were stolen too.

No. 500506

>>498991
I'm sorry but the death where a massive demon punches you is so stupid and underwhelming that it made me kek. Men are so autistic.

No. 500508

>>500506
Theres a chinese moid out there who fapped to this pixel ryona kek

No. 500510

>>500469
>They doxxed dorontabi
Why are you lying, they didnt.

No. 500518

>>500510
Tayrt my bad kek I might gotten confused him with another Korean pedo they outed (who was also a blue archive fag) they somewhat did but Korean feminists were faster in finding out where he lived i think they're trying to find his new address though

No. 500525

>>500510
>>500469
offtopic so I'd suggest going to the art salt thread if you wanna continue this, but It's minus8 they doxxed, the guy behind the Ankha porn video that became a tiktok meme. They said they doxxed him for drawing lolicon and for admitting to being a pedophile in a depressingly deranged way but at the same time he is the only korean pedo moid who actually stopped drawing CP and supposedly went to therapy for it, so I think they doxxed him simply because he is an obnoxious coomer who draws sexy waifu versions of everything.

No. 500791

>>500467
I didn't hate the first game, but the second came of as extremely 2deep4u (haven't played the third). I don't know how to explain well, but you know those buzzwords/symbolism tropes that will occasionally get popular in the dark academia side of tumblr and suddenly you have a bunch of dark academia tumblrinas LARPing the same poetics? Like "cannibalism as a methafor for love", pomegranate symbolism, I think some months ago there was something about dogs idfk, etc. Hello Charlotte reminds me of those types of posts.
Whenever I see a Hello Charlotte fan talk about the game it ALWAYS sounds like the Rick and Morty copy pasta (just less impolite) kek.
I'm surprised I don't see that many people talk badly about it.

No. 501263

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Horror kusoge is low hanging fruit, but I discovered this game while trying to look through the yuri tag https://avdossow.itch.io/a-house-for-alesa-remake

No. 501266

File: 1748398429573.png (2.15 MB, 1280x2092, are they okay.png)

>>501263
I have bad horror movie addiction and I'm not sure if I want to extend it to games yet

No. 501267

>>499871
>while cocksucking male artists that draw cp and ryona. Like that faggot mossa they love so much
Since when did they like mossa? Are you just making stuff up? They just dox anyone they want for fun, including male lolicon artist

No. 501272

File: 1748399149959.png (Spoiler Image,972 KB, 1105x604, mclmd.png)

>>492841
>>492873
>>493284
>>493328
Late but it brings me joy to see this vile troon's 2deep4u wank material get shitted on by other women kek. He's been my personal cow for a while.

>>493373
Holy heat damage.

No. 501297

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>>501263
Somehow these comments are still annoying even when the subject matter is coomslop.

No. 501308

>>500133
I remember laughing at this and the creator (who seemed to be an actual gay man and not a fakeboi strangely) a lot, they were super braggy about being "the only finished english fangan" as if making world's laziest cases with ms paint art is somehow worth being smug over.

Fangans in general are pretty bad and I say this as someone who loves danganronpa.

No. 501309

>>500463
Starry flowers has the honor of being with Class of 09 as my lowest rated VN on VNDB though at a 1/10.
Jerry loving these games is funny to me though.

No. 501314

>>500290
I've never seen anyone line up Wada with Yume Nikki honestly. They're completely different things. They are made with rpgmaker so they're the same type of game, but so are Ib, Witch's House, End Roll (one of Omori's inspirations apparently) and all the other pixel games with horror themes. I don't think Wada was inspired by Yume Nikki at all.

No. 501360

>>501263
>>501266
Surprised its not a troon.

No. 501362

>>501267
>Since when did they like mossa?
they constantly spam his femwojak art. They also literally have a loli mascot called soylita and used to host daisy's destruction and other cp in their wiki.

No. 501374

>>500313
Zoomers were alive for 2013 though, they're born between 1999 and 2012. That being said, maybe the person who drew that atrocity was born in like 2011 and was a baby during that era which would kinda be the same thing
>>501362
It kills me how 4chan, Sharty and Kiwifarms will have this heated rivalry when at the end of the day they're all the same faggots with the same mental illnesses and pedophilia. I used to post on 4chan and sharty as well as on some 8chan ripoff they made because the original was down (I didn't know 8chan was the most pedophilic of them all) and I lasted like a month before stopping. They're just unbearable.

No. 501375

>>501374
>It kills me how 4chan, Sharty and Kiwifarms will have this heated rivalry
The truth hurts. They dislike each other because it's like looking into a very unflattering mirror.

No. 501379

File: 1748434674952.jpg (29.68 KB, 528x704, 1000036571.jpg)

Are shitty FNAF clones acceptable itt?

No. 501380

>>501379
Fuck FNAF for ruining indie horror games forever

No. 501392

>>501380
They don't even try to hide it, every single "mascot horror" project, whether it's a game or analogue horror series, blatantly copies the FNAF lore. They'll make a few minor tweaks (and probably make it edgier) but it's always the same fundamental story.
>This toy company/food place with mascot characters was beloved by kids all over the world. But wait! People go missing there! Including the child of somebody on staff! It turns out the owner was making the products from children's hyper realistic blood/body parts/souls, oh no, now we have to stop Not-Afton (who has become an inhuman entity) before he gets away with it!
>Starring: the Circus Baby ripoff who starts out as an ally but betrays you (this will always be the Important Dead Kid whose parent was involved with the company, no exceptions)
>The other shareholder (Not-Henry) whose personality traits are "nice" and "dead"
>The other missing kids (who will all have backstories for some reason)
>The creature that only exists to bait lorefags
>The mascots, they'll either be furfag bait or so excessively creepy that it becomes unconvincing for a beloved children's franchise
>The most useless and incompetent detectives/cops ever seen in media
>The protagonist who is almost invariably a would-be victim that got away

No. 501396

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>>501379
I remember when this bullshit was hosted on Cloudnovel(rip) kek

No. 501409

>>501396
>Cloudnovel
Haven't heard this name in a long time. Wasn't the CEO a schizo or something?

No. 501475

>>501409
She's the same girl who simped for elon and then shutdown her online vn engine. A shame it went down like it did but maybe that was for the best?

No. 501711

File: 1748477577166.png (2.04 MB, 900x2361, n18KJw.png)

Has anyone here played Yours Game? This fan game takes place in the Your Boyfriend universe and it's just soo awful

No. 501720

File: 1748478016449.png (1.23 MB, 1920x550, terrifying cake thing.png)

>>501392
>so excessively creepy that it becomes unconvincing for a beloved children's franchise
Kek this trope is my favorite. Just searching itch.io for mascot horror and this is the first result.
>>501711
No, tell us about it, nona. The hold Your Boyfriend has on an alarming number of people needs to be studied. I checked out its page, and it apparently has NSFW content? The characters look like Countryhumans kek.
>>501309
>Starry flowers has the honor of being with Class of 09 as my lowest rated VN on VNDB
I haven't read this one. What makes it so much worse than all of the other games she's made?

No. 501722

>>501396
I somehow saw a clip from this game years ago and I remember thinking the jumpscare sounds were extremely autistic

No. 501738

>>501263
>*gnome noises

No. 501833

File: 1748512498893.png (1.2 MB, 2068x1243, 1745685396670.png)

Have you guys talked about this already?
https://itch.io/jam/forced-feminization-game-jam

I found it in one of the MtF threads

No. 501840

>>501833
>The obvious lack of effort even just from this page
You can really see where their priorities lie kek

No. 501857

>>501720
>>501392
Unpopular opinion but fnaf is a kusoge too. The hype was purely carried by the lore theories.

No. 501898

>>501857
I'm still a firm believer that fnaf 1 is relatively okay-ish, had a nice atmosphere and was quite unique for it's time. Anything that came afterwards is certified kusoge that pandered to kids and youtubers way too heavily. No idea why people still defend the franchise so rabidly from any sort of criticism when it's literally uninspired shit that should've died off in 2016, if not earlier.

No. 501917

>>501833
>Lyric live action role-playing game
>Audio-based mission of exploration
>Printable zine game
I only ever see TIMs making this kind of garbage kek

No. 501999

File: 1748544435473.png (145.2 KB, 927x908, electricpuke.png)

>>499234
Sorry for late reply but yes, apparently they had some big drama? I found this interesting ask on archive ph

No. 502002

File: 1748544918671.png (343.3 KB, 901x1777, electricpuke2.png)

>>501999
(1/2)
Samefag, here's another. Tldr polycule never works

No. 502004

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No. 502005

>>501898
I agree that the first game is alright and has the best atmosphere. I don't know how people were alright with the same boring gameplay loop throughout multiple games, though.

No. 502006

>>501898
From what i remember Scott pumped out fnaf 2 and 3 extremely fast because he was in need of money and didn't wanna lose the spotlight and attention online he had, he made 40 something games before fnaf 1 and was broke

No. 502008

>>501999
>>502002
>>502004
Let me guess, Puke (kek) is a TIF who wanted to unicorn hunt for her pet scrote, and the OP's degenerate husband thought he'd be getting a side chick out of the situation but had a Male Moment when it didn't work out how he wanted.
>I can't fight his demons for him
>I shouldn't have enabled his sociopathy for so long
The OP is extremely naive jfc.

No. 502011

>>502008
Op in the picrel is Gatobob who made BTD

No. 502017

>>502006
Something like that. From financial standpoint it was a right thing for Scott to do, but I just don't really get why people ate those games up like they were literal masterpieces when they were average at best or outright atrocious both story- and gameplay-wise at worst. And then comes the mascot horror apocalypse that does everything fnaf did but worse.

No. 502350

>>502002
>we were never good in bed. For years i used to cry at night because he never wanted me
>he only liked the idea of me being with others because it made him feel like he owned me
>i was his object being rented out
Jesus, i regret defending gato and her weird edgy vn. I thought she was a normal woman married to a probably fat ugly scrote but i thought they had a normal, healthy relationship. This is fucking insane, and it makes BTD take such a dark turn.

No. 502356

>>501833
I like itch because they let people host any sort of kusoge regardless if it's offensive or not but sometimes I wish they were a bit harder moderation wise because why is this even a gamejam

No. 502421

>>500272
I love Anonymous Agony. The MC's voice actor was fucking amazing in that role and the fact that it had unnecessary loading screens only because 'real games have them' is fucking hilarious.

No. 502703

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This shit was so embarrassing. A bunch of serial killers talking like Discord zoomers. I know it's supposed to be a silly and quirky romance game, but they don't have any sense of "oh shit I might get caught." It's like a group of teenage edgelords LARPing as murderers.

No. 502732

File: 1748728057406.png (61.1 KB, 950x384, lmfao sure.PNG)

>>502703
This game is just boring as fuck. Why would a bunch of literal serial killers be confessing to crimes and acting like teens in a discord server and setting pronoun roles? Also the writer throwing around "darkweb" but not knowing what that actually means and just referring to a discord server is hilarious.

No. 502779

>>502703
>ugly chatroom aesthetic
>pronouns and character customization looks like picrew
The consequences of A Date with Death

No. 503283

File: 1748921947972.png (889.25 KB, 1079x1538, alex yiik.png)

Do you think the update turned the kusoge to kamige?

No. 503309

>>499177
Milo is very cute so I just HC him as a bishie male.

No. 503312

>>501720
>Starry Flowers

NTA but there's nothing that offensive about it. The art is cute but it's just so boring.

TL;DR, the plot is some slutty femboy witch meeting Pink Boy and going on a date. Since the slutty witch is so unused to romance he assumes all the Pink Boy wants from his is sex when Pink Boy actually loves him. Slutty witch realizes Pink Boy's love for him and they become official boyfriends. The end.

No. 503313

>>500518
>Korean feminists were faster in finding out where he lived

God bless them.

No. 503323

>>503283
I had no idea the game got an update…

No. 503446

>>503323
It really did distill exactly what people hate about the Alex-esque moid, despite it seemingly being unintentional from the devs.

No. 504148

Have any of these "OLEVN" hacks ever tried ripping off a SciADV game?

No. 504229

File: 1749140273479.jpg (238.21 KB, 600x900, 80127.jpg)

>>504148
Japan does it by themselves

No. 504667

>>503283
>I've probably watched the running shine review of Yiik like 10 times

No. 504882

>>502732
>serial killers are aggressively and violently pro-troon
I love unintentionally based trans representation kekaroo

No. 505085

File: 1749267801471.png (2.71 MB, 900x1200, ffIdwM.png)

>>504148
I don't know if it fully counts, but there were some people complaining about the visual similarities between the original art for this and Steins;Gate a while ago.

No. 505478

File: 1749342973224.jpg (574.82 KB, 900x684, BlankDream(4).jpg)

>>500467
HC is fairly standard as far as RPG Maker games go imo, most of them especially in the horror/semi-surrealist category fall into 3edgy5u and pseudo-intectual territory.
If RPG Maker games are allowed, may I talk about Blank Dream, which I have such an intense love/hate relationship for? Simultaneously comforting and super fucking retarded and stupid in its edginess. Asking because I will go into a full sperg about it that may be essay length

No. 505482

>>505478
>may I talk about Blank Dream
NTA but nona please go into your full sperg essay about this game. I love when nonas write long posts about these shitty games. I know nothing about Blank Dream, and I'd love to learn. Wasn't it popular with Let's Players some time ago?

No. 505511

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>>505482
Alright, here goes. This might not be in proper order because it's been a long time but I'll try my best.
Basic premise is that you are Mishiro Usui, who wakes up in a purgatory under a lake with zero idea of who she is and is stuck until she breaks all the mirrors containing her memories so she can have a wish granted before she moves on
You meet two people in a main area, one is Yuzu, a fifteen year old girl, and the other will be referred to as Pedo Moid, who have been stuck here for a while and are impressed you broke a mirror while they are unable to find their own. Bulk of the fof the game is doing standard RPG Maker logic and maze puzzles to unlock doors to find mirrors to break all while being followed by a scary shadow. Breaking mirrors involves reliving one of your memories and then finding a way to kill yourself. Very emo.
You can go to the main area at any time to talk to either Yuzu or Pedo Moid, who will say pedo moid things occasionally and gross your character out. Both will ask you to break their mirrors for them, which is optional but imperative for unlocking the true endings. And requires special keys you'll need to find
>You are a super depressed autismo, and everything sucks for you; you hate school, you're being severely bullied, your mother hates your guts and the only thing going for you is that you're decent at painting because of your grandfather but you don't really care for it
>It's so bad that you're contemplating suicide and go to a lake to kind of hype yourself up for it
>A boy painting at the lake sees you and thinks you're going to kill yourself and tries to stop you by talking to you (he will be referred to as LI) and begging you to at least stick around so you can pose for his painting because you remind him of someone
>LI and you start hanging out in an abandoned building near the lake so he can paint you. He often compares you to his dead sister
>It's revealed that he can only paint here because his mother hates art and will tweak out if he sees him doing it
>You being a lolita on the weekends is mentioned off handedly by a bully, this is not important at all nor adds really anything to your personality because we never see it kek you then stab the bullies, doing so too much unlocks the mandatory evil edgy bad ending
>One day you and LI are walking home and LI's mother tries to run you over and LI pushes you out of the way and he dies and then you decide to drown yourself in the lake because you find no point in life
After this you can unlock the big main doors and get the Killing Yourself ending if you decide to skip the next part. Your wish is that you want to have never existed and granting that means you get wiped from existence
More puzzles follow, but also pretty significant lore.
Yuzu backstory:
>She is a completely normal high school student
>There is a new student in the class who she immediately crushes on, we will call her Albino-chan
>Yuzu and Albino-chan hang out often and become very close, Albino-chan acts very similar to Mishiro
>Albino-chan talks about how she's not supposed to exist and that she's an abomination, then kills herself a week later at the lake
>Yuzu then becomes obsessed with the occult and trying to resurrect Albino-chan, then comes to the conclusion that she needs to kill herself at the lake so she can get given a wish to bring her back to life and/or join her in the afterlife
Pedo Moid backstory:
>Pedo Moid is your father's best friend/your uncle? It's not super clear
>Even Pedo Moid's family thinks he is a pedo
>But wait, Pedo Moid wasn't a pedo all along! He's just retarded and did some weird non-sexual Jacobesque bonding with you despite him barely knowing you and vice versa at all! Shame on you for judging him!
>Pedo Moid and your father die in a fire at work and because of this weird soul bonding shit has been floating around as a ghost following you everywhere and got sucked in the lake when you tried to kill yourself
>Your father dying is also why you're super depressed and why your mother kind of hates you for being a burden
You may end the game by going through the large doors after either or both are unlocked. But there are a few more optional routes involving your grandfather and LI's mother who are both stuck in/on their way to Hell? And monologue at you
Grandfather lore:
>Your grandfather was a famous and rich painter, he also slept around a lot and was a huge sexpest
>One day he has an affair with his maid who is then pregnant, he hides this from his wife(?) and sets up a place for them to live
>Through a series of events he ends up raping his underage illegitimate daughter who then gives birth to Albino-chan
>Grandfather feels so sad about the consequences of his evil moid behaviour that he gives her all of his money in his will which pisses off his other children/your father
>Faggot is the only one who dies a natural death
LI mother lore:
>She's the woman who your grandfather raped and she married someone soon after she gave birth to Albino-chan
>Yes! That does mean you and are LI are related
>She was very mentally ill for obvious reasons and really hated your side of the family
>She also killed herself after finding out she killed her son
Scary shadow turns out to be Albino-chan who had the exact same wish as you and had drove herself insane trying to find her mirrors
Weirdly enough, a lot of the endings most of which involves you still being alive are quite sweet. True ending is that you become an amazing artist, way better than your faggot grandfather, who creates art based on your experience in purgatory and you receive LI's painting which is you and Albino-chan together, smiling. I love-hate this so much game, it's so fucking over the top and stupid kek, truly made for sixteen year olds everywhere.

No. 505517

>>505511
Samefag, sorry for the typos, I'm not going back over 1K words kek but I will clarify something I just remembered. Mishiro stabs the bullies who were talking about her coord because they wanted to force her to do pin ups with it

No. 505592

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Why is every artistic choice made by the John Doe creator so horrifically ugly?? I can barely sit to finish one of the games without getting a headache.

>>497553 already mentioned how the backgrounds are just lazy AI images slapped together, but the characters themselves just look so gross and unappealing, and the weird linework doesn't really help with that either. I don't expect every MC to look like some twinky bishie, but holy fuck with characters this hideous I start to believe the ugly male psyop might be real. Strade actually looks halfway decent next to this ugly bastard.

No. 505600

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>>505592
Spoiler this shit please. Of course she's married to a fat Tiffany, she kinda looks like young Fanny

No. 505602

>>505600
If you didn't tell me this was a tiffany I would've believe she was your average neckbeard scrote.

No. 505604

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>>505602
Bio says he/they but I didn't saw any trans flag, then I found these tweets

No. 505611

>>505511
just stumbled across this review randomly and it totally looks like something I would play/watch a gameplay of in my teens, seriously contemplating playing it now just for the vibes, especially if it's so emo kek
Didn't read any of the spoilers, just wondering if you would compare it to any of the classic rpg maker games (mad father, Misao, crooked man, Ib) "quality" wise, or is it in kusoge thread for a reason?

No. 505670

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>>505511
AYRT and this review was so entertaining kek. There are just tragic twists upon tragic twists, and it's so melodramatic. This sounds like the kind of batshit insane bad game I actually enjoy playing.
>Yes! That does mean you and are LI are related
I'm a little confused by the relationship between MC and LI and Albino-chan. Wouldn't LI not be related to MC, since Albino-chan's dad is MC's grandpa, but presumably the mom had LI with the man she married afterwards? So Albino-chan and LI are half-siblings with different fathers, and MC is related to Albino-chan only? Or did I misunderstand?

No. 505677

>>505592
Why are his eyes just triangles?

>>505511
Being afraid to make huge posts is so silly, stuff like this is ususally considered an effortpost in other imageboards, you don't have to ask for anons' persmission.

No. 505696

>>505592
The psyop is real even though nonnas get way too overzealous about it at times.

No. 505868

>>505611
It's lower quality than a lot of classics imo (besides maybe early Corpse Party or Ao Oni which are both turds), there's a significant amount of repetition and backtracking you have to do that can make the game really tedious if you don't know how get certain things or get stuck in certain puzzles that aren't very clear. Free asset abuse is very prevalent throughout, though how much that impacts you depends on how much of a snob you are. That and the incredibly juvenile story made me feel like it was appropriate for the thread.
>it totally looks like something I would play/watch a gameplay of in my teens
Good chance you might have seen gameplay! I remember it being a hit amongst horror gameplay channels when it came out, I think it was pre-FNaF Markiplier territory iirc.
>>505670
Oops, sorry, I don't think I made it clear LI's mother is your half-aunt who remarried and had LI who is your cousin, Albino-chan is your half aunt-cousin
I really recommend playing it, for all its flaws it's very entertaining.
>>505677
Kek, you're right.

No. 505936

>>505592
I wouldnt say the designs are bad but if we're being real their porn art doesn't do it for me bc of how somewhat hyperrealistic they make it.

Gendie shit aside, I quite liked the john doe character but god the fanbase sucks balls

No. 505945

>>505592
Kekkkk his moobs

No. 505949

>>505592
Looks like typical TIF ugly-man obesity fetish art.

No. 506528

>>505949
>>505949
That’s bc it is

No. 507380

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I got recommended a video of some scrote playing this the other day. I did not get very far into the video because the scrote was annoying, but the game has the typical edgy "traumacore" visuals and some kind of secret dark lore. Comments indicate it's about how furries are hated online and how unfair it is that they're mistreated. At one point, you perform surgery on a furry to turn it into a human while it stares at you with quivering, teary eyes kek.

No. 507413

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>>507380
>furries treated unfairly boohoo
Dumb y2k zoomies don't even know that everyone hated furries in the old flash days. Furry shit could get you banned from most forums and sites (because they were gross and drama queens), and the 'yiff in hell, furfag' meme was at its height. Being a furry was the #1 way to be a social outcast online, and they were only vaguely accepted on art sites because they were incredibly prolific and commission whales. Most people would not touch furries with a 10 foot pole (for good reason). It's really only with the modern internet that they've been somewhat normalized, mostly because they're heavy into animation and tech and groom stupid kids into thinking it's wholesome fun or even a sexual identity.

No. 507425

>>505592
This is the kind of people that will call bishies boring lmao

No. 507435

>>505592
Damn. I'm a fatfucker and I wouldn't fuck that.
>>505600
>Look here! Listen!

No. 507498

>>507413
Aren't some furfags buddy buddy with zoofags too? The hate didn't come from no where. Furries would always preach about inclusivity and no borders while housing bonafide dogfuckers in their ranks.

No. 507533

>>507380
>At one point, you perform surgery on a furry to turn it into a human while it stares at you with quivering, teary eyes
KINO

No. 507534

>>507498
yup furries and dogfuckers go hand in jand. also there's a lot of pedos (so called cub porn) and even the rest usually come with gross ass fetishes (diapers, inflation, obesity, vore, you name it).
i recall back on livejournal (i think it was sf_d) there was one who always insisted she was " one if the good ones" until ppl found her art account where she drew six-dicked centaur porn

No. 507564

>>507380
Is this unironic? I saw this video in my YouTube recommendation and thought it was satire

No. 507588

>>507498
Tbf if I see someone who's degenerate enough to publicly identify as a furry, I just assume they're a dogfucker.

No. 507593

>>507380
>Comments indicate it's about how furries are hated online and how unfair it is that they're mistreated.
Are they though? Nowadays, being a furry is like being into a fandom. I don't really see the same hatred that they used to get. At best, there's light ribbing.

No. 507609

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>>507380
Because I love you all very much I tried to sift through this game, and then I got sick of it and just watched someone else's video. This game has a story where there's some kids game made by two friends, one of whom is a furry who kills a cat after being pressured by his furry hating dad to do so and then the dad kills him for that so the other friend kills herself after her furry game gets hate and to reunite with her dead furry friend. If the point is to depict furries as victims why would you have a furry character kill a cat of all things? It really reminded me of that Lacey's games youtube webseries about this girl being raped by her uncle who makes dress up games. The visuals were pretty similar too.
>>507413
>Dumb y2k zoomies don't even know that everyone hated furries in the old flash days
Funny you say that since that's what the whole game is about kek although it's still shitty.
>>507593
Tbh the furry hate I see online nowadays is cringier to me than most furries themselves cause it's mostly done by gen alpha moidlets

No. 507617

>>507609
Reading this lore, I feel like the dev can't be any older than 16 kek
>Bloody bandage placement
Do you have to saw the fursona's dick off or something?

No. 507620

>>507609
>spoiler
How old is the creator of this game? It sounds like an edgy shit I would make when I was 14 years old. a furry killing a cat is such a funny unintentional self-report

No. 507671

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>>507413
Agreed. It was actually kind of shocking to see the number of "they don't do anything wrong! Why are they so hated?" comments under the video. The game's "furries are oppressed," angle coupled with the Furry Conversion Surgery was certainly a unique perspective, though kek.
>>507564
>Is this unironic?
I think so. It's always possible it's not, but people seem to be taking it seriously in the comments. I didn't watch the whole video, but there was nothing indicating it was ironic from what I saw…
>>507609
Thank you for the summary. It's even worse than I anticipated. The shitty dad forcing his child to kill a cat because he's a furry is so over-the-top kek.
>>507593
Furry hate has definitely died down, so I'm not exactly sure what compelled the creator (who, if we're being realistic, is probably not old enough to remember when furries were not so openly accepted) to make this. A lot of people in the video's comments were also complaining about the 'hate' the furry community receives.
>>507498
As a more recent example, there was the whole Kero the Wolf situation. The association exists for a reason, in my opinion.

No. 507763

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>>507380
>"modern homage to flash games"
>look inside
>zero vector graphics



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