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I just recently decided to read the Higurashi visual novels starting with the very first one with the original sprites. A lot of ppl think they're ugly but I find them super charming and kinda uncanny in a good way. I'm on my first hour of game-play, so far is super chilling but hopefully it'll get creepy soon.
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Got this for switch and played through the main game. The story was such an incredible ride. Every time I thought I figured the story out or it was nearing the end, they threw something else at me. Even with the good ending this got me very emotional. Beautiful art too.
Currently working on the prequel game and though it's not quite as good I'm still enjoying it.
pirate that shit girl.>https://nyaa.si/view/1181305
also, on the trans stuff: i wouldn't really call it that. it's a case of a child genius having a split personality, and that split personality just so happens to be a girl. been a solid two years since i read through ciconia but i don't recall any angst over dysphoria or the character's body not matching up with their mental state or whatever.
in the end i don't know you, so i can't tell you if it's worth reading through or not, but i personally enjoyed it quite a bit.
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Our Life: Beginnings & Always.
It's so heart warming and charming. Wish Cove was realexcept his eyebrows
We need an otome game thread imo
I was going to make one and use an Angelique 1 pic for the OP but I forgot
Kudos to you anon for playing with OG sprites, they were a bit too much for me, so I went for the console ones. I recommend at least getting the voice patch, really enhances the experience… once you get past Satoko's voice. Overall the fan patches at 07th-Mod are superb, let you freely switch between sprites, music etc - check it out if you haven't.
I enjoyed the Higurashi series very much, to me it's one of the best this medium has to offer. It's not perfect, the slice of life elements were tedious to get through at times, but the mystery is nicely crafted and even knowing the plot it was a very enjoyable read.
Tbh I prefer it over Umineko, which seems to be the more like one in the west.
Agreed, this was a fun one. I'm unpatiently waiting to be able to romance and bully
the smug rich guy.
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saw this being promoted on twitter. call me a weab if you must but this kind of shit exemplifies why i avoid western otome. the art is usually shit (while eastern vns do have mainstream animu style, they at least employ technical skill) what gets me is that indie devs love catering to troons. yes i am still heartbroken that the hot vampire guy from dream daddy was a tif sorry to sperg. if any of you know of actual decent western otome please let me know.
yeah, it looks like a below standard """ironic visual""" that's been slowly becoming irrelevant. i feel like i've seen these character archetypes in the western comic/art/game sphere like a billion fuckin' times.
I loved 999 but havent played the sequel yet. I kept seeing people saying that VLR is good but ZTD is shit on /v/, and it's not like I trust these people for everything but I've been told more about the development for both games and it makes sense. Apparently ZTD's original script was completely redone because the writer wanted more plot twists for the sake of it. 999 is an excellent self contained story so I don't want to have it ruined with bad sequels.>>194348
Looks like shit to me. >>194360
is right, looks like an "ironic dating sim" made for people who would find a normal, well-written and straight-forward visual novel "cringe" and who thought the KFC visual novel was innovative. No thanks.
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I was absolutely obsessed with Cinderella Phenomenon in high school. It has a crossdressing
character, but it's plot relevant and nothing tranny pandering
. When I was even younger, I also loved Autumns Journey. Both are free, CinPhen you can find on Steam while AJ is to be found on lemmasoft forums.
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>>194348>if any of you know of actual decent western otome please let me know.
I don't know why western dating sims get shit on so much. When they're catering to freaks like this I can understand, but otome have just as many retarded tropes you have to wade through. The good western ones generally incorporate much more customization and choice-centric gameplay than otome (you can still have your own personality rather than one catered to your love interest) with more outspoken heroines. Here are some I've enjoyed. Some of them have minor queerio aspects like being able to choose pronouns but nothing over the top. >The Arcana: A Mystic Romance>The Confines of the Crown>Ambition: A Minuet in Power >Aloners (the Wilder stories from this dev are also good)>Errant Kingdom (not complete but pretty far along/their game When the Night Comes is finished though)>Demonheart>Red Embrace: Hollywood>Our Life: Beginnings & Always>Ebon Light
Sonnet009 is such a great writer! It was so nice to have a comprehensive focus on a single relationship with a number of different ways to approach it. Trash is a sweetheart and felt like a real person. >my choices are not just [be uwu submissive to him] or [be a rude bitch for no reason]
Kek exactly. I crave more nuance then nice/mean, I want to be able to gently tease my love interest, stand against his decisions sometimes and still be respected, have him show interest in my character rather than just infodumping his tragic backstory. The majority of these games actually allow this rather than the player just being railroaded into a single "true" path.
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I can ignore the fact the elf is a they/them, but please tell me the demon Stacy and goblin guy are cis. Please let me have nice things.
Btw, as anyone ever heard of or played Signed, Sealed, Delivered with a Kiss? I bought it and regret it. The gist is that you raise the interest to suit your tastes, but I quit early in because the mc was so hateful. I can understand being a bit prickly given the situation that a android won't leave you alone, but I understand why this bitch is friendless. She's just angry, harsh, toxic
and unforgiving. That's not even the worst part though: The narrative tries to explain why mc is the way that she is because she had cold parents and felt lonely or whatever. Also, she's some super edgy hacker or whatever idfk. all I remember is that she had no reason to be the way she was and was just a person meant to be forever alone. She was cruel
to the android who was literally basically an infant and could only depend on her. I just don't get how you can make a dating sim and make the mc do everything in her power to be as unlovable as possible and actually prevent the romance part of the whole game. I walked away from this game wondering why the fuck they made it.
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This seems to be an unpopular opinion because everytime people mention her they do it to hate on her writing but I am a genuine fan of Sakurai. I read all the translated VNs of her Steampunk series, especially Sekien no Inganock is one of my favorite VNs out there. Love the art the VNs have, the colors and designs and her writing style is weird but I always liked it for feeling so, dunno, fairytale-like? I think it gives it a distinctive style.
I also love Hoshizora Meteor VNs (Forest, Fate/Hollow Ataraxia, Mahoutsukai no Yoru). They are both Type-Moon related lol
But in general I read all kinds of VNs besides those that bore me (generic harem or SoL VNs). Like so many others I started with short VNs, namely Narcissu and Saya no Uta (Nitro+ is almost always good, including Chiral).
A short VN I absolutely recommend is "True Remembrance"! The artstyle looks amateurish, but I got used to it fast and the story is absolute top. Avoid it if you aren't into bittersweet stories though.
I am also a huge fan of Umineko and other Ryukishi stuff. Reading Uminenko "live" and discussing the newest part to hell and back was one of the most entertaining things I experienced. The OST was one of the best I heard as well and I cannot thank R07 enough for this series and I am eager to see his future projects. >>256751
I don't believe it fully, but I believe that he influenced him a lot. I think Ryukishi thought up the stories and like two genuinely close friends that fanboy or fangirl like crazy they discussed it together and that gives you a LOT of input.
I don't mean monologues and your friend nodding, but a friend that IS fan of what you are fan of and a fan of you. Just talking with them can be incredibly productive and this is what Ryukishi is missing now. Sadly.
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I just binged AI the somnium files and really loved, it and have been playing Nirvana Initiative, but I’m starting to get to my limit with the authors treatment of the female characters. It wasn’t good in AITSF but hearing the sex jokes from a big busty brown dominatrix character (I love Tama otherwise but hate this aspect of her character) and the specific portrayal of a grown man creeping on a high school girl in this one is really irritating me. I’m gonna try to finish it, I only just started the Mizuki route, but I have a strong feeling I won’t like it as much.
I didn't know what anyone thought about it, i checked it out because i found it on steam and the art was really pretty
I loved it too, i didn't know what to expect but i wasn't let down, didn't really like the backgrounds because they had a lot of contrast with the character art
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i was always fascinated with Saya No Uta, i like almost everything about it because it feels very disturbing but i despise all the loli/sexual aspects of it
was it really necessary? why couldn't it be just a creepy and disturbing VN without the forced explicit stuff, it doesn't make it any better
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Because gen urobuchi is a major creep and pedo, can't believe that a lot of people still like Madoka knowing he also wrote Saya no Uta, thought he would've been cancelled by the twitter crowd at this point.
Other than that, I do agree with you. Actually my favorite parts were definitely when fuminori and saya weren't present at all. I swear ryoko could've been one of my favorite female characters, if only she wasn't in this lolishit game. Wish I never played it at all especially since I was underaged when I did and it made me sick when I was reading it. Even more so when scrotes only love this game because of the romantic pedo stuff.
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>>257747>specific portrayal of a grown man creeping on a high school girl
Oh no, not this again… I haven't been able buy AiNi yet, but played the first game some time ago and while the story was lackluster for the most part imo (compared to some of other games Uchikoshi has written at least), the characters were so fun it glued me to the console. I was pretty excited for the sequel, I'm sad he is back on that bullshit, it was already bad on VLR specially after Sigma's plot twist
and there was some in the original AITSF, but since the protagonist was a girl this time around I thought that would be gone for the most part. Never underestimate a man who thinks with his dick I guess….
I fell in love with Tama's design when she was revealed and hope she isn't too bad in-game. I expected her to be the carrier of horny jokes but I don't find them as irritating if it's a female character saying them, so I guess I will stand her. I haven't bought a single DLC in my life, but I'm even considering buying the kimono one because she and Aiba look too adorable with them on.
I loved SnU but I never understood why so many people think that little girls that are actually evil trope was shocking and creepy. Not talking about loli but in general, it's a popular trope in western horror too and it NEVER worked for me.
I think it would have been way better if Saya was some sickly looking, mysterious and pale adult woman with an ephemeral beauty that makes he feel ghostlike and unreal which she actually is. It works so much better when you realise she is actually a horrible eldritch abomination in that case, moe lolis are neither unworldly nor genuinely pretty so they feel shoved in to attract otaku.
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Last Legacy is a defunct VN that had so much potential to be amazing, I still have so much love for it someone please mourn with me. The art & writing team jumped ship once their contracts were up because the company running the show was dogshit, then the company went under, and last I checked from what I understand another company bought the game but hasn't updated it in a year. RIP
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anyone else here who played/are playing slow damage? I just cleared the game the other day.
Umineko (Higurashi's sister game) is pretty great, though not really all that horror oriented to me (it's more focused on murder mystery stuff over being scary).
Totono is pretty great if you can get past the scrote shit in it.
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Damn I was looking up the reading time for Aoi Shiro because I wanted to recommend someone this VN since it's one of the best I have read and now I coincidentally see that it's not only getting a remaster and official English release, Akai Ito, an older VN by the same team, is getting the same treatment.
The latter was never translated afaik so this is fucking awesome, I always wanted to read this. https://www.gematsu.com/2022/09/akai-ito-aoi-shiro-hd-remaster-announced-for-switch-pc
I would recommend Aoi Shiro to everybody that likes yuri, supernatural things and Japanese mythology. I cannot really describe it, it's not exactly horror, but not far from it either. The atmosphere it had was cool, I was interested finding more hints that explained the characters and mysteries and the title is fitting because most of it takes place in the night, so many scenes have this blue hue that made it special.
Think it was also the only VN with I think 40 and more different bad endings where you had to play every one of them to understand 100% of the story. I like it when bad ends aren't shitty 5 minute scenes without CGI but story relevant.
Is it true that this game has a lot of troon shit in it? It's hard to get a clear answer without outing myself as a terf
given how dense it seems to be and how prone to latching onto shit troons are.
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This shit was great, despite loli fanservice and ass-poor translation. I highly recommend. Plus that Nice Boat at the end.
You're telling me this isn't
a lolicon porn game?
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Learning japanese just to play the rance series rn, specifically the 3rd one since i finished the first two and i'm obsessed with it, even though it's very scrotey.>>257759
The loli shit ruined saya entirely, gen urobuchi is a talentless pedo coomer and saya was his only work with potential so it's a shame it was ruined with that ugly fucking kid.>>261420
Subahibi is a good psychological horror vn, but i recommend with caution. It's one of the most disturbing things i've played but there are very gratutious amounts of rape (only two are story relevant though) and other fetish shit which is frustrating because it nails down the horror parts so well but there's so much rape/scrotery that you can't just avoid it. Sayooshi too, but same warning applies.
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It's on Steam, anon. There is 0 sex in it. >>276449
You haven't even read it, yet you have the gall to shit on it…to feel self-righteous, I guess? >>276457>>276457
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It does have lolifag pandering, sadly, but it's not a major distraction.
The plot is two-tier - from the point of view of an adult, and from the point of view of a little girl (you can only unlock the second point of view after you've finished the first).
It's 1998 and a guy from Taiwan moves to Indonesia and starts living with a friend and his daughter. Lots of crappily-translated brooding about religion, society, cultural differences, shitting on Chicoms follows. Household drama and school shenanigans ensue. Then the 1998 riots happen and shit hits the fan. The Nice Boat is both literal and metaphorical.
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You think VNs are normal? Even Higurashi has loli pandering. But I guess it's fine, because normalfags have 'sanctified' it and given their seal of approval, hence it's okay and not creepy at all to like it? How can you be such a sheep?
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If you hate the medium so much, what are you even doing in this thread? Looking for non-problematic
, Western VNs with 'representation' and 'healthy' relationships?
Nice try but visual novels are not all porn or pedo bait. The genre evolved through both
otaku trash and mystery/horror games with "normie" appeal, but most importantly the latter. Hating the degenerate otaku incel side of the genre is not the same as hating the medium itself. That's like saying we hate online video sharing because we hate porn sites specifically. Eroge ≠ visual novel, plus non-eroge VNs didn't suddenly stop being made as soon as porn became popular within the genre, which is something even absolute VN beginners should know. And it's an objective fact that most anime-style visual novels such as Saya no Uta would be infinitely better without all the rape, guro, pedophilia and general scrote degeneracy (only a porn addict would think it adds anything of value).
Also, the fact that the vast majority of VNs are a product of horny Japanese incels being pedos and potential rapists doesn't mean shit; at least 90% of all VNs are shit-quality garbage, whether they try to hide it behind a pretentious plot or not. Besides, the only reasons porn VNs are so common is because the average adult moid who was a computer geek and a gamer in the early days of VNs was also a deviant anime fan, and because scrotes always make porn versions of everything (as you may know, VNs were not the only genre of eroge in the PC-88 days, since there were a lot of low-effort puzzle and card games of that kind as well).
good VNs, both from Japan and other countries, that don't have that kind of content, and we're here to discuss those mainly. You just haven't heard about many of them because ironically you only prefer a certain kind of VN that is favored by insufferable weeb porn addicts and never step out of your comfort zone while dismissing anything that doesn't appeal to you specifically.
Gatekeeping visual novels from "normies" is pretty retarded when there are several VNs that have become popular in Japan with the exact same kind of crowd you hate, but I guess since that crowd is Japanese, you don't mind since you're a delusional megaweeb and think Japanese people are muh master race who have a right to enjoy things unlike those icky Westerners (who of course are all SJWs for not wanting to see disgusting and unnecessary porn, misogyny and pedophilia in the story they're reading). You know, maybe the problem isn't that everyone else are normie prudes and SJWs who would never "get it", maybe the problem is that you're sick in the head and think that shit is not only ok, but necessary and good. You insist so much on being such an obnoxious and pedantic know-nothing, that everyone can see you're only gatekeeping obscure and overrated hobbies on an anonymous imageboard this hard because it's the only way for you to feel good about yourself, and/or feel like you're "one of the boys at 4chan" (that is, if you aren't a moid yourself). You also reek of pathetic /a/ newfag trying to fit in; I'm sorry but they'll never fuck you. You're a certified low IQ autist and should go back to 4scrote, or maybe go back to the VNDB forums to cry about them stupid normie femoids not getting the ~deep~ philosophical messages in your favorite loli rape "masterpiece".
Vid related, it's about the history of visual novels. Maybe you should watch it before trying to gatekeep something you know nothing about.
(Sage because I don't wanna bump with a rant)
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>>276521>nobody normal reads visual novels period
Why are you in this thread again? To shit on freak media freak people enjoy? Find a better use of your time.>>276600>Everything I Hate Is Loli Pr0n!
Do you have a disorder that makes you overreact to anything that you find triggering
? I'm not even going into your attempts at backseat-moderating as if this thread was the last accessible page on the internet. >>276661>and we're here to discuss those mainly.
Who gave you the right to decide what should or shouldn't be discussed in this thread?
>Gatekeeping visual novels from "normies"
It's the opposite. You're the one limiting VN discussion to what you personally find acceptable. That's also gatekeeping.
>You know, maybe the problem isn't that everyone else are normie prudes and SJWs who would never "get it", maybe the problem is that you're sick in the head and think that shit is not only ok, but necessary and good. You insist so much on being such an obnoxious and pedantic know-nothing, that everyone can see you're only gatekeeping obscure and overrated hobbies on an anonymous imageboard this hard because it's the only way for you to feel good about yourself, and/or feel like you're "one of the boys at 4chan" (that is, if you aren't a moid yourself). You also reek of pathetic /a/ newfag trying to fit in; I'm sorry but they'll never fuck you. You're a certified low IQ autist and should go back to 4scrote, or maybe go back to the VNDB forums to cry about them stupid normie femoids not getting the ~deep~ philosophical messages in your favorite loli rape "masterpiece".
Are you ok in the head? This is some astronomic projection. And again the topic is an indie game that doesn't even have any romance or sex in it.
Please take your meds ASAP.
>>276943>not wanting to talk about my loli trash is also gatekeeping because wahhhh I wanna talk about it
I find it hilarious that this autist wants to gatekeep and turn this place into a lolifag circlejerk but also complains about our
own gatekeeping that we specifically do (not just in this thread but on the whole site) to keep disgusting newfag creeps like him out.
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Any nonnas play the demo? If so what did you think of it
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any nonnies know of subarashiki hibi? I read it a few years ago then decided to re-read out of nostalgia, it’s definitely not for everyone and the fanbase consists of 14-16 year old girls who would post themselves on /r9k/ for attention
NTA but how is it?>>285712
I have not read it but I'm so curious because it's infamous for pseudointellectual and edgy to hilarious levels.
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I fucking LOOOOOVE subahibi, my favorite vn ever actually. That also made me wonder why subahibi attracts those kind of people kek, especially since those people tend to be TIFs who are usually sjws, must be the same phenomena as south park fans.
Amazingly late to this but i must be the other BT tinfoil believer in this whole website kek. I wish i opened this thread before.
Twittertards will say that theory is overreaching but back in the day if you got deeply enough into umineko to follow the interviews and kept up with what was going on with 07th expansion you'd notice how very upset ryukishi was at the absence of that guy. Past ep6 he would constantly reference the absence of someone that left and yada yada plus him dedicating ep8 to "his beloved Beatrice" lmao you can't make this shit up. Plus the obvious quality drop in his works it's the most obvious hint that some big change happened within his team lmao.
That said, im gonna cut Ryu some slack and say i don't believe BT was his ghostwriter but more like a co-writer. Honestly I personally believe many of the answers to the umineko mystery are gone with him and that Ryu doesnt know all of them and that's why the official answer at times feels like a piece of fanfiction plus the fact he seemed to have no idea of how to properly end umineko by EP8 and left things in the open for so long… But that's just my opinion of course!