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No. 191785
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I just recently decided to read the Higurashi visual novels starting with the very first one with the original sprites. A lot of ppl think they're ugly but I find them super charming and kinda uncanny in a good way. I'm on my first hour of game-play, so far is super chilling but hopefully it'll get creepy soon.
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Got this for switch and played through the main game. The story was such an incredible ride. Every time I thought I figured the story out or it was nearing the end, they threw something else at me. Even with the good ending this got me very emotional. Beautiful art too.
Currently working on the prequel game and though it's not quite as good I'm still enjoying it.
No. 191894
>>191876pirate that shit girl.
>https://nyaa.si/view/1181305also, on the trans stuff: i wouldn't really call it that. it's a case of a child genius having a split personality, and that split personality just so happens to be a girl. been a solid two years since i read through ciconia but i don't recall any angst over dysphoria or the character's body not matching up with their mental state or whatever.
in the end i don't know you, so i can't tell you if it's worth reading through or not, but i personally enjoyed it quite a bit.
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Our Life: Beginnings & Always.
It's so heart warming and charming. Wish Cove was realexcept his eyebrows
No. 191934
>>191923We need an otome game thread imo
I was going to make one and use an Angelique 1 pic for the OP but I forgot
No. 191935
>>191785Kudos to you anon for playing with OG sprites, they were a bit too much for me, so I went for the console ones. I recommend at least getting the voice patch, really enhances the experience… once you get past Satoko's voice. Overall the fan patches at 07th-Mod are superb, let you freely switch between sprites, music etc - check it out if you haven't.
I enjoyed the Higurashi series very much, to me it's one of the best this medium has to offer. It's not perfect, the slice of life elements were tedious to get through at times, but the mystery is nicely crafted and even knowing the plot it was a very enjoyable read.
Tbh I prefer it over Umineko, which seems to be the more like one in the west.
No. 191972
>>191923Agreed, this was a fun one. I'm unpatiently waiting to be able to romance
and bully the smug rich guy.
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saw this being promoted on twitter. call me a weab if you must but this kind of shit exemplifies why i avoid western otome. the art is usually shit (while eastern vns do have mainstream animu style, they at least employ technical skill) what gets me is that indie devs love catering to troons. yes i am still heartbroken that the hot vampire guy from dream daddy was a tif sorry to sperg. if any of you know of actual decent western otome please let me know.
No. 194360
>>194348bump
yeah, it looks like a below standard """ironic visual""" that's been slowly becoming irrelevant. i feel like i've seen these character archetypes in the western comic/art/game sphere like a billion fuckin' times.
No. 194377
>>193027I loved 999 but havent played the sequel yet. I kept seeing people saying that VLR is good but ZTD is shit on /v/, and it's not like I trust these people for everything but I've been told more about the development for both games and it makes sense. Apparently ZTD's original script was completely redone because the writer wanted more plot twists for the sake of it. 999 is an excellent self contained story so I don't want to have it ruined with bad sequels.
>>194348Looks like shit to me.
>>194360 is right, looks like an "ironic dating sim" made for people who would find a normal, well-written and straight-forward visual novel "cringe" and who thought the KFC visual novel was innovative. No thanks.
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>>194348I was absolutely obsessed with Cinderella Phenomenon in high school. It has
a crossdressing character, but it's plot relevant
and nothing tranny pandering. When I was even younger, I also loved Autumns Journey. Both are free, CinPhen you can find on Steam while AJ is to be found on lemmasoft forums.
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>>194348>if any of you know of actual decent western otome please let me know.I don't know why western dating sims get shit on so much. When they're catering to freaks like this I can understand, but otome have just as many retarded tropes you have to wade through. The good western ones generally incorporate much more customization and choice-centric gameplay than otome (you can still have your own personality rather than one catered to your love interest) with more outspoken heroines. Here are some I've enjoyed. Some of them have minor queerio aspects like being able to choose pronouns but nothing over the top.
>The Arcana: A Mystic Romance>The Confines of the Crown>Ambition: A Minuet in Power >Aloners (the Wilder stories from this dev are also good)>Errant Kingdom (not complete but pretty far along/their game When the Night Comes is finished though)>Demonheart>Red Embrace: Hollywood>Our Life: Beginnings & Always>Ebon Light No. 194493
>>194487Sonnet009 is such a great writer! It was so nice to have a comprehensive focus on a single relationship with a number of different ways to approach it. Trash is a sweetheart and felt like a real person.
>my choices are not just [be uwu submissive to him] or [be a rude bitch for no reason]Kek exactly. I crave more nuance then nice/mean, I want to be able to gently tease my love interest, stand against his decisions sometimes and still be respected, have him show interest in my character rather than just infodumping his tragic backstory. The majority of these games actually allow this rather than the player just being railroaded into a single "true" path.
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>>194348I can ignore the fact the elf is a they/them, but please tell me the demon Stacy and goblin guy are cis. Please let me have nice things.
Btw, as anyone ever heard of or played Signed, Sealed, Delivered with a Kiss? I bought it and regret it. The gist is that you raise the interest to suit your tastes, but I quit early in because the mc was so hateful. I can understand being a bit prickly given the situation that a android won't leave you alone, but I understand why this bitch is friendless. She's just angry, harsh,
toxic and unforgiving. That's not even the worst part though: The narrative tries to explain why mc is the way that she is because she had cold parents and felt lonely or whatever. Also, she's some super edgy hacker or whatever idfk. all I remember is that she had no reason to be the way she was and was just a person meant to be forever alone. She was
cruel to the android who was literally basically an infant and could only depend on her. I just don't get how you can make a dating sim and make the mc do everything in her power to be as unlovable as possible and actually prevent the romance part of the whole game. I walked away from this game wondering why the fuck they made it.
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This seems to be an unpopular opinion because everytime people mention her they do it to hate on her writing but I am a genuine fan of Sakurai. I read all the translated VNs of her Steampunk series, especially Sekien no Inganock is one of my favorite VNs out there. Love the art the VNs have, the colors and designs and her writing style is weird but I always liked it for feeling so, dunno, fairytale-like? I think it gives it a distinctive style.
I also love Hoshizora Meteor VNs (Forest, Fate/Hollow Ataraxia, Mahoutsukai no Yoru). They are both Type-Moon related lol
But in general I read all kinds of VNs besides those that bore me (generic harem or SoL VNs). Like so many others I started with short VNs, namely Narcissu and Saya no Uta (Nitro+ is almost always good, including Chiral).
A short VN I absolutely recommend is "True Remembrance"! The artstyle looks amateurish, but I got used to it fast and the story is absolute top. Avoid it if you aren't into bittersweet stories though.
I am also a huge fan of Umineko and other Ryukishi stuff. Reading Uminenko "live" and discussing the newest part to hell and back was one of the most entertaining things I experienced. The OST was one of the best I heard as well and I cannot thank R07 enough for this series and I am eager to see his future projects.
>>256751I don't believe it fully, but I believe that he influenced him a lot. I think Ryukishi thought up the stories and like two genuinely close friends that fanboy or fangirl like crazy they discussed it together and that gives you a LOT of input.
I don't mean monologues and your friend nodding, but a friend that IS fan of what you are fan of and a fan of you. Just talking with them can be incredibly productive and this is what Ryukishi is missing now. Sadly.
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I just binged AI the somnium files and really loved, it and have been playing Nirvana Initiative, but I’m starting to get to my limit with the authors treatment of the female characters. It wasn’t good in AITSF but hearing the sex jokes from a big busty brown dominatrix character (I love Tama otherwise but hate this aspect of her character) and the specific portrayal of a grown man creeping on a high school girl in this one is really irritating me. I’m gonna try to finish it, I only just started the Mizuki route, but I have a strong feeling I won’t like it as much.
No. 257757
>>191808>>191823I didn't know what anyone thought about it, i checked it out because i found it on steam and the art was really pretty
I loved it too, i didn't know what to expect but i wasn't let down, didn't really like the backgrounds because they had a lot of contrast with the character art
No. 257759
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i was always fascinated with Saya No Uta, i like almost everything about it because it feels very disturbing but i despise all the loli/sexual aspects of it
was it really necessary? why couldn't it be just a creepy and disturbing VN without the forced explicit stuff, it doesn't make it any better
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>>257759Because gen urobuchi is a major creep and pedo, can't believe that a lot of people still like Madoka knowing he also wrote Saya no Uta, thought he would've been cancelled by the twitter crowd at this point.
Other than that, I do agree with you. Actually my favorite parts were definitely when fuminori and saya weren't present at all. I swear ryoko could've been one of my favorite female characters, if only she wasn't in this lolishit game. Wish I never played it at all especially since I was underaged when I did and it made me sick when I was reading it. Even more so when scrotes only love this game because of the romantic pedo stuff.
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>>257747>specific portrayal of a grown man creeping on a high school girlOh no, not this again… I haven't been able buy AiNi yet, but played the first game some time ago and while the story was lackluster for the most part imo (compared to some of other games Uchikoshi has written at least), the characters were so fun it glued me to the console. I was pretty excited for the sequel, I'm sad he is back on that bullshit, it was already bad on VLR
specially after Sigma's plot twist and there was some in the original AITSF, but since the protagonist was a girl this time around I thought that would be gone for the most part. Never underestimate a man who thinks with his dick I guess….
I fell in love with Tama's design when she was revealed and hope she isn't too bad in-game. I expected her to be the carrier of horny jokes but I don't find them as irritating if it's a female character saying them, so I guess I will stand her. I haven't bought a single DLC in my life, but I'm even considering buying the kimono one because she and Aiba look too adorable with them on.
No. 257875
>>257759I loved SnU but I never understood why so many people think that little girls that are actually evil trope was shocking and creepy. Not talking about loli but in general, it's a popular trope in western horror too and it NEVER worked for me.
I think it would have been way better if Saya was some sickly looking, mysterious and pale adult woman with an ephemeral beauty that makes he feel ghostlike and unreal which she actually is. It works so much better when you realise she is actually a horrible eldritch abomination in that case, moe lolis are neither unworldly nor genuinely pretty so they feel shoved in to attract otaku.
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Last Legacy is a defunct VN that had so much potential to be amazing, I still have so much love for it someone please mourn with me. The art & writing team jumped ship once their contracts were up because the company running the show was dogshit, then the company went under, and last I checked from what I understand another company bought the game but hasn't updated it in a year. RIP
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anyone else here who played/are playing slow damage? I just cleared the game the other day.
No. 261427
>>261420Umineko (Higurashi's sister game) is pretty great, though not really all that horror oriented to me (it's more focused on murder mystery stuff over being scary).
Totono is pretty great if you can get past the scrote shit in it.
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Damn I was looking up the reading time for Aoi Shiro because I wanted to recommend someone this VN since it's one of the best I have read and now I coincidentally see that it's not only getting a remaster and official English release, Akai Ito, an older VN by the same team, is getting the same treatment.
The latter was never translated afaik so this is fucking awesome, I always wanted to read this.
https://www.gematsu.com/2022/09/akai-ito-aoi-shiro-hd-remaster-announced-for-switch-pcI would recommend Aoi Shiro to everybody that likes yuri, supernatural things and Japanese mythology. I cannot really describe it, it's not exactly horror, but not far from it either. The atmosphere it had was cool, I was interested finding more hints that explained the characters and mysteries and the title is fitting because most of it takes place in the night, so many scenes have this blue hue that made it special.
Think it was also the only VN with I think 40 and more different bad endings where you had to play every one of them to understand 100% of the story. I like it when bad ends aren't shitty 5 minute scenes without CGI but story relevant.
No. 261447
>>191808Is it true that this game has a lot of troon shit in it? It's hard to get a clear answer without outing myself as a
terf given how dense it seems to be and how prone to latching onto shit troons are.
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This shit was great, despite loli fanservice and ass-poor translation. I highly recommend. Plus that Nice Boat at the end.
No. 276457
>>276425You're telling me this
isn't a lolicon porn game?
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Learning japanese just to play the rance series rn, specifically the 3rd one since i finished the first two and i'm obsessed with it, even though it's very scrotey.
>>257759The loli shit ruined saya entirely, gen urobuchi is a talentless pedo coomer and saya was his only work with potential so it's a shame it was ruined with that ugly fucking kid.
>>261420Subahibi is a good psychological horror vn, but i recommend with caution. It's one of the most disturbing things i've played but there are very gratutious amounts of rape (only two are story relevant though) and other fetish shit which is frustrating because it nails down the horror parts so well but there's so much rape/scrotery that you can't just avoid it. Sayooshi too, but same warning applies.
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>>276437It's on Steam, anon. There is 0 sex in it.
>>276449You haven't even read it, yet you have the gall to shit on it…to feel self-righteous, I guess?
>>276457>>276457It isn't:
>https://vndb.org/v16714 No. 276475
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>>276427It does have lolifag pandering, sadly, but it's not a major distraction.
The plot is two-tier - from the point of view of an adult, and from the point of view of a little girl (you can only unlock the second point of view after you've finished the first).
It's 1998 and a guy from Taiwan moves to Indonesia and starts living with a friend and his daughter. Lots of crappily-translated brooding about religion, society, cultural differences, shitting on Chicoms follows. Household drama and school shenanigans ensue. Then the 1998 riots happen and shit hits the fan. The Nice Boat is both literal and metaphorical.
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>>276492You think VNs are normal? Even Higurashi has loli pandering. But I guess it's fine, because normalfags have 'sanctified' it and given their seal of approval, hence it's okay and not creepy at all to like it? How can you be such a sheep?
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>>276509>>276507If you hate the medium so much, what are you even doing in this thread? Looking for non-
problematic, Western VNs with 'representation' and 'healthy' relationships?
No. 276661
>>276517Nice try but visual novels are not all porn or pedo bait. The genre evolved through
both otaku trash and mystery/horror games with "normie" appeal, but most importantly the latter. Hating the degenerate otaku incel side of the genre is not the same as hating the medium itself. That's like saying we hate online video sharing because we hate porn sites specifically. Eroge ≠ visual novel, plus non-eroge VNs didn't suddenly stop being made as soon as porn became popular within the genre, which is something even absolute VN beginners should know. And it's an objective fact that most anime-style visual novels such as Saya no Uta would be infinitely better without all the rape, guro, pedophilia and general scrote degeneracy (only a porn addict would think it adds anything of value).
Also, the fact that the vast majority of VNs are a product of horny Japanese incels being pedos and potential rapists doesn't mean shit; at least 90% of all VNs are shit-quality garbage, whether they try to hide it behind a pretentious plot or not. Besides, the only reasons porn VNs are so common is because the average adult moid who was a computer geek and a gamer in the early days of VNs was also a deviant anime fan, and because scrotes always make porn versions of everything (as you may know, VNs were not the only genre of eroge in the PC-88 days, since there were a lot of low-effort puzzle and card games of that kind as well).
There
are good VNs, both from Japan and other countries, that don't have that kind of content, and we're here to discuss those mainly. You just haven't heard about many of them because ironically you only prefer a certain kind of VN that is favored by insufferable weeb porn addicts and never step out of your comfort zone while dismissing anything that doesn't appeal to you specifically.
Gatekeeping visual novels from "normies" is pretty retarded when there are several VNs that have become popular in Japan with the exact same kind of crowd you hate, but I guess since that crowd is Japanese, you don't mind since you're a delusional megaweeb and think Japanese people are muh master race who have a right to enjoy things unlike those icky Westerners (who of course are all SJWs for not wanting to see disgusting and unnecessary porn, misogyny and pedophilia in the story they're reading). You know, maybe the problem isn't that everyone else are normie prudes and SJWs who would never "get it", maybe the problem is that you're sick in the head and think that shit is not only ok, but necessary and good. You insist so much on being such an obnoxious and pedantic know-nothing, that everyone can see you're only gatekeeping obscure and overrated hobbies on an anonymous imageboard this hard because it's the only way for you to feel good about yourself, and/or feel like you're "one of the boys at 4chan" (that is, if you aren't a moid yourself). You also reek of pathetic /a/ newfag trying to fit in; I'm sorry but they'll never fuck you. You're a certified low IQ autist and should go back to 4scrote, or maybe go back to the VNDB forums to cry about them stupid normie femoids not getting the ~deep~ philosophical messages in your favorite loli rape "masterpiece".
Vid related, it's about the history of visual novels. Maybe you should watch it before trying to gatekeep something you know nothing about.
(Sage because I don't wanna bump with a rant)
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>>276521>nobody normal reads visual novels periodWhy are you in this thread again? To shit on freak media freak people enjoy? Find a better use of your time.
>>276600>Everything I Hate Is Loli Pr0n!Do you have a disorder that makes you overreact to anything that you find
triggering? I'm not even going into your attempts at backseat-moderating as if this thread was the last accessible page on the internet.
>>276661>and we're here to discuss those mainly.Who gave you the right to decide what should or shouldn't be discussed in this thread?
>Gatekeeping visual novels from "normies"It's the opposite. You're the one limiting VN discussion to what you personally find acceptable. That's also gatekeeping.
>You know, maybe the problem isn't that everyone else are normie prudes and SJWs who would never "get it", maybe the problem is that you're sick in the head and think that shit is not only ok, but necessary and good. You insist so much on being such an obnoxious and pedantic know-nothing, that everyone can see you're only gatekeeping obscure and overrated hobbies on an anonymous imageboard this hard because it's the only way for you to feel good about yourself, and/or feel like you're "one of the boys at 4chan" (that is, if you aren't a moid yourself). You also reek of pathetic /a/ newfag trying to fit in; I'm sorry but they'll never fuck you. You're a certified low IQ autist and should go back to 4scrote, or maybe go back to the VNDB forums to cry about them stupid normie femoids not getting the ~deep~ philosophical messages in your favorite loli rape "masterpiece".Are you ok in the head? This is some astronomic projection. And again the topic is an indie game that doesn't even have any romance or sex in it.
Please take your meds ASAP.
No. 276961
>>276943>not wanting to talk about my loli trash is also gatekeeping because wahhhh I wanna talk about itI find it hilarious that this autist wants to gatekeep and turn this place into a lolifag circlejerk but also complains about
our own gatekeeping that we specifically do (not just in this thread but on the whole site) to keep disgusting newfag creeps like him out.
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Any nonnas play the demo? If so what did you think of it
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any nonnies know of subarashiki hibi? I read it a few years ago then decided to re-read out of nostalgia, it’s definitely not for everyone and the fanbase consists of 14-16 year old girls who would post themselves on /r9k/ for attention
No. 285717
>>285678NTA but how is it?
>>285712I have not read it but I'm so curious because it's infamous for pseudointellectual and edgy to hilarious levels.
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>>285712I fucking LOOOOOVE subahibi, my favorite vn ever actually. That also made me wonder why subahibi attracts those kind of people kek, especially since those people tend to be TIFs who are usually sjws, must be the same phenomena as south park fans.
No. 292861
>>256751Amazingly late to this but i must be the other BT tinfoil believer in this whole website kek. I wish i opened this thread before.
Twittertards will say that theory is overreaching but back in the day if you got deeply enough into umineko to follow the interviews and kept up with what was going on with 07th expansion you'd notice how very upset ryukishi was at the absence of that guy. Past ep6 he would constantly reference the absence of someone that left and yada yada plus him dedicating ep8 to "his beloved Beatrice" lmao you can't make this shit up. Plus the obvious quality drop in his works it's the most obvious hint that some big change happened within his team lmao.
That said, im gonna cut Ryu some slack and say i don't believe BT was his ghostwriter but more like a co-writer. Honestly I personally believe many of the answers to the umineko mystery are gone with him and that Ryu doesnt know all of them and that's why the official answer at times feels like a piece of fanfiction plus the fact he seemed to have no idea of how to properly end umineko by EP8 and left things in the open for so long… But that's just my opinion of course!
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https://vndb.org/v13871Was browsing vndb earlier and stumbled upon this, why the fuck this disgusting ass “game” is even allowed to exist is beyond me, seeing that it was created by people on the German equivalent of 4chan isn’t shocking in the slightest. Hope the creators get lynched.
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Any good Yumejo games with H-scenes? Looking through steam because I wanna get a new VN but can't find anything that quite fits my taste.
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Can you tell me how have the sexual content is in this one? I'm boycotting Steam (it has the clean version), so my only option is the MG shop where the game is uncensored (I think?). Is it just a single short scene that can be easily skipped?
No. 364716
>>359486Late but the version on MangaGamer contains the Refrain edition, which is the one sold on Steam, as well as the original. So, if you're trying to avoid that kind of content altogether, you can just choose to play Refrain. From my understanding, buying it off of MG gets you both.
>>362288Aw, what was so bad about Sayooshi? I haven't read it, but everything I've seen has been so positive.
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>>364716Not that person and old post but Sayooshi is filled with horrible torture porn, it's supposed to be this study of the main character's psyche (he's a mentally ill teacher) but spends so much time on the edgy teenage girl rape scenes it kind of takes away from what it was trying to do. It goes into the girls and has decent writing, but at the same time it feels overly edgy and graphic, especially on the twintail girl's route. It's mostly praised by people who haven't even read it (or read a machine translated version of it since there's no official tl as far as I know) and are drawn in by the denpa aesthetic which is admittedly pretty cool like picrel since that's trendy nowadays with edgy egirls.
No. 369844
>>369833I'm actually the anon who asked about it, and I appreciate that you took the time to type out a reply, even if my post is old. I really like the denpa genre, and reading Sayooshi has been a goal of mine. This is a little disappointing to hear, but I guess it's not wholly unexpected. I was drawn in by the art style, genre, and high praise (and, you know, the fact that it's considered one of the 'big three' denpa games), but I guess it's one of those VNs that will receive a bunch of negative feedback if it ever gets an official TL for being overrated. I'm still interested in it because of the influence it had on the genre, but I understand it's probably not as great as I built it up in my head to be.
>there's no official tl as far as I knowYou are correct; there isn't. You probably already know about this, but there was a guy who tried to make a fan translation a couple of years ago, but he got so much negative feedback for its quality that he deleted it from the internet shortly after the patch released. I'm now wondering how bad the TL actually was (I never read it), and how much of the 'poor quality' was due to the VN's inherent flaws. It could be either because I didn't keep up with the discussions about it.
>>369843I was trying to go into Sayooshi completely blind whenever I was able to read it, so I'm completely unaware of what the twist is. I'm usually good at guessing twists, though, so that's also not promising kek.
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>>369833Yeah I wasn't a fan either, I love psychological horror when it actually has a point but Sayooshi is just a bunch of rape and then
lol actually he was just in a mental hospital and fucking around with inanimate objects/animals (except for angel girl) the whole time, the game having every ending be the same really added to the 'this is pointless and just here for a bunch of boring rape scenes' to me, it's not even like they're particularly disturbing they're just boring as fuck, the only real point of discussion comes from 'did Hitomi actually stick his dick in a brain and a crow or- No. 369864
>>369845>>369846Original anon who posted about sayooshi, I'm reading subahibi right now (in the middle of looking glass insects) and I absolutely adore it! The scenes of Mamiya screaming in particular send huge chills down my spine
the scene with the teacher was a bit much for me though, one of those times in a VN where I actually had to sit for a second to recover from how disturbed I was lol, it definitely succeeded in freaking me out though which was really fantastic on the writer's part It's a really fun game to think and theorize about and I can hardly put it down hahaha!
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>>369844I was worried it'd be weird to reply to something old but glad it was useful. If you like denpa and that type of aesthetic, you could still see for yourself someday, since you might like it more than me. I actually didn't know that about the tl but it doesn't surprise me. It was probably more due to the tl quality since a lot of those amateur tls can be pretty awful. I learned japanese partially so I wouldn't have to deal with that anymore
>>369863Yeah that's exactly how I felt lol. Nice fanart though.
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>>369864It's great you're enjoying it! Yeah, the
teacher scene might be the only time in a VN where I've felt viscerally uncomfortable with something. Generally, I'm just not fazed by stuff, but that one got to me for some reason. It's really a great VN, so I hope you enjoy it until the end! Inventions was my favorite chapter, but I think there are interesting elements in all of them.
>>370051I'll definitely give it a try one day, whether if it gets a good TL or if I'm ever able to read it in its original form. I'm usually able to find positives in anything I read, whether books or VNs. If anything, it was good for me to be given realistic expectations.
>>370055There was a little bit of controversy when it released due to them changing the original narration from 3rd to 1st person. I also noticed that one of the translators has, across multiple games, used the phrase, "tongues battling for dominance," which I don't love.
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I finished the first chapter (episode?) of Higurashi a while ago, and was surprised by how much I enjoyed it. Unfortunately, someone ruined for me that they're apparently in a time loop, Rika is aware of the loop, and Mion has an evil twin or something? I'm a little disappointed by both of these revelations, partially because I hate having twists spoiled for me and also because they sound absolutely ridiculous out of context. Has anyone finished Higurashi, and is it worth continuing? I like Higurashi's character writing, the rural setting, and the horror elements. I even find the goofy sprites with their misshapen hands endearing, but I don't know if it's worth trudging through something 1 million words long when I know as much as I do, especially when it sound kind of dumb. For anyone who's played it, how badly has this been ruined for me, and how stupid does it get later?
No. 370356
>>370307>Has anyone finished Higurashi, and is it worth continuing?Yes
I like it better with the PS3 patch though because the sprites are better and there’s CGs+voice acting
No. 370522
>>370307I first read Higurashi a few years ago and I was surprised at how much I enjoyed it as well.
I've since read all of the main series' visual novels and IMO they're worth the read even if you know some spoilers
since the first three games get explained in the games after anyways and TBH knowing some things beforehand probably makes the stories less confusing.I went into the first game thinking it'd just be edgy and fanservice-y with no substance (I was in my early twenties and wasn't fond of typical teen anime anymore) but genuinely started liking the characters and got successfully unnerved by a few of the scenes lol.
It does drag on at parts though, I think it took me around 15 hours to read through each game, but that might be cuz I'm a slow reader.
I won't argue that some of the plot points are dumb either, I just became so endeared to the characters and story after like 40 hours of reading that I didn't care anymore when they happened.
You should check the 07th-Mod if you don't want to play the vanilla game, it adds options for voice acting, cutscene art, multiple sprites, etc.
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>>369864On Jabberwocky
I really really really hate Mamiya’s little sister and I’m sad she doesn’t die (at least to my knowledge) and I’m glad her doll got torn up in front of her. How dare she want to deprave me the reader of Mamiya kun,little incest bitch. Doesn’t help that I’m not enjoying this chapter as much as the others, Yuuki is pretty boring and I don’t like how much they changed Yuki’s personality from the previous chapters, she had more bite and hated men before… No. 371019
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>>370779Why care about any other character in Subahibi when Takuji exists?
I didn't care for Tomosane or the shitty little sister, either kek. There's a very clear 'best' ending from my perspective, and it's the best because they're involved in it the least. I personally found Tomosane to be one of the weakest of the POV characters, and I would've preferred if the girls weren't all falling over themselves for him when he's so boring. I don't know what point you're at in the story, so approach this next spoiler with caution, but
the Yuki in that chapter is different from the Yuki in Jabberwocky. I forget when this is explained, though. No. 371101
>>371061NAYRT but it's very funny to me that
incest is where the people you recommend it to draw the line and not all the other insane shit that also goes on in Subahibi. Like, yeah, that's bad, but I can think of several other things listed on VNDB that also initially scared me off of playing.
The tag would probably still be present, even without the stupid stuff with Hasaki because of the teacher, though.>Tsui no SoraVery much agree. I really hope they see it through to the end. I know there have been failed attempts at a Tsui no Sora TL in the past, which makes me a little nervous. I saw where Kusarihime, Umi kara Kuru Mono, and Shizuku are also getting fan translations, which are supposed to be well-liked denpa games. No clue on the VNs' actual quality, but I'm hopeful.
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>>371019Real. Just finished all the endings
and I just stand by Kimika's ending with Mamiya kun as the canon one, the final ending with Ayana wasn't bad (definitely the best thing post Jabberwocky) but it didn't have nearly enough time to flesh it out, they'll spend hours on the shitty siscon but not Ayana huh? [spoiler]
>>371061
[spoiler] The game really should have just ended after looking glass insect, it gives Zakuro's backstory and a nice 'what if' scenario for her and Kimika to be happy together. I think the twist just felt really forced and like it was only there because they realized it would have been really fucked up if everyone was actively wishing for Mamiya Takuji to die and for Yuki and Tomosane to take his place. Despite their attempts to make Tomosane the 'likable' one he always just came off as a shitty self insert siscon and Takuji actually came off as far more sympathetic to meStill rate it an 8/10 but I would have rated it a 10/10 if it wasn't for the stuff after looking glass insects.
>I heard Tsui no Sora is getting a translation, so I'm interested to see what the "original" Subahibi is like compared to the one we got years later.Same, seems like it should be done fairly soon and I've heard it's majority schizo fun so it's possible I'll end up rating it higher than Subahibi kek.
>>371101NTA
the issue for me isn't that it's incest, the issue is that the characters are god awful and actively make the plot worse, spending several hours with the okama and the pedophile and Yuki turning into a huge bimbo doesn't help No. 371113
>>371101It's a bit like (sorry to bring up this meme game) The Coffin of Andy and Leyley in that respect and that game even lampshaded the fact that
there's murder, cannibalism, satanic cults etc and yet it's the incest that upsets people the most.I agree that
there's much more disturbing content in Subahibi than the incest, the painful scenes with the teacher, the hedge clipper scene, short bestiality scene, gay rape, the fucking desk, the entire End Sky mass suicide, Takuji's actual schizophrenia and pretty much everything with Zakuro. Actually, I was surprised how decently Looking Glass Insects was written, apparently the writer had researched accounts of girls getting bullied and it kinda hit home to me a lot. Similarly with Takuji's mental illness, the way his crippling social anxiety leads to him being consumed by all kinds of delusions. The scene where he's being chased by weird anxiety demons chanting Lovecraftian shit jumpscared the fuck out of me.As for the TL, it's always a crapshoot whether a fan TL ever finishes. People used to joke about Gore Screaming Show being cursed due to having so many failed fan TLs and it was a surprise that JAST licensed it a few years back. There's so many old denpa or denpa-esque games that probably never will get official or fan TLs, like Jisatsu no Tame no 101 no Houhou. I need my schizo VN fix.
>>371108I'm glad you agree that the latter routes don't really add much aside from making things more convoluted. The ending songs for
Looking Glass Insects and Takuji's Kimika ending are the best vocal songs too imo.
No. 371123
>>371108AYRT and yes, objectively correct takes all around. I rated it a little higher than you did, but I agree with everything you said, including the criticisms. For me, my enjoyment of the first half
as well as the ending with Ayana outweighed the flaws, but I can understand the latter chapters harming your enjoyment. Takuji is the best character and anyone who disagrees can fight me kek. I personally hated
Tomosane because he felt like a shitty, generic hero character, and I despise that. Like, in a game where everyone else was so flawed, he was such an obvious self-insert and unambiguously portrayed as the "good guy." The fact that he wasn't voice acted in original releases only makes it more obvious. Also, I feel like Tomosane being the 'original personality' was an excuse to make it okay for Tomosane to 'take back his original body,' which you alluded to. Still, Takuji is ENTIRELY UNAWARE of any of this multiple personality business, so it's still fucked up regardless. The Kimika Ending is the best ending, although the next chapter is worth going through for the Zakuro/Takuji parallels in Insects (I have ranted to people about this in real life and will refrain from doing so here, but there is so much symbolism and their stories serve as great contrasts to one another).>>371113Also AYRT and I agree! I didn't mean to sound like I thought the
teacher scene and the stuff with Hasaki was the same tonally, just that it would look the same from an outsider's perspective looking at the tags alone. I think the Andy and Leyley comparison is apt; there is a difference between disturbing content and content that is 'disturbing' but intended to excite the viewer.
>gay rapeIt's very funny to see men get filtered by this one, though.
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>>371123I wish I could find the one meme of the guy jumping out a window and running away with tags from subahibi on it, with the final one being "okama support character", but it's buried in another HDD.
If anything, the siscon stuff was boring compared to the mental illness/denpa aspects of the previous routes. Jabberwocky really felt tacked onto the rest of the game.I really wish people didn't instantly check out the tags for VNs, even if spoilers are turned off. With games like subahibi, it ruins the experience if you don't go in blind.
>>371126I agree with you on Tomosane being irritating and not relatable compared to Takuji. I wonder if SCA-JI was trying to make some commentary on traumatised coomer otaku being evil or some shit, to spite the coomer otaku who play eroge like subahibi? It's obnoxious how much the game sucks off Tomosane when he's a fucking asshole like you said.
Kimika was too good for that world… Both of her endings make me tear up every single time…To the nonna that just finished subahibi, what do you plan on reading next? I'm currently meandering through Togainu no Chi because Midorikawa plays a character in it who's sadly unlockable lol…
No. 371131
>>371126Yeah, Tomosane's aggression felt really misplaced and over-the-top. I can't even say he's a good brother (which could have been a redeeming quality) because he wants to fuck his sister! I do think a lot of people find him sympathetic, but only because he was built to be projected onto. Also, I was not in love with the implication in the backstory that Takuji was just born fucked up. I don't know if that was the author's intention, but his mother was legitimately abusive, and in a manner that felt much more realistic than with Hasaki. Again, I don't know if making Takuji seem inherently evil was the author's intention in the backstory chapter, but it sure felt that way. I get why he would have acted that way because of his mom, but it would've been nice to see more acknowledgment of how her treatment very obviously shaped him into the person he is. I really wish Tomosane's character had been omitted; even making Yuki take over most of Tomosane's role in the story could have fixed it. Kimika is a great character, and while I'm sure you're probably already aware of this, while most Subahibi characters have a TnS equivalent, she was an entirely original addition to Subahibi. I really liked her endings with both Takuji and Zakuro, and I cannot imagine what TnS is like without her. I'll shut up about Subahibi now, but I've really liked reading everyone's opinions. Hoping for that TnS translation. It's listed at 100% on VNDB, but I'll believe it when I see it.
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>>371130>Kimika was too good for that world… Both of her endings make me tear up every single time…
same, she's one of those characters that makes you tear up because she didn't deserve anything that happened to her and was driven so far into a corner that death probably was her best option sadly.
>what do you plan on reading next?Shuuen no Virche! After that probably Paradise.
>I'm currently meandering through Togainu no ChiIt's a fun VN, very peak 2006 but I wouldn't expect god tier writing from it. Keisuke and Rin have the best routes.
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>>371131It genuinely feels like they were written by two separate groups, especially since my own invention seems to imply that a large portion of why Mamiya is the way he is is because his mom did all kinds of abusive stuff like pour boiling water on him but then they just sort of ignore that and have him be a typical evil mommy's boy character? The whole backstory creates more plot holes if anything, like why is Mamiya so shy and submissive when he's apparently been an evil cult leader baby since childhood? If it's meant to be the idea that he's only like that around Tomo then that also doesn't make sense since he's deathly afraid of him.For the laughs I'm gonna watch the tsui no sora OVA though, which has a sick 2.26 average rating ands looks absolute QUALITY.
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>>371135I hope we get Pigeon's Blood after Paradise. That game always interested me due to it's unabashedly edgy premise. I'll be playing Masquerade when that releases, weirdly enough I was trying to get hold of a copy of it just before it had its official release announced. Guess I'm lucky lol.
Maybe one day we'll get Shingakkou. It had a version without voices iirc so maybe we could get that (Koihime Musou's english release didn't originally have voices back in the early days of Mangagamer, only later when they were doing better financially) since Masquerade is another PIL/SLASH title? I tried to read Shingakkou in Japanese but the religious language was hard to understand.
Please, I need the dorky Russian prefect voiced by Midorikawa…Also, give me Chiral fumos, Nitroplus, reeeee.
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>>371136>tsui no sora OVAKek Have fun(?), nona! I tried to find it a few years ago and never did get around to it. It looks absolutely hilarious.
>>371139>ShingakkouI want Shingakkou so bad, more than any other untranslated VN out there. I don't care about the voices. I don't care about anything. I just want to see the
evil priest. JAST's announcement of PIL/SLASH games has made me so delusional about Shingakkou having a chance of getting a TL.
>MasqueradeI'm still on the fence about Masquerade, personally, because there doesn't appear to be much in the way of story. I'll probably wait for reviews, personally, but hopefully you'll enjoy it!
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>>371139Even for me it seems a little edgy kek, if it's translated I'll play it though.
Masquerade looks really realy mediocre to me, but it's pretty old so I'm not that surprised.
>Maybe one day we'll get ShingakkouThat's what all us fujoshis hope for…
>Also, give me Chiral fumos, NitroplusI like the GIFT plushies more, but I'd settle for fumos of Slow Damage's cast.
>>371142>It looks absolutely hilarious.It is, it's only 20 minutes long though so absolutely nothing makes sense.
No. 371151
>>371142Yeah from what I've seen of Masquerade, it's a weird sadistic nukige where a homophobic dude with a gun just waltzes into a school… and tells the other characters to start doing gay stuff while he holds them hostage. JAST does like to test the water for VN brands by doing the smaller nukiges first so I'm praying every night to Father August that we'll get our seminary murder mystery game sometime this decade.
>>371143https://vndb.org/v10773This one, didn't know there was a het one.
>>371144Masquerade does have some pretty mediocre artwork and like I said, a weird premise. I'm hoping to get some laughs out of it at least.
>>371149Ahh yeah, that is true… That's why I found the short manga adaption of Neil's route to be kinda trash, aside from it skipping through the story in like 10 or so chapters.
I'll go back to memorizing kanji for religious terms then…
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>>371149>voice acting in Shingakkou is kind of plot relevantI have been avoiding spoilers for this game, but I'm very curious how this plays out. I assume
two characters are voiced by the same person, and it turns out they're the same character? If not, I'm genuinely at a loss.
>>371151>JAST does like to test the water for VN brands by doing the smaller nukigesYou are feeding my Shingakkou delusion, and now, I'm rethinking my decision of not getting Masquerade, even though it doesn't look like my thing lol. I did pre-order Paradise, though, because it allegedly actually has a plot.
>>371144>Slow DamageUnrelated, but do you all think there is a chance of JAST doing that mobile game spin-off? I've been racking my brain trying to think of what else JAST could translate since they've exhausted N+C's catalogue, and besides moving to PIL/SLASH titles, that's about all I can think of them doing that would generate much buzz.
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>>371153>but do you all think there is a chance of JAST doing that mobile game spin-off?Probably not, JAST seems very into doing the bare minimum for a game even if it sells well like the nitro chiral titles.
I haven't played clean dishes but according to my friend who played a bit of it, it's crazy fucking hard to keep the protagonist from killing himself kek.
>that's about all I can think of them doing that would generate much buzz.They sold a crazy amount of Saya plushies (they completely sold out within less than a day) so I'm guessing they might continue with that?
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>>371151>I'll go back to memorizing kanji for religious terms thenLearn them as you read! I used a jp to eng dictionary and would come across English words I didn’t know and still somehow managed to play it. If you have basic Christianity knowledge I’m sure you can do it.
>>371153>spoilerThat’s also true but not what I meant.
There's a character who can perfectly imitate the voices of others, it’s pretty obvious who he is to us readers but not to Michael. In one h-scene he rapes Michael and uses his father's voice as if Michael is having sex with him instead. Kino.
No. 371159
>>371154>it's crazy fucking hard to keep the protagonist from killing himselfKek it's a shame we'll probably never get it in English because having a ton of bad endings sounds entertaining. I really like the white-haired character's design. I also know Eiji is supposed to be in it, and he was my favorite character.
>sold a crazy amount of Saya plushiesRight, I more meant in terms of BL games they could localize; sorry for the confusion. I think selling plushies is a given after the Saya Fumo's wild success. I'm personally hoping for sweet pool plushies, as SP and Lamento are my favorite titles from N+C, but I'm also aware sweet pool is not as popular as their other BL games, and Lamento never got an official TL. Hopefully, JAST throws a bone to the fans of DMMD or SD, even if I personally wouldn't be interested in those.
>>371158I won't read that spoiler right now because I am going to continue to lie to myself about Shingakkou getting an English TL, but I'm sure I'll come back to it eventually because it's realistically never getting an EN release, and I don't think I can muddle through 60 hours of text I barely understand (nor would I want to experience the story that way). Thank you for explaining, though.
No. 371169
>>371161Oh god, the fact the localizers decided to change the narration from 3rd person to 1st person in Slow Damage hurt just as much as the pronoun bullshit for the flaming homos…
Idk how Mangagamer licensing Shingakkou would work out, since JAST already have a deal with them. Has there been a case where different western companies released games from the same brands? Like, Mangagamer release CLOCK-UP games and JAST do Nitroplus and Sei Shoujo stuff, I'm not sure how exclusivity works.
I'm glad Mangagamer has come a long way from when they released the Higurashi games with really shoddy translations, the fact they went back and redid the entire thing years later showed a lot of dedication. With JAST, I do feel like the BL games take a backseat in terms of translation quality compared to the moid-aimed games, but I guess that's just par for the course with VNs in general.
Speaking of moid games, I got recommended a recent release called Nie no Hakoniwa which looks like absolute misery porn with the plot centering around
a box that grants a wish if you put 8 fertile wombs in it… Makes my abdomen hurt just thinking about it. I'd rather see guys get beat up to be quite honest…
No. 371172
>>371161If you ever feel like ranting about it on here, I'd be interested in reading, as I'm sure a lot of nonas would. I can't really hold a conversation about it because I have not read it, but I like seeing people's opinions. Maybe I'll eventually work my way up to reading it, but I kind of doubt that'll ever happen.
>>371169>Has there been a case where different western companies released games from the same brands?Not just the same brand- the same VN. Kara no Shoujo and its sequel were translated by Mangagamer. Then, Shiravune somehow got the rights, and now they've released their own versions of the first two games AND are releasing the third game.
>Nie no HakoniwaI saw a discussion on VNDB where people were debating whether it was 'otome-like,' which is absolutely wild considering how ugly the male characters are kek.
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Sorry to the non subahibi fans since it's been clogging this thread, but Mamiya looks so fucking cute dressed as Riruru oh my gooood~
No. 371538
>>371527Seconding this rec. It was really enjoyable, even if parts of it were nearly incomprehensible. I'm surprised anyone else on here has played it. Some of the OST was done by the guy who did a lot of Umineko's music, if I recall?
>>371222Cute.
No. 372522
>>370307I've been aware of Higurashi ever since the first season of anime dropped and it always seemed like gorey shlock to me. I ended up reading it only in 2020 and I was genuinely surprised by how much I loved it. Weird scrote moments aside, it was really heartfelt to me and struck the right notes at the right time. I was really struggling with pent up stress and coping with paranoia, and this helped me get over it by being more open with everyone and prioritizing myself over work. The characters were all so likeable too. I especially empathized with Shion.
Umineko is the one I've seen more universally praised, and it never really hit quite the same for me. Higurashi is still dear to my heart.
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Did any of the anons interested in Sayooshi play the company's latest game (released after a 20 year gap) Geminism?
I actually enjoyed it more than Sayooshi, personally, though they aren't that similar beyond the art style.
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>>372627I usually get along with them since women got to stick together even if we have pretty different taste. I like some eroge and most of the ones I come across are just really obsessed with animecore stuff with moe girls so I can have a more normal conversation with them compared to moids who just spam retarded memes.
Also I'd rather hang out with a pick me than a fakeboi, at least pick mes don't expect you to walk on eggshells 24/7.
No. 372632
>>372630IME pickmes are prone to weird jealous two faced behavior and shitting on you/ ignoring you the moment a scrote comes into the picture and you have to walk on eggshells due to a different set of weird rules
I guess in some cases that's slightly better than claiming that liking rance makes you an Honest and True male though
No. 372634
>>372632A tif obsessed with rance sounds like a nightmare of a person to be around kek
>>372633Any lolicon is insufferable to be around, not even for moral reasons they’re just that annoying
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No. 372698
>>372653Yeah, it's kinda depressing the double standards those pick-me types have. Like euphoria, sitting through routes and routes of senseless torture with a sadistic dickhead protagonist is totally worth it because the true end is heckin' wholesome?
Give me a break, if the fact the loli character gets the worst treatment in her route didn't clue them into it being misogynistic moid slop, I really don't know how to argue with them over it. I've seen the cope of "b-but the artist is a woman!", but that means jack shit at the end of the day when the vast majority of the game is cringy edgy shit.
Rance is just self-explanatory. I think people always just hyped it up in the West due to Sengoku Rance's gameplay, which is just… mediocre. Just like the relatively recent Dohna Dohna from Alicesoft too, which has a nice soundtrack but everything else is Darkest Dungeon-lite but with ryona shit.
Gore Screaming Show isn't deep whatsoever (read it after seeing the writer from Shingakkou did some writing for it), but I'll rate it a step higher than most animecore edge games for having a protagonist who isn't a sadistic piece of shit. But then again it has the caveat of a loli heroine route, so idk if I'd ever recommend it unless someone really is scraping the barrel for horror/mystery VNs. Iirc, out of the titles that particular brand released, it's fairly tame. Praying that EXTRAVAGANZA never gets licensed, that game truly disgusted me past euphoria and Fraternite.
Or any of Cyclet's games. That shit makes me hate the Antichrist even more.It's ok to enjoy 1000 year old lolis because "i-it's deep! you don't understand the symbolism!" but the instant a woman plays a BL/otome game with teens/young adults they get burned at the stake for being "predators/pedos/gross fujo scum". It really is tiresome.
No. 372897
>>372698>because the true end is heckin' wholesome?This is what gets me. If someone just was like, "yeah, it's fucked up and kind of gross, but I enjoy edgy stuff," then I could respect that person's opinion, but it's the insistence that it's this sweeping love story and actually Super Wholesome that bugs me.
>RanceI haven't played Rance (I might some day to see for myself what the hype is about; I like trying everything I can), but I've always seen the fixation with it as kind of weird. It looks painfully generic, and I don't know why people spend hundreds of hours on a ten-part series. Granted, whenever I do try it, I may eat my words, but it just looks so dull.
>Gore Screaming Show isn't deep whatsoever I do agree that it's not a horrible VN, but it was very much shilled as some kind of deep psychological horror story or something. I went in with that expectation, and came out sorely disappointed. I wasn't even impressed by the horror elements because any time something 18+ happened, it was more of the same stuff repeated ad infinitum. It lost whatever horrific impact it could've had because it was so repetitive (I did a bunch of bad endings after finishing the routes, and my eyes started glazing over at some point). I liked the art, and it wasn't aggressively bad, but I cannot believe how many people try to act like this is anything deeper than the VN equivalent to a horror b-movie.
>EXTRAVAGANZA never gets licensed, that game truly disgusted me past euphoria and FraterniteWould you mind elaborating on this? I know it's about bugs, but that's about it.
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>>372788Maybe those fans you met watch Youtubers like that sydsnap woman who only posts about hentai it seems, because I watched her (sponsored by JAST lmao) videos on the two translated Blackcyc games and I noticed the exact same opinions coming from a few female edgy VN fans I've talking to in the past. IIRC, it was especially her saying GSS writes the heroines like real people who have issues, but lots of male-oriented games have that kind of saviorfagging, like Grisaia.
I kinda feel a lot of younger VN fans love to try and out-edge each other by shit like saying "yeah I played Maggot Baits and didn't ctrl through the
regular snuff scenes, I'm so mature and kinky heheh".
>>372897Yeah I didn't understand the psychological horror angle for GSS, maybe it's just the "heroines need protags help to deal with their issues while a yandere loli and a creepy overpowered clown-thing make them worse" deal. It felt like a B horror movie to me too with how goofy and shamelessly crass it was at times, plus the slice of life stuff took up like half of a route with the only the occasional spook when shit hits the fan. The artist was the ideas guy for the game and I was actually pretty miffed when I saw his recent work on Dead Aegis. It's visually pleasing… but it's just all misery and constant ugly bastard garbage for the heroines. It had some vague excuse for a plot but that was just a backdrop for constant painful H-scenes.
It's been a long time since I played it, but EXTRAVAGANZA has also been shilled for having a "strong female protagonist", strong meaning "gets raped a lot and shrugs it off". It has this complicated flowchart system where one wrong choice nets you a long, long bad end and there are a LOT of bad ends which as you can guess involve a weird race of bugs/tentacle monsters. GSS bad ends are pretty tame compared to EXTRAVAGANZA's. I wouldn't even look up the CGs unless you want to puke up your last meal, and I can only wonder exactly how much more detailed and brutal they'd be without the mosaic censoring if it got an English release…
I'm glad Cyclet brand games probably won't come over to the west, however interestingly enough one of them has an actual deranged serial killing troon as the protagonist who kills the heroines out of envy lol. That one's called Dasaku if you're curious but is more or less just guro nukige shit.
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>>372522I actually wasn't a big fan of Umineko. It had nothing to do with Chiru or the usual complaints I see thrown around about it, but I agree with you that Higurashi is much better so far. Part of the reason I was hesitant to continue is because I was so meh on Umineko, but I'm having a lot of fun with Higurashi! I think the author's strong points are horror and characterization. Even Umineko had some great characters (Ange and Eva are two of my favorite female VN characters, and I love Erika even if she's not the best written). In Higurashi, I love how the characters actually act like kids because it makes the horror more poignant.
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>>373307I like Umineko but hard agree on Ange, Eva and Erika being best girls. A lot of the super iconic characters I was pretty 'meh' on though, like I know featherine, Lambda and Bern are incredibly popular because of power level autism but I never got into them because I never cared much.
I like the concept of Bern and Lambda being universe hopping lovers, but their actual personalities weren't all that impressive to me and they only really get discussed in terms of meta narrative.
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>>373110The number of fake edgy assholes that have tried to shill maggot baits to me is insane
>>373307Agreed, Higurashi >> Umineko. The mystery made more sense, the narration was less annoying and the logical flow of the events were just better. Umineko started pretty strong, I remember constantly being at the edge of my seat for the first 2 chapters and initially enjoyed battler beatrice showdowns, but the attempt to blend fantasy and mystery failed more and more over time. In the later chapters it was straight up random imaginary meme battles 80% of the time. Stuff like picrel is funny the first couple of times, but it gets tiring first. I think I was thoroughly bored by the time I was playing the answer arcs and wasn't even convinced by many of the explanations. Overall I felt lied to, because a lot of the stuff that prevented me from solving the mystery of the murders in the question arcs was often explained as "oh the weird creepy stuff that you readers saw were all red herrings and just fantasy, actually what happened was -insert boring realistic explanation that had little to no foreshadowing-". A story should not rely on readers having to dismiss half of what happens on the screen.
No. 373391
>>373110>Youtubers like that sydsnap womanI wish there were more female YTers that focused on VNs. I really tried to like her channel because I was desperate for content on VNs, but she seems to focus exclusively on the most shocking parts instead of anything substantive. It's a shame because she could have an interesting perspective, but instead, her videos feel so hollow as she pretends to freak out about the wacky content in whatever shock value VN she most recently read. I wouldn't even mind her focus on nukige if she offered more perspective on them than just, "Isn't this craaazy?? I'm sooo traumatized!!!"
>EXTRAVAGANZAThanks for the explanation, by the way!
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BTW, we also have an old Higurashi thread. Please help me revive it.
No. 374181
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Did anyone see the new denpa game that released in English today? I have no idea if it's any good, but I'm probably going to buy it because it's not too long and it's relatively cheap.
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I’m reading Episode 2 of Higurashi, and I just realized this entire ‘is Mion the same person as Shion’ subplot is literally just that episode of iCarly when Sam keeps telling Freddie that she has a twin sister named Melanie, and he insists they’re actually the same person. I cannot believe iCarly would plagiarize from classic visual novel, Higurashi no Naku Koro Ni, like this.
No. 374805
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Any other decent fairy tale VNs like Cinders?
No. 374945
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>>374805Don't know if this is what you want exactly, but Taisho x Alice is really great! It has a fairy tale theme, but it's not a direct retelling, even if the stories all borrow elements from different stories. Cinderella Phenomenon does something similar, and has the advantage of being free. If you don't mind branching out from otome games, you might like Forest. It's weird and kind of obtuse, but it has a ton of references to British literature, as well as fairy tales. I'd approach it with more caution, though, because it's very much aimed at a male audience. I liked it, but I could see why others wouldn't.
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has anyone read this? the art and setting are neat so i'm trying to power through it but lily going "i'm not a girl because i was wearing pants!" and elysia going "oh…i'm focused on science and adventure so i can't be a woman" piss me off so damn bad. elysia especially, if she's only in new york for some lame reason like tracking down her missing boyfriend i'm just going to drop it
No. 382563
>>382520honestly after making that post + risking spoilers by checking out the cgs on e-hentai, i think i'm going to drop it. i
thought it was an otome-style game but the sex and ecchi scenes are a little too male-pandering for my tastes.
male-pandering in the way i can't tolerate or enjoy. but to answer your question…i dunno! i'm still in the first chapter, and so far it's a lot of slow build-up and the protagonists being very cerebral and mysterious about the dystopic steampunk alice in wonderland-esque world they live in. i don't mind stories like this, where you barely know what's happening because the pov character barely knows what happening, but neither lisa or elysia have anything likable about them + a lot of their internal monologue thus far is just "a rock…i climbed over it. this tea is tasty and warm like the hand that helps you up. i don't know who i am…..~mysterious~"
take this with a grain of salt because like i said i am literally like, barely an hour into it, but yeah. not my thing i guess
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>>382507>>382563I liked Sonanyl back when I read it in japanese a long time ago. The art is really cute and distinct for a visual novel and it gives some fairy tale vibes, but no wonder you didn't like it if you were expecting something more like an otome, it's still an eroge aka aimed at men originally even if both the leads are female. I personally liked them especially Elysia, Lilly is kind of boring in comparison even if she looks adorable. The contrast and juxtaposition between their perspectives is an interesting way to frame the story, but if you're not drawn in, don't like stories that slowly reveal things over time and don't appreciate the writing style,yeah you might as well drop it.
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>>382656I see, that makes sense. I feel like her writing style is the type of thing you either vibe with or you don't, even if I've never read the translated version. Honestly I'm surprised to see someone even reading it at all though, not even my vn fan male friends have tried it and I didn't see anyone talking about it after the translation finally came out.
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>>383634I'm not really sure how he can suffer any harder than what happened to him
like, the only time he was ever not completely and utterly miserable was when he was getting high as fuck and then killing himself right after with his girlfriend No. 383653
>>383646Yeah, the seiyuu did a great job, I just like hearing male screams of horror kek
I did actually enjoy what I've seen of his route but once I get into it more I suddenly get taken back from it when he says something like
"It's important that you let him fuck you" and I can't take it seriously anymore.
No. 383970
>>383630i'm not going to read your entire post (you need to learn what a linebreak is) but
>the CGs disgust me way too much and they feel so over the top and ridiculous that it doesn't even register as psychological horror to meit's a denpa game, it's supposed to be over the top and ridiculous
No. 383996
>>383956Yeah, I get that, I'm just shocked at how many people sympathize with him. I actually like that he's insane, but would never sympathize with a character who's involved with so much rape. I'm mostly just dumbfounded at how it's championed as this life changing incredibly deep story.
I know it references actual philosophical texts but it doesn't appear to be as groundbreaking to me as it people make it seem.
And I'm also surprised with how many young zoomer girls like it, although it does have an "aesthetic" that's popular rn
>>383970>(you need to learn what a linebreak is)Sorry,
nonnie, I was too focused on my rant.
>it's a denpa game, it's supposed to be over the top and ridiculousYeah, I only recently discovered denpas but it still completely eliminates the horror aspect for me… I guess it's not as ridiculous and degen as Sayooshi.
I thikl I'd enjoy the ridiculousness if it wasn't shock value porn, I liked Takuji's deranged screams.
I have a low tolerance for moid fanservice which leaves me with BL only I guess.
No. 384018
>>383996Yes, sympathizing with him is kind of odd to me, though I suppose I can see people feeling that way because of how he's bullied or whatever, and a lot of women tend to make excuses for their flawed male faves rather than just accept they like a fucked up character. I see that whole part as more like watching a moving car crash, it's fucked up but you still feel morbidly curious to see how crazy things get as an observer, and it's an interesting character study or look into an crazy man's mind. You can find him tragic and wish things were different especially by the end of IMOI but I don't believe you're really meant to condone his actions since he's 100% framed as insane.
As for it being a deep story or life changing or whatever, I do think people blow that out of proportion to the point where it just becomes a meme, it does have as you mentioned some philosophical aspects to it and a an overarching message about life and death it's trying to convey, which can be helpful and impactful for some people as it does focus a lot on mental illness, suicide, lacking purpose, etc. It's easier to see this by the time you've finished it, though. I suppose with that in mind it makes sense a lot of zoomers would latch onto it since mental illnesses seem really rampant nowadays, and yep, it does fit the trendy 2000s and denpa aesthetics they're currently into.
>I guess it's not as ridiculous and degen as Sayooshi. Sayooshi is definitely much worse and also more poorly written overall.
>I have a low tolerance for moid fanservice which leaves me with BL only I guess.Reading eroge definitely requires a bigger tolerance to that stuff but you could also read all ages vns with no sex scenes, or stuff that doesn't have content as extreme as those two.
No. 387297
>>387128No but I went to check it out on vndb and
>In Class of '09 you play the anime girl and verbally destroy any guy in your path.kek
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>>382563I read Gahkthun (same author) and had similar feelings about it. I did complete it, but I did not find it worth my time at all. Disappointing to hear Sona-Nyl is similar, as the art is gorgeous. I felt like Gahkthun didn't make good use of its historical/literary references (the characters were tangentially related to the source material at best). Like Sona-Nyl, the protagonist's internal monologue was fairly dull, and I never did feel attached to the characters. Did you read the Refrain or original version, and do you think reading the other would have improved your experience at all? I might still try to read Sona-Nyl eventually, but it's definitely moving down on my list.
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>>388618i was reading the original version and i have no intention to ever return to sona-nyl. i ended up reading picrel (class of '09) and though certain sections felt like pulling teeth i stuck through it because it's short and i paid for it. also it had some moments that made me snicker
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With the Steam sale, has anyone bought any interesting VNs? Is there anything worth getting for dirt cheap? I'd been kind of interested in picrel, but the translation looks absolutely awful, so I don't think I can justify it, even with the hefty discount.
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Mangagamer has announced a new Ryukishi07 game
>https://mangagamer.org/rgdand the synopsis looks intriguing. Has anybody read it?
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>>397974It’s not new. It was easy read, I liked the intrigues and monologues of culture clash. But the more I think about it, why I never see anyone to say words like “Prostitution”, why is teenage girl is expected to serve client (in season 3 or 4), whole premise of almighty cowboy hero saving the day strongest of all (literally he went of the stage and it became a bloodbath), he also has an one night stand with night club madam who is a 18 yo virgin in love with him, then said madam organises mafia and fights with Chinese for soy sauce. Yeah, I expected some cheesiness. Now the only thing I remember is the fujobait in season 3 with local Battler with villain. I should’ve read the otome or fantasy books instead.
No. 398517
>>398426Nono, it’s cheesy male wish fullfillment comedy adventure about mafia affairs, with occasional abuse on women, it gets more heavy in season 3 with
major character deaths. No creepiness or weirdness, it’s the most grounded story of 07Ryukishi’s works.
No. 400904
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Why are women into vns, specifically eroge, always such cows? Ofc the moids are too, but there’s less women so it stands out more. This isn’t even the 1st pickme vn fan I’ve seen who talks about how they wanna get raped by ugly bastards either. Picrel spoilered for NSFL
No. 400920
>>400911Yes, that's her. She's creepy and obnoxious. Too bad it's very rare to find other women who like eroge without them being some freak with internalized misogyny.
>>400914Couldn't find it but her twitter was full of basic shit like Rance, why am I not surprised with these types.
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>>387128Hated it, heard about it from this video from this dumbass and decided to play it because of that.
I was hoping it MIGHT have some funny stuff in it but the only kind of humourous part was all the kids becoming white nationalists in that one ending while the rest was just 'haha get it they said the fuck word'
Only people I can see enjoying it are BPD girls who wish they could be highschool bullies and guys who wish they could fuck a highschool bully. Also all the girls looking the same, having the same personality and sounding the exact same was eyeroll worthy.
The stoner(?) guy was cute though, if it was an otome where you played as a less mega bitch girl I would have enjoyed it more.
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>>401356god i hate those 'not like other visual novels' vns and people who act like they are better than japanese vns because the former are just sooo different (and irony poisoned just like the person who made this video)
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>>401356It's especially tiresome because Japan ALREADY DID the "anti visual novel" shtick a decade ago (picrel.) Not that Westerners aren't allowed to do the same, but they're so smug about it and don't understand what they're supposedly ~deconstructing~ kek
No. 401509
>>401469It's just pretty typical millennial stuff to have to be ironic about everything 24/7 and never allow yourself or your writing to be genuine.
>>401472Also this. I've heard people who were BORN in the year 2009 like it which would track.
>>401473Totono's just DDLC but written by people who know what they're talking about and actually understand the tropes. I'll give DDLC points for the guy making it not actually disliking VNs (apparently he was inspired to make it after playing tsukihime) so unlike class of 09 it didn't come from a place of hatred, it just was a concept that had already been done and done much better.
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>>401356This video is insufferable, with the forced memes and the way he talks. I don't understand why there are basically no good channels covering VNs out there.
>>401469I feel the same way. Most of them seem like they were made by someone with no experience with the medium. It's weird how many people who don't like VNs seem to think they should be in the business of making them. The Hatoful Boyfriend rip-offs like picrel are the worst because Hatoful Boyfriend was legitimately funny and had a lot of effort put into it, and people who try to mimic it completely misunderstand why it was so charming.
No. 404340
>>404338>basically no good channels covering VNs out there.Bess Sonozaki was okay but she
>only covered higurashi>hasn’t uploaded a video about higurashi in over a year Only other decent channel is warudo chaos but he also hasn’t uploaded in a year
No. 404341
>>404338Hatoful boyfriend worked because it had a plot and interesting characters and didn’t just exist as a premise and nothing else, what also helped is that it came out way before meme VNs flooded the market.
I don’t think there’s a meme VN that’s even passable
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>>405404>Including ultimate talentsC'mon bro that's that's just plagiarism tier, you even gave the protagonist an ahoge…
At least tantei bokumetsu which also didn't even try to hide it had the kind of interesting idea of everyone being a detective (I still never got around to playing it though)
No. 413870
>>413824>The game has only ever been released as a part of the limited SubaHibi 10th Anniversary Edition, and as such, it is not legally available for purchase at the time of this patch's release. Despite this, we still must ask that you only apply this patch to a legally obtained Japanese copy of the game.lol
is ryuugames a good site to download the jp version? it's not on nyaa>>406012are plotge and charage actual terms? i've never seen anyone use them
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Just finished Phoenix Wright: Trials and Tribulations this morning and now I have a favorite character. Too bad all the tumblr blogs are dead
No. 413946
>>413927I love him
Such a great game, I cried in the end. Hope you like the Apollo trilogy
No. 413955
>>401848Literally wtf are you talking about lmao uminekofags are always fucking clowns no matter the Kool aid they drink for real.
Agreed on the sprites tho fuck alchemist how the hell do you make a bunch of sprites that are already ugly enough not only uglier but also your make them absolutely SOULESS and coomer lolibait.
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>>413870I downloaded it from
https://sukebei.nyaa.si/view/3228076 (pretty sure most R18 games get posted here)
It was a bit annoying to download so I'll describe how to do it to the best of my ability
>Download the torrent (took about an hour for me) >I used daemon tools for a lot of this, open the files and then click on the second one (tsui no sora remake disc) >pretty sure you have to click on advanced mount but it took me some trial and error>once that happens it should redirect you to a folder and you can select the daemon tools option which should ask 'what happens with the disc'>download it and then create a desktop shortcut and go to the game's folder>download the patch and extract the files, then move them out of the folder into the game's directory A bit of a pain but hopefully it can be easier for you if you decide to download it!
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gaaaaay
No. 417871
I have a problem with Umineko: I really want to like it, the whole thing. I read it with friends but I had to rely on them often due to Ryukishi's horrible habit to describe useless details. I like vn that put some trivia here and there to flesh out the character and the world but in those 4h sessions we had every night to read it, I feel like the only useful things could be synthetized in 20-30 minutes. It's not my attention span but I hate when I get a piece of information in media that gets a shit load of time to explain and it wont be useful ever again, not going anywhere. Wrap it up with the mackerel sauce already holy fuck.
I need to reread it but when I think about how slow it is and how fast is it once it reaches the climax, throwing a lot of stuff in your face and shit, I get immediately discouraged. I know I have to enjoy it as it is and I know your usual, simple vn but if I had to read a psychology book I'd like to read the DSM 5 and some jung here and there. I take Umineko as a good mystery story but good, the constant teasing to the mystery, to me, is too much. There should be a cut-the-bullshit version, just because Ryukishi is a very good story teller doesn't mean that his writing and time managing is good, these things are not the same
No. 418065
>>413957how is it nona? i really loved subahibi but i’m
not sure if this one is more a galge
No. 418077
>>418052the story is good, the characters are good, the whole meta is good. I like it overall, I think it's a very good piece of media but when I think about it, my mind goes automatically to every hour I spent reading and suffering because I knew I was reading something that wasn't important. All I am saying is that those details not only make everything slower but also shift the focus, if a piece of media can survive without a paragraph, then that paragraph is useless. Kill your darlings, always, just like eroges don't need a shitton of information when the main goal is just seeing the two mcs fuck, this is a problem in many japanese forms of media, they use so much words and paragraphs for unimportant shit it becomes pretentious in some cases and light novels are the biggest offenders but when it gets to vns it becomes annoying, slice of life moments exist for making us care about the characters, fleshing them out, giving us their point of view, not wasting time and people let Ryukishi get away with it, when in Higurashi there was that long ass segment about baseball I wanted to off myself, it's not a good move, it just makes you go "fucking finally" when you reach the climax.
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>>418077I agree with you, I feel like there's a general issue with media padding their content/story for the sect of consumers that automatically like something more because it's longer
I don't know if it's sunk cost, Stockholm, or just current expectations
But this is coming from someone that liked the excessive cooking scenes in F/SN so idk
No. 421043
>>420825Relateable, except I'm still dumb and end up talking to male weebs because I feel lonely that I have no one else to talk about those interests (I always regret it and hate myself afterwards). It's to the point where I'm considering getting into otome and BL even though I'm way less interested in them just so it'd be easier to find companionship with other women in the vn community who aren't the pick me types.
This recent-ish surge of e-girls into vns pandering to scrotes online annoys me too because it makes it even harder to find women who are genuinely into the medium without it all just being an excuse to shill their OF or lewd cosplays of the characters, or for co-opting 2000s and/or "denpa" aesthetics while they're still trendy. All I want is to find weird reclusive women like me into these games that don't spend their entire life pandering to men and don't stop at reading totono, saya, or sayooshi while ignoring anything that doesn't fit into their desired aesthetic, but they seem really rare.
No. 421060
>>420448>>420825If you find any place let me know I can't stand breathing the same air as 4chan anons just to talk about bishojo games
>>421043It's such an odd trend too, maybe it would have been even more popular 10 years ago when VNs were all the rage but I just can't imagine why an e-girl would want to pretend to be into ancient VNs. There's no money to be had because the moids into VNs would rather engage with 2D content. The men who are actually buying their OFs would buy anyones content. The pandemic really brought about weird subcultures
No. 421072
>>421060>I can't stand breathing the same air as 4chan anons just to talk about bishojo gamesI tried 4chan before too but even for me it's too much, discord and twitter weeb guys are already hard to stomach as it is.
>It's such an odd trend too, maybe it would have been even more popular 10 years ago when VNs were all the rage but I just can't imagine why an e-girl would want to pretend to be into ancient VNs. I feel like it's just an extension of the whole 2000-2010s nostalgia boom we're seeing right now with anime aesthetics, a lot of famous vns have that look to them so it makes people latch onto them unfortunately. It also feels similar to how e-girls and posers latch onto anime characters like Lain because it's like an edgy/weird/outcast girl they can project themselves onto, except now it's with vn characters that fit that bill, so zoomer e-girls are all over it since it's their "literally me" character or whatever.
As for the men I think while most vn fans care more about 2D there's still the ones that fall for this since they like the idea of a mentally ill gf into their same hobbies (especially if they're a pick me who panders to them all the time) so it still ends up appealing to them. It's just sad honestly, I wish people took an interest in vns in a normal way instead of just using them for a passing trend/aesthetic that will die down as soon as people get tired of the 2000s nostalgia they're currently infatuated with. Another thing I hate is also how they just run things into the ground with retarded unfunny memes and how half of them haven't even read the things they're fans of, to the point where if you like Subahibi now you're going to be associated with a bunch of cringy tiktok kids who probably haven't even actually read it but like using profile pictures of the characters because they look cool
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i fucking love scarlet hollow. does anyone else here love scarlet hollow?
No. 422859
>>422844What didn't you like about it? Saya was one of my first too, and I've read quite a bit since, but I replayed it recently. The atmosphere is one of the best out of any media I've ever experienced. I especially loved exploring Ogai's lab-dungeon-thing, it was benign in what it showed you, but scared me nonetheless kek. Saya is still unmatched in that regard, and I wish I could find something similar to it in terms of atmosphere
Saya e-girls have left a bad taste in my mouth, though. It's a shame such people can take such a good work and make me fear associating with it
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>>422825Never heard of it, sell me on it
nonny.
>>422844It was one of my first too, I think it's just okay. The atmosphere is good like
>>422859 said, it'd be better without the H scenes or it being romantic though. I also don't like the saya e-girls, I even saw one trying to eat raw meat a while back and then when people told her that's not a good idea she basically just doubled down on it
No. 423797
>>423783I fucking despise how Osaka has been co-opted by trannies and wannabe shitposters. I watched
Azumanga during the early 2000s so seeing what the internet has dones to her makes me reeeee.
No. 423807
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>>423798She appeals to autistic males, they latch to her since her blazed personality is seen as "cute" when an anime girl does it but weird when a grown man does.
Same way programmer TIMs say they're literally Lain or when men with horrible anxiety latch to Bocchi like picrel.
That, and
Azumanga was one of
the first CGDCT anime/manga,
Azumanga walked so that every shitty moeblob waifu show could run. It's pretty much a classic in the genre (in a way).
No. 423812
>>423798>AD seems so "safe" in comparison kekThere's a pedo teacher charcacter who likes one of his students who's implied to be a lesbian, and his antics ("I like high school girls!") are played for comedy. It's not as otaku pandering like say,
Lucky Star, but the
jokes are still there.
No. 423834
>>423793Me neither, I assume it's just because she has a cute design, is "quirky" and yeah the meta side of the vn.
>>423809>>423817Same here. It's annoying seeing normie who are conventionally attractive and have tons of friends and simps pretend they relate to socially isolated and mentally ill characters. They most definitely will move on to something else once new aesthetics catch on
No. 425471
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Does anyone have any recommendations for pre-2010 visual novels, specifically 90s? I appreciate that there are still amazing games coming out (perhaps the only genre of games with consistently good releases nowadays kek), but I'm a sucker for anything retro.
No. 425488
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>>425471the first sakura taisen has an english patch up. it’s partially a trpg but way easier than something like fire emblem.
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>>425488>>425471Seconded Sakura Wars because it has my wife
No. 426045
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>>426038You are using Mednafen, yeah?
If I remember well I had to create a file on disc 2 and then copy and paste its name on my disc 1 file or something akin to that.
Honestly I groan thinking about how they will emulate the interaction between the Sakura Wars 1 and 2 files. I'd like the game to remember I dated Kanna instead of Sakura or something.
To the other nona:
In case your problem is figuring out how Mednafen works due to its lack of UI, I highly suggest you check this guide out!
https://fantasyanime.com/emuhelp/mednafen No. 427661
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who up slaying they princess??
No. 427682
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>>427664it never claimed to be a serious game? what's wrong with having some funny bits here and there to lighten up the mood. plus she's some kind of cat-like creature here, it's appropriate for her to make that face
>>427670have fun nona
No. 427706
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>>427694>JOLVN/EOLVNi'm sorry i have no idea what that means.
>Is it a comedy?no but as i said there are funny bits here and there. it's a horror vn (very mild, just some blood and insides)
>I know nothing about it other than the princess being secretly evil or somethingPERFECT. just go in blind. i played both demos when they came out so the novelty has worn off for me but i still enjoyed the game a lot. the way they decided to tie all the routes together is a bit cringe imo… it's hard to describe without spoiling too much but it feels like the game starts taking itself too seriously in these moments. you'll know what i'm talking about when you see it
i'd also recommend their other game
i promise i'm not a dev shilling but it's unfinished. this
>>423783 nona asked me about it so i'll sell it to you both now:
it's a horror visual novel with RPG and dating sim elements set in a
shithole small crumbling town somewhere in america. you come from a (once) extremely wealthy Scarlet family that ran the coal mines and practically ruled the town with their money. you're travelling to Scarlet Hollow to attend the funeral of your estranged aunt Pearlanne Scarlet. it'll be held in 7 days after you arrive and in the meantime everything that could go wrong goes wrong with you in the middle of it all
at the start of the game you get to choose 2 traits (see next post) that impact the gameplay and reveal different parts of the story. there's also a hidden stat mechanic affected by your choices. the characters feel very alive and real because they judge you based on these hidden stats (are you agreeable/rebellious, active/passive, reliable/a liar etc). these mechanics make it worth to play through the episodes several times even with only 4 out of 7 of them available. music and art is great too
cons: nonbinary moid character who is easy to ignore (i forgot he even existed in my first playthrough); it's unfinished and the episodes take a long time to make
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>>427706the traits. talk to animals is my favourite
No. 427711
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>>427706the possibilities in this game are endless. for example you can do dumb shit like eat mold and nobody is going to stop you
but there will be consequences.. No. 427722
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>>427682I really love the game for balancing horror and humor so well. The voice actor's performance for the narrator and voices in mc's head is some of the best voice acting I've heard in an English game. ♥
No. 433267
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The dev of Guilty Parade is claiming that fujos harassed him and canceled his game. Does anyone know any details on this? I was going to play it but I'm not so sure if I want to spend money on this game if he's just stirring shit up to get attention The whole situation seems fishy and a way to promote his new game. I can't find any bad reviews or "hate videos" like he's claiming he was bombarded with and I found a couple of steam reviews saying he was deleting comments and blocking people for shipping a m/m ship?
No. 433269
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>>433267I can't find any of the hate or criticism he's referring to at all. This seems so forced and I don't want to spend money on his work if he's making stuff up kek.
No. 433272
>>433269This sounds so fucking fake kek, it's literally on par with the guy who made Yiik trying to get anti SJW retards to play his game by pretending SJWs were attacking him.
The VN has only 22 votes on vndb yet he's claiming it was big enough that people were drawing fanart for it? Yeah sure buddy.
No. 433278
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>>433277I found a few reviews in russian on google play that rated it 1 star because I'm guessing he killed off a character because of a ship, but even then it was only a few reviews and I don't think this counts as cyberbullying kek.
The other negative reviews were just talking about how the game doesn't work properly.
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>>433278That or he counts people giving their honest opinion as 'cyberbullying'
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>>433269This sounds made-up. Even looking at the game's English Google Play reviews, while there are a lot of 1-star reviews (it's a 3.5 right now), the negative reviews are almost exclusively dedicated to the game crashing. I'm not even sure it was ever a 4.9 because these negative reviews have been around for a while. This kind of makes me sad because I wanted to buy Guilty Parade, but not if the author's this much of an attention-seeker.
>>433277I've been trying to find any of the fujo hate this guy received. Most of the fujo fan art I've seen looks like genuine ship art. Unless this guy sees someone making an animatic of his protagonist set to the Gay or European song as cyberbullying, I really don't know what he's talking about.
>>433278There were also a couple of negative reviews in Russian on Steam, but they didn't seem especially aggressive, and none of them involved doxxing or stalking. It was just people saying they didn't like the direction the story took? I think this guy's just sensitive.
No. 433288
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>>433277According to this steam review, it seems like he got so upset that some people were shipping the MC with another male character he made said character be an asshole to MC just to spite those people. Then he started implying romantic chemistry between a female character and the male MC despite claiming the VN had no romance. This reminds me of the Class of 09 dev chimping out over having an unexpected fanbase of female zoomers and then "punishing" them. Not sure what is meant in this review by the dev banning people for liking the m/m ship. I have no fucking clue why you would derail your entire story and then claim harassment just because you attracted a small handful of fujos kek males are so sensitive. I will not be giving him any of my money.
No. 433298
>>433288Ngl it's not even a fujo/fangirl thing, if a developer is so petty that he's incapable of
having a fanbase that isn't what he's expecting then it's a red flag that he's going to make more retarded decisions down the line.
No. 434145
>>434117I don't remember the mc really coming off as misogynistic, I only watched the anime though. I guess you could still read it but just skip that route or any of the side routes if you don't like them, since the praise is mostly for Nagisa + After story. People praise Jun Maeda but he still gets shit for stuff he did, like Charlotte which turned into a trainwreck at the end. Key games in general tend to have weak side route heroines, I still need to read Clannad besides watching the anime but this was an issue with Little Busters too for example, the true route is far better than anything else before it in terms of writing.
>>434135The mc actually gets development in After story and becomes less bland. It's definitely tropey just in general though and the girls aren't really that good though, yeah.
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>>434117Clannad and Key stuff is so fucking moidy and I say this as someone who plays moid VNs.
I think for me it’s just double annoying since a lot of moids who play/watch shit like Clannad get obsessed with this somehow showing how ‘pure’ they are and how women are degenerates if they don’t love their autistic lolis dying of plot convenience and then coming back to life.
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>>434169This is so accurate. I'll admit that I like a few of Key's VNs, but men will read one of their VNs and act like they've just experienced the feeling of empathy for the first time in their lives.
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>>435113I'm sorry in advance because I read mostly horror and mystery, but hopefully some other anons can chime in with some other suggestions. If you're okay with yuri, you may enjoy SeaBed! It does have a mystery plot, but the focus is mostly on the character dynamics and interactions. As was discussed above, a lot of Key's works would probably fulfill what you want (Clannad and Kanon are good starting points. I'd not read Little Busters, not because it isn't good, but because I don't think the romance was as prominent). If OELVNs are acceptable, Rituals in the Dark was pretty cute, and there's no weird shit that you see in a lot of OELVNs! The dev has some other yuri games that would also fulfill your criteria and are pretty good (be sure to check the genres for a lot of them, though, because she also writes horror, which is significantly less kind to the characters lol).
No. 435125
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>>432673Im another Scarlet Hollow fan anon, the episodes work essentially like a tv show, or the first life is strange game, each episode is a day in the week leading up to the funeral of mc's aunt and your progress directly carries over with many choices being acknowledged and brought up, its a very reactive game and even small stuff like not taking a shower will be noted.
The series will probably get finished, it genuinely seems like Abby, one of the two devs, is more attached to scarlet hollow than slay the princess and has been eager to get back to it after finishing up the final cut of StP. She posts frequent updates on scarlet hollow in her social media and non-canon art of the characters.
An updated version of episodes 1-4 was announced for Q12025 with more choices and variants and Episode 5 will be coming out in Q22025. With 6 and 7 being released in 2026. The episodes themselves are very long with like 2-3 hours per episode right now and probably more after the update.
The gendie shit is a little annoying but not too in your face, the nonbinary character seems to be the only trans one and so far none of the interactions have been about it, people just use they/them and its never acknowledged.
I would recommend any anon who likes VNs checking out, the first episode is free on steam so no need to cash out just to try it.
No. 435162
>>435095The Key VNs I've tried out has had nice male protagonists, if a little boring. I've played a lot of otome but most were in JP. Out of the localized stuff, I liked Amnesia and Code Realize, but Amnesia mc gets a lot of hate for being blank slate-y (I liked her, girl had amnesia after all. She becomes more vibrant in thr fandiscs with her memory back) and code realize is more plot focused than romance.
Sorry for useless response
nonnie No. 435314
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Is Katawa Shoujo any good? It's free on Steam but I can't tell if it's worth playing.
No. 435465
>>435314Each route has a different writer so the quality varies, but the general gist for each one is that the protag is kind of an ableist dickhead that slowly comes to understand each girl. I didn't like the NSFW scenes, imo they all felt uncomfortable and downright awkward but they can be disabled (no pun intended).
If you don't like the kind of protagonist Hisao is you probably will not enjoy reading it. I love the girls but I hate him even more with each re-read kek
No. 435533
>>435314Played the game years ago when it came out. From what I remember, Lilly's route was the best written followed by Hanako's. Shizune's was shit. I appreciated they didn't do obvious foot fetish stuff with Rin. Only thing I remember about Emi is
anal sex.It's clearly written for a male player though so your enjoyment will vary. It's free so I'd just play it and drop it if it's not for you.
Since it was mentioned recently, I played Slay the Princess and was kind of surprised how many women enjoyed it because it's a very very obvious waifu game (with furry and other fetishistic elements). You're supposed to find the Princess attractive (which I didn't) so my enjoyment was limited.
No. 435764
>>435650Beskonechnoe Leto. Haven't read it myself but if it's being called the Russian Katawa Shoujo, was made by Russian IB moids and contains lolifaggotry, it's bound to be mediocre at most.
>>435314I tried Shizune's route first because I'm a meganefag, but I couldn't finish it. Maybe I should give it another try?
No. 435892
>>434169I hate those types of memes, they're always so unfunny and retarded. Those same types of men will go on to post rape porn of lolis and then pretend they're pure, it falls in line with all their other retarded memes about how they're actually big softies inside or whatever and women are evil cold bitches who think they don't have feelings, even though it's their own fault for muh masculinity meme they imposed on themselves and being disgusting degenerates 99% of the time to begin with that they're seen that way. That actual scene in Clannad was genuinely really good though, seeing Tomoya bond with her was sweet.
>>435655>>435650Agreed with Fate. Also, G-Senjou no maou.
No. 436026
>>435764>Beskonechnoe Leto.I can confirm it is very overrated. There are some interesting parts and ideas, so it's not the worst thing. The part in the Miku route when
everyone disappeared and it started going into apocalyptic territory was really cool until the route shit the bed. The atmosphere and setting were also really cool. The OST is probably its strongest element, as the music is extremely good, especially for a free game. I'd probably listen to it on its own, honestly. However, the story itself has a lot of bizarre writing decisions. The part where the purple girl
fucking killed herself was so melodramatic that I couldn't take it seriously. I've seen some people online say it made them cry or get emotional, but I distinctly remember the MC saying something like,
"It's across the road, not down the street," when he found her corpse lol. I don't know if this was an issue with the English translation or if that line wasn't supposed to be taken seriously, but I laughed out loud. I can't imagine it was an intentional joke, as the general reaction I've seen to that part is that it's heartbreaking, especially since it happens to the "best girl." Then, when the game got to the
catgirl route, it became very obvious the writer did not know what he was doing, as he basically destroyed the interesting atmosphere he'd built. It doesn't help that, if I recall, the dev admitted to getting sick of writing it, which is why the ending is so bad. It's not the worst VN or anything, and there were some really neat parts that separate it from other VNs, but it should've been made by more competent people.
There is, however, one thing I find both really weird and nasty about the fanbase. There's a strong modding community for the game. There's one mod I've seen praised online a lot, and it adds a new anime girl who's a real, actual girl who went to a Pioneer Camp and died at 13. Her name was Samantha Smith, and this is especially worrisome considering the protagonist is a 20-30 year old man trapped in a teenager's body. I hope there's no adult content or romance in the mod (haven't played it because I consider this all to be immensely disrespectful, especially considering her mom is still alive). I know this has nothing to do with the original game and can't be blamed on the devs, but I don't know how many people are aware of it, and the few discussions I've seen about the mod are mostly positive. Maybe it handles her in a really respectful way or something, but I don't think turning a dead child into an anime girl can ever be a great idea, even assuming their intentions were good.
No. 437081
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Any nonnas read Heaven Burns Red? How do you feel about it?
It's moidy (picrel kek) and the resident loli is annoying, but I really like it so far. I found it's humour pretty funny which I'm thankful for, Maeda has a habit of repeating his jokes over and over and I ship Ruka and Yuki. I don't know much about yuri, but I'd happily read yuri vns if they had relationships like theirs in them.
I wish it was a traditional visual novel overall, though, I hope they port it to Steam in English soon.
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>>437081I looked it up on VNDB and this design, oh man. I really hate the art ngl
No. 437382
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Anons who have played Yu-No, is the remake or the original better? I like the art of the original more, but I've heard it has really clunky mechanics and it's inconvenient to play in the modern era. A lot of people online seem to think you miss out on plot points with the remake's omission of the H-scenes, but I'm understandably skeptical of this. I hate the new art style compared to the old, but it may be worth the sacrifice depending on how much the original sucks from a QoL perspective.
No. 437394
>>437382I've not played the remake, but the original is really good. The jank is worth putting up with, for the visuals and audio if nothing else. If you care about it's historical value and importance, you should go for it.
I didn't know they changed anything about the story, though? Another nonna will have to fill in there.
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I think nonnies here would like this game, Rinjin -Neighbor-. It's a horror vn, creepy too, and only a couple hours long. The love interest (picrel) is a cutie, even with the couple of hours with him I grew to love him. I hope there's an otome with a carbon copy of him kek
No. 451388
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Have any of you learnt/are learning Japanese to read visual novels? I keep trying, but lose motivation so easily kek
No. 451390
>>451388I'm learning for the sake of reading books, but I'll be starting on visual novels soon as they seem like a great stepping stone to my actual goal with a lot of resources to ease the process.
What visual novels are you planning to read,
nonny? I'm always open for recs.
It's been a bit hard trying to find things that aren't too moidy, especially since I'm not conversely that interested in otome games, either.
No. 451435
>>451388Taught myself years ago so I could read otome games, then realized most of them are sorta boring.
Still worth it though.
No. 451853
>>451390I wish you luck! I quite like bishoujoge myself, so I want to read Elf, NitroPlus and GIGA and Age's catalogue. I'd also like to read random fanfiction, as that scarcely gets translated. A bit of a general recommendation, but ADV detective games aren't scrotey at all (unless they double as eroge ofc), and most of them aren't translated, or have poor TLs, sadly
>>451435I'm jealous lol, did you just do anki and read when you'd learnt some thousand words? That's what I see most people say to do. What's your favourite untranslated otomege?
No. 451875
>>451853Tai Kim, JPLT Anki deck. Didn't study kanji individually, started with easy DS kids games and mined words.
I can't really speak it or write at all though cause I didn't focus on that.
Favorite, I don't know. Most of what I played ended up being forgettable. Maybe Armen Noir or Enkeltbillet.
Kinanaki no Mori wasn't really otome but was pretty good even though I don't usually like utsuge.
>>451402Their whole gimmick is old men, with their other games and situation CD's.
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>>451887I'm not sure what you're into/looking for specifically, but Witch on The Holy Night is the most beautiful visual novel I've ever read. I wish you could post multiple images on LC, because every CG in this game is stunning
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>>451887Adabana Itan, Shiei no Sona-nyl, Ghostpia, The House in Fata Morgana - these were the first to come to mind. All of these should be available in English on PC.
No. 453512
>>451992Thank you for the rec! I’m going to start reading this.
>>452011Thank you, I’ll add those to my list. I’ve played The House in Fata Morgana and really loved it, I still listen to the ost to this day kek
No. 453942
>>451388Yes. It made it way easier for me to learn the language but it's hard at first. You just have to read something you like that isn't super complicated at the same time so you don't lose motivation.
>>453402I think it gets way too much hate from that crowd but at the same time I think it's annoying how people who don't play vns will constantly act like it's the best and all other vns suck. The type of people that play a couple of popular vns in the west and then shit on the rest of the medium.
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Incoming mini-review of Nie no Hakoniwa since I managed to stomach through the entire game. Linear plot, protag is an emotionless assassian in an arranged marriage with Kyouko, the eldest daughter of the Shiki family. As much as I dislike her, I pity her since she has no positive role models and believes her sole purpose in life is to bear children; she is considered "garbage" if she cannot (later on, she becomes infertile because of the Box). This is a recurring topic in the story, which practically numbs you.
Kyouko teaches protrag what genuine love is, they get married, and all hell breaks loose when they open their wedding gift - injuring them severely.
You learn more about the families' feuds in between - most of them despise each other from what I can understand. It's okay but definitely not compelling. Protag decides to fulfill his wife's wish by murdering everyone in the seven families, raping and placing the women's wombs in the Box. What the fuck.
Expect cannibalism, domestic violence, gore and misery porn. I cannot stand Nozomi, who reminds me of Kyouko (which is funny because she was born from the Box, fused with the qualities of Kyouko and her elder sister. She's also the girl the reporter speaks to in the beginning).
Her voice is so grating, I had to mute her in the game's settings. In the end, no one survives, thank god the protag is six feet under.
It's a pity that the flashbacks to the Sengoku era were one of the two things that pulled me into the game. Couldn't care for every character since the cast is huge except for a select few; I love the Saegusas, wish they lived in the end. Overall a 3/10. If anyone is looking for a cleanser after playing something like this, try Flyable Heart.
Also, I'm curious as to what your favorite singers are! My list is austically long but a few I want to mention are:
>Rita
>Haruka Shimotsuki
>Miyuki Hashimoto
>Mami Nakayama
>Mokuren
>Marina Oono
>Duca
>Yui Sakakibara
No. 454032
>>454030VNs are such a double edged sword because some of them are so good and then you have shit like this. A
lot of shit like this.
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Literally the only link I could find for Dark Blue was so ancient that it could only work with old versions of windows. Any searches on the typical free VN websites I go to only have the other games in the franchise but not Dark Blue specifically. I'm okay with JP only sites if anyone knows a safe download source.
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>>454838Ryuugames or H-suki. Took me around 5 mins to download and run the game.
>>454924HOLY SHIT I completely forgot to mention KOTOKO!! God, I love her and her older songs, I just can't pick a favorite. Yes she did! I have to sit down and listen to Sakura no Uta's OST someday. At first, I thought you were referring to WHITE-LIPS because she also has a song named Dear My Friend.
No. 454970
>>454030That sounds really bad, sorry that you had to endure all that. Unfortunately, like other anons noted, VNs are always a coin toss of good/bad ones.
>Also, I'm curious as to what your favorite singers are!In no particular order, aside from the first 3, mine is:
Lia
Rita
AKI
Kotoko
Haruka Shimotsuki
Ayana
Mami Kawada
MELL
KIYO
Yumi Matsuzawa
Rekka Katakiri
Eiko Shimamiya
YURIA
Yui Sakakibara
Kaori Utatsuki
I think that's all unless I forgot someone, I'm also an I've Sound fan. Vid attached is a song I find really cute and just wanted to share.
No. 455896
>>401356Class of '09 definitely feels like a VN for people who hate VNs. I do like that you can't just pick the obvious "right" choices to get a good ending, but I wish it didn't use such "not-like-other-VN" advertising.
Never felt that way about DDLC, though. The dev credited JP games as inspiration and seems to respect the medium, and as far as I know, has never claimed to be doing some ground-breaking thing nobody else has ever done. Only the VN-hating fans who think all VNs are just romance seem to think that. I always thought the romance and slice-of-life build up scenes were pretty endearing on their own and did a good job at actually making you care about the characters.
No. 457441
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More fuckery from the two companies you should be fedposting about every day:
https://desuarchive.org/a/thread/275870577/(spamming in multiple threads) No. 461961
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How much/what kind of erotic content does it have? The tags only mention 'Sexual Content' and 'Erotic Beating (Non-Consensual)'. The story seems interesting. I might buy it if there is nothing gross/explicit.
https://vndb.org/v33272 No. 462095
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>>461964You mean between the sisters? If that's the case, I'll pass - I hate yuri.
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>>462095Seems like it, but I'm unsure how accurate it is. Here are snippets from that review and another, I'm guessing this is the full list of sexual themes.
No. 462187
>>462095>>462102No yuri between the sisters. The only sex scenes are between the m/f pairs. There's fight scenes between the girls that are probably intended to feed a ryona/catfight fetish but nothing sexual is actually happening in them.
The incest is part of the story and you don't see it on screen.
No. 462608
>>462102Thanks. It does seem pretty explicit from the description.
>>462187Thanks!
No. 462783
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I am looking for vn recommendations, so far the only vn I have read is umineko.
Preferences:
-no romance unless it's a bit of f/f, m/m.
- hurt no comfort, bittersweet/bad ending only. No happy ending.
-plotwists
- no porn, maybe a bit if it's really that important to the plot
- piratable
elements i'd enjoy: betrayal, terminal illness, war, other traumatic events and focus on their aftermath
I tried looking for some VNs myself on recommended pirate vn sites on reddit, but it was all disgusting porn
No. 462784
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Also, has someone played asphyxia? Is it worth buying? I saw it on steam, I wish I could pirate it.
Thoughts on upcoming VN Mojika - Truth Rears Its Ugly Head? The art looks beautiful, but I am afraid it will be some disgust fetish shit
No. 462789
>>462783You might like Mamiya.
>>462784Mojika is definitely weird fetish porn as far as I know. I'm pretty sure it's about an ugly guy raping his classmates or something gross like that. I would recommend using VNDB to find VN information. It's typical for VNs with extreme content to not mention it on storefronts because of credit card company rules.
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>>462783I think you’d like World’s end Mamiya (very fantastic non 18+ read)
No idea if it’s pirateable though since I got it as a steam gift.
No. 462905
>>461961The guy with bandages is so sexy to me kek
Anyways, with Geminism having it's official English TL out now, do you guys think there's a chance for Sayooshi and For Elise to get official TLs now? I'm pirating it, but I'll buy it later if it's actually good… Speaking of translations I really want but will probably never get, JAST just released Masquerade: Hell Academy. The same devs made Shingakkou -Noli me tangere- which I really want to read, but it's about 70 hours long, so I don't think any company would bother with such a long BL game, only bushoujoge get such treatment rip
No. 462910
>>462729I played it a long time ago in japanese. It's mind numbingly boring in the beginning and basically moe SOL slop until it gets more interesting and adds some sci-fi and crazier elements later on.
>>462905I'm surprised they
haven't released Sayooshi yet and did this one first, with how trendy Sayooshi's denpa aesthetics and vibes have been with online communities the past few years. So it seems likely. I want to read Shingakkou as well someday, I'm glad I learned japanese so things like that aren't an obstacle to me anymore.
No. 462913
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I started Dead End Aegis recently, light spoilers below. And keep in mind I've not finished it, so my opinions are probably going to change when I do, at least a little.
I find the premise of DEA interesting and agreeable, it's really cool to see a VN, an eroge no less, explore women's exploitation and suffering in society, times of war and the workplace. So far, it's even touched upon the intersectionality between sexism and racism, which surprised me. But I honestly really don't like the execution of the game so far. It critiques women being sexually abused, specifically by men, for men's gain (financially, sexually, ego-ly), and yet it is the very thing it critiques. I know someone'll read this and think "what were you expecting from a bishoujoge?", but I thought the H-scenes would really be there to show the horror of sexual exploitation. And yet, they're no different to any old rape scene in an eroge. It feels weird, like the either the author is a woman trying to write about her and her sister's pains in relation to being women, but forced to add "erotic" H. That, or, a man who realises his sexual misdeeds, feels guilty about it all, but just can't help himself.
It's such a shame, this could've been the VN SCUM Manifesto kek. It's a shame for me personally, too, because I relate to Minori a lot, as many women would. But even the things I relate to her with are tarnished for the sake of men's sexual satisfaction. Maybe the point is that she has severe BDD, but every time she or the narration degrades her body, it makes literally no sense. Constantly does it say she has "bushy, thick pubic hair", and yet it's pretty sparse. There was one line commenting on her shoulders too, something about them lacking muscle and being small, as if that's a bad thing for women anywhere in the world? Maybe in the 80s Anglosphere KEK. The visuals being inconsistent with the text is a common issue though, there's a character described as having a visible erection and freckles, yet he had neither. An internal issue I'm sure, I wished they fixed these kinds of things in editing.
I also think it's really, unbelievably stupid how the women get power from being turned on, and yet every man on board is ugly, old, fat, a roid pig, an ana-kun (not in the cute way), etc. How on Earth does that make any sense, at all? Wouldn't it make sense for them to allow husbands or boyfriends aboard the Cathedral? Maybe even force objects of the women's desires onboard to be raped? Kidnapping and raping men is dark, but it's not like this game shies away from such themes. Ideally, the women would all have either one man or a harem of qt bishounen androids or something like that. I keep hoping (as weird as this will sound lol) that maybe it'll later be revealed the men in control aren't allowing for such a thing on purpose because they want to rape the women themselves or whatever, but I doubt even that.
Sorry for sperg rant, but I'm scared to talk about this in any other visual novel space, lest I get lynched for being even mildly feminist, lol. Also, I hate how scotes act like this is some sort of feminist holy grail of a work, but then again, feminism to moids is either self serving and thusly good, or women focused and thusly bad.
>TLDR: rape game says rape is bad, but that's a little hypocritical. Also, the UMP lives on
No. 462915
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>>462913Samefag, I hate Minori's magical girl design. Purely from an objective point of view, it looks ugly. I like Nana's though, she's cute (which is funny, because I don't like her personality at all lol. Why does my favourite get a bad design, and my least favourite a cute one, dang it).
No. 462925
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>>462784Like
>>462789 said, it's fetish porn. Checking VNDB to see the tags for a certain VN you may want to read, like Mojika's in picrel, will help you in the future.
No. 463067
>>462913>yet it is the very thing it critiques.Yeah, this pretty much sums up most male media in general when it comes to these things. Not a vn and it didn't ever attempt to be feminist, but Blue Archive's whole thing is the mc being an adult helping out his students and it heavily emphasises how adults should protect children, yet it's mostly known as the lolicon gacha and it has loads of fanservice and implied romantic interactions between the characters and the mc. Male media always tends to carry this feeling of hypocrisy and contradiction of its own messaging when it comes to women and children like, 99% of the time, and eroge feels like that too even when it's trying to tackle those types of themes.
>lest I get lynched for being even mildly feminist, lol.Understandable, any time you bring up anything like this you'll just get screeches about how you shouldn't be reading vns in the first place, as if you can't enjoy certain aspects of the story while also being aware of its flaws.
>>462915Her whole torso area looks so weird, it's like she's naked but there are no nipples so I guess it's just a skin colored outfit. Definitely a bad design, just seems like an ugly coombait.
No. 463551
>>463067You took the words out of my mouth with this whole post! I didn't know that about Blue Shartchive - but I'm not surprised.
I hate this mentality, if I didn't enjoy VNs, I wouldn't read them in the first place, and that goes for 99.99% of readers. Men are incapable of accepting, let alone understanding, difference of opinion or nuance though, so it's not shocking they react like children.
I thought her boobs had merged together when I first saw it kek, it's such an odd design choice…
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>>462913It's dumb, moids have always said that Black Cyc or related brands have "strong female characters". For example, in MinDead Blood, there's a singer who masturbates on stage… but she's acktually super wise and philosophical! It comes off as you said more or less, stronk heroines who are constantly in compromising sexual situations.
I agree Dead (End) Aegis was wasted potential because the setting was potentially interesting. Have you considered playing Gore Screaming Show? It's the only other long game directed by the artist behind Dead End Aegis. However, it does have a loli character. The really violent scenes are confined to the bad ends, which are retardedly easy to dodge, despite each of the three starting heroines having 2 bad ends and 1 good end. It's getting a remake soon, so I guess that'll be interesting. It actually manages to be pretty scary at points despite how goofy the titular antagonist is.
I'm currently beginning Dead Days, which I don't have high expectations for, really. That's a big issue with these edgy games; they're painful to read but maybe have a good true route ending.
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>>464977That sucks about MinDead Blood, I always thought it looked really cool. I'm not exactly surprised, but I didn't expect that kek.
I have read through GSS actually! I enjoyed it overall funnily enough, I thought the cast was likable, story was alright and I love Gore (the character). I wish more VNs had freakish monsters like him, or even media in general. I didn't like the true route's end too much,
they were too soft with Yuka. I know the point was that she truly died and went to rest in peace, but it felt like Kyoji was too flippant about her being responsible for rape, murder and cannibalism. Still, I had fun reading it. I'm partial for works that talk about the importance of love and have love itself be what overcomes challenge though lol. I wonder what the remake will be like, I'm betting updated art, maybe music too, and a script rewrite. Nothing too much. Would be cool to have new content, but I doubt it. If they do add content however, I hope there's a route where
Yoshiki lives, he was my favourite character, it sucked he died every time.I agree edgy VNs can suck but can really pay off sometimes. It's why I love Nitro works so much, they're edgy, but really fun and intense at times. Please update us on Dead Days if you feel like it nonna!
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>>465143Yeah Yuka's route felt rushed and I didn't have much sympathy for her. I felt depressed in her bad end where Kyoiji becomes Gore, but yeah she needed more cathartsis in her route. Maybe the remake will add some extra stuff for her character arc? Who knows!
Kiruru is such a fun character so far in Dead Days, her bad ending was pretty brutal for the annoying moid mc lol.
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>>462784>Thoughts on upcoming VN Mojika - Truth Rears Its Ugly Head? The art looks beautiful, but I am afraid it will be some disgust fetish shitNona… For fuck's sake, do a little bit of research. Don't just look at any Jap VN that comes out on Steam and think "hey, the art is good, I'll give it a try!". It's a rape porn game, and the incel power fantasy plot is just the cherry on top.
https://vndb.org/v21667 (red heart means censored sex scenes, green heart means uncensored, gray means censored status unknown)
>>464977I was gonna ask what game this is kek, I knew it was some ClockUp fuckup.
>>463067I swear, moids can't pay attention unless there's masturbation fodder somewhere. They also are incapable of creating without inserting their fetishes into it. Plus, PC VNs are expected to be eroge.
Honestly, if you truly can't stand moid hypocrisy and porn, why play eroge in the first place? All the female characters are waifubait and fap material by default, no matter how "strong" of a character they are. And if the story sounds great on paper, it's highly likely that the retard who wrote it will fuck it up at some point and then the plot falls apart. I haven't read Demonbane but apparently this happens there as well, something about rape (because of course). And I think for most edgy eroge like Black Cyc stuff, the plot is just an excuse for the porn and fetishes lol. I feel this is the case with most, if not all eroge. They're not even "pretending to be feminist" or pretending to be anything, really. It's wrong to go into one thinking there will be a meaningful message.
>>462783Learn to use the VNDB's search function to give yourself recs and you won't run into these problems ever again.
No. 467438
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>>467403>Honestly, if you truly can't stand moid hypocrisy and porn, why play eroge in the first place?I (kind of) answered that here
>>463551. If I couldn't stand moid hypocrisy, I wouldn't watch, read or play anything. I do hate porn, but what I love about eroge is the culture of authors being able to do whatever they like because of that 18+ label. Also, I like eroticism kek
>It's wrong to go into one thinking there will be a meaningful message.I disagree. In Muv Luv Alternative
a character is raped by and mind broken by aliens which she feels guilty for experiencing, as well as physically enjoying. The rape was shown on screen, but there (for once) was a good reason for that. She wanted another character to see everything in its entirety, to truly understand what happened to her. I didn't like how "porny" the CGs were, but it wasn't that bad imho. This is resolved by another character loving her regardless, not even in spite, but because her trauma being irrelevant to her as a person. I think that's a very meaningful message myself
I'm curious though
nonnie, do you not like any sort of eroge at all? Do you prefer all ages releases of eroge/only sfw VNs; what are some of your favourites if so?
No. 467441
>>467438>If I couldn't stand moid hypocrisyNo I wasn't talking about (you), meant "you" in general.
>spoilerI know the message is good in the text but the fact that there are porn CGs completely negates any good intentions it could've had. It's like movies that show a female character's rape in extreme, graphic detail for no reason other than the director gets off to it, while pretending it's "for art's sake" or "to show just how much suffering it causes her" so he can get away with it.
>I'm curious though nonnie, do you not like any sort of eroge at all?Did I say in my post I never touch eroge? Anyone can enjoy that shit, I was just warning others not to go in and expecting meaningful themes to be handled well with no sexualization, since they're porn games after all. They can have interesting themes and I enjoy how different eroge stories feel to mainstream stuff. Knowing that they're fap material from the get go helps filter out the blatant sex stuff because I already know what to expect. They're good for freely exploring topics and genres that would be too controversial otherwise, but the fact that they're porn games meant to arouse the male player means there will always be some hypocrisy in there.
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Rance 03 in a few weeks
No. 468460
>>468457At least it will keep
them busy for a while.
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Reading geminism, it's actually surprisingly cute and a lot better than I was expecting.
It's basically bullying poor people simulator though.
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>>468814>filenameIs this high on homobait?
No. 468938
>>463551Late but I'm glad my post resonated with you nonna. People are always really extreme with this shit for sure. They'll even reduce games that have a heavy focus on story to being just porn solely to try to "own" anyone who likes them but not the porn. Acting like if you like a story heavy, 60+ hour eroge you can't be a fan anymore if you weren't into the 5 scattered h scenes in the routes that make up like what, 5% of the whole text and were removed in the all ages version kek. It's so retarded and it's a mentality I would expect from people who aren't into vns and genuinely think all of them are nukige, but coming from people who claim to be actual fans.
>>467438>If I couldn't stand moid hypocrisy, I wouldn't watch, read or play anything. Even mainstream movies and tv shows have some degree of moidshit in them, so unless you severely limit what you read and watch you'll never truly have fully "unproblematic" consumption anyways, so yeah.
No. 469118
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>>468960Finished! Overall I was impressed by the quality since I went in not really expecting anything worth while but I actually really enjoyed it! The ending CG was very sexy.
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>>469118What else did you like?
No. 469251
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>>469243I thought the twists in the game were pretty well set up (nothing too bullshitty that makes you feel like they pulled it out of their ass just to confuse the reader) but the main stand out for the game is the character dynamics, each of the twins has a compelling dynamic with their respective love interest and the dynamic between the boys themselves is a lot of fun to watch. My favorite part of the VN was just them getting milkshakes at a shitty diner because of how good the characters play off each other.
The VN also did a really really good job of making you feel bad for Awasumi and Kikyou because they're so fucking poor.
I've heard the writer is a woman which kinda explains why the guys are both handsome boyfriends kek.
No. 469563
>>469562NTA but it was called Alice Blue. They released Ore no Shita de Agake, which was a simulation game and had Suzuken (Masquerade ~Jigoku Gakuen SO/DO/MU~) as the artist.
I forgot what else they released. Check VNDB.
No. 470026
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What’s the worst VN related opinion you’ve seen? I saw this the other day and literally face palmed.
No. 470280
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Fata Morgana may be getting an american live movie adaptation.
on one hand it would be a passion project, so even if technically lacking it could be enjoyable enough for fans of the vn
on the other hand, if they need to look for producers/directors on fucking steam of all places that "director" sounds like a clown.
i'll watch anyway if it reaches the movie theaters (lol never)
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>>470026Moid who plays BLVN thinks it's a 'a bit too gay'.
No. 471561
>>470026That's a lot of words to say he cooms to the H scenes and that vn stories have no worth to him without the coom. I've noticed a bunch of retards like this who will agressively comment on any vn release and ask if it's going to have sex in it, otherwise they won't buy it because muh censorship even for vns that don't have that originally kek. Claiming all sex scenes enrich the story is hilarious too, in so many vns the sex is poorly written and pretty much adds nothing, you can tell they just had to awkwardly insert it in there to fill their quota. Either that or it's just the author's fetishes randomly inserted into the story even when it doesn't make sense. It ruins my immersion more if I'm reading a nicely written story only to get spammed with slop H scenes that contrast with how the rest was written.
>>470284People who call others tourists are always the biggest tourists themselves.
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>>470026Tough choice, but reading this entire discussion had me so angry while it was ongoing. Nie no Hakoniwa is as much an otome game as Lamento is a galge because there are a couple of pretty girls.
No. 471592
>>470280That’s interesting… on one hand, I guess fatamoru doesn’t use gameplay elements
too much, on the other hand exploring the house as this semi-ghost was more immersive than just watching the same scenes playing would be, it had such good atmosphere. Especially the twists in the game and the three doors, not sure how they’ll adapt. I think this might be sovlfvl but might also look like a high school anime club production. I will watch anyway because I love fatamoru.
No. 471653
>>470026>>471561It's always funny when moids try to argue that h-scenes add to the romantic experience, because they almost always read like some poorly written doujin and are completely out of character. There's nothing romantic or sensual about them.
>H-scenes for VNs are like final boss fights for JRPGs>They reward the playerHoly autism.
No. 471740
>>471653Right, it's pretty rare that I read an H scene and actually feel like it's actually as well written as the rest of the story. It's usually just jarring compared to the rest and worsens the experience. Even men I know that read vns say H scenes mostly suck so you know one has to be a particular brand of coomer to unironically believe they add a lot to a vn kek. These types should just read nukige if all they care about are the H scenes and they see them as rewarding. Literally no one is going into massive 60+ hour story vns to be "rewarded" by the shitty 30 minute sex scenes unless they're completely retarded.
>>471662Same. These losers really think being lolicons/degens automatically makes them more knowledgeable than people who have been consuming these mediums for decades. Then you go look at their profiles and they've only played some popular gacha, read 10 vns max and watched a few recently aired anime. They really think being le true fan of weebshit is basically all about just being a lolicon and "gatekeeping" things from normies when they're just as ignorant (if not more) than all the people they call normies. They're always extremely defensive if anyone even slightly criticizes anything they jerk off to and it's just obnoxious.
No. 471744
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>>471561Reminds me of when culture warrior scrotes got assblasted over the h scenes in Kanon being removed for the official release despite the vast majority of people who plays Key visual novels unanimously agree those scenes make the experience worse. I've even see scrotes cry that Little Busters was censored despite the original release not having any h scenes at all.
No. 471776
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>>471744Yeah kek it's so stupid and I read the original release of LB myself. I'll probably read the Ecstacy version at some point but it'll be for the extra routes, not the H scenes. It feels like they just use vns, anime and other weeb things as a way to insert their culture war agenda so they don't actually do their research or care if the H scenes are even good or there in the original. They don't care about the actual content and it's replaceable so long as they perceive that it affirms whatever deranged beliefs they have.
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>>471744>>471776I don't know how anyone could masturbate to Key girls, I love hot anime characters as much as the next weeb and I think the Key artstyle is cute but they look like little asexual alien children. They are cute in the same way an animal is cute to me, so them having sex scenes is distressing to me, does that make me a prude?
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>>471810No I agree, I'm a huge Key fan, I just play the games without the sex in them because the character designs are so cutesy and sexless and I like that about them. It's just that every time there is a fanservice moment, I feel intense whiplash.
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>>471740>>471776I'm glad nonnies have noticed moids using eroge (otaku stuff in general, but eroge seems to have had a boost in popularity recently, for some reason) as fodder for their retarded culture war. It's one of the few things on the Internet that actually maddens me. They do not care for an entire medium, nor do they have any knowledge about it, yet they use it as a gotcha 24/7. They don't understand why all ages games are becoming more popular, as they see it as a black and white issue. They use the same "muh artistic vision" excuse when talking about H content constantly, as if the majority of H is at all plot relevant. They call you a tourist for having any sort of criticisms of the industry/medium/surrounding culture, as if they don't constantly whinge themselves - it's only okay when they do it. Not to mention, if you well and truly love something, you will have critiques of it. If you think VNs are wholly perfect, you're being a disingenuous retard or are a complete noob, and should be gatekept either way. Reddit and male IBs are completely unstable because of faggots like this, Twitter isn't much better. Culture war bros and the men using them to their advantage are a cancer to otaku culture.
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Some scrote insisted to me that GLB was actually copying Ryukishi and when I proved that this is obviously false he insisted that it’s actually really deep for plot reasons and totally not just laziness.
I genuinely don’t get why Ryukishi doesn’t just commission a halfway decent artist and character designer and continues to use his godawful art even in current day (just with a different artist doing colors so it looks uncanny). I don’t get moe autists claiming that his art looks good.
No. 472007
>>471809>little asexual alien childrenKek. But no you're not a prude, I feel the same way.
>>471844>if you well and truly love something, you will have critiques of it. Exactly. This mentality that you have to condone and fuck with absolutely everything in a work to like it is completely braindead and seems so prevalent these days. It's like they can only think in black and white and will try to call you a hypocrite solely for being able to enjoy something and still admit to its flaws. Literally everything I like has flaws to it (not just vns) and I can still like those things anyways without liking the flaws, it's really not a hard concept to comprehend. Imagine how retarded it'd be if people said you can only love someone if you think they have no flaws, or that you can only enjoy the good parts of life if you also condone animal abuse, murder, rape, assault, or any of the tons of terrible things about life and human existence. That's how those people sound like when they act like you have to be ~one of them~ and enjoy jerking off to lolis to be a true fan. Or alternatively when it's the other side pretending you have to be (insert insult) to enjoy something, like what some people on this website do when they try to moralfag and generalize anyone who likes weebshit kek.
>>471985He just made the outfit more coomery kek.
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>>472049He’s just not good at character design
I genuinely think this is the best art I’ve seen from him and even then it’s such a strange mix of otaku tropes like the random fishnets and moe sleeves(he reused this design for piece in umineko but originally it was for a rozen maiden design contest in GLB)
No. 472072
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>>472061Too bad because that design would be cute if he replaced the weird fishnets with proper tights and toned down the details. Why does she have a veil attached to her crown? A bowtie AND a cravat? What's with the wa-lolita sleeves when the design doesn't have any other Japanese elements? This is why I prefer his more simple designs like Bernkastel, Rosa, and Ange.
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Speaking of Ryuukishit, I wish someone would upload this already. First game was trashy, but it was entertaining nonetheless. I have a soft spot for it because it made trannies seethe. At least in this one there's no moid in the promo material and it looks like it might be yuri instead.
No. 472147
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>>472116In the first game, a group of close female friends wake up in a dark room, and are forced to participate in a death game where they choose to sacrifice one another. They all have hidden grudges against each other and surprise surprise, they volunteer the one they hate most to be sacrificed and murdered. There is a little boy in a cage, in a catatonic state, watching the whole thing unfold. Little by little you begin to learn why they hate each other. The plot twist is that
the boy in the cage is the MC and he once used to be apart of their friend group. He idealized these girls because their friendship seemed so pure and loving and unconditional. The MC goes on and on in his monologue about how men are like monkeys, there is no real friendship or camaraderie between men, only hierarchies and competition. Only women can love and men are the root of all evil and only drag other people down (truth).
This leads into a flashback where the MC tells his friends that he wishes he could be reborn in his next life as a girl. When he dies from illness later on, he meets "God" and begs to be reborn as a girl. This is the part that makes trannies seethe. In this world, souls have their own sex (why? don't ask me), so a man's soul could never be reborn as a woman. This is for funsies I guess, God decides to strike a deal with him and put him through a trial. At the end of the trial, he can decide if he still wants to become a girl or not. That's the reason behind the contrived death game scenario, to show the MC that women are humans capable of having negative feelings, hurting others, being selfish, etc. Women are capable of feeling a variety of emotions, even harmful and toxic ones (hence the titular "kaleidoscope"). It's clumsily written and hamfisted, but it's pretty much what Ryuukishi already does with his female characters, he makes them seem like moe moe caricatures and then humanizes them in way you normally don't see in otaku works. That's a big reason why Rena is such a fan favorite especially after they read her arc.
But yeah, the implication that in this world you can only change your sex/gender through impossible and supernatural means made genderfaggots seethe. That plus the commentary on male nature probably makes it one of Ryuukishi's most hated games. I'm probably leaving out some things because I read it like 3 years ago, kek. I had fun with it, though. No. 472192
>>471561These are the same people who get upset about "censorshhip" when some VNs have all-ages versions with extra content like the Realta Nua version of FSN or the Amantes Amentes version of Dies Irae.
>>471844>They do not care for an entire medium, nor do they have any knowledge about it, yet they use it as a gotcha 24/7.Maybe it's just me, but I've noticed a weird shift in VN community attitudes as of late. I see people, especially on Reddit, saying, "I am a long-time VN fan; I've been reading them for 3 years," or something like that. Which doesn't seem like that much time, relatively speaking? It seems like a lot of new fans have come into the community acting like they know everything, as well as acting like reading for a mere 5ish years makes you equipped to call others 'casuals.'
No. 472482
>>472190I'm not really active in fanbases but the only time I've felt that way was when I saw people who claimed to be "fans" constantly trashing something I like but still having their whole profile be about it (even down to their usernames, profile pictures, etc) and being super active in the fanbase for some reason even though all they do is trash on it. I think stuff like that is definitely strange but it's different from say, just not liking H scenes but still enjoying the other parts of a story in a vn, unless it's a nukige or something. I can think of a few vns where I thought they had a slow start and some pretty meh or even straight up bad routes and that made up a large chunk of the vn, but then the true route and some other things were great so I still enjoyed them in the end. Or vns where they had a bunch of bad H scenes and some retarded elements but I still liked the overall story and art. You could also just really like specific characters even you think it isn't that good as a whole.
>>472192>3 yearsThat's definitely not a long time, I've been reading vns for over 10 years and I still consider myself a newbie compared to some other people who read way more than me (and for longer).
No. 472650
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going to play huniepop rn because some anons in the things that make you chuckle said it has funny dialogue. i'm not paying for that shit so i'm pirating it, hopefully my computer won't get gigaAIDS
No. 472652
>>472650The humour is
alright imo, there's some good lines but you can tell exactly which era it was made in.
No. 472810
>>472650update: this is so fucking boring. the only time i laughed so far was when the japanese chick called me racist for gifting her chopsticks
>>472668>>472671i want to bash her head in with a rock
No. 473130
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>>462874Sorry for the late response, but since this has no replies, hopefully it's okay if I respond. Enigma: is probably what you're wanting. It has some pretty heavy fujobait in two of the four routes, and it was published in English by the same company that published MAMIYA. It's not terribly long, and it goes on sale regularly. I think this is your best bet. You might also like Akaya Akashiya Ayakashino; the writer actually wrote a BL game before it. Dies Irae is also worth checking out if its premise looks interesting to you. I can't exactly recommend it because I didn't like it very much, but there's a decent-sized fujo fanbase for a reason. I've heard Lux-Pain is also in that vein, but I haven't played it, so I can't say if that's true or if it's even any good. Finally, Little Busters may also be worth exploring because it really should've been a BL game. I don't know if it's exactly what you want, but I think it might scratch that itch.
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>>473130>Finally, Little Busters may also be worth exploring because it really should've been a BL game.NTA but yes, KyouRi will always be canon (in my heart) and the drama cd Bokura no Asa just affirms that sentiment each time I listen to it. I really should re-read it, it has been 10+ years…
Your other reccs sound interesting, so I'll add them to my backlog, fujobait in visual novels intended for a non-fujo audience is my favorite thing in the world.
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>>470026You can come across some real specimens in vndb reviews.
No. 474505
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>>473130Enigma sounds interesting! I'll check it out.
>Dies Irae is also worth checking out if its premise looks interesting to youI know of it but it's way too chuunige for me kek.
Thanks so much for the reccs nonna you went above and beyond!
>>473909I haven't read little busters but I really like the art of Kyousuke and Riki can't lie.
No. 475008
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Nonnas, I want to start reading Visual Novels again. It's been way too long and I would love to get your recommendations (be these the vns that i have to emulate or not), preferrably something that wouldn't take too long to read (unless it has a VERY good story…). I've read a plenty of VNs through my life, but I haven't checked anything Key, for example. Any suggestion counts!
I've recently replayed Ace Attorney series and enjoyed it quite a bit, if that counts. Been eyeing Higurashi for quite some time, too…
No. 475118
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>>475008What about 999? It has gameplay elements, which might be less intimidating than a full-on VN if it's been a while since you've played one. Plus, 999 has a similar feeling to Ace Attorney.
No. 475335
>>474450It's hilarious, reminds me of that pickme who got rape threats from scrotes for having a room full of Euphoria merch, and thinks the VN is a deep and powerful feminist work or some shit. Two sides of the same retardation, honestly.
>>471985His artistic skill is only slightly above ZUN's. While every Touhou fan knows ZUN sucks ass at drawing, it appears that Ryukishi's fans are in denial.
No. 475766
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>>475761It was this post and while she obviously didn’t deserve this comment she shouldn’t have been shocked that a weirdo scrote interacted with her when she’s open about being into a hentai rape game. As for the people arguing that it’s feminist I have no clue, zoomers are retarded.
No. 475862
>>475765The OP is beautiful, but the fanbase surrounding this game annoys me so badly. There was a 45-minute video I watched on YouTube about the plot, and it seems like one of those stories where shit just happens. I am a huge fan of a particular 'edgy' VN for its story and characters, so I try not to be too judgmental, but Euphoria just seems nonsensical based on the plot twists and summaries I've read. Plus, it is categorized as a nukige, so I really cannot imagine the story is that extensive.
>>475766Thank you! I know people use the fact that the artist is a woman as some kind of "gotcha" when arguing in favor of it, but I can't imagine wanting all that merch of the game. I've seen a weirdly high number of women who defend it. The men who like it are way worse just because I KNOW it's not for the plot, but I have seen multiple women on YouTube acting like there is something unique about it, and I wish I understood what they see in it.
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>>476494I am liking the fujobait quite well thus far though
No. 476574
>>475862Using the fact that someone involved is female to defend something is always so retarded to me, as if misogynistic women can't exist kek and if it's a woman it means you can't criticize something anymore. It just reinforces to me that men see women as a monolith when they say shit like that because it's basically saying "see? this other woman likes (insert messed up content) so since you're also a woman you can't be mad at it". It's like they can't conceptualize that different women would have different ways of thinking and thus see it as some sort of epic gotcha.
I assume what those women see in Euphoria is just that it's the most edgy and messed up thing they know about and they like signaling how special they are for being into something like that plus a lot of them are shallow and mostly care about vn aesthetics and appearing as an edgy e-girl.
No. 476976
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has anynonny played this? what are your thoughts? i want to check it out this week so hide any spoilers pretty please
No. 476986
>>476976It was surprisingly one of the most tame Yandere games I’ve ever played (there isn’t even any cage kun style stuff)
It was mostly just kinda boring but I liked the art in it.
No. 477048
>>476976It's not bad. The romance is very typical yandere stuff you'll see in female oriented media. You won't waste too much time playing it since playtime is only a few hours long.
The dev is also that infamous ftm transsexual so if you're mentally ill and retarded, it'll bother you enough to think it's tranny shit.
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>>477048>if you're mentally ill and retarded, it'll bother you enough to think it's tranny shit.Nice try, tranny
No. 477141
>>477118ehh thembies are easy to ignore, most fanart for this game draws angel with a female body anyway
>>477048>infamouslike how? the name homie sounds familiar, i think i read something about her on here but i'm not sure if it's the same person
No. 477238
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>>477213I don't really like gameplay like that either, it just feels like a chore to get through so I can read again.
No. 477267
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>>477213For me, it depends on the type of minigame. I like investigation and puzzle-solving games that are related to the plot. I don't like combat because it's usually poorly-done and makes me wish I were playing a JRPG. I also don't like random things that feel like they're just there to pad out the VN.
No. 477344
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A highly-acclaimed utsuge recently got a fan translation, but now, looking at the character sprites, I'm thinking I might have been misled. Before that, it looked like my kind of game, between its depressing nature and focus on magical girls. Has anyone played this? Is it overrated?
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>>477164There's also the VNs made by purplekeckleon/papayakitty/glitchedpuppet and her tranny boyfriend Eevee
No. 477361
>>476976Game for edgy "i love
problematic stuff" twitter tifs made by a resident horrorcow tif that cut off her leg. Don't even bother.
No. 477372
>>477213I quite like it, assuming it makes sense plot wise. Utawarerumono, Kichikuou
Rance and anything puzzle based are especially fun for me. If there's no plot relevance to the gameplay I don't mind it, but I could do without.
No. 477378
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Is SubaHibi worth reading? I tried a little bit ago but got irratated by the dialogue within the first ~2 hours and haven't touched it since. I might have been too harsh on it but I also don't really want to sink 40 hours into something I may not enjoy and I have other VNs I could start and finish instead.
No. 477379
>>477378Yes but only till the end of looking glass insects (both endings are very good for it), the jabberwocky chapters are complete and utter trash.
The prologue of the game is meant to be a trippy out of place experience so I’d say just try and focus on the out of place scenes before the actual game begins.
Rule of thumb is generally that whenever Takuji’s doing some schizo shit the game is at its best.
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>>477378I love Subahibi an unhealthy amount, so I'm biased, but I think you should give it a shot. The first chapter of Subahibi is not at all indicative of the VN. The first chapter is supposed to be weird and confusing, and it becomes MUCH more readable after that. The Inventions chapter is widely regarded as the best, and I'd say if your opinion doesn't improve by then, it's probably not worth the time. Also, as the other anon said, the ending is a little disappointing
aside from the third secret ending, but the Jabberwocky chapters are so short that I'd say you should just stick it out so you get the full experience. If you like denpa or horror at all, it's so worthwhile.
No. 477437
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i watched a full playthrough of clinical trial on youtube and honestly i didn't hate it. it was okay and pretty tame considering what kind of person created it. it's such basic, on-the-nose self-indulgent female fantasy if you think about it:
>thin and frail petite shy le quirky artist female protagonist, perfect for self-inserting
>meets an autistic guy who becomes obsessed with her out of nowhere
>he's very tall and strong, size difference fetish fodder, of course
>she goes through a traumatic event (sexual assault)
>he is reliable, responsible, wants to provide, protect and take care of her, obedient
>obsessive to the point of making a cliche yandere shrine of the protagonist but still respects her boundaries and autonomy somewhat
>respects her gender whims (!!!)
>grew up in a religious family, virgin, likely has never touched porn, easily flustered
>kills her rapist (who did not respect her gender whims!!!)
>if rejected, literally kills himself
>if accepted, buys a house where they live happily ever after
see what i mean? clinical trial is just a typical trad fantasy with some yandere edge and gendiesm spinkled in. just what zoomer TIFs want
i liked the art and music in it. the small sprites are ugly as shit though, if you want to add detail just increase the resolution, don't just slap on smaller pixels wtf.
some say it was too slow-paced but I like slowburn and learning about characters through a ton of dialogue. 5/10, would be a 7 if i could play it on linux
No. 477438
>>477437That art of their daughter pretty adorable not gonna lie.
Overall agreed though, it's strange how someone who literally cut their own leg off made something so basic and pure.
No. 477955
>>477378i tried reading it but there's a chapter (i think 2 or 3) that contains way too much abuse towards the protagonist and the girl with black hair. i know this is a typical trope of VNs, but at sometimes felt intentionaly
triggering so i dropped
No. 477985
>>477379I don't think the Jabberwocky chapters are that bad outside of the little sister thing and I only ever saw them getting hate once new fans started getting into the game which is funny to me.
>>477955You probably mean the It's my Own Invention and Looking Glass Insects chapters, which are the 3rd and 4th ones iirc (after Down the Rabbit Hole I and II). I didn't drop it but I agree with you especially for Looking Glass Insects, the stuff she goes through felt like too much at times and unecessary for sure, especially the infamous dog scene.
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the heaven's feel route of fate stay night is super based
No. 478094
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>>478017Heaven's Feel is also my favorite route. In addition to Sakura being my favorite heroine, it has so much development for side characters I like (the priest and Illya).
No. 478433
>>476976Honestly, I was willing to give this a chance despite Homies history, because I always like a good male yandere but I found it really dull? The love interest, Lee, was also really boring and pretty unattractive, despite me usually liking the trope of "boring every-man is actually really fucked up", I just don't get the thirst for him (there are legit people printing dakis of this generic man in Homies thread kek). I also didn't really dig the artstyle, despite being a huge fan of generic brown haired cartoony men.
>>477437Pretty much this.
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>>480061Ugh, I can't bring myself to play unfinished games because I'm always worried about the devs never finishing them. Have you tried 428 Shibuya Scramble? I thought it was a pretty good mystery, but the best part was the humor. It has a ton of bad ends, and it's just a solid read overall. Gnosia was also pretty good. It's kind of like a game of werewolf but single player. There are some randomized elements, but the overarching story/mystery isn't random.
No. 480116
>>478017Is it actually good and less moid pandering than the movies? I couldn't get past them because it felt like a male fantasy of saving a poor girl rape
victim just to have sex with her. Though, again, I've only seen the movies.
No. 480228
>>480116You've got to read the VN. The movies cut so much character development out, and how the main characters relates to the themes of family and living for oneself. Sakura isn't just a poor rape
victim, but also someone with a lot of hatred, someone who lashes out childishly at the world, she makes a fool of herself and her flaws are pointed out.
I'm also not a fan of the idea that rape
victims should not be shown engaging in wholesome sexual activity. Sakura has very clear reasons for liking Shirou, and she is very clearly sexually attracted to him in the VN.
But I won't deny the fantasy of "saving a poor rape
victim." There are moid pandering things but they're not necessarily bad. Just know that it's a cohesive story with believable characters despite the fact that good writing doesn't usually go along with that.
No. 481566
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Nonas, what are some of your favorite obscure or lesser-known visual novels? I liked Soundless a lot. It had a really interesting style of horror, plus a religious cult setting.
No. 482062
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>>481597If you do, please share your thoughts! It recently got updated art. It exceeded my expectations, especially with it being an OELVN.
There are some hidden files that unlock after you beat the main story. They help expand on the setting quite a bit. No. 482866
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>>481566Forest by Liar-soft. It's kind of bad kek but I liked it quite a bit.
No. 482883
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Any recommendations similar to picrel? I love this sort of folk horror with well laid out ritual elements and a mystery to solve.
JP only is fine.
No. 482885
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>>482883Did not played Paranormasight but horror related with rural folklore and superstitions around is the focal theme of Raging Loop. It is linear, though, you do not solve yourself but this novel has a nice flow to explain gradually. It has some moid-y humor moments and the last route
he sort of dating a middle schooler ew, the ending is a bit rushed but overall it was well built tension throughout.
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>>482883Seconding what
>>482885 said because I think Raging Loop is especially similar to what you want. There's a heavy focus on traditions and regional culture, and it definitely goes into detail with the rituals. Just be warned, the ending is offensively bad to the point where it's hard to recommend in good conscience. It's still worth a read, but be aware the ending is going to suck. Higurashi might also be worth a try, assuming you haven't read it yet. Again, it focuses on regional traditions, and there's a central mystery to solve.
No. 483677
>>482883You could try World End Syndrom or 7'scarlet though both of those games are more romance focused and last route of 7'scarlet is fucking retarded.
First Spirit Hunter/Death Mark game was fun but it's not a pure vn and it deals more with urban legends.
No. 483802
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>>482866I also liked Forest! It was extremely confusing, and there are still parts I don't know how to interpret, but it's one of the most unique experiences I've had with a VN. A denpa game written by the same guy is supposed to get a fan translation soon, which is interesting.
No. 484764
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>>484762Katawa Shoujo 15 years ago. Only because
1) it was free
2) easy to download
3) I really wanted to check what VNs were like
The troll route was the best.
No. 484785
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>>484762Either RE:Alistair or Absolute Obedience
No. 484802
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Anyone here play little busters? I've been going through the common route and it's been a fun ride. I've laughed quite a few times at the humor which is more than I can say about most dating sim VNs (I also got the switch version so I don't have to deal with the gooning scenes).
No. 484839
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>>484802YES I love it. Jun Maeda at his best, I think I'm gonna buy the Steam release and replay it which says something because I hardly buy video games. I hope you enjoy the individual routes, they're absolutely amazing though they definitely vary in quality, some of them being decent to amazing. There's also typical Key metaphysical bullshit but I loved it and honestly it's part of the fun. I love Rin like a daughter and have her nendoroid on my desk staring right at me as we speak kek
No. 484843
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>>484762I know some people say it isn't a true VN, but Ace Attorney was my introduction to the medium. I'll always defend its categorization as a visual novel, but Planetarian was my first 'pure' VN without gameplay.
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>>484762Danganronpa back in 2016 but I never finished it. Muv Luv was the first VN I properly completed though I think
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>>484762Tsukihime, I didn't finish it though.
No. 484857
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>>484762Katawa Shoujo like
>>484764>>484802Yes. I really liked it when I read it, the original all ages version didn't have H scenes so I never read those. Rin's route and Refrain are still dear to me, and the common route is pretty fun. Amazing osts too.
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>>484857>>484839>>484802https://key.prpage.jp/key25th_vote/For other Little Busters! fans and just keyfags in general, today's the last of Key's annual General Election.
You can vote for your favorite character, song, ost and vn work.
If you don't have a fav chara, vote for Kyousuke!
Reposting because I forgot the link
No. 484934
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>>484886>fanfic on ao3 about kirei kotomine as a teenager and enjoying it greatlyNTA but based.
No. 485790
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Are there any western VNs you can recommend with more serious plot and less or no focus on romance? Already done with the available Scarlet Hollow episodes. Athanasy was unexpectedly good.
No. 485792
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>>485790I posted about it earlier in the thread, but Soundless - A MODERN SALEM IN REMOTE AREA - is really, really good. If you're into horror, you'll like it. There is a very minor "romance" element, but it's kept ambiguous and isn't a focal point. I'd hesitate to even call it a romance, but I don't want you to feel duped if you decide to play it.
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Just pirated Mahoutsukai no Yoru, I'm pretty interested in the plot and I like the art quite a bit too. But I'll be completely honest and admit that I mostly picked it up because I find Soujuurou's design really cute for some reason, kek. I saw a bunch of his character sprites posted somewhere and just love the adorable little autistic expressions he has on them, so I started reading because I'm easily influenced. Hopefully I won't be disappointed.
No. 486046
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>>486038Nonna i love mahoyo and soujuro! He is the best part of the VN for me. I hope you enjoy it
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>>486046Reading it, in this second, I have the game window open right now. I enjoyed Type Moon's VN's before, so I hope I like this one too.
>>486052>the main trio's interactions are nice and the story is entertaining tooYeah, one of the reasons why I was interested is because I heard the character interactions were nice, also because I heard it was low on romance, and while I enjoy romantic stuff I like cute friendships too.
>About Soujuurou, I'm not that into him personally but I can see the appeal kekI admittedly don't know much about him yet, I didn't research much before playing because I didn't want to get major spoilers. So I might end up not liking him by the end kek, we'll see. I just saw a screencap of this face and I found it so cute that I felt the need to play the game (like I said before, easily influenced).
>It's also kinda funny and refreshing that he gets a shot where he's shirtlessThank you for telling me nonna. I'll be looking out for it them.
>the girls are good characters and there's pretty much no weird fanservice of them in it.I really like the girls designs too, they are very pretty. I played both original Fate and Tsukihime before and both of those had some fanservice in them but I still really enjoyed the girls design's in these games. For example, I love how Arcueid is essentially a powerful vampire princess but she wears a simple, casual long skirt and a turtleneck, I think it made the design's age very well.
No. 486078
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>>486068>while I enjoy romantic stuff I like cute friendships too.It's more focused on that, yeah.
>I just saw a screencap of this face and I found it so cute that I felt the need to play the gameRelateable, sometimes that's what gets me interested in trying out a vn too. I'll just see a cute character and be curious enough to start it, so I get you. Also I don't dislike him or anything, I just have more of a soft spot for the girls. Their interactions are funny and he has some cool scenes towards the end iirc.
>I played both original Fate and Tsukihime before and both of those had some fanservice in them but I still really enjoyed the girls design'sHaven't played Tsukihime yet (really need to get on that sometime), but I agree. Arcueid's design is simple but effective and iconic all these years later. Plus neco arc is instantly recognizable too.
No. 486098
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>>486038All I know is the collab event in FGO last year. The characters seemed neat.
Does the actual game have murder mystery solving as a plot point? Cause that was a fun part of the event.
No. 486106
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>>486038I hope you like it! I really enjoyed Mahoyo. It has a lot of connections to other Type-Moon stories, which I found interesting from a lore perspective. The art and presentation is in a whole other league compared to most VNs.
>>486052>I guess because it was supposed to have a sequel?This is my one complaint about Mahoyo. I feel like there's so much I wanted resolved, and I'm so scared we'll never see a resolution to it. I have so many remaining questions, and I'm so curious about what happens to certain characters, given what we know from Tsukihime and KnK.
>girls are good characters and there's pretty much no weird fanservice of them in itI also loved this. So many of Type Moon's female designs and outfits outside of FGO are so nice.
>>486078>Haven't played Tsukihime yet You need to play it! Were you planning on playing the remake or the original? I haven't gotten around to the remake, but I deeply enjoyed the original. I'm kind of sad they took out one of the antagonists from the original game just because I thought he was so funny conceptually and I like the VA they used in the anime. I hope the remake's Far Side routes come out within the next decade because they were the highlight of the original VN.
No. 486324
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Kind of offtopic but I have never wanted to kms more than after browsing r/visualnovels for more than 10 minutes once, never seen a bigger congregation of moid midwit takes in my life. The /vn/ threads on /jp/ rest in piss were pretty bad too, but definitely not on that level of bad, holy shit.
No. 486423
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>>486324>r/visualnovelsI have no idea why you would go there for any reason except to mock them. It's a bunch of men who have read a grand total of 5-20 VNs calling each other tourists, bitching about censorship/yaoi/otome/localization/the existence of women, and posting unfunny memes.
No. 486438
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>>485792Thanks for the rec, I just finished it and it was good. If you enjoyed this then I think you will love Misericorde!
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>>486324>>486441The mod of the subreddit (gambs) is a freak. I know he's infamous for the "Uchikoshi is a girl from California" thing, but on his former Twitter account, he "joked" about "raping minors" (18 is considered minor in Korea), talked about his sexual escapades and at least there was one instance of him posting a picture of a girl he allegedly was having sex with (her face wasn't shown), amongst other things I'm probably forgetting. He posted enough information to make himself identifible and his account was eventually leaked to his workplace, a Korean university. He alledges he was mistreated at that university and tried to stir up social media attention but his stupidity seems to have caught up to him, picrel. Now he spends his time being anti-korean on his newer twitter account (airkatakana) while waiting to be put to trial for defamation.
No. 486490
>>486324What did you expect from Plebbit? Genuinely asking. Everybody who actually uses a brain left that censored, tranny-run shithole ages ago.
>>486489>American in his 30sEvery time. Good riddance for the science community. Imagine this trash ever getting a tenure.
No. 486497
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>>486489Gambs is a personal cow of mine. I'm so glad someone else on this site is aware of him. There are some less depressing things he's done, like the time he made a post asking Reddit staff to consider JOPs a minority group subject to hate speech. Another time, he compared himself to Jesus. He also made a VNDB account after getting into a slapfight with the mods, and he had a review of Sakura no Uta that I probably saved screenshots of somewhere because it was so funny. I've wanted to post him in the Personal Cows thread before, but I didn't even know where to begin with all the shit he's done.
>posting a picture of a girl he allegedly was having sex with (her face wasn't shown)He captioned it with something like "congratulations on losing your virginity." He has also regularly said he would not fuck a woman over 23, and I remember people at the time speculating on the girl's age because some people thought she was in high school. Don't remember the reason people came to that conclusion.
No. 486498
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>>486497Same anon. This is the Jesus comment.
No. 486520
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>>486490>What did you expect from Plebbit?Here's the thing, nonna. I really expected nothing good but I was still severely disappointed.
>>486489>>486497>>486498Jesus christ… This was said before, but the fact that any sub for real women or GC political sub gets banned in 5 seconds but people like this are allowed to continue using one of the biggest social media sites undisturbed is actually fucking disgusting. Also
>Lately anyone who's even mentioned that they know Japanese have been getting downvoted pretty hard.>The reddit poilicy against Promoting Hate Based on Identity or Vulnerbility states:Pffft, this is so fucking dumb holy shit. He has a Shirou pfp too (I think, I don't use reddit enough to know if they are called pfp's there) but why does he unironically sound like this scrote instead??
No. 486731
>>486106I was thinking of reading the remake, but I'm not sure yet. I hope the sequels don't take too long to come out too but I wouldn't be surprised if they did since the remake already took a really long time to come out iirc.
>>486428I learned hiragana and katakana in a few days using a website (realkana), idk if you've tried that one but maybe it could help. Kanji I think it helps if you read vns and use hooking tools at first to build up your vocab.
>>486324I never really went there much but doesn't surprise me. Had no idea the mod was gambs
>>486489 , that guy just seems like a trainwreck and really obnoxious from everything I saw about him.
Also kek'd at
>>486423 "a bunch of men who have read a grand total of 5-20 VNs calling each other tourists" is the perfect way to describe most males into vns that I've come across. Applies for male anime fans too, they'll call you a tourist too for not masturbating to lolis even when they've only watched flavor of the month shows from the past 5 years and you've seen 10 times the amount of anime they have.
No. 486785
>>486652>at least here we can get some decent discussion going even if a bit slowMy one complaint about the VN thread here is its slowness. I guess it's to be expected, as it's a very scrotey hobby. I try to make posts to generate discussion here, but sadly, it's a niche interest. I like how much of the discussion on here deviates from popular opinions on other parts of the Internet. Farmers seem more willing to give criticism to VNs that are considered sacred cows elsewhere. I can only really discuss VNs on two places online, so I understand your frustration.
>>486734Men will read Grisaia, Majikoi, and Umineko and think they're experts on the medium. I know this was discussed in the BL thread, but with the recent drama involving Ooe, there were men on the VN subreddit referring to BL and otome games as "shoujo games." In context, they were talking about how women just rate otome/BL unjustifiably highly because those games are targeted at women. They literally know nothing and have the audacity to call other people tourists.
>>486781I don't like the word "tourist," honestly, and I think it's a word used by men justify their shitty opinions by appearing more knowledgeable than the person with whom they disagree. It's more about the fact that 20 VNs isn't a lot, but these same men will bitch about women blindly rating anything that appeals to us too highly because we're "tourists." It's like the Dunning-Kruger effect, but with Japanese PowerPoints rather than anything actually important kek. I wouldn't worry so much about if you are or aren't a tourist, as I think we're more making fun of the type of scrote to hypocritically use that term rather than people not reading "enough" VNs.
No. 486798
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Do fanmade VNs count??
No. 486864
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>>486798You're making me insanely nostalgic, this spawned so many great fics and fanart back in the day.
I suffered immensely trying to get it to run + patched correctly… so many hours scouring livejournal… it was an important entry point for me though, encouraged me to try out other VNs after I'd played every route 5 times.
No. 486865
>>486798Of course. I've never been into fanfic VNs, but the amount of time and effort that go into them is astounding.
>>486438>I think you will love Misericorde!Thank you for the rec! I've had my eye on it for a while, but I'm so hesitant to start an unfinished VN. I'm excited if it's at all similar to Soundless.
No. 486954
>>486781There's a difference between someone who postures and constantly calls other people tourists while barely having read anything themselves, and someone who just hasn't read that much and is normal about it. If I just saw someone who hasn't read a lot but they don't act like they know the entire medium, shit up discussions and pretend to be above everyone else into it, I wouldn't really call them a tourist since there would be no real reason for me to insult them. Especially if they show a genuine interest in the medium and try to assimilate, be reasonable and just have normal discussions about what they read.
However, I will call retarded men who think they know it all while not having read much tourists, especially when they're constantly doing the same thing to anyone who criticizes their retarded behaviors.
No. 488901
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428 Shibuya Scramble's director just announced a new VN done in the same style!
No. 489135
>>488839Have you played
Saya no Uta and Sayonara wo Oshiete? It rips off a lot from both and even namedrops them in-game. All the talk about HATE reminded me of I Have no Mouth But I Must Scream too.It's super long, prologue is about 20 hours minimum.
It's got a lot of naked guys if that interests you. Play the PC version, Switch one censors all the lewd stuff.
No. 489144
>>488839I'm loving it so far. Haven't been this excited about a game in a while.
>>489136Yeah that's actually true. I didn't stop to think about it but a lot of routes are dedicated to romances and there's even a harem route. It's not in common route at least. Although it's kind of funny that the harem route is the one that ends with protag being turned into a vegetable and raped by a guy.
No. 489158
>>489135Yes I've played them. I did notice there was that one character that references visual novels. Didn't know about the naked guys though kek. I'll probably play it once I'm more free
>>489136I see.
No. 489163
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>>488839I like this retarded edgelord so far.
No. 489226
>>489205Well a big plot point is that the traitor in the cast has a neurological disorder almost exactly like the gut in Saya no Uta. He wants to destroy humanity because he sees everyone as disgusting monsters and is the haraguro type of character. Aotsuki Eito, the guy who talks like a cringy manga protagonist because he doesn't have much experience interacting with people.Aside from that, unlike DR which has only one ending aside from a semi-joke ending in DR1 there's the entire 100 genuine endings thing, more ten routes with ten endings. The characters are very much the stereotypes in DR games, so very over the top.
Dunno what else to say but if you have more specific questions go ahead and ask.
No. 489244
>>489226Thanks nona! That basically answers my question. I was just curious because
Saya no Uta and Sayooshi are so tonally different from anything I've played by Kodaka. Are there any other elements it borrowed from Sayooshi?>100 genuine endings thing, more ten routes with ten endingsHow different are the routes from one another? Is it more girl/romance-specific or are we talking about completely different plotlines for every route? Sorry if this is worded poorly.
Aotsuki Eito has one of the cuter designs for the boys. Shame I probably wouldn't enjoy the VN in practice, but it seems fun for the people who like that type of thing. No. 489254
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>>489244Mainly just Aotsuki having brain problems which made him spend a lot of time in hospital and in a library away from people reading history books eventually becoming even more disgusting with humanity's history of war. There is some rape in some routes, but tbh if you ever trust the guy after the reveal it's your fault. Both games have a protag that sees the world through a denpa protag lense.Different plotlines for each route, with some branching off the same route. A load of male protag on female character romancing but a lot of male characters getting their cocks out (you see everything aside the cock tho…)
I think Aotsuki is still cute when he's revealing his true self imo. I felt really bad for him, in a route he gouges out his own eyes so he rejoin the group and you get a decision to let him back or not. There's a lot for Aotsuki-fags, maybe 6 or so endings i've gotten for him so far. No. 490098
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>>484931The results are out!
As expected, LB's true heroine Kyousuke is #1 again, just in time for his birthday.
Did your favorite character placed or not? Are you happy with his/her result?
I'm happy Kyousuke got first, like always, and that Misuzu was in the top 10.
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>>490098I'm also glad Kyousuke won. But the fact that Kudryavka (shit) is one place above Tomoyo is an actual fucking crime, and I don't even like Clannad that much anymore.
I'm sorry to sperg out like this, but I have an unreasonable hatred for Kudryavka as a character, everything she represents and all the lolicon moids and cutecore 16 year old girls that shill her as the best LB girl.
No. 490346
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>>490182Who did you want to win?
>>490262>I'm sorry to sperg out like this, but I have an unreasonable hatred for Kudryavka as a characterDon't apologize. You're not the only person on the site who feels this way, and her popularity outside of lolicons is baffling.
No. 490401
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>>486798Did anyone else see this kek
No. 490415
>>490401>>490408Spider male prostitute gay conversion otome game???
I don't understand what kind of person's weird fantasy that is, but based and I respect it!
No. 492938
>>492876A classic and the reason why I got into visual novels in the first place. Granted, it was the anime version in a NND Kumikyouku compilation what sparked my curiosity about the anime adaptation, then Key works and visual novels and eroge as a whole.
I was so happy when the english version finally got a release this year.
I know everyone and their mothers have a lot of criticism about Key works (the artstyle, the nakige drama, etc) but they hold a special place in my heart and will always be precious to me.
I still need to finish SubaHibi (got stuck in Jabberwocky and then went off to read other vns) but your vidrel is like 50% of the reason why I started it. I've loved it ever since my first listen and jam to it religiously
No. 492944
>>492938Damn, I really wrote too much…
Now, I know I'm gonna get backlash but Rita's Michi no Saki Sora no Mukou is a song that I really REALLY LOVE since it reminds me of my middle school's summer break. Reading eroge blogs and watching opening videos from Hau Omochikaeri's monthly releases' posts, to find songs who fitted my tastes.
I still listen to those songs nowadays, even if I'll never read most of them since they never got a english translation.
No. 492958
Here's another opening! The VN itself is kind of weird, but I'd highly recommend it to any denpa fans. I'm so surprised it got an official translation because it seems extremely niche. It's kind of similar to Forest in the "I don't know what's going on but I think I'm enjoying it" way. I still don't know exactly what to make of certain parts, and there isn't much discussion online.
>>492938Lovely opening. I've never read AIR, but I love this song.
>they hold a special place in my heart and will always be precious to meI haven't read a lot of their catalogue, but I've enjoyed the ones I've read. One of my first VNs was made by Key, so I'll always have a certain level of fondness for their work, even if I'm not a massive fan.
>I still need to finish SubaHibi (got stuck in Jabberwocky and then went off to read other vns)That's a completely understandable place to stop. Subahibi is very special to me, so I hope you'll finish it one day, but a lot of people really don't like that chapter for understandable reasons. Tomosane is so bland compared to the other protagonists.
>>492944>Damn, I really wrote too much…Not at all! I like this thread because the nonas are so thoughtful. Since this is a VN thread, I think we're all used to reading kek.
>I'll never read most of them since they never got a english translation.I don't know if you're talking generally, but Yosuga no Sora got a fan translation less than a year ago! I don't know if it's still one you'd want to read, but it's an option.
>>492947Amazing opening and art style.
>Sad that Shikkoku no Sharnoth will probably never get a good translation. Sorry if this is a silly question, but is there something wrong with the fan translation? I was considering reading it, and I hadn't heard anything bad about it.
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>>492958>Sorry if this is a silly question, but is there something wrong with the fan translation? I was considering reading it, and I hadn't heard anything bad about it.The quality is readable and the plot is conveyed fine. It's more so the efforts put into the translation. Think of it as the equivalent of speed subs. The prose feels a lot less refined in comparison to Sona nyl. iirc Ixrec had a reputation of outright rewriting lines to be simpler because trying to adapt the poetic/flowery prose was too hard and would take too long or whatever (this might be in regards to Inganock though, which I haven't read).
No. 493152
>>492876You already posted my absolute favorite (final smile also is up there in my favorites)
I’d say other than that I listen to the adelta VN EDs a lot and DR2’s ED.
No. 493168
>>493165Current top 5 is at
1. Ima
2. Kako
3. Eito
4. Kurara
5. Nozomi
No. 493169
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>>493167Samefag because I want to post a picture of her, she's my favorite Subahibi character by far. I know that a lot of people think her route is thinly veiled torture porn to which I wouldn't really disagree but I also don't think it'd be as terrifying as it is without the "ero" elements. As someone who has been deeply suicidal to the point where it caused derealization episodes, I really felt her. How we coped at our worst moments reminds me deeply of myself and I just wanna give her a hug. I should really replay Subahibi though, it's been a while.
No. 493172
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>>493170People hate her? Why? I love most of the characters in the series but Hasaki and especially that one neckbeard reporter were the worst and it's not even close, outside of characters obviously meant to be hated.
No. 493175
>>493172>Why?They think she’s annoying and pretty typical
victim blaming stuff (it’s a galge so I guess it kind of tracks that there’s a lot of those types…)
>that one neckbeard reporter were the worstDon’t forget the gay guy, he was also beyond fucking obnoxious. I hated how the reporter just got massive plot dumps by “being around at the time” it felt like such lazy writing from a game that before that clearly put a lot of effort into keeping its narrative well tied together
the scene with Yuki finding Takuji’s finger prints (aka her own) in the whole room and the rooms being the same but at different angles subtly foreshadowed by the wall shape was so damn well done, I always give props for games where the protagonist tricks the player like that No. 493220
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>>493169I love Zakuro! Takuji is and always will be my number one favorite, but she's easily in second place. She's so necessary for the narrative, and I found her extremely relatable in some ways.
>>493170Aw, it sucks people hate her. She's just a sweet girl, and I swear if
she didn't get fucking raped, scrotes would be fawning over her as the ideal waifu. The only hate for her I've seen has surrounded that element of her character.
>>493170>if you want to hate on a character in subahibi Tomosane and his loli sister are right thereTrue and correct. Tomosane is so boring compared to every other protagonist. I don't hate Jabberwocky as much as some people do, but Tomosane and Hasaki do not help at all.
No. 493367
>>493246I like Kurara’s gap moe, I like bitchy characters to begin with but I find it really cute how she’s a huge pussy deep down also her insults can be pretty entertaining.
As for Nozomi I just find her pretty and I like the way they wrote her grieving the other members of the secondary academy, I kind of wish she was the protagonist instead of Takumi kek (he’s fine but pretty bland and I don’t like his design much) also her healing ability is super OP.
No. 493440
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>>493438MAMIYA if that's somehow not on your radar.
No. 493449
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>>493438I don't know what you have or haven't read, but here are some.
>Hashihime of the Old Book Town- Mystery yaoi game about a mentally ill loser who works at a book store until one day, something very bad happens to a close childhood friend, and the protagonist is left trying to piece together what happened and set it right. Has 18+ content, but I do not think it's moidish. An all-ages version is available. It's one of my all-time favorites and I beg you to give it a shot.>Lkyt- More of a fantasy game, but it has a pretty horror-ish setting. It's also a yaoi game and has plenty of male suffering to spare. It's about a group of soldiers who are fending off the end of the world from demonic creatures. It has a hopeless tone and 18+ content.>MAMIYA- Another nona recommended this already, but I'd already started typing when she posted it. It's a pretty good VN with some confusing elements. It's kind of hard to explain, but it's basically about a group of people who all see this creature called Mamiya and how their lives gradually fall apart. There's one character trying to unravel the mystery of what happened and set things right. It does not have 18+ content but it's fujobait.>The Letter- Pretty standard haunted house story about a group of people who have to try to survive it. Lots of male suffering, but unfortunately, also female suffering. There is no 18+ content, although some stuff is implied. Lower on the list of recs, but I don't see it mentioned often and it may be something you like.>sweet pool- Yaoi game about a guy who starts having some weird shit (literally) happen to his body. It's a horror game, and I liked it. It can be a little gross, but it has an abundance of male suffering. It has 18+ scenes that are pretty necessary to the plot, so don't get the censored version. No. 493451
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>>493443MAMIYA fits your checklist so well, I was half-expecting you to reply that you had already read it kek. If you're grabbing a copy, make sure to get the COMPLETE COLLECTION. MAMIYA isn't considered BL (has a male majority cast and plenty of bait), but the creator's previous work is BL and may also interest you: Lemures Blue's 2AM. You can play it for free:
https://hiragihoux.itch.io/lemures-blues-2-amADELTA's works may also interest you:
https://vndb.org/p4543. Hashihime and Uuultra C have english translations, and Hashihime has a Switch port if you prefer that for whatever reason. I heard Ooe will be translated into english sometime, probably not soon, but I would keep an eye out for it.
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>>493451Seconding Lemures, Kokoroten's stuff is so peak.
No. 494586
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Has anyone read Cross+Channel? What did you think of it? Did you read the fan translation, and if so, was it as bad as people say? Has anyone read the George Henry Shaft document kek? It's one of those VNs that has a certain mystique about it that I find so fascinating, but I'll probably never actually read it because I've heard the English translations are bad, and the Japanese is supposedly extremely challenging. I'm sure it's not as great as people say, but I'd like to know if anyone here thought it lived up to the hype.
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Has anybody here played this? I'm on a nostalgia trip rewatching the anime and rereading the manga and thinking it might be nice to actually experience the VNs one day. Wondering how other ladies liked it.
Additionally, if anybody played it in Japanese, how was the difficulty level? I'm N4 and haven't given any VNs a try yet, would this be too difficult?
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>>488839I'll admit it, I got fujobaited into buying the game. Worth it though because I love premises like this. I'm 78 routes in after almost 200 hours and so far there's only been one or two lame routes, GOTY contender for sure. The only real similarities with DGR is the school and certain character archetypes but it's so so good and stands on its own. Takumi is so much more likeable then the other protagonists it's kind of insane.
And of course Eito. Eito. Oh man. I don't how to speak about him without spoilers but fuck all of the komaeda 2.0 fags he's better, funnier, stronger, less-retarded.
I'd go into depth about the routes but there's so much that is like spoiler heavy due to how things are revealed. I'll just say
2nd half of 2nd Scenario was literally heartwrenching I thought I was going to puke from how hard I cried. But also I'm really glad I did it so late so the character attachment was really strong. No. 494728
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>>494690Eito is a seriously great character. I think he may be my favourite
villain in fiction as a whole, along with
Kohaku (major Tsukihime spoilers!). I liked Komaeda, but I agree that Eito is better than him. I can see how Eito feels like a culmination of
Komaeda, 999's villain and the saya no uta dude, but I think he's enough of his own thing.
Goodbye Eito is a very, very good ending. He was great in it. Blind Eito is both so understandable of him to do, but painful to read nevertheless. I enjoyed getting to see things from his perspective.>I'd go into depth about the routes I'd like to read it if you'd like to nonna! I'm obsessed with hundred line right now.
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>>494728ntayrt but
I genuinely started crying during the goodbye Eito route (kinda disappointed there isn't much blind Eito x Takumi art yet), earlier in the thread I said Ima was my fave but after that and what I consider the true end (farewell route) he got instantly bumped up to my favorite character in the game, sadly I have not gotten the LOVE AND PEACE or yaoi rape route yetI was pretty disappointed by rain code (honestly made me think that Kodaka was never going to do stuff for his female fanbase again) so I'm really glad Kodaka managed to redeem himself with this one and make a great VN.
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>>494728Goodbye Eito was like the catalyst to realizing how good eito was, the way he started realizing he missed them was so bittersweet. Was also slightly hoping we'd get slightly more insight to the orphan futurum kids he found but ig we'll never know. I wasn't expecting his inner dialogue to humanize him so much, the way he couldn't stop thinking about what ifs and how he truly just envied what the other students. Even getting sirei to implant more false memories just to have something to fondly think of before he died was so…ntm you could tell he was scared of dying the entire time And i mentioned before but the last half of 2nd Scenario was so painfully good. I love Takumi Sumino so much, he just wants the best for everyone(usually..)So far the
Good(?)Killing game ending , 2nd scenario, And the
Eva routes have been my favorite, I haven't
unlocked the final mystery route yet though but i can kind of guess where it's going.
I kind of stopped finding the romance routes enjoyable once I realized they weren't giving us a yugamu route…fucked up.>>494754I'm jealous, I've been seeing a Lot of people on twitter liking Ima somehow I haven't seen the route yet… No. 494765
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btw anyone else think that hundred line is meant to take place in the same universe of V3 (albeit in the very distant future) or just me?
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>>494759I just really love siscon characters.
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>>494767Understandable
>the real romance route they should've gave us No. 494775
>>494773Honestly feels like they were trying to filter as many obnoxious tiktok normies as possible kek
>Super long game >Rape and incest>Kodaka keeps putting his vomit fetish in They'll get into it anyway from youtube streams though.
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>>494775kodaka can speak fluent english, I fear he knew what had to be done. And idk darumi
openly calling kamyuhn jailbait/loli will kill a lot of interest people have for her since she's currently the biggest hook for randoms. Incoming "Darumi is a pedophile creep and if you play this game you're a pedophile too!!Either way we'll win in the long run if kodaka promises to update the game due to the success.
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>>494777>kodaka can speak fluent englishYou're thinking of Uchikoshi, Kodaka knows some english but he's not fluent (he's just a westaboo that likes American music+films)
>PicAh, I already see we're having the character tax happen (wish I still had that pic of the prices of Ouma's merch compared to the girls from when V3 came out kek) one thing I'll say for rain code is that even though I didn't like the game it had cute merch so hopefully we can have that for hundred line as well.
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>>494754I can understand that. I still think Shion is the most tragic character in the entire game (I adore Shion), but Eito is probably the second most. Humanity really did just fuck him up for life and offered him no peace or attempt at salvation. They ruined his without a chance of repair. Despite everything he did, it's hard not to feel bad for Eito. I wish we could really see things from his perspective, how exactly he sees and hears the others. Funnily enough the "yaoi rape route" route is actually… one of the best routes for his mental wellbeing imo kek. I haven't finished everything yet, but so far the only things that stops me from saying "Eito did nothing wrong" like some Griffith fans do is him killing Shion and Hiruko. I feel very protective over Shion. Eito was right about almost everything though.Love and peace!
>>494759>the way he started realizing he missed them was so bittersweet
Agreed. Takumi almost making him hesitate but him still ultimately choosing to leave, his interactions with the little girl, how he'd feel irresponsible trying to tell her something he can't know is true or not, him ultimately dying for them… all so peak. For some reason him saying that it wasn't darkness humans feared, but the lack of light got to me as well. I really love perspective switches as a whole, bit off topic but it's one thing I particularly liked about Higurashi, so it was a joy to see things from Eito's perspective like that. You're right it humanises him. I think getting to really read things from someone else's perspective is what leads to true understanding, whether it be from real people or fictional characters. Getting Sirei to implant fake, happy memories into him also made me tear up. He still sees them as hideous in those memories I'm sure, but he still wanted that. Very cute. I really liked the final boss fight of 2nd scenario. Again, I love Shion. Poor poor Shion. I genuinely thought I could at least save Tsubasa so I drove her all the way as far down as I could, but then another Shion appeared kek.I like all those routes too!
Killing game route is very, very good. I didn't expect Yugamu to be such a bro. I also really do like Tsubasa, Eva and Kamyuhn. I hated the romance route honestly. I hate Kurara and Kyoshika and whilst I love Tsubasa, she had a better romance in killing game. I felt like I was being punished for wanting to kiss Hiruko kek.>>494762The main thing I dislike about this artist's style is the tiny pupils, the same face and how the skin is shaded.
Funnily enough the same face kind of works in hundred line because everyone's related>>494767Based
>>494772Don't forget Takumi x Eva too. I'm glad basically everything is actually incest though so no one can get too on my case for shipping the twins.>>494773Yeah, that was fucked up of Takumi. That route was so shit for Nozomi.>>494775>vomit fetishIt's weird, that's how it came across to me at first too but other times it's treated pretty respectfully and sympathetic.
>>494777Wtf why are those in your picrel so expensive? Speaking of I really need to get the exact Kako acrylic stand Ima has in reality.
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>>494779ah mb, i get them mixed up pretty often.
And yeah it's pretty bad but those are the pre-order ones so maybe the next wave of merch won't be too expensive to grab. I like Eito but not enough to drop $160 on a badge of him lol. I've always wondered why did raincode do so bad? Was it advetising? I don't remember seeing a single ad for it until recently.
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>>494782>I like Eito but not enough to drop $160 on a badge of him lolI'm gonna wait till they do merch with original designs, I'm not a fan of merch with stock asset art.
Rain code did well enough in sales, the game just sucks so it never ended up gaining a fandom outside of a couple of waifufags who moved on within a few months.
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>>494783Doesn't help that they shilled Shinigami so hard since they thought she was going to be their new Junko but no one really liked (for reference her nendo has less than 150 owners on MFC while her scale figure only has like 100)
I'm assuming when they start putting out merchandise for hundred line they're going to mostly shill Nozomi and Darumi because the figure industry hates making male characters kek.
No. 494914
>>494586Yes, I have. The translation is bad and the jp version is definitely the way to go. It lived up to the hype at least for me personally. The message would most likely resonate with a lot of young people today if they were able to read it, as it's about the difficulty in human connections, mental illness, isolation, loneliness, struggles to fit into society, the hedgehog's dilemma, and so on. I haven't read any other visual novel that captured those feelings as well as it did, and some of the monologues from it have really stuck with me. It's a work that people who have felt like outcasts in society will most likely deeply resonate with. Or anyone who's ever struggled with conforming to societal standards and like your mental illness got in the way of forming real connections with others. It goes in depth on what connection even is and if it's actually achievable for people who feel too fundamentally broken for it. I feel like if it actually had a good translation every e-girl would use images from it just as much as they do for Subahibi, and Miki would be their new Kimika, kek.
That said, just like Subahibi it has "
problematic" aspects to it and I'd argue most people here wouldn't be able to look past them, with the biggest one being the fact that the main character is severely mentally ill and a huge pervert, which means he does some pretty questionable things at times. He's portrayed to be a flawed individual and the point of the game is to explore mental illness and his issues in connecting to the other characters, but his actions can be pretty hard to stomach at times so I wouldn't blame anyone if they couldn't deal with that and dropped it fairly early on. You have to be the type of person that can deal with that type of thing in your media to enjoy it, even if it doesn't actually have content as extreme in the H scenes as some other games (I would say Subahibi is actually worse in that regard).
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Stuff like this will never not be funny to me
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>>494985>Kako and Ima same price All is good in the world. Honestly twin characters must be pretty profitable merch wise since most people will probably buy them together.
>>494988I predict Gaku will be the NLOG magnet of hundred line. I was incredibly surprised to see that he has a decent number of female fans.
>>494991I wish Moko was better. Sakura was my favourite DR1 character. I think she had enough depth to her beyond being strong and her face didn't look stupid compared to her body like Moko's does. Moko's whole personality is just "I like wrestling, skincare and I'm nice to girls! Teehee don't flirt with me you silly boys". Hundred Line would be so much better if Kodaka didn't have characters that mostly just revolve around their gimmick. He really likes over-repeating jokes and it's more obvious in HL because it's the longest thing he's wrote. I don't need yet another unfunny joke of Kurara accusing Kyoshika of being perverted with her sword for the 50th time.
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>>494983What kinds of VNs do you like? Planetarian, Raging Loop, the Ace Attorney trilogy, and Amnesia: Memories are available on mobile! I liked all of them, but it's hard to say if you would without knowing what kinds of stories you like.
>>494858God, same. Eito sems like an entertaining character, and it sounds fun, but I can't get a feel for how the mystery story at all meshes with the gameplay. The length is also a little intimidating because I still don't know what it's even about and I don't want to be trapped in an 80 hour VN I end up not liking kek.