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No. 191785
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I just recently decided to read the Higurashi visual novels starting with the very first one with the original sprites. A lot of ppl think they're ugly but I find them super charming and kinda uncanny in a good way. I'm on my first hour of game-play, so far is super chilling but hopefully it'll get creepy soon.
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Got this for switch and played through the main game. The story was such an incredible ride. Every time I thought I figured the story out or it was nearing the end, they threw something else at me. Even with the good ending this got me very emotional. Beautiful art too.
Currently working on the prequel game and though it's not quite as good I'm still enjoying it.
No. 191894
>>191876pirate that shit girl.
>https://nyaa.si/view/1181305also, on the trans stuff: i wouldn't really call it that. it's a case of a child genius having a split personality, and that split personality just so happens to be a girl. been a solid two years since i read through ciconia but i don't recall any angst over dysphoria or the character's body not matching up with their mental state or whatever.
in the end i don't know you, so i can't tell you if it's worth reading through or not, but i personally enjoyed it quite a bit.
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Our Life: Beginnings & Always.
It's so heart warming and charming. Wish Cove was realexcept his eyebrows
No. 191934
>>191923We need an otome game thread imo
I was going to make one and use an Angelique 1 pic for the OP but I forgot
No. 191935
>>191785Kudos to you anon for playing with OG sprites, they were a bit too much for me, so I went for the console ones. I recommend at least getting the voice patch, really enhances the experience… once you get past Satoko's voice. Overall the fan patches at 07th-Mod are superb, let you freely switch between sprites, music etc - check it out if you haven't.
I enjoyed the Higurashi series very much, to me it's one of the best this medium has to offer. It's not perfect, the slice of life elements were tedious to get through at times, but the mystery is nicely crafted and even knowing the plot it was a very enjoyable read.
Tbh I prefer it over Umineko, which seems to be the more like one in the west.
No. 191972
>>191923Agreed, this was a fun one. I'm unpatiently waiting to be able to romance
and bully the smug rich guy.
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saw this being promoted on twitter. call me a weab if you must but this kind of shit exemplifies why i avoid western otome. the art is usually shit (while eastern vns do have mainstream animu style, they at least employ technical skill) what gets me is that indie devs love catering to troons. yes i am still heartbroken that the hot vampire guy from dream daddy was a tif sorry to sperg. if any of you know of actual decent western otome please let me know.
No. 194360
>>194348bump
yeah, it looks like a below standard """ironic visual""" that's been slowly becoming irrelevant. i feel like i've seen these character archetypes in the western comic/art/game sphere like a billion fuckin' times.
No. 194377
>>193027I loved 999 but havent played the sequel yet. I kept seeing people saying that VLR is good but ZTD is shit on /v/, and it's not like I trust these people for everything but I've been told more about the development for both games and it makes sense. Apparently ZTD's original script was completely redone because the writer wanted more plot twists for the sake of it. 999 is an excellent self contained story so I don't want to have it ruined with bad sequels.
>>194348Looks like shit to me.
>>194360 is right, looks like an "ironic dating sim" made for people who would find a normal, well-written and straight-forward visual novel "cringe" and who thought the KFC visual novel was innovative. No thanks.
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>>194348I was absolutely obsessed with Cinderella Phenomenon in high school. It has
a crossdressing character, but it's plot relevant
and nothing tranny pandering. When I was even younger, I also loved Autumns Journey. Both are free, CinPhen you can find on Steam while AJ is to be found on lemmasoft forums.
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>>194348>if any of you know of actual decent western otome please let me know.I don't know why western dating sims get shit on so much. When they're catering to freaks like this I can understand, but otome have just as many retarded tropes you have to wade through. The good western ones generally incorporate much more customization and choice-centric gameplay than otome (you can still have your own personality rather than one catered to your love interest) with more outspoken heroines. Here are some I've enjoyed. Some of them have minor queerio aspects like being able to choose pronouns but nothing over the top.
>The Arcana: A Mystic Romance>The Confines of the Crown>Ambition: A Minuet in Power >Aloners (the Wilder stories from this dev are also good)>Errant Kingdom (not complete but pretty far along/their game When the Night Comes is finished though)>Demonheart>Red Embrace: Hollywood>Our Life: Beginnings & Always>Ebon Light No. 194493
>>194487Sonnet009 is such a great writer! It was so nice to have a comprehensive focus on a single relationship with a number of different ways to approach it. Trash is a sweetheart and felt like a real person.
>my choices are not just [be uwu submissive to him] or [be a rude bitch for no reason]Kek exactly. I crave more nuance then nice/mean, I want to be able to gently tease my love interest, stand against his decisions sometimes and still be respected, have him show interest in my character rather than just infodumping his tragic backstory. The majority of these games actually allow this rather than the player just being railroaded into a single "true" path.
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>>194348I can ignore the fact the elf is a they/them, but please tell me the demon Stacy and goblin guy are cis. Please let me have nice things.
Btw, as anyone ever heard of or played Signed, Sealed, Delivered with a Kiss? I bought it and regret it. The gist is that you raise the interest to suit your tastes, but I quit early in because the mc was so hateful. I can understand being a bit prickly given the situation that a android won't leave you alone, but I understand why this bitch is friendless. She's just angry, harsh,
toxic and unforgiving. That's not even the worst part though: The narrative tries to explain why mc is the way that she is because she had cold parents and felt lonely or whatever. Also, she's some super edgy hacker or whatever idfk. all I remember is that she had no reason to be the way she was and was just a person meant to be forever alone. She was
cruel to the android who was literally basically an infant and could only depend on her. I just don't get how you can make a dating sim and make the mc do everything in her power to be as unlovable as possible and actually prevent the romance part of the whole game. I walked away from this game wondering why the fuck they made it.
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This seems to be an unpopular opinion because everytime people mention her they do it to hate on her writing but I am a genuine fan of Sakurai. I read all the translated VNs of her Steampunk series, especially Sekien no Inganock is one of my favorite VNs out there. Love the art the VNs have, the colors and designs and her writing style is weird but I always liked it for feeling so, dunno, fairytale-like? I think it gives it a distinctive style.
I also love Hoshizora Meteor VNs (Forest, Fate/Hollow Ataraxia, Mahoutsukai no Yoru). They are both Type-Moon related lol
But in general I read all kinds of VNs besides those that bore me (generic harem or SoL VNs). Like so many others I started with short VNs, namely Narcissu and Saya no Uta (Nitro+ is almost always good, including Chiral).
A short VN I absolutely recommend is "True Remembrance"! The artstyle looks amateurish, but I got used to it fast and the story is absolute top. Avoid it if you aren't into bittersweet stories though.
I am also a huge fan of Umineko and other Ryukishi stuff. Reading Uminenko "live" and discussing the newest part to hell and back was one of the most entertaining things I experienced. The OST was one of the best I heard as well and I cannot thank R07 enough for this series and I am eager to see his future projects.
>>256751I don't believe it fully, but I believe that he influenced him a lot. I think Ryukishi thought up the stories and like two genuinely close friends that fanboy or fangirl like crazy they discussed it together and that gives you a LOT of input.
I don't mean monologues and your friend nodding, but a friend that IS fan of what you are fan of and a fan of you. Just talking with them can be incredibly productive and this is what Ryukishi is missing now. Sadly.
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I just binged AI the somnium files and really loved, it and have been playing Nirvana Initiative, but I’m starting to get to my limit with the authors treatment of the female characters. It wasn’t good in AITSF but hearing the sex jokes from a big busty brown dominatrix character (I love Tama otherwise but hate this aspect of her character) and the specific portrayal of a grown man creeping on a high school girl in this one is really irritating me. I’m gonna try to finish it, I only just started the Mizuki route, but I have a strong feeling I won’t like it as much.
No. 257757
>>191808>>191823I didn't know what anyone thought about it, i checked it out because i found it on steam and the art was really pretty
I loved it too, i didn't know what to expect but i wasn't let down, didn't really like the backgrounds because they had a lot of contrast with the character art
No. 257759
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i was always fascinated with Saya No Uta, i like almost everything about it because it feels very disturbing but i despise all the loli/sexual aspects of it
was it really necessary? why couldn't it be just a creepy and disturbing VN without the forced explicit stuff, it doesn't make it any better
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>>257759Because gen urobuchi is a major creep and pedo, can't believe that a lot of people still like Madoka knowing he also wrote Saya no Uta, thought he would've been cancelled by the twitter crowd at this point.
Other than that, I do agree with you. Actually my favorite parts were definitely when fuminori and saya weren't present at all. I swear ryoko could've been one of my favorite female characters, if only she wasn't in this lolishit game. Wish I never played it at all especially since I was underaged when I did and it made me sick when I was reading it. Even more so when scrotes only love this game because of the romantic pedo stuff.
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>>257747>specific portrayal of a grown man creeping on a high school girlOh no, not this again… I haven't been able buy AiNi yet, but played the first game some time ago and while the story was lackluster for the most part imo (compared to some of other games Uchikoshi has written at least), the characters were so fun it glued me to the console. I was pretty excited for the sequel, I'm sad he is back on that bullshit, it was already bad on VLR
specially after Sigma's plot twist and there was some in the original AITSF, but since the protagonist was a girl this time around I thought that would be gone for the most part. Never underestimate a man who thinks with his dick I guess….
I fell in love with Tama's design when she was revealed and hope she isn't too bad in-game. I expected her to be the carrier of horny jokes but I don't find them as irritating if it's a female character saying them, so I guess I will stand her. I haven't bought a single DLC in my life, but I'm even considering buying the kimono one because she and Aiba look too adorable with them on.
No. 257875
>>257759I loved SnU but I never understood why so many people think that little girls that are actually evil trope was shocking and creepy. Not talking about loli but in general, it's a popular trope in western horror too and it NEVER worked for me.
I think it would have been way better if Saya was some sickly looking, mysterious and pale adult woman with an ephemeral beauty that makes he feel ghostlike and unreal which she actually is. It works so much better when you realise she is actually a horrible eldritch abomination in that case, moe lolis are neither unworldly nor genuinely pretty so they feel shoved in to attract otaku.
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Last Legacy is a defunct VN that had so much potential to be amazing, I still have so much love for it someone please mourn with me. The art & writing team jumped ship once their contracts were up because the company running the show was dogshit, then the company went under, and last I checked from what I understand another company bought the game but hasn't updated it in a year. RIP
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anyone else here who played/are playing slow damage? I just cleared the game the other day.
No. 261427
>>261420Umineko (Higurashi's sister game) is pretty great, though not really all that horror oriented to me (it's more focused on murder mystery stuff over being scary).
Totono is pretty great if you can get past the scrote shit in it.
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Damn I was looking up the reading time for Aoi Shiro because I wanted to recommend someone this VN since it's one of the best I have read and now I coincidentally see that it's not only getting a remaster and official English release, Akai Ito, an older VN by the same team, is getting the same treatment.
The latter was never translated afaik so this is fucking awesome, I always wanted to read this.
https://www.gematsu.com/2022/09/akai-ito-aoi-shiro-hd-remaster-announced-for-switch-pcI would recommend Aoi Shiro to everybody that likes yuri, supernatural things and Japanese mythology. I cannot really describe it, it's not exactly horror, but not far from it either. The atmosphere it had was cool, I was interested finding more hints that explained the characters and mysteries and the title is fitting because most of it takes place in the night, so many scenes have this blue hue that made it special.
Think it was also the only VN with I think 40 and more different bad endings where you had to play every one of them to understand 100% of the story. I like it when bad ends aren't shitty 5 minute scenes without CGI but story relevant.
No. 261447
>>191808Is it true that this game has a lot of troon shit in it? It's hard to get a clear answer without outing myself as a
terf given how dense it seems to be and how prone to latching onto shit troons are.
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This shit was great, despite loli fanservice and ass-poor translation. I highly recommend. Plus that Nice Boat at the end.
No. 276457
>>276425You're telling me this
isn't a lolicon porn game?
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Learning japanese just to play the rance series rn, specifically the 3rd one since i finished the first two and i'm obsessed with it, even though it's very scrotey.
>>257759The loli shit ruined saya entirely, gen urobuchi is a talentless pedo coomer and saya was his only work with potential so it's a shame it was ruined with that ugly fucking kid.
>>261420Subahibi is a good psychological horror vn, but i recommend with caution. It's one of the most disturbing things i've played but there are very gratutious amounts of rape (only two are story relevant though) and other fetish shit which is frustrating because it nails down the horror parts so well but there's so much rape/scrotery that you can't just avoid it. Sayooshi too, but same warning applies.
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>>276437It's on Steam, anon. There is 0 sex in it.
>>276449You haven't even read it, yet you have the gall to shit on it…to feel self-righteous, I guess?
>>276457>>276457It isn't:
>https://vndb.org/v16714 No. 276475
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>>276427It does have lolifag pandering, sadly, but it's not a major distraction.
The plot is two-tier - from the point of view of an adult, and from the point of view of a little girl (you can only unlock the second point of view after you've finished the first).
It's 1998 and a guy from Taiwan moves to Indonesia and starts living with a friend and his daughter. Lots of crappily-translated brooding about religion, society, cultural differences, shitting on Chicoms follows. Household drama and school shenanigans ensue. Then the 1998 riots happen and shit hits the fan. The Nice Boat is both literal and metaphorical.
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>>276492You think VNs are normal? Even Higurashi has loli pandering. But I guess it's fine, because normalfags have 'sanctified' it and given their seal of approval, hence it's okay and not creepy at all to like it? How can you be such a sheep?
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>>276509>>276507If you hate the medium so much, what are you even doing in this thread? Looking for non-
problematic, Western VNs with 'representation' and 'healthy' relationships?
No. 276661
>>276517Nice try but visual novels are not all porn or pedo bait. The genre evolved through
both otaku trash and mystery/horror games with "normie" appeal, but most importantly the latter. Hating the degenerate otaku incel side of the genre is not the same as hating the medium itself. That's like saying we hate online video sharing because we hate porn sites specifically. Eroge ≠ visual novel, plus non-eroge VNs didn't suddenly stop being made as soon as porn became popular within the genre, which is something even absolute VN beginners should know. And it's an objective fact that most anime-style visual novels such as Saya no Uta would be infinitely better without all the rape, guro, pedophilia and general scrote degeneracy (only a porn addict would think it adds anything of value).
Also, the fact that the vast majority of VNs are a product of horny Japanese incels being pedos and potential rapists doesn't mean shit; at least 90% of all VNs are shit-quality garbage, whether they try to hide it behind a pretentious plot or not. Besides, the only reasons porn VNs are so common is because the average adult moid who was a computer geek and a gamer in the early days of VNs was also a deviant anime fan, and because scrotes always make porn versions of everything (as you may know, VNs were not the only genre of eroge in the PC-88 days, since there were a lot of low-effort puzzle and card games of that kind as well).
There
are good VNs, both from Japan and other countries, that don't have that kind of content, and we're here to discuss those mainly. You just haven't heard about many of them because ironically you only prefer a certain kind of VN that is favored by insufferable weeb porn addicts and never step out of your comfort zone while dismissing anything that doesn't appeal to you specifically.
Gatekeeping visual novels from "normies" is pretty retarded when there are several VNs that have become popular in Japan with the exact same kind of crowd you hate, but I guess since that crowd is Japanese, you don't mind since you're a delusional megaweeb and think Japanese people are muh master race who have a right to enjoy things unlike those icky Westerners (who of course are all SJWs for not wanting to see disgusting and unnecessary porn, misogyny and pedophilia in the story they're reading). You know, maybe the problem isn't that everyone else are normie prudes and SJWs who would never "get it", maybe the problem is that you're sick in the head and think that shit is not only ok, but necessary and good. You insist so much on being such an obnoxious and pedantic know-nothing, that everyone can see you're only gatekeeping obscure and overrated hobbies on an anonymous imageboard this hard because it's the only way for you to feel good about yourself, and/or feel like you're "one of the boys at 4chan" (that is, if you aren't a moid yourself). You also reek of pathetic /a/ newfag trying to fit in; I'm sorry but they'll never fuck you. You're a certified low IQ autist and should go back to 4scrote, or maybe go back to the VNDB forums to cry about them stupid normie femoids not getting the ~deep~ philosophical messages in your favorite loli rape "masterpiece".
Vid related, it's about the history of visual novels. Maybe you should watch it before trying to gatekeep something you know nothing about.
(Sage because I don't wanna bump with a rant)
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>>276521>nobody normal reads visual novels periodWhy are you in this thread again? To shit on freak media freak people enjoy? Find a better use of your time.
>>276600>Everything I Hate Is Loli Pr0n!Do you have a disorder that makes you overreact to anything that you find
triggering? I'm not even going into your attempts at backseat-moderating as if this thread was the last accessible page on the internet.
>>276661>and we're here to discuss those mainly.Who gave you the right to decide what should or shouldn't be discussed in this thread?
>Gatekeeping visual novels from "normies"It's the opposite. You're the one limiting VN discussion to what you personally find acceptable. That's also gatekeeping.
>You know, maybe the problem isn't that everyone else are normie prudes and SJWs who would never "get it", maybe the problem is that you're sick in the head and think that shit is not only ok, but necessary and good. You insist so much on being such an obnoxious and pedantic know-nothing, that everyone can see you're only gatekeeping obscure and overrated hobbies on an anonymous imageboard this hard because it's the only way for you to feel good about yourself, and/or feel like you're "one of the boys at 4chan" (that is, if you aren't a moid yourself). You also reek of pathetic /a/ newfag trying to fit in; I'm sorry but they'll never fuck you. You're a certified low IQ autist and should go back to 4scrote, or maybe go back to the VNDB forums to cry about them stupid normie femoids not getting the ~deep~ philosophical messages in your favorite loli rape "masterpiece".Are you ok in the head? This is some astronomic projection. And again the topic is an indie game that doesn't even have any romance or sex in it.
Please take your meds ASAP.
No. 276961
>>276943>not wanting to talk about my loli trash is also gatekeeping because wahhhh I wanna talk about itI find it hilarious that this autist wants to gatekeep and turn this place into a lolifag circlejerk but also complains about
our own gatekeeping that we specifically do (not just in this thread but on the whole site) to keep disgusting newfag creeps like him out.
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Any nonnas play the demo? If so what did you think of it
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any nonnies know of subarashiki hibi? I read it a few years ago then decided to re-read out of nostalgia, it’s definitely not for everyone and the fanbase consists of 14-16 year old girls who would post themselves on /r9k/ for attention
No. 285717
>>285678NTA but how is it?
>>285712I have not read it but I'm so curious because it's infamous for pseudointellectual and edgy to hilarious levels.
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>>285712I fucking LOOOOOVE subahibi, my favorite vn ever actually. That also made me wonder why subahibi attracts those kind of people kek, especially since those people tend to be TIFs who are usually sjws, must be the same phenomena as south park fans.
No. 292861
>>256751Amazingly late to this but i must be the other BT tinfoil believer in this whole website kek. I wish i opened this thread before.
Twittertards will say that theory is overreaching but back in the day if you got deeply enough into umineko to follow the interviews and kept up with what was going on with 07th expansion you'd notice how very upset ryukishi was at the absence of that guy. Past ep6 he would constantly reference the absence of someone that left and yada yada plus him dedicating ep8 to "his beloved Beatrice" lmao you can't make this shit up. Plus the obvious quality drop in his works it's the most obvious hint that some big change happened within his team lmao.
That said, im gonna cut Ryu some slack and say i don't believe BT was his ghostwriter but more like a co-writer. Honestly I personally believe many of the answers to the umineko mystery are gone with him and that Ryu doesnt know all of them and that's why the official answer at times feels like a piece of fanfiction plus the fact he seemed to have no idea of how to properly end umineko by EP8 and left things in the open for so long… But that's just my opinion of course!
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https://vndb.org/v13871Was browsing vndb earlier and stumbled upon this, why the fuck this disgusting ass “game” is even allowed to exist is beyond me, seeing that it was created by people on the German equivalent of 4chan isn’t shocking in the slightest. Hope the creators get lynched.
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Any good Yumejo games with H-scenes? Looking through steam because I wanna get a new VN but can't find anything that quite fits my taste.
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Can you tell me how have the sexual content is in this one? I'm boycotting Steam (it has the clean version), so my only option is the MG shop where the game is uncensored (I think?). Is it just a single short scene that can be easily skipped?
No. 364716
>>359486Late but the version on MangaGamer contains the Refrain edition, which is the one sold on Steam, as well as the original. So, if you're trying to avoid that kind of content altogether, you can just choose to play Refrain. From my understanding, buying it off of MG gets you both.
>>362288Aw, what was so bad about Sayooshi? I haven't read it, but everything I've seen has been so positive.
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>>364716Not that person and old post but Sayooshi is filled with horrible torture porn, it's supposed to be this study of the main character's psyche (he's a mentally ill teacher) but spends so much time on the edgy teenage girl rape scenes it kind of takes away from what it was trying to do. It goes into the girls and has decent writing, but at the same time it feels overly edgy and graphic, especially on the twintail girl's route. It's mostly praised by people who haven't even read it (or read a machine translated version of it since there's no official tl as far as I know) and are drawn in by the denpa aesthetic which is admittedly pretty cool like picrel since that's trendy nowadays with edgy egirls.
No. 369844
>>369833I'm actually the anon who asked about it, and I appreciate that you took the time to type out a reply, even if my post is old. I really like the denpa genre, and reading Sayooshi has been a goal of mine. This is a little disappointing to hear, but I guess it's not wholly unexpected. I was drawn in by the art style, genre, and high praise (and, you know, the fact that it's considered one of the 'big three' denpa games), but I guess it's one of those VNs that will receive a bunch of negative feedback if it ever gets an official TL for being overrated. I'm still interested in it because of the influence it had on the genre, but I understand it's probably not as great as I built it up in my head to be.
>there's no official tl as far as I knowYou are correct; there isn't. You probably already know about this, but there was a guy who tried to make a fan translation a couple of years ago, but he got so much negative feedback for its quality that he deleted it from the internet shortly after the patch released. I'm now wondering how bad the TL actually was (I never read it), and how much of the 'poor quality' was due to the VN's inherent flaws. It could be either because I didn't keep up with the discussions about it.
>>369843I was trying to go into Sayooshi completely blind whenever I was able to read it, so I'm completely unaware of what the twist is. I'm usually good at guessing twists, though, so that's also not promising kek.
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>>369833Yeah I wasn't a fan either, I love psychological horror when it actually has a point but Sayooshi is just a bunch of rape and then
lol actually he was just in a mental hospital and fucking around with inanimate objects/animals (except for angel girl) the whole time, the game having every ending be the same really added to the 'this is pointless and just here for a bunch of boring rape scenes' to me, it's not even like they're particularly disturbing they're just boring as fuck, the only real point of discussion comes from 'did Hitomi actually stick his dick in a brain and a crow or- No. 369864
>>369845>>369846Original anon who posted about sayooshi, I'm reading subahibi right now (in the middle of looking glass insects) and I absolutely adore it! The scenes of Mamiya screaming in particular send huge chills down my spine
the scene with the teacher was a bit much for me though, one of those times in a VN where I actually had to sit for a second to recover from how disturbed I was lol, it definitely succeeded in freaking me out though which was really fantastic on the writer's part It's a really fun game to think and theorize about and I can hardly put it down hahaha!
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>>369844I was worried it'd be weird to reply to something old but glad it was useful. If you like denpa and that type of aesthetic, you could still see for yourself someday, since you might like it more than me. I actually didn't know that about the tl but it doesn't surprise me. It was probably more due to the tl quality since a lot of those amateur tls can be pretty awful. I learned japanese partially so I wouldn't have to deal with that anymore
>>369863Yeah that's exactly how I felt lol. Nice fanart though.
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>>369864It's great you're enjoying it! Yeah, the
teacher scene might be the only time in a VN where I've felt viscerally uncomfortable with something. Generally, I'm just not fazed by stuff, but that one got to me for some reason. It's really a great VN, so I hope you enjoy it until the end! Inventions was my favorite chapter, but I think there are interesting elements in all of them.
>>370051I'll definitely give it a try one day, whether if it gets a good TL or if I'm ever able to read it in its original form. I'm usually able to find positives in anything I read, whether books or VNs. If anything, it was good for me to be given realistic expectations.
>>370055There was a little bit of controversy when it released due to them changing the original narration from 3rd to 1st person. I also noticed that one of the translators has, across multiple games, used the phrase, "tongues battling for dominance," which I don't love.
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I finished the first chapter (episode?) of Higurashi a while ago, and was surprised by how much I enjoyed it. Unfortunately, someone ruined for me that they're apparently in a time loop, Rika is aware of the loop, and Mion has an evil twin or something? I'm a little disappointed by both of these revelations, partially because I hate having twists spoiled for me and also because they sound absolutely ridiculous out of context. Has anyone finished Higurashi, and is it worth continuing? I like Higurashi's character writing, the rural setting, and the horror elements. I even find the goofy sprites with their misshapen hands endearing, but I don't know if it's worth trudging through something 1 million words long when I know as much as I do, especially when it sound kind of dumb. For anyone who's played it, how badly has this been ruined for me, and how stupid does it get later?
No. 370356
>>370307>Has anyone finished Higurashi, and is it worth continuing?Yes
I like it better with the PS3 patch though because the sprites are better and there’s CGs+voice acting
No. 370522
>>370307I first read Higurashi a few years ago and I was surprised at how much I enjoyed it as well.
I've since read all of the main series' visual novels and IMO they're worth the read even if you know some spoilers
since the first three games get explained in the games after anyways and TBH knowing some things beforehand probably makes the stories less confusing.I went into the first game thinking it'd just be edgy and fanservice-y with no substance (I was in my early twenties and wasn't fond of typical teen anime anymore) but genuinely started liking the characters and got successfully unnerved by a few of the scenes lol.
It does drag on at parts though, I think it took me around 15 hours to read through each game, but that might be cuz I'm a slow reader.
I won't argue that some of the plot points are dumb either, I just became so endeared to the characters and story after like 40 hours of reading that I didn't care anymore when they happened.
You should check the 07th-Mod if you don't want to play the vanilla game, it adds options for voice acting, cutscene art, multiple sprites, etc.
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>>369864On Jabberwocky
I really really really hate Mamiya’s little sister and I’m sad she doesn’t die (at least to my knowledge) and I’m glad her doll got torn up in front of her. How dare she want to deprave me the reader of Mamiya kun,little incest bitch. Doesn’t help that I’m not enjoying this chapter as much as the others, Yuuki is pretty boring and I don’t like how much they changed Yuki’s personality from the previous chapters, she had more bite and hated men before… No. 371019
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>>370779Why care about any other character in Subahibi when Takuji exists?
I didn't care for Tomosane or the shitty little sister, either kek. There's a very clear 'best' ending from my perspective, and it's the best because they're involved in it the least. I personally found Tomosane to be one of the weakest of the POV characters, and I would've preferred if the girls weren't all falling over themselves for him when he's so boring. I don't know what point you're at in the story, so approach this next spoiler with caution, but
the Yuki in that chapter is different from the Yuki in Jabberwocky. I forget when this is explained, though. No. 371101
>>371061NAYRT but it's very funny to me that
incest is where the people you recommend it to draw the line and not all the other insane shit that also goes on in Subahibi. Like, yeah, that's bad, but I can think of several other things listed on VNDB that also initially scared me off of playing.
The tag would probably still be present, even without the stupid stuff with Hasaki because of the teacher, though.>Tsui no SoraVery much agree. I really hope they see it through to the end. I know there have been failed attempts at a Tsui no Sora TL in the past, which makes me a little nervous. I saw where Kusarihime, Umi kara Kuru Mono, and Shizuku are also getting fan translations, which are supposed to be well-liked denpa games. No clue on the VNs' actual quality, but I'm hopeful.
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>>371019Real. Just finished all the endings
and I just stand by Kimika's ending with Mamiya kun as the canon one, the final ending with Ayana wasn't bad (definitely the best thing post Jabberwocky) but it didn't have nearly enough time to flesh it out, they'll spend hours on the shitty siscon but not Ayana huh? [spoiler]
>>371061
[spoiler] The game really should have just ended after looking glass insect, it gives Zakuro's backstory and a nice 'what if' scenario for her and Kimika to be happy together. I think the twist just felt really forced and like it was only there because they realized it would have been really fucked up if everyone was actively wishing for Mamiya Takuji to die and for Yuki and Tomosane to take his place. Despite their attempts to make Tomosane the 'likable' one he always just came off as a shitty self insert siscon and Takuji actually came off as far more sympathetic to meStill rate it an 8/10 but I would have rated it a 10/10 if it wasn't for the stuff after looking glass insects.
>I heard Tsui no Sora is getting a translation, so I'm interested to see what the "original" Subahibi is like compared to the one we got years later.Same, seems like it should be done fairly soon and I've heard it's majority schizo fun so it's possible I'll end up rating it higher than Subahibi kek.
>>371101NTA
the issue for me isn't that it's incest, the issue is that the characters are god awful and actively make the plot worse, spending several hours with the okama and the pedophile and Yuki turning into a huge bimbo doesn't help No. 371113
>>371101It's a bit like (sorry to bring up this meme game) The Coffin of Andy and Leyley in that respect and that game even lampshaded the fact that
there's murder, cannibalism, satanic cults etc and yet it's the incest that upsets people the most.I agree that
there's much more disturbing content in Subahibi than the incest, the painful scenes with the teacher, the hedge clipper scene, short bestiality scene, gay rape, the fucking desk, the entire End Sky mass suicide, Takuji's actual schizophrenia and pretty much everything with Zakuro. Actually, I was surprised how decently Looking Glass Insects was written, apparently the writer had researched accounts of girls getting bullied and it kinda hit home to me a lot. Similarly with Takuji's mental illness, the way his crippling social anxiety leads to him being consumed by all kinds of delusions. The scene where he's being chased by weird anxiety demons chanting Lovecraftian shit jumpscared the fuck out of me.As for the TL, it's always a crapshoot whether a fan TL ever finishes. People used to joke about Gore Screaming Show being cursed due to having so many failed fan TLs and it was a surprise that JAST licensed it a few years back. There's so many old denpa or denpa-esque games that probably never will get official or fan TLs, like Jisatsu no Tame no 101 no Houhou. I need my schizo VN fix.
>>371108I'm glad you agree that the latter routes don't really add much aside from making things more convoluted. The ending songs for
Looking Glass Insects and Takuji's Kimika ending are the best vocal songs too imo.
No. 371123
>>371108AYRT and yes, objectively correct takes all around. I rated it a little higher than you did, but I agree with everything you said, including the criticisms. For me, my enjoyment of the first half
as well as the ending with Ayana outweighed the flaws, but I can understand the latter chapters harming your enjoyment. Takuji is the best character and anyone who disagrees can fight me kek. I personally hated
Tomosane because he felt like a shitty, generic hero character, and I despise that. Like, in a game where everyone else was so flawed, he was such an obvious self-insert and unambiguously portrayed as the "good guy." The fact that he wasn't voice acted in original releases only makes it more obvious. Also, I feel like Tomosane being the 'original personality' was an excuse to make it okay for Tomosane to 'take back his original body,' which you alluded to. Still, Takuji is ENTIRELY UNAWARE of any of this multiple personality business, so it's still fucked up regardless. The Kimika Ending is the best ending, although the next chapter is worth going through for the Zakuro/Takuji parallels in Insects (I have ranted to people about this in real life and will refrain from doing so here, but there is so much symbolism and their stories serve as great contrasts to one another).>>371113Also AYRT and I agree! I didn't mean to sound like I thought the
teacher scene and the stuff with Hasaki was the same tonally, just that it would look the same from an outsider's perspective looking at the tags alone. I think the Andy and Leyley comparison is apt; there is a difference between disturbing content and content that is 'disturbing' but intended to excite the viewer.
>gay rapeIt's very funny to see men get filtered by this one, though.
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>>371123I wish I could find the one meme of the guy jumping out a window and running away with tags from subahibi on it, with the final one being "okama support character", but it's buried in another HDD.
If anything, the siscon stuff was boring compared to the mental illness/denpa aspects of the previous routes. Jabberwocky really felt tacked onto the rest of the game.I really wish people didn't instantly check out the tags for VNs, even if spoilers are turned off. With games like subahibi, it ruins the experience if you don't go in blind.
>>371126I agree with you on Tomosane being irritating and not relatable compared to Takuji. I wonder if SCA-JI was trying to make some commentary on traumatised coomer otaku being evil or some shit, to spite the coomer otaku who play eroge like subahibi? It's obnoxious how much the game sucks off Tomosane when he's a fucking asshole like you said.
Kimika was too good for that world… Both of her endings make me tear up every single time…To the nonna that just finished subahibi, what do you plan on reading next? I'm currently meandering through Togainu no Chi because Midorikawa plays a character in it who's sadly unlockable lol…
No. 371131
>>371126Yeah, Tomosane's aggression felt really misplaced and over-the-top. I can't even say he's a good brother (which could have been a redeeming quality) because he wants to fuck his sister! I do think a lot of people find him sympathetic, but only because he was built to be projected onto. Also, I was not in love with the implication in the backstory that Takuji was just born fucked up. I don't know if that was the author's intention, but his mother was legitimately abusive, and in a manner that felt much more realistic than with Hasaki. Again, I don't know if making Takuji seem inherently evil was the author's intention in the backstory chapter, but it sure felt that way. I get why he would have acted that way because of his mom, but it would've been nice to see more acknowledgment of how her treatment very obviously shaped him into the person he is. I really wish Tomosane's character had been omitted; even making Yuki take over most of Tomosane's role in the story could have fixed it. Kimika is a great character, and while I'm sure you're probably already aware of this, while most Subahibi characters have a TnS equivalent, she was an entirely original addition to Subahibi. I really liked her endings with both Takuji and Zakuro, and I cannot imagine what TnS is like without her. I'll shut up about Subahibi now, but I've really liked reading everyone's opinions. Hoping for that TnS translation. It's listed at 100% on VNDB, but I'll believe it when I see it.
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>>371130>Kimika was too good for that world… Both of her endings make me tear up every single time…
same, she's one of those characters that makes you tear up because she didn't deserve anything that happened to her and was driven so far into a corner that death probably was her best option sadly.
>what do you plan on reading next?Shuuen no Virche! After that probably Paradise.
>I'm currently meandering through Togainu no ChiIt's a fun VN, very peak 2006 but I wouldn't expect god tier writing from it. Keisuke and Rin have the best routes.
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>>371131It genuinely feels like they were written by two separate groups, especially since my own invention seems to imply that a large portion of why Mamiya is the way he is is because his mom did all kinds of abusive stuff like pour boiling water on him but then they just sort of ignore that and have him be a typical evil mommy's boy character? The whole backstory creates more plot holes if anything, like why is Mamiya so shy and submissive when he's apparently been an evil cult leader baby since childhood? If it's meant to be the idea that he's only like that around Tomo then that also doesn't make sense since he's deathly afraid of him.For the laughs I'm gonna watch the tsui no sora OVA though, which has a sick 2.26 average rating ands looks absolute QUALITY.
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>>371135I hope we get Pigeon's Blood after Paradise. That game always interested me due to it's unabashedly edgy premise. I'll be playing Masquerade when that releases, weirdly enough I was trying to get hold of a copy of it just before it had its official release announced. Guess I'm lucky lol.
Maybe one day we'll get Shingakkou. It had a version without voices iirc so maybe we could get that (Koihime Musou's english release didn't originally have voices back in the early days of Mangagamer, only later when they were doing better financially) since Masquerade is another PIL/SLASH title? I tried to read Shingakkou in Japanese but the religious language was hard to understand.
Please, I need the dorky Russian prefect voiced by Midorikawa…Also, give me Chiral fumos, Nitroplus, reeeee.
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>>371136>tsui no sora OVAKek Have fun(?), nona! I tried to find it a few years ago and never did get around to it. It looks absolutely hilarious.
>>371139>ShingakkouI want Shingakkou so bad, more than any other untranslated VN out there. I don't care about the voices. I don't care about anything. I just want to see the
evil priest. JAST's announcement of PIL/SLASH games has made me so delusional about Shingakkou having a chance of getting a TL.
>MasqueradeI'm still on the fence about Masquerade, personally, because there doesn't appear to be much in the way of story. I'll probably wait for reviews, personally, but hopefully you'll enjoy it!
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>>371139Even for me it seems a little edgy kek, if it's translated I'll play it though.
Masquerade looks really realy mediocre to me, but it's pretty old so I'm not that surprised.
>Maybe one day we'll get ShingakkouThat's what all us fujoshis hope for…
>Also, give me Chiral fumos, NitroplusI like the GIFT plushies more, but I'd settle for fumos of Slow Damage's cast.
>>371142>It looks absolutely hilarious.It is, it's only 20 minutes long though so absolutely nothing makes sense.
No. 371151
>>371142Yeah from what I've seen of Masquerade, it's a weird sadistic nukige where a homophobic dude with a gun just waltzes into a school… and tells the other characters to start doing gay stuff while he holds them hostage. JAST does like to test the water for VN brands by doing the smaller nukiges first so I'm praying every night to Father August that we'll get our seminary murder mystery game sometime this decade.
>>371143https://vndb.org/v10773This one, didn't know there was a het one.
>>371144Masquerade does have some pretty mediocre artwork and like I said, a weird premise. I'm hoping to get some laughs out of it at least.
>>371149Ahh yeah, that is true… That's why I found the short manga adaption of Neil's route to be kinda trash, aside from it skipping through the story in like 10 or so chapters.
I'll go back to memorizing kanji for religious terms then…
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>>371149>voice acting in Shingakkou is kind of plot relevantI have been avoiding spoilers for this game, but I'm very curious how this plays out. I assume
two characters are voiced by the same person, and it turns out they're the same character? If not, I'm genuinely at a loss.
>>371151>JAST does like to test the water for VN brands by doing the smaller nukigesYou are feeding my Shingakkou delusion, and now, I'm rethinking my decision of not getting Masquerade, even though it doesn't look like my thing lol. I did pre-order Paradise, though, because it allegedly actually has a plot.
>>371144>Slow DamageUnrelated, but do you all think there is a chance of JAST doing that mobile game spin-off? I've been racking my brain trying to think of what else JAST could translate since they've exhausted N+C's catalogue, and besides moving to PIL/SLASH titles, that's about all I can think of them doing that would generate much buzz.
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>>371153>but do you all think there is a chance of JAST doing that mobile game spin-off?Probably not, JAST seems very into doing the bare minimum for a game even if it sells well like the nitro chiral titles.
I haven't played clean dishes but according to my friend who played a bit of it, it's crazy fucking hard to keep the protagonist from killing himself kek.
>that's about all I can think of them doing that would generate much buzz.They sold a crazy amount of Saya plushies (they completely sold out within less than a day) so I'm guessing they might continue with that?
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>>371151>I'll go back to memorizing kanji for religious terms thenLearn them as you read! I used a jp to eng dictionary and would come across English words I didn’t know and still somehow managed to play it. If you have basic Christianity knowledge I’m sure you can do it.
>>371153>spoilerThat’s also true but not what I meant.
There's a character who can perfectly imitate the voices of others, it’s pretty obvious who he is to us readers but not to Michael. In one h-scene he rapes Michael and uses his father's voice as if Michael is having sex with him instead. Kino.
No. 371159
>>371154>it's crazy fucking hard to keep the protagonist from killing himselfKek it's a shame we'll probably never get it in English because having a ton of bad endings sounds entertaining. I really like the white-haired character's design. I also know Eiji is supposed to be in it, and he was my favorite character.
>sold a crazy amount of Saya plushiesRight, I more meant in terms of BL games they could localize; sorry for the confusion. I think selling plushies is a given after the Saya Fumo's wild success. I'm personally hoping for sweet pool plushies, as SP and Lamento are my favorite titles from N+C, but I'm also aware sweet pool is not as popular as their other BL games, and Lamento never got an official TL. Hopefully, JAST throws a bone to the fans of DMMD or SD, even if I personally wouldn't be interested in those.
>>371158I won't read that spoiler right now because I am going to continue to lie to myself about Shingakkou getting an English TL, but I'm sure I'll come back to it eventually because it's realistically never getting an EN release, and I don't think I can muddle through 60 hours of text I barely understand (nor would I want to experience the story that way). Thank you for explaining, though.
No. 371169
>>371161Oh god, the fact the localizers decided to change the narration from 3rd person to 1st person in Slow Damage hurt just as much as the pronoun bullshit for the flaming homos…
Idk how Mangagamer licensing Shingakkou would work out, since JAST already have a deal with them. Has there been a case where different western companies released games from the same brands? Like, Mangagamer release CLOCK-UP games and JAST do Nitroplus and Sei Shoujo stuff, I'm not sure how exclusivity works.
I'm glad Mangagamer has come a long way from when they released the Higurashi games with really shoddy translations, the fact they went back and redid the entire thing years later showed a lot of dedication. With JAST, I do feel like the BL games take a backseat in terms of translation quality compared to the moid-aimed games, but I guess that's just par for the course with VNs in general.
Speaking of moid games, I got recommended a recent release called Nie no Hakoniwa which looks like absolute misery porn with the plot centering around
a box that grants a wish if you put 8 fertile wombs in it… Makes my abdomen hurt just thinking about it. I'd rather see guys get beat up to be quite honest…
No. 371172
>>371161If you ever feel like ranting about it on here, I'd be interested in reading, as I'm sure a lot of nonas would. I can't really hold a conversation about it because I have not read it, but I like seeing people's opinions. Maybe I'll eventually work my way up to reading it, but I kind of doubt that'll ever happen.
>>371169>Has there been a case where different western companies released games from the same brands?Not just the same brand- the same VN. Kara no Shoujo and its sequel were translated by Mangagamer. Then, Shiravune somehow got the rights, and now they've released their own versions of the first two games AND are releasing the third game.
>Nie no HakoniwaI saw a discussion on VNDB where people were debating whether it was 'otome-like,' which is absolutely wild considering how ugly the male characters are kek.
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Sorry to the non subahibi fans since it's been clogging this thread, but Mamiya looks so fucking cute dressed as Riruru oh my gooood~
No. 371538
>>371527Seconding this rec. It was really enjoyable, even if parts of it were nearly incomprehensible. I'm surprised anyone else on here has played it. Some of the OST was done by the guy who did a lot of Umineko's music, if I recall?
>>371222Cute.
No. 372522
>>370307I've been aware of Higurashi ever since the first season of anime dropped and it always seemed like gorey shlock to me. I ended up reading it only in 2020 and I was genuinely surprised by how much I loved it. Weird scrote moments aside, it was really heartfelt to me and struck the right notes at the right time. I was really struggling with pent up stress and coping with paranoia, and this helped me get over it by being more open with everyone and prioritizing myself over work. The characters were all so likeable too. I especially empathized with Shion.
Umineko is the one I've seen more universally praised, and it never really hit quite the same for me. Higurashi is still dear to my heart.
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Did any of the anons interested in Sayooshi play the company's latest game (released after a 20 year gap) Geminism?
I actually enjoyed it more than Sayooshi, personally, though they aren't that similar beyond the art style.
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>>372627I usually get along with them since women got to stick together even if we have pretty different taste. I like some eroge and most of the ones I come across are just really obsessed with animecore stuff with moe girls so I can have a more normal conversation with them compared to moids who just spam retarded memes.
Also I'd rather hang out with a pick me than a fakeboi, at least pick mes don't expect you to walk on eggshells 24/7.
No. 372632
>>372630IME pickmes are prone to weird jealous two faced behavior and shitting on you/ ignoring you the moment a scrote comes into the picture and you have to walk on eggshells due to a different set of weird rules
I guess in some cases that's slightly better than claiming that liking rance makes you an Honest and True male though
No. 372634
>>372632A tif obsessed with rance sounds like a nightmare of a person to be around kek
>>372633Any lolicon is insufferable to be around, not even for moral reasons they’re just that annoying
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No. 372698
>>372653Yeah, it's kinda depressing the double standards those pick-me types have. Like euphoria, sitting through routes and routes of senseless torture with a sadistic dickhead protagonist is totally worth it because the true end is heckin' wholesome?
Give me a break, if the fact the loli character gets the worst treatment in her route didn't clue them into it being misogynistic moid slop, I really don't know how to argue with them over it. I've seen the cope of "b-but the artist is a woman!", but that means jack shit at the end of the day when the vast majority of the game is cringy edgy shit.
Rance is just self-explanatory. I think people always just hyped it up in the West due to Sengoku Rance's gameplay, which is just… mediocre. Just like the relatively recent Dohna Dohna from Alicesoft too, which has a nice soundtrack but everything else is Darkest Dungeon-lite but with ryona shit.
Gore Screaming Show isn't deep whatsoever (read it after seeing the writer from Shingakkou did some writing for it), but I'll rate it a step higher than most animecore edge games for having a protagonist who isn't a sadistic piece of shit. But then again it has the caveat of a loli heroine route, so idk if I'd ever recommend it unless someone really is scraping the barrel for horror/mystery VNs. Iirc, out of the titles that particular brand released, it's fairly tame. Praying that EXTRAVAGANZA never gets licensed, that game truly disgusted me past euphoria and Fraternite.
Or any of Cyclet's games. That shit makes me hate the Antichrist even more.It's ok to enjoy 1000 year old lolis because "i-it's deep! you don't understand the symbolism!" but the instant a woman plays a BL/otome game with teens/young adults they get burned at the stake for being "predators/pedos/gross fujo scum". It really is tiresome.
No. 372897
>>372698>because the true end is heckin' wholesome?This is what gets me. If someone just was like, "yeah, it's fucked up and kind of gross, but I enjoy edgy stuff," then I could respect that person's opinion, but it's the insistence that it's this sweeping love story and actually Super Wholesome that bugs me.
>RanceI haven't played Rance (I might some day to see for myself what the hype is about; I like trying everything I can), but I've always seen the fixation with it as kind of weird. It looks painfully generic, and I don't know why people spend hundreds of hours on a ten-part series. Granted, whenever I do try it, I may eat my words, but it just looks so dull.
>Gore Screaming Show isn't deep whatsoever I do agree that it's not a horrible VN, but it was very much shilled as some kind of deep psychological horror story or something. I went in with that expectation, and came out sorely disappointed. I wasn't even impressed by the horror elements because any time something 18+ happened, it was more of the same stuff repeated ad infinitum. It lost whatever horrific impact it could've had because it was so repetitive (I did a bunch of bad endings after finishing the routes, and my eyes started glazing over at some point). I liked the art, and it wasn't aggressively bad, but I cannot believe how many people try to act like this is anything deeper than the VN equivalent to a horror b-movie.
>EXTRAVAGANZA never gets licensed, that game truly disgusted me past euphoria and FraterniteWould you mind elaborating on this? I know it's about bugs, but that's about it.
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>>372788Maybe those fans you met watch Youtubers like that sydsnap woman who only posts about hentai it seems, because I watched her (sponsored by JAST lmao) videos on the two translated Blackcyc games and I noticed the exact same opinions coming from a few female edgy VN fans I've talking to in the past. IIRC, it was especially her saying GSS writes the heroines like real people who have issues, but lots of male-oriented games have that kind of saviorfagging, like Grisaia.
I kinda feel a lot of younger VN fans love to try and out-edge each other by shit like saying "yeah I played Maggot Baits and didn't ctrl through the
regular snuff scenes, I'm so mature and kinky heheh".
>>372897Yeah I didn't understand the psychological horror angle for GSS, maybe it's just the "heroines need protags help to deal with their issues while a yandere loli and a creepy overpowered clown-thing make them worse" deal. It felt like a B horror movie to me too with how goofy and shamelessly crass it was at times, plus the slice of life stuff took up like half of a route with the only the occasional spook when shit hits the fan. The artist was the ideas guy for the game and I was actually pretty miffed when I saw his recent work on Dead Aegis. It's visually pleasing… but it's just all misery and constant ugly bastard garbage for the heroines. It had some vague excuse for a plot but that was just a backdrop for constant painful H-scenes.
It's been a long time since I played it, but EXTRAVAGANZA has also been shilled for having a "strong female protagonist", strong meaning "gets raped a lot and shrugs it off". It has this complicated flowchart system where one wrong choice nets you a long, long bad end and there are a LOT of bad ends which as you can guess involve a weird race of bugs/tentacle monsters. GSS bad ends are pretty tame compared to EXTRAVAGANZA's. I wouldn't even look up the CGs unless you want to puke up your last meal, and I can only wonder exactly how much more detailed and brutal they'd be without the mosaic censoring if it got an English release…
I'm glad Cyclet brand games probably won't come over to the west, however interestingly enough one of them has an actual deranged serial killing troon as the protagonist who kills the heroines out of envy lol. That one's called Dasaku if you're curious but is more or less just guro nukige shit.
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>>372522I actually wasn't a big fan of Umineko. It had nothing to do with Chiru or the usual complaints I see thrown around about it, but I agree with you that Higurashi is much better so far. Part of the reason I was hesitant to continue is because I was so meh on Umineko, but I'm having a lot of fun with Higurashi! I think the author's strong points are horror and characterization. Even Umineko had some great characters (Ange and Eva are two of my favorite female VN characters, and I love Erika even if she's not the best written). In Higurashi, I love how the characters actually act like kids because it makes the horror more poignant.
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>>373307I like Umineko but hard agree on Ange, Eva and Erika being best girls. A lot of the super iconic characters I was pretty 'meh' on though, like I know featherine, Lambda and Bern are incredibly popular because of power level autism but I never got into them because I never cared much.
I like the concept of Bern and Lambda being universe hopping lovers, but their actual personalities weren't all that impressive to me and they only really get discussed in terms of meta narrative.
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>>373110The number of fake edgy assholes that have tried to shill maggot baits to me is insane
>>373307Agreed, Higurashi >> Umineko. The mystery made more sense, the narration was less annoying and the logical flow of the events were just better. Umineko started pretty strong, I remember constantly being at the edge of my seat for the first 2 chapters and initially enjoyed battler beatrice showdowns, but the attempt to blend fantasy and mystery failed more and more over time. In the later chapters it was straight up random imaginary meme battles 80% of the time. Stuff like picrel is funny the first couple of times, but it gets tiring first. I think I was thoroughly bored by the time I was playing the answer arcs and wasn't even convinced by many of the explanations. Overall I felt lied to, because a lot of the stuff that prevented me from solving the mystery of the murders in the question arcs was often explained as "oh the weird creepy stuff that you readers saw were all red herrings and just fantasy, actually what happened was -insert boring realistic explanation that had little to no foreshadowing-". A story should not rely on readers having to dismiss half of what happens on the screen.
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>>373110>Youtubers like that sydsnap womanI wish there were more female YTers that focused on VNs. I really tried to like her channel because I was desperate for content on VNs, but she seems to focus exclusively on the most shocking parts instead of anything substantive. It's a shame because she could have an interesting perspective, but instead, her videos feel so hollow as she pretends to freak out about the wacky content in whatever shock value VN she most recently read. I wouldn't even mind her focus on nukige if she offered more perspective on them than just, "Isn't this craaazy?? I'm sooo traumatized!!!"
>EXTRAVAGANZAThanks for the explanation, by the way!
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BTW, we also have an old Higurashi thread. Please help me revive it.