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No. 29466

Old thread >>119682

Sage your non-milk replies this time.

Old Milk
>LACE dramu
>Comes back to western comm
> Proof she lurks on lolcow >>248672
> Shitty selling practices (i.e. says "never worn" while posting pics of her wearing said dress on IG, makeup stains, smells, etc.)
> Married
> Moves to LA
> Sits on her ass taking "aesthetic" photos while draining her husband of money
> Tries to stay relevant by begging pop up shops to hire her on IG
> Starts a YT channel which she rarely updates
> Tries to start a new BABYDOLL OS never to be heard about again >>602802
> Desperately tags every photo with brands and potential "collaborators"
> Made a public IG post about her husband getting sexualy assaulted in an uber, and makes it about herself >>666200

New milk
> K8 is "Gender queer" >>638704
> Comes out to everyone on IG >>640393
> Starts vague posting about her husband and how he is in the hospital
> Needs money for med bills and starts to "sell all her lolita", at ridiculously scalped prices ofc. (If only she had some sort of trust fund her father left her in case of an emergency like this ¯\_(ツ)_/¯)
> Creates a Ko-fi for people to donate to, and then posts photos of herself going to extravagant restaurants, as per usual
> Instead of spending time with her husband who is back in PA, she surrounds herself with her ~squad~ of Goose and ClaireMax
> Has the "opportunity to travel across the US" and basically asks to couch surf the whole way >>664017
> Possibly buying followers
> https://youtu.be/W3hO6dfD8zQ

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/katiebabydoll/?hl=en
Instagram (Personal): https://www.instagram.com/katiebabybat/?hl=en (shes locked out)
Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCOQK3vwDGuNAjPQ1H28Czrw

Feel free to add anything I left out.

No. 29467

>>29466
psst this is thread #4

Also
>teased a documentary with a film agency but dropped it bc boolies

No. 29468

>>29467
Whoopsie, I guess this is her 2nd thread in snow.

Who wants to guess how much longer her marriage will last? I hope to God her husband signed a prenup.

No. 29469


No. 29470

Some more links for past milk.

KiwiFarms thread: https://kiwifarms.net/threads/girlyhoot-kate-davis-girlytoot.30155/

And the original Sweet Rebel trailer: https://www.bilibili.com/video/av2689282/

No. 29471

>>29470
I'm still sad we won't get to see the whole thing. Can't believe it's been 3 years already.

No. 29472

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>possibly buying follows
It's not possibly, she is. She had 32k a few days ago and now it's near 40k. In just a few days? Bitch, you got busted

No. 29473

>>29472
she probably bought some Russian bots

No. 29474

>>29472
Wow, she really needed those donations.

No. 29475

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Old but never 4get

No. 29476

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Her old COF pictures were great too

No. 29477

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No. 29478

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No. 29479

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No. 29481

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No. 29482

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No. 29483

>>29480
>>29481
Why doesnt she cut the bangs on her wigs? the pinned up bangs look so terrible and remind me of early 2000s scene kids

No. 29484

>>29469
I transcribed this.

Because I'm kinda, like, savoring everything around me. I'm definitely someone who likes to savor. I eat slowly. Um, sometimes I do tasks slowly because I like to enjoy the moment. I think more people should try to savor things.
I'm very present. Past is meaningless. Um… Future is just something that comes with time. The present is the most important.
You just have to– You just can't.. dwell because it'll make you worried and sick. To worry about… The future, death.
Already, by the way I dress, you can tell that.. What is expected of society doesn't really concern me.
You know, I like to think of myself as someone… Just someone who's like an individual. Like a lot of people believe that they're supposed to be doing things… They're supposed to… Be finishing school in four years, they're supposed to be getting laid all the time, they're supposed to… be exercising every day but how many people are doing everything that society tells us we're supposed to be doing? The number is actually very small. A lot of people have hardships and have things that get in the way of what they're supposed to be doing. I think it's almost a way of society almost controlling us. People live their lives differently and…I think that doing what you're supposed to do all the time makes for a boring life.
–know, when I used to care, I was so much unhappier. I mean like, I was so miserable when people… Yeah! Stop caring about what other people think. The happier you will be. `Cuz I think it makes people… Doubt their own decisions too when they care about what others think. Doubt themselves.
These people in your life should want you to be happy, when doing what you love.
I know it doesn't seem like that but yes, I love being alone. I love doing things on my own. Everyone has the propensity for evil, and I think that there are many people in the world, including myself, who are very self-interested and self-preserving. It's like the music stops, yeah. And there's just this vision of the past and [inaudible: a simple verb? a simple world? I sent the word?] kind of thing, I guess.
eats macaron This is good.

No. 29485

>>29469
That was so boring that I honestly zoned out like after a little. She wasn't saying anything of interest and her tone and way she acted (constantly eating?) was so offputting.

Didn't she have already file a lawsuit in the past about Sweet Rebel? Is anything going to happen now that this leaked?

No. 29486

>>29466
should use that money on a jaw shave instead

No. 29487

>>29482
THIS is the only time I've seen her look actually nice… and beautiful? She still obviously can't coord outside of a set, as those shoes are too sweet to work with that dress. She should have stuck to soft brown hair like that.

No. 29488

>>29475
That lack of trigger discipline kills me every time I see this cursed image. Idk why I would expect her to know anything about firearm safety, but that’s just basic gun modeling.

No. 29489

>>29484
Think I just had an aneurysm. Also, I got into lolita maybe a year before LACE was a thing. How exactly did Kate become popular, bc it’s obvious she couldn’t coord for shit. Did people just like her wardrobe in general?

No. 29490

>>29489
She wasn't that popular before the whole LACE drama and her shit documentary I'd say, people kept saying her glasses (and scene kid wigs) were ugly on cgl and she left some snarky responses/self-posted. The followers she had back then were mostly because of her large wardrobe and some rare pieces.

No. 29491

>>29490
didn't she also model in shitty apartment listings? that was fucking weird.

No. 29492

>>29472
Frankly, that’s not an impossible gain. Her like ratio is still good enough for her followers to be real.

No. 29493

>>29491
She did. They were all unfurnished too and it was creepy.

No. 29494


No. 29495

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No. 29496

>>29495
>me me me me me me me meeeee

No. 29497

>>29495
"I like to name drop people when something tragic happens to make it all about me! Don't forget how my ex-husband got groped by an Uber driver! Teehee~"

No. 29498

>>29495
People who make someone else's death about _their_ feelings (unless it's a close family member or sth) are the fucking worst.

No. 29499

>>29495
Really pulling a Kelly eden here.

No. 29500

>>29499
Was thinking that too. Cows are all the same.

No. 29501

She posted her husband a bunch in her stories, it’s probably the first time they hung out in a while.

No. 29502

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>>29495
>from a big U.S. city
>population of Pittsburgh: 304,000
>someone I felt close to on a COSMIC LEVEL

No. 29503

>>29501
Can you post caps? I'm not giving her any story views. IG doesn't notify you when you take screenshots so post to your hearts content

No. 29504

>>29501
Surprised they aren't getting divorced. I wonder how desperate you have to be to stick around with a wife like Kate.

No. 29505

>>29501
I thought she was trying to get away from him?

No. 29506

>>29505
She said she was in an abusive relationship just earlier last month. What's the truth k8?

No. 29507

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>>29503
Not going through them all, they like went to a store and did “goofy” things. He posed like some things on ads and such. Maybe it was like a Walmart?

No. 29508

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Posting to IG is so inspiring!

No. 29509

>>29508
I don’t get how someone who is so depressed and ill has the energy to dress in lolita and go out every day.

No. 29510

>>29507
ot but how old is he? he looks like a high schooler

No. 29511

>>29510
maybe he's a vampire who feeds of kate's melodrama.

No. 29512

>>29507
When the Uber groping was a hookup you felt guilty about

No. 29513

>>29508
Being a fake leech who is sick all the time is very inspiring.

No. 29514

>>29508
The ego is huge. This is ment to inspire others but all it is “look at me! I’m amazing! Me me me!”

No. 29515

>>29508
Why try to get a job when you can put your energy into posting on instagram every day and just beg for money instead?

No. 29516

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She's constantly posting pics of her husband like a creep and making sure everyone knows how much she loves him. K8 if you really loved him why were you out shopping while he was in the hospital from a mental breakdown you most likely game him?

No. 29517

>>29516

Wasn't she just talking about how she was in an 'abusive' situation? What a fucking slimeball.

No. 29518

>>29517
I'm waiting for her to have another issue with him, and then claim she was confused and manipulated.

No. 29519

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Yeah posting on social media about not posting on social media is totally "taking a break". Also you were just on ig live yesterday.

No. 29520

>>29519
Just leave already.

No. 29521

>>29519
wouldn't be surprised if this is fallout from Goose getting b& from PGH Lolitas

No. 29522

>>29519
KEK I hate people who do this. They're there ones too obsessed with social media too. Definitely needs reassurance from the internet to make sure it's okay

No. 29523

>>29521
What happened exactly? I only know vaguely of Goose, but didn't know she was banned.

No. 29524

>>29523
Apparently there was financial manipulation going on with multiple members. My guess is she was trying to manipulate people into buying dresses and the like for her by saying "I'm so poor!!". I'm not in the comm though, so I'm not totally sure.

No. 29525

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How's that social media break going k8? She posted this and a video with her husband trying to prove they're all good now? What happened to your abusive/dangerous situation when you were with him? What happened to being genderqueer as well?

No. 29526

>>29525
can i speak to the manager- kei

No. 29527

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No. 29529

>>29527
That's kind of a dick thing to say.

No. 29530

>>29525
idk looking back it was never 100% stated that the "abuse" or whatever the fuck her issue was was actually with her husband. i have a hunch it wasn't, and it was with an efamous lolita, and she was trying to get people to ask her about it. then she stopped because she realized that people were thinking it was her husband and not a dramallama friend situation.

No. 29531

>>29525
idk looking back it was never 100% stated that the "abuse" or whatever the fuck her issue was was actually with her husband. i have a hunch it wasn't, and it was with an efamous lolita, and she was trying to get people to ask her about it. then she stopped because she realized that people were thinking it was her husband and not a dramallama friend situation.

No. 29532

>>29527
>>29528
>>29529
No joke. If he loves you for you, he should like you either way? This just makes it sound like the dude has a lolita fetish tbh.

No. 29533

>>29530
She posted about the "abuse" before Goose visited….

No. 29534

>>29525
She also posted an older photo on IG after claiming to take a break. She was sitting on a couch. Looks like its deleted now

No. 29535

>>29530
it was her husband. The whole reason goose flew out there was because something happened with him and k8 was alone and asked for someone to come stay with her. I don't know why it had to be someone from pa though when she has friends in la.

No. 29536

>>29535
sauce that it was him

No. 29537

>>29535
sauce that it was him

No. 29538

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No. 29539

>>29538
Good luck selling your nasty stained dresses for three times their value because you're ~*~e-famous~*~ K8.

No. 29540

>>29538
Yo does this girl know how to wash clothes? They all look so worn out

No. 29541

>>29540
Probably worn from washing all the literal shit off of them.

No. 29542

File: 1540012085092.png (2.07 MB, 1080x1792, Leavinglolita .png)

Now she can scam her followers without them knowing about her bad feedback on lacemarket.

No. 29543

>>29542
why would anyone choose an ig transaction over a LM one? i feel way more protected as a buyer on a site that, y'know, is actually made for buying and selling

No. 29544

>>29543
Idk. I’ve seen several lolitas do that lately and it irks me. If there were no other options I might understand, but like you said. LM exists for a reason. She’ll probably want payment from family/friends too.

No. 29545

>>29542
Why just these two choices? Rlly…. Instagram??

No. 29546

>>717893
Remember to sage. Also, what difference does it make? She has positive feedbacks with serious complaints in the comments.

No. 29547

>>29543
I've dealt with a buyer with a bad social rep. Has a positive score on LM, but selling to that lolita made me uncomfortable. If I refused to sell to that lolita on LM, I would have received negative feedback.

No. 29548

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Wow really thought provoking.

No. 29549

>>29543
Not all her followers have lacemarket accounts, and most of them who don't won't want to make one.

No. 29550

>>29548
Deep. Why does she think she is all that? So basic

No. 29551

She's starting to list stuff for sale on her Instagram. Have to dm for price.

No. 29552

>>29551
can we get a bunch of folks to DM her for prices from here and then list them here and in the comments on the ig photos?

No. 29553

She is still shady as hell, but I hope she does dial back her involvement in the Lolita community. I really think it would help with her mental health.
Lolita isn't inherently bad for mental health but damn if most of these snowflakes don't use it to create shopping addictions and situations where they base their self worth on clothes.

No. 29554

>>29548
Did she get that from her mums facebook page

No. 29555

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Inb4 Kate steals art

No. 29556

I don’t think Kate has enough milk for her own thread. She should be in Lolita lolcows.

No. 29557

>>29556
This isn't even the first or second thread about her. She's been a slow burn for a while but she definitely deserves her own thread.

No. 29558

>>29555
Does she even art

No. 29559

>>29558
No silly, remember LACE? She just gets other people to do her hard work for free while she whines about her shit story.

No. 29560

>>29555
So which generic Chinese eBay pins is she planning to sell?

No. 29561

>>29556
People aren't screencapping her posts or contributing to the thread lately, but she absolutely deserves the last 3 threads she's had

No. 29562

>>29561
She's been laying low untill now, and taking caps of what she's selling isn't epically milky, but if there's anything new I usually cap it.
I can't wait for more goose drama to come through.

No. 29563

>>29555
This girl and her husband are the most unstable people I’ve ever met. Wasn’t she working part time only six months ago for her husbands company?? And aren’t they both unemployed now? Probably why she’s selling the dirty shit she has now

No. 29564

Apparently K8 and her friends have been charging people twenty bucks for pics recently and bragged about it on facebook. Like honestly, you can hustle, just don't spout it online; that's just in poor taste to me. But I guess K8 gotta make cash somehow ayyyyyyyyy

No. 29565

>>29564
More details for people that don't have fb?

No. 29566

>>29564
>>29565
For real. Give the caps.

No. 29567

>>29566
Just saw it through a mutual friend's of Kate's fb post through my friend's fb account, not mine. I don't bother to follow them, so sorry no caps. It's one of her followers from the LA area though, forgot her name. But yeah apparently there were by Santa Monica Pier and was asking for $20 to anyone who asked for their photo.

No. 29568

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Diff anon but her little puppet Nina posted about the incident on Insta

No. 29569

Didn't want to screenshot her story, but on IG she says "I start my new job today! Wish me luck!"

hmmmm k8 working????(necro, contribute properly if there is milk.)

No. 29608

Its confirmed. He husband is leaving her. Which is what all the emo shit posting is about.
And how she's working now. I give her a month before she quits and makes up some sad excuse with how she was mistreated at work.

No. 29609

>>29608
Any screencaps?

No. 29612

>>29608
Is it evil of me to laugh at this? This is what happens when mentally ill teens/young adults get married without life experience. No matter how much money they have, it won’t save a rushed marriage.

That being said, does anyone know her actual age? I can’t remember exactly.

No. 29617

>>29612
I thought she was at least mid-twenties?

No. 29619

>>29608
where was it confirmed?

No. 29630

She is 26 or 27 I believe. She told me before. But I forget

No. 29738

>>29569
Has this bitch ever had a job?

>>29608
Good for him. I wonder what caused them to get married in the first place.

No. 30403

>>29612
Late twenties, she's no younger than 28 if not closer to 30.

No. 30472

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Just why would you put this on the internet

No. 31145

>>29608
She's still referring to him as her husband on instagram. Do you have caps?

>>30472
Maybe I'm weird but I think this looks better than her drag queen make up lol

No. 31183

>>31145
she looks like those humble braggers who are just "trying it on". or like those itas who don't do their makeup and hair. this dress isn't my favorite anyway, but the lack of makeup isn't helping.

No. 31214

>>29569
You can screencap IG stories and the OP will not get a notification about it. Please post pics to back up your claims esp since stories are up for 24 hrs only

No. 32282

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>>30472
She got laser eye surgery, that's why she's not wearing eye makeup.

Come on, does nobody care about actual news? This is pretty significant considering the girl has been whining about not having money for… how long? Even if you go cheap, laser is pricey. So she hasn't been e-begging for essentials (we knew that much), but to save for her laser eye surgery fund. That's the kawaii dream people have been blindly (pardon the pun) giving to.
Here are caps of the caption from the post after this talking about it

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No. 32284

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>>32283
The way she types is so grating.

Also >>29608
She's posting about her husband so that's a lie.

No. 32328

>>32284
that soy face lol

No. 32343

>>32282
She has cataracts iirc, so the surgery was probably covered by insurance.

No. 32371

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What is going on with her face here?

No. 32389

>>32343

Could this be why she was so bad with eye makeup? Like she literally cant see whats she doing?

Maybe her makeup can improve now.

No. 32463

>>32371
So genderqueer omg

No. 33092

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Another no-makeup post.
Caption: "I am too depressed to wear makeup but not too depressed to dress up yet ¯\_(ツ)_/¯"

I wouldn't go so far as to advocate for her to stop wearing makeup, but seeing her without any makes me feel like she might look better with very light makeup unlike the drag cake she usually has on.

No. 33100

>>33092
>too depressed for makeup
She already expended the effort to put on a wig, jump into a dress, buckle up tea party shoes (which are a bitch btw), accessorize, and take a few pictures.
She didn't have enough spoons left to wear some slap at that point? Besides the photo is such shit quality it's not like we could see every imperfection regardless, plus she filters. She just wants the asspats for wearing no makeup #sobrave

No. 33130

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Deleted post because I'm retarded, but you know line still uses a filter right?

No. 33131

>>33130
Considering how we can't see a single pore I guess we should take her word for it.

No. 33138

>>33130
Yeah line pretty much smooths your whole face as standard. She either edited or she has some light makeup on her eyes, even dark circles don't extend to fucking eyelashes

No. 33155

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What an attention whore

>>33130
Completely fake. She has on eyeliner and smudged liner/shadow on the outer corners and under. Dark circles start from the inner corner (close to nose)

No. 33183

>>33155
Is she not able to confide in her husband or any of her friends?
Is she even close with her friends or do they just take cute photos together?

No. 33187

>>33155
Yeah wtf. Does she seriously expect someone to be able to diagnose her from Instagram?

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No. 37495

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Her new gIrL gAnG

No. 37509

>>37495
What does this mean? Is this like those old web rings?

No. 37523

>>37509
It's like s4s or an engagement pod most likely.

No. 37858

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Don’t get plastic surgery, Kate.

No. 37868

>>37858
It's almost like there's a cheaper alternative for spoilt bitches pretending they don't make enough bank for fillers, I think they call it "concealer" ….

No. 44268

Unfortunately I don’t have a cap for this since it was in her IG story over the weekend and is gone now. But she was at Tekko this past weekend and in the story she said she hasn’t done her taxes yet. People have brought up her wasting her inheritance on clothes/trips/etc. How is someone this bad at financial stuff still? Especially when for her, doing taxes should hardly take any time. And she probably only brought it up bc someone mentioned it. I just don’t understand.

No. 44270

>>44268
Actually she said she had to leave to finalize things, not that she didn’t start. Don’t take cgl stuff as fact, they like to make it look worse. Still stupid if the cut off was Monday, but not that bad.

No. 44273

>>44268
>>44270
I did my taxes last weekend.

As long as you have your papers together and get them mailed by April 15th, it's not a big deal. We're not all Ned Flanders.

No. 44312

>>44273

If you have a job they literally withhold taxes for you so it's braindead easy. I did my taxes in 2 hours this weekend and that's probably on the long side because I double and triple checked them.

Unfortunately for her, she does not, so she will have to figure out how much she owes herself. My guess is that if she started this weekend she would have to file for an extension. But I don't follow her, and it's already established she's shit at money, so I'd love if anyone capped it. Sage for pointless US tax bullshit.

No. 44961

Hypocritical K8 did a poll asking if people want to see her colab with dolls kill after previously posting photos of the melty moon bag replica they made.
Now she's asking on her story what kind of jewelry people want to see for her ~colab~. (probably with tacky puvithil) And she wants to shove scalera lenses in her eyes, girl you just got lasik like 2 months ago?

No. 44976

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Please stop with the v bangs.

No. 45080

>>44976

Someone needs to tell her that gum disease ain't kawaii, either.

No. 45171

>>44961

for gods sake will people cap her shit. this is the fucking farm and i do not want to follow her even for milk. sage for non contribution.

No. 45253

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>>45171
I didn't cap it because I didn't think it was milky at the time sorry. But shes now doing this whole edgy lense phase? Idk.
She is also knowingly shilling for a wig brand that steals dreamholic wigs. (didn't get a cap of that rant either, but her sponsored posts are still up.)

No. 45257

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>>45253
Post about the counterfeit wigs.

No. 45363

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:(

No. 45385

>>44961
Haha you shouldn’t wear lenses until about a year after lasik. What an idiot

No. 45455

>>45363
Idk why this surprises her, she based her entire feed and popularity around being an OTT sweet lolita, of course the edgy shit won't do as well. (also, the v bangs made her 10 times less attractive)

No. 46024

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No. 46027

>>45363
Why does she have to sound so entitled about it? How dare her followers not like a deviation from how she constantly markets herself as. It's as if that specific style is what they follow her for.
>>46024
So thirsty, jeez.

No. 46031

>>46027
K8's not being thirsty. a lot of IG users are complaining about IG's algo and how it's used on a person's feed. she's not the only person.

No. 46032

>>46031
>lots of IG users are actually attention whores too anon!
Lmao

No. 46033

>>46032
no wonder IG is testing out a new like feature in Canada. Voldie is pissed abt it

No. 46217

File: 1556913079206.png (1.69 MB, 1080x1781, Screenshot_20190503-145007.png)

What the fuck is with her and these bangs? They're not even centered jfc

No. 46218

File: 1556913082145.jpg (155.24 KB, 1080x1349, 57457119_574672903053391_37457…)

she sticks out like a sore thumb in PGH

look at the kids' reactions

No. 46230

File: 1556922554027.png (1.7 MB, 1080x1806, Screenshot_20190503-172810.png)

Wow she thinks she's real deep huh?

No. 46231

>>46230
Every spineless idiot like her loves to repeat this slogan so they can pat themselves on the back while doing nothing of value for the world.

No. 46232

>>46218
As in Pittsburgh? Cause we’ve got people who do this shit in richer areas quite often

No. 46233

>>46232
Yeah she lives in Pittsburg now with her husband and pinkdreamdoll.

No. 46234

>>46233
is Kate sharing a bed w/pinkdreamdoll or her hubby?

No. 46235

>>46231

in her case i think it was intentional irony

sage for wk-ish

No. 46237

File: 1556924945748.png (604.73 KB, 739x541, 1531945701155.png)

>>46234
Who knows. K8 is ~totally queer~ remember? >>640385

No. 46244

>>46234
>>46218
Where are you supposed to wear lolita then?

>>46230
I hate people who say late capitalism sooo much

>>46234
Is she doing poly crap now? What a trainwreck

No. 46246

>>46237
>for years I used lolita as a crutch because I was terrified of being called gay
But kate aren't most lolitas lesbians?

- a lesbian lolita

No. 46262

>>46237
ok k8 you're super gay now but what about your husband

No. 46263

>>46262
Wasn’t he nonbinary or something? That totally makes theirs a gay marriage.

No. 46387

File: 1557069098305.png (1.27 MB, 1240x2048, Screenshot_20190505-100906.png)

Get ready

No. 46427

Kate is thinking about getting tattoos on her collar. Yuck

No. 46488

>>46427
Did you not see >>46387? And sage if you aren’t going to contribute.

No. 46559

>>46262
>>46263
Her husband is "genderqueer."
Tbh their whole relationship is so weird to me, they act like edgelord teenagers and i can't imagine them having any kind of sexual relationship.

No. 46747

File: 1557344657471.png (2.08 MB, 1080x1792, Screenshot_20190508-144137.png)

K8, you have no job and yet you can't find time to simply take promotional photos? Also weird flex about all her free shit.

No. 46749

>>46747
if you saw an earlier story on IG, she was in the hospital

No. 46753

>>46747
I thought she got a job

No. 46755

>>46749
Yet she had time all earlier this week and last to dress up. Also sage your comments.
>>46753
She quit because it was "too stressful"

No. 47240

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No. 47485

Kate broke her ankle with the platforms she wore and may have a blood infection.

No. 47488

File: 1557799455551.png (1.49 MB, 1080x1635, Screenshot_20190514-104916~2.p…)

>>47485
For the last time, this is an image board

No. 47626

>>47488

Ho boy that escalated quickly.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, she needs to take control of her health. It's nice to get all the asspats whining about her chronic health issues, but all of these can be under good relative control without it spiraling into a nightmare hospital admission like this one. And she can enjoy more time in brand.

No. 48180

>>47488
So she's septic? This is preventable how do you let your health get this bad? Yikes.

No. 52817

File: 1559960025979.jpg (179.33 KB, 1209x1415, Pr.jpg)

That wig is so yikes.

No. 52834

>>52817
She was recently claiming she weighs 100 pounds because her anxiety is so bad she can't eat.

She's 5'8", this does not look like a 100 pound person at that height.

No. 52863

>>52834
Her anxiety would probably improved if she stayed off the internet.

No. 52881

>>52834
This looks like shoop, how's her arm get smaller and smaller as it goes down. Your hand shouldn't be that much smaller than your head. The legs.

No. 52895

File: 1560003472420.png (1.13 MB, 1080x1791, Screenshot_20190607-213354.png)

Please just burn this wig.

No. 52896

>>52817
Just the wig? Lol.

No. 52970

File: 1560051399365.png (2.85 MB, 1238x2048, Screenshot_20190608-223548.png)

Why tf do people still sponsor her when she can barely post anything on time?

No. 52996

>>52970
She will brag to anyone who would listen about all her sponsorships but would complain that Pusheen made her pay for things. She cancelled her subscription in hopes of extorting it for free. Kate constantly chooses to hold off buying something in hopes of getting it for free, then later resell it for the retail price when she was done with it. Not even her closest friends were saved from a markup on her free booty.

No. 53001

On a recent live stream she brings up more about moving back. She says she was trying to kill her self and her husband was on drugs for a bit. Called it very successful attempts that led her to go to the hospital a bunch. He was going back home to get help and she was debating going back with him. She had an apartment and job lined up but ended going back with him and getting on some meds.

They seem to be both better now and she wants to move back to la but not downtown as they were too isolated. The only other milk I heard was her briefly mentioning her shitty finances. Someone asked her about a big plusheen plush she has and she got into a bit about how she never liked ppl touching it because it was expensive and how she regrets spending so much money back then on dumb stuff.

No. 53005

>>53001
they shouldn't be moving back to LA. their priority is to work and shore up finances.

No. 53009

>>52970
I'm surprised she hasn't tried to get a free tripod yet because she bitches about it every chance she can. Like you can't afford a $60 item needed to do your "job"?

No. 53015

File: 1560111913003.png (1.41 MB, 1080x1782, Screenshot_20190609-152423.png)

Get ready for her pr expertise.

No. 53022

>>53015
Step 1: Be a shameless stupid bitch.

No. 53071

>>53001
Not downtown because it was too expensive not too isolated lol holy shit how is middle of the Los Angeles City area “too isolated” lmfaooooooooo

No. 53129

>>53071
Not trying to WK, but maybe she means too far from her other e-fame leeches? Did she live in heart of downtown and not somewhere like K-town? I know a lot of girls live in ktown.

No. 53172

>>53129
She literally lived in k-town.

No. 53234

>>53129
Implying it’s not a bee’s dick away or an uber call to go between the two areas, they are pretty much almost next to each other. Sounds more like someone ran out of daddy’s money and the tax man is coming for her ass now lol

No. 53242

File: 1560287190232.jpg (125.01 KB, 960x1280, Millie.jpg)

Wow I didn't think k8 could look any worse. Her liner is so wonky.

No. 53243

>>53242
I never lurk in /w/ because I’m not a weeb but is this a popular makeup look??? I clicked the thumbnail on the homepage cause I thought it was Millie Graves from the nicole’s calves thread in /snow/, so is kate getting inspo from Millie or is this just a popular look right now?

No. 53250

>>53243
She's trying to do a millie Graves lewk.

No. 53254

>>53172
I thought K8 lived in Japantown when she was in LA, not K-Town.

No. 53270

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>>53242
Millie commented, but Kate did mention her. Either way, I don’t care about Millie but she does pull this look off better imo.

No. 53284

>>53254
She lived in little tokyo. It's right next to skid row and some really shitty areas, and it's a pain in the ass to get to. Locals never go there because it's a tourist infested nightmare, there's no parking, and traffic is awful all the time. She picked it for pure weeb points when she should have just moved to the valley like everyone else.

No. 53353

>>53242
Ok, did she not fix her eyes? Because you’d think getting laser eye surgery would help her see better without glasses when doing makeup. Did the surgery do fuckall? How can someone who wears so much makeup, so frequently be so shit at application!?

No. 53496

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No. 54052

Apparently the bitch is moving back to LA at the end of the year, guess she didn't learn her lesson the first time.

No. 54135

>>53172
Nevermind! She most likely ruined it for herself before even arriving to LA with the LACE fiasco.
>>53234
>implying she would put that much effort into visiting someone else

No. 54142

>>54052
Where's that screencap? I have it saved but I'm tired of your lazy ass not posting proof

No. 54162

>>54142
Just check her insta stories you dumb cuck. I don’t follow her so I have friends screenshot it for me. How about you get off your lazy ass instead of bitching about it and not writing anything of use to us.(learn 2 imageboard)

No. 54166

>>54162
Nayrt but that’s a stupid excuse. If you’re the one bringing milk you should’ve been the one to cap and post the proof. Not everyone even has IG.

No. 54178

>>54162
This is an image board to document milk. Why would you come here and not post caps?

No. 54361

File: 1561083518957.png (1.46 MB, 1080x1823, Screenshot_20190618-154433~2.p…)

>>54162
Here you go, since image boards seem to be really hard for you to use

No. 54537

File: 1561178106039.jpg (408.71 KB, 1536x2048, Meow.jpg)

This is painful to look at.

No. 56057

She doesn't even have gagues? She's going to push away all her followers that made her "famouz" with this weird stuff she's been going on.

No. 56058

File: 1562242583623.png (1.93 MB, 1080x1718, Plug.png)

>>56057
Dropped image

No. 56087

File: 1562274941419.png (506.7 KB, 813x446, safa.png)

Her eye makeup looks so fucking crusty and people are still praising her? I'm so confused.

No. 56088

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>>56087

Reminds me of Dakota roses old shoots

No. 56089

>>56087
what the fuck is that eyeliner sweet jesus

No. 56090

File: 1562275049672.png (427.18 KB, 810x479, 1e1.png)

>>56087
Another recent cringe, loving the shade in the comments

No. 56095

>>56087
Really ironic she’s jumping on the ”uwu selfcare be healthy” train when she was hospitalized for ignoring a blood infection and eats like shit.

No. 56352

>>56090
>>56087
I've only just noticed, she has almost 60k followers but most of her posts get 1-3k likes. Is that normal? That's very little for that many followers surely. Did she load up with bots?

No. 56399

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>>56352
I’m not sure what % is normal for someone w that amount of followers though since many could be bots.

No. 56443

File: 1562603409509.jpg (456.69 KB, 2048x2048, FB_IMG_1562603376104.jpg)

I was inspired by bubblegoth and cyberpunk and wanted to combine the more futuristic concepts with lolita fashion. I wanted an intergalactic look and this is how it turned out. I really liked using different textures and I think it’s fun and fresh so I wanted to share!

social: http://instagram.com/katiebabydoll

rundown
Goggles - ESQAPE
Hair Bows and Choker - Roxie Sweetheart
Earrings - new profanity
PVC set - kiss me kill me
Dress and socks - angelic pretty
Wristwear - 8th SIN
Boots - demonia

Whew lad.

No. 56444

>>56443
So many ass kissing comments Jesus.

No. 56457

>>56443
Plus she's at Anthrocon. Why any self-respecting lolita would want to hang out there is beyond me.

No. 56494

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No. 56515

>>56443
are we in 2004 again?

No. 56591

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No. 56698

>>56090
>as that knife literally cuts your mouth
Holy fuck I didn't even notice that lmao. She's made herself look like such a sped.

No. 56750

>>56591
Wait wasn't she super poor only recently? How is she affording more shit?

No. 56880

>>56352
I follow her on insta and haven’t liked her posts in months. She keeps posting weird ass shit like >>53242. And >>56090

If her stories are anything to go by, she’s noticed that her interactions have gone down.

No. 56915

>>56880
That's why she resorted to posting on Closet of Frills to find more followers who don't know about her past drama.

No. 56944

I saw her at anthrocon this weekend (I didn’t realise who she was until now) and she made some weird comment about furries being nicer than lolita people after I complimented her it was awkward

No. 56949

>>56750
Her idea of poor isn’t the same as everyone else. She’ll have $35,000 and wail that she’s poor until Mommy sends more money. She’ll penny pinch $2 with someone who was recently unemployed and calls friend. She’s scanned hundreds of dollars out of the PGL members. But only the old members, which is why she made her comeback because none of the new girls know or believe the shit she pulled. I’m so glad she’s only going to infect LA and PGL. Too many efamers in my community kiss her ass, not paying attention to what she does to friends who hold her accountable. Yuck.

No. 56970

>>56443
am I the only one whos eyes are not completely offended by this? I kind of like it as a creative oc or something…but its not. I want to see this drawn.

i'm also high so maybe that's why it looks at the very least visually pleasing.

No. 56971

>>56515
isn't that whats popular on the gram right now.

I'm not on fb does post more on there?

No. 58137

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No. 58138

>>58137
Is she dating this person? Thought she was still with her husband and they were monogamous?

No. 62517

File: 1565960201665.png (2.27 MB, 1080x1794, Screenshot_20190816-075507.png)

What the fuck is this look?

No. 62520

>>56949
Proof of scamming would be good

No. 62565

>>58138
She posted a story a few days ago about wanting another roommate. So she & her husband are split?

No. 62571

>>62517
tard kei

No. 62587

>>62517
Clearance bin at Claire's kei

No. 62676

>>62565
She's moving back to LA with the hubs.

No. 62679

File: 1566070054420.jpg (240.57 KB, 1080x1243, Sicomode.jpg)

I'm so tired of her shoving her cYbEr goggles and shoes into every coord.

No. 62708

>>62676
Damn when will her husband just leave her ass

No. 62751

>>62679
she's not even doing lolita now just shitty cybergoth ala 2008 era. at least her shitty scene/alt hairstyle is finally thematic with her outfits.

No. 63594

>>62708
Maybe when he grows a pair lol can't wait for her to start fucking shit up in LA again

No. 64686

File: 1566996329971.png (2.41 MB, 1236x2048, Screenshot_20190828-074453.png)

Wow she really thinks she has good advice to give and is worth paying for?

No. 65554

K8 is back in LA.

No. 65555

>>65554
Sage your boring shit Kate

No. 65558

>>65555
go look at her IG stories you lame sager(learn 2 sage)

No. 65564

>>65555
It's relevant to the thread. Anyway hopefully this means there will be more milk before she ends up spending all her, or more likely her husband's, money.

No. 65858

File: 1568002612109.png (853.27 KB, 497x876, whencowscollide.png)

>>65554
she's hanging out with kelly eden or something, based on both of their insta stories.

No. 65883

>>65858
They seem like a good match, both attention whores who don't know how to manage money. Plus Kelly is fresh out of friends, and looking for a new roommate she can leech off of.

No. 65900

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No. 65965

>>65883
K8 mentioned moving to LA this fall despite bitching to anyone who would listen that she couldn't stand living there. If she meant living with Kels, that would be hilarious

No. 65984

>>65965
Imagine the milk when they eventually have their big fallout if this is true. kek.

No. 66808

File: 1569005363484.jpeg (568.88 KB, 673x913, E1469CEB-40BF-4408-91C1-63CF05…)

Her head looks so big compared to her body, kek

No. 68593

Kate: I’m gonna tell this teenager to move in so we can have a “roommate”
>uses the teenager to meet guys off tinder and fuck someone with a diaper kink
>husband finds out she fucked someone with a diaper kink so now she hides with a lesbian couple
>she complains husband is abusive because he won’t pay off her $1000 of her PayPal debt, because they are getting a divorce over kate fucking someone with a diaper kink.

No. 68615

>>68593
Oh please give some proof of anything. This is good milk if it’s real

No. 68635

>>68593
This smells like bullshit. Please provde proof.

No. 68665

File: 1570464762037.jpeg (575.53 KB, 2048x2048, BECE06AE-D36A-4EE2-8EDD-ADD15E…)

>before she did the kink vs after she slept with him

>NOT MY SCREENSHOT! I JUST STOLE IT<

No. 68672

>>68665
Holy shit if this is real, Kate talks like a valley girl in text
No wonder she wants to be back in LA clout chasing aside

No. 68675

Who was her roommate?

No. 68691

>>68665
this is the hottest milk since LACE. Oh girlytoot, how I've missed you.

No. 68692

>>68593
>Ctrl+F "diaper". 3 results. All in this single post.
Holy shit?! I have many questions.
WHO? WHAT? WHEN? WHERE? WHY? and HOW?!

No. 68721

Guess the thong diaper "jokes" weren't really jokes at all

No. 68732

>>68665
Does anyone know who this John person is?

>>68675
Pretty sure it was pinkdreamdoll

No. 68737

>>68732
Seems like that’s the diaper fetish guy who she cheated on her husband with.

No. 68740

File: 1570497642133.png (119.41 KB, 433x565, the saga continues.png)

>>68665
Funny how Kate's catalyst to any kind of e-fame relevancy has had to do with poop.
This time it's about fucking a man with a diaper kink.
When she first started, it was about taking a giant shit in a bathroom stall while in brand.

My, my, how she has graduated to shittier things.
What'll it be in another few years, will Kate finally reveal it was her fetish all along?

No. 68745

>>68732
Oh yeah, I remember seeing pinkdreamdoll and k8 posting with each other at times. I noticed pinkdreamdoll has deleted all pics with k8 in them, so seems like some shit went down.

No. 68746

>>68745
They were roommates in Pitts with k8s husband.

No. 68755

File: 1570501538028.jpeg (49.67 KB, 550x524, 2BC516B6-2D49-4ABE-AEA2-2D932B…)

All y’all right now

No. 68767

Wow I wonder how many other people she’s emotionally abused at this point

No. 68770

>>68737
For the love of god I hope her husband is finally leaving her. It’s long overdue. And I expect now she’s found someone else to use and manipulate for her own gain anyway.

No. 68798

>>68767
Lolcow may not like Goose, but she abused her and got her banned from their local comm because K8 had to be the victim.

She throws people away, but always makes them look like the toxic one.

No. 68826

>>68798

Goose got banned for more than just the K8 bullshit. They can both be shitty people.

No. 68828

>>68826
>>68798
Not a fan of Kate, but things goose got banned for
> taking creeper shots of com members and posting them publicly to make fun of them
> scamming multiple people
> harassing multiple members in person and online
> hardcore bullying and emotional manipulation of a couple com members
> sneaking onto a com member's computer while at their house and taking photos of private conversations between that com member and their partner.

cheating on your husband and flouncing dramatically is bad but goose is still the worst.

No. 68830

>>68828
Goose is a shitty person but I would argue cheating on your husband or wife while simultaneously leeching off of them for emotional and financial support is worse than anything you listed.

No. 68833

>>68830

Goose did way more damage to the comm than K8 did. The woman Goose took the pic of used to host the big ILD meets. She quit the comm a few months later, and I don't know how that wouldn't factor into her decision. She was working at Tekko too when Goose took the pic. K8 treats the people close to her like shit, but that's like three people.

No. 68834

>>68833
Being shitty to people you are acquainted with through a hobby is not the same as being shitty to your spouse. Kate has defamed her husband claiming he’s ~abusive~, she’s leeched off of him for years draining him financially, and now it’s come to light she’s cheated. And Kate has a notorious history of treating people she’s close to like shit yeah, and that list is way more than “like 3 people.” Stop WKing Kate comparing her to Goose, this is Kate’s thread. Make a thread about goose if you want to talk about her this much or take it to the Lolita lolcows thread.

No. 68835

>>68834

I'm white knighting K8? You're the one insisting she has more than three good friends.

No. 68836

>>68835
I’m saying the people she has been close to in the past amounts to more than three. And you act like she wasn’t shitty to everyone during the LACE debacle, and ignoring her old comm drama. Read these threads and sage your noncons about Goose.

No. 68838

>>68835
honey, don't ever white knight. comprehend that this fashion is full of entitled white weebs who thirst for dick. K8 isn't alone

No. 68841

That moment you realize Kate’s new girlfriend sells acid to high schoolers to make ends meet, and she is probably only with them for the free drugs.
Wonder if the “leaving lolita”sale is gonna be any good. (:

No. 68842

>>68841
Proof? And selling acid isn't very lucrative as a job lmao

Also Kate doesn't seem like she would be very into drugs

No. 68843

>>68842
>K8 doesn’t seem like she’d be very into drugs

You really aren’t familiar with her then. She posts about weed all the time and alludes to other drugs on her timeline.

No. 68852

If you don’t think miss wannabe cyber goth doesn’t do drugs, you are oblivious AF

No. 68855

You can also tell which pics she’s high in and which ones she isn’t. She thinks she can hide it but she’s terrible at it.

Plus on her finsta I’m pretty sure she’s smoking in more than one post.

No. 68856

File: 1570567324380.jpeg (656.16 KB, 750x789, 8169C315-3907-4BA1-98BE-2EEB00…)

She’s a fucking idiot for not having her shit on private

No. 68857

File: 1570567415777.jpeg (702.31 KB, 750x791, D5E6F86E-2877-41E2-9C73-3C477B…)

>>68855
She’s not smoking here, but look at how obviously blitzed out she is

No. 68859

>>68843
Weird, I've been somewhat following her for a while and it didn't occur to me. I think there is a difference between weed and hard drugs though.

No. 68861

File: 1570568120319.jpeg (801.74 KB, 750x920, 3C1D94B5-FDD1-4D07-A259-E33051…)

>>68857
This was already posted here earlier, but here she is smoking

No. 68863

>>68857
unrelated but god this outfit is ugly

No. 68875

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No. 68886

File: 1570583002710.jpeg (657.65 KB, 828x871, D0AC2A5F-9B6B-4DCB-9A7D-BF5829…)

>>68857
I mean she looks like crap here, not surprising if she is high most days.

No. 68888

>>68857
>>68856
The weed earrings really tie the 'rolled around the closet and wore what stuck' ensemble together.

No. 68900

>>68857
She looks like an escaped mental patient here. this is horrendous

No. 68929

>>68665
When were these messages sent? I'm absolutely dead

No. 69174

>>68665

>has affair with dude with a diaper kink

>runs to tell someone through DMs, which you can screenshot, that she had an affair with dude with a diaper kink

How dumb is she? Did she think that she could run around telling people about this and that no one would post this online? Or did she just not care?

No. 69279

File: 1570916410467.png (2.64 MB, 1520x2048, Screenshot_20191012-163655.png)

What is this makeup and brows??

No. 69283

>>69279
I struggled to understand the second part of her caption as well

No. 69464

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Seems like Kate is low on funds. Trying to sell her choppy wigs and pr items.

No. 69465

>>69464
jesus that wig is so ratty. that's kind of fucked up to sell it like that

No. 69471

>>69464
That's…not what widows peak means. That's a v bang wig. Widow's peak means a v hairline, as in a lacefront wig.

No. 69478

>>69464
Isn’t that wig old as fuck too??

No. 69529

>>69464
Kate’s idea of being low on funds is still having $30,000 in liquid assets. That’s her being broke. Never mind that most of it is her husband’s money she drained out of their joint account and into one just for herself.

No. 69533

>>69471
rofl i was just about to say that. She's an idiot and that wig is trash. You can get a brand new wig for $35 on arda

No. 69534

>>69533
She marks up her nasty stained/ratted/otherwise damaged shit because she wore it so she thinks it must be worth more. Nothing new since she’s done this for years.

No. 69545

>>69529
Are you allowed to do that? Just take money from your spouse?

No. 69546

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No. 69549

>>69534
When she can't sell her damaged shit she'll blame someone else. Nothing is ever her fault.

>>69545
A joint account can just be drained by either parties on it. So if it was a joint account she could drain the money. When that isn't enough she'll manipulate her mother out of money.

No. 69569

>>69546
Wow this is so desperate and cringe, Dollskill is widely known to be shitty.



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