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No. 102290

Previous Threads:

Notable Cows:

>uses garageband for a majority of her music, knows nothing about music theory
>Deletes own songs without notice for attention, "muh depression"
>Swarms of 13 y/o fans who idolize her
>horrible tumblr art
>claims to have DID, now, apparently.

Aki Glancy/ EmpathP
>Mediocre producer who got to live our her fantasy of becoming a vocaloid
>Spearheaded VOCAMERICA. Enough said
>Still has not delivered on the stretch goals for a related kickstarter. Where's the 22k Aki?
>Instead, uses the money to create unbelievably shitty XXXXL sized vocaloid cosplays to parade her obese body around in

Hazuki No Yume and TheBlackCero
>vocaloid subbers, got into a fight with rachie, circus-p and some irrelevant utaites
>basically they said the hazuki and cero were just reuploading videos
>apparently rachie stole hazuki's translyrics, and cero is mad because "hazuki's japanese skills are superior"
>cero goes on large twitter rants and just can't fucking let it go
>hazuki "retires", and ultimately just leaves and deletes all their accounts. Says she wants vocaloid wikis to delete all her translations.
>cero is mad that people are reuploading hazuki's videos, because hazuki is the fuCKING bEST

No. 102292

I'm not defending her but GHOST actually knows a bunch of music theory. She just doesn't care. IMO her earlier songs on her channel were nice in composition and the instrumentation was all right and I liked them, but over the years and with her recent songs she just got messier and more insane and chaotic to be "unique" but to the point where it doesn't even sound like a song anymore and just a dissonant slamming of random chords and rocks.

About the DID, there's a possible chance she may have it, and if so, that's sad and I just feel sorry for her, but the fact that she's now joking about it and typing like a 12 year old and treating it like something fun and funky like she describes is fucking stupid and makes me doubt she really has it. I get how some coping mechanisms involve viewing the situation as something irrelevant and funny but it gives off the worst image to fans of hers who are preteens

No. 102293


i'm glad more of these are popping up, i'm getting tired of dumb kids cancelling someone over a sexy miku pic

No. 102294


I'm all for unique instrumentation but she just is the textbook definition of insane edgy when it comes to her music now. I agree, her older songs were decent, but now it's just factory sounds, especially entomologists, such a forgettable and muddy song, and what the fuck was the mess that was spider on the wall

Also I don't care if she has DID or not, either way it doesn't excuse her being an funnie boi about it. I get that it may have made her make some irrational decisions in the past and if she's genuine then sure I'll take her apology but even after that apology she's still so self centred and in the clouds with her fans and treats them like her pawns in the comments

No. 102295


Not surprising. They worship everything she does. I hate cancel culture but I don't think Ghost has changed much at all especially since she accused Steampianist of being a pedophile and got her fans to witch-hunt him. She's still immature as fuck and I've seen 13-14 year olds act a thousand times more mature and responsible than her.

also unrelated but I went on her curious cat and she supports he/him lesbians lmfao

No. 102296


They claim it's "pedophilia" and harming children and then harass the artist to death. Yes, fiction can affect reality but when actual minors get harassed and groomed and preyed on by actual pedophiles, they ain't saying shit. Really proves how hypocritical over half of the western community is, no wonder the Japanese side of the vocaloid community doesn't want much to do with it

Also we should make that Naku person a big cow tbh

No. 102297


what the fuck is a he him lesbian

No. 102298


some stupid Tumblr MOGAI oppressed bullshit for woke points

No. 102299

Naku isn't particularly milky imo. She's a FTM who had a creepy relationship with an underage girl, and that's all the milk there is. Not a cow, just your average predator.

No. 102301


She immediately ran away when she got called out. All socials are deactivated and nobody has provided any new milk so it would be hard to make her into a cow. She is very creepy though, agree.

No. 102308


Steampianist isn't much better. He's a racist on his Twitter saying that all Chinese people are scum, since he's apparently Filipino and the government is giving special treatment to Chinese people like in taxes and healthcare, so he uses it as an excuse to be racist.

No. 102310

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this was already posted on the bad art thread, but I think it belongs here too. Supposed to be Luka and Meiko.

No. 102311

damn i don't remember vocaloid fans intentionally drawing characters as fat and black for clout when they were 12

No. 102312

that meiko looks like a mexican grandma. they BOTH look like mexican grandmas.

what's the point of butchering a character's appearance this badly? why not just make an oc? do they draw this shit and slap a fandom label on it to get more likes or something?

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No. 102315

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I don’t like GHOST but I’ll have to say I personally am on her side for this one

No. 102319


I think GHOST was in the right this time, she might not be the best person but it's official now, Steam is fucking disgusting.

No. 102320

At best I can maybe see him guilty of racism, but the claims about him being a pedophile are complete bullshit.

His songs aren't 'glorifying' child predators, I don't get where people come to that conclusion. Yes, he writes songs about them, but shay also wrote a saga about a deranged mother (who's personality stems from a misogynistic trope) obsessing over her son, and then his equally deranged wife (who shay really specifies to have synesthesia, which is important i guess) murders him out of 'anxiety'.

him owning a nazi outfit really isn't that big a deal. i don't know why people are blowing that out of proportion so much. in karakuri burst len wears an outfit with a swastika on it, yet Hitoshizuku-P and Yama△ remain free of criticism, as far as i'm aware.

also that last point. "i can't find any evidence myself of him using the n word". shut the fuck up if you don't have evidence.

No. 102322

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so is ghost seriously going to start referring to herself as "we"…

No. 102326


the racism is pretty disgusting though. also meh, I don't think she glorified it that much and she's mentioned how she doesn't want to be associated with communications and acknowledges it was shit.


anon I think that we means she and all her followers should work together as one and a "we".

No. 102327


they're not glorifying them but it still isn't the best move to write a song about a real person and the pain it caused her family after her death. it's kind of insensitive imo.

I'm not defending ghost much but at least her storyline was fictional and she now admits it was shit.

No. 102328

For Karakuri Burst though that’s because the swastika symbol (manji in Japan) has a looooong history of being a holy symbol way before the Nazis started using it. The title even uses the reversed version of the swastika (卍).

No. 102331

Yeah, communications was shit. Not because it's themes were too dark, but because the subject matter wasn't handled well.

Again, if shay can recognize the subject matter she was writing about and realize it was morally wrong, i don't see why she can't come to the conclusion that steam can do the same. she's living in her own head.

but yeah you're right on his racism. though i've only seen him make those kinds of comments towards the chinese specifically.

No. 102332

That's pretty interesting, actually.

But again, would the fandom know or care if there was a situation where hitoshizuku and yama got cancelled? (hypothetically speaking)

No. 102335

I'm definitely taking Steampianist's side on the anti-China comments. Everyone should read up on how the Chinese treat Filipino people (and literally anyone who's not white) before forming an opinion on this. Westerners are stupid as fuck for projecting their relationship with China onto the whole world and assuming all opposition comes from the racist/white supremacist roots of their own culture.
The song about a child molester was trashy and tasteless, though, IMO. I haven't heard the murder song, but I have a feeling my opinion will be the same. Edgy content from a self-admitted edgelord. He deserves to get dragged for that, but everything else just seems like filler.
The "Nazi outfit" thing also clearly takes more inspiration from punk culture, and the spirit of being offensive, than any actual nod to Nazi ideology, so there's not much to call out there, besides the tastelessness (yet again). It's there for shock value, he literally rotated the Buddhist symbol.

No. 102336


I actually like and respect Ghost on a small level for acknowledging Communications was shit, so it’s understandable why she discontinued it. Her not saying that at the time she discontinued it wasn’t right, but at least she explained and apologised for the bad way she wrote it. I thought the music was decent, some parts were pretty catchy too, but even when I was a huge fan of hers it made me uncomfortable to a degree. Especially Kennith/Colorbars.

She acknowledges the fact that Steam can change, too. She hopes he can, it’s outlined in her tweet. But considering his recent racist tweet was this month, I don’t think he’s changed much from last time he made racist remarks.

No. 102337


I can tell he’s pissed off at the treatment he gets and the privilege they get, along with all the other political matters. But he way he states in his tweets, he’s implying all Chinese are racist scum, and that’s not something to be taken lightly.

No. 102338


Eh, if it’s comfortable to her to express herself like that I don’t see the problem, unless you believe she’s faking it or over exaggerating it

I wouldn’t mind anyone with DID calling themselves we to feel better, to be honest. But to agree with earlier anons the way she talks about her did seems like a joke…

No. 102339

>nazi outfit
he said that was from his high school years when he's a dumb edgy lil shit, he had to do community service 'coz of that patch

he's still edgy today though, if anything i'm surprised people are only finding out he stans shadman

No. 102343

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where's the 28k, aki.

No. 102344

That's basically a meme at this point. 'Where's the 28k aki'

i don't know why you think he needs to be punished for being edgy. most people in the western vocaloid community make edgy shit, he can at least do it well.

circus p was an edgelord before he fully committed to making shitty edm songs with the laziest pvs and most boring subject matter cough 1/4 cough warning signs

No. 102348

Using pedophilia for edge points with no point is just nasty. Who the fuck writes a song about a "friendly child molester" with no real message besides "haha pedo halloween amirite wow spooky the candy is his dick welcome to my twizted mind i got a fucked up sense of humor you could say ;)", and then tries to pass it off as a "warning"?
There's transcendent art that happens to be about dark topics, and then there's cheap shock value BS.
I know the western Vocaloid fandom is mostly mentally stunted weebs, but can they not raise their artistic standards even a bit? Be less embarrassing? You can be edgy, but at least put some actual thought into your work.

No. 102367


I quite liked 1/4's music and simplicity though. Kaito's voice sucked but it was a nice song imo. Warning Signs though was just pretty lame except for some parts of the music

No. 102368



No. 102370

Actually everyone what are your thoughts on the LamazeP pedo controversy?

No. 102371

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No. 102375

Elaborate? His songs have always seemed pedo-ish

No. 102376

He posted a song three years ago that was basically a mock eroge opening with all the little girl voicebanks. He got very belatedly "cancelled" for it, but it seems like not many people care that much.

No. 102378

suddenly people are finding out about asia outside japan and korea kek

No. 102385

Agreed with the other anon, he seems like a lolicon in secret but his songs are harmless and I don't care as long as he keeps that nasty stuff to himself and leaves rl kids alone.

No. 102386


Honestly everyone in the story is an asshole except for Shius.

No. 102392


no Shius is an asshole too for defending Steam's racism and saying it's blatant facts. There's a difference between facts that some people of an ethnicity are being cunts and generalising that all of them are scum

No. 102396

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I don't think Steampianist is generalizing tbh

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Also some context on that guys tweets defending steampianist

No. 102400

I mean I fully agree that Ghost already uses their allerged DID as an excuse for being shitty, but that person sounds like a suicide-baiting and attention starved narcissistic cow themselves.

No. 102404

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samefag but
>pinned callout post only has 4 likes in total, the OP of the ghost one has only 2 likes, no retweets or mentions besides their own
>5 hours later
These kind of people shouldn't be allowed to use the internet.

No. 102407


The racism thread has responses tho, afaik everyone who tweeted support for Steampianist has been getting massive hate for it

No. 102412

Literally everybody mentioned in this thread is a horrible person. I don't care about their takes and call-outs on each other, it's like watching a slap fight between overgrown babies. I'm so exhausted with this ""community"" of clowns. Can we not get one single sane adult in this fandom?

No. 102417

All the sane adults leave when they see the fandom is run by crazies. Can you blame them?

No. 102419


The thing is, the sane adults stay mostly quiet unless they drop a song.

No. 102427

preach to the choir. and besides, that's just one song. i thought twaddles of a flue faker was pretty neat, for its pv and lyrics.

warning signs was basically just 'look guys a song with CHRIS now!'

i don't fucking know why circus is pretty much the go-to guy for demos.

No. 102429

Seeing how the Japanese vs. western fandoms evolved is so fascinating to me. Japan's community spent the last 10+ years blossoming into a vast network of talented artists and musicians, full of people of all ages who can actually make things.

Then you've got the dumbfuck American audience, which started out mostly as preteens with no skills and no talent, who did nothing but consume the content made by Japanese creatives and making none themselves. They had a decade to grow up and instead they just kept doing the same shit they did when they were 12, except now with more fat trans headcanons and stupid drama.

There's Japanese producers that have been on the scene since the beginning because they're surrounded by a community that fosters good will towards its creatives. The western fandom is so toxic and childish it chases anyone away who isn't also toxic and childish.

No. 102434

You're right about japanese producers being generally superior, but let's not glorify it and pretend like they don't also cause drama, harass creators and go batshit with it.

No. 102470

Yeah, unfortunately, the Japanese fandom is also criticized a lot for being toxic and childish. It just had a decade-plus of doujin culture to fall back on from the beginning. The western fandom keeps struggling to build it all from scratch and kneecapping itself.

No. 102490

>japan good, murica (overseas) bad
ok weeaboo

it's amusing how weebs think Japan is a utopia of no conflict/drama just because they can't read what's going on

No. 102510

>do they draw this shit and slap a fandom label on it to get more likes or something?
Yes, that's pretty much the reason why.

No. 102522


Chris was decently tuned but the music was meh. Nice instrumentation, just bland though in composition

No. 102523


All right then. It’s good he at least acknowledged it but he should’ve at least gone into better detail.

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I don’t know if he’s changed though. This is pretty shit and I agree with ghost on this one.

No. 102527


I’ve seen 12-14 year olds act more mature than them, they just don’t know how to formulate a basic argument other than screaming and being over dramatic as fuck.

No. 102528

Everyone sucks here, admit it. None of them are in the right here.

No. 102804

If he doesn't like real kids he's not a pedo, I couldn't give less of a fuck about drawings(even if I find them gross)

No. 102805

Yeah, because the western vocaloid fandom is just so amazing and not cow-filled. No one said it's bad just because it's not Japanese.

No. 102814


I agree, drawings and actual children are different, I know people who like those drawings but hate children.

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No. 102900

Can you give more context? I can't tell what's going on from that tweet alone.

No. 102902



the dude calls out his ex for various things, but seems like people aren't buying it, including crusher, who heard of the daulton drama

No. 102908

What's funny about this is that he's dating a minor

No. 102909

Man how are you going to call out someone as a pedo for dating a 15 year old at 18, when you went out and dated a 15 year old at 22? I'm not going to say he's lying, but he should've seen this coming.

No. 102913

So far from what I am getting from this is that he's just starting drama to cover up the fact he's dating a minor????

No. 102974


he locked his acc,

if anyone on here follows them, why not leak the stuff he posts now

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No. 103083

Maybe, if you'd explain who tf that guy is.

What is it with all the fucking furry pfps. Every 3rd vocaloid twitter I see, there is one.

No. 103092


he's the guy who dated daulton, who is a minor who pretends to be 21, and to make it worse, he was defending himself dating daulton saying it was legal at the time of them dating

No. 103109

No, who are these people in context with vocaloid?

No. 103119

ngl this whole daulton thing smells like vendetta to me ever since the last thread. Every time I turn around some anon is going "b-but what about DAULTON" and everyone else is like "who?"

Either provide actual milk & pics of it or shut the fuck up

No. 103121


Thibaud, aka vy1v5, some french utau/vocaloid user with a small following, though they seem to be aiming to get in touch the community again. He tried to callout his ex, after that Hanabi/Lizzy drama ended up getting lots of traction

maybe not a big lolcow, but he is a presence in the fandom like other users


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Well, Shay also said that she had been (self)diagnosed with dpdr and BDD in her edgy teenage phase (which now is perpetual for her), so it's no longer a surprise to see her saying that DID is now the new escape goat for her shitty person, and this attitude of her has never changed unfortunately.
This. She used to be pretty decent as an amateurish composer, many of her scrapped works are x10 times more interesting than her new tastless shit, even her oldfags point that out.

No. 103208

As far as mediocre producers go, shay could be a lot worse. At least her shit actually vaguely resembles music, which can't be said for a lot of the other "producers" in the community.

No. 103260


all her songs before In Iolite actually showed decent composition and a decent structure in chords and melody etc. then she just discovered rocks and thunderstorms and turned everything into a mess to try and be edgy but it's barely listenable like what the fuck is spider on the wall

No. 103288

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first time posting here. wanted to bring attention to someone who has really risen in the vocaloid cosplay community who needs called out on their shit. mikumeeks said she was “quitting cosplay” because of the community and threw a shitfit… because she was exposed for scamming LOADS of people so she could buy miku expo tickets.
an expose was made on her in a Facebook sale group, but one of the admins got it under control. here’s screenshots of the interaction anyways - I didn’t persist because the admin who sorted it contacted me.

tldr: personal grudge against someone who got called out for being shit, tried to make herself the victim and was going to “quit cosplay” over people rightfully wanting money back”, and now has risen massively in the community

side note: i don’t agree with my behaviour in these screenshots. only putting them for proof this was a thing that happened.(Newfaggotry, lolcow does not exist for callout culture. Do not try to use lolcow for your vendetta or to "cancel" someone. We do not interact with the cows, only observe)

No. 103353

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this is autistic as fuck but maybe we'll get some milk (1/2)

No. 103354

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No. 103355

Link me, anon, I need to see this list.

No. 103356

No. 103357

There is barely anything on this list and no screenshots or evidence to boot. What the fuck is anyone supposed to take from this?

No. 103363

Yeah the list itself is a big nothingburger, can't believe it took OP 3 months to produce. The only notable thing about it is how a bunch of fandom attention whores are overreacting to it.

No. 103373

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dumbest shit I've ever seen in my life. kek at "sporadic behavior, potentially hostile", sounds like a description for a fucking SCP

There is absolutely no proof or receipts, and below this is an area where the creator just lists every single user in some discord server for "gatekeeping" because "they all deserve to be held accountable"

Losers trying to smear other losers for drama points in a dying fandom that literally no one but the people involved know exists. These people themselves are the funniest cows.

No. 103428

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They're still trying to make this trainwreck happen… Now the accusations have more detail, but they're actively refusing to share receipts of anything that's not common knowledge.

I guess we're supposed to trust their "vetting process". Where they marked someone as being a high risk pedophile over drawing porn, and marked a known sexual harasser as "very safe" because he sent them one nice message.

No. 103461

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Samefag but lmfao someone is threatening to sue OP for calling him a liar

No. 103462

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No. 103469

This is SO fucking funny. The vocdeliquent retard accuses someone of a federal crime in their obscure drama list and the person they accused is also retarded enough to harass them threatening to SUE them… it's just too good. I hope this blows up more because the milk from both sides would be truly delicious.

No. 103496


uwu! uwu! owo! senpai! uwu! úwù! law! court! smart brain! uwu! uwu!

fucking 10 year old

No. 103531

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"high risk pedophilic behavior" = "femboy addiction"

No. 103532

This reads like the navy seal pasta.

No. 103534

how can you write out something like this and not realize "holy shit, i sound like a fucking insane person"

No. 103551

Tinfoil, but hear me out. I almost feel like this account is run by some degenerate who got called out and is mad about it, so they made this account and are acting as stupid as possible and accusing random people of serious offenses in hopes that it blows up, people see how stupid the list & account is, and decide to stop taking accusations of abuse and crimes within the community seriously? Like the boy who cried wolf sort of thing.

The reason I think this is because the way they are acting and typing is very strange and unnatural, even for the vocautau community. For example, @-ing users they previously accused to tell them they have been REMOVED from the list, and ending the announcement with cutesy tildes and a party emoji? Any person serious about making a list like this would not see removing people from it as a cause for celebration, because it would reflect badly on them since it suggests they have been making false accusations. If anything, they would be much more likely to try and sweep their blunder under the rug so as to not lose credibility… So them continuously @-ing people they accuse makes no sense and it reads as if they are really trying to make this blow up. Thoughts?

No. 103593

This is probably a stretch, but I believe VocDelinquents is probably run by Reson Lore. 80% of the people originally on the spreadsheet have been detailed of "harassing" him in the past. One of his white knights posted this a while back where you can see the list https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sr5e13

Although this isn't definitive proof it's run by him, looks like most replies to VocaDelinquents already think it's him anyways.

No. 103976

literally who

No. 104123

Were you perhaps touched as a child

No. 104124

GHOST is literally the most manipulative and drama thirsty vocaloid cow I've seen to date. The way she jumped to this discourse as fast as she could speaks for itself. I sense some jealousy over a better producer here.

No. 104141

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Not to "Hi cow", but that's pretty unoriginal, especially if you've had like 4 years to come up with a decent response, kek.

No. 104144

NTA, but do you wish you were molested so you could relate? Were you too much of an ugly fuck back then for that to happen? God, imagine that - being too hideous even for that.

No. 104149

Can you two go somewhere else to write your shotacon fanfiction or something

tbh I'm surprised it took this long for him to be cancelled when this tweet has been up for so many years. Totally tasteless way to respond no matter how you spin it

No. 104150

No need to project. I'm just trying to find out what makes someone so obsessed with child sexual abuse that they write songs about it, and try to sniff out victims to mock. Envious femcel type shit.

No. 104208


lulziest replies i've seen in awhile anon you triggered these girls bad lmao, how embarrassing

No. 104230

>still no sage
>"h-heh triggered"
You okay, girl? Sounds like a nerve was struck.

No. 104250

found the troon. note of advice: don't reveal your weakness online, pussy, your anger makes you an easy target(derailing)

No. 104275

Now I'm a troon? What a reach. I can smell the rejected pussy transplant from here, scrote. Fuck off back to your rat hole. Sorry people didn’t like your emo weeaboo child rape music
You want to accuse anyone of troonery, try pointing a finger at the staff lol

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No. 104451

Not to tinfoil, but I wouldn't be suprised if these vocaloid fags are shitting up this thread on purpose so that it hits post limit and we stop talking about them. They aren't used to criticism at all and think it's bullying, they cry and do anything to silence it.

No. 104481

What are you fucking talking about? Drop the hostility and ignore the fucking sperg, you headcase.

No. 104632


she probably is jealous but again steam was a piece of shit for what he did. god why is almost everyone in the western vocaloid community a cunt tbh

No. 104633


kys you pedo lmao

No. 104635

>replying to a 4-day-old post
>not knowing how to sage
Why are "pedophile!1!!!!" fags like this?

No. 104689

because they're 12 years old

No. 104697


this was said on the other thread: all the sane decent people run away when they see the fandom is full of delusional fucks

No. 104702


how is she manipulative?

No. 104705


just shut the fuck up jfc

No. 104708

VOCALOID was a mistake.

No. 104714


Just look at her interactions



No. 104715


how can you say something like this and not wonder if you're fucking retarded

No. 104716


yeah I still listen to her older shit, it's decent.

There's no way she could have DID tho. You don't fucking get to that stage in life without knowing you dissociate, especially if she has diagnosed BPD. It doesn't add up.

No. 104717


1/4 was pretty good, but after that everything just went to shit for circus and then all the edgy, self diagnosed retards like creep rose to fame

speaking of which, it's a while since we touched on Creep, any new milk?

No. 104718


not much apart from the fact that his music is incomprehensible and he's fucking shilling his shit and doesn't pay his artists or tuners(samefag)

No. 104719

Genuinely curious: Is there much utaite milk here?

No. 104724

unrelated: Is shipping LenRin considered problematic™ nowadays, or are people who engage with it on thin ice? I haven’t stepped one foot in the Vocaloid fandom since the new fandom culture broke out. Like you could ship LenRin years ago and the only detractors would be harmless, “NO LENMIKU/NERULEN FTW, LEN AND RIN ARE BASIcally TWINS” and they’d calm down when you tell them they aren’t. Now you could do something like ship Miku and Luka, aged up or not, and you’d probably get a bunch of 15 year olds in your replies calling you a pedo.

No. 104725


Yes I'd say it still is. Literally every ship is bashed on in the Vocaloid fandom now for being pedophilia, incest, age gap, unhealthy, abuse, whatever people can come up with. Even if you say you see Rin and Len as not twins, they'll accuse you of normalising incest and then bitch all over your profile/posts/whatever

No. 104726

I'm not defending GHOST's shitty behaviour but I don't think she's lying about her DID, considering the history she's revealed on their Twitter, and some of the things she mentioned she went through are shocking in general.

No. 104727


I've seen it too, and it sounds terrible for any child to go through, and I'm sorry for her and all but you're missing the point. It doesn't excuse her problematic behaviour and the fact she gaslit people and manipulated them. I do wonder whether she'll stick to her apology though…

No. 104728

New fandom is cancer, anything that isn't black fat trans Miku in a hijab and MikuRin is problematic. If you can avoid getting back into it, don't

No. 104747

Anything that isn't MikuRin is problematic
its literally canon cuz project diva uwuwu, if you like mikuluka or kaitolen you're a pedo, if you like mikulen you're a lesbophobe for shipping a straight ship instead of these two kawaii black trans muslim lesbian jews

No. 104767

caps or stfu. You sound like ghost stans from twitter

No. 104769




He opened join to his channel, not much.


A bit of the Naku/Kuro thing but not much, unless anyone has anything to contribute.

No. 104770

Unrelated, but does anyone here think JubyPhonic absolutely fucking sucks? Her autotuned pitched up voice is torture to listen to and she's stealing all the attention from the original producers and she's literally asking for donations to find new covers.

No. 104771


Just stfu, nobody cares. She maybe has it. She maybe doesn't. There's still decency in every person and she doesn't show it. We're not giving her a pass because of her past, you sound like another of her asskissers

No. 104772

I agree, even Google credits her as the creator of Patchwork Staccato instead of toa, it's annoying. Why would she even need money to make covers?
One of my favorite Japanese producers collaborated with her, I wonder how and why(her vocals don't fit the song well)

No. 104787

Her voice is the most blatantly auto tuned I’ve ever seen out of any mainstream youtaite. It’s uncanny how filtered her voice sounds in every cover. She sounds like she’s singing from a tin can.

No. 104791


Some of her translyrics are all right, but it's like she pitches her voice up by a whole octave and does the cute kawaii baby™ voice, also the donation thing makes no sense

No. 104794


Which one was it?

No. 104805

The only reason her translyrics are half-decent is because she uses other people's translations for them.

JubyPhonic and Rachie sound the same to me and neither of them are that good, it's just the uwu irl anime voice that gets them attention.

No. 104831

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What the hell, did these motherfuckers really just coopt the sacred oldfag ship?
Fucking newfags, I bet they don't even know Doki Doki☆Yuri Gakuen. GET YOUR FILTHY HANDS OFF MY NOSTALGIA SHIP

No. 104832

I personally think her English lyrics are mostly top tier with the rhyming and flow consistent with the original Japanese one, but her voice is admittedly sort of grating. I don't have a problem with her though, I just wish someone else was singing her lyrics.

No. 104948

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I know some anons brought this up on the previous thread already

OP's reaching on some posts but that Change Me Meiko pic definitely has stolen the background from Rella's art


No. 104961

Is it just me or she's singing a few notes higher than the instrumental/kind of offkey?

No. 105097

>JubyPhonic and Rachie sound the same to me

This. I've thought this for the longest. They literally sound exactly alike and when they collab I can't tell either of their shrill, annoying voices apart.

No. 105544

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god remember the point in the vocaloid fandom when everyone agreed that rin and len's relationship status is completely up to interpretation and it's perfectly fine to see them as siblings or lovers

what the hell happened to that. literally why is every fandom like this nowadays

No. 105584

>literally why is every fandom like this nowadays
Ship wars that got out of control + really bored people who found a way to gain clout without much effort.

No. 105607

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Creep-P is dropping all of their vocal synth work.

No. 105617

File: 1595068618351.png (23.78 KB, 641x176, creep-p.png)

He spoke about this on Twitter too. Looks like he's pretty much done with the vocal synth community, but will still be making music. I saw this coming, especially with how much he's said he didn't want to be a called a VocaP for a while.

I don't personally give a fuck about his obnoxious ass or his shitty music, but good for him I guess.

No. 105693

and nothing of value was lost

No. 105779

>dropping vocaloid
>creating music for adults
so uhhh, he's committing career suicide?

No. 105869

No. 105876

Unrelated but Misha should be labelled as a cow by now

No. 105883

any of those people who voiced Dex, Daina, and Ruby to be honest.

No. 105907


what's so bad about nostraightanswer compared to Aki?

No. 106041

If turning the smallest thing into an hour long sperg was a superpower, he would be a superhero

No. 106073

So what? He's going to go through the trouble of finding real people to sing his songs?

It's fine if he doesn't want to be associated with the vocaloid community anymore (honestly who would in this day and age) but it's still convenient as a singing program. There's still plenty of engloids that have no real identity and are just voices (cyva, cyan, chris, amy, miriam, etc.)

Also imo he should just stick to making insturmentals. He's really great at making normal music, but songs and lyrics not so much.

No. 106074

>He's really great at making normal music
are we talking about the same person? creep's instrumentals are literally the most discordant shit i've heard in my life.

the problem about doing vocaloid is that you kinda pigeonhole yourself into the vocaloid community (unless you're like, porter robinson or something i guess). that was good for creep because his shit has literally no appeal whatsoever unless you're an edgy weeb tween.

now that he's not doing vocaloid, who the fuck is he making music for? normal people don't like the sound of a fat autist banging on a midi keyboard. dude's gonna crash and burn and it will be hilarious.

No. 106653

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who's next?

No. 106665


What's the big deal about it?

No. 106671


Why's he still keeping the -P suffix though? Isn't that strictly for Vocaloid producers?

Also, what was the P suffix trend ever for anyway

No. 106673


Rachie isn't milky tho?

No. 106678

Is this because she mostly covers songs using the officially released instrumentals? Doing that while asking for money always seems sketchy to me.

No. 106679

It comes from the (irl) idol business, unfortunately. The dudes who write songs for idol groups have P names

No. 106682

Ghost and Lauren made apology #2 for Candle Queen.

No. 106683


Eh, it seems pretty logical to me. I don't get why everyone got so butthurt over the lyrics though, the song was good considering it was Lauren who wrote it and not Ghost. If they genuinely mean their apology though then that's good. I'm still wary though

No. 106684


Has JubyPhonic been demonetised yet

No. 106687

Im not even sure the apology was needed especially when the song never specifically stated “by the way, fuck people with NPD”. Abusive people still exist and I don’t think a few people getting butthurt should warrant artists to stop talking about them.

No. 106693


Overall the apology isn't really needed but isn't really much to talk about or milky imo

No. 106698


I literally can't see how the fuck CQ's lyrics are ableist. It's just about an abuser and shitty person who ends up being alone in the end due to their actions. There's literally nothing about npd/bpd in it and it's your fault if you choose to interpret it that way. If anything the drama, apology, etc. is just attention seeking.

No. 106842


To me, it seems like most of the vocaloid fandom can't stand songs about characters with the slightest flaws and immediately cancel the producers. Producer writes a song about a pedophile? Must mean they're a pedophile! Producer writes a song about an abuser? Must mean they're an abuser! Producer writes a song about a shitty person in general who got karma? They're ableist and disgusting and rude uwu! The people who call them out are also all fucktarded 13 year olds

No. 106895

>the word piss is in the song
ghost at the beginning of her song: trigger warning!!! contains swearing AND MENTIONS OF BODILY FLUIDS!!!111 WATCH WITH CAutiON

No. 106897

That's just what fandom culture is like now. Making content about subject matter = condoning the subject matter, to these people. Everyone has lost the ability to think critically about a single fucking thing in their lives.

I think about how edgy and grimdark the Vocaloid fandom used to be in like, 2010 and wonder how the fuck these people even got here. I know a lot of them are 12 so they're too young to remember it but it's wild that it never occurred to them.

No. 106947


This. It's like you're not allowed to write a song about any negative topic these days or the 14 year olds will spam your inbox calling you a pedo, incest shipper, rapist, whatever. CQ is a decent song, and there's nothing wrong with writing a song about someone with that backstory. It's a tragic character, and gtf over it.

No. 106977


It's funny because the topic of it is vague and just about an asshole person in general. It never stated anything along the lines of "npd and bpd people are disgusting and deserve no help and support". Some vocaloid fans are bigger cows than any creators

No. 106985

they recognize themselves in it and that makes them upset because it reminds them how shitty they are

No. 106992

Remember when underage autistic fandom spergs tried to cancel Kikuo for having drawn a comic about experiencing sexual abuse as a child? These cunts be listening to his dark songs and then are shocked when he draws about the same subject matter his lyrics have already gone through. Dense, stupid fucks. And he couldn't even speak English so he could explain how drawing or writing about a trauma =/= approving of if. It's one thing that westerners have their retarded cancelling drama but entirely another when the one they're attacking can barely even understand what they're saying.

No. 107030

Fucking good. Bitch has been profiting off of content that doesn't belong to her for way too long.

No. 107032

i assume you’re talking about the tiktok retards who are trying to cancel kikuo again lol

No. 107044

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This is what I don't legit get. Why do people get so offended when artists explore dark subjects?

What is the difference between fetishisation/romantization and just expressing yourself, and why are people so obtuse to understand it nowadays?

Example, this is a drawing of an underage girl. People can cancel Kikuo just for that.

No. 107046

It's trendy and they do it for clout. It's as simple as that. Nothing gets you retweets faster than trying to cancel someone with a big follower base by yelling whatever problematic buzzword is in today. If they actually gave a shit they'd go after the numerous confirmed child abusers and MAPs online, it's not like they're hard to fucking find.

No. 107048

That drawing's not by Kikuo, it's by si_ku, who's a woman. Also how can you be so sure the girl is underage? I'll give you props though, it does sound like something an underage Twitter user would write in an uninformed call out post.

No. 107049

Yeah, that was the point, I think calling out someone for a drawing like this is nuts

No. 107051

>how can you be so sure the girl is underage?
Oh, don't you know, anon? All women who are of a short stature, or have a small frame, or have small breasts, or have little-to-no hip definition are obviously catering to pedophiles with their features. Aside from the fact that many adult women have these traits, of course.

No. 107066

My favourite is when people call obvious adult Asian women "children" if they have less shapely bodies and a smaller stature. It's happened so many times it's not even funny anymore. You need to have at least a C-cup and a 1:2 waist-hip ratio to be an adult woman.

No. 107102

>The people who call them out are also all fucktarded 13 year olds

No. 107106


have they actually cancelled him for it yet or is it just a possibility? it's pretty cool art tbh, literally cannot see how anyone could see it as pedophilia considering in Japan, nudity isn't inherently sexual, just to represent innocence and just body beauty in general.

No. 107107

I think it was mentioned in a previous thread but some kid attempted to but it went nowhere. I think kikuo explained himself and then the clout chaser was harassed into apologizing for well… clout chasing.

No. 107251


that's a bit of an exaggeration. some of the topics she puts tws on do make sense

or am I missing something here

No. 107600

These threads are a blessing

No. 107742

Apparently MARETU is a predator? Does anyone have any context or thoughts on this?

No. 107743

old milk discussed in the first thread
tl;dr he cheated on his girlfriend with a 19 year old (technically under the age of consent where they lived) and she accused him of abuse

No. 107763

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Ghost deactivated their twitter, probably as damage control for the Candle Queen apology

No. 107770

What a weird solution. Anyone else think she's blowing shit out of proportion? I haven't seen anyone exploding in unrelenting SJW anger over Candle Queen in years. It seems like she's blowing all this drama up herself, but I can't figure out why.

No. 107773


eh, I don't give a shit. If she's leaving to avoid her fanbase then honestly that's a good move for her if she wants to be better, and also her fans are rabid fucking asshole fucktards so wouldn't blame her

No. 107779

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She said in a reply to a comment that it's to reverse the parasocial relationships between her and her fans or something like that. I do remember her complaining recently on Twitter about how toxic her fandom has become so I think that's her primary motivation. It may also be an attempt to control her venting/oversharing addiction though. For example, she posted this the day before.

I agree, it's a very good move and it will help her a lot, but she's very impulsive and rarely sticks to her decisions so she'll probably be back in a few months, maybe even less.

No. 107785


"hi i'm an alcoholic" makes me cackle because that's the exact thing people are calling her out for, spreading the message to her young fans that drinking culture is cool and romanticised? "hi i'm an alcoholic osdd1b/did system" god she just makes osdd1b people look like a joke and also I thought she said she's been professionally diagnosed. You're either one or the other.

Yeah it's a good move, but she probably will

No. 107786


can she fucking type normally for once? she's got mental disorders yes but pretty sure you can still use proper grammar and punctuation and capitalisation for fuck's sake regardless of that

No. 107806

Cackling at anybody who actually buys this or think she’s serious about it. This is the same bitch who deletes her own well-loved songs without warning just to get people to freak out and ask her what’s wrong. Everything she does is a calculated (sometimes poorly) move to get more attention. Hence “apologizing” for an old song no one gives a shit about just to stir up sympathy, bringing up the fact that she’s a uwu mentally ill ““system”” all the time, and now, claiming that she’s leaving the Internet. This is just a regular part of what she does.

No. 107850


honestly she's not even milky anymore, it's just a repeated cycle lmao, let's just wait and see

No. 107875

Lol what. What can I search to find this drama? That’s ridiculous

No. 108403

I know this has been mentioned but it's hilarious how a huge percentage of the fandom is 16+ year olds who should have common sense that call out pedophilia in ships but don't so shit when minors get groomed in the community and when there's literal 14 year olds dating 22 year olds and it's just fucking stupid how they refuse to educate themselves on anything and never can have civilised debates and learn to empathise. Recently the Vocaloid fandom has surged in pedophile jokes like "I wanna fuck Una's bb 11 yo ass" I kid you not(necro)

No. 108440


anon do you realise this is common knowledge now lmao

No. 108487

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"I know this has been mentioned" then why do you mention it again. If you don't have anything to add at least sage.

Changing the topic, does anyone know what this is about? She said this group is a "facet of the vocaloid community", so I doubt she means this site. And also accused this group of driving two producers (ghost and creep I assume) out of twitter. My gut tells me it's just the same old shit again but I have hope that it's at least a bit interesting this time.

No. 108493


Well it can't be this site since we're not really interacting with them and just pointing out their shitty behaviour. I'm assuming this is related to the Ghost drama somehow or just for clout because Ghost wasn't chased or bullied, they did it on their own accord and maybe it's a good move if they want to change, and Creep left on his own will too. It's probably for clout but if they're making up more drama the milk might be delicious

No. 108518

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I've investigated a bit and apparently some minors were critizicing/"harassing" other minors because making edgy songs is ableist now? So yeah same shit as always. What I don't get is why they say it was kids being harassed but ghost was affected by it too? And to the point of deactivating her Twitter account lmao. If I find the "harassers" they're talking about I'll post more screencaps here

No. 108519

File: 1596970083553.jpg (170.8 KB, 720x631, lol.jpg)

No, they say ghost left because of these people, so it isn't only about her. Apparently this teenager RIP (he's 16 iirc) was also attacked and he got depressed and privatized all his YouTube videos for like a night (What's with these people and their tendency to DFE whenever they're in trouble?). Maybe when they talked about "minors being harassed" they meant him.
(Btw the Shay in the screenshot is not ghost, they just have the same name)

No. 108526


RIP is a girl. She's not really a big deal, her music's pretty talented for starting at around 12-13, but istg all the producers like her who are part of Ghost's group just have this mentality of running away probably for attention and uwu points. But eh, RIP isn't much of a topic here.

In general why the fuck doesn't that Shay call someone out? It just creates more drama when they talk about it but don't specify what's going on.

No. 108550

> In general why the fuck doesn't that Shay call someone out? It just creates more drama when they talk about it but don't specify what's going on.

Because her goal is drama. It functions like a career steroid for her since her audience of young impressionable cancel culture Twitter activists fall for the drama hook line and sinker and uncritically glorify her as a victim uwu and stan her even harder.

She used to do this same thing when she had her tumblr. She’d passively incite her fanbase of flying monkeys to go harass anyone who spoke critically about her music and then when confronted about it, take no responsibility for her stirring of the pot and lean further into her victim act.

No. 108571

I think the Shay the anon meant was the one in the screenshot, not ghost.

I do agree that vague-tweeting and not talking about the problem directly is quite annoying. They say it's because they don't want these people to be harassed but how the hell is the community supposed to know who to avoid/hold accountable then? And how the hell are we supposed to know who to laugh at?! They're making everything needlessly complicated.

No. 108619

Because people who see anime characters as real life are fucking retarded. Of course the type of weird child who makes callout posts to defend the honor of a drawing won't give a shit about real children being hurt.

No. 108746

Anime characters aren't real retard. Making jokes like that would get you cancelled by a flock of 13 year olds instantly & the fandom is full of pedophiles/child abusers because the pedos lay low while they try to paint adult cosplayers and artists as "literal child abusers!1" for saying Miku is hot

No. 108761

Wasn't Ghost triggered by Vocaloid Callouts as she made a tweet about them before leaving more drama?

Also, as far I know Ghost and R.I.P previously had troubles with a bunch of people that recovered ghostiep/marzmitzi songs and shit. Vocallouts also exposed the unnecessary compulsive need of Ghost to purge her works.

No. 108896

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Pretty much. Except now no one can access Vocallouts’ twitter cause they literally deleted their account. At least keep your shit up, hiding it is more suspicious.

Ghost did say something about a wip that leaked and was circulating from their Patreon (?) idk how much that really matters their old songs being leaked and reuploaded is nothing new

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