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GHOST>uses garageband for a majority of her music, knows nothing about music theory>""""nonbinary"""">Deletes own songs without notice for attention, "muh depression">Swarms of 13 y/o fans who idolize her>horrible tumblr art>claims to have DID, now, apparently.https://www.youtube.com/c/GHOST_AND_PALShttps://ghostandpals.tumblr.com/https://ghost-and-pals.deviantart.com/
Aki Glancy/ EmpathP>Mediocre producer who got to live our her fantasy of becoming a vocaloid>Spearheaded VOCAMERICA. Enough said>Still has not delivered on the stretch goals for a related kickstarter. Where's the 22k Aki?>Instead, uses the money to create unbelievably shitty XXXXL sized vocaloid cosplays to parade her obese body around inhttps://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmvmOALS_lj0ZD7Mg7AD7aQhttps://twitter.com/AkiGlancyhttps://www.deviantart.com/akiglancy
Hazuki No Yume and TheBlackCero>vocaloid subbers, got into a fight with rachie, circus-p and some irrelevant utaites>basically they said the hazuki and cero were just reuploading videos>apparently rachie stole hazuki's translyrics, and cero is mad because "hazuki's japanese skills are superior">cero goes on large twitter rants and just can't fucking let it go>hazuki "retires", and ultimately just leaves and deletes all their accounts. Says she wants vocaloid wikis to delete all her translations.>cero is mad that people are reuploading hazuki's videos, because hazuki is the fuCKING bESThttps://twitter.com/TheBlackCerohttps://hazukinoyume.wordpress.com/
I'm all for unique instrumentation but she just is the textbook definition of insane edgy when it comes to her music now. I agree, her older songs were decent, but now it's just factory sounds, especially entomologists, such a forgettable and muddy song, and what the fuck was the mess that was spider on the wall
Also I don't care if she has DID or not, either way it doesn't excuse her being an funnie boi about it. I get that it may have made her make some irrational decisions in the past and if she's genuine then sure I'll take her apology but even after that apology she's still so self centred and in the clouds with her fans and treats them like her pawns in the comments
Not surprising. They worship everything she does. I hate cancel culture but I don't think Ghost has changed much at all especially since she accused Steampianist of being a pedophile and got her fans to witch-hunt him. She's still immature as fuck and I've seen 13-14 year olds act a thousand times more mature and responsible than her.
also unrelated but I went on her curious cat and she supports he/him lesbians lmfao
They claim it's "pedophilia" and harming children and then harass the artist to death. Yes, fiction can affect reality but when actual minors get harassed and groomed and preyed on by actual pedophiles, they ain't saying shit. Really proves how hypocritical over half of the western community is, no wonder the Japanese side of the vocaloid community doesn't want much to do with it
Also we should make that Naku person a big cow tbh
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this was already posted on the bad art thread, but I think it belongs here too. Supposed to be Luka and Meiko.
that meiko looks like a mexican grandma. they BOTH look like mexican grandmas.
what's the point of butchering a character's appearance this badly? why not just make an oc? do they draw this shit and slap a fandom label on it to get more likes or something?
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I don’t like GHOST but I’ll have to say I personally am on her side for this one
At best I can maybe see him guilty of racism, but the claims about him being a pedophile are complete bullshit.
His songs aren't 'glorifying' child predators, I don't get where people come to that conclusion. Yes, he writes songs about them, but shay also wrote a saga about a deranged mother (who's personality stems from a misogynistic trope) obsessing over her son, and then his equally deranged wife (who shay really specifies to have synesthesia, which is important i guess) murders him out of 'anxiety'.
him owning a nazi outfit really isn't that big a deal. i don't know why people are blowing that out of proportion so much. in karakuri burst len wears an outfit with a swastika on it, yet Hitoshizuku-P and Yama△ remain free of criticism, as far as i'm aware.
also that last point. "i can't find any evidence myself of him using the n word". shut the fuck up if you don't have evidence.
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so is ghost seriously going to start referring to herself as "we"…
the racism is pretty disgusting though. also meh, I don't think she glorified it that much and she's mentioned how she doesn't want to be associated with communications and acknowledges it was shit.>>102322
anon I think that we means she and all her followers should work together as one and a "we".
they're not glorifying them but it still isn't the best move to write a song about a real person and the pain it caused her family after her death. it's kind of insensitive imo.
I'm not defending ghost much but at least her storyline was fictional and she now admits it was shit.
Yeah, communications was shit. Not because it's themes were too dark, but because the subject matter wasn't handled well.
Again, if shay can recognize the subject matter she was writing about and realize it was morally wrong, i don't see why she can't come to the conclusion that steam can do the same. she's living in her own head.
but yeah you're right on his racism. though i've only seen him make those kinds of comments towards the chinese specifically.
That's pretty interesting, actually.
But again, would the fandom know or care if there was a situation where hitoshizuku and yama got cancelled? (hypothetically speaking)
I'm definitely taking Steampianist's side on the anti-China comments. Everyone should read up on how the Chinese treat Filipino people (and literally anyone who's not white) before forming an opinion on this. Westerners are stupid as fuck for projecting their relationship with China onto the whole world and assuming all opposition comes from the racist/white supremacist roots of their own culture.
The song about a child molester was trashy and tasteless, though, IMO. I haven't heard the murder song, but I have a feeling my opinion will be the same. Edgy content from a self-admitted edgelord. He deserves to get dragged for that, but everything else just seems like filler.
The "Nazi outfit" thing also clearly takes more inspiration from punk culture, and the spirit of being offensive, than any actual nod to Nazi ideology, so there's not much to call out there, besides the tastelessness (yet again). It's there for shock value, he literally rotated the Buddhist symbol.
I actually like and respect Ghost on a small level for acknowledging Communications was shit, so it’s understandable why she discontinued it. Her not saying that at the time she discontinued it wasn’t right, but at least she explained and apologised for the bad way she wrote it. I thought the music was decent, some parts were pretty catchy too, but even when I was a huge fan of hers it made me uncomfortable to a degree. Especially Kennith/Colorbars.
She acknowledges the fact that Steam can change, too. She hopes he can, it’s outlined in her tweet. But considering his recent racist tweet was this month, I don’t think he’s changed much from last time he made racist remarks.
Eh, if it’s comfortable to her to express herself like that I don’t see the problem, unless you believe she’s faking it or over exaggerating it
I wouldn’t mind anyone with DID calling themselves we to feel better, to be honest. But to agree with earlier anons the way she talks about her did seems like a joke…
he said that was from his high school years when he's a dumb edgy lil shit, he had to do community service 'coz of that patch
he's still edgy today though, if anything i'm surprised people are only finding out he stans shadman
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where's the 28k, aki.
That's basically a meme at this point. 'Where's the 28k aki'>>102339>>102335
i don't know why you think he needs to be punished for being edgy. most people in the western vocaloid community make edgy shit, he can at least do it well.
circus p was an edgelord before he fully committed to making shitty edm songs with the laziest pvs and most boring subject matter cough
Using pedophilia for edge points with no point is just nasty. Who the fuck writes a song about a "friendly child molester" with no real message besides "haha pedo halloween amirite wow spooky the candy is his dick welcome to my twizted mind i got a fucked up sense of humor you could say ;)", and then tries to pass it off as a "warning"?
There's transcendent art that happens to be about dark topics, and then there's cheap shock value BS.
I know the western Vocaloid fandom is mostly mentally stunted weebs, but can they not raise their artistic standards even a bit? Be less embarrassing? You can be edgy, but at least put some actual thought into your work.
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I don't think Steampianist is generalizing tbh
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Also some context on that guys tweets defending steampianist
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samefag but>pinned callout post only has 4 likes in total, the OP of the ghost one has only 2 likes, no retweets or mentions besides their own>"I'M GONNA LOG OUT NOW TO WATCH THIS BLOW OVER, SEE YOU IN A FEW WEEKS">5 hours later>"JUST WANNA SAY I UNFOLLED A BUNCH OF PEOPLE BECAUSE THEY ATTACKED MY MUTUALS!!"
These kind of people shouldn't be allowed to use the internet.
The thing is, the sane adults stay mostly quiet unless they drop a song.
preach to the choir. and besides, that's just one song. i thought twaddles of a flue faker was pretty neat, for its pv and lyrics. >>102367
warning signs was basically just 'look guys a song with CHRIS now!'
i don't fucking know why circus is pretty much the go-to guy for demos.
Yeah, unfortunately, the Japanese fandom is also criticized a lot for being toxic
and childish. It just had a decade-plus of doujin culture to fall back on from the beginning. The western fandom keeps struggling to build it all from scratch and kneecapping itself.
>>102429>japan good, murica (overseas) bad
it's amusing how weebs think Japan is a utopia of no conflict/drama just because they can't read what's going on
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I don’t know if he’s changed though. This is pretty shit and I agree with ghost on this one.
Yeah, because the western vocaloid fandom is just so
amazing and not cow-filled. No one said it's bad just because it's not Japanese.
he locked his acc,
if anyone on here follows them, why not leak the stuff he posts now
Maybe, if you'd explain who tf that guy is.>>102983
What is it with all the fucking furry pfps. Every 3rd vocaloid twitter I see, there is one.
ngl this whole daulton thing smells like vendetta to me ever since the last thread. Every time I turn around some anon is going "b-but what about DAULTON" and everyone else is like "who?"
Either provide actual milk & pics of it or shut the fuck up
Thibaud, aka vy1v5, some french utau/vocaloid user with a small following, though they seem to be aiming to get in touch the community again. He tried to callout his ex, after that Hanabi/Lizzy drama ended up getting lots of traction
maybe not a big lolcow, but he is a presence in the fandom like other usershttps://www.youtube.com/user/thibaud76200/videos
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Well, Shay also said that she had been (self)diagnosed with dpdr and BDD in her edgy teenage phase (which now is perpetual for her), so it's no longer a surprise to see her saying that DID is now the new escape goat for her shitty person, and this attitude of her has never changed unfortunately.>>102292
This. She used to be pretty decent as an amateurish composer, many of her scrapped works are x10 times more interesting than her new tastless shit, even her oldfags point that out.
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first time posting here. wanted to bring attention to someone who has really risen in the vocaloid cosplay community who needs called out on their shit. mikumeeks said she was “quitting cosplay” because of the community and threw a shitfit… because she was exposed for scamming LOADS of people so she could buy miku expo tickets.
an expose was made on her in a Facebook sale group, but one of the admins got it under control. here’s screenshots of the interaction anyways - I didn’t persist because the admin who sorted it contacted me.
tldr: personal grudge against someone who got called out for being shit, tried to make herself the victim and was going to “quit cosplay” over people rightfully wanting money back”, and now has risen massively in the community
side note: i don’t agree with my behaviour in these screenshots. only putting them for proof this was a thing that happened.(Newfaggotry, lolcow does not exist for callout culture. Do not try to use lolcow for your vendetta or to "cancel" someone. We do not interact with the cows, only observe)
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this is autistic as fuck but maybe we'll get some milk (1/2)
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dumbest shit I've ever seen in my life. kek at "sporadic behavior, potentially hostile", sounds like a description for a fucking SCP
There is absolutely no proof or receipts, and below this is an area where the creator just lists every single user in some discord server for "gatekeeping" because "they all deserve to be held accountable"
Losers trying to smear other losers for drama points in a dying fandom that literally no one but the people involved know exists. These people themselves are the funniest cows.
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They're still trying to make this trainwreck happen… Now the accusations have more detail, but they're actively refusing to share receipts of anything that's not common knowledge.
I guess we're supposed to trust their "vetting process". Where they marked someone as being a high risk pedophile over drawing porn, and marked a known sexual harasser as "very safe" because he sent them one nice message.
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Samefag but lmfao someone is threatening to sue OP for calling him a liar
uwu! uwu! owo! senpai! uwu! úwù! law! court! smart brain! uwu! uwu!
fucking 10 year old
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"high risk pedophilic behavior" = "femboy addiction"
Tinfoil, but hear me out. I almost feel like this account is run by some degenerate who got called out and is mad about it, so they made this account and are acting as stupid as possible and accusing random people of serious offenses in hopes that it blows up, people see how stupid the list & account is, and decide to stop taking accusations of abuse and crimes within the community seriously? Like the boy who cried wolf sort of thing.
The reason I think this is because the way they are acting and typing is very strange and unnatural, even for the vocautau community. For example, @-ing users they previously accused to tell them they have been REMOVED from the list, and ending the announcement with cutesy tildes and a party emoji? Any person serious about making a list like this would not see removing people from it as a cause for celebration, because it would reflect badly on them since it suggests they have been making false accusations. If anything, they would be much more likely to try and sweep their blunder under the rug so as to not lose credibility… So them continuously @-ing people they accuse makes no sense and it reads as if they are really trying to make this blow up. Thoughts?
This is probably a stretch, but I believe VocDelinquents is probably run by Reson Lore. 80% of the people originally on the spreadsheet have been detailed of "harassing" him in the past. One of his white knights posted this a while back where you can see the list https://www.twitlonger.com/show/n_1sr5e13
Although this isn't definitive proof it's run by him, looks like most replies to VocaDelinquents already think it's him anyways.
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Not to "Hi cow", but that's pretty unoriginal, especially if you've had like 4 years to come up with a decent response, kek.
Can you two go somewhere else to write your shotacon fanfiction or something>>104141
tbh I'm surprised it took this long for him to be cancelled when this tweet has been up for so many years. Totally tasteless way to respond no matter how you spin it
No need to project. I'm just trying to find out what makes someone so obsessed with child sexual abuse that they write songs about it, and try to sniff out victims
to mock. Envious femcel type shit.
lulziest replies i've seen in awhile anon you triggered
these girls bad lmao, how embarrassing
Now I'm a troon? What a reach. I can smell the rejected pussy transplant from here, scrote. Fuck off back to your rat hole. Sorry people didn’t like your emo weeaboo child rape music
You want to accuse anyone of troonery, try pointing a finger at the staff lol
Just look at her interactions >>104708
yeah I still listen to her older shit, it's decent.
There's no way she could have DID tho. You don't fucking get to that stage in life without knowing you dissociate, especially if she has diagnosed BPD. It doesn't add up.
1/4 was pretty good, but after that everything just went to shit for circus and then all the edgy, self diagnosed retards like creep rose to fame
speaking of which, it's a while since we touched on Creep, any new milk?
I've seen it too, and it sounds terrible for any child to go through, and I'm sorry for her and all but you're missing the point. It doesn't excuse her problematic
behaviour and the fact she gaslit people and manipulated them. I do wonder whether she'll stick to her apology though…
New fandom is cancer, anything that isn't black fat trans Miku in a hijab and MikuRin is problematic
. If you can avoid getting back into it, don't
Anything that isn't MikuRin is problematic
its literally canon cuz project diva uwuwu, if you like mikuluka or kaitolen you're a pedo, if you like mikulen you're a lesbophobe for shipping a straight ship instead of these two kawaii black trans muslim lesbian jews
He opened join to his channel, not much.>>104719
A bit of the Naku/Kuro thing but not much, unless anyone has anything to contribute.
I agree, even Google credits her as the creator of Patchwork Staccato instead of toa, it's annoying. Why would she even need money to make covers?
One of my favorite Japanese producers collaborated with her, I wonder how and why(her vocals don't fit the song well)
The only reason her translyrics are half-decent is because she uses other people's translations for them.
JubyPhonic and Rachie sound the same to me and neither of them are that good, it's just the uwu irl anime voice that gets them attention.
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What the hell, did these motherfuckers really just coopt the sacred oldfag ship?
Fucking newfags, I bet they don't even know Doki Doki☆Yuri Gakuen. GET YOUR FILTHY HANDS OFF MY NOSTALGIA SHIP
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I know some anons brought this up on the previous thread already
OP's reaching on some posts but that Change Me Meiko pic definitely has stolen the background from Rella's arthttp://archive.is/Esi7Q
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god remember the point in the vocaloid fandom when everyone agreed that rin and len's relationship status is completely up to interpretation and it's perfectly fine to see them as siblings or lovers
what the hell happened to that. literally why is every fandom like this nowadays
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Creep-P is dropping all of their vocal synth work.
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He spoke about this on Twitter too. Looks like he's pretty much done with the vocal synth community, but will still be making music. I saw this coming, especially with how much he's said he didn't want to be a called a VocaP for a while.
I don't personally give a fuck about his obnoxious ass or his shitty music, but good for him I guess.
So what? He's going to go through the trouble of finding real people to sing his songs?
It's fine if he doesn't want to be associated with the vocaloid community anymore (honestly who would in this day and age) but it's still convenient as a singing program. There's still plenty of engloids that have no real identity and are just voices (cyva, cyan, chris, amy, miriam, etc.)
Also imo he should just stick to making insturmentals. He's really great at making normal music, but songs and lyrics not so much.
>>106073>He's really great at making normal music
are we talking about the same person? creep's instrumentals are literally the most discordant shit i've heard in my life.
the problem about doing vocaloid is that you kinda pigeonhole yourself into the vocaloid community (unless you're like, porter robinson or something i guess). that was good for creep because his shit has literally no appeal whatsoever unless you're an edgy weeb tween.
now that he's not doing vocaloid, who the fuck is he making music for? normal people don't like the sound of a fat autist banging on a midi keyboard. dude's gonna crash and burn and it will be hilarious.
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Why's he still keeping the -P suffix though? Isn't that strictly for Vocaloid producers?
Also, what was the P suffix trend ever for anyway
Im not even sure the apology was needed especially when the song never specifically stated “by the way, fuck people with NPD”. Abusive
people still exist and I don’t think a few people getting butthurt should warrant artists to stop talking about them.
That's just what fandom culture is like now. Making content about subject matter = condoning the subject matter, to these people. Everyone has lost the ability to think critically about a single fucking thing in their lives.
I think about how edgy and grimdark the Vocaloid fandom used to be in like, 2010 and wonder how the fuck these people even got here. I know a lot of them are 12 so they're too young to remember it but it's wild that it never occurred to them.
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This is what I don't legit get. Why do people get so offended when artists explore dark subjects?
What is the difference between fetishisation/romantization and just expressing yourself, and why are people so obtuse to understand it nowadays?
Example, this is a drawing of an underage girl. People can cancel Kikuo just for that.
It's trendy and they do it for clout. It's as simple as that. Nothing gets you retweets faster than trying to cancel someone with a big follower base by yelling whatever problematic
buzzword is in today. If they actually gave a shit they'd go after the numerous confirmed child abusers and MAPs online, it's not like they're hard to fucking find.
that's a bit of an exaggeration. some of the topics she puts tws on do make sense
or am I missing something here
old milk discussed in the first thread
tl;dr he cheated on his girlfriend with a 19 year old (technically under the age of consent where they lived) and she accused him of abuse
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Ghost deactivated their twitter, probably as damage control for the Candle Queen apology
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She said in a reply to a comment that it's to reverse the parasocial relationships between her and her fans or something like that. I do remember her complaining recently on Twitter about how toxic
her fandom has become so I think that's her primary motivation. It may also be an attempt to control her venting/oversharing addiction though. For example, she posted this the day before.>>107773
I agree, it's a very good move and it will help her a lot, but she's very impulsive and rarely sticks to her decisions so she'll probably be back in a few months, maybe even less.
"hi i'm an alcoholic" makes me cackle because that's the exact thing people are calling her out for, spreading the message to her young fans that drinking culture is cool and romanticised? "hi i'm an alcoholic osdd1b/did system" god she just makes osdd1b people look like a joke and also I thought she said she's been professionally diagnosed. You're either one or the other.
Yeah it's a good move, but she probably will
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"I know this has been mentioned" then why do you mention it again. If you don't have anything to add at least sage.
Changing the topic, does anyone know what this is about? She said this group is a "facet of the vocaloid community", so I doubt she means this site. And also accused this group of driving two producers (ghost and creep I assume) out of twitter. My gut tells me it's just the same old shit again but I have hope that it's at least a bit interesting this time.
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I've investigated a bit and apparently some minors were critizicing/"harassing" other minors because making edgy songs is ableist now? So yeah same shit as always. What I don't get is why they say it was kids being harassed but ghost was affected by it too? And to the point of deactivating her Twitter account lmao. If I find the "harassers" they're talking about I'll post more screencaps here
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No, they say ghost left because
of these people, so it isn't only about her. Apparently this teenager RIP (he's 16 iirc) was also attacked and he got depressed and privatized all his YouTube videos for like a night (What's with these people and their tendency to DFE whenever they're in trouble?). Maybe when they talked about "minors being harassed" they meant him.
(Btw the Shay in the screenshot is not ghost, they just have the same name)
RIP is a girl. She's not really a big deal, her music's pretty talented for starting at around 12-13, but istg all the producers like her who are part of Ghost's group just have this mentality of running away probably for attention and uwu points. But eh, RIP isn't much of a topic here.
In general why the fuck doesn't that Shay call someone out? It just creates more drama when they talk about it but don't specify what's going on.
>>108526> In general why the fuck doesn't that Shay call someone out? It just creates more drama when they talk about it but don't specify what's going on.
Because her goal is drama. It functions like a career steroid for her since her audience of young impressionable cancel culture Twitter activists fall for the drama hook line and sinker and uncritically glorify her as a victim
uwu and stan her even harder.
She used to do this same thing when she had her tumblr. She’d passively incite her fanbase of flying monkeys to go harass anyone who spoke critically about her music and then when confronted about it, take no responsibility for her stirring of the pot and lean further into her victim
I think the Shay the anon meant was the one in the screenshot, not ghost.
I do agree that vague-tweeting and not talking about the problem directly is quite annoying. They say it's because they don't want these people to be harassed but how the hell is the community supposed to know who to avoid/hold accountable then? And how the hell are we supposed to know who to laugh at?! They're making everything needlessly complicated.
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Pretty much. Except now no one can access Vocallouts’ twitter cause they literally deleted their account. At least keep your shit up, hiding it is more suspicious.
Ghost did say something about a wip that leaked and was circulating from their Patreon (?) idk how much that really matters their old songs being leaked and reuploaded is nothing new
She also directly mentioned vocallouts in her last thread daring them to reveal their identity, so I assume her "leaving" Twitter (I'm 100% sure she'll come back eventually) may have something to do with them. Maybe vocallouts also deleted their account because of ghost's thread? Idfk, these people are so sensitive, I don't understand why they're still public figures.>>108896
Yes, she said a WIP had been leaked from her Patreon and that's why she stopped posting WIPs there. I don't know why she's surprised that her fans don't trust her to finish her projects or to keep them posted kek
Ah, yes, I remember that. A well-known figure in the community turned out to be a creep and an abuser. Not surprising in the slightest.
Have these people actually done anything to deal with their community's pedophilia issue, or do they just mention it every now and then when talking about other petty drama?
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Anyone know what the hell this is about? Or is she just a crazy racist? She’s not even a good modeler. Being able to use Koikatsu does not make you a 3D modeler
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The account is full of it. Am I just missing something here?
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Someone on the dead ghost thread posted this "picture of Ghost". Not sure what this is all about but I highly doubt this is Ghost.
I have no fucking idea who that person is or what she's talking about. She probably just saw a couple Russian people that pissed her off and of course she wants to start drama about it. But I don't think anything actually happened.
Does she usually behave like this? She might have some milk to give.
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Indeed it's not Ghost, just a reddit user who has nothing to do with Vocaloid at all
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Guess who's back and blaming it on the alters! This bodes well for a full return in the future.
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This milk is just too good. I called it being an attention stunt but the added flair of her blaming it on one of her ""alters"" is really taking this to another level.
Pic related, currently claiming her drug addict alter is making her drunk-post kek
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calling one of her alters a "twink" and setting up a potential "argument" between that alter and the druggie alter
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Not gonna lie, GHOST's old 2014 art style was somewhat better.
It was pretty fucking edgy, but it did occasionally feel macabre.
>it still doesn't excuse her for being a bitch.
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Shay is back AND inappropriately oversharing personal details about her supposed DID? Why am I not surprised?
What worried/interests me the most is this tweet where she talks about turning her Twitter into a mental health ""awareness"" account (aka munching out). I know she rarely keeps her promises but this sounds like something she would actually do. I'm sure she's already preparing her Meet The Alters video.
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This bitch is deadass drawing fan art of her “alters”… not pictured is her pretending to be a different alter this morning who is freaking out over last night’s alter’s behavior
man, to think i actually looked up to this woman.
unironically thought her music was good, until i discovered more niche and better producers.
i never followed her drama closely because i didn't use social media aside from youtube back then, and now that i know what she's really like, it just disgusts me how low she can blow, now riding on the coattails of DID and autismos.
sage for slight blogposting
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She's actually been riding the self-diagnosed mental illnesses train for a long time and she has collected quite a few "diagnoses" so far, as you can see in this tweet. It's from July 5th of this year. She has also heavily hinted at having ARFID in the past. So like another anon said she has munchie potential. I could believe her having depression or something like that, but AVPD? Come on.
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The reply to this tweet is actually interesting, it makes me wonder about what her "diagnosis" process is like. Does she seriously think that relating to a disorder's DSM diagnostic criteria means you have that disorder? Or does she take "well, those feelings could be caused by BDD" as a psychiatric diagnosis? Or both? Who knows.
Fucking hell, she's starting to become like the DID YouTubers who have awful acting, present completely incorrect "facts" about DID, and make DID people in general look like a fucking joke, her and her edgy funnie!! cool!!! yeah babe!! alcoholic alters reek of Tumblr. >>110652
Many people with DID do draw their alters to get a better visual acknowledgement of themselves, but she just screams edgy 13 year old Tumblr girl tbh>>110615
"Mental health awareness" my ass, if you call talking like a 13 year old kid without any fucking punctuation, grammar or logic and being insensitive about everything and ignoring everyone who tries to help and just being an ass in general and spreading """facts""" about DID "mental health awareness"
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Luckily for us, her followers know her and someone captured her Twitter profile yesterday with the Wayback Machine. You can't delete anything off the Internet, Shay. Sometimes you have to act your fucking age and face your own mistakes.
I'll also attach a screenshot of my favorite tweet of hers during that time.
It's interesting how so many of her fans are also self dxing with DID just because she's doing it—remember back in 2018 when all her rabid fans were self dxing with BPD when she said she had it? Insane worshipping levels here. I can't wait for actual DID people to call her out, if those fans in her comments that say they're also systems actually have DID I'm surprised they haven't called her out for her foolery yet.
Too bad you can't even act like someone with actual DID.
The thing is that people with actual DID usually aren't on the Internet because they're too busy trying to have normal and healthy lives to worry about what a random 22-year-old teenager girl may say of a disorder she doesn't know shit about. Even if they were on the Internet and knew of Shay, most would have enough common sense/shame to avoid talking about their severe mental disorder online, which is why 99% of these self-labeled "mental health advocates" are fakers.
It WOULD however be great if she did become a mental health vlogger or what the fuck ever and Dr. Grande commented on her "activism" like he did with DissociaDID and Trisha Paytas. That would really be worth watching.>>110871
Implying that she would even bother making the effort to write a book when she can just stick to shitposting- I mean, "raising awareness about the disorder" on Twitter and maybe YouTube. If it usually takes her 8 months to make 4-minute songs, I can't imagine how long it would take her to write a 200-page book. She could hire a ghostwriter (kek) like most influencers do but I dont know. I kind of hope she won't get to that extreme. It would be very sad.
Care to give the full story? Without context it's hard to judge if it's milky or not.
said, ghost's WKs do run around starting a lot of drama and sending targeted harassment for stupid shit, I've seen it happen more than once.
Like fucking clockwork, she's back. I don't know what did it, but we're now reaching levels of tumblrtism that shouldn't even be possible. It's be hilarious if someone drew porn of the three "alters" to make her reach super saiyan levels of assmad. >>110591
I agree. That was before she became plagued by the clout culture of mental illness. All genuine art tends to be charming in one way or another.
Also,>newfag can't greentext
Oh lord, Vocaloid fans/producers being whiny and taking the Internet way too personally, that has never (>>>/w/78263) happened before (>>>/w/86193)
The difference here is that RIP is an actual teenager while the rest are adults acting like teenagers kek.
Seriously, if the Internet upsets them so much, why don't they just leave? The world would be a much better place.
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4 years and several thousand dollars later, oliver's vocamerica model has finally been released.
This looks so off model, that's not even a sailor hat. Does this mean they're going to do concerts again?
Is there a fandom for engloids anymore? the western fandom only cares about Miku now
4 years and thousands of dollars for a half-assed model of Oliver?
Jesus Christ, that's so lazy.
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it gets worse. you can't even move his arm without his capelet spazzing out, for starters
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yoistyle still has no idea how to render clothing folds
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and of course what would a vocamerica oliver model be without referencing aki's creepy shotacon bullshit
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So GHOST's back with what I think is an apology as one of her alters
I read the link. Basically she's still blaming stuff on her alters but she does recognize (some of) the things she's done wrong and she says she'll work on it. Lmao we'll see how that goes.
Is she actually going to therapy? I know treatment can be slow but I feel like her therapist should've told her that you don't talk about your fucking mental illnesses on a 20k follower account. No one cares. Act like an adult.
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Wait. I just noticed something. Shay always had her significant other's Twitter account on her bio, but… it's not there anymore. It could be that they (does anyone know their gender?) deleted their Twitter account, but… (1/2)
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…the account is still there. Inactive, as always, but still there.
Does anyone know if this means anything?
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Ghost has updated her website with the alter art. Also of note, there is no link to twitter but there is a tab that takes you to a browser version of the snake game. I wonder if that's just a holdover from the template she used.https://www.ghostandpals.com/
call this dumb bitch by what she is. Why do people on this thread insist on playing along with a narcissistic womanchild's delusions lmao
They want to cancel all the vipperloids for various reasons. From Ruko and Ritsu being "transphobic" to having Tei "a pedo preying on minors" to Teto's concept being originally a nazi character kek
This community has gone from praising edgy jokes so much it was what put vippers on a pedestal, to trying to justify still adoring them by any means years after, to ultimately the Vocaloid/UTAU community becoming so woke there is no other choice but to cancel them.
I do think there are big benefits behind cancelling all these japanese producers, UTAU and artists. There is no shortage of people using these to promo themselves or their western friends followed by "unproblematic king" replies
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Ghost is having a mega super sperg-out over a thread somone made criticizing her and her (discord?) server. There's like 25 long tweets about this so instead of trying to cap all of them: TLDR, "I'm like, totally okay with being called out, you guys know that!! I welcome it. Except for I'm not okay with being called out this time because I totally didn't even do that stuff."
pic related is bonus sperging about how ALL of her OCs are trans as some sort of damage control after some equally autistic person complained that too many of her OCs are cis
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I honestly doubt they committed suicide. "Singing robots" really isn't really worth killing yourself, but idk about these kids
I call bullshit, it was a planned bomb knowing that most of these people couldn't defend themselves due to time difference
this is perpetuated by an asslicker that has no qualms on faking a suicide to burn the people that this person has differences with.
Imagine killing yourself over tranny UTAU drama. That's fucking hilarious if true. But nobody even has any proof this person actually killed themselves, all that happened was the person was like "wahh imma kill myself" and then deleted their account. My bet is they just deleted their account to avoid the people arguing with them and put the suicide thing up right before just to cause a stir and feel like a victim
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Its so sad how she constantly bends over for her fans (or antis) even when they clearly in the wrong. Yall really want to deny the fact that mentally ill people aren’t your precious little angels uwu. What a pushover
Oh come on, at this point no one believes her promises, not even her fans. She's gonna stay on Twitter until she's actually canceled. >>111831
I doubt it's real. They just implied it to make the other side look bad without actually confirming anything. It is very funny to see how people so supposedly worried about mental health issues use suicide as a literal weapon in their slap fights.
She has somehow managed to build a literal abusive
relationship with her fandom. Honestly her alleged BPD is the only one of her (self-)diagnoses I could believe, if only because of how bad she is at social interaction in general.
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So as it turns out KaynTheWolf's suicide is, in fact, fake. Apparently he did it to frame this MSyphn person after having a "debate" with her about Trump. (1/2)
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The conversation between RossCuth and KaynTheWolf. (2/2)
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Also screenshot of the fight between Kayn and Mia because they literally acted like children and it's funny (the image isn't mine, sorry for the horrible font).
I confirm this bitch is annoying as fuck but remember that MOROS still licks Creep's Armpits.
This part of the UTAU community is fucking disgusting. They need something better to do what the fuck.
Maybe we'd call her by those pronouns if she wasn't such a huge asshole.>>111847
I thought Communications IS shitty and ableist though? How is it not or am I missing something here?>>111905
Tumblr transage lmao
What else has MOROS done? Need some milk
That photo is unrelated to their reply.>>111820
It's interesting how a lot of nonbinary people tend to be extremely mentally ill. It's apparently proven that the "not feeling like belonging to a specific gender" can stem from mental illness and feeling out of place. If anything Ghost looks like a woman who's just extremely out of touch with reality. I really wish she'd actually get help and listen to others for once. It's good for her and everyone. I sometimes wonder whether she's actually in therapy because a lot of the things she does seem fishy she's just 99% self diagnosed. I can believe she's depressed and has dysthymia but she's not insane and it isn't an excuse to be a cunt.
And I swear to fucking god, why are there so many """"trans"""" people out in the UTAU community. Bet fifty bucks 99% of them are nondysphoric tumblrinas.
You have autism if you really believe that. Communications is absolute dog shit but it’s not ableist for pointing out that mentally ill people can be and often are abusive
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> talking about moros creepy ocs> ignores the fact that the entire vocaloid fanbase ignores the loli/shota content, including the fact that GigaP used to tune songs for shota vocaloid songs
alot of the newer fans don't acknoweldge the fact that vocaloid is build on creeps and loli/shota cons, anyone who comes with the idea that its new is just young and retarded.
Moros is cringe and has some milk potential, but please stop with the lolicon/shotacon obsession, because thats the same old sour milk thats been given out since 10 years.
Oh god, I used to work with these people about 10 years ago or so and their history is steeped in milk. They’ve rebranded twice from “Vocaloid Visions” to “Synthesized Reality Productions” to now “VOCAMERICA,” probably because they’re constantly running from their bad reputation. I unfortunately don’t have any screenshots to back the following claims, so obviously sage.
Almost everybody from the original group has jumped ship except for a select few. They used to have a group of all high school, underage girls who would cosplay the main Vocaloids and promote and open the show. “Underage“ is key because they were told to act as glorified booth girls and sometimes were put in skimpy clothing on stage. One of the girls was groomed by the sound guy-turned head of SRP and VOCAMERICA. This guy, Wolf, was in his mid-twenties when he started dating her when she was a high school underclassman. He’s a classic narcissist and constantly praises himself and his “company.” They’re still dating to this day according to their fb and they’re the only ones left over from the early days.
All of the other high school girls left fairly quickly, and some confided in me that Wolf and the lighting guy Alfred would make romantic and sexual comments towards them. I specifically remember that one of the high school students told me that she was uncomfortable, because Wolf told her something like “virgins are attracted to Asian guys because they’re less intimidating.” She was dating an Asian guy at the time. I told her that I would look out for her if anything else happened, but I deeply regret not doing anything more at the time.
The lighting guy would follow the cosplayers around like a puppy and make nice-guy protective “m’lady” comments when any other male would try to talk to them. I wasn’t very close to him so I don’t have any other stories. I left before Aki got on board so I don’t have any info on her either.
I apologize for the wall of text without any verifiable milk, but I’m ashamed of being silent while it was happening especially since the girls were underage. I have a lot of other stories about the crew but don’t want to shit up the thread, so I’ll end it here.>>111153>>111198
I think that these are very indicative of both VOCAMERICA and the Vocaloid fandom.
Mmd is still fairly popular, japanese people create amazing content with it. It's even used in the vtuber industry.
Since motion capture been released
However, Aki choose mmd so she can underpay teenager animators in exchange for motion data, she doesn't want to pay professional animators because it would cost her more. Not that she doesn't have money for that. She just finds fancover dances on youtube and then comissions people from deviantart. I don't remember the name of the person, so if anyone knows please tell me who they were, I remember that they were around 17, not from USA and been paid 100 dollars for hours of work.
A fair amount of motion capture apps were made for MMD last couple years, which only require a clear video to work. With that in mind, I imagine quality of vocamerica dances only gonna drop further.
I didn't know those were given out. I tried to find them, but never did.
Sage for off topic
she didn't even pay people at one point when she needed emergency animators, she just offered shitty vocamerica keychains as compensation>>112076
iirc these were kickstarter backer rewards unless people have been leaking them on deviantart?
I wouldn't call it a "rebrand" they share some history but each entity is distinct in personnel and leadership.
“Vocalekt Visions” was TempoP and neutrinoP
“Synthesized Reality Productions” was Wolf Neve and neutrinoP with additional contributions by AkiGlancy
“VOCAMERICA” was all AkiGlancy
Everyone that has worked with Wolf Neve knows he is a verifiable asshole. He has admitted he only did the Vocaloid concert thing to increase his own profile and make a quick buck. Also confirming that Alfred was a creeper, they were both kinda creepy when it came to the cosplayers.
It may be pedantic to separate them, but they are 3 distinct entities. I just want to clear up some background, as I was involved with all 3 parties.
"Vocalekt Visions" was the brainchild of TempoP& neutrinoP. At the time Mikunopolis hadn't happened and it was their dream to bring Vocaloid concerts, even a fan concert, to the West. It disbanded when TempoP exited Vocaloid and relocated out of California to Texas and could no longer meet his convention obligations.
“Synthesized Reality Productions” was made to specifically fill the hole in the convention schedule "Vocalekt Visions" left. Wolf Neve was live programming staff and met Tempo/Neutrino through their con concert activities. When TempoP left he used his connections in the convention scene to get neutrinoP on board and he basically inherited all of "Vocalekt Visions" assets through neutrinoP. In this was SRP is a direct descendent of VV.
“VOCAMERICA” was created by AkiGlancy because she got in a clash of egos with Wolf Neve and thought she could do the DIY Vocaloid concert thing better herself. Wolf Neve was all about unpaid labor and I think he never gave Aki her cut for voicing the SRP mascot and the work she contributed toward the concert production and promotion. This led her to want to do things herself and it was a clean break, VOCAMERICA started from scratch and inherited none of SRP's assets. This led to the Kickstarter and thus The rest is history.
About the only thing the 3 had in common was contributions by Re:VB-P, the developer of "AniMiku" which was the renderer that powered much of the DIY concert footage. He also did a bunch of projection experiments and guided all 3 groups on their projection tech. https://github.com/revb39/animiku
Fuck Wolf Neve is gross. Him and Alfred invited me up to his hotel at a convention and I didn't know their reputation at the time. I being the nieve dumb kid I was in 2012 took him up on the offer.
He offered me pizza that he said he was gonna bill to the convention, said he was keeping all his receipts so he could "expense it", talked about how such a great negotiator, how he got the convention to pay for all his stuff, he just couldn't fucking stop talking about himself, and he came off as a real fucking creeper.
I regret my IRL encounter with Wolf Neve to this day, 8 years later. I wish I still had my Skype logs of back in the day conversing with all these insider Vocaloid peeps. There was some real milk buried in there.
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Seems very milky to me.
Assholes blocking assholes.
On another topic, is there any milk on Creep anymore now that he left the Vocaloid community?
Doesn't seem so, he probably still is out there being horny on main despite 95% of his following being minors, overhyping his musical equivalent of keymashes and smoking weed
Typing it out makes it seem like certain "influencers", and honestly that's pretty much him
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old milk but this thread is anemic af anyways. went to his twitter to make sure i didn't hallucinate his $200 tuning lessons post and found stm worse instead
didn't mean it to come off as vendettaposting, i was legit surprised by these prices, but at the same time i don't know shit abt what proper pricing is for custom made music. i also just assume everything kenji does is for the sake of coasting off his fame so i came in w that in mind. also, >>114270
isn't me, i was at work all afternoon>>114171>if you're too dumb to look for all the free tutorials out there then you kinda deserve to be scammed
lmao honestly. it's exploitative but at the same time… come the fuck on. at least google this shit and look at some decently tuned vsqs before shilling out that kind of cash
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me pointing out that 400$ is not an unreasonable price for an entire custom song means that I'm buddies with nostraightanswer…? ok
anyway what's going on with ghost's twitter? Did she get hacked or was she displaying such bad schizo behavior that twitter clocked her for a bot? kek
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WIP, wanted to do this for the laffs. If anyone has any ideas for other stuff I can put in here, let me know
I’m anon from >>112002
. Sorry for not responding for a long time. I don’t come to lolcow that often. >>112560
Thanks for clearing up my misinformation. I apologize for my incorrect info and I appreciate the corrections. I actually had no idea that VOCAMERICA was a separate entity. (I got out of the mess before Aki was associated with SRP.) If VOCAMERICA lost access to SRP assets, that explains why their animations went so downhill. Each character does the exact same dance animation with no realistic timing/movement variations, making it look very robotic (even more so than those of Vocalekt Visions and SRP). It also explains why Aki doesn’t have access to Japanese Vocaloids, since Wolf was the one who exploited Tempo-P, then one of the high school cosplayers, then another one of the cosplayers when they graduated into college for Japanese translations. >>112561
You and I must have talked together on the Skype messages at one point. Do you remember the mess of a human being James (I think that was his name)? He was so incredibly creepy in both personality and looks and constantly made promises that he never kept to the point that everyone including even the other extreme cringe members got fed up. I feel gross thinking about him. I also remember Brian (?) who helped with show setup. I remember him talking about drugs around the still underage cosplayers…
Wolf also told me about the pizza after the convention. Good to know that he felt the need to get validation from multiple people and not just me.
Most of this is old milk from a decade ago that is irrelevant now, what's the point lmao >>114883
I thought she used her fans for translation or something.
Candle Queen drama just proves the stupidity of the fandom rather than any mistakes its writers made. People will go call anything ableist and discriminatory these days. It's a nice song ruined by a bunch of retards.
Is the bottom picture Ruby saturated to oblivion? Can't tell lmao. What's with the Crusher and Calalini though? It's been like 11-12 years since that happened. She's got no milk now
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for you wannabee milkers, Calaloni was released back in 2010 where crusher wanted to raise awareness of the family and it did work. there was som merch and them donating money to the family to "help them" until in late 2010s the familys abuse came to light.
crusher then obviously split the connection to the family, but still released her old song in her album. It wondered me why shed bring it back, as now everyone will think shes profiting of abuse even tho thats not the case, just desperate farmers trying to get some milk out of this fandom.
y'all are retards and it shows, mostly cause none of you documented the MSyphn/XAmy/Kayn drama which was milky as fuck and aged like fine cheese if you know the whole context. VocalSynth is just a bunch of kids being stupid. Wish vocaloid never left japan, so i can rave off shitty shota parodies from giga-p
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she's mega cute methinks
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she drinks whole milk so her bones are nice and strong if that's what you're asking
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farts super hard(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
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can someone ban them already, getting this thread filled with random fans of the cows is annoying>>115219
wouldn't mind to actually list it up later once I got time. The western fandom as a whole was pretty bad at dealing with this shit
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samefag but heres the colored version
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I am kinda new on writing on here, so please excuse any mistakes I made.
Also sorry if some stuff in here don't really belong on this site.
Does anyone know about the producer DASU/Dasucakies here and about her stuff?
Is she a milky cow?
And did anyone on here, read her Stellar Paradigm novel? Well the two chapters we got so far plus the prologue. ((I haven't checked tho if she uploaded another one.))
I have to say they are really… lacking.
Its probably a nice story at least what I understood or more got from her song series so far.
But I feel there is just stuff missing in the novel. I am a huge sucker for people going a bit more in depth about. For example like the scenery the characters move in.
And I was kinda disappointed after chapter 1.
Even if there are books I read that miss that I could still enjoy them but with hers.. it's a hit or miss I think.
Something just lacks.
Other than that I enjoy her work and gladly watch her grow unlike other producers…
On another sidenote;
Does anyone know more about the post I put alongside this? She suddenly posted it and well it's a nice message for her followers to watch out for themselves but it left me rather curious.
homegirl can't design a character worth a shit lmao. she has no real creativity and all she can do is recycle the same basic concepts over and over>>115294
idk about you but i want her to keep embarrassing herself so i can see how far she can fall before the fandom at large realizes she's a fucking idiot
Nah Dasu's all right. Her lyrics are kind of cringey but overall she's got great skill in art, video and animation. Her melodies are kind of bland but her production is good.
What she said in that picture is true and apart from her cringe lyrics she's honestly one of the producers who's kept a clean good image in the fandom>>115267
That hurts my eyes, her art reeks of Tumblrina ugly
avanna's design has some appeal imo, at least when anyone other than Aki draws it.
this dude looks like shit tho. this color scheme makes me ill, it's like a printer that's out of yellow ink.
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god do I hate westerners for being fucking retarded and hating on canon for being misinformed. Probably will end up posting about that MSyphn drama bc its half connected to Canon but westerners are fucking retarded.
Nah there's nothing milky about that. It's just talking about truths in the entertainment industry ig. Stellar Paradigm was all right, not the best thing I've read >>115511
Avanna's design is decent imo. It's just Aki's lack of shape in her art
On another note,
Is there any milk on PKAkatora? Didn't he get cancelled recently again by another wave?
he still obsessively namesearches himself with numerous alt accounts (coz ppl just block him). other than that not much.
as long as he has brain dead stans ready to defend him he'll just keep stealing and making money off people's stuff. used to be funny seeing assmad people about this but it's getting tiring at this point
can't beat him? join him i guess. like that guy who's stealing ust files and making $800 a month on Patreon
I really fucking hate it when people needlessly censor names and words like a typical snowflake.
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>“Ok now I understand it was my misunderstanding for being a stupid American but I STILL THINK HE SHOULD APOLOGIZE!!”
>“I know we all just ganged up on him to call him a racist bigot for no reason but telling us we’re too sensitive is really uncalled for.”
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Totally random post here, but I saw posts in the past bitching about Aki/Vocamerica, and I just thought I'd share this. This is part of a discord convo with PhilYamahaUK (a known vocaloid programmer who retired). Basically we got talking about dex and daina and how bad they were and he all but explained how vocamerica was a payment plan for them, and THATS where a good chunk of vocamerica money went to. I could go on about other bs vocamerica did and other dirt i know as a semi-dev myself, but I might save that for a future post. Also if you want proof of my dev-ing, I can show you the V4 Dev kit. Not the one that MAKES the voicebanks, but rather the testing one. I actually have vivi, who's shit lol.
Sorry, forgot to post Phil's twitter as well.
if you wanna ask. He's pretty open about his vocaloid devving.
What a load of bullshit.
Phil of formerly Yamaha UK is an end processor of vocal samples. He edits them as to compress them for the final release he has worked on kaito v3 and some English vocaloids. If you claim that he is a developer/ programmer then you are dead wrong because the man has never touched the programming aspects. He has been let go because the Yamaha UK subsidiary for vocaloid is no more. This says to me, you are not a dev and you will never be a dev because you would be able to distinguish the role of a dev vs a sample editor instead of making this shit up.
Adding to this, even if it happens to be true, that he's, in fact, not a VB dev, he'd still be a part of the staff, meaning there's still a solid possibility he'd know of the things that were going on internally, no? Proof that he's not would still be proof that he's been a staff member.
So, it's rather irrelevant, whether or not anon knows how to distinguish between a dev, and an end processor.
I have the proof right here.
Why the fuck are American kids so self-centered to the point of forgetting that not everything in the world relates to current/past events in their culture?>>116554
Any chance you could upload Vivi? Even if she's absolute shit, it would be neat to see what kind of work had been done on her.
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for context on what they're upset about, Utsu-P announced a live concert for his band and the gimmick is that all concert attendees are given robes and candles to "ward off covid 19". and right after, Utsu made a (now deleted) tweet where he said "i wanted to go with this sort of design, but it would be too expensive". most western fans only saw that one and didnt look for context, of course.
I mean, with the current times we live in with BLM and all that, I would understand how some rando in America can take it out of context immediately. I don’t really blame them for that.
I only blame people for then trying to keep cancelling him if once they get the context though.
2/10 how many keychains did aki promise you for this post>>117212>Being jealous of someone for voicing a vocaloid is way too childish
You'd be surprised with the UTAU community
Everyone that got paid off signed a NDA and I'm pretty sure they are watching this thread anyway.
You can verify with the guy who programmed ruby. Enough time has passed, he might be willing to talk.
I've been in the utau community for a while now and the only jealous people are childish teens who only dream of voicing a Vocaloid
UTAU is good enough by itself and you get to decide everything so whatever
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its like she wanted to remind us that she tried to sell these without permission from moomins creators
is she still selling them on her store/patreon or did she finally grow a braincell? still ugly as dog shit
Luan was in all honesty pretty damn awful. Glad he's dead.
Talking about garbage, I got reminded that Akuo took very "obscure songs" from Norse producers and just adapted lyrics and profited from those.
luan is an ungodly reminder of how english-speaking western fans are fucking selfish and disregard other westerners. when luan was revealed he got so much shit because he was voiced by akuo. people on vocaloidotaku didnt know why everyone from the spanish fandom hated luan and called them ungrateful because there werent many spanish vocaloids and their own needs were more important apparently
spanish fans made it clear what they wanted. giuseppe knew that and still gave castilian spanish through lucia and luan. luan being voiced by someone the spanish fans fucking hated was the shit that hit the fan. when people tried to explain to vo why luan was hated, they didnt want to listen and kept asking and kept saying spanish fans were shit ungrateful
for people who dont know why akuo is hated its because he is twofaced and talked so much shit about maika and her artist despite being "friends" with her because he was so jealous that his design didnt win the contest. thats why he keeps pushing his shit design in everyones faces. he also talks a lot of shit about the spanish community but english fans give him a pass because they cant fucking read and he fakes his personality with them to look sweet and innocent. he also shits on the mmd community and says that his boyfriends models are the best if i remember correctly
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akuo could be a bigger cow than aki (metaphorically speaking) if not for the language barrier
>bf's models are the best
if he considers models with stolen parts from REM, TDA and YYB the best, sure
Ah, classic Giuseppe behavior, boomer in all of itself.
Akuo's Maika design was Ok, not horrible, but MEH, as he is himself. >>117713
Aki is the most relevant cow to the VOCALOID fandom because well the majority of the fandom is english-speaking. But you can get a lot more milk from Akuo.
Does anyone still have the screenshots of when Rem called them out for it? Shortly after they "lost contact" with Aki for about 4~5 years.
Akuo also whores his shitty MAIKA OC (Leire)? into everything he collabs in, its really off putting.
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or people hate them because theyre shitty banks
should never have left utau if theyre going to bitch about people rightfully hating their shitty vocaloids. people are paying for this. theyre allowed to hate it if they want
What's funny is how much he paints himself as the victim
. Boohoo, woe is me, I am getting attention (but not the kind I wanted).
sksksksk The worst thing for Dex and Daina's reputation is actually not even their vb but the fact they're associated with Kenji and Aki. Everytime I think about them, I see this hot mess of a person.
he lurks and witch hunts everyone on twitter dot com for every disagreement
i dont know how people can stand him or not see red flags. ive seen him shit on people for the littlest things and hes so manipulative its disgusting
wait til he finds out that theres even furries who hate them because theyre bad vocals kek
u can have furries with good vocals and furries with bad. theres lots of good furry utau with vocals dex and daina wish they had. those two are just bad. tough shit. he thinks because he and aki voiced them nobody is allowed to have an opinion on how shit they really are lol what a child
according to a friend of mine, dex and daina aren't even furry, they're kemonomimi, which is an almost universally hated concept by most furfags. so he's trying to hide behind a fandom that would most likely crucify him for saying these are furry characters lmao
of course, that doesn't actually matter, because he's just pulling new reasons out of his ass to deflect criticism of his objectively poor-quality vocaloid.
someone please let kenji know that furries are not an oppressed minority group… wanting to fuck dog people is looked down on because its fucking weird, it's not that deep.
People hate dex and daina because they sound like literal ass, not because they had animal ears.
dex, daina, and ruby should never have been made and producers or fans should never have gotten involved with creating vocaloids unless they actually know what theyre doing and can handle criticism. yukari and akari were made by producers and dont seem to have this problem but they dont sound nearly as shit as those 3
whats worse is that kenji seems to be the only one that does this constantly. i dont think aki does this much and misha and syo did at some point but its not as bad? u can expect them to react aggressively but when kenji does it its pathetic mainly because he acts like a victim
and his background and history of being a manipulative and whiny desperate cunt from wanting to be liked. hes a grown ass man who should know not everyone will like him or his work and its childish of him to think the fandom owes him that
lmao Misha and Syo were just as bad as Kenji in that screenshot when Ruby was going through that shit with them and PowerFX.
Misha just hides her disdain behind passive aggressive positive comments now.
so he stalks and manipulates people into drawing free art of his vocaloid, utau, character or song but hates on people who draws assumed harmless furry fanart for free because its not what he wants lol
i dont get it. hes a 'furry' but doesnt like furries and didnt like them being called furries but now calls them furries while furries dont like kemonomimis. ok. sound logic.
this man is the embodiment of a trainwreck>>118420
thats the thing shes complains but at least its the same consistent bullshit that nobody really cares anymore. kenji just has a new meltdown every x amount of months and contradicts himself that its so pathetic its hilarious. he acts like everyone owes him respect when he acts like hes bullied
Good point, anon. I remember when he made that post that they are just kemonomimi. I also remember them taking off the ears on dex and daina in the final box art too so it's like dex and daina as furries? Stop deluding yourself.
May Kenji go down in history as king of changing the narrative to suit his own ego. So Dex's popularity never got to the level you wanted but damn, keep bitching so we can all have a laugh at your expense.
akuo IS a bigger cow than aki in the spanish speaking community. Everyone knows about his endeavors.
You englishfags have no idea. The spanish community is an endless stream of milk to the point I regret we didn't have anywhere like lolcow but in spanish so these people could be discussed properly, so most discussion didn't go beyond gossip in private groups. In fact I know lots of minor cows getting away with tons of shit thanks to the language barrier. It's quite tragic, actually.>>117698
Very good summary. God the burgers in this fandom are literal fucking cancer, I am so glad that pedohole vocaloidotaku is gone.
on vocaloidotaku englishfags had the audacity to blame spanish fans for being ungrateful and the reason why there would never be another spanish vocaloid. they really act like they were going to use spanish ones themselves when theyre not what those vocaloids are marketed to. iirc spanish fans were mad they got another castilian vocaloid when they wanted different accents and regional representations and giuseppe knew this. instead they were given more maika/clara clones with one of them voiced by one of the most hated people in the spanish fandom who also happens to be akis friend. doubt its a coincidence.
so much for that. akuo wanted clout that bad and luan died on sight as soon it was leaked akuo voiced him. good riddance. but fuck the englishfags for assuming shit about the spanish fandom. they know nothing about it and had no right to act entitled for vocaloids that werent made for them. people can have an opinion but this was more than that
namedropping one of them: laura megurine. i remember her being one of the ones blaming spanish fans on vocaloidotaku before it went down. acting sad and angry because there would be no more spanish vocaloids after akuo and giuseppes treatments even though akuo is scum and giuseppe was being an asshole because he couldnt take fair criticism in the comments