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Jude's social media debut was a Barcroft TV doc with her roomie and then got IG and YT for the first time ever, and lolcow debut in the Altcow thread.
-vegan, straight edge, holier than thou
-"soo uncaring", also 24/7 triggered
-is a cunt to seem hardcore n cool
-faux bi, and hates porn but posts lewds
-will "save the world" - never acts on it, just says it to sound fake deep
-claims to be "goth" but says its not about the music (it is)
-wants to be an influencer with no effort or even a YT schedule
-followers must conform to her opinions or fuck offPeople
Rosie - roommate
Clayton/sadboiaccount - skinwalker
Rotten_hollow: daddy she worships but he probs fucks other girlsLast thread
-now ex-friends with Rosie, starting cos J flipped at R doing weed
-used "gay" to mean bad a lot, followers didn't like, cue many sperg rants defending self
-says daddy doesn't want to be public, anons find out who he is
-J and Clay find lolcow, J is unusually quiet, Clay isn't
-J and Clay's recent beef with @salvjiia and @jazminbean over transphobia and attacking(?) jazmin.Links
Last thread: https://lolcow.farm/snow/res/780388
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From jazmin's IG story
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From Salvia's story, where Jude claims jazmin is a 2 faced cunt
Summary of the stories: >there's drama over stuff i said, i won't take it back cos it was hurtful on purpose, i dont respect jazmin. She doesnt represent all lgbt anyway, you know i support lgbt, but you dont know the full story so you can hate what i said but you dont know what I fully think.
Lol then say what you fully think or are you wanting to drag on this petty- I mean this riveting "drama" some more
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>a sheath dress with GOTH stamped across the chest
No. Not even ironically.
Glad my cap was useful!
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His intonation is like a Tim Heidecker asshole character. He is a humourless and talentless. Starting drama with Londoners just to impress Jude, coz he wants to fuck her so bad. He’ll be there when Will and Jude break up, coz she keeps showing her literal and figurative ass online.
Honestly they're all being petty as shit.
I actually sort of get Jude on this, sometimes you misgender simply because you don't talk to the person a whole lot. Her whole explanation of not liking them just sucks.
These two (?) are just looking for drama being as petty about it as they can be instead of teaching anyone anything good.
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Jasmine is 16, her “partner” is at least in his late 20s for the looks of it. Search "gen lamont “ on fb and you’ll find a post about how much of a pedo he is.
I think jazmin has been told but she ignores it , she’s obviously been groomed and is in the mindset that she’s “more mature” and “age is just a number” (she actively says that her age doesn’t define her and that she doesn’t identify with it)
She probably doesn't realize that by saying she doesn't "identify with her age" that makes her age pretty apparent, since that's pretty common for someone her age to say that lol.
Late 20s eh? Fucking disgusting.
Samefag but I forgot to mention her mum is completely aware of her daughters relationship, sneaking into clubs n drug use.
Her mum used to be in a semi popular punk group when she was younger n I think she thinks this is all okay and won’t fuck up her daughter mentally.
Unfortunately I have no real proof but I was close friends with her for about a year before I found out her age n how two-faced she is
She would ask to use my passport for I’d n when I said I didn’t have a vaild in date one she would mssg me every week pretty much asking if I had gotten a new passport yet so she could use it
She would shit talk all her “friends” got angry at a friend for not wanting to go to a club with her n said they were “missing out on big opportunities” bc they didn’t want to hang out with parma ham and salvia with her
She drops people when they aren’t useful to her anymore or she meets “cooler” people
There’s a reason her only friends are aesthetically pleasing Instagram personalities with followings
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Back to the matters at hand. Jude is gonna love having spliff smoke in her flat when baby chlo moves in.
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I knew a girl exactly like this who was into DDLG, I felt super bad for her mom who she bitched about all the time. Anyway I really hope Jasmine grows out of this fast because guys like this want nothing more than to manipulate young girls and 'DDLG' is their card to try and get away with it.
saged for off topic
When I get home tonight I can screenshot and post the Facebook call out post. There were tons of girls/femmes coming forward to share screenshots of him being gross towards them when they were around 17. He literally uses the same lines over and over again.
The post is about a month old and it appears that Jazz was tagged, they just never responded or acknowledged it.
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There’s more from the OP
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The girl who posted this clarified she’s currently 16.
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Oop had to delete. Left my PP in. Here’s where OP has tagged Jazz.
I can summarize the comments discussing the guys behavior and how he got kicked out of other cities before ending up in NY. But it’s way too much to screenshot and post.
What a disgusting man
Lovely to hear! I was not sure if they did anything. But I’m very glad they’ve left him.
I saw one of his PPs in the posts screenshots and it reminded me of Raven’s ex who was into BSDM. Yikes
That’s the thing though
She was actively posting about sexual assault and all of that while dating an adult while she was a child.
If he knew her age then she would know he’s a pedo and creepy for still staying with her
Or she lied about her age to him which is bad (even if turns out the guy probably wouldn’t of minded)
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Literally no one cares
What annoys me about this is how she expects all 60K followers to view her stream. Not literally but does she not know how SNS works? At least a majority are there for your looks, not because they like you. That's not including bots or pages ran by people that might as well be considered bots because they don't interact at all either. Then you have the what? 30 people that comment that like you or use your account to gather followers? 30 people out of 60K. Cut that in half, if that, for those who like you so much they tune in for your streams - if they can make it at that.
She basically has like 60 people that like her for her.
Obviously that's not how SNS works, numbers are off, theres probably more than 60 people who like her for her, etc but it's probably a lot more realistic than what our baby girl thinks.
People probably also don't like Clay. There's so many factors and she really thinks at minimum 400 people with their own lives should tune in to listen to her bad mouth someone who mixed up jam and jelly (referencing one of her and clay's first livestreams)
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I’ve dropped in on a few for the lols and lost interest within a minute. Jude seemingly uses the built in webcam on her laptop so the quality is shit. They just bumble through responding to whatever the teens in the chat are saying. Jude and Clay are not very bright and not very nice, so why would anybody wanna hang with them?
Pillsbury fatboi’s hair is back to grandma pubes again. Seems to be embracing the receding hairline with this look.
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Have told jaz about the thread , they know exactly who the person that said they were two faced and stuff about their mum in this thread previously was basically making he whole thread about jaz bc they felt like it and don’t like jaz, has sent me a screen shot of their account and told me they were barely close friends they met up twice and think it’s fuckef for them to be spreading stuff out of maliciousness because they don’t know shit and were never close friends with them ( screen shot of persons acc whose been shit posting this thread w jaz rumours in here ) , they’ve been in an abusive relationship. That’s not milk either. advice : stop(cowtipping)
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What’s Jude’s plan other than living off inheritance and failing miserably as an influencer?
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why is she so obsessed about herself?
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I let out the ugliest laugh when I saw these photos it’s her “tribute” to bvb
Two steps? By the looks of it she’s already there also notice how she says objects make her happy.
I also can’t imagine how packing all of that is going to be like whenever she moves in a few months and I hope that she doesn’t actually use those dildos that she just has lying around in open spaces where bacteria and dust just collects on them
It's gross, but she still seems much better than Jude by comparison. >>823395
She said she doesn't use them.
'she's a gross clown hoarder' is clearly the correct answer. >>823450
speak for yourself, if you ask me decorating your room with fucking dildos is pretty disgusting and absolutely something a cow would get up to.
Oh my god, the drawers filled with empty glass bottles and busted compacts and dusty stickers. Just how much junk is she hoarding? This is one of those videos that end up being revealing, in a really bad way. The palms of her hands have streaks of dirt on them. What the hell? The jackrabbit vibes next to Tinkerbell are gray with filth, did she dumpster dive for half this stuff?
I'd kick her out of my house, too.
Of course she only uploads when she gets a haul. Yep that's not done to death, it's content. The only kind she knows how to do, cos she's actually bland under the ddlg/edgy persona.
She says she wants to be an influencer, but she's not passionate about it, or her vids would have content and she wouldn't have to bleat "save the world" to make up for it kek. Nah she just wants the free gifts. And fans are dumb enough to give it cos they think she looks cool.
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I never understood the whole crying during sex being attractive but the again he deals with and supports Jude’s weird ass ddlg fetish so in a way he’s equally as fucked in the head
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Hmm sounds familiar
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Lol okay so basically you’ve gotta pay for a shoutout, on a site where free shoutouts are the norm and you pay for one if you’re THAT desperate for followers
Yikes. Just put them in a bag and not have them collect them dust.
I know hygiene is a tough concept for these hitches but Y I K E S.
Do you put filthy dildos all over your cluttered shelves? Really?
Didn't think so. Rosie is a gross, dirty weirdo who looks like she hasn't bathed in weeks. Proudly displaying and videoing your sex toys next to dolls and stuffies is nasty. She is 100% cow.
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wow, someone actually paid for a shoutout
ok vendettachan chill out. rosie is/was friends with jude so we already know she has poor taste, but she's not cow material at this current time>>823910
makes me sad when young girls do this. they don't realise that they'll barely gain any followers from these shoutouts.>>823620
will and jude are actually pretty close in age, but it's more concerning that she acts like a little child instead of a 22 year old
>>823965>makes me sad when young girls do this. they don't realise that they'll barely gain any followers from these shoutouts.
I don't understand why anyone would want a shoutout from someone closely followed on LC.
Probably not the kind of publicity they're looking for.
Tinfoil: Maybe they just have a fwb thing.
They seem to spend plenty of time together, being in the same room etc. And Jude might be lying about being monogamous to her daddy (if he exists at all).
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This is a custom pacifier for Jude. It says Rotten on it. Rotten isn't a term widely used in ddlg/goth circles, so it MUST be referencing Hollow.
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Okay first off, you’re acting as if you thinking that ur account isn’t aesthetic enough is important enough for an entire post. It’s not 2013 themes aren’t that important let alone important enough to make a psa about.
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Bitch your life is gonna get a lot harder if you think that because you can’t “fix” things you don’t agree with it’s the end of the world. Again Jude the world doesn’t fucking revolve around you, you’re not fucking Batman you’re not saving anything or anyone
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She’s acting like she was just diagnosed with cancer or something.
or that her switching up her look or whatever is gonna cHAnGe tHe woRLd.
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from her recent stream. she thanked him and said that not enough people are self aware enough LOL
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The fucking difference. Jude comes off so butthurt and immature. Not very doesn't give a fuck
of you either, Jude.
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pls giv me monies
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‘Rotten is not my daddy’ ‘I only belong to my daddy and want my daddy’
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I agree I think she’s trying to make him publicly show his affection for her and getting more and more in his face with the compliments to see if he will bc let’s face it she wouldn’t say this to anyone apart from the dude she calls daddy and is obsessed with because he owns her or some shit
Lmao I actually pity her imagine tryna play off that ur relationship is solid and amazing and all ur life revolves around n then the dudes ‘not ready to be made public/doesn’t want the spotlight on him’ as a daddy but can talk about all his kinks and fucking his friends etc
Sad life she has overall
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How is this content different from before?
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Her face is so fucking punchable that retarded duck lip she does to make it look like she actually has lips
Sage for nitpick
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So she e begs because of the fact that her benefits got cut, and then she spends this much money on makeup?
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Y’all sure this ain’t just the weed that Rosie’s been smoking just piled onto a pizza cause that shit looks gross
God I hate that ahegao face every edgy girl is doing now. >>825053
Trash can pizza
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Look guys she’s holding her hair in an awkward way and posing in her bedroom rather than the hallway. Such refreshing new content! Maybe she’s going to try to not be a negative cunt anymore? But I doubt it.
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Daddy’s got you some skanky pizza and your single daddy is posing in your bathroom again. How long are you tits gonna keep up the facade? He’s too ashamed to go public with you coz ya cringe and so he can keep fucking around.
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Was this his little diss at the other situation lmao
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Who in their right mind would take advice from psycho “girlfriend” and fatboi
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a podcast? thats always the low effort move from d-class content creators whose personalities aren't remotely entertaining enough to carry 30-60 minutes.
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i need likes to validate my own self-worth
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Weird flex but okay
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We've figured out what's different with her recent posts! Now it all makes sense.
Maybe a nitpick but why ask for people's thoughts then say "I'm happy with it whatever I don't care"
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shes running out of ideas
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im sure jude feels nice when daddy promotes naked women rather than her account
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Of course she likes Melanie Martinez
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Jude does realize that Brendon didn’t start making what’s generalized as pop music until 2017 and that everything else he’s made before that is alternative music also what does she mean by “Stop” girl your Jealousy is showing. sage for emo rant
This is why she started out on alt cows. She has even said goth is not about the music kek. People say that when they don't like the music, to try redefine goth so they can use the label themselves. If you want to dress alt go ahead, just don't throw around a label and misinform people about a whole subculture that doesn't have the greatest rep. Jude legit thinks sound cloud rap is goth.
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1: who tf asked for this (no one)
2: why would anyone pay for something which is all she actually does which is mundane black and white looks
3: how fuckin insane can you get if you want people to pay you to do looks that you do anyway and no normal influencer gets their followers to pay for something as fucking stupid as a look that they’ll be posting on Instagram she’s actually tapped
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Couples that E beg together(emoji)
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LMFAO I WAS JUST FUCKING STARING AT THAT!
Makes me think of middle school LMAO
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I'm amazed at the speed of everyone's decline into begging. Do you think they all mutually decided to beg at the same time so no single person gets singled out?
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Jude supporting chloe. Kink friendly ew.
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dollar store rotten hollow
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thought that looks familiar, that drawing in the middle is just copied from this drawing by @ evillittlethingx on instagram kek
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very natural, graceful pose
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yikes, i was willing to give her the benefit of the doubt that she at least credited the original artist but she didnt even do that. if this shows up on her store she is a true scumbag lol
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Also reminds me of shoppingcartfullofpinkturd
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I think this is her bf, she posted the image on her story and the guy looks similar enoughhttps://www.instagram.com/needsmorebanter/
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Literally scrolled slightly and can confirm, he’s disgusting
Blurred out her pic bc they could be minors
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Looks like she's taking a shit
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did shitboi copy this look from jude again?
I mean the look isn’t all that unique?
The doll/jigsaw look is done a lot
Do you know how he broke her heart I thought she said she cheated on him? She probably broke his heart and her playing the victim
put the blame on him
So I used to be in Clays server in the early days, before he started tripping on this idea of fame and being a celebrity>>827364
So at one point there was a 13 year old who put pictures of her thighs in NSFW and it stayed there for 3 days before it was removed, only then did the channel become 18+ only :( >>827538
And yeah, he’s so paranoid about Lolcow gossip that he rarely lets anyone into the server…so much for building a community
And on that note, his community is falling apart and he doesn’t even seem to care, he had Jude go off on a bunch of people (yes a 26 year old man needs Jude to fight his battles and attack his “fans”) and since then it’s been dead (to my knowledge)
-I have receipts if y’all are interested?-
What a piece of shit. Sure, we're interested in the screencaps.
Still, I don't understand why would Jude choose him from all people. Maybe he is her Patreon?
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I didn’t need much convincing….here’s the altercation where Clay set his attack dog on a “fan”
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Hopefully they send in order (there’s a few, bear with me)
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So as long as you agree with Jude you handle a situation correctly
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Fast forward to a few days later
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Lmao who tf thinks a healthy friendship is agreeing with people 100% of the time no questions asked no wonder they don’t have any real friends
It’s normal to discuss and debate stuff as friends and fall out cause it’s a relationship like it will have developments etc but noooo your opinion differs slightly to clays so u can’t be his friend
Tbf who would want to be
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He deserves every skinny Homer Simpson vagina girl in the world
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So I’m gonna post the damage control pics, but honestly they’re so cringe, after not being present for months Jude and clay were suddenly posting in every chat. It wasn’t even stuff of substance, they were just like…”see we’re not homophobic, we support you” and then didn’t say anything else
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They were just all over the place trying to make themselves funny and relatable and it was laughable, like….we already know you’re garbage
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Like….nobody is talking here, and you guys take it upon yourselves for these fake ass conversations to get people’s attention (Sorry, not buying it)
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Some of the others that used to be in the discord have screens they’re sending to me too, there’s just so much bullshit
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Sorry, I didn’t mean to infuriate, just don’t wanna spam shit no one wants lol (I’ll just assume yes from now on)
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There’s also this…
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thought these were particularly cringe and gross
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THIS is the creature who wants a homer simpson vagina, double d tits, cute ass, and skinny waist with no defects or deformities of any kind. ladies?
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This was the screenshot from jazmins story when the stuff w them went down , I didn’t get their username in which I’m annoyed at myself for now
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who would want to have a piece of dandruff flake like shitboi whisper into their ear? asmr is another in a list of lazy content that d-class "influencers" do.
what are you talking about? the gap between 26 and 23 is very different to the gap between 18 and 15 because in the former, they're both adults (and both in their near-mid/mid 20s). would you say that a 40 year old & a 43 year old shouldn't be friends?>>828302>>828301
these are very embarrassing, but to an impressionable young teenage girl, the "okay" with a sad emoji can be pretty manipulative if it's done a lot. guys like clay try to portray themselves as non-threatening and nice guys to groom girls. really the intent is obvious to adult women and outsiders but when you're a teenage girl who looks up to him, you just see his positive attention.
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Askssksksk this is the most embarrassing thing I’ve read in my life
Not to concentrate on the least
embarrassing bit but who tf lists they hate cats I’m screaming
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This is the ad that popped up on the page when I opened it
Yes something more appealing than clay
There isn't ONE goth band he listens to. Same as Jude, she never mentioned a goth band she listens to to my knowledge.
They both are trend squatters and I hope if they try to enter the goth community, they get torn apart. Sure, impressionable teens might be all over them for the spooky aesthetics, but goth is a music-based subcilture. No one would ever take thm seriously.
Sorry for sperg/blog, but I have a hard time even calling myself goth as someone who follows the aesthetic/culture, but mostly listens to industrial, so those two getting recognized as goth (or goff, whatever) just pisses me the fuck off.
seriously asking myself where he heard that goths don’t go outside
no dude that just means you have poor social skills and are an asshole
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So we know how Judes anti porn and shit like that right? Well Shit boi here, as per usual gotta go and copy his “best friend” and go to his discord and tell everyone how porn and masturbating is bad.
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Whoops posted the last photo fiirst ignore that
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And the last one again, my apologize
That's not even a topic someone would discuss with their friends. Why is he taking to strangers about something like that?
Maybe he should try going out and losing his virginity, instead of being online 24/7 talking about how long he didn't masturbate and pressuring women into sending nudes.
Only a man with a massive superiority complex and inability to not be self absorbed would be intimidated by a sex toy “that’s some cuck shit”
God he’s one pathetic disgusting little man I can’t wait for his fall from grace(well complete mediocrity)
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no one gives a shit about you or your thoughts. the only ones that do are us cause we want to laugh at you for being an idiot.
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I just cant with how fucking dumb this dipshit is. He literally @‘s the girl asking her if irish people say that. A plead for her to start talking again maybe? Getting desperate much? Not to mention shes a mod, for “emotional support”
Reading all of this is infuriating, how can these kids be so blind at how shitty their "idols" are? Clay is such a sad little piss baby having to have Jude wall of text shame people out of his chat.
The fact that they both think that if the person isn't on their knees blowing you then they're not your friend. I'm glad Rosie doesn't have to deal with Jude's bitching anymore.
did she make that new intro herself? because if so props to her for actually making something
but saying that, I doubt she did
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Nobody at all:
No one on this planet:
Jude: I’m so glad my video about my love for black veil brides in 2019 help you guys so much
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jude was the first one to join the discord lol
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sadboi fishing for compliments as usual
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how tf is sadboi allowed to be on here then lmao
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someone mentioned yuri on ice during her stream and she said "your gay is showing i'm not dealing w it"
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You’re a dudebro, aged 26 that mentioned in his rambling podcast of nothing that you borrow money off your parents to support your ‘lifestyle’ - you’re not talented, you’re not hustling - just fuck off
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inspired by rotten yet again
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Just saw this on a video … I thought Jude said she would convince Chloe to not like jaz and shit lol
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i think sadboi deleted the lolcow video lmaoo
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i dont think you linked the right vid….?
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She can’t go a second without begging for her followers attention to feed her ego
Oh fuck sorry https://youtu.be/jHMoa2USCiw
that’s it , they changed the title round from
Barcrofts og to something that was never said by anyone
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jude isnt gonna like this LOL. their plans to move in will already crumble
>>829406>haven't done a Q&A in a while
what?? all you ever do are Q&As. you can't go a day without having your fanbase pretend to be interested in what you have to say?>ask something new and engaging, read the FAQ first
ffs what is with her entitled ass. your fans shouldn't have to wade through a bunch of your garbage just to ask YOU a question. if you get the same question just don't answer it.>don't ask what makeup i use cause i proper don't care
sorry your fans take interest in the only thing you do besides hauls.
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I can’t imagine Jude actually exercising tbh and nobody is saying that “heathy” goth is bad lmao but Jude is barley goth herself so she wouldn’t know
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I’ve found Fatbois personal/failed music career account
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He has made a goddamn song for Jude lol
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Oh you hate cats do you? Busted!
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I’m straight edge and sickened by drug users, but I pretend on the gram I sip lean before I met my self righteous wank doll Jude
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>lists himself as single
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wow. what good advice, rotten. not totally obvious at all.
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Looks like she's just having personal issues. I wonder why
Omg guys I feel so sad today, like I vaguepost about every other day, without any explanation why because that's private even though I also bring it up so much. Pay attention to me. I'm so real, deep and different.
Saving the world one whine at a time. Keep it up Bishop.
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the contour omfg he doesnt even blend it out, i thought he had a neckbeard at first holy shit
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Goth my ass, not even sports goth. Putting on some poorly executed makeup and wearing gray sweats?! He looks like a pudgy baby. You can’t sort that neckline with a dirty black chin strap.
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Something is definitely going on between them two, Judes really sad and hanging out with this new guy called Jamie @pyromantic_prince who is definitely her type! And rotten posts this^ it's says "what a mess"
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But she can't take her eyes off lolcow…
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Not sure if milk
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Trouble in paradise!
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How did rotten go from this to a Jake lookalike? He also smokes - unless he stopped but there is a photo of him smoking.
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He looks basic without makeup.
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Not the exact photo of him smoking but here's one. Doesn't matter if it was a vape or not - doesn't make him straight edged. Maybe a nitpick, especially since quitting is a thing, but…this exists.
don't fucking encourage him.>>831995
is right, he looks as basic as they come.
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she truly is changing the world. What an inspiration.
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Nah. They’re hanging out at an Andy Black concert tonight. Looks like they’re good.
I don’t think she could name a single goth band without using google. Just another fake wannabe insta goth like Toxic
crybaby who licks Killstars ass.
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Come on, the two of you just admit that you’re banging - but fuckboy rotten shallow won’t have any of it I guess.
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Up to date slug compilation
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our goff kween is here to remind us that not drawing loads of chains and inverted crosses and shit on your face is baby bat behaviour
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Am I the only one that doesn't understand Jaz's whole being trans thing? She dresses like a lolita-uwu-nymphette and has girly long hair, how is she dysphoric? Wouldn't she want to hide that she's a girl?
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Holy shit they managed to make the sim look as retarded as Jude
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/tinfoil/ but this thread has one anon who doesn’t seem to know how to reply to posts and only talks about that jaz chick
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Speaking of…the only people who look at your unwanted content is us…to laugh at it.
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This was a few days ago but why does she always post about being ~sad~? Especially for someone who tries so hard to be edgy and deep and equates herself to Batman. Unless this is one of her ways of showing how deep she is. Her last line is hypocritical, she never "does" anything about being sad except do generic vagueposts. Also simpering about rotten hollow again, is whatever they seemed to be arguing about over now?
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You just know fatboi is so fucking jealous right now
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Is pyro an anachan on top of being a fakeboi? Look at that ribcage.
please learn to sage >>833353
does he even have patrons? why would anyone listen to him
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shitboi really added "don't say sorry if you don't mean it" to his bio instead of #youcantkillanidea. god how unbearable. if you dont want to apologize, fine, but dont go around parading it like youre tough. you got into a stupid argument with a literal teenager about a makeup look, insulted her on a livestream, and now you're putting this little tag in your description like the insecure little worm you are. i wonder if this is directed towards jude as well, seeing how jude (surprisingly) apologized.
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Rosie made 3 stories dedicated to Jazbeans brand
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Yoooooo it doesn’t say he’s single anymore and it says ‘let’s save the world together’ hello Jude’s daddy ur finally admitting to it slowly but surely
Also in his stories he talk about being more vegan and not smoking anymore lmao
He also talks shit and tells someone who doesn’t like their body to ‘make it better’
Confirmed: Jude’s daddy is as trashy as she is (guess we knew already tho)
Eh, it comes with the territory. She doesn't have to upload pictures of her arms at all, it can easily be cropped. She likes the outcry, means she can play the ickle baby victim
Her arms are absolutely triggering
to some people.
She's also showing them on purpose cause she wants people to notice, there's no reason to stand like that>>834588>being daddys only baby and princess
Oh wow, good on her going down that pedophile route
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He’s still following her and he commented on her most recent photo which he hasn’t done in quite some time.
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Do we reckon she made this account herself or do you think there’s a poor kid out there who’s actually devoted their time to this
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Pyromaniac prince’s bio says he/him yet he tags his posts as non binary and androgynous lmao
I know right, at some point it looked like she was about to make Rosie cry tbh>>836578
for real though, good for Rosie to get out of there
It made me sad when Rosie really had a cracking voice and tears in her eyes and Jude just sitting their like excuse me, all the time you state you still cool but you cannot for once say sth even like "hey, it is okay"?
I mean I totally get that drugs, no matter if weed or heroin, can destroy a friendship - i couldnt handle my best friend suddenly smoking weed either but how must Jude habe treated her that she was literally scared for months to twll her best friend…
Rosie deserves better. She is by far not the perfect girl but seems so lovely and genuine compared to Jude
Jude really comes across as very controlling so I'm not shocked that Rosie was scared, she still sounds like it in the vid.
I'm also straight edge too-someone needs to tell jude its no excuse to be an ass to people especially if you were friends with them. I get they have to live apart but when jude was like "yeah we're not gonna see each other ever again" like-isnt that extreme? Maybe its good because tbh rosie deserves a better friend.
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I remember Jude once mentioned that it is fine if they do whatever but are honest - which Rosie wasnt.
Cant blame Rosie though
Idk they were originally thinking jude would move but she is unemployed so Rosie is instead, so that doesn’t fit into the idea of her having a different motive.
I think the issue is that Jude is black and white about things and is upset that Rosie isn’t the same as her with beliefs. From how they talk they were really similar when they met and probably bonded. Rosie grew up once she met ppl and moved to London. Jude has not. So it isn’t really about weed, it is just an example of how Rosie has changed and Jude cannot handle it. She is upset about the not knowing everything Rosie does thing.
But if Chloe is someone she met as a smoker, then it’s already a different friendship. There is no pretending that they are sooo similar and think the same. I also don’t think Chloe will be a push over, especially since Jude needs them to have a place to live since she has like 2 friends
Probably the real reason they fell out too, Jude is immature and hasn't grown as a person since 14, while Rose has. Bet it was little things building up over time and the weed thing just sending it all over the (straight) edge.
Agree with >>83677
, she's ok with her ddlg friends smoking cos she knew up front, Rose "secretly" starting weed is betrayal in her mind. Rose could've told her and stopped her blowing up, but hey maybe that's exactly why she held off telling her. Either way, good they can still share a laugh, but yeah stop sharing living space. Rose, find a friend who appreciates you.
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>>836568>jude really values the truth>lets her boyfriend pretend hes single for months on end
yeah ok sure
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>jude is the special guest
it's not like he has any other friends
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It seems the general response to the vid is that most people think Jude is controlling and being really over the top. Imagine being so arrogant that you feel you have the moral high ground to basically kick someone out because 'they've changed' and being proud that you've stayed the same since you were 14. What the hell is Jude gonna do when her baby friends are all stoned in their rooms shagging their daddies? She's going to be livid.
Side note, she looks dirty because she doesn't know basic colour theory and just uses black eye shadow rather than varying darker tones.
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Chloe is no longer moving in with jude, along with metal princess.
Knowing Jude she probably told them to become straight edge before they move in to the appartment.
Hopefully she has money from her family or she'll be kicked out in no time.
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jesus christ this image…… also she edited her fringe to look more white terribly. look at the edge of the fringe
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Think she’s legit black and white filtered that section of her hair bc part of her forehead is done on this one kek nice try Jude
I was gonna say jude must have some decent cash if she can live alone in london-even outer greater london is expensive.
Unless this is the reason they said rosie isnt getting kicked out yet-they are waiting for jude to find another flatmate(s) so she can afford to let rosie go.
On one side I understand that they bonded over straight edge bullshit and Jude's disappointed that Rosie started smoking and couldn't be honest with her. On the other side I totally understand that Rosie, instead of Jude, matured. She doesn't owe Jude an explanation for every thing she does and I totally understand why she was scared of Jude and rather stayed silent.
If I had a roommate who was aggressive and crazy 24/7 I'd be scared about telling them something that'd piss them off, too.
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New post. I hope this Daddy trip brings some milk.
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Jude you’re clearly keeping an eye on this thread
Excuses about shitty hair editing enclosed
I mean I think they were trying to talk about discriminating against trans
people's genitals, but they instead said "if you base attraction on anyone's
genitals you're ignorant." They know what sexual preferences means right? A gay girl will more likely want someone with a vag. And Jude specifically said "ignorant" when a few times on IG she said she's strictly into cocks. Hmm.
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This is all I can see
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Its only okay when jude is transphobic
More like its only Jude who gets to use words period. Theres no explicit language and like the tamest basic "neopronouns are dumb" but in a fake deep way which people are allowed to say
Jude can't seriously sit around getting fingerbanged while pretendig to be a toddler and talk about that publically without being reported, but a random you dont agree with can't post something? Very censorship, v not radical of you Jewd.
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clayton in his true form
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Cow crossover with rottingd0ll on her newest post
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From the discord
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his makeup is so messy
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Chloe is hanging out with rosie
she didn't address why she chose the word rotten on one of the dummys.
She spent £40 on the two..hows the employment going Jude?
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Did her patreon subs fall? I thought she made around $90 from patreon
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New post. When will she learn that people follow her mostly because of the way she looks?
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Jude is losing friends as Rosie gains them all. Or, at the very least, keeps them. Peep pyromantic.
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Literally having to cover their hands bc it’s rotten and he has tattoos all over em
Lmao remember when she refused to answer things or reveal anything about him but now it’s the only content she can make bc she’s such a shut in
and metal princess and clo don’t follow her etc anymore soo he’s literally all she has it’s kinda sad
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Discreet. Also if u check out the pics he's been tagged in he creates looks that mimic that of his g/f at the time… Just sayin'(lolcow.farm/info)
Right now we don't know and I kinda doubt Chloe will say anything about the situation, but it really could be about the weed thing or whatever and the way Jude treats Rosie. Jude is technically being a massive hypocrite for getting all worked up over Rosie doing shit when her boyfriend was doing the same thing, if not worse, but somehow couldn't tolerate Rosie doing whatever she wanted as an adult.
This is only tinfoil/speculation but it's a big possibility and can be one of many different reasons.
Of course Jude's always been a lazy ass. And if her mum is rich enough to consistently fund that no wonder she's so spoilt and entitled.>>844247
He showed off the plane tatt in the vid posted upthread about answering trans questions with Jude, said it was "special" to him
Both of you do/did you know them personally and what other milk do you have
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Just an example of how attention starved he consistently is.
Here’s the link to said article that quotes his interview with a magazine that he reached out to despite that email: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-6467883/British-pilot-hailed-hero-crash-landing-South-African-mountain-top.html
If you scroll down you can see his “dramatic” retelling of the incident. Clearly the number one priority when your family including your mum is in the hospital and being treated for serious burns.
He also brought it up multiple times on his Instagram story and still posts and constantly talks about it on his Youtube. That email isn't a normal thing for the UK.
If you look at any of his recent videos he always brings up the crash, even got a tattoo of a plane for it even though in his advice Q&A he says he only likes it aesthetically (Jude is also in the video)
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Why would anyone want to be Jude? A closed minded childish fake goth
By saying this, that means she's proud of her own self as a person. How sad is that? And she's always saying fake-deep life coach stuff like improve yourself and be who you want, and acting like she's worked hard on herself. When in reality she's a petulant child.>>844368
Sounds like a cow himself. Please keep spilling anon, to give us an idea of the person Jude is happily friends with. (Btw does Jude know any of this about him?)
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Still pushing that fake bisexual thing. When I see her say stuff like this, her "strictly into cocks" IG story comes to mind…>>844434
Love how she calls herself a creator when all she "creates" is Q and As, bathroom selfies, and hauls. But then again the YTers she listed like toxic
tears and Jake munro are real lazy themselves, so.
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jamie is also not straightedge and smokes cigs. add another to the list of hypocritical friendships
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sage because it's not Jude, but does Tabby hate Rosie or something?
I used to know him. Here's a list.
Pretends to be poor, made his mum pay £5000 for him to get private top surgery despite claims his main source of funding was from working & gofundme
Only got £3000 for maintenance loan, got given £3000 by his family and his mum paid for his accommodation
Then said SFE were unfair because they didn't give him more money lol
Also refused to buy toilet paper and stole it from uni because he was so "poor"
Had his mum pay for accommodation in Japan where he never stayed and didn’t pay towards bills when living with his girlfriend
Had accommodation in the most expensive place in York (£156 a week) yet lived with his girlfriend instead and never paid bills.
Used his Gofundme money on a 2k gaming laptop for Minecraft and Sims
Couldn't raise enough money to make other people pay for taking his dog home from Japan, got his mum to pay £3000 for it anyway
Refused to pay rent in Japan for months just because ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Went to private school, still stupid
Spent two and a half years of uni talking about dropping out, dropped out in third year with 5 months left, and is now talking about going back
Would complain about not being able to do his homework because he was too popular and people kept talking to him
Would actually spend most of his time when he was meant to be doing homework distracting other people from doing their homework instead
Constantly talks about how depressed he is but refuses to see a doctor
Constantly talks about how anxious he is but refuses to see a doctor and also doesn't show any signs of anxiety
Said something to the effect of eating more vegetables helped him get over his depression, so it can help anyone get over their depression~! (He doesn’t eat vegetables, or consume water)
Also said he overcame anxiety because “some stuff happened”
Seriously claims that he has PTSD from falling into a puddle and also his mum braking hard one time when driving
As a result of this “PTSD” he forced his ex to drive him to where he was staying (with his late uncle who he hated) even on days that she was working and attending classes (about 4 hours in total). He didn’t do any chores and complained about having to take care of the dog all by himself when the dog is ultimately his responsibility.
Fetishises mental illnesses.
Says he once got tested for autism just because someone “offered him the opportunity” and he was like yeah okay
Doesn't think other people's mental health problems are real (probably because his aren't) & judging by the way he talks about them he views mental illnesses as a sign of immaturity e.g. says he overcame anxiety because a bunch of stuff happened and forced him to grow up
DRUGS & ALCOHOL:
Anti-drugs but smokes weed
Was vegan to have the moral high ground over other people, would eat meat when drunk or when convenient to him
Is now sober to have the moral high ground over other people
Would go to drinking parties, not drink and complain that people were drunk, or complain about spending money going out just to drink soda.
Has openly claimed to be addicted to energy drinks and cigarettes but they’re just bad habits.
Brags about taking care of a paralytic drunk
Stopped smoking and then started again just so he could "socialise"
Told everyone in his gap year he did nothing but have orgies in Exeter
Humblebragged about how he's slept with over 50 people
Tries to sleep with everyone he's friends with
Sexualises everyone but then tries to act holier than thou. Usually acts like a typical perverted old man would when making comments about women.
Grinds on his mum when drinking
Gets his dildo and chains out to show people at any opportunity
Says that his sex drive is so high he can't go without having sex
Flaunts his “kinks” but is hesitant to engage in anything not vanilla. Not an issue in itself, but the lie and false image is.
Sent pics of his kinky scratches to his mum
Somehow manages to slut shame as a result of him sexualising everyone and everything.
Hinted that he was gang raped at a young age for clout
Obsessed with calling himself a fuckboi
Acts like he can play guitar, won't ever tune it
Refuses to believe or accept anything is his fault ever, down to making minor mistakes about a word
Is only friends with Jude because he can leech off her following
Wants to be an influencer but doesn't have an upload schedule, and rarely does anything.
Makes fun of kpop while using it for attention (the dancing, the hair)
Thinks he's better than literally everyone with no proof
Wanted to change his name to Sora
Kept trying to bring his dog and his guitar to uni for the attention – did two academic presentations about his dog, for whatever clout he thought he might get from “rescuing a Stray Japanese Dog from Japan who responds to Japanese”.
Tried to sell his clothes on Facebook to his fans while offering to spray them with his "unique" cologne deodorant smell ABUSIVE
Drops people when they stop being useful to him or see through his bullshit
Makes no effort to maintain friendships
Talks about how he got "bullied" but the girl later apologised to him and now they're friends, it was just that she was jealous of him
Cancels other people but remains friends with someone who he outed as a rapist
Says he won't get involved in drama while being the biggest shit stirrer in the middle
Was friends with some people, bitched about them to others and lied to OG friend saying other people bitched, not him.
behaviour on his PMS, or on the other person!
Thinks nobody has the right to be mad at him for his behaviour in general
Picks at the insecurities of others but gets defensive if someone unknowingly says something that upsets him
Talks openly about how he manipulates people (or tries to)
Constantly talks about how social media is poisonous but is literally using social media to fuel his attention seeking needs
Won’t accept other people’s boundaries
Couldn't stand [redacted classmate] being transphobic but this Jude is all cool
Misgenders NB people but gets /triggered
/ if someone misgenders him despite also identifying as NB.
Once bitched about getting gendered correctly (as male) the one time he wanted to be gendered as female just to get into a club for free
Acted like the people in Japan had some LGBT+ phobic agenda to him personally, but received only praise, because he wants to be oppressed so badly.
Is cis-passing but shames or looks down on those who arent.
Had a weird thing for wearing a wig and makeup and acting like it's weird that he can pass for female and/or looks like his sister
KEEPS BRINGING UP THE CRASH FOR ATTENTION
Even though he hated the people.
Had a gofundme to go to SA but never went, bought a laptop instead.
The ‘robbery’…just so happened to steal his passport. He had £500 lying around for the robber to steal and left his laptop and bank cards out (even though he keeps his bank cards in his phone case lol)
Made a video about the plane crash “ABOUT THE PLANE CRASH” and spent most of it talking about his dog
Every time the social media attention about the plane crash dies down, he mentions it somewhere else so that people will give him attention for it
False rape claim because he didn't like that the dude was cis.
Framed his first uni ex as abusive
but would constantly cheat on her under the guise of ‘being poly’.
Framed his ex as a raging alcoholic in order to brag about being “sober”. Still drank.
Is completely useless when he doesn't have a girlfriend to mother him
Stayed with his gf all summer while she worked full time and studied Japanese and he did nothing except cuddle her dog
Berated said ex for not being accustomed to first-class flights
Had a weird thing for being younger than his last ex, constantly made digs at her for being older and made jokes about her being a pedo
Takes on the "aesthetic" of whoever he's fucking e.g. super emo with his gf in first year, fairly normal with his next girlfriend, now it's Jude so he's going back to the edgelord phase
Says the longest he’s not been in a relationship for is 3 months (since the age of 12)
I've been looking at his Instagram for a while and he constantly uploads videos of him 'dancing', 'playing' guitar or singing. It's cringy, especially the Kpop dances.
Also, I noticed a lot of his tags mention 'model'. Anyone of you knows if he was/is actually a model.
Wait, so one he invited his mum drinking at University? Was it just him and his mum so weird?
And Two he grinded on his own mother. How did he have any friends?
No he's not a model and never has been. He's trying to become a model presumably because he wants more people to fawn over him and doesn't want to get a real job. Also he says he works part time right now but I don't believe that given he's never felt compelled to get a job at any other point in his life. >>844731
His mum, sister, and a group of his university friends. Sister was okay, they're close in age. Took his mum to the SU though lol. Also one of his girlfriends looked lowkey like his mum.
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The originality. Could he try any harder to leech off other people lol
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you can literally see the exact moment he turned goth lol
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aren’t podcasts supposed to have like, a topic, or be informative, or even theatrical sometimes?
WHAT the fuck are they doing? Theyre video chatting and then uploading it to YouTube. Fucking narcissists!!!
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I tried listening to some of Fatboi’s podcasts for the lol factor, but had to abort because I felt myself getting dumber.
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it's a teenager.
teenagers adopt subcultures over night because hormones and emancipation and feeling out personality borders.
welcome to adolescence 101
>where. is. the. milk.
He has this weird thing where he has to be around another person at ALL times. Though if he seems to be living with Jude now they're probably fucking if not dating by now. Dickhead can't go too long without having sex (:
If they're not sleeping together or dating I'll be real surprised. Honestly since he "loves kink" and preys on power imbalances, I'm sure he's into the whole DDLG thing. Is she older than him? Because I bet he loves that too. He'll be getting off on calling her a pedo while acting all daddy towards her. He's literally disgusting.((:)
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>>847525Let’s stop this fan/ influencer bullshitlabels things as fan art or fan make up
I could go on but we all know she contradicts herself so fucking often
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Wonder what that means, is Jude the one moving out now?
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Ah but unless it's you or Clay, right?
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✌️(don't use emojis)
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good reading skills y'all
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It’s almost like goth is a music based subculture and that your not goth at all Jude
So did blanks mum send this to her to post here, or do we have a mother daughter farming team on our hands?
I do hope that the “him” doesn’t infer we have a scrote in our midst.
I would not call Jude goth by any stretch…she is absolutely pretending…
But it feels worth noting that there /are/ some sub-genres of Goth that aren't music based, and you can be into those sub-genres without listening to traditional goth music, and still be goth. Stuff like Steamgoth, Victorian Goth, and Strega.
THAT being said, none of that applies to her since she doesn't identify as any of those anyway.
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Ahh yes Jude your flat as fuck as fuck ass is fantastic content.
I also love how because she’s so boring and literally doesn’t do anything half interesting she makes multiple posts for each look like anyone gives a shit
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She's so desperate to be an influencer
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They both have such dull monotonous content. It’s sad to think of them both pulling faces at their phone for these ‘photo shoots’ Imagine them pouring over 100s of samey shots wondering which one(s) will make the cut, it’s for the fans!
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does shitboi have a gf now? how the fuck
It is, but she always has small spelling errors, and she's so thirsty to be an influencer you think she'd care. She cares about clout, but not doing content.
It shows with her vids too, she talks big about saving the world then does haul videos that YT is already full of. If she cared she'd do stuff unique to her. But apart from the makeup she's pretty generic, maybe she should work on that, and her god complex and saviour complex issues, first.
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>lists himself in his top 5 songs
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the thirst continues
calling your girl a "stripper bitch" then turning around and thirsting on Jude again. >>850687
This man really is absolute trash.>>850499
Calm down with the cringe fatboi.
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remember kids, if this crusty mole rat can find love, you can too
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More bad hair editing
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surprisingly normal, definitely out of his league though.
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Okay but how didn’t someone as ugly and un likable as fat boi get a girlfriend has this chick even looked on his Instagram or to see who his best friend is lmfao
Sage for no contribution
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They still comment on each others post despite being friends?
Her eyes look like they’re not on speaking terms. They fit together perfectly >>850257
Imagine not having friends and having to ask for weed on social media oof
She's definitely not good looking, but pedoboi? Ew.
Wonder what will happen because of his obsession with Jude, can't see anyone being ok with their bf obsessing over another woman.
>>851625>supreme hat>pervert beanie>SAO sword
Jude's literally got the fashion sense and personality of a 14 year old fuckboy lol, pretty fitting since she's apparently had the same personality since she was 14>>851639
She's an obnoxious twat so I'm really not surprised that she vapes but yeah her BDSM advertising has become really blatant lately even though most of her audience is like 14 year old girls, she especially seemed to be pushing it in her last video by advertising adult binkies.
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Does she realise who’s is that picture? She just keeps getting more gross with this kiddy fucking thing
she definitely does
she's talked about how she loves the anime
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Mosquitos spread disease. I'm gonna go-ahead and keep using bugspray.
It's easy to be self righteous when you don't live in a place with documented diseases spread by bugs.
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Jude just admit that you have no sexual or romantic attraction to females and that your not Bi or whatever you claim to be also the characters in the background look like their 13 fucking disgusting
This is from Yuru Yuri. They’re 13 year old girls.>>851889
And the boy here is 12
Seriously is she retarded?
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She is not bisexual. She only likes cute sub girls because that's how she sees herself, but she mistakes that as sexual attraction because ddlg is sexual for her
. An adult would be able to tell this but she's the same mental age as her fans, so she can't.
Also being faux bi gives her brownie points for being trendy and she's a fame whore so.
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>>852386>I'm so against porn, unless they're soft animu gays uwu. It isn't real porn if it's cute cartoon characters!
Yeah tell that to boku no pico.
And generally, footage of a sex act made for an audience is porn, even if it was made from claymation.
>>852426>So does she think that gay and lesbian sex isn’t real sex
Hm to me it seems she's fetishising gays/lesbians, like how she pretends to be bi and how yuri and yaoi is ~so cute~ but totally not porn cos that's nasty. Oof
she might be a fujoshi/fudanshi. Like those "omg smol gay bean" people on Dumblr.
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"I dont hate nom vegans I just wish they weren't dumb!"
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Says the shut in.
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Shut the fuck up fat boi we all know you still lurk here
________>I don't want that negativity in my life
—–>I do wish awful and horrific things to them all tho
>AWFUL AND HORRIFIC
What did he mean by this? Is he saying that he's a positive person that spreads positivity?
>I don't pay it no never mind.
Yet, he responds about it. Why do people that claim to not care.. always give attention instead of ignoring shit?
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And fatboi somehow has a girlfriend (he jokes that she isn't, but I'm guessing that's banter) so why is he so obsessed with Jude still. You can be best friends without skin walking someone y'know.
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Jude: >i am the change, if you don't do that you're mundane
Also Jude: >haven't changed since 14! :)
Also also Jude: >why do people call me a hypocrite and hate on me ree you're stupid
But then also Jude: >i'm never triggered
, so chill, positive vibes
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Chloe is no longer with her daddy
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he is no longer in her bio
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Love how the vegans like peta and shit have turned the amazon burning for 3 weeks into a don’t eat meat campaign instead of donating to help put the fire out and praising the people who are actually trying to put it out in Brazil
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By not eating meat lol
Shut the fuck up. So not eating meat helps saves trees but who’s going to help all the underpaid and overworked migrant farmers who pick your fruits, veggies, and grains?
This is why I can’t stand vegans like Jude. They claim to be ethical, but besides not contributing to the exploitation of animals how “ethical” are you really?
Are you stupid? Most vegans (where I live anyway) don’t support those industries / main chain supermarkets. Everyone I know buys organic, home grown or market stock from local sources. Stop having a cry over vegans just because you can. Yes some vegans can be toxic
but like 70% of them aren’t like that at all. AT LEAST they are trying to help. Not trying to WK but the problem isn’t vegans
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So she’s a Jude clone who’s slightly prettier? Uh Rosie have fun I guess.
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that was quick
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Rosies girlfriend looks nothing like Jude (anon who said that) she is pretty though
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Clayton the predator strikes again ladies and gentlemen
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He kind of looks like Abby brown's ex Willy.
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he looks like a whole clown and has the audacity to judge womens’ appearances; i have to laugh
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He has terrible taste. And for someone who purports to have OCD, those nails are scummy as hell.
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He really has no right to judge anyone’s looks. Plus hair is one of the things he can control, and it looks like a bleached damaged poodle.
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I want to be surprised but somehow I’m not
can't be fucked to watch, but she said retarded within 10 seconds and I bet thats going to trigger
Kek bet she forgot all about it - in her "day in my life" video she put checking discord on her to do list like she might forget it.
By the way, milk on Jude has gotten pretty stale. She was milkier before so she got a thread but if this staleness continues should we move her back to the altcow general thread?
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Update on Rosie, apparently she isn’t gonna be staying in the apartment anymore.
First Jude was moving. Then Rosie. Then Jude again. Then back to Rosie. Wtf.
I thought Jude was moving in with pyro mantic prince anyway, did he bail or something?
Agree milk is stale, dk why she got her own thread in the first place tbh, but I sense something with the moving thing.
Rosie and Jude are going back and forth on who's leaving for months and people helping Jude move drop like flies eg her Little friends and pyro.
Also Jesus, pillsbury doughboy needs a life. Everything about him revolves around Jude, copying her style, speech, posting of IG pics, trying to be an an "influencer". It's just sad.
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Ew, balding fried hair, all time low for Fatboi.
Agreed, Jude is too boring for a thread of her own.
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And the milk dries up as the little girls realize you actually have to work to live in London. And fatboi carries on giving us looks that nobody asked for.
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She's back to leaving again
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She said she wasnt with her daddy, but then panned to this person??
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Oh this is her ex T. They are in a hotel together.
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Love how she just pulled down her shirt below her bra to make sure she has cleavage. If she wants to be sexy so bad, why not put in a little more effort??
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It's sort of clear that at least one side is in an open relationship.
In general, she's sat in a hotel bed with her ex with her bra clearly showing.
a daddy who live with he own parents
a shameful daddy
Could've just said "we trust each other and my ex and i are cool as friends, please don't assume" the end. But this is Jude and she just needs to have tantrums at her followers, even though she invites them to ask questions in the place of real content.
This will totally boost you to influencer status and doesn't make you look ungrateful at all Jude.
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>>872073>decided to my nudes
no idea how someone whose entire job is being online wouldn't give their own shit a second readover before posting
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he looks like toxic
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grabbing his plums. such a sexy daddy dom…how sad to be in your 20s buying a load of off the rack 'goth' clothes and dressing up just to take crusty pics in your shabby apartment to impress teenagers online because you don't have any real friends. he was such a normie before - you can't just buy killstar anf claim goth.
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Pyro uploaded selfies with jude with this caption?? 2 people who sit outside binaries of gender?? Is this her redemption for the jazminbean situation.