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The 6th thread for one of the absolute worst YouTube artists Baylee Jae. She's come under increased criticism over the past few months for her inability to take critique, general narcissism, excessive spending and hoarding of children's toys and art supplies, and laziness. She also draws like a 12 year old and has her very own instructional "How to Draw" book that was released November 2017. https://www.youtube.com/user/BayleeCreationshttps://www.youtube.com/user/BumbleBayleehttps://twitter.com/Baylee_Jaehttps://www.instagram.com/baylee_jae/http://www.bayleejae.com
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The what now?
People in the comments are being very honest about her content. Nobody is really interested in her art content and she's been losing steam for a while.
I actually wonder what might revitalize her channel, since she's been at this for such a long time now.
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I’m glad people are being honest with her. Her content now is more a crafty channel than an illustration channel
From her past vlogs, it looked like she does all the planning/artwork/editing within 2 days (roughly). So it feels like she is rushing to get it up and scheduled for the Saturday.
No idea if she still does that as I don't watch her vlogs anymore.
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Its not really the ways she edits or films (minus the green screen thing) its the content I find boring.
"i'm a lazy twat'
she's trying to figure out the best way to do bare minimum so she can have more videos up for the views/revenue. She wants max return for minimum effort. She should just turn into a regular vlogger without the art angle if it fuckin pains
her so much to do more than 1 piece per vid/week at this point.
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Will she like this one more than vidicon?
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Remember this fail haha! I can’t with the eyes…
Oh yeah! No doubt she lurks here.
I just find it weird how someone who has an art channel rarely ever draws. Now it’s mainly a crafty channel. If she does draw it’s a ridiculous subject…. like the (insert character) and making them a hot guy. Idk how she can be happy being a try hard oddball.
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Take note Baylee….
her thing of 'wanting it to look creepy' really sums up the basic problem with Baylee which is that she has NO TASTE WHATSOEVER. it's not just how hard she works, how skilled she is, etc - she has terrible terrible taste in everything. you can tell by the kinds of things she talks of as being 'pretty' in general - all the horrible disney shirts, Thomas Kinkade, etc.
she could become as skilled as anyone but she'll carry on making dreadful pictures because she likes things that look bad.
why anyone else buys her stuff is a whole other mystery.
Of course, sherk.
I can't even find these funny.
Jeez. Imagine the oil painting she could be doing instead of this. Even if it's just small test pieces.
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Lord, her anatomy is so bad. It looks like so stiff, and the muscles aren’t even right.
That's actually terrifying.
What is with art youtubers lately skirting the NSFW line when their main audience is minors, only for them to go "tee hee so scandalous" like, who is this even for
She unlisted the live stream of her at the kennels because she thinks it making her loose subs because she does charity work.
I think it's stupid that she has it hidden away so she can hit a milestone. Someone could click on it and check out that cat shelter's website and may donate/adopt but she's hidden it instead. Don't be ashamed in raising money for a cause.
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I agree with this persons statement aha!
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She’s doing the ‘Draw this in your style’ meme
That video was like a long bad vlog. It doesn't have any substance on it exactly for gushing over pink and "bebe"
Tell us about the quality the pricing,… Im not gonna bother writing cause she won't do it
Yeah there are lots of things to go through and make interesting topics even with the price. But laziness strikes again.
I'm now wondering if this is not laziness, what if she REALLY thinks this is good? I just got vidro recommendation on follow me around on Walmart and in her vlogs, those types of videos are popular. So maybe she's just doing the same thing thinkin that's what ppl want?
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GAHH, I hate the dopey ears she does….
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Those type of ears look familiar…
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why did she put this in the video? It's disgusting, nobody wants to see your massive double chin Baylee
I just despise how "Art" can be interchanged with "collectible" nowadays. Stickers, enamel pins, keychains… what's the fuckin point if you can barely see the image? Does anyone frame prints, anymore?
Every youtube artist makes their shit at a 4inch by 6 inch size, damaging the hell out of their wrists trying to work so small, and then the finished product isn't even visible from a few feet away.
Eh tbh they just look like generic "cute chibi" pokemon renditions. It's pretty basic and at least one booth sells a design similar to them at every major con.
I mean at least she knows what sells for once… but could she get anymore basic lmao
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No, you don't need this.
I'm not familiar with this girl at all but I'm sure I've seen her art floating around Twitter. I've definitely seen that first challenge sketch (which I like) but that second one…
(Also not familiar with Copics since I don't use markers so idk if her method is really the best)
Thanks for spotting it before it was too late.
I forget they are in different places depending on the app or desktop.
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Your daily view of her chin zits Hahahaha yuck
On twitter when she joke tweets about it. A devil emoji because she set a trap and something about sending the owner a ransom note. It's nice that she is trying to help the cat but come on.
I can already see it in one of her upcoming videos, ranting about other owners and how she knows best. She could help educate others about traps etc.
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I missed that, what happened?
The only thing I like about BJ is her cats, they are quite cute.
Animation is a great skill to have but she would rather draw and colour in generic girls with markers instead. Nothing wrong with that but having all that knowledge and skill set to be pushed a side for speed paint YouTube videos.
Does she even have an interest in animation anymore, outside of Disney, video games and Pokemon?
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You still ain't funny.
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Why does she make these stupid faces….?
ugly girls do this to be quirky and make themselves look like they're only ugly on purpose.
little do they know that cute people still look cute when they do this, just dumb.
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So this is her thing now.
I hope she is not just trying to target a certain audience now to help her subs grow.
Also how many buttons is she making!?! she complained that she ended up with leftovers rusting away in a cupboard.
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seriously, a girl with a giant banana between her legs?
stay classy baylee
also enjoyable typo on this fan's tweet
New to Baylee threads. Anyone have a link to the others?
Anyway, oh my god. This is the first video of hers I've seen in a year or two. The rest of the characters are fine I guess, but the first one she drew is so fucking terrible. She took all the uniqueness out of the character's face, and it wasn't just a 'stylistic choice.' I just don't get how she could fuck up the interpretation so badly. Even if it's the characters face, the type of face it had wasn't a stylistic take on how the artist generally draws faces. Also, the body. I'm gonna guess it was supposed to have a masculine body rather than tumblrina hairy legs shit. Though, I'm not sure myself, so that's probably nitpicking.
I'm gonna guess she suffers from some same-face syndrome by looking at her style. maybe she couldnt even draw a new type of 'face, despite it being a simple 2 dots and a line
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Of course she would pick the cringiest character to draw of all…
Picks ones that are all kids/girls.
It would be nice to see her get out of her comfort zone.
Like drawing a male who isn't Link.
Haven't seen any of her videos in half a year but this newer style of her's feels like a way to avoid improving on her anatomy. It's veeery doll like.>>649665
I kind of wish she kept the simplicity of the mask.
That and I wish she experimented with her poses. It's all girls either standing, sitting or floating, facing the camera or with a slight tilt in their body. The last drawing in profile view I found on her Instagram was from 2015. It just gets boring.
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Sage for blog post but does everyone else here watch the BJ vlogs because they yearn for a life where they can just sit around and make shitty art instead of having a real world job/responsibilities? I assume that's kind of the appeal of all vlogs, but as someone who is always strapped for money and does art on the side, it's kind of cathartic to watch someone have the easy/fun life you wish you could
>feels bad man
My problem with her is she doesn't need these threads to improve. Many of her fans have been giving and pointing out similar criticism for years. I found her through her marker reviews and started watching her vlogs from that. I stoped because she always has some snappy come back or excuse to her mistakes and it gets tiring hearing her complain about people pointing them out and her completely ignoring the details WHILE giving attention to it. If you actually don't care just stfu.
Imo her biggest hurdle is she's boring af. Jazza has clickbait and dumb challenges but he actually has the art skills to make them interesting. Then you look at Baylee and she has the most basic b ideas without interesting art to make her videos worth watching. There is nothing anyone above her juvenile level would find interesting in her drawing videos. She doesn't seem to understand that it's not what she's drawing that's the issue but her skill level. Headshots of a random girl can be nice speedpaints if the artstyle is interesting - it makes me want to see the process and perhaps learn new techniques. I look at her thumbnails and know anyone with basic art experience can probably tell how she drew it. She's bare bones - bottom of the barrel. Changing your basic style to another basic one isn't going to change that.
It's why her audience is majority children, their parents, or beginner artists. That and her focus on Disney, Spongebob, G rated video games etc.
Unless she can speed up her progress she should just embrace the children's artist label. It'll be easy to get 1mil from them, at least, and will give her an excuse to not improve.
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Hmm, interesting. I mean, she's got so many crazy expensive art supplies and buys so much random shit in her vlogs I just have to wonder. It seems like she sells a good bit at cons and stuff too, but would she even break even for travel and stuff for that if she's not a guest? I don't know enough about youtube or twitch monetization, any idea how much income she would be getting from that? I just find it all fascinating.>>651293
Yeah, I'm sage-ing this one because of nonsense questions, but why would that need to be sage-d? I was asking directly about her and her videos?
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I’m sure She’s secretly hoping Christian is Bi so she can join in on that…..
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Her fans draw better than her.
holy shit that's really cute.
Is this a remake of Baylee's art? Can somebody post the original?
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It’s really similar to this fan art that was in the Pixie thread. So someone has to be tracing/copying off of someone else
How is it “really similar”? They’re just cute animuh girls riding on objects. It’s like the most common thing ever and tons of people drew that thing before, tons will do it after. Plus it was based over BJ’s original picture, that is the girl riding the banana.
Don’t read too much into it, it’s just a case of overused posing/concept.
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She’s so desperate for subscribers to reach that million! It’s so damn annoying. She’s hella thirsty….
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I hope some of them go towards a giveaway but someone said in replies "…you can rubber band the same colors together to create a three tip marker" which she told them to remember this tweet when the Saturday video is up.
Just don't put them in a blender again please.
Sage things like this pls.
IMO Jazza is a good artist, but he isn't amazing and unique due to the things you have listed. But out of all the "mainstream" artubers, Jazza is the nicest. He seems like a genuine nice guy. Definitely better than Baylee by fucking lightyears.
>>649122>she's just stuck in 2007.
Of all the stupid insults. People wear tights in 2018. Jesus.
She just needs a shit ton of fashion help/advice. And to dress for her body not the body she wishes she has
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new to this thread so unsure if this has already been discussed, but she is a guest at anirevo this weekend. No way in hell am I going to her panels, but it blew my mind when I saw her name as a featured guest.
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Why must she make these ugly faces? WHY?
She isn't cute, she's ugly ffs..
She’s trying to be Quirky Relatable….
It’s annoying baylee!!!
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Can’t she ever keep her cat off the damn workspace and out of frame….
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Looks absolutely nothing like her….
two left legs
pipe cleaner arms
bizarre and unfortunate red knickers with a darker blob on the crotch - eww
limbs that are only vaguely attached to the body and not in any way that resembles human limbs
I mean I hate all of it, but.
Baylee really fell for the "I'm going to add EVERYTHING I like to this costume" school of shitty design. Jesus christ what a mess.
Has she ever made a comment about sharing a similar name to a tranny porn star?
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She hit a million guys……. eyeroll….
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Oh yeah Baylee…. now you thank your fucking subscribers. All she cares about is numbers
Maybe she can shut up about it now.>>656793
This is straight up a knock off betty-spaghetti doll.
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am I the only one who sees the resemblance of this drawing to Star Vs The Forces of Evil?
I was at AR all weekend and saw her. It was so surreal seeing my first person from lolcow irl. I didnt approach her but the first time I saw her she was at her table talking to a camera she was holding. So expect some sort of AR vlog I guess.
Also I only ever saw 2 people carrying around her prints that they bought. One waluigi and one of that botw scene.. I wonder if she'll claim she sold ~so much guiz~
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I thought she would at least do a video/giveway on her channel as not everyone can watch her twitch all day.
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I can’t with these explanations haha
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Everyone looks so bored at her panel… hahaha
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The art she’s demonstrating looks awful. Color scheme is just… bad
How long was the panel?
Couldn't she be bothered to draw a new drawing for it?
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Maybe mute your mic or something!
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Uhhhhh have we talked about how she's selling buttons of her cat's fur for $5 a set yet? Bitch what the fuck
This actually looks gross, I know people who make little necklaces and things with their own
pets' hair, but why would anyone buy this?
To be fair I'm not sure how she would even do that. Pretty sure she just dropped a bunch of car fur in her button press to see if it would work. She didn't seem to mention them again in any of the con stuff so maybe she realized they looked like pubes and didn't actually try to sell them?>>662016
Idk, it's from her most recent con prep vlog, she said something like>There are people who would actually buy this! Hehehe I probably would if there were pets I watched a lot online!
Seriously, Baylee…. all people have bowel movements, what makes you think people are interested in yours… fucking nasty.
She has no shame, her gross out humor is supposed to make her relatable and oh so funny, but it comes across to me as sleazy and gross.
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Also her 24 hour stream is live right now.
This is her one million subs video then.
She has not actually drawn a million of them and just tells her story about youtube.
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Baylee in that thumbnail lol
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Has anyone else seen this? Waffles drew it for Baylee but it just feels shady to me.
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Bubble buddy as a hot guy…… ………. …………
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Seriously… that’s her $3000 stream reward…?
I personally thinks it almost borders on flattering to Baylee - her real hair is flat and she is in no way shape or form an hourglass body type. Though, I'm not sure Baylee is even aware of that second part based on her magical girl drawing and he way she dresses.
I do wonder how much interaction with Baylee from other artists is just because of her follower count?
This series is like something you would have posted on deviant art and then be embarrassed by it a few years down the line.
Please yes. Minions would work too. Or Bugs-Bunny.
What am I saying, I cringe while writing this. Did Baylee not cringe drawing the bubble guy?
Not sure if it's just the perspective but Holy shit look those giant man hands.
Waffles is a fucking queen lmao
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She says something like this again in her "1M Subs Reaction, Stream Prep & Whatnot" vlog like having the counter up and being afraid she was going to miss it because she had the "emergency poos". So disgusting. In one of her recent convention vlogs she shows meeting various fans who stop by her table and they're literally all just children or tweens probably buying her shit with their parents' money. Obviously they relate to her because she acts like a child herself.
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she retweeted this.
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Why is she so proud of her triple chin…. I mean that’s fine but she’s always making the dumbest faces
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just saw bunny wearing this too
hot topic just throws random shit together now its like a ripoff of a random chinese store rip off
whats next? toy story but all the characters are bts?
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She looks like she’s in her late 40s in this pic.
I didn't realize her last name was Neubeker.
Other than that this was more boring than I expected, and way too long. She should just have showed their demo reels, but I guess that'd be less watchtime.
I don't know, part of me can't believe she threw an actual party with her irl friends for reaching 1M.
I get it's a big milestone but it seems really weird and stupid to me?
I don't know;I wouldn't be surprised if she just claims that because she knows people will think it's weird?
Either way, it seems a bit silly and she should really refrain from wearing 'gold lipstick, especially with that hair!
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They were wearing gold lipstick lol
She and her friends watch her videos together (in one of her vlogs they cast her spider video to the TV and were watching it) so it doesn't seem that weird to me her Internet career seems to be most of her personality and a big presence in her relationships.
Christian even mentioned her twitch streams in their wedding vows eugh
I mentioned it as an example of her Internet career being a massive part of her personality and her relationships therefore her having this subscriber milestone party doesn't seem strange at all rather than making a random unrelated jab at her
You're right about the vows being personal and anyone else's thoughts are irrelevant to them but as a viewer it's still cringey and tacky to hear
she really is the Andrew Dobson/Tom Preston of the YouTube Art community.
Hopelessly lazy, completely complacent and unwilling to put in even the tiniest bit of effort to improve her technical ability as well as being completely unable to stand any sort of critique or advice.
Just as Dobbles will always be content with his number 2 pencil and his photoshop fill bucket, she will always be content with her muddy copic colouring, her stiff lifeless ugly style(s) and her limited range of subject matter.
If you haven't seen ForeverPandering's Sins of A Complacent Artist I really recommed it to all artists it is a true lesson on how NOT to handle online popularity as an artist and a lot of the issues are so very relevant to Baylee (all except for the political strawman stuff which Baylee is not guilty of)
There's something so gross about seeing someone use such nice traditional 'aesthetic' materials to create such ugly basic cartoon doodles
Also how can you draw that many 'different faces' and they all still look identical. Yikes.
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Too bad, so sad…. ahahaha
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I don’t even know what to think about this…. lol
I wasn't around for all her threads, but at the very least she's an easy target. A YouTuber who played at being an artist and happened to be there at the right place at the right time on yt. Her stuff never was too terribly interesting, only that she seemed to enjoy art and be more genuine than she does now, after all the fame.
But aside from an inflated ego, mediocre art and boring videos she's just a little cringe, not necessarily cow material like say Holly…
Thanks for introducing me to karenhaley, decent art and a chill voice
sage 4 no contribute
I honestly think her animations are pretty good. I wish she had actually talked about the animation instead of just saying "oh my god it's so bad" over and over again though.
If she were to do more animation I think it could pull in more views and make current subscribers less bored with her content. Even if it's just cutesy pixel art. She never will though, since she can't sell animations at cons.
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Those eyebrows look so weird tho, why are there 2 dark patches at the beginning of them lol
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I'm not sure which is better
You have no fucking clue how pixel art works do you? God how can you be so jeallus of her if you don't even know anything about art.
Anyways her animations weren't good at all. And she knows that, don't act like anybody wants to see shitty 3D animation on a Copic based artist.
Here's the thing most of the animation in the video was her old student work (???) I look back at some of the work I did as a student and think its terrible.
She could do something with those skills she has but it would probably take too long with all the twitch streams etc.
Dude chill out, not everybody majors in animation and unless you study and work in it most people can't recognize the same mistakes as someone who has learned the same basic material.
Her animation work is decent for someone at a beginner level but there are a lot of mistakes that would not allow her to get hired at any professional animation studios.
All of her animations are stiff and hold no weight at all which was especially apparent in her flour sack and ball with legs classic animation.
The part where the guy was walking up the steps was actually pretty good but everything else felt robotic and uncanny. Her story boards and frame positions were pretty bad too with loads of tangents and centering stuff right in the middle which teachers try to steer you away from since it makes the scene look less cinematic and boring.
It's passable for a first year but anything else would mean she wasn't paying attention to what her teachers were trying to explain.
I'm surprised she stopped working on animation, if she had kept at it for a few more years and really hunkered down on learning why and how certain things worked she could have actually gotten into a decent studio and could have worked her way up to Disney if she worked hard enough and knew the right people.
>>674354>really hunkered down on learning why and how certain things worked she could have actually gotten into a decent studio and could have worked her way up to Disney
That's the issue though. You have to work a lot
, and everyone wants to work at the big studios so it's quite competitive.
I always get the impression Baylee likes being an artist, or being a creative professional, but only the "fun" parts, not the hard work it takes to build your skills, or actually producing art, hence why she's so slow (lack of practice), and always complaining about how much work an illustration was. It's the same with other YT artists like RaeDizzle or ChloeRose, they get off being an ~artiste~, but are unaware of the quality of their own work compared to their peers in the real world.
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Whoa, she got that pretty quickly, I always heard people taking weeks to get their play buttons.
The next one is 10M though, so that definitely won't happen.
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Always with the stupid faces….
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This overly quirky wannabe creeper face is just uncomfortable. But maybe that’s what she want you to feel…. I can’t…..
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watching an old vlog of hers because youtube hates me, and happened to hit pause here. she looks like one of her characters, now I know why she does noses like she does
With sharp edges??
She could make one with that saw of hers, I guess.
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jesus CHRIST why would you post this on the Internet?
but also she's talking on twitter about how she missed a flight, had to buy new tickets where she could only get business class but boasting about all the "free" stuff she's getting in the lounge..? solid baylee logic.
I don't think she'll stop making faces anytime soon, it's her ~brand~ now. Her pre-teen audience will think it's funny and ""quirky"".
Also flying business class is nice, so might as well make the best of your fuck-up? Don't really see anything wrong with that.
I think it's less about being quirky and more because she's trying to "own" her perceived ugliness. people who think they are ugly will pull faces and shit so at best people think "oh they're just making a face" without passing judgement on their actual appearance, or at worst they hope they don't come off as being confident because society expects ugly people to be insecure and accused them of being delusional of they aren't. (source: I'm ugly lol)
that said I don't think bailey is ugly. yeah she's overweight and makes shitty style choices but in normal pictures she has a cute face. she should stop trying so hard.
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> 'The furry video"
Didn't she have some sort of animal she related to in her really old vlogs that she was too embarrassed to share, I think its in one of the older threads but it shows how times have changed.
It already feels like she made this furry video for the views.
i mean, if you have been a furry for long time time you know there is something inherently sexual about it (but im glad she separated it for the kids… tho, showing the yiff subreddit was…kinda weird)
but it was funny how she was kinda walking on eggshells (like ''i dont want to talk in behalf of them!'') like, we aint a protected minority
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Spooky click bait vlog coming soon.
to “collect” them, i’d assume, otherwise known as sitting them eternally on one of her many shelves filled with super expensive figurines and toys whose only purpose is for her to gaze over them every once in a while and feel filled with gratification for her hoarding.
also, is it just me, or is she making a lot of haul videos recently? i can’t believe she said that she wanted to make a series of vids where she goes out, buys some random art supplies, and then makes something with it before. A couple vids is alright, but we know she’ll never use that many supplies outside of the vids since she doesn’t even try out or learn to use the nice stuff she has now! (like the professional grade watercolors) She doesn’t have any passion for learning more about art; she just likes to have pretty books and supplies to look at and make her feel like she’s a “real” artist.
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WTF? she couldn't even boil some clean hot water she had to use nasty old kureig water really? Couldn't find an easier way there? So she didn't have any of the real supplies that she needed to do this, didn't look into getting any of the cheaper alternatives (and there are many she only had to look up a list or watch one of the face-up youtubers they all pretty much have an expensive prof. quality list and a cheaper start off list) and the doll looks like a cheap chinese factory made barbie now because of it.
that faceup is horrible, legit horrible I've seen so much better from other dolling newbies this is sad, why does she half ass everything?
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Those hands creep me out, she painted them to look like gloves haha
Are you joking, when I first did a face up (EAH doll was on sale dont judge me i had the tools already) it took me 3hours to crank it out and it didn't come out even half as patchy, shaky and overall sloppy? Her lines are as harsh and insecure as teens in arts classes. It's so difficult to watch someone who has surrounded herself with art for so many years, is a grown woman and still make things you find on the etsy page of a 47yr old woman going through a mid life crisis thinking art would be her independent source of income.
Seriously though, how can you fuck up painting over a dolls face thats so 3 dimensional. You have ALL the guidelines, you would only have to be so utter shit at using your supplies for this to be the outcome.
The length of the yarn doesn't really matter, after you start brushing it, you will reveal how long the strands "inside the yarn" actually are. It is possible to get it longer, but you cannot comb to style the hair then. Mozekyto had a tutorial how to make longer yarn wig but all of her yarn wigs have the same length because of this reason.
It rubbed me the wrong way that she didn't shout-out anyone who customs dolls. Like with the yarn wig thing with mozekyto…
seriously, if she took the time to research and practice more and get MSC, like that would make so much of a difference. I do doll faceups for fun too and like, this is incredibly basic for a first faceup, but MSC makes a ton of difference and that's why everyone in doll faceups swears by it. Like the whining about watercolor pencils not working is WHY you get it, there's no other equivalent to it in the NA market, that's why her doll's face was so shiny.
seriously like, she keeps rushing things and rushing things doesnt lead to good work. This is very much one of those "well it's trending so i should hop on this" things
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Her hair looks like plastered plastic here, not digging the hairstyle either
There’s no dolls of her body type. What was she supposed to choose?
The stitches drive me crazy.
A lot of doll customisers find ways to add to the body…..
if baylee was going for accuracy she would’ve done those techniques but she’s just lazy
Fashion dolls can be pretty pricey depending on where you get them, how new/in demand a specific sculpt is and whether the doll is sold on its own or in a playset. Barbies, Monster High, and Ever After High dolls can easily be up to $20 or more, sometimes in the $50-$100 range for new in box collector/ likited edition Barbies.
That said, if you're not picky and are just using the doll for faceups you can find decent quality dolls for $5 new and as low as .50 used.
I don't think it's a big deal to buy used dolls but I think the general rule is to go for dolls that need a little work, like ones that have been drawn on, are missing parts or have had unfortunate haircuts. Most of the people I watch who do toy collecting or faceups leave the stuff that's in good condition for little girls to buy rather than snatching them up.
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I'm sure she has also trashed things without knowing more information about it.
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keto's shit, why do everyone of these cows insist on weird trend/crash diets all the time? Just stop eating shit and drink some water, go for a walk, eat a damn banana
does she do it for attention I wonder? because they know in a week she will give up but at least all her fans cheered her on right?
I want a cricut too, so I get the appeal, but I hate bj, she doesn't have two shots together.>>694292>>694315>>694352
thanks for the laughs anon, some good dry truths in there XD