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This thread concerns creators, artists, voice actors and others who work or are connected to the modern Western American animation and comics industry, filled with cows, hacks, groomers, woketards and self inserters who all know each other and/or have dated.
previous thread:
>>2062735Kyle Carrozza's final sentencing
>>2064912Monkey Wrench episode 4 is out, no one cares
>>2067408Artist inserts her poly fetish onto a children's show
>>2068684Trannies mad after disney censors tranny propaganda on its new direct to disney+ calarts slop
>>2069227Amber/Danny Cragg is getting divorced
>>2071854disney is rumored to be making a mother gothel prequel film
>>2072451Saberspark is got called out by the creator of Bunny Maloney for his click bait video
>>2073189the writers of the castlevania nocturne released an interview discussing how anyone who is against the decisions they made is simply a racist or a bigot
>>2080746MTF tranny is making a 3deep5u short film about anime lolis
>>2083488Michael Kovach cheated oh his girlfriend
>>2087515Another e-celeb twitter artist making an indie animation project
>>2094058shrek 5 trailer
>>2093792another pedo arrested for cp
>>2095132Tiana animated series has been cancelled.
>>2095797PPG live action reboot leaked
>>2096134The video game Billie Bust Up released a 30 page Google document to prove Blackgryph0n isn’t a Groomer
>>2096334 No. 2103521
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>>2103513>is TADC that profitable?It's popular with kids, teens and adults with arrested development. You can't escape it either online or IRL. They got a nendoroid of Pomni when only the pilot was out. Not to blog but I've seen TADC merchandise being sold in the middle of almost empty villages in my eastern euro country. So yes, it is.
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>MTF tranny is making a 3deep5u short film about anime lolis >>2083488he's not a tranny though. imo he would definetly troon out if he had a chance of passing. the only thing stopping him is self-awareness
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>>2103505I hate the girl’s design so much, something about the chunky anime hair reminds me of when people would wear those anime hairs in roblox
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some stills from angelic kitty miracle chan
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>>2103523He had his pronouns as "he/her" for this article from his tumblr. He's at least a little bit gender retarded. Link:
https://brill.com/view/journals/fem/1/2/article-p198_003.xml No. 2103620
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>>2103617Holy fuck this is painful, neither one matches the characters at all. Jotaro expy has such a prototypical Tif faghag voice. Picrel, the "Latiné" herself kek
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>>2103548>He had his pronouns as "he/her"KEK imagine this guy telling you to call him "her". how is one supposed to not burst out laughing in his face?
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>>2103523>>2103528>>2103643Haha, yup! Here's a biographical comic by him, nona is always right, I trust her intuition with my life.
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>>2103505The cast also got revealed recently as well.
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>>2103620I can't believe they got the same person who voiced Raine in The Owl House to voice that character.
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Creator of High Guardian Spice (Crunchyroll "Anime") applies for $23 hour job in LA. oof.
No. 2103889
>>2103877Wouldn't someone like her hate the vibe of a lot of Titmouse, Inc stuff? I don't know how else to word this other than her unfunny, untalented ass would be an absolute cancer to the workplace, especially as a troon. How
problematic would she find having to work on something like Superjail? I hope they take one whiff of this bitch and take three big steps back, for everyone's sake.
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>>2103643>>2103523>>2103535Kek he's so cringe. Spoiler for scary moid
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>>2103992>making disgusting "ironic" jokes about women's anatomyyou're not gonna believe this nonna
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>>2103992>>2104042What the hell did he mean by this picrel?
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>>2103877HGS still feels like such a massive anomaly. I checked her tumblr and still she draws at the level of a middle schooler discovering yaoi…like how was something so Svetlana Chmakova-tier able to happen in the 2020s
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>the year is 2030 and your American cartoon director options are AGP lolicon hulk or ftm out of touch weeaboo
No. 2104201
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>>2104197>lesbianI always thought those were two gay moids because of how faggy they look/act. Wouldn’t surprise me if they were two tifs though, considering Anatola is one
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>>2104201>>2104204Per her Tumblr, they're "just gay". Don't want to alienate any of the other members of the alphabet, I guess.
She's come a long way since making Pen Pals, too bad this is the outcome. No. 2104226
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>>2103953He also gave himself a Vasectomy because of Roe V. Wade being overturned.
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>>2104027It's crazy how you know she's really keeping that trans status just for special points, especially when she makes stuff like this.
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>>2104332But it's totes a kweer couple!
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>>2104357Sorry to samefag/doublepost but I’d say the only decent cartoon voice acting we have right now is from smiling friends, zach hadel already has a recognizable and cartoonish voice like h. jon benjamin or patrick warburton but he can also do different voices. Honestly if some of these cartoons just picked people who already have weird or unique voices it would help instead of having these forced shitty anime dub voice acting.
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I'm not saying I don't believe in this but doesn't anyone know the source for this? I couldn't find anything on Google. I know Goosetroon has a lot of skeletons in his closet but he's good at hiding things.
No. 2104447
>>2104406samefag, but I tried reverse image search on a couple places and the only other result for this image that I found was a deleted reddit post
Link:
https://www.reddit.com/r/TheDigitalCircus/comments/1hm7r0l/deleted_by_user/ No. 2104472
>>2104444nta but I think I recall this image being linked on
the soyjak wiki's tadc article as proof that goose sent porn to a minor? those guys are nuts from what I've seen so it wouldn't surprise me if this was fake
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>>2104623Is that Michael Kovach again? It's like someone asked ChatGPT to write a show after feeding it Helluva Boss and Hazbin Hotel episodes, down to the circus/clown…stuff, the pointy-tooth smiles and electro swing, kek. Also I've literally never heard of this until just now, does this actually have a following? These comments feel like bots, right?
No. 2104664
>>2104351>>2104357nta but as someone who has closely followed the anime VA scene since the 2000s this is definitely a factor. all the old vanguards of anime dubbing did actual work beforehand: stephanie sheh studied improv at university, JYB was a teen actor on Power Rangers, crispin freeman was a theatre actor in new york, etc etc.
nowadays these younger VAs just go straight to dubbing with zero prep. I think some of them do it just because it's "easier" than doing film/tv/theatre acting (acting where you actually have to show your face and be as expressive as possible)
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>>2104640Yeah I agree with everyone you just said. And it even has a Kickstarter too, I mean come on, this looks so unappealing.
No. 2104796
>>2104568Lily Orchard / Jerry Peet has an, albeit dead/rarely active, thread here but would probably qualify for this one, the rabbit hole goes so much deeper. Joon the King did a video about it all that’s blown up so much that it prompted the rebrand into CD-Call and completely killed that already dying channel. But yeah on top of the sister rape this person admitted to wanting to fuck dogs, has an obsession with lesbian incest, futanari porn, rape, and a bunch of similarly disturbing shit then calls you a nazi
TERF conservative for ever pointing it out
No. 2104810
>>2103617Holy cringe, the voice acting is definitely giving shitty anime dub but the worst offender has got to be the dialogue. None of it is funny, she writes like a 9 year old who tried making edgy characters but is too scared to use any swear words.
>hurr durr you like SAUSAGEEE>Hur durr BEEWBSSeriously, how is this the best she can come up with? And why is everything about Kate's boobs or her curvaceous womanly body, especially if she TIFs out? And considering its not even actually animated, why are the doodles so shitty and low quality? At least put in a bit more effort considering this is promotional material.
No. 2104947
>>2104936From what I remember of the situation this is exactly what happened. She posted about it first on Tumblr I think and referred to him as a male (specifically as her brother) but she was almost run off the site until she "stopped being transphobic" about her abuser
I doubt she actually believes that rapist's delusion, but its so depressing that she has to in order to be allowed to speak up
No. 2104967
>>2104962All of these artists grew up on tumblr where people cannibalized each other’s ideas so much that everyone was the same. Same interests, same art style, same concepts. They all happened to be shitty ideas because they were no longer inspired by a variety of cartoons, comics, movies etc., they were inspired by other teenage tumblrinas and maybe Steven universe or some shitty anime.
It used to be that a tv network would pick up your show if you had a unique concept and actual talent, if you were creative or good at writing or comedy. Now there’s no quality control and every calarts gendie artist thinks they can be the next vivziepop.
No. 2104995
>>2104172this is why most trannies dont even remotely pass
their souls are curropted by porn and thats the same reason why they think they can become women
No. 2104999
>>2104335we need to bring the term “queerbaiting” back.
she knows shes too scared to make her character a TIM, maybe because she knows that TIMs dont act like genuine real women ? if shes going to appeal to gendies she should atleast full fledge her bullshittery
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i once thought gooseworx was a real woman which is part of the reasons why i watched the pilot, i thought it was a innocent soulfull indie project, because nobody disclosed he was a “she/her”gendie man and now that i realized it, it ALL makes sense. that jaw, that reminiscent stubble, the adams apple, he even sounds and types like an effeminate gay faggot. he literally looks like a niche lolcow you would find on the front page of kiwifarms but unfortunately we’re in the wrong timeline where hes not, so i have to wait until he does something “problematic” so the other trannies and lip service gendies cancel him on twitter and he is widely hated so we can all finally stop pretending that he isnt just a man with a cartoony bimbo fetish. to this day i have no idea why people keep glazing his show and pretending hes a woman in interviews. troonworx downfall 2025-2026 im manifesting it.
No. 2105011
>>2104947somehow even worse
>>2105007I really hate him and his EPI cartoons. disgusting pornsick moid
No. 2105012
>>2104947It was a bad idea to share this on tumblr out of all places
>>2105007Why do those agp troons look exactly the same?
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>>2104623It's another musical, lameeee also they are making this cartoon for kids lol I don't think any kid would watch this wannabe preschool Hazbin slop they're too busy on TikTok.
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>>2104428It gets so much worse anon
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>>2105055I wonder how troonworx reacts when people clock him and call him a man, is it the
>”Erm actually i use she/her pronouns”or does he one of those “cover my ears and close my eyes” type of trannies who try and ignore everything? because there is no way he can look in the mirror and call himself a woman with that jawline without laughing.
Also, KEK at him trying to coin the adult human female term. hope he acks
(sage your shit) No. 2105106
>>2105053now i feel kinda bad, their peers only want to create "adult" shows to chase the hazbin/smiling friends horse and i guess this team wanting to make a show for kids feels more genuine than the others. but man should they return to the drawing board
>>2105007>i once thought gooseworx was a real woman which is part of the reasons why i watched the pilotouch. i think the whole tadc concept and general aesthetic outs him so blatantly, a woman in charge would've released a whole different product.
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>>2105007>I once thought gooseworx was a real womanKEK if you had seen his twitter before his popularity, you could immediately clock him as a scrote with all the garbage he would say. Not that his ugly nerdy white guy appearance and the fact that his real name is Cooper doesn't already give it away.
No. 2105145
>>2103889Titmouse hasn't made any interesting, irreverent dark comedies like Metalocalypse or Superjail since the mid-2010s. (Looking at their wiki it looks like they made Big Mouth too, but that show isn't even funny or interesting, just gross.) Lately they've worked on…Star Trek, Ninja Turtles and Disney stuff like The Ghost of Molly McGee.
I'm afraid that the Adult Swim era of absurd adult animated comedies is over, it's disheartening.
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>>2104195Going through his wife’s instagram and here she is with the voice actor of Apple Bloom on his bed. No parents. Such a creep.
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>>2105260He’s just cupping this girls boob.
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>>2104195One of the people she interviewed just recently posted that there’s even more things not yet made public. I’m really curious! I use to be really into the Brony fandom when I was a teenager I’ve always found Blackgryph0n so creepy.
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they turned my husbando into an unfunny redditor(take it to /m/)
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>>2106141Shankar must be a cow, look at the tagline on this promotion poster.
He also thinks Vergil is heroic according to the /m/ animation thread.
No. 2106185
I'm late and gay but this whole video infuriates me to no end. I don't know shit about Dolan but I saw some video talking about him and decided to look into his indie cartoon and its failures. It specifically
triggered me because this guy has a bunch of money, an audience, and somehow fucking fumbled it all. I'll sperg out in order
>Youtube is not a good place to post cartoons 1:50Yes it is (in this case). This guy is already a big youtuber with millions of subs. In fact- it's more easier for him than others to spread IPs because the algorithm favors popular creators.
>muh lockdowns killed production 4:32Okay, then why didn't he pause production until the lockdowns were over or created a better work-at-home streamline?
>"Proof of animation skills" 4:53I do not know what the hell he was thinking when posting this because I saw was a deviantart transformation video. You even see tits jiggling and shit, how is he this unaware? Him switching to 3d is smart because his 3d is more tolerable.
>Muh 3d rigs look bad 7:32The animation quality was already mediocre; it's weird he specifically gets demoralized seeing this because it's like comparing a turd with a turd. You can get away with mediocre art which I will get to later.
>Wasting the budget with AAA voice actors 9:34asdkjfdkfa; While voice actors are important because a shit voice actor can destroy good writing- why the fuck is he risking so much at the beginning? He's making a 25 min pilot, cut that shit down. You don't know if you're series is going to even take off.
There's other shit he's done like wasting money on hiring an expensive musician who did music for the Dragon Prince. I genuinely feel like either A) VAs were just as retarded B) The hollywood clique got together to scam this idiot.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-bdpnbHf3PUSo after this I watched his pilot and there was so many things wrong with it.
>Show don't tell of the first seconds of dialogue- this is in film writing 101 what the fuck are you doing>Lack of quick visual distinction between the Augmented VR world vs the IRL>Lack of cohesion in overall design- it's like they just slapped together the most generic, uninspired tropes and acted like they're worth a damn>World building makes zero sense. Why the fuck is there a single elf in the human world? It would make sense if they showed other races in the sci-fi setting but she was the only elf dicking around. Also the wish making shit, how does no one ask if there's legitimacy in the contest? Characters just going along for the sake of it is the worst kind of writing there is.I feel bad because I think he can make a cartoon series if he had the brain cells. He just needs like learn how to work with a low budget. There's a fuck ton of movies, games, and media that succeeded despite low budget. If he'd study those, fleshed out his lore better then maybe he can rope in some audience members. Because indies like Hazbin Hotel and Digital Circus got to where they were because they introduced new audiences, not because die-hard vizzypop fans bought 1000x copies of her dvds. No. 2106229
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Wow, I can't believe this uninspired garbage is close to getting 100% funded. shows how people really have low standards for indie animation and shows that if you got connections with the right people, your cartoon, no matter how bad it looks, will get successfully funded.
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>>2106141they massacred my boy
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I found this in the LokiIRL 4chan thread.
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>>2106372Here’s the same character in a sweater that Pan owns irl.
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Viziepop comes out as asexual, immediately spergs about JK Rowling
No. 2106442
>>2106418Isn't her work highly sexual?
>shriveled bitchNice misogyny.
No. 2106474
>>2106418Viv, you're a horny fujo, it's fine, just admit it. She might have legitimately gotten braindamage from being cancelled over "fetishizing mlm" a few years back or whatever. Real sad.
Also J.K. is right, no need to call her a cunt and shrivelled up when she probably did more for the LGB community by being an open
TERF and lesbian advocate, than Vivzie ever did with her demon x owl furry yaoi, um I mean GAY REPRESENTATION.
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>>2104195The girl he is talking to on his DA account is only 14, he is 20.
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>>2106229This looks like a show made by someone who got rejected from animation school because all the character designs reek of amateur tumblr artist who’s an animu fan that cannot for their life draw anything remotely interesting, let alone escape same face syndrome.
People calling this the new indie scooby doo is so lame and I already detest it.
>inb4 a-loggingYou can’t tell me you see shit like this and aren’t pissed by it being a turd with a bunch of glitter sparkled on top (wow fluid animation!!!!!!!).
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>>2106810>but asexuals are the most "minding their own business" labelThey were definitely annoying as fuck back in the day, they’d go after and spend forever trying to cancel anyone who implies not wanting to fuck people doesn’t make you as oppressed as homosexuals, acted like all “allosexuals” (straight/gay/lesbian) were evil oppressors who aren’t as enlightened as them, and harassed the ava’s demon creator for not making her gay character asexual and not including asexuals in her webcomic.
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A totally normal way for two colleagues who are both married to interact with each other. Even for theater people, this is bizarre
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>>2106929It's even more cringe when you realize that Amir is almost 50
>>2106930kek, it's the voice actors from Hazbin Hotel
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>>2106918it's been so many years and her art has barely improved at all. hilariously she does have a webcomic of her own now which seems like.. something
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>>2106929Amir Talai also recently said something about taking pictures of the inside of his throat and show it for Charity apparently
No. 2106993
>>2106418>I absolutely exist on the ace spectrum>Where on the spectrum I'm still figuring outVivziepop comes out as heterosexual.
>>2106810>the most "minding their own business"That's true in theory, but in practice asexuality is pretty much the older zoomers' version of those millenial women that get really offended if you invalidate their bisexuality by implying that a man and a woman in a 15 year marriage is a straight relationship and pop a vein if they ever see one gay person being mildly annoyed by bihets online.
I do think it's a bit silly for her to comment on it, though. Asexuals/fake asexual are one of those demographics that are really just annoying online. Even those "asexual awareness day" type things that "look" official are the absolute most fake and gay of all the queer awareness activism type stuff that not even other queerios give a shit about, so there's not much point complaining about it unless she's either planning to be one of those old people that complain online about every cloud that annoys them or if she's planning to do some sort of anti post modernist critique about fake asexuals ruining the clarity of language by refusing to actually engage with the real word-concept relationship and just making shit up at will to suport their LARP instead.
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>>2106810has it been that long
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Dunno if this counts.
TL;DR:
>Guy puts out a casting call for a web series
>$15 to say a few NPC lines
>Twitter calls him cheap, demands $100/hr
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>>2107532Why the fuck would people do that? Reading over picrel in
>>2107496 and it definitely looks like a bot army.
Sorry for derail but I mean Why would a millennial magatard named “dead constitution” care about dweeb zoomer crap like “ben drowned” kek. Also no freelance voice actor would call $15 an hour low.
Dead Internet theory is real.
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>>2106962There's something so unappealing about the smug as fuck modern animation grad who also went on to work for Disney or some other big box animation studio. They think they shit gold and invented artistry. Meanwhile, none of their unfinished doodles could hold a candle to Milt Kahl or James Baxter. I used to envy these artists who "made it", but thank god I retained self-awareness and a sense of humility by having to struggle to get every art job I ever did.
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>>2107836He's even douchier looking than I imagined, I believe it.
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Adi Shankar added an Asmongold reference in the DMC show
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>>2108242Not even being subtle anymore, that has been done before, so original!!11. what an ugly art style too
No. 2108302
>>2108242The green tumblr sexyman is taking me out, especially compared to the rest of the characters. Literally why
Will never mog this old gem though
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>>2106896>late 2000'sI am absolutely sick of zoomer/millenials/whatever the-fuck-these-people-are's inability to actually capture the 2000's atmosphere. Same problems occur in shit like The Class of 09' or that shitty horror analogue flash game (not even going to bother looking up the name).
The demiagenedersexual shit flourished in the 2015's- if the cartoon was set in that then I wouldn't have much of a problem with it.
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>>2108242>>2108248Japan already made this EDGY SHOCKING SUBVERSIVE SHOW about 10 years ago kek
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>>2108367>or that shitty horror analogue flash game (not even going to bother looking up the name)Lacey's games?
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I don’t watch this drivel but everything I hear about it sounds like more bad decisions after another
https://thedirect.com/article/avatar-netflix-live-action-toph-feminie-exclusive No. 2108546
>>2108453Did she beg the writers to feminize Toph? Kek
>>2108367People have more resources on 2000’s culture than showrunners did with 90’s and 80’s culture. The fact they don’t use them properly or interview people who experienced that time are retarded.
No. 2108569
>>2108242>>2108248>>2108369The obsession with deconstructing genres and making it metafictional/self-aware/edgy unironically makes these types of shows so boring. You've seen one, you've seen it all.
The "renaissance" of dark/parodic/ironic Magical Girl (both in Japan and by weebs abroad) shows is pure cancer. ALL of these creators think they're doing something "fresh", "new", and "innovative"—failing to see everyone else is doing it. Bitch, you're not the Madoka Magica staff.
The only magical girl exposure they have is Sailor Moon and other other Sailor Moon parodies.
I believe this is why Miraculous Ladybug is so successful worldwide, as formulaic its episodes are. It's unashamedly for tweenybops and isn't trying too hard to be """deep""" and deconstructing the genre—it's a
genuine Magical Girl with no tricks up it's sleeve. It's clichedness is what makes it (unironically) fresh.
No. 2108573
>>2108509Because that's demonizing femininity uwuwuwuw. Don't you know that feminine girls media is literally nowhere to be found?? No, Barbie, My Little Pony, Unicorn Academy and everything else don't count.
It's
feminine women who are actually oppressed!
No. 2108581
>>2108367>The Class of 09' This one is so baffling to me because didn't the guy who made it go to high school IN 2009? Shouldn't he know better?
>>2108569There's nothing wrong with wanting to do a darker take on a well-loved genre. The problem seems to come from the people making it having no familiarity with the genre. It feels like we've reached a point where deconstructions are deconstructing tropes of other deconstructions and assuming those tropes came from the source material, if that makes any sense whatsoever.
>>2108528This looks way more accurate to the style of girlsgogames. The intended audience for the Lacey's Games series must be kids who never used that site, as I can think of no other reason why the style would look like something an animecore artist would draw.
No. 2108583
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>>2108098meatcanyon drew him more accurately lmfao
No. 2108586
>>2108581>>2108098It's always extremely embarrassing when career people (who should know better) suck up to influencers/streamers kek
>>2108583>>2108528>>2108411Not to make excuses but in the Lacey series' Deep Lore, the website's creator
is a lunatic who sperged out on the official forum at kids/parents, intentionally coded upsetting things into the games (to teach the child audience the truth about the world, or something like that) and is implied to have basically lived on the internet since childhood to escape from her trauma. I think the aesthetics are supposed to look weird and "off." The video redesigning it to be more accurate does look better though.
>>2108583KEK
No. 2108587
>>2108453Of all the bizarre sexist directions they could have taken
>More humanisingWhat did they mean by this?
No. 2108641
>>2106962Ngl, extremely arrogant and borderline delusional of her lmao. Baymax tranny thing aside, she's a trans man (?) who desperately wants her boobs off. That itself is sadly so common in the animation trans-ification- but when I examine her past work and ability to draw, it's so shit and subpar. It really shows how the industry is becoming a silo of severe mediocrity and nepotism. Bragging that she can quit repeatedly like she's a main character, and that her Uber powerful calarts classmates can get her any job she wants…. Really bad taste. Considering how many talented people are languishing out to dry with the current shit job market.
Again, the way she draws if you examine her Instagram, Jesus lol.
(sage your shit) No. 2108662
>>2106372Here's the video where Pan Piza (aka RebelTaxi) is crying about spilling spaghetti in front of a 'cute emo girl in a Ruby Gloom shit'.
Good luck trying to watch it. It'll give you douche chills.
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No mention of trans anywhere?
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>>2108789This is what Toph's initial character was supposed to be, they ended up recycling the design and made him Roku's earthbending teacher instead. Having a grown adult man in the cast would have been a horrible choice and would have ruined the dynamic of the group. I can't imagine how the episode where Toph teaches Anng earthbending would have gone if it featured a muscular adult man yelling at Anng
No. 2108886
>>2108862It really helps that Christopher McCulloch worked as a TV writer before creating Venture Bros, and while Doc Hammer wasn’t a writer beforehand, he got coaching from an experienced scriptwriter. Plus even just from watching the show, it’s clear they had a plethora of influences ranging from cartoons/comics to films to music subcultures to real-life experiences(which help give the writing so much heart). Meanwhile these indie pilots suffer so bad from being uninspired boring slop for reasons
>>2100842 and others pointed out.
Can’t write, have no interesting experiences to pull from, and at best copy other cartoons/anime, damn these younger artists are doomed kek unless they change their lifestyle or find decent writers.
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This shit is so embarrassing, using trans crap as a selling point, wow western animation is dead. Who is wasting their money on this?
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>>2109039Is there people who actually want this??
No. 2109125
>>2109039>>2109041Holy shit I didn't think one of my personal cows would be here lmao. She's the classic fujo to transmasc. Her last kickstarter for her main project didn't go well and in an attempt to get attention on it she went full he/him. She complains she doesn't get the fame/attention she thinks he deserves when she has an art style like that.
She also claimed she couldn't pay some people working for her with the kickstarter money due to money issues/"being indie"/low budget yet went on mutiple trips to italy for "research".
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>>2109041To be fair I'd watch a show about the Gamestop troon getting isekai'd too.
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>>2108242Oh look, more unfunny indie animation. Someone else brought this up previously, but why is indie animation incapable of being funny?
Im guessing it’s because most of it is made by stunted gendies being safe edgy.
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>>2109202 Samefag
My favorite part was picrel where she's talking about how diverse the studio's OCs are and they all have the same heinous acromegalic face
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>>2109202>medevialClearly this will have top tier writing
>>2109206 No. 2109411
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>>2109394And pedophile BlackGryph0n in the comments. It would be disappointing but hardly surprising if he got hired by Glitch.
No. 2109426
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It seems Saberspark has some skeletons in his closet. The posts from these people (who are covering BlackGryph0n and Billie Bust Up) seem to be hinting at some serious allegations coming up. I wouldn't be surprised, after all, Saberspark's one of BG's biggest defenders and enablers, plus he also defended Kyle Carrozza, it wouldn't come as a surprise if Saberspark is a pedophile himself.
No. 2109441
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>>2109426>it wouldn't come as a surprise if Saberspark is a pedophile himselfHe definitely is, just look at him
No. 2109507
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>>2109394nitpick but i hate hate HATE the mrbeast overly stimulating thumbnail thing they do, it looks so trashy and it just emphasizes their content is youtube kids tier slop that thinks it's above that and "more artistic". about the show itself, it's not my thing and i still wouldn't have watched anyway but it looked way better when it was 3d-emulating-2d, at least it made itself stand out from the very shiny and polished tadc and murder drones.
>>2109426i wish they'd stop the teasing period and just get straight to the exposing jfc. lurking on these threads honestly turned me off from his channel, i was watching him since middle school so i feel a little bad, but he's even gaining a reputation among animation obsessed zoomers for his constant references to porn and furfaggotry so he's obviously doing something wrong.
No. 2109532
>>2109507Agreed. I honestly preferred the earlier cel-shaded style, and part of me does hold a soft spot for this project despite all the red flags. While the creator's obviously a moid and a Vivzie alumnus, which both does not bode well, I feel that it's Glitch's meddling that causes these projects to truly become generic kiddie slop. For fucks' sake, they all already are talking about the merchandise and numbers it'll pull and the money it'll make, not its artistic merits. Glitch is a creatively sterile content farm, and pitching to them or working with them is no better than the Mouse House. Just look into the differences between the original concepts of stuff like Murder Drones or TADC. The original concept of the drones were more blocky toy robots, not the hypersexualized sexbots we ended up with; and Pomni started out as a frog and got retooled into a clown loli later on. I know both Liam and Goose are coomer moids if you look at their other work, but stuff like this makes me think it is Glitch's corporate who bludgeons any show pitch to death with a sledgehammer until it turns into a generic Whedonesque dark horror comedy for children. I mean, last year, it was revealed they mistreated and even fired workers and VAs that weren't big/appealing enough or worked on stuff that didn't do well enough, or simply if they voiced concerns or disagreed with the management, I wouldn't put it past them. I feel they meddle a lot to turn it into generic palatable NPC slop that sells to the masses of retarded iPad children, retarded autistic adults, and coomers.
No. 2109535
>>2109522I get that one can't force whistleblowers to speak out (something similar happened with one of BlackGryph0n's
victims when his pedo posse harassed her to the point she was forced out of hiding because they threatened her) but goddamn the teasing and alluding is annoying. If it really is that bad as they insinuate (and I do believe it is something severe) then it has to come to light eventually. The depressing part is that like always we can't even be sure that'll end their career, plenty of pedophiles, abusers and sex offenders get supported and hired, just look at the Billie Bust Up crew defending BG knowing full well what a danger he is. Hope it is revealed sooner or later, Saberspark is a blight to the community as is.
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Wtf
No. 2109665
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>>2109507On the topic of cel-shading, I feel like the western artstyle is perfect for 3d cel-shading and even looks much better than anime (if done correctly). I remember looking at some behind the scenes of how anime makes celshading, and they do a fuck ton of manipulation just to 'get the right look' and all I can think was: "then why the fuck don't they just animate it in 2d at that point?".
I see less of that in cartoons because the downside of the anime style is that if one bit looks wrong, then everything falls apart.
It sucks that westerners are restricting cel-shading to make faux anime like Dragon Prince.
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>>2109426>>2109441>>2109522An update post by BronyFandont: yeah, it's likely Saberspark is a sex pest. It seems they were trying to avert mentioning both Saberspark and what exactly he did in one post, only vaguely either saying Saber did something or that one of BG's "influencer friends" will get exposed, but when you look at the posts it's easy to piece together what they mean.
No. 2109778
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>>2109758>izzzzzzzzzzzzy calls them furriesim sick of anthro characters being called “furries” now. Furries are the autistic genderspecial sex pest who turn anthro foxes into landwhales, not Garfield or robin hood.
No. 2109784
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>>2109758am i mentally ill for hating her because she brings a lot of attention to niche things that were relatively unknown before?
For some reason, whenever some big creator like her covers a niche game, band, culture, etc, the once niche and peaceful community is suddenly full of kids and retards assigning weird genders to everything, making porn and other annoying behaviors.
This happened with a niche band i liked a while ago and i still havn’t recovered lol. I know it’s retarded but DAE feel this way?
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>>2109764Oh but anon, they're also furries!
No. 2109829
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>>2109796Honestly I had low hopes given it's Glitch. But I have to give credits where it's due. It's trying, the premise is interesting on paper, a sole mortal in a world of immortal undead. Having heard the creator has been working on the verse for a few years now gives me some hope that there's still potential. There's some interesting ideas there. But it relies so heavily on its stylization that people overlook it's lacking substance. That female characters have to be portrayed as sexualizeable is a problem with all of Glitch's media. Overall it is definitely not quite living up to the massive hype and shilling it generates. It seems though, interestingly enough that she might be attracted to women, but it was portrayed in a weird way, used as a setup for a (plot-relevant) joke (vidrel).
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>>2109706Update on the Saberspark situation. Hopefully they'll hold up on that, whoever is taking care of it.
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>>2109758Why do all of these cartoons made by YouTubers look the exact same? I swear I've seen this like 3 times in recent memory.
>>2109784You're not at all wrong because I feel the same way. My niche interest covered by her was already kind of filled with weird and unlikable people, but her video made it significantly worse. I can't imagine if your community was actually pleasant before she made a video about it.
>>2109833>>2109426I wonder if his announcement about potentially stepping away from making videos has anything to do with this. I hope that the people covering this actually follow through on it. He's had a weird vibe for a long time, so I wouldn't be surprised by whatever it is.
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>>2109859>Why do all of these cartoons made by YouTubers look the exact same? I swear I've seen this like 3 times in recent memory.I think it's cause they're all trying to skinwalk Vewn. And it's a shame because I loved Vewn's stuff. It was very unqiue and beautiful, but personally it lost its charm when I saw a bajillion other artists copying her and making her style part of the y2k trend that's gonna die down in a few years.
No. 2109896
>>2109862I still like vewn's shit though. A thing that I noticed with animations and storytelling in general is that it's obvious when a "totally original" animation is made by a sheltered gendie shut-in with internet trends as their only points of reference and when there is an actual life experience inspiring the story and art instead. With vewn's things you can tell that they come from her life, there is that underlining passion and realness to it even if it's still all wacky characters doing nonsensical stuff. With something like TAGC, Izzzyzzz's cartoon,
>>2106896 and all the clones you can tell that the creator is going purely off of porn, fetishes, tumblr tropes, anime from gross pedo shut-ins and gendie shit. It's all fake. Just them parroting each other but none of them have lived any of that and it becomes painfully obvious in the empty dialogues and dynamics.
No. 2109978
>>2109896>none of them have lived any of that and it becomes painfully obvious in the empty dialogues and dynamics.This is true for a lot of stuff made today, not just animation. Instead of drawing from their real world experiences to create ideas, they get influenced by shit they see online. They're making stories based on online observations instead of taking inspiration from their lives because they have no lives outside the internet.
With Izzy's stuff, it's clear that she's going for an MTV's Downtown or Mission Hill, but her concept falls flat because it lacks the soul of those shows that was imparted by their creators' lives. Izzy's never lived in a big city, she doesn't know what it's like, so of course all her ideas about life in a big city are boring, uninspired, & cliche. It would have been way more interesting if her cartoon took inspiration from her real experiences growing up as a quirky alt kid in New Zealand. That would have been unique and fun, especially because the majority of her audience is from outside of NZ.
No. 2110046
>>2109886That would require life experience beyond their bubble. You can't make a character-driven show if you don't have writers who like to interact with people from various walks of life.
So you end up where all characters are either inspired by the queer friend group or flat meme archetypes.
No. 2110551
>>2110467the other thing is that it’s survivorship bias
we still read Christie because she was an inventive writer with a gift for character
there were dozens and dozens of rich ladies writing boring crap at the exact same time that nobody has ever heard of today
No. 2110611
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>>2109758At least one of them is a tranny voiced by a tranny, i can feel it
No. 2111494
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>>2110450This person is rumoured to be releasing an expose video about Saberspark next week.
No. 2111515
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>>2111497The Brony guy accidentally posted a thread that’s supposed to go out the same day her video is released.
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>>2110046>>2110467basically picrel
(sage your shit) No. 2111629
>>2111517>Horse NewsNot to come off as a white knight or anything but wasn’t Horse News an infamous troll site and basically the brony TMZ where it posted rumors as if they were full on proven stories or just posted shit for shock value? I do know that the guy who apparently started these rumors (Michael Boggs / Boggsy) got a job with Vivziepop and that KP apparently tried to make Viv aware of it and that there were a whole bunch of videos being made on it back in like 2020 but I don’t know where it’s really gone
>>2111607Didn’t know about the Christory but you’re absolutely right about her place in Lily Peet lore, surprisingly enough Lily defended her and they were friends for 7 years before KP made a big call out. Not surprised their friendship fell apart though, KP uses terms like cancelled all the time (Lily claims that anyone who says cancelling is a neo nazi dog whistle blower) and has spoken positively about shows like Steven Universe that Lily infamously hates, I’m only surprised they didn’t fall apart sooner
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>>2111517no idea who the Kim Possible person is but this Anthony moid is a clown and a half (picrel), also seems to like starting shit
No. 2111666
>>2111665I saw the concept art and it still doesnt make sense to make jesus kun a bull hes called the SHEPHERD so make him a shepherd dog or even a lamb to signify his pureness and why would you make Judas a rabbit when jackals and foxes were considered two faced back then or hell even a crow or a snake? This is
triggering my autism and I'm not even Christian
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dawn of the final day 24 hours remaining
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>>2111696It gives me so much second hand embarrassment to see westerners try to make 3deep5u pilots or comics ''deconstructing'' anime genres. Why is it always animu, too? why not deconstruct western cartoons like ren and stimpy, rugrats or those baby cartoons that teach you new languages like dora. Anime is already known for being dark and edgy and constantly mixing moe with darker elements. For some reason westerners think they are the only ones that can make mahou shoujo ''deep''. It genuinely comes off as pretentious and borderline racist. Mahou shoujo specifically has been completly co-opted by fat japanese otaku moids to the point most mahou shoujo that comes out today is some edgy coomer shit for moids. The only mahou shoujo anime thats still being made for little girls is precure.
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>>2111629She use to stalk the voice actor John de Lancie at every convention he’d go to.
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>>2109394Blackgryph0n did the music for the Gaslight District.
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>>2111696He genuinely looks sped and ai generated, does he seriously think he looks good?
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>>2111750He did not, the music is done by a composer called Oliver Buckland. It also seems the people working on Gaslight District are aware of BG's actions and don't want to be affiliated with him, so it definitely isn't approved by them either.
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>>2111666>>2111681The creator/artist said this but I’m convinced they just made him a huge bull to accentuate the seme/uke yaoi dynamic kek
No. 2111895
Gaslight district merch video announcement dropped
>>2111883He's definitely a narcissist if he has no shame in posting his ugly jaw on twitter multiple times, agp and narcissism goes hand in hand
No. 2111961
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>>2111938Honestly, I feel like a lot of the “themes” and “intentions” in this were done better be Welcome to the NHK in fucking 2006. That Colin guy just made NHK but made Yamazaki a tranny (which could have realistically happened if the anime wasn't made in 2006 kek). Also I know that NHK was professionally made by a studio but it had nicer more creative animation and better commentary on toxicity and escapism in otaku culture. While also not being completely pretentious, and being willing to make fun of its characters and actively call them losers, through NHK certainly isn't perfect, and I acknowledge that.
I would have actually liked the concept of Miracle chan if it was less sympathetic to the tranny tbh, it could have been this disturbing commentary on perversion, skinwalking and fetishization of young anime girls by moids and troons (moids). But the director chose to make it a sob story about a poor wittle tranny that wants to wear catgirl cosplay but he can't fit in it with his disgusting hulking scrote body uwu, he doesn't feel comfortable in his own skin so he uses escapism, feel bad for him!
It's honestly just a giant nothingburger and not deep at all, lol. Hopefully this doesn't count as derailing the thread, just wanted to share some thoughts on this dumb video.
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>>2111961>That Colin guy just made NHK but made Yamazaki a tranny Took the words right of my mouth. Reminds me of the otaku from PA too. How is this subversive to anyone besides tiktokers and tumblrfags who don't watch anime or read manga but pretend they do? Like you said it actually could have been made it something interesting but that would have hurt trannies fweelings and him being a AGP faggot prevents him from doing that.
No. 2112010
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>>2111938i kekked out loud are men so retarded they need instructions to shave? and what are we supposed to get out of this? that he wants to be a loli and thats why he's shaving, to look underage? gross. Women shave since they start puberty because we live in a pedophilic society and we are supposed to feel sorry for this hairy scrote getting an itty bitty cut on his leg?