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No. 2011789
Post covid has shown a rise in conspiracy leaning / off grid loving / natural birth / antivax / ancestral / quantum healing / pseudoscience / ancestral / animal based / tradwife / trad girl / crunchy / yoni sunning /raw milk obsessed / block of butter eating / scared of seed oil / anti feminist / liver and testicle loving influencers
It’s such bs that there’s so many of these grifters making money off of fear mongering other people but especially other women.
Some accounts spreading constant misinformation are:
1.
https://www.instagram.com/theoliveoilqueenMia aka “theoliveoilqueen” who converted to Greek Orthodox when she got married to reallytanman (he owns masa chips). Mia claims to have had really bad digestive problems until she switched to an ancestral diet yet also says she throws up as soon as she eats anything with seed oils. She just had a baby and during pregnancy complained a lot about digestive problems while also making posts about controversial things she did while she was pregnant.
2.
https://www.instagram.com/the.raw.sol“The.Raw.Soul” aka Mikayla Sprung. It seems like mostly eats raw meat and raw dairy and claims that the sun can heal you from most of your ailments. She constantly has a sunburn and also talks about how she’s healing her anxiety from being scared of toxins constantly. Has her own tallow skin care line and claims to be a health coach. She’s scared of red 40 but will drink methylene blue.
3.
https://www.instagram.com/getreal_girlfriend“Getreal_girlfriend” aka Taylor Gossett. She might be the worst of all. She’s an ex stripper that became a doula but then got fired from being a doula because she didn’t want to use non binary terminology and was antivax. She is constantly bragging about how she gives her “man” testicles and grass fed steak. A few months ago she got candida and decided to cut out fruit and eat mostly meat. She seems to live off of bone broth and steak. She also talks constantly about beta and alpha men and how birth control makes you pick beta men. She used to be drugs and her mother was a drug addict. Recently she’s started obsessing with cow shares. She’s also constantly putting women down for things like using vibrators or causally dating. Constantly talks about how important it is to take care of her man so she can be in her feminine. Says she had digestive issues before when she was drinking and doing drugs but still seems to have issues with certain foods.
4.
https://www.instagram.com/rewildcarlyrose“Rewildcarlyrose” aka Carly Rose Bergman. She used to be fruitarian but then decided to eat an ancestral diet. Says that she was starving herself before and she’s now gained weight to make herself more fertile. She is constantly talking about quantum healing.
5.
https://www.instagram.com/healingthesource“Healingthesource” aka Claudia keener Fulani
Claims to have suffered from a bunch of health problems but then healed from using herbal medicine. She has a podcast where she interviews other influencers. She has a linktree with over 40 affiliate links. She is constantly advertising a new product to detox. Like everyone else she is scared of seed oils and is on the masa chip bandwagon. She is always talking about “clean” to products
6.
https://instagram.com/jessalyn.randle“Jessalyn.randle” / Jess
Has only eaten steak and butter the past 4 years. Is constantly “debunking” needing to eat anything but meat with anecdotes. She thinks vitamin C is unnecessary but eats salsa even though she’s on the “lion diet”. She is eating only meat and butter while pregnant. She doesn’t believe in clinical research and thinks that “they” are trying to get everyone to stop eating meat. She claims she had digestion problems and couldn’t lose weight when she was an omnivore. She claims her digestion is great even though she eats such a limited diet. She believes the USDA is trying to make everyone infertile by recommending cereal.
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https://www.instagram.com/shannenmichaela“Shannenmichaela” / Shannen Michaela
Made a bunch of antivax TikTok videos. Moved to Costa Rica when she was pregnant to get a passport. Recently made ice cream from her breast milk. Bitcoin grifter. Claims the FDA is lying about the need for vitamin C. She is involved with a bunch of biohacking retreats. Makes pseudoscientific claims like fabric having energy. Talks about other conspiracies like burning man being made for social engineering.
They’re all antivax anti feminists that believe spreading your legs at the sun does something magical to your body. They al say sunscreen and seed oils cause cancer. There are many more influencers like this.
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Raf would be a good candidate for the thread. She lies this diet is the healthiest while being borderline obese with fat arms and does nothing but eat and spend all day at the beach unlike the rest of us who have 9-5 jobs. (1/4)
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(2/4)
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All these influencers having these dark tans will age them fast and the irony is most of them are racist too. (3/4)
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No. 2011813
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Finally, a peatard thread!
No. 2011817
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kekt
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SolBrah is another cow to watch
No. 2011823
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>he drinks his own urine
>feeding my man testicles
Some part of me refuses to accept that this isn't ebin trolling by a cryptononnie. Seriously considering starting a psyop tiktok to meme moids into drinking piss and eating cum
No. 2011844
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>>2011795Family influencers of all kinds are SO creepy about their kids and imo the spiritual/religious ones are always the worst. I literally found picrel within less than 2 minutes of scrolling, like genuinely what the fuck? Using your kid as content the second they're born? Spoilered for weird birthing shit.
No. 2011845
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mikhaila peterson should def be added to the OP, besides being jordan peterson's daughter with the accompanying ideology she's also a full time health grifter selling carnivore diet programs and supplements for hangovers lmao. she spergs about how eating anything and everything that's not steak will fuck up your body completely and make you mentally ill, while bogging herself to hell and back with fillers, botox and other procedures. like a typical bpd munchie she's been using all kinds of chronic gut/inflammation/allergy conditions etc as a cover up for mental illness and substance abuse issues since forever. her most recent bullshit fixation is mold toxicity which is totally causing all of her and her family's problems.
No. 2011900
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harschkylie is a smallercreator who has been animal based for 8 weeks. She made her instagram account back in may of 2024. She claims to have gone animal based to heal her gut and fix her hormone issues. Also another religious / trad girlie.
Common themes with these influencers: Christianity, traditional gender roles, red meat obsession, raw dairy obsession, fear of blue light, fear of fluoride, fear of seed oils, obsession with butter and tallow, fear of plant milks and nuts, fear of legumes, healing hormones obsession, digestive issues, fear of sunscreen, obsession with red light, fear of carbs (although some are okay with fruit), obsession with Himalayan salt, biohacking, adding salt to water, sourdough bread, etc. They all claim that these extreme diets have healed them from their ailments but then get sick the second they have something with seed oils or food colouring. Most of these influencers also talk about how society is disconnected from nature. Some of them do start their own homesteads but a lot do not.
No. 2011913
>>2011789Ooooo a thread where frank tufano and sv3rige belong! Kek
It looks like a lot more women are joining the psychosis these days.
No. 2012214
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This bitch pisses me off
No. 2012215
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Disgusting
No. 2012457
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iamsolomonica is not really crunchy but she does fall into the alt right category with all her conspiracy schizo posts about owning guns and living in the woods and her idolisation for ted kaczynski. pretty sure she’s skin walking haylujan too. when everyone was reposting that ai image for Palestine she made a snarky reel about white girls virtue signaling. Virtue signalling may be an issue in itself but she’s literally making schizo posts to get attention. Wow such an edge lord guns anime and acting like a cyborg
No. 2012504
>>2012214Did she just piss herself?!
>>2012457Fucking Pentagon, how does it work?
No. 2012549
>>2011900It's so funny and sad how these people really convince themselves they're doing something
The exact same thing as orthorexics and anachans
Nothing you do to try to have complete mastery and control over your body is going to work, eat a balanced diet of foods and stay somewhat active, this psychotic gym obsession and "everything is
toxic!!!" Mindset is so cringe and you just know they feel superior to other people for it which is even more rich
No. 2013024
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>>2013021And she's lying about it of course. You can clearly see underwear lines here.
No. 2013187
>>2013015>>2013014It’s simpler than that: there’s a massive market of boomers and middle aged moid simps willing to throw money at white women who parrot qtard conspiracy theories.
These chicks are simply exploiting a profitable current market. Same thing tradthots tried doing in 2021 (except that larp lifestyle fell apart much easier because tradthots preached such high behavioral standards while constantly failing it themselves).
The carnivore grift enables these narcs to be more authentically aggressive, degenerate, and obnoxious than the ‘feminine, wifely, submissive’ trad schtick, and these women can get away with it under the guise of being spirited, patriotic and ‘brave’.
No. 2013261
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She's only 20 but the excessive sun exposure makes her look older
No. 2013262
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Claims to be all about modesty then posts pics of herself in revealing swimwear. She could get a modest two-piece swimsuit if she wants but she refuses.
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Why are all these people obsessed with urine? It's like a fetish for them.
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Schizo raw milk cultist
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No. 2013359
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>>2013265Can we add @celestialbe1ing to this list of grifters? She is absolutely insufferable.
Most people I've met in the Ray Peat sphere (the ones who aren't autistic moids just mono-eating gummy bears and ice cream) are very helpful and are clearly just trying to learn more about health, get better, help others, etc.
She is one of the few who isn't. She take advantage of her large, mostly ill followers by making very generalized, retarded, and don't forget MONETIZED recommendations. Here's just SOME of her lore since amassing almost 60k followers.
>Be Veronica>Claim to deal with every health issue ever.>Starts "writing" articles and posting up-close videos of her drinking raw milk and eating sloppily on X… (it's been theorized that a moid is writing for her)>I think every woman should just buy and use OTC progesterone (literal HRT), you don't even need bloodwork, everyone benefits from it!!!>DMs start flooding in that exogenous progesterone is causing girls to have late periods among other side effects.>Ignores them.>I think everyone should be on synthetic thyroid supplementation (yes she actually said this)>Negates side effects of thyroid therapy such as possibility of creating reverse T3 (meaning you become MORE hypothyroid, high adrenaline reaction, etc.>Someone QT's her post questioning her use of orange juice for cooking…>Aggressively tweets back calling him an annoying freak for asking a harmless question>Take methylene blue with orange juice (but don't forget to use muh discount code!)>Compares methylene blue to taking CRACK>Negates side effects of taking a medical substance once again (but affiliate codes rake in that money!! I could care less!!)>Creates an almost exact copy of the infamous Ray Peat food pyramid and instead adds her name to it as if she's touting brand new, never-before-seen, nutritional guidance (pure narc behavior) No. 2013517
>>2013488Ray Peat followers aren’t “bad” because they are just hypochondriacs, it’s because they’re idiots who follow a man who spouts unscientific and nonsensical beliefs that are repackaged into anti-establishment health science.
>Ray literally claimed that an all milk diet could “grow a dog’s eyes back” https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CTvB9lDk5PM (12:12)>He proposes that estrogen is an inflammatory stress hormone instead of a reproductive one, and its mere presence in the body is harmful to both men and women.>Argues that individuals who are undiagnosed with hypothyroidism should undergo thyroid hormone therapy.>Discourages the use of chemotherapy/radiation therapy. Cancer patients should instead look to taking progesterone or testosterone to treat it.>Promotes the overconsumption of saturated fat, one of the main risk factors for heart disease. The list goes on and on. Anyone who follows him/ promotes his ideas should be immediately discredited.
No. 2013554
>>2013488Because it's a comically amerifat perspective crafted to be appealing to those who want to keep eating like sugar and butter addicted amerifats, yet not be fat.
Naturally, "bettering thyroid health" is doing a lot of heavy lifting here. Being a couchglued amerifat, Peat believed that LITERALLY everyone has hypothyroidism, therefore everyone should shoot thyroid hormones. And don't even get me started on his schizo estrogen shit, or broadly not understanding that faster metabolic rate = faster aging. Everything that old vegetable said was a medical Opposite World AU fanfic.
No. 2013565
>>2013511kek it does seem like that
Ive known of ray peat since mid 2010s, and BAP mentioned RP in his book, whenver that was published… (which is why so many of these faggy rw men know of ray peat)
No. 2013578
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Ray Peat: the original wellness cow
No. 2013588
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Phrenology is stupid.
No. 2013591
>>2013584>Having a fast metabolism is essential not to be fat Not running a calorie surplus is essential not to be fat
>Most people in American have a severe lack of energyBecause they're fat
>It doesn't have much to do with food.Not even FUPAs from seed oils?
>Having a faster metabolism doesn't correlate to faster aging.l2basic biology
>Sun exposure and stress cause aging. Oh God, you think it's about skin
>The key to living long is to eliminate stress as much as possible.Acute stress=\=chronic stress. Exercise is stress lmao
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Some of what he says is correct but this is how fast sun exposure ages you. I try not to get any sun exposure because of it.
No. 2013721
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>>2013713>>2013696He looks like he could be the son of Turkish cult leader Adnan Oktar.
No. 2013729
>>2013517>This is obviously one story that is heavily exaggerated.
>In extremely high levels or through ingesting xenoestrogens caused by environmental stressors, food contamination, BPAS, etc. it's absolutely an inflammatory stress hormone, something almost any EDUCATED MD will tell you to your face. Look at troons and gay moids, they are perfect examples.
>Go cite where he said this exactly regarding undiagnosed folks. Also, is it not a given that someone with clear hypothyroid symptoms should visit an endocrinologist that will consider they start thyroid therapy? From what I remember, he and Dr. Broda Barnes argued that a lot of the population is underdiagnosed (which turned out to be true years later) and that those without official diagnosis COULD benefit from thyroid therapy.
>Radiation therapy doesn't just kill cancer cells, but perfectly normal, healthy cells, that's widely known information. It can also cause secondary cancer cells and other issues to form later on. I don't know about testosterone but it's constantly cited that progesterone and aspirin both have strong anti-cancer properties.
>Again, cite where he promotes OVERconsumption.I'm not trying to whiteknight but you're making it too easy in a health/wellness snark thread. To say all his years of work and research into female health and hormones, something nearly all moid doctors are ignorant and uneducated on makes your reply look all the more retarded.
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God this is cringe. She growls at people like a furry.
No. 2013852
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Yes, they eat three sticks of butter in one go. Heart attack in 3, 2, 1…
No. 2013944
>>2013729This has to be the most retarded
and fat post I've read on lc, thank you for this.
>years of researchPost his peer reviewed work.
No. 2013978
>>2013759>>2013762Both of you are retarded. Clearly never been near a tallow moisturising cream in your life.
Sure, it's cow fat. Just like regular moisturiser (especially Vaseline) is actually petroleum-based slop.
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Interesting how some of these carnivore cultists are starting to use sunscreen now
No. 2015299
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Most people can't afford this food
No. 2015443
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>>2013359for a few months i have seen her posts around and found her very strange, weird (and like you said just verbatim rehashing ray peat writitngs). her posts read like they've been written by chatgpt
No. 2015448
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>>2015444just looked through her account, kek she is mental
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another one to watch in this sphere is @mscarnivore
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>>2015503almost like being extreme and obsessive about your food is not the answer
No. 2015701
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So much for "modesty"
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She says this while being overweight herself
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>>20157031) Because they don't exceed total daily calorie requirement on McDonald's (doable)
2) Because they have a mutation for effortless jackedness
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>>2015760Nta, but here's some basic info. And eating any sort of unbalanced diet will show on your face in terms of skin health, which has a huge impact on how you present.
No. 2017231
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These people are supposed to be living the most natural lifestyle but they are always going on about supplements and now injecting things to be unnaturally muscular. Very muscular physiques are not found in nature. You can look at any remote tribe to confirm that.
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Another cow
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Another one claiming to be Christian while dressing almost naked
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Hypocrites
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How fucking embarassing to act like a toddler at the store
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What is this schizophernia word salad
No. 2020190
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This bitch is so fucking milky, gave up her entire college career for a man that will 100% leaves if she were to complain 1/2
No. 2020191
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2/2 she claims the whole prefrontal cortex development by age 25+ is a lie.
No. 2020211
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How much do you wanna bet she’s going to pull an Alice lani in a few years
No. 2020214
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I cannot wait for these people to see how it feels to lose their children due to their own stupidity.
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No. 2020262
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Man, I can’t wait for the divorce arc with this one.
No. 2020272
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This cow in particular might need her own thread soon.
>leaves America because she “couldn’t do it anymore”
> was besties with Alice until the kidnapping allegations
>got pregnant by a Muslim man in Morocco and left after she realized she would have to convert
>puts her children in danger with the whole “world schooling” shit
This cow is surprisingly not anti feminist but she’s fucking stupid
No. 2020348
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Pedophile mindset
No. 2020354
>>2020348This is either
> I got groomed and therefore every other young girl should get groomed tooOr she's one of those women who grew up getting no male attention and now feels bitter about "lucky" teenage girls who get preyed on.
No. 2020358
>>2020354Lori married after she finished college and had worked for some years as a teacher to the husband she has today
she just hates women and girls and wants them to have nothing
her own daughters and daughters-in-law also married at reasonable ages after college
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Literal Retardation
No. 2020390
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>>2017723Theres no way this heifer bitch only eats an orange or grapefruit for breakfast. Shes huge. Another 27 BMI chubster larping as dainty anachan waif.
No. 2020433
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How bad do you think this hoe smells right now
No. 2020435
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Her @ is @backyardgardengirl
Do you think she saved up her urine or is she really dehydrated because how the fuck is it that dark
No. 2020644
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Apparently being paid as a woman for working is wrong?
No. 2020840
>>2020749Cows are becoming more obscure and cowishness more specific and atomized, nona. The proverbial thin milk. /snow/ is now a de facto cow board while /pt/ is dead, because the now mundane nature of online presence has ended the era of in your face insane cows that look jarring to absolutely everyone. Best we can do now is "cow to me because I happen to understand this specialized topic".
For people who are into health stuff, these can be pretty cowish. For example, haidut
>>2011813 from ray peat forums has a website or selling sketchy research chemicals to make you more "peaty". Don't know if anyone knows, but he is basically treated as Peat's heir, continuing and expanding his batshit insane health ideology.
Examples of the slop he sells is straight up anabolic roids, serotonin antagonists and banned performance enhancing drugs, all of them meant to "reduce your estrogen", "boost thyroid" and such. Why is haidut a depressed prematurely aged Balkan hamplanet if Peat's horseshit is true? Truly a mystery.
No. 2020877
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This is a holistic “therapist” who consistently over shares online, also she’s a stripper now? She’s a new age coach cow that has frequent rage episodes if you disagree in her comment section
No. 2020878
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She reminds me so much of Shayna @iamlindseylockett
No. 2020962
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I can’t wait until her sons grow up and become terrible husbands because mommy let them walk all over her.
No. 2021071
>>2020840Ray Peat has no ideological heir, and Ray Peat himself didn't want to be associated with the Christian nationalists and other brainwashed retards in the "Ray Peat Forum", which is where haidut started getting more attention. The administrator of that forum used Ray Peat's name without his permission, and is now using it to promote vitamin A detoxification, which is completely unrelated to Ray Peat's ideas.
Ray Peat appearing in interviews with haidut does not imply that he considered haidut to be his heir. Ray Peat used to do interviews with people of a huge diversity of ideological backgrounds.
It's really strange to me, as someone who's been aware of Ray Peat's work for many years before it became popular, that so many right-wing autistics are beginning to promote a very simplistic and incorrect representation of Ray Peat's dietary ideas, starting right after his death. Ray Peat himself did not follow such a strict version of the "Ray Peat diet" which was popularized by people like Danny Roddy (before he become a little more nuanced with his own interpretation of Ray Peat), where you drink milk and orange juice only; Peat himself seemed to be more flexible in his diet, though dairy and sugar from fruits were important parts of his diet.
Haidut, based on his forum posts, does not seem to put Ray Peat's ideas into practice, where you focus on improving your diet and environment. Haidut almost exclusively talks about supplementation, which Peat nearly always tried to avoid relying on, and obscure chemicals, which all relate to the products he's selling through his company.
Danny Roddy, another popular "influencer" in the newly-popular "Peat-sphere" seems to enjoy interacting with and promoting right-wingers under the assumption that Peat would've tried to help people regardless of their ideological orientation. But he seems to forget that Ray Peat was absolutely opposed to the "internet culture" of stereotypes and reductionist ideologies, which Danny Roddy's right-wing "Peat-inspired" friends are relying heavily on.
I personally benefitted deeply from studying Ray Peat's ideas. I probably would've died from severe health issues that I suffered from for years had I not found his work. The increasingly widespread mischaracterization of his work through idiotic memes, flippant right-wing "jokes" and ideological expositions disguised as syntheses of scientific research, promoted by venal health and political influencers starting suddenly after his death is very sad especially when his own work is easily accessible from his own website and interviews.
Another interesting part about the forums related to Ray Peat is that there used to be another forum named peatarian.com, which had less authoritarian moderation and a wider ideological range in the userbase. The owner of that website claimed a few years ago that some of the currently popular people in the "Peat-sphere" were threatening and harassing him, which made him take down the website. Who knows to what extent this claim is true. But it's clear based on Ray Peat's work and interviews that he would not like seeing the current right-wing meme perversion of his ideas, promoted by the popular "Peat-inspired" influencers, replacing his own work.
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I’m deeply disturbed by this statement
Think about all the women who have died from this type of advice.
No. 2021126
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>>2021090Doing a bit of background check this bitch is just a gooner weirdo obsessed with having orgasms in inappropriate situations and thinks cumming is the answer to everything. Literally a haggard hippie female version of 'Der coomer' kek.
No. 2021139
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Why do tradthots even bother with posting kek, they should just actually live and not be online but we all know she’s gotta shill her bullshit to make ends meet.
No. 2021189
>>2021176Ray Peat warned against eating too much beef liver, to avoid getting excessive vitamin A. But there were people on that forum who ate ounces of beef liver every day and recommending others do the same.
The forum's owner is a Christian evangelical who claims he's doing God's work by spreading misinformation about Ray Peat (he claims he's "completing" Ray Peat's work) and promoting "vitamin A detoxification" which is unrelated to anything Peat said or wrote. I've seen other evangelicals on that website follow the owner on "vitamin A detoxification", suddenly abandoning whatever they conceived of as "Peating".
The vitamin A detoxification pivot happened soon after Peat died and Joseph Mercola started publicly disparaging a progesterone product named "Progest-E", which Ray Peat developed; I'm guessing Mercola tried to/is trying to sell his own progesterone product and destroy competition (I haven't been following closely lately). The forum owner probably senses money to be made from the vitamin A grift and befriending Mercola by eroding what he perceives is Ray Peat's legacy.
No. 2021217
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Holistic gooner
No. 2021219
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Hey lesbians, watch out for this one
>has “boot camp” & “workshop” for shilling sex therapy
>claims birth can be orgasmic
>promotes that you should have sex toys while you’re about to give birth
>does the whole yoni steaming/massage shit
>promotes “cockfidance” and that women should suck men like there’s no tomorrow
No clue where she stands politically but this one is nuts
No. 2021231
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Here’s a cow I’ve been following for a bit that’s been crunchy and antivax for a while now. She’s definitely milky for a multitude of reasons.
@laila_wolf_ @skeletonflowersandwater
>claims vaccines made her retarded and made her forget how to read
>claims to have a traumatic brain injury that she healed with only herbs and supplements
>her mom Lisa claims to have healed her via essential oils and taking “the peoples chemist” supplements which she has shilled out a lot
>claims to be famous and knows Johnny depp and was a ghost writer for rhianna
>her mom also claims that Elaina/laila is a famous movie director for Hulu
>promotes colloidal silver supplements over vaccines in her online magazine that currently got taken down
>claims to be a famous author (she’s only written 3 books that aren’t that popular and most likely it’s her mom)
>claims to be all natural but uses excessive photoshop (in older post especially)
>posts weird dancing videos in her moms room and you can tell she thinks natural deodorant works based off the sweat stains
>claims she’s not a sexual person and that she is modest despite her photos that she posts
>most of her followers aren’t real, it’s just mainly bots and Indian men
>claims that she’s releasing 12 movies to Netflix and Hulu and that she’s coming out with a holistic documentary
>has been orthorexic since she was a child as her mom’s claims she’s been “organic her whole life”
>was married before but claims it’s not real despite there being photos of her wedding
>left leaning but doesn’t think doctors are real
>believes in herbal abortions
>during COVID she didn’t believe that masks were working and used to rant that they were spreading illnesses
>her mom takes creep shots of her ass 24/7 on all her videos and photos
She’s probably schizophrenic but her mom definitely is a nut job too.
No. 2021239
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>>2021219>penetrated>ravished and left breathless Pick one
it's always the orgasmless asexual women who believe this romance novel shit kek No. 2021267
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Nonnas, do you think a moid told her that giving birth should be orgasmic because what the actual fuck 1/2
No. 2021268
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Yeah when your clit rips from childbirth you’ll definitely cum! 2/2
No. 2021269
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eddie abbew has been a personal cow for me for a little while now
>retarded bodybuilder
>old enough to know better
>goes to supermarkets and films himself chimping out about tOxiC foods like bread and bbq sauce
>said you can cure crohns disease
>wAkE tHe fUCk Up
>meals largely consist of 6 eggs and a steak
>thinks he’s so enlightened and above everyone else
i do wonder how many of his followers just follow him for the lols. i don’t want to believe that this many people are that retarded.
No. 2021279
>>2021274>>2021276The materially inaccurate way pregnancy is portrayed will never cease to amaze me. People get massively
triggered if you tell them how it actually works. Women in particular prefer Disney woo-woo about harmony between mom and baby, which ironically is a result of the exact mechanisms they deny the existence of.
Rightoids and leftoids reside on the opposite spectrums of biological reality denial.
No. 2021283
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Clearly natural deodorant works right? You just need to “detox” your pits kek
No. 2021362
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>>2021231Forgot to add more details about Laila
>claims to have Heterochromia (she’s just like Chris Chan here) and that her eyes change color every hour (said this in a livestream) >claims that the brain injury was from multiple stories (story 1: she was in a car accident, story 2: she was apparently raped and had a brick hit her head). She switches between these stories a lot >Her sister in law (her older brothers wife) promotes the whole “raw is law” concept, her SIL also promotes home birth and is currently doing “world school/road schooling” her kids. >claims her ornamental horticulture degree is what makes her a scientist and that she’s a woman in STEM other than being an actress, singer, model, whatever retarded title she wants >claimed to be Romani at one point on TikTok (though her family shows online that she’s Jewish) apparently being “romani” = being a witch to her and that’s how she’s a “master herbalist” >claims to have healed her father who survived a car accident with the peoples chemist supplements >she has also never been to a doctor other than an eye doctor and would brag about it on stream via TikTok. She claims that you can naturally heal your eyesight with honey currently this cow hasn’t gone on a livestream in a while but when she does she’ll be back spouting her nonsense once again. She also states that her holistic magazine is coming back as a film now, so let’s see how that’ll turn out.
No. 2021364
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This is from Laila’s “wolfsbane magazine” where she mentions taking Colloidal Silver (though it can turn you fucking blue and silver). Unfortunately her magazines are no longer up but that’s a screenshot I had from years ago. She mentioned Colloidal Silver in old posts about being a replacement for the vaccine but that’s gone too.
No. 2021381
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uh oh, her hog husband must’ve been upset so she had to make sure there’s an article “in her own words”.
No. 2021382
>>2021381Her husband is so fucking creepy. he sounds so smug and narcissistic. It's like he's playing dollhouse IRL
No. 2021393
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>>2021217bitch what the FUCK is a cervical orgasm
No. 2021471
I don’t want to fearmonger but I sincerely hope the deranged anons who attacked pregnant women and mothers in the previous tradthot threads and called them breeders etc won’t find their way into this thread.. or this thread will be shut down by mods as well.
>>2021219Megakek. My endometriosis would disagree.
>>2020644What does this even supposed to mean? Are we supposed to work or not? I guess that means we are supposed to do unpaid labor.
>>2020962Does anyone take tradthots seriously anymore? Except for underage girls or severely autistic women maybe? (Who are both vulnerable and need better support)
Basically it’s a ticket for unpaid domestic labor and mild control & abuse from a man until you’re in your 30’s or 40’s and he kicks you out to be with a younger girl. Who would sign up for this kind of lifestyle? All of these women who promote a traditional life for other women have marketing degrees and are trying to shill an online class to “shape your life”.
No. 2021495
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At least with Laila’s dancing videos she can’t shoop her “natural and organic” body kek. Also why the fuck does she dance like that?
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C6LksHuANCG/?igsh=MXNqZml3eGhyMzlscw==Won’t let me embed this link at all
No. 2021502
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/CdrQbcalHTl/?igsh=NW44bDh2dXVsenNp (Can’t embed Instagram links)
Here’s where she claims to be disabled. Her old posts would claim she healed herself with only the peoples chemist supplements and with herbs lmfao. Here she claims that she got her brain damaged from a car accident.
No. 2021521
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She looks like that one girl from bobs burgers kek. I wonder if her old magazines will come back up since she used mywomags (free online app, you have to constantly update your “magazine” to keep it up) or if she’s going to make a whole documentary like she says she is. For the last 3 years now she’s been saying her movies are coming out. Also none of her actors are paid.
No. 2021523
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https://www.instagram.com/p/B0pJumOHker/?igsh=MWhxdmx1NTRjaG90Zw== (Can’t embed Instagram links) a few years ago she claimed she was making an organic clothing line but that never happened. If I was this delusional my family would put me in a psych ward. But I think this is showing more delusions of grandeur considering she thinks she’s a movie star, director, model, singer, scientist, and fashion designer. She’s just a mid girl from Trenton.
No. 2021572
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I’m speechless
No. 2021580
>>2021531kek as if there weren't thousands of men complaining about childish behaviour of their gf/wifes on the internet already
>>2021572I'm admiring the creativity to come with such brilliant bullshit to sell. The only sexual education this woman had is from porn it seems
No. 2021757
>>2021405nobody tell them
But also this shit is incredibly vexing, quit acting like you can manifest a cervix at the end of your inverted cock sock with enough willpower and magic horse piss
No. 2021861
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Another anachan larper this Raf who posts about quack weight loss methods every other post while being BMI 26. "Nature's ozempic" "eating under sun causes weight loss"
No. 2021880
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Dylan McDermotts ex wife is also a dumbass LA wellness guru. Posting a video of women fetishizing teen pregnancies then talking about how she told her own daughters to have babies at 16. These middle aged women who are obsessed with teen girls wombs give creepy predatory vibes. No wonder Dylan M divorced this gross pedo bitch.
No. 2021882
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>>2021880She posts constant pro Russia pro Putin pro Hezbollah stuff too. And is also a fan of the jade eggs to 'tighten' her vagina kek. She also endorses that creepy LA white guru Jagat who tried to cover up a bunch of sexual abuse committed by their cult leaders and is also a qanon tard.
No. 2021892
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KEK as if men weren’t abandoning their families well before then.
No. 2021894
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Turns out Laila wolf was friends with andrew Haan and he was outed as a rapist, she also made a song with him about being “eco friendly”. this bitch raves about being organic and eco friendly yet shops at temu and SHEIN lmfao. 1/2
No. 2022643
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This cow here, only eats raw meat and raw milk. The purest of the raw bitches on here.
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C8HgdFKM-BZ/?igsh=NnFmdTZqeDR4eWt0 (Can’t embed Instagram links).
No. 2022808
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Laila Wolfs sister in law, Diana/Deana loves the whole raw is law. It was mentioned previously on here but now we have some proof of this. 1/2
No. 2022809
>>2022688They officially lost their minds after covid happened, kek. Lockdowns broke their brains. Being inundated 24/7 by 'alternative media' sources like qanon and using right wing twitter as their main news outlet while locked up in their rooms with no outside social interaction turned them all into /pol/ tier schizo neckbeards. They're still awaiting the great vaxxie die-off, just two more weeks.
>>2022722>>2022807I mean there's literally DNA tests you can take to find out what your ancestors mostly ate. No surprises, most Europeans comes back as grain and root vegetables. Meat was a luxury and it meant expending a lot of energy on hunting. Unless your ancestors all lived in Siberia or something where there's nothing else to forage it's unlikely you're going to find meat as your main food source.
No. 2022811
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Deana was a endoscopy technician, so I’m confused how she even fell into the raw milk bullshit. Currently she’s traveling the world with her 3 kids, husband and dog all jam packed into a car. Laila might be with her currently but I doubt she could actually leave the grasp of her mom.
No. 2022814
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Once again kek, Laila can’t shoop her “natural and organic and honest” face and body in her videos. I honestly think her terrible shooping should be posted in the shoop thread too.
No. 2022821
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I don’t even understand why shoop so many of your photos but not your videos if you want to claim the whole organic beauty thing.
No. 2022828
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I figured there should be some more information about this cow who’s married into our cow Laila’s family. The “wolf” last name isn’t Elaina/lailas real last name, it’s her “celebrity” last name. Her real last name is D’Angelo.
>russian migrant, has 3 children who she feeds raw milk too but is also gluten free at times
>her husband (Laila wolf’s brother) Salvatore “Sam” is a vegan and a website coder.
>supports raw is law
>supports home birth
>used to work in a hospital as an endoscopy tech but left to become an anti medicine, anti science trad wife
>currently “roadschooling” her children
>thinks that home birth is the safest choice compared to medically supervised birth
>goes to chiropractic offices for her children and when her youngest daughter was a newborn (letting a chiropractor fuck with your newborns neck can kill them.).
>before her road schooling adventure, she was homeschooling her children.
>based on who she took home birth advice from on Instagram if’s clear her children most likely do not have any form of documentation as most crunchy people believe getting your child a social security card makes them a slave to America.
>most of Elaina and Deana’s holistic advice comes from snake oil Instagram pages.
>she eventually plans to drag her family across Europe to do “world schooling”
>currently she’s on the west coast with her 3 daughters, husband, and dog. They stopped renting from their apartment and live in a car 24/7, not even in a trailer.
No. 2022830
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Example of where the dangelos get their advice from kek.
No. 2022847
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>>2022836Most Europeans besides Finns and Balts dont even have that much hunter gatherer dna.
No. 2022854
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Nonnas, we finally have our final MLM crunchy boss. Rebecca Mock. (
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C-N78FqxmW6/?igsh=eWh6enJhMzNpamVh)
She sells organic hair products and is trying to recruit people to sell her snake oil. She also clearly has survivor bias as she’s a cancer survivor.
No. 2022876
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Most of these cows listen to Paul saladinos advice. No wonder why they constantly bitch about stomach issues, this cuts out a lot of fiber. But “muh veggies cause cancer”.
No. 2022881
>>2022830>GMOs aren't necessary!>The gubbermint subsidizes GMOs!For some crops, you literally would not be able to buy them (even from farmer's markets) without GMOs because their innate shelf lives are so short. Like, too short to actually package and transport it. I don't think it's possible to obtain a non-GMO tomato in the United States, because they all have a few apple genes now (yes, even the seeds) so they can actually last more than a few days. There are no legal limitations on stamping your product with "non GMO," so these retards are basically just paying more for produce purely because of a sticker. GMOs are an alternative to pesticides, because you can give them genetic traits that make them less appealing to insects and fungi. You can be GMO-free or pesticide-free, but it's impossible to be both. GMOs are completely safe, and anyone who tells you otherwise is a crunchy retard who beliefs what their favorite momfluencers on TardTok tell them.
The main harm GMOs cause is to small businesses, which are less likely to have access to the latest new varieties of produce. But this isn't just the case for GMOs, it's a problem with all farming equipment associated with mass production. These gigantic farming operations aren't sustainable and they harm small business, and GMOs are just one tiny part of that.
No. 2022888
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Looks like our family cow Diana/deana (the women in this family have nicknames or different variants they go by), is starting a mommy blogger website her husband is making for her. She’s already preaching about home birth. Let’s see if the raw milk nonsense will be on there too.
Here’s the link to it.
https://d-ana.com/ No. 2022933
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@carnivoreishh is a carnivore enthusiast, just like a lot of them he’s a local Florida man coke head. His account is mainly full of fear mongering, slamming down raw milk, and has an extreme case of orthorexia.
No. 2022937
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The fucking hat
No. 2022942
>>2022938most people can have oxalates daily with no issues, but people with a hereditary disposition to kidney stones can have issues
Miley Cyrus’s boyfriend is not a statistically significant sample
No. 2022990
>>2013265Unsurprising they have dirty
femcel habits lying about being the purest women ever, the harsh truth is these girls are the middest and below average uggos that have to use the facade of filtered face claim pictures and submission when they don't mean it to trick their beloved red pill manospherians into donating or sending dick pics to them. There's a reason the benevolent chauvinists in real life don't want them.
(sage your shit) No. 2023006
>>2022828Ugh, is she aware that in order to travel to and across Europe, her kids would need documentation?
>>2022961I think the other anon might have read "libertarian" as "liberal". But you can also have left-wing libertarians:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-libertarianism.
No. 2023007
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>>2023006It’s not clear if the last one has documentation. Diana/deanas children, Phoenix and juniper were presumably born in a hospital so most likely those two have documentation.
Here are the @s on Instagram for the family for nonas to go look as well. This is one of those few instances where the whole family is organic/crunchy/anti vax, even the people that marry into this family.
@laila_wolf_ (Elaina)
@skeletonflowersandwater (Lisa and Elaina)
@deana_dangelo
@__threesam (Salvatore, Elaina’s brother and Deana’s husband.).
@lisaannwolf (Lisa, Elaina and Salvatore’s mom)
@wolfbanemagazine (Elaina’s organic Instagram magazine.)
@the.writer.girl (Elaina)
@polarmomentmagazine (elaina)
No. 2023181
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Here’s an herbalist that might fit into this thread here
Oddly enough a lot of the cows posted here follow her advice and buy her “remedies”.
>claims that her PCOS blend can help those with it
>constantly fear mongering about sugar
>she’s posted on snark boards on Reddit due to her weird NYC drama
>has a health podcast that talks about diet and holistic health, some of the people on the podcast are self diagnosed chiropractors.
No. 2023183
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Our raw meat cow isn’t eating these eggs raw, I’m so disappointed. clearly she’s not raw enough. Also this is a recipe for farting and shitting.
No. 2023184
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Are the fucking worms talking?
No. 2023244
>>2023184All that helpful bacteria
>Raw milk can contain harmful bacteria like listeria, salmonella, E. coli, and campylobacter, which can cause severe or life-threatening illnesses. For example, listeria can cause miscarriage, illness, or death in newborns, and hemolytic uremic syndrome can lead to kidney failure, stroke, and death. Unclean conditions on dairy farms and contact with animal waste can also introduce harmful germs into raw milk. No. 2023307
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This 100% most likely did not happen kek
No. 2023315
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Her thyroid must be working overtime
No. 2023316
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This isn’t raw enough, clearly she doesn’t actually eat that raw meat
No. 2023331
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Laila is holistic Chris Chan, let’s hope that there won’t be an incest arc.
No. 2023370
>>2023183So Paul Saladino suddenly changed his mind on fruit and all of his "independent thinker" speshul followers who used to shit on fruit just so happen to change their diets in the exact same way as him right afterwards?
Also cook your meat holy fuck!
No. 2023379
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None of these people are actually skinny(rattle rattle)
No. 2023390
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>>2023379Sounds like she's coping about not being picked.
Brad probably dumped her when he realized what an obnoxious loon she is.
It's so funny all these wellness freaks are in a constant state of narcissistic injury and lashing out/ arguing for hours with randos on twitter is the only outlet they have for all their impotent rage.
No. 2023399
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The holistic gooner goes on a rant about how casual sex is junk food sex and how to have exploding orgasms from your cervix and shoot it out of your cervix as if it’s like semen. Also why do these holistic cows never look healthy? Either fat or damn near anorexic.
No. 2023401
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He made a post years ago about collagen powder being poison and then made his own kek. Can’t wait for his own seed oil brand
No. 2023402
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Ah yes, honey and salt. The cure for everything. Tell cancer patients this for their aches.
No. 2023406
>>2023307The far more likely version:
> "Muh organic trad family needs to hear the word of god"> Waddled into a sermon> To their horror, the congregation wasn't screeching about how estrogen is the devil's ambrosia and focused instead on sentiments like "god wants you to be nice to your spouse"> Seethed in silence for 2 hours> Waddled home> Banged out this crypost while slurping on healthy organic pissbeer>>2023379>>2023390This one seems so,
so close to cracking her crunchy shell, it's actually kind of annoying me to see the ignored common sense kek
No. 2023407
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I hope this cow fits in here, but Colleen Faltot is a crunchy/anti medicine/yogi/healer coach. She believes 100% that she can control the weather. 1/2
No. 2023408
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2/2. Yes she is also a drug addict.
No. 2023412
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“Not medical advice” proceeds to give advice for health.
No. 2023421
>>2023405>>2023414To be absolutely fair, there's a few reasons why honey is better for you than sugar.
> It has an acidic PH so bacteria is unlikely to flourish in it.> It's "thirsty", meaning that it naturally has a low water content and will absorb moisture out of pathogens, which kills them. At the same time it doesn't do a good job of retaining the water so it gets expunged.> Generally just contains more vitamins and minerals than sugar.> It's also better (but still not good) for your teeth and erodes enamel way more slowly.That being said, it's not the miracle elixir these guys want you to believe.
No. 2023441
>>2011789Why did this guy name himself after Marcus Aurelius? I must have missed the part in the Meditations where he talked about the importance of red meat.
The diet in Ancient Greece and Rome was based on wheat and vegetables, meat was a luxury/occasion food just like it was for most pre-modern people.
No. 2023464
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>>2023462He posts it himself. I’m trying to find the one where he’s posted the direct Airbnb complaint about him sunning his asshole in public and throwing out the owners seed oils/not cleaning up after himself. He reposts so much it’s a lot to dig through. There’s another screenshot he posted where the Airbnb owner reported him for harassing vegan guests.
No. 2023542
>>2023522According to this article it really is a schizo moid, but then again it's BuzzFeed so take it with a grain of salt.
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/katienotopoulos/carnivore-aurelius-meat-influencer-not-a-womanReposting bc I replied to the wrong post.
No. 2023557
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Elaina is claiming that she was in a wheelchair in high school but all the photos of her from high school show her walking, also she was homeschooled for a bit. There’s no legal evidence of the 2018 “car accident” she claims of. She also wasn’t in high school in 2018, she didn’t even graduate. She left high school in 2017. The holistic malingering is crazy. If she was truly that injured, all those dancing videos wouldn’t be happening. She’s got dancing videos from 2016-now. She also claims that she’s never been to a neurologist/physical therapy/any doctor. The self diagnosis in the holistic movement is fucking crazy. In another comment an actor said it was hers but unfortunately that TikTok is gone.
No. 2023562
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>>2023390>what an obnoxious loon she is.reminded me of this tweet from her from a while back
No. 2023592
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She doesn't look too bad though, maybe her diet has some validity but not the weird political opinions inserted
No. 2023621
>>2023592Most of these health influencers have no understanding of the diets they're promoting. They're just following memes and other health influencers who are just as clueless. I believe most of these people don't even follow the diet or dietary philosophies they seemingly espouse well enough to prove or disprove whether a diet works.
Also, tons of people look like her without following any specific diet.
No. 2023643
>>2023592She looks like a very generic Essex british woman who has had a ton of fillers
I wouldnt even notice this woman in a crowd, shes so unremarkable
No. 2023704
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Her main TikTok page is gone. So much of her crazy shit is gone. We only have the account that’s her and Lisa @skeletonflowersandwater
Lisa runs another account, @cheeseburgercharlie you can tell it’s Lisa based off of the all organic ingredients, the kitchen is the same in all of Elaina’s videos.
Sam also has a TikTok which is the same username as his Instagram @___threesam. What’s weird as fuck is the fact that Lisa’s sock account flirts with Elaina and calls her a sexy goddess.
No. 2023739
>>2023307fake or this cow managed to find the most based pastor alive (i support beating the evil out of moids)
hopefully we only need to worry about these tards for maybe a decade before melanoma and hepatitis e take them
No. 2023742
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So raw meat cow might be a nepo baby.
She claims she used to be a model but Jesus fucking Christ, that's a $45 bottle of olive oil. You mean to tell me she goes through bottles of that? You can go to Trader Joe's and get organic olive oil for so much cheaper. I wonder if she's being funded by her parents or has an onlyfans.
No. 2023743
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So our raw meat cow claims to be a model but there’s barely any proof of this. Her LinkedIn claims that she is a nutrition coach as well as owning a crystal business?
No. 2023760
>>2023754She was most likely banned for a few reasons:
1. The followers she bought (TikTok might’ve been alerted about some type of bot activity.)
2. Her sexual videos
3. The dangerous holistic advice
No. 2023766
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When will the tape worm saga begin for the raw meat holistic hoes
No. 2023767
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Our raw meat cow, Ashley English before her raw meat lifestyle.
No. 2023771
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This is Ashley English now. Almost every single raw meat, carnivore person looks like they have bad sunburn, I guess they think beef tallow or coconut oil works as a sun screen.
No. 2023779
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>>2023777This Kurdish woman is already on it. She made a dude with cancer drink her piss to “cure” his cancer. She owns a holistic retreat in the Caribbean.
No. 2023787
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>>2023766As if it needs to be clarified again, these people are straight fucking retarded. Why would it be easier to digest something that
hasn't been pre broken down to a certain extent (ie cooking) than something that has. Weird fetish shit is right.
No. 2023789
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Meet derya nuroj, or @deryanuroj on TikTok. Currently like a lot of the cows here, her TikTok is gone and a lot of her social media presence is gone.
>diagnosed schizophrenic
>has a gay husband
>drinks her own piss
>has a holistic retreat in Costa Rica
>kurdish migrant that lived in Canada
>went no contact with her family after a spiritual awakening
>blamed herself for getting raped because she claims she has “rapeable Energy”
>claims her piss has cured cancer
>has made people play with her feces
>her family had posts saying they were worried for her
Currently it’s hard to find her on social media but I had saved so much of her schizophrenic shit
No. 2023792
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This account is linked to her as it talks about the holistic retreat she had. It costed around 2K-5K to go on this retreat.
No. 2023793
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Seems like dreya went back to being Muslim? But all the videos of her are gone other than what I have saved. I have 3 TikTok’s I saved so I’ll see how I can get them on here.
No. 2023794
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I think this might be a piss drinking cult, almost similar to love has won cult.
No. 2023797
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>>202378790% of the people who believe this stuff are complete midwits with no science background. To them anything "natural" is better and you can't tell them otherwise. Just kek at them as they sun their assholes, slob 500 calories of butter on their meals, and get skin cancer and premature aging. The fact that most of them have an anti semitic rationale for doing this should have been listed in the OP too
No. 2023831
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Looked up her old username on TikTok @dayadreya, this came up kek
No. 2023833
>>2023826theres no way this isnt just some kink thing
paypal doesnt allow money to be exchanged for sex work or biological fetish related stuff
i guess calling it healing or medicine is a legal loophole
No. 2023835
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>>2023833She does this at a place she owns. On the website you can request all that shit as a healing session.
No. 2023919
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Kek
No. 2023924
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>>2023902those are still prepared by professionals though. these people are literally just buying some random beef and making dishes that'd get them qualified for a kitchen nightmares episode. and the raw dairy shit is literally so gross it's not even defendable from any angle. picrel is the raw milk one of the bigger swedish trve viking nazi cows on twitter is buying and drinking.
>>2023919i don't get this. is this directed at men or women? don't they want to maxx their estrogen and testosterone respectively? then why promote the same diet to both men and women alike?
No. 2023932
>>2023925>>2023924In Ray Peat extended universe, estrogen is a
toxic stress hormone and you should have 0 of it as a man or woman. Instead, both men and women should have sky high progesterone that totally won't make you look and act like a pregnant sow. A variety of retarded Haidut tier solutions, like taking ER receptor positive breast cancer chemotherapy, are employed to deal with the "estrogen problem".
Other incredible peatard advice is taking 100000 IUs of preformed retinol daily. If you are familiar with petard forums at all, there is now a sizeable number of "anti vitamin A" and "vitamin A detox diet" people there, causing a lot of seethe amongst the OG Peat disciples. The reason for that equally extreme opinion is because many peatards actually fucked around with the one morbillion IU of retinol meme. After losing a nice amount of hair, bone mineral density and
sheets of skin, they found out that vitamin A toxicity isn't actually reversible, so now they try to eliminate dietary sources thinking it will deplete their tissue retinol stores topkek. As per usual with peatards, the rationale behind supraphysiological vitamin A levels is likely an attempt to stop being a hamplanet without closing their ravenous pieholes, since retinoic acid toxicity is expected (but not guaranteed) to result in anorexia.
No. 2023956
>>2023933NTA
“It depends on the status of your thyroid, exactly, because the thyroid hormone and Vitamin A are carried on the same protein in the blood and if you take too much Vitamin A, it can act as an antagonist to thyroid. It acts like a polyunsaturated fat, in competing against the thyroid hormone and can also block the production of adrenal and ovarian steroids if you get too much.
10,000 IU a day if your thyroid is okay. People with very high thyroid activity sometimes need more like
50,000 IU Vitamin A because the increased thyroid raises your requirement for Vitamin A so it’s important to adjust the dose according to the thyroid function.”
If you read older threads in the Ray Peat forum you can see them talking about supplementing a ton of vitamin A.
No. 2023965
>>2023956You can get 10,000 IU of vitamin A a day from a reasonable amount of vegetables, meat and other food sources. He emphasizes that you can get that much if your thyroid is okay, and in that same video warns against having too much vitamin A if your thyroid is not okay, aka the people in forums trying to fix their health. With the 50,000 IU figure he's talking about extreme cases. He repeatedly warned against taking too much vitamin A in relation to one's need even in that video you linked.
I don't know what the retards at the forum do have anything to do with what Peat said when he explicitly warned against taking too much more vitamin A than you need. Those people dip their balls in DHEA and use white mushrooms as replacements for viagra when Peat never even talked about anything like that. Whenever Peat says anything remotely positive about a substance, those people take the most extreme possible ways of implementing it in their lives, despite him never suggesting they do anything close.
1:26:19 of this video is one example among many of him warning against taking too much vitamin A.
No. 2023975
>>2023965The point was that the figures were still excessive with him recommending up to 50,000 IU, which is bullshit. You said he never advise taking tons of vitamin A, but he did. He even said he was taking up to 100,000 IU per day before and cited a research suggesting that amount was beneficial
>I don't know what the retards at the forum do have anything to do with what Peat said when he explicitly warned against taking too much more vitamin A than you need.Well, that's the point of what
>>2023932 said. Peatards were being retarded supplementing excessive amounts of Vitamin A. The Ray Peat forum is not 100% Ray Peat's ideas, the peaters probably took inspiration from the weston a price foundation regarding the vitamin A supplementation or similar psuedoscience
No. 2023980
>>2023975>You said he never advise taking tons of vitamin A, but he did.
>Other incredible peatard advice is taking 100000 IUs of preformed retinol daily. I said Ray Peat never advised taking huge amounts in reply to the above statement. It's misleading to say that he recommended 100,000 IU daily to people when he said even 5,000 IU can be too much for regular people (16:44 in the linked video).
Whenever he talked about taking large doses of vitamin A, it was in the context of providing a temporary solution to fixing deficiencies in people with very high metabolic rates, like he claims he was in the video when he was younger. He does not suggest that normal people take 100,000 IU every day regularly.
No. 2023985
>>2023932It's nuts because progesterone only pills are one of the most popular form of birth control nowadays and countless women have reported awful side effects from it.
It's been proven estrogen protects you from so many diseases like heart diseases, arthritis and also slows down ageing, it's why things like myocarditis are so much more common in men, why arthritis gets unbearable for women after menopause, and why women generally live longer than men too, so making estrogen seem like the enemy is insane. My guess is its just angry scrote petards who hate anything to do with women and blame 'estrogen in da water' for themselves being born dysgenic and low T.
No. 2023991
>>2023990I changed my mind about something I said which is why I deleted my previous reply. If you want to keep debating Ray Peat's principles let's take it to
>>>/g/422719, not here.
No. 2023996
>>2023991>>2023990NTA but the only thing I'd ever heard of Ray Peat was the vitamin A megadosing stuff tbh, I wasn't sure if it came directly from him but it's clearer now. His followers definitely pushed it nonstop, 50,000 is still an insane dose to take.
I think some are also ignoring the fact that a lot of these people in this community are legit psychos, schizos, narcs etc and actually just get off on giving bad advice to people and watching them sabotage themselves after being used as human guinea pigs.
I mean some of these alt lifestyle health freaks have literally endorsed inhaling mercury fumes and taking dangerous FDA banned supplements for weight loss that have a proven long track record of giving people heart attacks and strokes, while claiming its da joos or some other 'big pharma' conspiracy that it got banned. Paranoid delusions, sabotage, gatekeeping and generalized misanthropy are very very strong in the right wing health grift comm.
No. 2023999
>>2023996It's also about money. The supplement industry is worth 180 billion dollars a year in the US alone. More people are taking supplements than ever, yet people are still less healthy than ever.
The other thing about most herbs and supplements is that theyre not actually tested nor are they required to be, so you can literally shove anything in there and claim its still good.
So many grifters in pushing nootropics and tinctures that they literally made in their bathtub with god knows what.
No. 2024002
>>2023996A lot of these "nutrition community" people are extremely ideological and orthorexic. If someone they worship as a god or guru says some substance is good, then it's absolutely good. Somehow it all relates to a right-wing fantasy of having esoteric knowledge and being a "wolf among sheep", struggling against the modern world, and doing the opposite of whatever is popular.
Ray Peat himself was generally left-leaning politically but a lot of his so-called followers on the internet are far-right autists who routinely repeat incel and /pol/ rhetoric. There are also tons of "nutrition gurus" who are taking bits of Ray Peat's flexible nutritional ideas and selling them as rigid protocols like Paul Saladino and many others who shill themselves on the "Ray Peat Forum", trying to create their own group of people who depend on their secret knowledge.
No. 2024025
>>2023980And if he wasn't a sick decomposing retard, he'd know that no one in the first world is deficient due to fortification and heavily animal-based diet. If you're deficient you probably have organ failure and therefore bigger problems than your vitamin A levels.
Popping a megadose of A (and D, for that matter) is as retarded as supplementing daily. These vitamins are fat soluble.
No. 2024032
>>2024025A deficiency of vitamin A doesn't usually lead to such extreme symptoms like organ failure lmao
You know high doses of vitamin A over brief periods every few months used to be the standard for treating vitamin A deficiencies right? Where do you tards get your medical info, you seem almost as bad as the cows in this thread
No. 2024052
>>2024032A deficiency of vitamin A doesn't really lead to much if you're not a baby or a toddler. Plus as an adult it's borderline impossible to be deficient.
Theoretically you can have vitamin A malabsorption and (very rarely) a deficiency if your liver has gone to shit. It can only be secondary to that, not vice versa.
One time megadoses of vitamin A are tried and true epidemiological approach in nations that experience childhood blindness from deficiency. You know, the ones golden rice was invented for. Fat 35 old Americans are not that demographic and never will be.
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No. 2024156
>>2024052It's nice that you can read WebMD and such. Back to the main point: like it's been shown many times in this thread alone, Ray Peat did not recommend that regular people supplement massive amounts of vitamin A. You can check any of his interviews, not out-of-context clips, where he talks about vitamin A. He always cautioned against excessive vitamin A.
The absurd fanfiction written in this thread, that the so-called Ray Peat Forum abruptly switched to a vitamin A detox forum in 2023 because many forum members started deteriorating in health due to an overdose of vitamin A is completely false. If you search the forum for threads created between 2012 and 2023 about vitamin A, only a tiny percentage of the results are related to megadosing vitamin A, or report personal experiences with hypervitaminosis A. Most of the threads are concerned with avoiding consuming too much vitamin A, potential positive and negative effects of vitamin A, interpretations of studies, etc.
If the person in this thread theorizing that the forum became a vitamin A detox forum after the members "fucked around with the one morbillion IU of retinol meme… losing a nice amount of hair, bone mineral density and sheets of skin" had any idea on what she was talking about, she'd know that most of the forum members were not taking huge amounts of vitamin A; that most members did not report symptoms of hypervitaminosis A; that Ray Peat never recommended regular people use huge amounts of vitamin A; and that the forum's switch to vitamin A detox, Grant Genereux's ideas and Garrett Smith was done unilaterally by the forum admin (Charlie)—who probably never read a single article written by Peat given his lack of understanding of Peat's ideas frequently demonstrated on his own forum—against the wishes of most of the forum members.
The actual process and reasons behind the forum's change to a vitamin A detox forum have been documented clearly in the linked video. The relevant parts start at 7:19 and 20:04. The change had nothing to do with an imagined mass overdosing of vitamin A by the forum members. The forum is still online. Anyone can see for themselves that what I wrote here about the forum is true by doing a few simple searches.
No. 2024186
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Our crunchy D’Angelo cows are in Joshua tree CA. Elaina is home in NJ after traveling with her brother and sister in law.
No. 2024188
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They’ve been bouncing from Airbnbs around the country. How the fuck can they afford this on one income.
No. 2024358
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No. 2024561
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1/2 holistic gooner cow is at it again
No. 2024562
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2/2 be sure to send your vaginas to her
No. 2024565
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/C9xMZhluykL/?igsh=YTIxYnptcGNzenF1 The raw by law coke heads from Florida are drinking raw camel milk.
No. 2024624
>>2024562I used to lurk the sex therapy and alt sex therapy side of instagram and it was crazy. This was a few years ago, but there were so many traumatized women, clusterbees and pickmes in that comm constantly doing the most dumb shit imaginable, then having breakdowns, then repeat, it was cow central kek.
What I realized as a pattern over time and seeing many women eventually blabbing about it, is that most of these female 'holistic' sex coaches and other sex cultists is that they are in an open relationship with a very predatory scrote and he is getting her to try and groom women for him to have sex with. It's an extremely shady part of the guruverse.
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I'm jealous ngl
No. 2025559
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/C-aV6cyOGt9/?igsh=cmdlZmhsOWZlYmZyAll the carnivore people seem to LOVE sugar. Guess they should eat more fucking fruit and maybe some veggies
No. 2025593
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Ah yes, the pregnancy hormone we need more of it instead of that filthy estrogen.
No. 2026157
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I wonder if she is binge eating behind the scenes because she posts all of these low calorie meals but has huge legs.
No. 2026222
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On the side of the bowl, there’s a fucking fly. It flies around in the story she posted @ballerinafarm.
No. 2026225
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Why is she dressed like this in her grandparents backyard? No sense of decency with this cow. Most of these holistic cows seem to LOVE dressing very sexual, even though a lot of them tout the whole “modesty” shit. And is it just me nonas or do her legs look warped here in the video?
No. 2026227
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Elaina shaking her ass for BLM awareness is fucking crazy. If you check her highlights on @laila_wolf_ some of her old herbal advice is up still. But a lot of it posts like this.
No. 2026263
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our honest and true celebrity Laila promoting goldenseal echinacea to “cure” her sinus infection. Herbal remedies I have nothing against but to constantly choose that over regular medicine that’s proven to help is kinda insane, and homeopathy is a scam. I had to dig through a bit of her god awful singing to find this.
No. 2026278
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Would Nara be considered a cow for this thread since her and her husband are Mormons and some bit crunchy and trad. Also how the hell did she get that skinny after pregnancy?
No. 2026298
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kek the photoshop and the filters make her look so uncanny.
No. 2026300
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Got curious and looked up Laila on Reddit. Other than moids being gross there’s some information about her on here.
No. 2026301
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people might’ve known her on there I’m assuming or they’ve figured out her mom takes her photos too.
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>>2026278pretty sure shes an anachan, the whole 'all natural made from scratch' stuff is really popular with orthorexics, she also used to model professionally and was pretty skelly picrel
No. 2026659
File: 1723822824619.jpeg (1.08 MB, 1179x2096, IMG_2956.jpeg)
I wonder if Ashley English will be the carnivore wannagreek’s true and honest and boyfriendfree girlfriend.
No. 2026661
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Everything he says he loves not providing any sources for his information or knowledge.
No. 2026662
File: 1723822906762.jpeg (1.16 MB, 1179x2095, IMG_2955.jpeg)
Lie detectors don’t work like that kek
No. 2026665
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She would be so beautiful if she didn’t have sunburn on her face. With all that raw milk she drinks how many parasites do you think she has?
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>>2026661This isnt true at all and can be debunked by the thousands of studies on ancient burials and skeletal remains. Yes some people lived to 60-80 years old but it was still rare.
No. 2026693
File: 1723829666406.jpeg (1.16 MB, 1179x2149, IMG_2961.jpeg)
Similar to the holistic gooner, this midwife/doula is just as insane.
>promotes orgasmic birth
>shames epidurals and claims it causes autism
>a lot of fellow cows on here get advice from this page and follow it as the truth.
No. 2026839
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Here’s a cow that majority of all the other cows follow and take medical advice from
>claims to have a masters degree and that she’s on par with being a doctor
>claims to have had a multitude of ailments and autoimmune disorders
>heavily anti vax
>claims to not be crunchy but cries when no one irl is like her
>pro unsafe home birth
>claims she healed all her issues herself with supplements and RLT
>shills every single thing she can
>has no real home, travels everywhere and stays at air bnbs, similar to the dangelo cow family.
>has new boyfriend, scrubbed all old posts of her last man.
>heavily photoshops and filters her appearance
Why do all of these cows have POTS, claim to have leaky gut, PCOS, mold poisoning, etc. it’s like the only few illnesses they bitch about.
No. 2026860
>>2026839Because a lot of symptoms are normal and people are use to doctors being wishy washy with diagnosis. Basically
"My heart beats really fast when I go up the stairs" = pots
"I didn't get pregnant on first try, I'm not 80 lbs and I have light facial hair in the correct lighting!" = PCOS
"Got the shits after Taco Bell"=leaky gut/IBS
"My drain looked weird and I had a headache once in a blue moon"= mold poisoning
No. 2026896
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>>2026278Ik there's certain African heritages that look anorexic skinny forever and I thought that was Nara but it doesn't seem to be the case, she maintained higher weights with exes then with lucky tries to stay as boney as possible between pregnancies
Also if she was born in 02 like she claims she would be like 12 in this pic cause this was 2014. Something tells me this isn't what a 12 yr old looks like
No. 2026987
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I have no words.
No. 2026988
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Ah yes, a supplement will 100% cure and help all celiacs.
No. 2027000
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Waving his steak around like sage in his Airbnb like a schizophrenic.
No. 2027025
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>>2013359She really is cow worthy nonita. Her response when people brought up there are dangers to promoting consumption of large doses of aspirin daily, which she's been doing:
> makes it about the guy having a small penis> makes it about how "hot" she isAlso not to blogpost, but I started looking into peat due to my own hypothyroidism. When you feel mainstream medicine hasn't helped you, with conditions like mine, PCOS or endometriosis (which is related to estrogen dominance) it makes sense to look for alternatives. So I don't blame peat followers who are, like another anon said, just looking to improve their own health through more natural or holistic ways. These cows take it too far with what they promote, sometimes to a dangerous degree, and most of them don't seem to have any medicinal background at all, or even in biology which Peat at least had. I think it's fine to be skeptical and critical of mainstream medicine, but you should be MORE skeptical of shills like this.
No. 2027057
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>>2027025This other holistic cow is on the aspirin train too. It’s confusing because a lot of them will say the avoid aspirin because “muh artificial colors and ingredients”.
No. 2027062
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Carnivore wannagreek posting random kids getting sunscreen sprayed on them is fucking weird. Why the hell as a grown man are you filming children not related to you?
No. 2027116
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I’m thinking Laila should be posted in the shoop threads because she’s been making herself look like those uncanny Jane doe police reconstructions 1/2.
No. 2027118
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2/2 the blurring that these cows do, even the holistic ones look uncanny. Empoweredautoimmue does similar shoop and filters.
No. 2027248
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>>2027118She looks like Founding Father and 2nd president of the United States, John Adams
No. 2027313
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Imagine you’re at the airport and you see this bitch eating raw meat in the seat next to you. Imagine the smell.
No. 2027425
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Nona’s, meet the “gross mom”.
>brags about being a filthy mom
>unschools her children
>cuts her own bangs like the BPD goths do
>brags about drinking her piss
>wants to work with her own feces but claims she can’t get herself there yet (she drank her urine for 4 weeks.).
>gives insane advice
>has enmeshment with her kids
No. 2027426
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welcome back John Adams!
No. 2027432
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This ruddy, thin-lipped potato head animalbasedtaste_ is one of the carnivore cows that I hate-watch. Her thin little lips and know-it-all attitude = a highly irritating combination. She claims to have lost 60 lbs from carnivore and healed her “insulin resistant PCOS.” Content includes her eating slimy meat and eggs for every meal, burnt bacon, pâte, huge chunks of butter… and trying to peddle a stupid guidebook about her dietary approach. Unlike many of the others, she seems pretty ignorant of anything Peat-y or related to functional medicine, naturopathic woo etc. Like many others, she rubs beef tallow on her face, though it’s more greasy-looking than glow-y because she’s extremely unfortunate looking. She’s only 20, the high cholesterol and early colon cancer will catch up with her later if she keeps this up
No. 2027438
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Does Melonie mac count? She's a carnivore and obsessed with Jesus. Also makes saying faggot her whole personality
https://x.com/meloniemac No. 2027450
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>>2027426Pardon my autism.
No. 2027486
>>2027450KEK. This is great
nonny.
No. 2027614
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She’s back at it again wearing skimpy outfits at my grandparents house and mommy Lisa is taking the photos. She’s “grounding” I guess.
No. 2027626
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The blurring that Lisa and Elaina use is crazy. Lisa hasn’t posted herself in years, Elaina posted her a few times. Lisa got hefty as shit though. All that organic food and avoiding seed oils and she’s still huge.
No. 2027628
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Most of Lisa’s page is just posting her daughter’s thirst traps that she took in mommy Lisa’s room. Or took at the grandparents house. I’ve looked into the grandparents due to them having shady businesses they claim their property on, they also have a yacht which is pretty much decaying. Elaina will sometimes post that she’s at the yacht but it’s in poor condition. The businesses that the grandparents claim is newborn photography, filming studio, etc. I guess that’s how they live tax free in that house. If you see a red room, that’s Lisa’s room Elaina’s bedroom is the pink one. Her YouTube videos that used to be up showed this, and that house with the red and pink room was a house separate from the grandparents.
No. 2027635
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Here’s Elaina’s website where she acts like she’s a celebrity. Lailawolf.com
She has her magazines on there but I think the links might be broken. It’s where she and her mom shill their anti vax and homeopathic medicine practices. Her brother Sam built the website as he did with Diana’s website.
No. 2027652
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Surprised these two haven't been posted, if they don't fit the thread I apologize.
>2bebetter podcast consisting of Chris and Khrys (goes by Peaches)
>masquerades as a trad couple that gives advice despite it being a veneer for their kink(her neck tat is his hand)
>arent actually married, got together while each were still married and while Chris' wife had cancer and was undergoing chemo
>Chris is a raging narc and Khrys is a pick-me, both constantly hate on women in their podcast, hypocrites with how they live their "lifestyle"
>had lauren the mortician and conservativeant on their podcast
>chris is apparently well known in the area he lives for being an asshole and terrible to work for as he owns/owned tattoo and gaming shops
>had a kink/suggestive portrait up of them both in their house with their kids around
many people like them for "having an alternative look but living the trad life" and talking about "accountability" despite never taking any.
No. 2027662
>>2027656Not particularly, iirc Chris hocks the Low-T grift. Peaches used to do "tinctures" and is mildly in to natural medicine but nothing crazy from what I've seen, why I wasn't sure. They are mostly trad/alt right grifters. Chris always tries to jump from grift to grift for money but their main content is trad relationship with a bit of politics.
They did just get a "guard" dog that's trained to attack and are trying to pass it off as a service dog as well because they buy in to the human traffiking type paranoia. Also have some weird trip to Thailand with their followers coming soon.
(sage your shit) No. 2027678
>>2027662Like all cows on this thread, let’s see if they’ll start drinking raw milk. I can’t remember which cow recently posted a raw milk ice cream recipe but I’ll try to find it. Listeria swirl and tuberculosis crunch sounds delectable!
And for the low T, let’s see if he’s going to do a liver king shill.
No. 2027766
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She’s just a dancer in the background for one episode Kek. She thinks she actually did something there and that she’s a real celebrity.
No. 2028091
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She’s bragging that her 6 year old son can’t read.
No. 2028094
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Miss gross mom is planning her orgasmic birth
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C970XeEO5Ha/?igsh=aDllbmUzNW44emw3I hope her kids get taken by CPS.
No. 2028096
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Most of her page is talking incoherent nonsense, how she loves diarrhea and shit (I am not joking), how she loves birth and cumming, drinking piss, her kids are illiterate, she started a cult, etc.
No. 2028147
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Skin cancer has entered the chat plus all these cows seem to hate their natural skin tone, they want it darker. So much for body positivity
No. 2028148
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No, I do not want to look like them
No. 2028149
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She looked better before
No. 2028221
>>2028096Can you post some of her weirdness about shit and diarrhea? What is she on about with that?
I only randomly ran into her when some Youtuber made a video about unschooling moms on TikTok and she was among those influencers.
No. 2028360
>>2028091Not the bpd tattoos kek
I know someone who married a 50 year old American dude and now she’s starving herself and drinking her own pee. Does she count?
No. 2028808
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Nonnas if you’re not having cervical orgasms you’re not living kek
No. 2028987
>>2028808all female orgasms are cervical by nature she's a fucking tard
its as meaningless as saying 'anal orgasms' or 'uterine orgasms' since the anus and uterus also contract during climax
that still doesnt mean women can come from anal or uterine stimulation which on its own is usually unpleasant ofc
secondly this particular concept cervical orgasms were invented by moids as an excuse to have painful sadistic cervix bashing sex with us which most women will confirm is unpleasant and horrible
(sage your shit) No. 2028993
>>2028966this. its strange how the clit is always ignored by these weird sex cultists even though thats the most pleasurable and orgasm inducing part of the vulva for women.
instead, these losers rhetoric is always about penetration and penile stimulation of the cervix, anus or vaginal walls by a penis or dildo aka phallocentric pleasure, and unsurprisingly most women cant even come from that.
or they sperg about childbirth orgasms which also requires a male to impregnate the woman in the first place.
all this bullshit just serves to make female sexual pleasure male-centric and phallocentric which is gross.
its actually disgustingly sexist, and likely politically motivated/troon adjacent too since trannies dont have clitorises and our clits are way more pleasurable, sensitive and intense compared to male genitalia (we have 10,000 nerve endings, moids only have 4000) it's possible these women have never had a real clitoral orgasm either which is why they are mistaking painful cervical spasms and the resulting out of body type shock as 'orgasms'
>nooooooo your perfectly pleasurable and natural and intense clitoral orgasm isnt good enough>you HAVE to violently assault your cervix with a dildo or penis, otherwise you arent experiencing true pleasure!fuck that shit
No. 2029030
>>2029008These 'people' just really hate women. God forbid women attain orgasm without needing a phallus or shoving a phallus shaped object inside herself to do it. Shows how lousey PIV is that 75% of women dont come from it.
>>2029019It's exactly this, male fear of obsolecence. Never underestimate how angry it makes men to know that women are orgasming without the help of a penis. It's part of why many moids refuse to believe that female orgasms even exist and have revenge fantasies about cutting out clitorises off. Knowing we have a button that was created purely for flooding our bodies with amazing orgasms makes them seethe.
No. 2029237
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old milk but it’s still funny, I love it when cows think they’re on to something bc “vaccines bad” 1/3
No. 2029241
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2/3
No. 2029242
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3/3.
No. 2029245
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Saged for older milk but this is too fucking funny kek. Her grandmother also posted on this post.
No. 2029249
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Elaine is her grandmother, her mom Lisa’s mother. This entire family is stupid and insane.
No. 2029257
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More proof of Elaina promoting shit that makes you turn blue. Instead this time she snorts it like her true and honest goddess, ali.
No. 2029420
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@mama_wilder is another milky holistic anti vax cow. Her story is sad as she did leave being a trad wife due to her husband being abusive, but that doesn’t absolve her from being on the woowoo train.
No. 2029489
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>> raw vegan “health coach”
>> immigrant in USA, has an age gap husband
>> husband makes money by hosting “holistic health seminars” to vulnerable people
>> used to call herself plasma goddess and drink her own urine
No. 2029490
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>>2029489Unsurprisingly she is a boy mom now. Poor child came out skinny and malnourished.
No. 2029492
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>>2029489This is the husband..
No. 2029622
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Megha once again defending this take that men shouldn’t change diapers. What is this trend with tradwives marrying old, homosexual looking men and then obsessively trying to prove their husband’s masculinity? If she hadn’t chosen a man who looked like a butch lesbian she wouldn’t have to aggressively prevent him from doing anything remotely feminine. I think her next baby is due between December and February so she’s going to struggle massively if her husband still refuses to offer any help.
No. 2029639
>>2029622THANK ALLAH, JESUS, VISHNU, ODIN ,HORUS AND YAHWEH that women can choose to be childfree in todays time and age.
Can't think of anything worst than fucking up your body, health, sleep and freedom so some worthless scrote gets to spread his shitty genes, sleep well plus advance his career earning more money from Mr. Shekels while all you get is a 10 year gap in your resume and a reduced life span.
No. 2029838
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POV: the tapeworms are talking
No. 2029851
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>>2029489Giving pseudo science based health advice to vulnerable people with chronic health issues
No. 2029856
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>>2029492 age gap husband
No. 2030128
>>2029622She already admitted that initially, her husband was supposed to wake up in the night and change the baby/tend to her when she cries. Then after a couple tries, her husband got bored and told her he wasnt gonna do it anymore. She's coping and seething because her husband wants fuck-all to do with their daughter, that's the real story here.
Megha also admitted she can't cope and so uses a nanny/maid for the grand total of their 1 child and they order takeout all the time instead of her cooking for them. Her and her dyke husband are just lazy millennial larpers, all there is to it.
Also interesting how they tried for baby 2 so soon after the first was born, too. Makes it seem like the tinfoils about her husband hating daughters and not wanting anything to do with them seem more legit, looks like he wants a son now.
No. 2030145
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>>2029856When the only orgasm you can hope for is during childbirth.
No. 2030306
>>2030293If you're endorsing a "trad" lifestyle of getting married and popping out babies as young as possible, you're probably way too exhausted and bitter to post videos about it on Tiktok. Having lots of children ages you as well so you won't attract views from horny men or young women who think you're aspirational.
As much as these folks love to crow about the sad middle-aged single women and their cats, ths average 40 y/o single career girl is going to be a lot more glamourous and attractive looking than a trad woman her age who's been running a household and popping out babies for her ungrateful husband for two decades
No. 2030431
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>>2030306>ths average 40 y/o single career girl is going to be a lot more glamourous and attractive looking than a trad woman her age who's been running a household and popping out babies for her ungrateful husband for two decadesYou can say that again kek
No. 2030898
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>>2030293Coomer content pays when it comes to right wing moids, they're all horny porn addicts and simps. Remember when Lauren Southern tried to appeal to right wing men by acting virgin and Christian and obsessed with marriage, and they ended up all thirsting over her sister Jess instead, who is a pink haired pot smoking lefty hippie raver thot. Turns out men don't give a fuck about 'pure' or 'trad' boring women. They just care about ass.
No. 2030909
>>2030620>>2030530The "you'll die alone" scare tactic is nothing but projection by men,
they're the ones afraid of dying alone, they can't socialize with each other so their wives are the only form of deep connection they have. Now that women don't have to rely on men 24/7 like it's Saudi Arabia inceloids are shooting up everywhere.
No. 2030914
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>>2030909Of course its scare tactics lol, old men are ropeing at unprecedented levels while old women are chilling and playing bingo.
You're right, men cant hang out with each other without constantly trying to one-up each other and compete, and eventually they always fall out and get sick of each other (which is why boomer moids usually have no friends while boomer women still have an active social life). My grandma spends way more time with her friends than her husband.
No. 2031127
>>2030898Reminds me of Megha calling other women whores and sperging about the importance of elegance/modesty for women, meanwhile her husband was sliding into gyrating tiktok thots DMs before settling for Megha because she was the only woman desperate enough to reply to his creepy offer of having a stranger escort her around Oxford.
These trad women are so stupid and annoying, not least for the fact that they claim to understand how men operate and think, yet miss the mark everytime. No wonder they always end up single mothers or literal cuckqueans after a few years.
No. 2032693
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If you told me Elaina was a troon I wouldn’t doubt it. She truly does look like John Adams.
No. 2032695
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Ashley english 100% has worms. The worms are clearly telling her to eat this shit.
No. 2032712
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Cow meet up, Nara and Hannah met on ballerina farm.
No. 2033069
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Our black trad wife is at it again kek
No. 2033506
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Meth stare.
No. 2033508
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1/2 her grocery store trip with her husband, Hannah called a “date”
No. 2033510
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2/2 if this was my date night, I’d be miserable.
No. 2033818
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Ashley English I have had enough with your disgusting behavior
No. 2033945
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Birdie wood is going on another adventure with her children and she’s back in America, she’s pregnant with a baby boy. I can only wonder how her family must feel that she got pregnant by a random moroccan man she met online. I used to think this cow was less messy than Alice but I guess not.
No. 2033962
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anyone know Duru Bilimlier? she deserves her own thread. she’s an influencer who is known for promoting a carnivore diet. she has a whole ebook where she just spews nonsense and pseudoscience.
No. 2033964
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>>2033962some more dudu 💀
(emoji) No. 2034019
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Megha seethes and envies white women because she looks like a rapey Taliban moid in a wig.(racebaiting)
No. 2034024
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>>2034014This might be it?
>he tried to tend to the baby at first but quit when he realized he was useless at itSo basically it wasn't her idea and he simply stopped caring enough to help her, now excuses her husband's weaponized incompetence and lack of interest in their child because he's too 'masculine' for caring about his daughter kek
>my husband is so great because he constantly palms me off onto other people (my family, hospital staff, hotel staff, deliveroo drivers, maids) so he wont have to actually do anything for me or our child, everBased retard Smegma, being played like a fiddle by a moid who only wanted to rent her womb and knew she wouldnt kick up a fuss about being left on her own to do it
No. 2034028
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1/2 wannagreek cow has a dating app?
No. 2034031
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2/2 I just know majority of these relationships are formed under mutual psychosis and parasites.
No. 2034035
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He’s back to showing off his asshole to the world how beautiful. I just don’t understand if he believes in acting like an animal why do this? I’ve never heard of apes showing their asshole to the sun in front of people on a trail.
No. 2034037
>>2034019Knowing Megha she would probably take this as a compliment (being mistaken for Arab instead of Indian)
>>2034034Nobody hates brown people more than Megha kek she's very open about it.
No. 2034105
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crunchy people swear up and down they look healthy kek
No. 2034337
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I hope you nonnas didn’t forget about the holistic grooner! She has a guide on how to achieve her orgasms
https://www.instagram.com/reel/ChLHs6yKxZf/?igsh=MXVxY214bThxZjdjcQ== No. 2034339
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I have no words
No. 2034461
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Where is her shitty holistic film? Claims to have been in filming since 2020, almost 2025 now and she hasn’t posted any movies. Her holistic magazine is still down btw.
No. 2035152
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Saged since I don’t know if she fits here currently. Unfortunately this girl is clearly orthorexic and is extremely crunchy. She has a lot of cow behaviors such as arguing with doctors, dietitians and nutritionists. She constantly fear mongers about ingredients and aspires to be a trad wife. I really do hope she changes her mind before her pre frontal cortex fully develops. I believe she is 17 as of right now.
No. 2035154
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Here’s an example of her cowish behavior, she constantly engages with her haters and anyone concerned for her health.
No. 2035208
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Another black trad wife who lives on a cotton plantation, brags about picking cotton with her white husband. You can’t make this shit up.
No. 2035216
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Do you think these women didn’t get a great education?
No. 2035383
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saged for potential tinfoiling but this is giving off Tamla Horsford murder case energy
No. 2035435
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New right wing argument just dropped: seasoning your food is apparently bad now because non-white people do it. Dried herbs and salt apparently equal dirt on the ground.
No. 2035440
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>>2035435They look down on food from other cultures, meanwhile this is what they eat.
No. 2035750
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I don’t have time to unpack this
No. 2035751
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1/3 black trad wives are seemingly more into race play than white trad wives
No. 2035752
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2/3
No. 2035753
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3/3 letting her kids play with raw flour. Fucking disgusting.
No. 2036047
>>2035435I really hate how those idiots erasing history. Food culture is so diverse and rich in Europe. Like whiteness, white food doesn't exist, as if pumpkin spice wasn't one of the most loved flavours in the USA.
>>2035753Most people still don't know that flour should be cooked if they want to use it "raw". I hope she did and those kids don't get salmonella.
No. 2036238
>>2036178Don't bother trying to explain it to them
nonnie. It's the sort of thing only other black women see but i get what you mean. Western Trad leaning women already have the tendency to adopt white supremacist mindsets so being the only black trad woman in that sort of friend group would be a giant red flag to any black woman with self respect, even if she's into the trad lifestyle herself. I don't think they're planning on killing her but i do think she's the designated lower tier "ugly"
(i don't think she's ugly but if you're dedicated to eurocentric beauty standards you might think so) friend they keep around to boost their self esteem. Its just an extra layer of cringe.
No. 2036271
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So her movies might be coming out soon or at least a trailer? Also weird how all her accounts always comment on their own posts.
No. 2036272
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The rest of the traveling D’Angelo family is now landed in Portland Oregon instead of living out their California dream kek. I wonder how they plan to get to Europe when their kids don’t have any formal ID paperwork.
No. 2036274
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Wannagreek cow is back at it again with “sageing” his new Airbnb with meat. Carnivores are the new vegans.
No. 2036275
>>2036272you know what?
as a fellow portlandfag, i kind of hope that this whole tradwave continues to wrap around Portland and Seattle because i’ve really not enjoyed the last decade and how everything has been about being a troon or being gay. i’m ready for things to shift, personally kek
No. 2036276
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I just know his dating app thing will eventually turn into a cult.
No. 2036520
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Even when it’s not aggressive shoop, she doesn’t have an ass kek. The fact John Adams has been shooping an ass on herself lately is very funny.
No. 2036536
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Wannagreek thinks ancient medicine is best medicine still lmfao. I can’t wait for him to get severe parasites and try to use ancestral medicine to “heal” himself.
No. 2036540
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Why do immigrant and black trad wives marry the ugliest scrotes known to man?
No. 2036542
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Don’t think it’s been posted here yet but this is how the crunchy mother and daughter duo actually look. Fucking bleak.
Also how the fuck do you eat all “organic” and “natural” and still get that fat? They have a gym in their living room they boast about constantly.
No. 2036561
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Are black trad wives unable to believe that abuse is real?
No. 2036582
>>2036536If the ancients understood the body so much better how come none of them recommended butthole sunning or all-meat diets?
While I certainly don't recommend taking millennia-old medical advice, there's absolutely no historical basis for any of their bullshit. Their "ancient wisdom" is fully a product of the internet age.
No. 2036596
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Does this cow lurk or do people call her out for wearing European blonde wigs kek
No. 2036597
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Parasitic worm lead stare. Shilajit can contain high traces of lead.
No. 2036598
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Why do these crunchy cows take so many odd vitamins and supplements that can do more harm than good? Just fucking eat fruit and vegetables and meat here and there and drink water.
No. 2036600
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Today the holistic grooner is preaching about squirting. She believes you can squirt from your cervix.
No. 2036603
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Apparently quantum leaping has been a huge trend recently in the crunchy community.
No. 2036646
>>2036598It's elitism and a form of orthorexia. The same way ana cows compete against each other in terms of purging and restricting, holistic cows compete in terms of who is most 'woke' with obscure and whacky supplements. What's funny is none of these cows look any younger or healthier for it. Most of them look older than '
toxic' influencers who ingest endless fast food and chemical slop.
Shilajit is just rock ooze, it's actually very rare to find the real stuff, most shilajit on the market is fake crude oil crap and comes from scam companies in Russia and India who know retarded westerners will pay top dollar for it.
>>2036600This woman has never had an orgasm in her life. Everything she writes makes her sound like a 13 year old wattpad girl with no sexual experience describing gay prostate milking sex in her yaoi fanfic, complete with all kinds of anatomical inaccuracies.
No. 2036659
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The Florida carnivore cokeheads @carnivoreishh now make sunblock beef tallow and Shiljit.
No. 2037036
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listeria, parasites, tuberculosis, mad cow disease, worms, developing IBD.
No. 2037196
>>2037036kek, these posts that carnivorefags make really do seem to say more about them than the world at large. assuming that your "ancestors" were fortunate enough to eat the same massive quantities of steak and butter as you (especially when times were really rough, and they often were) just comes off as sheltered. the all year round abundance of animal products we have today is really a modern thing. if he really wanted to be authentic he should probably also be eating plenty of root vegetables and foraging wild berries and mushrooms, alongside the butter and milk. even oat milk and other plant milks have their roots in history, the traditions were just forgotten (they're fairly easy to make at home too). plenty of people also still live in villages, i doubt people like this would last a week without the conveniences of their self-centered city life though.
>foot prisonsi fucking can't
No. 2037227
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What a fat bitch
No. 2037392
>>2028149>>2037227These posts are so stupid, she actually is milky
>>2027025 but you want to focus on her appearance and call her fat when she obviously isn't. She's a pseud who irresponsibly shares dangerous misinformation and all her info is copied from other sources, yet you're bitching about her looks.
No. 2037395
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Ashley English wrote a book, who’s willing to read her schizophrenic ramblings?
No. 2037541
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Don't we have an Andrew Tate thread here?
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13879089/How-Andrew-Tates-father-shaped-toxic-character.html
>Every single thing around us was built on the back of children getting hit when they made a mistake. We built the pyramids. We went to the moon. We built all of civilised society. The real world does the same thing. If you make too big a mistake, if you are too loud and too obnoxious, you’re too disrespectful, you’re going to get hit. So, I don’t think there’s anything wrong with a child learning that lesson early – that there are authoritative figures in your life.>‘The bottom line of punishments always comes back to violence. It’s the standard on 99 per cent of the planet still today. It’s the standard even in the West, in most places: you f* with your parents too much, you get a smack.>Tate had nothing but praise for how he was brought up. ‘I was raised perfectly. I could not have hoped for a better father. He was an exceptional individual, so having an exceptional father made me an exceptional man. Exceptionalism was always a subject we discussed at the dinner table.> Tate told us to beat ourselves up about our insecurities. We are lazy. We need to work harder. Otherwise, other men will outperform us and women won’t love us. He told his followers about losing a chess tournament aged seven, and his dad’s anger. ‘I said, “But I was tired, Dad.” He said, “You don’t make excuses.” For the next week and a half he kept me up to three, four in the morning playing grandmaster chess puzzles from a book. I’d sleep two hours, get up, go to school. My mum would go crazy: “Let him sleep, Emory!” And he’d say, “Quiet, woman. Chess, chess, chess, chess.” I’d be sitting there trying to keep my eyes open, trying to complete the chess puzzle. And after day five, I finally worked one out and he said, “See, you’re tired, but you did it.” You have to perform.’>Keen to delve further into the Tate family, we managed to track down one of Andrew’s cousins. She told us that his number one desire was to be famous.>Of his father she said: ‘He was this high-IQ individual who had not mastered the day-to-day tools it takes to live a quality life. So, he would always be dressed like a bum and not shower. But my mother really enjoyed his company because he was so eccentric.’ That eccentricity went so far as to claim he was a spy. ‘He spoke Russian fluently. He spent a lot of time there. He told my mother a crazy tale of being electrocuted on an escalator in an attempt on his life. He showed her the mark on him.’>He explained that his father was discharged from the military after he was diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder. No. 2037546
>>2037541>We need to work harder. Otherwise, other men will outperform us>And he’d say, “Quiet, woman. Chess, chess, chess, chess.”>‘He was this high-IQ individual who had not mastered the day-to-day tools it takes to live a quality life. Sounds hilarious. Imagine thinking life depends on little plastic checker pieces being arranged strategically kek moids are gay and desperate to impress other moids. Imagine thinking intelligence is based on your ability to move little checker pieces better than another moid. I suppose its a waste of time having a STEM education or becoming a skilled artist or volunteering and helping others because little plastic pieces need to be moved on checker boards and competed over. Narc autist moids living in delusional echo chambers are entertaining.
>He explained that his father was discharged from the military after he was diagnosed with narcissistic personality disorder.Big shocker there
No. 2037904
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How does this cow meet these people? Also fucking crazy eyes.
No. 2037924
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>>2037904She doesn't. Demi Moore famously has long black hair and an esthetician.
No. 2037927
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Disturbing
No. 2037930
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>>2037904Demi Moore a few days ago. Who the fuck is that random woman
No. 2038010
>>2037982Yes she has been posting this photo on all of her social medias saying this is Demi moore.
This is why Elaina could have her own thread, she’s done this before claiming she knows Johnny depp and rhianna.
No. 2038023
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KEK SHES BRAGGING ABOUT MEETING DEMI MOORE
That woman in the photo looks so fucking confused
No. 2038095
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I hope troons follow her goon advice
No. 2038249
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Her own mother is in on the shared delusion. Lisa and Elaina are crazy for thinking this is demi Moore and bragging about it online.
No. 2038401
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>>2038256My honest guess is they believe this is Demi moore based on how much they are bragging about it. Elaina fully believes she’s famous because she knows that Italian guy and was started in in his show in the background of gravesend. She was in the movie bunny man and she played a prostitute but that movie never gained much traction. Her mom constantly brags that Elaina has ghost written all of rhiannas songs and ghost written movies for Netflix and Hulu. They most likely saw this woman and thought “that looks like Demi moore!” Went up and asked to take a picture, in the photo that woman looks uncomfortable. Here’s her acting reel, scroll down and you’ll find it
https://www.backstage.com/u/laila-wolf/ No. 2038430
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She has her own “photographers” posting this image off as her meeting and being friends with Demi moore. Either her photographer is her mother or she’s actually delusional.
No. 2038433
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I can’t imagine the amount of larping that you’re a model, just to have photos and makeup like this.
And this “photographer” she has credited on her website as a legitimate photographer.
No. 2038435
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Only troons and desperate housewives could believe this shit
No. 2038436
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KEK
No. 2038809
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I came across this completely insane ig profile today
>raw diet
>the typical aryan/racist dogwhistles
>conspiracies
>such norse. much pagan
>the posts of him eating are always seemingly as gross as possible
>28k+ followers somehow
No. 2038811
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>>2038809example of the typical fasho dogwhistle content he posts
No. 2038812
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>>2038809more insane yaps
No. 2038814
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>>2038809>retvrnah yes our trve viking over here!
also seemingly a barefoot person. depending on where he lives, combined with all the raw meat, he has to be a worm temple at this point
No. 2038817
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>>2038809also shares an account (left) with an (irl) friend of his (right) who is the same kind of insane
No. 2038847
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>>2038809if you go through his story highlights, you can find a lot of insane shit (ecspecially the first one…)
drinking raw eggs, eating full raw animal hearts, advocating for having parasites (not kidding), the sunlight healing bs, ultra-trad family shit like not using contraception and so on, believing in magic and thinking mythology is real… but the most insane thing is picrel. spoilered for anyone who does not want to see LITERAL infants eat raw meat. and that dude is advocating for it.
No. 2038856
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>>2038847>beef with butterY’know it’s funny, I’m ethnically Mongolian and we feed our kids similar foods from a young age aka red meat and animal fats. There’s a reason we have one of the worst heart disease rates in the world, no coincidence.
No. 2038907
>>2038892Oh, I didn't know that. Any more info about this?
I only know Sverige from this insane video (funny that he was originally vegan). This guy actually seems very dangerous (he already stabbed several people, admitted to molesting someone, not to mention his insane beliefs and lifestyle…. he literally fetishizes cannibalism). What is that woman thinking, raising a daughter with him?! That legitimately pisses me off.
Is the ex that he attacked with acid the one that supposedly sexually abused their son and "he had no reason to stop it" (ugh)? It's mentioned at the end of the video. I also can't understand how a person wanted by INTERPOL still has an active Youtube channel?
No. 2038979
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Another trad cath cow
https://www.instagram.com/reel/C-Iprg0unNN/?igsh=ZnB1NGMxMXJ5dTY0She suns her vagina in the video btw and eats raw meat.
No. 2039058
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>>2038892All scrotes get the hairline they deserve.
Amazing how all these raw meat fags are skinnyfat, bald, look gaunt and 50 etc.
No. 2039061
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>>2038892It's so funny she calls her natural, grown out hair 'dirty blonde' when it's very clearly medium to dark brown. Why is the 'natural blond' insecurity so strong with these nazi larpers? Next they'll be calling tree bark and poop 'dark blonde' instead of brown.
No. 2039063
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Totally a natty 'dark blonde' you guys! Complete with very trad nose job and retvrn to natvre cheek fillers.
(The ends of the hair are bleached growout by her own admission btw, so it doesnt count)
No. 2039067
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Even in direct sunlight you can see her hair is brown with greys. She's a dumpy plastic surgery addict pickme caked in makeup, surrounded by skinnyfat breadstick armed incels and her severely balding husband with a durag on to cover his shame. Great ads for the red meat lifestyle btw.
No. 2039071
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Also wtf is this side profile kek.
No. 2039077
>>2038991Extreme lefties and nazis are just different sides of the same insufferable schizo coin, we dont need a separate thread for them I don't think.
It's weird because the raw holistic living movement used to be almost exclusively leftist, then nazis latched onto it recently.
I remember anti vaxx moms from kindergarten in the 90s, but they were all radical leftist hippies. They dressed their kids in hand me downs or tie dye homemade stuff, let their boys grow their blond hair long, insisted on only raw and natural organic food, had a bunch of conspiracy theories about the government trying to kill everyone with pesticides etc.
It's really strange seeing nazis hop on this trend 30 years later. Political horseshoe theory is real.
>>2039000He's said many creepy things about impregnating teenage girls but it's funny he had kids with a woman who is in her mid 30s. His wife should be careful he's definitely a groomer but she's choosing to be a retarded pickme cuckquean so it's her funeral. Doesn't even have 'I'm a dumb blonde' as an excuse since she's brunette!
No. 2039087
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He has really bad genes. Skinny ectomorph on roids with bird bones and skinny ankles and wrists, buck teeth, narrow and elongated soft feminine jawline, long horsey face with no fat pads or muscle, downturned beady eyes, gigantic elevenhead, big crooked nose, severely balding and hairline starts at the top of his head, looks like a gaunt old ghoul basically or a creepy MTF.
He makes fun of women's large hairlines all the time while looking like that, the audacity. It's always the people who are most insecure about their natural features who become obsessed with diet theory and lookism.
No. 2039088
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At least he got a tan and a hairline transplant in Turkey so he looks like a twink haggot instead of an even more subhuman Baltic version of Asmongold.
No. 2039125
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Already talking about parentifying her daughters for her newborn son coming soon, while her daughters hear her in the background.
No. 2039146
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“Classic Tradwife” fake profile pic vs real face. Why the self-proclaimed ‘elegant, skinny, feminine’ e-gorls actually 3/10 femcel physiognomy copers who settled for shallow uglier men IRL?
>Not a natural redhead
>No curls too
>Obviously a fatty, chipmunk cheeks
>Asymmetrical face and slanted jawline
>No sharp greek nose, tip bulbous, shaft width too huge
>Peep that subtle nose-ring
>Hoop earrings
>Huge forehead
>Dress too low-cut
Her husband must be serial cheating on her, no way looks-based redpill men could solely adore this.
No. 2039168
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Here’s another one. Self-proclaimed antifem who likes making snide tweets on “younger women today” and excusing men’s bad behaviour via “differences and nature”.
>2/10 femcel-looking asshat
>Non-white
>Married late (may not even be 1st hubby)
>Short and fat, even after pregnancy
>Bad hairstyling, always
>Blocky rectangular face, how masculine
>Glasses, four eyes
>Insipid eyes, no outstanding shape
>Short big nose
>thin-lipped mouth
>too much chin ratio cuz nose and mouth too close together
>no cheekbones
>Jawline looks squarish and unappealing
Ugh, seems to be an epidemic of terminally ugly gorls (who had to choose promise of total submission as their looks can’t be leveraged as a bargaining chip) trying to larp being a tradwife is “special” and they should be treated like Martha Stewart esque celeb wives by their uglier orbiters.
No. 2039181
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Got any milk on this cretin who AI genned her pp pic too?(sage your shit)
No. 2039283
>>2039263No, more along the lines of trying to abolish what they call “the legalistic liberal, big daddy government, individualistic cutthroat state” but replace it with their own individualistic, legalistic, cutthroat state but make it militaristic and much more male-mindset aligned.
It’s already happening, the ‘barbaric right’ influencers on twitter are hinting on about how they will hoard wealth and power if they made it as top 20% men, how they want to crush rival bloodlines and start family feuds (even the tradwives also believe in familial feuds kek), only the best for their children and not to “community” or “the village”, polygyny, physical discipline and labour for their underage kids, so it’s no different, really.
No. 2039351
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Did birdie move to the east coast? How the fuck does she get so much money to move from America to Europe then Africa then Asia then back to America.
No. 2039581
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@she_is_of_the_woods on Instagram and YouTube. Herbalist who loves the Ray Peat and WAPF way of eating. Believes you should sleep on grounding sheets and drink raw goats milk. Gained a shit ton of weight but claims it is because shes healthy now. Made enough money to buy a really nice home from selling her Indian grandmother's herbal remedies online, now only sells powered herbal supplements.
No. 2039582
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>>2039581She has the most outrageous ideas on how to "cure" common ailments. My favorite is that if you're celiac, you probably have a MTHR mutation and once you take fancy B vitamins you can eat gluten again.