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No. 1993065
Thread for the general discussion of people who use and abuse animals to gain internet clout on social media. Some of the more infamous ones include (but not limited to);
Save A Fox AKA Mikayla Raines
>Runs non-profit fox sanctuary>Supposedly against fur farming, but buys nearly all of their foxes from fur farms>Purposefully imprints on wild animals she intends to rehab>Co-habs different species which has led to injury>Has had multiple preventable/questionable animal deaths, and many escapes>Lets infants interact with wild animals>Hard to keep track, I think they have around 50 animals, at least 20+ foxes>plans to get 500 foxes from a fur farm starting Nov 2023>Registered as a fur farm to get around pesky laws interfering with keeping animals like foxes, minks, etc as pets>Bred black backed jackals then took them away from the parents to be hand raised to keep one as a pet>Has an OnlyFans where she uses her exotics as props for photosFacebook:
https://www.facebook.com/SaveAFoxRescueInstagram:
https://www.instagram.com/saveafox_rescueTikTok:
https://www.tiktok.com/@saveafox.corporation?lang=enYoutube:
https://www.youtube.com/@SaveAFoxWebsite:
https://www.saveafox.org/ Spreadsheet:
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1nYNlF9c6ex44nJJSuZ60RV58o4A3UiuMciM4l1IDQz0/edit#gid=0NaturePunk AKA Sarah Bartell
>Known for vulture culture work and etsy store>Bought a wolfdog for 'educational purposes' in 2015>Started non-profit Pack West Wolfdog Rescue, which misused donations to buy personal wolfdog and a personal truck>A couple of wolves died that could have been prevented; one housed unsupervised with other wolfdogs, another supposedly killed by wild animals in the night>one adult and one child were bit, the animals did not have vaccine records in at least one case and Sarah told the person to lie to authorities about the bite.>When the non-profit dissolved, Sarah continued to receive donations>She has since abandoned a lot of her previous handles to distance herself from the scandal>Appeared on Naked And Afraid 3x, was a bitch each time and was one of the most disliked contestants.>Now mainly posts photoshoots of her wolfdogs, being a transgender asexual, and how she's a 'survivalist' and living off-gridFacebook:
https://www.facebook.com/sarahbartell1TikTok:
https://www.tiktok.com/@sarah_goes_feralWebsite:
https://wildhearthomestead.weebly.com/Juniper Foxx AKA Jessika Coker
>Owns a 'Micro-Sanctuary' aka please donate so I can keep exotic pets>Glorifies keeping wild animals as pets>Works closely with Save A Fox>Allows toddlers to play with rabies vector animals>Has around 20 permanent animals, including foxes, raccoons, opossums, chinchillas, skunks, sugar gliders, a few dogs, and some reptiles>Cohabs animals that could easily kill each other and allows free-roaming the house>Cohabs foxes that do not get along, causing fights and unease, even with sick foxes>Purchases animals from unscrupulous breeders to 'save' them, funding the breedersTikTok:
https://www.tiktok.com/@juniperfoxxYoutube:
https://www.youtube.com/c/juniperfoxWebsite:
https://www.juniperfoxx.com/Kinkatopia AKA Alexandra Ashe Driebelbis
>Kinkajous for me, but not for thee!>Has a non-profit sanctuary housing about a dozen kinkajous>Personal pets include Genets, an Owl Monkies, a few cats including a Lykoi, sphynx, and an outdoor cat she lets have kittens yearly>Allows dangerous interactions, including the predator Genet with the kinkajous and both kinkajous and Genet meeting a terrified feral cat>Lets invasive iguanas occupy kinkajou enclosures that could easily injure them>Feeds kinkajous candy daily, including CBD gummies, there are no studies that suggest this is OK as part of a daily kinkajou dietFacebook:
https://www.facebook.com/kinkatopia/Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/kinkatopiaTikTok:
https://www.tiktok.com/@kinkatopiaYoutube:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8yqkGAyVnppHRPQu51mVwQWebsite:
https://www.kinkatopia.org/Landon Scherr
>Zoo Keeper at Doc Antle's zoo (from Tiger King)>Free handles big cats, adult chimps, wolves, even actual adult wild animals>Dangerous cross-species interactions (chimp/dog, chimp/big cat, big cat/dog, etc etc)>Participates and promotes cub petting>feeds Gatorade to chimps>Has been caught faking rescue videos, most notably one video where you can see him push an arrow into a live iguana's skull>also breeds dogs, I'm sure that's done thoughtfullyInstagram:
https://www.instagram.com/landonscherr/Tik Tok:
https://www.tiktok.com/@landonscherrYoutube:
https://www.youtube.com/@landonscherr/videosFacebook:
https://www.facebook.com/p/Landon-Scherr-Animals-100067452289451/Jacob Feder
>Well-known for clickbait video titles usually involving dead, dying, or injured animals>Will use corpses of animals to drum up a storyline, it's so fucking weird you'll just have to see for yourself>Has been caught faking 'rescue' videos, releasing invasive snakes to catch and kill on camera>Does a dubious (at best) surgery on the iguana Landon stuck a spear in, including unnecessary sawing off the spear and taking the spear head out of the iguana to replace it with ANOTHER spear head.>Does the whole interacting with big cats/chimps/hyenas, mishandling, yeah you know the drillFacebook:
https://www.facebook.com/jacobbfeder/Instagram:
https://www.instagram.com/jacobfeder_/TikTok:
https://www.tiktok.com/@jacobfeder?lang=enYoutube:
https://www.youtube.com/c/JacobFederWebsite:
https://jacobfeder.com/When linking to videos, if you don't want the creator to receive views, use a third party software. Views is how they become more popular and profit off of animal abuse.
TikTok: proxitok.esmailelbob.xyz
Youtube:
https://invidious.nerdvpn.de/ No. 1993077
>>1993065You made me remember the drama with Hope for Paws (
https://www.youtube.com/@hopeforpaws). He rescued a dog that was missing and rather than giving it back to the owners, he refused to give him back "because they're neglects". It was under social media pressure that they had to give the dog back.
I'm still trying to find that video.
No. 1993247
Never knew Mikayla had an onlyfans, what a cow. I liked looking at her channel but over time I started being suspicious because of all the accidents, her unprofessional way of interacting with wild animals (keeping a desert fox, a jackal, red foxes, cats and dogs together in a room, even sleeping with them), the sanitary conditions (you can see the animals pissing everywhere in the house they're all kept in together), and her buying tons of foxes from fur farms to keep them as pets, basically funding the industry. Even her picking up the foxes when they clearly don't enjoy the cuddling and pets seemed odd to me, sure it's cute but the foxes often look distressed.
>>1993089Kinda hate this girl. She criticises bad animal owners on tiktok but she keeps a lot of birds, reptiles and fish in a bunch of (tiny) cages and tanks in her little room.
No. 1993324
Saged for old/dry cow but does anyone else remember Brooke Houts and her controversy? For those who don’t she accidentally uploaded a video of her beating down, spitting on, and screaming at her dog and then uploaded the “correct” version of her just playing around with him. Overtime more videos of her mistreating him got out and she lost him, she also gave a hilariously shit notes app apology
>>>/snow/849984 Apparently it was only a few months back in October was when she finally deleted her channel and seems to have disappeared. Maybe it’s a bit too late to bring her up but since she’s one of the more notorious pettubers/influencers I figured I may as well
No. 1993331
>>1993291>>1993301Big cats don't belong in human homes, period. It's dangerous for humans, other animals, and the big cats themselves. They're wild animals (yes, even if they're born in captivity) and it's unethical, full stop.
Also wtf kind of logic is "She works in a cat cafe, so it's okay for her to keep a Cheetah at home"? Are you fucking insane? I don't care if you're Steve Irwin, the only animals that belong in a home are domesticated ones.
No. 1993359
>>1993077I know these youtubers have to pick good thumbnails for the views but man this gives me fake rescue vibes.
Quick google found this terribly formatted website:
https://thegoodthebadtheunforgivable.blogspot.com/2013/12/hope-for-paws-eldad-hagar-abandoned.htmlWarning, photo of aa dead dog left to die in a carrier
Tl;DR
>the 'rescue' ran by Elad Hager raised over $15k to rescue 100+ dogs >proceeded to then abandoned the dogs (no vaccines, not spayed/neutered) at boarding centers or high kill shelters>Some dogs were reported to be left at boarding facilities for 18+m, other rescues had to step up to pull them>court records show Elad did not pay boarding fees>Elad's wife, Sharon Gold, was convicted of Embezzlement and did prison time for it>Elad had 2 Basenjis rescued and euthanized for behavior without behavior assessment>Elad also left a black lab in a crate at one 'rescue' in AZ, was not found until a neighbor stumbled across it long after the dog had diedAnother here;
https://web.archive.org/web/20191101185733/http://cherylkicksass.blogspot.com/2015/04/is-hope-for-paws-shady-hollywood.htmlA bit bible humpy, but TL;DR
>Blogger donated money to Hope For Paws, org breached privacy to snail mail them more pleas for donation>Found out they had no available animals to adopt through their rescue despite claims of rescuing hundreds; it was just a generic animal search through all adoptable animals in the country like Petfinder>Concerns of staged follow-up adoptions, by taking photos of family with a dog and making a facebook page (a little tin-foil to me, but so was TND being on heroin so who knows maybe they're right)
>They do not send reciepts of donations for people to write off taxes, possibly to skirt IRS>TERRIBLE reviews on Guidestar, which is like the BBB for non-profitsAnd that was with one quick google search, I never even looked at this dudes shady videos.
No. 1993384
>>1993377Yes, because an adult female panther (which is just a melanistic leopard) has a territory of about eighty square miles in the wild. They eat over eight hundred pounds of meat each year. If Luna can't live in the wild, she belongs in a sanctuary or a zoo, not in some rich retard's home. The video
>>1993091 posted is a good explanation of why Luna's owner is irresponsible.
Victoria's sob story about Luna being a runt "abandoned" by her mother in a traveling sideshow is probably a load of shit. Russia has no laws against owning exotic pets, I'd be willing to bet that she just bought the leopard as a cub and made up the story to defend herself from criticism. The leopard is probably small because she's malnourished.
No. 1993396
>>1993377The needs of a big wild animal like Luna are different from pets. A wild animal shouldn't be owned by some rich lady, it shouldn't be taken on walks, it shouldn't live with a dog in a house, it shouldn't even have such a close human contact. Saving (supposedly) the animal doesn't give you the right to keep it as an exotic pet when it becomes an adult or gets better.
>>1993393The thing is that she doesn't seize the animals with the help of organizations, she doesn't actually shut down the business but she gives them money instead. She's paying them to keep doing their jobs and she's left with a bunch of foxes she can't properly take care of. Yeah the foxes have better lives than before, but again she's just funding the fur farm business directly.
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No. 1993813
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Pic related for those ITT that STILL don't understand why posting cute pictures of wild animals as pets is an issue (not even touching on the husbandry of most of these animals and the human/animal welfare)
Also, buying animals from a fur farm just PROMOTES that fur farm, by giving them money for this animal. It's like going to a puppy mill and buying all their puppies. It funds them, supports the breeding, and shows that there is a market for this product.
I saw some people on JuniperFox and SaveAFox say that some of the foxes were given away for free because of disabilities and would have been killed… There's not too many disabilities that would affect a fox or mink's coat quality, or the ability to find food and water in a small cage. Like a fox with a bum leg is still going to be used for fur. A blind fox still can have perfectly fine fur. It's a lame excuse.
>>1993080Holy crap I have NEVER heard of this, and I always thought I followed this stuff kinda closely. I figured she fell off after recording and then uploading her wolf attack, which btw no animal behaviorist that reacted to that believed the fire ant thing for a second. She was fucking throwing shit at a resource aggressive dog.
It's fucking insane that people like this just get away with this shit. Hope for Paws is still going strong despite blatant lying to the IRS. Naturepunk stole from donors and allowed unvaccinated wolves to bite humans without a quarantine period, and now she's a shitty actor on reality TV. Save a fox uses her non-profit for her OF to make money, while still begging for money on a weekly basis to feed her animals. JuniperFoxx literally made her exotic animal hobby a non-profit so people can pay for her to keep her pets. I haven't even looked into the other shit posted here but it's all so tiring that these people just get away with this shit.
No. 1993850
>>1993065Oh no! I use to love watching the Save a Fox channel to see Cody the Coyote but I didn't know she was such a freak. What exactly does she do with her foxes on her onlyfans?
Now that you are ruining tamed wildlife YouTube channels that I enjoy lol, is there any milk on @timmc1269u? I've enjoyed his channel and enjoyed the antics of his coyote Weave but I found it disturbing how he let's his coyote, pit bull, racoon, and cat all just play with each other. Last year, he made several YouTube's about how someone kidnapped his pit bull but then returned him a few months later, I was skeptical and thought it was just a way for him to get online sympathy. He claims that he found the coyote pup in the woods and raised her. He believes that the pit bull may have recently impregnated the coyote. I have to admit the animals are cute, the coyote is a year older than the pit bull and would be gentle with him when he was a pup and now the pit bull is bigger than the coyote and you can tell that he tries to be gentle with her even when they're playing rough.
No. 1993852
>>1993850This guy doesn't seem too milky aside from him being very irresponsible by allowing the coyote to be at close contact with a small dog (shteve), a cat, a raccoon and a large dog. It's both a safety (especially for the small dog and cat) and a sanitary (these animals aren't vaccinated or supervised afaik) issue.
The coyote seems to be doing pretty good, she's free to roam and leave his house so she isn't detained, she has dens in the surrounding area, sometimes he gives her food and removes her tics. However the thing about the pitbull impregnating the coyote would be unacceptable and I hope it isn't true (not sure if it's possible or would create health issues for the coyote). Goes to show that even if the animal is alright, close contact with humans and domestic animals isn't good.
No. 1993877
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>>1993850Whats leaked from her OnlyFans is pretty lame. Just softcore photos at best, a lot of her just posing in skimpy outfits with exotic animals. There is one where she's about to burst with a baby fully naked, but everything is censored.
It reeks of wanting to exploit exotics for even more money, but not entirely sure how without destroying her current donating fanbase
No. 1994947
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>>1994938She goes a bit more in detail about the death in Facebook comment section, still rather vague though
No. 1995228
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Kinkatopia is getting ANOTHER kinkajou… that's I think 22 or 23 kinkajous.
It's Arkham's brother, Roger. I can't find the reason why she took in Arkham or Roger; It says nothing about their previous situation on her website. Kinkajous rarely have more than 1 young at a time, so wherever she is getting them from, is obviously breeding them.
She has a video on instagram and facebook about it, TL;DR -
>Shit talks vet right off the bat>Brings kinkajou carrier inside where she lets her cat investigate; kinkajou hyperventilates due to stress; Alex actually notices this, but does not care>put in enclosure where it is not QT, and had no separation from other kinkajous>next day shit talks vet again for her failing to realize the kinkajou has had a bandage on for over 24 hours now, despite her keeping it in a carrier at eye level while she prepared food and accosts it in a new enclosure>Never goes into why it was at the vet, what procedure it was getting, or why she has it.Also apparently Kinkatopia lady here is a recovering heroin addict. She started the rescue at her 1 year sober mark, but has relapsed since then. What is it with heroin addicts and animal hoarding? How the fuck do they get all this money for exotics?
Also IDK if anyone else noticed, but many of the board members are family of the kinkajou lady, she doesn't even hide it. That is a fucking huge red flag for non-profits. The financial officer has the same last name Driebelbis. The Mike Klein guy she got divorced from
https://trellis.law/case/12099/50-2024-dr-000540-xxxa-sb/dreibelbis-alexandra-ashe-v-klien-michael-evan No. 1995666
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For someone who is so 'one with nature' you'd think they'd be a bit more respectful of it, and not imprinting on wildlife or goading animals into biting for internet clout. No idea if this is her owl, an owl she's rehabbing, or what.
>>1993258Since no one has replied I figured I'd throw my 2c out there.
>He calls himself a sanctuary, which always raises red flags as someone getting donations to fund their animal hobby>DOES adopt out some animals (seemingly ones he knows he can't take care of) so that's good!>Nitpick: pigs & goats are tricky to keep together, if donors are paying for their care I would separate them to avoid vet costs from fighting>No chance in hell baby emus were rescues lol they were bought>fox enclosure are small but otherwise VERY nice; behind 2 doors, covered, enrichment, safe elevated hides, MUCH better than the much larger fox rescues ITT>I'm not gonna shit on their coati situation too hard, because it is retarded they aren't separating territorial ones but they have a nice enclosure and are actively trying to add more space so they can coexist>Bird cages are some of the best I've seen.>They actually DO SOMETHING when animals are uncomfortable/attacking each other>I like the prairie dog enclosure, their food is whack though>Does not APPEAR to be breeding animals intentionally (mentioned giving away quail eggs to not make more quail, separates cockatoos) but I'm not sure on this>Actually treats their wild fuckin animals like wild fucking animals with degrees of separation! Not zoo level but it's something. No forced interaction. This is so rare for rescue influencers>Moving the monitor like that was retarded. Should have been in another container, could have easily been lostI wouldn't donate to them, but from that info I don't see a problem with subscribing to them.
No. 1995693
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>>1993423She actually bred 3 more jackal pups that she's bottle feeding, and doesn't even have homes set up for them yet. She claims she is going to sell them to educational centers, but nothing that's accredited is going to want a severely imprinted jackal so it's going to other pet influencers self-described as 'animal educators'.
She is going to make absolute bank on this jackal breeding gig, because they are so rare in the pet trade. Meanwhile, she is still doing the 'Five-dollar Fridays' where she begs followers to donate $5 every Friday, is currently begging to be sent Farmer's Dog Food, has 2 different fundraisers for the 500 foxes she is (slowly?) rescuing, asking people to become a Facebook subscriber for $10, a Patreon member from $3-100, $5/month for OnlyFans, or sponsor a fox for $25-95/month.
I get needing donations but my god, have some tact.
>>1995237His ear went 'missing' into the gullet of another fox, btw. The Fox's name is Apollo/Vincent Van Gogh. I think I would have gone with the name Evander Holyfield since it wasn't the fox's choice to have his ear taken off.
That wasn't their first issue with the fencing, either. Fox Cerebus caught it's leg in the gate and had his leg amputated before this.
No. 1996021
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That Landon guy is fucking insane lol why aren't more people up in arms about him? Him and Jacob Feder (I usually mix them up) are like the Jake Paul of exotics.
>>1993324Genuinely fucking disgusting and I never even heard of her. Her apology was SUCH bullshit, didn't admit to any fault just said she needs to get her dog trained. Bitch you need therapy.
>>1993453You're gonna have to greentext this like im a retard because I know nothing about horses
That nasogastric tubing WITHOUT sedation or even fuckin lube sent chills down my spine. idk if this is medfagging but it also doesn't look like that tube is deep enough to go down to the stomach, meaning the fluids could enter the lungs instead. Granted I have never done a nasogastric tube on a fully aware animal, they usually don't much squirm after the tube has already passed.
No. 1996029
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New Save A Fox rescue just dropped.
I see she is still pumping for donations, I guess that Porsche and Navigator wasn't enough.
No. 1996338
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Save A Fox seems to reveal another new rescue daily
According to that excel sheet she is now up to…… a lot.
>>1993936I had to google a bit to find her and yeah, hell no. I love how she says they are NOT PETS, meanwhile treating them like pets.
I looked into it too and the rescue is actually disgusting.
No rescue worthwhile will allow humans to enter the exhibit of a conscious big cat like that. I know it looks cute and it looks like they are having fun, but all it takes is letting that cat act like a big cat for a moment, and now a big cat is dead and a person is mauled or dead. It's honestly asking a lot for these cats to behave like housecats.
They appear to be planning to breed white lions, which is gross. Their jag is fat as fuck. They have adult tigers and bears interacting. Everyone interacts with animals there, not just that sammie girl, and they seem to have done cub petting back when they had cubs.
None of these animals are 'rescues' btw - they are a non-profit EDUCATIONAL FACILITY, meaning they get donor money to keep exotic animals and 'educate' the public. I haven't seen a single animal yet they rescued, they all seem to have been bought or bred. Maybe I'm overlooking something.
No. 1996388
>>1996029>IntakeYeah, no. She either found this cat or adopted it. "Intaking" animals is what
shelters do. I mean actual, licensed shelters who work with animal control officers and are formally registered as non-profits. Mikayla is a hoarder who registered as a fur farm to dodge regulatory bodies.
If she doesn't want to do the right thing and surrender the cat to an actual shelter, then maybe she should sell her sports cars or more tasteless photo ops on OnlyFans.
No. 1996520
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>>1996349Her OnlyFans is highly structured around her exotic animals; it gives her a unique draw that most other OF models can't get. She apparently has around 800 subs, at about $5/m, so she's making around 4k/m to not even show nudity.
At least she keeps the animals out of the more kinky shit. But she does pole dance with them, and there's a few videos where she nearly wipes out on her mink
>>1996398A quick google search shows that they are illegal to keep as pets in both of her locations. However remember, she is licensed as a fur farm. I think she stated that's how she's able to keep her animals like foxes, stoats, minks, etc. I believe that's how she's getting away with it.
>>1996049If no one brings it to light though, they will continue to be worshipped by followers. Just look ITT alone the people who said they watched SAF. Hell, KiwiFarms listed Hope For Paws (>>1993077
>>1993359) as a 'reputable rescue' because no one is talking about these guys.
It's also the epitome of milk; they literally NEED the attention and views to feed their animal addiction.
No. 1996585
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>friends
lol
Also I love how all of these fuckers say #notpets while literally treating them exactly like you would treat a pet.
Baby jag and a baby capuchin, so many baby animals but so few adults. I wonder where they all go?
No. 1996661
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Oh boy another rescue! That's 3 in 2 days. I guess this one is at least being brought somewhere else, but I checked into that Clevyr Creatures Fox Sanctuary, and I dare say it manages to be even worse than SAF. It seems like they are kept in dog kennels and have like a few larger turn-out areas? Kinda sad looking tbh.
No. 1996773
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>>1996734If it is amber, like she believes, it doesn't have any health issues associated with the color. Maybe you're thinking of those obese blue finnish foxes, or platinum? I am also not sure if fur farmers would cull for this; as far as I know, they don't use the legs and feet, so they don't care how damaged they get.
Also, the home it's going to isn't too hot. The 20 or so foxes seem to be kept in pairs in what appears to be 10x14 dog kennels on concrete with toddler slides for enrichment, and they have a few turn out pens where they rotate the foxes. It is not an adoption facility, either, those foxes are mostly there to stay. If that is a suitable home for adoption/foster, she should have been able to rehome most of those 500 foxes by now. I honestly wouldn't feel comfortable keeping 20 dogs like this though.
I was honestly happy when I saw it was an instant turn around, until I saw it was going to a rescue that is already claiming they are at max capacity. Pic related is their fox pens.
No. 1996782
>>1996773No, not the blue or platinum ones, she had a very similar fox a while ago that was brown/isabella with pink nose and blue eyes, I can't find the video or recall the name though because she has so many foxes. But in the video of her presenting the foxes (they were "rescuing" 3 at once I think) she does explain that the color was associated with health risks/short lifespans so the breeder gave it up. Not sure if it was a bullshit story though.
Anyway those cages look sad and incredibly small.
No. 1997176
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Is anyone else worried about Mikayla? She doesn't seem quite right. Did doing softcore porn break her?
No. 1997402
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I just realized the fox that has no back feet is also going to be living in these concrete pens
>>1996773 at Clevyr Creatures.
As that fox gets bigger and those legs carry more weight and scrape against concrete, it's going to get very painful. Potentially wounded, infected.
They claim it has the main pad on one foot and just a toe on the other. I don't see the pads myself tbh; I see a spot with sparse hair on the bottom of the leg likely from the fox walking on it.
>>1997368Tried on 2 browsers and it works for me. It's really not that important though, just a clip of her acting weird before pole dancing.
No. 1997952
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Wait a sec, Save A Fox already did a donation drive for Hallux, the vet was just a check up; they didn't do anything besides go 'yup that's a foot', no radiographs or surgery or meds. The fox is already sponsored ($50-95 depending who they sponsored through since they were tagged on instagram), now Clevyr Creatures sanctuary needs a donation drive too for this fox that they shouldn't have room for, because they were already at max cap with 20?
Also just realized they are putting this fox with no feet on concrete lol. I'm sure that's not going to be painful and problematic as he gets older.
No. 1998636
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Stumbled up on this girl. Her whole page is about putting her reactive wolf dog in stressful, dangerous, totally unnecessary situations and then "correcting it". She'll get the dog, herself or a stranger killed some day, but omg cool wolfdog content for social media. Dragging her wolfdof to the dog park where other dogs flock to it while its clearly uncomfortable and ready to fight, off leash around children, trying to pick it up by dragging it by its stomach etc. I'm sick of seeing influencer who shouldn't even have a medium-big sized dog think they can handle a wolfdog, and then post content for other retards with no experience who think they too can handle a wolfdof.
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>>1998636Shoving it into a way too small cage, staring into its eyes while it snarls at her
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>>1998641Taking it leashed into a dog park with many strange dogs around
No. 1999849
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God this gives me such 'shit that never happened' vibes. She just so happened to find a stray relatively uncommon otter rabbit and a stray pet buck that both happen to be good breeders and throwing exactly what she wants. I'm not buying it.
So much ass patting in here too. She already broke the cardinal sin of rabbit keeping by not just keeping them on wire bottoms, but wire bottoms that are way too fucking big. Not to mention she killed a whole clutch because she couldn't afford it and killed the rest off with coccidia.
I get that they're livestock, they're just going to be used for dog food and trinkets, but she is gonna kill these ones off too if she doesn't get smaller wire. It's not even stopping predators.
No. 1999859
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>>1998636ngl this is hilarious, in a sad way. I just love these shots of obviously stressed, upset wolf mid-attack with 'Happy Wolf' next to it, and a ton of cope
>>1998642Also dog parks aren't even good for dogs, I can't imagine why someone would think it's a good idea for their supposed wolf.
No. 2000285
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>>1999876A lot of these people skirt the fucking line, pic related
>>2000174Holy crap I didn't know that. Yeah diabetic animals probably shouldn't be getting a diet of lolipops daily
No. 2002557
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Uh god we can't even get away from the pride virtue signaling in fucking foxes.
They're foxes, mikayla. They aren't fucking gay.
No. 2006112
>>1993080Oh, man, this lady. Her name is Alex Warnock.
First thing: she's had
soooooo many fucking animals. It started in 2006 when she acquired a four week old camel named Baby, and from then on, in no particular order, she's had: a dozen different dogs, emus, ostriches, sheep, hamsters, a raven, a fox, a hornbill, another camel, a cat, a horse, a water buffalo, a mink, a wolfdog, etc. Absolutely more that I'm missing. It's common for most of them to show up once or twice in videos then never be mentioned again - the hornbill, mink, and fox stopped showing up pretty early on, the only dog consistently shown was a doberman, and she's had kangals/borzois/german shephards/corgis/greyhounds/lions/tigers/bears.
I'd like to think that Alex just eventually got bored with the ones that stopped appearing and just didn't include them in videos, maybe adopting them off to other people who truly wanted to take care of them, but it's likely that a good amount of her menagerie suffered from neglect in one way or another, going off of anecdotes and the articles of her being charged for animal abuse.
A sampling of her stints:
>purposefully agitating a wolfdog for youtube content by kicking a bucket at it or taking it's food away, like someone else mentioned>eventually gave it away to a sanctuary, but people aren't certain about this, some say it was euthanized>when people were asking where her cat Pancake was, she claimed that a vet dumped it in the middle of the desert? also claims that the vet was an ex of hers>her doberman was attacked by another dog, then a rattlesnake, then a gila monster…>in 2020 her camels escaped and ran through her neighbors yard, which prompted local authorities to investigate>found a starving horse and water buffalo, remains of a sheep that she owned was found miles away with cougar tracks by the corpse, no water for any of the animals on her property>after this, a bunch of animals were seized in aprilShe was apparently bedridden and asked a relative to take care of the animals, and she didn't show up for any court dates.
No. 2006113
File: 1718795180635.jpg (1.03 MB, 2250x2026, oppenheimer.jpg)
>>2006112And then there's this.
One peculiar detail about the gvnews.com articles is this tidbit:
>The owner of the animals changed her name in January 2019 from Alexander Dirac Robert Warnock to Julius Robert Oppenheimer.1:1 copying the name of the guy who made the atomic bombs. Weird enough on it's own, sure, but when I searched for stuff relating to camelsandfriends, on blogs, on youtube comments, wherever, a person would pop up saying they knew Alex personally, and that she genuinely believed that she was a reincarnation of Mr. Destroyer of Worlds. Also apparently addicted to meth. There's a few other factoids, like how the vet killing her cat story is complete bullshit, but her being insane and a methhead are the most consistent.
I have not heard anything from her beyond 2020. I'm inclined to believe she is homeless or dead. It's such an insane contrast to how idyllic most people viewed her channel; a secret and sadder Joe Exotic. it kills me that she had a nice big Arizona property in the middle of nowhere, probably a fantastic setup for camels if she just stopped there.
No. 2006659
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>>2006112>>2006113I looked into this lady for a bit. The person she blamed to kill her cat was not a vet, but a vet tech. It was the same girl she was living with for years and was on Animal Planet with her. I'm pretty sure in the video she did call the lady a vet, idk if she was just too out of it or thought that lie would make the story spicier or what. Someone made a facebook group calling the 'vet' out by name as an animal abuser. Her poor room mate really seemed to just want to get the fuck away from it.
Imagine this nationally famous psycho calling you an animal abuser and potentially ruining your career.
Also a lot of her dogs were named after nuclear explosions, I think like 3. If you backtrack her blog on wayback machine vs her other social medias, she fucks up the names on a lot of animals, and really fucks up the dates on when some animals died and/or how they died, only a few months after the event. She also had some very weird way of saying things. There were some signs she wasn't quite right.
I could have sworn she said something about being adopted at one point.
Pic related is her reddit. She really went off the deep end. There are now multiple accounts saying that she does meth specifically, I wish one of these people would come out with some proof, pictures, videos, or even their relation to her.
No. 2009639
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I actually found KinkaCunt drama on a group for veterinary medicine, of all places. So I thought I'd share.
Her dumb ass just sent her 200k followers on a vet clinic because she doesn't know fuck all about the exotics she has. Of course, it's being review bombed to hell now.
The TL;DW:
>RIP Roger - died of Renal Failure
>Blamed the vet clinic for requiring the animal to be vaccinated to stay in the clinic (likely rabies, for employee health)
>Blamed clinic for keeping him in a cat cage, as opposed to I guess a kinkajou cage?
>Blamed clinic for not giving him a cone (cone would not have stayed on anyways)
>Blamed clinic for not immediately sending home with antibiotics, despite that being an outdated practice
>Blamed clinic for keeping bandage on him (no excuse for that one, but it didn't cause Renal Failure)
>Blamed Roger sucking his penis
>Blamed prev owners for not having Roger recover in their home, supposedly resulting in the penis sucking behavior
>Took a wee little bit of responsibility that she was unable to monitor the animal's urination for a while
I'm guilty for shaming people who surrender animals sometimes, but never ever do I do so in public. She's a huge public figure. It shames people into keeping animals they can't realistically keep, it scares people away from re-homing that should really be re-homing. It's just so bad in an animal rescue/welfare light
No. 2009751
File: 1719740459898.jpg (878.91 KB, 1080x2340, 1000001888.jpg)
>ctrl+f "pregnant">13 resultsOkay…
Saging because it's a little too late for this since it seems he's moved on to other trends thank god but I once visited his account when he'd upload "helping my rescued pet give birth" videos.
https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLRfpyIF9ZtKI_omdbKaTai9m3ZVhWr7wK No. 2012474
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Bit of an update on SAF since I haven't seen one yet;
>Still slowly dwindling down the 500+ fur farm foxes, now around 200+
>Says they have ran out of adopters they will accept, and are planning on building housing for the remaining 200
>Took on a fox that cost 5k to diagnose, to find that it had cancer, liver failure, and calcium build up. They were considering spending 10k on excising the tumor if it wasn't for the animal's age + other medical conditions
>Asking for donations for a $120 health monitor collar and $300/year sub for a fox that has seizures
Keep in mind they are still begging daily for food
>Posts about how foxes make good pets for people looking for pet foxes
>Posts about how foxes are good with kids if the kids are good with foxes
>Facebook detects their pages as AI. lol
Semi-SAF related;
>Halifax the fox with no foot is still alive and seemed to have boosted Clevyr Creature's followers by quite a bit.
SAF and Clevyr Creatures also seem to heavily copy off of each other's posts. Like sometimes word for word. They also both bitched that AI thing on Facebook, their posts were within 24h of each other.
No. 2012767
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>>2012715Thanks for the heads up.
Their youtube link brings you to a spoof SpaceX 'news' channel, with one upload and a ton of videos stolen from the actual SpaceX to pad out their playlist. But the community section is stall all foxes lol
Great excuse to get some donations though.
No. 2013804
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Sarah Bartell is looking for a serf, if anyone is interested in taking care of her farm. You'd be on your own for obtaining a home, water, heat, electricity, waste disposal, etc.
Or if you don't feel like being a slave, you can pay $400 for a spot to place your trailer. With no water, electricity, heat, waste disposal, etc…
Also it appears like she's shifted hard into the re-selling business. She did some re-selling of pelts, but now it looks like that's her main gig. Selling used coats and jewelry. I guess there wasn't a big enough market for deer skulls. Obviously had to rebrand because NaturePunk branding leads to siphoning funds from a non-profit.
No. 2014038
>>2013992"Off-grid homestead in South Central Washington seeks live-in farm hand. Park yout conversion bus, RV, or tiny house. You'll be responsible for your own amenities… Daily chores include feeding and watering livestock… cleaning and maintaining [property]…. assisting with property… projects."
Literally offering just a place to park your van, for whatever work they want you to do. Or, $400/month to skip the slave labor.
People are saying $400 is a steal. But they're not renting out a house or even an RV pad with hook ups. There's not even a concrete pad. For $100 more you can get all of that
No. 2020804
Not that milky but thestadlerfam on tiktok is the wholesome rebrand of @mad.chi. This is that woman who used to constantly post videos of her harassing her old chihuahua who was constantly distressed. She put sad captions about Madi being a 'rescue' and how 'hard' it was to help her through her aggression and acted like a saint while terrifying her dog & refusing free offers from dog trainers. She recently bought another chihuahua and of course immediately used it for sponsorship content by giving this tiny thing a probably completely unnecessary bath then feeding it a fucking huge calming treat in the middle of the bath instead of before. There's no more obvious abuse but I don't think these types of influencers experience actual empathy for animals. Also there are literally purebred chihuahuas up for adoption everywhere, they are rampant in shelters
No. 2020811
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>>2020804screencap of a deleted tiktok where she forces Madi into a costume while she bites her & starts panting from anxiety
No. 2022329
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Are we really just going to gloss over the fact that KinkaCrazy put the ashes of her latest dead kinkajou Roger in her tattoo ink?
No. 2022624
>>2020811Reminds me of @nikiozeri who also
got famous for terrorizing the fuck out of his white chihuahua. Every other video he makes is just him teasing the dog until it snaps and yet he never gets called out for the abuse bc people assume that all small dogs act like this. The brown chihuahuas he owns are much calmer, I wouldnt be surprised if the moid was hitting/pinching the white one behind the scenes to make it so reactive.
No. 2029192
File: 1724437119827.mp4 (5.64 MB, 360x640, trauma dump.mp4)
I can't be bothered to keep up with the kinkatopia drama regularly, so here's a summary;
>Still feeding the feral cat that keeps pumping out babies
>recently adopting out the latest set of feral kittens, keeping one/a few
>video that shames people rehoming to her
>mentions losing job, getting divorced, losing 2 pets recently
>also feeding animals high fructose corn syrup instead of just fruit, because that worked so well for Americans
>Brought her flying squirrels inside for the first time in years, and one dies the first night.
Currently she is too traumatized to talk about it, I'm sure it has nothing to do with her several predators in the house which according to her website was why she moved them outside in the first place.
>got a red footed tortoise from south florida wildlife center, and I am now just learning she has a pit of red footed tortoises
I think it might also be doubling as a kinkajou cage
I think that's about caught up
No. 2034516
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I've got a new one for y'all - Jeffery Leibowitz.
TL;DR -
>Best known for handling venomous snakes (hots) without PPE
>Makes fun of people who are cautious around hots
>Gets an Inland Taipan, the most venomous snake on the planet
>gets bit almost instantly
>Gets antivenom donated by Kentucky Reptile Zoo, despite the shortage
>will have lifelong complications
>cops came to confiscate snakes, noted subpar conditions and holes in tubs large enough for escapes
>No zoos nearby wanted potentially diseased snakes, a family member gave permission to have snakes euthanized
>Jeff later makes an Instagram video gloating about the whole ordeal
Lots of people have bitched about his snake husbandry before this incident - rumors are that his other hots aren't healthy enough to be active enough to land a bite, hence why this brand new snake was able to make contact.
No. 2039216
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>>2012474The woman who owns Clevyr Creatures is Save a Fox's social media manager. It's basically a Save a Fox franchise.
No. 2044318
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SAF has upgraded to taking in fennec fox rescues, will be rehoming to Bellowing Acres and it sounds like they will be breeding them since I found no info about either of these foxes being fixed. Funny since Mikayla goes on to say there's a shortage of rescues - maybe a part of that problem is the abundance of exotic pets?
Anyways they have that one location in Florida but they evacuated all of the animals so there shouldn't be much issue there. Still questioning why they chose Florida of all places to run a private rescue.
>>2039216Well that makes a lot more sense
No. 2047973
File: 1729300692198.png (1.28 MB, 1234x1310, jeff man has the plan to get b…)
Jeffery Leibowitz is at it again, free handling hots.
>police apparently missed one of his snakes, Hot Fudge
>a bunch of free handling vids of his one remaining snake
>trying to say the news reported that his dad got angry with the snakes and broke into his house to kill them all
>absolutely asinine video where he's playing the victim
>banned from MorphMarket
>Signed a deal with the producers of Tiger King and Chimp Crazy to make a Netflix series
Slightly off topic but also
>all that trash in lower left pic
No. 2048201
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>>2034516>>2047973This guy is actually quite the cow.
About a week or so after he got out of the hospital from being tagged by the inland taipan, he went to a hots expo. From his youtube videos, it sounds like he mainly went to see what people thought of him getting bit lol. It's just him talking about what people thought about him being bit mostly.
Cops apparently missed the brown forest cobra because it was in another location - I guess Jeff is between homes right now.
In the past couple of days he has posted videos free handling multiple boomslangs at once and a stiletto snake - both highly venomous. These are new snakes, so someone is still giving him hots.
There is no way the snake community is getting out of this one unscathed.
No. 2072051
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Does anybody follow, Tara Babcock, On InstaGram or YouTube? She adopted a black cat when she was with J her ex-boyfriend then when they broke up she got with her new boyfriend and gave her cat up to her ex boyfriend's new girlfriend and the excuse was that her boyfriend because he's a lawyer he couldn't handle being a pet parent but yet she continues to post this type of stuff all the time on her IG. Anybody have any thoughts about this? Because she claims cats and other pets are a full commitment not gifts but yet the second she gets a new boyfriend she dumps them to somebody else and makes excuses for it, and it was NOT just one cat she also when was with her ex had rescued another one, So 2 in total!(sage your non milk)
No. 2072952
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Kinkatopia is still breeding feral cats. Keep in mind, these kittens are the grandkids of the original feral cat she's been feeding. She now has at least 2 feral females - the OG and her daughter - producing kittens. And she's not getting to the kittens young enough in their socialization period, either, so they're still hissy and pissy.
>>2054026I'll be honest I kind of find this squirrel thing to be a non-issue. She might be milky for other things, but that's a pretty tame take.
No. 2077817
>>2076902>named the bunny "Lennon" Her excuse is that you can't tell baby bunnies' sexes. It's true but she still could've given Lennon a unisex name, or just renamed her Lena later on
>>2077812This shit is pure sadism. Maybe I'm biased
because bunnies are my favorite animals and I would cry if I forced myself to watch that video but this is not necessary AT ALL. In zoos, they feed crocs pieces of meat and it works just fine. In the wild, they hunt other prey, not domestic bunnies. So why do this? And of course it's a scrote doing it…
No. 2078514
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Save-A-Fox alone has so much bullshit going on so here is a quick synapses since the holidays;
>got another coyote earlier late December named Yote - still refuses to talk about what happened to Dakota
>New cash grab - Animal Sponsor FB group, where you have to pay to sponsor an animal to get in
>promoting dogs playing with foxes since foxes are such great pets
>Selling two different calendars, originally $20/pop
>Elsa the Fox died from foreign body object
>Now doing lottery for facility tours
>Waverly the fox with aggressive bone cancer hasn't died yet, despite Mikayla expecting it to die since last fall
No. 2078738
>>2074167I know a lot of people in vet med don't like her because she handles stressed animals quite aggressively, when they should just be medicated or sedated to reduce fear. She is giving me Cesar Milan vibes as of late - flooding animals until they 'behave' ie shut down, and touting herself as some kind of groomer messiah. She also really shits on other groomers every chance she gets, which is not a good look.
I think things really got heated with her recent cat videos of her scruffing - scruffing is really looked down on nowadays, and I think she is very incompetent with cat handling.
I didn't like her when she began spouting absolute bullshit about dog breeds like it was gospel. She also really pushes 'exotic' and 'rare' colors in dog breeds which promotes unethical breeding. It sucks because she had some good info in there, sprinkled with some dangerous info.
No. 2079029
>>2078738>she handles stressed animals quite aggressively, when they should just be medicated or sedated to reduce fearGod, she
prides herself on not using sedatives, except she HAS shown more than one animal on her channel that was sedated prior to
being groomed, which really defeats the point she is going for lol.
But yeah I noticed the aggressive handling, especially with cats. I think one time she immediately put a bubble muzzle on a relatively well-tempered cat for just growling at her and that never sat right with me, especially because it really stressed the cat out after she muzzled it.
No. 2102324
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This FB post kind of got to me. Basically a 'woe is me' because she can't work with her 'dream animals' (not the foxes or the minks or the black jackals that were her dream animals, but something else) for free under the guise of her non-profit. She isn't poor by any means btw, her husband has an extremely expensive car collection. She doesn't have a living room/carpet/couch because her 'dream animals' are not compatible with these things. I just hate that she's acting like she's doing this for anyone besides herself.
Anyways some other news;
>Atlas the Mink is having trouble walking on back legs - radiographs are WNL, they are getting an MRI next
>It's been a little over 1y since buying that fur farm; they still have 100 foxes in the fur farm to get out. Meaning they have done something with the other 400
>Yearly audit shows they were over 27k over budget in a single month
You can search non-profit tax filings on the IRS; According to her 990, she made over 1mil in 2022 and over 200k in employee benefits and salaries, and as far as I can tell only one employee is getting paid compensation.
>Took in a solo lemur that she seems to keep in a ferret nation cage
>Waverly the fox with bone cancer, they decided doesn't have bone cancer but some other type of tumor that just so happens to also metastasize in bone but allow for a good QoL (lol)
I think they also rehomed Waverly too, which I find kinda fucked considering the poor thing has an aggressive painful cancer for someone else to deal with.
>obtained a pine martin that regularly is kept with their mink
>Dixie the fox in their care was found with a tail injury in the enclosure that had to be amputated
>Found out she at some point rehomed her pet chinchillas, stating the predation risk
A lot of other shit that is just normal for Mikayla; mixing incompatible species, children with rabies vectors, inappropriate handling, etc. I don't even bother with that shit anymore.
No. 2102326
File: 1742839668792.png (1.06 MB, 943x523, SAF yurt.png)
I had to make another post for this gem on SAF;
Mikayla wants YOU to volunteer your life and live in this yurt to work for free 5 days a week! It's unpaid internship, but she is generous enough to give compensation for food and toiletries, and a tent to live in. There's a one week 'trial' period where you don't get shit though. I'm sure the yurt is rated for hurricanes. Also hope you enjoy shitting outside in the rain.
Also she did some photoshoots in lingerie in the outdoor bathroom to post on Facebook, then wonders why everyone is mad when she promotes her stuff to very young kids. Mikayla, you made an OnlyFans specifically for this type of shit.
No. 2121999
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I saw this on Instagram Gabby Nikolle calling out exotic pet Influencers. look at that poor piggy on the dashboard of the car! social media brain rot big time
No. 2124917
>>2122016Kekius Maximus
>>2102326It's so uncomfortable how she won't seperate sexualizing herself with posts about cute animals and Save a fox. Can't she see that marketing to people who actually care about animals, kids, and male pervs at the same time is a bad idea?
No. 2126849
File: 1749615445600.mp4 (12.66 MB, 720x1280, AQM4y8kQT3VfgDVt4rNOz13WuWeonN…)
Gabby Nikolle is a weirdo, Why is she saying they were so beautiful and it's so sad the fish passed away, It's a Koi Fish factory farm pet breeder for the pet industry? I would think for someone who runs a animal sanctuary they wouldn't be supporting a fish breeder who breeds Koi fish for rich people and the pet industry??
No. 2126851
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I'm so confused though, Gabby Nikolle claimed to be an animal sanctuary so why is she breeding chickens for chicks for her boyfriend's selfish desire for eggs for protein, They claimed they would never intentionally incubate turtle tortoise and crocodilian alligator eggs because they are a animal sanctuary? But yet the fact is MOST chickens that hatch will be born male roosters fun fact so that adds to the dumping of roosters which is it crisis right now they get on to people for breeding animals for the pet industry but yet they breed chickens for egg protein because of selfish desires Chris claimed he was vegetarian because eating meat is wrong but breeding chickens because you love eggs is ok?
No. 2126964
>>2126960 Nope you're you're just projecting because you're the retard you have no clue how chickens have been genetically modified. Either contribute to the thread or shut up
Such a whiny little bany
(infighting) No. 2130176
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Save A Fox AKA Mikayla Raines committed suicide a couple days ago according to the Save a Fox facebook page. RIP.
https://www.facebook.com/SaveAFoxRescue/>She struggled with autism, bpd, and more. Even socializing would send her over the edge. Her baby daddy is using the opportunity to get more donations.
No. 2130262
>>2130247I saw this
>>2130176 video going around animal sanctuary fb groups and at first I felt sad but then, yes, as he started begging for donations I was like "this feels so out of place" and also, yes, it seems like he is fake crying once the weirdness of him shilling donations settled in. My ultra-mega tinfoil is that he killed her. But I also don't know anything about these people so I'm sure reality is she killed herself.
(tinfoiling without proof) No. 2130298
>>2130269>wild animal situation.Like untreated rabies from a rabid fox? Maybe something similar to toxoplasmosis from all the wildlife drove her nuts and she killed herself?
I think the most likely explanation is that she killed herself. If her baby daddy killed her, I think he would want to lay low and not show himself in more videos. He doesn't seem skilled enough to be a good assassin so I'm sure law enforcement would figure it out.
Riddle me this:
>Autistic>ADHD>BPD >has trouble ordering from menus>sensory overload from wearing her favorite jeansYet she was fine with running an onlyfans and showing herself in lewd situations with her animals? Is that realistic?
(tinfoiling without proof) No. 2130308
>>2130283And yet you're here too. Quit moralfagging. Though I do find it interesting a number of wks such as yourself decide to pop up as soon as that video went live.
Imo she and the people around her should have gotten her help instead of allowing her to spiral like she had been. I'm still loosely skeptical but choosing to believe but these BPD bitches go both ways. The husband seems no different, honestly.
No. 2130309
>>2130176Not gonna snap at people who are questioning this, but mentally ill people are everywhere, and I'm sooner to chalk up this + her hoarding behavior as being a mental health issue then her being a calculated, machiavallien narciccist who orchestrated her own death.
It's pretty jarring to me. I'd wish for a 'come-to-jesus' moment then having her gone.
(sage your shit) No. 2130322
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There's been shitflinging across various websites, trying to point fingers at who was responsible, if at all, for her death.
People have calling her out on Tumblr, but this was hardly an active demographic besides 2-3 blogs who documented the history of her foxes, and they all seem pretty lucid about the situation. No tap-dancing on her grave, not peddling back on her being an animal abuser but overall seeing it as a tragedy, etc.
Apparently a Reddit dedicated to criticizing her called /r/saveafoxsnark existed, but I only JUST learned about this from people talking about the situation. They privated + the person responsible for creating the subreddit deleted their account. I have no idea how active or obsessive they were.
No. 2130325
>>2130204>hoarded animals>mental illnesses>impulsive decisions like OF>"It was the internet bullies!" Hm, and tbh her husband seems strange/autismo so I doubt he had been much help to her. Does anyone else note his dry crying/and his quick shifting of tones? How talking about the impacts on his family and children take second seat before imploring fans to continue buying merch, giving internet attention, scheduling tours, and donating to keep the business alive 'for the animals'? The funding, the funding…ugh. The man only cares about saving his money-making bag now that wifey is dead. Does he have an OF? Will hers be kept active to continue selling old content?
>most recently the accusations and name calling came from those she considered close friendsAh, so not internet randos. People close to her and who knew her.
I cannot stand this man, I got a bad feeling about him. Hope they investigate him.
No. 2130330
>>2130265>>2130273>>2130283Your overreactions are honestly as
sus as the video. I've seen way worse receptions to cow deaths than this, here people are just noting how strange his behaviour is and shilling merch in the midst of a eulogy.
Even making a public video so soon after a death is weird.
I dunno, he might just be weird and awkward, and soon people will figure out if she's dead fr and then the speculation will end.
No. 2130333
There's a posting on her FB or Insta from I think some months ago where she mentioned a life change away from this saveapet schtick, saying that it took too much. Maybe she was contemplating a life change from her bad acting husband as well. Fake crying is not an easy sell and keeping it up for so long is probably suicide in this instance. Anyone who can't tell that's a bad act/psycho.. is a menu item. What it must take to go through with such an act? The fact that the so called bullying came from those in the industry/friends is called critique, not bullying. All of the comments regarding them that I've seen seemed like came from a place of legit concern and based on real issues. The first thing I did was look for an OF.. her husband must have been in Tears about that. You know, once he found out and paid off his $400k super car. I wonder if he'll keep her OF going. Probably post the real sauce now. Also, her goal with saveafox was to domesticate foxes such that everyone had one as a pet. She was poorly compelled and a product of the shit world we're suffering that makes whores of us all. Think, saveafox babydaddy to a girl who just killed herself after years of sold your soul success in a world that chews people up and spits them out, who couldn't take any criticism while being a social media porn star, would surely post a video fake crying for continued car payments, bullying those who critiqued her while feigning high ground yet can't take his own advice. Then totally denigrating her greatness and long running success and fame on the basis of her spectra. And all of those who loved her so much would have even without that blinding dime a dozen OF body. What a snowflake she must have been after all.. maybe he's the basis for her greatness all along, her pillar.. omg.. it's so sad I'm crying.. does anyone have a dollar? A token? A fur coat? What about their daughter.. is she too young for OF? Tiktock.. At least he's got a retirement plan. Save the ranch! It's for the spectrals. And if you don't want to be an asshole like that in life maybe you're just on welfare posting from yur mom's basement, not the kind of killer 'tard life takes. On to the next one eh? Bets? Lars Ulrich? He can't drum for shit. That's what all of his friends say anyway.(sage non-milk and integrate)
No. 2130361
>>2130204Does anyone think the guy's video is weird? He keeps sniffling but I don't see any tears in his eyes. I hope the police investigates this thoroughly.
Rip Mikayla
No. 2130465
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I think Mikayla from save a fox rescue she really did pass away because Gabby Nikolle of the bellowing acres alligator sanctuary posted this to her instagram stories otherwise they are tricking their friends as well
No. 2130466
>>2130440It reads like even if she is dead then her husband is still behaving kinda scummy capitalizing on the tragedy for a money grab.
Their rescue as a business combined with her OF was producing tons of money, there really is no reason to beg for donations, like the average joe might need to, other than he knows people would donate if he framed the narrative about "internet bullies" instead of his mentally unwell wife not handling criticisms from friends and other rescues well on top of whatever else she was dealing with. I don't hear any accountability from him (most partners would be kicking themselves about what more they could have done/didn't do; not pushing blame on randoms) and he uses distancing language when he talks about her mental health and doesn't mention much what he did to support her through any of it–if at all.
I read that he has a collection of cars that probably need to be paid off, and he doesn't seem anywhere as passionate for the rescue as Mikayla was. With the way he emphasizes about the money, I would not be surprised if he sells off the rescue and runs off to the bank.
No. 2130468
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The plot thickens. If she really did die by suicide a couple days ago, wouldn't she be on the death records?
>>2130407This is from the Minnesota death records. If this is her accurate birthday, she's not in. Benefit of the doubt is that it's not in yet, but…
>>2130204>"…she was never in it for fame…"lol.
She posed softcore porn with her animals on her OnlyFans for other men to goon to. Not only is that morally gross, for that alone, this dude is a cuckold and Mikayla's a poor mother. Being a cluster b(itch) does explain why she was pandering to zoophiles on OF.
>>2130361He does cry some real tears, I saw one at 4:31 on the right cheek/his left cheek.
No. 2130490
>>2130262>>2130269>>2130298>>2130484Even more mentally ill are husbands that are complicit in cuckolding themselves/"showing off" their wives for other men to masturbate to. Most normal men would not want to pimp the woman they love like that. I don't think he killed her, especially if the point of him consenting to her OF content meant he was aware she was making money from it, he would quite literally have killed his own cashcow.
I would really like to know the circumstances of this alleged "suicide". How did she take her own life/what method did she use? Has her husband known about her having these kinds of thoughts? How and when did he discover her body? Even if there isn't a searchable death record yet, surely there would be a police record otherwise these youtube announcements are the first announcements of Mikayla's death, which would be really weird.
It seems really insidious to blame this on "bullying", and was the most selfish thing possible she could've done considering all the animals she had in her care. She did not even fucking bother to rehome them before taking her own life, and that's
horrible. No. 2130511
>>2130504How is it "moralfaggotry" to be sure that you guarantee that your animals are in good care of other people before you kill yourself? Are
>>2130500 and
>>2130502 ""moralfags"" because they care about Freya? Fuck off.
No. 2130517
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>>2130504"Criticism" is a really fishy and wk way to word it…
No. 2130520
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>>2130515Whatever it was, apparently she has been "cyberbullied" since 2020
No. 2130524
>>2130511It's moralfaggotry to call someone who was actively suicidal and did kill themselves "selfish" and "horrible" for not rehoming foxes (she was not alone, her foxes will be rehomed by someone else, surely). It's pitbull mom-tier odd behavior
>>2130517I'm not a fan of hers. I typed criticism instead of snark or harrassment because it's a neutral descriptor. Your picrel is indeed a criticism of her deranged behavior.
No. 2130528
>>2130507Wow, that is insanely fucked up. How do you even explain to a four year old girl that her mother is dead. And how do you explain to her later when she grows up that the reason she chose to abandon you as a child is because of mean reddit comments (supposedly.)
I know there's more to the story but they are trying to sell it right now that internet bullies are responsible for her death.
No. 2130529
>>2130524>(she was not alone, her foxes will be rehomed by someone else, surely)Yeah, and making this work someone else's problem is a shitty thing to do, both for the people that have to find the time, labor, and money to do it and for the animals as they may not be given to good homes or might just straight up be slaughtered. If stating the truth is "moralfagging" then call me the pope.
>volunteer whistle blows illegal activity>this is just "criticism"You may as well be her fan if you are willing to dismiss key details like that.
No. 2130535
>>2130204This is really sad. I've been critical of how Mikayla handled Save a fox but damn, RIP. I feel sorry for the daughter. Hope there are some reliable family members who can help raise her. Ethan seems genuinelly devastated but at the same time - who the fuck asks for money right after announcing someone's death?
>>2130533If it was funeral expenses it would make more sense but he didn't mention that.
No. 2130557
>>2130517IF this account is the truth then this highlights the rot growing underneath their business due to their lack of leadership and shady practices. Maybe what was on the horizon were legal difficulties if stories about mistreating their volunteers and animals were starting to let loose. Telling someone to not seek medical attention after an incident at site and telling them to lie–volunteer or employee–is a big no-no.
If this was the "bullying" referenced, then I could see someone personality disordered not seeing a way out from being exposed and losing face. That's why in spite of her family and animals ultimately left in need by her death, suicide would seem like the
valid option to escape the perceived embarassment.
And doesn't legal defense monies and wringing the fans of every last penny, ahead of the fallout, track? It makes sense her husband is putting out statements about "bullies" so that he can get ahead of when the truths come out–it also serves to discredit the stories and make them harder for the public to believe. He'd have already got the bag from the rubes who had donated already if the business would have to be sold or liquidated.
No talk of Mikayla's funeral expenses, or Freya's funds for her future, just the daddy wanting his funding, funding, funding, and of course no accountability of where that money goes or how it is used.
No. 2130558
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While searching for SaF on reddit I came a cross the most insane tinfoil. Evil "carnists" (non-vegans) bullied Mikayla to death because they hate animals and women. No fellow animal rights activist could ever be mean.
No. 2130569
I just realized she's the girl who gave eggs to the foxes, I did like her little youtube channel sometimes. Posting the video, I thought it was cute. I had no idea she was doing porn and taking nudes with animals in the pictures, that's really gross.
>>2130561Honestly it's usually a woman killing herself because the scrote is a piece of shit and they can't take it anymore. I don't think she's selfish, her moid is.
No. 2130574
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>>2130569>I just realized she's the girl who gave eggs to the foxes, I did like her little youtube channel sometimes. Posting the video, I thought it was cute. I had no idea she was doing porn and taking nudes with animals in the pictures, that's really gross.These were exactly my feelings about a year ago when I found out too.
>I don't think she's selfish, her moid is.I disagree, she had her OF before and all during when she dated and married him, that's super scummy. Also, there's whatever the hell this IG shit is that she engaged in.
No. 2130580
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>>2130576Yep, and here's her face to prove it
No. 2130588
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I'm also going to leave this here because this was what peaked a lot of people to Mikayla being a lolcow. As you can see, this was posted on Facebook. IIRC, she rapidly deleted it after people started reacting negatively and uncomfortably, and was pissy about it.
>>2130583I wish I had them, they're from this callout google drive:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-g_CHd4hp7iJmIwzH_TU3jXMnZfj-2QQ?fbclid=IwAR1aVpIxCeCoOTBfkxoVxfwxFyZEtOopPo9JI-W5CRyNFx2cSSThFL0V3yc No. 2130601
>>2130588I don’t find this one as shocking as the others and the fact that there are layers to this is shocking enough. Well not on Mikayla. If she wanted to conduct herself professionally, I don’t think she should’ve posed half to fully bday suit w her rescues. Call me old fashioned or even a retroactive bully idc.
Tbh if I were to guess I’d think most of the criticism would’ve matched my energy, which is mild at best and advising her to pick a lane. If she wanted her rescue open to the public and appealing to families then her side hustle is quite obviously not family friendly. I seem to remember she even offered a seasonal weekend sleepover at the rescue aimed at kids? Assuming she was active on her OF att then that is not right.
No. 2130608
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>>2130599Minors can see her FB, genius. Here's another inappropriate FB post, directly mentioning her rescue.
>>2130601Fair enough.
No. 2130618
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How did she get away with this?
>>2130571Ah, that's why. Fear of retaliation from a fanbase that would side with the creator. Sad
>>2130614Pretty sure there's a post about her husband buying a $400k new car a bit ago, as well as she just kept on buying new animals. The other callout images suggest she would regularly get an animal without having the permit for it. One of her last videos was of her new lemur. Maybe she got in trouble for it?
No. 2130627
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>volunteer hurt by rescue animal, told to cover up injury to save company from financial and legal juju
>registered as a furfarm to circumvent laws on private purchase ownership of exotic animals
>funds rooted in sexual exposure to minor audience
>rescue leadership spending money on lavish cars meanwhile claiming poor to audience for donations while mistreating volunteers
>leadership all with varying degrees of personality disorders and mental illness
>convinced that criticisms of their rescue business is a vendetta by jealous haters and competitors
Did I miss anything? This is basically the fox equivalent of Tiger King except Fox Queen killed herself before the house fell.(sage your shit)
No. 2130632
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>>2130558this is retarded on so many levels. these social media "rescues" only work to create and expand new markets for wild animals as pets which harms them further. not to mention that the fake stories these people make up to justify their purchasing and hoarding of more animals are extremely transparent. if anyone truly cared they would condemn it. i can't with the dumb comments.
considering the fact that these deeply unserious sanctuary businesses are inherently bad for the animals, and that the people running them do shit like this
>>2130517 it's even more sinister for the husband to have made such inflammatory statements and whipped his parasocial followers into a frenzy about snark subreddits where save a fox got called out. using his platform to convince people criticism toward his business drives people to suicide is a good way to shut it down i guess.
No. 2130639
>>2130632>these social media "rescues" only work to create and expand new markets for wild animals as pets which harms them furtherWorse imho: The "rescues" are just fronts for narcissistic larp where someone profits from the lifestyle of owning exotic pets while deceiving the public that what they are doing is a selfless social good.
Biggest grift I have ever seen.
No. 2130649
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The fact that most people think buying foxes off fur farms is rescuing them is genuinely retarded.
No. 2130653
>>2130649People seem to have a hard time understanding that buying foxes from fur farms just makes the owner of these fur farms go "hey let's go get more foxes these people will buy them all!" and not "omg these people bought all my foxes guess I have to close everything down". And then what? You got hundreds of foxes and you don't know where to put them, so they end up in other tiny enclosures where they may kill each other too. The fur industry loves these people, they give them easy money so they wouldn't orchestrate a hate campaign on fucking reddit.
>>2130619Do they not know why rules are in place? Why are they obsessed with smuggling in potentially dangerous wild animals? Can't they go through the proper process to legalize the animal?
>>2130618Obviously I feel sorry for her but casually talking about buying a "replacement fur farm fox" when you regularly show yourself having meltdowns over seeing fur farm foxes is a bit crazy. I also never liked how she allowed the foxes to hurt each other more than once because of poor fencing (obviously accidents happen but you're supposed to be a serious organization) and decided to train a deaf dog with a shock collar. And they also let different species interact way too much when that can go south fast.
No. 2130654
>>2130649How do they rationalize her replacing Oliver with a fur farm fox?
>>2130618 Just a "pro-fur farm" lie?
Social media is full of blind sheep and I hope the truth comes out of the woodwork, especially because soy teens are actively doxing and harrassing the pooner off the web while still somehow supportiny Mikayla after knowing she had an OF.
No. 2130656
>>2130619Who’s Reanna Morgan?
>>2130618 Do you know who the other party is? Ex employee whistleblower? Just trying to get context. And from her rescue vids she stated that the foxes they’re retrieving are well, rescues. That’s nuts if she’s just buying them from fur farms. This is already pretty damning but are there more receipts she did this for majority of her other animals? It does make sense she’d eventually resort to this since how many displaced melanistic foxes can there realistically be.
No. 2130676
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>>2130656Found my answer, she was Mikayla’s assistant and seems to have been on good terms since her bio page is still on the official site. Did she release those text msg caps?
No. 2130786
Sorry for the double post, but crosslinking from the ftm thread.
Apparently some Tiffany took responsibility for boolying SAF to suicide
>>2130760 No. 2130787
>>2130786That's a lot of responsibility to take especially for someone who looks and acts like they've got none and is likely to be next to turn up anheroed.
SAF = Shit stew, more you look, more you'll find. Stop lookin. All we can do. But the Pimp's act was too much.
No. 2130796
>>2130548>mostly depend on you over something so small and stupid is disgustingly selfish. It doesn't matter if you have BPDIt does matter, that disorder changes everything. Not to excuse bippies (i hate that she LARPed as autistic, as they usually do) but it's not small for BPDfags, things that seem small to others send them into hysterics. She should've stopped being a public figure or seeked help, imo it's a failure of her husband and family to let someone so unwell be this exposed online. On the other hand, bippies are unpredictable so there's a chance she did that on a whim. Either way it's sad, and you don't have to lie and act like a mental illness on the level of BPD "doesn't change anything". Mikayla reminds me of that porn actress who killed herself after she got dogpiled by gays for being "homophobic" (for refusing to do scenes with bisexuals). Severe mental illness and being pimped will make you want to kill yourself, unsurprisingly.
>>2130579Kek
>>2130772Both the outrage and hate has to do with her being conventionally attractive
No. 2130801
>>2130796Does it explain some of her behaviours? Sure. Does it excuse her killing herself and leaving everything behind? No. It's not hard to understand. She was an adult, and like many other mentally ill adults she was supposed to be responsible for herself and get help especially because she had a young daughter to take care of. I'm not talking out of my ass anon, I know mental illness makes it difficult but if you're an adult with a child you have to step up and get help yourself instead of saying "fuck it" and offing yourself because of reddit. You're making it sound like BPDfags aren't in control of their actions while they absolutely are, and they will often manipulate people around them to get attention, or do this shit to intentionally hurt them.
>Both the outrage and hate has to do with her being conventionally attractiveI agree that some people just hated on her because of that but many were really just saying that she was doing illegal shady shit.
No. 2130835
>>2130176She harmed animals more than she helped them, and maybe the weight of finally realizing that was too much for her to take. Foxes do not belong in the pet trade, and fur farm foxes cannot survive in the wild. By buying (yes,
buying) foxes from fur farms, she was only economically incentivizing the very problem she purported to be against. Political canvassing or working with reputable wildlife charities would've been the better path, but it wouldn't have allowed her to make kawaii viral videos about foxes eating watermelon. I hope people learn the right lessons† from this, but they probably won't. The popular narrative is already that the world is an evil place that boolied the poor angelic fox rescue girl into suicide.
†Running a sanctuary or rescue is a costly, emotionally taxing endeavor that requires a formal, organized approach. People who work in animal welfare have an ethical obligation to minimize suffering, and if an animal has a painful, progressive, incurable illness, that means putting it down, not milking its pain for money. Social media should not be a charity's sole source of financial support, because it incentivizes exploitation of the animals.
No. 2130841
>>2130840It is especially selfish since they got by with her asking for donations and doing of. I don't think her husband has a job. What are they going to do with 100 foxes still and a child to feed? If they manage to rehome them, where would the donations come from?
I know a person who's parent committed suicide. You would not wish that type of emotional damage on a kid ever. Even if you didn't care about them, really, unless you're a complete sociopath.
No. 2130843
>>2130841Fucker should sell his fancy cars before even
considering asking for more money.
No. 2130894
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>>2130874>she wanted her pet jackal, fox and lemur to run around her house and jump on her bed.Jfc imagine the smell. Also keeping primates as pets is cruel enough as it is, but it's doubly irresponsible to keep one in a house with foxes and jackals. Lemurs are highly social, they need to interact with other lemurs. Poor thing, I hope it gets sent to a primate sanctuary or a zoo (yes I understand zoos have their own issues, but at least it would be kept with other lemurs in an enclosure away from obligate carnivores). I can't link it because it's members only, but she was letting her
four year old play with the lemur. Remember, lemurs are primates, so their zoonotic diseases are much more likely to affect humans.
Poor kid ended up with really retarded parents, I feel so bad for her. Children deserve to grow up in a stable, safe, clean environment, not an exotic animal hoarder house where one parent committed suicide.
No. 2130926
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>>2130772Yes and she also seemed upbeat and happy, and the animals were cute.
>>2130786It was an FTM transmasc lesbian autistic furfag zoophile that bullied Mikayla to suicide? Picrel is her deleted reddit post.
No. 2130966
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>>2130965How does this make you feel
No. 2130967
>>2130966I assume that anyone with furry inclinations is a creepy degenerate. I'm not on his side, nor do I want to defend him as a person. What I am trying to argue against is this idea that one person is solely responsible, that it happens to be this person, and that this has been established. It's possible for sure, but it hasn't been proven yet. Just because he's the perfect scapegoat (a gross, degenerate, spiteful and perverted loser) doesn't mean the narrative that the internet has adopted regarding what happened is correct. People don't even know the story full story yet, but they're going after this person with a disturbing degree of hatred and fury, because it's a freak who did something wrong, so it's barely even a person at this point. They can do that all they want, just don't pretend you're morally superior to people who snark or gossip afterwards if you doxx and tell someone to kill themselves because you THINK they're evil
No. 2131020
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>>2131012
They worked mostly with foxes which are the favorite animal of furfag zoophiles. The actions of that tranny might have been more out of jealousy than a concern for the animals but I guess a broken clock is right two times a day.
No. 2131066
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How did this turn into the worst round of telephone ever
No. 2131081
>>2131073Kiwifarms first few pages are caping for her but then they get into the real issues with Mikayla several pages later on in the thread. One of the reasons I find SaveAFox fascinating is that you get a really positive view of the corporation and Mikayla when you just watch the YouTubes:
>She's doing charity work>She loves her animals, is knowledgeable about them, and cares for them>They love her>Please give her a small donation so that she can continue doing the great work she's been doingIt's only when you dig deeper that you uncover how much shit is in the sausage. I'm open to the possibility that some of her snarkers made some of the shit up but come on, she was posing in lewds with her animals for money, she was a disturbed woman.
No. 2131082
>>2131073even fat or pooner cows don't get as much attention from male kiwis compared to male cows because the interests don't align.
>a woman is only a cow if she's fat or a TIF.Factually not true but you're showing your ass here. Stop sweeping for male troons that hate you, you moron.
No. 2131087
All the media outlets are using the video as their source. Most of the obits are phishing/scam sites, one that is fan made. None of these 'obits' mention anything like early life, family (even if she disowned her family, she still has a child), other accomplishments. Literally only SAF. How long does it take to get an obit out these days?
If the death was not complicated, ie she is indeed dead (not MIA) and main cause of death is easily identified, the death record will be out in a few weeks at the latest.
>>2130322I have seen that sub before. Dead as fuck even at it's peak. Saveafox snark had one, MAYBE two people posting once in a blue moon, and extremely few if any comments. She gets more shit on her instagram than that sub.
No. 2131099
>>2131097Wikipedia editors are all autists, pedos, troons, and furies themselves. Plus Wikipedia has a "reliable sources only" rule where "original research" done by the saveafoxsnark or tumblr users is not allowed. The mainstream news has reported her death and not all the weird stuff so that is all that gets put in the Wikipedia articles.
Knowyourmeme is more balanced:
https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/save-a-fox-rescue-mikayla-raines-death-kazeolion-exposedhttps://knowyourmeme.com/editorials/guides/who-is-kazeolion-the-redditor-and-their-alleged-role-in-save-a-fox-founder-mikayla-raines-death-explained No. 2131109
>>2131099Thanks. It's not the first example of Wikipedia white washing monsters post mortem while riding an emo wave of hysterics. But this is one of the most indefensible. The earlier history told on her wiki page however also portrays her poorly and she lost her license for having more than three rescues at her home and how many could she handle?
There's also an interesting bit of info there about how she'd only sell to other "sanctuaries" or "sanctuaries like hers". If you click on the sanctuaries term it reeks of BS to high order and her main business was creating more of those turn key have a pet and a not for profit with a donations model. Wouldn't at all surprise me if at some point it wound up being a pyramid scheme. They all walk the same walk, talk the same talk. Nothing new under the sun. Why she had any other animals was probably just for the porn but she had a personal goal of domesticating foxes which is not saving them. The sanctuaries she sold to should be audited. Whores wearing live fur is just their gimmick.
No. 2131110
>>2130724I don't believe they were breeding foxes, but there were other exotics they were breeding. Namely, black backed jackals. Mikayla single handedly brought that species to the pet trade - it was only found in AZA zoos in America prior. She also bred sugar gliders, a snapping turtle, and flying squirrels
>>2130781Imprinting to better sell as a pet. While there's a lot of issues with this style, it does tend to make a lot of exotics more attached to humans. Otherwise, it would act like, well, a jackal.
>>2130894Zoos imo are not inherently bad. Roadside and shitty private ones like Joe Exotic's zoo sure, but there's a lot of zoos that do a lot of good conservation work. Issue is, rarely do those good zoos take in rescues like these; there's no guarantee it is a sound breeding prospect. IE did a parent have a deadly genetic disease it could pass down to offspring? Do they carry some stupid color morph? etc
Houston zoo actually does have rescue chimps - however, the females are able to take human birth control, and that zoo is super well funded to waste an entire exhibit that could have been for Species Survival Plan.
No. 2131144
>>2131082>Factually not true but you're showing your ass here. Stop sweeping for male troons that hate you, you moron.What are you talking about? How the hell is it caping for TIMs to point out that most of the female cows on KF are either fat or gendies?
>She's [x] and I would/would not have sex with heris a meme on KF for a reason. They're trying to be "self-aware" about it, but the userbase is mostly male, therefore they're not as likely to go after conventionally attractive women, 1) men are delusional and believe that there's a remote chance the lolcow will fuck them if they defend her and 2) like another anon said, people find cows because they share interests or communities with them. Most KF cows come from male-dominated hobbies or fandoms, while most LCF cows come from female-dominated hobbies and fandoms. It's just a matter of who each demographic is exposed to, which is how you end up with situations like this where Kiwifarmers have no knowledge of the milk involving Mikayla. Pettubing/petfluencing is a very female-dominated space.
No. 2131154
>>2131145If we're taking her word for it, she is lightly implying they are from an accredited zoo by saying they are part of AZA/ZAA programs, which only accept animals from other accredited facilities for ambassadors. These guys were pretty non-existent in the pet trade in the US.
If I wanted to put my tinfoil on, I'd say they brownboxed some jackals overseas where they are much more commonly kept as pets.
There is also the possibility the breeder was a fur farmer not a pet trader, but black backed jackals aren't really used for hides - their more sought after cousin the Golden jackal is though
>>2131110I stand corrected - they facilitated the birth of one litter recently. Allegedly, a fox they had came in already pregnant from another fox also in their care. But it was discovered early enough that a spay/abort could have been performed.
No. 2131164
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>>2130991I'll take my minimod b& but fuck's sake, why are we using misogynist troon language like pooner to describe a woman on a women's website? stop it
No. 2131170
No matter how you look at it, her business was never a proper rescue. Even if she didn't outright sell exotic pets (which I think she did, just not often) buying foxes, jackals or lemurs to keep them in your house is just not "rescuing". It's buying them. When you go to a dog breeder you're not rescuing the dogs, you're simply buying them.
And it wasn't even a sanctuary. Rescued foxes should be allowed to live as foxes with proper space (and without accidents related to poor fencing stemming from hoarding) and very little human interaction. No serious animal sanctuary lets people cuddle the foxes, lay in the grass with them, jump around the bed or teach them agility tricks like dogs. Her goal was to buy foxes so she could domesticate them and they could become pets (very poor results though), it's just that with the noble excuse of getting them out of fur farm cages it's hard for any normie to blame her, and the videos are cute. Yeah the foxes were living better than in the cages for sure, but it's also true that there is no need to domesticate foxes so a market for them is created. I wonder what will happen now though, I doubt her husband or anyone else will want to continue the business. The animals may be rehomed or euthanized if there is no space for them.
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Do we know much about picrel? Another possibly jealous troon or something else? There must have been some motive to be a mod
No. 2131197
>>2131170Agreed, and it heavily played on emotions via deceptive use of language overall. So it fully extends to things like "only selling to other Sanctuaries like mine/similarly licensed" which extends the control of their brand and ownership.
Since we like playing with language and its meanings to get around barriers, let's use more accurate terminology for what they had going on and call it a cult.
They were exploiting those creatures and everyone else for marketing, power and control. Right up there with any cult leader including various forms of sexual exploitation for said purposes.
A real rescue releases to the wild or something that seems like it so they can live out their lives naturally. Not trying to imprint themselves as God to them to domestic them as horrible pets.
Having a gender bending marketing wallpaper for a thirsting market for it while also sexually exploiting them in other ways is a pure hell hole and absolutely dangerous ego trip for many.
They were and are assholes and crapped up life and the world with their interaction with it. It's hard to be a God though. Just imagine the level and degree to which they take everyone for idiots. The mindless cheerleaders for them seem like zombies who are in on it somehow.
No. 2131252
>>2131246
Nta but this is an oversimplification. By purchasing foxes from the fur farm, she's funding fur farming. So it's not really an either/or situation. And the "goal" for most of the foxes at SAF is to "adopt" them out as housepets. Is being a pet better than being in a cage? Sure, but neither should be happening.
The solution to this problem is to either ban fur farming outright or introduce policy that requires fur farms to provide foxes with better living conditions. There's also the non-legislative solution, which is to eliminate the market by educating people about how the product is produced, thereby making it less appealing. As annoying and unethical as PETA is, their anti-fur campaigns have been very successful in reducing demand for real fur. Unfortunately, the public has switched to buying plastic-based faux fur, which sucks for the environment, but that's another can of worms.
If Mikayla wanted to help foxes, she could have canvassed for laws that reform or eliminate the industry. She could have found work with a real sanctuary or one of the government entities whose job it is to protect wild animals. She could have used her social media skills to campaign against fur farming without the added piece of personally acquiring foxes. But Mikayla didn't choose any of those options, because they did't involve having a bunch of foxes she could play with and use for clout on social media. You can be an exotic pet owner or an animal rights activist, but you want be both. She wanted to have it both ways.
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>>2131081the thing is, its presented as "reddit makes woman kill herself" and everybody hates redditors way too much not to immediately make up their mind.
And truly, the trannies leading the charge on reddit are also really gross furry zoophiles. She looks like an angel in comparison. So lesson learned, if you have
valid gripes don't let redditors get involved, you inmediatly loose the optics battle.
(sage your shit) No. 2131477
>>2131437It just does not look great that one of the most attention catching point against her was her OF shoots, which seem like a nothing burguer to me, and then finding the most active snark users were a bunch of perv furries, zoofiles, and genderspecials in their late teens.
I mean, from an outsiders perspective even if she made mistakes and was BPD it doesn't seem like she was a net negative since at least she made people care more about foxes.
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I grabbed some screenshots from Kiwi Farms. Here's some stuff from her OF.
>>2130938The only difference between martyrdom and suicide is
press coverage. Her husband coming out with that video despite not supposedly having the approval from the board set the tone. Journalists ran with it because at surface level it looks like an attractive woman who cared so much about animals trying to do some good in this harsh world died because the weight of harassment was too much, more focusing on the online despite her husband stating the louder voices being people in her real life. A modern day tragedy. This became the narrative. Whatever is written first is what people will remember. It doesn't matter that there's more to the story. Don't kid yourself if you think the journalists didn't know this would happen. They don't care nor do they care about what is true, they want the clicks and views as they want revenue. This was a perfect storm to get those clicks and views. The damage is already done. The whole story probably won't come out but enough it will to get a better picture. It's incredibly frustrating in the meantime.
>>2131073>assuming she's an angel just because they want to put their penises in her.Certified man moment. You can tell the ones that let their dicks dictate their thought processes. It's hilarious because people were posting links to that thread which contained screenshots. They chose not to look and decided based on how she looked that it must be true she was bullied by the redditors. It's irritating because these same people that tout people need to look into things before deciding but then do the same things they accuse others of. Fucking hypocrites. There's even a search function on the website.
>>2131437It more boils down to make sure the people you paint as targets have a certain reputation. There was apparently stuff on tumblr too. It's a clusterfuck with all the finger pointing.
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>>2131497According to the farms, this was her last fb post.
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>>2131326She did do zoo-adjacent porn at the very least. The demographic she pandered to was zoophiles
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>>2131210This got posted on the farms.
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>>2131507Her baby daughter in the background of her onlyfans post
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>>2131437>everybody hates redditors way too much not to immediately make up their mindI totally agree, her suicide has made me even more pissed at the circlejerk that is reddit. It's actually made me more sympathetic to both the troon and Mikayla. This is coming from someone that believes that all furries should be locked up, put in a pound, or at the mimimum tagged and tracked for their own safety. See the attached reddit thread
>"How dare you…">They dox the troon>They claim that law enforcement is on the caseReddit is worse than kiwifarms. Kiwifarms gets all kinds of shit, sometimes justifiable, for cyberbullying but redditors automatically get into a herd mentality that Mikayla was a saint and the troon should be locked up. They are allowed to dox the troon because they are the "good guys" but if any other forum does it they should be shut down.
No. 2131545
>>2131514Nta but ocasionally, homosexual behavior in animals is correlated with DSDs or hormonal imbalances. There are other reasons it occurs, though. For instance, it's been speculated that bats engage in homosexual mating behaviors because it reduces intrasexual violence within the colony. That said, because foxes aren't domesticated, captivity can alter their behavior. For instance, the old alpha-beta-omega myth about wolves was born out of the fact that unrelated wolves in captivity will attempt to replicate the pack dynamic ordinarily created by parentage and seniority in the wild (i.e., there aren't actually "alphas," the wolves in charge are often just the parents of the "non-dominant" wolves). So, foxes in captivity, especially ones treated like house pets, may exhibit unusual behaviors. I'm not saying that's what's happening here, but it's worth taking into consideration.
I think it's absolutely possible that Mikayla saw a same-gender pair of foxes hanging out and decided to call them gay as a means of cashing in on pride month. But it's more likely that a pair of vixens were just sharing a territory because that's just something they sometimes do. Males generally do not tolerate each other, but adult females can sometimes share a territory. This is the case for lots of mammals; females can often cohabitate without killing each other, but adult males cannot. It doesn't necessarily mean that the inviduals at issue are "lesbians," it just means that they belong to the less retarded, less violent sex and are behaving accordingly.
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>>2131154>she is lightly implying they are from an accredited zoo by saying they are part of AZA/ZAA programs, which only accept animals from other accredited facilities for ambassadors.Idk about the jackals, but Fawzi came from Tree Top Exotics, a company that breeds and sells exotic pets, including lemurs and spider monkeys. What do you think is more likely, that an "accredited" zoo handed off a pair of jackals to be kept as housepets, or that two people with an established pattern of buying exotic pets from shady breeders did that exact thing again? Use Occam's razor.
No. 2131625
Is there any legitimate proof of harassment beyond redditors documenting a public figure (aka shit the internet does all the time)? This is just the Byuu situation with Kiwifarms but on reddit.
If it was something like her losing her job, it would make sense- but all of the problems she racked up so far seems self-inflicted.
>spending e-beg money for your charity on luxury cars>Onlyfans (people who donate the big bucks to animal shelters are rich grandmas/grandpas- advertising your butthole is the best way to lose said rich donors)>allegations of mistreatment from former employeesEven if you remove the animal mishaps, it stinks to high heaven.
>>2131600>>2131578People saying that her daughter lost her mum the moment she committed suicide, but in reality it was the moment she decided to Onlyfans herself.
And not bothering to put her infant out of her nsfw pictures- how people can feel bad for her at this point is beyond me.
No. 2131651
>>2131628I was fooled at first but the more SaF videos you watch the more it becomes clear that the place took on more animals than it could handle. And then a child on top of that…the poor kid was definitely not mom's first priority.
It becomes very clear now that we know when the daughter was in the background of a porn scene. That is incredibly irresponsible at best.
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>>2131628I mean that much is evident from the fact that she exposed her baby to god knows how many parasites and zoonotic diseases by raising it in the hillbilly menagerie she called a house. The fucking retard let the kid stick her fingers in a fishercat's mouth, for fuck's sake.
>>2131651Not to be an edgelord, but I'm genuinely not sure which is worse, not having a mom at all, or having a BPD animal-hoarding "influencer" mom who posts her tits for money. Poor kid.