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For all the attention seekers, grifters and other assorted idiots in the alternative community
Most recent cows:
-Jake Munro, extremely unoriginal "musician", after his Casey Neistat imitation vlogs didn't take off he got famous from doing TikTok react videos. Known for copying the aesthetics of many musicians such as MM and Dir En Grey. Music is really unoriginal too, his most successful songs are covers. Has an obsessive cult fanbase of tweens and lonely middle aged women, calls himself "goth daddy" after saying all goths are cunts. Got his channel started by leeching off his gf, Kaya, then dumped her when he got famous enough
-ToxicTears (kaya), veteran youtuber, one of the OG "goths", used to get hundreds of thousands of views but her channel has dwindled, now she constantly makes excuses not to film and when she does it's usually an unboxing or a Q&A or GRWM. Has been pretty active on TikTok lately
-Kat Paine, married tattoo artist who Jake cheated on Kaya with, has a kid
-Jude Bishop, OF thot and ddlg pedo-pandering pickme who is also "goth", has her own thread but crosses over here too, publicly thirsts for Jake
-ItsBlackFriday (freyja), goth youtuber, country hopper, terrible planner
-Psychara, witchy instagoth who fries her hair
-Of Herbs and Altars (Dorian), alt youtuber who does videos on her ana and drugs past, believes she can fuck ghosts
-Adora BatBrat, instagoth who likes posting provocative stuff for shock value
-Ruadhan, youtuber, rambling shit stirrer
…and other cows who are discussed but not necessarily producing significant or frequent milk
Some highlights from the last thread:
>Kat makes her debut on Jake's channel of a vlog of them walking around Barcelona and just going to random places smoking and getting drunk >>1540053>Anon takes one for the team and pays for Jake's OF, turns out him and Kat did not release any hardcore porn, just a picture of him grabbing her ass while awkwardly looking into the camera >>1537697 and this one >>1537700>Jake's views before the breakup averaged around 100k per video, but now he's lucky if they get 30k. Still doing TikTok react videos >>1526042 even though months ago he said he wouldn't do them anymore>Kaya finally moves into a new house >>1525166>After the news comes out that Kaya has moved into a new place, Jake begins smearing her name and saying he could have been "an actual asshole" (whatever that means) >>1525853>Reilly, formerly an obsessive trans fan of Jake who liked to call him Daddy has now done a 180 and stans Kaya >>1527687>Kaya's mom hates Jake (understandably so) >>1531894>Angela gets in deep shit with the trans community because she mentioned Kai Decadence in a video 4 years ago and they start harassing her over it. So she made a video publicly declaring that she unfriended Kai and supports trans rights. The video got criticism because she didn't seem to understand what "terf" actually meant, among other things >>1522377>She took down the video and backpedaled >>1523278 and did a 7 hour livestream >>1523343 clarifying her views, tried to give a neutral stance about "I support trans rights but I support women too", made a bunch of strawmans without actually addressing any of the serious criticisms of the trans movement, then whined on Twitter about cancel culture >>1523348 despite happy disowning people in the past over "problematic" views >Jude still being extremely trashy and unlikable, released a rant on her IG stories about how people who criticize influencers are mean >>1532621 and tells people with depression to just "go outside" >>1532796
Last thread >>>/snow/1519148
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Only 6 days and 61% funded. Also has lost 11,000 followers since the break up on Instagram.
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Also have no idea what makeship was so sage for being a retard and anyone else that was confused. So embarrassing to have to refund all these people. Huge hit to the ego.
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Basic gifts for a basic bitch. She is so easily impressed lol.
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The town bike has absolutely no seat. LOL
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Why still gaming? Wouldn't the snaccs who still watch him also watch him just drinking?
They look in slightly better condition than his last paltry floral offering. Looks like he progressed from the service station reduced bunch to a supermarket bunch.
So much time invested in thinking up a thoughtful love gift.
Hes way too much of a toxic
gamer for FFXIV. Hes more of a WOW type of guy.
No doubt hes going to shit on most of the game while ignoring mechanics. As well as just skip the plot. (The most important part of the game)
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Came up in my Facebook. Yikes.
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Cant wait too see if fake will react since he still follows kaya on insta
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Caught yourself a real winner Kat. It's really just a matter of which one of them will cheat first between him and kat.>>1549228>>1549253>>1549516
I know the plushie updates are a bit tired at this point, but there's only 4 days left to go now and he's still only at 64% funded. He'll likely have to buy 50 or more of the plushies himself if he wanted to make the goal in time, which would roughly cost him around 2k. Hardly worth it. but would be hilariously sad if he did so.
On that note, here's a few of my favorite usernames of "snaccs" that bought plushies. It's as you'd expect.
He should of sold them during or at his next tour. People at concerts eat that shit up.
Not that I would buy this plush but it’s so basic compared to the last one he could of made it so much better
Or at least marketed it better
It not a bad plush it just lacks a lot
She posted it today. This morning at 10 uk time.>>1550857
My thought as well. Being togheter for 10 years and knowing what he did i dont thinks it was the first time.
Also if you consider the statments of kayas mother.>>1550861
She said in a QA a while ago she doenst follow our look up anthing about him. So i hope she didnt see it. Going through a narc relationship is enough trauma to deal with.
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Confirmation that he’s cheated at least once before.
Seems like confirmation he cheated with Kat, and also one time in the past she was aware of, I don't think it has been confirmed before now
Jake narc rage incoming…>>1550875
Ah I feel bad for her, definitely a response to the ongoing shit with Jake and Kat then
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But I thought Kaya messed up Fakes new house? And it's because of her that everything was so messy and dirty?
Fake turning out to be a serial cheater and a pig. No surprise. Hope he sees all this and flips out again on his socials kek
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Had to find the story to upload here, Kaya posts a lott of stories huh
The harrowed expression is just for a moment though one story she posted mentioned her feeling anxious today
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Samefag, some stories of note, the anxiety:
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Interesting point about Jake loudly streaming while she tries to sleep
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This is the only thing he's said in the past 24 hours
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Speaking of the plush, I went to check if he made any more sales and the campaign’s deadline was apparently extended, the fear that he wouldn’t be able to get the thing produced and give refunds must have been real lmao
remember how Jake flirted shamelessly with that short, stocky, American, pink haired girl who they kept meeting up with and her goth room mate for vlogs and stuff, like 5 years ago? I think she had an OF too. I wonder if he at least tried to hook up with her. they all seemed to just stop talking completely.
he seemed to be into her and excited to film with her more than anyone I've ever seen him on camera with, including kat, and they had a flirty back and forth banter. it always gave me an icky feeling and kaya looked miserable in the vlogs like, "ugh I'm going to have to watch them flirt and record it so it's there forever" like holding back tears and trying to distract with the Harry Potter Hufflepuff stuff, going out to eat too much food, and purchasing Japanese trinkets.
She said "a bunch of times' which feels like she's insinuating there were others or that the ordeal with kat has been a long time ordeal. Wouldn't doubt if it began around the time they did that pool video tbh.
Realistically though if he's cheated before early on and cheated again more recently, he's been cheating all along. He clearly doesn't give a fuck.>>1551412
How long has this campaign been? Did they give him more than the allotted 21 days? I wonder if they allowed this for all the other recent campaigns or if he contacted them throwing some kind of hissy fit. Still pretty pathetic that he's barely going to make it to his measly 200 sold goal while his first campaign was overfunded and sold over 900. The decline is well deserved.
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"years ago" could be in the time frame of 12 years or not. Sounds more like not more than 12 years ago for me, but who knows…
it's so cringe that a fucking grown ass person is posting this "im 14 and this is deep" kind of tweets, grown the fuck up man!>>1551544
agreed! sadly i relate heavily to what she went through and her behaviour in response then. being in a relationship like that strips you of all your confidence, energy and even the will to live.
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it looks so bad i cant stop laughing
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SO true. What I will say is that Kelly’s energy in those videos was the same as it was with most people during that time. She really pushed the “extrovert influencer I love my friends I’m so full of energy tee hee” attitude to the limit on cam. It is possible that she was so sure that Jake and Kaya were a solid couple that she wasn’t worried about it being misread as genuine chemistry. Just my tinfoil. He, however, was giving genuine simp and blatantly ignoring Kaya the whole time, which is hilarious because Kelly has equal measure of mental illness and fatigue issues. >>1550920
Now a lot of her compulsive need to nest and buy useless shit makes even more sense. When someone is so openly negative and disrespectful about things that make you happy it’s exhausting. I genuinely wonder if Kaya would be more motivated if she’d had a supportive and invested partner instead of a dude who’s been completely checked out since they were about 24. Even little things like saying “okay, the call centre job is stressing you out, but I feel too pressured to support us both, so can we think of a job that would suit you?”. I know I’m being majorly autistic here but it’s very milky to reflect on their relationship now all this has come to light.
Thanks for the laugh, nonnie
Fake never stood a chance with Kelly, but he's delusional enough to think he did. Her energy in those videos was just typical Kelly, as >>1552369
I remember Kelly uploaded a video sometime later where she "accidentally" made a typo in the title where it said "toxtic influencers" or something and another video about a Colorado local weirdo man (something like "he looks like this every day!) which seemed to be a jab at Fake and his lame makeup, so I think that friendship is long over. (Kelly deleted all her videos but it was within the next year or less since they met, iirc)
I rewatched the one where they are in target. I can see Kelly just having that type of ham personality on camera, not necessarily flirting with Jake, but Jake being a creeper with an overinflated ego probably read into it deeper.
in that vid, he kept saying "Kelly digs my set up!" then when she says "lets visit barbie!" he says in this soft breathy baby voice he used to speak to kaya in her earliest uploads of the two of them, "let's find barbie." then they cracked that disgusting joke about the My Little Pony being a vibrator and he says in his same "flirt" voice, "I can tell you what you can do with that tail."
in the same video there's him calling Kelly tiny, saying she got kidnapped and someone put her in their pocket, and then in the parking lot he says, "Kelly is looking cute and hardcore," with her baseball bat. it was clear he had a crush.
Kaya's uncomfortable, nearly joyless energy makes even more sense given that he had cheated before yet he still feels comfortable flirting with girls in front of her (and the world). it's not just the jealousy and betrayal, but it's embarrassing. he should be protecting her integrity by not salivating at another girl publicly. what a shit stain. I hope he makes Kat just as (un)happy once he gets bored of fucking the same person after a bit, and his ego is stroked by something else bright and shiny. knowing Kat has similar tendencies to fall for someone else while in a relationship is pretty sweet, though.
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Jake is the messy asshole confirmed
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Fake's in Berlin for a gig of K's Band. It's a bit strange to read K and him on how awesome it's gonna be since Berlin is all over the news here.
Someone desided to drive a bus in to a school class.
Im more intrested in how he managed to get there, considering everything is going on strike in the uk? Atleast a lot of flights and rail and subway and stuff. Guess traveling from dublin might make it easier.
Also rammstein is playing 2 shows in berlin this weekend. We think hes gonna try to get in there, or is he to goff for that stuff?
I asked if fake was to goff for that. In no shape or form was thst a claim rammstein being goth, but considering its a hype band and that is playing some form of industial metal thing, i can see it go 3 ways:
1) fake cant get ticket, moans about it
2) fake cant get a ticket, explains he is to goth for that shit / didnt wanna se them anywsy / claims to not know them
3) gets a ticket and the bestest goffiest gig ever.
To be fair this news broke like 2 hours ago and it’ll take a while for everyone to hear about it If they’re not a local.
Especially us burgers, we literally had 10 mass shootings just this past weekend. I had to go searching for this story, it’s not on any headlines right now.
Anyway, back on topic, I hope Fake has a miserable time in Germany either way
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I'm in the same time zone as Berlin. 30 mins ago he posted this sad clip. Everyone from the bands all went to "bed". Hes all alone wandering in Berlin. He saw K for like 3 hours and she left him there bwahaha.
I also did not realise K was a tif and she cut her tits off. That makes the band name Matriarch even more hilarious and sad at the same time.
Yeah her lips are one of her nicer features. Now she just looks extra beady eyed and chinless.>>1553652
kek. Where's kat? She's lucky all his "snaccs" are either troons or the elderly, I bet he wouldn't be alone for the night for very long otherwise. Dude looks so sad.
seriously, he pushed away all the young girls who used to love him. even if he were a stand up guy who didn't want "pussy," it caused his career to suffer as no one likes him anymore.
he should have pretended to have emotions about breaking up with a long term girlfriend, shouldn't have made cringey only fan porn, should have kept his homewrecker ho girlfriend a secret from fans, should have stayed true to the aesthetic that made him popular. people liked the painted up goth daddy manson/joker wannabe. no one is going to try to have a flirt with the aging alt alcoholic chav with a 35 yr old girlfriend and kid. it's easy to be a 'cool gf' and 'loyal bf' when no one wants his ass!
even the troons are loving him less and less. nice work Fake and Skat, couple goals.
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K went to bed early so they could get up at 7am to do photography and spend no time with fake? Also K didn’t post anything about Jake on any social media.
I am no fan of Fake but you all are just ridiculous again. If you go somewhere for a music show or vacation you don't check the newspapers of the place you are going. You are in fucking limbo. You all sound like you never go out your front door.>>1554486
That feels so wrong to be so self obsessed to take your own picture at the holocaust memorial and not even mention where you are. Yikes
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Welp at least K geotagged it, don’t know if it was there before though.
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Spotted: Fake in the wild.(lolcow.farm/info)
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Comments under his latest reaction vid, where he triggers his Misophonie. To be fair - I've misophonia myself and it is a struggle for real not to bother those who live with you too much. But I can only imaging how he bothered toxic tears about it since his self control is zero.
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Apparently punkrave posted the same picture of fake again, wonder if he bitched to them about deleting it.
This is the only comment on it so far tho
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The audio goes "You're taller how f dare u"
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Kat, your OF posts average 6 likes each. Even WITH the advertising help from Jake. When I was doing OF, I had no help or advertisement (especially from someone with an already established large fanbase) and my pictures would get 5 times the likes as yours. Nobody wants to get off to your scrawny ass. Give up and go back to being a mom.
>>1556208>When I was doing OF
The absolute state of lolcow.
One whore shaming another, pot calling the kettle black. You're both trash.
Good grief. This place really is going down the toilet.>>1556231>sex repulsed
Yes my disgust with town bikes showing off every orifice they have on the internet for pennies must mean I'm sex repulsed. Sharp as a fucking cue ball.
nta but>if you're sex repulsed
Black and white thinker, I see? You're either sex repulsed and clutching your rosary, or you're winking your asshole at any man with $2 to spend, there is no grey area /s>>1556208
She reminds me a little of Jeffree Starr here. It's kinda sad how women convince themselves they are "models" shooting content when they are, well, not models. It's a strange sort of insecurity from women who could never be actual models to become "porn stars" with 50 followers. Can't wait until this trend is well and truly over.
. Better to kneel for a quickie than to kneel for Christ.
Samefagging doesn't make your epic clapback where you unironically use the phrase "lol triggered
" any funnier.
>>1556208>When i was doing OF
Fucking hell girl that's not something to boast about that you showed your cooch online for 5$. Shaming a woman for doing the exact same retarded shit is kind of hypocritical don't you think?
On topic though, in this pic Kat looks like a drag queen. Also she could not wait before the dude got out of the shot, slide those hairpins to the side or just avoid to picture the dirt under the mirror kek Sloppy Kat.
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Taking bets on how long it takes for the photo be to be taken down again
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A month since she moved into the house and no video, no video of opening all of the free shit she got and she's making excuses about not streaming yet because she hasn't finished painting the room yet. Old Kaya is slowly creeping back!
You don't think reducing your self worth to 5$ of cum material for scrotes, financing a platform owned by a man who sold passwords for childporn and bestiality porn and who started the site like a fucking ponzi scheme for porn actresses, is bad? Really nonnie
She's done a Spooky Box and a Q&A video hardly groundbreaking.
TikToks aren't youtube videos she's had plenty of content to film vlogs yet nothing.
said. He never cared about Goth sucbulture, he made it known that he though Goth music sounded like shit. It's interesting really, he thinks it sounds like shit and Kaya just doesn't like it but back on Jake, you shouldn't take his whole "Goth reacts" name literally because he's never been a Goth period, he just uses it for clickbait.>>1553449
I feel like he probably does (or did) listen to Rammstein, they were pretty popular back in the day when Nu Metal was slowly waning from the mainstream and we saw some Industrial Rock and Metal bands getting some slight recognition in the mainstream radio.
that $7 aliexpress halo crown. lmao>>1556208>>1556227>>1556231>>1556242>>1556291>>1556296>>1556375>>1556389>>1556446>>1556452>>1556454>>1556457>>1556462
Thank you "I'm not a whore" anon for the derail. Truly.>>1556495>>1556501>>1556512>>1556515
I don't think anyone should be expecting her easing back into YT to be "groundbreaking" by any means. Would definitely like to see her post more creative videos, but at least she's back to doing something I guess? In comparison Jake didn't have to live in warehouse, didn't have to find new housing, and didn't have to deal with a parent having cancer, etc. all at once. Yet the guy STILL isn't doing anything more than the occasional "goth reacts" videos and same tired old gaming livestream. If she still hasn't got back into it in another six months or so I'll feel open to being a lot more critical though.
Nta but chill. You don't know her financial situation or anything like that or if she lives in a third world country, plus a lot of women have been brainwashed into the "sex work is totally empowering!!" mindset as of late.>>1556280>women who could never be actual models
Becoming a model has little to do with looks, it is mostly nepotism. Look at Cara Delevingne and Bella Hadid.>>1556208
Is this for her OF though? I think she has some non OF modelling on her Instagram
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So.. IBF has covid
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She does look a little reminiscent of Jeffree Starr there. Kind of like how she straight up looks like Sharron Needles in this one. I don't even think Kat is ugly, but the heavy dark make-up certainly doesn't do her any favors.
Kinda funny how it's the same top/headdress too.>>1556977
lmao, are you a snacc? Learn to sage.
How should I know she is ironic?
I've been ill for 2 years after contracting corona. So stop telling me I'm being dramatic
No one is obligated to give a fuck about
- what make up fake would better wear
- what friends he'd better make
- what lighting he'd better choose for an advertising photo
And you decide that exactly this is a nitpick, stfu….
It wasn't even just the song part, she starts out the video saying saying how she's been having "PHENOMENALLY bad luck" and feels like she's been cursed. Then she goes "I'm gonna sing it in a song because it feels less negative and more fun". Then she bitches about not being a German anymore, and most of the stuff she whines about in the song are things caused by her own bad decision making, like having to repaint the apartment in Germany that she painted black.
Suddenly remembering why I hate this bitch.
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Jake is down more subs on both YT and patreon. His income from both has been halved since just last month as well. He's likely making less than 2k off both of them at the moment.
He better start pushing that plushie funding a lot harder. He only has a few days left after the extra 10 day extension they so kindly gave him and it STILL isn't funded. Kat boarded a sinking ship. lmao
Yeah cause no one wants to watch a grown man react to tiktok for like the 100 time it gets boring after 5 videos I’m sure he sick of it to
There so many ways he could redeem himself and refresh his channel
One of the other great fuckeries of Jake Munro is that some of his most popular videos are either the ones with his ex girlfriend in them or the tik tok reaction videos that he clearly hates and resents having to do. He spends so much of that airtime shitting on tik tok as a platform and the people using it.
The man should be praising Tik Tok and the tik tok teens he routinely bullies and talks down: they literally pay his wages. Him reacting to cringe is incredibly ironic given he's the most cringe creature skulking about in that corner of YouTube, he's completely gormless, zero self awareness. Genuinely unpleasant to watch
She looks real … Midwestern.
Real Cornpone here.
I'd say Kat helped sink the ship. no one wants to see their hard earned money go to buying shit for her. she is a cheating, vain, insta/onlyfans ewhore, not a cute quirky goff girl or anything endearing. he had some very generous fan girlies (ok more like aging moms next door) and troons who would line his pockets as long as he took kindly to their heavy flirting. they probably feel like he dumped their parasocial relationship for Kat and now they hate her. they really should hate him, though. but whatever the case, it is affecting him which is sweet.
the best thing he could do if he is serious about his intentions is to get a job off of social media and go be with Kat in privacy. it would really make a statement that she is worth the trade off for less attention, less fame, shifting his priorities, stepping up and being a man instead of a vain clown, and having to earn money the traditional way instead of e-begging as a tag team with her. she is a different person, not the new Kaya. he should try something different with her that is not porn.
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1 sold in the last 24 hours. Will he buy the rest to fund it in time?
I mean he still has a chance to change this but knowing him he wouldn’t.
He really needs to sit back and think of ways of regaining his fans back before their all gone
It's still sitting at 160 sold 11 hours later. I think it's safe to say this isn't getting funded without him paying for the rest. Lmao>>1560643
Seriously, almost all of them jumped ship. Dude can't even sell 200 plushies in a 31 day span. The last one sold 902, 451% funded within the originally allotted 21 days. I wonder how much longer he has until he's broke. I imagine we'll see some downsizing/life changes coming I the not too distant future.
Keeping his new relationship quiet would have been smart, since all Kat’s presence does is remind people how lame and fake he really is. She isn’t controversial enough to be massively accelerating his downfall; she merely adds nothing. For all her faults, Kaya had a unique style and a fun personality. Why try to introduce a new girlfriend into your content when you’ve both been publicly outed as cheaters and she isn’t even half as likable as your famous and popular ex? Just because Jake is excited to finally be fucking the basic alt ewhore of his dreams doesn’t mean anyone else gives a shit.
He could have handled the breakup like a decent person. He could have put his personal life on lockdown, focused on creating more interesting content, and built a new audience that doesn’t rely largely on Kaya’s success. But instead he decides to alienate whatever fans he had left by making cringey porn and confirming everyone’s suspicions that he’s a massive asshole with zero talent.
For someone who has openly and actively bragged about being such a great vlogger, he has zero understanding of any kind of PR or content marketing or self-image. He clearly thought that that one video where he first mentioned the breakup would gaslight Kaya into not being able to say anything. >>1560031
This is so right, but either he’s incapable of pretending to be a nice guy for that long, or the new people around him like Kat would be like “wtf you’re so different on cam” kek. Both Jake and Kaya’s tutorial/lifestyle content slipped years ago so I honestly think the people watching them are fatties and autists who want to feel like they’re chatting with a friend, not because they want to look up to the same type of gymbro douchebag who bullied them in high school.
It’s so weird that he feels so entitled to being his “true self” and f u if you don’t like it, while at the same time doing loads of fake and cringey reaction content. The only reason he’s not done a 2016-style crying Youtuber apology is that they’re so cliche and too obviously manipulative.
Sage for major autism but tl;dr this man is so fucked kek.
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Sage for not much milk. Jazmin bean is mentioned here sometimes so I thought of posting this, apparently she's been on ket for 4 years. I'm glad she's gotten help for it and hope it works out, but how her mother didn't notice a 16 year old (she's 19 or 20 right now, minus 4) addicted to ket is beyond me
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Oh, huh. Explains the rapid weight loss.
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I've noticed it too. It's been nearly a month since he last updated his OF. Not sure what his twitter looks like as his tweets are protected. He was uploading to YT twice a week and it's now been six days of nothing. Haven't seen him posting any IG stories either, but I might be missing them as I don't check very regularly. Anyone know when he streamed last? It looks like he updated that two days ago at least.
I wonder if the punkrave post getting flooded with negative comments bruised his ego. On top of his plushie money grab failing, and being ditched by his bestie in Germany of course. It's funny because Kat has been quite active on her OF, but not anywhere else. Trouble in paradise maybe?
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35 comments and only one is pro-Jake, I genuinely hope he sees and reads them all. He did this entirely to himself, can't wait for his plushie to fail. I don't even think he bought his bikes did he? Is he not renting them? If he did buy them what an absolute waste of money, if I was a snacc and I saw how frivolously he was spunking all the money he gets up a wall I would be furious.
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He looks tired, haggard and sad. Where's the enthusiasm? Off on another trip without the gf, who's been doing photoshoots and OF posts all week. Maybe she's realizing he's a sinking ship and she wants off.
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k is off to LA today, so I guess she isn’t hanging out with Jake….awkward
I think this is the same anon from last thread that judged how goff someone was by their hair and makeup, and was saying music doesn’t matter. That’s why anon mentions somebody like Drac Makens (who even admitted it was just an aesthetic phase and whether she liked the music was questionable). >>1561980
If you’re so needy for new milk, why don’t you post some yourself instead of asking other anons to spoonfeed you it with all of these questions. This is an image board, so if you want to discuss whatever it is you’re talking about, post screenshot proof of it.
Did he just fly over there without checking she was free? He really has two friends, K and Kat, that's what you get for being a miserable ass and shitting on Belfast and everyone in it for ten years. Meanwhile Kaya posts herself having fun adventures with friends every day.
I was one of the people who never had an issue with Kaya and just an irrational hatred for Jake, the way this has all panned out has justified my views tremendously. Man needs to relocate and get a new personality imo
No gossip from this years wgt, but I can add that kids is not an uncommon sight at wgt. Somewhere between 5-10 is what you see most of (they even have a "day care" with some kids activities at the area with the main stage), but prams and totlers have been noted, so not many regulars would bet an eye.
If I remember right, there is now law in germany that gives you an age restriction of how young of a kid you can bring, as long as they wear the right kind of ear protection.
Nothing i would consider my self while at treffen, but not my choise to make eather.
It's less about the gf being codependent and more so about Jake obviously being so. Also let's not pretend that kat is a great mother, she cheated on her husband/father of her child for her friend's long term boyfriend and bottomless long island iced teas. Jake better be careful she doesn't move onto the next best thing while he's overseas and bleeding clout/cash.>>1561980
Learn to integrate and sage "anon".
que "jake eating nuggies sad and alone' again. lmao
Wonder how long K plans to leave him alone. I imagine he can't go very long alone and always drinking. Who will cheat first? Jake or kat. Place your bets now nonnies.
Idk i was recently searching for her but i guess she decided the goth influencer life isn’t for her. Hope she’s doing better offline.
On the topic of Jake: isn’t it so weird he only has girl friends and seems to do nothing with guys? I always find it really weird when people hang out with the opposite sex aka „i rather hang out with guys because they’re less drama „
This is a reach tbh, Jake doesn't have a real job so he can go on holiday whenever he feels like it whereas Kat has to be around for tattoo clients.>>1562426
Maybe he's feeling the follower haemorrhage so badly that he needs to catsit for more successful youtubers for pocket money…
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Jake's plush campaign has less than 24 hours left. It barely gets any purchases for a week and then suddenly, in the last 12 hours, we're supposed to believe 5 people bought one? Maybe it's a tinfoil but does anyone think maybe he's paying people to get them?
or how many of us went from being rabid snaccs to sympathetic lovelies
tbh i stopped liking him long before he fucked kaya over for other reasons but, kaya was indifferent to me. now i sadly relate to her because i've been in her shoes and i know how hard it is to get out of a shitty and dangerous situation like hers. I'm rooting for her to get better and take control of her life after so many years of abuse from this narc manchild
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I wonder that, too.
He posted a reminder on twitter about half an hour ago, to no avail yet though lol
i found him through his older videos where he explained what it meant for him to be "different" and to not fit into society's expectations. in my eyes he was just like me because we are around the same age and i'm also "alt". I was in a rough spot in my life, i was coming out of an abusive
relationship and i felt lost, i had traded everything that made me "me" in order to fit into what i was supposed to be as an adult. he made me realize that it was ok to be myself fully, that i wasnt any less valuable than other people just because of my style or way of thinking. the cliche of "it's not just a phase" is very much true to me and i found him very relatable. i also found community through him, i still have a couple of very good friends i met on his original discord which i was very involved in.
i honestly thought he was a good person trying to be happy while being himself unapologetically, and he was also succeding in doing so; he gave me some sort of hope because if he can do it, so can I.
Now i know it was all a farce and that i fell, yet again, for the manipulation tactics of a narcissist, which is honestly the story of my life kek
I can see Kat cheating on any other alt guy with some clout or money. That’s all she was interested in Fake for, and now he has neither.
I could also see Fake buying prostitutes and cheating that way. I don’t think there’s many fans left that would want to have sex with him, except maybe Jude. He’s gotten even fuglier and doesn’t even wear the makeup anymore which is what fans liked in the first place.
If anybody were to cheat, it would be Kat. Fake knows he can’t do any better than her now.
Found jake randomly on YouTube. Found him funny, liked his slogan ‘I had a great day because I made it a great day’ (was in a downer at the time so I liked random positive quotes).
Recently his videos are very egotistical and he comes across as a cunt. Knowing what happened with kaya made his shitty attitude even more prevelant and difficult to deal with
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They sadly didn’t lol, it’s also still in his tagged photos
I actually fucking hate seeing people bring their kids to local hardcore shows. It’s so common place to see some 5yo at a show around here. I think it’s trashy. But then again, my first show was when I was 11 alone with my friend, so I guess it’s a bit hypocritical.
But a baby at a festival? I guess she can do whatever she wants, it’s her kid.
And is Suzi much of a cow? I’ve followed her for years and never really noticed if she is.
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I’m not surprised Jude has a new relationship as she apparently can’t live without being literally babied. But the language she’s used here, “partner” and I’ve been spending a lot of time with “them” stands out to me.
Doesn’t she only look for more “daddies”?
Perhaps shes trying to cash in on pride month and has started dating a troon to cover for her admission of only liking cocks.
Could be just tinfoil here but again none of that would surprise me.
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Looking like a kid who needs the bathroom.>>1563164
I saw that story and the "partner" and "they" got me wondering too. She has claimed to be bi in the past, but shown no interest in women, and in the many Q and As she does in place of real content she answers about relationships with the daddy shit.
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A little bit of snooping yielded this. In Jude's personal thread an anon mentioned that she revealed that wraithslostcity on insta is the new partner.
He really does look like a kid needing to pee!
I guess his “goth” days are over and he’s going back to the chav/Casey nishat look. I bet he will come out with a video saying his content is changing back to blogs or some crap
I was never a fan but I never disliked him either. I used to watch his vlogs but they became so repetitive for example it would be; going to town, washing my clothes, kaya gone one way I go the other, electric skateboard clip then a random drone clip.
It was the same thing every single week after a while. I liked the Japanese vlog he did because it was something interesting and different. But when he started doing tiktok yeah the first few were ok and different but again it became the same video every single week.
When I saw he did a few motorbike videos I was slightly pleased as I thought maybe he would start doing different content.
That’s my only issue with jake is he over does one thing way to much (same with kaya with Q&A/spookybox) if he had a variety of videos on his channel I would be more inclined to watch him as he content is watchable.
Again I liked his older content because it appears more ‘real’ version of him the newer videos are so ovs that it’s all a act. It’s clear the Chav jake is the real jake. Seeing his new video with Kat was kinda nice cause it like the old him. But he seams so depressed it’s really sad.
I doubt he regrets leaving kaya but I think there is a tang of regret around that situation (probably due to losing supporters/ damaged ego)
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An hour and a half to go and it’s not funded!
I see two possible reactions from him:
- trying to guilt-trip his snaccs afterwards
- never mention it the second after
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Awww, poor Fake, plushie campaign was a total failure….
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I don't like to dwell to much on other people's economic failures but this is tempting …
Different subject: this is where kaja celebrated her birthday, one of her favorite places in Belfast. I'm glad she still own her places, since fake had nothing better to do than dragging his new gf there (although Belfast "has no places to go", as he used to complain) and immediately posting pics on ig
Completely seriously, it's wonderful you felt inspired and seen via him even though, as we all can see now his "alternative" side is merely a costume to him for views and his statements don't extend to his real life.
But I think allowing people to feel seen is an important part of alternative influencers, I felt the same way about ItsBlackFriday when she did vlogs in Germany and abroad, and generally influencers who aren't afraid of dressing up and looking weird in public.
He probably could have really used however much he would have received as a cut from that 7k+ the plushie would have made if it were funded. He seems to be becoming even lazier lately like other anons have said, not following through with things, like the tour or promised videos, hasn't updated his social media hardly at all (Twitter bio still advertising his 2021 tour for example) and never putting on his dumb clown "goth" makeup that helped him get his following in the first place. His slow decline was somewhat inevitable post break-up, but it's almost like he's really doing all he can to speed up that decline. Just how much longer can he keep himself afloat with his measly YT and patreon funds from the same tired old "goth reacts" videos? We know he isn't really making shit off OF anymore. Has he even been making any bank live streaming lately? I'm sure he's been spending more than he's making at least this past month or two.
Also sorry anons if this is a word salad, I just had surgery and am still loopy on meds, lmao. It's just so funny to me that Jake seems to be on the road to making near the minimum wage out where I'm from. His current lifestyle definitely isn't sustainable off 2-4k a month.
Just watched IBF's video singing about her misfortunes. She already deleted it from the channel, btw. She obviously made this song to try to set the story straight and give her version of the story, but it's all we've been saying!
She basically had a lot of trouble and debt because she's dumb. Who the fuck moves ALL of their shit because of a job prospect? No, who sends furniture when moving countries ffs? I moved cross-country in very big country and had to sell most of my stuff because it's easier and cheaper to buy new (even used) stuff when you arrive, everyone I know sells their big things before a big move. Who paints every apartment they live entirely black as soon as they arrive? I have black rooms but I only painted the current one, which I'm planning on staying… deal with the white walls of your rental! She moves long distances but instead of starting again she creates a new problem leaving apartments or storages full of furniture. I just checked her instagram where she says she, mr owl and the baby are moving to Scotland and that she can't wait to see her flat there, filled with her stuff. Wait, what?! You're maintaining a whole second living place abroad? No wonder you're fucked. That's not how you move, at all! I can't believe she thinks this is normal, in fact, most people use the money from selling their stuff to help fund the move. The only thing she was truly unlucky about is her child having a health problem, but I didn't catch her singing about that, but I did tune out more and more towards the end, the song sucks.
The singing vid is still on her channel, it's right there.
And that was 2 YEARS AGO. Her announcement when she was pregnant was 9 months ago. So no, she couldn't sing about it…..
But going back, yeah so it seems she has had a flat somewhere in Scotland sitting for 2 years with all her stuff. A storage unit would have been cheaper eh?
Honestly, the whole all black apartment in Germany was a whole show to me. Like she created it to be the goffiest goff who ever goffed. To score big interweb goff points. By the time she finally did a tour, which that vid got a ton of views, she was already getting divorced and knew she was leaving. The place was already covered in dust, so she didn't even maintain it.
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Seems like it actually was just a phase.
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Did the artist delete the posts with his commissions and unfollow him? I'm not seeing him anywhere on her social media, looks like she washed her hands of him after the break up unless I'm somehow mistaken. Shame about her art being stuck on his merch still tho, she's pretty good.>>1564215
The larma is sweet ngl. I'm not even a kaya fan, but it's hard not to root for her at least a little bit because Jake is just so awful. All this time he's been making it out to be like she was mooching off HIS fame/success and yet here we are. kek
Oops. Karma* is sweet. >>1564223
Honestly surprised he was too cheap to buy the last 18 plushies needed to complete funding. He would have only had to drop like $600-$700 and still come out with a couple thousand in sales at least? Many supporters ended up buying multiples to try to get closer to the 200 mark goal too, he really let the last of his snaccs down tbh.>>1564226
Did Jake actually win any of their mutual friends in the divorce minus the obvious one, Kat? He only seems to have her and K now really. And even when he's trying to orbit their friend groups he seems mostly like an outsider/tag along.
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Did IBF go to Scotland after WGT? If so, must suck to be sick with no external familial support especially with a baby.
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Strange that he didn't bother tagging Kat in this, assuming that's what the picture is based on the caption. Unless he's grabbing his own ankles? Lol. Or unless he's grabbing someone else's ankles. He did post it while on vacation. Also, only 5 likes in a day compared to 80-90 when he started.
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Searching toxictears comes up with shit about Fake kek
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Jake is an ankle grabber? KEK. Unless he's referring to his faggy little fuckbuddy K. I know that it's generally agreed here that nobody thinks there's something between them but I've gotten some way different vibes. Jake likes some boyish women and he's just dykey looking enough for K to settle.
L M A O!!! I agree, I thought K was the other woman at first. the way he had to clarify that K dates women or something. that's the closest he'll ever get to "HOT GIRL ON GIRL ACTION" without having to take it up the ass himself. K seems petite unlike Kaya and Kat, but Jake likes no tits, flat asses, no hips, weird looking women, which K is. I think K is attractive to him in a way, the way she is androgynous and and a "metal singer" like him. and Jake looks a dyke who wants to talk to the manager.
but another thought, maybe he is queerbaiting for pride month.
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This is what codependency looks like lol. 3 days? The dude doesn't know how to be alone or else he loses all sense of his personality. That's why there was no downtime at all between his relationships.
Yeah I never thought of this as a "goth thread" neither, especially when most of the prominent ones with the exception of IBF aren't even goth anyway, I just took it as a dumping ground for all people alternative in general.
"Fakeya" are the only ones who are having drama. IBF is busy being a mom now and is not all that active anymore. Dorian is just there. And all the other ones don't tend to get involved in drama, the thing with Angela and Kai seemed more like a one off and even then, it wasn't really that bad per say since these two typically aren't involved in drama.
The most we have now are just "Fakeya" relationship aftermath and Kat. At least until a new one pops up or something. I feel like this is all in part because the alt side of YouTube is not as active as it used to be like in the early 2010s during the days of people like Leah Mouse and that one YouTuber who was known for scamming people out of money (I think he sold taxidermy?).
He seems to be posting old content rn? K is in California for an event and Jake is lonely at her home watching her cats. He did go out to a bar alone earlier for "lunch". Seems like the dude is always day drinking.
kek at "ankle grabber" though.>>1564472
Tbh it feels like goth is a dying subculture. Not a whole lot if new baby-bats to keep it going. I know basically every venue out where I live (one of the largest cities in the USA) has closed and we are lucky to get theme nights once a month elsewhere.>>1564492
Yeah honestly? She can still be kind of whiney and make excuses a lot, but it feels like now that Jake is out of her life she's getting back on track and seems so much more upbeat and positive? Meanwhile Jake seems so lonely, co-dependent, and uninspired. I don't doubt for a moment he dragged her down.>>1564456>>1564588
Jake looks more like an ugly TIM than an actual lesbian. Honestly think it's just his awful sense of style and weak jawline though. Random nitpick but Kat's face tattoo looks like hot garbage, wtf even is that doodle by her ear?
what an amazingly posed photo. i can only imagine that they held this pose for the picture then immediately got up and walked off.
and jake/skat we know you're reading these. everytime someone mentions something all of a sudden they suddenly post something relevant to that topic.
just say hi and stop hiding
What a pussywhipped fucking simp.>>1564591
I was wondering the same thing about the tattoo. What in the sharpie shit is that?>>1564602
Ikr, it's actually hilarious how performative their relationship is. And how they obviously post things in reaction to this thread.
what's also interesting is that since the break up and all the shit that went on, kaya has had no problems in doing the 'ask me anything' posts and giving out hints of what happened.
meanwhile fake has kept everything closed down and only responds to comments if he can try to make kaya look bad. clearly not brave enough to find out what people really think
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What's going on with Skats' toe. That's disgusting.
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That's one emotionless face. Not a love face. Deviod of feelings about anyone except themselves. The arm sticking out also adds to the lack of intimacy.
Did you get lost on your way to tiktok >>1564456
I mean he has no friends except K and Kat so he definitely knows how to be alone kek
Uh, people on tiktok don't use language like that. Tiktok would probably try to cancel you if you tried to say something like that there.
And obviously he can't be alone as in single or away from his gf for a moment because he's so codependent.
Obviously can be alone if he gone to America and Berlin alone >>1564724
Her foot looks like a photoshop fail it’s all morphed around the ankle too
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… talking of co-dependence…seems like Jake couldn't let Kaya do anything by herself
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I wonder how long until he hits the kid.
Oh c’mon! Are we really going to forget all the tweets and IG stories of her expressing how nervous and terrified she was learning to drive? She still gets uneasy on long trips or to unknown places.
Congrats to her! She mostly got over it and is self sufficient and can drive but it did take some time to get there. She could just share any tips with her stan instead of pretending she doesn’t understand their struggle.
Being one or two nights away from home for
a) a friend's concert & not coming up with something different than eating chicken mcnuggets sadly when said friend went to bed
b) oversees for an arkward three-day-stay to catsit
is not "being alone", cmon!
This is fucking insane. Imagine not being able to do something completely normal for your own daughter because her cancerous fifth limb would throw a shitfit if you didn’t do the same for him, the unrelated teenage/early 20s bf. If that’s what she’s really implying here (and not that her dad didn’t WANT to help her without helping Jake, which would be weird) their whole lives together sound exhausting. >>1565038
Normally I’d support this, because fuck family channels etc, but silence is exactly how he got to manipulate Kaya so badly. What’s the bet that Kat thinks “I won’t talk about my kid on the internet” but he’s secretly thinking “if she doesn’t talk I can get away with using him against her”.
Then you and I are probably I'm very different tiktok comment sections, some parts of it are as toxic
as twitter if not more so
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I love how kayas mum gives no fucks and just throws shade
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Plus kayas reaction in the comments lol
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When his toddler hands can't fit around your ankles
Really wish he would stop staring at the camera in these. Also him fully naked and her in full undies?
Oh my this is horrible. He always looks like he photoshopped his head on a picture but its a bit too big but naked its even worse. And why are Kat's feet so very pixelated what is going on there?
Thank you nonnie
for the laughs
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Thread pic follow up
"he'll be holding her ankles, he'll be pulling some awful look while staring directly at himself in the viewfinder. We will all be able to see his itchy pube stubble. He won't have bothered to look up the connotations of "ankle grabber" because he never thinks or researches any of the stupid shit he says. There, I saved you and myself 35 bucks a month."
I feel like I pretty accurately predicted exactly what that mess would look like
Seriously, you're prediction was what came immediately to my mind, when I saw the pic, nonnie
… but "I never heard of Jeffrey Star before" …! >>1565262
Is that really Kaya making fun of his always grouchy face? the pic is funny>>1565417
Absolutely second this as follow up thread pic. Apart of that the original OF-pic is nothing but gross. Since he probably lurks here, maybe he gets at least that the dead stare to the camera is the creepy icing on a horrible cake.
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Meanwhile, Kat is actually working instead of joining fake.
This is all sorts of bad.
A thank you Nonna for paying for this awful trash. I hope you get a refund every month!
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reminds me of when they would have blue lit public toilets so junkies wouldn't shoot up in there. Very classy Jake.
Saged for blogposting but I also had a narcissistic boyfriend who hated when I would get things FROM MY FAMILY and he wouldn’t get something also, be it small things like ice cream or bigger investments like a phone or what have you.
So if Jake is anything like my POS ex I can totally see why Kaya would put off getting her license as to not upset him or get in an argument, it’s by far not as outlandish as it may seem, at least to me.
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Not Raven posting here. Knowing Emily is a “dirty bitch” really makes me feel nauseous seeing this pic.
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The shadow of the phone can't help but make me think that Kat is holding it like picrel
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Jake, you've left a big enough digital footprint for everyone to see plenty. You retarded asshole.
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From Kayas mom under her new video. Jake made Kaya throw all her stuff out.
Her mum is so cute, that's bizarre Jake made some random rule "new stuff for a new house" especially if the timeline of his suspected cheating lines up with the move, like he got her to throw out her stuff knowing
he was going to kick her out.
anon's phrasing of take care of your kid
when Kaya is a fully grown adult gives away who it might be tbqh.
I’m sorry? Is there a cap on cows? We can only have two?
Kaya’s mum says it herself: she’s inept at adulting. If you see it as a sign she’s been a competent mum, then that’s on you.
ayrt, I don't doubt it in the least but you tend to get yelled at on lolcow in some threads if you don't have "proof" so all we can go on is Kaya's IG stories where she referenced cheaters etc, we don't know an exact timeline. For sure it was going on longer than a month, logically. >He probably told her to get rid of her stuff so he could put her outside at night with a suitcase and be done with it the weaselly coward.
Yes I'm sure it was this, he wanted a nice quick changeover.
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Boohoo bitch, the pressure must be getting to him
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He’s grown and educated himself, like, since he’s fucking a horse faced bitch with a kid? lmao
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Sure seems like he was having a blast when the next best thing is throwing a fit on the internet after getting “home”, also pretty sure he has no idea that friends and acquaintances aren’t the same thing.
Kek you chose to be an "influencer" and a YouTuber, Fake. You're a clown, with the makeup to boot, dancing for the amusement of others online. It's your job to be pleasant, and you started off your channel with fake positivity and a tagline, so of course fans are going to be shocked when you're hostile. Don't bite the hand that feeds you.>>1566372
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kek. the meltdowns are already beginning. It's honestly kind of impressive just how quickly his decline has been.
>>1566368>I was talking about my upbringing where I was hit, wanna make a video about that?
Why don't you quit the public tantrum and make it, Fake. Some people think abuse is fine since they were abused, and while it's a way of coping, it's shitty and a video on it from someone who used to think that could be interesting. To me, anyway, I was hit as a kid too. But mindless tiktok reacts are sooo much better…>>1566372>I felt like breaking character for a bit
Keep telling yourself that, whiny and wannabe edgy is your character. Your real character, not the literal characters you play via skinwalking, apart from your anger issues you seem to not know who you are.
Is it really breaking character if you are an asshole 100% of the time? >>1566488
It's a good video idea, like maybe address some of the issues raised by viewers in recent months for a start, rather than lashing out at anyone who questions him.
He needs to make some videos that are actually honest (Youtuber honest, I feel Youtube viewers tend to be pretty bad at spotting manipulative men, which is why so many terrible men get a following there, but they still need to put some
effort in to keep up the facade) and show some semblance of kindness or personality, he has lost so much goodwill, evidenced by 90% drop in interest in both his OF and his recent failed plushie fund. He can double down and keep hemorrhaging followers and fans or he can make a change
(some free advice for you there Jake)
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Friends? Friend, singular. He went with K.
does he realize that no-one other than his followers is gonna see this because his tweets are protected?
Or is it intentional - he can say what he likes because the person tweeting it isn't going to see it and he's just putting on a display for his followers.
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what positives lmao
lol Jake with his narc logic! everyone else is the problem. not being an asshole to your fans is just too high of an expectation to have of someone. it's setting too high of standards for a human being to expect them to not call people "dumb bitches" online, or to not tell everyone to "fuck off." avoiding cheating with a married woman who has a child and to not throw your ex out, instead of breaking up with them before you decide to move on is having too high of expectations. expecting someone not to condone abuse on their YouTube channel is just too high of an expectation, how dare we hold you accountable for the shit you say.
wow. dude needs therapy. it's not too high of expectations for you to bring down your urges to be shitty to others! most adults learn that you need to respect others, have self control, and act with integrity and honesty. not Jake, though, his toxic
behavior is "your problem." fucking idiot. maybe it's just the booze killing his brain cells and deluding him. it's a bad mix with NPD because he already feels entitled to not have to follow the same rules as others.
Kek! What positives?! Seriously though, what positives?
Punching walls? Drinking excessively? Cheating? Bullying kids on tiktok? Bulling people in general? Skinwalking? Lying? Smoking? Thinking he’s a porn star? Pushing his porn on to minors? There’s more but all these things are solely his content and personality! It’s all he’s ever shown
Way to get more people to hate you omg. He could of just said sorry but you don’t know me in real life or just deleted the comment but no
He had to add fuel to the fire. This is hilarious
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Kaya spilling a bit tea
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Instant post that not only one, but at least with two other persons (K's gf). "I have frens!!!"
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Re: “I educated myself” - in response to someone saying there’s no cure for being a hater he posted a gif from Drag Race where Ru is slapping someone, so he’s apparently still not completely opposed to pHySiCaL eDuCaTiOn lol
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Honestly I’m loving the subtle digs and I really hope he’s getting wound up by it.
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saged since it's not quite milk and we all know he's a narc anyway, but this was in Kaya's likes. I genuinely feel for her.
How long? Anon, it's already started. Calling women "dumb bitch", making insane tweets like this >>1566366
, the entire state of his Onlyfans… his downward spiral is already in full swing.
I don’t throw this term around lightly, this is just straight up gaslighting. >>1566639
is right, sorry but as any kind of INFLUENCER using your INFLUENCE positively and not being a dick is literally part of your job description. Clapping back at real douchebags is one thing but imagine if celebrities started screaming at every kid in their comments section. It is crazy just how little he’s capable of admitting he might be the slightest wrong or bad.
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And the hits keep coming for fake
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Aaaaand here it is
Wondering how long the daddy thing would take
Kayas mom is so wholesome. I kinda love her, sorry not sorry>>1566366
I’ve rarely seen someone shoot them selves in the foot so many times, so quickly. Just keep being your true self Fakey boy. Kiss your $$& goodbye. I love to see it. >>1566497
Fake also had to cross an ocean and visit a different continent to find someone willing to hang out with him briefly
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Ew she definitely settled. Someone tell him to shave the beard for Jude.
>>1567208>He did mention he had a lawyer so I think she legally can’t say anything about him.
Man can't afford a lawyer with how much his fanbase has dropped, and stalking her stories well after the breakup is definitely a healthy thing for a #thriving person to be doing if he is. There's no legal reason why someone can't post vaguely about someone else to say mild things like I'm over it
or the house isn't messy now and things don't get broken,
but Jake is so terrified of her speaking up he's probably shitting bricks at every slight mention.
You know, the really funny thing is if Kaya DID spill the tea, we’d probably find the reality somewhat tame in comparison to the jackassery we all imagine he gets up to. If he’d just shut the fuck up and stop trying to control literally everyone and just let the pieces fall, I think we’d all get bored and move on pretty quickly. Then he could maybe relax and stop scouring the internet for any vague reference to his boring ass potato face midget man self.
But he’s his own worst enemy. So just keep it going, Jake.
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He is unbearably cringe, baby girl, the carpenters.. ick
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Where does Kaya get off kinkshaming ddlg but literally has her mons pierced? LOL
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This topic isn't milk but I'm amazed at how Angela is defending goth gatekeeping (rightfully imho) in her latest video using this rethoric and then she's completely blind to the troon menace.
Goth gatekeeping is fucking dumb. None of them dress like the 80's goths and that pretty straight long hair certainly was not part of the equation. None of them listen to actual old school goth. You're not a freak embracing darkness you're a walking 90's vamp goth cliché on youtube wearing pink eye shadow. And thats fine. Most original goths no longer dress goth or toned it down but still listen to goth music.And some people look goth and love the aesthetics but don't like the music. It's fine. Like chill.
The Goth scene is dead, it died 2 decades ago. What's left is just a party. Don't take it so seriously, the early goths didn't take it all that serious either. I was there, in that time in Europe. There is no point in gatekeeping this shit what are you 12??
Nta but the parallel anon was trying to point out is, troons dress like women and expect to be accepted in women’s spaces (shelters, support groups, sports, etc). Not much different than what Angela is complaining about, which is normies donning a “goth costume” and going into goth spaces. She doesn’t realize that trannies do the same thing she hates, yet is still caping for them.
I do agree Angela is being ridiculous though. I get seeing normies is annoying (particularly if they’re moids just wanting to hit on “freaky goths”), but if it’s just normies in black not really doing anything, I don’t see why it’s an issue. Isn’t more attendance better anyways? As long as the music doesn’t change to the new crowd of normies visiting then whatever.
>>1567555>two supposed alternative people>our song>the carpenters
That's even considered cheesy for our parent's generation nevermind their own, couldn't find a more unique song no? Doesn't have to be goth but MOR? Anything? Out of all the songs in the world?
Really living up to that "poser" status here kek
Right? They couldn’t pretend to like a more alternative song?
I think Jake likes the song because he’s a narcissist who also wants to believe “girls follow him around” and is “a dream come true” (lyrics in the song). I don’t really think it’s much of a couple song at all, since it’s about a girl fawning over a boy and is possibly unrequited. It’s one-sided.
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Not very related, but I'm watching Jake's latest vlog from Barcelona right now and managed to screenshot this monstrosity. With this screencap, we're now entering the realm of hobo land, where pisses are only to be taken in public in the middle of a beach, with an unlit ciggarette in between your slimy lips.
(In the video he's not actually taking a piss, Kat just got to hold the camera and at that point, they were both drunk into oblivion so she filmed his crotch while giggling. Just thought it looked funny kek)
Kek you do know goth as a genre exists, right? There’s certain music characteristics that categorizes a song as goth. Literally look it up. It’s just like any other genre of music. You don’t have to listen to Siouxsie or even like the OG bands to be a goth, there’s literally hundreds of bands making goth music.>>1567955
Anon is probably a retard whose mad that listening to Manson or Corpse Husband doesn’t make them a goth.
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fucking lol at Fake‘s likes on twitter
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Jake : “See, look at me guys. You are wrong. I do have friends. I tagged along because I’m here with K. They made me a hotdog. “
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People are starting to get their refunds for the plush, he must be seething right now feeling that underage fan money slip through his fingers
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You missed the best one. "Look at me being cool" while everyone ignores the raging narcissist kek
hahaha. also, "mummy, sing me my lullaby 'close to you.'"
" 'on the day that I was born the angels got together and decided to create a dream come truuuue' "
Seconding this, your pity is wasted on the likes of him. everything he does is just his smooth little narc brain trying to make himself look grand. >>1566366>>1566507>>1566372>it’s your fault!!1>muh sob story, muh friends>fuck teh haters
this is so retarded, he really is a bona fida textbook narc. 100% that fucker is sitting around drunk off his ass and unleashes his rage in the most embarrassing way. Jake was the real cow all along, lmao what a trainwreck
Sage for random nitpick, but why does Kat, who does tattooing for a living, have to be so dumb about it? Like in the Barcelona vlog she's getting BOTH her palms done at the same time. You are already handicapped when you have one palm done, but two?! Girl, you had to have one giant shit of a time in Barcelona, not even being able to take the whole 3,5 inches of Jake's crotch-noodle in your hands in the evening.
Another one - everyone knows that drinking the day before your appointment makes you bleed a lot more, making the situation more uncomfortable both for you and the artist.
And an another one - palm tattoos can be cool, but generally artists recommend getting simpler designs, as they tend to fade quite a lot. The tentacli/flower/heart thing with the detailed line work she's got there is not gonna hold up.
Yep this is how someone so lacking in any redeeming qualities can somehow get money rained on him (past tense) people enjoyed the company of the community/fandom despite his lack of personality, he was kind of the totem. By his own ineptitude he broke the community apart, leaving nothing for people to attach to.
The nice part I guess of cult and fandoms is they stem from a desire for community, people want to care for others and support them (parasocial relationships with idols, as well as fellow community members), and those traits are nothing to be ashamed of.
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Look at me totally having fun guys!!
Also, Jude went on a rant, in a video so no need for pic, about how people send messages like kys in influencers' anonymous asks and doesn't understand how people can be so "vile." First of all, welcome to the Internet. Second, you're vile to your followers all the time in Q and As, yes you do understand kek.
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Ugh Skat is just as sufferable as Fake. They deserve each other. A truly rotten pair.
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Jude goes on a rant about people sending her hate messages while trying to do a Q&A.
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That's not true, we decided over 5 months ago to cross over Jude to Alt cow because her thread was slow. And if we only post about Jude relating to Jake, then why are most of the post about Jude for the past few threads were barely about Jake?
Uhh that was my point all the non jake related shit should go in her thread
wether you constitute it as enough milk or not. Irdc it was just a question because I see her thread pop up then I see her pop up in this thread. You can get back to dunking on the goffs now
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Some milk on the mean girls of the north:
I think Lilachris and Manicmoth aren‘t close friends anymore. Chris used to kiss Annika’s ass because she wanted to be just like her, being a big fan and stuff. Last big birthday party, Manicmoth is missing. Last post on the shop‘s instagram about Manicmoth is a year ago. No more jewelry from Annika in her store, only 2 ugly low effort T-shirts. Instead Chris chose to stock necklaces from Mystery Creation, Polish brand afaik. They didn‘t go to WGT together, it seems they met shortly but it does look like some posing out of politeness, no party together. Does anyone have milk on what happened between them?
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Literally the same necklace Manicmoth makes. Why dump a friend‘s jewelry for foreign made stuff? Manicmoth used to live close to the Nyctophilia shop too, it doesn‘t make sense.
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not very original anyway
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K’s gf Koli tagged everyone but Fake. Lol nobody can stand him or wants to be associated with him.
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They are so co-dependant. Suppose that's what happens what you cheat on and screw over the people around you kek
literally just the honeymoon period. Just wait till they burn through this phase. kek>>1570280
he does have a stereotypical alcoholic look to him, bloated in the face and gut
That is such a reach. Like seriously.
Kaya did an instagram live recently, I tuned in a few minutes late but people were apparently asking her about jake still having some of her stuff and how she could get it back, and she was getting very uncomfortable and flustered talking about it. People suggested she get a friend to go with her or get it for her and her response was something along the lines of her friends not wanting to deal with him. She ended up shutting the conversation down because she didn't want to/couldn't talk about it, and she seemed irritable and upset for a bit after. It's pretty clear she's still scared of talking too much about things publicly. I don't know if he's threatened legal action or destroying her stuff or what, but her reactions anytime things like this come up are very telling.
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The bf is nonbinary apparently, jude called him a "they" in a vague post about him, but has no problem calling him daddy kek.>>1570699
Also isn't jude like 5'5" or something, her "daddy" can't be much taller than that then
We've seen jake's stubby lil pencil dick grinding all over his motorcycle, who the fuck gives a shit about toe pics? I feel like this is a reach.>>1570655
Definitely wouldn't doubt if he's used physical or financial intimidation. At the very least he'll be broke soon enough.>>1570699>>1570845>>1570738
ngl, she looks huge next to him. "daddy" is an absolute manlet, she's even slouching down/bending her knee a bit. kek>>1570884
She makes like 7k off patreon alone, anon. I don't think she's terribly strapped for cash rn.
It's not codependant its desperately trying to cement the relationship as "real" to onlookers. It's all performative wank, just like always.
When they post shit like this, they get comments on being codependant or unable to do anything without one another, and when they don't and do things separately of one another, they get "ooh trouble in paradise" lol. They're perfectly capable of being apart, Jake's taken multiple opportunities to travel abroad without her, but needs to make the relationship that he homewrecked and tanked his own career for look like its "the real deal".
I wonder how much they do this to try and convince themselves that its the real deal, and worth all of the negatives, and how much is for trying to convince everyone else.
>>1571098>I don't think anybody except Jake stans or that person that got extremely riled up about one of Kaya's piercings the other day would give that much of a shit any more if she was taking photos of her feet
or the people who were clutching their rosaries at the mention of onlyfans the other week kek>>1571100
This. Literally, all of this. Nothing to add but I just wanted to bump this specific post so that when Jake and Kat inevitably read this thread next, they can pay close attention to this bit.
The true music based goth subculture has definitely been on a decline especially in North America too many people just use the fashion for clout and a lot of people are not here for it like Angela.
I live in one of the biggest cities in Canada that was once the hot scene city and we have like 2 nights a month now and a few other here or there events/meetups but mostly just drama in spaces meant to grow the community. Feels like with a lot of niche subcultures and fashions the older crowd would rather just do their own thing and not bother exhausting themselves with the trendy kids.
Tinfoil hat thought I think most people who actually care about goth don't want to bother with the whole influencer life especially not to the point it would be their income which is usually what leads to milk. A lot of what people can argue is pillars of goth are counter intuitive to pillars of goth (Counter culture, DIY, unique expression ect.) There are a few possible future goth cows looking at you Nyx Linnae if you keep your current shit up. But I have definitely seen a lot of gothtubers just give up when they realize they aren't just going to be a big youtube star after 10 videos and that youtube actually costs you money for a long time before it makes you money.
Sorry for 'tism blog of an elder goth
u right. real goths don't give a shit about influencer bs, maybe IBF is one of those real goths who put shits out there but then again she's not that milky tbh she's just 30 yo edgelord, like Angela.
Thank God I'm a Eurofag. America is a big mistake nowadays kek.
I'm from a major city in the USA and it's pretty dead here too. All the main venues closed and all of the stores either closed or downsized majorly. We're basically limited to a couple "goth night" themed events at a few clubs at best. Even so, it's maybe a handful of actual goths, while the rest of the crowd is made up of weebs, metal heads, and e-girls.
kek. I feel old.
A lot of what people can argue are pillars of goth are counter intuitive to influencer culture*
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I wish I had capped a few of her stories lately so sorry for no proof for all but off the top of my head>Constantly posts about how she is "homeless and bathing in a mop sink" like it is a daily bingo if she features a story about look how smol I am in the mop sink, look at me doing my grungy laundry in the mop sink ect>Vague stories about some female who has beef with her and how low it is to "beef with someone who you don't know and is homeless and bathing in a mop sink">She has a new bf who in EU? want to say Germany or maybe just speaks German? (Sorry NA fag here) and is constantly posting about him and is even visiting him even though she is homeless?>Seems like she has to bring up the new beau at every chance she can even bringing him to hangouts via facetime like picrel
Again not saying she is exactly milky but she is definitely straddling the line if not dipping toes into the milk pool.
And while I hate to be that anon for someone who constantly reminds people she has been homeless for a year she sure doesn't miss a show or drink with friends. Yes poor people are allowed to enjoy themselves but unless her plan is to go live in her German BF's basement illegally I feel like she could be a lot further along finding somewhere to live.
Of the Madi Danger circle she is definitely my nominee for next cow though lol.
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Recap, because I actually watched her videos back in the day, but this is actually old news:
From what I know, she stopped doing "goth" videos on YouTube and instead began to yap about her hispanic heritage (I remember a sagrado corazon make up look, shit like that). This went on for quite some time until she flat out deleted all her shit because she "didn't feel goth anymore" and was "tired of being judged" and apparently suffered from BPD and depression.
Typical "burnt out from YouTube" bullshit, I guess. She even made an IG post that just said "Am I still goth? NO!". Apparently she had beef in her local music/goth scene as well.
She's on Insta under a new name, Sangre.de.tuna (how hispanically edgy of her), but she's gone private and won't accept any new followers.
picrel, her last explanation on IG before she deleted everything
>>1567703>This topic isn't milk but I'm amazed at how Angela is defending goth gatekeeping (rightfully imho)
She is not. Calling goth a gothic rock based subculture is about as gatekeeping as calling metalhead a heavy metal based subculture. To call that "gatekeeping" is like to call people who call oxygen in room temperature "a gas" as "gatekeepers".
>in her latest video using this rethoric and then she's completely blind to the troon menace.
DAFAQ am I even reading here? Being or not being trans, gay, sexual predator or hazard games addict is irrelevant to the fact that goth is music based.
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This is all we've gotten from him since traveling home. Surprised he didn't film a running jump into Kat's arms.
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Jake really seems to hold a grudge against this guy. Just out of curiosity, I checked MGK's Twitter to see what kind of person he is and this is the latest tweet. I can tell it's not my type of music but at least he seems like a better man than Jake at first glance.
Madi actually seems like a person who just wants to see the Goth scene thrive. If fellow nonas have any milk on her please share but she actually tells people to get into the music and is supporting new goth bands. She shills indie alt makeup brands and one or two made in china killstar lite type brands but generally only when people ask about where to buy clothes. Her spotify is full of playlists of goth music for when people ask what is goth music. She has a bf who is like metal head so no whoring. She has a real job so no ebegging either. Her videos are generally decent and focus on living a goth lifestyle but she doesn't post on yt often seems like shes most active on insta and does some clock app. Zoomers think of her like a goth mum and the guy from vandal moon is goth dad apparently.
Part of me hopes someone has some milk on her lol. I do find it annoying how she sjws about Peter Steele and can't seperate the art from the artist but I think that's just zoomers.
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Here she is in a tagged post with her “daddy’s” band. Kek
Is Jude getting fat or always been that way?
Am way too scared to ask who the band is or what kind of noise vomit they make.>>1571981>>1572047
MGK and Megan Fox are also a huge part of why zoomers think Goth fashion is just dress up because they wear black and MSM calls them the dream goth couple.
same anon, i dug around on tumblr and found this that explains in depth: https://ciarancreature.tumblr.com/post/686978162605850624/on-the-madi-danger-discord-drama-plus
so she obviously doesnt respond to criticism well
Jake is really jealous of MGK because he is TALL, thin, has a bigger dick and is conventionally attractive, and he is engaged to Megan Fox, an actually appealing hot MILF who doesn't have thin white girl lips or crowsfeet. I dont know why MGK is 'canceled' or anything at all about his music, I just saw him perform at the VMA and I saw a bunch of pics of him online. but Jake has attributed all MGK's success because "he's tall, thin, and attractive" and insists MGK "ruins" songs. LOL like Jake's covers are such musical delights to the ears! also Jake's taste in music is so cringe… 2002 SOAD, Linkin Park, KoRn… that is considered like "bad taste" in music for a metalhead to have, it's all radio/MTV garbage. that's what we called a poser, someone who'd say "I love GOOD music, not POP CRAP, I'm metal" then rattled off these bands. kek
anon here is right.
gatekeeping is a word used and invented for people who only wears goth as a costume and don't give a shit about reality; this is a music based subculture.
I wish fucktards never used "goth" as anything, better be dead than full of retards in the sub.
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Jake the fake finally posts something and its to quote his own tweets whining about people liking a song and using it in their posts. He is like a black hole sucking all joy out of the space around him.
Yeah this might be a valid
critique of overused or misused songs if he didn't just post that his couples song is "close to you" by the carpenters kek
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Literally one of his top 3 most popular videos on his channel is his try not to laugh tik tok girlfriend edition with Kaya. Lol
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Yet he’s lost 12,400 followers since the breakup video. AND the failed plushie. Yikes
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I thought you were joking but nope, again following Kaya's ghost… This is getting ridiculous
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One year ago…
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Ok but which of you is this on here on her phone in the background?
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Princess Snaggletooth looks great on her birthday.
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Actually a really engaging and fun video. There was one confession that said ' I really want to smash my horrible ex' and she said 'I'm so glad i dont have that problem', i had to laugh ngl
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Right after this comes the confession 'my husband is a narcicist but i cant go anywhere' and she looks very defeated as she explains to get a plan and try to get out asap because she knows its hard, full frontal confirmation kek
No joke, good video. I haven’t watched one of her videos in years - not even the breakup video. But you guys are right, it was quite good.
The number of times she brought up cheating seems pertinent
This dude really has no original ideas - it’s shit to Kaya that he’s trying to force her out of her favourite places (in the country she was actually born in and actually likes, no less) and it’s shit on Kat that he’s just taking her on a tour of places he’s ignored his ex. Super fucking weird. >>1574966
Same, it’s not my usual thing, but I love the eyes and they work with the deliberately almost cartoonish lips. THIS is how you do mannequin/clown-esque goth makeup…cough Jake cough.
Dont forget she fucked all the tragic black members and then called them abusive
! I cant stand this bitch. She was going on anf on about how gay she is, but has never had a girlfriend.
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Love this makeup on her too tbh, especially her eyes. Gives me a larger lipped, more modern version of 1920's film star makeup.
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Is that that wig Kaya destroyed 25 threads ago kek, picrel
Sounds like jake did her a huge favour leaving her
Didn’t do him self a favour tho lol
Did she purposely pick all the same types questions like cheating, leaving narcs, bad relationships, not liking partners children,not wanting to bang ex’s or was it just a strange coincidence
Also low key throwing so much shade just expose him already
I also think a lot of Kaya’s fans were specifically choosing ex confessions in an attempt to get her to talk about Fake.
Kaya is going to be vague-posting for a long time though and dragging it on for as long as she can. I think a lot of her viewers (and even non-fans) are just waiting for her to say something about Fake. People like watching internet drama. Kaya wants to keep the numbers and donations coming though, and both would likely slow down if she finally made a big video saying what happened.
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So he's complaining about gas prices when he had how many cars and bikes? Man that income of his must have slowed to a crawl.
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Every time he posts Kat on IG, he loses hundreds of followers within the day.
Jake needs to make a very difficult choice between dating Kat and being successful on social media. he has to stop mentioning her at all to the extent that people think they broke up, or pretend to break up with her or something.
no one is enjoying the honeymooning homewrecker bullshit. does his follower count have to get to 0 for him to figure it out?
Ex-snacc here as well and this made me sad. In my opinion I always saw through the "had a great day, cause I made it a great day" because it gave me fake toxic
positivity vibes. Like, a shallow "just think yourself happy" type of mindset.
It originated from the phase where he was pretending to be a positive affable vlogger nice guy, it's 100% toxic
positivity, he never meant it, it was just a feelygood catchphrase he'd parrot to end his videos. It's funny because it's so completely incongruent with the way he behaves and presents himself now, he's relentlessly and insufferably negative
Little bit offtopic but also cow related, I check the tumblr of the guy who set off the whole gamergate thing in 2015 about once a year, and this video he posted is a great example of how easily led our minds are.https://antinegationism.tumblr.com/post/650205067628134400/antinegationism-antinegationism-hentaikid
The circles aren't moving, only the colours on the outer rims change, but they appear to our minds to be moving. We are but delicate monkeys.
(To snaccs, reminder Jake is an ass and don't let his little jingles fool you)
I get the impression this coupling is one of those "get back at your exes" couples and they're both performing for the benefit of their recent exes, who probably aren't even watching kek.
Hence the lack of substance and over-sexualisation of their relationship.
Jake is an influencer, if he's going so far to make a whole vlog about her she might as well be as much of an "e-celeb" as anyone. Sure, the vlog was for HIS birthday, but it was 100% obvious what the point of the vlog is. It was to show the world his new trophy. Her lack of personality doesn't make her look mysterious or interesting, it simply makes her look vapid and actually borderline retarded at times.
Not to mention both of their OF accounts are total failures at this point. Doing anything different at all might be BETTER for business.