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While this is a jay/ivy containment thread, it is also intended for genderspecial e-artists / left leaning sjw twitter/tumblr artists. These artists are known for grifting (i.e demanding reparations) while harassing anyone morally inferior.
Jessica Ortiz / Jay / succulentbud / joulejay / juckedj
>A filipino/white new yorker genderfluid girl who has been harassing artists and others for years.
>notably known for editing splatoon fanart of marina and calling fanartists racist on tumblr
>was called out for pageshotting porn a 17 year old tumblr mutual posted while being an adult.
>is speculated to be a racefaker because his gf draws him brown. However, his selfies indicate that he is pale.
>eventually moves to twitter and start drama on there, as well.
>now dating the notorious destinytomoon
>harassing South Asian javidraws for being upset how american centric twitter is. Claims she is antiblack
>makes fun of Megan Ruiz Lopez for comforting Javidraws. Lopez is currently being sued by her school for speaking up about sexual misconduct
>attacked Chinese Kiwi Yueko for considering the pros/cons of NFT.
>made a list of artists that does NFT. States "Do as you wish with this information"
>attacked french artist kinokorp for drawing art brutalizing japanese girls. Demanded that kinokorp pay in reparations for her fans defending her.
>Spoke poorly of people who donated to the Friday Night Funkin' kickstarter. Claimed the money should go to the poor. Then, Ninjamuffin came to speak about his experience on poverty, but jay ignored it.
>got hospitalized because people called out Jays hypocrisy
>returned to twitter, only to attack kinokorp again
>destinys face is leaked and she is upset. Jay locks his account and suicide baits over the stress.
Javiera Alegria Solar / ivy/ Destinytomoon /orquidiaarte
>A chilean cisfemale artist that claims that she is a transwoman
>draws weird cat futa porn but no one acknowledges that.
>has garnered 20k followers pandering to minorities and liberals by drawing fat/brown/hairy women
>popularized the mikusonamonday tag
>constantly change her identity labels whenever it works in her favor.
>notably, claims that she is a white passing afro native latinx. Insisted her dad is black.
>briefly claimed she was Jewish but scrubbed that away.
>claimed she was bisexual once, and when lesbians spoke up about her using the double venus signs, Destiny loses her shit. She claims shes too scared to use the bisexual label due to "white gays."
>the lesbian that confronted her was a black lesbian minor. Destiny sent 20k people to harass her. (Jay also partook in this)
>her friends calls white to pick on her for "lols."
>black artists finally spoke up how Destiny was invading black spaces despite obviously being white
>chilean called destiny out for refusing to bring awareness to femicide in Chile via tumblr.
>old drama resurfaces and Destiny loses her shit.
>privates her account and claimed she self-harmed after 7 months.
Notable mutual friends:
Loved111333 / lovelyoneee333
>20 something girl who allegedly has ptsd and did
>Bullies and harass anyone who speaks up against them. Accused any critique against her as racist attacks
>is currently stalking a 15 year old biracial girl who called her out for being a bully
>Claimed that she doesnt mean to lash and hurt people, that was her did
>art is terrible
>this is loved's sister.
>tl;dr follows the same suit as above
>another artist that suffers DID
>claims that they are japanese/latine/black, but refuse to share any selfies… Their alternate personalities may be different races
>always complains how non black skilled artists get more attention than her because she is black
>everytime there is drama, teachicko is always involved
>like loved and forged, she bullies and harass anyone she does not like
>if you say you do not like how explosive the discourse she causes, you must be a racist or a pedophile
>actually is good at art
>threatened to draw incest porn of peoples IRL family
>is involved in a lot of discourse like the above listed
>a mutual of the listed artists above.
>does not start drama but tend to hype and spread them like a crony
>another white latine race faker.
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There is not a lot on peachieflame right now, but she is full of milk on twitter.
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Shes so undeniably white….
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Yes, the kicker is that the artist she harassed was also latin. Guess that didnt matter, though.
So let me get this straight, peachieflame is white, getting angry on behalf of >>1220086
Mayans? Kek what the fuck? And >>1220065
is destinytomoon from the OP? Jessica and her girlfriend are both such fucking weirdos.
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Might as well drop this here as the same anon who posted >>>/ot/794752
but with some updates after researching previous archives of DestinytoMoon/Orquidiaarte's twitter from the Wayback Machine. https://web.archive.org/web/20210223204155/https://twitter.com/orquidiaarte
(February 23rd. Has the gender non-conforming label, was claiming to be "mixed". The former got removed from her March 1st update.)https://web.archive.org/web/20210313055548/https://twitter.com/orquidiaarte
(March 13th. Surprisingly, in a turn of events, the gender non-conforming label came back after getting removed since a week ago starting on the 1st. Beginning of the Lesbian, Trans Female, and Genderless labels that got removed from the March 22th update.)https://web.archive.org/web/20210322103711/https://twitter.com/orquidiaarte
(March 22th-25th. What the fuck I'm looking at these labels. Claiming LGBTQIA+, Transgender (woman), and hilariously, white passing "afro-native mixed". Just can't stop laughing at this.
And to these people from the Twitter SJW Artist crowd might think this is photoshopped as a result of defamation, unfortunately all of these screenshots taken from her profile are true and they are preserved in their archive form. Maybe they're too busy complimenting her drawings and giving her and her boyfriend asspats despite the constant victim
blaming on themselves and other actions they're not aware of, while not noticing the constant changes she does to her profile. >>1220069
Kek, she doesn't even hide it well from her fans despite there are archives of her face surrounding the internet before going into DFE mode when she got called out for faking being trans to blend in the crowd last year.
Weird that her boyfriend is now bringing the trans woman narrative for her case after there were callouts done earlier, even though there's proof that Destiny faked it and most of their white-knights are still sucking onto the narrative that there are "transphobic" sites making this up.>>1220065
How surprising. So much for the "Indigenious Ñuu Savi" ethnicity even though there doesn't seems to have any. Worth mentioning that she's associated with Succulentbud/Jay's circlejerk of friends, alongside with cum_binary/puppy and anyone else from that same group, all of them worth milky in their own while harassing nobodies and sending their followers to do the same to them.
it's a very American pov to think only Europeans are white. White skin is not exclusive to Europeans. How can this chick look at herself in the mirror and think she isn't white. I've seen American white latinos try to cash in on poc
oppression points because apparently speaking spanish and having non European culture means your skin isn't white. Having white skin is considered a privilege in the first place because you're treated better in the majority of cases, no matter what your heritage and race actually is. The term "white passing" is so idiotic. It's like these kids want to be oppressed to fit into their desired social circle
Also, do they even have "non-European" culture? White people who live in Latin America are the descendants of Spanish conquerers, right? If they want to get into purity tests about who is on who's land I'd tread carefully if my ancestry was Spanish and not indigenous. >>1220208
this is also so true anon, white Spanish people in Europe would never consider themselves POCs or just not European period.
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Yeah shes a cis female idk why her friend group and fans run around screaming that the info in kiwi farms is fake when searching info about chileans is so fucking easy, you only need their name and then you have access to their national ID and from there you get birth certificates, education certificates, etc.
Anyway here's another account with her full name so she doesnt act as if they have the wrong info.https://otsukai.com/user/116716
Also lmao at her criticizing latinos that are "obviously" white but dont choose that option in surveys 2 days ago after all this, that's what you get from trying to get those woke points.
kek that makeup, is she 6 years old
the only thing that would have me believing Javiera is actually a troon is how little she has a grasp on what looks good, everything she draws is sparkly and gaudy, everyone wears heels and short skirts, troons gobble that shit up
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when its your friends you suddenly think about the "nuance" of things kek
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Does anyone know where these leaks are? OP’s in some drama right now with tajmerk
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might be because Cumbinary is ivy/destiny to moon's friend. Tajmerk is implying that they're getting harassed by her fans I suppose
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Lmao anon thanks i was so taken back with that answer…like where do you even get that word>>1220593
Apparently it's not?
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geez. I thought these people were close knit, but they really cannibalized their own?
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Is this stuff with Tajmerk because of this tweet?https://twitter.com/tajmerk/status/1387878261682696192
She also made one complaining about white people insisting on getting into black spaces (but I don't have any screenshots), did Jay get angry at her for bad timing?>>1220354
anon like half the people in southern europe are darker than that
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The tweet is now deleted but I believe whatever Alex was replying to ignited it all
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Kirby isn't very cowish (i think they're a minor anyways) but they like to document discourse. So, if you see some slap fight happening, check this kid out.
Seems like tajmerk basically said how white-passing is basucally white. Alex went off on taj, and tajs that they dont fuck with people who fw white people. For context, Alex gf is white. So he blew up.
Now his followers (and jay's who accuses taj of posting this about ivy) are mass reporting taj.
People on the kiwifarms thread said it wasn't very likelly because that is a more or less recent thing and because there had been those strong protests at the time so burocratictly speaking it wasn't very likely that she would had been able to change it during that time (from my understanding). Also I think I recall a guy saying all of her school registers as far as primary school were registered as female.
I also might be recalling this badly so don't take my word for it but I think KF dug up an essay she had written that was basically a feminist essay and IIRC she refered to herself as cis in that essay (again, I could be misremembering, and I don't really feel like combing throught 100+ pages of stuff on KF)>>1220621
This kid is kind of a personal cow to me just cuz of the way they basically poke sticks at every single drama that happens. Extremelly petty. We're fortunate this kid doesn't have the same platform size as Jay.
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Btw this was all public, I just searched her: 2016 + school + yearbook and it was in the official school website
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Wops lastly if anyone wants to translate what it says in her info
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I found a screenshot from someone that follows Jay and this is what Jay says
Gonna share in two parts because otherwise it's too big
>>1220659>Nicknames: orca (killer whale)
Kek>frustrated dream: being japanese>platonic love: weeb shit>most awkward situation: being with three men
How can someone be so cringe jfc
>>1220676>frustrated dream: being japanese>platonic love: weeb shit
Doesn’t she have some fat latina oc that works at hooters in japan? She must be living out her weeb dream through that since it’s problematic
to fetishize Japan now. I’m surprised she didn’t attempt to call herself “white passing mixed afro-native-japanese”
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Kek, destiny didnt even pay reparations to the black lesbian minor she harassed last year.>>1220675
More proof of these idiots talking over black lesbians. That seems very antiblack of them.
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op is a did fakeboy posted a few times on the personal cow thread. loves to post callouts and then plug her own ebegging. her handle is FatumBetuIa, but she usually goes scorched earth when her callouts backfire so idk how much of it is left
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Unrelated to the destinytomoon drama but since this is teachiko:
>calls out two popular black artists, hotglossed for drawing fictional porn of teens, and toorurii for being friends with hotglossed
>implies people who drew fanart for toorurii are somehow guilty too because of this(???)
>toorurii makes some vagueposts about it
>basically she’s upset how she’ll barely have time to go on twitter(due to being busy as a medical major) and people will still assume shitty things about her without fact-checking
Wondering when this’ll all blow up in teachiko’s face someday. Even popular minority artist circles hate this chick.
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Clems response. This is so awful. Im sick of people assuming association = guilty
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Man, fuck the race shit. The faking trans is whats really gonna be the downfall of her.
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One of the responses to the callout(for context, both he and Clem are part native american). Fun fact, he’s the one who created Anoki from Validate
oh fucc if this actually involves validate then that's actually a really interesting development because that whole project is a show on it's own right
I wonder what the other members of the team would do if one of them got real cancelled. potential for some interesting team drama there
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The irony in these tweets kek
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This woman is on an a rampage this week
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This is the funniest part for me. Yes, she looks white-passing because she has her white mother's face and her black father's…eyebrows.
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Dani aka peachieflame trying to get someone suspended for calling her white.
Oh yeah btw shes not indigenous, she doesnt have the surnames nor is she in the national index (CONADI) I mean perhaps something like her great grandparents could be indigenous but… >>1220734
This has 0 logic like ???? Are you this desperate lmao
You can just look up people on that site to find if they're indegenous?
Ngl this, the birth certificate, and the school year book, it's actually creepy how shitty chilean online privacy is.
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I don’t think anything will happen sadly, Clem being vague in the first place likely means she doesn’t want to start shit with teachiko’s circle(which is understandable, they’d probably harass her and call her a pedo/racist/coon or something). And an anon in a previous salt thread said they know a lot of artists who try to avoid them too.
Old milk but the only popular artist I recall directly calling out one of teachiko’s circle(tajmerk) is idolomantises and that ended up with teachiko and friends(including the validate creator danulmao) teaming up to defend taj. If a validate member got “cancelled” the same would probably happen too(unless if it was for something extreme like assault or pedophilia)
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speaking of idolo, who is currently having a fit over the drama in there priv kek
Lmao yeah you only need the full name, then theres a search engine for the national id an with that you have legal and free access to their school certificate, birth certificate, marriage, if they are indigenous by law, etc.
I guess it isn't much of a issue because most chileans that like to stirr shit never use their actual name>>1220748
I remember when the javi_draws think happened they were pissed that she had black people blocked but it was all that friend circle like, no wonder.
Their cliques are so muddled and they’re crumbling before our very eyes.
Idolo tried to call out taj, the black lesbian who spoke about javiera and jessica racefaking “without meaning to”, only to get attacked by teachiko and her lackeys, then a year later idolo speaks in defense of javiera current day on her private account. Did she do it out of spite? Or because she’d have no one left if she denounced javiera?
KEK It looks like they’re going to split in half, one side relating to Validate/Black artists(?) and the other on jessica/destiny’s side. I’m waiting for someone to call jessica and javiera anti-black now. The milk would be so good. I liked how anons described them as self-cannibalizing, this group is actually crazy.
The schism is more like
Industry professionals (tbh taj is the only one with a job) and neets who e-beg and has never done art professionally before.
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Apparently she got a job with WB but I don’t know if she’s still working there.
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Found this on Orquidiaarte/DestinytoMoon's about the artist bio on her tumblr. She seems to be claiming to be genderfluid, gay, ace/asexual, and the return of the GNC (gender non-conforming) label. "White Passing POC" despite she claims to be mixed according to her twitter. As of this point, she's just in denial with those labels around her head to make herself more oppressed than she is.
last time we talked about her here apparently she claimed to work on WB but she mentioned doesn't mentioned them on her portefolio.
The only projects on her portefolio when I checked at the time (if my memory isn't failing me) were character design for an indie project and a project from herself which was the concept of "who is who except everybody is black and half of them are Kanye".
I think her portefolio doesn't have a tab for projects anymore so I can't show that to you very well.
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RIP. Clem broke mutuals with hotglossed
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Destiny drew vent art, probably about her and jay. Im cringing.
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Imagine harassing other workers over disagreement online for years and then whine when it happens to you too.
These people have no sentiment of unionizing. Just crab mentality
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God Alex is unhinged
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this is so shady like where's all this energy when y'all calling ppl out for the most minor things???
Haha, glorious. I remember she was involved during that TMNT drama and tried to get the staff fired. It doesn't feel so good when someone tries to mess with your income, does it?
Watching this friend circle implode is the funniest thing because really, how did they not see this coming? You guys are out here every other day trying to ruin artist's lives for fun and you think your friends won't eventually do it to you too when you piss them off even a tiny bit?
No sympathy at all for either of these people, karma is delivering.
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She also said this. Could be true because she’s posted about her mom kicking her out for being gay a while back. I doubt cumbinary actually knew about Taj’s situation but seeing them fuck eachother over(at least socially) and convincing their friends the other is the worst human being ever is amazing.
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These people are insane
I actually have no idea how this kid doesn't get cancelled. The Tajmerk/cumbinary stuff seems like kinda personal stuff like friendship drama going sour and this kids comes over to "document it from a neutral perspective".
I know that LCF is basically us gossiping technically but jeez going to the point of making yourself a google doc about friend drama that you're not a part of and then sharing it publicly is absolute snoopiness. This kid even documented the time at wich taj and cumbinary did each tweet lmao.
Is this kid a farmer undercover?>>1221040
Notice how at the end they basically get angry at the agent for telling them to fuck off.
Another anon already said it, this kid basically comments on every single art twitter drama that happens.
Basically an art twitter orbiter. Idk if theire actually friends with that group or not.
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This person is getting dragged pretty hard too. At 27 quote retweets now
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according to taj they aren't. while it's weird that they're randomly jumping in to document idk why they're saying kirby is being anti-black or fanning the flames when it was taj and alex brought this public in the first place.
also that doc is pretty accurate. it's only missing the tweet from taj where said to her white passing is white.
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a deleted tweet about the documentation tweet
Squeezing the fuck out of the POC victim
card I see
Taj lost a decent chunk too. iirc she was at 15.9k before all of this happened and now she's at 15.4k.
serves them both right imo. the only gained their platforms cuz of the bullshit callouts they keep doing every other day.
to be fair, imo documenting stuff so publicly like that kinda is faning the flames (I'm not defending taj tho)>>1221104https://socialblade.com/twitter/user/tajmerk
you can check this stuff on social blade
Jay's social blade is the funniest of them all
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Y'ALL MADE IT PUBLIC THE FIRST PLACE
lmfaoooo and she's the one that first made it public.
honestly this group has tried to get so many people fired for various dumb and selfish reasons it's weird that she's so surprised that this was the first go to one of them would do.
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>>1221097>>1221108>>1221082>>1221086>Wahhhhhh they see me fighting, why they see me fighting. You all so meanie and racist. I'm calling the twitter police
Your actions has consequences. Suck it up buttercup.
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kirby deleted the google doc and apologized. Why are apology threads on twitter always so melodramatic kek
>>1221102>(Except maybe Destiny and Jay, but I imagine they don’t want to associate with someone who’s getting called out now)
i don't know, nobody likes jay and the last time destiny left the internet when she was called out for troon larping last time. everyone in destiny's clique is done, i don't think they'll be able to come back from this unless they all rebrand.>>1221119
welcome to artist twitter. the drama never ends.
Non blacks when they step up: racists
Non blacks when they don't step up: racists
Tajmerk is the most insufferable bitch of art twitter. Worst than Jay to me.
i disagree. i've followed taj when she had 7k followers and noticed her count only increased when she called out artists.
she rarely posted art and would often repost/retweet old artwork instead. She only recently started drawing new things and gained a few more cuz of it and cuz of the imreallyblack hashtag
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This kirby person is white? Maybe they are a cow
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Looks like they’ve deactivated anyway. Not sure if they’ll return
I saw tweets of Taj claiming the Kirby kid told her herself that she was white>>1221186
Rip we no longer have a weirdly nosy kid to give us context for every single art twitter drama out there
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Stolen but….this is no one fault but themselves like, just dont make this mess public lmao
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I don't even keep up with who is who anymore but it's entertaining
Why do they misspell words or censor them like I have no clue if just minor mistakes or on purpose.
I'm fine with misspelled words when you type shit fast cause of autocorrect, but it's so hard to keep up with what each new thing is with these tards.
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Just noticed cum binary’s getting tons of people making fun of them for this post now (before they tried to get Taj fired, all the comments were in complete support of them.)
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Looks like they are watching the threads
So to sum it up; Cum Binary and Taj had a public falling out that resulted in Taj's job (maybe) being put on the line and Cum Binary being absolutely dragged for doing something so severe over a fucking Twitter disagreement. Those both effectively got a taste of their own medicine. Jay was dragged to hell and back for the FnF situation and their performative activism and is now trying to drug up pity points for his very white girlfriend who lied about being trans and is rping as non-white. This thread really did come in the nick of time to see this all explode lol.>>1221350
Since you're lurking here Jay, you are not a pillar of the community. You are the nasty pool of water in the corner of the basement that contributes nothing, but to serve as a cautionary tale on how not to conduct yourself online and a how-to-stagnate-with-shitty-art tutorial.
Its at the point that most people just follow them for the drama anyway. Its hilarious how they think they’re also a giant influencer at this point when they can’t even bother to do what they preach.
As wise men would say “do the shit you want done to you, to others”
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Taj was able to keep her job.
KEK this is so fucking cringey. All these people are extremely retarded, but cumbinary is the only one as mentally stunted as jay and destiny in my opinion. Her shit flinging antics came back around to bite her and she moos enough for an entire pasture. >>1221350
She’s so overdramatic that it’s insane. Cries muh safety, but she’s the shit for brains that makes everything public to begin with? She didn’t care about safety when it came to her attempts at destroying other artists’ livelihoods. She should try proving her white internet girlfriend is black and indigenous or something instead.
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A bit OT but I cannot stand that cum_binary person. They drew this pic and had a meltdown for at least a fucking week straight on tiktok because people thought that the two people in it were mother and daughter due to the drastic height difference. They scream BPD nightmare and I'm not at all surprised that they would try to get someone fired over saying that people who have white skin are white.
Yeah that type of gesturing screams mother/daughter. But learning about the importance of gesturing in art is problematic
>>1221556>the height difference >the maternal gesture
Oh yeah I totally can't see how someone might assume this is a mother and daughter piece. She should consider herself lucky she didn't get accused of incest shipping.>the mug that says his/hers
>>1221556>had a meltdown for at least a fucking week straight on tiktok
Is that rainbow hair? Kek
They really do look like mother and daughter, though. I don't get how she didn't realize it. I didn't even notice the "hers" and "his/hers" cups until another anon pointed them out.
Normie mom and her alt daughter with tattoos and dyed hair.
Also, I thought the former's head was reversed somehow. Her front looks like her back, for some reason.
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>>1221195>guys please stop uwu this drama isn't funny anymore!! People are holding me accountable for the weird racebaiting bullshit me and my friends destroy others art careers over bloobloo
Not milk but it absolutely enrages me this fuck has the nerve to say that it's unfair for people to screenshot their shit even though they do stuff like pic related to artists on their "racism" radar. If an artist can be stalked by Jay and crew everytime they dare even resurface on the internet for the crimes of drawing something Jay doesn't like than why do they think its so unfair of people to do when they're in the hot seat kek?
Oh I remember that incident, also remember how cum binary and friends were insinuating it was racist to assume two black girls were related instead of dating even though>black people were mistaking them for mother and daughter too>other artists have drawn gay black girl art without having that issue
Maybe consider that your execution kind of sucked.
i read through this whole thread, I had no idea who these people were like hours ago. I have to say, I dislike everyone involved, I still barely know what happened but at the same time I think I do.
They all seem like shitty people and I hope this drama continues.
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I actually think their arts okay. the black miku spam is annoying but their art is passable in terms of twitter sjw art. the froggy ita bag they made almost a year ago was alright but definitely not the best looking frog ita bag on the market.
another artist (meltyplanet) also made a frog ita bag around the same time. I don't remember if she was going to do a kickstarter campaign for it or if it was just in the design phase or what but either way meltyplanet's bag caused cum_binary/coolestegg.art to majorly sperg out on twitter and instagram and iirc they essentially accused the other artist of plagiarism and it devolved into whiny "im such a victim
" bullshit real quick with cum_binary making a bunch of callout posts.
it seems like meltyplanet deleted their twitter and I can't find any pics of their ita bag so I don't know how similar they were, does any other anon remember?
I went snooping and found their link tree. https://linktr.ee/MeltyPlanet
Looks like they nuked everything except for their shop and Etsy and couldn't find anything on an Ita bag. Considering their entire persona seems to revolve around frogs, Alex was more than likely just being a huge whiny bitch baby and I don't even know what MeltyPlanet's bag looked like. A frog Ita bag isn't a unique idea. I remember a while a back this one frog ita bag of a frog holding a knife would pop up on my timeline. I'm not surprised Alex used this chance to try and pull a victim
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good find anon! on meltyplanet's shop there's a bunch on products with this frog design on it, I think it's safe to assume this is what meltyplanet's ita bag probably looked like. there are some similarities but not nearly enough to trigger
the temper tantrum that cum_binary had over it
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Just searched meltyplanet bag and I think it might’ve been this? But yeah, considering cartoon frog designs, these aren’t really that similar.
And if the issue was that they’re both frog-shaped bags, that’s not some wholly original idea either. Just google keroppi purse (though now I wish there was an alternate reality where cum_binary somehow accused Sanrio of plagiarism instead)
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even if this isn't it, the "kawaii frog" aesthetic is fucking everywhere, and they look exactly the same. hell, that one looks like pickles the frog.
if someone is picking fights over a damn kawaii frog, they need to re-evaluate their life
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Kinda old, but the npd headwriter of validate chimed in the destiny race faker convo. But she basically say lightskined poc versus white passing poc are different. That destiny looks white no matter what because she has no poc traits.
This is the same person who attacked heybiji and calling her a coon because Biji felt as if twitter discourse users were narcs and abusive.
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Reason why Tajmerk went priv for a day or too. The lack of self awareness from these people are insane. These people will relentlessly harass other artists they disagree with, but when it's suddenly turned on them they act like they're about to have a heart attack. The only reason she's really denouncing KiwiFarms is because she's scared some of her followers might find her dirty laundry.
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The funniest part of this is that she herself was caught smacktalking other artists on PULL. So it's ok for her to go on gossip sites to shit talk people but when people do it to her, she's a ~target~ and you shouldn't trust those sites.
Honestly I don’t get how they’re still together. Teachiko’s boyfriend seems to be a pretty chill popular artist, and she’s just… annoying as fuck and always starting unnecessary shit?
I don’t get how even her friends stand her actually, I remember she even guilt-tripped them for retweeting a joke about crushing Baby Nut because that’s like wishing “death” on a child. She’s fucking insane and her toorurii callout shows she hasn’t gotten better one bit.
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Going to repost old drama here because people keep bringing up old shit that was already spoken about in other threads
Sa1ntcake / mickie being attacked by pro shippers because she vague tweet about an ex friend threatening suicide. At the same time, a fanfic writer killed herself over dream porn / harassment.
After the confusion was cleared up, mickie and friends wanted reparation
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Sa1ntcake / suicide discourse
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Sa1ntcake / suicide discourse
This is going to take a while
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Sa1ntcake suicide discourse part 4
Mickie clarifies thw situation here
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Sa1ntcake suicide discourse final
Mickie friend asking for reparation on her behalf
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Alterego, the did chickwho claims shes japanese/black/latine but refuse to share selfies in black hashtag/selfie events, being cringy as usual
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Shae/loved111333 attacking japanese artist edalog for drawing native americans.
As ref, edalog no longer posts on social media
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Shae/lovedone111333 accuses lovelyrosebun of harassment after shae accuses rosebun as race faking because she draws too much black people despite being white latine.
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The javi draw discourse
Tl;dr javi draws insulted y2k fashion and is seen as antiblack because y2k was a black fashion movement. For whatever reason, meyoco is accused of blocking people hurt by javidraws. There is no proof of this but twitter does not care.
Popular arab artist ghana defend javi draws and twitter calls her antiblack as well.
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Angelmaws accuses javidraw of being antiblack
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People accuses javidraws of racefaking despite her multiple selfies. She is asian.
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Meyoco responds to these accusations
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Javi vented how americancentric twitter is. People sees this proof of her racist behavior. She clarifies this is about the 2019 notre dame incident
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Lovedone111333 joins the fray lol
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Lovedone111333 flaunts her art as better than ghadaaax art.
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Lovedone111333 waiting for javidraws n ghadaaax to wake up to respond to discourse
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Shae comtemplates bullying people
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Alterego, our totally japanese black latine queen comments on the discourse
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>>1222959>nearly 14k followers
I’m convinced she either got this far due to drama or pity points for drawing the ugliest racebends of anime characters I’ve ever seen. I know skilled black artists who create really fun and appealing art of black characters but aren’t even close to half of this follower count.
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Sorry. Heres the picture.
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Somewhat relevant, shae used to have another account before running away because she stalked a biracial black minor
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Continuation of last post
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Tajmerk accuses the art community of gaslighting because people defended javidraws
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Heybiji, a black artist retweets an old thread in response to javidraws discourse.
The headwriter of validate loses her shit over it
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More biji thread
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Biji thread final, it is now deleted I believe
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Headwriter of validate, great galaktyka outs herself with clinically diagnosed narcissism lol?
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Destiny claims white lgbt people attacked her for using the double venus sign, despite being bi at the time (when we know it was black lesbians who called her out)
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Solange versus heybiji over fucking art discourse
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Greatgalacktyka demanding reparations
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Antiblack artists are asked to donate money after another racially charged art drama
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Teachiko shares someones selfie and accuses them of race faking despite them being born and raised in japan
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Teachiko accusing someone of racefaking part 2
Thread that talks about it https://twitter.com/raikamudapon/status/1116545842003841024?s=19
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Someone from kiwifarms dropped this cap a while ago
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this thread reminded me of a personal cow i keep tabs on, a sjw "filipino nb lesbian" who draws mlm ships exclusively and deliberately shit stirs in her fandom in hilarious ways.
i have a feeling she's racefaking for clout but she doesn't post pics of herself, and i'm trying to figure out if she has a history
does this style/art look familiar to any notorious sjw e-artists you know?
the top right drawing is meant to be a self portrait btw
i hate twitblrs new mentality of calling everything pedophilia. they were 17, literally one year from being "legal". if that's what they consider pedo, then where will they draw the line? 17 isn't any different than 18, or 19. they gonna call 20 year olds minors too? there's even users saying how they think even 1/2 yr age gaps are "problematic
sage for slightly OT
OH FUCK LOL I ALWAYS SEE THEM IN THE RDR2 TAG ON TUMBLR BACK THEN. Last i heard of them was that they got mass reported for making fun of white girls i think. I think theyre back again
Their group of friends is wild as shit
Exactly. These types would flaunt how easy it is to own up to your mistake. Its easy being pure and ethical. Everyone who fails to meet their standards deserves to be ran out of the community.
So to see Jay cant even meet his own standard is milky as hell. His refusal to own up to anyone also proves how hard this was for his victims
to apologize too.
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Is anyone aware of floatyspacecat? I don't know anything about the show this individual seems interested in, but the posts seem milky. Honestly just seems like a random ftm troon making a petition to make their gay otp come to fruition. I made a little compilation of the comics that stood out to me.
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one of teachlko's friends has been my personal lolcow for years, im surprised i haven’t seen her insert herself into this drama yet. pic rel is her response to a video of a girl’s messy room after being so depressed she couldn’t clean
>crackers this, whiteys that, anyone who slights or criticizes her might as well be calling her an ugly spic behind her back, posts about how white people should be euthanized and still cant figure out why her twitters keep getting suspended
>complains about her school being a scam but is too deep to back out when just googling it brings up tons of info about it scamming students (the art institutes)
>hates her elderly mom and tells her she wishes she would die because she's a republican, despite supporting her and her adult brother and paying for her college
>raised a jehovah's witness but separated herself from it, still believes evolution is a lie and anyone who believes in it is racist, fake deep posts about being a "racist cult survivor"
>begged for people, including minors, to draw her porn of cartoon characters but insisted she couldn’t draw it herself because of her religion
>spergs out about communism being racist and how anyone who believes in it should cut their throats and set themselves on fire, parents allegedly immigrated from cuba because of the revolution and this makes her think she can screech mccarthyism at anyone who talks about it
>spends “hours lovingly rendering” art and freaks out at anyone who tells her otherwise. got into a lot of tumblr drama because all she drew were shelf-assed midget girls and attacked other artists for drawing "thicc" girls the same way. got racist anon hate years ago and complains about it to this day, whining about how fandoms are racist and how white artists should pay her reparations for not drawing the things she likes. used to attack random artists on tumblr for drawing “abusive” ships because they enforced rape culture or some shit like that, to the point of eventually getting a hate blog dedicated to her
>“my pussy smells like roast beef”
>cat pissed on her laptop and ruined it, asked for donations on tumblr but insisted begging for money on the internet was beneath her
she’s currently 24, drawing the same things, still shitting herself over ships, and crying about how osmosis jones isn’t in space jam by @ing the directors on twitter with caps lock
I meant to say that after the Javi drama (IIRC) she deactivated but then came back a bit later, so I'm just guessing that this time she will come back as well based on that.
My wording wasn't very clear, sorry.
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Says her twitter account has been suspended?
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my bad, her current twitter is r0th0tic and roTHOTTIEc (nsfw). some of her old suspended handles are NastyDirtyLord, roThotic, and robotThots. there's a fair bit of archives for rothotic and robotthots on the wayback machine, and some of the replies to these accounts are pretty insane
looks like her old blog was terminated unfortunately, that was really the epicenter of her insanity. her old tumblr URLs were maria-amino, mariaamino, and osmosisjones if anyone recognizes them, since she had it apparently for over a decade and bummed around in the same fandoms. i'll have to find some of the milky screenshots laying around of the crap she would post on tumblr
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There's not much milk going on for Orquidiaarte/DestinytoMoon, but she has been signaling boosting other people on her tumblr between yesterday and today. Really surprises me the moment she felt suicidal when people called her out for racefaking and not addressing the accusations against her, then she does this as if nothing happened to her.
Anon, I think you're reading way too deep in to what I said. No one said anything about a mid life crisis, I pointed out that in a few years they're gonna be middle aged and it's weird that they're still acting like a 14 year old. It's totally normal to acknowledge that when you're gonna enter your 30's? I don't know why you think that's so strange, most of my friends have been thinking the same since you have to start thinking about life things like buying a house or having kids and things like that (if you haven't done so already). I don't think 30's is old either fwiw but it's way too old to be acting like a tween and I was just using it to illustrate my point.
This had gotten way off topic at this point but ultimately it's undeniable that they act sort of mentally stunted like >>1223506
I really do wonder how she is going to get out of this one. Is it even possible for her to rebrand at this point?
Why do so many artists use mental illness as a justification for shitty behaviour? Mental illness may make it more difficult for you to control impulses, regulate emotions and think rationally, but at the end of the day, it's still your own actions that you need to take responsibility for. You can't just be a shitty person, then try to gain sympathy points for being a shitty person. When I'm having a manic episode, I become a huge fucking bitch, but that's on me. It's not because of my illness, or my environment, or the world that's out to get me, it's because I acted out shittily in a moment of low self-control. I still need to to take responsibility and try not be such an ass to the people around me. Cows think that mental illness gives them a free pass into entitled, hateful and borderline criminal behaviour because they've got too much of an ego to see that they're the problem, and at the end of the day their hugbox will tell them they were just acting out due to an oppressive society and that it's okay to be such bitter half-wits.
Sage for sperg.
>>1223216>racist cult survivor
what a fucking drama queen. i was raised one too & it's literally just like any other fucking religion. i'm tired of them blaming their crazy on religion, oppression, parents, etc etc.
i swear every time these cows go on about how abusive
their parents or home life is it's probably because they're freaks among normal people. sorry your family doesn't support your fucking diaper fetish or whatever.
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Found this while looking for something. Thought it was ironic considering OP is pale as hell
What is it with this bitch and her obsession with being the only valid
Latinxxx in the Twittersphere?
Maybe someone here follows her and she's spoken about it and they would know more, but lying on her portfolio would be the weirder option. Which definitely makes it seem more likely that she did immigrate to the united states at some point but is aware of the optics are that of a pale-skinned, english-speaking person who encountered little trouble immigrating. At the very least it would strongly imply her family comes from money if so.
But I might be biased in this assumption because my experience with these kids on art twitter is that the reason theyre all obsessed with the idea that people only get jobs in art through Big Accounts boosting them or from some sort of privilege is that they mostly come from backgrounds where they've succeeded over others through family money and connections and they're sensitive about it.
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whoops meant to attach this
Blog post, but I used to be a sjw twitter artist. In fact, I ran in a circle that was mutual to jay's friends.
I also used to have thousands of twitter followers and would often humiliate people for being problematic
. Despite me being a complete bitch, I was getting so much followers, so much replies, so much validation that once in my life, I felt very important.
Im not sure what goes on with other peoples life, but most of my like minded friends and I had no friends or family IRL. The internet was our friend, and as long as we remained top dog, our depression, anxiety, or disorders would be gone. But all of this would be temporary. My friends were notorious for calling out race fakers, but in their private accounts, they would be having hours long break downs how they hated themselves lmao. No one said anything about it. I really thought this shit was normal, kek.
But like what happened with Jay, I was not the perfect little sjw angel as I presented myself to be, and eventually got cannibalized. Later, I checked myself into therapy and cut off most of my sjw friends.
It's weird to now witness all of this happening to people I knew, who I used to respect. I cant help but feel bad knowing all of this are just huge signs of mental illnesses. It's so fucked up.
While, I dont wish ill will with these type, I cant help but feel bad for them. They are so insufferable now, and it's probably because they have nothing good in real life. Sometimes, I wonder if I should leak out shit my former sjw friends did that would be now seen as problematic
. But other times, I prefer to watch the fire from a distance.
>>1223822>I dont wish ill will with these type, I cant help but feel bad for them.
I get where you're coming from but I really don't think they deserve any sympathy. I'm usually sympathetic to a lot of people who have threads on here if I'm being honest but that's because most of the time they're not malicious and aren't hurting anyone except for themselves. The same can't be said for these people, they are really very vile.
A lot of internet friends of mine have had similar life experiences as you've described, as well as varying levels of mental illness and have never participated in this type of cruel behavior. It's fairly obvious that people like Jay have nothing else going on in their lives but I really don't think it's the catalyst for them acting this way because most people with these problems keep to themselves and don't do this. Most of them are adults too and are actively choosing to ruin other people's lives in order to feel good about themselves.
You are right though that a lot of it is manifestations of mental illness and I'm sympathetic to the situation itself, in that these groups do trap people from seeking recovery and treatment and generally just improving their lives overall, like what happened to you.
How do you feel about everything now? Do you feel bad about what you did to people?
Yeah, you're absolutely right. These types are usually aware of their illness manifestation and behavior but chose to ignore it.
I feel a lot of guilt of what happened. I know when I left social media a lot of people cheered in joy. Im not hurt at all, I was a complete menace.
Now, I have a job IRL. I made new friends at college. It boggled my mind how obsessive I was over internet people. Obviously, this will always be over the head for the rest of my life. But that is a consequence of my actions.
Sometimes, I do look up my former sjw friends, and I see them ranting for 40 minutes straight on twitter. It feels weird. People who used to be so close to me were the same one who said I was abusive
, evil, derranged. It really is a piranha pit out there, tbh.
I really do hope these people get better because all of this is literally insane.
I think Ivy herself is starting to "chicken out", apparently according to kiwi farms she deleted her insta (even tho I don't think anybody was calling her out there)
Do you think she might try to "rebrand" again?
Blog posting a bit too but I also used to be part of a friend group that would constantly shit talk other artists before the SJW callouts were a thing on Twitter, they did it completely privately and basically hated anyone not in their clique. Ironically one of them's since made a public Twitter where everyone constantly gushes about what a kind, generous person she is because she sucks up to everyone lmao. It's not entirely the same but I think the mentality is, they were all bitter, miserable people and I eventually got targeted and in the last year or so the group has imploded so it serves them right.
I also have an ex mutual who got really sucked into the nasty side of SJW callouts on Tumblr back in the day. She alienated herself from her entire friend group because she'd be watching all of us like a hawk for 'problematic
' behaviour which was often innocent things like reblogging from a 'bad' artist. She'd never confront us directly but would block then talk shit about them to act like she was some kind of saint. On Twitter she was a total nobody until she started sucking up to this group of people and constantly join in on their dogpiling and then gained several hundred followers in a short amount of time. I'm really glad I'm not involved with any of these people anymore because my mental health was terrible the whole time, I now have a normal, chill group of online friends and I'm much happier.
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I always found it weird that Greatgalacktyka made a split between white passing and those with white features when I believe they have an OC that is apparently Blasian but is allowed to be either pale or dark-skinned at the same time?
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twitter link seems bugged, pic for reference
got curious, went digging. the funny thing about Greatgalacktyka is that their whole """novel""" has been dragged for being racist and also stolen.
racist : http://webfictionguide.com/listings/division-by-zero/
stolen : https://twitter.com/a0webnoveltheft
not to mention the whole validate dev team seems to be a hyperonline hotmess : https://kiwifarms.net/threads/validate.69267/
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>>1224095>apparently black and a military general
How the fuck do any of their followers not see the hypocrisy with how oversexualized the design is while somehow being "woke" by letting a character's skin colour change at will like a coin flip?
>the entire novel is stolen and apparently illegal cause of plagiarism
Jesus Christ what a rabbit hole. All the replies just look to be people claiming racism.
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>>1224095>not to mention the whole validate dev team seems to be a hyperonline hotmess
haven't looked at them in a while and damn, apparently there's a big issue of unpaid work. They wouldn't have had this issue if they stuck with only one artist, or max three (character artist, colorist, background artist), but instead they hired more than 10 and they only do character art.
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>the hypocrisy with how oversexualized the design is while somehow being "woke"
also 30+ and hypersexualized is dating a 14 year old girl. Greatgalacktyka is very woke though, so it's fine now.
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>>1224116>it's fine cause the 14 year old is secretly a 1000 years old>wait
I feel like this hole is one that keeps giving. I wonder if there's anymore about Solange if people started digging since apparently the novel has been going on for a long time?>>1224115>what did they spend all that money on
I mean, one of the devs apparently stole from the game so…https://kiwifarms.net/threads/validate.69267/page-46#post-6948333
Wait didn't greatgalaktyka bitch abt proshippers/lolisho/"illegal" ships before???
Because shipping the character that looks like a 14 year old with the dominatrix big titty general isn't a good look.
(Might have mixed her with someone else tho)
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found this search
apparently there was a whole stunt with a/b/o and minors though
>Wait didn't greatgalaktyka bitch abt proshippers/lolisho/"illegal" ships before???>Because shipping the character that looks like a 14 year old with the dominatrix big titty general isn't a good look.>(Might have mixed her with someone else tho)
I ran into GreatGalacktyka from Validate discourse. They've been in multiple discourse over shipping.
I can't point to a specific instance off the top of my head about the "illegal ships," but I've seen it come and go through their twitter and their general crew. Often. From whatever discourse I've seen, their whole crew seems to be tumblr-rejects, you can guess about the puritan, holier-than-thou attitude that happens almost always on their twitters.
I saw an image of their graph showing how they would spend the money and iirc about half of it was to go towards merch* and they had a similar percentage of money dedicated to the artists, to the programmer, and to the music composer, even tho there's one music composer and one or two programmers vs 13 artists so I could already see issues with that.
* I gonna take a wild guess that most of that money just went straight into someone's pocket
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found something that might be close to the illegal thing? ones to the left are the original tweet and the screencaps to the right are them getting ass-blasted for the take, sorry for the weird quality
not shocked at all to hear that this is common with them>>1224150
the character is 15 in the main story apparently
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Isn't this the ValiDate person that always ends up e-begging for money to their PayPal from their followers whenever they get into discourse? They always demand and guilt-trip whenever they do too
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Yeah. They always ask for 'compensation' for their troubles. Why is the name on this paypal korean?
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their current page has them trying to ebeg for a $100 fucking Uber ride which i don't even know how that's possible even in super big cities unless they're travelling 30+ miles out or some shit
pretty sure they live in a big city so it's funny that they're asking money for a surgery that sounds pretty serious (some kind of tooth issue) instead of like… calling the office for some help? the subway? a fucking bus ticket that costs way less?
How is anything this person is saying radfem or terf
? She's literally complaining about "cis people". Are those just their special words for anything that makes them angry, kek?
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I thought the right image was just fanart but I checked out the webnovel’s twitter and yeah, that’s pretty weird.
I feel like if she wasn’t a part of THAT friend group, she’d get a ton of shit for having a black character whose design flips black and forth between looking like a black woman and a pale asian lady. I get the impression that all her characters were originally just asian, but she felt guilty about not having black characters so she just slapped blasian on all of them without thinking.
The bigger problem from that whole a/b/o thing looks like them jumping on a topic they had no fucking clue about from the looks of it.
The MtF and lesbian stuff sounds like a rabbit hole that isn't worth touching but that's just me. I'm just wondering how this whole friend seems to be so W O K E yet so ignorant at the same time with their own art and stories? How has no one picked up on a ValiDate artist making ships that break the lines of literal lolibait, lmao.
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Checked out that quiz she made https://uquiz.com/quiz/f5mbIn/what-a-0-character-are-you
Didn't initially plan on posting but jesus, how do you make a 9 question personality quiz such an unfunny slog?
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Holy shit those reviews made my fucking day, thanks for sharing anon, this is gold.
I actually forgot how old this artist is due to this quiz. This quiz reminds me of something you would find on the website Quotev with all the teenage girls trying to be edgy or cool adding roleplay quizzes and the casual 'Does so and so like you?'.
Currently on her twitter, she is claiming that she worked on this for a month. Her twitter kind of reminds me more of a 13-14 year old girl than a 27 year old woman.
I'm sorry for my last post for some reason it couldn't read the file that was saved.https://twitter.com/greatgalaktyka/status/1390094450333036546
Is her art degrading or is it just me?
this is a terf
heaven board, kid. Have a nice day
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The fuck is this?
radfem juice? terf
How are you someone working on ValiDate (A visual novel that heavily relies on visuals and art, even trying to promote it and get fans to make it as well granted even if bad) and suck THIS much at art?
Look at the way she barely knows how to even shade and color skin, granted it's hard for dark skin but the way she paints even if digitally just seems like something a kid would do. The middle left one is absolutely horrifying as I can compare it to a middle school art piece, she barely knows how to shade with that skin color and the colors clash. It's like her hair is connecting to her skin. How is she working on two visual novels but can barely draw/color things without it looking like a recolor which I don't doubt she traces and recolor pieces.
It's kind of sad how she's not only bad at writing but art. She's just not talented in the creative fields in general.>>1224536
I'm 100% sure the middle right picture is traced from a meme and the top right is traced from an e girls model/girl on pintrest.
Also reading the comments of her pieces, it's clear that she's really an amateur/beginner artist to the point she's in the phase of just recoloring and drawing over everything. She barely gives credits to the pieces we know weren't drawn by her in other posts like this one: https://twitter.com/greatgalaktyka/status/1390185901226090501
Doesn't matter if she's a writer and these artists are her friends, she should AT LEAST give credits. At this point, looking at these posts and the things she does, she's either very autistic or just a poor sad woman edging in her late 20's that was spoiled as a teen and a child and was pampered to believe she was creative and artistic to where she believes she can write and create things. It's kind of hilarious and what I believe to be what a lot of lolcows are now.
This is apparently a big issue with the novel's Twitter. A lot of genuinely nice (and I think wasted effort) fanart pieces that have no credit because… what, it'd ruin the aesthetic of the caption?
It's really sad. I can accept them being a beginner artist because art is usually a field people grow up learning as a kid than as an adult, but their novel really blows. There was a Tweet going around that I can't grab at the moment but it said it was getting PROFESSIONAL editing at some point?
At this point, I'm ready for ValiDate to blow as well and disappoint so many people or it to be popular for one week before it dies completely.
Although this is quite sad to say this and sad that this novel was supposedly professionally edited, but the fact that there's only ONE writer who is barely capable of writing good stories and scripts and plagiarized from another novel just kinda makes it expected how it was going to fail either way.
Maybe it'll show other people that they can't make a game/visual novel based on being a minority and nothing more, it's so annoying seeing many artists try to do this and say, "Why support this game made by white people when you can support a game made by black non binaries???"
Also probably good to teach these grown adults they can't live life through making people pity them.
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There's someone trying to start the harassment against EDA again, reposted EDA's artwork without permission, and shitted on the work AGAIN claiming that she is "drawing their gods into anime fuckboys" while she announces herself as "hot-ass lesbian native".
Lmao she blocked someone for asking if she played a game, she's just casually getting butthurt and blocking so many people while trying to laugh at the fact she got blocked herself.
Another Jay 2.0 who although can draw, will get into drama herself and cry.
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Why there are so many people like this in the US? jfc
This makes me so angry. This artist did nothing wrong. It seems like the most vocal of the defenders are actual Native people, while the complainers are mostly a bunch of weirdo white people who saw 1% Native American on their 23&Me test and never shut the fuck up since.
That "hot-ass lesbian" "first nations" person probably hasn't posted a selfie on that account, because you already know exactly she looks like.
Even worse, isn't the artist inactive now? What more do they want, a death sentence?
The artist came back but the OP keeps throwing tantrums and some white knights are trying to say it's okay to harass him due to sexualizing their culture: https://twitter.com/eda_log/status/1390318312148537346
You can also see the screenshots of the OP calling people nazis.
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It's always one of those weird people who found out they were 1% Native American to say something like 'settlersplaining'.
It's worse when these are adults acting like this instead of teens.
It's a shame to see artists and just any kind of creator not even be allowed to try and explore different cultures in what honestly looks like a respectful fashion?
EDA's art genuinely looks like they took the time and patience to put in Native American touches with proper research. But somehow it doesn't reach someone's magical standards because of an arbitrary rule?
I hope another social media platform comes around for artists that is more accessible (Artstation is a thing but definitely has more professional vibes) and filled with less circlejerking adults stuck in their own little bubbles.
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I would most likely not recommend anyone to be an artist for twitter for it's shown so many times that these are people who screech about diversity and cannibalize each other.
I had almost befriended two artists on twitter and saw so many red flags to them talking about things like this: Culture appropriation, flexing off their trauma and more. Twitter isn't a place for professionals or serious artists, but a place for politics and usually I never talk or say things like this: Pushed agendas.
There are many better spaces for artists but due to the fact Twitter is nationally big and trending constantly, it makes it hard for other social medias including Instagram to shine through. You just become sort of a mind slave or try to push yourself to be an artist at a popular platform to hope one day you become big or it can help build a portfolio. It's honestly sad and why I wish for popular artists to just remain on small art sites, call me optimistic but if they can use things like Art station or other places, they can at least show others that there's safer and less toxic
platforms to share their freedom of art.
Also I know this artist is 19, but it's funny how she's going after an artist for culture appropriation but is heavily inspired by anime, also her art isn't really that good compared to EDA's from what I can tell, just shows how much of these artists are jealous of one's success and tries to call you out when they feel intimidated or annoyed by your talents.
As shared, I have a long history with Solange and that whole group but this sector of art Twitter is really just a broken remnant of Tumblr starting from… Probably 2014ish? They finally all went to Twitter after Tumblr's silly porn ban some years back in December.
There are plenty of ways to filter out this "Woke Art Twitter" circle thankfully if you are careful and simply follow away from these groups, though it sucks that you can end up falling into them if you just want to see some interesting LGBT+ works not purely advertising on "we have minorities xD". Doesn't even begin to tread on tbe fact that these people are mostly American and thus think "diverse = black" when there's so much more to the concept, but saying that would get me Cancelled or whatever.
In my experiences with these groups, sadly, a lot of them are mentally ill and I feel like a lot of them lack the real life support networks to stop them from being terminally online. Solange is just one extreme case out of so many here.
Part of me feels sad that this part of Twitter are really just people taking advantage of other mentally ill people without realizing it themselves. The other part is just baffled that no one around them seems to notice their online behaviour lands on shit like lolcow.
>>1224645>hasn't posted a selfie on that account, because you already know exactly she looks like.
Oh exactly this. If you're going to pretend to be CEO of indians I better see a selfie.
Okay, real talk (as close as I can get without tripping the racebaiting rule) I'm not really deep in indigenous social media but the "indigenous" emojis and edited reaction images seem kind of larpey to me? Anyone else who runs in these circles, do you see them often?
Was about to repost from the other thread but yeah, legitimate question:
Why is it cultural appropriation for that Japanese artist to depict Native American aesthetic in their art, but it's not cultural appropriation for her to draw herself in an anime style?
I don't understand why these types think it's ok to indulge in anime art styles which is so inherently Japanese in aesthetic (and they claim whatever anime art style they cultivate as "developing their own style") but still act so fiercely defensive over other cultures.
>>1224674>Also I know this artist is 19, but it's funny how she's going after an artist for culture appropriation
This reminds me of a funny case about cultural appropriation. I don't know if anyone remembers the drama that happened on Twitter over a teenager wearing a traditional Chinese dress (qipao/cheongsam) to prom and doing some manners relating to the culture.
While Twitter raged on, a lot of Chinese people? They said they actually appreciated her exploring the culture and didn't find it offensive at all. Half the time, all these "Woke" people get angry on behalf of groups they aren't even a fucking part of.
>heavily inspired by anime
Even more shows of disconnect between America and everyone else. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmxmPg8duvw
Video above is Japanese people reacting to a kimono image that went viral some years ago. Most of them? Didn't give a single shit or even said they liked it.
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I barely noticed it was posted already, I was already scrolling through her art pieces she kept trying to promote. But if someone posted this too, then to be honest I'm kind of glad I wasn't the only one that noticed.
I just personally think these people are mental. It's also ironic that these are the same people who screech about Asian lives but then harrasses and bullies asian artists for their art and go on a rant about their own culture, ethnicity, and race.
She's still going by saying: Do you see me making my gods anime fuck boys? Our just drawing native people because I’m hot like that?
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Shit forgot the picture
>>1224680>I'm not really deep in indigenous social media but the "indigenous" emojis and edited reaction images seem kind of larpey to me? Anyone else who runs in these circles, do you see them often?
I think I might know what you're talking about. Can you share some examples or link to an Anon's post here?>>1224681>I don't understand why these types think it's ok to indulge in anime art styles
In my experience, I think this becomes a subjective and circular debate over whether not it's anime enough to be considered cultural approrpriation or just "anime-like"; they'd find some way to justify it.
In my opinion: the Tumblr art style is a mish-mash of too many things to point to one source. Alongside that is probably the overlapping trend of that whole cultural bubble already borrowing so much casually from Black slang and Japanese aesthetics that it's just normalized. Not saying I think that's necessarily an issue to outcry about per say, but I think this is them lacking self-awareness to the rules they try to call others out with.
TL;DR: too commonplace to point out anymore with a dash of hypocrisy/actually not self-reflective enough to notice this point.
Cartoons in a Japanese style dont hold the same level of cultural significance or importance to Japanese people as Native American cultural garments and regalia does to them.
It is disrespectful to Indigenous Americans/Canadians when people draw "cool cartoons" of their ethnic group who have been killed and tortured for wearing their own clothes or hair braids up until the 1990s.
It is not disrespectful to Japanese people when other ethnic groups imitate Japanese cartoons, because no one has tortured any Japanese people in a boarding school for drawing cartoons. They don't care about it.
I like how they use the word "notoriety", almost to imply that it garnered infamy of some kind.
I definitley don't deny people trying to pretend they're brown on Instagram because it's trendy (Kardashians, models and shit like that). Thing is, that image is trying to point to an issue that isn't applying with EDA's art?
>same cultures we were not allowed to practice
If EDA was Native American or any other race, this wouldn't change what looks like the authentically positive response to the art and thus, exposure to the culture and interest. It honestly reads like nothing more than gatekeeping quite frankly.
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Here are three I found while scrolling down her page.>>1224712
I wish more talented people created more content of my culture, but it certainly won't happen with these dickheads running around.
Tbqh the concept of (online) cultural appropriation is an extremely American-centric concept. Most countries love seeing their cultures depicted and celebrated. I don't disagree with the idea of it in the context of "please don't bastardize and make fun of our culture for easy profit while doing little to no research and misinforming the masses", that's a valid
complaint obviously. Someone just drawing shit from that culture though? It's not inherently racist and it's insane to imply that someone liking a culture is being racist. I guarantee this bitch was a weaboo too so how is she any better? At least the artist in question is respectful about their interest.>>1224701
I mean yeah, I understand why one is more protected than the other and why one has more historical background (though I do think it's kind of unfair to imply that anime isn't something very culturally significant to Japan, it was mocked for decades in the west as being weird and quirky and was practically deemed unmarketable to the mainstream until the mid 90's, after which Japanese culture was fetishised by weeaboos. That's a whole other conversation though, so lets not get in to that right now). However playing by their social media rules, one shouldn't be given a pass while the other doesn't get one, was more where I was coming from. It's the lack of consistency in what counts as cultural appropriation in these particular people's eyes and what doesn't. By their own rules, claiming a very inherently ethnic style as /their own/ is tantamount to colonist behavior but they do that anyway. There's such a weird disconnect there, you know?
Oh yeah, this sort of thing is super common with pretty much any ethnic culture. I don't have many opinions about it other than the trend being another part of how this part of art Twitter just generally communicates.
Whether or not it's LARPing would depend on the OPs behind it if I had to guess.
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this is so cringe lmao take a load of this narc
People draw depictions of gods (new and old) all the time. Scrolling through EDA's art, they seem pretty respectful about it and the "hot anime" thing just seems to be their art style more than anything else. It's weird because Shugs is clearly a weeb. So they're allowed to draw anime but the japanese person isn't? Would they think its more respectful if the japanese person drew it in a realistic style or a western style? It's all very moot-point to me. I agree there's an important discussion around appropriation and respect for cultures, but ultimately, this person isn't being disrespectful or breaking any cultural standard.
TD;LR western whitey is being a western whitey.
Made me lul. Thank you anon.>>1224724
This really feels like an Americal or perhaps a generic "Western" phenomenon but mostly a US one still. Simple answer I can give is just due to the country's history regarding several groups from several places in the world. All that tension is coming to a boil and has if the last few years have a anything to say about that.
People's sensitivities to seeing certain pieces of art, while I and I think a lot of people think the reactions are overblown, I _sort_ of see where it comes from.
>There's such a weird disconnect there, you know?
Pretty much. >>1224710>the fact that this artist clearly didn't draw anything offensive>why harrass people who simply want to dive into another culture?
Twitter is a bad platform for a lor of reasons but a huge one is the loss/unreadability of intent for so many people. Not surprising given how everything is limited to such small character counts. That breeds these sort of nightmares.
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It seems like she filtered the replies.
I'm not what Twitter would call "White™" by their standards if that helps. That's a really cool thing to hear about for you though Anon! Plenty more people should take creative avenues for cultures of their own and others. Even those that get labelled as having "no culture" like East Asia and many Europeans because apparently being pale negates you from this.
(Not like both of those places have tons of mixes anyway… Or the fact that most of us probably have generations of different cultures and nationalities in us somewhere down the line)
Is there any bigger sign of a native larper than "two spirit"
I'm pretty sure not all native groups believe in two spirits, and if they do, not in the hyperwoke way modern americans seem to think.
Also, it's kind of fucking offensive to treat any native imaginery/costume as 'religious'. natives were normal fucking people. They had casual clothes, and casual events. A lot of their geometric art is purely decorative, because like everyone else on earth, they had a sense of aesthetic.
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Why is ADHD such a trend now?
Have you ever notice how so many teenage/young adults claim to have ADHD now? Granted it is common from what I read the last time, but why are these people acting as if it makes them special and needs to be treated as such? Some of the people that are 'diagnosed' with ADHD on twitter just seem entitled and relate every daily thing that humans do such as: Twiddling your thumbs unconsciously, tapping your foot, even short attention spans as 'stims' and signs of it.
At this point I think the world has ADHD.>>1224755
It's hilarious how she's not only calling people nazis and white racists, but now wants to call everyone who is native men…But at the same time drew a sexualized (going by how she sees 'sexualized' characters) native man before.
"Despite you being native, your opinion doesn't count on native issues because you are… checks profile
a cis male"
Your opinions are irrelevant because … (throws a dart) (something that makes you less "oppressed" than me here)
There are tons of Native artists living off selling their own historically accurate arts and crafts, beadworks, fine tapestries, pottery, etc. but unfortunately there's a huge market for fake shitty imitation arts like the Kardashians, so they mostly aren't getting the same attention that a white girl indie brand or a twitter cartoonist who means well but didn't bother to research what any of the colors/feathers/garments mean before smashing them together. >>1224724>it was mocked for decades in the west>in the west
Japanese people don't care. Weeaboos and otakus are regarded the same in every culture, an embarrassment and mockery.
Colonialism doesn't mean "drawing in a popular toon style" it means "stealing an entire country with lethal force and making the people homogenous".
There is no disconnect. One is a trivial online thing that only you care about and one is a crucially important historically significant event.
I can't tell if you're purposefully missing the point or not, anon. You're talking to someone who comes from a colonized country and it's a big part of my culture so I'm familiar with what it is, thank you.
Kindly explain how stealing something that is not from your culture and explicitly saying it belongs to you doesn't fall under that umbrella, because it does. Significance is completely irrelevant despite your personal feelings on the subject, if one culture is taking something from another and claiming it is theirs, it falls under that bracket.
I personally don't care about weebs and I'm not trying to bat for Japanese people or trying to shame people, I'm pointing out that this girl is a gigantic hypocrite for doing the same shit but screeches about a Japanese artist "appropriating her culture" solely for the fact they drew artwork surrounding it.
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Of course the 22 year old furry/friend of hers is trying to defend her and harrass the artist as well lmao, Maple Wozapi is the innocent indigenous white girl who cannot ignore people critizing her and tries to make her situation worse. https://twoucan.com/profile/Shugs_Mcmaple
All of this is coming from the person who only draws nothing but popular characters as native americans and so much more, also got butthurt one time when the mlp creator put something that she saw as culture appropriation but continued to draw mlp either way.
At this point, either she's truly a teenage girl trying to larp as a Native American, or she is actually Native American but decided to make everything about her culture obsessively, like Blacktwitter.
No I get your point just fine, its just really dumb to conflate "drawing cartoons from a Japanese confluence" to bear the same weight as "stealing something that isn't from your culture". When Japanese official representatives agree to insist that they want anime to stop being "stolen" by every cartoonist who isn't Japanese, then sure Maple would honor that. But the Japanese government has launched several initiatives to spread Japanese pop culture and actively campaigns for other countries to copy anime and jpop and jfashion, even when its ignorant and inaccurate staring with japonisme in the 18th c. Native Americans hate when people make ignorant unresearched copies of their art.
You're making these hypothetical statements from the position of making up a false equivalency that has no realistic basis in human history to ground your argument.
terminally online people just never grow out of their extremely small word views. its the same way that everything is the end of the world to little kids, because their whole world is just the school yard. these people's whole world is the internet, so everything is so deep and personal and world-ending when it really doesn't have to be.
it's sad to watch. they need to get help.
>>1224842>because their whole world is just the school yard. these people's whole world is the internet, so everything is so deep and personal and world-ending when it really doesn't have to be.
Agreed, also the quarantine situation push people for not going outside. Theese people stuck in own bubble. I don't they are brave enough to take media that challenge their mind.>>1224755
Honestly I just feel really fishy about it. I think she only doing it for followers and try to represent what majority of Native American minds, I bet people who likes her tweets aren't native.
These people struggle with loneliness from my observation.This type of act like making fuss over smallest thing is way of coping, definitely not unhealthy one.
Loneliness is a one of major problem 21st century so that contribute to.
"aesthetic" and "inspiration" are diminutives in this case because cartoons are different than traditional regalia garments. It would be similar if maple were drawing geisha in inaccurate makeup and backwards kimonos. But even then japanese cultural spokesmen don't care about that, so it wouldn't matter. >>1224838
to maple she's "rescuing all natives" by being an embarrassing jackass on twitter because she would never actually donate money or volunteer at a reservation where people don't have plumbing or grocery stores. its all smoke & mirrors
It's ungodly frustrating knowing that it takes only one
of these mentally ill motherfuckers to castigate at least 50 Japanese artists who will in turn eject in panic and delete their entire being, running back to Pixiv and leaving their international fanbase in mourning. They can't even defend themselves due to having only very limited English skills so what else could they do?>>1224645>That "hot-ass lesbian" "first nations" person probably hasn't posted a selfie on that account, because you already know exactly she looks like.
Shocking. The person who's larping as a noble savage indigenous stunning and beautiful POC
isn't actually posting any selfies or showing any other proof besides wikipedia snippets about the culture they claim to represent. This bitch goes straight into the garbage pile already filled with "I'm actually Japanese but all my photos are from America and I never post a selfie" people.
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This artist drew fanart of a cookie run character and everyone is accusing them of white washing because they converted his cookie skin to human. I hate this community
saw someone commenting on that with "WHERE'S THE MELANIN"
you love to see it seriously
kek I feel sad for kids today who only can afford to play gacha shit and are stuck with some unbelievable toxic
fanbase. We used to just pirate our shit back in the day.
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another anti tweeting bs
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no but they are a hypocrite
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Solange/Greatgalaktyka has a habit of going on rants about not getting enough engagement on their webnovel, even ranting about the people who actively try and support such an endeavor. There's a lot I could say on this particular rant, but I'll let it speak for itself. Absolutely unhinged.
i wonder if solange realizes that black people and people from all kinds of races make content successfully
outside of twitter
because they they actually try to make a platform for their shit outside an echo chamber
someone should probably dm them and tell them that all those indie creators they wanna see prob don't use twitter for the same reasons they see no engagement, kek
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That's the thing. If they're so proud of themselves, why go on these hysterical guilt trips? If they're so certain of their talent, too, to compare their own…uh…talent to Puella Magi Madoka Magica as they do in this separate rant they wrote about it, how does it demotivate them to not get the specific, exact praise they wanted? "CEO of sad, dark stories", but you're super sad when people who aren't interested in these kinds of stories support your work from a distance? I just don't understand. The more I dig on this person, the more they boggle me.
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Update: As of today, DestinytoMoon/Orquidiaarte has locked her Tiktok account and has removed everything from her bio.
Other social media accounts such as her Instagram (orquidiaarte, her second account), Tumblr (both orquidia and orquidialgbt) and Youtube are still up. Seems like we are about to see an incoming purge from everything soon.
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Welp you reap what you sow
Genshin Impact already has a thread in /m/, sure it's not /snow/ but the retarded fandom discourse has been discussed there multiple times. It could use some fun drama instead of just anons blogging about their gacha results. >>1225181
Bitch really talking shit about PMMM because the girls didn't "act like real teenagers". No shit, I pretty much doubt the point was to show the struggles of teenage girls but instead tell a dark story about desire and obsession.
I feel like the "friend" part is bs. >>1225233> Wants to come back to Twitter anyway because she can't stand not being the center of attention
Well…How about no. Hilarious of her to start going "pity party" route so people would stop calling her our for destroying others online presence for no reason (well, the reason is jealousy and thirst for money).
So what exactly happened that made her fall? Did her girlfriend take her down with her? >This is a friend of Jay
Lmao sure. The good old "I'm having a mental breakdown this is my unnamed friend who's totally not me typing for me because I'm too scawed to face my own consequences uwu!!" strategy to dodge guilt and avoid having to face the replies calling you out.
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anyone familiar with FtM artist @nabihaiderali? i mostly follow her for her religious/cultural art because it's gorgeous. she's a muslim convert and a textbook case FtM: probably suffered sexual abuse, controlling traditional family, almost forced into a marriage to be made "normal", fat with low self esteem…but totally a man on the inside. no reason behind it! it was meant to be!
she was just published for a kids' book.
it's about loving yourself as a kid made obese by your own parents' negligence. imagine if you saw a kid this fat IRL. that's bleak.
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diet culture is bad because…it could make your morbidly obese sister sad. okay.
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actually looking up who @nabihaiderali is would help, anon. her bio says "butch, he/him" now, maybe she'll detrans quietly…someday…
I always found the "support black artists!" so fucking dumb. I literally don't care about your race when it comes to art, i only care about the aesthetic of your work.
I won't support an artist that creates pieces I don't like wth.
I try to respect people's choices about their bodies because it's not really of my business or quite frankly of interest to me whether or not people wanna be fat, but kids? That's genuinely fucked up.
I was a fat teenager due to hormonal issues and lost a ton of weight as soon as they were fixed. Fat people can say whatever they wanna say but being skinny/average weight is literally better in every fucking aspect. You care less about food, you feel better, you look better, people treat you better, you can actually EXERCISE. I still remember being in school and struggling like mad in all of my PE classes. To have an obese child is proof that something is seriously wrong and acting like it's a 'normal' thing is just fucked IMO either see a doctor or eat better or you'll have issues for life.
The creator of the Boondocks is a black guy who created a 3-season animated series centered around black culture and got half of the episodes animated by an actual prolific Japanese animation studio, Production I.G, something that's extremely rare. Your webnovel gets no engagement because it's shit, not because you're black. >>1225276
There's a lot of stuff to unpack with her already skinny sister going on a diet to fulfill unrealistic beauty standards and that's an actual problem that should be addressed, not some overweight kid having to lose weight. Someone with a BMI of 19 trying to drop 20 pounds is unhealthy and dangerous on a physical and mental level. But no, it's always about making fatties ignore the health problems that come with severe obesity.
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Am I the only one that can smell the incoming drama that the twitter tip jar is gonna create or what
Especially with our e-begging cows lmao
>>1225231> "This is a friend of Jay's typing a message from Jay"
Do I smell some bullshit that Jay pretended to be this "friend" all along and wrote this message by himself vaguely to his followers? Don't get me wrong, but if said friend (assuming they're from his own circlejerk) was the one behind this tweet and not Jay, how did they manage to know his account's credentials to post this half-assed apology thinking that their friend is automatically forgiven despite most of his harmful actions he has done in the past?
Going to give him around a week and expect how he magically change his personality outside the internet, would bet that he's willing to go back in his old ways the moment he's going to worry about losing followers after posting that statement.
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at least some people are holding them accountable (1/2)
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I couldn't help but roll my eyes at the part where she says, "Drawing a kid LUSTING over an adult is weird." Doesn't tv portray kids having small innocent crushes on adults and older teens all the time?
I found another video that was made one month ago but the op's voice is annoying, practically screaming:
The problem with BlogTheGreatRouge art who is still to this day get called out (according to others, I'm just observing) is the fact that they were affected by her art at the age f 13-14 (which to be honest, I would blame the parents for allowing full on access and no security to websites, a tumblr post said that their parents gave them social medias like musically at the time) to where they thought that the dark and questionable subject affected how they think and made their thought process fucked. This video kinda goes into more detail than the other annoying one where they practically couldn't explain why people are upset in detail: 'pedophilic art'. One character was 18, the other character being below 13 and shown practical sex scenes between them, many rape scenes (To be honest some just seem like it wasn't trying to pass as a sexual assault scene but maybe it's because how it's portrayed until they get into an actual comic where a character wanted to remain friends and got raped and suffer of course, trauma from it but it makes a joke about it) , etc.
I understand people realizing that these things were majorly uncomfortable and overboard as they grow, even I saw this as I was younger but had a few questions in my mind, but then again I moved on and blocked the person. I also find it ironic how these people want to protect children and say they care about those affected, but then there's clearly children/young teens who doesn't know what this means and they become up and arms about it and start blaming them instead of getting them to understand PASSIVELY what this means.
Also I don't understand the attraction in the first place of BlogTheGreatRouge's art, it's just flat and boring though maybe the fact it was undertale is what drew people to enjoy the art.
Also Rouge's response of course didn't help them in any way though it seems like they wiped their social medias clean anyways so you can't really find where they are actively.
Not in a weird sexual way, lust meaning very strong sexual desire, do you see little kids full on lusting over adults?
Or a child just going on a tangent and having a small crush they grow out of?
Why make that seem sexual or weird, I should clarify that it's not just in tv shows but in real life where you see kids talk about having crushes on adults anon, don't be a smartass.
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It can't be weird if it happens in real life and crushes aren't entirely sexual, what's weird about a dumbass kid liking someone older when we all did that before. Though it gets weird when the adult crushes back on the kid. Swear people take everything as sexual these days.
In other news, more people are criticizing Jay's actions on twitter including this tweet from a while ago(Sorry if it's reposted): https://twitter.com/SucculentBud/status/1390519002351419395https://twitter.com/Fuchsia_ff00ff/status/1388655045051310080
Also a new account that was made May 1st posted a lot of information of course from this site and Kiwifarms: https://twitter.com/FakingIs
I pointed this out since people are directing others to this and unlike the other account, this one is getting followers and people trusting them a lot faster.
I love this tweet that basically pays attention to how Jay and her friends call themselves the pillars of the art community.
It's just satisfying seeing more and more people attack her like how she attacked others.
Let's not forget, as long as you find a 'reason' that the person you're harassing is racist like: Digging up their past, noticing an artist coloring a character's skin lighter, or simply calling them out for their behavior then it's okay to harrass them.
Or used to be since now Jay's whole group is getting into trouble and their mutuals are slowly starting to cut ties with them.
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not her saying this when she and her croonies always starting discourse over any little thing
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ivy was female presenting at age 5 according to the kf photos that i've seen so i'm calling bs
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Why are yall so obsessive over your fucking follower count
>these people are in the constant fear of being cancelled.
hopefully this doesn't count as blogposting, sorry if it does.
i used to run with some of these circles and it's exactly that. winning arguments here is 'who is the loudest.' and whoever wins callouts is the bigger following with the bigger victim
complex. nothing to do with real, documented bad behaviours. i was basically an angry attack dog so that i would stay in their good graces. as soon as i stopped started employing some critical thinking, they made a whole scene about it.
getting cancelled next is exactly it, so they posture and fall into this culture even if they don't believe it so they don't 'lose everything.' but you learn to stop being terminally online, and that getting cancelled really means nothing in the real world.
these people would really stop acting this way if they had anything going on outside the internet. but followers, likes, and asspats are all they got. can't lose that.
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Updating on this situation.
People started editing the girls art because she "whitewashed" a cookie run character.
It's been a while since she logged on so people started spamming her last tweet, demanding her to respond.
She finally logged in today, obviously upset.
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For ref, heres the character in question
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The artist posted this a few hours ago, as well