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What was discussed in the last thread:
Yoshiki (X Japan)>is an attention whore, is still milking hide’s death and is so desperate for American recognition that his band even performed at Coachella>has a Russian sugar baby who’s nearly 30 years younger than him>announces monthly that the new album is 99% finished (it’s not)>hangs out with Marilyn Manson, Poppy and Titanic
Hyde and Gackt are aging terribly (plus the latter is possibly gay) and Atsushi Sakurai thinks he no longer needs to wear pants.
Kisaki (ex. Phantasmagoria) is a literal pedophile. And of course he gets away with it, because this is glorious Nipponland we’re talking about…
More can be found here: https://www.monochrome-heaven.com/topic/53544-kisaki-drama-2k18
Warning! Absolutely appalling details, pictures as proof.
At first I thought about making this jrock/vkei-only (because most conversations were about those), but then decided against it. Therefore you can also use this thread to rant about how horrible the idol industry is and how bad Ayumi looks nowadays.
The latest scandal: http://www.asianjunkie.com/2019/01/08/ngt48s-yamaguchi-maho-assaulted-by-2-men-fellow-group-members-allegedly-provided-them-info-told-them-to-visit-her-house/
had to apologize to her „fans“ for daring to speak out about it.
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Amen. As long as he doesn't go full thong, I'm quite happy with his newfound love for lingerie.
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Just stated that it was discussed, no judgement lol
I can't believe Kisaki still has fans…
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all those supposed connections and this is still the best he can get? i guess it is american and pays money, so that's enough for him. i'm 50/50 on whether or not the x album is actually going to be released, but it will definitely lead to yoshiki milking hide more, with a briefer mention to taiji
hyde's album should probably be out though, after he released a meh collection of singles in 2018. speaking of him though, anybody catch the photos from his birthday with gackt? guests included a (not pictured) yoshiki, hyde's usual hanger on daigo, and gackt's unusual friend roland. guests did not include many other people over the age of 45, jrock sugar baby jaejoong, and seemingly no women at all. gackt's been making a big deal of his 20th solo anniversary being this year, i wonder if he's going to have his own mediocre album out this year
Roland? I can't find him…? Speaking of him, I know this isn't jrock, but this was in my youtube recommendations and immediately made me shudder… What a creep.
Hyde literally looks like a tiny grandma and Gackt, looks like Gackt… His little servant (Takumi or something) is also always with him. Shinya looks so weird too.
That whole party was probably spent talking about how great Hyde is.
And I highly doubt that Gackt will release an album, he would have mentioned it beforehand, no? All he's doing lately is being in commercials.
I can't speak nihongo but what's even the context of this? If I were those kids, I'd be creeped out with his plastic surgery ridden face up in my shit. Shouldn't he be in bed with gackt or something instead of signing children's soccer balls?
The kids touching his hair was kinda cute tho ngl.
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I used to be into 48g back until… 2013-ish? Yuko was my fave and when she graduated I just stopped caring (the singles also just when reeeeally downhill after the whole KFC meme song)
I still love to lurk them for drama tho, I think new scandals like Mahohon's will come up to the surface and I hope AkiP burns once and for all lol
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yeah it's really fucking weird. Why is a manwhore something inspirational to children?
Also, I don't even get why Gackt hangs out with him? Roland is nothing but a host who spent all his money on a new face. Why is he in the j-rock squad? At least the other guys have some kind of actual talent.
Kek at that money necklace, how childish…
Ever since Roland quit being a host (which was only a couple months ago), he kind of blew up even more, is constantly on tv etc. (And for some reason japanese women do find him attractive - or at least pretend to)
Maybe he's buying himself in? And we all know that money is the only thing Gackt cares about, he hangs around with all kinds of semi-famous, rich non-musicians.>>14880
He turns 50 this year. I really don't get it, he's so rich, yet looks worse than your average dad. You'd think he could afford all kinds of skin care treatments and only the best stylists.
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If you ask me, Roland is Gackt's sugar baby. There's no way that fruit loop isn't a closet case.
Also, I noticed that since the first anti-Jrock thread, Miyavi has been posting and mentioning more of his wife, as well as Yoshiki making a point to be on camera with his Russian SB. Coincidence? Not that I think any of them would lurk here, I just find it interesting after the sperging over those women in the old thread.
I'd reckon he'd love to see Kisaki cash and burn (which will never happen though), but he probably also doesn't give a fuck about the women and her daughter who were abused.>>14884
So many people are making up accuses for him, even try to spin it around into him being pro-choice, but I can't believe that.
I feel like if it got enough fan attention, there would eventually be more of a scandal. Although with the way Japan and the idol industry is, unless her male
fans rage about it I don't see much being done.
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I actually get genuinely sad seeing Hyde like this. He was so pretty just 2 years ago.
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He literally looks like some cute grandma lol
I really wonder what he did wrong to end up like this.
Could this be the result of perhaps cheek fillers + botox? They look like botched cheek implants, but not quite 'plastic' enough to be actual implants, imo.
(also the clip of Yoshiki eating it on a skateboard from his insta was choice lmao)
He really thinks he's cute and quirky, like some dumb tween girl… >>14899
Good taste, anon. I'd second simply starting from their first album and working yourself up. Sissy Boy, Romanesque and Angelic Conversation are on of my favourite songs.
For albums, especially since you seem to like older stuff, I'd say Hurry up mode, Sexual xxxxx!, Seventh Heaven and Kurutta Taiyou. Six/Nine is very different, but maybe you still give it a try, it's suprisingly nice.
I'm rather disappointed in their newest album. The second last one also wasn't too exciting.
why is Gackt so cringy? lmao
when we were all teens we probably thought he was such a cool and unique artist and now we're all grown up realizing how retarded he looks and laughing at it. i love it.
Gackt has barely had his ego checked since the mid 90s. he couldn't have been much older than 21/22 when he joined Malice Mizer, so he was very quickly associated with one of the stronger names in visual kei history. there's all sorts of stories of him beating up various other musicians and roadies in the 90s, he leaves a well known band and has his solo career make him even more famous, he's making connections with all sorts of other celebrities far more famous than him. he's had plenty of criticism over the years for being cringy, but nowhere near enough to get through the fact that he's been having his ego stroked for about 25 years. him being (imo anyway) increasingly more unbearable over the last 10 years comes from the fact that he's had more criticism recently than he ever did before when his music was original, his singing was better, his face still looked like a face. the more articles and comments come out criticising him, the worse he's going to get
the man claimed to be a 500 year old immortal for years and was rewarded for his mysterious and unusual personality with media attention, money, and sex. i don't really think there's any chance of him getting better any time soon - not his face, not his weird instagram choices, not his occasional awful statements, and definitely not his deluded career choices
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Is it strange to anyone else that Hyde is playing a rock festival in Jacksonville, FL?? I mean… Nobody plays Jacksonville. This is a good little tour though, finally a Japanese artist goes somewhere other than just LA/NY/TX/VA.
A lot of them were married in their prime, I would say. But only my opinion and without any evidence.
I also look at Manas twitter often, since I still like the Gothic Lolita style (can´t help it…), and at least he´s just doing in what he is good in. Even though I sometimes wonder about the whole MMM-partys, with dining and so on. But the few fans left are pretty loyal, I guess.
I know there were rumors in the last thread about Yoshiki being married to his Russian sugar baby, but all I ever saw myself were a bunch of Chinese screenshots of her Instagram account with the name redacted and stills of him texting in Russian while on some TV show from years ago. I doubt he would marry a random Russian instamodel almost 30 years younger than him without showing her off for the arm candy factor. I also don't see a random Russian instamodel marrying one of the most famous Japanese men alive and keeping it to herself. I do believe he probably still has her as a thirsty Russian sugar baby, 1000%. Aside from that, I remember something about him almost
getting married like twice. I think he's closet bi, tbqh.
I'm interested, but as a Jacksonville resident who has been to Met Park, fuck paying Rockville prices just to see Hyde in a crowd of pretentious, sweaty classic rock fans and bandsloots. It's basically a giant lot with no natural shade or sun protection, grass and mud (usually), the security is super anal about bags and bottles too so they won't let you bring liquids ($3-5 bottles at the park ofc) and they search your bags. On top of that, it's underneath a giant fucking overpass by the waterfront. I went there once for World of Nations and decided not to go back, of all the places to hold good shows in this city and they choose the shittiest one all because they can capitalize on the heat and humidity while you're trapped in a gated lot in the sun with a couple hundred other sweaty people trekking through the mud. Not worth it for just
Hyde, even if I still was that much of a weeaboo.
I think Bou left because he was sick of being the girliest band member. When I brought my Cure magazines to school to look at the pics, my normie classmates would comment stuff like "she's cute, I'd bang her. You into chicks, anon?" when they saw me oogling pics of An Cafe and LM.C and the like. Bou was always styled like a girl.>>14966
I read a post on Tanuki translations that was a list of all the Jrockers that were posted being seen going to/at kyabas and it said "every member but Shinya" which gave me a laugh. I also read one that said he was into ageplay which I could see with all the Cheburashka shit. Shinya is the weirdest DEG member.
I can't. He probably works some shitty retail jop. Guys who were in vk bands can't get normal jobs, because of their past and because most of them probably aren't very intelligent or simply "normal" enough to begin with.
The only exception is Penicillin's Gisho. He even works as a higher up or owner of some business that not only pays well, but also allows him to occasionally still play gigs, so he really lucked out.
I also can't imagine that Bou was forced to have this girly image, it probably was something he himself came up with when they started out.
There were rumors on tanuki saying that Mana is married, but it's honestly so difficult to imagine lol>>14953
Yoshiki's gf is in the OP, no? He dated a brunette for some time, even took her to events, but no marriage.>>14966
Die is likely married (but said to be promiscuous), there are even pictures of her, but Kyo isn't - unless his wife is a complete doormat who allows him to play around with young women.
When pictures of Toshiya and that announcer surfaced they said they're only "friends"…lol
Girls on tanuki claim that Shinya is a complete freak and the longer you think about it, the more it seems that his shy personality really might be a facade.
Buck-Tick members are all married, minus Yuta who's allegedly a player and Sakurai is rumored to be divorced again.
I think the only ones who are officially married are Sugizo, Hyde and Miyavi.
Somebody in the kpop thread said that the scandals in the japanese music scene are much more extreme than korean ones, because the latter always try to lay low, but at least in the rock scene most japanese artists seem to be much more secretive than their korean counterparts imo.
What do you mean by MMM parties? I think nothing happens there really haha I was reading a girl’s blog and she said Mana is always his usual self. although he unexpectedly hugged her many times and even smiled, I think it’s maybe because he had seen her many times at events so he recognized her.
I think Mana is a very eccentric man lol
And since you mentioned his twitter, I was shocked at how good he looks even after all those years! He’s almost 50 years old and haven’t changed much.
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We've had some stage48 nostalgia in these threads, did anyone else prefer Hello! Project groups? They were always my favourites when I was in my 13 year old weeb fantasy of wanting to be a idol. The pedo bait stuff usually seemed a bit less obvious than AKB so when I was a young teen it didn't bother me as much, even though I find it weird looking back now just how young some of the idols were. I preferred their system of multiple acts with overlapping units, Buono! were definitely one of the best they had. The dances were more fun to badly do in front of a mirror, and something made it seem like it was easier to become a H!P idol, even when there's so many 48 girls now.
At the same time, Hello! Project, especially Morning Musume, always had way better scandals than just dating old men. This isn't very up to date but it makes me wish I'd properly kept up with all the drama at the time before it got harder to find, they make me think more of Johnny's groups where you really need to try hard to get involved to hear all the news and rumours. The "ugly Korean eyes" Morning Musume post wasn't until 2010. I actually think Produce48 would've worked better with H!P but there's a few reasons why that wouldn't happen, "Korean eyes" just being one of them. Anybody remember some good H!P milk?
>>14977>Guys who were in vk bands can't get normal jobs, because of their past and because most of them probably aren't very intelligent or simply "normal" enough to begin with. The only exception is Penicillin's Gisho
Ex-EVE (and currently CLACK inc.) Takeru has had an a white-collar type of job ever since they broke up.
He's a pretty normal guy and totally drama-free. I'm sure there are other examples, even though it's definitely not the norm.
I was talking specifically about vk guys who are still in bands. Of course if they drop their vk personas completely they may be able find a normal job no problem, but people managing both is a bit of a rare case.
anon wasn't wrong to say that ex-vk dudes may still have a hard time going back into society 'cause some of them are outcasts with no education and no professional experience besides playing in a band. But it's not always the case. Some dudes are just normal and have a normal life outside the band (talking about indiefags mostly, not those with a certain degree of fame)
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Gackt's doing a few things lately, the newest one being writing the lyrics for a BoA single, is he officially finished with weird cryptocurrency business decisions and just sticking with music and TV again? I haven't heard about any reviews for the movie he was in, but I get the feeling he's attempting to have a notable year for his 20th solo year. He's never been gone for long enough to call it a comeback, but he definitely has periods of just completely phoning it in. I'd like to know if he still has real singing and writing skills like he did at one point, or if he's just lost it and just has a massive ego now. His talent downfall isn't as severe as Ayumi Hamasaki's but she's going deaf, what's his excuse? He's been an entertaining mess for a long, long time but I'd prefer it if he could still be fun to laugh at but also put out some decent content.
He's either buying instagram followers or is getting more interest lately, though. He's gained over 100k followers in about 6 weeks.
The girl from NGT48 who was assaulted tweeted (what everybody already knew) that she really was forced to apologize by her management. Hopefully something will be done now, her tweets have nearly 200k likes and everybody, besides some edgelord pigs, are on her side.https://pingjapan.blogspot.com/2019/03/ngt48-maho-yamaguchi-reveals-company.html>>22199
All these girls who reveal stuff about bandmen on tanuki usually have already broken up with them or don't care if they find out. On the other hand the ladies he's with probably want to stay, since afterall he's a pretty big fish.
But the biggest reason simply is, that at the height of their career the internet and therefore tanuki didn't exist yet, so his flings had no possibility to share their experiences. And nowadays he's said to only go after older women - too old to still gossip and brag about their conquests on the interent.
I think that's because vk gossip places like Tanuki etc. focus on more recent bands. There may have been tons of B-T gossip back in the day, but I doubt 80's bangya would venture on a vk gossip forum to spill it.
I remember reading that Sakurai doesn't really fuck younger women and that he turned many younger fans down. He must stick to women around his age.
h!p will always be my fav anon!!!!
i was around when the aibon drama broke down and then the nono's drama!!! her marriage was so funny kekek
i wanna know the old guys scandals!!
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Ah I love his acting and I was pleasantly surprised by his music, it’s nice! His voice is alright but could use some work. Nice face though
Lol at that analogy…can you tell me where you usually watch variety shows or Japanese shows in general? They're really difficult to find.
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Thought this might be interesting to some people here.
This gya basically made a diary through this account about her time mitsu-ing for a vkei bandman from the band Kaitou Sentai Nusumunja (known for their parody songs).
There are some videos too of the guy spitting on her, yelling at her, call her names. (although, it's pointed away from any faces so it's basically just audio).
Most of these vkei dudes seem to be utter dickheads. The way he talks is obnoxious but I wish my Japanese was good so that I can read some of these tweets and texts.>>27085
Must be the loneliness problem Japan has.
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Was anyone planning to go to Rockville to see Hyde? Apparently due to severe weather his slot was cancelled, even though the rain wasn't actually that severe (Jaxfag here). Idk if this means ticketholders will be refunded or the show will be rescheduled, or if it means the event was cancelled for the whole day.
kinda ot but it's so annoying to see the western fandom on tumblr and twitter completely sperg out with their holier-than-thou attitude. They seem to think that the Japanese fans are against the marriage because of the dislikes and bash the Japanese fans 24/7.
Honestly the bangya are just pissed because he's so passive aggressive and treated all Japanese Kiryu fans like one big hivemind even though most fans were ok with the marriage.
Seriously since when did vk attract so many young tumblr retards
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Does anyone miss the 2000s jpop look? I loved the thin brows, golden dyed hair and nude lips. I hate how most acts and idols are following the basicbitch Korean trends. The kpop wave killed Japan's unique makeup and fashion style
tbh i don't think this was just a thing with jpop icons, it was really apparent with hostesses at the time as well. very minimalist and glamorous, but also street with a hint of punk.
i did like how jpop stars made wearing a tank top look fashionable.
>>32575>The kpop wave killed Japan's unique makeup and fashion style
This so much
The girl in the video looked so cute and happy, but now turned herself into a bland (and plastic) korean clone: https://www.instagram.com/erisagunji/
saged for ot
They aren't getting plastic surgery though or using the cosmetics in a way that mimicks Korean style. When you buy cosmetic brands out of country, you don't automatically want to look like the people in the country. Are you a teenager?>>32640
Ah, that's it! I honestly forgot there's sub categories of gyaru that aren't focused on super tan skin and heavy eyelashes.
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Just sounds like a koreaboo tbh.
I honestly haven't noticed a huge number of Korean fashion brands getting popular here. I mean there is Chuu and Stylenanda to an extent. But Japanese brands and styles are still way more popular.>>32681
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Boring musume's new song, as usual their songs suck with their lame dances, basic bitch look, ugly costumes and average vocals. They try to be sexy but it's just awkward. Idk who is worse, AKshit or Boring Musume.
Are you 12…?
sick2 are so irrelevant, I've never even heard that name and Yoshiatsu from Dadaroma is 1. ugly af and 2. forced a girl to get an abortion. Your uwu drama-less bandman is human scum.
And you really do have the taste of a preteen.
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Hello Project has been slowly dying for the past decade. I miss their glory days.
When 9/10th generation first joined it was pretty fun, Kobushi were great before they got scandaled to hell and back, and Country Girls (the best group in terms of personality IMO) doesn't really exist anymore.
I can only hear about Disneyland and Starbucks so many times before it gets boring, I have no idea why I still follow this dead company.
Lmaooo that made me roll my eyes so hard.
DDRM is one of the scummiest bands in the scene, literally no one can stand them and Yoshiatsu's antics are so infamous.
Pentagon aren't angels either, pretty sure they're kusomen too as I remember seeing Minpha's supposed dick pic he sent to a tsunagari. That was pretty early on in their career, too. I don't follow Sick2 closely but I remember reading something about them too very vaguely, I'd have to check out again.
UNiTE seems relatively chill and drama-free, true, but my favorite indiefag bandoman seems to dislike Yui, and I'm pretty sure there had been some unreported drama with EVE around the time Sana joined since they had broken up like one month earlier, so.
Either way, while there are definitely some chill bands out there, but sadly they're a minority, so I wouldn't go claiming the moral high ground on them unless you dig deep enough. These days indiefag drama doesn't gets reported nearly as often as it used to, you have to look up things for yourself.
kek this is the tumblr vk crowd right here. ~uwu my smol beans are pure~
Like no, DDRM are notorious kusomen that built their whole fanbase through fucking every single girl they see. Which is why they're still not successful after churning out so many songs and albums. No one wants to touch that band with a ten foot pole.
And where the fuck have you been to miss out the Minhpa scandals? He fucked some idol, has a ton of mitsu and even sent out dickpics. I think the Japanese fans even gave him a nickname because of it? Chin-pha I think? (=Dick-pha).
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Boring Musume tries to come off as relatable and sincere with their shitty songs when pretty much all of them has never worked a shitty full time job before.
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Anyone knows what happened with the girls from W? Or Double U?
I'm a old fan of W.
Ai was exiled for 15 years because of her underaged smoking and old man boyfriends scandals. She ruined a family because she shacked up with a man 30 years her senior as a minor. HP gave her another chance but she blew it when she got together with another old man and got caught smoking again. After she got kicked she went through a lot of ups and downs in her life, she tried to commit suicide multiple times, got into drugs and cults. She got pregnant randomly and married into an violent relationship, divorced and got pregnant again and remarried to a yaukuza member which ended terribly for her. I think her husband got arrested for fraud and other violent offenses, tried to restart her career as an idol but failed. Nozomi became a tarento and started her mission to repopulate Japan with her famous baseball player husband, throughout her career she stayed in touch with Ai and tried helping her out and because of Nozomi she was accepted back into HP after 15 damn years and was able to perform as W again with Nozomi at Hina fes 2019.
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I'm pretty sure Ai got addicted to plastic surgery at some point. She doesn't really look like herself anymore
Tsuji got pregnant by some actor from ultraman and booted from her shit, and started her career as a tarento and blogger. She has a steady following of Japanese haters (mostly bitter housewives) online that comment negatively on everything she does. (“Add some fucking potatoes to your curry! She calls herself a fucking housewife?”) Nowadays she’s more known for the hate against her, and if not that, being dumb/a ditz enough to warrant the hate. Her threads on gossip forums are literally PULL-tier. Imagine the PULL Kenna threads but for a Japanese celebrity.
She actually recently had her 4th kid and shows his face without stickers or mosiacs, which always did with her first 3 on her blog. She also posts a lot on Instagram with her husband if you are interested.
I honestly think it's just the culture of Japan in general right now. Pretty much every girl is an idol of some sort and it takes away the need to put yourself out there in order to stand out. The meaning of idol was changed by shitty akb and all the other flagship groups. People say Morning Musume was girl next door but during the golden era they at least had some kind of charm point. Akb changed that and went the quantity over quality route by just putting any random uggo in.
I feel like now HP definitely goes for the safer choices/girls they've already trained though which is crazy considering the most popular member right now is a rando from hokkaido. >>33979
Because they totally had a voice in the direction of the music video or their songs. >>33998
I think she mentioned she got a nose job sometime ago on a tv show. She definitely looks different and it's kind of sad considering she had one of the best visuals in Morning Musume.
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I always hated her eyelid surgeries, out of her whole face she got her eyes done the most.
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Didn't Ai do av at some point?
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2007-2014 AKB was the best, they had pretty members and their songs were good, now the fugly AKShit girls are in every movie, tv show, magazine, commerical and their shitty music is blasted all over the place. You can't escape them and their 70 sister groups. AKshit is like a uncurable cancer spreading across Asia. Is it really necessary to infect India and the rest of Southeast asia with this trash??
I found this article from 2015 no new updates though https://www.telegraph.co.uk/women/womens-life/11389277/AKB48-the-Japanese-band-too-embarrassing-for-Tokyos-2020-Olympics.html
Akshit's creepy president stopped forcing the underaged and mid teen members from doing the creepy gravure and bikini stuff because he didn't want non Japs to have a bad impression on AKshit for the Olympics. I hope they do get banned from performing
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KimuTaku and his horsefaced wife are currently pushing their daughter a ridiculous amount. That girl profits more from nepotism than the Jenners and the Hadids combined. At the age of just 15 (she's 16 now) she already won a best upcoming actress award (despite never having acted before kek), she's the official face of Bulgari, she was in a Chanel add and currently gets ripped into by by everybody for looking like the tiny japanese kid she really is in comparison to the normal models at a Chanel show.
She's probably the most hated person on girlschannel lately, there's no way she's gonna turn out sane after all of that. And they also put her into way too revealing clothes.https://pingjapan.blogspot.com/2019/05/koki-makes-her-runway-debut-for-chanels.html
Isn't she 18?
I don't wanna be mean because she's young still but that Chanel show was absolutely terrible. She looked like a teenager who sneaked in tbh. Her height is also questionable. She looks too small to be 170cm.
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I apologize for the shitty editing job lmao.
Also, as you can see it's pretty difficult to make out what they're saying from the way they're talking (or maybe it's just me)? Hence why my summary also seemed confusing
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The new Boring Musume members
Holy fuck, anon. Lmfao
I think I lost a few braincells reading this.
It's just pop/hip hop music, it's not "kpop" unless it's coming from a kpop company in seoul. She was going to pursue a kpop idol career in korea then changed her mind decided to stay and pursue a pop star career in japan. It's not like japan has never had its own pop stars before. But sorry, I didn't realize that korea owns pop/hip hop music and anyone in asia who does the same is copying them
There was an old tanuki rumor that she was being passed around between all dir en grey members… lol but nothing else that I know of.
She recently collabed with atsushi sakurai.
Disgusting how he got away with it
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julie kitagawa is in charge now tho
Luckily, they are now>>39551
Good. you know that piece of shit molested every child he recruited. Jin Akanishi of KATTUN had to leave japan to get away from him. Glad he did. I know Yamapi also left Johnny's Entertainment. Too bad Japan doesnt give a shit about child sexual exploitation.
*Anyone care to guess if X is officially disbanding or gonna actually release the album?
Sorry, my phone glitched and I never came back to check if it posted properly.
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Dir en grey are coming back to the states to tour this December, but they're ignoring the east coast altogether this time.
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Mingna Wen's daughter kinda looks like Kanna Hashimoto
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I think Hyde wants to do a US tour, he seems like he's trying to get in good with bands here lately.
Hyde has been kissing american musicians asses for ages already>>44950
Nobody is translating stuff anymore
I´d say they do rather well. They are not playing in hugeass venues - at least in Europa, can't speak for the US - but they are mostly sold out.
Any new gossip an Yoshiki and his big X announcement or can we see his wine collection - why is this so unbelievable random to me… - as the big deal for him?
I need to see that photo. Sounds hilarious>>44527
Well, ONLY doing nyc and no one else on the east coast is pretty fucked. they also chose a very small venue that sold out immediately. they jacked up tickets from $35 to $116 and the seating was super minimum. they're a buncha assholes to be honest. Not even attempting to play DC or baltimore anymore, even though those are big cities with huge pulls for shows.
Just recently he said rude stuff about europe and europeans too, he should just stay home.
He also does shit like sleeping at fan meets, so he really doesn't deserve a single cent from you, farmers.
Omg what did he said about europeans? lol
kyo sometimes looks pretty much like your average japanese supremacist
He said during a Q&A in the fall that he hates touring abroad because everyone is bigger than him ( he used the word dekai which can mean taller or larger bodied but foreign fans immediately decided he meant fat even though there are other words for that which he has used freely in the past), he can't understand the English or any other languages, and the food doesn't suit his palate. The only thing that he can eat is Mcdonalds. So he always stays on the tour bus or in the hotel room.
But, honestly, I was at that Q&A and he was being more self deprecating of his own faults and inability to acclimate to other cultures than denigrating towards Europe and Europeans.
He has said many times that he welcomes foreign fans for shows in Japan and is really happy when they come. He has also defended foreign fans when other people have tried to shit on them in interviews. Back in 2009-2010, when they were playing NYC, he brought out hot green tea at 3 in the morning to fans who camped out. He doesn't hate foreigners he just hates being outside his comfort zone and has a tendency to say shitty thoughtless things as a result.
Excuses, excuses. >he just hates being outside his comfort zone and has a tendency to say shitty thoughtless things as a result.
He's what, 45? He should know how to behave. His fans always brag about him being brutally honest and not bending to fake polite japanese culture, so stop trying to twist his words into meaning something less negative.>the food doesn't suit his palate. The only thing that he can eat is Mcdonalds. So he always stays on the tour bus or in the hotel room.
Lmao. All the food in entire europe doesn't suit his majety's palate. Again, just imagine if somebody said that about Japan, or whole Asia.
At vip meets they stand behind a barrier, so that you can't come too close to them, while kyo looks ready to murder everybody. They're only ripping their fans off moneywise.
I love you, anon.
Kyo seems like a huge japanese nationalist and probably hates any country or place outside Japan even though fans will give him mega bucks and he can retire before 50 at this point.
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I can't even stand looking at those pics, so awkward. Just imagine paying loads and then getting this in return…
As a comment says>You can tell they really love and appreciate their fans.
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In earlier meets they allowed the fans to stand with them but Kyo always made sure to stand and look as far away as possible.
>>45355>with no interest in his music or art but only in his persona
You really sound exactly like Kareki, I've read that exact phrase a dozen times on her blog already.
Everybody is evil and little Kyo is the eternal victim
. This is why the Diru fandom is shit, you can't criticise anything without being a "bad", not "true" fan - whether it's Kyo being a dick again, or the quality of their songs, or their questionable lyrics. There's probably not a single person on this earth who'd be considered good enough as by them, everybody is supposedly fake or too dumb to get the trve deep meaning.
I was a fan for years, but again and again heard about them being absolute dicks to about everybody, they and especially Kyo manage to sound like the most obnoxious, full of themselves people on the planet (despite him supposedly hating himself sooo much uwu), so that I really decided to quit liking them. Why should I or anybody else support human trash?
Buck-Tick are just as big as them, yet always stayed decent and humble towards their fans, interviewers etc (and as far as I know Atsush also isn't throwing weekly tantrums like Kyo does either…) Hell, even Yoshiki or Gackt seems more normal and charming than them and that means a lot lol
Tell me more about how fans are stinkier than aging alcoholic (and possibly disease-ridden) rockers living in a tour bus for weeks… There's nothing cringier than guys in their late 40s acting all emo and entitled, at least those weebs are still young and somewhat innocent.>>45367
What is english? What does integrating in board culture mean?
I'm genuinely sorry that other fans have spoiled your enjoyment of the something that much.
I think that calling them human trash is taking it pretty far. In my opinion they all have their good and bad days. They're only human after all. >Buck-Tick are just as big as them, yet always stayed decent and humble towards their fans, interviewers
With this I'm confused. I'm not sure what basis of measurement you are using. If you are talking foreign tours, Buck-tick has never been as active as Dir or other acts. If you are talking about in Japan, I've never heard of either group members being rude to interviewers or fans. And I'm long time fan of both bands so I feel like I've read and translated a lot of their interviews. Ymmv I guess.>>45366>As long as you're chill, hygenic and polite they're actually not that bad.
Lol. Sometimes even if you aren't.
I still can never forget that Kyo personally came out at around 3 in the morning in NYC to hand out cups of hot green tea to idiots that were camped out for the next night's show because it was ridiculously cold in January. Not to mention when Japanese interviewers have tried to shit on the foreign fandom, he shut that down really fast. So imo he's mostly ok and hardly a "Japanese supremecist".
And Die and Toshiya are often downright friendly. Kaoru is nice too but a bit more aloof and Shinya is generally shy but polite. But they all hate doing the VIP stuff and don't pretend otherwise.
Samefag. Meant to tag >>45364
at the beginning.
I didn’t know all this was going on. I didn’t know there were people that hate DEG so much, either. I’m a fan and I’m having an ok time. Honestly, ain’t really shit going on in the fandom nowadays. Most of the fans are adults now and the younger crowd is all into kpop.
Anyone going to see or has seen miyavi?
Because - as you said - the fandom grew up or isn´t even into Jrock anymore. Can be a good and a bad thing, tho.
Where are you from, anon?>>45352
Is it just funny to me, that this barrier is … nothing? They fans can reach them, run around the barrier and it just makes sure, that the band seems even shorter because of perspective.
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They don't just seem
short, they are
Florida currently but I've lived a few places, hence seeing them in Orlando, ATL, and Seattle. I plan to move to LA by the concert though bc fuck FL.
It's not hard to meet other adults with similar interests, it's meeting people you vibe with who also have similar interests and since jmusic is niche, it's doubly hard to do as an adult because of work and life responsibilities taking priority. I think if fan forums made a comeback and the fandoms got away from Twitter and Facebook then it would be way more chill and easier to organize and meet people, like have meetups at shows or whatever.
I've always heard Yoshiki is a colossal creep and asshole/drama queen, but all I've ever seen was him being really campy/metro and polite or kind of bitchy/spoiled. Tanuki has some raunchy rumors about him but they're a bit too wild for me to believe, so what makes him so bad? Everyone who doesn't like hom hates him it seems like. >>45397>>45398
Both shows I had VIPs to had no barrier, but we were told not to touch them or ask for hugs. I guess it just depends on how the venue wants to handle it?
You know the meaning of seem even shorter, anon?>>45402
Really?, I liked his music before more. It was more experimental and suited him much better. But it is subjective of course. But it also still is strange to me, that he thought this change was necessary becoming a Dad.
I liked his music before too, just that now that I'm older as well and I don't get the same thrill from hyperactive pastel-kawaii stuff that I did 10 years ago in my early teens, so I guess his newer music appeals more to my adult tastes vs my younger weeb tastes.
>But it also still is strange to me, that he thought this change was necessary becoming a Dad.
Mm, same. He lightened up when Airi got a little older but for the first year or two after the bombshell marriage+baby announcement he was really dark and… idk, stiff? Nowadays he seems happy and like he has a lot in the works.
I went to one of their shows in 2011, and did the meet and greet. Got a picture with them and was really disappointed how bored they all looked in it. I saved for months for that shit. The Apocalyptica fans across the way at their meet looked like they were having a blast with the band, kek. Shoulda saved my money.
Never went to another show. Thought their stuff after that sucked anyways.>>45458
Sage you fool
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I don't even use Instagram and it took me 2 seconds to find. Chill.>>46861>>46862
They're definitely extremely similar, obviously Kaoru's work is inspired by this artist's style even if he won't ever admit it. Have DIR reached a point where in their jaded mediocrity they honestly think they can just rip off anyone outside Japan for money from their Japanese fans?
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Maxime's art on top, Kaoru's exhibition poster on the bottom.
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I see this montage of this merch and one of Maxi's art.
i don't know dir en grey's merch, i never buy them i just saw this in tanuki lol
Ah, I love this, serves obnoxious Diru fans right. Their precious, oh so creative, better-than-any-other(western)-artist leader sama is a lowly copycat lmao
I just wish it would've been Kyo instead…
it's an imageboard nonny
>Evening/Breakfast with Yoshiki shows>X Japan/Evening with Yoshiki merch ($$-$$$)>his overseas Yoshiki fanclub thing that charges $4.99/month>Yoshiki wine, Yoshiki curry and his various other branded consumables he's done over the years that you can still buy online/in Japan
He has a lot.pf little things and probably royalties to fall back on, and I heard he had a hand in creating a few gimmick bands that got decently popular like Babymetal so it's not impossible that he got a little kickback from that if so.>>47367
Kaoru is the last DEG member I'd suspect of this type of thing, but oh well I guess because it seems like nothing is going to come from it.
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>>47433>He has a lot.pf little things and probably royalties to fall back on, and I heard he had a hand in creating a few gimmick bands that got decently popular like Babymetal so it's not impossible that he got a little kickback from that if so.
I know he had a hand in creating that weird kpop(?) band The TRAX. He even styled the drummer to look like himself.
Thanks for reminding me about the dinner with Yoshiki bullshit. Doesn't he charge a few hundred yen for that trash? I wish i knew a breakdown on the event. >>47433
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Has anyone seen this?
still alive, if you mean hide Matsumoto then probably yeah. The legend of his drunken antics rivaled Yoshiki's
Plus hide was friends with Marilyn Manson and was set to do a US tour alongside him with Zilch (I think?).
I never heard any rumors/stories about hide and MM, but I know hide supposedly spoke decent English so I guess them being good friends isn't too unbelievable, plus it would explain YoshikiXManson being friends.
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Kareki getting worked over some shit, as usual. This time she had a long debate about some stupid silly piece of fanart being humiliating (it isn't, it's funny, but deg fangurls know no fun). At one point she even claimed fanart like this would be illegal, just ask a lawyer, rofl.
I really don't get those crazy old ass fangirls who still lust after the aging goblin and will go after sane fans.
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Has anybody in the US gone to any of Hyde's shows? He's in your now with a few big American bands, it seems a bit strange for him to be there but he seems to be enjoying himself. He must really want to break into the west like Yoshiki did.
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It looks like Shinya became a game streamer? He was the last DEG member I'd expect to be into games like Dead by Daylight.
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Yoshiki should release an "How to stay rich and relevant despite not having made music in 20 years"-guide… Dude's literally doing anything for money (besides actually working) - and people still eat it up.>>58572>larc at their prime
He's also touring with Sara Brightman soon, so maybe he just can't make any of his own
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The word around Twitter is Kyary Pamyu Pamyu is a pedophile.
What do you anons think? Mistranslation of her blogs or should she be locked up and key thrown away?
Some people had known about this for years, but this is the first time I've heard of this.
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she apparently was crushing hardcore on this "p-chan" dude when he was 12 (he's 19 now) and said all of this and behaved all creepily, apparently even said that she tried "nicely seducing him"
idek what to think of it tbh, it's kinda stupid to call her out on this now because it was 7 years ago but at the same time it's really disgusting
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huh interesting. P-chan is that boy who was her background dancer! His instagram is p_tempurakidz
Couldn't it be that she just meant something along the lines of "he's such a cute child, I want to cuddle him and pinch his cheeks"…?
Kind of hard to believe. Why would she write that publicly if she really was pedo? Hopefully itvs fake or just a misunderstanding. Kind of ironic that this is trending in Japan - there everybody can openly by "lewds" of preteen girls…
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I asked the same.
The replies to some of the tweets about p-chan are definitely something else. 1st tweet is someone saying how they recently started getting into elementary school students. Second tweet is saying Kyary is now their competition because they've shotakon as well.
There's also a picture from 2015 she posted with some young boy model and it's captioned something along the lines of "a shotakon had to have taken these". Someone asked her if she's a shotakon and she replied "maybe a little (side eye emoji)"
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She posted a picture of her phone case in late 2017 that says lolicon on it
When people get old they tend to age.
The dude is in his 50's of course he will look old
This is super creepy. Is kyary even still relevant? I remember her doing some weird collab with Katy Perry years ago >>70363
He looks like shit, especially with his obvious fillers
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People saying the tweets are fake or mistranslated for Kyary are dumb. Now that she's going to coachella maybe people will realize how gross it is. She's literally saying she might be a shotacon because little boys are cute. https://twitter.com/pamyurin/status/215283147842138114?s=19
Here's the direct link because people really try to say everything is Photoshop these days.
Kyary's a creep even Japanese people are talking about how gross it is.
Lol Korea sent Black Pink last year and they were embarrassing af. Whereas Japan sent Perfume and they were surprisingly really well received. So go figure. This year Korea is sending Big Bang which I think has the potential to be an interesting set.
I wish that Japan would send some of it's more popular artists like Aimyon, King Gnu etc but I guess they don't need to.
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op part deux
YoshikiXPoppy, why is this so strange to see? What is Yoshiki even doing anymore? Poppy's new musical shadowpuppeteer?
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This is old and I'm sure you've gotten most of the milk by now but maybe someone else who reads this thread would be interested. Anyways, as we all know by now, a couple of girls from NGT48 were bullying Yamaguchi Maho quite a bit because she complained to management about them being out with the more unsavory type of fans and drinking with them. The girls didn't take kindly to that so they gave Maho's address to those guys who ended up assaulting her.
NGT has always had bullying rumors and one of the members even confirmed before the scandal on a variety show that a lot of the girls are mean to each other and talk about each other behind their backs. (Ironically enough she was called a liar by fans back then and got quite a bit of backlash lol)
The fans ended up figuring out who the girls were that gave Maho's address out and one of them basically outed herself by being a retard and posting pic related on her public instagram account instead of her private instagram account. The picture is of Maho's, and her other NGT friends who were also victims
of bullying, graduation live (ie. their goodbye live before they left the group)
"“Even though I’m doing my nails I want someone to change the channel.”"
People flipped their shit because of this whole situation and basically both NGT and AKB are widely hated now and the mayor of Niigata banned NGT from doing promotions for the city and cut all ties with them.
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Are those kids idols with the extremely creepy old male fans that keep being brought up in the anti kpop thread really a thing in Japan or is it just rare instances that have been blown up by the internet? I refuse to believe any parent would be ok with putting their child in those situations. Who the fuck would be ok with softcore porn images taken of their child?? Pic related, spoilered because creepy.
What's the deal with Yoshiki hanging out with sooo many shitty, abusive
people? I know Marilyn Manson used to be friends with hide (which raises questions as well, but with him being dead 20+ years there's probably no info on him in English) but Yoshiki presents himself as this kind, empathetic type which directly clashes with like, half the western celebs he takes pics with. Not to mention how he got in hot water for the picture with Jackie Chan a few months ago.
Is there any dirt on Yoshiki? He's always around but never really does
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I cant even click the link because i'm angry just looking at the thumbnail, but Japan needs to fucking sort out their extreme objectifying of children.