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No. 854673

As the title says.
Post experiences, why you can't stand them and such
Please refrain from coming in this thread and say stupid shit like "Oh that's why nobody likes me" or "Damn seeing this thread as a [thing] sufferer makes me uncomfortable" because nobody will pity you.

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No. 854684

Generalised anxiety and social anxiety. I know it's like seen as a run of the mill disorder but I fucking hate living with it.

I have a lot of shitty relationships and would love to form brand new ones but I hate approaching situations alone lol so I don't know how to make good friends. I had a great friend group but it broke apart in my early 20s and I haven't found a group like it since. Hanging out with them was relaxing and stress free.

I feel stressed and anxious around a few of my other acquaintances and I don't know why. It makes me avoid social interaction with them so then I hermit for days. My family are a major source of stress for me so I avoid them too.

I feel very isolated and want to change but I get cold feet anytime I tell myself today I'm going to try this new thing and be open to talking to strangers. But it never happens

No. 854713

>>854684

I thought this was my main problem for years until I figured out I'm almost certainly an autist. It explains why "being confident" just made the disasters worse along with "just being myself". fml

No. 854950

I can't deal with people with anxiety. They annoy me and are draining to be around. You constantly have to filter yourself and coddle them because they're too fragile. Have an issue you two need to hash out? Too bad, they're cowards and will avoid you instead of just solving the conflict. No thanks.

No. 855160

>>854950
Hate to break it to you, but that’s definitely not what having anxiety is about or like. Looks like you just have really shitty friends

No. 855168

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>>854673
I don't know what you'd call the disorder itself but I ABSOLUTELY cannot STAND spendthrifts.

Growing up my family was extremely poor. We frequently had no food in our fridge, no cable, no toys for the kids, no bikes, no nothing.

But my mother always had herself dressed immaculately in expensive clothes and makeup. Every single day a new box full of goodies would arrive in the mail for her.

Come to find out, my stepdad makes about 80,000 a year. The only reason we lived in poverty is because my mom spends nearly all of it on herself.

She's actively harmed herself, her husband, and her children just so she can spend hours and hours looking at trinkets and scarves. I can't understand how she's okay and guilt free from all the damage she's done.

Even now that I'm an adult and completely independent from her, she's constantly asking me for money and plotting.

The other day she told my brother that I owed her a bunch of money and asked him to 'lend' her some money to cover what she'd borrowed from me.

My brother called me pissed off asking why I'd borrowed $800 from my mom and demanding that I pay him back.

Fuck I hate greedy people who spend solely for the sake of spending. Not only is the action of excessive spending itself wasteful and harmful, but it requires toxic behaviors on the side to upkeep.

No. 855171

>>855160
yeah that honestly sounds more like a personality disorder

No. 855176

>>855168
Ngl I wish is more acceptable to beat up your family members who are like this, just so fucking toxic and annoying to live with goddamn. Sometimes a punch to the mouth fixes behavior

No. 855184

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whatever point on the autism spectrum they become this dude. they seem to thrive in college film classes; good luck uttering a semblance of an opinion in class without them trying to pick a fight with you about it

what is it that makes some autists super quiet and reserved, and others can never shut the fuck up?

No. 855187

>>855184
men in communication classes as well

No. 855203

>>855184
>what is it that makes some autists super quiet and reserved, and others can never shut the fuck up?
The y chromosome & being indulged by their mommy for every inane idea/sentence.

No. 855220

>>855184
thats just males being male

No. 855233

>>855171
Not trying to fight with you guys but just take a looksie here >>854684
>I hate approaching situations alone
>It makes me avoid social interaction with them so then I hermit for days
>My family are a major source of stress for me so I avoid them too
>I get cold feet anytime I tell myself today I'm going to try this new thing and be open to talking to strangers

No. 855393

>>855233

Right but while it meets the criteria for general/social anxiety disorder (and so is) the underlying root cause could be autism. Same with avoidant personality disorder. It meets the criteria but could be autism at root.

No. 855504

I'll shoot it down easy: BPD.
Immature fucks with a hint of narcisism in which they feel entitled to everybody's life, emotions, time. Also I don't know in which category they fall into, but super religious, to the point of being scared, people. I get having faith but what's the point if you live in fear that something bad would happen? Isn't that more of a stress?

No. 855506

Anorexia. When I was in middle school I had two friends with eating disorders and the friendship with them was hell on earth because they almost managed to rope me into it and project their shit on to me.

No. 855514

>>855393
Yeah your armchairing is definitely better than the diagnosis queen.

No. 855523

Not really a disorder, but I hate "average" people whose literal only life goal is getting laid. At best their hobbies are watching trashy reality TV with hot people they want to bang. I don't understand how your life can be so vapid.

No. 855525

>>855523
Being a normie isn't a mental disorder nonnie

No. 855656

>>855525
>>855523

I would say it's pretty unhealthy to expect yourself to find the "one true soulmate" and thinking it would improve your life forever. That's how you end up with incels who think getting a gf and becoming a alpha chad is the true meaning of life.

No. 855701

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This was mentioned at length in the last thread but BPD. Friend of partner has "either BPD or narcissism" not sure why the fuck you would admit to this, especially the latter, but ok and is an all around drain to be around. Last time we had a conversation she remarked that her flatmate's collection of tools made her think about just how many ways there that she could kill herself in their apartment… said with a smile. That and she forgot my girlfriend's birthday even though they're supposed best friends.

Unpopular opinion, but I actually find autistic people refreshingly easy to be around. I never have to guess what they're thinking and you can always be straight-forward with them.

No. 855715

Autists but only when they're enabled by a nerdy/reclusive friend group, whether online or in person. The male ones of this sort are so unbearable and are massive perverts but you can't retaliate because "aww they didn't mean it"

No. 855737

>>855701
Maybe it's a context thing but I don't think forgetting birthdays or an offbeat joke about all the ways you can kill yourself is that bad or even that bpd

No. 855803

>>855525
varg would disagree with you. the real disorder is not being autistic

No. 856046

I can’t stand drug addicts and alcoholics. When I say this people always say “buh buh you don’t know how hard it is!” Actually I fucking do? I’ve kicked my own addictions and improved my life and I don’t cry and bitch about it. I’ve grown up surrounded by drug addicts and alcoholics and I just have no empathy for these scummy ass people anymore.

No. 856048

Hate Type-A people constantly hustling or concerned with status. People like that only care about how they appear on the outside. They will discard the "useless" with a quickness and split on you

No. 856092

>>856048
Gosh yes, I hate those people too, their only personality fragment is "corporate ant". It has gotten so bad that the first question is always about your work and if they don't like what they are hearing bc they can't use you for social climbing they either won't bother talking to you, give you the stink eye, or go the pity route and bitch about how they have it soo much worse than anyone else in the world and that they are soo busy. While doing that they will also humblebrag in the most annoying way for over an hour. I'm so tired of the busy olympics. People who describe themselves as Type-A are the absolute worst and should try to pull out the stick up their ass first before polluting anyone with the crap that is coming out of their mouths.

No. 856101

>>855523
ignorance is bliss, as one might say. honestly… i agree. cows like sammie violet bushart are a perfect example of these types. like, they're just on autopilot. i had a grandmother in law who was like that, she just did things, just because. even my family members would discuss about her, "she's not all there"

No. 856170

>>855168
Anon that’s just awful. My mother used to sell her Jimmy Choos or take from my Dad’s wallet to pay for our birthday presents.

Many parents go without food to provide for their kids, I’m sorry you didn’t get that selflessness that all kids deserve.

No. 856174

>>856046
Same except I never suffered from addiction myself and had to deal with my big sister doing drugs in high school and my parents thinking I was going to be as batshit insane as her just for being her sister, so I was treated like garbage by all of them. I'm including normal smokers here too, I hate how they think they're hot shit because they stopped chain smoking and it was soo hard. Maybe don't smoke in the first place?

No. 856175

>>855233
Since you're using my post ad an example I don't think I have autism. The doctor has confirmed my anxiety diagnosis. I was a team captain in highschool and very outgoing. Extra curriculars and good grades. I was getting abused by my mother at home and my anxiety has only gotten worse the older I've gotten I think because I've had two boyfriends of 8 and 6 years also beat me so I think my confidence just took a massive hit and coupled with my mum beating me everyday from 10 years old I am wary of people.

I live miles away from my mum but have some friends that live near her so if i want to visit them since covid I would stay at my mums. But even as an adult staying over at hers triggers me and I want to go back to my own place. I honestly think I get stressed seeing my friends that live in my hometown because my hometown stresses me out. I live in a new town but without any friends up here I feel awkward trying to meet people since I've been WFH.

No. 856194

People with anxiety are infuriating. From the outside, it looks like constant excuses and a "get out of jail free" card. It doesn't help when it's selective.
Also, so many of them let their anxiety become their entire personality. If you ever spend time with them, you can guarantee they make the whole thing about their anxiety. It's either panic attacks or constantly pointing out that they "can't do" things. You're never going to feel better if you don't ever fucking try to do things. I'd have thought they'd at least have the good grace to be ashamed, but most of them are sly and actively manipulative after years of getting what they want because muh anxiety.
It's one of the mildest mental illnesses and yet it's the one you hear most people bleating about having. I'm talking about people with diagnoses, too, not internet people. The depressives I know are far more bearable, and yet seem to be struggling much worse.
In conclusion, anxiety = limp dick disease

No. 856202

It's tiring and annoying to be around someone with orthorexia and anorexia tendencies. The first ones often do stupid unnecessarry shit which is not healthy and can't help but notice what you eat and often say something about it, even jokingly. They can't just simply have a piece of cake and enjoy it, it must be said how sinful and wrong it is and that it'll make their butt grow. Shut the hell up.
Those with "anorexic tendencies" as I call it (they're not really anorexic) or people with BDD who project their insecurities on others just won't relax and NOT constantly inspect every passer-by to say something about their weight or hair or something else. It's such a drag.

Also, I think no one really likes an NPD person, but I just had to add it. I used to tolerate people like that because of low self esteem and poor boundaries, and because some were fun to be around (I don't really see it now though) but it's really not worth it. Especially after you've encountered a few, you start noticing that they're all… kinda the same? How really insecure they are and how they try to put you down, how ingenuine they are when they're "happy for you", how they're focused on all around them and think that everyone's looking at them and interested in them (my ex friend would even speak louder around people that caught his attention, and it was usually some controversial and edgy stuff), or how petty they are when they envy someone. And there's nothing really interesting about them, everything is so surface level. It's all so boring. And freaking tiring as well, you can't even let your guard down, and for what?

>>856048
Hate them too, but not only the hustling subtype. It's just generally annoying to deal with someone who's always in a rush and expects others to adjust to their tempo. In some cases, people like that see you as downright retarded if you're not running around like a blue-arsed fly and would occasionally deliver an uncalled motivational/judgy spiel. If you're introverted or reserved, you're too shy and have to open up, if you don't have the same goals as them, it's hinted you don't live to the fullest etc.

No. 856204

>>856202
I'm pretty sure my ex had NPD. The speaking louder when he thought he had an audience listening but he was just being obnoxious in a public setting. Never could be happy for any of my accomplishments even had other people point out that when he would (often) criticise someone else it was a projection because he did if not did worse than the person he was putting down. He was so focused on his reputation and would constantly police everyone around him yet he was the one always acting out the most. He was honestly perplexing. Like is he self aware or the most ignorant man alive?

No. 856207

>>856101
I grew up in a small community where all people do is either drink/do meth or have babies in their teens and early 20s with people they don't even like. Most of my town is like this, with no sense of forethought whatsoever. I was bullied a lot as a kid for not being like them and not wanting to get married to some alco and pop out babies as soon as I graduate.

What disturbs me the most is that they just don't think. About anything. They're not stupid people exactly, but they seem utterly unable to imagine things that other people outside of our community may do. They just don't see it as an option.

I have this conversation with my sister on a regular basis
>Sister confesses she hates her life, she doesn't have money and is exhausted being a single mom on food stamps
>I ask her why she wanted a kid
>"What do you mean why? I was 25, that's when you have kids. What else was I supposed to do?"
>"I don't know sis, get a job, not have kids? Have them with someone who doesn't do drugs and has a job?"
>"But everyone here has kids at that age, not all of them have jobs or husbands! How can you not have kids?!"
Motherfucker everyone here is poor and dysfunctional and you're all knowingly breeding even more poor and dysfunctional people. Most of them don't even want kids, they just have them just because. These people, I swear.
>>856046
I agree with you, fuck em. They ruin everyone else's lives on top of their own. I don't care for them, it's not my job to be broken people's rehab.

No. 856209

>>856202
I love my friend but they have just become insufferable when it comes to their anorexic tendencies. She's beyond upset that she's overweight (not even by a whole lot either, id say she's just a little chunky) and all she ever wants to do is bring up the fact that she only had 500 calories today or she wants to throw up whatever food she just ate. That shit is stressful as fuck, especially since we're close friends and I try to give her helpful advice on how to SAFELY lose weight but she just… WONT FUCKING DO IT. A mix of anorexic tendencies and depression is just fucking awful. I've never met someone so hardheaded in my damn life. How could you possibly be so upset about something and yet not actively put your foot forward in the right direction to make it better? And we both have clinical depression, she just takes that shit to the max I stg. She needs to be medicated but won't take her ass to the doctor because she's 'scared', like are you fucking kidding me.

No. 856211

>>856207
For real I do not get people that just have babies and then shame others that actually put a bit of forethought into it and planning. I do think it's nice that they have their mommy friends and that's probably a plus having that support system. Sometimes I get jealous, they're always hanging out at the pool together.

No. 856214

>>856211
In my town there isn't much of a support system to speak of. Just constant infighting, petty arguments and sometimes physical altercations. They're not really friends, just people who had kids at the same time and caved in to peer pressure. Not to mention that they are all poor so they keep evidence of whose child ate what at whose house and how much they are owed, most of the fights are about that.
Personally it's not a life I'd like to live.

No. 856967

>>856207
Honestly, I have a sister similar to this. Thankfully she's younger than me, but she also does things mainly because everyone else around her does them.
>>856046
Drug addicts are literal demons and set off my anxiety terribly. I went "straight edge" the moment I turned 21 and have been happy drug and alcohol free since.
Addicts should get treatment, but so many of them don't want the help and forcing them doesn't work. It's useless even trying. I've seen a video of this woman and her drug addict sister who ended up on the streets and the woman would often go out and politely ask her to come home to get the help she needs, the sister refused. At that point, leave the sister be, and that's what she did.

No. 857749

I have nothing against schizophrenic people personally and i feel really bad about what they have to go through but holy shit, idk what it is about me but i am a fucking schizo MAGNET. it's mostly online thank god but i swear i'm always either finding out an old internet friend has gone full schizo and now have to try to avoid them so i don't set them off and make them think i'm giving them a "sign", or someone close to me irl is dealing with one, or most often i stumble upon random strangers' accounts completely by chance and immediately realize they're heavily paranoid and deluded (and it is always, ALWAYS on twitter). like i said it's really sad, and threads of cows on here like KT are uncomfortable to read through, but it's also like…. such an obnoxious burden to deal with that i shouldn't have to deal with. my bff's schizo cousin has almost killed his family like three times to the point they're relieved he's gotten himself in jail, and a guy i knew irl but mainly befriended online has gone off the deep end and i dodged a huge bullet by falling out of touch with him when we easily could have become good friends so i'm able to ignore him without feeling too terrible.

lol sorry this was long, i was just set off tonight because i have this one rando on twitter who will @ or quote tweet me calling me a "pig" once a year because of a tweet from fucking 2017 where i talked about eating leftover cake and i thought i blocked him but he just did it again and now i feel grossed out

No. 857761

>>855184
>what is it that makes some autists super quiet and reserved, and others can never shut the fuck up?
Coddling. If you get bullied enough growing up you learn to pretend to be normal for survival. If you have a team of parents/therapists/etc constantly excusing your bad behaviour you end up obnoxious. It's why male autists are usually 100x more obnoxious than autistic women.

No. 857763

>>856046
Yes, thank you. Addicts are fucking parasites yet so many people want to coddle them, like what the hell. What about all the people around them who suffered because of their shitty life choices?

No. 857768

Misophonia. I get that it sucks, I'm a literal autist so I have all kinds of shitty sensory issues too. But shut the fuck up and learn to deal with it. I'm starting to think it's just a meme munchy condition because everyone I've met with it just comes across like an asshole who wants an excuse to glare and whine. Like they refuse to learn any techniques to manage their stress beyond "um can you not eat or drink or cough or yawn or exist in my presence??? I have an extremely serious mental health condition.".

And no I promise I'm not an obnoxious eater, I'm so anxious about being annoying that I'm really careful about stuff like that.

No. 857786

>>857763
Preach. I constantly have this back and forth in my head. I stayed with an addict two years deep into his addictions. His family knew and as long as they could get money from him when they asked they didn't care that he was clearly emotionally distressed about something. I tried so hard to be empathetic and get to the root of his problems, but he was violent when confronted. Had to phone his dad once because he was trying to run my car off the road while I was driving because I wouldn't drive him to a drug den. I didn't want to go to the police because I had weed lol and his dad is the inly authority figure he gets upset about. His dad talked him down on my phone and he got out the car and gave me my phone back. I met with him a few more times after that because I'm a stupid pathetic person that feels sorry for the wrong people. Eventually I had to part ways. I still feel bad about abandoning him. He's into heroin now though

No. 857790

>>856209
Some people will constantly bring up their issues to prod other people into engaging with them in their obsession, simply because they want a pretext to keep being obsessively occupied with it. Like that’s the whole objective in its own right. They don’t want to change their unhealthy thoughts and behaviors, they don't want your helpful advice, and I don’t even think they want to just vent either. They want to trigger their usual chain of negative thoughts and they want to delude themselves into believing it was outside influences that are at fault, even though it was them who broached the issue in the first place. In their minds this gives legitimacy to their unhealthy obessions and makes them seem more real. It literally does not matter what you reply when someone like that starts bitching about their weight or whatever, in their minds anything and everything will be twisted into ‘proof’ that other people just don’t understand or some other self-serving shit.

No. 857835

>>857768
I'm struggling with misophonia but am not an entitled shit so when I'm on the move I use either headphones or earplugs or both, and occasionally I'll have to straight-up leave places, like change train wagons, leave uni lectures etc. It sucks but I agree with you it's not anyone else's problem and I think some people are just using this condition as a way to elicit attention but also to control other people's behaviours bc they get off to it.
My issue is it sometimes it hurts people's fee fees when I use any sort of coping mechanism and it pisses me off. I'll leave the kitchen when my roommates start slurping fucking watermelons and apparently that makes me rude. When I'm eating at home with my partner or with friends we'll either have to watch sth with the volume turned up, or at the very least have my fan running and the windows open to let traffic noise in. Or if I'm busy doing whatever and my bf has a snack in the same room I will put in earplugs. And it often makes him upset uwu and I'll have to console him and reinforce that he's not eating grossly for the billionth time and it's just fucking annoying. I'm not asking you to console me about my condishun for the billionth time either. Why why why isn't it more socially accepted to just put in earplugs bitch I will hear you talk anyways. You get to eat I get to not cry or get a lip herpes outbreak yes I will get herpes from chewing sounds yes I know I'm gross why do we have to have a talk about this stuff every couple weeks. Why do I need a flimsy excuse to create white noise when friends are over, like how hard can it possibly be to understand this isn't about them.

No. 857837

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The neopronoun nonbinary "queer" autists make me want to off myself so bad

No. 857838

The world would be a better place if psychiatrists would be allowed to put down narcissist and borderline people, in general any disorder that has abuse as a symptom

No. 857840

>>857837
i love this gif so much kek, and same

No. 857850

>>857837
don't let them win nonny. Every living terf is precious.

No. 857851

>>857837
I hate autists so much.

No. 857860

For me it’s BPD.
I know that it’s a tough disorder for some and there are some that try hard to get better, but because of these loud BPD queens on the internet I can’t live my life in peace.
I’ve self-harmed for years and have visible (healed) scars on both arms, yes, I was stupid, I know, but we all did stupid shit when we were younger, but now everyone assumes my problem is that I have a BPD…
Well, no, I’m not manipulative, I’m not impulsive, I’m not reckless, I never ever would threaten suicide or self-harm and all the other associations people have with that disorder. Even the ICD-10 and DSM-5 criteria don’t fit for me. I just self-harmed and didn’t care, so leave me alone and don’t compare me to those stupid people online or these self-diagnosed BPD friends that ruined your life once.
Wish everyone would know that you can self-harm without having a BPD, I’m just tired of people assuming I’m one of them…

No. 857876

>>857860

Same here. I think people freaked out about self-harm scars before (blanket "psycho") but now it's associated 100% with bpdfags it's even worse. Long sleeves.

No. 858195

I don't think anything can convince me that DID is a legitimate psych disorder. My instructor was lecturing us and showed us attached video as an example and when some of us inquired about why there was no footage of her ""switching"" personalities and so on she more or less told us not to worry about it lol. I hate snowflakes.

No. 858438

I would like to invite all people with BPD to ask themselves why the stigma exist and then jump off a bridge

No. 858446

People with restrictive eating disorders. I’m so tired of the dumb ass online debates over whether or not they are fatphobic. I really do not care, but they always say things like “my eating disorder only effects me!” but people with eating disorders are always commenting on other people’s bodies and what food they eat and give their eating disorder tips to others. There are so many young women that have eating disorders, body image issues, etc. from their mother’s because their moms have eating disorders. It’s actually contagious and effects tons of other people’s lives. When I was younger I developed eating disorder habits from my friends that encouraged me to throw up after I ate bc they did and we would do it together.

No. 858471

>>858438
Untreated BPD is the worst, but there are plenty of people who work on it and even cut themselves off from other people completely once they figure out they have a problem. This is a bit much

No. 858472

>>858446
They are fatphobic but I don't see why they shouldn't be able to admit it. Most people don't want to be fat, fat people don't want to be fat, and a phobia of it is perfectly reasonable and justified considering the havoc it wreaks on your health and appearance. That doesn't mean it's okay to insult fat people directly or be pro ana or give ED tips but they don't owe it to fat people to think positively of their bodies either.

That said I don't really think encouraging other people become skinny is the typical ana-chan MO… they are highly competitive and petty, the last thing they want is other people being skinnier or restricting more than them.

No. 858554

Not really the type to armchair, but I feel like my best friend, especially when thinking about some of the things she's done and said over the years might be an untreated bpd type and I really don't know what to do. I care for her a lot, but sometimes it's so much, it makes me cry.

No. 858733

>>858471
BPD is the only personality disorder that gives PTSD to people. I don't care for them

No. 858735

>>858733
Nta but like..have you heard of NPD? HPD?

No. 858737

>>858735
While they're both as bad, the amount of people getting hurt by BPD is way more because BPD people are the most in denial, the most actively destructive, the most instable. Cluster B people need to fuck off, BPD people the most.

No. 858745

>>858472
>That said I don't really think encouraging other people become skinny is the typical ana-chan MO

Ntayrt but encouraging other people to be skinny isn't a motive from good intentions. It's to make other people feel as shitty about their bodies as they feel about theirs. That's why they get so pissed off when someone fatter than them appears ok with themselves because they sincerely believe no one else has the right to be comfortable if they don't have a checked body.

No. 858774

>>858737
> because BPD people are the most in denial, the most actively destructive, the most instable.

the same goes for NPD? you clearly never had to live with someone who had NPD.

No. 858788

>>858737
Ayrt, I would think that in terms of denial NPDs would come in first place. In terms of destruction caused.. It's not all that black and white imo, hell black and white thinking is a bpd trait in itself lol

No. 858790

Bipolar

My flatmate takes on more than she can handle, then dumps it on her friends or on me when she is depressed.

She also cries very loudly every day and even wails outside of my door when she knows I am in a teams meeting and I have told her people can hear her.

Only time I feel relaxed at home is when she has been staying at the ward.

Now she wants to adopt a dog as well, which is a terrible idea. I've had enough.

No. 858826

Autists can be annoying irl sometimes, when they just can't pick up social clues and make things awkward. I know it's not their fault but it's a bit frustrating.

No. 858851

>>858774
I think NPD is easier to clock/avoid and they don't get to date around as much as BPD people. Your parent may be NPD but it's far more common to come across a BPD as a friend or romantic interest, resulting in more victims in their wake. Maybe, I don't have stats.

No. 858867

>>858790
Bipolar, especially untreated, is a nightmare. My husband has bipolar but it's like rapid cycling i guess. His constant moodswings are fucking exhausting, it's draining to have to deal with every day. I feel for him but I'm also not equipped to help him when he refuses to go see a professional and I'm worried that it will ultimately be the downfall of our marriage. My ex was the same way and ended up killing himself about a year after we broke up (not because of me but i still deal with some guilt). Idk why i always end up with batshit dudes but if my husband and i don't make it I'm NEVER dating a mf with bipolar ever again.

No. 858883

>>858867
How did you ever end up married to a guy with bipolar when you had bad experiences dating one before anon? You don't just wake up married you had to take steps to get there, wtf
Bipolar can be managed but if he doesn't want to take meds or see a professional when you're struggling then I'm not sure if I would believe he wants to make things easier for you imo

No. 858949

>>858883
Good question. I guess i have issues, like i'm drawn to broken people. You're completely right don't get me wrong. He needs help but so do i. At least i take my meds lol (i was diagnosed with major depressive disorder a few years ago, which probably makes me an energy vampire as well)

No. 862968

>>857768
Eat with your mouth closed you disgusting slob

No. 863045

>>862968
uhh, chill

No. 863511

>>855168
Wow, someone else with a mother like this… It was hard growing up because people would assume I was rich because my mum had a nice expensive car, brand name clothes, wouldn't spend under $300 on a dress.. But the reality was me and my sister having to buy thrift store clothes, multiple broken lights and doors in our house etc. My mum would rather buy a new car than think of taking us to the doctor. The worst of it all was my sister and I having to 100% fund our own schooling from our dead fathers will, we even payed for new flooring in the house at the age of 12. It totally confuses me because I know when I have children they will come before anyone or any materialistic items.. The mindset of parents like this baffles me. Odd.

No. 863516

My sister was diagnosed with BPD at a very young age. You cannot hold her accountable for her actions, she can say horrible things, tell you "you should commit suicide, genuinely, you should die" and then completely refuse ever saying such things. If she enters a room, whatever mood she is in completely controls the energy of others. You never know if she hates you or loves you, and its very mentally draining. Even me saying a joke that wasn't funny enough can make her perception of me go from love to disgust.. If i say something in a wrong tone, talk too loud in public, make a facial expression she doesnt like, shell spend an hour or so telling me how disgusting, ugly, pathetic, dumb and embarrassing i am. Then when shes over it, she tells me how much she wants to look like me, how amazing i am, how much she loves me. Too confusing for my little brain..

No. 863518

>>857768
i have miso but its not for eating noises and is just for one really specific thing that i dont even want to talk about, but fortunately only one person in my life triggers it and i dont live with them anymore. i would get so angry and upset that i would smash my head into walls, into my desk, hit myself, scream until my throat hurt etc. i absolutely hate it and i wish i was making it up. but like i said, fortunately i do not live with that person anymore so i havent had a freakout in a long time.

No. 863588

>>855168
man, do I feel you. My mum's addiction is electronics. Would spend a ton of money on expensive new tvs, pcs, phones and cooking bullshit. What is with boomers and technology

No. 867524

Is there some link in between bippies (BPD) and autistics? There's no way that among all the other personality disorder they're the only ones being that retarded. They cant even get social cues like autistic people and they're absorbed in their own world like them

No. 867547

>>867524
yeh they're both neuwurodivergent!!

No. 867558

>>867524
A lot of women get misdiagnosed with bpd and are just autistic or have adhd

No. 867631

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what's the name of the mental illness of men who accuse every girl who slightly aggravates them of being bpd? here's how moids talk about their ''bpd'' girlfriends in a ''bpd abuse recovery'' subreddit

No. 867650

>>867631
>has great sex specifically because he hates her
I love it when men tell on themselves.

No. 867652

>>867631
Scrotism. Most common illness among men

No. 867850

Not an illness but as a bpdfag I can’t deal with self-diagnosers who act like you’re somehow oppressing them if you don’t think they have the 10 different disorders they found on Google. There are lots of tumblr type women who claim to have BPD who are like this.

No. 867857

>>867558
Wut? Those aren’t even similar.

No. 867885

>>867857
Ntayrt but there's a lot of overlap in BPD, ADHD, and autism symptoms.

No. 867967

>>867857
They share some features like emotional dysregulation, and while of course their particular symptomologies should make them easy to differentiate in theory, in practice a lot of doctors are misogynistic and see all poor impulse control/emotional volatility in women as a result of BPD.

No. 868525

I hate autistic “people”, they infuriate me to the core. I hate them to the point that I want to put a bullet in every single one of those pieces of filths ugly skulls. They get praised and rewarded for doing absolutely fucking NOTHING besides being the literal dregs of humanity. While we normal, intelligent people with potential have to work our asses off every damn day for almost nothing in return. These freaks should not be allowed to reproduce and spread their dirty disgusting retard genes, delaying human evolution. Wasting recourse on these retards is worthless, it’s like watering a flower you ripped out of the grounds without the root. Instead of locking them in mental institutions, we should lock them in chains and cages far away from the rest of the civilisation in a jungle, like the animals they are. If you act like an animal you should be treated like one. Or we could simply just kill them as soon as they’re diagnosed aka confirmed abominations to mankind. If I ever had an autistic child I would kill myself. I’d rather DIE than waste my life on raising a freak that’ll never grow up to become intelligent. Some anons may find my opinion insensitive or disturbing but i don’t give a fuck!

No. 868567

Theres nothing funnier than self diagnosed "sociopaths" getting mad at "negative sociopath representation" in media. Like I can assure you that actual real sociopathic people don't give a single fuck about how they are being talked about in media or elsewhere

No. 868568

>>868525
Have you ever been tested?

No. 868572

>>868568
kek I had the same thought

No. 868577

>>868525
i think you might be autistic

No. 868605

>>868525
If you are young, daily reminder that nothing will "get better" after your sweet little university times or your first job. Men peak in their 20s whether you like it or not. You've got last chance to delay this process of degradation before your brain turns into mashed potatoes relying on comfort, stereotypes (or going totally insane), not willing to take risks anymore so easily; before your body turns into useless waste of energy, losing your strength, stamina, breath, your sight, your youth, your hair and blood in your dick. Living past your 30s is already considerable but living past your 40s makes no sense at all unless you have something/somebody you can take care of. Long life ahead of you is in a lot of cases just illusion of modern medicine, trying to fix issues of modern world it created while poisoning you every single day. In best case scenario you are already way too far behind your half-time and very close to point of your peak in life. Nothing will save you, no ideology, no savior, no leader, no movement, no sweet little waifu, we are running with our heads to the hardest wall ever, made from our mistakes and own stupidity. Just keep that in mind when you will be 40, dying from some virus shit carried by mosquitoes from africa because of climate change or shitting to bag after cancer, watching your kids waiting for death as well, replay in that moment my words "I told you so".

No. 868608

>>868567
People who use self-diagnosis to construct the foundation of their identity are generally insufferable fuckers.

No. 868782

>>868525
You probably have autism, but I also have autism and I’m smarter than and make more money than you.

No. 868967

>>868605


Are you okay Anon?

No. 869002

>>868967
I feel like that anon is coping with dental issues or eyesight problems and is having a massive projection session.

No. 869009

hello, sometimes I’m worried I might snap; please take a look at my history and tell me If I already have :’3


history:
-sent to correctional summer camp and anger management for biting a kid in preschool/not sharing crayons
-diagnosed with ADHD in 3rd grade (mother says shit’s not real, no meds)
-gets into gifted program (kicked out a few weeks later for not completing any assignments)
-seems to socialize easily but prefers isolation
-periods of high energy/confidence/violence (randomly physically attacking siblings/classmates)
-trouble w the law
-In and out of DBT/anger management during high-school w/ the provisional diagnosis: MDD, GAD, PTSD, and BPD w/ a prozac scrip (kicked off after doubling dosage)
-trouble with the law
-kicked out at 18
-22 now, still going to DBT
-younger siblings have ADHD, APD, and
autism
-self medicate w weed/nicotine
(a therapist advised against this because of schizo genes, current therapist sees no issue)

I feel I’ve already experienced psychosis

an incident:
In elementary school I was at a friends house watching Spirit: Stallion of the Cimarron.
I try showing off to her parents by doing a cartwheel and end up knocking something over.
I immediately felt sick with shame and worse yet, I felt like they knew what I was thinking/could see right through me/knew everything about me/knew I was an adopted crack baby. So I ran out of the house and hid at a close by playground until my mom came to get me.

I’ve been in and out of paranoid states
(-being scared to go around corners/stairwells because there might be an ax man just waiting
-startled by physical contact
-“mY MoM is out to get mE/secretly wants me dead”
-“the rapture/apocalypse is upon us”
-“is this correct god? do you like this? can I be an angel when I die?
-“my friends hate me/know my secrets”)

I know I’ll prob be called a munchie or whatever but idc because I’ve been called everything else at this point


my BPD mother was the first to psycho analyze me from a very young age. Ive been called manipulative, pathological, impulsive, selfish, and bossy; so I tried my best to mold myself into someone everyone would love. but I ended up a narcissistic, boundary-less pick me with self esteem so low, I’m practically giving myself away

should I bother with another Psychoanalysis?

No. 870446

anas

My sister's ed is destroying our mother and seeing her being treated like this makes me feel like I'm about to snap.
It's not just the constant worrying, the daily battle of begging her to pls pls eat, it's also the dirty manipulation.
Constantly acting as if she has stomach pains because she was forced to eat a tiny portion and if my mom is not telling her that it's ok she starts to whine how she's sooo sorry, she regrets it sooo much that she didn't eat, she will eat more tomorrow, so pls don't be mad at me otherwise I feel so bad and won't be able to sleep blah blah My mom isn't allowed to do anything, whether at home or in public without my sister demanding to argue with her about whether she has to eat or not. And then my mom scolds her for losing even more she runs to me, fake crying without tears about how she is so scared and feels so bad.
My mom is nearly as skelly as her out of desperation, but she really doesn't give af about anybody but herself. As an example: lately I cut of like 30cm of my hair - and she doesn't even notice. The only thing she cares about are her looks and shopping daily.

No. 871442

>>869009
>should I bother with another Psychoanalysis?
at this point that seems like an awful idea, you're already way deep in your own head. DBT or CBT honestly seems like where you want to be - being able to address behaviors that don't serve you or your life without spiraling into an infinite abyss of why you are, what you are etc. Truthfully, it doesn't really matter if your diagnosis isn't fully correct, what matters is that the help that you are getting is improving your life. What meds are you taking at the moment anon, and how much/often do you smoke? What was your trouble with the law exactly? Do you still do anger management/feel like you need it? Do you excercise, what is your diet like?

No. 871806

I've said this alot to friends and family but I could never stay with anyone that had any sort of mental illness.
A family member of mine has bi polar, and is a textbook example of npd.
Hes horrible. They way you have to walk on eggshells for him while he treats you like shit. Then when he gets in his depressive moods and the realization that no one likes him the gaslighting and threats happens. He weaponized suicide to get what he wants, constantly saying hes gonna kill himself while he lazes in bed. Hes tried to bully me into buying him a motorcycle, bc it would make him "feel better" when hes literally stolen my money to put a down payment on one.
And when he has his narc rage moments, which are only amplified by his bi polar, you get gaslit if you challenge his toddler tantrum ass.
From what I've experienced in his behavior I'm sorry but I could never support or possibly even love a bpd sufferer and especially someone with npd. They are the most selfish and degrading people I've ever met. They walk all over you while expecting to be treated like a king.

No. 871823

>>870446
To be fair when you haven't eaten portions like that in ages it will hurt your stomach. Hopefully your sister gets a dietician.

No. 871838

Going through the mental disorder thread made me remember a former friend that was obsessive with collecting diagnosises. She was born sickly and it was her entire identity.

When I got diagnosed with a chronic disease, I thought she would be good support for me to understand how to live with a disease. But no, she pretty much spent most of the conversations on how she is more chronic. Or my chronic disease doesn't seem too legit compared to her other uwu chronic friends.

The freakiest part is her doctor told her to lay off on exercising or else shes gonna do irreparable damage. In response, she started exercising everyday and tweet how much pain she is in. Then cries how she wished she was normal.

It wasnt just chronic conditions either, she would try to get adhd diagnosed then tweet how neurodivergent she was. After getting one she started asking us how do you get an autism diagnosis. It was insane. I'm not sure if this is a mental illness but its pretty much why I stop talking to her. The worse part is some of her twitter friends (self diagnosed and unmedicated) would encourage this behavior.

No. 871843

I hate autists so much. I keep being told about high functioning ones being harmless but they're really not. It's more of a developmental disorder so I'm not sure if it's really on-topic.

No. 871880

I'm starting to get really tired of people with ADHD because as soon as they're diagnosed they make it their entire fucking personality. I follow several people on social media who post Every Single Day about ADHD. like jesus. we get it already.

No. 871882

>>871843
I hate how wide the term 'high functioning' is. Tbh I've known some tists at the very high functioining end of the spectrum who were fine and could be mistaken for having mild shyness at most. Ones who work and live alone and manage just fine. I've also met chris chan style sex perverts who use the label 'high functioning' and yet live at home like children forever… this permanent mix of childishness but then also a pinch of sex offender thrown in. Their elderly parents usually struggling to keep an eye on their internet activities. Waiting for the day that they caught up some CP bust.

No. 871884

>>871843
>>871882
people need to stop using that term imo, high functioning autism isn't even a real diagnosis.

No. 871892

>>871884
I know people who were diagnosed with aspergers years ago, then aspergers stopped being an official thing and they switched to just saying they're high functioning…now that's not a thing either and it's just 'autism spectrum' The language is bound to keep changing but I feel like it never helps to describe where people are actually at. It gets more vague as times goes.

No. 871911

>>871880
Those cutesy ADHD Alien comics are the worst thing to ever happen to my social media ecosystem. ADHD havers (whether self- or professionally diagnosed) seem to think sharing those justifies them acting like children/refusing to take responsibility.

No. 871937

>>868567
Lmao remember when Shane Dawson was doing his retarded video series on Jake Paul and investigating into whether or not he was a sociopath? And people were moaning and whining about how "irresponsible" it was because it might hurt the feelings of real sociopaths? Like wtf as if they'd give a shit, they're fucking sociopaths. Why the hell are we coddling them of all people all of a sudden? Mental health awareness was a mistake.

No. 871948

>>871442

I’m not currently medicated. I used to attend DBT twice a week; but because of overbooking, I see someone a little over once a month. This makes it difficult to communicate, and certain concerns can’t be addressed until the next session.

The first issue I brought up with my therapist was my weed addiction. I’m not worried about the psychological aspect; my skin is just FUCKED.
The combo of smoking and picking my face has aged me drastically and I am embarrassed to be seen.

I struggle with intrusive thoughts that can lead to impulsive/compulsive behavior like face picking, hair parting/brushing/plucking.

The face picking started late in middle school as I began to suffer from acne. I CANNOT have the bumps. I can feel them, they itch and move around. From cysts to comedones; I would cut and squeeze my face, expecting smooth skin; but I got scars and craters.

I’ve been suicidal over my dang hair. Because I’m mixed and my mom is white trailer trash, she had no idea what to do with the “rat’s nest” and just straightened it.
This became a part of my routine and because my hair was so thick, it would take over 2 hours. Instead of waking up at 4 to get ready for school, I would sometimes go weeks without showering because I didn’t want my hair to get wet. I end up being late for work and appointments because I get so distressed about my hair and how it’s parted and all the flyaways, I will spend an hour brushing and re-parting. It wasn’t until recently I learned more about natural hair care; but I already shaved my head :3

I know these obsessions with appearance are due to low self esteem. There are times when I can look cute; and when I do, I not only feel satisfied; I feel superior.

I care about appearing a certain way (stable and polite); so I will avoid confrontation and showing signs of stress.

My therapist claims I am “evolving” because I seem self aware and use simple logic/hindsight when discussing trauma.

I have some level of self preservation, so I won’t go out of my way to break the law.

BUT when I feel a strong emotional attachment or am “drawn” to someone or something; the law is just an inconvenience.

I used to steal groceries, trinkets, jewelry and money for my ex bf, mother, and friends. I broke federal law trying to switch my ex’s counterfeit bills at my workplace.

I have a number of parking/speeding tickets /couple of missed court dates and can get hostile/distracted while driving. I also sometimes space out and my bf will have to warn me about red lights.


I used to be fit: a hardcore student athlete, and loved the woods. My physical health has suffered since now all I do is sit at a computer and game/try to draw. I got a kidney stone at 21 and have been hospitalized for fluid intake. I do think exercise, even just ugly dancing helps me feel better about myself :) I just need friends to make it a little more engaging.


Sometimes I think I’ll make it, But I’m not even doing it alone. I have been living with my bf for 3 years now; and sometimes will quit my job/go months without pitching in financially. I often snap at him and sometimes even suggest breaking up because I hate losing control around him, and feel horrible for the things I say/don’t say or do.

When trying to practice “mindfulness” It’s difficult to not just end up dissociating and going quiet for a while.

I’m worried I’m further deluding myself into thinking I can be the higher functioning, good person I want to be, when I don’t even brush my teeth.

sometimes I feel I’m only still alive because I’m a narcissist

No. 871986

>>871442
oh sorry! forgot about diet! yeah I’ll just be forgetting about food. the nicotine cravings override the hunger pains.

I’ve always been pretty scrawny and wished I was more voluptuous, which I see as “womanly”
as a kid I had an issue with eating too much too fast and throwing up but it was never intentional.

I started fasting intentionally at the beginning of high school as I thought it would get rid of my gouty/double chin and baby fat

then when my butt got smaller i started over eating again and SQUATS

then fast for that snatched waist bcs I’m scared cardio/ab work will give me man muscles

then I realized you can just drink water/and or vape instead of eating but not actually because I’m still constipated and wake up w nausea


I don’t want to quit because see I what little potential i have left as a lost cause at this point. I looked like a dog on meth before I even touched drugs

No. 872485

>>871948
christ anon, be careful with the reddit spacing, that is a ban-able offense around here. it's also cancerous to look at.
>I see someone a little over once a month
I think you know this isn't good for you. Get a regular appointment
>I’m not worried about the psychological aspect
You should be, especially if you yourself call it an addiction
>I learned more about natural hair care; but I already shaved my head
Not a bad thing, good way to start anew with curly hair, do you know the curly girl method? look into it
>sometimes I feel I’m only still alive because I’m a narcissist
You certain think a lot about how you look/come across.For example >>871986 I meant diet as in, when was the last time you ate a vegetable, not 'tell me about the depth of your ed'. What you need is discipline, and I do not mean the kind that you may have used to starve yourself or be an athlete but the one that'll stop you from making impulse decisions, getting aggressive whilst driving, being a shitty partner and not sticking to therapy.
You're not hopeless but your priorities are idiotic

No. 872637

>>854673
Any other anons maladaptively daydream? 90% of my non work waking hours are spent in a cope, daydreaming a life I will never have

No. 873598

>>872637
yeah it's called schizoid personality disorder

No. 873615

>>873598
can this be misdiagnosed as/any overlapping symptoms with ptsd? i don't trust my diagnosis

No. 873618

>>872637
I'm like this. I was fully agoraphobic for a few years and all that time I spent at home led to me picking up the habit. I still don't get out a whole lot so I entertain myself with it and make up for a lack of a social life by imagining relationships.

No. 873646

>>871880
Getting sick of ADHD bullshit too. Moids with ADHD are the worst, in my experience, because the diagnosis turns into a crutch to explain away their lack of manners.

No. 873680

People who make PTSD their entire identity. In many cases they have an eternal victim complex that stagnates them from ever trying to get better. They’re also very aggressive towards anyone who moves forward - even if you yourself have PTSD, they will pull you down with them if you’re making progress in your life, try to isolate you, and expect you to take care of them. Fuck that.

No. 873689

>>873680
I used to unfortunately be like that at the beginning of me developing PTSD, but that only lasted a few months. Shit is toxic as fuck. It's frustrating seeing people stuck in that phase for years. They'll never get better, they have control issues and clearly can't bring themselves to control themselves first.

No. 873690

>>873598
Daydreaming has nothing to do with schizoid personality disorder.

No. 873739

>>873690
Thank you, i was about to say this

No. 873929

>>873690
it's literally in the diagnostic criteria but okay

No. 873933

>>873929
I just looked it up on wikipedia and it's not, at least in the DSM-5. are you thinking of schizotypal?

No. 874228

I heard 1/4 american women are on antidepressants. Do any burger anons fit this 1/4? Do you feel it's effective?

No. 875130

I have GAD which has worsened over the last year due to a narcissistic, alcoholic mother. I’ve recently developed neurological issues which make my whole body jerk every now and then. It gets worse when I’m anxious.

I’m not sure how much longer I can push through.

No. 875199

>>872637
I do. I started doing it in kindergarten to cope with loneliness since I've never been able to make friends + abuse & neglect from parents. Then later to cope with bullying & more loneliness in school. I am in behavioral therapy due to depression but I've got no personality disorder. I still daydream a lot even tho I am almost 22, but it is def. less than before. Moving out, the work environment with regular non-bullying social interaction, therapy and the daily schedule made it less. Just because you daydream a lot to cope with shitty reality doesn't mean that you have a personality disorder.

No. 876870

my friend has aspergers, and lately they’ve been very unpleasant to talk to. they’ve stopped showering too. they weren’t like this before and im curious if any farmers know if its related to the syndrome because i know a lot of farmers know/are aspies. im really interested in knowing whether they’re experiencing some sort of worsening of symptoms or if they’re just an asshole.

No. 876872

>>876870
oops, forgot to remove sage, this thread can use a bump

No. 877084

>>876870
There are times when I get really consumed by some shit (rewatching some favorite series or a game) that I spend minimal time on grooming if I can avoid it and am constantly daydreaming/thinking about it, and do not like getting interrupted, and I need some processing time to bounce back before interacting as a normal human.You didn't really specify what you mean by unpleasant, as I don't think I'm ever rude, just may appear a little slow or disoriented.

No. 878403

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People with ADHD are exhausting. I thought it was just one of my friends that was particularly abrasive. But I'm traveling with a close friend with ADHD right now. She's absolutely amazing in short bursts but spending a long anount of time with her is like babysitting a puppydog.

>they think they are being intellectually stimulating when in reality they are just being argumentive for no goddamn reason, ALL THE TIME (this seems to tickle their ADHD bone).

>they think their lack of impulse control is quirky. They constantly spend money they do not really have. They overeat to the point of having stomache aches. EVERY DAY.
>ask my input for everything but when I tell them not to do the Stupid Thing they will of course fucking do it because that's how they are wiRed.
>disorganized. Make mess of any living space they enter within minutes (she's very clean though!).
>use words incorrectly most of the time.
>constantly needing to borrow my necessities. They are spendthrifts but refuse to buy anything useful.
>go on emberassing rants. on how much they hate obese people to a friend who is struggling with their weight (I hate fat people too but this gave me 2nd hand embarrassment).

My friend is amazing and fun in many other ways but I will definitely not be going on any longer trips with them after this. I love the ADHD people that I know but they are a drain to deal with for prolonged periods of time.

No. 878412

>>874228
burger here.

I was diagnosed with depression, I also am cluster A. I took abilify, not sure if that's actually an antidepressant or not. it made so little of a difference that when I went off I didn't notice it.

but then I took zoloft, and it changed my whole world. it made me less paranoid (being cluster A makes me fucking paranoid all the time) and made me more stable in general mood wise and less anxious. I went off because I got kicked off my insurance and had terrible fucking withdrawal. I have sort of gotten more stable though I am still much more paranoid and anxious than I was on it, and now I'm having OCD like symptoms which I hadn't had in years. I would go back on it if I could pay for it.

No. 878582

>>878403
Kek let this be a lesson that ADHD friends are 4 hour max friends. I have it, the only people who can bear to live/travel with me are also ADHD so we can understand and endure each other.
And some of the shit you listed is just her being immature. Forgetting to pack some essentials is classic ADHD, but if she's had the chance to buy her own and hasn't, that's just her being a dumbass and not realizing it bothers you when she always has to borrow your stuff. Using words incorrectly is also just her own idiocy.
This sounds obvious but clear communication does wonders because we are retards who miss subtle cues when we're hyper. We're also used to fucking up so she might not even take it hard if you're nice about it.

No. 878627

>>877084
theyre obsessive over religious and conspiratorial things. they hop on a different opinion/belief every week and its obnoxious and even offensive because they will invalidate my own beliefs. they used to not be like this so im hoping its just a really long symptomatic phase they’re having and theyll go back to the fun person they were before.

No. 891663

I consider every religion, to the point your life depends on it, mental disorders (like Jeovah's).
Plus adult autists (talking about gen x and late boomers) and retards, in the literal sense, you can see they were ignored by their parents because they didn't accept it and now you have these people running around, absolutely capable of nothing, can't take care of themselves but having the balls of saying "I am an adult!! Respect me!" just because their parents thought they were special and fed them nothing but mental crap.

No. 891669


No. 891675

>>891669
Anon people are dying over Jeovah

No. 891682

>>872637
Me. I’ve suffered from childhood abuse, and bullying. I wonder if it has any correlation to that.

No. 893736

Schizotypal reporting in.

>>891682
Same I think it probably does.

No. 894919

what mental disorder is it when you cannot let things go and hold a grudge forever?

some tard in a discord server i'm in consistently tries to bring up old arguments and harass me + other people they've argued with despite being blocked. what illness is causing this behavior?

No. 896283

>>894919
Block them and go on, maybe they're just a little bitch.

No. 896308

>>894919
It is possible to be a piece of shit without having a mental illness

No. 898530

>>891682
I also maladaptive daydream and had such experiences. Sometimes as a kid I had high optimism I could make those dreams come true when I got older and escaped but even upon realizing that wasn't the case I could never stop.
However, for me the worst illness I ever suffered was something I didn't have diagnosed. I had other imaginary people around me who could sometimes take control of my body and I wouldn't recall what happened which would usually be out of character things. Upon talking to a psych later they told me that it sounded like DID although it seems quite a rarity I could have coped with such a thing by myself but I don't really know what else it could have been. Even though it's been gone for years I am permanently afraid I will do something horrible and not remember. Not like murder or something, just emotionally hurt someone, cheat on someone, ect. It doesn't help that my abusive mom sometimes tries to tell me I did stuff I didn't because she knows I'm scared of that but other people will correct her. Long story short- I am permanently afraid of having a mental split.

No. 898541

>>872637
Same here. And I also recently made this realization that even when I am not daydreaming I am drawn to activities that allows me to be in a similar zoned out state (mindless browsing of the Internet, listening to music, overeating). It's like my brain is doing everything it can to not be present in reality. And the funniest thing is, I didn't have any trauma growing up, but I already had this habit as a kid

No. 898569

>>898541
Those mind numbing things and daydreaming too are my favourite hobbies. I do have ADHD though which may have something to do with it.

No. 914609

I can't stand any mental disorder with a impact on others.
This means autism, asperger, cluster Bs and Cs, ADHD.
Cluster A people tend to stay by themselves so I don't consider them that devastating, but any disorder that exhausts other people by any means bother me because in this culture you're not allowed to say that they're the bothersome but YOU ARE since you can't put up with their shit.
These people need constat reality checks and while I understand that living with that condition is hell even for them, they need extreme therapy to be able to function with others. Nobody has to carry their burdens and they need self awareness and reality checks.

No. 914615

>>914609
My brother was making fun of my ex to me. My ex had adhd and I literally forgot how fucking debilitating it was. Literally could take up to 20 minutes to walk out the front fucking door

No. 914616

>>914609
as a recovering cluster B, I feel you and you're right. do not coddle cluster Bs or walk on eggshells/hide the fact that you are struggling to deal with their shit - being forced to acknowledge it is the only way we will change.

I personally struggle to deal with people with ADHD. I work in customer service and my coworker is a girl with ADHD. I dread being on shift with her because she always starts tasks and doesn't finish them and I have to be the one to clean up her mess.

No. 914617

>>914615
Or it was his OCD even. He had both. He was so mental

No. 914624

>>914609
>paranoid personality disorder doesn't affect any others

do any people even know cluster a's or is that why people always are about uwu swet cluster a's because majority of people do not have to deal with them

No. 914625

>>914624
Cluster A include Schizotypal and Avoidant, leave them alone and they wont leech off of you, that's it.

No. 914627

>>914625
do you know any of them

No. 914632

>>914627
Yes, anon, what about you?

No. 914633

>>914625
also avoidant is actually included in those horrible cluster c's you mentioned and the other two cluster a's are the schizotypes.

anyway having one in a family can be quite devastating so yeah

No. 914634

>>914632
on the internet?

No. 914657

>>914634
No anon, unlike you.

No. 917790

I have complex PTSD and OCD from years of school bullying, a 10 year+ abusive relationship and shitty parents. I did fine in school and got my Bachelor but since OCD got waaay out of control because of my parents messy divorce and abusive ex bf, I dropped out of my masters degree for the second time, which means where I live I wont be able to try this specific masters again. I want to become a preschool teacher bc I love little kids but I swear OCD made it so fucking bad, I studied non stop even neglecting house work but was barely able to get anything done bc this fucking OCD attaches itself to whats most important to me. So here I am, with the same meds since I was 15, no friends bc long term bullying gave me social phobia, fucked skin and scalp bc of scratching and picking and fear for my future. I started seing a specialist for EMDR last november but since I have so much trauma it takes super long. I just fear so much for my future bc possibilities are restricted now.
Sorry for my poor english.

No. 920949

Maybe this belongs more in the vent thread. But I live with two people who have ADHD and both are medicated. But even on medication it feels like I can't follow their trains of thought and I don't think they can either. Constantly forgetting basic shit or starting something or telling me they'll start something and not following through. It's exhausting. For example one day I needed to use the bathroom for an extended time to dye my hair, I asked for them all to let me know when they'd be done using it so I could use it. I knew one of them was doing a long skincare routine. One of them left the light on and door slightly ajar and for two hours I really thought they were still in there, but no. Just forgot, and they also forgot to tell me they were done. FFS. Just one example of many but it's every day. I work really long hours and I don't exactly have time to waste because of other peoples' shit time management and spotty memory.

To make it worse I have anxiety. So I feel bad every time I have to follow up with them like "hey did you do x?" or "hey is y done yet?". Makes me feel like shit. I'm not trying to mother them, I just want to get on with my fucking day. Also, I can tell when they've skipped a med cycle, they become unbearably chatty and really rude in conversation. Not intentional I know but I hate not being able to follow where a convo is going and also being talked over constantly because they HAVE to get their thought out.

Anyone ITT with ADHD, does it make you feel bad when someone has to remind you to finish something you started? I'm sick of feeling like an asshole but I am just as sick constantly waiting on people who are fully capable of finishing the shit they started and promised they'd finish.

No. 930074

Has anyone had any experience recovering from bad anxiety and depression without medication? I've been depressed for years and it's honestly just getting worse. I didn't want to believe in the whole big pharma thing and take medication to numb me from everything, so I've tried adjusting my sleep schedule…exercising, good diet, therapy etc. but nothing seems to work. I'm considering just getting on meds at this point but I really don't want to.

No. 930081

>>930074
I am sorry to hear that anon! I have been there before, so I understand your concern. Eventually, I just got worse and my mom and I finally warmed up to meds. My mom asked my psych at the time about a weaker med to start off on (I cant remember name right now) but theres one medication wuth really low dosages and I took that and it actually helped a lot at first. I am not sure how severe things are, but if you start on a weaker medication it will be easier to come of off it (with the help of your dr) if you find its not helpful. I think its worth a shot! Good luck nonny.

No. 930085

>>930081
sorry to samefag I just realized I forgot to explain more though: I ended up reacting well to that medication although I felt very tired using it at first, I eventually overcame that and it made a positive change for sure. Just because of my severity, I had to climb up the dosage ladder and eventually went to stronger meds which I am still on, but everyone is different so as I said, I think its worth trying at first!

No. 930090

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>>930074
You don't wanna have to take that shit for the rest of your life plus you won't be able to cum anymore. Look up subreddits dedicated to people trying to wean off them and they have to cut their pills into pieces to lower the doses over a long time just to avoid awful withdrawal

No. 930127

>>920949
You shouldn’t feel like an asshole, you’re not in the wrong for giving someone a gentle reminder to finish something up

No. 930147

>>930074
I was on and off ssris from ages 12 to 29. I got off them for a solid 2 years then and I feel like the combination of aging, a couple of lifestyle changes (dumping bad bf, moving somewhere quieter) helped me to really mellow out.

I dont know what age you are but 30 was a weird turning point for me, not an overnight miracle but a noticeable improvement. I always thought I'd be dealing with the moodswings of a teenager forever.

No. 930150

>>930074
I recovered from bad social anxiety from my childhood to early twenties or so and possibly depression. I'm not diagnosed so I can't say the depression part for certain but I'm fairly certain I was depressed for at least 3-4 years. I overcame it but it took many, many years of my youth and I regret not seeking professional help. I'm personally not anti-medication and I believe if I had just taken the step to see a professional (I was too anxious and too much of an coward) it could've potentionally saved me many years of suffering and getting further and further behind on life. I've overcome my social anxiety but I still lack a social life simply because I didn't form social skills and everyone has friend groups by now. Fuck I wish I had gone on meds.

No. 930155

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I had an ex who had BPD, and unfortunately as someone who loves and is pursuing psych, I just can't wrap my mind around BPD. It's a massive weak spot for me that I'm working on professionally moving forward, but I don't know if I'll ever be able to date someone with BPD again. It wouldn't be good for them, and it's certainly not good for me.

Sort of a mental illness incongruence I guess, I'm probably autistic (discussing in therapy, diagnosis pending) and struggle with knowing what a partner expects of me. The wildfire of near-lovebombing to the swing over to "why do you hate me" leaves me extremely confused and upset near-constantly, no matter how much I know it's just the BPD.

No. 930341

>>930074
I've recovered from self-harm after nearly 20 years all by myself and I don't feel suicidal anymore, after feeling that way nearly all my life. I'm still struggling with alcohol addiction (working on it) and depression (don't have a diagnosis, but what else should it be), but I think both of that is directly linked to each other and my living situation.
So, yes, I think you can recover without medication, but if I had the choice, I would go back in time and try every help I could get. I feel like nonna >>930150 that I've wasted years of my youth and young adult life just trying to survive instead of getting myself help and medication to get through it faster and maybe easier and I sometimes feel like I have to start right at the beginning again because I couldn't develop like "normal" people. Give it a try, there are lot of different medications out there and maybe one in a low dosage might help you.


>>930155
not everyone with BPD is that extreme and some of them have learned to handle it. That said, I would never date someone with BPD again, either, I've just met to many of them excusing every dangerous and wrong behaviour with their mental illness and I haven't got time for that.

No. 930490

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>>930081
>>930085
>>930150
>>930341

Thank you guys for the nuanced and thoughtful answers. What you're saying about not wasting my life wallowing away in sadness really speaks to me. I'm 25 right now and I'm making more money than I ever have, I have freedom and independence to travel and do fun things but I'm always so sad and tired I just stay home and do nothing. I think I will talk to my doctor about starting a very low dosage of a medication. While it scares me, I think it'll hurt me in the long run if I don't at least try something.

>>930090
I already can't cum tbh, my libido went right out the window when the depression got bad, but I am genuinely afraid of being dependent on medication for the rest of my life. I guess you win some, you lose some. I'm tired of being so lethargic and sad.

No. 930517

I generally can't stand other cluster b's. BPD doesn't know when to leave me alone and will make me a FP based on superficial charm alone or try to trigger themselves with me. NPD is too obsessed with themselves to notice they are pissing me the fuck off and other edgelords generally have a different 'code', so I fucking despise them plus they are generally scrotes. Autists are much more stable and getting along with schizoids or avoidants is also easier. Not saying I'm easy to be around, I get it, I want to fuck off from everyone else anyway. This is just from my perspective.
>>930090
That pic is great, thanks for sharing it

No. 931105

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I feel horrible about having extensive self-harm scars because it just feels like an invitation for people to say weird shit to be or think I'm insane. But I also have never gotten along with others with very visible scarring because they think it's an invitation to talk to me about it too! Like they are my friend and I know them… but I don't lmao don't talk to me. I really want to be able to remove this part of myself from my life but I'm going to have these scars for the rest of my life. There's too many to get rid of and they make me feel trapped in my mental illness. Idk if I'm BPD or autistic or anything I was never brought to a psych. I hid it very well and planned to kms after I turn 21 but I have good bf and moved out so I don't feel suicidal anymore but now I have to fucking be associated with self harm bullshit. I think this hate is just me being afraid of what others think of me though so lol projection at it's finest.

No. 931262

>>931105
Read op post, this is not your hugbox

No. 932826

I may sound like a piece of shit, but I can't stand people with depression who blame everything on depression.
I'm starting to thing they're not actually depressed and just attentiont seeking, because I've seen so many people claiming to be depressed when:
- They don't go to therapy (here, it's free)
- Don't take meds (again, free if you do some tests)
- Have this weird sense of humor about them being unhygienic, gross.
I don't care if you're to depressed to get out of bed, if you didn't take a shower for a month you stink and are disgusting.
- Are constantly leeching off attention.
- Do nothing in general to be better.
I swear, the people I've seen so far just go "Sigh :(" or "Bad thoughts :(" out of the fucking blue and drop the chill atmosphere so fast, it almost makes me gag. It can be a nice day and they feel the need to tell everyone that they're having the sads.
I get that it must suck for them but being so blinded by your own mental illness is doing nobody good, if you're really that desperate go to therapy, get help and your friends and family will help too, don't expect random people to help since they're not qualified and you can burn them out very easily.
I just needed to get this off my chest, I had my lowest moments too but after seeing my mom cry for me ONCE, the common sense said to me that my pain was not someone else's pain and it shouldn't ever be.

No. 932828

>>932826
I stopped being angry at people’s ignorance like this because maybe you’re just frustrated and don’t know how to deal with depressed people, depression can severely impact your energy and motivation levels, which is why they neglect hygiene and cleaning their rooms. Of course there are undiagnosed attention whores who use “depression” as a cover-up for being a narcissistic loser, but people with depression often can’t help it because most of the time it functions like an addiction, it’s like a self-fulfilling prophecy that keeps recycling itself over and over again, that’s why depressive people seem insufferable to well-adjusted people.

And kek, oh my god

>my pain shouldn’t be anyone else’s!!


It’s literally your mother you dumb fucking retard, you’re allowed to have emotional moments with your close relatives. Humans aren’t atomized things floating around like unflushed flecks of shit in a toilet, some people feel other people’s pain because have you ever considered that humans are receptive to how another person feels? That’s called compassion. Are imageboards rotting your brain nonnie?

No. 932831

>>932828
My little tardie, I was talking about how you can't expect people to ALWAYS be there for you and if you had a little bit of empathy you wouldn't be an attention seeking piece of shit.
I made examples of the people I can't stand, those who do nothing for themselves. I know depressions affects a lot of a person, but going around not reading the fucking rooom ever? No thanks.
Also wash your ass.

No. 932832

>>932831
Ohhh you have autism, opinion discarded.

No. 932833

>>932832
Imagine opening up this thread who clearly says "mental disorders you can't stand" and then getting mad with someone can't stand a mental disorder.

No. 932834

>>932833
It didn’t say I can’t make fun of them for being a retard with a social deficit?

No. 932837

>>932834
Anon, who cares lol, move on
Oh no there's a person who don't agree on the internet, what will you do now!

No. 932852

>>930490
I wouldn’t even worry about it. I get so depressed I don’t want to do anything either. So going on lexapro actually gave me back my high sex drive after three months, just meant I needed lube every once in a blue moon Noni. Not everyone has the same exp.

No. 932859

>>932828
>Of course there are undiagnosed attention whores who use “depression” as a cover-up for being a narcissistic loser
Both can be the case. A lot of NPD and ASPD-fags are also depressed. Not saying you should have sympathy or empathy for them, because that would be hypocritical. Just pointing it out.

No. 935356

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Sometimes I feel like nothing around me is real and I'm stuck in some sort of simulation. It reminds me of a very bad trip and like I'm about to fall apart. The worst thing is that there's no escspe from it. Those thoughts often induce full on panic attacks when I need to take some drugs just to chill and be able to sleep. When I'm alone in my room, I'm afraid some random men will kill me in my sleep. When I'm at work, I feel as if no one likes me and people will sabotage me to get me fired or degraded. I also have obsessive thoughts about getting cancer in my mouth, jaw or in my nose and having my face mutilated. Even dumb thoughts, like when I'm entering a building and the elevator is not at the ground floor, I feel like it's because I did something wrong that day so now I have to endure inconveniences, like waiting for an elevator that's at the 9th floor. It's not always like this, but it's happening way more often than before. Am I going schizo? I've only been diagnosed with depression and anxiety, autism and some cluster A personality disorders, like schizotypal, were also suspected, but I was never fully diagnosed. My new psychiatrist prescribed me SSRIs and olanzapine which is an antipsychotic drug given to schizos but also people with depression and anxiety, and lamotrigine which is given for mood disorders and epilepsy. I read that antipsychotics damage the brain and I even mentioned that to my psychiatrist, but he seemed offended and said that my current state can damage my brain, not the drugs. I know depression fucks up your brain, but antipsychotics do too. I want to help myself but I'm too afraid to take those drugs. I'm planning to stuck to SSRIs and lamotrigine for now and see what happens. My psychiatrist told me to call him in a month and I don't know how to tell him I decided not to take olanzapine. I'm hopeless because I feel like I'm losing the touch with reality, the only thing that's extremely real is my overwhelming fear that something terrible will happen to me

No. 935362

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>>935356
Just kill the imaginary phantom men who are trying to kill you anon, you’re a badass bitch I know you can handle it. Jokes aside, kek

>autism

>but no schizotypal diagnosis

You’re obviously a stranger so I don’t know that much about you but from what you described you seem more schizotypal than autistic. Schizotypal disorder can impact your ability to communicate and understand social norms which is why it can be seen as comorbid or similar with autism. Trying not to armchair too hard because I’m a dumbass bitch

No. 935638

I fucking hate autists. They are sociopaths without the charm. Truly abandoned by God.

No. 935641

>>930490
FWIW, meds are regularly used (relatively) short-term to get people out of holes like the one you've found yourself in. Usually in conjunction with therapy. Definitely make sure you talk to your doctor about your concerns of taking meds for the rest of your life. Good luck! You're gonna be amazed at how good you feel when it lifts. I was. ♥

No. 935644

>>855184
The ones that are typically quiet are women. The ones who never shut the fuck up are scrotes… not different from their non autist counterparts

No. 935684

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Addicts.

I don’t know what my mom has but I hate it so much it might just be her being an addict but I think she was depressed In my early childhood. She didn’t work, she was a stay at home mom that did absolutely nothing. Most of my memories of her from like when I was 4 to when I was 7 were her sleeping or watching TV. I don’t know if she was on anything back then, but I sort of resented her because she didn’t make us breakfast, she would turn the TV on for us occasionally but she was remarkably lazy or tired. I would mostly go outside and when I’d come back she would be grumpy. I would show her stuff or tell her things and she would be like “ugh.” And then proceed to make me feel bad for what I’d said or showed her. I didn’t have good hygiene because she didn’t teach me well, I never brushed my teeth, I didn’t know how to properly wash my hair, etc. All I ate was junk and instant meals I learned to make myself. When I was 13, I had found out about her using Meth, I don’t know if she had been using all along or I don’t know if she had just started.
She has done things like
>stealing from stores and people she knows and tried falsifying a check from one of her friends, getting a food stamps card in my name, (she had asked me and my sister to see who had a better fake signature )
>desperate for attention from any man. Me and my sister were horriied when we found out she was friends with two guys we knew and went to school with on her social media) she lets these men treat her like garbage
>is controlling: I didn’t have a phone until I was 15 and she disabled the camera and looked through it every week or so
>cheats and then argues with who ever she’s dating; loudly and all the damn time (usually those mf DO cheat on her but she does too)
>histrionic and cringey ; she will make crude and mean comments and awful jokes and they usually never land well
> manipulative she cries and begs and blackmails
> and she doesn’t seem to care about anyone but herself. She says she does but she has proved many time by stealing and lying to us and leaving us for like weeks at a time to fend for ourselves
Addicts are the damn worst. Anytime I said anything about her to family, they would say
~that’s your mom tho~ ~ooooooh she’s getting better~
Or
~just because someone does bad things doesn’t make them baddd~

it’s really hard to sympathize with an active addict. I don’t mind people who’ve made a full recovery
Pic unrelated

No. 935847

>>935362
Do you think I should take the olanzapine though? I read that it makes people sleepy, even the smallest dose, and I'm already pretty sleepy and apathetic most of the time

No. 935849

>>935847
I don’t know much about SSRIs but if you’re already fatigued and apathetic the last thing you want to do is take something that’ll suck the rest of your energy out kek

No. 935881

>>935847
Nta but I took olanzapine for a short time. I was having short term delusions brought on by extreme stress. It tires you, can increase your appetite, you can gain weight and it's not all caused by just the appetite increase as it legit affects your metabolism too. If you're actively having delusions it works though and ime it takes the edge off anxiety better than any ssri. If it didn't make me gain weight (I bloated up in just weeks) I would've stayed on it.

No. 935889

>>935881
clonidine also gives you delusions. Side effects vary but if i take it without sleeping right away I start having mild hallucinations

No. 935904

>>935847
Wouldn't take any drugs to solve a problem if I didn't understand the source of the problem and how the drug worked, in great detail.

We sound very similar and all I can say to you is that I'm happy that the internet exists so us weirdos can contact each other, and also, don't blindly trust drugs.

Consider if those making them are doing it to make you better or get more money from you. There have been recorded long term effects from SSRIs that only show up a long while later.

And if the problem is a chemical imbalances, then there are plenty of drug free chemical solutions. Exercise releases happy chemicals just like a drug, as does sunshine, a great diet, and being around those you love. Taking a cold shower, furthermore, can have an antidepressant effect. Don't care if my advice is cringe, schizo or antivaxxer, I realise that we our brain reacts to what's around us and tell us when our way of living isn't right. Anyway, I wish you the best because pattern seeking brains can be exhausting and stressful. Go easy on yourself.

No. 936048

>>935849
Olanzapine is not a SSRI though, it's an antipsychotic medication.
>>935881
For how long exactly did you take it anon? And did the benefits it gave you stayed with you after you dropped it?
>>935904
Sounds great but I don't have any loved ones to surround myself with, my mom is dead and she was abusive anyway, my father is an useless alcoholic and I don't know him well, my family is in denial about my condition and there's no point in talking to them, I don't have any friends, I have a stressfull job where I can't make any friends either because I'm socially inept, even if someone talks to me I don't know how to respond, I forget to look at them etc. After 4 months people basically stopped starting conversations with me because they noticed I'm unresponsive. I had my hobbies but now I lost any interest in them

And the older I get the more I realize how much I lost. I had the chance to be a legit artist, to go to an acting school etc., but my schizo-autistic retardation ruined it for me and I can't forgive myself. Even if I suddenly become normal, I would be too old for the things I wanted to do. I will never live the life I wanted to live and I don't know how to cope

No. 936417

People with ED and fat people in general, which is an ED in itself.
I had an anorexic neighbour who would constantly ring at our door for us to help her open coke bottles because she was "too weak to do so". My tinfoil is that she just wanted to show us that she was eating something (despite us not giving a fuck) and would dump the coke in the sink afterwards.
Fat people are just insufferable, waaaahing all the time and making condescending comments about your own weight if you're thin. Will always remember this hambeast "friend" of mine who would loose her shit everytime me and other friends would talk about working out together alongside calling anyone on the thin spectrum "bony", fuck that bitch.

No. 936425

>>936417
Oh my God, my neighbor would constantly get my boyfriend to go over to her house and pour her dog food into a bin for her because it was "too heavy". I think she just wanted attention from him it was honestly so pathetic. I told him point-blank he wasn't allowed to help her anymore she can just open the fucking dog food and feed her mutt from the bag. Pathetic. Coke-ana was 100% doing it for attention from you guys. That kind of behavior gets me so fucking pissed. It's just pathetic and it evokes the opposite of pity

No. 936432

Bpd in men. So idk if this fag is diagnosed or what, I guess not because he is a guy. But it's so obvious and ten thousand times more pathetic as when women display this behaviour.
>Is an insecure lil bitch
>Surrounds himself with girls who are even more insecure
>Is poly
>After one meeting he puts pictures of this girl on his wall
>You so special uwu I think I will tell the other girls off
>Second meeting he tells all his traumatic shit he went through as a child
>Collects pity as its a trophy or something
>Sooooo spiritual
>Gets flashbacks and starts crying
>Writes poems about his trauma
>Ugly as sin lol thats just a bonus
>Always overstays because he is not able to let go and go home alone
>Never wants to be alone
>Third meeting is two weeks long with no break
>Loves drugs but of course for spiritual growth and not like the other junkies
>No job
>Everyone so mean to me
Sorry for sperg this guy is just no good I see a dark time coming

No. 936435

>>936425
My personal anachan neighbour also had a dog kek. The dog was as skinny as her and would puke randomly all the time.
>It's just pathetic and it evokes the opposite of pity
Exactly. Worst thing being her personal life story was sad as fuck. Her ex-bf told us that when he met her she was a successful model. She was sexually abused by her uncle when she was a kid and then got raped again by a moid from her agency, which started her ED. One day the boyfriend rang at our door and said that he couldn't take it anymore and had to leave. Her attention seeking behaviors got worse after that

No. 936821

>>936417
finally someone who finds both types at different ends of the spectrum annoying

>>936048
So Olanzapine is supposed to make you feel better but it's not going to make you friends, or give you a more fulfilling life. It won't calm you down (as this seems anxiety related)
I know how dark and cold it feels at the moment. We really do have a lot in common, surprisingly, not wanting to say much. You deserved to have a family that looked after you well, and it's probably harder for you to make the first steps. But just talk to strangers. Go to some random meetings. And accept that you are cringe, so that you can be your true self. I need to be reminded of this, but some people really don't care if you're awkward, and you're more of a queen if you're aware of being awkward and decide to try nonetheless.
Unpopular advice, but the easiest way to have social interaction is by joining a church. You can attend even if you don't believe in God one bit, and that's a place to force yourself to go to, and a place to talk to people. They can be a community centre too where there are many events to hear about and many people to connect with.
About your job being sucky and the blessing of autism, there's not much to be done. Just be kind to yourself. Make yourself packed lunches with yummy healthy food, have a cleaning routine and a playlist to go along with it, look after someone's cat. You don't deserve to have bad things happen to you, and the world isn't revolving around you in a superstitious way. I know how it feels, but you have to expect the feeling. I hallucinate in many ways, like seeing spiders on the walls, feeling them on my skin, hearing voices and music, and occasional paranoia. I just like to think of it as a superpower. Secret hearing and senses, cowabunga!
I hate getting older too. I think of missed oppurtunities a lot and end up ruining my day. We have to stop, because our brains like habits and patterns and we will make it harder for ourselves. Why can't you pick up your hobby again? If you join an online or irl group related to it, you will have the motivation to keep going.

tl;dr sometimes you have to force yourself to find happiness, expect the paranoia, keep challenging yourself, and go to church

No. 938799

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>>936821
Thank you for your advice anon, I want to digest what you said and get myself together, but after what happened today it seems even harder. I had like a full meltdown at my job and the only coworker I talk to went to my team manager to tell her she's worrying about me because I'm stressing over everything all the time, I cry over nothing, like small mistakes no one gives a shit about, and I'm coming to work sick because I'm afraid of getting fired (like today was the first day of my period and I felt terrible, I vomited, I was very weak etc.) So I had a talk with my team manager and my supervisor and I couldn't stop crying in front of them, it was so fucking cringe, they assured me I have nothing to worry about and that I'm a good employee, I was trying to tell them it's not just about the job, it's about being around people etc. but I felt they didn't really get that, or maybe I was speaking too quietly, I don't know, I was in a very bad emotional state. They also told me they think I've changed since my first day and now at least I talk to someone, unlike before, and that everyone has their own pace at which they change, and that people accept me the way I am. They also allowed me to go home ealier and rest. Like, on one hand it was better than I expected to hear, but on the other hand I feel retarded and pathetic and I can't stand the fact that someone at my job saw me at such vulnerable state. One part of me wants to reach out to them sometimes, but the other thinks they're fucking normies who just say what their liberal policies command them to say to an autistic retard like me and deep down they think I'm crazy, pathetic and stupid and they talk shit behind my back. I wish my mindset wasn't so abusive. Writing this down made me cry again, I just can't take it

No. 938822

>>854950
>>855160
Both of this. I generally get along well with people who are different. Have shizoid friends, can related to ADHD and such too since I am an autist. But I cannot deal with this new wave of anxiety bullshit since it's just an one-sided way to control over what other people are allowed to say. Plus points if you aren't even allowed to vent because nevative feelings are also causing anxiety.

It's like being surrounded by toddlers with special needs and constantly censoring yourself. The worst shit is that this attitude seems to be everywhere these days. I don't know if it's some way of control or a horrible internet meme, but it's terrible.
Especially since I lack social contacts in real life for being an autist. Internet was always the method I used to have fun. Talk about hobbies and fandoms you are in. But now everything is flooded by these people.
I even had panic attacks as young kid and it was absolutely not like this. And I never bothered others with it either.

No. 938846

>>872637
Fucking same. It's making my life much more enjoyable and completely destroying at the same time.
I do it almost 100% of the time I am awake. Even while I am thinking of what I should answer in this post I see short scenes of my alter ego popping up in which I am trapped in some astral world or something. Everything I do and think gets projected into some movie-like parallel reality in which I am living through events that are metaphors or otherwise related to mean real needs, emotions, ideas and so on. Like a reflection.

It's hard to do anything since daydreaming is way easier and usually more rewarding. Why working for anything if I can just imagine already having it right now?

No. 939039

>>878403
I know it’s a late reply but this post has helped me realise why I can’t keep friends around. It’s because I’m a fucking pain in the ass. I always lamented “what’s wrong with meeee?!” When I could only have acquaintances or friends I see infrequently but now I know. I’m lovely, but a real fucking pain in the ass.

No. 939100

>>938846
I'm the exact same way anon, I've pretty much daydreamed my youth away. The thing is, I don't know if I want to stop. It's ruined any chance at me actually having a successful life but at the same time I know I will die without it. Daydreaming is just too fun.

No. 942298

Recurrent depressive disorder. Finally getting treatment. I also have an aunt who has some kind of disorder that fucking sucks and currently visits 2 therapists and she is still a delusional weirdo that first overshares and then gets angry for no reason, cuts off contact and accuses you of the wildest things. When I first started searching for a therapist I asked her for advice and she kept trying to call me every day to ramble on how our family is cursed and that my great-grandpa was in a prison camp for communists and why that is the cause of our mental problems. My dad also might have something because me and my siblings had to endure a lot of mental and emotional abuse from him.

No. 942323

most autistic guys in my country are so fucking irritating

No. 942367

>>942298
You, for yourself, have to keep in mind that yes, you might be fucked by your genetics, but with all the help today you don't have to turn out like your family. It's a lot of work, but your brain can change and with the right care somehow get better. Try to ignore your aunt, you won't need two therapists like her and I hope that you can work through your trauma because of your abusive father.

No. 943917

What's the nonnies' opinion on DID? I've seen so much zoomers roleplaying ocs but it is an actual disorder, a bad coping way or just the next Little Bitch Disorder?

No. 943921

>>943917
There's either schizos or attention seekers.

No. 943946

>>943917
Here's an article about it. Called DSM-5-Tik-tok and it's an interesting read. There's actually a name for the case of those kids faking their diseases called Fastidious Disorder.

https://thefrontierpsychiatrists.substack.com/p/dsm-5-tiktok

No. 943952

>>943946
Here’s my hot take if someone is faking a mental illness there is something legitimately wrong with them it’s just that they’re very histrionic or narcissistic kek

No. 943960

>>943946
that article lists a tiktok user who is faking her tourettes as an example of someone "not faking it". ThisTrippyHippy magically only got her tics at 17 years old and has videos on her youtube channel from years ago where she's a teenager and nothing is wrong.

No. 947742

I'm a lanky fuck due to Marfan's and always being perceived as some sort of semi-deity by EDfags made me develop an intense hatred for these clowns. I can't cope with their insane amounts of projection, vanity, narcissism, blaming everyone and their froyo for their issues instead of looking for ways to get better, just their everything. I could fart in their general direction and they'd take it as a sign that I'm secretly one of them. No. Fuck off.

The worst is for the longest time I was completely oblivious to their shit and always mistaking their whatever the fuck it is they're doing for flirting with me. Like this one cute barista at my uni would always remember my order and be extra nice or random girls would stare at me and I thought it's because they fancied me but no they're always straight and it's probably just my arms are looking extra gross today and they're envious. Fucking amazing.

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>>943946
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/conditions/factitious-disorder-munchausen-syndrome
>Factitious Disorder (Munchausen Syndrome)
so munchies then. I hope every single tiktoker who fakes shit gets called out with this

No. 948832

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hoping this is the right thread to post this cause i definitely can't deal with my mental disorders. i'm basically an anachan without the anachan diagnosis although i was diagnosed in the past (as a kid, in 2009 and most recently 2016). i'm in a place right now partly due to my actually diagnosed bpd where i keep going 3-5 days without eating anything and my bmi is hovering in the 14 range. i have a new job i'm still in the probationary period for and seem to only have four options going forward.

>manage to eat more/gain weight at home by myself while seeing my therapist once a week. i've been trying to do this but it's kind of hard as stupid as it sounds kek. the pattern i'm in right now is eating one big meal and then starting to worry about everything again and going back into not eating for days mode

>get referred to an eating disorder service with a day unit as my therapist brought up. i don't want to do this because i would need an assessment and i worry they'll reject me on the basis of me not being unwell enough. i was in an inpatient unit at one point and hated it
>keep getting worse and end up voluntarily going to a general ward for a few weeks for refeeding. my therapist tried to admit me recently but they didn't take me because my vitals weren't that shitty. i worry this would put my job at risk
>keep getting worse and end up being involuntarily committed (this has also happened before) and kiss my job goodbye

i feel really clueless and really lonely and don't know what to do. i don't want to lose my job, i don't want to go through some weird judgemental assessment by professionals who think i'm not sick enough, eating at home is hard. i genuinely hate living like this but don't know how to stop. any advice would be appreciated. i don't want this post to come across as a weird ana brag or anything, i just needed to dump it somewhere.

No. 948991

Not an official disorder but the specific brand of mother mental disorder where they play martyr victim and expect you to play their personal therapist and maid.

No. 949001

>>947742
I'm sorry about than anon, it sounds awful. I have severe anxiety (like, the actual disorder, not zoomer anxiety) and the biggest symptom is nausea that comes and goes almost randomly every day, which makes it hard for me to eat full meals. Before I knew what it was it got so bad that I would skip eating or retch as I tried to and literally everyone, even doctors, ignored everything I said about it because to them I was just a lying anachan. I remember fucking sobbing in the doctor's office begging him to just help me with the symptoms and all I got was the address for a rehab facility. Ended up actually going through rehab because of the weight loss only to be told that it wasn't an ED and to go somewhere else at the end of it. So yeah, I hate anachans too.

No. 949013

i'm almost certain i have OCD (skin and hair picking/pulling, intrusive thoughts any time i'm not actively doing shit, big issues with contamination/germs) but the last thing i want is to be diagnosed with it. i think my PTSD diagnosis absorbs most of the "OCD" symptoms i have and i genuinely think that if i went to a professional that could diagnose things i'd be slapped with the OCD title but i want to avoid it as much as possible. do any OCD anons have tips and tricks that they use to help w/ their compulsions that i could employ to try and like… make it Less Bad?

No. 949185

>>948832
>>949013
Have you read op post or what? This is not the hugbox of nobody, see a mf therapist, this thread is for venting for people being affected by the other's mental disorders.

No. 949976

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>>854673
There're a couple types I just can't with:
>BPDfags
Yes, they're probably the most mentioned in these threads but idgaf. Being around them and trying to delve into serious topics with them is such a fucking chore, you could literally just be talking about how fucked up it is in general to hold someone accountable for someone else's suicide or self-harm, and these bitches will take it all the way personally because that's literally them. They have the disadvantages and strategies of a literal sociopath, but because they're truly at the mercy of their emotions, they're fully within ability to spin it all into a sob story to avoid accountability.
>"self-aware" ASPDs and sociopaths
Listen, retard, I don't give a fuck about how not every one of yous is a serial killer. The only thing I need to know is that a considerable amount of you all harbor the ability. You bitching about 'negative representation' means fuckall to anyone with a brain, all it amounts to is a strategy to be countered mercilessly. The less self-aware ones can at least be avoided or institutionalized (if they're literally too stupid to stop killing and raping) because they out themselves so much, but the 'self-aware' ones are just really fucking tedious and need to shut the fuck up. I see what you're doing when you coyly go about how you have this superpower, like an 'emotional switch'. If only you could find the switch to put you into sleep mode so the rest of us can save energy while you keep being as useful as you've always been.
>people with avoidant attachment styles
You're abusive. Fuck you. That's all you need to hear. You need no further validation. You're a cold, slippery, splashing human turd. Never date anybody if it's so goddamn hard to be you. Avoidants will be the most viciously judgmental, edgy and uncaring people, but once you have them by the balls they act like they can't be held accountable because they're just too anxious and depressed. Just like the bpdfags they so despise, avoiding all responsibility of their dealings with others. Pathetic.
>people who come into this thread complaining about their own mental illnesses
lmao there's a thread for that already, go there or find the vent thread in case you're going through a situation.

No. 949978

I hate ADHD motherfuckers. Your parents lied to you because they couldn’t handle dealing with a little shit. Now you excuse that for everything. Oh I can’t concentrate on my 100 paper thesis because ADHD.

No. 950013

>>949976
sage for samefag, but correction: *strategies of a literal narcissist
is what I meant to say

No. 950094

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look at these bpd-chans justifying their splitting

No. 950095

>>950094
What does splitting mean?

No. 950096

I can't even be casual friends with someone into gender woowoo shit. If you buy into that nonbinary shit you are just stupid to me. I can't respect you

No. 950097

>>950094
Hanging out in an echo chamber, no desire to be better

No. 950098

>>950094
gross, the internet hugbox type of culture really has them thinking this shit is cute

No. 950099

>>950095
Going from loving someone and being clingy/obsessed to hating them and being mean af and sometimes even abusive bc they did something the bpd-chan didn’t like or even perceived as a slight

No. 950100

>>950099
I went through this with my mom for so many years. You should see the fucking chats I have with her. She'll go from calling me her precious pearl that she adores and can't live without to sending me pics of herself saying shit like "you'll never be this pretty, bitch, and you have to live with that forever"

No. 950101

>>949976
>avoidant attachment styles
This was my ex to a t and he broke up with my twice bc he’s just too uwu sadboi broken and when I was like alright peace the second time he flipped the fuck out and kek

No. 950103

BPD, ADHD, and fat people who are not self aware

No. 950109

>>950106
exactly
they can go 'wah wah I need affection too' all they want, but the last thing people need to do is to fall into that trap and coddle these absolute vampires further

No. 950606

>>950094
These fuckers hide behind the "BUT-BUT MENTAL HEALTH STIGMA!!!" to justify their shitty and abuse behaviour, next to people actually suffering from shit that's more critic than their "Omg I need attention" bullshit, I despise them with all my heart, they deserve nothing.

No. 950819

I'm a BPD-chan who's been through shit tons of therapy and medications and most people are very surprised to hear about my diagnosis. So it's hypocritical of me, as a fellow cluster B, but my god I can't stand narcissists. Disgusting "humans".

No. 950882

>>936432
>poly

this is the mental disorder I can't deal with tbqh

No. 951192

I don't like people who are paranoid and believe weird conspiracies. Or tell me they're schizophrenic and used to believe in alien abductions and that some celebrity was an omniscient god. I feel bad for them as I can't imagine what it's like to suffer through this. I am not heartless, but honestly stuff like the tinfoil thread makes me sick, it's so creepy and annoying. At least this is just the internet, I hate IRL where people try to infect you with their fear and psychosis. Freaks. I hope all who suffer from psychotic disorders get proper treatment, but I don't want them close to me in my life. I have before and it was annoying that I could say something innocuous and they'd freak out or become paranoid because it touched on some crazy fear/delusion they had in the past and it made it hard to talk to them at all. I dread getting involved with someone and they develop or it turns out they have a psychotic disorder and I have to deal with this shit again.

No. 962510

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>>854673
Addiction.
My partner is an addict and while I DO love them to death, I couldn't handle it if it were anyone else. I try to be as understanding and patient and supportive as I can and they appreciate and thank me when sober, but resent me and think I'm lying and cheating when they're not sober.
The hardest part is that they'll never fully understand why or how their addiction hurts me and their family so much. It's so unfair and lonely when they relapse, it's like they gets to numb themself while I'm left by myself to deal with the emotional pain of whatever happened, along with added pain of seeing them using. It's utter emotional abandonment. They're also really rude and never have time for me when they're using because they sleep constantly. They lie to me about whether or not they're using when they relapse, and I have to find out on my own when I have suspicions. I'll probably never be able to fully trust them with money or telling the truth. It's crippling me with stress because I never know when things are going to get bad again. Sometimes they make me feel like I'm being selfish for thinking this way.

No. 962520

>962510
>they/them
is this person a theylet, anon? To me this relationship doesn't sound healthy and you should really reconsider it all together is this person refuses to get sober for the sake of his or her loved ones. That's something incredibly egoistic from their part and its probably they don't care enough if they keep relapsing over and over.

No. 962526

>>962520 meant to reply to >>962510 sorry

No. 962532

>>962510
Jesus christ life is way too short for this shit. I don't know what you're punishing yourself for, or if you have super low self esteem, but I promise anon you don't deserve this. This person is wasting your time, lying to you, and making you feel like shit. That's not love.

No. 962558

>>962510
you are absolutely not selfish. this relationship is a dead end, or worse, it's a cliff that you'll drive the car that is your life, your potential, your love, etc right off of.

No. 962770

>>962520
They're not a theylet but I just wanna make sure they wouldn't know I was talking about them if they ever found this somehow.

They've been sober for half a year, and have been making efforts to get better. They're really sweet to me and actually a great partner, the only problem is just fear of them relapsing. They have a lot of trauma and it's been their only coping mechanism for a good couple years before I even knew them.
I still have faith and things have been great! Just hope it keeps improving.

Thanks for your words though, I haven't been able to tell anyone what I'm going through. Also sorry I'm not sure if this counts as blogposting.

No. 962772

Can’t stand 2dspergs

No. 962783

>>950100
holy shit anon. she is hella jealous of you though. she actually thinks she will never be as pretty as you and she has to live with it. i have to laugh at your sad mother

No. 962865

>>962510
hey nonnita, im sorry ur going thru this. ur partner needs to get into a program asap. its not ur responsibility to hold their hand thru addiction. i went thru this with a partner too. the lying is the worst part and the hardest to get over. they probably need to get clean without you. its been one of the hardest choices ive ever made and sometimes you never stop being the enemy but its worse being an enabler in someones story (not trying to be harsh, its just that i dont want u to stay thinking ur their savior, they have to be) wishing u luck

No. 963103

I can't stand ClusterBippies, aka "I need constant attention disorder"
While I do believe they suffer, the people around them suffer too and I can't stand anyone who takes zero accountability and always tries to pass off as the victims

No. 977786

Can't stand majority of ADHDers. They'll excuse being a shit friend with "getting distracted cus ey dee eych dee!" and often never bother to use rational thinking in anything. Like I have ADHD myself retard, and I don't be a dismissive annoying lazy acquaintance who makes kindergartner jokes.

No. 977789

>>977786
Fellow adhder here and same
You just know those types of people were overjoyed to have a precious diagnosis to blame everything on
I want adhd to be unfashionable and hated again

No. 977795

>>977786
holyshit, same here. Honestly at this point I don't know how to call their shits out properly without them deflecting to "it's because of my ADHD/ADD :^(" listen Karen your work is due last week and we know you've been streaming FFXIV.
It gets to my nerves more that no one wants to interfere when they intentionally neglect their duties & chores, and people continue to forgive them and dote them even more.

No. 977835

>>977786
ADHD is the new depression, every lazy fuck has it now, I see it cropping up so much. It makes me wonder if it's become profitable to diagnose for some reason, but maybe normies just like having access to legal meth

No. 977893

>>977786

Sameeee. I'm an ADHD (and BPD) too and I avoid most of my kind like the fucking plague. Like they say they can't help being totally in the clouds because they're lazy little Gen Z fucks who are chronically on Twitter. Yes ADHD does cause organisation problems, but it's literally not that fucking hard to try a little more and keep a routine if you struggle. Weak people are the bane of this generation

No. 978286

>>977786

Former ex would never communicate and would use her distraction ADHD and bad memory as an excuse for being a shitty partner in general, I get ya.

No. 978288

My best friend has bipolar. While she's pretty rational and strong as a friend, I'm tired of having to walk on eggshells at times during her episodes. Surprisingly my experiences with NPD have been nice, met a few who were pretty chill and understanding of their diagnoses and self aware, but I have seen other NPDs who are…yikes. Also autistic teenagers who use their autism as a synonym for their transtrender non-binary neopronoun mud/flo/wer/clovergender bullshit.

No. 978917

I thought I don't mind "managed" BPD but no, I can't do it. Honestly I can't deal with any mental illness.

No. 979152

Why are male autists always so obese lmao

No. 979484

>>979152
I've seen both extremes. It's weird how few of them can hold a normal weight.

I used to take a course with one who was scrawny as fuck and in my 3 years of knowing him and seeing him monday to friday.. he never took his coat off once. You could tell he was just bones under it though. He was also one of the quiet ones so I felt for him. He was pretty alright.. by autistic scrote standards at least.

No. 982237

I've been reading about some lolcow drama and honestly I really hate bpd and npd. Remember there is no cure for these disorders. People like that should be locked up for everyone else's safety.

No. 982482

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>>978917
bpd is never managed. its one of the steadiest red flags

No. 982553

>>982482
been dealing with an ex friend with BPD and this is so accurate i could fucking die. especially the "ur literally irrelevant to me but i'll keep this online drama up for a few more months", "kys bitch.. omg how dare you say it back fucking ableist cyber bully" etc. the actual most frustrating subhuman lunatics on earth.

No. 982555

>>977786
>>977835
never make the mistake of dating a guy with ADHD unless he actually proves he manages it. otherwise, ADHD will forever be the scapegoat of everything literally ever. huge mistake there kek. but yeah i think they love diagnosing lazy braindead moids with it even if they don't spend much on meds

No. 982599

>>979152
I've also met both extremes, I guess working out or portion control isn't among their interests most of the time. Also the skinny autists I know also eat like absolute shit, they're usually just young and it'll probably catch up with them past 25.

No. 982687

>>979152
it's probably an american thing, hon.

No. 982743

>>982482
doesn't it have a high recovery success rate provided a bpd-chan goes to a quality therapy? I believe in many cases it calms down a bit once they reach 30 years

No. 983045

>>977786
I have ADHD and I fucking hate how much it interferes with my life and makes me feel like a huge failure. I also hate how many retards out there abuse ADHD meds on purpose then turn around and cry about how "dangerous" they are. If a sped like myself can manage stimulant medication for years without turning into an anorexic meth head, then there's really no excuse.

No. 984197

>>982555
god seconding this. cost me so much time and money, begging them to give a shit about anyone besides themselves is like pulling teeth and bringing up how their neglect hurts you is actually your fault bevause they are ~sensitive uwu im neurotypical~.

No. 984205

>>984201
You can try a little harder then that if you're trying to get a rise out of someone anon.

No. 984220

>>984219
it's true, ADHD isn't real and your coochie is dry

No. 984222

I can’t deal with my own fucking ADHD.

Literally I can’t be alone with my thoughts, I need to have a podcast playing in the fucking shower because I go insane if I’m left alone with nothing to distract me for too long.
I could tolerate this but I can’t tolerate the hyperfixations. I just want to unfixate so badly, but I can’t deal with the empty space left in my brain if I’m not fixating on some stupid hobby, activity or show. I hate the fact that some stupid thing on a fictional fucking TV show has pissed me off for two full days and I just can’t stop.

No. 984233

>>984223
They honestly need to suck it up and make a point of never using anxiety as an excuse. I don't judge people who are too anxious to party or date or w/e, but things like making phone calls or driving or interacting with cashiers or w/e are so necessary to functioning in daily life that you'd have to be very spoiled to get by without doing it. It's a modern luxury to not participate in public life just because you don't like it and still survive.

No. 984266

>>984222
Are you on meds anon? It should help a bit

No. 984302

whatever fucking disorder it is that makes some men compulsively lie about retarded shit all the time, and not even believable lies just always having a story to tell and a one up on whatever anyone is saying like idk if its some adhd/autism lack of social awareness and being emotionally stunted but it's dumb and i hate it

No. 984305

I can't deal with OCD. Constantly having to walk on eggshells around them. I know they can't help it and all but it's best if they stay away.

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I feel like I've dealt with enough autistic people in my life, but the last one I had the misfortune to work with definitely sucked out any patience left in my body.
She'd jump in a middle of important discussions to have her Teehee I'm random XD moment. She's constantly disruptive for No fucking reasons and idk how anyone around her can hold back their violent urge to slap her across the face whenever she interrupted us. Thank god I didn't stick with the place for long since it was just a consulting job. The people around her have patience of a saint I swear.

No. 984333

>>984302
Pathological/compulsive lying?

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>>984197
i have been dealing with that shit for four years im going absolutely insane. i love this guy but there are days i consider violence (in minecraft)

No. 984933

>>984233
This. I have it and holy shit is it annoying, especially when it’s a necessity to socialize. I actively have people wanting to hang out with me, trying to make plans, but right when the date comes along I always pull off the dumbest ass excuse and it leaves me back to square one, and set to repeat the process all over again. This may not be the right thread to say this, but I hate that social anxiety is classed as “worried of being judged” when it feels like any interaction, especially intimate, with another human being could kill me

No. 989403

Which of the cluster b disorders is the most annoying? Personally it's BPD for me. ASPD and NPD are oddly chill or just don't care from experience but idk

No. 989407

>>989403
Cluster b is just a shit personality buffet. None of them are tolerable for long and very few ever even want to be sort of decent and indulge in being terrible

No. 989425

>>989403
NPD is extremely rare and mostly prevalent in moids which I don't interact with, ASPDs are such spergs that they can't hide it making them easier to avoid so it's BPD for me, it's much more common than NPD and just as destructive in my opinion. The only good thing about BPD over NPD is that BPD can be cured or at least controlled with rigorous therapy but so many people with BPD don't want to be cured, instead they prefer to be the unstable assholes that they are because it's become their identity. That's why you see so many BPD cases whining about how wanting them to fix their terrible behavior is "ableism" and you should just accept them being suicide baiting, unstable drama queens and supply them with endless amounts of external validation.

No. 989444

>>989403
I've met OK bpders and I've known the really classic one. You could almost tell she had a personality disorder within seconds of her entering a room. She had a traumatic enough history that you'd want to cut her some slack but then she was 27, a shit mom, cheating on her super patient partner and she had plans to stop her birth control behind his back. All while she was unstable, her house was a pigsty 'cuz depression' and she was dragging the friend group out drinking every night only to then dump her rehashed child sex abuse history on us after 3 or 4 drinks. Sitting in pubs casually discussing child molestation became an ongoing thing. It was alot. Her whole identity was that she was born into bad circumstances so she deserved to sulk and wallow forever. It was to the cost of every adult relationship she had. She couldn't see that. She expected people to put their own feelings aside all the time because her childhood events were almost held over everyones heads as a power card.

She put us in the awkward position of acting like she could barely pull herself out of bed.. then telling us about her plans to secretly get pregnant. Her partner already had been pregnancy trapped the first time and she freely told us that so she could very well do it again. What do you do in that situation? She expected loyalty between girlfriends? She told us she had postpartum psychosis after the first baby. But you could never tell what was a lie and what was true.

This friend group even met through a mental health service so she wasn't the only bpder in it.. she wasn't the only csa survivor in it either.. but she stood out by a mile. Sucks you in with a sad story and then does everything she can to never lose that initial sympathy. Sucks the life out of you and expects that people will never leave. Almost a case of the abused becomes the abuser? Except she'd never see it that way. Keeping some boundaries and walking away was probably just seen as abandonment by her.

No. 990007

Whatever disorder it possibly is that spawns the sjw types. I've dealt with too many for years and thought I was finally safe from meeting any new ones but my friend group I recently reconnected with has been inviting this girl along every time we hang out and she cannot shut the fuck up about herself or whatever microaggression had been recently committed against her. One of our friends is an actually diagnosed autist and as soon as this girl found out she suddenly had autism too, which she uses as an excuse to talk as loud as she possibly can about how mentally ill she is and how her gender is influenced by her current favorite anime character while we're inside a tiny restaurant next to families who just want to eat their fucking food. We went to go see a well known romance movie recently, she knew what movie we were seeing and had even seen it before, and still afterwards she would not stop whining about how heteronormative it was right in the middle of the theater. Bitch, why did you come then? I cant even tell her to politely shut up because I feel like she'll turn all my friends against me for being a transphobe or some shit. I love all my other friends in this group but I've started turning down invitations every time they ask to get together because I know she'll be there.

Not only that but these types can never have just one mental disorder. They HAVE to have autism, bpd, schizophrenia, did, and whatever the fuck else they think is cool all while being self-diagnosed because therapists are just sooo misogynistic and they don't have insurance anyway because their depression and anxiety makes it so hard to find work :(((

No. 990050

>>990007
is it a tiktok thing or people over diagnosed themselves with DID more often recently.

i never understand this "having mental illness cool" thing, while I understand having to be open about our mental illness, the types that flaunts their own disorders are just major redflags to me.

for record, I have schizophrenia (officially diagnosed for 8 years now), I've never met another person who's also diagnosed with schizophrenia (with exceptions of cows being called schizo as insult). It's a beast to manage it relapsed especially hard during the pandemic. I'm lucky to surround myself with understanding peers, but I often wish it didn't happen to me and I could've have a more fulfilling life without it.

No. 990182

>>989403
as a bpdfag with a narcissist leaning parent who I can't tell whether she's actually a narc or a narc bpdlite I think narcs or straight up emotionless shell explosive aspd types are the worst. bpdfags feel feelings and have some vague illusion of empathy, they feel bad, narcs and aspd types will throw you under the bus without a question and never apologize or care for the harm they cause. of course maybe I'm biased but I find bpdfags far less insufferable even though I fucking hate some of them compared to other cluster b

No. 990193

>>990182
agree with this.

No. 990214

>>990182
What difference does feeling bad make, if you'll still do it again or use it to play the victim? Apologies are just empty words if the actions don't match. Bpd might have affective empathy, but cognitive is definitely lacking. I'd rather be thrown under the bus than have another bpdfag cut their wrists over an unread message, in an attempt to guilt trip.

No. 990217

>>990214
not all bpdfags are the guilt tripping kind who make their life your problem and frankly dealing with someone who at least has emotional capacity and understands it is better than dealing with someone who's an apathetic douche with none

No. 995345

>>984197
>>982555
Things like this make me think psychs in my country are right to under diagnose ADHD. If these people didn't had their cognitive disability as an excuse, they would be forced to behave decently to adapt to normal expectations of social life.

No. 995527

>>989403
ASPD and NPD often have this sniffs-own-farts vibe going on in my experience, it can get tiring after a while not to mention that you really can't operate with the same level of trust when it comes to these folks. Or maybe I've met just this one 'type' of embarrassingly smug antisocial people. BPD though gets insufferable pretty quick and they're able to do as much of the same damage as narcissists or sociopaths. After all, what they have in common is the inability to make a lasting distinction between an ally and an opponent. BPDfags will pull the same shit as a narcissist or a sociopath and the like, but it's painfully obvious how much they genuinely suffer from being rejected, thus anyone with a bit of empathy will actually struggle with safely pushing them away. Once a narcissist is 'out' to multiple people there's really no consideration, but with borderlines it's a different story, there's much more guilt and what-ifs. Abandoning people who don't want to abandon you back always hurts more than booting a cold-blooded antisocial.

No. 995532

>>995345
I'd rather have in this era people actually be underdiagnosed up until all mental illnesses and neurological traits are thoroughly reclassified and renamed by which part of the brain/nervous system misfires and causes the issue. Who knows how much of a variety of issues gets diagnosed as autism and ADHD and then treated as if all of the cases stem from the same exact physical condition.

No. 996715

People who stay clear of getting a proper diagnosis and who just pick out a long list of the most acceptable disorders out there to explain away all their symptoms. Even when it doesn't fit or explain their situation at all.

Irl I've known people who just won't go near a psych to see what's up. I come from a bit of a culture of that. But they don't make stuff up either. It's a blanket denial and not an imaginative form of denial. Whereas cows that I follow, that I've spent years following (that have bpd or bipolar screamed at them from viewers day in and day out) are like..
>Um yeah I think I have seasonal depression. Someone mentioned adhd and omg I can't sit through long movies any more so yes I have that. I think I'm ocd because sometimes I check to see if I closed the fridge. I picked at a scar yesterday so I have skin picking disorder. I'm an insomniac. I have a disorder that makes me order stuff online. I overeat because of seasonal depression. I do it in the summer too because I read there's actually this thing called summer depression. I also heard about this brand new idea that there's a a very rare and specific disorder… no I don't emotionally abuse everyone around me. What are you all talking about? Anyway back to my skin picking disorder..
Like ffs go get your one big diagnosis that's staring you right in the face and that'll explain away why you're prone to all those other things and also why you like attention so much. Comorbid disorders happen but go find out rather than collecting and just 'identifying with' every new one you read about that's not a horrible P.D. Collecting the lil cute ones to avoid the ones with stigma. Face it.

No. 997307

>>989403

NPD is nuts. I've only met one person with ASPD and they were pretty good, maybe they weren't ASPD or had gone through a lot of therapy, my bet's on the latter. NPD though, there's some that just feel insecure about their accomplishments which I kinda get but the majority of them are fucking horrible

No. 997333

I have hypnagogic hallucinations and i was wondering if any of you have them too and if there are some ways or things you can mellow them at least? I was hearing voices - a crowd of people directly speaking at me but never understanding them because there were so many, keeping me up at night when i was a teenager. It lasted hours so i never slept very much. But then i kinda got better and stopped having them and thought i was finally behind me. But i had a full anesthesia surgery 3 years ago and right after the surgery i started having visual hallucinations at night and sometimes to the point of sleepwalking. I usually saw people staring at me, some freaky silouette or some really weird objects for example a mechanical eggplant thing, and i always got scared as a reflex, but then i realized it was just a hallucination and i proceeded to try to sleep. It was managable.
Well nowadays it's all spiders, spiders every night, spiders on my face, spiders on my bed, spider floating at me on a piece of paper and it freaks me out the most because it's hard to tell if the spider is just a hallucination or it's real. I don't want to take some medications that would influence my brain too much as i don't have very good experinces with them and saw bugs also, but if there was some better way to deal with it like practicing something, some special herb or something… My mother though a hypnosis could help me but i don't know, i don't like people influencing my thinking it seems kinda same like the medication. I guess i'm scared of people trying to manipulate me and what if with that change they would make to my brain also change some other weird things in my brain that i find useful.
I miss the few years i was able to sleep peacefully.

No. 997356

>>997333
anon, I'm really sorry that you have to live this. I'm no doctor but it sounds like you really need meds

No. 997366

>>997333
I have hypnagogic hallucinations too but they’re only when I close my eyes and they HELP me fall asleep. They’re never negatvie, they’re completely random.
Yours sound really intense and I wonder if they’re bordering on real hallucinations.
They might just be regular hypnagogic hallucinations but maybe you’re experiencing them more intensely because your not falling asleep because the negativity of them is keeping you awake. Have you tried taking a sleep aid like Melatonin? Maybe it would help you fall asleep faster so you don’t experience them that way

No. 997370

>>997366 i was thinking about it at one point when i had the voices but then i must have forgotten it existed when they stopped. I'll look into it. I tried some ordinary supplements for sleeping from the drugstore and cbd to make me calmer but they don't help very much whith this.
Yeah i had those nice things like landscapes creating and stuff behind closed eyes to help me fall asleep too, in the healthy time. But the spiders and such i see when i open my eyes too.

No. 997375

>>997333
>>997370
Nayrt but I really recommend you speak to a doctor about it if you're able to. I have hypnagogic hallucinations but mine are just colours and the occasional sound or spooky thing, like the other anon said they help me get to sleep instead of keep me up.
Your vivid descriptions sound more like night terrors as a result of anxiety or even mild psychosis, I would worry that taking the wrong thing unprescribed could cause further problems

No. 997418

>>997333
My sister and father had ones just like what you described (crowds of people in their room, girls in white dresses running down the corridor, etc.) but they went away with age. Mine are just voices talking random nonsense in my ear, but I find they get much worse when I spend a lot of time online so maybe it's worsened by screens or overstimulation.

A common cause of hypnagogic hallucinations is narcolepsy, so get checked for that if you have any other symptoms. It can also be caused by schizophrenia, but sometimes it just occurs on its own. There are a variety of pills that help with hypnagogic hallucinations, but I understand if you're reluctant to go down that route.

I get the impression you might struggle with anxiety and paranoia, so seeing a specialist for that might help. You should also see a sleep specialist, they'd probably know some techniques that could help you. If you don't want to see someone, there are CBT workbooks for anxiety and such that you can buy or download, it would be guided by yourself so there wouldn't be the risk of being manipulated that you're worried about.

In Jungian psychoanalysis, if something keeps attacking you or scaring you in your dream-states, then it's the form your shadow has taken. Your shadow is all the parts of yourself that you're unable to accept. In your case it's taken the form of spiders. By accepting your shadow, you can make it go away. My friend stopped having orca dreams when I told her about this, so maybe it will help you.

No. 997428

>>997375 i get it, i always tried to resolve my problems on my own though and it worked out with like body issues a other things but i'll think about it. It's quite hard to get any psychological doctor in my country, even for kids, there aren't many and they are alawys full.
>>997418 interresting, workbooks sound alright. Gotta think about what the spiders represent, i'm not sure. Normally i'm not that scared of insects i keep exotic roaches as pets and even though spiders as a challenge i can catch a spider in a jar and let him out. It's something deeper i guess.

No. 997429

>>997333
Wow, anon. Thank you. I have this too, but never knew what the word for it was. Mine is just hearing knocking on a door. It scares the fuck out of me even when I know that no one is in my house. Fortunately, I’m very good at ignoring and tuning things out, so that’s what I do. I’m sure you’ve probably already tried that though, sorry I don’t have any better advice.

No. 997440

>>997429 ur welcome hehe. It's hard to ignore because i don't really control my body in the moment it like shoots shock and adrenalin into my heart as a reflex to what i'm seeing even though most of the time i know it's not real ratinally in my brain.

No. 997551

>>997428
It's important to remember that the spider isn't actually a spider-it's a part of your mind. The mask the shadow wears is often random, it's just anything that you would instinctively be afraid of. The most common version is a man that chases you around with a weapon. I read that women have evolved an instinctive dislike of spiders because in caveman times we had to protect our babies from giant tarantulas.

Your issue doesn't necessarily have anything to do with spiders, what seeing the Shadow in your dreams means is that there's an aspect of your personality which you're trying to ignore because of how much distress it causes you. Do you have low self-esteem or anything like that?

Jung's theories are pretty old, and it might not apply to you at all, but I think they're interesting.

No. 997560

I hate being a bpdfag. Feeling like I have to abandon people before they do it to me cuz I'll definitely take it worse is exhausting. I'm aware it's a self fulfilling prophecy but I can't make all the thoughts that I did something wrong and now x person hates me forever makes me irrationally angry then I lash out and I'm actually hated. Maybe going back to therapy will help, idk how to deal with even feeling like I'm being rejected without spiraling out and being toxic

No. 997931

I don’t care what you have but if you don’t work hard to keep it to yourself and minimise how much it affects others then I hate you. If you know certain things you are annoying, toxic, etc then learn to not do them or cover for it or to take yourself out of the situation. I can’t stand people who don’t work on themselves. There is so much information and resources out there if you take the time to read it and make changes.

I say this as someone ADHD/autism who was only diagnosed as an adult (and only because I recognised the symptoms in myself). I’m pretty sure I had cPTSD too but have managed to mostly get over that.

If I can spend my whole life masking, reading up on how to fit in, accept that certain situations don’t work for me, change huge parts of my life, etc then so can you. Everyone has a bad day from time to time but if it’s constantly happening than you need to fix it and stop inflicting it on others.

I know “think yourself better” is a meme but you can work on yourself to get better, even if you don’t want to. You can tell when you are doing something wrong. There’s no excuse to keep pulling others down with you. Just get over yourself already.

No. 997955

>>997560

Sorry to hear that anon. The hardest part is that you know rationally and logically you're being unrealistic but still being unable to not feel those stupid painful feelings inside and feeling like a goddamn retard every time it happens.

No. 997970

I feel bad but I can't handle most forms of OCD, at least the kind that falls into the germaphobia and hypochondriac categories. Then again I'm all about the 5 second rule and I have an actual illness so maybe I'm a bit biased. But spending time with people who need to wipe down the tops of soda cans before drinking, or freaking out if you touch their food, is so exhausting. You have to monitor your every move

No. 998148

DID isn’t real, at least not in the way it’s presented in the media, and i’m not even talking about the fakers. i know a tranny devito through a friend, he claims to be a SyStEm and shows off his diagnosis every chance he gets. makes DID his whole personality alongside being trans. that shit doesn’t exist. sorry

No. 998508

>>998148
Calling anons, besides fakers who are, well, faking, do you believe in DID?

No. 998527

>>998508
Tough question, but I believe some people definitely experience symptoms associated with DID. Not the 'i have 150 alters and am completely aware of them' but amnesia, dissociation, loss of time etc. I don't know if it should be recognized as a disorder due to how rare it is, and how all of the symptoms could be related to any other number of illnesses.

No. 998531

>>998527
It wouldn't matter how rare it is to classify it as a disorder. Rare diseases are still rare diseases. How else would you classify such a thing to make it known as a distinct thing?

No. 998549

>>998531
A mental disorder is a lot harder to pin down than a physical illness. I just meant that since the number of people who suffer these symptoms is so, so small it could be that it's a sign of other disorders or a very severe personality disorder or even a neurological condition.

No. 998624

>>998549
Oh okay, I get what you mean!

No. 998757

my friend has bipolar and psychosis, and was previously diagnosed with schizoaffective.

i have a hard time with her. i try to be as understanding and patient as possible, she's controversial but if anyone in my circle says something bad i always defend her. i talk to her during her episodes and try to help. yet she always finds a way to fuck me over, get mad at me for something exaggerated or something that didn't happen. she accuses me of ignoring her, hating her, talking to people who hate her. it's exhausting especially because i've never done anything like that. she gives me untreated bpd vibes.

i know not all ill people are like this. i have friends who experience psychosis, have bpd, have schizophrenia but are nowhere as paranoid or at least don't project it on me. she recently got mad at me and hasn't been talking to me so i might use that as a way to leave. i've tried.

No. 998759

>>998508
Yes but zero bitches online has it.

No. 998764

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>>998508
I remember about 12/13 years ago I went through this phase of reading and listening to everything I could find on the 'Sybil' case from a few decades ago. Because there wasn't much other talk about DID. That case was a load of horseshit. At the time I was reading up (12ish years ago) pretty much nobody had DID and that one faked case from decades ago was all you'd find when you searched it. Experts didn't agree on it's existance. It was considered controversial, was sooo rare and now it's just not. It comes and goes in trends. Sybil did set off a copycat wave of bullshitters too but professionals were sceptical. And then it died off when sybil was exposed as fake or at least highly exaggerated and manipulated out of a very unwell woman. Here we go again but it's through the medium of teen tiktoks.

I think teens online are just pulling the same shit but without the middleman of a scheming author. Of course other dissociative disorders exist but for the most part it's a special flavor of bpd that makes teens act this out or express themselves through characters they create with purpose. The overlap between official bpd diagnosis and self reported DID is something I see popping up alot. That and gender dysphoria. It's mostly the 'identity disturbance' trait of bpd imo. Easily influenced kids who already have identity issues and live in a world obsessed with identity. So one just isn't enough.

No. 998780

>>998764
See this >>995690
In response to a question I had about DID. I really don't doubt everything you describe explains DID and all the gender special shit going on nowadays

No. 998809

>>998508
Dissociation, odd/erratic/inappropriate behavior and memory loss when triggered by stress or anything reminiscent of traumatizing events in one's life? That makes perfect sense, especially for those with extreme PTSD. Not sure why anyone would deny that. It's just one of many ways the brain can malfunction and/or try to protect itself. Most people who've dealt with some form of trauma experience at least one of those symptoms, so it follows that some would end up having to deal with multiple. I don't think that's fake, unless you also want to say schizophrenia, psychosis, fugue states and delusions must all be fake
"Systems" and all the stupid shit we see from TikTok zoomers? No, that's obvious attention whoring

No. 999066

>>998508

Sounds very much possible when you look at actual medical articles. The theory of structural dissociation seems very much plausible. When it comes to the alters…The types of alters a lot of zoomers describe including "fictives" could also be possible but absolutely not in the way that they're described by those TikTok retards. Basically, I do think it very much does exist, but 70% of people who claim to have it are just idiots.

No. 999189

>>998764
it's funny because did actually was thought to be bpd because the symptoms manifested similarly.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2719457/

it is more similar to ptsd though because of structural dissociation in early childhood, maybe not in fakers though as they will just have histrionic and theatrical reactions. however bpd can include dissociation, so in extreme cases it can induce a similar mechanism but won't result in alters forming.
https://casa.org.au/assets/Documents/Dissociation-and-complex-trauma.pdf

No. 999209

>>999189
Anon, BPD IS DID.
DID is just special BPD for people who don't want to take accountability for their actions and made up other "personas" to justify anything odd. BPD is a bad coping mechanism, so the same is DID, don't you ever notice that DID bitches always try to pull the "nice alter" "mean alter" "baby alter" to describe their normal emotions, just boosted by the PTSD they both experience? People should stop trying to armchair with "science" DID people and compare them with BPD and how they act in social situations. Since therapist rarely see these people with their family/partner/friends, ofc they're gonna analyze them from a single point of view, if they were gonna analyze them socially, there would be no difference from one to another. They're the same, heck, BPD people literally have their inner child wounded and they use it as a puppet to get pity points, doesn't seem to much like the "little alters"?
The dissociation can happen in both, the disregulated emotions in both ("alters" vs "big emotions"), ptsd in both, impulsiveness in both (the DID person will blame them on an alter to look clean) and so on. Don't focus on the alters, because they don't exist, a whole person cannot exist, focus on them as emotion and voilà, DID is instant bullshit.

No. 999214

>>999209
BPD is made up shit for drama queens who act like because they choose to do dumb shit, they must be victims of themselves. DID is just next level mental health bullshittery.

No. 999416

>>999209
i see where you're coming from, we often can't scientifically measure psychological phenomena, but i think you shouldn't be equating DID to pretentious teenagers on tiktok. some of them are obviously larping, although they may be convinced they aren't. maybe some of them do have bpd which makes them act that way. there are theoretical models that apply to people who went through severe childhood trauma. if you think ptsd is real, DID is not far much from that with the severe dissociation and amnesia. i doubt most people with the disorder have the capacity to share their shenanigans online so it shouldn't be taken as an example.

No. 999659

>>999214

BPD is a known phenomenon backed up by countless articles. DID though is 90% bs.

No. 999675

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you have been visited by the sage of anti-psychiatry

none of this shit is real

the pills are toxic

all they do is suppress your natural desire for a different and free life

psychiatrists believe in troons so don't believe a single lying thing they say

No. 999679

>>999675
>just go feral in the woods!!!

No. 999688

>>999675
Idk, nonnie, psychiatry makes more sense than psychology. Talk it out? That doesn’t work. We need more sleepy pills for the terribly, mentally unstable so there aren’t anymore weirdos out there.

No. 999690

>>999675
I believe you. Let's live in the woods together.

No. 999717

>>999209

Eh, half of it is, but there is a level of truth to it.

>>999416

This. The theory of structural dissociation is questionable at times but it follows the same logic.

>>999675

You're going to have to try harder if you want a reaction out of anyone

No. 999790

jsyk, terfs in academia are using anti-psychiatry as a new label to be able to criticize troonism, since no one listened when they were basing arguments in feminism.

lo9k…some people are nuts ok…but they put literally every single member of my family on antidepressants kek.

and now my sister has a moustache yay!! therapy works!!

pro-psychiatry = pro-troon.

No. 999870

>>999790
oh fuck, i hate the whole idea that the only way to deal with people’s gender dysphoria is through “gender affirming” therapies or whatever because for suggesting there is other ways to help someone through that is just as bad as “conversion therapy” - thats the position the mental hospital i had the most respect for has taken and my respect has dropped significantly as a result

No. 1000157

>>999870
Transgenderism has the same exact fucking symptoms as BIID, if we treated BIID (Body Integrity Disorder) patients like the trannies, we would see a lot of people being amputees on purpose. But it's not news that doctor chop dick and tits off to secure themselves a patient that will pay them for life for HRT.

No. 1000219

>>1000157
BIID has been basically proven to just be a fetish kek. It mainly affects men, they usually have a bunch of other paraphilias, and the often confess that they jerk off to the idea.

No. 1000228

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>>1000219
Remember that furry who "accidentally" dry iced his hands off?

No. 1000304

>>1000219
And transgenderism is one branch of BIID, look up how it's always "transwomen" shitting up lesbians dating sites or apps.

No. 1000305

>>1000228
This was the best saga ever

No. 1000322

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>>1000228
The absolute best part was all the degenerate furries trying to damage control and convince people that it was all just a conspiracy by 'alt right trolls'. Their story was he'd been pressing his hands against dry ice as an arthritis treatment, and had fallen asleep for six hours, only waking up when his hands were too far gone to be saved (None of the articles screencapped by picrel recommend putting dry ice on your bare skin to treat arthritis, but that should go without saying).

Fetishists always think normal people are too stupid to recognize fetish shit, it's the funniest thing.

further reading: https://dogpatch.press/2019/09/10/hoax-alt-right-trolls/

No. 1000343

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>>1000228
I'm new to this one, had to kek at this. Severely perverted mental illness you say… where did dad get that idea from?

No. 1000350

>>1000343
I wonder if dear old dad ever found out about the bestiality and amputation fetishes.

No. 1000371

>>1000228

No, and I'm not sure if I want to.

No. 1000942

I think that BPD people just really need to grow the fuck up. I dont care about their trauma, if they're making other's life a living Hell, they're no better than their abuser/s and I draw the line at not being self aware. Its not the matter of hating a disease and not the person if the person bases their whole existence about their condition. I also feel that in the majority of cases, the diagnosis just feels like a free pass to anything. Some stigma needs to get back at them.
Overall, I also think that we should depatologize some ~disorders~ and just categorize them as shitty people, so the the ones with narcissistic and victim complex traits would stop pulling the Victim Card to excuse their behaviour.
"me, me, me, me, how poor me" Grow up, either go to therapy and pay someone to listen to your rants or fuck off.

No. 1000950

>>1000228
Goddamn it, spoil that vile shit. Morning ruined

No. 1000999

>>1000942

This. Goes for every disorder. They are disorders for a reason, and that's the problem with current mental health "activism". Yes, we should destigmatise disorders but some of the stigma is there for a good reason and I'm so sick of people excusing blatantly abusive behaviours because "muh xPD"

No. 1001545

>>999870
>>1000157

Isn't there a correlation between troons and being abused as children? Sounds like an untreated coping mechanism to be honest, they really need to get help but no, the field isn't ready for that

No. 1001550

>>1001545
Obviously yes. Either sexual, verbal or emotional abuse, a person with a happy childhood will not play pretend in that way.

No. 1001558

>>1001550
You don't have to have been abused to succumb to porn addition and pursuant paraphilias

No. 1001570

>>1001558
But you have to be abused to find pleasure into roleplaying being a little girl or just a girl in general. Usually, abused people, view themselves as the role the abuser wanted them to have, it's not rare in psych stories to read about literal children masturbating and mimicking learned porny behaviour because they were told that way even if they don't know what does that mean, the brain is weird.

No. 1001571

>>1001570
>But you have to be abused to find pleasure into roleplaying being a little girl or just a girl in general
No you don't lol

No. 1001574

>>999675
I'm sad even farmers fall for it. I keep reading about muh ADHD and muh BPD. Sorry you're struggling and having some issues but it's not a fucking brain disorder.

People won't have empathy for each other unless a diagnosis is slapped on there. Say you're really struggling with concentration or anger and no one gives a fuck. Say you're struggling with (label given by shrink) and suddenly people will have empathy.

No. 1001576

>>1001574
It can be hard for me to read farmers in /snow/ threads laughing at a cows made up mental illness in one breath, and then sincerely talk about how they think they might really have ADHD based on the symptoms they learned of in the cow's thread.

No. 1001577

>>1001574

Not really lmao. Those two things are super overdiagnosed but there's still plenty of logical reasoning behind their existence. Though most of ADHDers and BPDers are just lazy and whiny, respectively.

No. 1001578

>>1001577

Kind of off topic, but isn't there literal brain differences detected with them? I feel like those should be taken into consideration too when diagnosing someone. Not just discussing traits but like the actual brain scan. Though there could be similarities with PTSD idk

No. 1001581

>>1001578
If so, I wonder if the changes detected are something that anyone could induce if they repeated particular behaviors.

No. 1001583

>>1001581

Hmm, not sure about that. It takes a long time to do that and I haven't found any proof on that theory.

>>1001578

Yes, but this isn't psychiatry anymore, which was the start of this topic. That's neurology. The psychiatry field would be much better if they incorporated just a bit of neurology in…but oh well.

No. 1001585

>>1001578
>isn't there literal brain differences detected with them
If so, what's the significance?

No. 1001586

>>1001585

Detected abnormalities in parts of the brain do have effects on involuntary or natural behaviour, so just saying that a lot of disorders may be overdiagnosed but are not fake as a lot of farmers are saying. Psychiatry is a shitshow but there is also some decent prolonged research in it.

>>1001581

Doubt that. Such changes are usually from involuntary behaviours, and in this case if someone were to repeat them to try and induce it, it wouldn't work unless it was prolonged for decades or something.

>>1001577

I got diagnosed with ADHD a few months ago but I stay the fuck away from other ADHDers because of this. Anyone who has a mental disorder, it's not their fault for being born with or developing it, but it's still their responsibility. They're all so fucking lazy and blame their shitty friendship and relationship skills, lack of effort and purposely forgetting shit on their ADHD. Like I know there's problems with concentration and memory, but is it really so hard to try a little harder, refresh your mind using basic relaxation techniques and just do your fucking job?

No. 1001590

>>1001586

This. Fellow adhder, same. 90% of the symptoms they say are ADHD are just literal depression and anxiety, but sadly zoomers don't give a shit about those because they're too mainstream so gotta blame it on ADHD for the attention hehe XD lol funnies! Fucking hate those retards. Stop wallowing in your problems and actually work on yourself, it's better than seeking validation from children online.

No. 1001591

>>1001571
You will never be a woman
>>1001574
Most cluster B people is just being whiny and needy but they're also abusive as fuck and that's why therapy exist, to contain them, more or less

No. 1001593

>>1001591
Do you assume that everyone who can see that you're talking out of your ass is a male?

No. 1001596

>>932826
Holy shit I read this and damn, the "teehee I took a shower after one month!!" humour is just …why? Why would you share that? Why would you share that you're gross as fuck? I get that depression can make it difficult for cleaning, both personal and house but it's not something you should get pitied for.
Anyway, my personal opinion is on bipolar, they're unreliable, untrustable and overall volatile, you can't do anything with them because you don't know when the next episode is gonna happend and they will fuck with everyone's plans and moods.

No. 1001597

>>1001591

How does that have anything to do with the post you replied to?

No. 1001602

>>1001596

I'm just concerned if they have any infections honestly. Depression is shit but why do zoomers romanticise not cleaning and even having fetishes for it? Hope they all get diseased.

Looking at some of the recent responses, I wouldn't say ADHD and BPD are completely fake. Though one theory I have is that bad parenting can cause ADHD-like symptoms and I'm sick of people saying it doesn't. Also, slapping on that label on a child makes them start to believe wholeheartedly in it and then act more and more like what they're expected to be.

No. 1001605

>>1001570
How naive are you? These men sexualise little girls because nothing is off limits to their revolting porn addled brains. They get off even more by making everyone else play along with it and deriving victimhood from it

No. 1001773

Can't deal with any mental disorders really. After all, they are disorders, they're not healthy to be around. Hope they get help and I don't hate them since it's not their fault for developing those traits but it's still their responsibility.

No. 1001805

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>>1001586
>>1001590
>>1001577

Basically this take I found that sums shit up. It's not so hard to take responsibility for your actions, you fucking children.

No. 1001806

>>1001805

sorry for the samefag but it's sad that this has to be a hot take honestly.

No. 1001809

>>1001806

It is but what do you expect lmao from a generation with zero rationality

No. 1001815

>this thread
/ot/istic people are the best psychologists in the world and we specialize in BPD.

No. 1001837

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ADHD. This is a scrote I know.
>diagnosed as a child
>graduated with a film studies degree by doing all nighters.
>afterwards gets an office job, gets moved to a cushy department due to being in the right place at the right time.
>this position was 1/4-1/2 as stressful as the position he started with along with other perks. The biggest drawback was basically the team he worked for being small so if someone had a day off, the rest of the team would have to pull the weight. After the company realized the implications of that, they were able to outsource the work to a larger team which reduced the workload of ADHD scrote's team to practically nil.
>eventually the company gets rid of that department and ADHD scrote has to go back to the department he started with but there is a big delay due to some oversights but he gets paid to sit on his ass all day since it isn't his fault.
>company sorts shit out and they give him a refresher for his old role, he resigns before he is actually supposed to do work to claim unemployment due to government increasing the amount thanks to COVID.
>plays video games the whole time while earning over half of what he earned while employed. Doesn't really look for jobs or try to improve himself despite all of the downtime. Only begins looking for a job when the unemployment increase is being tapered off. Doesn't save money either, I have no fucking clue what he spent all of his money on during this time apart from car expenses, groceries, rent + bills (it's not that much since he lives with his parents) and Grubhub…
>has not had a job since then. government reintroduces activities for people on unemployment to complete while claiming benefits. his parents are not pleased with him sitting on his ass playing video games for 80% of the day so he enrolls in a course that is apart of a COVID initiative to get people trained to rejoin the workforce.
>unable to complete that. muh ADHD
>I encourage him to use the resources that his school offers for learning disabilities (i.e. things that every school has)
>didntdoitmuhadhdpart2.txt
>"well it's not going to go away if you don't do anything for it. Ask your doctor or psychologist" (his psych is free btw he has no excuse for being broke all the time, he's probably spending money on legos or something retarded)
>gets appropriate referral to get evaluated but doesn't call the clinic until he mentions this to me. I tell him to write it down he says it doesn't work. The next day in the morning I tell him to and he does it. I ask him if he can do phone reminders he says they don't work because "muh brain"
THIS CAN'T BE A VALID EXCUSE, RIGHT? i've tried to help this scrote (yes I know it's a waste of my time but it's infuriating) but it seems like the only way he'll do something is if someone tells him to do it. He's in his mid 20s, this is so frustrating and pathetic. He was not this bad when I first met him and was functional but I suspect he's way more depressed due to how the last two years have gone but the rest of the world has had a shit last shit two years too. Not everyone has the privilege to be able to play video games all day and scroll through ADHD subreddits all day. This scrote actually does have some good traits and is funny and creative but STOP FEELING SORRY FOR YOURSELF.

TL;DR lucky ADHD scrote chooses to become unemployed because of boost to benefits during COVID. Benefits have been slashed, he barely does anything to get a job and now he plays video games all day, doomscrolls /r/antiwork and /r/adhd.

fuck work but don't tell me fuck work when you've had it easy your entire life and simply expect everything to fall into place.

No. 1001838

>>1001815
Why it's always BPD bitches getting butthurt about BPD in these threads, lol cope and call your fp to cry about it

No. 1001885

>>1001590
>>1001586
>is it really so hard to try a little harder, refresh your mind using basic relaxation techniques and just do your fucking job?
>90% of the symptoms they say are ADHD are just literal depression and anxiety

Incredible dumb comments that show why you should never take medical advice from an imageboard. I have ADHD and have never had depression/anxiety in my life. Relaxation techniques are not going to fix a terrible short term memory that prevents you from doing your job.

Saying "just try harder" is the equivalent of "just think yourself better". ADHD isn't an excuse to be a terrible person but it does mean that you will likely self sabotage at every opportunity, no matter how much you try otherwise. A lot of ADHD people will also be on the spectrum which will impact things too.

No. 1001893

>>1001885
>Incredible dumb comments that show why you should never take medical advice from an imageboard.
This, people in this thread tend to either think that literally anything that can be wrong with a person is actually BPD, or that every disorder (and psychiatry as a whole) is fake
At this point, it's just a containment thread for disordered people pretending not to be. I'm sure some of the more adamant posters were diagnosed with BPD themselves and have been mad ever since
Replies to your post will most likely be people attacking you and getting super mad

No. 1001896

>>1001837
Thats not ADHD thats being lazy as fuck lol

No. 1001897

>>1001885
Thank you for saying that.
>Relaxation techniques are not going to fix a terrible short term memory that prevents you from doing your job.
For 8 years, I was in a constant risk of repeating a year because of that (always fucked up math and had my normally loving dad treat me abusively because of it). Things have gotten even worse with time. I thought that I have a brain cancer or something and almost got an expensive scan. Nobody, not even my psychiatrist, suggested ADHD. It took me years of hell to discover wtf is wrong with me (and I had to do it alone, then see a psychiatrist to test my theory). I still feel like a giant fuck up, and tbh I am one (not medicated yet due to other health concerns).

No. 1001903

>>1001897
Same, I thought I was getting early Alzheimer's. I actually did repeat a year despite being pretty bright. It wasn't that I couldn't understand things, I just could not remember it. Anything open book or a "special interest" and I would be top of the class.


>>1001893
Exactly. Most ADHD symptoms will affect yourself more than others. At worst you will seem like you don't care about things enough to remember them or pay attention. If you have the hyperactive type you will probably irritate people. It's not like BPD where you have huge mood swings. There's no way to confuse them. I've had a lot of bad relationships but it's more to do with me missing social cues or being taken advantage of.

No. 1001906

>>1001896
ADHD can make it difficult to get started with things which might seem like laziness. Hard to tell about that guy's situation though.

No. 1001943

I'm friends with a woman who was diagnosed with BPD as a teenager and did all of the typical crazy BPD shit but seemed to grow out of it. When talking about it, she said that around age 25 she realized that being raised by drunk assholes taught her to behave like a drunk asshole from an early age. Idk made sense to me.

No. 1001952

>>1001943
it makes a lot of sense. i think a lot of BPD people who come from unstable and harmful families just learn to take on their behavior or are trying to cope and become sane while around people who are very unhealthy, and so they lose their shit. when given space and time to reflect fully away from all of it, i think many are allowed to grow into themselves and be healthy

No. 1001956

>>1001943
It's sometimes called "fleas". CPTSD is sometimes mistaken as BPD in women so likely she was acting out because of trauma from an unstable childhood too.

I hate how threads like this hate on BPD and other mental illnesses. I know these people are not easy to be around around but it's a mental illness and beyond their control. The person is not doing it deliberately. It's not an excuse for them to be an awful person constantly and not go to therapy etc but spewing hate about them just comes across as ignorant as fuck. Don't be around these people if you don't want to, it's best for everyone that way.

No. 1001960

>>1001956
>it's a mental illness and beyond their control. The person is not doing it deliberately.
Mental illness explains the impulses and reasoning, but the suffer still retains freedom of choice. People can choose to examine the impact of their actions and grow, or not. It's unfair some people are disadvantaged but that doesn't make them any less accountable for their choices. It sucks and it's a hard pill to swallow, but you don't get anywhere in recovery without accepting that basic truth
>It's not an excuse for them to be an awful person constantly and not go to therapy etc
I think the people getting bitched about in this thread do exactly this. Or, they do the classic bpd thing and use their therapy sessions as a platform for their "poor me" performance. Again, I sympathize with people who have this problem but their pity seeking is a trait that cripples their recovery

No. 1001982

>>1001956
When I took a grippy socks vacay a few years back I got diagnosed with BPD, but my psychiatrist suggested it was CPTSD which makes more sense. I'm mentally unstable af but I don't suicide bait or actively try to ruin people when I get irrationally angry over something I pictured in my head. Just push them away.

No. 1002008

>>1001943
I'm related to someone who has it but is currently pretty stable, it was painful to watch when she was in her twenties and even undiagnosed for half of her twenties. Knowing her issues stemmed from childhood abandonment.. and yet there she was acting in a way that guarantees most people will eventually reach their limit and walk out of her life too.
>Can you believe he just walked out on me?
Yes, you were acting batshit and relying too heavily on a man to fix a void he'll never even make a dent in. Treating every new man like he's the only reason you wake up in the morning. That's a lot of pressure.

She burnt alot of bridges before she ever heard of bpd. The shitshow turned around once she knew what she was dealing with. Didn't happen overnight but from 30 onwards she's certainly been doing alright. I've other relatives who went down the drink/drugs/prison route after their messed up childhoods.. and it's weird how much forgiveness was extended to male addicts in the family that did way worse than she ever did. As much as I hate seeing bpders actively giving in to their crazy impulses or playing the pity game.. I can see how she's a product of the family she's in. Her addict brothers are welcomed back while she's still frozen out. Other bpders would have whole meltdown in that position. That's the same shit that damaged her in the first place.

No. 1002063

>>1001838
How do you even know I have bpd? Why am I asking? We are good psychologists after all.

No. 1002205

>>1002063
Because only bippies get mad at some anonymous messages on the internet instead of ignoring it, as they all do with everything in their life

No. 1002229

>>1002205
So why haven’t you ignored me?

No. 1002254

>>1002229
Nayrt but uh probably because you asked a question? Ffs…

No. 1002328

>>1001982
>I'm mentally unstable af but I don't suicide bait or actively try to ruin people when I get irrationally angry over something I pictured in my head. Just push them away.

I'm not a psych or expert on any of this, but could this be considered quiet BPD? https://www.healthline.com/health/quiet-bpd

No. 1002336

>>1002254
Lolwut?
>>1001815
Where?
The irony.

No. 1002343

Isn’t it by itself quite mentally ill to make a whole thread about this and actually vent about random labels? This way of thinking is actually precisely that whole black-white symptom that belongs to a certain personality disorder everyone most definitely has here but despises…
Anyways I hate retards which sums up all of you and me included.

No. 1002354

>>1001885

ADHD isn't real

No. 1002424

>>1002354
wew lad

No. 1002425

>>1002354

try harder retard

No. 1002429

>>1002425
Nayrt but if you have adhd you’re a retard
t. I have adhd

No. 1002435

>>1002328

Maybe. I read through it and it seems uncomfortably accurate.

No. 1002443

>>1002424
>>1002425
i'm not that nonner but I do think adult ADHD is bullshit in many cases, you breezed through school and university without a touch of learning/behavioral problems and now that you're 30 and having to do monotonous and time consuming job 8 hours a day you need a speed prescrition to cure your special brain from looking at the phone? yeah nah

No. 1002485

>>999209
>don't you ever notice that DID bitches always try to pull the "nice alter" "mean alter" "baby alter" to describe their normal emotions, just boosted by the PTSD they both experience?
This, the one person I know who claims DID is diagnosed with raging BPD, and from the outside it's super apparent that her "alters" are half just her emotional states. The other half seem to be the personas she puts on when mirroring different groups of people, i.e. "here's the alter for when I'm hanging out with the alt goths, and here's one for the woowoo crunchy hippie types, and here's a normal-acting one for when I'm at work."

No. 1002641

>>1002443
Spot on. Having an opinion on lolcow that doesn’t confirm to the masses either makes you a male baiter or a tranny baiter.

I have adult adhd and I still have a toooon of learning problems because of being untreated, I’m working on them for 2 months, and things are going better for me. I quit the speed medication and antidepressants because they were driving me crazy. Adhd is essentially being retarded beyond not being able to focus and when people know that’s when they stop claiming ADD or whatever. I know when I’m no longer retarded I’ll disown my diagnosis.

No. 1002649

Feels good to be neurotypical with 0 mental illnesses. Or should I just say sane ? The amount of cope in this thread is hilarious.

No. 1002652

>>1002649
Do you also tapdance around people in wheelchairs

No. 1002698

>>1002649

Everyone's coping one way or another. If you're on this thread you're most likely in denial lmao.

No. 1002700

>>1002652
She literally does probably in one way or another. This entire thread is so stupid it hurts. It’s scrote mentality. We’re the better gender we shouldn’t be this stupid.

No. 1002718

>>1002649

Anyone who says that is clearly not neurotypical with 0 mental illnesses. Also nobody cares you're a normie.

No. 1002750

My anxiety issues or whatever they're best described as (pursuing diagnoses and treatment in general has been difficult for me) run my life and it's depressing. It feels so hard to understand myself enough to get better and that it'll be pointless anyways. At least if I numb myself I won't be as aware of how fucked I am.

>>1002649
if you're bragging to the mentally ill about being neurotypical you are a new level of pathetic.

No. 1002769

>>1002649
I am sorry for anyone near your stupid ass.

No. 1002862

>>1002649
Based. I can't stand people with any sort of diagnosed mental illness they make it their entire personality. Worst are the ones that try to diagnose YOU. Like, don't put your evil shit onto me just because you're fucked in the head and want some company

No. 1003134

>>1002336
"Lolwut?"
go play trick mind games elsewhere, bippie.
>>1002649
This is thread for people affected by other's mental illness, not their own. Read the op.

No. 1003272

>>1001602
>one theory I have is that bad parenting can cause ADHD-like symptoms

True. Most of the ADHD people I know of come from less fortunate families and didn't have the best upbringings. I'm reading about this woman who got diagnosed as a teen, she then made ADHD her entire personality. She always struck me as someone who had an unfortunate background, and turns out she does. Spent her entire childhood moving between foster homes and neglectful parents - yet the filthy industry had the nerve to diagnose this poor traumatized child with ''ADHD'' at 13. A teen boy I know literally got diagnosed and fed meth pills just because he hated school and thought class was boring.

My brother could get diagnosed with ADHD right now, but it all comes from his childhood. Lack of boundaries and routine leading to becoming a messy adult with no control over everyday tasks and planning. Uneducated depressed parents leading to an unmotivated, impulsive son.

No. 1003279

>>1002862

Nobody cares retard.

No. 1003300

>>1002649
Textbook Narcissism KEK

No. 1003307

>>1002862

This is literally a mental illness thread also you're contradicting the post you replied to. Nobody cares.

No. 1003313

>>1001602
not to start shit, but adhd has a link to prenatal smoking, so of course people w adhd tend to come from shit parents. people dont just "get" adhd, its there at the start and made worse through bad parenting, but smoking is the cause, not the parenting style.

No. 1003421

>>1003313

Interesting. Do you have any sources to explain the chemicals behind this?

No. 1003462

I can't stand people with autism. Nothing you say will get through to them, all you can do is be quiet and not interrupt them as they rant about petty/unimportant shit and let them assume you agree, because who could possibly argue with their 100% factual perfect robot brains? They see themselves as inhuman gods and yet are completely incapable of basic fucking empathy, and are the most emotionally unintelligent people I've ever met. They think not openly acknowledging their emotions (repressing them until they have meltdowns that are always everyone else's fault) means they're smart when really it just makes them insufferable toddlers with an incurable case of verbal diarrhea. The most immature, self absorbed, uncompromising, egotistical people I've ever met, and they have the audacity to whine on the internet about how people don't try and understand them. We've been trying FOR YEARS to understand and placate you and nothing works. You just want us to be silent dolls who feed and clean up after you and nod our heads to your unbridled brilliance. How about you try understanding someone else for once in your entire fucking life you selfish piece of shit. And you're not even that smart kek, you just can't handle it when we correct you so we drop it because it's not worth the 2 hour sperg out.

No. 1004289

>>1003462
Damn same, father and 1 of my sisters are both like this. People have no idea how strong autism can be.

No. 1004301

>>1003462
imo, autistic children are difficult to raise. it involves confloct, punishment, correction, exposure to things that make them scream, and hammering lessons home over and over again until they learn how to behave around other people

What you described is basically a toddler that never grew up. This is because many parents dont have the time or energy to raise an autistic child properly, and would rather give in and indulge them and defend them to avoud conflict. This is understandable because its exhausting, especially when you are working & have other kids too.

Is it "fair"? No of course not. But people with autism aren't doomed to be like you desceibe from birth. Funnily, attempts to "understand" and let them off easier only lead to them being more spoiled and nuts as you said. Autists are some of the few people for whom "spare the rod, spoil the chuld" is quite true, although not literally with rods, but in the sense of constant correction when their behavior is unacceptable.

It sounds like your family members have learned that they can exhaust & browbeat you into agreeing with them by having a spergout. Thats just like spoiled 3 year olds who learn that having a tantrum at Target WILL get them their toy.

If you want to change this, you need to take a situation where you are in the right and have proof, and stick to your guns until they run out of steam. It will take hours. It may take days. The older they are the more set in their ways they will be. They are so used to getting total supplicatuon that they'll go totally ballistic.

If you have family members that will try to get you to stop/give in for the autist's sake, or just to end the fighting, you will have to stand your ground to them also. You'll have to harden your heart and just be absolutely firm for as long as it takes. You have to refuse to let it go and rub their nose in it like a dog.

Screaming and sperging is the language theyve learned to speak - the only thing you can do is speak it back to them until they understand it's not ok.

No. 1004312

>>1003272
>Lack of boundaries and routine leading to becoming a messy adult with no control over everyday tasks and planning. Uneducated depressed parents leading to an unmotivated, impulsive son.
fuck, this could be me. sorry for blogpost, but maybe this gives some hope for others… my parents were always busy (mom was still in education/job training, dad had a busy job) so i was always in front of the tv. i played outside a lot but got severely bullied when i switched schools at age 10, so i stayed inside all day and turned to the internet and food for comfort. fast forward to me being terminally online most of my life until i was 29. i managed to get my shit together a little, went back to high school, got a degree and got into grad school. the lockdown seriously made me think i have adhd because i just couldn't focus on anything and had regular breakdowns because my brain wouldn't work. i cried sitting at my desk because motivating myself to shower was so difficult. i did shower, it just took me hours to motivate myself, so i ended up giving myself pep talks for 6 hours until i finally showered at 6 am. then this year i started reading again and ended up reading over 70 books within the span of 9 months. not all of them are high brow and super challenging, of course, since i read for my own enjoyment and not to impress anyone. i started keeping a diary to cure myself of constantly oversharing on social media. eventually i quit social media (the farm is my only outlet kek) and left my terminally online depressed/bpd/adhd friends behind. i suddenly got really into movies and loved going to the movie theater. then i started watching a tv show and i managed to watch entire seasons without getting distracted all the time. maybe the show is just really fucking good, who knows, but maybe i cured myself of the brainrot that is commonly associated with adhd. my report cards from elementary school scream adhd, i am very hyperactive (i pace around A Lot to think, i can barely sit still) and have bad impulse control, especially around food and shopping. but i think that might be associated with me not having a proper schedule due to grad school not being very class heavy. when i went back to high school i had a strict schedule and managed to control my food intake and my spending habits very easily. i think leaving behind social media and trying to avoid shit like youtube shorts or tiktoks or instagram was the best decision i ever made. maybe i had to train my brain into accepting less dopamine from constant new input/gratification, who knows. but i like the changes i experienced so far.

i went to a therapist that gave me a tentative adhd diagnosis, so nothing official, but at this point i think i don't have bad brain disease. i just need stricter schedules in my life, no social media, and more physical activity to undo the damage of the past 25 years.

No. 1004348


No. 1004375

>>1003462
>>1004312
Sorry to break it to you but you both sound like you're definitely on the autism spectrum and probably shouldn't be trusted around other autists unsupervised.

No. 1004383

>>1004312
I think you have a good handle on your own metaxngnition and how to control your impulses. I would hire you because i think youre based and we're much alike. Its incredibly hard to take control of your own schedule and habits and youre actually better at this than 99% of normies nonna. Keep it rockin

>>1004375
Fuck 9ff and take your pseudopsychiatry elsewhere you piece of shit. You're jealpus of people with ability & talent. The struggle of the true talented augost autist is to direct their infinite energy in a productive direction.

You, the normie piece of shit who jever did anything original in ypur life, are worth less than dirt. Go work at your middle class job, obey your boss, take your antidepressants and die mildly happy. Your life doesnt matter.

No. 1004425

>>1003462
Ngl you ironically sound a little spergy yourself kek

No. 1004439

>>1004425
nta but fuck you. fuck off you obviously have no idea what its like to be around someone who isnt a fat docile cow

No. 1004441

>>1004439
Reel in the tard rage, do your breathing exercise, don't punch the wall

No. 1004444

>>1004441
You're the one coming at people and calling them autists, which is very fucking offensive, when theyre just venting about their insane family. Whats your fucking problem dipshit?

No. 1004454

>>1004439
>>1004444
>Lack of empathy
>immaturity
>verbal diarrhea

You are what you hate most, kek.

No. 1004481

is there a mental disorder for being really fucking aware of yourself, hating yourself and fucking cringing every time you speak????

No. 1004483

>>1004481

Generalized anxiety disorder?

No. 1004485

>>1003462

Ngl what you're describing is more of an autistic child that was coddled too much when they were younger. Also you sure you ain't on the spectrum yourself too nonnie

>>1004444

>offensive


Do you know where you are, retard?

No. 1004490

>>1004454
I'm supposed to be empathetic with someone randomly calling an anon autistic for venting about their family? fuck off. if you could read you would know im not the original poster there. but apparently you just like to sling brainless shit.

>>1004485
I hope i did offend you, worthless sack of shit. Insect of a person

No. 1004494

>>1004490

They did that because a lot of people who vent in that way are on the spectrum.

Also nayrt but it's not really offensive?

No. 1004501

>>1004490
Haha autist

No. 1004532

>>1004494
>>1004501
I hope my sperging has given you a brief taste of what living with an aitist would be like. Imagine that but in your face all the fucking day long. That's what OP is living with.

Nona was venting, and you're trying to come at her with an internet diagnosis. Stop eating your own toe cheese for a minute and lay the fuck off

No. 1004666

>>1003134
I retract my view, I don’t mind hating on mental disorders anymore, because one thing I can’t stand is paranoid personality disorder (if that exist). I don’t even know what BPD was until I read it from legbeards like you on here. It just doesn’t make any sense to try to change your views, you’ll forever be a sperg that thinks they’re less mentally ill than others just because you hate on a disorder. Get help.

No. 1004678

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>>1004532
Bless this post

No. 1004936

>>1004666
Leave, scrote

No. 1010556

Never met anyone with munchausen but if I suspected they did I'd run away as fast as I can and never look back. That whole thing really scares me.

No. 1010712

Troonery. They say it's "not a mental illness" and then bring up truscum/transmed whatever term they can come up with discourse, but gender dysphoria is literally a mental illness in the DSM. Also psychiatrists will never acknowledge the fact that gender dysphoria CAN be caused by PTSD and abuse and instead shoot patients up on HRT.

No. 1010804

>>1010712
>but gender dysphoria is literally a mental illness in the DSM
Pretty sure they removed it and that’s why troons are running rampant

No. 1010844

>>1010804
I think it's still in the DSM, but got moved to non-dangerous ones like depression vs ana-chan (which is self-mutilation, totally different from troonery kek). If it's not in the DSM, they can't get the government to pay for medical transition in a lot of places, and would have to fit their own bill (depends on the place obviously).

No. 1012591

>>1010712

This. Kinda blogpost but I've been through gender dysphoria due to PTSD making me feel like I have no identity and racism in childhood making me feel like not a real female in society. I didn't seek help because I knew they'd just shoot me up on hormones and say I needed to transition. Fucked up.

No. 1012607

>>1012591
I've had very similar experiences to you and had no idea it could be caused by that. I'm really glad I didn't go through with it because it takes just one session for a therapist to give the OK for HRT. Fucked up.

No. 1012609

>>1010712
I got diagnosed with GID 8 years ago, I tried hormones but stopped. The minor changes I got from several months on hormones did plenty for me. I feel grand since. Autists and csa victims often will qualify as having dysphoria. It'd be nice if people could deal with those feelings while staying aware that acting on them with transition isn't an automatic next step.

No. 1012612

>>1010804
its because its embraced so much in society and to say anything against it makes you "transphobic" or whatever phobic. mental hospitals are fully embracing the gender affirming approach too, so that definitely doesnt help if someone is struggling with something underneath all that and affirming may confuse someone more if they happen to move too quickly anfd go on hormones, etc. it may be even more damaging. this cant be compared to being gay or whatever, its mental illness

No. 1012619

>>1012612
Getting ot but your post reminded me. A few months ago I got talking to a guy and when I looked him up online afterwards he had posted about HOCD awareness. I googled it..
>Homosexual Obsessive Compulsive Disorder (HOCD) is marked by excessive fear of becoming or being homosexual. The subjects often experience intrusive, unwanted mental images of homosexual behaviour. The excessive uncontrolled thoughts/doubts are very distressing and lead to compulsions in form of checking.

No. 1012629

>>1012619
funny you mention that lmao, i actually dealt with this type of OCD for about a year and a half some years ago and it was hell. weird because looking back, its unbelievable my mind reached such a state. im straight but i was really afraid for some reason that i was a lesbian and lying to myself etc. sounds funny, but it was hell

No. 1012650

>>1012629
This guy spent a short stint in prison so I remember wondering if prison culture played some role in his mind going there. Much as I like to bitch about pornsickness and men often deserving their fucked up heads from it.. I get how with ocd any subject can become the cause of legit intrusive thoughts. People talk about germs and counting and rarely this stuff. It goes into strange territory sometimes.

No. 1012664

>>1012650
yeah its pretty annoying. i had them related to romantic relationships and the lesbian thing. it was really tough to exaplain and i think if you see the wrong person, you could get even more fucked up based on an "affirming" approach. i used to obsessively google and watch videos about it and going in public became really hard in the case of HOCD, every time i saw a girl my thoughts went crazy. once i went on meds that actually really helped, but therapy and being forced into a routine helped as well. sorry fro being ot, but it is nice to hear someone take this seriously, whenever i spoke about it in the past i often was treated like i was nuts (i was techinically) or that i was denying my true self or something else weird

No. 1013613

>>1012609

This. Many autists and abuse victims often feel out-of-touch with themselves, and in society, and they definitely do not fit the typical expectation of a neurotypical person of their gender. I'm possibly an autist and it's happened to me before, thank god I recovered from that.

No. 1013623

Being a normie has to be some form of mental illness right? Anyways, I hate normies yet I’m slightly envious of their sometimes oblivious and ignorant nature. I hate the way they clog up grocery stores, treat their children, hate the way they redtext and ban anons, hate them all of my homegirls hate them

No. 1013650

I used to not be able to stand schizos but now i feel like i might have just been projecting or something because i've suspected i have OCD for a while (comorbid with my ADHD) and there is weirdly a lot of overlap between the kind of OCD i might have and some schizo disorders. mainly symptoms like ones described here >>935356 like constantly getting specific health anxiety paranoia, feeling like people will kill me in my sleep, a lot of absurd "magical OCD" superstition/ paranormal based fears, seeing numbers everywhere, thinking every coincidence has meaning or was fated. like i can be really gullible to my own delusions. also really really bad ruminating/ borderline living in the past/ maladaptive daydreaming like other anons in here have dscribed. i used to think i was just either immature or like a "special" clairvoyant fated to perceive everything other people don't notice, but getting diagnosed ADHD super late in life led me to analyze my thinking patterns more closely and i just recently discovered that OCD is not even what I had thought it was (like the stereotype of it). but reading all these schizotypal/ schizophrenic posts here and elsewhere had me second-guessing and worried for a bit

the only like big main difference is that i'm extremely self-aware of the fact that the majority of my fears are fictional and unrealistic, but the nature of my brain to obsess and ruminate and spam me with intrusive thoughts is enough that i still get worked up and scared over dumb imaginary retarded shit, even while actively knowing it is retarded. also that it is an off and on type of problem, like it'll be really hard to control some days and other days i am either at peace or have coping mechanisms that work somewhat. whereas the obnoxious raging ADHD problems are constant and more prominent (i.e. me even typing out this blog in the first place when i have irl tasks to do) which kinda reassures me that the OCD is probably mild, is not underlying schizo and is probably something i could eradicate with like, dedicated CBT and better habits. also the fact that my bio parents had ADHD and OCD respectively and no one in my family is schizo to my knowledge. plus i literally only have the kind i described like i'm not the neat freak or germaphobe type

anyway sorry @ schizos i think i empathize a lot more now lol. i will redirect that annoyance/ hatred to munchie DID larpers and raging narcs

No. 1013652

>>1013623
I fully agree with you and catch myself getting borderline cringe normal people scare me t-shirt about it sometimes, i feel like everyone has the capacity to be "mentally ill" or at least severely troubled by their own existence/ environment but the really blatant bland "normies" are either very simple and kinda stupid, or too ignorant to be self-realized. it feels to elitist to talk like this but i swear to god you can't be self-aware and mentally sane at the same time.

the only normies i enjoy are like himbos/ bimbos of the milder, more kind-hearted variety. like golden retriever people that don't cross the line into being annoyingly happy, if that makes sense

No. 1013881

>>1013652
I had a coworker who fit the bland normie definition to a tee and I swear she was some kind of psychopath. Nobody is that "cheery" and pretends to be devoid of problems without hiding some kind of horrible secret.

I've never hated anyone I worked with more than her and I think she ended up leaving because people slowly lifted the curtain on her falsehood. I learnt as expected her life wasn't normal upon her quitting, but damn the fact that she never showed a scrap of emotion that exceeded saccharine happiness, her boorish interests and lack of irony, depth, and humor and made me want to knife her

No. 1013894

>>1013881
Fuck her for having a good attitude at work and not letting co-workers know the private details of her life, right?

I'm nice and bland and cheery at work because I don't want to get involved in drama and office politics, and coworkers aren't important enough to get close and personal with by default.

No. 1013899

>>1013894
Seriously, kek. I always put on a good face at work and even in college because I'm just there to do what I gotta do and leave and someone out here wanna knife me because I stay in my own business and am very friendly with everyone.

No. 1013906

>>1013881
You must be really stupid to think people will pour their heart out to you in a workplace environment. Her private life is none of your business, workplaces aren't schools and you're not friends.

No. 1014029

>>1013881
probably an aspie doing her best at masking. this means you are in fact the asshole.

No. 1014130

>>1013881
kek you can be butthurt all you want but i wont be your work friend. what'd i do over the weekend? oh you know, not much. what do i do for fun? oh you know, not a lot.

i am evasive and do my best to appear bland and passably polite. if people hate me for it, idk, that's kind of funny. you feel so entitled to my attention and information about me that you're pissed you think there isnt any depth? you want gossip so bad you're mad someone gives you a brick wall? get a life

No. 1014134

>>1013881
Your coworkers don’t exist to entertain you anon, I hate drama at the workplace

No. 1014145

>>1013881
Definitely a female aspie, I rather hang around female autists than male autists and I’m serious that being a man is already a serious disability but having a disorder that prevents you from empathizing with people and acknowledging context clues? Besides normies I genuinely fucking hate male autists

No. 1014592

>>1013881
yeah maybe i didn't read this correctly but uh, this wasn't what i meant by that at all? your coworker sounds like lots of decent people I know who feel the pressure or need to "mask" or just can't be themselves at work because it's, yknow, work. a joyless necessity. almost everyone has to put a happy perfect face on at work especially if the job is customer service related, I used to work at a certain infamous theme park where if you weren't an absolute weenie to every single guest at all times you weren't being "in character" and it reflected poorly. albiet in break rooms we would all bitch about work and life and be normal, but that's because i liked my coworkers outside of work and had the time and energy to be real with them. some people detach themselves from their shitty work environments for their own well-being and that's fine, it doesn't mean their real lives are cheery and perfect too

or maybe i'm wrong and she was truly an evil normie psycho, w/e

No. 1015975

>>1013881
It's the workplace, are you retarded? Why does she owe you telling you about her life and problems? It's not like you guys met through a mutual interest, it's literally a job. At least she was cheery and kind to you rather than being an asshole.

No. 1016497

Schizoids deserve no love

No. 1017421

>>1016497

Nobody deserves love tbh

No. 1017431

>>1016497
i have schizoid personality disorder… do you even know what the word schizoid means or do you think it means generic "insane person" or schizophrenic like most dumbasses on this website? i doubt you have actually interacted with many people with szpd, a majority are recluses with no friends and rarely go out in public, and most are very calm people that just dont want anyone bothering them
most schizoids dont even have a desire for any kind of relationships or friendships anyways ironically enough so your statement just sounds very weird to me like someone who doesn't know what the fuck they are talking about


mental disorders i just can't deal with are people who use the word schizoid incorrectly. it's definitely a mental illness of some kind because every person ive seen who blurts that word constantly like an idiot is definitely insane themselves.

No. 1017445

this thread is absolutely retarded because mental illness =/= a personality or what kind of person you are. the only people who believe this stuff are either overly impressionable and only speak to a few people, or are terminally online

No. 1017459

>>1017431
Uh no. I dated a schizoid and paid for it dearly. And like any disorder, it affects everyone differently. Some schizoids still have relationships but they're very controlled, not sure about you. I am aware of the difference.
Normies who don't know the difference isn't a mental disorder in of itself but nice projecting

No. 1017465

OCPD. They're impossible to loosen up without overanalysing and criticising everything you do in this really cold bitchy manner. OCD is fine, I get their compulsions sometimes but OCPD can fuck off.

No. 1017493

>>1017459
ive been in a relationship with another schizoid for over 6 years now everything is perfectly fine, probably better than most normies relationships. ive never spoken to any other male schizoids other than him but ive met plenty of schizoid women online and they are usually fine. its probably just because the y chromosome disease male schizoids are probably worse acting, but i still believe they are likely not as bad as every other personality disorders though (this assuming they don't have any other mental illnesses other than general anxiety/depression). i cant really imagine why anyone would have a specific dislike for people with szpd, its not like it's chaotic like borderlines. oh wow, i have no desire to be friendly with you and rarely leave my house, boohoo. how does that even affect anyone? i mean if someone wants to spend their time seething about the existence of people with schizoid.. that just sounds a little pathetic.
although i cant really understand why someone with schizoid would want to date a normal person because it sounds exhausting and would probably just make them feel worse.

also you know damn well no normie is on lolcow.farm fighting and calling people schizoids without knowing the meaning of the word. only mentally ill people do that. ive never even seen a normie say the word schizoid in my life outside of psychology.

No. 1017541

Severe depression isn't like it's portrayed. If you want an image of severe depression just imagine a middle aged guy yelling at you every morning over mundane bullshit and then sulking when you tell him to fuck off.

No. 1017641

>>1017541

I can't stand being around most depressed people.

They drag you down in their problems. I'm not saying it's their fault at all, and I hope they get the help and recovery they need, but I just can't be around them. They often have a tendency to be snarky and unhealthy ones will ALWAYS bring others down to feel better.

No. 1017653

>>1017641
I've made a huge effort all my life to not do this despite what I'm going through. I want to be the person who makes everyone laugh and smile, I want to be the person who listens when people have problems of their own and need to vent. I had a bad year in 2019 and dumped a lot of sad negative stuff on my friends and I still feel guilty about it. What are they supposed to do about it? I mean all I want is for someone to truly understand the pain and desperation I'm feeling, and how badly I need them, but I do it all wrong. They don't owe me that anyway. No one does. I kind of accept that I'm alone in this and always will be. I'm going to keep in smiling for everyone else, because I have nothing left for myself.

No. 1017665

Honestly, none of them.
I exclusively surround myself with people who have got their shit together at least on a basic level.
People you surround yourself with have too much of an effect on your life, and that life is too short and full of obstacles. I'm looking to go through it at my own pace, with nobody dragging me either back or forward. I need people on my level.

No. 1017677

>>1017653
Why do you feel like you owe to others being the cheerful one that makes them smile and is always there to listen but don't think like you deserve the same from them? That's a very unhealthy mindset, you should have more compassion and forgiveness for yourself anon.

No. 1017694

>>1017653
>>1017677
Seconded, this will only make your depression worse anon. You should only make efforts for the people that also try to help you. Reciprocity is the key.

No. 1017722

>>1016497
Do you even know what schizoids are anon they’re like mini autists, a lot of you hate trauma dumping and emotional intelligence and needs or whatever coming from your partner so you would be glad to date one kek

No. 1017738

>>1017653
Have you considered that your friends want to try to help you?
There's a difference between asking for help and just dumping things on everyone, any true friends wants to be able to show up when their friend asks for help

No. 1017877

I'm sick of seeing people glamourise autism nowadays, because I can't deal with it at all. Waiting for therapy right now is hell because of constant melt downs for the dumbest things. I'm only aware of the stupidity in hindsight, I have no idea how to stop it. The embarrasment is one thing, but banging my head and all that crap is what really bothers me.
>"Teehee uwu I shake my hands cutely like this to stimm"
Nothing I do is cute or even acceptable. I'm just a walking abomination. The worst part still is being functional enough to realise how cringe I am, while not being able to stop. I'm starting to think lobotomies should come back.

No. 1017882

>>1017877
Yeah, while I think you're too harsh on yourself, I agree with what you say; these tiktoks with girls showing off how Quirky their autism is come off almost insulting and kinda fetishy, I hate it

No. 1017894

>>1017877
don’t worry anon you’re a female autist not like you’re going to shoot up a school and make your family’s life a living hell like autistic scrotes. i really hope you benefit from therapy not as an insult a lot of autists develop mental disorders as well

No. 1018464

>>1017877
this is exactly how i feel about adhd and ocd lol

i literally spent the last hour of new years eve shaking and sobbing and probably ruining my partners night because the realization that i wasted the entire past year trapped in my own mind with nothing to show for it was so heavy i couldn't shake it off. it is so debilitating. it is so hard so much of the time. i'm so sick of having this brain. i reached my absolute breaking point and i couldn't stop crying until i was dragged outside for a walk to calm down and talk it out. i have very little hope for this year being better because i'm poor right now and my adhd membership's "therapy" sessions fucking suck and are overpriced and god knows i won't change on ym own. i fully understand why any anons in this thread say they hate people like me, way more than i understand tiktok larpers who think it's all about being quirky and "ooh squirrel teehee" "sometimes i'm lazy i'm so random omg" grow the FUCK up i would sell my fucking soul to have a working neurotypical brain.

No. 1019478

Going to be vague so I don’t spark anything. but I quite cannot stand bpdchans who also happen to be a minority in any sort of way or shape. They are so often the most hypocritical people and wield their identity as a shield when rightfully called out.

No. 1019500

>>1017877
I hate that shit, my god. Do you know what I did when I heard new year's fireworks outside? I kneeled into a corner and screamed my vocal cords out while covering my ears, it wasn't cute for me, it wasn't cute for my parents either. Muur duur uwu "sensory overload" uwu my ass, wtf. We used to be regarded as "quirky xdd gfs" by 4chan scrotes, and now its the tiktok retards that are into it. I wish the lot of them would have to spend one single day with my sperg ass. We'll see if they think autism is cute after that

No. 1019545

>>1017877
It’s seriously annoying, I don’t even want to get therapy, what’s there to solve? I hate having the autistic label, I will mask all of my life or until I have some autistic breakdown.
I can’t do the things that I like because my stupid ass didn’t make a routine that included my hobbies, so now it will surely take me months again to go back to listening to music, drawing or even doing exercise.
I can’t stop rocking back and forth even in public, which makes me look absolutely retarded and not uwu kawiwi.
I’m constantly being treated like I’m a child, I can’t even go to a doctor without someone asking if there’s someone else who can receive the information that they give to me, about my own health, it’s humiliating.
These narcs want to be special but they just can’t pick a hobby or do something useful in their boring ass lives, I hope they all go full munchie like Kelly the munchie cow.

No. 1019560

>>1019500
She's being called out for faking in all the top comments kek

No. 1019734

my mental health has been plagued by anxiety and panic disorder for 6 years now. i'm 27 and just got a fulltime job for the first time in 6 years!!! my doctor and family all agree that i'm ready and i feel ready for it. but today all i could feel was this intense panic and fear when people were looking at me. i felt like they were judging me, thinking that i'm weird or like they know that i'm a nut case. so i had to leave work early bc i was a sobbing mess.

it was so weird… i work at subway so people are always looking at me when i make their sandwiches but today? it felt so horrible. i've never felt this way at work before. i'm home now but i still feel like i'm about to pass and have a lump in my chest.

i just hope i don't get fired for leaving early. my co-worker was okay with it but i still feel so awful. i want to be a good team mate but i wont be if i can't get this under control. i really thought i was past anxiety attacks and panic attacks but nope.

No. 1019738

I think my childhood friend was a narcissist. She forced me to do a bunch of stuff. It’s still too hard to talk about it.

No. 1019791

>>1019734
I’m proud of you anon! Don’t make a habit out of leaving early, just try to get through it. Most people aren’t even thinking about or looking other people, unless you’re cute. I mean, are you looking at your customers and thinking they’re weird? No well-adjusted person actually does that! The more you expose yourself to it, the more routine it becomes, the more “normal” you’ll feel and you won’t feel so uncomfortable. It’s just new and unusual and scary now, but it won’t be new forever.

No. 1019804

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I have compulsively picked at my skin since I was ~11 years old and I have pretty extensive scarring all over my body. I've brought it up with several mental health professionals but absolutely none of them have suggested anything remotely helpful (hurr durr take up swimming so you'll have to show ur skin, gee thanks doc).

I just want it to end nonnas, I think I would be pretty decent looking if I could just stop mutilating myself but it's not going to happen without intervention I can't seem to get right now

No. 1019812

>>1019804
This sounds so frustrating to deal with, I’m really sorry. I can relate on a lesser scale, I’m really bad for picking at my face/chest area, and I really can’t restrain myself either. I used to bite my nails to the most painful point and compulsively pull out my eyelashes, these seemed to have sorted themselves out as I’ve grown older but I don’t know how to stop the skin picking. Sigh.

No. 1019814

>>1019734
I know it's easier said than done, but try to work through it and be aware of what's happening while trying to distance yourself emotionally from it. I had basically full-day panic attacks when I started my first job and it was extremely difficult, but trying to go about doing what I was supposed to do instead of learning avoidance behaviors was the only way I got through it, and eventually the issue subsided.

No. 1019821

>>1017465

God I fucking can't stand them. They're like mini narcissists.

No. 1020088

>>1019821

OCPDs deserve no love tbh. Fuck those cunts

No. 1020092

>>1020088
Never heard of OCPD before, are they inventing new disorders again? Why are there so many, and how can anons happen to know several people with these, or are you guessing for them? No offense but I am confused

No. 1020148

>>1020092

It's existed in the DSM-IV and V. It's not something new, it's just uncommon. I have known one, and dealt with a bunch of them in a mental health space I was in personally. They're honestly worse than malignant narcissists.

No. 1020253

bipolar and hoarding, not because I hate them but both my parents had it so much to a point where I would legit lost my shit if I ever meet a romantic partner. bipolar because the emotional abuse, hoarding because the neglect on top of that abuse as a child.

No. 1021132

>>1019804
>>1019812
Not to be all Muh Supplements, but there's some evidence supporting glutathione and N-acetylcysteine lessening skin-picking behaviors, though I don't know if they've yet determined the pathway by which it works. Maybe that's something you could ask a dermatologist about.
https://www.researchgate.net/publication/334592097_The_Potential_Uses_of_N-acetylcysteine_in_Dermatology_A_Review

No. 1021979

>>1020148

At least narcissists can fake being nice and still help you, and all they really want is attention. OCPD wants everything to be right for them and are commanding fucking cunts

No. 1021994

>>1021132
jumping in here, i have had dermatillomania since i was like 11 and started taking NAC (1800 mg/day) regularly and it does help a whole fucking lot. the urge and ability to space out and pick for hours is almost gone. haven't had a terrible episode of picking since i started taking the shit. it is expensive though.

No. 1022075

>>1013881
Holy shit you sound psychotic. She quit because you probably harassed the fuck out of her for no reason other than jealousy and you couldn't get gossip. You deserve to work with other miserable bitches. Learn some social skills.

No. 1022265

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>like being on my own for long periods of time
>enjoy reading schizo-tier stuff
>don't do drugs
>sometimes get too into certain things and start feeling paranoid/unreal
>last time it happened I thought a song was trying to tell me something. I understood the actual words but for a second was convinced the meaning was completely different and felt weird for the next hour or so.

I don't think anyone in my family has been diagnosed with anything serious (just the usual post war/poverty generational trauma).

Is this normal or should I be worried? I don't see myself as being easily impressionable but who knows. Used to think I was autistic but I'm probably just 'eccentric'.

No. 1022271

>>1022265
Forgot to add that I tend to avoid anyone who uses their illness as an excuse to either be mean, annoying or lazy in a way that inconveniences others. Especially when they seem proud of it, like they get pleasure from reminding others that they have _____.

No. 1022278

Anyone had OCD pop up later in life? Snuck up on me. Happened when I was about 23. I started to get real paranoid about chemicals, stopped using shampoo and conditioner and stopped using cleaning products besides unscented soap. Then I couldn't eat fast food cause I was paranoid there was plastic in it, then no sugar. I got real nervous touching unfamiliar surfaces because I didn't know what they cleaned them with. I didn't connect for a long time, I never thought I had it cause I'm disorganized and the opposite of a germaphobe. It wasn't until I started washing my hands a ton because I was afraid of the chemicals on surfaces that it finally clicked, chemicals = germs. I'm still trying to figure out how to manage it, it seems to come and go.

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No. 1022318

>>1022278
Most of mental issues can manifest only later in life, due to changes in your life your prior coping mechanisms may stop being effective or the illness symptoms may just get a bit more severe therefore becoming noticeable. Sounds very OCD in your case, if you'll continue to struggle to manage it it's worth seeing a psychiatrist, even without prior diagnosis

No. 1022344

>>1022318
are we rly that fragile? damn

No. 1022363

>>1022344
nta but it's not necessarily that these issues come into existence later in life. Often the underlying issue is already there from an early age but only becomes apparent later on, after a change in environment or lifestyle.

Either way, assuming you're the op, you mentioned it comes and goes. Are there also periods where the issue seems to be gone entirely? Can't hurt to see a psych for it like the other anon said.

No. 1022377

When burgers say burgerland is a 2nd or 3rd world country. You can break the illusion of a perfect and advanced country without equaling it to countries in wars, in decades long economic crisis, where many children don't even go to school, with mafias killing people in public places, etc etc etc

No. 1022403

I can deal with just about anything if it's managed. I have friends with pretty severe issues but they acknowledge and work their asses off on them. Most of them had abusive childhoods or medical trauma that kicked things off, so I wonder if that makes a difference compared to just having shit genetics since escaping their circumstances has given them a goal. I actually like mild autists because they're very predictable and in a weird way it's nice to not worry about embarrassing myself socially around them. Once you understand how they think you can even head off an impending meltdown if you know how to approach it. It might be easier since I have non-hyperactive adhd and have a lot in common with them.
People with NPD should be put down though, the only time they have anything redeemable about them is when they fight each other. I have several in my family and I have 0 empathy for them.

No. 1022637

>>1022377
1. This isn't the thread for this, anon, 2. Stop it or you will summon the resident trolls and their pickmes who like to shit on disadvantaged women like you (Assuming you live in a 3rd world country), 3. If you're a scrote, fuck off with this low quality bait.

No. 1023088

My anorexic pickme mentor drives me insane. She's ten years older than me and has been in our industry a long time, so I have to listen to her. She exhibits signs of "starvation brain" and lives in a constant state of frantic anxiety. She acts like the sky is falling every second and is triggered by other people (me) being calm/cool/collected. The only explanation is that she's on cavewoman survival mode from AN brain shrinkage.
I wait on her hand and foot and she still bites my head off and yells at me for following her instructions.
She never eats and one of her favorite conversation topics is how small and desirable she is. The men who work with us just chuckle at her, but I find myself really affected. Especially when she makes fun of me for eating or talks negatively about women who are my size. I'm average size btw. This is where the line needs to be drawn. She's missing teeth from anorexia and seems to have perma teenager brain despite being almost 40. Every time she talks about her fake Insta-therapy I grit my teeth. She needs actual help, not YOU GO GURRRL on Instagram validating her bullshit.

No. 1023097

>>1022377
I'm a burgerlander and I've never heard anyone say this, not even once.

No. 1023099

>>1023097
am also burger, never heard it either

No. 1023106

>>1023088
>40
>She exhibits signs of "starvation brain" and lives in a constant state of frantic anxiety. She acts like the sky is falling every second and is triggered by other people (me) being calm/cool/collected
I don't disagree with your assessment that she has starvation brain but this stuff also sounds like menopause so that's possible

No. 1023108

>>1023106
>menopause
>almost 40
Yeah… unlikely

No. 1023118

>>1023108
Nta but if she's anorexic I think that can cause early menopause? Or if she's a smoker or something like that it could cause it too

No. 1023120

>>1023118
Her hair is almost all grey. She's been sober for a few years but I know she used to have a pill problem and that definitely ages you prematurely.

No. 1024043

>>1019812
>>1021132
>>1021994
Thanks for the insight nonnies, I posted >>1019804 and I'll look into it. I'm UK-based, so do you think it's something the NHS could do for me?

No. 1029790

>>1023088
This reminds me of my vegan roommate who was above average weight but her brain was konked

No. 1033916

ADHD, as an ADHDfag myself kek. It's not that hard to try a bit harder by doing things step by step, take your meds, and stop whining about your ADHD impacting you online 24/7 when you've been playing video games for two thirds of the day.

No. 1034016

>>1019500
>people are not allowed to have a lighter autism than ME
>ME
This is right, we should go back to portray autists are screaming fucktards, and treat them as such : locking them in asylums and forcefeeding them benzos until they get heart attacks.

Yes, I hate autists.

No. 1034030

>>1034016
Nta but that was pretty obvious about people who don't actually have autism using autism as a cute aesthetic of sorts. That's a far cry from what you said. Even the top comments are calling her out on that video.

No. 1034205

>>1034016

You're completely missing the point.

Also at least the autists on here are female, so with a little support and effort they'll be okay. Autistic scrotes can fuck off, nasty creeps probably been abandoned by God.

No. 1034728

>>1034016

You sound autistic yourself.

No. 1034738

>>1034728
>>1034205
You just make love to that enter button, don't ya?

No. 1034774

Any addictions. I get that your body is physically unable to resist it or something but I have no respect for anyone who decides to fall down that rabbit hole.

I honestly don't get people who celebrate overcoming their addictions. It's annoying, like you weren't born with that shit nor was it an accident, it was your own fault so shut up.

Worse is when you dare speak up about it and get called ableist or some shit, or that it's a "victimless" crime and shouldn't be punished. It sure totally isn't a victimless crime if you're normalising that lifestyle to others, especially vulnerable, impressionable children.

>>1034030
>>1034205
>>1034728
>>1034738

Jfc stfu

No. 1034782

>>1034728
>>1034738
I'm giggling. I love both of you.

No. 1034806

>>1034205
I really think this is an illusion. My sister is 31 and autistic and she is very self-centered because she's so unaware. She is very delusional, too. For instance, she believes she is gorgeous and model-tier, but in reality she is rather plain and she's never had a boyfriend. She believes she looks extremely young for her age, but she has lots of expressions lines, and she does not understand her youthfulness is from her unawareness. She believes she is extremely intelligent, but if she is, she has little to show for it as she was stuck in college for 9 years before quitting with no degree to her name. She has a job as essentially a cashier and it was given to her by a family member, but she talks big about how she will be a data scientist. She cannot collaborate with others and she is convinced that experiences she has are unique to her i.e. thinking visually. She denies she has autism as well. She also still lives with my parents, but she is convinced that she is smart because instead of living on her own, she is living off my parents. My father is autistic as well, but at least he has a job. It's stressful because extended family members ask which sibling will take her in (she is the oldest) when my parents pass and none of us do, it's grating living with someone who is convinced that them being "different" i.e. autistic is superior when they cannot support themselves in the first place.

I don't know why my parents stopped trying. We as a family used to try to correct her autistic behavior, such as telling her she's way too loud, or that it's inappropriate to tell random people how hot her body will be to her future husband, or her habit of picking at her croch when she talks to people, but once she turned 20 or so, my parents made us all stop and she got significantly worse. It's weird because she isn't mentally retarded, but she's just terribly unaware. I don't know if that can be helped.

No. 1034863

>>1033916
I agree, the pomedero technique makes my executive dysfunction managable most of the time even if it makes me feel like shit.

No. 1034993

>>1034774
>you weren't born with that shit nor was it an accident, it was your own fault
You know there are babies born addicts to drugs or alcohol because of their parents, right?

No. 1035021

>>1034993

nayrt but it easily treatable at birth? Also I wouldn't say they're born addicted, but the babies can be born with drugs in their system and that really just causes them symptoms of withdrawal but I doubt they'd be taking them during childhood

No. 1035047

>>1035021

neonatal abstinence syndrome doesn't go further into later childhood or adulthood.

No. 1037439

>>1034806
>For instance, she believes she is gorgeous and model-tier, but in reality she is rather plain and she's never had a boyfriend.
Everytime someone says they're a 10/10 on lolcow, I picture them like this in my mind

No. 1037530

I really can't sympathise with druggies and addicts in general. As somebody who has depression, I don't see how somebody would risk ruining their life in further by taking a substance that is KNOWN to be addictive and ruins lives. I am pretty paranoid about developing addictions and avoid any unnecessary substances like alcohol just because I am scared of my mind some how trying to justify using it as a coping mechanism.

I also can't stand hoarding or overconsumption in general. I'll even include people who buy constant hauls and designer shit all the time for no reason. Living with people who are huge consoomers is really irritating.

No. 1041675

>>1037530

And when you speak up about it they throw spergy meltdowns about how they're trying to recover or that it's helping them. It's even more annoying if they actually do recover and make such a big deal out of it like it's not like you were born with it or it was an involuntary development unlike other mental illnesses. They chose to take those drugs or hoard, it's all on them.

No. 1041715

>>1037530
This one kid and his mom near my hometown effectively got a whole bunch of people addicted to heroin. They're both dead now and got a few others killed too, and one of my friends addicted. Addicts are scum, they enable each other and drag others into their self destruction. I can empathize with people who get addicted because of painkillers but why do it on your own for any reason? I've had depression my whole life and never once was tempted.
It's always the same reactions to OD deaths too, they act so shocked and like nothing could have prevented it. These are also the idiots who think we should decriminalize all drugs, as if responsible heroin or meth use is even possible (it isn't)

No. 1041859

>>1041675
This. Junkies should be locked up in an island tbh. It sucks that we are expected to sympathize with their addiction and recovery stories.

No. 1042869

People who get ADHD and then make it their entire personality in addition to treating 'neurodiversity' as a word just for ADHD.

I've now seen a bunch of academics, yes, actual professors, get tested for ADHD and posting about it on Twitter every day and calling everything ADHD. I get feeling happy you found why you are like that, but shit like "I listen to the same song on repeat" is not a fucking ADHD trait and you shouldn't be telling people it is.

No. 1043891

I still cannot grasp the concept of Autism and Neurodivergent (ADHD). Like, I do not understand how it works, and I find it's harder to believe someone has it unless they're properly diagnosed.

I was one told by an older friend (who studied psychology 101) that I have signs of ADHD, but didn't want to elaborate it. Back then some of my relatives from the US told my mom that I have signs of neurodivergent.

I've been to psychiatrist and therapists, and they didn't diagnose me such. (I was diagnosed with depression and different things).

I kind of have a bad taste towards the term Autism, Neurodivergent and ADHD because of what people "attempted" to diagnose me. And in the past I kept running to people who cried "I have autism and all your criticism towards me is BULLYING" kind of deal and it still stings me to think about. Not to mention the tiktok munchies these days.

Idk, if a friend tell me they went to see a specialist and have a proper diagnose then I'd believe them, but if the person is like "Idk I might be neurodivergent. Oh, you can't change my mind since it's IN my brain", I cant bring myself to take them seriously.

IDK anons can you enlighten me about this. I feel like an asshole right now.

No. 1050790

>>1043891
I'm newly diagnosed with autism but I'm still unsure what to feel about it. I also felt like the person who suspected it of me was pushing for it, even if I do have some signs. But I think overall it's been a positive for me.
That said I can't get behind the same things you are describing. I also get super annoyed at people who claim to be ND for mundane shit that literally everyone does. Omg I like to click my pen and jiggle my leg, I'm stimming, I'm so neurodiverse! Like no, you aren't special.
I don't plan to mingle with the autism community because so many people like that exist.
Keep in mind though that it's very hard for women to get diagnosed because they mask better, doesn't happen until later in life. If you want more answers I'd check out the ASD/ADHD thread here because it isn't full of munchie neurodiverse larpers.

No. 1057455

Basically any personality disorder.
I hate how people treat it as some sort of crippling disease, go to therapy and learn to behave, lazy ass.

No. 1057482

>>1057455
Literally this for every moid with BPD.

They will do the most reckless unsafe unsanitary shit and be like "uh yea that's just my BPD lol" yeah we fucking know already dumbass that doesn't mean it's excusable to go around and fuck 30+ people without wearing a condom once, or get yourself into thousands of £ worth of debt because you view overdrafts and loans as 'free money'.

They always seem to constantly want to talk about themselves and act like absolute narcs, I had terrible luck trying to be friends with someone with it because they rarely asked me shit about myself or my own life and it felt so one-sided.

No. 1061226

I did some thinking and I think I'd rather deal with an overdiagnosed twitard who uses their mental illness as a crutch, than undiagnosed crazies who claim nothing is wrong with them. You usually get this from undiagnosed narc men who claim worrying about mental health is for women, that all medication is poison, and that they are perfectly normal. Same men who will threaten violence if they get the wrong order at McDonald's.
Yeah sure, totally normal.

No. 1061230

>>1061226
i think about this often. the 'culture' around mental illness is so weird. people blame normal things like staying up late on their mental illnesses or traumas. or use their mental illnesses to dodge out of criticism, or make it into a personality. on the other hand, we have people seemingly untouched by this 'culture' who don't realize how insane they actually are. and won't admit to their mental problems. both don't want to improve or get help.

No. 1061302

Trannies. Nothing will convince me that body dysphoria isn't some sexual fetish shit or a compulsion they think is normal or the result of being physically or sexually abused, all of which therapists need to actually look in. Gender dysphoria CAN be caused by fetishistic disorders or trauma but therapists seem to think that's impossible because wah wah transphobia and one mention of feeling slightly out of touch with yourself and gender identity and they'll shoot you on HRT.

No. 1061329

>>1061302
You know I find it funny that so many trannies are the same kind of people mentioned in >>1061226 who want "muh mental health awareness" but they push back so hard on gender dysphoria being a mental illness. Even if you are pro tranny, you can't deny that feeling the other gender is a mental thing, whether that's a paraphilia or not, and the supposed "treatment" is HRT or surgery. Why do they wanna get rid of the mental health stigma but start wars over trannyism being considered one?

No. 1061336

>>1061302
Can body dysphoria be a disorder in itself or is it always just a symptom? Because I don't get how being trans stopped being recognized as a disorder but shit like eating disorders are still considered disorders for good reasons.

No. 1061342

only weak and cowardly people get addicted to drugs. i'm so tired of the "addiction is a disease" meme.

No. 1061344

>>1061342
"I can't control it!! :("
No one is forcing you to drive to get to your dealer.
"But then I'll feel bad!!"
Cope

No. 1061345

>>1061302
yes, ever notice how almost all MtF trannies seem to get into sex work? it's almost like they're doing this for a fetish, it's especially gross when they try to act cute and childlike online.
FtM trannies are also eh to me but they're such a small minority, and I could kind of understand wanting to be a feminine man than a masculine women, since masculine women are treated like shit.
>>1061344
pretty much this
I have so much more respect for people who face their traumas sober than people who just check out and ruin the lives of everyone else around them.

No. 1061346

>>1061342
I'm the weakest and patheticest of them all. I'm addicted to ibuprofen and olynth nasal spray. They don't even get me high. They just ruin my stomach/nose lining and are a money drain. Sigh.

No. 1061362

>>1061344
The easiest way to not be an addict is to not do it the first time. Painkiller dependency be damned, which it rarely ever is.

No. 1061369

my moms friend was an ex-user and when the covid 19 pandemic first started in the us, she was so paranoid she quit her job and got back into her drug habit to cope. and then the dumbass od'd and now her kids have nobody but their already ancient grandparents.

No. 1061373

>>1061369
Every addict that says "It only affects me! I'm destroying myself!! I'm the only one to suffer, that's why I use drugs!" is covered in a special kind of narcissism that I cannot stand. They would kill themselves for not accepting they do not feel the slightest hint of empathy

No. 1061376

>>1061373
narcissism is a good way of putting it. they piss me off so much, and then they compare their addiction to that of somebody who has something like cancer. what an insult.

No. 1061379

>>1061342
I remember that tweet where a guy was saying he's been sober for a specific number or years or months after being a raging alcoholic, and when someone with common sense said that it wasn't really an achievment when you think about it and that there's no point to this tweet EVERYONE lost their shit. So I guess it's an unpopular opinion but I agree with the second guy, if you were retarded and weak enough to become an addict, you not being one anymore doesn't matter because it's less than the bare minimum.

No. 1061390

>>1061379
People being proud of being addiction free, after ruining their lives and their loved one's, destroying their body, crippling themselves and such is like moids being proud of "respecting women"
That's the bare minimum. It's normal.

No. 1061410

>>1061373
I also hate how society and their loved ones enable them. Drug addicts destroy many US cities and they just get slaps on the wrist because they supposedly can't help it. It's disgusting

No. 1061431

>>1061373

This. They're always like "OMG IT'S A VICTIMLESS CRIME!!!" Where is it victimless? You devastate the lives of those around you, traumatise your children, increase risks of making them also ruining their health and lives, and promote that culture to young impressionable kids everywhere.

Druggie retards should all overdose tbh. Then we'd see the effect of it and drug addictions would plummet.

No. 1061432

>>1061336

There's body dysmorphic disorder, which exists in the DSM iirc. Though most therapists won't bat an eye to this and just say oh you're trans, thought about hormones and cutting your tits or dick off?

No. 1061433

>>1061431
>>1061432

sorry for samefag I'm a retard

No. 1061508

>>1061432
All this shit seems so vague. It's like the psychiatrists who decided to write down which symptoms which to lead disorders and which treatments should work are just writing random shit. I wonder what kind of treatment someone who's just suffering from body dysmorphism could get if they didn't have a shitty therapist. Like, a patient who doesn't have any other disorders linked to that, not someone who's anorexic or does excessive plastic surgery as a result for example. I can't even guess because when I was a teen my doctors thought I probably had something similar to body dysmorphism but it would have been the direct result of a physical disorder than made me look different enough from the rest of society at the time. If anyone knows any interesting documentaries on the topic I'm interested.

No. 1061744

>>1061431
They're dying off in hoards but it still happens. Always will

No. 1063024

Anyone who has an "emotional support animal". They are not qualified guide animals, and 99% of people who have them are just using it as an excuse to bring their untrained pet into no-pet areas. I genuinely cannot grasp this idea, yeah sure they're cute and cuddly but the idea of them providing emotional support is ludicrous. You're putting stress on the animal if they can tell you're sad or whatever, and it just proves you're too lazy or in your own head to seek actual therapy with a damn human.

No. 1063031

>>1063024
Theraphy is bullshit

No. 1063035

>>1063031

Better than an animal who most people abuse the shit out of and say it's for emotional support.

No. 1063049

>>1063031
>getting therapy from an educated professional and working through my issues? Bullshit!
>carrying a poor animal around places and putting it into stress because only animals can sstandmy mentally unstable self? Based!
This is how you sound.

No. 1063069

>>1063024
Idk anon, I went to secondary school with a kid with an emotional support dog. The dog was properly trained for it and they had to be on a waitlist for him. Whatever neurological problem the kid had, afaik he was born with it and the difference in his personality is night and day whether the dog was around. I actually enjoyed having the dog around, because he was very well behaved and helped against my anxiety during e.g. tests (you were allowed to pet him a bit).

No. 1063082

>>1063049

Exactly. While many therapists can be full of shit sometimes and promote toxic positivity or something like that, people who carry around ESAs tend to be borderline emotional abusers to those poor animals. No animal should suffer from having to empathise with your bullshit that they don't understand just because you won't go to therapy or AT LEAST talk to someone, practice healthy techniques, or anything else.

No. 1063088

>>1063069
That's not an ESA, that's a real service animal.

No. 1063104

>>1063069

That's cute, he sounds like a nice doggo, but you guys were kids. When you're a grown adult you should at least try to grow up and take control of your own problems, it's different. Most people with ESAs who demand accommodations for them are in their late 20s or older and never grew up past 14.

Like get a plushie or something kek. It's cute, easy to maintain and at least you can't actually hurt it.

>>1063088

Yeah you're right anon. Doesn't sound like an ESA if it's properly trained and has a waitlist.

>>1063031

Sounds like someone's salty about being called out for shitty behaviour and won't go to therapy.

No. 1063114

>>1063035
>Being sad around your pet and bringing it places is abuse
I fucking cant

No. 1063143

>>1063114
For real. She is humanizing the dog too much. The dog doesn't give a shit if you are sad or happy around it as long as the hugs don't go on too long and it's getting food. It's a fucking dog. No animal should have to suffer from having to "empathise"? It's a dog, Marie. It can't do that

No. 1063757

>>1063114

I think anon was talking about how most people with ESAs mistreat their animals outside of the "emotional support" thing, because I've seen this case quite a few times.

No. 1063762

>>1063114
tbh there are some places where animals shouldn't be, they are naturally stressful, extremely loud environments for animals who don't understand what's going on. as far as being sad goes, yeah obviously they don't care if you're sad

No. 1063978

I hate that I'm not old at all, and yet recently I've been tired of living. Waking up, every day, having responsibilities, having to burden expectations, going to bed. Even things I used to like doing feel like a chore. I do what I need to do; I pay my bills, I go to work, my house is clean. But there's something that is nauseating right now about existing. I want to improve my life and the problems that are bringing me down, but it feels like I am progressing too slowly.

This is not me suicide-baiting; I love my parents and family too much for them to experience a traumatic death, and I'm scared of death, anyway. But man, it would be so nice to go in like a little sleeping chamber and wake up a couple of years or whatever later. I don't wanna deal with being alive right now.

Were we really just born to die? Is that what we wait for?

No. 1064126

>>1063978
Post this in the vent thread nonnie

No. 1064129

>>1063031
No one wants to be around your "emotional support pittie", anon. Cope better.

No. 1064231

"Abuse survivors" are so fucking annoying.

"I was abused as a child" sorry your parents gave you a rightful smack for being a little shit.

"I'm a CSA survivor" translation: "Someone touched my ass so you're wrong"

In fact most "CSA survivors" are just exaggerating or purposely flirted with adults as kids and know this full well but want sympathy points. Don't tell me kids don't know at least SOME parts of what they're doing.(bait)

No. 1064247

>>1064231
>purposely flirted with adults as kids
KYS

No. 1064249

>>1064247
this is not only obviously posted by a man but a defective one at that who should be removed from the genepool(responding to bait)

No. 1064251

>>1064231
You’re such a stupid bitch. I usually ignore imbeciles on the internet, but you truly are an unempathetic arrogant and stupid asshole.
Touching a kid even if it’s “just a smack on the ass” or sexually is awful, kids do not understand fully because their brains are not fully developed. Children grown in a healthy environment won’t “””flirt””” with adults and adults should know not to respond to such advances no matter how desperate the child is.

No. 1064254

>>1064251
don't get too winded it has to be a scrote baiting
no one can actually blame kids for "flirting with adults"
right
right

No. 1064255

>>1064231
What in gaslighting hell. Did you abuse a child and are pissed they're speaking up about it? What would even possess you to think this way?

No. 1064258

>>1064254
Anonita… I wish I could say you are correct…

No. 1064267

>>1064254
I work around kids and because of that I get flirted with all the time since I'm a young, conventionally attractive girl. Never once would I think to blame them for sexual abuse or have I even took their flirting seriously. this includes the teenagers as well since men like to magically play blind and dumb when they're messing around with minors who are teens.

Hopefully men who think this way aren't around actual children if you take kids flirting seriously and see it as a chance to sexually abuse them

No. 1064283

>>1064231
Shut the fuck up, pedophile

No. 1064301

>>1064231
This is the trashiest take i've seen on this site all month. This is why this place is bad now

No. 1064310

>>1064231
>6year old child talks to you
>omg she's flirting with me reee small femoid leading me on reee
Get help.(responding to obvious scrote bait)

No. 1064313

>>1064267
Flirting isn't friendly chatter. It's to signal sexual interest. How can a child who doesn't even know what sex is flirt with someone? I get complimented by children too but it's just compliments. They aren't "flirting".

No. 1064469

>>1064283
>>1064255
>>1064251
>>1064249
>>1064247

Don't interact with the trolling scrote lol.

Unless it's serious, to which I have zero words.

No. 1064473

That one disorder where instead of two X chromosomes there's like one X and then a Y???? Cannot deal with that mental disorder.

No. 1064562

>>1064313
Saying stuff like "you're so pretty I want to marry you" or something stupid like that kids say. What else would you call it? Teens definitely flirt with adults but it's the adults responsibility to recognize it and you know, not commit statutory rape

No. 1064739

>>1064313
This crazy lawyer disagrees. Really far out shit.

No. 1069895

Moids with autism. Either they're loud, rough and pissy or silent, know-it-all, elliot rodger type.
I think they should be kept somewhere where they don't interact with women

No. 1070034

>>1069895
That, or they're loud and annoying and can't take the hint that no one wants them there. For some reason I seem to attract this type.

No. 1070757

>>854673 i hate many mental disorders kek. Anorexia and bullimia for starters, those are the most unbearable patients in the word. Usually DOA, the recuperation chances are very slim and it need intervención of multiple areas. And good luck finding a nutritionist who isnt a pro-ana themselves or overall disconnected from reality.
I find autism and bpd/cluster b very annoying but not as overwhelming as anorexia and bullimia. Unless if is something in my country we call a "caño" (sorry, i don't know how to translate the concept kek) who is a patient diagnosed at a very young age and is pretty much hopeless. There is no way to improve their condition and is all "palliative care" until they die. And no, i personally dont think lolcows are like that unless some exceptions. All caños are annoying but but i think those are the worst.
addicts are horrid but is mostly because all addictions got different aproachs (thats why AA is mostly ok and NA is a mess that barely works) and you need to considered comorbidities (Aka, when an autist is using drugs as a way to cope with their defective brain not even the "normal" aproach for addiction-to-that-drug is going to work) and is even worse when is an "inusual" addiction like porn.
And this is a very specific thing but i can't with schzotypal chatter. It fills me with blind rage. I just i can't with them, i even avoid threads with clearly schzotypal lolcows. Sorry for els retardation and overall sperging.

No. 1071608

>>1069895
>I think they should be kept somewhere where they don't interact with women
that place used to be the internet

No. 1076362

>>1069895
Don't forget the ones who act like they live in a harem manga.

No. 1077063

I can't stand being around most depressed people. Any mental illness in general to be fair.

They drag you down in their problems. I'm not saying it's their fault at all, and I hope they get the help and recovery they need, but I just can't be around them. They often have a tendency to be snarky and 99% of the time they will bring others down to feel better.

It's kind of sad that the brain's way of coping with depression is making you more depressed.

No. 1077078

>>1077063
Yeah that's why most mentally unwell people have friends who share similar mental troubles.

No. 1077527

>>1077063
This is so true. I used to have friends who were the most self-hating people on the planet and they were so toxic to be around. They ended up hating me and they'd be so up and down, you never knew what they would be like that day. It's like a milder from of BPD/NPD where you have to walk on eggshells around them. God forbid you show any ounce of optimism or suggest professional help, they'll attack you for it. I'm surprised depressed people ever have any friends.

No. 1079125

>>1077063

Also some of them physically disgust me. They'll not shower for weeks on end and blame it on "muh depression". Sometimes I'll be too tired to brush my teeth or shower one or two nights, but the fact that these people will sit in their beds for weeks steaming in their own filth makes me want to puke.

No. 1079192

>>1077078

And they encourage each other's toxic behaviours. It's pretty sad tbh. Unless one of them is mentally healthy and has gone through mental troubles but has recovered and is able to help and give advice. Those sorts of people are decent. Otherwise, it's a cesspool of unstable screaming.

No. 1079255

>>1079192
>Unless one of them is mentally healthy and has gone through mental troubles but has recovered and is able to help and give advice.
I think when this happens, there ends up being a lot of resentment, and sometimes the mentally unwell "friend" will literally try to drag you back down. When I recovered from my eating disorder and other co-morbid problems that arose from that, I genuinely had some of them trying to get me to relapse. I wasn't allowed to be a vegan any more as it made it too easy to restrict food, and my vegetarian friend would make nasty comments about the food I was eating, or start calling me a liar when I told him I couldn't eat as a vegan any more. He also just became so mean to me, like it was out of nowhere. I would also try to give advice too but it would always be met with hostility. It was so damn exhausting being their friends. Because of that experience I seriously limit the amount of mentally ill people I hang around with. I only seek stable people which may be hypocritical because of my past but I don't ever want to be a miserable husk ever again.

No. 1079336

People who identify as non-binary. They really think they are trans or queer and are fully comfortable advocating and talking over gays and "actual" trans people (i don't believe in true trans people, it's a mental illness) The people who suffer from dysphoria need therapy and help to overcome their delusion, enbys just make it harder for them to get that treatment, so instead we get deranged men who insist on going into the women's changing rooms so they can flash their "girldick". Enby even fittingly sounds like "enabler".

They are also on par with conservative white elderly christians in their view of gender. They really think if they're not stacy perfection they're not fully female. They actually think gender is a spectrum and they refuse to think about it for 5 seconds to realize that actually, a butch lesbian with a short haircut is equally as female as stacy mcbarbie over there, neither is more female they are EXACTLY the same amount of female.

Lastly they refuse to accept that they are trenders bandwagoning a trend. "it's not a phase mom, this is the real me!"

No. 1079340

>>1079125
Those kinds are the worst because they know they're filthy but try to "lift up the mood" (how lol) by saying shit like "I just brushed my teeth after a month kek xD" in a sad attempt to make you smile but in reality I just think they're gross.
Anyway, slight blogpost, as a former depressed person, going out with depressed people makes me feel like shit. When I was deep into my illness, I wouldnt get out, I would just shitpost on chans for relieving some feelings and that was it, I passed years on youtube and deviantart and I think that somehow, getting a hobby such as art, helped a bit. I'm doing better, by a lot and if I look back I feel so bad and I'm trying to accept it and I cannot wrap my head about people my age not being self aware in the slightest and choosing, because at a certain point it becomes something you actively choose, to not get well. How are they not tired? You have to options: or to hang urself if shit goes really bad or seek help and I cannot stand the ones who bathe themselves in the middle.
If they see you being happy, they get filled with rage, the day could be going well and suddenly they feel the need to let anyone know they're thinking about suicide. Sick. I think that depression, if not treated properly, could evolve in a cluster B in no time. I hate them, I truly do.

No. 1079379

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>>1079336
Kek next time you see an enbyfag show them picrel

No. 1080515

>>1079340

>relieving some feelings and that was it, I passed years on youtube and deviantart and I think that somehow, getting a hobby such as art, helped a bit.


You're not alone. I was basically the same during my preteen up to mid teen years. Kinda Cluster B-ish behaviour but I grew out of it.

>I cannot wrap my head about people my age not being self aware


I feel like this could be due to current mental health awareness being way too romanticising and accepting of relying on others for help and accepting toxic behaviours. I mean, it's good to erase certain stigmas so self-aware people can get help and change but then it's led to this.

>How are they not tired?


The brain's weird like that. As >>1077063 said, it's funny how it copes with depression by being more depressed e.g. getting up and doing stuff helps you with depression, but depression makes you lazy.

No. 1080827

>>1079192
Longtime depressionfag here and sorry for blog I am realizing how hard it is to date depressed people. I see myself in them and want them to get better, but it's so fucking hard. My moid refuses to seek help no matter how much I push it and I'm so close to ending it. Doesn't matter how much I say I love him, he refuses to see it. Overcoming depression unfortunately comes from hard life lessons and less coddling. I know what it's like on the other side but fuck is it hard to just see someone do nothing.
I don't wanna sound like one of those "bullying builds character" sociopaths but really, you need someone to kick your ass. Surrounding yourself with imageboard sadbois like he does will only hinder him further.

No. 1081423

>>1077063
I used to be really depressed so i totally get what it's like for them, but i also agree. I was never the snarky kind though, I always felt immense guilt even for venting about it and not pretending to be happy. It's such a vicious cycle, you get depressed because you don't have (real) friends and you can't make friends because you're depressed.

Seeing other depressed strangers online helped a lot, for two reasons:
1 literally because I didn't want to be annoying like them. I could tell they were dragging everyone else down with them and that's the last thing i wanted to do to my friends/family
2 seeing the ones who genuinely tried to get better made me feel like i could try too. Seeing them fail sometimes, but keep going helped me not stop trying

I think it had to be strangers who I could watch in silence without any interaction. To this day I'm very vary of people like group 1, because I'm scared they'll drag me back down. I still have a depressed friend and he always assumes I'm doing way worse than I am. I'll be like "I'm pretty tired today" and he thinks that means I'm staring at the ceiling crying, unable to move because I'm so exhausted. Like nah, I'm literally just sleepy and want to go to bed early. But I notice him assuming the worst in me makes my brain sort of go "huh maybe he's right and I should be sad like I used to be". Idk why, it's like I want to live up to his expectations? But after noticing it I make sure to keep a distance from him.

No. 1081837

>>1079336

The ones who genuinely feel like they're not any gender often have this due to trauma/illness. Former enbyfag here (sorry for kinda blog post) and it took me years to figure out I felt non-binary because I didn't feel female enough due to my society. Being a poc was probably the first contributing factor. Either way, trannies are either fetishisers or need help for other illnesses that they mistake for being trans.

No. 1081940

>>1079336
I see 2 main categories of female tranners, the 'trend tran' and the 'trauma tran' With some overlap happening too.

I feel for the latter because more pressing underlying issues get put on the backburner in favor of gender therapy. I see it as a distraction from facing the elephant in the room. Reminds me of how alcoholics spend decades drinking and when they get sober they're back at square one opening up emotional wounds from when they were a kid being abused. When I see women getting mastectomies done and talking about 'gender euphoria' from removing body parts.. I imagine them at 40 breaking down about something terrible that happened decades earlier and got buried. The lengths that people will unknowingly go to to explain away what are really just signs of csa or some other abuse.

No. 1082209

>>1080827

End it anonita. That's clearly not healthy to be around.

>>1081837
This. Many autists, PTSD survivors, and CSA survivors qualify for gender dysphoria when it's just trauma or literally being different but they think it's a gender thing. Not to mention nowadays they don't think you need dysphoria to be trans, which makes it even worse.

>being poc was a factor

Yep. Considering woc are treated like they aren't feminine enough with beauty standards and fashion and such, it would be pretty understandable for one to feel like they're not female enough, but definitely not a male, so gotta stick in the middle or out of it with the non-binary label. Pretty sad ngl that this is confused for a gender thing.

No. 1085319

>>1081837
I don't see many former enbys so proud of you for getting out of it! Sadly as you point out a lot of it is rooted in trauma, racism and sexism. I wish so badly young girls could just access real mental health care to help them see this and that it's not their fault.

No. 1085651

>>1085319

Agreed. Unfortunately most mental health care these days believes in troonery and will shoot you up on HRT with one therapy session though

No. 1086909

Basically anyone who stans a music artist because said music is about boohoo r/im14andthisisdeep romance and then goes around saying it's better than therapy. Like just kill yourself already

No. 1087072

>>1085651
is there any therapist at all that actually helps without robotic responses and just sending you straight off to SSRIs?

No. 1087306

Started gaining weight cause of the antidepressants, can't go to gym because of depression.
Don't know my weight, but I almost gained 5 cm on my waist, shits fucked. So I guess now I'm depressed and fat.

No. 1087308

>>1087306
Monitor your calories, meds might increase your appetite but not how calories affect you. When I lost the majority of my weight I worked out in front of netlfix with 5lb weights. Hope things get better, anon.

No. 1097017

Not sure if there's a disorder for this, but whatever it is that causes parasocial attachments to online figures/celebs and the delusion that they could love you.

No. 1097025

>>1087308
Meds can affect caloric requirements.

No. 1097040

>>1087306
ssris are poison for more than one reason

No. 1097042

>>1097017
the term I heard used more recently was caused limerance, which is a blanket term for deep infatuation with someone who doesnt or cant reciprocate your feelings.

No. 1097440

>>1097040
correct SSRIs fixed my disordered eating, among with other things. would be dead without them honestly
>>1097042
limerent objects can eventually reciprocate feelings, online personalities cannot (or there is a much smaller chance of that) though. But yeah, limerence may be at play

No. 1098463

>>1097017

Could be limerence as other anons are saying but if you're talking more about idol/celeb stans or something, then it's just lack of affection in childhood or moderate to severe depression leading to them projecting onto people who will never know them.

>>1097440
>correct SSRIs fixed my disordered eating
Whoa which ones did you take anon?

No. 1098547

>>1097040
Can you elaborate? I've been on one for a while and honestly feel like it does jack shit, they even cranked me to the highest dose possible because of this and I still notice zero side effects from it, either positive or negative. I want to go off them because I feel like it's just a waste of money

No. 1098778

anxiety is a meme

No. 1098798

>>1098778
Kindly shove it up your bum, nona, I don't choose to have panic attacks at literally nothing, my body is betraying me and you're trying to tell me I'm just goofin around.

No. 1098941

>>1098778
I used to believe that, then suddenly I starded to have panic attacks every other day and my stomach stopped digesting everything. Felt no hunger either. I would retch after drinking water. Eventually I lost so much weight that I was hospitalized and then they gave me some medication I still take today. I agree though that anxiety is one of those illnesses that is used by a lot of people to feel special.

No. 1099183

People with personality disorders horrify me, because they're basically vessels with brainworms and they're defined by these disorders.
They're highly predictable, but I don't wanna interact with people that are just moved by rotten brain matter and don't bother to heal/fully develop themselves. I see them as toddlers, since as PDs people are predictable, you can predict that toddlers will cry, shit, eat and sleep.

No. 1099188

>>1099183
Taking bets on which PD this nonnie has

No. 1099214

>>1099188
KEK KEK KEK

No. 1099237

>>1099188
LOL LOL LOL

No. 1099241

>>1099183
Brainworms? Back to twitter, please

No. 1099254

>>1099241
?? I meant literally worms eating their brain like parasites on a fruit?? The fuck, nonners? It's just my poor wording because I'm not a native eng speaker? Nonners please :,(

No. 1099255

>>1099254
Kys.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 1099259

>>1099254
live nonners i luv u

No. 1099260

>>1099254
I only know of brainworms in the twitter tranny sense

No. 1099264

>>1099254
Just ignore that anon.

No. 1099272

>>1099188
10 bucks say narc

No. 1099309

>>1099254
>not a native eng speaker
and? either way that worm metaphor or whatever you wanted it to be was fucking retarded.

No. 1099312

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No. 1099338

I'm starting to think Bipolars are worse than BPDs…

No. 1099342

>>1099338

they are from experience ngl. not sure if the one i encountered had something else or not though. probably anankastic personality disorder.

No. 1099344

>>1098941
This is anxiety? I’ve been calling it paranoia all this time kek i thought anxiety was “uwu i’m shy and can’t speak”

No. 1099390

Paranoia and other syndromes that make the person feel that they are being persecuted and sabotaged, it's not only insane to live with someone who constantly thinks the world actively works against then and that everyone always acts and seek to hit them then with malicious and ill intent, but you also start to become paranoid yourself after some time, and i say from experience, the backlash of doing or speaking "wrong things" to people with anxiety and ADHD are child play compared to the level of self awareness and calculated action you have to endure 24/7 when you live with someone who suffers from persecutory delusion and paranoia, since a single action or word can trigger a absolutely insane response, if you're lucky you get only a emotional reaction, but if you're unlucky, they will somehow weave into some bizarre conspiracy theory and they will make sure that this will haunt you for months/years without end, and it is extremely tiring and exhausting. Sometimes you don't even need to do shit, and just beacuse you did/didn't do something very specific related to a situation that they created into their own heads, you already are a culprit and you will have to endure some really insane bullshit for no reason at all.

No. 1099450

Holy fuck I can't stand white women that use mental illnesses to appear "omg quirky waifish manic pixie dream girl" trash.
There's this group of women I play games with that keep talking about how the autodiagnosed themselves with adhd, and how about every single expensive hobby they enter is "an obssesion".
I was almost interned into a pysch ward last year, I lost my job, and these bitches talk as if having a mental illness is some sort of fashion thing, god fucking dammit. Gotta be great being white and hetero, and needing to romantincize a bunch of shit, cause your husband doesn't pay enough attention to you and you're bored.

No. 1099453

>>1099344

It is nonna. I remember I used to puke so badly to the point my I started throwing up stomach acid, and I ended up injuring my throat because of that. It is true that anxiety is one of the most faked illneses, but actual anxiety sucks so fucking hard.

No. 1099455

>>1098547
Second this. I have an appoinment with my psychiatrist soon, and I feel like I can sum my situation with "I'm not getting worse, but I'm also not getting better"

No. 1099460

I can't deal with any weird fetishists. Fat fetishists, pedos, beastiality/furries, people who fantasize about themselves or others being hurt in bizarre ways. It's all either for attention/edge lord points. Most of them are porn addicts and knew they were porn addicts but kept digging themselves in the hole and act on a lot of it for the sake of their dick/pussy and scoring weird points.

All of these people have a million other mental illnesses but once you hear someone talk about their weird fetish it's time to block and get as far away from them as possible. I also feel like these people think they're succubis/incubis or some sort of sex demon when in reality sex demons would actually manage to arouse most of the population, not just obese internet goths

No. 1099468

>>1099450
Well, I was going to suggest hanging out with someone older. If they're already married they're too fucking old to hang onto relevance with behavioral problems they self dx'ed with.

No. 1099508

>>1099344
Yeah. The "uwu I'm shy and I can't speak" is just people being neets or introverts and just being, well, shy. The actual anxiety disorder can be very debilitating.

No. 1099703

>>1099453

Yikes I'm sorry about that nona, I used to experience the same thing. Glad you're out of it now.

No. 1099722

>>1099460
Pretty much anyone who publicly discusses their sex life or preferences is histrionic as fuck.

No. 1100634

People who talk endlessly about their CSA PTSD. Like shut the fuck up and cope.

No. 1100720

>>1100634
How much are we willing to bet you assaulted a child and are mad they spoke up about it, scrote?

No. 1100794

>>1100720
If it's not it, she's a jealous woman. I've had women who were straight up jealous when someone got raped or catcalled, assaulted, etc. They're either jealous because they deem it as a good thing to have someone so interested in you that they rape you, moid logic, or get jealous of the sympathy the victim gets.

No. 1100799


No. 1100830

>>1100799
>>1100794
>>1100720
Nta but this cope is actually laughable - somebody thinks it's cringy and attention seeking to endlessly talk about your abuse? Yes she must be a rapist or jealous that you were raped. Pure objective logic.Definitely not triggered that your twauma narrative is the only thing that makes people pay attention to you so you've centered your whole identity around it.

No. 1100832

>>1100830
Here's another one. Imagine being this sick.

No. 1100845

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>>1100830
bitch would you eat a damn cinnamon roll and calm down, anon was RAPED for fuck sakes. what does that have to do with your armchair-fagging assumptions about a mental disorder?

No. 1100846

>>1100634
You're talking about malingerers, anonette, which is a disorder per se.
Actual traumatized people are in clinic and can't even speak

No. 1100851

>>1100830
It's not wholly true in all scenarios but it can be, people have different experiences.
>Nta but this cope is laughable
Then shut the fuck up.

No. 1100853

>>1100832
i do kind of get where they're coming from as someone who has that trauma. nobody wants to hear about horrible things happening to a child unless they're a sadist or a pedophile and you run the risk of triggering other survivors putting it out in the open like that

No. 1100858

>>1100853
nobody wants to hear about those horrible things because it makes them disgusted or could trigger them. that anon though was saying nobody wants to hear them because they think it's "cringe" to talk about your CSA experiences.

No. 1100860

>>1100830
>pure objective logic
Riiiiight…

>>1100846
tbf most of them don't dare to enter clinics because by doing so they'd have to report it, which scrotes like >>1100634 think is all lying.

No. 1100864

>>1100846
Nta but how did you develop the fantasy that traumatised people cannot speak and are all in ‘clinics’?

No. 1100866

>>1100853
What you said makes sense, that other anon is acting like having actual trauma is embarrassing and an inconvenience to other people. If hearing about it makes you uncomfortable, why not just let the person know? They are comfortable enough with that person to share such a personal trauma. But the other person can't simply tell them it makes them feel uncomfortable, and would rather come to LC to complain about how this persons suffering is cringe and annoying to them. Well >>1100830 & >>1100634 why don't you shut the fuck up and cope?

No. 1100871

>>1100830
Kys.
>>1100634
You definitely raped a kid and are seething and coping that you're about to be charged aren't you?
>>1100846
>"can't even speak"
>assuming all trauma survivors can't speak and are helpless babies
Stfu.

No. 1100873

>>1100858
I don't mean cringe in the zoomer sense I mean like >>1100853 said, it's unpleasant and uncomfortable to hear about, even if you're not triggered yourself anyone with any empathy wants to avoid stories of child abuse (can't believe I have to clarify that but here we are)
To accuse anyone who doesn't want to hear it of being an abuser or jealous is irrational. As anon above said, abusers are probably the ones encouraging people to spill their guts about their horrible past on the internet instead of talking to a professional who could help them move on.

No. 1100875

>>1100866
Absolutely this (sorry for samefag). Also sounds like >>1100830 is one of those jealous types lmfao. Or just a scrote.

No. 1100877

>>1100873
>abusers are probably the ones encouraging people to spill their guts about their horrible past on the internet
To what end? Abusers don't want people to talk about their trauma, they want to act like it doesn't exist so they can keep getting away with it. And who is going into dramatic detail about their abuse/assault? I really don't think survivors are looking to give you a graphic description of what happened to them.

No. 1100878

>>1100877
>they want to act like it doesn't exist so they can keep getting away with it.
Abusers come in all shapes and sizes. Some abusers do this as you said, while some others do coax victims to share their stories. Probably for the purpose of getting themselves off, or exposing the victim's vulnerabilities so they can use that to their manipulative advantages etc.

No. 1100879

>>1100866
>If hearing about it makes you uncomfortable, why not just let the person know? They are comfortable enough with that person to share such a personal trauma
Why is everyone acting like OP said nobody should ever talk about abuse? She specifically says
>endlessly
And that excludes deep one on one conversations where it's brought up naturally. To me endlessly talking about it means blogging about it Soren stylez on Twitter/tumblr/discord out of the blue.

No. 1100882

>>1100878
>Abusers come in all shapes and sizes. Some abusers do this as you said, while some others do coax victims to share their stories
This. Why do so many anons here think abuse is just one method or intention?

No. 1100886

>>1100882
Because they're underage and/or twitterfags who struggle with black and white thinking.

No. 1100888

>>1100882
Why are there anons who think abuse survivors "don't speak" or are cringe for talking about their own lives?

No. 1100889

>>1100878
I have no dog in this race but I do agree with this
>while some others do coax victims to share their stories
It's hard for the average mind to think so viciously, but a lot of these sociopaths get off on their victims being made to revisit their trauma, and basically re-live it if you will. They love to hear how their actions have impacted someone so profoundly and that they're such a major presence in that person's life that it is still talked and thought about even with time passed.
Secondly, abusers like it when their victims who have "grey area" details and stories come out because other people will bring up doubt. In this way they become vindicated because outsiders (sometimes innocently) poke holes in the victim's story and become blamed for what happened to them. The abuser doesn't have to do any of the legwork to invalidate the victim's narrative because other people will do it for them. It's like hitting the jackpot if they abuse someone mentally ill, ugly, weak, or unliked.

No. 1100890

>>1100886
Oh dang, looks like you cracked the code, genius.

No. 1100893

>>1100879
Why are you acting as though it's hard or an inconvenience to just say "I'm sorry, I'm not comfortable with this conversation"?

No. 1100912

>>1100871
I meant speaking about it, retard. People with actual cptsd don't random trauma dump for personality points.

No. 1101649

>>1099460
Fetishes should never be normalised, and I'm so sick of people crying about kinkshaming or whatever word they come up with next. Some of it is straight up abuse.
One that genuinely scares me is ddlg and its variants. It's literally pedophilia with glitter drizzled on it, for scrotes who can't legally fuck children so they go for adults who act like children 24/7. It also says a lot that they pick trauma victims who age regress to cope, or freshly turned 18 year olds.

No. 1101929

>>1100830
See? I was right. She's jealous the victim will get sympathy and attention.

No. 1101942

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>>1100634
>>1100830
Interesting. Is there a reason you did not mention abuse ptsd, but specifically csa?

No. 1101943

>>1101942
Maybe >>1100720 is right?

No. 1101958

>>1101942
Because those anons assuming they're not samefagging are both pedos

No. 1101962

>>1099460
>>1101649

This probably belongs more on the kinkshaming thread but I will never understand people who can't comprehend the idea that fetishes that involve body waste are nasty.
There's a reason that normal people think they're disgusting, it's because they're bodily waste products that should be disposed of. It's a basic biological tactic. If you don't think they are, your brain is genuinely fucked up.
Fetishistic disorders and paraphilic disorders exist in the DSM and ICD, but either these creeps can't read or can't get their faces out of their obese partners' diapers.

No. 1101964

>>1101958
>>1101962
God I'm a retard I ended up samefagging myself kek sorry nonas

No. 1101965

>>1101964
Yours isn't comparable to what they did, though.

No. 1101968

>>1101962
Can't believe we have to explain this shit (pun perhaps intended) anymore.
>can't get their faces out of their obese partners' diapers
This made me chuckle. Though are you sure they're not just straight up eating them off?
>>1101964
Happens to the best of us nonita

No. 1101987

>>1101962
Retards who participate in prolapse, shit play, whatever and end up getting sick and fucking their bodies up because of it are just natural selection

It's not a naturally occurring fetish (outside of sniffing but that is just sniffing and not literal waste) it's always from porn. Imagine getting e coli for a fetish kek

No. 1102022

>>1101987
>prolapse
Please don't…

No. 1102025

>>1101987
I won't bother finding it but I saw some Reddit post about a woman's uterus getting infected and needing a hysterectomy because of scat play. Was praying it was fake. You get what you fucking deserve I guess

No. 1102027

>>1101987
AHHH prolapse is the absolute worst. I knew a bonafide female who ended up being into it thanks to porn. Just what… the… fuck… It makes me want to punch them for being so degenerate, and I am a gentle person.

No. 1102052

>>1102025
I guess bacteria don't exist anymore…and neither will I because every time I hear about something like this I wanna fucking kms
>>1102027
How do you even make yourself do it? It sounds like a lot of straight up traumatic injury.

No. 1103065

>>1102052
I hope all prolapsefags get kidney obstruction or infection. They fucking deserve it at this point.

No. 1115611

>>1101987
> prolapse, shit play
I had an ex who hid it for 3 years, I spent the whole relationship thinking he was about as normal as a scrote can be sexually. Never requested weird shit, didn't appear to have the time to be watching porn. We had sex often and it was all good. Lived together, never felt anything off. For 2 years post break up I carried on still thinking he wasn't a degenerate. He was a cheat right at the end but apart from that lol. Being cheated on when you fuck daily is an extra level of insulting. Like what was the need?

I eventually went on sites that give you tips for snooping. Tbh I just wanted to see if him and that woman were still happily together because seeing an affair 'pay off' sucks as the partner left behind.. I ended up finding a whole load of extreme 'ass destruction' accounts that he ran. Gaping, anal prolapse, womb prolapse?? people left fecally incontinent. He has a porn sharing website, he has affiliate links for porn, a twitter account centred around it, he used message boards to brag about his gf taking two fists at once.. and him being on the receiving end too! There were clips of people shitting on horse sized dildos. Stuff I couldn't even bare to see for a second. Wide open people, bright red insides and some shit spinkled in here and there. Suddenly the appeal of this other woman made sense to me because she has an account where she's not active but somewhat participates. So this guy kept me in the dark all that time knowing I'm not down for any of that. Then he stumbled upon a similar flavor of degenerate where he can run porn sites with her blessing and brag about her gape online day in and day out. He's not sharing clips of her doing it but actual bottom of the barrel porn stars who accept a cheque to make these scenes. It doesn't take a genius to see that even women partaking in this are either doing it for cash or to please at the expense of their long term health.

As far as I can tell he didn't set up all those accounts til he was already with her but it's disturbing that he had those desires sitting dormant while living with me for years and then he rushed to set up an extensive catalogue of his fave prolapses online as soon as he was out the door. This is the guy I confided my own sexual trauma to. Finding that rabbithole has me questioning if you can ever relax and trust men when it comes to having genuine intimacy with you and them not just picturing sick shit throughout the normal sex acts you practice. Could be worse I guess, I could be risking pissing and shitting myself for a mans fetish or going elbow deep in his unprepped ass.

No. 1115644

>>1115611
How did you find those stuff? Also happy you got rid of him, degenerate men can turn out to be violent and try to enforce their kinks when they think they trapped a woman.

No. 1115663

>>1115611
This was a horrifying read, I'm sorry you had to go through this. Good riddance of the degenerate scrote

No. 1115665

>>1115611
Jesus christ, anon. You're a very descriptive writer, I almost wish I hadn't read this
It's good that him and his poor, doomed asshole are out of your life

No. 1115675

>>1115611
Please lord almighty make me unread this post.

No. 1115680

>>1115611
God ducking dammit anon, I puked a little reading this… you def dodged a bullet here

No. 1118338

Male autists. I know they probably can't help it, but they're impossible to get to fuck off sometimes and can be overly creepy. Female autists though, I've had some pretty good friendships with them ngl.

No. 1118354

>>1118338
This. Female autists being classified in the same group as male ones makes no sense to me whatsoever. One is more likely to get hurt while other is to hurt you compared to average of their gender and yadda yadda.

No. 1118505

>>1118338
From experience, female autists are greatly empathetic and understanding. It's sad that it's just known for what unwashed moids with it do.
>>1118354
Females are underdiagnosed with it because the criteria is based off males, so any female who gets diagnosed is lumped in with the scrotes.

No. 1118544

>>1118354
Depends, I went to middle school witha female autist and a male autist and the female autist was way more violent than anyone in the entire school combined. And she was high functioning (supposedly). I'm surprised she wasn't expelled for beating up a few guys completely out of nowhere and having meltdowns once a week. The male autist was bullied despite blending in but that's probably because he was 2 years older than us and went to therapy very early to be taught how to deal with his autism which is why he was 2 years behind everyone else. So yeah it really depends on each person I'm guessing.

No. 1118550

Is it possible for someone to be only diagnosed with autism as an adult?

No. 1118564

>>1118550
Yes. Happens to women who didn’t act out their autism severely enough to be noticed as retarded boys do.

No. 1118567

>>1118544
In general make autists are way more violent anon

No. 1118568


No. 1118609

>>1118338
Male autists are insufferable. I have one in my uni class and he makes it impossible for others to concentrate because he also has weird tics.

No. 1118631

>>1118544
Press x to doubt.

No. 1118672

>>1118550
Very much possible for girls whose obvious symptoms were never noticed or dismissed

No. 1118698

>>1118567
Male autists are also always sexual deviants.

No. 1118719

>>1118567
Yeah, in general. Which means that there are also exceptions to the rule, and given what I saw myself I can tell you that even though they might not be the majority some female autists are public danger and should be locked up as much as most male autists should be.

No. 1118723

>>1118719
>women being public danger.
Sounds like scrotebait. How can a mentally ill woman do any damage, especially towards men? Read research about autisric males, they're literally more likely to be hypersexual rapists and literal proud pedos/zoophile/necrophiles.
>>1118698
This. Parahphilias and porn addiction is very common with autistic men. They also pretend not to be able to understand when a woman turns down their advances so rape is common too.

No. 1118725

>>1118719
Ngl sometimes I wish I could just go ape shit tard rage like those bitches

No. 1118728

>>1118723
nta but stop taking shit out of context and calling anons scrotes for no reason.

No. 1118733

>>1118723
Nta but autistic little girls can cause some damage to other kids her age. That’s the extent of public menace I’ve witnessed. A severely autistic woman is usually too doped up to be an active threat to her caretakers. Usually.

No. 1118762

>>1118728
>given what I saw myself I can tell you that even though they might not be the majority some female autists are public danger and should be locked up as much as most male autists should be.
>female autists are public danger and should be locked up as much as most male autists should be.
Her own words.
>>1118733
Read above. While I agree they could be dangerous as kids, anon wanted autistic women to be locked up as adults, which I don't think is fair considering that they wouldn't ever pose as much danger as a male autist would.

No. 1118764

>>1118723
>everyone who disagree with me is a scote!!1!
Lol anyway. The reason why I said public danger is because the girl was way taller and bigger than everyone else in our class and would knock out classmate unprompted. I remember once when we were waiting outside our classroom after recess for the teacher to let us in and everyone was calm for once, and she just went to one of the shorter guy with no warning and for no apparent reason and beat his head against the wall until he passed out and an ambulance was called. That was the worst, usually she'd beat up people but not that badly. She never did anything to me and she liked me for some reason so at some point she invited me to her place and I saw that her parents were the granola vegan type who don't believe in modern medicine or some shit, which explained a lot. They thought paying a lot to make their autist child go to a catholic school so she could pray in the nearby chapel after classes every Wednesday afternoon would heal her and they took me aside and asked me to help her heal too. Really weird shit.

>>1118733
>A severely autistic woman is usually too doped up to be an active threat to her caretakers
And that would imply that she would be doped up in the first place.

No. 1118769

>>1118762
NTA but I really like how you quoted the entire paragraph, and then requoted specifically leaving out the key word “some”. It was very transparent of you, thanks.

No. 1118930

I don't believe "tic disorders" are real. It seems all like an excuse for your child to be loud and disruptive, and for adults to curse and say racist shit and say "oh I can't help it it comes out".

No. 1118934

>>1118930
anon…..

No. 1118936

>>1118930
I wish that was true. I had a tic growing up where I would open my mouth really wide. I didn’t want to do it but holding it in was like holding in a cough when you’re really sick. Got so bad that my jaw always hurt, there were big creases on my face, and I had open sores on either side of my mouth. Was totally ostracized by my peers for it, obviously. It improved as I got older but was still a problem until adulthood when I found a medicine that almost completely stops the urge. I have nothing but sympathy when I see people with tics.

No. 1118938

>>1118936
What medicine? I don't have tics but I'm curious. Sorry you went through that anon.

No. 1118942

>>1118938
Guanfacine. It’s an off-label use for it; it’s mainly intended to treat high blood pressure but I would 100% recommend it to anyone in my shoes. Also has the side effect of stopping the night sweats I have that no doctor has been able to diagnose. Dunno why but I’m happy it does.

No. 1118950

I have no time for men with ADHD. They are literal man children who are always late, can't plan anything, too impulsive, won't respect personal space, rude, and hypersexual. I just can't deal with them!

No. 1118954

>>1100888
Because some of us rather not dump our issues into other people.

No. 1118955

>>1118930
Go back to Reddit or something retard.
>>1118936
Sorry about that anonita. Glad to hear you found some treatment for it too.

No. 1118984

bpd moids. i do feel for women who have bpd since i have ptsd and it isn't their fault that their trauma manifested in a different way than mine did (let me know if i'm being naive or not) but men who have it are irredeemable imo. they're far more destructive to people around them and they should be avoided as much as you'd avoid a narc or antisocial scrote

No. 1118990

Sometimes I also can't deal with people with autism, it's tiring having to cater to them due to their lack of social cues or processing issues. Then you have to spend time explaining things to them and caring through them throughout their meltdowns. It's fustrating.

No. 1118996

>>1118984
I don't blame you. BPD men are in the legal system because their extreme emotions lead them to drug dealing and violence. Lived next door to one, he through a chair at my door and screamed at it while on a bad trip. They should be in a mental hospital or in jail.

No. 1119007

>>1118990
you morons need to stop grouping all people on a spectrum together. Trust me the high functioning autists don't need your half-assed catering.

No. 1119018

>>1119007
Yes, but it's a mental disorder I can't stand.

No. 1119019

female autists misunderstand that just because they could never be the chris-chan rapey exclusively male type of autist, doesn't mean that they aren't almost equally as goddamn annoyin, god bles

No. 1119022

>>1119019
It depends, people usually dismiss signs of autism in women and therefore discipline them if they act up because of it, men with autism are often sent straight to therapy, coddled and handed everything throughout life

People forgot that people on the spectrum/ mentally ill NEED to be disciplined a lot more through instead of just people blowing off their behaviors as "teehee they're just mentally ill", autistic girls are just treated as like they're just difficult children so they're a lot more tame

I do know a few autistic girls who've obviously had every single autistic whim handed to them and holy fuck God help them. I miss the days when people who were too mentally unstable to function were locked away in their own community

No. 1119542

>>1119007
There really should be seperate terms to stop everyone being lumped into one category.. but they got rid of the term aspergers and now people are saying even 'high functioning' is an offensive term that hurts low functioning tists lol? I hate that all distinction is being erased out of fear of offending people.

It's a wide spectrum.. but you're not allowed tell anyone where you lay on that spectrum, just that you're on it. How progressive.

No. 1119579

Hypochondriacs are the most insufferable people. Is there any hope for them?

No. 1119649

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>>1119542
honestly this all pisses me off, im on the spectrum but i have near no social issues, always had friends, etc im a little bit awkward and nerdy sure but some people just are yknow? At a handful points in life i was even part of the "popular" crew in college or school.
Near all my symptoms are "physical" so to speak, i have what is technically sensory processing disorder, but that's not a REAL diagnosis so i get slapped on the autism label and i have to deal with it because i need accomodation at work sometimes.

No. 1119672

i used to be an anxious, neurotic little bitch until i started thinking that if depression is anger turned inward, what is anxiety if not narcissism turned inwards? it normalpilled me completely. i can't look at anxious people in the same way anymore. being that preoccupied with yourself is embarrassing

No. 1119678

>>1119672
yeah that's pretty stupid. plenty of people's anxiety is not specifically about them but just about chaos in general and more generalized or rooted in instability and abuse growing up that is extremely difficult to turn off. do you think like, abused, anxious dogs are narcs too or something?

No. 1119687

>>1119678
i meant social anxiety but even so, yeah, getting upset about stuff you can't control is narc shit, nonny. you're smarter than a dog, right?

No. 1119695

>>1119649
>>etc im a little bit awkward and nerdy sure but some people just are yknow?

That's fine, I had friends like that. People grow and change and I outgrown nerdy. It's nothing personal.

No. 1119701

Low empathy intellectuals who think they’ve come to some conclusion that makes them better. You’re not you’re just a heartless dick head and have narcissism light.

No. 1119720

>>1119672
sort of in the same vein, people who are too selfloathing and extremely insecure about themselves, it's just a sort of self-absorbed narcissism to me. it's all me me me.

No. 1119730

>>1119579
I fucking can't with the covid hypochondriacs or old white people who think having medium rare steak will give them 5 different parasites, it's even funnier when they end up hurting themselves because of them being a hypochondriac. I know a guy whos constantly anxious about bladder issues and takes like 20 minutes to pee because of his anxiety, we are de-evolving as a species

No. 1120007

>>1119687
How is that narc shit? You sound like a person who says everyone you don't like is cluster B

No. 1120167

All of them when they're in males. Little or none of them with they're in females.

No. 1120170

>>1120167
This. For women, it's forgivable and with men I can't help but think "You probably deserve this, and if not you would have ended up deserving it anyway." I'd never say this out loud but damn it's my kneejerk reaction and opinion.

No. 1120440

>>1120167
The issue is that men are that much more inclined to lash outwards when they have any internal issue. If you are violent or abusive then I'm not going to let you off because depression/alcoholism/tism/trauma etc. It's not a free pass to be controlling or a pervert and it doesn't mean you're owed an eternally patient super gf or for every female relative to drop everything and coddle you. 'Hurt men' who in turn hurt others (but have absolutely no empathy for their own victims) make me sceptical of alot of their claims.

Even on here the relationship threads are full of suicide baiting abusive bfs. Women who just want to dump them and move on but they stay for an extra year out of some feeling of duty to a grown man. They do nothing to get help, they milk their depression to get what they want so why would they change.

No. 1120614

I hate that we’re embracing autism now. We can’t even hate them and their fucking behavior without being slapped with the word “ableism”. Autistic people don’t need coddling, they need a fucking punch to the face sometimes. Human beings are social, even the most crazy ass hermit likes to socialize once in awhile, having a social deficit is not something to embrace especially when autists love to shoot up their schools, love ruining their families, killing people, raping their own mothers, it’s disgraceful. A lot of them act out because they know in their mind that their behavior is not even the slightest normal. Was I ever given a pass for being rightfully angry at one of those things? No, I had to always amend my words and be “patient and understanding” when the fuckers wanted to terrorize people. Some autistic people have terrible personalities or none at all, some are sociopathic. And by autistic people I mostly mean men, because women who claim to be autistic just because they don’t think they fulfill female gender roles enough aren’t and I seriously think autism just gives you the brain of a fucked up emotionally deficient man.

No. 1120622

>>1120614
Sex pest male autists are my least fave flavor of autist. Do their parents not sit them down and train them not to harrass women? If I were cursed with a male autist son that'd be task number one based on my past interactions with them.

No. 1120634

>>1120622
They never do and you wanna know why?

>”my son can never do anything wrong!”

No. 1120689

>>1120614
Speaking of, I remember working in retail with a literal retard and to this day I don't know if he was very autistic or not. He wasn't violent though but I had to babysit all the time him on top of dealing with crazy customers.

No. 1121697

>>1120622
I'm pretty sure they enable their son cause of "muh autism"

No. 1121741

I'm genuinely convinced "fat activists" and those who scream about "fatphobia" is some kind of delusional disorder. Same logic as flat-earthers.

No. 1121747

>>1120622
There's one in my neighborhood who harrasses women all the time. He would even do it to my coworkers and I at my old job. Everyone hates him. He also sometimes does a kamehameha to random people on the street.

No. 1121753

>>1121741
Samefag but I'm absolutely disgusted that the current mental health community is now supporting people with paraphilias. Like full on pedophilia and other nasty fetishes like body waste.
"Stop being ableist towards people with paraphilias!!1!" We'll see when they rape you and all the children in your family, shit and piss all over you, and then cannibalise your body. Then they display your remains everywhere and then say it's just their little kink uwu and that you're oh so kinkshaming!!1!
Fucking electric chair.

No. 1121773

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bump

No. 1121847

The mental disorder that comes with the Y chromosome

No. 1121863

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men/males/xy/ etc

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>>1121847
Frankly they should all be exterminated

No. 1122604

>>1121870
Sometimes I wish it was just us females and we'd reproduce by bone marrow, you know?

No. 1125291

I'm surprised nobody's mentioned DID/OSDD, or the mental illness that comes with faking it.
I do believe it does exist, even "introjects" of characters seem possible in rare cases, but not even close to the extent that terminally online people with hundreds of Danganronpa and Genshin introjects are saying they do.
Also, there's a recent thing they've come up with called "endogenic system" to justify them faking, basically someone who was born with alters and has no trauma, and they'll pull the "ableism" card if you say that you cannot physically dissociate without some degree of trauma and say that decades of research doesn't equate to their Tumblr bullshit.

No. 1125316

>>1125291
It's because Munchies are a bit banal.
Dissociadid is still active tho lol

No. 1125326

>>1125291
>I do believe it does exist
this was your first mistake

No. 1125366

>>1125291
You sound like the average poster in fakedisordercringe. Where you have to respect everybody's neopronouns and that DID DOES exist but it's just these particular videos that are fake. The mental gymnastics they have to go through to make fun of people in a woke way must be very exhausting I just keep it simple

No. 1125370

>>1125291
>>1125366
Can you elaborate on this? How is everyone with DID faking it. Genuinely curious

No. 1125376

>>1125370
>>1125291
Nta but that portrayal of DID doesn’t exist. No one who is mindbroken to the point of actual DID is online and faggy like anime munchies. They probably live horrible solitary lives fueled with drugs and institutionalization or homelessness.

No. 1125381

I dont know if alcoholism counts as a mental illness but i've had it since I was 15 (more than a decade now) and its ruined so much of my life. I've been to psychiatrists, and AA and talked to therapists online but nothing has helped. I still have this addiction and I seem to always fall into it. Maybe its part of BPD or some shit I don't know, all I know is that this shit sucks and I can't seem to get rid of it and stop embarrassing myself.

No. 1125385

>>1125380
Alcohol is one of the worst addictions anon. I’m so sorry you’re struggling with something so terrible. Idk how to help you to be honest. Have you had good instances of sobriety? Yeah I’m sure your addiction has complex relationship with BPD, which is bad but for sure salvageable, speaking from experience.

No. 1125389

>>1125376
This. I don't understand or agree with anyone who says DID itself is false (it makes perfect sense to suffer bouts of amnesia following out-of-character behaviors when severely traumatized), but there are lots of weebs and attention whores who pretend to have it

No. 1125390

>>1125385
I have yes, I went 3 months without all that shit. But then I went into hospital for a problem unrelated to alcohol and recently a family member of mine died, and I feel so helpless because my bf has just got an awesome job and I want to be so supportive but my addiction to drinking and being away from my 'emotions' takes over so much… its so bad and it makes everyone around me so sad on my behalf.

No. 1125434

>>1125366
I think what anon meant was more what >>1125376 is saying. It sounds logically plausible but nobody who actually has it has the energy and time to talk about it constantly and LARP it online. Also nobody there or here respects neopronouns kek.

No. 1125441

>>1125381
Maybe you shouldn't have started drinking when underage. Only weak and pathetic people get addicted to drugs and alcohol. Go cry about it on another thread or sperg on Tumblr.

No. 1125442

>>1125441
nta but who hurt you

No. 1125453

>>1125441
You are retarded and probably a moid.

No. 1125457

>>1125453
>>1125442
Why don't you read previous anons on this thread and how there's little sympathy for druggies and addicts in general.

No. 1125459

>>1125381
Stop buying alcohol and stop blaming it on your bee pee dee. Easy.

No. 1125462

>>1125459
this isn't /pt you fucking retard

No. 1125463

>>1125459
4chan moid spotted

No. 1125466

>>1125441
I've had an awful life growing up as an immigrant, my first bf sexually assaulted me and got me addicted to smoking and drugs. Its not easy to just 'get over it' you idiot, i've fucking tried thats why im on this thread to try and see if I can get some advice.

No. 1125468

>>1125463
Or a 12 year old kek.

>>1125466
Yikes I'm so sorry about that nonita. Hope that scrote goes to hell if there is one. Have you tried lowering the amounts you indulge in the drugs little by little to avoid symptoms of withdrawal?

No. 1125480

>>1125466
Have you been to rehab, anon? Inpatient care might be more helpful than AA meetings.

No. 1125483

>>1125468
Thanks anon. I have a really nice and supportive bf now who actually respects my boundaries and doesn't drink or do drugs or smoke. I have tried lowering consumption and as I said in a last post, I was okay for a few months but with alcoholism/drug addiction there is always something in your life that makes you relapse. I've tried psychologists everything under the sun and nothing prevents me from relapsing months later. It's an awful feeling and I have no idea how to combat it.

No. 1125484

>>1125481
Aw, glad to hear about your current partner.
Does anything cause your cravings to go up? Identifying those certain possible triggers could help as the first step. I tried to monitor my progress and praise myself on reaching little goals too, it helped with motivation.

No. 1125486

>>1125466
Anon it's a moid and he's probably too dumb to understand. Don't tell stuff like that because you don't have to, you don't need excuses foe your problems and you don't have to apologize for having those problems. You're doing the right thing by admitting you have issues and slowly trying to fix them, addictions and mental health problems don't go away overnight, don't be rough on yourself.

No. 1125492

>>1125484
Sorry anon I keep writing typos and deleting my posts autistically lol
Everything is a trigger in my mind honestly. Being aware that im an outsider or my medical problems or the guilt that i go through when i embarrass myself in front of people.. it ends up too much for me to handle you know?
>>1125486
thanks anon, you're sweet. just your post is enough for me to remember next time I go for a drink honestly, hearing kind words like that really helps in a world of people who just want to 'fix you'

No. 1125495

>>1125492
>Being aware that im an outsider or my medical problems or the guilt that i go through when i embarrass myself in front of people
Absolute relate. Unfortunately I'm not really sure what other advice to give. Personally, I tried eating as healthy as I could and exercising a lot, it made me forget my addictions and their symptoms. Not sure if this is mentally healthy for everyone though.

No. 1125503

>>1125495
thankyou anon. I've been considering the local pool for months now. I really want to join and actually leave my house and be normal, its just so hard to break a habit thats been so deeply established for years. ugh

No. 1125506

>>1125495
samefag but I hope you achieved some mental fortitude from eating healthy and getting fit, I KNOW it works and I am proud to hear of other anons doing it. You inspire me friend

No. 1125742

>>1125506
I wish you good luck anon! Hopefully you can join that, it seems pretty fun. I'm not sure what other advice works but that seems like a good plan.

No. 1125751

Anyone else struggle with anxiety and panic attacks? I've tried so many SSRI's and therapy, but nothing helps. My doctor thinks its my subconscious because literally nothing is happening when they come on. Like I will just be sitting there watching tv or be in bed on my phone and bam, heartrate through the fucking roof and adrenaline to the max for no reason.
I also struggle with insomnia which my doctor also most likely attributes to my anxiety, even though I don't even feel anxious at all what so ever when I'm at home.
I've tried so many different sleeping pills but nothing works when I go through my insomnia episodes which can last between 2 weeks to months, then it just randomly goes away and I sleep just fine until it decides to show it face again for no reason.

I'm literally going insane.

No. 1125886

>>1125751
>My doctor thinks its my subconscious because literally nothing is happening when they come on
Technically isn't that the same with like, every other disorder? Sometimes they just happen and it's not really rationally explained by something external. It's just the whole aspect of anxiety itself that does this.
I dealt with my anxiety by constantly forcing myself to go on walks outside and it helped a little. Good luck though nona, that sounds so scary

No. 1125905

>>1125751
as cliche as it may sound, breathing exercises. do you know why they're effective? breathing is our direct link between the conscious and subconscious mind. what can be regulated subconsciously or consciously can allow the conscious to regulate the subconscious. control your breathing at a rate that indicates extreme calm and your subconscious will accept what that breathing rate dictates. an example is box breathing. breath in across 4 counts. hold it in for 4 counts. exhale across 4 counts. hold it out for 4 counts. start the box again.

No. 1125931

i hate anachans (source: anachan)

No. 1125948

>>1125751
I second >>1125905, do lots of square breathing if you don’t already.

No. 1126009

>>1125905
Nayrt but that's some great info nona, thanks for taking the time to write that.

No. 1126275

>>1125381
Cope better.
Remind that no one is forcing you to buy that shit. Addicts arent' welcome here.
If you were broke you would stop being an addict, is that simple. Find some other ways to cope with life, get a hobby.

No. 1127252

>>1126275
Scrote spotted.

No. 1127260

>>1126275
truly hope you're a man because if not you're a dumbfuck. this is the mental disorders thread for a reason

No. 1127307

>>1126275
Look at this edgy attempt at contrarian and reactionary attitude to stand out from the overt coddling addicts get in woke spaces.
>If you were broke you would stop being an addict
Average male IQ everybody.

No. 1127750

Whenever a scrote has any disorder, it's pretty irritating for me. On the other hand, I feel like I could handle a woman with anything, even something like NPD kek. As previous anons have stated, women are just less inclined to lash out at others. If anything they usually internalise it more, which tends to lead to more self-awareness from experience.

No. 1127943

>>1127750
Women are less prone to violence, and when they ARE violent they have much less capacity for destruction than a 200lb 6ft scrote. Mentally ill people are hard to deal with overall but (in general) mentally ill men are FAR more dangerous than mentally ill women.

No. 1127962

I hate men with 'anxiety'. I tried dating some and they just whine and whine and whine. I'm quite depressed and lightly anxious myself (diagnosed many years ago, therapy/meds helped and I learnt to cope and mask well) and I generally internalise and never burden my partner with it. Short time partners won't even notice, long-time partners won't have to deal with anything because I get myself help and deal with it. Scrotes on the other hand don't even have the actual diagnosis, maybe at most get some benzos from family doctor and use their mental problems as a reason to put so much emotional burden on you from the first interaction with them.
And so many will straight up say they're introverted, depressed and anxious while actually when you get to know them well, you find out they're social and loud pub fuckboys who actually shit on mentally ill people and will judge you hard if they catch a whiff of any actual mental problems on you. The only 'depressed' thing about them is usually their aesthetic and that they think they can nonstop vent to you and expect you to argue with their self-deprecating shit said obviously as a fishing for compliments or manipulation to get them stay with you. I seriously have quite a lot of experience with guys of this flavour, there's so many. ~Depressed~ or ~anxious~ for the aesthetic and for the benefit of being able to nonstop burden their surroundings while not even having an actual diagnosis and being disgusted when faced with real issues mental illness has.
I don't doubt there are actually depressed and anxious men and I hate those too, they always externalise all their shit and put the burden on you.

No. 1128111

someone joked about me being autistic and I was really offended by that because I dislike autistic men, I'm not nearly so rude.

No. 1128420

Not sure if it's classified as any mental illness but some forms of religious heresy should certainly be. Ones where they believe wholeheartedly in controlling and abusing women all in the name of their god.

No. 1128438

>>1127962
if you're a bit fucked in the head, there's only two options to find a man that makes you genuinely happy. And that is either someone who was always more or less a normie or someone who recovered and actually overcame his anxieties. My BF used to be unable to leave the house or just talk to cashiers when he was in HS and used to be fat also and when he lost weight decided to lose his whole personality also. So he understands the struggle and doesn't judge, however does not burden you and help you overcome your own also. The one who is normie from the start would need a bit extra empathy to understand truly what you go through, but is also manageable. Don't fall for the meme of muh broken boi aestehtics - they're losers!

No. 1128469

>>1128420
It technically counts as a form of trauma that they don't know is trauma. Or it's just scroteism when the men do it, kek.

No. 1128491

>>1127943
This. Testosterone literally induces more aggressive and violent behaviour

No. 1130437

My sister has BPD and it's really unbearable. You can't tell her to do anything, even in a nice way. If we get into an argument because she didn't do her chores or something she will take it as a personal attack and threaten self harm.

No. 1130606

>>935356
I didn't think anyone else had thoughts like the elevator thing you mentioned. I have paranoia related delusions about things going wrong because of me like an elevator failing when I get in or when people are behind me my head always tells me that they are going to shoot me or that people are listening to me through microphones in my room and collecting data on me so that they can make everyone in my life hate me.

No. 1130653

Autism. My older brother has it and he's a nightmare, he molested me when we were kids but that's not even what I hate him most for. He's completely immature and stupid and has no empathy for anyone else. Plus his behaviour is extremely annoying and embarassing, it was so hard for me to make any friends in school because he would humiliate me for fun. As a kid he could do whatever he wanted to me, harassing me until I had breakdowns and would start screaming and freaking out, and I was just expected to be patient with him and he was never punished for anything. Now that he's an adult he verbally abuses my mom (the only person who still tries to help him) and he had to be kicked out of the house because he would try to kill me and my younger siblings. All autistic men I've met have been pedos for some reason too. It's awful to say but I avoid autistic men like the plague, I find them disturbing and I just can't deal with them. Autistic women are fine, I have several autistic female friends and none of them are like this. But something about the Y chromosome and autism together is unbearable to me.

No. 1131069

>>1130653
>he molested me when we were kids
>he would try to kill me and my younger siblings.
Anonita I'm so sorry you had to deal with that.
>Autistic women are fine, I have several autistic female friends and none of them are like this
Sameeee. The female autists I've met are all pretty nice, we could have lasting conversations and usually were extremely empathetic. What happened to the other gender I'll never understand.

No. 1131142

>>1125751
>>1125381
Just an fyi nonnies and future ones, take this to the Mental Illness thread in /g/. This thread is meant for hating on mental illnesses, not looking for advice on your own

No. 1131249

I have autism myself but I can't stand a lot of other autistic people, they are so exhausting to be around.

Sorry for blogposting but I never had a meltdown once, I was never violent to anybody and went through so much stupid shit, other kids humiliating me for funsies, being called manipulative for crying under stress (silently, mind you), Yet I still tried my hardest to be empathetic to neurotypicals even though they would never put in the same effort, I had to break down my entire logic and way of thinking to build a new one that was satisfying to others which made me mentally unstable. Even now I have to stand noisy and smelly people all day long without complaining.

But it seems like some others who are very often male just can't be assed with any kind of decency and think of themselves as too good for life. They grew up with enabling parents who always let them have their way and never disciplined them properly, so they are shameless and can't behave. Such little improvement was demanded from them that they became completely stupid, but their ego is still gigantic. You have to walk on eggshells constantly because they lose their temper over the most minor stuff. And the younger genderspecial girls who grew up with readily available ressources on autism are getting so entitled, acting as if not letting them stim 24/7 is oppression. They only care about themselves and being stupid hiki neets forever. Not doing weird shit all day long isn't as hard as they say it is. Autism isn't an excuse for everything. Thank god there are still decent autistic women here and there.

sage bc maybe this is more suited for the vent thread.

No. 1131250

>>1130437
Same here, nonny. My sister has it, too. She always expects people to empathise with her, but it's so difficult when she acts like a literal toddler in the body of an adult. Any minor disagreement will cause a full-on tantrum. So frustrating.

No. 1131297

>>1131249
Nonita I love you. Completely agree, and I'm sorry you had to go through that shit when younger.

No. 1131302

>>1131142
not either of those anons but damn i literally missed this whole time that this is a hate thread because i never had the inclination to use it.

No. 1131342

>>1131249
Same here. I got a late diagnosis not that long ago and I want to stay closeted about it. I just can't see the childish stroppy behaviours of other adult autists without feeling second hand embarrassment and shame. I'm talking about people who can do better and not more severe cases obviously.

I told very few people and lately I've had thoughts about how I wish I could take back anyone knowing. I don't want to be in any way linked to the people who spend their days living with their parents at 30, playing with toys and screaming about how hard life is cuz 'tism and nazis' or whatever boogeyman they think they're up against. I get that the sensory side sucks but this imagined victimhood is too much. People who've had the most allowances made for them.. are the same ones screaming bloody murder about how unfair the world is and how the whole of society needs to be hyperaware of autism at all times. No.

No. 1131379

This is a symptom not an illness but I avoid people with extensive self harm scars. If you carve yourself up to that extent then sorry you are irreparably mentally ill

No. 1131465

>>1131379
What do you consider to be "extensive"?

No. 1131473

Everyone rags on ASPD and BPD Cluster B but seem to ignore how fucking unbearable HPDs are. Try being in a group chat with one. You cannot say a damn thing around them without interrupting and making it all about them, and not in the trying to relate to you way, the one-upping way. Try having any sort of issue, they will ignore you and just derail the conversation to talk about how awesome they are and post irrelevant selfies and videos of themselves for no reason. And yes, they threaten suicide too, just in a different way from BPDs. I was stuck in a group chat with an HPD HSTS some years back and wanted to blow my brains out. I hope I never cross paths with one ever again. HPDs might actually take the cake on this. They are so transparent and yet normies will eat up their attention-whoring for some reason because 'they're so much fun'. Snakes in the grass just like ASPDs but they have the eccentric personality that draws people in.

No. 1138956

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Psychotics and their supporters. How the fuck are you supposed to "validate" their feefees and not play along with their delusions that they're some demonic spirit from hell while you're a predator or some shit?

No. 1138966

>>1138956
This feels like it could be a subtle terfpost lek

No. 1138973

>>1138956
As someone who has psychotic episodes, this kind of shit can be unironically deadly depending on what the delusions are. You need to be locked in a hospital while you're psychotic, no ifs or buts. Listening and being kind can only go so far.

No. 1138983

>>1138956
A few years ago I went to hospital after being attacked by a scrote, my nerves were in bits and I was surprised they took me inpatient. Never thought I'd see the inside of a psych unit but ok. I was on a small 5/6 person ward and one of the guys believed he was Superman. Everyone, staff and patients alike would tell him he's not.. this went on for weeks/months. He had already been there for months before me and when I left he was still in there half thinking he's clark kent. His brother would show up every day and it was painful. I did not think psychosis could run thay deep given he was a zombie from the meds but he couldn't shake it. At no point did anything dream of playing into such an unfortunate but retarded delusion.

No. 1139007

Anyone here have trich?

No. 1139992

I hate alcoholics and I hate how socially acceptable alcoholism is compared to other addictions and disorders. My mother was an alcoholic before she got pregnant with me, my father is one, my uncles are alcoholics and their wives too, which is why I've never been a fan of drinking alcohol. People assume that I must be a former alcoholic myself, because the idea of just not wanting to drink alcohol is too far-fetched in this alcohol obsessed society. Alcoholics are aggressive and pathetic, they will blame anyone and anything for them drinking alcohol. They expect their children to take care of them and to clean after their asses, but are unreliable whenever their children need them. They get health issues which they expect to be taken seriously, but quitting or even minimizing alcohol is out of the question. Alcoholic scrotes take up hospital beds and important resources, meanwhile sober women struggle to be taken seriously at all and will get sent home with "it's just anxiety", while really she had appendicitis. They keep sabotaging me or dropping me in very vulnerable moments, sometimes literally, because they cannot handle that I might rise above them because I don't start my day with hard liquor. Other times they suicidebait when I mention the fact that I might move far away and that it's not fair to them with how difficult I have supposedly been (citing stupid shit like how I cheated during Disney trivial pursuit when I was 7). I don't even know if they try to gaslight me or they have given themselves Korsakoff and genuinely forgot when I ask them about important shit. Even when I'm literally going through actual real not self-inflicted health problems, I'm expected to give a shit and empathize with the fact that they're alcoholic and "can't help it".

No. 1140490


No. 1143246

There are different tiers of bpdchans and I'm in the unpopular opinion they aren't all equally awful but I'd never get close to one again or even try to talk to one. They are the type to collect screenshots of every time someone was slightly rude to them and use it against them for the most petty reasons. It's constant eggshell walking even if you aren't friends with one, they'll misinterpret everything you say and never think that they may be the wrong ones. If nobody else has caught onto their bullshit they can easily get entire groups to vilify people because their delusions convinced them they're a big meanie. Especially now since most are terminally online zoomers.
Then, try being friends with one. Slip up once and you're suddenly as bad as the abuser that made them this way.
It's lose lose. Run while you can. Do not interact

No. 1143252

>>1143246
agreed BPD chans, their abuse and mental tactics are the worst

No. 1143269

ADHD. I can't handle constantly having to parse through random jumbled half-sentences to try to figure out what someone is trying to say. It genuinely gives me headaches trying to follow my mom telling a basic story about her day. So many twists and turns and sidetracks for "I bought milk at the store today". Think more about what you say before it comes out of your mouth or take meds.

No. 1143282

>>1143246
I agree that there's different tiers, I've met and been close to 2 women of a similar age with it and they were each displaying it very differently. One was nervous, lil paranoid, worried about her looks alot and her weight, overly polite and an overthinker in social situations. Very nice woman. Seemed to internally struggle quite a bit but didn't act out at others. The other woman was loud, rude and used her (admittedly very shocking) csa story to constantly explain away why rules just don't apply to her anywhere including at our college. She'd enter a room and have to tell everyone how bad her day was going. Made everyone uncomfortable and seemed to enjoy how acting dramatic made people too afraid to speak up to her. Couldn't compare the two at all. I do suspect that the quieter one was very hard to date though. I know her bf must've been the one seeing the other side of things. I saw hints of that. He was also older though so.. that's what old creeps get lol

Some may be fine to befriend but are too difficult to date. Some can keep it together in most settings and others display odd behaviours in all settings with no filter on it. I feel like I at least was left with a balanced view by meeting two who were so weirdly opposite.

No. 1147163

>>1143246
Sounds like your typical lolcow discord servers experience

No. 1148118

>>1143246
I feel like it's not that hard to just not be rude to people. Nobody could keep receipts of me being rude because I'm a nice person

No. 1149141

>>1148118
The thing is, I wasn't even rude. They misinterpret everything. They twist your words, cherry pick things you say, and broadcast to their personal armies painting you as the rudest or slighting them personally, when you did nothing or made an innocuous comment. That's the power of bpdfags. You can be polite, you can make a slightly off color comment, or you can be the meanest person ever, it doesn't matter. It's all the same to them and they'll find a way to twist it or misinterpret it anyway, especially if they decide they don't like you from the start. Does that make sense?

No. 1155530

>>1139992
I agree they can help it. It's called stop drinking, go to AA and therapy. I'm so sorry for what you had to deal with.

No. 1155563

>>1149141
No kidding, I once had a BPD freak come at me for breathing the wrong way. I don't even remember what we were talking about but I took a deep breath because we were inside on a humid day and he (yes I believe being a scrote made it worse) started asking why I felt the need to put him down and act dismissive about the point he was making. Because I breathed. Even after trying to explain I was just hot and didn't think he said anything wrong for like half an hour the psycho was convinced I was against him and almost gaslit me into believing I was in the wrong too. I'm a stupidly polite person and it was incredible how he managed to twist even the kindest statements into these outlandish insults. I feel for you, I don't want to take the risk of having to deal with someone like that ever again.

No. 1155565

Depression. I know I need sun, a long walk and a shower but I can't get out of bed before 3pm.

No. 1155601

>>1149141
One moment they laugh with you and the next you are the worst person on the world for them. My former roommate was like that.
Ironically, she hates narcs and bpd people because she thinks of herself as more of the victim type and can't see her behavioural pattern is same.

No. 1158834

The definition of autism is autism is so vague that it confuses me and makes me think its a massive cope for not saying "Your child is retarded".
Did you notice?
Autism goes from "high intelligence" to barely functional people, to the point they need 24/7 assistance and don't have any cognitive skills.
I know that is a spectrum, but I also see, with my own eyes, that that diagnosis is so vague it feels like a made up melting pot of conditions just not to offend anyone.
On a side, you have these socially awkward people that are intelligent, or at least in the common knowledge of it.
I would be intelligent too if I didn't have to worry about real life and just hyperfocused on a topic for years and years. Their so called intelligence doesn't do any favours if they only talk about trains all day but can't comprehend a task on the job they have.
On the other side, you just have screaming kids.
"uwu my child is nonverbal but he's so clever!!"
how the fuck do you know? Even speaking people who do their taxes are fucking stupid.
I feel sad for these parents and their coping and I wish autism wasn't so yassified like it is lately.
Why are the other mental illnesses bad but autism is nothing to be ashamed of?
If you can't function normally, can't hold a job, can't take care of yourself is no gift.
I hate these coddling people.

No. 1158844

>>1138956
well, i agree with the take on the screenshot, there's no convincing a psychotic person they're delusional and if you think otherwise you never were in contact with one. trying to calm them is best course of action (and then haldol).

No. 1158868

>>1143246
ugh sounds like my moid's ex. She tried to ruin our relationship with screenshots and then said she's gonna jump of a bridge right after that. She didn't, instead she got a hedgehog and named it after my moid.

No. 1158879

>>1158868
Anon you can't be this gullible

No. 1158883

>>1158879
what do you mean?

No. 1158892

>>1158883
9/10 times if men have exes in terrible mental states, she's most likely in that mental state due to his mental abuse. I've only ever seen a single situation where the woman was genuinely crazy and not driven insane but their scrotes mental abuse, most of the time it's because your moid destroyed her mental health

No. 1158902

>>1158892
This. Also if a dude's ex is trying to tell you something, it's best to keep it in mind and be cautious. Some women try to help other women but they get ignored because we're conditioned to think our man is always in the right and any woman telling us otherwise is shut down because jealousy.

No. 1158907

>>1158892
Not this case though. She's kinda famous in the community for her crazyiness. Lying about her age, cheating on every man she ever had, spreading rumors about other women, icluding me to make herself seem better. I was a virgin when i started dating him and she managed to spread a rumor i fucked the whole community. One of our mutual friends told her about her abusive family and suddenly everybody knew about it and the exe's crew made fun of the friend for it. I could go on a and on, moid's really innocent in this. He's just glad he broke things off. Don't you think i'd know if he was abusive? He's a dumbass but not an abuser. I'm on the women's sice 99% of time but in this case i'm glad to be far far away from this one.
>>1158902
She tried to spread a rumor i was a whore after the first day we met. She hugged me, took pictures with me and was friendly, but the day after she texted this nonsence to everyone. I tried to give her a chance there because i already knew about some of the things she was doing, but she proved to be crazy right away.

No. 1158910

>>1158907
Wtf? Why were you or your friends still talking to her after all of this? Cut her and her friends out asap. Make your bf do so too.
I've been called a whore in the same fashion, kek. Some women are weird.

No. 1158913

>>1158910
After she posted the screenshots and stuff she blocked me, and the mutual friend deleted her from the chat, we also moved away from the town so it's all okay now. I found out about the hedgehog randomly on instagram some time later.

No. 1158970

Is it possible to mask your ADHD symptoms completely? And if yes, how?

No. 1159570

>>1158970
Please go to the thread on /g/ for mental health issues
>>>/g/141299

No. 1160946

>>1158834
Trying to erase "Aspergers" as a term only hurts those that are on the high-functioning end and does nothing for those on the mentally retarded end. Non-verbal, agressive spergs still aren't employable even if you just start treating all autistic people as one clump of "otherness". No one will want to say they're autistic when people will associate them with violent manchildren.

Also as you say, the two average-intelligence autistic men I know have really detailed, encyclopedic knowledge on their niche interest, listing off all the contributors off the credits of their favorite childhood game. But one of them needs constant surveillance on any work because he doesn't understand complex tasks, and the other one knows absolutely nothing outside of his games. While the female autists I have met (autism or autistic traits aren't uncommon in our field) are usually into literature, not video games, and are generally knowledgeable.

No. 1160961

>>1160946
>non-employable
Erase Aspergers and enable people who don't fit the exploitative capitalist system to live normally instead of pathologizing them and putting them in the same basket as literal speds.

No. 1160965

>>1158913
It's great to hear you're doing better. I hope she gets ahold if herself and stops acting like a tard.

No. 1160986

>>1160961
It'd be better to just allow everyone normal work conditions than giving people that can't cope a special status.

No. 1160991

>>1160986
NTA, but usually the things which make them not be able to cope, are annoying to normies too. Like office landscapes are very loud and make it difficult to concentrate even for normies, so now they had to create "quiet rooms" or they have to hand out noise cancelling earmuffs. People have to fight to even get those fairly simple adaptations or to have management listen to them, sometimes it takes a sperg's ~special status~ for management to freak out enough to even make it an option for everyone. Most people don't have a normal work environment, but a barely tolerable one, which is why there's such a burnout epidemic.

No. 1161070

>>1160991
So much this. It's not people that are "wrong" for work, it's working conditions that are wrong for people.
How did anyone get convinced otherwise?

No. 1161106

>>1161070
I'm OP, by unemployable I meant people that literally are under the intelligence level where they can work without constant supervision. As I have to work with this one guy who generates more work for us to do, since we have to supervise him and correct his mistakes, but he's protected because of his status. It's unfair to everyone else but him.

No. 1161177

>>1161070
This. I'm sick of working conditions being shit tier working conditions and employers or employees pulling the "ItS jUsT nOt FoR yOu" card like seriously? Working isn't ""for me""?? This definitely applies to the medical field since hospitals will purposely create shit tier conditions, understaff, and then use any excuse they can to fire employees who can't keep up with severe understaffing

No. 1161182

>>1161106
I feel this way about old people who work in retail or fast food. Everyone has to pick up the pace around them and they give terrible customer service. It makes the entire experience terrible for customers and also creates a bigger work load for the younger people working, at the same time they get asspats and protected for being old even though she discrimination laws don't protect young people since ageism is okay against young people I guess

No. 1161203

> was nervous, lil paranoid, worried about her looks alot and her weight, overly polite and an overthinker in social situations. Very nice woman. Seemed to internally struggle quite a bit but didn't act out at others.
Sounds like me a little.

No. 1161207

>>1161182
I hate ageism against young people getting overlooked. Older people try to see how much you will take before you stand up for yourself, treat you as if you're dumb, pay you less for the same work- no one cares.

No. 1161215

>>1161106
>are under the intelligence level where they can work without constant supervision
I went to school with an autistic boy at a time that was not recognized as a disability, in a communist country. The teacher told us to be gentle with him and protect him because he's vulnerable, nothing else. We were all good little commies and we took good care of him as it was expected to be community oriented.
He went on to practice sports, focused on tennis, and now owns a tennis school and is a fantastic and popular trainer. He's happy, he's successful, he's fulfilled. And he never felt wrong.
Intelligence level my ass. It means nothing.

No. 1161235

>>1161215
I mean when you're literally not intelligent enough to do the tasks given to you at the workplace you work at, yeah, it means you're unqualified for that work. If 10 of him were working in our department, it'd be completely disfunctional.

No. 1161253

>>1161235
Completely missing the point.
It's not about what your department needs, it's about what people need.
What a "department" needs is to make profit. What people need is to live happy fulfilled lives.
Which do you prioritize?

People should not be stigmatized for not being able to be part of the horrible exploitative work environment. Like an anon said, that environment is bad for most people, disabled or not.

We should be stigmatizing bad environments, not people. Call workplaces disordered. Hell, we should think of types of disordered workplaces to classify. Then we can better know what to avoid and improve.

No. 1161256

>>1161177
They provide these cards in the waitingroom to leave anonymous support messages for medical staff and I make it a point to shit on admin for understaffing and underpaying on every card I leave, besides the standard support messages. You need more than just clapping, cards and resilience training.

No. 1161297

>>1161256
why do hospitals go out their way to understaff? seriously everyone I know in the medical field is constantly being fired for no clear reason or students are removed/not given clinical rotations even though it's literally free labor. I swear it's a fucking psycop to keep people in the service industry because consooming is more important than medical care

No. 1161392

>>1161253
I'm not talking about work culture, "hustle culture" or even just office environments, kek. I'm talking about a man that literally lacks the cognitive abilities to comprehend what needs to be done or solve problems he causes. It's not a high stress job. If everyone worked at the pace they're most comfortable with and take as many breaks as they want and be able to be as creative as they want… he'd still just be extra work for everyone else, as long as he stays here. I'm sure he could do something he'd be good at, but we're forced to pretend he's just as capable of doing this job as the others, which is just false. And not because of sensory or anxiety issues, but because he really is just that dumb and unable to change.
I'm all for more reasonable work conditions and liveable social planning.

No. 1161544

>>1161392
There is nothing wrong with that man except being at the wrong place. And that place I bet is not ideal for any of the rest of you.
Think about what you're caping for. Your job is not the be all and end all of things. This man, you, we all have only one life.
It shouldn't be in service of the market. We are no more than slaves then.

No. 1162012

>>1161215
Awh this warms my heart

No. 1165695

Whatever hypochondria falls under. I can't stand dealing with them anymore.
Oh no I'm gonna get cancer from everything.
Boohoo. Shut up we all are. Live a little until that happens.

No. 1165699

>>1161182
Not to mention they’re extremely rude and exploitative towards their younger employees. I rather be in hell than work that kind of job ever again

No. 1165709

>>1165699
>You're young! You can lift all this stuff for me and do fast work
Then why the fuck did you apply and take the job if you can't do 80% of the job duties it requires Karen? You're probably getting paid more anyway for ~years of experience~ even though everyone else is doing your job. Elderly people are the biggest narcissists on the planet, next to moids

No. 1165720

>>1130653
I wish there was genetic testing available to everyone so they can see if they have a family history for autism. I’m absolutely done trying to cape for autistic men, not take incoming but I truly don’t even think autistic women exist, people are just not used to women deviating from typical female socialization. Autistic women manage to never do this shit, it’s like the disability of being born a man exacerbates their autism

No. 1165721

>>1165709
They're also mostly retired or housewives who are there voluntarily with nothing better to do. The young people they hate so much are usually trying to work to get by and have little choice. I worked in retail with a bunch of catty older people who were horrible to anyone under the age of 40 working there. There was always favoritism to the old crowd and all young people were seen as lazy, even if it was the older ones who were slacking thanks to favoritism.

No. 1165725

>>1165721
And they’re surprised when their saggy haggard asses gets thrown into a senior home which is essentially a dungeon for elderly people. People think ageism is horrible for elderly people but fuck no, they are absolutely tyrannical against younger generations kek

No. 1165859

>>1165725
right? I use to work in the medical field in a retirement community you can always tell who the shit tier grandparents/parents were since they never stop complaining, reporting staff for no reason, buzzing call lights for no reason at all, their kids never visit unless it's for money. they literally believe that they could've just treated their family however they wanted their entire life and it would never come back to bite them, now so many of them cry about how "My KiDs WoN't TaLk To Me" but yell, act bitter, shame their kids and grandkids for no reason at all, excuse abuse from them and other family members and so on

No. 1166695

xy chromosome

No. 1166789

>>1166695
Bump to hide nasty scrote

No. 1167117

Not sure if this counts as a mental disorder but religious fanatics. Imo they should be classified as one. I'm talking about tradthots and moids who think they can abuse and exploit women and children, mutilate their genitals and rape them because their god says it's okay apparently.

No. 1167744

>>1167117
Religion and cults are legally induced psychosis but don't tell that anon or people will start to think you're being an edgy 15 yo

No. 1201902

I'm saying this as a mentally ill person and I strongly believe 90% of psych problems could be resolved faster if psychologist and psychiatrist could say "cope better."
I know not all people are strong but in modern day psych talk, it seems like everybody doesn't want to be responsible of themselves and just pop up in the doctor office saying "fix me" like any other doctor and wont do shit by themselves.
Especially people with mood and personality disorders, they seriously need to sit the fuck down and count to 10, I'm sure that if people breathed a bit in and out before going ape shit, their problems would be solved in the big part.
I'm saying this because learning self soothing techniques in therapy as opposed to just choose being put on antipsychotic and sleep, made me think about my experiences, about what I need and how to cope with my condition and I feel so much better.
People need to know themselves and stop putting resposibilites onto other people, especially people who have meltdowns over the smallest things and then they say that "they can't help it, they're ill"
Fuck off.

No. 1202451

>>1201902
Concur with most of what youre saying but as someone with a mood disorder (bipolar) it is most definitely not a matter of "just sit down and count to 10" for any of us who actually meet the diagnostic criteria lol. That is quite literally like telling a schizophrenic who's having a psychotic episode to sit down and count to 10. Something is physically wrong with our brains and while some symptoms can be improved via coping mechanisms, we aren't being drama queens when we explain that certain behaviors are virtually uncontrollable (particularly when unmedicated).

But like I said I agree with most of what you said. The average person who seeks mental health treatment doesn't need to be put on a hundred thousand heavy duty psychiatric meds as a first line of treatment, they need to be taught healthy coping skills as you said.

No. 1202472

>>1202451
It's funny because I'm schizophrenic and I know how bad psychotic episodes can be and I actually went to the ER some times during my diagnostic period but my therapist suggested me in a sort of pavlov-way how to cope even with those. Sure I was put on antipsychotics too and they helped but I was forced to go some therapy way. For example, I used to see people and spider like creatures sprinting after me, my therapist suggested to take pictures or have someone with me and let me be guided by their emotions if I saw something. I used to not get out because I was afraid people were gonna to chop my arms off, my therapist suggested to first get out the door, find something nice, then the house, looking at something nice, then once in the street being focused on something like the grocery list. I'm making it simple and I might not be corrected while phrasing because I'm not a native speaker and yes, this took some years, but yeah, people don't even want to make this effort. They just expect their medication uwu to work and that's it.
After years of this treatment I think in my head "yeah that's shit but I have stuff to do to stay alive and nothing that I saw hurt me ever." I still have voices but at least they don't make me have a mini heart attack.

No. 1202505

>>1202472
Glad to hear you've made so much progress, anon! Your therapist sounds wonderful and smarter than most of the people I worked with when I was in the mental health field as a peer counselor. It really makes a huge difference when the person treating you actually cares, rather than seeing you as a walking dollar sign (I'm American, so naturally our healthcare system is a fucking travesty)

No. 1202514

Hey anons,
I was diagnosed with PTSD (abusive alcoholic dad & daddy issues that ensued)
Therapist gave me breathing exercises for when I have panic attacks and nocturnal panic attacks, when I wake up from a nightmare with a panic attack I mean
I’m also journaling to see how often I have nightmares and flashbacks, which is unfortunately pretty frequent for the time being..
She suggested a psychiatrist and low dose meds for the beginning, but at the moment I have an upcoming exam which is very important and I can’t risk side effects messing with my schedule. So I’ll start the meds about a month later.
Can any other PTSD anons give me advice? Thanks

No. 1202518

>>1202514

Also an anon with PTSD and all I can say is don't take meds. Stick with the therapy only.

No. 1202520

>>1201902
This and also changing your habits and improving living conditions can do wonders for mental health, literally. You'll have people (zoomers especially) crying and struggling with depression and anxiety while they refuse to stop looking at social media 24/7 and binge coffees to stay up at night playing videogames in the dark. You'll have people feeling like shit and blaming it on some mental issue (and doctors do this too at times) while they eat junk food and sugar evey day and don't excercise.
Our habits have a huge impact on mental health. They're not what cause them, but they sure don't make it better if they're crap. There are studies showing that daily walks and contact with nature can help with psychosis ffs.

No. 1202545

>>1202518
Thank you. Did you have side effects ?

No. 1210099

I genuinely believe that narcissists cannot love the way other people can. I know it's supposed to be a spectrum so in theory I suppose someone less sever and open to therapy could change but I just don't trust them. It seems like therapy, even for the "mild" ones, just teaches them better behaviors. Kind of like how psycho/sociopaths can intellectually understand that they can't do bad things, not emotionally. They're monsters.

No. 1210132

Does narcolepsy count?
Cause I’ll tell you this shit is trash

No. 1210199

>>1202514
If you have trouble staying present you can use an earbud in one ear. The two different audios going one in each ear helps reset your brains focus ( I forget why) it helps me. When I start to get triggered into flashbacks and panic attacks I focus on naming all the streets I lived on as a kid. Just repeating them over and over. Is there something you can focus on like a mantra to help you focus?
Keep your stress low if possible. PTSD and Stress can be more difficult. There’s EDM tapping I’ve tried it. Had a little success here there, but some women swear by it.
Panic attack breathing is in for 5, hold for two, breathe out for seven.
Are you in situations that are aggravating it? I have specific triggers related to my abuse that I’ve had to work through in desensitization therapy.

No. 1210296

I'm tired of newfags filling this thread with their mental health issues and not reading the OP. Go to the thread in /g/ for some actual advice for fucks sake

No. 1213833

>>1210132
Narcolepsy is not a psych illness, nonna. Please educate urself uwu

No. 1218504

Damn all these bpdchan anons are getting me nervous as someone with a bpdchan friend. anyone have any good experiences or at least experiences that didn't end in terror?

No. 1219991

I hate whatever disorder causes someone to claim a medical illness they haven't been diagnosed with. Have a friend who said he had narcolepsy for years, but awhile ago I learn he's never been diagnosed nor been on any medication, and just expects everyone to accept when he checks out in the middle of something, including work. The actual narcoleptics I've met aren't close to spacey or entitled, and are pretty apologetic when they've fallen asleep during things because they understand that it's rude even when they can't help it. Whereas this guy just expects everyone to deal. I hate it.

No. 1220015

>>1218504
I’ve known 5 formally diagnosed. 3 women 2 men. One of the five is wonderful the other 4 were a lot. I’d still take someone with BPD over Bipolar though.

No. 1220145

>>1218504
nope. my best friend from when i was 8 to 19 absolutely destroyed me.

No. 1220195

>>1218504
I had a friend with it who even got brain scans related to the disorder. She was a really nice person imo, her more impulsive behavior really harmed herself more than anyone else, like all that stuff was directed inward. I actually think it was a really sad situation that she had to hate herself so much. I don't have contact with her anymore because she kind of dropped everyone and all but vanished one day, but I don't feel angry at her over it, just hope she is ok.

No. 1224958

>>1220015
>I’d still take someone with BPD over Bipolar though
same. my neighbor has bipolar and it's a lot to deal with. I became her confidante and at first it was fine, but I've started to dread interacting with her. I never know if she's calling me because she wants help with errands or to grab dinner, or if she's having a crisis and needs someone to vent to about how she's 50 and thinks suicide is her definite end game. it's depressing and makes me worry for my own future (I'm not bipolar but it's still discouraging to see her like that). I haven't even seen her manic before
then again I've never met a bpd that didn't internalize everything. maybe if i had experience with an abusive one I'd think differently

No. 1224960

>>1224958
Do you guys just meet a lot of diagnosed bpds and bipolars and npds in your life or is it you just assuming and self diagnosing them? I’m not baiting btw but i read a lot of posts like this where people have a lot of interactions with people with different personality disorders. While the only people i have personally come across are npds and autists (both common)

No. 1224968

>>1224960
>or is it you just assuming and self diagnosing them
I would guess 90% that lol

No. 1224978

>>1224960
yes my neighbor is diagnosed bipolar and I know it's factual (can't explain how I know without revealing my cringe) and the bpds were also diagnosed, unless they were lying and self-diagnosed themselves. I don't like to armchair diagnose people, it's so embarrassing to see people call every lolcow bpd or npd, like girl you're on a gossip website you aee not a psychiatrist
shitty npds are pretty easy to spot though. I won't definitively say someone has npd (i'll just call them narcisstic instead) but there have been points where I would have bet money that if they tried to get help (the shitty ones don't and if they do they wouldn't admit to having npd) that they'd be diagnosed.

No. 1224983

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narcissism is the new psychopathy. these people are laughable from a distance, and some traits are funny when they aren't close, but every time they are, they start abusing. they suck the soul out of everything nice, and then claim it as their own invention. everytime i told an idea around a narcissist, they stole it and took credit for it, without any remorse. i have to say sometimes even psychopaths are better than narcissists. aspd and psychopathic people usually tend to mind their own business, be into self improvement, or seek thrills on their own accord. but a narcissist needs supply. they can't even show consistent charm because they get too emotional from their intense enviousness. they think a person minding their own business, being awkward and shy, is the best supply, but when that person won't be their bitch, they make them their enemy. i had this coworker who got offended at my exhaustion. she convinced herself i hated her. i was just too tired to fake laugh at her unfunny joke and make small talk. she then fucking made it her mission to try and ruin me from gossip to messing with my food. absolutely insane in the worst way. and it was obvious she was a narc, from her social climbing, attempts at fame and trying to become a spokesperson after her abusive behaviour caught up with her. she started spreading how poor, poor her actually had an eating disorder. narcissists are easy to identify because social media encourages them. if you find that someone is dissatisfied with their views, likes and follower count and they are not owning a business or making anything really, that can be the first red flag. the second is them loving gossip too much. males are easier to avoid because they are annoying to be around and show antisocial traits, like bringing up sensitive and triggering topics on purpose to leach people's emotions. i haven't been in a relationship with one because my family already showed me what they are like, and that was enough of a warning to keep even suspected narcissists far from me. narcissistic abuse will make you completely lose yourself. there was some study on gaslighting resulting in decreased intelligence in the victims. i wish people posted before and after photos of dating a narcissist, because those images should be enough to give this disorder the reputation it deserves. i like people with confidence and it is okay to have insecurities but if i sense a predatory victim complex from an attention seeker i would rather spare myself from further interacting with them.

No. 1225006

>>1224983
>narcissistic abuse will make you completely lose yourself. there was some study on gaslighting resulting in decreased intelligence in the victims. i wish people posted before and after photos of dating a narcissist, because those images should be enough to give this disorder the reputation it deserves.
I've dealt with narcissistic abuse and I've been told I don't seem the same. I don't feel the same either, I do feel dumber and more dull. They're monsters and they don't care, and if they do care it's in the most shallow way possible - "I'm so sorry I hurt you, I'm such a horrible person, tell me I'm not a horrible person so I won't feel so bad" Disgusting behavior

No. 1225007

>>1218504
Sorry anon, I have had not one but TWO bpd people claim me as their favorite person (one in high school and one when I was in my mid 20s). Yes, both officially diagnosed so not armchairing. They both started out seeming like the ideal friend. They can do that by sensing what you would like to see in a persona and becoming that – since they have no sense of self. Then they completely destroy you with drama, selfishness, lies, and the manipulation that relies on your innate sense of empathy. Then they can blame their behavior on their mental illness so there is never any accountability – your bad feelings are all your fault.

And boyyyy howdy, do I have stories. I didn't text the one friend back for 12 hours because I HAD THE FLU and she came to my house and broke all my dishes on my front lawn. Then tried to act like it was a reasonable reaction to being "ghosted."

No. 1225012

>>1224983
I really relate to this, it's good that I don't feel crazy because I've been told that I am too sensitive/not normal to hold a grudge on little details.

No. 1225025

>>1224983
Yeah pretty much and not only will they steal your identity without remorse and leave you alone, nah… they will mimic you and claim youre doing it. Completely fucking your mind up till you wake up one day and can’t even recognize yourself. They charm other people and isolate you so no one will believe you either. Narcissists are hell spawn, they are disgusting.

No. 1225030

>>1225007
I think the problem comes when they are aware and diagnosed, people with any mental illness that rely on their diagnosis and boast about it are bad news always. like if someone says “i have bpd” or “i have ocd” in response to a mistake they made then they are a selfish person who takes no accountability or responsibility in general. If someone is not using the diagnosis to get better then they’re just a walking personification of the illness and they chose that path as an individual. I have issues but i don’t tell people in my life about it, especially when conflict arises. its all in the therapy session. Of course this doesn’t apply to narcs and psychos, stay away from them always.

No. 1225035

I wish self-diagnosed npdfags would shut up about ableism. They get butthurt if you call it narcissistic abuse, "waaah that's mean, just call it abuse instead of demonizing us!" It's ironic, how narcisstic is it to care about that when someone is talking about being abused? No empathy, no self awareness. Why should they be coddled? Because the generalization hurts their feelings? Oh boo hoo

No. 1225050

>>1225035
I've been criticized for giving npd (and bpd) "sufferers" a bad name by simply telling the true story of how a couple bpd friends and one npd boyfriend acted in real life. The things they said and did, that's all. It's like they don't want the secret of their 100% inevitable blowups to be leaked to the public. They feel uncomfortable when potential victims, and "fp's" might be able to see it coming and protect themselves.

No. 1225067

>>1224960
They were formally diagnosed. The first was my own father. Who was comorbided. Then had two ex gfs that were formally diagnosed bipolar. One before we dated. One after. Then a male friend I had after like four years got diagnosed with BPD. Finally was a random women I was befriending who disclosed when we first started talking(I could already tell and chose to gently step away).
I tend to be too patient and I accept people as they are so I tend to attract and spend a lot of time with people who don’t fit in with others.
Sidenote I’ve only met one person with NPD and he was a failed narcissist so I don’t think he’s a good example of typical NPD. It’s not my job to diagnosis people.

No. 1225071

>>1225035
What’s funny is that is how I got ex narcissist to admit he was diagnosed. Another abusive narc od (he slammed my pregnant roommates head into a car door) and I said something about his diagnosis and npd and that he deserved it and my ex flew off the handle capping for narcissists. 20 minutes later home boy had been diagnosed by three different psychs with npd himself. I was too young to see it in advanced, but I definitely can now.

No. 1225081

>>1225050
yeah. obligatory "not all of them are bad people" but if you're supposedly not one of the shitty ones why are you taking offense?

>>1225071
this is exactly what I'm talking about. who cares about what the pregnant lady went through, you hurt my feelings by implying that a shitty person with npd was shitty because of their npd

No. 1225101

>>1225081
Yeah I still have no sympathy, but this particular ex had all kinds of fucked up morals to go with the NPD. He would pay all his mother’s bills for example but would never answer her calls even when family members she was very close to died and she had no one else because her emotions were and I quote “just tiring and annoying”. Fuck head her sister died after months of taking care of her. Call your poor mother so she doesn’t have to be comforted by my piss poor broken Spanish.
Or he was vegan but screamed at me an assault victim who asked him not to describe AI as rape in graphic detail. Fun times that one.
The thing about not all of them being bad is true, but does that need to be said. It’s not my job to validate others and I’m not judging everyone with one brush. Even if I was no one is entitled to my time or attention or affection.

No. 1225109

>>1225067
Sorry for incoming sperg. I think there should be more subtypes of narcissism because it comes in all sorts of flavors. I know covert and overt are a thing. I have a few covert NPD traits that worry me at times. More NPD awareness is good for victims to grieve, but it's so complex now it's hard to identify what a narc even is. You still have the stereotype of them thinking they're hot shit, obnoxious and pompous. The ones bred by social media validation. I think some fall into that category without the malicious manipulation parts but come with plenty entitlement.
Then you have the more ASPD type of narcs, the ones that truly hate themselves and try to control others.
And then I've noticed people who might fall into the covert or failed category who never admit they are wrong and may even reverse it and claim they have been victims of narc abuse. Which tbh is how NPD starts, but I also think some weaponize the narcissism scare to their own benefit to deflect their own shitty behavior. I dunno, everyone throws the word narc around now and it's hard to really know for sure other than outright abuse and gaslighting. I wonder if narc traits are more common these days

No. 1225112

>>1225081
Hmm, it's interesting you read that as offense. Are you replying to the right post? I was trying to add on to what previous anon had said about how npd people don't like generalizations cuz it hurts their feefees. I was adding that they also don't like true stories being shared from people they have messed with. In forums, sometimes they'll try to change your vocabulary or tell you to stop sharing because it hurts them somehow. I myself do not suffer from npd or bpd. I do (based on experience) kinda believe that they are all bad – and there are no "good ones." What was your interpretation of what I said, I'm just curious.

No. 1225114

>>1225109
I agree. There’s also a lot of blending and overshadowing of what NPD actually is.
I can explain my understanding of a failed narcissist. It comes from a narc who can’t establish a validation chain for an extended period of time. They burn all their bridges. Chase everyone out and are no longer getting the support and validation they need to continue to function so the fucking wheels come off. Because they’re caught in a catch 22. They can’t do to the pride and ego hate themselves but they also know deep down it’s their fault. So they just spiral out and self destruct.

No. 1225117

>>1225112
NTA but the other one. I’ve had that exp too. People love to protect them and I’m not sure why. If you don’t do those things why do you care? It’s also weird to me because i was always told how dangerous men with BPD were and the stats of harm they do. (It’s stupid high) so I’m very confused on how in the last 20 years it’s become “female hysteria”? Or whatever people labeling. It’s also not only do to abuse and appears to be like 60% genetic so? The support groups lie and repeat those lies like mad.

No. 1225118

>>1225112
i meant the royal you, my bad. like i'm talking to the offended people. should have used quotes, i'm tired

No. 1225121

>>1225118
kek because I do that too, thanks, now I'm less confused

No. 1225123

>>1225101
>The thing about not all of them being bad is true, but does that need to be said. It’s not my job to validate others and I’m not judging everyone with one brush. Even if I was no one is entitled to my time or attention or affection.
it really doesn't, for some reason i feel the need to put that disclaimer in the hopes of not making an npd mald. not that it ever works, they whine about it every time no matter how delicately you phrase it

No. 1225241

people with bpd or bipolar disorder. npd is pretty easy to spot and avoid but people with those other 2 disorders are fucking energy vampires who can never take accountability for their own actions its always "i cant help it i have bpd i was having a manic episode!!" I have never met one bitch with this shit that told me straight up "i recognize that i have hurt many people due to my mental disorder and i am truly sorry for that."
I remember watching this video on instagram where this girl who made having bpd her entire personality made a uwu sad video about her ex telling her that she actually can be very draining due to her mental disorder. people werent defending her and were saying this is a VALID complaint and she was so upset she kept replying to every comment with "actually he was abusive to me so!!" and that perfectly captured bpd bitches. its never "oh you're right it just really hurt at the time but i understand his perspective" its "ACTUALLY THIS IS HOW IM THE VICTIM!!! STOP DEFENDING ANYONE THAT ISN'T MEEEEEEE"
its fucking insufferable

No. 1225647

>>1225241
>npd is easy to spot
No, no it isn’t unless you’re a very confident and attentive person or they’re a failed narc in their 40s who lost all of their supply and spiraling out of control. narcissists can literally mirror you for years before showing a clear sign that they’re fucked in the head

No. 1225686

>>1225647
i guess in my case I am either experienced or attentive because they always have that creepy narc stare as if they're analyzing ways to manipulate you next

No. 1225703

Honestly all of them, I think I'm ableist.

No. 1225738

>>1225647
My tipper is people who outright say they are good people and brag about being involved in volunteer work or fields that help people. My family was ruined by a narc moid who had even me fooled but ever since him I'm always on the defense when people try extra hard to gain my trust

No. 1226370

Anxiety disorders are one of the most irritating ones for me, or maybe i have just met only people who make having anxiety their whole personality. Every group chat i have been part of that has had people with any kind of anxiety always turns into "oh no i'm so anxious about x!" complaining with others going "you can do it!!" like you're a fucking adult so you should be capable of meeting a doctor or doing your taxes or whatever without the constant need of encouragement and uwu validation uwu. Add some insecurity and low self-esteem in the mix and i'm at my fucking limit. Please shut up about how scared baby you are and learn some coping mechanisms.

No. 1226665

ADHD, especially hyperactive presentation. I am diagnosed with combined presentation and I do get it, but I just feel like at some point we are forced to find ways to cope, and people who go are almost 30 who still haven’t even tried to manage their symptoms have been coddled. It’s embarrassing and makes me feel like admitting to having ADHD means admitting that I’m shamelessly irresponsible

No. 1243581

I can't deal with my best friend who has BPD. I can't. She's a perpetual victim set off by the smallest fucking things, just one offhanded remark from someone else sends her spiralling and in just a few seconds she's already suicide baiting and vomiting out raging word salad on my lap, even when the conflict was almost insignificant in size and the other party probably forgot about it right afterwards. I've lost sleep over having to listen to her venting, I've skipped work because I wanted to be there for her meltdown. And even after I stopped doing that and started setting boundaries, she doesn't respect them and even one message for her ruins my concentration skills for the rest of my day. I get that she's feeling desperate and helpless and overwhelmed by her inability to control and handle her emotions but externalizing it like that is straight out cruel. I hate that I can't feel happy for her to be invested in something be it a community, hobby or something else because I know she's just going to quit it immediately and burn everything to the ground after the first minor setback. I hate that people with BPD don't exhibit these red flags until they've roped you in to their mind games but at least ever since I've met her I've learned to spot them almost immediately. Love bombing combined with bouts of weird radio silence is a telltale sign. Be aware nonnies, BPD-chans are not to be fraternized with.

No. 1243604

>>1243581
Why don't you just get new friends? I've also never seen normal people befriend the mentally ill so you're probably unhinged as well otherwise you wouldn't have stuck with her.

No. 1243605

>>1243604
>t. BPD-chan feeling called out and placing the responsibility and blame on others for her own draining and abusive behavior

No. 1243610

>>1243605
NTA but from the post it doesn't sound like the friend is aware of her toxic behaviours at all and definitely doesn't seem like a person capable of taking a high road, in which case, if >>1243581 is done coddling her, she is the one that has to walk away, it doesn't have anything to do with "BPD blaming others"

No. 1243616

>>1243610
What is it with BPD and people coddling the disorder with all they got? With every other personality disorder it goes without saying that it's on the mentally ill person for abusing the people in their lives with no remorse but for some reason BPDs are seen as eternal victims unable to be held responsible for their actions. Most of them tend to be charming and normal people for at least some of the time, which is why the anons here even associate with them or consider them friends, but turn into a Mr. Hyde monster in seconds to trample over everything on their way so it's not like they're fully mentally impaired like most schizophrenia patients for example. Blaming the victims for "just not taking the high road" when they've been manipulated and groomed into feeling immense amounts of guilt for potentially causing their friend to kill themselves is ridiculous and just like any other toxic people BPDs should be the ones to have the finger pointed at.

No. 1243621

>>1243616
There's no coddling anon, bpd friend is a shitty, toxic person, but just as anons would advise op to break up with a toxic boyfriend in a relationship thread, same here she should end the friendship she hates; yes, she is a victim of a toxic behavior but saying she should walk away is not victim blaming or excusing bpd

No. 1243646

I think everyone agrees with me when i say narcissists. Especially in circumstances where you can be trapped with these people. The most vile and nasty things on this planet, literally soul sucking machines in skin suits. I can see past the shenanigans of other cluster bs because at the core of it is the reality of being a childhood abuse victim. But narcissistic abuse is too hard to forgive.

No. 1243677

>>1243646
I understand what you mean but can you really look past antisocial/sociopath shenanigans?

No. 1243742

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Cluster B. I know this bitch who meets all the criteria for BPD and HPD and she never ever shuts the fuck up. I’ve got pretty sensitive hearing and being around her literally gives me a headache. I’ve been in the pub with her before and made friendly, knowing eye contact with strangers who were shooting her dirty looks because she’s so fucking LOUD. If it’s been a minute since she last fed on attention she’ll start some drama by crying about nothing or throwing a massive strop and storming off. She’s always right about everything, obviously, and she’ll lecture you for hours about it.
She dresses like a whore and clumsily flirts nonstop with my longterm Nigel but god forbid I even talk to her longterm on/off romantic victim about the weather. Two years ago she planned a surprise birthday party for my nigel and didn’t cut me in on it. So obviously none of our shared friends were there & it really hurt some of their feelings. It wasn’t even a good party! She’s currently planning a group trip to a romantic destination she knows he wants to go to… and it coincidentally just happens to fall across Valentine’s Day. Last year she tried to plan another birthday event for him (she wanted to take him camping so they could use the astrophotography kit I bought him… without me) and I found out about it and was like lol no sorry, I’ve already started planning a festival for all of us. I cut her in on those plans to be nice and obviously she had to secretly do some extra surprise shit so she’d come out on top. I could go on. It’s been nonstop for four years.
She’s petty, jealous, fake and mean. We were friends for a minute before she split on me over a tiny misunderstanding and she’s been a total bitch to me ever since. She’s mid 30s and showing absolutely no signs of growing up. I’ll literally catch her glaring at me when I’m holding hands with him, or pretending to be sick when we’re kissing. It’s fucking pathetic.
I’m done with it. If she doesn’t cool it with the psycho bunnyboiler shit I’m gonna have to knock her out and it’s gonna get real awkward real fast. Just tone it down, you mad bitch.

No. 1244727

>>1243742
>Two years ago she planned a surprise birthday party for my nigel and didn’t cut me in on it. So obviously none of our shared friends were there & it really hurt some of their feelings. It wasn’t even a good party!
Are you implying that your scrote attended the party?
Also why does he keep talking to her if she keeps "clumsily" hitting on her?
It sounds like the problem is the scrote you chose to associate with, stop projecting his shitty behaviour on that woman
>I’m done with it.
I hope you're talking about your pathetic moid

No. 1244743

>>1244727
Based
Men don't get to act "clueless" about this shit

No. 1244976

>>1243742
nonnie she sound like a cow but >>1244727 is absolutely right too

No. 1245017

>>1243742
Stop diagnosing people with popular mental illnesses using weird online pages. Diagnosing people you dislike with three disorders that can't co-exist and writing paragraphs about them is way more unhinged than an average cluster B you're probably as mental.

No. 1245018

>>1243742
It makes me sick when dumb nonnies call their worthless scrote "Nigel" in the same breath that they complain about some annoying woman trying to get with him. If he was a Nigel you'd have laughed at and then blocked her together years ago. Grow up.

No. 1245020

Samefagging but I read this >>1244727 and I'm %99 sure your scrote is cheating and you're coping by diagnosing the mistress with different evil illnesses while forgiving your scrote even though he doesn't even respect you enough to hide his interest in other women. If he cared about you in the slightest he'd have cut away women that flirt with him.

No. 1245139

I can deal with most things to a certain degree (except narcissists, I hope they die) but anyone who doesn't help themselves, regardless of the disorder is insufferable. You don't get to do absolutely nothing to improve your situation then complain about how rough you have it. I have my own mental stuff to deal with so while I can empathize with those feelings of hopelessness, there's not a whole lot I can do if the person doesn't want to be helped. Then I feel bad that I'm not doing enough for them.

No. 1245206

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self-diagnosed npdfags are so annoying and should neck themselves immediately if they post whiny self-victimizing shit like this (I say self-diagnosed because I don't think any "real" npdfags would ever admit to it)

No. 1245223

>>1245206
The NPD/ASPD dick-sucking trend has been the goofiest trend in a while. These weirdos clearly have not dealt with actual NPDs/ASPDs and only have these opinions because they are all chronically online and they either have self-diagnosed themselves with the disorders or they're in a dysfunctional discord group with a bunch of self-diagnosed NPDs/ASPDs and feel the need to defend their honor. Virtual insanity.

No. 1245234

>>1245206
It’s so funny because the most narc like shit these self diagnosed do is this shit. Actual narc abuse would eat them alive.

No. 1245437

>>1245206
anyone online who claims to have npd or aspd is almost certainly self diagnosed and all of them are either bpd fakebois who want to claim a more "masculine" diagnosis or 18 year old boys who call themselves sigma males and worship patrick bateman

No. 1245897

>>1245017
>Diagnosing people you dislike with three disorders that can't co-exist
I'm not trying to diagnose her. This thread is about being annoyed by disordered behaviour & her behaviour is consistent with DSM diagnostic criteria so I thought it would be okay shorthand to say she meets it. i guess that’s just armchairing in disguise though so thanks for calling me on it. What was the third though? I only said BPD/HPD
>writing paragraphs about them
you’re right, I should have been more concise
>way more unhinged than an average cluster B you're probably as mental
yeah fair. At least I contain it to here though kek
>>1245018
my bad, guess I misused the term. I thought it would come off as tongue-in-cheek self-deprecation sorry
>>1245020
I do see how it looks from the outside & tbh I fucked up by rageposting about boyfriend stuff while failing to mention any of the other way crazier shit she’s pulled on me and on others. Their whole group dynamic is bizarre.
I get why I’m being roasted & maybe you’re all right. The situation is a lot more complex than that one post though.
>>1245206
oh naming narc abuse hurts narcs? a classic, repackaged

No. 1263850

Any mental illness that includes self sabotaging behavior. I'm sick of dealing with people who make no effort to better their lives or actively do destructive behaviors on purpose, then make the excuse of "I don't deserve to be happy". You have no fucking right to complain.
I can understand the excuses of not having energy or feeling too depressed but if you're doing this dumb act of wah wah I'm awful I don't deserve anything, you're retarded. Then they'll still fucking complain their life is shit or that people keep leaving them. My empathy has run out if you just continue to shoot yourself in the leg on purpose.

No. 1269829

narcissists are the worst people in the world but once you're out and have healed a bit they become so funny. they think they're such hot shit, special charismatic master manipulators, then you talk to anyone who has experienced narcisstic abuse and realize that they're all the fucking same.

anyways I was thinking about this again because two years later I started getting paranoid that maybe they were right and I was the problem; hell maybe I was the narcissist and I was projecting! so I looked up how to tell if you're a narcissist and I can't relate to any of it, and it's all so cringy. edgy embarrassing fucks that somehow still manage to do lasting damage

No. 1269854

>>1269829
Idk anon I'm glad you can laugh and heal from them but in my experience I can barely laugh just because they still, somehow, get away with things. It just makes me angry. Pathetic, but still angry that they get the upper hand.
It's terrifying when you are the only one who calls them out and they completely go insane that you damaged their egos an will stop at anything to ruin you in retaliation. Meanwhile the people closest to them that are somehow still under their spell see you as the problem and cannot recognize it, so they turn on you too. Thankful for people who do recognize it but fuck is it hard when they have so many people still roped in.

No. 1269880

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>>1269854
it's actually a very bitter "if i don't laugh i'll cry" response. they make me really angry if I think about it too much. picrel is me realizing my worldview has been fundamentally changed forever and there's nothing I can do about it except go to therapy and have nightmares for the next x year(s) of my life

No. 1269933

>>1269829
> hell maybe I was the narcissist and I was projecting! so I looked up how to tell if you're a narcissist
Not really directed at you, more so something that's been bugging me in general but this trend of googling or watching youtube vids and deciding for yourself whether you or others are narcs is doing more harm than good at this point

No. 1270302

>>1269933
if you don't actually armchair diagnose anyone it can be helpful to know the red flags, but yeah I agree. on the other side you have edgy internet obsessed teens reading about it on tumblr or Twitter and going "wow, that's just like me. npd rights!"

No. 1270319

>>1270302
>tfw you're a self diagnosed npd aspergic empath with social anxiety, imposter syndrome, and a side of bpd, bdd, and recovered from an eating disorder once and have ADD tendencies whenever you expect me to be reasonably on time.

No. 1270323

>>1270319
omg SAME

No. 1270485

>>1269854
My mom, her sister, and my cousin are malignant narcissists and it’s unbelievable how much evil shit they got away with. they turned everyone in my family against me, and now when I explain what happened to them they don’t really seem to care because they’ve been brainwashed and trained by the narcissists. I feel so bitter about all of it, especially because of how young I was when they started scapegoating me, and the fact that they singled me out because I was already traumatized and they knew I would be the easiest victim to torture. Narcissists are subhuman

No. 1271230

Dramatic people should be put down.
I'm talking about people who are always sad and/or angry to get attention and pity, the ones that every convo with them turns into listening to them venting endlessly and they can't seem they can't catch a break with all the bad things they go through. Grow up, cope, stop complaining.

No. 1271243

>>1271230
>Dramatic people should be put down.
Damn nonnie that's a bit… dramatic lol

No. 1271333

>>1269829
I actually gaslight myself into thinking that too because I always act really fake nice and defensive when dealing with NPD/ASPD types, so I feel like I have the upper hand with them, when I'm just lying to their faces and staying guarded. Makes me feel like a manipulator or a schizo myself but it's just a matter of not wanting to be fucked with

No. 1271416

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>>1245206
>that bio, pinned post and button to give a tip combined with self-diagnosing one of the currently trendy personality disorders

Every time

No. 1271457

>>1271416
>this page is for men about men first and foremost
acting like they're an oppressed class KEK

No. 1272064

>>1271457
Imagine hating womanhood so much you not only try to turn yourself into a man but also decide to dedicate your whole life to simping and uplifting men. Poor thing.

No. 1277160

>>1245206
im late i know but they really don't know the difference, do they? depression/anxiety/ocd aren't disorders of the personality that openly damage others because of an ego. narcissism is
>>1272064
average troon kek

No. 1277167

>>1277160
Samefag but does anyone here have or have had what some call "narcissistic fleas"? It's practically impossible to not exhibit a few traits of your abuser or the whole "if you can't beat them, join them" coping mechanism that your brain develops unconsciously. I recognised my behaviour was hurtful and I've grown out of it for a year or two thankfully.
It seems like a lot of these self-diagnosed NPDs online have this and it's almost sad if they weren't so dicksucking about it.

No. 1285506

My close friend has been suffering from depression and anxiety for over five years now. She’s very sweet and kind and I love her but sometimes I just can’t tolerate seeing her lips tremble with sadness. Her appearance is always a mess. We have been living abroad, her English skills went even worse during the pandemic, she never learned the local language either. She is stuck in an endless cycle of avoiding socializing because of lack of language skills and not improving her language skills because of her NEET lifestyle. She needs her husband for most basic errands like ordering food or visiting the hospital. She has anxiety attacks because she can’t order her food. Her self esteem is a record low and she is wasting her life being a handmaiden to her husband for food and shelter.
The other day I snapped and told her husband he should take better care of his wife and get her help, preferably online psycho
therapy in her native language. He laughed it off and said vodka will fix everything. Of course he doesn’t care because there is a women with low self worth doing all the housework and cooking for him. She whispered thank you but I doubt she will stand up for herself. She doesn’t put in the effort to study and learn either and in her mind she is still fantasizing about living in her home country.

No. 1285515

>>1285514
Wtf anon it’s the first time I’ve been posting this. Are you schizo or what

No. 1285528

>>1285514
Does it occur to you that the details are slightly different because I’m an entirely different person with a different story. I don’t check the thread you’re talking about and I obviously haven’t posted there. Some of you need to take a break from lolcow or maybe you’re a moid who secretly wants another woman to be stuck with a fellow moid forever, doesn’t seek any help from friends and ruin her life.

No. 1285565

>>1285534
Anon for the last time, it’s not me. You don’t need to screenshot someone else’s post and show it to me. I’m sure my friend is not the only woman who has depression and anxiety. Sadly so many women ruin their lives the same way. Just stop with the derailing and schizo theories

No. 1285582

>>1245223
Right lol, a lot of them think being autistic is an excuse for being a weirdo. And being narcissistic is just being a girlboss. Absolute detachment from reality and general ignorance of the world. You can tell they never met either, i’m almost jealous.

No. 1287406

Any disorders or disordered traits that people have normalised into sexualities and shit. Example would be "lithromantic" "lithosexual" which is just an avoidant or anxious-avoidant attachment style and should be talked about in therapy.

No. 1287442

I hate every single male autist. They will not listen to women for even one seccond, and they’re all so fucking creepy and can’t keep they’re fat fucking hands off women.

No. 1287449

>>1287442
from a female autist, couldn’t agree more. i have never met a male autist that wasn’t insanely creepy and insufferable. i’m open to them existing but this has yet to be proven. men are shit, and autism worsens and exaggerates everything bad about them

No. 1288836

Does Wellbutrin make anyone else fucking rageful? My god this is unbearable

No. 1288870

>>1288836
Are you sure you're not getting serotonin syndrome or something from it? They combined it with my ADHD medication when I was on it last and I couldn't stay awake, so I guess I had the opposite effect. You should probably get that changed immediately though.

No. 1288875

>>1288836
I’ve heard it does for some people. Most people I’ve met who tried it, in fact. It made me really paranoid though.

No. 1288876

>>1288870
>>1288875
Thanks nonnas. I was taking Lamictal to deal with this particular side-effect but I feel like taking more meds to mitigate side-effect from the first med is retarded. I'll see what my doctor says

No. 1288906

>>1288870
How the fuck would serotonin syndrome cause rage? I'm sorry this is just so fucking stupid. It can cause agitation and confusion and then coma and death not walking around functioning but getting pissed off and yelling at people.

No. 1288910

>>1288906
You should also consult your doctor for your apparent raging bitch problem

No. 1288914

>>1288910
Clearly I just have far too much rage-inducing serotonin in my brain, all that fucking MDMA I guess.

No. 1288916

>>1288906
>cause agitation
>walking around functioning but getting pissed off and yelling at people.
What do you think agitation is, exactly?

No. 1288918

>>1288914
No, your receptors are probably shot from MDMA idiot

No. 1288919

>>1288916
Agitation in the medical sense is people being unable to settle, like can't sit still, can't stop talking, won't go to sleep etc.

No. 1288922

>>1288919
>https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK493153/
>Agitation is a feeling of irritability or severe restlessness. It is a common sight in psychiatry units, emergency departments, and long-term care facilities, and it is managed differently depending on the setting and the person addressing it. 

No. 1288930

>>1288922
in what way is severe restlessness not what I described agitation in a medical context as being.
It's not just getting a bit more pissed off whilst functioning otherwise normally.
Have you actually seen anyone who is agitated due to something like serotonin syndrome, they aren't living normal lives but just more angrier than normal.
Serotonin syndrome also is an acute condition, these are short term mental status changes ffs not someone noticing they are angrier since they started a new medication a few weeks ago.

No. 1288943

Damn I didn't realize how many medical doctors we have here on the farms

No. 1288948

>>1288930
Ok, I'm going to dump some food for thought and then go to sleep because you're being aggressive as fuck.
Most people's diets vary, physiology is generally driven by various states with a goal of homeostasis but can still be RNG. t
The medication might be affected by proxy of food intake, nutrients absorbed/depleted, the mood board of your fucking microbiome, whatever. Something you tolerated well before could suddenly start causing problems. If someone is on multiple medications that can have direct or roundabout effects on serotonin, or potentiate each other in any way, it's reasonable to assume that when that patient starts to feel aggresion/irritability/agitation that these medications are not working the way that they're generally expected to for them. It may not be at levels of serotonin syndrome, but might be a sign that someone is getting close to toxic levels and they resolve again with x event.

No. 1289001

I just hate myself because my anxiety makes simple things that should be easy seem like impossible tasks. I get so mad at myself, trying to figure out ways to overcome it and getting a little better, been going to therapy for 10 years to work on it. Then I see other people who claim to have anxiety get babied over it and it frustrates me because I'd rather die than speak openly about it. I don't know why it makes me so bitter to see them, maybe because their anxiety looks like 1/5 of what mine has done to me. I couldn’t even leave my home for half a year and this girl is like "I'm so anxious about my interview tomorrow" and all the empty "you can do it babe!!!!" replies just seem patronizing to watch

No. 1289012

>>1288836
>>1289001
Why no one reads the OP jesus christ

No. 1289110

>>1289012
How did the Wellbutrin post deviate from the OP guidelines?

No. 1289152

>>1288948
…so you agree it's not fucking serotonin syndrome
I'm not saying there's no issues with being on a combo of psych meds that can interact, or that you shouldn't talk to your doctor about new onset rage issues after changing medication but come on it's clearly not serotonin syndrome.
I'm scottish , I like to fucking swear and come across abrupt, it's my birth right.

No. 1290595

>>1289110
Because the thread is not about your own disorder, it's about ranting about other people's disorders.

No. 1290767

>>1290595
Oh I guess you're right. The OP isn't very clear.

No. 1294623

Not sure how a lot of the disorders mentioned here that involve hurtful behaviour, lack of remorse and empathy etc. are disorders tbh. Any average scrote, or retarded teenage boy who takes after him, complaining about women, fairness and "wokeism" would exhibit all the traits for them and more.

No. 1295075

>>1289012
Summerfags, twitterfags, and lack of reading comprehension. So, all three.

No. 1295674

>>1294623
The Y chromosome is literally a disorder in itself at this point

No. 1298152

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ugggh so i'm responsible for managing the team at my workplace and we just hired a bunch of new people and one of them (who seemed FINE during the entire interview process jfc) came into my office on Day One to ask for "accommodations for her disability at work"

her "disability"? fucking BPD! (sorry, "C-PTSD"… TOTALLY different, 100%, not at all a cope for people who can't handle acknowledging how their dysfunction hurts other people)

thankfully i'm not HR so as her supervisor i'm not actually ALLOWED to handle that request, just put her in contact with the people that do, but what in the everloving fuck does an accommodation for BPD look like working retail?

is she going to ask for a badge that says "don't hold me responsible for any of my behavior or actions because my therapist says otherwise"?

does she get a free pass to go apeshit on her coworkers for not reading her mind (as she ALREADY did on Day One because she got mad someone was showing her how to do something (ON, AGAIN, HER VERY FIRST DAY) that she apparently already knew how to do? The fact that she wasn't even there 8 hours before I already had to do a debrief with the person she lashed out at to let him know he didn't do anything wrong by trying to help the new person? Spare me.

of course too she was oversharing the entire time she was in this meeting with me (despite me saying "I don't need to know anything about your accommodation request" – bpd-fags really think everyone else is just as interested in them as they are, don't they?)

she kept going on about how something "really bad" happened to her (didn't ask, please shut up) and that she's done a lot of "amazing healing work"… bitch where? because all i see is an open wound stumbling around and getting blood all over the fucking shop and team that I'm responsible for… on DAY ONE?

also hate the bpd-fag belief that they are the ONLY ones in the world that have EVER experienced trauma… never mind the possibility that some of us actually own our shit and work on coping within ourselves to move past the past rather than just lashing out at everyone around us and using a diagnosis to deflect owning our actions?

my head is like spinning trying to figure out what red flags i missed (if any) during her interview… most embarrassing part by far is that this bitch is older than me by a good 15+ years and is acting like this… here i was thinking it would be good for our (kinda young) team to have an older coworker to look up to. boy, i couldn't have been more fucking wrong on that one, could i?

here's hoping she fucks up severely enough before her 3 months' probation is up/before she has a chance to rip our entire team apart with her shitty overreactions and confrontational behavior, because otherwise my job is about to get a lot harder. pray 4 me farmers

No. 1298158

>>1298152
sage bc samefag but i forgot to mention that after she blew up at her coworker for showing her how to do something she already apparently understood… she came to ME and asked if I could make sure she didn't have to work any shifts with him moving forward since she doesn't like his "aggressive energy". because he tried to help her on her first day at work.

imagine being in your 40s and thinking this was how a workplace (or an adult, for that matter) functions

No. 1298169

>>1298152
You sounds like an unhinged bpd-chan in denial.

No. 1298174

>>1298169
lmao sorry to disappoint but no. notice i'm the one responsible for fixing these problems and not the one causing them?

when you seek out help for your damage rather than letting it fester you can develop into a functioning adult. some of us know that first-hand.

No. 1298204

>>1294623
The entire BPD criteria is just baseline behavior for men

No. 1298376

>>1294623
I know plenty of assholes who if pushed into a psychiatrists chair.. they meet the criteria for bpd. But they're men and men are more avoidant of psychiatrists and admitting fault. I know its been said here before but bpd has to be crazy overdiagnosed in women given how many bunny boiler males just exist and never catch a label over it.

No. 1298380

>>1298174
>i'm the one responsible for fixing these problems and not the one causing them
Common BPDfag belief. Your entire post was unhinged.

No. 1298403

>>1298204
YUP YUP.

No. 1304345

spoiler for dark thoughts, hopelessness.

I feel like I have been making positive steps towards getting out of a depressive state, but looking back these past two years it doesn't feel like I've been struggling less: I feel like my despair has gotten stronger. It doesn't correlate because I have been doing things that should be good steps towards getting out of the tar. I moved to a new place because I'm going back to school; I should be happier because I wanted to do higher education but I feel empty. I cleaned my new place almost literally top to bottom and keep it clean, but now that I don't have my deep cleaning obsession to keep me going I'm empty again. I have been exercising, especially going running whenever I feel like my anxiety overwhelms me, but even though in the moment feels good the heaviness returns after a short while. Everything I do to correct my tendency to succumb to my dark thoughts feels punishing. But then I get angry at myself when I indulge in time-wasting things when I should be productive. I know I should do those things longer than a couple of months to see results but… I've been 'functional' for so long and it has yielded me minimal results. It's like I'm walking up stairs while two ball chains swing at my ankles. Being 'bad' and vegetating feels too good not to indulge in sometimes.

I don't wanna live. More specifically, I don't want to live as me, as this perpetually sad person who has to put in so much effort just to do what is right or necessary. I won't kill myself because my parents love me and doing that would destroy them, so I'll go on. But it tortures me that my parents are such good people and they have me as a daughter, who always has these melancholic problems, anxieties, and disappoints. They're normal, good people who should have a better kid and not deal with how hard I am. They say I am not, but I feel like a disappointment. I don't even wanna tell them how much I'm struggling right now because I don't want to cause them more pain and worries than I already have.
I haven't been sleeping well either which is even more of a blow because now I can't escape anymore. I wake up mad to be awake and tired to have to go on another day. Existence is hard but I don't see an out of it without hurting others. And I'm scared. I want things to stop.

No. 1305836

>>1304345
Post in the vent thread

No. 1308504

Anxiety. People with it always seem to be major control freaks who make everything about you accommodating their anxiety.

No. 1334161

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Shit like this makes me livid. I had my heavy dose of depression too and if I had disposable brushes (what a waste, zoomers are obsessed with sustainability and then do shit like this), teeth wipes (ew) and a mouthwash on the night stand, I would've killed myself by now.
Self indulgence never helped anyone and implying that depression is valid uwu by telling people they can literally rot in bed all day is not doing favours.
Get up, brush ur teeth and wash ur ass, you stink. People on tiktok that give you tips on how fully bathe (kek) in your illness don't love you and if you romanticize/humour this kind of stuff instead of addressing it as a problem, you need a different diagnosis for attention whoring.

https://twitter.com/ThisBeLi/status/1567574160083140612

No. 1334229

>>1334161
Hah, I've seen this video few days ago and it annoyed me too but for a whole different reason. It's heavily promoting useless consumerism with all of these disposable shitty items, just like you say, but from my experience being depressed if I'm so low I cant bring myself to do something as simple as brushing teeth, it sure as hell wont be easier with disposable brushes and teeth wipes, so these advises are beyond ridiculous.

No. 1334256

>>1334229
This is how it will end up: moldy tooth wipes and disposable shit piling up everywhere. It's like shitting in a diaper and then tossing it in a corner since if you can't get out of bed you sure can't be bothered to throw things out.
If people can get up to piss and shit, they can get up to rinse their mouth in the sink. Depressed people need motivation, not tips to feel even more miserable in bed.

No. 1334602

>>1334256
>>1334161
You sound like one of those "depression is a choice, rise and grind" moids and if you think that's less obnoxious than people who proudly post their dxs in their bios and think it's so special to be mentally ill, think again.

No. 1334680

>>1334161
It’s just harm reduction. Yeah depressed people stink and they don’t care because depression makes you stop giving a shit. You’re not going to die from not showering but not brushing your teeth will cause lifelong issues that are extremely painful. Issues that will last much longer than the depression does.

>>1334229
This is a good point though. Plus it’s not like three (3) wasteful things is actually easier than just using a dry toothbrush or a paper towel.

No. 1334717

>>1334602
Nonner, you're in a thread where people shit talk disorder. Criticize borderlines no one care, criticize depressed people everybody mad.
>>1334680
Exactly, letting your teeth rot and decay is very dangerous and will lead to a fuckload of infections and will cost a ton to fix, especially if you're very young. These zoomers on tiktok not getting this is so stupid, since they're talking about depression as if it is a curse and not something you can get help for.

No. 1335700

>>1334161
This is literally fucking insane, yikes. You know most of the people using depression to literally rot in their own shit are moids. Yas queen let's normalize men not doing the bare minimal effort to have minimum hygiene like a few centuries ago, let's cuddle them poor babies uwu then wonder why men are lazier and most misogynist now than they've been in fucking decades.

>>1334602
Go wash your goddamn ass, the only one who literally thinks like a scrote itt is you.

No. 1335708

>>1304345
This is a month old but anon you sound like a good person who is in a down spot. Don't give up, it's hard to adjust when you start living in your own but the only thing that doesn't change is that things are always changing and the weird sensation will go away. You are in a good path and it will definitely change things are you are being active, you just have to have patience by now.

If you read this i think you should get a pet, it will definitely keep you company and help take your mind off the shitty sensation and help get you through the change. I'll pray for you and your success.

No. 1344427

>>1334602
Depression isn't a choice but recovery is, and at some point you indeed need to 'rise and grind' to have a normal life, seethe.

No. 1344466

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I recently found this repulsive sob story article about a male autist who got caught with CP and it really shows how much coddling autistic moids receive. I don't know how anyone can actually think an adult male doesn't know child porn is bad and believe his excuse that he found it by clicking on online ads.

The authors are actually calling for not placing autist sex criminals on sex offender registries too. I hate depraved autistic males and their sycophants so much it's unreal.

https://www.spectrumnews.org/features/deep-dive/when-autistic-people-commit-sexual-crimes/

No. 1344473

>>1344466
Watch child porn, rape your own mother, boil bunnies and walk away free. Such is the life of an autistic man.

No. 1344479

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>>1344466
>For autistic people who find themselves facing a criminal charge, understanding how the features of autism may have contributed to their behaviour can be vital context for their defence. In this insightful book, Nick Dubin explores how and why autistic people get caught up in the criminal justice system. He delves into what steps can be taken to prevent autistic people committing crimes and what should be done to ensure their fair and appropriate treatment if they are charged with a crime. It covers everything from prevention to the aftermath of sentencing, including available counselling and therapy.

>Nick’s personal experience and meticulous research shows that criminal justice can be an oppressive system that misunderstands and stigmatizes autistic people, especially low-risk individuals and those with less criminal responsibility.


This pedo actually wrote a book about autists being oppwessed by the criminal justice system. What a reprehensible human being.

No. 1344487

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>>1344466
fucking retarded pedo

No. 1344493

>>1344487
Okay, let’s take their word for it. Let’s say developing an addiction to child pornography in males is as easy as clicking the wrong link. Let’s say they’re so mentally fragile, any psychiatric diagnosis makes them predators. Why are they allowed to be in charge of anything? Why are they teaching in schools? Why are they permitted to be in public spaces, among children? Clearly they’re not fit to rule or have any personal freedoms.

No. 1347369

I wish all people who suicide bait constantly a good successful attempt.
As a common person and not a trained nor paid professional, I don't have time nor mental energy to deal with people who take themselves hostages to get what they want and I think everyone will be better without them

No. 1347399

>>1344479
Autistic people should be allowed to do crime

No. 1347404

>>1344479
This makes me want to a-log. Only ever moids get this kind of leniency, Autistic women never. We're held to the standard of "You should know better" even when we don't. This male consults for a school, he knows better

No. 1347525

>>1347369
My dad did this for a while every time he and my mom would fight. All it did was make us anxious and worried. Fuck him for pulling that shit. I now can’t take anyone who openly says they’re going to commit suicide seriously.

No. 1352668

autistic men. i went to art school and there were two notable ones. First is a furry who would browse nsfw on school computers and openly draw muscle fetish art. He traced frames from Disney movies and i heard second hand he jerked it into a shared dorm trashcan. He also had an affinity for natural disaster and live leak -esque footage.
Second harassed girls on his love quest to the point where serval had no contact orders against him. Would walk around campus having loud speaker phone conversations and sometimes sperg out and scream at profs. Apparently had been there for over four years and hadn't graduated. Obsessed with family guy, art was just a butch hartman clone.

No. 1352669

>>1352668
Kek there was an autistic furry at my school that reminds me the one you brought up. He openly drew NSFW muscle fur in the school computer labs and left drawings of that scattered around the student lounge. At least he didn’t seem to have antisocial tendencies. Why the fuck are they all like this?

No. 1352672

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>>1352669
can't help but share.

No. 1352674

>>1352672
LMAO that is worse than I even imagined.

No. 1356865

I finished the same undergradute program with an autistic guy, now we work at the same institution (even though I work a role in our field and he's basically warehouse worker, so we don't meet). I still haven't deleted or unfollowed his Facebook since I want to know if he posts something about me without my consent or just anything about our workplace (he had problems like that with other women during our school years). His special interest for some reason was always family-planning, and I mean the whole thing from like pregnancy to preparing to be a parent, he took multiple online courses, invaded female groups, wrote creepy poetry he shares with everyone, even handed his poetry over to women's shelters' workers when they came to hold a lecture on our campus. He's so fucking invasive and since he's autistic, he has no idea most of the time, and people usually are scared to remove him, since somehow his paretns did manage to discipline all sexuality out of him. Even though he's so fucking interested in childbirth, I'm not even sure he actually know "how babby is formed". I'm so glad I don't have to see him daily anymore.

No. 1361665

not to knock anyone with depression because like we all have our flaws, but the people who let their bathroom sinks go and collect piles of hair and grime? or their cat litterboxes overflow or dishes rot in the sink? Super fucking annoying if you're roommates.

No. 1361728

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I don't even think Psychopathy/ASPD manifests itself in the glib salesman, motivated, career orientated moid that much anymore with Gen Z. I think they're basically all becoming shut in welfare NEETs that watch porn and browse 4chan all day.

The second most common correlation with internet addiction disorder is an anti-social personality (the first is depression of course). Realizing this really took away a lot of my empathy for these types of shut-ins. They're not all insecure, half of them are just porn addicted parasites.

No. 1365723

All of them in men. Rarely any of them in women. Literally insert any mental disorder. Every autistic woman I've met has been really chill, nice, and helpful. Every borderline woman I've met only vents her anger to herself and is often overly empathetic. Autistic men, borderline men though? They'll go full Redditor, defend pedophilia, be sexually creepy, commit domestic violence, poison your food, who knows.

No. 1365743

>>1352672
Is that Todd?

>>1344466
ew, not an excuse. I hate how autism gets scapegoated like this. Will agree that the autistic women I've met have all been really chill by comparison

No. 1366288

>>1365723
I wish that were true, but my sister with BPD falsely accused me (her sister) of longterm sexual and physical abuse because my leaving for college triggered her sense of abandonment and she split on me. I ended up getting kicked out my house, had to drop out of school due to depression, and eventually was taken to court where luckily the state saw she was full of shit. (she suddenly had "new memories" when the proceedings started.) She activity attempted to separate me from any friends or support systems I had and complained to my parents that I hadn't suffered any consequences because I was barely able to keep my life together. She and others like her are very broken people, but cluster B's and other personality disorders unfortunately do not get better/worse depending on gender.

No. 1366360

can‘t deal with borderline personality diseased bitches. you can’t trust them because they‘ll larp whole ass personas based on what they think you want to hear so that you‘ll validate them. how is it even validating to them when they get validated for things they don‘t even truly believe themselves? i hate contradictory sentiments (especially when it comes to political ideology, get a spine jfc) and from my experience if you have a strong opinion about something and are vocal about it bpd bitches will absorb that and act like they share your point of view then turn around and act the exact same with another person who has completely opposing views. so incredibly fake and devoid of any own formed thought. and then the constant whining and seeking validation with them, god damn bitch either you do it or you don‘t but posting five instagram stories about how hard everything is and how anxious you are and yada yada is so incredibly annoying and i know multiple bpd bitches who do exactly that. no one fucking cares! bpd is main character syndrome while having no personality to make up for it, it’s just constant mirroring, skinwalking, lying, whining and crying victim with these bitches. they’re always making the worst most unhealthy choices too and they do it purposely despite knowing better. it‘s a useless waste of time befriending them because any advice is lost on them and anything coming from them is most likely not honest at all and just a facade for attention and validation. i could go on for hours i really hate borderline bitches that much

No. 1366364

>>1365723
autist women are definitely not chill in general, you must have gotten lucky. autist pick mes are among the worst pick mes ever.

No. 1366366

>>1366364
autistic women are beautiful, divine beings sent from the goddess herself nonna

No. 1366370

>>1366366
you say that but some anons actually think this.

No. 1366371

>>1366370
I am serious

No. 1366382

>>1366366
My bestie is great though, so some are.

No. 1366457

Entitlement.
BPD.
Y Chromosome.
These are the ingredients to make the most insufferable human beings to walk the earth. Why did I say Y chromosome three times? Kek.
As a potential BPD chan myself it is greatly disturbing to stare at a more twisted version of yourself in the mirror amplified to 100. Seeing the worst parts of your illness on display and open to the world. Projecting outward instead of inward with their self hatred, all the entitlement in the world for why their egos and feelings matter the most, and that everyone else's are secondary. Blames everyone for their own issues, never themselves. And let's not forget, if you happen to "cross" (i.e. call them out for their toxic behavior) or abandon one, they will pull out all the stops to ruin your life through any means necessary. Not saying female BPDs aren't capable of such things, as seen upthread, but the pure aggression and fragility fueling the war for BPD moids makes it much more dangerous.
Just don't do it.

No. 1366511

>>1366460
I have no idea what you're talking about but if this is an abortion thing you are wayyy off the mark. I am talking about dealing with BPD moids from experience, plain and simple.

No. 1366571

>>1366288
jeez, sorry to hear that. yeah i meant more in a general consensus they're less likely to cause damage than moids, but of course bpdchans in general are quite unhinged.
>>1366366
based

No. 1366688

>>1366457
>Entitlement.
>BPD.
>Y Chromosome.
>These are the ingredients to make the most insufferable human beings to walk the earth
I read this in the voice of the powerpuff girls intro kek

No. 1366977

unironically people with anxiety disorders are starting to annoy me. mainly because its used as a cope to never improve as a person or avoid basic adult responsibilities like calling for an appointment. or people mistake totally normal feelings like being afraid of doing a speech in front of a crowd as "i totes have anxiety!!" no you're just a normal person

its just so fucking annoying and dumb. i have an anxiety disorder and i don't remember being this pathetic. i don't think it even bothers me as much anymore and im about to undiagnose myself with it because people who claim they have it are so obnoxious and wimpy that i cannot relate at this point. idk why people are so desperate to infantilize themselves nowadays

No. 1367040

>>1366688
That's the joke anon, kek. But glad you did

No. 1367668

>>1366977
It's also a way to get everyone to tiptoe on eggshells around them. You can't do anything because it'll trigger their angzayetee and then they'll get mad at you. Your triggers are your own responsibility.

No. 1367792

bpd/cluster b personality disorders. I hqve a roomate that I suspect is bpd and she's always getting mad at me and making my other roommate ignore me for the dumbest shit.

No. 1367846

>>1361728
I think that distinction has existed for a good while, I think the last era where (non-noble) men were kicked out of their homes if they refused to contribute in any way was before the world wars. Since then there were always psychopaths that at least had ambitions and ones that got by living as parasytes on either their parents or the state, or in rarer cases, their spouse. They all lack human compassion and have zero love for the people that keep them alive, but at least the former develops some skills, and contributes to society, even if it's not something they care for. It's really scary listening to 4chan scrotes or reading maniphestos of shooters and realizing they don't even see their mothers or anyone taking care of them as a person, but just like some extension of themselves, like some automated support system.

No. 1368093

>>1367668
So few people seem to get this. Unless you have some very rare and specific triggers, you are going to encounter them throughout your life. The point isn't to constantly avoid them and screech about trigger warnings and shit, the point is to learn how to handle yourself when exposed. Every person I've met with anxiety are the most coddled and obnoxious people ever.

No. 1368111

>>1368093
>Every person I've met with anxiety are the most coddled and obnoxious people ever.
Kek 7/10

No. 1368346

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>>1365743
His favorite film was actually Song of the South. He hand drew a massive poster of it and hung it up on his dorm room door. I'm assuming fox and the hound was a close second. Here's some more milky art of his, rabbit cop fursona.

No. 1369317

I know it's impossibile but ALL personality disorders need to be diagnosed by how those affect that person's relatives, friends and lover.
The therapists should listen to both sides and put them in front of the abuse they cause.
Always pats on the back for the poor uwu depressed bpd/asp chan, while their loved ones fall into an anxiety and depression spiral due to them.

No. 1369710

Where do you go when you’re not really mentally ill anymore but you need to talk about the aftermath? Had PTSD, don’t anymore after a decade of treatment, but now things come up that are sort of just… observations of patterns of behavior from being mentally ill for so long? I think if left to my own devices I could develop a personality disorder by deciding what aspects about myself are “good” or “bad.” Mundane stuff that you don’t need to be mentally ill to have or do but are still unwanted and caused by the trauma: guilt around spending money, talking about yourself too often or too loudly and generally being a bore (caused by a decade of therapy IMO,) anxiety about the status of a healthy relationship i.e. always waiting for the other shoe to drop, etc. If I go to a new therapist I feel like they’re going to want to rediagnose me if for no other reason than to bill insurance and I would rather swing it so I don’t have to retraumatize myself or end up focusing on the wrong thing when really I just need someone to tell me when I’m headed down a dead end.

No. 1370776

People with unchecked abandonment issues. Who don't seek help. Who don't get any better over the years and who actively chase everyone away in their maladaptive attempts to cling to them.. then cry some more because everyone abandons them. Its not a mystery why they leave. If there was a lil self awareness there it wouldn't be so bad but theres none. Everyone who leaves is a bad guy.

Like I obviously have sympathy over the fact that it stems from somewhere, a childhood event where you'd no power? But when adults date and end up driving every partner they date crazy.. you can't blame them partners for 'abandoning' you. You chased them away. You were a misery to try and love. You were paranoid. You tested their loyalty and their patience. You gave in to your impulses for years and didn't think to get help instead. If it becomes such an obvious pattern surely you have to take some ownership instead of demonizing all your exes for simply leaving you. People are allowed to leave. People are allowed to seek out happpiness and healthier relationship with someone else once you've truly exhausted them. You're not owed eternal undying loyalty and patience just because someone agreed to date you in the first place.

Holding your past over people as a way to emotionally hold them captive to you is some shitty behaviour. Even if them leaving fucks you up.. nobody is an asshole for leaving a relationship that wasn't making them happy. They're a whole person too who has needs and autonomy over their own life. It not all about you.

I probably sound like I dated someone like this. I just know someone who never seems to get the message that breaking up isn't abuse. He's insufferable.

No. 1370785

>>1370776
>People with unchecked abandonment issues. Who don't seek help. Who don't get any better over the years and who actively chase everyone away in their maladaptive attempts to cling to them.
Seems to be an extremely common phenomenon nowadays. I feel like a lot of bpd-like behavior is promoted and normalized online, meanwhile the people who leave are demonized as coldhearted and crazy because "how can you not like clingy people, they just love you so much, how could you ever hate that?". Also while they want endless sympathy for their abandonment issues, they think people with avoidance issues are literally the devil, but they also won't leave people with avoidance issues alone and actively seek them out. It's like they want to be special and be the one who magically "fixes" them by smothering them and constantly testing them.

No. 1371914

>>1370776
Sounds like my childhood best friend. She told me I can't leave her because her father walked out on them when they were little, even though she wore my patience thin and was constantly trying to think I was wrong to feel used. Then just straight up told me I was like her father (who was some shady businessman who had to flee the country).

No. 1372999

I love how so many anons name disorders that have lack of compassion/empathy as if that isn't literally every moid aged 13-30.

No. 1373005

>>1372999
Show me a moid who grew empathy after 30.

No. 1373060

>>1370785
Not all people with abandonment issues are clingy. Some are the extreme opposite so they can hurt themselves even more.

No. 1373068

>>1373060
Be careful. Don't just think they're uwu hurting themselves and that you can fix them and would be doing them a favor by trying to force them to stay with you. If you're of the opinion that they're just hurting themselves by removing themselves from your life or are trying to avoid being in your life in the first place, let them, it's not your problem.

No. 1373079

male borderline specifically. women with borderline, sure, it can get messy. but they have the capability for empathy and even the ones who "don't try" try a lot more than males. when a moid has bpd it's basically a guarantee for cruel destructive behavior. i'll go in-patient with a city of emotionally unstable women before i spend a weekend under the same roof with a bpd moid. that fuck will kill me in cold blood for asking him not to pee on the toilet seat and cry to the first pair of eyes and booby he sees for sympathy.

No. 1373133

>>1372999
The thing is that "normal" egoistic moids suck, but their excuses for why they don't contribute to society/the household also suck, and barely hold up in a court of public that aren't just men like them. ADHD/autist males hide behind their conditions and women even get told "yeah, he might creep everyone out in the workplace, but it's not like he can help it, he's on the spectrum".

No. 1373255

>>1373068
It's one thing to remove oneself from someone's life impromptu, or by cheating, or whatever, and deal with the debris. It's another to remove oneself from everyone's life. I'm talking about serial fuckupers here.

No. 1373485

>>1373005
kek they don't, it's just the flavour is more normalised after 30 and nobody bats an eye anymore

No. 1399270

my bipolar friend who is the flakiest person ive ever met

we'll talk and have a great convo, maybe make plans, then she disappears, rinse and repeat

No. 1399320

>>1373079
Male borderlines are literally just autistic but their special interest is hurting people. Like there’s nothing else going on in there.

No. 1399759

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>>1399270
kek, my bipolar ex gf did the exact same shit and it got so bad i had to break up with her. spoilered is… im also diagnosed bipolar of many years thats why i knew she was full of shit and that she could do better

No. 1399833

>>1399759
it’s annoying and i wouldn’t even put up with it if she wasn’t one of the most genuinely kind, good-hearted people ive known. not a mean bone in her body. i just can’t expect her to be reliable for social things

No. 1399880


No. 1399932

>>1399880
so true

No. 1401431

bpdchans. idk if this is a common thing with them but they have the mentality of "oh you're mad, that means I'm right" and spew sheer deflection.
god forbid they get into social issues. either they're really sjwish or they start thinking people talking about their personal struggles is them being an asshole. I guess it's all about them.

No. 1401829

What the fuck is with people with BPD and their need to nuke every bridge the second they decide they're done with someone? Why can't they just be like "hey, sorry, but I don't want to be friends/together anymore"? Why do they have to be so over the top, hurt you so unnecessarily, and turn everyone else against you too?

I'm not even shocked, she's done this to so many fucking people. I was a fool for ever letting her back into my life.

No. 1401830

>>1373079
I dated a BPD moid once and the psychological abuse he put me through was worse than anything I've ever endured in my life. I don't fuck with BPD girls anymore, because they're also toxic barrels of waste, but the moids are pretty much guaranteed to destroy you on another level.

No. 1401994

Tips for treating anxiety without pharmaceuticals? Ever since I got pregnant I keep getting intense waves of anxiety that come out of nowhere maybe twice a day and last about an hour. I tried square breathing and teas, it helps a little. Not much else. The fact that stress is bad for the baby is stressing me out even more

No. 1402016

>>1401829
hatred.
>>1401431
lmfao I had to deal with a BPD-chan who said I was being a cunt for talking about how racism affected me and my family
>>1401994
Maybe check with a doctor first, that sounds like the anxiety comes from like pregnancy hormones or something too, so maybe look into that, sleep schedule and good diet too

No. 1402401

>>1401994
My tip is reading the OP and instead using the correct thread in /g/ meant for mental health issues, or the baby talk thread.

No. 1402580

Probably not too deep but anyone who identifies as asexual or aromantic. It's clear they have some mental issue like autists whose way of showing feelings is obviously different from the expected norm, depression/anxiety making one feel numb and apathetic. If not then it's quirky 13 year olds who are obviously 13, or people who know they get zero action so they cope by saying they can't help it since they're ace.

No. 1403658

>>1402580
I am asexual and often wonder about it myself. I am 30 now and was never horny or attracted to anybody. It's different for everybody I guess but for me personally I legit think it's autism that prevents me from understanding other people well enough to fall in love with them (can do it with fictional characters because they are like spirits or things that exist in my head, so they are part of me even if someone else created them).
The lack of sexual urges might be something health related not sure. I generally rarely feel emotions, especially not excitement, fear or happiness and I barely ever felt physical pain so it's probably related.

No. 1403764

>>1370776
>>1370785

Ironically, I been on both sides. I been the one with abandonment issues, and been the one demonized for leaving an unhealthy relationship. I am seeking help for it but a lot of work and time goes into addressing core issues. ( Not defending people with unchecked abandonment)

No. 1403781

>>1344427
Needed to read this, thanks.

No. 1403812

>>1368093
Autistic people in fandom are like this. They screech about not having the right tags or trigger warnings in everything and then writers get chewed out because they didn't coddle their audience. Fuck that.

No. 1403843

>>1401431
I've dealt with, and am currently dealing with the similar trait of cluster B gangstalking and misinterpretation of messages, and then deletion of chatlogs being interpreted as "Oh you deleted the chat so you're trying to cover up for you're bad behavior because ur an AbooSer" when you're really just trying to cover you're own ass and make sure these psychos don't twist your words into anything else they could use for their own delusional agendas

No. 1403879

>>1368093
The people I know irl that have triggers because of fucked up shit that happened barely show it when they get triggered and usually leave the room or cringe while every person that behaves like perma-onliners irl whose cause of trauma was revealed at some point turned out to be a liar.
It's just a manipulative method sheltered children use to control others. They will make a long list of triggers that are basically just things they don't like and prohibit everybody else to talk about them and call you ableist or problematique if you do it either way to start a witch hunt. Notice how none of them have traumas you would expect some people to have, you never hear about them being survivors of accidents or catastrophes, war or anything else, it's always triggers related to shipping shit they don't like.

No. 1404471

I really hate having severe anxiety. It's sadly not something people can easily accommodate since it's not like people can magically know what will and will not set me off, and life is unpredictable, shit happens, and sometimes the most minuscule thing will make me panic and lose my composure, or even just nothing at all and I just feel my heart racing and this intense fear and feeling of vulnerability.

I often end up shying away from people and just hiding in my room which isn't productive at all. Sometimes I take pills that make me fall asleep when I panic or get extremely anxious, but it's only a quick fix, and of course, I'm unproductive in that state. I hate how I intensely fixate on the smallest little details or the most innocuous comments, but I've at least been getting better at that, by telling myself that those little things don't matter and that not everyone is out to get me or hateful, and I'm just overreacting, which oddly works and makes me much happier. And the sense that ultimately nobody truly cares about my own bullshit is deeply soothing in that I know people don't fixate on every little fuck-up I do and it's just my own paranoid imagination.

My two kitties calm me down, especially my tuxedo cat whom I've had since high school. She's such a sweetheart and makes all the fear and bad thoughts melt away. She's so sweet and lovely and I love her so much. I wish I could just be with my cats all day, but that's not gonna happen. It's reassuring to know that I can immediately go back home once classes are finished and be with my kitties and they can calm me down. I don't force them to, though, since I know that's bad for their mental health.

Fuck anxiety and I wish it didn't run my life like it did. It's not the only problem I have, but it definitely makes a big impact. At least it's not something that could actually realistically kill me like other disorders, but it still sucks a lot to have and I feel like there's this belief that anxiety is only a minor disorder, like just being a little shy, when it can be downright horrifying even on medication. And I start going completely off the deep end and am delusional and paranoid when I'm unmedicated and can't even leave the house without breaking down completely. I know SSRIs suck, but they let me actually live my life and not be a paranoid shut-in so I'll happily take the side effects.

No. 1405464

>>1403879
Kids who post their "triggers" online get zero sympathy from me, like if someone uses them against you then you had it coming. I won't say you deserved it because it's still their fault for being the abuser but you had it coming.
>>1404471
Sorry to hear that nona but this belongs in the vent thread. Your cats sound very sweet though.

No. 1406504

Does the Y chromosome alone count as a mental illness? I'd take every woman with every toxic mental disorder to exist over the Y chromosome I think

No. 1407429

Anyone who unironically calls themselves a "healer/empath/feeler" and reposts "spiritual" quotes while thinking they're oh so amazing and empathic unlike such evil demons in the world. Literal narcissism with a mask.

No. 1407433

>>1407429
i agree hard here. people who say that shit have no introspection.

No. 1408413

Any parents who obsessively post on social media about their kids is dangerously close to becoming Munchausen's imo. They also tend to be those spiritual empath white women like in >>1407429 kek. Seeing their unsolicited opinions about any social issue makes me want to a-log.

No. 1408420

Honestly I feel like everybody that behaves like an asshole and hurts others emotionally claims to have some mental illness nowadays so depending on whether they are lying or not I might hate all mental illnesses or none of them. I surely hate how it became a trend to be a piece of shit and then blame your own victim for being angry or hurt because they attack you, the bipolar-whatever/autist/anxiety-plagued ass/borderliner/shizophrenic/depressive sociochopath whatever they call themselves. Of course it never matters that the victim might have some issues too, the good people are always those that scream loudly enough and tell everybody about their shit to make everybody else feel bad of ever attacking them.

I only witness young women pulling this shit though, so being around older people or men is all good but fuck the internet for starting this bullshit trend. I have my doubts that most of these people even are what they claim to be. If anything they are narcists, but you strangely never see anybody claiming to be that for once.

No. 1408454

>>1408413
I really feel bad for kids whose entire early childhood is all documented online now. Even if they grow up to decide they want to be as anonymous as possible, there’s so much info about them out there already.

No. 1408470

>>1344479
All male autists get the rope. I don't make the rules, sorry

No. 1408556

>>1403658
Look up alexithymia anon, a lot of austistic people deal with it
>t. autist

No. 1408591

i dislike female autists as much as male autists. The only positive thing i can say about them is thankfully they dont have nor the physical strength nor the social support to actually hurt people unlike their male counterparts, and that makes them less dangerous, true. But some people, specially people here mistakes that for "more likeable" but no. i would die to know how many of the actual female criminals have some shade of autism, i bet is high

No. 1409402

>>1408591
It's more that they're usually more empathetic and try to be (if they're genderspecial then it's a lost cause) because double X chromosomes. Y chromosome plus anything = moid shit show.

No. 1409904

>>1403658
Are you diagnosed autistic ? This is closer to the idea I had of a schizoid.

>>1408591
Not gonna say "all female autists" because I just don't believe I could be the only female sperg who isn't a complete degen, but I don't trust most of my peers either. They're incredibly skilled and knowledgeable at a first glance but always turn out to have some kind of fucked up fetish or at least one dangerously lacking moral value.

No. 1411703

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Moids. All of them. Especially the younger ones who will never ever develop a shred of empathy.

>>1409904
This

No. 1411734

>>1408591
You come to my house… `insult my own people to my face… REPORT REPORT REPORT

No. 1411893

Sure it's been posted about many times but I really don't have the patience for ADHDtards because they don't have the patience for anything themselves. Every one I've met is childish, lazy and stupid. They're all incredibly boring people too.

No. 1411898

I’ve never met a moid with ADHD that wasn’t fucking annoying and ultra retarded. The women I’ve met with ADD/ADHD are perfectly fine and I don’t think they’re boring at all but every male has some sort of mega autism alongside it and sperg out in a way that’s like mansplaining to the max. I could not give less of a shit about whatever they’re hyperfixated on because they talk about it in a way that’s so condescending. Maybe I just hate moids.

>t. adhd-chan

No. 1411899

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No. 1411917

>>1411898
I've known 2 ADHD males who both tried to guilt me into touching them all the time in similar ways, not reeeally sexually (but that was obviously the end goal, and they'd force "casual" hugs to be too tight and long so they could feel my chest), the third one with ADD hasn't done that at all and I wonder if that hyper part is related or purely anecdotal

No. 1411959

>>1411898
Moids are born condescending. That's just how it is. Mansplaining, whatever you call it.

>>1411893
Based. >t. ADHDer here

No. 1411963

>>1409904
Female autists are nowhere as bad as male autists but I agree, the one female autist I know used to work as a sex worker in Asia and she had a fetish for ugly 50 year guys

No. 1411965

>>1411917
Ew, I’m glad to not have known any in person then, moids are already greasy as fuck but I wouldn’t touch one with a ten foot pole since they would be 10x more unhygienic and I can’t imagine being forced into a tight hug with them. And they’re so unashamed of it too, I knew a moid that had no problem letting his toenails grow like claws, among other things but I don’t feel like ruining any Nonnas’ days. At least when women have ADHD they’re aware of the struggle but moids have no fucking awareness and don’t care at all.

>>1411959
Yeah I agree, it’s just idk what about ADHD makes then somehow even worse. Sorry about my sperging.

No. 1411974

>>1411965
moids have no awareness because they're taught to be that way. they never get encouraged to develop self awareness, everything they do since birth is coddled. Women with ADHD and other shit go through hell and back and we know what it's like, and even the rare ones that don't know still don't do shit because they're XX chromosomes and not a Y. I think it's less the ADHD and more just being male, but maybe I'm just a woman with ADHD lmao

No. 1412121

>>1347369
Based. If somebody tries to suicide bait me ever again I'm telling them to have fun with it and then cutting them off cold turkey.

No. 1412166

>>1409904
And god help you of they're handmaidens-pickmes because when they're, they're the "could be a Manson's wife" type.

No. 1412269

>>1298152
>sorry, "C-PTSD"… TOTALLY different, 100%, not at all a cope for people who can't handle acknowledging how their dysfunction hurts other people
kekkk this is so true, fake diagnosis that every bpdfag desperately wants to cling on to because it implies greater victimhood which is the most desirable trait in their eyes.

No. 1412276

>>1412269
i side-eye anyone who claims c-ptsd tbh. it's supposed to be from multiple traumatic events instead of a single one, but i still hear vets and refugees use plain ol' ptsd even though theirs count as repeated traumas. i only ever hear about c-ptsd from pds looking to excuse their latest crap action

No. 1412278

>>1412276
I’ve only ever hear c-ptsd from people with pd in their histories. Never any vets with ptsd or diagnosed ptsd patients. It just reminds me of how they’re trying to rebrand bpd as emotional deregulation disorder because “bpd has a stigma”.

No. 1412283

>>1412278
I have never heard about C-PTSD from a single therapist across 25 years. I hear about it plenty online from bippie-chans tho. I'm sure several of them do have trauma and/or emotional dysregulation, but that doesn't excuse how they treat others and touting a new sub-category of PTSD just for them really makes them look bad in the long run.
t. diagnosed PTSD

No. 1412332

>>1412283
I've been diagnosed with PTSD, although I'm sure it's C-PTSD, and I don't really see the connection with BPD. I go to a C-PTSD support group and everyone there is extremely restricted and presents more like someone with avoidant personality disorder than BPD. It seems like a disorder that would make you passive as fuck rather than whatever happens to BPD-chans.

No. 1412346

>>1412332
>presents more like someone with avoidant personality disorder
isn't that still a pd?

No. 1412354

I think all "enbies" are either autistic or just histrionic people.
Either case, I despise them

No. 1412358

>>1412346
NTA but yes. It’s a cluster C disorder rather than a B. It’s still a pd.

No. 1412375

>>1412346
>isn't avoidant personality disorder a personality disorder
Uh… yeah?

No. 1412377

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> Spend years of my life teaching people do things the right way;
> Truly believed most people are lazy-stupid;
> Get diagnosed with "OCPD" or whatever

I won't even seek treatment because I simply CAN'T SEE how I am wrong.
And I still believe most people don't work hard as they should (lazy), don't have an efficient way of thinking (stupid) and keep disappointing me.
I must be an insufferable cunt but its really hard to see myself as diseased and their lazy asses as normal.

No. 1412477

>>1412377
>I won't even seek treatment because I simply CAN'T SEE how I am wrong.
You and every single other person with a personality disorder.

No. 1412499

>>1412375
>>1412332
Not to medfag but AvPD (avoidant PD) is really quite rare mainly because it is a diagnosis of exclusion i.e. what can be explained by something like another personality disorder, PTSD, or an autism spectrum disorder is by definition not AvPD.

No. 1412581

>>1412332
this sounds dubious

No. 1412904

>>1412377
>its really hard to see myself as diseased and their lazy asses as normal.
>can't SEE how I am wrong
Yeah…you definitely have a PD and are the sort of person most of us would despise in daily life.

No. 1412911

>>1412377
Are you…seriously looking for sympathy? Or a trolling moid? Either way wtf.
>truly believed most people are lazy/stupid
If you seriously believe everyone's stupid and you're smart, then you're the one who's stupid, delusional, and everyone is normal. How does it feel putting down everyone for the slightest human mistake because your psychotic feefees keep getting ~disappointed~?

No. 1413026

>>1412377
>I simply CAN'T SEE how I am wrong.
But have you tried?

No. 1413093

>>1412911
>>1413026

Not looking for sympathy but I don't understand HOW can people sleep knowing a done task was not done to be the greatest it could be done.
At work, and when I was in college I frequently end up doing other's work/tasks because they do it poorly/don't care enough, or they would take too much time for being disorganized.

I will illustrate a random example: when I was at college, lots of colleagues would do they tasks and tests looking for the minimum to pass. Given a month for developing a project, they would wait until the last week. Passing exams is enough for most people.

For me it's a reason to think of myself unworthy of living. I need every detail to be perfect and rest assured that AT LEAST I tried every mental/physical resource in any task so I can cope when something do not goes well. I don't think I am the smartest but I do believe most people are quite lazy/dumb and keep waiting for someone to take charge of problems and solve them (and sometimes get quite used to it), but love to complain about problems. And very often people do it (being lax) ON PURPOSE because they know someone will do it. How can this be considered the "normal" and doing your best always is disordered?

No. 1413152

>>1413093
Some people do slack off if they don't think the thing is worth it, for most of the people in my Master's program just passing is enough, they want the paper. I'm the "weird" one for wanting to get As, since ultimately they don't matter, but I just enjoy studying and taking tests, so I want to do well.
But most people don't slack off everywhere, they just pick their battles. A lot of people can't do well at work and at school simultaneously, or it takes a huge toll on them mentally/physically. Most of quality management school of thoughts also gave up on focusing on "zero error" perfection, because it's actually really fucking costly.

No. 1413182

>>1413093
>For me it's a reason to think of myself unworthy of living. I need every detail to be perfect and rest assured that AT LEAST I tried every mental/physical resource in any task
Anon……if things like these make you feel genuinely worthless and you can't stand it, that is a disordered trait. If the majority of society is not like this, you are the disorder. Please seek treatment, this ingrained mentality is just going to harm and irritate you every time this happens.

No. 1413244

>>1413093
It's really simple anon: most people don't live to work to perfection, most people live to survive and attempt to enjoy their life after they meet their basic needs. Perfection isn't a motivator when doing less earns them just the same survival and leaves them with more energy to put towards things they actually enjoy doing.

No. 1413299

>>1412499
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply I thought people with C-PTSD actually have AvPD or anything. It was kind of a dumb comment to emphasis the difference with BPD that I have seen. Basically most C-PTSD people I have met are almost hermits, don't have social media presence, are scared of interacting with people, and have a very passive avoidant coping style. I just haven't experienced anything like I have seen with BPD-chans which I would associate with oversharing, dramatic events, trying to pull people toward them, conflict, feeling wronged by others and challenging them, etc. Of course they probably have the same underlying attachment issues but it seems like it's normally a completely different presentation so I don't get the strict association some people have. I have seen plenty of BPD-chans with C-PTSD on social media but for some reason I haven't noticed them in support groups, even open online ones.

No. 1413314

>>1413299
Bpd has 176 unofficial subtypes. But mostly breaks down to internal Vs external. Chances are the internal break down or the “quiet types” you don’t notice or mark bpd anon. You wouldn’t unless you were in a close relationship or a fp. Just because you haven’t seen it doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. The external pwbpd are just loud and in your face.

No. 1413316

>>1413314
Samefag but cptsd as someone with ptsd due to childhood abuse just sounds like the kids that had a genetic component for personality disorders in their development and suffered childhood trauma. It’s why they group cptsd patients in as “highly sensitive children” who undergo abuse.

No. 1413360

>>1413314
Maybe I am just defensive because I relate really strongly to C-PTSD but not at all to BPD and have never been diagnosed with a personality disorder. I was actually diagnosed with PTSD due to something that happened as an adult but I feel like 90% of my issues are caused by childhood trauma. Worth thinking about if I just have quiet BPD kek but I honestly don't relate to the relationship issues at all and I would never have a fp or anything like that. If I can ask, if you have PTSD due to childhood abuse how do you feel it is different from C-PTSD?

No. 1413396

I'm so stupid. All this time I thought C-PTSD meant PTSD originated from something that happened in their childhood… so childhood ptsd

No. 1413425

>>1413360

C-PTSD is newer and depending on who you ask and which dr. or foundation you can get very different answers, so this is just my take. Just to note I grew up surrounded by adults with pd (diagnosed but refused treatment) so I first hand got to see a lot of the behaviors and symptoms up close, so there’s personal exp mixed in.
>> I was actually diagnosed with PTSD due to something that happened as an adult.
That doesn’t surprise me, most people in adulthood get ptsd. C-ptsd according to to the c-ptsd foundation
>>The reason children are vulnerable to forming CPTSD is that children do not have the cognitive or emotional skills to understand what is happening to them. Since the abuse and neglect, they are experiencing is normally perpetrated by people they know and trust, to admit to themselves that these same people want to hurt them is akin to emotional suicide so they use other means to manage the trauma.
Just to compare this is Pranita Mainali et al. Cureus. 2020. Paper on BPD and childhood abuse:
>>Among multiple identified risk factors, one of the most influential elements is exposure to an adverse childhood experience in terms of emotional, physical, or sexual abuse. A cascade of neuromorphological and epigenetic changes occurs in response to these childhood stressors, which may have a strong link to the development of BPD.

But moving past PD and just into PTSD vs complex-ptsd.
The biggest difference on the surface is cognitive function and self awareness to me. The argument of the Dr.s supporting c-ptsd is that children who are very young don’t have the cognitive function to understand and process repeated early trauma. So the trauma is changing the brain structure and causing an unhealthy understanding of relationships.
First let’s go over PTSD and get some misconceptions out of the way:
PTSD long term has been mostly diagnosed in men and there’s a sex bias. For a long time they wouldn’t diagnose female rape victims with PTSD. We were “hysterical”. Even in the book the body keeps the score they talk about how hard it was for the vet that was assaulting women and how his ptsd stemmed from that. It ignored the trauma done to those women in a book about ptsd and wanted you to feel sympathy for the rapist. Ptsd can be caused by one traumatic event or multiple long term or high stress environments.
It’s typically broken down into four major symptom categories: intrusion symptoms, avoidance symptoms, arousal and reactivity symptoms, and cognition and mood symptoms.
Intrusion is flashbacks, nightmares, intrusive, frightening thoughts.
Flashbacks for me are the worse. Things like showers in the wrong environment can make my brain confused and “trigger my ptsd” and “it feels” like I have hands all over me. I can feel it, but seeing it always feels like it’s behind my eyes. Like there’s two realities going. One behind my eyes where there’s hands everywhere and one that’s real where there are none. I only explain because different people exp it differently. So maybe it helps?
Avoidance symptoms are actions you take to avoid thoughts, places, feelings, or situations that are a reminder of the traumatic event. Like I avoided letting people touch my ribs because it triggered me for a long time in a very difficult to manage way.
Arousal and reactivity symptoms is basically the hyper vigilant part of ptsd. It’s the stuff that makes you anxious. Makes you over reactive. Makes it hard to sleep. Trouble concentrating. Short tempered.
Then the final piece cognition and mood symptoms which present often times as difficulty enjoying activities that you used to like trouble remembering parts of the traumatic event, isolating from other people, ongoing feelings of fear, guilt, shame, and other negative emotions, persistent, negative beliefs about yourself, the world, and other people.
Most of the symptoms for c-ptsd and ptsd overlap to begin with. A lot of what I’ve seen personally is them argue the shame is greater in c-ptsd. Because children have to blame themselves because they can’t understand their caretakers or parents hurting them. There was a clear point I hit at like 13? where I wanted to die. I thought I deserved my childhood and it was my fault. I couldn’t handle being touched. I wouldn’t eat. I was up for days straight. I lashed out when people got to close. So one day I wanted to die and my brain stopped me right before and went, “Why?“ And “because I’m awful” or “because I feel bad” wasn’t enough. So I started to look at and question my environment and the truth came out. I wasn’t wrong I was abused. I wasn’t awful or monstrous I was a trauma victim having repeated trauma responses to stuff that had been done to me since I was a baby so it seemed normal.
It became this isn’t okay. It shouldn’t have happened. It didn’t stop the way my ptsd and trauma patterns affected me over night but the second it clicked. Really clicked. I realized the whole world isn’t my house. I could start to rationalize against the intrusive thoughts and the depression. That if I could get away from the trauma situation it would get better.
Paid for my counseling later on. Picked up lots of behavioral books (books on changing cognitive function directed at women) and started trying to get out and away. Got diagnosed with normal ptsd and major depression a couple years later.
All of the symptoms in ptsd line up with cptsd on the surface. The guilt, shame, difficulty trusting people is common in female assault victims even, but they argue the guilt and difficulty trusting people is unique to c-ptsd when you look up ptsd by itself it’s a symptom so I’m not sure I see their point? They argue c-ptsd requires more therapy and long term treatment, but ptsd also requires long term treatment and treatment plans most of the time and medications are the same for the two. They also say c-ptsd is from long trauma but ptsd can be caused by repeat or long trauma? So they have no differences they can prove in brain structure for c-ptsd. C-ptsd has only been a concept for a decade or two and it’s main differences aren’t really identifiable differences from ptsd unless we’re arguing it changes the brain similarly to pd like affecting the gabba and nervous system regulating but how do you prove that it’s not a subset of pd if it presents similarly and has the same causes?
My genuine opinion is that most c-ptsd patients are either ptsd patients (there’s not a distinct difference) or pwpd and doctors are trying to group things they don’t understand firsthand into categories. So it’s not that I’m saying you have bpd. You could have ptsd but a lot of the people who claim c-ptsd especially online are like my family members with bpd who use it to escape needing to improve because people are sympathetic to cptsd and not bpd.
Hopefully this makes sense.

No. 1413431

>>1413093
Im in uni right now and I see it this way: if I complete every task in all four of my classes to the absolute highest caliber, I would sacrifice a lot of time that I currently use for keeping my house tidy, walking my dog, preparing healthy meals, going to my family’s house and sleeping. I’d rather sacrifice a bit in all areas so I can continue to have all areas. There’s only so much time in a day.

No. 1414346

I've gotta vet new people in my life for abandonment trauma. At some point you realize that once you get close, you become a mommy/daddy replacement for them and they'll try to suck all the attention and energy they can get out of you. They don't care if you have boundaries or needs to be alone – in fact, sometimes such boundaries infuriate them and cause them to lash out at you with suicide baiting or name-calling, even ridiculous, abusive accusations. You're never just a friend. You become like a drug.

They need constant reassurance, a neverending stream of texts. If you stop texting back for one hour, you know they're suffering in mortal pain because of it, and it's just too much to take. If you can rationalize this fucked up relationship scenario into believing you're helping someone, it can make the friendship last a bit longer. Because you really do hate the thought of unintentionally hurting them and you want them to be happy.

But then, the next stage is realizing they don't care about your personality, your goals, they barely even want to hear your stories. You could be anyone. You're simply a warm source of human contact that must be constantly poised and at the ready to meet their demands at all times.

So, once you are uncomfortable from all the demands, all the "YOU'RE MAD AT ME"s, and you decide to break the friendship off … you know you've just proven to them that they're unworthy of love. They've fulfilled their self-fulfilling prophecy by being terrifying people. They'll hate you forever for being a human who needs time alone and needs to have privacy sometimes. They'll hate you for having one or two other friends besides them. They'll assume you're lying when you're actually sick and need to rest. Because they're so paranoid that everyone's going to leave them, their behavior gets so creepy. And everyone, in the end, does leave them.

No. 1414864

>>1414346
>>They don't care if you have boundaries or needs to be alone – in fact, sometimes such boundaries infuriate them and cause them to lash out at you with suicide baiting or name-calling, even ridiculous, abusive accusations. You're never just a friend. You become like a drug.

That's what happened to me with friends, then turned on me when I tried to put up boundaries. Maybe they have abandonment trauma too. Live and learn I guess.

No. 1414892

>>1414346
psychoanalyzing a bit: babies/toddlers usually don't care (can't understand) the boundaries of their parents. People with abandonment issues don't want to leave the past behind and actually love like adults, they want to be toddlers entirely entitled to their parents (read: mother, tbh) attention without a care of anything like it should have been. But adulthood doesn't work like that and you can't go back.

No. 1414971

It's been complained about a million times but my roommate has ADHD and they're legit insufferable. They never replace anything in the house they use, they never put away their trash or dishes, they fucking leave their clothes everywhere, they're late to everything, they flake on stuff they told me they wanted to do, they're constantly on their phone during things like movies, at dinner, like. They're never paying attention and they miss everything and are annoying as hell about it.

And whenever I ask them to get control over their behavior or do something to help themselves they throw an absolute shitfit, like have a nuclear meltdown in tard rage because they're impulsive as fuck and have no emotional control.

Fuuuuuuuck people with ADHD. I would take an autist over an adhd tard anyday.

No. 1414979

>>1414971
Everytime I read about adhd I just don't understand what the symptoms are. Are they just lazy or what is it

No. 1415095

>>1414979
It's kind of like having a conjoined twin who talks in your ear nonstop and it takes a lot of effort to ignore her and focus on anything else, including your own thoughts. That makes it hard to finish things, which leads to anxiety about starting things, and it makes you kind of shit at everything you try to do anyway. A lot of the physical symptoms are not that different to autistic behaviors and I don't know what they're about either.
Unlike most "mental" illnesses there's a bunch of drugs that actually work, including ones you don't need a prescription for (like caffeine), so there's absolutely no excuse for anyone with ADHD to be like that other nona's roommate. It's super common though, personally I think many who were diagnosed as children were overly coddled and shielded from consequences by their parents.
Moids with ADHD in particular really make me wanna alog because the women in their lives go online and talk about the lengths they go to to help their failson/boyfriend function when it's obvious that even if he does have ADHD he's mostly just fucking lazy because he's had a series of personal secretaries his whole life keeping track of his schedule and belongings and assignments for him.

No. 1415222

>>1414346
I have abandonment issues, this called me out. I don’t show it though. If I’m not texted back for an hour, like you said, I feel nauseous and sad, and begin to think it means something bad. I don’t say this out loud though , I’m self aware. I’ll find something else to do and let it go. And I definitely do care about other people. It’s mainly the ‘you’re going to leave/let me down’ feeling that’s always there, that I don’t express, or it makes me feel detached as I don’t want to expect much.- low expectations, yk? Does anyone else itt have abandonment issues that manifest this way?

No. 1415378

>>1415095
Nta but what I do not understand is the difference between the conjoined twin that talks in your ear and your own thoughts

No. 1415404

I watched a video the other day, something like 'fucked up things on the internet' It was showing someones messed up reddit post history where they admit to regularly having fantasies about cannibalizing their own teenage kid.

Comment section… full of scrotes claiming its actually totally normal to have a head full of fantasies that revolve around murdering your own family members, having sex with your family including underage members, chopping bodies up etc. I mean its just fantasy! We all get that right?? ..

No. 1415420

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>>1414979
Lack of executive function. Imagine you have a task to accomplish, such as taking your dishes to the kitchen from your room. Most people with executive function can just do the task. But for people without executive function, attempting to start the task is like a sort of anxiety-induced paralysis; you actually are physically incapable of beginning task initiation.

It's exacerbated by things like stress and poor mental health

No. 1415475

>>1415378
The conjoined twin is your own thoughts. The point I was trying to make is that something goes wrong to where your own thoughts are distracting and out of control.

No. 1415793

>>1415475
Nta but I totally get the metaphor. It's actually a great way of describing what it feels like to have distracting thoughts that you don't want to be having.

No. 1416077

I made a new friend and she's sweet but she has been a red flag lately. I dropped by and saw her and she showed me her arms and told me she's reverted back to self harm.
I dont want to be an asshole and I'm sure it's a real disorder but the people that I seem to find that do this always are irritating. Like I totally understand E.D's whatever but the fact it's the first thing she just whipped out her arm and showed me was really attention seeking. I said I do not understand it nor have any experience but I am there to listen but it really just makes me want to run for the hills.

No. 1416143

>>1415222
I do the exact same thing

No. 1416851

>>1414346
That's exactly why I avoid borderlines like they have the most contagious disease ever.
I don't care if they're suffering, I don't care about attachment issues, I don't care about their feelings.
They don't care and don't seem to bother to fix their problems, so why should I care about knowing them?

No. 1418780

>>1415222
same. It's people who act upon those impulses to hurt the person they're attached to that are the issue. Most just internalise it though like you.

No. 1426371

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people who talk about "spoons"

i know someone who logs into discord and updates status like "i have no spoons left" or "low on spoons" like bitch get the fuck off a messaging app then. no one cares

No. 1427976

>>1426371
what metaphor even is this?

No. 1429044

>>1427976
They fucking call it “spoon theory” like it’s something scientific when it’s literally just a munchie way of saying SP/mana.

No. 1429059

>>1427976
The very self-obsessed person's way to say "I'm tired".

No. 1429077

>>1429044
i also love the implication that you can use tomorrow's energy for today's tasks. like what? no. nothing works like that.

No. 1429628

I've been waking up furious every morning for over a week. I even threw a chair in a tard rage. I don't know what's wrong with me but I want to explode.

No. 1429637

>>1429628
sounds like me when I'm struggling with intense bipolar shifts. its really fucking shitty to feel furious over everything. maybe you could track your moods and see if a pattern emerges

No. 1429640

>>1429628
>>1429637
Ladies, you're looking for the mental health thread on /g/ >>>/g/141299, this is the thread where we complain about other people's disorders.
>>1426371
This chart makes no sense. What job does this person work that a good day at work is three times tougher than eating breakfast? I've known people who need to budget their energy like this and all of them are too disabled to work pt let alone daily.

No. 1429642

>>1429640
doublepost, sorry, just saw the sore joints and shower comment. This person has enough physical ability to make a whinge chart, but they can't buy a scrub stick for easier showers. Couldn't be me.

No. 1434912

i cant fucking deal with bipolar. i dont think bipolars should ever have children i honestly had all the empathy drained from my soul growing up with a bipolar mother there's honestly so much i can do i genuinely think it should be illegal for them to conceive. first off they'll be suffering secondly they're going to pass it down AND fuck up their kids for life in other ways than just genetics. i physically cant deal with it i cant im tired and im beginning to feel insane

No. 1434946

>>1434912
Only thing worse than a bipolar is bipolar kids. Literal hell on earth demon spawn. Especially when their parents are divorced.
I only feel confident saying this because I am this

No. 1434957

>>1434912
Same. The weird thing is, I was adopted at birth. Turns out my biological mother has borderline personality disorder, while my adopted mother (the only mom I’ve ever known or called mom) I’m 99.9% sure has Bipolar disorder. It runs in her family, and she refuses to believe she might need help or need to talk to a therapist to manage her severe manic and depressive episodes. In her mind, everyone is just a selfish asshole and she’s the only one without a problem, while wondering why none of her family or old friends want to visit or hang out with her when they’re in town.
My fiancé wants to have kids when we get married and I’m hesitant. When I think of “parenthood”, all I can think of is my mom’s daily screaming, crying, meltdowns, or over-the-top behavior and my childhood self having to walk on eggshells and never knowing if it would be a “good day” or a “bad day”, completely reliant on my mom’s mood. I’m afraid of reliving that again and becoming the screaming, crying mother, or passing on issues to my kids, especially if I might have some Cluster B traits in my genes. Blah.

No. 1434978

>>1434970
Wtf this sounds exactly like my dad minus the jail time, but he did kill someone but it was deemed as an accident but the hell it was. We also were told to shut up, no sneezing, no coughing, hiccups would gain you a smack in the head or if we had our phones not on silent, that shit would fly and meet our foreheads or mouths. He also would fight my sister but the funny thing is that I am the one who is diagnosed with bipolar II but I have always been chill about it and I think mine has gotten milder over the years, but I also suspect I could have been misdiagnosed but it doesn't really bother me as of now. My dad was also a diagnosed narcissist and an alcoholic and my sister is now a rageful adhd mommy, fun times.

No. 1434998

Not sure if this is common in people with ADHD in general but I recently befriended someone in uni and she has ADHD and she can't stop talking about herself and constently tries to make everything about her. She goes off on tangents as well and it's just so exhausting to be around her. I don't even feel like we're having conversations but rather like she's talking to herself the entire time.

No. 1435013

>>1434998
I have noticed that younger people with ADHD can't help but bring up the fact that they have ADHD in topics that has no relation to it, thus changing the topic about themself and the fact they have ADHD

No. 1435059

>>1435013
Honestly I’ve encountered people in their 30s and 40s that are the exact same way. It’s less about age and more about pathological need for attention.

No. 1435085

>>1435013
Ayrt she's in her mid-20's but my god YES she keeps bringing up her ADHD like it's a quirky trait to have and doesn't notice or care when I just stare off after a while. She never "reads the room" so to speak and she does it when other people are around as well.

No. 1435149

I don't know what mental illness this is but I hate and can't fucking deal with anybody that gets meltdowns, panic attacks or mood swings and it's strangely always ego-centrical bitches with zero empathy that have to make everything about them that have these nowadays.

You cannot even be sad about a dead friend, the outbreak of a war or some catastrophe without them either making themselves the victims of this, pretending it was making them panic and force you to shut up or say some absolutely tone-deaf rude shit and no explanation in the world will ever make understand why it's rude.

They also always use their meltdowns and panic/anxiety attacks strategically.

They get it everytime you ask them for help, vent, bring up an argument against some shit they have said to make you shut up and to explain why they go away or log off. And if you keep doing it you are bullying a disabled person or some shit.

No. 1435152

>>1435013
This is pretty much any person listing personal shit on their profiles like saying they have any type of mental illness or adhd, their skin color, etc. All I hear is "me me me me". These people are so shallow that they have nothing valuable to say about their personality so they default to this shit. I don't know why this stuff is socially acceptable now, we need to bring shame back to society.

No. 1438859

Do people that suffer from transgenderism count as a mental disorder? MTFs are either brain-dead degens or slowly groomed to be dead, we all know their problems and I honestly don't care for them except when they end up in scandals and skew the statistics for women other then that they are dead to me. FTMs on other the hand are often either groomed, abused or belittled for being a women and more. MTF and FTM are honestly often just attention seeking/seriously ill people that I just want to either knock some sense into them or send them into long-term therapy which won't work since being a transgender is a miracle cure-all pill of course! I'm not gonna even get into they/them or transgender children that just whole other mess.

No. 1439306

>>1435013
It's less about ADHD and just an attention seeking thing that's been encouraged by the younger generation.
>>1438859
Gender dysphoria is a mental illness in the DSM. If you want more proof it's a mental illness just check any of the MtF threads lmao.
>>1010844 >>1010712 >>1081837 are some other examples.
With FtMs, they're usually just internally misogynistic, taught to think their femininity is shit, and that the slightest deviation from stereotypical ditzy bimbo feminine housewife is them having a male brain or something. Also trauma, especially sexual abuse, can cause gender dysphoria and feeling out of your body/hating it etc. but the troons will shut you down at this.

No. 1439383

I have an eating disorder. If I were a basket case for some other reason that didn't effect my appearance, I wouldn't seek therapy at all. See you all on the other side of the 200lbs I need to loose.

No. 1460273

>>1435149
Textbook borderline or bippie if you want to use a slur.
>>1439383
holy shit who cares, anachan, this is not your woe is me space.

No. 1461262

>>1426371
i definitely have problems with taking care of myself due to untreated mental illness but this shit is just annoying and i hate overtly im so quirky type of language

No. 1465156

>>1460273
>Anachan
No I'm fat, like, people mentally count how many people are on the elevator when I get on sort of fat.
So fat black guys would date me.

No. 1468464

Autism in males is dangerous. They're hypersexualized and they stalk women. I'm talking about the extreme side of the spectrum here.

No. 1468466

>>1439383
you dont have an eating disorder you're just fat and dont want to be fat

No. 1468467

>>1468464
Autistic men tend to have paraphilias at an alarming rate.

No. 1468468

>>1468467
I wonder why it's so common in men and not women on the spectrum. The again a lot of women on the spectrum are into furries.

No. 1468492

>>1468464
Agreed. I’ve always wanted to have my own kids but lately I’ve been so worried about the possibility of having an autistic son. The idea of having a huge autistic male offspring that can overpower me or other women is absolutely terrifying

No. 1468514

>>1468464
And autism in males just gets promoted and excused as "aw he doesn't know anything, he's autistic" whereas women with it are treated like shit and grow up not knowing what's wrong with them plus a splash of misogyny.

No. 1468556

I hate people with anxiety disorders who drag everyone into it. Like forcing you to leave an HOUR earlier to not be late when it's 45 mins away. I feel sorry for people with anxiety who keep it to themselves but people who don't are insufferable.

No. 1468558

>>1468556
Typically people like that don't have anxiety but instead personality disorder(s)

No. 1468565

>>1468558
Ayrt, could be too. Some kind of control issues. I was reading this thread and thought of my dad, he did this all the time when he had a stressful job years ago. Now he has a more comfortable job and works less hours, he's like a different person.

No. 1468589

>>1468492
Read r/regretfulparents on Reddit and filter for autism. Average male autism is bad enough but the low functioning male autism will make you want to get your tubes tied.
I think of having kids from time to time too but we have to keep in mind there's a possibility of this happening and it's good to have money to get them a caretaker or institutionalized because they'll drain your soul… this among many other conditions that can make the average boy more challenging to deal with and it's not always something you can detect in utero sadly

No. 1468696

>>1468464
Truth. Most autistic women are cringe and annoying at worst, but autistic males barely qualify as human. This tracks for every "high functioning" male autist I've ever met too, it's not just the extremo retards.

No. 1468737

>>1468556
Calculating 15 minutes extra for traffic and stuff doesn't mean you have anxiety, that just means you have foresight wtf. Bet you are one of those bitches who is always late cause she doesn't respect other peoples time.

No. 1469099

>>1468492
I guess on the off chance that you have a kid with autism then you have to watch them carefully for weird behaviour and get them in ABA, therapy early.

>>1468514
I noticed this for both genders, nonnie. It makes them apologetic and rude because of "muh autism" Putting on a pedestal gives them an excuse not to do OT, and learn social skills.

No. 1469100

>>1469099
Sorry .want unapologetic

No. 1469103

>>1468696
Agreed, from what I seen from lurking on 4chan, they are sexually degenerate And they actually expect us to put up with that. Their brains are broken.

No. 1469107

>>1468556
Urgh, my mother is like this. I can only take her in small doses.

No. 1469172

>>1468514
Most autistic women I've met have just been hyperempathetic. Moids though…I always felt like they wanted to rape me kek

No. 1469430

Whatever mental disorder that religious nutcases have while they sperg about how the world is corrupted by Satan and how they're such good God blessed people and talk over people's life experiences.

No. 1469448

I actually find aspies quite endearing.

No. 1470355

>>1469172
They're ok outside of fandoms. Male autists are broken

>>1469448
wrong thread nonnie, this is complaining about mental disorders

No. 1470373

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>>1469448
Male autists are horrible and need to be put down. Insufferable coomers who think they’re the center of the universe and that the world needs to cater to their tard beliefs and behaviors

No. 1470446

What are anons' thoughts on the whole "men's mental health gets ignored and shunned" thing?

No. 1470451

>>1469448
just the women, just the women, just the women remember.

No. 1470455

>>1470446
Unequivocal bullshit. When men seek out help for their problems they're usually taken quite seriously. The problem is that most of them are too full of themselves and can't fathom setting aside their ego long enough to actually get help. Women are much less hubristic and are more likely to seek help, but because of misogyny we aren't taken seriously and assumed to be "hysterical". In short, "waaaaah we're ignoring moid mental health" is a problem caused and perpetuated entirely by men.

No. 1470456

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No. 1470676

>>1470446
>>1470455
It is true to a degree, but the issue is that it's only always ever brought up in a way that's meant to "clap back" at how supposedly easy women have it.
It's also usually used as a seething incel argument that women apparently look down upon men with mental issues, which literally just…isn't true? Women have brains more hardwired for empathy and we would listen and try to help if they were honest and down-to-earth and weren't such egotistical assholes.
Men are the one who stigmatise other men's mental health, men are the one who start the issue, and then bring this argument up always, whether it be direct or indirect, to put down women.

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