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Are there any types of mental illnesses you steer clear away from people for having? Not the really hardcore shit like psychopathy or sociopathy, but things that people would label you as ableist for refusing to get close to someone for having.
I've been burned too many times by people with Borderline (or who check off every symptom if they're undiagnosed). The disorder is literally just a cluster of toxic traits. They're simply not capable of being healthy people to have in your life. One of the traits of the disorder is that they will act totally obsessed with you then drop you abruptly for little to no reason, usually in a really dramatic OTT way. I just can't deal with someone who has a personality disorder that is defined by a trait like that. It stays with me for years when people pull that shit and now when people are super enthusiastic about our friendship, I get worried they're going to do that. Even when they don't even have BPD. And don't even get me started on the other traits involved with that disorder.
I also can't deal with people who have EDs, whether it's one involving weight loss or weight gain. It would be one thing if they only applied their deluded view of weight to themselves, but they almost always have to drag other people into their sickness. I want nothing to do with someone who tries to make me feel like a fat sack of lard when I'm a twig. Or who insists I look better overweight than I did at a healthy size.
People with depression issues who can't get their shit together. I fall into this category, but am working hard to get out of it. I can't be around hyper-negative people who complain about their problems constantly and let their mindset cripple them long-term from any advancement, especially when I'm fighting to NOT be like that. I also don't like feeling like my main purpose in someone's life is to be the person they dump everything on.
Autists. I know this one is just mean, but being friends with them is painfully awkward. You have to be uncomfortably blunt because they don't get even the most obvious hints, plus they tend to have no filter and say incredibly mean and/or offensive shit. I'm always so anxious about introducing my autistic friends to people because they pretty much always embarrass the fuck out of me. Here's just a few of the gems of examples I have of them doing so:
>to friend with acne issues upon first time meeting her Wow, your skin is disgusting.
>to friend driving used Audi God, I hate people who drive luxury cars. It's so unfair. I wish all the rich people would just die.
>upon introduction to friend You're not as attractive as you look in Facebook pictures, but we should go out on a date anyway. can't for the life of him understand why she gave a hard no to this request
>because I didn't know the name of the president of South Korea I mean, you are pretty stupid, so I'm not surprised.
>to adopted friend is it ever hard knowing that you were a last resort and your parents wouldn't have even wanted you at all if they could conceive their own kid?
So yeah, no more obvious autists.
aspergers is not a real disorder, just an obsolete term for high functioning autism, which is a spectrum. high functioning is just slight social awkwardness, low functioning is similar to downs and mentally crippling. if you have it you have high functioning autism.
you sound fucking stupid though tbh and the fact that you think you're way better than others who have it clues me in that you probably actually do.
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Lol op are you me?
I avoid alot of these mental disorders because my best friend has them and it has kinda soured my view on people who have them.
She has depression, anxiety disorder, ocd and recently found out about possibly being on the spectrum.Tbh she kinda reminds me of Pixielocks in some ways. She has the idea that people around her need to cater to her needs due to her mental illnesses and i’m getting sick of it. Her mom or older brother with bipolar gives tips about managing her mental illnesses she takes HUGE offense about it. I can't take it anyomore
i hate people like that. i tend to steer clear of or drop anyone using their illnesses as an excuse for shit. tons of strong people get by and don't have support systems but i feel like tons of people with really strong support systems tend to act like total assholes.
also, just fyi if your friend is on the spectrum that may be why she's an ass.
not trying to disagree but autistic people excel in their chosen field of study much easier than non-autistic people in the same field. that's not to say they're more intelligent, they just can care more about learning specific things than other people, even if those other people have the same interest. they are definitely more compassionate about specific things than others though.
most autistic people don't find out what field they'd accelerate in though and use the reasoning to apply it to themselves.
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People with BPD, anorexia, bulimia, bipolar, HPD, NPD, Shizoid PD, Schizotypal PD, or any other extreme disorder are red flags for me.
Everyone else is cool for the most part and I have nothing but extreme respect for those with PTSD, especially C-PTSD where ongoing abuse occurred.
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full disclosure, i'm clinically fucked in the head (bipolar ii and CPTSD) so this makes me a big dirty hypocrite but w/e lmao
all cluster B's can honestly go and stay go. i can check off every cluster B personality disorder on my bingo card of People Who Have Hurt Me, tbh. i went through a lot of abuse as a kid and seem to just be an absolute fucking magnet for these types of people, but i'm getting a lot better at asserting my boundaries/just cutting off toxic people with no remorse bc i finally love myself enough to realise i deserve better.
sidenote: i'm incredibly uncomfortable with the push to merge CPTSD (which isn't really a real diagnosis yet in the first place but very much should be imo) with BPD, because they are very much not one and the same.
fuckwits w/ depression who can't deal with life but don't get help and just throw their hands up in the air and go 'well maybe i should just kill myself then!' over literally everything can also go. i was this person once, so i do have sympathy for these people, but i got on medication (it took me six years to find the right one but god fucking bless lamotrigine) and found a psychologist. i recommend the same to others, and offer resources i've found helpful or offer to teach them about some basic CBT stuff if they're hesitant about therapy. however, if they don't want to take the hand i'm offering i just slow fade out because i just don't have the energy to deal w/ constant suicide threats and don't need the constant negativity.
autists. i spent most of my childhood doing the emotional legwork of parenting my younger sister (and still do a decent bit), who's on the spectrum, and i just can't deal with them any more. i also got paired up with all the spergs in primary school by my teachers to be their friend because i was kind, patient and available (read as: friendless, unable to assert boundaries and terrified of rocking the boat so i'd just suffer in silence), and it was honestly just an awful fucking time. i just don't have any patience for it any more.
trannies. perhaps a bit controversial depending on how you feel about gender dysphoria, but a lot of them (esp TIMs) tend to also display some pretty rampant cluster B traits. i'll leave it there, don't wanna derail a thread about MI with my GC/TERF bullshit, considering there's already threads for that.
also, maybe not quite a mental illness (codependency i guess?), but enablers can fuck right off too. i might be a bit bitter/jaded/resentful about that one though, considering my mother was thoroughly emotionally absent and did nothing to protect me from my father's abuse, but rather, tried to justify it.
wew lad that got rantier than intended but tbh i needed it. thanks for the really good thread, OP!
I feel the same way about cluster 🅱s and trannies. Bs are irredeemably awful and the vast majority of them are too far gone to change that. Trannies are cluster Bs but 10x worse because of the *intense
* victim complexes and disgusting fetish shit.
I generally hate all mentally ill males on top of that. 99.999% of normal males are already cluster B passing, I can't take more. I can usually tolerate females, though.
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I'm with you on depressed fags and trannies anon.
I'm a flaming trashcan with Bipolar II, Borderline Personality Disorder, Generalized Anxiety disorder, PTSD, and ADD. I'm medicated and in therapy so I like to think I'm slightly self aware of my behavior but what I noticed with fellow BPDs is that they dont want to seek treatment or rarely continue treatment. So their shit is continuously fucked. The prevelant mentality with that is that it's easier to be a victim than face the music that despite having lived through so much shit they have to still be held accountable for their actions and slow progress into becoming reflections of their abusers.
I really hate people who say they have anxiety and depression but are actually undiagnosed and/or just cluster Bs or have adjustment disorder.
I hate the whole tumblr craze where everybody has BPD because they identify with a shitty post that says something to the tone of "i hate when people dont respond to my text messages right away #justbpdthings" I guess basically normies who identify with a single trait of any mental disorder and immediately come to the conclusion of having said disorder.
Oh god i really fucking hate when somebody with a fairly large platform like kelly eden or anisa johma claim they have several mental pathologies but have never been professionally diagnosed and just say shit for ass pats.
the reason i hate trannies is that the majority of them refuse to see mental health professionals to sort out their shit. being a tranny should be a mental disorder specifically for the side effects of depression, body dysmorphia, dysphoria and the suicidal tendencies. despite not always requiring psychotropic drugs for treatment should still be taken care of by people with experience with dealing with psychosis of any kind.
i also hate anybody who's clearly mentally thats undiagnosed. Like they wreak havoc on everybody's life including their own and refuse to come to terms thats it it's all on them. For example i know this dude that is clearly undiagnosed bipolar. his manic episodes lead him through many phases of expensive hobbies and wild ideas that leave him in debt, and then when he's having depressive episodes it's the classic i wanna kill myself and life is meaningless bullshit. when i asked him if he's gotten treatment he was all like "i was on prozac once and it made me want to kill myself and that was it." the thing that scares me the most is thats he's really into guns now and he just bought an AR-15 (the favorite gun of modern school shooters)and i'm basically shitting myself. like there's nothing i can do but wait until he loses it or something.
Isn't NPD really rare? BPD seems more common to me so I guess more people would have a bad experience with one of them.
But you're right NPD are to be avoided like the plague, my aunt got herself caught up in the web of one of those monster and he completely ruined her, she is only 34 but look easily 20 years older, she is in so deep that I don't see any way out for her.
I already said in OP that I have depression issues. Did you not read it?>nitpicking on women you're jealous of
Holy baseless assumptions Batman. I only participate in one cow thread and never focus on the girl's looks, just her incredibly problematic
behavior. Funny enough, the cow in question is believed by most in the thread to have BPD.
Also, since you're under the impression that every single person on lolcow is nitpicking over other women, what are you even doing here? Given your use of the word "jealous", I m guessing you have a thread on here?
always the same excuse: ''i only come on /ot/ !!!1!1!1" and muh problematic
behaviour. go back to PULL
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You're being retarded and OT, stop shitting up the thread.
It sounds like you just have extreme social anxiety. People with Autism don't understand social normalcy enough to be aware of their awkwardness and question if they have it.
As for if anyone you know might have Borderline, this should help: https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/borderline-personality-disorder/index.shtml
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Narcissists and sociopaths should be culled from the population as soon as they can be identified. Neither have the capacity to understand other humans and in the case of narcissists they won't even try not being disgusting manipulative people.
Borderlines are also pretty unpleasant and I hate that so many CPTSD sufferers get lumped in with them.
>>231607>Also, she claimed to cut to the bone and yet didn't have a single self-harm scar because "she heals really well".
That girl would do the exact same thing. Cried over the phone that she thought she was going to die because she apparently cut her throat so deep. Next day, not even a single tiny scratch on her throat. She would also pose and pull up her sleeves "let her wounds breathe", so she could show off her tiny cat scratches every time someone walked past.
Also claimed to be anorexic and claimed to starve herself, because her sister is anorexic and got attention. Her sister was actually posted on lolcow ages ago lol. Somehow she didn't drop a single pound off her obese body in the three years I knew her though.
I drew a bit in class and got compliments on my art, which made her incredibly angry. So she decided to draw so that everyone could see her, and hung her art up on the walls.
Got a work experience week at a tattoo shop. Walk in to find her there, she had asked them if she could work there too because I did.
There was literally nothing people could have for themselves. If someone gave me attention for something, she stole it and made it her identity. No matter how small and stupid it was.
Plus she is a columbiner/serial killer fangirl, and threatened to shoot up the school. As if she couldn't get anymore crazy.
… My girl was also a Columbiner and hamplanet who faked anorexia. Wtf. Crazy how that's apparently a type.
Please tell me yours was some type of genderspecial so we can complete the bingo card?
While BPD has genetic factors it's typically triggered
by trauma and abuse, so I can see why people want to lump/merge the two. Renaming BPD would help with the stigma that might help more people get help as well.
You guys are fucking retarded. It's obvious that >>231594
was trying to call out the aspie for thinking she is somehow above other aspies. Her whole "huurduur i hate aspies, but i am one btw" was cringy and it's just like a fucking autist to think they're better than others. Kek and getting triggered
People with certain personality disorders tend to have a type they're attracted to. I've noticed farmers are often weirdly similar to one another. I think the personality type that comes with your typical farmer just happens to attract people with BPD.
Most farmers tend to be troubled, but have a compassionate side. People with BPD rope people in through playing the victim and garnering sympathy. It's easy to mistake those with BPD as simply having extreme depression if you don't know better. My guess is that's why farmers seem to have a disproportionate amount of experience with them.
I think my mom feels this way about me.
I often wonder how my life would've been like if I continued to develop normally.
I see my normal, successful little sister and it just hurts.
I avoid getting close to anyone because I know I'll just annoy them anyway.
I'm afraid of falling into the whims of a Cluster B person because I'm not good with social cues. If anyone is loud about how they have so much *~drama~* they have, I'll just assume they have BPD and avoid them.
I have little in common with other autistic people. I can't stand people who think autism is a gift. It's a fucking burden and the world would be better if there was a cure.
My mom said I was a bright, talkative baby and then I regressed when I was two. I feel bad for her. I'm glad she at least had a chance to have a normal kid like my sister.
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Anon, I feel you, do the best you can, it maybe take time to not annoy people but you learn out each day how to comport in social situation even if it's tiring. If one day there is a cure or a way to reduce risk of autism for my child I will do it .
( sorry for the blog post)
on the subject I can't stand " non award of the bullshit their doing "autistic people ', the worst are the weeb's one, they can even make normal people follow they shitty social behaviors, I've seen that an it's not pretty.
Peoples who still have ED, they are hard to manage, but the one who are recovered and can make joke about can be quite nice
peoples with depression who take drugs ( not like medication ) and keep it / make it their staple look à la tumblr/ insta baddies junkie kid, they are just toxic
hypersensible people who trow a tantrum for small shit and justify their behavior by reaching hard or the one who even get all made when they /you misinterpreted something
trans peoples during the depressive/ pré transition part, I think it's a bit like for depressive peoples. It also make me inconfortable to oblivion when a trans people can't pass and it's obvious( even if I don't know them ),i'ts maybe why I don't have MTF friends
sorry for the wall of text, really good thread idea !
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CPTSD survivors typically don't have empathy problems or abandonment issues though, which is what makes BPD people so awful to be around. CPTSD survivors also don't tend to make fake suicide or self-harm threats for attention.
I may be biased though, my sibling has been diagnosed with BPD while my psychiatrist all but used the term CPTSD to describe my issues. My sibling doesn't mean to be (I don't think, anyways) but is very abrasive and mean to everyone and impulsively cut herself nearly to the bone after being told to look at nearby universities rather than moving away.
Unrelated but low functioning autism is terrible. I have a distant relative who has it and is almost completely incapable of speech. He doesn't understand basic needs like needing to put on clothing in public and that he has to eat. He gets completely fixated on something and has climbed up buildings chasing birds. His parents adopted a little girl and she's showing signs of narcissism. It's awful for them.
Sage for blogging because I'm sure none of you wanted so much about my personal life in one post.
>>231963>I am legit so done with depressed people because theyre always victims who no one can understand. 99% of the whiny entitled midldly anxious and depressed peoples problems would be fixed if people stopped enabling them and they would stop babying themselves.
This, I hate hate HATE depressed people who don't even fucking do the bare minimum to function and it's all "muh depression, that's why I can't get a job or clean my room once a month or literally do anything ever." I say this as a depressed person.
I guess I'm especially bitter about this because my ex-boyfriend was just like this, and eventually our relationship fell apart because of it. He went from having a steady job and going out to completely succumbing to "depression culture" and quit his job, stopped going to the gym and put on 30lbs, and stopped cleaning or caring about anything. Meanwhile I was in school full time and working 30 hours a week and I was absolutely exhausted and the house was a fucking disgusting mess. Anytime I asked him to at least pick up his laundry he would get super defensive and upset and say that just because I was busier than him didn't mean he had to be a housemaid. I did everything and he did n o t h i n g except play video games and sleep. He did go to therapy 2x a month but refused to do anything the therapist told him because "she didn't get how hard it is."
Eventually I reached the end of the rope with his bullshit and dumped him. It was like a huge burden being lifted.
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Nowadays people have self induced depression and anxiety, since being depressed is seen as cool and deep now people will literally get depressed if their life isnt hard enough (I've seen this shit before)
Obviously there are actual depressed people but the bad ones end up giving a bad name to real depressed people and people use muh pro diagnosis as an excuse as if it wasnt easy as fuck to get diagonsed with whatever someone chooses, people choose what they tell their therapist and no one realizes that
>>232029>fat, chubby, roast beef, saggy tits
Lol, what a very specific thing for a guy to mention. Almost as if he's been rejected by said person.
It was on r9k, i agree with him on some points but others were just….
I do know some saggy tit girls and outtie girls that act like this though, not to mention several men, like more than 10, where agreeing with him and saying how their ex was like that so yeah
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>>232029>listening to incels about anything
Even when they have some good points their thinking is completely fucked.
This is me,>>231963
I absolutely agree with you and forgot totally about self-diagnosed people. They're so entitled, as you said formally diagnosed people are usually easier to deal with as they know their problems and hold it as something to work on. Self-diagnosed cunts jack off in a circle. >>232029
Like this anon said and they love to glorify mental illnesses. If you have any mental illnesses, work on them and no one will have a problem with you. I have nothing but respect for extremely mentally ill people who work on themselves. There is nothing more amazing than a severely mentally ill person who is getting better.
I'm in a discord that feels like the olympics of suffering…
'I tried too kill myself' - 'yeah, me too, 2 times!'
'My parents were strict christians' - 'My parents didn't allow me to leave the house!' etc
I once had to jokingly ask whether they'll throw me out for not having anxiety, depression and being a gay trans…
Sorry for the vent
Lol, were we in the same discord?
I eventually left mine because it just became too much. The discord was originally for a hobby we all shared, which they all of course 'never had the energy for', and if I dared to show some progress I had done it was met with sarcastic comments like 'well, of course it's easy for you' and 'so how does it feel to be a normal person?'
I have an extreme bias against BPD - I'll admit it because any person I've met with BPD (self-dxed or not) wound up abusing me.
Had a friend once with a grab-bag of MIs: PTSD, DID, BPD, Autism, Depression, etc. We had a bad falling out, and this person painted me as evil because "I wouldn't let other system members front uwu" when in reality, this person would purposefully front bad/mean alters in to make me have panic attacks and then told me because I had a panic attack them (the host) is at risk of "dying."
This person fucked off out of my life, but I do consider them one of my personal lolcows now that I'm aware most of their grocery list of MIs are fake. I'm pretty positive they are BPD, but I'm lead to believe most of everything else is bullshit because this person claims to have gotten an official DID diagnosis after ONE therapist appointment lmao
Today they are still drawing their 100 furry OC system members, liking gross vomit gore shit, and talking about how mentally ill they are and never doing anything to improve their situation.
I avoid anyone who claims to be a system or claims to have DID.
Oh god, that's like when I lost a bunch of fat through exercise and suddenly people were telling me I must be one of those people who are just naturally skinny and don't have to work out or watch their diet, except much much worse, because instead of dismissing what it takes to lose some weight, they're dismissing your achievement of overcoming internal obstacles and carving out a better quality of life for yourself, with a little muh privilege thrown in.
I left as well!
They were like "No, of course we won't kick you out for being normal! Does it feel like a competition, no, it just helps me to share my struggles with likeminded people" ugh
But no, it was music related
Not sure if this is the right thread to post because I'm not exactly sure what disorder I'm talking about but I've had this longtime friend I've distanced myself from (at least for the fourth time now) cause I can't deal with her behavior and general personality anymore. From what I've read she seems to have at least one or two cluster b disorders (I'm not intending to give a diagnose, I'd rather like to hear if anyone here would agree with me)
>is very clingey, wants to message all day except she's busy (our friendship turned into LD a few years ago)
>talks about her problems with guys as much as possible, constantly seeking for validation
>not giving the same amount of listening back, likes to shift the discussion back to her own problems
>when you confront her that it's too much often gaslights you and says you should always say when she gets on your nerves but refuses to change anything about her behavior and become more sensitive, meaning if you'd say it everytime it's too much you'd say it everyday
>obsesses over guys she's had an affair with when things didn't lead to a relationship over YEARS (including daily social media stalking, texting, even showing up at their house or work, this happened with the two last guys at least twice a year)
>knows every detail about the things these guys have done even slightly related to her, sometimes I wonder if she writes everything down cause she likes to argument using exact dates. So is basically collecting "evidence"
>is extremely insecure but acts all self-confident, is conceited, likes to point out whats beautiful about her, always looks for flaws in others, especially in people she hates, tries to fish for compliments, but as soon as this wall gets destroyed by a single incident starts furiously crying and calls herself the exact opposite
>once stated good friends should always listen no matter how much the person needs you, which seemed a lot to ask someone cause friends are not therapists imo. Also likes to guilt-trip you by saying "I have the feeling I have to be SO careful what I say to everyone or I get on their nerves"
>is very impulsive and often overreacts and acts before she thinks
>has extreme abandonement issues routed in her crazy (probably narc) mother (which is why I feel shitty but I have to think of my own mental health and this friendship was never healthy)
>at the same time always had commitment phobia. Didn't have a boyfriend in 9 years now
Had to take a step back cause I let myself get too invested in this obsessive relationship drama and don't have enough backbone to confront people who are this demanding all the time. I don't like to feel used as a human tissue and don't want to give others validation all the time. Sorry this was so long.
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I cannot deal with people who have addiction issues. My mom and sister were both hardcore BPD with addiction and the constant lying, manipulating, and berating by them wore me down to a distrustful, easily agitated person with anxiety.
I am basically Duterte levels intolerant when it comes to drugs and alcohol, and I hate SJW's because they promote unhealthy coping mechanisms and acceptance of shit like drugs and alcohol.
I also cant stand people with eating disorders for the same reason you state OP.
My little brother has autism and they didn't know until he was a year or so old. He's almost 10 and they STILL don't have a placement of how bad his autism is.
I can't imagine someone finding these things out in a few days let a long a few hours after birth.
Just yesterday i was told that the husband of somebody i know killed himself. She wanted the divorce, he called her asking to talk everything out, but then she came he had already cut off his head with a circular saw…
Why do you have to do that to another person, especially your family/friends?
that's totally different.
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>>231565>tfw i have almost all of those
personally though it's very, very extreme things like psychosis, or those who absolutely lack empathy and hurt animals (and eventually ppl or dream about it.) i feel intense empathy and usually want the best for them, but i wouldn't befriend someone like that for my own safety
god this sounds exactly like bpd and like every fucking girl i ended up being friends with
i've been friends with a psycho "sad bpd" who had an UNREAL victim complex despite being a bit older than me acted like a petulant kid and been friends with a fucking insane "mad bpd" who has to be the MOST at everything, sees herself as better and hotter than everyone else, actively uses other women to look better and is a complete edgelord
I mean we are on lolcow, where the whole point is to judge other people.
But I feel like saying "I can't deal with people with ___" is completely nonsensical though, it doesn't work like that. That's about as specific as saying "Ugh, I can't deal with people from NYC"
Also top fucking kek at>I have x disorder b-but I'm not like those other crazies!!
Oh man. I have a lot to say on this topic lol. I was diagnosed with "depression" and took medication for like 5 months, but then dropped it because it did absolutely nothing and I'm much more comfortable knowing I'm not drugging myself and can change myself with will. Anyway, I had a best friend who had some issues and it was obvious she learnt the behaviours of her even more messed up sister. They both were bulimic and cut themselves and were depressed, and honestly when you're feeling sad yourself the worst thing to do is become best friends with a person just as depressed as you. While we bonded and comforted each other, in the long run it was not healthy at all, she would come running to me when something was wrong and dumping all her shit on me, it was exhausting, and the worst thing is I was doing the exact same because I was feeding off her behaviour, I probably was worse than her because I thought she would always be there to listen and help, but I would then be constantly be whining and mopey just to get her attention. She was a great person honestly, but it just became so toxic, and we broke up a few years ago but still keep it touch, I just refuse to get involved in her shit because she made me so miserable sometimes. When you're with a miserable person like that, you really start to mirror their behaviours and thought process and it's not healthy at all. Hell, my mum is a depressed fucking wreck, she's living with her parents at and it's fucking embarrassing to see her at her age staying in bed constantly, not working and hardly helping around the house only when she's told to, being a disgusting slob who's impossible to be around because it's been ages since she'd showered. Honestly, I had a huge awakening after I broke up with my friend, I started to sort out my shit, stopped enabling myself when I got whiny, learnt to control myself, all of that. I've always been a person to naturally get a little more sad than usual, but I'm no longer blaming that on an "illness", I'm not a weak little shit who's incapable of handling their own emotions, and this is what I hate about depressed people, no matter how much I can sympathise with them, they're unbearable to be around when they're enabling their lazy, shitty, whiney behaviour and constantly bringing the people around them down with them so they can feel some sort of comfort, they complain about hating themselves and hating life in the hopes of having people say "omg nooo don't say that you're so nice I'll always be here for you." Newsflash, fuckers, you have to learn that in life people can't always be there for you, change starts with you, and whining like an annoying little shithead will not do anything for you in the long run. Your reality changes when your mentality and mindset does, learn to change that to a more positive outlook. "Aw but I'm depreeesseddd don't tell me to try and be happy uwu waaaaa". Fuck off with that honestly lmao.
Also, I've read a LOT on how shady and manipulative the mental health industry and psychology is and how much they've lied about doing research and experiments on these supposed mental illnesses. They end up fucking up a lot of people's lives. It really opened up my eyes because I've always been suspicious of certain things in those industries. It's also really evident these things have seeped into this generation and are ruining kids and making them more unbearable and whiny and annoying lol, I mean take a look at the depression and anxiety memes. Some of them are genuinely funny but when there's so many of them it starts to get irritating and it's evident they're made for looking cool or edgy and deep, like having something messed up in your brain makes you the most enlightened and intelligent person on earth somehow. It also makes way for people "fake diagnosing" themselves, like when I see a huge clusterfuck of a list on someone's blog and they have all these disorders I roll my eyes, like sure honey. I don't know why they think it's cool to pretend they're mentally ill. But like I think, medicalising normal human behaviours and traits makes people think there's something wrong with them, like being shy and nervous before making a speech or being sad when your dog dies, it's all the industry's doing, to make people buy their drugs and shit. But I digress.
The same logic can be used to justify racism. But I do agree with you somewhat, being too trusting is unwise.
The main problem I have with being too judgmental about mental illness is that mental illness is often not some objective phenomenon but a loose group of symptoms that occur together with varying frequency. The symptoms themselves can also be somewhat vaguely defined, one obsessive-compulsive or schizophrenic person can have almost totally different symptoms from another person with the same illness. People with the same symptoms can also vary widely in severity or treatment.
This might be controversial, but I also think that most people have a transient mental illness at some point in their life, even if its just undiagnosed depression or anxiety. Usually it's something people overcome, but I think its the more chronic cases of shit like BPD, schizophrenia and ASPD that form our common caricature of the insane.
Posts like >>231614
also bother me somewhat. Mentally normal people are perfectly capable of supporting "sociopathic" shit like Nazism when their environments enable it. I think its comforting to compartmentalize evil into a specific set of dangerous people but that attitude, to me, doesn't accurately represent how selective and malleable most people's empathy is in the first place. Antisocials can be controlled with the same punishment-reward scheme that keeps most of us in line, and advocating their genocide is pretty hypocritical and paranoid IMO.
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except BPDs being toxic isn't "anecdotal behavior", it's literally a diagnostic requirement for BPD
Well, not everyone is a mentally ill piece of shit but let's say that 1/20 is and if you go out with friends and they bring their other friends, it's quick to find people.
Also, it's not "these days" when a person acts regularly like a cunt and tries to excuse it as "That's just who I am!" and doing incoherent shit, doing things on purpose to hurt people and then pulling the "I'm sowwy :(" card to keep them around.
Eh I guess I could go outside some more but I also feel like I'm fairly involved on campus so idk what I could do differently lmao. I'm pretty sheltered and I never got into the phase where i was constantly partying with people or whatever.
I also like to give people the benefit of the doubt if I don't know them too well and i would chalk it up to a misunderstanding or something than something serious. I also don't see how you're supposed to tell if someone has a serious mental disorder after chilling with the bar with them for a couple of hours.
It really does seem that a lot of people who complain about this shit online are pulling things out of their ass or projecting. I do think my ex bf had some sort of problem but even after knowing her for so long i would be hesitant to slap some label onto her. Calling people psychopaths or borderline just seems like a quick way to write off people you don't like permanently. >>233408
You sound fun at parties.
A person who hits his girlfriend and calls her names and then says shit like "You don't deserve me poor angel :( I love you but I'm twisted!!", steals people stuff and then laughs when they panic (He once stole my cellphone, then he gave it back to me only when I started to cry because I store my life in my phone, laughing just because he thought that that was funny), demands to be in every group chat of our friends w/ his gf to "control her" when she barely leaves home due to studying it's not a "person I don't like"
They've been together for a month, I don't wanna imagine if they keep it this way.
He's sick, period.
You can armchair people you know in irl too. Unless someone says that a therapist/doctor told them they had this condition then it doesn't count. Even then people can still lie and some doctors give bunk diagnoses so I would still be skeptical.>>237271
That sounds like a shitty person but some people are just shitty, not that that they need a diagnosis.
that's what i mean though. literally friend says "i have x"
kill yourself out of the thread.
Yooo calm down. Sorry I can't read your mind when you type so unclearly. Just because someone says "I have x" doesn't mean they actually have it. Based on his behavior it just sounds like he could make it up. You sound gullible.
Also your friend needs to grow a spine. lmao>>237345
Why were you friends with this person in the first place? To the point where you couldn't just block his number.
your friend needs to grow a spine
??? what? my friend needs a spine for telling me he's autistic? okay?
Distance yourself and let her know why. That you might consider being there for her on the bad times, but only if she makes an actual fucking effort.
With bpd even interacting with them is enabling.
Literally I talk about the crazy BPD that controls the narrative of BPD and makes it impossible not to talk about BPD with stigma and boom a wild one appears
"I still fail sometimes with covert narcs though but I have so much anger towards these people for hindering my progress in life for so many years"
What parts of NARCS written twice before that sentence did you have problems reading. NOT EVERYTHING IS ABOUT YOU.
I never suggested I was cured, literally the whole post is about how bring around people with personality disorder people will bring everything back in five seconds, how does that imply cured? All I said was I don't have shitty quality of life in general if I do this ( and many other things) NOT EVERYTHING IS ABOUT YOU.
What are you all even arguing about here? I don't get the "not everything is about you" - when did anyone imply anything was about (other random Anon)
It's just venting about your disorder, no? You're allowed to do that here.
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Except a Narc can learn to deal with the real world through therapy, you can'd teach a paralyzed person to walk. One COULD do something to get help, the other literally couldn't even if they wanted.
Narcs just flat out refuse help, because to do so would undo their entire understanding of life. It's often a self-defense mechanism that goes unchecked to the point that it becomes who they are. Weaponizied Guilt is a hell of a drug.
On that note, I can't stand:
-"recovered" eating disorder bitches, who want to mention it for a social media dick sucking, and seem to always fudge the dates and times they were sick or "recovered" depending on how they feel. The "recovery" is very often is just masking the disorder behind Veganism or Weight-Lifting, both more socially acceptable than bulimia.
- People who were treated poorly and now are "Abuse Victims", or are called out on behaviour that they in turn claim to be a victim of.
Literally any capable, functioning adult who dreams up one day that they have a disorder so that they can bitch at you about it constantly instead of doing work to get better themselves, or do the bare minimum and want a pat on the back for it.
Fucking help yourself you selfish fuck, I'm not here to be Therapy Round 2 after you just left your Therapist's Office. I don't care what you discussed, I don't have any new input on the same subject you bring up every fucking day. Sorry you make some stupid choices in life, we all do, welcome to living.
i have a 'friend' who bawws so much about her self diagnosed BPD i'm starting to think she actually has BPD
i won't post any of her ridiculous shit unless requested bc it'd be vendettaish but shes made facebook her hugbox and deleted anyone who makes her 'uncomfortable' read: doesn't 100% agree with her militant vegan bodiposi sjw ass. therefore the stuff she posts is super personal and insane. from 'I DESERVE TO DIE' to 'guys i just got put on new ADHD meds and i love them sooo much UwU'
I've been living with a BPD diagnosis for 4 years now. Yes, I was diagnosed by a professional. I've tried countless types of antidepressants and different kinds of therapy. They didn't really work, and I felt really betrayed by everyone around me. I wanted a quick fix, someone who could just press a button and I'd be healthy without any effort of my own. It doesn't work like that sadly.
I've been in so many unhealthy relationships. They always ended really badly, sometimes I would dump a guy just to be with another. Rinse and repeat. I'd call them names, demand their constant attention, I even beat up a couple of them. Nothing was ever enough, but of course I felt it was their fault. Not that I saw myself as the best person in the world, sometimes I felt absolutely worthless. But my boyfriends were supposed to fix me, and damn them to hell if they didn't manage it. In hindsight, I was an absolute nightmare to be around after a while.
I had a breakthrough about a year ago, and I just got fed up with being this unstable, depressive, self-harming, suicide-threatening bitch. So I finally finished therapy, stopped smoking weed every day, took my medication as prescribed. I'm not sure if I would consider myself "cured", but I think I'm well on my way to becoming a functional member of society. I actually look forward to what the future holds.
People with BPD aren't necessarily hopeless, but it's become a nice excuse to treat other people like shit and not take responsibility for it. I've been there. Even if they're aware of the things they do it doesn't matter if they don't even try to change it. No one else can fix your shit, only YOU can change the way you act. Only YOU can decide to not let your emotions and instability rule your life and destroy other people. It's a struggle, yes, but it is absolutely possible. Why would you want to thrive from a disorder that will ruin you and everyone around you?
TL;DR: Stay away from people with untreated and/or self-diagnosed BPD. You will be used and abused, and you will get nothing in return. Saged for mostly blogposting.
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Honestly? Paranoid schizophrenia. They think they are the center of the fucking universe and literally the most important/victimized people on planet earth. It may as well be narcissism combined with psychosis. At least most narcissists have deep-seated insecurity that gives them some glimpse of reality. Paranoid schizophrenics actually believe their narcissistic BS to the most extreme degree.
Seriously, if you are disgusted by narcissism or victim complexes, go read what a paranoid schizo will write. I'm 200% for the rights of mentally ill people (even suicidal and bipolar people) but paranoid schizophrenics should be confined to a ward or strictly medicated and monitored.
pic related, and I guarantee you this man is 100% convinced what he did was some noble deed that ~~~only he~~~ could do because he is just ~~~so special~~~. Does that look like the face of someone who feels bad about gunning down innocent people? Hell no.
Not to mention the cases of paranoid schizos randomly cannibalizing living people. Austin Harrouff has photos out there of human chunks in his teeth. Thanks, sunshine laws.
I'm someone with PTSD, ADHD, and DP/DR so I have tons of experience with being mentally ill and knowing it doesn't excuse bad behavior.
I had a friend who would constantly remind everyone on social media she was Schizo-something like every 4 days. She made comics and tons of threads about it. All of her close friends were the types who believed she could do nothing wrong and the whole world was against her. It rubbed off on her and she became the biggest narcissist and try hard SJW. Any down time she would have would be, "Holy shit, racism is sooo fucked up, dude." and "Video game girls with porn bodies rolls eyes I hate Gamers."
The worst part, she was a substitute teacher. She would constantly tell us about how she was the best person in the world once she got to take care of special education kids while at the same time bashing all the other kids not in special ed. When she got to sub for non-special ed kids, she would always have to update us whenever a kid would interrupt her while she was talking, making jabs like "These boys are asking for too much! I'm not your mother! The girls are so nice and behave so well! n_n"
On top of that, she would somehow try to talk about her favorite TV show or video games in her classes, always getting off topic and internalizing all the stuff these kids spewed out. I'm pretty sure she cried like 3 times because of some kids saying they didn't like something she did or repeated some popular meme.
The final straw for me was the event that got her fired from being a substitute ever again, which also gave me a sense of relief. She just straight up told some kids they didn't matter because they happened to be white. Keep in mind, these kids have no grasp of the language of SJWs and she's white herself. She had the decency to tell everyone on her social media how racist these kids are for not understanding something complex. She was just going on how the white kids she taught that day don't care about their special ed, LGBT, or black and brown classmates. Just straight up contradicting her "I'm by-golly the nicest person you'll ever meet!" mantra.
She sounds like my friend who is diagnosed with ADHD with Depression>flies into a fit of rage when confronted about it
She does that when she's pissed. I recall her telling me how she broke some of her stuff when she got pissed. I remember her rant on how people treat her like shit (by shit I mean asking her if she took her meds when she sounded like she needed therapy)>Is egoistical, loves to put others down, talks a ton of shit about other people to the point it gets uncomfortably petty>Worst of all: recognizes that her behavior is toxic and painful to the people around her but she simply doesn't care because of m-muh mental demons. >She's caused me to become majorly depressed as well and I have to live on the edge all the time. Whenever she goes silent I'm about to dial 911 out of fear for her having killed herself. She's nice enough during her sane phases but unbelievably hard to tolerate when the mental issues kick in.
Sounds a lot like my friend. Also, I feel you. She always tries to reach me through messages, but I just mute them instead. I got really tired of her shit and even more tired when she forwards said messages to the public for ass-kissing.
I always considered myself to be pretty accepting and patient with most people. However, I've seen a trend in the anorexic people I meet that made me want to stay far away from them. I've been hanging out with a friend's social circle and so far I've grown to accept and like just about everyone there, except for some of the highly autistic guys and the anorexics. So far every one I've met is less body dysphoria and more cluster B personality disorder. They belittle everyone else's issues, and act like they are the only ones who have ever had problems in life. They often either refuse to acknowledge they are anorexic or refuse to get help, while telling other people they are mentally ill and criticize them for not seeing a doctor based on their armchair psychology. From the people I know with BPD (which is also limited), almost all the anorexic girls actually lash out more than them (ofc the BPD people are actually seeing help). One girl was actually saying how she refused to visit her sister in the hospital over a suicide attempt because she believes it was done for attention, and only she has attempted 'real' suicide. I asked her if her sister went and visited her in the hospital and she said 'of course, but it's different because mine was real'. I could not imagine having a sister that fucking self centered. Another girl also started lightly hinting at my friend (she is newly wheelchair bound) that she needs to start eating less calories and went off about how she should ideally be eating less than 500 but anything less than 900 a day is an ok day. They are catty as hell, they shit talk everyone who happens to not show up and make huge leaping claims off of very little information, it's made my friend hate going there. This is supposed to be a support group, wth.
I also stay away from the suicidally depressed, more so because I don't want to feel guilty if they actually do commit suicide, not because they really bug me or anything. I have pulled far too many all-nighters with suicidal people as it is, I just can't deal with that stress anymore now that I have a job and school.
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I probably sound just as bad as the mental illnesses in this thread. but i have pretty intense trauma around BPD due to some things that have happened to me in the past: The acronym itself, people sharing their diagnosis, reading tumblr BPD self care posts, all that shit.
I don't really do the whole trigger warning thing but people mentioning it sometimes makes me cry if i'm having a rough day. I can read this thread and lolcow in general bc i'm actively seeking it out/expecting it (and lets face it i love it when people shit on borderlines cause i'm petty)
recently it's been this whole "awareness" thing with SJWs and i'm fucking casually reading social media and someone will just post like
>I HAVE BPD!1 I AM VALID!!
>THINGS YOU NEED TO KNOW ABOUT BORDERLINE
I'm fucking done each time i wake up and see a "borderlines need love too!" fucking screencaps from tumblr reposted on to someones wall i want to fucking throw up so i just deleted everyone who did it after i had asked them to hide it or w/e (you can hide posts from individual friends on fb or god forbid just tag it with a warning, something those types of people do all the time anyway with #weightmention #fatphobia #meat )
Yeah I find it incredibly cringey reading anything like that, it just comes off as attention seeking rather than trying to raise awareness about mental health.
Yeah I don't go on fb or tumblr or that anymore but if I did theres no way I would read the shit my bpd friends post cause it would just enrage me.
It definitely seems to be the new mental health trend like ADHD or whatever, I know quite a few people who have been diagnosed with it in the last few years or who have "self diagnosed" themselves as bpd. I don't know why people would want to have it.
I should probably mention that that was only one person, and most of the people in the group thought that was bad, even the anorexic and autistic. Idk if anyone was able to get her to visit her sister though as that kind of talk was pretty triggering
for some so we all agreed to not talk about it or any kind of 'suicide attempt shaming' anymore. I'd like to think someone took her aside to talk after the meeting tho.
Same! I also experienced a lot of trauma with narcissists also.
I had a gay male friend that wrecked havock on my self esteem, and when he ditched me for more exciting friends, a girl with borderline cane in and out of my life over the years and fucked with me. I should have said fuck off, but she was so convincing and I was lonely. Now I have trouble trusting anyone.
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same anon as this post
today i just had one of my friends message me 10 voice recording things of them just incoherently cry-screaming and when i asked them if they could type out what was wrong they asked if i could message their 'favourite person' and insist they talk to her and when i said no they went from
'I don't deserve you you're the best i love you.'
'oh ok well i have to go i want to talk to someone else now'
luckily i predict this shit and am pretty disconnected from the tantrums but holy shit was it a trip. she started ebegging right after her vent with me. I hate bpd so much. hell nah i'm not asking her to talk to you she is ghosting you for a reason
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lmao this girl in one of my gcs has or claims to have fibro and she posts shit like this loke twice a day
i sub-mod and people have mentioned this to me multiple times but apparently they’d feel bad for telling her off
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pt 2 of her regularly scheduled mental breakdowns
O loord this was a guy I used to talk to (and stopped in 2014 so who knows if he's an incel now)
Judging themselves by their own ridiculous standards of others = happiness, obviously, never mind most women don't gaf about imperfections in men
Narcissists. There’s so much overlap between them and BPD, but I’m more ok with people who have BPD because they at least care that they’re hurting others, and when it’s brought to their attention they usually feel really guilty and try to make amends. Obviously this can veer into the BPD cycle of abuse, but a person with BPD can get better, and if they do DBT they’re very likely to change enough that they no longer qualify for the diagnosis. Narcissists just literally do not give a fuck, and when their behavior is brought to their attention, they just shit all over you so they can reduce you to a position where they can tell themselves that you don’t know what you’re talking about. Even if they do decide to go to therapy, they quit as soon as they realize that the therapist sees through their act. They just absolutely disgust me, and It’s well established that the people around them suffer way more from the narcissist’s disorder than the narcissist does. At least with BPD I can have compassion, because those people are hurting horribly. I honestly don’t think NPD should even be a diagnosis, though. They don’t seek treatment, when they do (or are forced to) they don’t change. It should be folded into antisocial personality disorder tbh.
Sorry for double-posting, but I just wanted to add - me too, and it pisses me off that so many people who care about mental health issues will call ableism on talking about how devastating it can be to deal with someone who has NPD, when there’s nothing disabling about NPD in the first place. I’ve been kicked out of so many groups for simply saying that my parent was abusive because
of the NPD, and not incidentally an abuser who happens to also have NPD.
BPD. Everyone I've ever met with it has been a piece of shit, and the people around them that they've managed to manipulate all blubber pathetically about how "they can't help it, they're ill." Sorry, but no. BPD is tough to treat, but it can be treated, and enabling it just makes it worse.
I recently ended my relationship with a boyfriend about a month ago. He's 33. His best friend is a 42 year old woman with severe BPD who met him when he was just out of high school and fell in love with him, and is still in love with him. He is her 'favorite person' that she projects everything onto. He would go to her place once a week to cook meals for her due to her 'chronic fatigue'. This was all really fucking weird, yes, and I tried repeatedly to voice my concerns about her extreme emotional reliance on him. He has never felt any kind of attraction to her due to her unstable behavior / age / appearance, so I wasn't worried about that part, but he said he felt trapped and like if he stopped being friends with her she'd probably kill herself or something. Which I believe is probably true. I am pretty sure she hated my guts for existing.
Nobody who chooses to disengage from contact with a narcissist or a borderline or anybody mentally ill is automatically ableist.
Everybody should escape any narcissist, as well as borderlines who aren’t vigorously working on DBT. Not allowing yourself to be used up by emotional vampires is a personal right, not some oppressive ism.
I have BPD by that doesn’t mean anyone else in the world is obliged to deal with or listen to my shit.
fucking SAME anon
the thing is, i'm a hypochondriac in private. I wouldn't dare advertise it or fish for sympathy. I almost went down that road tho
It was way exaggerated by joining those fucking shitty spoonie hugboxes. I do have some legit issues but most of it was all in my head and it's extremely cringe to me now. Not only that, but Spoontards don't realise that they actually hurt people with this nonsense. IRL fibro-havers are basically laughed at now. It literally induces munchausen in a lot of people and it's insane
anyway i was diagnosed with OCD n shit and i'm self aware and dealing with it. Those communities are almost the equivalent of proana tbh
I had a suicidal friend for a few years. I spent a lot of time arguing with her, talking her out of doing whatever she was planning that particular moment, until one day she just stopped listening and killed herself. That fucked me up for a long time. Nowadays if anyone even hints at suicide, I tell them to get professional help. If they don't, I stop associating with them. If they make overt suicide threats, I'll call the police (I've not had to do that one yet, but I would if it came to that).
People tell me I'm easy to talk to, so I tend to attract people who're unhappy and need someone who can listen to them. I used to try to help if I could, but with that type of relationship, eventually it turns into some amateur therapy situation that I don't want, but that the other person insists on because they're too afraid of seeking help from someone with actual training. So yeah, no more of that, never again.
>>231590>good at hiding their crazy
Also they project on other people and instead of being diagnosed, they just make other people look like they have NPD instead of them
I agree except for the part where NPD shouldn't be a diagnosis. There's a reason why it's called a PD, it's an abnormality so why can't it be called one?
Psycho/sociopathy don't/is hard to change as well so why can't NPD be called one?
Mine replies to me always with "dog whistles". What I mean by that is when I read it, I get it but when other people read it, they don't get it. Which is why whenever I tell people my ex is stalking me and when I show them, they tell me that it could be someone else etc., etc., which is frustrating seeing as how I'm the only one who got it.
Makes sense for it to be called a "dog whistle"
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My sister has fully cocooned herself in her diagnosis as 'shizoid effective' ???
I keep trying to encourage her and give her solid advice on improving her life (like going back to school, getting out of shitty restaurant jobs)
She had a huge mental breakdown a year after our mom died and did a bunch of drugs, and since then even after going cold turkey has never been the same. I basically can barely talk to her, which sucks because we were so close before all of this. But since getting diagnosed after her breakdown and two week stay in the psych ward, she's excused all of her bad behavior with her mental diagnosis and continues to use it like a safety blanket to not have to change the way she lives or behaves. It makes it hard to talk to her at all because even if we avoid anything that could possibly relate back to her mental health she continues to bring it up. She's basically lost all her friends from this as well, which is a shame, but you can't tell her 'its because you wont stop turning everything into a pity party for yourself'.
Lol all the time, I love hearing and seeing the magic words "they're recovering!" KEK so what? It doesn't give someone an excuse to be a piece of shit or do shady shit completely unrelated to the mental illness. Especially if the person's known not to act that way even during their worst. Their apologists only fuel their bad behavior and the cycle continues.
This gives me flashbacks of a couple cows on here.
Also forgot to include that, in order to change yourself completely you have to feel bad about the things you did, which requires emotions and empathy, which some mentally disordered doesn't have so thus no remorse, no motivation nor a reason for them to completely change.
Even if some of them have it (limited emotional range), like I said before, they always come back to becoming a shitty person.
I've never had any trouble with people with mental illness. I guess I get along with them because I have some bad stuff going on inside my head. I've never had a close friend with BPD though, I've read enough about them to know they could hurt me even if they don't want to.
I had a friend with ASPD and he was pretty cool. He's changed a bit now too
all of you (but especially the loons going on about autism) sound like retarded insecure unhinged losers with more mental issues than the people you hate on>>231557
are you really jealous and insecure of autistic people getting called intelligent and getting recognition because you don't get attention enough for being average? lmao
Jesus Christ shut the fuck up sperg and go back into your hugbox.
This is a thread for venting about mental disorders which autism belongs in.
Autistic people ARE annoying as fuck and are incredibly hard to integrate into society without constantly babying them. Their supposed intelligence almost never helps them in life and is usually a huge hindrance.
When people take pride in their autism, I cringe so hard. It's like taking pride in schizophrenia or bipolar lol.
Narcissists apologists are the worst
I have pretty severe BPD and at this point I literally don't blame anyone who chooses to avoid us. Obviously it hurts when people are assholes about it but lets be real here. I've driven my ex to drugs and therapy. If you already know you won't be able to stomach this, then its totally fine to disengage.
Other than that I can't handle anyone with NPD because most of the time they are complete monsters and don't even realize it. At least I recognize my abusive
behavior and am seeking therapy but a narc will suck you dry and enjoy every minute of it.
and yea, I can't deal with this. It hurts so so bad because she is basically my sister, we grew up together and she knows about my story with a NPD person and always said he was a piece of shit (also, he was raised by a Munchie mom so ew, am I a magnet for these people?) and recently she's acting in some ways like him.
She was always caring and patient with me but now she literally throws fit at ANYTHING.
For example, lately she invited me to her house to watch a new movie together, she knows I love this stuff so I set myself in the comfy mood mentally and got some snacks. When I got there, after a couple of minutes she started screaming that I'm annoying for forgetting stuff and that she has to remind me (mind you, I'm on meds that literally kill my brain, sometimes I can't remember my name, how could you get so upset when I asked to remember at which day we were supposed to get out some other time), that I don't care about her because I'm too egoistic, that I'm not supposed to rely on her because she has too much on her head and other kind of stuff. Before getting there we were chatting on the phone and everything was normal.
Lately that day, after I got out crying (and called me being hurt "childlish") she apologized saying that if she didn't act like that I would never understand (what, we've been friends since we were 12, are you real? We always talked about everything) and she's very sorry.
Only for her to call me names again in the morning after and since then it's always like this. I don't text her so much anymore and I miss the time we used to talk and laugh over stupid shit. Right now if we talk it's only about her and if I try to switch the convo to be more light hearted she's says that I'm egoistic for not listening…
It's like a river that's overflowing and I can't deal with it.>>495203
I firmly believe that psychs should be authorized to put down narcs.
They're not people, they're just black holes.
If I were a mother of a narc I would live in infinite shame knowing I kept a baby for 9 months in me only to be born such dysfunctional
I recognize her behavior because thats exactly what I was like too when my symptoms were just starting to get really bad. Basically, this is going to absolutely fucking suck for both of you. She can barely manage her bpd at this point and you're the ones whos gonna get hurt. She will feel bad after splitting on you and she knows its wrong but its probably going to happen many more times. You're probably her fp (favorite person) so she loves you intensely but when she she'll split hard on you too. And obviously its going to hurt. In my experience, she really needs to get as low as possible until the pain becomes unbearable and she considers getting help. I didn't reach out until my ex left me and I thought I was genuinely going to die if I didn't get help. Just like with drug addicts, its all up to her. People told me for years to get help and I didn't do it until I actually wanted to. I'm sorry this is happening to you.
And yeah, narcs aren't human.
I recognize that I'm no saint but it weirds me out when we are friends for more that half of our lives, always talked about our problems (for example, even if she had something wrong with me, she would confront me calmly and I would understand right away and never did that thing anymore and same for me to her) and now if I say that she hurts me she says that I have no right to say that because she's hurting so she's "hurting more because her pain is in her" and she's right and we can't talk quiet no more because she'll get upset with me because "How can you be so calm in these kind of stuff"
Also lately she's been in 3 relationships, with people who genuinely cared about her (she's very pretty and nice…or so, she was), who she autosabotaged because "I'm not the right person to be with and they're egoistical for not leaving me alone because they don't understand me and only want my pretty face" when usually she's the one to text men first…
I'm really desperate. If I say that she needs help, she just says that I'm not in the position to tell her that.
And sadly, I'm more of a caretaker personality and I don't want her to feel alone in this
BPDs are masters at manipulating. They tangle you in their mind games without you even realizing it and when you do, you're already too far in that hole to dig yourself out. It's not your fault.
On a related note, I'm currently in a long-term relationship with a BPD person. Censoring details and keeping it vague because I'm paranoid that someone recognizes my story. I'm depressed and given up on life. I've been isolated by them to the point I can't live my own life or have my own dreams because I've internalized the idea of my only function being to be their spit bucket and personal therapist. I got into this situation because I was already too afraid of upsetting people or defending myself and let it go this far. If I don't bend to their every whim, I'm drowned in suicide/self-harm baiting (the worst part), mental abuse, silent treatment, explosive rage. Whenever I stop to think about my situation, I start crying over every opportunity I've missed because I put someone else's life over my own. I start crying because I'm never given space to have my own feelings or emotions. I start crying because deep down I know I'm not at fault and don't deserve this. I want to drop the situation but the consequences feel too dire, and due to being isolated from everyone else I don't have a proper safety net. I don't know what to do and it's so hard for anyone who hasn't been in this situation to understand how suffocating it is. Thanks for reading, I just had to let it out because I have nobody to talk to.
I'm anorexic but I feel the opposite way. People constantly make rude ass comments towards me and rude jokes.
I recently found out a "close friend" was telling everybody about how disgusting I look lmao. I don't even try to show my body since I cover up due to insecurities.
I do side eye anachans that constantly post body checks for validation though.
I mean yeah you get people commenting about your weight in a negative way but the thing is (at least that's what I've noticed about every anorexic person I've met) they NEED people to know how little they've eaten. I know personally I didn't care how much other people ate and to be honest seeing people indulge made me happy as they at least weren't feeling that constant hunger like I did but I also LOOVED when people called me out for not eating.
Honestly I think anorexia is the most selfish mental illness outside of personality disorders
I've come in contact with anas who secretly LOVE that other people think they are grossly thin. But cry about it anyway because they have some persecution kink. If no one said anything, they'd still bawl about how no one cares, "it must be cuz I'm not thin enough~"
Can't win with ana-chans.
Bpd is one of the most annoying mental illnesses out there imo.
My bfs ex is bpd to the extreme. Last we knew she was living in texas and after months of making new fb accounts to stalk me, she randomly showed up outside our house at 3 am. Mind you they had been seperated with no contact for 3 years when this happened so it was totally out of the blue. They also only dated for 6 or 7 months, it wasnt terribly long term and she cheated on him throughout. She called my bfs phone (whos friend she had similarly stalked to get his phone number) 57 times that night outside our door until 8 fucking am, spam texting, leaving voicemail, anon calling once we had blocked her number, demanding to talk to him about their child, "atlas," they never had because she was faking pregancies and even a miscariage? She was going off and saying she wouldnt leave until she spoke to him, then started flipping and throwing insults and slurs because he wouldn't meet her demands. 3-8am sitting in her car outside the house rage calling…Then i think she drove back to texas, to her CURRENT boyfriend of the time lmao. Then she amped up the stalking and i think googled my email i used for facebook and tried to hack my fb, his fb, my etsy, my email, and my icloud mesages account. Shes quite cow worthy and recently a friend told me she was pretending to be an olympic gold winner or something, and a professional surfer and was going to be modeling in NYFW. super bizzare.
His family at one point paid for her plane ticket to seattle for a family event, and upon some manic spazz, had -her- family buy her a plane ticket to california and ditched him at the air port as soon as they landed and "lost" his jacket his father had given him (something that was veey important to him for sentimental reaaons) after fucking 4 other guys just to spite him. Then came back and expected full forgivness. Re: fake pregancies.
To this day i still get suspicious log in attemts on my accounts associated with that email lol. Could be coincidence but she also started skinwalking my personality and music taste, (was gym bro, self proclaimed quadkween, then turned hippie "love the universe, open your 3rd eye" eco warrior) and even got a nose pericing like mine after she returned to texas.
Its all very surreal and ive never dealt with mental illness in this calliber tbh. After the 3am incedent we decided on a protection order if she tries to get a hold of one of us again.
I agree that you shouldnt really hate people because of their mental illness, but at the same time, these mental illnessses cause a lot of pain to the people around them, and often target certain kinds of individuals for their nativity. I had a severely ill ex who was incredibly violent. He targeted me because at the time I was in the mindset of "everyone is good deep down and everyone deserves 2nd chnaces…. Or 6th or 7th chances… Theres nothing wrong with avoiding people with certain mental illnesses if they make you uncomfortable or scared. I dont agree with outright hating them, a certain degree of empathy is required because it is an illness and most of them have trauma of some sort that led them there. However that doesnt mean you have to willfully enage in their toxic
behavior- you can empathize with them from a distance while still protecting yourself.
I constantly see "my ex was a narc/sociopath/bpd" when someone just has a shitty ex. I think a lot of people in this thread/in general are assuming that anyone who is a shitty person or has traits associated with certain PD's is automatically npd/bpd/sociopath etc. just a reminder people can be toxic
, manipulative, abusive
, lack empathy and be generally terrible without having a full blown PD. also don't assume that just because someone is mentally "healthy" that they won't treat you like shit.
disclaimer; I'm not defending abusive
people with PD's.>>376698
do yourself a favor and never read the comments on true crime videos. every time I watch interviews with jeffrey dahmer there are a bunch of replies being like "awww he just needed mental help and medication:((" dude was CANNIBAL who murdered boys/young men. he deserved a worse death than he got. people say similar things about ted bundy.
Well to be fair anon, -you- dont know if they are just a shitty person or if they have a PD. Youre just going off the stories. These people who are saying its a PD have a direct link to the knowledge of whether or not they have been diagnosed.
Its safe to say they know better than you do whether or not their ex has a PD.
because they were white men
no one's saying that shit about the non white serial killers, lol. ramirez is the most popular one and literally everybody but his teenage girl fans hate him. even grown ass men defend bundy.
Same anon as before but I disagree, I think that anorexia and all eating disorders are extremely competitive like no other illness and its more like an addiction unlike depression. >>495433
I've seen this ring true for many anachans especially those doing the fake recovery bullshit to get attention. I'm avoidant about it and I'm not white so its not something understood in my culture anyways. I can't even afford to get bougee impatient like half these middle class girls who just post photos of their feeding tubes but it is what it is. I'm used to being stigmatized on my appearance at this point.
Wow, and how many analytical posts by /r/raisedbyspoilingparents and /r/dumpedbybpds have you read to conclude this, xir.psychologist? Just eat shit bitch lol.>>495523
Of course you can avoid people who display certain behaviours, just don't group people and then actually imply you're any less red flaggish by hating on them, because for some people maybe that kind of behavior is a red flag, like it was for me. I won't blog too much but personally I couldn't sleep for an entire year thanks to this certain """stable""" individual/scrote who was really obsessed with saying that I suffer from a personality disorder (and even if I was, does this mean I deserve to get harassed or disrespected? wut?). I think with your mentality you're better off to vent about your abuser in communities for victims
of abuse specifically, those communities on reddit and shit where mentally ill shitheads screech about diseases who are still stuck in medieval times don't help at all for anyone except for containing these pathetic fuckers.
It's just sad and funny but more sad that this whole "you are what you hate" thing turns out to be true a lot of the times. When I was dysfunctional I used to hate personality disorders and autism and now I am no longer as much of a bigot. Not a coincidence I say.
It's a spectrum but IMHO socialization plays a part.
I know two high functioning autistic girls who are more considerate than neurotypical people, they're friendly and kind whilst still being typically honest and logical. I didn't know either of them are autistic until it came up, I just thought they were introverted geeks. One is very candid in how she works to perform social skills or to explain her behavior and doesn't tolerate people that don't make the same effort as her, I wish that level of attention to maintaining relationships was normal in everyone.
On the other hand the autistic guys I've known have been more selfish even if they were still nice people. I'm sure there are exceptions to my experience out there but I've never been surprised to learn a man is autistic as it's always immediately obvious. They use it as an excuse for everything too. I could never date an autistic man or someone with a personality disorder, it's too much like being a mother.
Everyone says that autism is different in women. But if you don't have the traits of autism (being inconsiderate and inattentive) then how the fuck do you have autism in the first place? It makes no sense.
I did have a friend with autism. I haven't seen her in several years but the last time we saw each other, we were 18. She wanted to talk to me about her video games the whole time, which was boring so I left. Not all women with autism are normal, which people on here love to say.>>495635
NTA but you just want people to get trampled on with no repercussion huh? Sweet.
That still doesn't make any sense. Plenty of women without autism cut and have eating disorders. You need to be more specific.
And you said it yourself - it's obvious when men have autism and less so when women have autism. Why are you surprised that fewer women are diagnosed with autism?
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Why is everyone here larping as psychologists just because they see one every week?
Everyone on this complex bpd subreddit just claims to have ptsd we can just do that right? I am glad I'm embracing it now too, yes my stalker was correct but at least I'm not a pos narc. Narcs are the real enemies bitches some more about internet nobodies
t. uses a gossip image board
I still think that people who deny being mentally ill are the most mental ones.
are you kidding? the same thing happened months ago
when this thread stopped getting replies.
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>ur mentally unhinged
Nah, I am the only mentally unhinged one and I'm damn proud of it.>>495996
My licensed psychologist who is sitting next to me disagrees with you.
Even though these two girls and a couple others put me through a lot of drama I still miss the good times and think about going back to them. Guess it’s cause as an adult I don’t have as many in person relationships. Any other anons experience this? How do you stop yourself from going back to people with toxic
I don't really deal with a lot of people with personality disorders on the day to day, so maybe I'm a bit limited in my exposure in saying the only ones I really can't stand are narcissists and borderlines. I cut out the especially toxic ones.
Also I don't have proof, but I'm pretty sure my ex had psychotic traits. There's nothing worse than trying to appease and tolerate an unhinged person who gives no fucks about anyone but himself. Oh, and the part where they admit they want to hurt people and are violent. Which he always threatened.
He once threw a chair across the room and tantrumed about how 'difficult' I was because I said I didn't want to watch a movie he had picked. I never got to pick anything we watched, and if I did he showed complete disinterest. Whenever I didn't want to do what he wanted and gave my reason, he took it as a personal affront and criticism and would become extremely hostile. I took him out to eat once for breakfast, and noticed suddenly that he was leering at me with an evil look like he was going to burst up from the table and harm me. Apparently I had pissed him off because my food was hot and I allegedly chewed with my mouth open and he didn't like it-I don't chew with my mouth open normally so clearly he was analyzing my every move because he wanted a reason to justify his hate. When he'd have me drive him to his parent's house to visit, he'd kick me under the table and randomly squeeze my arm tightly to the point where it would hurt. After the visit he'd start going off on me in the car as I drove us, to the point where I cried, because apparently the things I said to his parents had embarrassed him. I was meant to take his violence against me as a cue to shut up, even though I had no idea why he was hurting me and he made no attempts to verbally cue that.
I could go on with the stories, but let's just say I ended it when he restrained and attempted to batter me on a holiday where he got drunk, and then called me the next morning blaming me and accusing me of having "abandoned" him because I went home instead of staying with him.
Yeah. I'd say violent mental people are up there on my list.
B Clusters can all be rounded up into camps for all I care, not a single one I've ever had the displeasure of meeting has ever not been a worthless leech and emotionless psychopath.
I do feel bad for trannies but having to deal with their mental disorders online and in all my hobbies and literally never being able to escape politics has /pol/pilled me into hating them and not wanting to listen to them.
Anyone who thinks fictional characters have rights needs to be shot in the fucking face, people just want to read fanfiction of a character they like getting their asshole destroyed by a large cock it's not that deep you closeted child molesters.
Except that I am? Not really a friend but he's a man in my family with 5 distinct personalities, who developed it when his wife died.
One is "him" who is usually quiet, the others are apparently a child, another violent man, a teenager and who the fuck knows, just him but on the sad part.
He would randomly scream at my mom, the start crying the moment after saying "X did that and he's sorry", when he's the teenager he just get obsessed with the kids in the family (creepy) and other time he can't stand them.
It's draining and it feels shitty because you don't know who you're talking to.
So I imagine that if I can't stand a man in my family who I see around 3-4 times a year, I wouldn't stand it with one of my friends
I mean you shouldn't enable any mental illness and encourage anyone with one to get help no matter if it's depression or the more uncomfortable personality disorders lol. Sorry your posts just reads like>Im all for enabling mental illness>but fuck bpd not that one get help
I'm for people getting help. Not enabling it.
At least the other disorders try to function in society/are a lil bit aware of their condition, BPDs fail to see this and most of them DONT WANT to go to therapy because they believe the others are the wrong ones for not enabling them
I'm curious, what are these other mental illnesses?
BPDs have great self-awareness even if they will not admit certain things in front of people they don't like or trust. The whole thing revolves around having too much self-awareness actually.
Yea, it's true, but they believe that since they got abused then everyone is an abuser, no matter how you try to be nice to them. If you say that you're not gonna hurt them, they do not believe you and project their minds on you , to which point, if you get a bit distant because you know, you don't wanna be treated like a doormat they're like "NOOO COME BACK"
If you try to make them sit down and think about stuff, they think you're gonna attack them or think they're wrong and they DO NOT LIKE TO BE WRONG.
They're a child in emotions but fail to see how that's a problem and they expect people to be at their feet, to the point they don't go to therapy, also no wonder how many psychs don't want anything to do with them
Schizo spectrum people go to therapy to get a better life, depressed people go to therapy because they want to function properly, BPD people don't because they don't feel they're "sick". They're always right, even when they're hurting people, because "you know, I'm like this"
NTA but overwhelming majority of women diagnosed with BPD have suffered abuse in their childhood/teen years whether it be physical, sexual or psychological so yeah it's most likely the case that whatever trauma they experienced it hinderd the part of the brain that processes emotions to grow properly etc.
BPD is a lot more complex than anons on here like to think & very much closer to a spectrum than just the one size fits all BPD-villain that everyone on here always comments on.
The thread is called "Mental disorders you can't just deal with" not "let's empathize with people who are too much for other people"
The majority of BPD people don't ever bother get a diagnosis. I'm pretty proud if someone sees that their attitude is poisonous and tries to be better, but BPD often don't see anything wrong with them and try to brush it off as being "blunt" or "honest" while they just split on their friends or lovers. >>543830>I don't think I've ever interacted with someone who has it so I don't know if they're THAT bad.
Just wait then
I think I answered while making my points. The point of this thread is basically ranting about stuff we cannot deal in people via our experiences, not being lectured or "discussing". Here you can't find people who can't deal with people with ED, depression, Schizo etc
I'm on the cluster A spectrum myself but you don't see me replying to people saying "Well??? You know its not like this?????"
because it's their opinion and that's it.
If you like BPD people go get split on and excuse their behaviour, fam. I've got plenty of examples in my hands to make up my points and we can see that in general, BPD drains too much
Then write your posts in a more clear manner because it's super hard to decipher what you're trying to get across.>That last sentence
lol I actually study this so I have a different kind of interest in this topic but I guess?
Nvm lmao, oof
hurted me bad
I'm glad I saw your comment before replying to BPDhate anon. I'm diagnosed with it, as is my older sister. There's not a cure for it but I've personally done a lot better with regulating my emotions and self-destructive tendencies (I'm a "quiet borderline") since going to therapy for close to a year. Sounds wookie, but practicing mindfulness helped a lot. I've been having more consistently stable days these past few months since a giant cause of anxiety and my volatility was relieved to where I sometimes question if I'd still meet the criteria.
My sister, on the other hand, is a more textbook borderline and her destructive tendencies are towards her relationships. I
can't even stand being around her for how volatile she can be. In some ways, I understand where the BPD anon is coming from because of how she is. She is draining to be around. It's all about her, all the time. But it's also an exhausting disorder to live with.
I do wish >>543842
would stop generalizing all borderlines as abusive
and complacent and realize that it's a spectrum, like any disorder, re:>after the first one you would never want anything to do with them
because a lot of us fucking hate this disorder and are ashamed of having it due to those very stigmas. It's no wonder it has such a high suicide rate with how we're percieved by the general public – a lot of therapists won't take on patients with BPD because of the abusive
/unresponsive to therapy, etc. generalization.
>>543862>Coming to a thread where people bitch about people they don't want to be around and can't deal with, it's literally the title>Get hurt when own disorder is mentioned.
God for you if you're in therapy, don't forget about the majority of people with that disorder.
If there's stigma, ask yourself why. No one here is giving you asspats.
Many disorders are abusive
in their own ways? Yes.
It's BPD one of the most abusive
? Also yes. Just read the many replies in this thread. No one is special.
ED people are annoying and if they're bulimic, they're disrespectful, Schizoparanoid people are annoying and drive you insane, Depressed people bring you down too and Narcissistic people should be eradicated at birth, BPD abuse people and then cry about it. That's it. A lot of people are mentioned here and I wonder why it's always BPD people who feel the need to protect themselves on the internet.
Right? BPDfag myself and I genuinely don't understand why these uwu bitches would get so personally offended. It's just true that BPDfags have abuser TENDENCY, comes with the territory when you suffer from emotional disregulation. Just keep your head down, do your DBT and don't be a piece of shit, that's how you dismantle stigma, not policing others feelings on the internet.
Muh self-awareness means jack shit btw, if you don't actively practice self-restraint. I've seen it too many times where "self-awareness" just translates to "oopsie I knew it was a bad thing but I did it anyway. Please stop being angry at me I KNOW I'm a horrible person!!!!"
Being defensive and upset that someone else is upset is peak BPD.
This. Having gone through abuse in the hands of someone with BPD and developing depression, avoidant PD and symptoms of CPTSD because of it I'm just so tired of BPDfags getting patted on the back and rewarded with patience for destroying other people. Along with the one who fucked me over I've also met a handful of other people with BPD and only one of them ever decided to get better (and also did). The rest of them wallowed in their mess and demanded constant validation and were constantly up to their BPD hijinx. >>543862
There is a fucking cure, it's called cognitive behavioral therapy and it works for majority of the cases. You're just looking for an excuse not to work on yourself. >>543921>I've seen it too many times where "self-awareness" just translates to "oopsie I knew it was a bad thing but I did it anyway. Please stop being angry at me I KNOW I'm a horrible person!!!!"
"My" BPDfag used to do this all. the. time. to shift the blame on me after hurting my feelings or messing my plans up irreversibly. To the point I get a fight or flight response someone else even hints the same kind of behavior even if they didn't mean to.
The constant anxiety, tension and the fear waiting for them to explode on me and tear me apart. One day they might suggest something, then get mad at you the second day when you suggest it yourself. The sudden cancellation of all plans you were looking forward to during a episode. The isolation after they've guilt tripped you into dumping your friends because they hate competition and feel constant, intense jealousy. The way they are able to talk about themselves and their problems for 8 hours straight without ever asking how you're doing. The suicide threats keeping you up at night. The unbelievably out of proportion tantrums when you are more skilled than them in something, no matter if it's just a board game or career advancement. The negging they try to disguise as jokes, and the straight out verbal abuse they spit at you. They lie so much because inside their head they honestly believe their own lies to be true due to the twisted amounts of mental gymnastics they do. If you want to live with a person with untreated BPD you need to be willing to give up your own hopes and dreams, your whole life in fact because it will be fully dedicated to supporting that other person. Because they're the ~victim
~ and deserve it. I'm so fucking bitter about losing so many years to someone who never appreciated it.
Your post reminded me of so many of my old friends, one of them was self-diagnosed BPDfag and would suddenly switch and treat me like shit when I rejected her sexual advances. Like I made it clear that I wanted to stay just friends, the other wasn't diagnosed at all but she was a fucking insane bitch that would start fights for every little thing and casually belittle and look down at every one around her. I don't know If she had BPD or NPD but she literally never experienced any hardships to warrant a BPD diagnosis.
Honestly people with BPD and NPD are fucking scum and are interchangeable since they both think their hot shit to cover up their underlying self hate. The only difference is that NPDfags are better at hiding their crazy in the beginning while BPD can only hide it for a day or two.
>>543973>it’s jarring, triggering and disrespectful
I honestly think it's straight up malicious. You don't show off your eating disorder unless you want to rub your lower weight or superior control in fatties faces.
There are lots of people with EDs who are secretive and don't have egos about their eating habits, but it still often attracts the sort of vain, competitive assholes who take pride in their ED.
I see, that makes sense. Interesting.
I come from a culture where mental illness is still stigmatized, so nobody's going to be announcing their red flags to me.
>>543862>because a lot of us fucking hate this disorder and are ashamed of having it due to those very stigmas
We hate to even having to deal with you all. Stop being hurt, recognize your toxic
behaviour, no amount of blogposting or "I hate being this way ;((" will work.
You are acting like the very stereotype of your disorder and that's what is making all of us hating your category. Go to therapy, be proud of your progress and stop being offended by imaginary enemies on the internet.
Bruh, you're here to policy other people and are trying to play some cheap psychologist role to try to make others feel better about you and your people. Stop posting anytime, really, it's not good for your brain.
How is relevant? even if they reply you, it wont matter, it wont make some BPDfag feel better, including you.
You do realize that that kind of jealousy is a trait of BPD, right? BPD people, since they hate themselves so much, find a way to feel the worst in anything. They see someone succeed? Automatically they're shit compared to them and go cry in their room. That's why so many people say that BPD is "draining".
You can't be better that them in something or they'll feel like a piece of shit and will whine for days or just right up split at you, finding some "You know, it's disrespectful when you're doing (thing) around me because you know I'm not good at (thing) and it makes me feel bad :(" excuse.
They're like this. It's a trait.
Can we stop the BPD asspats already? Even true BPDfags do not agree with this amount of ass licking
I was once friends with a person with untreated BPD. It was awful. They believed they had some sort of double personality or something that made them act like this and while I agree it's awful to feel out of body, you have to do your best to sit down and think twice before splitting.
They asked ME to control their splitting. How?
"When I feel that way, could I reach out to you? Could you help me calm down?"
So no responsibilities.
I said yes out of love and boy, I wish I didn't. Not because I wanted to be bad, I'm for helping people and I have no problem being the shoulder to cry over in a bad moment, but it was overly clingy.
They would call me in the middle of night, call me when I posted something on social media and it didnt include them, text me every hour for days.
Cried about how people couldn't stand them, when they purposely texted a bunch of people, invite them at their house, forcing relationships and after realizing they wouldn't be happy with them because who the fuck knows, dumping them. The shortest one was less than a week. It left that person devastated, because they were chatting for months and just after days they were "official" they got a split and a block on facebook and everything.
They purposely want "broken" people around themselves so they can feel better but when one of them is in a bad place, they say that "they're egoistic, I'm feeling worse!"
One day I went to their house and they randomly split at me. I said to get help, they replied "You're like the others, you're attacking me"
No Sherlock, get help. The other people aren't specialized, your friends arent' your therapists.
If you try to bring some positivity, they refused it because they want to bathe in their suffering for pity points.
They're closed in their heads and even ruin people with those delusions. You have to watch out how to talk because you can have all the good intentions but if some words sounds bad to them, then they hate you, shut up for a few days while they process some form of "Owww I didn't know you were talking about THAT!!" thought, meanwhile insulting you, then come back with an "I just want to be with you!" act, rinse and repeat.
They lock themselves in the basement, give you the key, bang the door pleading to get out and while you're opening the door they just block it. No one deserves that amount of eggshell walking.
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This thread should be renamed "BPD fags vs BPD-hating fags" because that's literally all it's been for 2 years.
>get help bpdchan
>no you, bpdchan
>no, no, ~you~ the bpdchan not me!1
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you "i'm a quiet bpd" faggots are the worst. absolute bpd pickmes. everyone still hates you and you're the exact same as the more obvious ones
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Im dumb and Im depressed. I have like an extreme fear to confrontations so Im a very easy person to handle. I have been force to house my gramma because no one else can to and I hate her. I feel like the family slave. Ive been supporting my family but the more i give the more they depend on me. I feel very selfish wanting to be left alone. Im 25 and I very paranoid of everybody judging me if i ever stop supporting my relatives. I had a third cousin who just hang himself last week and when I knew I just thought, Im glad he is released from this painful existence. Thats how bitter and hateful I am.
Because besides NPD, BPDs are the absolute worst disorder you could come across and usually get entangled in their web of mind games and control, they're also much more common (1.5-2% of the population) than NPDs (0.5% of the population). That's why so many people happen to have bad experiences with them. ASPDs (and schizophrenics and other psychotic mental cases) are usually bad with hiding their crazy so a lot of people don't interact with them and most other PDs are much more dangerous to themselves than others, but BPDs manage to pretend to be normal people long enough for their victims
to fall into the trap. It's not like there's an obsessive anti-BPD task force hijacking the thread, it's just because BPDs tend to cause a lot of problems around them and affect multiple people and their behavior is often so explosive and aggressive that it evokes the strongest experiences. >>544064> They lock themselves in the basement, give you the key, bang the door pleading to get out and while you're opening the door they just block it. No one deserves that amount of eggshell walking.
This is honestly the most accurate description I've ever seen.
That anon also casually leaves out the fact that borderlines notoriously have high attempt/low success rate
They’re probably more likely to die from accidental overdose, their eating disorder or being murdered by psycho boyfriends tbh
>>544465>Depressed people who can't even shower or get out of the bed
Do you mean depressed people who …exhibit symptoms of depression? I don't think anyone who's not some type of mentally ill would willingly choose to lie in one place all day stewing in their own filth. At least that tumblr person was making an effort to overcome herself.
Now depression fags who just unashamedly sadpost and wank off all day, who gave up on trying, who actively avoid betterment… Yeah those are a burden.
>>544461>I've known a couple of BPDers as friends I met in college and lived with one of them. I remember reading up on it wanting to be a good friend, mostly found that I didn't need to be any more sensitive with them as most of their emotional issues were only really present with romantic partners.
A big trait of BPDs is that they have one "favourite person" they direct their abuse into. They might be relatively normal albeit more sensitive when interacting with other people but when they get back to their favourite person, often a best friend or a romantic partner, they split uncontrollably. They're prone to love bombing one day and then doing a complete 180 to lash out at them. It could be triggered
by not responding to their "I LOVE YOU SO MUCH YOU'RE PERFECT IN EVERY WAY!!!!!!!!!!!!" text in 10 seconds followed with 50 messages of how much they actually can't stand them. My friend with BPD (got better by therapy and meds) was a moody and an unrelieable friend at worst, but straight out tore her partner apart.
But in all honesty the "catching fleas" part is true. BPD isn't a mental disorder, it's a personality disorder. It's a behavioral pattern that's so deeply internalized it becomes a part of you, and the therapy used for treating BPD focuses on learning new coping skills and how to deal with your explosive feelings to replace the unhealthy pattern you previously followed. So it's not at all unexpected that someone would pick up similar behavior to cope in the relationship that has lasted for a while and has been intense.
to me it was just funny how that one anon is having a tantrum over bpdfags and how they all have abused her and she is a lil cptds victim
and then that one anon says that
>Someone saying everyone abused them >too many people fall for this
like yeah i mean bpdfags are annoying but letting them live rent free in your head is not heatlhy either
God, shut up. These people acting like being abused by someone with BPD "isn't that bad" and they "need to get over with it lmao" really seem like they're trying to justify their own abusive
behavior by belittling it. Get out of the thread if you can't handle people sharing experiences they had when dealing with crazies. Having to go through abuse in the hands of someone with BPD isn't just "dealing with a jerk" like enduring a bossy coworker giving you shit, it's actually living hell that leaves you in pieces unless you recognized the red flags early on and jumped ship.
lmao oh my gooood
this is why i fucking hate mentally ill people everything is just nothing but a evil conspiracy to take you down, no one can ever mean well to you
i'm not saying that going through abuse isn't bad. i'm just saying you are clining on identifying as a victim
This drives me nuts too! Autism comes in such a range of severity that it's insane to act like the high-functioning people can speak for everyone. It's all very well to call cure research 'ablist' when your main symptoms are awkwardness, hyperfocus and flapping your hands a bit, but what about the people who will never be able to live independently, or the families who have to deal with violent outbursts from children who have grown bigger and stronger than their parents? We had training on this at work and the speaker was telling us about some autistic people's hyposensitivity causing issues like walking on paving slabs feeling like sliding around on ice. Why would you object to someone wanting to be cured of that? But people do because it's 'ablist'.
I gather this is a problem in mental disability rights groups more generally. One woman got ripped apart in the news for writing an article about looking into medically stunting the growth of her severely mentally disabled daughter. This girl would never progress beyond the mental age of a toddler, and would always need the same care as a toddler. Everyone acted like she was a monster and there were tons of comments from people with mental disabilities talking about the rich lives they lead, as if they couldn't see the difference between someone who can leave a cogent comment on an essay in the news and someone who will literally never learn to walk or talk. It really highlighted for me how the needs of mildly and severely disabled people are very different, but obviously the severely mentally disabled people aren't capable of advocating for themselves, so we only ever hear about what the high-functioning types want.
The Louis Theroux documentary about low functioning autists https://vimeo.com/62502549
is very well made and shows how difficult it is to live with a child like that, it's obvious that none of the kids will be able to live on their own one day, I'm pretty sure the parents would take the hypothetical cure in a heartbeat. Even the higher functioning teen has obvious speaking and social problems that prevents him from living a normal life. I don't know how the documentary was received at its release, probably very badly judging by the state of online autism activists, they always complain about the parents being the only ones to talk (well duh, their children usually can't do that).
lol no this is me samefagging i have no reason to deny these>>544488>>544490>>544491>>544496>>544503
this thread is a good reminder why mentally ill ppl are annoying, all mentally ill idiots are over dramatic and self centered and suspicious how bunch of evil enemies are out there to get you
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this thread is clearly just for people who have been burned by bpdfags. we can't help it when we get sick of you, sucks you take it so personally!
literally nobody's hateful to us apart from people on imageboards. you can use it for sympathy and shit like extensions on deadlines and triggering
yourself into an episode is great for making others seem abusive
. learn to use it.
>>545136>Grasping for straws to hate any person with BPD
Pretty sure that anon meant she can't speak out about the abuse she went through. Not 100% sure because the wording was unclear. >>545128
Your first sentence is right. The rest is a prime example of why people hate borderlines. Telling another anon to basically try to be a worse person? Really?
I'm borderline myself, I just don't go out of my way
to manipulate people. I'd like to actually keep those who love me around. I'm proud that I'm significantly more stable than I was a year ago. Bragging
about being unstable is unimaginable to me. Sorry you thrive on chaos.
Same. No one says it but BPDfags who know they have BPD, most are actually proud of it, the crytyping online is obfuscation. True self is like the samefag ITT lol
It's just their lack of identity that makes them emulate, hopelessly wish that they're Lisa from Girl, Interrupted but really they're the chicken girl.
That's a good comparison, I totally forgot about that movie. >>545150
is a prime example. Just wants to drag all the other BPDfags down with her, probably thinks you're misdiagnosed if you don't "embrace" being a piece of shit, and how dare you try to actually get better?
the farmhands banned me for this post?? >>545126
what the fuck. im literally being silenced. i cant even speak my mind ONLINE and you guys still tell me IM NOT ALLOWED TO WHINE ABOUT MY SITUATION? IS THIS THE FUCKING TWILIGHT ZONE?(banned proxy)
Your personality disorder is showing, anon.
Speaking of autism, I couldn’t date someone with it. My dad is high functioning and he’s…not great. He’s embarrassing and confusing and his temper is fucking ridiculous. It’s hard to describe because I’ve been living with it my whole life and always knew he was odd but thought it was mostly something wrong with me. He’s simultaneously robotic and like a toddler.
It’s sad and it brings up a whole lot of feelings for me that I can’t and will never resolve so I don’t need anymore of that shit in my life.
>>545126>i have BPD and seeing everyone being so hateful towards us makes me want not to get better
EWWW EW EW EWW!!! WHy are you all like this??? What makes you do this?? Do you expect us to be empathetic about your shitty behaviour?? Oh no, some meanies online are bad!! Time to get worse, that will show them!!
Shut your mouth
>>543629>WHY CAN'T I HAVE A TANTRUM AND SCREAM AT YOU IN PUBLIC? WHY ARE YOU INVALIDATING ME? REEEEEEE
BPD has a considerable amount of overlap with Autism so it's no surprise as to why they're so retarded. Not to mention the fact that they make up a high percentage of inmates. There's a reason why mental health professionals generally avoid them and BPD is code for difficult patient. These crazies will "fall in love" with psychiatrists and then go out of their way to strip them of their credentials after rejecting their advances.
Anyways, always steer clear of BPDs. The initial idealization seems sweet at first until they paint you black and go on a rampant smear campaign when you want to hang out with other people lol
Be incredibly boring, gray rock when they freak out, wait for them to lust after someone else
Or if u can keep a safe physical distance, break up through text, block, ghost completely
Can you tell a bit about how your OCD manifests? I'm afraid of having developed OCD-like traits myself because I get immensely
neurotic and obsessed with some stupid fear my brain comes up with, basically on the level "what if I left the stove on at home and now my apartment is on fire, oh fuck I need to get home immediately even when I'm at work, I need to know right now, what if I've lost everything to the fire at this point, how will I replace my things". And this goes on for 8 hours with me not being able to concentrate until I get back home. Or I might read up on a sickness and suddenly start self-diagnosing myself to the point I'm about to throw up from fear and anxiety. Do you have anything like this?
It's never going to be peaceful. Be very clear that your decision to break up is final and that nothing will change your mind. Don't lay blame on them or that'll send them spiralling. Even constructive critisism will hit them wrong. Get physically seperated and cut off contact so it feels final.
If they are prone to suicidal behaviour make sure someone knows to keep an eye on them but it can't be you. It needs to be a clean cut off.
>>545505 > please learn how pds actually work
I have a lesser talked about PD myself so yes I'm aware that they require a long history, I was diagnosed nearly ten years ago after a long history of anxiety and avoidance. I've been married to a diagnosed BPD too.
She has shared so much of herself online for well over a decade, vids, writing articles, a podcast, book, shared a whole lot of her history and that history even changes alot so that's another fun fact about her. Like I said yes it's an armchair post.
Watched a livestream about this a couple days ago. An expert in cluster b personality disorders was being asked about her behaviour and he spoke about bpd.
It's two hours long so quite in depth but some of the points I remember were how she specifically talks about using peoples past traumas or bad childhoods against them to trauma-bond them to her and get what she wants from them, playing with someones trauma for the sake of getting sex and attention from them. That and advising others to follow her example and ultimately dispose of the person when they are damaged. The expert had worked in the prison system in the uk with cluster Bs and had never met anyone who so blatantly understood and described using that method to take advantage of people.
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>Mental disorders you just can't deal with
NPD, like every sane person, I hope.
Also pic related.
Yep. The difficult thing is they can be the most interesting and charismatic people when you first get to know them.
I'm not saying everyone with BPD is like that, but being friends with them tends to be extremely emotionally exhausting. When I was friends with one I constantly felt kinda shitty and like I wasn't good enough, because even when she praised me it always felt a little off, like there was some implied vitriol there too. At the time I thought I was imagining it but thinking back I think it was real.
Both when she liked me and when she suddenly didn't anymore I didn't feel respected as a person. It was like I was only there as an object to help her and support her when she needed it.
AYRT. That's so true - I felt like I was only there to fill a space in her endless roster of friends. And no matter what I did, I was never cool or exciting enough for her and she dropped me at the first chance she had.
All I'll say is, she ditched me and left me in a very dangerous situation that I nearly wasn't able to leave. And her 'apology' never said the words 'I' 'am' 'sorry' in that order, because I was in the wrong for hurting her precious feefees, and in return I deserved to be put in danger. I meant it when I said I hope the bitch chokes.
Her mental illness was an explanation, not an excuse. Fuck people with BPD, never again.
Hi anon. I'm quite new with this diagnosis, it interrupted my life completely in January 2019 and I think it started to build up with childhood trauma and the death of my two dogs by different illnesses, when they started to get sick I would search for their symptoms online, I was constantly scared and would tell my family that they were going to die and they said that I was exaggerating. Obviously they died from the illneses I told them…anyways I'm a extreme case so it manifests first in repetitive thoughts about me or my family getting I'll or dying in a violent way, getting robbed and killed, dying in accidents, etc. So I get physically affected, then I worry even more that they or me is definitely going to die, and I start picturing horrible scenarios in my head, then I search on Google my symptoms or news about accidents or weather conditions in the city my relative is, I write them or try to call them. Sometimes that calms me down, sometimes I'm not so lucky and it only reassures my fears.
Besides the panic attacks in which I feel like I'm definitely dying, I can't breathe and my hearth races until I pass out I suffered from a lot of physical symptoms that disrupted my normal life: inflammation in all my rib cartilages, ofically named tietze syndrome (still not fully recovered from this one, it was so painful I thought at first it was a heart attack. I could not breath well because the contraction of the ribs was painful due to the inflammation of the cartilage) inflammation on knees, wrists, ankles, fingers, lumbar pain, muscle pain and inflammation,spasms, involuntary muscle movements, fibromyalgia in the first months that started, hormonal imbalances and cystic acne in my face, back, chest and arms,intense headaches, tingling sensation in my legs, face and skull, electric shivers,eyelid twitch,tachycardia, nose bleed, restless legs at night, angular cheilitis, and of course, extreme exhaustion.
I felt all this at the worst and lowest point, nowadays I have calmed the fuck down. If I spiral down I get the cuts on the corner of my lips, headaches, acne, muscle spams and inflammation,but all of them still very mild compared to last year
Since this thread is frequented by rehabilitated BPDs and those that have a history with people with BPDs I felt like this would be an appropriate place to ask for advice. I have a friend with BPD and sad to say I'm her "favourite person". Dealing with her has left me absolutely mentally exhausted.
She lovebombs me and keeps telling me how important I am and how nobody else makes her life as happy as I do. It was flattering at first, but during the period of time I've known her it's become creepy and obsessive - like she's doing it to secure her back. She's a very smart, kind and a lovable person when she's at her best, but when she splits it's literally like a Jekyll and Hyde case. She turns hostile, blows the situation way out of proportion and hits below the belt berating me, absolutely devastating and humiliating me until there's nothing left. She badmouths my other friends because she's jealous, and often makes it a "it's me or them" situation. Her splitting can be sparked by any small, insignificant thing and I constantly have to walk on egg shells around her. In return she often negs me and becomes frustrated when my feelings are hurt and makes the whole deal about her.
And the worst part? She suicide baits. A ton. I've had to talk her out of suicide multiple times. She's told me that she attempted it but failed. Every time she starts doing it it triggers my body's stress reaction immediately and I freeze completely, being unable to help her. I've lost sleep numerous times being afraid of her being found dead in the morning. These are just some of the things I've gone through on a daily basis for as long as we've known each other.
I have my own long history with depression and PTSD and I'm exhausted. I don't know what to do. I'm not a mental health professional and I don't have tools at my disposal to help her. My other friends were worried about me but I stopped talking to them about the situation because I didn't want to burden them. It's so easy to tell someone to cut a poisonous person out of their life but for the person actually doing it it's near impossible, especially when there's nobody to support them all the way through. Now, anons, what do I do? How do I take steps to get out of this living hell? How do I help her get better? How do I make my life worth living again, and how do I start living for myself instead of for someone who basically holds my heart hostage?
rehabilitated bpd-fag here.
she will not kill herself. if she has attempted so many times without at least ending up hospitalized, she is not trying to end her life. she is using it as the ultimate form of emotional blackmail. "i'm so fragile and broken, you can't hate me for the fucked up shit i do. you can't leave a suicidal person, that's wrong."
i got my ass handed to me after old school friends got tired of my shit. it hurt like a motherfucker. so much so that i continued on with my bullshit for a few years being absolutely miserable before i finally realized i was the problem and only i could fix it.
she'll be devastated and angry, but if she can't respect boundaries, it's what you need to do. if she doesn't want help, she won't improve. the worst bpd-fag can make a miraculous turnaround if they truly want to improve and take their therapy seriously. unfortunately the fact that she's called you her "favorite person" isn't a good sign. no therapist i've ever met has used the term, nor do they approve of it. it was invented by self-diagnosing tumblr users to excuse their abusive
you can try setting boundaries but honestly, unless she is very dear to you i don't think the emotional labor is worth it. the best thing you can do for yourself and her is to cut her off and be honest as to why. she absolutely will not like it, i won't lie to you. but you're being held hostage and that isn't right. she will not willingly release you from that position now that she has you there. make yourself a priority.
Yeah, it's the best. Also being with someone who didn't took shit from me, didn't enable any of my behaviours and fears and constantly tried to make me do new things and multiple tasks making me feel useful and always boosting my confidence by changing my appearance, going out and meeting new people, leaving me alone in a city that I don't know so I could manage stress and fears better despite of me being in literal tears and pain most of the time… that kind of person is really useful in your life anon. Someone who sets the alarms of all your nervous system until you become numb to it lmao, someone who does things without warning you, always making plans at the last minute without worrying and without telling you nothing.
You didn't like that I changed your plans and didn't gave you time to overthink, stress and worry about it, you little maniac fuck? Not my problem, get ready.
the person who talked about wanting to beat up their bpd abuser is obviously traumatized. tons of victims
vocalize how they want to hurt they’re abusers and therapists often tell them to write “hate letters” which is when the client writes everything they want to say to the person who’s hurting them and then rip it up. it’s a way to cope and a natural feeling. if you’ve never wanted to hurt someone then it seems like you’re repressing a lot to keep a “pure” image of yourself.
And you are hurt for an entire category because? Like, really, stop liking instable people's ass. It's kinda obvious that people here get out their frustrations, it's the title?
Why does it matter for you, bpd chan?
Fam, you act like people can't talk shit about other people who hurt them and you're getting offended on the behalg of people you don't know for whatever fuck know, plus you're only replying to people bashing BPD. I suggesting you go to therapy. If this thread triggers
you so much, just leave?
>>547033>idk why you think i reply to everyone in this thread when i don't
Fam. Even if you don't, you get triggered
by stuff posted by other people. That's pointless per se. Why are you so mad at people saying they got bad experiences with BPD? Who are you defending? Literally, who cares?
My point is why are you caring about what other people say online. You're telling me to chill but the second someone posts about a person who hurt them you're ready to invalidate them. You're still not replying: Why do you care so much about BPD people?
If someone has a thought of hurting a person who hurt them back who cares anon?
Bet my arm that you will reply at the next BPD post lol
nta but it's an early sign they /might/ become like their abuser. the bpd was the same once, the bpd's abuser was the same, and so on. I find the whole thing ironic, and my sympathy for a victim
ends when they want to harm others
And if you knew basic psychology, even children wish to hurt their abuser. It's directed to their abuser only and want some kind of revenge since they don't feel like they deserve it. Not everyone just eats shit up and excuses them because their abuser is a "BPD suffering angel "
Mentally ill or not, if someone fucks you bad (reminder that some people who dealt with BPDs developed PTSD but I mean, that's normal right?), it's normal to wish the same fuckery on them. Don't tell me you didn't even wish someone just broke a finger for doing you bad, fam. No one here is actually beating people.
do you realize that this is what you are defending, right?
>When people with BPD rage out, I just want to beat their shit up until they can no longer speak.
there's no personal story of wanting to beat up their abuser, they just sound unhinged, like when people say they want to beat up criminals and shit. it sounds more like a weird power fantazy.
>>547047>there's no personal story of wanting to beat up their abuser
"Ah yes, I need a two page essay on why your statement should sound good in my head."
Maybe anon didn't want to blogpost so much. You like playing lawyer, yes? As others said, I don't think anon goes around beating people up, it's obiouvsly angry at their abuser and they wish the same on them, which is human. There are plenty of people who for example just say that Narcs need to be killed with no explanation, have you read the entire thread or what? Power fantasy or not, I don't think you're involved so yea, no need to go that deep anon.
I once dated a narc, quick list of the shit they used to pull
>"You don't know japanese! I know better than you!" to a friend of mine who studies japanese in uni and works as an english-japanese translator for tourists only because he misread a kanji once. The narc only watched anime and looked up kanjis of their favourite words
>"I made my uni teacher cry for how deep my essay was but she said that I didnt get the highest score because that might have looked suspicious!"
>"friend is better than you!" said that to me when I was still studying and my friend was already out of uni and got a job. I was in a dark place and I slowed down a bit my studies and they knew
>Proceeded to make my friend their friend, made us constantly have arguments, badmouthed me and when we got to the point of not talking anymore, they said "Aw, Im sorry you no longer talk"
>When I was studying and focused on my stuff, they would give me the silent treatment. Why? "You're the only person I talk to, it feels bad to be ignored. Never do that again, you now know how does it feel.".
>"All the people before you didn't understand me. You're like an angel that came for me!"
That shit fucked me up for so long, it hurts still today and I have trust issues for everyone. I now panic if someone doesn't reply for a day or two because I'm worried if they are mad at me, because this person used to ignore me if something happened, only to return a week after saying "sup??" and just dropped hints of what "I've done" here and there.
For example, I did thing and they were mad. They would give me the silent treatment while I was asking what was wrong and I was ready to discuss.
After some days, they would return like nothing happened and do shit like "Oh no, you dropped that fork, you should be less airheaded, like the one time you hurt me by forgetting my mom's birthday"
Jesus, this sounds exactly like the shit my narc/bpd friends pieces of shit put me throught…
I cut them out quickly following the advice of retards and it was a fucking hell for 6 months of constant attempts to guiltrip and bathmouth me to strangers. Constant pity parties of "I dindu nuffin u_u I'm baby" bullshit at their social media and tweets threatening with suicide and destroying their own works to bait me to come back after being yelled at and treated like dirt. The autists who told me "just cut them out! XD" didn't want to help me clean the mess afterwards. I've been so strongly gaslighted I still felt bad after more than a year at what I did to them and I had been left with severe anxiety issues.
You need to be really careful and try to cut her out progressively and slowly, and be patient. Keep distance with her. Don't answer her texts inmediately. Send silently the message of wanting to keep distance. Invest your time on trying to find a support system and on finding professional help too because you are most likely going to need it to stay sane when she starts throwing tantrums again.
This can take months, maybe even more than a year. You need to be patient, good luck.
Welcome back, bpd-chan. Don't you have someone to emotionally leech off and abuse instead of missing the whole point of my post, or your victims
finally told you to fuck off as well?
Yet I'm going to give you a serious reply before you attempt to twist the narrative again: obviously, when I just got away from my abusers, I still didn't know why I was being treated like that. As the anon I was replying to very accurately pointed out, they held your heart as a hostage and threaten with suicide and self harm several times to emotionally manipulate you, and I was scared shitless at the beginning of them finally succeeding. Again, obviously, now I know better. Now shut up and stop trying to pick up fights.
It might help you guys to Google ocd coping mechanisms and hacks.
Get into the habit of photographing your stove and door when you leave the house each morning. Save up and get a ring camera on your front door if you're able to, or some kind of baby monitor you can access from your phone that you can keep in the hall which you would be able to see the front door from and tell if the house is actually burning down.
If irons and hair straighteners only add stress to your lives, don't straighten your hair and avoid fabrics that need ironed. Obviously it can't fix your ocd but it can help to just let go of what would be normal for others.
When someone is dyslexic you get them tools like e-readers, be kind to yourselves by removing whatever problem areas you can.
Just stop, it's being very cringy at this point……
No one is gonna view BPDs as angels, you efforts are getting thrown in the void, go chill somewhere else
>>547566 >The few BPD people I've talked to still have bouts of lucidity in which they understand how they've hurt others and try to make it right.
I've seen them get bouts of guilt or shame but then flipflop back and forth between that and playing the victim
again, it's interesting to watch them rewrite history from "I was abused" to "actually I was the abuser"
I've not been close enough to see it, but from what they've told me, that does match. and what's even more worrisome is that they truly believe whatever narrative is in their head at that moment.
The only BPD person I have intimate knowledge of is my sexual abuser, who was diagnosed with it. I don't think he had it, though. He never viewed himself as fragile or anything. In fact, he considered himself to be a master manipulator, and openly bragged about it. He was very good at playing the part of someone more gentle and tender at points, though, so I got sucked in.
as someone who has and is currently enduring severe narc abuse after 20 years this is very accurate. once in awhile after hours of fighting and gaslighting etc etc you might get one flimsy, lazy, manipulative "i'm sorry" but it is never ever a lasting or simple apology, it is followed by either some guilt tripping victim
playing instigating comments or more pure abuse/attention whoring bullshit. the only way to survive around true narcs is to walk on eggshells, never reveal your true personality, and try to maintain distance as best as you can.
Autists: No matter how high or low functioning they are, they get asspats for straight up being rude or can't think twice before they speak. Or just drooling on themselves. I am aware it's not their fault, but people don't have to bear with them. They're shilled as highly intelligent or smart but I still have to see a smart autist, they just obsess over things until they live as a walking encyclopedia. It's called special interest.
The corona here is bad and I've seen two autists going out without masks and gloves due "sensory triggers". Yea, you could die but at least you're not triggered.
Bipolar: It's a dice playing game. Their episodes starts randomly and end randomly and you don't know how to talk with them and have to train yourself to speak with them.
BPD, mostly men: Reading here I realized that people talked more about BPD women but the men are ten time worst.
They're immature and seek out many relationships at once, often choosing young partners who are naive, because they know that same age partners are usually more mature than them (for example, if they're in their 30s, they will choose people in their 20s), so they can manipulate them better, throw dangerous tantrums knowing that their victim is powerless then buy their affection back with the victim act, gifts and whatever. They're dangerous and can fuck up a girl very easily (since we're coded genetically for being more emotional). BPD men do not deserve sympathy. Their lucid moments don't ring something in their head. Lock them in some sort of prison and the world would be in a better place.
Narcs: Just don't need to say more. Put a narc in the trash.
EDs, especially bulimics and binge eaters: little uwu cunts who lack self control and cry about it while seeking some sort of approval by people.
The last post made me think about how ED people with bulimia right now are crying because being forced into quarantine for them means that they're living in a literal hell where hell is the kitchen.
Where I live the economy is going bad, really bad and these shitheads, even in rough times like this, instead of saving up for their rent since they cannot work, buy a shitload of food because they're "stressed", eat, puke and cry for muh disorder and muh money.
Since these EDs are what I call "the first world diseases" maybe try to look at yourself in the mirror and say that you're gross and ungrateful. Man, I wish that the parents of these entitled little fucks just would lock them in their apartment and deliver them just the necessary food for the day, then they will realize the value of it. Feel like you're in prison? Try to live like one. The thought of them shopping and picking up stuff claiming "I need to survive for a week", eating it and puking it makes me absolutely furious. The food waste is a problem, but there's difference in not being able to finish your meal because you accidentally made/ordered too much, throwing out expired things you forgot about and these people buying it knowing they will not gain nutrients and energy and vomiting it, just a tool to vent out their emotions.
They deserve every tooth falling out and rotting.
Nice try, but I'm not bulimic. Stay narcissistic.>>548027
People don't do it because they want to. If this is really about wasting food why aren't you mentioning foods that are constantly thrown out if asymmetrical or food thrown out by businesses. They actually just want to waste food, a sick bulimic doesn't want constantly be b/p.
Food thrown out if asymmetrical or by businesses can be put in services like togoodtogo or doggybags. There are MANY of those. Speaking for my country, if food is not good looking enough to be sold, it's but in some baskets and left late at night outside stores.
I'm mad about that people who while buying stuff go "Ah yes, I will totally throw this up". They don't see food as something good.
You're not bulimic but good job defending them>>548045
BPD is more common than you think. If those people bothered to get diagnosed and not only just bathe themselves in unstable emotions, the numbers will be higher.
BPDs make up for 2-6% of the population. Which doesn't mean that there's a 2-6% chance that you'll meet one, it means that for every person you meet in your life, there's a 2-6% chance they're a person with BPD. Considering how many people an average person meets per year, those are viable chances that you'll meet one. According to estimates you'll meet around 500 new people during your lifespan so that's 10 people with BPD you're going to interact with. >>547920
Damn anon this is some bitter hate. Not a fan of people with EDs but it's definitely not a "oh no im such a fatty :(((" type of deal, it's about wanting to have extreme control and only gaining it by restricting their food intake and in case of bulimics being able to throw it up. Kids with alcoholic/abusive
parents often develop bulimia or anorexia due to this. It's more sad than enraging to me even though I understand the frustration over wasting food, but I feel sorry for them. What I don't feel sorry for though are the pro-ana communities online who coax each other into starving themselves or binging&purging and compete over who's the ana-channest of them all.
Some is armchair, same with alot of the narc posts.
When I've posted my experiences it was from working at a type of day centre for people with mental health issues. They would be let out of hospital and then they'd go to this centre and basically just hang out all day so they wouldn't be home alone or left without structure. There was a high rate of people being let out of hospital and quickly taking (or faking) overdoses to get re-admitted to the ward, the day centre seemed pointless to me at first but then I learnt that it cut those rates of readmission. As long as they had some attention.
I don't live in Burgerland. We have a millennial food culture and for us it's important that we see that as nutrients, to the point it's almost ritual and yet..
The bulimic people I've met just wanted to be pretty (their words) but didn't wanna gain weight, still they wanted to be gluttunous, they vomited once and now they're stuck in the cycle. Controlling behaviour or not, fuck them, no excuse, become an ana and don't eat if you wanna be skinny or just suck it up
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Yeah I agree. I'm gonna sound misandrist, but I honestly wouldn't mind befriending or getting to know women with most mental illnesses, but mentally ill men (the ones with BPD or ASD especially) are the worst. Pic rel.
chance of meeting them sure but forming a close relationship with them, multiple
times, to the point where it's a significant problem in your life is very strange, like there is probably something not right with you if that's happening
I dated a troon who had BPD and abandonment issues, for a year. Gender dysphoria mixed with BPD are probably the most toxic traits I could find in a person. I fucking hated how hypersexual they were and every single time I declined having sex because of personal reasons (being on my period, being bloated, no sex drive, sad/emotional) they would explode and think they weren't good enough for me, and then spiral down into doubting their gender and have an entire pity party - which I had to reassure them and provide emotional comfort. Anything that they proposed, and I declined, was a catastrophic event which for them meant that I resented them with all my heart. I have never opened up to anyone about this. I genuinely think some guys transition into females just as a kink. I've NEVER met anyone that hypersexual before, and who took sex so seriously. I've always been a strong advocate for trans people, I even have friends who are trans and whom I get along very well. But this person changed my whole perspective on how some people use their gender as a fetish, on top of having a mountain of psychological issues. I'm a firm believer autogynephilliacs exist, especially after what happened in that year. Being around them was like walking on eggshells. They were obsessed with me, it felt like I was in charge of their happiness. It was a toxic relationship. I don't want that kind of responsibility. When I broke up with them, it felt like an emotional WW2. They fucking lost it completely, to the point I was terrified they would commit suicide. I settled for still being friends, and things went downhill fast. They stopped talking to me, I was the one always initiating a conversation checking up on them. They would play that game where they'd be very short with their answers and I would have to fish out words out of their mouth. Everything was so intense and felt like it was my fault. I've never seen someone drag me this badly into despair, someone so toxic. Ever. God I hated how they would always fucking play victim and act so innocent, yet be so fucking unaware of themselves and selfish. Not everything is about you. If every single small argument/inconvenience fucking obliterates your identity and makes you scream-cry that you're not even "a real woman", dude get institutionalized. They would come up to me and say I deserve better and they're just a joke of a person. Little did they know, I was the clown for always forgiving them.
I wish what you said was true. I have nothing against people with any mental health problems or struggles. I met lovely people from all walks of life that had a plethora of issues. But when someone puts all their issues onto someone else,it's vile. And for me, it was huge clash to distance myself from a person because of mental issues.>>548500
I have trans folks as friends, so i never thought I would meet someone like that.
This is like textbook extreme BPD and very similar to my experiences except I wasn't dating a tranny. Especially the part:>They were obsessed with me, it felt like I was in charge of their happiness
This is seriously the worst. Literally being in charge of someone's happiness is so taxing and hard because it feels like you're carrying a stone with both hands everywhere you go. You slowly start internalizing the mindset that anything
you do will have to take their feelings into account. And I really mean anything
.>Can I go to my other friend's birthday party or will they feel left out and pitch a fit at me?>Can I go to sleep early today or will they be pissed that I left them alone? >Can I tell them about my great achievement or will they be discouraged and start a pity party for themselves?
Etc. It eats you up inside so bad. >>548499
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She probably was bpd. I understand that if someone sleights you and doesn't seem to listen to you that the common thing is to call them a narcissist but BPD is pretty hard to get actually diagnosed with and therapists can pick up narcs. If she was misdiagnosed at all she would have been misdiagnosed as bipolar instead of bpd. Just because she called herself a god doesn't make her a narc either, I've done that before and I'm still bpdfag. THere's overlap between the two and you can look up similarities between npd and bpd if that's interesting to you.
NTA and I definitely think they're massively generalizing, but CSA survivors who haven't dealt with their trauma properly can often be not just toxic
AF, but literally dangerous. Some will think everyone is out to molest children, to the point of voicing their baseless assumptions or even making accusations. I have several examples of witnessing this in my personal life, but the most extreme one was when my aunt said she worried her neighbor's 16 year old daughter was planning to molest her son because she offered to babysit for a low rate.
Then some will be sexually abusive
themselves. When I was 14 I was sexually abused by an 18 year old friend. Years later she apologized for what she did and explained it was basically her fucked up way of dealing with her own sexual abuse as a child. My therapist told me this was not uncommon and that CSA survivors are statistically more likely to become abusers themselves.
Then of course there's just the general high key toxicity. There's a massive overlap between Borderline and CSA.
Not necessarily. It can be a red flag for lack of empathy, especially if it's ongoing and severe (ie: you're killing animals, dissecting them, keeping parts of them as "memories," etc).
Kids can do shitty, impulsive things like bully others or hurt animals as a reaction to trauma and abuse. It's the lack of empathy component that really determines whether or not the person is potentially psychopathic. If you've ever done bad things to animals, but you feel bad about it, you're probably not a psychopath.
I'ts not a bad thing to make choices which will help you be better. You're not avoiding those people because you think they don't deserve friendship, you're avoiding them so that you can look after yourself. It's like how often addicts need to cut out other addicts.
I'm a really lazy person with bad habits, I can blame this on ADHD but I'd rather just be friends with well accomplished people and try to follow their example even if that means I'm always the least accomplished in the group. I just get sloppy if I spend time with people who blame things on their diagnoses. It's nice to have some friends that understand my situation but they can't be my only friends, I like to have some baseline of normality to copy.
If they made fun of me for it they wouldn't be my friends kek
They're only well accomplished in the sense that they're living their own lives without totally fucking them up, I don't think I could hang out with actual Nobel prize winners or heart surgeons who hated me for not being on their level, that would just be demoralising.
Same anon here, i mean like..why am I always so fearful? My childhood was kind of shitty but nothing too overly ~traumatic~. I always have this feeling of impending doom and something really awful/catastrophic happening in the future. Sometimes I know it’s completely irrational but slip back into the cycle of justifying my intrusive thoughts.
It’s confusing because I know there were things I went through that very well could have contributed to this but I don’t think it was severe enough to warrant the degree of anxiety I have today. I’m not sure if my brain was somehow always wired that way or something because my siblings (they have their own issues) aren’t as mentally fucked.
I haven’t had any near death experiences and I haven’t witnessed anyone have one either. The stuff I have endured seems pretty innocuous in comparison to what I’m afraid of.
>>554657>My childhood was kind of shitty but nothing too overly ~traumatic~
What do you consider to be "overly traumatic?" Trauma doesn't have to be some catastrophic, life-threatening event. It can be little, chronic things that build up over time, like verbal abuse or neglect from one or both parents. It can also be things that happen to you outside of the home, like bullying by peers, or simply feeling alienated from your peers because you're "different." Honestly, I'd bet there's still things in your life that are regularly triggering
you if you're still dealing with this level of fear. It could just be that something about the pandemic and this lockdown is enough to put you on edge.
Our genetics may make us prone to expressing specific emotional irregularities in response to trauma, but the one thing we all tend to have in common is the trauma itself. I'd honestly go as far as to say that most, if not all, mental illnesses are just a response to stress and trauma.
Not everyone is the same. People have different images of themselves. I may think I can lose more weight but I know I'm objectively underweight. People who tend to idealize eating disorders tend to be tumblr wannaorexics.>>554585
First of all, it's impossible to have anorexia and BDD. It's explicitly known and stated that body insecurities from eating disorders are not the same as BDD. BDD is about specific body parts and anyone who claims to have both is talking out of their ass.
I invalidate it a bit, my parents were both in the picture, I always had food and a roof over my head, stable financial situation, and never went through any sexual abuse or anything . My parents were physically/verbally abusive
at times, both argued a lot with each other and would single me or one of my siblings out to take out their misplaced anger on an east target.
I was kind of scapegoated, especially by my mom and I’ll never know why. I’m the only one with a job , long term goals, and enrolled in college. I still live at home but the rest of my siblings are all complete NEETS. They’re more emotionally stable though despite being coddled/spoon fed . I’m hoping once I move out some of these issues will resolve themselves.
I’m 20 right now, hopefully by 22 I’ll have my own place.
Sometimes I think feeling helpless stems from the fact that’s my mom was never emotionally available and some of her behaviors seemed congruent with a cluster b pd (sorry for armchairing ig). I couldn’t cry in front of her without being humiliated and lectured about how difficult her life was and still is, There were some It’s occasions where she simply ignored me altogether.
They would both lose their temper really easily, I still try and negate what they did because I don’t think it was always intentional. I don’t know want to be that person who blames their parents for what went wrong. I’ve always just subscribed to the idea that my brain is like…defected or something and irregardless of my circumstances there would’ve always been something messed up with me.
They weren’t bad all of the time and would try and make up for things.
In addition to that I was bullied a lot and for a very long time I was convinced I was in the spectrum because of the immense social alienation I’ve felt.
Thank you for the insight , I appreciate it.
You’re right about my environment still being a source of stress. It’s not so bad now but I thinking I’ve acclimated to dysfunction and have grown numb to it.
The pandemic and isolation has exasperated a lot, once I start hanging out with friends and going out I’m sure it’ll improve.
Do you really think that it’s mostly the parents to mitigate? Pretty sure there are loads of transmen daughters who brag on youtube about having good parents even though they didn’t really support their transition. (No, I’m not a TERF sperg, it’s the only recent example I’ve seen onlineinsert reddit exclamation marks three times
>>555159>My mom is an undiagnosed autist
are you too?
autism isn't even a mental disorder/illness. it's a learning disability.
Can relate so hard. I use the Still Face experiment personally.
The thing is my mom isn’t the even autist, it’s my dad. I don’t know what’s wrong with my mom. >>555197
Autism is a developmental disorder.
Anon didn’t even describe her mother beyond “undiagnosed autist” and already we have people telling her ~what’s actually going on~ and nitpicking because the analogy she used doesn’t line up exactly.
Reminds me of something…
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Anyone else familiar with Eugenia Cooney?
I first heard about her when there was a petition to ban her Youtube account and I've been loosely following her journey ever since.
Honestly it's so frustrating to see her relapse in her eating disorder and being back in her denial/delusional state. It's also highly disturbing that despite being a grown ass woman in her mid twenties she continues to act like a 12 year old and doing nothing with her life other than making videos about buying pretty clothes, expensive make up and playing the latest video games. I feel like she could have turned her life around after her rehab by moving out (her family background obviously contributed to her being ill) and continuing treatment, but she sank back in her old habits and it's just so sad
I think it's upsetting me because I see a little bit of myself in her. I grew up with a controlling narcissistic mother who stunted my emotional development, and I wasted years of my life trying to live up to her standards and being a 'good daughter'
Have had similar experiences with male autists. Both through college. One was openly homophobic towards me and I had to just listen to his shit about how >men should be men and women should be women so gays shouldn't be allowed
The second guy was clearly interested in me and would say things like >I love a good orgasm before bed! don't you anon? I orgasmed last night to help me get to sleep.
I pretended I had never had an orgasm just to stop him from visualising me like that. He seemed really disapponted. Again I couldn't do anything cos male autists could get away with saying anything in my college.
Textbook bpdfag throwing stones in a glass house over here, but I hate other bpdfags. I’m enough trouble by my damn self and I still have to deal with my narcissistic/bpd ass mother.
I do not like associating with autists, but since childhood I’ve had this unfortunate air about me do to being quiet, polite, unpopular yet still attractive that draws autistics and other tards to me as they see me as non threatening and friendly. I always entertain the ‘friendships,’ act kindly with them, defend them against bullies and don’t talk shit about them, but god school would have been so much more enjoyable if I wasn’t herding around a group of spectros. (Tbf, the female autists are waaay more tolerable than the males.)
The most revolting mental disorder that I despise above all come from the troons. Very awkward because most of my female friends from high school have come out to be anywhere from non binary to agender to full power troon, tho it wasn’t surprising (see above: was surrounded by autists) tho I have a bias and can understand that females transition out of trauma or suppressed misogyny. The REAL nasty mental disorders fester in the mind of the TiM troons, especially the type to label themselves as ‘lesbians’ puke
To me some bpdfags are the worst people associate/have a close relationship with. Not all of them are awful ,I’m sure those who actually make an effort to help themselves are alright.
My ex best friend of 6 years was classic bpdfag , she was diagnosed but ‘rejected’ her diagnosis and instead self diagnosed herself with schizophrenia and made it her entire identity at one point. She faked hallucinations, which was so bizarre and disconcerting.
She was so possessive of me, mirrored my entire personality and adopted every single one of my interests. She was malingering and whenever I couldn’t hang out or had preexisting plans she’d spam me with messages detailing how she self harmed and wanted to kill herself. There was a perpetual cloud of drama around her (especially in regards to her on-and off again boyfriend who she was emotionally abusive
to). Like most bpdfags I’ve encountered she romanticized her self destructive behaviors/substance abuse.
It was a very one sided friendship, every time I’d vent about my issues she couldn’t just be there listen and would somehow always relate it back to herself or one up me. I felt like an unpaid therapist at times.
I’d argue that cluster bs are worse than any hyperfixated and immature autist. The worst part about being close to them is witnessing someone destroy themselves over time and not being able to snap them out of that and help them.
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replying to this thread as a toxic bpdfag myself and pretending i'm not guilty of the majority of complaints on here
i only empathize with those that aren't harmful towards themselves or other people
cannot stand faggots who do all kinds of attention seeking stuff and then brush it off with "b-but i am C-COPING!!1!!!1"
i believe that kink is harmful
the majority of "kinky" people always have extreme fetishes like violence, abuse, getting choked/slapped, etc. and you shouldn't associate coping, aka trying to feel better mentally, with something as degenerate as that because at the end of the day you're still getting abused in bed under the disguise of "kink"
yeah, it's like depression but still not giving up the ghost. you're depressed but you're not really, just maladjusted. the social thing is notable and a very good observation. i've always thought that a really depressed person traditionally wouldn't care to ask. it's true anhedonia. you can be depressive but i feel as if real, genuine major depression has become forgotten and had its true meaning warped entirely. we're all puppeteering dead bodies but can bring ourselves alive, i think true depression is when you can't bring yourself alive. the people operating dead bodies love to tell everyone else and draw attention to it as much as possible because they're still in there. that's talk therapy depression, not ect depression. dysthymia as opposed to crawling out of your own skin and bugs living within you. brainworms but the worms never eat it but with mind-numbing "hey this research says depression CAUSES BRAIN DAMAGE" depression bad things will happen. you can't float along if it's that bad. you lose empathy you lose connections you lose it all. The grand show "oh i'm falling! i'm on a downward spiral" you're in a kiddy slide you have a harness on as bad as it seems. these people wait for the push from within their brain to finally tip them into madness but it never comes. Madness and feeling miserable are different things. you cannot lose your sanity just because you are in hell. your brain keeps you tethered in. you're not ophelia and you will keep operating. every woman believes she's on the brink of madness or so the quote goes. is she waiting for that push too? the blissful slide into loss of the self? the beautiful feeling of getting high but never coming back down. are you waiting to feel your brain come out of your ears and smile because you know it's finally happening or do you want to wake up one day and discard yourself and never know any better? do you want to die? similarly, would you want to die a hazy, happy, drugged-up death where you know what's happening. is it the satisfaction of dying that you want, but not really death? i think so. i think you want to be conscious and to know you were in the right. i really think if you pressed a button to die suddenly like a car hitting a clueless deer, you'd say no, because where would be the fun in that? you want the end of your story to be written into your little narrative instead of the file just becoming corrupted, unreadable and like it might as well never have been. you know you don't want to die stop trying to convince yourself of it. you're not mad enough, you'll never be mad enough, you're a self-indulgent little girl who is driving herself crazy, right. did that resonate. it told you what you always knew and what your mother told you, too. you're not crazy, you never were. you'd just love to be.
tl;dr - I'm not like the other depressed bitches – especially seeing your "deeper energy" comment >>557824
. Go back Tumblr with your weird, fake-deep prose á la Marya Hornbacher.
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i'm not on anything. literally i know it can come across as deranged but it's tapping into a subgroup of women that have an understanding with each other. they are dead and souls reconnect over and over again but their souls cannot be exposed, they can't truly reconnect as this would push them to insanity. picture it like a big vase that shattered millions of years ago. the women are all the pieces and they're tiny. the vase can't be put back together. now all these pieces are scattered everywhere, getting lost over and over again. i understand that it's easier to dismiss these strange thoughts and typical real-world cynicism looks down upon what seems like make-belief but there is a supernatural feeling unlike any other when you recognise it in someone or something or some place. these people leave traces everywhere and they die over and over again and we can smell the death and our spiritual hackles are raised but you can be calmed. i have communicated ONCE very very clearly with one group which shouted in my ears over and over as i pedalled fast away from them but there are many groups and you must understand that there is malevolence there. you can't expect a shattered vase not to cut you if you try to pick it up but if the light catches on it right, you see every moment you howled alone reflected back at you and you understand that you were always watched and there are guardians and it's terrifying but you will never be alone and that's not always a good thing. morally grey spirits watching always. it's taxing it's draining. this is what i mean. you want it to leak out of you to be able to stop perceiving these horrible feelings and threats. you can selfishly beg for insanity because that will make it go away, if you are not aware of yourself how can you be aware of something you need to be so finely tuned into (willingly or not) but you are a vessel. your body does not belong to you, you are a vessel for these women to inhabit and you will be prevented from dying by your own hand because you cannot destroy property that is not yours. "you" make up very little of your consciousness. you're simply a guest in a hotel where many others are staying and you cannot attempt to slip yourself into insanity and ruin the others living there because you personally cannot stand the pressure. it's not about you it's about them
Sooo just out of curiosity, do you put Crystals on your chakras and bathe in the moonlight to resurrect yourself? What's the process there.
I've never been a part of a roleplay thread before I'm excited.
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Common sense? Sorry I guess I'm not familiar with the setting. Does our story take place on a faraway planet where necromancy is the governing force? My character is going to be an UwU depressed girl, with a penchant for big words and messy sentence structure. Unless of course that conflicts with your character.
>>557967wraps my arms around u
"S-senpai… will you teach me the ways of n-necromancy?"
(I hope I'm doing this right)
But as for the lying, so many of them do, some who have had threads on here and elsewhere lie about having a laundry list of ailments /certain aspects of their lives & trauma to illicit sympathy or just pointless things.
The thing is though, they’re really bad at lying but will stay committed to it
Damn, that’s awful anon ..I’m so sorry you had to go through that and am glad you’re out of that relationship.
Do you think it’s possible he had another cluster b opposed to having bpd, like NPD? Vulnerable/covert narcissism (Especially in makes and sometimes in females) can look similar to bpd but it’s obviously much more malignant and there are a few distinguishing characteristics
nta but they exist
My friends group was having a little art contest to have something to do during quarentine. This was by no means a big deal, just a fun thing that only like 10 people were participating in and the winner gets a cute little doodle of whatever fictional character they want. There was a rule against using digital mediums that like half of us broke because it wasn't clearly stated. The girl overseeing the contest made a post clarifying it to the group FB page and apologized for the confusion. It was not a big deal.
In comes the sperg, who wasn't even participating in the contest, but insisted on being in the group so he could watch. He makes a post ranting about how ~obviously~ digital mediums wouldn't be allowed because they're sooo easy to take shortcuts with. It's just common sense! How could you not at least ask??? He drags it on for several posts, basically calling us stupid and rude in several painfully pretentious ways. I comment and gently explain that tons of art contests let you do digital and it's really not that crazy that we thought it would be allowed. He responds back, going on about how he refuses to apologize for having more common sense than me and a whole bunch of shit about how rude we are.
I've seen him around my friend's FB pages quite a few times. He's one of those cringey red pill types who complains about everyone being oversensitive, while he gets triggered
over the craziest shit. He once went off the deep end over some anime he likes having the sexualization of a 14 year old character censored out in the English version.
Haha yeah! And a lot of them are undiagnosed too so they deny anything is wrong with them, and the lack of self awareness about ANYTHING is real.
I notice a lot of them like sperg/ have weird habits with food and drinks too. Freaking out over slightly undercooked/ overcooked meat, putting day old tea in the fridge and microwaving it the next day, eating day old fast food, seriously wtf.
spd is suggested to be removed it hasn't actually been removed afaik
t. actually diagnosed with it
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autism but that's probably a stretch
Skinwalker here, cluster b, it can be done out of admiration though, there's harmless enough "mirroring" and there's skinwalking which is fine if it's a celebrity but weird if it's a friend>>565177
To be honest, autism in women and bpd seem weirdly interlinked with each other, at least in my experience of the psychiatric system. they're more similar than you'd realise and it seems you get bpd if you're more "out there" and dramatic but autism if you're the same but more reserved or socially awkward
Thanks for the responses anons, I've always been curious.>>565178
I'm glad there's skinwalkers who just admire the person rather than agressively try to assume their identity - but better. I respect your honestly thanks for explaining.
One BPD trait is having no fixed identity, which naturally leads to skinwalking and trying out different people to see what gets them attention. I even had a BPD guy skinwalk me
for a couple months.
An extremely common cow trait is skinwalking, even the lesser cows like Taylor and Kelly Eden do it. Taylor skinwalks whatever popular person or trend she thinks will help her career, Kelly adopts the personality and interests of whoever is her housemate, best friend or boyfriend at the time. It's an easy way to appear "interesting" to any suckers who don't realize how insincere it is, which gives the BPD person more energy to feed off.
Often these rapidly changing interests and personalities are confused for artistry so they will usually have some hangers-on and stans.
I wish I had some decent advice for you but the situations I've dealt with have all ended badly. I wasn't instigator of what ended the friendship, it was more the person crossing a boundary that lead me to stand up for myself. I think eluding to my awareness of their behaviour (although as kind as I was) rendered them unable to forgive me/ashamed to be around me, which I doubt they'll ever admit. They had a lot of cluster b traits (thanks again anons) so everyone's going to react differently depending on their symptoms. I put years into caring for this person but my acknowledgement of their disordered behaviour rendered our friendship irreparable.
Although a lot can be selfish (most likely unintentionally) and not respect the mental strain it puts on the original person it's best to try to remind yourself "imitation is the highest form of flattery". Even if they have bad intentions towards you, there's still a part of them that feels you're worthy of emulating. That and no matter how hard someone tries to live in your skin they'll always fall short. You're the accumulation of a life of experience that moulded who you are, where as they're superficially mirroring what they see. It doesn't equate to anything genuine.
I've personally found feeling sorry for them is the best method to guard yourself from the emotional strain and sense of confusion situations like this evoke. These characteristics from my experience are very ingrained, and a lot of them aren't fully aware/don't have a sense of normalcy like you or I do. Although keep in mind how you're feeling is completely natural. You have a right to feel the way you do and what I'm saying doesn't excuse the behaviour, only explain it. Sorry for the unnecessarily long post.>>565198
Thank you for more context, I genuinely didn't realise BPD was what I was dealing with all this time. Also kek at the male skinwalking you, I've legitimately never seen that before. One of the more obscure/odd things my ex friend did to me was regurgitating a lengthy political/socioeconomic conversation we had once late at night. Years after we stopped talking she was engaging in a public discussion with some people and spouted my opinion word for word. I'm genuinely surprised she remembered it so accurately, it was almost frightening. Although it's not very kind of me I did get a little satisfaction from "liking" her comments… Kind of a little "I agree with you, but I also see what you did there".
The issue is, that it's my family memeber.
I really hope that there's a way I can reach out to her, talk to her in private, but boy, from all of my other experiences, they all prefer playing victims
… > "imitation is the highest form of flattery"
That doesn't work for me, I feel like as if it's one of the biggest bs ever mainly because this sort of stuff makes me feel like as if I am being replaced. I wish there were some support communities for people who have to deal w skinwalkers.>
I've personally found feeling sorry for them is the best method to guard yourself from the emotional strain and sense of confusion situations like this evoke. These characteristics from my experience are very ingrained, and a lot of them aren't fully aware/don't have a sense of normalcy like you or I do. Although keep in mind how you're feeling is completely natural. You have a right to feel the way you do and what I'm saying doesn't excuse the behaviour, only explain it. Sorry for the unnecessarily long post.
Yeah, I understand. Thanks a lot, really appreciate your respond. I really wish people understood that rather than copycatting someone, they should realize we all are speacial in our own way.>>565224
I remember I had to deal with autistic MtF who got brainwashed into being a trans and it reached a point where he would copypaste my messages to other places to pretend to be ''like me''. I am glad I ran away from that friend group. Many women whom I met had experiences with trans people copying them…
This person could be pretty malicious, this is a really benign example I hope I haven't made you feel weird or anything. I found it pretty amazing that it actually happened because I don't have a personal understanding of this stuff. Kind of like how you think it's crazy that I noticed. It's cool hearing confirmation I'm not insane actually, sometimes a culmination of little things like this have that effect. Thanks anon.>>565225
Yeah, sorry anon. I'm just telling you what helped me get through the situation. It's a massive cop out but it gives me solace in a situation you can't control. I wish I could be more help because it's hard to reach out to people irl and discuss things like this. I also wish people would realise there's value in their individuality too, but I think it goes so far as some don't have a grasp on that concept. I'm here for wishful thinking though, I think it's good to have hope. My parents didn't really experience stuff like this when they were younger. I'm starting to think part of why it's so hard there's more and more people exhibiting these symptoms nowadays. I'm even noticing a difference in personal experience from like 15 years ago to now. Idk what's promoting the problem but I've run into a fair few recently/hear stories from friends. I'm pretty accepting if you're self aware but a lot don't seem to be unfortunately. In fact the anons posting here have self awareness that I didn't think was possible until having this conversation from my outside perspective.>>565229
Second this. The people you want to watch our for incarnate is Emalee from the littlefawnxo thread. >>>/w/27316
It's weird I know Katie through mutuals. I watched her disappear on and off only to find her thread here and realise why.
A complete OT but I really miss Kittimei
. She was a really inspiring girl and I loved her Tumblr blogs, even though I found out about her from lolcow. She seems like a very nice person who would be a good rolemodel for girls. I can relate to her in a bunch of things, but oh well. Hopefully one day she will come back and stop feeling scared of showing herself, even though I fully understand how she feels. Makes me wish there was a way to 'block' a person IRL so they wouldn't stalk you or anything.
> My parents didn't really experience stuff like this when they were younger. I'm starting to think part of why it's so hard there's more and more people exhibiting these symptoms nowadays.
I agree on that.
I used to admire her on Instagram so I can totally see what you mean by inspiring. She does seem like a genuinely nice girl, especially reading how she handled the stalking. I remember her making one one her friends a gorgeous sundress for her birthday a few years bacm when she opened one of her shops. Since then I've thought very highly of her for someone who's only observed her from afar. I hope she overcomes the stalking and comes back too, I enjoyed her creativity.
I had a thought in the shower and I think it partially might be how materialistic/surface level society has become. Social media media definitely has a big part to play in all this too imo.
I need to go to sleep haha
Anon-chan, you were… So sorry that you had to go through this. I hope you are not letting toxic
people in your life anymore. Fuck all the skinwalkerfags
You poor soul. Hearing the story of your first love got me feeling a little depressed. Something about how helpless you must have felt with a boyfriend who can't conceptualise your sacrifices or feelings. That, in combination with being tethered to him so strongly because firstlove.jpg.
Ngl hearing he trooned out and you blocked him was both the best and most predictable part of the story. Satisfying ending. 10/10 resolution.
I'm so sorry anon, what happened you you was awful. He took advantage of all that love that you had to give, nobody ever has the right to do that to you.
Well done on getting away. Unfortunately so many of us meet horrible men in our lives but hopefully it helps us to recognise the red flags that we were too trusting to see the first time around.
You were his mother, a housekeeper, a full time student and a survivor all at the same time as struggling with mental health issues, you're a very strong human.
Aww, you're both so sweet.
My younger brother is also autistic and has been abusive
towards me since we were kids. So I think part of it was because I was so desperate to get away from home and have a ~normal~ life.
But I'm 28 now and about to move in with a person who treats me right. Whereas my ex still lives at home afaik. Last time I heard from him he had started daydrinking and all his parents did to help was gifting him a kitten. Boy BYE.
Almost forgot. The week after we broke up I still visited him because that was the only way he'd attend his older brothers wedding.
Still makes me laugh that I show up in every.single.photo his mum took that day. Haunting them forever :)))
Fuck yeah! It's so nice to hear you're doing so well, I hope someone who is still in the darkness of a horrible relationship sees it can reminds them they can make it out to the other side too
I wish you all the happiness in your new home
I'm just trying to figure out something, I think one of my (male) friends is getting on with BPD. I'm asking because people say BPD is more common in female and in men doesn't exist, but these symptoms just don't get me right
>Always other's fault. Never his. If he did something bad it's because is "coping" with his depression or other people made him do it.
>Texting exes to make sure they're there for him and when they have some problems (you know, their lives), getting into minor fits of "Waa she's ignoring me/she's the worst because she's textingme only when she's free"
>Binge eating, overseeking affection everywhere but calling sluts girls who are his friends when they hug boys that they're not their bfs
>Being attracted only to younger girls. 8 year gaps in 20's.
>Vomiting any kind of insults to people out of the fucking blue, only for apologize two days later saying "I missed you guys so much… that was my escape to a stressful situation"
>When putting boundaries on shared topics, screaming that you're insensitive because you don't wanna talk "more" and so ignoring his opinion
>"I feel unloved, unworthy, no one should come close to me, I'm nothing" when there are people who could die for him, because when he's sane and has some lucid moments, is the most caring,, funny and sweet guy.
I'm really sorry to hear you're going through that anon. I don't think you should feel bad, the tantrums and habits of low functioning autistic kids are definitely difficult to handle, and you're trying your best I'm sure.
Though I have to say I really dislike people like your sister… why have three children when the first one already requires a lot of attention and care?
>>566201>He finds humor on being cruel to animals and he know how to be sneaky about it.
now that is alarming behaviour.
much respect to you for trying to do something about it, that must be exhausting af. I hope his parents take this as serious as you do.
Being around somebody with a mental illness is fucking draining, and there's a honestly decent chance your friend knows exactly what she's doing and she's doing it because she feels superior.
It's not her fault, her illness is pushing her to do this but that doesn't mean you have to put up with it.
ew, a friend of me is like that too. She’s a sweet person aside from that and her tendency to gatekeeping tho.
It’s super annoying and I always tell her to stfu about it and move on about her self esteem issues, she’s fine. and then she moves on, just have to remind her everytime when she pulls that shit.
your friend sounds more like >>566731
could be the case.
One of the defining characteristics of bpd is unstable interpersonal relationships(along with attention seeking /manipulative behavior, anger issues, splitting etc), it’s not so far fetched that anons here and people elsewhere have genuinely been burned by a bpdfag.
When someone vents their frustrations about a narcissist or some other cluster b pd, the response isn’t usually under the assumption that it’s solely projection and unfounded.
I’ve only known a few bpdfags who are legitimately diagnosed and never had any issues with them(but I wasn’t close friends with any ). It really depends on how severe it is and how disorder presents really varies from person to person.
Anon-chans, am I dealing with BPD-chan or something else? Person I know is doing some weird mind-games that I still cannot understand.
- Admittedly started copycatting me to a point she even tried to act like me on social medias, I think she gave up on it and is only trying to take over my personality and style IRL;
- The weird thing about it that at first she was acting totally okay, like a normal human being, was all fawning over me, acting energetic n positive whatsoever, but then something I guess clicked in her brain… She started admittedly copycatting me on internet, later then moved to irl by trying to dress the way I do and is making the quotes I made during previous meet ups and she started trying to act overdramatic for attention (with terrible acting). I never acted rude towards her nor had beef with her, so I am very much confused.
- Always knows when I show up, so she always hides in her room (while being a mid20s adult) and as far as I get it, it's done on purpose because It keeps happening and her parents always have to make up excuses for her as to why 'she's not there', that I feel bad for them. If she does show up, thing I mentioned earlier starts happening: whole mood changes because she starts pretending to be sad because she is not the center of attention;
- Also seems to be talking shit about me to mutuals of her and my s/o because some of them stopped talking to me after VCing with her once;
Other things i'd like to mention:
- Her bf literally ran away from her with all his things because he said he got 'tired of trying to make her happy but she'd always keep being whiny'
- She never wanted to work a day in her life because she is a proud 'trad-chan'. Keeps whining that she's working, in less than a month of working she ended up having a beef with someone;
- She never seems to care about her lonely mother unless she needs some pitful attention which also breaks my heart.
- Also does other rude things such as: If she decides to cancel coming over to someone or with someone, she doesn't inform them at all but just ghosts them. It's either a person gets ghosted either her own big brother calls to ghosted person, telling she won't come.
- Was and is a spoiled child, visibly loved more than her older brother;
- Also admits that she is an attention-seeker who can't stand being without people.
- Has no manners at all.. Maybe I am being a Karen here but I was raised in a huge city.
Really confused on whatever is wrong with her. She DOES visits a therapist, family said she has depression.
Sounds like she's just annoying and toxic
If she managed to mess up your relationship with your friends, she's probably trying to slowly do the same with your family.
I think you'd be better off cutting her off, people like that are draining.
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Mentally ill men are always worse than female counterpart
he just bought an AR-15 (the favorite gun of modern school shooters)and i'm basically shitting myself. like there's nothing i can do but wait until he loses it or something.
this fucking post lmfao. "b-but i didn't notice one of my best friends was a narcissist psycho I swear!!!"
I don't think the poster still checks this thread but still: instead of bitching here about your shitty friend I hope you reached out for your other friend who had to take all that shithead's rage on her own and apologized to her. Like in the first place, why would you even put up with such a shitty person for as long as 10 years if he was just some friend to you? You don't need any knowledge about narcs or personality disorders to realize all you've listed isn't passable. Or could it be your friend was eating most of the narc abuse and you thought you could just pretend nothing was happening and she would suck it up forever without complaining.
This post reeks of pickme abuse enabler who thought she was smarter than the other bitch and now regrets being left to her own devices with her Nigel.
Big relate. I find some autist traits are actually endearing/interesting. But hanging around those
types of autists is like sitting through a shitty romcom that never ends. I can barely contain the cringe/second hand embarrassment I get from the lack of self awareness. I want to help but there's honestly no saving certain situations.
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male autists are annoying and creepy
theyre even creepy and ugly in appearance if it's bad enough, why the fuck are all of them so tall and horrifying to look at
Came to say exactly this.
I slowly froze out those people who were like this, and I've never felt better.
Anons, tell me, am I painting with too big a brush here about people with depression?
In my adult life, I can count past one hand the number of friends with depression diagnoses who have fucked me over by not following through, or letting me/someone I love down. Some examples:
- Back in college, my student org had to organize and manage an event. Depressed Person A volunteers to man one booth, we happily accept the help. The evening comes and she won't answer our calls or texts asking where she is, so I'm forced to do double-duty and switch between my actual assignment and manning said booth. After the event I congratulate the org group chat on a job well done, and only then does A apologize and explain she was busy… packing for a trip.
- Still Depressed Person A: she and a mutual friend have a side business selling handmade accessories. They set up their table at a local fair, then A texts another friend asking him to keep her seat warm for just an hour while she runs an errand. He goes there and mans the table with the other friend, then after an hour asks A when she's coming back. She never replies, and he ends up having to keep their mutual friend company for the entire day. I learned about this… from A herself, who nonchalantly told me she hasn't apologized, and even said, "In my defense, I lugged all the stuff there."
- I needed to watch a specific local film for a work thing, and asked one of my group chats if they had a file of it (it was out of cinemas, and wasn't popular enough to be found on torrent sites). Depressed Person B says she does and can send it to me by the weekend. I profusely thank her. Weekend comes and B stops going online and my reminders are left unread. I end up getting the film somewhere else and we never speak of it again.
- I used to have brightly colored hair. A friend asked if she could pay me to come to her house and dye hers. I could handle the coloring part, but wasn't too experienced with the bleaching part, so I asked Depressed Person C, a fellow brightly-colored hair person, to help me out for 50% of the profits. She said yes, and we set a time and date for my friend's appointment. The day came, and I texted C to remind her we had to be at my friend's house in the afternoon. She replied a couple of hours later to tell me she had gone back to her home city HOURS AWAY and that the appointment had slipped her mind. I ended up having to do everything myself.
All of the above people repeated this behavior throughout our adult life; these are just their first/second offenses. Do they just enjoy LARPing as effective people for the length of one conversation? Is it the rush of knowing they have my attention and worry? How do these people expect anyone to continue liking them?? Like, I sincerely hope they get better, but I'm sick of putting my own shit on the line just for them to feel like they're not losing a friend.
Pretty much any "mental disorder" that involves an inflated sense of self-importance and the inability to empathize with the people around you is a "mental disorder" I cannot deal with.>>570210>>570207
HPD isn't even a diagnosis anymore. The DSM removed it years ago lmao.
Honestly when you're not their imprinted person and just a regular friend or acquaintance BPDfags are quite bearable, they just go missing when they are going nuts and then come back like nothing happens lol.
And then you watch their shenanigans from like the VIP section.
I can hardly fucking stand autists anymore. Even the high functioning ones have such low emotional intelligence, it's hard to maintain a friendship with them. I have my own issues with periods of self loathing and low self esteem, and having to deal with autistic friends being completely callous when I'm trying to reach out for help and communicate to them that I'm not in the mood for their bullshit drives me insane.
I fucking hate online propagagnda about "be nice and listen to autistic people! Let them tell you about their special interests and guide them if they can't understand how to socialize!" Fuck that shit. I'm looking for a friendship, not a child to babysit. I had an autistic irl friend who would come to my house just to ramble about her homestuck/undertale fanfic, without so much as asking me about my day, and only fucking off when I told her I had homework because I wasn't a neet like her. I don't see why other people should be expected to baby autists when they're actively harming other people's mental health from their own social ineptitude.
Exactly. It's a very weird combination of superiority/victim
complex. "I'm too sick and frail to make any real accomplishments in life, but hey, at least I'm not a fatass." Their defense is "I'm doing my best" when everyone can see that they pour 100% of their already limited energy into furthering their disorder. They have my sympathy as I know personally how mentally taxing it is, but they're so damn annoying. Very selfish too.
oh gotcha. my bad, i thought you meant it was pointless to differentiate between untreated/treated illnesses when posting here. i only do it so recovered bitches like me don't feel bad reading these posts lol
i think the point is that there are specific disorders that people can't tolerate, probably because they have experience dealing with them. same with recovered/treated individuals, for example some people will not associate with someone with NPD, treated or not