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oh boy she's starting a podcast
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It's a bit Kris Jenner-esque
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Naomi just announced that she became a mother at 50.
Way to old for this imo>>809849
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I just googled her and jesus christ did she go overboard with the plastic surgeries
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she dated Big Sean
Shortly before that she tried setting up a TV show on russian national channel (which is heavily censored by govt), it flopped so she decided to run for politics.
Tbh I feel bad for her. Her ex husband was beating the shit out of her, she divorced him n got pregnant from her bodyguard kek
Not milk tbh. It's Russia after all. It was also mentioned in "closeted celebs" thread with a lot of details about tatu and how they r now etc.
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yeah, and they broke up and got together a bunch of times too. they def caught feelings but it never worked out probably because both of them are hoes. but yeah big sean was a big deal to her.
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why is she kissing da baby?
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Enty of Crazy Days and Nights started that rumor. Enty hates both Carrey and Grande if you look at his history of blinds about them (individually as well), he's done multiple blinds about them including extremely far fetched ones involving cults which were featured in earlier celebricows threads and sound like stan fiction. I think the worst they could've done was fuck a few times, but I can't picture an ongoing affair. That rumors been so blown out of proportion
I'll take some blind someone submitted to deuxmoi saying they probably didn't fuck or it wasn't ongoing over entys shit any day, I think other sites took the rumor and ran with it for clicks
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>>809868>With her tan and yu yu
the kardashians-jenners are just cockhungry and love BBC, no doubt
Plus, this is a tinfoil, but I think they wanted to normalize interracial couples (which is of course, a good thing, they just come off as people who want to be interracial themselves)>>809773>Jim Carrey
Well…https://www.kissottawa.com/2019/07/31/ariana-grande-works-with-jim-carrey-on-show-kidding/>Ariana have been a forever-Jim fan. The two originally met in 2015 and her AIM screenname used to be, jimcarreyfan42.
Your comments regarding the kardashians is pretty disgusting, I just think they wanted to market themselves better to the black community
As a black woman I'll say that black males have very low standard's when it comes to idolizing non-black women
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Yeah, for sure. She’s got a Truman Show tattoo as well.
ex was possibly involved with Scientology
or at least the other ex boyfriend of the girl was
Interesting read, I'm still not sure what to believe tbhhttps://tonyortega.org/category/scientology/cathriona-white/
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Posting these here too in case someone missed themhttps://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/ariana-grande-dalton-gomez-are-officially-married/https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/pictures/ariana-grande-and-dalton-gomezs-relationship-timeline-photos/https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/pictures/ariana-grandes-dating-history-a-timeline-of-her-exes-and-flings/https://www.elle.com/culture/music/a34461751/ariana-grande-positions-lyrics-meaning-dalton-gomez/https://pagesix.com/article/who-is-dalton-gomez-ariana-grande/
Also this: what Ariana sees in Daltonhttps://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/inside-ariana-grande-and-dalton-gomezs-serious-relationship/
>“Ariana sees something different in Dalton that she has never seen before in guys she has previously dated.”>“He is the type of guy she has been looking for,” continues the source. “He’s very protective of her, will go out of his way for her and does little things that are chivalrous. Dalton will go above and beyond to meet her needs.”>A bonus: She also admires his work ethic and Hispanic background, adds the source, and the fact that he “shares similar values that she and her family have.”Oof>Before the coronavirus pandemic, “Ariana was looking for a home outside of Los Angeles to be her getaway house, and her team found Dalton to help,” explains the source. “When she saw him, she immediately thought he was cute and very good-looking, and she asked her team to set up an in-person meeting with him. Ariana fell very hard for Dalton shortly after they met.”
So she was the one to pursue him huh
At least he looks like a better person than his past exes (Mac Miller looking like a total fuckboy)
Bonus, what she likes in a guy:https://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/ariana-grande-looks-for-these-qualities-in-her-romantic-pursuits/
>“Ariana likes guys who are funny but who also need to be taken care of,” a source says of Grande, 26, in the new issue of Us Weekly. “She’s a nurturer and likes to be needed.”
Mommy kink??? I thought she wanted to be the one to be taken care of. Well that explains why she attracted all those degenerates
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She also dated Mikey Foster, from Social House (they appear in the Boyfriend song… probably about their relationship? since she makes a lot of songs about her relationships)
honestly it's probably not mommy kink and more just chronic helper syndrome
she's a trainwreck herself so how should she be expected to help and nurture another trainwreck
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I guess she has some skewed self esteem going on. Typical of narcs tbh
She isn't the most beautiful woman on the planet (big oof
all those plastic surgeries) but she's pretty desirable, if I was her I would also only date the best of the best. At least Dalton looks normal and pretty decent.
(I didn't know she had a pokemon tattoo btw)>>809964
If Ariana was the one to pursue him, uh…
Idk, my tinfoil is that he'll see her as a trophy wife and then get bored and tired of her once her mento illness comes out and the honeymoon phase is over. He's too normie. I'm sure she was also the one to push for marriage- maybe she fell for the "marrying before 30" meme as she was once engaged and still pretty hurt from all her exes, maybe.
>>809964>>A bonus: She also admires his work ethic and Hispanic background
Hispanic fishing now? she has a hispanic sounding name>>809976
they look like brothers wtf
Why do they look like siblings….. lol she literally fell for the male version of herself.
Honestly kinda iconic.
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>>809970>that was the ugliest guy she dated
surely you forgot about him
I mean she likely she cheated on Kanye with her bodyguard who was a white guy, but either way my point is more regarding black men then the Kardashians, a successful black male figure will literally risk at all for mediocre non-black woman
Their the weakest links in the black community
Yes I know, I'm not stupid.
Grande means big in spanish, and I've met a few Arianas before (I live in Mexico).
He looks like he has multiple STDs, but so does>>809967
YES, I KNOW SHE'S ITALIAN
I'm just saying she looks like she's hispanic fishing
Specially with her "Dalton is hispanic" comment
Learn to read please
I think the Kardashians are shitty, but to me black men letting themselves get manipulated by seemingly every non-black women is the real issue, so I don't have any sympathy for them
They are again the weakest links
either way you saying because you met mexican girls named Ariana that means something? As if you cant find a race of any woman with that name in america lmao>>810013
you're gonna get banned girl stop saying that wtf lol
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their child someone made from the faceapp thread kek
Honestly the discussion of colorism and racism by black male celebs should be discussed since this is a celebcow thread, these men outright refuse to date women who aren't 3-4 shades lighter then them or simply won't even consider being with any black women
Like the actor of M'Baku from Black Panther talked about Black women made him better about his body, but dated mostly Asian women
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For anyone still following the Marilyn Hamson circus, The Cut have published Ashley Walters complaint for damages document. It makes for (some) interesting reading, at least in specifics we haven’t yet heard through the grapevine. https://www.thecut.com/2021/05/marilyn-mansons-former-assistant-files-sex-assault-lawsuit.html
Ay homies, stop derailing dis shiii! This ain’t no lipstick alley, my niggas
But in all seriousness, stop derailing because not everyone gives a fuck. We just wanna talk about cows and shit.(racebait)
Is it an uptick or is it just you hear about their reaction more these days?
You'd have to be a total doormat to not have an opinion on people making money off dramatising your life without any consideration for how it'll affect the real living people involved.
People are dumb enough to take fictional characters literally, so it's not unreasonable to be annoyed if the dramatisation is unflattering in a way that will sway public opinion.
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What the actual fuck nicki? Does she want to kill her career or what
Like who the fuck releases a mugshot of yourself as a criminal but also something that proves your plastic surgeries
Idk this whole "I made a girl bleed" is not sitting well with me. Even if I like her music, this is over the top, like when Cardi B (hate her) revealed he drugged and stole from men (whatever you say, it doesn't sit well with me)
That mugshot has been around for years, why would it kill her career especially with how popular she is and how long she's been a rapper. Idk why you think a mugshot would end her career
. Even Megan has her mugshot on the internet
nta, but it's one thing to have a mugshot and a whole other thing to write that the crime you did was 'inspiring' and something that you look back fondly while your victim
spent days in a hospital
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her husband also spent time for manslaughter. jesus
I don't think I was being sarcastic, but it still makes me angry how retarded people can be so long as they don't recognize that their idols are normal, pathetic, or bad people, depending on the context. Kurt was a slave to his medium and his death dealt the death blow to the genre he championed. Curtney, on the other hand, came along at the wrong time, even though he won in the end. In other words, a gold digger who won the lottery in form of royalties from his dead husband. >>810361
As I mentioned above, I know them but I haven't heard their work properly. Although in her case, all the nirdrama she got herself into devoured her image and career at a certain point. Although she doesn't help herself either.
she's full of shit. if she had indeed used a weapon to make someone else bleed, she wouldn't have been charged with intent
to use a weapon. she would've been charged with aggravated assault or assault with a weapon. it's obvious that she's embellishing the story.
Why the hell would anyone make a show about a short-lived marriage between two celebrities that haven't been relevant in 20 years? They had a sex tape, so the hell has every other narc couple in Hollywood. Is it because of The Dirt movie on Netflix?>>810251>>810262
Neither Tommy Lee nor Pamela Anderson are involved in the show's production in any capacity, so I doubt they gave their permission. It's just Seth Rogan, James Franco, and all the other douchebags in their circle looking to exploit a couple of washed up celebrities no one would ever defend.
I read The Dirt back in highschool, and I wholeheartedly believe Tommy abused Pam. Keep in mind that this show is supposed to be a comedy. A comedy about two real human beings in an abusive
relationship who seem to have had no say in whether the show was made. Yikes.
>>810361>she has sprinkles of feminism/female trauma songs in there
It's all an act, she victim
-blames other women.
She really is trying her best to stay relevant.
I guess all her youtube doco money has dried up and she needs publicity money for more crack
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Her Wikipedia page has already been they/them'd
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congrats to this anon who called it less than a month ago - except it’s not for an album, it’s for a shitty podcast kek
What could we expect from her, lmao? >>810564
Bitch, bitch, bitch, your husbando shot himself in the head because the drugs fried his brain. No wonder he was so erratic at the "unplugged". The truth hurts, and grunge is dead.
Back to Twitter faggot>>810429>>810535>>810609
Fucking embarrassing. Pre-wall crisis of a child star is always such a cruel thing lmaooo
Can you imagine every b-list celebrity claiming to be agender, non-binary, demi-sexual all a couple months apart of each other
Honestly think Miley will be next to "come out" as non-binary
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Why stop there? The new way to get ahead will be coming up with the craziest new identity.
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yeah, but she never went as far as to become a theyby
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Trees are a giver of life, nonny
The MtF threads already had a hearty kek at this dude, there were even editing wars on Wikipedia over his article, which led to a global rule that only "generally accepted and used" pronouns are allowed. One anon even made a vocaroo about this brave new world language: https://vocaroo.com/embed/1dVKu4OmovJK
Hey, I was just letting the thread know that Mx. Lovato is now a theyboss. If you perceive that to be an attack then maybe you have some internalised enbyphobia you need to work on, nonny
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She’s 5’0 lmao [spoiler]and no this picture isn’t photoshopped[/ spoiler]
nta but to be fair, the post she replied to reads like someone had a stroke while writing it> make sure likes
should be "men she likes"
came here for this kek >>810750
god why. haven't heard from his guy in ages… Any other nonnies remember dance academy?
How is Cardi robbing men who were buying prostitutes NOT based? These men would likely turn a blind eye to human trafficking if it could get their dick wet, they're lucky she didn't pull a gun on them>>810535
Am I the only one who is getting the feeling that she'll be dead within the next 3 years? She's on a downward spiral clearly trying to get the approval of some group before she has no fans left and everyone is laughing at her. The way things are looking, it's just going to get worse. Is a sex tape or OF next? The non-binary shit may work for like 5 seconds but Sam Smith did the same thing and no one is talking about him.
You'd think she'd come out as demisexual kek>>810725
Why would she want to sound like Hailey Williams? Hailey sounds like a twelve year old boy, though I guess for Demi that would be an improvement.>>810747
Miley already lies about being pansexual or whatever so it's not much of a stretch. It looks like the troon bug is hitting c-list former child stars who are (or have claimed to be) non-straight.
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In case some of you were confused about why she's being extra retarded lately, demi has been talking to alok (picrel) and in fact he's going to be on her podcast soon.
He's moving around inside a few celeb circles so brace for more "coming outs" like Demis. I think he got to Demi via hanging out with Nikita Dragun and he's going to keep clawing his way up.
Demi is ugly, a bully, and mentally ill. If she hadn't lucked out with camp rock she'd be a wine mom on FB posting memes about how hard life is for single moms of 5.
Also she was fine with being seen as a woman when her body could be marketed, like in her confident era. But now she's fat it's all about her not ~~~connecting~~~ with being a girl suddenly kek
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>>811131>She'd have faded into obscurity by now if she didn't make a point of shoving her billion traumas in everyone's faces. It's all she has.
Incredible that 10 years ago she was already pulling that shit when she released pic related. Back then she was milking her self-harm recovery (but did she?) and posing as an inspirational figure for the kind of girls who had black and white, ~aesthetic~ depression blogs on tumblr. Even then I found it sad how some teens bought into her shallow crap.
Ugh he looks so gross. Isn’t this the same guy who victim
blames little girls regarding the trans bathroom debate?
Amazing to get information on why she's pretty much estranged from her mother. Sounds like she was abusive
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Reminds me of Lynn Ann, the extremely disturbing columbine fangirl (fanwoman?) obsessed with Eric Harris and photoshopping herself into a teenager despite being ~40 years old. She had a thread on KF iirc.
Spoiler bc off-topic and creepy
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here's the actual statement, if anyone wants to read it.
Unpopular opinion I guess but he’s right and this is objectively not what “victim
blaming” is by any definition
…. he is victim
blaming though? he's literally implying that little girls aren't victims
of being assaulted because "they can be kinky"
kek I might actually listen to this podcast episode just to see the circus show of an attention whore like Demi and this pedo delusional narcissist ranting as he always does (about transphobia, colonialism, etc).
You know the majority of the podcast is going to be him saying total drivel, mostly misogynistic comments towards "cis girls" and Demi will just be nodding along and affirming him like a delusional "handmaidxn" that she is. As if she wasn't a woman like two days ago kek. Or if she looks him up, does actual research on this dude, and maybe somehow unintentionally plants a seed of critical thought before the podcast then she'll be sitting there with a shit eating grin
while he shows her how insane genderspecial nonsense truly is and how degenerate he and the majority of them are. Welcome to the community Demi, meet your new furfag porn addicted trans friends! Nevertheless she has to let him mansplain and bash women without interruption or else someone on twitter will point out how she talked more than he did and how oppressive that is or smth.>>811704
He's not 'right' on this point though, are you kidding me? Even if underaged girls could technically having such thoughts (most if not all of it due to porn manipulating your sexuality from childhood) why the fuck is he bringing it up as a grown adult man? Better yet, why does he speak on behalf of little girls with such certainty especially including making them seem more mature then they actually are and advocating for that "kinky" portrayal in fiction?
Here's why–he just wants to lower the protections surrounding girls. It's completely deliberate, look how he slaps some race descriptors and other social justice buzzwords that will catch a twitter SJW's eye. He makes claims like how sexualizing children in media is "white Christian supremacist, right-wing rhetoric around trans bodies". This is a tactic deliberately done to appeal to a huge crowd on twitter who based on the buzzwords will think they're on the same side, will also ally or support him, and not stop to think that maybe this guy is using buzzwords to gain supporters and disguise how this is just an appeal to pro-child-sexualization.
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A lot of women (especially the boho/free spirit thots) agree with him though. Picrel part of a IG lecture around when Cuties aired on Netflix.
I can’t understand how someone could read that and sincerely get that from it. I don’t even believe you genuinely think that. >>811724
That’s literally the exact opposite of what he’s saying. The constant media portrayal, and the societal expectations it informs, of little girls as perfect victims
is part of what leads to victim
blaming and their abuse being dismissed as real life is obviously not like that and most girls who suffer abuse will fail to live up to those narratives. This “failure” is then blamed for why the abuse occurred. The huge disconnect between the societal portrayal of an abuse victim
and what a victim
of abuse actually looks like, especially for little girls, helps no one. It makes it harder for girls to even identify their own abuse as they blame themselves and leads to others dismissing their abuse. These one dimensional ideas people have about girls and the way abuse is portrayed isn’t reflective of most people’s reality and doesn’t lead to any meaningful protection of little girls, criticising it doesn’t threaten to lower their protection. It’s a harmful perception both in regards to how they perceive themselves and how others perceive them.
he's saying that little girls aren't "perfect victims
" because they can be kinky and deviant. first of all, the idea of "perfect victim
" is fucking stupid. but even if little girls who get assaulted in bathrooms aren't "perfect victims
" are they not victims
? and if he's not implying that little girls aren't victims
because they're "kinky and deviant" then what exactly is he implying? please explain
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Tbf she does mention boys sexuality. Picrel the entire diatribe. This boho spiritual sexuality was tried in Germany in the 60s and it created issues in children and abuse.
The boho nudist aesthetic is in now though, so these """empowering""" ideas are espoused by normie women too.
This is fucking mental. It is bizarre to be trying to normalise adults that clearly aren't teenagers having relationships with teenagers because they can biologically have children. That's so fucking retarded. Maybe if older men would back off the younger generation and stop being such perverted degenerates they wouldn't all suffer at such a young age vying for girls their ages attention yet all these old fucks are posturing and cock blocking.
Society needs to stop grooming kids and teenagers. Can everyone just back the fuck off girls and our puberty and our bodies and get a fucking life.
Do you not know what the “perfect victim
” trope is or something? It’s not something he’s just saying or inventing, the idea that being sexual or deviant means that girls are “asking for it” and therefore not true victims
is extremely pervasive and that’s what he’s criticising. He’s criticising the conflation of moral purity and victimhood. I don’t get what’s confusing or needs explaining.
>>811772>he's criticizing the idea that being sexual or deviant means that girls are "asking for it" and therefor not true victims
…. can you fucking read? that isn't what he's saying at all. he's saying all of this in relation to bathroom assaults. he's saying that the assaulters are the "scapegoats". a scapegoat means someone who isn't actually responsible (or at least not fully responsible) taking all the blame. then he goes on to say that "little girls are kinky and deviant". thus implying that the little girls getting assaulted are at least partially responsible by being "kinky".
then he goes onto say that the little girl masturbating in the exorcist is empowering. dude is a pervert through an through.
He’s not saying people actual committing assault are scape goats he’s making a point about the way the media constantly cycles through some group to scapegoat and fear monger about which is true. He’s saying that the cartoonish portrayal of assault in the media of some morally abhorrent evil perpetrator and a morally pure perfect victim
is harmful as in real life victims
are complicated and in reality victimisation can, and usually does, come people from people who are close to us, who we love, who are not cartoonish villains. Abuse usually isn’t some violent attack by a stranger in a bathroom or dark alleyway but that’s how it’s always portrayed. This idea makes it hard for people to hold abusers accountable, because they are unable to view them as abusers, and also leads to victim
blaming, because they are unable to view them as real victims
>then he goes onto say that the little girl masturbating in the exorcist is empowering.
No, he doesn’t. Either you can’t read or you think in saying it could be a metaphor for exploring your sexuality that’s what he meant but exploring your sexuality is not necessarily a positive or empowering thing, often it’s not bc of the religious shame surrounding sex/masturbation.
Anyway not going back and forth anymore bc it’s not relevant to the thread. Imo to most people it’s obvious what he was saying.
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Jesus fucking christ, way to jump through hoops trying to justify the logic of this narcissistic moid. I guess I get responding to the first anons that responded but just give it up, you're wrong. Why are you even bothering to reply? Your grammar is European/UK english so I'm going to assume you're not Alok bc he's in NYC. What do you have to gain out of defending this cow? Are you a troon/moid? Genuinely curious.
I seriously can't believe that Demi Lovato is associating herself loosely with these people kek, picrel for cringe
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>>811810>>"Meredith[middle one]… you look cis."
The absolute state of these people, my god
>>811810>"…people like me have to struggle in order to have romance, companionship and sensuality in our loves."
What kind of bullshit is this? EVERYONE struggles with these feelings. You aren't special because you purposely make yourself look conventually unattractive then cry because people aren't attracted to you. Everyone is allowed to have their preference, and sometimes it's not you.
God that logic makes me so angry. It's like incel logic where they feel entitled to relationships/sex just for existing.
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Where are her wedding pics?
lol this bitch is so crazy i remember when she would spend hours every day harassing family members of the victims
so gross but so milky
Blame her for making the two converge. It's her decision to bring him on the show. If he's creeping into other celeb circles then he's relevant here as well imo.
So any anons wanna place bets on what's Demi's next publicity stunt? I'm leaning towards massive trans activism for a bit and then afterwards potentially one or more of these:
- Onlyfans, which she definitely markets as some sort of NB/qweer exploration thing
- Playing up Latin heritage and revamping her career to revolve around it (probably her best bet)
- Drug relapse and going back to rehab for the 40th time
- Picking fights with young tiktok stars to stay relevant (see: Trisha Paytas)
- Illness diagnosis which she milks tf out of like Selena with her kidney transplant
I'm gonna say it.
Lana Peaked with Born to Die and only half the songs were good. Idk how she constantly chooses her worst songs as official album release material, all her good songs are unofficial.
Lana, what the fuck is this?
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Imagine the outrage if they had a white woman play Pocahontas or Rosa Parks, but this is ok. I fucking hate woke culture.
Legit sometimes feel like this is all some weird 4D chess psyop to make people more racist.
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Yes this is real and it's been happening for a while, they also made the little Mermaid black for the life action movie that is coming up even tho she is a redhead in the original movie and the fairytale is danish.
I know that Hollywood producers do not actually give a shit about black representation in movies and are only doing this to generate more revenue and woke-points, but I really feel that this "blackwashing" or whatever you want to call this will just make people more racist in the end.
On one hand I understand skin color doesn't matter as long as the actress does a good job and that it's not like they could find a white actress that looks 100% exactly like Anne Boleyn anyway. But on the other hand… why? It's still a historical figure, why would you change her race?
There are plenty of notable black people in history, so why won't Hollywood make movies about them instead of awkwardly shoehorning POC
actors into european history?
I honestly think you might be right about this being some weird psyop to divide people even further.
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This isn't only stupid due to the obvious innacuracy but it's a way for movie execs to represent a life that has already been extensively
covered not only in other movies but media in general. There are a million untold stories of actual black women in the Tudor era which would be far more fresh and interesting to use as story fodder, but no, they're using one that's already been done to death (no pun intended).
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Do you think people would have an issue with picrel?
(not a real movie)
The original fairytale is danish, there's no black people in Denmark. I always thought making the disney princesses black was dumb because almost all the tales are based on old european fairytales.
It's just pandering and I really would like to know if most black people feel "represented" by this or if they don't find it kind of insulting that rich white men in Hollywood are using them as tokens to make more money from the woke left.
Anon a very small minority of exotic foreign servants and advisors, doesn't mean there were a "million" untold stories of black people in fucking Tudor era England
That's also fucking dumb
You're really stretching for an excuse to infight, huh? The thousands
of blacks that were in England could still be used for inspiration, but beyond that I was referring to individuals not only in England but the many historical figures that could be explored during the 15th/16th century in general. The point is that it would be nice to see more real black history represented on the big screen rather than shoehorning a black woman into a white woman's life.
I don't mind a black Little Mermaid in a Disney movie either, but I understand why it's a bit difficult. While I doubt many people nowadays associate mermaids with any specific culture or feel protective of the story as a part of their culture, it still is Danish in origin. If there's no issue with racebending that, there should be no issue with having Asian stories portrayed by non-Asians, African stories by non-Africans, etc. Clearly that would spark outrage though.
I mean, I think it's dumb to care too much about characters races in general, but the same rules should apply to everyone. Any culture should be able to adapt stories from any other culture imo.
They also changed the story itself, anon. They added a talking lobster and gave her a happy ending instead of her turning into seafoam at the end.
It's basically a stock fairy tale IMO, with all sorts of variations and imaginings. No one really looks at it and thinks "Yes, this is the hallmark of Denmark", it's not the same as the original and I don't think anyone really expects it to be. It'd be the same if there were tons of adaptions of say, Anansi stories or other fairy/folk tales from African or Asian cultures. Race isn't really important, but the story and the lesson learned.
There's a there's an important point that a lot of people miss
A racially diverse population was INCREDIBLY rare up until very recently.
Races develop in particular geographic regions and environments. The actual science behind why it happens is beyond me, and I won't even begin to try explaining it due to the controversies that inevitably erupt, but this is what it is. The race we would typically identify as Black ultimately originated in Sub-Saharan Africa. The various Asian peoples originated in…well…Asia. It's the environmental pressures of their environment combined with cultural standards and the limitations of the gene pool that led to this over generations.
Additionally, travel is HARD, especially in the days where the fastest way to get from Point A to Point B is the horse or wagon. Even nomadic people tend to remain confined to a particular geographic area. Blacks only arrived in the Americas in large numbers because for the most part they were brought here as part of the slave trade. The first significant wave of Asian immigrants didn't arrive until the Gold Rush in the 1850s.
for e.g While Tolkien abhorred allegory, he was still influenced by the real world and its history, and the purported aim of his Legendarium was to create a new mythology for England with a new Prehistory, in much the way that Robert Howard intended the Hyborian Age as a "lost" period in Earth's history. In particular, the setting was strongly inspired by the Early Middle Ages following the collapse of Rome (c.5th Century) due to his love of Old English and the Anglo-Saxon poems and songs.
Geographically and culturally, Eriador is often associated with England, France, and much of the rest of North and Western Europe. Gondor is much closer to Italy and the rest of the Mediterranean coast of Europe. Near Harad seems to equate most with North Africa, (which also fits the relationship with Gondor, if one views Gondor and Harad as analogues to Rome and Carthage) with Far Harad (from which the most identifiably Black people in the setting originate) as Sub-Saharan Africa. The Easterlings are from areas roughly corresponding to parts of Eastern Europe, the Middle-East, the Russian Steppes, and Far East Asia.
Now, let's look at demographics of Post-Roman Europe. While you might see a more cosmopolitan population in major trade centers, for the most part the population was very homogeneous. There were VERY few people of other races in England during the Middle Ages, and almost all of them are known because they were so unusual. Most of these people were descendants of auxiliaries or slaves who came with the Legions, or the odd Missionary. But by and large, you simply didn't see Blacks, or Arabs, or Huns in England because they simply didn't travel there.
Likewise, the peoples most associated with Asians in Tolkien's Legendarium are the Easterlings; people as far removed from Eriador and north and western Middle-earth as the Huns were from Britain.
I think this is a consideration that, on a knee-jerk reaction, people don't seem to comprehend. There's nothing wrong with wanting to see yourself represented in fiction, but there's also reasons that people of certain races may not appear in a particular context. It would be VERY unusual to see a person of Asian descent in Eriador for the same reason you wouldn't see him in Anglo-Saxon England.
It's not inherently racist, and it's not necessarily wrong; It's simply what is.
There were of course exceptions, exotic slaves, merchants or traders but they were exceptions
Okay but what exactly would the difference be if they made, say, a heavily Disney-fied adaptation of, say, Tale of the Bamboo Cutter, starring a very white cast and a blonde Kaguya-hime, with a talking moon bunny sidekick and bullshit like that. I don't think that would be well received at all, despite the story being very well known and adapted and spoofed many many times.>>812116
So why is that important? I'd also prefer a Tolkien adaptation where the people look like I'd imagined them which is similar to what you describe, but what do I care if an adaptation is made with characters of different races? I might not prefer it personally but if there's a market for it it'll sell, and that doesn't affect me.
I've been thinking about my comment since I posted it and realised that I can actually count all her good songs on my hands. She has 8 good songs, and 6 of them are unofficial. The two good ones were on Born to Die
Her entire fanbase likes her songs but none of her albums
If they took the story's events/characters and adapted the setting and names to fit the racial/cultural change instead of like…weird yellowface like they did back in black/white films because they were too racist to cast Asian characters, I don't think anyone would really mind. It might even be interesting.
If, in an alternate world, Japan had colonized a large chunk of the world and spread its own media/culture to the point where nearly literally everyone's familiar with it instead of European people, the story would probably be in the same position as most of the Disney tales, in which case, literally no one reasonable would care about a race change because that wouldn't be minimizing or harming the dominant Japanese culture in any way.(enough racesperging)
Make little mermaid black idc she ain't real.
But is there a lack prominent WOCs in history to make movies about? How can it be "empowering" or "representation" if it's still a story about a white woman lmao what do blacks actually get from this? Let's only hyperfocus on colonisers' history only btw because black history will not sell. The pandering is so transparent and insulting to anyone who isn't a retarded zoomer.(racesperging)
NTA but>European people
Ariel is an already edtablished fictional character that people know as a pale redhead and that's what they want to see. Aren't the live action movies supposed to mimic the animated ones? That's the gist of the issue IMHO. No need to look deeper than that. Racebending isn't popular with people that don't terminally sit on tumblr/twitter.>>812140>Her entire fanbase likes her songs but none of her albums
You clearly haven't visited Lanaboards. All of her albums are universally beloved, same as unreleased tracks. Even stuff like Honeymoon or the 3 tracks from Blue Banisters.
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It's not about telling the story of the Tudors or Anne and it's not about supporting black people and giving black actresses more spotlight.
This is white men pandering to make money while also pushing their agenda.
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Every lana song is shit and is made for mediocre middle class american girls who wish they had actual issues. The only good thing to come out of her career was the pathetic arguement she had against azealia banks
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New zac efron pics. I wonder what happened before with his look, could have it been a health issue? Poor guy was trending everywhere
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>>812199>could have it been a health issue?
Plastic surgery needs time to settle nonita that's all
People like LDR's brand/aesthetic/image.
The music doesn't have to be good.
That's fair I guess. LDR sad vintage look is undeniably magnetic to some people. Though, I wonder how long it will remain popular for. Actually now that I think about it, the whole aesthetic peaked years ago and has kinda been surpassed by similar faggotry>>812185
I mean yeah of course she has some diehard fans who love all her shit but c'mon everyone knows the albums are nothing compared to her unofficial stuff
I better shut up before I catch a ban for derailing. Sorry mods, I'll knock it off
I know it's hard to believe to you guys but Lana's fans usually enjoy her music. Just cause it's shit to you, doesn't mean that everyone else thinks like this. I say that even though I have found NFR! and COCC to be forgettable listens, same with BB. Honestly, I think her music (as well as creative 'legacy') is the main draw nowadays, since her aesthetic has been shit for quite some time. She peaked with BTD, but to be honest I'm not surprised if she doesn't want to put that much emphasis on looks since everyone trashed her over being vapid. She looks like shit and suddenly the press loves NFR, even though it's not even as good as Ultraviolence (TBH she dropped her polished look back then).>>812257
Correct me if I am wrong, but isn't Disney doing a LA remake of their 90's Little Mermaid animated movie? Why should they base their Ariel on anything else than her animated version, or experiment with it? If this was an original adaptation of Little Mermaid (or a new take on the concept), I would agree with you. Otherwise it's like complaining about Emma Watson's Belle not being an groundbreaking portrayal of Beauty. AFAIR those shit movies only are being made so Disney can hold on to copyrights.
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kylie and travis scott are in an open relationship now. she seems like such a pickme, letting her man fuck other women and come crawling back into bed with her. isn't she worried about STDs? she doesn't have to settle for this mouthbreather just because he's the father of her child.
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Wow, who would've thought those two wouldn't end up in a stable relationship, free of histrionic bullshit. Shocking.
Very bold of him to cosplay elephant man at Disney btw.
Some of Lana's fans think Chemtrails is her best album. They eat up everything she puts out and especially now, since her music is getting even more personal with time.
Love Lana or hate her, she's never followed music trends and never made music for commercial success. It's true that her best music is unreleased. I find it hilarious she used the same ugly color filtered pic for each song cover.
this is really long but hopefully someone here will enjoy: why sugar when you can be an elderly rockstar’s personal assistant and literally take all his money?
not a current celeb, but this ongoing saga is fucking nuts, and it’s all taking place out in the open on facebook. no one i know cares so i’m just going to drop it here. maybe someone else will at least find it interesting. here goes lol. mike nesmith of the monkees is getting fleeced and fucked over by a bunch of crazy snapewives who all think they own him.
there are accusations of elder abuse involved as well as the sight of said snapewives battling it out on both facebook and their twitters over said old man. the guy was rather well known back in the day so to have watched this evolve is kind of bizarre, to say the least. the monkees may have been a beatles rip-off, but they were still able to pack arenas and make bank. he did some records on his own after they broke up and is actually pretty well regarded (and rich) for his songwriting and filmmaking and all kinds of shit like creating mtv. honest.
although the monkees are older than dirt, they still have a pretty active fandom, especially among a certain demographic i.e. fucking old people. however, there are a definite group of twenties and thirtysomethings mixed in there too, and right now, they’re the biggest source of the crazy.
little history, there was a BNF on tumblr and prior to that, on LJ, named naked persimmon. this person was mostly involved in writing smutty RPF about mike and the other members of the band, and she also hung out at a place online, called videoranch. VR was a space mike created online so that he could interact with fans—it was all web 1.0 shit, a glorified message board, but the people who went there regularly were all fans who wanted to hang out with mike. he would chat with fans, had a book club, held impromptu concerts and the like. him and his wife even had his own world of warcraft guild, where they played with fans. parasocial relationships for everyone!
nakedpersimmon.tumblr.com came on the scene in the early teens, i guess? in her own words she and mike were ‘friends’. there are even some very sweet videos floating around of mike singing to her and another BNF who had landed a gig working as a ‘virtual dj’ at VR (i.e. selling merch and playing music) whatever.
from all accounts, mike really liked hanging with the fans. he seems to be a lonely and perhaps autistic? to some degree? fellow. for years, this guy was going blind, had all these issues up to and including heart failure. friends and family finally convinced him that living is better than being deader than fuck and he decided to have the very many operations he was in need of. then they put their foot down again and said hey, pop, look. you have to get off the internet. go play some shows with the guys in the band who aren’t dead, come play some shows with us, you’ll be surprised, people still love you, etc. which he did and was sometimes brought to tears seeing that fans still gave a shit about him. all wholesome and sweet right?
well. some of these BNF’s, including nakedpersimmon, thought it was cool to tell mike exactly how their creative wings took flight, so to speak. i’m not exactly sure how this went down but he was basically linked to his ao3 page. as a man in his seventies, from a heavily repressive religious background, he was, from all reports, very distressed and disgusted to find out that these girls were in fact not being terribly creative as he had thought but were instead writing shitty fanfic about davy jones sucking him off which they typed one-handed while schlicking the bean. no matter that some of these guys had just fucking died, these girls needed to fap. his eldest son put his foot down again and said dad, you’ve got to get these people out of your life. so there was a massive turnover of mods and jannies at the VR, which these girls had referred to as ‘their job’. i have no doubt they were getting some sweet checks, because as it turns out, mike is a billionaire, both from his own songwriting credits, but also because his mum had invented something called liquid paper back in the day which no longer exists, but who cares? money is money and he has scads of it.
it was around the time that the RPF were being removed that another girl showed up at tumblr. melodie akers is not a big fan of the monkees, but she is a giant fan of mike’s solo stuff and also, of his money. her tumblr no longer exists but it doesn’t really matter because these days, you can see melodie at videoranch and at the videoranch facebook page. she managed to get herself into position quickly and, having taken over from the previous chicks, now lives with him at his giant ass property in northern california, drives his cars, and runs his life. this drives nakedpersimmon and her gang out of their minds, mostly because they didn’t think of it first. melodie is a fuckup who smokes too much weed and has a very solid background in eating disorders, which does not make her the best caretaker for an elderly man still in recovery from quadruple bypass surgery. she’s not malicious, just retarded. she sells mike’s time via skype and zoom calls and is making bank off of him while not noticing certain cues, like when he’s falling asleep in the middle of a meet and greet, or when he’s crying about his dead friends or when he’s just baked out of his skull and not making any sense. slowly but surely she is cutting him off. friends from way back will reach out to him only to be ignored or told to piss off. you can watch all this taking place if you choose, it’s just sad and weird, but whatever.
i wonder how many of these bizarro and frankly dollar chasing ‘personal assistants’ we’re going to see as time goes on and the more wealthy and famous geriatric boomers with families that hate their guts begin to need help around the house. take note, girls! there are tons of these guys laying around!
I like that Lana's music is more personal, but the sound… hmm, I'm not certain. I'm here for the ride, though. I love both her released and unreleased material. Both have some gems. People that only listen to her albums miss out on some wonderful stuff (obviously I mean those that are interested in Lana's music in any capacity, not those indifferent or 'haters').>I find it hilarious she used the same ugly color filtered pic for each song cover.
I know! And I used to think that the Doin' Time single cover was the fugliest thing ever. Blue Banister promos sure match that ugly selfie.
thanks haha, i know it was super long but i’m bored and on break right now, so thought i’d finally write about it and hopefully some would enjoy, w/e.
it honestly is crazy. you can watch all of it happening too, mostly on fb. it can’t support its own thread but it is a freaky celeb story!
trannies are by far the most toxic
, rapey, degenerate, pedophilic, perverse group of people today.
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one of Danny Matherson's victims
I know because Scientology is involved that he probably won't get much jail time if any but I hope something comes for this sick fuck, this is vile
She was always
a train wreck. She spent the start of her career misinterpreting Lolita as a romance, the middle part romanticising the lifestyle of an abused meth prostitute as a beautiful tragedy, and is now cleaning herself up to be not as good as the past two phases.
Never pretend she wasn't a train wreck. Just admit we all have our favourite era if the train wreck
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So the wlw community is apparently upset cause Anya Taylor-Joy(from Queen's gambit) has a boyfriend and people are shocked cause apparently she radiated so much "sapphic energy" that they literally are refusing to believe she's actually straight and that this is just the studio forcing her to present as straight
Its really fucking cringy and people are weirdly insulting her boyfriend for no reason
Another day of twitter gays giving us a bad name, great.
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I really do feel like 90% of "wlw" of "sapphic women" on twitter and tumblr aren't actually even gay, just straight girls who like aesthetic and also desperatly not wanting to be a dreaded "straight white women"
He has to beg her for food. Melodie is still anachan, so food and feeding an elderly man are low on her list of priorities.
He was drug free prior to her, but he’s been so stoned in some of the video meet and greets that the people buying are calling wellness checks. She pretends to be him on his facebook page and tells everyone to go away and leave them alone. It’s messed up.
BTD and BTD Paradise are her best. She's best when she's trying to make pop songs imo. For instance I think she did a good job with Cheryl's "Ghetto Baby" excluding the cringey name and the cringe lyrics (which are a given anyways). I wish she hadn't gone that boring Mazzy Star rip off route. If it was her actual ability to live up to the pop role then she just would have needed to stay in shape. Her lack of ability to perform live isn't a problem considering Dua Lipa also has no stage presence but all of her songs are pop.
However…her management should have gotten her a lyricist and a psychologist. At least put her through DBT therapy or something. A lot of her lyrics are not just pickme shit (mainstream pop music is full of pickme lyrics tbh) but tradthot craziness. Behind Closed Doors is a banger but the lyrics…wtf. Whenever I listen to it I just try to imagine it as some commentary on domestic violence even though it's just Lana romanticizing crazy moids as usual.
I feel like she semi came out about this already. A few months back she did an interview about her fibromyalgia and PTSD (usually linked) and when I saw a bunch of other fibro sufferers accusing her of faking it..I was like isn't she open about having been raped? Isnt that enough to warrant having psychosomatic pain?
Fibro community was real bitchy about it for some reason. They never shut up about wanting to be believed but as soon as some celeb has it they dont believe them
saw outfits of her before she went full ana-chan and she doesn't have the best style.
also, why nobody talkin' about how skinny she became? like ultra, in the tiffanys comercial or the emmys …
>>812185> middle class american girls who wish they had actual issues
Such women are probably in abusive
I have to wonder if some of these cultural influences that endorse unhealthy relationships have influenced the kids who reblogged their offshoots on tumblr. Like the girl whose blog was pastel with pictures of a "daddy" tanktop and lana lyrics, is she ok now?
She also made a MV and a song about people victim
blaming rape victims
few years ago
This Collab happened in 2013, and people started speaking out only in 2018?
Not following music trends and news all the time, so could be earlier.
True but no one actually took it seriously until 2018. Up to that point, most were like “Oh R. Kelly, you cad!”
She’s definitely a hypocrite there but she’s hardly the only one. It’s weird how society did a 180 on him. Granted, it had a lot to do with MeToo but still.
lol the redtext, I don't know why muh mermaid hasn't got white skin
is a topic of discussion at all, you can watch Aquaman if you want to see a redhead white lady swimming in the sea, or Splash for a blonde. It's not like we are suffering a dearth of white lady mermaids which must be rectified specifically by this movie.
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Maybe I’m just an old prude but this transformation is really disappointing. Her verse on the new Ashnikko song is fucking boring too.
I swear I'm not a /pol/tard but I notice its mostly white female characters being recast as black women, but the male love interest is still white
There's been a lot of BWWM content in media since about 2017, its kinda weird(global rule #7)
makes me think of when australia tried to eliminate the aboriginals by "breeding out" their bloodline
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she always came off insufferable and phony to me, that goth kid song was so fucking bad
>I’m Wednesday Addams to you basic ass hoes>Marilyn Manson to you corny ass bros>I was sleepin' in the cemetery>Kinda cute, a little scary, goth as fuck, a little Carrie
of course she looks like this now jfc. she's been like four different girls at least during her career, just following whatever might work for her. thankfully nothing has ever actually worked.
theater does colorblind casting all the time, i imagine that movies are going to approach that as time goes on and people become more aware of diversity. i don't think an agenda is being pushed because in one singular film the historical white woman is being portrayed by a black actress. there will probably be several other aspects of her life that are exaggerated or outright invented for the sake of creating a cinematic narrative.
you can watch natalie dormer play her in the tutors, or natalie portman play her in the other bolelyn girl if you need her actress to be a certain skintone.
im ready for the >i was just pretending to be goth
shit to end already
nta but am I misinterpreting one of you? Because greentext sounds like the opposite of what she’s saying. Most of the visually BWWM I’ve seen in media couplings like >>812678
mentioned are with mixed women. Not racebaiting, I don’t think it’s “eliminating” anyone, just that racially ambiguous is hot now, as seen with the dysmorphic celebrities itt. So I noticed the influx too. I don’t get how it would apply to Halle’s casting though.>>812688
Nokia is a genuine grifter. She’ll be one thing for one month and then brand it as if it was part of her entire lifestyle to avoid getting called out.
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I have my own theory regarding this, see black women are almost never allowed to be "just women" in Media, either their fetishized, politicized or mocked
The Fetishization is fairly simple to understand, the politicazation however comes often from white women, who often glorify the "Strong Independent black women" trope and really make things wierd, and the mocking stereotypes usually comes from black males
So black women are never allowed to be just women, So the very idea of a black female being a love Interest is really revolutionary, that's why black girls and women like this type of content
correct, although I'm not saying it's literally killing anyone, I'm saying it makes me suspicious and makes me think of other historical examples of black and brown women being treated in such a way>>812707
Yeah but deities are fictional, not to mention capeshit movies are basically a free-for-all. Same goes for Ariel– mermaids aren't real, so who cares. However Anne Boleyn was a real person and we have a general idea of what she actually looked like. It would be equally nonsensical to cast Vinn Diesel as Abraham Lincoln.
Intentionally inaccurate casting really only works in comedies or alternate history fantasy.
You summed it up perfectly.>>812713
Makes sense. It’s hyperbole, that’s fair.>>812705
Yes I see, that makes sense why you’d read her comment and think that. It is pretty rare to see that be said not only on the vast majority of the internet, but in general. Unfortunately it has been attempted in recent history, so as senseless as would be to pin a Disney movie for enforcing it I can see why anon would have that come to mind. >>812716
nta but I think the question was moreso about why ariel’s direct opposite love interest wasn’t also cast as a different race than the animated classic. It’s a fair question but I think the answer is that either
A) the man they did cast was the best for the job
B) he had connections and landed the role
C) it’s to avoid being viewed by audiences as a “Black” movie regardless of marketing, or to possibly “alienate” audiences by forgoing either of the leads being the same skin color as the first movie. It could be a combination of all 3 or something else entirely. I don’t think we’ll have a good idea until we get to the movie coming out.
But this whole topic is beginning to read as easily racebait. Regardless of intent it’s probably best not to go further to avoid breaking global rules.
intentionally inaccurate casting happens all the time in theater, which british audiences are very familiar with. if we're going as accurate as possible, anne boleyn as probably very ugly by modern standards with bad teeth but no one watches movies for complete historical accuracy, they watch movies first and foremost for entertainment.>>812737>it’s to avoid being viewed by audiences as a “Black” movie regardless of marketing
this is probably the case and why naveen in princess from the frog was a made up ethnicity from an imaginary country. i don't think it's for an agenda pushing, black women get into interracial relationships far less than black men, but despite this you rarely see black men and white women pairings on tv these days. they couldn't even pair together rey with finn in the new star wars trilogy in the end. this is the problem with trying to juggle pleasing both a liberal audience and a conservative auidnece, which big media companies like disney do. they want to make as much money as possible and that includes pleasing everyone. the pros of casting a non-white actress as a princess outweigh any cons of a racist backlash, but too much diversity and youll alienate even the white liberals who whether unconsciously or not, wouldn't relate to a film with too many nonwhite actors as a lead.
that being said, i have no problem with any kind of colorblind casting or diverse casting, but that doesn't mean it doesn't have it's criticisms.
When she posted vid related, that was when I knew her "career" was over, personally speaking. Like, it might be just the beginning, in the mainstream sense. Tiddies, cheap and sad hoe shit… all for bucks I guess. But her earlier songs (brujas, tomboy, flava, just the ones that come to mind) were about accepting one's body the way it is and it was fucking rad, she had a very interesting musical idea going on. But she comes off as unstable, personality-changing, might have some kind of BPD/NPD or something because she was abused as a kid and she continues changing accents, looks, hell even her FACE. Honestly I am so disappointed, it's not even the boobs (although yeah it's sad she fell under the pressure of plastic surgery) but like, the fact that all that she had going for herself is now buried and she seems like she won't return to it because these things sell. Her music is not as good anymore, her verses suck. Idk.
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Well I mean look at Doja cat, based on her actual day to day aesthetic, her boyfriends and her history, she doesn't even like the type to listen to the music she creates
But she plays up rap girl association cause that's what sells. A Very light skinned black/brown girl with a big ass rapping about sex and sad hoe shit
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I don’t get why people sperg about Ariel not being white when mermaids don’t even fucking exist. Plus she’s pretty and has a beautiful voice. She makes a perfect princess. >>812505
All the anons hating on Lana for lyrics that arent always about her actual life are the real pickme’s. Like damn we get it you’re too cool for Lana and don’t like tumblr crap uwu let people enjoy things
May Jailer and Lizzy Grant unreleased music was her best and NFR deserved a Grammy.
Why is this even a bad thing kek. It’s not like white men are some prize, white women don’t give a shit.
Perhaps what’s weird is that leading white female characters will change races in adaptations but white male love interests still remain white. Almost as if white men must be the love interest of every movie except for movies that make race/culture a focal point so casting is all POC
(Tyler Perry, Crazy Rich Asians). I think it goes beyond what >>812737
is saying because once you realize that male LIs are always white it becomes apparent that this is actually deliberate by the white men who control the industry.
She is such a cow, I used to like this song before I watched this interview and now I can't listen to it without thinking about how cringey she is. Skip to 2:37.>my sweet little girl voice
She literally sounds like a 40 year old smoker and is trying to pander to men's pedophilic fetishes.
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It seems like she took tips from Korean and Chinese actresses. The West loves racial ambiguity and angular faces so I’m shocked that she would go in the polar opposite direction. She could have tried enhancing what she already naturally had but had to get the doe-eyed pillow face look that’s considered beautiful in Korea for some reason. Picrel for a very similar transformation.
This would make since if she was trying to get into an Asian market (Thailand’s industry favors mixed Asians for instance and the Asian heritage doesn’t even have to be Thai) but she’s still in Hollywood where these beauty standards aren’t really a thing.
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She absolutely did look so much better before imho! Some of the comments mentioned that she looks like she went to her surgeon with a picture of Megan Fox.
I find it a bit hypocritical that she's been so vocal about her pride of being an Asian American when she's changed all of her Asian features.
I recall her calling out Ariana for copying her. Vidrel. Maybe she was emulating how white people speak idk.
But her accent in that Genius interview jsut isn’t consistent. Why does she go from sounding like she’s from New York to sounding like she’s either/or British, retarded, or drunk in a matter of seconds. Not like she just pronounces certain words oddly but like she’s purposefully trying too hard which explains why she’d sound British for 10 seconds, then drunk for 10 seconds, then New Yorker for 15 sec, etc. Has anyone looked into her background? Would love to see more on her kek she seems like a fraud.
So Munn is fine with being slapped “over and over” and choked out, but being objectified for her race
is where she draws the line. Jeannie Mai has never given a single fuck about her race until she realized it could be used to virtue signal, mostly she just spends her time worshipping white men and dunking on black women. Hilarious that these two idiots were chosen to join a journalist and politician.
Also she was in Kevin Samuels show(Kevin Samuels is a dating coach is a black male dating coach who blames all problem in black relationships on black women and says that black women should be more "submissive" Like Asian and White women
So yeah she is the last person to appear on a panel regarding racial fetishization
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She's a literal alien. Also, pic related looks more like her than most actresses you'd probably pick without even trying.
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Don't you get it? Weirdly, a lot of white people literally don't see gingers as white.
I'll never forget the time I told this blonde white guy that I was dating a white guy, I showed him a pic of us and he said "That's…not white." He was dead serious and I was so baffled by his argument that I didn't even bother arguing much.
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>>812930>a lot of people don’t see gingers as white
Then why does this mf exist then? Lmao this is why eurofags need to be encouraged to hide this thread they’re going to keep ruining it with racebait just like they did the art discussion thread.
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There are also people asking if they can get pregnant from kissing and it shows up in google results. If you think that's how you gauge what "plenty of people" think you're just as retarded as them.
THAT'S HOW IT WORKS YOU FUCK UP. Google doesn't just show results if 10 people are asking. It's more like HUNDREDS to THOUSANDS of people asking that question in order for it to become a thing that "People also search for". If you don't think "hundreds or thousands" is "plenty of people", you're being braindead right now and it's kind of embarrassing.
Anyways, fine. Whatever. I initially made a statement that you somehow took me as saying all white people believe that. I'll redact my statement since it means so much to you and say an INSANE amount of people don't believe they're white. And in this case insane doesn't mean HUGE AMOUNT it means a larger amount than logically makes sense. Fuck you and your retarded pedantics.
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>>812872>For me, dark meat on the side; white keeps me mean and lean
Weren’t pop punk, pop rock and soft rock genres popular in the 00s too? The music trends seem to be moving in tandem with the fashion ones. Doja’s already released a pop punk inspired single, in due time others will definitely follow suit. But it’s a bit sad for singers to be genuinely interested in trying various genres without it being pushed by their label or trends. They’re a part of the product, so regardless of their interests, it will be the single identity they’ve been previously marketed with that gets judged by what they put out. Taylor (iirc) commented on this— female artists are expected to come out with completely new eras all the time, yet stay the same to avoid alienating fans. To management, it doesn’t matter if these singers actually like the genre of the music they’re pushing out. I don’t think this applies to Princess Nokia because she spoke bullshit from
the beginning. But if not for Billie and Doja, at least for their other, smaller, contemporaries, it may be partially genuine.
I mean I'd rather deal with shitty rock music and young girls getting influenced to act edgy and wear black rather then sad hoe shit and sexualize their bodies
Its the lesser of evils imo
I disagree with the Dojacat comment, judging by her history, her upbringing. her IRL style and all her past bfs(who were all white skater boys) she doesn't seem to have genuine affection for the genre she makes
She's smart enough to know that a lightskinned black girl who twerks is what's most popular in the rap genre and that's how she markets herself, So I don't think a jump to some sub genre of rock music would be a difficult translation for her
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I'm sorry but like, that has no correlation
Making rap doesn't mean you have to date rappers
Artists can make whatever kind of art they are inclined to and still have personal lives, it makes no sense, it has no correlation
People are just very accostumed to looking at celebrity magazines where female rappers date male ones
No,>>813040 is right., but i don't think its about her upbringing. She knows how to make the most money from her audience. Once her career starts to decline she'll just go back to fucking white dudes and settle down, have a baby, and live comfortably.
and I lowkey doubt she actually broke up her boyfriend, probably just a stunt to bring in more self hating black incels.
And what's wrong with that?
The only one who has no real identity is Princess Nokia, she has always been sus from the start.>>812832>Has anyone looked into her background? Would love to see more on her kek she seems like a fraud.
For what I have seen, she was born in Puerto Rico, raised in New York in a black neighborhood, had an abusive
household and was put into foster care, most of them hit her or treated them badly. Until she ran away.
She never had a place to belong to, so that explains her skewed sense of identity. Sometimes she's latina, sometimes she has a deep black ancestry, sometimes she's puertorican, sometimes she's from black New York, but always one at a time and never fully coming together. Sometimes she's a cute and sweet femenine lady, sometimes she's a "fuckable petite girl", sometimes she's a zero-fucks-given bronx tomboy, sometimes she's a natural witch, sometimes she's a strong latina from a poor neighborhood, sometimes she's a true and tried emo, sometimes she's offbrand boujee, and she even claims to be Taino, a puertorican indigenous tribe that was almost driven to extintion. That made her face backlash in her early tumblr years, I'll continue in the next post cause this one is already long enough
Hell she at one point was called a feminist rapper (look how different she looks in video related)
Watching this video again, she says "I always felt like an outcast".
Anyways, she faced backlash on tumblr because of the song and video related. I'm going to link the posts, her username was "themermaidgirl"https://this-is-not-taino.tumblr.com/post/125981771229/so-according-to-one-taino-who-saw-my-post-princess
In this one she claims to know taino, to been raised with taino cultural influences, to have done traditional dances and the like. Her reasoning is that every Puerto Rican is mixed with Taino (not 100% accurate). But the "dances" she's reffering to, are just americanized pow wow dances (the kind that just integrates and bastardizes every other indigenous culture), and she's caught using the Taino language without even understanding it, pretending that the gibberish she says means something grander. Taino people are alive and don't like being represented by the non Taino.
This was her response, basically being passive aggressive and "why are you so negative??"https://this-is-not-taino.tumblr.com/post/131025675429/hope-you-enjoy-indigenous-peoples-day-along-with
I even remember someone writing a posts about how hurtful her lyrics in this song were. Because it says>There's naked children running all about>Young girls, carry babies from their neck>Nipples dripping nectar for the youth>We play with plants and we don't watch cartoons>Washing in rivers and prepare our food>This is what young girls, young girls do
and there is a big fetish surrounding many indigenous cultures and a lot of those so called "young girls" are getting raped. So she faced backlash because of this. And also, she used some audio from a random revivalist "native american" group in this song, unrelated to Taino.
Besides that, I also have another juicy fact about her. She once cancelled a concert in Mexico at the last minute because "her puertorican people needed her", but never announced what exactly she was going to do for Puerto Rico lmao she just didn't want to perform. The people who organized the show called her irresponsable and put the blame on her. They said she's a difficult person to work with, and that she previously had threatened to cancel everything out of the blue, but then she backed up and did tell them that she would show up. Then randomly announced via an instagram post that she wouldn't. No direct communication with the managment team or anything.https://remezcla.com/music/princess-nokia-cancels-cdmx-show/
ATA, I wasn’t saying Doja is genuine about caring for rap as an art form, nor does making rap music mean she cares about Black activism or hip hop. It’s clear she went the rapper route because she likes pop rap and it sells. Her look only makes herself more marketable. But my comment was about her, Billie, and other artists’ sincerity when venturing into different genres throughout their careers. She could just as easily like pop rock and want to release more songs like it, and regardless of how genuine any of these artists are when they musically transition people will judge them based on the image they already had. Which is why it was relevant that specifically Doja had already previously released a well performing pop punk inspired song. And like >>813067
mentioned, her team made sure she dabbled in many genres from the get-go. So you’re right that a full album transition would be easy for her.
She likes pop rap and likes looking like a hot girl, so it fits her, I think she genuinely likes what she's doing and the fact that is marketeable is even better for her. She already dressed the way she does before her fame>>813094>>813082
She's just a memey 4channer girl, the whole reason for moo was because she liked those memey kind of songs. I don't think she's an alt-righter, that's blowing things out of proportion for the sake of a narrative that she's a bad person.
Remember that some days before this scandal, Cardi B got pissed at her and said some shit like "she's going to go down"? Yeah, I think Cardi's team was the one who pushed this.
Exactly. If they saw this website they would call it alt-right and transphobic.
I've met good people from 4chan, radfems at that.
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>>813096>Yeah, I think Cardi's team was the one who pushed this.
I have proof for this.
Doja has always loved Cardi, but Cardi is an unstable dramawhore bitch who loves to fight anything and anyone on the basis of nothing.https://www.capitalxtra.com/artists/cardi-b/news/claps-back-doja-cat-mocking-bars-video/https://www.cheatsheet.com/entertainment/inside-the-rumored-feud-between-cardi-b-and-doja-cat.html/
Doja was parodying one of Cardi's songs out of admiration, she has been seen singing Cardi's songs before that because she genuinely liked her. But Cardi and her fans took it as a personal offense, even though Doja called the song "fire". But then… this happened.
nta but wasn’t the alt-right accusation because she had a bunch of white guys in the tinychat room calling her a jew/nigger? And apparently the same guys she stuck a cucumber up her ass for. The fact that she was (sexually) entertaining scrotes from 4chan only means she doesn’t care how degenerative those men were, no false-narrative needed. It’s cow behavior and being exposed during peak BLM months, the backlash was warranted. It’d had said more if people didn’t
mock her over it kek.
>>813112>Orrrr maybe she was a very impressionable person and dumb enough/needed attention.
And how is that any different from not caring about the fact that the men you surround yourself are degenerates? You can be an attention starved loser and still do that.
Fucked up to compare her to the grooming stories, what the fuck kind of narrative is that? Those anons were like 13, not on the cusp of 20. You might as well believe sh0e was groomed by vaush into being an edgy pickme too.
I agree with you, Lana is actually very good at pop songs. This is one of her best songs and it sounds absolutely nothing like her typical stuff.
It's not pick me, it's not sad, and it's very lively
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The "sweet little girl voice" thing was cringy of her to say, but doesn't really come as a surprise to me. She reminds me a bit of Lana Del Rey in the "Lolita" era. Her lyrics sometimes have elements of that, it is what it is:
>Baby Spanish fly, East Side señorita>I be cuttin' checks like it was a pizza>You know how I do, boricua Lolita
>School yard hop scotch and skies>Little girls showing off they belly
>Stuck in the crib, stuck in the crib, I'm a big little kid>I'm the bottle, the bib, the baby food lid>The nipple, the lid, and I did what I did 'cause I live how I live
>That's middle school and I'm actin' coy>Back of the class, they sending my ass>Roll up my skirt and they think that I'm fast
>I'm a summer night on a honest day>Just like a child I wanna play>Wanna play a game>Go and hide and seek>You can be the student, I can help you teach
Uhhhm what the actual fuck??? the fuck is this picture LMAO
I lost all the lingering respect I had for her now KEK oh my fucking god this needs to be in the next thread pic
I remember this, I didn't know what to make of it since I'm not Taino. Didn't know about the Mexican concert/"My people need me" thing though, wew.
Btw, do you have her old cosplay pics by any chance, anon? I remember her cosplaying from Sailor Moon and Leon The Professional, but she deleted her cosplay posts from IG.
NTA ##(but the other Lana anon ITT kek) and I agree. She's Not Me is amazing, can't believe I forgot it.
On a different note, I wish she released more stuff like Noir in which she's channeling this angry BPD mess of a woman. Adore the track (kinda reminds me of Opheliac), even though we only have a poorly mastered (?) demo. Personally I regret that despite having so many interesting song styles Lana's stuck making music that is kinda bland even for her brand, but maybe she needs to get that out of her system… I guess it's best for her to follow her inspirations, even though the results don't always charm me.
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KEK this is sick and deranged. This eclipses the shit she said in her genius video.>>813137
Singing isn’t her strong suit. Neither is she great with lyricism, apparently.>>813138
That’s fair. None of what was discussed would make her colorist. She’s not responsible for a standard that prefers women who look like her, nor is it hinting at anything for a white woman to tend to be romantically involved with white men as previously implied.>>813149
She cosplayed both Usagi and Chibiusa. Which did you mean? Usagi was for a genderspecial sailor moon event she performed at, and Chibiusa was just a post.
She appeals to the market of colorist black males and knows she doesn't have to do much for this demographic other then just be light skinned and twerk, also like every rapper dates white girls, if she wants to date white guys then thats her preference
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Didn't Nokia already do a pop punk EP? She was kind of ahead of the trend.
Given Kylie's status and why she's famous, there's really no hope for her to ever have a healthy romantic relationship with anyone ever.
The best friends that she pays to be around her and live with are the substitute for intimate relationships.
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>>813092>Besides that, I also have another juicy fact about her. She once cancelled a concert in Mexico at the last minute because "her puertorican people needed her", but never announced what exactly she was going to do for Puerto Rico lmao she just didn't want to perform. The people who organized the show called her irresponsable and put the blame on her. They said she's a difficult person to work with, and that she previously had threatened to cancel everything out of the blue, but then she backed up and did tell them that she would show up. Then randomly announced via an instagram post that she wouldn't. No direct communication with the managment team or anything.https://remezcla.com/music/princess-nokia-cancels-cdmx-show/
Wow, she really is a shitty person huh
Yeah, if anything her relationship with travis (as far as I looked into it) Seems like the most normal one she's had in the spotlight. Her last ex got her before she was even legal, and he groomed her. Not to mention he was a cheater/tranny chaser now pornstar. At least travis seems like a good dad, is still relevant and he's worlds better than Tyga.
It's sad but she might as well open her relationship. Or just date lowkey dudes who come from money but they don't want that. I feel a lot of men think of the Karjenners as a "Fetish" or accomplish just like they view the famous men they date.
Khloe's baby daddy was telling girls he was cheating on her with that Khloe wasn't his type and is constantly embarrassing her. If Khloe wasn't so shitty I'd almost feel bad for her.
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I'm starting to think that she has some kind of DDLG fetish to cope with the fact that she has flat tits and ass. That genius interview wouldn't have bothered me so much if she was't obviously sexualizing the idea of being smol and childish, which she isn't. She didn't strike me as a self-assured person, she sounded like she was overcompensating.>>813092>She once cancelled a concert in Mexico at the last minute because "her puertorican people needed her"
So she couldn't do a show in Mexico because "her people" needed her but has claimed to be half Aztec before? It's giving personality disorder.
Yes it's good. And I was in my early twenties when it came out, for the record.>>813327>Huge Lana fag>Dislikes most of her catalogue
Doesn't check out. God with "fans" like these you don't even need haters lmfao. Have you considered that if you find most of her music shit, maybe it's just not for you? Anyway I disagree with most Lana spergs agreeing that NFR! is the best. Seems like it's considered her best album by her haters (and critics). I've seen most fans like it, but certainly not consider it the best. Many complain that it's bland for Lana and that every other singer could record it (not sure if I agree with this one). Maybe we are runnying in different Lana circles, but that's my experience.
Honestly I don't think any decent man of any race or social class would be willing to go for the Kardashains, they attract and go for shitty Dusty men and honestly I don't feel bad for either parties except of course their children
Male rappers who promote colorism and fetishize non black women deserve the Kardashians
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Does anyone know why this girl has been inescapable lately? I know she has a fanbase but I keep seeing promos for her all over youtube and twitter, and seeing her music in spotify playlists in countries where people don't really care about her. I can't tell if its just more noticeable because I don't listen to her but I feel like even the hot artists right now like lil nas x or even billie don't get this level of advertising kek.
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I'm looking up a lot of former Disney stars and most have seemed to turn out normal
Like they continue acting in their Disney sitcom without much effort, playing their one note characters while also going through puberty, once their show is over they release one Album that gets mediocre reviews which signifies the end of their music career
Afterwards they mostly fade into obscurity, some get normal jobs, many become models, while others continue acting as bit-Characters in films/TV shows, like Valet in Paul Blart Mall Cop 2, Soldier #27 in some big War Movie e.t.c
I thought you guys would be happy they're insulting men>>813036
Yeah, rock music has neve influenced girls to become hoes and sexualise their bodies. Groupies were invrnted by rappers.>>813112>4channers groomed by idiots
Imagine admitting to that lol
Lolcow is worse than twitter and plebbit at this point, kek. Can't hurt the precious poc
feelings wahhh wahh.(stop racebaiting)
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St Vincent is a low-key cow.
I used to love her. Then I found out one of my favorite songs for her- Strange Mercy- was sympathetic to her scumbag stepfather who was arrested for white collar crimes. Initially I thought it was a song about police brutality…
Then she has the audacity in her most recent album to compare that to mass incarceration of black people.
She seems like she gets a pass for certain things because she is more "cerebral" than other pop artists.(racesperging)
Its shitty that is not considered the norm, really fucking hope that when rock overtakes rap this shit finally ends
Its not that rock music is better then rap(I really don't fucking care personally) but there's less overall self sexualization and no damn twerking
They'll be sexualized regardless. Don't you remember The Runaways? Look at shit like Starcrawler even today.
This is what happens when moids are allowed to run music.
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"Street walking Cheeto" is out and about, apparently.
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Taika Waititi is in a polycule with Rita Ora and Tessa Thompson
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Hell world. I thought Tessa had more sense.
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Why do they fetishize their own pregnancies
I really like his movies and he seemed cool even kind of found him cute
until I learned he cheated on his wife and left her for one of his staffmembers? why are men such pieces of shit
Propagandizing young women to believe that being groomed and abused is somehow romantic was a real fucking moment, wow. Open your OF! So empowering! It’s so bad.
The only people having kids are religious zealots. Black women are aborting their babies faster than they can fuck, educated families are too ‘smart’ to want children, the media has us all trained well; women hate men, blacks hate whites and all the other poc
hate blacks and whites for sucking all the air out of the room, and reality denying troons and genderspecials are taking over in the name of science. It really really sucks to be you if your first chance to vote is 2024, the world you inherited is utter garbage and there’s nothing you can do to make it better. First off no one will allow you to fix it, but all the people you look up to are retards, crooks and thugs just like the rest of them.
Have fun with your industry plants and corporate shills and purity spirals, I guess? That’s about all you’re gonna get. So depressing. Nothing is fun anymore.(racesperging)
She can’t sing. She sounds out of breath. Lyrics suck. Acting In Music video is cringe.
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We have lost another one
This is just like Janelle Monae with "PYNK" and how people called her a TERF
over the vagina imagery. She later announced she was non-binary and bisexual, lmao.
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he just divorced his wife, so he is out there to get as much pussy as he can.>>814098>She's just a clout-chasing grifter now, right? What happened to her career as a pop star or whatever?
I really had to look at up and her last album was released in 2018. Kek, back in 2012 she said that she will as big as rihanna, because Jay-Z told her that lol
Which is kinda funny, because I always saw her as the poor man's version of riri https://www.theguardian.com/music/2012/apr/12/rita-ora-jay-z
"I don't think there will be a next Rihanna," she says. "But I think [Jay Z] definitely sees me as someone who could be as big as Rihanna. She's a superstar now but they first knew her as a small-island girl – and they want to repeat that success."
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Nooo I hate it here
That's basically what it's saying nonnie
. They spent too much time online hanging around kweer circles and their ideas combined with their already existing internalized misogyny makes them ashamed of being "just a woman" and not an "interesting person". So they tag that "they" on to signal they acknowledge their sex but also are an actual, real person instead of a part of some mystical singularity with regulated codes called women.
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When will it end…
Yeah it seems like her career never really took off, afaik the last time anyone was talking about Rita Ora it was because she was breaking covid quarantine and throwing a bday party during the height of the second wave, to which people responded "since when does Rita Ora have enough friends to throw a birthday party" lol>>814222>I really like his movies and he seemed cool even kind of found him cute
Ok same, glad I'm not the only one that had this impression. I didn't know he cheated on his wife too, what a scumbag.
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The Honey Boo Boo family are still on TV, apparently. I'm not an American so I don't know how relevant they are to media over there but Mama June is now a crack head with an abusive boyfriend, she sold the family house and all of Alanas belongings to buy crack for said abusive boyfriend, and is just generally being what people who arent American think trailer trash looks like
The first TV show they had was cancelled because the mum started dating the man who sexually assaulted her oldest daughter. Let that sink in.
And then a few years later she was given a new show, From Hot to Not, where the goal was to get "hot" so she could look excellent on another womans wedding day. This was a rivalry based on the fact this woman thinks June is an unfit parent. They're real careful not to let anyone know that this is likely the result of it being public knowledge that June knows about how the pedo raped her oldest daughter and then let him sleep in the same bed as Honey Boo Boo.
The From Hot to Not was cancelled when they started publically broadcasting Geno mentally abusing June and people started to pick up on tbe fact that she was bolloxed on drugs most of the time.
- the good guy dad, sugar bear, is implied to have physically beaten one of the daughters so badly that she now has a wonky eye
- there is a family friend who has his nazi tattoos blurred out on air but are still clearly swastikas on his arms
- one of the daughters is a troon
- June's mother hates her for her colourful past which includes getting preggo at 14 with an older man
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This looks so photoshopped I can't help but cringe, no way she has ABS for days and literally zero muscle anywhere else (it's originally from her insta)
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The tattoo in question. The guys name is Big Mike. I used to wonder why his arms were blurred out in the Irish release of the show, apparently he has subtle and not so subtle white supremacy tattoos
The weird thing with Rita Ora is that she had a chance to embed herself into the music industry but either she or her team failed at it.
No matter how much views her music videos get people are barely buying her albums or music. She makes hit songs that are bland and dont show her as a artist and most people forget that rita was the person in the song like for example her song with liam payne where all the comments were about liam only.
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Those look 100% like ab implants like pic related. Absolutely no way they're real.
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She's connected to Harvey Weinstein. That's why she got a contract in the first place and that's why she got so many opportunities. Now he has no power anymore and she's struggling.
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She has a thicker torso as an anorexic man suddenly than she had as a skinny woman
Speaking of dating. Imagine being her ex wife and watching all of this happen.
Realistically she must have an idea of what's really wrong but if she says anything that goes against the tranny narrative she's going to get cancelled and labeled as a terf
I'll be the first to say it. Good for her. I support FTM 10000% more than I would support MTF. It doesn't look awful and I'm almost certain her wife might be okay with it? Unless of course her wife is attracted to femme which is a valid
reason to not be okay with the transformation. But otherwise, I'm not horrified by this.
I do wonder why she didn't get the pinhole mastectomy (I think it's called that idk…) It's the one where they go in through the nipples? And there's no line scar. Why didn't see do that? You'd think a celeb would be able to afford it.
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>>814852>It doesn't look awful
My sides>I'm almost certain her wife might be okay with it?
They are divorced anon
Implants or photoshop and literally no other possible explanation. Achieving and maintaining a 6 pack like that requires a ridiculous amount of protein and diligence. There’s no human that is so sickly everywhere else with solid abs like that.
Fooling absolutely nobody and looking like a deranged sad woman while doing so. 41%er eventually
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I hope she gets actual mental help soon. I feel so sorry for her. She was adorable and it's shit that she hated herself this much to do this.
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This isn't totally and completely impossible. It takes some digging but I'm looking for pics of skinny dudes and women with defined abs. I'll also say that her midsection is kind of hogbody anyway, so it was already wide and chunky. I would see the issue if she went from bone thin. But she did have a roughly wide body seen here: >>814842
And even if you try to say "bUt anon!! She was younger and had more weight!!" The body shape isn't going to change much, unless she did waist training or something. She still had hogbody, and I'm assuming most of her weigh was around her midsection. I'm not trying to defend the way it looks, just trying to find an explanation besides photoshop and implants. I genuinely don't think she's the type of person to be that superficial about abs but I'm no Ellen expert so, take what I say with a grain of salt.
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Guy on the left kinda skinny too
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Not as defined as ellen's but he's also p skinny
These are way less bulging than Page's though. Also second guy has pec definition at least, while Page was supposedly in recovery until recently.
I think she's just photoshopped to disperse the rumors that she's unhealthy or undereating. I sure as hell hope she wasn't stupid enough to get implants, but she's very mentally ill, so who the fuck knows now.
I thought this was photoshopped at first. Poor thing looks severely unwell.
Apologies for the armchairing but this reminds me of anorexics who started to lose weight to de-sexualise themselves, except she's done it by losing lots of weight and removing her breasts.
What does that have to do with this anon saying she doesn't look miserable here
You can just say that in the comments of her picture and get all the asspats you want, nonnie
. Or tweet about it, hey, you might even get your own tranny boyfriend, girlfriend, autismfriend or enbyfriend, or even all of them! Collect them all, nonnie
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You need to get off whatever drugs you are having.
i mean, i hate reporters too, but if you make a point of supporting a fucking insider trader (lowest of the low btw, up there with pedos and drunk drivers. white-collar criminals are absolute scum compared to drug dealers, gang members, or guys who do B&Es), or make contrived fake-crazy speeches on stage, you may have to address the attention you're getting as a result of trying to get attention.
she's an amazing musician and composer and i used to love her, but her rageaholism seemed to mutate into a giant ego and she's not fun anymore. her songs are still so good though
Speaking of Beyonce can we all acknowledge that she's sort of a loser, her husband cheats on her constantly, her decision's are decided by a marketing team and her "girl power" shirts are made by children in Indonesia
I don't understand why Libfems Idolize her
Being married and a mother don't take away from her girl boss image, but staying married with a guy who cheated openly on her kind of makes her look like a cuckqueen.
She is fucking Beyonce, she could divorce his lame ass and have a new boy toy everynight on her bed, or find herself a new husband that respected her.
Jfc, so many of her musics before Lemonade where so pining, so sad, and for what? For a guy below her that doesn't even respect her enough to not to cheat.
The girl boss icon, acting like a battered wife. Fucking grim.>>815252
Outside of USA noone remembers who he is, while everyone and their grandparents know who Beyonce is. And what has he done in the last few years besides that Tidal failure?
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Jonathan Ross' daughter and Lena Dunham posed naked together and waxed poetic about on IG about the hardships of being a lardass. My eyes may never recover.
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Here is Ellen Page in "Hard Candy" to stop this stupid tinfoilery. She always had a manly body.
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mark ruffalo supports white people causing genocide upon palestine, more at 11
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She's not wrong but everything she says comes off as annoying to me kek
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didn’t see anyone on here talking about the actual caption from the cursed post. nothing says manly man like infantilizing yourself and bringing up the fact you’re trans over and over again
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It's her cunty face, anon. She always looks like shes about to do the cunt nod in every picture.
Look at that expression. Study it, remember it. Because only a black belt level of cunt can do it like this
It's especially stupid when you consider that there's nothing special about wearing swim trunks even as a woman so why bother treating it like it's some big trans first? Plenty of women wear swim trunks with tees or whatever.
Not that she could have said shit like "Trans bb's first topless swim" either because 1. Women swim topless and 2. It would reinforce that people see tits as sexual and need to be covered.
This is just a desperate attempt to make something special because it's TWANS uwu
Yup. And same goes for tims, to an even larger extent. They almost always seem to dress like a fetishized idea of a teen girl.
The ironic thing is that while tifs can often pass as teen boys better than they could pass as an adult man, tims ruin any (slim) chance they may have had at passing by dressing like they are 13 at age 45, which no real woman does. I occasionally see older tims who actually dress like women their own age and they often pass at a glance just because they haven't turned themselves into total sideshow freaks.
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Sage for medfagging but I think ellen had abdominal etching done
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You know, I feel like there could have been a cool photoshoot concept there if they were styled as voluptuous Renaissance women in a painting.
Instead it looks like someone got catfished by two fat hookers from the Inland Empire
I have two guesses:
He's doing this so when someone Googles "kevin spacey pedophile," this comes up first instead of the allegations
He's doing it because he gets off on getting away with being an unstoppable child rapist
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Courtney replies to Chrissy's apology
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I was on the fence about believing she had surgery because of this pic, but if she really worked for those abs, why the fuck wouldn't she put any effort into any other body part?
I think it's a combination of ab etching (more common and less invasive than implants) and photoshop.
The scars are clearly photoshopped. On the left under her nipple it looks like we can see, very faintly, her ribs that have been blurred out. What's that weird curved shadow under her ribs to the left of her bellybutton? And I don't even know what's going on with the shadows around her sternum area.
Sorry for sperg I just really want to see someone who knows what they're talking about to analyze this photo and truly call her out but it's never gonna happen
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I was originally one of the anons saying that I didnt think it was fake. Now that you mention this, I googled it and I 100% believe you're right.
Before and after ab etching.
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lol my life is a fucking lie, people really do this?!
At least it's not implants, which would be outlandish. So I believe ellen got some fat removed in her titis and then got the fat removed around her abs too for her new "reveal"
strange how the timestamp on the screenshot says 1 day ago when really it was posted almost two weeks ago. in other words, this is old news, nonny
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Late but how? Explain how I'm wrong.>>814291
Nearly spit out my drink kek. Picrel describes her relevance perfectly.>>815990
This is supposed to be Frank Underwood right? He doesn't have a southern accent irl.>>816155
Ignore, this thread is infested with scrotes, esp the /pol/ ejaculators who are racebaiting throughout this thread like fuck off jfc
People always think you can just "get surgery" for lose skin, but even if you do you will have huge scars, the surgeries are incredibly invasive and dangerous and even if you get stabled back together after blowing up that large your body will never again look like if you had never gained weight.
Lose skin surgeries are not magic.
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a few farmers have mentioned the blog exposingsmg from time to time and they just had a post tearing demi a new one. if you're familiar with the blog they've always had a very sympathetic view on demi and was very light-handed on all of her previous sperg outshttps://www.exposingsmg.com/blog/demi-lovato-will-keep-searching-for-authencity-because-they-are-incomplete-on-the-inside-and-living-in-a-victim
>I would like to credit Demi and say that Demi said in the documentary that they knew their team was [restricting the food consumed in her vicinity] out of love but it was just something that didn’t work.
>No, idiot. The team wasn’t doing it out of love. They were doing it as a RESPONSE to YOUR behavior.
>Demi is living in a victim mentality while also suffering from a savior complex.
>Demi believes that the world owes them something because of how badly they were treated. But newsflash home-they (??), YOU were firsthand someone who came up with LIES and SCHEMES to get your way.
>Demi believes that they are owed the decency of having EVERYTHING tailored towards them.
>Demi is easily persuaded and I’m not talking about coming out as non-binary. I’m talking about everything.
>That person told Demi that gender reveal parties were transphobic so then Demi went and posted that gender reveal parties were transphobic.
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This isn't exactly new but he's so fucking chunky
The kind of person who'd take their time writing a very long, very shitty and very aggressive psychoanalysis/takedown about a celebrity is probably as emotionally stable as Demi.>>816133
That's a good point, lmao. Time to mentally prepare myself for the day Bo Burnham gets exposed
Agreed but there's no way you can change the minds of farmers when it comes to bodies, just look at any of the nitpicking threads on /snow/
Imo Ellen has always been predisposed to being a rectangle with abs and spaghetti arms like in the hard candy pic and if they're on testosterone they will build that muscle even faster. Imo their latest photo probably shows a combination of targeted ab workouts emphasized by posing and editing but that's outrageous maybe it's implants or baby blood serum from the pizzagate basement>>816375>a never ending cycle for them.
That would be a reason for surgeons to push this procedure, repeat procedures can be blamed on the client when they inevitably don't keep the weight off
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ariana released pics from her wedding
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the baby’s legs look very skinny. she didn’t seem to eat much when she was pregnant either
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might be a topic nobody cares about, but has anyone else been following the "whirlwind" obvious beard relationship between shailene woodley and aaron rodgers? ever since they announced their sudden engagement they've been paying nonstop for tabloid coverage of them looking awkward together. it's truly insufferable and cringe. i can't wait for the wedding
I’m really hoping she was readjusting her arm for a second and it was more candid than anything, but Summer is so vain and irresponsible that you can’t give her the benefit of the doubt. She’s leaving the bottle in it’s mouth ffs. That’s genuinely dangerous, on top of feeding it honey. >>816505
That’s why she’s here dipshit.
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You're supposed to hold the baby's head and body with one arm, and hold the bottle with the other hand. Supporting the baby's head is a key thing, and by putting the baby bottle on her armpit like that she's risking 1.the bottle falling 2.the baby choking, you should always ALWAYS pay attention to your baby as you feed it. Hell you should pay attention to your baby always PERIOD, she's not holding him properly, a false movement and that baby will fall on the ground on a rock or in a bad position and have lifetime damage or die. Babies are so fragile. There's people who shouldn't have babies and she's one of them if she cares more about posing in underwear than the wellbeing of her baby. I'm angry.
First of all, I was being facetious. Clearly she's a celebrity, no shit. >>816508
Apparently not since I've never heard of her and I know allll of the celebs /s
. In all seriousness, as a person who dabbles heavily in her genre, I would think I'd at least know this person even a little. >>816510
I'm a huge music person but I've literally never heard of her. Not even on the "top hits" playlists of spotify. Sorry, her last big hit was from 2018 how is she even relevant? After listening to her top song, she sounds like very other rap singer, SZA wanna be
Anyways I don't want to derail based on whether or not I know a celeb.
literally her Over It album was wildly popular. >>816527
clearly you dont dabble enough dummy lol. And she is super talented. Just also super dumb. Here is one of my fave EPs from her.
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silly anon didn't consider googling both name and surname
Why would you come to lolcow of all places to be a poser, and for rnb? >I’m a huge music person who dabbles heavily in her genre, never heard of her>summer walker the sza wannabe rap singer, with no hit since 2018
kek this is genuinely embarrassing. >>816548>>816520
We already know she has some pretty bad mental illness regarding her looks, but if leaking into how she takes care of her child then the pos baby daddy at the very least should step in. Both parents suck.
they love lynching women not even just everyone its mainly women who get the worst of it and rarely ever recover. The fact that Chris brown STILL has never been cancelled blows my mind. He is a psycho abusive
POS colorist but no one cares.
Her baby daddy had drama for not being around his other kids, he's too busy chasing men/trannies (alledgely).
I wish Summer the best because she is mentally ill and she made it seem like she didn't want that baby at all.
She also doesn't trust the vaccine but gets all kinds of shit pumped into her body and lets a dude on the DL fuck her.
I hope the baby ends up okay.
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Summer is trying to justify feeding her 2 month old daughter blended fruit, powdered mushrooms extract, hemp seeds, and raw honey instead of breast milk or formula.
Babies can be skinny, and have their weights fluctuate. But this is definitely not the diet of a healthy, fully nourished newborn. People are threatening to call CPS on her. >>816652
You’re completely right. Her skepticism and hypocrisy when it comes to health certainly isn’t helping her either.>>816605>>816631
I like her, but trying to justify doja and her little group of fuck ups on tinychat is stan behavior. She’s an edgelord who got served for a month, and is doing fine now. Of course the men who shat on doja don’t care about cb. Besides the different sexes there’s a specific and clear difference between them, which leaves no reason to expect different from the men who both lusted after her and tore her down. Trying to simplify it so you can cope gets you nowhere.
This shit is making me mad tbh. I hope she's doesn't have Post Partum Depression.
What also pisses me off is people are asking, "Where's summer's parents? Is there anyone who can take the baby? Step in?" As if she the baby doesn't have a father.
It feels like no one truly cares about her or they enable her.I'm really worried for the baby.
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the powerpuff girls live action script was leaked. it's… not great.
for anyone interested in reading ithttps://lilfile.com/jbOKeG
buttercup is a lesbian, bubbles becomes an influencer, and blossom has a ton of nudes and enjoys sleeping around. who even asked for this to be made?
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Even pasteurized honey shouldn't be given to babies, and she's using fucking raw honey, jfc. I don't know shit about babies and I knew that.
Most of the replies to the person who tweeted this pic were defending her saying "it's no one's business how she chooses to feed her child"
I guess in the year 2021 we're so removed from reality and caught up in the doctrine of personal choice that people can't just understand through common sense that young babies are vulnerable and need to be cared for in a certain way?
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completely agree on his bisexuality. i also think they're cute, i'm just obsessed with their weirdo fauxlationship for some reason. i've heard rumors that she's gay/bi too, and if so their mutual bearding is actually kinda sweet imo
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Remember this is the woman who walked around for several years with a botched brow lift
Imo she doesn't look bad but full contour/glam makeup for a wedding is a bit cringe.
I mean did she expect to pass no problem??>>816883
These are so hard to read without my eyes rolling out of my head.
Dude zoomers are 24 at most
this is not their fault, most people involved in this are probably millenials
diablo cody is about to be 43, shes neither gen z or millennial.
hollywood is stuck on thinking all we want are edgy reboots of fun things from our childhood and its so fucking DRY. like how they just did the winx club, what about the campy & colorful original made people think anyone wanted a follow-up that was the opposite of that?
Why does everyone keep blaming millenials for everything? Both boomers and zoomers are obsessed
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She hasn't given up yet
I don't understand how these celebrities can pass up on the tried and true makeup artists like Lisa Eldridge or Gucci Westman that make celebrities look classy as fuck. This is literal drag queen makeup and it looks awful. I can't help but wonder if maybe one day she'll look back and cringe at the makeup here…then again her aesthetic/taste is completely different from mine so she could very well still love it 15 years and 2 marriages from now.>>816659
Lower belly fat (typically called the 'pooch') is there to protect the uterus. Once I learned this I stopped hating mine, after years of trying to get rid of it. We need to appreciate the female anatomy more because it's so fucking amazing.>>816825
Kek netflix wouldn't take it?
in the clip she says the baby bar is harder than the actual bar. yeah fucking right. it's called the baby bar for a reason. there are far fewer subjects tested on the baby bar than the real thing. what a condescending simpleton. she said she spent only 6 weeks studying, so it's not surprising that she failed so miserably. she tried to take a shortcut to practicing law without having to finish an undergraduate degree and write the LSAT first. she posted photos on insta of her "studying" in a bikini, clearly just doing this for clout. poor thing thought she only needed to memorize some facts without doing actual analysis. as an actual law student who worked hard to get to where I am, it's incredibly gratifying to watch her embarrass herself publicly like this.>>816944
kek I'll be writing it next year actually
“she spent "six weeks straight, 10 to 12 hours a day" studying for the exam.” yeaaaaa fucking right kim. i don’t even have words for that statement. >>816476
does anyone else feel like she’s gonna pop out a baby ASAP? like, i’ll bet money that she’ll be pregnant by Christmas.
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it's our favourite 5ft 2 hunk
ladies, any takers?
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So Kanye might be dating professional beard Irina Shayk who was previously bearding for Bradley Cooper and Cristiano Ronaldo. I predict that Kim will go official with Van Jones within a week.
Kek lmao she is the biggest cow of russian modeling community…I would be impressed if shes actually dating him, because usually she just bs for attention.>>817172
Afa I remember they are
Anything having to do with vaginas gets called TERF
. It’s fucking ridiculous.
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all that money and this is her dress for her big day? it looks like a nightie
I like it, but that's maybe because I'm not American.
Her face looks so old though, the drag makeup does her no favours.
>>816950>Lower belly fat (typically called the 'pooch') is there to protect the uterus.
Literally not true, it's a fat acceptance meme. The uterus is protected by the pelvic bone and is farther at the back where that little subcutaneous "pooch" would help shit. Anyway, subcutaneous fat doesn't protect organs: muscles, bones and visceral(=around organs) fat do. It is true that women have higher body fat percentage than men in part for reproductive organs to fnction well, but that belly fat is just excess fat storage sis
>We need to appreciate the female anatomy more because it's so fucking amazing.
Because what >>816950
said is an HAES meme repeated by people that don't know shit about anatomy. Female (and male tbh) anatomy is indeed amazing.(derailing)
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this lmfao. looking at the replies, seems like they’re in denial and are desperately trying to pedal the responsibility to zoomers, most of whom are still underage. >>817080
no your time is very much ongoing, unfortunately
sage for ot(bait)
Irony is that the zoomer vs. millennial feud in this thread started due to some knuckle-dragging 20/30-something y/o retardedly blaming teens for ruining xir dated cartoons.>>817040
Yea but millennials ITT trying to act like xir insufferable shitters are akshully the zoomer menace
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>>817309>sage for ot
are you joking rn(sockpuppeting)
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please stop posting i'm in stitches(ban evasion)
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Armie Hammer was seen in the Cayman islands and he's dating a blonde dental hygienist. His ex-wife allegedly sent 'horrible' messages to his new gf from a fake Insta accounthttps://pagesix.com/2021/05/14/armie-hammers-girlfriend-is-dental-hygienist-lisa-perejma/
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>n-no akshally it’s zoomers!!!1
>it’s the elites!!
all to run away from the fact that they may be even more cringe than boomers and probably almost as destructive. the funniest thing is millennials didn’t even make the originals of any of these shitty cartoons, generation X did.(ban evading)
Why do literally all women have it, then? It's one of the easiest ways to clock trannies bc they don't have it and the only bio women who don't have it are those extreme bodybuilders. Even Olympic athletes like gymnasts have it. I had a BMI in the 15s when I was ana had it and it was incredibly triggering
, if it is really such a universal thing, how can it only be a sign of fatness?(derailing)
"Literally all women" don't have it, women who have a six pack don't for example. It's just subcutaneous fat. An Olympian athlete that doesn't keep an extremely lean physique will have some fat, like everywhere else their body stores fat first.
As I said, a woman's healthy body simply has more fat (especially subcutaeous) than a man's, that why men have it easier keeping up with a very lean physique and a "thin man" is going to be wayy thinner than a "thin woman". As a ton of women store fat in the belly area, a layer of belly fat is common and can show up very quickly even if you're thin, especially if you don't work out a ton, and especially if you're bloated which makes it protude a lot more and gives a pooch appearance even on extremely thin women. It doesn't have a specific function, it's just fat that could exist everywhere else on your body like thighs or arms or whatever, but is commonly stored on the belly.
I am sorry if it's triggering
. My first message wasn't to imply anyone should starve themselves to get a super flat stomach, but what you said is a myth. A layer of subcutaneous belly fat is not a specific sign of feminity and it has no particular function. We don't have to invent falsehoods to reject dangerous body ideals.(derailing)
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Anyone has been following Bam Margera's meltdowns lately?
He's been a psycho drugged-out dipshit for a solid two years. He's as fat as his dad is and getting to be about as ugly.
I feel sorry for his kid.
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There are some sad/hilarious gems on his Kiwifarms thread.
He’s so far gone and constantly posts videos of himself rambling and creating a made-up written language. It’s wild.
This horrible comparison was posted on KF. I remember thinking he was cute during Viva La Bam, fuck.
damn he is really just transforming into don vito sad to see. i honestly hope he gets better
i loved viva la bam as a kid but i fear that he has gone past the point of no return.
I thought it was someone posting Jonny Craig in the wrong thread until I saw the absence of tats.
He looks like a corpse pulled straight from the ocean
>>817648>He's as fat as his dad is and getting to be about as ugly.
Poetic justice for all the times he treated his parents like absolute shit.>>817688
Goddamn he looks 10x worse than the last time I checked in on him, and he already looked pretty bad then.
>>817648>for a solid two years.
Anon he's been spiralling hard since Ryan Dunn's death, it's easily been 10 years now, I feel like back in like 2014 he already promised to go to therapy, lose the weight, start skating again…
If he only looked and was like his dad it would be ok, but he seems to take more after Don Vito and we all know how that ended.
I orinally discovered him because of Him. Bam often said that Ville "introduced" him to daydrinking, meaning is partly at fault for young fanboy Bam turning out like that. But he's dropped him ages ago already.
I read on kf that his other old friends still tried to help him (around 2 years ago?), but Bam is so paranoid that he thinks everybody is conspiring against him. It's just sad at this point.
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Steve-o commented on one of Bam's IG videos. He keeps going off on Knoxville and Tremaine for "turning against him" and even puts blame on his own child crying for making him go crazy. I wonder if he'll ever grow up and take responsibility but he's had everything handed to him for nearly half his life just for doing stupid shit on camera so I doubt it.
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Somehow sucking off Muskrat takes the cake for me