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What a lie. I can't even have them in the house or I'll eat the whole thing in a day.
Then again I'm not American and only find them in shops occasionally and in limited flavours so I haven't had the chance to take them for granted.
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there’s ALREADY an applebee’s gen that’s stolen valor…. I respect OP’s decision pic related, me and my boys.
At this point a lot of pt seems more worthy of snow, and w feels close to being a desert in terms of milk
I wish we had new cows
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I'm a eurofag and I once ordered some Twinkies because I always thought that they looked kinda good.
I opened the box and tasted them and I was APPALLED. I think that it really was the worst shit I've ever eaten in my entire life. They just taste like baking soda and sugar!!!!!! Literally nothing else, just sweet-ass baking soda!!!
How can you seriously eat this shit?
You're probably right.
I had always seen them in tv shows and on the internet and I had hyped myself up for this cream-filled sponge cake for years, only to be let down like this. I was willing to give the Americans and their candy a chance and I'm very, very disappointed. I even tried the chocolate version and it really wasn't any better.
This and little debbies I fuckin' love.
T.Amerifat who loves even the worst of our frosting covered garbage.
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Agreed, nowadays it's either "thicc goddess" with small waist + big tits and ass or a literal child, petite, no ass, no tits. No more of 90-2000s type of skinny
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I agree, though K-pop skinny is popular and accepted. It seems like the thing right now is "petite and cute, while still remaining soft and not having much bone outline in the face or body" skinny, as opposed to the "long and lanky heroin chic with prominent bone outlines on the face/body and muscle" skinny from the past.
Either way, it's kind of lame to base the kind of body you like or want for yourself on what's popular, lmao.
What’s the difference between 2000’s skinny and Kpop skinny? Kpop girls certainly aren’t slim thicc goddesses LOL they’re actual anachan tier without the hip pads and ass shoop.
Skinny girls with small boobs and ass get followers easily as long as they dress up in popular aesthetics. People just don’t say out loud “wow I love how thin she is” but they follow them all the same.
the difference is
the pads and shoop, anon. they are trying to cultivate a different look.
Just from the examples posted, >>625194
looks pretty different from >>625168
. Both extremely thin, but kpop girls aren't bony and still have a soft femininity like other anon said. Pretty distinct to me, and it's not just the fashion.
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That's the point. They're skinny, but they have softness to their bodies. Hip pads and breast pads so their bodies look natural and "healthy" instead of wasted.
90s/2000s thin was about being lean to the bone and muscular. All sharp edges, all bone, no softness or else it's "gross baby fat".
Think of it as feminine vs masculine (or androgynous). Think about why they wear that padding. It's not for nothing, the intended image and effect is completely different.
You kind of have to be aesthetically blind to not see the difference between this and the 5'11 rail-thin models on 90s runways.
Not all skinny is the same. Sorry, anon.
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Sure ok. Point is skinny > thicc (fat)
Consider that they wouldn't use that photo to present that idol, and think about why that's the case.
You sound like a raging ana-chan, which means your point of view is undeniably skewed (and you seem to think being able to differentiate different thin body types means someone must be thicc/fat/whatever), so I'll just dip out.
I'm not a kpopfag, I literally Googled those photos to show examples of the skinny bodies that are "popular" now.
Should I have used Ariana Grande or Tinashe instead? Calm down, lmao. I'm just saying it's not about bones anymore.
my point is they are cultivating a different look. there's a huge difference between looking ana and being
ana. kpop idols are ana af but they still want to cultivate this sexy image with padding and shoop. no one is saying it's better, but you're an idiot for thinking girl next door kpop and paris hilton are the same just because they are skinny
Where are either of them being supported, though? Obviously, neither are actually healthy, one just puts out the illusion of being that way using padding for a softer look. That's just what's popular now, there's no moral message to it. It's just how things are these days.
"They're the same"-anon just thinks there's a massive psyop going on to make her eat 2000 calories and stop chasing that thigh gap.
Why even care about popular? I just want to have muscles that "will never go away" so I can live my personal size/strength difference fantasy with my future partner.
Just get the body that's healthy and that you personally like. No need to prove it's better than everyone else's.
I see it as people's way of trying to find partners or friends of their sexuality.
I don't do it myself because I don't care, but I think it makes sense.
God I wish that were me>>625346
Well yeah, that's also stupid. I'm not against you since I want to date petite women lol.
Petite, willowy, and thicc are all attractive in different ways as long as you're healthy and caring for yourself.
Or you know, ex-fans since the abusive
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Gender reveal parties are just another excuse for parents to milk people for attention and gifts.
No one cares about the baby's gender except for the shitty sexist inlaws. Please spare us all. No one asked for this shit.
>>625398>>625403>implying you need others' acceptance or approval
Lol. With all due respect, you'll be living a much happier life when you drop the cope, admit that you want
acceptance and approval from others despite not needing it, and start trying to live life doing what makes you happy regardless of what others think. It's already understood that society's idea of what people "should" be, particularly women, is largely determined by sexist standards… if you aren't doing it for sexist men, who else are you doing it for?>>625411
Agreed. It's another baseless excuse to separate people according to biological sex.
I mean they’re annoying, yeah, but do you realize how important it is for new parents to try and receive all the help from family that they can get? Babies aren’t cheap & families are usually excited to celebrate the arrival of new life.
Also oh sound like a Twitter fag, how is it sexist to be curious about the gender of the human developing inside your family members body and want to celebrate? It’s not like the party gets shittier cake depending on what the gender is
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Never said I will ever go to one, I'm still allowed to think you're a stupid attention whore for throwing one and an even bigger dumbass if you decide to use pyrotechnics that set off a 7000 acre fire.
>>625426>do you realize how important it is for new parents to try and receive all the help from family that they can get?
If they have to scrape by like that they shouldn't be having a baby in the first place, ya can't afford it
responsible reproduction 2020
NTA, but in the western world most pregnancies are planned and avoidable, and a good portion of the western population has access not only to the resources used to prevent conception but also the resources (conditionally, it admittedly isn't an easy process) to get an abortion or to get a surgical procedure which will render one infertile. Anon's sentiment shouldn't apply to the entire world, but those who do
have access to those resources and choose to have a child only to not adequately raise the child or to complete about being a parent are (subjectively, of course) making an unwise and immoral decision that warrants judgement, in that they are bringing another life into the world that they aren't ready to care for or don't want to care for.
Samefag - I guess an unpopular opinion of mine is that communal parenting is the optimal form of parenting, and members of every culture should raise and care for every child around them as if it's their own. This would solve a lot of issues, particularly for families and children who experience a lack of financial stability or economic opportunity, have a parent who becomes incapacitated, or need to be taken care of by others because their parent was impregnated against their will and wanted to get contraceptives and/or an abortion but didn't have access to the necessary resources. I agree with >>625707
, too, and it's part of the reason why I don't plan to have children. I have to take the personal responsibility for the fact that due to my own flaws and inabilities I would not be a good enough parent to any child.
There are plenty of studies that clearly divide up trannies between delayed onset AGPs and young transitioners/HSTS.
They aren't girls btw, they're just abused kids who should have been allowed to grow up gay like they would have if they didn't transition. It's appalling that anyone under 14 could consent to that.
Based. Whoever's parenting those kids is negligent at best and abusive
at worst. I find it genuinely abhorrent the treatment for likely fleeting confusion/mental illness is physically damaging and life altering. In what other setting is that the practiced norm?
I am not saying kids don't deserve help or don't need therapy, and it is hard when 80% of therapists on my insurance prefer to work with kids. The general mental health waiting lobby is all kids and like 2 adults/teens since i started going.
I had already been assaulted at 14 too. It's one of the reasons i was looking for therapy and meds in the first place, but it got disheartening when every service was geared torwards small kids and all the adult ones were booked full.>>625788
I thought it fit, sorry.
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>>626053>it’s leGaL I consulted with my lAwyeR! Check AND mate>>626046
Like clockwork(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
I really think it is
privilege. Some people have such supportive families that they'd basically have to murder someone to get cut off, but some parents will cut off their kids for any reason.
If you've always lived with a halfway decent family, it's hard to imagine how much it sucks to come from abusive
Agreed. If anything, people like Eugenia (as much as I respect people's right to do what they wish with their bodies) would turn people away from idolizing that kind of body, whereas kpop glamorizes it.>>626119
A lot of cultures teach people to see homeless people as less than human, sadly.
People don't understand that it's the subtle skinny that turns girls onto proana shit, not holocaust-tier. A normal impressionable teenage girl would look at Eugenia and think she's fucking disgusting.
I used to be very judgemental when I was younger, then I started to understand it, was more tolerant, and now I'm judgemental again because
I understand it, I just changed my perspective on the very same things. I feel bad about it but it just makes sense to me (sorry for being vague lol).
Where I live, there's no such thing as opting out of your legal obligations as a father. Not just monetarily, but the kid has to live with you part time as well unless you're abusive
>>626106>I really think it is privilege
Not always. I had an abusive
childhood and I've never resorted to drugs or other harmful behaviour, I don't even drink alcohol. Sometimes I look at other people who had similar experiences and I can't empathise with them because I don't understand why they would make a bad situation worse.
wait most anons aren't into that guy? I feel like I've seen more praise his looks than bash him
not my type at all but I guess he has pretty colored eyes. you do you
There’s literally a video of him kissing a 14 year old
Why would that be an unpopular opinion anywhere? It's 2020, what valid
reason is there to defend a monarchy, and a functionally useless one at that?
It honestly depends, if someone is venting about something retarded, they should be treated like the retards they are.
But if they’re venting about something serious, it’s better to at least give them some words to cheer them up.
I agree tbh. Sometimes arguments can be funny but most of the time they get out of hand + the fact so many anons get triggered
for lack of a better word and snarky over the smallest things. Theres no point in trying to argue with people here, It never changes anyones mind.
I think it's a big reason why so many anons (including me) want to stop using this website.
I get that. I'm talking about people who are just shitty and not for humor's sake. Like for example someone posted in the vent thread that it makes them sad that their parents never went on a vacation in their life because they had work day and night their whole lives to support their parents and make ends meet for their kids Someone decided to just go "No one told them to have kids and stay at their shitty jobs"
Like, what was the point of that? Or once, someone was venting that their dog went missing and that they were staying up every night literally vomiting worried sick about them , and someone went off on them for allowing it to happen. The anon responded saying it happened when someone was watching her dog for her while she was away, and then the other anon goes "stop adding to the story to justify shit".
This happens all the time and it's the dumbest, most second-hand embarrassing thing in my opinion.
I agree. Honestly I do judge women who enter and stay in abusive
relationships and think in most cases they are to some extent complicit and that it does reflect some kind of character flaw/personal failing they have.
this is victim
blaming to a T
i disagree. any codependent couples will have an abusive
partner dynamic and much of the time it's the man. i recently encountered this and it was terrible. she seemed so broken and refused any advice, turning the blame onto others and praising him. even after he did terrible things to her that caused her to break down in public crying for hours.
Right, but they're painting these abusive
men to all be 150 IQ machiavellian psychopaths with a doctorate in behavioral psychology. And when I talk to these same men, I just see overcompensating boring people with anger issues.
I just wish these women could admit they're terrible at picking men, it'd help them be more self aware when getting into future relationships and they'd avoid all this stuff they needlessly put themselves through. Instead they get coddled with the narrative "you couldn't have known", they believe it, and refuse to reflect on their own judgement.
But do you guys realize they're like that because of the abuse going on during the relationship? Not to mention any possible prior abuse, mental illnesses or even just being insecure. I'm really not trying to pick a fight, but obviously women in abusive
relationships who chose to stay or have a pattern of being with abusive
men are not of mentally ok. The first anon literally said the woman was codependent on her bf. Plus the fact that sometimes the abuser can hold things over the victims
head (money or blackmail for example). I feel like there's to much that goes into these abusive
relationships to just say "well why doesn't she leave or stop dating guys who are abusive
I think it's strange you guys think a woman of sound mind would chose to stay in relationships with abusive
men. They obviously have bad judgement.
Having bad judgement, being insecure etc would be a ‘character flaw/personal failing’ though. And it’s not that simple that it just magically all starts because of the relationship, like I feel like if you would even allow yourself to be in a position where someone can
hold money over you head to blackmail you that’s extremely stupid on your end. It doesn’t make them any less victims
but there’s definitely things they could have and should have done differently to prevent it. The majority of people in abusive
relationships are not mentally ill to that extent where they’re incapable of being responsible for their actions and decisions.
Idk which op you're talking about but I don't think my post is what any of those anons were saying. If I'm wrong though, then my bad. >>626764
Again though, this all happens cause these women are not of sound mind. I didn't say that they "magically" gain those issues because of the relationship. Yes, sometimes women have issue BEFORE they enter an abusive
relationship, and that contributes to the fact that they pick horrible men. And after the relationship they usually have more issues than before.
I think it’s weird that if someone kept entering and staying in friendships where they were being abused everyone would rightfully call them an idiot and question why a grown adult would keep making these decisions but when it’s a woman in an abusive
relationship we’re supposed to just never question it and coddle them about how they ‘never could have known’ and that ‘there’s nothing they could have done’ when there almost always was something that could be done.
Okay but in most cases of people ‘not being in sound mind’ unless they’re like clinically insane people still consider them responsible for their own actions and decisions. Most women and people in general do, have, or will struggle with mental illness in some capacity and most still don’t enter abusive
relationships. There is obviously some degree of personal responsibility and personal failure in these women’s actions.
In my experience there's usually some fucked up self-hate thing going on where she can semi-subconsciously tell the guy will be abusive
that's why she chooses to date him because she has low self-esteem. If you try and set her up with a guy who's not an obvious shithead she's not interested since she lowkey thinks she doesn't deserve a non-painful relationship. Same goes for men who can't stop dating women with cluster-b personality disorders over and over again. They p much seek these partners out. Almost like outsourcing self-harm. Sad stuff. When I lose my patience is when kids are involved though.
Shut the fuck up. Holding women who aren't clinical retards accountable for their own acts of self-harm isn't victim
blaming. No one is saying victim
deserved abuse. I'm tired of the victims
are innocent angels who can do no wrong narrative. I'm fucking tired of women who crawl back to her abusive
scrote for the literal 15th time and we all have to pretend that she isn't complicit in her own suffering. Women who stay in abusive
relationships have high likelihood of imparting generational trauma onto her children. Fuck my mom for thinking a narc's approval was more important than her children's well being.
Lol your fake caring about muh aboose victims
sure went fast
So many of the abusive
/shit person red flags are plain as day, especially online. I really do think some folks only put up with abusive
people for as long as they do because they like the attention or are romance sick by shitty media that tells them that they're only doing it because they wub them. People throw away their integrity for the pettiest reasons. I knew a guy that knowingly entered a sexually exploitative relationship with a known abuser simply because they were in the same fandom and shared a fetish.
Some people are so starved for affection and attention that they'll knowingly kowtow to abuse just to pick at the scraps of 'love' they get afterward. It's a win-win for them. On one end, they get to be seen as the blameless victim
and never called out for their lack of self-esteem. On the other, they still get to sop up the few crumbs of validation their abusive
partner throws their way. Even when the relationship ends, they'll either go on to another abuser or sabotage a relationship with a good person because they aren't used to not being treated like shit.
Source: A person who's lost a few friends because they valued the short-term coddling of an abuser over reality.
Men are opportunistic and will change their 'preferences' based on what fuels their ego. They'll always loudly exclaim how much they wanna fuck conventionally attractive so-and-so or how they'd never fuck ugly so-and-so in public, but come clean in private. Case in point, dusty guys that clown women's selfies in their comments, but then slide into their DMs.
Ment's tastes in sexual partners are largely performative. They just want to show off how sexually valuable they are for the homeboys to cope with the fact that men overall are the real pick mes.
My stepdad is a literal pedo who watches teen porn and cheated on my mom with a 19 year old fat dorky girl in Nevada, I moved out not that long ago but my younger sister said she kept catching him staring at her. I hate her for being with him, not to mention all my sisters are 12 and older, he wont even let her work, and his bum ass wont work, theyre destitute. why the Fuck is she with this creep it pisses me off, i do not admire meek and homely women who risk the safety of their kids. >>626791
If some lady wants to ruin her own life for an abusive
man, fine. But the moment she lets her kids get dragged into it, she's trash.
Agree. I have a hard time believing anyone who says they're a child abuse victim
online now because so many fucking twitterfags straight out put that as some kind of an achievement on their bios and keep bringing it up. Also seen people talk about having been in an ~abusive
relationship~ for clout when all of it is falsified and the relationship has been completely normal.
To be perfectly honest most of the girls into DDLG that I've met I can totally believe that they've been abused or at least groomed but the ones clearly bullshitting it are usually people trying to get out of facing the consequences of their shitty actions or milking for attention. >N-no anon, I have a perfectly good reason for pocketing charity money and being an absolute fucking sociopath! You see I was actually ABUSED as a child..
Or the ones trying to get some sort of a moral upper hand during a debate.>Why I'm clearly more knowledgeable at this subject and my feelings are way more ~valid~ than anyone else's here and thus might as well speak over their experiences, you see as a survivor of CSA….
I was like this when my mum was beating me throughout my childhood/teen years. My brother did drugs and was always in trouble so that was my connection with drugs.
It wasn't until I was settle in a job and living on my own and took myself to Amsterdam when I experienced drugs. I suffer bad anxiety and depression because of my adoloscence and someone recommended me weed. So I tried it where it was legal and it was life changing. Now I use at home where its illegal. No one would know I take it unless I tell them. I think it depends on the mindset of why people use drugs. Some want escapism and some people want help. Everyone is an individual.
I mean, we've got a lot of self admitted autists, bdpfags, anachans, lolitafags, neets, weebs, bipolarfags, depressed femcels, radfems, neets, poorfags, twitterfags, /co/fags, channers in general, instafags, pullfags, discordfags, youtubers
, tradfags, expickmes, sex work anons, trannies
, kiwifags, facebookfags, and a whole slew of other shit I'm probably missing. Like, at this point we should just have our own version of:>WHERE DO YOU THINK WE ARE?
The only ddlg-chans that Ive met were 1 IRL and on Discord
IRL one pretends to be a baby while being 26 and surronds w sanrio aesthetic, including babytalks because she is too desperate for attention and validation from men to a point where her own friends casually call "an incel towards women".
The internet one was a NEET who dropped off mid school and a big nutcase. She stalked her african bf that broke up with her to a point that she keeps trying to make bew accounts on socmedia just to try "seducing" him again or baiting that she's super suicidal and started sleeping around again, while at the same time she keeps lying to people that he was a huge abuser towards her (because he had actual friends to spend time with) and everytime he joins some discord server she makes sure to talk to admins to kick him while not givibg any proofs. She was so obsessed with controlling him to a point where she would threatnen to commit suicide if he talks to me because during that time she cut his friends off him completely.
Sure, because smart and competent people never abuse.
Those are the most dangerous, ime.
blaming is such an overused term. most times in destructive relationships there isn't simply one victim
and one perpetrator, but rather two equally shitty people making each other worse. however bpdfags can't handle having their self centered world view questioned so they will deny this fact. >>626795
hard agree. i've made posts about this before, i can't believe how much some people fetishize sexual abuse (especially towards minors). they should be called out, that shit is triggering
demonic quads says its true
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People who still draw MLP in the year of our lord 2020 have something wrong with them and its a huge fucking red flag, the biggest red flag of them all.
Its either a sexual deviant predator or an uber autist.
Sad thing is that shit is often intergenerational, you will swear now that you'll never put up with abuse yourself but without therapy you are still more vulnerable to fall victim
to it. I don't know what dynamic your mom grew up in but we unconsciously do recreate the same relationship dynamics we witnessed as kids.
I draw MLP because I've been watching them when I was 9, still finding them adorable even though I stopped watchin after s3 and I am really good at drawing cartoonish animals….i guess i wont post my drawings on foreign social media
I thought that brony fandom or hows it called is dead? Didnt the show end 3 years ago?
Yeah, and thats more or less the point, the only one lefts are usually the sexual deviants and autists.
I think its different when its women who grew up as horse girls, but i honestly look down on all pony art at this point because of association.
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Men get shit on for having no standards and fucking anything that will give them the time of day. Rightly so. But I've realized just as many women have zero standards.
Every day on any number of boards, social media and all that, I see women saying, "Omg my bf is so perfect and I adore him except for the teeny tiny fact that he beats me/calls me a dumbass/fucked my best friend/steals my money/jerks off to porn all day/is a slob and lets me mommy him. But I love him so much how can we work it out!??!"
Women are legitimately asking these questions as if they deserve a microsecond of consideration. If that's what they want to settle for, they lack self respect as much as men who fuck STD-ridden troglodytes, but at least guys get what they want and move on. The women keep enduring abuse because they're THAT desperate for even the smallest measure of affection. We're on a board fucking dedicated to the worst of womankind, yet so many people here seem to have a mental disconnect and believe women are morally superior somehow.
Nah. The majority of people on this entire planet are desperate and dumb as fuck, regardless of sex. Everyone needs to love themselves more or some shit.
Women irl do not get shat on for having standards. This literally only happens with incels. I feel like most normie women express very having high/specific standards but the in reality end up accepting a lot less, kind of like with men.
>Meanwhile it is socially acceptable for men to fuck as many women he considers "trash" and then settle down with a virgin stacy.
What world do you live in? Obviously I agree the social/physical (pregnancy) repercussions of casual sex are harsher for women but some older man after having a slew of casual relationships expecting a ‘virgin Stacy’ would be a laughing stock to any woman and most men outside of manosphere online spaces. Normal men find virgin women older than 20 pretty weird anyway it’s not particularly a desirable thing and it’s even a dealbreaker for some of them. I feel like so much of what women say about ‘men‘ here is often only applicable to like men on /r9k/ and sound like they’ve never met a man irl in their life.
>>627137 > Omg my bf is so perfect and I adore him except for the teeny tiny fact that he beats me/calls me a dumbass
I was in group therapy years back and I learnt that this is what CSA victims
grow up to be. If the abuse is anything lesser than the abuse they grew up with… then he's a catch.
My phone does that automatically and I'm not going to go back and change it because it triggers
you hun kek
NTA, but I do find that women tend to "put up" with a lot more in relationships. Infidelity for example, married men are more likely to cheat, but also more likely to say it's a dealbreaker if their wife cheats.
My uncle cheated on my aunt when I was a kid, I remember everyone making excuses for him and thinking she was crazy for "giving up their life because of one mistake."
Yeah I am too Lazy and why would I care if you can spot my Posting style? What can a You do to me?kek
And you need to work on your self esteem if you can't even handle being disliked on a ANONYMOUS forum.
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i dont know what youre referring to but i am a big fan of that red sauce that looks like candy which you dip chicken balls into
I looked up the recipe for this once and that sweet and sour sauce is basically ketchup and sugar
. Go nuts.
And a bit of vinegar for the tang, but yep, it's mostly a sugar sauce with red dye to make it bright.
Addictive stuff though.
We are talking about the red sauce. Brown sauce ingredients is this post >>627212
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It’s kind of hard to find a good picture for what I’m talking about but I love that thing where people have darkness around the edges of their lips and always wished I had it. I didn’t realise it was considered a flaw.
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Pigeons are cute
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Chick-fil-a is completely overrated.
never usually get into this because it seems genuinely unpopular, but from what i've seen, truly actually genetically blessed + cultured + well groomed, well bathed men (especially in past decades, i feel like younger men today overall look shittier and aren't as "well made" kek) truly do physically look their best in their 30s. i do not like how juvenile men in their 20s, and god forbid literal teenage boys look, plus they are not mentally matured at all typically. a very small amount seem to physically look the best even in their early 40s. but i also think women look the best in their early 30s so it's not that i think uwu old men so hawt women hit the wall XDD i guess i just prefer more chiseled matured faces, more stable people and i'm just not into the overly youthful look on anyone when it comes to being actually sexually attracted to them. i'm also not a teenager so i cannot stomach the thought of finding any 16-19 year olds of any gender "hot" or sexually desirable. and to clarify again, i'm not talking about your typical ugly beerbelly losers, my comments about men strictly apply to above average, aware of their appearance, well educated non hopeless males (which i know are very scarce, but i've seen a few.)
And also, in regards to women. I find women more attractive when pregnant/after childbirth, whether they're in their 20s or in their 30s. I haven't gauged this opinion anywhere, but I'm guessing it's unpopular.
Asking as someone who had a kid early on this year, my hips got wider, and then my ass got flatter. I have huge cowtits now , i feel like I no longer have a waist and my hair is falling out, i lost my baby weight but I till feel like one thing just wont
change. I do like that my limbs aren't all swollen like they were when I was pregnant
im surprised people know what age groups are most attractive in general like where else do people even discuss this lol for me i will see a boy and think they look good but bc im 20+ i would never look at some young kid like that because that’s just weird
I can't explain it, I just feel the larger breasts and wider hips tend to make other women more attractive in my eyes. It's probably on the level of a fetish with this preference, I'm not sure, but it's the way I feel.
It's not all women, but most women that become mothers are more attractive in my eyes after becoming mothers.
If women weren't visual, yaoi wouldn't exist, and Tik Tok e-boys would have no female fans.
It's a cope by/for ugly men and women with low standards babying them.
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Chicken is boring. I don't understand why it's so popular.
Chicken is the best in noodle or rice dishes, boring on it's own and inferior to other meats in burgers, pizza, etc.
Though I do love roast chicken with bbq sauce on white bread and butter.
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Lobster meat should be served without the shell. It's too much of a hassle to cut/tear open the carcass and dig out the meat.
It's also sad to see its eyes staring up at you from the plate :(.
When you're lesbian people do expect you be visual though.
Seems to just be a way for men to say "see I don't need to groom myself or diet, she wants me just the way I am and doesn't even care about me looking good for her"
I remember saying to my family after getting sick way too often two years ago, to the point where it costed me jobs I even passed out in the middle of a job interview in the phone, then I woke and threw up the entire following week week
that it would be nice to wear masks like in Asian countries so I wouldn't have to catch 309787690987 viruses from costumers and people in public transport and they looked at me like I had two heads.
The majority of people are disgusting, and I always hated how it's encouraged to send your kids to school even if they're sick or to force employees to go to work even if they work in restaurants and manipulate food with their disgusting hands all day long.
But they had their containment threads and never really ventured outside of them so I don't see the issue. Maybe it's just because kpop and anime are in the same category in my head.
Also, the yaoi thread is cringey enough to be on the same level as the kpop threads to me honestly.
This reminded me of my ex and his weirdly relaxed attitude to spreading vomiting bugs. I woke up one Xmas morning a few years back and said goodbye to him as he was heading to his parents house with his son to celebrate the holidays. I had planned on going to see my own family but within an hour of waking I was hit with the worst stomach bug I've ever had. Spent Xmas day and two more days after that alone and camped out on the bathroom floor unable to even keep water in me. Both ends, glorious. I texted him to let him know and for the first day he somehow read that description and thought I was exaggerating and that I simply had anxiety type nausea??
After a couple days he was due to come home bringing the son too and I told him I was still very symptomatic and afraid I was contagious. I advised he stay with his parents a couple more days and said I'd disinfect everything in our apartment once I was feeling better and before his return…but nope he came home early with the son. The three of us shared one bathroom.. he even took a long shower one day and let me nearly knock the door down in desperation before he came out
His son (12) woke up with pain in his stomach the next morning and rather than heading to the bathroom he came in to wake us up, tell us about it and then he proceeded to projectile vomit all over our bed. The next day he was still having symptoms but felt well enough to go out to a cafe and an arcade with the dad…? The day after that he had symptoms still and the dad dropped him back to his moms house where his other siblings including a 3 year old all caught it and were in bits for a week. I have no idea why it's so hard to just prevent spreading something like a stomach bug in particular. Stay home and let it fucking pass. Who even wants to risk public vomiting or shitting yourself? I was happy to isolate myself for a week and see it through alone
Anecdotal experience here but before covid (mandatory masks everywhere), I was getting sick at my office job at least once a month. A particularly annoying senior woman in the cubicle next to mine was always sniffling and claiming "allgeries" but I was always getting sick.
Ever since masks, I haven't been sick in several months since. Dare I say,the best streak in my adult life. Miss lady at work mysteriously doesn't seem to be suffering allergies anymore, and she also was moved to a position where she's basically hardly at her cubicle now. Hmm. People are germy and nasty. I dread covid being over and everyone goes back to bad habits.
Are you the sperg who constantly invades the fujo thread to bitch about how much she hates BL? Sorry your oppa gossip threads got taken away but just accept the L and go. >>627989
This. The autism toned down remarkably since the k-pop threads got removed.
Yeah the Netflix marketing was awful, but I dislike how it's being extended to the whole movie.>>628173
Your lack of reading comprehension is showing, that or you're horrifyingly naive.>>628198
Not bait, just a French woman who's tired of good old (American ?) puritanism that'd rather sweep these societal subjects under the rug rather than acknowledge them and try to make a difference. >>628211>>628212
Intelligent anons, thank u>>628211
It's pretty good, very "modern French film about the suburbs". Am also French and have NA family, I couldn't really relate to the subject matter because I was raised in completely different circumstances (and with good role models) so spending so much time on the Internet didn't fuck me up too much. But it's crazy to think how slightly different circumstances could have led me on this path. It makes me think of Zahia, I was 11 when her story happened and it really shocked and fascinated me.
Et coucou je suis toujours contente de voir des fermières (mdr) françaises !
Meant to quote >>628177
>>628249>Your lack of reading comprehension is showing, that or you're horrifyingly naïve
I can read just fine, and I meant what I said. I literally do not give a shit what high praises you want to give this movie, pedos die and pedo peddlers die too.
>Who cares if…
Fucking disgusting. All of your other points are moot.
I never grew up in banlieues but my parents were always incredibly strict, if I told them in primary school I was hanging out with male classmates during recess they'd lose their shit and my father would call me and my sisters whores sometimes for no reason. They're not even extreme Muslims, they're just weird about girls just living their lives in a normal way.
I was always aware of how fucked up the internet is because I grew up with teachers warning us about very real issues like how giving too much info about your personal life and real identity can get you in trouble with stalkers, pedophiles, and later on with you bosses at work but I was such a dumb repressed teen I learned English just so I could read super vulgar slash fics and talk to other nerds on livejournal. Now the internet is so normalized that kids and teenagers don't receive that education anymore, I guess it's up to totally clueless parents to teach them online etiquette and how to stay safe.
I don't know if I will 100% relate to the main characters but with how little accurate and respectful representation French girls and women of African origins get in French media I don't care anymore, I want to see more stuff about us. Putain ça y est, je parle comme une SJW maintenant mdr…
>who's tired of good old (American ?) puritanism
I'm sick of Americans complaining that a French-Senegalese woman talks about her religion and past experiences in a movie that was made for a French audience specifically like it should be applied to them.
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100gecs is fucking terrible even from an annoying synthpop view, that troon can't sing for shit, I think they probably know alot of people in the indie music circle to have gotten this much clout.
I bet 50 dollars the tranny is a rapist.
Wow anon you are stupid and gross.
Documentaries work great at not continuing the exploitation of the underage subject… Plus there's no need to audition 650 kids for such a role
'surviving R kelly' was not a dramatization because that would be undeniably fucked up and counter productive.
Why isn't this obvious?!
I haven't watched the movie yet though, I would like to see it to make my own opinion but there's no way I'm going to theaters now when covid cases are even higher than during the lockdown. And I don't use netflix. Usually when French film makers want to raise awareness about some social issue they just put a famous white actor or actress in blackface, film some incredibly unfunny "comedic" scenes and then the protagonist goes like "aw I guess being racist is bad after all!" so I want to see if it's going to be more serious than that sort of shit as well.>>628294
Pretty sure it's not a documentary but just a movie with a fictional story. Correct me if I'm wrong though.
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BDD fags are worse than BPD ones.
They keep fishing for compliments and asking about their appearance but if you say one thing thats not positive they will start bawling about how ugly they are and that they should kill themselves because they are so ugly, and then you need to tell them they are oh so gorgeous for like three hours.
BPD bitches at least are fun at parties.
I thought this about the trailer but then I watched the movie on netflix and some scenes are a bit questionable- like twerking on a security guard so he'd let them past.
I don't think it was meant to sexualize kids and I don't think their target audience was pedos but in a sad turn of events it's kinda gone that way.
I feel really bad for the girls in it, not only have they been shoved in the centre of an entirely inappropriate debate about sexualization of minors but they've pretty much lost their acting careers now. Poor gals just wanted to be movie stars and now this has happened to them.. I think they're going to be very angry when they're teenagers and realise what's been done to them.
I agree with the opinion but the example with the narcissistic ex is shit as narcissists can be very charming to many people but shitty to a particular person (especially partners). They need the majority of people to think they’re great so they’re usually not going to abuse everyone. Also they have to be careful in picking their victims
as many people will tell them to fuck off and induce their narc meltdowns
‘Narcissistic’ doesn’t necessarily equate to saying someone has NPD though, it’s not intrinsically linked to the mental illness like saying “they’re so OCD” is
Replying late but no I'm not and I didn't read the thread thoroughly enough to even know what you're talking about. I also don't use the kpop threads so…I don't know what this whole response is about.>>628024
My point wasn't about who's thread is more active or who's more annoying.
Are you saying the ends justifies the means in this situation? It's not okay to sexualize and exploit these girls because it's going to make so many more people "woke" to their hypersexualization?>let's show how bad sexualizing kids is by sexualizing kids
In movies involving family abuse or murder, the children are acting and not actually getting abused and murdered. These girls are actually being sexualized.
Why the fuck do Frenchfags keep taking the moral high ground here and pretend its hyper-paranoid Americans being crazy about it like you lot aren't some of the most perverted people in all of Europe? It's honestly ridiculous to see Frenchfags weasel themselves out of this.
Plus Black American and Latin American girls face similar issues to ones North African and West African migrant girls would. Stop.
kek in general anons who feel fine about this movie like >>628317
we all understand the issue but this is not the way to do this. the girls are being sexualized after the idea is to not sexualize… and sure its acting, but to think this wont effect them psychologically at least is retarded
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you think 3/4 of the people who use social media are full blown narcissists?
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I agree seeing that these acts are in the movie. I'm not sure how anons can defend this. I suppose the director of Cuties wanted to spread a positive message but making borderline child porn is not the way to do that.
I wouldn't say all of them are, but I've always found the idea of posting countless photos of your face really weird, especially for the people viewing it. Like we already know what you look like, so how are we supposed to be react? I've always found it cringey when they do those videos of them posing in front of the mirror and making faces like they're in a fashion magazine - that's the type of shit you do in private. It's embarrassing to post it online for thousands of strangers to see. Like come on, have some dignity.
On a related note, my dad referred to selfies as "selfish" the other day lmao. He didn't do it on purpose either because his English isn't good
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This is an anon from the vent thread. Anyone confirm this is the content of the movie? If so I'm embarrassed anons are defending it.
I mean, considering literally everyone else is talking about it and arguing about their interpretations of it, I don't think it's just me, lmao.
I heard it was at the front page of Netflix or something. That didn't come from nowhere. Like, what is this incessant need to lend free, daily advertising to something disturbing? Can't you just report it and go? If Netflix didn't want to remove it after multiple complaints, people were still given like half a month or something to forget about it, spam it with shitty reviews on IMDB and Rotten Tomatoes and let it fade into obscurity and fail (as it should, if it's so disturbing), but they're still going. Spamming everywhere. Why do this? Do you actually support that kind of thing?
I hope you realize the issue isn't that they're talking about the over-sexualization of girls. Movies and tv shows don't have to show the exact things that are happening, a good movie should know how to use implication. The children in that movie shouldn't have been used like that, imo. >>628570
I just assumed most people got their information about the movie from plot summaries given by other people. I see what you mean about people giving it free publicity, but I think that's just the nature of the internet, if that makes sense. When something controversial happens, a lot of people talk about it. It will go away soon. Also, wasn't the movie released in France first, if so it makes sense Americans would be talking about it now.
I completely understand your point, and I'm sure the actual movie was shot in a way to convey the message, but I still think it's inappropriate. Like, if you saw vid related, would you think it's in any way ok for girls to be doing this? It's no different when the actresses do it just because the movie is semi-fictional. >Also the actresses are teens, not pre-teens.
That doesn't make it better, it's still gross when teens do it.
Yes let's hope so too. I've only read about the main actress (Fathia Youssouf) but from her interview she seems very well adjusted and with a supportive family. I also hope the actresses' personal situations was taken into account in the casting.
Also I think people here are greatly exaggerating how explicit the movie. It really is no worse than 99% of Tik Tok.
Calm down SpongeBob text tard, I was asking a question. Anything with 10 year old crotch shots and twerking on fully grown men is nonsensical to defend. You can make a movie bringing these issues to light without exploiting children further.>>628580
I agree to some extent. It doesn't make it right ofc, but it's normalised. I think the issue comes in when it's adults putting children in this position under the guise of awareness. If they're simply inept when it comes to handling the topic delicately, they still have to accept responsibility.
I'm this anon, just got back from watching it.
The biggest problem with Cuties is that men are able to watch it, IMO. All the issues stem from the fact that pedophiles are getting off to it either way, ignoring the message and intent. I "understood" it, and some parts hit close to home emotionally and culturally, but it's just not something that can be shown to a wide audience.
The story also leaves a lot of loose ends, outside of everything else.
I tease my bf for liking white girls, it doesn't really bother me (I am hispanic)
but then we didn't really like each other at first and we were pretty good friends before we got together or started liking one another. To each their own. I don't think it's weird to have preferences as long as they re not gross and fetish like if a White girl talked about bbc
in front of her white bf or a guy talking about yellow fever shit
in front of his black gf, those people are weirdoes and shouldnt even be with anyone imo.
There had to be at least
one such reply, predictable.
Pizzas have more whiteknights than any other food.
>>628379>Plus Black American and Latin American girls face similar issues to ones North African and West African migrant girls would. Stop.
I think we all know that, but it's annoying when you can barely see yourself in media and pop culture so the closest thing is watching movies and TV shows about other people in another continent with many small but important differences just because you can draw a parallel. And French people in general has a love-hate relationship with the USA, it's really nothing personal. On twitter the main complaint from French people I've seen in the whole controversy around Cuties is that Americans have mini-miss contests and if anything they should be able to draw parallels between the movie and their own pop culture instead of shitting on the movie like that shit doesn't happen in both countries. Let's be real, both countries have flaws when it comes to how children are treated.>>628388
I heard there's barely any north africans in the USA and they're technically considered white because of some census bullshit so if they face discrimination they can't legally do shit about it. I think there are way more of them in Canada, especially in the French speaking part of the country, but that's just according to a few Canadian friends. Correct me if I'm wrong though.
When I hear people saying they settled with some random person I'm like, why.
Because it's responsible yet cosy. There's a great deal of sunk cost fallacy of when it takes so long to find someone who you feel comfortable living with, who you can be yourself around without being annoyed by them, share all the chores, enjoy hanging out and have the option of sex but when it works it frees you up to focus on other areas of your life like your career and hobbies.
Psychotic eros like >>628627
sounds really good but I could too easily let everything else slip chasing it
Pizza is the Ninth Best Thing in general according to people who voted in this video, and the top Thing among all Food.
The Best Thing is sleep
(It totally is.)
Okay but why did they have to cast actual 11 year olds? For high school movies that are also 'coming of age' we're used to seeing older actors and actresses who are usually 18+ and no one ever thinks their maturity isn't convincing or detracts from the message of those movies. >whoever watched it and thought it was erotic/sexy has some sort of problem
Welcome to the predatory world of male pedophilia….
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Tomato is superior in every way
you're just a pussy
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Most men if not all men are pedophiles.
Yeah, I'm tired of him at this point. Same with Joji. I hate that sad boi shit so much, but teens eat it up.
His fanbase is the worst for sure tho. They were terrible when he started out with the edgelord shit but ever since he went hard with the gay pandering they've gotten worse.
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Highkey want to take shots with all the infighting going on
This is a terrible opinion! How can mac and cheese be dry…too many breadcrumbs? Would also recommend adding mustard and using some mild cheddar for a more complex flavor profile. Absolutely one of my favorite foods.
Although the box stuff where the macaroni is very soft and has this uniform orangey sauce…gross.
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I hate caramelized onions so fucking much. A literal blight on earth, so nasty. I don't like them.
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Ok this is a staged Instagram post I guess but I think it can look quite nice if only part of the hair is dyed those colors
I think it's pretty, especially when it's perfectly-styled wigs or professional dye jobs. Never understood why/how people would think otherwise.
My first exposure to it was through seeing models, dolls and anime characters and stuff, though. Already-attractive people who just happened to have unnaturally colored hair. I guess if you saw dirty/trashy people with it first, the association with unkemptness and grossness makes more sense.
Is someone saying this is a problem? Kek why would anyone buy clothes they can't wear?
I guess some people buy clothes to resell them, but that's gotta be a small percentage.
Why do fatties never consider that their size is sold out because other fat people
buy them out? That issue always seemed fake to me as well, because it is. It's them being angry they didn't get their way and projecting their anger onto skinny women.
I mean, if they’re so mad about normal sized people buying big sizes, why not just make their own clothes? I’m sure there’s a bunch of stores that sells fabric at decent prices, even on the Internet there’s fabric at decent prices, why not learn how to make their own clothes if they noticed the “problem” with the amount of clothes they can buy?
If they’re not even trying to lose the extra layers of fat, maybe they could learn how to cover them.
There's no reasoning with people who want
to be mad and blame others
Her face is already kind of gross and unbalanced, and her personality just makes it more absurd. Simps don't care about her face as long as she still has breasts attached to her chest, though, and she knows that very well.
You can't look like the Amerimutt meme and
be a mentally ill, racist pick-me. Pick a struggle. Like, at least
be on the same level as Doja Cat if you're going to be filling the internet with garbage (I know Brittany's not actually biracial, but she was pushing herself that way for a while, lmao).
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her eyes are too far apart
Depends, most men I've met who prefer older women usually treat them respectfully, men I've met who date way younger women end up in toxic
Why just this film, and not American media like >Toddlers and Tiaras >Dance Moms >Jake Paul/other famous youtubers. Jake Paul specifically had a porn star on his channel for one video. >normalization of the consumption of pornography>essentially anything that their own kids are doing or seeing on tik tok or anywhere else on the internet. Charli D'Amelio is around these girls' age (14-ish) and she does dances on camera in a bikini. How is that different?
I do not recall any of these having such a huge backlash. Those forms of media just allow this sexualization to exist. Charli D'Amelio has been featured on talk shows, and Jake Paul is just dismissed as some idiot youtuber. This film at least makes a point about it - it's a story about social acceptance when coming from a conservative background, and the emotional turmoil that results from that, as well as the fact that this particular group of young girls who are at the cusp of being adolescents are so eager to "adult" themselves that the only way that they can bond is through acting like full-grown women, which they obviously are not.
So you're saying it's okay to sexualize kids (through a massive media channel no less) because people are going to sexualize them anyway?
Just because people do it doesn't mean it's okay to allow it.
If this is really the hill you choose to die on, then godspeed, pedobait movie simp-chan.
Also lol at anon thinking Toddlers and Tiaras doesn’t get shat on for exploiting children.
and JAKE PAUL isn't hated by everyone. >>629862
Tbh a lot of people don't truly care about the childern on both sides. They both want to make this into some deep political debate.
They just stole it from us, I refuse to let those annoying cunts ruin the word>>629601
She's cute with straight hair
Just because there wasn't an outrage over things in the past doesn't make them okay in the present. There were a lot of things that nobody gave a shit about that are illegal now…a lot of things.>>629881
Children don't have to actually be sexualized to condemn it. As >>629873
said, you wouldn't make a movie condemning animal cruelty by actually being cruel to animals. There are other ways of doing it.
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on one hand I'm happy that y'all is being recognized… on another… twitter
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QAnon believers may have something to do with it, but the vocal hatred of the film was quite literally spearheaded by the American "Parents Television Council", an organization founded in 1995 by a conservative Christian activist specifically to target "inappropriate" and "not family friendly" material on a mass scale, several times a year.
>The council launches several media campaigns a year against the producers and advertisers of television programs they perceive to be indecent. A typical campaign involves press releases declaring a particular program harmful (often with a list of "unacceptable" character behavior or situations), the organized mass mailing of form letters and emails to advertising sponsors of unapproved programs, organized mass filing of complaints via the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) website complaint form, and direct threats of long, potentially costly FCC license challenges to local network affiliates planning to broadcast what the council considers harmful network programming.
Not backlash to this level. And certainly not to the point where government officials are getting involved: https://www.deseret.com/utah/2020/9/11/21433256/netflix-cuties-sexual-exploitation-senator-mike-lee-investigation-attorney-general>>629858
There's nothing wrong with finding the movie inappropriate; it is. But to take such offence to it and not the countless other ways that children are exploited in America is hypocrisy.
Americans love to virtue signal and they love their righteous anger. I'm not surprised that this happened. >>629868>>629910
Thank you for these comments. Honestly, it wasn't nearly as bad as the stuff you see on tik tok (there was something called the "foreigner challenge" that was very real and much worse than the film) or even some stuff on Dance Moms/Toddlers and Tiaras.
>>629910>the disturbing parts were kinda necessary to make you understand how far it can go.
I haven't seen the movie but throughout all this discussion I just keep thinking, isn't the footage that horrifies normal people going to be the exact same imagery that titillates pedos? I feel like there's inherently a catch 22 about the whole thing, it would be difficult to disturb people with reality if you also want to avoid appealing to sickos.
Of course I'm assuming the filmmakers had good intentions and wanted to convey a message, not just get attention with shock value and controversy.
>>629912>the fallacy of relative privation
I get what you're saying, I'm sure there's virtue signalling taking place as there's always those kinds of people. But I've watched society degrade over the past decades and am concerned about all of those things. This movie although thinly veiled as an insight into childhood sexualisation literally sexualises the actresses at the behest of profiting adults. Children on tiktok are secondarily groomed into sexualising themselves
by watching older, more popular accounts. Which is obviously sad, and wrong (their parents should be monitoring them more). But Cuties was written by adults, for children to portray content that far surpasses their age group, which they are barred from watching themselves despite having a role in the film.
Just because children aren't necessarily as innocent as they once were doesn't mean we should lay on the adult concepts thick so they can do our activism for us. Exposing children to sexual concepts at a young age is exactly how grooming functions and it is literally in the very definition of CSA. Why is that morally acceptable because the premise of the movie allegedly seeks to condemn the phenomena? The outcome is still the same regardless of what strings you attach. You can't disavow pedophila whilst making fap material for pedophiles, nor can you deny responsibility for compromising children for the sake of a message.
The fact this movie is even available to a large audience is indicative of the times. (And yes, I understand if children weren't growing up so fast the film wouldn't physically exist. I just don't think we should give up on innocence in its entirety, or simply because concepts that should have been handled delicately weren't). The end doesn't justify the means.
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Meh, romanticizing pedophilia has always been a French thing anon.
I’ll give your insane fixation on this minor controversy a more thoughtful response when you display some understanding of the fact that just because some conspiracy nuts latched onto this with an ulterior motive, it doesn’t negate legitimate gripes with the content/marketing.
Why do people think the solution is to ban the film only?
Why aren't there any petitions to keep children off Tik Tok, IG, etc? Or ban child beauty pageants, put a severe clamp on the child modelling industry, end Toddlers and Tiaras and Dance Moms, call for stricter decency laws on music videos, jail Dan Schneider and all others like him
, put Bill Clinton, Donald Trump and whoever else was on Epstein's island flight logs behind bars
It's very easy to look at one thing and make it out to be the only problem, but all these people are pretending the actual issue will disappear if they stand against this film.
Funnily enough, I'm sure if the themes were presented as a positive, fun thing the way a show like Dance Moms does things, people would be defending it left and right.
I agree and tbh i hate minimalism in general, the push for capsule wardrobes makes me my smaug soul tremble, i own like 200 different pieces of clothing and seasonal stuff aside i wear almost all of them.
Owning shit is fun, collecting is fun, as long as you’re clean, not a hoarder and spend moey healthily i see no problem with having a fuckton of shit.
ugh, thank you anons. clutter is comfort for me–and i'm not talking HOARDER levels of clutter but just… "i live here, it isn't a hotel or a rental" clutter.
if there aren't little decorations around, it all feels empty. i love my kitschy shit.
this is exactly how i feel. i have tons
of clothes but i am not a slob and i rotate them out and store them in vacuum bags. if anything having to juggle my many possessions has helped me become better at organizing and storage since i have to find places for it all.
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I don't think this is very unpopular but I wish it was socially accepted to go out with graphic, artistic makeup like this. Imagine walking on the street and everyone has beautiful things drawn on their faces, so pretty
I think the reason it's become so popular is a normal reaction to consumerism, and the desire for a more ecological lifestyle. I think capitalism and consumerism push down an ungodly amount of stuff on the average person.
The actual Konmari book is terribl for the environment though, she basically "trash literally 99% of you possessions" and she gloats about having clients throwing away (not donating or anything) hundreds of trashbags full of stuff.
I like minimalism but agree that konmari is dumb. The whole idea of only keeping what sparks joy is stupid as in that case, most people would throw out the majority of their necessities. Her defenders say “well cleaning supplies might not spark joy but what they help you achieve is what’s joyful” um no, I just don’t want to live in a dirty house lol. Also the dedication to her unnecessarily specific way of folding clothes and storing things is cultish
Her Netflix show was disappointing, most of the people on it were hoarders and she just taught them to organise their hoard. I know minimalism wasn’t the goal but a key part of her system is decluttering so yeah, dumb
I feel for you anon, I'm going through something similar as an only child. My mom had me at 40 and every year I can see how much her health is deteriorating.>>630188
I'm glad you had a good experience with it, but in general most people I've met with older parents had problems, especially if they were only children like me. Lack of energy to spend time with children, health problems, generational differences, etc. I don't think people should have children just out of highschool either
My mom was sick for ten years before dying and that left me with depression where I've acheived poorly in life, now my dad looks set to have a similarly slow dementia fade and I just want out already. I can't go through this again. I've had no life myself.
I feel your pain, it's too much weight to have on your shoulders this early in life. It doesn't feel natural.
One thing I wish was brought to American audiences was the concept of respect for items though. It's been a while since I read the book but I THINK I remember a passage about how in Shintoism, inanimate objects still have spirits and Marie's grandmother took great care of each item in the house, cleaning and dusting it. It seems like the only concept that could be digested by American audiences was "If it doesn't make you happy, trash it!" but nothing about showing respect for your items, and by extension, yourself, by cleaning and organizing. The number of things you own really isn't a factor. I definitely get that the spiritual aspect just doesn't apply to everyone, but I'm always so grossed out seeing my friend's anime figures for example covered in a cake of dust. You paid so much for it and love it so much but can't keep it clean? It's disrespectful to the time you spent working to pay for it, and by extension disrespectful to yourself.
So I guess I agree that just trashing stuff has no value, but what does have value is a lot harder to teach.
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The only difference between /co/fags and the fujos/husbandofags here, is that /co/fags like to larp as men. /co/ is also just /trash/lite
I can't say I've ever noticed people talking about punching kids and I read /r/childfree all the time. Must be a yt comment thing.
Somewhat related, but I hate people describing someone as having a 'puncheable face'. First of all, what kind of psychos feel the urge to punch people based on their looks? Second of all, there's no specific look or trait that could be described as 'puncheable'. I see it used almost exclusively for women, particularly women who aren't particularly conventionally attractive but aren't ugly enough to warrant a normal insult. It's such a bizarrely aggressive and pointless thing to say.
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I hate oppossums. whenever i see one near my house i want to scream. all my friends think they're paragons with prehensile tales but I cannot abide possums. they are NOT cute, even if their gross little feet look like they're wearing fingerless gloves. ew
Anon wtf. You don't honestly think the ones starting up southpark or husbando threads are /co/omers, right? Ffs there's been sofia the first threads thirsting over Frederick and even barbie threads with some crossover from /toy/ since it's a dying board
. Hell in the rapunzel threads, self-admitted lesbians assuming they're not just larping scrotes or trannies
thirsted over best girl cass. /g/ anons were probably the ones sperging about their rape fantasies over the eltingville boys
I don't think there's anything wrong with being disabled. Trying to fly under the radar is futile since it's pretty obvious that you're not normal, be it the disability or people assuming you're the worst person.
It probably is. There's a only fan thot local to me that loves to play the biracial card, she needs to fake tan to look ethnic and it shows in her horrible only fan photos she spams now. Maybe she has a big enough following someone will recognise her she's pretty easy to trigger
online. She got popular because she over shared about her dating history (just being a slag no one respected), then she got an Asian boyfriend and has been emasculating him constantly on the time line. She loves ethnic stereotypes so she loves to drop her boyfriends ethnicity a lot because he actually doesn't look white.
Nta but given they were born with autism and it's a constant in their life.. maybe they just go through life not feeling the need to disclose it very often. It's their norm.
I meet autistic people where I work, it's usually an unpsoken thing where I pick up on it and it might eventually get dropped into conversation. I have a female relative with it and given she lives alone she doesn't like to disclose it often because it can make you a target to people who just assume you're soft or easily preyed on because of it.
I unironically believe that guys start to calm down more towards their 40s when their biological clocks start ticking, their dicks start to malfunction, and they realize that women their age won't so easily take as much shit as they did when they were younger and more naive.
Source: Literally have been present when older men have discussed what dicks they were in their 20s and early 30s.
Not everyone appreciates random animal shit in their yard. Cat feces can carry disease like
toxoplasmosis and other parasites like ringworm, it's not fertilizer. Why should anyone have to deal with domesticated animal shit from another person's pet? Expecting other people to just be okay in dealing with it is entitled mentality. If all cats bury their shit, then it shouldn't have been noticeable enough for neighbors to have spotted shit in their yard in the first place. Cats do not always bury their shit, and I say that as someone who's owned a cat.
Btw people shoot raccoons who habitually go into their yards to eat and poop because they can bring rabies with them and damage property for their dennings.
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Anon I need your address. I feel a giant dump brewing. I mean, no land is actually your land right? Don't be entitled now.
I agree with you. Americans can be so fucking autistic, it's like they don't live in the real world. I swear their government could start enclosing them under domes in plastic homes with fake, plastic gardens with flowers that spray nerve gas and play AGP sissy hypno recordings on loop every hour, and they'd unironically defend it and say everyone else in the world is dirty, close-minded and disease-ridden for not doing the same.
And then they'd shoot other Americans for trespassing on each other's plastic lawns because "muh land", yelling about "freedom".
My pets don't leave my property, anon.
You need to understand that when you live anywhere near nature, animals shit. They do it wherever it's convenient. If it's not the neighbor's cat, it's a raccoon or whatever else.
You can't stop it from happening. That's life. Needlessly killing them for not understanding your arbitrary rules is retarded. It's a waste of time and bullets.
If this vexes you, just live in a city and take care of potted plants instead. Try not to cry too much or brandish your gun if you run into bird shit, though.
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This is probably only an unpopular opinion amongst kibbefags but not all gamines are cut-out for having short hair. You have to have some degree of attractiveness and a face that matches the gamine description
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How many times a month do we have this conversation, just check the last thread for the conclusion of this fight
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Makeup doesn't make most women look that different. I never get why people will show pics of a woman without makeup and say how different/awful she looks, she always looks basically the same to me and still cute
Shit like pic related is an exception
Normal things include conversation. Normal people don't struggle with communicating to the point where it looks like a personality disorder.>>630976
This is the first time I've brought this up. Maybe you need to stop thinking everyone is the same person.
The thing is old people have much more available to them>Chances are they got to buy a house without worrying about their credit score>They were easily able to buy a 3 bedroom house 20 minutes away from where they work for a low price>Jobs were easy to get even with low experience>School was significantly cheaper>Old people now have Medicaid, welfare, and are more likely to get government assistance and on top of that if they didn't buy a house when they were younger they can find extremely cheap living facilities and communities to live in
On top of that most boomers suck at budgeting, and don't even get me started on boomers who work at fast food restaurants just because "they're bored and want something to do"aka taking the job (and tips) away from people that actually need it
Have you never met a boomer before? What "narrative" am I trying push? Statistically very little boomers are legit poor so it makes sense that more people mostly know wealthy or well off boomers despite "the kind of person they are", whatever that means>Do you realize most of the privileges you mentioned in your post were afforded to mostly white men?
Not true, my hometown is a retirement community and had the highest income out of all other counties, boomer women still take up most of these privileges and a lot of blacks and Hispanics. That being said most American boomers are white so I don't understand what you're trying to get at
>>631266> my hometown is a retirement community and had the highest income out of all other counties
that’s it! that’s why all the “boomers” you know are wealthy! because so are you!>>631267
but misogyny made it more difficult for older women to succeed, even if they are white.
He rules facebook, nobody I know cares about facebook.>>631326
Yes and no, yes not all boomers, as when people discriminate against any group they don't mean literally all, but there's no denying rich boomers really did a lot of damage to the economy, on top of that overpopulating America
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The boomer rich just happen to be the current assholes, previously in the 1930s it was their parents. And the cycle will continue with their children, and their children's children. It's called being the ruling class kek. All you need to do to cause mayhem for the system, and us by extension, is have superfluous amounts of wealth and then remove it from circulation (or flood it into circulation).
I disagree, hbecause in my country they have dog taxes precisely because of people who think like you. Not everyone likes pets and/or is a scat fetishist as much as you and some people work hard in their garden.
Either keep the cat in or don’t make it shit on my shit.
let me fix that for you
Hmmmmmm, I agree on the stipulation that you modify it to:
American guys > British guys >>>> the rest of European men
British guys are a step up, that's for sure. European men are just fucking gross.
Implying theres zero difference between west and east european men even though culture and history is almost completely different. Also what's so good about British guys, except for the idealized image of a british guy from some dramas or whatnot?
This said, women are better everywhere.
Australian guys>American guys>North/West European guys>East European guys>South European guys
South European men tend to more often than not be manchildren that still live with their parents.
How many different men from Europe have you met that you can generalize men from 40+ different countries and 40+ different cultures and histories like >>631526
Aw, where have you come across them? Have they been outdoor bunnies or people that keep them in their cage/don't interact with their bunnies? My bunny free roamed until he picked up this habit of chewing giant holes in my carpet, now he hangs out in his condo until I get home from work when I can watch him.
He's always climbing all over people when they come over and kisses and chews on their clothes, follows and circles my cat, and thumps, grunts, and charges at me whenever I try to get him out of a space he's not supposed to be. Just no fear/fucks. It probably has to do with the environment they're in, because other bunnies and bunny owners I know that interact with their pets say that they're similarly "brave." Apologies for bunny sperg. he's not all bad. he comes when i call him, knows his name, gives kisses, shares fruit with me, and is so adorable and special… even though he is a Demon.
When women say physical touch is their main love language I take it innocently and at face value, because we all know that a woman's intimacy tends to not be so self-centered.
When a man says it however, I'm wary because it's usually code for "I'm going to paw at you constantly and not do much else because other types of love language take active effort and all I care about is my base pee pee desires."
Aww now i want to adopt one too
I had similar concerns, that they aways seem so scared in homes and better off in the wild
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Aw! If you do, they're a lot of work, but also a lot of fun. ♥>>631629
That definitely makes sense, poor lil things. I'll definitely give mine regards from you, anon, and those buns are in my heart.
I'll leave you anons with my bun, we wish you a good day!
If you haven't heard of the book or the concept, it's not your fault–it's a specific thing.https://www.5lovelanguages.com/quizzes/
I agree. Not because of "gender roles" or whatever, but I hate seeing men who are like parasites. Obviously some SAHMs can be gold-diggers too, but usually women are SAHMs cause it's traditional. Men stay at home cause they want to be leeches. obligatory "not all men!!!"
If a woman is in a relationship, the dude has to either be making the same amount as her, or more than her. I feel like that's how it should be. Why settle for men who make less?
The first guy I ever dated came from a family where the dad was a stay at home dad. He did the bare minimum.
That bf turned out to be pretty workshy too. Worked a crappy job when I met him and he tried to use a disibility that I have to argue that he should become my full time carer… I don't need one, I'm not that fucking disabled. He just wanted free government money every week for doing nothing.
Because men just aren't raised and conditioned to be homemakers or feel pride in it, so it's likely the case they really are just bumming at home. Instead of doing chores, spending quality time with the kids, preparing meals, or really doing any kind of thoughtful domestic management.
I can't think of one instance where an acquaintance had a "SAHH" willingly…it was usually because he got fired from his job or quit suddenly. Tbh whenever I hear a guy is stay at home I assume he's low effort and is putting his woman through hell trying to support him.
Not saying there isn't exceptions. They're just very rare.
My friend had an unplanned baby where the dad disappeared as soon as he heard she was pregnant. She was determined not to end up on benefits and ended up going back to work when the baby was only 3 months old.
She paid my mom a very modest childsitting fee and they did that til he was in school. Looking back I don't know how she could handle doing that. I still remember how tiny he was when she first dropped him off
It was already saturated no? Tons of companies were using tech support and code from india and such even with a lot of compsci students and bootcampers available.
The positions that pay well require experience and a lot of knowledge, i think these will still be in demand.
I'd say if you're gonna have a kid and you don't have the kinda income to get daycare/nanny, then you better have an extended family (i.e. granparents) that are willing to do some of that. Depends on the industry of choice of the parent, but I imagine if you're out of most fields for over 5 years you're never going to be allowed back in so, age 3-5.>>631743
A parent becoming financially dependent on the other and then inevitably being hit with empty nest syndrome when the kids are done and that parent has nothing else to turn to later in life? Yeah.
>>631711>In one or two years the IT market will become completely saturated and it will cause a crash and burn of that sector
This has been said for at least 10 years by now and it still hasn't happened. A good share of companies quit outsourcing to countries with cheap IT labor (like India) because they realized how costly it is in the long run compared to developing it locally, especially because user interfaces have been improving in leaps and they can't be done for your
native clients by some random engineer in Delhi. Outsourcing can be done for busywork that a bunch of underpaid borderline code slaves can stitch together but it's limited to Big Companies with massive amounts of data. The clientele today is much more varied, everyone from Average Joe's Car Parts Store to the biggest retail chains depends on it. Saying "the IT market will crash and burn" is like saying "the house building market will crash and burn". It's not going to happen, people need IT solutions more than ever because it's now an integral part of our society. It's not like people will just suddenly say "this IT shit is stupid, let's go back to paper and pens".
And just because you can write a simple application doesn't mean you can actually code your way to an actual profession. That's why I wouldn't recommend people to go into it just for the money. Programming is a hard career and it's not for everyone hoping to make a buck, you constantly have to learn new things, crunch modes are more of the norm than an exception, you're required to know multiple technologies and
design just to start your career, you need to be available at all times and be able to function under tremendous amounts of stress at times. Nowadays it also requires good people skills as most projects are done in teams with constant communication. Plenty of people quit because they just can't handle it and developers tend to have a short shelf life due to all these issues. Good money =/= Good job. It took me years to get my foot in the door (admittedly partially due to being woman) and more years to reach a seniority level where I don't feel like dying every time I'm assigned a new task, but it's still worth to me personally and to me there are no signs of the the market collapsing in decades. You just have to keep ahead the trends and develop a good eye for what's the next direction the market is going to go to.
Source: I have a decade's worth of experience in the field and I'm sick of people trying to claim "the IT bubble" is going to burst just simply because they're jelly of the salaries.
Humans naturally do that because are brains are unable to process every single individual on this planet and its part of an evolutionary process to recognise common distinct differences to better process human relationships and to facilitate communication.
Stereotypes aren't necessarily bad they can be very useful, it's obviously a bad thing to use identifiers such as sex and ethnicity to discriminate, but it's also useful to be able to have common factors to group large demographics for medical reasons etc. Not everything is a conspiracy
We can abolish gender roles>>631850
You realize it's the genderspecials that are actively stereotyping womanhood right?
What's that? You pretended to be Barbie's mommy as a child? Must be a tranny.
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People who eat boneless chicken wings are stupid children, they’re overpriced chicken nuggets covered in hot wings sauce. Why would you actually pay hot wings money for nuggets?
Accusing anons of being a scrote should not be an issue, it's literally just the board culture and has been for years. It's just the bants, stop taking it so personally>>632012
More like trying to get back at society telling women to settle down and stop enjoying life when they hit 30 because they're officially old.
Hard disagree, I was an ultimate loser in my early 20s but in my mid 20s I started to work hard to improve myself and now I'm a couple months from turning 30 I finally feel like I'm where I want to be.
Still if you keep beeing an useless bum your life won't turn magically great once you approach your 30s.
>>632096>spent too much time browsing imageboards believing that they will hit the wall in a year
I strongly believe normie women irl who don't browse imageboards perpetuate this idea as well without being malicious. I rarely hear guys talk about incel concepts like the wall irl, but I constantly hear young women whining about how old they feel, like "ommgggg I'm turning 23, I feel so old!!" "I'm 28 and unmarried, my life is over!" etc. It's a vicious cycle because if a young girl hears shit like that from other women, she will internalize it and act the same way when she turns whatever arbitrary age is supposed to be bad.
Anyway shit like that is good reason to be loud and proud when you feel happiness and confidence as you age, to try and break that cycle. It's complete nonsense and most women grow out of it, but it would save girls in their 20s a lot of wasted time worrying about nothing.
>>632109>it would save girls in their 20s a lot of wasted time worrying about nothing.
Exactly. So many girls go neurotic over worrying about aging and not "achieving enough". They assume that at 25 you have to have a good degree just so you can get your career started soon enough to securely start pushing out babies at 30, then live out your life for 20 years juggling between work and your family until you can start having hobbies and interests again. Shit like that isn't expected from men at all and it's no wonder so many women in their 20's are panicking over it because it's being enforced everywhere.
30-40 year old women are just sort of forgotten and pushed away, like Nicole Kidman speaking up about how she was prepared for her every role to be her last because nobody wants to hire actresses past 28 and Liv Tyler saying that by your mid 30s the only roles available are just wives or moms, secondary characters with no real purpose. We should aim to collectively break that cycle and assure younger women that no, their life doesn't end at 30, they can wear the shit they want and keep their dumb hobbies if they bring them joy. Even in fandom spaces older men are looked up as wise mature daddies uwu but older women are seen as weirdos who should get a life and I shake my head whenever girls in their early 20s buy into this stupid meme and start forcing it themselves. Honest to god seen 21-year olds
lamenting over how "old and spoiled" they are. Like what the fuck?
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A lot of women have children because they feel that's what they're supposed to do. That's the point. Also even though a career woman for example has kids it shouldn't be the identity and focusing point for them, you can focus on talking about their successes without making it from the "here's how she combined work life and family" standpoint. Like female politicians are always asked about their pregnancies, husbands and kids, not their actual achievements. Like pic related is what you get when you google search Kamala Harris.
Nobody's saying "all women have kids only because they've been conditioned to do so". You're intentionally misunderstanding the point. The point is that women are consistently expected
to settle down, give up their own life and start living for their families. Some women do it out of their own ambition, but there are plenty of women who have their passions elsewhere but are too afraid to pursue them due to societal pressure.
>Most men want kids too and there’s supposedly not as much pressure for them.
For men children are more of a status symbol than something they're expected to cherish and live for anyway. It's a reoccurring and well known problem that many women are stuck in a relationship where the man is dragging his feet when it comes to having kids because "he's not ready yet".
>don’t see why career women talking about their experience balancing a career and family is ‘pressuring’ other women to do the same.
Because there are no alternatives. As tumblrish as it sounds, representation matters. When the only stories you see revolve around this settling down idea you start stressing out if you should follow suite like all the idealized people you read about. Even if it's just the people in magazines it still affects the way you view the world around them.
It's also not only
about the pressure of having kids, like I said, it's the pressure of giving up your ambitions as a person
to become "just a wife/mother/girlfriend". How many male magazines talk about improving your marriage/relationship compared to female magazines? It's only one example anyway, bottom line is that women aging past 30 aren't often portrayed as individuals with interesting hobbies, career goals, achievements and so forth. >>632188
Also you're samefagging, at least try to keep it subtle.
I'm nearly 30 now and the only reason I worry about age is because of fertility. I don't think it's discussed enough or options. And now that woman are generally waiting for financial stability and starting to try for kids later it's hard to find accounts from woman conceiving naturally in their 30s.
We've also got now surrogacy being bastardised and IVF. Older women are shamed for being the reason of birth defects but older men rarely get criticised when it's their spunk that degenerates over time, women just have a finite amount of eggs. Every time sperm is created the DNA inside the cell is copied. As a person ages their DNA gets copied into each new cell that regenerates and it's during this process mutations and error in the DNA code can happen. That's why older people get hit more with disease over natural wear. women's eggs are formed in vitro and get activated over our menstrual cycles. Evolution has accounted for aging in this way. There's actually more evolutionary evidence that women should have more male partners since sperm competition actually exists and it increases likely hood of conception and it's literally the battle of fittest sperm wins.
A bit off topic but yeah, the only concern I have is waiting it out to have a family and my body failing me.
Magazines exist in an online form you know. That's besides the point. Or would ~online media site~ represent better terminology?>I feel like there’s sooo much ‘girl boss’esque media that encourages women to pursue their careers and education as oppose to settling down.
What the fuck?
>>632007 >Anons saying they didn't start liking life until their 30's
I posted this exact thing yesterday so I don't know if my post played a role in this but I definitely wasn't giving out any life advice when I stated that.
I had depression in my teens and my twenties and it just happened to clear around the time that I turned 30.
>>632238>It ties you to a place and limits your career opportunities
This has been my cope but the reality is I can't afford to travel with my shit wages and I'm too busy paying my steep rent to put any further energy or time into advancing my career. In order to travel freely without paying additional rent you also need to have either almost no possessions, pay for storage or have family that are privileged enough to have enough space to look after your things.
I would agree with all your points in situations where rent is proportional to what you make, but with the low wage and underemployment that most people our age face it's just not true most of the time. Instead renting is just burning away all of my money so I will never be able to save up enough to buy a home.
Yeah please! I've started saying woman instead of girl in conversations and it's really ~ empowering ~
And from a EU fag stop calling your vulva a vagina i hate it so much.