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>People who are currently 25-30, what is your unfiltered opinion on people currently 18-24?
I don't think they realize how good they have it with technology, but at the same time nowadays the internet isn't nearly as fun as it used to be, it's just way more convenient than before for homework or paperwork.
And what's that purchasing power forecast? It's for a specific year or period of time? I'm guessing it's about the USA specifically given the sources. >>594727>They're also super nihilistic in comparison to millennials
I really don't have that impression at all, they give me the impression of just using sarcasm, self-depreciation and irony as a sense of humor because that's what's "trendy" online, on TV shows, in movies, etc. so since they're used to that they're grew used to expressing themselves this way. I'm not saying they're particularly optimistic but they're not at the opposite extreme either.
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>People who are currently 18-24, what is your unfiltered opinion on people currently 25-30?
The weird obsession with harry potter is retarded, why is a not-that-good book for kids so impactful? Look i was very into percy jackson and the olympians when i was twelve, it was fun to say hoho im daughter of x god but still doing that schlick in my 20s-30s? Its like having no personality.
Honestly thats my overall impression of the majority of millenials, most people over 25 lack an individual personality and resume their existence to a specific hobby (Vidya or sports usually) and media they consume (harry potter, MCU, NBA), my college classmates are 18-20 and they seem more much more like fleshed individuals with a wide arrange of interests than millenials.
I see them as not being "entitled" but taking some things for granted without realizing it when they're really recent phenomenon that changed almost everything in our daily lives, like what I said about the internet for example or you could even say that about cell phones.
Many kids and teenagers act like things were always this way, when I told my youngest sibling who's in high school that when I was her age our parents couldn't check my grades online because the official website for that didn't even exist she was shocked and a bit jealous. What happened with kids getting stuck at home and having to do their homework online because of the quarantine wouldn't have been as simple as it was like 10 or 15 years ago. Not saying it was simple but it could have been way worse. If you had a shitty sense of orientation 20 years ago you couldn't use google maps on your smartphone either, small but impactful stuff like that. We also used to pirate everything when she was just a baby too because everything was either on TV or nowhere else.
>>594744>The weird obsession with harry potter is retarded
It's because of the hype when waiting between new volumes. I haven't read Percy Jackson but apparently according to a lot of people I know irl and online it wouldn't have existed or had that much success without HP because HP was basically a trendsetter. I'm not into reading these days so correct me if I'm wrong.>>594747
The internet is literally just TV 2.0 at this point, I don't think it's a big difference.
personal sperg- millennial fuck wit here, never got into harry potter (was into pokemon…) never understood the hype and thought the books were just terrible "Said so and so! snape said Harry said Ron said". No that doesn't make me 'unique and cool' because I didn't like it, I know this haha it was weird seeing kids go "I'm house this! I'm house that!" anyone who says the are gryfindor are often major SJW fags, Hufflepuffs are autistic turds. No one is ravenclaw or Slytherin. Anyways the kids who liked it tended to be more book smart and extremely awkward when you talked to them. Obviously just a lot of kids wanted to feel 'special' and excepted and to be told they are meant for greater things without having to work that hard for it. After all, Harry is just a super good wizard chosen one. yeah his friends help a lot but he is the chosen one.
Percy Jackson has it's own problems breeding massive snowflakes and the author certainly doesn't help."can Percy be Hispanic because I want it to be that way?" "yeah sure, anything you want, btw, the greek gods are black too despite the ancient greeks not describing them that way! did you hear about my cool Muslim Valkyrie? Sorry I the one native character has feathers in her hair :(" no clue if he'll go the way of rowling though. You can only pander so much.
I think the millennial generation got pushed with the participation trophy stuff (that sounds right wingish, sorry), I remember it a lot from childhood. Lost, not even close to getting an actual placement? don't worry, heres a ribbon for trying.
>>594746>The weird obsession with harry potter is retarded, why is a not-that-good book for kids so impactful?
Millennial here. I agree with this. I stopped giving a shit about Harry Potter at like 13. Didn't even finish the final book despite buying it kek. I don't really have an explanation for this other than general nostalgic attachment to something that was considered "generation defining" during a pivotal time in our early childhoods.
>my college classmates are 18-20 and they seem more much more like fleshed individuals with a wide arrange of interests than millenials.
Not 100% sure why this is, but my guess is that it has to do with you guys having a much wider variety of options available to you in terms of media consumption. Everything was also much more interconnected for you guys via the internet than it was when I was growing up, so there is more crossover within communities, leading people within those communities to become more aware of and develop related interests. Like, my teen years were primarily spent subsisting on cable television, Myspace and DeviantArt. Y'all have/had Facebook, Instagram, 4chan and other imageboards, Twitter, YouTube, TikTok, Vine, Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Video, Pinterest, a bazillion different gaming platforms, etc.
I agree with you, now if you're into video games you can check a let's play on youtube to see if you worth your time and money, you can easily buy consoles and games online, you can download games legally very easily even without a credit card (just buy a prepaid card in a video game store and type the code on the eshop or ps store), meanwhile back in my days if you weren't checking websites you had to buy video game magazines and buy whatever you could find in stores because downloading games wasnt really a thing yet, or you had to rely on word of mouth opinions before purchase, barely anything was localized for Europe and in languages other than English, region locked consoles were the norm, etc.
For series you had to not miss episodes on TV or you had to pirate on shitty websites making you wait 72 minutes to see the next 30 minutes of an episode. You had to watch whatever you found online that wouldnt make you computer explode or on TV and if you're nor happy about it then fuck you. Series and ads are more prevalent on the internet now. Spoilers were less of a worry for that reason though.
How are zoomers "super nihilistic"? They're uptight crybabies who start sucking their thumbs the moment someone says something slightly controversial and limit their activism to shitty twitter takes. >>594753
This post is like the living proof of the claim that zoomers have a nonexistent attention span rendering them unable to be passionate about anything and they're all about surfaces and constant stream of fresh stimulation for the next 8 seconds.
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That actually makes alot of sense, when I was 16 and saw skins gifs on good ole tumblr i could easily go and download the first season to watch, people younger than me can just pop netflix and watch it with no hassle, boom another chunk of media to make up the angsty teen personality.
Imagine it being like 2007 and you actually had to go and find a dvd to buy, that sounds rough.
Are you a ravenclaw buddy?
Ok sorry, but I disagree.
We aren't hyperfixated with one fandom because we have so much stuff to pick from, yeah I can enjoy some netflix show but im also watching other 3 different shows too, I take what I like from them and go on with my life.
Being obsessive about media doesn't add anything to your life, even the community sense from fandoms is gone and they are competitive toxic
It's the boomers bitching about Millenials because they think getting burnt out over working 2 jobs to make rent payments and being offended by grandma saying the N word is being a pissbaby. Millenials definitely have their flaws but zoomers are so tightly tied into social media and form their whole view of the world around how it works that it's sickening. In other words where Millenials were raised with the retarded participation trophy mindset zoomers believe they're great and allmighty influencers with followers. Because that's how social media manipulates you to think.
I also hate how people think Millenials are the current people aged 25-30 when it's more like people aged 25-40. It's a much wider range and basing every negative Millenial stereotype on the behavior of the people born in 1993-1997 is almost shitting on older Gen Zs instead. >>594787
Gonna disagree here, their social activism and identity politics come from a place of vanity, following trends and virtue signaling instead of genuinely wanting to make the world a better place. It's a rehash if the 1960's hippie culture.
No one thinks 'cancel culture' is meaningful and the only people who really engage in it are 14 year old twitter stans. The people most 'obsessed' with cancel culture are the loser 28 year olds who love referring to themselves as 'extremely online' who never log off and are constantly complaining about it.
>I think it's much more healthier to be hyper obsessed with your personal hobby
Personal sperg but why is this sentence so off-putting. Idk what it is but it just makes me cringe like literally every millennial raised on 4chan talks the exact
same way. Whenever people start with the 'muh personal hobby' I just want to get away from them. And their 'personal hobby' is always like anime or videogames and they're obsessed with and like 'ship' characters from in their 30's like how is that healthy or 'interesting'… it's creepy and embarrassing.
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I'm sure a lot of Millennials could relate to wishing for a Hogwarts letter once they turned 11 or hoping their letter was just late. The appeal came from growing up with the characters, I think. The big-budget movies helped a lot to rope in those who didn't read good.
I agree though, when you grow up you realize the writing and stories aren't that good. I honestly confused stuff that happened in fanfiction with the actual story because they had better writing!
I wasn't into Harry Potter while growing up in the 90s. Rather, I got dragged into that shit a few times.
Is 'popular and profitable thing isn't all that good' and 'this other lower profile effort that makes no money is a lot better' a generation specific complex or constant throughout human history? I run into it way too often.
Anyway I'm a millennial
My view of zoomers is pretty positive I think? Things like trolling trump on tik tok and shit is something millenials couldn't get our shit together to do. I don't think our generation has pulled something like that? Also they just seem less depressed. But it could be an age thing. What I don't like about them is the facetuning and heavy makeup and wannabe influencer girls that all look exactly the same. At the same time though it must be tough on their image to be hit with fake edited photos multiple times daily. For us it was only a problem in magazines and such. Also the new pressure for injections.
I also want to shit on my own generation and say I fucking haaaaaate when millenials make The Office or Parks and Rec or some shit into a personality. Also hate when they have no passion in life, no hobbies, don't want to get anywhere or grow, and want to live inside a bubble and become so boring just like their boomer parents and like they just gave up on their life.
>>594715>People who are currently 18-24, what is your unfiltered opinion on people currently 25-30?
I always thought milennial extended later than that, up to ~40.
I feel like milennials have a big persecution complex, like they took the news articles complaining about millenials and decided to turn that into their entire identity. I also agree with how they often have a wierd obsession with turning media into their identity, like Harry Potter or the Office. I think a lot millenials have a poor sense of identity in general and latch onto external stuff to define themselves.
Also I feel like millenials are rapidly turning into 30-year old boomers as they realize they aren't really the dominant force online again. I've had so many 30 year old guys unironically tell me how much better anime was back in the day and shit like that, with zero self awareness.
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>>594748>had items with the word "adulting" printed on them
Shit like that is always a red flag no matter what age you are.
1997 gen z-er here and i agree with every damn thing you have said holy. not to be "not like those other gurlz", but i hate how tied to social media zoomers are. really annoying when you hear people quoting posts they heard on twitter and preaching them back to you (or talking in twitter slang or quoting or ripping all their jokes from tumblr and twitter word for word istg)>>594803
also i feel the same as you, so my view of millennials is that theyre pretty much the same as me i dont see a real diff
i would argue that i.e. class differences affect people more than generational differences. and "gen z" and "millennials" are pretty close in age (at least the ones born in the 90s) so the differences aren't even that impactful or big.
and duh, ofc people acknowledge that there are differences between generations and are aware of them, but it's quite frankly strange to see people on the internet dissect it like this and categorize it… there is a difference between acknowledging that people younger than me have a different relationship with technology and making these strange generalizations such as "X generation is entitled because they read harry potter". literally no one except people who spend way too much time on twitter analyze this stuff based on anecdotal evidence.
get some fresh air. get a grip.
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Turned 22 a few months back. Really feel like I don’t fit in with the millennials or the zoomers. The older millennials have young kids and the younger millennials are a bit more advanced in life than me, even if we graduated at the same time. Zoomers are still teens so obviously I can’t relate to that either. My parents not being huge into tech when I was a kid made me feel like « a 90s kid » even though my childhood was during the 00’s.
It sucks not feeling like you completely relate or fit in with a group. I just moved out, I’m finding my place in the world and trying to be optimistic despite the state of the world. I consume plenty memes but still remember when all we had was rage comics and videos with 1 million views being insanely viral.
TL;DR: too old for zoomers too young for millennials.
god this is so true, it's scary to think that if i was a teen right now how many cringy things i said/did would be memorialized for the world to see. i am so, so glad i'm older at this point>>594910
i agree anon! i feel like people that are currently like..22-24 are stuck in the middle of gen z/millennials like >>594943
pointed out. we're not zoomers, we don't care about tiktok or fortnite but we don't have our shit somewhat together like mid-late millennials, it sucks
Maybe not, but you are
the only one autistic enough to make a post about it.
God the millenials who say "I love zoomers they trolled drumpf by posting fancams that's so cool!!!" make me experience so much second hand embarrassment. You're not getting any younger by licking zoomer boots.>>594874
Their only subculture is being a tranny because having an autistic obsession i.e. being interested in something for more than 2 days is "so cringeworthy like ew".
I mean the comments were always going to be biased towards the 'very online' type of people from either generation. This site and this thread is self selecting with zoomers that live online who have mostly interacted with Millennials that spend a lot of time online. A zoomer is more likely to have interacted with a Harry Potter obsessed Millennial than a Millennial obsessed with hoppy craft beers or Goat Yoga because of how their worlds intersect (or dont). Worth noting that earlier versions of internet culture have gone defunct or been swallowed by the increased agglomeration of the internet into smaller number of aggregator sites and apps. The internet of Gen X and early to mid Millennials is effectively gone. So yes its going to affect how Zoomers conceive of what internet interactions and culture were like and they can't contrast it to theirs.>>595007
Depending on what measure you are using the oldest zoomers have already graduated college and have entered the workforce. I have friends in this position and I'd worry they are in a similar position to older millennials who graduated into the Recession, my younger friends have been unable to find work. The US is potentially staring down the barrel of another recession and possibly the largest mass evictions in recent history so I'd be concerned for the oldest cohort of zoomers tbh.
I remember infographics like these from the time millenials were the youngest generation. They said Millennials didn't take well to any form of advertising and didn't have brand loyalty.
Well now it's obvious that companies found ways to appeal to them by learning to advertize online, a practice entirely new for them. No doubt they will evolve again and learn new ways to appeal to gen z too, that last row is going to change in the following years.
Agree. It's hard to compare because the milennials have already "developed" into adults for the most part, whereas a lot of gen Z are still teens. Aren't teens usually more rambunctions and extreme versions of their later selves as they develop more in their 20s? It'll be an interesting comparison in the future when you can look back and compare both generations as they are as adults in their "true" (?) form.
Anyway I'm born in '96 so I take traits from both but consistently I relate to gen z more in terms of humour and nihilism, especially because I hate TV shows like The Office and Friends and everyone who makes these shows their leading personality traits
>>594746>my college classmates are 18-20 and they seem more much more like fleshed individuals with a wide arrange of interests than millenials.
That's because the core directive of a "zoomer" is cherry pick from as many trends and hobbies possible to emulate a fleshed out individual without having any of the depth. Millennials aren't any better, we're just more transparent with our autistic tunnel vision.>>595086
Relatable. Please end my suffering anon.
a website i post on is like that. Everytime a zommer does something it's "omg so funny when i was their age i was such a loser!" yet half the time these kids are being insufferabe. Like a girl telling a teacher "you can't disipline me you don't make enough money" isn't cute yet the story got liked thousands of times on twitter with people calling her a queen???>>595155
I'm sorry but this isn't true. I keep seeing people talk about how woke zoomers are but they're just as racist/sexist as every other gen. Just because they scream about BLM on social media for ass pats it doesn't mean they actually give a shit. Get on any teen sub on reddit and tell me those little assholes are woke kek
My bf's little sister is a zoomer and she's the perfect replica of the highschool mean girls from 2012, just different fashion.
But she's fake woke online.
i was born in 95, not from the US
i have close friends who are older zoomers and i feel like they are fun and optimistic but its like they want to prove to you they are the doing the most all the time, if something sounds progressive/cool they jump on it right away and don't really question most of the info they consume
i agree with >>595153
they cherrypick trends in order to seem more authentic
as for my millenial friends i think they are more annoying with their interests and more depressed, the general feeling of not wanting to grow up is real, boomers (at least in my country) really pushed the "work hard and you will have your life figured out by 25" lie pretty hard, it didn't happen so they feel like everything was a wasted effort
i feel like 90s millennials and zoomers are pretty similar
is really weird how the boomer media fixated and was so annoyed with millennials, no one talks about gen x and the media seems happy with how gen z is going to become the "entrepreneur generation" for some reason (?), boomers project hard onto them
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>People who are currently 25-30, what is your unfiltered opinion on people currently 18-24?
I'm 30 and I actually love the younger generations. I can see why people my age might have issues with gen z kids, because they have this very chaotic vibe about them, but I think it's refreshing compared to all the millennials I know who are depressed parents with zero interests outside Harry Potter, their shitty kids, "wine mom" memes, and brunch with mimosas.
I do feel bad for them though, because there is so much more pressure to look good and be interesting nowadays. It was bad when I was younger, before social media was a big thing, so I can't even imagine it now. On the other hand though, they seem more accepting of people who are unique than my generation did, so maybe it's not that bad? Like, I used to get bullied for being emo in school but it's trendy to be an eboy/girl.
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I was born in '96 but I don't consider myself a zoomer OR a millenal. There are many arguments as to where year '96 can fall.
I heard there was an unknown generation smack dab in the middle. Maybe it's because we fall on the cusp and could potentially embrace either side, but I truly don't think anyone who is currently 23 to 25 right now can be called a zoomer and definitely not a millennial.
I grew up remembering 9/11 vaguely, I remember where I was when it happened. I don't use tik tok or any other stupid zoomer app with crack addiction-like attention whoring. But I'm also not a boring weak crybaby like millennials.
Does anyone else fall in the boat where they hate both millennials AND zoomers? I don't want to be associated with either.
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you know you can just…be yourself regardless of what year you were born in, right?
That goes for everyone in this thread.
God this is what I've been trying to say for a long time. Gen X'ers doesn't get nearly the same shit as the boomers. If anything they're enabling some shitty ass ideals and are equally worse as the boomers.
>unfiltered opinion on people who are 25 to 30
They're cool I guess. But i dont know if this applies to other millenials in other countries, but I wish they'd tone down the gentrification.
I'm a late millenial (26 atm) and I have a LOT more in common with my friends in their early 20s than people 30+. Idk why, but I'm not American and my country was doing really badly in the 90s so we lagged behind everyone a lot.
The OP image is really stupid though and I don't think people currently in their late 20s are the same as older millenials (30+).
OP>What's your opinion on…
>gives my opinion, asks others their opinion
>omg it's not about you, you're so insecure
shut the fuck up
Millennial here. I feel this thread is heavily skewed to a certain demographic, white american born people which I'm not a part of, but I'll throw in my five cents since I grew up in the US:
- People here think Genz is more nihilistic? My personal experience is absolutely opposite. Millennials were the generation that created the " be stupid" champaign, paris hilton, hipster culture, and the dating shows breaking viewership records while we were busy bombing an entire country back into the medieval era. I see millennials to a certain extent as a continuation of Gen X apathy, and Gen Z as least seems like they believe in what they are doing no matter how retarded or underdeveloped it is, it's nice to see people give a shit about something.
-I honestly don't think any generation besides Genz as a group really understand the ecosystem of the internet. I began to use internet heavily when I was 10-11 but I know Millennials that didn't really use social media until they were in their mid-late 20s. Throw into the the belief the internet would fix all of humanity problems that was so popular with millenial-era pundits and journalists, you have people who don't understand what they are doing on the internet, can't handle large amounts of information and just raped by social media especially on a daily basis. I know this sounds like a description of Boomers but seriously, I have seen many millennial that have meltdowns because they saw some badly made 4chan meme about jews or some other shit that triggers their personal sensibilities and can't just move past it and don't understand why the internet doesn't function like the TV and Print media they grew up with. I think Genz, while being more dependent on social media for communication, are also much more aware of the danger it poses to their mental health while millennials are just hopelessly lost.
-A lot of Millennials were raised in the late era of american suburban culture and are still obsessed with owned their dream house with a yard, cars ect while it seems to genz could give less of a shit as long they have their own room with internet.
- I think genz is more fucked with the continuing breakdown of social institutions + accelerating hyperindivuation that has plagued america for decades now, we had SJWS during the Obama era but there was no people identifying as nonbinary transbian autistic BIPOC marxists fighting with NaSOC adjacent free market liberation autistic /poltards on twitter, I actually feel nervous of what endgame this is gonna have in my lifetime. Maybe new social institutions thats can serve as unifying forces will emerge but besides boomerbaiting that everyone loves to engage in I don't see how/where that could be yet.
- I def see a dumbing down of the middle class, a new type of feudalism emerging based on education/intelligence as a result on people losing familial inheritance of intelligence building hobbies, interests and activities in favor of shit like harry potter, capeshit, kylie lip kits and other media consumption, but fuck knows if thats on any of us, Genx was doing that shit too back in the late 80s/90s.
I'll come back if I have any additional thoughts, this is an interesting subject.
I'm a millennial on the cusp of each gen and since I mostly date a bit younger I've dated 3 different zoomer boys. They have been fine people and nothing really stands out as being a big generational difference but my current boyfriend is 3 years younger and spends hours on tiktok which I honestly find unattractive, I'd rather he play videogames honestly. His household is on lockdown because someone caught the coof so I'm not juddging him too harshly for now but I hope he doesn't keep the habit once he's out of lockdown. On that note:>>595452
I have heard some very odd sexual misconceptions from these guys and it does make me wonder what sex and dating is gonna be like for younger girls. The guys I dated were all very vanilla albeit oddly misinformed, I wonder if there is a greater percentage of cumbrains among zommers.
I’m an older millennial. There are a few issues I have with the picture.
I’m more likely to browse the web before making any purchases.
I value quality and convenience. But quality always trumps convenience.
I hate wasting money on shitty things. It ends up costing more in the long run. Especially when you’re pinching pennies.
I only use desktops when I’m working or gaming. I type and work so much faster on a desktop than a tablet and smartphone. It mostly has to do with typing, having multiple programs and window-snapping while running on two different monitors.
My thoughts on gen z are that they are lauded as being digitally native and have high rates of digital literacy however all the members of gen z that I’ve met are woefully unknowledgeable when it comes to working with a desktop/laptop or digital literacy. The tide pod thing also wasn’t a good PR move. But their are idiots in every generation.
However, in all other aspects of life, I have no issues with gen z. They’re pretty cool kids.
I have more issues with boomers.
Sage cause I’m a dumbass
People who are currently 25-30, what is your unfiltered opinion on people currently 18-24?
What a Boomer tier rant. Anyway.
I'm only going off TikTok, my little brother, a room mate I once had and public sightings as examples of Gen Z, so it'll be generalised af. I see them in groups often just sitting together and occasionally showing a meme to laugh at together. If they're in a lovely place they'll be sure to take a nice photo of each other first then proceed to scroll. Christ I sound like a boomer, but it feels like such a diluted and unengaged form of social interaction. Also they seem like they're trying to create the illusion of depth, like the "alt girl" stuff or claiming they're the "main character". And a lot more emphasis is placed on creating their own "aesthetic" and looking like their lives are interesting than just chilling out and working on it organically.
Also they seem to be on a mission to be seen as the most woke. I mean it would be so nice to believe that they're the generation to wake up, but I've seen them nitpicking someone's video if it looks like they maybe began to lip sync the n word or cover their mouth, and it doesn't feel like they're doing this because they genuinely believe it's what needs to be fought against. They're bringing it up because they might get brownie points for being the wokest gen z in school. I mean the uhgyur camps, native american treatment, so so much and THIS is the hill they die on? This is the issue that NEEDS to be at the forefront? And the same with that fucking Doja Cat thing, most stupid cancellation I've ever seen. I'm sure the virtue signalling is good, but it leaves a sour taste in my mouth because it feels like it's just for clout.
When I was younger if you were openly vegan, gay, a feminist or even an activist then you were ostracized. I'm glad it's not like that these days, but also think it's odd that it's gone in the direction of focusing on non or super minor issues instead of very real, very big current ones. For the record I do think it's messed up that it's basically a rite of passage that an inflencer eventually comes out as racist at some point in their past. It should be unacceptable.
Regarding the HP thing I'm actually a huge fan lol, but I think it was a cultural phenomenon that wouldn't happen today because gen Z culture is so scattered. Not a bad thing, but the films themselves spanned I think 10 years, and each was as exciting as the last, and the ages of the characters were the same as my generation, so it felt liek we were growing with them. And the books, I attended every midnight release then spent the next days jsut devouring the book. I think back then the world was slow enough to allow this, and build and maintain hype over so long. Once it became more commercial and there were HP shops and they sold merch in Primark it felt overdone and I don't actually know a still obsessed HP millenial, but that's just my experience.
I wonder what gen Z will be like in the future. When I was a kid visitng relatives I had the choice between reading, looking out the window or helping with chores. I had to constantly go over my texts because my phone would only hold 8. Photos were special things and I feel everyday life, including for me, is oversaturated and I wonder what a tech oriented childhood would do to someone.
re: the woke thing, this generalized too, but there's a reddit sub called ask teen girls. they had to make a rule saying top level comments must be from teen girls, boys could reply to their comments though. you know, because the sub was called ask teen girls. The boys absolutely lost their shit and raided the sub for days. They were definitely teen boys as well. they made post after post on /r/teenagers about how women are favored in society etc that got upvoted/gilded a bunch. I hate the "gen z are more woke" line of thinking because it's blatantly not true if you interact with gen z outside of twitter/insta.
The idea gen z isn't full of misogynistic porn obsessed moids is a joke. Same as every other gen.
the harry potter thing is dumb. gen z obsess over fucking rick & morty and tiktok. who gives a shit if some millennials likes harry potter. it's the least offensive thing you could possibly be into. I don't know why gen z is so obsessed with calling people out for liking a story that generated billions and has themepark open around it.
>>595774>Was the internet more fun back in the early/late 00's?
Tons, it was less centralized, more experimental and lots more people were goofing off and having fun because you were encouraged to hide your personal information so there were fewer consequences. Most of the internet userbase was significantly younger too since there was no online shopping and social media. There were lots of spaces you could customize (LiveJournal themes, geocities etc) and hobbies weren't heavily monetized or turned into an "aesthetic" like they are now since there were no likes or virtual popularity points. Ofc there were pedos out there and other degenerates, but it's not like they don't exist anymore, I feel like they're even more likely to target young girls due to so much personal information existing.>I have always wondered how the days of forums and small websites were like, was people more genuine or interesting to talk to?
A lot. There's still small forums that survive to this day but they're heavily moderated and you often need an invite to get in. PC culture also wasn't as big back then so you wouldn't get shunned for the smallest verbal slip (I still remember when I got dogpiled for calling someone a retard… on 4chan).
That said, I'm a very young millenial on the edge of being a zoomer and also a third worlder so things might have progressed faster elsewhere.
I don't like millenial men online (mostly Americans and Brits), their whole personality revolves around media consumerism and they're turbopseuds who always make fun of stuff like astrology that girls mostly do for fun while drooling over Jordan Peterson's drug fueled ramblings and talking about evopsych and MBTI which they ironically take 100% seriously.
At the same time I don't like zoomer virtue signaling, I think it's admirable that they're speaking up about social issues but not everyone lives in the US and Americans have a very myopic view of the world, which often results in them bullying random people for no reason and shutting down everyone who disagrees with them. Wokeness and being PC don't really help anybody, they just make actual serious discussion harder when you have to argue about dumb semantics.
One thing that really angered me was butthurt tumblrites shitting on cottagecore because it's not "inclusive" enough, shut the fuck up, it's a dumb fantasy lifestyle people got into because they're sick of modern capitalism, participate if you want or don't.
30 y/o answering here, and in short, yeah definitely. There was a broader feeling of the internet being lots of little communities for all sorts of things like hobbies, political interests, sports, you name it. There was MSN Messenger, AIM, ICQ and boundless forums for talking about anything you wanted. It felt like actual communities instead of just this giant nameless/faceless brief 'hit like' 'subscribe/follow' bullshit we have now. Online interactions now are very passive and no longer have that personal feel. I had friends I met on Neopets and roleplaying forums that I stayed in touch with for a decade. Every time we checked in with each other, it was a genuine interaction, whereas I now feel like people these days ghost more easily and with little thought. I miss that a lot. It felt cosy.
I feel a lot of it now is getting online, sticking to your tribe and flinging shit at those who oppose you. That used to happen in the 'old days' too but it was less vicious. It was more 'haha, look at those goofs' now it's 'lets fucking ruin their life and cancel them'.
I also long for the days of stumbling across a strangers website for something they're massively interested in. Signing guestbooks, reading other visitors comments and being fascinated by where they said they were from. It felt like an adventure, now I don't enjoy spending as much time online. It was great.
I've been online since 2000 (oldfag + started very early) and it was much more exciting. For one thing social media didn't exist so people were creating content that was genuinely appealing and funny out of their own personal interest. Because megacorporations weren't online yet they were genuine and free of calculated marketing tactics. Now you get all these youtube influencers who are like "real people" when they're sponsored and controlled by different big businesses and have a suspiciously high production value with their shit with engineered scripts and content. Everyone was creating websites so I personally had like 30 sites I rotated between in a day, now I just refresh lolcow, news sites, youtube and twitter and that's about it. There's nothing else to see really. You found something new all the time.
As for the users themselves, normies didn't use internet back then except maybe occasionally. This meant that you got all sorts of weirdos around you but the biggest userbase was just general nerds who were smart and nice albeit a bit awkward. I came across pedos in the early 00's every now and then but because like >>595798
mentioned you were highly discouraged from sharing any personal information about yourself they were much less likely to prey on you as they knew nothing about you besides your nickname and vague details. I just told them off because my parents always told me about stranger danger and back then digital cameras (or much less phone cameras) weren't as mainstream so you got only a limited amount of photos to post online to begin with.
Political correctness wasn't a thing at all either. However I don't remember bona fide misogyny existing like it does today. Now you got all these loser incels sperging out about cock carousels and whatnot but back then the worst you got was a "go make me a sandwich rofl" joke and belittlement, not hate. As a 14-year old girl I was welcomed in pretty much all the spaces I entered, not in a grooming sense either because I mostly hung around with people my age. Homophobia was a bit more reoccurring but it manifested usually in terms of dark humor, not vitriol. Same goes for racism, you got "Nigga stole my bike" type of jokes but there wasn't a /pol/ kind of mainstream narrative about blacks, jews and gays ruining the western civilization. All that sort of stuff didn't start existing until the early 2010s when politics started being polarized. In the early to mid 00s it was much more likely for someone to be called out for being an abusive
nutjob (think Final Fantasy house) than making some innocuous post someone found offensive.
Because most online spaces (Message boards, forums, imageboards and livejournal communities mostly) were small and moderated and didn't belong to some big blob of a colossal social media space, the discussion was much more pragmatic than what you see on places like Twitter or Tumblr where anyone can step on the soapbox to voice their uneducated opinions unchallenged. Spergs and sociopaths existed everywhere but they were often shunned, in the time of social media the crazy fuckers who would've been banned everywhere they set their foot in are now able to rise to the status of a hero and an influencer.
All in all internet is way better these days in terms of technology (faster speeds, bigger bandwidth capacities, user interfaces, streaming, instant messaging, online services etc.) but the community is dog shit compared to what it was in the early 2000s.
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>>595806>I also long for the days of stumbling across a strangers website for something they're massively interested in. Signing guestbooks, reading other visitors comments and being fascinated by where they said they were from.
This took me back anon, I used to run a crappy website about anime and basically every related weeb subject I could think of to write a page about. This was back in like 2008 as a teenage weeb. I had a guestbook too and it was so much fun interacting with people commenting there feeling like this cool senpai giving recommendations.
Around the same time I met a girl by getting into a youtube comment back-and-forth doing cringy 'omg so random humor' roleplays of anime characters. We ended up continuing doing that same rp in private messages for like half a year. I knew she lived halfway across the globe but I never got to know her name or what she looked like or anything. Stuff like that just didn't seem important at all.
This, thank you anons. The best part of the "milenial culture" (to call it something) is the niche cultures, the online happenings, the websites zoomers didn't get to experiment because all they've known is corporativist internet and they had twitter instagram etc shoved into their faces since young. Not blaming them but pitying them, rather. I'd also be a hypersensitive easily offended baby if I had been raised on fucking twitter with all the tranny pedophile brainwashing propaganda. (That said, some milenials are this bad as well and I am clueless on what is their excuse because I've never been that gullible and I am a huge oldfag who spent her teen years online as well. Most of us were already adults when all the woke shit started getting out of hand. Tbh my personal believe is that frequenting some big websites were more damaging to growing teenagers than others deviantart
Many zoomers have a warped view of milenians because they've only met the most shit milenials. I personally think we can either be pretty based or pretty terrible. There really isn't a middleground with us for some reason.
Also milenial normies are awful. They definitely make up most of the worst milenial stereotypes together with the sjw manchildren. In fact they tend to overlap a lot.
To the person (>>594763) who said milenials had less options because they only had facebook and 4chan and zoomers had TIkOtK rEdDit and a list of other corporation brand names, are you a normie? People on the old internet barely used those unless they where those kinds who just owned a computer to do school projects and check facebook notifications. Life and activity back then was thriving in small forums, blogs (fotolog, livejournal & blogspot anyone?), chatrooms, geocites, and more niche hobby shit like oekakis, mmos etc. You can't understand the old internet with the current internet mindset. People used to get away with worse shit too since it was decentralized as well, not everything was fantastic and free to be honest.
What's even the purpose of this post. Are you salty that milenials got more variety to enjoy when they were younger and talk about it fondly when asked? Social media is crap and your gen keeps doing and liking the same shit because they killed originality and variety and anyone who goes out of their way and is "smug" (being passionate about something is being smug now? lmao) gets either cancelled or ignored.
Not our fault your internet sucks. Be mad at corporations, not at us; we would had rather kept things the way they were so you got to see them too.
It makes way more sense that gen z would have more coomers, who would think otherwise? Nofap is niche. They grew up with access to porn on the smartphones from a very young age.
Semi related rant but the influx of teen coomers makes online RP impossible. I had fun memories of role playing action-adventure type stories with other teens when I was a teen and trying to get back into it was super disappointing. It’s like no one wants to do regular roleplay any more only erotic roleplay and ITS FULL OF KIDS. I do not want to get Chris Hanson’d. I gave up honestly. The sheer quantity of kiddy coomers made it seem unviable.
I feel you, fellow oldfag, i feel you.
>Political correctness wasn't a thing at all either. However I don't remember bona fide misogyny existing like it does today. Now you got all these loser incels sperging out about cock carousels and whatnot but back then the worst you got was a "go make me a sandwich rofl" joke and belittlement, not hate. As a 14-year old girl I was welcomed in pretty much all the spaces I entered, not in a grooming sense either because I mostly hung around with people my age.
I think it mostly had to do with these losers being larpers who do not even belong to internet culture in the first place; they are mostly irl losers with no hobbies other than the porn/vidya combo who tagged along later on when the internet became more accesible in the early 2010s and started polluting big forums with their sperging; if you pay attention the big boom of gamer culture, steam and competitive gaming becoming a thing happened precisely around those years. I don't think it's a coincidence lmanchildren infested everything around the same time.
Nerds before were too invested into their hobbies to start silly gender wars and children just sticked to each other as you said. People itt complained a lot about milenials being over invested into their hobbies but nowadays internet's main activity consists on everyone shitting on people they don't like, wherever you go. All you see is bitter, depressed, bored young people everywhere.
Lots of millennials didn’t spend that much time online before smartphones were ubiquitous, you could only access porn at home where your desktop computer was and lots of families couldn’t afford desktops Orr broadband internet. Obviously this wasn’t the case with families who were better off.
By contrast a zoomer could have had a smartphone at age 7 and could access porn walking to school. It’s not a difference of availability but ease of access.
I feel like the alt thing only exists online, and even then on really on tiktok where people kind of use alt/straight tiktok in the same way people use normie, local, npc etc>>595969
No one is being cancelled for being ‘passionate’
>>594719>Why is gen z's purchasing forecast less than a fourth of the millenials?
I think it's more of a question of who's doing these analytics.>Gen Z is not drawn to brands easily, which means retailers have to do more to reach them
If I someone gave me a marketing survey, I'd say no to buying every Pringles, Coca-Cola, Klenex, Apple, Dell, and so forth shit. And I block every ad, but I'd definitely scratch my chin at a Pinebook, other ARM Linuxfag laptop/phone or donate to something like AO3.
Agree. People who didn't understand internet culture got online and started bringing in their autism, then aggregated movements to adapt their ideals. After social media became popular the discussion online became much less moderated because these huge corporation-run spaces couldn't monitor everything that was being said, so you could just run your mouth saying whatever you wished and someone would always believe and agree with you because who's going to tell them you're full of shit? Now the sites are installing all this AI logic to handle the amounts of support requests and shady information gathering (like asking for your phone number) so innocent people get hit as well.
>Nerds before were too invested into their hobbies to start silly gender wars and children just sticked to each other as you said.
Yep. Zoomers can shit on "autistic millenials" all they want but back then people were more interested in whatever their hobby was than constantly being at war with each other. Not saying dramas didn't exist because they did but the politicization of every issue didn't. As a 14-year old I sure as hell frequented hentai fanart sites because what horny teen didn't, but actually going to the message board to demand these adults to make their porn "safer" to me as a minor would've gotten my ass banned and ridiculed and I would've retreated to lick my wounds. Social media didn't exist, where would I be making my self-indulging callout post? People aren't expected to be in charge of their own internet experience anymore because everyone is stuck in the same massive online spaces and the other side is trying to police the grey masses to cater to their everchanging sensibilities causing more people to be pushed to the other radicalized extreme as their frustration boils over. I swear half of my friends who were nice, intelligent people in 2007 are now either trooned out ultra-liberal spergs and half are alt-right motherfuckers whining about m-muh immigrants and destroyed west. After I detoxed myself of my social media addiction around 2 years ago and only focused on fucking around in my own self-created bubble I felt myself being much more lax and inspired, and the anxiety and constant feeling of having to watch over my shoulder returns immediately if I open up any of my social media feeds.
As a side note regarding gender wars I can't believe it was only a bit more than 10 years ago when everyone used the word "tranny" freely and the term was "transsexual", not "transgender". I'm still waiting for my cancellation for openly dropping the "t-slur" in 2009, that's how much things change and how internet leaves a paper trail of what you said and did years ago and anyone can find it. Now it's especially dangerous because almost everything is tied to your real life identity. So zoomers keep this in mind whenever you feel like posting some edgy take on your Tiktok or Taktik or SnapGram or whatever you kids have these days. Something that was completely okay in 2020 might be the equivalent of calling black people the n-word when 2027 comes around.
Lmao if you think millennials will see much of that inheritance. Their parents are going to blow through their savings in retirement for end of life care which is stupid expensive. This is already happening to lots of families. The adult children end up with nothing because it all went to medical costs.
Mind you this is a very American reply. Might not be the case in other countries.
This. My parents are already planning to spend all that they have during retirement and leave us kids with zilch. We'll probably end up paying for their medical costs once they become old and debilitated and the money runs out. Boomers were the ones getting huge inheritances because the greatest generation was stingy as fuck and ended up being loaded and never spending any of that money due to their poverty traumas from the early to mid 1900's. >>596307
You're aware there are more types of people than just tech-savvy internet nerds and well-adjusted regular normies right?
Exactly, this argument style of constantly replying with "Ok but you're still a [word]" or "Whatever lmao" like they're too cool to be actually bothered by the argument when they're so seething they can't form proper sentences anymore is either the zoomer trend of being constantly bored and having a nonexistent attention span or just general teenager behavior because they can't hold a conversation that might force them to internalize what the other person is saying. >>596324
Also NTA but you aren't entitled to drop a spicy take and not have your viewpoint challenged either.
Close, but more:>"Muh PTSD" is quintessential bait by LC standards, excuse me while I press X to doubt
Girl, 23 is no baby either, that's close to or already mid 20s, how can you unironically call people who are only 2 years older than you annoying, entitled and raised a certain way that's supposedly so different and worse than you were raised?
That's the same energy as 18-year-olds calling 17-year-olds children, just even more embarrassing…
I wasn't raised that way. I was poor, had to rely on family, did some stints in foster care, etc.
Also not saying I don't have my own shit I'm not dealing with. I'm just an idealist, and don't think - most - people from that age group are seeing how their lifestyle is going to dematerialize as resources run out. They function better in society than me, but what happens when society changes? What happens when consumerism has too many mouths to feed, and not enough resources?
Not everyone fits this stereotype, but I feel like at least my age group gets that better. Call it nihilism or hedonism, but at least we grew up on the idea that we're raping the planet of its resources. We can't all have an abundance mentality.
Almost everyone I know well who is 25-30 is self-absorbed and self-interested. At least 18-20 year olds have the excuse of immaturity still.
Bitch, I can say whatever I want. You don't know what I feel about people my age. That wasn't part of the prompt. We are stupid in our own ways. More stupid, cause we are more immature.
There's a difference between being youthful and holding on to your youth btw. Y'all were the Myspace gen, and I'm in the insta gen. At least, I'm assuming you're in that age group, cause you're butthurt. We have never known anything different. 25-30ers knew how much better interactions were before social media/connectivity ruined the spirit of relationships.
Again with the "y'all" vs. "me"…>There's a difference between being youthful and holding on to your youth btw.
And let me guess, you think you're the former while us are the latter? lol
You're a dumb fag, sincerely another "young" <25 person. Also, emojis aren't allowed.>>596386
She's not. She's a grown ass woman, average or even above average age for lc users, yet screeches about people a couple months older than her "plaguing" her.
This might be bait but I actually feel like this is one of the gen z trends I've observed. You take something out of context and pretend you don't understand the original message, playing dumb just to sidetrack the discussion and trying to gain the upper hand by being cheeky and snappy.
This. This is why so many people get cancelled at the stupidiest thing too.
>Gen Z is not drawn to brands easily, which means retailers have to do more to reach them
MMM SURE. They’re just obsessed with non-brands like Airpods, Gucci, Jeffrey Star, AAA titles, e-celebs cult personalities dogshit merch. Overdosing on brands masquerading as people, marketing already got you from the womb fam. I have yet seen any significant divergence from this trend toward more local, homebrew consumerism and rejection of mainstream cultures like millennials did with “hipster culture”. The most I’ve seen zoomers do is shilling “ecofriendly” and “ethically sourced” products. 90% of which, you guess it, aren’t, just effective zoombies marketing. Capitalism stays winning while baby play pretend communist online. Making fun of their parents for falling for MLM schemes is peak irony.
“ecofriendly” and “ethically sourced” are just buzzwords to sell products at this point lmao
Zoomers are so obsessed with being right and righteous that they will shill brands that are “ecofriendly” and “ethically sourced” when they are still basically supporting a big industry and prioritizing brand over quality. Example, shilling Lush.
Millenials were big on DIY shit back in the 2010's.
Man, a friend's brother is like that too. Since I'm somewhat versed in zoomer jokers I kinda understand some, while others are just unintelligible gibberish nonsense. Sometimes all we can do is blank stare.>it's dadaism!!!!!
No it isn't, it's you dancing to Shrek meme. Stop trying to be funny Jimmy, you're embarassing everyone at wallmart with your forced tiktoks
Agreed. First of all zoomers love to pretend like they're not lowly consoomers like the preceding generations but they're just as vulnerable to marketing tactics as everyone else. Instead of corporations peddling their products themselves they pay social media influencers to promote them because they're seen as the "real people" who give "honest opinions" when they're nothing more than salespeople in disguise. Not to mention their own brand products (or "collaboration series") they hawk to their audience, often it being just some already existing production line crap they slapped their face and name on.
Secondly the eco-friendly/sustainable brand is their generation's Gucci and Vuitton, corporations can just buy that label on their products by paying off anyone they need to. The eco-friendly products constantly flunk the consumer-conducted tests or are found to be straight out scams. It's all the same shit but zoomers are too young and naive to realize they're living the regular ~evil~ consoomerism culture that we grew up in.
2000's was extremely bland af in terms of fashion and emo/scene/cringey ass cybergoths were the only memorable things that came out of it. Normies of the 2000's were the normiest of normies that wore boring t-shirt, hoodie, and jeans and called it a day. Felt like if the 90's lost everything that made it interesting bc boomers harshly judged anyone that tried to be "fun" unless they were literal kids. I also remember flowy tops that made anyone that wasn't flat as a washing board look boxy or pregnant, those were SHIT.
2010's had a lot more interesting fashion. Flower crowns, skinny jeans becoming mainstream, skirts becoming popular again, return of cold shoulder tops, space buns, dyed hair on the rise, eyeliner wings, people being more experimental with make-up in general, etc.
I feel like 2020's, besides the masks, will just repeat the 2010's and aim for 80's and 90's nostalgia like the latter of the 2010's was doing.
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But the 10's fashion was mainstream and boring, you could see your average stacy wearing flower crowns, skinny jeans and dying her hair to take "aesthetic" photos, it didn't feel like an act of rebellion. The 00's was weirder with goth, emos, scene kids, skaters/streetwear. I feel like Japanese fashion was at it's peak in the 00's too. My teenage years were awfull, there wasn't a counter culture to follow so if you weren't your typical tumblr/twitter addicted teen you ended up alone like me. I am glad my teen years are over, from what my 14 yo step brother tells me it's only getting worse, with teens only watching youtuber/streamers and feeling edgy by having "political ideologies" at 14 lmao.
I’m gen z, but I’m not as funny or clever as a lot of other Sooners. I used to think gen z is pretty cool, but I’m starting to find our group to be insufferable. It’s probably because we’re barely into adulthood at the oldest, but idk.
Like this shit where I was talking with a zoomer 2 years younger than me about the possibility of working for a huge company. I said that I’ve heard those jobs tend to suck and won’t make you happy, so I would prefer to work at a place with a more stable and mature culture. This bitch was all ‘that’s fine for your generation
but people like us don’t want to be mediocre’ >>596842
It always looks like a costume, and usually frumpy
Based>Congrats on being able to read the data created by other generations regarding science and pushing for reforms we've told you too
They really just had access to information technologies more advanced than anyone else in history. They just had easier access to education than anyone else in history. They have the audacity to think this means their generation is somehow innately more woke and caring of humanitarianism. Yet they love dunking on the people who gave them all of these things.
I'm this anon >>595153
and I feel this on an spiritual level. Thank you.>>597013
Don't forget them literally eye fucking themselves in videos on tiktok/Instagram in an attempt to be a "thirst trap". They practically invented that autistic shit.
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Just remember that you were once young and cringe and you will also eventually be old and “outdated”
Be nice yo
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easy zoomie, go read some trans Voltron fanfic or vape or something
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Why does gen z have such awful taste in fashion? Like why do you guys like these long nasty nails?
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anon i hate to be the bearer of bad news but early 2000's fashion was not just one of your fever dreams
2000s "fashion" was a crime against civilization, and the second worst fashion trend in history right after the Chinese tradition of bound feet.
May we never live through such dark times again.
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Youtube has recommended some "reacting to Tiktok POVs" videos to me and I've watched them out of curiosity, it's baffling how full of themselves the guys are. They really think they're God's gift to women. There's like a hundred and ten videos that are like "POV: I catch u staring at me and falling in love at first sight because I'm literally the hottest person alive ;)))" bites lip and ruffles hair
. Like sure, a lot of the guys my age were obnoxious when I was a teen, but at least they didn't seem like they jack off every day in front of a mirror.
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I'm not going to lie, I think guys back then would've done it too. It's just that they didn't have a way of filming it and sharing it with millions of people.
But if you were on break.com or early YouTube, you'd find a lot of that stuff there, just a different form of it.
Pic related, 14 years ago but you know if this guy was that she in this current time, he'd be all over tiktok doing some stupid shit.
Yeah but this dude is being normal and not "a godsent creaute~" kpop reject that these ugly motherfucking creatures pretend to be>>597290
GOD just by looking at their ugly faces with makeup and thinking they look sooooooo hot I want to fucking punch them all I hate them god I hate them>>597291
this, douches will never look attractive
I feel like most alt fashion nowadays is just about putting on an outfit for your Instagram, then taking it off immediately. I live in a big city, and everyone is just so boring. There's no interesting people, nobody taking risks when it comes to fashion. I also can't with that hideous mom jeans trend and nasty blue denim trend as well, it's so fucking ugly and also those calf length dresses that are unflattering on everyone.
I hate how smug and full of themselves gen z are. They all see themselves as either hot, or if they fail in that department, they go for quirky Emma chamberlain lite.
I also hate how thristy for e-fame gen-z kids tends to be. When I got to work, I always hear teenagers talking about their ideas for their shitty tik toks, I've had to wipe away people writing their tik tok handles with makeup. But of course, many millennial are also guilty of being thirsty for e-fame too, particularly the younger ones. I just find it odd how this generation are so comfortable putting EVERYTHING online without thinking, nobody is concerned about catfishes, pedos or weirdos gawking at them.
As a Zoomer I fucking despise her
And her stupid,ghetto trash fans.
Long fake nails are trashy like her,go figure
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>>597428>emma chamberlain lite
this is how zoomzooms literally wanna look like lmao
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I feel like the main reason why there isn't much counter-culture, and in turn new alt-fashions that don't ape older alt fashions , is because the internet has allowed everyone to have a seat at the table and most people stay in their own groups
imo mom jeans are super cute and versatile and I also like wearing clothes that are kinda bulky and shapeless as I find the silhouettes more interesting, but every zoomer I see wearing mom jeans just pairs them with a solid color crop top and calls it a day (see: >>597477
) also they buy ones that are super fitted which absolutely eradicates most peoples figure unless they have irl instagram bodies.>>597504
the day I went to my grandma's place and found she'd casually dyed her hair purple overnight is when I realized this kek
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Yes, it was tremendously more fun, almost a wild west. There used to be be a small level of technical skill required to even get online and personal computers were not common. I remember in middle school classmates would say things like "I don't go on the computer" so the chance of someone you know finding you online was slim to none. It was easy to be anonymous. Security wasn't even on people's minds. Passwords were emailed in plaintext. You used to be able to just guess people's security questions or bruteforce their passwords as many times as necessary until you got access. It was super easy to buy drugs or pirate literally anything thanks to the warez scene (shoutout to all you present day lovely seeders). The computer art scene was in its infancy and you could actually surf the web. Hacker groups defacing each other's websites with their own custom intricate ascii art for clout. After the mid 90s, websites were trivial to make because there was just tons of free web hosting available. Static sites that were tributes to characters or shows or books were common and most had webrings, letting you find even more unique sites. Neocities at least exists in the same spirit. You can't really do that anymore with the modern search engines. Winamp skins were the shit.
I cannot imagine making the online friendships I did during the early 00s. People I met then on random forums or niche fan page chatrooms I will be friends with for the rest of my life. I can't find a modern online community that is equivalent to the type of intimacy you could develop within a friend group of online strangers on the forums of like newgrounds or gaia or tigsource. More people use the internet than ever, but so many ones I meet only consider the internet to be google, social media, twitch, reddit, 4chan, wikipedia, or youtube. It's hypocritical of me to say this since I work in tech, but the tech giants really did destroy a beautiful thing by commercializing the internet. I have faith that breaking up ISP monopolies and finding a way to scale promising concepts like mesh networks could make the internet like it used to be, but better.
I think there is a distinction to be made between a millennial who came of age online and one who began using it after already having established a career and life. Internet culture is a combination of awe and horror and to grow up immersed in it during a time where it was mostly not moderated def fucked me up.
One thing about zoomers though is I honestly feel sorry for them. I don't mean to sound like I just pity them or something, but they've been dealt such a dogshit tier hand. Millenials were too, but the oldest of the generation significantly less so than the rest. I'm an Amerifag and seeing zoomers deal with school shootings, the broken economy, and now the pandemic. Some of them don't know how it is to not be under constant surveillance. Also, it is bewildering to me how many of them don't know how to do the most basic of computer or internet troubleshooting. RTFM.
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>People who are currently 25-30, what is your unfiltered opinion on people currently 18-24?
Tbh I think they're a lot more aware of issues from around the world and more willing to do something about them. The millennials in my life are so beaten down by life that it feels like my generation feels much more defeatist melancholy and just jaded in general. Gen Z feels much more gregarious and sociable than millenials? I think it has to do with how everything is becoming acceptable to the general public and people don't have to hide their true selves anymore. Gen Z just seems much happier despite all the shit happening in the world compared to Millennials from my american perspective.
This. I’m an older millennial and I feel defeated by the world in general. I think it started with the recession and now it’s the boomers (A lot of millennials’ parents) and media gaslighting our generation into thinking we’re the problem with society. While I agree on some things that are annoying about my generation ( ie majoring in some idiotic thing like old English and then complaining about the lack of job opportunities), both millennials and gen z have a better understanding environment and social issues.
The boomers are all going insane because of lead poisoning from leaded gasoline.
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Gen X got all the lead. I wonder if it would help in court just like being an unformed brainlet like people under 25?