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No. 472051

A Thread for former NEETs who escaped the NEET lifestyle and are tying to stay out and current NEETs who wish who want to get out of NEETdom

No. 472054

>>472051
I thought I hated normies (and people who I thought were normies but aren’t/weren't). Truth was that I hated loneliness not other people, and that I was causing the problems in my social life, not society. Took some steps,Thanks to the support of my parents,got a full time at a local sporting store that one my dad's friends partially owns,managed to actually socialize with other people talking about early 2000's related nostalgia,actually have a group friend now, and I can finally hold a conversation without it ending after 5 seconds. I’m a lot happier now.

No. 472071

help me anons, ill falling so deep into loneliness. i havent received my disability allowance yet i am hungry and i am scared i will die in my bed and no one will find me for days

No. 472079

>>472071
do your parents or close family relatives live near you and If so can/will they help you ? and also does your disability prevent you from getting a job

No. 472170

I was neet for 5 years, in a 3-year and 2-year stretch. I've spent the majority of my adult life that way. But I have a part time job since the beginning of last month.

The biggest issues I have are with confidence and talking to coworkers. I'm not that bad at talking to them, but since I'm so avoidant, it just ends up being small talk.

A bit of advice for neets out there: I volunteered for a while before I got a job. Because I was with people at their workplace, I got to see what a normal work environment looks like with barely any pressure on me. So if you can volunteer with people who are doing normal paid work, it can be a good start. (If you have social anxiety like I do, anyway.)

No. 472178

>>472170
my neet recommendation for Us anons: AmeriCorps
paid volunteering.

It's tough work but they will hire pretty much anyone, they have job postings all over the us you do pretty much only from their shitty website and over the phone interviews, it's also incredibly hard to get fired unless you like violate a human right. (I had several embarrassing neet transition panic attacks at work. was I annoying? yes? could they get rid of me? no.)

I'd never had a job before but had gone to school for a year and I felt so prepared to find work after even with no degree.

I sound like a government shill but it saved my life. Most programs are for 18-25 but they have plenty of positions for older women. It's work experience that pretty much looks as good as PeaceCorps on your resume. Sometimes they will give you extra money to move. Not great pay but you get like almost 200$ in food stamps and health insurance. (oh also you get about 5000 a year to put towards education. ultimately you are netting about 10 bucks an hour but if you have 0 work experience it's worth it. Vista positions are the tits and you get paid more but I haven't done it yet. Probably will next time I'm in a bind.

No. 472195

I've mostly been a neet since 2007. there were a few years i tried to go back to school/college but the act of physically being there was harder than any of the academic work I had to do. I'm 29 now. I have a chronic illness, depression, severe social anxiety and avoidant personality disorder. No education beyond high school, barely any work experience. I live with my parents. I don't leave the house most days. I have no friends on or offline. I hate my life and I don't know how to be better. I don't know if I'm capable of being better.

No. 472203

>>472071
Sell things you own, like books or clothes in good shape. Find facebook groups in your area, or on instagram…

No. 472204

I was fully NEET from 2010 to 2014. Partial NEET from 2014 to 2016 (part time student). I've been consistently employed since 2016 but I feel like NEETing for so long completely destroyed any work ethic or career motivation all together. Thinking about having to work towards a career that I will work 30 plus years and be 1/3 of my life kills me. How do "normies" do it? Was it just instilled in them from the time they were teens so they had time to get used to it or something? I feel like the only way I would really try is if I was thrown out on the streets. Maybe it's because I never truly have supported myself? My bf makes a lot more than me so almost all the bills are paid for by him. Do I need to struggle more financially to really accept that life is essentially working until you die with a few fun things sprinkled in once in a blue moon? I feel privileged but at the same time I don't. Sure I have a roof over my head but never have much money or go anywhere. Even though I haven't technically been a NEET for a while I still feel like one.

No. 472219

>>472204
It might be the way you were raised. Thinking back on the times I was full time neet is disturbing to me. I was consistently suicidal and without hope. I had stays in mental hospital. I had peers from my previous non-neet days but would never want to go out in fear of feeling like a joke. Like a child among adults. I've also been consistently employed now since 2016 and I can honestly say it is the most important aspect of my life. Without employment I am completely lost. I don't know what that says about me, or about society in general, but it's just the way it is. I just hope when my retirement comes I will feel like I've done enough to earn it, because I have terrible fears of sinking back down to feeling like a womanchild parasite.

No. 472223

I had to take several semesters of university and I didn't work during any of them. I went back to school fall of 2017 and I'll be graduating next May. I was often suicidal during my NEET times. And now that I think about it, I was using the internet to cope in unhealthy ways.

What really changed my life was working in a communal organic farm in South America. It showed me how crucial social and physical activity were to my wellbeing. I don't get the best grades but I'm looking forward to my future now for the most part. I would recommend WOOFing like I did.

No. 472242

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http://www.krisis.org/1999/manifesto-against-labour/

Don't let yourselves ever be shamed for not being part of the machine.

Strive to change the system to be beneficial to more people, do not strive to change yourself to fit a corrupt decaying system.

I know this is a long read and too scholarly for some, but it's a much needed alternative perspective on the issues that face all of us, and it's well worth the read.

No. 472246

>>472242
Yeah because NEETs are doing so much good to the world by staying at home on the internet all day

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No. 472251

>>472247
Did you actually read anything by KM or FE before memeing them? >>472246
Did you actually read through the link before posting that sarcastic line?

Rhetorical questions of course.

No. 472269

I hope it's ok to post here because I'm not actually a neet, only living similarly to one.
I go to uni but don't have any friends, not even acquaintances. My few friends from high school left a long time ago. I do have a part time job (once per week), but work my shift alone and keep the conversation with costumers at absolute minimum. I don't have any motivation to do anything, my personal hygiene is horrible, I brush my teeth only once per day, have trouble showering daily, rarely wash my hair, wear the same stuff for weeks, eat like shit and only sleep for 4 maybe 5 hours on average. I already studied for way too long because I'm too anxious to go to classes. I only have my family to talk to, if it wasn't for them I'd definitely be a neet, even fatter and would just lay in bed while on the internet 24/7.

It feels like I'm only alive but not truly living. I already wasted so many years being like this and it's only gotten worse. I felt suicidal 5 years ago but not anymore. Now I just try to not be an even bigger embarrassment, disappointment and reason to worry for my parents but I'm failing miserably. I'm already 24 and can't even look at guys, how am I ever supposed to turn into somebody who's somewhat normal when others my age are already working, building houses and getting married? I'm lagging so much behind.

No. 472274

>>472269
It's not a race. Stop and smell the roses.

No. 472280

>>472269
Sweet anon it's okay to feel like this. In an age where everyone is showing off on social media how awesome their lives are and how successful they are, it's totally normal to compare yourself and feel like you're not doing as good as others.

We are all going at our own pace, and that's okay. I am 28 and have only just managed to find a boyfriend after years of desperately wanting love, but all of my high school friends got married and moved out years ago. I still live with my parents. I focus on things that make me happy, like my dog. My sisters. Drawing. Like the other anon said, it's not a race.

Don't give up anon, life gets better. Do you have any hobbies you can throw yourself into? Anything you've always wanted to try?

No. 472301

>>472269
>already working, building houses and getting married?
You're only 24 and you aren't a NEET at all, you actually work and many people are still studying at that age and very few are building houses or getting married. Those are long term goals, don't get ahead of yourself and waste time worrying about them. I mean, you don't even need them at all, I sure af don't wanna get married.

Work on your hygiene and daily routine first. There are lots of subreddits that help with forming good habits (/r/selfimprovement, /r/productivity etc) and I see a lot of posts from people with similar issues that resolve them with to do lists and tracking systems and such.

No. 472308

>>472195
you can get better all of us here were just like you,I started my job when I was 26 and I don't regret it

I know it can seem difficult but a job really is better then going to school in terms of learning normie socialization(namefagging)

No. 472315

Not technically a neet because i do some remote work online, is not even regular, i might work for a month and not work for the next one but i do pay the bills with what little i make. Its just enough to survive in squalor ion my third world dump.

I lost all hope, i am very much a hikikomori, i had two jobs and hated them so much, i never want to go back to an office again, i even hate the work i already do, i hate dealing with people, i have not had a friend in like 5 years, those i did have were few and shitty and i was always the odd excluded one from the groups, i ended either being ghosted or ghosting people. 5 years ago was about the time i ended school which i also hated, i was bullied in highschool and didn't got along with anyone in uni. I have not even had a single conversation in the flesh with anyone for years. I browse ib regularly and listen to a lot of audiobooks and TTC classes to keep my sanity but i know theres nothing i am living for, i am going nowhere, i have no ambitions anymore, i dropped all my dreams and aspirations, even if i had them still at my age is already over, once my father dies i am ending my life most likely, i haven´t already because i worry about him and i pay for everything here in the shithole i live in. Everyone who abused me and bullied me is super successful now and living their dreams traveling the world, i don't even have social media because i am the butt of all jokes and have no one to talk to, i am still very much a poorfag autist looser that i was in HS, even when i tried and tried and sacrificed all my youth to try to escape , i cannot really run away from fate, i can't even afford therapy, i needed it since i was very young but i grew up a neglected poorfag from a one parent home with no friends and family to care for me so i never even had a chance but being the mockery of every context i was a part of.

No. 472316

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No. 472321

i was thinking on this one

No. 472327

>>472321
but we never had the good life and thus we really can't go "back"

No. 472329

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>>472327

I guess thats true. I have been miserable for a long time but i did have a lot more motivation and a willingness to believe things can change and my efforts can have purpose and meaning when i was younger, even when my reality was bleak. Thats a good life relative to just knowing theres nothing but the future void and bad memories from the past.

No. 472339

>>472329
I talked with my dad yesterday about all my insecurities and the "what If's" I should have taken in life

he then opened up to me and told me about how when my mother was pregnant with my older sister he was in special forces training at that time and he was half way though when he got a call of how my mother's physical and mental was deteriorating and regrettably he dropped out of SF training course to be with his pregnant wife and he was labelled as a coward and quitter by his other friends,he told me that for a long he had always wondered about "what If" he stayed and how much cred it would have given in but after a while he realized that the was the decision he made and he can't change that but he can always change what direction his life is headed as long he was still alive and that I can too

I don't wanna give up

No. 472342

>>472339
Your dad is awesome and it was the manliest, bravest thing to have dropped out of doing something he enjoyed to do the right thing instead. It would have been more cowardly to have ignored his responsibilities with his pregnant wife (your mom) imo, looking after a pregnant woman and then raising a baby is NOT easy. Good on him for sharing that with you. If he's anything like my dad it must have meant a lot to put his feelings out there like that. He's a good 'un. I hope you focus on the present and not the past anon. Enjoy the now, you only live once after all.

No. 472345

>>472342
>Your dad is awesome and it was the manliest, bravest thing to have dropped out of doing something he enjoyed to do the right thing instead

I'll tell him that because he was shit on a lot bu his own family for quitting the SF course,even his own father (an ex-marine) called him a sissy for leaving

No. 472347

>>472345
Special forces training sounds a lot more appealing than looking after a pregnant lady who is experiencing incredible discomfort and hormonal mood swings. And a newborn baby???? At least in special forces your dad would get more than 3 hours sleep a night. He's brave and did the right thing and all the others calling him a sissy were probs just acting out of toxic masculinity. Your dad sounds great and I hope you tell him that!

No. 472349

>>472347
I do love him very much but I also somewhat resent him,I feel he babied me and my siblings too much and because of that we never developed in to real adults who could take care of ourselves because he already did everything for us

No. 472356


No. 472361

>>472349
Nah don’t blame your dad for that shit. Yes he might have babied you but you’re now your own person. You’re an adult. You’re responsible for your actions and development.

No. 472372

>>472361
he himself admitted that he babied me too much

No. 472379

>>472372
What happened happened OP, at least your dad is patient with you while admitting a fault. Some parents aren't like that and like the other anon said, you're an adult now and responsible for your actions and development. It's in your power to make the change you want even if it may take a little longer. We all start somewhere.

No. 472387

>>472372
Hey anon, at least you had a dad that actually wanted to be involved in his family and child's lives to the point of scarifying his career prospects/opening himself up to ridicule, he's one of the very few and you have a great asset in your possession! As >>472361 and >>472379 said, it is all in the past now and now you are your own person, take away the good things your dad/family taught you and use them to come into your own being. So what if you were babied and, let's say, had a longer childhood than most, if he did do everything for you as you said, you should have a very good template in life what to do or, at the very least, someone you can ask for guidance when encountering new obstacles!

No. 472393

>>472387
I do love him but I feel I just don't deserve all he does for me,Like he deserves a daughter a parent can be proud of not a loser like me

I want him to be proud of an actual accomplishment not a pity "you did your best and that's all that matters" I want him to truly be proud of me

No. 472395

>>472393
While he sounds like a decent enough person not to resent you for your "success" in life, use that feeling of wanting to do him proud as a fuel to better yourself and your life! It is better to fail trying than not try at all, and if you preserve and keep trying, one of those times it (whatever that may be) will work out! I know failure is very discouraging but you can't entirely avoid it, what you can avoid however is sulking and dropping your efforts when it does. And your dad will get the bragging rights!
Blogposting just a bit so I don't seem like a positive ig quote account kek, but like I used to be a straight A student in school but now am struggling to keep up at uni, to the point of prolonging my degree by 2 years, as I never developed any proper learning skills (which goes really badly with my high expectations of being good straight out the gate kek), but I know I'm just developing those skills later than others and yes, it may suck now, but it will be worth it in the end once I graduate with a decent honours and my mom will be able to rub it in all of her friends faces lol.

No. 472397

>>472395
what really can I accomplish,I'm a ex-NEET who works full time at a sporting goods store and still live with my parents
My life is much better and happier then it was a year ago(when I was a NEET) but I'm still kinda of a loser

No. 472403

>>472301
Maybe I voiced it weirdly but getting married etc isn't even my personal goal, others doing these things just highlights how far behind I am and it also makes me lose hope that I will ever lead a normal life.
How could I find friends when I lack any social skills? I'm completely stunted in this regard meanwhile everybody else already has their set group of friends for years. And how could I find a partner when my idea of a relationship is that of a 16-year-old? Normal people at this age already think about marriage (or just want to fuck around) so how will I ever be able to find somebody who's sweet enough to take things this slow with a mid 20s woman? If I were to tell a guy that I haven't even kissed anybody and am scared of intimacy he'd rightfully be weirded out (or think I was abused).

No. 472404

>>472397
Hey, baby steps, anon! It is already really good that you've improved your life so much in comparison to a year ago, I'm sure your dad is happy you're out of the worst slumps and onto a normie track now! Also I'm not sure how old you are but honestly there's no shame living with your parents if you must, plus you save money! Once you feel adjusted and stable in your current situation, maybe try thinking about what you want to do long-term (not that there's anything wrong if retail is your end goal you know, can always have shit going on on the side!), what steps you could take towards it education or otherwise. Working full-time can be really constricting depending on your shifts, but you can save money for whatever it is you want to pursue eventually and then possibly reduce your hours if you feel like you can't pile stuff on top of working full-time.

Or maybe try exploring new hobbies if you are at a loss for what you're into! You said you're into early 2000s nostalgia, any ideas how to build off of that maybe? Art/music/clothing you could develop or something? If you want to gain more confidence socialising first, maybe try looking around for volunteering opportunities, that's a good way to find other kinda-younger people when not in education with 0 commitment of seeing them ever again in case you feel like you flopped severely kek.

No. 472411

>>472403
with regards to social skills you gotta start slow,I was so nervous when I first started working so I was pretty much a loner but by chance I started small conversations with some of co-workers who were all near my age range about MCU films and other normie stuff I knew about over time you start building up small social skills and developing the ability to talk to people

with regards to Dating and relationships I'm just as clueless about that as you are

No. 472461

>>472269
>>472403

I'm in a kinda similar situation anon. I have nothing to add to the other anons but know you're not alone. If you ever wanna talk hmu with your discord tag or something

No. 472482

i was a neet for 2 years after i dropped out of college due to depression. i spent all my time playing tf2 and trading hats and getting into stupid e-relationships with toxic manchildren. then my mom tried to force me to get a job by turning off the internet, so i looked and finally found something but i quit a week later due to having panic attacks when they asked me to answer the phone.
its been about 3 years now and i have a full-time job in IT…still have no friends and i haven't left my house for a social outing in nearly a year but at least i have my own place, a job, food, and money to spend. good luck anons.

No. 472484

I'm a recovering neet (employed for a year) who lives with her mom. I feel that it makes dating tough, I was thinking about making a bumble profile but I am worried that alot of guys on there will think I'm pathetic. I also don't have anyone to take good pictures of me…

No. 472505

>>472482
well I have some friends but my I don't earn enough to afford my own place so I live with my parents and the money I do make I spend on dumb weeb shit and vidya games

No. 472513

>>472484
No need to go in depth about your living situation until you get kinda serious, at which point if the guy finds that a deal breaker, bullet dodged and no big loss. For dates and such, you can do activities outside or go over to his.
And invest in a tripod! Maybe check out Ashley bestdressed on either yt or ig, near all her photos are tripod based and you can see what tricks she uses! (not her or an ad, just thought it was cool when I realised that lol)

No. 472527

>>472242
thank you for this anon. i've only read a bit so far but it really resonates with me.

No. 472538

>>472513
Thank you. I'm feeling encouraged and gonna take a look at her pics. It's difficult to fight the nagging voice in my head that says this stuff isnt meant for me, but I'm gonna try

No. 472549

I work from home doing software development and make decent money, but in every other way I am a NEET. No friends. No human communication at all outside of work. I live with my mom. I feel incredibly out of place in every social situation both online and off, and I always have. All I do besides work is play single player video games and sleep.

My family thinks I'm doing good and that I've defeated my lifelong dysfunction because I have a good job, but I really haven't. I just found the one job that I can hold while not doing anything to fix it.

No. 472585

I hope it's ok to post. I'm a TA and I'm doing my PhD which sounds like non-NEET material but I still live with my mum and I don't have any contact with people other than the six hours I spend a week with students.
I used to be a lot worse, when I moved out for my master's I could go for weeks without talking to anybody. Before that I was full on catatonic on psych meds. I didn't leave my bed for months.
I'm making progress but I feel like I'm still so weird and out of touch. I'm like five years behind my peers at 27. It's like people can smell my old NEET ways on me. I didn't used to mind being isolated but social media makes it worse.

No. 472604

>>472538
Exactly, just try! Finding out it isn't for you >>>>>>>>>>>>>> not even giving it a fair shot and writing yourself off anyway.
Checked just to make sure I wasn't being misleading but she literally has a video titled "how I take instagram pics by myself", frankly was quite eye opening haha, thought all the ig girls employ their friends/boyfriends for picture taking.

>>472585
Social media does make it worse doesn't it? Irl I pass for a normie quite well but when going on fb I literally feel like a lizard person in a very ill-fitting flesh suit, how do people just up and update their fb with the most inane shit for all the people from elementary school onwards to see is beyond me kek. Since you're a TA, maybe there are younger teachers or other TAs you can strike a convo with? Just some bland colleague stuff about how weather is getting colder and work sucks etc? Maybe watch a recent movie, like Joker and ask if they've seen it and what did they think? People love being asked about their thoughts and onions!

No. 472673

>>472604
Thank you anon :) I wish there were more people my age here, though they'd probably think I was a loser too. I'm the youngest in the department by 25 years and the lowest ranking, so my colleagues don't really have time for me unless they're asking me to do something for them. I tried bonding with a sympathetic older guy in my department but he's gone chilly and I don't know why. Another one I thought we had some common ground in that we both have and love dogs, but he's been avoiding me. Maybe because he finds it awkward to talk to me. To be fair I panic so much when chatting that I say stupid things and don't make sense sometimes so I don't blame him.
I've started taking up extracurricular training in an attempt to meet others in other departments, but they've already grouped up and bonded with people in their own. We had group work and I was the only one who didn't have somebody to work with so I had to talk to the guy running the group.
High school all over again, man. I'm less discouraged by these things than I once was, but making future plans to move out and escape pseudo-neetdom seem so pointless because it's not worth making the effort if it's just for me. I feel so worthless haha I don't know where to go or how to get there. Sorry to ramble, it's just weighing heavily right now. I was on the verge of losing it last week but I'm trying to pull it back around.
Sorry to hear you struggle with social media too. You're right, it's mad how people can be so comfortable being open to so many people without fear. Is that what self esteem looks like? Just like… Being really publicly comfy with yourself?
That, and all the posts from people getting houses and getting married and having kids, really can be a punch in the gut.

No. 472702

>>472585
Did you have friends before? Maybe you should try reconnecting with them.

Posting on social media isn't always a sign of self esteem. A lot of times people do it because they are insecure. I'm not really sure why you are so hung up over social media. Nobody cares if you post or not.

No. 472710

>>472673
Sorry to hear about it not working out with the other teachers! I think it is kinda random luck when it comes to forming friendships with people much more senior than you, sometimes it works and it is so cool an other times it feels like you're 12 years old and trying to make small talk with your mom's colleague at a grocery store lol. Older men are easier to talk to in some aspects bc they either like younger women paying attention to them (and in their eyes all young women are 10/10) or they see you as their daughter/granddaughter, but their sympathies can kinda wax and vane as a result, older women are more stable in their sympathies I've observed (work with round 20 50+ folk).
Wrt your peers, honesty just try infiltrating their little extracurricular groups, may be awkward as fuck but like what do you have to lose, right? Talking to the dude running the thing is also good tho, I'd probably just clam up and go semi mute in your place, I usually fare well in academic group work settings but failing to find a partner is still so disorienting and alienating.

It definitely isn't pointless! For one, living on your own/own means is weirdly satisfying and really makes you feel like you did something kek, plus it could give you some confidence in being on the "right track" in life and thus give you more confidence overall! I still kinda rely on using other people as motivation (mostly just not dissapointing my mom kek), but my biggest motivation right now is that I don't want the rest of my life to be like this, my highschool was like this, uni rn has been like this, it is absolutely unbearable and I don't want the rest of my life continue the same way. Even if it possibly doesn't seem like it, it can always get worse and it would be a waste if it did, think about the progress/good things that have have happened in the last year or months, and focus on that. You're doing a PhD! Like how impressive is that! Go for a walk, have a nice lunch, listen to cringy music you like (Naruto ops always do it for me) etc etc, just regroup and keep on keeping on lol

God the marriage posts are the worst! Literally, earnestly and honestly do not want to get married but seeing my best friend from secondary school get married last month was some proper twilight zone shit, really makes you feel like a baby lagging 12 developmental milestones behind huh.

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>>472051
I dropped out of hs 6 years ago because I was being molested and ever since I became a neet. This year I enrolled into community college though all my classes are online since I did it at the last minute. I'm mentally stunted, but I am glad I chose to break the cycle this year. I am becoming afraid of staying at home as I was raped by my own family member. It's not like I like being at home doing nothing. I feel terrible being alive, yet I want to work to be away from thinking about me. I'm so afraid of everything.

No. 472722

Anyone feel like they should be working but at the same time feel it's such bullshit to give your very life and body away to businesses who don't give a shit about you? Everyone who works full time looks so beaten down, so dead, so lifeless. They don't even have a choice. I feel like there has to be a better way.

No. 472733

tfw I relate to incel rhetoric about being socially isolated forever and inherently doomed to failure except I'm slightly less retarded than incels so I know that all my issues are fixable I only have myself to blame but this knowledge actually makes it hurt more

No. 472751

I've been a NEET most of my life.

>parents never put me in school for religious reasons, "homeschooled" us but didn't actually school us beyond basic reading/writing and some math, didn't socialize us or teach us anything valuable, are also hoarders

>parents try to randomly put me in highschool, I fail bc it's too hard for me not understanding any of the work and having crippling social anxiety
>get my GED at 19
>get my first job at 21
>take some college classes, fail most of them
>quit job after 2.5 years bc they were treating me like donkey shit and overworking me to the point I couldn't get schoolwork done
>dad wants me to get a degree but is also mad at me for quitting my job (pick one asshole)
>fail class anyway
>don't work for 9 months (tried to find a new job but no one would hire me)
>no references, hardly any experience, no skills, no education (besides GED), no social skills
>finally got a job at the beginning of august, but it was temporary and ended
>trying to get a job again, no luck
>no room in my house for anything bc of parents hoarding, serious mold problem in closet in my bedroom, can't sleep bc I have to keep my window uncovered (otherwise my room fills up with mold smell) so sunlight keeps me awake
>also parents are fucking loud 24/7, mom literally watches TV 24/7 can hear it from my room
>no shower, have to go to the gym to shower which is a pain in the ass, which makes keeping up hygiene hard, which effects my ability to keep a job
>dad continues to grill me for not having a job, but also wants me to get a degree, despite having done nothing my entire life that would help me accomplish either of those things (and still to this day does nothing that would help me, like fixing our shower or getting rid of the mold)
>no friends either, friendships are way too hard to manage for me

I'm pretty sure I'll be a NEET for the rest of my life. even if I do get a job it won't be enough to support me without living with my parents. I'm too dumb for university too. I'm seeing a therapist right now but it hasn't helped much.

No. 472760

>>472751
you have to move out anon!!! your parents are toxic and will never let you go anywhere in life,also considering you've had a number of jobs and education you are a way above a average NEET

No. 472767

>>472760
I know and I really wanna move out, but I don't know how I'll ever do that bc I don't know how to get a job that will make me enough money to do that. my therapist keeps trying to get me to pursue a trade and I don't know if that's what I really want, but at this point it might be my only choice pretty much. I also feel this weird dependency on my parents? like even though I resent them and they're holding me back I feel like I need them.

I'm also too fugly for a sugar daddy so that's not an option for me either lol

No. 472793

>>472585
I'd love to be NEET with a master wtf

No. 472833

I graduated last year and haven't found a job in that time, though I've never worked before either. I did get diagnosed with autism since, which explains a lot of my issues including bad anxiety, but the psychiatrist who said he'd refer me to people who can help with applying to jobs and group therapy for anxiety basically ghosted me. So I have to figure things out alone.

I draw well enough to appeal to some people and I make jewellery I've gotten compliments on, so I'm working on starting an etsy shop. I'm genuinely excited about it and the idea of gaining some skills through it (plus a bit of money, hopefully), but I can't help but feel guilty. I feel like I'm taking the easy way out, like Phoebe Tickner running her shitty "business", or Holly Brown starting new dumb ventures all the time so she can avoid working a real job. I feel selfish and lazy, and my mom has outright called me those things.

No. 472844

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For everyone in this thread

No. 473175

Struggling ex-NEET here. I was a NEET for 3 years and finally broke free into semi-functioning-normie-hood a year ago. I work a 9-to-5 job which I enjoy, I like the people I work with and I'm generally good at convincing people I wasn't a total hermit weirdo for years of my life. But still, every weekend that rolls by, unless I have something social to do with my time, I revert back into the disgusting basement dweller I used to be: I'll sit watching netflix in my pajamas for two days straight eating crap, chain smoking, drinking and avoiding all human interaction. I guess 'normies' do that too sometimes but as I don't have many friends this is generally the majority of my weekends. As soon as Monday morning comes around it becomes a real struggle to get up. I contemplate calling in sick, or just quitting cold-turkey and reverting back to my old NEET lifestyle. It was the most boring 3 years of my life, and I dread every weekend I'm on my own, but I can't seem to snap out of it. I called in sick yesterday because for once I genuinely was, and today getting up was almost impossible, I got up with 10 minutes to spare before I needed to leave the house.

I hate how much of a struggle it is to do normal shit. I keep reminding myself I was bored out of my mind and I cannot afford anymore gaps in my resume, but I'm starting to look for reasons to quit my job and/or jump in front of a bus. I've gained 10lbs in the past month and I haven't been out with my friends since late August. Does it get any easier?

No. 473237

>>473175
Sounds like you have untreated depression.

No. 473245

>>473175
I unfortunately don't have any advice for you but just wanted to say that I was in the exact same boat as you but instead of going back to work I did quit cold turkey and went back to being a full-time NEET and it fucked my life up quite a bit. Hope you can hang in there, I'm sure it does get better with time as long as you keep going and don't give up like my retarded ass.

No. 473255

does anyone here have ex-Neet Success stories so that I can get motivated/Inspired ?

No. 473284

>>473255
Be your own inspiration

No. 473329

>>473255
motivation's gonna get you nowhere, build discipline.

No. 473331

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So here's my .02 blog post.

I've never had or wanted a job beyond a few retail part time stints in high school. That was enough for me to realize that it's impossible for me to be happy in traditional employment.

I do about one freelance gig per month, which is enough to sustain my lifestyle traveling around the world and pursuing my creative hobbies.

I am "poor" by Western standards, a bit scruffy and maybe I eat a lot of rice instead of restaurants, but I am free. I don't have any demands on my time or emotional labor. I don't have to spend my time interacting with coworkers or staring at a computer screen generating money for someone else.


If you actually have motivation, goals, and the brains to scheme to achieve a lifestyle for yourself, being out of education, employment, or training is actually a blessing.

If your only hobby is watching Netflix, then of course you're depressed and squandering the gift of life and the human potential.

The difference between NEETs, entrepreneurs, and artists is all about mindset.

If there's a will, there's a way.

No. 473337

>>473331
That sounds great but… you know successful freelancing is harder than getting a regular job for most people, right? It's not like you're addressing a bunch of skilled, motivated people who just don't realize they can make a livable wage working once a month and travel the rest of the time. That's a dream come true by most people's standards, not a first step for people who can't get a regular job.

No. 473369

>>473331
I'm pretty sure the vast majority of us just want stable employment,a group of small friends that have similar niche hobbies as us and a Understanding nice SO

I don't wanna travel the world and be entrepreneur/freelancer I just want to be a normie

No. 473385

>>473331
you don't have any motivations or goals either, you're just scrounging for money and trying to brag to strangers about how amazing your life is and how "free" you are when you didn't mention anything about a long term plan. you sound like a naive camgirl.

No. 473459

>>473331
Do you live with your parents? What kind of 'gig' can you do once a month that would pay for rent, utilities, insurance, and travel?

No. 473500

>>473245
Thanks anon. I'm sorry things went to shit for you. Best of luck getting back on track.

>>473237
I mean I do for sure, I can't afford therapy and my doctor won't change my meds even though they don't help, he just ups and lowers the dose every few weeks. I feel like depression is kind of an entry-level requirement for being dumb enough to become a NEET.

No. 473506

>>473385
At the very least it seems like they have things they're passionate about. Hell people can even be passionate about watching shows on netflix or whatever but really most NEETs are just killing time instead of doing the things they enjoy, which is why they hate it so much. Of course there's the money aspect but the truth of the matter is NEETs hate being by themselves, and don't have anything they enjoy. Why would they toil looking for work or friends if they are, at a baseline, not even happy?

Nobody truly enjoys wage slaving unless it's their dream job, I'd rather be like that anon instead of having to go to 9-5 every day

No. 473508

>>473331

you speak like someone who has a seminar ticket and used car to sell.

No. 473509

>>473508
Totally agree. Or she is a camgirl.

No. 473510

>>473506
>Why would they toil looking for work or friends if they are, at a baseline, not even happy?
I can only speak from my experience, but my main driving force for escaping neetdom was because I wasn't living up to societal expectations. I very much preferred my own company (still do) and I definitely pursued my own interests and hobbies. However I was completely beside myself with guilt for my lifestyle while others would work and suffer.

No. 473514

>>473506
who said anything about friends, them talking about being "poor" and then going on to try to brag to us when they have no back up plans or long term goals has nothing to do with friendship. do they have a car or house or health insurance? what about savings? all anon mentioned was some instant gratification holier-than-thou shit.

No. 473522

>>472713
This is why modern capitalism sucks and should be replaced by a better system. What place does the money-making system have for people like you?
After you've been exploited sexually, you either get to literally pay for being traumatized by going to expensive therapy just in order to earn a living (read: buy products and contribute to the economy), or you remain a social pariah.
It just adds financial exploitation and labour exploitation to sexual exploitation.
FUCK THAT FUCK IT FUCK IT FUCK FUUUUUUUUUUUUCK

No. 473523


No. 473525

>>473523
Yes, wanting to improve the situation of someone being sexually assaulted by a family member is such a meme! Ha, ha… ha…

No. 473528

>>473525
nta but i don't think capitalism has any affect on anon's situation.

No. 473532

>>473506
idk, anon is living a very unsustainable and tumultuous life, i'd really rather not. stability>>>>>>>>

No. 473533

>>473528
Are you for real?
The social system you live in is crucial for your entire course of life, big and small things included.
But don't listen to me, just imagine how different your life would be 100, 200, 1000 years ago. Or move to Saudi Arabia or China or something.
I still can't believe you're for real.

No. 473536

>>473533
so are you advocating capitalism or? you sound extremely uneducated.

No. 473542

>>473331
this reeks of cope

No. 473548

>>473536
To answer your question:
I advocate we move on to something better than capitalism. Something that is less economy-oriented and more centered on people and the environment. We CAN do better than this.

To respond to your insult:
I've read the works of Marx, Engels, Trotsky… I've also read Adam Smith, Kaynes, Kotler… have you? You should.

No. 473558

>>473548
Good luck hoping for a new economy to pop out of thin air lmao

No. 473559

>>473548
again, uneducated.

No. 473565

>>473558
Defeatist
>>473559
Rude

To what are you defeatist and rude? To the idea of giving a sexually abused victim a better environment.

Whyyyyyyyyy????

No. 473567

>>473565
You sound autistic. People like you also sound like religious nutters.

No. 473568

>>473567
Um, why are you insulting me? Which buttons did I push exactly?

No. 473569

>>473568
How am I insulting you?

No. 473571

>>473569
Would your ever have the ovaries to say what you said to me to a stranger IRL?

No. 473572

>>473571
get the fuck off the site you autist newfag lmfao. you sound like cows who cry about everyone being cowardly anons.

No. 473578

>>473571
Yeah I would you autist. Go be triggered somewhere else.

No. 473588

>>473572
>>473578
I literally can't believe I'm getting juvenile insults on a forum filled with women for criticising the way incest sexual abuse victims are treated and suggesting we can do better.
What the actual fuck.

No. 473591

>>473588
stop trying to rope the poor anon into your agenda. no one gives a fuck about what you're saying regardless of the subject. just accept it.

No. 473596

>>473522

Communism is what condemned me to neetdom, you really don't know what a lack of opportunities and state enforced stagnation and oppression does to people and to mass psychology.

But not like it matters, obviously neet threads attract that kind of sperging and i guess some just want magical utopian faeries to swoop in with the gibs, but it would be best to keep it about our individual experiences rather than for political zealoting. It doesn't even matter where you live or your income, there's all sorts of people going trough neetdom for different reasons.

No. 473597

>>473588
Even though I do think you're a sperg anon don't worry about it. The farmers replying to you trying to set you up for a drag are just as cringy as you are. A lot of the farmers here unironically suffer from personality disorders.

No. 473601

>>473597
stop. you're sperging enough in the other thread as it is. leave if you don't like the company you keep.

No. 473604

>>473591
I'm literally the only one staying on the subject by criticising the system that gave birth to the concept of Neetdom.

>>473596
Communism is not the only alternative to capitalism.

No. 473606

>>473601
i've been on this site since it was created newfag. just because half of you are spergs doesn't mean all of you are

No. 473615

>>473604
Have fun believing in your economic system which doesn't exist. It's like a magic sky fairy.

>>473597
Your mom suffers from a personality disorder

>>473588
You definitely seem like you have autism now

No. 473622

>>473615
>Have fun believing in your economic system which doesn't exist. It's like a magic sky fairy.
You-hoo-hoo-hoo may say I'm a dreamer, but I'm not the only one…
Planes, computers, free negroes and working women, all thought to be impossible once.
But we did the impossible. And we'll do it again.

No. 473631

>>473622
just get a job

No. 473634

>>473631
What kind of a retort is that?

Just ride a carriage instead of a plane. Just write and calculate by hand and communicate by post. Just serve you white master / husband instead of being independent.

Just don't question the status quo.

No. 473635

>>473604
>the system that gave birth to the concept of Neetdom
if you were a neet in Soviet union, you were literally useless scum lower than the low wtf kek. you should hear how my grandparents speak of anyone unemployed longer for like 3 months lol, and they're the kind who still somehow manage to romanticize Soviet times. commies from countries with no commie regime past are fucking incredible. go read your dreamy literature some more and stop roping the child abuse anon into your arguments. someone forgot the whole "from each according to his ability, to each according to his needs" mantra kek (which was a code for "go work 50hr/week in a concrete factory unless you're missing more than 2 appendages" btw).

No. 473636

I am >>473331 OP.

I posted here because people want to boohoo about -society- and capitalism, when really the problem is themselves, and the course of actions they are taking with their one precious life on earth.

You can rage against the machine all you want, but you have to operate within the framework of the life you are given.



>>473509
Nope lol, not a camgirl, I work as a freelance video editor.

>>473459

Cost of living in Asia and
South America is much lower than the US. My only expenses are rent (300 USD) and food, which is as cheap as you want it to be. Cooking is fun.


>>473385
>>473514

I have tons of goals and plans in life that I'm actively pursuing, I'm just not going to blog post them because no1curr.

"A car or house or health insurance" aren't essential for life, it's only necessary if you design your life around the need of those things.

In fact, you can have more savings if you aren't obligated by these possessions.

>>473369
>>473510

Valuing stability over adventure or freedom is totally valid dude. If it is your path to happiness, I wish you the best.

No. 473638

>>473631
>Have several licenses
>Apply to have 300 jobs a week
>Have resume evaluated by experts
>Still no call or emails back, some places even require me to take up to several hours to finish their application but ignore my application when I complete it
>The only interview I have is a shitty fast food manager job and it's not glamorous, what I went to college for, or even what I want but it will do until I move to a new city next year

No. 473639

>>473635
I'm from what used to be Yugoslavia. I'm also an oldfag. We thrived during communism, and I'll admit being nostalgic for it.

Communism didn't crumble because it was a bad system, but because we lost the Cold War. And by we, I mean Slavs. They tore all our lands into smaller, less threatening pieces. Since the victor writes the history, communism=bad, capitalism=good.

But that's not the truth, just propaganda. Truth is, both systems are flawed, and both have good sides. If people were not so irrational and confrontational, we'd easily nice away from these labels to forge something better than both.

No. 473640

>>473639

But Yugoslavia was the only one in the commie block that had anything resembling a market economy and free market competition though. It wasn't the marxism that made You guys more successful than other neighbors in the axis who idn't escape the collectivization policies of Moscu, and what made Yugoslavian model different was the also git it antagonized by the soviets with purges , assasination attempts and all the works for not being commie enough.

This have gotten to off topic though.

No. 473643

>>473639
>the victor writes the history
Both the US and Russia won WWII, yet while the western part of Germany flourished, the people in the communist east were living in poverty and under constant surveillance. It's quite clear what works and what doesn't, one victor managed to nurse the loser back to one of the most successful countries on this planet, but the other only continued oppressing them, slowly but steadily ruining every last bit of economical strength they had left.

No. 473646

>>473643
Why is then Kenya not as successful as the US or Germany, after all they're all capitalist countries? Why is commie China more successful than capitalist Kenya? Come on dude.

>>473640
>market economy and free market competition
No, we didn't. I remember the opening of the market came as a shock to me. We were not an exception nor anomaly. We were proof it can work.

No. 473652

I got out of NEETdom by becoming a security officer. I got my boyfriend to become one as well. We couldn't take the manual labor jobs that paid like shit anymore, it tore us down. Too much demand, and we came home burnt out. Both of us would be unemployed for a few months in between jobs because of how much was expected out of us. Now we just are paid to watch cameras, drive a patrol vehicle around for a couple miles, and tell people where they need to go.
It feels good to have some energy when you're out of work. Seriously, definitely apply to see if you'd like it. My only advice is to avoid any hospital positions.
During training, you'll notice a lot of people in the field are former NEETs as well and then there's a couple of people who think they can be cops or are former cops, but they go off and do their own thing and are usually at armed sites, completely optional training but you do get paid more if you're into that.
Rarely do I have to work with another officer near me at all times, if someone gets too annoying, I usually just walk away and patrol somewhere else. The best part is I'm essentially still doing my job. As long as you're clocked in and your presence is known, you're good. You get to take breaks on your own time, too.
I am a soft spoken, socially anxious person, but this job really doesn't require much. Just do your patrols, which mainly requires walking, sitting, and observing. If anything bad happens, you're advised to just go ahead and call 911 instead of being the "hero".
I get paid $13 an hour doing this shit, unarmed, where minimum wage is just above $8. It's so freeing, anons. 4 years doing this common sense shit and I'm almost eligible to apply for higher paying positions, like field supervisor, where all you're doing is driving site to site and checking up on if they need anything, like office supplies, car stuff, uniforms. You're basically just going around collecting info to relay to the main office. I am pretty sure they get paid $18+ for this.
I love it.

No. 473663

>>473646
>he was the only leader in Joseph Stalin's time to leave Cominform and begin with his country's own socialist program, which contained elements of market socialism.
>Economists active in the former Yugoslavia, including Czech-born Jaroslav Vanek and Croat-born Branko Horvat, promoted a model of market socialism that was dubbed the Illyrian model.
> Firms were socially owned by their employees and structured on workers' self-management; they competed in open and free markets.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josip_Broz_Tito

i can smell the larp

No. 473672

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I just don’t think I’m made out to survive in the American economy. They require too much extroversion and aggressive personality and workaholic values… I’ve had such terrible experience with 9 to 5 employment.
I’m daydreaming about going back to live in my third world country to teach English and do niche otaku crafts to get by. My family is neither poor or rich by third world standard so I wouldn’t struggle to eat or anything. Local tourism is cheap and there’s always fresh sea food. I want to just live with some very close female friends and we can go to the beach whenever we want.
My family would never allow this of course, unless it is to marry some chauvinist salary man.

No. 473687

>>473646
Because you can't compare any african country to a european one, they have completely different conditions to begin with. Germany is the perfect proof, you're just too blind to see (or too proud to admit you're wrong): same country, same people, yet completely different outcome.
Also, your definition of "successful" probably defers from ours: China itself might be rich, but nevertheless there are still millions living in extreme poverty. Not even taking into account factors like their pretty much non-existent happiness… Money isn't everything, quality of life is also essential.
I also don't like the US, but people unironically shilling communism in 2019 are either trolling or absolutely braindead.
Take off the rose-tinted glasses.

No. 473709

>>472833

As someone who’s also been ghosted by psychiatrists, knock that fuckers door down. Figure out where they went (one of mine up and retired out of the blue and left the country lol). Figure out a new psychiatrist if you can, otherwise call every other social service out there to find the resources that psychiatrist said was out there.

Having an Etsy, being creative, and self employment sounds lovely but get your health together before anything imo.

No. 473734

I'm 25 and have been a neet the majority of my adult life. I even did independent studies to get out of going to highschool. I became a mom at 22 but never worked a real job before that. I have 2 children and my partner provides everything. I could honestly be a NEET forever as long as our relationship stays strong, but that does not always happen. I'm starting to learn programming seriously and I feel very confident in my abilities improving. Hopefully in the future I can do remote work with programming or find a workplace that is not incredibly social. My reasoning for being NEET is my aversion to socializing with people outside of my family. I really do not like spending my time with the majority of people and have very little drive for social interaction . American work culture encourages people to get to know each other and to do things together outside of work which is really bothersome. I hope to avoid that as long as possible! I have a family member who gets seriously depressed if she does not have friends to hang out with on the weekends. You could say I am the very opposite of that. Hopefully I can acclimate to all of this as time goes on, but I am not excited about it.

No. 473739

>>473672
> Local tourism is cheap and there’s always fresh sea food. I want to just live with some very close female friends and we can go to the beach whenever we want

Sounds dreamy.

No. 473744

>>473734
You're not a NEET once you have kids, then you're a stay at home parent.

No. 473752

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>>472722
yeah I look at my parents who have both worked physically taxing jobs since they were teenagers and have all sorts of aches and pains. my mum works herself into the ground sometimes until she makes herself ill. they both work so hard and make little more than minimum wage. I look at them and it doesn't inspire me to join the workforce (beyond the few hours I do anyway)

No. 473753

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>>473739

nta, i'm just sad because thats also true for where i live, on paper it has so much going for it but in reality it is also the murder and crime capital of the world. The beach is only 30 min away from me and yet i haven't gone in like 6 years, i am scared to leave my house even to go to the corner, and after 6 pm everything is closed and it is a ghost town. Feels bad man.

No. 473762

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>fucked up at school through truancy and beginnings of an anxiety disorder, was barely there. left at 16 just scraping 3 GCSE passes
>wanted to go to college to retake my gcses or do art or media or fucking anything to be with my friends
>anxiety disorder with panic attacks made that impossible for me
>went to a centre 2x a week on a scheme called 'entry to employment'. spent my time with around 4 boys who were there for petty crimes. didn't belong there one bit. used to cry thinking of my friends at college while I was there lol. would go to the job centre occasionally while there but mostly we did jack
>took GCSE maths and an IT course with learn direct (any UK anons remember that?) once I left there
>NEET for real from 17-19
>first job as an admin assistant at 19. lasted mere months. too stressful
>NEET again from 19-21
>21-29 soul destroying cleaning jobs with bouts of NEETdom but at least I don't see many people and can get on with my work while listening to music/audiobooks. only work 4 hours a week in the early mornings sometimes late evenings. I earn around £32 a week lmao

I live with my parents and they're really supportive of me thankfully. I'm very lucky. my anxiety has been very bad in the past, with severe depression and feeling suicidal too. I have no friends and only really leave the house to go shopping and to work. I want to stop doing cleaning jobs and do something new but it scares the crap out of me. I worry I wont be able to cope or that my anxiety/depression will take hold of me again. I'm fast approaching 30 though and want to try something new, I can't stay this way forever.

No. 473767

>>473762
You have to find some activity to Involve yourself in to make friends,take up conga dancing,Knitting hell even try Karate or Judo but you gotta find something to involve yourself in

No. 473863

>>473767
I know, I know. I would love to join a yoga class actually. one reason I don't do this is because I think people once they get to know me will think I'm weird or that I'm boring or pity me because of my life situation

No. 473877

>>473863
You don’t need to share your situation with anyone. Do not make that a preset for trying. If you decide to take the chance to talk to someone/make a friend, you will likely find that they don’t care. We put too much emphasis on the things we find abnormal about ourselves, but in reality most people have these fears. If you decide to take up that yoga class (which I think you should!), you’ll probably feel a lot of anxiety first, but you will organically have small interactions with others, which can only help you grow. Baby steps first. Don’t let your fears control your ability to search for happiness, if that’s what you want for your life.

>former neet of 10 years, now living a “normal” life.

No. 474210

I was NEET from the ages 14 to 20, I literally did not go to high school at all and just got my GED when I turned 18. Today I quit my job of almost 2 years and I am not 100% sure what to do with myself now. I have more than enough money to not work for many months since I still live with my mom. I intended to do this anyways since I hated the job ever since I started it and grew to hate it even more with new horrible supervisors. I don’t want to work retail ever again but I have no real ambitions or goals in life. I’m honestly very afraid about my future and I don’t know what to do next but I don’t really regret quitting my job either.

No. 474211

>>474210
Get a Job that you know you might like in a chill place

No. 474240

I feel like I live in a weird normie/neet limbo. I have a career, pay my bills, live by myself in a place I pay for… But I also have no friends, no man wants to touch me with a 10 foot pole, and I spend 90% of my free time playing video games. Every day I feel like it gets harder to get out of bed and go to work. All I want is to be a shut in for ten-ish years then kill myself, but I keep going for some reason. I think I'll snap some day and just kms instead of neeting out and enjoying some hermitism for a while…

No. 474324

>wake up to automatic negative thoughts
>first depression shower at 5:30am - not too long tho bc Mom needs to get ready for work
>impending panic at the state of my life and no clear path out
>read imageboards and reddit until I fall asleep again
>wake up again at 8
>2nd depression shower and smoking weed in bathroom or lying in bed until bf wakes up around 10 or 11
>wash face/brush teeth ane throw in clean sweatpants and huge t shirt
>run any errands such as buying more cigarettes, weed, or candy
>run errands while smoking weed
>get home, smoke more weed in the bathrom
>eat snacks and candy until nap time around 3
>wake up again at 7pm, maybe cook dinner, maybe get fast food, eat
>smoke more weed in our car, parked in a space near my home bc I don't want my mom to see how much weed we smoke
>get home, eat some bullshit snack or leftovers
>fall asleep around 11pm
>sleep for 3 hours, rest of night spent in fitful sleep until 4-5am
>repeat

Either this is a blessed life and I need to embrace it and be happy or I'm a complete piece of shit and I need to change everything about my life right now. I'm almost 30 fucking years old. Someone please press rewind

No. 474373

>>474324
where do you get all the weed and snack money? sounds like you spend lots of money per day

No. 474383

>>474240
do you want friends and a man or do you feel bad for not having them because of societal expectations?

No. 474390

>>472195
Ugh, this one hit close to home for me. Only I'm even older, I'm 34. I recently applied for a couple of jobs at a grocery store, but I dunno if I'll even get hired, considering my lack of experience and education.

Maybe you could apply for disability due to your chronic illness. I'm sorry you're having such a shit time dude, I understand though. It might sound stupid, but some sort of therapy might help? I had to be upped on my meds, and it's helped me. I dunno if you can afford that though, or if there are any alternatives to where you can get therapy on a sliding scale/for free.

As for friends, it may not seem like much, but you can always rant to us on here.

No. 474420

>>474240
Anon are you me? I have a career that might allow me to work remote and while it's nice the only social interaction I'll get is with my family and the supervisor. Also doesn't help living in a small town filled with boomers and couples w/children. No friends to watch youtube vids with or go to the beach, no bf to cuddle… I honestly want to do the same as you but killing myself would devastate my parents.

No. 474447

>>474324
Your life is boring because you made it that way and your "depression" is you feeling rightfully empty and sad because of your own inaction and self-indulgent stagnation

No. 474451

What are some good NEET recovering resources ?

No. 474539

Got a job in my dream career (which was fairly niche) back in 2013, moved out of my abusive parents' home. Then developed some medical issues, lost that job, and had to move back in with my parents.
I really haven't recovered since then. I had a job for a couple of years (2014-2016) but I've been unemployed for 3 years now.
I do odd jobs and take commissions at least but I feel so pathetic. My friends are all getting PhD s and whatnot and even though they're understanding of my situation I still feel so disgusting and pathetic.
I know that I got dealt a very different hand than people who don't have any learning disabilities or major medical issues and didn't grow up with a violent alcoholic dad but still.
I've been working with a social worker and I'm gonna get set up with a vocational rehab program once we get some paperwork stuff sorted out so there is a light at the end of the tunnel but it's so hard to see it.

(I've also started to become very emotionally volatile about my art, which makes getting it done harder. I'm pretty good for someone who never had any formal education in it and it's the only thing that keeps me from feeling completely worthless.)

No. 474549

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No. 474552

>>474324
You live at mom's with your boyfriend, whom I presume give you an allowance for your weed and candy since you didn't mention ever having to go to work.
You have access to a car and the ability to drive it.
You have tons of time.
You mother tolerates this kind of lifestyle.

Yes you have an incredibly charmed life that you are squandering because you're unmotivated and too cozy with routine.
Why not research some activities or low cost hobbies you could do in between naps and munchy runs? It's not like weed dulls inspiration and imagination.

I agree with other anons that you are making yourself depressed. You feel no purpose because you're not assigning any to your life.

No. 474560

>>474324
what do you want your life to look like? since you use the word depression it suggests you want something to change in which case I'm sorry but you gotta cut down on the weed. If you have the luxury of not having to work then what about studying something, doesn't have to be a full on full time degree, could just be part time or evening classes in something fun like art or creative writing. or a part time low stress job or volunteer work or anything

you can either go about it by changing one thing at a time or you can do something drastic like apply for a course or a ob that would force you to move out and change everything all at once. but yeah start by thinking about what you would like your days to look like.

No. 474561

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I finally got a really great job, the whole team are absolutely hilarious, and our training consists of parties and playing board games. I finally feel like I have a job where I don't feel lonely for once.

I'm also applying for university, fortunately my partner and his mom are really smart people and can help me with the whole process. I'm planning to get in with a test though, but there's a lot of math, and I am hopeless at math. I hope I do well though.

No. 474563

>>473762
same anon, I was grouped in with illiterate jobless boomers with an assumed criminal record at some dumbass "employment support" company just so I could continue getting government benefits because 0 out of the 100's of jobs I applied for didn't want a junior with less than 5 years experience

No. 474566

>>474324
>>474373
>>474447
>>474552
>>474560
First off, thank you for not being disgusted with me.
My bf gets money either thru working or thru his parents.
I cry evey day bevause my family split up a million years ago because my dad came out of the closet. Then he left the country for a decade. Before thay, he wasn't super keen on me anyway. My mom, who was once a soft place to land, turned to the bottle. My home life went from secure, to cold and desolate in the course of 3 years. Then I dropped all my friends. This is around freshman year of hs. I was bullied by one of my siblings growing up and as a result I was nkt o ly super critical of ,yself, but also of my peeers, and when I feemed them "lame," I dropped them. Then I stopped going to school. I can't really remember what the fuck my parents were doing at tbis point, and idk why they didn't guide me and help me. I eventually graduated by independent study. This whole time I am hanging out with stoners and kids drinking way too much way too often. My home life is the same - my mom let us drink at the house so sometimes my friends would be there without me present. My older sibling latched onto my friends (not really close friends, but the people I would get fucked up with at that point in time. Thinking back on it, none of them liked me anyways and zi didn't like them.) and as I isolated in my room, they created bonds. My mom was working and everything, but since the divorce she made friends with an ex's bar-hopping whore of a mother and that became my mom's past time. And mine became knocking hard on our shared wall when she would bring a one night stand home and loudly have sex. One time she hit me all over my head because I spoke up to her. Meanwhile before my dad left the country he's dating a man that's only a handful of years older than me, his youngest child. Now that he's gone, he's with a man who is even younger than me.
I'm drinking so mush at this point that idk how I'm alive today. I went to the hospital once when I couldn't stop throwing up. I was 18. I remember being surprised at how much the nurses gave a shit that someone well below the drinking age could end up like this.

Anyways no one asked for this but I feel compelled to get it out.
I guess my point is that I have never accomplished anything, I went to college on and off for like 2 semesters. I couldn't ealk to my classed without feeling like everyone was looking and hating me. So I stopped. No one cared enough to step in, so off I went. I truly thought I could fuck off school, my only responsibility, and I would be okay. Now I'm an empty shell of a woman who has 0 responsibilities and 0 accomplishments.
I wish I could explain what this cycle feels like. Being sucked back into my bed and letting another day pass. I feel like I'm in the middle of a bomb exploding or something and all I can really do is white knuckle it and cover my ears. No resources to spend on unctioning outside my front door.

My only shining baby step is that I started exercising for 30 mins a day, on most days,for about a year now. It's my bf's car that we drive around, and he is starting a new job after next week. I think once he gets his schedule locked down I will try a class, or even driving somewhere like the library, on my own. Then maybe I'll do a class of some kind. I would ultimately like to work a simple office job or something. I feel like a job is the end-all-be-all here and I will feel so much more valuable and less embarrassed if I have one.

This has got to be all over the place. I'm sorry for not proofreading. Also I'm sure there are a gazillion typos. Sorry. I'm poor bc I'm too useless and self indulgent to get a job despite my pain even thougbph every single other person has to and somehow does.

No. 474567

>>474566
must be nice being a neet with a bf,I wish I had one :(

No. 474568

>>474567
Idk how I got so lucky. He listens to me and loves the shit out of me. He doesn't think I'm a piece of shit and he's all the warmth that my parents don't have.
But eveyone focuses on what they don't have, I'm envious of anons in here who go to college and have pools of "normal" life experience…

I cry all the time when I see children and innocent, cute things. I went to a state fair and I couldn't handle the wholesomeness and I broke down crying. I had to explain that to my mom and sibling and niece who were there with me. I feel like an insane person. I know everyone carries pain, and a lot of ppl went thru way more fucked up ahit than me. So why can't I function???

No. 474582

>>474561
Math has to be practiced anon! If you can look up or ask around what kind of problems you'll have and then solve a heckton of similar ones! Good luck!

No. 474593

>>474560
I never answered this. I want my life to be taking care of my bf/husband, in a place of our own, gardening and cooking healthy foods, keeping up with finances, supporting my nieces and nephews, raising dogs and chickens, uwu homestead life. I don't actually want to work, but I feel like such a piece of shit bc I don't, and it may be the quickest solution. My bf is okay with being the breadwinner. I just have to wait for him to figure out how. He's been so close to a lucrative career but unimaginable bullshit prevented that on numerous occasions. Now I'm slowly growing angry and bitter because I don't have things I won't even work for. I hate myself

No. 474636

>>472793
master's degree lol, i wish i was in that kind of relationship

>>472710
hey anon i know this is a late response but i just wanted to thank you for replying. i've been thinking about what you said all week, and it's carried me through. have been less upset when things go wrong or when social shit goes badly. less sad about my teacher friend ditching me, too. you're a good egg.
i hope you are doing ok?

No. 474638

>>474593
You're unimaginably spoiled yet all you can do is complain about is what you don't have. I guess it's natural but it really disgusts me. You're like one of the super rich kids who complains about wanting to be normal. I feel like it's even worse because you have a loving boyfriend despite not contributing anything. If you were in my shoes I bet you would kill yourself.

No. 474653

>>474638
NTA but you’re literally just as cringey and awful as the anon you’re replying to. congrats on winning the award for most tragic and pathetic life, but nobody gives a fuck.

No. 474657

>>474593

I genuinely hope you can one day get to a point where you respect yourself enough that you don't limit your ambitions to playing live-in bang maid for a man who could leave you high and dry at literally any point. You probably don't believe it, but you're capable of so much more.

No. 474731

>>474653
This is a thread for recovering from NEETDOM not infighting

No. 474739

>>474636
Aw anon, I'm glad my kinda lame advice has been useful! And that you have had a decent week! It kinda felt like we're in similar set ups (well, I'm just an undergrad but still) so I wanted to like let you know you aren't alone and others understand even tho I'm not the best at advising. Also if your teacher friend doesn't want your surely delightful company, it is his loss and your dog is probably cuter than his anyway!

I managed to attend all my classes and properly focus instead of zoning out, but then I kinda fucked up by not going to a workshop as I got there bit late and couldn't gather myself to enter the room alone and all. Had quality socialisation time at work however as my fav manager was on, he's like a funny yet very dysfunctional father to me kek.

Like I know the key is zoning out just a bit and understanding that no one ever notices you're that awkward/weird/etc, when I'm in a good mindspace it works and I'm golden, but then some other days (like workshop Wednesday) I feel like crying if someone looks at me lol. Hope the next week is good to both of us!

No. 474752

>>474653
lol my life is fine, not tragic. But I have to go to uni and I'm single so it makes my life unequivocally worse off than hers. Understand?

As for something contributing to the thread, I was kind of in a semi-NEET rut (took time at uni and worked only part time with an easy job) and what cured me was going WWOFing in South America.

No. 474759

>>474593
Realistically if you don't plan on having kids but still want a breadwinner husband to foot all bills while you go through life never getting a job: this dynamic will breed resentment and put too much stress on one person's shoulders. Eventually arguments will turn into you being reminded that you contribute nothing.

And it leaves you really vulnerable , if you break up what happens to you, where do you live post break up when you have no income or job skills of your own? You can't rely on that as a stable life plan. Relationships end all the time, marriages too

Last year I faced homelessness when my seemingly perfect long term relationship ended, I realised that years of depending on a guys income (at his insistence) had chipped away at my self esteem. Independence is worth the hard work

No. 474763

>>474759
>Realistically if you don't plan on having kids but still want a breadwinner husband to foot all bills while you go through life never getting a job: this dynamic will breed resentment and put too much stress on one person's shoulders. Eventually arguments will turn into you being reminded that you contribute nothing.
I absolutely agree with this. Why should anybody be ok with financing another person doing nothing? Even if you cook 3 times (while he probably isn't even at home for lunch) and clean daily that still wouldn't amount to more than like 4 hours, meanwhile he should slave away at a full time job that makes enough to to buy you a house and support your lifestyle and your hobbies? Him snapping and throwing you out one day would be completely justified.

No. 474775

>>474763
>Eventually arguments will turn into you being reminded that you contribute nothing.
Even when she IS a SAHM there's a good chance she will get this treatment, men legitimately do not think of child rearing as anywhere near as much work as his 9-5. And they commend women for being housewives right up until it suits him to hold his earning power and tangible contributions over his wife's head.

But frankly if there's no kids involved, it's not a good look to be a stay at home partner. Just because someone is willing to finance your NEEThood doesn't mean you should accept it, they are either pathetic or have ill intent. No normal person would want to fully support another adult like that.

No. 474781

>>474775
My you don't sound bitter at all

No. 474783

>>474781
Uh yes, I am less than pleased by men turning out to be abusers who enjoy a powerless, financially dependent partner? What's your point?

No. 474788

>>474783
Just because your relationship turned out to be bad doesn't mean everyone else's is

No. 474802

>>474781
>>474788
Nta but that's so pathetic. You really think people are bitter and jealous because you can be a neet and anon doesn't have somebody to leech from? That's what you're proud of? What you have with your bf can't even be called a relationship. Anybody who's not a student, not working or childless deserves to get dumped. You have zero purpose or value. How can you call doing nothing a life? That honestly angers me. Your mom didn't go through the pain of pregnany and giving birth for you to waste your life like that while still being smug about it.

No. 474805

>be me half a year ago
>hopeless NEET for years
>dirty AF
>plague on teeth
>taste of death in my mouth 24/7
>doughy skinnyfat body that is starting to form a gut
>greasy skin like sandpaper and pores huge AF
>face white as a ghost but body has normal tan
>shouldijustkms.jpg
>invest my hard earned NEETbux to maybe get a bit of money someday
>two month fotward
>still no money
>still miserable and sudoku is all over my mind
>okishoulddosomething
>start to do bodyweight exercise and yoga almost daily to min three times a week for 20min
>buy meme skincare products like chem peelings and retinol
>start to brush teeth daily
>start to take iron supplements
>eat better
>today
>neutral taste in mouth even after sleeping
>face has color and the skin is soft and pores are less visible
>also face looks clean for the very first time in my life
>skin much tighter
>stomach flat, almost visible abs
>look like a normal 20 something
>my head doesn't feel so light anymore
>not tired anymore, no more day sleeping
>even made my first money yesterday
A-am I going to make it?

No. 474810

>>474802
t. wagecuck

No. 474811

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>>474805
we're all gonna make it

No. 474824

>>474805
I'm proud of you Anon! That's a nice improvement.

No. 474838

Don't know when this turned into a pro-NEET thread where posters think it's cool to swap living off your parents for living off a bf (or desperately wishing for a rich bf lol) The whole point of this thread is to get out of NEETdom

>>474805
Making good progress anon. Keep on top of dental care! A decade after leaving my NEETdom phase I'm just about finished dealing with dental appointments to fix all the neglect, been expensive

Have the iron supplements helped with fatigue?

No. 474861

>>474805
that's fantastic anon! Keep it up!

No. 474869

>>474802
nta but I didn't asked to be born and while I love my mom, I don't have to like my parents or thank them for bringing me onto this planet which I really wish they didn't. Retarded People like you that make such stupid points are so annoying.

t. not a NEET

No. 474878

People who go to college, how did you go down that path? Was it always a given? How did you know at a child's age how important secondary education is? How did you pay for it? Weren't you scared as hell to make a financial commitment like that at 17-18 years old?

No. 474887

>>474811
>>474824
>>474861
>>474838
Thx ily.

>>474838
Yes! I'm wide awake all day. Even in the morning. Feels like I have superpowers.

No. 474894

>>474838
I definietly don't think it's cool. I posted about more than my bf, anons just took that and ran with it. A literal troll post after my effortpost abt my life. I want to talk to ppl about how they overcame pain, or how they do it daily, in order to function. Everyone must do this. Why can't I?

>>474802
You weren't responding to me (bf NEET you're angry at) in this, but I agree with your feelings.

>>474775
>No normal person would want to fully support another adult like that.
Really? In this whole wide world, you think there are NO people willing to suffer working so their loved one(s) don't have to?


>>474638
I understand what you mean. I probably would.

>>474657
Thanks. I think about the high-and-dry thing often. I guess I accepted that if that happens, I'll be forced to get a job. It happened to people close to me before and that's how it goes. I guess I'll deal with that if and when it happens.

>>474752
I've been trying to understand your comment for a while now. Are you being sarcastic, or do you mean your life is "worse off" bc you have to work for a living?
How did you go to South Africa? I often daydream about going to a halfway house but for NEETS.
Like exactly what they have for drug addicts, with the rigid routine and slow integration into the workforce/society. As if I couldn't get any more pathetic. Or one of those ranch programs where you work your ass off in order to not be a directionless piece of shit.

>>474759
I understand whay you're saying about resentment. I'll keep it in mind.

>>474763
Because he wants to. Idk what else to tell you guys. He is okay with making the money.

What if I told you guys that he does like the idea of me being at home? And that I like the idea of being protected? Am I not allowed to feel this way? Can we explore this without hurling insults at each other? May as well throw in that we don't want kids.

>>47481
>>47488
These are not me btw

>>474783
I'm not powerless. Not every man is a creep.

I somehow didn't anticipate anons latching onto my boyfriend. I should've known better. Where do I go from here? I came in here to lay out my life story for some reason. I think I wanted pity from others after posting about my family. Pity and gentle help. LOL I hate myself

No. 474895

>>474878
uk anon so perhaps not the answer you're looking for, basically you only have to pay back loans once you earn over £21,000 and the payments are taken off your income before it gets to you, like income tax is in this country. you only pay back something stupid like 10% of anything you earn over £21,000 so it's manageable. also the debt doesn't affect your credit history or getting a mortgage or whatever. so as financial commitments go it was actually an option to get some kind of a life without working and mooching off parents.
as for knowing higher ed is important, well my granddad was called to study at oxford back in the days when they had to pay you to attend. he was a poor immigrant in the black country and his mother worked two jobs to get him elocution lessons and better his chances of social mobility. going to oxford changed his entire life trajectory - if he hadn't had that chance he'd probably have been sent down the pit for forty odd years. so it's always been really important in our family. i think most kids in the uk go on to higher ed though because of degree inflation. a bachelors is the minimum here now if you want a job that's not retail.

No. 474898

>>474895
Ah yeah, I should've specified USA anons.
Thanks for the reply– the importance your family put on university was enlightening.

My father wanted us all to be good little students like he was, but literally put no effort into educating us on the importance of college, pushing us into the right programs and directions, etc, much less how to pay for something like that, or god forbid, contributing himself to a fund. Then he gets disgusted with his loser American children and fucks off to China where everyone is an amazing scholar, and worth his time. I'm bitter as fuck that two people as intelligent as my parents didn't guide someone as intelligent as I am into secondary education. How do I stop being this pathetic? I wish I wanted to go to school. I don't.

No. 474899

>>474775
Years ago I was struggling with a disability that would affect me more some days than others. I had an arrangement of cleaning and cooking for me and my partner (and his son at weekends) while he worked, even on painful days I kept up with it and everyone was happy

Two years in when the honeymoon period ended and naturally you go from having sex twice a day to 2/3 times a week he starts arguing with me and telling me that I -contribute nothing- We already split other bills from the beginning but he demanded that I start paying half of the rent immediately. As someone on a small disability payment he knew this was impossible. Looking back he was only happy when he was getting sex every single day. Fucked me up when I realised that despite me cleaning, cooking and splitting other bills; I was -fucking for rent- in his eyes

I now own my own house and work from home, the independence feels amazing!

No. 474905

>>474899
That's terrible. How can someone be so callous? You really didn't realize he was a piece of shit before moving in with him and assuming care of his son (on the weekends)? And it didn't tip you off when he would allow you to do all the cooking while in pain?
I'm glad you got out of that shitshow anon.

No. 474914

>>474905
He seemed great for two years, we had one fight when I had a painful couple of days and he came home to a dirty apartment but apart from that he seemed kind, generous, on the weekends we'd often eat out somewhere and he'd pay for the 3 of us

Shows how men can suddenly change if they're not getting the exact amount of sex they want. I don't want to feel like turning down sex will cost me the roof over my head. Glad to be paying my way now!

No. 474915

>current neet living with parents
>started being a neet in HS
>left public school to do online classes
>my grades were horrible due to depression, missing most of my credits to graduate
>depression and anxiety was getting worse
>home life was shit
>taking online classes meant no reason to socialize or go out
>slowly stopped leaving house
>got fatter and fatter, now horribly obese (380+lbs)
>depression and anxiety is the worse its been, think about killing myself so i can stop disappointing and leeching off parents
>developed agoraphobia
>haven't left house in 8 or so years
>can't even answer the phone without panicking
>in the next few months mom is taking me to get my ID (never had one)
>will also be going to see doctors to try and get help
>am hoping to get on disability, welfare, something to help my parents with money while i try and get help

i feel like even more of a failure now even though i'm trying to fix what i've done to myself. in the back of my head, i tell myself that if i can't find a way to at least help my parents money wise, i might as well off myself to lessen their burden at this point

No. 474922

>>474915
If it helps to hear anon I was housebound with agoraphobia for years, I know it feels like a 'forever thing' at the time but you can slowly expand your comfort zone and start to go out little by little

It helps to have meds to take the edge off the anxiety and a family member to (quite literally) hold your hand in the beginning

No. 474926

>>474914
That's terrifying. I'm glad you found home within yourself then. What kind of parents raise these guys?? That's getting off topic tho.

No. 474931

>>474915
how old are you anon? I have a (male) friend in a similar situation who hadn't left the house in six years or so, like >>474922 said he took it in baby steps and has a part time job now, goes to therapy and feels a lot more positive. do you have a lot of online friends?

No. 474936

>>474922
these next upcoming months where i'll be going out to see doctors and whatnot is both stressing and scaring me, but also feels kind of good? i'm hoping something good comes out from all this

>>474931
i just turned 24 recently. up until recently, i had a small group of online friends but not anymore. i have trouble being social. i don't know what it is, i am very introverted i know that but keeping up with people and being social is always exhausting to me. i mean, i know it's my mental health that is doing this, but i can go days, weeks, not talking to anyone and i like that. i don't miss talking to people, i like being alone :/

No. 474937

>>474894
>LOL I hate myself
No, you don't. You clearly seem to believe that you're deserving of not having to move a finger while your bf totally loves to suffer working for you. Why do you need to be cared for? You're a grown-ass woman. What do you need to be protected from? The world outside is not as scary as you think. If you don't change that attitude you will never get better. Your bf is probably still putting up with you now while hoping you're bettering yourself but deep down you both know that this is just unfair and impossible to last.
Reading through this thread made me realize that most neets are not poor mentally ill souls but lazy and entitled womanchildren trying to come up with excuses to somehow justify that "lifestyle".

No. 474942

>>474936
you're still very young and you're not a failure. I understand why seeing a doctor seems scary but they'll be able to help you and it's a step forward. good luck anon!

No. 474944

>>474936
I know there's dread coming up to facing things like seeing a doctor or other appointments but I always remember experiencing real highs from achieving those things, from an agoraphobics perspective attending a doctors appt is like conquering mount everest.. if there's any silver lining to the situation it's the happiness that comes with those successes

You might always have something like social anxiety but exposure therapy really tackles agoraphobia

No. 474949

>>474894
You responded to 2 of my posts and I honestly have no fucking clue who you are or what your original post in this thread is. Imagine being so self obsessed you assume anyone making a general comment on dynamics in breadwinner/NEET is an attack on you and your bf, specifically.

No. 474962

>>474949
Ah sorry. ITAYRT I had this exact thought about my multiple posts itt. So stupid. I am self-obsessed. Idk which posts of yours I quoted, otherwise I would clarify. Even though really, what's the fucking point.
>>474937
I don't feel entitled to him working to support me. But I'll accept because you're right- I'm terrified of the outside world.

This has been exactly what I knew it would be. Humiliating. I knew that before I posted and I still did it.

I need therapy. I'm going to focus on my baby step for now and make sure to get up with intention, and to do my bike exercises and eat breakfast. I'm going to also make the steps towards getting back into therapy.

No. 474976

I think some of you NEETs have it better than you think. I feel like I can't be a NEET because I'm too deficient in some ways. I really NEED to travel and see people or otherwise I feel really bad. If you're fine with your situation and don't need to see people, I don't see what's so bad.

>>474899
Just curious, how do you work from home?

>>474894
Go to wwoof.net or workaway.info. Then buy a plane ticket and go there. You will have a lot of work to do. It doesn't seem like you're ready yet.

No. 475000

neetdom is frequently very unhealthy but a lot of neets end up in that position because theyre already unhealthy. loling tho at the incredibly salty anons who tie self worth WHOLLY to work, though who are calling neets names. they sound jealous for some weird reason. you can make money without being technically employed, but people aren't defined by their jobs, jesus. neets can get out of it. people in this thread that are calling depressed women names aren't going to inspire them to do better imo.

No. 475005

>>475000
Nobody is jealous of you neets, get that into your thick head

No. 475010

>>475005
nah, they clearly are, from both this thread and the stupid questions thread. being concerned for these women is one thing, but it clearly goes beyond that with the way these posts are phrased. making men who volunteer to support their gfs (usually) because they want control over women out to be "uwu victims of abusive neet women", etc. it's laughable.

No. 475015

>>475010
>making men who volunteer to support their gfs (usually) because they want control over women out to be "uwu victims of abusive neet women", etc. it's laughable.
Which one is it? "My uwu amazing bf just loooves slaving away at work to finance my life" or the guy who's slaving away at work to finance is gf who is doing nothing for him is actually the abuser?

No. 475019

>>475015
i dont think those men are wonderful. have never said it, i wouldnt want to put my faith in them, i have no bf and i'm not neet, but the women complaining about neets living off their bfs for being "leeches sucking off these bepenised saints until they snap uwu" is clearly just salty bullshit. most men who do this aren't angelic saviors. they're often manipulators. i wouldn't recommend women be reliant on men precisely bc of that reason and that critique is valid, but i don't think neet anons are vampiric soulsuckers with nothing to offer anyone.

No. 475034

Bf anon and the retards going off on her for being a leach are ruining this fucking thread. Can we just stop acknowledging her and focus on the anons trying to better themselves and work their way out of neetdom, since that's what the thread is meant to be. Jesus.

No. 475120

Some of you NEET anons are pretty sad. It's really pitiable. But why do I get the feeling that you guys drag others for random shit on other threads?

>>475010
No one ever said that people who finance NEETs are abused. Where the fuck did you get that?

>>475019
To each their own, so I guess some guys would like a NEET girlfriend. But it's frustrating that in this so-called age of feminism a lot of guys don't care about their gf having a career at all to the point they don't care if their gf has any kind of job or not.

No. 475127

This thread was supposed to be about helping us recovering from NEETDOM not this bullshit,Please I beg all of you to just stop this infighting so we can focus on bettering ourselves(namefagging)

No. 475132

>>475127
Why don’t you just find a guy to support you?

No. 475159

>>475132
Nice, I like your sense of humour. Add more oil to the blazing fire.

No. 475165

>>472051
I’m younger than everyone here, I’m 18 and pretty much ever since HS graduation earlier this year i’ve been living a pretty NEET lifestyle. I didn’t have many friends back in school, and now I only really have my online friends. I have college classes once a week at night, but other than that I just stay home. I had existing issues with my mental health that have gone untreated for years and I feel like being so alone just exacerbated them. I used to go out a lot to concerts and such, but i had a realization at one that everyone around me was having a good time around me, but i wasn’t.. so I left early. It’s really messed with me having that so I’ve avoided the 4 other concerts I had tickets for out of the feet that I would have another breakdown like that. I’m slowly trying to build up the… confidence? to finally get help for my issues with depression and such, and in the mean time I’m saving up for a guitar to be a new hobby since my old one of going to concerts has been ruined for me, kind of. I can’t really help my college situation, and the student body isn’t really my age group, so I’m just trying to hope i can throw myself into a self sufficient hobby. will help. My parents wouldn’t ever let me go full NEET, it’s either go to college or get a job in order to keep living with them, but being so solitary has exacerbated my issues so now I just feel like I’m just trying to make myself feel better until i can finally get professional help. Over the past few months since grad i’ve just been feeling so intensely suicidal and thinking about self harm for the first time in years, so I’m just a tad scared about that.

No. 475172

>>475120
>some of you neets are pretty sad
No shit? Why come here to shit on neets. This is a neet RECOVERY thread.

No. 475185

HELP I've been a NEET roughly a year and just got a call from a recruitment agency asking to meet since I applied for a bunch of jobs one night. This is the second time I‘ve had ANY interest since then.

But it‘s for more skilled occupations (need 2 degrees) and the only agencies I went to in the past were the no skill types where I just turned up on the day to be a server or something.

I don‘t know what to do AT ALL. Is it a proper interview?? The guy just said "come in for a chat".

Christ I need this, I‘m financially dependent on bf and he‘s been acting worse recently. I need this option to get out if it comes to it. I can‘t fuck up but it‘s been too long.

No. 475186

>>475172
I'm not shitting on NEETs. I feel sorry for them. I don't understand how people can live like this. I do shit on NEETs who think they have the right to drag people.

Or maybe I can. I had periods where I was semi NEET. (In uni but missing class and failing classes/working part time)

Here's what helped me to my currently busy life:
>Did yoga
I didn't do much but I tried to do some every week. I should do it more often now
>Worked on an organic farm
It showed me how important being active and social was
>Got a new best friend
My old best friend was not very supportive. I got a new best friend after reconnecting with an old friend and being roommates. Honestly this is what helps me the most and made the transition back to uni so much easier.
>Got on ADHD medicine
I'm diagnosed with ADHD but adderall is just so helpful in general, imo. It really helps with the tests/projects that I couldn't deal with before. It also makes you feel so much more confident

Is this helpful or not enough?

No. 475273

>>474582
thank you… I've slowly gotten a little better thanks to my boyfriend (math nerd)

No. 475279

>>474805
I'm really happy for you! Also make a note to see a dentist for a checkup if you're able to, it's very important

No. 475280

The thing about being a NEET and taking baby steps is that it feels like being acutely confronted with your inadequacy. Personally, I feel humiliated when I'm to focus on doing one simple task for my whole day, week, month. It's easy to give up based on those embarrassing feelings. Not only is it sobering in that regard, but it's actually difficult to pull off. It's kind of ironic that one has to take baby steps in order to build themselves up into a functioning adult.

>>475186
How did you get a job/volunteer opportunity at the farm? What kinds of things did you do? That sounds really cool.

No. 475284

Sorry for delete/repost

I just want to put it out there that I'm exercising rn after waking up. Then I'll eat breakfast bc I'm terrible at eating BEFORE I'm famished. Then a shower. Then tomorrow I will do the same thing.
I'm fortunate in that my dad will cover some therapy (bc he feels guilty…this sounds so depressing) I don't feel super comfortable asking so I'm giving it some thought first, but I know he will probably help.
Ugh I hate looking for therapists. But I've done it before and I can definitely do it again.
Previously I went to therapy, and that was the only thing. It was out of bed for my session, then back in my bed aterwards. This time I want to be actively taking uncomfortable steps irl and use therapy sessions to support me. I know I can let go of the family trauma I went through. I can feel my brain trying to expel it and move on. (That sounds insane but idk how to explain it.)

I want to be one of the people who say "I know you don't believe me but it really does get better." Anyway. Back to my baby steps.

No. 475285

>>475280
nta but there's an organization called WWOOF, which stands for World Wide Opportunities on Organic Farms/Willing Workers On Organic Farms and it's exactly that, a volunteer job at a farm of your choice! They provide you with food and accomodation. They have them all over the world, I've been planning to do this for a long time. They have different time options too. You've gotta pay for a membership for the service though (prevents people with malicious intent or people who aren't really serious about it from just signing up).

No. 475286

>>475285
Thanks for the info! I wonder how muh it costs in my area… I'm off to do some research!

No. 475290

>>475286
It's $70 AUD for 12 months for me, I think that's great because you can go for a month, then come back a couple months later if you're not busy etc

No. 475336

>>475010
>the stupid questions thread

Those posts/anons gave me some very much needed perspective on how ridiculous it is to be scared of the judgements of other people. Genuinely grateful for this experience.

No. 475401

>>475284
Anon, I'm proud of you and hope you'll be able to flourish in life.

No. 475651

>>475401
Thank you so much for your encouragement! I'm on the bike again rn. I felt so much better yesterday just bc I decided to commit myself to recovery from this lifestyle. Now, just to keep going when that positivity inevitably blows away. I like what another anon suggested which was to "put your brain on autopilot" when you have to do something but your brain is throwing a tantrum. It's very basic and even obvious advice, but for some reason the way she worded it has stuck with me.
Onto a shower and cooking a big breakfast for me and my partner.

No. 476013

I'm biking again! Pedalling my way out of neetdom

No. 476373

Who cares but I'm doing it again. Follow along w your own baby steps/routines my sweet precious neets let's do it together!

No. 476588

>>476013
>>476373
Good luck to both anons

No. 476613

Semi-recovered NEET. Maybe recovered but not normie status.(4 years, agoraphobia) I feel like I should be happier. I have a part time job, I'm being social again, putting effort into my appearance, seeing family, therapy, getting into new hobbies…. I'm still as miserable as I was being NEET but now it's just more stressful lol. Guess I keep my head down, keep on going, and hope it gets better.

No. 476641

>>476613
trust me anon It gets better

No. 476642

I push everyone away , but all i really want is someone hugs me and tell me its okay

No. 476645

>>474895
does that still apply if you're an adult learner? I went straight into training/a job instead of uni but went NEET for a while and am considering my options. I somewhat miss education for the structure and familiarity plus I want another qualification.

No. 476762

>>475280
>How did you get a job/volunteer opportunity at the farm? What kinds of things did you do? That sounds really cool.

I applied in the farm's website.

My duties were doing basic work around the farm for a couple of hours a day including cleaning. I was sick when I first got there, and I think the owner got kind of pissed that I wasn't doing much. However, it was winter and there wasn't that much to do.

Just google WWOFing or communes. I don't think you have to be qualified.

No. 476772

>>476762

working for a paycheck is shit enough but you actually go out of your way to do labor for free lol. Even better than hiring illegals, just get neets.

No. 476899

>>476588
Thanks! It was only me! Sorry for being annoying but I'm using this thread for motivation dammit!
I'm biking again today. I had a rough day yesterday but I'm on the bike today. And I will go inside, eat breakfast, and take a shower. Because that's my focus. I'm exploring what it feels like to have a bad day emotionally and not give up because of it.

>>476642
It'll be okay anon. Let someone in.

No. 476901

Also I decided to refer to my efforts tp get out of this lifestyle as "recovery". It makes it much more official in my head. Language matters. It's true.
Is that a little bit extra? Maybe. Is this life or death? Not immediately so, but definitely yes. So I'm in recovery. Maybe this will click with someone else like it did with me. Also, yes this is embarrassing. Oh well. It's less embarrassing than not doing anything to improve myself.

No. 476905

>>476762
ITAYRT and that sounds cool. I was initally turned off when you(? It may have been another anon) said it costs money, but it's not very much money. I live in a busy city with lots of farms, I may be able to find a free program yet. It's cool to speak to someone who already did it so thanks for the reply.

>>476772
You're missing the whole point from the neet's perspective, but yeah it must be nice for those farms to get the free labor and any tax writeoffs that come with participation in such a program. Oh well, you can take what you need from it if you're the type of person who would benefit from this type of work.

No. 476953

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I dropped out of college for the second time two years ago and was a neet for a full year before getting a task job at a beauty store, but even then I still pretty much lived like a neet cause I only got 8 hours a week. After 6 months I finally got a second part time retail job and was working over 30 hours a week and it was really difficult, socially a lot more challenging and I was screamed at/criticized by customers constantly and after the first few months we got a new manager who I was really incompatible with, she constantly misunderstood what I was trying to say and gave me conflicting instructions and I had a massive mental breakdown and quit on the spot after working there for 3 months. Since then I moved to my boyfriend's house to work on a project for his family and while I'm technically working doing art and design and occasionally traveling for the project, I still feel like a neet cause there's no clear structure, no w2 and I feel like this will be unusual job experience and not very useful to making myself a productive member of society the way an actual job could. Now I'm just relying on him and his family instead of my own. They insist it's no problem and I'm being useful but I'm making no progress towards my goals of being able to drive and rent an apartment. I wish I could have handled wagie life or college but I just can't manage any steps I know I need to take to improve my life and interest keeps piling up on my student loans and everything about it just sucks.

No. 477066

>>476901
recovery is a great way to put it! and it is true, changing the language surrounding the journey to your new and improved quality of life to be more positive makes all the difference. being a NEET shouldn't have such a "bad" perspective towards it, like other anons have expressed, majority of us became comfortable with the NEET lifestyle because it felt like it was the only way to feel safe, sometimes after a few bad experiences in the job world or just school being a drag.
after a while, we do realize, "maybe it's not so bad out there, but i don't know where to start exactly… or what's the safest way to approach this."
you got this, anons! there's tons of us former NEETs who want to you recover and we can help support your bravery.

No. 477118

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I have stopped being a NEET, after years of staying cooped up in my room. However, I truly do miss it.

I didn't mind being alone in my room, just reading shit on the internet and playing single-player games. Now I go to college(I enjoy what I'm being taught), get good grades and have a set of friends, but I get no enjoyment out of socialising with them. Even playing video games with them makes me annoyed, and I know it's not their fault.
I'm starting to think that human connections just aren't for me, even if I act welcoming and try to include others in conversations when I see them being left out.

My goal for now is to finish college so that I can land a comfy job/possibly become a webdev freelancer in the meantime, just to help my mother with the bills.

No. 477391

>>477066
Thank you so much for your support. It makes a world of difference even to have anonymous support. Such a nice thing of you to do and I want to tell you how much it means to me!

I'm biking rn. I was going to take off today, but I think it's more important that I stick to the schedule. I'm not doing a grueling workout by any means.

Other things I'm doing with great intention:
-Taking multivitamin daily
-Taking allergy meds daily for the first time ever
-Planning other small routines such as cooking breakfast on Saturday mornings bc it's cozy and makes everyone feel good
-going to a social event bc I know it'll make me feel better even though I'm scared. I'll keep in mind the "autopilot" thing another anon suggested.
It sounds like a lot of stuff to do but really after bike+breakfast+shower I do usual neet things such as lying in bed for hours and smoking weed all day. Baby steps. Be intentionally basic.

No. 477393

>>477118
I understand your feeling. Just do what makes you feel good anon. Sounds like you've got a good hold on yourself!

No. 477761

Stationary biking my way out of neetdom again this morning! I didn't want to do it but I literally have to. Tomorrow will be one week since I committed myself to recovery! I've slept better the past 2 nights. Hooray

No. 478882

>>473687
>people unironically shilling communism in 2019 are either trolling or absolutely braindead.
I was saying thar communism was good for it's time. But both communism and capitalism have no place in 2019. They're both corpses of ideologies. Both rely on labour as the driving force, which is ridiculous in this age of smart machines. We need something fresh that takes into account the mindblowing technological advancements that occurred since both of these ideologies were formed. Hence I posted the critique of labour-oriented economy here >>472242.
I also recommend reading "Player Piano" by Kurt Vonnegut. Maybe fiction will better drive my point across than a philosophical essay.

No. 478892

>>478882
you sound like one of them people of educated bg that go on to join a bizarro cult

No. 478898

>>478892
I am so tired of receiving weird ad hominems on my post. What's your point?

No. 479105

Biking anon checking in - I missed Monday because I had a bit too much to drink at a friend's Halloween party on Sunday night. It sucks because Monday was the 7th day of 'recovery' and I would've liked to be consistent but it was a good trade off for hanging out with friends and having a good time. Other than that I've been on track and feeling good. I actually felt bored yesterday which leads into the next step of getting back into my hobby. I don't want to rush it yet though.
Later I'll go to my sibling's house and hang out and while that feels a little awkward it'll be worth it to see them and feel good about it.
Happy Halloween everyone!

No. 479124

I got a job and a driver's license but I still have every other classic NEET problem… no friends, living with my parents at 26, and have never been a real relationship (closest I ever got was having a FWB for a month who pointedly did not want a romantic relationship with me and who flat-out said I wasn't girlfriend material because I was because I was too much of a loser)

I have no idea how to even begin to fix my social issues. I'm alright at being polite and doing customer service tasks at work, but godawful at any kind of interaction that might lead to making friends.

No. 479136

>>479124
do you have a hobby? I'm not trying to be patronizing but as an adult i find it is really hard to make friends outside of work/activities. Even just a little bit of social stimulation from a group helps work on those skills.

when I was lonely in college I joined a foraging club and honestly nobody in the club and I became very close but working together to find stuff and just chatting was nice. kind of like renting friends. I pick activities I can skip without guilt though like clubs or community classes. I find if I feel guilty for skipping (like if i'm paying for it) I avoid it altogether because I get overwhelmed.

No. 479164

I’d consider myself a slowly recovering NEET. I never really had friends because I was deaf and considered as the weird kid so I took to the internet. When I graduated high school I had high ambition and wanted a fresh start & applied for community college as I had college credit from dual enrollment and wanted the cheapest option. I enrolled as a full time student and had also gotten a full time 3rd shift factory job. That fall/winter killed me mentally and physically, I was an average A-B student and I had failed a class with 6% and slept through too many exams. I dropped out, started working from home for my step-dad’s business and even though I have my own car and earn better money than I would anywhere else right now, I feel like a failure. I want to be more than this, I want to get higher education but I hate the idea of being in debt.

No. 479193

>>479164
Ok rude question here, but how can you follow properly lectures/classes if you're deaf? This is a general question btw.

And you should take your vitamin D (I assume you already do this) and pack yourself really good with clothes if you want to avoid getting winter's depression.

Consider yourself highly privileged for being able to work at your step-dad's company tbh, because you're not really a NEET if you're employed btw.

No. 479199

>>479193
The school will provide me an ASL interpreter if I ask and most teachers I’ve had were pretty cool with providing notes if they talked too fast. I take my full range of vitamins no worries, but I may have to stock up on winter clothes as I’m in the basement. I do feel privileged because its right out of our garage so cost of living and travel is nonexistent, but the home/family combo can stress me out at times

No. 479378

The biggest issue I’m facing is that I’m an ACOA. While I do have a job I destroyed my personal life, going cold turkey from any social media and dropping contact with all of my friends. I just lived with my parents hoping things would get better but if anything the alcoholism and abuse got worse.

After a couple years I went to community college and it kind of helped with socializing, keeping me away from my parents, and I liked that my classmates were friendly but not close. But now some of my old friends are trying to get into contact with me again and I don’t think they realize how closed off I’ve become. I have so many ACOA traits, like being cripplingly indecisive and things like doors opening/closing loudly or the sound of cans being opened are enough to startle me. I’ve become scared of interacting with my friends but they miss the old me.

No. 479435

I graduated from NEET to advanced NEET by getting married and becoming a housewife. So far so good I think.

No. 479438

im so lonely, i cried about having no friends again today, i need to kill myself already, i dont think its ever going to get better

No. 479451

>>479435
housewives aren't NEETS retard.

No. 479453

>>479451
A NEET refers to anyone not employed, in school, or in training.

No. 479461

>>479435
Hell yeah anon as long as it's healthy and fulfilling for you and yours!!

No. 479485

>>479453
literally yes, but a lot of this thread is about hikkikomori tendancies and not just someone who doesn't work. if anon is able to function enough to do her housewife duties she's not a fucking neet.

No. 479490

>>479485
is this a cope to feel accomplished since you haven't evolved from neetdom whatsoever

No. 479493

>>479490
nta but probably yes, you're right.
Housewives are even worse because they pretend to do something. lol

No. 480313

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Reading things like this make me question why I'm even alive.
Do you know this situation, when you got asked (in school or at interviews) to name x good things about yourself but you genuinely can't come up with anything? There's not a single positive or even just ok trait about me, not the way I look, not anything about my personality, not anything regarding talent or skills. Absolutely everything about me is less than mediocre.

No. 480344

>>480313
lol you sound like me a couple of years ago. However, now I feel way different about myself. Just because you feel like you aren't good at anything doesn't mean it's necessarily true.

Also remember most people in this world aren't particularly good at anything and they do just fine. There are plenty of below average people.

No. 480386

>>480344
But it's not just that I feel like I'm not good, I know it, it's a fact. I'm not doing fine, I'm failing at everything.

No. 480396

I am so close to being a neet. I've been in university for like 5 years, I was supposed to graduate in 2018 but here I am, not graduating until 2021, if I can make it through my second attempt of the second year. I have an assignment that is worth 15% of my final grade that isn't getting done.

My parents forced me to go to university and I was lead to believe that I would enjoy it more than secondary school, I would meet people who understand me, I would learn to become a better person of myself. I never wanted to go to university to begin with, but I have no balls to just move out of my parents house and struggle with a minimum wage job, potentially having to share a house with a bunch of strangers who will likely stress me out even more.

To add to that, I lied that I was going onto the the final year of uni, when in fact, I have to repeat two modules of the second year. I'm supposed to be moving abroad in April, but now I'm trapped in a lie that I have been stuck in for months all because I wanted to get them off my back. not that it helped because every interaction I have with them is them stressing me out about how I can't fuck up my final year or they will beat me.

I've been dealing with depression since I was 13-14. I've had some counselling and I am currently going through cbt that I don't feel like is helping me.

My problem is that I have spent much of my life feeling horribly lonely and struggled to form relationships with anybody. I've never had any friends beyond being 11 and I am a complete social failure. I can't fathom the idea of anybody thinking I am a worthwhile person or anybody would want to talk to me. I have constantly had people make fun of me for being socially awkward and ugly, things I already believed about myself to be negative without anybody telling me anything.

I have never been able to relate with anybody, or trust anybody with my feelings. I avoid social situations as much as I can because it stresses me out so much to be presenting such a disgusting and vile representation of myself to the world. I person I would like to be is nothing like myself, and is proven to be unattainable since it would require me to completely change my personality and get a crap ton of plastic surgery to achieve it. I have trouble accepting myself and being comfortable in my skin and it has completely ruined my life.

I want from being a student who got really good grades to some retard who can't even focus in lectures, be punctual, look after my appearance. I'm just an irredeemable piece of shit that's too pussy to end everything.

I know nobody will read this, but I just wanted to express myself since I have so few chances to do so.

No. 480697

>>480396
I'm in the same sitation, anon. I take way too long to graduate (that is if I don't fail completely), I had very high hopes for university life and was more than just disappointed. I often think of just running away and working some simple, stress-free minimum wage job for the rest of my life.
I also don't have friends and I don't think that will change anytime soon, people are simply majorly put off by me for some reason. And due to my previous experiences I'm also always paranoid about people laughing about me.
I've read this quite often already on lc, that some farmers were really good students when they were younger and then just fail? No idea why, but just the thought of having to study or do shit makes me feel sad, I have zero motivation to do anything but eat and be online. Feels like I've wasted me entire youth.
I'm sorry that I can't give you any advice. I've tried to get better for years already but it only got worse and worse.

No. 480701

>>480396
>>480697
this sucks and I'm sorry you're both in this situation. university shouldn't be for everyone and there should be no shame at all in choosing not to go, or in choosing to wait and go in later life if your feelings change.

is there something you'd like to do better, like a training course or apprenticeship or something?

there's no shame in dropping out of something you hate to do something you want to do.

No. 480713

I was NEET for a few years after dropping out of high school. Just this year I got my GED and started attending college. I was confident when the semester started but I keep getting more depressed and apathetic as the days go on. Anons I don't know what to do. I keep feeling like I don't belong in school but I've never had a real job before and idk what to do at 21 years old with no experience if not school. I'm not above working at McDonald's but obvi being a wage slave is not what I would want for the rest of my life. I just want to feel like a normal person.

No. 480745

I guess this is unnecessarily negative or whatever but I hate when other neets assume a mcjob will be easy when they're too mentally ill to handle school. I had a massive mental breakdown and quit my retail job cause the pressure was too much where at least in uni there are usually student services and people willing to help you out or extend your deadlines if you ask, minimum wage is just endless pressure and people screaming at you all day. Speaking as someone who dropped out of college and tried to work retail without fixing my mental problems, you might as well just stay in school as long as you can. It's only going to get worse without the structure that college provides.

No. 480750

>>480745

Not negative, just realistic. Very necessary.

No. 480757

>>480396
>>480697
>>480745
>>480713
Now blame yourselves for being in that situation. Blame it on mental illness. Blame it on circumstance.

Just don't blame it on capitalism, because… stuff. If you question capitalism you must be a commie, and everybody hates commies. You're not a dirty commie, right? So capitalism rocks, and if your position in it sucks, it must be your fault, not capitalism's, right? Right. Everything is a-ok except you.

Now get yourself together and go make profit for some people you'll never meet while ruining our eco-system. That's the only way to earn a living and gain the respect of your parents and peers.

No. 480758

>>480757
kys retard

No. 480760

>>480758
Why? Elaborate pls.

No. 480802

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How do you find motivation be vaguely normie after living the NEET life for so long? It's been years and I still have zero desire for anything other than staying at home. Working is just something I do to get a weekend alone where I can do nothing. It's only gotten worse and I miss being alone more every day.

No. 480805

>>480802

Maybe you’re an introvert? Who cares if you like to be alone. Who are you trying to impress?

No. 480870

>>480757
Fuckin' A though

No. 481084

>>480805
It just makes life feel unfulfilling I guess. There's nothing to look forward to except going home and being alone, and there's no way to have that without some 40-50 hour a week wageslave hell. It feels like I'm merely tolerating the majority of life to get a couple days of recharge time.

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No. 481816

Monday will mark 3 weeks of beginning my recovery from neetdom. Ngl I feel I'm losing motivation and for the past 4 days or so I've contemplated skipping the exercise bike in favor of sleeping in. But I pushed through and biked every day, save 1 (I was too sore from a hike I did with friends so a good trade-off). Knowing that I did what I set out to do feels really good.
I think this is a good example of why sticking with baby steps is so important. It's only 30 minutes, I tell myself on those tough mornings.
I have started stretching afterwards since the hike. I think I will look up a 5-minute yoga routine to tack on to the end of my cycling since I haven't tried meditation yet and I need to stretch anyways.
This week I want to focus on all those things, as well as cutting down on weed consumption. If I don't stop smoking during the day, I'll never start my hobby again.
I do feel much better since starting my routine. My mom noticed too lol (really though it's a good feeling to know she feels better knowing that I'm working on myself and my depression).
The luster of this being new must be starting to wear off though because some ugly feelings have started to creep back in. God I want money and a life. Gotta stay diligent.
There's lots more but I'm gonna stop there.. Bless all you neets and former neets.

No. 481823

>>481084

NTAYRT but
>>480802
>How do you find motivation… It's been years and I still have zero desire for anything other than staying at home
&
>It just makes life feel unfulfilling… There's nothing to look forward to except going home and being alone
Sound like conflicting statements.
It sounds like you've found motivation to be a normie/social– the desire to mitigate the emptiness you're feeling.

Unless I'm misunderstanding your posts! It also seems like you might be asking how to cope with the fact that you have to work/be social for most of your week in order to earn time alone.
Are you cool with being alone or no?

No. 482234

>>481823
My bad, I probably worded that poorly. Basically, how do you find enjoyment in normal stuff when you just want to be a NEET? I like being alone, but I realize to get my alone time I need to be somewhat of a normalfag to make money. I'd like to be at a good "balance" in life where I can enjoy my work life/normie conversations and have it not feel like a prison sentence.

No. 482484

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currently missing my neet life
my insomnia is back too
starting to dread my job every day despite it being a job i always wanted to do
thinking of quitting
my mental went boom lmao hoping this shit ends soon and i sort myself out

No. 482492

Can someone compile all the former NEET success stories into a single screenshot, I need it for motivational purposes

No. 484270

I was a NEET for two years after finishing my undergrad. I'm back at uni in a Master's course, I haven't taken a single day out "just because I was feeling bad", I'm a student rep, I arrange meet-ups outside of class, and I have two extracurricular hobbies that I'm staying active in.

And I'm fucking miserable. I love being around all these people, but keeping all these balls in the air is so difficult. Any time I screw up even mildly, I want to retreat inside myself, and my house is a disaster because it takes all my energy to keep up my outward life. It was so hard to stop being a NEET, but now part of me just wants to go back. I feel like this is all a charade, I still don't see any possibility of success in my future. How can I lose the NEET mindset even after I've left my room?

No. 484627

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Out of all my neet treats, pic related is my worst, I also can't keep any studies, I'm not good with people.
Any form of knowing if my psychologist is scamming me?
He said I should get medicated but didn't mention what I have. It's my 6th setion so far and all he said is that I'm under too much pain to even take the bus and that I need something to ease my thoughts.

>Inb4 why don't ask directly?

I'm not good with people

No. 484629

>>484627
psicologists cant medicate people though, in that case you would be refered to a psychiatrist and he/she is the one who will asses you.

How do you know if you are not being wrongfully medicated or scammed by the psychiatrist? ah, thats the more difficult question, you have to inestigate very well each prescription you are given, if for example you are prescribed Xanax for more than a few days, get the fuck out. That actually happened to me once, shrink lied about the alprazolam and prescribed it to me for indefinite amount of time, luckily i didn´t follow through after researching, otherwise i would have been made a junkie by my fucking doctor.

No. 484650

>>484629
Big thanks, that is my biggest fear (to get a bad prescription). Yes he mentioned to ask a college classmate about me, a psychiatrist.

The inb4 was a mistake, I redid my comment and forgot to erase that. The inb4 was "why don't you directly ask what he thinks you have to prescribe you something?"

No. 484655

>>484650

Its very tricky when so much of psychiatry truly is shooting in the dark and hoping to hit something. It is not as developed as other sciences and it involves trial and error to find the best dosages, best treatments for your case. Educate yourself pretty well and it should be okay.

In the case of Xanax (alprazolam) like i said, be careful, shit is dangerous, it is a highly addictive depressor that changes your brain chemistry and becomes addictive super fast, the drug makes you feel like shit but the withdrawals from not taking it can literally even kill you. I was not only prescibed those for way longer than it needed to be but the dosage was super high too, scary stuff.

No. 484744

I'm a former neet. I don't really understand how it happened, it's like I turned 25 then everything changed, and 7 months later I have a job I enjoy in a field I enjoy, a gf, money, time, hobbies, skills, and almost no depression or anxiety anymore.

No. 484760

>>484744
congrats !! tell me your secrets, or at least what events happened to lead up to this situation. what field are you in ?

No. 484855

>>484744
is this that frontal lobe development my mom keeps telling me about?

No. 484861

>>484760
I'm a bit slow, sorry. It will probably take me about 5 years of introspection to fully understand how this happened lol. I'm finally just starting to figure my middle school self out. Why I was like that, why I wasn't like that, etc etc.

No. 484872

>>484744
DUDE it happened to me too. Idk, I thought I was screwed forever. Being a teen/early 20s is so overrated. So much insecurity.

No. 484908

>>484855
I know this is a joke but that shit was and still is wild to me. It feels different. Life is so much richer. I can pull my head out of my ass and notice the world around me! Frontal lobe development: 11/10 would do again. Makes life worth living again, makes you feel like a child again!!! But not without introspection and hard realizations and changes.

No. 484911

It's been 4 weeks and I'm still doing the exercise, eat, shower recovery routine! I'm feeling extremely better in many ways- socailly it's been much easier to commit and go to friend functions, I'm showered and ready to go outside my house every day so I can be more spontaneous than when I was in bed all day long, my thighs have gotten thinner, my mom and friends are happier seeing me be alright, I 'm sloooowly building a little confidence, and my mind is starting to crave other types of stimualtion , aka "the next step," which is reentering my hobby and hopefully making some income again. Stay strong to anyone who knows they are capable but have been hurt or abused or damaged along the way. It feels really fucking good to (start to) take the power back aNd grow.

No. 484912

It's been 4 weeks and I'm still doing the exercise, eat, shower recovery routine! I'm feeling extremely better in many ways- socailly it's been much easier to commit and go to friend functions, I'm showered and ready to go outside my house every day so I can be more spontaneous than when I was in bed all day long, my thighs have gotten thinner, my mom and friends are happier seeing me be alright, I 'm sloooowly building a little confidence, and my mind is starting to crave other types of stimualtion , aka "the next step," which is reentering my hobby and hopefully making some income again. Stay strong to anyone who knows they are capable but have been hurt or abused or damaged along the way. It feels really fucking good to (start to) take the power back aNd grow.

No. 485545

I know I'm an absolute piece of shit, but god damn I can't keep a job worth shit. I've only been able to get remote call center work that I don't keep for more than a couple months tops. The first one I took every hour off I could get and the second I quit as soon as we started taking calls. I found a new job a few months back that's freelance so I've just been working a few hours a week and I still can't keep up with it. I fucking hate talking to people non-stop. I need to make money so I can help with bills and save up for a car so I can get myself out of this rut and at least have options and go back to school or something but I'm such a worthless sack of shit I keep taking the easy way out and quitting. I have it so much better off than a lot of people and I'm really grateful but I fucking hate this job. If I encounter any setbacks I just fucking shut down and quit and cry. I'm sick of being a leech but I'm such a hypocrite when I take the easy route and quit. Like instead of just shutting up and logging into work I'm throwing myself a pity party as I sit here and cry and type this up to throw into the void of the internet.

No. 485772

>>485545
Call center jobs (or anything that is mainly customer facing) suck ass. Any time I tried retail or call centers I wound up quitting almost immediately after training was over. The only way I managed to get out of my NEET rut was to get a manual labor job that didnt require me to talk to people aside from coworkers. Highly recommend it to any NEETs who want to start working but dread corporate bullshit or psycho customers. Plus being physical is good for you and makes you feel better, too.

No. 485964

>>485772
What field are you in? I hate my office job and have always wanted to do something more physical.

No. 486052

>>485545
Woops, forgot to sage my rage. Sorry!
I went back to work today and everything went OK even though my headset kept breaking in and out. Slowly crawling my way out of NEETdom!

>>485772
Thanks for the advice anon! I'm curious what field you're in as well. Is it difficult as a woman?

No. 486338

I did way too much this week and last week and I had a neet breakdown about it yesterday. It doesn't help that my period started yesterday too. It's a good thing ultimately because I'm learning to deal with things and not shut completely down, but the growing pains suck. I need to refocus on getting up with intention in the morning and focusing on my workout. It's okay that this past week I took a few breaks and did easy workouts because the most important thing is that I get up and engage in my routine at all, but next week I want to pull back from social functions and refocus on it. Which works out perfectly because this Sunday is Friendsgiving so everyone will probably want to relax next week as well.
I'm nervous for Sunday because I want to be relaxed and go with the flow but I'm hosting and I don't-don't-do-fucking-not want to be agonizing for the next 3 days about what a pushy asshole I was at Friendsgiving, or what stupid shit I said, or something. Also I need to be easy on myself as I'm learning… no problem, right?
Good thing I am able to completely focus on myself and these extremely immature sounding neet problems. 2020 is it for me!!!

No. 486437

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>I was a no fun allowed nerd, know it all kid in high school and didn't make any friends
>school was easy so I was able to graduate even without attending to classes
>develop the habit of being late to every activity, with the belief that it will be OK, like missing classes in high school without consequences
>college was hard because of this bad habit, depression and stunned social development so I end up dropping out
>2 years a NEET to get a job at a call center which is 2 hours bus ride from home this lasted 3 months then i quit, fuck this customer service shit and commute
>another 3 years as a shut in, feeling isolated with >tfw no bf feels all the time (Looking back, I think fondly of these years, regret nothing, perhaps not learning japanese)
>at 22 I start counting calories with MFP and taking spironolactone for my acne, I became really really cute
>get a job at another call center but this one is better because it is chats and is just 1 hour from home
>get 2 close friends and have fun at work gossiping and talking
>After 2 years I had to quit because I was getting burned out and my performance was bad
>Get job at another call center which has better conditions and is even closer to my place, I felt like it will be the start to better times
>a guy from new job asks me out and suddenly I'm roped into a relationship within 3 weeks of being there, we are a couple to everyone there,(other people comment how we are such a cute couple and shit)2 months into dating I find out he is married
>Don't know what to feel, first boyfriend ever and this happens so I continue the relationship because I didn't have an ounce of character and self respect
>after 1 month I quit job out of shame, but stayed with the guy (I suspect he has BPD and I can confirm he is a soulless bastard)
>get another job at a bank doing collections (great place, only 4 hours shift with better pay than others, I'm actually good at it get first place in performance most of the months)
>after about a year shit hits the fan when this guy out of the blue decides to tell his wife (who is a bigger doormat than I am because she was the breadwinner in the relationship, yes, when I quit he did as well to work at my place but he only lasted 4 months, the rest of the year he was a NEET with wife support) he tells her that he is dating me and asks for divorce, this guy is monkey branching thinking that I'm willing to support him
>he senses my surprise, doubt and the next day of the confession he backpedals goes back to his wife and ghosts me without any explanation, I'm left feeling worried (because he told me he wanted to kill himself the day before)rejected, abandoned, bamboozled, humiliated, angry etc.
>Manage life with deep pain and sorrow for 9 months, then he comes back full force, with lame shit that I know he has tried on other girls (I hacked his accounts) I reluctantly take him back because of his manipulations but also because I wanted an explanation, retribution, something. I was just spineless and fresh to the human interactions thing.
>¨date¨ officially for 3 months, 3 months of him being clingy as fuck, possessive, he introduced me to his mom, being a drama queen, wanted to live together; I gained 5kg, my acne came back because I stopped taking spiro (my blood pressure was off due to stress, I passed out in one occasion)
>he sees my state and nopes out, ends the relationship angrily because I didn't want to move in with him, which was great, I actually did want to break up but was afraid he would pour acid on my face or something
>I feel numb, I'm not feeling my feels so I'm more tired everyday, sleep a lot, 70% of my adherence is sick leave the rest is tardiness.
>I'm not able to process this fact; in my head this will all be OK just like it did in high school
>well no, and then I get sacked

I lost my job in April this year, for the past 8 months, I've been sleeping like 12 hours everyday, I shower once a week, I brush my teeth like every 3 days or so, I gained 10kg, but my acne is cleared because I started spiro again, tho.

What's funny is that I don't feel sad, perhaps I'm still numb, sometimes I feel like I'm not in my body, that it doesn't belong to me, I lost control, I can't to move it out of bed sometimes. But ever since the break up, I haven't cried, is like, I knew this was going to happen. I only cried the day I lost my job.

Today was a good day, I got up at 6:00 am, I counted calories and took 1 hour of sun for the first time in like 2 months.

I did research, I looked up the steps to maintain every system in the body healthy.
I'm starting with the skeletal system, daily habits to keep it healthy are, minerals, vitamins, sunshine and exercise, these are all proven to also raise serotonin and other feel good chemicals so I have some chances to cure my depression without giving my hard earned call center money to a psychologist.

I'm feeling hopeful, I watched Kuroko no Basuke and I remembered how sweet it is 2D, it also got me hyped. I will get hot again for my husbando and I will get a job to live and to buy wholesome husbando merch. I also want to learn japanese to be able to understand drama CDs and fully enjoy untranslated games like Ensemble Stars, I love idolshit, both 3D and 2D, I want to travel to Japan to see live shows from my favorite chika idols.

After all this time in call center, I'm confident into doing a good job, I'm actually eager to get a job and meet new people, I want to get girl-friends to roller skate, go on bike rides, visit tea places and cafes. I'm sure these kind of girls exist. I just need to lose weight before, I'm giving myself 2 months.(I can't leave the house being a fatty)

I wrote a schedule to keep the apartment clean and tidy for the month doing small tasks every day.

I also got a contact for mushroom farming classes, mushrooms are expensive and rare in my country and from what I have seen so far they are really easy to grow.

All this is in paper, I just need enough willpower to do it, that and control the time I spend online. The simplest job is the hardest.

I also need some kind of degree ASAP, I think(hope not) my country will fall to some kind of political uprising soon and/or the currency will be devaluated severely. I might need to immigrate or slave to live, send me good energies please.

>>472403
Don't feel too nervous or inferior when talking to other people, even if they have different lives they also have insecurities; when I started socializing after being a NEET for 4 years people thought I was shy, aloof or stuck up, they never thought I was immature (or that is what I want to believe lol) in the end it doesn't matter, they live their lives and forget most interactions also opinions on people change over time.

Please be careful about the ¨love¨ thing, be mindful of your boundaries and don't try to please people just to make them like you, right now you are naive and you are letting the whole KV make you feel like a freak undeserving of love when is not the case, men sense this and they will try to take advantage of you (they wont care if you you are a KV, if you can offer company, please them or stroke their ego, they wont care). It really hurts to have your heart broken, be prepared.

No. 486440

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>>486437
Shit what an annoying wall of text, I hope someone can read it.

I wanted to add this tip. Since I'm bad at registering my feelings I grabbed this wheel of feelings.

When I get intrusive thoughts, I look at the wheel to see the one that matches, then I will know what I'm feeling and google how to process said feeling.

I also look at the antonym word of the feeling and see how and what I can do to feel the opposite.
It worked like a charm to get over the fact that the guy I was with started dating immediately after dumping me.

No. 486487

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Is there anyone else that plunged into NEETdom after a long time of being "normal"? I used to be a pretty ok 3 years ago, but then i got hit with an extremely bad bout of depression and anxiety due to suffering harassment at the hands of an abusive figure. Since then, i haven't felt the same amount of motivation or will to live. I feel like I'm a completely different person that can't adhere to deadlines, jobs or anything else. I think the best way i can describe it is like running at the speed of a train, but getting hit with a sack of bricks by a completely random person. Your face is completely shattered, but you're left to pick up the pieces.

How do you cope with self-sabotaging yourself? I constantly find myself unable to get things done because of the extreme shame from having fallen from grace, I'm overwhelmed with feelings of "what gives" and of never being able to achieve normality again. It feels like everything is a reminder of how much you've been downgraded. My life has been a complete and utter standstill for about 3 years, and I'm just tired. I don't want to be a NEET anymore, but it feels as if there's something inside me pulling me away.

No. 486499

>>485772
>>486052
Landscaping! It wasn't too hard to get into as a woman specifically, but I did have experience as a farmhand before which might've helped. The work itself is dirty of course but I've never run into anything requiring so much strength that I couldn't do it alone, although I almost always work with other people.

No. 486537

>>474915
I can relate to this
>dropped out of public school in middle school for online classes
>gained over 100 pounds in 5 years
>no drivers license

While I've done some things to improve myself over the past year or so. I've lost 40 pounds and got my permit last month.
Upcoming 2 year anniversary with bf. Gone to Europe 2 times in past year to see said boyfriend leaving country for the first time ever. Trying to do some money online.

I'm a few classes away from graduating with my associates. But can't make the effort because would have to move from online classes to moving to in person classes which are two hours away.
So I would have to move there for a semester.

I dunno if I should waste more student loan debt for something I might not even use. I'm scared to have a job as I tried doing a call center back in 2017 but quit after 3 days. I'm stuck in a rural area that needs a car.

No. 486651

>>472051
This is so cool and smart anon. I like how straight forward you are. Thanks so much for the tip! Sending my good energies your way!

No. 486652

>>486440
Samefag but lol I'm feeling…
>out of control
>stressed
>bad
zing

No. 486653

>>486440
Samefag but lol I'm feeling…
>out of control
>stressed
>bad
zing

No. 486679

>>486487
Do you have access to free therapy or are you american? CBT can help you find your will again and get you on your feet.

No. 490735

Any tips on how to prevent myself from becoming a NEET? I'm 16 and not one just yet but Im seriously worried that's the life I'm headed for.(underage)

No. 490748

>>490735
Work in school, think about what you want to do with your life, plan ahead. Socialize with your peers and teachers if they're worth it, stay out of drama. Try new things, stay curious. You'll be fine if you limit your screen time.

And enjoy your ban.

No. 490759

>>490735
Planning is key. Make detailed plans of what you are going to do after high school etc.

No. 490798

For prior context, this is my post >>472195
I'm thinking about applying for college again next year. 2020 will be five years since I last tried going. Would it be dumb to study theatre? I don't really care about my ~career I just need to do something with my life and I figure I might as well do something enjoyable while trying to ascend to normiehood. College is cheap or free where I live and I think I'm entitled to the free tier. Plus, it's something that involves working and interacting closely with other people so I think it could be therapeutic and confidence building in a way that business or psychology wouldn't. I don't care if I end up waitressing or whatever after I graduate, I just want to be able to interact with people without fear.

>>490735
idk if you're still lurking underage b&-chan but get a part time job. That's the thing I regret not doing the most about my teen years. Everyone I know who is a well adjusted, stable late 20s - early 30s adult worked after school or during summer break, even if they didn't do well in school.

No. 490817

>>490798
seconding this, underage-chan. I'm 22 and all my ~16 year old coworkers are so much more outgoing and well-adjusted than I was at that age because all I did was watch YouTube and play vidya. Plus being able to spend and save your own money is great and gives you a sense of independence. You can always quit if it gets to be too much.

No. 490854

it sucks to realize that ive wasted my 16-20s being a complete loser neet. i even ruined my chances at a good college, i had a good SAT score and gpa and just left college after a week and have been working a shitty part time retail job since, with no friends, no family besides my insane mom, no hobbies. i make below the poverty level and barely make ends meet, and it's literally entirely my fault for squandering my chances thanks to neetdom and depression. I know it sounds elitist, but I finally enrolled myself in community college but I feel so ashamed of it, at one point I had such high hopes and goals. I sabotaged my entire life course due to laziness and sadness. I'm still only 20 but I feel so out of touch with my age group and feel like I'm so behind in life and will never catch up, or even worse just end up failing myself even more.

No. 490925

>>490854
oh my gosh anon. please relax. you’re literally only 20 years old!!! you have an entire lifetime ahead of you to put new pieces of your life into the puzzle. that sounds so stupid but i don’t care honestly, you’re going to be fine. community college can be fucking awesome depending on where you go/what you’re studying. there’s no shame in previously dropping out; if it wasn’t for you or you weren’t ready, join the club, it happens to people every day and it doesn’t say anything remotely negative about you. the fact that you’re trying again speaks volumes, because the easier option would be to let the depression consume you. but you’re taking the right steps and fighting that shit and i’m proud of you

No. 490941

>>490854
you have a part time job and taking classes, you're not a neet by definition. not having friends/social life or a "good" job or going to a "good" school doesn't make you a neet. snap out of the defeatist mindset.

No. 490972

>>490854
I was in the same situation, anon, except it took me til I was 23 to get my shit together. Honestly, a more relaxed college environment might be really good - especially if you're pursuing a field where it's not necessarily about academic standing but mostly about practical skills you learn, like communication. Less stress makes it easier to stick to things!

You're also probably still going to be one of the younger people in your classes, as well. A lot of people can't afford to go to post secondary until later in life, or like you they're on their second or more time trying the college thing out.

It can be super discouraging to feel like you're behind the rest of the people you know, but what matters is that you have a plan and are getting things on track now. Look at your personal improvements and don't compare yourself to others so hard.

You'll hit 25 and realize that you're still a baby at 20 and that you were fretting over nothing. I believe in you, anon!

No. 491501

>>490925
>>490941
>>490972
I'm the original anon who posted this, thank you for your replies and encouragement. I don't mean to be cheesy but it means a lot to me, especially since I don't know any of you personally even. And the anon about me having a defeatist mindset is right, I tend to sabotage things for me before they get good so then I can wallow in the sadness about it. Thank you all so much and for the great advice, I appreciate it. I haven't started community college yet (starting in the spring semester) but I will stick with it and not sabotage it like I have other things. thank you all again.

No. 492913

Technically this belongs in the advice thread, but I feel like people here would understand my problem better:

Last year I spent New Year's Eve driving around for hours (hoping I wouldn't die in an accident due to bad weather), because I neither had anybody to spend the evening with nor was I able to stay at home because I can't have my parents know just how big of a loser I am.

Last weekend I met up with old friends and one of them asked me, whether I want to come to her house on NYE. Sounds good at first, right?
But the only people I know will be her and another friend of ours. The other guests are that friend's old af bf whom I only met once and a few "buddies" of the host. I have really bad social anxiety, I absolutely hate having to be around strangers, I'm so awkward, I absolutely can't talk to people - expecially if they're men. To make it worse, another friend revealed to me that my friend is actually fucking one of her buddies, so now I'm super scared that once everybody is drunk and the clock strikes midnight both of my friends will just make out with their men and I will be sitting there with nobody to talk to.
Plus, her house is more than 2 hours away, meaning I would have to sleep there and couldn't just leave whenever I wanted.

What should I do? I know that I need to do stuff like this to practice being more socially active, but I feel sick just thinking about it. No matter how hard I try, I always have a rbf and can't open my mouth for the love of god… And it's not like I made any friends whenever I forced myself to socialize either (especially seeing how far away that party is), I would be basically suffering for nothing. I really tried in the past, but despite of what people told me, I absolutely never enjoyed myself when going out or at parties, I'm always only waiting for it to be over.
I hate this so much, the fact that I'm always scared of what to do on NYE keeps ruining Christmas for me, for the past 8 years already. I can't wait for when I have my own place and can just stay in.

No. 492923

>>492913
Why are you acting like the world is going to end if you stay home for one day?

No. 492931

>>492923
I still live with my parents, so if I stayed at home on NYE they would question why and then I'd have to admit that I don't have plans because I basically don't have any friends and knowing that would make them feel very disappointed (or they'd get angry at me). They obviously already know that I'm somewhat of a recluse, but until now they have no idea how bad my situation really is. Not having friends is definitely one of the saddest and most embarrassing things out there, so knowing that their daughter is this pathetic would break my parents' heart - and I don't want to do that to them.

No. 492943

>>492931
pretend you're sick.

No. 492957

>>492913
Either don't go and wallow in self pity, loneliness and shame, like you seem to be already ready to do, or go and worst case scenario just spend the evening on your phone. As you said you will solve ansolutely none of your issues with anxiety and social interactions if you don't make efforts for it, and at least if you make the decision clearly you're not going to be thinking about what you're going to do during Christmas.

No. 492961

>>492931
It sounds like not having friends causes you to feel a lot of shame and pain but please know that it's not inherently shameful. Also, you're not pathetic, you just seem lost which just happens to a lot of people. I don't know what causes you to put yourself down like that but you're fine, okay? You seem to have some demons and try really hard, too hard to please your parents and/or some figment of really fixed, unforgiving, harsh expectations. I'm sure there are reasons for this but fuck your social life doesn't affect them and concern them this much. You're more concerned with their opinion of you or their reaction than your own well-being. That's a red flag.

If it's a two hour drive and you're gonna feel trapped staying the night, don't go. Thank your old friend for the invitation and tell her you can't make it. Maybe even go as far as explaining why. These are just ideas and recommondations. You could say: I'd love to come and thank you so much for the invitation, it really means a lot but staying at an unfamiliar place all night would be very stressful and hard for me at the moment. I thought long and hard about it but I find it's best for me to skip this time. But I was really happy about your invitation. Or just say that sadly you can't make it but that you really tried (because you did) and that it means a lot. Or something in a similar vein if that helps.

It's healthy to wish for friendships and for improvement of struggles. But beating yourself up over it doesn't help. That's not healthy and most importantly, you don't deserve it! You deserve to be treated fairly with respect and patience and positivity.
>>492943
pulling the sick card is perfectly fine and enough explanation. good call.

Even parental worrying can become overbearing and bad at some point even if the intent is well-meaning. Should your parents put you down about it or tease you or be overly disappointed in you and make you feel guilty, please view their behavior more critically.

Don't give up, I believe in you, anon.

No. 492968

>>492957
>wallow in self pity, loneliness and shame
>worst case evening spent on your phone
I don't think you understand social anxiety, let alone how to fix it

No. 492972

I'm trying to recover but today I feel like such a fucking loser. It sucks.

No. 493103

>>492972
recovery happens a day at a time, don't be so down on yourself anon.

No. 493468

>>492968
you fix social anxiety by being social, isn't that how it works?

No. 493763

>>493468
i dont know if I want to laugh or punch you in the throat

No. 494268

>>493763
NTAYRT but she's right. The only way to overcome it is to put yourself into social situations. However a party sounds like it'd be too much for you right now and you are completely justified in not wanting to go. I think it's great you rekindled an old friendship and you can just hang out with her some other time!
I also agree with the other anons and you should just play the sick card with your parents. If they pry, just be upfront and say you were invited but you feel unwell. Technically, it really isn't even lying lol.
(Sorry if you weren't looking for anymore input on this!!)

No. 499831

heya im a neet, but im soon gonna be out of this neet life. Im currently looking for jobs and work, by the end of 2019 i will be finally working somewhere, and get my life together.

No. 499875

>>499831
Good luck anon!

No. 499881

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Here's to a productive 2020 anons! May all our neet recovery related resolutions go according to plan!

>>499831
You can do it!

>>492913
This thread got bumped on NYE and I remembered your post. What did you end up doing out of curiosity? Hope you're doing okay.

No. 500033

>>499881
Thank you for asking, anon! (tho I planned to do an "update" anyway lol)

I went because I knew that I just had to, but I'm so glad it's over.
Beforehand I was so scared that my entire body was shaking. My friend's friends were nice, so it was okay, but nevertheless I was just sitting around silently, because I just have no idea how to contribute to conversations. We played some drinking game nearly the entire evening, about which dirty things we've done already, so of course I had to lie constantly to not out myself as the virgin loser I really am.

When some of the guests left and only the ones who wanted to sleep over stayed, I also noticed that my friend's secret fuckbuddy wasn't leaving either - despite stating so earlier. Problem was, I was sleeping in my friend's room, which wasn't connected to the floor itself. Instead you had to walk through another bedroom, the one she took for that night. So, when everybody else went to bed and that guy was still around, I just knew that they would sleep in that room together. And I was right, since her house is very old, so I could clearly hear his voice from that room. I didn't hear any sex noises, but you can never know…
When I woke up early in the morning I had to pee, but obviously also didn't want to enter the room they slept in, so instead I laid awake for 3 hours…
Does my friend think I'm dumb enough to not notice the way they look at each other, that he tries to touch her, that I could hear them? Or did she want me to find out that way? I'm also a little hurt that she repeatedly lied about not dating him. If you fuck him, then he's not just your bestie like you always claim.
After breakfast they also cuddled a little. It was just them and another couple left, I felt so uncomfortable, I just wanted to leave (and finally could, after another 2 hours of awkwardness).

I guess my wish for 2020 is to lose weight and become attractive enough to find a kind bf through online dating or apps, so that I can just leech off him when it comes to friends. My dream was always to find good and reliable female friends, but it seems that this is impossible. All the girls I met always put guys before friends. Maybe it's because I live in a very rural area, but I got the impression that it's more common in bigger cities to still be single in your 20s and to also do things without your partner. I feel like I've been third wheeling since I was just 16.

No. 500035

>>500033
Samefag, but maybe to clarify a little bit: I've been writing "friend" the entire time, so you might wonder why I post in the neet thread:
I saw this girl 5 times this year, but before that we didn't see each other 2 years in a row.
And it's the same with all my other friends too. I don't have many to begin with (zero in university), and I see them usually only once (or less) per year, meaning that the past years I sometimes went out as little as one time per year, meaning despite technically having "friends" I still feel very lonely. All of them have other friends and/or live far away, so I'm definitely far from their number one priority. I only sometimes text them, what they're doing and sometimes they just stop replying after a while, so it's not like I really have somebody to talk with about my problems. I also haven't seen my former best friend in 2 years and she didn't even bother telling me that she went to study abroad.

No. 500064

I turned 21 and am starting college in 5 days. I'm the first woman to go to college in my family; the youngest as well. My dad was the first who got his degree in his mid-40s because the company paid. My family is staunchly religious, poorly educated. They live on farms and in single room cabins, to give an idea. No one supports me, my mother has put me down numerous times on my ability to pass (as well as in high school and my hobbies). I've felt so stupid and incapable my whole life, raised to be a housewife, told that's all I'm good for, despite how high my aspirations are. I'm scared shitless, but I'm also ready. Good luck to all of my other anon friends. Much love; Happy New Year!

No. 500105

>>500064
i wish you the best of luck anon! 'grats on being not only the youngest in your family to pursue higher education, but also the first woman!

don't listen to your family. i'm not gonna shit on them bc they obviously didn't get the chance to aim higher so it's somewhat understandable that they're so close-minded and judgemental, but their backwards thinking shouldn't bring you down, esp your mother. the fact that you're getting the chance to do this at all proves you've got what it takes. don't pressure yourself; college is hard for everyone and you don't need to be some superwoman.

you're built for more than just being a housewife and serving a man. even if that's what you end up choosing after you get your degree, it's still YOUR choice anon. good luck in college!! i hope you do amazingly.

No. 500106

>>500033
>I guess my wish for 2020 is to lose weight and become attractive enough to find a kind bf through online dating or apps, so that I can just leech off him when it comes to friends.
Wowww this always ends up great lmao.

No. 500238

>>500106
Is that sarcasm…?
Doing that is simply my only option or hope at this point.

No. 500539

>>500033
It's okay to say no to things. You had genuine good reasons not to go to this event. That's okay. But you did go, and you now you can use it as a learning experience. Recovering from neetdom doesn't mean you need to unnecessarily put yourself through things you find unpleasant or become a normie. For me, it means that I want to become functional, self sufficient and able to interact with the outside world. I'm so extremely introverted that I know I would be unhappy with a full on normie lifestyle but I don't want to stagnate in my childhood bedroom until I die either.
Like, when you needed to pee for instance; even if they were having sex, and you walked in on them, so what? You couldn't avoid going through the room. It wouldn't have been your fault and I doubt anyone would have been mad at you. Embarrassed maybe, but not mad. Especially if the room was quiet like you say. And if you had walked in on them it would have been be a funny story you could tell during a drinking game or something in the future and it would be something that really happened.
Being a neet doesn't mean you can't have friends, it just means you aren't in education, employment or training. a lot of adults only see some friends a few times a year or even less, especially if they live a few hours away. they aren't "close" friends and that's okay but that doesn't mean the relationship isn't important. I get that you want closer friends, but don't neglect this friendship. Try and do something together in 2020 at some point. I had non close friendships that I let slip because I was ashamed of my pathetic life and now I have no one to text or hang out with at all.
I also don't think finding a bf to leech off of is a good idea. girls in our position are vulnerable. A lot of the men who would date someone like us probably like the idea of someone who is sort of helpless relying on them and would take advantage of that. I think developing yourself and getting fit is a great idea, but don't do it to get a bf, do it for yourself. I'm not saying stay celibate forever but be careful. Is bumble popular where you live? That has a function for finding female friends. I think that might a good idea for you. I hope 2020 is good for you anon.

No. 500543

>>500238
why not just find hobby's instead?

No. 500565

Are their any careers that don't require college that pay decently?

No. 500595

Been a NEET for 6 months. Meeting with a military recruiter tomorrow to get my career started.

No. 500608

>>500565
crime scene cleanup

No. 500709

>>500595
just stay home and be a neet, not a psycho bitch killer

No. 500711

>>500595
So you applied to be a bullet buffer for your country that didn’t support you with mental health up to this point and fell pray to a human pound

Congrats

No. 500724

>>500595
The military is evil.

No. 500726

>>500595
You'll heavily regret it, anon. Rape is extremely common in the military.

No. 500790

>>500595
Replies are retarded. If you are in the USA and are not applying for combat, it's a good way to get a place to stay , save up some funds, and get cheaper education (sometimes free). Do what you have to do anon. Congrats on getting out of the house.

No. 500800

>>500595
Good for you for getting out. Try to get into intelligence.

No. 500804

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>>500790
>>500595
(If American): Do you enjoy being a pawn in the games of rich war profiteers like Dick Cheney? You could get your legs blown off so shareholders in Haliburton get a bigger dividend.

The reason why the benefits are so great is because the job is garbage.

No. 500806

>>500595
See >>500709
Even if you won't be killing babies directly you'll still be providing support for those that do.

No. 500807

>>500790
great way to get assaulted too!

No. 500814

>>500804
As a woman, you're unlikely to get your legs blown off. Those rape statistics tho…

No. 500820

>>500595
going to basic training for the army broke my neetdom cycle. I didn't wind up graduating but I finally got a normal job when I got back. plus I was in the best shape of my life.

people are replying "reeee fuck the military" and they're right but you also probably aren't in the mindset to give a shit. I know I wasn't. Good luck anon, I hope you don't wind up regretting it. Sign the shortest contract they'll give you and make sure you accept the GI bill when they offer it to you. save every penny of your money.

No. 500943

>>500565
trades, some trades can get you 150k a year if you can get 60 hours a week from the overtime, and thats not including benefits

No. 500945

>>500565
>>500943
also i meant starting out you can get 150k, some specialty skill can get you 500k if you're the best in your area

No. 501008

I was the military anon and wow, didn't expect so many replies lol.

I'm leaning towards intelligence. Not joining the marines nor doing combat >>500800 >>500790
>>500820 Most likely gonna sign a 6year contract because I wanna be a linguist. I appreciate your advice. I can't really see myself doing anything else right now.

No. 501011

>>500595
enjoy WWIII

No. 501181

>>500804
>>500807
Unless you are in combat, it is unlikely you'll suffer any of the things you just mentioned.

Rape is a possibility, but I've already been raped as a civilian twice, and if I needed to get out of the house immediately, the military would be one of the fastest options. Not all of us qualify for other programs.

No. 501391

I've been a neet for over 2 years. I used to work for my Aunt as a receptionist, but she downsized her business and didn't need me anymore. I have a bachelor of science in human resource development, a previous HR internship and two other previous office jobs. My resume is polished and I've been through coaching with multiple recruiters and my old college's career services center. I am a 25 year old woman with no social media, no IRL friends and bad social skills. I have been trying really hard, lately, though. My Aunt is even letting me lie about still working for her to hopefully make my resume look more attractive to prospective employers, but it isn't going well. I am GREAT at getting the initial interview for the jobs I am applying for (data entry, hr internship/hr assistant, telemarketing) but once I get past the phone screen and they get to know me I am rejected, even if I am overqualified for the position on paper. I think it is my personality. I am bad at projecting confident body language and seeming like a good candidate. I project the image of a stupid, uncertain woman that would be a pain to have around. The funny thing is that I briefly worked at a place that taught job-seeking strategies and interview etiquette to people with autism and even helped teach the class and mentor them. But I can't even get a job, myself. It's like I know everything on paper that I am supposed to do but in practice I just fail. I just feel really bad lately and hopeless. It's like I was on this upward escalator to getting an ok-job and being normal but then I graduated and my internship ended and my life was over. I spend all day applying to jobs I will never get, talking to people on a shutin discord server and drinking. I honestly hate my life

No. 501450

>>501391
You need to do practice interviews with someone I think. To me an interview is like acting, if you dont have that type of personality that's a natural at the job, you're putting on a little theatre.

No. 501569

Not sure if this should go in the career thread, but how the hell do I find a job that is good for solitary people like me? My social skills are fine but I'm happiest when I spend most my time alone.

I finally got my degree in math after putting off graduating and being NEET for a few years, but I'm still not sure what to do. I can do technical stuff but it's imperative I do something where contact with other people is limited.

No. 501571

>>501569
You and me both anon. I currently have a well paying job and my work mates are okay but I absolutely hate spending time together in the office. I'd rather be paid less and work alone. I'm seriously drained when I spend more than 3 hours with someone, let alone 8 hours per day of the workweek. I've tried freelancing but it's not a stable income and I still like stability.

No. 501642

So ex-NEETs and other NEETs, why shouldn't I become a NEET? How bad is it living off rich parents and doing nothing for the rest of my life? It sounds like paradise to me. I can game and watch tv comfortably until I die and not face any stress or worry.

No. 501644

>>501642
do you have rich parents? most neets dont

No. 501885

>>501642
I'm a neet because I'm mentally ill. My parents are working class and hate my guts -partially because I'm a disappointment and a leech, partially because they've always been abusive to the point that hating me has been their default setting since I was a baby. I don't enjoy gaming or watching tv that much, I only take part in them because they're low investment hobbies I can do from my bedroom. I face stress and worry about my future and my physical/mental health on a daily basis. I have no friends, have never had a romantic relationship and am extremely lonely. I turn 30 this year and suicide is looking more and more tempting with every day. It's shit.

No. 501963

>>501885
Holy shit I can relate and I'm only 19,I never had friends,currently jobless,regularly cynical and depressed,verbally abusive dad who wants me dead, whole family doesn't give a shit about me due to my inevitable tbi I had as a baby which makes me function differently than other people doesn't help that I'm the only introvert in my family

No. 501965

>>501885
Please don't kill yourself anon, I'm close to your age and my situation is similar. We're gonna make it anon I promise!

No. 501986

>>501885
stay strong anon

No. 502005

>>501642
Most people inevitably get insanely bored from it, call it depression, then use that as a reason to never go anywhere or improve their life, and stay miserable forever. Most places online where NEETs gather reflect that, very few remain happy long-term in that lifestyle unless they are highly self-motivated to continuously build skills and engage in productive and exciting hobbies that bring fulfillment, but most NEETs are NEETs specifically because they are the opposite of that personality type.

No. 502037

(Mostly) recovered NEET, now a first year uni student at 23 (dropped out first time around after a mental breakdown, spent some years NEETing, in a drugged haze and doing part time work).
Problem is, I'm still a virgin I feel like I lost the time I should have been getting relationship experience to NEETdom and depression, and I feel hopelessly immature in that area and feel so ashamed. I'm not looking for anything major, just some experience, a casual relationship.
I'm having a lot trouble finding people I'd be open to dating, because most men around me are 4/5 years younger. I've made some friends around my age, but no one I'm the slightest bit attracted to. I don't want to try online dating, because I can't tell I'm attracted to someone without meeting them in person. Not into clubbing either.
Any ex-NEETS have a similar story? Tips on just getting out there and meeting people?

No. 502039

>>501885
You need a change to your routine, something that will get you out of the house on a regular basis, but not TOO shocking a change that you can't cope - having nothing to do all day is poison and it's so hard to lift yourself out of that state.
Volunteer work maybe? Is there any government help you could get, training courses you could go on?

No. 502047

>>501642
Because normal people with a conscience and a sense of shame would feel guilty and embarassed leeching off their parents without even attempting to become independent.

The NEET life is my dream, I just call it early retirement because I plan to pay for it myself.

No. 502079

>>502037
kind of similar, but not helpful in anyway, i was a shut-in neet with 1.7 high school gpa until 23 before realizing i wasn't a fat, ugly, retard, i was just overweight and an alcoholic full of self hatred. i started learning trade skills and try to join union apprenticeships at the recommendation of a family member, so i applied myself worked hard and now here i am making 150k a year with great benefits at 26 and dangerously close to suicide and still never kissed anyone

No. 502093

>>502079
That sucks anon.
I'm poor as shit, but haven't been depressed for almost 2 years now - I'm the person you're replying to, so I'm romantically in the same place (well, I've BEEN kissed, but not by anyone I'd want), and it worries me, but overall I'm genuinely happy.
Do you work out? Running was a big part of the key to getting out of depression. I was bordering a BMI of 30 when I started, and while it certainly helped my physical health, the mental health benefit to my mood was the bigger positive.
Literally just this morning, I was feeling awful (PMS + external stress factors piled up), and while I'm supposed to be revising for exams, I have nothing scheduled I have to show up for, so I was very tempted for the first time in ages to go back to old bad habits and spend the day basically browsing the internet in bed. Instead, I dragged myself to go for a run instead, instantly felt in a good mood after. Doesn't have to be running, just something that gives you that endorphin boost.

That's the difference between being depressed and not - the facts of your situation can be the same, the problems can be the same, but when you're depressed you just see things differently. Things that I can brush off now paralysed me when depressed. I used to want to hide in my room or end it with every setback, now my immediate response is "how can I deal with this?"
And depression fucks with your head, you forget that it's not normal to feel like shit, you forget what it's like to not just want it to end - so remember that whatever you feel right now, you may not get what you want, but as long as you're alive it's possible to be happy overall.

No. 502148

I'm 25, and have never had a job. GED, finished trade school at 20 but got caught up in an abusive relationship for way too long. How does one explain NEET-dom to a future employer? I feel so hopeless because I have almost no resume. It's so embarassing to explain to friends. Probably not even a gas station would hire me. Everyone always says "lie on your resume" but what does that even mean. I just want to be normal.

My parents always made fun of "burger flipping" jobs, and expected me to be a lawyer or a doctor, but I'm too autistic for any of that. Working with animals is my dream, thinking of looking into freelance video editing like an anon earlier mentioned.

No. 502282

>>501986
>>501963
>>501965
>>502039
thanks for the commiserations and advice kind anons. I'm going to be stuck at my parents' house for at least another year so I need to come up with something to keep me sane. I'm thinking of going to my country's equivalent of community college to study an old hobby but that won't start up until late august. Getting back into volunteering was one of my resolutions this year. I did it before and found it a little overwhelming but I was in school full time back then. I've been thinking about becoming a rape crisis volunteer, but given my own issues that might be more of a long term goal. Maybe something with kids would be a better fit. There are actually a lot of volunteering opportunities where I live because the economy is so shit lmao.

>>502148
you should see if there's somewhere near you where you can volunteer with animals anon! At the place I used to volunteer there was a girl who came in 30 hours a week and they eventually just gave her a paid job. It would be something in your area of interest to go on your resume at least. I know of people who made up fake old jobs and had a friend or family member with a different last name as a reference. My work history is extremely spotty to say the least, but I have good references from volunteering that will be useful if I recover enough to work again.

No. 502322

As crazy as it sounds, the only way I can escape impending neetdom is if I quit university and move out of my parents house and get a full time minimum wage job. Is it worth it?

No. 502434

>>502322
No. Continue your education. Getting a good job will be mountains easier, and you are not really doing bad if you are currently in university. Education is extremely important to having a successful career. Any job you get now will end up being a large life path, do you want to be stuck there and regretting you gave up the chance of an actual career? You should appreciate living with your parents now. Don't take what you have for granted, doesn't matter your age.

No. 502804

>>500943
>>500945
Hey, any suggestions?

No. 503204

This is mostly a rant but if anybody has advice I'd really appreciate it.

I'm 26 and I've never had a job. I guess I'm not technically a NEET because I've been in college for most of my adult life, except for late 2015-late 2017. However, I've been at community college the entire time and have yet to complete an associate's. I've tried 3 different majors and I've had to take a lot of remedial math for my most recent major which is why it's taken so long. A good chunk of this has been full time, but since last Spring it's been part time just because I already have my gen eds taken care of therefore and can only take a couple classes at once. This is my last semester there and I will be finally graduating with my associate's this May. My grades are good and I genuinely enjoy what I study. Thankfully I don't have any debt because I've been lucky enough to get a free ride due to financial aid, although that will be running out in a couple more semesters.

I just feel bad because I could have (and should have) been working for pretty much the whole time. My parents just never really forced me to get a job and I wish they did so I could have gotten it over with a long time ago. I don't have a car and public transportation here is complete trash so actually getting somewhere more than once a week is a bit of a hassle (semi rural area.) I have a little bit of volunteer work (like literally 2 days) which is better than nothing I guess but it hasn't been enough for the few jobs I've applied for recently.

I know I need to just apply more and eventually I'll get something. I just feel so embarrassed. I know I'll feel better once I get a job, but I absolutely dread the thought of going into an interview and being asked why I've been useless for nearly a decade. I dread that my only methods of getting to work would be getting dropped off and picked up by my mom or walking/taking the bus for 2 hours (round trip.) Being able to get a car would make things so much better but I need money first obviously. I know I'm just making excuses and I need to stop and just do it and get over it. But that's easier said than done, for me at least.

My parents are very great and I feel terrible for being a leech for so long. They understand that the job market is shit and entry level jobs pay nothing. They understand that it's difficult even when you get a degree. I just want to move out and let them be on their own. I just want to be normal and feel like an adult instead of a slightly older teenager.

No. 503247

>>503204
Ok I'm not sure how college works in the US but is it possible for you to do an internship before/after you graduate ? You didn't mention it so I assume you never did one. It looks like you need the work experience more than the money so you can do an unpaid internship (easier to be hired) in your field of study and if you're really lucky they'll keep you, if not it's still experience.
If you can't do an internship, try to do more volunteer work before you graduate.
Be prepared to answer in an interview why you didn't work before. Lots of people were in the same situation as you, search online you'll probably find a good answer. Make something up if you have to.
Either way, it's going to be difficult without a car but not impossible ! I know right now everything is stressful but you'll make it anon I'm rooting for you

No. 503257

>>502434
It doesn't matter, i'm going to fail university because i'm stuck in a shitty course I can't change and I am out of money. This is all because my parents wouldn't let me take some time off school and work on my depression, well thanks to the parents who caused my depression and ruined my finances, I am going to likely never get a career even if i wanted too.

No. 503268

>>503247
Once I transfer to a 4-year university internships will be possible and I'll 100% look into them.

Thank you so very much for your reply, it was very helpful and encouraging!

No. 503369

>>503204
Look at places within walking distance and apply to them first. An hour of walking there and an hour of walking back actually isn't as bad as it sounds, especially if you listen to some music or something while you walk.

>entry level jobs pay nothing

Having no job pays nothing, so if entry level is what you can get, take it. Everybody starts somewhere and most of us start off somewhere shit. After my degree, I ended up working retail for nine months. Some money is better than no money and, when you have zero experience, beggars can't be choosers.

When people ask why you haven't worked, say "I was working on my education and was lucky enough to be able to focus on my studies, but now I'm ready to dive into the practical side of things in a professional working environment." It shuts down further questioning, shows you want to work and it shows confidence because you're showing that you're aware it's not the norm but that you don't think it'll set you back. If you answer in a nervous or embarrassed way, it'll rub off on the interviewers and they'll see it as an embarrassing thing.

Compile excellent references. Any teachers that are pleased with your work, any family friends in professional careers, any fellow volunteers. Ask them for a written reference. Photocopy and have these on hand for interviews. A file of people that believe in you can do wonders.

No. 503399

>>503257
I understand your frustration but speaking from my own experience taking time of school for me made my depression worse and now I don't think I'll ever be able to re-enroll and it feels bad man.

Are you seeking tutoring or speaking to your professor?

No. 503401

>>503257
blaming your parents for everything when you’re a grown ass adult is honestly bullshit. take some responsibility for yourself. nobody is obligated to house your NEET ass for free.

No. 503418

>>503401
How about you read my first post? I know that, anons here are insisting that I continue to live with my parents.

No. 513998

I want to stop being a neet. Whats preventing me from going outside is my body dysphoria. I gained weight and i feel so fucking depressed. I hate it.

No. 514091

>>513998
Do you have a job or any sort of employment ?

No. 520215

>>474390
>>472195
I know I'm a bit late to the party on this, but Jesus dudes, just lie on your resume. Say you worked as a home aid or a house worker for your parents or some shit and then list them as your work reference.

No. 520217

>>520215
And how do you phrase it?

No. 520276

>>520217
NTA, but there are a lot of different things you could say, depending on the skills you want to highlight. I'd put emphasis on organization and attention to detail, like managing schedules, helping to write out checks/pay bills, etc. You probably do a lot of those things anyway.

If you don't have work experience, it's not a bad idea to embellish, especially if your parents will be a reference for you. Restaurant/retail jobs might not even check your references, but it does look better to have some kind of experience doing something.

No. 520334

>>520215
I'm one of those anons. I have voluntary work and temporary work placements/internships on my resume that are worded to sound like they were legit jobs, and I have good references from those places. one of my references is a supportive family member and I have no doubt she would make me sound great. Mental illness is my main problem.

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No. 533585

I’m back to being a NEET after getting fired, except this time I’m not a broke NEET if I keep my spending habits to a bare minimum.

I was planning to save my tax return money to pay off college debt so I can get back to school in time for the summer semester but now I gotta put that into a savings account which I don’t have yet. I will get severance checks which I’ll use to pay off other bills (mainly cell) but idk if I’ll qualify for unemployment or that $1200 bill Trump just confirmed for.

I thought I escaped the NEET life but it came back to haunt me…

No. 533638

>>533585
anon 3 billion people are neets right along side you now, you can get better through the quarantine

No. 533639

Am I a neet if I only go to school during the semester and I work while studying over the summer?

No. 533642

>>533639
…no you're not a NEET if you work and go to school. The fuck?

No. 533643

>>533639
Neet stands for Not in Education, Employment, or Training.

You're in education and employed, so no you're not a neet.

No. 533644

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I MISS BEING NEET. Quarantine has been TOO COMFY. I want to relapse so fucking bad!!! The thought of soon I’ll have to drag my ass into the office be fake all day fills me with selfYEET feelings.

No. 533654

>>533643
Okay but what if you're disabled and part time sometimes in school only, aside from some full time semesters.

No. 533682

>>533654
You're still not neet…? Students aren't neets just because they do nothing during summer months.

No. 533716

>>533654
do you just WANT the label neet?

No. 533749

>>533644
Fucking same, I was working on going outside more to get over my hikikomori ways (for lack of a better term) but with all the lockdowns it's 2 years of slow progress going right into the trash. Thank you corona

No. 535227

Was a NEET for a total of three years between 2013-2018, have been in work for the last year and a bit in retail. As much as I liked being a NEET I did get housesick towards the end of the second straight year (1yr NEET/work/2yrs NEET), and I like my job.
Lockdown has been mad comfy and for now I'm still getting paid, thanks furlough. So used to talking to people every day at work that I miss the interaction a little, even though I don't live alone I'm trying to talk to people online more. You win some you lose some.

No. 535283

>>480313
wow this is a really old post but i'm the anon who wrote the post you screenshotted …to be honest most days i feel bad about myself and i wrote those things as an exercise to see if i could change the way i think. probably due to lasting affects of abuse and neglect from self and others.
90% of the time i feel like a wolf in sheep's clothing around normies and am scared that i will be found out or someone will bring up my past where i was a mentally ill loser who even ended up in hospital by end of high school. and i spent a lot of time at uni alone studying so that's why i got good grades..
i just kept going each day and then one day i realized i got a life i could have never imagined as a child. i was just surviving for so long but only as of this year (23) do i finally feel alive. i even got into my master's program with a scholarship!
sorry if this was cringe or unhelpful but i just want to let you know you should keep putting one foot in front of the other. i had a rule called "no zero days" where i pushed myself to never let a day pass without doing something productive. and then you end up doing like 2,3,4,5,even 10 productive things. we believe in you!

No. 540078

>>472242
>Don't let yourselves ever be shamed for not being part of the machine.
This is the worst advice you give neet. These people are not about bring about any kind of revolution. NEETs have some serious cases of learned helplessness, they don't need a rational to do less. NEETs should genuinely follow Petersons advice on self-help. If you can't lift yourself up from your bed, how will you lift anyone else up from poverty. You're most likely the poor person in question

No. 555002

Sorry for possibly necroing, but this is the most recent thread and I'm looking for some opinions. I'm a slowly recovering NEET (I've been working from home for over a year, but now I want to get back out into society), and I'm very attracted to the idea of going back to school and getting my degree.

However, I have this nagging concern that I'm already too old to do it. I'll be 25 by the time I start the 4-year course, and my friends that went to college finished by 21/22. I have severe anxiety and I go to a therapist, who of course has said that I should just go for it.

Does anyone have any success stories of going back to school slightly later than your peers? What do you guys think about it?

No. 555003

>>555002
I go to class with literal boomers. Also no one is gonna ask how old you are.

No. 555005

>>555002
nobody gives a sweet or sour fuck how old you are. you go to college for the purpose of gaining an education anyway.

No. 555025

>>555002
Imagine letting such a nonsensical insecurity determine your life path. Not only are you virtually indistinguishable from someone in their early 20s, nobody cares if you took a few years to go back to school and university is full of mature age students decades older than you.

No. 555036

>>555002
I'm also a recovering neet with severe social anxiety and I'm going to be 30 soon. I'm going back to college whenever they actually open again. You'll be fine. At 25 you're still young enough to blend in unless you're unusually old looking for your age. It's also unlikely that you'll be the only person who isn't going straight out of high school. I went back briefly at 25 and I didn't feel particularly out of place.

No. 555050

>>555002
I tried college again at 25 and my school had older students and retirees that were taking classes. At first I was worried about being “too old” but it was fine. If anything it made me realize I want to be a lifelong learner and keep trying new things because I have a lot of respect for people who do that for themselves.

No. 555071

>>555002
You're going to get older either way, do you want to be older with or without a college degree? Plenty of people go back to school at an older age for different reasons and no one cares. If you're anxious about your age then it'll be easiest if you go back now while you're still young enough to blend in with your peers.

No. 559749

>>555002
also sorry for a late response but I was starting college this year at 22. of course because of corona my first semester was cancelled and I was only able to attend for like, a month (also, obviously, i'm not american).
it wasn't half as nerve wrecking as I thought it would be, there were a considerable amount of people older than me in my classes (the majority was still straight out high school tho). I did get a lot of questions about my age, but nothing too judgmental. It's hard not to feel inferior about the fact that I wasted 4 years of my life stuck in my room in a depressive episode but college will make you so busy you probably won't have much time to thought spiral about it, so definetly try doing it, anon!

No. 564487

im 20 and i cant bring myself to leave my house because i hate my body. Ive gotten fatter and i hate it so much. Ive been a neet since 2018 and i feel like such a loser. I never started college either.
Also i used to be able to get call center jobs but being the dumbass i am i quit many of them and now its hard to find some.
Should i work at home and consider going to school this winter? Please help me. the only reason why i havent killed myself is because i care a lot about my little sister and i want to be there for her.

i also associate all the fun stuff with my ex (i was 17, he was 23, took advantage of me and his whole squad made up lies about me.) Shit depresses me because i live in a small town and i dont want him or his friends to find me so i cant go out.

No. 564488

>>564487
he also raped me but im too much of a coward to say it to anyone.

No. 564716

>>559749
holy shit anon are you me? 22yo and starting university again but then covid hit

i guess I'm lucky that most of my school work is computer based anyway so i can keep going with school

good on you though, just a shame covid shit on our plans to get out and do stuff

No. 564853

Since the economy seems to be crashing down heavily, is it time to return to being a NEET?

No. 564861

>>564853
it seems like it for me. shit girls, it sounds pathetic and like i'm making excuses but everything really was semi-on track.

No. 564980

>>564861
>>564487
Corona is actually our excuse to get back on our track, If we act socially awkward in public then we just blame on the quarantine

No. 564984

>>564980
I was never socially awkward just trainwreck/not going anywhere in life, this all happened at a really awkward time and now i'm completely stalling. Oh well, we're all just animals. I'm not stressing about it anymore.

No. 568513

I feel like I’ve failed at becoming independent basically and every job I’ve ever had I’ve been tired from after a year. I don’t even want to go back to school because I’m not good at academic work and I can’t go to trade school because my crazy narc parents will reeeeee about how everyone in family is a doctor. They have a lot to do with me growing up to become such a pathetic person but at the end of the day I’m the one who failed to disengage. I should have just become a stripper or something abdcraj away from home at 18 but now I’m way too fucking old. The thought of continuing on with my life is so fucking bleak tho. I literally can’t get a job as a waitress or whatever because everything like that was nepotistic before Covid and now 70% of those business are expected to experience downturn. My only hope is try and get diagnoses with autism that I strongly suspect I have so many the govt will throw a little gibs that I can save up but my future just seems so bleak, no career, no husband, no family. I haven’t bother to date since December, at this point in my life none of the guys in my age bracket want to seriously date a NEET with no career or money unless I do an Anna Nicole Smith and literally find a old man. I just wish I could a part time job doing something I’m good at that I don’t find mind numbing boring so I can move the fuck out of this city.

No. 568529

>>568513
Go to trade school then, surely your parents will like it mor than you’re sitting on your ass all day wasting rice
> literally can’t get a job as a waitress or whatever because everything like that was nepotistic before Covid and now 70% of those business are expected to experience downturn
Don’t know why you have this impression, comes off like an excuse to not try tbh
Sorry to say but a job is a job and a lot of time it is mind numbing, most of us don’t have a job we’re good at and love, let that go. You have to decide whether you want to move out and become independent enough to do what needs to be done. Or you can continue to wallow in learned helplessness.

No. 568538

>>568529
Yes anon they have told me they would prefer I sit in my ass all day then embarrass them by getting a “low class” job. This has been our underlying dynamic since I can remember. Maintaining their image is as a “upper class” family is single most important thing I can do.


I tried doing that “pull yourself by bootstraps” attitude and going to like 15 diff bars/restaurants pre covid and they told me they don’t hire anyone w/o experience and don’t want to train, all the people I know who have similar jobs were hired by a friend. Everything is corrupt in some sense. Even half the time the education is just a scam like those stupid coding bootcamps that were so popular 2-3 years ago. I kind of hope the recession just causes the whole rotting edifice to collapse on itself.

No. 568658

>>568538
lots of retail places where i live literally require 5 years of experience kek, now i'm noticing restaurants also are requiring 1-2 years. there's almost no hope for getting hired at the moment if your resume is on the bare side and you don't have much experience. better to just start selling on depop or get an online sugar daddy

No. 568662

>>568658
so true. i have retail experience just under a year and there's a year in my country where you're supposed to get work experience while still in high school which i did too but no luck kek

No. 568728

>>568658
I can’t tell if this a joke. Where the fuck do you live tf. Restaurants bars and fast food and coffee houses always looking to hire here. The only exception is family run mom and pops spots where the staff stays more or less the same for years.
Covid is making grocery stores scramble for temp hires. At most I’ve seen is “1-2 years of experience preferred” for retail but they don’t really mean that. Anyway, I’ve applied for plenty of jobs I had no exp in and got them anyway. Shoot your shots ya damn NEEts.

No. 568773

>>568728
Coffee houses kinda vary, but most restaurants do want servers with experience. Waiting tables is demanding as hell. I've seen a lot of new servers either quit or do another job like hosting because it's too much. Hosts/bussers usually don't need experience, so that's a good place to start if you're looking for restaurant work.

No. 568775

>>568728
damn where do YOU live?

No. 569354

any recovering neets socially awkward and really ugly? does it affect your job? do you like or dislike where you're working because of it?

No. 569822

I don't know whether I should stay safe and neety at home under the thumb of my incredibly manipulative BPD mother or risk crashing and burning as a wagecuck.
I don't know how much longer I can stay here because she mines all the joy from my spirit and I'm never going to grow as a person otherwise, I'm 25 so I feel like I'm overdue to leave. My government welfare covers my rent where we live, but if I move out, I won't be able to come back because someone else will have to take the room.
I don't have a huge amount on my resume (mostly bar work) and also I don't have faith in my ability to just grind if I need to. Everyone I know my age is poor and struggles to make rent every month.
If I move out, my welfare won't cover my rent, or I'll be left 50 or so dollars for the month. My only hope is a job working nights for retail restocking, which my friend who feels the same way I do about work has recommended to me, but in this economy I don't know even if that's safe.
She scaremongers me into staying so much of the time, one time I did move out and she was so passive aggressive about how much I talked to her, then I tried to kill myself because I was so stressed by the life that I had to come home. I've been recovering for about 4 years now. She resents me for being inexperienced and coddled when she's the one who coddled and shielded me?? I hate how she knows which buttons to press to drag every little bit of attention from me. She constantly spies on me and judges me. I don't like her or trust her as a person at all.
Do I just need to get over it and stay safe until the recession blows over? I'm planning to study something that will always guarantee me a job (health field) n but until I graduate (maybe 4 years away) I don't know what to do.

No. 569852

All you bitches going “wahhh NO WHERE will hire me they want EXPERIENCE”

Call center. Amazon. FedEx.

Yeah it will fucking suck because all first jobs do. Get over it. They are literally always hiring and if you try to claim otherwise you’re just privileged and choosing to do nothing about your situation

No. 569859

>>569852
No where near a neet but I like to lurk here. You're privileged for thinking that people can get jobs at those places at the drop of a hat. My sisters job closed down (before covid shit) and applied for months to other places and didn't find a job until like 3 months later. Maybe in your yeehaw neck of the woods where there is a population of -10 call centers are hiring all the time, but not in major cities.

No. 569881

>>569354
>socially awkward and really ugly?

yep

I got my first job a few months ago and its one of the few jobs on earth where I dont even have to utter a single word all day and dress code is non existent. Im also surrounded by boomers so no young men to talk shit to me. Hell, I dont even make eye contact with anyone most days. Im feeling great lately, image wise.

No. 569901

>>569881
what kind of job?

No. 569902

>>569881
What's your job anon?

No. 569904

>>569881
Tell us ur secret job anon pls

No. 569913

Once again I'm attempting to leave the NEET lifestyle behind. I applied to college hopefully it works out for me this time. The University is just waiting to receive my hs transcripts now. IDK if I am good enough to get accepted. My admission counselor said my ACT results looked good, but idk if they just say that to everyone. I have soooo much anxiety. I'm trying to just let go and remember whatever happens happens.

No. 569918

>>569881
This was me in college when I worked as an office assistant for the custodial dept. lol they promoted me and it was so mismanaged that I would do basically nothing all day. Had to talk to a couple managers and boomers could be annoying af but usually it was really chill and I could watch shit on my phone for hours

No. 569926

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>>569902
>>569904
>>569901


data entry for the government

monotonous but very stress free

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>>569926
I envy yourt cushy job so much.
I just quit my job because it was too much stress and I'm so afraid I will fall back into neetdom at 30 after 3 years clawinf myself out.

No. 570065

>>569913
i wish you luck. School is the only thing that helped me to stop being a neet

No. 570079

I think corona has put me back into NEET mode. I've always been a loner who loves staying in my room, but now I'm unemployed too. I stay in my room pretty much 24/7. It's going to be so hard going back to 'normal' when this all ends.

No. 570201

>>570079
Same, I'm going to lose a whole year to this

No. 570342

>>569951
it is stress free but its also low pay

although if you can budget well its not a big deal

No. 570758

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Guys I’ll never be able to escape NEETdom. All I do every single day is clean my family’s mess. My parents work all day and are stressed. My siblings are lazy peices of shit. And my grandma who lives with us is supposed to cook and clean, BUT NEVER DOES. I do it all and am never thanked. I’m so exhausted. I entertained the thought of going to college, but if I don’t clean and take care of my mom nobody else will. WHAT AM I SUPPOSED TO DO? It’s just so unfair that I’ve essentially been stuck here for FIVE YEARS because everyone else is lazy. I want a life! I want friends! But everyone else’s needs have to come before mine. It’s unfair I didn’t sign up for this. I don’t mind cleaning up after my parents since they took care of me and haven’t kicked me out. But thinking of having to juggle school work on top of cleaning everyone else’s mess it makes me feel exhausted. I can’t do it all. I lowkey feel like I am being encouraged to stay being a NEET by my mother bc she knows if I’m not around no one will cook food for her or keep the house in order. I feel like the only way I can escape is by kms, but I can’t.

No. 570763

>>570758
this doesn't sound like NEETdom but your family using you. How much is there to do ffs, is your family a bunch of animals? If they don't thank you, don't do it. Do the bare minimum slowly and plan on how to go to college or move out. Also, why is your grandma expected to feed and clean for everyone as well? That's also shitty.

No. 571023

I gave up. I will always be a NEET. I made big changes but at the end I just can't.

Going to sell my weed my whole life and marry this guy with a house in the woods.

Good luck

No. 571369

>>571023
the dream tbh,,

No. 571830

>>571023
now this is something I have been meaning to ask ? If one is married and in happy/stable relationship can that person be a NEET ?

No. 571854

>>571830
I didn't know it was a thing til I saw it on here. I've seen a couple of anons freak out after the break up of those relationships. Shit like the guy giving them a few months to get their shit together and move out but them just hanging on there because they have no job and little motivation to get one.

The nicer the bf is in letting them stay there rent free (after the breakup) the more they just stagnate and act like they can hang on forever. In one way I feel for them and in another way you want to shake them into action.

No. 572048

>>564487 anon here.
im going to commit suicide tonight.
im just tired of being worthless and feeling stupid because of my autism

No. 572058

>>572048
Please don’t! Trust me if this is the worst pain you can possibly be in emotionally then it’s only going to get better. If you take your own life there’s no chance of that happening, I know things can get really tough. Your autism means that you’re way more creative and artistic than most so try and explore that path.
Please anon don’t do it, it does get better and never ever think you are stupid or worthless. You are most certainly not. My thoughts are with you anon, you are loved.

No. 572061

>>572048
Anon, don’t. Please. You're being so hard on yourself. It’s difficult to carry on while in pain, but think about who will suffer without you here.
Don’t give up. Apply for those winter classes. Make a tiny positive change in your diet. Go for walks. You deserve to feel happy, don’t rob that from yourself. It might take a while, but it will come.
Please try to talk to someone if you can tonight.

No. 572071

>>572058
>>572061
thank you anons. i teared up reading your replies.

No. 572197

>>572048
Life is more than your town or your career. Some people have more difficult starts in life but that does not mean you're limited. We have to find what we want and get it, and once we do it will feel so much better. I believe in you.
And if you really do wanna commit suicide, you may as well try for a month to live a happy life and get out of your situation and see how it goes. But life does get better.

No. 572200

>>572197
I just wish i had a friend to talk to. Im all alone and it makes me cry everyday

No. 572202

>>572200
you should post in the friend finder on /g/, anon. i'll be your friend.

No. 572232

>>572202
thanks for the suggestion anon. I just posted >>142254

No. 572233

>>572232
quote didnt work (im assuming its because its on g. I feel dumb)
my discord is potato.#9829
saged

No. 572248

>>472051
>>572071
I’m so happy to hear that you didn’t go through with it. I’ve suffered from those thoughts in the past and the minute I opened up to someone that I trusted i felt much better. A problem shared is a problem halved.
I hope you start to feel better anon, there’s much much more to life that you just haven’t come across yet and the pandemic isn’t making things any easier. Don’t be so hard on yourself, you seem like a lovely person!

No. 572249

>>572248
thank you so much anon.. you're very kind.

No. 574490

Sorry this thread seems kinda dead but how do you (or would you) explain the gaps in interviews?

I left school at 17, did some part time volunteering in a charity shop at 19 for a year, had a retail job for 3 months at 20. It's been nearly a year since I left that job and am trying to get my life back again starting with a min. wage job but I don't see how i'm meant to explain since leaving school 4 years ago I only had a 3 month job and all i've been doing is watching youtube and anime. I have depression and social anxiety but I haven't been diagnosed so I don't think I can really say the gap is because of medical reasons.

No. 575431

>>574490
Do you have a hobby at all? On my resume I said I did "freelance digital art" even though I just took a few commissions throughout the years. Resumes are basically you trying to over-sell the shit you've done as much as possible

No. 575471

Ever since COVID, my anxiety and paranoia have increased to the point that I can't go outside unless I'm with my SO. I was doing really well the beginning of this year, I had a full time job (super shitty, stressful, and toxic work environment; had to quit), I walked to restaurants, stores, bus stops, etc by alone without freaking out too much. Then came COVID, then the protests and riots and violence, and I don't want to ever leave my room. I know I'll feel better if I go outside but the world just feels evil and I feel safer in my cocoon.

No. 575535

>>575431
Not really. I like art but I never do it i'm more of a consumer, I feel like I could lie a bit about being a freelancer though

No. 575541

>>574490
>>575431
Yeah just say you did freelancing (or studying). I've done recruitment for our company myself and personally I've never been interested at looking at the gaps, people go through all sorts of shit and it's none of my business if they seem fine otherwise. A gap of one year isn't even that bad, a lot of people are in a shitty employment situation in today's economy.

No. 579311

I think the roots of my neetness is my complete lack of emotional control. Anyone can reccomend anything to better up? Good or basic, any media form.

No. 580293

>>579311
I feel very hypocritical answering this question because I struggle with the same thing but dialectical behavioral therapy or DBT is often recommended to help with emotional intensity/control issues (it was invented to treat BPD but it's becoming more popular for a variety of MH issues). I've tried it, was too much of a mess to actually do the work involved but even just being exposed to some of the core concepts has helped a lot. You can do it on your own with workbooks/self help books (look into reputable ones), or with individual therapy, or in a group. In my area it seems like both individual and group DBT are available from multiple providers. So there are several ways you could go about trying to integrate it into your life.

No. 596234

After reading the pixyteri thread, I realized I could’ve been just like her if I didn’t get my own shit together which I did, with or without my parents. However, I’m grateful that my mom understands more about my depression than she had in the past.

I may not be bipolar or schizophrenic but I was manic and would react violently to my parents due to the near isolation, verbal/mental abuse and berating/expected servitude had taken its toll on me which to this day I still feel guilty of doing, but am grateful they didn’t kick me out. This was prior to 2015 when I went to another city to receive rehabilitative services for my disability and to get basic knowledge of obtaining a job and going to college which I always wanted to do.

I still battle with depression constantly and live with my parents who financially support me as well as paying my bills because I’m jobless atm even though I’m nearly 30, but I’m currently back in school attending summer classes for my bachelor’s.

I need to remind myself that I am blessed and grateful for the opportunities I’ve been given and that there are those here that are less fortunate like Sarah or even Chris for that matter. The only one I can thank is God for getting me to where I am today, even if it’s a little bit compared to others.

No. 596248

>>533638
I’m now broke and still jobless , I haven’t gotten my employment benefits for two months and my financial aid reimbursements won’t come until September.

On the other hand, I’m back in school!

No. 596303

fuck it, i want to go back to being a neet so bad

No. 596499

>>472315
I feel sorry for you anon. I don't know your life and your struggles like you do, but if your previous aspirations failed you, then consider finding a new purpose. Maybe you were right that we can't escape fate, but your certainty in your future misfortune is disturbing. Do something about. Even if you can't succeed in the way others succeed you are not a failure, because you are yourself(not others), so respect yourself by living in a way that reflects that. You have to conquer those obstacles that are unique to yourself, but don't make yourself your own enemy by seeing yourself as an immovable obstacle.

And honestly I think you are more free than the people who bullied you. You will never have that misdeed to live with, and you have the incredible opportunity to justly defend yourself. More life points for u. :)

In the future please stand up for yourself even if you look like a fool, even against an overpowering enemy. If it is any help remember you have nothing to lose,so know that you can only gain respect by protecting yourself from assault verbal/physical. If you show confidence that you have something worth protecting, people will at least hesitate to hurt you in the future. Whatever you do, don't end your life. I don't encourage violence against others, (mainly cause I don't want jail time,) but if society is causing you pain don't help society by destroying yourself. Redirect your destructive energies elsewhere. If others truly have the power/will to end your life then they would have done it, but they haven't and so they obviously can't, or don't want to. There is no one to fear. Stop looking towards society and it's physical appeals for direction and purpose.

If you want fulfillment don't equate it with success to begin with. We all fail, but people who are grounded in themselves don't need to be given anything,pleasure or praise to reach enlightenment.

No. 599767

Ok, I need some advice FAST. My sister and I are soon moving out of our parents house in the shithole country to live in our shithole town. I haven't had a job since the beginning of the year, but I just can't hold down a job. If we lived in town, I'd be able to actually walk everywhere and be closer to the few jobs in town. I need this so bad. This would be so good for me, but I'm so afraid of quitting a week into the job again. How do I avoid this? I don't even want a job. I'm so depressed all the time from being a complete disappointment and waste of space in my family, but I've been in a rut for years. How the fuck am I supposed to JUST pull myself out?? This is far from easy but this apartment is all my sister is talking abut, I don't want to disappoint her because she can't afford it on her own. But I'm just so deathly afraid of quitting again. Shit's keeping me up at night and I can't sleep. What do I do? What would I do if no one in town even hires me? then what? I'm so scared anons, I just want to be free from this hell. I fucking hate being a NEET. But school gives me anxiety, jobs give me anxiety, taxes give me anxiety, being ALIVE gives me aniety. I'm stressing tf out and I don't know what to do anymore.

No. 599800

>>599767
>I'm so afraid of quitting a week into the job again
>I'm just so deathly afraid of quitting again.
>I'm stressing tf out and I don't know what to do anymore.
Try not quitting? I don't understand what your problem is.

> I don't even want a job

Nobody "wants" to have a job, dipshit. That's why people aim for retirement. If I was your sister and you neglected to hold up your end of the agreement just because you didn't feel like working a job, and everything we planned for fell through because of that, I would be pissed as fuck at you.
You need to take a deep breath, put on your big girl pants, and quit holding pity parties for yourself over easily fixable problems.

No. 599810

>>599800
I really wish people gave me this sort of attitude growing up tbh. There wouldn't be NEETs in the world if parents weren't so soft on their children.

No. 599822

>>599767
you sound really sheltered. figure out coping mechanisms for your anxiety and get a job you can handle. there has to be one that exists. eventually you’ll have to suck it up and work like everyone else. nobody WANTS to work their whole life, people just say that because it’s hard to accept otherwise. go work in a bookstore or something. anxiety sucks but it’s so common that nobody’s going to shit on you for being anxious about working whenever you do get a job. shit’s gonna be okay, anon. it won’t always be comfortable or fun but it’s a necessary evil and at least you’ll have some pocket cash for random stuff you actually DO want to do.

No. 599827

>>599767
I have anxiety/depression and personally for me having a job and routine responsibilities helps me feel less useless. Rn i'm broke and living at my parents since I can't find work and it sucks and having nothing to do puts me into a terrible mindset and worse depression.
Jobs are hard but you have to get used to it and you can maybe even find one that is a good escape from your worries in life. Its always hard in the beginning especially interviews and stuff but it's worth it for your independence.

No. 600260

I'm legitimately nostalgic for my NEET days. I fucking hate my job and I worked over 40 hrs last week when I'm supposed to be part time. I wish I could just lie in bed all day like I used to.

No. 600289

i dont know if im considered a neet because im an age where its not really that weird but i feel like thats an excuse more than anything. i had to drop out of highschool because of my health, and then for the next few years my family did nothing even though i was begging for them to take me to professionals. i couldnt do anything myself because i was a minor still. i finally got help after attempting to run off which i guess made them realize how serious it was. i worked on healing myself for some more than a year and i was finally going to start getting my license and ged and then a job, except then corona hit. ged places werent open at all even online. figured i would wait until the fall when things would probably be fine but because the us sucks at handling shit, things still arent good and nobody knows whats even going on with public schools yet in my state still, let alone anywhere nontraditional.

because i dropped out and was all fucked up i lost what little friends i have. i only have one friend in my life and we almost never see each other though we do text often because we are a 45 minute drive apart. i have almost no one.

i hate it so much. i hate lying around all day and having no real education. i feel like a drain constantly and a massive idiot. i know the world doesnt revolve around me, but it feels like every time something good happens to me and things start going okay they actually end up 100x worse. why does there have to be a pandemic the year i finally have the ability to get my shit together? sorry if this isnt the right thread or something, i usually lurk more than i post.

No. 600342

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Right now I'm in a situation where I have every opportunity to get myself to be independent and confident again. I passed a job interview for a place that's only 10 minutes away and the owner is super friendly and chill. My car is now fixed where I can get back into driving again and my partner is helping me with it, I'm finally going to be able to balance my art/craft with having some stable income and job without feeling like I'm just a failed/broke artist. I don't want to go back faking to my family that I'm living just fine on art alone. I hate have to rely on my partner so much and being home all day just making shit that only sells once in a blue moon.

I'm so excited to feel like I'm worth it again, I'm just scared something bad will happen and I'll revert back because even when I do make money from my art, do chores and make food/dinner for everyone in my household, I still feel like I'm just some moocher because they work way more than me. In a way, I'm scared that even after I start working, I'll realize that I'll never actually be happy with myself, that'll always feel like a failure.

No. 600729

>>599767
i relate to this, i was fired from my second job ever after accidentally not showing up for unmentioned training hours (this was in high school though so who cares now), then i worked at a restaurant for like 3 months and quit because i couldn't handle all the stress and harassment from customers and coworkers, then i finally thought i was escaping my neet lifestyle by getting a cool full time store job and was let go after working for 2 days for a really petty dumb reason. my point is that i'm also very afraid and i have horrible luck and bad anxiety.

No. 602636

I'm one of the 35 year olds who posted way up thread, just got a job recently. Tomorrow will be my third day, and I hope it goes well. So far, I'm still getting used to everything, so I'm still fucking up now and again, but most customers seem cool about it.

I must have completely lucked out on managers, because he's been cool and encouraging so far.

No. 604715

I just booked an appointment to start driving lessons :) I've had a only a permit for 5 years now (i'm 25). Things are gonna be ok

No. 611557

How does one date as a NEET?? I want to get on a dating app, but all I do in my free time is wallow in self-hate and I'm afraid we'd have nothing to talk about

>>604715
>>602636
Congrats to both of you, anons!! You should be proud of yourselves!

No. 615007

I am basically a neet even though I am still in college. Now that corona has happened, all of my classes are online so I feel like even more of a neet. But at least I'm on a trajectory i guess. I was planning to try and get a part time job this year but I dont think I will because I dont want to get corona. Not sure what jobs I should even apply to. And im not sure what to do with my extra freetime. What do you guys do with all of your extra time?

No. 615021

>>615007
I know that feel, anon, I’m the same, my classes are online, well, they’ve always been online, but the point is that on my free time I workout and learn another language, just doing two extra things really helps you feel like you’re being productive. I also draw and sometimes write dumb fanfics, but I don’t really count those as things that will help me feel productive.

Just try thinking of something that makes you feel like you’re spending your time in a good way.

No. 615241

trying so hard to not be a bored broke loser neet but when there's literally no fucking jobs in your city and the economy is getting fucked up again not seeing how i'm supposed to survive unscathed kek.

No. 615346

>>611557
Bump? Dating tips for someone with no life? Please

No. 615507

>>615346
I found a guy through IG. I just posted about one interest and the other posts were selfies. Just comment a lot so people know you are open for a conversation. I would never find a guy irl tbh

No. 615610

>recently left job due to things out of my control
>have enough money to last me for a few months to find new job
I feel myself getting more and more depressed like I was when i was a NEET before. Im scared taking time off without a set schedule is gonna fuck with my depression and im going to become NEET again

No. 633721

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How do people genuinely stop being neets after life has just constantly been punching them in the face? It feels stupid to keep trying if I just have naturally shit luck.

No. 633856

>>633721
Honestly just get a Job and a Hobby, for an adult those are the first big steps one can do to slowly get out of neetdom

No. 634926

Does anyone else talk to themselves a lot? I mean, a lot? I understand that it's normal to talk to yourself, but does anyone else talk like to their imaginary friends pretty much ad nauseum? For hours on end, that is. To the point where you just don't even consider seeking outside interaction.

For example, I was alone in the house, talking to myself as I usually do. I was having a really animated conversation, and I didn't hear my uncle come into the house. When I was done, I came out of my bedroom to see him in the office next to mine, to rather mortifying effect. He asked me if I was talking to a friend on the phone, but I'm a horrible liar and made it pretty obvious what I was doing. God, that was horribly cringey.

But, I've been thinking recently, in the presence of others, it's so easy to act timid. You never really know what they want. Why bother with the company of others when you can get your own? You don't have to be a neet to be asocial. There are still loner hobbies out there like biking, running, hiking, making kit models, and so on. I hate the idea that, in order to reject your neethood, you have to reject your entire personality. I'm pretty much the same person as I was when I was a neet, except I'm employed, I have hobbies, and I talk to my family more. It's not as bad as it seems, I feel.

No. 634930

>>634926
I have conversations with a videogame character in my head daily. I don't know if it's bad, it's a way to work through my feelings. And the character is a nice caring mentor type so I use it to soothe myself too. But yeah getting caught by family is embarrassing, I now always wear earphones so when I make a face in reaction to the convo in my head I can pretend it's due to something I'm listening to.

Normies put too much emphasis on socializing. If you're a person who grew up with little to no socializing then it wouldn't make sense that you'll want to socialize at the level that normies do. That's my opinion anyways. Not to discourage people who want to socialize more. But if you're content and happy by your self then I don't see a problem.

No. 634946

>>633721
I feel this comment so much… I had a really fundie dysfunctional fucked up childhood. Life feels like a black comedy, when things fuck up, they really fuck up. It's why sometimes I have to laugh when shit constantly happens to me.

My anxiety is at an all time high. I have to be drunk and/or high to leave my house without freaking the fuck out and trying to remind myself not to hyperventilate. Sudden noises make me physically jump and I feel crazy for looking weird in public.

I just want to stay in my house with my cat all day. Outside fucking sucks. People fucking suck and confuse me. I feel like a nut.

/End emo blog post

No. 635799

>>634946
I know right… Sometimes I wonder if it's I just attract bad people & I havent been socialized enough growing up to know how to move through the world easier … Or if I'm literally. Just. Straight up cursed or born under a bad star sign or something.

No. 635815

>>634926
>>634930

I talk to myself a lot too. I’m not necessarily lonely these days, but I’ve always just done it. I have people/characters I converse with sometimes also, other than myself.
I grew up in a pretty lonely little world as a kid, and I think it always helped me cope and work through my emotions. Tbh, I find my own conversation comforting these days.

No. 635824

>>634926
the key to not being timid is to not focus on meeting what others want in the first place which ironically will make them like you more because you stop being awkward and more relaxed around them

No. 635829

>>634926
I talk to myself all the time. Tbh I vastly prefer my own company than talking with anyone else. Conversations with others will often bore me or drain me, but I have no such issues conversing with myself, it's endless amusement.

No. 636740

>>615007
I'm in the same situation and I was actually planning to try to get my first job such as retail or grocery or something in the summer but then the virus happened (yes I was actually going to try not just say I would then do nothing). I thought I could get one soon but now my country is entering the second wave of the virus and I just don't want to risk it. I hate how I'm wasting another year with no work experience ever and I feel so behind compared to my friends who are so much more independent than me, and now if I try to get a job after the virus I fear they're going to judge me for being so old and never having a job. In my free time I explore outside, consume media that I torrented (books, films) and I just got an instrument for my birthday which I'll start self-teaching when it arrives. I also use the website Prolific to get money for small things I want and I search for online jobs.

No. 637640

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I got accepted for an at home document scanning job. I feel like I can handle that and I'm exited to get some spare money, but my parents are all 'why don't you get a full time job outside of the house huh???'. I'm trying my best, but it never seems to be enough for them, they want me to turn into a normie over night. I get burnt out just listening to them.

No. 637656

>>637640
Good job, anon! I'm happy for you! Fuck them, just do your best and try not to stagnate. You're steering the right course!

No. 637712

Ex neet still struggling with anxiety around doing certain adult things… I now live alone but I ordered a fucking fridge 3 weeks ago and the delivery estimate came and went with no fridge. Emailed multiple times with no reply and finally rang today.

God I fucking hate making those kinds of calls. Worth it though, getting refunded. If I weren't so broke I'd be tempted to be like "welp that's 200 quid I won't see agan, no biggie" That's how much I dread phone calls.

No. 637756

>>637712
I feel you. My sink has been broken for like a month but I haven't called maintenance to fix it yet bc I hate having people in my apartment and also hate making phone calls to schedule a time for them to come over. I've just been using my bathroom sink for everything.

No. 637762

>>634946
Exactly the same. I also vomit on occasions when I'm forced to interact with people.

Also, I feel like a NEET even though I do technically work online and make more than the average wage in my country.
I'm afraid if my online earnings for whatever reason stop that I'll be forced to actually work with people.
I'm immensely happy that this thread exists because otherwise I'd sound like a special snowflake so reading all these posts that sound as if I've written them gives me a bit of solace.

If it weren't for internet I'm sure I would have already killed myself. The few times I had a normal job it went badly despite all of my good will and attempts.

>>637640
I'm so proud of you anon! It's the little steps that count and your parents are terrible for not being more encouraging. I completely understand how you feel. My parents did the same thing. It's like they don't realize how much effort it takes to muster the strength for any type of socializing and interaction. They would see me trembling and vomiting but it didn't matter one bit.

No. 638301

I almost feel like I have no right to post here. I just got a job after 2 years of being NEET from graduating, was financially supported by my partner but we broke up not long ago. I'm 29. I felt literally worthless tbh, not being given even the opportunity to prove my worth. I tried to get internships (rejected) and volunteered but I never fit in.

It's very temporary but it's a graduate job, rent and bills would cost about 1/5th of my wage which is the smallest percentage I've ever had to pay. Up until now I've done shitty customer service jobs where it took up like 80% of my wage and the rest went on food. My whole ethos is based on being super frugal at all times, I don't know what I'll do with my disposable income.

I'm also generally an anxious wreck. Customer service was OK because they didn't expect you to care, I could put on a whole ass fake persona. When I did an internship that had actual office politics it drained me and I ended up only coming in once everyone left (thank god I could be flexible) because I couldn't stand it. It was like I had to be myself, but a very curated version of myself who dealt with hypocrisy, backstabbing and credit stealing.

So how can I deal in a 9-5 Mon-Fri environment where it's been described as "can get stressful, don't take things personally".

I mean I'm so glad I can be independent and all that, but the thought of not being able to handle it terrifies me.

And jumping from quarantine where I only interact with my ex to a full working environment seems so so overwhelming.

No. 639732

Is anyone else a hopeless neet? It's been almost two years since I went outside and I don't know if I'll ever manage to get better again, I don't even have a rock bottom because it just keeps getting worse and worse. I would love to find a shut in friend to share feels with who's in the same boat and understands.

No. 641126

I am a neet at 21, I used to feel so shitty all the time partly because of that. doing loads better with depression but I still feel bad for it. however I've been working in therapy to view myself better, to accept how I dropped out of college due to physical illness. and it wasn't even the first after multiple illnesses, my luck is so shit.

Eh i'll be honest I'm posting here because an anon elsewhere said neets have no excuse and it hurt my feefees lol… I mean she's right, it's just that it's been so fucking miserable. I don't see how I could have prevented those illnesses. It's probably true though, that if I'd tried harder I would be better off by necessity. I made a lot of mistakes staying home in high school from anxiety and shit that I should've faced and tried harder. I was too dumb to do more in therapy than cry lol

I live with my parents and right now there's corona so yay lol. That's why I'm not going for a job exactly. I'm probably gonna enroll in the local community college and not let myself give up. with classes online that seems the safest option. my therapist says it can work long term to get me a career and move out, my ultimate goal

Yeah so idk the guilt sucks. I wish I didn't end up like this. I wish I could've stayed in school despite the already crushing guilt of using my parents' money for uni while completely lost about what I was doing there, or at least have had a job

No. 641136

>>641126
That anon hurt me too. But she most likely is one of those people who thinks everyone has the same opportunity and if they fail it's their fault.

I'm a 28yo NEET. Worked one year of my life. I'm planning a life were I don't have to work, as it's just not realistic that I will be happy that way. I want to grow all kind of stuff in my garden and sell it so I make a little bit of money and have something to do.

No. 641140

>>641136
I want to hug you don't feel too bad pls, you're right.(I'm overemotional sorry)

You know that's a beautiful aspiration I hope you can make it happen some day soon. Gardening seems so therapeutic in general. That sounds like a dream I don't see why you shouldn't want that, idk reading this made me feel better and I really wish you the best. It must be exciting to imagine how your garden will be

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>>641140
Thank you baby neet. I have thick coat because I'm a neet so long. Sometimes I even forget that people hate us, that anon reminded me of that.

No. 641168

>>641136
27 year old neet here. I’ve always wanted to keep chickens and goats.
Do you want to start a neet farm.

No. 641173

>>641168
Not sure about goats, but chickens are my dream. If anything fails, can we just marry and have a farm pls?

No. 641191

>>641126
Hello anon, I'm also 21 and a neet due to illness. I used to have all these projects and ideas and hopes in my head, and seeing them being crushed because of something you cannot control would make anyone feel miserable. Don't be so hard on yourself, and don't listen to that anon, she doesn't know what she's talking about. It's great that you plan on enrolling in college again! I hope everything goes well. Not really much to say, I just really empathise with you and wish you well!

No. 641331

>>641136
>>641126
30 yr old unemployed spoonie here and I agree that hearing people make the generalized assumption that everyone is in their current situation totally because of their own laziness or weakness can leave you feeling very guilty. Worst still when it comes to illness "well I know of this person who has the same thing and they're fine!" implying you're just making excuses. It really does hurt to hear and you start questioning your own decisions and self-worth based on the standards of others.
Stay strong, anons. I know that's easier said than done but if we survive 2020 we're stronger than we know.

No. 641593

how do i get thicker skin when i don't even have thin skin but none at all?

in the past two years i've went to school, gotten my driver's license, gotten into a serious relationship. now i finally have a job. (technically my second one. my first one lasted a week…)

i'm terrified i won't be able to keep it. i'm good at the busy work but i go full autism mode when interacting with strangers, aka all customers. i'm awkward and shy, even when i try to act confident and repeat what my coworkers say it doesn't feel natural and i'm sure it doesn't look natural. people being rude or impatient hurts, i take it to heart even though i know i shouldn't. my hands noticeably shake when i get nervous. then i make stupid mistakes because my brain and body are in an anxiety frenzy.

feeling pretty shitty about my lack of living skills tbh

No. 641690

I became a complete social recluse for the past eight months, even though I was previously very extroverted. Quarantine destroyed my social skills, and I've had a bit of emotional trauma this year. I've become very paranoid and scared of people.
But today (!!!!!!!!!) I decided to talk to a girl who had sat next to me. It took me about 50 mins to muster up the courage. we talked abt nirvana, courtney love case (kek), when i moved here, etc. my only friend spoke to me today, i always expect ppl to ignore me. it gave me such a confidence boost. imma go back to my old self now. feelsgood.

No. 641962

I realised my post is probably more relevant to this thread than any other.

Past 18 months or so I've been unemployed and looking. Not had a job in at least 5 years though and before that they were all minimum wage I didn't give a shit about. Now that I have a contract secured I'm so scared of it all. Literally only dealing with the calls, emails and contracts my daily workload has jumped tenfold. I haven't even started but I'm wondering WTF did I do with all the free time I had?

What if I'm late? I need to be up closer to 5 than my usual 7.
What if I get my period?
What if I straight up don't feel like it that day?
What if I get a headache?
What if the staff are mean?
Worse, what if the boss is mean?
What if the trains are really crowded and uncomfortable?
What if I really need to do a big shit but the bathrooms always have someone in them?
What if the weather is AWFUL?

I'm tired today because I had to answer like 3 emails and make a phone call. How will it be with 8 hours of solid work + a 1 hour commute each way?

It's a privileged af issue to have, but the home/unemployed conveniences are something I've had for long enough to be used to and unsure how I'll go without. If it was raining heavily I'd just curl up with some tea, when I was stressed I'd just promise myself I'd do less and relax a bit. Assholes? Just stop associating with them. Can't do that with a job.

I feel so ungrateful. I used to think all my issues would be solved with a job, and it's like I'm making new ones up because I just can't be without problems.

No. 641980

>>641593
The only things you can really do are practice, and “fake it ‘til you make it”.

My first full time wage slave job after I turned 18 was in fashion retail. It suddenly required me to approach and up-sell grumpy people while getting watched through cameras and constantly harassed through an earpiece. On top of that, most of my coworkers and managers were fucked in the head, nitpicky, high school tier gossipers. It was hellish for the year I was there, but it snapped me out of my shy, spaghetti spilling shit and I went into my next job feeling (and appearing) way more normie/capable.

No. 642002

>>641980
Nta but this fake me til you make it shit broke me. Maybe it works for some people tho

No. 642039

>>641962
>> What if I'm late? I need to be up closer to 5 than my usual 7. And?

>>What if I get my period? Take tampons.


>>What if I straight up don't feel like it that day? Grow up


>>What if I get a headache? Take a Panadol


>>What if the staff are mean? Worse, what if the boss is mean? Toughen up.


>>What if the trains are really crowded and uncomfortable? Stand and suck it up. Are your legs broken?


>>What if I really need to do a big shit but the bathrooms always have someone in them? Shit or get off the pot.


>>What if the weather is AWFUL?

Wear a jacket.

This is shit school children have usually learned to handle. How did you even get hired?

No. 642124

I wrote this in the vent thread but I'm going to post here too because it fits better. I feel like I'm never going to find a job. I have shitty social skills, non-existant self-esteem, I'm slow, I have a shitty degree in a useless humanities field and I've worked in the same place for 4 years, so I don't have experience in other fields. I feel fucked.
I know my attitude and my beliefs are a big part of the problem - I don't think of myself as a worthy human being, I don't feel like I have anything to offer and I radiate uncertainty, self-hate and low self-esteem and the potential employees pick up on that. But how the fuck can I change all these in a short amount of time?? I need a job as soon as possible

No. 642156

>>642124
I had a shitty job for nearly a decade and NO DEGREE and you wanna know how I jumped into a career I don't hate?
I literally pretended, as hard as I could, that I was at least a successful Becky with a tragic backstory (it helps that my life was actually pretty tragic), and I got hired.
Just lie. Don't lie about things you'll get caught on, but lie to yourself that you're worth more, and that you can change your life.

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No. 652626

I just want a neet friend who has crippling social anxiety and can't go outside at all like me is that so much to ask lol…

No. 657941

Blogpost, I went to drop off my resume at a small grocery store, felt like I was going to shit and throw up but I managed to fake being chipper with only one fuckup (I insinuated that they didn't get sales as much during no holiday days). I hope they hire me, it's full of older European ladies that remind me of my mom.

No. 659563

"Recovered" NEET, going to second year of university this semester, but now every course is online so it's almost like I'm back in my NEET days, kek. It feels so weird listening to everyone moan and cry about not being able to hang out that much and being inside all day while I feel great. Obviously I won't admit to that.

No. 659580

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>>657941
They want to train me, I'm hired? Still feels like a joke. I'm scared, I'm going to start in a few days. Now I have to make up a normie tier excuse of why I didn't work or go to school for a few years.

No. 659582

>>659563
Neets have natural resistance to pandemic hysteria kek. Yeah the shutting down of society is bad but I still find it kind of comfy, lots of people have to be hermits now and it doesn't feel as bad to be a hermit anymore.

No. 659586

>>659580
Just say you dropped out or had to take care of a sick family member or something like that.

Good luck, you can do it!!

No. 659687

>>659580
I have a year long gap and just said I went to school online part time and helped a family member with childcare.

No. 659800

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I'm so happy anons! After a year of NEET-dom I've finally managed to get a job. I'm working as a tutor, which I really love because it's good pay for relatively few hours and I can pick my schedule plus I enjoy teaching.

My next steps are applying for grad school in the field I want to go to and finding a hobby after lockdown ends. I'm hoping that because everybody has been forced to limit their social interaction no one will be able to detect that I'm an autistic hikki.

No. 659886

Signed up for fetlife today advertising myself being a 20 y/o virgin

Hoping for some guy to show me the ropes

I don't have high hopes

No. 659888

>>659886
>Hoping for some guy to show me the ropes
You mean take advantage of you because you've advertised just how inexperienced and vulnerable you are? And on a fetish site, jesus christ… please anon, just find a decent normie guy. They won't care if you're a virgin and it's not hard to learn how to fuck, I promise.

No. 659889

>>659800
adorable alligator and that's great progress!!!

No. 659890

>>659886
He's going to show you the ropes in his murderape van, you fucking toddler

No. 659891

>>659886
Why would you post this here

No. 659892

>>659800
Congrats anon!!!

No. 659895

>>659886
Anon please don't do this. The people who use fetlife are really fucked up and you could be putting yourself in harm's way.

No. 659905

>>659886
>fetlife
>virgin

Just use a dating site you loon, imagine being a virgin and jumping straight to a fetish site.
>dating site: socially retarded porn addicted scrotes
>fetish site: manipulative sociopathic porn addicted scrotes

Choose your poison.

No. 663895

I do want to go back to college but I don't know if I can. I wasn't even a hermit for very long, but my cognitive abilities have become dog shit. Any one else become legitimately stupider after being a neet?

No. 663901

>>663895

Yes. Get yourself ready before going back to school it will make life easier and not be wasting your money and time.

No. 663903

I was a neet until age 19 (literally dropped out of school super young because of extreme agoraphobia and neglectful parents) somehow I’ve managed to become a functioning member of society and am a working human living alone at the grand age of 25. I have a lot of love and sympathy for fellow neets.

No. 663913

>>663895
I put my degree on hold for 5 years and am just returning now. Prepare yourself by building good habits, healing eating and exercise and a regular sleep schedule. Create a stable home environment where you can feel good about studying. Make sure you have the tools you need to handle anxiety, whether you rely on cbt or therapy or medication. If you can help it, consider registering for half instead of a full course load. All of these will help tremendously. Ime the first month and a bit was the toughest for overcoming brain rot, but put in the effort and your hard work will pay off. The clear trajectory of your improvement will motivate you and you'll feel good about finishing your degree. Don't let fear hold you back, you can do this anon. It's not too late to refine your critical thinking skills I promise you!

No. 664015

>>663903
share more please anon, i basically dropped out of school at age 11 and never worked a day until i was almost 20. what was your path

No. 664039

I am 24 and I feel I’ve been a partial NEET since I finished high school at age 17. I’ve had anxiety and depression since I was 4 years old because I lived in an abusive household and was bullied relentlessly at school. I have felt suicidal since I was 12 but I was only diagnosed with depression and anxiety until I was around 16-17. I have no positive memories of my childhood and I never had any real friends because the “friends” I did make were never close to me (they felt more like acquaintances) or ended up betraying me in some way (such as ditching me to be with “cooler“ people) which is why I am so afraid of becoming close to people.

I saw many psychologists and psychiatrists but it really did not work out, I was transferred around a lot by them because my case was “so severe”. I did attend university for about 2 years from 19 to 20 but my mental illness had me failing everything and I dropped out. I wasn’t able to socialise with anybody and while I tried to make friends I came off as awkward and I was afraid of becoming too close. I later attended some training to become a lab tech when I was 21 but my brother’s attempted murder attempt of my mother and my grandmother passing away from cancer had me not attend the classes for 2 years - I just stayed at home and cried all day during those years.

I only received a lab tech certificate when I was 23. I found out I couldn’t get any job with my certificate and I was recommended to do the diploma. I started doing my diploma but I had severe concentration problems because of my anxiety (I kept dissociating in class) and I was always depressed. I failed multiple subjects again. My teacher wanted to talk with me about repeating my classes but the COVID-19 pandemic had the institute reduce its hours making it very hard for me to make any appointment with him and my grandfather was diagnosed with epilepsy so the family has had to take care of him. So much time has elapsed by then that I was too afraid to go back to the institute and I feel like I have forgotten everything I have learned (my memory is horrible). This whole year I have had to stay at home and I’ve just been even more anxious and depressed the whole time. I cry a lot anytime I think about my life and how I have achieved nothing with it. I even downloaded some friending apps just to get some socialization but nobody would even send a message to me because I am ugly looking. I even thought about attending some social events in the local community but there’s nothing available because of the ongoing pandemic.

I have no degree, never had a job, don’t have any friends, never had any boyfriend, live with my parents, and basically stay home all day surfing the web. I feel worse when I look at what my people my age are up to and how I am completely unable to relate to any of them which furthers my isolation from society.

No. 664112

>>652626
Do you want my email? I could also make a Discord if you are more comfortable with that. Please contact me, I want to talk to other NEETs because it's so lonely.

No. 664875

>got diagnosed with complex post traumatic stress disorder, generalised anxiety disorder, and major depressive disorder

feels bad man

No. 668462

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Does anyone know any tips on how to push through and get your shit together even if you have extreme avoidant tendencies? I haven't come across much good advice except "be more mindful". And while that is good advice, it's not really enough. It helps but not enough. Has anyone been able to manage their extreme anxiety or depression? If so, what helped?

No. 668474

>>668462
Probably wont be helpful but… Facing direct consequences for not doing what I had to do. Like getting late fees, breakout from not doing hygiene, etc. I now have a job after being neet for 3 yrs because my parents threatened to kick me out. On my work break I lock myself in the bathroom and stress cry. Im not saying 'suck it up' but compartamentalizing can help you push through for the stuff that really needs to get done.

No. 668479

>>668474
nta but this is something i needed to hear right now

No. 668729

>>668462
Kinda similar to the other anon but my therapist made me figure out external motivational factors that I have control over. For example while sitting in therapy she made me text my roommate to ask if she could help me write a cover letter. (I don't need help writing, I need help getting motivated to write.) Organizing a study group for college work. Telling my mom about a cool job opening or an upcoming exam because my mom WILL ask about it next time we chat and guilt trip me if I didn't apply or didn't study.

As you can see most of my motivation comes from other people.

No. 677837

It makes me sad to see this thread kinda inactive. I've been breaking my own NEET records lately. It's been like 4 years? Though I did get my get shit together in some forms I still have no progress on getting monetizable skills. I'm just stuck on this loop of not doing anything productive. Sometimes I break the cycle and actually do stuff but this time I'm failing pretty help. Anybody who has any tips for getting off your ass basically?

No. 677849

>>668729
Nta and late reply. External motivations do nothing for me if they're negative, because tbh my main problem is with authority. Consequences for actions I choose to do are easier to deal with mentally than doing things I am asked/forced to.
Does the external motivation method also have a positive side?

No. 677851

>>677849
nta but you gotta form goals, envision yourself doing something you want, to the point it can be motivation that's empowering. too often I'd focus on those externals, and the guilt, then end up not improving at all because of it. And idk helps to remember how shit it feels to be like this now. it's tempting in the moment but then you regret the choices you made or didn't make. It feels good to have done something worthwhile. Additionally, for me I had to see the bigger picture, like is this how I'm living the one life I'm given? is this how I want to go down as? the neet who did nothing? no, I want to make something of myself, though it doesn't have to be big. it's kind of a sense of shame but from your own self. our values may differ though but best wishes

No. 677854

>>677851
o I want to add that you can reward yourself for small achievements. snacks or other indulgements, they can be prizes for when you successfully face/get something done, if the feeling itself is not enough

adding to all of this I'm also in therapy and it has helped once I realized I needed to put in full effort. It's not even hard i just didn't understand how therapy works at first lol, it doesn't happen magically in one try

No. 677855

>>677851
Thanks for advice anon, but idk if I'll ever go back to college.

No. 677860

>>677855
then is there some other option? or maybe the issue(s) you have with college need to be faced? not trying to disregard that, but I'm actually gonna go back myself. I had some faulty beliefs about what would happen if I did, that cbt was able to help. there are resources online for that too. I want to give school another chance, because I've learned things and reached the end of my rope with being a neet. And while there's no guarantee college won't bring struggles, there's also no guarantee it will. or that I can't face them better. Anyway sorry if this all ends up not helping. what's good is even by posting here it shows you haven't given up. You're still trying to find a way and that's a crucial part to grapple with

No. 677863

>>677860
ugh sorry last post, but I have to add if you have really bad mental problems then obviously therapy is something I believe in (if you can afford it). things aren't gonna solve themselves and you can always get better at your approach. I spent so much time in bed with no hope and now that has changed, which is huge in itself for me. again good luck!!

No. 677906

>>677837
Yeah I get that, I got a job a month ago and stopped being neet, am driving to practice for my license… But nothing feels different. Still dead inside but now I just have extra stress and abit of money. I don't know what advice to give, other than just keep trying, if you still have the spirit. Going downtown to look at homeless ppl scares me into keep going to work.

No. 678736

this doesn't really qualify as a neet but throughout ages 13-17 I was extremely isolated from other people due to bullying which made me quite socially inept and I still struggle with a lot of shit I did back then.
notably I have to force myself to meet new people and spend time with them even when i'm feeling lonely and want to see someone because I got so used to being alone as an extrovert that I conditioned myself to accept it and being overly social is alien to me. I sometimes neglect my relationships because I just don't know how they're supposed to look. I got into social media pretty late for this day and age too (like 17 when I finally started recovering) so when someone I just met adds me to talk I never message me them unless they do it.
But I think my biggest struggle is my depressive thoughts over everything I have missed out on. Sometimes I will watch a coming of age movie with young girls bonding and feel so incredibly sad because I never got to experience any of this and likely won't anytime soon as I'm struggling with making friends and everyone I knew irl is scattered across different cities because of college. I have one friend close to me but she's very introverted and prefers texting unless I'm such a loser she's just making excuses to not hurt my feelings lol

No. 692783

>>668462
This might sound morbid but try thinking about what it'll be like when you die, and imagine the handful of possibilities (be VERY realistic, rather than exaggerated- life is not a hollywood movie). After around a week of panic attacks, and remembering the brutal natures of life, I started getting "my shit together" and now I'm volunteering 5 days a week, and might get a part time soon (I can't guarantee that I'll land this one, but its worth the shot).

Routines are vital in getting out of the toxic NEET hole, start off with cleaning your room, or at least parts of it, and tell yourself explicitly that "if you aren't able to do this thing to your fullest; you won't be able to do the things you desire with your 200% effort" Your life depends on this routine and the others to follow. Keep continuing your routine until you're comfortable enough to "do more", you can ask your parents and whatnot on chores you can help with.

Also remember that despite whatever repetitive mistakes you have; you should notice that your recent mistakes were less bad than your first ones. You are responsible for your own self, so it won't be 'foolish' to like & respect yourself.

We're all gonna die one day, each in our own ways. Be grateful for the precious things you have still, and don't be afraid of experiencing things (safely- don't do shit like drugs omg). And find ways to take in the feelings of your sadness, not to amplify or force your sadness out, but just take it all in. Fictional examples are dumb, but this is the best I can find to explain what I mean.

No. 692968

These posts made me think, what do you do when you have a vision of what you want to do? I know what my direction is but realistically there are too many things in the way. Right now I'm just waiting to hit rock bottom and die. I at least like how dramatic it all is.

No. 692971

>>692968
Also to add that what stops me from talking to people getting out of neetdom is the fact that I can't present myself the way I want. I know it's superficial but looks are everything imo, and I will never be able to invest in the image I want

No. 692977

>>692968
Can you segment it? I’m assuming you’re thinking of a situation along the lines of needing a BA to get into a career but you dropped out of high school. Some people might be motivated throughout the process by thinking of the career, but some people might be put off as it’s so far away. In the latter case, you could focus on achieving each big step. Step one, the goal is to get your GED or whatever so you can get into college - but rather than thinking about it as step one, see it as the end goal if that makes sense. That way it’ll feel closer to achieving, then when you move onto step two you can think about that. Don’t get ahead of yourself, and remember that each step is an independent achievement, not just you inching toward your goal.

> realistically there are too many things in the way

At the risk of sounding like a motivational speaker, there were many things in your way when you were learning to walk, talk and all the other complex things that no one is born able to do. Human beings can be remarkably determined, it’s difficult to harness but the raw material is inside you somewhere.

Finally >>692971
Don’t be silly nonnie, even if you’re genetically completely fucked (which I doubt) that’s no excuse to NEET your life away. If you’re not going to be Miss World then might as well put effort into something achievable.

No. 694500

Every weekend I get a taste of being neet again and I miss it, I hate this "just go to work to save money for school" part of recovery. I'm getting white hairs from all the stress of trying to interact normally with people at work, and not accidently offending them, and ultimately failing. But since I can work a "normal" job I'll never be considered for autismbucks. I can't even use autism to explain to my parents why I failed at life because they'll think it's some lazy excuse and be even more disappointed in me.

No. 694651

>>694500
how do u offend ppl anon?

No. 695828

Really wish more people would post their overcoming NEETdom stories. I need some sort of baseline as to where to start, how do I progress. I know about the setting small goals thing but how small are we talking about here

No. 698754

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I'm not 100% a NEET since I'm doing my bachelor's degree but I wanted to drop out since the first semester, and I'm so close to failing pretty much every subject not because I'm stupid but because I don't study at all because I have no motivation to do nothing doing relatively good for someone who never studies my life has been just memes and stupid IB and internet culture for years, everything is the same and life has become tasteless and without a purpose, I don't have friends and my relationship with my family is shit, I don't read books, I don't watch movies or shows because nothing catches my interest anymore, I'm so detached from my own country's politics and so focused on American politics, I lost interest in everything I once enjoyed, quarantine made everything worse and even my speech deteriorated I can't socialize with people anymore and every other issue became worse than before.


I've been feeling confused about my own identity and purpose for the past couple months but with no real answer, I've tried sitting with myself and trying to figure it out time and time again but I couldn't every time but I always tried to make a change. Last night I had an epiphany while lying in bed thinking of all the years I spent online, I knew exactly what to do… I deleted 1.5k+ of the memes I had, unfollowed almost a hundred accounts, and I left half of the discord servers I was in, I'm gonna start trying to look tamer because I wouldn't be able to live with myself as a 100% normie but I'll try and be more normal and happy, I'll fix my relationship with everyone and try to make new friends that I can meet IRL, I will get back to my hobbies slowly and I will start learning more about all sorts of things and I'm gonna get better at school so I can secure a job when I graduate… I will have more to my life than the internet, the bits I experienced when I pushed myself to change felt great, I felt alive.

Hope this one sticks and I don't relapse into the madness that is internet addiction. life isn't too bad.

No. 698774

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Former neet here
I was a neet from age 15-18 with one year spent not leaving my room. I eventually had to get physiotherapy to recover my body from not leaving my bed for basically a year. There were a lot of reasons why I became a neet, but like most here, the biggest reason was mental health issues like PTSD, depression, anxiety and undiagnosed autism. At age 18 I spent a year in a mental institution and was eventually diagnosed which helped me a lot with figuring out how my brain works and how to make myself be productive, but interestingly, the mental institution wasn't what helped me get out of my behavior. A very traumatic event happened when I left the institution and after that I basically just… changed. I asked myself 'Why does this keep happening to me? Why are people so cruel?' and other self-pitying thoughts. What made me change was realising that I wasn't making things better by neglecting my health and that self-pity wasn't going to help me either. What's important is to be stern with yourself, but kind… And self-pity isn't self-care. After that I gradually learnt how to take care of myself and I started going to school again (better late than never) I stopped caring about trying to appease people and I just let myself exist and think about how I can improve to make me like myself more. I'm now 20 and finally on my last year of high school and I'm doing great! I want to get a job where I can help people and be useful. It really feels great knowing you're on the right track and being able to be proud of yourself… Don't give up! It will be hard in the beginning when you go out and try to change, but eventually you will feel that struggle is a part of you learning to respect yourself.

No. 698784

>>694651
I try to be positive and talk, but can't keep it up for long so I go silent after a while, which I guess they see as me being rude? (its an all female workplace). I sometimes ask qs to clarify but they answer like it should be obvious. I don't talk about myself either BC I like my privacy but it seems like that offends them? But I still don't want to do it.

No. 698787

>>698784
>>694500
nta but I had the exact same problem. I don't know how I'd survive if I didn't have an online job. They really do get offended but there's no way I'm going to force myself to talk shit just for the sake of it and even worse, to gossip. I'm probably going to start looking for jobs again and I dread if my next work environment is going to be remotely similar. The last job I had had your identical situation where at the end of my contract, the women started resenting me. I'm slow at picking cues but few months in I started sensing that they were angry at me for not joining in with their convos. I just wish I could do my job and that's it. It's not that I was rude, I just didn't have anything to add to their conversations and I'm frankly not interested in their lives. I became a long time NEET after that experience. It burnt me out so much.

No. 698794

>>698754
Rooting for you, anon. That's a pretty huge step to take

No. 698802

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>>695828
Small steps are great, but what worked for me was throwing myself to adversity, confronting real life and doing the best I can. I wasn't a NEET but in high school I was depressed, had unhealthy habits and severe anxiety. Before going to college, I worked in retail for a few weeks at my parents' clothing store and that made such a difference. At the start I was a mess, made many mistakes and was uncomfortable all the time but with patience, perseverance, and the (healthy) pressure to do good, I got better, learnt a lot of skills, started feeling at ease in "real life situations" and ended every day feeling proud of myself.
Adversity makes us grow because it pushes us out of our comfort zone, feeling challenged and uncomfortable it's great for developing a thick skin and getting your priorities right, so I'd recommend you to get into an activity that it's safe, difficult but doable, like a sport that you always wanted to try, language classes or maybe a job at a familiar area

No. 699540

Is there a way to improve social/emotional intelligence alone in quarantine? I lost my two remaining friends recently, they cut me off and I'm all alone now. I'm not going to go into the details, but it all comes down to my lack of emotional intelligence. I'm super awkward socially and very often in social situations I realize retrospectively that I behaved insensitively or unempathically. I also have a staggering fear of emotional intimacy, I find it super hard to open up. Whenever someone asks me personal questions, I feel attacked, although I know I shouldn't. Whenever I'm in any sort of a relationship I feel a strong inclination to cut it off, be it a friendship or a romantic relationship, because in my head, being alone = safety, but at the same time I crave closeness. How do I change this? I feel lost, they were my only friends

No. 700066

I've let myself get lazier during lockdown and not look for jobs at all, using the virus as an excuse. Things are still pretty bad where I live but my boyfriend wants to buy a house next year, so I'll have to have income to take some of the pressure off of him. I was planning to go back to school to pick up a trade I'm genuinely interested in and where I would get work experience, but he thinks it'd just enable me further.

Getting a job seems so impossible. I don't even have the documents you need to work in this country yet (applied for them this year, but my application has been stuck in covid limbo for months). I have degrees but they're useless humanities, I don't have any work experience, and my anxiety is so bad I vomit and faint in stressful situations. I've never gotten a reply to any of my job applications but I imagine that if I ever got an interview I'd be so anxious I'd just faint there.

Mental health professionals don't take me seriously (I have a diagnosis for my autism but they downplay it because I "seem" fine) and I no longer have the energy to chase after them and convince them to help me. My boyfriend wants to help and I'm grateful for his support, but I don't believe I have what it takes to change. I'm completely stuck.

No. 704018

Anons, give me positive motivation for getting a job.
The way I see it is like this:
>having a min wage job is not different than being neet wrt how people treat you. in people's eyes the min wage worker is the same as the homeless people outside
>being a wageslave is just being a neet with extra steps
>the only jobs I can get involve talking to people, I don't want people looking at me and judging me
>a job will not bring the incredible change people like to talk about, things will be the same but with more stress
>I can't go to college (and I have already dropped out for financial reasons)
Negative motivation doesn't work because I'm not afraid of becoming homeless or anything similar. It's all the same.

No. 704035

>>704018
There's literally no other motivation to get a job than money.
Everything else a job gives you can get with a fulfilling hobby or activity. It's just about the money. You won't get your kick in the butt. It's take it or leave it.

No. 704307

>>704018
Like other anon said, money. My face is partly why I'm neet, so I work to get money to fix it (masks make working much easier). It doesn't give you the life's kick in the butt, but atleast it keeps you from slipping back into poor habits.

No. 704314

>>700066
>I have degrees but they're useless humanities, I don't have any work experience.
I feel so bad for some of you anons who put down the worth of your degrees just because that's what you've heard by an online echo chamber that stands to benefit from you passing up opportunities you don't think you qualify for.
You have transferable skills, you have an education. While it will take more tailoring, you absolutely can create a narrative that demonstrates how your skills match a job description. If you're not already doing it, make sure you copy and paste the job description into your resume and personalize it by applying anything relevant you may have done throughout your education.
Wrote an essay? Then you utilized computer software to write correspondence and reports.
Worked in a group? Then you've collaborated projects and are a communicative team player.
Stood in front of a classroom? Then you've presented research and answered questions.
It's not extrapolation, you just need to know how to frame your experience. Also look into ATS and other forms of employment application trickery that make shit easy for employers, even qualified candidates don't get far if they don't understand how modern application systems work. Failing that, pay a service to rework your resume for you.
The missing work docs will be your biggest hurdle but you could use this time to craft a very convincing resume that's not bullshit.

t. BA and MA degree anon who currently works alongside BS degree holders and engineers

No. 704327

>>704314
This is genuinely so fucking helpful. Thank you so much.

No. 704527

>>704018
anon if it helps, have you considered cleaning jobs? i did housekeeping to avoid having to interact with people as much. you do to get trained and stuff but thats it, after that you get to work by yourself and i listened to music/podcasts/youtube all day every day tbh. it helped me leave my NEET phase

No. 704917

>>704035
>>704307
Oh ok. I always thought that your job is supposed to give your life meaning and while I guess it's true for some, it doesn't click for me.
>>704527
Thanks, I'll look into it.

No. 722685

I think my customer service job is making me get bpd or some shit. I'm depressed when I have to go, elated when I leave, and on my off days I either stay in bed or am fuming almost to the point of picking fights just for an excuse to fight.

I don't think I can keep doing this, but I also don't want to quit because that would be going backwards on my progress. And parents believe "tHeReS nO gOiNg BaCk OnLy FoRwArD"

No. 722720

>>722685
Well, your parents aren’t wrong. The curse or “working for a living” painfully continues for the rest of your life, sadly.
Can you not change your job to something else? Maybe work at a cafe? Customer service jobs can be very draining if you hate every aspect of the job.

No. 723350

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Welfare is generous enough in this country that I can spend my day helping my family with their gardens, do a little cash work and lease out my spare bedrooms and still cover my mortgage and bills. It's actually unbelievable that I'm getting $1,600 a month plus another $1,200 from the bedrooms I lease out.

If I planned on having kids, I'd get back out and work (if I could). But there's realistically no reason for me to ever get a job again. Every year I'm making around $30,000 in capital on my house and interest rates are just going lower and lower (I'm paying 5.4% atm, but come October I'll be set around 2-3% and will have an extra $100 to play with a week).

I think the trick to NEETdom is to get rid of all screens. I took a crowbar to my computer after using it 14 hours a day during Covid and regressed back to a dumbphone. I'm doing 6-8 hours of tasks a day, but it's in the form of baking, landscaping, helping family and lockpicking (a hobby). The only hard spot is at nights where I'm a bit lonely and there's nothing to do.

It's specific to australia and New Zealand, pic related really helped me a lot. If you read through it and apply everything that's applicable to your life, you'd be able to live the same life as a minimum wage worker but with the freedom of NEETdom. Scrounging money and cashies is much more psychologically satisfying than working a menial job. Of course the ideal is to get a career, but if you've got psychological problems like me and you struggle to hold jobs (I was making $80,000 a year on oil and gas sites before severe mental illness made it so I couldn't hold a job for long) then NEETdom + no screens + hobbies + financial discipline is the way to go.

No. 723355

>>722685
My previous job made me feel exactly the same, it was horror, eventually I felt brave enough and went for a change and it was infinitely better. I hope you can find something else for yourself too, like >>722720 said, maybe not customer service related?

No. 723359

>>723350
Welfare is for poor people, you don't sound poor to me.

No. 723362

>>723350
>you'd be able to live the same life as a minimum wage worker but with the freedom of NEETdom.
*in aussieland
In my country welfare is $400+rent is autonatically paid that is not allowed to be over $500, any credit contracts are rejected and any extra money you make is being taken unless you get off welfare.

No. 723429

>>723350
>you'd be able to live the same life as a minimum wage worker but with the freedom of NEETdom
You're living a vastly different life than most welfare recipients by owning property.

No. 723432

>>723355
I'm looking but it's unlikely with rona right now. I want to ask for less hours but they keep putting me for lots because we lost 2 ppl recently. It's so uncomfy every week to ask for less.

No. 723435

>>723350
>killed all your black mirrors
>switch back to a non-smart phone
>owns a house
>posting on lolcow
huh

No. 723447

>>723435
That's what I noticed too lmao. Did you post this from the library or some shit, op?

No. 723586

>>723350

I hate grubby landlords who soak up all their tenants money like moldy kitchen sponges.

No. 728867

>>723447
Posting from the library yeah, I need to run an advert to get another renthog in so here I am.

>>723586
That's the way nature works. Rentpiggies and taxpiggies pay, NEETs and landlords relax.

No. 728868

i escaped NEET life by realizing my family would die one day and I couldn't rely on them anymore. so i forced myself to get a job so i wouldnt be even more of a fucking burden

No. 728888

>>728868
I was heading down the NEET route and then I got the news that my mom was dying..I realised that living alone with my dad would be fucking hell. That motivated me to get up and go be an adult.

A year later my mom was dead and my dad sold the house and moved to the absolute middle of nowhere. Glad I got out.

No. 728947

>>501391
Now I've been a NEET for 3 years. Current strategy is just applying to everything, from factory jobs to stocking to HR assistant roles. I haven't had a job for so long I think this year is going to be pivotal for me, I will either turn it around or start to rot

No. 731354

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What kind of job is best if you have chronic migraines and depression (pretending the pandemic isn't a barrier)
When I look this up it recommends things horrible for these conditions, like computer jobs (makes head worse) and ones where you are your own boss (unwise if you have depression)
I'm in online school but plagued by migraines I just wanted to stop being a NEET. I wish I simply didn't exist

No. 731411

>>731354
No job, sorry. Unless you consider s*x work work. Hope you can find the source of your migraines.

No. 731414

>>731411
Daaaamn thx. I actually was thinking earlier "if only I was a thot!" hahaha but no. It'll get better I hope…

No. 731417

>>731354
Art modeling at colleges, maybe? You get paid to change poses for a couple hours.

No. 731419

>>731417
that is something I never thought of, thank you for this creative idea. I will look into that as something for now

No. 731423

I was a NEET from March 2020 - September 2020. I was technically in school but I couldn't study online due to my ADHD and flunked all of my classes. I then found an underpaid internship and moved, but I got fired due to drama involving COVID.

Then by luck I found another position working in a school as a tutor. This is actually the perfect position for me because it's pretty easy and low stress. My boss doesn't really look over what I do and I have plenty of time during the day to surf the web or even browse lolcow. It still doesn't pay well but it's really chill and I get a scholarship if I finish my contract. I am pretty sure anyone here could work this job as long as they're ok with getting up early to show up on time and they don't mind working with kids.

My advice is you never know what you can find. The key to getting a job is just keep applying to stuff. The saying you make your own luck is partially true.

No. 731445

I dunno if a switch flipped in my brain or what, cause when I was just a few years younger I would call in to work and impulse quit frequently, and just be a jobless neet, but now I’ve been working nearly every day, have maintained one job for 2 yrs now and another for almost half a year, and very rarely have to call in. God bless me for easing off being a dumb bitch. Still a hermit, but being out of the house all the time makes me feel like a living being.



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