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No. 215642

The August Ames thread made me want to look more into the dark side of the porn industry. Post relevant articles, info, and your feelings on it.

Pic related. According to Linda Lovelace, her role in Deep Throat was forced on her by her abusive husband.

No. 215645

I guess I have mixed feelings about porn and sex work in general. Abuse and exploitation are standard and porn in particular has been proven to warp peoples' sexualities. But I do also have friends who do FSSW, amateur/indie porn, etc and for a lot of them, they don't have many other options. I hate the sex industry and especially porn but I feel so guilty speaking ill of it because it's how several of my friends pay the bills.

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No. 215655

>>215645
The fact that's one of the only options available to your friends is part of the problem. The vast majority of people who turn to sex work do it because they don't have any other realistic ways to make a decent income. It's really sad, but so many people are reliant on this work, just like this industry is reliant on people's desperation.

No. 215656

>>215655
Yeah, exactly. Like, where is the line drawn for whether or not something is coercion? If your options are do sex work or starve, that's not really consensual.

No. 215661

>>215650
Well, reading that certainly fueled my misandry.

No. 215665

http://news3lv.com/news/local/report-victim-assaulted-4-times-in-home-invasion-attack

https://downtrend.com/vsaxena/cytherea-raped-by-gang-of-teen-thugs

^inb4 someone calls me /pol/ for using that link. I'm using it because the other one doesn't mention Cy by name.

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No. 215843

I'm really curious about the rate of mental illness and past abuse among porn stars. It's not really a profession most mentally healthy people would go in. I know the super naive "but it's empowering!" crowd would stone me for saying that, but I highly doubt that people (especially women) who aren't highly fucked up or financially desperate aren't far in the minority. I've read it has one of the highest morality rates of any profession.

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No. 215850

>>215843
i vaguely remember reading an interview/blogpost (I don´t remember) of a former porn actress who claimed that it wasn't´t unusual for girls to have to stop in the middle of shooting because they got flashbacks/started acting weird due to prior abuse, usually from childhood. There are so. many. porn videos out there and so many girls do this kind of work and I doubt the majority of the girls truly enjoy what they do and I honestly believe many of them comes from broken homes. Again, sorry, I don´t have any sources

No. 215886

>>215844
I couldn't even read the whole thing, it was that fucking disturbing.

No. 215889

>>215844
couldn't finish this either, i feel like throwing up

No. 215890

>>215844
It's disturbing how people actually get off to fucked up porn like that

No. 215891

>>215844
I just scrolled through the pictures at rapid speed. What fucked up shit to do to another human being. I also really feel for the women who were forced/coerced into this. Can even imagine some of them feeling like this is the only way to get love/attention, which is just so wrong.

No. 215893

>>215656
>>215655
>>215645
i wish sex work wasn't so accepted by other women. i feel like we should have job placement programs available for women who have to resort to sex work, also thanks for this thread. i think sex work is bad but the people usually aren't.

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No. 215895

>>215893
Agreed. I know that it isn't "feminist enuff", but we should examine the reasons why women feel as though its their only option. You know, the factors leading up to that choice such as culture, family life, etc. People also seem to forget that human trafficking is alive and well and many women are sold into this via kidnappers or boyfriends.

No. 215899

>>215844
The one that gets me are the thumbnails of the mentally handicapped girls. Those videos have hundreds of thousands of views by men tuning in to watch and jeer at at them getting taken advantage of beyond their ability to comprehend what's really happening. Disgusting.

No. 215900

>>215844
My boyfriend once admitted that he likes amputee porn, rape rp porn and other shit like that. I did not think more about it. But now that I know that THIS is what he is watching, I am so fucking ready to break up with him. Fuck this, fuck him and fuck others that like this shit.

No. 215903

I hate how current feminism demands that I openly support women who do porn.
No, I don't believe porn is a boon for women even if there's kitschy empowerment slogans like "set your own hours," or "well at least it's easier than fast food."
I don't "slut shame" women because I think they're dirty for being open about sex, I do think it is shameful to participate in an industry that takes advantage of women, pays (relatively) shitty, perpetuates sexism and misogyny, and seeks to benefit only the top.

Ever seen fucked up porn websites like eFukt? The things on there are fucking disgusting.

No. 215904

>>215900
Get out. Seriously, that's disgusting.

My husband has a foot fetish, which is like super mild, but he doesn't watch porn (people try to convince me that he secretly does, but he really doesn't) and after reading some of these articles I'm very glad for it.

No. 215905

>>215904
he also admitted that he had fantasies of raping me and my friends. I should have known this earlier. It's just that I'm not one to thought police anyone. Was he like this, or did porn do this to me?

Oh and not to mention, I have another male friend that admitted to masturbating to murder photos taken by Matthias Schoormann. This is some fucked up shit, and the fact that millions of men watch this makes me afraid.

No. 215908

For those interested in a documentary about the porn industry. There's other parts to the series but this one really got to me.. To think guys are getting off on physical violence, torture scenarios, humiliation and degradation.. & like >>215844
pointed out. ffs that post was ugly. Something else to add is that some mgtows advocate using prostitutes, so not exactly leaving women alone. But I don't think they even see sex workers as people. 'Fuck meat' 'learning their place' ..seriously. Men get hard at abuse and feeling superior

>>215905
holy shit, anon, drop your bf & drop your male friend. Please. I'd be horrified

No. 215911

>>215905
girl. fucking run.

No. 215916

>>215903
Speaking of efukt, those videos of the guy bullying and abusing amateur porn stars are also great misandry fuel. Very upsetting… all those videos get millions of views too.

No. 215918

There was an incident (in Japan, unsurprisingly) where a porn company was making actual rape videos, and they still sell them to this day.

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No. 215925

>>215843
Most of the feminists saying that pornography is empowering are camgirls and tumblr sex workers. They get to film porn in their homes, safe and sound, whenever and where ever they want. The get to choose what they do to themselves, and when they start and stop. Porn stars, like Sasha Grey for example, they don’t get to choose. Producers and directors make that choice for them. Anyone that has had their bodily autonomy stripped from that don’t say it’s empowering.

No. 215927

>>215921

I'm mad I followed her other link and some of the top comments are like "lol why didn't you walk away"

No. 215928

>>215905
I had a friend with admit to me he fantasized about raping our friends, specifically the ones who had sex because the virgin friend was "too pure". I was disgusted but also felt I shouldn't be trying to police people's thoughts, but then he tried raping me after we kissed a few times. Be careful anon.

No. 215931

>>215925

i despise these kind of women. they don't recognize their privilege and treat anti-pornography discourse, even from former sex workers themselves, as personal attacks rather than an attempt to raise awareness of the brutality that less fortunate women are forced to suffer. huge difference between a woman working the streets and one who masturbates in their own home on film, yet still they insist that it's all empowering. it's these same women who see male violence in the news and say they should've just hired an escort to explore fantasies with, as if prostituted women are subhuman and abuse is okay as long as you get paid.

it also drives me up the fucking wall with these types encouraging others to try camming because it was profitable for them, with no consideration of the fact that this type of work has no longevity and is just a dead end job for most who do it, with the bonus factor of your name, face, and social security number (in the US anyway) tied to your porn identity for all future potential employers to find.

No. 215932

>>215928
Awful. Great example of how it isn't so easy for it to be "just a fantasy." He didn't have enough mental clarity to think, "this is all a fantasy, in real life rape is a horrible thing to do to anyone, but because this is a fantasy and not real any idea anyone is fair game." No, instead, he could bring himself to fantasize about hurting CERTAIN women, but not all, and on top of that created a philosophy to justify why some women deserve it but not others. A philosophy that could easily slip into the real world because he clearly isn't all that great and differentiating fantasy logic from real life logic.

No. 215933

>>215931
They just assume every woman can be like Jenna Jameson or Christy Mack.

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No. 215937

>>215844
I merely had to look at that opening pic and felt sad. Had to close it. It reminds me of this deep web legend many years ago.
https://www.reddit.com/r/deepweb/comments/3i22c3/the_deep_web_human_dolls_real/
I kind of doubt it's real or it's possibly just some creepy pasta trash, but the images in that blog show there's real people out there with fetishes like this.

No. 215940

>>215937
The deep web is one part larpers, one part honeypots.

No. 215942

>>215928
holy shit. I am so sorry that this happened to you. I really hope that you dropped him!
I can relate to you about what you said about purity. He said that he liked me because I was pure, unlike the other girls (which is fucking stupid). But the moment he looked at me as dirty he admitted what he truly wants to do.

He has also tried to do things with me that I didn't want to do, to the point where I was briused ALL over my body and full of hickies in places which were easy to see. He also touched me when I was so exhausted that I could not move.

They think that just because they can search up on the internet to see women who supposedly consent and like what they do on camera, it means that we as their gf's/friends want them to do this.

>>215931 >>215925
>Most of the feminists saying that pornography is empowering are camgirls and tumblr sex workers.
>they don't recognize their privilege
Exactly. They don't seem to understand that their *~uwu pls abuse me daddy~* fetish really harms women and especially young girls. They can continue to call me a slut-shamer. So be it.

No. 215944

>>215843
I'm a granny. This is all anecdotal, so you can believe or not as you like. I have friends who worked in the 'Golden Age of Porn' from the seventies and early eighties, both as talent and crew. They don't talk much about their careers in porn at parties or in mixed company, but I know that back then they truly felt as though they were part of something new and what we would call 'sex positive' today. Then the mafia got involved, and suitcase pimps, and the idea that this was going to be some kind of utopia went away quickly.

A lot of the women who starred in features that I know are addicts in recovery, women who had been raped or molested as kids and teens, girls who started because their boyfriends had already pimped them out. There were some swingers in there who liked it, sure, but sadly the old stereotype holds true in many cases. The guys were generally freaks who weren't averse to doing live sex shows at Show World in between scenes; they were often gay for pay. One of the guys who I never saw in a gay scene and who's said repeatedly that he'd never done gay scenes is Eric Edwards. But that's one guy out of a ton of guys. John Holmes, Jamie Gilles, Rocco Siffredi, all of them were gay for pay.

Oddly, none of the people I know personally believe that Linda Lovelace was truly abused. I think it's because she had done some things in the past that made a lot of her co-stars think she couldn't be raped? Not saying that's right or wrong, just telling what they think. This has to do with a number of dog fucking loops that she'd made before Deep Throat. I think it also has to do with the fact that awareness of, and knowledge regarding how people react to trauma has changed. Although most of the women I know still work in the industry, they either do costuming or hair and makeup, or they produce. Looking back, I don't think any of them are particularly thrilled about having done it. I know Vanessa Del Rio enjoyed it. Nina Hartley too. She was a swinger. I'm sure there were others, but I don't know them personally.

All the big name companies (Zane, Evil Angel) are still mafia money. A lot of the women likely don't speak out because of this fact.

One thing they'll all say, to the last, is that people in Hollywood have to prostitute themselves to get their foot in the door, and the porn business didn't work that way. I'm talking about forty years ago. Now I think it's probably as bad as Hollywood.

If anyone is interested in hearing stories from these women in their own words, a good place to start is with a podcast called the Rialto Report. I forget the address, but it's easily googled.

No. 215949

>>215844
Oh my god…that article seriously made me paranoid. As someone who is currently studying in a 80-90% male dominated field (computer science), it honestly makes me paranoid to think that there could be someone in one of my classes or at my work who thinks that way of women…makes me remember this one dude who I'm pretty sure is an incel and was hitting on me as he thought I was "special"…and when I didn't return his feelings got pissed

No. 215951

>>215949
There almost certainly is :/ I feel like it's way worse with CS dudes, honestly.

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>>215844
This was horrible but interesting to read
But it also made me angry, goddammit

No. 215976

>>215931
I get the impression a lot of cam girls encouraging non cam girls to do sex work is just an attempt to drag others down with them. I know it seems like a simple explanation but a lot of these girls are miserable deep down and they want someone else to be miserable with. They hate seeing women who are genuinely successful, with jobs and husbands who aren't essentially pimps because it reminds them of what they feel they'll never have.

Know it sounds harsh but that envy and misery loves company, to me, is a big part of the sexposi movement.

No. 215977

>>215928
I went on a few dates with a Chinese guy back in college who said something similar. Except he framed it in terms of white women being "more sexual" than asian women, and therefore he wanted to do more things with us that he couldn't see himself doing with an Asian woman.

Obviously when I quizzed him on it it turned out a lot of these ideas came from porn.

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>>215977
>went on a few dates with a Chinese guy back in college who said something similar. Except he framed it in terms of white women being "more sexual" than asian women

That shit is a giant red flag, people who genuinely believe this need to be put down or something jfc
It's funny when you hear that shit, because I usually hear the opposite ; that asian women are more submissive or whatever and american/white women think they're too good for men etcc.. you've heard it all before

No. 215989

https://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/バッキー事件

"The company is known as Bakky Visual and from 2004 to 2007 “Bakki Visual Planning” published a series of 17 pornographic movies in which they filmed encounters in which porn stars and amateur performers were only told they were to be appearing in a normal gravure or pornographic movie.

In fact they were dragged off and gang raped by the studio’s staff (and friends/relatives of staff), all of which was filmed and sold openly online.

Victims were variously drugged and forced to drink themselves into unconsciousness, and confined, beaten and subjected to various forms of torture (including one scene where a victim is almost thrown off a building), which in one case led to a potentially fatal rectal injury.

The producers apparently managed to cow their victims into believing they had signed a contract which made all this legal, and it was only when filming of the 17th and final movie collapsed with their victim managing to call police in to rescue her that authorities bothered to investigate.

After the usual scandal, police eventually brought a case against the company which saw most of the unrepentant perpetrators handed rape sentences ranging from 18 years in the case of the CEO to suspended sentences in the case of some of the performers whose only crime was to rape a porn star.

Although the company responsible has stopped selling the videos, it is still doing business under a different name. Several of the men who escaped charges continue to appear in pornographic films."

This makes me physically sick.

No. 216000

>>215989
Why does Japan have one of the most fucked up porn scenes?

Is it the sexual repression in their society? Then again, Western countries (especially the US) are a lot more open and still manage fucked up things. Talking off the top of my head.

No. 216005

>>216000
america is more openly sexual, but not about sex. america is one of the least open about sex countries i've experienced. they don't teach safe sex very well to their teens, they don't teach masturbation techniques so people don't injure themselves. ffs they circumcise nearly everyone so guys have to learn how to masturbate unnaturally on their own. girls don't even know what intact penises look like. hell, most girls don't even know what their own vaginas are supposed to look like. it's taboo to talk about actual sex or relations yet everyone and everything is sexualized to hell.

No. 216006

>>216000
Because men are shit in Japan and men are shit in western countries too. They’re all chasing dollar signs and demands. If there wasn’t a lucrative market for this shit, it wouldn’t be successful or produced.

>>215951
Yes! In CS, can agree. You’ll find those fucks in this field. The ones where you have to think whether or not they see you as an equal (probably not) and secretly hate you for being a woman. God forbid you do something well that bruises their egos too. They’d just it out on some violent porn.

No. 216007

>>215903
Agreed.

No. 216009

>>215982
Loser men always think women of another race or nationality are ______(insert the opposite of what they complain about with their own women or women they’ve had bad experiences with).

No. 216010

>>215944
Interesting, thanks for sharing

No. 216014

>>215905
Why did he even tell you that? I mean, in a way it could mean that he really trusts you and he sees these fantasies as separate from who he is, and therefore sees no problem in talking about it. On the other hand it could also mean that he does not understand why this is a big deal or why a woman might be horrified to hear that, in which case he has no empathy for women even outside of his fantasies.

Personally, I would run like the wind.
Keep us updated, will you?

No. 216020

>>215890
The fucked up thing about it is the normalization. I've had a disturbing number of men act like women were overreacting by being disturbed by hyper aggressive porn and say that pretty much every guy gets off to it. It makes me thankful that the only thing I ever see on my husband's computer is girls giving normal blowjobs.

>>215893
I feel like a lot of feminists falsely equate being against sex work with shaming sex workers. A lot of them also see it as simply getting paid for sex, which is beyond ignorant.

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No. 216045

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>>216042
>the comments

No. 216046

>>216045
Yup. Trashbins gonna trash.

No. 216054

>>216041
That thumbnail alone.. 'meatholes.com' Yikes. I know there are those who get off on crying and seeing tears. Shit is fucked.

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>>216041
>meatholes.com

No. 216070

>>216065
Honestly the ott language they use almost makes it seem like deep down they know women are human subjects as well as the objects of their gaze but are trying to convince themselves we aren't out of fear. If they felt secure in the idea that women are less than human, why not just use the word women? Why use a ridiculous term? You rarely see the average meat eater calling cows "nothing but burger material." It's insistent, defensive, adamant.

Who knows what's really going on in the minds of psychopaths like this though. It's just an idea.

No. 216072

>>216070
I watched the videos, and it's really distressing. The guy is an absolute psychopath and needs to get his dick chopped off.

No. 216091

>>216000
Japan has always been fucked up like how they treated women in places they invaded (like the Raping of Nanking) and the prisoners in Unit 731.
And the murder of Junko Furuta is one of the worst murder cases I've ever heard, especially since nobody did nothing like the parents of the abusers (although Wikipedia has since taken down some gruesome details from their article due to complaints)
So I'm not surprised they're still fucked up today and have even gotten worse.

No. 216093

>>216091
The Furuta case is straight out of Hell nightmare fuel. The perpetrators hardly paid the time. Plus you have Issei Sagawa, the cannibal who killed and ate a Dutch women back in the early 80s. He became a small celebrity after he was released from prison. Then women-only trains to combat the rampant sexual assault on overcrowded trains since you're suppose to keep everything to yourself and unsurprisingly, there's a demand for porn of it.

Yeah Japan has a lot of issues with women. Yet, so many 'rational', 'logical' men idolize it as the model country for social order.

No. 216094

>>216091
I saw a hentai manga about Junko Furuta. Didn't even know who she was or that it was real, just thought it was fucked up guro shit. Later I found out that it had really happened and the guy had the nerve to drawn porn of it. Fucking disgusting

No. 216095

>>216091
>Japan has always been fucked up like how they treated women in places they invaded (like the Raping of Nanking) and the prisoners in Unit 731.
I mean I'm not disagreeing with what you're saying but Unit 731 is more of a good example of how they were able to dehumanize others in general rather than it being a gendered thing. I don't think they viewed anyone in those experiments as human.

>"Infection of venereal disease by injection was abandoned, and the researchers started forcing the prisoners into sexual acts with each other. Four or five unit members, dressed in white laboratory clothing completely covering the body with only eyes and mouth visible, handled the tests. A male and female, one infected with syphilis, would be brought together in a cell and forced into sex with each other. It was made clear that anyone resisting would be shot."[31]


They also did shit like tie people to stakes and test weapons on them or freeze specific body parts and then bludgeon it to see what would happen.

No. 216102

>>216094
are you fucking serious?? what a disgusting perverted piece of shit, making hentai out of a fucking a brutally abused and murdered teenager. if i remember right. the men that did it walked away with almost no punishment.

No. 216103

>>216102
The piece of shit is even mentioned on Wikipedia page, along with an exploitation film based on the case. Disgusting.
The girl went through hell on Earth, got horrifically tortured and murdered. To think somme fucks are faping to it. Disgusting. I hope they all rot.

No. 216105

The comments will piss you off.

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No. 216126

>>216103

-Raped her over 400 times. They also invited and encouraged their friends to humiliate and gang rape her.
-Starved her.
-Beat her several times with golf clubs, bamboo sticks and iron rods.
-Used as a "punching bag" by hanging her body from the ceiling.
-Dropped barbells onto her stomach several times.
-Forced her to eat live cockroaches and drink her own urine.
-Forced her to masturbate in front of them.
-Inserted foreign objects, such as iron bars, scissors and skewers into her vagina and anus, rendering her unable to defecate and urinate properly.
-Shoved a still-lit light bulb into her vagina.
-Set fireworks into her anus, vagina, mouth and ears.
-Burnt her vagina and clitoris with cigarettes and lighters.
-Burnt her eyelids with hot wax and lighters
-Tore off her left nipple with pliers.
-Pierced her breasts with sewing needles.

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In other news, that girl from slaughtered vomit dolls was found murdered in a hotel a couple months back.

https://www.straight.com/news/959941/charges-laid-murders-brandy-petrie-and-avery-levely-flescher-langley

No. 216131

>>216126
jesus, I hoped I could forget the exact details of the torture and now you reminded. I literally wanna keel over and vomit. I cannot comprehend how anyone could do this to another human being and enjoy reducing them to a creature only able to suffer and beg for death. It would be horrible enough if it was a work of one man, but there were more people enjoying torture of a helpless girl. I literally want to kill myself just so that I don't have to share the Earth with people like this (and so that I won't fall victim to them). I'm so horrified and disgusted all over again. I can't stop imagining how terrified she was and how much pain she went through and my mind hurts all over.

No. 216138

>>216126
Stuff like this is why I will always defend the existence of capital punishment.

No. 216141

>>216138
Funny you'd mention that: Japan has the death penalty. Didn't change a fucking thing for her.

No. 216145

>>216141
>In July 1990, a lower court sentenced Hiroshi Miyano (now Hiroshi Yokoyama), the alleged leader of the crime, to 17 years in prison.[4][1] He appealed his sentence, but Tokyo High Court judge Ryūji Yanase sentenced him to an additional 3 years in prison. The 20 year sentence he received is the second highest possible sentence after life imprisonment.[4][1]

Everything about this trial infuriates me. Also a good example of why Punisher is one of my guilty pleasures. I don't get how being a juvenille is a binary thing, that if you were just a year older you'd go from 20 years in prison to being put down.

No. 216160

>>216126
And then the Japanese media didn't want to release their identities because they were minors, and iirc all of them got new identities and are free today.

No. 216161

>>216160
>>216145
i thought it was because they had 'yakuza ties' as well.?

No. 216164

>>216161
That could be. Regardless the main perpetrators each spent like eight years in prison, and she was said to be raped by over 100 other randos who were never found.

Not to leak too much out of the manhate thread but I don't believe any woman would treat another human being this way, let alone the hundred some who treated this poor woman like literal garbage.

No. 216167

>>216091
the junko furuta torture/murder is beyond monstrous, how can anyone let alone 100 people do that to a person, literally a 17 year old girl, or be aware of it and not care? and the sentences the main 4 got are laughable, all should be locked up for life.
i hope i am not insensitive but i think junko's death in part is a blessing for i can't imagine carrying on after all what was done to her.

No. 216205

>>216164
A female wouldn't. This type of behavior has been nearly exclusive to males all over the animal kingdom since the dawn of time, and humans are no exception. "Boys will be boys." It's not just societal influence or curiosity that makes them want to do this shit, it's in their nature.

No. 216220

The story of Junko makes me understand why so many people take comfort in thinking there's a Hell.

Isn't it amazing the difference between the genders in why they have issues with each other?

>women: men commit heinous sexually motivated crimes and a disturbing portion of the ones who don't are aroused by them, not to mention how heavily they've oppressed us throughout human history


>men: women won't have sex with me


>>216167
That's not insensitive at all, it's true. Who knows how long they would have kept her there, they probably had no intention of letting her leave.

>>216205
>>216164
I could count on my fingers the number of stories like this involving women that I've read and none of them go as far.

No. 216221

>>216110
lol but men in porn deserve respect?

That's one of the most extreme examples of misogynistic double standard I have ever seen.

No. 216226

>>216221
Men in porn are almost always worse than women in porn. The men are disgusting perverts and pigs.

No. 216228

I feel like the asshole carrying on about how August Ames is such a joke in that thread needs to sit down and watch every single one of these videos and then shut up permanently. This is the most depressing thread on the site.

These women have no recourse to any kind of protection. They are always, always being coerced. Personally I'm glad she called out the performer she was scheduled to work with. The hateful response she got from all the actors on Twitter is more than enough proof for me that these pigs don't care about women. The way women responded to that incident was even more upsetting, though. Parroting abusive men. Just no thanks.

No. 216230

>>216228
All the abuse in the porn industry and it was one gay porn guy who crossed the line? (Btw, it was a guy who hadn't done gay porn in about 10 years) lmao

The girl didn't kill herself because of the gay mafia, she killed herself because she was an impulsive nutcase.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 216231

>>216230

Oh my god, you are seriously mentally ill. Please walk away. What are you doing? Sitting around waiting for someone to post about it so you can pounce? You're sick in the head. You're also a gross misogynist, so I don't feel sorry for you at all, but you need help. Please get it.

No. 216233

>>216230

lol not this headcase again. Go protect the gay menz someplace else, this isn't the place for it. You're certifiable; chances are you already know that tho. Can't wait for you to start the inevitable greentexting and frothing.

No. 216235

>>216233
i hate when people like >>216230 ignore statistics and science cause 'feels' etc.

>weh weh the truth is meaaaan

No. 216236

>>216230
I'm sorry but I don't see how your comment has anything to do with what that anon said. August Ames was treated badly by a group of men who have much more power than she did, as is the nature of the industry she worked in, and as evidenced by the dogpile that subsequently took place.

Who's talking about gay men, or when they shot last, or why she killed herself? Why are you talking about it?

You seem to have a lot of anger about this and you seem a little too emotionally invested. I can't imagine why it's important for you to let us know that you're lmao over someone killing themselves but to each their own.

No. 216237

>>216228
>>216231
>>216233
>this isn't the place for it
This also isn't the place to be defending August's Tweets. She has her own thread, anon. Don't bring that shitstorm in here.

>>216230
Don't even bother. Trust me, I was in that thread, they're just going to call you a misogynist and rape enabler for acknowledging what was wrong with those Tweets. The best thing to do is ignore them and report them for being OT if they start shitting up the thread more than they already have.

No. 216241

>>216237

You're a pathological samefag. Stop talking to yourself. It's creepy.

I think the trouble with pornography in general is that it fosters this idea that chicks love pain. I can look at porn that's twenty years old, but what the fuck is up with all the spitting and slapping and choking and speculums and…it's so ott and out of hand that you can't believe guys would think that women were interested in this shit for real, but there you have it. Then you get incels watching it and fapping, and believing that this is how all women are. It's scary, especially when you know you're sitting next to more than a few incels in class every day; and you get the sex posi tweens on tumblr looking at it and thinking that this is what a healthy sex life looks like. I've seen more vile shit reblogged on tumblr than anywhere else. There was a user mentioned in a thread on /snow who posted tons of super violent porn .gifs, along with her 'boyfriend' punching her in the temple repeatedly and then telling her how beautiful she was.

It's so insidious.

>>216042
I don't know who this girl is but I really liked what she had to say about everything. I'm glad she got out. I just hope her new bf isn't a closet pimp. I'd be so wary of dudes after porn, period.

No. 216243

>>216241
Right, I must be samefagging because I share an option with someone who disagrees with you.

Seriously, though, please get the fuck out.

No. 216244

>>216221
James Deen is such a pig. He doesn't even have the brain cells to make the connection.

Meanwhile little girls think he's so cute! Brb, vomiting.

No. 216248

>>216244
I wonder how many men become porn stars for the sake of abusing women legally. I know some are probably doing it because they're desperate, but I'm sure a lot do it for the sake of getting to live their fantasies.

No. 216249

>>216244
Also, haven't multiple porn stars said he raped them? With quotes like that I'm not surprised.

No. 216250

>>216249
I know that after Stoya came out against him, at least three? maybe more? girls said he'd raped them or disregarded their safe words. He's got a (deservedly) bad reputation.

No. 216252

>>216241
I think the violence of porn is what's so scary. It was always there, but it feels like it's gotten so much worse in the past ten years or something. Like it sped up. Maybe I wasn't aware of it, but it's like they don't even try to hide it anymore. It's nonstop and it's not even sexual. It's just verbal and physical abuse.

I know the user you're talking about on tumblr, her name was like Godzilla–it wasn't Godzilla but something zilla–but I think she broke up with that guy. She seems to be mentally ill. I feel bad for her. So many of these people seem trapped, whether it's by mental illness or economics or whatever. Can you imagine that being your life and no way out? Ugh.

No. 216254

>>216250
Yeah, I'm reading about it now and he's had multiple women come forward claiming he's been abusive to them on some scale or another. Several porn companies have even cut ties with him over it. Says a lot when you're too sleezy for porn producers.

No. 216255

>>216253
It's pretty disturbing how many people don't think that pornstars deserve basic human decency. It all centers back to this idea that the more promiscuous a woman is, the less respect she deserves.

No. 216257

I don't have an issue with porn on a moral level, I don't see an issue with selling sex. However the issue I have with the porn industry is all the abuse and uncertainty, most of the things I wanted to link/discuss have already been brought up so I won't touch on that, however I remember reading about facialabuse.com, and how basically the go after mostly unknown girls who are desperate for money and basically bully them into it once they're there, they apparently advertise on craigslist as just a regular boy/girl scene.

Not sure how reliable this source is, but it would not surprise me if it were true, those videos give me the chills. I found out about them due to them being posted on efukt and being presented as funny, but it was literally like watching someone being raped it made me feel sick. http://www.antipornography.org/facial-abuse-com-truth-of-real-abuse-exploitation.html

No. 216258

>>216228

I mean, I think that they are always in a state of coercion. Most porn stars readily admit to there being alcohol present, and the really honest ones will say there was coke or meth. How can you even enter into a contract when you're impaired to that degree? It's like they turn a blind eye. And then you have the fact that men are the ones in control. The men, straight or gay, I don't really care, are pieces of human garbage. So the whole thing from beginning to end is just sick.

No. 216259

>>216252
One incredibly fucked up thing about porn is that you get desensitized to it and need to watch more hardcore stuff to get off, even if you're not into it. Like, most people get to a point where watching people fuck doesn't do it for them anymore, so they watch more intense ones until they gradually end up watching shit like Japanese girls pushing octopuses out of their vaginas while another girl vomits on them. Literal example, that's a thing I saw once.

No. 216260

>>216243

Can you please not? It's honestly not funny to be having a discussion about abuse towards women in the porn industry and have you derail it by…being abusive. You have your thread, you're right. Please stay there. Not trying to backseat mod just saying you're right, the AA thread is the place for you.

No. 216261

>>216259
I'm glad I'm not a regular viewer, then. The girl who presented that talk linked to above, sorry I'm being lazy, but a woman in the video said that at uni, they don't even bother to do studies about the harm porn does because it's too dangerous to expose men to it to begin with. That's a damning statement if I ever heard one.

No. 216263

>>216261
Sorry. Not that they don't bother, but that the ethics committees won't allow them because the correlation is there.

Still. Too dangerous to expose men to it. It really scares me.

No. 216264

Another thing not commonly discussed about porn is the effect it has on the way women who watch it view sex. Women who watch it often are less likely to take rape as seriously and are more susceptible to being abused or dismissing a friend's abuse as a non-issue. They're also more likely to engage in sexual activity out of feeling obligated and objectify the fuck out of themselves (I myself used to do this and am so grateful it didn't end nearly as badly as it could have).

No. 216265

>>216261
>>216263
this happens with tons of thing in the medical community. there are tons of harmful things that are done on a regular basis medically that we don't do studies on because the studies are dangerous or inhumane. same with psychological community. but we still keep allowing things to be done the same way, we still allow fucked up things to happen and exist with complete disregard at how people are affected because finding out the real issues is 'too dangerous. it makes me sick.

No. 216266

>>216248
There was a performer in the nineties named TT Boy who definitely got into it so that he could abuse women. More recently, wasn't there that MMA fighter, name was War Machine or something like that? He got into porn and talked about raping his girlfriend constantly, then beat the hell out of her.

>>216264
It kind of makes sense. Most of these girls are already coming from damaged homes, histories of abuse, so they're primed, so to speak. I can see how viewing porn constantly would have the same dehumanizing effect on women, let alone act in it. It's a miracle that any of these women ever leave.

The octopus thing sounds like Mr. Genki Genki, Daikichi Amano. He's definitely got a few screws loose but he's also been heralded as a great artist by some heavy hitters in the art world. He uses tons of octopus, eels, roaches, even goldfish.

No. 216268

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No. 216269

>>216257
Facial Abuse was a guy in SoCal named Khan Tusion, it's a bruise, get it? Really funny! He was a very secretive character, you never saw his face but you heard him talking to the girls, and he disappeared from the scene when it became clear he was being eyed by the feds. Sort of like Max Hardcore, who was someone I had to serve at a restaurant once and was so grossed out the entire time. He had this ana chick with him who was wearing basically nothing and he was looking around to see if anyone was like, impressed or something. He talked to her like she was some kind of idiot moron and she sounded high as a kite. It was only later that I realized I should have spit in his food. He would probably have gotten off on it though. Sick fuck.

No. 216271

>>216260
>it's abusive to tell someone to gtfo for derailing the thread and insulting someone that doesn't agree with them with ableist language in multiple posts
NTA, but I've never seen anyone so butthurt over being told to stop being OT

No. 216273

>>216271
I donno, I'm nta either and I agree with them. Stop tossing bait around. Your dopamine must be through the roof rn. Enjoy.

>>216268
Ghetto Gaggers? What is this world we live in, for real.

No. 216274

>>216266
The octopus example I was referring to was a real life porno, not a hentai.

And oh god, I remember the thing with War Machine, it was so disgusting. So many awful pieces of shit were saying it was the girl's fault because she cheated on him (which wasn't even true, not that she would deserve it if she was) and saying who cares because she's a porn star.

No. 216275

>>216266
The octopus example I was referring to was a real life porno, not a hentai.

And oh god, I remember the thing with War Machine, it was so disgusting. So many awful pieces of shit were saying it was the girl's fault because she cheated on him (which wasn't even true, not that she would deserve it if she was) and saying who cares because she's a porn star.

No. 216276

>>216271
your threadcopping is annoying, where are you on the spectrum

No. 216278

>>216276
Wow, anon, calling someone autistic when it doesn't even make sense is so funny and totally hasn't been the most overused meme on image boards for years or anything.(chill)

No. 216280

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>>216286
Samefagging to post more

Some more links to books and stuff
http://www.feminist-reprise.org/fembib.html#pron

Article about Deep Throat, the porno in the OP
https://www.popsugar.com/entertainment/Linda-Lovelace-Real-Story-31094586/amp

And some links about Playboy:

About required sex, forced diets, and more
http://www.lifeandstylemag.com/posts/former-playboy-resident-jennifer-saginor-talks-rampant-drug-use-required-sex-and-forced-dieting-61546

Poor living conditions in the mansion
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1342643/Hugh-Hefners-Playboy-mansion-like-squalid-prison-say-Playmates.html

Promoting pedophilia
http://www.renegadetribune.com/flashback-1978-playboy-promotes-pedophilia/

Author of “The Child Pornography Myth,” an article featured in Playboy, arrested for CP
http://theothermccain.com/about/2002-lawrence-stanley-arrested/

Playboy featured photos of Brooke Shields painted sexually
https://nytimes.com/2010/12/07/arts/design/07gross.html?mcubz=0&referer=

"Playboy depicted Santa Claus - a 'child magnet' according to advertisers - 329 times. In 170 of those cases, sexual activity was involved, including 91 instances associated with adultery or with an orgy. Nine times, Santa was shown as a participant or observer in minor sex. In four cases, Santa was shown having sex with animals."
https://www.redandblack.com/opinion/the-dirty-little-secret-of-soft-core-porn/article_0dbc55bc-8253-5ea7-b12d-2ec64350dc3c.html

About Holly Madison's book
http://www.cosmopolitan.com/entertainment/books/news/a42332/holly-madison-book-worst-things-about-hugh-hefner/
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3589127/Missing-condoms-bathroom-blunders-gifts-GOLD-PLATED-Playboy-jewelry-Hugh-Hefner-Holly-Madison-tells-worst-moments-men.html

More here, including Hefner's beastiality fetish, rape, etc.
https://demonista.wordpress.com/2008/11/24/playboy-50-years-of-misogyny/

I'll stop now, I feel like I'm being annoying

No. 216281

>>216264
>>216264
This is a point a lot of people ITT are ignoring.

For whatever reason I notice lots and lots of girls, especially young girls, especially on places like 4chan and in social environments focused on geeky hobbies in general, are heavily into violent sex, being abused, being hurt, being degraded etc.

No. 216282

>>216280
No, no, links are good. It's better than the samefags fighting in here.

I was wrong about Khan Tusion. He wasn't Facial Abuse, he was Meatholes, Pissmops, and Rough Sex. He was also loathed by Max Hardcore, if you can believe it. Even that asshole thought this dude was a scumbag. When a scumbag thinks another scumbag is bad, they're bad. I also did some digging and it looks like he wasn't able to stay anon for long. His name is Mark Handel, his brother was a right wing talk radio dude; why am I not surprised? and he made lots and lots of money in SoCal as the CEO of a real estate company. This was his side gig. He freely admitted to hating women because they wouldn't fuck him. From pissmops and meat holes, he moved on to choking. Total incel.

If you're familiar with Oriana Small she talks about a scene she did with this loser in her book Girlvert, and she's also done tons of readings of the pertinent bits. Sometimes they project the scene as she's reading, I didn't check this one so it may not be for the faint of heart either way you look at it. Sorry but I don't know how to embed Vimeo and I'm exhausted, here.

https://vimeo.com/28028509


You can understand my confusion regarding what wonderful art this douchetruck created, I hope, because all those things are fucking disgusting and they're all the same.

No. 216284

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>>216274

The octopus thing I watched was irl too, I should have made that more clear. This was one of the less nasty images.

No. 216294

>>216281
It's hard to attribute all of that to porn, though. Sometimes I think it's just the way men are in general. The idea that porn is the only common denominator that makes men abusive, I'm not sure. I think it's hard wired for some men to be assholes, and porn consumption can make it worse but lbh a lot of them are pretty bad to begin with.

No. 216295

>>216230
Thanks, admins.

No. 216304

>>216281
>>216294

I'm worried that people who are just masochistic or into rough, primal sex are being co-opted by porn and bdsm/kink culture to think that means the next step is being ok with being completely humiliated and degraded and put into unsafe situations. In my opinion some amount of masochism or even sadism is pretty ancient and common and doens't need to have any specific connotations to it, but it's a way for hatred and abuse to get its foot in the door and convince women that if they like a little aggression and roughness it must mean they want to be degraded and dehumanized.

No. 216338

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>>215844
The wheelchair and amputee fetish is the complete opposite of hating women.

It's because the guy wants to have a girl who is dependent on him for a lot, and the guy wants to feel appreciated and wanted. Also the girl is highly unlikely to cheat, and more likely to be feminine.

This is why tons of guys would love to have a wheelchair-bound girlfriend, but still able to have sex.

There is no downside to either party, the wheelchair girl gets a boyfriend/husband who can carry her around, and do stuff for her that would be hard while disabled, and the guy gets an appreciative girlfriend/wife.

Basically only advantages over dating normal women, and normal women know this so they get all bitter and jealous about it, call him a "creep" because they're jealous. They're masculine feminists who don't need no man, but won't stop complaining when men don't like that.

No. 216339

>>216338
>anime picture

No. 216342

>>216304
ayrt, and I agree. There's this pervasive feeling that the focus on gonzo (why is there even a euphemism for it, just call it rape porn) is the new baseline, and so people who are coming into an S&M scene or kink will think that these really extreme behaviors are somehow the norm, thereby upping the ante for doms and subs at an entry level. Or maybe I'm reading you wrong?

No. 216351

>>216338
lol no

>It's because the guy wants to have a girl who is dependent on him for a lot, and the guy wants to feel appreciated and wanted. Also the girl is highly unlikely to cheat, and more likely to be feminine.


insane loveshy go home plz

No. 216352

>>216338
Yeah but this is in porn. It's sexualizing it and still gives a man a power-high because of how she has to depend on him so it's still a control thing. It's hardly romantic when I'm sure some men get off on it because she's unable to run away or that it's because she's wheelchair bound or missing a limb that he feels no other man will want her. Kind of like how manipulating men like broken girls to control.
This ain't no heartwarming cheesy romance flick of a guy who loves his handicap gf, it's a fucking porno of a guy fucking a handicap girl for the tabboo of it.
If I was a handicap girl, I certainly wouldn't date a man who has watched a ton of handicap/wheelchair/amputated porn because it could mean he only now wants to recreate that sick fetish out of me.

No. 216357

>>216338
Men are fucking insane lmao.

No. 216358

>>216352
You're just demonizing men's sexuality.

You claim to stand for equality but you don't.

No. 216360

>>216358
Oh my god is this the same person who claimed demonization of poor porn industry in the other thread?

You are crazy and you're clearly a male which is not allowed.

No. 216363

>>216358
And how is that exactly?
I'm just pointing out the possibility that a man will date a handicap girl for the wrong reasons. It could easily turn into an unhealthy relationship.
If standing up for girls to keep them from creeps and pervs is unequal than so be it.

No. 216367

I'm sorry but this is like the biggest joke. Because of course the incel comes to the porn thread to defend his gross behaviors. 'Demonization of men'? No honey, no. You're the one who wants a captive love slave as a girlfriend, you sick fuck. Dudes are not welcome here so please go away, none of us are interested in your desires or your psychoses.

No. 216368

>>216358
Where did anyone in this thread say they were for equality? Maybe you need to learn how to read.

No. 216370

>>216358
Why would we even bother demonizing men dude, you guys do most of the work on your own just by speaking.

No. 216395

>>216338
No, retard. It's because he wants to take advantage of a girl who couldn't defend herself even if she wanted to.

No. 216411

>>216358
Found the guy who is into the sick shit in the link posted here >>215844

Men who are into women who literally cannot defend themselves are into it because they cannot imagine a woman who can run from them not running from them.

But yes, wheelchair-bound amputee ana rape porn, so dreamy.

No. 216440

>>216358
We don't have to demonize shit, you are demonic enough without our input.

No. 216446

>>216411
>Men who are into women who literally cannot defend themselves are into it because they cannot imagine a woman who can run from them not running from them.
They're exactly like grade school-tier bullies, except bigger and jacked up on testerone with their dicks in their hands. They love to pick on the defenseless like pack animals.

No. 216504

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>>216268
>>216280
>>216282

That last one was so disturbing
I'm angry for not realizing this shit sooner

No. 216523

>>215903
This. I don't shame women who end up working in the sex industry, but I believe they should get help. I've seen so many women working as sex workers claim that they "do it because they want to" and that they "love their job" and at the same time vent about their psychological issues and how exhausting it is. Usually the most naive supporters aren't even sex workers but fantasize about becoming one as they believe it's easy money and the current wave of feminism pushes the narrative that it's about controlling men. No, it's about PLEASING men. And demeaning yourself. You're better than that. Fast food may not be as ~glamorous~ and it doesn't pay that well, but you can always aim higher.

>>215934
I'm glad such a big name in the industry called this cunt of a man out. It's disgusting how Jaxton tried to defend himself by basically saying "I told her to kill herself after she had already committed suicide so you can't blame me!", like how the fuck do you have the gall to say that?

>>216338
>It's because the guy wants to have a girl who is dependent on him for a lot, and the guy wants to feel appreciated and wanted. Also the girl is highly unlikely to cheat, and more likely to be feminine.
bruh that's pretty much all about hating or at least despising women and thinking they're lower forms of life

No. 216525

>>216266
War machine tried to beat the life out of Christy Mack because she broke up with him and moved on, and he couldn't handle it. He was also abusive towards her because she had sex with other men as her job, even though he was in the same business doing the same thing. Really shows you the entitlement these men have.

He tried to rape her but couldn't get hard, so he tried to kill her instead. Broke several of her bones and her teeth, and she has to get reconstructive surgery.

Thank god he god life, because if he could get out of prison I have no doubts that he would kill her.

No. 216532

I'm curious how some of you feel about porn stars that publish their own work. For instance as I understand Angela White and others like her have the final say as to everything that goes up on her own website so if the guy doesn't meet her standards or she just plain doesn't feel comfortable with it, it's a no go. I understand the criticisms about stuff like human trafficking and I figure this would circumvent all of that.

No. 216537

>>216167
>>216205
>>216220

Sorry to rain on your parade, but there was at least one girl who joined in the torture of Junko. She wrote slut on Junko's face with a sharpie. She could get help afterwards, but she did not. So it wasn't like she joined in so nobody would be concerned and she could inform police and stop the nightmare.
Not as physically brutal, but still disgusting.
Also check the story of Sylvia Likens' torture and humiliation at the hands of Gertrude Baniszewski. Still men joined in, but the woman was a main perpetrator:

>Baniszewski encouraged Hubbard, her children, and neighborhood children to torment Likens, including, among other things:


>Extinguishing lit cigarettes upon her skin, reportedly over 100 times

>Beating her
>Tying her up
>Forcing her to eat feces and drink urine
>Clubbing her with objects such as hair spray cans, dishes and bottles
>Violently throwing her body against walls several times as "Judo practice"
>Burning all of her fingers with matches
>Mauling her vagina
>Lacerating her
>Burning her with scalding water
>Rubbing salt into her wounds
>Forcing her to strip naked and insert an empty glass Coca-Cola bottle into her vagina
>Paula Baniszewski once beat Likens in the face with such force that she broke her own wrist. She later had to wear a cast, which she used to further beat Likens.

>Gertrude Baniszewski later forced Jenny to hit her sister, beating her if she did not comply.




Men are responsible for most of the inhumane, brutal crimes, but it's INCREDIBLY stupid and naive to go all 'uwu all women are innocent angels'. By holding that view we might let pieces of shit slip by the cracks of justice.
I know it's men hate thread by I get triggered by people having such black and white worldview, even if men are perpetrators in 99% of cases.

No. 216541

>>216537
It's not INCREDIBLY stupid and naive. You're sperging about le <1%. No one's outright denying that women do fucked up stuff too, it's just that women are so much less likely to do stuff like this that cases like these are all but irrelevant.

No. 216544

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>>216537
I love how people have to dig up single extreme cases of woman-on-woman abuse to "prove their point" when statistics are against their agenda. Nobody's claiming that 100% of all women are non-violent, but men still commit 90% of violent crimes and 99% of sexual crimes.

No. 216546

>>216541

>not all women


anon, all those replies literally say "a woman/female wouldn't do that", read what people are saying. the people who are saying women won't do that are being black and white.

No. 216549

>>216546
>first one literally didn't say anything about it
>"nearly exclusive"
>"I could count on my fingers the number of stories like this involving women that I've read and none of them go as far."
>the fact that there are only three of them
right

No. 216553

>>216532
I support this. My issue with the porn industry centers mostly around the abuse the performers go through, this eliminates that.

No. 216555

>>216544
Seeing stats like this makes me hate men even more. They love using our biology against us (girls are crazy because periods!) but when you point out the effects of testosterone and the fact that men are responsible for the vast majority of violence as a result, they're like "not all men! Plus anger doesn't count as an emotion!"

No. 216557

>>216555
>Plus anger doesn't count as an emotion!"
Where are you guys even hearing this? This is an argument I never heard of before I went to this website. I've seen people argue that anger can motivate but that's very different.

No. 216564

>>216549
still, one of the anons did say that 'uwu no wooman would do this'. And yeah, a women (Baniszewski) literally did same thing. It was an exceptional case, but it still happened.
Reread my post, I was not arguing that it's mostly male problem. Still, I barf anytime someone tries to say that women are 100% flawless creatures.
Trust no-one (but men especially).

No. 216567

>>216557
I envy the shit out of you for never having heard this off of lolcow.

Misogynists don't count anger as being emotional because it's a more "rational" feeling, according to them… unless it's being felt by a woman because of course she's angry, she's on her period. Basically, any intense emotions a man feels don't count against them because then they couldn't use our emotions against us.

No. 216569

>>216557
most people on lolcow are just female incels, they hate men under the guise of acting like they care about women, but they don't really. I've learned that the bitterness of my fellow women on this site should be taken with a grain of salt. They just hate everyone and hate everyone trying to stop them from doing so.

No. 216570

>>216569
lol are you mystery.jpg?

No. 216571

>>216570
no, i just know hypocrites when i see them. i'd say 6/10 women on this site care about other women much less than they care about hating men. the amount of gross hatred that other women have to women on here is appalling. and i am not defending men in any way, it's just hard to ignore the internalized misogyny and self-hatred on lolcow.

No. 216572

>>216569
>>216571
>t. robot/robot queen bee

No. 216573

>>216571
…have you ever considered that some of us don't go on /snow/ or /pt/, stupid? I only go for the sh0e and lauren southern threads and I'm sure I'm not alone. like, it's pretty obvious we're not all the same.

No. 216575

>>216572
god you're deluded
>anyone pointing out the obvious is a robot!!!
>>216573
what do other boards have to do with it? i'm talking about /ot/ specifically. i meant users. not cows.

No. 216577

>>216569
>>216571
>>216575
Are you the same anon who keeps derailing other threads with your complaining? Stop.

No. 216578

>>216577
no, that anon isn't even talking about the same stuff.

No. 216579

>>216577
also, are you implying this thread wasn't already derailed? kek

No. 216586

>>216571
Interesting argument
and you may have a point, I don't doubt that there could be a few nuts on this website
This is not the thread to bring this up in tho, maybe we should start another thread discussing lolcow itself

No. 216730

>>216567
>Misogynists don't count anger as being emotional because it's a more "rational" feeling, according to them…
I've interacted with plenty of misogynists, just never heard the line anger is rational. Even red pill types say that the "anger phase" is normal but you need to move past it. Like maybe it's a dumb nerdy example but the red lanterns were explicitly the most self destructive ones too, it's a common notion that anger hurts you just as much.

No. 217064


No. 217115

As per usual, the comments on this video show absolutely zero compassion or desire to take down the corrupt industry.

No. 217116


No. 217174

>>217173
lol no it won't.

No. 217336

>>216164
Women helped this men torture othrr women:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Parker_Ray
I still sort of agree with you there though. I think men are more likely to do this stuff than women and it is of greater severity. The cases that involve women torturing people for sexual gain seem to only be accomplices to male perpetrators. I don't know of any cases where women have willing gone out of their way to do this stuff, the few women that do seem to be opportunistic more than anything.

No. 217629

Why does Straight Porn in industry have HIV/STD testing yet the Homosexual porn productions have no similar regulations?

When a gay man is the prime carrier of HIV

No. 217705

>>217629
Gay men usually don't care too much about their own well being. See pozzing and the popularity of bareback sex. A lot of them don't give a shit (especially the ones in porn), and neither do any of the guys shooting the porn.

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No. 220908

i'm so fucking relieved to see women in this thread not drinking the "Sex work is empowering!" kool-aid.

No. 220910

>>220909

i do not like it sam i am

No. 221340

>>217336
The only one I know of is Mary Bell, but she was an eleven year old who had been pimped out by her mother since age 4, so I feel like her case is very different from the men who do these things.



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