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No. 2553547
'Your boyfriend wears sunglasses all the time because he's fucking ugly' edition.
Discuss the current psyop regarding ugly and old men being shilled as attractive.
This thread is also for talking about topics like beauty double standards in media, ugly fictional and IRL men shilled as attractive, science about male aging and unattractiveness, etc.
>do not try to defend ugly men ITT, go to unconventional male attractions to discuss uggos you like>report/ignore racebait>this thread is specifically for what moids look like; extended discussions of moid behavior, crimes, sexuality, etc. are better suited to the manhate thread.Previous
>>2428639>>2458998>>2489483>>>/ot/2530312 No. 2553550
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This is what being a pickme onlyfans girl and Hollywood starlet gets you in 2025 btw.
No. 2553880
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No wonder /v/ermin like Clair Obscur so much, it appeals to their pedophilic fantasies of a beautiful young waifs going on adventures with ugly walled scrotes. I'm not surprised it was made by a Frenchoid moid who looks like a horse. Ironic how despite being inspired by JRPGs, it misses the fundmanetal thing of what attracts women to the genre to begin with; attractive, youthful men.
No. 2553988
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This featureless blank robot is sexier than 99% of men to me.
No. 2554113
Does anyone else get depressed by constantly having to see ugly moids? It doesn't matter if i go outside or online, ugly scrotes shove their disgusting mugs everywhere. The average scrote is so damn ugly it's not like they hace 1 unconventional feature or look plain, they actually look deformed like
>>2553550 and every single scrote is fat and unfit with a gut, they're not just ugly, they're repulsive and grotesque looking.
No. 2554192
>>2554163No 32 year old male looks that haggard, even the ugly ones. I cringe whenever they say the same about Paul Rudd.
>Omggggg he doesn’t age!Yes he does lol, visibly even.
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Total moid death.
No. 2554248
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>>2554239Of course she calls herself a trophy wife. To put so much effort into your appearance only to be rewarded with a scrote that looks like that and talks about you that way, literally sounds like my personal hell on earth. Part of me feels bad for her, but fuck her if she thinks this shit is okay. Pick mes are part of the probkem.
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Walled! The agepill is brutal, just look at his insane alcohol bloat, deep wrinkles, unhealthy skin color, receeding hairline, him clearly sucking his stomach in, his scribbled on grandpa hands,… and that moid was called the sexist moid on earth kek
No. 2554307
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Found it in leftcows thread. Young women will literally orbit disgusting dysgenic moids older than them just because they made le funny "leftist podcast"… It's unreal. I don't understand why women support this psyop and give those ugly men even more confidence. Even in my country there are ugly male youtubers making garbage videos and they have female fans who are 10 years younger than them and want to fuck them and send them their naked pics. Whyyyyyyy
No. 2554334
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>>2554307Kek this reminds me of the girl who yume'd roger rabbit so hard she dated the actual voice actor of him whos like 70-something. repost because i found her account again, its vickyjrabbit
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>>2554334Sorry for yumesperging, but a real yume would understand that dating ugly old white 3D men is antithetical to the core principles of being a yume. Why would she ever accept this hideous beast as an analog to her based cartoon husbando. Cringe and 3DPD-pilled.
No. 2554519
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>>2554307thankfully, i think this may actually be a tranny. the only people i've seen genuinely lusting over obese middle aged men are troons.
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>>2554519and i doubt an actual woman would make such a gross and retarded meme about herself. im gonna say its a man.
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don't ever give ugly guys a chance. this one cheated on his pregnant wife.
No. 2555182
>>2555171Not amateur, she was a professional porn star, apparently. But yes it is the girl from Euphoria.
>fundie girls who escape their shitty realigtard families and and up embroiled in the degeneracy of pornography at freshly 18-19 years old because they've never really been allowed to sexually explore. What a bizarre explanation, most girls don't 'sexually explore' before age 18, fundie or otherwise. And it's not like Mormons don't have a reputation for being especially promiscuous as teenagers anyway. Yet most young women who don't 'explore sexually' as minors don't become professional porn actresses.
No. 2555187
>>2555163Chloe Cherry too. Apparently she’s well known for pedobaiting especially earlier in her ‘career’ but went down the bimbo route.
>>2555171I genuinely didn’t know who this woman was before. Never watched Euphoria. The only media I’ve seen of her was some trash podcast soundbite clip where she was talking about her ‘asshole getting gaped by black men’. It was vile and I immediately disliked her and saw her as a gross pickme. I’m not even surprised that porn whores always end up dating the fugliest scrotes since being a professional pickme is literally their job. And what’s tragic is despite doing the most to please their scrote, their scrotes are always following and masturbating to other whores anyway. What a pointless life.
No. 2555202
>>2555192According to Planned Parenthood the average age to lose your virginity as a girl is 17 and a half years, which tracks with my experience. I knew some girls who had sex in mid to late high school and some of the girls I knew were 'fooling around' throughout high school especially the last 2 years of high school, but most people didn't have a ton of sexual experience, it would be maybe 1-3 guys they made out with and maybe had sex with 1 or 2 if any at all. Most of the secular girls I knew lost their virginity after they were adults, while it was mostly the mormons and evangelicals who were getting sexual experiences early, as is the stereotype kek. But it's not like anyone who didn't lose their virginity in high school really felt like they were missing out on anything, it was like easily half of all the people I knew.
>massive amount of millennial and zoomer girls who got groomed while underage.Getting groomed isn't having sex though.
>I have heard a lot of whores talk about being raised in fundie christian/mormon/tradcath households before deciding to have a ‘hoe phase’ and become a pornstar.I think it's a combination of wanting a fun backstory for their audience, the fact that it's very common to be raised in a fundie household in America, and the fact that fundie Evangelical/Mormon households raise girls to feel inferior to men and not value themselves very much, or think that they are doomed to have to get married young and start a family, which makes many girls want to rebel. I think it has absolutely nothing to do with some deep need to 'explore sexually' while underage, which is not a need at all and isn't even overwhelmingly common, plus it's not like fundie kids don't do it too.
No. 2555223
>>2555220We moved to the city and I continued being horny with everyone and she didn't. Then she got married, moved to a small town, had a couple kids and cheated on the moid and they divorced. I hope she is doing well, she was fun (other than being a virgin) You guys probably don't want to hear my comments about this bc I don't consider myself groomed and did (enjoy) sex before 18
a lot That's not really something I would brag about on lc but it does exist
No. 2555229
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The guy on the right is still walled to hell if you actually look at other images, like a weird benjamin-button'd harry styles, but since he doesn't look twice his actual age that's not good enough for moids kek
No. 2555237
>>2555227Of course losing your virginity in high school doesn't mean you will be promiscuous later, but I've never met a woman who wanted to wait or whatever just to become extremely promiscuous a couple years later. It just seems like it's appealing to scrotes with a weird purity fantasy when pornstars say that.
>If anything girls who get groomed while underageWhy do people keep bringing this up? What does grooming have to do with it? There is plenty of evidence that grooming while underage often leads to risky sexual behavior due to trauma but I don't think any of these pornstars mentioned grooming unless I'm wrong.
No. 2555238
>>2555202No offense nona but absolutely no corporation or controversial medical body like Planned Parenthood is ever going to come out and say ‘14 year old girls having sex is common’. It would cause too much outrage and make for very bad optics (half of America already hates them and wants to bomb their clinics). They don’t wanna add ‘normalizing pedophilia’ to their list of
problematic traits. This isn’t even a modern thing btw, wasn’t there some Nazi youth rally where 1000 underage girls ended up getting pregnant by the teenage boys at the rally and the Nazis had to make them all get abortions?
No. 2555244
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>>2555229I can’t decide if the normalization of wrinkes/skin texture in the 60s and 70s was a good thing or a bad thing. From what I’ve seen, it was acceptable back then for both young men and women to have wrinkles, because as long as you were tan and looked like you were normie as fuck and spent a lot of time outdoors, that was all that really mattered (like pic rel, surfer boys and girls were thought of as the coolest people ever in the 60s and 70s, even though they were sun damaged as hell lol)
Many boomers I know are still obsessed with tanning and think that it’s all that matters in term of skin. It is insane how old SC looks though on the left though, and a moid looking young for his age should never be seen as a bad thing.
No. 2555245
>>2555238It's not just planned parenthood and it's not just US statistics, hundreds of surveys going back decades and decades have shown very similar average ages across countries and continents. I'm not American which is why I looked at PP's figures since I thought maybe Americans might lose their virginity at earlier ages, but the 17 number is basically the same thing I've read in a bunch of academic papers, books, etc. over the years. In my personal experience, 14 year old girls having sex was absolutely NOT common, it was extremely unusual. Most girls I knew in middle school hadn't even had their first kiss yet.
>‘normalizing pedophilia’Kids being sexually active with their peers isn't pedophilia wtf
No. 2555257
>>2555247I agree anon, it's incredibly fucked and I imagine that many pornstars come from similar backgrounds. I'm not at all surprised they have terrible taste in/standards for moids when they are surrounded by the creepiest scrotes imaginable at all times and use their body as currency.
>>2555249I grew up in what felt like a very 'everywhere, north America' place too and that was not happening. I was in a 4+ year relationship with my high school boyfriend I started dating when I was 15 but only lost my virginity at age 19, and several of my best friends in college were still virgins in 4th year college (some of them were really surprising too - this one girl I had assumed had had tons of boyfriends because she was very conventionally hot and from a highly promiscuous culture but she was just like oh yeah I've never had a boyfriend haha). Some of my best friends from high school didn't even date at all until after they graduated from college. Of course I knew lots of people that had sex too, and ironically most of them were heavily religious.
>>2555251Not my experience either, almost everyone I knew who lost their virginity in high school (and the handful that lost it earlier) lost it to their boyfriend who was 95% of the time in their same grade, maybe 1 year above or below. I knew some girls with online boyfriends who were adults, but obviously they couldn't meet and were long distance so they weren't actually having sex. I don't think I ever knew anyone who had an adult irl boyfriend.
>I’ll always believe my own eyes and life experiences over surveys where people can write anything they want down, sorry nona. I believe my own life experiences too, and they track completely with the surveys. I lived in an urban area, in a relatively wealthy city.
No. 2555264
>>2555254It has more to do with DHT (and possibly even oxytocin) than Testosterone itself, but low T men for some reason seem to have a higher propensity for balding (maybe their hormones aren't converting properly, idk).
>>2555259>Personally I can’t prove the exact mechanism but I’m absolutely certain porn addiction contributes heavily to balding.It could be related to oxytocin release during orgasm nonna kek.
No. 2555269
>>2555265Yeah I don't know. I can't relate to that, my friends called me "square" for being a virgin at 15
but I also didn't really feel pressure, my bf at the time and I were making out every night and I really wanted to have sex after a while of doing this But still made it an elaborate thing bc why not
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>>2555260>Personally I can’t prove the exact mechanism but I’m absolutely certain porn addiction contributes heavily to balding.There is no mechanism; it’s just a direct punishment from Jesus. Jesus hated coomers and He said men who want to fap over women who aren’t their wives should pluck their eyes out or cut their hand off instead of doing that. Jesus wasn’t bald because he wasn’t a coomer. Notice how he always had pretty long hair. I love Jesus.
No. 2555275
>>2555268That's what I've heard as well but apparently we can't trust surveys and research so I'm not sure if it's true. It feels like zoomer moids are more sex-crazed in terms of porn and asking for nudes and sexually harassing women online, but like they're having fewer actual relationships and less actual irls sex.
>>2555269Maybe it's just related to SES/academics? I went to a school in a somewhat wealthier neighborhood and a 'good' university, so a lot of people were just focused on getting through school and being responsible. I don't remember anyone getting heavily judged for being a virgin or 'square,' nor do I remember anyone getting judged for having sexual experiences anyway, unless they were one of the rare cases that were 'slutty' or doing something salacious (like giving a lot of guys oral/hand jobs over the course of 1-2 years), where people would be somewhat shocked or judgmental. But for the most part this wasn't what people got bullied about ime, it was more for like being poor, a weird nerd/autist, 'stealing' someone's love interest, etc.
No. 2555277
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>>2555274That's pretty dumb anon but I did find out the apostles mostly had hair the other day except (maybe) two. Hmm
No. 2555445
>>2555297The ones with just enough social skills to get laid go absolutely feral and then play some variety of ghosting or uwu I'm so misunderstood, can we just be friends and I let you know I have a boner occasionally because I don't see you as a human but an object I can stick my penis in at my convenience? Don't tell anybody, you're not hot enough for me to brag about kind of energy.
They overestimate their own power and influence and see women as ladder rungs to step on to be experienced enough for their perfect waifu who definitely exists.
No. 2555447
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Literally my first thought about Expedition 33 was about how ugly the male characters were.
I think AC has had pretty good looking protagonists up until Origins. Bayek (Origins) wasn't that ugly, but his hair choices dragged him down a lot. Idgaf about the others that came after.
No. 2555530
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>Body dysmorphic retards are sperging out all over /ot/ about which boob size is the most "pickme" again
Why can't you get into normal astrology instead of whatever the fuck this is
No. 2555543
>>2555533I'm just trying to make the point that having bigger boobs doesn't automatically mean you get more attention. It would be pick me if I had said I'm an uwu irl loli or some other bullshit and that having small boobs makes you better or something which isn't really what I said. I just think this whole narrative that your body type makes you a pick me and influences your personality is retarded. Anyway this is offtopic to this thread so whatever
>>2555535Maybe idk
No. 2555551
>>2555549NTA but you are
way too butthurt about this and reading far deeper into it than necessary kek
No. 2555556
>>2555540its probably an ugly moid who wants women to keep hating each other over their tits size and competing for crumbs of his smegma chode instead of laughing at hideous men like this threads intended use was for
>>2554307i absolutely knew as soon as i saw this post it would be a troon. brianna ghey vibes. glad to see i was right. kek at that hideous moid calling himself a woman let alone a 10/10. oh well, if disgusting troons want to offer their vile, oval shaped blown out assholes to old pedophilic scrotes, at least it’s saving one actual young girl from being groomed.
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>my reaction to this entire flatty patty vs big booby ruby shitshow unfolding right now
both these actors are so goddamn ugly btw. i can’t believe i was ever psyopped into thinking jon hamm was gl.
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btw it’s absolutely disgusting how men fetishize the ogre/orc moid and elf/fairy girl pairing because it’s too fucking grounded in reality. when men troon out it REALLY emphasizes how grotesque and inhuman looking they are. like why is this scrotes head 3x the size of his gfs. why is this walled mood dating a beautiful young woman and trying to destroy her youthful microbiome and age her prematurely? because men are so fucking ugly and deformed and ogreish and hideous inside and out.
No. 2555578
>>2555568There are
literally porn stars for every body type ever, this infight is already retarded without going in such a weird moralfag direction
No. 2555588
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>>2555584I'm fascinated by this conspiracy theory of every porn star being secretly and nefariously flat-chested with the goal of making Staceys look bad.
>Genuine Stacies doing porn is almost unheard of. Its too threatening for men anyway, they can only jack off to the 5s-6s-7s at most because they know the 9s and 10s would never touch them even in their wildest fantasies>It's too threatening for menThe COPIUM, oh my god
No. 2555609
>>2555602> I don’t know many pornstars granted, but if you know who some of these ‘alleged’ Stacy pornstars are that you claim, name them and I bet we will see they’re not actually beautiful.HUH? Did you actually read the post?
>>2555603Right? It sure is weird how this "anon" started sperging about porn stars out of
literally nowhere kek
No. 2555722
>>2555163>>2555549>>2555561>>2555568>>2555603Kek fatty-anon is still going at it? She seethed in the fandom discourse thread over women being grossed out by porny depictions of women too. Wtf is her problem? I was
>>2549062 and one of the anons who poked fun at the ridiculous proportions of that one manhua girl and she is STILL going at it writing sexist fanfic. Someone needs to take their meds. It's even funnier when she pretends to be a totally different anon despite sperging about the EXACT same topics.
>>2555540It is so strange. Anons have always made fun of characters with hentai proportions and I don't know if this has been onset by Twitter tourists, Addy wks, or 4chan trannies.
No. 2555730
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Samefag + thread tax + back to main topic. There are rumors Leon is supposed to be an old scrote in RE9 and although this image is fanmade, if it ends up being true it will be 9/11 for this entire site, me included. Meanwhile Capcom's other title features a prepubescent girl designed to cater to pedofags. Women will never be free.
No. 2555743
>>2555730There is some tinfoiling that he is the mutated guy in a hood in the trailer. I wish they would rather leave him out of the game than having him appear like that.
They have a new cute young female character, they better include a new cute young male one as well.
No. 2555753
>>2555739It's American influence rubbing off on them, the old scrote obsession is primarily a burger thing from all I've seen. What do RE, MGS, and DMC all have in common? Loving to pander to westerners and as their popularity grew in that sphere, the male characters become uglier as well. The only triple A realistic game I've seen that doesn't fall
victim to this is FF but even then, just look at their most recent game. At least Cloud is cute still.
>>2555743GOD I thought that woman was a man at first and was pissed when I realized it was a woman.
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>>2555797They should make up some story line where he gets infected with a virus that is harmless to him except that he stay forever young and handsome. After all, they made sure Jill didn't age a day between Re3 and Death Island.
No. 2555869
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>>2555859I fucking hate the woke trend of female characters remaining unwrinkled and eternally youthful while men hit the wall the second they turn 25. Mainstream gaming is plagued with this and it is the true enemy of gaming, not wokeshit (though I think walling males is DEI shit but I digress)
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>>2555893
>t.
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>>2555893
>My BMI is 20 and that’s even with my huge tits included stay mad you ugly pointy tranny tits moob bitch. Your bf wanks to me behind your back lol.(infighting/responding to baiter)
No. 2555910
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Unsaged newfag tranny tripleposting again. Post hot guys to scare it away
No. 2555913
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>>2555908
KEK it's been DAYS since Sonico was brought up in the fandom thread and you're STILL SEETHING
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>>2555908
>Oh and don’t forgot to throw a fit every time Super Sonico shows up on your feed!(infighting/responding to baiter)
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>>2555897
No1curr
No. 2555923
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>>2555920
Your attempts to force this narrative are very obvious and sad, I think you need to take a break
No. 2555928
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>>2555923Xe needs to take xer meds
No. 2555931
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>>2555929NTA but agreed. Absolutely tragic
No. 2555935
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>>2555929Agreed. He looks good for the average 50 something year old but still absolutely washed. Also isn't he a Trump supporter now? Kek, anything for attention.
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imagine if this is what dante looked in the game. but no they had to make him old and give him a beard
i wish i could mod
No. 2556324
>>2555573I hate those fucking elf girl comics so much, they're the most moidbrained thing ever. Women do not want to fuck the people they hate, that's almost exclusively a male behavior, and only a moid writer would project that attitude on a woman.
>inb4 rivals/enemies to loversThat's not the same as the kind of one-sided hate you see in the elf comics. She is a literal bigot against this random human who hasn't done anything to her personally. It's such a common rapist cope to assume that if a woman is openly disgusted with a man, she must secretly want to fuck him. I wouldn't be surprised if their artist turned out to be some kind of sex pest tbh.
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>>2555929MiA went down the same route after hanging out with him too much, he should've stopped with the surgeries back when mejibray keeled over. Isn't he around mid 30s now? He looks like a botched 60 year old Samsung wife. I guess the gross old moids who fuck him prefer than retarded lizard look.
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>>2555573Look at robin Thicke's new "wife" who's only 30 (think she's even younger in this picture). Anachan, plastic surgery and having 3 kids before age 30, not even once
No. 2556925
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>>2556921She's let this moid suck the life out of her
No. 2556967
>>2555730just because hes old and the game is set in the future it does not mean that he needs an ugly as fuck beard and shitty hair. They can still make him appealing instead of that horrifying image.
They could get away with giving him just tiny crows feet and an appealing shade of platinum white hair instead of turning him into a ugly hobo with deep pockmarks.
Even moids appreciate how cool and good looking Leon is. There will be meltdowns everywhere if this happens.
No. 2556978
>>2555743I was watching the summer game fest the other day and I noticed that many of the new games featured conventionally attractive bimbo tier women in skimpy sexualized outfits but no attractive men to match. It seems like games are doubling down on keeping the sexual gaze male only after being pressured to get rid of it/diluting it the last decade. And by skimpy I mean that it made the women in Marvel Rivals look tame.
I unfortunately believe that moids have become emboldened and are making female characters more sexual and appealing than ever while simultaneously uglifying and oldifying all of the males in retaliation.
No. 2557054
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>>2557012Yeah, he would fit quite nicely in a /snow/ thread with his post mejibray bpdemon tier attention baiting attempts. He was always kinda retarded and had a bad case of celebrity disease but it has gotten way worse in the recent years. Vidrel is something he willingly posted on his xitter, even with the filters working overtime he looks insanely uncanny valley and downright scary. The disbandment really did a number on all of them, Koichi has a nice enough face but the weird black larp makes him look retarded.
What the fuck is Gackt making him huff backstage to think this looks good? He looks like he has one of those realistic masks on at all times. In more barefaced/slightly less filtered videos his face still has that eerie look and eye movement (autism stare?) that's really specific to him and it's even scarier now.
No. 2558329
>>2558259I just drudged through comments looking for this because I hate myself, it's hilarious how literally every male saying that shit looked like a half-decayed ballsack themselves.
>>2558279Men hate us so much I think they would prefer if we all just died at 30 as to not taint their field of vision by daring to not look 18 anymore. Oh but it's fine that the average 25 yo moid already looks like a wax statue from 1978 that's been bathing in battery acid for the last couple decades.
No. 2558364
>>2556281I miss Tom Welling.
>>2556892This is disappointing.
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>>2558243Sometimes I wish the music industry was like kpop where only the prettyboys at least 7/10 succeed, but kpop musically sucks. This was supposedly a member of a boy band who was a supposed heartthrob.
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>>2559874Yeah but he was legitimately referred to as "the ugly one" and everyone called kevin "the dirtbag"
No. 2559878
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>>2559877samefag this guy's name is literally "fat one"
No. 2559879
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>>2559875He's a member of the Backstreet Boys.
No. 2559882
File: 1749691868242.jpg (5.79 KB, 168x300, justin_timberlake.jpg)
>>2559879Yeah I remember girls only liking nick or the one who looks like an alligator. I thought nick seemed like a rapist even back then, just the vibe he gives off. Afa nsync, girls only liked white afro and the gay one
No. 2559885
File: 1749691932508.jpg (27.29 KB, 458x612, gettyimages-1692243794-612x612…)
>>2559878Holy shit. Why did he want to have this as a heartthrob boy band?
No. 2559886
File: 1749692131705.jpg (106.32 KB, 1500x1000, boyband_plus_idaho_farmer.jpg)
>>2559885It genuinely seemed like masochism att, everyone made fun of the token ugly boy band members. Girls got a lot out of 98 degrees iirc, except a 35 year old potato farmer won a rural newspaper competition to become one of the members, which was weird
No. 2559909
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>>2559875>>2559879No that's Chris from NSYNC
>>2559874 No. 2559914
File: 1749694485574.jpg (225.29 KB, 1548x1024, seething.jpg)
>>2559909Oh yeah, the other guy. It seemed like he was the bitchy diva drama queen always trying to push lance and justin out of the spotlight
No. 2559949
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>>2559945There were girls who read these weird magazines like picrel and they would just throw in adult moids, next to the home improvement kids. It's probably part of the psy-op. The type of girls who would read them and put the moids on their walls seem like the yaois of this time, the moids were interchangeable and 2d but they took it very seriously
No. 2560102
File: 1749705714029.jpg (79.9 KB, 1132x760, ig.socialapi-v2.workeras.jpg)
Hallmark movies should be classified as psychological warfare. Even from a business perspective, wtf is the logic behind a product targeted solely at straight women pairing a gorgeous woman with a hideous male? Who enjoys this shit?
No. 2560103
File: 1749705826885.png (1.87 MB, 1662x1080, RG55yhzgrdDG.png)
>>2560102Samefag, someone free this poor actress. Every movie she's been in pairs her with the most abominable beasts. Who the fuck thought it was okay to cast this revolting ballsack as a romantic lead??
No. 2560279
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>>2560276Are you sure about that anon? kek
No. 2560285
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>>2560283I guess bc it is the ugly moid psy-op thread anon
>>2560284It looks good type 1 moids sometimes
No. 2561277
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People are saying that the new actor cast as Vernon Dursley in the HBO Harry Potter series is too “hot” to play Vernon. He looks pretty much exactly as the character is described in the books and he’s average at best. Women are already thirsting over him and saying they know that edits will be made of him.
No. 2561976
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>>2561812Was he? I remember him being described as large and beefy, and then they cast an obese actor to play him. He had small eyes, black hair, a black mustache, and I think double chin(s). Molly was also described as “plump” but an obese actress was cast to play her, and now that the new actress isn’t obese people are saying they’re making the cast too attractive (even though the actress looks a bit overweight, like Molly was supposed to be)
>>2561806They’re serious unfortunately, but in a post pedo pascal world I guess this is the new normal
No. 2564267
File: 1749936569367.png (65.17 KB, 800x475, 800px-Desirability_of_men_vs_w…)
Nonnies, how do we fix this? I was hatereading the Incel wiki and if this is true, it is very concerning.
No. 2564325
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>>2564274But OKC are the stats that moids always rage about because it shows that women get way more messages than men meaning women are evil shallow whores who only want chad. Which can also be debunked immediately by picrel but incels never bothered to read this part.
Whatever that data is from, it was probably literally just made up by a man. The data is too neat looking and while I could buy that moids stop wanting women over 30, because they are pedophiles and admit this all the time, men do NOT get the most attention at fucking 45-50 lmao. In their dreams. That's the demographic most likely to kill themselves out of loneliness, if they could easily get 20 yr old girls online then they wouldn't need to commit suicide.
No. 2564494
File: 1749951014564.jpg (156.46 KB, 934x340, umpsop.jpg)
Stumbled on this and thought of this thread, no one has fallen for this psyop harder then men lol.
No. 2564506
>>2564494Polycucks are so retarded kek.
>I just recently opened up my marriage like a retard and now I'm mad because I realized my wife is attractive but I'm not>I don't want to be a fourth wheel with my own wifeWell why did you open up your relationship then you retard? Anyway yeah I like how he says 'they were looking for friends first,' admits they want to be friends with him but don't want to have sex with him, which is completely in keeping with 'wanting to be friends first' but then starts sperging that they should find him sexually attractive because he has a 'good personality.' Uh no.
No. 2565739
>>2565719I think this anon is right about conditioning
>>2565736 but genetics probably plays a bigger role than anyone is willing to acknowledge. The average anon isn't attracted to the average moid at any age or physical ability. There are all kinds of theories as to why this is, including the reddit moid favourite "all the good moids died in the war"
No. 2565746
>>2565744Eloquently said!
I realised that when I'm attracted to men who are quirky looking they're still very very fit and young- like a body > face deal. But it's never JUST about his personality. Ever.
No. 2565805
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>>2565798Is this the moid you mean? I'm just wondering if the anons who aren't attracted to 90% of moids have a common type. Many of us are still cursed with moid attraction or psy-opped
No. 2565813
File: 1750040928384.webp (49.41 KB, 640x640, the-former-king-of-wattpad-mal…)
>>2565811kek okay good. I did look up the real chico, this is really funny
No. 2565816
File: 1750040963184.jpg (8.28 KB, 201x251, womp_womp.jpg)
>>2565813samefag kek, poor nonas
No. 2566558
File: 1750098279012.jpg (Spoiler Image,233.54 KB, 1178x1680, fatboyfriday.JPG)
I’m so glad this moid got bullied into deleting, these ugly fucks have been getting too bold (spoiler for hairy moid belly)
No. 2566795
>>2566586AYRT and I wasn't counting people having hookups either. By 'remain single' I mean 'did not date at all.' I was highly extroverted in my late teens/early 20s and went through a phase of dating a lot between the ages of, idk, 20-23 or so (didn't do hookups though, like just going on dates dating), switched to only dating women for a year or so because I was never interested in moids anymore, and eventually found the whole thing so boring and exhausting I stayed intentionally single pretty much the whole time between 24-30, even when people I was somewhat interested in asked me out I just didn't want the trouble. A lot of my friends including the attractive ones went through a similar trajectory to me, where they thought dating or engaging in hookups was really exciting during or right after their college years but then got bored and decided to focus on their careers, hobbies, or grad school instead. I also knew a couple really attractive women who just straight-up didn't date at all until their late 20s because they wanted to focus on career/education or just didn't meet anyone they were interested in and didn't bother looking for anyone. A lot of those people eventually found boyfriends in their late twenties or early thirties, so they're not forever-volcels, but I think most of them just developed higher standards after the first burst of dating around they did in college after realizing most moids are worthless. My experience might be biased though because I ended up dropping a lot of my friends around my mid-20s if they were still humiliating themselves for moids or always wanted to talk about men, so the friends I've stayed in touch with were more like me.
Me and my straight best friend in our early 20s were having lolcow-esque conversations essentially amounting to 'women who hook up with and date shitty moids are class traitors who make things bad for all women' years before I found radfeminism, it just seemed so obvious kek. There was just a vibe shift 1-2 years after college where it seemed like a lot of us realized actively dating around with subpar moids was stressful and humiliating, and we started to get really annoyed by the women in our group who were still doing it and talking about it.
I think part of it was also that I realized I was psyopped into thinking I should give unattractive or otherwise beneath-me moids a chance, and it hit me that I had been giving 'chances' to people I wasn't actually attracted to. Then when they tried to kiss or hug me or hold my hand I would feel repulsed and recoil from them, and wonder why I was accepting dates from someone I felt that way about. My lightbulb moment came when my best friend asked 'would you ever do anything sexual with (any of the people who had asked me out and I was on the fence about)?' and I said 'no, never.' It was like I came out of a haze and realized that there's no specific reason I should be wasting time getting coffee/food with people who aren't my friends just because other women around me were doing it. I somewhat blame my family and other friends who always asked me 'do you have a boyfriend yet?' and 'seriously, no prospects at all?' as if it made you boring to be single. Sorry for the spergy blog, but I wonder if the types of women you're describing just feel like they'll be considered uninteresting to talk to if they don't have relationship drama going on. I think that, and FOMO, was the main reason I kept dating for the few years that I dated actively.
No. 2567204
>>2555739A good example of this back in 2017 is when moids were complaining about how Bill Skarsgard was "too young" to play Pennywise despite him being an ageless clown. Moids just have a huge problem with male actors in their 20s. Yet they are the opposite with actresses, where they will literally refer to actresses in their 30s as hags.
Western moids are just obsessed with the dichotomy of older man and younger woman.
No. 2567587
>>2566558Fat moids inspire nothing but hate in me. How come you have the biological advantage of losing weight easily by not eating like a porcine and waste that? And judge women harshly on being fat?
In my dictatorship all the fat moids would be sent for a losing weight camp and only return to society when they get thin
No. 2567844
File: 1750189249569.jpg (158.28 KB, 1280x1250, 1000006072.jpg)
The psyop reaches far
No. 2567932
>>2567918But they know it isn't gonna happen and they know it makes them look batshit crazy to everyone else so if they were sane they would keep it to themselves. It's so embarrassing to publicly admit you need the government to give you a gf because you have reinterpreted being a hideous fat NEET as 'tranquility' kek.
Also, if it's so 'tranquil' for them to be jobless fat guys who watch TV all day and can't support themselves let alone a partner/family, why do they need gf so bad? I thought it was a tranquil and zen existence to be a repulsive useless scrote. Where does the woman come in? Reminds me of that moid posted in (I think) the moidtakes thread who made that 20-min youtube video talking about how he's 'so done' with women then describing a detailed fantasy of how Sydney Sweeney will wander into his basement and start living on his couch, feeding and nurturing him while 'staying quiet' and having no expectation of companionship. If you're so happy with your simple loser life and so 'done' with women why you keep talking about getting women magically handed to you? Just be happy, like volcel women are.
No. 2567995
>>2567844Trite. Tired. Pedestrian.
Now imagine how much cuter a sweet little middle aged babushka looking woman being doted after by her 25 yo alt bishie bf would be.
No. 2568088
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I was watching one of this scrotes videos because it popped up in my related. He was talking about older women being gross as strippers or something. I was confused thought he was mid to late 50s and had no room to talk. Turns out he's 39 and used to look decent. I don't think this ugly scrote realizes how old and busted he is now and thinks he's still hot and young.
Probably because he has a beautiful wife and pickme fans saying he aged like fine wine. Literally what's wrong with these women? Men would never do the same for them. I'm sick of it.
No. 2568349
File: 1750219153203.jpg (77.63 KB, 720x738, Chico walled.jpg)
>>2565816He was one of the most handsome men who ever lived, but he aged like milk. Imagine having a receding hairline by the time you're eaely 30's.
No. 2568360
>>2568088He also imported his wife when she was like 18 and he was 27 and paid her for a boob job
I remember him being called out on it cuz he tried to moralfag a guy in his reaction videos
No. 2568492
File: 1750234053346.jpeg (121.71 KB, 681x934, IMG_3794.jpeg)
Just shoot all three of them in the head already
No. 2568500
File: 1750234899377.jpg (164.52 KB, 1157x1462, 1000037002.jpg)
>>2568492Even standing next to a woman performing a sexual innuendo can't make them look any less gay kekaroo
No. 2568580
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>>2568088kek every time I see him I'm reminded of his horrible tattoos, I feel bad for his wife and kids
No. 2568616
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>>2568580Cringe af you can tell he still thinks he's the same cool hot edgy youtuber he was 10 years ago. It comes out in the way he speaks every once in awhile.
>>2568602Yeah but the stark difference shook me kek I thought for sure he was 55+ apparently he used to stream with pewdiepie. Not a pewdiepie fan but at least he aged better. Jesus.
>>2568360I heard about that. Not really shocked at all tbh.
No. 2568626
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a few days ago an asian moid responded to me with this image, as if it was some kind of own. It's sad, since the "17th European man" easily defeated and conquered the fat, ugly moid on the right.
No. 2568650
>>2567859Patriarchy up until recently has basically done this for them. Many, many unworthy bloodlines exist today because of incel DEI.
A society where women cannot live independently (systemically barred from most avenues to support themselves) and ushered off to live as an unworthy man’s dependent and incubator.
“State mandated gfs” is what they once had, even if not under such a direct name. They’re just being honest about it now that they have no other options.
It’s like being part of a club where you get a complimentary buffet so you never had to worry about food. Then you get kicked out and banned for life, you start howling to the world about how you need a meal. The club was nice and you’d like to go back, but you’re most worried about starving to death.
No. 2568718
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>>2568626why do misogynistic moids always admit that their gay pedophiles unprompted?
No. 2568771
>>2568718It's the male version of polilez. They're trying to psyop themselves that they're gay to stick it up to the femaaallees who rejected them and/or because they don't have a choice. That, and a younger guy is less threatening to their masculinity than a hairy leather daddy bear.
The other explanation: they're genuinely gay/bisexual who also happened to be misogynistic.
No. 2568780
>>2568775cough cough Afghanistan and Ancient Greece.
cough coughOn a serious note, for the Afghanistan one there's a research paper called "Pashtun Sexuality" that's available for free on the 'net that kind of details the phenomenon of why male kiddie diddling is a thing there—despite being Muslims who, you know, are supposed Tobe homophobic.
No. 2568818
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>>2568602He looked a lot better
No. 2568846
File: 1750260751722.jpeg (306.69 KB, 786x1844, IMG_2321.jpeg)
The New York Times ran an article about "soft pretty boys" as social media cooks, only the moids they photographed are ugly as shit.
No. 2568850
File: 1750260861002.jpeg (335.27 KB, 786x1875, IMG_2324.jpeg)
>>2568846This one's not too bad, but I wouldn't call him "soft"
No. 2568857
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>>2568850But this guy's fucking ugly. What are they trying to pull here? He's neither soft nor a boy.
No. 2568866
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>>2568773>>2568777this is their logic
No. 2568869
>>2568781nta but here's the paper
https://info.publicintelligence.net/HTT-PashtunSexuality.pdfbasically they hate women in principle, but they also don't want to have sex with men, both for religious reasons (the quran forbids it) and they think it's disgusting. so their main targets are young prepubescent boys, basically any boy young enough not to grow facial hair, since there is a distinction in the quran between boys and men. It only becomes 'gay' or perverted when the boy reaches puberty and this used to be common in many Islamic societies.
No. 2568889
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>>2568869there is also a caste of eternally young and beautiful boys as servants in Islamic heaven. this is mentioned in the quran and wasthe excuse that muslim men could use to rape little boys.
No. 2569960
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>>2568853She looks like his daughter
No. 2570052
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>>2569960Once again, this shit has to be some form of self harm. The way my eyes widened when I saw her next to that orc he really does look like he could be her father he's just way too ugly for that. I'm going to vomit
No. 2570158
>>2570052In her defense he wasn't as hideous when they first got together.
>>2569960Idk how old this pic is but he looks even uglier now
No. 2570182
File: 1750334234818.jpg (12.78 MB, 3705x5187, Pedro_Pascal_at_the_2025_Canne…)
I can't stand seeing Pedro Pascal and I'm certain there's going to be sexual misconduct allegations about him that'll surface in a few years.
No. 2570689
>>2569960Yeah he does look like her dad. And he looks like a grandpa now, I didn't know who this was but when the first pic was posted I assumed he was in his 50s at least.
>>2570182Whenever straight men go really hard to cape for troon males I assume they have some skeletons in their closet too. Either they're GAMPs/secret troons themselves or they're sex pests. There's no other reason for straight men to identify with AGP troons that hard.
>>2570538I see plenty of non-incel Asian males around who lean into the bishie look even though I don't live in Asia, other Asian men must be able to see that Asian prettyboys get girlfriends from just looking around. I guess incels don't go outside though.
No. 2570805
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>>2570798Google 'mewing'. It's basically a thing to correct your facial posture by breathing through your nose and keeping your tongue at the roof of your mouth when you're not talking/eating.
No. 2571080
>be an mom
>travel across the sea to spend time with your daughter
>she takes you out to a fancy restaurant with her scrote
>they planned badly and picked a restaurant that needed reservations + no pets allowed
>your daughter makes you eat in the car with the dog
Women are wired to throw each other to the curb all to service ugly scrotes. Doing this for any man is disgusting but for this uggo she calls her husband? How do incels even exist.
No. 2571708
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Kekked
No. 2571744
>>2571080I’m shocked by the audacity of all this but also the mom and daughter being chinese and the mom having travelled from overseas. In my culture we wait for the eldest to eat first and it’s the same in china, but here they have her waiting with the dog for their scraps?? Kek how is this couple not a disgrace to the entire daughter’s side of family. Even if the mom volunteered you shouldn’t actually go along with that kek. It says everything that the moid didn’t go in the car, he must’ve been so relieved that mother-in-law did the hard thing instead of him, disgusting balding bastard.
And the couple not thinking to check if the “#1 steakhouse in the US” requires reservations is so dumb kek. I also don’t get why they didn’t try a different steakhouse or other restaurant.
No. 2572372
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I just found out about r/MyBoyfriendisAI because of that news segment going around and am going through 'photos' for an 'AI boyfriend wedding' some redditors are generating kek but I noticed a lot of the women are making their fake AI-generated boyfriends ugly and walled. Like, why? What even is the point of fantasizing about a fake AI boyfriend when you're going to make him ugly?
Removed the original image because I don't want a ban for posting AI slop, but here's the thread:
https://www.reddit.com/r/MyBoyfriendIsAI/comments/1kxf228/to_my_found_family_come_join_us/ No. 2572383
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>>2565620>>2564506>>2565613Lol IKR? If nonnas want more evidence of this and a good laugh head over to r/bumble which is just full of "why am i getting no matches, am i just ugly?" and sometimes there are replies but people tend to be nice by saying "no its your profile blah blah" They are usually kind to bald guys but this guy got huge stick and in fact even I feel bad posting him here because surprisingly theres even worst looking guys posting on there but they
really laid into this guy this pic offended a lot of them, the reason seems to be because hes only in his 20's/
No. 2572397
>>2572384And of course the moids in the thread generated images of some scantily clad e-thots or young twinks but the women in the majority of cases all generated some 45-year-old norwooding brown eyed man with wrinkles and a beard. The one TIF actually seems to have the 'youngest' AI boyfriend kek.
>>2572383There's no way this man is in his 20s, he must be trolling.
No. 2572481
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>>2572372Same thing with yumes who husbando ugly old male characters, genuinely what's the point? You could so easily get a guy who looks like that irl they're literally the majority of males. What's the point of having a fantasy where you could have anything you desire, only to continue to settle? I mean, I'm glad they're not getting involved with any irl geriatric scrotes, but it's still insanely cucked. Especially with the way a lot of them clearly objectify themselves for their hideous ficto-moids
No. 2572974
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There’s a trend where girls post photos of themselves and their exes (“me and the guy that traumatized me”) and I’m desperately hoping most are just trolling with pics of random uggos because this is revolting.
No. 2572987
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I recently got nostalgic for ANTM so I looked up my beloved Allison (creepychan for anyone who remembers), and jfc her choice of husband is so disappointing. She's this ethereal, stylish, unique model who was SO popular for her looks and her husband is just some ugly old guy.
There's something so distressing and demotivating when you see this happen with women you particularly love to look at. What's the point of being skinny and pretty and cultivating a standout aesthetic if that's your reward?
No. 2573093
>>2572481>You could so easily get a guy who looks like that irl they're literally the majority of males. They obviously are not attracted to old moids but know that pretending to do so, gives you lots of positive attention. Same with Pedro Pascal and Co. He's supposed to be hot because he's sooo funny and uwu kind and therefore millions of women pretend to be into him because it's socially expected but luckily irl most young girls aren't actually hitting on balding fat dads.
The way bigger and more common problem out there are technically age appropriate relationships but in which the moid is nevertheless miles underneath her in looks because he doesn't give af about her. Women have 100 step routines, moids unironically use 3 in 1. My mom too only weighs half as much as my dad after birthing 3 children, yet my dad is so low effort that during covid he had to be forced into washing his hands when he came home. The minimum requirements for moids are in hell.
No. 2573221
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>>2571080Wait the scrote is the daughter's boyfriend? I thought the scrote was the dad, Jesus christ
No. 2574890
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>>2573557I don't know if this is racebait, but as a non-american the way I understand it, american/european jewish men tend to be generally ugly, unattractive and very neurotic. they are seen as the lowest echelon of white men, so they go after asian women who like them because of perceived whiteness?
No. 2574978
>>2572974I dont have tiktok but saw someone covered this subject over on youtube and honestly it kinda gave me hope that these women are exposing themselves and maybe as a group now we can start shunning these ugly men.
I also loved how the creator here refused to call them men or even males she just calls them cryptids. The first 5 minutes is her explaining what this is but goes on to show a lot of the tiktok reels and im warning any of you watching this please dont watch while eating or if you have just eating you may be sick.
No. 2575036
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I hope more and more women wake up to the psy-op because this is depressing to read.
No. 2575097
>>2575038Prob surrounded by the message that 'women aren't visual creatures' anyway. It primes you to not even expect attraction to a guy. That's no biggie. Nobody feels that.. just stick with the first guy who seems.. nice. And keep yourself beautiful because remember, he is the visual one! I remember so much of that bs when I was growing up.
Meanwhile people who spread that message do get that we're 'the visual sex' in just about every other respect. They def expect the woman in a couple to have an eye for everything else that requires some taste.
No. 2575587
>>2574978The women responding saying these moids looked like they were found under a bridge or in a sewer are dead-on, that's the most surprising part of this to me. Like okay not every woman in the video was stunningly beautiful and I could understand why some of them would feel their realistic dating pool is mid men as it's common for women to aim low but the moids they dated were like creatures from the abyss level ugly, and not just ugly but unkempt, looked homeless/criminal, filthy, toothless/unhealthy, etc. I have at some earlier point in my life felt a little bit of pity for moids that were born facially ugly, but what I will never understand is why a moid born facially ugly would then go and completely ruin his chances on the dating market by intentionally getting 50 facial tattoos, never washing his hair, growing out scraggly unkempt homeless man facial hair, knocking out a few teeth and not getting at least some bridges or dentures or something, dressing like a homeless crack addict, refusing to exercise at all, etc. Like how do these moids get away with dating any woman at all, let alone pretty women who put effort into their appearance? If I looked half as disgusting as those moids I would literally be too embarrassed to leave my house and go out in public. I think a lot of women feel the same way. You know on top of that they probably have shit personalities, shit/no jobs and no marketable skills, and bad manners (you can tell just from the selfies and video poses kek that most of them acted like trashy retards too).
And then like
>>2575097 said moids have the gall to claim that they are the 'visual creatures' while women are not, kek. Do they possess a mirror?
>>2575036Maybe she's lesbian kek
No. 2575641
Love island usa season 7 is a case study. All the men have been bullying the hottest guy since day one because he keeps getting the hottest women. Tonight they banded together to get him kicked off the show and the entire fandom is pissed
No. 2575643
>>2575641You can see the pure hatred in their eyes that the women is looksmatched instead of with them
No. 2575644
>>2575643These never happened last season because the guys were mostly looks matched. Everything scrotes say about women is projection
No. 2576481
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Hollywood should only hire TikTokers who are popular for their looks.
No. 2576505
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>>2576481No they're always posing and it's annoying. They need to reboot zoolander or something
No. 2576884
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>>2575036A reply from that thread
No. 2576889
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I've been enjoying reading comments from gay men trash this faggot and his ugly moustache on twitter lately. I feel homicidal thoughts whenever i see this try hard dipshit. Fuck him and his crumbl cookie.
No. 2576891
>>2576884>I'm attracted to personalities, not bodiesGod I hate this retarded woman cope. Obviously someone's personality is part of attraction and most people could stop finding someone physically attractive when interacting with them and realizing they have a repulsive personality, but if you're not attracted to someone physically can you even say you're attracted? Do you have sex with a personality? What is this even supposed to mean? Either these women are lesbian or they're just making excuses for shacking up with moids that repulse them because they have low standards and no self-esteem.
>>2576889I hate when young moids have that giant face with all their facial features crowded together in the middle. You know by the time they're 40 they will look like Leo Dicaprio does now.
No. 2576955
>>2576939>If you're not physically attracted to someone, but like their personality, doesn't that just mean you want to be friends?As a non-autist, yes, that is how non-autists think about it too kek.
>Shouldn't someone you date be someone you're attracted to both physically and mentallyYes, but these pathetic reddit women are so psyopped they have convinced themselves attraction is not necessary so they get into relationships with moids they're reluctantly pity-fucking for some perverse reason.
>There has to be something here I'm too retarded to understand.The pathetic depravity and low self esteem of handmaidens I guess? I don't understand it either.
No. 2576972
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>>2553880I have this same beef with Baldur's Gate 3. Every romancable scrote looks 40, meanwhile there's Shadowheart for the lesbos and male players. They could have easily made Astarion a beautiful young man but no. Wyll is supposed to be 20-something but they made him look older than he is with a 4/10 face. For the love of god where are the beautiful young men in media??
No. 2576998
>>2575643That short gnome Ace could not even reach the floor when he sat down. Jeremiah is not my type but he’s conventionally attractive.
Scrotes literally hate handsome , successful men, they pray on their downfall. They know he is the most attractive one out of the ogres and they sabotaged him because all the women were flocking to him kek.
No. 2577040
>>2576999I've never watched this show and idk how it works, can the moids choose to vote off another moid or are they just trying to turn the women against him? This conversation is so funny though not understanding the premise of the show
>oh no they are so bad they keep hanging out together>they're supposed to be disloyal and getting to know everyone equallyAm I correct that they are criticizing this moid for focusing on one woman he's interested in, on a dating show? And trying to talk the women into voting him off since he seems more interested in another woman? Moid jealousy is so hilarious and self-sabotaging, even in stupid reality TV scenarios they openly whine to women and criticize a moid for not acting like enough of a player while internally seething about him being hotter than them kek. Why don't they show some attention to/try to flirt with these women they're huddled with to try to compensate for their ugly looks instead of acting like the moid media stereotype of gossipy middle school bully girls? Moids always whine about being seen as betas but then they act like such a beta stereotype whenever they encounter a moid they perceive on some level is better or more attractive.
No. 2577166
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>goes to nerdy guy crush thread thinking it’s going to have a bunch of cute moids with glasses who just so happen to have unconventional interests
>it’s just a bunch of dysgenic jewish scrotes who look like they were genetically engineered with the sperm from some of the lowest quality of life, including h3h3
We are never escaping the patriarchy.(bait)
No. 2577179
>>2577166Blog but I have a mentally ill friend who looks like a model or elf fairy princess, is obsessed with fashion/makeup/hair styling despite being kind of a shutin and having moidish interests otherwise, and she openly talks about how attracted she is specifically to ugly dysgenic looking jewish 'nerd boys' with ugly dated hipster style. Then of course they always mistreat her because of the sheer seething rage and inadequacy they feel when this ethereal fairy princess model/actress looking woman gives them attention as ugly moids always do, especially since she is also tall and somehow manages to date dumpy/skinnyfat short scrotes every time too. I wish I could understand the specific mental illness that causes this, since she always tells me she has a hard time finding boyfriends because she has such 'high standards' but every moid she is interested in looks like a younger woody allen and is balding and wears moth-eaten sweaters while she wears like high fashion designer clothes and spends 100s per month on makeup and skincare. She told me she specifically finds it offputting when moids dress too clean cut, accessorize, have nice or longer hair, use skincare or otherwise put effort in because it 'isn't masculine' even though the moids she goes for are not masculine looking at all.
There seems to be a specific type of woman that will pour thousands of hours and dollars into her appearance and yet specifically lust after the ugliest, lamest men and no matter how many times I have tried to ask her about it and tell her that her choice in moids is embarrassing she just claims to have very 'high standards' and that her standards are just so specific she finds it hard to be attracted to anyone. What causes this?
No. 2577723
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>Men stop coping and seething over attractive young man : impossible
The amount of BS in this post is insane and it made me think of the post a few threads back about how most women do like tapered waists on men and not roided/fridge bodies, at least some of the comments called the BS out (will post in reply)
No. 2577737
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>>2577723Some of the replies
No. 2577742
>>2577377I believe its a combination of mentally ill women believing they will never be picked due to their mentally illness as well as thinking
incorrectly that dating down will give her leverage
it does not. No. 2577836
>>2577291Partially, but more normal looking women I know with low self esteem still aren't like this. They will at least try to date moids who are as attractive as them, even if they feel bad about themselves. She also knows she's hot, she had a job for many years that was based entirely on appearance/where she was hired for her looks and presentation, so she knows she's conventionally attractive.
>>2577298Maybe, but I would think dating someone who puts zero effort into appearance, doesn't even moisturize or brush their hair or mend their holey ripped clothes would actually just highlight how superficial your own feminine interests are. And if they're not superficial and you really are into fashion and makeup as 'art' which these women always claim they are, wouldn't you want the moid to similarly share an interest in fashion, at least to a smaller degree so at least he can appreciate the effort you put in?
>>2577377I agree nonna. It always seems to be a specific type of woman, not just any woman with low self-esteem.
>>2577742I'm the OP with the self-harming friend and in her case it's definitely not for leverage, she always acts submissive and 'nurturing' (her words) to these men and talks about how she thinks men should like her because she is so naturally motherly and caring. She says, and genuinely seems to believe, that she is 'picky' and has 'high standards' kek and she always believes these hideous moids are better than her/too good for her while insulting actually attractive moids or moids who put effort into their appearance by calling them cringe and feminized, shallow, boring, or saying they have 'bad style.' She's had a hot boyfriend before who was the only bf who treated her well and she talks about how he was nice but she just couldn't be attracted to him so she had to dump him even though he treated her better than all her other exes. If it was just some misguided attempt at gaining leverage I'd understand, but this type of woman seems actually psyopped into thinking dysgenic hipster moids that look like the stars of cringe teen Ugly Nerd Guy Gets Hot Girl comedy movies are some rare jewel better than other men kek.
No. 2577870
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>>2572383So there are many men on r/bumble who for the life of them cannot figure out why they are getting no matches despite being below mid and putting no effort into their profiles.
But I linked this one because this guy is the same age and is also doing the whole bald head with beard combo despite not being an old man, both these guys are 29. How common is this ladies?
No. 2577943
>>2577845She'd be the pretty one either way! Men are all uglier than pretty women. I think you might have a point about the paranoia regarding fading looks/aging, she definitely is paranoid about that, but it's not like her ugly exes have ever been non-shallow. Two of them turned out to be pedophiles, so she knows they're not safe either. And she's constantly yammered on about how the hideous bridge troll moids she date have so many options and 'everyone wants a piece of them' so she's paranoid about being dumped kek. If she didn't say stuff like that I'd assume her claiming to be attracted to them was a cope, but she freely shows me their pictures and talks about how insanely desirable they are and how they have women throwing themselves at them left and right (which is clearly not true, one of her exes has been permasingle for like 10 years after dating her).
>>2577870It's increasingly common for young moids to be bald, and we've discussed it in the thread before but it's likely due to both hormonal issues and coomerism. Men who are constantly cooming and watching porn seem to go bald really young, but it can also be related to general environmental toxins and hormone problems as well as bad diet and lifestyle. I've seen more and more zoomer moids in their early-mid 20s balding, whereas when I was that age (I'm in my 30s now) it was really rare for men to start balding before 30, even the ones with obvious MPB genes. The way they start losing their eyebrows and having their eyebrows thin out young on top of being bald is also so repulsive. I know people make fun of hatfishing but instead of overcompensating with an ugly beard I wish these moids would just wear a hat or something to look less hideous in public. The bald head + scraggly beard + sloppy dirty tshirt combo is so much worse than men who go bald but remain clean shaven and dress nearly, it just looks like they completely gave up on themselves.
Somewhat related, has anyone noticed how moids seem to rage out at women they find ugly (like especially fat women, but also women with other traits men don't like) for trying to still look clean-cut and attractive, while they themselves will go fat, bald, have acne/wrinkles and start to dress more and more like a homeless man? Do they think that makes it better? They're constantly seething about fat women or women with less attractive faces or acne trying to catfish with makeup, hair and fashion and accusing those women of trying to force men to be attracted to them, meanwhile the moid will be obese, acne-ridden with a homeless beard and dirty stained sweatpants and whine that women are shallow for not wanting to date him? What is it that enrages them so much about ugly women still trying to look neat and professional while they give themselves permission to totally let themselves go?
No. 2578223
>>2577166it's so crazy that the USA spent almost 50 years repressing china and communism only to destroy it's own economy by funneling tons of wealth there through off-shoring manufacturing in just a 10 year period that the country with a governance style that supposedly would never work is speed-running a golden age through all markers of prosperity. it's sucks being the hollowed out generation left holding the bag, but at least china gives back to the world with temu, cumin lamb skewers, slim-wasted hot guys with tons of hair, LADs, the olympic swim team, 4B, the best comedians from an eastern country so far, and great films like an elephant sitting still. i know xhs serves as a portal to show american citizen's what they have lost but it's still nice to get a peak from the outside looking in. i hate the cultural slop america churns out so much. i hate that the only growth industries are just different iterations of drugs, prostitution, and gambling, and i hate the attitude of the american exceptionality self-flagellation of the bald and fat redditors gen x and the boomers sired the most.
No. 2578255
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>>2555277Paul was probably bald, but he wasn NOT a coomer
No. 2578271
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>>2555229I can't unsee the guy on the right as anything other than the character he played as a child in Love Actually. And now he and Elon Musk's ex Talulah Riley got married and she talks about being a "trad-ish wife" on their homestead together drinking raw milk, kek. It looks like a mom taking her son out on a rowboat
No. 2578448
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>>2578223>Only to destroy it's own economy by funneling tons of wealth there through off-shoring manufacturing in just a 10 year period that the country with a governance style that supposedly would never work is speed-running a golden age through all markers of prosperity. Not only that, but destroying many American cities such as Pittsburgh, Cleveland, and Detroit in the process. Also nitpick but 4B is Korean but Chinese radfems are pretty based and similar to Korean ones.
>i hate the cultural slop america churns out so much. i hate that the only growth industries are just different iterations of drugs, prostitution, and gamblingB-but capitalism breeds innovation! When the ethnicity that is known to do anything to secure the bag at all costs with a deep history of oppression leading to overrepresentation in that occupation is at the forefront of the American entertainment industry, it fosters a culture where digital fast food thrives and anything that isn't made with appealing to NPCs to generate the most revenue possible is quickly suppressed. There are exceptions like Breaking Bad and The Godfather, but most of what comes out of Hollywood is literal slop. No wonder I've always gravitated toward anime and other forms of entertainment not from this country, even if there's an abundance of trash in that industry it's not a wasteland like American entertainment is. How does this relate to the UMP? Easy, Hollywood was founded by hideous scrotes looking to make a quick buck without trying, that's why the shilled actors often have traits resembling its founders and current tycoons in the industry, leading to the demonization of attractive men that has permeated the American entertainment industry.
It's ironic, because Americans are fed propaganda at a young age of how terrible China is and that everything from there is bad, without exception. Not that China is perfect, far from it, but they've clearly eclipsed us in many ways that Americans are still huffing copium about. Glory to the CCP or whatever.
No. 2578453
>>2572484Everything Redditors touch turns to shit. I would never sperg about my husbando with a Redditor kek. Also, from what I've seen, they assume anyone who is anti-AI is just an intolerant bigot stuck in the past or something and refuse to understand the
valid concerns about it.
No. 2578457
>>2578453I don't think the issue here is anti-AI people arguing with them, the issue is people think they're insane because they claim to be 'dating' AI for real and act like 'their' AI has a personality, beliefs, etc. Obviously yes this makes them look insane, even to people who are pro-AI.
>>2578271The one time ever that a hollywood actress or model has dated a moid who looks younger than her kek
No. 2578694
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I am so tired of hearing about fugly Pascal everywhere. It should be a crime to host look-alike contests for ugly males, especially when the winner is an even uglier version of the original. I came across this article and they're saying he looks identical down to the mannerisms. The fact that news channels report on this, which in turn fuels the moid's ego, is pitiful.
No. 2578809
>>2578271Things are really bad, he's the one of the few actors who are not disintegrating and with a head full of hair and that I have seen lately
>looks like a ten year oldWe never gonna make it
No. 2578850
>>2578694The moid who won the look-a-like contest is even more walled than Pascal is, and I bet he's younger too.
Reminds me that I have an ex coworker who claims to be bi, but only ever dates moids. She has a thing for Pascal too. I'm so sick of hearing about him.
No. 2579132
>>2578926I searched him and he is taller than I imagined. I thought such suppressants would make them fat just like eunuchs and short too
Frankie Muniz, Daniel Radcliffe and Elijah Wood walled hard so I am not sure if it's actually a thing, but at the same time, they are short, so it might be actually a thing, Hollywood is nasty and demonic
No. 2579557
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>>2579550Gay porn has no trouble finding elf looking moids to take cock up their asses how come multibillion dollar hollywood producers cant do the same as a stingy porn studio
No. 2579589
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>>2557054He literally looks like a game character. Still, I'd prefer moids to look like this than disgusting old wrinkly saggy ball bag John Ham. Normalise men getting plastic surgery, being lean and fit, and being vain.
No. 2579880
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>>2579644How is being married to the guy, with legal protection and a definitive relationship worse than being one of many broodmares - but the one who brags about not accepting child support? He has no liquid cash anon. He can't afford rent. The reason grimes goes out of her way to not accept his money or resources is bc she's dedicated to being the Final Cool Girl. It has nothing to do with sensible planning or even gold-digging, which people find unbelievable but he is truly her male counterpart
No. 2579924
>>2577737Surprised by the lack of 'AS A WOMAN i loveeee ugly fatties!! zomg dad bod yassss so hot' shit, especially on reddit where pickmes and trannies are indistinguishable.
>>2579589Holy fuck great comparison nonna, they look modeled after each other kek. Agreed, I'd rather look at yassified bishies after plastic surgery over ugly balding pigs.
No. 2579984
>>2579858Young moids are fat porn addicts nowadays so they will die first kek
Back in old times the fat ones would go through a diet during training, then they would fight when they lost weight
No. 2580989
Wasn’t sure if this should go here or in the tiktok hate thread
No. 2581011
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>>2581004Kekkk he looks miserable
No. 2584793
>>2579550They're talking about the extras needing to have a certain model look (not necessarily attractive) and because it's filmed in new zealand there's not many people so it's hard to find suitable extras. You're not going to spend a lot on an extra so has to be local. Most people also have jobs so unless you can pay more (being a background characters for 2 seconds definitely doesn't pay much), they're not available to use.
I don't even know where that clip is from and I got all of that from it. Are you socially retarded?
No. 2584908
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emerald if you're out there i love you
No. 2585050
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>>2585040You sound like a pickme
No. 2585080
>>2584908Make this the next thread pic. She’s a fucking queen.
Where did you find this? I bet it seriously pissed some people off kek.
No. 2585236
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>>2584908KEK reminds me of this meme
No. 2585255
>>2585050Not this retard again. Yes women should chase men. Yes women who get picked are pickmes and retards. Yes you should get on both knees and propose.
Go back to your cave now.
No. 2587082
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This twig-bodied Walton Goggins looking man on Love Island is so ugly to me. The girls on the show aren’t even vying for his attention but there are a ton of self-loathing black women on social media who are obsessively shipping him with a black girl contestant who isn’t even interested in him, and they’re being extremely misogynistic toward the girl he actually chose because of the ship. Can’t imagine talking shit about some poor woman online over a guy who looks like this
No. 2588151
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What is in the water?
No. 2588156
>>2588151It's simply soft foods and less breastfeeding leading to weaker jaw development. People barely needed braces 100 years ago, and basically never did 200 years ago.
If you take that guy on the left and his jawline develops properly, he'll look exactly like the one on the right.
No. 2588191
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I keep finding men in their 20's looking like this do you think they are lying about their age or do men faceplant into the wall at 28 its always that age.
No. 2588194
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Another, again is he lying or are younger men just aging that badly now?
No. 2589402
>>2588605Literally everyone, including small children, have crows feet while smiling. That is not the issue with his looks, it's the underdevelopment of facial bone structure and muscles. The 'crows feet' are just because he's squinting/'eye smiling' more than the grandpa, it's not an actual issue. Moids aging badly and being ugly aside, I'm so tired of people looking at any photo of someone squinting or eye-smiling (including women in their 20s) and talking about crow's feet. Crow's feet are wrinkles that are there with a neutral facial expression, that's not what that is. Same with 'nasolabial folds' in photos of women smiling, everyone has those.
As other anons said, the moid on the left is using a phone camera which causes a bloated appearance especially of the nose and cleatly has underdeveloped jaw etc. That is related to food, bf percentage, mouth breathing, and possibly male selection for female neoteny (although you wouldn't expect it to make much difference in 2 generations). The underdeveloped bone structure is largely environmental and dietary. The fear of wrinkles around the eyes and mouth is just zoomer derangement.
No. 2589643
>>2589582You do know that a woman having five times as many men vying for her will not lead to her having five times as many children, right?
>only upper class rich scrotes selected for female neoteny in the past throughout historyDemonstrably untrue and would torpedo your theory even if it was. If rich men are selecting for neoteny, it follows that poor but desirable women can marry upwards. Better living conditions for their kids -> more of them surviving to adulthood -> neotenous women's genes are more likely to be passed on. You would expect the effect you're talking about to be stronger in the past when a poor uggo couple's kids had worse survival chances than a pretty trophy wife's.
No. 2589776
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>>2589582The nobility couldn't select their own mates based on appearance, though, just on lineage. That's how you ended up with modern day royals looked like warmed over dog vomit and the occasional giga chad like Charles II of Spain.
No. 2589804
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I saw this posted on twitter and whilst it's not the first time i've seen a normie woman post such a take online, the response from men continues the same delusional takes. Such takes include accusing the woman of being a lesbian, saying that she is brainwashed by social media into thinking normal men are ugly and in complete denial that their appearances matter and that they are perceived as that ugly. Another retaliation is them claiming women only look good with makeup on, but this is usually countered by other moids who insist the opposite is true.
No. 2589993
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Mad because baldness is preventable but moids still don't take it
No. 2590112
>>2589804Yeah, I saw the stats that men rate most women as average/pretty on dating apps, while women rate most men as meh. I think it has more to do with how much women put effort in their appearance. In my country, in my social cycle, in my age range (YMMV obviously), it's at least:
>Mani, pedi>Makeup daily>Regular exercise>A consistent healthy diet>Hair done daily>Hair colored, styled regularly >A skicare routine>Brows done, colored, maybe micro bladed>Fashion and outfits obviously>Probably lip fillers done>Probabaly visits a beautician once in a while>Body hair removed>Goes to the the gym regularlyAnd I'm pretty sure it's not the compelte list.
While for men it's at best
>May or may not go to the gymThat's all.
I rate most women as pretty and most men as ugly too, and I'm sure it's because more women put effort in keeping their good looks. I see girls with average/meh faces but they still doll up themselves and it makes them look way prettier than they are. I'm pretty sure most of those pretty girls would look average at best if they put as much effort in their looks as men do.
No. 2590326
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>>2590188Her beloved husband kek
No. 2590561
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i found out bill burr has a wife today and now i’m pissed off
No. 2591729
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Saw this on my page and thought it was her father. It's actually her boyfriend…
No. 2591731
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>>2591729And here is what they look like together… What kind of charity work is that?
No. 2592350
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>>2591731No man would ever defend an ugly woman like this. All that and men are still calling her ugly. Pick mes never prosper.
No. 2592354
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>>2592350>flat chest enthusiastSamefag, oh boy I'm so glad everyone is bending over backwards to glaze this obvious lolicon
No. 2593059
>>2588151lack of exercise, shitty hairstyle, shitty fashion sense. It's actually incredible how easy it is for men to change their face shape with just diet and exercise.
>>2588156attributing it to 'breastfeeding' is just blaming women for modern men's lack of discipline
No. 2593078
moid audacity.
No. 2593133
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>>2593078Moids say shit like this and then complain about gold diggers. No I can assure you that 25 year old russian models are not in fact sexually attracted to loaded old geezers. They just put up with sex to get money, it's glorified prostitution. But of course, men don't actually care about the women they're sleeping with being mutually attracted to them. In fact, that's probably one of the least import things to them. Maybe even a complete turnoff if there's zero coercion involved because they're literal hellspawn satanic demons wearing human flesh
No. 2593952
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>>2593941Lara Lieto was 18 years old in 2012 when then 39 year old Adrien Brody started dating her.
Everyone defending him in the comments are women and saying how hot he is. People don't want to talk about this but a big part of why the ugly male psyop exists is because a majority of women are handmaidens.
No. 2594692
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I have a hateboner for this random moid and I’ve posted about him in the punchable faces thread before but he keeps appearing on my youtube algorithm even after I’ve marked his videos as “not interested” and “don’t recommend channel”. That’s because he apparently has three different shitty channels. Anyway, something about his face bothers me so much and it’s a fugly combination of all the stupid shit men do to their faces nowadays. Why the fuck does he have this stupid long mustache that literally covers his mouth while he talks? That’s so fucking gross and it must be so dirty. Why the fuck does he wear the Jeffrey Dahmer glasses? I don’t understand why men do this to themselves. I get that he’s not the most beautiful guy but he could look so much better if he put one single bit of effort. Of course his wife/mother of his child is a pretty fit and well groomed woman with nice hair and skin.
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>18k likes
No. 2594727
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>>2594724David. used to look so good many years ago but moids age like crap. When he stared in The Politician he looked youthful and vibrant.
No. 2595268
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Modern actors in todays films are mostly unattractive but I saw an older movie that made me think of this thread. I sometimes watch older Russian films and "Afonya" ist seriously aggravating. The male lead is completely unattractive, especially compared to the (of course) younger female love interest and is also a complete shithead, liked by nobody, who ignores her for a good chunk of the movie, blowing off her advances, thinking he is too good for her, only gets with her after realizing his life is falling apart and she is and was the only one rooting for him.
Sorry apart from presenting this really mismatched movie couple and ugly man I also had to rant what a shitty movie it is with a horribly unlikable guy getting a lovely girl as a prize in the end. Of course it is presented as romantic too.
No. 2595300
>>2595268>only gets with her after realizing his life is falling apart and she is and was the only one rooting for him.Soooo many eastern european movies and shows have this theme, I hate it. And nobody ever speaks up, even the women who watch this stuff act like it's all so romantic.
>>2588191I think it's true. I saw a balding high schooler once, since then, I believe anything can be possible kek
No. 2595305
>>2595300He has a long time girlfriend in the beginning of the movie who rightfully dumps him after having enough of his antics.
But then girl who could be his daughter of course SaVeS him.
The psyop is truly global.
No. 2595357
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>>2595305Reminds me of a shitty Polish tv show I watched back in the day. Guy in my pic rel gets a woman pregnant (dont remember if he was married or not) and ditches her and her kid. He's an unemployed musician or something. The woman finds some other guy, I don't remember too well, who helps take care of the kid and treats her decent altho he's ugly ans even older too. Then the first moid is having a midlife crisis over turning 40 and comes back when the kid is 7 years old, and the woman leaves the 2nd guy for the useless fuck that left her and her kid. There's also a lifelong lesbian that suddenly turns straight and gets pregnant in case you want to roll your eyes even harder.
>>2595326Slavic cinema is pozzed.
No. 2595488
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I can't understand women who fucked picasso… especially when he was super old. He was always so disgusting and I cannot imagine touching that. Also he had a history of going with much younger women and then dumping them for even younger ones once he got bored, and yet there was also another one who wanted to engage with that. No sane woman would fuck a 80 year old scrote. But ohhhh he was a great artist… female artists never have history of constantly fucking men who could be their grandsons, but countless male artists do. Because women care about "status and personality". Women need to do stop doing this shit
No. 2595581
>>2593952>>2593941>>2593984People tried to shame Taylor Swift and act like she was just as bad as moids for dating a cute 17 year old in her 20s. Idgaf and im tired of the overreacting especially from other women.
I think they think if they go hard at women doing bad things it will make men more self reflective but it fucking doesn't. They dgaf they love being awful.
No. 2595628
>>2595488Picasso was notoriously shitty to women. He was a huge misogynist who bullied all of the women in his life and made several of his partners and family members suicidal.
He was 61 years old and his mistress was only 21 when he told her "Women are machines for suffering. For me, there are only two kinds of women: goddesses and doormats."
His own granddaughter was the first person in his family to come forward about how
abusive he was in her memoir.
"No one in my family ever managed to escape from the stranglehold of this genius. He needed blood to sign each of his paintings: my father’s blood, my brother’s, my mother’s, my grandmother’s, and mine. He needed the blood of those who loved him."
And she said this about the women in his life: "He submitted them to his animal sexuality, tamed them, bewitched them, ingested them, and crushed them onto his canvas. After he had spent many nights extracting their essence, once they were bled dry, he would dispose of them."
No. 2596902
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imagine going through this for some ugly scrote
No. 2596946
>>2596913oh please not this bullshit, and what could they say to this woman who is so deep in her handmaidenry that nothing can snap her out, you've obviously never dealt with those type of women.
Also that subreddit is filled with leftist sex pest moids, pro-ed women, women who unironically call themselves ''
femcels'' and spend all day on 4chan. What do you want those types of people to say to her , the redscare subreddit is the worst place to go for advice since 50% ofits content is snark about dasha and ana
No. 2597020
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This dude’s side profile is so tragic. Old producer scrotes really won’t allow actual attractive men to be on camera, will they?
No. 2597156
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Anyone else believe the "ugly" asian psyop? That western movies cast typically unattractive asian women on purpose.(derailing)
No. 2597162
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>>2567844Moids literally only know one joke
No. 2597186
>>2597156From the top of my head, very attractive Asian actresses that have had success in the west: Lucy Liu, Gemma Chan, Shay Mitchell, Devon Aoki, Phoebe Cates, Sonoya Mizuno, Jennie from Blackpink… I would even argue that most of them were cast in very sexualized roles because of their appearances like Phoebe Cates in Fast Times, Devon Aoki in DEBS and Fast and Furious, Sonoya Mizuno in Ex Machina, the list goes on. I think recently there's been an effort to curb the Asian woman sexualization in Hollywood and the way to do that was to cast not so conventionally attractive Asian women like Awkwafina (which I find really annoying but I guess Hollywood loves her for some reason). In general the only ugly Asian women psyop I believe is that white women are kinda jealous of the rise in popularity of the fetishization of Asian women because of anime (like the Belle Delphine egirl freaks that try to look like anime girls and use Asian aesthetics). There was even a white anon sperging about how ugly Asian women were the other day and the only reason I can think of is jealousy because why would the beauty of a woman of another race bother you so much. Before anyone says anything, I'm not even Asian, I'm from Latam kek
No. 2597189
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>>2597186I feel like Oceans 8 is the only jarring example of the psy-op I can think of. They had their approaching middle age white legacy talent as the beef of their ensemble cast, but were very sure to cast significantly less attractive asian and indian alongside them.
Probably more of a vanity thing on part of the legacy actresses than a psyop.
No. 2597489
>>2597163>and we all know the ethno religious group responsibleInsane how you can't even point this out on the UMP thread without a tranny janny being
triggered over it. I wish there was more discussion on how the UMP manifests across ethnicities, race, and religion but alas the Tumblr-esque rules prevent that. There really needs to be more discussion on how in the west, Jewish men are the #1 propagators of the UMP and they are able to pull it off purely because of capital. They founded Hollywood and tend to be in high paying professions otherwise, with the latter pickmes and broken (traumatized, poor, mentally ill, etc.) women will flock to them because of their capital, but this is found with white men of all ethnicities. The former is much more insidious, because of their chokehold in the western entertainment industry they push actors who are just as ugly as they are, in fact I'd say they played a crucial part in the normalization of ugly men. It's why even non-Jewish actors such as Pedo Pascal often have features aligned with Jewish men; it helps them feel better about themselves, maybe it's even some revenge thing and a way to degrade women further.
It makes me wonder if ugly men in entertainment is an issue that started with Jewish men and they're the root cause of it, spreading their cancer to the western world. East Asian entertainment doesn't have this issue. Not too sure about Bollywood and India though which could prove me wrong.
(/pol/tard) No. 2599502
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I really don't want to come across as racebait(although I'm non white myself). I feel like certain people virtue single about how allegedly attracted they are to african and asian moids, always with exaggerated statements like picrel. but if you look at their accounts, you'll see that it's 90% retweeting about white men, with the occasional hispanic guy. I just find it all so pedantic.
No. 2599590
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Something something men age like wine women milk yadda yadda. And of course there are several older ladies swooning over the 24 yr old.
No. 2600023
>>2599636Even if she looks straight up bad without makeup, just by virtue of being female and normal weight she's still way out of that man's league and he looks like a grandpa whereas she is clearly young. There is nothing salvageable about his appearance whatsoever.
>>2596938AYRT and that sounds a lot like my friend except none of her relationships have even lasted anywhere near that long (though she does get into on-and-off relationships all the time where she goes crawling back to shitty moids years later or hooks up with men she already broke up with casually and then cries that it doesn't convince them to date her seriously again). I also openly tell her I hate the moids she's dating and don't approve but she just keeps talking to me about them as if I never said anything, talking about how amazing they are between crying breakdowns about how they ignore her, use her, abuse her, etc. Not to excuse it at all but at least in your friend's situation there is probably, like you said, sunk cost fallacy because of the length of the relationship to the shitty moid, but with my friend that can't be the explanation because she keeps picking these hideous moids over and over and over again, the same type every time, despite every single relationship failing within like a year or two at most, and sometimes just a few weeks.
No. 2601259
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Alright its me again with more moids under 30 who are somehow perplexed women are not matching with them when they put zero effort into their appearence I sincerely hope not all young men are cooked like this.
No. 2601685
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>>2599502just like the alleged attraction to morbidly obese men, they all want to prove how woke they are because by screaming how they are not attracted to conventionally attractive males.
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No. 2602239
>>2602228Either she's
American Asian or was VERY desperate to gtfo of her own country.
No. 2604300
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Why can't this happen in America?
No. 2604325
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>>2603504Isn't that a TIF? It looks like a TIF lol. Either that or it's like a literal 10-12yo boy.
Speaking of 12yos I was watching some rock climbing videos and a video about this very famous boulderer Chon Jongwon (who is almost 30yo) came up (picrel). I was reading comments and some women were commenting that he's hot, imo his face is not the most beautiful but he's fairly attractive for a 30yo moid and he's obviously extremely fit, the video was him hanging his whole body off a hold with 2 fingers lmao. The comments under these women's thirst comments were all probably geriatric old men raging out about how the women must be kidding or they're pedos because he "looks 12 or younger" and has a "shrimpy childish physique" kek. I never saw a better and more obvious example of moids having a total psychological breakdown at the realization women actually are attracted to fit, youthful looking athletic moids.
No. 2604471
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He's so ugly dear lord this is unreal
No. 2604485
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>>2604471disgusting geriatric piece of filth. i never want to see this man's face ever again, how on earth is he shilled so much? i really miss the times when hollywood at least prioritised young and good looking men in their films instead of some tortoise-adjacent vegetable with connections.
No. 2604514
>>2604471I hate that moid so much and I am starting to hate the pick mes who shill him as a handsome man and spams him everywhere. He looks ugly even for a 50 year old. He is creepy and I hate his persona of pretending to be a nice guy and he is definitely hiding something. Some people say he is in the closet but probably he must be a rapist or a pedo.
The psyop is so hard when he is hired to play a thirty something in Fantastic Four.
>>2602238Bleak. 1920s moids looked handsome and took an effort into grooming but were awful. Moids nowadays look neanderthals and the Vaush phenotype is a blight on all of us. Beards should be banned and fat moids should be sent to a camp until they lose weight. They have no fucking excuse
No. 2604807
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Age gaps are definitely part of the psyop, but this lady is trying to dunk on a redditor for actually being right. Since when did becoming 50 mean that you can’t be in an age gap relationship anymore?
No. 2604825
>>2604807This, especially that men age much worse that women, on average. A woman at 50 can be fully healthy, mobile and shit, but a 64 year old scrote can be a wreck. My grandfather was "only" 11 years older than my grandma and it's shocking how quickly he deteriorated compared to her. If the scrote was 85 would this bitch still think this is totally fine for him to pursue a 50 year old woman? Kek
I saw worse, like both men and women saying that once a woman is 30, age gaps don't matter… really? There'a a huge difference between a 30 and a 50 year old, even 45 year old…
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I keep thinking I've seen the ugliest man in the world only for them to make an even uglier one.
No. 2604853
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>>2604836not really. despite saying men age like wine, they tend to age more dramatically/transformatively considering their hair and musculature drops off (their secondary sex characteristics) and their heads and bellies expand into the old man shape. if you get lucky and pick a guy like Keanu who retains resemblance to who he was in his early 20s then that's the best you can hope for, even as a hot woman yourself.
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Damn, he's crouching out of breath and holding the mic like fucking latter-day Frank Sinatra. 90s Till was a hunk, what happened to this guy..?
No. 2604877
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>>2604866Let's remember the before
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>>2604877Nonna I'm crying, why is this world so cruel :____:
(emoji) No. 2604973
>>2604807I understand why people see age gaps as less concerning past that age because there's less likely to be a power dynamic, but a 12-14 year gap is still a gap no matter how old the people are, and at that age if anything women should be dating down in age if they're still single. Like sure it's not as concerning to have a 12 year age gap in your 50s-60s than in your teens-twenties or twenties-thirties, but it's still fucking stupid for women to deliberately start dating men who are geriatric and will die like 20+ years earlier than them probably.
At least with young women/teen girls who date older men I can kind of forgive their stupid decision because they think older men are more 'mature' or interesting, or maybe have more money and can take them on more interesting dates, but when you're that old you should know better and realize there are no benefits to dating a geriatric moid who isn't even working anymore. What's she gonna do, keep working to bankroll him and subsidize his pension while he lazes around?
>>2604829Lol holy shit. There are so many different ways for moids to look ugly while most women who are 'ugly' are just ugly in the same 3-4 pedestrian ways and typically don't look grotesque and scary. Even women with severe facial deformities usually have soft, kind eyes that most women have while deformed moids usually look like serial killers.
>>2604836It depends how/why he's ugly. If he's ugly because fat or bad hygiene/dress sense/haircut/acne, yes he can probably fix it. If he has a weak jaw or bad teeth there's orthodontics and crowns/veneers for that. But if a man just has a naturally unfortunate physique or face it's unlikely he can be saved. Anyway why would you bother trying to save an ugly man? If he had any self-respect and cared about himself he would already be trying to fix his own ugliness without needing to be told or helped. And men have a much narrower age range in which they can look attractive so if he's ugly during his peak it's unlikely he will fix his looks in time to ever be truly good-looking. Ugly teen boys still have a chance though.
>>2604877He already looked kinda ogre-ish in the face. And I hate those thick necks that are wider than men's actual heads, looks so weird.
No. 2605433
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>make F1 movie
>like 95% of F1 racers irl are 20-35 years old
>cast ugly 61yo hag Brad Pitt as the protagonist (and of course Kerry Cordon who plays his love interest is 20 years younger)
>Damson Idris is 33yo cast as the rookie F1 driver, 33 is pretty old for an F1 driver, never mind a rookie
imagine if they casted a hot guy in his 20s as the lead with an older actress as his love interest. that wouldve been kino. at the very least they couldve paired the 42yo woman with the 33yo man, jfc.
No. 2605437
>>2605433Based on the two actors I was never gonna watch this. Not because of looks necessarily, but personality. One who has a
problematic relationship with his kids and the other who sold his soul for fame not too long ago. Why would I wanna watch this kek.
No. 2605497
>>2605433I can't imagine who would want to watch an F1 movie in the first place but especially not with this cast. Lol in general they really need to stop casting heartthrobs from 90s movies as young upstart male leads in the 2020s, it's getting way too egregious. Brad Pitt, Leo Dicaprio, Joaquin Phoenix, Pedro Pascal, Johnny Depp etc. all need to be cast as grandpas or something.
Imagine if most female leads in movies that have a loveline or are about their athleticism or a 'young person' career or a historical figure who was literally 20 were 60+ years old. Just imagine. Well of course you can't imagine that lmao, even though at the very least a lot of female starlets who were famous for their beauty in the 90s are still beautiful now.
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>>2605433didn't they make this geriatric power fantasy movie already but with christian bale?
No. 2606030
>>2604471He looks so crusty. How can someone with wealth, personal stylists etc look crusty?
Interestingly enough, he never showed up in the "unconventional attractions" thread, he is too ugly and shameful even for the anons who like older men, lol.
Makes me wonder how much astroturfing is behind his fame.
No. 2606057
>>2604471he truly has one of the most punchable faces i've ever seen. smugness is just oozing out of ever pore
>>2604485hollywood is shilling ugly old men instead of sexy ones bc the moids in charge are ugly old men.
they're jealous of chads and more importantly, they want women to lower their standards.
it's part a wideer trend. beauty, grooming, clothing, every standard or men has been going down the drain. now it's acceptable for moids to walk around while fat, bald or with messy hair, unshaven etc. they get to wear sneakers and t-shirts even at formal occasions.
meanwhile women are pushed to look like increasingly pornified sex robots, female celebs hhave to wear lingerie in public, even the women in the current us cabinet now wear instathot makeup and hair etensions, plastic suregry is everywhere etc.
hollywood casting choicces
(see also: old scrote as young napoleon, cute young female elves v. ugly old male ones in rings of power etc) are just a symptom
No. 2606059
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100k likes on this retarded bullshit. At least they pointed out the reverse rarely happens.
No. 2606276
>>2606040AYRT and I agree with you that power dynamics are not the only issue with age gaps, but I think some people only see an age gap as
problematic if it causes a power differential. I think that's why the person in the screenshot said it's 'not even an age gap' if it's past a certain age kek.
>>2606059They forgot the princess and the frog
No. 2606573
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picrel are the actors announced for the live action zelda movie. i’m seething at this casting. he looks fucking inbred.
No. 2606635
>>2606625Sorry but I have to disagree. I spend way more time out in the real world than I do watching TV or hollywood movies and I don't spend time on social media so my perception that women are much prettier than men comes mostly from seeing people in real life, in person. For every 50 pretty or beautiful women there is maybe one pretty or attractive man of a similar age. Especially when it comes to high school aged boys, most of them look awkward while there are many pretty girls that age. After about age 30-35, again, the ratio of attractive men to attractive women drops precipitously.
I'm not a casting director either but I very rarely see attractive men or boys on TV/in movies and especially when casting younger actors you want them to also be good enough at acting (so likely someone with experience as a child actor already) and while it is easy to find beautiful women/girls who are also decent actresses, I think it's harder to find young male actors who both can act and are actually pretty. They should dye his hair blonde for the role though, I hope that's not what he'll look like in the movie.
>they could have definitely found an undiscovered young blonde actor and try to work with him to prepare for the roleI think typically they consider casting total newbies to be a huge risk. I agree they could have cast a slightly older actor but it's kind of nice they cast someone the same age the characters are supposed to be for once. Also natural blonde moids are usually hideous so maybe better not a natural blonde.
No. 2606652
>>2606635Okay outside enjoyer, I'm going off my experience too? I think media has influenced people to ignore or forget less attractive women exist in general.
>For every 50 pretty or beautiful women there is maybe one pretty or attractive man of a similar age. I know there are more pretty women but that's the job of casting directors, to find the hot guys from thousands applying.
>especially when casting younger actors you want them to also be good enough at acting (so likely someone with experience as a child actor already) I doubt Link as a role is really going to require such super emotional depth they could not work with a less experienced male actor to do a good job at the role.
>I think typically they consider casting total newbies to be a huge risk. I agree they could have cast a slightly older actor but it's kind of nice they cast someone the same age the characters are supposed to be for once.Age matters less than looks here, and casting children is in general a nightmare that going a few years older doesn't really matter.
>>2606643I don't really buy this as being such a big deal either they should be able to find someone and then strangle them with their lawyers that they never act up.
No. 2606704
>>2606573For some reason I thought they were going to hire the Jojo Rabbit boy
>me discovering he is 18 nowDamn, time flies.
I just hope they don't get harrassed, especially the girl, since the TIMs will chimp out because Honter didn't get cast and they are extra awful with women and girls. The boy is so ugly though, he looks like a sim from Sims 2
No. 2606711
>>2606689They absolutely had to wrangle illumination to not add any tranny or woketarded shit in the Mario movie. A tight leash on their IP is the only way they'd agree to make it, specially remembering how it worked out for them in the first live action.
Nintendo also hates the competitive smash community and never acknowledges or caters to them. They know the autism that dwells there.
Pretty based.
No. 2606719
>>2606573I feel like the guy will look better with the right type of costume design, make up, editing and filtering.
A wig will cover up the large frame of the face.
No. 2606754
>>2606652I never said less attractive women don't exist, I have no idea where you got that from. I said attractive women are far, far more common than attractive men, and it's incredibly rare for men to reach the level of attractiveness of actually beautiful women. You claimed I only thought this because of media portrayals of men and women, which is why I responded that I don't engage much with media and I believe this due to what people actually look like out in the world.
>that's the job of casting directors, to find the hot guys from thousands applying. It's not though, as
>>2606643 said their job is to find someone safe and bankable who fits the specifications of the people funding and producing the movie. For a big IP like this it's more likely they want to cast someone with a proven track record than a totally unknown actor. I was just curious if you had any examples of young actors who would actually look good as Link, since I rarely see actors that age who could be described as 'hot.' I actually think that actor would probably be considered attractive by the age group the movie is likely geared toward. They likely cast a teenager because the movie is aimed at younger audiences.
>Age matters less than looks hereIt's really hard for fully grown adult men to 'pass' as teenagers, so age is part of looks. We often discuss in the thread how age-inappropriate casting is part of the psyop (trying to convince young girls to be attracted to older men) so I do think casting plausible-looking actors of the correct age range is a good decision.
I guess I'm not getting where the 'hideous gremlin' comments are coming from though, I don't find him attractive like I said but he looks similar to many pictures of teen actors anons posted in these threads as examples of 'cute' moids they used to have celebrity crushes on.
>>2606704He's REALLY ugly kek.
No. 2607011
>>2606991Nothing shows how obviously woman-hating they are more clearly than wanting a movie cancelled entirely because the female character is played by a woman. If troons had it their way we'd go back to Shakespearian times when women weren't allowed to be actors at all so moids played all the female characters.
Also the actress playing Zelda is so pretty and Honter is so ugly, kek imagine him running around trying to play a graceful teenage fantasy elf girl. It's bad enough we have hideous moid actors in male movie roles, we don't need hideous moid actors in female movie roles too.
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>>2607011>facebook boomers typing based transphobic shit right under their full name, address, a list of their close associates, employer's name, and social security numberRemember, sometimes boomers can be a force for good.
No. 2607360
>>2606754I was thinking more in general, not just replying to what you are saying. And media probably has more influence on most of us, like advertising, and being in denial usually strengthens its ability. I do think people can overrate how women are so much hotter than men and it is part of the ugly man psyop in a way, that oh women naturally look that good when it's because women are socialized to care more and men let themselves be slobs.
>It's not though, as >>2606643 said their job is to find someone safe and bankable who fits the specifications of the people funding and producing the movie.I meant that in response to you saying to me to find someone. The lack of new younger male actors getting roles vs. old scrotes constantly getting recasted is part of the problem, very few younger men are let into the fold to make progress towards building careers and being talented movie stars. But hot young women wil keep getting pumped in, can't have women getting too far past 30.
>It's really hard for fully grown adult men to 'pass' as teenagers, so age is part of looks. Do most people really care about Link being a young looking teenager though? Him being blonde seems more noticeable to a general audience. I wasn't thinking that old, I was thinking still early 20s.
>I guess I'm not getting where the 'hideous gremlin' comments are coming from though, I don't find him attractive like I said but he looks similar to many pictures of teen actors anons posted in these threads as examples of 'cute' moids they used to have celebrity crushes on. I personally didn't mean to say he's hideously ugly, he's a kid. But the difference in looks is pretty stark between them. And that's my gripe, this is how it always is now with stories with a male and female lead. Disney movies don't make the princes look good anymore, they're all goofy big nosed guys when the heroines still have to be cutesy and chipmunk nosed. Rest of Hollywood, they have to appeal to scrotes so they need average or ugly men to insert into. Now this casting again plays into beautiful princess vs. an average Everyman. It's exhausting. I doubt this movie will be Mario levels of popularity but it's going to be like 300 million in the box office or something minimum, I bet.
No. 2607494
>>2607360What advertising?
>being in denial Being in denial of the extreme natural beauty of moids? Why is it so hard to find any then? Even on this thread people have a hard time finding and posting actually beautiful men when they're picking between models and celebrities who all put extreme effort into their appearance. Where are all the hot ones hiding?
>people can overrate how women are so much hotter than men and it is part of the ugly man psyop in a way, that oh women naturally look that good when it's because women are socialized to care more and men let themselves be slobs. Even men who are not slobs are still usually mid to ugly (certainly uglier than women of a similar age on average), and even women who are slobs are frequently very pretty. In fact most of the things women do to supposedly beautify themselves make them look less good imo, outside of staying generally healthy. If you go to a college campus where there are plenty of guys who haven't had an opportunity to get fat/bald/wrinkle yet and who stay fit, most of them will still be facially unattractive and many will still not have very nice bodies or hair. Moids could help themselves by caring more but it's not like the ones who do care just magically develop the type of facial beauty that is common in women. And even moids who are beautiful in their 20s rarely stay beautiful into their thirties and beyond while women are often beautiful for most of their lives. It's certainly a creative/hot take though to say that part of the ugly man psyop is not realizing how attractive men actually are kek. I wish there was a hidden army of hot men I just never noticed yet.
Women typically have more facial neoteny, smoother skin, healthier/shinier hair (which they keep for most of their lives instead of losing most of it), more forgiving fat distribution, and are less prone to various chromosomal mutations and illnesses that afflict moids, which is a big part of why both sexes tend to agree and have agreed throughout history that women are the more beautiful sex. Our skulls and noses don't keep enlarging so much as we age and we don't start getting wide waists. For the same reason we find most children and kittens/puppies cute and pretty, we are likely to find women more cute and pretty on average too, even if they don't have stunning bone structure. Media portraying pretty women alongside ugly men may contribute to the modern impression that women are on average prettier, but throughout most of history people believed the same thing even though there was no TV or advertising and even in cultures where men were expected to look ornamental and put-together too. Can you seriously say that when you go outside and look at people on the street you see equally as many pretty/beautiful men as pretty/beautiful women? There are pretty fat women - have you ever seen a pretty/beautiful fat man? There are pretty old women - have you ever seen a pretty/beautiful old man?
>I meant that in response to you saying to me to find someone.I wasn't telling you to cast someone for the movie, I was asking you who you thought would make a better Link because I was curious what your standard is. It could even be a relatively unknown actor or model or something, just curious who you actually think would look better.
>Do most people really care about Link being a young looking teenager though?Yes. It's a movie geared toward children/teenagers, and a character that is noticeably adolescent (or even preadolescent) and androgynous/soft looking in all the games. It would honestly be creepier (and Ugly-Man-Psyoppier imo) to cast a grown adult male as a child character that's probably meant to serve as a heartthrob in a movie directed at underage girls, although I know Hollywood does it all the time. Hair dye exists, I don't think they're going to keep the actor brunette for the actual movie - that would be really strange. Actors change hairstyle for roles all the time.
>But the difference in looks is pretty stark between them.Tbh I don't really think so? The actress is very pretty but in a pretty normal, girl you'd see on the street, conventionally attractive way rather than a glamorous/modelesque way, and the actor looks conventionally attractive by teenager standards to me and I doubt most young girls would consider him 'everyman' looking - have you seen average teenage boys? He even looks better than many of the moids I've seen posted as 'teen heartthrobs' in the UMP threads like young River Phoenix or young Edward Furlong. I agree she's obviously more attractive than he is but I think that 95% of the time I see any woman next to any man and especially next to a boy.
You still haven't actually said what's specifically wrong with his appearance or who you think would look better for the role though so I can't really imagine what it is that you're imagining the Link actor as ideally looking like though.
No. 2607495
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>>2606832You can't find a non-creepy way to say it because it's a bizarre and creepy thing to think. He just looks like a generic teenager.
No. 2607646
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>>2607494>He even looks better than many of the moids I've seen posted as 'teen heartthrobs' in the UMP threads like young River Phoenix or young Edward Furlongyou must be trolling atp. why are you defending the moidlet this hard? he looks like picrel
No. 2607862
>>2607847I think in some tribes the good looking moids outnumber the ugly ones, but I don't think there's really any big civilizations or societies where they do. For the attractive moids to outnumber the ugly ones you need 1. for them to be fit, not have hormonal issues, eat well, take care of their appearance and 2. for women to be extremely selective about the men they date/reproduce with, which patriarchy is dead-set on undermining. One of the main motivations for the way men organize civilizations is to get access to women for men who don't deserve those women/who those women would not freely choose to pair up with.
As for returning to pre-1960s beauty standards (by which I think you mean grooming/dress standards, it's not like men were actually held to high standards of beauty back then), I think it's possible but I don't know how it would happen. It's kind of a double edged sword because standards of dress and grooming have become far more lax for both men and women since then, and I'm glad women are not held to the strict/uncomfortable standards of dress we were back then so we may never go back to that level of formality in dress. But I think women rejecting men en masse whenever they do not dress well and groom themselves would probably go a long way toward solving the issue, which would require more women just accepting being single and not begging for moid scraps. Forcing men and boys to do more rigorous phys ed and changing the adulterated food supply, water, pollution issues might also help with some of their issues. Women having more control over the media would also likely help - in countries (like East Asian countries) where TV shows are mostly geared at and written by women, the standards for male dress and grooming are higher.
No. 2608845
>>2606625Women are way better looking than men on average, this is a known phenomenon. It’s mostly because of resource hoarding, where historically men owned all the property and money and wealthy men were able to choose the woman they wanted and would go for the most attractive ones, and women would choose men based on what they could provide. Now all the ugly bald old looking manlets are a direct result of their hideous male ancestors being able to reproduce just because they had money, when usually those men wouldn’t have been touched with a fifty foot pole.
There are also games where link has brown hair, it’s not that big of a deal. I’m pretty sure the actor is 18 and not mid teens also. I’m just happy that he’s young and looks youthful, I wish they had somehow found a male model who can also act but this isn’t a bad choice in my opinion.
No. 2608872
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>>2606573None of them have elf vibes or physical resemblance to Link or Zelda. Hollywood always has shitty casting, so it was hard to find models who actually resembled them.
No. 2608880
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>>2608872That moid is actually fugly. I think the actress they cast looks a bit more like Zelda than the girl in your pic, although both are pretty. Someone posted this comparison picture in the gender thread and you can see she really resembles the more recent Zelda versions (although it's kinda OT because this thread isn't about how women look).
Also kek only tangentially related but a bunch of nonnies in the gender ideology thread think Honter would have made a good Link.
>>2608845I think he's 16 but there are rumors they want to potentially make multiple movies, so it makes sense they wanted to cast someone young.
No. 2608890
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Every man in the new Superman movie was so hideously disgusting. Of course fat baldies with broken dicks on reddit are leaping at the chance to put James Gunn's obvious self-insert character on a pedestal. As a DC fan it sucks so much remembering what we had back in the CW days, hot dudes everywhere. And now we're supposed to find the human embodiment of premature skin aging attractive?
No. 2608893
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>>2608890wtf is that thing and why does its skin look like it's about to peel off like a snake's outer layer
Nevermind I figured out his name and he looks even worse up close somehow
No. 2608964
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I love how this has made people way more vocal about troons
No. 2609260
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>>2608904Well, he's not supposed to be handsome, just an average guy for comic book readers to SI into
No. 2610052
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The way they reported this so casually is genuinely vile. Everyone looks down on a 60 year old moid having sex with 18 year olds, except when it's in porn with trafficked girls ofc, then it's fine and anything goes!
Nonas can we please collectively curse all old moid perverts? I hate them so much I want to scream. Men over 40 shouldn't be allowed to steal our air.
No. 2610514
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Not even snow is safe
No. 2611029
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Women have stockholm syndrome.
No. 2614272
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>>2599502Late but you are absolutely right and it's something I've thought about myself. A character being black is enough for safe horny woketards who want brownie points for their feigned attraction towards black men, or maybe it's an NLOG thing. I thought I was a racist or some shit for thinking black moids are ugly as fuck based on the media I saw when nope it's just the UMP shilling ugly black scrotes. Anime and eastern vidya has tons of attractive dark skin men.
No. 2614287
>>2611088nta I remember orbiting the fandom and from what I gather he was more like a bunch of teen girls first western exposure to "yandere with a heart of gold" or something, where he would kill nasty men who were mean to Belle behind her back (protective) and also want to "keep" her by any means necessary (possessive) and I think his self esteem was low in the real world (which woobified him) but in the fairytale realm he was a powerful wizard which created a "gap" between his two selves, and then the whole "everyone is fated for one another" plotline tied it all together.
So it was more like the dynamic between the characters rather than what they looked like. I think if he looked better I would've been sold on it more but considering how the rest of the storylines were a bit of a snoozefest, that particular pairing stood out in comparison.
No. 2614327
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>>2614319I was using him as my example of an ugly character. Here's some eyebleach.
No. 2614420
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>>2614272He's ugly but what's sad is that he's the most attractive romance option. The fucking half-giant spider guy absolutely mogs him.
No. 2614440
>>2614272so many artist tables at the con i went to this year had art of gale and fagsterion but none of wyll. where are these people being perfomativly attracted to black characters?
>Anime and eastern vidya has tons of attractive dark skin menif this
>>2614327 is your example im guessing you still hate black dudes
No. 2614466
>>2614440I said dark skinned, not black. I don't know any African or black men (that are hot) in any eastern media off the top of my head. Either way it doesn't change the fact that the black Baldr's Gate dude is ugly as fuck, as is the rest of the cast.
>im guessing you still hate black dudesKek what. Well I do because I hate all moids, not because they're black.
No. 2614534
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The only attractive black guy I can think of from eastern media is Kiros Seagill from Final Fantasy 8. But he's a minor character from an old game so probably very few people remember or know him
No. 2614736
>>2614534I always seen Kiros as a Dravidian Indian, from somewhere like Tamil or Ceylon. He doesn't have the wide lips or nose that's typical of african blacks (mainly west africans), which are the traits that most people don't really find attractive. People always reduce it to black skin but it's not that, you can see albino africans after all.
Also I love Final Fantasy VIII, I'm glad to see it still gets some love online.
No. 2615035
>>2615015I'm the anon who said I liked the character (while not finding him remotely attractive) and he was honestly more entertaining than a lot of the other characters in the show, less sadboi and generally just more of a character that drove the plot forward, but admittedly I didn't get very far into the show. I think you're right that a lot of tumblr husbandos are just a vague sadboi type though, like the whole Sherlock obsession with Benedict Cumberbatch and Martin Freeman (who were both vaguely pathetic characters) or Hannibal fans who saw him as some kind of lonely tragic hero kek. I liked the Snape character when I read the books but then when they cast Rickman in the movies I was like 'oh no he was not supposed to be this… old' kek. I know he was described as ugly and greasy in the books but I had pictured him a lot younger and less hideous.
The one fantasy character crush everyone had when I was younger that made some kind of sense was Legolas from LOTR and looking back Orlando Bloom did not look that good, but at least it was a prettyboy character type with long beautiful hair and clean shaven. Also the guy from The Princess Bride.
No. 2615258
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Why is Pedro Pascal everywhere??
No. 2615323
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did they even watch the show? none of the female characters were attracted to tony soprano, they were with him for his money
No. 2615786
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People in the comments were calling him hot in the present tense.
No. 2615788
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>>2615323Samefag since i want to post another picture, but this reminds me of people seething that the sza big boy song, that was meant as a joke, was being used to describe muscular men. People seem to think it was an empowerment anthem.
No. 2616062
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the obsession with beards and wrinkles on moids has to go. it took leon and dante from me, i’ll never forgive this shit.
No. 2616268
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>>2574989This. I think straight women frequently lie to themselves about what they like, and many of them will settle and begrudgingly adopt the identity of uggo-lovers (even if they don't pretend to love ugly men, they will say they really appreciate 'humor'/'stability'/having anything in common at all), knowing that realistically speaking, they have no chance at a male they would actually be attracted. They have to make a lot of compromises if they want to have a relationship, and attraction is the first criteria to sacrifice, if only because it's so unlikely to find an attractive male. Then they just pick a male they aren't attracted to, but are safe choices, hopefully. They don't want their pet moids knowing the truth that, no, they don't want to fuck a norwooded skinnyfat dadbod beardo, they only do it to have some semblance of a 'normal' life. Males get offended that these women aren't ripping their clothes off and riding them in pure lust, and act like this is using them or whatever, but there's nothing to be attracted to and there's not a lot of options. While I still judge these women, it's hardly any fault of their own. There's just not enough attractive males to go around, and the ugly male psyop is only making attractive males rarer. The only
valid answer is to simply not play the game if every outcome is variations of '… with a male you're not attracted to'. Like maybe you'll be happy… with a male you're not attracted to'. Or maybe you'll be unhappy… with a male you're not attracted to and maybe even murdered by him too. Some women want to a 'normal' life so bad they're are willing to take a gamble on an uggo.
But despite that, there are still a few rare specimens. This isn't speaking anything of his character otherwise, but you learn all you need to know when you're in a group of women and they're all visibly and audibly arrested by the sight of an actually attractive male (as in young, beautiful face and clean shaven, strong and lithe physique with tapered waist and wide shoulders, full somewhat 'long' hair, etc).
It's not something that happens everyday, and in some places, maybe not in months or even years. But I distinctly remember an event like this as a preteen hanging out with my older female cousins and their friends. It's hard to articulate because it's just REALITY. We were hanging out at the mall when a random young (and very handsome) man started talking to one of my cousins, and he offered her his number. It was too long ago to remember what they were even talking about, but I remember everyone else's reaction, which was just silence and peppered with nervous laughter. This wasn't the first time we've been approached by random men, on this outing or others. My cousins and their friends were very bold when this would happen. They would get catcalled by uggos and they would make a scene in response. At the very least yelling back and then a cacophony of laughter at the moid's expense.
So it was crazy to me that this time, it was actually acceptable, and I knew EXACTLY why it was without anyone ever having to explain it. It was the first time these women could imagine possibly entertaining one of these men sexually and it wouldn't be rape, because for once, they don't have to fight the innate disgust that one feels when forced to be intimate with a man they're not attracted to. Instead my cousins and their friends were so excited for the cousin who got the number.
However it was unacceptable to her specifically, because at the time she was dating a 'provider male' who was old and ugly but he had a big-ish house lol. We just called that a 'mature male' back then but same archetype, and she got fucked over the same way every other woman or girl gets fucked over by the same type of moid. She insisted she was only into 'mature men', and before that moment, I might have believed her but I could see it on her face. In any case, she was 'loyal' to the cryptkeeper so she never did anything with it, but it was so telling to me that she didn't shout him down or curse him out or do anything weird with his number. She just talked to him, she wasn't on the defensive. She was smiling and even seemed happy, and she wasn't the type of girl to just smile because it's polite. She didn't even mention she was seeing someone already. And throughout the day I would catch her glancing down at wrist, where he wrote down his number. Maybe she was wondering what would happen if she called that number. Maybe it was a prank. Would it make her a bad person to even contemplate this? Maybe she was just dreading when she'd have to wash it off and was trying to commit it to memory. The other girls would gush about it in the car and throughout the day and even on occasions after that, but she didn't seem as excited as everyone else when he left. I think that was her grappling with her actual relationship and the dissatisfaction. I was a baby lesbian then and I thought the writing on the skin was kind of rude personally, but even then I understood why. He was actually attractive and in her mind at the time, she couldn't do anything about it.
I think it's also quite telling that a few of the girls gushing had boyfriends themselves, and their boyfriends looked nothing like this man. Maybe it's just them being happy one of their girls can maybe say goodbye to the dusty now, but I think it was legitimate joy for her that an ACTUALLY attractive male showed interest, and also maybe that they even exist in the first place. This was the 00s but the woes of heterofatalism are nothing new.
Anyways, the point is attractive males are so rare I'm over here using words like 'events' just to describe encountering one in the wild like it's a shiny hunting in Pokemon lmao. I can think of only a handful of actually attractive male encounter events, but each time, I see a glimpse of something very real in female heterosexuality being engaged. It's very desperate and sad, and in the moments proceeding, or even in the moment itself, you can see the woman rationalizing to herself how this is not meant for her.
Picrel: said cousin's actual boyfriend at the time was described by her as 'a young Sean Connery'. She really liked the James Bond movies because of it. I never met him, but she shown me pics of him, and he didn't look like Sean Connery in James Bond (which is still too fucking old). He did look kind of like this though with slightly more hair and gut. Vomit.
No. 2616295
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>>2614272I've seen similar posts with indian moids, always that feined attraction and funny enough they always use picrel or the men from rrr, men who are considered attractive even in india
No. 2616400
>>2616355I know several women who will simp for ugly moids just because they have long, well-kept hair. The idea that beautiful long hair is 'feminine' has been disastrous for the human species.
I actually like buzzcuts, for example, but only on extremely attractive males who have it all otherwise. The average man is not attractive enough to afford a buzzcut or any other boring short hairstyle. More than women, they could benefit from keeping their hair long. It distracts from other shortcomings. It's almost like a cheat code for attracting women who just want SOMETHING (anything) nice to look at and touch. It's so simple too. You just let your hair grow up and keep it maintained.
The only detriment for them (and the major reason why it's so commonplace now) is that it's more obvious when you're balding, or more importantly, when OTHER men are balding. I feel like this is culturally enforced so that older men who hold most of the political and social still have a chance. While it's still obvious when a male is geriatric, when everyone has short hair, the difference between an older male with a history of bad life choices and shitty genetics and a fresh, young, prime age male is less overt.
Even then, you can see when a hairline is receding or thinning, but if young men aren't capitalizing on these attractive traits, there's less competitive pressures for post-wall scrotes.
No. 2616463
>>2616400I agree with all this. I think the hatred for long hair on men is largely just an element of the UMP pushed by older and balding moids to reduce competition, like you said, and to generally not cast them in a bad light, though there is also an element of this that just comes from military and 'uniform man' culture where it became a marker of masculinity at some point in the 20th century and men just clung to it for way too long. So many moids are deathly afraid of looking too pretty or attractive because they think it looks 'gay' which ironically just makes it so much easier for the few men who aren't afraid of that to get female attention even if they're otherwise mid to ugly kek. A lot of moids I know started growing their hair out around age 30 and suddenly got a lot more female attention even if they were otherwise aging and getting uglier, just because they have 'good' long hair. If you have one good feature like that it will automatically attract attention when most moids have zero good features. I also think this is why some men who have earrings or whatever get automatic points from some women, because at least it's a 'risk' they're willing to take to do something considered feminine or ornamental that shows some care or individuality.
It's funny how much conservatard moids will often seethe over things as simple and normal as other men wearing a necklace or bracelet because 'that's for women' but really I think they're just jealous that some moids aren't as fucking insecure as them and get attention from women for actually trying in some extremely minimal way. Same with the freakouts about men wearing 'purses' (like just normal bags) kek, they prefer for everyone to walk around with bulging pant pockets carrying 20 things and looking like a dad I guess.
No. 2616492
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Sorry to assault nonas' eyes twice today but someone posted the live action HBO Lestat elsewhere, and I can see why they waited until Anne Rice died to release it. If my gay vampire husbando got turned into this, I'd haunt the casting director's fag ass until he died of AIDS.
No. 2616509
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>>2616062Reminds me of this.
No. 2616529
>>2616522Lol I expected as much because the girls customisation looks like the standard Arthur from that game.
>>2616524Exactly, all this shit men say about women hitting the wall at 25 is projection and believing beards make you super manly and irresistible to women is insane cope on their part.
No. 2616652
>>2616632Arthurfag crying was in one of the first threads, i was there, kek, but i didn't know there were several. You meant this edit
>>1960640? Here's the infight with the Arthurfag
>>1961440 if anyone's interested, kek
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>>2616463My mother is like this, and she forced my brothers to get buzzcuts their entire childhoods. My father was military and she really likes that look, so she put that tragedy on them growing up kek. They were hideous like that, and now they both keep their hair longer than shoulder length, for obvious reasons.
I wonder how much of the practicality (that's usually what I hear when these types of moid try to justify it) is just more balding cope from moids who glorify the militant aesthetics. Like on the surface, it seems reasonable, like long hair does require care to not be greasy and nasty, it doesn't catch on thing or is grabbled, and historically speaking it's
valid, at least in Europe for certain periods of time. But it wasn't like that in all time periods in all places of Europe, and there's something I noticed as well. It's always most prevalent in countries with more balding in general.
For example, the most bald countries are usually Western countries, with the first East Asian country on this list being Japan.
https://medihair.com/en/statistics-47-countries-with-the-most-bald-men/Japanese men, historically, didn't do the warrior's buzzcut despite its suppose practicality. But they did style their hair in uggo ways, like the samurai of the Edo period are know for the very goofy chonmage. This isn't practical for warriors, and it certainly isn't attractive to women. This has to be a self-nerf to appease your social betters. It does serve the purpose of uniformity however, like you said. That was certainly the purpose some people had when it came to branding their male slaves as slaves. In early French history, only the Merovingian kings were allowed to have long hair, and the serfs were forced to cut it as a sign of their lesser status. A dethroned king would have his hair tonsured. It's somewhat irrelevant to be honest, but I do think it's worth noting short hair has also been a symbol of submission, and to another man no less.
I do wish we would get rid of this pathetic survival mindset bootlicker moids still circlejerk to. The idea of male = practical, utilitarian, UGLY goes beyond… everything, I don't even have words for how bad it is now. I think the military glorification is part of it, but at least in the West, I think maybe it goes further back to the Great Male Renunciation. You could argue it goes back even further, but the genealogy of these shitty memes is messy and kind of just an unnecessary anthropological exercise. When it comes down to it, it seems like unspoken centuries of UMP to me, plain and simple.
Though maybe it's just my raising talking… I almost miss the military look if only because it came with the idea that fat is weak and sloppy and your face should be clean and neat. It's like modern man kept the idea that hair should be short because it's supposedly 'masculine'/militant, only to get rid of some of the positives that made it worthwhile to women, like being fit and clean-shaven. Now they have short hair AND beards AND the estrogenizing effect of obesity.
It's like every new social movement they promote or usurp is only to give them more excuses for being hideous, boring slobs. They retain the classic ugliness that was acceptable, and then give themselves more permission to be ugly in new ways. Beards are more acceptable now as 'masculine' because they are rejecting militarism in favor of a more natural lifestyle (all these hippie and hippie-adjacent moids originally, now adopted fully by conservative country boy moids), as is having extra 'bulk' (which is almost always mostly fat and little muscle). They took over the body positivity movement entirely for their own purposes. I still see women doing 12 step skin care routines, getting lip fillers, and doing anorexia diets from the early 2000s in 2025. And all the while obese loser moids just co-opted the body positivity to express why they deserve a girlfriend because of their 'good personalities' and call in the handmaiden defense force at the same time. It's so tiresome. I don't even have to mention how they wrecked feminism.
They do this with everything, and it's no great conspiracy. It's just that moids instinctively know how to extract the most value while contributing the least.
All these things are easy to do. Like growing out their hair, adorning themselves with jewelry (or styling themselves in general)– these are not difficult, they just take a little more effort than they're willing to expend. It's like they all know if they are ALL (or even just in general) shitty, eventually most women will give in and accept it there is no other option and to stop hoping for better. They just have to show up and do the bare minimum, no matter how attractive they are. And we see this now. Very depressing for straight girls who want to get married and have children.
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>>2616529I hate the beard thing so much because in a way, they're not right, but they're not exactly wrong either. Beards are unattractive and usually pretty filthy, but men with ugly faces benefit from donning the built-in burqa that a beard represents. I don't like them, and handsome men always look better clean-shaven, if only because you can see more of their face (besides also just being more hygienic), but ugly moids might actually gain from hiding their ugliness, though I would prefer if they just wore masks. They're lying to each other when they pretend women actually prefer it. We don't, but if you can hide a recessive chin, weak jawline, and shitty skin, a woman might actually give them a chance, not knowing what bad genetics lurk underneath.
So I almost hate it in principle more than plain disgust. It's so normalized it's getting harder for women to know just how busted a moid is for real. If I were dating men, I would disqualify every male with a beard based on that factor alone. I have a friend who loves beards (sad), and I at least insist she gets any mood she's interested in to shave it JUST ONCE if only to see what she's working with. It's like makeup for scrotes except it makeup takes money, time, and effort, and beards are a dearth of all those costs except for time. Moids with beards often don't even use all the gay little beard products to keep them neat and clean. It's just the norm (at least where I live) to have a nasty, scraggly, unkempt beard that only gets washed whenever they bother to shower.
>>2616705I have a friend who is EXACTLY like this, but in the millennial ex-tumblrina way instead of a more normie or boomer way. It's a pooner-esque (she's not trans though) admiration for I suppose 'daddy' features, since she has pretty bad daddy issues. She would never phrase it that way but her dad is a a drug-addicted loser with no self-control and never protected her from her violent, narcissistic mother. I think these are also traits she wishes to embody herself. Rugged, independent, gives zero fucks, can fight back when the need arises.
But even if it's like this weird girl attraction, I think the principle might be the same for normie women and boomer women who do the same thing too? Like I know boomer women who also simp for 'rugged, masculine' moids, and to some extent, I think they're being mindful of their age and defaulting to the cultural norms they grew up with, but the ones who are the most virulent in their hatred of 'elegant, feminine' men and their love for masculine scrotes tend to fall in this pattern regardless of age. They had shitty parents, usually the mother is shittier for whatever reason, and they want to be protected from the instability of their life. So they project these heroic attributes onto 'masculine' moids who claim to have them. Like they assume that they have a penchant for violence and will use it on their behalf.
This same friend is now dating a man, but he's nothing like the male characters and actors she gravitates towards. He is balding and has a beard, but he's a scrawny IT twerp. Still, she ascribes 'dangerous' qualities to him because idk ig she claims he's a hacker and he's sooper smrat and has anti-social personality disorder and oooh maybe he would kill someone (on her behalf of course). She's in love with him, but I think it's because she's created this fantasy of him being some kind of dark protector. I think a lot of women who do this really want to believe males like that will protect them from violence instead of of you know, being the perpetrators. If it's not their violence, it's that they lack it entirely, but that's less grizzled and rugged moids and more for the quirky, sloppy moids. The two are easy to mix up due to the dishevelment of both. It depends on if the woman's ideal is disheveled in a grizzled way, or in a 'fun' way. If it's the 'fun' way, it's usually because they are very afraid of their potential partner being someone who could hurt them and think a non-assuming chubby slob is harmless. The grizzled way in my experience seems to highly correlated with desiring a savior, one that they can't imagine could ever come in the form of a man who preens. It doesn't help that a lot of moids who have that 'grizzled, rugged' look often profess that they have these 'masculine' virtues (protective, providing, efficient, skilled, etc) and idolize them themselves, and insecure women really want to believe that their words are reflected in their actions.
In a more general sense, as cliche as it is, I think some of these women just have low self-esteem and are poopooing the sour grapes. They don't feel those males are attainable so they don't want to even entertain the idea, but they do know what is attainable and want to signal their virtue (and low self-esteem) to them. It also goes hand-in-hand with my first hypothesis. Childhood trauma creates a lot of confidence and self-worth struggles.
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>>2616734I wouldn't be surprised if it was that or that his family just has a lot of connections to the Hollywood elite. His parents are literally from aristocratic bloodlines with several political ties, including the socialist president of Chile before Pinochet started helicoptering people. They sure af left then, and then they came to the US to start up a fertility clinic where they committed tax fraud and literally stole embryos and implanted them in women without their consent and knowledge. I imagine that kind of skill and lack of ethics must be pretty useful to people with a lot of money, influence, and not so many scruples.
No. 2616818
>>2616652Kek I forgot about that unhinged Arthur-defending 'you're all pedos' post thanks for linking it nonna. UMP in a nutshell but homegrown. Who on lolcow is like 55 or however old that moid is supposed to be? I'm not young for a lolcow user and he looks my dad's age.
>>2616702At least your brothers grew their hair out once your mom stopped making them get ugly haircuts. Sadly most moids never grow out of it and become almost pathetically afraid of letting their hair grow long, of wearing a nice fabric or a bracelet or something as if they would get harmed just by looking slightly better.
>I wonder how much of the practicality (that's usually what I hear when these types of moid try to justify it) is just more balding cope from moidsI think most of it is cope. I encouraged my now-bf to grow his hair out when we were teenagers because he couldn't afford haircuts and I kept giving him haircuts back then as poor college students (I like cutting hair and cut my own hair, my mom's hair, etc. too). I was getting annoyed having to cut his hair like every month or two so I told him to just try growing it out, and ever since he has kept it long both because it looks better but also because it is more convenient. It's not so long it takes ages to dry or style but with longer hair you can still put it up if you really need it out of your face and otherwise it's very manageable and needs to be cut and styled far less than shorter haircuts which actually require constant upkeep. Even my uncle who has had a buzzcut his entire life buzzes it like every couple weeks and it's always this big routine that takes hours and gets hairs all over the bathroom, and that's the easiest haircut ever. For short male haircuts more elaborate than a buzzcut the upkeep is constant to keep it looking decent. Longer haircuts were preferred throughout history because they are actually easier to maintain, as long as you still have hair and keep generally good hygiene.
I'm not sure about the origins of the hideous Samurai haircut, but the Manchu haircuts (queues) in Qing dynasty China were exactly what you were saying - they were basically a way for Han Chinese to appease the Manchu invaders, and it was seen as something of a humiliation ritual for Han Chinese to keep the half-bald head. That was probably an element in many of the ugly haircuts that various cultures forced men to keep. There are many cultures in which hair cutting was seen as a humiliation ritual not just for women but for men too, like in many Indian subcultures/religions, many historical East Asian cultures and some European cultures as well. Probably others I'm less familiar with also.
>I do wish we would get rid of this pathetic survival mindset bootlicker moids still circlejerk to. The idea of male = practical, utilitarian, UGLY goes beyond… everything, I don't even have words for how bad it is now.It's also incredibly stupid and unnecessary in modern societies where people are living more cushy and lavish lifestyles than almost anyone did any time in history. Like I can't really think of a time period where extreme militaristic practicality was less necessary for your average person than it is now. We pretty much all have access to hot running water on a daily basis, to soaps and shampoos, a majority of jobs do not require much physical exertion let alone constant travel/rough sleeping, and that's true even in many poorer countries now let alone wealthy countries. Clinging to some like WWI-WWII trench warfare norms for male grooming is incredibly bizarre in countries like the US or Western Europe where the average moid is so sedentary and well-fed he's overweight to obese kek. Like if there were ever a time when moids from the middle and lower classes don't have to dress and groom themselves in an ultra-utilitarian way, it's now.
>I almost miss the military look if only because it came with the idea that fat is weak and sloppy and your face should be clean and neat.I get this (my grandpa had a forced military background and he was very fastidious about dress and grooming his whole life) but it's like moids only kept the ugly elements of military culture and got rid of all the good ones, like a clean shaven face, fit body and general neatness/taking care of their clothing. If the average moid now actually looked like men in uniform looked in the 1940s it wouldn't be that bad that they keep their hair short but that's not the reality. Even teen/early-20s moids now are often either skinnyfat or fat and dress sloppy and have terrible hygiene.
>It's just that moids instinctively know how to extract the most value while contributing the least. I think this is exactly correct. They will always take the path of least resistance while trying to push women onto the path of most resistance to please themselves. Then they vilify and act disgusted by simple acts like wearing a nice watch or necklace or ironed shirt because they know if it becomes normal, they will have to raise their own effort level that tiny little bit, so they pretend to be horrified by the 'gay' behavior of men who put effort into looking vaguely attractive to women.
No. 2616828
>>2616509There was a better version of this where guys' arthur was bald and womens' had longer hair
>>2616521Not completely. He will always have a beard shadow. It's something more and more games have been doing, not letting you have completely clean shaven look. Weird, because i even saw moids asking about having arthur clean (very few, but still)
>>2616702My friend has a son and one time she mentioned how she needed to get him a haircut when his hair wasn't even touching half his forhead. I asked her why, she should let him have hair while his able (his dad and both grandpas are valding, so it's not looking good for him) and she told me nobody in her family or his (men and women even) wants him to have longer hair because it looks stupid or some shit
No. 2616830
>>2616529I will never forgive hipsters for what they have done
Emo/scene had moids putting effort
>>2616062Is it retarded to hope that unwalled leons popularity will make capcom reconsider making dante cute again? Vergil looked good in 5
No. 2616857
>>2616750I have never in my life dated a moid with a beard and if I'm ever single and dating again, I will never date a moid with a beard. To me it actually is - like you said - similar to a moid wearing niqab or something. I actually think I could deal with a bald man more than I could deal with a bearded man, because at least a bald man has a chance of having a nice face and head shape, and you can actually see their entire face when you're looking at them. The most I can deal with is slight stubble where you can still see their facial structure, but that seems nasty and painful to kiss. I had a massive crush a few years ago on a male friend who subsequently grew out a beard and whenever I see him now I feel like I'm peering through a fog trying to identify the face that I remember him having and remember being cute, and kind of forget what he actually looks like. It's extra stupid in that friend's case because he actually had a very good jawline and nice mouth and cheekbones, so I have no idea why he did it, but none of my business I guess I'm not romantically involved with him so he can do what he wants. But I would never give a bearded man the time of day ever.
Only semi-related to attractiveness but I was watching some ragebait video posted in the youtube hate thread by some nonna who claimed the man in the video was 'extremely handsome' and the moid (not handsome imo) had a beard and at like 10 different points in the video was filming himself with obvious food stuck in/dribbling down his beard. I have seen moids in public out with their girlfriends with food in their beards too and every time I see it I want to die it's so disgusting, and I feel so sorry for their poor wife/gf that has to walk around with some oversized preschooler with food visibly dripping down his face. I literally can not imagine how disgusting and unhygienic those things must be. Not to mention they always find fecal matter and shit in moid beards, probably from flushing toilets with the lid up or not washing their hands after using the toilet and then touching their beard hairs. Repulsive. Then they kiss their gf and give her rugburn and acne on her face because they're agitating her facial skin with spiky hairs covered in food and fecal matter. No amount of 12-step skin routine will prevent that shit from fucking up your face if you date a man like that.
>they project these heroic attributes onto 'masculine' moids who claim to have them.The stupid thing is though that a moid being lazy and unkempt ('rugged' looking) has nothing to do with whether he has actually masculine or protective personality traits, and if anything, I would assume a moid who looks unkempt also lacks self-discipline and self-respect so is less likely if anything to be a good protector figure. There's no reason to assume a big fat lazy dirty moid would either be willing or able to fight for you better than a young disciplined attractive and fit moid. I understand women being put off by men who seem too 'precious' with their appearance since they can seem narcissistic or gay but that's really not what's happening here.
>he's sooper smrat and has anti-social personality disorder and oooh maybe he would kill someone (on her behalf of course)The person an ASPD moid is most likely to kill is his romantic partner or child or someone else defenseless. Your friend is retarded sorry.
I know this is kind of OT, but as a woman who is kind of into fashion and aesthetics but also kind of a tomboy and 'low maintenance' there are a few very simple, cheap and easy things that I know will make me look good no matter what. I just learned these through experience and trial and error but now they take so little time and are so near-effortless that I can get ready for even a fancy event where I need to look extra-good in like a few minutes outside of showering/hair washing. I find it hard to believe moids could not do the same, like just take some time to figure out what suits you and learn like 2-5 tricks or hacks to make yourself look better and do them whenever you want to look decent. Like if a moid has a good chest/collarbone region, unbutton the top button or two of your shirt and wear a simple chain necklace, if you have wavy hair use a sulfate-free shampoo and scrunch it out of the shower, if you want to look more put together add a nice belt to your pants and tuck in your shirt, get a clean shave in the morning or use a moisturizer. Just very simple things like that can make people including moids look 10x better as long as they learn what suits them and what makes them look better. It does not have to be some insanely laborious process to look slightly better and more put-together especially considering how little effort the average moid puts in, so I just don't believe it's actually hard. Even simple things like learning what colors and cuts look good on you will pay off forever as long as you always buy those colors and cuts of clothing when you go shopping. A moid could buy one single accessory like a necklace or ring and already look more 'elevated' than 95% of other moids by just wearing the one jewelry item every time he wants to look good, since most moids wear zero jewelry. Learning what kind of bangs/hair part frame your face best. Using chapstick if you have crusty lips. Like literally anything.
>>2616828Boymoms sabotaging their sons before they can even get one girlfriend is something else kek.
>>2616830Some hipster trends were actually good, like a lot of hipsters were into long hair + clean shaven or at least very trimmed/neat moustaches beard unlike whatever zoomer pedostache/grandpa beard horror plus fade haircut is popular now. But I think hipster trends got worse as the typical hipster got older. Some zoomer trends are terrible though, I just saw an entire pack of zoomer moids walk by in the park earlier and every single one had that comical broccoli haircut, sweatpants pushed down so their boxers were showing, and those ugly Yeezy knockoff shoes kek.
No. 2616862
>>2616836I don't get how easily moids get broken by being told they look bad considering they put no effort into looking good. At least when women have their self-esteem crushed by being told they look bad it's usually because she was actually trying to look good beforehand and feels embarrassed the effort she put in didn't pay off. If a moid puts no effort in why is he so shocked women don't find him attractive kek?
I also noticed the moids I knew who put effort into being attractive were less smug and less likely to assume they actually looked attractive, it's like the most obviously ugly ones have the highest self-esteem about their looks. Like the moids with perfect bodies and hair will have low self esteem because 'my nose is wide' or something but some fat 5'6 bridge troll with cystic acne who never showers is shocked he isn't considered god's gift to women. I don't get moid psychology.
No. 2616881
>>2616862Probably because they buy into the idea that looks don't matter as much for men as they do for women, then they get the wake up call that women actually care. We've been brainwashed since little that looks matter for us and need to make effort to look good, but we need a "good" man.
The guys who are actually attractive and well groomed are almost always labelled gay and made fun of, because the ugly scrotes are a majority and vocal. That's why some really good looking ones grow beards for example, they're bullied into it, to look "manly" and told that clean shaven they look like boys and younger. As if that's a bad thing kek. I've seen it happen. There was a post on social media a while ago of men trying beardless filter and some looked legitimately better, yet they were all "i look like q child, i look bad". These idiots really have no fucking clue what women like then get mad about when we explicitly tell them we do not like whatever they're brainwashing each other into thinking we would like.
>>2616857I love beard haters itt. I'd rather stay single than date a bearded moid.
No. 2616895
>>2616881>That's why some really good looking ones grow beards for example, they're bullied into it, to look "manly" and told that clean shaven they look like boys and younger.God this reminds me, when I was in high school jazz band there was this other jazz musician from another school who was like I think 1-2 years younger than me but was kind of a prodigy, and he was really cute so I had this long-distance crush on him from seeing him play his instrument at various band festivals. When I was already an adult on summer holiday I went to his school's final concert because a bunch of my other close friends went to the same high school, and he was getting some award and the teacher giving the award went on this whole rant about how he is the envy of every other highschooler because he can already grow a beard even though he's only 17. I remember being so horrified like wtf why would a 17 year old grow a full beard, he didn't have it at the concert but I looked up some social media pictures after we became friends later and I was like 'wtf.' Like he looked like a male model but ruined his face with this shitty beard from like age 17-22 or something when he would have been most attractive, but it was literally a point of pride other teen moids 'envied' that he could grow it. I didn't understand it at all. What better time to enjoy looking youthful and boyish than the very brief time when a man can actually look youthful and boyish?
It's the stuff of nightmares to me imagining a scenario of dating some cute man with good facial structure and one day he decides to wake up and grow out a beard to look 'masculine.' Jesus christ. Moids say this shit like it's a horror story about their gfs/wives gaining weight or something and it's like, well yeah but she will still essentially look the same just a few pounds heavier. Or maybe she'll cut and dye her hair a bit but look like the same person. If you grow a beard you don't even look like the same person, your face isn't even visible.
It's especially egregious when you think about how horrified moids are by women not shaving their pubes/leg hair/armpits or something even though it literally doesn't matter, but they'll act like it's some horrible unhygienic caveman thing for a woman to have a few short hairs on her legs meanwhile they're willing to subject their girlfriends to having to kiss poop beard rug while half their face is occluded. It doesn't even come close to being as much of a non-issue as having pubes or hairy armpits or something yet moids will act like delicate flowers about having to see female armpit hair or pubes while growing a whole thicket on their actual face, the part of your body that is the most identifying and that other people look at every day all day.
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>>2616702Isn't that hair from a haircut for wearing a helmet comfortably? In other words it was aristocratic/warrior, and that filters down to the rest of society. What you think looks good is more a matter of culture than you seem to think. It was very popular for a long time and only because unpopular because of Westerners.
Also, the military association used to be the opposite
Amateur 18th century artist
>Self-portrait of Lieutenant Gabriel Bray sketching in watercolours [Bray album] No. 50 of 74 (PAJ1976 - PAJ2049) A drawing, dated and signed on the backing sheet 'April 75 AVprGB' (to the life by Gabriedl Bray), of Bray drawing an image of a cutter at sea from memory. This and PAJ2024 are the two self-portraits in the Bray album, this one being a good illustration of the equipment of a watercolourist of the period. The scene of both is perhaps more likely the ship's wardroom rather than Bray's sleeping cabin, which would have been very small, and both would probably have been done using the mirror shown in PAJ2024. Bray is also sitting on the same chair, or one of the same pattern, to that shown in his portrait of another of the ship's lieutenants (PAJ2017). Bray (1750-1823), was second lieutenant of the 44-gun ‘Pallas’ under Captain the Hon. William Cornwallis (1744-1819) No. 2616938
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>>2616935>Self-portrait of Lieutenant Gabriel Bray shaving [Bray album] No. 49 of 74 (PAJ1976 - PAJ2049) Dated and signed on the backing sheet 'March 75 AVpGB' (to the life by Gabriel Bray). This is one of two such self-portraits in the Bray album, the other showing him painting in watercolours (and probably using the same mirror) being PAJ2025. Both also show the long hair which men of the time could favour, usually tied back into a queue (pigtail) with ribbon among sailors (and soldiers) and powdered white in formal circumstances.Hair unbound probably for washing or sleeping. Seems they spent a lot of time on it.
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One more by Bray
>Dated and signed on the backing sheet 'April 75 AVpGB' (to the life by Gabriel Bray), this may have been drawn on the 'Pallas's transatlantic leg from Africa (whence they sailed on 4 April 1775) to Barbados. The view is almost certainly on the starboard side of the main-deck forward hatch, under the companionway, with the starboard anchor cable going down to the tier below. From his apparent headgear the seaman shown and the man seated on a sea chest with a tankard in his hand, far right, are probably Marines. The man in the centre is sewing an item of clothing. See also PAJ2031 which appears to show the port side of the hatchway.
A marine not in full dress maybe? Maybe the headwear is where the hat sits. Bray's ability to depict faces is quite limited but most others things are nice.
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>>2616935nta but according to Wiki the topknot helped secure the helmet, the bald patch had nothing to do with it and signified class/serving a lord. See picrel, Ronin who did not serve a specific feudal lord didn't have to shave the top. There were other class and imperialist/colonialist connotations to both face shaving and various levels of shaving/cutting the hair.
This tracks at least with my knowledge of other historical cultures, where there was usually some sort of class reason for hair cutting/shaving, or it had something to do with cultural assimilation in many cases. That doesn't mean it's partially culturally bound because of course it is, but having long hair was quite normal for men in many, many cultures historically and it is quite a recent development that men feel emasculated by having longer hair.
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>>2616944Sorry for posting too many but
>Mr James Cornwallis>James Cornwallis was probably a cousin of 'Pallas's' captain, the Hon. William Cornwallis. He was rated as a master's mate on this voyage on which two other aristocratic Cornwallis connections also served; the Hon. Thomas Pakenham, rated as able seaman, and Lord Charles Fitzgerald, a brother of the Duke of Leinster, who was rated midshipman. James Cornwallis became 'Pallas's' second lieutenant in 1776, a captain in 1781 and died in 1790 but little more is known since he did not live long enough to gain an entry in the standard naval biographical dictionaries. This drawing shows him looking at Bray's sketchbook, specifically at a drawing of a seaman carrrying a hammock which may be PAJ1989 before watercolour was applied.I think this hairstyle is unusual in that the fringe is cut short. Bray's isn't like that and I don't think this style usually does that. Or maybe it's more common they're just wearing a hat over it in depictions.
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>>2599502Oh god I didn't think posting that guy on /g/ would start this entire discussion here. If it helps I'm not trying to virtue signal, I'm a black woman.
No. 2616977
>>2597156Men desperately want this to be true when the reality is that
veeeeeeery few women give a single fuck about desirability politics kek
No. 2616992
>>2616975Nonna if you can stand to, for womankind tell your decent looking male acquaintances verbatim
>you will never look this young again (looking young is a good thing)>you will miss the phase where you can actually look good if you look like an old man nowThankfully I only know like 2-3 otherwise attractive moids who grew out beards, but it confuses the shit out of me when one of the rare moids with 8/10+ facial structure ruins it with a beard. I at least theoretically get it when a guy with a weak jaw or no lips does it, he thinks it will hide his ugliness, but why would the exceedingly rare attractive male do it? When women who could be beautiful make themselves ugly on purpose it's usually some sort of sexual trauma or deliberately avoiding male attention, but I've never met a moid who deliberately wants to avoid female attention so I can't explain it.
No. 2617053
>>2617015AYRT and at least with the friends I'm thinking of it was definitely not due to negative attention from other moids, almost all the moids in our mutual friend circles are clean shaven and they're not in any weird gymbro communities. But I agree that in general moids are sluts for male validation and male validation/opinions are often what drives them deliberately aging/hypermasculinizing themselves. I genuinely don't think that was the case with my hot friends who grew beards though, since it's very abnormal in our social circle for men to have beards (thankfully).
>>2617023It often is, yes. Moids will insist that anything other moids do to beautify themselves or make themselves more attractive (other than roiding and gymmaxxing until they look like red sweaty cystic acne covered roidpigs) looks faggy and gay and effeminate. And it isn't exclusively straight men who do this either. I've known a lot of gay men who insisted my (somewhat feminine looking) boyfriend or other pretty male friends I've had 'must be closeted gays' and kept trying to 'turn' them kek. I was the one who convinced my bf to grow my hair out but at least 3 of my gay friends told me he must be secretly gay because his hair is long and that's a 'gay tell' guys get to signal being gay to other men. Like even gay men have a hard time understanding that some straight men actually want to look attractive for women.
>>2617044I would definitely believe this, some moid communities are awful with bullying attractive men into line. Total crab bucket mentality. The other men tell them they're more 'respectable' looking washed up and old but it's actually just
toxic moid jealousy that their friend has an acceptable jawline and they don't.
No. 2617068
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Quentin Tarantino. I am truly ashamed I ever found him attractive growing up. While I do still like his films and influence, he himself is so cringe and disgusting to me now. What turned me against him was hearing how it was a "well known thing" in Hollywood that women knew to wear short shorts and sandals to audition for his films. It turned his whole foot fetish from "ew thats creepy" to "ew this scrote is abusing his power and friends with harvey weinstein". Yeah. No thanks. Also the fact he thought he could say the N word and talk with a "Blaccent" because he was friends with Samuel L Jackson is extremely cringe and makes his cameos hard to watch.
No. 2617096
>>2617061I believe you anon, but at least I understand why moids with receding weak jaws think it would help. Idk if it ever does but I understand wanting to hide your insecurities. I don't understand why moids with attractive faces would ever though. And I (like most self-respecting women) only consider dating men with attractive faces, so I stay well away from moids with beards.
>>2617069Yeah some women do it too, I think often for similar reasons why moids do it. Women with low self-esteem who psyop themselves into 'giving ugly guys a chance' often self-soothe by convincing themselves their female friends with actual standards are dating closeted gays or something so they don't have to face their own low standards.
>His own Dad would make digs in front on me but he looked like every other potbellied scrote.This I really don't get, but my bf's parents were the same. I don't get why parents of all people try to undercut and psyop their own sons kek.
No. 2617291
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>>2617068Plus the time he said this
>>2617053>but at least 3 of my gay friends told me he must be secretly gay because his hair is long and that's a 'gay tell' guys get to signal being gay to other men. This is extra retarded because the vast majority of actual legit gay men have super short hair
No. 2617604
>>2617291I knew he was a terrible person but this quote is worse than I could have imagined, wtf. Why is every Hollywood scrote such a disgusting person, even the ones who don't have a bunch of active rape and trafficking charges pending against them? I feel so bad for every single woman that works in that industry.
>>2617394I think it's just wishful thinking on gay men's part, tbh. I don't know where the 'long hair = gay' stereotype even came from but it seems like moids of all varieties just accept it as fact.
No. 2617799
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>>2617604Gay men seem to calibrate their gaydar on how willing they are to fuck a certain man. I have gay male friends who will refuse to acknowledge other gay men as one of them if they are too disgusting to them personally. It seems to fall on the 'no true Scotsman' fallacy, like, "Ew, he's nasty and probably doesn't douche! Any true gay man would use an enema!" when assessing the lack of hygiene from fellow gays. They're not actually 'gay', they're just opportunistically homosexual, duh!
Which is something I've observed too to be honest. Like there's gay men, and there's men who do really gay shit. But they're both still homosexual, regardless of whether they self-identify as gay or other gay men view them as one of their own, so… what to make of this? I think they just say this to protect the 'integrity' of their sexual identity, but instead it just makes me think male homosexuality isn't a real 'orientation' but some fetish on the dysfunctional male psychosexual continuum.
I've also had a couple of the same gay male friends claim that the gays 'take care of their own', and they feel the need to distinguish between gay men, and pedophiles who lurk in their communities. It's very odd, but you actually see straight males do this in the opposite direction as well. Gay men will see that there is a child predator in their community, a man who targets boys specifically and exclusively, and instead of acknowledging that gay men are capable of being child abusers too, they just shrug their shoulders and pretend that these men aren't gay, they're just pedophiles, and insist that in no way is their pedophilia related to their own homosexuality.
And straight males also do this, but instead of a straight pedophile being explicitly straight, they try to deflect and act like pedophiles who target only girls must be some kind of bisexual pervert who would just as surely target boys if given the opportunity. They might, or they might just be plain ole straight child abusers who are only and solely attracted to girls. It's like either boys are too precious, that's the great tragedy to them that boys get abused (but can overlook the horror of girl abuse, in typical scrote fashion), or they just want to protect the image of the righteous, conservative, heterosexual family man.
And this is all under the assumption they're not caping for the pedos, in either case. But yeah, that was quite an escalation just to say I don't know why women trust their teehee gay besties on relationship advice when gay men often times treat women the same way straight ones do. Literally the only benefit is they're not trying to get in your pants, but they still treat women as accessories to their ego and as free labor. And males regardless of sexuality love to lie to themselves and others in hopes if they say it enough times it will be true.
No. 2618100
File: 1753334286822.mp4 (13.37 MB, 720x1280, 1000082691.mp4)
Host clubs are a fucking psyop. All of them look ugly as fuck and faggy
No. 2618120
>>2618100This is so hard to watch. All their mannerisms are so childish and exaggerated. Do Japanese women really like this?
People in sketchy professions like this lead a hard life and age really poorly. They might look cute for a year or two and then wall die to excessive drinking/drugs.
No. 2618128
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>>2618120>Do Japanese women really like this? Yes. It's really funny that yellow fever moids want a qte aidoru kawaii innocent rori waifu and think roiding out will get them a submissive asian wife, meanwhile young japanese women are into this. This guy caused a shitstorm of butthurt on japan both from women and men because he was dating some popular vtuber secretly. Women were heartbroken over the news that he was taken. I honestly really respect japanese women for subjecting moids to the same ayylmao standards it's hilarious.
No. 2618132
>>2618128I didnt mean their looks, I knew that the beauty standard for men is different in Asian countries, I meant more the weird exaggerated behaviour, it is cringy to me, that might just be me being very Western/European and also finding this concept of paying for company weird.
Kudos to the Japanese women enforcing the beauty standart on their men though, we can learn from them instead of cutting our men all kinds of undeserved slack and enable them looking poorly.
No. 2619530
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No. 2619778
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>>2619747There definitely are some non-botched famous actors who take lead roles, but it's usually in more serious shows (like mystery/thriller) or older actors who are past the age to be hot. Then there are some non-botched ones like Cha Eun Woo who looks like that naturally but is a shit actor and takes shitty roles. This guy is imo hot and hasn't had the usual ton of plastic surgery but he only gets like one role a year for whatever reason (he's a decent actor as far as kdrama goes, imo).
No. 2619941
>>2619899Cha Eun Woo (not the guy in my picture) was in True Beauty and he hasn't had plastic surgery as far as anyone can tell, but he is a really bad charisma-lacking idol-actor kek. The guy in my pic is an actual actor who got famous for his acting but I don't think he fits the Korean male beauty standard as much because he does not get nearly as many lead roles, especially in any big like romance productions or anything.
>recently tried to watch It's OK To Not Be OK but couldn't get over either lead's face.I actually don't think the male lead of that has had much PS either but he is a pedophile whose
victim killed herself, so better not watch anything with him anyway kek. I appreciate that the kdrama industry tries to have young/attractive men in some of the shows at least but I wish they didn't keep casting known sex offenders in everything, kind of ruins the vibes.
No. 2620056
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has this one been posted? she's one of the most beautiful famous women of her time and he looks like a worm
No. 2620335
>>2618100This reminds me of the host club documentary from 2006 called The Great Happiness Space: Tale of an Osaka Love Thief. At 14:53 they talk about salaries. At some point they talk about how much alcohol they have to sell and drink to make their commission.
Also there was a documentary released in 2023 called "Predator: The Secret Scandal of J-Pop" about the sexual abuse scandals by Johnny Kitagawa. In it there was a male host interviewed who said something like how if he was given the opportunity he'd sleep with a producer to become an idol and make money and the documentary journalist was shocked at how open this host was to the casting couch, especially after the journalist had met several ex-trainees who didn't see what happened to them as sexual abuse either.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/m001jw7y No. 2621157
File: 1753483594794.mp4 (7.1 MB, 720x1280, 3988.mp4)
>>2618100I have seen worse
No. 2621158
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Imagine how many attractive moids there would be if they tried harder (gym, diet, skincare, fillers, growing their hair, shaving).
No. 2621194
>>2621191It's camera focal length and angle/pose (and aging). How else do you think he 'changed the shape of his face,' with shaving and skincare? I have a 'strong jaw' and depending on camera/angle it can either look square or v-shaped very easily (usually v-shaped in a selfie camera when I tilt my face down or square with a lower angle and longer focal length), that's common for anyone with strong jawlines but he obviously also aged which slims the face more.
Also yes filters absolutely do change the structure of the face kekkk. Are you trolling?
No. 2621226
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Posting some graphs comparing the age of a female actress throughout her career with the age of her male love interests. They are a bit out of date, but it puts Hollywood age gaps into perspective
No. 2621241
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Last one, notice how wide the age gap gets after 25
No. 2621671
>>2621665I think there's nothing wrong with being actually cute naturally but the mannerisms in the video are anime girl mannerisms that are not natural for anyone and just come across as grown ass hideous moids trying to pander to weird child-ification fantasies. That shit isn't cute for almost anyone, male or female, and is naturally offputting to most adults especially if some hulking ogre moid does it pretending to be attractive and babyish at a woman who looks younger than he does.
I think the only time that explicitly babyish/childish behavior is genuinely considered cute by most adults is in the context of a long term intimate relationship, where purely in private people will sometimes act cutesy with each other, but most of those people would still find it incredibly cringe and humiliating if their partner acted that way in public or in front of others.
No. 2621676
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>>2621665I wish men acted and looked like animu but men arent ensouled enough.
No. 2621690
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>>2621689That's how anime boys act. Kawiwi doesnt discriminate in anime.
No. 2621703
>>2621694Anon was responding to a comment about this video
>>2618100 and the cringe mannerisms the troglodyte males had in it, saying
>personally think it's cute, I wish American men (were more like this)Are you the illiterate one? Summerfag who can't backread a few posts?
No. 2621735
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>>2621733I think you responded to the wrong post but if you were responding to the ensouled jokepost I am the person who posted
>>2621694 so no, I am not pretending I would take a woman who behaves like that seriously either. I am a bisexual who has preferred dating women and if any woman acted like female characters from shoujo anime I would think she had a mental illness and run away also. Certainly trying to imagine the average American moid doing the finger-bumping gesture is too funny to imagine almost, like just imagine picrel doing it.
No. 2621754
>>2621747How do they compete with all those young global influencers who can speak English and Japanese like Kole?
They look like country guys who moved to the city from rural areas from lack of opportunities. Unemployment is high yet there’s a lack of healthcare workers that they need to import. Would Japanese men ever go into nursing? Japan is a culture that gives subsidies to living treasures for retaining artisanal traditions, many of whom have foreign apprentices due to lack of interest from the younger generation, they could become content creators in addition to being artisans. Prostitution in Japan is such a dead end for the individual and for society it is a waste of human capital.
No. 2621758
>>2621754The same way that random sex trafficked teenage girls who work in hostess clubs 'compete' with Belle Delphine (not saying the level of pressure for moids to become hosts is anywhere near the same as it is for girls/women, just the 'market dynamics') - there are random literal who customers who want a host/hostess to pour them a drink and an internationally famous influencer is never going to do that for them.
Going into health care requires significant education, some intelligence and work ethic whereas drinking and acting cutesy in a bar requires a lot less. I don't think the guys that go into hosting are really the brightest bulbs or the moids with the highest work ethic. In every country there are plenty of shitty dead-end industries like this populated by people who for whatever reason won't or can't do something better.
No. 2621970
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Wtf Eastern Europeanonnies is this true? What causes this giant difference between two brothers?
No. 2622030
>>2621970They're half brothers with a 24 year old age gap apparently
>>2621998Why do eastern European moids age so badly? It's worse than other moids
No. 2623274
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>>2620335Yooo I watched this whole thing tonight with a friend. I really like the part where that one lady calls them out and says to the #1 ranking guy, "You're a loser!"
I like how much the men try to spin what they do as being A: really hard-working, and B: just as awful as the female prostitutes. Dude, you don't fucking give head to balding salarymen like they have to. You don't have to dress up in sailor uniforms to appease the creepy pedo moids. And you can say "no" to customers wanting sex. Like fuck off.
No. 2623966
File: 1753638762643.mp4 (3.99 MB, 720x1280, 4488.mp4)
Opinion?
No. 2625394
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No. 2627202
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No. 2629102
>>2620639Yep. Japanese women are pretty hard to get. My cousin has a Japanese gf but he's also gl, successful, normie, and lost importantly non yellow fever/no asian fetish.
Most yellow fever moids end up getting with a SEA or Chinese woman. I've seen very very few weeb poltards or yellow fever moids end up with an actual Japanese lady in general despite Japanese women being their utmost ideal.
No. 2629109
>>2621157Hosts are well known in Japan for being complete scumbags lol. Most of them are high school dropouts with ADHD or personality disorders and they get into hosting because no other line of work will hire them and they have no qualifications. Basically if they have the gift of the gab and are highly superficially charming and manipulative or good looking they get hired. Ugly men can get hired because a lot of these female customers just want someone to talk to.
Their depressed female customers have spending addictions and often end up getting into hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars worth of debt due to having to buy the hosts extremely expensive alcohol and gifts (one woman was buying $150K champagne for the hosts on each visit)
If the women cant afford to repay the debts then the hosts usually pressure the women into joining the prostitution industry or doing porn and then giving them the money. There's a building in Tokyo where multiple women jumped and committed suicide because they were so heavily in debt to these hosts and host clubs. There's pressure for these moids to earn money urgently because hosts usually end up with liver cirrhosis due to binge drinking each night and the clubs depend on their sales to keep in business.
I remember watching a video with two white girls who were hanging out in the streets of Kabukicho and the hosts kept approaching them, groping them, trying to encourage them to come to their bars and spend money etc.
No. 2629180
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>>2629163>Scrotes when women want a moids who has hair and is clean-shavenThat’s DISGUSTING you fucking PEDOPHILE. No man can live up to those kinds of impossible standards.
>Scrotes when a 12 year old boy is molested by his teacher. No. 2629323
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Do their dicks even work anymore
No. 2629412
>>2629113Naturally more graceful and cute females trying to find cuter males makes it more equal. What's in it the "literally the same" for you? I'm all pro women choosing to remove naturally neanderthal male physique out of the gene pool so they'd look more like us. Women choosing less threatening predator-parasites is bad? In fact, i think they're still playing with fire, not being mega predators themselves.
"All the women are shotacons" is such a big fucking lie also, even for the asian women. But we'd be better off unironically if that was true, there'd be no fertility crisis if beauty, youth and innocence were a must for a moid, kek
>>2629119True. They're just equalizing, but even then, not fully (not allowed, kek).
No. 2629591
>>2599502No you're right especially with black dudes. I mean compare the conventional and unconventional attractions threads. The conventional thread people post pretty model tier men and you see black men and other races posted regularly. But in the unconventional thread women are posting men they're actually attracted to and it's like 90% white guys, the occasional asian or middle easterner, and rarely black or indian guys. I feel like the hispanics posted are usually the more euro leaning type
It's funny you bring up asian men too, because the thirst posting over the current plastic monstrosities coming out of asia never resonated with me even though I think some natural asian men are pretty attractive
No. 2629892
>>2629412Youthful doesn’t necessarily equal beautiful. That’s literal pedo logic. And yes Japanese women being actual shotacons highly commonplace, Kyary Pamyu Pamyu was trying to groom her 10 year old moid backup dancer and getting him into bed with her, and was openly tweeting this as if it’s completely normal (which it is in Japanese society)
‘Hurr women pedos good’ is such a brainlet race to the bottom take. Feminism isn’t about apeing the worst behaviors of moids as a gotcha.
>>2629118 No. 2629896
>>2629730>>2629763Do you realize that people who are neurodivergent, or people who look funny, are often attracted to other odd looking people? On 4chan, when they ask incels to post their ideal woman, it’s not Victoria Secret models or instagram girls, 95% of the time. A lot of the time it’s just average or kinda funny looking random women, who are pasty and doughy looking, or who have a big nose and extremely thin lips, or dorky girls with bad teeth who are covered in freckles or have huge bags under their eyes, etc etc. Even their porn threads are full of women with retarded looking Sid from Ice Age faces, floppy or lopsided tits, outie vaginas, brown buttholes, shitty WHRs etc.
The men on there don’t constantly infight over other posters tastes either.
No. 2629902
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>>2627202Gustave looks like that ugly mongoloid guy from Reddit with his hot ancestors.
No. 2629913
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>>2629088Those videos are blackpilling as fuck because they truly showcase how terribly even top tier handsome men age
No. 2629916
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It’s genuinely so fucking over kek
No. 2629917
>>2629892Kyry pamyu is literally a grooming
victim herself and she definetly doesn't represent all women of japan just like how deviant teachers in the west dont represent all women. Also youth does equal beauty in men because they are the gender that go bald as they age.
No. 2629920
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Men try not to become bald pedophile ogre looking monstrosities by 40 challenge
No. 2629932
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Why do we even let men over 40 steal oxygen? At least older women can be loving grandmothers, bake nice cakes, do charity work and fundraisers etc.
Old men just exist to fart, rave about how great Trump is, leave creepy comments under 18 year old women’s thirst traps, and molest their nieces.
No. 2629940
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Grim.
No. 2629950
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>>2629942Agreed. At least men used to dress in goddamn suits and ties and have SOME modicum of self-respect (and hygiene). Men middle class and higher were expected to follow rules dictated by society that told them how to dress, how to court a lady, etc.
No. 2630012
>>2629989lookism was never about ‘getting women’. it was always about ‘getting girls’. they realized most teenage girls like prettyboys as opposed to rugged hunks.
that’s why these men obsess over ‘prettyboymaxxing’ and the ‘teenage girls gaze’. because they want to attract girls in the 12-18 year old age ranges.
No. 2630230
>>2629892I'm aware that more neotenous doesn't immediately equal more beautiful. And i'm not pro "copying male behavior as a gotcha". This is simply not the same, women couldn't even truly copy it if they wanted. Women going for smaller and cuter predator-parasites (if they're so desperate, although i wouldn't recommend even that) is a logical and safer option for them, why are you moralfagging them out of it? Females are more naturally neotenous and "child-like" than males already and are biologically more young at the same chronological ages (we have already discussed it in here), so the pairs you'd probably think are "matched" and "not pedo" in reality aren't, at the cost of a female. I simply don't see a problem in females choosing males that look closer to them in size and neoteny levels and even appear younger and weaker than them, because then they're more harmless. The female being default bigger and more domineering than the male would be good, but we have the default opposite. Calling it moid-coded is stupidity to me. The reasons are entirely different.
Kyary is one woman. Usually they still mostly want men to be bigger and taller and relatively more "masculine" than them and etc. Anime bishies don't look like anime shotas, and they prefer the bishies, aka the twinks.
>no jawline, huge wet anime eyes, baby smooth skin and weighing 120lbs max. Why are you conflating non-square jawlines, big eyes and clear skin with "literally pedophilia"? All pretty animus share those features, but you'd be able tot tell who is supposed to be an adult character and who is not. This is just gracility. And why would you be against women keeping their aggressors skinnier and weaker than them? It's a comparable number to women's weight anyway, like, what's the problem???
Listen, i'm all for the ideal of men looking like the ideal of women that you don't consider pedophilic (the western one, i presume), but translated to a male, i'm afraid you'd simply still call it pedophilia. This is my main problem. Those fucking men in a video didn't look child-like at all, they didn't behave very child-like either (except of one of them), i'm very confused from what this discussion even started.
>>2629903They have weird plastic surgery trends nowadays that i also think look ugly and like they have body dysmorphia and can't see it, but no way neanderthal ones look better, lmao. But let's agree to disagree, since you don't like even the animus. I personally think natural v-lines and natural big eyes would look great on men. The female ideal of males shouldn't be held as the benchmark, but it'd be quite normal for the naturally more neotenous women to want a partner that looks harmless and closer to them in neoteny.
>>2629950Hate 19th century as an example a bit, because it's when they invented "masculine" fashion and started dress boring in… penguin fursuits (KEK) and cut their hair.
No. 2630248
>>2630013NTA but suits are hot and make men look good but only if they're properly tailored. Obviously moids shouldn't just put on an ill-fitting suit and call it a day, they should put effort into their actual appearance and not just what they wear. A good suit can't fix an ugly face, an ugly beard, ugly hair or a disgusting body (though it can hide it temporarily). And women shouldn't sacrifice themselves so much to be attractive to scrotes, it's not fair that women do so much while they put zero effort, and males will fuck anything so there's no point. I agree with you about putting effort but not about suits being ugly. I'm also
not saying that males should only wear suits instead of wearing different kinds of attractive clothes, some more revealing than others. Have a good day.
No. 2630254
>>2630251The video posted was of some random ugly bogged moids kek not some idol who was street cast for already being attractive and then got a bit of additional work done. Plastic surgery makes almost everyone look universally worse, and no most women do not like the look of heavy plastic surgery, even if occasionally someone (who was already attractive beforehand) who has plastic surgery is viewed as attractive.
I could just as easily say 'Pedro Pascal is popular, I am sorry but you are the outlier' but mentally healthy normal women neither find old grandpas nor bogged moids with bad genetics hot.
No. 2630266
>>2630263So you think women only look good in skin tight spandex too? NTA but some of these takes are so weird and unhinged kek
>>2630264I have never met a kpop fan irl but I've met many women into ugly old geriatric hollywood scrotes, do you really think if women can be psyopped into liking one type of celebrity they can't be psyopped into liking another? Mentally healthy women don't fall for the psyop of ugly celebrity moids period, whether they're old and bearded or bogged fuggos.
No. 2630358
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Apu is just a continuation of men’s ugly fat bastard porn fetish
No. 2630429
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>>2630409I am still pissed that i was born to late to get a cute goth/emo/alt bf in high school. It's not fair.
No. 2630464
>>2630441Extinct, Gone.
Poof!
No. 2630802
>>2630697Oh yeah when it comes to lingerie there definitely isn't anything for men, but that's never bothered me because I think lingerie for women is/looks retarded too. It might be the most obvious case where there really is no male equivalent though, the closest I think it gets is those weird BDSM things that gay men wear but I don't think most straight women would be remotely into that.
>>2630677Unironically, they wore different shoes kek
No. 2630938
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The comments are worse than just this call for acceptance, it’s full of women gushing over baldies
No. 2631015
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Why is there such disparity between female and male anime fans? Even the fatties are more put together than the men.
No. 2631255
>>2631059Despite all the screeching that moids do about how Body Positivity Ruined Women! (despite the fact that women and men are getting fat at very similar rates and it's probably hormonal and due to the food supply/environmental toxins but it looks even worse on men) I've only seen men get more and more picky and nasty and open about their preferences in women's appearance over my lifetime. It used to at least be considered weird and rude for moids to nitpick women's appearance to the degree they now do or openly admit to dating women just for how they look or for being youthful, but now moids shamelessly talk about it everywhere while acting victimized by 'body acceptance' kek. If body acceptance benefited anyone, it's moids. Fat moids used to be openly shamed and mocked, now fat women are still openly shamed and mocked but lots of people pretend to be into fat moids. Everyone used to admit to finding bald moids ugly, now all of a sudden we're supposed to pretend bald moids are hot kek. Meanwhile beauty standards for women just get stricter.
>>2631062I'm a younger millennial (early-mid 30s) and I've mostly seen the same. There are still a handful of the boys from my high school or college who look good, including some of the ones who weren't actually seen as hot back then, but most of the ones who were seen as most attractive look absolutely hideous now whereas many of the women have only gotten more attractive over time. There was this one guy I had a huge crush on in high school mainly for his looks, and I remember his taste in women was like extremely naturally beautiful model-looking girls back in high school and college, but I met up with him and his wife a couple years ago and he was almost totally bald and hunchbacked kek I was so shocked. He used to have this delicate feminine appearance. His wife was not the type he was into in school at all, she was much more normie looking, but she was still 10x too attractive for him. I always see this ex-friend who bullied me in high school who I remember my girl friends from another high school met at my 16th birthday party and they were all asking me for his number and telling me he was soo dreamy because he was this fit strawberry blonde freckled athlete with bright green eyes and he still lives on my parents' street, so I see him around with his (pretty) wife who I thought was average looking in high school, and he's this bright red ruddy roided looking monstrosity while she looks very put together and attractive. I think he's literally a personal trainer as a job and he looks absolutely terrible. I think he had even briefly worked as a model but you would never be able to tell now.
>>2630409I don't know if this post was serious or not but the scene/emo moids in the early 2000s were like the fuckboys of that time. Even if some of them looked good you didn't touch them with a 10 foot pole because they all acted like retards and fucked around with as many girls as possible, especially underage girls. So even if you liked this aesthetic back then we never really 'had' scene/emo boys kek, they acted repulsive. No moid put this much effort into his appearance just to have a girlfriend.
No. 2631282
>>2631255Yeah I remember the scene/emo boys were pretty gross back in the day. They were very cluster B. I knew one who was a nice dude but that was one out of god knows how many I met. They were often trashy womanizer types- as you said, fuckboys of that time.
I'm in the same age range as you and I think a lot of it is men not being socialized to actually look after themselves like we are. Like- no visits to the doctor (I know some dudes in my age range who brag about not going to the doctor for x number of years- why the FUCK would you be proud of that lmao), no sunscreen, excessive alcohol consumption, shit diet, no exercise.
I also wonder if a bunch of them were scared off by the whole "metrosexual" label that got thrown around in the 00s. I remember they'd get called fags and stuff if they put in effort.
No. 2631299
>>2631282Some of the guys I knew back then got mocked as metrosexual or gay if they dressed a bit better but they would still stick it out to be attractive to girls though. Like my bf at that time asked me for fashion advice and I took him shopping and advised him to dress better and he did get made fun of by his friends and parents for looking 'gay' but he cared more about being appealing to me than what his dumb friends said and a lot of his friends ended up coming around and dressing better too after initially making fun of him because they realized girls responded well to it. However, I think that was a completely different type of guy in high school than the scenesters/emo boys, who were seen generally as insincere womanizers and pretty much all the ones I met actually were. I still have this distinct memory the summer before I went to high school (here high school starts in 10th grade so we were 15) of going to an alt rock concert with my very attractive two friends and these two twin scenester guys asked for our/their numbers. I thought they were skeevy and backed away but they got the numbers of my two pretty girlfriends, who spent the rest of the summer texting them and talking about them and being totally starstruck by them. We started high school together a month or two later and it turned out the guys were seniors at our school, they both had girlfriends and pretended not to know my friends that they had been texting at all and gaslit them that they were thinking of someone else kek even though how many identical twin pairs of scenester moids could there possibly be in one city? I kept observing them all year and they had like gaggles of girls following them around at all times and I'd see them in corners making out with 3 different girls per week. So at that time I think girls usually steered clear of that type of moid in general if they had any sense.
The metrosexuality was a bit different because everything that wasn't stereotypically masculine was called metrosexual back then. Wearing shoes that weren't ratty sneakers was metrosexual, wearing a hat scarf or gloves or a coat that wasn't a ski jacket was considered metrosexual, wearing a belt was considered metrosexual, wearing jeans or shirts that were not baggy was considered metrosexual, wearing pink or purple or yellow was considered metrosexual, wearing a sweater (of any kind) was considered metrosexual and so on. But the scene/emo look was very specific and associated with fuckboys.
No. 2631311
>>2631059>"just wear a shirt and roll up the sleeves, women aren't as visual as men tee hee", it's so retarded.You guys realize its IMPOSED brainwashing and doctoring the narrative right ? Do you guys realize its intentional? Pretending not to know or deny women are visual is a control tactic men use so they can remain ugly and lazy while women are attractive and held to impossible standards.
We have to fight back against these lies aggressively at all hours and take it really seriously. We can't stop until the denial is ripped out of their throats. Its the most disgusting thing about patriarchy to me. It makes me feel completely numb
No. 2631316
>>2631059Because they're terrified of being judged for "objectifying" men, not being perceived as nice all the time. They're the kind of women who drag all other women through a landfill in the name of retarded emotional labor. But they always flip out and get angry when you see through their performance when they say "but I don't want to become as awful as men"
They need the stupid slapped right out of them
No. 2631317
>>2631311"Women aren't visual" is so obviously retarded. Ask any normal person "who is more motivated to decorate their home so it looks nice" or "who is naturally more stylish" or "who has better visual attention to detail when asked to look at a a painting" and everyone, including moids, will say "obviously women." Never in my life heard a moid say that men are better at telling if someone's wearing makeup or has dyed hair, better at putting together a good outfit or more likely to decorate a home nicely. So of course it's retarded brainwashing to claim "men are more visual" when it comes to romantic/sexual attraction kek, moids are so stupid and lacking in detail-orientedness that they'll believe you if you tell them a 38 year old actress is a teen or a bottle blonde has natural hair or a woman with makeup caked on her face is wearing no makeup.
>>2631316Terrified of what though? What will happen to them if they are accused of objectifying men?
No. 2631325
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>>2631316>terrified of being judged for "objectifying" menGood. More for me. And I love getting away with it by being an artist, too, heheh.
No. 2631335
>>2631317You don't think they get a kick out of only having to perform masculinity while women perform femininity ? Are you serious ? With all the backwards and dark porn they watch you don't think they get their rocks off thinking about having control over the the dumbest women like that?
How are you still this optimistic ?
No. 2631344
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>>2631329I can tell you (only from an artist's perspective) that hotness really is subjective. There are universal
categories we all can agree on. But once they start splitting into minutiae, then it's hard to get anyone to agree on anything. Imagine tiny tribes of anons warring over certain features, i.e. "big pillowy mantits" versus "rock-hard pecs". Certain combinations of proportions REALLY make your brain go off. (Even little features that most people would usually ignore.) And with an infinite number of combinations of those features, it's no surprise that anons can't really agree.
That being said, ugly scrotes need to slit their throats, because I don't want them in my sketchbooks. Ever.
No. 2631359
>>2631344No it isn't. Scientists and psychologists have all agreed facial symmetry is what makes a person attractive for the most part. They've done scientific studies on what the general population find attractive.
Though I truly believe women who claim to love really muscular men are brainwashed and only doing it because they feel pressured by society. I don't think it's anything but a psyop that strength/ power obsessed moids must be attractive. That is only something that serves the male gaze.
Men obsessed with strength like that are likely to bounce you off the walls. That's the only reason they bulk up and worship sexual dimorphism to begin with.
No. 2631372
>>2631344Certain details are subjective, but there are objective elements to attractiveness and that's what I think a lot of us are really talking about itt. Like certain nonas might find very skinny gangly moids attractive and other nonas might find bigger bulkier moids more attractive, but almost no women anywhere are going to find doughy fat beer bellied moids attractive and if they do they're probably just trying to psyop themselves into it. Certain nonas might find slimmer faces with v-line jaws more attractive and other nonas might find square chad jaws more attractive but who anywhere really prefers mouthbreather moids with extremely weak underdeveloped jaws more attractive? Who anywhere finds 60yo scrotes more attractive than 25yo scrotes? Anywhere in history? Sure there is always an element of personal taste, I find some of the moids posted here as ideally hot moids kind of ugly, but at least they're usually ugly in a way I know is a matter of personal taste (like specific facial features, hair color, etc) but if someone posted a moid who was geriatric, extremely asymmetrical, facially deformed or something we would all know he's ugly.
>>2631350It's funny because as a person who is very visual (into fashion, decorating, I am a visual artist/painter) my bf and family members know my aesthetic preferences down to an extreme level of aesthetic detail most moids probably wouldn't even be able to verbalize. Like without me ever saying anything about it my bf says 'I know I don't have the kind of lips you think look best' kek because he's observant enough to see what kind of people I draw and paint, or notice in photos/movies. I can tell him 'you know I don't think that actor is attractive because -' and he can finish my sentence with the feature he knows I think is ugly in the moid. Moids have to be extremely unobservant and lacking in self-consciousness to think that the women they're with are Not Visual and to not notice their gf's aesthetic preferences. On the other hand a lot of women just live like this, noticing the exact and specific preferences of the moids they date, being hyperaware that the moid they're dating prefers a different hair color or body shape, and many women literally try to mold themselves to what the moids like, even if the moids' preferences are actually way broader than that and they couldn't even verbalize what it is they find attractive.
>>2631351I didn't say they're dumb about engineering society, I said they lack detail-orientedness when it comes to aesthetics. As in, obviously women are more visual than men, so it's retarded to claim otherwise. Try taking your dad to the mall or something and having him guess which people at the mall have their hair dyed, it will be a riot. I never said anything related to optimism.
No. 2631374
>>2631352I don't see why women should be the ones worrying about being attractive in all honesty. Nature has had plain females and colorful males since the beginnings of time. Truthfully, lately, I think it's for a reason. Men are a constant source of danger to all life on earth, when their violence / ego / power obsession goes unchecked and they come into possession of unique intelligence. They become this insane bulldozing, scamming menace. Probably 80% of them are walking
talking manipulation machines. They don't even know how to exist without lying. I think human history is a testament to this massive philosophical realization were are all approaching….. Men got out of control and now destroy most things they come in contact with. They need to NOT.
No. 2631378
>>2631359Not that I disagree there is some level of objectivity to attractiveness, but the studies scientists tend to do on attractiveness are not really ecologically
valid. It is almost always some extremely unnatural version of showing people facial morphs (that are identical other than being more or less symmetrical) from a straight-on angle, no motion, no body language, no smell or mannerisms, and then taking an average of what, say, 50 people agree is more attractive. Obviously in that setting what will be viewed as "objectively" attractive will be the more symmetrical face morph, or an average of faces, since what you're looking for is an average of what 50 people find attractive or the only thing you're manipulating is symmetry.
These things apply to the real world a little bit, but not that much. If you actually look at what real women find attractive, a man with more attractive features, height, and mannerisms with a less symmetrical face will be considered way hotter in the real world than a short hunchbacked man with bad features that are extremely symmetrical and a shit hairline. I always take scientific studies like that with a grain of salt even if they manage to capture some elements of the truth. When someone says 'beauty is subjective' they mean that each individual person in the study probably has a different idea of perfect beauty, even though on average they will all rate the most "average" face the most attractive.
To avoid running afoul of another nonna's taste in men here, I'll give myself as an example of a bisexual. I have never really found an actress more beautiful than Keira Knightley ever since her heyday, even though there are lots of actresses I can admit are probably considered on average more attractive than her. I actually find Sydney Sweeney not at all attractive, and I would not date her, even though lots of people seem to think she's perfect. But both of those women are fairly symmetrical, slim, don't have completely jacked up teeth or cleft lips or anything really weird about them. A science study probably can't really capture that variance.
No. 2631382
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Found this and thought of you nonnies kek
No. 2631383
>>2631372>I didn't say they're dumb about engineering society, I said they lack detail-orientedness when it comes to aesthetics. I don't see the point of mentioning aesthetics to begin with. Its irrelevant since most men just bulldoze and trash their way through what women value and find attractive.
Lmao meanwhile you still have brainrotted pickmes capable o seething tantrums when other woman arrive who refuse to perform visual aesthetics for men because she finds them all overwhelmingly rapey and ugly.
(Women like this need their brains carved out of their stupid skulls and replaced)
No. 2631406
>>2631384Being less risky and incapable of violence isn't really a badge of honor either, it's just feminine brainwashing to make women easy to manipulate and coerce. If women don't know how to fight back they're easily just targets that don't know how to begin to handle themselves. Men want this more than anything else !! Its the number one mistake women make.
Honestly though i really mena to say more than that. I don't just mean dealing with violence using strategy, I mean tapping into crazy. Because the realization that served me more than anything else is that it pays to be a well known as a little psycho. I wouldn't trade knowing how to tap into crazy and unpredictable for anything.
Be in mind you will never learn this from taking self defense courses because precious little twats will discourage women from understanding crazy. This is the stupidest thing women do to each other if you ask me.
Crazy is the only guaranteed way to become fearless against an assailant that breaks into your house. You will probably say well hey "you could achieve the same thing with meditation and krav maga".. But honestly at the end of all that meditation, you're only realize its the exact same thing. Meditation just teaches you how to bear down like a psycho if you need to. And yet NOBODY will tell women this. They will discourage it and feed them some moral bullshit. they will just tell them to not offend and shut the fuck up. Let's be real though that's the whole reason men don't take them seriously to begin with!!
Men aren't afraid of whipping out crazy and psycho and they make it a part of the masculine image. They want to be scary for a reason. They know if women learned how to use it collectively they'd not have the same power they did to terrorize before, because women would be terrifying themselves.
No. 2631415
>>2631372Negging moids in a relationship doesn’t work, they just become extremely
abusive due to their insecurities or cheat on you out of revenge. Men would rather blow up the whole world and everything in it than work on themselves to make women happier and they have demonstrated this many times
No. 2631425
>>2631415AYRT and I didn't say anything about negging moids.
>>2631417I agree and even if you do happen to meet or know a man who is a net benefit to your life there's a high likelihood that he is or would be that outside of a romantic context. I have some really great and supportive male relatives who have actually been a huge positive in my life but it's because they're related to me, not because they're romantic prospects. I have also had male friends in my life who have been a positive influence in my life despite no desire or possibility of sleeping with me. If a moid would not treat you decently when you were ugly or sexually unavailable to him there's really no point in trying to get him to treat you decently by being sexually attractive. Of course I know it's normal to want sex and romantic relationships but I think the moids worthy of them will not care that much if you put on a sexualized performance for them, at least in my experience of observing the people around me. On the other hand a moid is so risky to bring into your life as a woman he should absolutely do the most to prove himself whether that be by trying to make himself physically attractive, by trying to make himself useful, or by trying to put his best foot forward in terms of personality.
>>2631419Kek I think it was in the reddit thread maybe but someone posted a screenshot of some moid saying 'women are into way grosser and creepier stuff than what men are into, Twilight sold 160 million copies!' Like bro was there even a single sex scene in Twilight? I think this meme comes from moids thinking that normal YA rom fantasy chick lit is smut when it's usually just like some random high school drama bullshit with a kiss or two thrown in. They think women masturbate to descriptions of high school science class, idk.
No. 2631459
>>2631419Well we do, what else is the purpose of smutty fanfic and romance novels? But that doesn't mean women aren't visual or that we are literally aroused by text on a page, it's just words that become an image in your mind.
>>2631425Twilight is notoriously chaste because the author is a Mormon, but moids will project and seethe regardless.
No. 2631460
>>2631446That was me and I absolutely did not say 'dainty, less risky and agreeable women are … more valuable to society' lmfao. My post was a response to an anon who asked why women should peacock for and try so hard to be attractive to men instead of the other way around (in most of the animal kingdom males peacock for females) and I said that we shouldn't, there is no good reason. Women are the more inherently valuable sex, both reproductively, and socially. Not because we are dainty, but because we are better at building communities, cooperating, and raising young, even outside of our reproductive investment. That has nothing to do with being dainty or agreeable, we are just more intelligent, more cognitively flexible and less likely to chimp out (chimping out is bad for civilization-building and for raising young/continuing the kin group).
Also specifically when I said women are less risky to be around, that was in response to the nonna asking why women should be the ones to impress moids (in a romantic/sexual context). Obviously, women are not risky to moids, but moids are a huge risk to women. Therefore, a woman accepting a moid as a romantic/sexual partner carries much higher risk for the woman (and her potential offspring if there are any). Therefore a male should have to try much harder to impress, and to convince a woman that 1. he is not a risk to her and 2. whatever risk he poses is worth it, in order to try to mate with her. A man experiences almost no risk from mating with a woman so there is no reason a woman should have to go out of her way to impress him, since there is very little risk involved to the moid from mating with her. To the woman, there is a high risk from mating with a moid, which is why moids should have to go out of their way to impress women if they want to become that woman's mate. Hope that helps.
No. 2631470
>>2631459I'm NTA but I think she was asking why moids think women ONLY or MAINLY masturbate to written erotica, not why they think women sometimes do. Obviously women sometimes do, even men sometimes do. But it's not really an indicator that women are less visual. If anything, I think it's an indicator that women have visually higher standards, unlike moids who seem to be attracted to pretty much any depiction of a naked female-ish humanoid, so when erotica is popular among women it's probably popular because they can insert whatever they imagine their ideal moid looking like into whatever they're reading.
That being said though it is funny that moids assume every random book with some romance women read must be like super deranged degenerate porn or something otherwise why would women read it? Sometimes women just read books with romance because they crave romance in their lives kek and moids trying to paint it as degenerate for a woman to want flowers and someone to like her personality is really something.
No. 2631481
>>2631469I think moids do occasionally have these traits but they're rare in moids. That being said I remember that news story a couple years back where the homeless moid killed a guy at a bus stop in Brooklyn after he lunged at the girl in the couple, I watched the video and was genuinely surprised that the man who died actually stepped in front of the woman to protect her, because I've seen dozens and dozens of videos of boyfriends stepping back or running away when a crazy schizo attacks their girlfriend/wife. It's so rare when a man steps in to protect his girlfriend that it actually genuinely surprises me. I personally had a situation where I was with a male friend who had a crush on me (who was a jacked athlete) on a walk and a homeless schizo attacked me, the moid I was with zoomed away like he was the fucking Road Runner. And then told me after I successfully defended myself that I should have run away instead of successfully defending myself kek. The same moid a month earlier had given me a stern talk about how I should do martial arts to defend myself against attackers instead of assuming I'm helpless just because I'm female kekkkk. He did martial arts for years, of course.
>>2631473Prosociality and agreeableness are not the same thing. Agreeableness is social appeasement, like if someone says something you disagree with you will just pretend to agree to be nice. Prosociality is a whole set of behaviors oriented toward the good of the group, like noticing other people's emotions, having theory of mind, knowing how to resolve conflicts between two people, valuing fairness in an exchange for the long term good of the group rather than favoring scamming, communicating disagreements rather than stewing in anger and lashing out later, etc. Contrary to what you are saying, prosocial behavior is far and away more logical than random, selfish aggression. It incurs far fewer damages and leads to far more benefits in the long term. It's moid chimpout rage that is actually illogical and that is based on lacking understanding of social dynamics.
>And who the hell says I want to raise childrenNo one did, but the discussion was about whether it's more natural for males or females to peacock for mates. Mates, in nature, usually lead to offspring, even if we now have birth control. The sex that has the lower reproductive burden therefore is the one that naturally should peacock and show off for potential mates.
No. 2631507
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The fact that this scrote exists, has the audacity to show his face and desire to be famous, had multiple attractive gfs who were light years out of his league, and also is a serial cheater, is proof that women literally have no standards for male looks and that men live on tutorial mode. They will argue that it’s because he’s ’high status’ even though all he ever did was front a shitty terrible fake rock band and make retarded reaction videos for a while. I never want to hear a man complain ever again.
No. 2631517
>>2631513Ok, baiter
>>2631516It's a bit funny imo how they were all getting deleted, kek
No. 2631523
>>2631507How is this thing even a real person kek
>>2631517Maybe it's a drunk high schooler on summer break going hard on her parents' liquor cabinet or something I've never seen the same person delete and repost every post for hours running this consistently.
No. 2631541
>>2631531I agree with you nonna. I think it gets kind of heated in the thread when anons have different personal standards especially when it comes to some of the weeb nonnas insisting anime bishies are the be-all end-all of attractiveness standards versus other anons who maybe never even watched anime and don't have that as their barometer at all, but the worst elements of the psyop are separate from that, like promoting old moids or moids with completely unhealthy bodies as the most attractive.
I think one of the most insidious elements of the psyop is also the way that certain 'types' of men have been promoted by the media as better in some way, like the idea that weird nerdy guys are actually better, nicer, and less misogynistic than sporty or popular moids. They often try to accomplish that in the media by having conventionally attractive actors play the nerds and making the nerdy characters just very slightly nerdy, not in the off-putting or autistic way a lot of moids irl are actually nerdy. Then I see zoomer girls who weren't in high school in the 2000s like I was saying 'why don't we have nerdy guys like this anymore in high school' but we didn't when those movies/TV shows were made either. Nerds were always filthy, unhygienic troglodytes who didn't even get good grades with unshaved facial hair and piss stench on them, that's why no one liked them. It was just ex-nerd moids who made it to Hollywood writer's rooms who got conventionally attractive actors to play them and pretend that nerd boys were just the nice boys with good grades who treated girls right rather than what they actually were. The safest bet for a high school boyfriend was always some variant of an athletic, attractive normie with good grades, media moids just couldn't handle the reality because they probably weren't that guy.