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No. 2458998
Discuss the current psyop regarding ugly and old men being shilled as attractive.
This thread is also for talking about topics like beauty double standards in media, ugly fictional and irl men shilled as attractive, science about male aging and unattractiveness, etc.
>do not try to defend ugly men ITT, go to unconventional male attractions to discuss uggos you like>report/ignore racebait>this thread is specifically for what moids look like; extended discussions of moid behavior, crimes, sexuality, etc. are better suited to the manhate thread.prev
>>2428639 No. 2459035
>>2459024what
>>2459030 said, I see it used by insecure straight and fulgly gay moids to mock straight women's natural taste
No. 2459066
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>>2459015I dislike seeing women using the word twink too, but It's because bishounen and pretty boy already exist. There is no need to borrow words from gays.
No. 2459096
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That bad bunny ad is so ugly, but at least it’s better than the previous one starring the “the bear” actor kek.
No. 2459120
>>2459099Why are you comparing apples to oranges. I am sorry you are insecure but not everyone else is weak af like you. Men will bully you anyways for liking hot twinks instead of their moid approved balding bearded roidpigs so why even bother pandering to them?
>>2459103I literally never said that. Go back to the 4th grade, you clearly didnt pass your reading comprehension exam.
(infighting) No. 2459287
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are nonas here seriously claiming that cha eunwoo is ugly? he’s 98% natural too. he mogs every modern western moid(kpoop)
No. 2459290
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>>2459287kek this mog is deadly
No. 2459301
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>>2459290yet another deadly mog. the walled scrote on the left ruined the pic
No. 2459320
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>>2459310I was too used to old Jeremy that I just had to look him up because he doesnt look THAT bad, but he does look THAT bad now. I think he fucked around with his face because when he smiles (or makes any other expression) his lips distort.
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walled francisco on my pinterest feed
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>>2459314love bands? i said 98% nona, i believe he had very minor work done on his eyes and nose but he still perfectly resembles his childhood photos. picrel is school yearbook photo, majority of korean idols/actors look like absolute shit in those so
No. 2459826
>>2459287Cha Eunwoo is based because Korean moids and incels absolutely hate him and he's like the most basic Korean actor ever kek, and he keeps getting roles because he is cute
>>2459301I know kpoop is banned but I wish I could post one MV where it has a k-pop moid kicking an ugly western moid kek. Those pictures always reminds me of that scene
No. 2459897
Saw an instagram reel about men trying the beardless filter, while all weren't beautiful, they looked way better and younger without the beard, but ofc most comments were like "he looks like a child" or other bullshit like that, mostly from other men iirc
I want to go back in time and stop the beard psyop from happening.
>>2459287wait is this that super popular korean actor? if this was the average moid I wouldn't complain
No. 2459946
>>2459897Every single time I've seen scrotes say they look like children without their beard they just actually look their own age. They're so used to making themselves look walled on purpose with their facial pubes that a guy actually shaving and looking like he's in his 20s instead of 40s while he's 25 or something means he looks like a child, somehow. Bleak.
I hate this false dichotomy males have set up in general where women have to all look super childlike and young and that's good, while males have to look walled and disgusting and youth is bad if you're a male. Looking youthful or just your own age as a man should be just as celebrated in men as it is in women, if not more considering how poorly most men age. Whenever a guy actually keeps his hair (a given for most women), shaves and looks his age or younger he should be celebrated instead of beaten down by other jealous walled moids telling him he looks like a little baby boy now as if it's a bad thing that a young man looks young. They really conflate being young with it being an emasculating thing, like a guy that doesn't look walled can't be a chad or get female attention even though in practice it's the exact opposite kek, with how many women will naturally lust after youthful looking men and enjoy things like boybands, kpop and e-boys online.
No. 2459959
>>2459287I was surprised too when I saw that in the previous thread, he's nearly 30, the same age group as somebody like Timmy, Bieber or Post Malone, not much younger than this creature
>>2459310 or Barry Keoghan, no amount of surgery and makeup could make their faces as smooth and non-bloated or non-hollow like his.
No. 2459965
>>2459946> Looking youthful or just your own age as a man should be just as celebrated in men as it is in women,I think this is one of the main differences between western and eastern beauty standards when it comes to men.
> even though in practice it's the exact opposite kek, with how many women will naturally lust after youthful looking men and enjoy things like boybands, kpop and e-boys online.My mind is blown because they see this shit and instead of actually putting 2 and 2 together they go like 'NO, that's gay! how can women like gay men?' . Bloody idiots.
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No. 2460114
>>2460088>we got the kids to sleep earlyyou mean
you did, because if he actually helped then he'd be just as tired as you. i am so fucking fed up with scrotes with everything handed to them on a platter still going bald. and what's the point of this fag's grotesque physique? supposedly having trve strength muscles and you still couldn't make her a nice bed headboard? couldn't put up some nice paintings?
No. 2460151
>>2460114This is why the nuclear family is not natural and never will be, no matter how many tradfags rip their rectums trying to rationalize it. It exists to justify the dysgenic brood parasitism of an adult male, simple as.
In nature, no female will expend whatever precious energy she has that's allocated to taking care of her offspring, onto entertaining her male with nonreproductive sex - in fact, an active sex drive and commitment to your brood are two biologically antagonistic processes (which is one of the reasons why strange males practice infanticide). Not even chimps do this. What's demanded of human females, being in caretaker and mating mode simultaneously, is perverse, unsustainable and a dead bedroom guarantee. This is precisely why the nuclear family needs so much shilling, cultural protection and stopgaps like prostitution to continue existing.
This no doubt also plays a role in incurring a well known relationship related toll on female lifespan.
No. 2460172
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>>2460088Women dating men who are physically out of their league is common but the disparity is even worse with
POC woman/white moid couples. Why is this?
No. 2460200
>>2459965Yeah, in asian stuff they tend to elevate youthful men and see that as more desirable for males compared to the west just like with women, even if the standards for women are still always more extreme even there.
I think the moids that call any attractive man gay are just so stuck in the delusions they've been fed by other men and society since birth that they lash out like that because they can't accept the truth about what women actually like. They've been psyopped into believing that's what women want and that anything else makes you a fag and they can't get past it. That or they simply think women's preferences don't matter at all (because they view women's sexual tastes as irrelevant compared to theirs) and they should just shut up and submit to them and the preferences they've dictated for us even when they're aware it's bullshit. Most men don't even try to look at things from a female perspective, they just see it and go "Huh? This doesn't match what I was told by other men that women like, surely they must just be wrong and are all just repressed lesbians and immature little girls. They don't know how to like men, so I, a supposedly straight man will teach them". Or they chimp out when they learn women's preferences and act like it's a huge betrayal when it's their own fault that women's real preferences have been hidden and repressed for so long if they quite literally don't allow women to have them or talk about them openly without backlash. They only see women's supposed preferences through the lens of what other men told them so when you confront them with what women actually enjoy it's a huge shock for them since they've been stuck in their male pandering bubble all their life, even down to their impressions about women's tastes, so they need to make up copes about it to make themselves feel less uncomfortable about the truth.
Contrast this to how women from a very young age are exposed to men's real preferences and are keenly aware of them, to the point that no woman can really stay in a bubble and cope about what men actually like because it's literally inescapable and force fed to you even when you aren't into men yourself. You know they're mostly into youthfulness (to a pedophilic extent) and no woman is really in denial about that because it's pretty much impossible when you've been forced to see propaganda about it everywhere since you were little and even the older women they like are still made to look as youthful for as long as possible.
Just goes to show privileged men are in this regard, imagine living your whole life being totally oblivious to what their sexual preferences are and not having those shoved down your throat by all of society to the point that you can still make up these copes and actually think they're true because most of society still backs you and the psyop up so you don't actually have to listen to women and their preferences. On top of having lots of brainwashed women still willing to fuck you because they've also been psyopped into accepting this. It's genuinely fucked up.
I've only met a small amount of men who actually opened their eyes or just knew what women like already and didn't make up these pathetic copes about it. They're usually either guys who were already naturally good looking and not insecure about faggy shit like masculinity, or (the more rare type) men who weren't that attractive but also didn't care about faggy masculinity bullshit and actually tried to emulate and do the things they saw that women like instead of taking their advice from retarded men. For this second type I've also seen some who due to exposure to asian media like will react in the opposite way and try to use it to their advantage by emulating the asian styles they saw women like, but those are even rarer since the average male weeb is more likely to be the type who doesn't give a single fuck about what women like despite expecting a 10/10 asian waifu.
>>2460088>>2460096That's what happens when you marry an ugly bald bearded scrote. How is she supposed to want to have sex with that. I hate how men will generalize women like this and assume the reason women don't want to have sex is just because they don't get horny or something when in reality it's most likely because so many women are married to ugly men like this who aren't fuckable to begin with. I'm pretty sure if women were actually paired with hot men they wouldn't be denying sex and faking orgasms nearly as much but they fail to see that they are the problem kek. Even when they fail to convince the woman to fuck them they'll still pin the blame on the woman instead of looking inwards and realizing they are simply unnatractive if women are refusing to fuck them. Not even just on a physical level but even for their personality, since so many men act like total pieces of shit but still expect their wives to still want to fuck them afterwards. Also that last moid saying that shit about mood as if women don't constantly do things even when they're not in the mood or even the physical condition for it fucking constantly, like having to go to work on their period, taking care of kids and dealing with retarded moids. If women
didn't do things when they weren't in the mood that's when society would truly collapse because most women are made to do shit they don't like all the time and exist in a society that isn't as accomodating for them as it is for men. Meanwhile men drop out of society simply because it stops pandering to them in the most miniscule of ways.
No. 2460202
>>2460185>>2460172Excellent example of how the interests of offspring and the interests of nuclear marriage as a structure are in direct antagonistic relationship. Anything done to keep your bald pig sexually satisfied will make your offspring dysfunctional. This is literally pointless.
Preindustrial tribes have been raising children in all-female units, with males being expelled when they reach sexual maturity. The optimal, least convoluted way to do it.
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>>2460206I think she has 2 kids from him
No. 2460215
>>2460205Seems like a lot of these
POC women just dislike men of their own race because they're all bums and believe that for some reason white men must be more respectful, or maybe easier to manipulate lol but in reality all men, of any race, are garbage. It's a gender problem
No. 2460260
>>2460250damn they pressed, if you have to reiterate a joke maybe it wasn't funny to begin with. The scrotes can fuck off but the other 2 pickmes are clearly jealous op doesn't have to humiliate herself
>>2460256fr, its all about their dicks, they're so damn gay
No. 2460290
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>>2460268It's kween.ofkings1 on instagram
No. 2460322
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She looks like she’s being held at gunpoint
No. 2460342
I already thought this in the beginning of the last thread when that beautiful sea girl and her old white obese husband were posted, how does she do it, like how can she stomach kissing him, laying with him? Same for that lady and her massive rapey ogre. Not being the same race likely helps, to any euro or american girl these moids just look like their dad or rather their dad's ugliest friend…
>>2460322He married her just recently yet they have more than one kid, what a trad provider… I get that black girls are tired of how useless and cowardly black moids are but a white moid who just happens to genuinely like a black woman just because is one in a million, all other cases are always him being an older uglier loser who couldn't get with any women of his age and color. It's like a lite version of passport bro but without the leaving the country part.
No. 2460380
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I know she’s a pickme but I still feel bad for her. Her ex must’ve treated her like absolute garbage if she thinks some marital rapist hambeast orc that makes her perform like a circus clown for his pleasure while doing nothing to please her in return is a great catch.
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>>2460250>y-you suck penises incorrectly!I don't suck penises
No. 2460394
>>2460290Ew hes so ugly and fat
I throw up in my mouth whenever i see hideous scrote-ogres like this walk down the street but this woman willingingly kisses it
Yikes
No. 2460428
>>2460380I don't get it, age-wise she's nearly a zoomer, sexual education has existed since long before she was in school, she grew up when feminism was trendy, how come even nowadays girls still get pregnant and married so young? And now she's 30, married twice, has 4 kids, and she's not even doing it right the second time with a kind young guy but a walled orc who's humiliating her for clicks? What is she doing?
>>2460407That sprinkle sprinkle lady is also with a lame barely middle-class guy. And remember that youtuber who first promoted her trad soft life and then later revealed her new husband molested the daughters from a previous relationship? This shit is so insanely unsafe.
No. 2460452
>>2460428>>2460380>kids at 19, married at 20I was an absolute retard and barely a functional adult by 19, i cannot even process not only having TWO kids but getting married at that age, this woman only knows chaos
>>2460446>>2460209>He really wants to make her believe that he's out of her league and doing her a favorHe's a manipulator and an horrible person, he's literally taking advantage of her self esteem issues, no man with honor or decency would want to post himself and his wife doing this type of shit. He gets off on humiliating her
>>2460450agreed
No. 2461545
>>2461444Here you go. All of those are always calling the moids handsome, sweet, kind, gentleman, she missed out, he only needs a bit of guidance uwu…
>Casually dressed but he looks clean and handsome so it is all goodThe first comments are making a bit fun of his outfit (but still in a lighthearted way compared to what women on there get), but then you can see some women shit on her outfit.
>Her dress was a messAlso, he's just 18, look at that skin, beard, hair…
No. 2461624
>>2461614kek
he looks like those fugly scrotes who call themselves “passport bros” too
No. 2461689
Honestly i don't blame women who psyop themselves into finding ugly men attractive when 99.9% of scrotes are ogre tier, like literal orcs in skin tone shades instead of green or whatever. Everytime i go outside it's like looking at a street filled with shit, in fact i'd rather see shit. We have to see them everyday and interact with them in our jobs, schools, etc. They sit their lard asses in the seat you are in now when you're a public place, they touch with their gross crusty hands that god knows where they were the handles, doorknobs, tables, countertops that know you have to touch to get through, these are your coworkers that you have to talk to and look at, these are the people in your life, this is your life. You have to hear women call other women ugly and dirty because you don't shave or wear makeup or men seethe about how ugly and fat women are, how women are sooo mean and unconsiderate for looking at someone in the wrong way yet a scrote that looks like a harvey weinstein prototype and has the most horrid personality is more respected, less discriminated against, gets more opportunities, has better dating options in every aspect than you ever could because he is male and you are female.
No. 2461887
>>2461760I don't know, i just want to give up. I know it seems retarded but everything is just so full of shit. Every single hobby, piece of media, industry, field of work, workplace, school, university, ideology, space, everything everything everything is just full of degradation of women, pickmes and ugly scrotes. Women care too much about the opinion of scrotes to against them and if they did, scrotes would double down on the violence.
No. 2462283
>>2461887oh right the end all of women's emancipation - women sitting and accepting their "fate" or else men beat them up
fuck off with this defeatist mentality, we have opportunity not to waste ourselves on pig disgusting men and you're here trying to rationalize this is the natural way. set an example to other women, change starts with you
No. 2462344
>>2462088Can’t relate.
>>2461887And this just makes you want to settle instead of staying single, why?
No. 2462561
>>2462283Women just need to learn for once to stand up for themselves, stop doing desperate pick me shit to attract men, stop justifying sex work as being empowering like sex work shouldn't even be allowed to exist in the first place I don't care if the top performer on onlyfans makes millions while other women are slaving away, stop pretending uncomfortable tight hyper sexualized outfits are actually for their girl besties and not male attention, stop pushing harmful beauty trends on other women, and most important thing, to learn to actually create supportive inclusive uplifting sisterhoods. No more bullying the "weird" girl, no more bragging about material stuff they own to make other women feel insecure, no more inter competition, no more infighting over dumb shit, no more backstabbing and gossip, no more judgement "ew she's fat/ugly". The only thing that men have over us is that these fucks do actually support each other.
And we should stop just giving men sex that easily, this is so so essential. Stop the hook up culture, stop the sex work, stop having sex with ugly men and losers, stop being a side chick/homewrecker, stop being a baby mama, stop having sex with men who put you in weird situationships and ghost you. If a man wants to have sex with you, then he needs to WORK for it. This is why men put in no effort these days, because why would they? They have countless of prostitutes and influencers, drunk girls at clubs willing to fuck anyone, handmaiden, pick mes, you name it. This created a world where men are the prize just for having a dick, while women are competing with each other for male attention when it should be the opposite.
No. 2462665
>>2462283I understand your point of view and i'm not saying to settle for uggo scrotes because i'd rather die than do so, but scrotes are very hostile to women even saying no, they get easily radicalized into becoming nazis because uuh some woman slept around or said something mean on twitter, imagine if you just told them to their face they look disgusting and deserve nothing. While it's more of a thought that's on the back of my mind, i don't think it should be dismissed. Obviously i also don't want to become a broodmare for an orc looking scrote, but if moids do double down on violence, what can we do?
>>2462344I am single and probably will never date unless he is a 10/10. i'm more so disgusted by having to interact with ugly scrotes, like absolutely repulsed and also feel gaslighted by women going through rigorous beauty routines for their fugly boyfriends. But i doubt they'll listen to me because i'm kind of "ugly" or a "
femcel" in the sense that my appereance is very basic and low effort/also just very average looking maybe even considered ugly by some and 99% of the time i only have to say bad things about scrotes.
>>2462599This is one of the biggest obstacles for women's liberation. Female solidarity is just non-existent. So many women don't understand that men straight up don't see them as human. I even believe for men, it's not only that they think they are superior and for that they deserve more, they HATE women. Men see women as literal objects that only exist with the purpose of being a stepping stone in their lives, be it for doing chores around the house or to dump on all their emotional baggage. They absolutely despise whenever a woman shows a sliver of humanity and they will do anything they can to strip it away in the most gruesome hurtful way they can. The biggest difference between men and women is that no matter a scrote's race, class, political ideology they can all get together and absolutely agree that women aren't people and are below them.
No. 2462748
>>2462692>Women flock to men because female friendships failedThe only reason I even engaged with men and tried to be friends with them is because I couldn't make good female friends so I would say this is accurate.
>>2462732Not her but you could just be interested in the subject matter of the thread and tired of seeing ugly males irl and in media even if you didn't want a boyfriend.
No. 2462764
>>2462561>>2462599see, you get it but you circle back to doing nothing because change according to you is impossible. c'mon, we're human, we're conscious, we will find a way
>>2462665it's an uncomfortable truth but true women's liberation requires women putting their lives on the line. the more we're persecuted, the more subhuman men reveal themselves to be and the more united we become. good news is we're at a point where moids can't conceal the information from women easily, so our historical mantra of enduring for better times can no longer sustain us unless moids bomb everyone back to stone age. this pessimism always boils down to the question if women are naturally curious about the world and humanity. do you really believe female humans can be bred like dogs to perform specific tasks and have no deep observations on their own?
No. 2463062
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Are they looksmatched?
No. 2463070
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>>2463062This is what they look like in candid
No. 2463105
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>>2463072The hottest couples are those
No. 2463136
>>2463105They are both one light shoop away from looking like fucking aliens. This anon
>>2463114 correct
No. 2463191
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>>2463116This is probably another case.
No. 2463192
>>2463062>>2463070Yes, looksmatched.
>>2463072Almost the definition of looksmatched when you think about it
>>2463116No such thing.
No. 2463213
>>2463191Holy shit, this is the first actually handsome man I've seen in
years.
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No. 2463319
>>2463310Dude looks like a pedophile
And again with any attractive traits being taken as "ur a pedo!!1!" Can we start calling males pedophiles for preferring shaved women?
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>>2463239He looks good in candid shots in several photos. He's one of the few handsome modern actors in Hollywood.
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>>2463350I've always thought that blondes (fake ones too) should tan while brunettes should stay pale.
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>>2463374He's too pretty for moid?
No. 2463526
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This many fugly old scrotes should not still be in films
No. 2463634
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>a rare moment where a moids actor recognized he's past the wall and that work should go to younger male actors
meanwhile libfems:
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>>2463422He looks damm godd as brunette.
No. 2463815
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That's kinda niche, but I can't stand how vaaled poe2 scrotes are. Shadow and duelist were so cute, but these new fuckers are horrendous. The females are still pretty while males look like shit.
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>>2463815For comparison poe1
No. 2463918
>>2463646Who is he? Reverse image search just gives me some russian site with an album of "Cute twinks" kek
>>2463377>>2463368>>2463350This is what women want, clean shaven pretty men. Yet bearded moids will call this gay.
No. 2464235
>>2464191Big game hunting, war and other retarded inefficient LARPing that makes them feel important.
>putting up with womenI'm guessing it beats putting up with a full-time meat dildo in your house. Believe it or not, even obvious survival risks aside, it just gets boring to fuck even the hottest moid on a moid-typical schedule (every day, as a physiological process akin to eating and shitting). The bleak drudgery of enduring his infantile care-extraction attempts all the time quickly obliterates any sexual intrigue. This goes back to my point about long term live-in cock being innately incompatible with eroticism - he quickly becomes your ersatz son and your vag basically atrophies when you look at him. In any healthy wild-type animal, familiarity and sexual attraction tend to cancel each other out to avoid incest. This right here is your mechanistic explanation for the "dead bedroom".
Male nature is remarkably unappealing when it's on full display, so manufactured mystique (fanfics, romance mythos) is basically the only way straight women retain any sort of detectable sexual attraction. Think of it as Stardew Valley vs running an actual real life farm.
No. 2464290
>>2463634The "George Cooney is hot" psyop has got to be the lamest one. I can go to Aldi rn and find like 20 other moids that look just like him
>But but it's for older women!Most young moids fetish MILFs and older women all the time, there's no point in older women going for older men when you can easily find a young one that worships yoi
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>>2463832Hollywood needs to be like the Korean industry and only hire people for their physical attractiveness.
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No. 2464456
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>>2464445It’s an insult to compare Eunwoo to ..that, if you have to pick a celebrity look alike he looks like pick Taeyang.
No. 2464488
>>2464472Male mate retention tactics (coercion, isolation, resource-giving, etc) stop women. The fact that they're necessary to begin with is why "female monogamy" is a myth.
You need to be chimpout-proof to safely fuck multiple males, which requires mobility, spatial separation and being of higher economic class as a minimum. Most importantly, you must be aware that in many places, killing a woman because you
think she's cheating, or fancying someone else when you're not even together, is effectively legal (passion defense) - while defending yourself from a male chimpout is a crime.
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Teyana Taylor is 34, Leonardo DiCaprio is 50.
No. 2464674
>>2464445Nona please, how is the obese balding whale comparable in any way to the hordes of underweight 15-25yo plastic surgery monsters in the kent industry? I tend to find Asian moids attractive too and dated a few but there are actually attractive Asian moids, even if they are usually terrible to date (especially Korean ones for some reason, they seem to be more patriarchal, religious and repressed than any other E. Asian moid demographic). You don't have to literally psyop yourself into liking obese ogres just because you have 'yellow fever.'
That's like the whole point of the hallyu/kdrama/whatever industry btw, it's basically the Korean version of the Western Ugly Man Psyop (in fact I worked for an East Asian History professor who was writing a book about this lmao). It's basically their attempt to whitewash their moids in the public eye because they have the most misogynistic culture/worst VAW stats in the entire OECD, so a lot of the reason kdramas focus on having these young prettyboy actors playing into every pure virginal chivalrous protector stereotype is to get their birthrates up and make the West stop looking down upon them culturally for being 20yrs behind on women's rights. As another nonna said earlier in the thread, a lot of female-focused/romcom type media is basically there to keep women invested in romance/dating/fucking moids at all because if women were only exposed to irl moids they would dry up forever and never want to date again. Patriarchal culture has to keep women invested in/trying to date scrotes somehow so they try to get young impressionable women to think 'there's hope' by investing in woman-focused media that romanticizes fake (invented by women) moids so women will keep trying to 'find' them and keep dating.
Relatedly I was reading a comment thread a couple days ago where some incel moids were screeching about how romcoms and similar are 'porn for women' (can't screenshot because I forget where I read it) which just tells you so much about the incel male psyche. They literally think that women watching fictional TV/movies about devoted, loyal, loving moids is the female equivalent of watching rape on tape because the idea of being loving partners feels just as dehumanizing to them as they think rape gangbang porn is to women. The idea that women 'get off on' or enjoy the idea of males being faithful and having good character is just as insane and unrealistic as thinking they as an ugly 2/10 incel can fuck 20 hot 18 year olds in one night. Moids are always telling on themselves while their governments and the media industry try desperately to get women invested in dating/marriage. Imagine as a woman seeing a fictional depiction in a movie of a loyal, faithful, kindhearted, beautiful and competent woman and going 'ew, this is disgusting cheap trashy pornification of women' but moids actually feel this way because seeing men depicted as attractive, kind and competent rather than brutish and degenerate makes them feel dehumanized.
No. 2464761
>>2464724The moid sees this from the perspective of not being picked/failing to compete/obsolescence/abandonment, which subjectively feels equivalent to brutal humiliation and even physical removal. Because the bedicked are too stupid and animalistic to put their cuck anxiety aside, they don't realize that peen-humanization media is their best friend, not their competition.
There's also the need to palliate their own vileness (which, again, may lead to being abandoned by women) via false moral equivalency, because every moid knows that porn is indefensible. Therefore, the absurd idea that women should tenderly love and idealize something that jerks off to their suffering needs to be desperately defended more and more.
No. 2464832
>>2464714Woah Meryl Streep at 35 was actually so stunning, I had no idea because I think I only saw her projects when she was significantly older. Holy shit. Every woman there looks great (beautiful if she's naturally beautiful or just normal and pleasant if she's naturally average) while the only moids who even look passable in an 'inoffensive normie' way are Keanu Reeves, Lenny Kravitz and Paul Rudd. Tom Cruise looked 'normal' (not middle aged) but he always looked like a psycho so. This list makes me feel really glad because I'm early 30s and have many 30-40yo friends and most of them don't even look as walled as these male celebs, it's nuts that many of them were getting 'romantic lead' roles 10-20 years later when they already looked like that at 35.
>>2464724ayrt and that's why it shocked me so much reading that conversation. The women in the comment thread were desperately trying to explain to the moids that there's nothing inherently dehumanizing, 'trashy' or offensive about male characters in media being portrayed as all-rounders who are successful, intelligent, loyal and attractive but the moids were absolutely losing their minds about this, sperging about women 'earning' male virginity (because portraying a woman in media as a moid's first love implies he's a virgin by default I guess), and freaking out about the dehumanization and objectification of… male characters being well-rounded and appealing and devoted lovers. It really hit me that the male psyche literally views the idea of being loving/devoted to one woman as degrading.
>>2464761>Because the bedicked are too stupid and animalistic to put their cuck anxiety aside, they don't realize that peen-humanization media is their best friend, not their competition.I think you're exactly right, anon. Instead of viewing this media for what it is (in the case of asian drama, literally a desperate attempts by the government of china/korea/japan to make women want to pair up and reproduce with moids by whitewashing het relationships to appeal romance to the female audiences), they see the fictional onscreen moids as cucking them because they can't imagine trying to provide 1/10th of the appeal of the onscreen moids to their prospective female partners. Whereas when women see 'aspirational' female characters in media, they often actually feel inspired to be more like them, or feel 'seen' by the representation because women don't have such abysmally low self-esteem on average.
>because every moid knows that porn is indefensible. Yep, if they convince themselves that women chastely fantasizing about a loving boyfriend is 'just as bad' as them gooning to gangbang incest teenager porn 3 hours a day, they might temporarily feel better about being such empty shells of human beings.
No. 2464861
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No. 2464866
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>>2464861>oh maybe I'll take a break from work to see what lolcor is up toThese two are better than the productivity stream tbh
No. 2464871
>>2464861Imagine literally any woman becoming a world famous acclaimed popular household name popstar looking like the female equivalent of Ed Sheeran, holy shit. IDK even the other guy's claim to fame other than (I think?) being Selena Gomez's bf, which sad.
>>2464838>The reality (that some women or even probably most women can live fine without them) is actually more crushing than the idea that women are cucking them en masse.Maybe this is also related to their seething hatred for romcoms/romantic media. Males tend to think that porn and sexbots and whatever 'replaces women' or 'is better than real women' because it's an appealing fantasy for them, but in the end most of them want nothing more than a real flesh and blood mommy bangmaid at home because they can't regulate their own lives. I think they're mad at romcoms as the 'female form of porn' too because they know that the fictional moids are much more satisfying to women mentally than actual boyfriends tend to be, but it's doubly hurtful and embarrassing because women don't actually 'need' subpar irl moids for anything the way moids need irl women. So it enrages them because they know women see the fictional moids as 'better than' them the same way they see pornstars as 'better than' real women, but they know women can live without the irl equivalents just happily consuming cute media while they can't.
No. 2464883
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>>2464881Yes please. Ugly-clippied for next thread pic
>>2464861 No. 2464884
>>2464879Okay well if he's a great music producer I'll rescind my comment and, like you said, be happy for him to sit behind a computer making hit songs in the dark instead of being shilled as a hot guy on Selena Gomez's instagram or the red carpet or whatever.
Blog but this makes me extra mad because I am a female musician and I have been held back so many times even just in the medium sized local scene by the fact I don't love my appearance and don't love being in photos/video and even the most indie, folky, classical or whatever music these days is completely image based. I have literally had PR agencies tell me that I'm doomed because I need more AV and specifically visual content of myself as a bandleader to do any kind of promotions even to get a few hundred or thousand people in local scenes to do a writeup on my albums or concerts or whatever. Meanwhile these literal ogres are shilled as attractive musical superstars and aren't ashamed to shop their faces around everywhere in HD because no one shames them for not being the literal physical ideal like they do to women, it's so sad and disgusting. I never wanted to be famous I just wanted a middling audience of people who actually like my music but I learned that for women and female-led bands there's pretty much no such thing as promoting music without a hot body, pretty face and (preferably) revealing clothing fronting the act.
No. 2464900
>>2464838All the things you've listed technically compete with the male for your resources, just like Tyrone.
Once you start seeing male behavior as them competing with you over you, a lot will make sense.
No. 2464916
>>2464832"Earning" male virginity? So it's now a precious prize instead of a dreadful status reducing burden to be relieved at a woman's expense? How refreshing to see a moid agree that incels have absolutely nothing to whine about.
>Yep, if they convince themselves that women chastely fantasizing about a loving boyfriend is 'just as bad'Sounds to me like it's time to goon to the exact same thing they're gooning to with genders reversed and have them explain why it's worse.
No. 2464921
>>2464916AYRT and yes, one of the moids in the comment thread (it was on some generic show I was contemplating watching) was flipping out that the male protagonist was apparently 'a virgin' (women arguing with him said nothing in the show actually said/implied he was but I'm guessing it was just because the male protagonist was devoted to the female protagonist or whatever) and one of his gripes seemed to be that 'all romcom media for women has virginal men when the woman hasn't even earned his virginity by being a pure virgin herself' or whatever which is the most moidbrained reasoning I've ever seen. Like I can't even imagine the average woman contemplating whether the female main character of some show is a virgin or not let alone the male love interest. I'm guessing the moids in the thread were so pressed about the idea of male virginity being something 'precious' or 'to be earned' specifically because they're trying to cope that they are extra valuable as incels, but that's just my best guess because I can't really fathom the reasoning behind the moidbrained fixation on virginity. The poor women replying to the moids were trying over and over again to explain that 'women don't really care about virginity much and that's not the point of male characters in romcoms' but to no avail. Moids will never stop projecting and telling on themselves in their chimpouts about body count no matter how many times women earnestly tell them they're more interested in actual behavior in a relationship.
>Sounds to me like it's time to goon to the exact same thing they're gooning to with genders reversed and have them explain why it's worse.The problem with this is that 1. most normal women are too mentally stable to want to goon to gangrape of little boys/their sons/stepsons/whatever it is that males goon to and 2. even if women did this role reversal moids would probably find it thrilling and arousing rather than upsetting. The actual best thing we can do to make moids stay malding is actually just be normal because it upsets them more than anything that women are full, ensouled human beings while the average moid is a semi-human semi-demonic entity that can barely approach women's average level of wholeness. You can see it when pedo teachers have relationships with middle/high school students - women are horrified at pedo moids grooming minor girls while the average moid is jealous and talks about how he wishes he'd 'scored' like that with whatever poor vaguely attractive female high school teacher he was masturbating to when he was 14. You can't even enrage them by lowering yourself to their level of depravity and you shouldn't even try; they're sufficiently enraged by the idea women are attracted to nice intelligent well behaved men with pretty faces.
No. 2464926
>>2464921>male virginity is valuable >a man with many sexual partners is a Chad instead of a whoreHe'll have to pick one.
Also
>y-you should be a virgin if you want a male virgin!>But I don't have to be a 10 to want a 10!Nuh-uh. Virgin4virgin = dime4dime.
No. 2464929
>>2464926>He'll have to pick one.It is in the male nature to always hold hypocritical double standards about everything related to sex and sex-class dynamics.
>Nuh-uh. Virgin4virgin = dime4dime.Even easier than that, try telling a moid that he should be a virgin if he wants a female virgin lmao. It's only 'gross' and 'perverse' for romantically experienced women to want 'pure' and devoted men, moids never think this way about themselves.
>dime4dime.It is not in the male nature. Male mammals all pretty much are 'hypergamous' (as much as inceloid types whine that women are) and will try their luck with any female above their level of sexual value (which is all of them). That's why this doesn't feel perverse to males - males know deep down that they are less sexually and socially valuable than every single female of their species so they know that aiming for some ugly woman is just as perverse and stupid as aiming for the most beautiful supermodel alive. So they choose the supermodel. And then are angry at, but also admire, and also are psychosexually attracted to, the moids ('Chads') that actually manage to attract the supermodels.
No. 2465225
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I work as a barista and I have to see the most beautiful girl ever next to a copy of picrel every single fucking day. Good lord may you strike those frogs down.
No. 2465238
File: 1743176571366.mp4 (14.42 MB, 720x1280, 1000020989.mp4)

Why are most of the Mr. Universe contestants here so mid?
No. 2465305
>>2465238Probably because even when men are supposed to be attractive for these contests, they're still only looking like a male's idea of what attractive is (to protect male feelings and because most beauty standards are ruled by their perceptions), not a woman's. Notice how most of them have facial hair and muscles. These are men other men would say are attractive for the most part, not women.
>>2465266>Are men really that threatened by the idea that women are also attracted to looks?Yes. To the point that even normier males will chimp out and say you're shallow if you mention you care about looks. Or alternatively, call any guy you like gay. Their seethe and panic over it is palpable, they're really scared of the same standards they want women to be under being applied to them so they find any cope, personal attack and psyop they can to deal with it. They'll act like there's something wrong with
you for wanting an attractive male because as a woman you're not supposed to care about that as much as a male according to their delusions.
No. 2465314
File: 1743179381474.jpeg (593.15 KB, 750x1116, IMG_4165.jpeg)

They are calling this thing “hot”. We are never making it
No. 2465592
File: 1743189742131.jpeg (571.38 KB, 1179x1227, IMG_4048.jpeg)

>Woman sends OVER ONE MILLION to someone pretending to be a fugly walled moid whos “in love with her”
nonas…
No. 2465628
>>2465612men are like magnets to the wall. they do anything to make themselves look uglier and i will never understand why.
If we bullied moids and judged them based off how they looked like how scrotes do with women, the world would be a much happier place. also not the mention he sounds annoying as fuck too.
No. 2465697
>>2465628It kind of reminds me of how some women will uglify themselves or even become TIFs to not be objectified by men, except for men it doesn't even make sense because women don't objectify even the hottest pretty boy to the same extent that males objectify basically any woman in existence and aren't a real threat to them. It feels like they basically can't handle getting female attention and being thought of as a pretty sex object because they're not used to it compared to women and think that's a female role or a gay thing that emasculates them. I think they must be scared of the attention it may get them from other males too who see anything pretty or remotely feminine as female adjacent and want to fuck them. Plus all the seething walled males who hate on attractive men.
I think a lot of them fold under the pressure and try to fit into masculine beauty standards, besides it just being easier anyways, thus uglifying themselves to keep themselves safe from other moids and also regain their respect, so they won't be hated or or put on the same category as women and gay men. I noticed this happens even with men who aren't that attractive too, they'll just do this by default so they won't be associated with femininity and can be taken more seriously by their male peers. They've been told they have to grow from a boy into a man and that entails letting go of youthfulness and that it's pathetic to want to cling to it (only women have to do that!) so they just do the total opposite to show off that they're masculine, mature and unbothered or whatever.
I try to bully men as much as possible for their looks but they usually just keep doubling down and pretending like I must just be a unique case and other women aren't like me, or they just tell me my standards are too high even though theirs are way higher. I had a guy tell me I'm superficial for liking pretty boys when he wouldn't shut up about wanting a 10/10 asian cosplayer gf despite being fat and ugly himself kek.
No. 2465727
>>2465602He's never been particularly attractive but he has been especially hideous ever since the mullet and facial hair, which tracked with his video titles becoming increasingly obnoxious and 'woke' (he made a whole video defending the furry community that I didn't watch but kept getting pushed on my yt recs for literal weeks).
>>2465612I was about to say that I will never understand why men refuse good natured female advice on their looks so hard, but 1. I know he has a girlfriend so maybe she supported the pedostache and mullet, and 2. I actually do know at least part of the reason why men refuse styling advice from women, which is that other men start to resent them for looking good and attack/shame them constantly out of jealousy. Since men are so homosocial they care more about other jealous moids' disapproving seething than whether women are attracted to them.
No. 2465829
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>>2465727It's funny because even when he made a looksmaxxing video to dunk on that community he still didn't bother actually changing his haircut and facial hair, he must really have an attachment to those. For the woke stuff I remember him shitting on le evil terfs and jk rowling before too, it was so obnoxious how much he kept virtue signaling about that in his videos.
You're absolutely right on men being homosocial and caring more about what other men think. His gf (now wife iirc, I think they got married a while back) is still with him so he probably thinks he doesn't have to care and can let himself go. Sad when she still looks all dolled up compared to him like most psyopped women with their bf/husband who looks like a slob next to them.
No. 2465842
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>>2465829Probably bc he looks exactly like a 90s lesbian with a huge stash of expired/stale teas and dead houseplants without the mustache (and probably hair too)
No. 2465846
>>2465829I only watched his videos back in like 2019/2020 when he was dunking on tiktok eboys and other social media trends and then I got tired of his sense of humor and persona quickly so I never watched the jkr, looksmaxxing, furries videos but I did have them pushed on my recommended vids constantly so I could see his descent into making more and more obnoxious 'politically charged' content when it never seemed to me like he would be any good at that or was smart enough for that. I was also really surprised that he just continuously made himself uglier with his styling choices because I remember on one of his really old videos he said he had a mostly young female audience so the pedostache etc. seemed like a really weird choice. But I know he even got married to his model wife looking like hot garbage, which I can't explain because shouldn't she have been embarrassed to be with him looking like that?
>Sad when she still looks all dolled up compared to him like most psyopped women with their bf/husband who looks like a slob next to them.It's exactly like this anon said
>>2465225, this is the typical young millennial/older zoomer hipster couple. Some super hot dolled up conventionally attractive woman with a weird lanky nerdy looking slob who doesn't shave or wear clean looking clothing. It's always sad to see how women will walk around with ogres like that and still (probably) be worried about 'not letting themselves go' while moids are in a race to the bottom with each other about who can look walled and gay the fastest.
No. 2465863
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>>2465847The point of the video (without having watched it but I know just from looking at the thumbnail) was clearly to make fun of the looksmaxxing/blackpill community as a concept, not to actually try to looksmaxx in earnest or improve his appearance. He probably doesn't think he needs to improve his appearance because he already has a hot and adoring wife so now he's able to fully lean into the ugly. Moids will shriek about women 'letting themselves go after marriage/LTR' even when the 'letting themselves go' is just a natural result of aging, pregnancy, work stress etc. but moids will deliberately let themselves go the minute they find themselves a mommy bangmaid. Many of them don't put in effort even when they're single but it's like they put extra effort into looking ugly once they're not, just to rub it in and embarrass their girlfriends and signal that their main allegiance is to other men.
I found their wedding photos (picrel), I feel so sorry for this woman. Embarrassing.
No. 2465875
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>>246585380s
and 90s pedophiles look like picrel. Fast food was really good in the 90s so there were almost no skinny pedophiles. They were obese with greasy lips and glasses. I'm not sure when the pedo-pheno changed but I agree they are skinnier now. He also looks more like a 90s lesbian in the ai/filtered "after" picrel and more like a rural failed hockey player in the first one
No. 2465883
File: 1743202116295.mp4 (4.68 MB, 720x1280, aggressive mimicry.mp4)

>>2465225>>2465863Kurtis Conner walked so that Film Cooper could run. It’s actually so funny seeing the same type of comments whenever he comes up from women - that he doesn’t seem actively malicious but his whole schtick reads as disingenuous and pandering. Seemed to still work for him tho
No. 2465884
>>2465829>it has a wife..hopefully shes just with the walled specimen because of the money it makes from youtube..? r-right?
i would like to believe that if these influencer youtubers suddenly lost their platform, their doormat girlfriends would leave them as they stopped making income. still though, it must hurt having to wake up and having to look at this hideous annoying wokist orc
No. 2465897
>>2465883This is like whatever the polar opposite of a looksmatched couple is, but to add to that they have entirely different aesthetics and 'vibes' overall. At least with kurtis conner and his wife they seem to both be into the same hipster sleaze kind of style but this looks like two people who would never have talked to each other in real life.
>that he doesn’t seem actively malicious but his whole schtick reads as disingenuous and pandering. No shit, same as the schtick of every other male commentary youtuber. They try to aggressively portray this fun, goofy, approachable image to their mostly younger female viewers (kind of like a boyfriend fantasy I think but more approachable than some popstar or actor because they aren't good looking or accomplished) and yet somehow actual adult women who could do much better are hanging out with them and dating them irl. Bizarre.
>>2465884His instagram said they've been together for 10 years so she might have gotten together with him pre-youtube money/fame. Still doesn't explain why she stayed with him all that time though and didn't even tell him to shave.
No. 2466151
>>2466111It's funny you bring that up (I'm
>>2465225) because I had a coworker who, while being a little overweight, was (and still is) extremely well put together. When she came by to talk with me on her days off she looked like a goth princess with immaculate makeup and was the loveliest, funniest person you'd ever met. When I first started talking with her she told me her "partner" would eventually work with us. And surprise surprise, he looked exactly like Kurtis and would use "they/them" pronouns which was fucking hilarious. Thankfully they broke up and after she invited me for drinks and got drunk, she started to spill all the manipulative shit he did and would refer to him as a male kek. That pedostache look is a massive red flag.
No. 2466493
File: 1743240470070.jpg (268.78 KB, 1080x1219, 1000010895.jpg)

Nonnas please tell me this is a hoax they gonna cast either some old ugly scrote or a young already walled scrote we know how much msm hates attractive men they never give us any
No. 2466597
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Random nazi pickme with her rat that I came across
No. 2466600
File: 1743250437044.jpg (2.69 MB, 1080x7649, Collage_20250328_122615.jpg)

Hottest posts on r/ladyboners. Unbelievable. Fucking bleak. They deleted my posts and banned me from the sub for posting actual good looking men despite me following the subreddit's rules
No. 2466725
>>2466597Good lord, if she's going to be a nazi pick me, at least choose one that looks like the aryan ideal. Ironically he looks like one of the untermensch caricatures nazis used
Pick mes never prosper kek
No. 2466793
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>>2465238Is this some drag shit? Why are they dressed like clowns/parodies? Am I faceblind or do half of them look the same? What a let down.
No. 2466886
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The coping and seething from scrotes in the comments is funny.
No. 2467074
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Why are the hottest moids unknown models?
No. 2467087
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>>2466493The actor who plays Link has to be someone like this, I won't accept anything less.
No. 2467089
>>2467074Unironically lack of women with capital. And the small number of those with capital are too psyopped. Those with money always decide the current tastes.
Which reminds me - women who seethe about "capitalist billionaire but with a vagina wow such feminism!" are fucking retarded useful idiots (who wear shein and pretend to flick their beans to mads mikkelsen), but that's a derail for another thread entirely.
No. 2467133
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>>2466497Reddit has already made their wish clear on this.
No. 2467138
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>>2467087You'll consoom the inevitable chalamet slop and like it anon. Or we'll make another self-pitying series on how difficult it is to get a good script through the appropriate channels in hollywood
No. 2467150
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>>2467144The elimination of the cupid's bow in mass media is a testament to how much the current crop of nepo-mutants hate symmetry and healthy genetics
No. 2467224
>>2467056The replies are basically all that retarded cope + calling the girl who made the post ugly kek. They really think unless you're a perfect 10/10 stacy you can't see the clear double standards in attractiveness between men and women. All you need is a pair of working eyes to ask the same question she did, her looks are irrelevant and even if she was actually ugly it wouldn't change that ugly men are uglier than ugly women and men are more allowed to be ugly in a patriarchal society. Their money cope and muh provider LARP doesn't even work in the modern day when most women are employed and have their own money now, the average woman doesn't need them to pay for things anymore and most of them are broke anyway.
>>2467074I saw men say the same thing for women and claiming all female actresses are ugly and an unknown woman in the street is more attractive but in their case it's just total bullshit when the beauty standards for actresses are so much harsher than for their male counterparts. Hot young men are the ones that don't really get much of a representation in irl media especially these days but they'll act as if it's the other way around solely because one or two actresses aren't fuckable enough to them.
No. 2467232
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>>2467224Sure they do but only as weak closet cases or sadistic and evil closet cases
No. 2467238
>>2467201It really shows that the men who say this see women performing sex or 'romance' for men as a gnarly work chore like cleaning a toilet. And most women would rather clean a toilet 1000 times than have sex with some gross moid once just because he helped build a road. Can't they see this makes them seem extremely unappealing and unattractive? 'You have to be beautiful and fuck me because uh otherwise I won't repave your road' is not attractive or appealing, it sounds like they just think women are prostitutes by default.
>>2467230I actually think downturned eyes can be really pretty and sympa looking, but not combined with this weird shark-eyed psychopath druggie gaze where half the iris is occluded. For downturned eyes to look pretty they have to look kind of soulful, not drugged-out like this.
No. 2467258
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Courtesy of awful memes thread
No. 2467275
File: 1743290420334.jpeg (70.24 KB, 1200x921, GK5sIhKXUAEC7Qz.jpeg)

>>2467265This tif artist is into bara and fat moids to show that she's a true and honest dood!
No. 2467298
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>>2467056The cherry pick they make with this same couple is incredible
No. 2467310
File: 1743292267456.jpeg (67.06 KB, 757x720, E809E3CA-FE40-43FC-8429-54F89E…)

>>2467056>we build…So? That’s not an excuse to be ugly, fat, and balding. Even worse that they admit they do hard labor and still manage to be fat kek
No. 2467365
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I tried watching some videos to see if I could get the hype, nah. His lack of upper lip and that one lazy eye is so distracting, it's more obvious in motion. Whichever anon called him a Howdy Doody motherfucker was right.
No. 2467367
>>2467268>The one on the left still looks healthy… If it was a female I'd agree, but for moids it's not healthy to have 30+ percent body fat. That's definitely not a healthy male body type. I'm actually fat due to hormonal issues and the moid I live with who eats the same food as me (but much larger portions) and exercises less than me is skinny and fit. If males are fat before age like 50 they either have a disease or are letting themselves go on purpose.
>>2467335This should make them more attractive, not less. If women are all such lazy layabouts why do women look so much healthier, fitter and more youthful on average?
No. 2467689
>>2467674I know that was her point nonna I'm just trying to bring a voice of sanity here and point out that no, the weird proana sentiment about women's bodies on much of the internet is not actually normal. This is such a key part of the ugly man psyop honestly, people have posted the average BMI (male to female ratio) map on this thread at least twice now but there's only like 3 countries where the male average BMI is higher and the US is one of them, where actually women being slightly (like literally 2x as much in terms of body fat percentage) fatter is natural. It's largely US media that psyops women into these weird fat man/barashit acceptance mentalities when it isn't biologically normal.
Actually as a woman with a hormonal disorder that made me fat and unattractive (I lost a huge amount of weight after getting medicated but am still fat) I myself got psyopped into feeling guilty about never being attracted to obese moids ('it's not fair, I'm fat myself' etc) even though I actually was attracted to other fat/chubby women. Then I realized it's just another male reversal where it's natural and healthy for women to be a little bit fatter (which is why somewhat chubby women are still frequently seen as attractive by both women and men) but moids try to convince us that women should be underweight while men are still 'hot' at obese BMIs. I'm not saying here that actually fat women are generally attractive; I know I'm not and I know most other women are less attractive when overweight too, but having a 'little extra weight' is far more acceptable in women. Even when you look at actual cardiac fitness and longevity metrics, the biggest predictor isn't BMI, it's waist circumference, and while women can be fat and have a small waist, no fat moid is fatter anywhere other than his belly. It's also exponentially easier for men to lose weight and they're far less likely to have treatable hormonal disorders like PCOS that lead to weight gain, so when they try to glorify male obesity it just seems like pure laziness.
I know a bunch of women who were skinny pre-pregnancy but after pregnancy have love handles and non-flat stomachs too and the idea that fertile women who recently gave birth to children should be perceived as less biologically fit for it is also funny. What massive hormonal and body changes does the average moid go through to justify suddenly getting obese? Usually none unless they have sudden-onset hypothyroidism or something.
Deleted to add that the body type in that image is a roided bodytype anyway and that's why it's so particularly repulsive. The image doesn't show a skinny man with 7% body fat on the right and the physique of a runner or martial artist with 15-20% bodyfat on the left (which might be arguably healthier looking to some women), it shows a man who is both obese and has huge roid muscles. That's purely a weird gay male fantasy physique for men who can't pursue normal fitness so they look into roiding/bulking instead and it's naturally repulsive.
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>>2467688This is why so many women into romcoms start watching japanese, chinese, or korean movies/tv instead of western. They still tend to agematch and occasionally looksmatch the on-screen couples even if half the actors have obvious disfiguring plastic surgery. That being said I remember when the kdrama crash landing on you aired on netflix, I saw endless malding about how the actress looks 'way too old and walled to be paired with the actor' even though they're the exact same age and got married afterward (picrel). So obviously moids and even some women will always be pissed when same-age actors are paired together.
No. 2467698
>>2467693I've noticed that korean, but especially chinese TV tends to do a lot of older woman/younger man pairings. It's not quite as clear why with Korea but with China I actually think the reason for this is because China has a woman shortage, but also due to communism an unusual level of gender parity compared to similar countries wrt female academic/career achievement. I think it's the CCP's way of trying to promote couplings between financially successful 'old hag' women past the typical marrying age and the surplus of young but poorer men. There's a lot of content about this weird dynamic in arranged dating on Chinese tiktok etc. but it seems like they heavily promote media that pushes older successful women to consider younger, less successful but attractive guys, possibly because they want to get their birthrate up or just have fewer unpaired NEET men in their society.
Regarding SK they never had a one child policy or as big an issue with sex selective abortion/infanticide but my guess is that Korean TV media promotes this partly because it's more likely to be written by women (and when women are honest and allowed to pander to other women, the idea of a younger hot man is popular)/ In contrast the vast majority of US/UK TV is still written by men, even a lot of romcoms, and men love promoting the ugly man psyop. Possibly unrelated but South Korea has a long history of promoting essentially age-matched marriages in the middle ages. In the Joseon era it was typical for crown princess candidates to be several years older than the crown prince and a lot of their extremely strict marriage laws in the 1500s onward essentially promoted marriages with at most a 2-3 year age gap between boys and girls. Not saying old moids never took young concubines but it was a little less culturally normalized at least for the working class peasants than it was in some parts of Europe/the Middle East which is interesting to think about considering the pedomoid assumption that before 1900 all cultures mainly had 9yos marrying 35yo men.
No. 2467715
>>2467704Yeah obviously it is largely for money but there's also heavy government influence on both Korean and CCP media since both countries heavy-handedly censor their TV. Even if it's all purely for money it's still telling that Korean TV tends to be written by female screenwriters and will tend to have age-matched or older-woman pairings as often as older-male pairings, while western shows written mostly by men have almost exclusively dad-daughter aged pairings. At the very least you can say East Asian TV is evidence that the UMP is real, because when shows are written by and for women, they don't want old uggos on their screens paired with beautiful young women.
>>2467710I noticed that too the few times I saw bits of the luigi threads. He is such an aggressively average looking moid and anons are willing to go on unhinged rampages against the similarly mid women he has dated or been pictured with once in a facebook photo. Truly bizarre. But it also kind of mirrors irl, where any woman who dates a semi-attractive vaguely cute moid will be absolutely ripped apart and bullied by other women more often than not because even a 10/10 stacy isn't good enough for that vaguely middling semi-cute moid she's with.
No. 2467734
>>2467698In Korea there are still a lot of creepy movies/dramas with way too young actresses but in China female leads being 10+ years older than their male counterparts has been a trend for a while already. I also noticed that they often they don't make the gap a part of the plot and pretend they're the same age - meaning the exact opposite of what western shows do. In China an actor in his early 20s plays a general and husband of an actress in her 30s (because he's hot and female viewers want to see him as much as possible even if he's technically too young for his role), meanwhile in Hollywood actors in their 40s and actresses in their 20s just happen to be completely normal couples and nobody ever talks about how they obviously don't match at all because he could be her dad.
I think the first time I really noticed this was in a Mark Wahlberg movie. He's visibly in his 50s, babyfaced Amanda Seyfried plays a 26yo lawyer newbie and in that movie all his friends encouraged him to go for her. I remember getting angry and venting to my dad how weird it is that none of them tell him that she's way too young for him, asking why those moviemakers pretend that we can't see that massive age difference.
No. 2467738
>>2467733No I wasn't stroking out I'm not even kidding there was just a piece of fluff covering the first word and I jumped to thinking you were an angry luigifag (has happened in this thread before). Mea culpa truly.
>>2467735Me too, I wish it didn't show up on the front page every time I try to look for an amusing thread on /g/ because it made me lose all faith in other anons. Like I tried to avoid the thread actively but every damn time it's bumped to the top with some bullshit about how luigi is the most beautiful man alive I wonder what has happened to womankind.
No. 2467743
>>2467734I'm one of those people who absolutely despised romcom media and thought it was total trash until I saw a couple asian romcom dramas (they're still usually trash I can't stand to watch all the way through but at least relatively less aesthetically offensive and male-psyoppy trash). Looking back I never consciously identified the massive age gaps as the reason why I found American lovelines in TV/movies so offensive, but there were a couple tells like when my mom told me she could picture me romantically with House MD when I was thirteen, or that she would marry me off to Jon Stewart if she could when I was twelve. But as I got a little older I realized that part of why 'chick flick' media was never appealing was because it was pushing the idea I and girls/women like me should be attracted to moids of our dad's generation and once I realized that it seemed so laughably offensive.
It's funny too because if you read comments about some of the asian media with older woman-younger male pairings onscreen there will always be at least a couple malding scrotes freaking out about the 'disgusting' age difference between, say, a 31yo actress and a 27yo actor. I never saw any comments like that from women in all my years of passively consuming hollywood slop like James Bond movies or whatever with 20-30 year age differences. I think the first time I became acutely aware of the psyop was the movie Closer where iirc they paired Clive Owen with Natalie Portman (which is like a 20 year age difference I'm guessing?) and my reaction was just 'what the fuck?' But when you're a young girl and have that 'wtf' reaction to these pairings often the older women around you act like you're the crazy person. It only becomes obvious how crazy the psyop really is when you read reviews of these asian shows with 10-12yr age gaps (older actress) and see how absolutely seething moids are about it.
No. 2467744
>>2467335lol This reminds me of that one clip of dirty moids working on an oil rig being posted everywhere. The moids sperging about this need to be called out that half of them work in an office next to majority female coworkers, while the other half is still supported by their parents. Wifes of moids who really work those jobs do wash and cook for them and are grateful but you're not part of that demographic.
>>2467175That was me around 6 years ago,I have no idea why, peer pressure due to being too much on tumblr? I was really brainwashed, now I only think that he actually looks so similar to my dad.
At one point it got so bad that I started being attracted to random middle aged moids at my part time job. Back then what unironically healed me and brought me back to young moids was getting into kpop again kek
No. 2467747
>>2467743>But when you're a young girl and have that 'wtf' reaction to these pairings often the older women around you act like you're the crazy person.Sadly this. Feels like I constantly fought with my mom over George Clooney being ugly.
But I think it became a bit less severe in the recent years. Growing up those Adam Sandler x beautiful actress romcoms were everywhere, now they hardly exist. Back then something like Harry and Sally were considered classics but now it's unwatchable. I always saw it hyped up and was so shocked that it immediately started out with this beautiful mid 20s girl being desperate about not being married yet and then getting with an old balding moid.
No. 2467748
>>2467740Yeah I believed you were actually saying 'this' because the last couple times luigi was brought up here other anons jumped to defending him as gorgeous, beautiful and godly. Someone in the last thread even implied that calling Luigi unattractive was due to jealousy lmfao.
>>2467744>The moids sperging about this need to be called out that half of them work in an office next to majority female coworkersThe phenom of moids pulling 'we are the road builders and plumbers' when they themselves are some paper pushing obese office drone is second only to the phenom of 'trad' moids on places like KF arguing that they want to be a 'trad provider' with a tradwife, then admitting they are a NEET who still lives off mommy tendies, and then insisting that they would TOTALLY be an extremely wealthy and doting provider moid if only a tradwife came along to motivate them to get a job/education/training. The number of times I have seen some mid-20s NEET moid admit that he actually has done exactly zero to get off his mommy's teat but he 'totally would I swear if there were 19yo tradwifes hanging around waiting for me to provide for and lead them' is in the hundreds at this point.
No. 2467755
>>2467747It's funny bc I had a friend who dated Robert Downey Junior's son while the rest of our friends were still lusting after Robert Downey Junior himself. That was really a wake-up call for me too about how hard hollywood pushes literal dads on young women.
>Adam Sandler x beautiful actress romcoms were everywhereHe is exceptionally ugly and I never got why they cast him in romcoms, but at least I think a lot of his romcoms were with vaguely similar-aged actresses compared to other hollywood scrotes.
>Back then something like Harry and Sally were considered classics but now it's unwatchableI think after the success of kdramas on netflix they started pushing younger moids in some of the netflix and hulu romcoms, but people like Jacob Elordi and Timothee Chamalama are just as bad despite being younger. They're grotesquely ugly even if they're not horrifyingly old. TBF the 'mid/late 20s girl being desperate about not being married yet' trope is huge in asian drama too, except it's more normalized for women to have not dated yet because they were focused on career/education and their love interests are usually closer to their age.
For me the thing that really snapped me out of the haze of my mom's 'you should totally date a hideous moid older than your dad like Hugh Laurie or Jon Stewart' attitudes was actually dating an older moid. I had a boyfriend in college who was 12 years older than me but actually looked my age (Asian) and I didn't realize he was older than me when I first got a crush on him. The enraged, protective reaction my mom had when she heard I had a 12 years older boyfriend really hit me hard especially since the only boyfriend I had before that (my age and very pretty) engendered a sort of 'that's so silly, how could you as a hot girl like such a little girly pretty boy, you should like Real Men' reaction in my mom. I think her protective rage came as a surprise to both me and her and it kind of snapped me out of the 'it's actually better to date old men' delusion pretty quickly.
No. 2467772
>>2467764Pickmes never prosper and all that but unironically I think women are unfortunately largely at fault for the ugly male psyop as well as the gender policing of other women. I consider myself pretty female-aligned, radfem-aligned etc. but one of the things I can never agree with that women often say in women's communities is that we would all be so much better off automatically just by exclusively sticking to female social groups and friendships. There's a lot of social pressure causing women and girls to act like this but female intrasexual competition can be incredibly brutal and that's one of the reasons why it's important to fight the ugly man psyop and simping over evolutionarily disposable mid males. If women can be effectively convinced that we should be fighting for and peacocking in front of random vaguely passable males (and attacking the women those males are attracted to) then we are so fucked as a sex class.
I have entirely non-radfem and borderline non-feminist irl friends who clocked this a decade ago and started talking about the 'betrayal' of other young women sleeping with and simping over subpar males because despite not even thinking about it from a feminist lens they recognized that it's bad for all women to have large numbers of women throwing themselves at moids who won't even adhere to the basic social and reproductive standards moids should, at minimum, adhere to. This is also why incel males get so mad at 'chads,' because they realize that men who are actually attractive, charming and self-sufficient are ruining it for them. The entire UMP is based on the male social contract where males shame other males into avoiding standing out or being genuinely attractive/useful to females in any way (via beauty, behavior, etc) since if women got wind of the fact some males are competent/attractive they would entirely stop paying attention to the useless majority of the male species.
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>tfw a guy from 1948 laxative ad is more attractive than men in modern female targeted media
No. 2467820
>>2467782nta but it literally kind of is a reflection of a degrading beauty standard. It at least reflects that in the 1950s there was some awareness that youthful moids are the natural beauty standard instead of geriatric moids.
>like taking a painting of a pinup girl and complaining about how women today aren't what they used to be.You can go on instagram today and find hundreds of literal who women who look exactly like those pinup girls or have put 10x more effort into their appearance than any pinup girl ever did and some moid out there is also probably aggressively seething about how 'mid' they are. Meanwhile just try saying as a woman you're attracted to young moids who are clean shaven with hair in polite company.
No. 2467832
>>2467782It’s the ugly male psyop thread. Showing hideous males in advertisements but having beautiful pinup girls in advertisements is part of the psyop. It doesn’t matter if they are drawings. Nowadays even drawings of moids are ogreish
>>2467829Because he has roid muscles I guess. It goes to show that males have zero excuse for not working out but still complaining about being single. It doesn’t even matter that his abs look painted on.
No. 2467843
>>2467836Even if he's not gay he's gay in spirit just like every other 'effective altruism' obsessed Thielite rationalist autist. This is literally the community that had some middle aged autist with 2001 spiky gelled toddler hair giving an entire stayaway camp workshop on men's fashion (same moid also wrote an entire blog about how it took him 3+ months to make a 'decision tree' about how to talk to women where he imagined the whole dialogue himself).
>>2467841I'm not saying it's impossible he was on roids, but if he was they didn't do much, his abs look normal to me. He doesn't have very low body fat which is why he looks like he has gynecomastia.
No. 2467850
>>2467843Well he is also a heavy drinker. I don’t know if that changes anything. He is quite the catch, clearly. I hate when moids philosophize about female attraction but it’s making me remember their retarded theory that a lot of women are hybristophiles and males who are violent
trigger something in the monkey brain to cause attraction. Because when there are no looks or personality, what else is left? Actions?
No. 2467888
>>2467870Good question anon. I don't think it's easy to pinpoint a specific time, it depends on culture, and it depends which variant of the psyop you're talking about. Arguably it started with the earliest agrarian societies (this was discussed a bit on the previous thread), when human groups went from nomadic or pastoral living (small groups, resource hoarding impossible, female sexual selection for the fittest males as in all other mammal species). In early agrarian societies it was finally possible for certain males with lower biological fitness to engage in trans-generational resource hoarding through an early form of feudalism, which allowed and incentivized wife hoarding due to a glut of resources concentrated in the households of certain males. That didn't have much to do with the modern aesthetic psyop, but it's basically when the whole idea of 'females can't and won't choose their mates for fitness' probably started, because males went from being essentially dispensable outside of their immediate fitness and skills to socially indispensable in communities where they had hoarded a lot of the community's resources over generations. Also likely the starting point of widespread inbreeding.
Both ancient and pre-modern patriarchal civilizations have all been an advanced form of this early agrarian feudalism, with intergenerational wealth hoarding becoming incredibly concentrated to the point where males could hoard many concubines and drive out (younger, more physically fit) competitor males. Notably this is not nearly as true for matriarchal or matrilineal groups, but they usually didn't have much longevity historically because of male violence and physical strength. Pretty much every single mechanism of patriarchal society, from polygyny to the nuclear family, has been devised as a sophisticated form of reproductive resource hoarding and allocation for males (acquiring, trading, and keeping female broodmares and ensuring paternal lineage of offspring). This is why the historical concept of 'bastard children' almost exclusively referred to children of a foreign male, not a male's children with a female who wasn't his 'main' wife.
Arguably the 'nuclear family' ideal most typical of European civilizations was a milder form of the UMP in the sense that it allowed more males to reproduce and, theoretically, more socially desirable females to choose mates, but at the end of the day it's still a form of 'resource allocation' to pacify lower-status males by allowing them to reproduce and 'own' lower-status females. But after women's rights ideals and civil rights ideals took off around the 1800s, there seemed to be a brief blip in Western society in the 1900s where women were gaining some rights so moids tried to make themselves somewhat physically attractive for females due to slightly increased female reproductive choice. The other reason males were probably more attractive during that time is simply because our lifestyle didn't allow moids to be on average as sedentary, and our food supply was not as adulterated, so even low-status males often looked more physically acceptable because they weren't prone to modern hormonal issues, extremely sedentary lifestyles, etc. I also just think males a century or two ago cared more about aesthetic ideals than they do now, mostly due to general intrasexual competition and gay peacocking, but that's just a theory.
I think the current version of the UMP started a few decades after the proliferation of widespread audiovisual media. At first when they started making movies or photo-based advertisements a lot of the moids were older but so were a lot of the women, and they used makeup, hairstyling, etc. to make the men and women look better. But as moids gained an increased awareness of 'advertising,' i.e. the idea they could psychologically control people through mass media, they cottoned on to the idea that they could influence female sexual selection more covertly by offering ugly, old males as the sexual ideal. I think one of the biggest turning points was The Beatles. Yes I know, you will say 'The Beatles were ugly though' but when they first gained popularity, the normative image of an attractive and desirable man was a lot older, probably bearded, austere, etc. When Beatlemania happened a lot of moids got shitmad when they realized that women (specifically young women and girls) actually were more attracted to youthful, fun males who tried to be entertaining and flirtatious with women. There was a brief period of malding, a slightly less brief period of other men trying to ape The Beatles, and then after a couple decades I think we settled into what we have now: the men who control media monopolies deliberately trying to promote old walled moids over youthful, prettyboy moids in all mass media. They still throw young girls a bone by putting some young moids on TV but for any media directed at any girl over 16, they quickly ramp up the age gaps and depict early-20s female starlets with old walled moids to convince us that's what mature, adult 18yo women actually like.
No. 2467895
>>2467878Wasn't his main claim to fame playing a catamite in a gay movie? It seemed obvious to me Chamalama was always a gay male ideal.
>>2467879I'm talking about moids I know irl lmao. If people think luigi is exceptionally attractive it's probably because they don't go outside.
No. 2467907
>>2467888Samefag but to add to this, I specifically think the reason that old moids throw young girls a bone by depicting age-appropriate, cute love interests in media directed at young girls is probably to get young girls addicted to media in the first place. It serves the double purpose of providing a steady stream of attractive young boys to rape for gay pedophiles, but at the end of the day a lot of younger girls get hooked into machine by early-life media crushes who are usually age-appropriate and slightly more attractive/appealing than their peers.
Once you've convinced girls that the most attractive boys are all on their TV or phone screen, you rapidly acclimate them to increasingly walled and geriatric moids as they start watching increasingly 'adult' media. That's how you get a situation where your average 13yo girl is crushing on some 15yo boy in a Nickelodeon show, your average 15yo girl is crushing on a 25yo Jacob Elordi, and a 19yo girl is crushing on Pedro Pascal. It's extremely common for adolescents to want and try to become more adult quickly, so it's very easy to do especially if the female characters in the media only look a couple years older than the young women in question and can be mistaken for their peers - both male and female peers will socially shame a 16-18yr old girl if she's still watching Nickelodeon shows or into age-appropriate boy bands. Even if the girl still 'secretly' likes male celebrities close to her own age, she is far likelier to performatively try to date and appeal to old moids to seem 'cool' to her peers since the society around her tells her she is immature, childish and lame for liking 'innocent' or 'childish' media. Even when girls are growing up alongside male celebrities who used to be pretty, Hollywood will ensure they hit the wall at lightning speed by mentally breaking them with the casting couch and drugs, then offering them a Marvel role that requires excessive roiding and a beard, and that's how you get the whiplash of celebrities like Zac Efron. Young women don't even know wtf happened because the female celebrities they grew up with still look like young, pretty skinny starlets but they're suddenly cast in romantic roles with geriatric moids and at best dating dead-eyed roidfreaks irl.
No. 2467909
>>2467878he is not attractive but he’s a pretty good actor. men don’t base attractiveness for other men off actual appearance, they base it off of perceived status. they are incredibly bitter abt their own attraction to women as well and punish women for it, which is why they’ll call Margo Robbie mid but shriek about how the newest elderly fuggo moid in their fave homosocial war movies is an Adonis
it’s just projection and trollshielding as political praxis to keep women from realizing we’re the hot ones
No. 2467913
>>2467909>he’s a pretty good actor. Really? TBF I have only seen him in like two movies but he's just fine imo. When I was growing up there were many actors more attractive than Chalamet who seemed to be talented too, I can't believe he's the only talented under-30 moid that has ever auditioned for a Hollywood role.
>men don’t base attractiveness for other men off actual appearance, they base it off of perceived status.Yes and no. Men do base a lot of their perception of other moids' attractiveness off perceived status, but I also think that men perceive other men to have higher status when they are ugly, roided, old, or generally meet gay homosocial beauty standards. Males find other males who are beautiful and sexually attractive to women incredibly cringe, and will generally always have a higher perception of another male's status if that male does not appear to be appealing to women or trying to appeal to women.
>why they’ll call Margo Robbie midThey call Margot Robbie mid because she's not the flavor-of-the-day 22 year old. They feel entitled to an endless stream of new 18-24yo starlets to lust after and discard and they get mad when one of them gets a serious foothold in the entertainment industry. They don't want any woman to succeed past her mid-20s regardless of how much they lusted after her and triangulated women in real life against her 2 years prior. Margot Robbie also made men seethe particularly because she was cast as Barbie which was a film that for whatever reason enraged a lot of males, the hate for her started then.
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>>2467688Age-appropriate casting is another can of worms. When you cast a 40-yo actor for the role of a 20-yo the production loses all credibility and I can't take it seriously. Notice how they never age up younger actors for roles when necessary (like in biographies that span decades of someone's life etc.) - they always play pretend that a guy pushing 50 is totally fine to play a rookie soldier in a WWII war drama. Get real. You might as well cast women to play men and vice versa - equally as believable as the age fuckery.
No. 2467919
>>2467915see: the recent Napoleon biopic, where they cast 50yo Joaquin Phoenix as young Napoleon but the actress playing Josephine was for some reason 15yrs younger even though in reality Josephine was 6 years older than Napoleon.
also see: other historical/costume movies where the women playing mothers of the male leads were younger than or the same age as the male leads, like when Angelina Jolie played Colin Farrell's mom in Alexander despite being one (1) year older than him irl.
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>>2467698>Regarding SK they never had a one child policy or as big an issue with sex selective abortion/infanticide Not as big as China's but it was a thing.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-38362474>>2467743>Looking back I never consciously identified the massive age gaps as the reason why I found American lovelines in TV/movies so offensiveThey are offensive, because the men are ugly and the plots are cringe. Simple as.
>>2467907>the reason that old moids throw young girls a bone by depicting age-appropriate, cute love interests in media directed at young girls is probably to get young girls addicted to media in the first place.The joke's on them. New generations will rather watch anime and play vidya than get addicted to live-action slop featuring their grandads. There is so much more choice for entertainment now.
>That's how you get a situation where your average 13yo girl is crushing on some 15yo boy in a Nickelodeon show, your average 15yo girl is crushing on a 25yo Jacob Elordi, and a 19yo girl is crushing on Pedro Pascal.In 2025 they all crush on some 2D battle shounen hero, a K-pop boyband member or a twink Youtube streamer. Hollywood pedos have lost and will never recover.
TOTAL WEEB/KOREABOO VICTORY No. 2467931
>>2467919Also reminder that Napoleon Bonaparte was 51 years old when he died, so Joaquin Phoenix in the 2023 biopic was only at best maybe 3 years younger than his age of death despite the movie largely being set in his 20s-30s.
>>2467916AYRT and thanks for dredging this up nonna, this is exactly what I'm referring to. Love the tactful, euphemistic language of 'a bit overripe on the prime.'
>>2467922Love how they're referring to probably 30-yo actors as 'kids' but the average moid would then and will likely now try to convince you that obviously 17yo girls are actually in their sexual prime and it's positively perverse to cast women over 27 as romantic leads. Lewis Stone, mentioned in that screenshot, took his first acting role in his late 30s; Percy Marmont's first film role was in his mid-30s, same with Milton Sills, etc. Greta Garbo, who costarred in films with some of these moids, had her first leading role when she was 20.
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>>2467916>can't be carried by youths>men of experience LOL at the cope. So actors can't act? Actors are not supposed to know how to act? What is that career all about then?
>>2467919>where they cast 50yo Joaquin Phoenix as young NapoleonNever knew that Napoleon was a starving great unwashed working in the mines that aged him up like crazy through ardous labour kek.
>Angelina Jolie played Colin Farrell's mom in Alexander despite being one (1) year older than him irlThis is getting into sci-fi territory.
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>>2467782Cope harder moid
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>50yo Joaquin Phoenix as young Napoleon
This is so ridiculous.
>>2467952
One somewhat recent example is The Double (never watched this but it was very popular). The male lead actor is only 21 but already acts as the general of an army. The thought of somebody that young having such an important role might sound shocking to us but many famous battles were lead by even younger leaders. If you were born noble and your dad died when you were a teen, you immediately had to take over. Unthinkable to nowadays manbabies.
The female lead actress is 33 and yet they match very well, whether in costumes or modern clothes. In Hollywood not only do they cast way too old moids, additionally those moids look much older than their same-age female counterparts, visually widening the already existing age gap by another decade.
Other popular examples (but those plots are about the age gap) are Find Yourself (also 12 years) and Rational Life (19 years).
No. 2467979
>>2467937>LOL at the cope. So actors can't act? I'm guessing that in the slower society of the time they simply thought that under-40 men were too youthful and innocent to understand the gravitas of 'big and heavy sex stories.' They had to maintain the illusion that moids were all innocent and pure until marriage. Lol at the idea that in the 1930s or whenever this was published 'sex stories' were viewed as something requiring gravitas though.
>>2467952Idk that many because most of the cdrama I watch is thrillers, and I'm not endorsing these because I haven't watched them, but titles I hear thrown around a lot are My Fated Boy, The Rational Life, Why Women Love, Falling Into You, Love Scenery, Nothing But You (I did try to watch like 2ep of this but I found it annoying and the male lead is ugly although the lead actress is stunning). One I did watch and like was Remembrance of Things Past, it's not really a romcom exactly and the main character is not in an OF/YM couple but there is an OF/YM couple in the show. I thought it was a good show overall although the focus was a lot about career troubles and suicide.
No. 2467980
>>2467916>big and heavy sex stories can't be carried by youths. Men of ""experience"" have got to interpret such roles>The kids can't equalHow
convenient, eh? so, i suppose their female co-stars were similarly aged, right?
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>>2467993Deleted post was someone asking for chinese romdrams with an older female and younger male couple.
>>2467990Moids starting adulthood earlier is meaningless to moids, they all think they're little boys and practically babies long past the point of adulthood. In their minds it's only women who are fully mature and ready to be mothers by the tender age of nine; boys don't turn into real MEN until they're grandpa age. Get it straight nonna. It takes a certain level of seriousness and gravitas to be sexually attracted to a 19yo starlet after all.
No. 2468028
>>2467980I know you're joking nonna but actually yes, it was more common for actresses in the early Hollywood era to have lead (romantic) roles and careers into their late 30s compared to now. Of course a lot of the 'leading ladies' starring opposite these men of 'experience' were like 20yo but it wasn't unheard of for slightly older actresses to play romantic leading roles in mainstream movies.
>>2468006Very good point actually. There are other dramas with the same male lead which had the same dynamic now that I think about it (Story of Kunning palace where he was 7yrs younger than the female lead) and while I can't think of any off the top of my head, I definitely noticed in the past that there were other asian shows where a younger actor was cast in a drama in a 'same age (roughly) role' as an older female actress, the same way Hollywood shows and movies cast younger actresses to play older characters alongside older males. The opposite also happens frequently but they don't seem to have the same consistent pattern of casting much younger actresses the way Hollywood does.
>>2468007Of course. How could moids ever let you forget that it takes 20 or so more years after becoming an adult to develop 'charm' or 'suavity'? The psyop has been going on for a long, long time.
No. 2468082
>>2467782Just because women said something men also say (but in reverse) doesn't mean it's suddenly not
valid, this post gives off the same energy as retards on twitter saying ackshually
femcels and incels are just two sides of the same coin because they both say bad things about the opposite sex. Men saying that about pinups is what didn't make sense when most western women are still shaving and trying to look youthful and pretty for them and that's still the beauty standard, not much different from the female pinups despite how much they screech otherwise kek. The only thing that changed was the specifics like hairstyles but the idea of youth and beauty still overwhelmingly dominates female beauty standards today. Men will claim feminism ruined women when even today self proclaimed "feminist" women (libfems) overwhelmingly will still defend makeup, shaving, plastic surgery, femininity, etc.
Men's complaints about this stuff in general are basically just this imaginary paranoia and hysteria about le west falling and them thinking every white woman is a masculine whale now when that doesn't even line up with reality whatsoever kek, if you actually go outside, watch anything or go on social media you can still see plenty of hot white women (and of other ethnicities) both irl and in drawings.
When women complain about males being ugly it actually makes sense and is based on observable double standards in beauty between males and females, instead of the mass hysteria retarded men develop because they saw some actress that was unfuckable to them out of thousands. Men are whiny babies and are used to having literally everything cater to them so they can't handle that and start panicking which really shows how privileged they really are. They take things out of proportion and act like the world is ending when they see a singular unnatractive woman because they're just that spoiled, while when women complain it's because it's just true and there's tons of ugly old men in media and irl.
This same principle also applies to
>>2467074 , that's something moids also say about women but it's actually way more applicable to men with how rare hot and young men are in western media these days compared to walled ugly men. They'll cry about some female actresses they cherry picked not being fuckable enough even though shit like
>>2467919 is still happening today.
No. 2468129
>>2468082It's even worse than what you're saying, anon. Not only are a large number of regular, non-model modern women doing far more for beauty than any pinup girl would ever have been expected to do (at the time of pinup girls, it was actively unusual for women to shave their legs and armpits, and pinup girls who tended to do that did not have flat bellies with six-pack abs, multiple plastic surgeries, filler and botox, multi-step skincare routines, laser, lash extensions, braces in childhood and veneers, etc.) but modern men are doing far less than what men would have done at that time. In the era of pinup girls, most young moids were completely clean shaven, styled/gelled their hair every day, worked out and had fit bodies, shined their shoes, starched and pressed their shirt collars, wore elaborate outfits compared to modern male outfits, etc. My working-class European grandpa who was born in the late 30s waxed and shined his shoes every single day until the day he died, starched and pressed his shirts and pants including the ones he wore to work in the dirt in his garden post-retirement, combed and styled his hair, shaved every day of his life until he died, and even wore cologne. He handwashed all his own wool clothing. He also shined my grandma's shoes, my mom's, aunt's and uncles' shoes, and my shoes whenever our shoes were sitting by the door. He also ironed our clothes. He taught me how to sew and hem skirts and pants; shortly before he died he gave me his collection of 'the good' thread for hems and taking in/letting out garments and seam repairs that he had started hoarding once he realized commercial thread quality went down. He taught me how to fix busted ends of shoelaces and how to finish the ends of decorative hair ribbons so they wouldn't run. Imagine modern moids not only knowing they should tailor their clothing but knowing how and teaching it to their sons and daughters.
Modern moids are so unbelievably weak and pathetic with their 'trad' delusions they would probably have a heart attack if they realized what was aesthetically expected of even working-class 'trad' men versus what was expected of women. The idea of women working out by going to the gym/lifting weights to get 'toned' bodies was almost unheard-of at that time and while women did occasionally do intentional exercise like sports, it was not particularly common or normalized. While women often did things for the moids they married like ironing their shirt collars men had to know how to do those things too especially if they spent any time in the army (and most young moids around that time spent some time in the army). Not to mention that until the baby boom era the average marriage age in America was mid-20s for both men and women and the average age gap was 2 years.
>every white woman is a masculine whaleThe average American moid literally has a higher BMI than the average American woman even though women naturally should be fatter lol.
>the mass hysteria retarded men develop because they saw some actress that was unfuckable to themThis is borne out of extreme privilege and a resulting entitlement complex. The average 'trad' man in 1955 or whatever era these moids idealize probably only saw like 200 similarly aged women in his entire life and unless he was exceptionally rich, accomplished, successful and/or handsome he didn't have a chance with 95% of them. Moids today feel like they can swipe on thousands of potential bangmaids on tinder every day and become enraged when the 300 stacies they swiped right on that day don't all immediately jump into bed with them. After my grandma married my grandpa some moid from her hometown came to her house when my grandpa was out and shot himself in the head in front of her because she was 'the only woman he will ever love' and 'his life was over now that she didn't pick him' lmao. He probably felt like that was really real because he met like 2 attractive women in his entire life.
No. 2468143
>>2468129>at the time of pinup girls, it was actively unusual for women to shave their legs and armpitsNot just at that time, much later too. My grandma still didn't allow my mom to shave, when they visited relatives in the US they were surprised that so many women removed their hair. My mom also told me that they joked that soon women would do something crazy like even removing their pubic hair - and then it quickly became reality. I also had an old uncle who found women with black body hair extra sexy, imagine telling that a moid nowadays, he'd vomit.
My grandpa is similar to yours too, I think this was simply normal back then, even now you hardly ever see old moids in just tshirts and sweats. For example when he goes out in the evening, he will shave a second time beforehand to look extra tidy. He also keeps his weight low and shits on fat people. My mom is always complaining that my dad is looking older than hers (and she's right).
I like well kempt long hair on moids but in general I think that this and the disgusting beard trend only started so that they have an excuse to put in even less effort.
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>>2468133Not to well ackshully you either, nonna, but no I actually meant higher BMI (picrel is in Europe, but there's also versions of this that include the US and it's now true of the US too). BF percentage is higher in women, naturally as healthy BF percentage in women should be about double the BF percentage in males. Notably outside of Europe and North America it's typical for women to have higher BMI, and the less developed the country the larger the disparity in favor of females having higher BMI on average. In all of Africa, most of Asia and South America, etc. women have markedly higher BMIs than men.
Source:
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC10859324/>The prevalence of obesity among men is higher than in women, but women have a higher percentage of body fat content compared to men. No. 2468162
>>2468143Yeah I know nonna, my parents were immigrants from Europe and the first time my mom ever heard that she was 'supposed' to shave her pits and legs was when I was toddler-kindergarten age in the 90s a few years after moving to North America. I still have photos of her flashing her hairy armpits not because she was a hippie or something but because she had literally never heard of shaving before that. But it's true that pinup girls did shave their legs and armpits most of the time, which was actually very unusual in that era and thus seen as sexually thrilling for moids.
>an old uncle who found women with black body hair extra sexy, imagine telling that a moid nowadays, he'd vomit.I think a lot of non-coomer moids nowadays still like body hair on women, it's not especially unusual in certain milieus. I'm not sure about 'extra sexy' but I don't think most of the men around me especially care, and I've heard men talking about how they don't like shaved pubes too irl (although on the internet all I see is men sperging about how horrific it is for women not to shave them but men who are really online are a different breed entirely).
>My grandpa is similar to yours too, I think this was simply normal back thenYeah that's my point. My grandpa wasn't some exceptionally neat OCD person, that was just the norm he grew up with and the way he lived his entire life. I don't think it was remotely unusual for his generation of men.
>I like well kempt long hair on moids but in general I think that this and the disgusting beard trend only started so that they have an excuse to put in even less effort.The beard trend definitely, but long hair for moids often takes more maintenance than short (if they want it to look good) and also requires them to not be balding. Most of the long haired moids I see are clean shaven though while the bearded ones are all baldies.
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>>2468169Russia and every other non-Western European/North American country. Picrel is a world map version of this, although it's older and male BMI has gone up in many wealthy countries since then (e.g. it says BMI is equal in men and women in the US which has not been true anymore since many years).
Anyway it's true Russian young women are thinner than American or Western European women, but their men are comparatively even thinner. Moids in the lardass-male Anglosphere shitting on 'their' women for being fat will never not be extremely funny to me.
No. 2468190
>>2468129AYRT and you're right, it's even worse now when it comes to the beauty standards and things women are expected to do to look beautiful. Nowadays you have random 10 year old girls already being concerned about wrinkles and aging, 20 year old women already getting preventative botox, almost all women shaving and wearing makeup to be considered attractive (to the point that some women will even call you a pick me if you don't, kek), etc. If anything beauty standards for women have gotten more oppressive and insane over time, not less.
Yet men will simultaneously act like all modern women are ugly and fat solely because some games or movies added characters that don't look like perfect blow up doll and think that negates literally everything else and most female characters still being feminine and catering to their tastes kek. Again, simply seeing a few unnatractive women is already too much for them and it's enough to send them into fits of rage because they're not used to it, but they expect women to be fine with seeing tons of ugly men in media. Probably because they've also repackaged these ugly males as "the ideal masculine chad" and try to shill that back to women as attractive via the ugly man psyop so we totally shouldn't have anything to complain about.
Also when you confront them with how insane beauty standards for women are what they'll usually say is that it's not men setting those standards and that women are the ones making each other wear makeup and that they "like their women natural", but they're the first to turn around and shit on women who
don't do those things and call them ugly or mid, like again when they have their meltdowns over characters that don't look like perfectly manicured child sex dolls, or with some female twitch streamers when they found pictures of them without makeup on, or when they see some actress that doesn't look perfectly skinny in a swimsuit…The list goes on. They claim to be simple and easily satisfied and that women just care too much but then do this anytime a woman doesn't look perfectly conventional.
About your grandpa and trad males I agree, men today also have even fewer standards than in the past and can't even be bothered to shave or do the bare minimum without screeching that women's standards are too high. They're insanely entitled, whiny and useless. They can't provide and will call you a gold digger even when they claim to want a tradwife which is hilarious. They'll say the reason they don't love women that deeply anymore and can't do things for them is because modern women are all whores when in reality it's just what you said, just them having too much access to porn and random hot women online, which is btw so fucking ironic when they're claiming there's a LACK of attractive women these days lmao. Like if there really was such a shortage of hot women and women were all ugly roasties these days there wouldn't be such a huge selection of women for them to jerk off to online, but they don't even see the contradiction. They made up this delusion in their head that western women are all OF whores with 600 partners for example and all a woman has to do is do porn to get tons of men to give her money and success, but simultaneously they claim western women are all ugly and unfuckable, kek.
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>>2468133I'm not american but same, I'm skinnier than any males in my family and that I encounter irl, they're usually slightly overweight or just straight up fat. I don't see that many fat women irl compared to fat males either and when I do it's usually because they're old and their husband also looks fat.
>>2468166He could've done both.
>>2468206I can't remember kek
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>>2468190>Nowadays you have random 10 year old girls already being concerned about wrinkles and aging, 20 year old women already getting preventative botoxYeah and it happened so fast. I'm not old I'm only early 30s but when I was 10, my peers would get really excited if our moms would give us 2 dollars to buy the new lip smackers glitter lip balm flavor or try on their eyeshadow one time for a dance performance, not buying retinoids and glycolic acid for $90 at sephora. When I was 20 I never heard a single one of my peers talking about anti-aging anything let alone getting botox and filler. When I was early 20s we laughed at cosmetic procedures. It feels like this shit happened within the last 5-7 years. On the other hand when I was mid-20s it was rare for moids my age to be balding, even if they were ugly and unshaven and now it feels like every 25yo moid is either half-bald or has deliberately grown out a mullet and a pedostache. Like men are both unintentionally and deliberately getting uglier and sloppier by the day. I have a band that performs live shows in 'nice' venues and not one but two of the (otherwise attractive) moids in my band show up to gigs in literal sweatpant/sweatshirt/ratty gym shoes combos unless I remember to explicitly tell them to wear real fucking clothing. Never in a million years would the GNC hippie girl in my band dare to show up looking that sloppy, or any of the other female musicians I've gigged with. The chasm is just widening.
>Yet men will simultaneously act like all modern women are ugly and fat solely because some games or movies added characters that don't look like perfect blow up dollThis is a really good point and I think it shows how much men have substituted coomshit media slop for real life. To them fictional women or e-thots are more 'real' than reality and they feel entitled to their realer-than-reality women all looking inhumanly perfect (in many cases literally, like video game and anime characters with impossible proportions or filtered tiktok models who shoop their waists to be 2 inches wide). They rage out at women in reality because real women don't fit the literally humanly impossible standards of hyperreality they've acclimated their brains to and think they're fucking/having relationships with in their minds. And then they turn around and project this attitude on real life and pretend to be 'trad' or want things to 'go back to the way they were before all this feminism,' not realizing that the way things were back then a useless NEET who didn't wash wouldn't get within 20 feet of a woman and they'd probably only have the opportunity to meet a handful of attractive women in their entire lives, most of whom would instantly reject them.
>it's not men setting those standardsLol yeah even my own dad tried this shit on me while laughing at European office workers wearing 4 inch stiletto heels on cobblestones. They truly think women invented these chains for ourselves, until the moment that a woman tries to not do those things and suddenly they're raging out at feminism and complaining on reddit that their evil bangmaid stopped shaving her pubes or wearing Christian Louboutins and La Perla lingerie in the bedroom. They make up excuses why it's actually putting them at risk that their bangmaid didn't shave her legs today because it's literally diseased and unhygienic when they can't be bothered to wipe their own asses or shave off their poo-splattered beards. I literally watched some obese bearded ogre in stained sweatpants walking down the street with his hot girlfriend the other day with ice cream or something running down and dripping off his beard in public and he didn't even notice.
>they "like their women natural"By natural they mean 12 layers of 'neutral colored' makeup on top of plastic surgery and fillers lol. The simple and easily satisfied lie is precisely because they believe their shooped and filtered plastic surgery
victim streamer is just a below average normie mid girl and they deserve a gf even hotter than the multi-millionaire e-celeb who makes her whole income from male simps. They do walk around in reality sometimes and see normal women but normal women are not as real to them as their online life so how normal women look doesn't even register to them, and the way they themselves look registers even less because most of them haven't stopped to consider that they are also visible and the people around them aren't NPCs.
>They'll say the reason they don't love women that deeply anymore and can't do things for them is because modern women are all whoresThis is for the exact same reason, modern moids assume all women are whores because the only women they care about or pay attention to are literal whores. Again, the normal women in their classes or at their job don't even register to this type of moid. They don't realize that if they went back to the trad life of their dreams they'd be the untouchable serfs slaving away in a mine 18hr/day never feeling a woman's touch for the rest of their lives. They are the main character in the video game! They are playing in first person so they don't see what they themselves look like because it's not important! Picrel stolen from the incels thread.
No. 2468257
>>2468254>>2468190I feel like the premature intensive skincare that kids are doing now is going to backfire
horribly when they get older and start ageing for real. There's no way your skin needs aaaaaaall those influencer-shilled products. That's not even getting into the mass body dysmorphia the younger generations are going to be crippled by.
No. 2468270
>>2468206Just a couple minutes ago, my bf is attractive lol. But in all seriousness I see attractive moids every day since I live in an urban center near several big universities. I also see hundreds of hideous moids but there will always be a couple of good looking ones in the mix; they do exist but they're like 0.5%-1% of the total young male population probably.
>>2468229>other jealous moids who can't grow it, and trad types with bought into the UMPO and think long hair is gay or somethingOr both. My fat balding skinhead uncle has been telling me for years he'll find me a proper fat red alcoholic skinhead man instead of my 'faggy' bf who has long beautiful shiny hair lmao. The trad types are just a coping subtype of the jealous type who convince themselves women prefer 'gay' men to self-soothe about their own inadequacy and inability to find a gf before they walled. Pretty much every prettyboy-hating tradmoid is either a 40+ year old walled singleton or a 17yo NEET who watched too many videos by the aforementioned 40+year old walled singleton trying to sabotage the 17yos.
>The short-hair-on-men psyop is just a way for men to get away with shit hygieneThen why do they all grow long scraggly poo-covered beards?
>>2468231>My mom used to tell my older sister that shaving legs above the knee means you’re a prostituteI'm lowkey jealous, I'm an Eastern Euro but my immediate family moved to The West so my previously non-shaving mom quickly got on nicknaming me 'monkey' in the late 2000s because I didn't shave my (translucent blonde literally invisible) leg hair above the knee when I went swimming with her as a teen. It's nuts how quickly women can be psyopped into changing their entire notion of what is normal grooming. It only took my mom a few years to go from not shaving any body hair herself to trying to wax my legs, arms, armpits and bikini line as an elementary schooler. And then retarded moids think this shit is natural and daydream about the 1950s not even realizing that women back then didn't shave or perform weird porn sex rituals like blowjobs and anal.
No. 2468274
>>2468257>>2468260Yes. 1. Glycolic acid peels and similar are damaging to the skin and will definitely make it worse and 2. If girls are so influenced by pedomoids they're worried about aging at 10, they're not going to be able to enjoy their peak beauty phase in their 20s and 30s at all. They've literally been psyopped into believing they only get uglier forever after they hit puberty.
Also I know a lot of nonnas in this thread say moids age badly because they don't do skincare but most skincare doesn't really do anything especially in the long term. Moids age badly because they have earlier senescence than women, thicker skin, balding genes etc. no matter what and on top of that they all have hormonal disorders from cooming, shit food, lack of exercise and environmental toxins. Women with good skin into older age didn't get it through 'moisturizing' either, they got it from genetics. If you want to find a moid who won't age horribly find one with a good lifestyle and good bone structure and just hope for the best.
No. 2468301
>>2468292Would be a derail of epic magnitude, so tl;dr:
>retinoic acid is a pro-differentiating and anti-proliferative agent>supraphysiological levels of retinoic acid cause rapid spending of stem and stem-like cells while blocking their renewal >because of this it's still used as chemotherapy One of the most known and visible elong term effects is premature closure of epiphyseal plates and suspended skeletal growth (I think Daniel Ratcliffe mentioned having this from an "acne medication") resulting in being short, along with permanent damage to fast renewing tissues like blood, skin and gut lining, etc
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>>2467056The palpable seething is delicious
No. 2468426
>>2468270>my previously non-shaving mom quickly got on nicknaming me 'monkey' in the late 2000s because I didn't shave my leg hair above the kneeThat really sucks nonna, I’m sorry the brainworms got to her. OTOH you don’t have to be too jealous because I got bullied for having hairy legs and arms anyway, since shaving was a normal thing to do by the time I got into my middle teens, and then my mom yelled at me at home and grounded me because I asked to shave. Damned if I do, damned if I don’t.
I do shave now because body hair on a woman makes some people here go insane and act really bitchy but I wish I didn’t have to, and I wish men here shaved their bodies instead of their heads. They look and smell like boiled eggs covered in Axe body spray.
No. 2468459
>>2468426AYRT anon and it's okay I've been on both sides too, shaver and non-shaver and honestly not shaving is better despite all the attempts to meme women into thinking everyone will totally find them disgusting and repulsive for it. People here only actively bullied ppl for not shaving when I was in high school and after that it basically stopped, other than my mom who still calls me 'monkey.' But that sounds really familiar to me, I got grounded for shaving because my mom thought my hair would grow back thicker if I shaved so she either made me wax or use those epilation creams until I showed her the severe chemical burns they gave me one day when I was like 17 and she finally 'let' me use a razor. Then I stopped shaving mostly once I moved out anyway so lol.
>I wish men here shaved their bodies instead of their heads. I feel u as a Pole. Whenever I go back home every moid seems to either be bald because of genetics or bald by choice.
>>2468442If I had seen her picture in isolation I probably would have been like 'oh no she's not very attractive poor thing' but the moid shoving his head in the frame makes her seem like a doll in comparison.
No. 2468557
>>2468474You are 100% correct about the eyes. I've noticed this too, it's easy to spot the more
toxic scrotes right away from their eyes. They just have a blank look and never emote with their eyes, it's also why most men look creepy when smiling.
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wtf are moids smoking
No. 2468989
Nonnas this is some SERIOUS delusion
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>>2467878It's not about them thinking women find him hot, his family is rich and nothing can stop making me believe he is an industry plant whose father has connections. He is not an awful actor, but wouldn't land huge roles without being a nepobaby, would he? I think he is too overrated
Besides he did a twink role once, didn't he? So I also think gay moids in industry hype him
>Looks like a starving ww2 british soldierKek he does look like one of them, you could edit him in this picture and no one would suspect
No. 2469436
>>2468254I don't remember it being this bad when I was younger too, I think social media made it a lot worse and sped up the process. It's ridiculous that you'd have to tell those guys in your band to wear proper clothes like you're their mom or something, they should know better.
>To them fictional women or e-thots are more 'real' than realityYeah just look at how so many of them unironically believe every asian woman must look like a little girl irl or like one of their anime waifus because that's their sole interaction with those women, they're completely disconnected from reality and their brains have been fried by all the porn they watched. They think being a normal non photoshopped woman= ugly even though the average moid looks far worse than any woman without makeup or filters on. They definitely wouldn't survive being trad, I remember asking some moids if they would protect their gf if she was attacked outside and all of them said they would run and worry about themselves first. So they don't even have le protector mindset despite wanting the tradwife part kek, they just want to be handed a wife without doing anything basically.
>they're raging out at feminism and complaining on reddit that their evil bangmaid stopped shaving her pubesEven on twitter a while ago I remember seeing some post where a woman was asleep next to a man on an airplane seat or something and he was making fun of her for being fat and having unshaved armpits so yeah they're full of shit when they claim they like "natural" women. They lash out even when attractive women haven't shaved for 2 days but expect you to be fine with their gross birds's nest beards.
>modern moids assume all women are whores because the only women they care about or pay attention to are literal whores. So true. Men will often say you're "privileged" as a woman and live life on easy mode because they think every woman could just sell her body and be a whore or something due to how much they interact with and see OF whores on the internet and convince themselves that's the norm for women, as if that's even something the average woman would consider doing unless she's desperate for money and attention. They don't really perceive any woman that doesn't fit into that but then turn around and screech about how there just aren't any good women anymore when the problem is more so that they just aren't fuckable enough for them to acknowledge (unless they're tradwife larpers), not all women suddenly being whores now.
Your picrel made me kek also. Imagine acknowledging you are very ugly and still feeling entitled to a 10/10 gf. Always funny how they seem to think not being able to grow a beard is a bad thing too when it just makes them look even worse.
>>2467878I've had scrotes telling me my standards must be super high if I don't find him attractive. I think it's because they assume I'll be into just any vaguely skinny male with hair on his head after I told them I don't like baldies and fat men.
No. 2469877
File: 1743468902178.jpeg (907.5 KB, 828x1415, IMG_2145.jpeg)

I saw this reel on ig a couple days ago and the comments were pretty much what I expected
>seething moids telling him he looks gay
>comments saying that he’d look better with a buzzcut
>more nagging from uggos
Granted this guy runs a looksmaxxing account but still
No. 2469891
>>2469882I straight up started respecting maxxcels when they started saying that money, status and malegazey looks are cope. I literally never expected moids to stop blaming everyone and actually work on themselves instead.
Most of them are prewall and some are not terribly hideous, so if they weren't batshit insane they'd be pretty simpable.
No. 2470090
File: 1743490862453.jpg (3.5 MB, 1080x7791, Collage_20250401_095618.jpg)

Polish women are so cucked. Decided to look up some childhood bullies and school friends on Facebook. The girl in the first set of pictures is only 26
No. 2470192
File: 1743507125758.png (22.63 KB, 197x245, asstarion.png)

The April fool's theme is spreading the truth, kek
No. 2470283
File: 1743516666707.jpg (75.13 KB, 736x900, 1000021062.jpg)

>>2466493The best decision would be to make it completely animated, they will fuck up Link's looks and give his role to Tom Holland or Timmy Chamlet.
No. 2470297
File: 1743517989398.jpeg (Spoiler Image,608.14 KB, 828x1254, IMG_4467.jpeg)

>>2469877kek holy shit at his before
No. 2470582
File: 1743540305150.jpg (294.82 KB, 1419x1179, link no.jpg)

>>2470283I heard years ago nintendo would never make a live action LOZ movie and they should stick to that because fuck these recommendations.
No. 2470616
File: 1743541632396.jpg (1.04 MB, 1080x3206, Collage_20250402_000502.jpg)

No. 2470917
>>2470136That's retarded. I'm sure they understand the danger they'll likely be in if their moid is violent towards gay and gnc men, but them being that way towards trannies is fine… because.
>>2470637I'm pretty sure it's genetic which means they're fucked for life kek
No. 2471478
>>2470917Yea they think a male fighting trannies (and losing) is based because they aren’t smart enough to understand why a male would get into a physical altercation with a crossdressing gay prostitute in the first place. It definitely isn’t to defend women kek
>>2471464I really think it’s porn addiction. Males cope saying they have to jerk off and it’s healthy because males don’t understand excess. Yeah I am sure masturbating once every two weeks is fine, but multiple times everyday? Really?
No. 2471591
>>2470616He's coping so hard even other men are telling him he's retarded kek. I'm near my 30s and I definitely care about balding. I'll even bring it up when the men aren't bald yet just to test how they react. I've asked men if they would be willing to get a hair transplant or high quality wigs if they ever started balding and if they start whining instead of immediately going "yes I would do that for you" then they're not worth it.
This whole idea that women past 25 won't care and should just have to put up with you being bald is delusional, they're in their 20s not geriatric. Most people at 25 still want to have sex and feel attracted to their partner and hair usually plays a part in that for both men and women. Men will say shit like this then wonder why their wife doesn't want to fuck them anymore once they've been together for a few years and chalk it up to women just not being interested in sex kek. It's the same as acting like a man automatically has to be attracted to his wife being obese (or some other negative trait) if he's past 25, but you won't see any of them saying that. They all think they deserve a hot wife regardless of their age, but women should have to be content with ugly bald men if they aren't in their teens anymore. They want that for women because they think what we deserve and our value to them lessens with age due to their misogyny, while a man that actually liked his wife would want the best for her and to strive to be attractive to her no matter what age she is.
Plus a lot of them are genuinely delusional and think women unironically grow to love bald heads as they get older and think into that is totally part of the female sexual maturing process, when 99% of the time it's just that older women got psyopped and beaten down into settling for that over time, rather than it having anything to do with their tastes naturally maturing. It's more like they know most men aren't willing to change and tons of them go bald so they just give up and embrace this reality instead of having an actual organic attraction to that.
No. 2471638
>>2470616KEK that level of cope and delusion, most 30+ women I know care and they're dating or are into mid 20s guys anyway. And the young girls go crazy over those cute young twinks.
If anything, it's the women 30+ who care the most because they've seen pretty men go downhill.
I'd rather be single my whole life than with a bald dude.
Btw maintenance for guys is so easy: clean yourself, wear decent clothes, workout and don't get fat, your testosterone helps you build muscle faster than any women ever could, it's biology. They can't even do the bare minimum yet women are required to look 18 forever, be skinny, wear makeup, wear nice clothes, shave, get their hair and nails done etc What for? For moids who can't even do the bare minimum? The bar is truly in hell.
>>2459301I love it when western moids seethe at cute guys, it shows that deep inside they know personality and status isn't worth shit if you're ugly.
No. 2471674
>>2471605Yup, I agree. I would say this applies to a lot of the older women in my family, unfortunately. They got married in their early to mid 20s, their husbands went bald by their 30s and they kinda just stuck with them since they already had a family together and didn't want to divorce over looks even though they're unhappy since the husband won't do anything to improve his looks. Meanwhile, the same men these women were with had no problems cheating on some of them with younger women over looks, family be damned.
I think what happens is these men confuse women's empathy, care for their family, female socialization, psyops, being told all your life not to be shallow and put men's needs first, not having your entire life ruled by sex even if you have a libido etc, with women being naturally attracted to their undesirable traits (like baldness), because they personally wouldn't have sex or stick out a marriage with someone who is unnatractive to them without cheating on them.
This is also why they'll call any woman who still cares "immature" and claim when she gets older she'll know better (read: be mentally broken and psyopped enough to stop caring) and suddenly find those ugly features attractive because that's what they saw other old women doing.
>>2471638>deep inside they know personality and status isn't worth shit if you're ugly.They always think that only applies to women and they're totally exempt from it as males, so they get really mad when they see women valuing them based off of their looks kek. Incels will claim this totally reflects the evil and shallow nature of women when it's literally just what they've been doing to women for fucking forever and not even half as bad as what they say about women.
No. 2471683
>>2471674>I think what happens is these men confuse women's empathy, care for their family, female socialization, psyops, being told all your life not to be shallow and put men's needs first, not having your entire life ruled by sex even if you have a libido etc, with women being naturally attracted to their undesirable traits (like baldness), because they personally wouldn't have sex or stick out a marriage with someone who is unnatractive to them without cheating on them. This is essentially what I was getting at. The male 'bald fat roided bearded men are hot!' cope relies on having a woman trapped in a relationship and having her be too nice and empathetic to say anything mean to them about their physical decline, and then projecting their own tendency to either leave, cheat, or browbeat their wives/gfs the second they're not attracted to them on women. They're pretty much just thinking 'I wouldn't quietly accept my wife getting fat and ugly without at least making daily mean comments about it, so if women do that they must actually think bald fat scrotes are ultra hot!'
It's either that or they know women hate fat bald scrotes but they think that talking about how good looking they are will eventually trick everyone into accepting a new beauty standard.
No. 2471844
>>2471830Can you link any research anon? Not that I doubt what you're saying but it would be good to have sources and when I was trying to answer this question myself earlier I was just bombarded with 'no it is a myth that balding could be caused by lifestyle' bs as is usually the case with any science that is inconvenient for moids in any way. Despite the fact anyone older than 25 can clearly see that men are balding earlier and earlier.
>>2471839It's because they know the women they want to get with wouldn't touch them with a 10 foot pole so they need to make up fake reasons why they don't want those women anyway. It's just the typical moid behavior of pre-empting rejection with 'no, actually, you are ugly and a bitch and I don't want you anyway!'
No. 2471858
>>2471850Thanks nonna! This seems to track with the commonly reported postpartum hair loss issue so it shouldn't be at all surprising, I wonder why so many mainstream websites say it's solely an effect of DHT when there seem to be several refs in this suggesting the effect of prolactin is well-known and validated.
>>2471855OT but it really makes me mad that there are like 5 people in the world actually studying endometriosis and PCOS while there is so much effort put into every male disease. If moids have so many scientists trying to fix hair loss for them and still aren't trying to do anything about it while it's hard to find more than 1-2 research groups helping women with PCOS they have absolutely no excuse whatsoever not to try everything in their power to stop it including ceasing to coom so much. You know that every woman with PCOS at some point read all 5 Jerilynn Prior articles and cut 80% of food out of her diet etc. to try to lose weight to look attractive but moids won't even cut down their porn use to try to stop balding.
No. 2471933
File: 1743621159089.png (37.6 KB, 1366x942, IMG_2172.png)

Found this on twitter
No. 2472154
>>2471830Well, technically excess DHT
is still the cause. It's just downstream of prolactin release, so gooning undoubtedly contributes. Known prolactin inhibitors do not seem to help male hair loss whatsoever (often causing it instead), so it's a combination of factors.
Males lose their hair because of factors they cite as the reason why they "age better" - more collagen in the skin (and therefore more fibrosis) + higher anabolic growth. Its a little known fact that male hair grows (and therefore turns over) faster. Proponents of old concepts in dermatology will tell you that it's irrelevant because you can't run out of hair and skin, but it's 100% false. Stem cell depletion and senescence does occur in skin and hair follicles, and hair greying (which occurs about a decade earlier in males) is a direct consequence of hair follicle stem cell depletion. All of the above causes irreversible fibrosis, and excess DHT simply speeds up the process.
No. 2472699
File: 1743678334127.png (342.65 KB, 1233x824, sRcX1Bk.png)

reminder that fundamentalist mormon sects literally throw out their young male members (their own sons and nephews) and leave them on the roadside, so these old men can have access to young girls to marry and abuse
No. 2472707
why the fuck does he want a buzzcut? the comments are encouraging him too. his current haircut is a little retarded but miles better than buzzing it off for no reason. other moids telling him to buzz it and trying to sabotage, the girls are commenting NO
No. 2472779
>>2472699I learned about this when I watched Keep Sweet: Pray and Obey on Netflix. There was actual footage of the excommunicated boys at some point and it was shocking there were so many who now had to integrate into a completely foreign society. I don't know how to feel about it, because on the one hand they should have raised alarms about what was going on inside the community, but on the other hand these people were so afraid and brainwashed, I'm sure the boys didn't know anything was wrong.
Terrible and sad example of community sanctioned rape, I hope Warren Jeffs' is denied parole every time and he dies in prison.
No. 2473202
File: 1743706344867.png (75.63 KB, 1029x501, X0y7XSW.png)

she's right(bait)
No. 2473205
>>2473202stop baiting, retard. We all know you are a moid
>ib4 scrotefoiling!!1!4chan scrotes literally confessed to posting bait to get the thread shutdown
No. 2473230
File: 1743708043776.jpg (112.89 KB, 1079x1080, GVWZen4XEAA11od.jpg)

>>2472699>wives as young as 13Ah so is that why child marriage is legal in most states? Mormons dominate some sections of the government
No. 2473274
File: 1743711008348.jpg (269.86 KB, 1080x852, skin thickness.jpg)

>>2473202I know this is bait, but this is completely accurate. Also, pic related is another fun fact (as predicted by the expected pleiotropic effects of faster cell turnover in males).
No. 2473412
File: 1743716546939.png (535.3 KB, 594x1712, IMG_1891.png)

>any woman would love to be married to jack black
No. 2473862
>>2473274We are really doomed
>>2473412He was not much to begin with but how? How moids let themselves go like that? They are the sex that can lose weight and gain muscle easily and yet are such lazy slobs
No. 2474450
File: 1743782553688.png (135.78 KB, 790x721, dSmdSZp.png)

does this count?
No. 2474720
>>2470616The thing that gets me about bald men is that they're so so SO incredibly neurotic about their baldness that it forms this intense complex that they will rule their entire lives.
Of bald men, there is maybe 5% of them that actually do not give a damn about being bald. 5 out of 100 bald men are totally unconcerned by it, they don't care. Another 5% are realistic, they know that they're self-conscious and they admit to it, so they take steps to address it, like wearing wigs or getting hair transplants. This 10% of bald men are okay, because they're not neurotic about it. I'd never touch or speak to one (unless absolutely necessary), but at least I can feel some modicum of respect for them since they can admit to their foible.
But 90% of bald men care very, very, deeply about being bald. They hate being bald. They wake up in the morning and the first thing they feel is anger, shame, and embarrassment about being bald. They can never, ever, admit to anyone else, ever, that they feel negatively about being bald. This complex about their baldness festers inside them for decades. No man is more angry than a bald man. No man is more hateful or loathsome than a bald man. No man is more vain or egoistic than a bald man. They spend every waking moment thinking about their lack of hair. It consumes their entire being. They will lie through their teeth day after day and say "being bald isn't bad, I like being bald, bald is sexy," but it's so painfully obvious that if tomorrow a cure for baldness appeared on the market, these men would give every single dime they own to procure that cure. That's what's so unattractive about bald men, for me anyway: it's that deep deep discomfort they all have with themselves. It's the thing that drives them to make endless websites, forums, and groups to talk about how much they "love" being bald. It's the neurosis that drives them to spew endlessly about how "women are attracted to bald men," because they think that somehow, someway, repeating a lie ad nauseam will make it reality.
Baldness should be a crime punishable by public immolation.
No. 2474804
File: 1743799968183.png (836.39 KB, 733x765, walled.png)

Saw this and it reminded me of this thread
No. 2474832
>>2474824Men redden with age for some reason, most noticeably in white and asian men but it seems to appear faster in pale white moids.
I think it looks worse when they’re redheaded or blond.
No. 2474866
>>2470637Prolactin raises whenever men ejaculate. It’s to facilitate the ejection of semen just like how milk is ejected. Prolactin increases the rate of male-pattern balding exponentially and also converts the young man’s T to DHT (the form associated with hair loss that treatments like finasteride target) which funnily enough also makes the face and body hairier in comparison. Men with porn addictions have more prolactin. Thus depraved moids exhibit faster balding rates, as well as a higher propensity for gynaecomastia (man boobs). Elevated prolactin is also associated with irritability, hostility, and depression. It also tends to cause weight gain in men, and actually steadily increases with male age. Also, considering the fact men’s T levels are lowering, this indicates that the larger numbers of baldies are probably not solely due to T converting to DHT, but significantly to prolactin.
In conclusion, men who bald faster should be shamed
more actually, because you can definitely “look” like a porn addict. Don’t trust bald moids, they are probably like double the likelihood of being gross rapeapes.
No. 2474875
File: 1743803593175.jpg (587.93 KB, 1080x1498, 1000135531.jpg)

No they're not no they're not no they're not
No. 2474938
File: 1743806320966.jpg (105.38 KB, 1200x900, kys gly neandermoid.jpg)

Reminder that you cannot be a feminist without rejecting the ugly male.
Scrotes have been forcibly pushing their ugly old horny moid with attractive young woman fantasy for decades.
The Joy of Sex was the first mainstream sex education guide for normies and what do you know, the scrote who wrote it had all the illustrations look like his ugly neanderthal self. This is literal scrote brainwashing in action.
Roundhouse kick ugly men. Total ugly man death.
No. 2474947
File: 1743806550095.webp (83.19 KB, 360x540, 675249-crypt_keeper_large.webp)

>>2474875Someone put this hideous, gay and raped, balding decrepit cryptkeeper looking fruitcake back in the Smithsonian exhibit where he belongs.
No. 2474962
File: 1743807057682.png (1016.21 KB, 995x1180, Screenshot 2025-03-31 at 21.59…)

>>2474954What's nice is knowing that women aren't really falling for it, despite what twitter bots, Hollywood and the porn industry wants you to believe. Old balding men will never be sexy.
>saw this post on instagram and it had thousands of comments from women mocking it and saying stuff like 'The Baldacity' kek No. 2474975
File: 1743807426445.jpg (5.39 KB, 189x266, main_google_image_holy_fucking…)

>>2474875Why would moids want the most exaggerated and ridiculous example of a "receding hairline" representing them? This is another example of how every single male is completely face blind, even to their own gender. This is one of the most physically off-putting actors in hollywood, which is probably why he was cast to play a (likable) cowboy ghoul. Moids just see that he is likable, a decent actor and assume that also means he is attractive and sexy to women. His main google image illustrates my point
No. 2474978
File: 1743807612037.webp (283.69 KB, 1080x1440, Walton_Goggins_Image.webp)

>>2474975Even with a full head of hair he would still look fucking horrifying and hideous. Wtf is that weirdass braying donkey phenotype that so many famous American moids have, that maxillary excess that makes them look like a mule? Is it the toilet bowl veneers or something?
Anyway he needs to stick to horror roles, he has the face for it.
No. 2474984
File: 1743807923714.webp (81.95 KB, 689x1200, chris-pine-aug-2016.webp)

>>2474875>>2474978A large forehead is an instant ick in a moid.
Chris Pine's forehead literally ruins his entire face (he's not genuinely attractive imo anyway but his sevenhead makes him look genuinely comical, he would go up 2 attractiveness points if it was 5cm shorter)
No. 2474994
>>2474875I haven't seen a single person saying this except this fag that was posted earlier in the thread
>>2468989They're really trying hard to make the bar for males even lower aren't they kek. Now you can't even say receding hairlines are ugly because it's "suddenly sexy". Now that I think about it, it's like the reverse phenomenon of how women every few months get told a normal feature on their body looks bad and they should feel insecure about it. Men will get these psyops like rat ugly, medium ugly, big noses, receding hairlines, dad bods, etc while women's features just get nitpicked to hell even when they're just inoffensive features like hip dips or something.
No. 2475011
File: 1743808702818.png (3.91 MB, 2509x1192, Screenshot 2025-04-05 at 00.09…)

>>2470637No you are definitely right nona. 80% of men I see are either bald or balding now. It's like a conspiracy.
When you look at old photos, you won't really find a man who is totally bald, especially one who is under 40. Only the old men are ever bald.
Nowadays it feels like it's completely common for men to be severely balding by 25 and totally bald by 35.
I think porn addiction is probably the main culprit.
Also look at how much more masculine looking the average man was back then. Heavy brow ridges, strong cheekbones, 'hunter eyes', good strong jaws, rectangular or square faces mainly, normal weight, hardly any cueballs or chrome domes. Yes some of them are still balding but they're older men mostly.
Nowadays men are all fat or pudgy, bald with round faces, no cheekbones, thin hair, and weak slack jaws.
No. 2475045
He is cute, I need more pretty alt moids.
No. 2475070
>>2474804all men age into the same guy. they lose their hair, their coloring, and eyebrows and it erases all unique characteristics and any semblance of an identity they had in youth.
i think the army shaving recruits to take away their individuality and create a homogenous mass was borrowed from the way males age.
No. 2475088
File: 1743811467496.jpg (27.39 KB, 259x383, Shallowhalmovieposter.jpg)

>>2473412He literally stared in a movie about a hideous scrote who's ''hypnotized'' to fall for a fat woman. But we are supposed to be kind to this scrote? they are never kind to their looksmatch.
No. 2475093
>>2475088This. He literally humiliates, denigrates and dehumanizes fat women for the entirety of that movie despite being a fat lump of shit himself.
Ugly/fat men will NEVER cape for ugly/fat women. They hate their looksmatch with a burning passion.
No. 2475105
>>2475093That's literally the point of the movie.
Thats literally the point of the movie. That's why they purposely casted them homely.
No. 2475123
>>2475083It's a man.
>>2475106You sound jealous. (I thought he was russian)
No. 2475138
File: 1743812623152.png (2.94 MB, 2503x1116, Screenshot 2025-04-05 at 01.21…)

>>2475035Nope he literally just looks like that nona kek.
Also Walton Goggins is the ugliest name I've ever heard.
No. 2475146
>>2475131Don't bother explaining yourself. This thread is filled with diagnosed autistics. The whole movie was made to criticize that guy about being shallow hence the title.
Can we talk about things that are actually
valid.
Like that movie scott pilgrim where the love ineterest us a conventially pretty UNDERAGE girl and the male lead is like in college and ugly
(learn2integrate) No. 2475154
File: 1743812888172.jpg (130.21 KB, 1080x1350, 476902767_1033791155250690_462…)

>>2475141Nona thats literally just shaved hairstyles showing which clan you belonged to kek. Shaving your head a specific way could also show which warlord you agreed to serve under. Vikings and Mongols did the same. It was a test of loyalty.
Remember when Chinese moids always had that ugly bald in the front with the long thick braid hairstyle in the 1800s when they came over to work the railroads in America? That's to mark that they submitted to the Manchu/Qing rulers.
No. 2475212
File: 1743815129117.webp (23.18 KB, 599x378, 15-The-Curving-Tips-Hitler-Hai…)

This ugly hitler youth haircut has been clitblocking me since i was a teen. I am in a class of 200 students in uni and only ONE scrote doesnt have this shitty haircut and or its slavic coconut head counterpart. Why are moids allergic to having longish hair now? its literally what kill any attracting towards moids for me. I cannot stand buzzcuts in scrotes.
No. 2475226
File: 1743815596157.jpg (52.44 KB, 460x648, azVE1qZ_460s.jpg)

>>2475212hitler youth haircuts are hot, its not the haircuts fault that most men are ugly and dysgenic these days and dont have the skull shape or facial structure to pull it off.
No. 2475237
File: 1743815946643.webp (17.23 KB, 465x279, 1823.webp)

>>2475131The point doesnt make sense because the fattie still mogs him.
No. 2475239
>>2475237not in moids delusional worldview.
they think obese jack black is a 7/10 whereas fat gwyn is a -3000/10
No. 2475255
File: 1743816646898.jpg (Spoiler Image,230.01 KB, 1079x1434, 72.jpg)

>>2374142Holy shit yes. You get me nona. I'm extremely late, but I'm glad someone else shares my weird baseball uniform fetish. Baseball pants are apparently so see-through that MLB players are actually upset about it. Which is fucking hilarious to me. If female volleyball players have to wear microshorts, then male baseball players have to keep wearing translucent pants. It's only fair.
No. 2475268
File: 1743817268793.jpg (47.44 KB, 444x321, 1000005729.jpg)

personally i hated popularity of long hair on men in the mid 2000s and on. early justin beiber lookin fags. maybe if men actually styled and took care of their long hair it could be passible but the vast majority only have long hair b/c they are too lazy to cut it let alone style it
No. 2475327
File: 1743819208198.png (72.05 KB, 754x475, 68117.png)

>>2474875Here's the turbo pickme who wrote this (or who was paid to write this by Goggins' agent). Why am I not even remotely surprised that this retarded take came from a Chappell Roan fan?
No. 2475418
>>2475226It makes males look like overgrown toddlers.
>>2475255Not see-through enough. Males are such cry babies.
No. 2475519
>>2474666Small roidpigs are particularly disgusting. Then again they are gay and do it for other gay men.
>>2474938He looks like a Neanderthal.
No. 2475982
>>2475300Back when he came to fame, I'm not sure I saw any girl older than 16 into him either, male kids and teenagers would mock him too, but it was not comparable to the adult moids literally seething while none of the women in their age range had strong opinions about him either way.
>>2475212Whatever this man has done, I hope he gets death penalty, he deserves for the mustache.
No. 2476006
>>2475045>Burzum shirt with Varg on itCRIIINGEEEE and shit metal taste tbh, you're polish dude, that fat pedo Varg probably thinks you're a subhuman and not “white” enough kek.
He is cute through.
No. 2476131
>>2475300Now I often see them trying to spin it into fake-concern
>back then sooo many middle-aged hags were lusting after him, no wonder he turned out like this!when in reality it was all little preteen girls who liked him, while other moids molested him
No. 2476154
>>2475116>asian men respond the best to dht-blocking shampoo and drugs like propecia. In the last thread somebody wrote that something like finasteride is very commonly taken by korean moids because to them balding is much less acceptable. Meanwhile western moids don't even bother because muh possible side effects. Women do so much, yet they're not even willing to try the bare minimum that could result in such a huge change (same when it comes to birth control).
Some of them claim to be suicidal because of their balding, they try to psyop us endlessly about it and yet they rather shave it all off at 20 than take a little pill.
No. 2476384
File: 1743878994305.webp (346.38 KB, 800x1200, IMG_2312.webp)

The only things he does is act obnoxious and make corny music. He looks like he’s got some extra chromosomes and somehow there’s a bunch of grown women giving him 1D treatment. The bar is low low.
No. 2476481
File: 1743884061112.jpg (64.95 KB, 586x588, 1743864884005879.jpg)

(repost)
No. 2476492
File: 1743885004899.jpg (108.63 KB, 736x917, 1d8f913715187f9a5c16791cd03d68…)

>>2475268>>2475280I wish that hairstyle was back in vogue, it was so popular in the 90's and only truly hot moids can pull it off which it makes easier to select them
No. 2476499
File: 1743885363533.jpeg (194.07 KB, 1169x901, IMG_4791.jpeg)

they’re somehow more fucking busted than the original beatles. is that barry creature even human? what the fuck is this face
No. 2476509
File: 1743886067670.png (71.82 KB, 295x340, eggplant.png)

>>2476499soviet liberator phenotype
No. 2476521
File: 1743886692557.webp (18.37 KB, 600x499, IMG_7246.webp)

>>2476499The Beatles weren't even that busted (except for Ringo, but he's still more appealing than the creature they cast for him). I mean women screamed and fainted at their concerts. You're telling me those four mongoloids would pass for a wildly successful boy band? Whatever happened to that stereotype of the actor in the biopic being way more attractive than the original person?
No. 2476539
File: 1743887413579.jpg (41.19 KB, 328x500, uglyhair.jpg)

>>2475226Of course it will look good in that moid. It's propaganda, so he was handpicked for being handsome kek. Picrel shows how they looked like. Btw it's really hard to find pictures of them without a helmet
>>2475305Nazis didn't have buzzcuts, like again, picrel. No way they would shave their hair short and risk looking like a concentration camp inmate. The Hitler Youth hair was only shaved on behind so the helmet could fit or something like that. The Japanese actually had a buzzcut as standard
No. 2476546
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>>2476521I think in every recent biopic, the actors have been pretty offensive compared to the original artists. The last flattering one was "walk the line", and in that case the actors practiced for over a year, sang their own vocals and reese was handpicked by JCC to play her. I think these are just low effort money grabs/sell offs to appeal to international streaming audiences while they still can. If this band were asian, white viewers wouldn't notice or realize how weird or dissimilar the actors look and most studio money has come from china in the past 20 years. Since they've established their own film/tv industry with more relatable stories and characters, only brand name recognition/cape shit still sells there. This will be a funny flop tho, it reminds me a bit of the liberace movie bc of how ridiculous the soviet liberator one looks but that movie was self-aware, funny and entertaining so this can go in the "weird al biopic" pile
No. 2476560
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>>2476535I think it's also genetics, plenty of old asian guys with full (black) hair who grew old way before nowadays high beauty standards. They also don't eat as unhealthy and are much less likely to be obese. It's young gaming and porn addicted korean moids who are suddenly becoming as fat and bald as western moids (but at least they still get bullied for it).
I posted this ages ago but the countries with the most baldies are the same countries there moids drink insane amounts of beer (and eat lots of meat) and I definitely think there's a link between that and early balding.
No. 2476635
I've come to the realization that nobody is more scared of aging than moids.
Yes, women don't like turning 30 and are unhappy about not having a model's body or perfect skin, but that's because society and media is doing their best to make them feel awful 24/7. And nevertheless most still try to make the best out of what they've got.
Meanwhile moids are so terrified of ending up alone, meaning without a caretaker slave (+ children), that they create entire movements to try and shame or scare women into being with them:
>females hit the wall at 25, while men age like fine wine! at 50, i haven't even reached my peak yet!
>no female over 25 actually cares about a man being bald and if they do, they're vapid bitches!
>filipino girls are so hot and loyal and trad and skinny, plus they absolutely love white men! one day i'm gonna settle down there.
All of that screams "Hurry up and take me! Otherwise you're either gonna die alone (with cats) or you'll have to settle with a grandpa who still has plenty of options!" when in reality it's them who desperately need women and worry that they can't trap one before their body starts breaking down at 40 or 50.
If they don't succeed in finding a poor blind girl, they instead start memeing themselves into hating women and becoming blackpilled Tatefag gymbros - which essentially is just trying to distract themselves from the hurt of not getting what they actually want, while "looksmaxxing" (but for the male gaze). Sometimes they cope so hard that they turn gay.
The only women as vain and vulnerable to their own mortality as them are teen fakebois and botched celebrities. Everybody else is mostly trying to stay somewhat fit and healthy, without feeling the need to scheme and to trick others.
No. 2476638
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>>2476625No, nobody beats Europe. And especially those countries that are also extremely high up on the other list, like e.g. Czech Republic.
Plus I feel like beer is especially bad (mostly consumed by moids and also causes the worst bellies), Asian prefer other types of alcohol.
No. 2476996
>>2476724Also in some of the euro-countries that consume a lot of alcohol it's 1. consumed almost equally by women (not the case for some other countries with high consumption) and 2. frequently consumed more casually around mealtimes etc. whereas a lot of the East Asian countries with high alcohol consumption pretty much just start drinking once their overtime is done at 8-9pm and drink hard liquor to blackout drunkenness which also has different physiological effects than having a glass of wine/beer or two at lunch and then at dinner and then later at night.
>doesn’t explain why the teetotaling Middle East is fat and bald if alcohol was the culprit.I don't know how true this is of all middle eastern countries but my friends from the Middle East said a lot of moids got really drunk all the time even though it was illegal. I'm not even agreeing with the nonna who said this is all due to alcohol consumption but I wouldn't be surprised if the alcohol consumption in many Middle Eastern countries was actually much higher than reported; there's a lot of smuggling.
No. 2477019
>>2476724>>2476996>once their overtime is done at 8-9pm and drink hard liquor to blackout drunkenness…and then they're laying around all over the streets of Tokyo, yes we know, we were all weebs.
Nevertheless there
is a difference between 7 and 13. Why is it that so many can't accept that Nippon is not the most extreme, worse, pityful, whatever? Yesterday it was the same in another thread about birth rates. In both cases in all statistics they always only rank 50ish. Plus what you paint as sweet and chill daydrinking during lunch is in reality them being permadrunk 24/7. So many moids get their first beer at 7/8 am, continue throughout the day and then switch to harder stuff after work.
I also don't understand what your point was? I said nobody consumes more than euros (which is proven true), especially beer (again true) and conincidentally those are also the countries with the worst balding, therefore I will continue believing that it correlates.
No. 2477038
>>2477019I've never been a weeb and I'm not sure about Japan but I have quite a few Chinese and Korean friends who described the drinking culture there and it was like nothing I ever experienced in Eastern Europe as an Eastern European.
>sweet and chill daydrinking during lunch is in reality them being permadrunk 24/7Not in my experience tbh, not saying it doesn't happen but coming from a Euro culture where people drink quite a lot, the vast majority of people were not 'permadrunk.' Tolerance also factors into this and bigger people have much higher tolerance, especially if they are used to drinking moderately at multiple points during the day. Compare your average Estonian male who's 6 foot tall to your average Chinese moid who's 5'7 and probably comparatively skinny and a 30-50% difference in total yearly alcohol consumption by volume isn't as massive when you factor in the comparative body weight and size.
I wasn't really making any specific point and I wasn't the person originally arguing about Asia having the highest alcohol consumption, I'm just pointing out that you can't just look at total alcohol consumption alone without considering other factors. I haven't actually seen any evidence at all that alcohol consumption directly causes balding; other nonnas pointed out it could be related to plagues (maybe), it could be related to wife-hoarding by agrarian societies earlier in human evolution, it could be related to testosterone/DHT levels or it could be related to cooming and porn consumption. You can believe it correlates to total amount of alcohol consumed if you want to but there are tons of more viable and realistic hypotheses.
No. 2477257
>>2476521I think anon meant they are more busted thant The Beatles as they current are, including the dead ones.
>>2476499None of these actors are older than 35, the first one and the third one aren't even 30 yet. How?
No. 2477585
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I never realized how bad the current state of the UMP is until I realized the last attractive scrotes I saw in anything live action were picrel when I was 7 or so. I don't really watch normie shit though so maybe there are some hidden gems I don't know about though.
No. 2477603
>>2477585I believe a huge part of it is shilling of ugly sexist nerds (like in shows like Big Bang Theory) and fearmongering about hot guys (like that tan cute boy on the right) being all bad guys who'd hurt you and cheat on you. The only "young" athletic guys that moids deem acceptable for women are balding, bearded gymbros.
I also remember many more "feminine" boys and men being on tv when I was a child (e.g. all those bands who wore makeup), meanwhile now every male on tv is either hyper masculine or obviously a fag/troon. We unironically went backwards so much.
No. 2477612
>>2477603Based and correct
>>2477605Really? I always thought they were cute and I know a lot of women who agree with me on that, maybe ugly moids are so common in the mainstream though that even average guys seem attractive kek
No. 2478023
>>2478013They understand very well what women find attractive, actually. You can clearly see that from the type of man that sends them into blistering jealous rage. They just think that if they manifest "women love musclepigs" enough it will become true, that they can sort of sissy-hypno you into internalizing it.
The male mind fundamentally operates on wishful thinking and pleasant self-deception - how they'd like things to be instead of how they really are, which is a major source of their suffering.
No. 2478099
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbG05ePWRQE&t=2s Ladies I’d like to introduce you to the most delicious seething comment section I have ever been blessed with encountering.
It is interesting to me how male height has been something that the ugly male psyop has never been able to eradicate. Of course I’ve seen pickmes say (publically of course) that they love short kings and yada yada, but a male being taller than the woman has always seemed to be constantly attractive, an untouchable. I need you nonnies to read through these comments, thousands of likes a pop by the way, of the pure, unfiltered seething rage that males exude when their ugly male psyop can’t penetrate through an attractive constant to women, being taller as a male. This type of seethe and vitriol over what women find sexually attractive is WHY they psyop women. We don’t get to see it very often. They’re so collectively off their rocker.
No. 2478141
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>>2477585I find robbie uggo but i miss when the stereotypical nerdy guys in fiction were cute like Sid in Skins and Dave in the live action Kickass. I hate what the bazinga theory did to the male nerd fantasy. Like no, i dont want a greasy realistic nerdy faggot who masturbates to lolis and is balding, i want a qte guy whose shy and has glasses. At least japan still understands the appeal, but the west is completly doomed.
No. 2478162
>>2478146I genuinely find South Park less offensive than the Big Bang Theory. At least when Cartman says bigoted things, he eventually gets some kind of comeuppance. Whereas the guys on Big Bang Theory can commit literal sex crimes against Penny and for some reason
she ends up apologizing to
them. The show's defenders will say that we're meant to be laughing
at Sheldon, not
with him when he makes sexist remarks, but it never affects how he's treated in-universe, and I
really doubt these people would be making excuses for Sheldon if instead of saying shit like
>Marie Curie had a penis made of sciencehe said
>Astrophysics made Neil deGrasse Tyson an honorary white manBut for some reason women are an acceptable minority to treat like trash, so long as you create a thin pretext of it being "a joke." What exactly is the joke supposed to be? "Teehee, it's funny that Sheldon is a raging bigot who faces no consequences for his bigotry?" Every moid who wrote for that show needs to rounded up and sent to a Chinese labor camp.
No. 2478230
>>2477896I love how looksmaxxing moids and incels always act like it's some huge secret and surprise and shock that woman are attracted to attractive men and not hideous ogres. Like don't they know from personal experience that you are attracted to attractive people, not ugly people?
>>2478099I actually don't fully agree with this. I think the obsession with male height has more to do with the psyopping of women that they should be smaller, skinnier, frailer and weaker than the moids they are next to, to as large a degree as possible. Of course a moid being taller than a woman is generally going to be considered normal/attractive because moids are on average like half a foot taller than women at least, but that doesn't mean the taller a moid is the more attractive he is to most women. The women I knew who were attracted specifically to male height over other features were always insecure women. Maybe I just don't get it though because I'm tall (like average moid height) and I've always been most attracted to moids approximately my own height (when they're too much taller I felt dwarfed and overpowered and found it harder to make eye contact, kiss, etc). Not saying moid rage about height preference isn't funny, but I don't think height preference is especially important or even particularly biologically ingrained, it's just normal that on average males are significantly taller than their female counterparts so that's the norm in most relationships.
I've seen a lot of tall but ugly moids try to psyop women into believing they're attractive just because they're tall, which is a mini-psyop of its own. I think it's the same reason why the roidpig psyop exists, because moids think that just by being larger and looking like they can easily overpower a woman they will automatically become more attractive, but this is really only true for a certain subset of women. They're trying to take advantage of the fact that they have shamed women for being naturally fatter than men and also take advantage of the protection racket patriarchy created where women feel like they need a big protector moid to protect her from.. other moids. But at the end of the day a lot of women will prefer a slim, average height, pretty moid who's reasonably fit over a tall uggo or a muscular uggo.
No. 2478252
>>2478142Honestly I thought it was popular/funny to people because it seemed self-aware. In most mass media prior to BBT nerds always seemed to presented as these cute, shy, nice, vaguely sexless beings who were just really smart and dedicated to their interests and sweet which had no relationship to any 'nerd' boys/men I'd ever met irl, so I chalked up the popularity of BBT's humor to the fact it was actually open about the fact nerd men are often not even smart academically, and also disgusting sexist pigs. I didn't watch enough of it to know how the plotlines ended up but I thought 'this what nerds are actually like, retards' was supposed to be the joke.
>"Teehee, it's funny that Sheldon is a raging bigot who faces no consequences for his bigotry?" Seems like the premise of most popular sitcoms. Anyway I'm grateful for the Big Bang Theory for at least not contributing to the ugly male psyop since it depicted ugly men as also having completely repulsive personalities and being retarded.
No. 2478700
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Its always the most ugly ass men who go “alpha male” This dude looks like dried gum on the pavement
No. 2479077
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He walled so bad kek
No. 2479640
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>>2479637Oh hell no.
I take it all back, Pedro Pascal is a sex god compared to this… thing.
No. 2479676
>>2479672I don't think he has, but the
nonny above me mentioned 'Conan fangirls' so I just provided a visual aid.
No. 2479679
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>>2479676What about this?
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No. 2480185
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God, I just can't stand "dirty" blonde / dark blonde hair color on men, it looks like some disgusting seaweed to me.
No. 2480248
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It astonishes me when I realize that literally malnourished and homeless moids in the Great Depression looked better than nowadays moids.
No. 2480261
>>2480227I actually know a few young male birdwatchers, and they actually aren't nerds at all, they're generally outdoorsy types (for obvious reasons I guess). Never met a stamp collector personally but I'd guess they are all 80.
>>2480248>literally malnourished and homeless moids>posts picture of rich moids with jobsIdk, I highly doubt malnourished homeless men from the 1930s looked all that much better than moids today. If the trait you hate the most in a moid is being fat that might be true but rotting teeth, severely underdeveloped jaws, hunchbacks, etc. were pretty common for impoverished people in the early 20th century.
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>>2480261Yeah you are right, I hate fatness in moids but not only that. For me it's the epitome of laziness for them when they are supposed to be athletic and can lose weight with ease
>but rotting teeth, severely underdeveloped jaws, hunchbacks, etc. were pretty common for impoverished people in the early 20th centuryNow we have fat and balding porn addicted mouthbreathers, sadly. I should have specified but I was talking about the city moids, not the redneck which was a product of incest. It's not just their weight, but they used to have full hair, dress elegantly and have the decency to keep clean shaved and have slicked back hair or at least combed. Not saying that all moids were handsome but at least there was effort, even if you were in your worst
No. 2480300
>>2479724They don't get that you could technically have that with a guy you're actually into, he doesn't have to be a hideous ogre to treat you well at all and more often than not ugly men treat women like shit too anyways once they think they've got you locked in.
You could date a guy you find attractive
and still have him be more into you than you are into him, it's not always this extreme black and white scenario like the psyop would lead people to believe where the second you're attracted to a male he's going to have the entire control in the relationship and you'll be clinging to his approval, he'll break your heart, etc. If you're dating a man you find attractive and he finds you attractive as well he'll still want to do shit for you if he actually likes you, and you'll also have leverage in the relationship instead of it being one sided. The whole "you don't care about him as much as he does for you" attitude is something you can have in
any relationship with a male too, you could genuinely like him and think he's hot but still not be a clingy gf he'll feel put off by and still know you have plenty of options (more than he does because you're a woman).
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>>2480418thank you nona gimme kiss
No. 2481157
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we need to return
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>>2481157meanwhile, millennial moids
No. 2481631
>>2481598I'll write it out so no one else has to waste brain cycles pondering the masculine mystique. Who you are in the ecosystem dictates how you behave. Rabbits are fearful because they're prey. Dogs are bootlickers because they're domesticated pack animals. Because of their reproductive niche, human males have a zero sum sexual parasite mentality. "Gay" just means "submissive", same as "cuck", because the receptive partner is the host/L taker/sucka/you name it. That's why the vast majority of males think it's not gay if you top. It's submissive to women to dress in a way that pleases women, therefore it's gay, like washing your ass. "Masculinity" has no concrete, cross-culturally applicable definition besides "irrational defiance of whatever women appear to want". The need to exaggerate dimorphism and establish a palpably artificial male cultural identity emerge from this, and society is expected to tiptoe around these ever-changing sensibilities to prevent a mass coom chimpout or ease coom chimps into common sense prosocial acts (Real men don't rape! Real men wash hands! MANLY CHAD ass wipes! MAN yogurt!) - which is clocked as manipulative pandering every time as it is not accompanied by genuine female distress and submissive deference.
Yes, that was a tangent/dig at anti-idpol leftoids and their fucktarded idea that the only thing keeping them from winning is their "messaging problem" with young men.Moid psychology is remarkably simple once you reduce it to its bare bones - a parasite's contradictory anxieties about potentially having to meet the requirements (defenses) of the host, and possibly failing.
No. 2481659
>>2481644No, that's behavioral ecology. Postmodernism would be the gender studies perspective/social constructionism. Zoom out far enough and everything is about very base things like resource availability and mortality salience, especially human delusions of being anything more than an animal.
You are a resource to males and troons (more broadly, left wing males) being what they are is unironically the best real world demonstration of this fact.
No. 2481660
>>2481598They told each other this.
>>2481631Perfect summary nonna. 'Femininity' is pretty much 'anything inconvenient or harmful that signals subservience to males' and 'Masculinity' is 'defiance of what women appear to want in order to signal subservience as little as possible.'
>>2481644Of course humans are more complicated than animals but the basic principle still holds, and we're in a thread here that basically exists purely to make generalizations and discuss commonalities among human males so it's relevant to talk about one of the most common and generally applicable dynamics even when it doesn't apply to 100% of all the males of our species perfectly. What in her post was a 'pomo bdsm-fag troon' perspective and how so?
>>2481653>Think of how differently a domesticated dog will turn out in a violent/aggressive home vs a loving one. Depends on the dog. A pitbull or XL bully will likely maul a cat, baby or several adults regardless of the perfect and loving home it's in, whereas other dog breeds will remain sweet and submissive even to the vilest owners. Male behavior in humans isn't all nurture just like dog behavior isn't, and sadly all surviving males are likely to have rapists among their ancestors so we don't have human versions of the bred-to-be-docile dog breed.
No. 2481682
>>2481669It doesn't matter how you perceive your role. This is how males perceive it, consciously or not. Male perception is not reality, it's an adaptation to push them towards an evolutionary goal.
On a biological level, successful sexual reproduction consists of one organism monopolizing the somatic resources of another to 3d print more approximations of itself. You are arguing that this is a matter of perspective (such as individual relationship dynamics or culture), making your viewpoint the postmodern one. It doesn't matter if it's a submissive womanpeen knocking up the mighty man-uterus, a handmaid slave being bred like cattle, an empowered girlboss having it all with an unemployed stay at home redditor, a caring tradfather creating beloved children with his divine feminine St. Mary incarnate or whatever else. These are all branding and human cultural delusions, not the actual physical process.
No. 2481684
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>>2479753I still remember that moment kek, I was just watching the show I didn't know who played him. What a disappointment. Same thing with the Halo tv show. Man, just keep that helmet on.
No. 2481688
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Thoughts? I don't find Namor in marvel rivals that attractive, and while I think venom is hot, I don't care for Marvel Rival's interpretation of him
No. 2481697
>>2481674It's empirically true that "not all men are like this", actually. There are even humans who genuinely don't care about food, shelter or survival. There are humans who are physiologically unable to feel pain. This is all possible.
It's also true by definition that these traits can't be anything but vanishingly rare, because commonly lacking the mechanisms that push you to feed, breed and avoid stuff that hurts also means there can't be 9 billion of you.
No. 2481742
>>2481682>Postmodernism is a cultural, philosophical, and artistic movement that began in the mid-20th century. It's characterized by a skepticism of grand narratives, a suspicion of reason, and a sensitivity to ideology. Postmodernism is also known as a reaction to modernismNow that's out of the way,
>You are arguing that this is a matter of perspective (such as individual relationship dynamics or culture), making your viewpoint the postmodern one.No I'm arguing with the anon who said
>>2481631>"Gay" just means "submissive", >That's why the vast majority of males think it's not gay if you top.>because the receptive partner is the host/L taker/sucka/you name it.Sounds like a "matter of perspective", since not all gays are submissive fags and I don't know any who think it's "not gay" to top? Yet for some reason you inform me that
>It doesn't matter if it's a submissive womanpeen knocking up the mighty man-uterus, a handmaid slave being bred like cattle, an empowered girlboss having it all with an unemployed stay at home redditor, a caring tradfather creating beloved children with his divine feminine St. Mary incarnate or whatever else. These are all branding and human cultural delusions, not the actual physical process.>>2481722It felt that way for a second but it's just another case of "anons can't read". My issue is with people who are terminally online (in general) reducing everything to dominance/submission bc yaoi and porn are like that
No. 2481770
>>248170710%? Try 0.01% kek
>>2481712Why neanderthal moids in particular kek?
No. 2481773
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>>2481688The walled moid in the video is deliberately missing the point for ragebait engagement because that's what tiktok's algorithm is built on. Him being walled also plays into the ragebait.
The male characters are not modeled to be masturbated to or to be put into sfm porn, they're just played for laughs, whereas the female characters are designed for that purpose because male gamers like it when women are humiliated, so devs make sure to model female characters' outfits as "easy access" as possible. Whether their body types are lolis like the Elin from TERA, or vidrel's "thicc" body types kek, the outfits all follow the same rule of being titillating and easy access.
Tbf comic books have already had a long history of female humiliation where superheroines would always be drawn tied up or with their outfits torn off going "Oh no!" "Eek!" (Collectors would look for "GGA" on listings because it stands for "Good Girl Art" and means that a woman is drawn being humiliated within that issue). Gamers and comic book fans combined were always going to just bat for the ultimate coomer designs for female characters. They were raised on it and enjoy the purpose of the mediums being something that humiliates women. When a male friend of mine, a longtime comic collector, started sexually harassing me about 8 years into our friendship, I stole several of his collectors items as a punishment. He knew it was me and has just accepted he will never get them back nor be able to purchase them again.
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>>2481766A classic biker gay, leather daddy or bear off the top of my head. Not the post 2010 tif/gender special kind tho. There are leather daddies who only fuck other leather daddies and bears who only fuck other bears. The gay scrote dating world is full of degenerate variety outside of "sub" and "dom" classification. The reason they all end up speaking the same and using the same mannerisms after hanging out with other gay guys is bc of the culture they created larping as black women, who they perceive as "masculine" (we know this bc they tell us and force-team with troons constantly and straight troons pretend to be little white or asian girls). So it is more complicated than "man" and "woman" (or dominant/submissive), imo the most likely to enact those roles are "hetero" pornsick males who use grindr when their spouse is away. They are the most likely to shy away from a bear advertising his "strong man hole" and will prefer a twink or troon (who is consuming the same type of porn everyday, so can be on the same page as him)
>>2481770Just a feeling I guess. They seem like pretty big sub/dom fags, which makes for a boring species. Denisovan I think would be more egalitarian and engage in more "walking marriage" type sexual courtship
No. 2481858
>>2481697More importantly, the non-ascetic men who are not like that aren't like that because they have no need for the male crabs in a bucket mentality, not because they were 'raised right and told not to grab food out of people's hands.' The 'what if we just raise men to be nice and good' attitude is what created the phenomenon of 'male feminists,' who know exactly what they're supposed to say to seem different than 'those other men' while actually being exactly the same or worse after they think they've locked down a woman.
The result of the pomo mentality of 'we can just train men to be better, like dogs' is modern liberal feminism. I know oldschool radfems largely had a tabula rasa mentality too but at least they were generally less retarded and didn't think that further coddling boys and asking them politely to stop acting on their male instincts was going to solve all the problems of human sexual dynamics.
The 'not like that men' you're describing who genuinely don't care about food, shelter or survival are either brain damaged or they're the first group I mentioned, the exceptionally high-IQ ones who manage to rise above their base human nature (a lot of ascetics, monks, priests, etc. of old were probably in this category as well as some great scientists and artists). They're spergs basically.
No. 2481871
>>2481742NTA but she was correct about postmodernism and grabbing one simplistic two-sentence quote off Wikipedia thinking it contradicts what she said when it doesn't isn't the sick burn you think it is. 'It's a matter of perspective' is in fact the postmodernist view in a nutshell:
>Postmodernists deny that there are aspects of reality that are objective; that there are statements about reality that are objectively true or false; that it is possible to have knowledge of such statements (objective knowledge); that it is possible for human beings to know some things with certainty; and that there are objective, or absolute, moral values. Reality, knowledge, and value are constructed by discourses; hence they can vary with them. Now that's out of the way,
>not all gays are submissive fagsShe was describing the male perception and mentality.
>I don't know any who think it's "not gay" to top?I do and it's actually a fairly common idea throughout human history - before there was even a concept of 'gay' or sexuality, cultures like Ancient Greece and Rome had 'masculine' men topping catamites and considering it a completely normal element of (straight) masculinity. In modern 'prison gay' scenarios the receivers are called prison bitches and considered gay but the men penetrating them are, generally, not and often see it as a way to exert their masculinity.
>My issue is with people who are terminally online (in general) reducing everything to dominance/submissionShe didn't, she said men did. Do you have any really compelling counterevidence showing that moids don't think that, some alternative reason why the men in the screenshots were calling the chinos-and-a-sweater outfits the woman said she liked 'gay'? The screenshot had absolutely nothing to do with yaoi or pornography.
No. 2481886
>>2481855>>2481856You nonnas are doing the lord's work and these answers are the real answers that explain the Ugly Man Psyop but you're right, a lot of liberal women aren't going to accept it even if they casually larp as 'blackpilled radfems' on the internet. It's a hard pill to swallow when you were raised with liberal feminism 'rah rah we can fix the world if we ask men nicely to behave and see us as equals!' rhetoric.
>>2481861IDK about ascetic men per se but the best way to selectively breed males who have fewer of the crabs in a bucket moid traits is to enable total female sexual selection (as it should be). The societies we have in our world currently that have the worst men and the most fucked-over women are the ones with a cultural history of completely preventing female sexual selection (e.g., the middle east, most of India) whereas the more female sexual selection is enabled the more likely you are to get high-minded ascetic scientist type moids and also more naturally respectful and attractive 'sigma' moids who are still interested in reproducing with women (essentially, chads). This is likely highly cultural but I suspect there is also an evolutionary/genetic component since women in high-freedom countries have some ability to say no to reproducing with the worst moids in their societies (rape notwithstanding).
>>2481867You really didn't read her first post did you? She didn't say moids believe they're dominant if hetero and submissive if gay. She said moids think it's 'gay' (the original question the other nonna asked that started this whole conversation) to do what women want because they think being submissive to women is gay.
Also no one's mad at you for calling troons postmodernist, the issue is that you called behavioral ecology postmodernist troon logic too.
No. 2481907
>>2481858Virtually all women find it extremely difficult to accept that there are no "good" men, there are only men who either can't be "bad" or don't need to be "bad".
>>2481867The formation of babby requires the male to force the female host to divert resources from self-maintenance towards growth of something genetically foreign, at an obviously great expense to herself. When intelligence is present, you simply
cannot approach this with a non-adversarial mentality, much like you can't feel bad about the animals you eat. To do so would mean not passing your genes and starving, respectively. Most people alive today are unable to ponder what their steak must've felt on its way to the slaughterhouse, most men alive today have brains that were honed over millions of years to find a morbillion different reasons for why it's fine to harm women, and most women have the same thing, but for rationalizing reproduction as a reciprocal win/win nonzerosum scenario.
No. 2481915
>>2481886>She didn't say moids believe they're dominant if hetero and submissive if gay.I'm summarizing what anon did say by using those terms (and she did say that kek)
>>2481631>She said moids think it's 'gay'>to do what women want because they think being submissive to women is gay. Anon explained generic misunderstandings about human evolutionary psychology in great detail, starting with
>Who you are in the ecosystem dictates how you behave. and careful reader-anon missed this I guess
>that you called behavioral ecology postmodernist troon logic too.What I actually posted was that anon had reached horseshoe theory with a post-modernist troon by way of typical moidbased bio-evo theory and bio-evo blackpill (I guess)
No. 2481921
>>2481915Nope, you re-linked the post but you're still misstating what she said. Your claim:
>nonna said moids think being hetero makes them dominant, and being gay makes them submissive.Nonna's actual claim:
>moids think being dominant makes them 'hetero', and being submissive makes them 'gay.'This was, by the way, a direct response to the question above it. I already asked you once to answer that question if you have a better answer, but you haven't, just calling her answer stupid repeatedly without an alternative explanation.
>What I actually posted was that anon had reached horseshoe theory with a post-modernist troonYes, I know that's what you said already. You calling it the horseshoe theory means that you think her views are essentially very close to the troon pomo view. However you can't explain why this is, again, because you seem not to know what postmodernists or troons actually believe. Can you explain the similarities between that nonna's argument and the so-called 'pomo troon' beliefs? You already misrepresented what she said once, maybe you could try again. There's nothing even vaguely resembling postmodernism about the belief/observation that male human beings try to dominate female human beings, and it certainly has nothing whatsoever with what troons believe, so I'm curious what on earth you are trying to say here.
No. 2481931

>>2481921>nonna said moids think being hetero makes them dominant, and being gay makes them submissive.>Nonna's actual claim:>moids think being dominant makes them 'hetero', and being submissive makes them 'gay.'In the context of a moid's perspective, vidrel (plus my original claim of this thread having turbo-autism)
>Can you explain the similarities between that nonna's argument and the so-called 'pomo troon' beliefs?>>2481669>Troons are always trying to recontextualize attraction and reproductive sex itself so they can be included. That is why they're so interested in reducing the woman to "the female/submissive" role.and the similarity between nona's blackpill is that all moids are hardwired to seek out a role of dominance (or submission). I just said it was more complicated than that and that is why modern bio-evo goes hand-in-hand with cultural and social anthropology
>However you can't explain why this isCan't or find this argument pretty circular? A post-modernist belief goes against the conventional understanding of things and bio-evolutionary theory (by itself) is dated, so it is no longer the "conventional" (or modern) way of understanding human behavior (cultural/social anthropology is). Additionally modern humans are mixed up of all kinds of races and cultures that evolved separately and differently (like the "walking marriage"/matriarchal denisovans vs the sadistic and dominating neanderthals, probably)
>There's nothing even vaguely resembling postmodernism about the belief/observation that male human beings try to dominate female human beingsThere is when you use bio-evo as the crux of your argument since that observation is social and cultural
No. 2481962
>>2481931You can accuse others of autism all you want but not understanding basic nuances of language and human thought isn't really something I'd take pride in personally.
>Troons are always trying to recontextualize attraction and reproductive sex itself so they can be included. No they're not, they're already included. People don't troon out due to being infertile. Male troons are interested in reducing the woman to the submissive role because they're MALE, and like nonna explained, MALES are interested in reducing women to the submissive role. Nonna's not saying SHE HERSELF believes women are submissive, she's saying MALES do, and what you said about troons confirms she's right.
Also kek at
>reducing the woman to the female rolethat's what a woman is, yes. I don't know why you added that in there.
>bio-evolutionary theory (by itself) is datedLol first I heard no one believes in biology or evolution anymore. Guess you are the actual postmodernist in the thread.
>it is no longer the "conventional" (or modern) way of understanding human behavior (cultural/social anthropology is)You're saying the 'modern' and 'conventional' way of understanding things is the postmodern way, got it.
>Additionally modern humans are mixed up of all kinds of races and cultures that evolved separately and differentlyNot really, and we're talking about reproduction here.
>There is when you use bio-evo as the crux of your argument since that observation is social and culturalUh, no. Biology is based on the idea that there is an objective truth about the world and that it is observable, while postmodernism is the rejection of that idea. Glad I could help.
Anyway I take it from your response that no, you don't have an alternative answer for why men thinking wearing attractive clothes is 'gay.' Can't believe your entire derail from the ugly man psyop discussion just came down to 'we should all be postmodernist' and you don't even have an answer for 'why do men want to dress ugly' at the end of it all. I guess it's typical for postmodernists to try to 'break down' everyone else's theories and observations without offering any of their own.
No. 2481967
>>2481965The undercurrent of
>acknowledging that males see women as a resource means you think women should be cattleis leaning gendie/libfem bigly, yeah
No. 2481968
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>>2481948Certain "bio-truths" are still the foundation of cultural/social anthropologic arguments. The cultural/anthropologic aspect is the "complicated" part that isn't explained by bio-evo theory alone. You can just search "bio-truths reddit" and see how common it is to see moids use it to justify their current head canon to cope with perpetual self-imposed loneliness
>>2481962>You can accuse others of autism all you want but not understanding basic nuances of language and human thought isn't really something I'd take pride in personally. I just find it redditarding, on an imageboard anon. I made a simple (and what I still feel) accurate ~observation~ that apparently some bp feminists have overlapping beliefs with bio-troof moids. Beyond that, these topics aren't very interesting to me bc they are so self-evident and easy to google. I'm not doing the line-by-line thing again bc it is mindnumbing and I originally wanted to make sense of your position. You win the conversation by forfeit nona, please accept today's illustrious music feat. these sexy and evolved moids as my donation to the thread to show there are no hard feelings
No. 2481970
>>2481967Also the inability to understand that
>rabbits think liking pink makes you a catdoes not mean the same thing as
>rabbits think being a cat makes you like pinkis typical of the type of person who is too good for any topics that include the concept of causation (which basically leaves underwater basket weaving). Hard to explain ideas like 'because' to a gendie.
No. 2481974
>>2481968>redditardingyour arguments so far are 15/15 redditor arguments anon, to the point I was tempted to tell you to go back. You'll find all the navel gazing 'social and cultural analysis' your heart could desire there.
>I made a simple (and what I still feel) accurate ~observation~ that apparently some bp feminists have overlapping beliefs with bio-troof moids.But whenever anyone asked you to explain this bizarre "observation," or author any alternative theories at all, you fell back on barely-decipherable schizoramblings about how modern people don't believe in science or reality anymore, and troons can't reproduce which is why they troon out (?) and how it's bad to reduce women to females (?). If your "observation was" simple, you should be able to explain what it's based on.
>these topics aren't very interesting to me bc they are so self-evidentNo need to pick fights in a thread that's not very interesting to you, this is something you brought upon yourself.
No. 2481978
>>2481972I tried valiantly to try to rein in the 'babby's first reading of 2 pages of foucault' ramblings and and ask her why she thinks moids think dressing attractively to women is gay but I guess all the social and cultural analysis she's read on reddit hasn't gotten around to answering that one yet. Maybe it has something to do with Denisovan walking marriages or leather daddy culture.
>>2481976This is literally the reason we got third wave feminism. 'Oh no, men do bad stuff if we acknowledge reality, so they'll stop if we pretend we don't have eyes!'
No. 2482167
>>2482144yes they do, incel ass men love to complain about how women are sluts who are wired for hypergamy or w/e
>>2482153you are absolutely ass backwards if you think men seeth at musclepigs, they are the main peddlers of musclepigs as peak male attractiveness. they seeth a slimfit prettyboys because that will never be achieved by them, but any ugly man can roid himself
No. 2482327
>>2481688Shit like this is always so disingenuous kek, he really thought he made a point here. Moids really love pretending like having some buff walled masculine moids that mostly other moids find attractive instead of women is somehow the equivalent to having revealing skins for skinny female characters, which most men find attractive. I guarantee if you actually had equal fanservice with those characters you would see sperging from both sides, but
especially the men whining if there were actually attractive pretty boy characters with revealing clothes kekk. The women wouldn't be complaining about the pretty boys showing skin in the exact same way that the moids don't about their whore female characters and I wouldn't see any issue with that. But instead what's happening is that no women are complaining about these characters because they're ugly and walled anyway so they're not really fanservice for anyone except a few pick mes with shit taste, gay men and psyopped women.
No. 2482556
>>2482545Males are capable of a paraphilia called gerontophilia, which
triggers arousal at visible signs of aging. For women, it's likely the opposite - their sexual response being blunted enough to be "retrained" or "overridden" by higher order brain functions. Females in general are less "animalistic" in terms of how their reward system is wired - there's a reason why males are more prone to any kind of addiction (fun sexual dimorphism fax).
No. 2482620
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>>2482327>having some buff walled masculine moids that mostly other moids find attractive instead of women is somehow the equivalent to having revealing skins for skinny female charactersI believe that the reason that this argument is so common is because male characters that pander to women are very rare in media, especially in media for general audiences. You can find plenty of sexy women in almost any genre, even in media created for women. The reverse is rarer, so in shows like JJK where the men are eye candy (yet arent even sexualized half as much as female characters in typical shonenslop) moids lose thier minds
No. 2482623
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This artist is so insufferable and everything i hate about twitter "artists"
No. 2483020
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jesus christ
No. 2483231
>>2483074>It's not like moids want to date taller women anywayImo as a taller woman this isn't even true. The
abusive moids who can fake confidence and affection will make a tall woman give them a chance and then get psychotic probably because they resent them for being tall and too cute for them but not also crazy people who try to undermine their partner for their height which they can't control. And no there hasn't been any genital incompatibility because that's not how that works to all you pornbrained nonitas.
No. 2483306
>>2483231>The abusive moids who can fake confidence and affection will make a tall woman give them a chance and then get psychotic probably because they resent them for being tallThis is literally the exact thing I've experienced. Insane
t. tall anon
No. 2483443
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Somebody called this bowling ball a "hot dilf" kek
No. 2483512
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No. 2483769
>>2483512Eww I didn't realize anyone was ever attracted to this moid. He has the double whammy issue of having an ugly face AND a repulsive personality.
>>2483662But the main important thing in male beauty is the face and his face is hideous. Theoretically men can change how fit they are (even if they don't) but they can't change being ugly.
No. 2483826
>>2483795I agree. Face (and not being bald/bearded) are basically more important than everything else. Also you can usually get a slightly unfit moid to go to the gym with you or do sports with you and shape up.
>>2483816Imo fat men's faces usually just look bad (female faces have more fat naturally so women can still look facially attractive when fat but men rarely do) but they don't need to have a six pack and 7% body fat to look attractive, they just need to not be fat.
No. 2484398
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What I want to know is why are moids so convinced there is an ugly woman psyop? It’s especially evident in the whole game/anime/fandom sphere, where they’ve been having a decade+ meltdown over “hot women no longer being permitted in media”. Testerically sharing screenshots of videogames and cartoons, indignant over how xyz female characters are not walking oiled-covered t&a with hair and eyes.
They seem absolutely convinced that there is a dearth of content for sexualized women, even as gooner games continue to be pumped out to this day. They will have several different apps on their phone of borderline porn collectible PNGs, while acting like they are being starved out.
You see them, and esp RW scrotes, come up with the reasons behind this perceived threat. Every woman is out to convince him to relenquish his natural attraction towards idealized, breedable young women. As if there is a council of pig-disgusting feminists plotting to trick him into pointing his dick in their unworthy direction instead of where it ought to be.
This, coupled with the hair-pulling episodes they have over seeing men get the same treatment, as rare as it is. The LADS meltdown was an example, men comparing stylized anime boy games (with no porn, mind you) to their own deluge of goonslop, something something about dark female psychology and how women are twisted pathological rapists because you can slap your bishonens around a little. Meanwhile, mind you, there are scrot games being released to the public in real-time on steam where the objective is to correctively rape all women, including your own mother, for being born as inferior sex objects.
Is it projection? I think it is. Men are low empathy and always plotting towards whatever suits their interests. They are the ones trying to bully/trick women into finding their ugly asses hot, and wanting to deprive them of hot men even depicted in fiction.
It makes so much more sense from the biological perspective of a male. In which, every single man wants every single woman for himself. It suits him and his interests to convince the collective of women to idolize his dick, and if not, whatever dick closest resembles his dick. What is the point of women doing the same? Is the female imperative not to rebuff and reject most men? Why would the average woman feel pressed to convince every unworthy scrote to land his penis inside of her? It’s more of a liability than anything else. Men’s sperm is worthless, if not an active hazard. And yet they are absolutely convinced every woman in the world is fighting for it, despite this never actually playing out in reality. These scrots, convinced their dick is a hot commodity to the point women have to scheme up ways to trick him to give it to them (as if he would refuse anyways), while simultaneously complaining about how women flee from his presence. Fleeing from him to the point of a social/societal crisis. Make it make sense.
The only reason they call themselves logical is because they have this warped view of how things are that appear to make sense on paper, but in reality, never manifests. But this lack of manifesting is ironically blamed on women being “illogical”, maliciously or stupidly not following the reality program he decided the universe should abide by.
I want a game where I see hot men’s asses jigging. No, I want so many of these I could t play through them all in a lifetime. I want to live in a world where I see men sexually objectified at the same rate women are now. They scream and piss themselves in anguish assuming they suffer like women (no content pandering to me, part of a conspiracy by jealous uglies). I want men to see jiggling cocks on billboards, I want them to see men writhing around in their underwear in commercials, on street corners, everywhere. I want them to fall in love with a fictional waifu and only have 3 pages on gelbooru to scroll through of sub-par art of her, only 15% sexualized (and never according to their tastes). I want them to know what equal treatment is actually like. They want to compare their paper cuts to women’s stab wounds. I want them to feel what real suffering is actually like. To have your wishes ignored, controlled, to be exposed to everything you dislike and don’t want to be, to have your desires maligned and corrected, and to be ridiculed and shamed endlessly for the rare instances where you do get some food. I want men to feel like they are actively being psy-oped, targeted, and oppressed,, and how little there is they can do about it.
And I know it’s not going to teach them a lesson, they are incapable of self reflection or humility. I don’t even care, I just want them to know my suffering.
pic related, these high-budget coom games come out bi-monthly and the scrots will still cry about sjws taking away their boobies (his right), and how women are all conspiring ugly mutants who want to use and abuse men.
No. 2484460
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>>2484398Kek amazing and true post nonna, but you already answered your own question I think:
>Is it projection? I think it is.Yeah, pretty much, from the sex that basically exists solely to engage in reproductive parasitism, brood parasitism, the hijacking of the female body for their own reproductive drive and vampirically sucking the life out of women (both physically and socially) and even their own children, the idea that women are 'taking' something from them just by existing and protecting our boundaries is pure projection. Moids are both culturally/socially and evolutionarily primed to take as much as they can from women and when there's nothing left to take or their own kind fail to churn out facsimiles of exploitable women fast enough, they blame us. Most of these bitter angry moids should have just been bred out of the gene pool but they spent millennia developing sophisticated technologies and social systems and conspiracies to hoard women as reproductive resources so they could keep passing down their own shitty genes and now they're mad we can recognize that's what they've done.
The mere existence of fat women, ugly women, or god forbid older women/mothers (the very people that bring their broods into existence so they can parasitize them!) is what convinces them there's an ugly woman psyop because they feel so entitled to perfect nubile females for their harems they feel anger at other women existing. They'll still bleed resources from those older or uglier or fatter women though, but the second those women express a right to peacefully exist without devoting their entire lives to making moids more comfortable in their parasitic existence they get very very angry. They lash out at the ugly women because they still want to fuck them, even though they feel like they are too good for that and shouldn't want to. They're jealous of women for having the self-control and dignity to genuinely not want to fuck ugly men because it makes them feel inadequate they're incapable of doing the same. They know deep down they have lower biological and social worth than women and it makes them really really angry whenever they notice signs of it, like the fact they themselves want to fuck 'ugly' women but the ugly women wouldn't even want to fuck them back. In every moid's fantasy, he should have been born in the time of Caesar, and he would have literally BEEN Caesar, not some eunuch-peasant cleaning poop out of a gutter somewhere while higher-status men took 50 concubines and ate peeled grapes. In his imagination no moid is the grape peeler, he is the peeled-grape-eater, and women took that away from him by being free to walk around, buy things, have a job or get an education.
One of the most baffling examples of the 'ugly woman psyop' narrative I've seen recently is the new Snow White movie - okay it's an absolute fucking travesty and I won't deny that part, but the funny thing is most of the moids criticizing it are whining about Rachel Zegler being too dog-ugly to play the role, even though she's the exact embodiment of everything male coomer media has said they like - skinny, tiny, neotenous, etc. Most of the moids whining about this might have noticed there is no 'prince' in the movie and complained about the lack of love story, but they seem to have completely failed to notice there isn't a single borderline-attractive moid in the entire film while the two main characters are extremely attractive women. I've heard moids complaining that 'they took the love story away from little girls by making the prince not a prince and not important' but I haven't heard any complaining that there isn't an eye candy prettyboy for the girls watching the film to look at either, they're so busy posting unflattering caps of one of the world's most conventionally attractive actresses.
No. 2484539
>>2484517I agree she looks borderline anachan nonna (although some women just are that skinny naturally) but that's why I said:
>she's the exact embodiment of everything male coomer media has said they like - skinny, tiny, neotenous, etc.Not saying she is the ideal woman with the healthiest body, just that moids constantly fetishize short, skinny, frail, neotenous-featured girls like this but will start screeching and rending garments calling her ugly anyway because she has dumb zoomie sjw politics on the red carpet. They will find any reason to complain.
No. 2484670
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I know Schweighofer walled but I think that's the only stance where I can think that they put a slight better looking moid to represent an uglier historical figure
No. 2484689
>>2484398you have a way with words
nonny, thank you
No. 2485102
>>2484647Max 15% bodyfat isn't what I was talking about, and the example given there was Logan Paul who looks like he uses steroids. I'm talking about just regular guys who are slim but fit from walking around and doing some casual sports occasionally, not gymrat bodybuilders like the example. You said you don't care about abs but everyone under 15% bodyfat will have a visible 6-pack. I think 15-20 percent bodyfat is fine as long as the guy has a nice face. Also I don't hate the gym, I go to the gym. I hate gym rat men though and am old enough to have seen dozens of them get fat once they stop taking their "supplements" and chugging protein shakes and refusing to eat food, usually after they get a girlfriend. I'd rather date a guy with good genetics who isn't desperately fighting his biology and is actually active beyond hypertrophy training, sorry. Only retards do "cardio" but I've never met an intelligent or naturally attractive man who spends every day at the gym either unless he's an actual pro athlete. The only moids who do that are overcompensating uggos.
If you date an actually hot moid (with hair and a nice face and who clearly stays slim without spending every minute of his day working out) you can just take him to the gym with you or make him do whatever sports and activities you do with you, and he'll get fitter than you in literally no time since building muscle and losing fat is ultra-easy for moids.
No. 2485198
>>2482146Neanderthals actually got UMP’d. Homo erects moids were uglier, dumber, and more aggressive. They pillaged and raped Neanderthal females to the point where not a single expression of Neanderthal DNA is found on the Y chromosome. No Neanderthal males passed down their genes, and if they did, jealous erected moids would slaughter their children.
I like to imagine they were the bishonens of their time. It’s sad, actually. We need to take revenge by starving out these chYmp moids.
No. 2485207
>>2485200They were both ugly as sin from the perspective of homo sapien women, kek. I can only semi-speak for my distant ancestors, though I know my opinion is my own. I can at least speak better on them than I could for what female birds might find most attractive.
If I had to choose, Neanderthal moids are more attractive than Homo Erectus moids.
No. 2485296
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Kek I was looking for shows to watch and there's some kdrama that just started for teenagers where the entire premise is this pretty girl who likes hot guys chooses to date some ugly moid to 'give him a chance' because he lovebombs her and chases her for months, her friends all judge her for dating an ugly scrote and in the end he's a creep who's just trying to manipulate her into sex and is making bets with his friends anyway and has a nasty personality. So the premise of the show is that she decides to only meet extremely hot moids from now on. I don't think the 'hot moids' in the cast are that good looking (their beauty standards are weird) but I'm amazed that even the ugly boyfriend isn't really worse looking than a lot of the moids shilled as hot to teens/youths in Western shows (picrel) - he's goofy looking but he's not visibly walled, is clean shaven, doesn't look like he was dropped on his face several times as a child like Jacob Elordi or whatever. American TV should also have shows with based plots like this for teenage girls, imagine if we actually grew up with the messaging that ugly lovebombing moids are not to be trusted and have nasty personalities?
No. 2485338
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Why are female to male genderbends often so terrible?
No. 2485340
>>2483394This is part of the UMP though, they'll get upset women don't want short males but simultaneously prop up short women (unless they fit what I said or they're more of a submissive type). Hence why it even came up in this thread. And no it's not outdated at all, I still see men doing this right now so idk what alternate reality you live in.
>>2484398Great post. Men are so incredibly spoiled
No. 2485343
>>2485340Yeah this is what makes me have no sympathy whatsoever for short moids, it's fun to watch them freaking out over the fact they can't change their height but it's also aggravating that they will act like such
victims over the fact that 99% of all women don't want to date them when they themselves would not date 99% of women either or even close. Manlet entitlement to tall women liking them doesn't even have to do with wanting to date those women, it has to do with wanting all women to be available to them and soothe their egos at all times.
No. 2485464
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This thread reminded me of a gay guy whose Tumblr I used to follow, because he frequently posted funny shit. However, I couldn't make any sense of his taste in men.
He would sometimes call out UMP and used picrel as an example of how "mediocre white men" (he was a performative anti-racist) get shilled by media as attractive. However he himself would thirst after the ugliest white and non-white men possible. He was a bearfag and the type that didn't appear to see any difference between being muscular and being a fatass, thought being hairy and smelly is hot, and would tag the sort of guys that looked like they posted in 4chan from their mom's basements as #gorgeous. At least the men that People magazine shills are fit and look like they shower. But really there didn't seem to be any type of a man he didn't find attractive, it was only when it came to 5/10 white guys (although I concede that the scrote in picture is below average) when he seemed to suddenly develop a taste. It was hardly the only thing he was inconsistent about, like he would call out rainbow capitalism in one post, then applaud when a fat black tranny got featured as a Calvin Klein model.
Sorry for the tangent, it just made me think about how gay men shouldn't be listened to when it comes to male attractiveness. They often have the worst taste imaginable, kek.
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No. 2485592
>>2484398Yes
nonnie yes. I think this all the time and it makes me want to scream.
Worse part though is that modern lefties and woke women will call this shit empowering and act like women are empowered for being half naked with unfathomable unrealistic bodies. I'm just so tired of it. I try to ignore it but I'm constantly reminded by just existing in this world.
No. 2485698
>>2485343This, like I don't give a fuck if they cry over not being chosen by women for being short and claim it's this super high standard for women to have if they want a tall guy when they do the same to women anyways even if some still date tall women, and they push way higher beauty standards on women in general.
They basically only have height as one of the few standards they have to meet and that haven't been as psyopped as other things, but still want to cry over it anyways and pretend they're oppressed. I guess because to them even having one standard to meet is already too much.
No. 2485768
>>2485563Holy shit they have to be lying on purpose to sabotage him, they can't actually believe this.
>>2485651NTA but not irl. Maybe you saw it on a tiktok somewhere but if you're an actually tall woman (male average height or taller) the number of men who actually want to date you is drastically lower. They might 'say' they thirst after tall women but they don't actually date them most of the time. I have a family member who is 6'2, very skinny, super fun and interesting, but basically spent her entire life being treated as 'one of the bros' by men and ended up never having a serious relationship in her whole life. I'm shorter than her but a lot of moids told me to my face they couldn't date me, even that my (slightly shorter) bf was 'brave' for dating me. This wasn't in the 19th century it was not long ago.
No. 2485775
File: 1744565594145.png (1.74 MB, 2328x1773, delusional moid 1.png)

(1/3) - this moid says women are delusiional because they want attractive men who can meet their standards. He admits that the world have evolved, as has women, but men havent and somehow that is the world and womens fault.
No. 2485778
File: 1744565727290.png (25.05 KB, 312x547, 1726144239064.png)

>>2485775literally picrel
No. 2485784
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>>2485775(2/3) yes I know I made a spelling mistake. Anyway here is some of the other videos hes made and a better look at his face. He has a video about "chronic complainers"-pot meet kettle.
>>2485778>>2485780>>2485782Top kek
No. 2485794
File: 1744566283048.webp (188.74 KB, 3840x2160, Hillsong-Carl-Lentz_fag_on_top…)

>>2485784I already know what this loser's voice sounds like just by looking at these pics. It's crazy how you can't tell if they're regurgitating content from all identical channels or coming up with the exact same topics/ideas on their own. This is just personality disorder moid who learns how to manipulate other personality disorder moids and his success will depend on how much he infuses his ideas with christian values and traditional ideas kek
No. 2485800
>>2485793Sorry I meant to link this person
>>2485788 they describe their look so well kek and yeah hope no one follows his advice apparently his comment section is full of ugly seething scrotes though.
>>2485790A pity because its so apt here kek
>>2485792They are coming out of the woodwork like an infestation
>>2485795IKR? This is the result of society refusing to ackowledge mens appearence so men think people just listen and not look at them.
>>2485797This. But one look at him shows its just fancy toilet paper.
>>2485799Top kek
No. 2486076
File: 1744582447527.jpeg (344.61 KB, 1170x1999, IMG_2043.jpeg)

Owen Gray was super talked about a year or two ago on TikTok, women were hyping him up so much, so I wanted to look. The disappointment when I saw that he looked like slender man kek.
No. 2486092
>>2485775Moids are so assblasted that a lot of modern women are finally waking up to not wanting to marry and or be babytrapped by men. There is literally nothing in it for them. A lot of women are having kids on their own, while maintaining a career and female friends/companionship. Men get fucked.
>>2485778kek 100 percent
No. 2486131
File: 1744585275194.jpg (17.35 KB, 930x558, 1707 (1).jpg)

>>2486076Bryan Johnson (onlyfans reskin)
No. 2486181
>>2486053Digging up 4-day old posts with a brief mention of dogs in them just to derail has got to be some form of mental illness.
>>2486112nta but he looks about 20-25 years too old to be "for the female gaze" and also porn actors are disgusting rapists. Also why are you watching porn and giving money to porn companies? Stop that.
>>2486089Moids will coom over both but the type of moid that whines about women being too picky always seem to have very specific taste in women regardless and very specific opinions about every single aspect of female presentation. Have you seen the way these moids absolutely rage out about women not shaving their pits or pubes or legs? Ever seen these moids sperging out about above-the-chin haircuts?
>>2486131Kek they do look the same, that's who I first thought it was too.
No. 2486214
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>>2485784>a deep thank you to my wifeThis fucker has a wife and that's still not enough it seems.
No. 2486300
>>2486290Yes you are, sorry. Tbf none of the younger male actors in euphoria were attractive either though.
>>2486273>posts picture of an unfit couple both getting fit together>reee I bet she left him once she got fitter!!Well that's sure a convenient excuse for moids not to go on fitness/diet journeys with their girlfriends lmao. Ironically she was very pretty in both pictures (even if kinda dumpy/chubby in the first one) while he looks mid in both, but you'd think other blackpill/looksmaxx moids would be happy for him that he made himself more attractive too. No, they always have to freak out at women being attractive instead and not even congratulate their fellow moids for doing something positive about their appearance.
No. 2486303
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No. 2486308
>>2486304The deleted post I responded to was on-topic and fine though, not sure why it was deleted.
>>2486303Good for her kek even though the moid on the right kind of looks mentally challenged.
No. 2486333
File: 1744599337216.jpg (1.6 MB, 1763x2000, Top-Gun-Mavericks-Glen-Powell-…)

>>2486303glen powell is so obviously a rebound for that woman. i'll be surprised if they last longer than 6 months. also her ex is like 42 lol. gross as fuck, he's 15 years older than her. the last time his hairline didn't receed was over two decades ago. not that i like sydney sweeney, i find her pretty trashy and unsympathetic. i honestly think glen powell is way out of sydney's league, he should've stayed with gigi paris.
No. 2486335
File: 1744599560916.jpg (96.35 KB, 568x378, glen_powell.jpg)

>>2486333Capy-bara man kek I bet he's fun and can chill with all different crowds
No. 2486554
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They aren’t even being subtle anymore. half century old scrotes shilled as “hunks”, shaming women who wanting a man with a full head of hair
No. 2486558
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>>2486554I thought that was posted on April Fools for a sec. This is so bad
No. 2486828
>>2486575I don't think that creature from the black lagoon has "so many" fans nonna, I think they're just shilling him hard like they shill all these hideous walled scrotes to try to brainwash women and make us not notice there aren't any young hot men on TV.
>>2486720When they say "hypergamy" they literally just mean "women can leave men!!! for hotter men! that's terrible because women are supposed to be loyal until the end of their days to the first man they lay eyes on!"
No. 2486880
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>>2486554He just shared his thoughts on SNL bullying a young actress about her teeth: Smashin'! He thinks it's the most hilarious thing ever.
No. 2486900
File: 1744651049632.png (Spoiler Image,390.98 KB, 620x620, filthy_mike_white_eyes.png)

>>2486828>there aren't any young hot men on TV.But anon, didn't you see on the white lotus? The young male looked at him with jealousy and started to cry bc he was so jealous
he died smiling in a blaze of glory with his girl by his side and on his own terms! He reached self-actualization by confronting his scrote father, the reason he was such an emo fag his whole life! A master of his own masculinity and a winning end to his own star wars story! Didn't you watch nona? It's hard for some people to understand tho, not everyone "gets" art
No. 2487306
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>>2486944Her teeth look like picrel. I haven't seen that on anything other than hammy stage actors or on halloween so I honestly think it's a weird gimmick
No. 2487413
>>2487370Crushology 101 I think? The first ep was really cheesy/cliche but it was so refreshing as a premise I instantly was like wow, someone finally did it!
>>2487388He looks a lot goofier in the show because of the way he acts/pulls faces but I've seen shows casting much more hideous moids as "hot guys" so I was actually surprised this was the actor they picked for all the protagonist's friends to go "eww seriously?" over kek. Like Walter Goggins.
>>2487306Nonna she's just British. Her teeth aren't as bad as Walter Goggins' scary veneers and she's very beautiful so having bunny teeth/an overbite really isn't that weird or alarming. It's not a gimmick to have a bad bite, many people are born with a bad bite but most get braces.
No. 2487728
>>2487715>hearing stories about shaved men being rejected by women for looking "too young"In what hellhole is this occurring and how old are these men/women? At least where I live clean shaven men (or at least men with at worst like a 5 day shadow type of stubble) are clearly preferred by the vast majority of women, especially attractive/young women. The fact that attractive women generally prefer clean-shaven, long-haired moids is so obvious that I've seen entire male friend groups start growing their hair out and shaving like a pack of dominos when a single moid in their friend group does it because they notice how much more female attention the 'feminine' moid gets. I know there are certain specific subcultures of roiding gym men and tiny 'omgimsuchasmallgirl' gym girls where the older moid with huge muscles and beard + self-infantilizing bleached blond fillers+nosejob anachan type of couple is fairly commonplace, but that's really a tiny subset of people.
> A lot of young men when they want to get the attention of a mature, older womanHow frequently does this actually happen in your experience? I know some young men do like older women but overwhelmingly in my experience most men prefer younger women after they're out of their teens.
No. 2488243
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Every time I find out a beautiful actress has a hideous husband/boyfriend like picrel, it convinces me more and more that hollywood is just a prostitution ring that's trying to normalize exploitation of women/children by gross rich creeps to the public. This man is apparently a secretive businessman who went to Eton with some of the British royals, because of course. Pike gushes about his intellect and amazing personality though!
>In an interview with The Guardian in 2019, Pike described her partner as a “feminist”, just like herself. “It’s a thing I prize highly and appreciate daily. Someone who’s self-confident enough and secure enough to deal with this crazy … It is crazy, how our life is. Just the constant shifting. The fact we keep any form of routine is quite remarkable, really,” she shared. She said that he has “always had a library of feminist literature and books on pioneering women”.
I know celebrities stepping out on the red carpet with their non-celeb moids isn't exactly as overt a part of the UMP as actual hideous walled actors on TV, but I think it contributes. I grew up seeing these actresses photographed at parties and on the red carpet with anonymous geriatric skeletors and thought it was normal for all beautiful women to just become trophy wives and babymakers for some geriatric old man.
No. 2488292
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>>2488243>Since December 2009, Pike has been in a relationship with Robie Uniacke, a businessman, and they have two sons, both fluent in Mandarin.>Rosamund gave birth to their son Solo in May 2012. They welcomed their second son Atom in December 2014, and the family of four is living together in England.>The company went bankrupt in 2016 and was closed in the same year – after several investigations were conducted, it was revealed that Robie failed to pay taxes of around $250,000 to Her Majesty’s Revenue and Customs (HMRC), while he also occasionally took large amounts of money from his company’s account using the business money for his own personal needs.>Robie has been fighting with his drug addiction for years. Both he and his first wife Emma Howards were addicted to heroin, and this was allegedly the reason behind their divorce. No. 2488332
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Kek
No. 2488350
>>2488339I never thought she was schizo, you only have to look at incels or any variety of 'masculinity' 'alpha' whatever male content to see that they are like this.
>>2488342Male projection as usual, they're seethingly jealous that women are able to have close and emotionally supportive relationships so they self soothe by imagining that we're all jealous bitches secretly sabotaging each other to fight over chad. Meanwhile they're the ones with widespread cuckoldry fetishes and obsessed with stealing women/sharing women with other moids.
No. 2488427
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Not even 10 minutes into Gothika, I have to see the gorgeous Halle Berry making out with some bald, fat, ugly old scrote. It's like beastiality
No. 2488480
File: 1744753839697.jpeg (1.15 MB, 1170x1480, IMG_1695.jpeg)

They’re gonna have to do this to us soon because of how ugly our men are getting
No. 2488781
File: 1744772145591.jpg (Spoiler Image,37.06 KB, 640x480, 1000006478.jpg)

Am i the only one that hates these retarded reaction images of some ugly fat balding moid? Am i the only one that doesn't find them funny? It's not funny or relatable, it's just disgusting, repulsive and disturbing. I can't go 5 minutes on lolcow without being jumpscared by some obese moid acting like a sped "meme". I don't want to see moids like this in any circumstance. The fact that this scrote was allowed in front of a camera and his image was allowed to be broadcasted is just dystopian. How often do you see pictures and images like this of women? How often do you see people willling to take pictures and put women that look like on media? Even while looking at youtube, almost all the women have their makeup cleanly done, shiny glossy clean hair and pick a flattering camera angle, while the moids just zoom in their deformed skulls, nasty spotty greasy skin with dead skin on top, receeding hairline massive wrinkly 5head with enough lines for it to be a notebook and their disgusting scraggly beards they don't even bother to brush or style. This shit makes me seethe to no end, can you imagine if a woman came out looking this ugly?
No. 2488791
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>>2488781I see lots of women with similar facial characteristics around, he has a very average chubby person face anon. It also reminds people of seinfeld which was a classic show that is still pretty funny so anons associate it with that. He gets shamed by the other characters a lot throughout the series for the way he looks, so nonas probably feel that has been addressed (plus he was never shilled as attractive). I've never posted it but would find it annoying if I saw it memed like the paris hilton one so I'm probably missing the threads he shows up in kek
No. 2488828
File: 1744775426460.gif (2 MB, 400x294, IMG_7347.gif)

>>2488781Listen, I hate men as much as anybody else here but you will not talk shit on George Costanza.
(defending ugly scrotes) No. 2488986
File: 1744794011838.jpeg (81.22 KB, 736x920, IMG_1701.jpeg)

>>2488858Jack black at least USED to be hot.
No. 2488988
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>>2488986Is that picture supposed to prove your point because I don't see a hot man anywhere in your post
Semi-OT but I just saw this and thought it sort of belonged here. Tech moids are so pathetically obsessed with passing along their subpar genetics they're spending probably unfathomable sums of money trying to help failed sperm get to eggs using robots.
No. 2489088
File: 1744805913256.jpg (25.57 KB, 1024x658, 1000021326.jpg)

>>2488988Considering that only 10% of sperm is the normal kind (a number that might be even lower for a physically unfit moid), i can only see the problems thus could cause. Preeclampsia, low birth weight, schizophrenia, and autism are all linked to male sperm quality
No. 2489110
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>>2489091>Why are scrotes so cucked and deformed in all these different fucking waysIn theory, the strongest, healthiest sperm cells are the ones that are supposed to survive. Plus men are constantly creating new sperm, so I guess they have that going for them
>Is it like this for women's egg cellsEgg cells aren't like that, generally 70% of your eggs are 'chromosomally normal' until you're in your mid 30s. By the time you are 40, that amount is 50%. Usually our bodies prevent the abnormal eggs from being released during ovulation, though this process happens less as you get older.
No. 2489161
>>2489110This is also due to extreme cases - for example, if the risk of .2 and goes to .4% it technically doubles or goes up by 200%, but the risk is still very very small. Nearly all women who didn't have fertility problems before 35 will successfully reproduce, and if they have no other genetic risks, majority of them going onto having healthy babies
That being said - I never understood the infertility fear monger for women going into their 50s? You're not gonna hurt their feelings by telling them they're infertile you're going to relieve them cause ain't no woman in her 50s is gonna want to take care of a newborn. How "infertile" became an insult is beyond me. Not all women want to be fertile or the tube tying/birth control industry would be dead
No. 2489227
File: 1744815099140.jpg (314.64 KB, 900x1714, 1000057565.jpg)

The psyop is coming from inside the house.
>YOU CANT LIKE SEXY MALE BODIES YOU VVILL LIKE GYMRATS
No. 2489233
>>2489110Now post a chart about deformed sperm, sped. Oh wait, it would make men look really bad in comparison, wouldn't it?
>i guess men have this going for them teeheeheeThe cheaper gamete by definition has nothing going for it.
No. 2489236
File: 1744815565440.jpeg (483.95 KB, 828x996, IMG_1038.jpeg)

I fucking hate how this moid looks and no matter what his fluoride stare selfies go viral every few months and pop up on my feed with thousands of likes, absolutely disgusting rage fuel for me
No. 2489288
>>2489179Not all women in their 40s need IVF. Even if it’s their first time child. I know a woman who had a kid at 44 with 0 IVF. She took good care of herself and her partner was 10 years younger.
The kid is kind of high functioning autistic though kek.
No. 2489308
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>>2489233…I literally just said that only 10% of moid sperm is not deformed (a generous guess, I've heard estimates as low as 4%, in some countries it is even lower). Most sperm have some sort of tail deformity, creating a device to make them reach the egg anyway goes against the purpose of having the healthiest sperm survive.
No. 2489327
File: 1744820412043.jpg (114.03 KB, 1500x1000, 1000022971.jpg)

>>2489308So if ovaries make sure that the highest quality egg is released and waiting to be fertilized each month, yet the vast majority of sperm is deformed with only 10% or less being healthy, isn't this the biological equivalent of the ugly man psyop's bottom line? The woman putting in so much, coordinated, and pristine effort to be her best while the male counterpart is sloppy, lackluster, and mediocre in general execution? Affirmative Action for downy sperm cells is basically the biological version of Lana Del Rey with her fugly husband.
No. 2489467
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Daughter and father
No. 2489479
File: 1744827392745.png (1.08 MB, 1079x1885, 1000021335.png)

I'm gonna make this next threadpic