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No. 2550003

This thread is dedicated to all and any fandom discourse. Global rules apply: don't infight, report and ignore bait, etc.

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No. 2550052

>pic rel
So what are we gonna talk about then?

No. 2550066

Is anyone actually that pressed about representation in fandom/media? Maybe I just have fatigue, it's been a long time since I've found something new that I like, but I can’t help but wonder is it my own apathy or just genuine lack of need to see every person (or myself) inserted into things that I watch. Representation has been such a big topic for years and it really feels like it doesn't matter that much for everything to show everybody all the time.

No. 2550083

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>>2550066
blogposting but as a black woman, representation is nice but at the end of the day it never mattered too much to me. (For ex. I related more to Princess Daisy as a young tomboy than I did any black character on TV.)

That being said, i've never been the kind of person that HAS to see someone that shares the same physical traits as me to know I can do something. But I think that's rare in human beings to not need that kind of external validation.

Most people are visual creatures like that and need to see it, which is why we have this whole dumb topic that's been lasting for years.

No. 2550085

>>2550052
All of them. I'm going to get a bingo before you and win the thread.

No. 2550095

>>2550083
I feel you, nonnie. I'd rather see different kinds of women than the forced diversity we've been getting in the last decade. A tomboy princess would be more awesome. Also, I love princess Daisy's colors. It's interesting because I've grown up in the cosplay scene for the last 20 years now and black women cosplaying has never been an issue, but recently more people are focused hard on it. I just want better written women characters in general.

No. 2550107

>>2550095
fr its so weird. I cosplayed as L and another black friend of mines cosplayed as Envy from FMA back then and no one gave a shit that we were POC or w/e, we all just cared about the source material. I never had that insecurity that I couldn't cosplay as my fave character because we didn't share the same race/gender like I see now in the cosplay community.
This weird hyperfocus on race etc. has actually divided us a lot more imo than unite us.

No. 2550121

I’ve came to the conclusion that male nerds are subhuman and deserve all the possible hate and harassment they can get. I think it’s really funny how they complained about being boolied in high school or whatever as if anyone cares, kek. We need a mass exodus of moids from fandom spaces for good.

No. 2550128

>>2550083
I'm black too, and I hate when anything non-white or male needs to represent every group under the sun. I came for women, not amab NBs in drag?

No. 2550133

>>2550083
Ayrt I also think that there is a lack of character diversity in the sense that a majority of characters also have the same personality and storylines, over and over and over. maybe I'd be less apathetic towards it if I was seeing things like characters with traits that make their plot/development more intriguing. I don't know how many more times I can stomach a character that is a copy and paste of another character except this time it's totes different because they're taking the easy way out with visual rep rather than writing underrepresented types

No. 2550134

>>2550121
I seen a twitter post once saying something along the lines of "the needs are now surface level idiot consoomers and the jocks are reading ancient texts and LOTRfags". They're all moids so it makes no difference but it was a weirs realisation that moid nerds have become this horrific unsympathetic entity that I can only wish the worst upon instead of feeling kinda guilty seeing one get slammed into a locker. Burn their interests the ground is what I say

No. 2550135

>>2550128
This is exactly the way I feel. This is less about fandom and more about media in general, but it makes me cringe so hard the way categories like “female” and “nonwhite” get grouped with every other social justice topic in fiction sometimes, especially when some people online see gendieshit as the only meaningful category of minority.

No. 2550153

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thoughts?

No. 2550162

>>2549884
Last time I saw the comments, it was just women being nostalgic. Probably has something to do with the moid attention the video got >>2549002

No. 2550181

>>2550083
The picrel looks ai generated

No. 2550203

>>2550153
watchmojo still exists?

No. 2550207

>>2550203
Kek that's exactly what I was about to say

No. 2550213

>>2550181
all AI images have a smoking gun, and this one's no different- how come her necktie merges into one fabric piece before the knot? not to mention that janky earring on the right, and that INCREDIBLE background.

No. 2550353

>>2550213
I thought danbooru banned ai?

No. 2550370

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No. 2550375

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>>2550095
>>2550095
as a kid I felt more represented/connected to characters that shared my personality traits rather than just looks. probably because I was already surrounded by people who looked like me. relatability is important for kids but it’s not exclusive to just race
>>2550353
>>2550181
it’s not AI. it’s just the type of generic art that gets fed into AI

No. 2550376

>>2550370
>art so soulless it gets mistaken for ai
rendermaxxing strikes again

No. 2550381

>>2550213
Have people forgotten artists can just be mediocre

No. 2550385


No. 2550387

>>2550381
It feels traced from ai image

No. 2550391

>>2550370
Kek I guess it's just a retard who doesn't know how ties work.

No. 2550393

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Yes, it's a troon.

No. 2550396

>>2550393
Who's that?

No. 2550418

>>2550153
Watchmojo was always a money hungry ,viewer-bait channel.Of course they were going to take a route that could attract possible newer viewers with controversial titles/takes.I don’t get how people are wringing about this when the channel hasn’t been relevant in eons and never had any quality control in the first place.These tards are just giving them what they wanted.

No. 2550458

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what the fuck is he talking about?

No. 2550460

>>2550458
It looks like they darkened her eyebrows?? okay, men are retarded

No. 2550463

>>2550458
It’s the same fucking model with slightly different lighting and camera angles. Gamer moids were a mistake.

No. 2550466

>>2550458
I know nothing about this game, but left just looks like really unflattering lighting.

No. 2550488

>>2550458
Am I tripping or is that the same fucking model?

No. 2550551

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>>2550066
I think representation may be nice for small kids, but honestly, I never cared for that. I usually enjoyed way more the dyanmic of trying to become like the character rather than the character having to be like me.

No. 2550590

>>2550458
Funny Cdpr is being considered a woke company only now when they went out of their way to remove a lot of shit from the witcher books, like kek. Geralt wants adult women. Woke shit probably also includes Geralt not wanting to bang someone he considers his daughter. Witchers are meant to be fucking ugly, if anything Ciri is a witcher supermodel even on a bad day.

No. 2550610

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>>2550066
Personally, when I want representation, I just write my own fanfics.

No. 2550617

>>2550551
>>2550066
I think representation is important to show children that differences exist and they don't have to be scared of it. For example, a lot of kids are frightened the first time they meet a visibly disabled person, but if they've already seen disabilities on TV or something they won't react so badly. Once you reach your teenage years, though, it's ridiculous to expect validation from media.

No. 2550651

>>2550610
So do I. I don't know why this concept is lost on the youth. They're all so retarded and need everything to be canon and official.

No. 2550693

>>2550651
I'd be happy they shared my ideals and life, could give less of a damn about skin color.

No. 2550710

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>>2550651
Responding to say this. I view race bending for "representation" the same as when dumb "fans" horribly mischaracterize because "it's my headcanon". If you truly love a character, you wouldn't change them in a way that disrupts the fundamentals of what and "who" that character is meant to be, even down to the design essentials of what makes that character physically themselves. If you "need" to redraw a character as a different race than what they are, or if you "need" to rewrite them in a way that's objectively stupid compared to what the source material is actually telling you just so you can "digest" and like the character, you're not a real fan. You're just in the fandom to fuck around. It is for that train of logic that I also personally believe that 99% of coomer artists are not real fans of the movies, shows, books, comics, and games they make porn of. When 90+% of them cannot even get the physique of the character accurate to what they're meant to appear as, I'm going to have a difficult time believing that they truly have respect for the media itself.

No. 2550736

>>2550710
>It is for that train of logic that I also personally believe that 99% of coomer artists are not real fans of the movies, shows, books, comics, and games they make porn of.
One of the main reasons fanart lost all meaning for me. At this point, just call it FOTM art and not "fanart" because you need the spark to draw their favorite character. I may have less views for not wanting to do fanart, but I see it as my own way of respecting a character since I don't have the same chops or understanding that the original maker had when they made them. The author may not be the true presider of canon, but compared to what "fans" often do, It feels like a the mona lisa vs sonichu situation. The only case where fanart and fanfic are better than the source material are genuinely mid to bad media, but then is it really fandom?

No. 2550744

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>>2550003
>(…) children or troons arguing on Xitter
that's all this general is kek that might as well be the only box (and yet I keep coming back)
it also hurts seeing danganronpa and homestuck in the same box, even if i get why

>>2550153
>>2550418
I have zero sympathy at this point, twittards are so used to being feared and coddled they thought everyone else would keep their heads down and do as they say forever

No. 2551962

>>2550181
me when i'm bored and need to make up shit to argue about

No. 2552010

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Can we include parasocial celebs in the fandomsperg thread? I think Jelena shippers are a good example but Royalfans are literally group psychosis. It's been a decade and they're still saying Meghan seduced their precious Harry. The current tinfoil is Meghan faking all her pregnancies kek

No. 2552013

>>2551962
This reply seems ai generated hmm
>>2552010
These cretins have nothing to dianafags



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