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>>>/ot/2532214 No. 2550083
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>>2550066blogposting but as a black woman, representation is nice but at the end of the day it never mattered too much to me. (For ex. I related more to Princess Daisy as a young tomboy than I did any black character on TV.)
That being said, i've never been the kind of person that HAS to see someone that shares the same physical traits as me to know I can do something. But I think that's rare in human beings to not need that kind of external validation.
Most people are visual creatures like that and need to see it, which is why we have this whole dumb topic that's been lasting for years.
No. 2550095
>>2550083I feel you,
nonnie. I'd rather see different kinds of women than the forced diversity we've been getting in the last decade. A tomboy princess would be more awesome. Also, I love princess Daisy's colors. It's interesting because I've grown up in the cosplay scene for the last 20 years now and black women cosplaying has never been an issue, but recently more people are focused hard on it. I just want better written women characters in general.
No. 2550107
>>2550095fr its so weird. I cosplayed as L and another black friend of mines cosplayed as Envy from FMA back then and no one gave a shit that we were
POC or w/e, we all just cared about the source material. I never had that insecurity that I couldn't cosplay as my fave character because we didn't share the same race/gender like I see now in the cosplay community.
This weird hyperfocus on race etc. has actually divided us a lot more imo than unite us.
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thoughts?
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>>2550095>>2550095as a kid I felt more represented/connected to characters that shared my personality traits rather than just looks. probably because I was already surrounded by people who looked like me. relatability is important for kids but it’s not exclusive to just race
>>2550353>>2550181it’s not AI. it’s just the type of generic art that gets fed into AI
No. 2550393
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Yes, it's a troon.
No. 2550458
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what the fuck is he talking about?
No. 2550551
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>>2550066I think representation may be nice for small kids, but honestly, I never cared for that. I usually enjoyed way more the dyanmic of trying to become like the character rather than the character having to be like me.
No. 2550590
>>2550458Funny Cdpr is being considered a woke company only now when they went out of their way to remove a lot of shit from the witcher books, like kek. Geralt wants
adult women. Woke shit probably also includes Geralt not wanting to bang someone he considers his daughter. Witchers are meant to be fucking ugly, if anything Ciri is a witcher supermodel even on a bad day.
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>>2550066Personally, when
I want representation, I just write my own fanfics.
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>>2550651Responding to say this. I view race bending for "representation" the same as when dumb "fans" horribly mischaracterize because "it's my headcanon". If you truly love a character, you wouldn't change them in a way that disrupts the fundamentals of what and "who" that character is meant to be, even down to the design essentials of what makes that character physically themselves. If you "need" to redraw a character as a different race than what they are, or if you "need" to rewrite them in a way that's objectively stupid compared to what the source material is actually telling you just so you can "digest" and like the character, you're not a real fan. You're just in the fandom to fuck around. It is for that train of logic that I also personally believe that 99% of coomer artists are not real fans of the movies, shows, books, comics, and games they make porn of. When 90+% of them cannot even get the physique of the character accurate to what they're meant to appear as, I'm going to have a difficult time believing that they truly have respect for the media itself.
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>>2550003>(…) children or troons arguing on Xitterthat's all this general is kek that might as well be the only box (and yet I keep coming back)
it also hurts seeing danganronpa and homestuck in the same box, even if i get why
>>2550153>>2550418I have zero sympathy at this point, twittards are so used to being feared and coddled they thought everyone else would keep their heads down and do as they say forever
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Can we include parasocial celebs in the fandomsperg thread? I think Jelena shippers are a good example but Royalfans are literally group psychosis. It's been a decade and they're still saying Meghan seduced their precious Harry. The current tinfoil is Meghan faking all her pregnancies kek
No. 2552013
>>2551962This reply seems ai generated hmm
>>2552010These cretins have nothing to dianafags
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No. 2552599
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What's with this phenomenon where women will defend character designs in smut by comparing them to real women's bodies?
No. 2552816
>>2552802>There are far more pertinent women's issues in the world than a literal fictional character's tit size.True! So why are you getting offended on behalf of fictional characters who are designed for coomers? Because that's what the discussion is about kek. Are you one of those people who thinks Sonico is supposed to be empowering fat representation?
>Inb4 reeeeee chestletJokes on you, my bewbs are average so I have the right to call both sides of this spergy argument retarded
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my default position on posts like this is that, until proven otherwise, they are made by autistic virgins who have literally never touched anyone of the opposite or same sex. The only thing they have that resembles sexual experiences is online rp with other autistic virgins.
No. 2552929
>>2552802The world doesn’t run on anime logic, go outside and talk to people for once
>>2552907I have small boobs and the only time I’ve ever been body shamed for it is by fat women or MTF troons. Ironically enough, I’ve never seen a skinny or even just average weight woman with big boobs project onto oversexualized big tit women, it’s always fatties. One of my personal cows is an obese weeb who draws herself as skinny with big boobs and claims anyone who doesn’t like those hypersexualized women is totally jealous
No. 2553261
>>2552802>>2552929>>2552813>>2552907I have large breasts and still think those are retarded and that moids who like coomslop should be culled, but I don't like the nonas calling everyone who has big boobs fat
You guys exaggerate. The obvious solution is to ban moids from drawing
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i just can't handle modern fandom anymore. even nerdy hobby spaces online feel nearly unbearable…i just can't believe it. fandom is full of gender humor and spicy straights now, witch hunting, the dumbest discourse over the stupidest, most pointless bullshit. it's so…….i don't even have a word for it. the fact that you can't even really escape it is what really gets me lol. this shit infects millennials, zoomers, everything. it's like i have to be a hermit online now
No. 2553343
>>2553338I’m not surprised because this board is full of impoverished troons who are depressed about their gross pointy HRT A cups and can’t afford surgery, and insecure autistic anachans with long ring fingers and excess androgens, whose discord e-bf loser Nigels are all porn addicts.
These losers fly into a rage whenever they see a woman who reminds them of their shitty relationship with their hentai addicted moid who makes them feel like they’re not good enough for having huge anime girl tits and they try to frame this insecurity and intrasexual competition as some kind of retard version of feminism. Then they get super upset when you can see right through them and call them out for it kek.
No. 2553346
>>2552816Are you the same retard who was having a meltdown about Super Sonico like a month ago? Holy fuck you’re STILL mad about that??? I would be
triggered by cartoon tits too if my bf chose wanking over it to having sex with me. I feel sorry for you. Pixels and big boobied women aren’t the enemy, your moid is. Leave him.
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>>2553351Also like think about it logically. If you have small breasts and are happy with them, why would you be upset that men lust over big titted ladies? Wouldn’t you be happy that men are leaving you alone and paying you less attention anyway, since moids are evil scum and trash? And if all big titted women are pickmes who enjoy the attention anyway, like you claim, then how does it affect you in any way and why do you want to ‘save them’?
Let them have those coomer moids, it doesn’t affect your life unless your moid is a coomer too.
No. 2553373
>>2553335Imagine being such a pickme gangbanger you unironically say shit like this. Holy shit kek
>>2553341>>2553343>>2553351Why are you so adamant on defending some Reddit moid just because some women don’t want women with absurdly big tits wearing revealing clothing. You sound like such a fucking NLOG. Go play nikke and zzz to impress the moids you love to placate so much. This all started because I said women not wanting to see oversexualized depictions doesn’t equal jealousy and that’s literal scrote thinking. This has never been controversial to point out in previous threads, and I don’t see why it is now. Stop justifying bodyshaming with more bodyshaming you fucking hypocrite. Also since you’re weirdly insistent on it, my BF loves my body and he’s not a deranged coomer like you want to be so bad.
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>>2553380All this because you can’t accept I’m right and you are bodyshaming women because they dare criticize male gaze slop. That you Addy?
>>2553381If fatty-chan didn’t lose her mind over women rightfully being upset over picrel (I decided to look for myself) and make up fantasies about my boyfriend jacking off to other girls like a scrote none of this would’ve happened. Considering the original subreddit is for male yandere stuff which is a fetish for women with low self esteem and often goes hand in hand with maledom, so I’m not surprised the users on that subreddit are defending it at least
No. 2553408
>>2553395You’re desensitized to porn and oversexualized depictions of women. As is the case with most women into nerd hobbies.
>>2553405Fat people can lose weight. Who cares? Muh fatphobia is a burger issue anyway.
No. 2553417
>>2553408you pretty much just immediately invalidated your own argument in one breath. you don't actually care about body shaming because you immediately call any woman who disagrees with you fat. i am not even fat btw, just pointing out your hypocrisy. you just don't like seeing big tits and are arguing in bad faith and multiple people have called you out on it now.
>>2553413is also correct. i think you are a very confused and low iq underage poster.
No. 2553421
>>2553399>You can’t deny that’s a porny character design. Breasts aren't even a sexual organ, that's a very male gaze/pornbrained judgement to make. And yes, skinny women with huge breasts exist, get over it. Giving them representation is not a crime.
>>2553416That goes both ways for women with large breasts too. But you're only upset about one way and think it's fine to shame one group of women but pearl clutch and cry when yours gets shamed. You can't have it both ways. Either bodyshaming women is wrong, or it isn't.
No. 2553422
>>2553413I am an adult. I just don’t care. Go read your josei smut comics with G cup women that get abused and raped by the male love interests in suits.
>>2553417It isnt about women with big breasts because you can have nonsexualized depictions of women with big tits, you’re the one acting like that can’t exist. Straight women don’t like seeing exposed tits, why is that hard for you to understand?
No. 2553426
>>2553422I don't get aroused or offended by breasts, no matter how big or small they are, because I'm straight and know that breasts are not a sexual organ. Do you also get offended when women breastfeed in public?
>Straight women don’t like seeing exposed tits, why is that hard for you to understand?I wouldn't say I don't like it. I would say that it doesn't bother me at all, no more than seeing a person's bare arms or legs bothers me, in other words, not at all. If there was a woman with huge boobs and cleavage showing standing right in front of me, I would not flinch. Same goes for character designs.
>but men will jack off to itMen will jack off to a 25kb low res picture of a woman's feet in sandals. I don't care what men are thinking or sexualize since they are going to sexualize everything anyway.
No. 2553439
>>2553421>m-muh representation?Ironic of you to call me underage when you’re bitching about representation as if women with big tits can’t just check any anime or manga ever for representation. I don’t know if you’ve ever read josei or adult manga for women, but the femc is almost ALWAYS oversexualized with gigantic tits wearing sexy clothing. The average cup size in Korea (in the case of the mentioned manga) is an A or B cup as far as I’m concerned. If anything there’s the opposite issue, where the readers are so insecure about their body they must imagine it as an idealized pornified version of themselves.
Anyway, I never once shamed women with big boobs unlike the anons here who have said degrading terms for women with small boobs like a scrote. I made fun of fatties, who cares? Being fat is a gender neutral trait and a skill issue. Also the woman in the original screenshot you defended is a pickme who uses slurs such as cunt for female characters. This typology of yumejos are always massive pickmes so I’m not surprised
No. 2553445
>>2553438You are just changing goalposts now as an attempt at some kind of gotcha. First everyone who disagreed with you was a fatty. Now everyone who disagrees with you is a pedophile too apparently.
>>2553442Completely agree. I genuinely cannot getting offended by boobs, ever. I would check myself into a mental health facility if seeing tits in public caused me to crashout like sperg-chan.
No. 2553455
>>2553426Wow, you really are brainwashed right down to the point of thinking that a woman breastfeeding and oversexualized depictions of women are the same thing. Hope you get over your ailment soon, women being objectified should always disgust you.
>>2553428You think that’s unhinged? Kek
>>2553445That anon wasn’t me but they’re right and it doesn’t exist in a vacuum. Oversexualization of women and girls is disgusting period. The fact that you as a woman aren’t offended by oversexualized depictions of them tells me everything I need to know.
>>2553449Stop putting words in my mouth retard. I think they’re both disgusting and I have panned loli faggotry on here numerous times before. Either way, I was for the most part talking about josei which to begin with shouldn’t feature hentai-tier women to begin with.
No. 2553459
>>2553455This will be my final reply to you because you still aren't getting it. But honestly you strongly give off the impression of a pornsick underagefag and have heavily internalized the male gaze. Big breasted female characters are not automatically hypersexualized or offensive, and small breasted women are not inherently 'lolis' or pedobaiting (nobody even brought up lolifag shit except you when I mentioned small boobs, jumping onto the loli wagon over small tits is just weird imo)
It's genuinely sad and concerning that you box female characters into porn categories depending on their breast size.
No. 2553467
>>2553455artists can draw their characters however they want because it's their art. if certain boob sizes are offensive to you, then don't consume that artist's art that
triggers you. seems pretty straightforward to me. there are josei characters with every boob size imaginable, i'm sure you can find one that fits you and doesn't send you spiralling.
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Okay now I'm weirded out, this thread has been laughing at josei tits forever. What's next, solid snake is actually attractive?
No. 2553475
>>2553472replace laughing with crying and you might be right, not many laughs going on here, but a whole lot of seething.
here's an idea. email the mangaka and ask them to draw their character's boobs to your personal size preference.
No. 2553479
>>2553459>honestly you strongly give off the impression of a pornsick underagefag and have heavily internalized the male gazeProjection.
>Big breasted female characters are not automatically hypersexualized or offensive, and small breasted women are not inherently 'lolis' or pedobaitingI literally said that myself.
>nobody even brought up lolifag shit except you when I mentioned small boobs, jumping onto the loli wagon over small tits is just weird imo) I say that because most if not all loli characters have small boobs, and I can’t even think of any single anime or manga besides maybe like 3 where a small chested character ISNT a loli.
>It's genuinely sad and concerning that you box female characters into porn categories depending on their breast size.Oh no, I grouped characters designed to appeal to moids fetishes into their rightful boxes. The horror!
>>2553461You know EXACTLY what I mean, don’t play coy.
>>2553467This is the same logic libfems use to justify women oversexualizing themselves and other women under patriarchal conditions.
>>2553472Influx of twitterfags. Not even a few threads ago those same people were seething over an anon calling that character ugly ironically enough
No. 2553483
>>2553479literally just don't consume art that
triggers you then. how hard is this to do? what's the ideal booby size that doesn't send you into a spiral? i'll email the mangaka right now for you and request it. i think you're just intentionally looking for things to rage over lol.
No. 2553490
>>2553480>Tbh I don't really give a shit about tits unless it's taking half of the screen up and covering the sexy mani agree nona and you're one of the few level headed people in this thread. tbh i cant even remember a josei where that actually happened, but you're probably correct that it does in a handful of particularly porny joseis.
thing is that anon is acting like the female character here
>>2553389 has some insanely ridiculously huge triple Z cup boobs, when it looks like a large DD or E cup at most to me (not even a rare boob size irl). also she was whining about the boobies being exposed? they're fully covered in that screenshot even, lol.
No. 2553493
>>2553479I was on your side at first because I too have encountered stuff like
>>2553438 and I thought that's what you were talking about in general. But then it turns out you mean this
>>2553389? Which is literally a completely normal body type and not even drawn in a particularly sexualized way. Get a grip. I think you've started out being mad about a legitimate issue and then gotten oversensitized into fuming over not just actual sexualization, but any body type a man could possibly find attractive at all, which is all of them.
No. 2553494
>>2553486i'm trying to help you nona. i am fluent in japanese too. give me the artist names whose art is
triggering you and the character names whose bodies you want them to change to your liking, and i'll email them right now, saying that their art is too sexualized and misogynistic and that they need to change it asap.
No. 2553514
>>2553499But you’d want a character that resembles your body, no? Why would a woman with small tits want a S/I big boobs unless she’s afflicted with patriarchal conditioning?
>>2553497I will not fall
victim to you libfems gaslighting me into thinking that is totally nonsexualized
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>>2553502I personally think the way Haesoo is drawn is beautiful, as well as Taeha. I didn't sexualize her, because I have no interest in doing so. They are both gives exaggerated characteristics (large boobs for Haesoo, massive shoulders for Taeha, both have very young looking and beautiful faces) so it's not like some fat ugly bastard stuff with a hideous shittily drawn male character and a pornified female. Taeha is meant to be beautiful and idealized looking too. Some coomers probably will hypersexualize Haesoo but hey, coomers sexualize everything, so who really gives a shit.
It's an 18+ manhwa with adult themes, it's not meant to be read by tweens. It would be a problem imo if Haesoo was presented as some brainless bimbo pickme with no depth, but she's actually given a lot of depth and isn't made out to be a one dimensional slut at all. People who are seeing her as a smut character are just projecting onto her imo.
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>>2553521You are so boring and miserable.
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>>2553389>anons defending thistopkek whats going on, next they are going to defend super sonico
No. 2553534
>>2553523If I wanted to fap and was immediately granted with a female more sexualized than the male id be put off immediately and not wanna masturbate.
>>2553526Nope. I just don’t like men who look like they take dick on the regular and have had their lip fillers and BBL paid for by their sugar daddies.
No. 2553543
>>2553536>defending the mascot for a company that makes loli rape games with the artist drawing toddlercon porn of herRetarded or newfag, which one?
>>2553538Nope. I just don’t fall
victim to patriarchal social programming
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>>2553544This bait is a bit too much.
No. 2553563
>>2553529you dont get it anon, they have 18z natural self supporting breasts, a waist so tiny its literally just empty space between their tits and their ass
and a tiny frame with a gigantic natural ass that everyone stares at
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>>2553529the funniest part is this is old(er) sonico art, her proportions have only gotten more insane. spoilered just in case.
No. 2553571
>>2553529No, because what this argument boils down to is Sonico is bad because she's for moids while
>>2553389 isn't because she's from a comic for women.
This is why I don't care about women complaining about sexualization in media. Anons would be shitting on Haesoo's design instead if she looked exactly the same but placed in a moid comic.
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>>>/ot/2552562A fanbase that I'm glad is inevitably going to become a fraction by the end of 2025. IHNMAIMS dogwalks MW to hell and back anyway. Even Ib is more fun as a game because at least in there you can fuck up in different ways to get more than one ending. Story-based games need to get used to having more than one ending and way to play the game. MW doesn't do anything with itself other than basically say "look at what a piece of shit Jimmy is". If the appeal of a game is the story and there's only one ending you can get, what reason ever is there to play it more than once or just twice?
No. 2553743
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>>2553389You might get booed and heckled for your opinion, but I agree. The way Haesoo is drawn feels a little off to me too. No other woman in the entire manhwa has her proportions. I have noticed that some korean shojosei manhwa tend to give the FL comically huge boobs as a visual marker of how she is supposed to be the superior woman. Meanwhile, the male characters like Taeha and Mincheol all have similar, balanced proportions.
I remember reading another manhwa "Your Majesty Please Spare Me", where the FL had this ridiculously huge monoboob. It looked especially wild next to all the other female characters, who were drawn normally. It is not even just about the art though. What really kills the experience for me is how these stories treat every single woman who is not the FL.
Almost without fail every other female character is written as some jealous, bitter bitch who exists just to make the FL look good. Haesoo's coworker was actually sweet to her at first, and then out of nowhere she flips and turns into a bitch. Then there is that other retard who sleeps with Haesoo’s ex-husband. The ex is actual trash so I can overlook this instance. Even in the flashbacks, every single woman is horrible to Haesoo just because Mincheol has a crush on her.
It is hard to take any of this seriously when the entire cast is just there to prop up the main girl. Feels less like a story and more like straight-up wish fulfillment.
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>>2553815>>2553824The only time I actually liked a manwha and when the artstyle didn't made me want to vomit was Secret Alliance
No. 2553863
>>2553743Tbh her and her boytoy's looks activate my neurons so it's more like a "hot couple I'm rooting for" aspect for me. Also I actually like the poverty orphan ex husband and his rich younger gf, they make me laugh at how ill suited they are for one another but he has no option but to stay with her and change himself if he wants somewhere to stay. After being used to bossing the FL around, he has no power in this new situation and I want to see where it goes. I also thought it was so sweet that his younger gf
hugged him when he confessed he was an orphan who lived in poverty and was scared she'd reject him for not being manly enough or something. And I like how sorta-psycho the FL's boytoy is.I actually hard agree that the flower shop coworker girl was written weirdly, even for a fan like me I was like "uhh okay. I guess if it was going to be anyone to create conflict within the story the only option was her because the supporting cast are so limited because the FL doesn't go out." Kek. So I just rolled with it. I guess if the Coworker Character was a male he might be aggressive towards the FL instead and be like "you should respect your husband!!" because he'd be automatically intimidated by a hawtie like the FL's love interest, but with a Female Coworker she would have attempted to get on the LI's good side by "warning" him? Which has the double effect of "the supporting cast think he's hot so the audience can tell that he's hot" (tropes that the comics industry does often with their opposite-sex casts e.g. "all the boys want her" "all the girls want him") and fulfils the "The LI only has eyes for the FL when he inevitably rejects the side character" trope. So if my assumptions are correct I can see it from a "comic writer" point of view even if it doesn't make total sense as a reader.
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>>2553830It's a shame, her design has so much potential. I actually think
>>2553529 could be cute if it god rid of that corset that makes it look like the circulation of her boobs are being cut off and a petticoat underneath her skirt. Much cuter and comfier
>>2553848>i’m sure you enjoy your male ryona abuse yaoi femdom or whateverIs this supposed to be a bad thing? NTA but my self esteem isn't low enough to the point where I have to project onto a monster titted woman who look like they have surgery done every month. If you are a fan of moid tier shit like SI having giant tits to show that she's the "superior" woman like
>>2553743 said I'm just gonna asssume you're a pickme with cripplingly a cripplingly low self image.
No. 2553893
>>2553877I don't really understand why people are so sad about Sonico's "wasted potential" because she looks like every other pink-haired waifu (Luka from Vocaloid is right there if you want a music-themed one) but I agree with the overall point kek. I've noticed that these anons always start sperging about muh ryona femdom out of nowhere when manwha tropes are
mildly criticised.
>>2553743 is obviously written by an unbiased
nonnie who read the story and gave it a fair shot, so I'm not sure why
>>2553848 is so upset.
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>>2553491>the mullet is stopping Solid Snake from being attractiveNonna I'm ready to have a sonico boob level of intensity when I argue that it's more than that fuck ass mullet that is the problem
No. 2554079
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Killing Stalking got mentioned itt and we're on manwha discussion now so I'm finally going to ask: what if your honest god opinion on this and did you enjoy it?
No. 2554093
>>2554079This may seem mean but I read it as a comedy and the ending made me laugh really fucking hard. The mc was too ridiculous looking for me to take seriously (how old was he supposed to be anyway? 30? His cheeks were so chubby but his body so anorexic, and I was hoping the seme would bottom so that felt like a waste.
The seme seriously gets smothered to death with a pillow by an old lady because he wouldn't shut the fuck up, how is that not meant to be funny? I think I also felt bad for the glasses guy.
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Genuinely can't tell if lost Kiwifags or lost Twitterfags itt
>>2554079I read it like it was a soap opera and loved it, it was so entertaining. Sangwoo was such a delightfully over-the-top villain and I'll admit I was got quite interested in learning his backstory. The part where he claimed he assaulted the cop because "I thought he was Yoon Bum's ex boyfriend!!!!" made me laugh so hard, how the fuck did he get away with that
No. 2554156
>>2554079Thought it was funny as hell, and didn't stop reading it until the end when I first discovered it. Didn't the creator say that Sangwoo isn't even gay, and was horny for Yoonbum because his mind was actually attracted to the thoughts and memories of
his mother? I think the mommy issues being a motive for holding Yoonbim hostage isn't stupid, but it's like come on just say he's a faggot.
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>>2554079Stopped reading at the end of the first season because I knew it peaked at that. I also bought the entire thing legally on Lezhin
when it was on discount so I have full access to HD image quality with high quality eng translations kek yet I've never made use of it. The type of greed they talk about in the bible etc.
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>>2554066I mentioned the mullet because MGS5 is the most realistic looking game, Snake is Big Boss' clone and Big Boss in MGS5 doesn't look too bad for a middle aged white man
because for some reason he's not hafu anymore? I don't get this plot point but whatever aside from the hideous mullet. It's especially true with how he looks in the MGS3 remake trailers where he's in his late 20s or early 30s. Obviously Snake looks less realistic in MGS2 because of the limitations of the PS2 and he looks better as Pliskin, his bandana gives him a very unflattering resting bitch face. Snake as a young adult looks like this so we'll never know his true potential.
No. 2554257
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can anyone who's more in tune with cn/jp/kr/non english speaking fandoms confirm if they're also troon obsessed? i never see tit chop scars, and cuntboy content is always buried under a thousand cw warnings, but i can't actually speak the language so i don't know how the politics are over there.
No. 2554268
>>2553538I'd argue it's more cucked to be so insecure in your own appearance that you
have to self insert as a male-gaze-centric character like Super Sonico. Is that not basically an admission that you'd have to have a giant butt, cartoonishly large boobs, and the face of an alien baby to be sexually appealing?
No. 2554271
>>2554257I’m most familiar with JP fandoms and troonery is basically nonexistent in fandom outside of a small handful of canon trans characters, and even then JP fans tend to treat those as crossdressers lol. The most you usually see is furanari or cuntboy, or genderless characters since JP doesn’t need to use he/she like English does.
The female side of JP fandom tends to be very strict about fanworks that contradict the canon series, ie NSFW, non-canon shipping fanart, AUs, etc, and a lot of JP fans will avoid tagging/using searchable names for that kind of fancontent the first place, or hide it on poipiku/other private sites. A lot of JP fans consider drawing fanart of characters with pride flags to be disrespectful to the original author as well since it’s not like the author has given approval of their characters supporting lgb or tq rights. JP fandom just doesn’t have the climate for troon HCs to take off.
No. 2554309
>>2554279So you're less than 110 pounds and you have double ds, but you don't look like this?
>>2553389You're making me feel like a pervert trying to imagine what a "bricky" 106lb woman with double ds even looks like.
No. 2554312
>>2554309NTAYRT but double ds on a skinny frame are pretty small in comparison to double ds on a fat one. Mines are ds and they fit in my hand. Some people just don't understand boob sizing. The character in
>>2553389 has way bigger than e cup boobs for having a binding that small.
No. 2554316
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>>2554199Everyone in MGS2 is hot I feel. I think Snake is ugly as fuck but I was even able to find him a little attractive as Pliskin even if he's not my type. Otacon and Raiden were peak sex as well. Also had best story, least amount of female coomershit, and most fun gameplay. Best MGS game and it's not even close.
No. 2554317
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>>2554279Anyone who actually looks like Nami from One Piece should be studied in a lab
No. 2554318
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>>2554279>The people saying "zomg I look just like Nami from One Piece" have troon levels of delusion about their bodies.The post really is about that delusion. It's like how some petite women think they look like lolis.
No. 2554341
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>>2554312>double ds on a skinny frame are pretty small in comparison to double ds on a fat one. Mines are ds and they fit in my hand.Now I'm confused. So double d boobs can be small enough to fit into your hand? So if double ds on a small woman can fit into her palms with no problem, I guess I'm somehow double d myself and the skinny worker I saw at my job with enormous boobs actually has z cups or something.
(derailing) No. 2554343
>>2554318this vtumour bitch is such lolcow material kek pretending shes a "uwu smol loli!!" while having a bloated ass face
>>>/w/350155 she also dicksucks pedo moid vtweeters (twitter accounts that pretend to be vtubers despite not streaming) all the time irc she was also friends with bittycat the one who did a asmr rape play where she masturbated to cp
it was a audio of a baby crying and her doing some anime porn shit and also housed a actual convicted pedophile
No. 2554351
>>2554318Kek the way she cropped out her head that would instantly give away that she has adult proportions
>>2554341Breast size is more than just the cup, the band size is equally important. 38DD will be much larger than a 32DD.
No. 2554356
I find it hard to believe anyone has a problem with seeing large-breasted women in anime or other media because they obviously exist in real life. The problem is they're almost always drawn in a sexualized way because men can't stop themselves. It doesn't have to do with having a small waist either, there are real life women with small waists and big boobs, just look at Marina. Plenty of women have thicker thighs, butt, and hips, and can tell when a female design is simply a woman with a bigger lower half and when the artist is sexualizing it. If there's a lot of emphasis on overflow or jiggling or drawing the body part in detail or making it just huge in relation to the rest of the body, you can tell that someone is getting off on it. Unfortunately male artists seem incapable of just depicting a normal woman with big boobs without also making her breast boobily everywhere. I would hope female artists can at least have more variety but nowadays you can't be sure anymore.
>>2554341D cup just means you have a 4 inch difference between bust and underbust measurement, but the shape of the boobs really affects how 'big' they look. For most women, D-cup or even DD isn't some comically large size like men think. A lot of women also wear the wrong size or use an outdated bra sizing method. That being said I don't know if double Ds on a small frame will appear "pretty small".
No. 2554387
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Pseudo intellectual moid can't use his abstract reasoning skills to deduce why this might be the case
No. 2554455
>>2554271>A lot of JP fans consider drawing fanart of characters with pride flags to be disrespectful to the original author as well since it’s not like the author has given approval of their characters supporting lgb or tq rightsI actually saw some Japanese artist on my TL posting something like "why are foreigners drawing characters with flags now? It's weird" in reference to pride month. I've seen plenty of Japanese TRA but they're still a tiny minority and almost always westboos talking about real life issues and maybe sometimes talking about representation in media as a whole. The Japanese artists I see drawing their favorite male characters as cuntboys are the type of fujoshi who are so obsessed with their ships they come up with as many AUs as possible and don't talk about anything trans at all.
>>2554316MGS2 has Olga so it's automatically a good game. By the way I'm still disappointed we'll never have a game about Raiden saving Sunny while she's still a baby.
No. 2554648
>>2550066i'm more offended by bad representation, like stereotypical tropes or "woke" rewrites/raceswaps. I think americans got it right in the late 1990s/2000s and then lost the ability to write decent
black female charterers come the smartphone era
No. 2554731
>>2554648Remind me of this recent kerfuffle over a game about black people stealing back artifacts from museums.
Why would you make a game about that when people will make the obvious take on it? Seriously, just look at the comments.
No. 2554808
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>>2554455Olga is such a damn badass. I love her
No. 2554840
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>>2554789Ayrt, I have never done that before but I will learn how just for you nonna. It will take a while because there are 68 chapters to upload but I will include the q&a and extra bonuses that bring up to 78. Please look forward to it.
No. 2554865
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>>2554782A thorn in MW's fanbase is how immature they are. They went through that meme where you censor Jimmy's name because he's such a piece of shit and everyone hates him, but that's so retarded. Even as a meme, it's retarded because it demonstrates the implied inability for fans to properly discuss Jimmy because he's the antagonist. This gets amusing when you consider that despite Jimmy being a narcissistic, sociopathic, misogynistic, cannibalistic rapist, he still gets mogged by any other game antagonist if we're talking about evil. William Afton from FNaF is a child murderer who killed at LEAST six children. William is objectively more evil than Jimmy, yet nobody censors William's name because despite William being the bad guy, Fnafags get more serious when they try to talk about the characters and wtf is going on in the plot.
Fucking Fnafags are more mature than Mouthwashingfags. Let that sink in.
No. 2554923
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>>2554888Anon, what? You know what? I disagree you. MWfags censoring Jimmy's name arguably contradicts the narrative the game was trying to make about how to respond to sexual assault cases. If you can't mature to discuss sexual assault, the drastic effects it has, the nature around it, and what kind of people commit it, that's pretty much being like Curly because we know him to be a fence-sitter who would rather "pacify" the subject instead of actually confronting it just to make "everyone comfortable". The devs outright say that Curly was in the wrong for not communicating with Anya enough. For not doing something about the situation enough. For not fighting Jimmy's influence enough. The game acts as a criticism on rape culture, including the aspect where people would rather just avoid confronting it even in conversation. When you avoid talking about Jimmy, and avoid talking about the sexual assault when it's time to discuss MW, you are (in a sense) being a coward just like how Curly was. And as for your point, what kind of point even is that? Can't you say the same about murder in that case? And why are we blaming media for faggots chimping out IRL? Come on, anon.
No. 2555048
>>2554731What's the alternative? Never writing a heist story involving a black person because racist will make racist jokes about it? Gamers literally blow their lid any time they see a black person in games nowadays, so your damned if you do or don't at this point, might as well make the game you want to make.
Like look at this comments that was also announced on the xbox stream:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JgQfJcipx4U&ab_channel=IGNAnd you'll see different manners of, "fatigue" dogwhistles, "Dei", "Woke", racial comments. I guess you can't have black women in space either.
No. 2555056
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>>2554973>point out that discussion rape and murder is differentYeah, by essentially blaming video games for when scrotes rape people, and not even differentiating how "video games bad because rape" is any different of an argument boomers use when they say "video games bad because murder".
>you're being a coward!! This game is a criticism on rape culture (ah yes I suppose that's also why the devs are ok with rapeporn of anya the rape victim)Are you talking about the devs telling antis to calm down and not send people death threats over dumbass shit like Jimanya? How is telling people to not send death threats the same with fetishizing rape? Jfc, grow up.
>?? You seem to on par with the same reading comprehension and intellect with the moutheashing fags you are seething aboutYou want to insult my intellect and reading comprehension? When you're the butthurt fag who couldn't even argue how talking about murder is drastically different than talking about rape, blames video games like a boomer, and thinks telling people not to alog is the same as being a rape fetishist? You are a retard, you don't understand the game you're defending, and no amount of "zomg you're immature just like them" is going to magically trick me into believing that you're some high IQ intellect on video games and "muh comprehension" when you come across as a fag who needs TV Tropes to walk you through anything you find. Nice job avoiding the point of what I'm saying by the way, that censoring Jimmy's name goes against the narrative the game is trying to tell the audience. Amazing debating skills coming from a person who so knows wtf they're on about.
>also have you just considered that majority of that fanbase is underaged? Thus avoids wording out uncomfortable topics?Then guess what? Maybe they shouldn't be playing the game if the topic is too serious for their age? Fandoms shouldn't cater to children if the source material isn't designed for children as the audience but for a person who swears that
I lack intellect, it's strange that I have to be the one to explain this. And by the way, you specifically said
>the latter can be encouraged by said media if it depicts it as something that has no consequences.This is how I know you most definitely never even played the game despite defending the fanbase so hard, because the direct consequence of Jimmy assaulting Anya was Anya becoming pregnant, realizing that he wouldn't escape responsibility since they're in the middle of space on a mission that will take at least nine months, with living evidence of what he did to her–followed by trying to crash the ship, which then led to everyone's suffering and death. So Mouthwashing does depict Jimmy's actions being followed by the consequence of his inability to be a responsible human being. So tell me why you're acting like it's so hard to discuss MW's sexual assault if the game makes it very clear that what Jimmy did was not just disgusting, but the whole reason for why the game's plot takes place? You need to simply admit that you are too immature to talk about characters in a productive way, too immature or even just stupid to figure out what the story is trying to tell its audience, too immature and
definitely retarded to confront discussions about sexual assault if you have to blame
video games for why scrotes do it in the real world, utter lacking in nuance for thinking the devs are okay with rape porn for just disagreeing at antis sending death threats at anything that makes them uncomfortable, and bluntly the wrong type of "fan" to be in any fandom if you think watering down discussions just so all lurking children will be more comfortable in a space that isn't meant for their entertainment is going to do wonders for the audience the media is actually meant for.
In short, you are exactly the kind of imbecile I was talking about when I decided to shit on MW's fandom. The kind of "fan" who likely never even watched a gameplay and has the gall to talk about "muh media literacy" at anyone who makes them mildly upset about it.(infighting) No. 2555060
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>>2555006Do you watch anything that isnt moeblob kyoani shit? ugly anime characters are dime a dozen.
No. 2555089
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I actually think webtoons are easily digestible fun after a hard day.(derailing)
No. 2555113
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>>2555106It's just someone forcing the argument again. Most women do not care about the boob size unless they're drawn stupidly.
No. 2555921
>>2555048Exception to this is
Half-Life: Alyx (there are still a few annoyed racists, but they’re drowned out by the excited gamers). Maybe because Alyx has been a character in the
Half-Life franchise since the early 2000s?
No. 2556229
>>2553341I’m one of the ayrt so we’re not all the same anon. tbh I just like calling people fat kek
>>2555077>>2555084>>2555094based and true
>>2555126it’s the bisexual need to be the most annoying person in the room
No. 2556430
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Mouthwashing fans are asking for a plushie for the rapist and ugly old guy.
No. 2556556
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>>2553624I adore IHNMaIMS, but its existing fanbase also has its fair share of people who refuse or fail to engage with the story in one way or another (either because they are MeDiA LiTeRaCy pseuds or braindead yumes). It's become especially noticeable after a bunch of AM's voice lines went viral on TikTok around a year ago. Mouthwashing basically was a more palatable remix of I Have No Mouth for zoom zooms
Please, tell me I'm not the only one who DESTESTS the idea of Gooseworx potentially directing an adaptation. The guy not only has a completely disparate art style that would clash with everything the story stands for, but also proves time and time again to not understand IHNMaIMS at all. I cringe anytime I come across some secondary fan glazing him in the same vein retards want Hunter Schafer casted as Zelda. No. 2558061
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>some fagtard under this post"the female gaze!"
>the "woman" in question
as if the company wasnt being retarded i have to bear with these faggots too in my only female targeted gacha fandom, i wish i could block all western troons from this game
No. 2558065
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>>2558061also seeth and mald troon kek
No. 2558186
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I'm starting to wonder if I'm too old for fandom shit at this point. The constant crash outs over absolutely nothing and trannies everywhere is fucking ridiculous.
No. 2558516
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>>2555151>starts dumb argument on imageboard>an online space meant for discussion>BTFO'd because you had a terrible argument>"uh uh I can't read! Hah!">twitter humor memeEverytime. And zoomers wonder why everyone thinks they're retarded and tells them to go back to normie socials. Why are you even here? Kys faggot kek
(infighting) No. 2558738
>>2558186I'm the same, nonna. There has always been a crazy side to fandom, but it feels like it's been dialled up to 100 in the past few years. I can't stand the constant fighting over the most pathetic non-issues, the pros vs. antis, the idiotic trans headcanons. I've even come to dislike shipping because people are boring and only want to ship "canon ships" nowadays.
I have other interests too, but I just like writing fanfic and sperging about my favourite characters. I just wish there were still normal people to be found online with which to fangirl with.
No. 2559367
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is this the dudebros version of fanfic
No. 2560188
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From the bad art thread. I'm sorry but antis are just as cringe and retarded as proshippers and I'm tired of pretending that they're not. The problem I have with this whole debate is why are typical 2012 tumblr fandom things and women who still yume the husbandos they've had since they were like 15 forceteamed with genuine scroteshit. I enjoy some problematic things in fiction while other things obviously disgust me? Is that not how it is for most people? Why does it have to be an all or nothing thing?
No. 2560414
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>>2560188This TIF is so unbelievably cringe. She’s also psyoped to high hell and calls this thing “conventionally attractive”, definitely pushes it onto other women as well.
>>2560378Weren’t they pretty pro censorship? Sounds about right
No. 2560416
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>>2560414Samefag, it’s really funny how hard they try to make it seem like they’re a totally cis dude when their strawpage is the most “TIF imitating what she thinks scrotes are like which in turn makes her look more female” thing ever.
No. 2560419
>>2560414Not to defend her bad taste but the text in your picrel means the OC
isn't conventionally attractive
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>>2560414>>2560188She also made this mascot
No. 2560423
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>>2560419This is the unattractive OC she was talking about
>>2560422>implying moids have strawpages to begin withEither way, I’ve never seen a single scrote care about anti/proship discourse and if they do they just shamelessly call themselves a proshipper while plastering loli hentai everywhere. Actually, caring that much about the subject is a great way of clocking TIFs.
No. 2560441
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>>2560416the undercover NSA agent when he sees "feds DNI"
No. 2560449
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>>2560434>Monster HighI know we joke about TIFs having girly interests here, but it's ironic because no moid was ever that into Clone High but there are actually quite a few gay men into Monster High and collecting the dolls, and MLP obviously had male fans
>>2560441KEK
>>2560446See picrel. I know Stonetoss is an irrelevant idiot but this comic is very true.
No. 2560451
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>>2560416>look up website>check out the twitter account>she's 18A legal adult acting like this is so bleak, also IMO the art is pretty shitty for an 18 y/o if you told me a 14 y/o drew this
>>2560420 or these
>>2560188 I'd believe you.
No. 2560457
>>2560451the way "free palestine" is sandwiched in between fandom crap and "hnnnng FEET" kek
they really don't mean anything by it
No. 2560459
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>>2560453This is absolutely true but also I wanna be fair and say I've noticed proship spaces are also filled with kids and groomers. If you look up "#proshiptwt" on twitter or sift through the replies on whatever tweet of their has gone viral you'll find tons of 14 year olds posting incest loli porn and being mutuals with adults. They often have pedo dog whistles like "anti-c" in their bio too which is concerning to me, because it implies there's so many open pedos in their spaces they have to go out of their way to specify they don't want anything to do with them even though for most people that's a given. Dedicating an account to this discourse in general is a red flag nonas watch your kids
No. 2560490
>>2560459>They often have pedo dog whistles like "anti-c" in their bio too which is concerning to me, because it implies there's so many open pedos in their spacesIn the Shayna thread (of all places) this topic was briefly touched on a few years back. The dog whistle is "I do this to cope with trauma" (in reference to pro-ship media involving rape/pedo shit/incest). She resposted an underage incest kink twitter account named bunniecunt or something, and another
nonnie pointed out that the account and all their mutual were minors larping this disgusting shit. They were all girls regularly interacting with adult moids larping as corpsehusband, and most of those interactions were oriented around Hannibal/normie husbandofagging/You/all the usual suspects when it comes to fandoms who are insanely perverse but use pro-ship to defend it by crying "I consume this and larp it as a coping mechanism for things that happened to me" from the girls, and the groomer moids sperging "this freak is bothering kids about their fandoms um pedo much?"
No. 2560503
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>>2560424>Also what's with the pee stuff? Does she have a piss kink?No, these people are fake pissfags and don't even know what omorashi is. They use it as a safe edgy aesthetic that isn't "
problematic" but edgy enough to make them seem like they're not like other girls.
No. 2560587
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alright so heres some good ole twitter drama that came across my TL, thought some anons might get a laugh out of it.
The story begins with this girl Rika accusing the artist Three of copying her friends band AU JJK concept
No. 2560589
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>>2560587Three then fired back pointing out quite reasonably that no one owned the band AU concept, and 6 eyes is literally the most basic Gojo themed name you can get
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>>2560589Then the artist Pao shows up in the replies essentially saying pls delete bc feel bad for me uwu~ Unfortunately for Pao, Three's tweet dunking on them is sitting at 86k likes and pver 1 mil impressions as of now.
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>>2556430The company is probably just making profit-driven decisions and chose only to make merch of the characters that would sell well.
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>>2560926I've developed a visceral reaction to the word "mine"
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>>2562147>>2561954>>2561408Considering most of us have never had sex, I think it only makes sense to one day consider what you yourself do while you masturbate, or if you actually have sex, add in your stories what you actually do while fucking which can't be the same as when you masturbate, and it has to be good somehow, right? Otherwise why would you have sex? Kek.
Like, idk, what you want to hear? I honestly always write in my personal fanfics and put in my fantasies stuff like the characters saying things such as how they feel (depending on the context) how much they like my character, describing sensations that are new to them (say, the character your character is fucking is an anime guy that has never touched someone in his life, everything will be new to him. Or the character is a guy that has never touched a woman like (you) and is surprised by how her body feels) or they say stuff they want the other to do like "Hey don't fucking Jack Hammer me" or "Not so fast buck-o".
No. 2562919
>>2562894Nta I think it's less about realism and more about plausibility. Based on my own reading experience, if a fantasy setting had male characters with no refractory period and porny dialogue I'd handwave it off and even be into it depending on if it fits the couple, but if it was a mundane contemporary setting and they were sex gods/goddesses without reason I'd be like
>>2562852 nonna and think "yeah right" and it'd ruin my immersion kek. TPO. Time plot occasion.
No. 2562949
>>2562894Unrealistic sex is bad when it makes me dry.
Unrealistic sex is good when it makes me wet.
It's not complicated for me, or most nonas I imagine.
No. 2562955
>>2562908I’m just saying no one wants to read about shit like dental dams or disgusting tasting semen/juice regardless if they’re a virgin or not so realism isn’t a good indicator
>>2562949you get it
No. 2562974
>>2562949This is it. Particularly applies to M/M sex because who tf wants realistic anal sex and none of the readers are gay men anyway, so writers should 100% take liberties and make it fantasy-good instead of realistic.
You just don't want it to be unrealistic in a way that takes you out of the story and annoys you rather than makes it hotter.
(fujosperging outside containment) No. 2563337
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>>2562745CharacterAi dropping the M bomb (mmmfwagghhh) during a sexy part of the plot I orchestrated was my personal Alexa farting alone in the dark moment
No. 2563378
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thought this was an own
No. 2563434
>>2563378>>2563384Kids don't need fandom on social media. They should just do fandom in real life as a club among their peers.
Yes, even if the franchise itself is childish.
No. 2563446
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>the state of “himejoshis”
No. 2563498
>>2563446Every time I scroll past this I laugh.
>"What if one girl just laid there and the other girl did all the work… And what if the girl that did all the work was actually a boy?? Women truly can do anything.">>2562675>>2562717I guess this screenshot can answer your questions on virgins writing sex kekk.
No. 2563545
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>>2563446>stone topAnybody else start hating a ship or characters because of the aggressive top/bottom autism EVERYWHERE? I have noticed they/thems on twitter are even more obsessed with this shit. They literally start shrieking and pulling their hair out if you are into vers or switching. It is so annoying how they claim kweerio ships are superior to straight stuff, but then they are just weirdly obsessed with making one person the "man" in the relationship.
This shit is getting more and more prominent in both yaoi and yuri fanbases. If it is yaoi, then the bottom is likely a cuntboy. If it is yuri, then the top somehow has a dick. And the way they express their horniness for top and bottom characters is just equally bizarre. If it is someone they have collectively decided is the bottom, then that character becomes the "wife" everyone wants to impregnate. If it is the designated top, then they want that character to fuck them senseless. Why does this even matter if both characters are of the same sex.
No. 2563556
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>>2563552modern fujos in fandom speak in the same sexless, yet oversexualized way about their boys. most fandom talk is similar to picrel it's everywhere, not just himejoshi
No. 2563576
>>2563467nta but it was clear she was calling out "adult spaces" in fandoms meant for children. some of you are too
trigger happy at the mention of porn
No. 2563874
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>>2563592>>2563594Nona is referring to picrel. To clarify, ask-princess-sofia wasn’t the original artist but someone who reposted it. Looking her up, her account seems to have been removed by tumblr. She was into shipping Sofia with some ugly old man mentioned here
>>2563650 and the encanto girl with her uncle
No. 2563899
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>>2563874Im saying this as a 25 year old who still likes cartoons: is there an exact point in fandom history where adults started taking literal toddler shows with college degree levels of seriousness? Like why are shows like Bluey, the animated Hotel Transylvania show, and Sophia the First only allowed to be handled online by people with PhDs related to media?
No. 2563930
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>>2563921>wider range than children's mediaAyrt I'm not going to shit on anyone's interests because I have Don Bluth autism beyond belief but even with your theory I still can't grasp why shows specifically aimed at kindergarten aged children are magnets for pseudo intellectuals. I can't grasp why it is a very specific kind of person who does it, or why there's so many of them, because in my mind toddler shows shouldn't have a wide range that spans to 30+ year olds bringing up their CV in debates about them. I would very genuinely understand it if it was bored normie parents but it never is
No. 2564144
>>2563899Two motivations for this that I've seen (beyond basic bad taste/immaturity and being a creep), is there's a bit of a fascination towards looking back on kids content and then 'analysing' (read: re-framing) them from a more adult or 'mature' perspective– you used to see this a lot more as edgy analyses/theories designed to make a piece of media more deep or whoa (eg 'coma theories', where the show is ackshually taking place in the mind of a sickly/dying child, or 'x piece of media is totally taking place on post-apocalyptic Earth', and other 'x is really depicting y' meta etc), but now that a large crop of fandom active adults have been through tertiary education, they instead tend to force media to fit their academic wheelhouse rather than creepypasta-tier shit. I think the simpler the media, the easier it is to be retarded about it as an adult, because, if you're so inclined, you can fixate on, over think, and fill in the gaps far more freely than with anything more complicated or with the actual subject matter you want to talk about.
I also think part of the appeal
is that you're one of few adults in a sea of children enjoying the show– not for the usual creep reasons either, but because you'll have little to no competition in being a big name fan or having the most well-regarded and engaged with meta etc. Even if you're spouting absolute nonsense, a lot of kids will just be happy to see something they like being taken seriously, and will give such an adult a lot of positive engagement with their posts. Adult and teenage fans into more mature media/media for their age demographic are generally more experienced and confident in what they like, and so won't just fawn over any old post and may even react and interact negatively to it. People into little kid's shows, in my experience, tend to either be literal autists (good for them), or people who cannot handle being 'confronted' or 'challenged' by simple fiction, they absolutely can't handle actual people doing the same.
(of course there are also just freaks out there that get off on corrupting innocent things or things for innocent audiences)
No. 2564204
>>2563941>Gumball>Regular ShowAyrt I would go as far as to say that both of these examples, despite being kids cartoons, are of more substance and therefore more worthy of autistic over-analyzing than Sofia the First kek and yet you will never see people do this because that type of person aren't drawn to them (quite possibly for that reason)
>>2564137Ayrt but even in the case of adults who grew up watching Sofia the First or shows like that it still doesn't make that much sense to intellectualise it. It's not even like adults who are super into lego or Thomas the tank engine for nostalgia and just let it be what it is.
>>2564144>people who cannot handle being 'confronted' or 'challenged' by simple fictionI believe this personality trait shared by people who love toddler shows is the exact reason why they're also almost always echo chamber tranny faggots who sperg out when they're disagreed with. I will never forget the days when mild as milk takes on The Loud House were enough to send a lot of people into a chimpout so severe that it required days of clucking to eachother reaffirming that all their opinions are true and correct as therapy to get over the mere idea of an opposing opinion.
No. 2564279
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>>2564216Always seemed more like an edgy version of Jean to me tbh.
No. 2564316
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>>2564216>>2564279Coincidentally his hair also reminds me of this ugly guy in Levi’s earlier squad
No. 2564404
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why are zoomies like this
No. 2564633
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dandadan discourse is appearing on the tl again and i’m so tired of this shitty shounenslop series and its fans trying to convince people that it’s not fan service at all. how do even so-called “woke” girls and women defend this garbage and are fans of it?
>nnooo trust me bro female characters going through sexual situations drawn in suggestive angles explicitly is for the plot, it’s supposed to be shown in a negative light!!!!!
keklmao, not to mention momo is underage. not to mention the author is a moid. not to mention japan has always had a huge culture of sexualization of girls in both anime/manga and real life. not to mention 80% of moid anime fans are degenerate coomers who masturbate to hentai that looks exactly like this.
fans will try to say that dandadan is targeted for school boys aged 12-18, like that ever stopped adult moids from consuming it as well.
there are ways to effectively portray sexual abuse in a respectful and serious manner and dandadan is far from it. i trust it even less since the author is a moid, who probably gets off to drawing these. it’s so retarded seeing fans act like this is a good faith portrayal of a serious topic. i’ve seen coomers draw literal porn of this scene alone, it’s obvious that moids are supposed to get off to this scene but they can pretend that it’s a “sad” scene or some shit.
i haven’t read dandadan so i don’t know what other cringe sexual scenes there are that try to pass off as muh “serious and sad sexual assault scene that is totally not fan service for moids”, but i know the arc about that mother and her daughter, and how the mother sells her body to provide for them but her daughter is still kidnapped by yakuza and is never seen again, so she kills herself. yet another scene that i don’t trust moids writing about. wouldn’t be surprised at how many moids (including the author) got off to that whole story, about a woman being degraded sexually. the kidnapped daughter too, on 4chan /a/ i saw moids talking about how the daughter was definitely raped and killed by the gang members. yes, the place infested with lolipedos, so i can imagine they get off about joking what could’ve happened to the daughter.
but dandadan fans will swear that these cheap, corny, poorly written sexual plots are “deep” and totally serious
No. 2564638
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>>2564633you know you’re doing such a good and wonderful job at portraying SA scenes (and teenage girls in general) that are totally not fan service when some coomer account dedicated to posting fan service posts your series, kek
>b-b-but trust me bro, the pantyshots of an underage girl are necessary and integral to the plot, it’s not supposed to be sexy for moid viewers!!!! No. 2564681
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>>2564633>holding her legs open>standing in a way that looks like he's penetrating her>pointed phallic weapon angled perfectly as a stand in for his erection showing between her legsThat top panel is as rapey as it gets. The libfem anime enjoyed are retarded again, I fear
No. 2564687
>>2564681The most disgusting scene was in the hot springs with the five (our was it four?) literal
ugly bastards with one of them going "ooh we got ourselves a cutie" with one of them pinning her to the water. Made me drop it before I could even finish it.
No. 2564721
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>>2564404I hate this ugly nose crest trend so much, it doesn't even look good, why are zoomies like this?
No. 2564747
>>2564633kek one of my friends who's admittedly a bit retarded tried to get me into this show. i told her that i'm not going to watch some shit that includes sexual assault presented in a titillating way for moid gooners and she tried to backpedal and say that this was the only instance really and it's totally safe afterwards except for the hot springs scene
>>2564687 mentioned and i was like yeah, no, thanks. fortunately she gave up. i'm saying she's a bit retarded because she identifies as nonbinary but only remembers it when it's convenient. example: she thirsts for naoya from jjk who's a raging violent misogynist but she deludes herself into thinking he'd be different towards her because she sometimes remembers that she wants people to use they/them pronouns for her.
No. 2564788
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Well RIP to this little fucker in the avatar cycle, but at least people can finally admit that Korra was a shitty avatar and a bad show. The best thing Korra even did was bring back the air nomads, but what does it even matter if every bending race is on the verge of extinction at this point? Korra ended up shitting the bed so hard, any redeeming accomplishment got vaporized and now this new avatar is getting an even worse hand-me-down than Roku leaving Aang to deal with an imperial Fire Nation.
No. 2564855
>>2564633>>2564638>>2564681Is there any portrayal of good, non-fetishized sexual abuse in animanga? Specifically of female
victims, moids can't get raped so I don't care about that.
No. 2564881
>>2564855i fear that's impossible because men will goon to it. the only thing that would work is to have it happen behind closed doors and the
victim later says she was assaulted. but that will only make moids draw five gajillion
victim x fat ugly moid rapist djs.
No. 2564912
>>2564633I still don't get how anyone had the audacity of suggesting this series to JJK fans once the manga ended and excusing this kind of scenes with "it's supposed to be scary"
>fans will try to say that dandadan is targeted for school boys aged 12-18, like that ever stopped adult moids from consuming it as well.These fans are most likely pandemic weaboos who don't get that literally everyone read the WSJ. On top of that editors for this magazines are sexist enough that even Oda mentioned it to answer a fan letter. Of all people.
No. 2564913
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>>2564881Sad but true, it disgusts me how even in non-sexualized contexts moids will create hentai of female SA
victims. Mouthwashing, Deltarune, the list goes on. Meanwhile, when a male character gets raped you have handmaidens and TIFs like picrel who will treat him like an innocent wittle baby and you're a horrible person for creating content of it or making fun of it. I've even seen this in fandoms for BL games where the uke gets raped with the intent of arousing the consumer. I wish some women would wise the fuck up and realize men would never do the same for a female character.
No. 2564919
>>2564913This reminds me of that bitchfit they threw about that rapr
victim from Silent Hill being "too fat" in the remake. I think that summarizes how males approach video games and digest stories and meanings: they don't. They don't care about seeing any point in anything, they just want to play the game and if they see a female character, they just want to coom.
No. 2565036
>>2564980>For some reason a lot of westerners think kojima is a wholesome chungus japanese westaboo, but he's such a coomer.KEK exactly, male privilege at its finest. Isn't there a piss mechanic in Death Stranding as well? Oh, and he's a vtuberfag.
>They always give him the benefit of the doubt or make excuses when he inserts his fetishes, like with otacon and his step mom.Kojima has been an unapologetic femdomfag since 1, but I don't expect ironic fans who genuinely think Quiet is feminist to not realize that Kojima fetishizes the very thing they hate so much. With that said, he is unfathomably based for using a moid as a sad backstory rape character, it makes me wish less handmaidens were into the series.
No. 2565118
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>>2564788So what I’m getting from searching this image, that left side is leaked concept art and the right side is fanart? And picrel is the design closer to being finalized?
No. 2565419
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>>2564855A Life Turned Upside Down is good, although it's primarily about a dysfunctional family and the MC/author gets caught up in an
abusive relationship later. It's not a happy story because it's completely grounded in reality but it felt kind of cathartic to read imo
No. 2565517
>>2564855Haven't watched it since it came out, but from what I remember Wonder Egg Priority was pretty good. It's more about the aftermath, and I'm pretty sure everything was off screen.
Like I said tho, it's been a long time since I've watched it so I could be misremembering
No. 2565982
>>2565851>Very little basis in historical clothesMy theory
tinfoil is that they're doing this on purpose in an attempt to gain an overseas fanbase. ATLA wasn't very well-liked in Asian countries and TLOK only had a small following.
No. 2566113
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>>2566112Have you got something against Kung Fu Panda?!
No. 2566171
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Fanfictions can be good, but definitely not the vast majority of them because most "writers" can't be bothered to properly digest the world and characters of the source material. Most people just write based on what they WANT the characters to be, instead of writing their stories in a way that could actually pass as the media creator's "what if" for the plot. 90% of characters written in fanfiction aren't written like how they are, but as clones that might as well be skinwalking what the fic writer is thinking about. If you ship yourself or an OC with a real person, that's dehumanizing and cringe regarding the person you're writing about. 'x reader' fanfics exist because teenage millenials and zoomers got too lazy to just make a reasonable OC. 'x reader' fics are a contradictive genre because it's really written as "character x author" since there's no way for the author to predict and write how the entire audience would act as individuals in any scenario. The only aspect of it that's "x reader" is merely when readers find the fic and may enjoy it themselves. Combined with almost nobody on Ao3 having an education in writing that's beyond a high school level and 'x reader' fics really being just the author shipping themselves with a character and shoving their kinks into the sex sequences, 'x reader' fics have to be the most objectively difficult to write if you're making it a challenge to not let it be bad. You have to be a literary genius to somehow write a 'character x reader' fanfiction GOOD.
No. 2566239
>>2564633I really wanted to like the show/manga (read up to the current chapter) but yeah no these are obvious fanservice scenes that just make it worth dropping. I like the premise, I like Momo and Ken as protags and a couple, but the pantyshots and shit are so fucking annoying. Even when there's a character later in the manga who
was blackmailed into sending nudes to her gym teacher, who the group beat the shit out of it still feels exploitative and obvious (she has big oppai titties bc of COURSE).
No. 2566256
>>2566252Who cares if they were trying to do it or not? Fujos clearly don’t care
I’m just saying that the character designs are ugly and you’d have to draw them off model.
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>the token sex pest character is totally a trans girl
Kek
No. 2566339
>>2566252You really think fujos will stop at that? Transformers—a little boy franchise about
car robots has a dedicated yaoi fanbase, kek.
No. 2566528
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>>2566265Fujos liked One Punch Man, bald doesn't seem like it'd be that much of a filter.
No. 2566803
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>>2564633One interesting difference between male and female fans I have observed is that female fans have no problem with pretty and attractive female characters and protagonists. We just don't want them to be constantly sexualized. On the other hand, men will literally avoid series with pretty boy characters. Like Lies of P for instance, I have heard moids saying that they refuse to play this game because they don't like how the protag is a pretty twink.
No. 2566807
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>>2566803I knew a couple of guys that slapped a mask on him when they played, kind of funny considering how anal men get over women asking for the same option.
No. 2566838
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>>2566803>moids saying that they refuse to play this game because they don't like how the protag is a pretty twink.This is so dumb, that guy is on par with Link in terms of bishounen-ness and I don't see moids bitching about him (though I'm sure some have).
No. 2566845
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>>2566528Saitama is funny, and baldness is basically his only aesthetic flaw. Also, you sometimes see that weird shaved samurai haircut in historical BL, and that's not too far off from a character being bald. Also did you know that samurai cut their hair like that because it would make their helmets more comfortable to wear? I learned that recently and it makes so much sense lmao.
No. 2566876
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WHY THE FUCK ARE THESE PEOPLE EVEN JOINING FANSPACES WHAT THE FUCK?
No. 2566890
>>2566876I would guess the underlying frustration here is with the way fandoms can often crystallize around just one particular interpretation of the work and get further and further away from the source material, because people are consuming samey, tropey fanarts instead of going back to the original. Same problem you get with fanfiction and with fandom discussion in general, but less people talk about it with fanart.
Also
>>2566883 for sure.
No. 2566975
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>>2566965Maybe they're talking about the meme template type of fanart where people just draw their fandom characters over something else?
No. 2567142
>>2566803Tbh I think it just comes down to the type of moid (and, conversely, female) fan. Some skitz out over same-sex characters being attractive (often equating 'attractive' with automatic sexualisation, too), others get pissy if they're not attractive enough (with wild standards as to what that even means). Even with your Lies of P example, my male gamer friends just happily played the game and only commented on the MC's appearance in reference to him looking similar to an actor (but 'if he were actually pretty' kek). I also know female gamers who will not touch a game if the female character options
aren't feminine and attractive enough, and will bitch when we play a certain game that there's only one such lady to pick (the other female characters being too masculine, ugly, or practically dressed), and other women who complain bitterly about attractive female characters existing (regardless of how they're dressed or treated). It's not so cut and dry, I guess I'm trying to say.
Also, sometimes I think anons here just need to stop inflicting psychic damage on themselves by giving any of their time to the most bottom-of-the-barrel and brainrotted moids around, who usually aren't even part of a fandom, let alone people who were ever going to buy or play whatever game is in question because all they're really dedicated to is being a reactionary sped with delusional standards (every 'omg she's so ugly, needs ten pounds of makeup and plastic surgery STAT' post about a female character) that enjoys poking a fandom to get attention, usually from a female playerbase (moids who comment on LADS who neither play it nor really give a shit about it beyond stirring up and harassing the women who do).
No. 2568642
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>>2566807Moids have no reason or the right to complain about anything related to bishounens when they get shit like this handed to them on a silver plate and get all their perversions catered to
No. 2568647
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>>2566803God we need more pretty boys like pinocchio, he's adorable.
>>2566882Play the game before making retarded comments like this.
No. 2568686
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>>2568666To be fair ATLA has a lot of weird fetish shit involving their underage female characters. The reason why it doesnt have yaoi bait is because the creators and writers were mostly male, not because of something else.
No. 2568689
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>>2568686This one took me out when i saw it as a kid, disgusting
No. 2568792
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>>2568742Same episode did have a "fanservice" scene with Zuko but maybe anons should be the judge of this (Ngl 12 year old me was fascinated kek)
No. 2568797
>>2568749nta I think she just meant that it would be better if there was no fanservice in a:tla at all, a show for kids about kids/young teens, than trying to 'even the score' by adding in male fanservice to go alongside the female fanservice. Not some general statement for all of fiction kek
However, I gotta point out that the male characters
were depicted shirtless or even in a more generally fanservice-y way in the show, it was just very tame (the whole beach episode was kinda like that). Sure, it's not going to cut the mustard for adult women, but it was good enough for tween girls kek
No. 2569030
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Nobody cares about fat or ugly bara men, aside a small niche of "so unique" twitter/tumblr girls. I wish fandom spaces would stop forcing this on otome games because that detracts the main consumer and they flop.
https://www.reddit.com/r/GachaHusbandos/comments/1lb3ui1/husbando_gachas_are_a_lost_cause_from_a_chinese/?sort=confidence No. 2569116
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>>2569030A hill I will die on is that women who are into bara men are just regular animefags who started with anime not set in a school. I've seen plenty of husbandofags into Tokita Ohma and Toji (or whoever the fat tit guy who gets drawn with a dog muzzle all the time is)
No. 2569315
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>>2569030Gay dudes already have more than a few gay games, just play Gyee or Afterschool Sunmoner.
No. 2569347
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>both for my safety, and the safety of those who have shared their experiences and history with this topic
People calling you a moron on the internet doesn't mean they're going to beat your face in in the parking lot of a mcdonalds kek.
I just don't get these people who consume huge amounts of this sort of culture including actively trying to buy figures of it but then sperg constantly about how it's bad, then why the fuck are you engaging with it so hard?
No. 2569352
>>2569346I think stuff like golden kamuy falls under "light bara"
It's still extremely appealing to fujos but it's muscular enough to where bara fans could also enjoy it.
No. 2569515
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>>2569143Nta but it's called The Hate Trap
No. 2569548
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>>2567142> I also know female gamers who will not touch a game if the female character options aren't feminine and attractive enough, and will bitch when we play a certain game that there's only one such lady to pick (the other female characters being too masculine, ugly, or practically dressed)they exist? Insane, wouldn't they be happier in the kitchen (if they're gonna be that sexist)?
No. 2569576
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>>2569572>characters like Tokita Ohma and Toji are not bara at allHow is this not bara?
No. 2569614
File: 1750285901731.png (1.36 MB, 1000x970, Luther.png)
>>2569572Bara, like anything else, has variety too. There's plenty of overlap where a character will be popular with both groups and have fanart that frankly, are hard to tell apart.
Pic related isn't overtly muscly, isn't fat, no beard, but it is bara from
>>2569315 No. 2569627
>>2569576because of his face. bara-style doesn’t just mean muscular. he doesn’t have a blockhead like in
>>2569315 he literally looks just like any other manhwa ikemen
>>2569614true, there will always be a variety but there is a specific “bara-style” that comes to mind when people imagine it which is what I’m referring to. just like how “anime-style” exists even though anime can actually have a variety of styles.
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>>2569627>because of his faceYou can have bara characters that don't have that type of face, it's associated with the art style yeah but it's not a requirement.
No. 2569647
>>2566949you know how nona, they managed to link the fantasy of a woman with a penis or a man with a vagina to the realities of tims and tifs. now they can claim their blatant fetish is actually just trans rep or they, as heckin vulnerable trans folx, exploring their sexuality. and yes you can totally not be into it but you have to constantly re-examine your biases and maybe idk if you mention not being into it you're probably,,,,, transphobic or terfy just a little bit,,,,
No. 2569962
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>>2569721>>2569548I don't mind if somebody does it in their own game but I would never pay for an indie game where the characters look like tumblrite creations. If I saw an ugly looking game I wouldn't buy it. The MC from the new Fable game looks fine fwiw
No. 2570009
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progressives are the most racist people you will ever meet. they will asign races to fictional characters based merely in expressions they made.
racial theory for them is a normal thing. and they dare to lecture the rest of the world in racial matters. Pathetic.
No. 2570139
>>2569347>the uncomfortable irony that many girls who grew up with these images as major parts of their childhood were unaware of that fact. The offshoot subculture of RP and fanfictionthat surrounded these images/the young girls who USED them has always been beautiful to me
She confesses to it here. It’s a corruption/contamination fetish. She is titillated by the idea of underaged girls unknowingly interfacing with men’s sexual filth. Same way moids get off to cumming in unsuspecting women’s food, or rubbing their dicks on her personal items knowing she will use them afterwards. They’re getting off to covertly contaminating them while the girls innocently and unsuspectingly indulge.
No. 2570162
>>2570146NTA but if you mean:
>that surrounded these images/the young girls who USED them has always been beautiful to meIt’s part of the quote, anon just fucked up the greentext.
No. 2570165
>>2569548AYRT they're actually all very normal women who are independent and happy being that way (some of them are into the girlboss nonsense and ascribe to Feminism Lite, where only the appealing/empowering platitudes exist), their preferred form of escapism just seems to
exclusively be to have a pretty/hot/fashionable/flirty/attractive female character to embody. I'm not even knocking those things, it's just a little disheartening to hear them criticise female characters that
don't embody them (or, at least don't in the most obvious way possible to them), especially when the men I play the same games with don't do that.
Also, these all are actual women I know and hang out with irl, not secret moids/troons or whatever. Doesn't matter if we're playing a hero shooter or a ttrpg, they always interact with female characters the same way (they even get miffed with me if my dnd character isn't a pretty elf or whatever like theirs is kek, and question why I even draw women who aren't 'pretty'). They are critical of male characters too btw, it's just not the same kinda sting to hear that as 'this woman doesn't fit in the box of acceptability I have for women in my head, so she is bad and unwanted'. Thankfully this is all in regards to fiction though, and usually not directed towards NPCs either, just PCs and protagonists.
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No. 2570245
>>2570181I just like interesting designs tbh, don't care if they're pretty or average or uggo kek. I guess I focus on other design elements (and what they say about the character and their role in the story/mechanics) in general and tend to view almost all characters in a platonic light– waifu and husbando enjoyers are alien to me lol (no disrespect to them, they seem to be having fun). So no, not attracted to them.
I don't get those reactions to butch designs either, especially when they can't be dubbed a case of 'draw a man, call it a woman', because all it does is further emphasise that what women can be and look like fits into a very narrow bracket and that their greatest value is sexual attractiveness. I'm not interested in seeing that pushed for fiction or real life, which fiction (and discussions surrounding it) can be the training wheels for.
No. 2570339
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FNAF is like Yume Nikki in that you have to come up with your own conclusion if you want any answer for what the hell is going on. The difference is that you have to make your own interpretation for Yume Nikki because Kikiyama never wanted it to have a crystallized meaning. It's a weird game and whether it's even supposed to mean anything is up to the individual. Scott thought he could have something going with there being five murdered kids who possess animatronics with a killer running around and eventually getting murked by a bunny suit. But he gradually started adding more details when he noticed his game getting popular, realized that lore-baiting was a solid way to hook in viewers, threw in random details that still has fans scratching their heads, and retcons that don't even make any sense when you look at what the games tell us before Sister Location. Scott doesn't really know what he's doing. He lost his own plot years ago, which made it into one of the most horribly written franchises of all time. That's the hard pill to swallow for FNAFags.
No. 2570556
>>2570120Yes.
>>2570139Ehhhh, I don't know if I think it's a full on fetish thing to me, I think she's just an Addy skinwalker who wants to consoom coom media but also get to waggle her finger at anyone doing it in a way that she doesn't like.
No. 2570661
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>>2569572>bishi face = no baraOkay, so if we remove bishi face and go with a big square head, are we going to pretend there aren't tons of women who are into Guts from Beserk? Bishi face or not, women don't strictly prefer the typical anime boy body type. Nobody out here is simping for fatties but to say no women are into bara like
>>2569030 is just untrue and is usually indicative of someone who was watching school anime when they first started being a weeaboo. The point being made was that women aren't automatically into teenage looking mfers
No. 2570697
>>2570661>are we going to pretend there aren't tons of women who are into Guts from Beserk?Not really related but I'm
convinced from the contents of Berserk that Miura was a barely closeted bifag kek. I'm not saying this in a "Berserk is queer media!" Twitter way but in a "I don't think those scenes were
just for shock value" way kek
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>>2562762That's not supposed to be a moan it's the sound you make when you're trying to keep your mouth shut to hold off on voicing your vulgar thoughts
>>2562894Okay but it actually does bother me when I'm reading yaoi and they don't at least ask if the bottom is clean before going at it kek
>>2563446Himejoshis constantly harrass straight women into pretending to like yuri by threatening them with misogny accusations then start seething when this inevitably happens kekkkk sorry but you reap what you sow
>>2563545I can tell you're young because top vs bottom discourse has never been less prominent than it is now, kick back and thank fuck you weren't around just a decade ago
>>2564404Hate that stupid face mark trend
>>2566807Kekkk just imagine… the hypocritical 'misogyny' comments would roll in faster than you could blink
>>2569030But these same retards clap like seals for characters like picrel because 'muh body diversity' AKA even bigger tits
No. 2570717
>>2570702I don't think he's completely unattracted to women (too much moidish grossness to be a coincidence) but it sure is weird how
Guts AND Griffith were both raped by ugly bastards and have a one-sided abusive relationship kek>>2570710Could be, but most of those straight autopedos want to be molested by an ara ara onee-san, not an ugly old moid who is drawn in great detail. Either way, the fagginess in the source material is funny.
No. 2570819
>>2570797You understand the contradiction of saying women are "overwhelmingly" into one thing and then saying "I don't care what the average normal woman is into", right?
Though the whole conversation is just another dumb cycle anyway.
No. 2570866
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>>2570009They literally do equate real-world races to fictional ones, all while defending pedoshit if not posting about how they want to fuck the child characters themselves
No. 2570867
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>>2570866Picrel. Least pedophile botw/totk fan
No. 2571276
>>2571098He's voiced by a black kid, so that makes sense.
>>2570872It's easy to forget that Darwin is a fish and not just Gumball's adopted brother, because for a second I was like
>Why did they make him a dog?>Oh right, he's a fish who sleeps in a bowl on Gumball's nightstand, he just talks and goes to school for some reasonKid shows are weird
No. 2571376
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>>2571304Eve and the game itself seems to lack a personality to me which makes it unappealing. Maybe I live under a rock but the only thing I knew about this game is the fact that the devs wanted an attractive female protagonist and this image from an older ugly character design thread.
No. 2571409
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>>2570661Fucking Baki has a bishie face but he's still bara as hell kek. Baki the Grappler is about as close to bara as a manga can reasonably get without literally showing the characters' cocks.
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>>2571388You need to understand moid vision
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>>2571304>>2571381I looked at more outfits and there are a few that are pretty cute and surprisingly some that cover her body completely. But most are bodysuits and bodycon clothes. Many fetish-y, ugly, or weird looking. The "dress-up" aspect falls flat when the designs aren't particularly stylish.
https://gamerant.com/stellar-blade-all-outfits-costumes-nano-suits-eve-lily-adam-drone/ No. 2571452
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>>2570661>>2569666>>2569633>>2569627>>2569523I made a chart. It only uses characters from non-BL IPs for the sake of impartiality. Basically, you have ikemen in the middle, which is just a hot guy who isn't bara or bishounen. Make the character less muscular, younger, or more androgynous, and you end up with a bishie, but if the character is more muscular, masculine, or hairy, he becomes more bara-like. My examples probably weren't perfect, they're just sort of the first characters I thought of.
No. 2571453
>>2571376I don't like the majority of her outfits, they're just way too busy. The red dress and white dress in
>>2571418 are nice though. I'm legit surprised at how ugly so many of her outfits are. It's only been out on PC for a week or two, maybe some day modders will make more pretty outfits for her. It's a shame there aren't more character action games like that where you can play as a female character.
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>>2570009This isn't racist KEK. Retarded? Yeah, definitely, but some of you are thinking too hard about it. I don't think some twitter user thinking cartoon animals would be minorities if they were human is that bad.
No. 2571525
>>2571481Well bara is also for faggots kek, but faggots that actually acknowledge that they like men. Trapshit is for trannies, porn addicts, and faggots in denial.
>>2571476>>2571469I'm not putting children and trannyslop in my chart. Go pound sand
No. 2571552
>>2570661I never said that women don’t have different tastes I was only disagreeing on some anons definition of “bara-style”
>>2571409he’s really not
No. 2571562
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>>2570424Scott doesn't care tbh, he just wanted money because that was his main goal, the franchise should have been handed to someone who has experience working on survival horror games but steel wool ended up with it ofc, and now we have another poppy playtime in our hands. They say it has to do with it becoming a franchise beloved by children? But they could have went the route of pg stuff for kids like Paranorman or Addams Family with mild violence that is acceptable for someone young, the new game doesn't even look like fnaf to me
No. 2571627
>>2571567This game has them.
>>2569315Also furries, which ig is what would be beyond bara? Gay dudes get away with a lot of wacky shit on Google play unlike other particular games.
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>>2570009I go by the rule of thumb I had since I was a kid. Unless a character's race is clearly established, nonhuman characters would be the race and ethnicity of their voice actors IF they were drawn as people. But I make an exception for Darwin because having his human form be a black kid would be extremely awkward considering he was bought and sold from a black alley salesman.
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Give me a fucking break.
No. 2572616
>>2571852I wouldn’t really take that episode as a “canon humanization”. the dad is way fatter than that like
>>2571433 said. there is an episode at the end that humanizes some of the kids at school but I still feel like gijinka artists should have full reign/creativity because policing gijinkas either way is just retarded and annoying.
No. 2572966
>>2572791I mean, people used to say that all the time with male slash ships, so I guess it's just a repeat of that but with the thing that's more 'in' with their online circles or whatever. The whole 'love triangle but what if the non-mc characters kissed instead' isn't new (hell I remember seeing it for
Twilight back in the day). It is an annoying and cheap response for easy likes that really just highlights dissatisfaction with a piece of media/its core tropes and an unwillingness to stray from what's popular or easy to consume and find something that actually suits your tastes.
No. 2572990
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I just want retards like this to fuck off out of fandoms already but the amount of people enabling them is insane (and the artist turned them both into tims)
No. 2573051
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>>2572990It really feels like this
No. 2573082
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>>2572791That's what I don't like about shipping. Shippers are generally stupid. Most of them don't care if the ship makes sense. They're just horny dumbasses who think two characters who would most definitely not have chemistry somehow would just because their brain thinks it's "aesthetic" or whatever. They can't even write the ship in a setting or a plot divergence where it can make sense. They mostly just draw shitty memes and art for it and when they do try to write it, it sucks because fanfiction is generally badly written. The only time I will take a fanon ship over a canon ship is if the source material fumbled so bad that its canon ship doesn't obey its own writing, but that's rare. Yeah sure fans can ship because it's fandom and "muh creativity" but it's still a concept that runs generally unintellectual when you look at what the source tells us about the characters vs. what faggots THINK they got right about the material. This goes for heterofags, yaoifags, and yurifags. Most ships are stupid, and the worst part about shipwars is their implication that fandoms have to revolve around such stupid takes of who belongs with what when there is so much more you can do in a fandom. I think that's what I hate the most about shippers. They devolve fandom to their pornrot and braindead humor that characters with absolutely zero romantic chemistry would and should totally fuck and get married because "I don't care! Asuka would totally fuck Rei even though Asuka would never touch a woman like that in her life! Guts would totally be a bottom for Griffith, a man he canonically doesn't fuck with!". Dumb ships imply that the person doesn't understand character dynamics enough, which strikes me as a person who doesn't keep up with what the source material is actually telling them. This is a branch in mischaracterization, and people who don't care to get the characterization right every time they interact with the source material do not rub me as real fans.
No. 2573474
>>2573082There's definitely people who get way too extreme about it, but for most people, fandom is like playing with dolls. They take characters they like and put them in situations that canon doesn't explore, and shipping is just one of many ways to do that. What would the point of fandom be if people just focused on the same things that canon already tells us about?
Putting two characters together doesn't instantly make them ''ooc'', it just makes things not line up with canon anymore, and that's fine, as long as people are aware of it. The one thing that I will say is annoying is when people make this about characters' ''sexualities'', which is not the same as pairing two random characters together. I mostly enjoy m/m and f/f ships, but I don't really insist on sexuality headcanons that line up with my ships. It's just for fun, and in a lot of cases I know it's not what would happen in canon, but in the end it doesn't really affect my enjoyment of it.
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>>2533085Just popping in to say that the K-pop Demon film is everything I hoped for (won’t spoil) (hope nonas also love it!)
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Maybe I’m just being grouchy because I truly do not mind yuri shippers but why do they talk like this when all 3 members spent the whole film drooling over the boyband, they could not have been made more aggressively heterosexual if the film crew tried
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>>2573747Another one: this is literally a scene where they’re watching one of the guys’ shirt pop off to reveal his shiny abs before they start screaming with horny glee, I don’t get what planet these people are on
No. 2573813
>>2573481It's amazing and I love it. You get friendship AND hot guys
>>2573798Shipper can ship whatever they want and whatever but I just want to see actual good straight romance plotlines AND female characters being good characters with the power of female friendship. Fuck your yuri shit
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>>2573798Right? Like
>>2573786 says, it just reads like a stubborn response to the complete absence of yuri undertones rather than a genuinely felt tweet. Crucially, these are the same people who got prematurely angry during the trailer-drop that “straggots” would ignore the female characterisation in favour of the males, but as it turns out it’s been the Juni x Rumi shippers creating the best content of Rumi while the former makes empty cope tweets
No. 2573919
>>2573813>>2573891Aren't you just acting needlessly pressed over the fact that people don't like your little straight ship? I do agree that they're dumb for even engaging in, as you said, aggressively heterosexual media and that they should have higher standards instead of relying on crumbs and delusions for their f/f needs, but expressing disappontment over yet another series shoving in unneeded straight romance is perfectly
valid. Why are you assuming that anyone who doesn't want to see hetshit (or just men in general) is actually a tranny? You've been sperging out over ''shippers'' but I think you just have a problem with lesbians, or women that just have 0 interest in men, which is unfathomable to you.
No. 2574046
>>2573919found the yurifag. LMAO at "unnecessary." What makes het romance necessary in your oh-so-enlightened opinion then? Isn't that the exact argument they make against gay stuff? Just say you hate het and move on.
Maybe I want to see good friendship AND good romance coexist? It's people like you who thinks it's need to be either/or.
No. 2574047
>>2573481I'm looking forward to watching it tonight
even though only the guy with the bangs is cute and the rest are uggos.
No. 2574048
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Why is people's first reaction to a relatively feminine looking man is to want to impregnate him? Fags and porn brained women alike say this.
Is the theory that men see feminine men as replacement and superior women true?
No. 2574059
>>2574051You say that but this is the kind of shit that leads to trans shit and giving characters mastectomy scars. Especially if you see an attractive man and think "that's basically a woman"
People don't think this about baras.
No. 2574136
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How do you navigate wider fandom as a TERF/anti-troon/gender critical woman? Are you just totally crypto? Have you given up on participating?
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>>2573919> your little straight ship?It’s canon. They sing a love song, blush at each other, go on a date, etc. all of which is part of her story. Calling her a lesbian just to ship her with the other band members ignores her canon characterisation in favour of making her a toy to play with for HCs.
> expressing disappontment over yet another series shoving in unneeded straight romance is perfectly valid.Thinking that something is “unneeded” just because it’s designed for a female audience who happens not to include you is incredibly childish. I thought you guys were all about female empowerment and women-centric stores? This film is just that, but here you are whining regardless because it was never about feminism for you.
> I think you just have a problem with lesbians, or women that just have 0 interest in menAs I stated, yuri is fine. But himejoshis are not a special class above being called out for hypocrisy, not when they spent a month building up to the film daring anyone not to appreciate the female characterisation, only to ignore it themselves because it didn’t have the romantic lesbian undertones THEY wanted. This being despite the film having some of the most fun female characterisation I’ve seen in animation in a while backed by an artist team led by majority non-TIF/TIM women. But who cares about any of that, “because it’s not yuri” right?
No. 2574275
>>2574215>It's no accident that in the fujo infights, nearly everyone on the pro-fujo side has a yaoi fetish and everyone on the anti-fujo side does not.I don't know what you're expecting, do you think people who don't care would have an investment in arguing about homosex here if all places?
Though, there are definitely times where people say "I don't read yaoi, but I think this is stupid" "I read yaoi, but I think this is a point" "I read yuri, het, and yaoi and I think this."
Sure, they could be lying, but that's just more of a point to not take those dumb fights as anything serious.
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>>2574271This again. They literally state in the film that the flaws each band member are hiding (beyond the literal monster thing) are their fears, insecurities, personality flaws and lack of sense of belonging. Word for word! But let’s ignore the film’s focus on female character development to go on a far-left tangent so we can justify how these complex (straight) women are 100% actually in love with each other AKA erase female characterisation to focus on shipping HCs instead AKA the exact thing yuri fans have been accusing other women of “internalised misogyny” over non-stop
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>>2574284Like, how much more obvious could it be that these people simply do not care about female characters unless they can ship them together? And again, this would be perfectly fine (because delusional shipping fun is not illegal) if these weren’t the same people constantly harassing other women by accusing them of doing exactly that.
No. 2574288
>>2574048It's safe horny bullshit. It's more acceptable to joke about getting a man pregnant than it is to express that you want to fuck him in a more selfish or aggressive way.
>>2574106Hate this shit.
No. 2574302
>>2574136I've given up. I use social media and don't hide I'm a
terf but I made sure early on I wouldn't have too many followers to avoid issues.
No. 2574341
Am I the only one who thinks this insistence on lesbianism for xyz fictional characters is… regressive? Misogynistic? Idk. It feels similar to troonshit in a very specific way. Like, you have to fit an lgbt stereotype to be of good moral character. I’m not sure if I’m explaining myself correctly.
Most young women are heterosexual. I think they should be allowed to have favorable representation. But all of these fandom activists insist that if a woman is likable and around other likable women, they have to be gay. Otherwise, there is something “wrong”. Insert endless whining and callout posts about it.
I don’t want to sound like “heterosexuals r opressed boohoo” but I don’t think this sends a good message to young girls. It’s just reinforces toxic heteronormative stereotypes. You can’t be likable and heterosexual. There’s no such thing as moral heterosexuality.
It would be far better for young women if they saw good examples of female characters/ heterosexuality portrayed in media.
Feels like we went from “shit female representation in shit het relationships to” “good female representation, no heterosexuality permitted”.
I’d really like to see better het female representation. As the largest demographic of women, obv it’s going to be far more helpful.
I know heterosexuality irl is fucked, because of moids, but it would be a good idea to show women via example what it could look like ideally. Raise their expectations, encourage them not to settle.
I know I’m onto something when every rare het parting with a good dynamic are called “lesbians”, every decent het male character is called “babygirl”, “wife”, etc.
No. 2574343
>>2574284At this point I’m convinced women are so conditioned to accept misogyny as the norm that they interpret misogynistic oppression as queer oppression. They either don’t process misogyny as the issue, or are too afraid to point it out, and hide behind more “safe” grievance politics. The only
valid way to point out the issues with a typical female upbringing is to present it as gayshit. They just reassign misogynistic oppression to qweer opression.
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>>2572990What's with trannies and queerios inserting cocks in contexts devoid of it?
No. 2574350
>>2574341It's a trend and part of the broader movement of making homosexuality (sorry, "queerness") more cool and desirable than being straight and not being trans.
Liking hetshipping is boring, maybe even homophobic. Yaoi is boring now, plus if you like it you just hate female characters. That just leaves us with yuri, which is subversive and more progressive. It's all virtue signaling.
I love femslash but I wish all those people would drop it and move on to the next big thing, they're so annoying. Just as I wish "queers" would stop fetishizing homosexuality and leave lesbians alone.
No. 2574513
>>2574341No, I get what you mean
nonnie, it definitely feels misogynistic in some way to erase the fact that the vast majority of women are attracted to men. I think part of it is that moids are uncomfortable when straight/bi women sexualize men or male characters, they don't like hearing about it so they make every female character a heckin' wholesome progressive lesbian instead. The fact that they all fetishize lesbians helps, of course.
No. 2574514
>>2574341Not at all. I think the same way.
the qweers roll their eyes at "good het representation" but they forget that thousands of years of misogyny exists and that WE DON'T ACTUALLY HAVE THAT. And just because moids suck IRL doesn't mean they have to suck in fiction. 2D is proof that men as a concept aren't inherently bad.
So true about the "babygirl" part. Why the fuck do they do that?
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>>2574136I state in my bio that my blog is politics-free and just focused on fandom and then never acknowledge anything gender-related. I'm surprised more people don't do this. Nobody has ever accused me of being a
terf and I'm too old to care about potential callout posts
>>2574341There's nothing wrong with yurishipping for fun, but there's 100% a mentality in terminally online fandoms that het is bad and boring. It reminds me of "wahhh fujoshis are fetishizing gay men but if you are one yourself that's so
valid and cool". The end result is lots of fandom women pretending to be bisexual / lesbian or being socially conditioned to troon out because they like men "in a gay way". I think it's because teenagers see being gay as a fandom and want to be understood and be special and unique and different from other people in a meaningful way.
Most people are het and end up with the opposite sex. It's not evil or boring or shameful to be a woman attracted to men and I wish super online teenage girls would know that. I also don't think heterosexuals are oppressed. It feels more centered around misogyny and shame.
No. 2574753
>>2574657> I think it's because teenagers see being gay as a fandomI think this isn't talked about enough, but yep, the terminaly online LGBT/spicy straight and "queers" have an extremely fandom-like view of gayness and "queerness", and a lot of them might as well be doing RP. The obsession with colecting hyperspecific labels is like a teenager making a Mary Sue OC that is a half vampire quarter kitsune eight mermaid space princess with an angel wing+demon wing combo and heterochromia and a sharingan. The obsession with flags (especially the pinterest aesthetic colour palette ass ones) is also extremely fandom-y (ironically, I'd compare this to millenials taking a pottermore quizz and then obsessing over hufflepuff or whatever memorabilia), and their focus on "discoving your identity" being so separate from any irl importance/being such a self made issue is very roleplay-like.
I don't think it's surprising that fandoms in general have become infested with these types.
>>2574671I'm assuming you're talking of mostly jp VNs? I'm very new to VNs but I do get the impression of OEVN otome being prime aiden grounds. I assume your typical terminaly online aiden has a fried attention span and gets automatically filtered by such a text heavy medium unless it's written in pure tumblr theather kid style with constant online lingo/memes.
No. 2574865
>>2574527I don't know about BL but otome attracts none of those people. especially since they're the type who complain about the problematique LI's and age gaps an incest. As for the male oriented VN's such as for the Nasuverse, they don't have trannies as tumblrites to that extent either, probably because of the "iT'S a porN gAme!" reputation.
>>2574562Depends what games you play. For instance, the Nasuverse has the best female characters in male oriented animeshit ever. It's why I don't read shounenslop anymore.
>>2574753This is the problem inherent to creating a culture around sexuality. Also yes the OELVN's are for the aidens and furries, JP is where it's at.
>>2574836I am in the Fate fandom and it really depends what part of the internet you're on. Of course if you go to Tumblr you'll find aidens. But the very core of Fate isn't something that attracts their ilk in large numbers.
No. 2575023
>>2574513Correct me if i'm wrong but don't most of the ones shaming women for being het and complaining about hetshit are actual women? I would say i can tell most of the time when it's a tim doing it, but judging from the screenshots posted it looks like it's actual women. But the thing is, most women are not lesbian or even bisexual, they are extremely straight. What's the profile of the average female hime? Age, type of content they engage with related and unrelated to fandom, what type of queerio they identify as, etc.
>>2574561>>2574657>>2574341Kind of off topic, but what do you think about women having relationships with men irl? I think a lot of this hime yuri sperging is just women trying to get away from misogyny. Why do women need "good" het representation? With what end goal?
No. 2575073
>>2574046>What makes het romance necessary in your oh-so-enlightened opinion then?Nothing, it's never necessary. But to answer a bit more seriously, I can stomach it when 1) the female lead has a proper personality, backstory and motivations not tied to her relationship with a man and 2) there's a main plot line unrelated to romance.
>Just say you hate het and move on.I never denied that, though? I'll automatically skip any piece of media that gets marketed in a way that makes it clear that hetero romance is a big focus. And so I end up feeling disappointed when a series could otherwise be good, but they decide to randomly add romance that nobody (besides you, apparently) asked for. I don't cope with headcanon ships in that case though, I simply move on to a series actually worth my time.
>>2574271>It’s canon. They sing a love song, blush at each other, go on a date, etc. all of which is part of her story. That doesn't help your case at all, that means the movie did exactly what I described - shoved in an unnecessary hetero romance.
>I thought you guys were all about female empowerment and women-centric stores? This film is just that, but here you are whining regardless because it was never about feminism for you.So are you saying feminism is when women are allowed to express interest in.. men!? Listen to yourself. I think the movie should've just advertised itself as a straight romance in the first place instead of seemingly baiting people into thinking it would be something more than that. There's a lot of media for you oh-so-opressed straight women, I don't know why you're crying so much over this one movie being criticized.
>because it didn’t have the romantic lesbian undertones THEY wantedNo, it's because it had men as romantic love interests taking up the focus. I don't think people would've complained if there was 0 romance at all instead.
No. 2575233
>>2575073You have a big prejudice against straight romance being bad for female characters that you're taking for granted everyone else also assumes. Rumi's motivations aren't tied to a man, and even if they are that wouldn't make her a bad character.
Why is romance specifically unnecessary as opposed to any other trope? I know you said that you don't like romance at all, but that's my point. Literally just say that instead of hiding behind words like "unnecessary."
No. 2575282
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fandom brainrot(and yaoi) and it's consequences
No. 2575299
>>2575282>re butoretrasada and gendie rotted by social media
they're all so obnoxious they can't even pretend not being massively dick obsessed
No. 2575310
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>>2575292>>2575303of course attractive men exist, but male beauty is different from female beauty, and we see with troons that even so-called feminine men who transition look ugly and masculine when then try to pretend to be women, and very butch and masculine women who transition are seen as small and feminine when then try to pretend to be men.
picrel is a lesbian woman who posed as a man for over a year, despite being 5'10", wearing lifts and being a butch, she was constantly called "faggot" on the street, was seen as very feminine and most people assumed she was a gay man
No. 2575314
>>2575023I’m heterosexual and horny and aside from consuming art for its own sake, I like the escapism aspect when it comes to romance. I want to masturbate to 2d males who are not only hot, but are proven likable in a heterosexual dynamic. It’s really not that complicated.
I shouldn’t feel like I need to make a case for myself, it should just be normal. Het women are probably the largest demographic on earth so why are so many people incredulous? And yes I’m including other women (
victims of internalized misogyny and coping with lgbt politics/pickmeism)
No. 2575338
>>2575310All i got from your picrel is that maleness is just ugly. That's why masculinity ideals are so ugly, it's like
>>2575093 said, they just like ugly shit and whenever they see something beautiful they have to destroy it because that's all they know how to do and that's what they are. Even their ideal aesthetics for women are just ugly. They're either troonish like the makeup republican women wear, or inbred and unhealthy looking like the female faces you see on ai slop that are supposed resemble a barely pubescent girl. Now, i'm not calling teenage girls inbred, but teenagers are kind of ugly and doughy (sorry) and you shouldn't be attracted to someone that looks like they would die in childbirth or give you unhealthy offspring, so with scrote's grotesque sense of aesthetics you get these inbred ai slop "girls" that god knows what age they're supposed to be.
No. 2575450
>>2575325Please don’t act like heterosexual woman have it good just for getting thrown some crumbs.
I do not count moid pandering hetshit when I talk about good representation. My main contention is misogyny, and how women (of all sexualities) are sidelined if not outright treated like crap.
What makes it especially irksome is that hetero women are the majority, yet decent representation is virtually nonexistent outside of some peanuts thrown here and there. This is being
treated like a minority, this is just misogyny. I’m tired of the world being so moidcentric that being oppositional and disrespectful to women comes before everything. Het women aren’t spared from feeling isolated just because most moids are heterosexual too.
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>>2575531Gerard way does not look like a woman kek, I think you were just fooled because those images are for ants. Also Jfc, talk about an example of men aging like milk. Dude looks like if Josh Moon and the Geico Caveman had a buttbaby together.
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>>2575541Did he wear coloured contacts when he was in that terrible band? Or did his eyes change to brown bc he is so unhealthy now
No. 2575598
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>>2575591I used to say pete wentz looks like me in this picrel and I'm a woman. Idk if it is actually true tho
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they hated jesus because he told them the truth
No. 2575655
You anons are never getting the het representation you want because it's a problem beyond fandom. Heterosexuality is the default, and heterosexual sex is depicted as something a man takes away from a woman or something done to a woman. There is no female sexuality, women have no real power or are equal to men in the bedroom. It doesn't matter what a woman has achieved or created, a woman having sex with a man makes her devoid of any redeeming quality and even her humanity altogether. When a woman agrees to have sex with a man, because that means she agrees to be seen and used as meat, it's a funeral to her dignity, integrity, worth and fragile state as a human being and a celebration for the patriarchy. This is how you end up with rape fetishes so they don't have to bear responsability, trad leaning pickmes that are transparent about how sex is a service that they must provide, pickmes who are hypersexual to "gain control back", polilez and women who just give up and end up trooning out because being a woman is too exhausting. And i know you will say "but it's fiction it can be anything you want" and i agree, but very few people think like us even if they swear they don't, so we never get the media we want. I guess it begs the question, who controls the culture? The people behind the media or the people watching it?
No. 2575661
>>2575655I have since made this realisation myself as to why het ships are always portrayed with this
abusive sleazy cheating manwhore scum portrayal of the moid even if the character is a literal knight in shining armour in canon but it pisses me off no less. It just makes me think normies truly are npcs who can’t think outside of the misogynistic slop they were taught
No. 2575791
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I was scrolling through the tag of a fotm yaoi ship and came across this. Who is the target audience here? It is absolutely half-assed and lazy, she just put on a lingerie and called it a day. I seriously doubt moids are checking yaoi tags. Are women just pretending to like it? The tag is already filled with vomit inducing cuntboy shit, and giving attention to stuff like picrel makes the tag even more unbrowsable.
No. 2575834
>>2575798Based nonna. Moids only exist to be slaves of their own women and I wish more het fiction would be like that.
>>2575791Seeing that ship makes me happy I'm on off-trend yaoi ships. The gendie shit is still there unfortunately but the impact is lesser.
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Kim there's people that are dying
No. 2575875
>>2575706>If it's fiction and fandoms who gives a fuck how it is irl.>you're talking about how het relationships are irl as if everyone is going to write an autobiography.I literally mentioned this in my post if you actually bothered to read it. And quite frankly, they don't write an exact autobiography but you can tell what they think women and men as individuals and heterosexual dynamics are supposed to be like because that's the culture around them, otherwise you wouldn't have the same retardation stemming from ancient misogynistic ideas you see posted in this thread
>>2575769>What do you even want then? The only relationships being same sex? More femdom shit.What does this even have to do with my post? I tried to indentify the problems behind why women don't have "good" heterosexual representation, not that they should give up on it
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No. 2575882
>>2575798>>2575769Sure but I don't think an increase in femdom would solve the fundamental problem
>>2575655 described, where most cultures rob women of their sexual agency and re-frame sex as men "taking" a womans purity and owning a piece of her. This problem will persist so long as the concept of virginity exists and sexual encounters are characterized as "conquests" by men.
No. 2575886
>>2575880Plant makes a very good point. Adults always memeing and implying that kids media isn't truly for kids is a way for them to justify occupying child media as an audience. Like how bronies will try to tell you that MLP is the one of the most mature and groundbreaking shows of all time to justify occupying the fanbase as
grown men.
No. 2575891
>>2575880It genuinely
is for little girls. That doesn't mean others aren't allowed to watch it, but they're not the people the show is designed to appeal to, and should not expect that the writers cater to them. It's a cartoon meant to teach kids about conflict resolution and sell dollies.
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>>2576197>>2575880A lot of it just comes from trying to steal something from it's target audience honestly, especially in the case of bronies.
No. 2576265
>>2576214I think it can just be plain insecurity too though, especially since animation in general can have a dismissive reputation of
only being for children, rather than a medium anyone could enjoy, so these kinds of fans over-correct by trying to hype up anything slightly mature or grim as making it not some great shame to be watching it while not also being under 13 years old. That insecurity is, of course, an expression of immaturity too (and buying into the aforementioned stereotype + that media for children can't also be thoughtful/sad/scary/intense/violent). Just enjoy stuff kek
I feel like you do see it a bit less (at least as a defensive argument, maybe not the 'omg this is a kids show???' hyperbole) now that things like anime are more mainstream, and I've noticed that it can also be dependent on cultural stuff or how sheltered someone is– some people have really low thresholds for what makes something for kids or not.
No. 2576371
>>2576027These days most fandoms will unfortunately have trannies, unless the series tries REALLY hard to filter them, which is easier said than done. One way to (somewhat) accomplish this would be media with a huge language barrier, or media that just doesn't have a large western following in the first place. Of course, this obviously makes it harder to engage in fandom, as most of it ends up being non-english speaking.
I have a fujo ship that gets a lot of content and I don't have to worry about troon shit, but at the same time most of it is japanese and it's very niche on the western side of fandom,
plus nonas here probably wouldn't be into it anyway. So they definitely exist, but I would honestly recommend just ignoring western fandoms of things you're into and sticking to asian artists for fan content.
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>>2576208NTA and I don't know what you were replying to, but
same. The first villain in TLOK used to scare me even more
even though I also thought he was hot because he made bloodbending seem unstoppable.
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We regret to inform you that the dandadan retards are at it again
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>>2570721I'm glad he's dead. He should've died sooner. Can't wait until more pedos like him and Toriyama die
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This “THEY HAVE TWO HANDS!1!1” polyamory orgy obsession is so fucking obnoxious. I guess regular old monogamous gay couples are too “normal” for the kids these days. I hate seeing people turning everything into a harem and then call it le epic heckin queer rep and happy pride!!! And you’re “homophobic” if you dislike it. Just take me out because I am tired of seeing it
No. 2577419
>>2577204It literally looks like ugly bastard rape hentai. That onsen cliffhanger scene as well. The defenders of this shit are braindamaged.
Also the joke that is people who gas up momo/okarun as “not like other
toxic straight ships uwu” bitch he blushed on top of another girl
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>>2554309>>2554341Late reply, but here’s a chart to help visualize. The letters aren’t a specific size, they represent the difference in inches between the bust and underbust measurements. So for example, 34A and 28D have the exact same volume just with a different band size
No. 2577433
>>2577343I'm also glad he could never complete his shitty misogynistic rape manga.
Retarded Miura can't interpret statistics. Japan is notorious for a culture that suppresses crimes against women. And the western countries aren't the ones famous for chikan (train molestation). Also is he implying that those western countries are worse for punishing CSAM possession? God
No. 2577447
>>2577236>iirc one of them got kicked off the team for agreeing with JK RowlingYeah this did happen and I can't believe I forgot about this. I think the fear of backlash they'd get from the TIF fanbase played at least a decent role in the team's decision to get rid of whoever that was. They still haven't put any confirmed gay characters in the books to appease them, though, (supposedly because they don't want countries like Russia banning them, though a similar dragon book series called Wings of Fire has a canon lesbian couple and it's doing fine afaik) so it seems performative.
>Also, becoming aware of how destructive stray cat colonies are on local ecosystems really takes the shine off of Warrior cats kekI mean, Warriors is known for not being afraid to kill off major characters via brutal methods (especially for a children's series). It's not presented as a happy or whimsical world for anyone so I can put that aside.
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>>2577066Subahibi is an interesting case. I feel like all the ero scenes are definitely jerkoff fuel for degenerate scrotes and a projection of Scaji's fetishes, and if it weren't then there wouldn't be HCGs of the particularly disturbing scenes to begin with. But on the other hand, even the most disgusting otaku moids I've seen have been grossed out by some of the hentai scenes. VNs like Maggot Baits or Euphoria rely on visual stimuli to feel disgust, Subahibi HCGs (namely the ones that weren't purely made with fap material in mind) rely on the psychological components. They are dependent on context to feel the exceptional discomfort the game is so good at evoking the feeling of.
No. 2577478
>>2577447Warrior Cats is DEFINITELY not supposed to be a happy world kek.
So many kittens die in that series it's insane.
No. 2577515
>>2576973Not even Edgey-poo is spared WTF
>>2576983This. Berserk fans will look at you straight in the eye and pretend the female characters being raped for pages and pages is deep and meaningful. But it's ok because the main character took it in the ass by force once.
No. 2577535
>>2577462I genuinely think it's supposed to be both in subahibi, the scene where Zakuro gets raped is framed in a way where a really degen otaku could jack off to it but the vast majority of people will just feel absolutely disgusted.
I gotta give it props there in that the scenes with the teacher were so disgusting that I actually felt extreme shock (also helps that I like Subahibi and I don't like Clockup VNs)
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>>2577549Agreed, for a scrotege it's surprisingly realistic about what moids are actually like and the only one who's kind of sympathetic in game is Takuji who also gets raped by men.
No. 2577560
>>2577554Takuji's rape scene was some of the most vile shit I've ever read, I think I got nauseous at some parts.
Another thing I found realistic is when the bully girls "comfort" Zakuro by saying the rape wasn't a big deal and the same happened to them. Showing how some traumatized women normalize their abuse and then cope by trying to inflict it on other women is more nuanced than I'd expect from a scrotege.
No. 2577564
>>2577560A surprising amount of the first three chapters (not the prologue obviously) are like that, not so much for tsui no sora remake though (it does that trope where everyone is in love with the protagonist except for Yasuko because she's a lesbian)
>Showing how some traumatized women normalize their abuse and then cope by trying to inflict it on other women is more nuanced than I'd expect from a scrotegeI remember someone saying that had Megu not been raped and let out her internal anger on physical activity or something she probably could have been a decent person, not sure for Satoko though since she joined a gang and was shoving bats up other girls from a pretty young age based on the text.
No. 2577575
>>2577568I don't remember if they mention it with Satoko, they more just have her as the scary girl to act as bodyguard for Megu.
>I did not really care about Tomosane.Only moege moids like Tomosane, his chapters don't have anything to offer kek.
Endsky 2 is kind of cool though (albeit very short) and the ED is one of the best I've ever heard.
No. 2578977
>>2577554>>2577560Alright, you guys sold me on subahibi, I'll play it now. I remember back in 2018, I spent a lot of time on /vg/'s visual novel general and there was a ritualposter talking about how she's "used goods" and
triggered the fuck out of me and made me feel like I was also used goods for not being a virgin at age 19-20. I fucking hate scrotes so much.
No. 2578986
>>2578983It CAN be a
valid way to cope, though. A common fantasy of abuse survivors are things along the lines of standing up to their abusers, imagining if they actually had power and could fight back, imagining having a secret weapon to shock their abuser with to get away and feel satisfied, etc… it's no different with rape
victims, and writing it is a good way to get it out of your system, similar to how journaling is good for that very reason.
No. 2578994
>>2578991As I said, it's a good way to get it out of your system. Unresolved trauma leads to rumination, but how are you supposed to even resolve trauma? By talking about it over and over and over with a therapist who only looks at your pain through a clinical lens? But what about sharing it with people who may have similar feelings to you? Connecting to other people through your pain? Slowly realizing it wasn't your fault or that you can still be loved as you write it out and realize you want the characters you're projecting onto to have a happy ending, and subsequently, yourself as well? Even in rapefic that just seems like glorified torture porn with no catharsis, there's still the element of "look at me. look at the fact i'm hurting. it's nasty, isn't it? look me dead in the eyes, and don't ignore me" which can be cathartic in the sense that most people will want to ignore you're hurting. It can lead to a covert form of
victim blaming where people blame the
victim for having PTSD after the attack and daring to burden them with their emotions. But with the anonymity aspect of fanfic, that danger is gone.
No. 2578999
>>2578973Aren't a lot of antis handmaidens too at least from all the others I knew? Which is funny considering the amount of weird fetishes troons have. But since there's no incest or lolis involved, it's okay and anyone pointing it out is a meanie
terf kek.
No. 2579080
>>2578983i also hate the trauma defense, as if you
need to be a
victim of rape for it to be acceptable for you to write about. just own the fact that you think its hot.
No. 2579086
>>2579080I agree with this a lot. If rapefags keep hiding behind the "molested by a babysitter" excuse, it's going to make normies think that it's normal for rape
victims to sexualize what happened to themselves. Almost like how pedophiles who got molested kept using that as an excuse, and managed to convince normies for a while that people become pedophiles FROM being molested.
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>>2579206NTA but here's one.
No. 2579219
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>>2579206I never said it was common. As a love interest I think shorter guys are uncommon because most women prefer them taller, and I don't have a mental catalog of every time I've seen a tall woman next to a shorter man in my head I can reference on the spot for you.
Here's some random shitty image I pulled off googling anime tall women next to short men. I don't know about you but that doesn't look like a shota body to me, and the woman does not look like a monster.
No. 2579227
>>2579224No one is talking about 3dpd.
>>2579219Still looks weird to me, he looks stretched. I think the best example of it would be love complex or haru x kiyo.
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>>2579215>>2579217How? He looks like a basic anime guy.
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>>2579227>haru x kiyoI looked it up and kek, why is his head so small. Kinda makes me think of a tim and a tif with the head sizes. Also in this pic he almost looks like a deformed wide shota.
No. 2579255
>>2575630It's really ironic, because the core principle of being a proshipper is that everyone should be able to draw what they want as long as long as no real people are involved nor bear close resemblance to actual children or animals. I've noticed this hypocrisy myself, it especially bothers me that women like this only speak up about how women should be able to write or draw whatever they want when it comes to misogynistic maledom slop. I've never seen femdom, ryona, yaoi, etc. get that type of defense.
>>2575652As a "proshipper" my belief that anyone should be able to draw and write whatever they want extends to women only, especially since purity culture primarily affects women. It's how we end up with people calling bishies pedophilia, Gaydens harping on fujos for muh fetishization, male sexualization being targeted, and so forth.
No. 2579284
>>2579264A short male character who isn't a shota doesn't look like a shota if next to a normal height woman, he just looks like an average guy instead of a short guy. I guess your issue is just that men can't be significantly shorter than the average woman's height without going into actual child heights, and you think tall women look like freakish worms and don't want to see them.
If that's how you're defining it then yeah you're right it's not possible to make a man who is sub 5'0 without looking like a child or a weird looking midget who doesn't conform to the typical proportions of a handsome man, because that literally doesn't exist at all, it's not an actual physical possibility. inb4 you sperg about 3DPD again but yes this not being proportionally possible irl also means you can't draw it and have it look natural in art either.
Why not just own that you like shotas?
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>>2579264nona, beyond him being short, he's a halfling. halfling's in dunmeshi are stated to look like children
https://delicious-in-dungeon.fandom.com/wiki/Half-foots. half of the jokes that center chil are basically "WTF why is this toddler smoking and drinking?!" he is 100% a shota and it has nothing to do with outside perceptions, it's canon.
No. 2579527
>>2579509M/M (or even F on M noncon in the few instances when it isn’t Moidy) is enjoyable to me just because it’s fun to see a cute guy in a state of distress. I really do enjoy the tension and angst that comes from these sorts of scenarios but I hate the idea of seeing a woman go through it. I can only tolerate M on F noncon if it’s a harlequin romance type situation where it’s romantically idealized and clear the woman is into it, but when a man is the
victim I can enjoy the darker aspects.
No. 2579881
>>2579655Tbh nonna the good fanfic writers are doing absolutely fine. Character AI (and similar) generate slop because it's fed slop. I respect everyone who writes
but Wattpaddies getting butthurt their copy and paste self inserts are being eaten by a slopmachine isn't actually doing that much damage
No. 2580342
>>2579114>>2579194I think that really would qualify as shota to a lot of people, being a short anime man has to be rough.
>>2579257Poor Chilchuck.
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>>2578650Maybe in the next trailer, she'll say, "crash out," or "go off I guess," or whatever else it is middle schoolers say these days
No. 2580377
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>>2577403My response this this kek, especially when polyshit is proposed as the "solution" to a love triangle
No. 2580410
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>>2580374>>2580395Yeah not to be an NLOG or whatever, if you relate to the average xreader MC more power to you, but no reader character will ever act as insufferable as I do kek. Like your typical shy girl next door xreader character is not going to sperg out about a podcast she recently listened to about crime in the Chinese squid-fishing industry.
No. 2580918
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>>2580425Well their idea of an "ideal girl" is very different from mine kek
No. 2580963
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I am loving how Death Stranding 2 is pissing off people by daring to have some actual feminist messaging. I was shocked this actually came from kojima of all people. One of the messages literally appears to be "men should protect women and children, not victimize and oppress them" but woke gendies got mad because a game with the themes of life and death and species extinction has, oh no! procreation and babies and female biology, you know, the basic biological facts of the matter, as a theme.
For characters like Rainy it was their choice, and they were artificially inseminated, and characters talk about it being wrong to be forced into it or enslaved. It is actually quite nuanced about motherhood and women if people took off their staunch tumblr anti-natalist goggles for two seconds.
They made a game that both triggers male anti-woke bro gamers who think female character = fanservice and were expecting metal gear tier fanservice from the game for some retarded reason. Also christian men mad about the women and children only society that protects themselves from men, especially the exact kind of men they are (and probably also the fact they were artificially inseminated, because it goes against their religion that demands women only sleep with moids to have children kek)
The only questionable moments I noticed are when the guitar douchebag moid constrains tomorrow in a questionable manner, but A) That is in-character for that moid and B) He is immediately flipped off by fragile for it. People talk about the barefoot thing but most normal people don't see feet and instantly think of sex. It isn't exactly portrayed as titillating anyway. The clothes look like actual clothes people wear. Nintendo games for children sexualize the female characters more than this game does. So basically moids are mad this isn't porn and has an actual message, and gendie libfems are mad this game acknowledges biological sex and how women are oppressed due to their sex and where babies come from so they have to pretend it is just feet porn. Or they're mad about the concept that women need to be protected, which is just true unless you live in a delusional fantasy world.
If anything that ending makes me sad because of how moids will never actually protect women and children that way. Moids are only protectors like they should be in fiction.
No. 2581250
>>2580963A step up from MGS for sure, but Kojima is still a benevolent sexist scrote and this isn't the epic ween you think it is.
>Or they're mad about the concept that women need to be protected, which is just true unless you live in a delusional fantasy world. From who, exactly? Other scrotes. You sound like a tradthot parroting the "w-women need to be protected by males!" shit when the issue has ALWAYS been scrotes. I haven't played DS though but it makes sense any rational feminist would be mad over it.
Honestly, Kojima shouldn't write women at all. He should stick to writing about men getting molested by rapestacies and doing cartwheels naked.
No. 2581498
>>2581399>stuff like "they all fuck" or "the love rivals date each other instead" just feel lazy To me it's not just lazy, it's pure cowardice. It's the option for writers who can't write actual conflicts or more negative outcomes for their characters. Fullbody added a love interest that seems too good to be true, too perfect compared to Catherine and Katherine until
you find out he's a guy and Vincent feels conflicted at first when he learns about it, I like that new character but it did somewhat ruin the balance from the original game.
No. 2581509
>>2581498>it's pure cowardice. It's the option for writers who can't write actual conflicts or more negative outcomes for their charactersAgreed, it can work in comedic scenarios but if it's a love triangle that's actually meant to be taken seriously on some level it just feels really lazy.
>I like that new character but it did somewhat ruin the balance from the original game.Yeah Atlus games have that issue where the add on characters always feel like they're add ons and you can tell that they weren't originally planned, adding a sudden "is it okay to be in love with a man who looks and acts exactly like a woman???" plot into a game about a guy cheating on two extremely different women feels kinda out of nowhere.
I do notice usually when they add a guy to the love triangle (or general harem) he's either the most perfect or the most
toxic option kek.
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>>2581509>I do notice usually when they add a guy to the love triangle (or general harem) he's either the most perfect or the most toxic option kekMoids
yearn for the hurt/comfort embrace of the Wattpadian husbando.
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>>2581515Only if they're traps (gay guys don't fuck with bisexuals), the usual "guy in the harem" is for fujos.
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>>2580353Ayrt They're writing off character one shot self inserts about Gojo putting a collar on you so you remember he's your daddy while he's at his CEO job. I would
strongly argue in the case of some autistic angel who has spent years crafting good fanfics, but that's not what the chatbots are taking. If they were then C.ai wouldn't be saying shit like "he touched you possessively with his primitive jealousy arms" and insisting that you look like a little girl. Fanfic writers by vast majority can suck my headcanon one shot peenor I authored for this post possessively with my dominant throat bob