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A thread for Leafs to discuss their homeland.
Discuss Canadian problems, politics, history, crime, culture, current happenings, etc.
>Where do you think Canada is heading in the future?>What do you think is the biggest challenge facing Canada?>How do you think Canada can improve itself?>Why do you think Canada is so great, or, so bad?>What are the best parts of life in Canada? What are the worst parts?N'hésitez pas à utiliser la langue du Québec. En vérité, le Québec est le Canada authentique et pur.
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As a reminder, to both anons and farmhands, discussing immigration does NOT constitute racebait. Discussing immigration should not be restricted within this thread, as it is a very real and topical issue in Canada. No. 2517159
I found this video and it made me laugh. The actor really sells it.
>>2517045I think a lot of young people voted conservative because they were tired of having liberals in, nothing to do with the actual politics of the parties or anything. Young people don't matter anyway, as long as the over-50 crowd is satisfied that's all that matters.
No. 2517225
>>2517045PP is pro-immigration just like every other major party leader, but the Liberal government ramped up immigration as soon as they got in power and have pledged to keep immigration levels higher than PP did (I think PP suggested 250k/year and Carney said 550/year). They're both acolytes of the Century Initiative so they're both into 'postnationalism' and rapid population growth through immigration but I think young people believed the Conservatives were the better of two bad choices especially considering the Liberals' track record to fuck everything up in never-before-seen ways.
The other major reason is probably housing and carbon tax shit and just affordability in general. The Liberals are extremely invested in keeping housing expensive and PP talked a lot about housing affordability during his campaign, Carney was one of the main architects of the current housing crisis and most Liberal voters are boomer homeowners so young people want to vote against them for obvious reasons. Carney threw some bones about reducing the carbon tax but is introducing other 'hidden' carbon taxes while Poilievre was against them in general from what I understand. I agree with
>>2517159 though that it's largely just about wanting a change. The messaging from the Liberals has been 'yeah we fucked everything up for the younger voters and we think we did a great job' so younger people's voting patterns were a reaction against that. They don't want to continue rewarding a party that congratulates itself on fucking up their futures. Most people I've talked to reluctantly voted Conservative because they didn't feel PP would change as much as he should but they thought it would be better than nothing.
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>>2517269Why did you bring up the mexican fruit pickers anon? Nobody cares about them
No. 2517337
>>2517303What's more autistic, spending a week obsessively trying to re-start a dead conversation about farm workers that you were inexplicably
triggered by to the point of trying to cozy up to the same anon who made the post with your schizo theory about Amerifag boomer thread infiltration to talk about it, then dragging it into a new thread, or stating that the UAE is a slave economy, a point 5-6 different anons all agreed with because it's blatantly obvious? I guess we will never know, but if you don't want to seem like a sperg you could just stop sperging about it and move on. I think there are only 1-2 anons in this thread dead-set on continuing to talk about mexican fruit pickers and it's obvious who they are.
Kek though at
>What you're saying sounds typical and most people have been hearing these things>You are also simultaneously an American boomer hellbent on silencing discussion of Canadians' everyday lived experienceswhile derailing a conversation about the canadian job market because of your special interest, mexican fruit pickers, apparently.
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>>2517337>What's more autistic, Nta but I love that you started another multi-paragraph sperg with this kekkk
(bait) No. 2521532
>>2521477The older generation (boomers) - had everything handed to them, doesn't care to help the younger ones
Immigrants - openly criticize culture, pissed Canada isn't the motherlode they thought it was, treat women the same way as in their home countries
Large chunk of the younger generation - live at home with their parents. Literally so many people I know are doing this. It's delayed adolescence. Maybe I'm just jealous because I can't..
People who got theirs - who cares about home prices etc being driven up?? We should all virtue signal so everyone knows how important I am ~
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Has anyone been following the pictou county missing kids case? It's very suspicious and a lot of people are speculating the parents had something to do with it. The kids supposedly wandered off their property while the parents were sleeping and haven't been seen since, no trace of them has been found. They hadn't been to school in 3 days before being reported missing and the mother left town and cut contact with the father the next day.
https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/missing-children-pictou-county-lily-jack-sullivan-1.7527613 No. 2521782
>>2521772Don't bother with an MA right now, you'd be wasting your time and prolonging the inevitable. A lot of people get these "useless" (I don't agree with the term) Bachelors degrees, and then when they realize that there's no job market for them, they think that going and getting a Masters will change everything, but it won't.
Get into a college program for a career or profession that is in demand. Obvious examples include medical technicians. For example, most x-ray technician programs are 2 years, and there's a big market. You'd probably get a job right after graduation. Same thing with pharmaceutical technicians. Maybe in your late 30s or early 40s you can go back for your Masters degree if you're still interested in it.
The reason why a lot of highly-educated professionals can't find jobs here is because those industries are too small in this country, there's not enough opportunities. That's why so many STEM graduates end up graduating, because there's a much higher change of getting a job in the field elsewhere. It's the same thing for your field.
No. 2521829
>>2521782Seconding this, unless you're already getting work in your arts field in which case it might be a good idea to do an MFA a few years later once you've racked up more of a clientele. If you're doing a bachelor's in a fine or performing arts field and you don't have steady work already, there's really no point in a master's at this stage.
Look for 1-2 year college programs or trade schools or something like that if you want to be more employable. You could also just try applying for jobs vaguely related to your bachelor's before your graduation, you might get lucky.
No. 2521864
>>2521782I don't think this is necessarily good advice, Masters degrees are the new bachelors degrees. They're a basic job requirement for a lot of fields.
2 year college programs are extremely oversaturated with TFWs right now.
No. 2521900
>>2521864In the fine arts doing a master's is typically something you do after a few years working, to refine your craft. Everyone I know who did a master's straight out of their bachelor's in fine or performing arts just ended up unemployed after because arts school is mostly for the connections and resources while you're working and building up a portfolio/connections. If that nonna is worried about job prospects now then dumping more money into attending grad school probably isn't a good idea.
It is possible to get jobs other than independent artist with arts degrees though, some people manage. She should at least try looking for a job first before jumping right into an unrelated degree, probably.
No. 2522130
>>2521864>Masters degrees are the new bachelors degreesExcept they aren't. Degrees don't entitle you to lucrative jobs in Canada. Maybe if this was some other country. Canada has the most educated population in the G7, but the issue is that because so many people here have degrees, and because there's so few jobs that require them, they're essentially useless. It devalues the wages of the jobs that do require them, and it heightens competition between holders.
>2 year college programs are extremely oversaturated with TFWs right now.Those are international students, not TFWs, and really they're only a problem at certain disreputable colleges. Most of the colleges that still give a crap about education limit them. She can spend 2 years getting her Masters in the Fine Arts, and then be screwed over even more at graduation, or she can spend 2 years in a college program preparing for employment in a stable career. In our economy, the latter is better than the former.
>>2521900>Everyone I know who did a master's straight out of their bachelor's in fine or performing arts just ended up unemployed after because arts school is mostly for the connections and resources while you're working and building up a portfolio/connections.Me too. Even outside the arts, most of the people that I know with a graduate degree are working in retail making less than $20/hour.
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>>2522479A lot of people do move, there's something like 1 million Canadian citizens that reside in the USA. Emigration to the USA specifically has increased in recent years. According to a CBC article published in 2024, emigration to the USA hit a 10-year high in 2022, with over 125 thousand people leaving Canada that year alone - a 70% increase from 2012. I found this table on the StatCan website, and although the data stops at 2017, you can there's a continual increase in emigrants as the decades march on.
Whining is the national pass-time. Canadians love to whine and complain. It's why the whiners stay in Canada and the people that don't like to whine leave. Even you whine about the whiners. It's a never-ending cycle of whining and complaining.
>It's not even an extensive process compared to other types of visa applications.It might not be as difficult as other visa processes, but it's still an extensive process that a lot of people aren't up for. It's by no means an easy thing to do; it requires time, energy, and money. A lot of the people that live cheque-to-cheque (which is something like 47% of the population, according to recent polls) don't have the time, energy, or money to consider emigration - but, of course, they do have enough time and energy to complain.
>why don't you just move?It's different for everyone. Some people aren't adventurous, some people aren't educated, some people are cowards, some people have to care for elderly family members, etc. A lot of people are swayed by family and friends that want them to stay.
>If it's so much better down southThis is another barrier to emigration. A lot of Canadians have this superiority complex, specifically when it comes to the USA, that they'll not-so-secretly seethe whenever you mention that you're planning to emigrate. "
If it's so much better," no, not "
if," you should say "
since it's so much better," because America DOES have a stronger economy, it DOES have more jobs, it DOES offer higher salaries. When a Canadian talks about moving down to the States, half the time all the people around them feel the need to start shitting on America and ranting about how Canada is superior in every which way, and that in itself can act as a deterrent. When I first starting telling people about my plan to emigrate, I was called a traitor, a quitter, a loser, and more, all because I dared to admit that I didn't like living in Canada. Frankly, it's ridiculous the hoops that a lot of Canadians have to jump through to justify their undeserved superiority complexes.
No. 2523729
>>2522578All good points, but primarily I'd say the reason a lot of people don't move is that they aren't right out of school and free to do that. With a TN visa you're still basically tied to your employer in the US so a lot of people have to consider that they could start a whole new life in the US and have to move back up here (moving is expensive and time consuming) often with family in tow. You won't get a green card just for getting married in the US so if you start a family down there and lose your job you may have to move back. It's a bigger issue who already have family up here - one spouse may have a job they could get a TN with but the other spouse may not, there can be concern about school for the kids (Canada still does have marginally better primary/secondary schooling than the US, though it's nosediving fast), and moving the rest of your family over can be a nightmare even if you yourself could be earning more in the States. I would highly recommend to anyone straight out of school, single, and childless to move to the US if they can, even if it's just for a few years to earn some more money and save up, but the older you get the harder it is. I know two couples going through this now, where one partner was offered a job in the US and both partners were down to move but the other partner isn't having any luck getting a visa in the States so they're most likely staying. The people I know who have moved down there successfully are single and unattached.
You also may need specific education or work criteria to get a TN, like you could be working as a programmer at a big company in Canada without a compsci bachelor's (you 'learned to code') and the US branch of the company you're working for can't offer you a TN visa unless you either get the education or have worked a certain number of years at the company. I also know someone this happened to, they interviewed successfully at a major tech company in Seattle, were offered the job, and then had the job offer rescinded over a technicality and now are stuck working for a branch of that company here for several more years before they can figure out a way to move them down to the States.
Basically if you have it all planned out far enough in advance it should be pretty doable but a lot of the complaining is people who just diligently did what their parents/teachers told them they should do (get a college education in a good field!) without thinking too hard about the economy generally, graduated, started job searching and then realized they're screwed. They've been suddenly blindsided by the shitty job market because they thought the planning they had done back in high school was sufficient to land them a good job upon graduation, so now they're complaining. Most young people don't think that hard about the practicalities of the economy and starting a household when they're in the middle of college, they're probably still bankrolled by their parents, and focusing on getting good grades like everyone tells them to. The boomer and Gen X parents and teachers don't understand the job market either and think they can easily get a job as long as they have a degree and apply to a handful of companies so there likely isn't anyone to tell them to plan to get out.
No. 2523775
>>2523729>a lot of the complaining is people who just diligently did what their parents/teachers told them they should do (get a college education in a good field!) without thinking too hard about the economy generally, graduated, started job searching and then realized they're screwedThis is pretty much what fucked me over and why I chose to leave. When I was growing up, I was told that if I tried hard, and studied a lot, got a degree, I'd have a good easy life. That was the social contract that my parents told me about and what my teachers and other important figures in my life told me. I graduated secondary school in the mid-2010s, went to university, graduated in the top 20% of my class - why can't I have a nice life? Why can't I afford a place to live? Why cant I find a job? Why do I have to go to the food bank? The social contract is broken, and I didn't even realize it until I was out of university.
And a lot of patriots (read: copium addicts) will cope and say "oh, well EVERY Western country is doing bad! EVERY Western country has inflation! EVERY Western country has a housing crisis, rabble rabble rabble!" and it's like yeah, that's true, but Canada is the worst of the bunch! By all measures, it's the worst! I'd rather live in the 3rd worst country than in the worst country.
No. 2523807
>>2523775I am not leaving at the moment but I had a similar experience to you, just earlier. I graduated university in the 2010s, had to get like 4 different part-time jobs to just barely survive, went back to grad school and did really really well in grad school, but finished it already knowing I would be screwed again post-COVID. I have a job that's kind of related to my education, ish, and pays well by the hour but it's not salaried and finding a salaried job amidst all the ghost jobs when each job I apply for gets like 200 applicants within an hour of being posted is a nightmare. I got lucky with housing though so I know my situation is way better than most, except I can basically never move if I ever want cheap housing like this again and my neighbourhood is turning into a total shitheap. It was so nice when I first moved in.
I kind of agree with the people saying every Western country (except the USA probably) is bad and has its own problems, but financially Canada is probably the worst. Some other countries in Europe have worse immigration issues, like some British cities are like 60% North African/Pakistani immigrants now and Canada still is probably safer for women than some of those places, but in terms of social mobility, affordable housing, etc. I agree it's the worst, and the biggest issue is that there's so little pushback against it getting worse by the people who live here. This whole better than America politeness culture is running the country into the ground because no one wants to admit how bad things have gotten here. I have a lot of sympathy for what you're calling patriots wanting to stick around and fight to make their own home better instead of just leaving but a handful of people can't do that effectively when everyone else is just sticking their fingers in their ears going lalalala I can't hear you this is the best country in the world!
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>>2523854Ok, I hope that’s true
I’m engaged to a guy who’s dual American and Canadian citizenship and I was hoping to move there for a bit.. his mom is adamantly against it though but at least now I know that there’s not as much of a risk as the news says
People also say America is so dangerous do you think that’s overblown? Canada is pretty dangerous at the moment but guns etc. are restricted
No. 2523866
>>2523860Ntayrt but someone last thread posted statistics about this, in this
>>2493843 post. Canada is more dangerous than America, statistically speaking you're more likely to be a
victim or a violent crime or property crime in Canada than in the USA.
No. 2523868
>>2523860Canada has a higher violent crime rate than the US at the moment, anon. And in the US the 'dangerous areas' are usually specific areas within specific cities, whereas in Canada the crime is spread around more. If you know which neighbourhoods to stay away from in the US you're probably safer on the streets there than you are in Canadian cities overall.
I know people who go back and forth for work many times per year and most of them have no issues whatsoever, the stories where someone gets thrown into a detention centre for weeks are usually just weird freak cases. Speaking for myself I got temporarily detained at the border/airport under suspicion twice as a teenager/early-20s person, once under Bush and once under Obama, and it was completely fucking random because I was like a tiny young girl (in one case underage) but the border security people there like to power trip. I got held back from my connecting flight to Canada because some retarded moid accused me of trying to illegally emigrate into the United States kek, and kept shushing me when I told him I was actually trying to leave the US and he was stopping me from leaving. In both cases they ended up letting me go eventually but this shit has always happened to random people even though 99.99% of people will go through without issue.
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>>2525442Since you have a PHD, it might be a lot easier for you to just get a job as a geologist or at least a job in the geology field in the USA with a TN visa. Most employers will bring you in under a TN visa, and then if they like you they'll be entering you into the H1B lottery every year in hopes that you get it. So even though the TN visa itself is temporary, most people with it stay in the USA for long periods of time. I'd really consult with an immigration lawyer that's familiar with the TN visa process if I were you.
Your idea that the USA and Australia are doomed seems more like a projection or a doomer state of mind. The USA and Australia are really great countries to live and work in, at least better than Canada in a lot of regards. I'd consider the USA and Australia, but the USA specifically, to offer you more opportunities and a higher quality of life than the EU.
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I love the dynamics of the drug addiction crisis. Shopping downtown for the day and walked by 14 homeless drug addicts in total, this is the only one I snapped a photo of because he kept nodding out and smashing his head on the ground before leaning back up until nodding off again. Watching everyone walking past these animals without looking at them is so strange. Ignoring the problem only makes the problem worse. I do think that the animals should be put down, because I live in a city with under 100k people but we still have hundreds of deranged addicts roaming the street and fighting off delusion-demons while screaming and getting their own blood everywhere. It's gross.
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>>2525432Out of the countries listed the USA would probably be ideal. I wouldn't personally move to China, Africa or the UK right now. Australia has some advantages but many of the same issues Canada does, but it's not the worst option either. There are a lot of good things about Australia including a generally chiller/better-compensated work culture (especially for women), better climate (if you don't love the freezing cold), etc. I also would imagine there might be ample geological work available there but I might be wrong, that's just my assumption (my dad has graduate education in geology and he was offered jobs in Australia multiple times though he never took them).
>>2525926Saying they should be put down is a bit much but I agree something needs to be done about the addict problem. I live in a bigger city and just walking to the nearest grocery store or the gym I probably pass 20 of these people every time. They always come hang out in my building too since we don't have security and endanger everyone. The push to functionally decriminalize (public) drug use and offer 'safe injection sites' (kek) has made things so much worse in many cities. My friend a couple years ago said some methhead passed out in the middle of a crosswalk at a busy intersection and no one even called the cops, cars just drove around him because no one wants to deal with it anymore. Then there's like total normie college students who walk around with narcan trying to revive these idiots risking their own safety. At some point I think we need forced rehab/institutionalization for people who nod off/OD/use hard drugs in public at least but there's such a stigma against asylums and forced rehab no one wants to do it.
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Remember to thank your local Poop Fairies everyone!! Elbows up!!Canada #1 best country in world!!!
https://nationalpost.com/news/canada/vancouvers-poop-fairies No. 2529397
>>2529347There's also the political element of it. The largest voting demographic is people over 50, so every party is going to try their hardest to appeal to them over the younger generation so that they can win elections. This is a problem that's happening in a lot of ageing countries, and it won't be changing anytime soon. Besides being the bigger demographic, they're also the ones that show up and vote the most. For all the Zoomers whinging on TT about how important voting is, they never seem to turn up to actually vote.
All the parties know that they have to work their hardest to maintain the current real estate market, and in essence, make homes more unaffordable, because that's what the voters that matter want. They want to have the value of their shoddy home to keep increasing year after year, otherwise they're not going to be able to retire well and live well. Right now, people over 50 own about a third of everything. When they were buying homes in their 20s, the old people at that time owned less than 8%.
The country is eating the future to feed the past.
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This kind of shit honestly pisses me off. I promise I am not trying to race bait but if you can't afford tuition overseas then maybe you should?? go back to your own country?? Instead of creating an online campaign and trying to make everyone feel bad for you?? I'm probably just salty as someone who's indigenous and suffered a lot of abuse growing up but the entitlement of some of these foreigners is insane. I honestly don't care if the kid is Albert Einstein- stop begging for the money of Canadians when we can barely fund our own people.
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>>2531852There seems to be this unspoken thought: "Everyone deserves to study, work, and live in Canada, no matter where they're from; they are entitled to be here," and I have to ask - why? If a person doesn't have the money to come here for education, then don't come here for education. It's not exactly rocket science. Shall I show up to Iran and say to the ayatollah "Oh, please let me in! I want to study! Also, I don't have money!" and see what he says? No. Nobody is entitled to study, work, or reside in Canada besides Canadians.
Potential international students are asked to prove that they have the funds to support themselves for the duration of their studies before they're issues a student visa, so I'm confused as to why she was allowed into the country to begin with if she never had the funds. Is there a special consideration due to her young age? Maybe 15 year olds shouldn't be in university, even if they are geniuses. Maybe 15 year olds should be kids for a while and wait until they're legal adults before moving to another country as a student.
The whole situation is confusing because the articles lead you to believe that she came to Canada on her own on a student visa, but it seems as she came here with her mother who is on a work visa. Was the work visa approved before the student visa, or vice versa? Concordia University accepted her 2 years ago, but her documents took so long to verify that she only started Fall 2024. Was that not enough time for her mother and father, both employed full-time, to save up $20k? They should have already had it saved up if she got the student visa. The immigration system is so convoluted and it's not working correctly. The journalists didn't do a good job either, they wrote a very biased story and they should have done more investigation.
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>>2531912>The journalists didn't do a good job eitherTheir job is to promote immigration to canada and pacify/gaslight canadians on the topic of immigration. That's pretty much their only job, it's kind of a running joke how "sob stories" in the news are always about non-canadians
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>>2530145>>2530382Inheritance seems to becoming a hot-topic these days. The Toronto Sun just released an article today about a survey regarding inheritance. Apparently about 60% of parents believe that they won't have much money left over for their kids to inherit. It's interesting when you pair this survey with studies that have been released lately which imply that Canada is becoming a very socially unequal country with low levels of class mobility.
I do agree though, I think that both the inheritance tax and the exit tax will become bigger hurdles in the near future. The exit tax is already at 25%, but if emigration trends continue then I wouldn't be surprised if that rate shot up to 40% or 50%.
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Well anons, it's happening again. Fuck Canada Post.
No. 2533593
>>2531852Honestly this sounds mean but Concordia has terrible bio/biochem programs, so she can't possibly be especially talented and necessary for our country. There are people with biochem degrees from UofT and McGill who can't get a job in pharma. This whole thing seems like a weird grift.
>>2531912Who's the legal guardian that isn't her mother? Everything about this story is really strange. But you're right, we're not a dumping ground for every 'smart' person in the world to get educated here and compete with Canadians for already limited jobs. I don't give a shit that some slightly smarter-than-average Iranian teenager doesn't have a free $150k lying around, neither do I. When I can't pay for luxuries like international degrees I just don't buy them, and I think that goes for most people.
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>>2537290>>2537388Ah yes, the Canadian Dream where teenagers can’t earn an income or learn basic job skills anymore because Tim Horton’s (along with every small locally-owned shop in more rural areas) is only hiring Indian scrotes now. Vive la Canadienne! I’m seething so hard rn
No. 2537632
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Just a non-canuck with a question. Is it actually common for people to use bagged milk? It gives me the vibes of one of those things that mostly only older people do.
No. 2538636
It's frustrating to see americans coming into Canada because of trump.
>>2537045Yeah, that's what I was telling my husband too because at least we were engaged when I moved to the states.
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Fag. Also do any other leafs just never mention they have irish ancestry, bc irish people (in general) are such assholes about it? I've never heard of any other nationality gatekeeping their heritage, only the irish
No. 2539748
>>2539538>I've never heard of any other nationality gatekeeping their heritage, only the irishI've seen this with a few different nationalities, annecdotes about some Americans of Russian ancestry who worked in Moscow and Petersburg and tried to 'reconnect with their roots' who pretty much got bullied by the Russians and told they will never be Russian until they left. I've also heard plenty of horror stories about Nisei being lured over to Japan with promises of work and integration being treated abominably. Chinese Americans who work in China as english teachers have told me that they're treated worse than the white teachers, they tell me the natives consider them retarded and / or counterfeit Chinese.
I'd say it's less a matter of gatekeeping the ethnicity and more of an irritation with foreigners who just don't fit in or understand the culture expecting to be seen as one of them. It's probably just better known with people of Irish ancestry because of the sheer size of the Irish diaspora and how much of it is concentrated in North America.
I have witnessed a bit of this internally in Canada with people from the East being sort of passive aggressive towards Easterners who go out West to work and no longer fit in.
No. 2539780
>>2539768>you guys are the problemFor existing outside of ireland and nice try. Read the thread
>>2539672 It's especially obvious if you don't live in a "cultural melting pot" like the usa how they are the only group who (actually) do this
No. 2539784
>>2539756I suspect that the Irish have a bit more of an innate hostility towards outsiders claiming Irish status due to their ongoing history with the UK and a fear of colonization. The Northern Ireland issue has been kind of shelved but could become a flashpoint again very easily. There's also probably a sense of irritation towards the descendants of people who, from their perspective, jumped ship when things got hard and left their ancestors to hold things together. Not saying they're necessarily right to feel this way but it is understandable.
I'm probably claiming more understanding than I should be but my family comes from a culture with a lot of historical grievances and these kinds of attitudes run deep.
No. 2539822
>>2539787Do you know much about his state and the town or city he lives in? There is a lot of variation across the United States, the entire country isn't a shooting gallery and some of the safest cities in the world are in the US. If you haven't grown up around firearms I can understand them being kind of frightening on principle but plenty of perfectly pleasant communities are armed to the teeth.
Alternatively, is it out of the question for him to move to Canada for work? We still have plenty of American transplants in my industry, they do alright up here.
No. 2539889
>>2539672This is exactly it. They can be Irish-Canadians, or Canadian of Irish Descent, but they can't be plain Irish. The issue with Irish-Canadians is that they're usually always descended from Irish groups that arrived in Canada pre-1922, yet they insist that they are Irish and not British.
>>2539801>how stateless it makes canadians feel when being "canadian" doesn't mean anything anymoreIt's never meant anything. Being "Canadian" has never meant anything ever before. Being "Canadian" is a government invention of the mid-20th century. Historically, Canadians identified as either British, or as Quebecois, Acadian, or Amerindian. Canada is a Britannic country first and foremost. It's only quite recently that the federal government has decided on it's status as a "cultural mosaic" or a "post-national state," but even that isn't a de facto reflection of the country.
>>2539589>Italian-canadians are allowed to be italian indefinitely, it must be niceMost Canadians of Italian descent are the children of Italians that immigrated to Canada in the mid-20th century, specifically the 1950s-1980s. Most are able to understand the Italian in some capacity. Every Canadian of Italian descent that I've met had grandparents that were born in Italy and had vast amounts of living family still in Italy.
Irish immigration to Canada was the most significant from 1830-1850, and about 65% of them were Protestants and identified as British-Irish, or even just British, rather than Irish. Comparing Irish-Canadians and Italian-Canadians is like comparing apples to oranges.
>>2539787>guns are scary!But Canada has a higher violent crime rate than America. Even with guns, America is statistically safer than Canada. You're more likely to be a
victim of a violent crime in Canada than in America.
No. 2539916
>>2539889There was a shared cultural identity prior to "post national state" and becoming the world's filthy rented mattress anon. Only a true redditard could attempt to deny/gaslight about that so I know you mean according to elites
>more replies to my postsI'm OP and don't care about this topic anymore. My biodad's mom was born in ireland and my grandfather's mom. I've noticed certain canadians always insist I'm british, even though both sides of my family immigrated directly from ireland and my grandmother's side are literal pioneers from scotland. It's just weird "no true scotsman" is about scottish people and not the irish, since they are the ones who are obnoxious about this and scottish people aren't. I hope they enjoy all the new "irish" folks living there, Canadians certainly don't feel welcome coming back so migrants it is
No. 2539918
What about the east coasters with deep Irish roots? Their accent and culture are very Irish.
>>2539787I think the fact you’re leaving your family should be thought about more. I was ok leaving mine in Canada because they have the money to come see me. Plus I’ve never really lived on my own before (at 28 lol) and needed independence.
No. 2539925
>>2539901>>2539916>There was a shared cultural identityExcept there wasn't. You could maybe, just maybe, argue that some provinces have unique cultures, but even that can be debated. The only cultures that historically exist in Canada are: Amerindian, Acadian, Quebecois, and Britannic.
There was never a "Canadian culture." All "Canadian culture" you speak about is really just cheap facsimile of Quebecois culture that was appropriated by the federal government and haphazardly applied to the British-majority areas to give legitimacy to Canada as a state independent of Britain. "Canadian culture" is cheap, it's consumerist, and it's confused.
>I'm OP and don't care about this topic anymoreThat's okay, but we can all still talk about the topic because you're not in control of the conversation.
>>2539920Stop posting this fricking video kek this is like the 3rd or 4th time, we get it! You can grow stuff in BC, wow! I hate you Bob Duncan shill.
No. 2540278
>>2539925Go back to Twitter and your gender studies I’m so tired of you brainless neoliberals regurgitating the same shill that caused our country to fracture.
Please tell me about how much you love trannies and shared bathrooms too plz <3
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>>2539920Welcome to Sidney
No. 2540301
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>>2540285Because a lot of people that live in this country have no idea of its history or its cultures, they only believe what the government tells them to believe, then they turn around and spew misinformation.
>>2540282Can you produce evidence of Canadian culture? Can you then distinguish that evidence of Canadian culture from British culture, Amerindian cultures, or Quebecois culture? Or is your headache too severe?
It's kind of interesting that up to the 1950s, only those in Quebec identified as "Canadian," everyone else identified as British. It's kinda funny that you can still see this effect today whenever a census is taken. It's almost like the culture of the Quebecois is an organic culture that the federal government co-opted in the wake of the fall of Empire to legitimize Canada as an independent state. It's almost like everything we think of as "Canadian" is actually "Quebecois" or "British."
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>>2540278Don't respond to the baiter when you get back anon
No. 2543981
>>2543975Btw, for the private MRI I got booked in like 3 days versus a 30 day appointment call for the CT scan. I was told my MRI/CT was urgent too and it’s crazy to see how slow paced it is to get booked for these things. I know some Canadians actually fly to the States to get their MRIs because an MRI wait time is so long here, even if you are in the urgent category.
If the states is like that for healthcare I’d probably move just for the pace of getting a diagnosis.
No. 2545697
>>2544668That’s honestly so depressing, hope your mom is okay now and good on her doctor recommending a private scan. I find doctors here are hit or miss, I got a male doctor who laughs whenever I bring up my hormones but that’s seriously a very big factor in women’s health that affects so many different parts of our body and its systems. I get brushed off constantly probably because I’m a sperg and have social anxiety and my high strung demeanour makes it look like I’m a hypochondriac who gets spooked by any tiny symptom (I’m not), I just want to get rid of my chronic pain and solve the root of my health problems. One doctor even prescribed me meds despite my protests, I changed my doctors super fast after that. I’m all for preventative healthcare and early diagnoses but that really conflicts with the Canadian healthcare system where they only care if you’re at deaths door already. At least in Japan they put all their government funding in healthcare and focus on prevention rather than curing/diagnoses, wish we had that approach here.
Btw I am in Alberta and it took me 4 years to get a GP. All the ones with openings are newbies FOB from other countries, strangely mostly Nigeria? Idk why they have so many spots open, probably because Canadians want to get a doctor who practiced and got educated in Canada or the States lol.
No. 2546580
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When the fuck is this going to stop? The RCMP already had leaked reports about worry that it'll result in blood. Why then do they keep importing MENAPT immigrants en masse? Is there any country not currently part of this ""plan""?
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Just tried the garlic bread from timmies, it's not good in case you were wondering. Obviously wasn't expecting much from tims but I figured how hard could it be to fuck up garlic bread? It's just a bun with a slice of melted cheese and some garlic seasoning on top, and they didn't even cut the bun. The garlic seasoning reminded me of boston pizzas seasoning they use for their pizza bread (which is really good) but the greasy cheese slice and thick ass plain bun ruined it for tims. 2/10
No. 2547154
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>>2547141>Are you guys okay?Not really, no. It's too much to post at once, but you can read this thread and the one before it to glimpse into the problems at large. In a lot of major cities now, job applicants need to be fluent in Punjabi or Hindi to be considered for any position, and Indians with work visas are considered before anyone else.
>>2547149I'm not sure how it is in other provinces, but here in Ontario, usually they stay 10-20 people per house. It's common here for a 2 bedroom apartment to be rented out to 8 or 10 people.
No. 2547209
>>2547159I live in one of the parts of Canada that has fewer Indians, but it's the same thing with MENA men. They just walk around in huge packs, as far as I can tell don't work because they are out in massive groups at every single time of day and day of the week, and half the restaurants that used to be in my area are now replaced with halal fast food chains. Never with any women or children. I used to laugh at people talking about how 'I don't even recognize my country anymore' and think they were bigoted racists but it's actually disorienting to walk around and never hear your native language spoken out in public and just see these huge roaming groups of 15-35yo moids with no women. I also see more and more women in burqa in my neighborhood and it kind of freaks me out.
>>2547154Even if they live 10-20 per house they're gonna run out of houses eventually. My friends who are punjabi (but born here, their parents immigrated in like the 80s or something) said that random Punjabi transplants kept going up to their parents' house and demanding they sell the house to them for sub-market rates because 'you need to help us out and we want to live in this neighborhood but nothing is for sale,' which surprised me because who just demands someone move out of their house because they 'need' housing? But it's obvious there isn't enough housing for all the people living here, even if people pack tightly into too-small living spaces.
No. 2547408
>>2547154Omg!? This is ridiculous… Aside from them taking over all the damn call centres, do you also get rickshas on the freezing evenings trying to get you in your cities? I just experienced it not long ago and I was shook, we don't have a climate here for this, it's bloody cold! I'm an eurofag and we're getting a lot of them lately in a tiny country but I just can't imagine what you guys are dealing with… These are terrifying numbers!
>>2547209It can radicalise you… Having gangs of them hanging around must be terrifying.
No. 2547797
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They started dumping these undesirables in rural areas once people started noticing that they flooded the main city centres with them. I forget what the term is that they use, but it's like "Small-Town Diversity Enrichment" or someshit. That's why small towns are covered in them, too. Nothing is the same. This government's greed will result in blood.
No. 2547816
>>2547797Yep exactly, I've heard this from people living in or visiting smaller towns/cities. It's been common in places like the UK for a while, sometimes putting as many migrants or more than the entire population of a small town up in a hotel or a defunct army barracks in rural areas so the town's infrastructure and resources are immediately overstressed but people in the big cities don't hear about it for the most part. I think there are more and more homeless encampments in small town Canada too.
Holy mother of god that graph though, how can we even stop this? I can't believe the average Canadian is not more alarmed by this - this isn't America with a 300+ million population, we only have 40 million people. Increasing the population by 5% per year when only a couple hundred thousand new homes get built at best and unemployment is already so high is economic suicide, even if you disregard immigrants so quickly.
No. 2547832
>>2547816>hopes to some day move to a smaller Canadian city or townYou really don't want to do this. You realize very quickly that Canada isn't a totally developed countries upon spending a prolonged period of time in a small town.
Toxic municipal water sources, opioid crises, high-crime rates, poor medical services, poor educational services, shoddy home construction, all of these are very common issues in small towns.
>>2547816I was visiting my parents' hometown recently, it has a population of about 4000. Every fast food restaurant was staffed with immigrants. The Walmart was also staffed primarily with immigrants. With 4000 people, there's at least 400-500 recent immigrants.
>how can we even stop this?We can't. The government made up its mind and the people keep voting for the same. I don't think
>>2547797 refers to permanent migration, so temporary residents are also included in this graph. The problem is that most of these temporary residents are planning to overstay their visas and permits and remain in the county illegally. IIRC, the department in charge of making sure immigrants leave on time only has about 200 employees, so I doubt they're gonna do an effective job.
>we only have 40 million peopleIn 2015 we had 35 million people, in 2025 we have about 42 million people, but the government has admitted that they may have under-counted by at least 2.5 million people.
No. 2547839
>>2547832I moved to a small town last year and none of that applies. The house I live in was built in the 70s or 80s and somehow looks brand new, is functional and not falling apart after the first year like "new builds" in the last city I lived in. Our neighbours are all canadian, kids play on the street
and at appropriate hours. The water has tested clean but does smell different than what I'm used to (kind of like clean lake water). There are no drug addicts - like at all. I haven't seen a single one. People smoke pot and drink at home, that's as bad as it gets. I have a school-aged child and she loves not being one of a thousand other faces and made new friends right away. The curriculum is the same so we're still getting "necessary" troon rights and native history revision but the students are normal and there are no "theriens" or kids coming out as trans every week. Anon should definitely move, just check out the town first. Any of the small towns that have like a "main street" with restaurants, shops, etc. are worth checking out imo
No. 2547900
>>2539538Everyone gatekeeps their heritage because diasporans are larpers. Claiming cultures when you don't even speak the language, never lived there and have 0 living relatives is pure larp. Your experience is objectively canadian so why should an Irish person want to share a label with you? Especially when every diasporan has schizo romanticized view of their "homeland".
>>2539589Chinese ppl do not consider Canadian diasporans the same as them.
No. 2547906
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>>2547887Nta but their reaction is probably bc of people posting about problems that aren't real or commonly shared by actual canadians in this thread all the time, like water quality. Something that is notoriously not that much of an issue for canadians, outside of dysfunctional reserves where money is allocated for these projects indefinitely, with no results ever materializing. Our journalists constantly report non-issues, so their take is fair tbh
>How does Canada’s water quality compare to that of its peer countries?>Canada ranks 4th out of 17 peer OECD counties for water quality and receives an “A” grade for performance. Two Scandinavian countries—Sweden and Norway—together with Austria rank ahead of Canada. Two countries receive “D”s for their overall water quality.>>2547900Thank you for rephrasing the other responses to this dead topic again anon. Chinese people don't say chinese-canadians aren't chinese, like the irish do but maybe there is another autist willing to discuss this again
since I am taking a much-needed break from this exact kind of retardation on lc, to enjoy my not-irish small town while the weather is warm and before the indians invade No. 2547943
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>>2547906Reserves are still part of Canada. Indigenous Canadians are still Canadians. Even outside of that, I'm talking about drinking water quality, and I believe your picture is more to do with overall water quality. The water quality in small towns is obviously going to be outweighed by larger municipalities when it comes to creating medians and means. I don't know why we're all going to pretend like there are never issues with drinking water quality in Canada.
>>2547932>That's a lieWhen will you realize that two people can have two different experiences that shape their understandings of the world? Your understanding is not the end all be all. Instead of trying to shut down conversation and accuse others of lying, maybe integrate their understanding into your own to create a complex idea of what the truth really may be.
No. 2548036
>>2548033Look on the bright side
nonnie, having a large surplus of single moids who feel alienated from the society they live in has never caused anything bad to happen.
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Jayhant Bandari is a self-hating Indian businessman who gave a whole presentation on the fact that Canada was destroying itself and would irrevocably become a third world country due to mass migration, particularly from India. He gave the speech to a mostly white audience at a pro-business seminar he hosts.
After the speech, impassioned whites in the audience said they disagree, they believe in the human spirit, that the Indians can assimilate, there were Sikhs at the Trucker protests, etc. To which the Indians, Bhandari and the other guy wearing a pro-Canada shirt, explained to them like a parent explains to a child the reality. The points they made were as follows
-White Canadian people underestimate the extent of the Great Replacement because their friendship circles and dating circles are almost all white, everyone is relatively racially segregated, the country is a lot more non-white than your personal experience suggests.
-We can read the foreign language journals as we speak Indian languages, Indians are laughing at you amongst themselves, they are talking down at your culture and laugh at the idea of assimilation. ("What does Canada have to teach us but a blonde girl on the prairie? We come from a rich 3,000 year old culture and theirs is only 150 years old") From what we've heard from the Chinese, their foreign language journals are the same.
-People reveal their true nature when they have power over you, the day will come soon when Indians have power over whites. I had to struggle as a private tutor when I first came here, and had to go into Somalian and Indian communities to teach. I was mistreated and abused by them when I first came here, I know what they're really like, you don't.
-During the trucker protests as covid was happening, their Indian relatives supported the government crushing the protestors. Not because of anything principled relating to Covid, but because they seen it as a worrying sign of white solidarity because of how white the protests were. They didn't want white people start to organize in other ways.
-You are very idealistic, nice white people, you have no idea what's coming. Idealistic people like you are the first thrown under the bus in these third world environments.
(Paraphrased)
The speech finished with a woman standing up and asking "Well you're not giving us much hope". And Jayant replied "there is no going back now, too many migrants hold citizenship and can vote. This is a warning about what will inevitably. In a few years time there will be blood on the streets."
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGvPetq7Clg No. 2548310
>>2547843I'm still being labelled as a super-racist or nazi by some people I know for not being positive about mass immigration, almost entirely by rich retards whose parents and grandparents lived in Canada and accrued enough wealth that they live in fancy neighbourhoods that have almost no immigrants living in them. Ironically, most of the people I know who are most openly and loudly against immigration are immigrants themselves kek, mostly the kind that migrated legally 10+ years ago and got normie high-demand jobs, but people won't call them nazis for holding that opinion, unlike me kek. I wish I didn't still have moralfags pissing their pants in my social/work circles, but alas.
>>2547855Every young person I talked to voted, I wonder who all the non-voting people are? It wouldn't have made much of a difference anyway, like
>>2547843 said all the big parties want more immigration, but it might have made at least a small difference.
>>2547856>>2547861>>2547878Nonnies, please, Canada has multiple towns. It is possible that some of you have lived in shitty ones and some of you have lived in nice ones. Unfortunately some cities in Canada also have opioid crises, terrible healthcare services and infrastructure, although I think mostly the water is good.
>>2548033I had no idea the sex disparity was that big, holy shit. I mean I knew most economic migrants are male because I live in an area where there are tons of them and they're never with any women, but that's a huge difference. No wonder the rates of violent crime have been going up, unpaired young disaffected moids with no hope of ever pairing up with women are always the most violent and unhinged demographic.
No. 2551387
>>2551282Damn really? Ive always liked calgary more than edmonton, although Ive spent a lot of time in calgary both in the summer and winter and really only a few winter days in edmonton so that probably contributes to my bias lol. All I remember about edmonton is the mall and how lackluster it is and the shitty winter driving kek. I have a lot of great memories in calgary though, the stampede, crossiron mills, river surfing in kananaskis, calaway park and the zoo
which is 100x less depressing than vancouvers zoo. I think if I absolutely had to leave BC i would pick calgary as my next option
No. 2551507
>>2551282I grew up in Calgary and I agree, the surrounding areas are gorgeous but the city itself is hideous and depressing. Although I think Edmonton is even worse, maybe because I spent more time in Calgary but whenever I visited Edmonton it seemed more depressing. Anyway most of the people I know that live there mostly just want to be close to nature and don't actually spend that much time in the city, which I actually understand now I've spent half my life living in a nicer city with way less access to nature.
>Their suburbs look like abandoned settlementsThe last time I was visiting I remarked upon this too, it really looks like endless rows of cardboard houses that were quickly put up for a temporary settlement and never taken down. Even notoriously ugly US cities with tons of strip malls and 'stroads' seem like they have more actual character than Calgary does.
No. 2551561
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>>2551282>Calgary takes the cake for ugliest big Canadian cityPretty much every city in this country looks the same with minor variations. They're all tied for the ugliest. I'm of the view that a "city" is more than its downtown core, and includes all the surrounding suburbs. If you use Google Maps' StreetView feature and look around different cities, you're really not gonna be able to notice any major difference between different cities.
The picture I attached is a combination of the suburban streets of 4 major cities. Can you tell which is which? Would you even be able to tell that photos are from 4 different cities?
No. 2551575
>>2551561Yes
The ones with brick homes are on the eastern side of Canada Quebec is obviously bottom left. Top right feels very Vancouver and bottom right is Calgary.
No. 2551600
>>2551561Of course there are some suburbs that are going to look the same in most Canadian (and US) cities - the outer areas with lots of new builds - but there's still a big difference in the overall look of the cities, not just the downtown core. For instance a majority of Montreal's population lives on the island, which is denser overall than most of cities like Calgary and Edmonton, lots of old trees and older brick/limestone buildings, old churches, narrower streets, lots of mixed zoning with street-level businesses under homes, etc. Almost all of Calgary outside the downtown region and some of the older wealthier suburbs are those cardboard looking new builds, wide streets with manicured lawns but not much plant life aside from poplars and a few evergreens, most businesses are in malls or strip malls rather than integrated into the living areas. TO also has a lot of inner 'suburbs' which are made of row houses or at least narrower single family homes out of brick and limestone, more gardens and older plant life, etc. plus lots of bigger park spaces, and even once you get into Hamilton or whatever the homes are not as cookie-cutter and samesamey looking as the ones in Calgary or Edmonton.
If I had to guess from your picture I'd say lower right is Calgary (but one of the more central/older neighbourhoods in Calgary near downtown), lower left is somewhere in Quebec (not downtown though), upper right is probably a wealthy area of Vancouver and upper left could possibly be Ontario? Upper left looks the least distinctive to me.
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>>2551575I feel like you looked at the little square on the bottom left of every picture to cheat the system. Surely you wouldn't have trouble doing it again if those squares were removed, like in this picture?
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>>2551640NTA but I'm guessing she was correct in which case you did not find places in similar 'areas' of the given cities. If the lower right is Calgary it is near downtown Calgary, which is not what the rest of Calgary looks like, and if lower left is supposed to be Montreal or Quebec it is not near downtown like lower right is. You'd have to actually find places representative of the same kind of area in each city. What's upper left?
Found a picture of what the majority of Calgary suburbs actually look like, here.
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This is what I’m talking about when I mention Calgary suburbs. People post Calgary suburbs onto r/urbanhell. Dont get me wrong, Edmonton has ugly suburbs too but when I lived there it was an easy city to navigate.
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>>2551700Here’s another pic
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>>2551700>>2551704It's pretty much the same anywhere. Suburbs are gonna suburb. Picrel is the Mississauga suburbs.
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>>2551730Mississauga is not an "exurb" kek look up what that word means.
>everyone I know who actually lives in the GTA consider themselves to live in 'the Toronto Area.'Just because they lie and say that they're from Toronto doesn't mean that they're from Toronto. People in Caledon, Ajax, even Hamilton will say that they're from Toronto when they're not. If someone is from Mississauga, then they're from Mississauga. It doesn't matter that Mississauga is a part of the GTA, it's still not Toronto. People like to pretend that the entire GTA = Toronto for social clout, but anyone in Toronto will tell you otherwise.
It's like me saying "Oh, yeah, I live in Calgary!" when really I live in Pirmez Creek (which is the same distance from Calgary as Mississauga is from Toronto).
No. 2551785
>>2551748I know that technically exurb usually means more rural, but colloquially people now use it to mean any 'distant suburb.' It's fine if you don't want to call it that but the point still stands that 'cities' that are in the GTA/house people who work in Toronto but commute by car are full of the shitty new build houses because a lot of people got priced out of the larger city. Lots of people I know who are 'from' i.e. grew up in Toronto now live in other GTA cities, but still work in Toronto proper, and consider themselves more-or-less to live 'around Toronto' rather than feeling a connection to the actual city they live in.
The difference between that and a city like Calgary that has always been 90% new build suburbs is there is nowhere nearby to go for Calgarians that is actually urban. That's why a lot of people consider it more depressing. It's not just the homes themselves but the fact that there is no 'city center' to which you can easily go that has arts, culture, etc.
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>>2552694>drakes neighbourhoodIrl drake has an ugly mansion in the Bridle Path iirc and it's full of obnoxious people with generational wealth or those siphoning wages from actual working canadians (real estate/rental income). Picrel near queen st e is the sweet spot and people live in (overpriced) typical canadian strawberry box homes and townhouses built before quality dropped off a cliff, which are completely useless to anyone with self-respect when divided into 2-3 "homes". The area has always attracted less ostentatious douchebags than drake and similar but is now mostly divided overpriced rentals - no idea what the shops are like now since Idc anymore but people complain that most places are boarded up or pot shops in the core now. The actual degrassi area is similar to queen st e but woodbine area has hosted literal gang wars for at least 10 years and the crime has spread to surrounding areas. There was a period of time where queen st. e was heavily policed and if you acted crazy or fucked up, you'd be quickly removed but I guess that's gotten worse too. So there's really no point in living in an expensive area in a city, if you're going to be stuck in the house most of the time anyways. The crowding during summer didn't bother me at all when we had true diversity of culture in the area, I'm going to guess that's lacking now but haven't visited recently
No. 2552737
>>2552712My friend lives in the Beaches area in a crappy apartment but the walkability of the neighbourhood is worth the crappy living conditions. Whenever I visit her we do fun things together some even free like walking along the beach and window shopping the cute shops.
My dream is to live in a Tudor or craftsman style 1920s/30s home in a neighbourhood like the one near High Park, Glen Stewart Park or Forest Hill neighbourhood. Although I’d like to move out west in Vancouver or Victoria but I’m not too familiar with those areas. Maybe even move to Stratford ON. From the GTA btw.
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>>2552737>walking along the beach>window shoppingThat's a fair trade off to most people under the age of 30 for a year or two, especially when the rent is cheap and the crowds have social skills and view women as people. I was interested in renting a whole town/house in this area and prices doubled (or tripled) during this time (2020-2022). Now rent in cities where unemployment is highest in
canada are similar to former beaches rates and smelly gang wars lakefront area is trying to be nu orange county. It looks like things aren't working out though, this house used to be sitting vacant at $7500/month and now it's sitting vacant at $6500, which is an improvement. I hope the area is getting better for your friend tho
No. 2552931
>>2552771I was thinking either this or like Tofino/Uclulet/Victoria. Except there's only old people there but idk, I'm starting to find most other Canadians not worth it to be around, so at least somewhere near nature would be nice. or the Sunshine Coast.
My friend owns a home in the Beaches and she doesn't actually like the area that much and keeps talking about possibly moving because it's 'boring' and there's 'nothing to do', although living near the waterfront would be my dream. If I had to pick a place in an urban area, maybe one of those victorian houses near Parc la Fontaine in Montreal.
This was a very depressing thought experiment because I can't actually think of somewhere I'd consider ideal even if I was the rich kek. This country is so fucked.
No. 2552969
>>2552931>I can't actually think of somewhere I'd consider ideal even if I was the rich There's not enough choices. The only cities we have with large enough downtown cores to feel like a real city are either Montreal, Toronto, and Vancouver. Everywhere else might look big on paper, but then when you visit it's just endless stretches of single detached homes, like that picture of Calgary that got posted up thread.
There's a reason why wealthy Canadians usually move overseas or at least have property overseas.
No. 2556783
>>2555292Nope they’re white and probably in a safer area.
>>2552638I’d buy a home in sicamous and the family business.
No. 2558686
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>>2555318There's a monster living in the lake called Memphré.
No. 2560335
>>2521532>live at home with their parents. Literally so many people I know are doing this. It's delayed adolescence.you really think people just do this because they don't work hard enough, and not because moving out is prohibitively expensive?
someone hasn't looked at rent prices or wages lately
No. 2561479
>>2560335They aren't mutually exclusive. People don't move out because rent is crazy and wages are shit, and so they delay their adulthood and stunt their growth. I'd rather be broke and on my own than slightly less broke and living at home.
>>2561005This is why dating sucks in most places too. I'm not attracted to people my age that have never left the nest and don't plan on ever moving out on their own. They act like they're still teenagers and the difference in maturity and personality between those that moved out of the house in their late teens and those that still live with mummy and daddy in their late 20s is palpable and very noticeable.
No. 2561749
>>2561479I agree completely. I have no actual issue moral or otherwise with people living at home with their parents for as long as they need, and I understand that it is hugely beneficial financially for many people, but from personal experience there is a huge gap between people who move out and who don't, which widens as time goes on. As a person who moved out pretty much the minute I turned 18, I already noticed just a year or two into college that people who were living with their parents (or even in dorms) were different than me in a lot of key respects, and by the time I hit my mid-20s it actually became hard to maintain friendships with people who were still living at home. They acted a lot more like kids, weren't comfortable doing a lot of the things I was comfortable doing, struggled to understand a lot of the concepts in life that were very familiar to people who lived on their own (like budgeting, doing all your own chores, keeping up with bills, having to go hungry sometimes, and many other things that were a normal part of life for us). I definitely could not have handled dating anyone who still lived with their parents, both because we'd have no privacy and because it felt like we were in such different life stages. I had a lot of coworkers in my mid-20s who still lived at home and they would constantly leave early and dump their work tasks on me and the other person at the job who lived on her own because 'mom called and I need to be back at 6 for dinner' or 'sorry my dad forgot to have my car serviced so I can't come in today,' I even had coworkers talking openly about how they were late because their mom forgot to put their clothes in the dryer. They would also spend pretty extravagantly on stuff like eating out and going to bars and act shitty and rude toward people who had to pay their rent instead of spending $100 at a restaurant. It just adds up to a really big difference in life experience and basic personality the longer people live at home, even if some people are a lot more independent than some of my aforementioned coworkers. I know this isn't the case for everybody that lives at home but a lot of the people I knew who lived at home actually ended up worse off financially once they moved out because they hadn't saved up and also never learned how to be frugal and budget. I think it's really important for adults who live at home to try to act as though they were living independently, but it's hard when you have that security blanket and your family still sort of treats you like a child.
I think the differences between a dating relationship when you live at home vs. have your own home are huge. Of course don't go to some moid's place on a second date but if you're living alone and poor you can start meeting at each other's places and cooking/watching movies together or whatever pretty early in the relationship essentially for free, without parents and siblings eavesdropping or pushing you to leave at 9pm. Not to mention physical intimacy, I have no idea how people who both live at home can date and have a sex life but I guess people manage.
>>2561520I feel the same way whenever I visit my parents, except kinda the opposite. My mom is super OCD about chores and whenever I visit I spend hours everyday doing housework that I normally skip in my own home (like she wants the bathrooms cleaned multiple times a day, three square meals a day which I am in charge of preparing, all clothing washed even if you just wore it for 1-2 hours on an errand, etc) and have to go to bed early or she will be very anxious. It feels like I have half the available time whenever I visit because so much of my life is spent doing chores to my mom's specifications whereas in my normal life I can skip a lot of unnecessary tasks. I don't even think I could have passed school or held down a full time job living with my mom kek.
No. 2564639
>>2564430I mean it's a specific situation but I understand her complaint. Being the friend that's responsible for transport can get really annoying really fast. Not everyone wants to stay in the same town for every single hangout.
>>2564495Everyone should know how to drive. It's an important life skill and most people learn how to do it before they turn 18. We aren't living in a tiny European country where we can get away with not having a car. When someone that's over the age of 20 tells me that they can't drive, it leaves me with a negative impression
>>2564573Car rentals exist for a reason. Maybe someone that lives in downtown Montreal or Toronto doesn't want to own a car, if they have the funds to rent one out when they need one then it's not really a big deal.
No. 2564663
>>2564573A lot of people live in places where there aren't many places to go hiking or explore the countryside nearby, so most of their life happens in cities. And if they live in a city center owning a car and having a parking space for it is often more expensive than rent. I would never say someone is not a proper adult if they pay rent, bills, have a job, etc. but just live in a city centre without a car. I know many people like this who could/would in no way be considered not adults. My family lives in Europe and out of like 10 family members only 2 learned to drive, which were people who had lived in other places with more of a car culture, but all those people are real adults who had many jobs, raised families, had important accomplishments but just didn't drive because it wasn't the norm.
>>2564639Being the friend responsible for transport does sound annoying, but it's not some normal default part of adulthood to go to cottage country for extended vacations. That's a hobby/lifestyle largely associated with wealthier people in certain specific regions of Canada.
>We aren't living in a tiny European country where we can get away with not having a car.Where I live you absolutely can, and a lot of my friends who have gotten cars have sold them again because, like I said, having a parking spot cost more than rent. There are so many car share services now it's not entirely necessary to own a car even if you need to drive sometimes. In many locations it's just a luxury similar to owning your own home.
No. 2564692
>>2564663>it's not some normal default part of adulthood to go to cottage country for extended vacationsIt kinda is though? Not extended vacations, but almost everyone I know has been camping, or has rented a cottage for a weekend at one point or another. Fishing, hiking, enjoying the outdoors in general is a very default Canadian thing.
>A lot of people live in places where there aren't many places to go hiking or explore the countryside nearbyAlmost every single person in this country lives within a 1-2 hour drive from the countryside or wilderness.
>My family lives in Europe and out of like 10 family members only 2 learned to driveBut that's Europe. We're talking about Canada.
>>2564649I just think that learning to drive is a normal milestone in adolescence. Cars are a part of life, it's important for everyone to be know how to drive one. It's like learning how to operate a can opener - nobody is saying you
have to eat canned foods, but it's kinda embarrassing if you're an adult and you don't know how to use one. IME, the people that I meet that don't know how to drive are usually sheltered or spoiled.
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>>2564962The shitty neo-serf lifestyle gov wants for canadians is ride-sharing to public parks during timeslots rented months in advance. I think every canadian should be able to achieve a cottage if they want one, since our birthrates are
1.33% and tons of the older canadians are aging out of ownership. I would love to share a family cottage with my sister, then we could just share rides together to visit. My current family cottage is about to be inherited by a landlord that exists in my family, so it is useless to me. Also reposting for
>Canada records its lowest fertility rate for 2nd year: StatsCanHadn't checked on this in a couple years, 2% would have been replacement level so of course we're below that now
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>>2564692>It kinda is though?Maybe for some Canadians in certain locations or in wealthier social strata but it's not the norm for all Canadians. I know plenty of people who never have, and even if you 'have been' camping, hiking, or rented a cottage once, it doesn't mean it's a regular staple in your life.
>Almost every single person in this country lives within a 1-2 hour drive from the countryside or wilderness.From the countryside sure, but not from 'cottage country' or a place that you would actually be able to go on an extended trip or hike.
>But that's Europe.Larger Canadian cities are similar in terms of transit use and lack of parking if you live close to a city centre, which happens to be where most of the country's population is concentrated.
>I just think that learning to drive is a normal milestone in adolescence. Well if you think that, it wouldn't be a thing signifying adulthood anyway. Adolescence isn't adulthood.
>>2564962Tbh most of the people under 35 I know who have cars live with mommy and daddy who bought them their cars, get their cars serviced, and have garages. Most of the people who moved out live in apartments and car ownership isn't financially feasible for them. It actually is common to learn to drive in adolescence, but it's common for the people who learned to drive in adolescence to stop driving once they're adults because they can't afford the car and single-family-home lifestyle living on their own. When you learned to drive, was it in a car you owned or a family-owned car? Did you pay for your drivers ed yourself or did your parents? If you did earn money for your own drivers ed, did you also have to pay for your own college out of pocket or did your parents help out? Did you pay your own car insurance when you were a minor or did your family?
>>2564996It would be great if everyone in Canada was wealthy, yes, but that isn't the reality. Most young people in Canada are unlikely to even be able to own homes, let alone second vacation properties.
>our birthrates are 1.33%Our population has increased by over 4 million in the last 5 years regardless, and only up to 250k new residences are built a year.
No. 2565129
>>2565088There was like one generation in Canada (and in the US and parts of Western Europe) that had a very high living standard due to wealth accumulation from the post-war boom and second phase of industrialization, but that was a minor blip in history. It is very unlikely to happen again anytime soon, especially with the way the Canadian government behaves. Having a family cottage is not a norm, has not been the norm (even for boomers/gen X) and like another anon said thinking it is just makes you sound very out of touch with the economic situation of most Canadians.
>especially parents, who sacrificed by working instead of having a million kids to provide for them in their old agAre you aware of what Boomers and Gen X are actually like? Who they voted for? Most of them want to spend all their money before they die rather than leaving an inheritance to their children. Where is this 'sacrifice' in the older generations? They willingly voted for the government that manipulated the housing market and mandated mass immigration, because they don't want to pass the wealth on.
No. 2565288
>>2565065AYRT
>Larger Canadian cities are similar [to European cities] in terms of transit useI don't think Canadian public transport, even the best, is comparable at all to the public transport in Europe.
>From the countryside sure, but not from 'cottage country' or a place that you would actually be able to go on an extended trip or hike.I don't get the difference? There's wilderness everywhere and places to hike and camp or do whatever else everywhere. I think you're focused on the cottage element for some reason, but that's not really what we were talking about.
>I know many people that have never hiked onceCome on kekkk
>You have to be wealthy to go campingAre we all supposed to pretend that you have to make 100 thousand dollars a year to go camping now? Be for real. Camping is not some luxurious experience, you can literally buy a tent from Canadian Tire for $100.
>>2564870Everyone can think different things.
No. 2565335
>>2565329I replied to your post
>>2564692 about learning to drive being a natural milestone in adolescence but the general consensus in a city like new york is that it's not. Considering toronto has higher rents and comparable taxes to san francisco, where public transportation is dependable or even lower tier cities like cincinnati, where working people can easily afford condos or homes downtown or near (reliable, uncrowded) public transit - they don't have to drive. It's a milestone if you live in the suburbs, in a big house. Canadians don't get either of these things and some anons are ignoring this and pretending these things are normal, when they are fucked up beyond belief
No. 2565346
>>2565335Knowing how to drive doesn't mean you have to drive, or even own a car. Everyone should know how to drive because cars are a part of our society and you never know when you might need to use one. It's not about whether or not you drive or don't drive, or whether you have a car or don't have a car, it's just the knowledge and skill of driving itself that is important. It's like not knowing how to use a telephone or not knowing how to tie your shoelaces. Yeah, you can rely on letter mail and Velcro, but why? I think everyone around the world, in Canada, in NYC, in San Francisco, in Europe, wherever, should know how to operate a motor vehicle because you never know when you might be in a situation where you have to operate one. It's not a political statement or an ideological stance. I don't know why this is such a prickly topic.
No. 2565598
>>2565264AYRT, I'm not saying it's theoretically impossible for it to be recreated, I'm saying it's highly unlikely in our lifetimes, especially considering the way our government acts and their priorities. I don't have a 'we are evil colonizers' mentality at all (I'm from a colonized ethnicity, not a colonizer ethnicity and I don't subscribe to colonizer guilt just because I live in Canada which I think is retarded). I just think it's unrealistic to expect that, the way things are going, 'all Canadians' are ever gonna have a cottage, especially since 'all Canadians' never did have cottages. Second homes were always something associated with the upper and uppermiddle class.
>>2565288Some Canadian cities' public transportation lines have been rated by international bodies as comparable with many major European cities, and many other European cities also have lower-rated public transport, but it is still used frequently by urban dwellers and many of them still don't have cars.
>I don't get the difference?I could easily drive two hours and get to 'the countryside' aka someone's private property, like farmland, but I would need to drive significantly further to get to a public campground that's actually in nature (as opposed to some field with a bunch of RVs parked in it) or a decently long hike.
>Come on kekkkI don't know what's so hard for you to believe about the fact many people have never properly hiked or camped. A 1 hour quick walk down a trail doesn't count.
>You have to be wealthy to go campingThat's not what I said. I said taking extended trips (or even weekend trips) to cottage country and renting cottages is something typical of wealthier people. Since you felt comfortable misquoting me so egregiously, let me actually quote what was said:
>it's not some normal default part of adulthood to go to cottage country for extended vacations>It kinda is though? Not extended vacations, but almost everyone I know has been camping, or has rented a cottage for a weekend at one point or another.>Maybe for some Canadians in certain locations or in wealthier social strata but it's not the norm for all Canadians. No. 2565609
>>2565598>Canada is indeed rich in mineral resources, holding a prominent global position in the production of several minerals and metals. It's a leading global producer of potash, a key component in fertilizers, and ranks among the top five for diamonds, gold, and uranium. Additionally, Canada is a significant player in the production of copper, nickel, and cobalt, and hosts advanced mineral projects for rare earth elements, lithium, and other critical minerals. Here's a more detailed look at Canada's mineral wealth
>Canada holds the world's third-largest proven oil reserves, primarily in the oil sands of Alberta. This vast resource makes Canada a significant player in global oil production and exports. The oil and gas sector is a major contributor to the Canadian economy, generating substantial government revenue and supporting numerous jobs. >Canada's forest sector is a significant source of wealth, contributing substantially to the national economy, particularly through the production of forest products and exports. In 2022, the sector contributed $33.4 billion to Canada's nominal GDP, representing 1.2% of the total. This contribution is even more significant when considering the sector's impact on trade, as it accounts for about 6% of Canada's total exports. That is weird, why does canada seem so poor, desperate and needy?
>Canada exports a significant portion of its natural resources for processing, with the United States being the primary destination. While Canada is a major producer of energy resources like oil and natural gas, and minerals, a substantial amount of these resources are sent to the US for refining and other processing activities before being re-exported or used domestically No. 2565630
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>>2565626E-democracy! Basically replacing as much of the government with ai as possible but the explanation is long, complicated and in it's early stages imo. I think it's funny that we're so scared of ai taking our jobs when bloated gov should be the first on the chopping block
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>>2565346>you never know when you might be in a situation where you have to operate one.No, I'm quite certain that the opportunity will never arise.
Do you think people just walk around minding their own business when suddenly they are teleported into a ghost town 2,000 miles away and have nothing but a car to drive back to civilization with?
No. 2565886
>>2565630This is the most retarded wishy washy wikipedia page i've read in a while. Old people ascribe terms to fucking everything, and yet people often mock gen z for calling everything a aesthetic, core etc. All AI and tech hype twiddlers roads lead to sci fi escapist bullshit. Shit for brains moids who believe in AI need to look up the Barnum effect and the Eliza effect. As usual the emotional gender is more emotional, fantastical and the least rational.
>It collects social, economic, and cultural data to enhance democratic engagement. Word salad to say "E democracy" is just data collection.
Also under the controversy section
>Information and communications technologies can be utilized for both democratic and anti-democratic purposes. For instance, digital technology can be used to promote both coercive control and active participation.[56]
>The vision of anti-democratic use of technology is exemplified in George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four. Critiques associated with direct democracy are also considered applicable to e-democracy. This includes the potential for direct governance to cause the polarization of opinions, populism, and demagoguery.[56] I kekd. I didn't realize fictional sci fi is a legit citation and reflection of reality, Wikipedia. Its in the controversy section lel. Wikipedia cited this rando social science moids blog
https://www.martinhilbert.net/democracy.html/topkek
The remaining problems are self made male problems that would exist without technology or "e" anything. censorship - males controlling narratives and pedoporn out of there own shame and fake aversion, populism - males seizing power and control, social media manipulation (also the same as populism) its retardedly redundant to include it twice. Would exist regardless of medium. Stopping internet piracy - greedy moid corporation problem and moid coomsuption problem. Moids just really want to blame their chimp outs and reaches for power on anything but themselves. They all jump with glee to use technology as an excuse to do vile shit.
No. 2566547
>>2565645The next thing same as the current thing? The exact same oligarchs setting the agenda now run the major AI programs. Removing as many people as possible from the equation on the lower levels would just reduce checks and balances.
>>2565866 is right about this.
>>2565780Kekkkk, you never know!
>>2565799First the thread was reddit tier because people didn't believe Canada would suddenly become a country with no poverty or working-class people, and then it was reddit tier because you got called out on saying it's just a normal part of everyone's life to take extended cottage country vacations? Do you have another insult for middle class people who aren't inheriting cottage or is 'wahh redditors' the only one you got?
>>2565916I think it's a good take too, although I think it's slightly overstating how many Canadians have soured on the government's activities. They still got re-elected so there's still a major chunk of the population that doesn't see this as a big issue, but it's clearly dwindling. Canadians are still on the whole pretty polite and timid about everything that's happening, so I wouldn't say the frog has fully awoken from its slumber. But I agree with the first half of her post anyway, and have actually seen immigrants saying this stuff directly - one told my mom flat-out "your people deserve this, because they clearly view themselves as inferior to us too, we would never be so weak about protecting our own culture."
(infighting) No. 2566689
>>2565346>I don't know why this is such a prickly topicBecause people are self conscious about their independence. You’re never free until you own a car and learn to drive it. You are restricted to the bounds of your city relying on uber or public transit.
>you never know when you might need to use one.Apocalypse, natural disasters, and driving a loved one to an ER are some things I can think of. An ambulance might come too late and the person you wanted to save dies of a heart attack or something. Every second counts in an emergency.
No. 2566823
>>2566689NTA and I'm just being pedantic here but if you don't own a car, driving a loved one to the ER isn't happening anyway whether you have a driver's license or not. I think this is a silly hypothetical, and not because I feel self conscious since I did learn to drive in adolescence (manual, no less), but because I just think it's not true. I know plenty of city dwellers who never learned to drive as teenagers (or in many cases, ever) because no one around them owned a car, and the amount of time/money it would take to learn to drive without having access to your own car was considered a luxury. If you live in the suburbs or a rural area, sure most people will have access to cars as teenagers and as adults, but if you're an urbanite with no space for one, it's not going to be very relevant to your life. It's silly to suggest that someone who, e.g., has worked since age 18, paid their own bills and raised a family isn't a real adult because they don't own a car. Conversely, plenty of non-adults do own or have access to and drive cars. The OP who said that never answered who bankrolled her driver's ed, car, insurance, and college, but most people who have cars and licenses as adolescents did not pay for them themselves, their parents did. It's a weird yardstick for independence from family.
No. 2567023
>>2566823>it's not going to be very relevant to your lifeCars are ever-present in every Canadian city. It's confusing when urbanites act like people in Toronto or Montreal don't drive when there are cars all over those 2 cities and people drive in them everyday. They were even the first markets that ride-sharing services test-piloted in Canada.
>>2566864>it's just another good skill to have.Exactly. This is my viewpoint too. Why wouldn't a person want to know how to drive a car? It's just a basic skill. It doesn't have to be this whole political thing.
No. 2567092
>>2566689>Apocalypse, natural disasters, and driving a loved one to an ER are some things I can think of. An ambulance might come too late and the person you wanted to save dies of a heart attack or something. Every second counts in an emergency.And where do you think someone is going to get a car even if they have a driver's license? Retard.
>>2567023>It's confusing when urbanites act like people in Toronto or Montreal don't drive when there are cars all over those 2 cities and people drive in them everydayBegging you to use your critical thinking skills here. Those cars you see most likely belong to suburbanites who live outside the city but still use their cars to commute to work in the city. The average person who live within the downtown core is not going to own a car because as other anons have pointed out it's a luxury that not many can afford in that situation. Don't know why you're so hyperfixated on this topic. It's such an autism trait to be unable to comprehend that someone could possibly have a different lifestyle and way of doing things than you.
No. 2567203
>>2567132yep! i just applied for my work visa today and I should be leaving by the end of july. i'm super excited to finally get outta here.
>>2567092>every car that you see in the city actually belongs to someone that doesnt live in the citykek
No. 2567698
>>2567494No, she's right.
>>2567563They should stop staffing entirely with TFWs instead. Kek at them not giving you cream in the iced capp at all, godspeed nonna maybe one day you'll satisfy your craving
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>>2567563It's because Tims is basically a slave scheme now.
>Achieve PR status>Buy rights to franchise a Tims>Using connections from home country, advertise your business to PR-seekers.>Get paid by TFWs to hire them (on average $20k for a work contract).>Pay them less than minimum wage (sometimes as low as 4 dollars an hour).>Have personal pseudo-slaves until they can achieve PR status.>Make $$$>RepeatThis is why the top 3 jobs for LMIAs relate to fast food, because fast food chains are the easiest way for people to commit immigration fraud and pseudo-slavery. Some Tims franchise owners have made millions of dollars through this scheme.
>>2567714I miss those jelly-filled timbits, I was disappointed when they took them off the menu a few years ago. I heard they brought them back for a limited time recently, but I haven't supported Tims in many years so I didn't get a chance to try them.
>It's the same at McDonald'sI don't know if it's different where you are, but here McDonalds really curbed back on the TFW thing. IIRC there was an internal memo from HQ that warned franchisees about the ramifications of immigration fraud. McDonalds tries a lot harder to maintain its image than Tims does.
No. 2567914
>>2567203>every car that you see in the city actually belongs to someone that doesnt live in the citykek
Well it's true. Where do you think most professional white collar jobs are going to be? In Hamilton?
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https://www.cp24.com/news/2025/06/17/toronto-area-school-bus-driver-seen-in-vehicle-with-lolitas-line-sign-in-window-removed-from-route/Troons that work in the education sector are always the grossest. First that troon wearing a Z-cup breastplate to teach woodworking, now this?