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This thread is dedicated to all and any fandom discourse. Global rules apply: don't infight, report and ignore bait, etc.
Current topics include, but are not limited to:
> Proshipping vs Antishipping> Ao3 Censorship and TOS> Slapfights between slash, femslash, and het shippers> Carrds, DNIs and Call-out Threads> Whitewashed/blackwashed/colorist fanart drama> ‘[Insert Sexuality/Gender]-Coded’ Characters> Debates over death of the author> Stalking/harassment experienced by actors/creatorsRelated threads:
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>>1978406Fujocoomer cringe:
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>>2123876 No. 2154895
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>>2154164Fucking hater I like those retard cats
No. 2154930
>>2154922No, not manwha. I don’t have examples but yumes tend to have a habit of drawing their men and women looking very flat? It’s as if they grew up copying shojo anime from the TV but never practiced drawing 3D forms or adding depth, which is pretty crucial to rendering a sex scene. There’s nothing arousing about staring at a bunch of flat shapes; I want to
feel the weight, the fleshiness, the sensitivity of skin-to-skin contact… does that make any sense?
No. 2154946
>>2154286>idk why this website acts like lesbians are innocent puritan angelsHow do you even get this from nonas saying lesbians likely aren't the ones making male x cuntboy "yaoi" lol, does the idea of people disagreeing with you on your assumptions about lesbians threaten you that much?
Meanwhile the argument started in the first place because of anons immediately blaming it on lesbians "invading" and "ruining" het female spaces with degen troon shit without even considering the obvious culprit, self-inserting TIFs (and same anons ignored the first time they were proven wrong anyway
>>2153574 ). So try considering that your precious het female spaces can be ruined by your own too.
My last post on this argument I swear kek No. 2154972
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seeing wokies desperately cape for dustborn is so fucking embarrassing, It's insane the amount of mental gymnastics these bellends go through to appeal for "modern audience" that don't exist, it's just their annoying friend group, every "minority" is watching anime or mcu crap
No. 2154989
>>2154906This goes against everything in my fujo playbook. The point about yaoi is that you don't need to self-insert. The point about yaoi is that you don't need to drag yourself into it. It is vacation from the works where you are expected to self-insert. It honestly puzzles me so much about the TIF phenomena, if you don't want to be a woman, why do you want to use the female genitalia?
>>2154984SAME. I think we're more common than people think though, especially western slash fandom seems to have been more built around the idea that women enjoy seeing their men get railed too, I think maybe because we already have het romance novels that are not too rapey.
Japanese fandom has had the problem of female sexuality being repressed, women are expected to put up a fight, for a bit of a show, even if they want it. So it makes sense that they'd be more into the 'projecting on the uke', even if projecting on the semes do exist and have likely grown more prominent in recent years.
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>>2154972The game looks very shit and cringe(they also have a song that tries to jab at rightwingers by.. bragging about great replacement theory???) but I feel like 80% of the controversy would be mitigated by taking out the vitiligo chick(although the black femc would get hate regardless), everyone else looks relatively normal while she looks like an amalgamation of every sjw oc meme and caught everyone's attention. Every time I saw this game brought up pre-release was to make fun of her design. Kind of feels like this game was designed to be ragebait kek.
No. 2155035
>>2154906speak for yourslef lmao. i don't need to self insert, i have enough imagination to read something about people that aren't me without needing to relate everything back to myself. never felt the need to read about cubtboys either bc that ain't yaoi. you got tif brainrot not fujo brainrot.
>>2154974>>2154989based and true. cuntboy shit isn't yaoi it's just straight.
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>>2155035>>2154974Nyart but how tf did you read any of that from her post… she literally said cuntboys are drawn by TIFs for self-insert purposes because they're straight women in denial, not that cuntboy is yaoi.
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>>2155025Norwegian tax payer funds, at that. One would wonder how a bunch of white scandis would get so deep on american liberal politics.
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>>2155059The game's combat is centered around twitter mechanics. It almost seems like a parody.
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>>2155057>we are the new porn????(?)?
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>>2155062FemC
triggering herself in a dialogue.
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>>2155075Fat girl with vitiligo is also both Indian and a practicing Muslim who prays in-game, as well as being a hypersexual bisexual. There's a long scene around the campfire where she talks about "tasting sausage" with the albino enby.
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>>2154972>>2155007>>2155083It reminds me of this thread, basically their forever coping with the fact that they come from wealthy backgrounds and aren't really tough or attractive
https://twitter.com/0xAlaric/status/1606529569166688258 No. 2155103
>>2155051>cuntboys>self inserting>tif chaserwoof
>>2155059is this a parody? it feels way too on the nose. then again i guess some wokies do like the post-ironic, pseudo-self-aware shit.
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>>2155059Apparently they received that funding before changing the direction of the game? I can't find much info on that though
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>>2155007I get that it's pointed out in the scene that the song isn't very good, but fuck is this a flat and awkwardly layered piece. I don't get how this
isn't parody, everything about this is framed so unfavourably towards this big (introductory? since we get the title drop) scene and then the guard guy sounds too calm and reasonable in comparison.
>>2155115No it is very weird, and I wonder if they partly picked it so they could reuse (possibly stock) animations because none of the movements match up with the music (especially with the two 'exotic' instruments). Sure, this isn't an actual music/rhythm game, but usually if you're going to do a scene like that you'd at least
try to have convincing, if not accurate, movements. I think one of the regular guitars is supposed to be a bass too but idk it's all so shit kek
No. 2155199
>>2155194The funniest part to me is that they're supposed to be a punk rock band. Absolutely none of that is punk rock.
My favourite bit is rhyming "new porn" with "newborn". How did this get past multiple people and QA checks? Gives me the same energy as this enby singer talking about her kids being lingerie toddlers.
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>>2155206I've known people like this irl and everything they do is driven by their own insecurity about their own identity, these people are very 'culturally white' meaning they are exactly the same as any other white liberal and have trouble fitting in with people of their own ethnicity, so they overcompensate a lot and end up creating self racial caricatures, picrel is an Indian who argues that is a 2 hour long essay about how astronomy and even space travel are white supremacist coded
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Do you think Japanese fandom cares this much about girls pretending to be european
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>>2155280>Having reading comprehension this badI meant Japanese girls pretending to be european girls ie: otome games
No. 2155290
>>2155287Obviously, I think the same thing goes for westerner girls who larp as Japanese because of their ships. They moreso want to be a pretty anime character version of the race.
I just thought the OP post about 'YOU CAN'T USE JAPANESE NAMES' was funny since it's fairly common for the reverse to happen in otome.
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"Cringe culture is dead!" Posts are always funny to me since it always comes with the OP stepping on eggshells and adding a bunch of caveats of "B-BUT IT'S OKAY TO MAKE FUN OF THESE TYPE OF PEOPLE!"
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>>2155299Jojifuku is literally an ageplay fetish for bodycheckers by the way, like it literally started out in porn studios. I have no idea how people convinced themselves that it's a 'totally legit jfashion' and not just a niche porn genre.
>>2155300That's almost always what these posts devolve into, because they're insecure as fuck about their interests.
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>>2155304something something it's non sexual
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losers
No. 2155381
>>2155270>they overcompensate a lot and end up creating self racial caricaturesI know some people like this too. They call me whitewashed but that makes no sense. I'm just a normal person with my own personality while they all force themselves into stereotypes which is weird as fuck. It's kind of like women who force themselves to perform hyperfemininity because it means they're a real woman and if you don't do the same, they think you must be a tranny or nonbinary. I know I sound insane but it's the exact same shit. To be a real brown girl you apparently have to:
>enjoy wearing cultural clothing>love spicy food>wear only gold jewelry >preach about palestine 24/7>whine about colonisers >whine about people calling it chai tea or naan bread >put coconut oil in your hair>etc.I don't do/like any of these things and according to them I'm "trying so hard to be white" KEK. No, I'm just getting on with my life without being obnoxiously cringe.
I was with my childhood friend when some woke Norwegian lady who was handing out leaflets came up to us talking about voting and stuff. She said how politicians were racist for trying to stop illegal immigrants from Muslim and brown countries and my friend was engaged in conversation with her while I awkwardly listened to them, cringing internally. My friend started talking about muh colonisers and how they "raped and pillaged our country and people" and how it was right that immigrant scrotes were taking over the UK now and that they deserved it. I just wanted to tell her that it didn't matter that British people did all that, they had the most power at the time so of course they did it. In an alternate universe, if it was nigerian/chinese/arab/etc. people who had the power, they'd be the ones colonising everyone else. The problem is with MOIDS obsessed with power. Moids are the ones who colonise and rape. Yeah it's terrible what the British did to South Asia but that doesn't mean that we get "revenge" because at the end of the day, it's women who are gonna suffer from the mass migration of scrotes from backwards cultures. Also, it's not like the Britain invented rape kek. If they never came to rape brown women, brown men would still be raping brown women. I don't know what the fuck my friend and that woke Norwegian lady were even thinking when they tried defending brown males. Especially my friend kek, as brown women we know firsthand how bad brown males are, yet you still want them to come over here too? Are you insane? Why be loyal to your ethnicity when you should be loyal to your sex instead.
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>>2155379Whenever I look into zionism rumours it turns out to be nothing. Amy Schumer said this and Jennifer Lawrence praised her for navigating so well through the hate. Zoomers complete black and white thinking and herd mentality is so scary, they literally just repeat whatever they see someone else say
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Today on "moids STFU".
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>>2155007>>2155065if you've ever been a part of any leftist group, you will have encountered these types. without the fail, the one's who most look like IRL reddit mods, will be the ones advocating for violent revolution. People are usually confused and embarrassed most of the time, which they interpret as fear of them. funnily these are the same people who will unironically consider physical fitness to be literal fascism and eugenics. So they won't even train either.
No. 2155861
>>2155819>>2155828When we had to use Anime Web Turnpike (Anipike) to find a new anime.
>>2155832Still, is always like these people's point is "women at (x) age cannot have fun or a fandom or friends". Even women fangirling for The Beatles were seemed like weirdos for liking a "boy band".
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Somehow I'm not at all surprised at autistic troons with Peter Pan syndrome trying to drive older people (always women) away from fandoms. Picrel is a pretentious tranny "filmmaker" obsessed with capeslop posting about his magical estrogen body thinking he'll just magically stop caring about his shitty X-men comics and talking about them online at 30. Why are the people most likely never to develop mentally past 15 the first ones to complain about the 30 year old boogeyman being online when they'll be one of them in five years? People inside glass houses just shouldn't throw stones.
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I don't have much to say, I just wanted to compain.
P3's ending is wonderful and the MC's choice at the final battle is so hearfelt (specially considering his backstory and taking into account what the devs said about how much he loves his mother and her being the reason of his actions and affection etc etc, a topic I love to talk about but this thread isn't the one for that), and it sucks people see all that and go "Do you know what we have to emphasize on a piece about his love and sacrifice? Titty chop"
No. 2156180
>>2156162What gets me is that especially these people who are self-admittedly autistic will be eating their words in just a few years as they think they will never be "one of those cringe 30-year old fandom millenials" when the era of Gen Alpha making fun of them is just around the corner. I genuinely don't know if they think it's the barely functional and broke 21-year olds putting together all the big communities and conventions or if they just appear from thin air and I don't know what they consider the proper activity for those 30-40-year olds to pass the time.
>>2156178At least the kweer theory holds more water because a lot of minorities had to learn how to go online to meet likeminded people from across the country/globe since as a gay person your dating scene was nonexistent but the kids being major players in fandom one was never real and still isn't, all of them are passive consoomers who are still too immature to produce anything truly meaningful.
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>>2156199>>2156186It's driven by sheer insecurity, they just can't accept they like an icky heterosexual ship (even though 99% of slash ships are just heterosexuality with extra steps). so they just reverse the dynamics by saying the man gets pregnant and is just a "ball of sunshine", which they don't realize is reversing their sexes but not heterosexuality, you can feel their hatred for the female body when they talk about mpreg
No. 2156209
>>2156178>It's especially hilarious in popular East Asian fandom, where married middle-ages with woman with children produce by far the most content (speaking from experience here).I know, it's so funny that you just need to check twitter to know that because some of them will be post their yaoi art or 100 pages long AU fanfics about their husbandos on twitter and between these posts they're sometimes tweet about getting married or how they just gave birth to a healthy baby and post more fanfic chapters as soon as they recover from that. But seeing it irl makes it even more obvious, I went to a con in Japan and if you want to buy a R18 doujinshi you have to show your ID card or anything else with your birth date, and the longest lines were for the trashiest yaoi doujinshi. Teenage girls still had plenty of choice though but they were definitely a minority. I talked to an artist there with my shitty Japanese skills and we're both in our 30s, grown women with a degree and a job spending our free time making or reading shit about our favorite pairing.
>>2156180> these people who are self-admittedly autistic will be eating their words in just a few years as they think they will never be "one of those cringe 30-year old fandom millenials"It's kind of already happening, is it why there are more and more posts online about how cringe culture is bad and dead? Can't wait for them to either become mature or shut up.
No. 2156214
>>2156178They don't think about it probably, because the only millenials that engage with these weird losers are usually gross creeps. I'd like to see the shock on their faces when a lot of the good fanart, cons, fanmerch, etc. just poof out of existence because "well, we're too old for fandom~". Really just shows they don't step out of their discord echo chamber.
>>2156209The irony is the "Cringe culture is dead XD!!!!" is trying to recreate some old facet of internet subculture like old school fandom webmasters or scene so randumb kids in 2007 on the later millenial side. Both sides are dumb fuckers but just different flavors.
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>>2156181I blame it on the spicy straight enbies
No. 2156316
>>2154972>>2155079What is this Sweet Baby Inc. shit? We need a bingo card for every time a new woke DEI game comes out.
>>2155083>None of you ever want to be alien superheroes or powerful warriorsI do!!! Man, give me a team and an engine and I'll crank out goddamn miracles
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Whenever I see insane ship charts with tons of red/pink lines it only makes me think that the person has a porn addiction. Same thing when characters have a normal friendship (like the main three of any shonen or the main cast from shows like Scooby Doo) and some weirdo goes "they are poly". The older I get the less I relate to shipping culture
No. 2156324
>>2156320I think you can like shipping without automatically linking it to porn.
There's such a thing as liking romance for romances sake, and just writing down romances that are clearly meant to be part of the plot/canon.
No. 2156330
>>2156209Exactly! And while Japanese fandoms are obviously not all sunshine and rainbows, these women are generally regarded (and also see themselves) as "fandom aunties" who might even mentor the younger generation. It's such a different attitude to Western fandom spaces where any interaction between an adult and a teenage woman is automatically seen as
problematic and grooming. Don't misunderstand me here, I'm not advocating for us older nonnies here to go out and find minors to talk to, but I do think this notion that no conversation between those two groups should ever happen online is just so unhealthy imo (and very American).
No. 2156449
>>2156320It's probably more that some pieces of media lend themselves better for a wide variety of ships to some fans than others do, either because it's got enough depth and interesting character dynamics that people like a lot of pairings instead of just a couple, or it's a game with a shitload of characters that are mostly aesthetics for fans to project onto eg gacha. Plus, those charts are an easy way to air ships a person might like other than the one they make content for. I've never really been into shipping, even when I was a kid, but it's not hard to figure out what most people are getting out of it, and there are plenty of ships that have little to no raunchy material attached to them, so boiling it all down to coom is a bit reductive.
>polyshitIf a fan makes a lot of ot3 art or writes fics for their ship/fleet, I'll buy that they're actually just into it for normal shipping reasons, but if all they're doing is yelling that some group of characters are totes a poly ship, then yeah, they're just a preachy retard kek
No. 2156471
>>2156320What
isn't porn addiction according to you people? Please tell us, what is an acceptable way for women to engage in romance media that isn't "porn addiction"? Moralfags never once answer this simple question.
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>>2156471Did you not read the part about charts being crowded?
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When it comes to ship charts, I don't usually think the person making it is looking up porn of all of them.
If two characters they just find okay have a very obvious romantic subplot, wouldn't that be added too, regardless of what porn the shipper watches? Some people are just the gossipy type too, letting it out with fiction doesn't seem too bad. Pic related is an official penguin ship chart from a zoo.
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>>2156514It's because the fandom thread is full of NLOGs who think any kind of fandom activity related to shipping is porn, when the great majority of it is actually clean. They had their minds tainted by AO3.
No. 2156556
>>2156545People really need to stop reading fanfiction, it just brainrots people.
If the source material on its own isn't enough to keep your attention then maybe you should read something else instead of going to a03 and having mpreg live rent free in your head.
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>>2156565Apparently it was popular, they release a new one every year.
Would they have this information anyway? For stuff like penguin behavioral research and health.
No. 2156580
>>2156568the food is that stuff all on its own though, you don't need to imagine up all those things by yourself to make the act of eating it worthwhile.
The idea that good media somehow equals highbrow, intelligent, or a lack of dumb fun is foolish, and that only vapid, poorly-made slop that needs
you to make up stuff to give it value is the only kind of easy entertainment to have is even more retarded.
No. 2156584
>>2156579Fanfic shouldn't be the main thing you're interested in.
It's
extra completely inconsequential content made for fun. In a small niche fandom I like, while they do make fanfic and au they set it all aside whenever there's a release and just talk about what happened in the main story for a couple of days to a week because they genuinely find that the most fun of all.
No. 2156601
>>2156595What is a fandom if it isn't about being a fan of something?
If you no longer find it enjoyable or think the author is retarded, maybe let it go and pick something else up.
No. 2156606
>>2156579no? I think an anon who either didn't like/get multi-shipping complained about a chart meme and assumed too much of it was the result of coomrot, even though it's likely just the result of large-cast fandoms (considering the examples posted).
From my experience, fandoms that feel like there's an 'excessive' focus on ships are either big or ones with very shallow source material (or both), so that perception can depend on where everyone's lurking. I'm in both small/old fandoms that have a very mild/oldschool-feeling shipping scene and a lot of fic variation, and a few popular new fandoms that can feel like a horny kink-ridden hellscape when you're just looking for something chill to read while passing time kek
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>Lol a minor trying to be hollier-than-thou about calling racism and-
>It says she's 24.
>Welp.
No. 2156618
>>2156607Idk, I just see people constantly complaining about how the source material is "ruined" because they spent so much time in the shitty fanfic/fandom part, why are you there?
Also when it comes to Voltron, I remember seeing stuff about how some of the first problems stemmed from fanfic getting so popular "it was practically considered canon", or other series having their rep stained becayse people just cant stop with shitty fanfic """fixing"" the series' problems", it's easy to see that the issue is rotting your brain on fanfiction instead of just enjoying the source material and reading other series.
No. 2156630
>>2156579Who even said that itt?
>>2156606Honestly I feel the quality went down overall. Not saying big fandoms didn't have massive amounts of trash, they always did, but there used to be better fics. I'm not against shipfics, I actually really like them, but recently they are mostly just written in such a generic way. It's like whoever is writing it doesn't really care about the source material that much to actually write something beyond two characters fucking in a void. Sometimes they feel like those fanfic simulators you could insert names and the body of the text would remain the same. Even massive fandoms with shallow source materials used to have better fics than that. This isn't just a fanfic issue imo, it shows on fanarts or even just plain discussions.
No. 2156635
>>2156185>>2156181Been seeing a lot of this type of retardation lately. When Fionna and Cake came out, I saw a ton of coping from people who felt ashamed to ship Simon and Betty calling it "T4T" or "
toxic lesbians." How mentally ill does someone have to be to feel the need to justify enjoying a canon straight pairing like that? It's like they think shipping something straight will hurt their kweer cred or something.
No. 2156648
>>2156630I think part of the problem is that the younger generations of fic writers are far more poorly read than older writers were at the same age. A lot of more recent fics read like modern generic spicy YA/NA romance novels, which is fair because they're likely what published fiction these authors read. Sure, some people still read better-written fiction as well, but usually classics and often for school and not because they enjoy them. If you don't read broadly it will show in your writing and what plots/concepts you can conceive to follow in your fiction.
Also, as I don't want to come across as 'young bad', it's also well-known that 30-40 year old women are also a large and powerful demographic when it comes to things like YA novels, so it's likely that their writing has also been influenced or derived from such fiction.
No. 2156662
I don't have anything against shipping (I write fanfics myself once in a while) or fanons by principle as long as the fans are self aware about it just being their own delusion and don't push their shit on others, but such irritating behavior has become the norm now. As someone who respects the original canon, the fanon obsessessed zoomies that completely shit on the established settings to promote their autistic poly and gendie headcanons do not feel like they are talking about the same source material at all. I get irritated that they are wasting my time by forcing me engage with this completely different lame story that only exists in their head, I never signed up to expose myself to that crap.
>>2156616>Their fanfiction is meant to be a replacement of canon rather than something inspired by it.Exactly this, thank you nona. I wish to see a natural extension of the source material, or at least something thematically close to be a love letter to the original, not thr navel gazing delulu crap.
No. 2156664
>>2156471Being a cloistered volcel who only imagines heterosexual sex in the missionary position while she masturbates without toys or technology. That's the patented Lolcow Approved Female Sexuality.
>>2156556>>2156472>shipping is purely a sex thing>fanfic is purely a sex thing>fanfic is pointless and ~ruins the source material~Anecdotally, the only people I've heard talk about fanfic this way IRL are moids. What we're fundamentally talking about here is a female-centric expression of creativity and relating to art, and of course the way women engage with art must be perverse, shallow, or unintelligent.
No. 2156675
>>2156472Honestly I wish people like you could say you just don't like shippers because they're annoying apes who will and can smear shit all over the walls and start threatening people the moment they FEEL as if they've been slighted, but instead all I see are half-assed arguments about porn addiction or whatever. We don't even disagree on finding shippers annoying a lot of the time.
>>2156243>gotcha!This kind of person is so interesting to me. Clearly her NLOGism spawned out of some hijacked self-defense from kweers with icky het syndrome who go around harassing random hetshippers and yumes. That kind of thing is generally how spicy straights are formed kek
No. 2156680
>>2156664Shipping≠fanfiction
You can ship while only looking at the source material on it's own, the best type tbh since the fights throwing quotes and character monogues at each other like they're discussing the Bible is genuinely fun to see.
No. 2156688
>>2156682Its really just Fanfic brainrot.
I like the idea that the same people defending fanfic are the same as those that live with mpreg rent free in their heads and complain about it nonstop here.
No. 2156692
>>2156662based and correct
> I wish to see a natural extension of the source material, or at least something thematically close to be a love letter to the original, not navel gazing delulu crap.exactly. and yet most output now is eitther compleetely AU or aims to "fix" canon by removing anything interesing about it.
No. 2156697
>>2156668Learn to read before going in a seething spree at random people
>>2156671I have been asked that too, when I admitted to avoiding ao3 like plague for a fandom I was passionate about. I didn't tell her TRA ass but my reason was the oversaturation of gendie crap in the fanfics for that fandom (ik that's the case for all fandoms these days but dedicated group of "writer" TIFs in that niche fandom made things worse than usual). I miss the early 2010s where it was much easier to find good fics and average IQ of fanfic writers was relatively higher.
No. 2156698
>>2156680>You can ship while only looking at the source material on it's ownIs this a
commandment? Who died and made you queen? I'll do whatever I want and call it whatever the fuck I want.
No. 2156699
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>>2155298TBH, I always remember this pic everytime there is discourse about cringe culture.
No. 2156705
>>2156698I get that it feels nice to be a
victim but I meant that people are
capable of shipping without fanfiction being necessary.
No. 2156822
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I want to grab all of these youtube queer readings essays and throw a nuke on them.
No. 2156891
>>2156826Underrated reply. "Coding" is now used as a basis for harassing people who fail to draw various alien characters with sufficiently
POC features. I once saw someone argue that an alien character was "coded black" because he did drugs and had a bad relationship with his father.
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>>2156829>>2156837they also don't realize that for the most part, it's played as a joke. gen-X for some reason, thought men acting gay was peak comedy and they still think the same. only now, hyper-wokies are convincing themselves it's subversive queer media(picrel)
No. 2156953
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>>2156822Thank you Lindsay Ellis for creating the fandom breatube genre so we can have insane cringe bombs like this.
No. 2156958
>>2156953The first section (until about 9:30) is not really outrageous. Timon and his humour are very jewish, then afterwards, it just becomes this disjointed claim that the first two Lion King films promote white supremacy and Fascism. This is because the concept of lions being the 'king of beasts' and being at the top of the food chain is white supremacist rhetoric, as some white supremacists in the 19th century also said the same thing. She pulls random academic papers as some grand proof. Then it becomes Lion King promotes liberalism (which also promotes white supremacy) because the status quo of the circle of life is returned in each film. At around 37:00, she actually acknowledges that reading into a piece of media like that can be reductive. But then she brings up another academic essay on how queer and marginalized readings are very important as crucial commentary.
Also, at 14:10, there was a weird rant about how the circle of life isn't "scientifically accurate" and nature is far more complicated than the way the Lion King presents it.
No. 2157002
The anti-fanfic anons itt would actually have a seizure if they wandered into the fujo, husbando or waifu threads kek
>>2156958Lion King haters are always REALLY spergy about it for some reason and they seem to hate any kind of animal fable metaphors. But the movie is pretty much told from the lions' perspectives, so why
wouldn't they see themselves as the best predators who deserve to be at the top of the food chain?
No. 2157010
>>2156917It's cope because of their own self imposed rules that they're not allowed to enjoy ~
problematic~ media, therefore they have to do mental gymnastics to explain why obvious caricatures are true and honest gay rep kek
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>>2156958Jesus Harold Christ.
No. 2157068
>>2157060Samefag, you can tell they have neuroses about the female body and sexuality from all the "jokes" about the men being submissive and pregnant kek. It's not
inherently because they hate women, it's because they hate what's expected of them irl, they're just too retarded to express it and unpack their desires properly.
No. 2157254
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>>2156822>Legoshi>Who felt in love with a rabbit>And is too autistic to understand Louis's character.>Gayright, right.
No. 2157364
>>2156472>Incapable of relating to media without coomWhy are you, a moid, dragging your fellow moids? It's literally
all of you.
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thoughts
No. 2157470
>>2156678These people continuously seething at women having """porn addiction""" because they enjoy shipping characters are either Paki-chan (as sperging about "female porn addiction" like a broken record is her signature behavior) who wants to sneak in her fujosperging because she doesn't get her infight fix in the numerous dead circlejerking containment threads
or they're just straight out scrotes faking pearl clutching to try to make women out to be "just as bad as they are". There's absolutely no point in humoring their bullshit and writing thoughtful replies will only make you frustrated and angry because they're not arguing in good faith. Just ignore and report.
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>>2157832the issue people are having is that emma d'arcy/rhaenyra does not look like that irl, emma d'arcy and olivia cooke are roughly same height when and if anything emma is a bit softer than olivia. but for some reason, there's been a trend of masculinizing her, making her taller and less soft
it confirms with my theory that fundamentally heterosexual people can only recreate a near-heterosexual sex dynamic, even with same-sex characters
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Reylo, Adrienette, Daemyra, Zutara and Darklina are all in the top F/M A03 Ships
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>>2161412>>2161420>MiraculousNothing's stronger than the fanon spirit rewriting a shit series.
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>>2161412not in the top 100, but one of the most popular het-ships in Dune is between the male mc and his own mother
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>>2161705Their relationship and the choice of making mother a main character alongside with chosen protagonist in general were the most satisfying part of Dune for me. It felt anciently slow and then you think prologue finished and interesting stuff happening it's ended kek
I need to catch up to sequel and read fics thanks for suggestion I just wondered what fandom to pick!
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I don't get fandom these days having a disability in fantasy universes fetish and finding it offensive when fairies get their wings fixed or when crippled people gain the ability to walk.
No. 2162200
>>2162133The opposite also happens a lot. If you read any dnd-related sperg talk about how
problematic it is that some magic powers can turn you blind or whatever (because the disability is seen as "negative"), you start seeing these people are so afraid that you Can get disabled by the most mundane, stupid things. We can never win with these people
No. 2162236
>>2162200Both of these just stem from them not wanting disabilities to be viewed as negative or something to be repaired, but disabilities literally hinder your life, that's why they're called that. It's this "everything about you is perfect and
valid and absolutely no one should question it" mindset that is so cloying in fiction from these people.
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>>2162209The thing is, most people who complain about disabilities as mechanics or storylines in fiction aren't even disabled to start with, so they will never understand why a crippled person would want their movements back or why a blind person would get surgeries to correct their eyes, and they don't get that some aren't born with it to even start with. For them, it's just that mystical, representation thing to insert in.
Related to the topic, there's a well known TIM in the fandom I'm in that self-describes his job to "sensitive review" what elements in your stories could be considered ableist. Note that he's just a tranny afaik, not disabled. And all he does is copy some site that isn't in his language to be seen as smart and scam rpg companies kek.
https://mythcreants.com/blog/ridding-your-monsters-of-ableism/ Note that he got rid of some cool insanity mechanics in a book because muh ableism, but even the site he bases his shit off says it's fine to do so if it's well written.
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I understand why AUs exist, but there is a certain point where there's so much change that I really start to wonder, why don't you just have OCs? picrel is an AU is about Voldemort as a human, raised by Harry and of course there's a gay pairing
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>>2162476It was on my pinterest feed and I absolutely love Tomarry but this pic made me stare in the void sort of. Whole Let's meet at the Witches' Gathering memes and younger tops are not my thing.
About distant AUs. I wonder about cases on successful transitions from AU to OC stories while retaining fanbase from fanart account.
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No. 2162545
>>2162133this kind of mindset makes me sad tbh– it's like they'd rather people not dream of worlds where people can be healed and healthy (through magic or sci-fi tech) in ways that they can't in reality (yet, for some things). Sure, if you get disabled you eventually have to face the music on how it effects your life and that it's likely permanent, but idk it can be a comfort for fiction to pretend otherwise in its own way. There's a similar mindset where people don't like stuff like redemption arcs or reconciliation between eg a child and their
abusive parent because in real life it's better to cut someone off like that or something, but sometimes the hope or daydream of such scenarios helps people who've lived through that. Sorry I'm rambling, but stories don't have to be realistic or cynical to be worth something, and sometimes seeing a hopeful, optimistic outcome where people did manage to fix what was broken is better than one where things stay broken.
>>2162200the dnd fandom (especially those that orbit and don't even play because no one will tolerate them) can be pretty insane when it comes to those kinds of takes. Especially annoying since most of them are genre tourists who don't know anything about fantasy except what they've read or watched someone else say, so they have all sorts of retarded assumptions on common elements– bg3 also has this problem kek.
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>>2162476Younger tops are my
problematic kryptonite. I love when a single man raises a cute kid who has a juvenile crush on him, only for the kid to grow up into a virile young adult and relentlessly pursue his caretaker romantically. A good example is USUK. P.S. This only works if the younger is the one pushing boundaries, otherwise it’s just a boring power imbalance. It’s the subversion that’s hot. Sorry not sorry.
No. 2162736
>>2162626>it tells a lot more about the person making the accusation Honestly, it really does. If you look at an orc, especially a more negative or evil depiction of one, and your first thought is, 'ah, a black person' etc it's you who has the problem.
A fantasy race can also carry inspiration from real world cultures without being synonymous or allegorical to anything that exists. Most fantasy or sci-fi races will be mixes of multiple things and are also usually intended to embody a theme or idea, they aren't meant to be 1:1 to reality and I don't get why this is such a struggle for people kek. 0 imagination, I swear.
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>>2162237kek, you reminded me of the drama that happened last month over the asshole-y comments by a "sensitivity reader" who worked on a dating sim called Our Life, by gb patch games. Screenshots from a private discord were leaked where rose, the sensitivity reader in question, was talking shit about Kab/gb patch, her future boss (aka the main game dev) and the fandom to her friends. She angered people mainly by calling gb patch a pussy and bitching about a bisexual character often being paired with male mcs in fanworks (reeing about heteronormativity and bi erasure). Outside of that, she has also whined about body shape and clothing of the token FTM love interest in the game being "sexualized and not masculine enough" on her tumblr. The screenshots were posted in r/OurLifeFanPage on 14 Aug 2024 and resulted in many subsequent discussions(in case you wanna do some digging on your own), but the post got deleted and I found the pics on tumblr (
https://archive.ph/MsZPs) . The leakers apparently first went to gb patch, but she's a classic doormat who made a number of posts on tumblr and reddit making excuses for rose, up until the very end (
https://archive.ph/TJH3a).
Do note that rose is a "black trans bisexual" tif, who also posts thirst traps on twitter (same handle as tumblr) that focus on her boobs and wonders why people are doubting her transness kek. I assume that the dev was afraid that not defending rose would get her labeled as
problematic, but considering her game attracts gendie and/or woke people a lot, her continuing to defend rose's shitty statements got many fans to drop the game anyway. Her friends also kept painting anyone angry with rose's comments as "racist" "transphobic" haters, so it was a pretty messy shitshow. Funniest one was a "cis woman ally" friend came out to defend rose, painting herself as the "villain" in a comically dramatic way (
https://archive.ph/dRQOs).
In the beginning rose dodged the accusations by claiming the convos were taken out of context and offered some half assed apologies (
https://archive.ph/3hUp8), but in the end she stepped down from the position with this non-apology post where she plays
victim (
https://archive.ph/QCzuQ). This is how far I went in my investigations, donno if there has been updates. I really enjoyed the subreddit posts throughout this whole drama, it's so fun seeing gendies rip each other apart.
No. 2162794
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>>2162781There's no way to pander to wokies without them inevitably turning and ree-ing at you and I laugh every time somebody has to learn this the hard way. Imo there was nothing Kab could have done that would have dug her out of looking ebil and
problematic. I'm surprised it didn't happen earlier. It sucks but it's the harsh reality of pandering to gendies. Also kek at the fact that a moid who often draws women's bodies/clothes in a weird vacuum-sealed way is the sprite artist for the game and that's why the TIF side character looks like that.
What makes me laugh is that if this TIF looked actually male, they probably all would have been ree-ing about it being unrealistic standards. Again, no way to win when you pander to these types. The fact that the character just looks like a thin woman drawn by a moid who refuses to put women in baggy clothes probably reminds the resident TIFs that they won't pass either. Sad that they even trans-ed her because I thought she looked like a cute butch.
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I can't read japanese so i dont't exactly know what goes on japanese female-centered spaces, but i know they aren't this cucked
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rare based pinterest
No. 2162970
>>2162840>>2162826>>2162834Why are they going SO HARD over a fictional character? He's literally not real why are you defending the rights of anime boy n#74678995 and bringing up the law kek?? It reminds me of the seething that Astarion maid dress drawing caused
>Bwaaaah bwaaah the fantastical vampire faggot was le SA'd don't draw him chained up it's literally rape and immoral and-Kek fucking retards
No. 2163036
>>2162675>guilt Analytics. This list has been going on for years, and the demographic for most popular ships couples have not moved an inch, even Harry Potter despite seemingly falling out of favor, still ranks high in Ship stats across the board.
Even the mixed couple themselves outside of anime/videogame characters, one character like Marinette, are mixed race themselves.
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>>2162840Does the BSD fanbase even talk about anything outside of the Dazai and the nurse panel? I've been seeing discourse centered around this scene since 2018. Back then, it was mostly animeonlies getting heartbroken upon learning that their precious husbando is a whore. But with every passing year, the discourse keeps getting more insane. Some months ago, twitterfags were unironically arguing over whether or not to call him a manwhore/slut kek.
No. 2163146
>>2162736My personal peeve is when people conflate generic tribal races as African or Polynesian people when literally every culture ever has had such a phase in their history where they live in huts, wear animal skin and make bone necklaces and iron swords and pikes and so on. For example I swear orcs are more closer to vikings in how they're portrayed and how Tolkien had a huge boner for northern people but tell that to the person with polarized identity politics brainrot who thinks big, brutish and animalistic equals "black people". I often wonder if people making all of these wild accusations are ever able to have fun or enjoy things but whenever I see them out there on the internet the only fandoms they ever enjoy is childish slop (sorry nonnies who like them but it is what it is) like Splatoon or Animal Crossing. I honestly feel it's just a form of an autistic special interest hyperfixation on spotting
problematic things in media at all costs.
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>>2162970nta but but he's a fictional version of the real Japanese author Osamu Dazai. In the BSD he's a spy, but irl Dazai was the biggest manwhore. He wasn't outright
abusive to the women he was with, but he was constantly getting into relationships with older women, gaslighting them for money so he could buy heroin. When the women would eventually leave him, he'd find another poor woman to feed his addiction. His family forced him to live on an estate far away from the cities, where he ended up seducing a younger girl and ultimately committed suicide with her
No. 2163341
>>2163284Why? Ntayrt, just don't get you.
>>2162980KEK, i will never forget her, hillarious.
No. 2163985
>>2163146>I often wonder if people making all of these wild accusations are ever able to have fun or enjoy things but whenever I see them out there on the internet the only fandoms they ever enjoy is childish slop (sorry nonnies who like them but it is what it is) like Splatoon or Animal Crossing. I honestly feel it's just a form of an autistic special interest hyperfixation on spotting problematic things in media at all costs.That's weird. I found that fans of kiddy games (like Nintendo stuff) tend to be in their lane and at most they'll just be annoying little kweers.
Since reading about fantasy books online I found that the accusation of racism to Tolkien come from pretentious fantasy and sci-fi readers who frequent academia or dabble in woke social justice shit, so still people obsessed with something, just not kiddy games.
One of the biggest examples I can think of is Michael Moorcock, the very influential fantasy writer of the Elric of Melnibone fame, calling Tolkien and his work crypto-fascist.
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all of fandom degeneracy in a nutshell
No. 2164187
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>>2164179He just makes me think of this meme or fics where he grooms Peter.
No. 2164217
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>>2164216we are all giga stacies here, fuck off cctard
No. 2164226
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>>2164179found it, these are the top "reader insert" characters on a03
>#9-Suga at 2383>#8-Sam Winchester at 2386>#7-Batkagou Katsuki at 2715>#6-Jungkook at 2863>#5-Steve Rogers at 3660>#4-Sans at 3773>#3-Loki at 3819>#2-Dean Winchester at 4187>#1-Bucky Barnes at 6661 No. 2164233
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>>2164224autists really need to stop taking everything so seriously they are turning the board into a convent
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>>2164268NTA but Dogisaga stuff is pretty hilarious.
No. 2164277
>>2164273i hate the faces, it
triggers me so much i really don’t know why
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>>2164187This is bitter as fuck but I hate when pinterest girls make the wojak a cute girl, defeats the entire point of the meme.
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>>2164355as a kid, I used to ship justin and alex from wizards of waverly and didn't realize how fucked up that would be
No. 2164379
>>2164378Not sure how that's related to what I said but I've seen you post about that before
I also ship incest so I don't really care though.
No. 2164409
>>2164327That's kind of why I said this but only in some aspects, because then there are very male specific scenes like him hiring prostitutes and beating them up just for fun.
>>2164333nta but several parts of the movie remind me of these recent videos of young women posting their morning routines or their average work day where they do nothing but eat vegan breakfasts, go to the gym at 6am, eat lunch in front of their laptop, drink with coworkers after work because they realistically can't show their actual jobs because of confidential data and NDAs and then go to bed.
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>>2164396Wouldn't go that far, but they do annoy me.
>>2164399>>2164410Because your bones are rattling
>>2164407Agreed, it seems like they can't even slightly laugh at themselves and have to depict themselves as cute and soft 24/7.
I think the lolita edits where they're all slovenly are much better.
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>>2164421>she's not cutesyAnon she wears a bear onesie.
No. 2164427
>>2164426Not really, Lain's meant to have some creepy scenes but she's overall meant to be cute.
They wouldn't have given her a teddy bear motif if she wasn't meant to be cute.
No. 2164529
>>2164515>Although I'd like to see these characters as womenThere's a female Deadpool and there's probably been a female Joker because alternate universe bullshit.
>>2164524He would have calmed down if he accepted the gay guy who wanted his dick.
No. 2164533
>>2164524>and dont manage to chimp out like he didI would sell a kidney to have a good book or movie like that with that premise and a female protagonist.
>>2164529These characters aren't comparable, they're from very different genres and settings.
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>>2164532They're also trying to make her a hero character though which they wouldn't do with Joker.
>>2164533>like that with that premise and a female protagonistGone girl?
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>>2164533i never understood why lady vengance never became /our/ american psycho. She's the closest thing we will ever get to a cool cold blooded murdered, and she also killed a scrote that deserved it.
No. 2164555
>>2164549do it
nonny. I will kill for a Lady Vengance moovie night but last time i tried hosting for my friends i couldnt make the shit work so i gave up.
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>>2164544based movie. the granny was always my favourite
No. 2164914
>>2164187>>2164202>DeadpoolPinkie Pie as an assassin would be close to this
>Scott Pilgrim>Wolf of Wall StreetToo scrotey to be a woman
>Clockwork OrangeWay too scrotey to be a woman
>JokerJinx has evolved from a Harley Quinn knockoff to being Joker-esque in Arcane
>Donnie DarkoThis whole movie was a teen boy fantasy so it wouldn't work as well with a female protagonist but I'd be interested in a female Donnie type of character
>American PsychoPatrick is meant to be a critique of scrote behavior. He would not work as a woman.
>Star LordThe only one I can see here.
No. 2165152
>>2164539Gone girl is so fun to watch yes. It’s a bit dark.
I wouldn’t say it’s a comedy? I guess you can think of it that way
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No. 2165407
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I hate how elves are reduced to porn clichés, with busty elf women being raped by orcs or Japanese/Korean male self-inserts, while the men are portrayed as total wimps or "femboys", existing only to be humiliated or portrayed as ultra-feminine pseduo-males who resemble prepubescent children. And this coom-fueled image has now infiltrated Western fandom, not just for elves, but of any fae or pre-human civilization
No. 2165523
>>2165407And to make matters worse, they worship dwarves as symbols of masculinity despite being a bunch of greedy manlets with anger issues which frankly describes all these scrotes. I want someone to make a scene where a male elf proceeds to clown on a human male and take his girl just to see them seethe.
>>2165521I like it when orcs aren't ugly and oddly attractive in their own right instead yet another vehicle for ugly bastard hentai.
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Actual mental illness but it's Genshin (I think?) so not surprising
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>>2165523Any example of such orcs? I remember liking Thrall (picrel) from warcraft series. I only played warcraft 3 though, he was pretty chill and level headed there, a nice foil to the hot headed human bishie Arthas who fucks up everything.
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>>2165637>>2165523the thing about orcs is that they are also meant to be corrupted elves (per tolkien), they are a twisted form of actual perfection. it's believed he was inspired by the corruption of angels according to christian tradition
>those unhappy ones who were ensnared by Melkor [Morgoth] little is known of a certainty. For who of the living has descended into the pits of Utumno [Morgoth's castle], or has explored the darkness of the counsels of Melkor? Yet this is held true by the wise of Eressea, that all those of the Quendi [Elves] who came into the hands of Melkor, ere Utumno was broken, were put there in prison, and by slow arts of cruelty were corrupted and enslaved; and thus did Melkor breed the hideous race of the Orcs in envy and mockery of the Elves. No. 2165682
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Not this shit again,there was a screenshot with another retard complaining but I couldn't find the original post so I screenshot this retard complaining instead.the funny thing is the artist is Brazilian lol.
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>>2165637Pic related is super moidy dont rec but I guess it's unique in being orc Guts.
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the “contact local politicians” point is fucking hilarious
No. 2165879
>>2165799The genshit boycott drama is genuinely fascinating to me, you have all these entitled twittard westerners failing to come to terms with the fact that they aren't the main target demographic for once and that they're merely along for the ride with whatever the asian consumer base wants.
I'm sure those hoyo higher ups will risk ticking off their biggest whales in favor of some retards on the other side of the globe throwing a tantrum on twitter.
No. 2166046
>>2165707Ofc low pixel game art from 2002 will look like shit, congrats for the discovery, have a cookie
Vidrel is a massive collection of cutscenes that show him across different games.
No. 2166052
>>2165637gay moid ass comment
>>2166046nta but he looks like a muscular young man, not my usual idea of a "bishe"
im assuming you posted him because he has long hair
No. 2166087
>>2165799Like I actually agree that it's dumb that all the NPCs and characters are white in a region modeled after African, Polynesian and South African cultures is inappropriate, but holy shit people are being increasingly autistic about this. Sign a petition? Contact local politicians over a Chinese anime game not having enough darker skintones? What the fuck are these people smoking? I find it hard to believe that these people are serious about this, it has to be some sort of a game of clout to them. Why is complaining about the female characters being given ugly coomer designs wrong because it's ackshually all for lesbians and totally not for porn addict scrotes but Mavuika being light skinned makes these people lose their shit?
>>2165859>Genshitters will literally do anything besides uninstalling the game.That's the thing, I'd say "just don't play the game" to them but truth to be told I don't think they actually
play the game and the ones who do are free to play so they're not even paying customers.
No. 2166088
>>2165407Coomers ruin everything. Tolkien would fucking hate them.
>>2166056Yeah some brick-faced troglodyte without a haircut isn’t a bishie. Dude looks like he tanks hits with his browbone and eats sheet metal with every meal.
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>>2166087>Why is complaining about the female characters being given ugly coomer designs wrong because it's ackshually all for lesbiansI fucking hate "lesbian" hoyo fans so fucking much. They'll defend the questionable gender ratios cuz female led and super feminist, get mad with people not shipping female genshin characters together, and all around seem like fakers to me? I know some lesbians who genuinely do not like the designs yet get called a bigot and slut shamer over it. Understandingly, finding female gaze fanservice in a gacha is like finding diamonds in a sweatshop, but my god, these people need new standards if they see this as hot.
No. 2166123
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>>2166100am a lesbian hoyo fan, i can confirm the fanbase is fucking insufferable and contrarily to what some will have you believe, gay/bi women aren't all on board with the male gazey shit either. the thing that probably pissed me off the most is that when we finally got a female character that was more covered up, all of these retards rushed to draw her in the skimpiest possible variation of her outfit (ill never forgive the devs for that one) and still feminize her in ooc ways to this day. all the while, those very same people were the ones who'd spent their time saying they wanted a less fem woman, a woman in pants, etc etc…people constantly say one thing and do another, that shithole is truly full of the most spineless and hypocritical virtue signallers i've ever seen.
>>2166087>Why is complaining about the female characters being given ugly coomer designs wrong because it's ackshually all for lesbians and totally not for porn addict scrotes but Mavuika being light skinned makes these people lose their shiti couldn't agree more, these morons are deeply deluded. have you seen the shitshow picrel caused? op got absolutely dragged through the mud for stating plainly obvious facts, go look at some of the comments over on the post/qrts if you want your braincells to wither and die. its genuinely looking bleak for society.
No. 2166139
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>>2166123kek I remember this tweet, the amount of braindead honkaicels in the replies hardcore reeing at them how IF THEY WEREN'T PRO LGBT THEN WHY WOULD THEY MAKE TWO HOT ANIME WOMEN KISS AND GROPE EACH OTHER? as if it wasn't literally proving their point. My god, this game (Honkai Impact 3rd) has a 99% incel fanbase to the point one of them tried stabbing the CEO because he was so mad his pure waifu was "disgraced" with an outfit he didn't like and when their player survey had a question about if they would approve of a playable male character they had to issue an official apology for upsetting their playerbase with the mere thought KEK. But yeah totally for lesbians.
No. 2166152
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>>2166139ayrt, seconding what you said and adding this screenshot as possibly the most surreal thing i've seen come out of that shitfest. i genuinely thought this tweet was satire upon first seeing it but no, they're being sincere. how can anyone possibly type that with a straight face knowing this boobshot is the
thumbnail to their "argument", its pure insanity.
No. 2166153
>>2166143Most of them openly hate butch lesbians and depictions of gay men both real and fictional so it's definitely some sort of a cutesy girly sisterhood fantasy for them and not a genuine acceptance of homosexuality. In my experience most of them are extremely young, have actually stunted development and the rest are just porn addict transbians poisoning the well further. Having known a (cis) honkai lesbian IRL she just had a really weird NLOG attitude (akin to "all other girls like yaoi and bishounens but
I like cute anime lesbians!"), a fairly autistic understanding of her surroundings to begin with and seemed to only be attracted to anime girls and not real women.
No. 2166159
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>>2166155As a lesbian playing hoyoverse games I'm capable of enjoying the lesbian relationships they have written (although the only one I genuinely really enjoy is Beidou x Ningguang which none of these hoyoverse yurifags ever hype up because it's not a cute pink and purple combo) but I'm also capable of understanding and accepting that most of them are made so that moids don't have to feel threatened by the presence of male characters cucking them because all the female characters are lesbocoded. It is what it is.
>>2166157Yes.
No. 2166164
>>2166159As a Straight woman, I ship them too and maybe nothing else because every yuri shit afterwards has gotten dumber and dumber until I uninstalled the game. I'm glad the pyro archon has no one to be shipped with. If she ever was paired with a guy, the whole twitter community would erupt into a pile smoldering rage. It be fun to watch until they start calling their local politicians to bully mihoyo some more.
>>2166161Wait, so fictional characters don't count as your sexuality? I really want to know why because I know some who discovered they liked men or women from anime, cartoons, movies, and shows.
No. 2166166
>>2166164The key word here is "only." I said ONLY being attracted to anime characters.
>>2166153> Having known a (cis) honkai lesbian IRL she just had a really weird NLOG attitude (akin to "all other girls like yaoi and bishounens but I like cute anime lesbians!")Kek this is so funny to me, I can't imagine caring enough about straight women's anime crushes to get this superiority complex. This specific type of discourse is always retarded.
No. 2166167
>>2166164NTA but it's mostly the /only/ being attracted to fictional ones part what she waa referring to.
They can help in figuring out what you're into, but also (if we are talking about drawn ones, not actors) they're just caricatures of the real thing, that's why some people can be into characters of the opposite gender they're attracted to as long as they look male/feminine enough to them.
No. 2166174
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>>2166166>>2166167Thanks for clarifying. Didn't know 2d characters threw a wrench towards the whole thing. But given some characters like astolfo are very "draw girl, make them a boy" coded, that might explain uptick in men calling themselves queer or something more retarded. If it's not that pink haired faggot it's usually the super masc anime women that are so "gender" to these people.
In other news, why the fuck do troons believe that men or women reading GL and BL must mean they're secretly "eggs"? Is it just autistic white or black thinking in play? Like girls love romance and flowers therefore anyone who likes them are a girl vice versa?
No. 2166182
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This reminded me of something. Around 2015~2016 I browsed /v/ for weeb games and I remember there was this multimedia coomer franchise called Valkyrie Drive that had this ridiculous premise that made it semi-viral for a week or so. Basically it was about magical lesbian couples where one would kiss the other and the kissed girl would turn into a weapon.
Anyway, I remember reading that despite the amount of shilling the franchise got, it more or less failed except with female yuri fans for some reason… even when looking for a pic for my post I saw fanart blatantly drawn by women.
But instead of continuing this series and catering more to said female fanbase, the creators decided to drop it all and move onto other things.
Otaku markets seem to not trust female fanbases at all. I'm not crying for the loss of coomslop lol but it's still a story that makes me think.
No. 2166193
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>>2166182Well, for starters this looks like a court case and is genuinely disgusting.
No. 2166196
>>2166189So if a open world gacha with actual combat releases, and all the characters are male, will they start murdering people over it? I'm genuinely concerned because we are starved for good games that pander to women.
>>2166193the girl on the right, straight up looks like a child. How the hell is it legal?
No. 2166201
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>>2166196>>2166193Idk ask japanese lesbians. Unsurprisingly the fanart from women makes her look older.
The point wasn't about the moral side of the coomslop anyway, it's that these companies will never prioritize women, even the women who are willing to buy their slop and who were the only ones who cared for it.
No. 2166303
>>2166233Genshin is too big of a franchise to rely simply on whales. The "whales make up for most of the income" thing is true mostly for gacha games that barely break even and get their
only income from the game, but with Genshin their merchandise, events, collabs and other factors contribute to the revenue as well. And whales in Genshin roll for meta units (i.e. the strongest or most useful characters) both male or female, if they break the game everyone will spend their paycheck on them regardless of the character's gender. The ones developing parasocial relationships are more essential to games that are literal PNG collectors with minimal effect on the gameplay like most idol rhythm games.
No. 2166315
>>2166191Men consoom like you wouldn't believe.
>>2166262But wait, there's more! Due to widespread culture of cheating in Asian gaming, they paypig for cheat engine creators too. Those ain't cheap, and you absolutely have to have them to be competitive.
No. 2166329
>>2166251If it's a medium to convey an idea, then it's art, but most video games suck it. Take it from someone who plays games sometimes. Story driven games didn't became a thing until the fucking 80s or so, and upswinged to the 90s when tech could finally render cutscenes and audio. Game companies are still in the mindset that gamers don't really care for truly thought provoking content save for the few that do. If you want good stories, you're best bet is either adv style visual novels, rpgs, and interactive narrative games. Braindead action shooters leave no nuance besides excuses to shoot people and maybe a "they killed my wife and kids" backstory. I chalk it up to the medium's age, but considering both flims, tv, and books have greater staying power and deeper stories and themes, there must be something about games that makes it hard to balance narrative with gameplay.
>>2166279There are three genders in video games–men, bimbos and political (meaning women they can't fap to). It just so happens bimbos are a dying breed and now the gamers seethe at their masters for depriving them of coom material.
No. 2166360
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>>2166123Is there any place where we can talk about HYV's double standards without being hit with baseless accusations? Twitter is filled with the most insane opinions. You cannot say anything remotely "negative" about any female character, or they will launch a witch hunt against you. Of late, even the general on /m/ has got filled with shitposters who try to shut down any discussion regarding the glaring difference in the way male and female characters are treated. Honestly, it's just sad at this point.
No. 2166373
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>>2166360Why are they acting like she also isn't wearing a top where the sides are cut out kek, twitter users are so bizarre.
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>>2166360>transfemfurinaso either a moid or a terminal case of pickme handmaidenry, got it. found this from the same specimen who's apparently aiming to turn missing the point into an art form. as if a woman in the "boring" male clothes wouldn't be infinitely cooler, more stylish, and more revolutionary than any skimpy outfit #872928392 could ever aspire to be. not to mention thatd actually appeal to the female gaze.
No. 2166408
>>2166329>there must be something about games that makes it hard to balance narrative with gameplayIt's the interactivity and agency of the player, and design choices to do with that that are basically poison to narratives in games. If your game is an open world with rpg elements and a decent sandbox, it's difficult to work out how to string a story along in a way that both makes sense, has depth or nuance, or even just good pacing (great example of this is Tears of the Kingdom, which didn't even employ a system to keep you from seeing collectible cutscenes out of order, further damaging an already weak story). You don't exactly know where the player will go first, or how long they'll dawdle in between pieces of information, or outright miss or skip it– hence why games known for stronger stories tending to be more linear with less player freedom. Choose your own adventure books, which are part of the dna of the modern video game, are also far more limited than regular novels due to how they work. Also have you seen how braindead streamers/youtubers are? Imagine spending years crafting mechanics, environments, characters, and a story, only to see some of the most viewed players (who can heavily skew audience perceptions) completely brush by it and then complain as if it wasn't there– it seems like a very discouraging field to write in kek.
A lot of games also just don't intend to have a narrative that's better than a framework to hang the mechanics and levels off of, and that's fine too. I'd also argue that the 'art' factor of games is often more so in their visuals and design, but more people understand basic narrative theory thanks to english classes than they do art/film theory, visual symbolism or anything like that, so they always focus on the story that's in the script and not the art bible.
Sorry for the sperg, I love games as a medium and find their construction and potential fascinating… even if they often fall short kek
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>>2166360The worst thing that has happened to these Gacha game communities are the fakebians who act like them loving a few 2d coomer waifus is actual feminism and real signs of female homosexuality. They always shut you down the second you try to criticize a female character because they think this makes them such a lesbian and the supporter of women. They are too busy asslicking the incels who do the exact same as them to husbando likers, it reminds me a lot of the Honkai Impact 3 sapphics who are so willing to team up with incels to shit on female fans who want a few playable male characters in that game.
And the outrage over the design between Jing Yuan and Feixiao is absolutely understandable, I wish they made Feixiao at least look a bit like picrel.
>>2166406I absolutely detest these people, they act like women preferring male characters is a big sin and they're the better ones for eating up the most mid looking skimpy dressed female characters and then screaming misogyny when you say you don't like it.
No. 2166461
>>2166452Feixiao's design could've been fixed with very minor touch ups too, like make her pants long legged and get rid of the retarded skin windows on her top and she'd look fine. Even when you point out the hypocrisy between how she and jing yuan are designed despite both being generals they just ignore it and scream slut shaming.
>it reminds me a lot of the Honkai Impact 3 sapphics who are so willing to team up with incels to shit on female fans who want a few playable male characters in that game.And the worst part is that most of those Honkai ~sapphics~ who are actual born women are virgins never over the age of 15 and they hang around 20+ coom-addicted moids in the fandom playing a game that used to have a groping mechanic where you could touch the girls to raise their "affection meter". But it's okay because some of the girls would hit you if you touched their pussies of course!
No. 2166465
>>2166464Arknights
nonnie ♥ I agree wholeheartedly. Once you look past the waifubait characters the moid fandom loves, there are surprisingly a lot of amazing non-sexualized ones
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>>2166467>sperg about butch women/gay men but hide it behind wokeisms like "protecting feminity"this but "let women be feminine"
No. 2166488
>>2166477The way it's not even about policing how women should dress like some jihadist; it's about having a range of representations that reflect different styles and personalities. The world isn't just women wearing one pink dress or looking half naked no matter what, and it would be great if media could reflect that more, but talking to female fans of these games is always a massive hit or miss. Either you'll meet somebody who understand your struggle or it'll be a massive retard like this.
>>2166406>y'all will gag over anything as long as dick and balls are attachedIt's not husbando likers fault that female characters in media often end up being either overly sexualized for the male gaze with little depth - I'm not interested in one-dimensional female characters dressed half naked and it's not my fault for this so this pseudo
victim blaming thing can fuck all the way off. Why should I settle for generic female characters who look the same clothes wise and act the same, when there are male characters out there with more interesting and fully developed personalities?
No. 2166496
>>2166201Tbf, not sure if it's the case with this, but there's times where the person in charge of writing is actually good at their job while the person drawing is the first ecchi artist they found on twitter.
Nothing is worse than when the people behind the story don't trust it enough that they get someone to "touch it up" by adding boobs booking boobily to the visuals.
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Seeing nonas call out tranny hoyofags on their weird fake-feminism bullshit is giving me such overwhelming relief as someone who has to block at least 15 of these retards per day to keep their incel defence league tweets off of my feed. I’m tired of it!
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Why do western 'antis' never attack men? korean feminists doxed dorontabi, so whats their excuse. What i wouldnt do for a western equivalent of korean radfems, imagine the amount of moids we could take down a peg.
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>>2166452>>2166464I'm sorry to go off topic I am so sorry but Arknights is mentioned and I need to sperg about one of my favorite characters in history. I wish they didn't sexualize her so hard in the past couple years. Honestly though I'm kinda an Arknights defender and I would die on the hill that a lot of characters aren't as sexualized as 99% of other gachas unless it's for optional skins.
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>>2166605I can go on an autism rant about her all day, she's one of the best written characters, DM is one of the best events and her character development is so good. I hate when people call her a "tsundere", she's literally just a larper who puts on acts to survive. Bitch can't even read! I love her to bits. Male W fans are some of the worst fans in existence.
No. 2166639
>>2166592I really wish there was a possibility of western women doing the same to moids in fandom spaces but unfortunately they're the first ones to bend backwards for the most disgustingly rancid men, excuse their nasty fetishes like handmaidens and are massive doormats in general. They're the twitter equivalent of r/relationshipadvice women asking if they are boring for being uncomfortable with their husbands' anal fetish and a bunch of women in the comments talking about how he is so '
valid' for it and you shouldn't kink shame, yadda yadda.
The entire world's view on everything is directly affected by male influence because they're the sex holding all the societal power, including how women treat each other when it comes to fandom issues. Men can easily be memed into cooming for anything and chase the fetish in real life be it little children or hurting women and women rarely become terminal sex pests like that, but suddenly if a woman dares to voice her liking a 2d male, it's the end of the world.
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>>2166622Her development from DM and the beginning of the main story of now is paced so wonderfully. From her being part of Reunion for her own personal goals to joining RI despite what Doctor did because she cares about Amiya and has some belief in what RI does to being reunited with her best friends to finally finding a name and identity for herself surrounded by people she cares about and cares about her. I love thinking about how much she cares for other people and always has, but always hid it due to circumstances of being a mercenary, and a Sarkaz one at that where tomorrow is never guaranteed. DM broke my heart in a million ways especially since W finally found hope and faith in Theresa and that was stripped away and to see her regain that hope and desire to see her species subjugation end is so nice. Her recent short was amazing and I loved seeing more about what happened during the time after Theresa and before Reunion when she was at her most broken.
>>2166627This is so true I couldn't agree more. I love how you see them all in each other's arts all the time, like how you see the Ines and W in the back of Whorederor's skin and W and Hoederer in Ines' skin. The DM trio is one of my favorite trios ever and I love how despite all the time they spent apart they never stopped worrying for each other despite their circumstances, and when they finally meet it's like they were barely apart.
>>2166634They literally give us so many good outfits for her (DM and the skin, her base art, Victorian crisis) and then we got… that. I hate it. What the fuck. At least she's the best character in the entire game stats-wise by far so that's nice, but it does piss me off that we got a limited alter of an already limited character. I fear Arknights is going to start pushing into other gacha methods soon, the powercreep is getting worse.
No. 2166643
>>2166360I just had a horrifying realisation. A lot of Genshin fans probably grew up with the game and it moved with from as they went from their teenage to adult life
That's why some are so overly protective about it.
I'm glad I never had an autistic obsession with something as braindead as Genshin
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somewhat related, the pandemic was really the turning point for most fandom spaces. like there were weirdo's before, but now they were everywhere and actively getting worse
No. 2166805
>>2166643People clown on Genshin all the time for its horrible fandom but the lore goes actually really deep and Mihoyo does impressive research on basically everything they do, in Star Rail the way they handled the entirety of Penacony and its layered dreamscape and the philosophy of free will was great to observe because they had brought in actual neuroscientists to consult about how they should present their narrative. The way how they handled the music for Fontaine and Sumeru was superb. The dedication they put into the underwater swimming mechanics to make sure players wouldn't be subjected to motion sickness. It all gets wasted on the horrible fandom that rarely appreciates the work they do, as someone who has been playing gacha probably before the majority of this thread even got a smartphone Mihoyo's dedication to push the standards for just a gacha game is very, very underrated. I've thoroughly enjoyed the content Genshin has given me over the years, Natlan (the latest region) is the first time I've actually felt disappointed and it's mostly because they themselves admitted during the 5.0 stream that they're "starting to listen to the fans more".
And I'm not talking only about the beyond retarded western fandom that flanderizes the characters, skips all of the dialogue and world quests and then complain about wanting a skip button because they can't read and endlessly rees about the skintones. It's also the Asian fandom and its gachacels, the men going into straight out terrorism holding the company by the balls and posting cat killing videos because girls are so into a male character associated with cats are going to affect how they approach things or risk being reported to the authorities for towing the line of what's acceptable in their fascist country. And not to mention all the creativity that goes into the leaked concept art of the characters, only for them all to be thrown into the trash because marketing wants another generic booba waifu with mismatched titty napkins like what happened with Skirk and Emilie.
No. 2166832
>>2166825I will actually take your word on this,
nonnie. Perhaps it really is time to finish it. Thank you! Feels so satisfying to know there's somebody out there who shares the same RE fan agony as me kek. ♥
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>>2166821>Her mother, not wanting her child to be forced into the Dark Priest lifestyle, wished for a chance for Marina to grow up divergent from her father's religion; which would have otherwise involved a lifetime of worship to The Old Gods. Despite Marina's birth gender being male, her mother decided to conceal her identity to all others, including Marina's father and label her child female. This spared her now-daughter from the Dark Priest line of succession that all eldest sons of Priests must follow.scrotes have such a shitty way of telling stories
No. 2166841
>>2166836They can literally
never decide if being raised as a girl is horrible or uwu
valid trans rep kek
No. 2166848
>>2166657>strung me along only to leave me downtrodden over broken promisesgod, i feel that so hard
all they had to do was not fuck up one (1) character and honor their build-up, thats all i ever asked for and yet. people will be in for a rude fucking wakeup call when nothing happens in snezhnaya after all these years of saying it will be this amazing payoff, or maybe they'll just huff another round of copium and proceed to move the goalpost to khaenriah. we'd all be much better off just enjoying the exploration or gameplay and not thinking it will ever be that deep (at least not in the main quests). it truly is just a gacha game, and a male-pandering one at that.
No. 2166878
>>2166848Tbh, open world gameplay has never been my favorite. Most of them take up space, lack interesting locales, and oftentimes feel copypasted in terms of mechanics. Oh look another crafting mechanic, or gliding mechanic, or rep mechanic. Please, stop making games do everything at once. I do not care what it offers, if it cost 100 dollars yet still has mtx, I'm fucking off. I may not miss the bullshit older gens did, but gaming was simpler back then, most things were really.
>>2166871You could've had a compelling female character who would've resonated with female survivors of cults, only to crap the bag and turn her into a troon icon. What is it with indies and the need to make everything queer troon bait? Gamers can whine all they want, but nothing compares to the absolute sainty of indie fandoms kek.
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>>2166878>You could've had a compelling female character who would've resonated with female survivors of cultsShe would like a word with you.
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>>2166836>>2166841from my time on the mtf threads, I've noticed that tims (or soon to be tims) are obsessed with the fantasy of a boy being forced to be raised as a girl. like something like that may happened in real life a few times, but it seems to be a common fantasy for the vast majority of tims and even a few fujotifs
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>>2166886other common similarities include believing that crossdressing males are always more beautiful than actual women, and that being an obese moid is the equivalent of having a woman's curves
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>>2166941Early testament filled nicely in that niche before they coomerfied his design as well
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>>2166941Much better when they grow properly.
No. 2167287
>>2167270Yeah because JPfags, especially men are incestfags. Fork found in kitchen, but I would still say the relationships between the girls is still well written compared to other similar slop, especially YukiLisa, MocaRan, and KaoChisa.
>>2167153What do you mean?
No. 2167301
>>2166351Go to any competitive/tourneyslop game lobby and weep.
Jokes aside, here's an example:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-56579449.amp. Cheats in China are basically third party whaling subscriptions and you will be a bronze permastucker forever unless you also buy them. Netcafes offer them by default. Googling something like "Chinese gamers cheating" will give you a lot of milk about the matter.
No. 2167356
>>2167353Its interesting when you make this a generation issue when this this is a human issue, a biology issue.
Humans have been treating women like they are old after their teenage years since human existence.
I hope i reincarnate into another world and a big asteroid blasts this earth causing humans to cease to exist.
No. 2167747
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>>2166939>believing that crossdressing males are always more beautiful than actual womenoften not even cross-dressing males, but whole ass men
No. 2167785
>>2167747'like a girl' is doing a lot of heavy lifting, these are all obviously men kek. Are these people just completely unfamiliar with asians/asian men specifically (especially prettier or better groomed ones)? I know guys who look similar but you'd never mistake them for a woman (hell I'd never describe them as feminine either, they just have different features to eg caucasian men, but they're still clearly masculine in appearance and behaviour). Always a good laugh seeing people treat asian men like they're seeing a rare and exotic flower for the first time kek
>>2167758This too, tired of 'the fairer sex' shit and how anything pretty/cute/beautiful has to be linked to femininity/the female sex rather than be a neutral positive trait
No. 2167810
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>>2167758>>2167785It's so bizarre that people from a hundred years ago understood that male beauty is its own separate thing. Even the most stereotypical "macho" associated men in history were good-looking young men once, whose careers were started by their good looks and Instead of trying to pointlessly hold on to those looks and ending up looking botched (this was the issue with most 90s stars), they allowed themselves to age more naturally, picrel is young clint eastwood
No. 2167981
>>2167882>I lived in delusion that Hi3 and Genshin would converge in their intricate timelines to a wonderful conclusion linking the Hoyo-verse togetherGod I
hope that will never happen. I've always hated the "Genshin is a pocket universe in Honkai" theory or them even existing in the same universe, I wish Genshin to be its own standalone franchise without any meddling from the Honkai lore besides a few fanservice expys at most.
No. 2168008
>>2166796As a major RE fag, I have to admit even Capcom doesn't care that much about the story or characters kek. The inconsistencies over the years always made some lore fans really mad. The remakes are a slap in the face to a lot of old fans, though some are too bitter and fail to admit some positive aspects of them too. All this said I agree with you. I'll say new tiktok fans are divided into two categories, the thirst posts from "leons wife' users who barely know there are games beyond remakes 2 and 4, and the gendies who come up with schizo headcanons. The tiktok users who claim to be into the story and characters honestly piss me off the most, sometimes I wish all they say was how babygirl Leon is because when I read their deluded analysis I feel like I lost some brain cells in the process. I'm oldhag, and I remember RE6 bringing new fans to the franchise, It wasn't a really big hit in the market, but certainly attracted a different audience at the time. A lot of them managed to integrate and become valuable fandom contributors (Sardine being one of them). Admittedly, the influx was far less than the remakes, but that's what really bothers me about the current new fans. I could really turn a blind eye to all the annoying parts if among them we got some fresh, new, fun fans willing to make creative fanarts, fanfics, and discussions. I have yet to see one new fanartirst in the fandom with any sense of quality that isn't drawing Leon thirst, shipping, or redrawing a screenshot from pinterest. The best new art I've seen was commissioned, the original artist isn't even a RE fag.
>>2166807Tbh they mischaracterize every single character, but I agree Ada and Leon get the worst. The fandom wasn't perfect, but it was so much more chill. My gut feeling is that a lot of the old fans genuinely liked the games, they genuinely liked playing them, the enemies, the gameplay, and so on. Now we have people obsessed over the characters on superficial levels and ignoring every other aspect of the games. I still can't get over seeing tumblrinas labeling themselves as true fans while never playing a single game and saying they are being oppressed for being seen as less in the fandom for that. It's a fucking game, for fucks sake.
>>2166811As the other
nonnie said, you should really try RE4R again. It's probably the best remake we'll have. I know people like RE2R (and I do too), but we lost so much of the original in that game. It makes me sad they ditched the zapping system and the lack of sides A and B (we have the same story 4 times, they merged A and B from both characters into a single nonsensical storyline. I could sperg about it, but I sperged enough already in this post). RE4 is still my favorite game to play, but RE4R is still worth your time, overall it's the most faithful so far, you'll notice changes but I think they are mostly all ok if you don't nitpick. The original gameplay is the best one to translate to today's gameplay, the story was fairly simple and short, so they didn't have to adapt as much as they did the others. I think this will be the peak remake we'll ever have. Sorry for sperging so hard nonnies, I'm autistic about this series and I related deeply to the dissatisfaction in your posts.
No. 2168092
>>2166990ryo (the idolm@ster guy) is 15 in both images. pretty sure feris or whatever hasn’t “grown up” either, he’s just from another timeline there. regardless, both characters are drawn indistinguishably from adults in series, as are most anime characters.
>but b-boys post-puberty can’t look like that! boys pre-puberty can’t look like that either, it’s a cartoon.
>>2166821>trooned out an obviously female character nothing was obvious about it? it’s more like they trooned out a gnc male, but even then i’m pretty sure interpreting him as a guy is okay
No. 2168105
>>2168099yeah but of course it’s obvious to us and them that those are just regular, slightly androgynous dudes.
ot but the trend of calling blatant male characters butch lesbians pisses me off. if they were doing it with the intent to genderbend that’s fine but they just want their bl/het ships disguised
No. 2168130
>>2168092>pretty sure feris or whatever hasn’t “grown up” either, he’s just from another timeline there.Nah, it takes place in about 20 years in the future, in a gacha "what if the mc didn't die in this scene and instead ran around with brain damage for 30 years" route.
He does keep looking young though because he's basically an almost immortal healer (the sad joke of his character is despite being the best, he's never able to heal the people he wants to save. The best he can do is crossdress and act like a catboy.)
No. 2168281
>>2168224A lot of things get taken wrong about his character because trannies/moids latched on hard to the way he looks and made up a lot of bullshit.
For instance "Felix" isn't a deadname, "Ferris" is just a nickname given to him by a male friend who later died of a sickness Felix wasn't able to cure.
No. 2168349
>>2166871Every time i play as Marina i just cope to the maximum and imagine her as an actual girl
I even made her a new backstory in my head kek. You can't trust male devs for shit and it's such a shame as the other nona said because religious (cult) abuse is something that affects women fundamentally, just see what's going on with the Opus Dei.
>>2166874Right.. i just hate the fandom so much. Karin as a concept is very interesting as a female war correspondent back in the ~1940s but the fans just want to make her another fetish category, or hate her and want to humiliate/hurt her. Gamer moids are deranged.
No. 2168381
>>2168372Being fair, have you watched/read/played any of the series they're from?
Can't really take either side seriously if they're both just making things up.
No. 2168539
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>>2168441>as they are males dressed like women who pass as female they’re meant to be very youngmale children can’t pass as adult/teenaged women, this is the mentality of right winged men who make towel boy jokes all the time. men can’t pass as women period, it’s a trope that only exists in 2d. plus re:zero and idolm@ster have children characters you can compare felix and ryo with…and adults too. they both more resemble the former than the latter.
No. 2168616
>>2168598Imo they all look different enough to me. One is clearly a child, the other are adults.
Regardless, as far as Felix goes, in his case he was neglected/abused as a child to the point that no matter ehat he does he will always be physically weak. He wanted to do anything in his power to help the girl he loves, and since she's basically an autist on the verge of being gendie he crossdresses for her while she crossdressed as a man until her dad and boyfriend cried and begged her to stop and said she could be a woman and still go into politics and wear pants.
No. 2168649
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>>2167757Is like that infamous "BTS hates terfs" in urfavhatesterfs. And this too. Of course Gods would hate terfs, Antique Greece used to hate women in general.
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>>2166941i agree. this fanart depiction of him is canon in my heart…….
No. 2168690
>>2168676At least in the show, they undo that and he ends up accepting himself as a gay guy, doesn't he?
The design is from Steins Gate Zero, he's a man.
No. 2168727
>>2168604i knew a boy who has long hair and he got mistaken for a girl many times when he was a child. of course that happened because people associate long hair with females, but no one thinks adult men with long hair are women. children possess natural androgyny. adults don't which allows prepubescent boys to be the only kind of male to dress as the opposite sex without it being obvious.
>>2168647i wanted to point out why i think traps are based on children and a pedophilic fetish. i brought up pederasty because in japan, where trap characters come from, pederasty is connected to crossdressing boys. would you say shota characters are also just drawings and therefore not pedophilic? pico is known as a shota, though he doesn't look younger than the traps posted itt.
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>>2168737Put of curiosity
>Ferris is 5'8 (172 cm)>Luka is 5'3 (161 cm)>Ryo is 5'3 (162 cm)nothing shows up for Pico though.
Ferris being that tall is fucking scary ngl.
No. 2168763
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Let's post good traps instead. Picrel is actually a character unlike most on that image.(derailing)
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>>2168769nta but I feel like the nonas that hate male crossdressing/otokonoko hate it because real life men into those things are perverts but 3D is not even remotely like 2D
No. 2168796
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>>2168763My favorite trap is Rimuru
No. 2168819
>>2168737literally not true.
>>2168774i explained why they look like children, even mentioning why generic anime women look like children as well.
>>2168778glad we agree in that case
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>>2168763lin chan ♥
(derailing) No. 2168852
>>2168820i do, i'm a shotacon believe it or not. i'm just tired of trapfaggots denying the truth while openly posting their pedophilic misogyny fetish. at least people who like shota don't pretend they're not attracted to underage boys, 2d or not.
>>2168824put them next to each other and you will see. he's not even that short compared to the adult in the ova.
No. 2169038
>>2168987I haven't read enough of Patalliro to get to this part but KEK Mineo is pushing it with the pregnancy. It's pointless to make a trap functionally female
>>2168993Nah, i like it when artists leave reminders of their malenes or draw them realistically, too. Have you ever heard of suspension of disbelief
>>2168786I just realized where this is sourced from… it's so good nona
No. 2169066
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>>2169024there’s nothing you can do about it
>>2168993anime characters barely look human because cartoon styles are supposed to be exaggerated. bishies also tend look more androgynous
>>2168992projection
No. 2169099
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introducing identity politics to tumblr was such a mistake. I remember a very distinct and radical change in fandom etiquette from 2012-2013. People became so much more hateful. There is something about the combination of being in fandoms + the queer community that breeds such nasty superiority complexes in everyone it touches. It’s like people have gotten comfortable with being so nasty, it drives anyone worth keeping in fandom spaces out, your artists and writers, because they don’t want to put up with the negativity. who could blame them??
No. 2169102
>>2169038>Nah, i like it when artists leave reminders of their malenes or draw them realistically, too99% of these people would say that these characters are meant to be little girls (which they basically are in function)
>>2169066nta but posting prepubescent children to 'own' us is pretty troonish
No. 2169104
>>2168786i agree, but i also think it's anger that they can't coom to it, plus they come from some mirror dimension where it isn't an extremely niche fetish. like i get that ironic femboy memes are in right now, but that's not really otoko no ko/trap content, and a lot of "femboys" don't actually like draw girl call boy.
>inb4 some retard tells me men everywhere actually love it not really. i've seen guys seethe over it and insist a femboy should be more masculine/androgynous. they aren't really a monolith
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>>2169101> some media the topics of politics are completely unavoidable and it can be frustrating.my problem is that you can never expect a tumblrite to address any important issue that requires maturity and thoughtfulness, with maturity and thoughtfulness. Hetalia has nothing on the amount of absolute insensitive bullshit and graceless tact, and hell-raising that has become online sj discourse. fat annoying autistic bitches with the emotional regulation of a cornered hamster are not in any position, to be talking about important issues in society.
No. 2169349
>>2169345The irony poisoning phenomenon is real. Nobody
actually likes anything because that would make you vulnerable and open for mockery for
liking a thing. I.e. someone could attack you for that trait alone and embarrass you. So everyone just likes things on a surface level and ironically to shield themselves from being genuinely invested in something that could get them judged. Liking a game's lore or gameplay mechanics is cringe because you can't coom to or meme that. Actually wanting to discuss a character's story according to strictly the official canon is gatekeeping and should be frowned upon because not everyone has the time or money to watch/read/play it and even if they did they don't want to be embarrassing nerds finding enjoyment in genuine attraction to things.
No. 2169670
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Is anyone else getting s vibe that fandoms don’t feel like fandoms anymore or is it just me?
No. 2169681
>>2169669I don't even like traps but it's funny because it's true kekw somebody feels
triggered because her celeb crush is most likely a rapist and she cannot goon to him anymore
No. 2169684
>>2169681The original post was about traps turning into not traps anyway,
showing what the opposite of what happened to Bridget looks like. People getting mad at that seems more
sus than anything.
No. 2169694
>>2169670>they have no interest in engaging with the material beyond regurgitating what is explicitly given in canonkek I wish, what rock has this person been living under? many fans give the impression that they've only caught a glimpse of canon while speeding past and using it as an aesthetic to prop up their OC-level or plain delusional headcanons/'analysis'
the desire for things to be made canon and therefore real and
valid has been around for ages, with some notable examples causing shifts in fandom behaviour during the 2010s (that destiel letter thing for an older example, but klancers and the klible feel like a blueprint for current behaviour, and the attention fans get for corrective headcanons/full rewrites or redesigns hasn't helped either in changing the general culture/vibe of fandoms as a concept). I'm sure the attitude has been around for ages, but the way fandom functions in the social media environment lets it effect the broader community further.
the idea that fandom content is transformative and therefore this cool magical enlightened activity rather than a bit of fun also leads to this nonsense. don't intellectualise (or moralise) your hobbies, just enjoy them unironically ffs.
No. 2169697
>>2169684>People getting mad at that seems more sus than anything.agreed.its more
sus since traps are always liked more by troons or coomers so..
No. 2169708
>>2169670Idk, but I don’t completely agree with the tweet you posted. Enjoying a story for what it is without wanting to change or add on to it does not mean you don’t want to be in fandom.
For example, fan fiction isn’t my thing, but I do look at (and make) visual fan art. I’ve never been into shipping or AUs either, instead preferring art that depicts characters close to how they are in canon (although even canon fan art is filtered through the artist’s own style and view of the original work). This isn’t a lack of interest in fandom.
I do see where this person is coming from with the idea that people can make fan works that deviate from canon without wanting their additions to become canon.
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No. 2169826
>>2169670This is very much a specific experience lol
I disagree. I'm personally tired of engaging with people who only have a passing familiarity with the media they're supposedly fans of and dedicate hours of art, fics, posts, analysis about it.
gatekeeping is actually good
No. 2169831
>>2169670It all depends on what you want from fandoms, I realised a long time ago that I have no patience for talking about non-canon shit, headcanons, non-canon ships etc just bore me. It starts useless ship wars and eventually boils down to the same cut and paste tropes over and over again. For most stories it just doesn't make sense to me to attach all this time talking about non-canon ideas. That's basically what twitter fandom is
I prefer actually talking about what the story is about, the themes, the characters, theorising about future events (only works if the story is ongoing) even Watsonian vs Doylaist conversations seem interesting. I really like fanart but have mixed feelings about fanfics (if it wasn't obvious) I noticed I only gravitate towards fanfics when the story itself feels weirdly underdeveloped but that's also a sign for me to jump ship tbh
I'm going to be honest, twitter fandoms are very active but rarely do they feel like they're actually talking about…the story they're obsessing over. It's a very weird experience.
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>>2169099What you said 1000% also picrel
I think politics + fandom on tumblr caused people to become massive moralfags. They just don't like something no it's 'offensive'
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>>2169865I felt uncomfortable admitting it to myself because the first time I saw someone putting it to towards was this tumblr post which essentially went "transformative fandom = women = good (tumblr)" "curative fandom = men = bad (reddit)" and I was so embarrassed to accept that in the eyes this somewhat viral post I was basically a redditor
Obviously now people dropped the gendering of the whole thing and just stick to "transformative/curative" fandom but it's still very much "feminine/masculine" but no one likes to say that. Makes me feel very weird.
>Most of the time it's a lot of "well I think the author is stupid and they probably don't think as hard of the characters as I do," This is your sign to look for something else, no need to keep yourself chained. Unless it's an adaptation and you want to set the showrunners on fire which is
valid.
No. 2169962
>>2169831Even fanart is boring in twitter fandom, it's mostly thirst drawings. When it's done by people who are into the story they tend to go beyond a hot character looking at the void in a sexy pose.
>>2169865>I think the author is stupid and they probably don't think as hard of the characters as I dokek and every single time, the people who say this have a list of the most delusional headcanons possible.
>>2169886In all honesty, I like both curative and transformative parts of fandoms, both can be annoying in different ways, but also be very entertaining and interesting. Curative is dying among all types of fans though, including supposedly Redditors males. I swear to god, most men in fandoms mostly want to wank to characters and whine about minor things. I follow a few fans who like talking about canon restrictively, and they are so rare and underappreciated, a dying breed. Transformative fandom was always a guilty pleasure I indulged on the sides, when it's good it's incredibly good and fun. When it's bad, it's tragically bad. I feel there's more bad than good, while also not having a lot in between.
No. 2169999
>>2169972Yeah, I feel the same, and even back then when male fans would supposedly discuss lore, a lot of times they would get into retarded slapfights over minor shit or force their opinions as some official and true interpretation. They forced some fake philosophical allegory to try sounding deep when it was clearly not the author's intention at all and it barely made any sense with the lore, when anyone would confront them, they would claim you were too dumb to understand their super deep and true interpretation. Now that they managed to make every possible character in existence some form of cooming material, they don't give a shit, it's all a different flavour o fetish for each character. The best essays, fanarts, and fanfics are still made by women hands down. Even if the quality declined overall, there are some diamonds to be found.
No. 2170132
>>217009222 is still very young, you should fully bask in the Sonic autism
nonnie, don't feel ashamed
No. 2170147
>>2170051Eventually when discussions run dry and when fanart is stale I probably moved on to something else. There are a few pieces of media that I always revisit but there's also so much out there to explore.
I'm sorry I just don't see the point in engaging in non-canon material to that extent. It just doesn't make sense to me.
nonnie what do you do? I'm curious.
No. 2170148
>>2170074>Why invest time into learning the real canon when Disney can buy it up and turn canon into non-canon in an instant?Tbh if you're talking about Star Wars, people still care about the EU or whatever it's called.
The problem is that the new stuff Disney is putting out sucks and fans refuse to integrate it into the canon
It's quite fascinating to see
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>>2167747unironically brainrot
No. 2170298
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>sensible post about online fandom, fandom opinions and shipping
>random scrote thinks it's about untagged cheesecake and porn
No. 2170315
>>2170051Personally, I either drift of and find something new, or, for a select few pieces of media, just find some new angle to approach it in art or fic. I think people tend to underestimate just how far you can play with even mediocre media if you like to ask 'what ifs' or explore more niche aspects of a character's actions/personality/design within the canon setting, especially if you like to play around with unusual character combos or the piece of media has a larger ensemble cast, or want to chew on a concept or theme within the broader story/setting. However, while I can keep spinning ideas that stay within the bounds of canon years after the source material has ended, the frequency/output slows way down (and I'm not even particularly fast or productive during 'peak times' within fandoms kek).
Also, just on the topic of 'transformative fandom', I think the fandom aspect ends once your fan content becomes impenetrable to a newcomer who's only consumed the source material– at that point it's time to go make original content.
No. 2170397
>>2170301In canon he's supposed to be very attractive, have a pretty, delicate face, but he's also tall, fit and strong. And he was more popular with women than Gojo before he started committing crimes. But the art style doesn't really convey that in the manga and he looks weird in the first season and the movie, it's only believable thanks to the second season having a different character designer. As for why it's almost always Geto who gets the "he should be a woman" treatment by fans, I've seen some crazy shit on twitter from some of his fans, I don't even know where to start. Usually it's just because he has long hair, earrings and is slightly more polite than the average male character in this series.
>>2170357Please don't tell me your confusing Geto (the guy with the big ear lobes and priest robe) with Toji (the actual deadbeat dad).
No. 2170500
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>>2165407related to this, I fucking despise the modern fantasy trend of having physically weak characters always using bows while strong characters wield swords or clubs. It's ahistorical and not even physically possible, archery requires a ton of upper body strength(essentially lifting a weight tens of times over a meter. And you can't let your hands shake at all, otherwise you'll miss and all that effort would be useless). my brother whose bigger than me but not as skilled, can effortlessly draw a 75 lb recurve bow, whereas I struggle with, but in almost every modern fantasy depiction, the archer is portrayed as a small, rail-thin person, this isn't me saying that fantasy archers should only be super well built young men but for either sex, archers should look like they have the strength to actually pull a bow
No. 2170505
>>2170500This is a nitpick I never understood, if everyone in fantasy wielding a weapon was jacked as fuck because of muh realism the party would look like an olympic athletics team. The only scrawny ones would probably be the healers and wizards without any cool weapons and that would be boring and restrictive. I'm personally completely fine with weak looking people swinging huge swords or axes around or wielding a bow and whatnot because it allows more variety with the characters and their combat.
The only disparity I have a complain about is that muscular women are way too uncommon in all genre of fiction including fantasy. Like even when a female character is canonically obsessed with being strong and athletic she still has a very soft, scrawny body with no visible muscle.
No. 2170528
>>2170500This trope pains me as well kek, I'm not even asking for characters to have the full muscle definition of a career archer/bow hunter, but they gotta at least have
some instead of arms that look like they've never lifted anything heavier than an apple (plus any shot, especially a slo-mo, showing a draw and release will always look cooler
and more convincing if you can see the strain and release of energy in the arm as well as in the bow and arrow). Give the scrawny waifs slings, they require basic levels of strength, maintain the accuracy component of being an archer character, and can cave in a skull.
Tbh I could also rant about how non-noblewomen female characters are also depicted as soft and lacking any definition despite ostensibly doing regular hard labour, or any wear such as calluses (so tired of fiction pretending callused hands are exclusively a male/male fighter thing in particular, especially to compare to the soft, uncallused hands of the heroine… despite her also being some rough and tumble sort like a Katniss-expy or thief), in both period pieces and fantasy, but I'll stop kek
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Not sure why she single out Relyo, it’s just another dark ML/chosen one FL that has existed since girls started writing fanfics
No. 2170900
>>2170698And they argue in bad faith all the time. Scrotes conflate shit like women shipping 16-year old manga characters with defined characters in a high school setting to the same ballpark as a man drawing grotesque rape porn of a prepubescent girl. They absolutely know there's a tonal difference but pretend they don't.
>>2170883This is actually a real problem in publishing. Publishers are scouting actual fanfic writers who take their shitty wattpad smut fanfics, change the names around and put it between covers while people who are trying to get their original story published are turned away because they're harder to exploit.
No. 2170921
>>2170883from what I understand, there is some kind of reylo-to-published-author group/clique that have found success and (possibly) help each other out or something within the romance genre, but it's small and really not as impactful as other fanfic-to-'original' books have been that pre-date them. Reylo is just a tumblr whipping ship, it's very mediocre/simple and yet it sends a bunch of users frothing mad at a mere mention kek.
The supposedly superior fanfics aren't getting picked up for original publication because they're likely both too entrenched in the source material so are harder to fix for print by simple name changing, and also aren't doing high enough numbers (to go back to reylo, possibly due to the lack of substance in the sequel trilogy and the ship's fans being uninterested in the larger franchise canon, has a lot of extremely distant AUs as highly popular fics, which are much easier to spin into their own thing since the characters are already being used more like an actor cast in a role than themselves as star wars characters who do and think star wars things). Porn also gets more hits because people will find it through smut tags as well as fandom ones, so some readers aren't even in the fandom itself.
Also tbh I feel like the people who write the legitimately good fics either just don't have the ego to try and file the serial numbers off and get it published or are working on original books anyway and would rather publish those. For some, writing fic is just a fun hobby they get to share with others, and that's enough.
No. 2171009
>>2170883Straight up delusion. Gay shippers aren't any more normal than het shippers.
>>2170921Manacled got picked up and the author is apparently doing a 2+ year long rewrite to try and transplant the HP setting to her own original one. So I agree. The lore heavy fics aren't going to be worth the effort to get them into a publishable state unless they're super mega popular.
No. 2171687
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>>2171667Tbf most of those throw fujoshi under the bus as disgusting fetishizers.
Not sure if yume are other fic authors do the same, guess some of the Harry Potter ones do.
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>>2169512see picrel, It's meant to come across as 'badass' or something, but you know the real artist went through this and meekly said nothing and again queers, furries, western communists, radfems etc are all like this
No. 2171920
>>2171789>their first book gets mildly popular, publishers greenlights sequels but no one ever buys them cause no one ever actually cared about the first books, they were just virtue signallingits okay
nonnie you can say the atlas six and the poppy war
No. 2171965
>>2171920nta but Kuang is super popular regardless, even if every good review about her books is jerking themselves off about how woke it makes them (especially Babel) despite the author being the embodiment of a 1%er but we all know wealth is somehow on the bottom of the totem pole of wokeness.
Somewhat related but it sucks because you can never have proper criticism about these kind of stories in those spaces because someone will just call you racist/homophobic, or my favorite "you just don't get it"
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>>2171920poppy-war is a weird case, it's not inspired by the harry potter or any popular ya fantasy. It's literally just a beat for beat retelling of the second sino-japanese war but with fantasy armies, name changes and mao zedong as a teenage ya heroine
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>>2172440pedophilia is a global thing. for most of human history, children were getting raped by adults, it isn’t a japan-specific issue. in the modern era plenty of the world still allows child marriage to some point or otherwise has a freakishly low age of consent. you can stop your dumb crusade against japan now
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Everyone in this screenshot is retarded
No. 2173358
>>2173129In all honestly I don't know why is it stressing you up. We don't know people's private life, enjoyeing someone's work (from a singer to a youtuber) and later finding out that person turned out to be a terrible human has happened to almost every single person.
I can assure you no one is gonna think you support that person, you don't even have to lie if someone ever confronts you about it, that was years ago and you were clueless.
>I'm very regretful that I didn't do my research back thenStop having the mindsent terminally online 14yo have, normal people don't "do research" on people they like.
And in any case, always remember that whatever shitty thing you have done in the past, men have done it x5 worse and probably still think they were on the right, so don't think much about it. Just move on with your life.
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MLP is the worst thing to ever happen to glorified toy commercials. Now grown autistic men feel like they matter whenever some horse toy tie in show for little girls pops up. They should have never been pandered to at all.
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No. 2173910
>>2173416i think it's the tiktok zoomers or gen alphas or whatever who sees it as some holy grail juxtaposed to wattpad or any other "bad" quality fanfic sites and also think it's super edgy to use ao3 because muh
problematic ships and fics
No. 2173931
>>2173416it's got a good tagging system, gets high traffic, and probably still enjoys the lingering halo of general greater quality that it had for a reputation from the early days when it was invite-only and a lot of fandom big names moved there from ffnet and LJ. It also feeds people their porn, and people always defend/champion their coom sources kek.
imo ao3 fic does tend to be better quality than I've found on other sites, but I think that's also fandom (sometimes even ship or character) dependent, rather than much to do with the site itself.
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>>2173412Oh it's that bridgerton couple with claire and an ugly guy that always make me think of this scene
No. 2174401
>>2174373For sure, though. It's like a rite of passage. People who were embarrassing weebs in their teens try so hard to distance themselves from it that they direct their anger towards Japan as a nation and go from idolizing them to outright demonizing with the "ackshually Japan is a nation for homophobic racist misogynist pedophiles" narrative because they saw out of context myths being posted on tiktok by people who might genuinely be racist
(or Chinese shills). It's this strange form of orientalism that makes them believe all the mythical things altrighters think makes Japan "based". In reality most people in Japan are regular normies living their lives not very different from how people in other developed countries are.
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>>2173467Wild Manes looks cute,I'd rather watch that than this bean mouth shit anyday.
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ukrainian and other european activists are mad that robin will be played by russian actress(even though she's lived in germany her entire life)
No. 2174965
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How easy is it to find people in fandom who are just shippers who don’t care about the sexuality of their ships and just ship whichever characters they like paired together? It’s crazy baffling to me looking from the outside in how obsessed everyone is including all of you about whether it’s het or yaoi or not like why can’t that not matter?
No. 2175011
>>2174352I've gotten old enough to not care for the IP but autists still cling to it like it's still relevant, not knowing it'll never reach it's peak again. Lauren try to move on with other things too but it's clear none of them caught on or really had the same hold like g4 had.
>>2174965Impossible. When 2016 happened, everyone collectively lost their minds after that. Now you gotta deal with 14 year olds calling you acephobic for shipping a sociopath with anyone.
No. 2175072
>>2175052How the fuck did it even get this bad? I would unironically watch a Sarah Z style video on the history of fandom devolving into two extremely polarized political camps. It fucking hurts that I can't explore
toxic relationships and abuse in art and writing without getting lumped in with literal pedophiles. I want to say it started getting collectively worse in 2013 when Attack on Titan made anime mainstream but also I was a young teenager then which may skew my viewpoint as I saw people condemning fictional incest in Harry Potter fandom on livejournal as early as 2002.
No. 2175082
>>2175074Extremely watered down versions of it. I want to explore themes of sexual abuse and the type of control an abuser has over their
victim that makes them feel hopeless and like everything is their fault and they can never escape and even if they do, they deserve to die because of their perceived wrong-doings. Not a lot of people today have the reading comprehension to understand depiction isn't endorsement when it comes to that kind of thing. I'm a recovering
victim of abuse and it feels genuinely cathartic to me to write these things, in the type of way where I feel adrenaline rushing to my head, it's probably the feeling of retaking control, but a lot of people want to say it's an "unhealthy" way to cope and say people who write these things are bad people projecting their desires, so it kind of forces people who are into actual dark themes based on people who are grown and not related to each other into spaces with gooner pedophiles.
No. 2175105
>>2175074Their idea of
toxic yaoi is bakugo and deku.
No. 2175222
>>2175074>>2175075>>2175105The words “
toxic yuri” make me think of Chell/GLaDOS, which I think is a pretty popular ship among millennial/zoomer women into Portal.
No. 2175298
>>2175138What? Yes they have.
t. zoomzoom
No. 2175309
>>2175072Kek I don't know at this point, but I'm just tired of almost everybody I meet having an 'ew icky hets' or 'ew lesbos/fags ruining my perfect ship' attitude and finding some sort of excuse to be super uppity and annoying. Like I said you'd be hard-pressed to find someone that isn't a fandom activist retard even on lolcor. Is there even a double digit number of people left on the internet that aren't sexuality spergs?
>It fucking hurts that I can't explore toxic relationships and abuse in art and writing without getting lumped in with literal pedophiles.More and more proshippers have started to include actual pedophiles (muh MAPs) and zoophiles under the guise of fandom activism as well as other cowish activities, so I've been out. The whole group is incredibly annoying so do your own thing, but it's unfortunate you'll be grouped anyway
No. 2175416
>>2175074they want
toxic yuri/yaoi without any depth or complication, just the aesthetics of the thing
No. 2175440
>>2175309Yeah, I've seen a concerning amount of people here feeding into that fandom activism mentality, though I'm not about to start any infighting. It's just such a huge thing that it kind of can't be helped. Antishippers feel scared to step out of line and be socially ostracized, and proshippers feel scared to be within the line of fire of antishippers so they get pushed deeper into spaces with genuine degenerates which can't be good for anyone's mental health, on either side. I had a phase where I refused to engage with other artists for a good while out of fear of having to pick a camp, but I really just want to chill.
Honestly, I wish more people would use their critical thinking, because why do we include forgettable harem romcom trash incest anime in the same boat as people drawing toddlercon rape? This is what I mean when I say people are pushed into darker places for the sake of momentary self preservation, why can't we just judge people on a case by case? Fandom is not activism but kids treat it as such. Unpopular opinion, but The Coffin of Andy and Leyley was so weirdly fearmongered as something that was clearly done for shock value and never not once attempted to condone anything going on here beyond "haha! taboo things done causally is funny!", yet it was received basically like the fandom version of the satanic panic. It's really not that serious and only serves to drive vulnerable people into darker places and develop weird self image issues.
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>>2171829A good example is Ti-Grace Atkinson, She was a radical feminist who advocated for "violent revolution against men and capitalism" Well In 1971, while she giving a lecture at a Catholic University, she called the Virgin Mary a used whore and a Catholic woman slapped Atkinson. This one slap made Atkinson rethink her entire ideology on violence and sisterhood (because "sisterhood leads to this level of bloodshed"), She apparently was traumatised because of this
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>>2175489she used to pull stuff like that all the time in feminist/leftist spaces. Like one time during a conference about violence against women, she showed up wearing Vietnamese Pajamas, praised a dead mafia boss and said that feminists should be like him "outlaws"
No. 2175517
>>2175515You act like I didn't go fact check her.
>Before an audience of 800, Atkinson said the Virgin Mary was more “used” than if she had participated in a sexual conception.Yeah, she called Mary a whore and got hit for it.
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>>2175513nta but this wasn't unique to radfems, around that time, maoism was very influential with the western left, If you wanted to prove you were a real revolutionary, you had to talk about how totally radical and violent you were, how many cops you totally beat up and how much property you destroyed. everyone was doing this, feminists, leftists, and anarchists. The fact that these were all out-of-shape nerds didn't matter, it was the style at the time, picrel
No. 2175564
>>2175477If a slap traumatized her then she was nothing but a fraud lol
>>2174965Fandom spaces not tainted by US gender propaganda are still like this and still host some classic spergouts, like LATAM fandoms and Russian fandom, but sadly zoomers and younger millennials still get infected by this ideology in droves.
No. 2175803
>>2174912>>2174913fr. They are just gonna get someone who looks closest to Robin and leave it at that. Only americans are super
triggered by this.
No. 2176033
>>2175477>religious figure of debatable existence has one (1) child through immaculate conception>still gets called a used whoreIf she were active (alive?) today she would call Virgin Mary used goods who hit the wall. Really gets my nogging jogging.
>>2176026Straight.
No. 2176194
>>2176068As if it isn't a recent trend by self-proclaimed fujos to trans the uke of their ship and turn him into a cuntboy because obviously taking it up the ass means you're secretary a woman.
Seriously, I ship m/m almost exclusively, but I avoid reading fics or looking at fanart of my favourite characters because the the Western yaoi fandom is gendie infested. If it wasn't so obvious that in 90% of her fanfics the author sees herself as the female character getting railed by her husbando I'd have long since switched over to m/f. Gendies are ruining yaoi.
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>>2175075similarly, 'doomed yaoi/yuri' is just a twitter way of saying slash ships that are not ever going to be canon, which applies to all of them
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what do you think of the hate against the new twst character?
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>>2176277looks like another Belphegor clone
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>>2176295Husbando mentioned and literally no one else ever mentions him on this site. Sorry nonna I gotta autism real quick. I’ve seen the comparison but I personally don’t see it outside of the crown.
No. 2176340
>>2176325>enemies to loversI'm so tired of seeing this everywhere, it's like you said, it's never a pairing with an actual enemy dynamic, it's always just 'characters who are rude to each other, maybe, and then they bang', which, fine, whatever, but that's more an idk, tsundere ship than people who are genuine enemies/oppose each other eventually managing to come together and develop a relationship. If it's not that, and this goes especially for published examples of 'enemies to lovers', it's just a domineering man who verbally belittles a woman who is never on equal footing with him nor does she give as good as she gets… so, regular romance genre nonsense but with a marketable trope name slapped onto it and no other changes to the usual song and dance.
No. 2176400
>>2176248The way I see people using it, just feels to mean that it's a relationship that was destined to fail from the start. By fail it could mean that it was just never going to work out and the people involved are all the more worse for it. It's a tragedy that you can't prevent blah blah blah
I've seen it used on het couples as well.
I personally love the idea but only found it appealing for one couple (who are unfortunately hetero) it's a very sad relationship but I like it
>>2176325Madoka/Homura are very much "doomed lesbians" but the show doesn't really have them as a couple. It's a very one sided relationship from Homura who throws herself over and over to save Madoka. You're entitled to think it's platanoic but the intensity of her relationships make her seem BPD so people just go "oh lesbians" (not that I mind, it's my preferred interpretation)
No. 2176405
>>2169831>I realised a long time ago that I have no patience for talking about non-canon shit, headcanons, non-canon ships etc just bore me…I prefer actually talking about what the story is about, the themes, the characters, theorising about future events…I'm going to be honest, twitter fandoms are very active but rarely do they feel like they're actually talking about…the story they're obsessing over. It's a very weird experience.holy shit nona, you put exactly how i feel about fandom into words. i relate a lot to what was described in this post too
>>2169886 because i'm very much into curative fandom and never enjoyed transformative fandom content, it always felt cringy to me. i strictly like talking about the canon, analyzing the characters and going very in-depth with plot subtext analysis and even just discussing how much i enjoy certain stylistic elements in the way the media was filmed and edited; i keep my thoughts (and obsessive spreadsheets and charts kek) to myself because online, it's all just fanart, AU fanfiction, "what do you think this character would do in this made-up scenario!" posts, etc. and not in-depth media analysis sperging like i'd want to engage in with others so it felt pointless trying to be apart of it. i know i'm an outlier in this sense and most people just want to have fun and sort of "make the characters their own" but oh well.
>>2169962>I follow a few fans who like talking about canon restrictively, and they are so rare and underappreciated, a dying breed.i love this nona, thank you for supporting them ♥
No. 2176408
>>2176398Yes
>>2176405different anon, I do love headcanons etc within talking to friends who enjoy the same works etc but I appreciate you all. It does suck when things because AU's and the like that are so reaching they have nothing in common with the actual work anymore.
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most popular voted f/f ships
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I kek'd so hard at this tea about LnD stealing yaoi lines
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absolute delusion
No. 2177033
>>2176504I think it starts with self inserting and it just snowballs into “modern au with 9-5” or “medieval au”
I’m about to sound very hypocritical but I’ve grown to have complicated feelings about fanfics. I used to hate them and mostly view it as negative but lately a show i’ve been was disappointing and i started looking at fanfics to basically “fix” the shitty season because I unfortunately like the characters or had a certain expectation from the show. I still find some of the AU fics to be unreadable and veering into “maybe move on?” But if something is so attached to an original source material yet you still want to write about it, maybe that’s better than pretending your story isn’t actually South Park BL
No. 2177036
>>2176437Funniest thing is when these people get their hands on tv, cartoons, and movies
It’s so obvious and embarrassing
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>>2177042>>2177045I can't speak Chinese, but apparently they stripped the lines directly from a CN fan tl of a KR webtoon, only changing a few characters.
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>>2176277I didn't like him at first because its the first instance in twst where I thought he looked like another character that wasnt already Tobosos, but artists are making him weird and I hope the game takes that route when the event is out.
I love my shitty ikemen game, I cant wait to see who voices this fucker
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>>2170296I try not to hate fujos, but I swear gojo/geto fujos are probably the worst, they are so fucking annoying
No. 2177352
>>2176879>>2176881>>2177048Not surprised, chinese otomes or visual novels are known for being steamrolling garbage (atleast the ones that i see getting localised). Ive looked at chinese vn's that get localised and they always look low quality with terrible translations.
>>2177015?? This is more of a chinese otome issue than it is with whatever hateboner you have. Chinese visual novels are known for being badly produced, not being technically wall made, having terrible translations etc etc ive played chinese BL vn and they were kinda bad
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sorry for asking in this thread but some nonnies may be able to help.
What do you think of the game franchise ''devil may cry'', is it a good game worth playing? is it male-gaze and targeted too much to a male audience?
Are there weird or sus moments in the game towards women or girls?
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>>2177256I like Satosugu/Sugusato but I have noticed that some top Gojo/bottom Geto shippers feminize Geto to the extent that he loses whatever personality he has, and it almost feels like he is a self-insert for the shippers. There is one Vietnamese artist - getoswomb, who takes this to an extreme. She uses female pronouns when referring to Geto, writes extensively about Geto and femininity, and frequently draws him barefoot and pregnant with Gojo’s children. It almost makes me wonder why she doesn't ship Gojo/Utahime instead.
No. 2177446
>>2177432god this artist is so schizo, iirc she also drew gojo
as a dog fucking fem geto. how coomerbrained do you have to be to get to this point good god.
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>>2177352I do believe you about shitty chinese VN translations in general (translation of chirality, the last chinese BL I played was absolutely terrible during hscenes, with lines like "press against the deep part of the colon"), but I must ask- are there that many localized chinese otome? The only one I've played is my vow to my liege, and it was quite excellent in terms of writing and had a very strong minded, logical and capable mc. I also played Soulslayer (also great), but it wasn't really otome but a murder mystery with a female mc.
No. 2177462
>>2177432I always wonder what made girls in my country obsess over cuntboys that much. They collectively melt down everytime this was mentioned
t.Vietnamese
No. 2177505
>>2177481I don't mind it but i also don't get the point of cuntboy x male. It'd make more sense for a yumefag ('i like husbando, i have this weird fetish, i'll draw my husbando with a vagina'). Anything else looks like regular self-inserting with extra steps
>>2175309The most baffling thing about this is that it's adults doing this..?
No. 2177512
>>2177432I expected some horrifying art since the filename is "eyebleach.png" but wow she didn't even draw him looking like a bloated man, he straight up looks like an asian pregnant woman in the most cute and demure family art ever (except the one where he sucks on the boob, ew).
Honestly I'm glad I don't know the source material right now.
No. 2177592
>>2177367Devil May Cry is very fun.
Story is whatever, they don't even try tbh but it's fun to try and piece together a coherent story with autistic fans
The point is to have fun and make cool combos, or just have fun because combos are hard (yes I know skill issue).
DMC has quite a few fan service towards both male and female audiences but it also depends on what you consider to be fanservice. I think there's more obvious male fanservice
No. 2177596
>>2176689One of these ships is hilarious because it's single handedly ruining the show and caused the creator of the original book to write an entire blogpost against just one tiny criticism
I know he hates the ship so much.
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All of a sudden adaptations shouldn't make changes and should stick to the source material because you perceive these changes to be a betrayal of it
seethe
No. 2177608
>>2177607I think male fans are just trying to navigate the hellscape that is shipping culture.
I noticed that shipping is becoming less gendered but it kind of depends on the media and if it has a large amount of female fans
But it's always funny to see because of shit like
>"my goat Gojo can't take it up the ass!" No. 2177633
>>2177608Yes it's the funniest shit because instead of being like "it's gay I don't want to see that shit" they actual try to be more logical about it and it makes them look like they actually care about yaoi shit. Sometimes they argue among themselves over this without any actual fujoshi intervening and talk about mpreg (especially with Geto I guess) or who's a top or a bottom unprompted.
Another one is when there was that one panel of
Kenjaku as a female nurse and some guys where like "we need to show this to Gojo so he can come back to life because Geto as a woman looks hot" right after arguing that Gojo and Geto are just close male friends and it's platonic between them. No. 2177752
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is a thread discussing the class of 09 drama? dev apparently added a lot of unironic and dead serious foot fetish + /pol/shit to the game. at first i was like “it’s always been south park what gives” but some of these caps don’t seem to have a punchline unless the joke is how absurd it is
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>>2177752No doubt the developer is a porn-addict, but the weirdly topical Palestine quip in one of the endings made me think he's also trying to scare off the TikTok Zoomer side of the fanbase.
Courtesy spoiler, pic is aforementioned ending featuring one of the MCs in her underwear. No. 2177777
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>>2176277Ughhhhhfjg
I kind of like him and I don't even care for Gojo wth is happening to me. No. 2177841
>>2177804I legit thought it was just an edited comic panel.
>>2177800Edgy nihilistic 4chan teen boys are literally the worst possible audience you could ever attract so good luck to him ig kek. Inb4 he just gets popular with TIFs instead.
No. 2177943
>>2177800The EXACT same thing happened with yandere sim, it would be hilarious that these terminally autistic 4chan incels are such retards they can't even comprehend they're making slop only preteen girls would be into if it didn't always end with them attempting to groom said zoomer fanbase. At the very least these retarded obese "gamedev" NEETs don't leave the house and keep their grooming strictly on discord which their
victims can easily screenshot and expose them with as soon as they turn 16-17 and wise up
No. 2178062
>>2177943>>2177919this phenomenon has occurred a few times, probably the most famous case was with Supernatural, where the intended audience was young males and while some males did watch, the majority audience ended up being mostly women. The creator of Class 09 wanted an older mixed audience, but now one's ended up playing were mostly young women and girls, which freaked him out and now he's trying to shock them into leaving his project alone
videl, there's more fan-art and fics of the characters from a single april fools video, then any of yandere dev's other works
No. 2178097
>>2178081>>2178062Teen girls are more likely to like "edge".
Same reason why K-on and Yuru Camp have higher male audience while stuff like Golden Kamuy manage to lean female despite looking like it'd appeal to gay men more.
No. 2178139
>>2178102I'm
>>2178081 and yeah this is exactly why it confuses me so much, as far as I've understood it's more like 12-year old boy edgy, not teenage girl edgy. Then again those genres have a surprising amount of overlap.
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>>2178081y2k trend + zoomers love edgy humor, doesn’t matter if they’re male or female. you also could claim “
toxic yuri!1!1!1” cred by being into it, i’d also argue the first game (only one i’ve played) had weirdly feminist messaging. it at least approached the ~female experience~ in good, black faith. the humor was also rarely at the expense of le
poc (or other groups that’d make zoomies squeal bloody murder), it actively made fun of nazis and incels and pedophiles so i guess it is a bit weird that the creator decided to go back on all that [spoiler{i’m guessing he has, anyway — won’t be able to play flip side until this weekend[/spoiler]
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>>2178198Anyone else confused on why zoomers love the early 2000s so much? They're zoomers, meaning they were literal infants when Y2K even started. Nostalgia how? They most likely weren't conscious of any "culture" until the
late 2000s and early 2010s. It's like if millenials became nerdy and spergy about 70s "vibes" and disco even though they were literal babies when the 70s was even still relevant.
No. 2178216
>>2178215They
are late millenials. I'm telling you this isn't a specific zoomer trait. "I was born in the wrong generation" types were already memed to death before zoomers ever logged on.
No. 2178228
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>>2178225I love Yume Nikki and I'm a fnafag. Take a wild guess.
No. 2178244
>>2178225One side are moids and gendies, the other side are Japanese housewives.
Seeing them fight over fan art uploads and edits, mostly.
No. 2178260
>>2178253That doesn't make sense either,
everything is oversaturated now due to overproduction of entertainment. The question is why do they feel the need to hetify gay ships when there are spades of get content already available. This does not happen at nearly the same frequency in the opposite direction (gaying hetships) so I'm confused. What is it that makes them choose the hetbending route rather than shipping het straight from the get go?
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>>2178198i don't understand why media that is obviously made by channers attracts a zoomer gendie fanbase. With South Park and Smiling friends I'll give it a pass cause they're adult comedies thus will always get normies. But class of 09 is literally just snoot game with better writing. Why are zoomers calling this shit feminist, i hate "media literacy"-fags.
No. 2178313
>>2177806>Might be about heathcliff being a moor?wuthering heights was written in the 1800s not 1600s
nonny>>2177836he also got called indian slurs, he was definitely some kind of half south asian
>>2178302I think its that + zoomers self inserting with nicole/jecka like people used to with regina george. zoomers are contradictory in that they want be edgy mean girls that get validation from channers but also get PC when it actually effects them. Its the same thing with the hazbin/helluva boss fanbase. the game had domestic violence, school shooting, the mc joining the kkk and terrorist attack. But the foot fetish shit is the line kek.
No. 2178321
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the cope
No. 2178322
>>2178312If it's the exact same then they should be shipping het too, so they are different.
It's probably the same mindset as people moving where the grass seems greener but then taking their problems with them.
They deny they like het dynamics because they're not supposed to, so they set up shop in yaoi land but add the het dynamics because its what they like.
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>>2178321tale as old as time Mindless Self Indulgence, Vivziepop and SBN3 creating edgy media hoping they gain adult audience that appreciates "the social commentary". Only to be stuck with teenage shippers
No. 2178357
>>2178350>they're not goodExcept they are, you’re literally just writing them off because you’re too lazy to read.
>There's a reason only hardcore otaku play them.Why is this an issue? You’re asking for video games with male fanservice which is already in the otaku zone if it’s weeb shit but then writing off an entire genre of it because ‘icky otakus’.
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despite all this drama these fans will still buy SBN3's slop because unlike yandev he doesn't procrasinate releasing his work
>>2178062i have to confess I was a yansim yume shipper fag and have been watching his fall off for a while. Even after the yandev milk got more attention he still had a fanbase of loyal haters kek. He still has "fans" who basically nitpick everything and hang onto the hope that the game will finish thanks to sunk cost fallacy. Which is why he can live off of people hatewatching him and breadcrumbing game updates
No. 2178369
>>2178360>I’m not saying you’re incorrect but most of the people who play video game are men anywayLol are we really going to resort to gender stereotypes on lolcow of all places.
I guess i must be a man now.
No. 2178371
>>2178357Production quality wise they are not good. Also otaku are degenerate subhumans, cope.
>>2178360More and more women are into video games these days, this is just myth.
>>2178361I play VNs myself, I'm just saying we shouldn't have to be restricted to one niche genre.
>>2178366So? It's not enough at all. Just because it's one game mode doesn't mean we should be happy about it.
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>>2178356I feel like Love and Deepspace has more stuff than Nikke, just that collabs are an option with something like Nikke.
No. 2178381
>>2178372Where? Most men I've seen in bioware titles are ugly
>>2178373Nikke has fun gameplay, constant characters, and high quality art at least from what I've seen. I don't like nikke btw
>>2178374>most video game genres don’t really place an emphasis on interpersonal relationships and romanceMisogyny and stereotyping on my lolcow? More likely than you'd think!
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Also
>love and deepspace still oversexualizes its female characters
Lmao
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I feel the same way towards Nier and Bayonetta that the anons her feel towards 09 class.
The robot girl in Nier and Bayonetta are both extremely sexualised yet for some reason i am supposed to find that empowering??? Gay moids keep trying to gaslight me and tell me how these games are empowering and so feminist meanwhile the girl in Nier literally has random camera creep shots of her panties throughout the game for no reason, tight impractical outfits with high heel that show her panties when moving around, there is literally a achievement award that you can get in the game if you try to look up completely under her skirt, one of the other character also tells her ''i want to ** you''. Now for Bayonetta it's slightly better compared to Nier but it still doesn't change how Bayonettas whole personality is just being sexual or a seductress.
Im tired of gay moids and pickmes defending these two games or even daring to call them empowering.
No. 2178392
>>2178383Resident Evil
Devil May Cry
Metal Gear: Rising
Fighting games
MMOs
Castlevania
Do you even play video games holy shit nonna
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>>2178358I loved yandere simulator years ago, I was sort of obsessed with kokona. I would mod the game with posemod and dnspy to make lesbian relationships between all of the female students i shipped. He's never going to finish the game, it's been ten years and he's still focusing on frivolous shit like 1980's mode. Amai came out so rushed one of her elimination events is literally SHITTING on a cake she made kekekek
No. 2178399
>>2178396>another example being Lollipop Chainsaw.Anon I love silly James Gunn humor: the game as much as the next person but literally nothing about this game is remotely empowering or feminist.
If there is feminist video games out there I sure as hell haven’t seen them anyway.
No. 2178404
>>2178391Oh but anon, we should be happy with it since it's totally femgaze and women LOVE wearing revealing clothing for their burqa'd men and you should just suck it up!
Yeah, for a supposed "femgaze" game it sure is shit at doing its job.
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>>2178398>>2178404Couldn't you just… not roll for the conservative outfits and save for revealing ones?
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>>2178396>Yoko Taro is a gooner fuck who gets off to women being uncomfortable.Yeah i remember Yoko defending the sexualisation of 2B in Nier because he ''likes to look at pretty women'' like tf does that have to do with literal creep shots.
>>2178396>Bayonetta actually is empowering because she owns it and brings the sexuality on herself Really? is it worth playing then because some of the screenshots of this game made me feel uncomfortable like those weird ass up face down poses she makes or her personality being just sexy sex mcsex lol
>>2178399Alice madness returns is the only one that i can say is for women. Its a pretty good game, it's currently on sale on steam for any
nonnie interested kek.
No. 2178416
>>2178405Speaking of bait what do you mean Hunger Games and Twilight are women’s power fantasy
>woman almost folds and nearly commits double suicide with a moidTwilight
>predatory relationship>the entirety of New Moon>getting married at 18 and almost immediately having a kid No. 2178428
>>2178406i don't like deep space but that white haired one with the red eyes called Sylus can get it ifykwim.
I wish this game had a 18+ version so i could make my character have sex with him lol