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Kind of a repost from the dead thread, but I'm really scared for my relationship and I'm freaking out about it. I can't rant to my close friends because they're all fucking hurting right now. My boyfriend and I are in a pretty shitty place and I've thought about ending things so many times. I thought it would be better for both of us if I did because we're just kind of stuck where we are now and things just… aren't good.
But now three of my previously taken friends have broken up with their boyfriends (it's all been in the same week, it's crazy and idk why this is happening to so many people I know), and I'm so scared of following suit after seeing what that does to a person. I've never been with anyone else and I didn't realize how much I appreciated my boyfriend until everyone around me started leaving theirs. They didn't want to leave, it was basically in each case because they found out that the boyfriend they'd been with for years had betrayed them and cheated on them recently. And I would have never suspected anything looking at those couples. The guys hid it so well and they seemed like they loved their girlfriends so much.
Which is where my fears kick in. What if most guys - fuck, most people - cheat and my boyfriend's one of them, but I'm just blind to it like my friends were? Most of those guys were happy but just wanted to fuck other girls. My boyfriend's got such a shady past with girls as is, and I've caught him in lies before. It's not like he's happy with me right now, either. Am I being stupid? Am I next? This feels like some horrible horror movie.
I know I should just trust my boyfriend and not compare my relationship to my friends', but I can't help it. I'm scared of losing him now, but I'm also scared I'm in a situation just like my friends and being with someone who cheats is worse than being without him to me.
I've been lonely and spent all of my time alone all my life, but I think that it's bothering me more than usual, lately.
I always believed that being socially retarded was something I could eventually, if not fix, then maybe work around by rationally observing others and figuring out how they do it. But the thing I'm really shit at, one on one conversation, how to develop a friendship past the "acquaintance" status, I can't observe. I searched for alternatives, but there are no guides on that. It makes sense I guess, the people who can do it don't think someone might need a tutorial, and the people who need it never find out how so they can't help me either.
I think it's bothering me now because I'm no longer optimistic. I'm beginning to accept the fact that I'll never learn. I'll always be part of the group (I'm outgoing and not shy most of the time, I learned how to behave in group situations) but only superficially.
It happens every time. A group is formed by circumstances, we start getting together, everyone starts becoming closer friends and it starts getting tight-knit, and I'm just… left behind. They start sleeping over at each other's places, getting together not as a group but as friends, inviting the others they're closer to… it just leads to them getting even closer and forgetting more and more about me, until I'm no longer even part of the group, and we stop hanging out and talking because they develop their own internal working I can't partake in and it just gets awkward as fuck.
I'm tired of putting in the work only for this to happen, but I'll be completely isolated if I avoid the groups I'm still somewhat part of, and I start losing my sense of reality if I go a few months without talking to anyone outside college or work-related stuff.
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does anyone else get crazy if you can't stalk you SO 24/7? i know that's such a dumb cliche, but goddamn is it satisfying to check up on them. and i don't mean it in the way of calling them or texting them all the time, i do think thats annoying. but i mean more like checking their social media accounts constantly.
back in the day i would check my gfs social media everyday. apperantly she didn't like it and (altough she didn't complain or anything) she deleted most of it once she realized. but i still found her new accounts later. theyre all private though. it drives me CRAZY. cause she has some legit jelousy issues. Where she gets mad whenever I mention other people. But at the same time she doesn't want me to see whatever dumb pic of her food she's posting.
i'm not active on social media (i have no friends IRL or online). but she's popular on both spectrums. so i think she didn't like that i checked her stuff since she couldn't check my social media accounts back (since i dont have any). but still. i miss stalking her profile every other day. i just like knowing how she's doing and how she's feeling. sure, we text everyday, but again i don't like being that annoying gf who is always nagging her via texts and phonecalls. so yeah. i miss seeing her post about the mundane things that she wouldn't mention on our convos. like what song she likes at the moment, what her dinner was, seeing her make a good morning post. it just makes me feel comfy. like we are always together. do i sound like a derranged creepy stalker? I sure do. but hey, i already explained that i'm a loser 24/7
man, I wish I hadn’t found her totally secret “private” accounts. what the fuck do i even want from her.
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you sound creepy and possessive as hell tbqh, let your gf breathe
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You're worth far more than you're currently charging. Like, waaaay more.
Seconding what >>210645
said completely, btw. Also, set boundaries when initially hammering out a… ?contract with someone, too – 'oh you want [x amount of] words? sure, that'll be [price]', then when they go back to you with 'oh just one more thing, just this, just that, please please please' etc, respond with 'well we initially agreed on [x amount of] words at [price], if you want [additional service] that's going to be [additional money, cough it tf up bitch]'. Don't let some shitstain manipulate you into doing free work; it's totally ok to "fire" a bad client and tell them to go get fucked (maybe don't actually, but you have the right to discontinue an engagement with someone when they're being disrespectful). You have my permission (if you need it) to say no when you need to, to preserve your sanity. Work smarter, not harder, fam. Charging what you're actually worth will also give you some room to not pick up the shitty clients/jobs, because you're not constantly scrabbling for the cash. You're worth it <3
(tangential commentary here but ffs i fucking hate dudes who can't take no for an answer, i wanna fling em all off into the sun)>>210647
iktf anon. i'm not in the states (where i assume you are) but i'd hit you tf up for that if i was.>>210659>>210663
something i've learnt in those kinds of situations is that when the group disbands for the day and everyone goes home, most of the others (the people who form bonds fairly quickly) are still socialising, over snap or fb or whatever, whereas once i get home i shut down because i'm all peopled out for the day, then don't really communicate with them much until i see the whole group next. i assume that's probably the reason you're getting a bit left behind too? what i'd suggest is maybe picking a person or two of the group that you'd think you'd get along with easily and make a marked effort to like, hit them up outside of the group being a group, then maybe get a group chat going or something. once you've got that stronger bond with at least one member of the gang it makes preventing being left behind a little easier
i got out of the psych ward earlier this week after being in for a fortnight and whilst it wasn't a garbage experience this time around, and i'm on the right meds now (with the correct diagnosis!) i'm kind of.. angry? upset? that i've spent the past three years being fed antidepressants that were basically ruining my life. i feel like (even though rationally i know otherwise) that there was something that i could have/should have been doing to not fuck it up even though the whole 'being prescribed the wrong drugs' thing was completely out of my hands, and had a HUGE impact on me (SSRI/SNRIs and bipolar don't mix, whoda thought). i'm just fat sad and lonely now and really aware of it because the apathetic fog is lifting, and i'm disgusted w/ myself. i was like ~90 kgs (i've always been a fat piece of shit lmao) when i was 17ish and at my worst i got up to ~130 bc i'd just binge eat fucking everything. i'm down to ~115-120 now because i've made an effort to cut the binging in the past ~6 months but looking at myself in the mirror is such a heartbreaking experience, because i'm so ashamed of how far i let this all go. i'm revolting, honestly. idk if it's just acute grief or something but jesus christ it's really raw and hurts like hell deep in my chest and i'm not even sure if i should even bother trying to fix it because at this point i've got the figure of a mother of three in her 40s and even w/ weight loss i'll be left riddled with stretchmarks and gross skin. like what's the point? i'm 21 and i'm already ruined. no one could ever love me, i'm sure. FUCK
it will be okay anon. you will be nervous and you will forget a few things. if you have still time make a list on a piece of paper and get it with you. one list of the things you want to tell them, another list for questions you have.
You may be able to get them back. Did you back then up to your Samsung account? And yeah, when my phone got fucked (some lady slapped it out of my hands in an argument) I felt like my life was over because i didnt back anything up >>210673
Good luck! Hoping you get the answers you seek
Little update here (cause I don't want to tell anybody IRL) and the session went well, it was just orientation so I didn't really get to ask questions or even really talk about what I think is the issue with me. I've got more appointments booked now and I'm very happy about that. But I'm so nervous about the confrontation with my issues.. like he asked me to keep a schedule of what I do in a day. I do NOT want to do that or share that with anybody.
And, as he was asking questions I wasn't always completely honest and making stuff a bit prettier than the truth which I always do because I don't wanna admit to my problems. (Like I told him I only dropped out of college temporarily when in reality I have no intention of going back…) As he was asking stuff I found myself thinking he must be confused about why I think I'm depressed or whatever since I was smiling and stuff. And then the dude fucking told me that he can "clearly" see I'm a somber person even though I try to hide it with smiles and cheery answers. Anons, I wanted to cry right there, it felt so good to hear from someone that all of this stuff isn't just in my head! I'm crying again thinking about it. I'm so happy he said that. I was so worried of being told "you don't need therapy, you just need a job" like my mom tells me.
And there's another big kicker. He thinks I might be autistic. It never crossed my mind whether this could be a possibility. Does anyone know anyone that gets diagnosed with autism at age 20 or older? What the hell, I didn't see that coming.
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Those stupid bots are raiding /cgl/ again. I like to browse /cgl/ and think it can be a good board, i like browsing the threads in the morning sometimes,just check it out in tranquility, but there's no way to do that since a week. They're everywhere. They kill threads by starting new ones (PLS BE MY GF??? WHAT ARE YOUR MEASUREMENTS GULLS? (thinly veiled) FEET/BOOB/… THREAD!,…) that are totally OT.
And they fuck good threads by starting idiotic arguments (lesbians won't ever know that dick is superior,fucking a 14yo is ok if she's consentant,fucking feminists,…)
It's ticking me off so much, just get out already, I wanna go back to browsing in peace.
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Our economy is getting absolutely fucked up and only thing I can do is to watch.
I'm european too but I'm heavily buying dollars, plus I get my paycheck in $$$ so I'm kind of happy about it tbh.
But yeah, euro is going to have some hard times ahead.
That sounds terrible. If anything it's a cocktail for a disaster.
But Erdogan, that is, his government could be a tad more tactful. Although I understand the reasons behind the arrest of the US consulate employee.
Anyways, shit sucks, I'm really sorry about that. But I got the impression that Turkey was doing really well, you seem to have a thriving economy and a strong market.
Plus my mom is a heavily addicted to turkish soap operas. And I heard that Turkey is one of the biggest exporters of their shows in the world.
>But Erdogan, that is, his government could be a tad more tactful
lol they are retarded, you're expecting too much from a bunch of islamists. He's trying to strong arm both US and Russia to seem strong to his voter base while destroying the fucking country.>>210701
You can say what you want but Thrace and most of Western Turkey is closer to Balkans in culture than ME. Most of the problems in there caused by migration from East.
anon, ill love you! idgaf about stretch marks and shit. meds have blown my body up and shrunk it too. i promise ill work on my mental health too T_T
yeah, cutting out the binging and trying to eat better more consistently has helped, as has getting my PCOS and thyroid meds adjusted so they're effective. i'd get a gym membership and a couple of personal trainer sessions if i wasn't broke but atm i'm just going on walks when i can and doing some body weight exercises and yoga at home, and it's more than enough for me now considering i've basically been bed ridden for the past three years. and i mean idk, i'm not looking to actually attract anyone, but i don't think i'll ever find myself aesthetically pleasing/nice to look at, so i'll need to seek that sort of validation externally, but that's probably something to unpack in therapy i suppose. but thank u anon, i appreciate it >>210705
!!! bless u. maybe we could work on it together, haha. do you have discord/skype/etc? i prefer discord but regardless i'd like to add you, if you're cool w/ that, that is.
I get it feels terrible to see yourself and hate what you see, but do keep in mind that fitness levels are one of the most easily changed things about how we look. It takes time, but anyone who has a baseline level of health can do it (and even those without it can still do it to some degree). There's no reason you can't look great in the future anon, it just takes work.
Also pretty much everybody has stretch marks and some patches of shitty skin, don't stress over those. People get them from puberty, loads of fitness models (male in particular) get them from lifting, pretty much everyone will have a significant weight increase at some point.
Don't stress over those, because it's one of those things that nobody even notices, let alone cares about in real life.
at least your bf tells you who his friends are.
mine said "it's not important" for me to know (wtf???), then later i find out 9/10 of them are female. when i asked him, he said he cut off contact with them because he didn't need them, but then i found him talking to one of the bitches he used to hook up with.
i'd say kill me but i'm already in hell.
i'm really fucking bitter about men with girl friends so you probably shouldn't listen to me, but imo you should break that shit up. he really
shouldn't need that chick, idc how many friends he does or doesn't have. what does he get out of their friendship?
It sounds awful anon but I still think it's cool for guys to have girl friends. I have a huge group of friends where I live, we're about 50 give or take and probably half girls and half guys.
I wouldn't mind at all if he had more girl friends cause I trust him, I just don't like her and she's part of the maybe 5 friends he got TOTAL. He can't get rid of her because she's his best friend's girlfriend so he's bound to hang out with her (the couple live together).
Only annoying thing is he gets very defensive of his friends, probably because he has so little.
Your bf sounds plain shady. He shouldn't lie or hide about girls he talks to if he doesn't have any bad intentions.
Yeah I've been thinking about looking for some kind of group gaming or book-club. I'm pretty nerdy but my town is small, so not a whole lot of those things.
My only normal friend irl recently introduced me to his very nerdy friends and I think I enjoy being in their company, so will try to hang out with them more too.
…Let me guess anon, is it Upwork? A guy on there wanted a 8k words article in one day, for 10 bucks. Clients on that website are almost always fucking cheap and expect too much for the money they're willing to spend on you, and they also treat you like you should thank them for giving you work lmao
It is kind of a silent rule in the community that beginner-level freelance writers/translators should ask for at least 0,05 per word. Not any less than that. So yes, you should definitely charge more
I feel you, anon, but what's important is that you're healthy, not skinny. You need to get enough nutrition, not starve yourself, and that means protein and vitamins. You need to not exhaust yourself from overworking, too, or work smarter not harder, as that can only hurt your body in the long run.
Working on your mental health can help to, because it seems like you're not doing this because you love yourself. Love yourself for other aspects beyond your body, anon, and be healthy, and then you can start worrying about extra stuff like looking skinny or not.
I wonder if he forgot completely
(after over 4 years together)
We have the same problem. I count my intake, I used to go to the gym regularly (not anymore because it made no difference). I'm sure people think I stuff myself while no one's watching I'm not even that hungry since I'm used to not eating much.
You have to know the pain of having a brother that eats a lot and is skinny as a skeleton. He often teases me about it, in a friendly way but it sucks. I haven't eaten fast food in ages, I don't drink soda and I eat healthily but my body shows otherwise. I'm chubby, or THICC aka on a lower scale of being fat. I hate my body, I hate my curves and I would want nothing more than to be as slim as some girls I know irl. I hate my matronly figure.
On the good side, it doesn't matter if I eat a lot or not, I'm always the same size just I refuse to do so because I hate stuffing myself.
Anyhow, I feel your pain. I think the only way to lose weight is by combining exercise and total intake of 800 cal max per day, and maybe, JUST maybe there might be some results in 6 months.
p.s. I haven't given up. I started doing some HIIT exercises so if that doesn't help I'll just go for surgery. Fuck this shit.
I don't want to bother you with something you probably heard but have you tried counting your calories religiously ? I use my fitness pal and it's pretty awesome to have a scanner to do everything for you. They even give you little indications like "This food has too much sodium!". It's really awesome when you think a certain food or snack is healthy when it's secretly loaded in calories.
It seems weird that you go to the gym but barely lose any weight. Sounds dumb but : do you poop regularly ? I had a lot of constipation issues in the past and started drinking coffee to help me with that. Also heard that diet is 80% of your weight loss, although sport is great, you don't lose thaaat much calories (you could work out for an hour and destroy that with a slice of pie)
I also heard sleeping better helps you lose weight so you might want to look into that.
I always thought I was a lost cause because I could only lose maybe 2kg at a time then pile on 3 more but since I downloaded myfitnesspal I lost 5 in a month (still 10 to go but now it seems much more attainable!). My biggest errors were relying on pre-made sandwiches for lunch and eating too much carbs (curse you delicious, cheese heavy pasta with a side of bread). I also visited the pub a bit too much and alcohol is to be avoided when you try to diet, now I stick to around 200cal worth of drink max.
Unfortunately I think we'll always have to watch what we eat to be around a certain weight but that's life.
>>210755>I'm afraid she's one of those girls who have to be the queen bee and "own" every guy around her even if she has a bf.
Has she ever tried to stir the pot with your relationship though? For me that's always the million dollar question, if they respect the boundaries of your relationship does it really matter? If she's trying to get him to prioritize her over you I'd give an entirely different answer. >>210756>i'm really fucking bitter about men with girl friends
The onus is really more on your boyfriend than anything. I have friends of the opposite sex, and it's not a big deal.
I'm not afraid of saying who I'm going to hang out with or who my friends are because there's nothing to hide. The only thing I keep private is personal conversations because sometimes people come to me with personal issues and I feel that would be disrespectful, but my actions are entirely open.
>>210828>Has she ever tried to stir the pot with your relationship though?
That's a fair point that's why I try to stay level headed. The only thing I didn't like was her being a tad overly affectionate towards my bf (like saying I love you, weird nicknames etc) but it started before we met and I heard it's something that's not too weird for her.
The other thing would be that I try to talk a bit to his friends through snap or messenger but she never messaged/replied to me. I even designed her a little something for her hobby and she never even thanked me directly (and never bothered using it later on top of that).
You're right that I'd never let it slide if she tried to interjects herself in my couple, but then it'd be more of a problem with my boyfriend drawing boundaries. I would be more understanding if he knew her for years and years, but he actually met her something like last year or so ? That's when I told him the "I love you" talk was bothering me from someone who's not family.
this sounds terrible anon. Update us - is your house still flooding?
Will insurance cover it?
>>210822> It's really awesome when you think a certain food or snack is healthy when it's secretly loaded in calories.
I really want to back up this point.
A lot of people diet but don't seem to understand how fucked up some foods are, admittedly partially because they go out of their way to make it sound like they're not that unhealthy.
I knew I was fucking myself over! Ugh. Idiot. I'm not gonna be a pushover anymore. >>210775
It's fiverr actually, but according to your description apparently all of these sites are the same. Sometimes I browse through fiverr and I see artists offering full color sketches for $5, which already is absurd, and when you take into account that fiverr takes $2 from that it's just flat out wrong.
It's the same with translation, people charging 0.01 per word… it makes everyone have to lower their prices a ridiculous amount or they just won't get any work.
>>210786>Seriously thought I'd done my research and knew what I was doing, fucking idiot !!!!
Yeah, half of my fathers work back when he owned his own business was basically fixing peoples mistakes after they watched some DIY projects.
Not to kick you while you're down, but even if one project works out it'll save you money in the long run if you just go to a professional.
High calorie content doesn’t equal unhealthy though. Nuts and seeds are high in calories but they’re super good for your body. Sugar is the worst culprit because it’s lower in calories than fat but has no nutritional value; there’s literally no point in eating it other than it tastes nice, but people genuinely believe that they’re making a sensible diet choice because “low calorie 0% fat!!”
/sage for nutritional rant
It's good to know but checking calories is also good to have an overall view of what you're ingesting. Some food SEEMS very healthy and natural and all that jazz and still packed with calories or have sodium/other added.
I think if you're aware of that, you'll be more inclined to consume it wisely than just think "Oh nice, nuts and almonds are good for you right ? So I might as well replace my chips with a bowl of them"
I also blame deceitful packaging. I love biscuits and snacks with my tea and you'd think some super healthy looking, very bland ones are going to be great for you when they're basically the same as the chocolate ones.
So IMO, a good balance of knowing your calories, exercise and some basic nutrition knowledge can put you in the healthy BMI range easily. It's just plain hard to ignore the sugar cravings at first.>>210842
Yeah you're right. I shouldn't get worked up over her even if I plain don't like her, my bf is free to hang out with her but I'll try to make my own friends asap when I move to his state. You made me realize it wasn't such a big deal anon
sorry to hear that babe maybe you could find something to distract yourself tonight? and maybe your boyfriend is just keeping quiet for tomorrow? since it's just the day before your birthday
i completely understand tho that it's absolutely crushing to be alone around your birthday/holidays
Played doki doki literature club
Read petscop reddit
Walked my dog
Felt like shit
He asked if we could skype tomorrow, so that's probably it (i mean, that's the entire extent of my birthday). I accept that it would have been hard for him to travel here, but I thought he might give a shit about how lonely I feel. He blames me for taking this temporary job though. I know now never to expect a token to be thrown my way. I'm not a materialistic person by any means but for fuck's sake do something to make me feel special once in awhile. I literally got nothing from him for 2/4 previous birthdays and 2/4 Christmas celebrations. So I'm the idiot who thinks that this time he will care.
God I'm such a shitty basic bitch for wanting this, sorry. If I were different and not such a scared worthless shit, I might actually have friends.
Looking forward to
I've been there, Anon. It makes me really want to share contact info and try to distract you, since that's what helped me through my past birthdays since my parents never remember it and my boyfriend doesn't think birthdays matter.
I can't stop pulling my hair again and I'm really afraid it's going to get out of control again. I'm already seeing a bit of a bald spot in that area and applying castor oil to it religiously and putting sticky notes everywhere to remind me not to touch my hair but it's not working. It's really getting to me because I've already been through this and got over it and thought I was done with it but today proved me wrong.
Same anon. Bf was supposed to help me clean and finally do his mountain of laundry that he had promised me for the past two days. But instead he's passed out on the couch and I don't want to wake him up since even I feel too mentally drained to tackle this shit. In fact, I feel like cooking something to eat because I'm still hungry from the unsavory nachos.
I try doing work throughout the week but it usually puts me in a foul mood if after work I have to spend 1-2 hours on chores like dishes and other cleaning duties. Sometimes I wish I lived alone again because I know my place would stay cleaner for 10x longer and I wouldn't have to worry about picking up dirty dishes, laundry, and other clutter constantly.
I've been having a lot of mental health issues lately, and I feel like my dad is only making it worse. I live with him because I'm going to college and don't have time for a job if I want scholarship money, but I honestly think he's making my mentality worse.
I've had around 10 anxiety attacks/mental breakdowns over the past half year, and have been on the edge of suicide way more than that. My dad was front and center to my first 3, so I figured he would do something, but he never did anything. When he asked if I wanted to see a therapist I said yes, but he told me to go find one. I told him that I didn't want to find out which ones would take my insurance because my insurance is through my mom, who mentally abused me as a child/teen and gives me severe depressive thoughts to even think about, let alone admit I need counseling to. I told him this (he would know this is an issue for me because she abused the heck out of him too), but after that he didn't do anything and just let me rot.
Every day he tries to pretend like he's such hot shit, saying how he's twice the man everyone around him is, and is always making himself judge, jury, and executioner while watching the news, and yet he pretends to be some fucking saint by claiming he's a perfect father.
I have a dentist appointment next week, and I already know my teeth are fucked, and I can already see now that he's going to scream at me because of it (which makes my depression go up by 1 million %). I'm seriously just thinking about ending it all so I don't have to deal with it anymore, I'm really sick of people fucking me over every second of the day. Fuck, he even makes fun of people who commit suicide in front of my face and I want to laugh at the irony because that's probably the way I'll go. I don't see much purpose in living because I fear I'm just going to marry a scumbag like him who pretends to be good, and I can never marry a woman because he would piss on my grave since he hates gay people. Honestly, dying seems fine with me, but I know it's not right.
Should I go to the hospital? Or should I work up the courage to talk to my mom to see a therapist? Or should I just end it? I don't know what to do.
If you already have daddy issues I say be a stripper and GET MONEY BITCH!! Jk
On a real note, go talk to university counselors about this. I spoke to some counselors at my uni and they were actually really fucking helpful. They're grad students and all are trying to work in the mental health field so they have so many resources for you.
Thanks anon, lol
I just wish I felt like I didn't have to go to some school counselor rather than my own family, but I'll definitely try that, thank you. (And I will keep stripping in mind in case that doesn't work)
That's called projection anon !! He's jealous because he's thinking you're doing the same thing he does and knows his intentions aren't good.>>210860
Ugh anon I have almost the same problem where I pick at my skin and now my shoulders and legs are awful looking. I stopped months ago and still have spots and scarring. Don't know what to do, I always find an excuse to avoid going to the pool or anything like that but I wonder if it's going to fully go away :( I tried Bio Oil but I don't know if it can do much more
From what I took from your post, people can't really "like" you if you don't show yourself. I've kinda been in your shoes, but the hardest thing you have to do is to try to open up yourself to others.
Small steps are still steps forward, so don't punish yourself if it doesn't happen as fast as you would imagine.
I still have a hard time going places alone, so when I meet people I try to fix it by maybe asking if they could meet me halfway or something like that.
my boyfriend is unhappy to the point of being at what he describes as the lowest point in his life. he blames me, in large, for taking up his emotional and mental energy and causing a series of events that have negatively impacted his ambitions and his focus.
i never wanted this for him. i never meant to ruin his life by simply existing and being his girlfriend. i knew early on that i would be too much - too unstable, too unreliable, too emotional - for anyone to handle, but he was persistent in being with me. we were happy for a while, but i should have known i could never be a good person, never be what he needed. i should have resisted more, knowing that the kind of person i am and the kind of person he was could never have blended together without negative consequences. i'm not meant for anyone, least of all someone with so bright a future as him.
i want to end this for his sake. he's told me that he wouldn't care or feel anything if the relationship did end, so i know i wouldn't be hurting him; rather, i'd be releasing him from further misery. i can handle whatever pain the breakup brings me knowing that i'm doing what's right for him because i still love him. i have from the beginning and i always will.
but i don't want to leave him when he's telling me he's at an all-time low. when i know and can see and feel that he's not in a good place mentally right now. i might have caused his current state with my past behavior, and i know that every day i'm with him it probably gets worse even when i try to not even speak to him to avoid causing further stress, but i can't just leave him when he's hurting.
i'm stuck: i'm the reason for his current state, but i also can't abandon him while he's like this. i want to let him go so he can be happy again, but i don't want to leave him to be alone when he's so depressed and miserable. i know now that i'll never be able to mend the past and heal him, and i'm not naive enough to believe i have a future with him anymore, but i still refuse to leave him in this state.
i love him, i need to leave him, and i don't know how to help him.
You should leave him, as simple as that.
I don't know why you're feeling so guilty all the time but your bf -according as you said- knew what it would be like to be with you, right? He accepted it and things didn't go as you wished. If you think that much that you're the reason he's miserable, if you're 100% sure you're the problem, why you should be there for him now?
I'm not trying to make you feel worse or anything, actually I'm worried about how you're thinking about yourself right now (I'm sure you're far better than you think you are) but you can't help him if you think you're the reason to his depression. You can't be ''the cure and the disease'' at the same time.
what? no. he's either a scumbag dumbass or you're fucking up somebody's life and they need you to gtfo to get better.
break up with him.
If he really was that low, and know it's because of you, he'd dump you ?? What's stopping him ? Are you sure he's not using you as a scapegoat to express all of his woes and demons ?
Are you gonna threaten suicide if he leaves, or be in a dangerous position (homelessness) ? If the answer is no then stop feeling like Satan incarnate, it takes two to make a relationship works but only one to end it.
It's like saying all your troubles come from the fact that your house is on fire but also if you get out you won't be able to watch tv inside. If you were really causing him all that pain then he'll be better off alone, simple as that.
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social awkwardness vent…
>be me at 14
>there’s a pretty girl in class that i like and want to be friends with (i was figuring out i was a lesbian back then).
>tried to talk to her and fail massively. asked her about the book she was reading, and told her she's holding it wrong (she was btw)
>she looks at me with disgust and doesn’t say a word back
>THAT’S IT. THAT’’S ALL I DID GUYS!!
>for the entirety of high school this girl ALWAYS gave me the dirtiest looks. she would always point me out to her friends to make fun of me – and she would do it right next to me too. I had to listen to all of them laughing about how weird I was. she would always make fun of me with her friends. this girl is super popular in school. She’s cute (unlike me) so everyone likes her.
>change bus routes to avoid her, run the fuck away whenever i see her during lunch, never talk to anyone who is friends with her (they make fun of me), try to do everything to not see her and her friends
>embarrassed for life
>be me at 20. in university
>my one friend says "Hey anon do you know _______? she says she knows you. you two were in high school together, right?"
>"ehh i dont remember"
>"yeah yeah, she said you asked her about her book? and then you told her she was holding the book wrong? Haha, she said you were so weird and creepy! She doesn't get why i talk to you at all. Man, she really doesn't like you. She thinks you’re weird and gross. Like she reaaally doesn’t like you"
>why does she remember jesus Christ why I literally only talked to her once six years ago please god take me away on this very second.jpg
>"yeah i don’t remember her don’t know what you’re talking about"
>legit holding back tears remembering her and her friends making fun of me to my face multiple times in high school
so, kids, when you do something embarrassing/social awkward… you know how people always say that you're the only who remembers? its bullshit. other people remember. and even six years later, girls will still make fun of you for being autistic in high school. Man, what the fuck. the cringe is real
Next time make an astonishing look of creeped out and say
"she is remembering that I told her she holds the book wrong once X years ago even when we never talked with each other again?" And make a confused look.
Seriously, if she still spergs about that incident she is the weird one, not you. There was no need to be embarrassed initially anyway. They pick you for bullying because you're easily to pick on. The can smell your shame a mile away. Get new friends.
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Mein Gott, a similar thing happened to me in middle school too. We were friends for a few good months and then she stopped talking to me completely. I didn't do anything wrong.
I find out later in high school through a friend who used to be close to the bitchy girl and guess what? She thought I was a lesbian and so she stopped talking to me (???). I'm not a lesbian and there's nothing wrong with being one.
Basically, ignore her. She's immature as fuck and I'm sure she's sooo great to be around.
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I finally got the courage to confess love to a guy friend I knew for a while but all I got was an accusation of making a very bad joke.
He is similar to those r9k types so it's not surprising he'd have a hard time believing me.
What an idiot though.
said. She is definitely the weird one if she is still talking about - hell, can even still remember - such a minor conversation. If she’s ever brought up to you again just laugh and say “she’s a freak, I spoke to her once X years ago about a book and she tells everyone she meets how much she hates me for it”. Promise you she’ll never mention it again.
>>210948>six years later and the scourned bitch still tells of the person who pointed out she held a book wrong
Oh wow! Insane how someone can have a vendetta and be threatened over something so petty.
She probably thought you were insulting her intelligence, but judging by the way she's held on to this for years, you weren't wrong…
I wish you could post a picture of this "cute" bitch. She sounds like she has a social disorder herself, like anyone who challenges her on anything is on her shit list forever. I'm sure you're not the only one she's made a target of, anon. In fact, had I been your other friend in this situation I would've said something along the lines of "Haha yeah, anon said she held a book wrong like half a decade ago in high school and she's still pissed about it. Pathetic, right?"
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I dated this aspie guy back in 2010 after he pressured and guilted me into it. He wasn't the person I thought he was and he turned out to be a selfish ass. It was a mistake and I broke it off after a month or so and remained friends with him out of niceness. Since he always
complains about being alone even though he drives the majority of people away. I get slightly triggered
when I scroll past >>111835
bc it looks like him.
Anyway, he keeps doing this thing where to force me into a conversation he makes a leading statement, where he expects me to probe him about whatever he just said in order to begin the dialogue about himself.
How can I put it…
A normal person might say "You wouldn't believe this but I just got a money offer for work with one of my favorite photographers!" but instead he says "And we've got an offer." Nothing else follows until I respond.
Huh? What? Who? What offer? Offer about what?
It may not seem so bad if he would do this infrequently. But it's EVERY. FUCKING. TIME.
Like I'm a moron and don't realize what he's doing.
He's the type of person who asks "How are you doing?" hoping that you won't have much to say about yourself just so he can jump straight into talking about himself when you predictably ask back–as it goes in polite conversation.
Not to mention when I made the mistake of confiding in him about some of my relationship problems, he actively encouraged me to dump my bf and was weirdly obsessed about it. Not for my sake though, but because he wanted another chance with me and got excited with glee when he thought my four year relationship was ending (it didn't).
He oozes with such self-centeredness that it seeps into his everyday interactions. Every talk is a 'humble'brag, or a pity party. Nobody likes him, and I'm really just keeping my mouth shut out of politeness but even that is getting difficult. And how do you cut someone out of your life of seven years without looking like the bitch when you've silently accommodated their behavior the entire time? As if you were okay with it all when you were just being polite and empathetic? Fuck, I wish there was a button I could press.
I was in an almost exact position and what I did was just suddenly drop all contact. You might think it's cruel, or a bitch move to do but in the end that type of person doesn't care about others and has extremely low levels of empathy.
Every time I have to make a difficult decision I imagine I did it and how it would feel. 99.9% of time my gut feelings are right. So, it's up to you.
You have to ask yourself, is he really a good friend to you? Do you think that time spent with him is better spent else where? Does he drain you of your energy? Do you procrastinate replying to him just because it feels like a huge chore? Those are the few questions that I ask myself when I get the misfortune of being in contact with such people.
I still get quite intense anxiety in the evening, even though that which caused the anxiety to begin with has ended years and years ago (weird childhood because of super stressed mother, bad relationships, an ex who was a manipulative narcissistic asshole, 2 incidents of not very severe psychosis). I've done a shit ton of work throughout the years to better my mental health, but it's still pretty shit at times (not nearly as bad as it was before).
It always happens during the afternoon (or as soon as it's dark outside), and lasts until i go to bed. The same street i see outside my window in the morning suddenly becomes unreal and eerie as my anxiety sets in. The world feels like my nightmares, as if the feeling of them seeps out of my head and taints the rest of the world. I try to talk to people every day (irl, online and on the phone), i see my parents/sister about once a week, i have a boyfriend that i live with every other week (we're planning to move together at the end of the year), and i regularly see mental health proffessionals, but as soon as i'm alone my anxiety and intense feelings of unease takes over.
Every single day that i spend alone i have constant anxiety and i don't even know why anymore.
I take 3 different kinds of medication, and they all make it slighty better, but it feels like i've hit a wall. I'm afraid i'll always be like this, no matter how much better my circumstances get. I'm afraid it's chronic.
I cry all the fucking time. I often cry for hours each day, because of anxiety, intrusive thoughts, stress and depression.
I have a job that i'm pretty fine with, my own appartment, i eat every day, i work out etc… Why the fuck do i still feel this way.
I've had psychosis twice in my life (one drug-related and one that lasted for months because of a single night terror incident), and this feels just like it, except diluted and drawn out.
I know this is gonna sound stupid, but it feels like i'm almost in a parallel world when i'm alone and anxiety sets in, like in Stranger Things except without all the visual stuff in the "upside down". It doesn't look like the intestines of trees are spread out everywhere, but it sure feels like it.
It's like i can "feel" the underside of everything, and it's scary. This has been going on for years and years. Sometimes it gets better for a few months, then it comes back, and it goes back and forth like that ad infinitum.
I don't even know if this is regular anxiety, depression or something else, all i know is that it feels so fucking lonely, and that i haven't met anyone irl that can relate.
My Aunt just died. He got diagnosed with brain cancer a month ago and suddenly died last week. He got so bad so quickly. I saw her in the hospital and even slept there to take care and watch over her. It was so scary and horrifying seeing someone dying.
This was the closest person to me in my whole family, I have no one else who I've had such a loving and actual bond with. It's so painful. I never knew things could hurt this bad before.
Also started to kind of see my ex boyfriend. I love him a lot, I've never loved a guy before him and I hope maybe we can date again. Right now we are just hanging out/going on dates/hooking up (it's not "exclusive" but neither of us are with other people). I don't expect him to love me again and but if it doesn't work out I'm going to be so crushed. And with that death, it's all feeling worse at the same time.
Family life sucks at my house. It always has but the older I got the more unbearable it feels. I know people will say, be an adult and leave. But my situation is really complicated and leaves me overwhelmed and stressed out.
I live with my only other sibling, and if I left they would not have anyone to help them out with my abusive parents. My parents take it out mostly on me, since they view me as the black sheep (accusing me of being a prostitute, call me a whore for driving places, tell me I'm ugly and stupid, they are super conservative and crazy).
I also go to a college which my dad cosigns my loans for. If I left school, I would have no cosigner, without that I cannot afford school and if I took off semesters to work to save up for school I would be forced to start paying my loans, which I cannot afford to do. I have medical issues which thankfully are mostly covered by my parents insurance but if I move out they will disown me and I will be removed and have no health care.
Due to my horrible family life and stress I have built up anxiety and depression issues. I've been put in the loony bin x4 times in the past 3 years for these issues. I can't really go out and have fun with anyone since I'm not allowed out past like 7PM (can't break the rules or my parents will kick me out, sucks but oh well) and because I have so much sadness and anxiety from my stress that I can't bring myself to see anyone or be able to have fun. Whenever I have tried to have fun or do my makeup or anything my parents have ruined it by spamming my phone, calling me a stupid whore, telling me I can't go out because I have to clean the floors etc. It really hurts to try really hard and then just have it pulled down from under me.
I feel like maybe this all sounds really juvenile but I'm under so much stress that recently I've been even more suicidal than I ever was in my life. each year the depression seems to get worse but this time I really have come up with more solid ideas in my head about suicide and how I should do it. I've never felt like I should do it this much. I'm trying so hard to keep going but it's so hard when you have nobody.
I'm sorry to hear that, anon. When my grandparents died; it felt like my entire family became different people for several weeks after it happened. Some of the people who didn't care suddenly became unnecessarily greedy. Some of the people who were extraordinarily nice dropped all pretenses of liking me and showed their true colors.
I think some people just deal with loss in different ways, and it results in awful examples from otherwise nice people. Maybe what you can do is go to your ex, just tell him that you need a shoulder to cry on, and use that time to unwind and let him know how you have been feeling. He might be more receptive than you think.
As for suicide, just remember the adage: "This too shall pass". Your feelings are temporary, and your life will go on. Give it a few weeks and see if you can find a way to return to relative normalcy.
True story, I used to have a nervous tick where I squeezed my tit. Now one tit is unnaturally bigger than the other.
Consider grinding your teeth or investing in silly putty instead before it becomes something you can't live without.
I've considered mfc but it seems like work. You had to pay money to sell them?>>211016
I thought VPNs were blocked by 4chan? Anyways I'm not that desperate to post there other than to sell my figures now.
>>211022>I used to have a nervous tick where I squeezed my tit. Now one tit is unnaturally bigger than the other.
this actually works? sorry for being off topic but how long were you doing that for?
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I scratched my eyebrows whenever I was stressed. After a bad bout of exams they were gone and never really grew back right.
Years, I started in middle school and did that until late high school.
Don't actually do that to increase your boob size because it won't increase them evenly. It will make one tit look off-center if you're standing in front of a mirror.
>>211024>I thought VPNs were blocked by 4chan
Depends on the VPN you get. Foreign VPNs that you have to pay for are typically not banned because even the most obsessive shitposter over there isn't going to pay money to troll 4chan.
Things that offer free trials, though? Those are all banned.
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oh god! i guess we can be eyebrow twins of sorts anon, that sucks.
I think it's a normal reaction. I keep electronics until they are on death's door. If I lost or broke one, I'd feel bad about it even if it's time to replace it anyway. I'd probably be hard on myself about breaking it. I have some attachments to certain objects so that could be in play.
Just remember that it's not an important thing. You'll get a new, better one and eventually you won't think about the old one anymore. It just takes time.
I had €800 in cash stolen from me a year ago by movers and I'm still not over it tbh. That little box of carefully collected bills had so much sentimental value for reasons I won't detail here. My tip for everyone: don't trust movers not to go through your things. I was so upset and ashamed that I never followed through with a police report (I knew the police would laugh at me.)
Thanks anon, it helped to read something from someone who understands.
He wrote me a poem. Granted, it was about the dog we adopted together (she lives with me right now since I had to temporarily move). I'm happy he finally wrote me something (we are both writers in a way), but it still feels cheap, since it's about the dog. And that was it.
I guess I'm a bit of a brat.
i lost my mobile phone a few months ago. I was so depressed for several days. one because Im triggered
af by using new devices when everything is different and secondly because i thought about how so much bad luck stuff always happens to me.
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I'm bisexual and lately I've been wanting a girlfriend more than I usually used to (I have a crush and I'm talking to this girl but we're just at the "knowing each other stage" atm). I feel like due to having had experiences with men and none with women I just HAVE to have a gf, I just have to try, and it's bugging me. I even dream about it at night. It's becoming obsessive.
So I'm working on it, wish me good luck
I'm not going to address every point, because it's ridiculous. But I will say that when you post shit like this:
>>Men only desire women to fulfill their sexual needs and bear children
Really it just shows how inexperienced you are with actual relationships and that you may be one to be pitied. Many men have just as much emotional depth and desire for long-term fulfilling relationships as women. I mean how do you account for all the happy nuclear families out there? Even if half of them are secretly resentful of each other, there's still a shit ton of dudes marrying women and starting loving and healthy families. I personally know of at least 10 such people in my immediate social circle and family.
So.. did your daddy not love you enough, or what's the deal here?
thats some scary stuff anon, its alright to feel shaken! its kind of awful knowing that you dont know what is going to happen next, the sort of unknown with the rage is what would get to me..
it takes a lot to be in a job like that, caring for mentally ill/disabled people who are lower functioning. the turn-over rate is really high
Thanks anon, I think that was really what scared me the most was the uncertainty. I knew I couldn’t step in so all I could do was watch.
The worker stayed so calm and collected the whole time, I could not be mentally or emotionally (he’ll even physically) strong enough for a job like that, really takes a special kind of person
That's not 'racist'; your gut feeling is usually correct.
Get to know her a bit, but also do what I did when I had flatmates and rent a PO box that will accept tall packages.
i do too
t. oversensitive person
I feel triggered
exactly the same way. I've been calling pawn shops while at work and focusing on other things besides my job. I know it's not healthy but I just have this nagging feeling that if I just look a bit harder, it will turn up. Also because the thought of someone else using it triggers
me on some underlying level.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who got absurdly depressed over losing it. My parents just called me weird and told me to buy another, and that just made me feel like shit.
You don't need to be a robot to find some nutter sperging out about how men are evil trite. If anything some robots might agree with you and use it to further some of their arguments lol. >>211058>not sure why I’m so effected.
Pretty natural reaction honestly. Honestly I'm kind of surprised people as low functioning as that arent on a tighter leash.
oh wow I wish good post-fight sex would happen to me. My bf sometimes tries to use sex as a way to make up and I have such an aversion to it when I'm feeling hurt/angry - like don't EVER touch me or smooth over your words with your penis, asshole. I view everything as him being condescending or trying to manipulate me when I'm in that mood.
So I admit I'm envious bc something in me just shuts down - but I understand that it seems like it's happening too often. Is there a middle ground? Could you guys have some kind of post-fight cuddling instead of sex, or is the sex like a distraction from the real issues? Sorry if these are dumb questions.
Everything's so stagnant and empty.
Nothing new happens in my life, I don't meet any new people. I come back from uni, it's late, I'm too tired to do things. If I go out with a friend, we only do the same stuff as always. I wish I could just go to some ukulele classes or shit, but no one wants to go with me. I thought I'm the socially inept one, but I realized many people considered "normal" don't step out from their comfort zones like ever. It's making me angry when I have to almost drag people out of their homes, because they would rather just lay in bed watching TV. I wish someone dragged ME around. I need someone outgoing with whom I would feel challenged, growing.
But yeah. Here I am, spending my life in my room, less creative every day, barely meeting friends because I'm done just wasting time at their houses, but also too anxious and tired and stressed to do stuff alone.
Nothing happens beside bad stuff.
All I see is an asshole who use other for self gratifying reasons. I bet miss perfect is either doing the same thing to guys or fucking seething whenever he gets too chummy to any girl but can't drop her good gf facade.
What a turd. What he's doing is clearly emotional cheating towards his gf. Are you sure you'd like a bf who seeks validation from other girls when you're there for him, and let them swoon and caress their arm or chat for hours on end and call them gf-ish nicknames ? Can you imagine how that'd feel ?
that anon here, i think it’s more normal and healthy to not fuck after fighting, tbh, i wish i had the same sense to say no.
most of the time we’ve already made up before we fuck, so we aren’t really fucking the anger away, just relieving tension and getting in a better mood? the problem is that often we go right back to fighting not even an hour afterwards, and then make up and screw again, and by then it’s bedtime so we sleep. but a lot of times i feel vulnerable and used because i know it won’t last and we will fight again. cuddling would be a less vulnerable spot.
this stuff probably happens 1-2 times a week.
It took me almost 2 weeks to get out of that mindset when my wallet got stolen. I just kept imagining that it would turn up, that the person who took it might have a change of heart and drop it off at a post office or in a mailbox or something and that it would get mailed to me (yeah fucking right). Every day I came home my heart would jump a little checking the mail because I would imagine it being there. And I'd trigger
myself by imagining the person going through my wallet, using my stuff, stealing my identity or something. It's a really shitty feeling but it does go away eventually. It just takes time.
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I sprained my ankle over a week ago and it was so bad I couldn't walk on it for a while without intense shooting pains up my leg. It finally started to feel better yesterday, then when I was walking around today it started hurting again. I google searched it and apparently some sprains can take 2+ weeks to heal. I'm annoyed because it hurts so much that I don't like to walk on it unless I absolutely have to, and I haven't been able to exercise or get outside so I feel like shit.
The hypochondriac in me is worried that I might have torn a ligament or done some sort of worse damage to my ankle but I'm too scared and too poor to go to a doctor for xrays or anything. I'm 99% sure it's just a bad sprain but it's been almost a week now with no improvement so the worry nags at me. I was so sure it was getting better too. Augh.
I can empathize.
I tried joining the Engineering club at my college, and it's been a bit of a shit show. A lot of talk, but nothing actually done. I've been thinking of taking up dancing classes since it's always been something I wanted to learn, tried meetup which has been a bit of a shit show. Who knew there could be so many vegan food and feminist book clubs in one city?
All you can really do is keep moving forward though. Don't be afraid to try something solo.
It's feeling really hard for me right now because I checked with Google to see if it had been turned on since I lost it, and it hasn't.
So now the question is; where did it go? Did no one find it? Did I lose it someplace that could take weeks for someone to even look there? Is it right under my nose? Is it actually someplace perfectly safe and I'm too dumb to think about it being there?
These questions will genuinely haunt my dreams.
anon, my wallet was stolen and I had the same reaction. I was sure someone would return the wallet without the money or credit cards (I had expensive IDs in there since I'm an expat). Nothing, not even the wallet, ever showed up. I contacted every place I could think of,posted signs, everything. This happened in a city where a lot of stuff supposedly gets returned.
It hurts. It's agonizing. And I'm so sorry. It is better, perhaps, to take steps to get a new one and try to put it out of your mind. I wasn't functional for a week after this happened to me (and it cost me more than a tablet to replace the documents inside, not to mention all the time and emotional energy it cost me).
at least you try, anon. Tbh I would join a feminist book club but there are no such things in my culture as book clubs. I would love if my uni had something like hobby clubs, but every club is related to the major and people are so serious about it, no one even wants to know your name, they would kill me if I was standing on their way to write some shitty monograph for more scholarship points.
I would gladly follow your advice if I wasn't so socially anxious. I can't really get into a group, this is beyond my skills. Some situations, like when I try to introduce myself or join a conversation and people just simply ignore me (because I have no presence), and one person catches that and looks at me awkwardly and then choose to ignore me too, still haunt me at nights lol. Because of stuff like this, trying things solo really just depress me, it's not worth it. Leaves me feeling like shit. I know I can't go through life just clinging to someone more outgoing, but I certainly am the type that needs some help to grow. Would love to grow with someone, together. Eh
>>211208>Some situations, like when I try to introduce myself or join a conversation and people just simply ignore me (because I have no presence)
That's why I tend to like projects. I mean yeah, I get how it can be hard to introduce yourself or make small talk. That's why I generally suggest shared interests, you can bond over that and/or a shared goal and actually getting to know the person tends to follow. If the university isn't an option, I'd still suggest meetup.com or facebook events or some shit like that.
One thing that really helped me was taking a sales position actually. Shit job, but I learned how to be able to talk clearly so even if I'm not comfortable with a situation I can communicate my intent much more easily.
I'd be really disappointed if I were you. You should really let him know doing something like that isn't acceptable.
I mean, it's fine that he's not in the mood to watch Netflix, but then he shouldn't be in the mood to watch YouTube videos either. What's the real reason for it?
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'I hate women and go to women spaces to tell them, I'm totally not a robot'
I'm sure there are other anons that feel the same way. Also, I never said I hated all women, just those that are into gossip and related activities.
I know a few women that aren't anything like that, but those are rare to find. Especially when you live in a mid-sized town.
hoe why is you here>>211236
And again I say, hoe, why is you here
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>>211049>lolcow refuses to acknowledge the male problem
As a long-time bisexual woman, meeting women is much like meeting men: be sociable. There are dating apps solely for gay women, lesbians definitely do go to gay bars, and lesbian/bi women exist IRL just like straight men do. I've met at least one in every job I've worked at, every educational facility, every social activity, etc.
You're always going to meet women who will cut and run the minute they find out you're questioning. The trick is to be normal and be honest - get to know them as people (not just aS a potential partner), confirm there is a possibility for romance (ie they are gay/bi and like you in that way), and then work out your own feelings BEFORE you act on it. When you do act on it, they will be doing so knowing that you are entering new territory and that it might not end up in tru luv. People just don't like being used as an experiment with no regards to their feelings. Good luck anon!
Get the mobile app HER
Even if you don't plan on using it for hook ups (i am not either) it gives a decent introduction in the world of bicurious,bisexual,asexual,homosexual women
Go and buy a bottle of organic (no sugar) cranberry juice and drink that entire fucker in one go.
Trust me the feeling of a starting UTI will be gone with big pee that follows
anon I agree with >>211328
I usually mix mine with water and basically drink the hole thing throughout the day plus like 5 water bottles and feel better by the next day.
UTI's are from the devil,
Do YOU actually care about romance, or are you feeling pressured because you're comparing yourself to everyone else?
If you're okay with being alone and enjoy cats, why change? I'll tell you that romantic relationships comes with a lot of heartbreak and disappointment too, and it's not something you should get yourself involved in unless you truly want it.
24 is such an awkward age because its the only age that spans across two developmental phases, a bridge between adolescence and young adulthood. im standing here at the 40% point so unsure of when to cross. i FEEL like an adult, but adults won't treat me like it. children think i'm an adult, but i can't fill their expectations. my brain is done and stable, but my condition is starting to kill me so im literally running out of time. i know what choices need to be made, finish my degree, start career work, move out, come out, get a gf and a dog, die peacefully in hospice.
i just don't know HOW. i have no one to ask. i love them, but every woman in my entire family has become a miserable babymachine housewife by 20 (except for the 38 year old still in retail) and have always just used a boyfriend or husband for literally everything they have.
A lot of people do stuff that screams "don't talk to me" but are completely unaware of it. If you're frowning, that says don't talk to me. Crossed arms? Body language says leave me alone. Headphones? I'm in my own world, go away. Etc. So who will still talk to someone despite all of those factors? Generally not the sort of people whos company you would want to keep. You say you don't have resting bitch face but I'd still consider other behaviors that have a similar effect.
> it'd be nice for my self esteem to have some beta orbiters like most girls have.
The internet goes out of its way to make this seem like a bigger thing than it really is.
Have you considered locking him in a room with a naked child? It's the only way to be sure.
Not op, but idk, I think I also have a resting bitch face or that I just naturally look stern.
I worked on my body language but the only way to get people to talk me is me going to them and more or less forcing myself in. I have learned to do it these last few years, but it's exhausting.
I wish I was this kind of bubbly girl everyone wants to talk to.
Every time this kind of talk comes up, I want to say something and oppose it, but I really can't. If there's something that all the years spent on the internet/imageboards have taught me, it's that non-normie men, regardless of preferred hobby, are all sickfucks. Five years as an undergrad has taught me that normie men aren't much different.
It's always either traps or kids. Men are literally incapable of being sexually healthy.
I'm so fucking lucky my boyfriend is literally autistic and somehow managed to not be fucked up when it comes to this.
That kind of girl doesn't exist. It's normal to make an effort to talk to people. If you could watch those girls you're jealous of 100%, you'll notice that they usually initiate.
It's only when you get to celebrity hot that you start encountering friends and lovers like Pokemon in the tall grass. For the rest of us, just save yourself the worry and talk to people.
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>being short on money
>cutting your own hair
>doing fine twice so growing confidence
>fuck up really bad third time
>looking like that fat guy from lost now
>only difference is my hair is side parting and that im female.
>Im also fat and no visible neck
I did have a serious LTR a few years ago. But talking with guys won't tell me how other girls experience things.
I am interested in a couple of guys, but no one seems to be interested in me, and I don't want to embarrass myself.
It just seems like a lot of girls get asked out a ton and constantly having guys go after them.>>211465
I definitely don't wear headphones so that can't be it. Not really sure what else it could be.
>The internet goes out of its way to make this seem like a bigger thing than it really is.
Yeah you're probably right, but I'm constantly reading about how girls are asked out a ton (even to the point of harassment) and I'm here getting nothing. I don't mind approaching guys but it makes me anxious about why it's only me who has to do it all the time.>>211471
The thing is, I think I am a bubbly girl, and I love talking with strangers in public. But I also get tired of initiating all the time.>>211475
Like I said I don't mind initiating, but I wonder why I have to initiate all the time when in society it's usually the other way around. Most women definitely don't initiate relationships.
We've all fucked up our hair at some point.
Once time I accidentally gave myself a mullet/bull cut thing. It was humiliating. I had no choice but to let it grow out.
to some degree… i would never rely on anyone to hand me an allowance especially not as a 40 year old i can imagine how humiliating it feels. if I can marry a woman I really love as long as she has the kids or we adopt, I wouldn't mind if she had a much bigger income and we did a 30-60 thing and I'd balance it with housewifing and parenting.
but the way my family does it in which a woman is a sex slave, personal chef, housemaid, therapist, shopper, PA, and basically a single mom for allowance… i would kill myself.
Sociologists say its from how much internet porn has completely destroyed what sex is supposed to look like. Even little boys think sex is violently raping teens throat and ass now and theres no way to reverse its effect on humanity. After the hardcore section disappeared its just going to keep getting younger and more brutal.
But autistics without empathy can't get a endorphin rush or an emotion from watching another person. Its usually trains or music or something to "stim".
I've already "put myself out there" though. I don't know why, but for some reason every guy I have chance to get close to, always drops a bomb at me: "women are less intelligent and lazier, but you're not like other women!", "I prefer poly, open relationships", "marriage is basically a lost game for a man, as women make less money". I don't know why, they seemed to be very sweet, down to earth and nice.>>211347
Thank you anon, that is a good point! I think I'm more curious than desperate.>>211445
Thank you, that's awesome! I think my interest vanishes with time, what about you? Have you always had this mindest?
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I can't sleep, haven't slept a wink in 4 days. I can't stop the voices in my head, I think I'm going insane.
men ain't genuine. My ex bf was perfect at first sight but then I discovered he had some nasty ass fetishes that made me realize some stuff that was kinda odd but not wrong? he was trying to fulfill his fantasies in some shady ways that doesn't count as cheating.
If he isn't upfront at first it's suspicious.
sounds like a typical night to me.>>211530
cause problems down the line. People with weird fetishes tend to act upon them.
If anon is thinking about the long-term: How's this guy going to react as she ages and gets less child-like? Will he cheat with a younger girl?
What if anon, heaven forbid, were to have a child with this person? Would she have to worry about her child being molested?
I wouldn't take it lightly. Either way, anon should just leave as clearly she isn't feeling the same since she found out.
Pedo roleplay and lolicon is weird.
Seems wasteful to torpedo a really compatible relationship based those reasons.
Everyone has to worry about cheating, and molestation isn't rooted in attraction anyway.
That anon hasn't given much details on the role play with his ex, and it could something as small as "call me onii-chans". So it's not warranted to call him a pedophile until anon clears it up since she hasn't mentioned anything involving children period.
She's his type and apparently they are pretty good together. It's silly to consider his attraction to her as a fault in the relationship.
Ikr? But after a long break from tumblr I came back and it's suddenly full of people claiming they are pedophilies but they deserve to be alive and loved, blah blah hugs for all my pedo ppl who haven't hurt a child, etc. Like wtf? Is this a fucking trend know? A new cool mental illness to have?
So I would say, it's just a response to a problem emerging in the interwbez, even if people are not fully aware of it
Me and my first boyfriend used to role play/fantasise about some abhorrent things, neither of us have ever wanted to take it to IRL. I’m sure nearly everyone on this site has fantasised about a scenario that wouldn’t excite them if it really happened. The fact he’s so cagey and disgusted by it is actually a good thing - he knows it’s wrong and actually far less likely to act on it.
Doesn’t mean that what >>211534
said isn’t a point though. Yeah sure everyone is at risk of being cheated on and molestation often has no correlation with attraction, but do you want it on your mind if it’s a fantasy you can’t indulge?
There’s growing evidence that organic paedophilia (“true” attraction) is a sexual orientation. Taking it to bare bones biology, any adult sexual attraction that isn’t to an opposite-sex adult is atypical because it’s impossible to reproduce, which is basically what defines a paraphilia. Homosexuality used to be described as a paraphilia for this reason.
Also to point out that society as a whole tends to call anyone who likes people under the age of consent a paedophile, when biologically speaking as long as said person can reproduce they’re no longer biologically a child. Not a fully-formed adult for sure, and still fucking weird because of personality etc, but it’s not the same as being attracted to a 3 year old or something.
/sage for having studied this and wanting to contribute faxxxx
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One of my exs is orbiting me pretty bad.
On Halloween he sent me a drunk fb recording telling me how pathetic he is and how much he misses me. I didn't respond.
Then last week he took a screencap of my relationship status on my fb that says "It's complicated with bf" and asked me (pretty aggressively) what that meant. I explained to him the truth, that my bf and I got on some rough ground and I had changed it last year. I simply forgot to change it back and we're not planning on breaking up. Relationships are kinda complicated anyway? Not that we depend on fb to define how our relationship is. My bf has lived with me for three years and we get along fine.
I explained all that to him, and he ignored me until last night just to PM me another 'Miss you.' I've been politely deflecting and being honest with how I feel, but I'm starting to get resentful.
Truth is, I don't think he even "misses" me. I think he just wants me to reciprocate attention and wouldn't give two shits about me otherwise. He probably only sends me this shit when he's drunk or high anyway. And who knows how many other girls he PMs saying the same shit, hoping one of them responds.
I'm like a supply, and I felt that way when we dated back in freakin' 2010 too. Things were always about his needs and his damage, which is why I left.
Idk why he even thinks that if he had a chance, that it would work out. He lives like two states away from me in abject poverty. None of it is logical.
>>211503>we have almost no female pedos
Obviously you don't remember all those creepy middle aged female superfans of Justin Bieber back when he was like 13.
Or what about all the pedo female fans of Finn Wolfhard on Instagram? Hell, all the boys of Stranger Things gets it to a degree.
I'm also guessing you've never heard of Butterfly Kisses?
Only an idiot would think there are no female pedos. It's just that society is more tolerant of them because they're considered not dangerous.
i feel you anon, i don't know if it's worth it either. just constant fear and tiredness and nothing worthwhile to balance it out. we are like battery animals but with the illusion of choice.
honestly i just started working at a card shop and i'm eyeing those massive canisters of helium we use for balloons and thinking about exit bags near-constantly on my shifts.
sorry i don't have anything uplifting to say, i can only empathise. the anon who asked about the farm might be onto something, maybe we both need a radical lifestyle change.
They say that the difference between a bad haircut and a good haircut is 2 weeks! It's sort of true.
I just fucked up my fringe thanks to a tremour when trimming and cut it super short to balance it all out, it was heinous (I'm a fatty too so extra heinous). But it actually only took a couple of weeks and a trip to the hairdresser before it was fine again. You'll be okay, it can only get better from hereon out!
Try not to focus too hard on it - easier said than done. Do your makeup extra nice or dress in a way that makes you feel good while you wait.
>>211574>it seems like every person i meet who shows some interest has already shagged my sister (small ruralish community).
As funny as I think that is, have you considered moving or something? I can empathize with losing touch of your friends as they start dating someone, I'm not even half as close as I used to be to my best friend now that they finally have a good boyfriend. While I'm glad she seems to have finally found something healthy, I struggle balancing the fact we rarely hang out now against respecting the fact she has so little time and energy left juggling everything.
>i've sort of willingly let myself get led on in an online "relationship" with a guy and it's shady as hell, but i think i carry on with it knowing it's fucky because it's easier than dealing with intimacy issues.
Yeah I'm not even going to go so far as to say you should close yourself to making close relationships long distance, but if you feel like the person is fibbing about who they are or are hiding something you should really back off.
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Basically the female equivalent to NAMBLA.
Some of the quotes I've seen from that website are rather disturbing. Lots of people happy about the fact daddy is out of the picture now so they can have a "consensual" sexual relationship with their daughter.
My friend gave away something of mine and informed me afterwards that she did it. I am upset as fuck, because she has done this a lot. She did not have the courtesy to ASK me can she sell/give MY things away. Instead she did it and then informed me and apologised for it. It was clearly a "easier to apologise than to get permission" -situation. She has been getting upset randomly over shit and has been hostile for the last month. This was the last straw and I am on full avoidance mode of her. The problem with her, is that she does things and apologises with a grand gesture but re-does it again and again. If confronted, she play as the victim.
She is either a good friend or borderline embodied to deal with and I am not sure can I deal with it much longer. It's hard to deal with her, since I am pretty sure she has borderline, but she goes out of her way to act out her borderline towards me. I have gotten guilt tripped by crying MULTIPLE times, targeted with her inability to control her inappropriate anger, her being paranoid towards me, her emotionally tripping me over things with her mood episodes. When the "shit will go down mode" hits, she attempts to get people around her to gang up on the person she is feeling threatened by.
I have avoided her for a bit now and it is just so much easier, but I know I am a bitch for it.
always take insurance info and always call the cops. every time. even if they beg you not to because they already got into too many wrecks, they’re good for the money, etc etc. some old faggot hit me, admitted blame at the scene in front of the cop, then blamed it on me when reported to insurance. it was still ruled their fault anyway because they’re retarded.
anyway the moral is people are shitty and lie.
>>211574>it hurts a bit that they've dropped out of the friendship just because they're getting some dick.
this is adulthood. most adults wind up settling down with a partner and that's who they spend the vast majority of their time with, not friends. and when they actually create a family, there is even less time for friends (outside of like your kid's friend's parents etc).
i notice people seem to really struggle breaking the "bros before hoes" mentality in young adulthood but your friends just aren't that important as you get older. that isn't to say you shouldn't have friends, but don't expect them to want to hang out when they have a family and other obligations.
oh my god this happens all the fucking time.
it's not even that, though. it's the general "get over it" attitude that pisses me off.
"hey yeah I know that you feel like a slug that wants to be buried and forgotten, but yeah just get over yourself. let me rattle off some things that I think you're doing wrong."
this, also don't expect them to have any hobbies beyond extreme normie shit.
I'm talking about things like going to a club replaced with watching football because their husbands watch it. Or getting coffee being replaced with shopping for clothes for their kids.
basically having a kid is the most normie thing you can do and it will boil the personality out of you.
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Ugh I didn't even sage correctly. Fucking hell.
Are you maintaining a schedule?
I have a self made calendar that I use to track all of my assignments and personal errands I need to take care of and I keep it next to my monitor so I frequently look at it even unintentionally. I would probably have a lot of late assignments otherwise.
I was in a group chat and some tard posted a picture of a girl who's picture had gone through the makeapp, and it did a fucking terrible job. Of course, pointing that out made me a jealous bitter womyn for some reason, even though it only removed makeup from one of her eyes, her chest (there was no makeup there) and fucked up her hair color.
Men are so desperate to shit on women it's almost comical.
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It was my 21st Birthday yesterday, and even though i'm blessed enough to have people wish me happy birthday online, i have no irl friends. I went out for my birthday meal with my bf and his best friend. Even the guys gf couldn't make it.
It honestly makes me feel worthless. I'm in my 3rd year of uni, working, and i don't have any friends to invite to something like a birthday meal. My uni course is a sausage fest and my job is the same but they're double my age. Ever since i left secondary school (high school) i'm just been…alone. I am blessed with a loving boyfriend who spoiled silly but i've never had the luxury of having the typical "student" life. People say this is the time where you have the most friends, and if thats true i'd hate to see myself in 10 years. It's just so depressing
I had a schedule, but I threw it away because it didn't work. Or I couldn't make it work. I want to make another schedule, But I'm scared that I may not stick to it.>>211676
Same here except that I'm in community college.
Lmao. I had such a bad falling out with my scumbag highschool friends before I turned 21 that I celebrated it with my parents at a restaurant bc I had no one else I wanted to hang with. The "friends" wanted me to rent a party bus so they
could booze on my dollar on my own damn birthday.
I'm 26 now and have a few irl friends who are wayyy better than my old ones. Having no friends at 21 is not an indicator about future friendships. In fact, I'd argue your 20s is actually the time when you sort out who you want to be friends with.
tbh i've never heard of them! Although doing a quick google it looks like it's the kinda thing i'm looking for if a start my own work!
Thank you so much anon <3
M8 I’m in the same boat. My 22nd birthday was spent completely alone because my bf worked and my best friend lives hours away. Anytime I make new friends they’re quick to drop me because I’m so fucking awful at checking in and texting and replying to posts on facebook/Instagram etc. I’m good in person and can talk for hours, but I rarely see these people outside of work or courses because I’m too drained after hours to hangout.
My bf is wonderful and honestly my best friend, and his guy friends are wonderful too. His friends out more effort into our personal friendship than my own friends. I think I prefe them because Its not expected of me to have to text them all the time because they’re my bfs friends, so it’s easier for me…..but some nights you just want a girl friend to hangout with or go grab a bite to eat with. Only 2 of them have gfs, the one is fairly recent, and the other I can’t stand lmao. My mom only ever had 1 friend because she couldn’t stand any of hers so i know my destiny is pretty much written in the stars
Sorry for rambling lmao, I just can never really talk about this shit
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I live at home while I go to school and I'm fed up with it.
I'm sick of my mother's addiction. You name it and she's addicted to it - food, meth, alcohol, smoking, 50 different kind of pills. It's horrible!
She does nothing but lay on her fat ass in bed all day, commanding me to clean the house, which is full of HER messes.
Literally everyone in the house either works, goes to school, or both. We leave the house looking clean in the morning only to find it a fucking mess when we get home because she gets drunk and stumbles around doing god knows what. And then she has the nerve to tell me I'm fat and lazy. Bitch I take care of the house AND go to school. She just sits around all day like Jabba the Hutt and I feel like poor princess leia.
It wouldn't be so bad if she wasn't verbally and physically abusive. The worst part is that when she tries to get tough with me, I will fight her back, and I'm stronger than her. So when she starts losing, she'll run out into the neighborhood screaming for someone to call the police like a common redneck. She's done this so much that the neighbors have learned to ignore her and the police no longer come when she calls.
Oh, and the candle on top of the shit cake? THIS IS MY HOUSE! I bought it with MY OWN MONEY. But my sister, who helped chipped in refuses to let me kick her out. She complains about our mother constantly, but is under some kind of Stockholm syndrome where she starts to feel bad for my mom if I even bring up the possibility of kicking her out. She's all "We can't put her out on the streets!" I think it would be GOOD for her to suffer a bit and realize how great she's got it here. She's got all the food she can eat, her own room and bathroom, and she does NOTHING. All I want is for that fat old closet dyke coalburner to learn how to shut her god damned mouth.
I'm actually going to just ditch the house once I'm done with school and get a new job. My mother destroys houses very quickly.
She's been through approximately 7 houses since I was born. She thoroughly destroyed every single one.
Here's some common ways she destroys houses:
She refuses to potty train her dogs/doesn't let them outside so they shit and piss all over the carpet. Who has to clean it up? Not her lazy ass. She will watch her dog shit, call me over and demand that I pick it up. Which I do because it's disgusting and I can't stand the idea of it being there. If I don't, she will walk away and leave it there. One time I went on strike for a month, and the entire living room was filled with shit. She didn't even care, other than to complain that the house smells like piss.
She gets drunk and falls into shelves, walls, whatever and breaks them.
She gets angry and throws knives at the walls.
She insists on pushing her bed up against her bedroom wall and rubs her dirty black feet all over them while she sleeps.
She breaks EVERYTHING. I don't know how. She broke the oven as soon as we moved in, and the stove recently stopped working. But that's okay, because she lives off of ice cream, peanut butter (like, plain peanut butter. She eats it BY THE JAR), and microwaved top ramen anyway.
She smokes weed and meth in her room, it now smells like chemicals and dirty pussy.
She floods the bathroom regularly when she showers.
I don't know how she does it, but she pisses and bleeds into the toilet and manages to miss. The floor around her toilet is covered in piss and old period blood. She's going through menopause right now, so it's REALLY old period blood.
She leaves crumbs everywhere and attracts ants.
The rare occasion that she cooks, she always flicks the wooden spoon around, splattering the kitchen with whatever gross shit she's making for her burnt out alcoholic taste buds.
I recently posted a rant about my pedophile uncle, but at this point I almost wonder if I would rather trade him for her. They're both shitty people with too much redneck blood in them.
How does your mom afford to get new houses?
That sucks you have to deal with this anon :(
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I'm planning on it. I've only got 5 months of school left. I've talked with my councilor and she's got a job ready for me in another town once I've graduated. Thank you, Julia! >>211735
Her name is on the deed. I was like, 5,000 dollars short of the down payment so she helped me.
We have a very big family, so it's a big (6 bedroom) house. But we're not rich people. It took my life savings to afford this place.
I don't understand my sister's relationship with our mother. My mother takes about 60% of her income. Like literally, she just tells my sister "Give me $200, I want to have fun at the casino." And she'll do it. My sister has even complained to me that most of her money goes to our mom, but she won't listen to me when I tell her to cut her off. She's too afraid of confrontation with my mother. There are times where my sister is crying because my mother is screaming at her, scratching her face telling her that she's a fat whore and she's gonna tell her boyfriend about the way she's treating her. And when I come to defend her (because I love her despite her shortcomings), my sister looks at me with utter venom and tells me to shut the fuck up, and that I need to mind my own fucking business, and that I'm a nosy cunt. WTF?!!! She's my little sister, so it's not like she's trying to protect me from our mother or something. >>211746
She's an excellent con artist. She constantly begs the rest of our family for money and they give it to her. Keep in mind our family is big, but poor. She spends all day on facebook looking for family members that we either haven't seen in years, or have never even met to ask for money. She's a hypochondriac and always has some excuse. It used to be cancer. Now it's Macular Degeneration.
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What boards do you go to? I would consider stuff like /v/ or /b/ a lost cause pretty much, but there are still select generals on /vg/ I like, or more niche boards like /k/, /diy/, or /out/.
you have to publish papers pre master degree? oh lordy
in what kind of studies is this the case?
/v/, sadly. I quit going to /b/ years ago. My favorite generals in /vg/ died out, and /tg/ went from being one of the best boards to a picture-perfect replica of /v/ in just a few years time. >>211778>i feel the exact same, except with like… most of the internet.
This is basically why I didn't leave 4chan for years.>>211779>There are no original content since you will get branded for being "leddit" for anything you create, /Pol/ autists showing their shitty opinions on everyone's throats, trap shit on every fucking board. It's fucking unbearable.
This pisses me off, too. >>211797>The hostility isn't witty or clever either, people seem to do it for the sake of it.
And that, to me, just feels tiring. It's tiring now entering a thread that might have something I like just to see hundreds of posts arguing over nothing.
It's like all the worst of /b/'s teenagers never grew up and just became bigger teenagers.
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We just had to pull this xmas card at work. I'm just baffled as to how our US corporate didn't realize this card would make people mad.
Corporate just makes me wonder if our company is run by kangaroos and dingos
My friend obsessed over fictional characters to the point where she won’t date men who are not exactly like that character. Is it that you’re comparing ur bf to this character, or does he feel inferior/jealous?
Why do you think you have such love for his character? Could it be that something is lacking in your currently relationship that’s causing you to cling to this, or maybe something in your life you’re not yet settled with? It’s crazy that a love for a character should ruin a serious relationship, so I’m curious just how deep this runs?
I don't compare him nor ignore him in favor to the character, I just like the character to a pretty extreme degree. I don't publicly declare my love for the character besides being a huge fan but he knows that I have an obsession and my room has a lot of merchandise.
I don't know if its anything lacking in my life that causes it but I have my fair share of problems I guess. Practically my only friend is my boyfriend so in my spare time I like to admire this character and watch his moments again and look at fanart.
I can relate. At this point I'm just weirded out by men, with few exceptions. When a guy does something good, show sensitivity and kindness, I'm shocked. Sounds ridiculous, I know. It's like sometimes I forget they're human too. But man around me are so stupid, maybe I do have high expectations but on the other hand I'm sure I won't date below my league (however arrogant this may sound…). And I know my type exists, like I just want an intelligent man who reads, loves animals, is sensitive and good-natured. Is this really too much to ask? It's not like I have nothing to offer, too.
I don't know, I find it depressing that maybe someday I will settle for some jerk because of frustration and loneliness. I see so many wonderful women around me dating scumbags or just ugly shallow idiots. Do wholesome men even exist???
Maybe you are right, but I'm not hateful or anything. It's not like I approach every guy thinking they're all stupid. That was just an observation of my circles. I don't even have a good example from my friends, like you do. All my girlfriends are dating awful guys. Not like abusing tier, but definitely problematic
and if they asked for an advice on relationships thread, lolcow would say DUMP. lol.
I know my mentality is warped. But what can I do? Alt right trends and men on internet ganging up on women and feminism doesn't help tbh.
What’s been going on that makes you think he will leave you for this obsession with the character?
Is it like a juvenile character? Maybe you just have an obsessive type personality, like my friend she will cling to one character for years at a time and literally be ALL about them till the next obsessions comes along, and there is nothing wrong with that. Granted sometimes it’s annoying when I don’t really care at the time what they did in episode 200 but because she’s my best friend I will listen and get excited with her because it’s what makes her happy. I’d hope that’s what your boyfriend can do for you as well, but obviously I’m not sure on the whole situation. Maybe just explain to him how you feel and ask why it bothers him so much?
I have a obsessive type personality, your friend sounds a lot like me. I have always been like this including before I met him but it seems to have recently sparked something in him. He really dislikes it and I think it might be sparking some kind of jealous feelings.
I've tried explaining but he won't accept it because he doesn't like how it makes him feel. I never knew before now but I can't let it go. He said we might have to break up if I can't change, it bothers him that much and it has lead to some heated arguments.
I'm really insecure about my bf two timing behind my back.
Now, he doesn't seem like the type at all, is kind of spergy and introverted, has given me access to all his electronics and is online 90% of the time as soon as he gets home from uni but that's not what worries me.
He's a huge gamer and really into the whole twitch/streamer culture, joins a lot of discords and likes adding people, etc. He doesn't stream himself and from what I've seen doesn't really share much with his online friends, but before he met me he used to chat with some Asian girls and acted sorta playful with them (not quite flirting but close), and we live in different towns so I really don't know what goes on when I'm not around.
He knows I'm not okay with camgirls, sexting, flirting etc at all and I don't think he'd do anything but we haven't been dating long and for all I know it could just be a facade. It's driving me crazy, I like him a lot but it's giving me a lot of anxiety.
Drink as much water as you can, even if you're not thristy at all, it'll help to hidrate your body and maybe you'll feel better.
Lately I feel like I've been losing my patience. And it's not when something ''hard'' happens, it can happen even when some small things bother me. For example, my friend is writing a story which I read daily because she's writing atm. She asks me for my opinion and I really like it, which I don't really like it's how she always has to tell me what's going to happen next. I even told her that I don't like spoilers and I prefer to wait but she just doesn't care. Which leads me to feel her as nuisance. I know it's silly, I already talked with her about it but I just can't stop the feeling.
Another friend of mine talks non-stop about a music band which she loves. I like the band, I just don't like being spammed everyday, all the time. If it's now my first friend with her story, it's the other one with her music, if not there's always someone doing almost nothing but bothering me anyway.
I think that's because my life has been hard. Lost both parents at 17, living alone since that age, having no familiar support and currently in a job which I don't like because I haven't found a job related with my studies (I finished my college degree just five months ago).
Sometimes I wish my life was as exciting as before, I'm only 24 years old and I know people thinks I'm not living my life at its fullest. What they can't understand is that I'd give anything to have my old life back, there isn't a day when I don't want my parents back. Just a few years ago my worries were the same that all of my friends have now and it just hurts SO much to know that everything's for me and that I can't do anything to change it.
For example, a few weeks ago two friends were talking about living together in a rented house. I have my own house (because of what happened with my parents and me being the only child) and when people tell me I'm ''lucky'' because of it, I feel so much bitterness that I can't express it with words.
People around me can't comprehend why I don't like partying at Christmas (for example), I don't like going out because I know that not even one family member is expecting to see me the next day at the dinner table, I don't like to think that nobody cares if I'm safe at home even if it's 5 o'clock in the morning. Some years ago I had it all, lunches and dinners with my close-relatives which lasted for hours, presents with a meaning, having to cancel plans with my friend to be with my family and now I have…None of it.
Yeah, it's like no matter where you go, it's always /pol/. I used to check /tv/ but nowadays it's all robot tier sperging, infighting and nitpicking - it's funny to see men being more nitpicky than any farmer on here tbh. (Small example: Gal Gadot is ugly according to them).
Here that kind of stuff gets you banned, there mods are nowhere to be found. LC>>>>>4chan
I actually did, several times. He just says he doesn't know how else to prove it to me that he's not doing anything shady, says it hurts him that I think of him as such and is getting a little tired of having to explain himself every week. Which I kinda get.
I just can't help being anxious, it does go away after a few months since I had the same thing with my previous relationship, but still sucks to go through it again.
wew, are you me? i have the same exact issue with my boyfriend, right down to him getting tired of having to prove he’s not unfaithful.
…this is not helping my paranoia lol
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I hate how there's nothing I can realistically do to make the brat that lives above my apartment to stop running and jumping loudly for hours at a time between 7am-10pm.
I've lived next to a train, I've lived with drug-addicted business majors, and I've lived in college dorms–none of them can compare to how obnoxious this kid is.
It happens every fucking day, almost like the kid has no toys or anything else to occupy his playtime besides run from one side of the apartment to the other. It's not so much the noise as it is the vibrations and rattling of shit in my apartment. Earplugs won't solve that.
And the bitch mother is too lazy to take her little shit outside, to the playground a literal 50 yards away, to work off some energy. Snow and weather aren't excuses because we're southern, the weather is brisk at worst during the day right now.
Worse still is that they're constantly home because the mother is a useless leech and the kid doesn't go to school for an illegal reason I'm sure.
They pretend they don't speak English, and magically when they get the message that maybe they're being too loud, say "Oh well, you know how kids are." YEAH YOU STUPID BITCH, I KNOW KIDS ARE KIDS BUT YOU'RE THE ADULT WHO SHOULD TELL THEM TO CALM THE FUCK DOWN EVERY ONCE IN AWHILE.
I've talked to apartment management, but of course they're toothless and just send lease "warnings" that obviously have gone ignored.
Like it's not my fault their broke ass can't afford a house so the kid can be a shitlord 24/7. I don't do dancing exercise in my apartment because I know how loud it could be for the people downstairs. I don't clean after certain hours because I know the noise could wake people.
I just want to hire someone to stomp loudly outside their door late at night just so they can know how it is to live with constant annoyance. Not every legitimate grievance against someone's kid is some bitter old cat lady who wants to quash someone's childhood funsies. I just want the parents to be reasonable about their brat. Even my friends and bf who've experienced the stomping agree.
I agree with >>211922
, calling CPS came to mind too.
that’s shit, hope that cps tip works out because i’d have no clue what to do otherwise.
someone in my building has been playing loud ass bass music in my building since 5 am and i want to scream. i don’t know how someone hasnt asked them to stop yet (why at 5am????), if i could figure out where it was coming from id fucking year down their door myself but i’m not sure what floor it is. how are people so fucking inconsiderate?
I don't know how legal things work in your country but we (other neighbours & me) had the same problem with a woman whose dogs wouldn't stop barking for HOURS. She had three little dogs who couldn't stand being without her (i.e. when she was working) so they barked all the time, from 10/11 am to 6/7 pm.
Even in summer, when she had holidays, the dogs were barking at 3 or 4 am. It was insufferable.
So we decided to fill a police report. When the dogs were barking non-stop, we also called the police so they could see what we were saying was true, and some neighbour even recorded videos and audios for hours, just in case she denied it.
They gave her a fine and warned her about having to lose their dogs if she wasn't capable of controlling them. I know it's more difficult with children and all but maybe a warning sign will be the start of changes for them? Idk
This just sounds like a really weird situation, like why would your bf even care? Does he
not have stuff that he likes? Does he
not watch football every week or his favorite tv show? Honestly, I wouldn't feel bad about it if he left you over something as petty and dumb as that, if he thinks that he needs to be jealous over somebody who legit does not exist. This isn't your fault, anon.
But, at the same time, if he brings up legitimate concerns (like you become annoying about it and only talk about that all the time), then listen to him. Just don't think this is all your fault and don't be down about people who only want you to care about them them them all the time and nothing else. Not worth your time.
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Yep, internet is dead.
Same, especially on /cgl/
there's always someone posting bait threads/responses, like can we please just ban them already
Stupid venting but hey, felt the need. Met a guy who's just like me (mental issues and cultural background included) and I liked very much speaking to him. He told me very often he loved me but I didn't felt it as something very serious as it is very early.
I saw him randomly today at a convention and was excited to see him, just said hi and went back to my friends, hoping to bump into him again later to have a discussion. He left the convention early without saying bye, just a text saying "I already left :x" and I was bitter he haven't said anything but whatever.
I saw he met another girl who looks like she has some of the same problems he has, and seemed right of the bat interested, and he left a caption on an other picture saying "I'm happy to have known you, sorry." and I feel like it's about me and he's switching girls because I wasn't as responsive regarding to his "I love you" and such.
I feel used, not even being sure this is about me. I have issues managing my emotions and I'm so bitter about the fact that it could be, in fact, about me.
I agree with the other anon in that it won’t be worth being upset over if he was to leave you over something like that. You said that this character sometimes feels like all you have besides your bf, can’t he see why that’s part of why you cling to them? People sometimes cling to things that help them through tough situations. I’m the anon with the friend who’s similar to you, and her recent obsession is really what brought her through her depression, so how Can I not be excited with her when she finds happiness in getting new merch or makes me watch the movie 10000th time. Because of her obsession I grew my interest in the series and have such a love for all the characters. Hell, your bf should be happy that you’re easy to shop for - I imagine anything related to what you’re into is a perfect gift!
It’s upsetting that he feels frustrated with you, but anon I hope you don’t take it personally. It’s part of who you are, it’s what makes you you. If he can’t accept that, if he can’t try and embrace that, if he can’t be happy with what makes you happy - than he’s not the one for you. It hurts like hell I know, but anyone who is legit going to breakup over something like that especially after your efforts at explaining to him, doesn’t deserve you
I understand what it’s like anon, but the biggest and most important part in a relationship especially long distance is trust. If you really have no other reason to suspect he’s cheating besides how he used
to talk to Asian girls back in the day than you’re probably good.
Imagine if he was in your position constantly asking you if you’re cheating and implying you don’t believe him, it can hurt. Trust him anon, and if he is doing things that make you feel uncomfortable maybe ask for those boundaries, like tel me how you know the people you’re adding or who you’re talking to. My bf and I struggled a while with trust because of my anxiety and past relationship hurts too, and so he agreed to boundaries that might’ve seemed ridiculous at first but he knew it’d help me feel better. Our trust grew from then on out and has really helped me. It’s worth a shot if you’re unable to just be vulnerable and trust
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Just a reoccurring vent
>promise myself I will do such and such when off from work with free time
>do none of the things I promised myself
>lounge about and binge tv/eat junk
>tell myself it will be different next week
>it never is
god I hate my lazy ass sometimes, I really need to get in shape, the only I did was order clothes and tidy.
Make small changes every day! Start with making your bed, that always helps.
Anyway here's my little vent for the day: exams are coming up soon, and everyone's retreated back into their rooms to study. I've got no one to hang out with or talk with, so I'm feeling a little lonely. I've started talking to a friend studying overseas but understandably, he can't entertain me all the time.
It's hard being an extrovert sometimes.
Could be. Art to Play, Nantes, France !>>211956
Sure, but I think I feel this way because I gave my trust too easily and opened myself to someone who probably just was there to "have me" so I feel used, but by my own mistake.
being introvert is pretty good for that, hang out with friends and chill to relax
I've been doing small changes but its tough, trying to find a good work out routine for lazy fatasses
Fucking me too. Watching the new h3h3 video and boyfriends getting a fucking boner to clothed bouncing titties like a 13 year old and making dumbass comments about how DISTRACTING it is. We didnt even finish it cuz he was getting so horny over it. I wound up blowing him because my insecure ass didn’t want him jerking off in the shower thinking about other women.
I swear I’m just going to start dating girls.
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Her sandwich doesn't even look that good
At least its better than that Spiderman, Elsa bullshit from a bit ago.
Cultural background as in we have the same origins and fucked up family type situation.
What makes you upset ?
I meant what cultural background in particular
I'm upset because I met a guy yesterday who matches your description to a T, his dad is ex-Yugoslavian and he has been acting really strange to me lately. So I'm worried that it is him.
I don't know how you can still date someone like that anon. Have you ever talked to him about how it hurts your self-esteem and feelings when he makes comments about other tits?
He sounds kind of autismo. This is like a girl telling her bf how turned on she is by someone's pants bulge. It's weird and it appears to be crossing a boundary.
Not sure what state you are in, but this is actually against the law. It's a clause about peaceful enjoyment of your property, so even if it's not during quiet hours, excessive noise is illegal.
That being said, you have 2 things you can do:
1. Document (send an email) to your LL during every single time you hear the kid. If you hear them at 7am, 7:30am, 8am, 8:05am, 10am… EVERY time. Send a message to your LL or at least document it. This is crucial. After a certain amount of time, your LL is supposed to issue a warning. If they don't, you can show your LL the clause about excessive noise and the right to peacefully enjoy your home.
Another option, which might work better in your case, is once you can determine the kid is of age to be in school, report them to the cops. Frame it as, you have been hearing a lot of excessive noise from the apt since (insert start date) and you are getting concerned since the school year already started. You are worried for the child's safety.
If the kid is old enough to be in school, just keep calling the police when you hear them home during school hours. The cops will most likely scare them into keeping the kid under control.
Source: I did option 1 and the family got evicted.
As someone with borderline and bipolar… cut her off. You're not a bitch for it. There's help available for people with mental health problems, if she chooses not to get it then she has to deal with the consequences. You haven't signed a contract saying you'll deal with her shit just because she's ill, you're not married to her anon.
She'll get better one day and understand why you did it. Or she won't, and she'll add you to the endless list of people who "abandoned" her for "no reason". Your life will go on regardless. Treat yo'self.
You're aware that most of the
women doing this don't find it empowering and do it because it's pretty much the only thing they can get money from, right? It's more comfy than outright on the street prostitution. Only a minority of people truly do it by choice.
The cow do it because they are stupid and don't think about the consequences but the rest just don't care because it pays and they wouldn't get a job anyway.
>>212049>I'd say it's less demeaning too.
Ntayrt- I've thought about this a lot and I really don't think so.
On a decent day ie. The team does a good job and one gets no shitty customers, there's really nothing undignified about working retail or fast food. They're just doing a service for money in exchange like most humans on earth do.
In fact, many people respect service workers because they assume that it does take a great deal of patience and responsibility.
It only becomes demeaning when working class rube customers decide to use their little sliver of power over service workers to act shitty. Or if a power-tripping management decides to make things harder for the workers. Yet not every retail or fast food job deals with those problems on the daily. These jobs really only suck when the people you're dealing with suck.
I can't think of many dignified things about being a sex worker other than being your own "boss" (sometimes) and setting your own hours. Most cam hosting sites still take their cut of your money. Sex workers put up with a lot of disrespect and trolling. It's also stressful to keep up appearance and to look a certain way or risk losing their clientele, and even then they're nitpicked and objectified for it.
Idk, like another anon said, it seems like most people in sex work are doing it because they don't have a choice. And the ones who went into it willingly are just ignorant and don't think of consequences.
Are you a robot? What's wrong with making a couple of bucks off of thirsty dudes?
It's not like this girl is all rainbows and sunshine. She is always complaining on fb about her PCOS.
Most of the time guys just hang out with who they think is hottest regardless of their characters.
Not a robot but a farmer, I've never dated anyone for money. Some guys do indeed have standards.
But yes, it's probably the obvious autism.
you sound insecure, and i'm gonna assume right there thats why no one is asking you out.
that, or considering the fact youre not really looking to date them anyways, it's probably they don't sense interest. maybe also lose the "i'm better than these people" attitude and you'll catch urself a date!
(assuming this isn't bait)
Well I guess so. But it goes both ways. I never get cat called either. I feel pretty safe walking around the streets around the city at night. But obviously these cat callers are avoiding me because of my bad personality.
I've also worked retail and even working at a board game store I never got bothered by the customers. So yeah I'm sure the girl I'm talking about would love to trade places with me if she is so bothered by guys harassing her. >>212150
Well yeah I am "jelly". Duh. But I assume it's robots because look at the free stuff from guys thread at /g/ and it's full of robots raging. So yeah when some one is complaining I feel inclined to think they are a robot. >>212118
LOL ok. Way to play armchair psychologist. My best friend is a guy. I hope you are just trolling.
Your best friend doesn't want to fuck you though lol.
Also, robots aren't the only people who think that gold digging is dumb.
>>212153>I never get cat called either.>But obviously these cat callers are avoiding me because of my bad personality. > it goes both ways
So…you're ugly and shitty, got it (as if it wasn't apparent by your attitude here)
Seriously, you're like that one really unbearable girl who complains that all her fat and ugly and shitty friends have bfs or are engaged, when in reality, you are the fat, ugly, shitty friend.
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Im trying to book something nice for my best friend, her bf and me to do as a joint Christmas gift but I can't think of anything. Was going to book a cat cafe but right before giving my card details I remembered shes allergic to cats kek. Its not that bad but it want her to have the full ~experience~ without getting a rash or whatever plus we can go anytime. I want to do something unique and special, that's like a one-time thing (the cafe is always there plus we talked about going before so it won't be as much as a surprise) but its just so hard to find things that are 1)not crazy expensive and 2) not fully booked already. I thought about a play or dinner show but you have to pay those upfront; I can't afford that right now and everything is gonna be booked up by the time I can pay, which is why a nice meal was a good idea but I feel like we've been to most places in my city already. We've already been to most galleries and museums too plus they always have the same displays. Google only gives experiences for couples even though I said 3 people in the search…
Its really stressing me out a lot and I don't know why. I just want to do something fun and memorable, surely there must be something, I mean I live in a major city ffs but I frequent the same places so Im sure im missing something really cool
What does my weight have to do with it? o_0
And not being catcalled means I'm ugly and shitty now? That is a newsbreaker>>212154>Your best friend doesn't want to fuck you though lol.
What does that mean? A lot of guys will fuck about everything. There's almost literally no girls who are unfuckable.>>212158
Yeah I know. There's a good chance I will be a spinster.>>212159
The video game industry is a horrible place to work in general, especially if you have a lack of motivation.
Not the anon you're replying to, however I've been reading your replies and you seem to flip-flop on a lot of things you've said.
>A lot of guys will fuck about everything. There's almost literally no girls who are unfuckable.
Then why is not getting catcalled or hit on such an issue for you if you consider that something guys just do to try to get their dicks wet?
Do you actually want guys to like you or not?
>But obviously these cat callers are avoiding me because of my bad personality.
You kinda implied here that the lack thereof can't be because of your personality, but rather how you look. So what do you look like?>What does my weight have to do with it? o_0
Well you know that looks must be relevant because you can't understand how your chubby, 'not-so-attractive' friend somehow gets the guys.
So what do you think your physical problems are? Assuming guys can fuck anyone and personality and behavior don't matter as much.
all of this, thank you anon. i don't get what she's saying.
>guys aren't into me but they're interested in literally everything but me, but that has nothing to do with me being shit or ugly, it's them, but btw they don't care about personality or looks and will fuck anything, but they won't give me attention
wtf does that mean?
I guess not>>212161
>Then why is not getting catcalled or hit on such an issue for you if you consider that something guys just do to try to get their dicks wet? >Do you actually want guys to like you or not?
You think catcalling is a sign that a guy likes you? I just don't get much attention from guys. Personally I would take the level of attention my fb friend gets and maybe she would switch places with me if getting attention bothers her so much. That's all.
>You kinda implied here that the lack thereof can't be because of your personality, but rather how you look. So what do you look like?
I look pretty average.
>So what do you think your physical problems are? Assuming guys can fuck anyone and personality and behavior don't matter as much.
I think I look average. The thing that comes to mind is probably that I have a weird gait/body posture that makes me look autistic.>>212163
I guess not lol. >>212164
I already said in my first post I give off an autistic aura. That's all. It's not a "shitty" personality or looks.
Are you trying to imply I'm wrong by saying guys do have high standards for casual sex?
>>212175>You think catcalling is a sign that a guy likes you?
By "like" I meant "be into you." Enough for you to get hit on or noticed by guys in public. Guys have to 'like' how you look to generally be first interested in you.
You know your autism influences your self-awareness to the point that it affects how you present yourself. Yet you're putting down your friend for being fat as if it's her fault that she doesn't have autism and guys can look past her weight.
Just work on being more self-aware and don't treat guys like tools for attention/money and you should start seeing results. Really.
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>>212176>By "like" I meant "be into you." Enough for you to get hit on or noticed by guys in public. Guys have to 'like' how you look to generally be first interested in you.
Thanks for the tip.
>You know your autism influences your self-awareness to the point that it affects how you present yourself. Yet you're putting down your friend for being fat as if it's her fault that she doesn't have autism and guys can look past her weight.
I don't understand where I was putting down my "friend". This is a girl I barely know and she posted a rant on facebook for the world to see. Pic related. Not really sure where people are getting she is my friend from.
>Just work on being more self-aware and don't treat guys like tools for attention/money and you should start seeing results. Really.
Weirdly enough this reminds me how I don't get the random Indian men adding me on facebook that most women get either. Weird.
Then maybe you should be lecturing anon about that, as she believes public displays like that are a sign that she is attractive. Just like how she observes this other fb person of hers getting hit on and being jealous of it.>>212189
You're being stubborn.>I didn't say she was my friend
You said someone on your facebook which means you have her as a friend on your feed.
Maybe you should have just said you're getting jealous over someone you barely know just to have cleared that up for us. But that doesn't seem any better, does it?
That caption isn't even something to be jealous of. That's fucking annoying to have to deal with and you're salty because you've never personally had to deal with it. Ugh, just move on girl and unfollow this one on fb if what she rants about bothers you.
I never said it was attractive to be catcalled, and I wasn't complaining.>>212200
Yeah I guess I am :^)
The few times I did get harassed while traveling, I didn't complain about it online. So you're wrong.>>212199
You literally brought up being catcalled tho >>212153
. I don't even think you know what you're saying anymore. Probably can't even keep track of all the things you have a problem with.
>>212153>So yeah when some one is complaining I feel inclined to think they are a robot.
I'm not complaining. If you want some weird sugar baby dynamic, you do you. But as I pointed out, most people arent really into that and your attitude will seep into other aspects of life.
If this is a threshold for being a robot in your mind you really have some shit to work on.
I'm sick to all hell of talking about trans people. I'm tired of the discourse, I'm tired of it being the fucking oppression olympics.
I'm sick of the fact that today, in two separate places about two different things (and one was lolcow so if you're that person fuck off), I had to read the same bullshit, "You know trans women have it worse than cis women, right?" Fuck you, m8. I'm not just some statistic you found on the internet. The repeated abuse, rape and sexual assault I've experienced in my life suddenly doesn't fucking matter to you people in favour of some theoretical trans person, for the sake of your argument. Everything awful that's ever happened to me because of my biology is ignored in an instant because "well, technically, in theory, trans people have it worse". I don't care who has it worse, it's all fucking terrible, stop pitting what happened to me against the bad things that can happen to someone else. Stop acting like you know what a person's been through because of internet numbers and simply assuming they're one of the lucky ones.
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Sometimes I'm envious of cows and homemakers whose bfs/husbands provide for them while they get to pursue their hobbies. Like Suzy and Yumi.
I'm not jealous of how they're demeaned and the kinds of men they're forced to be with in exchange, I just mean how nice it is to not have to work a job AND not be expected to perform domestic labor on top.
I feel so unappreciated for the work I do, and I have had no energy leftover to do things that interest me for the past two years. I get so bitter that I think "equal" relationships were a mistake, bc I'm still the only one who cooks, cleans, and keeps house. I just have a job now too. Men simply aren't being raised or taught how to do these things despite how 'progressive' society is. Once they're grown it's impossible to instill these habits, as in my bf's case. If I want something done I have to ask or nag, like a mom to a teen. Often I don't bother bc bf half asses the jobs and I often redo them. I've tried teaching him but nothing sticks. I don't recall the last time a dinner was made just for me.
I go to work at a job I hate, and then come home to even more work. If I don't work enough to pay the bills, bf gets indignant. I'm depressed and anxious.
I've often thought of moving back with my parents so I won't be dogged about finances and be around my mom who is also spotless–my mom is a narc so this is saying something about my desperation here.
Or moving to a rural area by myself so rent can be cheap and I won't have to clean as much bc I won't be picking up after someone else constantly.
I feel like I'm approaching a breaking point. For now I'm staying in the situation for an unrelated reason, but come next summer I may be out for good if I don't suicide first.
you sound like me anon. my boyfriend never picks shit up after himself then he gets pissed at me because I'm not cleaning, but he doesn't realize I clean up after myself THEN AND THERE because I don't want a huge fucking mess. Whenever I cook, I used to make enough for the two of us. When he does, he runs to the store and gets something for himself rather than the both of us and get's upset when I ask for some of it. Because of this, I stopped cleaning up after him (thus, him getting pissed when he has to do it) and I cook for myself. If he's not going to treat me like we're not just roommates, then I'm not going to either.
I'm also moving back in with my dad soon because of this too. I am halfway packed but with work and a broken down car it takes a miracle to be able to find a day to move shit. But even with half of it packed up and moved, I am already super relieved. I think that if you're still having these issues by summertime, you should do the same. It's not fair to you to do all of the work. And he might even learn to not be a lazy fucking slob if you leave.
ntayrt i've cried at almost every job i've had tbh. only once i was sent home but it was because they were worried about my mental health and wanted me to call it a day lol - your boss must've just been heartless, or maybe was it another reason you got fired?
Practice interviewing, get someone to review your resume, and dress as nice as you can. i understand if you don't have much money but presentation really does matter. Ask to speak to the manager directly, tell them a bit about yourself while you're handing in your resume and call places back that were actively hiring to see if they had a chance to review your resume. Be as smiley and pleasant as possible, try not to be nervous or discouraged - just fake confidence. Tell the people you're really interested in their business, or something, just bullshit your way into it basically.
If all else fails try factory work, theyre usually almost always hiring (through temp agencies sometimes so look into that too) and it's a quick way to make good money. It sucks, but it's a start
>>212279>I feel so unappreciated for the work I do, and I have had no energy leftover to do things that interest me for the past two years. I get so bitter that I think "equal" relationships were a mistake, bc I'm still the only one who cooks, cleans, and keeps house.
Then don't, people still need to eat and he'll figure it out. Honestly I have the impression most people are entering adult hood with a disturbing lack of life skills. I've seen far too many people almost seem to brag about how they're incompetent at basic tasks.
The fact is I hate cleaning e.g. vacuuming so I tend to take care of the meals and dishes for instance instead. Try figuring out a division of labor that works for you specifically, or move on if that's not a possibility.
Meh, pick your battles wisely with some of these responses anon.
I often get really dumb replies to my vents too, but that's because people want to minimize answers to complicated issues. I don't respond to the majority of them.
Unemployment is a complicated situation with a lot of variables. I'm really sorry that you got upset at work like that. I've been on the verge of breakdown at my jobs too yet I've had some very understanding managers who would've never hurt or terminated me for it.
It's a matter of time. All I can say is that I hope you keep pushing forward and you start getting callbacks soon. Nobody should have to go hungry and live out of a car.
There’s a girl in my social circle. She’s better than me in every way.
She’s been there for longer than me. She’s incredibly thin, incredibly attractive, good dresser, very popular on social media, and everyone loves her; or wants to. She’s tall, tan, blonde and from a good enough family to be stable, but difficult enough to be interesting. She does well in life but is still vulnerable. And everyone loves her.
She dislikes me because she believes I started a rumor about her last year. I am more of a social pariah than I ever was because she controls how everyone views each other.
And me? I’m short, pale, ugly, nerdy, and my life is a mess. I try very hard but don’t often succeed. My obscure and intellectual interests make me come off as pretentious, not likeable. I’m awkward in an awful way, not in a quirky-cute way. I used to think I knew what I was about. But now I’m stuck. I don’t know if I should try to be more like her or try to be more like something else. I usually just end up being myself, someone who no one really likes.
I hate myself for not being her. I’m a loser. She’s so popular and so loved, and I’m a stupid nobody that tries in too many things and doesn’t really excel in any of them.
I’m spiraling into my eating disorder again because I want to be thin like her. But even that won’t make me any better.
How do you live without jealousy? How do you accept you’re a shitty nobody? How do you accept that people think you’re a bad person because of a lie that continues to make its rounds despite being untrue?
I’m so pathetic.
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I really just want to lose weight, it really sucks ass being a fatty chan
I've lost weight before but steadily gained it back. It's brutal and frustrating but I really want to lose all the weight this time.
Exercise isn't really a problem for me but I'm struggling with how I deal with food, how do people discipline themselves to not eat junk?
I hate myself for giving into temptation almost every time goddammit
Anon, I really feel you, about all of this. I felt the same way a few years ago. I had a friend who was really good at everything I wanted to be, like drawing comics, having stories to tell that I thought were amazing, a family that had rich culture and was close knit, like I never had, and she was thin and pretty and got good grades. Everything.
But you'll get to a point where you realize that there really is no difference between you and her, and that you could have everything she has if you try hard enough to do it (minus the family structure of course). You
can dress well if you learn what to wear. You
can get a social media presence if you learn what to post and when to post it. You
can get people to really love you, as long as you're open with them and love them back.
Even if you can't be 'tall' and naturally blond/tan, that doesn't mean anything about who you are as a person. Having arbitrary things like skin color or hair color doesn't say shit about who you are, just that you are lucky. Nothing more.
Being nerdy or having weird interests doesn't mean anything if you find people that are like you and share your interests, and being awkward is understandable as long as you're honest with others and tell them it's because of anxiety or depression (which I assume you have from this post). You don't need to change yourself, you need to invest in becoming a person that you think is like her, that you think is valuable, that you think other people will love/want to be around.
The only person who is standing in your way, who is calling you a nobody, is yourself. The only person who is comparing yourself to others is yourself (and petty bitches that you shouldn't even be friends with). The people who are calling you a rumor-spreader are liars who don't deserve your time of day if they don't trust you enough to listen to you. Invest your time in people who can trust you more than people you hope to be around just because they're popular.
You're only pathetic if you keep telling yourself that and give up trying to be better. Don't do it, anon, love yourself and put in the effort to be what she is, even if it's in small little ways.
youre having probably a genetically insuline resistance, meaning you gain weight easily on a carbohydrate diet.
try eating more proteine and fats. cut out carbohydrates after 2 pm entirely until breakfast of the next day.
if you dont want to go keto, your breakfast can be high in carbohydrates, your lunch should be moderate in carbohydrates and as I said after lunch (no later than 1pm) no more carbohydrates for the day. stop dringing soda, even if it is sugarfree diet version.
try not to eat industrialized sugar (white sugar) or convenience food as they often add sugar of some sorts to that. try cooking your meals from scratch. Eat plenty of vegetables. Add some nuts to your died.
as you start to cut out sugar and carbohydrates for the evening you will notice that you have way less urge to stuff your face with garbage, because your blood sugar will improve.
If you have a sweet tooth there is plenty of sugar replacement available in the web as stevia, erythritol and or xylitol.
The girl that OP's talking about who was humblebragging about being asked for dates by guys on facebook wasn't exactly secure or hiding her personality flaws either. I don't get why you're all placing the blame on lack of personality and insecurity when the subject sounds she has those exact same issues yet doesn't have OP's problem.
Honestly these posts just sound like you all have a chip on your shoulder or something.
My parents were alcoholics. They wanted to keep it secret, even if the whole family knew it, so I couldn't tell anyone. That got me raised thinking that something in my life was not right, that I was not enough for anything or anyone (I lived this situation since I was 7 to 19). When I was 14 years old, my parents divorced (and not in a friendly way), which led to all my friends / classmates knowing exactly what was happening in my house. I was alone, I don't mean that they did not speak to me in the same way, I mean they never spoke to me again. I was completely and absolutely alone, only with my mother, who died five years later.
Now, in my twenties, I find myself with another group of friends and in a relationship of more than two years.
With my friends, I need constant approval. It is not that they take advantage of me, but that I feel ALL the time the need to know that they are fine with me (that they are not angry with me, etc.), which makes them burdened because I am too attached. Even with people who have treated me worse than shit, I prefer to keep the good things they have, although I know they would not do it for me, because I am afraid of being left alone again.
And my relationship … Well, it's abusive and I'm aware of it. I've never loved anyone like I've loved my boyfriend, never. And it destroys me. He has never hit me, but his psychological abuse is almost a daily thing. When we are well, I am sure he is the love of my life: he treats me better than anyone has ever treated me, he gives me balance and security and I really imagine a life with him.
But when we argue … Ugh, it's the worst in the world. I have never suffered like this. Not even my parents or any family member has insulted me or shouted at me like he does. I know that I have a lot of problems and that I am not perfect, but sometimes I feel that I will never be enough for him. Even if it was, even if I kept changing for him (as I have done, unfortunately), I feel that there is always going to be something that is going to screw everything up.
The worst of this situation is that even knowing everything I know, even knowing that I deserve something better, even knowing that surely there is someone who would love me and adore me for who I am, without conditions or the need to change, I can not stop loving him and believe everything he has told me, in a certain way.
My head tells me that he may be right, that I am useless, that I am the worst thing that has ever happened to anyone and that no one would have me to be in their lives. After all, he knows all my problems and so on and I don't want or feel ready to start the process of knowing someone again.
And I hate myself for it. I hate myself for not knowing how to value myself enough, for having endured the first shouts, for not seeing all the signs and still having fallen in love with him, I hate myself because if my life really had value for me it would not depend on him, nor on my friends, or anyone who crosses my path.
I have lived so convinced since I was little that everything I do can be wrong and make everything so bad, that now I can't live without fear. I can't stand the idea of losing the people I love, I actually have panic attacks every time I think about it. Even when I went to therapy for these things, the advice is the same as I could find on the internet, I have to value myself, I have to know how to accept myself.
The truth is that without the people around me, I would not have anything left. I would have to start from zero again. And I know what that means, I know how it hurts, I know how lonely I felt and how I thought I would never, ever, want to go over it again.
I can not stop thinking that perhaps I am better with my mother, that in a few years nobody would remember me either, that I will simply be another memory. I hate that my head tells me that death seems a better solution than a life full of panic and fear, it is exhausting.
So then why did you say this?
>Honestly these posts just sound like you all have a chip on your shoulder or something.
What are you basing this on?
i hope one day women as a whole will realize men are collectively garbage and become lesbians, leaving them with their limp dick brojobs. i say this as a straight-in-practice girl who seriously just wants to brute force her way into being gay so she never has to deal with another shitty guy again.
the only decent guy i ever dated was asexual. he would fuck me because he loved getting me off, not because he wanted to get his wiener wet. i wish all men were like that, then they’d be infinitely less shit since they’d managed to use their brain for once.
i know i sound like an insane radfem but fuck
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>plan to go to a fancy restaurant for thanksgiving
>real excited, theres going to be an all-you-can-eat buffet with tons of delicious and expensive food
>nothing can ruin this
>thanksgiving day comes
>wake up at 8 a.m. and see mum's been drinking
>ask why she's drinking so early
>"its a holiday, why not?"
>alarms go off in my head, but i wasnt prepared for the shitstorm that was about to happen
>once she starts drinking, she doesnt stop
>when she's drunk, she gets loud, angry, and cant even speak
>its 3 p.m. and time to leave to go to the restaurant
>she was at least on her 9th glass of alcohol by then
>we get in car to leave
>she gets into road rages and fights nonstop along the way with multiple people
>shes driving like a dickhead
>pretends like shes going to hit other cars at 90mph and dangerously swerves in between tight-knit cars on the express way
>swerves off the road a few times because shes so drunk and almost crashes us into the wall that divides the lanes
>pass every single car along the way and arrive half an hour early before our reservation time
>we sit on the chairs in the entrance in front of the front desk
>it's packed, at least 50 people standing in the entrance alone, waiting to be seated
>mum starts shit talking everyone like the drunken, alcoholic piece of shit she is
>with each passing minute, she gets louder and louder and wonders why she's getting dirty looks
>can't believe this is happening god kill me
>she starts talking to me specifically
>"take a good look at all the motherfuckers that are too lazy to cook on thanksgiving" (yet shes there with me)
>"every single person here is a fat, lazy skank" (she's overweight herself from all the fucking drinking)
>"ugh look at her, she looks like a tranny man"
>"no one here is even a true american, it's all dirty foreigners. they need to go back to their own country. they dont celebrate thanksgiving thats why theyre all here instead of at home cooking!" (bullshit, theres plenty of white americans around and even the so called "foreigners" were speaking english)
>people are staring and laughing at her
>theyre looking at me too
>feel like utter shit because they probably think i'm as bigoted as her since im her daughter
>i get more and more embarrassed and feel like running out of the place, but i dont bc theres really nowhere to go and its cold af out
>the hostesses start letting people scheduled later than us, get seated before us, for some reason
>more and more people that were scheduled 15 minutes after us are being seated right as they walk into the door
>mum notices and gets really pissed off at this point
>"if they dont seat us, im going to give them hell and call the manager"
>mum's boyfriend is there with us, says some shit to try and calm her down
>mum SCREAMS, "if they don't seat us, i'm going to raise hell like a NIGGER, motherfucker!!!"
>"IM GOING TO ACT LIKE A NIGGER"
>"fuck that bitch (the hostess) and her giant unicorn mole on her forehead!"
>everyone is listening to this shit and all the hostesses can't stop looking at us
>holy fuck just shoot me
>one of the hostesses is black and hears her say nigger
>black hostess says "ma'am, you will be seated when we have a table available for you."
>mum is still talking shit about anyone who walks passed us
>i'm so upset and humiliated, i start crying a few minutes after the nigger thing, trying to fight off the feeling but muh social anxiety is triggered to the max
>she chose to act like this on a holiday
>keep listening to her seethe hatred, bigotry, and misery
>it's actually really scary listening to my own mother speak this way while everyone else is out trying to have a good time with their family and be normal
>the cheery christmas music playing in the restaurant isn't helping
>reminds me of how dysfunctional my family and entire life is
>tears won't stop flowing
>the black hostess looks at me and notices
>i cant even fucking look her in the eyes anymore, i feel bad for her bc of what my mother said
>she glances at me again and just calls our number and our names right away
>not sure if that was coincidence or not but im glad to get away from all the people in the entrance
>have to walk through the restaurant to be seated with visible tears and smeared mascara all over my face while everyone does a double take wondering wth is wrong
>takes me a good 20 minutes to be okay enough to get up and walk around to grab myself a plate of food after her bf's awkward attempts to make me feel better
>used to go to this restaurant frequently throughout the years
>will never be able to go again bc everyone will remember the time my mum spewed racial slurs and threw around insults like an animal
I'm honestly just hoping no one recorded that shit to throw on the internet. I know public freak out recordings can easily go viral but even more so when racial slurs are involved. I'd hate to have my face be defamed just because I was associated with her and my anonymity taken away.
I feel like utter shit over it, anons. I just hope your Thanksgivings were quadrillion times better than mine was.
>>212631>drunk mother driving on a holiday
Anon, are you a minor? I would've called the cops and told them her plate number. She put you in danger, but also other families as well.
Sorry to hear about everything else, but this is really disconcerting.
Christ anon, this is when you start seriously considering going no contact with a parent. Also never let yourself ride with a drunk driver again, that's a really quick way to get yourself hurt if not crippled. To echo what the other person said, consider calling the cops if they insist on driving in that situation.
Makes me appreciate how my holiday had 0 conflict even if I felt a bit awkward at times.
I am not a minor, promise. I am 20 years old and couldn't get my license because of my medical condition. My mum was the only person able to drive us and she knew that, so if she really cared about my safety or feelings, she wouldn't have drank all day beforehand or acted like she did. >>212641>>212643
Trust me, I've wanted to get away from her for a very long time now. She was never kind to me either and always abused me physically, emotionally, financially, and psychologically. After yesterday's antics, I won't be going in a car or anywhere with her in general. I've been waiting my entire life for the day I am able to leave her for good. Thank you, anons. I did not think to call the cops since at this point, the drunk driving has always been a casual occurring thing for me and I will keep it in mind if she ever tries to force me. And thank you for the consolation, >>212643
I really needed to hear that.
I don't think a scale and a measuring tape would improve your hangup, because then you'd just be focusing your negative thinking on numbers.
This sounds like a mental image problem that you should probably be discussing with a therapist, anon. If you hate yourself, then you'll hate no matter how skinny you go.
No solutions to offer but I feel the same. I lost 7 kg so far from eating healthy (and I hate to admit it but skipping dinner when I had too much at lunch) and walking everyday.
I notice the difference when I'm clothed but naked I just see the same old bloted stomach so I'm wondering if I was literally blind to it 7kg heavier ?
I've never been an anachan but I feel like I've started picking up dumb tricks like eating unfuriatingly slow when my grandmas force me to eat sugary stuff like homemade pies and cakes.
Everyday I think about walking and I start to be a bit pissed when I can't sometimes.
My gf says I look really good now that I'm at a lower weight than when we met but I can't see what she sees. I still have 10 kg to go so anyway kudos to you for losing those 8kg, I know how slow and hellish this can be !
I've done a lot of things in my life and losing weight/getting over that sugary addiction is one of the hardest, it's really no joke.
hit me up on discord please, ( urmamasofat
Maybe I really should try talking to a therapist. All I really want is to learn to really love myself and my body, but it seems like no matter how much weight I'll lose I'll probably never be completely happy with it. Thank you!>>212671
It just makes me feel relieved to know I'm not the only one in this situation. I've also skipped dinner a few times, but everything I've done has really been an improvement to my previous diets (not eating at all or eating everything).
I feel the exact same way you do!! Some of my clothes do feel loose now, and I know there is a difference in my body especially when I'm wearing my training clothes. But naked I'm just as bloated and fat as I was before.
It's been really hard and I guess I should just be happy that I've come this far, I just hate not seeing the results in myself.
You've done a great job as well, and I'm sure you'll get those 10kg off as well!
Anon is this bait or is this really how you think? I’ve got tiny as fuck boobs, and like you grew some larger ones and lost them again. An ex told me to get a boob job.
But never did I feel like I was hated
People can be assholes, but for god sakes they’re just tits. Wear a double push up, gain some weight, go on birth control if you haven’t already. Or just learn to accept ur boobs.
Are you a cowtits girl trolling? Flat chest got popular late 2000s in internet culture and everything derived from that will have flat lovers in it.
If you're posting here, it's impossible that your circle of friends doesn't overlap with derivative communities.
I'm on birth control, gaining weight didn't do anything either, I don't gain weight in my upper body at all.
And no I'm not trolling. Men have straight up walked up to me and told me my tits were too flat. Almost every single fucking day someone tells me I'm unattractive for having a flat chest. I wish I was joking and I wish it was just playful banter, but it isn't.
I'm 20 and going to uni, so I suppose I'm still in school. Figured myself that it would probably get better after high school, but if anything it got worse since I'm older and thus its expected that I have a more "mature" body.>>212745
There is nothing physically wrong with my body, I have breast tissue, but very little. That +no fat gain=tiny tits.
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>asks friend a few months ago if she would go with me on a concert which is on Monday
>friend says yes
>reminds friend yesterday about the coming up concert
>friend just wrote me: What concert?
w h a t
I don't know how many times we spoke about this concert and now she is all ??? and giving me the vibe that she does not want to go?
We spoke about it every time we talked about our concert plans for this year and last time we talked about it was two weeks ago?
I mentioned quite a lot and we wrote about it and such and that's why I was so surprised about her question.
Since my post here I messaged her again and she said "I thought you wanted to sell those tickets?" and I'm still like ??? why? I never wanted to sell those because it's an american band that rarely comes to europe and I just need to see them because I love them so much.
Idk I really hope I will find somebody to go there because it's quite a bit far away from me and going home late at night isn't that much fun here since I had very bad experiences going by train at night when alone as a girl :(
That sucks what happened and how she trashed the new room you got for her. You're a good person, you got a big heart and I hope your sister realizes that she is lucky to have you. Take comfort in the fact that college students are generally irresponsible and still growing and learning, they're almost adults but not quite adults yet. I was a spoiled bratty jackass in my college years too and I'm not proud of it. Hopefully she grows up soon.
You should also confront her and tell her about what you have done for her, and see what she says.
Also, maybe don't put all your efforts into helping her again or spending money on her, after how she's treated you.
She sounds like a high-functioning alcoholic.
Replace alcohol with heroin and her behavior is no different than an addict's.
She lied to you about her bills so you'd be guilted to give money.
Instead of using the money to spend towards living essentials like food, she spent it on her drug of choice.
She used the room you worked hard on as a place to get drunk (high) and use as a comedown (crash).
This has addiction written all over it. Someone should help her before it becomes a major problem. Like getting DUIs and evictions.
thank you anon, that's really kind of you to say. it's been a tearful old day but that helps.
i think when she is back for christmas i might sit her down and have a word, like you say - though am not expecting anything beyond a tantrum. :') maybe in time it will sink in.>>212766
thanks anon. yeah, i understand what she is, it's just hard to say outright. that's how our dad died actually, his liver gave out at 47. so it's kind of traumatic to see it happen again - i've hosted family "interventions" with our grandparents and uncle, and done reading up on it and i know she's sick, but it's so hard not to take this personally. you see glimpses of the cute fun kid she is beneath it so it's hard to separate her addict behaviour from who she is, do you know what i mean?
i've urged her to see a doctor - she was taken into hospital with alcohol poisoning aged only 19 during her first year of uni and it stopped my heart when i heard. then she broke her wrist in six places falling over drunk. even then, doctors won't help me with her because i'm just her sister, and she won't go under her own steam. when i try to push her she just runs away back to university - she's a student in wales while we're based in england so often we don't know what's going on.
at a loss as to how to help. if you have any suggestions anon i'd be grateful, you seem really knowledgeable about this!
well, that will be the 31th and 32th people who I cared about, tried my best for, then ghosted me (not relationship wise, this includes friends, jobs, family, etc)
I'm going crazy anons, I have their address, keys and code, I don't know what to do I'm scared for myself and I'm scared I'm going to lose control I'm so fucking tired of this, why do people think it's fun and hilarious to convince me they care then walk away, even a fucking 2 word message would give me a better grip on my sanity, I want to scratch my fucking eyes out I dont know what to do anymore
I feel like a piece of shit for being hurt and upset by this. My best friend had surgery a while back, and has to go to the hospital twice a week. She's needed this surgery for a few years now and I'm extremely happy for her that she finally had it. For about a year now, she would not seem to even try and respond to messages I send. This wasn't the case before, we would try and talk every week. Every message or call she would send to me about anything, I made sure to respond. I talk to her around her schedule since I know that her health is very important and multiple hospital visits is draining and awful. But I feel like she is slowly losing interest in me. Its not like we don't anything in common anymore, we talk for hours at a time. And its fine if she wants to gain more independence now without having to worry about her health, I honestly hope she does. But it seems she doesn't even attempt an effort to even respond or try and talk to me anymore. Not even to just humor me with a "lol", nothing. Anytime she would be interesting in something, she would talk about it for hours with me, even if I didn't understand anything, but I would listen and try and be involved. Has never done the same for me, and only sits in awkward silence and it makes me feel stupid for even talking. She done this before though, and won't talk to me for nearly two months and then suddenly comes back. When I ask her if she's been alright, she nonchalantly just say she's been hanging around. I know recently that her treatments have lessened and she has a lot more free time now (told me herself). Its been almost a month now since we've talked though. I feel such a selfish disgusting person for letting my own petty loneliness dictate my feelings, even though she has more important shit to worry about. But im virtually friendless myself and I don't think I could ever find another friend like her, online or real life.
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I've had a pretty intense depressive episode going on for about a month, and it all turned into one big emotional breakdown while at my parents house last night. They were very supportive and suggested that I should try and set up an appointment to see my therapist; the problem is that I haven't spoken to her in a year. I one day felt like I didn't need to go and just stopped taking my meds and never went back. I still have her email but I'm scared she'll be upset with me or not take me back as a patient. I don't even know what to tell her at all, it just feels like too much at this point.
anon, i can't help u with the drug shit.
but u say you know ur bf treats u like shit, u know u need to dump him but u wont. then u say ur therapist is really good but doesn't work for u. i think it's just because ur not doing what u need
to do for urself, not taking the advice of ur "really good" therapist. shit is hard, and its going to get hard before it can get better. thats how it always is. ur gonna live in total despair unless u actually take action and do something about this. dump the dude. focus on yourself
focus on getting off the drugs, focus on getting a job. that dude is a piece of shit, and no one is worth constantly feeling like shit over.
They're on my hands too. I do wear long sleeves but it's hard to remember to keep them pulled up all the way.>>212923
I think you're right, thank you.
How much money could you possibly need, enough for a tank of petrol? Your friend is in danger and being raped repeatedly over the course of several days and you can't even borrow money or sell something to go help her? Why don't you go to the police for her?
I'm genuinely confused as to how you can react to a friend being trafficked by sitting on your ass and asking lolcow what to do.
I just need to dump this to get this off my mind hopefully.
I had an incident yesterday. I was driving down a (normally very busy) expressway, in the very far left lane. A car with an old couple inside was coming out of a lot on the other side, and crossed about 4-5 lanes at once, trying to get into mine. The issue is they didn’t see me at all, if I hadn’t swerved into the median they would have hit me. I avoided the accident but still honked at them for that. And then they started following me. They followed me to a restaurant I was going to meet my boyfriend at. We pulled into the lot and they parked right next to me, got out, and started aggressively knocking on my window. I only lowered it a bit because I was extremely scared, I have anxiety issues. Then the old husband (about 60) began screaming at me, accusing me of almost hitting them. He kept yelling that I came out of nowhere and then demanded to see my license because he didn’t believe I had one. It became such a huge scene, random bystanders were asking if I needed help, and if I wanted them to call the police for me. My boyfriend saw him pull up beside me, and he came over and diffused the situation. I was so shaken from this I could barely eat and mostly just sobbed in the restaurant. Oh and the old couple followed us into there too.
I’ve made a report to the police about it, the operator was very kind and understanding. I just still can’t believe people like this exist. They went so far as to follow me and harass me after almost hitting me. I realize that it’s over and done with now, but it’s very hard for me to cope with stuff like this. Just needed to get this out.
thankfully you're safe anon! hope you feel better
i've had experience with bad drivers nearly hitting into me and some shadow you after and it's extremely unnerving. it's happened to me twice when i was doing long distance driving so i just kept going until they eventually turned off.
glad you reported it to the police
I'm the only person she told though.she knows its me and im scared if I do tell they're gonna hurt her or me >>212932
75$ to get to the city she is in, I tried asking my parents for it but they're poor to and I don't want to ask my other family members because they're trying to pay off medical bills and don't need me on top of it. Evem so, my roommate when I do get back hates my friend and thinks she's hood or whatever so I don't know if he will let her stay there which is another thing because I need to find a place for her to stay >>212941
She doesnt keep contact with her family, I don't know who any of them are
Thank you anon ;___; this response means a lot, I appreciate it.
It took me so long to get the courage to drive, like I said I have a lot of anxiety issues and I thought I finally conquered driving but now I feel so crushed. I have a long commute to work, and basically had a panic attack the entire time. I know I’m probably overreacting, everyone I know is telling me to just let it go. Hoping I can get over this soon.
it's scary to happen, and spooks you that people would follow you. one agro driver was a male with his wife and the wife was filming me on her mobile too, and they were the ones driving like lunatics. very bizarre.
just always drive safe and watch out for yourself on the road and be aware of how others are driving. i hope you feel better driving soon, sometimes if people are tailgating me i flick my rear view mirror up so i dont have them in my eye site and just rely on my wing mirrors til they get the hint. the amount of weirdos on the road is alarming, but i've found that mirror trick is effective as you're basically saying 'look i don't want to interact or look at you' but always be safe!
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I'm feeling like I really want to break up with this guy I've been seeing. He's too fucking emotional, and I'm seeing him being prone to extreme anger over dumb shit (i.e. video games and his job)
He's constantly, literally just grinning at me. When I say something like, "What's up?" He just says "I like looking at you" and dumb cutesy bullshit.
Guy has no personality. I have to start any conversations we have or else I'd be better off staring at my wall, guy gives me nothing to work with and only seems to have a cringy sense of observational humor.
I feel like if it break it off with him he'd start crying and sobbing in front of me.. Then go into his car and start punching the interior loud enough for me to hear.
He's younger than me and I should have known how risky that would be in the first place. Guy's way to immature for me. The fuck do I do here? I feel bad rejecting him but I can't keep this going any longer.
Oh man this is my first time here okay um, I have some things I wanna get off my chest. Here goes.
I always feel like I'm not good in the art field I'm pursuing. I know that practice and working hard really help with confidence and getting better but…it's really difficult for me? It's not that I'm lazy or anything, I will use every second I have to draw whenever I'm not working on homework or going to school, it's just that I'm always bombarded with people who tell me that I will never be good enough in this field – no matter how much I practice. There's so much pressure on me to be great, none of my family members want me to pursue art for various reasons:
I am the first born.
I am the first to go to college.
I am the first one that didn't have a child before 20.
I am the only person in my entire family that is pursuing art as a career.
I'm so very sure they expected me to become a brilliant doctor, a lawyer, a translator, a CEO – but I chose art instead.
It's difficult when you don't have family members that understand that a digital artist relies on their devices for work. It's difficult when they don't understand what it means to do commissions and they just feel it's free money and not work at all. It's difficult when you're trying to practice your craft and all you hear is "you're not doing anything important come help me with this mundane thing".
I look at people who have support from their family and I'm envious. I look at people who are gifted tablets, cintiqs, sketchbooks, mechanical pencils and art pens with envy.
I wish I could do commissions but I just don't feel like I'll ever be at that level. I was told "You really think your art is that special? Do you think it's better than anyone else's? Dream on. There are tons of people better than you" in various ways so many times and it's pushed my self esteem in my art so low that some days I don't even post what I've drawn. Or I just wont draw for months.
I was given multiple opportunities in college to show my sketchbook to professional artists in the industry I want to get into, but every time I chickened out because I heard those words "you're not good enough" revolving around in my head.
I practice, yes. I study, yes. But finding the motivation to pick up a pencil or tablet pen is getting more difficult to do.
I just wish I had a more supportive family that doesn't make snide comments about me wanting to go into the art field.
What can I do to keep motivated? Am I being a baby? Gosh I don't even know anymore. Forgive me for this vent.
I've had a similar issue with one of my exes. They just got so overbearing – even going so far as to plan our wedding and send me an engagement ring.
I really think you should talk this out with him and if you can't come to a truce – just break up with him. It might hurt for a little while but he'll get over it eventually.
Don't stay in a toxic relationship if you just aren't happy, good things don't come out of it for either you or him.
>>213055>The fuck do I do here? I feel bad rejecting him but I can't keep this going any longer.
Reject him. Reason it out. Is there an alternative here? There is no future for the relationship, you don't like the guy. There's no sin in that.
I mean so what if he gets emotional after you break up? Yes, getting dumped SUCKS. But that's part of life, and everyone needs to learn to be able to move forward.
>>212950>I just still can’t believe people like this exist.
Oh man its horrible what people do on the road.
I remember one time my father and I were driving in a separate vehicle than my mother on the way home, ours was his gargantuan truck he uses for his construction business while my mother was driving in a small car. Some dipshit decided to try to play chicken with my mother and nearly ran her off the road a few times, naturally my father was incensed by this and used his much larger vehicle as a barrier between the dipshit and my mother. Then the dipshit tried to start screaming at him once we reached a red light, as if she was the victim in this situation. I will never understand these peoples thought process.
I'm going to echo what the other anon said and get a dash cam, better to have it and never need it than the inverse.
Most people don't know what it feels like to be passionate about anything but TV shows and video games. Your family won't understand you so just ignore them.
You have to post art every day though. Even if it's bad. Because what you produce daily is your real level, and your polished, over-rendered "complete" works are just a lie rooted in your ego.
Accept your true skill level and most of your anxieties will disappear. This is usually where you abandon your old profile and old followers so that their presence doesn't put that stress and pressure on you again.
Don't delete your old work though, those fans still loved your fake self, so at least respect them enough to let them have access to the work they followed you for. Even if the relationship was based on a lie, this is just a good, amicable break-up with your old fanbase.
Make a new account and start fresh. Be honest and post every single day.
Before feminism you could have just been a housewife, and you wouldn't have arguments about money, because you're husband would make enough with his income alone, with only a high-school diploma.
Do you feel liberated in your minimum wage wagecuck job?>>213056
You're going into probably over $30,000 of debt for something you won't make money with. Your family was trying to stop you from ruining your life, but it's already too late.
I almost feel bad for feminists with $50,000 of student loan debt and useless toilet paper degrees, working at Walmart. Your life is completely ruined. You'd have been much better off not going to college, and drawing porn for donations on patreon.
At least then you'd have a positive net worth, instead you're in a massive hole of debt.
Well, as expected of one of these specimens kek>>213066
Ugh something similar happened to a friend when driving to work. Dude felt like making RL into an action movie or something. But in this case, guy bumped her car and he was the one making all the fuss. Like, fuck, entitled narcissism to the top. Some people shouldn’t drive cars, ever.
Feminism is the reason the economy is bad.
Women almost doubled the workforce, thus lowering wages. Allowing women to vote allowed third-world immigration, multiplying the labor supply, which lowers wages and working conditions. Single mothers raise criminals at an alarming rate, this is a drain on tax money because we have to pay for their housing and food in jail, extra police enforcement, time in court, medical bills, property they stole, welfare programs, etc.
Pretty much everything bad in society can partially be blamed on feminism. General moral decay, the economy, suicide rates, crime, everything.>>213089
That's because I have no money.
If I had money girls would be fighting over me. That's one good thing from feminism, since the economy is ruined, if you are a guy with money, you can make females your literal slave since most of them are so desperate for money.
Yes, and let me continue.
>if you are a guy with money, you can make females your literal slave since most of them are so desperate for money
But that guy can't actually marry or have kids with them, because then the government makes him the slave when she divorces.
Dumb bitches, this is why no guy wants to marry or have kids with you, but they'll gladly keep you around for just sex.>>213094
That's because of racial IQ.
and women are doing this while raising kids, being the natural nurturers and teachers of the coming generations and most men can't even take out a bin when asked!
get your priorities sorted dudes, you literally do fuck all but wank and complain.
lmao nice samefagging dickweed. did a lady trigger
They all tell themselves that. All robots think they’re special and a gift to women, when it couldn’t be further from the truth.
Continue to blame all of your problems on feminism, my friend. Women and men alike will continue to surpass you because they take initiative, work their asses off, and don’t blame big bad feminism for their problems. It’s not your funds, it’s you. It’s not anybody else’s problem that you can’t adjust.
Art vent anon here just wanting to clarify – I haven't taken out any student loans and am not in debt? I'm doing two degrees, one for fine arts and one for Business marketing.
But thank you for the anecdote I suppose.
Thank you very much anon! I see what you mean. And I've actually started anew many times for just that reason. Sometimes it was because the followers I had were brought from my ex's fan base so I didn't feel like they enjoyed my art because it was good (which it was far from).
You're very kind and I wish you all the best!
my family asked me to come celebrate my 21th birthday for the weekend even though i had a very busy and important exam week(i live in my own apartment close to my university but an hour away from my parents).so i went,and i told my flatmate to focus on studying and dont plan a birthday party for me(we always plan for each other between our close friend group).
So i went to my parents,on saturday my father bought a cake,gave it to me and said "give this to our next door neighbour,say happy late b-days!" i didn't get what the hell it was and our neighbour wasn't at home anyways,so we kinda awkwardly put the cake in the fridge and didn't eat it.on sunday i studied all day long and waited a suprise but at the end of the day my father came and said lets go i'll drop you home.neither my mom or dad celebrate my birthday,they didn't even mention it.
on monday(actual birthday date) the only person celebrated my birthday was my bf,and 3 people on facebook.that's all.not even my flatmate said anything,not even anybody in our frind circle wished my happy birthday.or my brother.dad later that night send a message celebrating my birthday.it's been days over this stuff (and exams are over too)but honestly i have been feeling so damn sad ever since then.my birthday was one of the most important days in my life and i cant believe my friends which i all helped to make a birthday party even made handcrafted presents,my own fucking family,literally noone remembered or care to say happy b-day.i feel so mad and broken at the same time.
Welcome to adulthood where birthdays are crappy and nobody really cares.
You'll get used to it in a few years.
nope, I saying men who are lolicons is the very least I would do to them if it was up to me
if it was up to me I'd chop their dicks off and make them bleed to death (edgy, I know)
but honestly, if a guy is a pedophile he doesn't deserve relationships, or to even be around kids
probably, reminds me of my pedo ass ex>>213154
yes because liking naked cartoon little girls is a big difference between like actual naked little girls, are you retarded? most pedophiles who fap to loli are most likely fantasizing about children, its as dumb as saying "oh you are sexually attracted to anime characters with big boobs therefore you may or may not be attracted to big boobs in real life!!!"
you get turned on by naked little girls for a reason, and that reason being you're a pedo,whether they're cartoon or not, your preference in cartoons show what you're into
There is a pretty big difference yeah. You can call me retarded all you want but trying to say that anime and reality are equal just doesn't work.
I make pretty good college money drawing such characters as a hobby and get harassing anon messages like yours all the time. There's an awful lot of violent threats too. That seems to go along with the mental illness of being unable to distinguish between cartoons and reality.
Seek help. You seem like you're more likely to hurt someone than I am, and I produce the stuff that you're spitting mad about.
Oh you poor, innocent little pedophile!
I hope your death is long and painful. Go the fuck to hell.
27 isn't too old for anything. Don't think that you've missed your opportunity to follow your dreams.
You could start learning how to draw in your free time, for example. Its never too late for that.
Think about it like this, if someone told you you were told old to do something, and you believed them and gave up, you would be throwing away the next 50 years of your life over a much smaller delay.
We know the difference between cartoon characters and reality but when you fap to something that was literally made for pedophiles to fap to, which is naked little girls, then you're baffled and shocked when people dare think someone who faps to little girls naked is a pedophile
I have yet to see someone who is into loli that wasn't a pedophile, in fact many pedophiles use loli as an outlet, and in japan they had the idea that loli would help pedos cope and now the child molestation rate is highest it's ever been and you're SHOCKED that someone gets mad at people who want to molest little girls and promotes the thing that has been shown to lead to higher child molestation rates? kill yourself, you deserve getting harassed and violent threats, if you seriously can't decode just why in the world someone doesn't like some pervert who draws little girls naked for pedos to fap to, you should do the world a favor and kys
That's not what it's made for.
If you're going to draw anime or jrpg characters at all, 99.9% of subjects will technically be lolis. That seems like a nitpick, but the difference between a character like Yoko Littener and Konata Izumi (who is actually of age) is just a difference in proportions or the style.
It's very hard to get worked up over the morality of loli/shota art when just using Ctrl-T to adjust the eye size can take 5 years off a character for example.
The line between loli art and regular art is pretty arbitrary and unique to every individual too. I can get ripped for drawing which makes me more apathetic to the distinction. When I can get ripped for drawing Illya from F/SN but some RWBY porn gets a pass, it makes the whole anti-loli thing seem silly
It's made for people to masturbate, I don't dispute that, that's my goal. But it doesn't make them pedophiles that's where I take issue.
>And also, drawing an obvious child then just slapping on them that they're of age doesn't make it less gross or less obvious that you're a pedophile, idgaf about the art style,naked children that is catered for grown pedo men to fap to is still repulsive
I make it a point to not slap an "this character is 18+" on my work because it feels like I'm giving in to the bullies in that case.
It's ok if you think my art is gross and disgusting, but why take the extra step of harshly judging the people who do like it? Why not just leave it at "I don't like this" without making false statements about others?
They aren't children. They are cartoons. That's what makes it silly.
It's ok to just have an opinion on the art but it's dumb to bring that false moral element into it.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
>>213174>It's made for people to masturbate, I don't dispute that, that's my goal. But it doesn't make them pedophiles that's where I take issue.
yes apparantly nowadays fapping to naked children isn't pedophilia but because it's a cartoon it's okay despite there being proof that as loli increases so does child molestation, but totally not the same thing
>I make it a point to not slap an "this character is 18+" on my work because it feels like I'm giving in to the bullies in that case.
yes because pedophilia is one thing but lying is another kek
>It's ok if you think my art is gross and disgusting, but why take the extra step of harshly judging the people who do like it? Why not just leave it at "I don't like this" without making false statements about others?
maybe because people have traumatic experiences with child molestation and find the things that encourage it repulsive? what false statements are we making exactly? that people who fap to cartoon children naked are pedophiles because they are?
whats next, if men fap to male anime characters then claim to be straight it makes sense right because its a cartoon? how dumb do you think we are?>>213176
>Going a step beyond and threatening artists with death because you don't like a jpg
nope, if that "jpg" is of a naked little girl who was literally made for grown men to fap to, you deserve death threats, me and millions of other people would take some crazy psychopath who wants pedos to die over a pedophile in denial anyday
>Ditto for wanting to kill everyone who enjoys that kind of art.
and that "kind art" are photos of naked children in sexual situations, just like how tons of pedophiles in hollywood photograph naked children and slap the label art on it to make it legal, it's still naked children clearly made for the purpose of sexual reasons>>213177
again, are "straight" men who fap to naked anime men still straight? no? but according to you I can fantasize about sucking big anime titties and eating anime pussy and claim to be straight but its okay since its a cartoon correct? it doesn't matter if it's art or whatever, it's still made for the purpose of pleasing pedophiles no matter how much you claim anyone who thinks men fapping to naked cartoon little girls is a liar and spreading "false moral element"
fictional men can be atttractive when real men aren't bc that's it, they aren't real. they are written in a compelling way, we see them from all sides early on and no real life person will ever be like that.
i suggest you look into the phenomenon of compulsory heterosexuality bc it sounds like what you are going through. or if that's not it, maybe your relationship isn't that healthy and that's what's putting you off men. either way hang in there anon, i went through a similar thing albeit in my late teen years, it can be confusing as hell. no matter what side you end up on, it will all work out!
How is your argument any different than the early 2000s moral panic over Grand Theft Auto Vice City?
It matters very much that my drawings are just drawings, you can't just dismiss away the fact that anime is not real and then call me a pedophile for my drawings any more than you could call those kids car thieves for playing GTA
one is just based on fun video games
another is based on sexual fucking attraction
would you call a guy straight that faps to male anime characters and goes out of their way to see anime dicks but claims to be straight, call him straight just because "drawings are drawings" no? it's almost like he's sexually attracted to men whether they're drawings or not?http://funnyjunk.com/Lolis/funny-pictures/5828199/63
"A pedophile is sexually attracted to young children.
A lolicon is sexually attracted to depictions of young children."
so yes, lolicons are pedophiles, you're a pedophile, and creepy, there's a difference between animating a high speed chase vs fapping to naked little girls that are drawings
you are, by definition, a pedophile, any lolicon, is by definition, a pedophile
if lolicons and pedophiles aren't the same thing then explain why that lolicon translates to pedophile?
also explain why that the CSA rate in japan rose along with the lolicon popularity, it's almost as if sexualizing children, even if it's "just a cartoon"… hurts them?
>>213194>one is just based on fun video games>another is based on sexual fucking attraction
And both are based in fantasy. You still have to jump over this hurdle before you try to talk about anything else.
Are you a murderer for fantasizing about killing artists like me?
because one is a fun video game, and there is no correlation between gta and violence
are you going to tell me pretty much
"OH NO I'M ONLY ATTRACTED TO DRAWINGS OF NAKED LITTLE GIRLS IN SEXUAL SITUATIONS BUT TOTALLY NOT ATTRACTED TO THEM IN REAL LIFE I-I P-PROMISE!!!"
thats as dumb as saying "oh I only like big tits in anime I hate them in real life"
It's fucking retarded, you draw something you're sexually attracted as an ideal of attraction, just like how ancient artists would draw women they're sexually attracted to, most of the time if people are attracted to something in drawings, 99.9999999999999999% of the time it is what they're attracted to in real life so why does it apply to everyone except it magically doesn't apply to lolicons?
and yep, I fantasize about killing pedophiles, call me a murderer, but at least I'm not gonna go out and claim how I have 100% no murderous tendencies at all
Did you isolate the popularity of lolis as the only factor in CSA rate? How does it compare to countries where loli isn't popular?
Of course you didn't bother to research it at all, and just spout bullshit. We went down this road back in 2002 with Vice City.
But aside from that, guess what? As an artist, it's not my responsibility to worry about that anyway. It doesn't change if I draw a loli, Mohammed, or guro.
also, a lot of people who are really into GTA, assuming they don't do it just to pass time or hang out with friends or whatever, a lot of them would be up for a crazy car chase if they didn't get in trouble for it, ask around, if I go up to a GTA player and say "hey if you didn't get trouble and could act out GTA irl would you do it?" most of them would say yes, just like how most lolicons would rape little girls if they didnt get in trouble, but thats the thing, with pedo culture floating around thanks to trashy pedos like you who help in the normalization of pedophilia, pedophiles when they do get caught in the act, they can easily play the ~poor mentally ill man~ card, and get to therapy instead of having their asses raped by tyrone in prison, even if they do go to prison it's not for a long time, hell the guy who raped his adoptive daughter, got her pregnant, and slammed her in a mirror got 14 yrs, jared from subway got 1 year for each child he raped, if someone played out GTA irl, they would go to jail for life as well as having to pay massive fines, and some people who are into gta wouldn't even know where to start to a gta mission irl, where as pedophiles easily have access to children
>>213199>Did you isolate the popularity of lolis as the only factor in CSA rate?
yes because the popularity of lolis, drawings of child porn, and the rising CSA totes have NOTHING to do with each other
>But aside from that, guess what? As an artist, it's not my responsibility to worry about that anyway. It doesn't change if I draw a loli, Mohammed, or guro.
"I don't care if you call me a pedophile for sexualizing little girls and drawing them naked, and selling them to pedos, now look at the paragraphs I write playing victims when someone gives me what all pedophiles deserve!!!!"
Well, I won't call you a murderer, even if you embrace the label.
>thats as dumb as saying "oh I only like big tits in anime I hate them in real life
One of my favorite anime is about terrorism. I don't like terrorists in real life. I draw rape all the time, I'm literally drawing it right now, and I don't like raping people either. I can even draw furries and not want to fuck animals. It's not that hard for normal people to separate fantasy and reality.
It seems like you're not playing with a full deck of cards though, so which is why I suggested that you seek help.
>>213202>One of my favorite anime is about terrorism. I don't like terrorists in real life.
well no shit, it's an interesting plot, there's a difference between being interested in something vs finding little girls sexually attractive
>e. I draw rape all the time, I'm literally drawing it right now,
so then you have rape fantasies, and you are into the idea of acting out rape with a consenting partner, assuming you're drawing it because that's what you're into and not to cater to rapists
with rape fantasies, people can find a consenting partner to act it out with, thats fine, they're adults, however, lolicon centers around the idea of fantasizing about fucking little girls, which children can't consent and of course is disgusting traumatic, and everything else, people who have rape fantasies are into the idea of raping someone whether it be a consensual roleplay and some people into rape fantasies are into actual rape, it's the sad truth
now that we got that covered, no none-pedophilic people go around and saying "hey I wonder what it's like to fuck a little girl" no? whether it's fantasy or not it's pedophilia, because small children 100% cannot consent and any sexual act will 99% of the time damage them later in life
I am a victim of unwarranted harassment yes.This is a vent thread so that is on topic.
And I do care if I'm called a pedophile. Not specifically by you, since we've established that you're not well. But I'm concerned by that label towards artists like me that in general. Since Western artists don't have any place as open as Pixiv to post their works anymore thanks to the ignorance you and others like you perpetuate.
"I can even draw furries and not want to fuck animals"
thats because you cater to beastiality lovers/and or furries, but you may or may not want to fuck animals yourself, however there has been a fair share of furries fucking animals so wym
the way "animals" are depicted in drawings are very human like though so it would be easy to believe that furries just wanna fuck people in sexy furry costumes rather than actual animals, however, lolis, when they're depicted, they're depicted as actual children, naked children in sexual situations and people are getting turned on by that, and if you don't think thats pedophilia then its YOU that needs help, not me
>>213204>"I am a victim of unwarranted harassment yes.This is a vent thread so that is on topic."
and you deserve every second of it and more, children dont want to be sexualized, parents dont want sick fucks running around drawing little girls naked being molested (unless they're pedophiles themselves) no one wants that, the only people who want it are pedophiles and pedo enablers, so yes, you deserve to get harassed, vent all you want, but I will just keep telling you that you deserve it
> But I'm concerned by that label towards artists like me that in general. Since Western artists don't have any place as open as Pixiv to post their works anymore thanks to the ignorance you and others like you perpetuate.
oh no just why in the world would someone thinks someone who draws naked little girls, sometimes in sexual situations, pedophiles? they must be soooo ignorant huh
You keep using words like children and people to describe something that I made in Clip Studio Paint. No matter how many times you try to sneak that through, it won't fly.
Establish that anime=real first, then we maybe your other nonsense will be relevant.
anime children are still children dumbass, no they're not real life children, but they're clearly supposed to emulate children
it's like if someone drew timmy turner, is he not a child because he's a cartoon? no, cartoons like so are supposed to emulate real life, it's not about "sneaking it through"
if you find timmy turner sexually attractive, you are creepy, and a pedophile, I don't believe for a second that "OH IM JUST ATTRACTED TO ANIME CHILDREN BUT NOT CHILDREN IN REAL LIFE I PROMISE!!!!"
people develop cartoon crushes for a reason, and 100% of the time, those cartoon crushes will mimic what that person likes in real life
example, girl grows up having a crush on danny phantom, it is most likely she is attracted to guys like what danny phantom has (skinny,dark hair, blue eyes, etc)
if someone is SEXUALLY ATTRACTED TO A CARTOON OF A CHILD then it not only translates what they like in real life, but shows they have no shame in being fucking creepy, sexualizing children, as well as just being okay with them being attracted to a child even if its a cartoon, and trying to write it off as not pedophilia
"its okay to be sexually attracted to a child as long as if the child is a cartoon but that doesn't mean you're a pedophile"
you are sexually attracted to a child that is a cartoon, you are by definition, a pedophile, get over it and stop being in denial
Maybe they like bald men? A smile? Short men? Men with a sense of humor? A man with a tragic backstory?
Ah I see, you're the expert on cartoon crushes and have obviously studied vigorously on the link between humans and their attraction towards fictional characters.
Forgive me for my egregious error, my sincerest apologies.
Yes it is
Think of the reason WHY they're a cartoon crush, is because that cartoon has something they're attracted to
Some girls liked the skeleton because they had a tragic backstory or he was dark and edgy, just like how pedophiles are attracted to lolis because they like little girls, try again
Umm yes if you fantasize about getting gang banged then you fantasize about getting gang banged, maybe you're up for it irl maybe not
Lolicons fantasize about sex with little girls therefore they're pedophiles, what you are doing is just trying to completely dismiss it and say "THEYRE NO PEDOPHILE ITS JUST A FANTASY" as if they don't want to fuck kids, like how people who want to get gang banged
I wasn't the anon that made the comment, sorry. I merely agreed with them. Although I do not agree they should have written 100% of the time as nothing is truly a perfect 100 unless you interview every single person that lives on this planet.
Anime is technically real. It is a thing that exists, it is a thing people make – the concepts, characters etc. are not however.
They may not be real but there is attraction for a reason, people are sexually attracted to lolis because they're little girls, therefore they're pedophiles
Anime and reality are heavily intertwined, hence cosplay has become a huge part of peoples sex life, hence cosplay porn, people rping as anime characters sexually, so yes, it translates into real life>>213226
Have you ever seen a loli before? Theres a difference between just short women and characters that are clearly drawn to be 10 and under, completely flat chest, no hips, chubby arms, some of these "loli" drawings I've seen are actual toddlers, one loli drawing even showed a fucking fetus with a vibrator on it, they look nothing like grown women, no matter how child like a woman looks no child-like adult will ever look under 10 unless they have a disorder like mia petite
>>213224>No one is saying anime is real Mr.Pedo, they're saying being attracted to little girls and wanting to fuck children is pedophilia, if these people weren't pedophiles at all then they wouldn't be sexually attracted to children in any concept,
Anime girls are not even in the same dimension of children in concept. That's why the label is wrong.
I draw mostly women but I still consider myself straight. I can separate reality from fiction just fine.
But anime girls are based off of real girls. It is common knowledge that animation is the Illusion of life, anime girl designs don't just appear out of thin air – they're based off of real girls and traits the artist likes themselves or what they know their fans will enjoy or what's popular nowadays.>>213228
Are we talking about anime girls in general or lolis because I thought this was a discussion of pedophilia brought on by an anon's insatiable desire to draw lolis with the notion that it is alright because it is "fantasy".
Wow theyre not in the same dimension so men can fantsize about molesting little girls in anime world -despite the fact a lot of hentaifantasies translate to real life and people want anime to be real life a lot- but its okay because magically theyre 100% not a pedophile in real life
>I draw "women" but i consider myself straight
Like I said, you cater to pedophiles who want to fuck little girls. You're equally as repulsive and shouldn't be allowed around children.
All fantasy has it's roots in real life if you stetch far enough. The stretch from a fantasy anime girl to a real one is way too far for the pedophila label.
And yes it's alright because it's fantasy that's way out of bounds from pedophila.
"Japanese slang for younger girls with abnormally large breasts for their age, often featured in lolicon."
oh so it's still little girls, just with big boobs, so it's still pedophilia and sexualizing little girls>>213230
exactly, no one who is mentally stable and ~totally not a pedophile~ wakes up one day and says "hey I'm going to look at naked cartoon girls and fantasize about them and fap to them but it's okay because it's a cartoon"
as you said, they don't come from nowhere, just like no one wakes up and says "hey I wanna watch animes about rape and fap to them"
So fantasizing about little girls naked and raping them ISN'T pedophilia because it is "fantasy" and not happening right at that very moment?
That's what you're saying, you know that right?
"All fantasy has it's roots in real life if you stetch far enough. The stretch from a fantasy anime girl to a real one is way too far for the pedophila label."
HA so fapping to little girls is okay if it's anime right?
anime is a fucking porn section for fucks sake, there is an industry made to translate it into real life with cosplay, makeup, plastic surgery, people trying to be as "anime-esque" as possible, so no, it's not some crazy huge stretch that people who want to fuck anime children most likely want to fuck children in real life to, why else would someone want to fuck anime children? go on, I'll wait
The amount of translation you would have to do to translate loli into real life would also destroy all the a lot of other media in the process.
Lolis are a whole graphically represented dimension further away from real life than videogames. You can't reach that far with your pedophile label without catching the bulk of offensive media material in your thoughtcrime net.
I assumed you have a reasonably bounded definition of pedophila. I'm starting to see that may be a mistake.
If I drew a dot on a page and labeled it "loli" would you consider that pedophila? If no,then you are capable of setting reasonable boundaries, so don't pretend to be unable to here.
>>213239>If I drew a dot on a page and labeled it "loli" would you consider that pedophila? If no,then you are capable of setting reasonable boundaries, so don't pretend to be unable to here
No, but you're drawing naked little girls, cartoon or not, people calling you a pedophile for fapping to naked little girls who are cartoon is completely different than calling a dot on a page loli, people are calling you a pedophile because you're sexually attracted to fucking little girls, which is the very definition of pedophilia
also, I'm still waiting, why would someone be attracted to anime children but magically aren't attracted to children irl?
That was not what I was addressing. I was merely countering the use of the word fantasy.
>And yes it's alright because it's fantasy that's way out of bounds from pedophila.
I said nothing about lolitas.
So answer me again, is everything alright if it is seen in a fantastical light? If someone fantasizes about a young person in that way, it's alright, isn't it? I mean, it's just fantasy right? How about writing a story in which your self insert is raping children to which you explicitly described as children? That's fictional right? Not pedophilia? You wouldn't be concerned reading such a thing would you?
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If you can say no, then you are capable of distinguishing the difference between a drawing and a real object, despite whatever concept I try to attach to it.
Your inability to do so with regular loli drawings is just because you find the art distasteful and you want to use morality to censor it.
Yeah fucking moral fags how they don't want to see children get sexualized which has been shown to hurt them and encourage pedophilic behavior
i will ask, for the 3rd or 4th time, why would someone be sexually attracted to a cartoon of a naked child?
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Why do degenerates like blaming people's morality when people draw a line between what is healthy and unhealthy?
Have you ever thought that people find your fetish disgusting because it harms people directly or indirectly and it's not healthy for you, the people you may engage with and society, not because people are prude or moralists?
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what is happening
this is the vent thread
Obviously this paedo-enabler needed to vent their sadness at choosing to do something that most people find reprehensible.
I don’t personally think that lolicon makes you a paedo, but it does bring up the huge question of why the fuck you would ever WANT to draw shit like that… so it certainly points to appropriate boundary issues and/or the need to be a massive edgelord.
Paedo-anon, do you get pleasure out of satisfying incel neckbeards or something? Or do you personally enjoy the aesthetics of “fantasy cartoon” rape of children?
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Of course. I would do with those opinions what I do with most opinions.
However, usually just calling my art disgusting isn't enough for the unbalanced. This whole conversation started with the idea that I should be murdered over a drawing. That obviously brings a new element into the discussion since I'm essentially dealing with an aniconic Jihadist who isn't satisfied with just disliking my thing.
But I should've said "morality" since I didn't mean to imply that anon had any sense of right or wrong. That kind of goes out the window when you want to kill or harrass someone over art.
That argument has already been used everywhere in every era on every offensive subject since Columbine and before. Artists are always absolved of that blame eventually.
Until history repeats itself on this issue, I'll just loudly protest the idea that I deserve to be a victim of violence.
your "art" is naked children
and it's purely for sexual reasons, it's not like people print it then hang it up or whatever, people who are into loli, are in it for sexual reasons, you are drawing naked children, for sexual reasons and then claiming it's not pedophilia because fantasizing about fucking little girls is different between ACTUALLY fucking little girls as if they both weren't repulsive and then act like you're some victim when people think it's gross?
CSA victims, find it fucking repulsive
children don't want some creep drawing pics of them naked
parents, the good ones at least don't want their kids to be sexualized, no one fucking likes that shit, any normal person thinks it's repulsive except for pedophiles and pedophile enablers
what point are you making exactly?
It's already been shown that as the popularity of loli rises, so does the child molestation rate
not just in japan, but there was even loli/ddlg/furry artist who was arrested for molesting his little sister, you think the fact he drew little girls being molested for "fantasy" reasons and him actually going on to molest his sister have absolutely nothing to do with each other?
even on 4chin. where this shit is popular, there are literal threads where guys brag about molesting a younger family member or whatever, you think it has NOTHING to do with each other that people who fap to drawings of little girls naked end up actually being attracted to fucking children? right
we are not talking about the countries, we are talking about japan
do you seriously believe the fact that CSA in japan is highest it's ever been ever since the sexualization of children and loli has been there, has NOTHING to do with each other? quit making excuses
Without peer reviewed data, your conclusion is just an assumption. I'm sorry if you consider that to be an excuse.
The fact that you don't even want to consider other countries as a control statistics shows that you're not interested in finding out if loli actually causes CSA. You have your conclusion already and you just want it accepted.
That's not good enough to tell an artist they shouldn't draw something, sorry.
It doesn't matter what the base rate is, you're interested in comparing the change in rate. You have to use other countries to even see if Japan's CSA rose at statistically relevant greater rate. Then you need to do a study inside Japan and isolate loli. It's a lot of hard work, but that's the burden you take on by making the affirmative claim that
>It's already been shown that as the popularity of loli rises, so does the child molestation rate.
The obvious you say I'm denying is just as empirically verified as the obvious evils of rock music, violent movies and violent games. Each one was obviously bad in its own decade of increased popularity, and we all laugh at the ignorance of those panicked "moral" warnings in hindsight today.
okay, then why else would japans child molestation rate skyrocket and it just "happens" to be a coincidence that sexualization of children there happens to
>The obvious you say I'm denying is just as empirically verified as the obvious evils of rock music, violent movies and violent games. Each one was obviously bad in its own decade of increased popularity, and we all laugh at the ignorance of those panicked "moral" warnings in hindsight today.
people can like rock music, video games and horror movies without being evil, a lot of the time people do it for entertainment purposes, people find horror movies interesting and decode killers, rock music isn't really that evil all the time just loud, with video games, again, it is for entertainment reasons
however, people draw naked little girls for SEXUAL reasons, are you gonna tell me that people just draw them because they find naked little girls interesting to look at?? No, it won't be just some silly little thing we all laugh at the crazy paranoid fucks daring to think people who fap to drawings of naked little girls, are pedophiles
If those violent movies and video games were made for people to fap to, then you'd have a point, people like those things because they find the stories interesting and like the action of it, people like looking at drawings of naked little girls because they're pedophiles
also what exactly are you trying to prove? if you're trying to completely deny the fact people fantasize about fucking cartoon children, which makes them pedophiles, then you're wrong, sexual attraction is very different then just being interested in a horror film
tomb raider, for example, do you really think the hoards of people fapping over lara croft totally wouldn't be attracted to a woman that looked like her irl because it's just a fantasy? you're an idiot
also, if it is "just a fantasy"
out of all the things people can roleplay/fantasize about, in video games it includes action packed adventures of being in the mafia, going on high speed chases, becoming rich pimps, etc, out of anything, these people just "happen" to fantasize about fucking children in the anime world but it totally doesn't make them a pedophile? miss me with that bullshit
yes because clearly fucking scholars are going to be worried about if drawings of naked little girls becoming popular, and the rate of child molestation rising in japan, if they have anything to do with each otherhttps://www.quora.com/Why-is-pedophilia-common-in-Japanhttps://thesixfootbonsai.com/2016/12/23/no-ordinary-pedophile-japans-idolization-of-children/
are you going to convince me something that was literally made for pedophiles isn't pedophilic? you're insane
That's exactly what I would expect scholars would be interested in. More importantly, if a there is no data available to you, what is the source of your confidence that this is true?
>It's already been shown that as the popularity of loli rises, so does the child molestation rate.
I could just as easily tie the increase in CSA to a rise in right wing populism and my conclusion would be just as valid as yours–which is not valid enough for anyone to be expected to change their behavior.
you don't need 10 pages of scientific evidence to prove that people who fap to drawings of naked little girls are pedophiles
> could just as easily tie the increase in CSA to a rise in right wing populism
okay, but if the child molestation rate was low, the right wing populism rised like child molestation maybe you'd have a point, the thing is right wing and child molestation aren't related, one has to do with sexual attraction and sexual acts vs politics, with loli vs csa rate it's children being sexualized vs the child molestation rate rising, so yes, it does relate and yes lolicons are pedophiles
You can't even produce one sentence of proof, which should be pretty easy if everything is so obvious.
Or maybe you just have an opinion on loli art and you think pretending to have evidence that ties it to real CSA will make your voice louder.
Okay, then you provide proof that people can be attracted to little girls in cartoons but magically not in real life, there is none, because scientists aren't going to go into in dept research over fucking neckbeard pedo porn, but that doesn't make it untrue
example, if a mall starts turning up the temperature colder, and thus more people start buying warm drinks, then it's safe to assume that cold temperatures make people want to eat or drink warm things, correct?
now apply this to loli, now the loli is rising, which are depictions of child porn and children in sexual acts, it will enable pedophile tendencies, and with that you've seen the CSA rate rise, it will be safe to assume that loli has a lot to do with the CSA rate rising, and then idiots like you who are pedos in denial come in screaming how you have no proof there it's 100% not true at all and lolicons aren't pedophiles etc
>Or maybe you just have an opinion on loli art and you think pretending to have evidence that ties it to real CSA will make your voice louder
yes, my "opinion" on loli art, aka an opinion shared by anyone who isn't a pedo or pedo enabler, it should tell you something if the only people who are okay with loli are pedophiles and their enablers.
Sorry that I have the audacity to ask you to back up your affirmative claim that loli and CSA are statically linked with actual fucking statistics.
>yes, my "opinion" on loli art, aka an opinion shared by anyone who isn't a pedo or pedo enabler, it should tell you something if the only people who are okay with loli are pedophiles and their enablers.
At least you stopped pretending that your position is rooted in anything but your own worthless circular opinion.
>>213331>Sorry that I have the audacity to ask you to back up your affirmative claim that loli and CSA are statically linked with actual fucking statistics.
no, you're a dumbass who acts like something that is obviously connected needs fucking scientific novels about how they're connected and not just see "ooo in japan, now that popularity of loli increased, so does CSA, but it has nothing to do with each other"
>At least you stopped pretending that your position is rooted in anything but your own worthless circular opinion.
yeah fuck me how dare I think children shouldn't get sexualized, drawn naked, then shown to pedophiles
>your own worthless circular opinion.
yep, because everyone except for me is A-OK with little girls being drawn naked in sexual situations and sold to pedophiles, but it's okay because it's a drawing right? what's next, are child molestation novels that are made for pedos to read and fap to okay since its "just fantasy", right?
FOR THE LOVE OF FUCK, PLEASE ACTUALLY READ MY POST PROPERLY, I AM NOT CONDONING HARMING CHILDREN.
A lot of people seem to think this, and I hate to say but he might -kind- of be right? I personally like anime females but am not bi(I don't like loli) so I kind of get it? Also, that's literally what furry is. All furries aren't into bestiality, but they like a drawn, humanoid form of it.
Still, regardless of whether -some- people don't like real life children, people who do also like drawn shit, which is why it's a problem. All lolicons might not like real children, but all pedos like lolicon.
Like sure, accepting that someone likes loli but doesn't like real children is fine, but that doesn't change the fact that actual pedos use it and feel it's normalized/justified.
Now please don't everyone fucking jump off the handle at me, I'm just trying to say that like other fetishes, especially drawing related, there's always a possibility that it does not translate into real life, and we do need to acknowledge that. But we do not need to let people continue pursuing their fetish to create openings for real people to get hurt.
>>213339>They literally are though, do you live under a rock?
but the people who read them are still pedophiles, what pedo anon is saying that lolicons aren't pedophiles yet they literally are, whether these hypothetical novels actually exist or not, I don't know and I don't want to know, but this anon is saying that people who have pedophilic fantasies aren't pedophiles because its a fantasy, when it's the literal definition of pedophile
all pedophiles have pedophilic fantasies, thats what makes them pedophiles
anyway, I think it's disgusting and should be illegal because it feeds peoples pedophilic tendencies and/or makes their desire for children grow even stronger if it hadn't before, thus most likely, they are going to commit an act of pedophilia at a given chance
>>213338> I personally like anime females but am not bi
I mean do you like to look at them or do you go out of your way to buy naked anime lesbian porn, then fap and fantasize about sucking anime titties and stuff
>, that's literally what furry is. All furries aren't into bestiality, but they like a drawn, humanoid form of it.
thats why its believable when a furry says they arent into beastiality, where as lolis are drawn as literal children, some are even toddlers
> All lolicons might not like real children, but all pedos like lolicon.
okay so let me put it this way, anyone who is sexually attracted to lolis, are pedophiles, most people who like lolis, are pedophiles
anyway, why would someone be attracted to naked anime children anyway? as the other anon said, these attractions don't appear out of thin air, people who "100% aren't pedophiles at all" don't go and look at naked anime children and think it's hot
>I'm just trying to say that like other fetishes, especially drawing related, there's always a possibility that it does not translate into real life, and we do need to acknowledge that
okay, so exactly, why is someone going to be sexually attracted to a drawing and 100% not into it in real life, there's furry conventions for a reason, because furrys, while they may not want to fuck animals, they want to fuck animal costume people or whatever, lolis are shown as literal children, and literal children exist as well as the growing CSA problem and a lot of lolicons are pedophiles, if not all
Also, I'd like to ad, no one only has fantasies with the intent to just fap to it for the rest of their life, a lot of the "fantasy anime" are cosplayed and roleplayed for a reason, with furries, mermaid, witch animes, or whatever the fuck people are into, people can just simply wear a costume and get some props and act out the fantasy, lolicon is different because with lolicon… it's actual fucking children, it's not like someone can just cosplay as a loli unless they have some mia petite level condition, or unless they're an actual fucking child, so it would be child molestation, which is why loli is different from any other anime fetish
Loli-drawing anon, I'm not interested in taking part in the loli/cp debate.we could just go to /a/ for that
However please remember to keep checking on whether you feel it's worth for you to draw what you do. I used to draw lewd commissions too and originally stopped drawing flat characters because I didn't want to fall foul of obscenity laws or risk it ever becoming a problem in my real life. I probably wouldn't be convinced if a teacher was found to draw flat characters and said they weren't actually a pedophile, so by that logic it made sense to just avoid ever being in that position myself. Even of I felt that I wasn't ethically doing anytime wrong, it wasn't worth the risk. My frequent fans that used to compliment my work dropped me instantly. I later did the same for violent commissions. Now I'm not used to seeing that art anymore, I'm uncomfortable seeing it altogether and wouldn't want to draw that stuff anymore. I still feel like drawings are an ethical gray area, but it's not worth defending the pedophiles hiding in that gray.
Of course you have your own reasons for needing money and how you can actually make it, but it's worth thinking about.
That's what I meant, I like them sexually.
I feel like a lot of lolicon's attracting has more to do with anime and other weird issues than it does being attracted to literal kids. I also think that anime porn in general does really messed up things to people.
Also, I've stumbled upon loli-porn and while some of it is fucking gross 'dirty old man' shit, some of it is tame, just like standard anime porn, so it's probably hard to draw the line.
I'd be interested in hearing what you'd like to say about DDLG then as well tbh.>>213345>no one only has fantasies with the intent to just fap to it for the rest of their life
Okay, I'm convinced you're just arguing for the sake of it at this point because that is definitely not true at all. I am not going to share but some of the things I read and get off to are really messed up and I would NOT want to experience or make others experience them in real life.
it's not like someone can just cosplay as a loli unless they have some mia petite level condition
It's literally called DDLG or ageplay. Plus roleplay has nothing to do with being attracted to real children. Pedos literally are attracted to children's bodies,
>>213347>That's what I meant, I like them sexually.
then you are not straight, you are attracted to the female form, and therefore, not straight
>I feel like a lot of lolicon's attracting has more to do with anime and other weird issues than it does being attracted to literal kids.
what so are people going to go and be sexually attracted to drawings of kids just because they like anime or whatever? wanting to fuck female anime characters, like legit getting hard or wet over the idea of having intercourse with the characters
>Also, I've stumbled upon loli-porn and while some of it is fucking gross 'dirty old man' shit, some of it is tame
I think there should be a line drawn when people draw naked little kids for sexual reasons.
>Okay, I'm convinced you're just arguing for the sake of it at this point because that is definitely not true at all. I am not going to share but some of the things I read and get off to are really messed up and I would NOT want to experience or make others experience them in real life.
then you aren't actually attracted to them if you wouldn't do it in real life, what are you some edge lord who faps to gore thinking they're some edgy dark mysterious person when in reality you're only doing it for other than sexual reasons
if you are not willing to do it in real life or enjoy it in real life, then you aren't actually into it
>>213348>t's literally called DDLG or ageplay.
yes, child molestation roleplay, but I'm saying no grown person can mimic a literal childs body
> Plus roleplay has nothing to do with being attracted to real children.
it is if you're getting off on your partner acting like a child
>Pedos literally are attracted to children's bodies,
so… lolicons, keep in mind ddlg and lolicons are heavily intertwined, in fact a lot of ddlgers/ageplayers will post loli on their blogs, ageplay literally means acting like a child in a sexual situation (unless it's for age regression therapy) and lolis, well they're actual children being drawn naked, so of course they're heavily intertwined, they're both communities of pedophiles who are slowly trying to normalize pedophilia
>>213352>Are you a fucking moron? Holy shit you are worse than lolicon-anon. Have you literally never heard of people who get off to stuff in only fantasy, like dudes who want to chop off their dicks?
yes, those are pretentious edgelords, if you do not want to do it in real life, then you aren't actually up for it, I use to be one myself, even came to the idea of some fucked up things, and yet here I am, since I actually know the difference between sexual attraction vs just getting off on the idea of being an edgelord and then assume anyone who thinks if you aren't gonna do it in real life then you don't actually want it, is a troll
Imagine being so disgusting you think a pedophile is better than someone who knows that if you aren't up for a fantasy irl then you probably aren't even into the fantasy in the first place, it's a psychology thing
not even that anon, but man you are dense as fuck, you sound like the edgelord here, what the fuck.
"ANYONE WHO HAS A FETISH BETTER ACT IT OUT 100% OR GTFO POSERS!"
you know people who get off to tentacle porn, if they're not fucking octopuses, they aren't actually getting off to it.
do you have like high-level autism?
>>213355>you know people who get off to tentacle porn, if they're not fucking octopuses, they aren't actually getting off to it.
nope, but unless they're up for a simulation of tentacles, like what they do in theatre, then they're not actually into it, say what you want, I actually know psychology
also most people like tentacles for the bondage part of it, rather than an actual octopus
>>213360>i actually know psychology
this is better than the previous argument, anon.
holy shit i am dying
the human mind is a complicated thing, sometimes people will like something for aesthetic reasons and then confuse the emotion for sexual attraction
IE I bet the "I LOVE ANIME TIDDIES BUT IM A STR8 GRL" anon, was only attracted to anime women aesthetically rather than sexually, if they were attracted to them sexually then they would want to fuck women in real life
no but the irony is that you are using the same logic that >>213338
used. you can't say that people who like lolicon but don't harm children are pedos if you say that people who like fetishes don't actually like them if they don't do it in real life, what are you on?
If you are sexually attracted to drawings of naked children, assuming you're aren't confusing it for sexual attraction then you are a pedophile
if you are aesthetically attracted to loli for whatever reason then you're just disgusting, it's the emotions that people have trouble making distinctions between, but to be safe, I will continue to defend all lolicons are pedophiles because as I said, some people who do have aesthetic attractions can sometimes, in rare cases act on them,IE never allow lolicons are children
>>213350>then you are not straight, you are attracted to the female form, and therefore, not straight
You can't say that and:
>then you aren't actually attracted to them if you wouldn't do it in real life
Also, this invalidates your point that people who like looking at loli are pedos if they don't act it out.
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I can't be the only one who doesn't give a shit about this trash and wants to see more anons venting about their life troubles again.
no shit, but >>213376
is literally claiming that EVERY OTHER FETISH IN THE WORLD needs to be acted out to be sexual or it's not, but pedo is the exception somehow. even if all lolicon are pedos, anon's argument is weak as fuck.
re-read my post.>, but pedo is the exception somehow. even if all lolicon are pedos, anon's argument is weak as fuck.
which you said >>213350>then you aren't actually attracted to them if you wouldn't do it in real life
god, you are so pretentious and think you are confusing people with your ~vast knowledge~ when you are clearly just trying to defend your point from all sides, even though you end up making contradictory statements that end up invalidating it. you're pathetic.
we get that you hate pedos, that's great, everyone should. we get that you wantairing on the side of caution with lolicons, that's great, no one wants children to get hurt.
your poor attempts to explain your stance on this with psychology are the problem. you don't sound smart or anything, you just sound pathetic. say your opinion and leave.
I never claimed to be part of the psychological community, in fact I actually don't want anything to do with pedo empathizers
>this stigma against them actually causes them to not seek help and then harm children right? wtf is wrong with you?
I think all pedos should either be killed or in a facility far far away from anyone or anything, no matter how much they can pretend how they will never hurt kids, a lot of the time they will snap, and you never know when that is, the best thing to do is drown them all or keep them in their own little prison island far away from everyone, i dont care if the stigma hurts their feelings, if anything it just makes them more likely to play victim when they do molest kids
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>mfw the slightly amusing argument passed it's sweet spot into pure cringe and now makes me feel like i'm losing brain cells.
yes, how autistic, point out you don't get to pick and choose who replies and who doesn't
also sage your shit
I'm not>>213412>"no on cares, go home">"unless it was you who I'm replying to, then just ignore it instead of going out of your way to tell me how you don't care, if it was you then don't make replies and expect me not to reply just because it makes you feel better, you don't get your cake and eat it">"OMG UR SO AUTISTIC">yes because telling people they can't pick and choose who replies and who doesn't is autistic>"LITERALLY NO ONE WAS SAYING THAT YOU DERAILING AUTISTIC!!!"
also, how tf am I derailing simply for replying, don't like derailing? simple, don't reply to me and I won't reply back, as I said, you don't magically get the entitlement to derail and I don't
Oh my god. I am not that anon (believe it or not) but you are becoming unbearable with your need to reply to trolls. Why not take your own advice? Get the chip off your shoulder, and while you're at it, you should consider that while sage doesn't 'bump' a thread it doesn't stop it from being derailed.
I'm only commenting this because I am abandoning the mess you guys made.
so both of you just "happen" to be replying within the same minute, sprouting out the same bullshit, both just happens to be unsaging? right
>Why not take your own advice?
because I'm not the one telling people not to reply and to go home, then complaining when they reply, I simply know if I don't want people to reply then I won't reply, and I never claimed not to want people not to reply, you wouldn't text someone if you didn't want to talk to them right?
>sage doesn't 'bump' a thread it doesn't stop it from being derailed.
where did I claim sage stopped threads from being derailed? oh right, nowhere, but whos the one complaining about derailing while adding to the derailing, it's like rolling in dog shit then crying that it stinks
>why are you preaching at them to sage - this is /pt/ nobody fucking cares
actually a lot of people care about saging on each board, newfag, your cover is nice though, did you and this ~totally different person~ happen to reply at the same time to?