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>>1897368Discuss art and related topics such as:
-Talk about Art Youtubers
-Ask about art supplies
-Discuss trashy art trends
-Instagram bullshit
-Art theft!
-General Art Bullshit
-Fandom and Shipping Discourse
-AI generated art
-do not post your art to be reviewed here use the designated m thread
SCREENCAP EVERYTHING!
WRITE SAGE IN THE E-MAIL FIELD OF YOUR COMMENTS!
Articles about useful resources for improving one's art:
https://hubpages.com/art/how-to-draw-learnhttps://sites.google.com/site/ourwici/https://www.alexhays.com/loomis/Tried and true books on perspective, anatomy for artists, etc:
1. Perspective Made Easy by Ernest R. Norling
2. How to Draw by Scott Robertson
3. Framed Ink by Marcos Mateu-Mestre
4. Figure Drawing by Andrew Loomis
5. The Atlas of Human Anatomy and Surgery JM Bougery
6. Drawing the Head and Hands by Andrew Loomis
7. Figure Drawing by Michael Hampton
8. Force by Michael Mattesi
9. How to Render by Scott Robertson
10. Color and Light by James Gurney
11. The Skillful Huntsman by Scott Robertson/Mike Yamada/Khang Le/Felix
Yoon
>useful youtube channelshttps://www.youtube.com/@mangamaterialsyoutube9454https://www.youtube.com/@hidechannel2>where to find arthttps://www.wikiart.org/eshttps://artvee.com/>other useful siteshttps://film-grab.com/https://www.canva.com/colors/color-palettes/https://line-of-action.com/practice-tools/figure-drawinghttps://color.adobe.com/es/create/color-wheelpainting :Portrait of Grand Princesses by Christina Robertson
MANY OF THESE BOOKS ARE AVAILABLE AS FREE PDF FILES ONLINE, GOOGLE AROUND.
also check e-hentai and billibilli No. 1922925
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>>1921766Continuing what other nonnas said, vintage art is generally really lively. May Gibbs (picrel) is another good example imo, it's a bit subtle but very expressive
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>>1922925I love May Gibbs so much
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>>1922977Her work is so gorgeous, I wish she was more well known outside of this quasi-island. Also just generally wholesome, her work is a lot like Beatrix Potter's as it just exudes her love of NSW botany and fauna.
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>>1923020I prefeer her to be honest. The kewpie proportions are a bit jarring and weird.
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>>1923023AYRT yeah I get it, kek, they are supposed to be babies but it's a bit of a aquired taste.
Also Cicely Mary Barker! I love her work so much I used to have all her flower fairies books. Rene Cloke and Shirley Barber are close faves too (picrel used to be my favourite book growing up)
No. 1923132
>>1923005No way is that actually him? Lol. He does have more hair than I expected him to I guess
>>1922925This is really cute
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>>1923005Imagine being a pickme for this individual… gross!
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Hey did we ever got to know if the dad fucking was real or just a ploy to get more sales?
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How do you properly study anatomy? I feel so retarded that i still cant properly understand how the torso connects to the pelvis.
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>>1923196What do you have trouble with? Try studying Morpho or Anatomy for Sculptors if you need more detail on how things connect exactly. Morpho is a good start because there is very little text and if you copy all the drawings that include areas you're bat at you will develop more of a feel for it. Afterwards you can apply what you learned to photos by mapping out the skeleton and bigger shapes of the muscles
No. 1923205
>>1923188yeah deadspacedog, i remember a comic of her saying they actually meet up, beyond that and taking feet pics to support one of angs gofundme a few months ago she hasnt talked much about her, the last direct thing she said about the situation was a inconspicuous "hey im sad about a friend so idk if ill be posting much".
Last time she was talked in here some anons said it might be a null person? but nothing came from that and idk it stills boggles me that either the dad fucking is real and shes pretty confident that no one would ever dox her (even tough she claims that not only his dad had a semi successfull webcomic but he also has connections on the italian comic scene) or she was insane enough to make a whole persona of that.
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>>1923005Scrote fans coping cause you know if it was a leftist they'd be pointing out how much of soyboy he looks like
No. 1923311
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My friends insist analogue horror is art so i guess i will post it here. The mandela catalogue creator got outed as a tranny pedo who skinwalks teen girls. There was a google doc but i think it got taken down.
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>>1923311Absolutely insane
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>be beloved artist with a bright future and tons of loving fans
>throw it all in the trash for your AGP tranny pedos fantasies
why are moids like this
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>>1923344yeah, here's the call out doc
https://archive.is/MF0vQ although its not working for me
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>nuke account
>comeback again in another account with the exact same style
why the fuck do japanese artists do this
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>>1923396it makes no sense though they didnt draw nsfw or even lewd work, it was just fanart. It's so weird to me.
No. 1923570
>>1922914Yes also art history in college skips over the 1800’s to golden age illustration to focus on the 1950’s to now. Sadly there are a lot of lost artists and techniques.
>>1923006>Gru Whur are de gorls
No. 1926608
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People are finally turning on the ugly he/they pseudoanime twitter art style
No. 1926624
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>>1926608isn't it iniro/eskbl (picrel) + yvotoro?
No. 1926721
>>1926608I’d argue it’s the same affect as jelly style. Who knows how it started. Current art trends are memetic art because of social media. I don’t care for either but beginner artists usually start with anime as their foundation and this looks like a mutation of it.
>>1926620Same.
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>>1926608i love that neither of these whiners can draw themselves. it's always some low tier "artist" crying about other people having fun
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>>1926710even tv animation has this homogenized cutesy blob look
No. 1927229
>>1926986>>1927211Kek, right? It'snot even hostile out of context it's just "where did this come from?"
I've seen so many retarded infights recently, I sure hope it's not from the recently 18 year old 2006ers
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>>1926608You mean the Wallace wells art style lmao.
No. 1927557
>>1926710Your personal hate for gendies has nothing to do with style. Like
>>1927210 this type of art has always, always been around.
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Got this in my feed; I don’t follow this person. Sure, the art is somewhat similar, but this art style is pretty generic IMO.
No. 1927824
>>1927815This chibi style is so popular for the moe lovers in Japan. The hell are they talking about? They are different characters, the person didn't even include time stamps or an @, and if the characters are going to look like the characters from the same serious regardless because
they are from the same series. What is this, Genshit?
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What are your goals with art? i want to make a game
No. 1928752
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Is it possible to get worse at art or am i overthinking?
No. 1928755
>>1928701Fantroll from visual novel spin off of fancomic, unfortunately, so he never ever gain some recognition beyond pathetic wet cat memes.
>>1928752Artistic skills bound to muscle memory and in general takes years to polish, if you neglect repetitions you will eventually get worse results. Some anons already complained about skill recession in previous threads.
No. 1929104
Oops I messed up what I was writing earlier but the gist is there.
>>1929054In France graphic novels are extremely popular, domestic and foreign. I read a news article from this year that 1 out of 4 books sold in France is a graphic novel, and historical-biographical is the highest selling genre (ignoring manga) because they reach the widest audience. It got me thinking that yes, outside of kid books and manga in America the most significant graphic novels that sell here are biography/historiy-ish titles like Persepolis, My Friend Dahmer, and Maus. Or artists have some type of newspaper/magazine relationship like Adrian Tomine.
No. 1929190
>>1924335it’s null backdoorho or some variation of that spelling. Her SFW/main is polyglotplatypus on Tumblr and she’s a degenerate white woman living in France obsessed with dark-skinned
victims of female genital mutilation.
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>>1929190>professional animatorno way the bar is so low
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what did she mean by this? she deleted the tweet by the way.
No. 1929796
>>1929763lmao this is just an unfortunate translation because
拉黑人 = blocking/blacklisting sb
黑人 = black people
No. 1929828
>>1929763im so tempted to make a thread on our Chinese schizo pedo cow but i know most nonnas dont give a shit about her ramblings.shes been tweeting more and more about a group criticizing her art and laughing at her i dont think she means us so it seems shes a cow even there.
could be related to weibo users it seems like she also has a fued with a artist shes working alongside on a project kek
No. 1929912
>>1929796Thank you for explaining the translation
nonnie.
>>1929828I don't find her milky enough to make a thread for her, plus only about two or three nonnas are interested in her. On the other hand I really like her drawings, but it's still entertaining to see how she descends into madness. Not funny or depressing, just entertaining.
No. 1929931
>>1929929As someone who has done bother SFW and NSFW on separate accounts, the only way porn commissions would be coming your way this frequently would be if you are also posting porn. I've never, ever had someone approach my different name SFW account about porn requests in the last decade. What are you drawing that is attracting them?
I honestly don't believe this.
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>>1929301>>1929195Sorry I was phone posting so I didn't post caps. Here are some comparisons from an older mention on Kiwifarms. Black and white are from deadspacedog and the left is from her account, null backdoorho. There's more discussion in the Obscure Laughingstocks thread if you search "deadspacedog." You can find out null_backdoorho/deadspacedog is actually a white woman (TiF) from France from her similar art style on her main tumblr, polyglotplatypus. The biggest connection to deadspacedog is through similar art style (to which she made a piss poor effort to draw differently for her incest dad fiction, but it's still recognizable). Last time I checked a year ago, she was obsessively drawing stomach churning fetish porn of her south asian lesbian FGM
victim OC (Robin, I think?) and serial killers sewing up the vaginas of women. I'm not going through her twitter to find and post that.
>>1929294Yes, several times. It was me bringing her up last time.
>>1929238It's unreal how no one has called her out for it, considering a large size of her following are leftie trannies but they sing nothing but praise for her. I can't be surprised, no lefty on Twitter actually cares about female oppression, let alone for women in the MENASA region.
>>1929288>>1929301I was surprised anyone believed this stupid comic. Just by the way the dad was drawn, it felt so fake. He came off as a typical dark-romance love interest (just that he was "Laika's" dad).
No. 1929973
>>1929931ayrt I am not posting porn. I made a new account, and I've been getting stream commissions. You can not believe it all you want, but I swear to god I don't know how to get away from these people. My guess is that it's repeat customers spreading word of mouth or posting my completed commissions to
their own account and linking it to me.
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>>1929983We have to send all women into ''doms'' to a lab to be analized and hopefully find, isolate, and cure whatever gives them this type of mental illness. Also why is it always ugly fat men? ew.
No. 1930005
>>1929973Going to cutesy streams is not how pornsick commission scrotes are finding people to do commissions for them. If you are purposely making porn for people because you are desperate, this if you own fault if past customers are following you and you are willingly giving out your new @s. They would not have found you so quick.
Again, this sounds completely made up.
No. 1930022
>>1930014she draws a lot of ugly old men she's definetly into self inserting as the
victim and having an ugly scrote fat dom. She should hit up preggory.
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>>1930028found her, It was desikeera and her Kevin 11 school shooter OC was named trent
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>>1930064not gonna lie i find it funny he's as bogged as she is. A yassified queen needs his yassified king.
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>>1930064>>1930028It's funny, if you look up the character, 90% of it is just this big edgelord with tiny demure women and then the most cliche yaoi pic like picrel will come along.
No. 1930178
>>1930123Giantess with smaller versions of herself crawling on her
Pretty sure I made really strict rules about commission requests right after that shit
No. 1930212
>>1930088I really appreciate the advice. I think the main reason I don't block them is because my income is so bad due to being afraid to socialize. I've tried being on tumblr (ended in a mental freakout on my part), twitter ate me alive with antis targetting furry artists and labeling them as animal fuckers, even if they drew SFW, and being involved in the Homestuck fandom got some fuckers that were hell to shake off. Apparently my art style is traceable more than I thought.
I don't know what art styles are attractive to a female audience, but I'd love it if I could be commissioned to draw cute characters or just straight-up handsome men. I'll definitely try this though. Being happy to work on a commission sounds like a pipe dream for me.
No. 1930279
>>1930277>mother-son incestbased
>brother-little sister incestcringe. ruined.
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>>1930279>based>incest….you either don't have a mother or were dropped on your head as a infant
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>>1930330>>1930279>>1930311Moid or not why would you enjoy that content and tell other people about that.
(It is a very scrotey fetish though) I get the twins thing sort of (i.e Rin/Len), it's still gross but I get it, but child on mother is just weird
No. 1930390
>>1930358I'm one of the anons who made fun of nonas itt overreacting to the tif art style shit, but good god are you sure you know where you are? Lolcow, where there's a never ending infight about something as insignificant as fujos? Did you seriously think we'd just be fine just announcing your weird fetish for no fucking reason at all?
>>1930387A woman beating up and toturing a man is very different from parental incest. Mostly because one rarely if ever happens.
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can someone please explain to me how and why this girls art is popular? she even has a studio. i don’t get it. i drew like this when i was 10
No. 1931075
>>1931059that is a very good point actually, and i hadn’t though about it. she was popular on tiktok before her “art” for having a 1920s french aesthetic (honestly she’s just cosplaying). she’s really selling this aesthetic so the art must be secondary to it and just a way for her to make some money and gain popularity.
>>1931065her name is alexandra yvette
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>>1931044It reminds me of this weird art style that was everywhere in the late 90s and 2000s- kind of like a low grade microsoft word clipart. Picrel is the closest I could find to it but anyways it has been popular in the past, and grinding out posts (easy with that art style and skill level) and presenting yourself in a certain way (see "art hoes" or shitty post modern artists for example) will definitely help curate a following of normies.
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How can I stop my figures from looking stiff? I don't have a problem when it's a strong dynamic pose, but i am working on sprites for a game and they are all standing like pic rel, so it's really hard to apply gesture lines and make them look good. Any tips?
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Went back after several years to see how GinjaNinjaOWO is doing and their art style has not evolved. If anything the faces look worse..
picrel is their stuff
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>>1931285she made this 2020
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>>1931280they all have the ''how to draw anime'' faces.
No. 1931330
>>1931226Gesture studies. Gesture studies. Gesture studies! My go-to is
https://quickposes.com/en . Doing these daily and trying to force yourself to comprehend your own usage of "action lines" will definitely help. Compiling PureRef collages of art you like with poses you enjoy also helps a lot.
Copying people who have the result you want is the fastest way to learn, too.
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>>1931330Anon, re-read my post please kek. I don't have a problem with figures with really strong action lines, and i do figure drawing daily. However when drawing standing poses and poses that dont have strong action lines , like the standing game sprites i am trying to do, they end up looking really stiff.
No. 1931341
>>1931338Whoops, I had too much caffeine. Sorry about that. Could always try to use pose-able figurines. Pose-kun figurines, though kinda shitty in quality, can offer a little bit more with static poses.
>>1931336 has the right idea. Poseable figures help with that.
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>>1930064Against my better judgment, I decided to skim through her account and found that she retweets way more yaoi than I would have expected. Some of it is like humanized Cars and some of it is disturbing (a lot of child and gore), but there's also straight stuff. She's really into buff goth dudes with tiny women, but also draws older woman younger guy porn and incest shit, It seems like she's almost self-aware with comics like picrel, but I don't understand how someone can have every degenerate fetish all at once. It kind of boggles my mind.
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What artists do you consider to be the best skill-wise? I know it's very subjective, but I would like to know everyone's opinion. Personally, i consider Yoh Yoshinari one of the most skilled artists alive. His style is extremely flexible and he can branch out from figure drawing and character design to mechas, animals, backgrounds and special effects. Going through his sketchbook always fills me with joy.
No. 1931594
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>>1931561Please don't kill me for this. This is strictly an opinion.
Tsukushi Akihito is an artist I've worshipped since I was in my later years of highschool. Despite the fact that they're a
rancid piece of shit loli/shotacon with very digusting fetishes, their usage of lines and colors are amazing. I hope to one day hijack their better art points and use it for better things.
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>>1931622Might actually be the charm in his art? I've never seen AI art in this style, but if we could just convert his degree of simplicity versus complexity, then I'd be happy with him dying.
>>1931618I hope he contracts erectile dysfunction FIRST and then slowly dies. At least he can finish his manga without the weird sexual shit in it.
No. 1931651
>>1931473>I don't understand how someone can have every degenerate fetish all at onceOff topic but porn rots your brain, it makes sense she jumps around from fetish to fetish. Same with any other addict.
>>1931561Skill-wise I have a lot of favorites but right now pop surrealism is a fave. However it usually ends up looking like Big Eyes style (pretty doll girls with huge eyes). Not a fan of the cute/gore contrast but some concepts are interesting.
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why is conecting the neck to the head so hard? or am i just tarded
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>>1931622It really does, my first thought was are we sure he isn’t using AI because seriously wtf am I looking at? It’s like he added a bunch of random ass shapes as an excuse to add more colors when he didn’t need an excuse. Most of the pic looks so flat and the schizo color placement and cluttered non-objects doesn’t draw the eye, it’s just headache inducing.
>>1931594>usage of linesWhat the fuck does this mean kek
No. 1931684
>>1931676I was referring moreso to his pencil works, not that specific image.
>my first thought was are we sure he isn’t using AI because seriously wtf am I looking at?AI art generation didn't really exist on an accessible basis at that point. I'd argue, no, he didn't use AI. As for nowadays for his manga? Probably. I'd still say he doesn't though. I get hating the guy but it seems like you're outright reaching now.
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>>1931676he's been making schizo autistic over-detailed compositions since at least 2007
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>>1931718Idk i think it applies to women too, the most skilled female artists i know all have fucky fetishes. Mgong skill is purely driven by her fatfaggotry.
No. 1932036
>>1932016I don't like either the (several) pedo scrotes or Mgong, but why don't you suggest a normal artist?
>>1932024Can you share caps or a handle, nona?
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>>1931740Thomas Kinkade ahh pedotist
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>>1932039She used to have nice looking cell shading, and that's about it. I like her weird monster priest oc (the nsfw art of it is disgusting though) but she's not really that stand-out, asides from her being seemingly very mentally ill.
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>>1931561Ij kelly
or whitefoxcub as I know her she was one of my biggest inspos for digital art.although I know her style isn't for everyone I personally love how she renders and her color choices and I loved how creepy her comic was.i would love to see her work be animated since it reminds me alot of yoshitaka amano another artist I really love.
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>>1932039She's very skilled for her age(she's 22). I don't like her newer art as much, but she used to have a very nice cell shading style. She's one of those rare super skilled artists that can draw pretty much anything they want so seeing them self indulge in weird shit even if i personally dont like it(like her fat ocs kek) it's entertaining.
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>>1932689she was already insanely talented at 16, pic rel.
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What non-art related websites do you find useful as an arist? I find sketchfab really good to find 3D models i can rotate and use as refs, and i like IMFDB for gun refs
No. 1932777
>>1932725>finished two mangas already> People denying she's impressive are just crabsalthough i also like her art and hate the person but this is some crazy whiteknighting, mgong has some good fundies but i wouldnt say shes mindblowing there were artists on her skill level back in tumblr too when they were only 18 or in their 20s and ive seen many similar artstyles like her all the time. i think youre seeing her art way through a rose tinted glass. you may like her art but it doesnt mean everyone should.
>i genuinely don't know any other artist around her age who draws this muchyou havent been on pixiv have you the yumes and fujos pump out more doujins in a month faster than they can draw,nowadays younger and younger artists are improving way faster than artists in their 20s since most have easy and free access to resources we never had
i am a zoomer and alot of them have helped me No. 1932835
>>1932725Kek, it's really not that hard or amazing to pump out fully rendered pieces weekly. Yes, her art is objectively good but it's not amazing or incredible (especially as of current), and I know artists younger than her who can draw at a similar level. And like
>>1932783 said, she's pretty average when compared to other asian and russian artists but may look better than she actually is if you're only exposed to western tiffie slop.
inb4 old crab, I draw baroque architecture.
No. 1932852
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>>1932839Don't have the time to log into instagram and twitter, but the first one that comes to mind is lemsyeming- her art is kind of muddy but impressive in the fact that it's all pencil on paper
No. 1933010
>>1932950I hate the style too. I recognize that overall it's a technically well executed show but I despise all of LoL's characters - especially Jinx because she's a loli dollar store Harley Quinn - and it's not something I can put aside to watch for technical merit.
Thinking about it more, I dislike the grimy look of the rendering finish, which includes the color palette (at least from the trailer), and the facial proportions remind me of Enrique Fernandez (excellent shape design but fundamentally unappealing to me). I just wish it were possible to have a conversation about these types of nuances without other artists taking it personally that you're not into the same shit they're into.
No. 1933135
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>>1932839The thread and maybe even website has a bias towards a certain artsyle. I think part of the reasons why this thread loves her is because of her weird outburts I guess.
I like Kan Liu's art, he's been crafting a world through a series of drawings and it's been fun to see it develop. I think he's making a comic but I feel like the style he chose doesn't really translate well
No. 1933139
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>>1933135I'm not trying to pit artists against each other. If you find Mgong to be some godtier artist then that's fine.
No. 1933144
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>>1933140>corporate.Might be because he's a riot artist
No. 1933149
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>>1933144I also like 02png's colours but she mostly draws Star Wars
No. 1933150
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>>1933144Makes sense. One reason why i really like mgong is because of her color use, she's very good at playing with colors. Also i just realized
>>1933139are supposed to be 4 different characters, i guess that guy really like his elf waterbenders
No. 1933152
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>>1933150>elf waterbendersYeah I guess that was the main idea, I could swear I saw him drawing his elves/ocs doing other stuff but it's mostly water and tbh it's when is started a lot of followers. It's consistent and appeals to the algo so
>corporate No. 1933161
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>>1933152It's not my cup of tea, i find the artstation style really boring and ugly. But to be fair mgong is the only anime/modern artist i like, pretty much all the other artists i like are deceased illustrators and painters, so the bar is very high.
No. 1933167
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>>1933161I had a feeling you were going to say something like that. Mgong has a style I personally associate with fanart and those kind of spaces which is probably why she's really loved here, that and her online behaviour
No. 1933169
>>1933161…I hope you're pretending to be retarded because it seems you're just asking for recommendations for to still praise mgongs generic as shit Chinese artstyle
just go visit billibilli and you'll see as if she's the upper echelon of anime art… Good for you?..I guess? But don't waste time for other nonnies to spoon-fed just because you can't fucking google
No. 1933172
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>>1933167>>1933161MihifuHi
I love how she makes somewhat surreal/trippy Madoka fanart, it's a bit weird there isn't more surreal fanart considering the anime's visual style
No. 1933175
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>>1933172>>1933169I'm fully convinced the reason she's loved here is because she's insane, there's more to her than just art. I know I've seen her colouring style elsewhere, you can probably say the same thing about for the other artists I shared.
Again not saying she's bad but I don't get the cult she has here
No. 1933178
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>>1933175Wish she drew more
No. 1933186
>>1933175Are you the same anon that posted
>>1933139 ? because that guy is nowhere near as skilled as Mgong to be honest. It just looks like generic Arstation slop with stiff poses and boring, safe character design.
No. 1933201
>>1933197Can you provide examples of what you mean? I agree with
>>1933133 that pretty much all styles suffer from the same-face syndrome. From 50s commercial illustration to modern concept art you can find a generic go-to face. Also, i don't feel like ''sameface'' applies to Mgong's artstyle, she probably has the most variety out of all animu artists kek. Also, unpopular opinion, but i dont care if an artist has same face, I am not going to draw ugly men just for the sake of ''variety'' when most moid illustrators always draw the same generic qte grill with the token ugly varied scrotes and no one says anything about it.
No. 1933208
>>1933201You’re like a redditor asking for a source for everything, just look at literally any capeshit comic holy shit. Leyendecker. You don’t know what semi-realism without a bug eyed featureless anime face is?
>>1933150 This is much better than the anime glasses moid everyone posts but still there’s the bug eyed girl with a vastly different skull from the more semi real fat moid of course. I’m just so tired of anime.
No. 1933216
>>1933211ok but sameface is not the argument, I don’t know where you/that anon are even pulling that from.
The argument is anime faces are not impressive. It’s so easy to draw an attractive anime face.
No. 1933222
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>>1933208Different characters, one of them is from a different comic company, but super duper recognisable and different aren't they nona?
Every artstyle has a default face, and every face will be built on that default face- some styles are way more diverse, some aren't. It's definitely not just an issue with anime.
No. 1933225
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>>1933222Yes and it takes a lot more skill to draw that then draw a dot for a nose and a line for a mouth. You guys are so dumb.
No. 1933229
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>>1933218His poses just feel very static to me. He also has horrible same-face syndrome, are those girls the same character or are they supposed to be different girls?
>>1933222kek yeah that's the default capeshit face. Meanwhile men in capeshit comics are allowed to be really grotesque looking like the penguin, hulk and swamp thing. Even she-hulk has the same pretty woman face just with a slightly roided physique. At least anime gives the same moe default face to men, so we get some eyecandy. In the whole history of capeshit there is like two actually attractive male characters. Anon should also learn about the gibson girl, which was basically the animu face of the 19th century.
No. 1933231
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>>1933225>it takes a lot more skill to draw ''you need to know the rules to break them'' anime faces are just simplified forms of realistic faces, you still need to know the fundamentals to draw them. So many westerners struggled drawing anime faces because they see them as flat planes rather than 3D ones, they don't see the dot nose as the simplified version or a 3d nose, but rather as just a dot. Manga materials has a very good video explaining face simplification.
No. 1933232
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>>1933225I have a feeling you wouldn't like Satoshi Kon even though he makes more effort in diversifying faces than any of your examples
No. 1933236
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>>1933232I do like Kon and those are a lot more interesting to look at than mgong strict anime face.
No. 1933244
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Faces and expressions are the priority of interest in art for me when I view and create it, and I actually don't understand the people who say things like
>>1933235>I would rather see attractive faces than ugly ones.and have no problem looking at the same fucking expressionless beautiful face every time. Don't you people get bored? Genuinely asking. Because there's a lot of interesting features about non attractive faces that genuinely can be beautiful and engaging to look at if you just get over your shallow and limited creative outlook.
>>1933232Like these are a good example of well-designed, non-attractive characters and I find myself genuinely more engaged when they're on the screen or in panel rather than the prettier boring ones. or Urusawa's characters
No. 1933249
>>1933247Anon, please. All of satoshi kon's women look attractive because men are shallow and dont like to see ugly women.
>>1933248None of them are attractive. Still, i dont understand why you have a problem with me being shallow when urusawa is clearly shallow considering he only draws female characters that are attractive/cute. I guess it's shallow when a woman wants attractive male characters but its not shallow when a scrote only draws ugly men but beautiful women, that's diversity in design ackshually.
No. 1933251
>>1933249>None of them are attractiveNot even Johan?
Ngl I think Tenma is kinda handsome, also kind of like the uber schnozz look in men, especially anime, idk. A good nose is quite rare, men or women.
No. 1933254
>>1933251yeah sorry i didnt recognize him, he drew him ugly for no reason. I dont like ugly noses or beards in men, he's just unwashed looking. He looks like your average unwashed gamer scrote to be honest.
>>1933252He looks greasy and unwashed, no thanks. I will take my well groomed bishies that dont look like they reek of cigarette. I also don't understand whats wrong with being shallow, considering that both satoshi and uresawa are obviously shallow as fuck and dont want to draw ugly women kek. At least mgong draws her fat reverse trap oc ugly while her moids remain kawaii bishies.
No. 1933259
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>>1933249>None of them are attractiveNot even Epsilon (the one in the turtleneck
>>1933244)? I think he’s pretty cute.. (sorry for husbandofagging)
No. 1933263
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>>1933249The female leads are pretty, yeah, but other female characters are more varied.
No. 1933266
>>1933259he's cute i guess, kinda faggy
>>1933260>>1933261you are derailing now
>>1933263nonny please you are just picking random characters that appear for like a scene or have antagonistic roles like the fat woman in perfect blue. Meanwhile his ugly male characters are given starring roles and we have to see them for the entire show like the ugly toad guys he likes to shove on our faces, or the tranny.
No. 1933279
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Weren't Satoshi Kon movies about actresses and idols for the most part?
I felt like the Paranoia Agent protag was meant to be slightly homely.
No. 1933297
>>1933279She's still attractive, just in a 'moe' way, there is even one scene where they focus on her bra.
>>1933288I have never seen an attractive scrote in one of satoshi's works. I actually hate how he draws women because they stand like a sore thumb amongst his extremely realistic over detailed scrotes. My biggest problem with people who complain about pretty faces/diversity is that they only seem to see it as a problem when its a woman drawing bishies, but make excuses for straight scrotes drawing ugly men and pretty women. I don't get it.
No. 1933302
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>>1933254>>1933266NTAYRT about Urasawa’s women, but I was pleasantly surprised reading the latter arcs in Yawara. There are some women with different features as minor/side characters, but they introduce a couple new female characters as rivals to her. My favorite is Jodie(the big redhead). She becomes Yawara’s opponent-turned-close friend. She has a life of her own and a boyfriend. The one with very short hair is Anna who (iirc) is built up as the strongest opponent. I’ll never know what happens though because english scanlations stopped years ago, but Yawara’s friend (with the squinty eyes) seems to get more focus later too?
I honestly cannot recommend reading the first parts of the story though, it feels like a totally different manga and has annoying forced panty shots and creepy moids. Also Yawara’s main rival in those is a typical rich pretty anime mean girl.
I actually agree with you that Urasawa needs to improve on diversifying his women though, specifically the ones who get main roles. I’m disappointed I have yet to see women even close to Jodie and Anna’s caliber again in the stories he made after Yawara (and Jodie and Anna aren’t even that amazing, just decent/okay portrayals). He goes for basically the same conventional anime girl face for the most important female character in each of his stories. If the “most important” female character has unconventional characteristics (like a hooked nose), it’s in a very male dominated story where she’s not a prominent character.
No. 1933305
>>1933300What are you even trying to defend at this point
nonny. I like satoshi, cancers is a bitch and he shouldnt have died so young, but denying he's a shallow scrote who liked his women to be pretty is stupid.
No. 1933363
>>1932725Agree that anons dunking on her are mostly crabs bitter about not achieving such level of productivity at her age or hate her for the fetish art and that's why they're trying to downplay her work and effort. The Asian art scene is brutal though, her schizoposting must be
triggered by the crabs in her own community doing the same as all the anons ITT and having been molded by the equally
abusive soviet style art school you can only imagine the standards she sets for herself. The anon in one of the previous threads who said all Russian and Chinese artists have 10 mental illnesses was right.
No. 1933367
>>1933336He's male (or so she claims) but her calling him "mama" is just typical tranny fetish talk.
Also I don't get why people say mgong's characters are expressive. Maybe in her previous art yes but nowadays all she draws is her fat tif oc with the same lukewarm smile everywhere and then generic pretty anime woman with wide eyed expression no. 688
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>>1933367Be careful you’ll just be called a crab.
I sure as shit can’t color or do fundies as well as her but I also sure as shit can draw better profiles.
No. 1933385
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Does anyone know of any artists similar to bekinski?
>>1933140I like dramatic color use as well, but I dont find anything really wrong with these colorwise.
No. 1933390
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Does anyone know colehairlesscat? A TiF of course but I love her sketches, they are so fluid and interesting, and her animation reels using them are so expressive, but all and I mean ALL she draws is herself. Illustrations, characters, studies, you name it, she turns them all into herself. It’s honestly bizarre how she manages it. I want to draw like that but I had to unfollow.
She’s a friend of Nirami on YouTube who also only seems to draw herself anymore. Sad I liked her OCs and lack of coomerism.
No. 1933401
>>1933394>>1933390I don't find it creepy but I just don't like seeing it. It feels like they are obviously doing it for themselves and that I shouldn't be looking.
But Nirami is fine imo because she's like Sarah Andersen where she mostly draws stuff as relatable jokes. I don't really care for her original art or style in general though. Now that I think about it, maybe that group is trying to build up personas so they can become recognizable outside of art and start streaming or something to make money with content that's easier to produce
No. 1933404
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>>1930122fujos who transition from drawing yaoi to more typical heterosexual content fascinate me. Do you remember that one creepy artist who drew those strange kid John Connor/Terminator shipping artworks? Well, somewhere along the line she started drawing a female version of Terminator and began making shipping art of female Terminator with John, the T-1000 and Sarah Conner. She also recently created ship art of Paul and his mother from Dine. Although she still makes and retweets yaoi as well, so it's not a complete change either.
No. 1933427
>>1933401I am doing the same thing kinda, with AI it’s important to attach an identity to your art, so I’ve been drawing myself as an ugly little creature like Nirami does and often posting my irl appearance. But still most of what I draw and post is not myself like Cole. She is so full of herself. This is her bio:
“Yes, you have permission to take inspiration from me. Under one condition: Assure what you create is true to you.”
Like kek
No. 1933742
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>>1908115She lashed out on twitter and got into drama again kek
No. 1933776
>>1933404tbh I like this kind of shipping art way more than the aggressive sexual dimorphism thay you see with ships that are basically ugly moid x uwuified smol coquette gf. Although I agree with
>>1933412 in that the skimpy outfit is dumb.
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>>1933404Kek i love this retard she draws leon fucking cuntboyfied versions of the monsters from RE. I can respect that tbh.
No. 1933956
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>>1933412>>1933776I mean, the only non-freak ship art she ended up drawing was also incest.
No. 1933981
>>1933956mother-son incest at that kek.
>>1931616 was right
No. 1934020
I think mgong is just fascinating. I agree with
>>1932516 that it's fun seeing a (skilled) artist who seemingly is able to draw whatever comes to mind, which definitely takes a certain level of skill and confidence in your work. Saying she's 'not that good' is mostly cope. I follow quite a lot of Chinese artists and she's far from the only one that will randomly have meltdowns, I've seen some even outright say they have BPD. She just stands out more among them because of her particularly unhinged OCs.
This is more meta to the art salt thread in general, but I always think it's funny whenever this thread devolves into another "all anime art is bad actually" tirade because I've yet to see a single one of them finally show an example of art they think is good that is actually really impressive. Like
>>1932852 could be amazing if I could actually see what the fuck was going on.
Same goes for the 'women always have to be pretty' thing. I don't actually disagree, but if we're going to be honest the most common way of making a character more diverse structure (body or face) wise is deviating from the beauty standard. And we all know that if some artist drew a bunch of female characters with eyebags or a slight belly this thread would freak out too.
No. 1934054
>>1933897No need to unleash your fetishes on us.
>>1933956I saw that randomly on my tl. That's incest ship art? Damn, I know nothing about Dune.
No. 1934119
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>>1934105Now that's a name I haven't seen in ages.i miss her schizo pickme posts on how eunuchs were the better women and trying to rewrite history by making ottoman yaoi so much.the twists in her thread were great like when it was revealed she was in a religious cult kek
and her uncomfortable relationship with her sister..i wonder where she's now…
No. 1934183
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does anyone know what brushes he uses? or something similar. I have been using the soft round brush but i wanna brach out to more traditional looking brushes with texture.
No. 1934433
>>1934424Tbf I was like, 14 and knew nothing about well, anything to do with sex.
I figured myself out just fine.
No. 1934442
>>1934426Tayrt I don't deny it but I can't fathom thinking that I must be a gay moid just because I want some dignity and integrity for how women are represented.perhaps you were too young to understand that wanting a equal scale to objectification women face as a
woman yourself
or spent way too much time on tumblr but thinking you must be the opposite sex and gay at that(gay men being the most degenerate at potrying women aka drag shows) I don't mean to insult you personally but you have to admit how retarded is that to read
No. 1934452
>>1934442I never had a tumblr or any social media platform.
When I finally got onto the internet and saw women seemingly enjoying sexualizing themselves while seeing objectified men being a thing only for gay men, is it really so retarded that an impressionable kid figures that they're the one that is weird?
No. 1934493
>>1934452Not at all. It actually makes sense now why you thought that now,glad to see you realized how retarded it was
nonnie. It is strange though now that you mention it whenever any yume artist draws a sexy male outfit there are moids seething how it's objectifiying them! And it's totes fetishism despite them drawing more degenerate art(another reason they hate yaoi too). I hate that most yumes and fujos are shamed for drawing what they want.
No. 1934593
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>>1934119decided to look them up and their still drawing eunuch/troon art and now they've gotten into Final Fantasy, this is supposed to be that byzantine emperor and his eunuch court official.
No. 1934596
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>>1934593this is what the emperor looked IRL, and while there are no accounts of what the eunuch(Chrysaphius) looked like, he would not have looked like a female supermodel and more likely just a fat man with low-t features.
No. 1934603
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I love Takato Yamamoto's art so much. I love the detail of his line work, the coloring style, and the horror elements, and he is super based for depicting pretty doll-faced men as well as pretty women. He has a few pieces of beautiful long-haired men getting tortured too. I love picrel though most of his other art has a way darker/more surreal atmosphere.
No. 1934613
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>>1934608Not that I know of unfortunately, it seems really scattered. I mostly just download from instagram or dig around on other sites and just happen to find something I haven't seen before
No. 1934672
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>>1934603His gay vampire art is so supremo.
No. 1934691
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>>1933903Here nonla. Of course she’s a good artist and I’m sure she has art with better profiles but be real those sideways eyes are amateur af.
No. 1934740
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>>1934672>>1934613>>1934603These are all from Scarlet Maniera, although a lot of vampire art is in (I think) allure of pharkamon. They occasionally sell it on Amazon, maybe you could find one for cheaper on auction if you keep looking. If you like this art of his the best, you should buy that book specifically. Altar of Narcissus is the next best one but features more women.
No. 1935387
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>>1934691Yours is completly flat. Please draw a million loomis heads before crabbing a better artist next time.
No. 1935419
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To whoever introduced me to this faggot, fuck you. I have never hated a woman more in my life. I hope she gets carpal tunnel and cant draw this shit anymore. She isnt even skilled enough to get away with it like mgong or aurora
No. 1935427
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>>1934691She fixed her eye placement and proportions as she got older.
No. 1935509
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>>1935502nta but no, its one of her new donut steels she has
No. 1935530
>>1935369>technical errorsDo you seriously not see her horrible eyes and ears and dog muzzles and how they are not in the redraw
>>1935427These are great, she got better.
No. 1935608
>>1935419I'm confused. What does this even mean? She is married to an
abusive man but she likes it?
No. 1935620
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I'm getting flashbacks to pyw chan.no wonder someone who likes the schizo pedos cows art would be as schizo as her kek comeon nonna don't ruin my personal artcow for me
No. 1935627
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>>1935578This, the pedo/troon/furry/moid art dickriding is extremely obvious kek the baiters are embarrassing themselves
No. 1935685
>>1934906>>1934908>>1935008>>1935188They could have just said no and i wouldn't have done it, simple as that.
>>1935179Not bait, I'm actively working with real art and AI
>>1935383I have made peace with that fact and i still asked them nicely because even if the tool isn't ethical that doesn't mean i can't be ethical myself.
>>1934884Why? In a way is like having the artist rediscover their own art.
>>1934895I'm not trying to devalue anyone, infact i belive that AI will give the artist more value
No. 1935737
>>1935685You are stupid.
>>1935689I do, albeit mine are typically older than me by ~5 years, I tend to compare their old art to mine when I'm at the same stage/age and take notes of what they've done better and adjust accordingly. It's a roulette of about 7 different artists that changes up occasionally so I don't end up accidentally skinwalking one.
>>1935655Not one of the anons who said they were better, but pointing out she's fairly mediocre in comparison to similar artists isn't crabbing. She's a good artist, but the people who hate her and the people who overwhelmingly cape for her are just as annoying as each other.
No. 1935759
>>1934754I feel this so much. Something about traditional is satisfying and fulfilling on a totally different level to digital, even when my digital art is 99% of the time objectively better. Like taking a pencil or brush to paper, no screens, just goes right to the soul. Traditional activates more of the senses-the smell of the materials, the varying textures, etc. Plus something about it makes me feel like I'm a kid again playing with crayons, totally disconnected from screens & comparing myself to anyone. And then even after the piece is finished, a file in my computer just doesn't feel as "real" as paper or canvases stacked in my room.
However my love of the process of traditional art is hampered solely by the lack of a transform tool/liquify, lol. Like I'll work for hours on a traditional piece and then when I notice a proportional flaw, or some other flaw that could be fixed in 3 seconds in digital, it kills me inside.
But the flipside of that - does anyone else feel that digital
triggers a ton of perfectionism and decision fatigue? Like I often cannot stop constantly flipping the canvas and nitpicking minor errors until the piece is a far cry from it's original charm. Etc ad naseum with all the brushes and tools. It's ironically freeing to NOT have all these options with traditional.
But I feel the same way going to restaurants with big menus so maybe i'm just mentally ill kekFor what it's worth I got my first tablet at 11 and my lifetime art-making is pretty evenly split between digital and trad
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>>1935649>>1935653For many tiktok zoomers her art is an introduction to 2000s cartoon styles. Her art looks cool, is easy to copy and she has stated that she doesn't have any issues with people doing that so the popularity makes sense to me. She was already somewhat popular for mostly on-model jojo fanart, then she starting changing the designs and style and people started liking it a lot more but didn't need to know jojo to follow because she was basically drawing OCs at that point
No. 1936326
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>>1935933>>1935936I think you're confused. Her style is obviously inspired by tv shows from back then, not the deviantart users that were posting
No. 1936341
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>>1936332you can tell she is a woman because she tries to add moments of catharsis or cutesy little interactions, but it just makes her come off as a psychopath imo. wish she would just fully embrace the dark aspect of her work, and stop trying to make it into some "bdsm isn't all bad uwu" shit, she genuinely makes me angry for some of her weird takes on the relationships she is writing.
No. 1936346
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>>1936321nta but it seems very reminiscent of the cartoons on mtv like downtown mat and liquid tv
No. 1936354
>>1935419>>1936341This is quite possibly the most pathetic thing I've ever seen.
>>1936347Being a pickme desperate for male validation has nothing to do with sex addiction.
No. 1936442
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>>1936341She gets
triggered when people compare her fat ugly husbando to Cartman, kek
https://x.com/null_backdoorho/status/1770868112356720726?s=20 No. 1936443
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>>1936373>>1936434Yeah she fantasizes about her moid murdering her apparently
No. 1936444
>>1936442>mocking my body/traumaIs this artist claiming to actually be a
victim of FGM?
No. 1936516
>>1936509I don't believe she's experienced FGM, I'm not going to lie. She seems to fetishize women's trauma because she hates her own female existence and anatomy. She probably thinks actual FGM
victims deserve it in some way. Something about this person is so deeply insidious and offputting to me.
No. 1936626
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>>1936560Ironically, the more extreme a fetish or fetishes an artist has the more likely they're virgins or have had little actual IRL sexual experience. They literally let pornography online supplement actual healthy sexual experience and development. There's a reason most nerds online will label themselves asexual but then have a weight gain, vore, mpreg, piss and rape kink combo. It is rare for someone who's had a normal sexual development to have this. I have seen that happen way too many times to count. I call genuine bullshit on Null saying she wants that to happen to her, she reeks of try hard insecure nerdy woman who consumed pornography from such an early age that nothing vanilla gets her off anymore hence why she is now jilling off to clit removal, developed and extraordinarily unhealthy idea of sex, never developed the shame to combat and grow from this damaging perspective, and possibly uses edginess, pornography, and being horny to supplement an actual personality. This is so textbook it's not even funny. Pornography truly is a poison for the mind abnormalize what would've been just normal nerdy women.
No. 1936638
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>>1936517I don't like her art but you are obviously reaching. I'd call her expressions pretty bland if I'm being honest.
No. 1936679
>>1936637After knowing she was a tif in the past I think that fat pedo is her self insert or her "tifsona"
>>1936626I agree,most NSFW asexual artists I've seen have the most degenerate and rancid fetishes while claiming to be replused by it. I don't think asexuals don't exist but not in the sense a Tif would think they do. I think most traumatized women affected by sexual violence can experience it and want to stay away from anything sexual as a way to cope so they identify as asexuals to label their discomfort but even in that assessment I could be wrong and it could be a different terminology for it but one thing I can certainly say that null is just larping and I'm horried to think that she thinks gential mutilation is kinky since actual women face it against their will in alot of african countries I'm just disgusted by her
No. 1936715
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I dont know if anyone else is following all the crappy youtuber made pilots that are currently in development, but mark uploaded a snippet of his pilot on twitter. It's so…bland, i dont understand who's the audience for this. The designs look like some crappy forgotten hanna barbera show from the 70s, but the premise is trying to be emotive. On other news, daftpina cancelled his pilot because people called it ugly kek.
No. 1937099
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>>1937022>>1937096The /ot/newfag plague is horrendous, can they please lurk and maybe invest in picrel before sperging out
No. 1937180
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I just found out about this guy and i kinda feel bad for him, he had the generic AI slop style way before AI was even a thing. Have you changed anything about your artstyle thanks to AI?
No. 1937214
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>>1936171I'm happy to see that. I had thought she might have passed away
1/2
No. 1937233
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>>1937180It's a female artist, nonna. I know because I remember her posting her tits on Twitter a lot in the past, kek. I kinda like how she draws the clothing in this very clean, straightforward way, but yeah, she has a perfect soulless animu style for the type of games she worked on.
To answer your question, the only thing that I took out of AI was reflecting on the contrast, levels and a bit on saturation of my drawings. Other than that, when I tried to replicate some AI shit I just realized that all those nonsensical details the AI adds are too distracting for me, and if I tried to fix it the entire image would start to fall apart. Studying and replicating art made by human artists works much better for me.
AI images are perfect for the current algorithm of just looking at an image for a second and then scrolling past. It has enough going on that if you only look for a brief moment your mind will fill the image in your head but the more you look the worse it will get. Personally, I prefer to prioritize people that can actually appreciate my art instead of those addicted social media scrollers.
No. 1937403
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Some retard is claiming to be SoapOpera46 for attention. The audacity.
No. 1937408
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>>1937403Soap opera doesn’t use gradients in her art nor has her real identity been revealed. She still posts on her DA and her current art does not look like that.
No. 1937409
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>>1937408Here’s her art from LAST YEAR.
No. 1937465
>>1936638 I was refering particularly to this piece.
>>1935927 But if she also created the piece on the left that you posted then yes that does look 00s.
No. 1937694
>>1937663She may be saying that the side effects of the medicine either
trigger psychosis or they are bad enough that they have detrimental effects on her mental health (this leading to the psychosis). That was how I took it at least.
No. 1937730
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>>1937704>vipers nestKek but come on
nonny you can crop the conversation and hide conversations that can reveal you dont drop milk and don't expect to show caps
No. 1937749
>>1937555I set up a bot (Postybirb) that reposts "commission reminders" once a day to my art site of choice. I think the best time to do it is when viewer traffic is high?
disclaimer: I use Furaffinity. Might not be applicable everywhere.
No. 1937784
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>>1937760I remember the whole thing with Zaikudo. Her art was super good to the audience I was a part of (picrel), people started stealing it and reposting it without credits or permission. She DFE and ran to some secluded website, and then ultimately died.
No. 1937859
>>1935759Same but I’ve started relying more on traditional but use digital for palette choices or checking values so I don’t overwork a piece which is easy to do with digital.
>>1937834>>1936326I’m retarded lol that’s her. I hope zoomers can check out original cut Daria. The DVD set scrubbed the original music which added a lot of depth to the time period.
>>1937214Thanks anon. I don’t know what auto immune she has but it sounds like she was on the wrong medication or the only one that would help and had really bad side effects. She wanted to get back to normal by posting a video but also felt awful for abandoning her audience. I understand that and it’s good to see she’s feeling better but it sounds like she still needs to time recover physically and mentally.
>>1937760I remember sparkle dogs and dolling drama. Also that KH artist with gatcha designs before gatcha was a thing. SaphyDraka? She passed away a few years ago. Her style was eye searing but you could tell she had fun with it and wasn’t too serious about her work.
No. 1938138
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>>1938123Do you mean pov in straight porn where a woman just lies there and stares at a man thrusting in and out of her making that one face, you know this one
No. 1938350
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How do you design memorable characters?
No. 1938365
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>>1938361same,
nonny. He has the art skills of a down syndrome toddler but he's really talented at creating unique designs.
No. 1938371
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>>1938365There's something about art made by people who draw very poorly yet have very clear passion behind what they make that makes it incredibly appealing (was going to say men, but SoapOpera46 and captainhowdy have the same appeal). Interesting how the reverse of that, great skills but no art autism, is always bland and unappealing.
No. 1938373
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>>1938371I never liked higurashi designs. I think the original oven mittens designs are definetly unique and i like them more than the remakes, but i feel like once you take the style away the designs are very bland. Zun's designs look amazing when drawn by skilled artists.
No. 1938376
>>1938373Agreed, once they left the mitt phase they were just average anime school characters #2891023. I've always wanted to get into Touhou for the designs alone for years and years, never got around to doing so. I think his strengths are in balancing the design and creating a good shape
(as in with clothes, not shape language) and colour scheme.
No. 1938381
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>>1938376> I've always wanted to get into Touhou for the designs alone for years and years, never got around to doing so.do it please i need more women to get into shmups! its really easy and acessible to play, it just takes time to git gud at it.
>I think his strengths are in balancing the design and creating a good shape (as in with clothes, not shape language) and colour scheme.i agree, and also mixing japanese elements with western ones, it gives the world a very unique feeling that makes it stand out amongst the sea of all western inspired or all japanese inspired games/anime.
I am designing characters for my own shmup and i am praying i can make characters as unique as touhou…
No. 1938385
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>>1938363She always drew husbandos and they just looked weird, sorry for your husbando. She drew mine too and looked like shit as expected kek. I went to check on her because of your post and holy shit, she just gave up.
>>1938366>remember she drew the animal crossing catThat one gave me nightmares, I rather not remember that
No. 1938393
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>>1938385nta but sakimichan will always baffle me how much a artist can go down in skill,her old art had more emotion than the AI coom slop she churns out its just mind boggling she took the cheaper and quick way out and now shes drawing this trash for years i think the only good side to this shes getting paid for it but damn what a legacy to leave she used to one of internets best artists.
No. 1938401
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>>1938393She must hate what she does, it must be the reason why the drawings got so shitty. She does it for the money, but I feel like she's must be loosing her mind after all these years.
No. 1938405
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>>1938371Nayrt but I can't agree more
nonnie. Picrel is the promo art for a visual novel I played where the in-game art was somehow even worse than ZUN. Yet this game was one of the greatest masterpieces of pure schizophrenic autism I have ever witnessed that the art grew on me so much and even contributed to the feel of utter ugliness and despair the author was trying to convey (literally she is De Sade come to life again). It really inspired me not to care about art quality in media anymore and valuing instead the pursuit of the author's pure unadultered devotion to their idea. I'll take art so bad that it's good to webtoon clip studio asset jelly style or whatever perfect flawless but souless art any day.
No. 1938411
>>1938405What game
nonny? also i agree. I used to always put off learning how to code because i wanted to get really good at art first, and now i realize it doesn't matter and that i wasted years not improving on a really necessary skill for nothing.
No. 1938430
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>>1938366Pic related, don't bully me kek.
I knew she drew men but haven't followed her stuff in YEARS.
>i remember she drew the animal crossing catRaymond? I miss having a switch, I got him as one of my starter villagers.
>>1938385afaik she had a team that helped her or something but her stuff now hurts my eyes and brain
Iirc someone was tinfoiling that she might even train an AI on her art and make stuff that she retouches, or something like that
>>1938393sakimichan will always baffle me how much a artist can go down
I first discovered her back on deviantart, she sold her soul for money
No. 1938448
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>>1938411Shitoku no gyokuza. It's a free game but jap only, though it runs well with agent if you wanna MTL. Writing is simple so its quite readable.
Also I relate a lot,
nonnie. I've spent my entire life being somewhat ashamed of my art for being bad and grinding the aesthetics of it instead of simply following (and discovering) my passion for stuff.
>>1938412Kek
nonnie I highly recommend it, it's one of my favourite visual novels I've ever played, if you like utsuge you'll be amazed at how something like this is free. There's probably something deeply wrong with the (female) author but it makes it even more entertaining. The whole game is a neverending spiral of despair it's honestly amazing. It also has one of the scariest villains I've ever seen in a game. Also recommend it for the haughty egotistical asshole mc being absolutely destroyed. Picrel on the left
also my husbando. The art is also, of course, extremely bad.
No. 1938533
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>>1938401Her current art looks so low effort and lazy that I want to believe she's already started fresh with an anonymous side account where she draws what she actually likes and on her main one of her assistants is just fucking with her coomer followers making the least effort they could to get their money. She's literally drawing the same corny "sexy nostalgic children's show character with her comically large tits in the focus" picture over and over again with cheesy porn dialogue that's exactly like those uncanny moid fetish comics. Even the replies always sound like bots.
No. 1938738
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Does anyone have more info or something more in depth about picrel? I went looking for "decration art tutorial" but was met with nothing. I even considered it being an engrish version of "decoration"
No. 1938744
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>>1938738i think by decoration they mean the color hues theyve used as in the lights or reflective light heres one similar one, theres a good course by peter chan on color that can help!
No. 1938778
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>>1938754hard drive/external hdd, I've been hoarding stuff for years, never trust websites/cloud, always have multiple physical backups
pixiv has a lot of good tutorials, get a pixiv downloader extension and knock yourself out
weibo/bilibili/huaban for chinese tuts
if you see anything you like on pinterest, download it, cause they've been removing pins like crazy in the past months, nowhere is safe unless it's on your HDD
No. 1938827
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So pronouns have more power and are they the ones that affirm whether you are a man or a woman?
I like this artist and I'm glad that she remains strong in the face of her illness. Who hurt her so much by thinking that not having a uterus makes her less of a woman?
No. 1938854
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>>1923168Null's former friend Terry (Tbrainrot) confirmed it as a larp lol
No. 1938882
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Sage for non-milk and sorry if I'm being too salty, but I was checking one of the convention artist discords and I feel like these people are being delusional and giving bad advice. They're acting as if hobby level drawings with frankly VERY wonky anatomy should be priced the same as an "average wage" worker. It's not an attack on the person who made them, but more so on the others for giving bad and unrealistic advice. The person hasn't ever done a single commission before (despite saying they're opening them "again") and the others are just screaming about the prices being "too low", when clearly no one even wanted to pay that much for them! The reason artists deserve pay is because they put in the effort to get good, but this person just isn't at that level yet. It's not fair to make people pay full price for your "still learning how to draw well" drawings. Most educations have a practical period where you go and do work for free as part of the training for the job, before you're good enough to actually get paid for your work.
This is just one single example of it, this is a thing I keep seeing over and over and it annoys me (and no, they're not just kids most are adults).
No. 1939042
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>>1939022Nonnie, it's not that hard, once you get past the basics of contrast and saturation, you can learn anagalous and triad colours- also doing colour studies will help tons. Just don't colour pick, try to get the colours as accurate as possible to the reference without it and eventually you'll work it out.
>>1939018Kek, from past experince they never fucking do.
No. 1939142
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It's so hard to design characters. They look insanely good in my head and then when i put the idea on paper it looks like ass. It's also hard to find the perfect mix of simple but not generic, detailed but not overdesigned. At least the project i am working on is just a passion project and purely tailored for my tastes, but i still feel dissapointed on myself and my art skills when i cant make something good.
No. 1939266
>>1938897>Clearly people are willing to pay for this level of work at higher prices then so what.But the thing is people are NOT willing to pay, hence why this artist has never gotten a single commission. The others are frankly being cruel by telling her to raise her prices (assuming she wants commissions) because it will put even more people off from buying it. If it was maybe 10 euro I'd say it's a totally fair price for what you're getting.
>>1939018>the retards gassing them up better be the ones to commission themIn 99% cases they don't, in the last 1% cases they do it to prove they're right, expecting the other person ("friend") to do the same for them as they (try to) sell the same level of art at a similar price (meaning it's essentially just a free art trade).
>>1938896>These people should learn that labor costs isn't the only variable defining a paycheck, but also the amount of demand.100% this, I could spend 50 hours building a castle out of my chewed up gum but it doesn't mean it's actually worth 50 hours of paid wage work kek
No. 1939365
>>1939022While I agree with the other anon that color can definitely be learned, if all fails there's tons of artists who made a career our of b/w art. Think of graphical artists like Kollwitz and contemporary comic artists or illustrators like Nico Delort. It's okay to focus on what you're good at without spending effort.
Also I think when people have a real affinity for specific color effects I suspect it might often be connected to biological foundations like your gender or specific mutations and you might simply not have that.
No. 1939469
>>1939332>jealousyAre you serious? her art was so fucking ugly back then and her massive ego didn’t help.
that said she seems to be doing well now and her art HAS improved to a level that I can imagine people being jealous of even though it’s not my taste, so good for her
No. 1939509
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>>1938744ayrt, I understand that in a very surface level, but I really wanted something more in depth - especially for traditional art, since a lot of these effects can be achieved with messing up with curves or even filters. I don't know if it has an actual name for this kind of coloring.
sorry to bring mgong up again, but it was the quickiest example I've found No. 1939589
File: 1711470334861.jpg (563.43 KB, 876x1030, aurora.jpg)
since nonnies were talking about styles that werent samefaced animu nor hyper realistic, are there more examples of artists that have styles like auroradiation? she does have the perfect mix between realistic and stylized
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>>1939589rei_17,SuperGrass1004,quruiqing i could go on but i feel like these artists also have a nice balance of color
No. 1939627
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>>1939535That's actually a good tip, I'll try to practice that. I always struggle because, to me, picrel is also kinda in the same ballpark, but my brain doesn't register it as desaturated. When I try to replicate it, it because an ugly, muddy mess. I love those clean, neon pop of colours, but I do struggle to apply it.
No. 1939795
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>>1939399What kind of anime? there's really nice b/w anime art, though it will be a struggle if your style is moeblob
No. 1939828
>>1939042NTA I remember failing color theory in art college twice kek. Some artists just are not capable of doing it I think.
>>1939365 's mention of BW art is TEMPTING.
No. 1939857
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nonnies i'm about to start tearing my fucking hair out, i've been trying to find this one specific artist i saw back on deviantart in like 2015 and i can't fucking find any trace of her despite knowing that she was fairly popular
is there anything i can do to find her??? i don't have any of her art saved, i don't remember her username but i distinctly remember what her art looked like and the exact details of several of her artworks
do any of you have any advice on how to proceed? i'm sleep deprived and have no idea if this should even go in this thread but i need to see her art again because her style was mindblowing and i want to study her work so i can improve mine
No. 1939882
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>>1939627Hopefully this is helpful; I’ve dabbled in this kind of colouring before and while I’ve not mastered it, these are the main things I’ve noticed while doing studies. You really don’t need a lot of shifting to get a good result, and often a more delicate touch looks better.
No. 1939923
>>1939266>But the thing is people are NOT willing to pay, I also said
> If they don’t sell the the logical thing would be to reduce prices until they find a buyer.Yeah it's a bit cruel that she's in an echo chamber but I'd like to think that eventually she'll be forced to lower her prices if she wants comms.
How old is she anyway?
>>1939589Isn't this type of style super common? The problem is defining what "animu" means
No. 1940150
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I posted this as a question on ic but since no one was willing to answer there (apparently they're too busy posting in the disgusting loli thread) I might as well ask the same question here. So I have been an artist for nearly a decade and have been involved in the art community for just as long.
A question I've always wondered: Why do famous artists act like such assholes and look down on the idea of taking commissions from their followers, even when you are willing to pay well and above their price range?
I have been drawing for years, yet admittedly I still do struggle when it comes to outfit designs for my characters. Sometimes I find myself having the idea for it in my head but just not knowing how to go about formulating it on paper. I was struggling with designing an outfit for my fantasy anime girl OC for half a year until I buckled down and decided to commission another artist on social media who specialized in drawing fantasy anime girl OCs. And with just one commission they managed to fix all the mistakes I never would have realized had I not asked them for help.
Now I find myself struggling with drawing a sort of shounen-inspired fantasy outfit for my male OC. And there was a popular artist I found on social media who was offering commissions to draw character sheets for a while, but mysteriously they took down their commissions post not even an hour after they posted it. This is an artist who is in the industry but even when I sent them a DM asking them for simple art advice they were too stuck up to answer. What is it with famous artists acting like they're too prideful to take commissions, when practically EVERY artist starts out their career with doing commissions before they develop the acquired skill to be acknowledged in the industry?
And before any of you guys reply to my thread with a stupid draw m0ar answer, I will tell you that I have already done that. I am practicing the fundamentals everyday, copying drawing random fashion references everyday, even spending hours admiring shounen art that I like and trying to observe their outfits yet still I'm getting fucking nowhere. So there's that.
No. 1940160
>>1940150Popular artists are…
stuck up for not wanting to take commissions? Is that what you're saying, essentially?
No one is obligated to keep their commissions open indefinitely. They may be busy working on other projects and don't need or have time to take them. I wouldn't get caught up in a mood like that. Just keep searching for another artist, there are still tons of amazing ones with commissions open.
>>1939266 I do find this kind of cruel and stupid and sometimes I wonder if it's a way to keep an artist who's new delusional about their pricing so they keep raising it hoping for a commission and then never getting anywhere because it's culling an artist with clearly weaker skill.
It's also just that artists suck at being honest with one another about skill levels. It's all 'positive vibes only' until someone fucks up and tells the harsh truth kek
No. 1940221
>>1940150Bad customers, Nona. After a while, every artist is bound to get hundreds of commissions and they remember the worst ones. Sometimes it will
trigger red flags when seeing certain designs, or it will negatively affect the overall look of their gallery. I've seen it too; communities can spiritually break a lot of artists.
No. 1940251
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>>1940150maybe noone replied to you because you already got your answer there? kek most popular artists dont owe you time if they arent willing to take your commission just move on? why are you assuming they didnt take commissions because theyre strictly busy with their own lives or maybe theyre taking up commissions in their free time until the next official contract work came along? how about posting your character design in a art group and tell people to repaint it? or share it with a friend? hell you can even post it in the m thread for nonnies to give pointers on? there are alot of ways to solve this nona
No. 1940263
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>>1940251I'm not gonna answer you because I already gave my answer on that thread kek.
If they didn't want to do commissions in the first place, then they shouldn't have made an announcement at all and bothered people with hope. Plus I don't like to mingle in a bunch of art communities online because frankly a lot of people are amateur artists and don't know any better themselves. If I want to learn how to make a decent design, then of course I'll want to consult experts in the field of character design and not some twitter beginner artist who's 12
No. 1940282
>>1940150Maybe their slots filled up so they deleted it so people wouldn't ask? Anyways just because they're popular doesn't mean they have to give you anything, if they're in the industry and doing commissions like you day, do you think they have the time or energy to hand hold you through shit? Maybe they don't want to deal with randos jfc.
>>1940263And maybe they shouldn't after reading this very eloquent response of yours
Post your art here >>/m/187240 I wanna see what a decade of your attitude looks like, ad I might give pointers
No. 1940295
I forgot how fucked linking to other threads was, anyways
>>>/m/359886 should work
No. 1940304
>>1940299I'd rather them post in that thread than here and have more people selfposting their mediocre art to critique. There's a reason the other thread was created.
Anyways I've never posted my art on lolcow so how would they know I'm a newbie or not? I agreed that most of it is beginner shit but what can you do?
No. 1940348
>>1940150>>1940263Artists don't owe you anything. They don't owe you help, advice, commissions, nothing, even if you were willing to pay. I've had multiple strangers on social media prodding me to hold their hand through their own projects and then get offended when I'm not interested, I just genuinely don't feel like dedicating an entire project to people
I don't even know which is why I don't take commissions. I work an industry job that pays my bills and do online art on my free time dedicating it to doing only what I like since I'm not looking to make a profit. I'd imagine that to be case for a lot of artists. You calling someone not willing to be a private tutor for you as being "stuck-up" and sperg about how artists are stupid fags who deserve to be replaced by AI speaks volumes of your attitude and why they're not willling to helping you.
No. 1940360
>>1939612thanks
nonny this is rad, i love this style. I tend to draw men as kawaii desune moeblobs but i like my women to be very detailed, the problem is that when i try to draw them together they clash really hard kek
No. 1940362
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>>1940360OMG nona that sounds awesome! I've always liked the moeblob vs detailed/realistic person dynamic but it's always moe girl and man and it's very rare to see it not be weird so the reverse of that sounds so cool. Sorry for sperg kek.
No. 1940499
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>>1940454NTA and I have read James Gurney's Color and Light and I love it, but sometimes I really wish I could find a chinese "how to color" book with stuff like picrel.
No. 1940505
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>>1940499you should look at yuming li's work. i think there are some process videos and tutorials of his uploaded on kemono.party.
No. 1940516
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>>1940501quruiqing
>>1940505I love Yuming Li! I will definitely go looking for those videos, thanks anon.
No. 1940613
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>>1940529>>1940522Kek what other info could you possibly need to be able to tell what's going on, they're just sitting. That lighting would make every figure look like that
No. 1940747
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>>1940348Serious doubt that you're actually from the industry, especially when you're on a site like LC kek. Where's your portfolio? You probably just draw like shit and are talking out of your ass just like 99% of people on LC. Picrel is probably your art
(infighting) No. 1940763
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>>1923397I don't know why but I really like these type of drawings. The fact that they have been made only using a brush as basic as the hard round brush makes them simple but at the same time appealing. I also think that artists who paint using only one brush are very skilled such as pic rel. If you zoom in you can clearly see the brush strokes made with the hard round brush, but when you zoom out the image looks incredible.
No. 1941196
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>>1940860You're so close to getting what the issue with model training is anon. Now imagine if you didn't care or know that the guy was using someone else's work and continued to train the AI on it- it'll now be in the system forever and people will keep stealig from that artist because of it. At least 95% of the art (and writing) used to train AI was stolen without permission and are stuck there for as long as the database remains, that's a little fucked up right?
No. 1941241
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>>1941227
>>1941222
I found one of of the Feed da Booty pieces and found a whole lot of her other works and honestly it's pretty standard shock photography and performance art. Picrel is her artist's statement.
Is it tasteful? Not really. Is it art? Well if Sun Yuan and Peng Yu can play with dead babies and Damien Hirst can put a cow's head in a glass case and they're considered art, I don't see why this can't. It's not good, but that's the state of post Surrealist art so
No. 1941378
>>1941373Yes. That's just performance art for you. Who the fuck would put ice cream in their buttholes for satirical reasons?
That reminds me of that one girl who put spaghetti-o's in her vagina and called it art.
No. 1941495
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Kirbynon has changed me. I thought the second image was Kirby leaking cum from his butt
No. 1941513
>>1941495it says dont repost
nonny you are going to art stealing jail
No. 1941925
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What the fuck is wrong with scrotes?
No. 1941953
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>>1941925Female artists from the 60s and 70s were making cute, colorful, and lovely magazine/podcast art while scrotes were going wild with their degeneracy. I also love Bakshi's movies, but they were pure degeneracy. At least the 80s dark fantasy was much cooler and slightly less degen. If you compare Bakshi's earlier films to his 80s work they are night and day, even if they are still somewhat degen. Also, Robert Crumb is an absolute ancient cow, what an insufferable coomer moid my god. It makes me pissed he outlived Janis Joplin.
No. 1941995
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I hope I'm not the only one following this wonderful artist. Still. In her new form. What a champion. What a """""King""""".
No. 1942153
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>>1942104Omg nonita she's one of my favorite artists, the structure in her forms is goals to me. Now you say it that art does look like the bargain bin version, kek
No. 1942175
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>>1942163Well spotted
nonnie, kek. Her bio says: ‘you can use any pronouns on me’ BUT she’s otherwise pretty chill and non-controversial so I wouldn’t bother digging for milk where there is none. Plus her art is incredible. All round goat.
No. 1942180
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>>1942175(Picrel a cute self-portrait, for good measure)
No. 1942196
>>1942175>>1942180She looks like the artist archetype before it went to hell. Why is she entertaining pronouns? Other than that she seems to have decent skills and might be fun to hang out with based on her art. I agree no milk here.
>>1942163Can you tell who is male or female based on their art style? I’ve found it’s easiest in illustration/comic work but harder with traditional art.
No. 1942371
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>>1942175billie eillish maxxing
>>1942196i can’t really point out anything in particular with traditional artwork, but if it’s boring, bland, and activates nothing in your mind but is constantly praised as “high art” in art classes and academia (with the exception of female-created art that’s obviously shown for education and awareness) then it’s definitely made by a man. artwork made by a woman makes you go “fuck yeah!”, you can tell it’s made with soul even if it’s completely ugly as shit and not palatable or enjoyable to anyone or most people like for ex. vaginal art and 60s-70s feminist body photography. like look at picrel, this ugly shit does not make me wanna go fuck yeah, it just makes me think this moid couldn’t be bothered to draw decent pictures of humans because he’s lazy. oh and also if they rip off styles from other women and minorities like this asshole has probably done kek. if they’re culture vultures or create a “style” where all they do is mass-create and mass copy like andy warhol, it’s definitely a moid. if it’s mass-produced, overly palatable to trash people’s taste kind of like modern furry/porn art or those repetitive, boring looking portraits they used to make of old royals and politicians it’s by a man. if it’s overly sensationalist, controversial and hypersexualized to the point of tasteless and absurd parody it’s most likely made by a man. i’m sure i’m gonna get made fun of because this isn’t traditional traditional but traditional-modern art ig. if the man is naked, masculine, unrealistically attractive like in renaissance statues where they try to imitate greco-roman aesthetics, it’s made by male faggots who were channeling porn into church-mandated art because they likely would have been stoned for being outright gay. TIFs don’t usually make shit most people enjoy or want to like, kind of reminds me of fujos and what they like and why they like it which puts most people off. most of it is just based off of intuition
No. 1942379
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>>1942371I 100% agree, I feel like you can really tell the difference in the two versions of Judith Beheading Holofernes, you can tell which was made by a woman and which was by a man
No. 1942381
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nonnas, would you still buy a drawing tablet even if you already have an ipad? Picrel is one of the models in my list since apple pencil can get expensive. I used third party stylus but it doesnt have pressure sensitivity. I'm also running out of storage so I might as well switch to pc.
i wanna know your opinions and recommendations
No. 1942778
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Thoughts on littlethunder? She's like if the ig pinupgirl artists were 100x more skilled. I love her traditional art, but I'm not a fan of the babyfaced sexy girls as the sole suject, personally.
No. 1943009
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I think I’m retarded because I struggle to draw hands facing out towards the viewer. They look backwards. Looking down at hands makes sense, I can draw that, but when a hand is facing out or holding an object it looks backwards due to thumb placement.
No. 1943153
>>1942585>>1942527any models you would recommend? wacom is out of my budget and i'm not a professional artist (yet). i'm fine with non-display models.
i know there's tons of lists out there but i figured i just ask here instead.
also, was there any artbook threads ever made? is it even allowed?
No. 1943180
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LOVE me some Yuuya. But holy shit on toast her anatomy is so hilariously and laughably bad.
(sorry for text box covering the mess; it's a VN)
No. 1943184
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>>1943180samefag Bootlegged from the actual game myself for its full glory.
No. 1943251
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>>1943234NTA but jesus fuck you can't read, maybe you should get a Reading Eggs account. Anon was saying that hundreds of well established and popular artists have never touched anime or weeb-shit, online and offline. Literally look at your country's art gallery website and check out the featured exhibitions, you'll very rarely get weeby art.
No. 1943334
>>1928553I want to turn all of my rough-draft stories into mangas, I would like to become so good I can be able to live off only by drawing and to even see my stories turned into animated series one day. Now I’m in university so I can’t really dedicate to art all the time I want, but once I get a degree I plan into entering a proper art school in my country and to finally walk on the right path.
Also, I want to heal my inner child by learning how to draw dogs (One Hundred and One Dalmatians I love you) and other animals with the old Disney art style, because my little self loved those movies but I still feel intimidated by drawing like that for some reason
No. 1943336
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>>1922910>>1942778In all honesty I find her newer work so dull. Her older art had so much more variety and style, now it's just babyfaced sexy girls and pinups. You'd probably never guess that the art in picrel was made by the same person
No. 1943346
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>>1942778I haven't looked at her recent work but I know her for her album cover art for this Hong Kong band and remembered liking it a lot, but if you just showed me your pic as a sample of her art I probably would have written her off kek.
No. 1943428
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>>1943336I agree. I haven't looked at her social media in a long time and on insta it's just a bunch of posts about an illustration of a girl in one of those school bathing suits with a bloody nose. This was the first art I ever saw by her over a decade ago and while she's always been kind of coomery with stripper-themed art there was more variety
No. 1943461
>>1943251the way they posted that was definitely snarky but I guess I’m the only non-autist who likes being in this thread
>>1943273anime (japtoons) is not high art despite all of the weebs from the previous editions of these threads bitching and arguing about western artists vs japanese artists implying japanese artists are above social justice or “wokeness” when they embrace trannies and leftoid hypersexuality. they have the same cancerous shit and same bland, repetitive storylines and oversexualization as western comics. at least in the west they properly market their obvious child-coded comics and animation to actual children and not using kid aesthetics to garner in a bunch of japanese nonces to give them money. that’s why anime is so popular here especially since after 2020, there really is no difference between western and japanese only the separation of the seas and the language barriers
>>1943274learn to read and learn to have fun
No. 1943465
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>>1942778Haven't followed her in years so I checked out her new stuff. It's a shame: I love her use of color and she's definitely skilled, but the subject matter is so much more coomery now. She's always danced around that line, like with that voyeuristic set of girls lounging in their apartments, but the blatancy in her new work is pretty off putting. I'd still cite her as an inspiration off of technique though
No. 1943472
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How can I get over my perfectionism when it comes to art? Drawing takes me days because I have to redraw the same lines over and over.
No. 1943495
>>1943461We've already had this discussion several, several times in past threads, we even had a short version of it before in this thread, you're not bringing anything new you just sound like a illiterate tard. We know Japan is culturally gross and outdated and backwards in many ways, the only reason we compare modern Western art to Japanese art is because East Asian artists (maybe except Korea) have better drive to create better artwork because of their culture, it's really not that deep. And Western writers put their fetishes in "child-coded" animation and comics all the time, John fucking K and Totally Spies are a good example. Also I think Japan has better marketing than you think it does, something like Poppee the Performer seems like a kid's show from the outset but was marketed to adults and put on a very late timeslot, and that's a very tame anime imo. Plus the different manga magazines directed to kids. Not saying lolishit or any of the gross fetishy misogynistic commonplace shit isn't represhensible and shouldn't be banned by the UN (god I hope it does) but you sound very ignorant for how hard you're raging.
Also you're the one inserting your weird shit in unrelated conversation and using the word "japtoons", a term I have only heard from Blue's Clues VHS collecting male autists.
No. 1943513
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>>1943468She wrote that in a snarky tone. You don’t have to gaslight when you can just reread what she wrote and it was passive aggressive as hell
>>1943495>muh ignorant >muh red herringsToo much yapping and bad examples. You can pick out a few cases of adult sexual kinks in children cartoons and tv shows but there’s a whole genre dedicated to sexualizing little girls and little boys like shotacon/lolicon. And offensive terms about Japanese people predates autistic men owning Blue Clues VHS tapes, it’s almost like I can’t use a certain word without it being against the rules, try again nonners.
No. 1943529
>>1943513NTA but Honestly I think you're just racist. You can find those examples yourself. Western media and JapaneSe media for the most part are lead by men, a lot of things get through or get codified in that is gross, dangerous to children, loli/pedo crap, etc. But for you to write off an entire side of the art word with some incredibly groundbreaking and interesting art because you think every Japanese person alive is a degen just means you're an ignorant racist and that's all on you. Anons have repeatedly stated that Japanese art /East Asian art is not the end all be all and not at all free of problems.
Expand your horizons, that's on you. We shouldn't waste time in this thread going back and fourth with someone who's so keen on being an absolute close minded retard.
No. 1943580
>>1943565My post got swiped somehow and I can't be bothered writing it all out again, but yeah it's literally just vanilla pinup and not worth this stupid sperg. Bland and appealing to coomers, sure but that type of pinup has existed since pre-ww1 in the West so it's not this new "problem".
>>1943564Agreed. Speaking of which, I've just gotten back into doing en plein air watercolour studies and I'd highly reccommend going to your nearest body of water with a sketchbook and palette, it's super relaxing and it's really cool seeing how the light interacts with the water and trying to replicate it.
No. 1943836
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>>1942778I say this as someone who likes skilled pinups/coom art like pic rel, but this is boring as shit. She just slapped some generic thot in a swimsuit on a beach.
No. 1943886
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I hate how flat my art feels. I love to see art like picrel that feels like it has weight to it despite not being super realistic.
No. 1944417
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>>1943886i'm not an expert or anything but what gave the characters depth is the way the lines followed the curvature of a circle if that makes sense (like how the eyelid follows the curve an eyeball). you could try draw a sphere/circle and using it as a guideline to how lines interact with shape.
No. 1944450
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How tf do you even make something like this?
No. 1945006
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>>1938350analyze picrel. you could see this irl, in that people of his occupation do wear this type of clothing, but the color scheme is unique and unnatural while also being simple. the silhouette is simple and recognizable.
No. 1945172
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what kind of sketchbook do i need to paint something like this and for the paper to endure it?
i dont really understand the paper differences
No. 1945236
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I have the worst luck with enjoying artists I swear to god. I remember I started this webcomic called Parallax as a teen and offhandedly decided to look up the artist, and apparently they've deleted all their shit online because they drew porn of child characters. Do any of you keep up with any webcomics?
No. 1945246
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>>1945236Used to. Was really into it until one of the characters was revealed to be a literal transgendered zombie and I dropped it.
No. 1946106
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>>1945172Royal Talens sketchbooks are affordable and great for this. I use mine for gouache, acrylic, oil pastels and even watercolors, and it takes everything. They also come in many different sizes and colors.
No. 1946153
>>1946131the OP mentions both AI generated art and trashy art trends are allowed to be dicussed here, also /m/'s thread centered is more of a image centered thread.
i guess i could try and post results of my model since by the logic of many people that wouldn't be my art right?
No. 1946178
>>1946116Why are AI users so fucking soulless, you're the same as the weirdo who used Kim Jung Gi's art to make a model immediately after his death was announced. Can you not appreciate existing art for what it is? Do you really need more by any means necessary, even if the result won't have the same intention or meaning? You have no respect for art and if you know it's unethical then why even ask, seems like you do see a problem in it but don't care.
>>1946165Agreed, it's not like anyone here will have tips for that or something kek
No. 1946800
>>1946153Yeah, meaning anti or neutral AI discussion, if you look back on prior discussion in these threads, the most positive comment about it you'll see is "it could be good for brain storming ideas". We don't like AI images here and never have.
Anyways what a bizarre circumstance, just imagine
>Some guy: "Oh man I wonder where this notebook I had went, it had all my shitty middle school drawings in them. I must have thrown it out or something.">Meanwhile, Allied Mastercomputer-anon: "Yess, another artist's work to feed into the machine. Instead of just looking at the artwork and appreciate it for what is it like a normal person (which is probably not that great because it's art made by a middle schooler) I will produce more and more copies of it! And then I will tell the nonas on the artist salt thread who have already told me to fuck off!" No. 1946994
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I find that "pretending you're a reposter so your art gets more likes" trend so soulless lol
No. 1946997
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What do you think about adopts? I thought about buying them, but I don’t have a reason for it. Most artists have a policy where you can’t use them commercially which defeats most purposes of buying one. This may be bitchy but when I see an adopt I like I just steal colour schemes and pieces of it i like KEK it’s not like the original artist can do anything about it besides seethe behind the screen. It does seem like a good way to make quick money besides commissions though, I see generic adopts going for some good change and there are high bids for the unique ones. I hate drawing for other people and I like designing original characters but never have a use for them, so I’m not complaining. I thought it was a deviantart donutsteel furry thing but see I some cool and appealing designs on toyhouse. I’m thinking about selling them. Do any of you nonas sell or buy adopts?
No. 1947082
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>>1946997I think of them like virtual trading cards, the popularity of the person who made them (casin0s, picrel, is a good example) and/or the amount of art you get out of a adopt the more it'll be worth. I think the people buying them are dumb, but I see the appeal and I used to sell designs that I'd shit out in a afternoon for a quick buck.
No. 1947088
>>1946997All of them that have some "finished" clean quality bear the same artstyle nowadays. All neotenous anthro, very funamusea-like. I have an old toyhouse that I use every now and then to find actual monster enjoyers, but a lot of the time they end up being a deranged tif who draws herself as a short fridge-built edgy scruffy furry with titscars and a pierced tongue constantly out.
Still yet to find a cool woman to talk about monsters with.
No. 1947354
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Confession; never have I at any point thought varying lineart weight made the art "better". It's only ever been just as good/bad, just with slightly different lines. Sometimes I even think it looks clunkier and more distracting in the supposely so much better "after". I feel like it's one of those things that everyone is told is the "correct" way to do it so everyone repeats it without questioning it, but real life doesn't even have lineart so it's not like it's a true "fact". It's just a different style to me.
No. 1947396
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>>1947354I wonder if you people even draw sometimes because some takes itt are extremely bizzarre. Line weight isn't an absolute for all artstyles but the way it works will make a difference to how a picture feels. Look at Micaiah's hair and hands, they wouldn't look as good without the difference in line weight.
No. 1947399
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>>1947354i dont know why westerners parrot this, japanese artists tend to have clearn consistent lines and it looks miles better
No. 1947413
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>>1947410its hisashi eguchi
No. 1947416
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>>1947405nta but are you blind? the weighting is subtle but its there
No. 1947425
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Kek
No. 1948066
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>>1947354I love when art has lineart variation. It can really help make an artwork pop or give it more depth. Art doesn’t /need/ line weight, but there’s an understated beauty to it that can enhance the piece (if you know what you’re doing). The variation between weights doesn’t have to be exaggerated either, it can be subtle too- like when sketching with a pencil and you put more pressure on the areas of focus, or when you draw long confident strokes that taper out at the end.
>>1947399>i dont know why westerners parrot this, japanese artists tend toKek, just say you prefer the style like a normal person and not like a weeb. I can think of a bunch of western art that uses no line weight variation and looks worse for it. Look at any modern cartoon, or original ppg vs reboot ppg, or “tfw ya style develops” lol. Not saying lack of line variation is bad, but turning it into a west vs east thing is just plain nonsense. Picrel is all japanese artists.
No. 1948093
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>>1946997I love the concept of adopts. Like other nonas said; they're like trading cards. Some people put more love into them than others. I really love furry desins like picrel because they seem to have more variation in body type and stuff between artists than the human designs do. People who pay out the ass for designs or participate in design auctions are fucking retarded and they keep artists fed. Let them live I guess kek
>>1947088 >All of them that have some "finished" clean quality bear the same artstyle nowadays. All neotenous anthro, very funamusea-like.This is a problem I don't really see with furries. Nowadays, everyone draws like Cookiehana and I think it's fine. More eye candy for me.
No. 1948124
>>1947082>picrelAnyone else that was active on toyhouse that remembers the insane drama that went down a couple years ago about this artist and their friends? Something about them being a nazi kek, I didn't bother investigating when it happened but it felt like the community just imploded over it.
>>1946994This is so fucking retarded, every artist I see doing this has to type it out in the fakest sounding way possible. No reposters are actually asking 'who drew this,' and giving yourself asspats (like picrel saying 'WHAAAT?', seriously kek?) in the process is just so cringe. I bet it doesn't even increase reach like they say it does, I've seen no proof it works.
No. 1948167
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>>1945172>>1946106This. But if you're going to use watercolors, do not use more than 3-4 layers unless you don't mind the paper waving.
I also found these mixed media/watercolors of Canson and they're a gold mine.
No. 1948183
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>>1948159She means post Adventure Time western cartoons
No. 1948228
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>>1948124Kek what the fuck is this situation, I thought casin0s left because of inappropriate jokes with minors on discord but this "nazi friend" thing is news to me. It's all archived on kiwifarms in the closed species thread but it seems like stupid kids blowing things out of proportion.
No. 1948286
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>>1948159>cutting the very next part where I mention a cartoon with different line weights that’s not EEnEAnon, please. Varied line weight isn’t that rare in cartoons. I may have over-generalized using the word “modern”(moon girl and modern mickey shorts for instance vary line weight), but I still believe that the type of lineart on the right is very overused in cartoons. Not every cartoon looks bad with it, but many cartoons with it look bland and sterile.
No. 1948335
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>>1946997Honestly I love adopts. They
trigger that childish part of my brain that's obsessed with collecting and bright colors, I understand the appeal of them. If I was looking to make money off my art I would sell some myself as well.
No. 1948446
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>>1947663 >>1947354yep you are right, bear pic is a bad example. Picrel from Shiyoon Kim has both the logic of line representing ambient occlusion, and a looseness and expressiveness that lineweights can bring.
No. 1948457
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>>1947399Because the most prominent line based art proliferated on the internet is manga, and not pop art. Even the example you gave has great control of lineweights, albeit subtle. That image would look way different if the lineweights were truly uniform.
No. 1948474
>>1947354Varied line weight can’t save a bad drawing but IMO it can add appeal. I agree with
>>1948446 Shiyoon Kim’s work is a good example of this.
No. 1948718
>>1946997I honestly never understood the appeal. My friend has told me for years "you should make adoptables" but I honestly don't make the slightest sense in it. I'm not even that desperate for money and I feel like I'm scamming people with it. Can't you create your own characters and their designs by yourself?
>>1947433Also this kek.
No. 1948729
>>1948491i would probably do this with untouched AI outputs.
also what's an "adopt" is it like drawings of babies or something?
No. 1948776
>>1948773sadly they all turn back and go away when they find out i do AI
Good. As they should. Cringe.
No. 1948806
>>1948785don't do it
nonnie, try discord or something, also im sure a lot of other game devs might be more open to engage once you show your game, right?
No. 1948849
>>1948818This ties into a pervasive frustration I have with the art and writing community, that everything seems to come back to marketing yourself and "building a brand." I understand that many people are trying to make a career off this so that advice is valuable to them but damn.
Like I'm making a graphic novel series at the moment, and it seems like the majority of advice from fellow creators I've seen online comes back to "publishers don't want this!!" or "this will get you more readers!!" or "this (artstyle/trope) is overdone/cliche!!" Like.. I just want to make art I enjoy and tell a good story. For myself mostly, but if others enjoy it that's great too.
Someone even got angry at me for putting the story online for free because it "brings down the value of artists and makes people think we shouldn't get paid for our work." I've also seen fellow creators strip their work of its individuality in order to make it more palatable to publishers and/or followers. I almost want to say would it be so bad to do this as a hobby with a separate day-job instead of killing yourself to fit into this box ?
Maybe my memory is bad but it seems like 15-ish years ago it wasn't this bad. I remember oldschool dA where it genuinely felt like communities of hobbyists who just love making art, not people clambering over eachother trying to build a brand and market themselves
No. 1948859
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anyone come across this? I just saw this on my feed and don't know this artist until now
No. 1948874
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>>1948859kind wild to see the accussations of owning and sharing CSAM be on the same doc as this
No. 1948876
>>1948859She drew shota when she herself was underage and, yeah, she often draws some mild edgelord stuff. It's getting annoying how every 6 months they try to cancel her for something, meanwhile it only boosts her popularity. If she was a moid drawing same shit but with female characters, literally no one would give a shit
>>1948873she's a woman and the profile picture is of some random man
No. 1949161
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im so confused, does sam lie about how long it takes him to make these? this one says 2 hours including a bunch of other drawings. i understand he always preaches using big brush strokes to convey alot using a little effort basically, but some drawings i jusr cant believe it. does he not experiment at all? i guess its because the only time he strays from a reference is the face lol
No. 1949317
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>>1949260Stygians in general
No. 1949331
>>1948849No, your memory's not bad. There were definitely more spaces where people could simply enjoy doing their art as something fun rather than brand building/clout/gateway to pro work/etc. (forums and oekaki boards come to mind as primary examples along with webrings and personal pages)
I would argue that dA as a centralizing system could be one possible data point the eventual decline of individual art hobbyist spaces and a greater push toward marketing/branding because things like showing view counts, favorites, links to other artists/friendlists, and other networking tools inevitably pushes a community into a popularity contest. But yeah, probably less so at the very beginning as you say and without the bastardization of a non-artist community.
Other data points likely include Youtube (initial business model was user generated content before becoming advertising/selling data), socmed in general as mentioned by other anon, personal branding/productivity/side hustles into main hustles being a thing in startup culture in parallel to centralization (which bled into everyone else's lives with gig work), and among people I knew at the time, sakimichan's initial patreon numbers back in 2013 making them all collectively believe that they were leaving money on the table by not somehow monetizing their artwork.
And there's also the aspect of what you're talking about in regard to your graphic novel - if your work is at a tier that's good enough to get freelance or commissions at a range that other artists desire, then it becomes impossible for them to understand why you wouldn't monetize immediately.
I personally can't wait to delete all of my art accounts once my school loans are paid off and I don't have to pretend to enjoy shit like freelance or commissions.
No. 1949354
>>1949161agree with
>>1949178The only detail in this piece is in the face and sword hilt. Simple pose, simple background, simple design and the same face he always does. I could totally believe he did this in 2 hours.
No. 1949421
>>1949161Like other anons said, instathot faces are probably muscle memory for him atp and 2 hours isn't insane for a blocky or sketchy painting. Some experienced artists are just really fast.
I love the artist in vidrel who posts streams of her art in real time, unlike speedpaints you can see exactly how much rendering and coloring she does in under an hour and I want to be like her so bad. She constantly cranks out multiple really nice drawings in sub 2 hours. She often uses a really boring art program from 2007 and just has a screenless Wacom and doesn't use very many layers. No filters and color correction, just using whatever look good. Anyone who likes oekaki style would probably learn something from her videos and she also makes a ton of drawings where she references interesting looking objects and makes a humanized design out of it.
No. 1949487
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What are some fun artists that inspire you? i am so tired of the internet being littered by sexy instagram faced women standing in a white background, i need something fun to look at that inspires me to break out of artblock.
No. 1949498
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>>1949487For me, I love Oliwa's arts. Her packaging for her items, her colours and style feels whimsical and surreal that I enjoy.
No. 1949572
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>>1949487for me Masako Tomii or tomidoron on shitter her use of color is phenomenal i love the extreme saturation though i know it isnt for everyone
No. 1949578
File: 1712198158015.jpg (1.17 MB, 3072x4096, 1000027743.jpg)
>>1949487I absolutely adore rudebeetle, her art is so dreamy and beautiful. If I could draw like her you couldn't tell me shit kek
No. 1949748
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It makes me sad that modern anime is so fucking boring looking. I miss when it looked more like a cartoon with insane gigantic bug eyes, gravity defying physics and retarded outfits. It was so much more colorful and creative too. I also hate when old school artists, like for example pic rel, ditch their old school style for a modern, more generic one. I know art evolves yada yada, but it's sad to see because the modern anime aesthetic is just so plain and boring. I dont even like yurishit but i can get past it to admire the wonderful art in this artist's 90s works, meanwhile i cant do the same for her modern work because its just generic and run of the mill plain anime art. Sorry for autistic rant.
No. 1949890
>>1948874This is literally always how these “callouts” go, serious accusations next to shit like “they also drew fanart of a
problematic pairing once uwu”
No. 1949966
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>>1949457yeah his art is just the same neotenous asian face. all of his art is literally just asianfying existing girls. i also really dont understand the sudden plague of artists just drawing over a reference, basically a 1:1 aside from their art style and maybe the character and not even mentioning the use of a reference. like i would feel weird if a picture of me got asianfied and i see it on instagram with 1 bazillion likes. if any big artist did this even once like 5 years ago it would be seen as dishonest but now its the norm and formula to instagram fame because its how you churn out art quickly. thats how sam makes his drawing under 2 hours. just drawing over a photo + the face he can draw in his sleep. is it just me that finds this new standard about references weird? like yeah weve been doing this for ages like still-life but thats not the same since still-life is already understood to be a replica. sam is very shallow and calculated
No. 1950261
>>1949966lmao, at least he is being honest, also
>SamDoesMeni don't think that's him.
No. 1950265
File: 1712244308179.jpg (51.19 KB, 450x541, proportion.jpg)
>>1950144depending on the age you want them to look and what style you draw, maybe try making them around 5 heads tall. If you aren't sure how try googling a character or drawing proportions tutorial. Its not a very hard concept once you get familiar with it.
No. 1950267
>>1948859why do i feel like shes been mentioned here before? also
>this person is transphobic af and drew how Russia rapes ukraine in anime styleyaoi porn aside maybe focus on the possession of csam more? how the fuck shes not convicted yet when in russia you cant even talk about not liking putin?
No. 1950272
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>>1950261I checked and i think it is him? this is too much effort for a troll account. God what a coomer faggot. Also ''samdoesmen'' sounds like the name of a gay bottom whore.
No. 1950299
>>1950291Dobson would have 100% trooned out if his parents didnt force him to get off the internet
>male 'feminist'>deviant fetishes>yurifag>fat and ugly failmale>used to larp as a teenage lesbian into inflationsome inflationfag even made a documentary about his gross history about larping as a teenage girl for his sick fetish
No. 1950455
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i love the artist range murata and i always want to study his work to improve my own, but the way he draws men vs. women is fucking horrid. she can't draw an actual woman to save his life, they all look like underaged blob-faced girls, while the men look semi-realistic. such a waste of talent.
No. 1950479
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>>1950464dont worry
nonny part of being an animefag is accepting that (most) the artists you will be creeps or pedos. Its painful. I like watanabe akio and as far as i know he has never confessed to something like that, but hes a lolifag.
No. 1950604
>>1950595nta but
>Japanese moidalways remember that japan outlawed actual cp in 2014 and has let go actual molesters and blaming it on the child
victims No. 1950683
>>1950619Kinda but the thing is he just didn't have cp but he
commissioned it from Germany and said it was for entertainment purposes and when the trial started the judge apologised to him and said this shouldn't hurt his career and he only payed a fine for it and got to keep his career.
No. 1950713
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>>1950706i checked her twitter and all she draws is ugly giga roided worm men. I dont know how she manages to draw men so unappealing.
No. 1950720
>>1950713Her art is just too overly rendered in certain areas. It's like the faces are so simple and generic anime boys, meanwhile everywhere else has so much attention. I mean, it's easy to draw a buff hot anime boy with the same color palette as a recognizable character and get popular.
>>1950717It's not "roided" to me either, just ignore it kek they mean buff or fit
No. 1950722
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>>1950716i am laughing my ass off at how retarded her moids are. They used pic rel as proof she draws shota, but she just has a fetish for freakishly tall moids. What a fucking disgusting artstyle.
>>1950717>>1950720oh my god not this everytime, its just a joke stop getting offended on behalf of cartoons
No. 1950741
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>>1950729imagine if moids got this offended over other men calling their waifus too fat or something. Its a joke, stop being a pearl clutcher over anons making fun of your pixels. I called her art roidpigs because they have freakish manwha proportions. The guy on the left looks so fucking retarded.
>>1950737>getting offended over moids getting insulted on lolcow of all placesyou are pathetic, who cares
No. 1950762
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No. 1950789
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Is it possible to make digital art look traditional or am i doomed to get used to the glossy plastic look of digital? there is an artist i like that gets the style i want, but i have no fucking idea how to do it.
No. 1950807
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Basically, I've read Astrocat's response to this situation that, again, has been regurgitated so many times, it's not even funny at this point. Her having this one csam image was the only instance of her actually sharing something like that, and she sent it to her friends because she was shocked that some random dude sent it to her. Check picrel, it's an excerpt from the explanation post. Notice the lack of any context to this image. It was just cropped to make her look worse. She was a 15-year-old retard, this shit happens. She doesn't own and never had these tons of csam stuff like they claim. It was a photoshoped screenshot of her fellow edgy teen friend saying that. But since people hate her for her edgy humor and often weird takes, but she is not actually interested in children.
You can read her response to these allegations here:
https://vk.com/@lickmyspoon-statiaIn short, it's just another random female artist hated for being offensive and retarded as a teen. Nothing new.
No. 1950870
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>>1950272This is cracking me up.
>>1949966He barely draws the women as humans tbh. They are a mix of anime and disney characters at best.
No. 1950884
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>>1950830NTA but to save some nonas some time, here's the full VK caps completely Google translated. Excuse the messy censoring, my image editor wouldn't let me zoom in
1/4
No. 1950888
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>>1950789i mean it’s definitely possible but you would have to go the illustration route. one of my faves that does that mixed media mid-century look (even though it’s kind of modern) is jeluto, picrel
No. 1950964
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Ang (disgraced animator) is back posting alien related schizo vids on her YouTube. This time she channels one of her alien boyfriends in her intergalactic polycule
No. 1951090
>>1950884>>1950889>>1950899>>1950940holy fuck when nonnas were saying she was a edgelord they werent kidding honestly its good that she wasnt the one who spread the cp but holy fuck was she 2edgy4u no matter how young and edgey you are you reap what you sow.. i honestly couldve forgiven her if it were some little edgy yaoi art people got offended over but i wasn't expecting ACTUAL beast art among her other accusations (you cant tell me fucking a dog is funny and totally ok) and her anger against people being rusophobic is to mald and seeth and put out stupid statements as for her drawing porn when she was underage i could understand that kids go through puberty and handle it in different ways
and her being transphobic is the only based thing she'll ever do , i mean even if she were young does that excuse the drawing beast shit as a joke? no and i dont mean that in a fucking twitterfag sense drawing illegal porn is still illegal. shes the same age as me and even i understood what i posted could trace back to me
No. 1951095
>>1948798Ofc no one will recommend because there’s barely a community for women but try these.
From Samyam’s channel, she’s a woman that makes videos on games including making them.
https://discord.com/invite/B9bjMxjThere’s some radfem gaming server from Ovarit and I remember a few of them got together to make a game
There’s some other all-lesbian gaming server from a AyL but you’ll have to look up the creator on reddit
>inb4 troonsMembers complain about them enough to keep the server dominated by lesbians or at least women.
I’ll dump some other gamedevs that you reach out to or just ask around in their servers.
@comettailinn
https://discord.com/invite/moonana@gazisj on insta
https://discord.com/invite/cCRV9grfAHI think @aunty_games is a woman
@sondering Studio
I hope someone can suggest more
No. 1951099
>>1949161He didn’t even bother erasing sketch lines, look at her hand
Given how often he posts I honestly believe him. To him this style is probably like fast food, he figured out what people care about the most and just min maxed his work
No. 1951112
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>>1949748I like this 2000s manga style
No. 1951147
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>>1950196if you think ross and sam are on the same level you are deranged. Ross was a prodigy who chose not to get churned and burnt by the industry and decided to build his own empire. If he went the path, he would be regarded as a legendary concept artist today. Won't stand for Ross slander here
No. 1951163
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>>1951112Kitchen Princess was an amazing read as a kid, kek. Wonder how it holds up now.
No. 1951170
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>>1951167look at the interesting stuff then
No. 1951179
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>>1951167>>1951159Someone hasn't seen American McGee's Alice concept art before
No. 1951182
>>1950786I do all of my art on desktop, I'm used to CSP's animation studio and the way it works but I don't like how I can't freely make layers and keyframes. CSP is finnicky like that, the only positive is CSP lets you animate with any brushes you have already in your materials and brushes catalogue.
>>1950789It's definitely possible. I've done it before. If you want to properly emulate traditional you'll have to emulate everything that goes into a traditional looking artwork digitally. This means looking for and using, brushes, pens, pencils, and erasers that emulate the textured traditional medium you're going for. You can also scan in a traditional paper medium (sketch, watercolor, canvas etc.) to use as both a textured background and a textured overlay. Learn to use filters to give off a more scanned. A good cheat is to print out the image, crumble it slightly, wet it lightly, roll it out, and re-scan it to make it more grainy looking finished. You can tint the paper in this process with a spray containing diluted coffee or tea to aid in this. Depending on the style of traditional work you'll have to play around with the aforementioned parameters. One thing you can also do is try to not use digital tools too heavily, don't ctrl+z instead use a textured brush to erase your lines and for coloring, do everything on one singular layer.
No. 1951183
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>>1951179another for funsies
No. 1951199
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>>1951184he's an art center grad. Worked in the industry for a bit then quit to pursue acting. Came back and started a yt channel which I guess better fulfilled his passions and interests.
No. 1951256
>>1951170this is boring, generic, cluttered artstation tier garbage.
>>1951179this is cool, older concept art was really nice. Arstation and space marines ruined everything.
No. 1951264
>>1951256I get what you mean and I mostly agree, but that concept art was made in the last ~3 years and was posted on Artstation, kek.
(Sorry for samefagging mods)
No. 1951266
>>1951243Noone is going to crucify you on a cross made of styluses
nonnie if you like digital over traditional. Traditional is better for soothing the artistic urge but digital is easy on the pocket and there are apps you can use now to mimic traditional art corel painter,infinite painter and csp.dont worry too much about it and have fun with every medium!
No. 1951274
File: 1712291987916.png (4.5 MB, 2118x2062, antique.png)
>>1951256another reductive take. What does artstation tier mean? What is generic/boring about it? Any examples? Why does it matter if art is older or newer? Articulate your arguement better
No. 1951301
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>>1951274you are dense, it's just my opinion. I think it's ugly and boring. I fucking despise the extremely saturated colors most artstation garbage has. It's just so safe and commercial, you will never see this type of composition on concept art. It's not meant to generate emotions, it's just meant to be a portfolio. It's why its always some pretty overrendered woman looking at the camera or some space marine, it's just boring if you aren't interested in the industry.
>inb4 you think pic rel is ugly or whatevergod for you, it's also your opinion. I just dont like static portraits of scifi women or over saturated backgrounds of china.
No. 1951314
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>>1951301I completely agree, there might be some more interesting or dynamic things on ArtStation but for the most part it's very generic and soulless to the point where "ArtStation style" is a recognizable term.
No. 1951318
File: 1712293875842.png (2.25 MB, 806x2396, jaime.png)
>>1951301very well, you can have your opinion, I can have mine. But you are narrowminded with you take on concept art. I don't think that painting is ugly at all, I like that you like it actually. My point is there is diversity in concept art/art in general or whatever platform you decide to pigeonhole. If you don't like static portraits of scifi women or over saturated backgrounds of china then ignore them, and look for what you do like instead of complaining. Bring light to the art you want more people to see. Who is the artist of your pricrel? What do you like about it?
No. 1951343
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>>1951318all of these are boring as fuck, they look so static
No. 1951358
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>>1951343plenty of criticism devolving into "boring" and "static". What do you like about your picrel that doesn't feel that way for you? What can people look into and explore further if then share a similar taste to you?
No. 1951384
File: 1712296443309.png (2.74 MB, 1551x1983, mike.png)
>>1951362that is fair, but don't try to hide behind your baseless criticisms and act as if you have any real understanding of the art you are looking at. If you cannot even articulate or explain your usage of static, commercial, safe, etc, you are simply parroting jargon you haven't grasped. Devolving into slurs is tasteless and your inability to appreciate art outside of your own narrow taste is no different from the proverbial beginner artist who only dabbles withing the genre of anime art.
No. 1951392
>>1951384I could give you a long ass explanation as to why artstation crap is ugly but you would just try to refute it by posting more ugly garbage. I cant believe you saw me post
>>1951343 and
>>1951301 and posted anime girls fighting with light sabers, that thing is so fucking tacky it looks like desktop background of some normie LOL streamer.
No. 1951399
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>>1951392I would rather see a long ass explanation about why you like the art you've posted. At this point I have no interest in your artstation take, none of the art has been taken from artstation anyway.
Not that this will change your opinion, but the lightsaber art was done for Studio Mir for Star Wars: Visions if anybody is interested.
Don't have more to add to this discussion, but I hope some others out there enjoyed some of the art shared here. Particularly the Dean Cornwell you posted. Falls in line well the with Tom Lovell at the start of the thread. Plenty to be learnt from and awed by these master painters.
No. 1951415
File: 1712299035986.png (4.01 MB, 1500x2880, kenny.png)
>>1951402I'm not trying to prove you wrong, simply attacking your narrowmindedness. Art was done for Studio Mir for any anime short btw.
Any images shared are not any particular refute, simply sharing some art I like and showing diversity without attacking anyones interests or tastes.
You lack the awareness to realise how tunnel-visioned you are, making fun of "LOL normies" not realising you've pigeonholed yourself into your own caricature, lacking ability to articulate your thoughts, and only regurgitate jargon and takes you've heard before.
No. 1951420
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You both sound autistic but the concept art anon sounds even more so, using Reddit vernacular makes you seem annoying and I was originally on your side. Plus, your taste in concept art is not very good at all and proves the slop anon right.
No. 1951424
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>>1951420what are some of your favourite productions and concept artists?
No. 1951426
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>>1951420Modern concept artists can only do three types of environments
>fantasy>fantasy but chinese>cyberpunk neon colorsthey are incapable of coming up with something more interesting. To be fair, they also don't need to because to be a concept artist you need to follow trends and settle for the safest, most commonly appealing with normalfags style. They would rather die than go with something more experimental that might filter tasteless normalfags. Something like tekkonkinkreet would scare them because there isn't a single same-faced pretty woman or photobashed cyberpunk building in sight.
No. 1951429
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>>1951424Over the Garden Wall, American McGee's Alice (Madness Returns and Asylum Design Bible), Serial Experiments Lain, Neon Gensis Evangelion, The Goblins of Labyrith by Brian Froud (picrel), Pan's Labyrithn, and I'm just naming some of the art books I own physically or as a pdf. Not techinically concept art but Dinotopia also knocks most modern concept art out of the park.
No. 1951456
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>>1951453Robot on the Road, 2015 short film
No. 1951461
>>1951420maybe I have a more diverse taste and can see merit and things to learn from more.
Once again, all a matter of taste, who's to say who is right or wrong? Only dicussion and openness can lead to any meaningful takeaways.
No. 1951478
>>1951461I just spent that entire time running around after livestock and you're still talking like a Redditor, cut that out. "Only dicussion and openness can lead to any meaningful takeaways" You haven't discussed anything, you just keep saying to discuss shit which is what I'm annoyed at, why don't
you tell us why you like certain types of concept art instead of going "I just like this and I have a better opinion than you so", slop anon has this problem too but you're the one who's pretending to be open to discussion. Tell us anon, tell us what you like about it, point out what techinques or compostions you like, tell us why you think this art works in a certain way and why you think that's good.
No. 1951481
>>1951478KEK, this. I want to see her defend why she likes this
>>1951358 so much, because it's so boring to me.
The thing i hate the most about concept art is how all women look the same, while men are allowed to be ugly/old/buff/bald.
No. 1951484
>>1951467>>1951403This one? Well let's get into it!
The light source is clearly the sabers with a deliberately foggy overcast lighting to let the sabers stand out as the focus of the image. Bottom clearly has light source from the right. Bloomy appearance is an imitation of lens effect for a more cinematic quality, I like it, it's atmospheric. Agree on the disconnect of the characters to the ground but in thumbnail view the image is conveyed successfully nonetheless. Ground plane appears to be a 3d asset, may not have been refined due to time/budgetary constraints, but is quite obvious. Colours don't look muddy to me, monochromatic perhaps, but still harmonious with pops of saturation where needed. And lastly I think the action is well conveyed. Clear posing and remember, this is just a concept image for the animation, not a final print image.
My personal criticism of the 2nd image is the lack of clarity in the silhouette fo the 2 characters, merges in an ambiguous way, but in motion with fluttering cloth it's probably fine.
I think both are successful as keyframe images, depicting specific moments of action in the story, the 2nd one less so due to silhouette clarity.
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>>1951484Nayrt but they look bad and if even you're making excuses for why it looks unfinished with
>muh time/budgetary constraints! then you know it.
Thanks for the kek though, nona. I haven't seen a "I'm so much smarter and hotter than you plebs tee-hee" anon in a long time.
No. 1951497
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I admire the artist’s intentions(it’s certainly better than just posting anime characters holding watermelons) but why did she draw him a near completely different race lol? Where did those curls come from?
No. 1951498
>>1951486I'd like your thoughts on
>>1951199 as you've already discussed the other I wanted your opinion on in a prior message. This one too
>>1951318 I find the top two quite bland but maybe you could change my mind.
>>1951485Why though, what could come from anons drawing a watermelon or something? If anons wanted to contribute to that they would have already donated. We didn't do this shit for the bushfires or Ukraine.
No. 1951501
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Anyone else struggles with proportions or am i just dangerously retarded? i also struggle finding a middle ground between realistic faces and simplified ones. Drawing hard.
No. 1951506
>>1951492What are your parameters for "real" art? What's a groundbreaking new concept/scene produced within the last 5 years? I have plenty more to bring up, these where just a few images that came to my mind.
>>1951498Brilliant brush economy and simplification. Restrained use of colours and saturation letting the values do the heavy lifting.
Admittedly not much story conveyed but I don't think that was the goal of either image. The value structures are so solid and nice value composition as well with the top one using lights as an accent and 2nd using shadows as an accent. I definitely prefer these iamges for there technical read than any storytelling involved.
As for ross, I simply wanted to state that he has skills beyond what most ppl think of him if his older work is any indication. Definitely not the same teir as instagram career artists. He would have made an impact in the world of entertainment art without social media.
No. 1951511
>>1951485I think most nonnies wanted to do a parody of those Palestine fanarts with famous characters but it wouldn't be good for the board since magma is being a bitch already and even some
terf doodles were deleted just for the boards to stay up
No. 1951514
>>1951510personally not the biggest fan of the last one either, I agree.
How would you edit the first image to make it better? I think the values are pretty on point. Feel free to do a greyscale comparison
No. 1951515
>>1951508How about posting something you like that you find actually amazing and not some compromise overtime crunch slop made for a Disney show?
>unfortunately reality has schedules and budgetsHave you never seen art made with time, love and care for fun instead of under stress and for profit? Can you even recognize it?
You're trying to seem open-minded asking for anons' opinions but you don't seem to take any criticism of your taste at all and only keep defending yourself. You seem young and an inexperienced artist so I'll give you a pass, but you have multiple unrelated anons telling you you're wrong and you should maybe consider some of their points.
No. 1951516
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>>1951514nayrt but kek nona why don't you do it yourself? I'm waiting.
No. 1951517
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>>1951424Moby Francke and Drew Wolf game design and concept art
No. 1951518
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>>1951508modern artists are so weak JC Leyendecker and other artists of the time were making these detailed and realistic covers weekly
No. 1951519
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>>1951515i have indeed but that falls outside of the initial parameters of concept art. If we expand to all art is like this recent one from neo1900 but their whole body of work is incredible
What's some amazing work that you've enjoyed recently?
>>1951516Because I'm not criticising it. I like the value structure
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>>1951516>>1951510Decided to have a go anyway, exposing up highlights on the background and top part of the subject help with clarity but feels more staged, like it's lit with artificial light. I still prefer the original with a little darker look which has the subject blending more into the shadows, more cinematic feel, and better conveying the mood of the piece I think.
No. 1952741
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Are there any guides on outfit design, drawing clothes and such?
pic unrel it's just something I found neat
No. 1952819
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Damn after seeing the artslop argument I feel like none of you will like Sandra kucks work. Sometimes it's nice to enjoy generic idyllic crap.
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>>1952819Hating boring concept art =/= hating idyllic and peaceful art. I was in the artslop arguement and my favourite art ever is those cosy Gnome book illustrations by Rien Poortvliet.
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>>1952831NTA but old corporate stuff wasn't exactly soulless. Picrel is a Meyercord decal which is extremely corporate but I still find it gorgeous.
No. 1952965
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What are so artists that draw nice anime faces in your opinion? I am trying to do studies because my faces are so fucking bad. I really like Yana Toboso type faces, but its hard to not make them look ''too western''.
No. 1953193
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>>1949487I love Suzumori's art. She has a lot of knowledge in a animal anatomy and uses it to draw her monsters. It motivates me to learn more about anatomy.
No. 1953204
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>>1952965I like sakaki_momo's faces. They're simple, but very cute and expressive. Most of her work is fanart of Steven Universe or buff women, in case that's not up your alley
No. 1953212
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>>1952965Kotteri is good for more realistic faces
No. 1953614
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>>1952965getting outside of the sphere of modern online artists, i like Kuni Fukai's art from the seventies.
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>>1952965My favorite is Lirthel. I love how she draws expressions and their almost doll-like look.
No. 1954187
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lavendertowne's hazbin redesigns
No. 1954208
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>>1954187The radio faggot is literally zhongli from genshin impact, what's her justification?
No. 1954210
>>1954208No, he doesnt. He looks like a cockroach or poo monsters. Absolutely horrid color choices. The spider faggot looks like an underage femboy grooming
victim.
No. 1954224
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>>1954220having an art degree in america means nothing. Moriah elizabeth also has an art degree and she draws like this. I wonder what the mediocre artists with useless degrees that didnt have luck with youtube do. Do they just work at walmart?
No. 1954229
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>>1954226why is this guy lying to this poor girl? she's never going to improve in that hugbox environment. Also, holy shit how do yu fuck up something as basic as shading a sphere?
No. 1954638
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A while back my husband and I hung out with his newgrounds friends that are all very successful on YouTube etc. last night he was telling me that we should become successful like them and make cartoons too. I started getting mad at him because I’ve had zero interest in animation and I only draw for myself. He doesn’t even draw and would just want to write stories while I’d be animating. No way that’s happening especially since those YouTube animators are strapped to their desks and don’t leave the house much.
No. 1954831
>>1954187I thought it was interesting her trying to make Alastor more 20s inspired and the sepia thing, but the way she did the antler motif kinda looks like ass and the neck tie pisses me off so fucking much because he has a coat on, so the necktie should be under the coat, and the collar looks like how a child would draw a collar if you didn't give it any reference image.
Also:
>20s inspired>headset microphone that isn't even properly pointed at the mouthNo idea what she was trying to do with angel dust, honestly. He does look like an e-boy lmao. She tried to make Alastor more reminiscent of the 20s but then gave Angel Dust a 2020 femboy sweater
You can tell that she just churned this out for her video. I think people have pointed out for years that her lineart is kinda bad, and you can even tell that there are white spots that the bucket tool didn't reach here, so at this point I don't know why she doesn't just do coloured sketches, especially in a video like this that is about character design instead of illustrations. I feel like her lack of fundies would stick out less in a cleaned up roughly coloured sketch than in a clearly rushed full drawing with crappy lineart.
Also, it seems she deleted the video, lol. Someone in the recent comments of her music genres video claims she said she was gonna redo it. Did she get flamed for it? Or did she just have a sudden epiphany about the video's quality?