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Somebody mentioned 3YE in last thread and I wanted to reply that their style is the same from recent groups but I kind of like them. Probably because it's only three girls and they dance really well. But I haven't listened to any B sides from them.
They also release dance covers from time to time in different languages and they actually sing the songs. They did a hindi song recently and seems from the comments they did really good with pronunciation.
I really like their song called ''OOMM''. I like 3YE they remind me of 2nd gen groups.
But i dont think they will ever make it big because they dont fit the korean beauty standards and because the kpop world has become even more misogynistic towards females appearance.
I've got to say looking at fancams I really appreciate the choreo more for Kick it, it's really hard. But you have to watch the main dancers ones lol Doyoung is barely on stage for example.
Taeyong went crazy this time. I get some anons don't like him but he can daance. He looks less skinny than in the MV. He's clearly underweight but I find someone like Lisa more scary looking. But maybe I'm biased because I love skinny guys.
Yeah people get so angry about it lol guys I've shown kpop MVs to immediately go "they look like girls, are they gay?" it's so annoying. God forbid a man took care of themselves, I even had a guy tell me Siwon looked "feminine" and he's one of the more masculine idols.
I find skinny guys hot and I don't get mad at people liking buff guys. To each their own.
It’s probably because they wear makeup and the stereotypes of Asian men
celebs in the west wear makeup too but you won’t catch them with a smoky eye and blue contacts
I get that, but they still get so defensive lol men really protect their low effort lifestyle. The biggest example of that is the "dad bod" trend.
I'm not saying they should start wearing makeup, but I find the comments that they make really off putting and I usually don't bother talking about kpop when they get defensive on what a "man" should look like.
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Lol so If I like a 20 something year old dude that looks a bit more feminine like the one pictured you're calling me a pedo? you're projecting so hard anon. I never said "teenager" I said feminine.
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I was watching this and was like, hey that girl reminds me of that japanese AKB48 girl
oh IT IS the AKB48 girl, shes in Rocket Punch wtf.
The melody of the first verse was really nice, but unfortunately this again got fucked over by SM's boner for the noise pollution. Wtf is SM doing with fucking over songs that could be solid R&B tracks.
On a similar note, does anyone else here want an edit of Obsession (Exo) where the chorus and singing parts are isolated from all of the other noise and remixed into a listenable r&b song. I really like the smoothness of the chorus but the rest of it is absolute garbage. I don't have the skills to do this (yes anons, i know) but someone who's looking for some attention for their music production skills could make a killing by remixing the noise polluted r&b tracks that SM has been shitting on for the past few years.
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but I think I have a good estimate on the bigfraud family heights
Suga 171/5.7.5 ( same a jimin but he’s a “hyung” so lol)
V 174/ 5’8.5
Yeonjun 174/ 5’8.5 ( biggest fraud he claimed 181cm lmfao)
Jin 175cm /5’9
RM 178-179/ 5’10.5
Soobin 181/ 6ft
I think I’m pretty right tbh
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Men lie about their height all the time but Yeonjun is next level delusional
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sounds about accurate. most of them seem to be around the same height tbh.
i know taylor swift is a tall woman and she's probably wearing heels but they looked pretty short next to her
She’s 5’9.25” according to celebheights
So yeah in heels she’s be taller than them
BTS wears lifts too
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If I had to see it so do you
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No, once you're fully grown yourself, you can easily spot a transgender. You're distracted by the make-up and fancy clothes.
It's just as how in the past men played female roles. Nowadays they just practice it by injecting hormones and plastic surgeries.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
this seems accurate. i dont know why big hit lies so much more about the shorter members heights when its clear that they're short when they stand next to actual tall people>>78274
taylor is a woman shes been in the limelight since she was 15. tall women exist weirdo dont get off topic
The noise pollution thing is so accurate. I literally remember nothing of the song and it's genuinely painful to sit through.
It's becoming a bit of an issue outside of SM too though. On literally sounds like a bunch of noise with noting memorable too.
I’m a tinfoiler too but of all the conspiracy theories, everyone being transgender is one of the stupidest ones next to lizard people. It’s also sexist because plenty of cis women have certain traits. Go back to vigilant citizen where you can over analyze everyone’s bone structure and call them trannies.
Sage for ot
This all sounds good, but I think there’s more of a height difference between v and yeonjun. Not a big one, probably .25-.5 an inch.
It’s stupid af how bts and armys tease jimin for being so short but suga is the same height practically .
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You can compare their heights to James Corden (5"8 but give an inch for his shoes) when they were barefoot at his show
I wish they where standing in a straight line lol
It sucks that bts doesn’t do variety shows there is a chance height would be brought up and they would have been measured
Yeah it'd be nice to finally end the bullshit about their heights but of course the managers would prevent that from happening on a show.
Seems silly to lie about their heights in the first place since that's something you can't hide forever.
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I am certain JK is 5’9” max most likely 5’8”
Jungkook said Charlie Puth was taller than him and he is 5’10 according to celebheights ( celebhieghts is really accurate)
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Media asking bighit whether the company might cancel upcoming tour dates due to coronavirus = bothering the boys!!1!
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I finally decided to investigate Nature, this girl looks like Hitomi and Wonyoungs lovechild.
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I have no words.
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i dont know anything about him but he looks like an ugly dyke and his face disgusts me
they all wear insoles so thats that..
i saw a post in the previous thread about how Beomgyu looked the same height as the stray kids guy, and he is 171cm but looked way shorter than a girl next to them that was 170cm tall.
Lmao>>78377>>78376>Winwin and Jaehyun
lmao i saw that. K-nctzens were calling Jungkook a ''slut'' and a ''manwhore'' just because he hugged Jaehyun.
Looks like korean nctzens are even worse than their international counterpart which i thought was impossible.
ot i replied to the wrong one was supposed to reply to >>78359
Either way they went crazy over this hug….wtf
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jeez i thought it was a dude for a second
For looks alone, Taeyong (and exo kai), there's just something so weird about his face and I don't like it, especially now knctzens are holding him as some kind of visual over jin and jungkook
I wish Jay Park would learn to shut the fuck up for once
For personality/vibes, I trust no one in the rap scene, such as zico, Dean or crush, I just have a feeling they're a seungri type of people, so I will not be surprised when something comes out about them. And then there's bigbang and super junior kek
Lmaoo haven't seen this video for years, I forgot it happened. But anon you have to recognize that it's the perfect pop song, it gets stuck on your brain. Also the whole album/comeback was iconic,bigbang had a long hiatus if I remember correctly and apparently going through disbandment. They went all in that time, they also released bad boy, blue, etc. The gp was hungry and to be honest no other boy group was doing it like them.
Shame everything else, seeing TOP at his prime in this video while remembering that insta live while drunk, alone, speaking nonsense and looking like shit… kek almost gave me depression
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This is a bit random & probably dumb. But in the vein of the above discussing idols faces you don't like. I came across this article by accident a while back and it helped shed light on why so many anons here have often said RM's face is so punchable. He seems to meet the criteria they discuss here. Idk most of the other idols you guys brought up bc I don't follow nct or really any boy groups. But maybe this will help someone else here kek.
With RM imo specifically it's both his features and also what they say about seeming not trustworthy. Because he's got quite an (undeserved) ego and always seems a bit like he's…scheming? Idk. He just comes off as disingenuous to me, in a weirdly subtle way. Sugar has a hefty ego too but he's not as punchable to me somehow?https://www.mic.com/articles/135809/we-asked-facial-symmetry-experts-about-the-science-behind-having-a-punchable-face
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Is that the tomboy girl from GWSN? That styling is atrocious, she can be pretty cute with a different hairstyle and makeup.
>Korean singer Kim Yeon Woo talked about how he met Jungkook on Korean TV show: “I got a call from Jungkook several months ago. He said “I never had a vocal lesson before. I want to learn from you.”(Jungkook calling Kim as “teacher”) So I went to the studio & gave him a lesson.”>Though it is clear, from how Kim Yeon Woo received calls from two members, that the company doesn’t have, within their own resource, any proper expert to give vocal lessons to their artists.
That explains a lot lmao. This comeback I felt like except for JK maybe their singing is getting worse everyday.
Her hairstyles consistently look like wigs to me. Stiff ones too, that never moves kinda like a helmet.>>78452
God, kpop companies so trash. No wonder stans get so hyped whenever an idol can successfully hold a note. Do these companies just pick conventionally attractive youth and not bother training them? Wtf.
That was me and thank you for replying. I kind of like them too. Don’t know much about the company behind them or the girls themselves. Music is the same shit but like…I wouldn’t skip the song if I were streaming. >>78174
Yeah, 2 of the girls looked kind of stiff and awkward but the one with the short hair did well.
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They’re freefalling off the charts. They’ll be dropping out when next week’s update comes out
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She kinda cute tho. Girl on the left looks like Sana.>>78395
Not sure if anyone here has been watching Itaewon Class but there's two supporting characters who look like they could form V's face if you did one of those face morph things.
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i can't believe some company ceo thought it'd be okay to cast a girl with the face of a mom in a teen girl group, it just looks fucking weird.
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Sometimes she looks older or puffy in the face, other times she looks fine.
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If you compare them to the rest of the group it looks like someones mom decided to join her daughters friends.
That's not an unpopular opinion, we've all been saying that for ages.http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2020/03/jay-park-gets-slapped-by-brian-ortega.html
Like it says in the title, Jay Park got slapped by an UFC fighter. Because of his problematic
past, some don't seem to mind that much lol
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Well, but he literally slapped him for no reason. I don't get it
Reaction was cute but Yuta always has the sourest face ever. Why is he such a little bitch? He appeared several times in the MV, yeah he doesn't have the same screen time as other members but I even heard the B sides and he has several lines, so he's not "forgotten" by SM.
Maybe he should learn to not act as bitchy if he wants more recognition lol just look at the last scene of the video and you'll see his attitude.
I can see why Yuta would be bitter. He spent his youth training and working in a foreign country for a successful company only to become the least popular member of an embarrassing group. But he needs to at least pretend to not hate his life lol he’s not V he can’t get away with the bored/bitchy expressions.
Mark is so charming tho, I’m not surprised that he’s one of the more popular members
Mark is sooo cute, I once saw a full cut of his Life Bar episode and I just smiled the whole video. You can tell he's naturally adorable and not faking it. Video here: https://www.dailymotion.com/video/k1GWB3FeufdgiHqqiIk
I can understand Yuta's disappointment but he's not helping his case acting that way. Especially since korean fans are ruthless and don't like bitchy attitudes. Also, what did he expect? No Japanese member gets more screen time than a Korean one.
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she looks so much like lee sem, who was in 9muses and known for her "mature" look lol
jungwoo is so fucking cute. I truly missed his presence.
I was ready to hate on him but yuta just seems very into the mv? he tries to react when other members are on screen but pays attention to his scenes
It doesn't happen during the whole video but it's a vibe you can clearly feel around the end, maybe he has resting bitch face but the end scene he's not even looking at the group and he visibly rolls his eyes.
I've also seen him acting the same in previous MV reactions. I really feel he's pissed off and showing it. If you read the comments everyone feels the same.
poor dude. came from japan with good intentions to become a star.
instead he got botched and put into a sucky group as a backdancer.
(sage your posts please)
I didn't watch that video but personally I don't like Mark at all. He's kind of ugly in a natural way and his english makes me cringe. He's in the same boat as Amber or Jae to me…
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He said a bunch of racist and sexist shit but mainly because he performed with 6ix9ine (a pedophile) and upon hearing his fans concerns he responded by saying "only god can judge".
Here are some tweets of him about it: he mainly claims he's so positive and non-judgemental blah blahhttps://www.asianjunkie.com/2018/05/26/jay-park-responds-to-concerned-fans-after-6ix9ine-a-felon-due-to-sex-act-with-13-year-old-performs-at-release-party/
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Lol maybe he just doesn't like doing mv reaction videos
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dat nose is the stuff of nightmares. and they're thirsting over this https://twitter.com/_kittycatmeow/status/1237456726430867458
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I also don't understand… I noticed BG fans tend to stan the ugliest idols out there. Bc they think maybe they have a chance idk.
He's been also recently been poster on the idol spam thread probably by the same people claming to hate him lol
>>78497>Sometimes she looks older or puffy in the face, other times she looks fine.
You mean like every human who's ever lived, ever? KEK you guys really bring nitpicking to another level.
Idk who we're discussing here, idk this group? (are all 3 from the same group?) but the girl on the left looks like an actual digital amalgam of jihyo and momo…anyone else see it?>>78498>>78496>>78493
Every gg has at least one member who inexplicably looks old, so this isn't that unusual. Are you new to kpop?
I agree with the anon at comment >>78555
…when farmers aren't sperging about idols being too young or styled young, they're complaining about idols being too old.
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considering the age of her modelling pics she was either lying then or lying now
could go either way
I remember him getting a bunch of predebut promo, wasn't he on some TV show as a rookie?
I guess I'd be sour too after being shoved aside with no explanation despite one of the most promoted trainees, maybe he thinks other members snatched his thunder or something. Him latching onto the more popular members (first Winwin now Mark) reeks of desperation kek
Both Kai and Baekhyun 'hang out' with him only because he acts like their flunky. It's Lucas' fans hyping up and misinterpreting their interactions as always.
Ten and Taeyong are both intimidated to death by the seniors. Ten is especially awkward because he can't act his usual bitchy self so he's lost.
>>78625>He was laughing at Kai for having books.
I always thought Kai is the dumb/slow one in Exo but I guess nobody can beat retard Lucas…
And judging by how some people here unironically believe that his seniors of what, 5 years? 10 years? genuinely like hanging out with him, his fans are not much better off… They're forced to do the "he's like my lil bro uwu" act, of course they can't openly mock him or show how annoyed they are by him.
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Do you think jikook might be real? Straight men don't lick other straight mens' ears, not even for fanservice. I sense genuine sexual tension between those two.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
He has a big Chinese and Japanese fandom I think? His cover editions used to sell out the fastest right below Jaehyun's at some point so he does have some demand; he might not be super popular but he's definitely higher than Yuta on account of not pumping filler into his face en masse>>78634
Ten's only real idol friends seem to be Johnny and Kun. He has an acquaintance-type relationship with the rest>>78625
He said he used to get only zeros in school so he really is fucking retarded. Idk about outcast but he's very much the dumb meathead jock type
And gay korean idols don’t do that on stage to come out either. Stop being delusional, it’s to please their rabid fans who need homoerotic relationships between their favorite members.
Do you actually believe actual gay koreans would do that for the eyes of the world to see? Maybe there’s a member in bts who’s gay/bi but do you REALLY think he’d expose himself in the most shameless way possible? An actual couple wouldn’t do that.
Honestly Jungkook and Jimin give off the vibe that they would fuck anything that walks.
Jungkook is probably sexually frustrated that he hasnt fucked anything in a long time.
Jimin also gives off huge bisexual vibe and seems to love foreign men.
i think they both hate each other but at the same time they are horny.
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The ship is bullshit/fake but Jimins sexuality still is very questionable.
I mean its not even bts so you cant use ''muh fanservice'' as a excuse because he acts like this with random men too.
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i mean are you sure………….
there was also that moment where he was checking wonho out that when he got caught he started doing finger guns out of embarrassment.
Jimin is way to sexually liberated with all men for him to be straight.
He still is a horrible singer but the dude is bisexual and idk why no one wants to admit this.
it wasnt me this time. Looks like now we have two ban evadinf ratmys YAAAY
Either way here is the full video if anyone wants to see it instead of spamming the same picture
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maybe if you werent a retard you would realize that we just have fun fucking around with retards who take our baits and trolls so easily and have anger issues.
Either way this is not the kpop critical thread anymore so if people are allowed to sperg about lucas/utah/yuta all the time here then so are we allowed to say what we want to bitch.
Sure delulu you're totally not invested in this ship you're just trolling topkek
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That shit has literally been debunked months ago with the landlords saying what really happened and that tattoo artist is publicly dating someone else.
its not 2019 september cornball.
It literally took me 5 minutes to find these pictures on the internet.
yes because posting on a board with angry retards when i know there are million of sites catered to people like me is apparently coping lmao. Thread is literally milkless and its the same nct sperging 24/7.
Not everyone is here coping like you nctfags some people just get tired of the stale milk.
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Lick my ass and my crack
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Western femcels new to kpop would lose their minds if they knew kpop back in the day 비게퍼 would include literally kissing on stage kek sad for u guys… sooner or later they'll be on the news for sexually harassing some gangnam unnie or dating someone barely legal>>78697
They do tho since the leaked footage came out bc it's completely not normal in kculture to backhug someone of the opposite sex. I'm taiwanese and can relate to that. They were also spotted in multiple occasions and in different cities, they went to that mini trip to busan, and were also spotted in a very trashy love motel (not the guesthouse) by weibo accounts, it was just swept under the rugs. You were saying that the other members were pissed at JK bc they were jealous but it's actually because of that scandal + driving accident one.
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stay mad.(ban evading ratmy)
idk, he was going for the emo edgy look while he was apparently with her, so i wouldn't consider "the female beauty" standards a valid
maybe she wasn't his girl and just someone he was seeing more casually? i feel like this option gets left out a lot. it's either "they were dating" or "no way they were dating" with very few "they were fuck buddies" in between.>>78712
ohh.. if that were true it would be interesting, but again weibo is not that great of a source.
He still has this look and has had it for a while. Everything is confirmation bias at this point.
You’re right about the fuck buddy thing though, I mentioned it when it first happened too but nobody listened cause people want to believe idols are romantic and get exclusive gfs or are in loving romantic relationships with their band mates.
They’re just fuckboys.
It's not "weibo said". Weibo is just like twitter/facebook. The thing is that westerners who can't read in chinese will always pick up trashy info and baseless rumours. You gotta know the right pages/accts/communities. My Chinese-canadian acquaitances who actually knew exactly at what time Baekhyun would leave the hotel room when he came to VC last month just by their weibo info. You gotta know where to look at.>>78711
Maybe it's a weird concept for Americans but in countries where love motels is a thing it's absolutely normal for uber rich men to go there with their side chicks or prostitutes. You'd be disgusted/surprised @ how packed they get during lunch hours.
i know he has had the look for awhile, but during that time was when he started to get more into it with the tacky tattoos and all. so he might have actually liked her alternative look for the moment. i am convinced on most if not all of them being fuckboys, so i think he was just seeing her for fun and maybe that chick got exposed since the sasaengs didn't like her look lol.>>78716
well if you only say "weibo" source without actually adding info or proof of those claims that it's from a legit sasaeng or something it sounds like you are just coming here with baseless rumors. the motel thing sounds legit though.
Still, without solid proof there’s no way to know if particular info are accurate and that’s the truth of the matter. Anyone could make up shit even in supposedly informed communities. I was in the 1D fandom back in the day and some of the people that had proved they were in the know about certain thing and were trusted by the community started spreading false info at some point when it fitted their narrative. Like when they wanted us all to believe that Harry would never go solo and were showing us emails with industry people. Anyone can make up stuff on the internet, so I guess we can all believe what we want. No reason to call each other naive for believing what we feel like believing.
Key word, side chicks. Not girlfriends.
I'm not that anon tho I'm just adding to their point. There's a lot of juicy stuff on weibo, it was bizarro how they followed SuperM real time just using it.>>78718
The difference between sidechick and girlfriend is unimportant here tho. Op started with that because the delulus were talking about their ship being real blabla when Jungkook was very busy fucking random girls.
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Are we gonna keep pretending Jungkook is some kind Greek God? If we put his career aside, his face is not attractive and he has the morphology of a twink.
For me these two people are on a equivalent level. I don't understand the shock.
Fucking people you have no feelings for becomes boring but virgin fans wouldn't know that.
Anyway can we please stop talking about BTS if no milk? I barely knew them before these threads and now I'm as informed as a hardcore fan.
I guess people can’t fathom developing feelings for someone below average but that’s stupid cause it happens all the time.
Ok, what would you rather discuss?
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The delusion. Yes he could get a prettier girl but looks aren't everything. Especially when he probably fucks x10000 pretty girls since he's teen. I'm repeating myself but fucking people you don't like becomes boring no matter how hot they are.
And the girl is 1-2 point below him physically so nothing that a good feeling can't compensate.
Sorry he's just not that pretty to me. I don't get the appeal at all but let's leave it there.
And a ""hot"" guy being with a ""ugly"" chick isn't incredible or magical world. We're not talking about mariage here.
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jesus they aren't kidding with the platform shoes. Everyone is so sensitive about height and face size.
Well that’s just you then, most people would disagree about his looks and you know it.
Either way nobody really knows what happened and what he likes so I think talking about it is pointless.
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yes a fashion trend among shorties
thanks anon >>78712
I’m Imagining them all just staring at jungkook passive aggressively lol
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I’m liking Itzy Wannabe but does anyone else hate this stupid dance move they do here? Idk who choreographed it but it’s like just this one part was thrown in by jyp himself bc it’s so him and I can’t stand watching it
I’m sure their friendship was ruined with Jungkook being less wary and doing whatever he wanted. Idk if anyone can find that video again and i’m surprised nobody brought this up yet since we’re on this topic but does anyone remember that one fancam that was posted some threads ago with bts making their famous ‘look guys, we’re family!!’ hug but Jimin coming to them to join just smoothly pushed away Jungkook and nobody was taken away except Jin (i think?) who looked at Jungkook afterwards?
Solo stans can get pretty delusional when protecting their baby uwu but i did get the feeling it wasn’t an accident.
I'm obsessed with this song and choreo. I've been watching every performance of it.
I think the choreo is fun and I don't see anything to hate in it!
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Loona had their first win with their worst song
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Seriously WHAT is up with this guy and sasaengs?
This has me wondering how often shit like this happens between sasaengs and idols
>>78807>This has me wondering how often shit like this happens between sasaengs and idols
A lot. I hate to say it, but Yuta probably doesn't even have it that bad compared to other idols.
He has an attitude, but I honestly can't blame him when it comes to flipping off sasaengs, they don't deserve the respect.
lol, i was going to say the same. if yuta has it that bad, others probably got it a lot worse.
v is gonna release a song he did for an OST tomorrow, do you guys think bts is finally gonna start getting some solo work again? or is this gonna be like a one time thing that doesn't happen again like the drama he appeared on?
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On the topic of saesangs, why were they so much crazier during the first gen? Not to say they're not crazy now, but back then you had saesangs straight up trying to murder idols and shit.
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actually crazy saesang culture existed in the second gen too, it only ended this gen (third gen).
Second gen were just as crazy like that one time this fan sexually assaulted shinee jonghyun and forced a kiss on him and then his manager slapped the fuck out of her.
The first post talks about licking ears…>>78843
Then you should blame their marketing strategy not the teens having normal reactions to it. And I don't care if you're an army or not.
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>jikook is so real u guys
>look at how they stare at each other
>straight men don't act that way
>the sexual tension between them
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Nayeon is a lucky gal
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I'm not bothering with kpop anymore and this isn't super recent news,but I stumbled upon this yesterday and,as an ex-fan,found this hilarious https://www.koreaboo.com/news/vixxs-hongbin-angers-netizens-after-flips-viewers-off-live-broadcast/
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What kind Of fucking degenerate posts this shit about a dead person. It's bad enough posting it when they're still alive.
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jeez these guys aged like 10 years.
silly anon, this is taemin.
damn his english is good.
I remember when every anon was making fun of jungkook for looking like a smelly incel who has cheeto dust fingers
it was peak lolcow lol
sis this is kpop are you new
every celeb wears it male/female
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How does this creature have so many fans??? He looks like someone's crossdressing uncle/middle aged drunken lesbian aunt.>>78885
Honestly I really want to like her and it seems like she is trying, but she's just so bad. Idk shit about dance, but it's obvious dancing doesn't come naturally to her. Maybe it's something she could work on but Idk. She's just… goofy. She really doesn't fit their concept at all and unless they do some tedious ballad she's always going to look out of place.
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-Fried hair and contacts
Sorry anon but tt's your fangirling speaking here. I enjoy watching him dance and some pics look good but he's objectively an ugly man.
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Then an obese fat fuck isn't objectively ugly? Of course the body counts.
He's maybe not ugly where you live, but he's average at best.
Exactly, V as well.
For me it goes like V>Jin>Jimin>JK>Suga>RM>J-hope
>>78885>Are her parents rich chaebols or something?
lmao, do you even need to ask, Lia, Ryujin and Chaeryeong are rich af
people always show that one predebut video of Lia as a proof the girl can sing, but that had to be seriously edited because she hasn't displayed an ounce of talent since
she's also strangely unphotogenic despite being conventionally attractive, SM knew what they were doing when they passed on her
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Nominee for next thread's pic lol Yuta's face
They don't, you're getting reports from BTS stans. Most people who see them for the first time can't tell the difference between them.
Stans like him because they protect onto the grains of truth they're given 'poor baby jimin so unconfident having to be looked after by big strong oppas, always on a diet, self critical and working hard towards his dream so relatable!'
lmao i remember that saudi concert. Where he kept on forcing his fanservice on Taehyung and Jungkook.
Jungkook was legit avoiding him and running away from Jimin meanwhile Taehyung was to sick to avoid so he had to endure all of Jimin's faggotry, Taehyung literally looked like he was about to collapse and had trouble breathing meanwhile Jimin was too busy forcing fanservice on him.
I think Jimin is a little retarded.
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Momoland Daisy payed $60000 to join the group, idk about Lia's parents straight up buying her a spot in a big company like JYP, but it definitely happens.
And let's not play pretend Chaeryeong and Chaeyeon would land so well if they were regulars. Their whole skill set is background dancing, plenty of that in kpop.
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reminds me of this
How do fans see clips like these where V looks straight up annoyed/like he has a death wish and then immediately assume "VMIN soulmates!! besties!!".
One answer: Retarded.
Damn I didn't realise how aggresive they were in these shows. And these dumb edits don't help.
I remember Goo Hara on the verge of crying because hosts implied she's a whore and they put some cringy edits to make it funny…Yikes
From Starship's official statement: "We will continue to fully support Wonho for developing his own career in the future. Thank you."
Wait, are they giving him a solo career??
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I find this whole Wonho-situation quite weird tbh.
Their fans are delusional for thinking he'll come back kek
But the thing that's the most strange to me tho, is why they kept his lines in All about Luv.. does that mean they knew he was innocent and planned for him to re-join the group? Don't think that's so likely to happen tho
You millennials are so sensitive jesus
back in my day kpop wasn’t manufactured bullshit for little girls
imma sound like a sap for this but she looks decent whenever she dances while smiling and singing her part of the song, but overall she's truly wack. >>78885
somi wouldve fit this concept better but imo she'd overshadow the four of them not unless they all have the same height lmao and not have somi tower over all four of them
maybe they're just tired but they look way less enthusiastic and energetic than in previous comebacks… jyp is going to overwork them to death just like twice ig>>79019
i can't imagine somi in itzy now at all tbh. when is she going to have a cb? even blackpink haven't had one in ages, somi will probably have to wait til 2021
Only joined Kpop in 2019 but I think it's already time for me to leave kek. Haven't heard any good release…
In one year I feel like I explored everything Kpop had to offer. It's quite a poor musical genre. It becomes repetitive and boring very quickly. It's sad becauseI was very excited at the beginning.
been a fan since 2015 and that spark in kpop that made it fun has left ever since kpop stopped being niche and a little bit more mainstream.
no fun survival shows, bad news everytime, negativity, focus on records and not song quality (had someone tell me lyrics and composing of the song doesnt matter as long as the concept and mv is good, shallowness), idols tip toe on everything, crazy protective fans ruining everything etc.
kpop is slowly dissolving and dying out.
I mean… he didn't lie tho kek>>79001
The reason is pretty obvious… they get the same results $$$$ with less investment.
At least SM is still somewhat worried about vocal lessons… big hit aka the new blueprint doesnt give 2 shits about it
Not to sound r/lewronggeneration,it's true that Kpop isn't as fun as what it once was. I blame:
- International stan culture. Companies and idols know that no matter what crap they put out or do, twitter morons will defend them to death. So they put out indistinguishable hip hep flower boy~, oppa I love u, girl crush lite songs.
-Idols being rich kids and buying their way into groups. This did happen before (e.g. Sunny), but most idols were from ordinary families or literally lived in poverty. Idk, I think this made them hustle more and work harder? Compare current idol varieties to say SNSD's. With current ones, you have one or two "funny" members (not really) and the rest stand around smiling blankly.
I've been into kpop only since 2015 but I must say I noticed it downgrading too.
The songs tend to all sound very similar and I can hear the quality not being as high as it once was.
Not to speak about the fact that back then I loved "nugu" groups cause they would usually release weirdly good but quirky songs. These days all nugus sound the same with the noise trend they are following.
And what about the fashion? I loved kpop for the fashion back then. Every group had their own style and would bring something new to the table. But these past 3 or so years everyone wears the same exact things: chokers, bdsm harnesses and pleaded skirts.
It's very fucking boring.
sistar, shake it got me into kpop
and exo was my first fave group.
Not an itzy or lia fan here but this isn't unusual..lots of times choreo is adjusted to meet the need of the primary vocalist in that moment. It happens a lot for yeji in dalla dalla for example.
I think this part you're talking about involves a jump down into a squat position. Even if she's just half-ass barely-singing over a recording of herself*
it's probably hard to do gracefully at the same time so she they simplified her choreo there to help.
There's lots to criticize Lia for but this isn't one of them, sorry..how about those pants on yeji and yuna though, guys? Talk about unflattering, wow, like these two are pretty small and have good figures overall I think, so that took some skill to make them look this bad.*
= they don't literally 100% lip sync since it looks fake and ppl can tell. They do at least pretend to sing over themselves. Sometimes they are singing legitimately but the crew turns up the backing vocal so high you'd never know it kek.
As tacky as itzy is, I still think BP takes the cake in the disconnect between members and the inability to actually perform with the music. I know Jisoo tries but she's the worst girl group idol I've ever seen. The poor girl is painfully awkward and looks so out of place, even compared Dara who was known for looking awkward throughout her entire career with 2NE1. Even Dara's voice is somewhat listenable compared to Jisoo who would be the worst vocalist in the group if it wasn't for "welcum to mai kitchennn" Rose.
I had this thought and now I can't unsee Black Pink as that group of mean girls at school who submit a 'performance' for the school yearly talent show. Jennie is the evil main bitch, essentially Regina George, and Rose is Gretchen Weiners. Lisa is the obnoxious loud one that isn't vying for power, but also has a bubbly personality that allows her to jive well with other people. Jisoo is basically the one who looks good enough to be a mean girl, but is fairly nice outside of the clique but lacks the spine to leave the group. Not sure what conclusion I'm supposed to draw from this but I thought it was pretty accurate.>>79069
Not sure how this is charting but this song is boring enough to be public friendly.
Check the creds: it's produced by Melanie Fontana and Lindgren, so he probably did close to nothing kek.
BigHit has been using these 2 producers A LOT lately which coincides with their decline in quality tbh
imo it sounded off because he had difficulty with the pronounciation hence the need for excessive autotune. >>79069
God i rlly hate these type of songs he puts out. I liked it better when he doesnt sing like a pretentious try hard which started after releasing 'stigma'. My friend who favors V in particular hates all his snooze fest solo songs kek.
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Does everyone in asia have a huge head or something?
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So is anyone watching this Nizi project thing? Seems very dry. I'm guessing Sony producers were involved.
Just tell me who the group is.
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i don't understand what happened to hwasa in these last 5 years, she was legit attractive imo. idek if its too many fillers or just her plucking her eyebrows too thin, but she downgraded appearance wise since "Mr Ambiguous"
Yep I agree anon.
I don’t hate her either she great confidence despite her appearance
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Aren't itzy like all underage or barely legal?
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if eunwoo looks this basic without photoshop i don’t know what to say about all other idols
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that one weird and creepy looking guy from TXT has a sister and she looks JUST like him and she is being scouted by YG apparently
i guess…i dont know anything about him he just looks like a burn victim
to me idk his race, but i always thought it was surgery/makeup/bleaching, apparently not
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Showing us how he got into his group.
I joined back in 2011 and I still feel like I missed out years prior.
It's not worth it anymore.
also please spoiler this shit
snsd the boys
don't hate me>>79043
she's too self conscious about her skills. You can tell she wants to leave the "love yourself"/ punk theme they all keep doing.>>79046
Every time they do it live on stage networks she stands in place, but if they're just dancing like on a dance show she gets down like everyone else. Seems she wants to make sure she gets a glimpse of the camera. >>79090
don't start this again>>79093
I'm avoiding that show right now. I't depressing. >>79132
You are correct.
What do you guys mean buy a “twink” is it just a skinny guy?
sorry I deleted my other comment because of an error
Thanks for answering my question
ugh, i kind of wanted to watch it but jyp just rubs me off the wrong way. he keeps bitching about how he doesn't want to look for someone who can sing or dance because according to him, that can be taught. like why the hell are there very few "his" idols that can even manage to do one of those two things semi decently then? too interested in his "charisma" bs. he just seems so full of it and i don't wanna bother or be bothered by it. i want nina to make it though…>>79158
i thought he looked like that because he had gotten plastic surgery and had bad makeup that didn't suit him too, but his sister looks the same.. i thought it was an edit of the guy at first tbh
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Brb gotta bleach my eye socket
She's loaded now she probably should ask a professional MUA for help; there are plenty of ways to look fierce without looking like a lizard>>79133
I like Hwasa as a person and she is undeniably talented but her stans are just delusional when they try to call her this "unconventional beauty" - she's just not, not by any standard around the world. She's normal looking to me and that's just fine, she's got plenty going for her otherwise
Are you new to kpop, or new to online kpop discussions, or just not very bright? They mean unconventional in the context of Korean beauty standards and the "norms" set for kpop visuals
… Hwasa is perfectly conventional in the area of the world she's in, sure. That's not what's being discussed.
I'm almost impressed, you haven't been beat over the head by the endless kpop visual discussions..? They are in every thread, link or comments section of nearly every kpop article or conversation that's ever been had online since pretty much the birth of the internet.
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still can't tell if eunbi got ps or lost a crapton of weight.
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Woah her eyelid surgery looks really botched and obvious here
The korean men who prefer japanese over korean idols are all otakus who want them natural and "innocent" looking (vomit), that's why nearly all of them look like totally normal little girls.
Your average korean idol without ps and only little makeup would probably look similar.>>79132
My thoughts. Poor girl, once she's 18 they'll call her haggard and ditch her.
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Hwasa looks like a supermodel compared to some of the boy group monstrosities that farmers thirst over.
Actually he has another sister who has debuted as an idol in a nugu group. I think they already disbanded since then.
You'll find out who's the sister.
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Obviously I'm a filthy CLC stan, but I'm surprised no one is talking about how ITZY ripped CLC's haircut gimmick from Black Dress.
Wavy to straight, cut to bob, foreshadowing with a walking with scissors scene, focus on the snip, happens before a drop. I know no one owns a concept but as a dumb stan I'm pretty bothered.
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Man ps really ages these idols quick
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another predebut pic
I guess looking at her makes people feel better about their own faces, I may never look like Irene or Nana but I sure as hell already look better than Hwasa>>79313
We can call them both hideous kek. At least the Stray Kids boys didn't start out ugly, Hwasa was just born with a lizard face
Blackpink need to be disbanded. Jenny is a toxic
and lazy, Jisoo is stiff and boring, Rose has the worst singing voice I’ve ever heard plus she’s an ugly smelly. Lisa is the only good one who seems like she actually gives a shit but unfortunately she will be the victim
but at least she’ll have fame back in Thailand.
So yeah I’m excited for YG’s new girl group but also don’t have high hopes tbh
Die, rat.>>79325>a toxic>plus she’s an ugly smelly>unfortunately she will be the victim
Lmfao esl and retardation or weak bait?
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Fuck off, lisafag. That bitch is making millions shilling products to her SEA fanbase, she's not a victim
I think they meant skelly, not smelly. lol
.Ever since YG realized how crazy SEA fans are for her,she's pretty much on par with Jennie when it comes to CF's and modelling.
She's also become an incredibly mediocre dancer.She always goes for the same style and has the same facial expressions.Lisa's one of those dancers who think that hard-hitting sharp moves make a good dancer,but they don't.
However I agree,she'll only have "fame" in Thailand.She's too mediocre to keep up with other idols.
How Jennie is toxic
Also without Blackpink, your fav Lizard has no career. She can't sing to save her life and her dance skills weakened. After a disbandment her hype will fade and she will not be able to scamm her SEA fans any longer.
would like to be excluded from this narrative. I can't stand any of them ty.
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ratmys screaming w rage over this tweet when it’s likely the truth
i highly doubt most of the bratty stans were actually around when bts were struggling and they’re now claiming those struggles as their own
So what? This "who is the most loyal fan" competition is sooo ridiculous and there is nothing to be proud of.
Also stop posting random stan tweets, nobody cares.
What is it about NCT that the general public doesn’t like…
The cards are in their favor..
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I remember when BTS were literally only liked by 10 year olds in SK lol. Does anyone think the Boy in Luv era was so much better looks wise? Yes it was cringe in its own way, but they didn't look like freaky red lipped aliens.
I wish the soft flower boy trend would end already. The manly bad boy thing all boy groups had a few years ago was try hard, but at least they looked relatively normal.
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Oops dropped the image… but again could just be PS but she looks SO much better.
She does look good here.
Man I'm so bored of most 3rd gen idol varieties these days.I get that Kpop has always been manufectured but these kids are so goddamn boring to watch and have no personality whatsoever.
I miss the time when idols from different companies could openly talk and banter with each other on those shows.
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So I hadn't paid attention to Everglow before Dun Dun got those bot views, and I know everyone is shitting on Mia, but I get it. When I first saw her I thought she was kind of ugly and she didn't stand out at all. Yiren and the Suzy lookalike have some spectacular visuals, EU and Aisha have tons more presence/charisma than her. I mean I've only watched their music videos once each, but Mia is still just so forgettable. Also why even include Onda in the group if she's not going to get any screen time or lines at all. She's forgettable as well but Idk if I can fault her for that because you barely see or hear her.
(Also how tf did they manage to make "goodbye au revoir adios" sound like "goodbye ovarios"?)
its kinda obvious that Hyuna doesnt even care about being a idol or idol life anymore.
She is just going with the flow with it and doing whatever she wants and dressing however she wants.
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I love Mamamoo's music but you can't deny that all of the members' faces look weird in some way. Solar's cheeks, Wheein's facial features… Moonbyul is my bias but that half-open mouth thing she always does makes her look like a mouth breather.
Shit music, too many members, confusing concept and SM's insistence on pushing Scamyong as center when he has a thousand controversies already. If Irene had that many she wouldn't ever debut in Red Velvet for sure
Also all the members are painfully unfunny, botched and unlikeable so they can't Suju their way into becoming relevant through variety shows
'fans' always keep giving the best milk>>79439>junsu stands out in a bad way in those pics
you peaked my curiosity, i googled but didnt see it. disappointed…
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nctzens recently fought exo ls and exo ls on twitter dragged them, imagine laughing at exo disbanding when nct is on the verge of getting put in the dungeon but ofc they're delusional
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wrong screenshot, here goes.
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What the fuck did they do to Hitomi? She's anorexic now. She used to be really cute and healthy looking. K-pop destroys people. She's also looking really dead inside.
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She looks like a low budget CL. Makes sense since her group is Mia and Friends, just like 2NE1 was CL and Friends.
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This is an awkward screenshot sorry but apparently on that new show Lisa lied and said that she doesn't diet when she very clearly does. No one becomes as thin as she is without dieting and it's dangerous for her to be lying to her young fanbase about this. Yeah , you can be really thin without eating much and I know what it's like to have a hard time gaining weight but she's TOO thin. Jennie looks fine most of the time to me which is why some anons call her stubby compared to the others and sometimes Jisoo is fine too but Rosé and Lisa without a doubt struggle with food.
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I'm an izonefag and have noticed how she's extremely skinny but whenever someone comments about it, you get like 10 other people saying that she's losing "baby fat". She was skinny before but she didn't look malnourished. Now it looks like you could break her bones just by bumping into her.
I’ve noticed southeast asians are really skinny and short
I think it’s an evolutionary trait to help them maneuver in jungles faster from predators
As someone who is naturally very thin, Lisa clearly is underweight and purposely stays that way. Lisa is naturally thin but she's not naturally THAT thin and she's been loosing weight since debut. Both her and Rosé look awful and when they stand next to Jennie for example you can really tell just how thin they are. Lisa was 10/10 not this skinny when she was trainee , she was skinny but not this skinny. The same thing goes for Rose. It's scary how Blinks are enabling this by saying that it's fine because they are naturally thin. You can start off naturally thin and end up underweight/having disorderly eating.
Also BP barely even has a schedule, I highly doubt that these girls are active enough that without dieting they'd end up this skinny and it doesn't help that YG is a misogynistic neckbeard without the neckbeard and puts down his female trainees every other second of the day.
Hitomi still has a really puffy, full-looking face despite her body being so thin. It's a bit strange to look at.>>79438
Their company could try to push Aisha and Shihyun more. Aisha seems to attract a lot of female fans (probably because deep voice, tall height, and pretty face) and Shihyun is one of the charismatic members. If Yiren weren't so boring, she could probably be a CF queen with her visuals.
not attacking you
Tbh I don’t believe someone is just naturally thin/fat fast/slow metabolisms are myth are most peoples are around the same
It’s calorie intake
Inb4 “my skinny friend eats alot” yeah for 1 meal and eats nothing/little the rest of the day
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What I meant is that Lisa is probably dieting since a very young age. She's been doing dance competitions for years it seems. Girl probably never had a normal diet. But it's true she lost some weight these last years so idk. >>79566
Lisa is the member with the most stamina so she would survive but Rose… Never been anachan so I don't get her logic. Not only she damages her body but it also makes her look disgusting.
idk why some anons here are so confused about lisa's body type. Its a lie that she doesnt diet, true, but some are thinking that she dieted her whole life in order to achieve looking like this.
whether she would diet or not, she wouldnt look too different and stay almost the same. She could look better with some muscle and eat healthy instead but at the same time, she wouldnt look 5x fuller than she would now. She'd stay slim (at the same time being healthier) and have lean muscle.
same goes for rose. both are naturally skinny, but not like the way they are now. If they didnt go ana in the first place, their skin would look firm and not appear to look as if their bones would rip thru it any moment.
conclusion is rose and lisa are naturally very skinny girls. But their ana dieting is making them look worst and their current weight now actually is unnatural.
sage for blackpink weight sperging.
SM has always produced competent vocalists.
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this is so unfortunate lol
I think Doyoung and Jaehyun have nice vocal colors and could learn to emote more if given the chance.
Taeil isn't my favorite vocal-wise. He sounds like he sings with the back of his throat lol. But my personal opinion doesn't matter, he is the one that, if given vocal lessons, could grow to be the best singer in NCT. But he is the worst offender when it comes to not putting any emotion into his singing. I feel like that goes for his whole personality though.
Haechan seems to have grown a lot since debut and his vocals matured, he's quite good rn. I also think that he's the one that puts the most emotion into his performances.
This is going to turn into a dumpster fire.
People weren't quite pleased with the new album and I doubt that a new one will turn out bettter cosidering that they'll rush everything just to make up for the loss of what they would've earned through touring.They'll just release more garbage.
I saw many complain that it couldn't keep up with the HYYH-era and that ON was too generic and that many felt uneasy about sharing their true opinion without having their own fandom attack them for not liking something for once.
Honestly,I believe it.Ofc they "love everything" because their own fandom would lynch them for not doing so.
He's trying his best, I guess? I agree with >>79643
, something about the way he looks/moves seems like he's disabled.
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Twice (except for Tzuyu) have the rattiest, unblended hair extensions. Tzuyu's hair is always immaculate. Does she know and hire her own stylist? lmao
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don't know if this is recent, but got7's youngjae looks awfully a lot like shindong when he's gained weighthttps://twitter.com/choisdef/status/1240553794645004295?s=20
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There does appear to be a resemblance, but that could just be their matching jowls.
Also how come Korean makeup artists always forget the top of the forehead when putting on those badly matched foundations? Do they just put makeup on the center of the face?
K-makeup is overrated.
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I guess it's a similar idea as forehead contouring, it keeps a natural shadow near the hairline? I just don't get why the foundation needs to be lighter, they aren't fooling anyone about the skintone of their idols. I swear it didn't use to be this bad
It spread so fast lol
Everyone (but us) seems to think Koreans have perfect skin and are more beautiful
When I visited SEA last year they were practically worshipping Koreans and some of them even wanted to be korean
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Yeah Korean fashion is also trending there
I dunno they kinda look like koreaboos, they look like Edward avila rofl
Of course. The only people that think he can sing and deserves lines are his stans>>79677
This. It always looks so clownish imo
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cause the SK government has pumped billions into starting the korean wave to get them even more billions in GDP. all of the kpop hype, all the k beauty hype, all down to the south korean government getting hype on communism
I kinda wish he had a thread here but everything has already been said about him on PULL so there’s no point……..
I feel like we would go in much harder through lol
well they aren’t idols….
by your logic no one should criticize food unless they’re gordon ramsey
I hate listerine worst mouthwash lol
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They sacked the guys who were shitty to her, and I think a fair bit of the production team. She’s still kept her job which is pretty good.
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So the new YG group will be self-producing…BP is absolutely fucked lmao
Here's their performance (sorry idk how to add video itself from the link)https://twitter.com/yg_flower/status/1240626603367043073
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Which females self-produce aside from Soyeon (and Minnie) currently? IU, girl from Akmu, but no real female idol groups do it aside from Mamamoo who are significantly non-idol like in other ways. People may not care about males doing it anymore, but if I'm not mistaken, it is still uncommon for Korean females to do so.
this is because they are under the chinese branch so the korean branch rarely talks about them. i also think baby monsters should be changed; imagine being 28 doing a reunion/anniversary with the name baby monsters lol it’s too childish
i hope that baby monsters have backup plans for when they get 2ne1ed. if all the members are like the chinese ones, they are going to be pretty good rookies, but they’ll be thrown away when yg crashes or don’t turn out to be better than a group like snsd
Honestly, pretty good singing/rapping for idols in 2020, esp under YG. Hopefully the singing one keeps up with vocal health and doesn't end up like Bom and Rose.
Also, if they're Chinese they can run away to China and start promoting there if YG locks them in the basement.
this is god awful. the performance and the cringy ass lyrics.>>79755
yes, people also believed beyonce wrote a portion of her stuff until the sia thing. some still havent caught on. people lack critical thinking abilities.
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he really thinks…
He’s delusional but I don’t think he’s calling himself an idol
He has a lot of nugu idol “friends” he even lives with one called AOORA who makes cringe music
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don’t forget the gaybaiting anon
Tbh I don't really find anyone in Exo to be particularly attractive/interesting. I just hope that SM starts an entirely different BG aside from NCT that can take the songs that would have gone to Exo. >>79833
It's always bound to happen at some point. I think if Exo had a solid successor I probably wouldn't be as sad.
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Seungri is allegedly dating some nugu rookie… allegedly.
My only question is if they are dating…. why? He's a monster.
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What? I thought they became idols because they loved singing and dancing? NOOOOO
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ngl I’m digging jimins Pokémon gloves
I was curious to see who she is so I searched Seungri's name on twitter.
This is fucking nuts. The amount of stans he still has is disturbing. Kpop fans are really brainwashed huh
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You can see her thinking "what am I doing with my life?" for a split second right after he bumps her.>>80063
Just you. He walks away with his back facing the stage. If you reverse the gif, he'd be backing onto the stage.>>80072
Apparently she made her Instagram public immediately after dating rumors broke out, so definitely for fame and publicity at minimum.
Because deep down they also know that BTS fame will evaporate eventually.They constantly lash out at other fandoms because they feel threatened.
It irks me when they say BTS is the nations BG or whatever.BTS is just a cash cow,nothing else.
EXO's rappers suck,but at least they have decent vocalists and performers,whereas half of BTS are useless.Bighit doesn't know how to utilize them as a group.Most members are better off solo,especially the rap-line.
oh, i thought it was taemin looking a bit under the weather.
they all gotta stop sharing the same dr kim
from soobin deep throathing a cheese stick to thishttps://twitter.com/TXT_officialbh/status/1170568160078172160
txt need to explain
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Uh, guys, I saw this hastag on twitter…
Do you all think it's burning sun related?
not to minimod but this is an imageboard so pls post the video next time >>80210
this is absolutely disgusting, jesus christ. i hope everyone involved in abusing those women suffers
From what I understand, these are chatrooms used by men to trade “revenge porn” and torment their victims
. Not directly Burning Sun related, but the same mentality is behind both. SK police refuse to do anything about it, hence the petition.
MONSTA X's Hyungwon apologizes to fans for keeping in contact with former member Wonho
"I think there are a lot of MONBEBEs who can't sleep at this late hour because of me, which is why I'm leaving this post. Firstly, I want to say that I'm really sorry to MONBEBE. Whatever the reason, in the end, it was because we became complacent. Things are rough in many ways these days, but we are always trying to show our best sides. We are incredibly sorry and apologize for not being able to do so. In the future, we will work harder and become more careful so we don't cause MONBEBE to have a hard time. Please watch over us as we reflect and fix our faults. I've realized a lot while writing this. I am worried about more misunderstandings happening, but I couldn't just stay still after seeing the comments. This is a space for MONBEBE and MONSTA X but because of us, many people are having a hard time and seeing this makes my heart hurt. My post may not fix everything, but I leave it here with a careful heart hoping that you won't hurt anymore. We are lacking in many ways and aren't perfect, but we will make MONBEBEs proud. I wish everyone sleeps well tonight and isn't hurting. Please stay strong again today MONBEBE."
But oppas are best friends and a real family! They aren't there for the money. ←- So what happened with this narrative now, phaha.
I mean, everyones fame will evaporate eventually
twitter nctfags are starting to become more annoying on their own than any army/exol beef ive ever seen
like coming for bts AND exo when you stan NCT is pretty delusional and a surefire way to eliminate potential allies
and change of topic: when will forced raplines finally stop, theres nothing wrong with all vocals groups. sm and co will never scout actual underground rappers so why bother
>>80223>MONSTA X's Hyungwon apologizes to fans for keeping in contact with former member Wonho
literally what's the issue
and I'm not gonna read this wall of text, autist
You can't read 5 sentences? Who is the stupid one here! It's just his apology letter for people like you.
And yes, it's wrong. You've worked with this person for so many years claiming you're friends. Then you apologies for secretly meeting him. It shows you what your priorities are.
PS: It's probably too long of an explanation for you to read, tho. Congrats, if you've reached till here.
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Damn looks like that stray kidz member really did get kicked out. I wonder what he did.
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a buddy ranted about how seventeen is praised for their choreo but gfriend doesnt get recognition after carats got seventeen trending after they released their new japan comeback.
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BigHit made an official announcement saying that they are keeping an eye on the COVID-19 to see if they need to cancel more concerts, but didn't say anything about canceling the america part of the tour. That's such crap to say right now, since the us is getting hit with the virus and with the way the government is acting, I really don't think that a month from now things are going to be better.
Also, it's a little ot, but it bugs me how they are like "we are looking to find seoul dates" which is clearly meant for their korean fanbase but don't mention the possibility of looking for dates in other countries if they got to cancel shows there.
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The telegram sex offender guy was following momoland's yeonwoo. that girl has the worst luck in attracting weirdos, it was only a while ago leeteuk was creeping on her on ighttps://www.koreaboo.com/news/former-momoland-yeonwoo-finds-telegram-sex-offender-cho-joo-bin-instagram-followers-list/
you got a data dump regarding those files?
please dont be vague and lay it on the table.
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Found this group in my recommended, imagine thinking you can debut this
the styling is absolutely tragic as well… the huge ugly necklace etc>>80440
like who? dont keep the milk to yourself anon
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So Johnny from Nct wore a cock ring as a necklace… at this point stylists are doing it on purpose, from male idols wearing lingerie, bdsm harnesses to this
they're doing nothing.>>80540
what did ye expect from an idol?
the critical thread was so successful cause they(idols) got issues.
first time- no schedule, alone with thoughts, less fangirls trying to bang him and tell him how amazing he is-, hence the > poor uwu me, tell me nice things
im sure he aint the only idol struggling.>>80547
hell be fine. >>80553
calm down, this used to be critical. get used to the calling idols out.
i can smell your femcel stench over here,take a shower troglodyte.
There is a difference between calling idols out and you being a aspie with aspd.
You didnt really answer one of anons question who asked you if you were one of those people who made fun of sullis ans haras death so im guessing you were one of them.
Living off CF deals is not really a new business model for girl groups, it's not like they make money off digital sales. It's just that they're targeting more high end brands than most girl groups who would end up with chicken and soju cfs.
It's a bit of a waste considering BP can get decent audiences (afaik) and could make money touring. Wasting potential for no evident reason is kinda the story of YG's life though, aside from Big Bang.
the literall buisness model is: money you earn-money you spend to earn those=profit so idt bp is in a bad situation allbeit not the most satysfying one for kpop music (gag reflex
V's pathetic "uwu I really don't wanna be here"-expression makes me wanna punch is plastic face.>>80767>losing against ncshit
Welp, that's officially the beginning of their end. My prediction is that next year they will no longer be relevant enough to get invited to american shows.
I know most people here hated it but Kick It is still way better than ON, so I'm glad NCT won, it was justified in my eyes.
Is there a reason that ON flopped so hard amongst ratmies though? I'm so used to them hyping up their songs even if they're awful.
i don't have twitter or any other thing so i didn't even know it flopped with them. i guess that anon >>78484
was right though.
btw, talking about ratmies, does anyone with twitter have any screen shots of tweets with fights that k-ratmies and i-ratmies were having about the postponement of the us tour?? i kinda wanna see lol
I think also that it doesn't help that their popularity wasnt real. They were on that list the Kardashians and Ariana Grande were on for having half of their Instagram followers being fake and then BTS is one of those artist that alter venues to make it seem like it was a sold out show when really they just didn't sell a bunch of seats. They were an online trend. I noticed many online influencers like stealthespotlight or just people in general seemed more consumed by wanting to be "on trend". That's why artist like Ariana and many other American artist alongside all these new kpop groups don't really hold any longevity. Yeah 7-10 years can be argued to be a long time but these people's PR teams are calling them "legends" and "pop princesses" and there's no way any of these people deserve that title. BTS dressed up as and called themselves the new Beatles when the Beatles (although I don't like them nor support them after hearing about all the stealing and domestic abuse) hold cultural relevancy 70 years later. Everything is extremely fake and no one is actually as popular as their PR teams say they are and the moment someone new comes along whether the decline is slow or fast it's a wrap. Then they start to throw tantrums and mental break downs because they are forced to realize that they aren't actually as talented or as important as Stan Twitter once told them they were.
Sorry that was long I've just been thinking about this a lot.
I think the Korean fans would love it if they weren’t as popular in the us, but as far as concert tickets go they are and that’s what makes them come back. And I thought the scandal would translate in mediocre sales for their Korean concerts, especially the October ones since sales happened at the end of September, right after the scandal. But no.
As for USA award shows, which ones are they even attending, the billboards? I’m sure they were gonna attend those and are they even relevant? As for the Grammys, we all know why they were invited lol.
I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again, their downfall won’t start when the gp loses interest because they were barely interested in the first place. It will be when their own fans start resenting them so they need to do something actually scandalous for that.
Or they will slowly lose interest once they start enlisting, it will be anticlimactic.
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Big hit basically said they care more about international fans than the Korean ones
Current Korean vs US drama is koreans being pissed at V for saying he hopes On drops to number 2 in the charts and his solo thing goes to number 1
Bighit may favor the international fans but BTS clearly doesn't, lmfao.
Can someone fact check my understanding? I was a BTS fan during their debut days but kind of checked out of kpop in 2015 so I didn't witness the BTS explosion. From what I can remember, BTS was in the same position as ATEEZ years ago where their international fanbase was a lot larger than their Korean fanbase (not trying to insinuate ATEEZ is the next BTS fyi). I Need U was their first public friendly hit with Kfans but they only got major GP attention with BS&T.
>>80840>only got major GP attention with BS&T.
If by major GP attention you mean kpop fans then yes. They never got as popular as bigbang before the gp. Koreans barely knew them until 2018/2019, after they got Western recognition (Billboard charts/award and UN speech).
They've really peaked already though.
u have a point tbh. afaik mmm are the only popular gg with astounding vocals (compared to rv, tw
and bp) for 3rd gen atm.
(wish i could embed both links apologies)
I just wanna share this awful of a musical transition. gross. its like MJ going from a topic of ''they dont care about us'' to a capitalistic shit song like ''imagine'' holy fuck. biggest reason i hate bts today from them being my first group
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Lmao ratmy logic
i am a itzy fan lmfao, i genuinely liked her at debut but her current attitude puts me off, few times she has complained about not being at the center of attention, sideyeing a senior actress at the mama red carpet and mma, glaring at izone mostly at Wonyoung, looking digusted/embarrassed by being near the members, i'm not here for that negative nergy tbh.
she seems to be masking her insecurities with an obnoxious personality truest me i've tried liking her she's just digging herself in a deeper hole every day. it wont be a matter of time before she gets immense hate from pann girls like suzy and nayeon did at their rookie days.
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new sm trainee, nice eye bleach after seeing nct's mess visuals lately
damn. tbh though you rite.
but atleast he looks visually pleasing even in a ugly angle.
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that moment when i couldnt pick out that shindong wasnt a member until i enlarged the picture, gross.
Alright this whole sperg is going to sound legit retarded but has anyone ever started to learn about a group and then realize the members are assholes and that you're better off abandoning them?
I tried getting into The Boyz bc they have some cute, funny members like Younghoon and Juyeon, but they're in a group of 11 guys and pretty soft spoken anyways so it's hard to watch variety with just moments of them. So I wanted to like the entire group until I found out that the youngest member Eric was a bully growing up, which includes even sexually harassing female classmates (slapping girls' asses?!) pre-debut, which is confirmed by multiple people who went to school with him.
If you want to read about him and the victim
, here's the interview:https://kpopalypse.com/2019/09/11/kpopalypse-interview-tvixxbar-eric-from-the-boyz-alleged-bully-victim
In their videos he still comes off as an annoying little shit tbh. In the video I linked, Q is faking crying while Eric laughs like it's a sick joke, and the other members aside from a few others look hella uncomfortable either trying to laugh along or just looking dead bored like Juyeon. Q has been in controversy because he was photographed drinking and smoking with Nancy and another girl group member, with Eric, who I'm not surprised to see in this situation given that he's an asshole. https://netiizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2019/06/momoland-nancy-and-boyz-q-spotted-at.html
Drinking and smoking are not indicators of character but whenever a member hangs out with a confirmed asshat regularly & is closest with them of all members, I will justifiably judge their character. Obviously I know that they're all in a group but the shit that Eric formerly put this girl through is awful and she has never received any apology. If someone like this was in my group I would purposefully keep my distance and not interact with them as much as possible.
Aside from Eric being gross, there's also controversy with two members, Sunwoo and New, for writing some sexist BS pre-debut:> Under a question that says, “If you could have a pet abroad, what do you want to have?” the answer, allegedly written by Sunwoo, states, “A foreign woman [laughter].” Similarly, the second post asks, “What kind of pet do you want to raise?” and the answer says, “A woman [laughter].”
People say dumb shit when they're younger so idk how to feel about this but it's pretty distasteful. Fans actually wanted them both kicked out of the group following that scandal, lol.
So anyway, this is my retarded rant/question. The accounts of Eric are probably some of the worst I've heard for such a young idol and I've been into kpop since 2013. I've never had this issue before with BGs that I've liked (surprising, I know, but my UB was Jonghyun of Shinee). I'm wondering if any of you like one of the non-shitty people in a group with asshole members and somehow find a way to be a fan of them without having to see the asshole portion of the group. I know akgae fans exist but in this case, I think being an akgae would almost be warranted, granted that you're not wasting your time hating on the asshole members but rather just ignoring them.
I think I'm going to just stick to fancams and not even stan the two likable members out of discretion that they may in fact be just as bad as their fellow members, but maybe some actual fans of The Boyz could weigh in opinions on this?
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I am absolutely dumbfounded how this is the best looking dude in the group. Though Jaehyun did achieve something bc I legitimately never found someone's side profile to be heinous before this.
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idol visuals are overrated tbh, i wonder about the day when we will have someone with these visuals
i really don't understand how they can be so delusional, i hope they're trolling
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samefagging, to pinpoint: 3rd generation and 4th generation visuals are wack*
the standards for them are so low so ig why people fawn over actors visuals as they look actually human and not like glammed up kids dolls
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He looks like a creepy ajusshi in this picture. Ngl I was kind of surprised when I first saw it
Any attractiveness he might have is eclipsed by his arrogance
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I don't get it, pls explain? Bts has 7 members and they're all Korean? Even if one or more of them aren't like 100% Korean by blood they all grew up or at least attended school in Korea so they're at least culturally Korean so…how are they more diverse than nct?>>80869
Isn't she the rapper? I think she sings sometimes but I wouldn't give her so much credit to the point of saying she drags them down vocally…that's like saying jhope drags down bts when he occasionally sings. That's not his job so I'd let it slide.>>80871
Wow am I just a moron? I don't understand a damn thing yall are talking about today. I may be wrong but these songs arent intended to be a continuation of each other, they're not necessarily related and I don't see what it has to do with MJ or Imagine. You guys are trying way too hard to make interesting connections and references and shit and you really don't have to, just state your opinion and go, you're mucking up the thread with all this gibberish.
nta but yeah you might be a moron.
The Mj/Imagine was a comparison. The anon was I guess talking about how bts so easily switched their tune and how inflated their egos are now. (I looked this up) Baepsae is about privilege and how they had to work hard for where they are now and Ddaeng is the opposite
Well she can't rap or dance either and looks horrendous (easily the ugliest in a group full of fuggos) so what then? Next you'll tell me her job is to be awkward and beaver toothed so the others look better in comparison >>80966
Kdramas are more popular than Kpop in a lot of places anyway, lots of Kdrama fans barely follow Kpop
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I didnt say Yuna was mean, her attitude is off putting.
learn how to read.>>80955>blown out of proportion>rbf
sure glaring at people when they greet a group with a stank face is rbf and blown out of proportion, this is the critical thread as well. people blow everything out of proportion w no receipts lol
stop being sensitive and a pussy if someone doesnt like a idol, rbf example is Krystal, looking blankly at somebody is rbf, glaring and rolling your eyes is not unless you have astigmatism theres no excuse for that
I've seen that clip before and idk i don't wanna draw conclusions from that. I used to love mmm's old music but their personalities have always seemed a bit off to me.
They don't really like to be around other idols, which, there's nothing wrong with that but it seems to me that all the praise they've been getting got a bit to their heads and at times they seem really arrogant and i'm getting strong ~not like other girls~ vibes from them.
I actually was a TBZ stan before their debut, I stopped stanning after their debut song because it was so bad and they've honestly not improved at all.
Eric had bully rumors all the way back then as well and he looks legit evil not even exaggerating.
Q also seems retarded, I roll my eyes whenever someone mentions them
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Their fans believe they're giants now but I just think the guys on the right are extremely short
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Well Kevin has an obsession with female pop artists which says enough about him. But imo it takes a certain few types of men to specifically become pop stars; idk if it's just because I'm an American where men have very fragile masculinities but even in Korea, I imagine that a lot of straight Korean men would be uncomfortable with the not-so-straight gaybaiting that male idols tend to do. Showbiz and dancing is typically something that gay men flock to, and that's especially for the ones that stan female pop artists.
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Kim, there’s people that are dying.
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If Kai was too short with too weird proportions he wouldn't have gotten that Gucci deal. He looks fairly normal compared to other people at fashion shows.
My theory is that agencies are choosing bobble-headed kids on purpose, because their features and expressions are more easily seen on stage (which is very important for idols), plus it makes them look skinnier.
Then there is always some that pull the "without their korean fans they wouldn't be where they are!!" trying to justify it as well, but its just clear that they don't care about international fans. They would have disbanded as nugus if they had only had korean fans, but they just don't wanna admit that oppa doesn't give a shit about them.>>81062
It's sad, but chances are he is not going to be able to "grow out of it" since it looks like that group is kind of already very plastic looking as rookies. And I know it's not even that related, but his sister too…
im surprised its such a bad pic considering they use heavy filters non stop>>81057
im sure most male kpop idols will have a slight obsession with female kpop artists, models and generally plastic enhanced females. >>81097
kek. those large heads look surreal. the pic must be manipulated…ivanka has a small head…but that small?>>81120>makes them look smaller
why is smaller better? isnt it the overall proportions that matter? how well they go with each other.>>81126
we got everything here
Ofcourse >>"TVXQ is simply a perfect group. All in all, their musical quality is extremely high. World Class."
He seems like he wanted to make TXT his own Tvxq but failed miserably, SM stan in disguise lol
But atleast TVXQ knew how to sing, everything else was ripped off hella. Like a Walmart version, shows he has no direction in talent when you compare the debut stage of Replay and Txt's cover. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVBQEwrkd1U
His whole company's gimmick being mini JYP since all his artists suck at singing.
tvxq debuted in a serious drought of boygroups, they pretty much kickstarted the 2nd gen of idol groups. they had to be made up of some really good singers and dancers to get popularity, along with mixing trends at the time with newer concepts. txt on the other hand debuted during a real kpop boom where all a group needs is a surface level "unique" concept to stand out enough to build a fanbase. i've always thought super junior and shinee got way more push from sm post-2009 because of the tvxq split and hiatus, so maybe txt will get something unique and have to try harder once bts enlist
tvxq had some really terrible stages in their first year though, they had 2 and a half good singers and 2 really good dancers (with the other 3 generally being good enough) but they only got so good because they had a fuck ton of live performances when they were ditched in japan to build up a fanbase and the practice paid off
I swear to god when RV debuted Irene was a designated main dancer and not the lead behind Seulgi. Does anyone here remember their debut era and that Be Natural dance video (not the actual cover song)? People were hyping Irene until it became evident that Seulgi surpassed her so hard in dancing that there was just no chance. >>81120
Companies don't want people with bad proportions but they go for them anyway bc the idol industry isn't "exclusive" anymore. Once upon a time, in the ancient era of first generation Korean pop music, there was a very small number of groups debuting and plastic surgery/makeup were not that advanced. The success of the idol group model was completely unpredictable which meant that only those who showed absolute promise in looks and/or talent could debut.
LSM of SM said that talent can be taught to pretty kids, not the other way around. I have to agree; although plastic surgery and makeup have advanced a lot, ugly idols that get a shit ton of PS rarely have that star quality that radiates from an (at least) mostly naturally beautiful idol. When I say naturally beautiful, I mean face, body, aura; even though YooA has had a ton of work done for instance, she still was regarded as attractive beforehand and imo today she is a great example of what an idol should look like. But, probably like some of you, I never understood the proportions thing until I saw DIA's Chaeyeon's fancams. Idols with great proportions are regarded on a God-level compared to those who just have pretty faces. But I myself don't have the best proportions and unless leg lengthening surgery becomes safer, the most that one can do is fix is their face, but it isn't going to change the aura that you project, even if you're talented. Luna is an example–even when she starved herself and was looking like BoA a bit, she still didn't please netizens or gain any fans/recognition. Rip.
It's a shame that SM doesn't live up to their "visual flower garden" title as of the 4th gen. I know that this thread is full of NCT stans but I'm going to put it bluntly and tell you that NCT's visuals and their proportions are a complete downgrade. I know EXO and Shinee are short af but compare look at Kai, Sehun, and Minho–they're all relatively tall, with handsome faces and great proportions. Taeyong has a great face but he can't change his proportions or height; it's like Irene where netizens say "only if she was taller" or "only if she had better proportions" because honestly Taeyong could be a God-level visual if he was taller.
I'm curious to know how the members of NCT were recruited/discovered. I recall that the SM casting manager that casted TVXQ among other handsome SM idols left and scouted for The Boyz, which is why we have haggard ass NCT (aside from WayV) and why Cre.Ker Ent has easily 3 it boy visuals that would have been perfect for SM but are in some rando nugu group that will truthfully, likely never take off.
I'm also of the opinion that if LSM reverted to the same standards which produced a group like TVXQ, their fourth gen group wouldn't be struggling so hard–and yes, they are still struggling in comparison to past SM BGs, even while riding on their better-looking successors' coat tails. Oh and they'd probably benefit from picking a center for their group that wasn't a delinquent, because NCT was literally over before they even started.
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Yeah he is apparently. I googled it and this came up.
I never knew head size attractiveness was a thing before kpop. I think it's just cause they simply have larger heads. I've seen other idols with western celebrities where the celebrity is much bigger and taller yet has a way smaller head.
That's probably one of the many reasons they're so fascinated by white celebrities and praise the Korean ones whose heads are considered small.
I find this whole thing super weird. Like…just just a fucking head dude?
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i know idols faces are always smoothed to oblivion, but its so weird seeing the filter so obviously just moving around the cheeks
2 and a half good singers? they had 4 vocalist 2 being main and 2 being lead Yunho being sub vocal TXT isnt even near that level, they have no positions for anybody and Bighit wants to promote them as an all rounder group, thats the issue. No one is complimenting the others skills because they're all at the same level.
Atleast TVXQ could harmonize and not go off tune but TXT, oh sweeties…https://youtu.be/O8HfnuuulUo?t=755
(12:36 seconds in the video they start their harmonizing if i didnt copy url at the time stamp)
TXT's concept is also not original at all, Verivery promoted with that concept for a year before them and their debut song was actually decent. TXT has nothing to set them apart. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0NHj1g5taxk
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reminds me of exo l having to watermark a picture of Kai's back, legendary
tvxq are the only kpop group i ever stanned, i'm really not trying to put them down >2 and a half good singers
they were all more competent than most idols still, they easily held their own and could harmonise really well, there's just no point in pretending that in 2004 they all had equal vocal skills. the overall talent level of idols would be a lot higher if the average/middle of your group vocals skills is changmin, but he was also 15 when he debuted and had some rough moments in the early years. tvxq's constant live performances made their lives from 2004 vs 2008 on completely different levels and i don't think many groups show such a difference within a short time period. "they improved so much!" at this point is a comment reserved for idols who start off terrible and work their way up to sort of okay>TXT has nothing to set them apart.
that's true, but if teenage stans already want a group to be unique they can project it onto them as long as the group has the most basic, barely there hint of something different
Jaehyun has a rancid profile that detracts from the frontal view of his face. His face looks good at a few angles but uncanny in motion. I think it's his jaw shave, idk.
Johnny is like 6'0 max (and ugly) so everyone else in the group is at most 5'10, not to mention that the other members you've just mentioned are at least a couple inches shorter than him and Doyoung and Jungwoo are ugly as hell.>>81205
Chinese people seem to have a lot of the features that Korean idols should theoretically have; I know China has a fuckton of people but I've talked to non-Korean Asians who have told me point blank that the beauty standards are naturally unattainable. Has anyone else noticed a massive boom in visuals being Chinese since the 3rd gen? Even Jang Wonyoung and Jun Jihyun have some/are of Taiwanese descent.>>81229> they were all more competent than most idols still, they easily held their own and could harmonise really well
Kek this reminds me of Everglow having issues with their music at their concert recently. The audio went out multiple times and instead of the singers singing live in replacement of the music, it was the fucking audience who sang the song while they danced, fucking LOL jfc. Just shows how shit the idol industry is today.
Chinese beauty standards are on another level. I was into dramas and idols for a while but i realized how much more fake and restricted everything is over there. And pretty much everyone looks super attractive. In kpop or kdramas lookism is standard but you see a lot of average-looking people whereas in the cpop and especially cdrama world almost everyone is tall and and very attractive imo (probably why they only have a handful of watchable dramas with actual capable actors). I find their faces (especially the men's) way more attractive as they don't have as much ps and the guys don't look like aliens with yellow hair and colored lenses.
You don't see those looks in the kpop or kdrama world, which is not a bad thing at all cause it shows that at least korea isn't as obsessed and strict about looks (but again, attractiveness is largely subjective so it might just be my taste).
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Are you thinking of this? I never heard of the n-word thing
This has to be a fucking joke lol
The lyrics are a goddamn SoundCloud stereotype
I can't believe that people take screens like that seriously.
I can photoshop same shit in a few minutes, even in paint.
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Yeah, there's not a single chinese kpop idol I can think of who's considered ugly by knets.
I always wondered why chinese pop or dramas aren't more popular.
Neckbeards go for jpop idols because they're the next-door type so you feel like you've really got a chance, kpop idols are either cute or sexy so their fans still can at least dream abou them, but China can literally pick the most attractive people out of over a billion. For some time I watched a couple of their shows and to me many of the female celebrities look downright intimidating. Extremely skinny, probably plastic but in a different way than Koreans, nearly all of them keep their hair dark and then wear stark white makeup with red lips. They also don't really act cute. So, one would think that especially girls would flock to that (like as in girl crush or "I wanna be like her when I'm older")…
The girl on the left is a very popular actress and on one show she got paired up with ex-Exo's Luhan - who might be chinese, but fits korean beauty standards (no jaw, extremely soft facial features, absolute twink body), so naturally she looked like a total chad next to him lol
I think it's more because of the political nonsense that comes with China that turns people off. It may make it appear less inviting with stupid stuff being said like attempting to ban ~hiphop/black/ghetto~ culture and various other things whether they went through with it or not. Then people found out about the concentration camps and the attempts to colonize some parts of Africa and I don't know people seem uncomfortable. I'm not saying china as a whole should be judged for these things it's just that's how some people feel.
But I also don't get why people have to choose. I like Korean pop culture and Japanese pop culture at the same time not to mention the cultures from my own background. I don't really get why 3rd and 4th generation kpop fans feel like they have to choose. You don't have to become a Korean nationalist inorder to listen to kpop.
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This is off topic but Chinese actresses really are the move… jnetizen girls love them too, especially angelababy.
I felt it when an anon upthread said kpop idols look like kids dolls (Bratz etc) brought to life. They can be pretty I guess but there always seems to be a gaudy look to them. Chinese actresses also look unrealistic but more in a goddess way… even the plastic ones have a natural feel somehow. I love how a lot of them have classy/mature vibes
The majority of people like the concept of stanning a group of attractive people. There's hardly any boy groups in the west and they're always fug af.>>81275
They love Chinese visuals but their xenophobia runs deeper than that. Chinese idols are fine to them and even stannable if they're in a Korean context, living a Korean lifestyle, but the second they do something slightly wrong, knetz turn against them instantly.
Also because China is an economic powerhouse but it isn't universally developed like Korea is.>>81280
This is what every non-Korean Asian will agree on.
I mean just look at how big China is lol
Literally one of the most diverse places on earth
Pray for the guy who looks like a irl anime character
fr tho hope he’s fine
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He was apparently joking