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>Let's collect 12 incels and replace half of their faces with plastic, girls will love it!
What kind of genius knew this would work out? How did they see any potential in any of them at all?
They look they stink, like they have neither slept nor left the house in ages because they're on 4chan and playing games 24/7.
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lol it’s mind boggling how different the sky castle kid looks rn compared to just a few months ago
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You forgot xiumin>>48647>in just a few months
Tell me more anon kek
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That pic is too flattering, he was way fatter, a mini Shindong lol
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He went to school in the 2000s/2010s, only a turbo loser would have hair like that
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>>48647>born in 2004
Allkpop is retarded, they clearly shaved of half of this kid's face.
How is this supposed to turn out when he's a real man? Everything will look saggy.
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Funny thing is that pre-surgery Baekhyun looks exactly the same as millions of other ugly incel koreans that women hate.(racebait)
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He looks like the standard boy group members debuting in the 90s. He would have been considered handsome back then.
Can you stop spamming
We get it, he is ugly
Stop promoting him
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Not with his underbite jaw he wont. I wonder how much jaw surgeries he had to get rid of his underbite.
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Sehun and chanyeol were the only members who also looked decent even before pre-surgery so i can understand why sm scouted them..but the other members are a mystery and sm probably gave away almost a million to fix the other members faces.
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JK is back to his cute phase. I think he knows his Korean fans like this type of thing better.
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isn't she supposed to be the 2nd best dancer in BP?
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You know what pre-surgery Chen reminds me off? He reminds me off those weird anti-social ugly nerds in anime who end up killing everyone
lmao thanks anon
why is that her lower body moves so weird
He actually looks cute there, he just has a bad haircut. Btw curb your autism, anon.
I thought summer was over… This thread so far and the bottom half of the last one have been full retard.
>>48687>Sehun and chanyeol were the only members who also looked decent
And coincidentally they're also the most untalented ones, who would have thought that
I remembered reading about that military exemption thing years ago before bts and now really found a very old article saying that exo fans (or supposedly exo haters) also tried to achieve thathttps://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2013/10/more-crazies.html
Didn't work out back then, won't work out for bts
Stupid question but why don't they take just a little bit off? Do they have to chop off the whole damn jaw?
And how the hell do they heal so quickly in just a couple of months?
>>48718>>Most patients return to work after 1-2 weeks, but many return even sooner. About 5-6 weeks post-operation, most patients can return to their normal routines including exercise and going back to the gym.
I was prepared to think maybe he did something else but it seems it doesn't take that much to heal? 1-2 months. So it's obvious he did it, along with eye surgery.
Already saw some articles saying how he lost his "baby fat" lol people are dumb as fuck.
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You sound underage. How on earth are these botched flowerboys with their bleached skin and melting nostrils more aesthetically pleasing than 2nd gen idols? Yeah the styling was hideous in the 2000s, but at least most idols kept their tan skin and didn't completely obliterate their bone structure to fit rigid beauty standards that will change within the next 5 years anyways. And I say this as someone who was never a fan of any boy groups from the 2000s.
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current male idols look like clones of older ones lmao
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What is JYP doing to Twice? Why do they look like this?
plastic surgery, hair cuts, skincare routines, and puberty do wonders for people anon. it's not that hard to figure out . >>48698
being good looking. is a talent in korea kek >>48740
he wants them to look young enough for the uncle fans but old enough for the fake woke feminist stans and it's not working
Lay looks exactly the same but younger and going thru puberty>>48735
Well I wish he looked like Minho but I reallt don't see the resemblance>>48745
Honestly he truly looks like an alien ant and I say this as a thirsty bitch
Why do people do this if they are already famous??
People need to be more like Hwasa, she's fugly but she's famous and she doesn't need to change anything because she made it
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if she moves any harder she will break her knees >>48698
I really wished bts was crazy about draft-dodging so that the Korean general public would despise them like they did with big bang for a while. >>48713
can you be any more obvious?>>48740
stress, no sleep, soju and korean junk food while backstage
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Is that Chaeyoung? I thought anons were being harsh when they said she's fugly…>>48774
I feel like there are some younger anons here. Explains the pointless sperging.
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Why does Wonpil get constant praise for his vocals? He's almost Rose level of goat.
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and the thing is, they all use padding and shapewear, and list their weights and heights as lower and higher (respectively) than they actually are. it's a recipe for disaster, and for young fans it's easy getting sucked into all this deception. the contrast between idols flaunting mukbangs and starvation sweet potato diets is crazy.
not to mention idols actually promoting these shit diets, like here https://www.koreaboo.com/stories/fx-luna-revealed-lost-8kg-one-week/
where luna talks about going on a water fast for a week (but like, she doesn't recommend anyone at home do it!!! she's a professional!!)
while western pop also definitely causes problems promoting unhealthy body images (I think it was even worse in the 90s and 00s), at least there is some diversity being celebrated
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Seungeun from a nugu gg BVNDIT is scarily thin. She’s only fucking 18 and ppl have the nerve to say its natural
I almost threw up when I saw this fancam of that girl dancing.
Skin and bones
idk why their ceos think this is hot or appealing. korean patriarchy is weird.
that's why they better hope no female idols ever really 'make it' in America or else it'll just cause lots of people to ask some rather uncomfortable questions about the industry
That would actually be hilarious to see normal people on twitter confused and disgusted at fancams like >>48816
causing backlash. I mean we already had people like Ke*mstar making trending hashtags hating on Kpop anyways.
Sure bp has appeared in American festivals/shows, but they don't really get attention from the general public on the same level as if they were actually popular in America.
That's why >>48827
said "make it"
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Sad that these fans don't realize that in the end it's their faves that suffer
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One of the first things you find when you look up rosé on Twitter is a thinspo thread
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she looks like le 56% face
I know everyone's sick of nct talk and wbk about this but it made me lol
>The #1 idol that SM pushes is NCT Taeyong, but he sells less goods that Jisung who is the most maknae of the Dream team and who has the least experience
^Those are the numbers that NCT sold in their most recent goods. He also got the least views on his SuperM album unboxing video, even less than stupid Yukhei who only debuted a year ago.
All TY's popularity is smoke and mirrors. Why does sm continue to shill him so hard when he's just not likeable? It's such a waste of time.
>3. [+69, -17]>Taeyong used to f*king getting on the trending PANN posts every other day but nowadays he gets 2 posts per day, but even all those business posts about him aren't working. His fans are so stubborn they must be all ajummas
Mysides did his subby persona attract a bunch of ride-or-die old lady stans?
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snsd's sooyoung made her whole persona the foodie of the group which is hilarious considering how thin she was. how can this be normal?
I believe Kpop companies make girls get fillers in their cheeks just to hide how hideously underweight they are. Look at the difference between how Rose is looked at an AOA Jimin. People were shocked at AOA Jimin because her face showed her malnutrition along with her body even when Rose's body is about as thin or close to. So it's the same deal here with Sooyoung.
Ana members also likely adopt a 'foodie/glutton' persona for the cameras in order to hide their disorder. The companies know their way around it. I just don't get why they don't just let their idols eat and be done with it.
it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest. something has looked off about Roses face too, not exactly like surgery but something looks different, i wouldn't put it past yg to make her cover her ED face with fillers.>>48861
her cheeks specifically look puffy though IMO.
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Sooyoung, Yoona, Rose are all skelly but are shilled as big eaters. Momo has the same image but isn't as skinny and openly talked about eating ice and chewing and spitting on a vlive. Her weeb fans will ignore it tho
Yes I was surprised but not really @ him and Lucas not bringing views! Why does the company pushes them so much? I really dont get it.
Ten got me shook too bc I believe he had the 2nd most viewed video, just below Baekhyun. Maybe he has a lot of SEA fans like Lisa? Idk
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So I guess Somi's going to the instaqueen route now that YG is burning and her comeback is probably delayed?
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I've seen so many idols with terrible haircuts in predebut photos that I have to ask if having a shitty haircut is really that common in Korean schools. Can anyone please provide some insight on this?>>48717
Good luck with that because the "flower boy" thing has been a trend since the Joseon Dynasty.
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Can you imagine 2 years of peace and some kind of "fair musical competition" without crazy ratmy and BTS solely winning anything and everything?
Would be great if they would be all gone soon together with Jin.
One can dream!
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I wonder why some people shat on idols like uee, nancy, kyla, etc for having belly fat while praising taeyeon for the exact same thinghttp://kpopnewsnsd.blogspot.com/2010/04/snsd-taeyeons-belly-catches-huge.html?m=1
>Apicture has been revealed on the 29th on an online community showing Taeyeon's "Charming belly".
>The title of the picture was "Taeyeon's cute animated belly". the photo was taken during SNSD's concert in Shanghai, China. Taeyeon was also seeing the same ensemble in a performance in Korea in the concert but Chinese fans were more vigilant on the situation.
>Netizens find her belly "cute" and admires the milky complexion of Taeyeon's body. Although not all of the comments were nice, there were also negative comments towards the image
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Perhaps because she was the leader of one of the biggest girl groups and had lots of fans? She went through a chubby stage but was never really ‘fat’. She was really skinny most of the time
Kek I've always wondered if sm's favorite was everyone's favorite too. Damn, he must be so unlikable to not be popular after all that push
also>Yuta 3.1K>Taeil 3K
Lmaooo they hardly sell anything compared to the others, why are they even there? It costs way more to keep them around. Sm really fucked up with this "project"
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kek wtf is that elbow. i feel like if someone slices thru it you'd immediately see bone.
It's delusional to think that musical competitions and award shows were fair in Korea before BTS started to take over, or would be fair after they leave. All that would happen is big companies would go back to jockeying to have their untalented, undeserving groups sweep up all the daesangs based on company power the popularity they earned from it. Or some smaller company would pimp out their idols for one of the bigger awards. There's no such thing as parity or fairness in the Kpop music industry. That's always been so and BTS didn't affect that one way or another. In fact as much as you hate BTS, there's really no one else who could have received those artist of the year daesangs last year.
I'm sure SM would have NCT or Sperm start winning daesangs the second BTS is out of the picture. Or maybe Twice again. Or a Produce group (for the MAMA awards). Unless IU comes back then she'd win. Yawn. Same shit.
At first I also thought that this is simply because Taeyeon has the talent and a massive fanbase, but there are many older cases in which netizens also reacted rather kindly.http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2015/10/minah-shows-some-aegyo-tummy-at-recent.htmlhttp://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2013/02/telzone-more-tummy-fat-obsessions.html
Min wasn't even popular and still people didn't care.
I think the reason for them being harsher nowadays is incel-lite men invading every single space, the instagram/photoshop craze which results in people no longer knowing how normal bodies really look like and the fact that working out and looking toned in general is much more popular now than just a couple years ago. Wasn't Yuri like the first idol to ever really work out and to have some visible muscles?
Or maybe koreans just don't mind a little stomach fat, but hate thicker thighs like on Kyla.
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What a dream, but Bighit would never. Who's going to make them money for two years? txt is a flop and a girl group will never have the same amount of success as a boy group.
I also assume that Bighit knows that especially international stans will move on to someone else. 2 years is a long time.
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knowing her dad is probably behind the camera like pic related makes it worse.>>48954
don't do this shit>>48957
that'd definitely be ideal. Plus if I were one of the younger members I would be pretty annoyed that I have to enlist right away just because Jin has to (assuming that it's bighit's idea and not their own).
They gave her a bottle of water (?) during one of them and usually when you're at a point of fainting due to not eating even the smallest amount of food will do.
Obviously Blinks won't ever admit it.
Maybe this is bad of me to think but I wonder if many of those idols taking hiatuses to supposedly recover from health-related reasons are actually just recovering from plastic surgery.
G-Friend's Yuju definitely got her eyes done during her absence but you have delusional fans like the ones in the comments section claiming she's all-natural kek
Same anon. Her eyes in this pre-debut clip look considerably smaller for sure.
Plastic surgery being so rampant in K-pop is an issue but the lack of transparency about the lengths idols go to alter their appearances is what makes it worse. Too many impressionable young teens are made to feel worse about themselves. Many of them aren't directly told directly that their unnirs' pretty-colored long hair is just a collection of extensions, their slim yet somehow shapely figures is due to shapewear combined with eating disorders, and that their manhwa like faces are the work of Dr. Kim. If they were it would probably ruin the illusion idols set up for being "naturally" perfect.
>>48961>>knowing her dad is probably behind the camera like pic related makes it worse.
This is the same man who wanted to appear in his own daughter's CFs (and use said CF to promote this other daughter).>>48956
Most idols are probably on uppers to keep from fainting. I commend Rose and Lisa for having energy and being able to dance with those bodies though. I just wonder how long that's going to hold out. That's probably why they had to take so many breaks during their Coachella performances to catch their breath.
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There are several comments of people saying they went to school with her, confirming op's accusations. This is from years before her debut, why would they go out of their way and try to sabotage a random unknown trainee's future career by creating fake bullying stories? There obviously has to be some truth behind it.>So this story only interested me because I'm personally from New Zealand where Jennie Kim apparently attended school. It's actually kind of weird to note that I can take a 5 minute bus from my University to get to where she attended school. Anyway, the bullying story seems true from my own personal experiences. From my time in high school in NZ, I've known of many Korean's coming here to learn English and study abroad only to face the kind of bullying you would see in Korea- sometimes even worse. So yeah, not surprised. Not only do they get bullied by non-Koreans, but Korean people alike, it's actually quite sad.
I'd suggest reading through the comments, all of them are so negative, always with several hundred likes, everybody called her untalented, a bitch (and ugly). Why did she suddenly get so popular after debuting?http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2013/10/jennie-kim-doesnt-live-up-to.html?m=1
The rumors of her being an asshole irl came out right after YG released a photo of her and most people knew anything about her. The victims
ended up being right that she came to NZ as a child and moved back to Cheongdam-dong as a teen. It’s probably true since it’s obvious YG is shady and Jennie is a spoiled bitch
taeil is one of the few competent singers the group has
dont know about yuta though
Blackpink members may be taking Phentermine. It's an appetite suppressant. It also gives you high energy. Literally hard to sleep.
It needs doctor's orders though.
You know what's worse? That's not even her audition. I'm pretty sure that's her with a year or two of 'training' under her belt. >>48964>dont you know that panic attacks in kpop these days are coverups for ana induced lethargy, pregnancy, or plastic surgery
Also as an excuse to do a shit job in military service, I guess. It's an old story but still relevant that TOP can't go a minute without fucking something up https://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2019/03/top-clarifies-that-his-sick-leaves-were.html?m=1
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Why can't JYP come up with a concept for Twice without ripping off a legendary 2nd gen gg?
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This kpop dudes be feeding their fans delusions…
she probably said it in the rap video near the end of the video. yg just censored pipe, smoke, and the n word. such a woke queen
i feel kinda bad for wiz khalifa and wale now, she really butchered their songs.
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anon pls. why can't gen2 fags ever shut up? you are the kpop stan equivalent of boomers
*and around her acting skills
Kek rather listen to ring ding dong for 5h straight than ddu ddu ddu or anything by twice that is not fancy. Also than all of nct electro shit like cherry bomb>>49025
Do they really think she is a bad actor tho? Cause I just read hotel de luna ratings are above average. And that show is basically 90% her scenes w that costar dude
She's more respected than Suzy at any rate. I don't think Suzy could have pulled off that Hotel del Luna role. She feels more like a Bond Girl in the Vagabond trailer.
I don't really know if there's a female equivalent to D.O. or Im Siwan for female idols. I think Eunji from A Pink had a chance after Reply
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Looking mighty bad for sperm lol It seems like most exofags decided to boycott it so now the sale numbers are very low. https://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2019/09/enter-talk-shocking-sales-ranking-of.html?m=1
To be fair, 2ne1 was also cl and friends. At least cl could do a good performance, even if her bad girl shtick was cringy.
And they were likeable even if they weren't the best at their craft. Can't say the same about bp
>>49045>2nd gen kpop music was so much worse than the current kpop music.
I don't want to defend old groups or music, but what is supposed to be better about current kpop…?
Having the choice of either listening to bts, one of their wannabees or 100 different pedobait girl groups (whether they're cute or "girl crush") isn't good
. Kpop essentially was always and will always be the same, only the clothes and styling changes every year.
it’s a shame yg debuted a “pretty” downgrade of 2ne1. even the most untalented member of 2ne1 put effort into performing. correct me if I’m wrong, but it seemed like 2ne1 liked/tolerated each other for a while, at least.
they also didn’t speak in disgusting aegyo voices. that was nice.
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Gender ratio in girl group fansign events:
Girl group: male - female
Twice: 62 - 38
Red Velvet: 17 - 83
GFriend: 53 - 47
Blackpink: 13 - 87
Mamamoo: 4 - 96
Lovelyz: 80 - 20
Oh My Girl: 66 - 34
Gugudan: 64 - 36
Weki Meki: 63 - 37
Fromis9: 84 - 16
>>49059>keep gossipping about the most inane shit
Just admit that you're a stan and fuck off if you can't handle people calling your unnie's or oppars's music bad…>>49053>>49058
I'm still surprised that lovelyz, gfriend or omg have any female fans at all, but I guess those simply don't feel comfortable attending any of their shows or meets, that's why we don't see them (because who wants to be next to their creepy otaku male fans…)
Red velvet have it the best, they can enjoy having mostly girls and women as their fans while also not having to act super tough and badass like some other girl crush groups.
Anon, do you happen to have such a chart for boy groups as well? And what about the age of their fanbases?
fuck no but I'm not the first anon who was defending current gen groups. Your post was just stupid.>>49063>obviously it'll be better produced than sorry sorry cause 2009 v 2019 technology
your brain is smooth, featureless
He's the only member that doesn't get loud cheers during live performances no matter where they are. It's hilarious how it's loud for each member the whole time and then it just gets quiet at his part. Dudes got no fans and those sales just confirmed it.
Idk why taeil doesn't sell well though. Maybe because nct fans just don't like the way he looks? Not sure. He is the strongest singer in the group though
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I'm worried for all the farmers who stan that. Are you underage or just really dumb?
What kind of narcissistic asshole unironically says this about himself in tv?
>In the pre-release clip, MC Jun Hyun Moo asked Lucas, "Are you the most handsome in NCT?" Lucas lifted both of his thumbs up, and said, "Of course." Jun Hyun Moo then asked, "Who's the most handsome in the entire SM Entertainment?" Lucas replied, "Lucas."
I bet he grew up constantly being told how awesome he is and that he can do no wrong. His parents should have told him No sometimes.
They love shit like this on variety. He probably thinks he's hot shit but I don't think it's that bad, he's playing a role or exaggerating personality traits he already has.
Personally, I find him one of the most attractive new gen kpop boys, only if they didn't put him in that terrible flower boy styling.
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lmao it's rm's bday and jimincel posted this such an attention whore
BlackPink were supposed to be a bigger group and if they had more members perhaps there would have been other people to stabilize the group dynamics. But after Twice debuted in 2016 and did well and were known for being beautiful ("pretty girl next to pretty girl" bullshit) YG got pissed and jealous as he always does towards other people's success, scrapped his original girl group project, kicked out anyone not considered a visual (dunno how Rose got in but I guess he needed a singer and she looks okay with cakes of makeup and editing) and debuted the four girls we now know as BlackPink. He just wanted to prove to his buddy JYP that he can pull out some blow up dolls too and make them successful with a bit of YG Branding and Brand Name Clothes. It worked.
Problem is, YG has always been known to favor one person in the group over the others, particularly the richest. So the dynamics were off from the beginning. Then you have the problem that the girls never had to work or suffer together to be successful. They just debuted and were instantly successful off the backs of their 2nd gen (waaaah stop mentioning 2nd gen!!) seniors and the YG buff. They never went through a period where they needed to come together and strengthen their team work and work on their mediocre abilities to climb up. Success was handed to them on a silver platter. You can tell some members have zero appreciation for the group that made their unappealing, unspecial asses even as marginally relevant as they are.
Then you have all the hiatuses where they could have been practicing and strengthening their team work, team bond and bond with fans. In fact their skills and team work deteriorated. Once they did come back, the obvious favoritism of Jennie and hierarchy in the group caused a strain and can STILL be seen. No matter how many fake hugs they give each other on screen I can't forget Rose screaming at Jennie at Coachella and Jennie basically looking like she was telling Rose to fuck off.
Now you've got another hiatus and more laziness. The problem is they keep getting rewarded with success. They've still got fans who put them on a pedestal for their looks only, I'm sure male idols chasing after them, CF money in the bank, so they don't really need to work on their stage presence or skills. They are the epitome of the values Koreans seem to resent but still put on a pedestal: that Korea is an unequal society in which gold spoons always win because of their connections, and visuals (natural or paid for) will always beat hard work, talent and effort.
The problem is now YG is crumbling and there doesn't seem to be a straightforward plan for BP's future beyond just releasing photobooks and DVDs of them being pretty. Oh and rereleasing the same 5 songs they have. I'm sure that when YG needs more money they'll send them out on another tour, but the girls' bodies probably won't survive that and unlike with Twice, if one goes down, the show can't just go on as easily. Not to mention now you have parents chiming in and complaining about unfair treatment.
Seems like the girls are content to battle each other on instagram over who has the cutest pics. They're a mess and if their management doesn't improve drastically more of their fans will leave the fandom. Maybe it's for the better.
Lmao imagine being the least popular, it's your birthday, you think you'll finally get at least some attention and then jimincel posts semi-nudes. You think he gave him a call or an angry text message?
This whole thing is so annoying, in my country two hashtags of ratmon's birthday and one "happy chuseok" (a korean holiday) are trending over the 9/11 remembrance tweets. Why do so many people have to care so much about them?
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The difference between rat and jimincel's number of hearts and retweets tho. Just over all sad for the rat (forgive the shitty crop)
Their utter disregard for human health is why they lost out on Kris, Tao and JYJ.
SM promises to make random kids into stars but they don't want them getting TOO big or anything - they want the idols to be completely dependent on SM and grateful to the company for giving them the opportunity to become idols in the first place. It's why they used to choose poor kids like Yunho to debut, because low-income children won't have the will or connections to fight back against unreasonable demands such as adequate nutrition and occasional sick days off.
>>49086>Then you have the problem that the girls never had to work or suffer together to be successful. They just debuted and were instantly successful
My thoughts exactly. Almost every other current group has faced downs in their career.
Red Velvet's debut was only semi-successful, with Be Natural a total flop, and they had to wait 6 months for a first win with ICC only to flop pretty hard again when OOTN came out. Twice suffered through that joke of a reality show plus the Tzuyu controversy at debut; Cheer Up was a huge hit but even they didn't debut on the top of charts immediately with PAKs and 1m+ downloads like Blackpink did.
While RV and Twice still lack in stage presence, they feel like more of a unified team than BP do and seem to care about the groups they're in.
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>We love each other, we're like a real family!
Blackpink did not face or experience the hardwork other girl groups experienced both as trainees and as debuts.
Everything was handed to them on a silver plater so they dont want to improve or fix parts in which they are lacking like how other groups are.
Their fans are also very big enablers who will silence even other fans who give constructive criticism.
-When someone says that Jennie has a very bad attitude and that she needs to fix it, her fans will tell you that she is just a sassy person and that you should die.
-When someone says that Jisoo's singing is horrible and that she needs to improve alot, her fans will tell you that she is a great singer and that you should die.
-When someone says that Rose is decent singer but she can improve so much by fixing her breathing and vocal techniques,her fans will tell you she is the best vocalist in kpop and that you should die.
-When someone says that Jennie doesn't even try anymore and that she is lazy, her fans will tell you that she is just going through some things and that you should die.
-When people call out Blackpink for not having any chemistry with each other, their fans will show you a 10 second clip of them hugging each other to prove how they are all best friends and that you should die.
Now I'm actually kind of pissed. I don't give a damn about rat but did Jimincel really have to pull this shit? He knew their tweets' numbers of hearts and retweets would be compared.
I actually am tinfoiling here but I wonder if after his fuck up in France, RM called JM to chew him out calling him a damn drunk and telling him not to fuck up the group's bag and this is JM's retaliation: "I'm a fuck up and still more popular than you, hag."
We've seen RM annoyed with Jimin's drunken antics before.
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what happened to donghae…he has aged so badly i cant believe he is 32. He used to be my crush and was among the hottest members in suju but now he looks like rotten milk.
This is why I never got it when SMrats blamed the Chinese members and JYJ for fleeing. Hell, who knows how long D.O. has been planning his Katie Holmesian escape from that company. Right after he had his first big drama hit as an actor he decides to enlist in the military before EXO's tour, only to come back right when his contract expires with a new movie waiting for him. Dude knew what he was doing, hats off. I wouldn't want to continue working for those slavedrivers either.
Seohyun ran as soon as she could as well. She lost out on TWO massive opportunities - Architecture 101 that launched Suzy into superstardom, and Train to Busan, a massive hit, with a role written for her - all because SM didn't want her to become too big for her britches. They have always wanted to brand of the company to be bigger than the artist and they ruined themselves over it.>>49102
RV and Twice are still privileged compared to other groups from smaller companies who are truly united in their performances and chemistry, but even if you just look at those two groups the difference between them and BP are staggering. BP are like instagram models who are in a beauty youtuber-style feud but begrudgingly show up on stage together to secure a quick bag.>>49110
"and that you should die"
lmao this is so true
That seems to be a kpop wide issue. All of Itzy are rich too. I think with all the groups that debuted and disappeared without a trace but had no education to fall back on people realized it's too much of a gamble to try to become an idol if you don't have something concrete to fall back on. These are very different times than 2009 when it was like 20 groups competing against each other.
Nowadays yes, back then no.
Most of dbsk were poor, yunho even lived on the street for a while. In suju only siwon had money. Shinee were middle class, most of exo too, sans suho and tao (and lay as well?) who were well off. Now in nct most seem to be (very) rich.
I don't know for sure but I think the trainees in jyp and yg were always on the wealthier side or at least not as poor as some sm idols and the ones from smaller agencies.
But even exo and bts took some time until they gained popularity and as a result money and privileges, meanwhile bp ran around wearing gucci already pre debut and had a gigantic dorm with individual rooms. I can't imagine that other idols are very fond of them because of that.
Wow that's sad. Sehun was so young when they started and considering they lived and worked together 24/7 he probably didn't have anybody but them.
I think one of the reason why bts is so much more popular than them right now is because they're much better at faking their friendship.
Do you happen to know in which interview or show he said that?
Irene's the only one who fits strictly into SK beauty standards and many others. Yeri's face does too but she gets made fun of for her body's frame. I wouldn't say the rest of the members are ugly but they're all very girl-next-door-types and, honestly, would be considered visual holes in other groups.
Red Velvet's appeal with girls and women I think has to do with them being looks wise, and many of their song concepts fit into the 'girl crush' trend. Also there's this >>49133
. I can't really think of one member who plays up being super cutesy and girly.
>>49134>would be considered visual holes in other groups
Wendy maybe, but Joy is called pretty a lot. Seulgi is about average. Irene-Joy-Yeri are the Krystal-Victoria-Sulli of their group visually
Honestly even though Irene and Yeri's faces fit Korean beauty standards their bodies don't so maybe that's why fangirls aren't too intimidated by them; they're attractive as a whole but not impossibly perfect
we get it anon you feel ugly and are jealous>>49132
regular women can like attractive women. and their music is targeted more towards teen girls/younger women than other demographics anyways.
Interesting. I've seen a ton of comments on NB and the like of K-netizens saying Joy's ugly because of her face shape and mouth size. These comments were more common pre-debut before she lost weight and before Red Velvet but I still see them.
>why fangirls aren't too intimidated by them; they're attractive as a whole but not impossibly perfect
Bingo. I think this is part of the appeal for Twice as well. They're all average and aren't overwhelmingly pretty with the exception of Tzuyu–but even Tzuyu gets shit for having tanner skin and a round face. Each of the members also have kinda their own distinguishable gimmick as well (like Jeongyeon = cool model-like girl, Chaeyoung = fun-loving short-haired tomboy, Sana = cutesy genki girl, and so on).
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To Koreans Irene and Joy are considered very attractive, so attractive that men rather flock to cheerleader types like Twice or any of the other groups with loads of samey looking members who act cute. Seulgi really does give off a bit of a lesbian vibe, Koreans also always call her girl crush and obviously men don't dig that.
Wendy has the voice and nobody gives a fuck about Yeri, she was added to gain uncle fans for the groups, that's also why she got so much hate from their mostly female fanbase.
It was partly the same with SNSD and e.g. Kara's Gyuri, girls with a "goddess" concept simply feel like too much out of the league for nerdy gg stans.
Just look at this pic, if you were an insecure otaku, who'd you "dare" to fap to?
If a gg has many male fans that's obviously a turn off for women (and vice versa) so even though rv is conventionally pretty and feminine they're not cute enough for males and therefore likable in the eyes of girls.
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Found the defensive mamamoo stan.
For other groups i have to go through alot to find a ugly pic but for mamamoo all i do is type in a members name and pictures of them looking homely show up
And that's why Nayeon will forever be a mystery. In other groups it's literally always maknae = popular, oldest = who?
Does anybody know why Ratmon was choosen to be the leader? Why him, when there are several members who are several years older? Makes no sense. Just how bad are Jin and the others that they weren't even allowed to play boss, despite that role usually being given to one of the oldest? lol
Are you new to kpop? Red velvet had alot of male fans, the reason why they left is due to irene's feminist book incident and because irene is nearing 30 and most male rv fans only liked irene and now that she is getting too old for them they left the fandom.
Twice are also very well known throughout all of east asia, and might be the most popular girl group in east asia. Twice are treated like celebrities in korea have a decent ammount of female fans not just uncle fans.
Nta but I personally find them cute, even in that pic.
It's really not that hard to understand why they have so many women and lgbt fans, especially compared to other ggs
everything here is 100% correct. as someone who 'stanned' bp in 2016-2017 and some of 2018, im embarrassed on how things have been going with both the group and the fandom.
Its open fact Jennie and Rose hate eachother, of all the content I've watched of theirs (they only have bp house and some vlives) Jennie and Rose do not interact at all. When they do in bp house, its sooooo so forced that the staff just ends up pairing Jennie+Jisoo and Rose+Lisa to keep things tame. Jisoo is soft and cant stand up for herself so she can take Jennie's bullying. The other two visibly clash with Jennie, like the Coachella stage that was mentioned.
Even on their instagrams, Jennie posted pics of other members but has never posted anything for Rose even on her birthday when the other members did. Its funny how open all of this is and the fans are still in denial. I dont even get how these girls who trained together for years dont have SOME kind of relationship with eachother. Its quite odd, but then again we don't know what goes down in YG.
In 2017 when they took a year long break, we thought they would be rehearsing, recording new music, etc. but nope, they were literally on netflix all day and didnt bother to even do vlives for the fans (how do they still have fans if they dont even bait them that way). When they came back with DDDD they had 0 stage presence and admitted the comeback was done a few weeks before, meaning the whole year they did nothing. After that comeback, they took another year hiatus again, doing nothing but Jennie filming CFs in Europe, while the other girls were who knows where, again no vlives or any socialization with fans. 2019 comeback with KTL, also confirmed to be done 2 weeks before the comeback, so no rehearsing or any practicing done for a whole other year.
Obvs they are spoiled beyond recognition at this point, everyone here may hate different groups but at least they're practicing dancing everyday and posting videos and vlives to prove it. Lisa has a youtube channel and cant help even post dance practices like other idol dancers do. Rose cant bother to post any covers when shes supposed to be the main vocalist of the group.
When they arent doing anything they dont even have to train or practice like normal idols, they get to release 4 songs a year and go on there way. Not to mention, the bsides for the last 2 'mini albums' were made predebut, these tracks were literally recorded in 2014/2015. They don't even have to write and lyrics or do any creative work with any of their 'music'.
All of these facts in the open and people still stan. Im sorry to everyone who wasted their time with a group who's members are there just for the money and will drop u all when their contracts expire in just 4 years. In all that time you'll probably get 3 comebacks + another Jennie solo.
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I dont mind that you find them cute since beauty is in the eye of the beholder, but the fact that you are the same type of people to shit on generally attractive groups but yet praise the fuglyness which is mamamoo is kinda BIASED.
Im guessing Solar is the visual of mamamoo right? Well if tzuyu was caught looking as ugly as Solar is in this pic i think we all know what you would do.
Yes, they lost a lot of fans due to her feminist scandal, but not tens of thousands like Farmers love to claim.>>49156
Maybe not always the most popular, but the younger members generally are on top:
Goo Hara (2nd youngest), Yoona (2nd youngest), Sohee, Taemin, Gain, Krystal and Sulli, Jiyeon, Hyeri, Hyuna (2nd youngest), Suzy, Seolhyun (2nd youngest), Jk, V and Jimin, Joy (2nd youngest), Tzuyu (at least at first), Lisa, in Exo Kai and Sehun are very popular, on Produce 101 Somi and now Wooyoung, in Itzy Yuna,…
And if you'd ask me who the oldest in those groups are I honestly couldn't even tell you because they're usually pretty much irrelevant.
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The fact that the other Winner members are so ugly that this weird chucky doll is the visual
Mmm don't have official assigned roles such as visual but yeah it's generally agreed that solar is the prettiest/fits the standards the most
For what it's worth I personally only shit on bg looks lol
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I agree. Some of the standards anons are projecting here are on the level of Korean netizens. Most idols are average-looking people but the strict standards for them have made it so that anyone who doesn't look like a manga character = automatically ugly.>>49172
K-pop stylists need to get rid of these ratty extensions and just stop frying idols' hair to death.
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Ah, the male Park Bom. His transformation is crazy.
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people thought her hair was real?
She didn't cut it, her hair's likely so weak that it breaks and doesn't grow porperly due to malnutrition.>>49178
I didn't know him ,but turns out he's the oldest? Don't chinese care about seniority shit like the koreans due?
Plus he looks like a twink.
If Lucas wasn't in a kpop group people would call him what he is, a nasty fratboy-type asshole.
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Now I want to see more videos of Rose and Jennie pretending not to hate each other. Even their Coachella gig dropped into their lap with zero effort. I'll bet other ggs resent the fuck out of them behind the scenes.>>49171
unfortunately coachella took down the official videos they had up for some reason but it was before the last song as if it's your last. Jennie was jumping around actually having fun and was clearly drunk and didn't get into formation fast enough. Rose was yelling at her and Jennie took her time getting to her spot and you could clearly see her giving attitude to Rose before she settled into her position. I was LOVE to see how these two get on when the cameras are off. I bet Rose is jealous asf at Jennie's favoritism despite her lack of talent and Jennie makes fun of Rose's huge head and lack of opportunities.>>49176>>49172
Their pictures with Ariana's producer kinda exposed this
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you can always tell who's favored in a group by the quality of their extensions lol
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Once upon a time SM would be debuting these kinds of girls but these trainees are going to smaller agencies like Starship instead. I saw a pann post basically saying that word has got around female idol hopefuls that SM is not the place you want to debut from anymore. It's crazy how much SM's star has fallen.
I'm using these girls from Izone because they're super young visuals from Starship but there are other examples, surely.
this bitch really out there feeling herself thinking shes some kind of ariana grande
i actually feel sorry for rosé being 4th best when the most favored is this spoiled untalented rat
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there are so many autists in here, wow
pls someone gif this
i can't stop cackling. this clip lit proves their whole group dynamic off-cameras Jennie and her backup dancers. She controls everything and doesn't give a shit about the other girl's inputs.
I seriously don't get how everyone heralds Jennie as some ultra beauty, when she looks hella basic. In fact, all of Blackpink does.
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I made a quick gif on my break.
Jisoo seems like she has zero backbone and wouldn't be able to resolve conflicts between the two of them. She, Jennie and Nayeon were apparently bffs back in the day and I can see Jennie and Nayeon bonding over being mean girls and Jisoo kind of being the toady.
But something happened along the way. I barely see Jennie and Nayeon interact anymore like they did back in 2016 etc. Now it's all about Jennie and Irene who seem to be strategically bonding over being the top 2 it girls of the 3rd gen. I wonder what happened between the original ratpack.
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it must take a liter of filler for lisa to be literally be skin and bones but still have full cheeks and a normal looking face
While watching her MC inkigayo I sometimes felt like sometimes she looks like an old man. Even in that debut showcase posted when she was introducing herself at the time stamp OP gave she had such an old man face. But Koreans like her visual the best. Still, if you compare her to visual-visual actresses like Song Hye Kyo, Kim tae hee etc. at their peak it's no contest. They're cute for being idols I guess.
Lisa looks like a Cabbage Patch kid most of the time but I think she was the one that got the most attention during Coachella for her visual. Her body proportions are probably the best in the group but her ana-chan skeletonia just makes her look weird.
Especially when you take out all the editing they're not all that. Those pics with Ariana's producer upthread are very telling. Rose especially looks the most different.
Mte anon. The pettiness was screaming out of os his post. However wonder if ratmon is actually the guilty party since no one but the other 2 rappers congratulated him! Wheeew>>49128
What incelly line of thought is that anon? Kek stop hanging out with your nerdy musty friends and get some girlfriends irl, your life will change for the better.
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Damn there was nothing wrong with his nose before
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since the recent topic seems to be on jennie and her highness, i was lurking her thread on pull and found this. blinks rlly know how to create an image for jennie despite her not being able to pull any of that shit off they drag other female idols who can.
First of all Kun is talentless and ugly so who cares and second of all the one who started making the fat jokes was Chenle, his favorite member. Begone Kunt (and yutachan >>49178
i wonder if it's the way sm manages their groups, didn't lay talk about that appearance ranking thing? if they have to compete with each other all the time, it's impossible for them to stay friends>>49264
nta but no way you're not an nctfag yourself, who do you consider talented and good looking in nct anon?
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his face is botched now
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Other anons might write something like "5+ years ago when I was a dumb teen I was a fan of exo/snsd/bigbang and I remember that…" but wayv debuted in 2018, if you know so much about them and say that you saw this and that about them you're quite literally admitting to being a stan. Try to be less obvious from now on, nctfags.
Irene herself said that Jennie approached her first to make friends, Jennie knew what she was doing. She saw Nayeon's stock fall and Irene's rise and jumped right onto her bandwagon. Jennie actually used to get along best with Yeri in RV, but I guess Yeri isn't popular enough for Jennie to publicly latch onto kek>>49222
I agree; I think she's pretty but not quite striking in the way Irene, Nana, Doyeon or Tzuyu are. She has a very forgettable face. >>49266>bullying
Lol found the friendless femcel
the more i learn about jennie, the more she seems like a psychopath
i honestly wouldn't mind blackpink music all that much if it wasn't for jennie's shouting. her throaty hollering is like a thousand donkey kicks to my eardrums.
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Did fans really believe they would like being in sperm? Of course they're being forced lol
Can I just mention how fucking funny it is that Jimin can't help but tag his own name on his happy birthday post, but won't use #RM or the actual trending hashtag when literally every other member does lol. https://twitter.com/BTS_twt/status/1172055241874821121
I wonder if there is some beef btw them. J-hope, Jungkook and V didn't post at all for Ratmon bday.
>>49283>J-hope, Jungkook and V didn't post at all for Ratmon bday.
Kek>"T-they talked in private instead!"
Jimin always does that. Korean fans called him out on it already, but i-ratmies shield everything. For V's birthday he also used something like #btstaehyung instead of just #taehyung. And of course his own name. I wonder why their management doesn't say anything, it's more than just obvious now.
Just saw this, on Jk's birthday Jimin also managed to steal the spotlighthttps://www.knetizen.com/pjms-have-no-shame-jimins-hashtag-trending-on-jungkooks-birthday/>due to Jimin’s club thing, Jimin’s fans cleaned the search and made #weloveyoujimin trending. Jungkook’s fandom were angry about this rudeness of PJMs who were happy that making Jimin’s hashtag trending. In fact, PJMs have been ruined other stan’s some events for several time.>[+125, -7] BTS fans look for Naver in real time and comment on articles, but it’s the real comedy “K-pop history’s most successful solo artist Park Jimin?” And they said the other members followed him to break the record? I think it’s accurate and sure. Jimin is not a member of BTS. He is a solo singer in the eyes of his fans.>[+95, -4] Why did Jimin fans make his hashtags trending on other members’ events? This is not the first time
I always thought that Jk is the most popular but in Korea it seems to be Jimin?
As revenge some want to get Jk trending on Jimin's birthday, "but that's so mean and unfair!“
The others should just lay low and not post anything at all, that would be the best thing to do to somebody who's obsessed with attention.
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His profile is tragic
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Who decided that making a whole group revolve around the ugliest member with a super grating voice was a good idea. At least Hyuna could pull off skanky this chick has the same desperate tryhard energy as all female rappers lately
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>>49290>that flash of park bom's reaction
Fucking kek that clapped bitch
Soyeon is the female version of Taeyong in my eyes. They both suck.
>>49149>Are you new to kpop? Red velvet had alot of male fans, the reason why they left is due to irene's feminist book incident and because irene is nearing 30 and most male rv fans only liked irene and now that she is getting too old for them they left the fandom.
Not necessarily. It just sounds like you're making up shit to harp on Irene’s age. I have no idea why men would like their group. TWICE? I can see because they are lame and non-threatening to the Korean male ego and masculinity but Red Velvet? Obviously, this has never been the case. I do agree that Irene was the draw for male fans, however. Out of the rest of the group, she was kind of given the more skimpy/womanly outfits. She was the WOMAN among a group of teenage GIRLS. SM tried to promote Irene as this wholesome woman that would be the perfect housewife, ironing and doing laundry. Very domestic ideal. She was the one that people could project their desires onto the most because she was so blank back then, as she was meant to be.
Did that stuff stick? Nope. I don't think Irene was ever that controllable in the first place. Behind the scenes, I doubt Irene complied well. And she's the leader.
That's why their group stage presence and performances were in such shambles.
Nitpick but something about her mouth bothers me a lot. I see people shilling her as the best gg rapper right now but honestly she's not that great. Kpoppies think that rapping fast = good
I can give her props for writing her own lyrics tho. Are there any other gg rappers that do the same? I only know that LE and moonbyul do
Of course not everyone, but enough, I would guess. Especially if you are young, naive and trained for years under much pressure. Not to mention the crazy agesystem in SK.
No news, tho. It was already discussed. But I feel like it won´t happen anything, same as alast time, until a big Idol comes up and shares this past. But I highly doubt anyone would ever do that.
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I didn't think I'd find an idol more hideous than rat monster until I saw this guy. To make it even worse his fans are straight up delusional about him. I even saw him as the phone wallpaper of a 25 year old woman I know. Barf
even the most hardcore stan would have to look at him and call it as fucked-up lmao
poor guy's gotta live looking like that now
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I'm dying to see how this dude from ateez looked before ps but they're too nugu for me to find good predebut pics
He can look ok-ish with proper styling and when his chin fillers (?) dissolve, but sometimes he looks downright horrifying
And don't get me started on the fucking mullet
i honestly wouldnt be able to pick the girl out from a crowd. she isnt special and if she weren't east asian/not "ulzzang baddie" (i think idk) the western fans would bust her shit too. amazing how these fans conveniently overlook what their idols do
so so sorry for the rant but at least when shindong was fat-shaming back in the day he got called out by the fans iirc but jennie throws slurs and acts like a mega-bitch and people still actively defend her? when she CLEARLY knows english and how people should behave in a team?
there are a lot of claims about idols writing/composing stuff that I just straight up don't believe. At first only Soyeon in gidle wrote stuff, then suddenly Minnie pops up with credits and then Yuqi announces she's learning music composition? Sounds fake to me
But even if it is true, having one person writing almost everything for the group/getting a hugely disproportionate amount of attention makes the rest of the group seem pointless when you could just be a soloist.
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lmao the shoop + padding
why do they think drag queen proportions are going to be believable>>49343
I wonder if gidle being half foreigners was intentional so that they had less of a chance of being more popular than soyeon. Also cube is just endlessly copy/pasting 4minute onto different girl groups waiting for another hyuna to happen and it's pathetic.
She looks like the plain girl next door without her intense eye makeup and everything. never found her face attractive or modelesque without it.
To me she clearly a snob and ruins any chance of having a proper dynamic in the group. Im sure she hates Lisa for being so hyped and treats her accordingly (not really relevant to this but I remember someone posting a video in which bp went to some place, and Jennie said how it's better than Thailand in front of Lisa lol. I'm sure that wasn't intentional but it just says a lot about her.) No wonder she's always so fake and careful whenever they're in front of a camera.
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no way shes actually in charge of that tryhard over-produced perfectly edited vlog channel lol she doesnt even film most of the footage, let alone edit and post it.
didnt yg start that channel just to rip off that one bts member that does vlogs anyway? probably added dance covers to make it a little less obvious.
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Never forget when Netizens clocked her after seeing her on American televisionhttp://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2019/02/black-pink-guests-on-strahan-and-sara.html
"2. [+217, -27] Look at Jennie's proportions… how realistic."
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rose looks like a rob liefeld drawing
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johnny was a trainee for almost ten years before his debut. imagine training for that long and ending up in a group like nct lol. he’s talentless and fugly (most of flopct is tbh). sm really couldn’t get anyone better?
[+316, -37] Did you guys watch their stage on 'Good Morning America', though? They're so bad at dancing and their stage was just all lip syncing. I was honestly embarrassed. So bad at performing.
[+217, -27] Look at Jennie's proportions… how realistic.
[+38, -4] Their stage did seem like a child's talent show.. They have a lot of dance moves where they need to be in a row like dominos but they have no power in their movies, they're mostly just flailing around so their angles don't match up. It looked really messy..
[+38, -5] They were holding mics but still lip syncing the whole thing. Jennie's rap part… she was overshadowed by her own lip sync and basically stumbled through her own rap. Makes me realize how amazing that boy group is in comparison ㅋㅋ
[+34, -5] Black Pink may be a cute and lovely girl group to us but America's more cutthroat than that and it's hard for a group to make it without talent.
[+31, -4] I watched their stage and their lip syncing was so obvious. Their dancing also lacked any force… Such an embarrassment to Korea. They basically played into the stereotype that K-Pop idols have.
[+28, -3] Their stage totally exposed their lack of dance skills..
[+25, -5] They're all stumpy looking without their heels
[+23, -6] Please don't go on these shows if you don't have the talent to back it up.. embarrassing..
[+17, -2] They look like chodings. Their looks, their bodies… they just look like children. It looked like a child's talent show.
[+12, -5] Embarrassing
[+9, -1] Their dancing was pretty bad… like a kid's talent show…
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Is the other guy Kai or Taemin? Looks so normal and human next to Johnny lol
And what kind of american parents let their kid waste a decade trying to get into a foreign boy group?>>49269>didn't lay talk about that appearance ranking thing?
Yes, but I don't really believe this. He said he placed 3rd last, like come on, he knows exactly he's not that ugly, if SM were really that strict, how come Super Junior were allowed to debut? He only tried to get fans to pity him.
Their performances are like watching four dua lipas on stage together>>49376
Doyoung is absolute shit at dancing and jaehyun is extremely mediocre. Imo you should be decent at both not just one thing. Idols are supposed to sing AND dance
"[+34, -5] Black Pink may be a cute and lovely girl group to us but America's more cutthroat than that and it's hard for a group to make it without talent."
Basically admitting they have shit standards in Korea and are fine with it
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Lmao they ps-ed his thighs and fans are madhttps://www.kpopmap.com/x1-fans-in-anger-and-accusing-agency-of-photoshopping-wooseok-thighs/
.The obsession to looking feminine is getting out of hand.
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This made me laugh. Next nomination for op pic.
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seconding this. johnny unspeakably ugly but no thanks desu.
Looks like it>>49401
What the fuck is that hairstyle?>>49404
Yeah I'm with you on this one
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how does anyone believe her shoops are real i will never understand
The “hey” parts killed me lmao.
I like the supernatural concept but of course they ruined it by going the cutesy uwu loli voice route
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Tbh the people in the comments that are going "it's a jpop song, that's why its so bad", and "please have a korean producer make their jp songs" or "don't make jp songs anymore", are kind of annoying. It's like they think only koreans can make good music and japanese people can only make trash music? Koreaboo logic 101. It's just akb garbage, that's all there is to it. >>49424
Most of their (iz*one) j-fans fans are female though, so the crappy akb quality confuses me
I've never watched a kdrama but I get the impression they're all cringey and people just watch them to see attractive people make out.
Also Suzy is one of the few idols of her generation who didn't do a complete facial overhaul so I'm happy for her I guess
I meant that their fans are mostly Japanese female kpop fans, so why don't they make their jp releases sound more like their korean releases but in japanese?
Also there was nothing really "kboo" about what you said, j-idol music in general is pretty bad because nobody but weirdos give a fuck about idols there. Unlike in korea where they're actually quite a big deal
idol groups with good singers have shit songs
pop music shouldn't be about vocal runs
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I also noticed that Twice are a lot "bigger" than other girl groups, but even they confessed to doing water fasts. If that's what it takes to look like them, just how far do other, really skinny idols have to go?
Fans who buy into and promote the "naturally skinny"-lie are so toxic
. Hyuna spoke about losing 20kg predebut and now that she weighs probably less than 40kg you have idiots claiming that she eats a ton and was always like that.https://www.koreaboo.com/lists/10-unedited-photos-truly-show-thin-female-idols-legs/
Pic is from here, they look scary irl
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Park bom was shocked because she ranked the last in queendom kek. I really don't get why they had to add her into the show, like she's the only soloist competing with ggs. Like it's not fair? But whatever. She should also consider decreasing her screentime since her face has become so unbearable now.https://www.allkpop.com/article/2019/09/park-bom-expresses-her-shock-at-her-low-ranking-on-queendom-says-her-pride-was-hurt
He looks fine and it's good that his face isn't stiff plastic. Just needs some braces
I swear the anons itt have stricter standards than knetz
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That's obviously a lie, anon.
Kpop logic:>only hobby is working out, shows abs at every given opportunity
but also>"uwu i'm such a sm0l soft boy, i don't eat and only weigh as much as most girls!"
I don't get it, admitting that he weighs 70 or 80kg won't make him look any differently.
>shh dont rile up the weebs, theyll derail the thread with jpop defending
This anon's prediction >>49446
came true >>49477
Kek I'm >>49477
and I posted that video as a joke because of what >>49446
said. I don't actually know much about jpop
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Pdjp is cursed. [sniffling] you are all so ugly.
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Pledis sucks at hiring makeup artists.
You do realize that most people workout to lose weight right?
Having muscles also has nothing to do with being a normal weight.
Also I don't really see why he would lie when no one cares how much kpop boys weigh, is not like he is a girl idol where he is considered fat if he is over 40kg.
Ew what the fuck. He looks like a loser.
Where can you find more of these? I just want to have a good laugh.
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you can spot a cringy "ending fairy" at the end of each pdjp performance.look forward to seeing more of them as the series goes on.
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bonus: this iconic pd48 ending fairy kek
I'm annoyed cause aoa lipsyncs and straight up copied mamamoos stage from like 2016, with the drag queen performers and such. Nothing new, nothing creative
I don't understand why mmm agreed to do the show, they're the only ones that have nothing to gain from it
Anyway apparently lovelyz won this round
i thought it was rigged because of g-idle's support of traniees voting for them, but aoa killed it and mamamoo keeps actig smug and they mock people's singing.
also Hwasa again was trying to push an African (wtf?) concept with Good Luck by wearing a du-rag. You would think they would learn from last time.
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And here I thought none of his fans would be dumb enough to actually believe him… Kaifag, this is not what a semi-tall young guy weighing only 60kg looks like. If he really weighed this little, he would be skeleton-tier.
Many people work out to lose weight yes, but many men also just want to get more ripped. Most muscular people aren't underweight, at least he definitely isn't. And kpop fans very well care about guys weights, or at least idols believe so, otherwise we wouldn't see fake bragging articles like the one posted about him.>>49498
Here you go lolhttps://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2019/09/enter-talk-ending-fairy-of-japanese.html?m=1
Everybody claiming they aren't fugly are delusional. There's nothing cute or charming about this. >>49504
Koreans absolutely hated aoa since their scandal but seemed to like this performance a lot…? http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2019/09/aoa-and-mamamoo-cover-each-others-songs.html?m=1>[+525, -321] I think Mamamoo gets perceived as more talented than they actually are because they're ugly. Solar needs to stop terrorizing my eyes with her outfits. She has no talent and thinks screaming out her high notes is good singing. No charm at all, and her face looks like Jo Hye Ryun.
I kind of agree with the first sentence, not just in mamamoo's case but in general. Not that they're really ugly.
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mamamoo sucked imo their attempts to be sexy are really embarrassing
I'm gonna sound like a stan but so far i didn't see them acting smug at all? In fact they were way too modest, imo.
You can't trust mnet's editing either, for example they keep pushing for aoa to seem like the bad guys cause they're showing jimin's stank face every single chance they get.
They wanna create fanwars but they have like 0,5 ratings. Nobody cares about this show
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Excuse my upcoming spergy blogpost but I gotta get it off my chest…
X1 is the group that made me realize how ugly male idols are. I've never liked boy groups, but I also never found them disturbingly ugly until I watched the Flash MV. It was that one moment where finally all the farmer talk of 'uncanny valley flower boy manlets' resonated and I became legit creeped out that there are 18+ people attracted to this
This cursed shoop is both hilarious and frightening, to get back on topic.>>49190
Wow, that's crazy to think about. It's true that even though idols in the big 3 companies debut with a lot of privileges, all the trainees with star quality (like your example of Wonyoung) seem to be flocking to smaller agencies. Look at Itzy, a JYP group, who debuted fucking Chaeryoung. They couldn't find a decent looking dancer?
It still has very low ratings. Apparently it went up with the last episode but overall not many people care. I'm agreeing with >>49527
, this show was designed to create fanwars and that's it.
At least her face isn't full of plastic? She looks like a normal person in that gif. Istg farmers complain about botched faces and then complain when someone has a normal face. >>49535
parents will invest in the company to see their child succeed, kind of like how some parents donate to colleges so their kids can attend their dream college
I wanna say I love you anons for the ending fairy gifs>>49509
this one is the best
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This popped up on my iG feed even though I never searched bts
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hapa idols are notoriously sexualized
the way they had tia from chocolat dressing, dancing and acting was the exact same shit
pretty sure there are still videos on youtube of her doing those chair lap dance/strip performances and Im sure she was still underaged at the time
wouldnt surprise me at all if her dad encouraged it too as most white hapa dads are incel creeps
I used to watch that show and never had an issue with them.
Already years ago you had fans being ultra sensitive, acting as if every single word would hurt their oppars and unnies and also complaining about those two. But fans always complain about every host or interviewer, so that's nothing new.
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Monsta X are going on Ellen and I can already picture Armys getting salty over it. Why is it that no one in Kpop is allowed to succeed in America besides BTS? Who made that rule?
her and hwasa were a mess, trying so hard to look sexy when it should come naturally
and why did hwasa tie a durag on her head? especially in the front, she looked so retarded.
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Speculation is that it could be a visa issue? Also the person who made this used a pic of mirae instead of linlin lol. If I had to guess maybe nosejobs?
She tried so hard but ended up looking like a pirate>>49573
I already saw some ratmy getting jealous and trying to trash them. BTS' downfall is going to be sweet.
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army were a mistake
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His face is different in every picture
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That Kokoro girl is one of the few female idols I'd genuinely call ugly, I wouldn't be surprised at all if she was getting her fucked up leprechaun looking face fixed
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She still looks so much better than her sister though, the sis is beyond saving
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imagine thinking anyone in this group is gay
Nta, but I think anon meant that people in general wouldn't say something like that in the presence of a gay friend, so assuming he knows basic decency he also wouldn't do that. >>49636
He's a farmer's boy and said that his ideal wife would be a girl who spends his money wisely. He also told a girl to cover up as fanservice. He got mildly angry because a younger fan didn't address him appropriately (he then backpedalled and said the fan could be a foreigner) and when a female fan complained to him that her older brother bullies her, he said she has to respect him or some shit like that. So of course we don't know for sure, but he sounds very oldfashioned and therefore also sexist.
>>49641>he probably became less traditional as he's been to countries with different cultures and seen how being ~~woke~~ is beneficial for musicians
That and realizing that not leading a frugal and simple life can be quite fun. Hence his addiction to ugly Gucci pieces.
>i thought he was a devoted christian or something
I thought so too…?
Many less weird idols than him are also super religious and e.g. brag about going to mass before their regular schedules.
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seems like jimin’s getting stalked by sasaengs again kek he probably secretly enjoys the attention
Low key kinda off topic but those long bowl cut idols have look really annoying
Hair constantly covering your eyes and shit, always having to fix it lol
Honestly the whole 'naturally skinny' argument doesn't work in kpop when you can see idols at their natural weights during the down times.
At one point with Blackpink you could literally see they had gained weight (just due to the size of their tights) and then when they had a comeback less than a month later (may have even been a week or two) they were sticks. That's not being naturally skinny at all.
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He looks like a fucking demon
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her eyes are so fucking creepy
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I think they cut way too much skin from her eyelids because she has trouble blinking in their performances. It's a shame, she wasn't even ugly.
he got a new nosejob? no wonder why he looks so different and not as goodlooking
in 2015 and when he still had the long hair i must admit he looked nice
another example of kpops toxic
standards. she was perfect the way she was before. too bad she has no talent to back it up
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What the actual fuck. There's really an account out here that rates kpop idol's feet and toes… this person can't be mentally stable https://twitter.com/kpopfoot
she looks freaky when you watch her in motion
she can't close her eyes properly nor move her face bc its so stiff
a shame really. she was cute
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This is so fucking sad she looks like a monster now. If she kept her original looks she'd definitely be a top visual because she isn't short either and appears to have long limbs.
She never posted her face. She was probably aware that it's not a good idea.
There was one picture one her Instagram where we could somehow see a bit of her face (no screenshots unfortunately).
Imo she looked like those Korean models on Instagram (yekooooong and the likes).
We can see part of Jin and JH's reaction in this vid starting at 0:18.
It cuts… but basically they looked at each other like "Damn…".
When she was in front of Jin, JH was mad staring; people were speculating that he did a "shush" because he wrote down his number and that Jin was looking at him like "dude, don't" but idk.
JK's reaction at 7:49 here.https://youtu.be/Zpv2d1-h-9Q?t=469
He seemed like he didn't wanna let go of her hands, also kept commenting about how her hands were cold and her hair was long and that he would let his hair grow like hers.
>>49733>Also I saw a post in one of the unpopular kpop opinion subreddits where a teenager was saying that BP is actually more popular among normie teens than BTS.
That's true. Most of my 14yo sister's female classmates love bp, they obviously also know bts but aren't really fans. And I would consider her a young version of a "stacy".
Meanwhile the only ratmies I ever met irl were one girl who acts like a total recluse (think femcel walk) and one who tries her best to look like Jimin lol
And I also know one normie guy who finds Jennie sooo hot…
>>49727>choosing ikon as ugliest bg when bts exists
tho tbh bgs as a whole are much uglier than ggs. not to mention they get away with more shit and get to be more openly problematic
with far less repercussions.
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YG found a new Thai trainee. A 03 liner this time. I guess after Lisa he realized how lucrative SEA trainees were for fans who want to self-insert. I'm still shocked there are trainees that want to debut under YG though.
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Just how ugly is the average ratmy that these incels throw their pr training out of the window as soon as they see a decent looking girl? lol>I believe she got death threats which isn't surprising.
I always wondered how they can stand these fanmeetings without constantly getting jealous of each other.>reee jiminnie looked at her 1 second longer than at me!
I kind of think that a "sexy yet badass" girl group like blackpink can appeal more to the western mainstream and gain casual listeners, while bts has their diehard fanbase.https://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2019/09/enter-talk-2019s-male-and-female.html
And appearantly blackpink sold even less than nct and other groups I've never heard of lol
>>49747>And appearantly blackpink sold even less than nct
I thought that it was all nct units and was gonna comment how sad that is, but it's only nct dream which seems to be the one that is sort of making money?
Still pretty sad though since they get so much "hype". I am shocked their parents don't buy their cds to make them look better even thought they bothered to buy them their careers.
People grill her for being ugly but I think she's legitimately good at singing/dancing. Without her or Eunbi the group would be fucked.>>49645
I didn't watch PD48 but from clips I think Lee Sian would have been a better addition to the group. Or atleast someone with some semblance of stage presence. I have to ask why Hyewon even pursued being an idol when she looks so miserable all the time.>>49696
Dude if you think that's bad, you should've seen OneHallyu's 18+ section. There were people on OH that had accounts SOLELY to post there. They'd fawn over Irene's ass or tits, which imo there's nothing to even fawn over. I don't even understand how people can get horny over idols when they're wearing clothes and doing rehearsed dances all the time. >>49702
I can't help but feel triggered
/kinda sad for idols who had their faces fucked up by PS. Especially if they took too much away from your nose or eyes, since both seem unfixable imo.
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I actually did find a pic where she looks cute, I still think she looks a lot worse in motion/smiling since her mouth is so horrifying but I guess she's actually not that bad. I can't stand people with gummy smiles either, like Mina who looks pretty good with her mouth closed but the second she smiles I want to throw up.
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Samefag but just compare the two. Didn't Mamamoo's company tell Moonbyul not to laugh because she looks ugly when she does? This girl's company should do the same
I think YG is going to have a lot of trouble recruiting new Korean trainees. Foreign prospective trainees either don't really get how fucked their reputation is or
are just desperate to debut.
There's also probably allure to being guaranteed a badass/girl crush concept… I can't imagine anyone dreams of being in a cute concept pedobait group
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delusional insane blackpinkMUSTYballs fans
BP are the most toxic
gg fandom by far. I see them especially come from Gfriend fans for some reason even though Gfriend are mostly just minding their own business somewhere out of the spotlight. But most of it is out of insecurity because they know BP can implode at any second. Blinks are the Napolean of girl group fandom
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Ive scrolled through the comments of hyewon's fancam and most of them said "uwu she's improving and getting more confident1!1!! Proud of my bby ^_^" what? I thought you were suppose to do that during training, not when you actually debuted and while performing.
Another reason i saw her fans made as to why she was added in the group is because she's has a pure heart (??? Tf does that even mean) and a ~*great personality*~. Ive never watched pd101 except some clips and knew she was f class from watching a few, so i actually have noidea what's the soul purpose of adding her to the group.
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I don't know why it's hard to believe that male idols would be sexually interested in their more beautiful fans. One or two male idols have already been caught in recent years fucking/dating their fans (the Day6 guy for example) and boy bands have been doing it since boy bands have existed.>>49413
Speaking of Jennie being a fraud I actually think her bubble will burst and she'll disappear from the idol scene. I don't see her being popular in the long run. I think eventually Jisoo will end up being the most successful at least in the Korean market as long as she can land acting roles. Her not being able to act won't affect her as it never affects other Korean actors' ability to find work as long as they're considered beautiful by their beauty standards.
Featured on AsianJunkie: http://www.asianjunkie.com/2016/01/31/day6s-junhyeok-accused-of-dating-a-fan-people-enraged-for-reasons/
Summary basically a very pretty Day6 fan went to a fansign which is where the boys all met her originally. She was a fan of another member, but then after a while mysteriously began posting inside information as to where the boys were, what their schedules would be, then started making it obvious on instagram that she was dating someone and other fans found out she was dating another member (not the member she was originally a fan of). That guy got kicked out of the group.
Fangirls really want to believe that these dudes wouldn't notice or want to bang the pretty girls that show up at their gigs. A few female idols were originally scouted at fansigns like Itzy's Ryujin (Got7 fanmeet). I guess it's either you get scouted to become a trainee or scouted to become a f-buddy or both.
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They’re all in surgery rn to look like the ultimate gangnam unknees
next thread pic nomination
or however the fuck you say it
bulk up or die.
Realistically though, being too skinny upon joining the military is only a problem if they're also inactive (higher risk of bone stress injuries), which idols are not. They'll just gain weight, possibly after being put on double rations.
Not to mention celebrities are always given the easiest posts in the military and given extra vacation time and other special privileges>>49776
Loona is managed by people with too much money and not enough common sense. They wasted their budget on making a ton of MVs without caring about the quality of the songs themselves and probably just decided to give each girl 10 surgical procedures without making sure they actually turned out pretty. Also it's crazy that Loona is literally funded from money from arms dealing. I thought that was fake at first but apparently not.
lol. That’s a personal opinion though. I personally find their voices really ruin their already bland songs.
I think they were so hyped up as a group that when they did release it was a bit underwhelming
yeah his nose looks different. before it wasnt that noticeable but he must went to fix it again now you can definitely tell >>49672
lmao their company-branded him with the title "angel" all the time. u dont need to be a svtfag to know
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Edward Avila looks better than most idols tbh lol
Apparently they had a ton of distributing issues and now are switching distributors. Their creative director also left, he was the one who made their "lore" (lol)>>49819
Is this a joke?
I know he white washed this pic but imagine leaving the house looking like this lol
Everyone must be laughing his busted face lol
something about him reminds me of ravi from vixx. but this is just pitiful. >>49815
imo they flopped because even with the music and videos nobody is gonna listen to a group they don't know exists. they basically came from a noname company and the closest group they could leech off of for notoriety is ladies code so they were basically starting from nothing. their company should've tried to push for more predebut gigs.
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That and the braindead fandom
I rlly like loona their music and the girls personalities but I don’t rlly think they'll get anywhere bc of their company’s lack of good promotion and bc of orbits being fucking stupid.
If everything had been done properly with less girls say a 5-7 member girl groups for fans to focus on each individual member easily, and if their company wasn’t incompetent and budgeted everything evenly to be able to afford promoting like crazy. Then yeah if that were the case I could see them being successful.
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No and he looked like this before ew
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Found this on pull lmao
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I think a lot of it is angles and they aren't even that skinny irl. Most idols suddenly look short and stocky as soon as they enlist and are no longer able to wear their carefully picked brand clothes.
Speaking of military, what a fraud lol
I bet the other guys are wondering how the hell he managed to make money with that face.
at least he looks like an actual human something you can't Say about 99% of current male idols lmao
dude sure is ugly though
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As if exo aren't plastic…
Dude is 30 and has the face of a little girl, of course he's gotten something done, definitely a jaw shave
It's because YG is too greedy. Even though he had a successful girl group that was niche but still enough to get positive attention from the general public he's always looking at JYP and SM and their girl groups. He really shouldn't have because the most popular girl group after SNSD was 2ne1 (I'm assuming Miss A comes after) and I remember the fanwars about it. They where both girl groups that had a unique dichotomy and many that stanned SNSD also stanned 2ne1.
Now his misogynistic hate boner makes him angry blackpink isn't as popular in Korea as Twice and Red Velvet for whatever reason. He can't call them visually ugly, so he probably shits on their body.
>>49887>Also their concept is something that only people with "unique" looks and feels can pull off
Never thought about it that way, totally agree. But I actually am a blackjack so consider me biased.
You could put anyone in a school uniform and make a cute concept, but how many idols can actually be fierce and create a badass presence? Talent and 'fit' was more crucial for them than visuals.
Alas this is the critical thread so I'll stop wking. Fuck YG
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How come no one ever mentions Stray Kids while talking about ugliest idols? Those dudes look like circus freaks
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true and the felix guy looks like a ps freak now and is only like 18
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Their main rapper is one of the ugliest idols out there
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Also this one
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its already been discussed but anyway heres a pic of him predebut
Not a blackjack but I always felt their success as a group was because they never once tried to be "pretty" or act coy. Their lack of conventional visuals made their not-like-other-girls image more believable; for instance I doubt Jennie, who has been praised for her looks all her life, could sing a song like "Ugly" and make it sound believable the way 2ne1 could.>>49803
She was much more popular than Jeon Soyeon during Produce yet today G-idle has already overtaken CLC, who needed a song written by Soyeon to get a pity first win after 4 years of being active.
I'm sure she regrets not asking Cube to add her in Soyeon's group everyday
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Hi guys. Turns out my oppar was a predebut bully. So that one time I got defensive about him here? I take it back. Nitpick his side-profile all you want. He deserves it.https://kpopalypse.com/2019/09/11/kpopalypse-interview-tvixxbar-eric-from-the-boyz-alleged-bully-victim
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Only Yeri looks bad imo. I think back when SNSD was being formed SM had a lot more female trainees around so they could probably be pickier about body type.
lol that's spot on
I've noticed that most english-speaking kpop rappers sound way way worse when they try rap in english. You'd think they wouldn't be as bad since they're fluent but nope
Took me a few seconds to realize he was rapping in English. The song sounds absolutely terrible too, typical pots-and-pans garbage that 99% of boygroups are releasing these days. Sperm is going to be SM's worst mistake >>49907>>49912
Let's not revise history too much; Sunny and Tiffany had pretty bad proportions as well. I'd say that Tiff's body is even worse than Yeri's here. It just wasn't that noticeable in SNSD because there were 9 of them so they all sort of blended into each other.
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I sort of agree, it definitely has to do with the quality of the styling. With SNSD they were always strategic about making the waist look smaller and legs looks longer. Red Velvet is given some of the worst outfits I've seen from girl groups.