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RIP Rachael Lilis edition
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>>>/m/186496>>>/m/320917>>>/m/377133>>>/m/403600 No. 433511
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>>433494nonner you misspelled her name
>>433245I don't know what Pokemon could represent my country other than Arboliva because it's Mediterranean.
No. 433515
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>>433245Cute! Toxtricity can represent my Britbong city, we're associated with punk music and shit like that
No. 433569
>>433494Beautiful cover photo, it's still hard to believe that Rachel Lillis passed away this year… She really is a Pokemon treasure and Misty & Jessie were just not as fun (imo) when Rachel got let go from voicing them.
RIP Rachel Lillis, you will be sorely missed.
No. 433580
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>>433477Archaeopteryx was kind of a weird choice for Gamefreak to base the Unova (New York) fossil-species on. North America is much more known for stegosaurus and tyrannosaurs. Iirc the best T Rex specimens have mostly been found in the United States. Archeops and Tyrunt should have swapped places, with Archeops being found in Kalos (France) and Tyrunt being found in Unova (U.S.). I think Trubbish is cuter than Muk or Grimer, and I'm okay with it being a Murrica Pokémon lmao. The Samurai-inspired-Oshawott line is a bizarre choice for a region based on America. I feel like the water starter should have been a surfer or something instead. Damask and Kofagrigus were weird, too, like why is there Egypt-inspired stuff in the America region? I feel like there are way better American cultural concepts they could have based a ghost Pokémon off of. Honestly? Pumpkaboo and Gorgeist shouldn't have been in Kalos, either. Pumpkins originate from North America and are heavily associated with American Thanksgiving.
No. 433587
>>433580Not all pokemon fit into the region they originate it, like what do pandas have to do with France? Overall they do make maybe 30% that seem to reference the real life country/region, but most are just normal pokemon.
Though I do think it's fun to TRY to see if it was intentional so here's my attempt:
>Archaeopteryx was kind of a weird choice for Gamefreak to base the Unova >Damask and Kofagrigus were weird, too, like why is there Egypt-inspired stuff in the America region?I think this may not be intended to tie into American history, but to the fact that the Nacrene city gym is also a museum. So it's more that they thought "what kind of cool stuff can you find in a western museum" and went from there. Also kofagrigus could be a reference to movies, since Hollywood is also heavily referenced in BW.
>The Samurai-inspired-Oshawott line is a bizarre choice for a region based on AmericaPossibly because they see America as a melting pot of cultures, so every starter is from a different culture. Especially because to them as Japanese people the US isn't "home" so they didn't care to make the starters feel native to the region. They don't care that there isn't a "true American" starter, they just want to have a Japanese samurai starter they can play with there as Japanese people visiting. I think that's a shame, I'd love a gimmicky cowboy starter kek
>Pumpkaboo and Gorgeist shouldn't have been in Kalos, either.Perhaps they were partly thinking of it in terms of fairy tales, like how it transforms in Cinderella into a carriage. Fairy type had it's debut in Kalos so it wouldn't surprise me. Sometimes it may also just be their personal experience. We know they sometimes go to a country to do research on it, so if they happened to go to modern France around halloween and saw pumpkins they may very well use that as if it was a French thing because to them it is. I have to say it's very funny that they gave the French region a frog starter, that is a bold move kek
No. 433602
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>>433587>it's very funny that they gave the French region a frog starter, that is a bold move kekAgree, that's hilarious. Something also appropriately French that I remember about XY is how Route 7 is full of landscape painters and Smeargles. I feel like Smeargle is a very French-seeming Pokémon, what with its little barret and striped arms.
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Having a dedication thread where you misspell her name seems disrespectful, if I'm being honest.
No. 433627
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>>433613Sorry about that, by the time i noticed it was too late to delete
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>>433627don't worry nona, half of the anons on this site can't even read anyway kek
we all know it was well-intended so let's not fight over it
No. 433758
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New thread, new hate! Tell me a pokemon you hate (or just dislike) for a reason you know is stupid and undeserved!
I'll go first, I can't stand cherrim anymore because the overcast form's face is by the legs like this and I found it so ugly I felt betrayed when I first found out about it
No. 433813
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>>433758Castform because its default form looks like it has a scrotum. It's such a cute concept for a Pokémon ruined by retarded design choices. How hard would it have been to just make the body more cloud-like?
No. 433891
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>>433758i never much liked pikachu (raichu superemacy) but i hate him since i started playing UNITE. he's extremely annoying in game with the constant loud pikapika cries (no other poke cries out constantly) and he's totally broken.
the tourist skin makes it worse, he looks like every other american or japanese retard in paris who feels the need to wear striped shirts and berets from a souvenir store
No. 433892
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>>433758Delphox because I was delusionally hopeful that we wouldn't get yet another bipedal fire starter, and I was let down. I have an inordinate amount of bitterness toward this Pokemon because the fan evolutions looked so good, and Delphox is so ugly by comparison. Maybe I wouldn't hate it so bad if I hadn't gotten my hopes up.
No. 433898
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>>433813Castform is indeed ugly wasted potential.
>>433758My petty Pokémon grudge is Chien-Pao. Its sword fangs are a legitimately cool concept, but for some reason the designer made them
clip through its face and give it hideous black spots. I can't get over such a noticeable and retarded design choice kek
No. 433920
>>433898God same, when all the pokemon leaked I thought that one was so nice but then I noticed the stabbed swords on its face.
Also I don't get why we got chinese legendaries on a spanish region. Not that all pokemon should follow a region's inspiration, but Spain has some cool legends and history to use and reading those names caught me off-guard.
No. 433994
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>>433892I don't know how else would they design a witch Pokemon while having it remain bipedal. And Delphox being a witch is central to its design.
No. 433997
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>>433758Palafin's hero form. It's ugly, gross, stupid looking and it ruins Finizen which is a very cute pokémon.
No. 433998
>>433920>Also I don't get why we got chinese legendaries on a spanish region. It's basically tradition at this point, gen one had a native american thunderbird and western phoenix, gen 3 had hebrew golems, gen 6 had nordic mythos etc I think they more often than not use another country's legends. I don't mind it too much, I don't think a region should be too tied to the real life country.
>reading those names caught me off-guard.This I will agree with though, using fully chinese names in a non-chinese region is a bit too far. I can accept the tapus having hawaiian names in the hawaii region, especially when the dex establishes that there are basically "hawaiian" names for pokemon like vulpix. But to randomly throw in chinese out of nowhere seems weird. I'd rather they call them frostcat or whatever so we can have a relationship to the names that isn't just "oh they're from real world china, which doesn't even exist in the games at this point in time"
No. 434027
>>433758Pokémon that have weird colour changes after evolution. Probably the most famous one is Dratini/Dragonair going from a blue snake to some Deviant ripoff with a derpy face. But I also don't get Pokémon like Krookodile, nothing much is wrong with it's design change from Krokorok aside from the fact that it goes from brown and black to red and black.
Also I hate Pokémon that look like homosexuals, mostly because Roselia went from cutie to washed up twink. At least if they originally looked gay I wouldn't care but imagine becoming attached to your water starter and it evolves into Primarina. Bipedal Pokémon are the worst for this
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Happy ORAS 10th anniversary!!!
No. 434048
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>>434001You could just make it basically the same as before, just quadropedal. Or you could make the fur on the head + ears resemble a witches hat, maybe some floating magic fireballs around it. Make the fur pattern colors resemble witch attire and make the attacks obviously magic/spell casting inspired
No. 434049
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>>434018I'm sorry anon but nothing could ever make me hate the Draco Malfoy snake
No. 434056
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>>434049same, he's one of my fave starters. i love how smug and superior the whole line looks. then again i love all the snek 'mons
No. 434167
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>>433994AYRT and I personally wouldn't have gone the witch direction at all for the evolutions. I don't really like it when Pokemon are trying to be something other than cool animals/objects. Like, I also hate Cinderace, Incineroar, and Emboar because it feels like the focus is on the career/pop culture figure they represent as opposed to just being a creature? This is obviously just personal preference, but I don't think a Pokemon has to be anything but a cool creature, y'know?
>>434001NTA but for me personally, I would've maybe leaned more into the mystical side of things- maybe modeled it more after the Oracle of Delphi and played into the eternal flame within that mythos. I' probably lean into a design more akin to Suicune-type design. If it needs to be strictly a Halloween-type witch, I think having a quadrupedal spellcaster who carries its wand in its mouth would be cute! They could even make the ears look more like a witch's hat. Either way, I think a more mystical/ethereal look could've done wonders. I'm not a very creative person, so I'm sure these ideas aren't the best lol. I also have seen some cool fan designs, and I think something like picrel with a magic wand could be good; the flame vaguely looks like a hat already. Regardless, the people designing these monsters ARE creative, and they should be able to find a way to incorporate some witchy elements into a quadrupedal creature. I still think the right move would be to have not gone the witch direction with Braixen and Delphox in the first place, but that boils down to personal preference. I think Pokemon designs are at their best when they're more like cool monsters/creatures.
No. 434170
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>>434027roserade is one of the only "humanoid plant" pokemon that look good. it's not coom, and it's clever for pretty much making it a whole flower with some human features, the petals being hair is a great idea.
No. 434181
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>>434048That's a nice design, but it does not fit the whole RPG character archetype theme they were going for with the Kalos starters. It would feel out of place next to Chesnaught and Greninja.
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>>434167>Like, I also hate Cinderace, Incineroar, and Emboar because it feels like the focus is on the career/pop culture figure they represent as opposed to just being a creature?That's a very common opinion that people have. But one Pokemon that a lot of people love is Ludicolo despite being blatantly being just that.
No. 434244
>>434184I actually don't think Ludicolo is the best example of this; Machoke and Machamp are much better examples of what I'm talking about, and coincidentally, I don't like them, either. As for Ludicolo, I don't think he's trying to 'represent' anything in the way Delphox or Machoke are. It's just a pineapple. I cannot think of a career or a pop culture figure that would be represented by a giant, furry pineapple. Yes, his head kind of looks like a sombrero, but he's not so heavily… themed? I'm not terribly fond of Ludicolo's design, though, so it doesn't really make a difference.
>>434181To be fair, I also think Chesnaught is ugly as sin lmao. He could've also stood to be a little more toned-down. I don't think they should've pushed the JRPG thing so hard when the end result is so unpleasant to look at (in my eyes). Greninja's at least subtle-looking in its theme, so it's not as obnoxious, but I'm still not a huge fan of Greninja. For the record, I picked Fennekin on my first playthrough and just didn't evolve it because I didn't want to have yet another bipedal starter with such an ugly design.
No. 434264
>>434184Not even comparable in my opinion! Ludicolo is a round pineapple, a kappa, a duck, some kind of plant with mittens for hands and stubby legs, striped fur/feathers(?) - that happens to have a little bit of mexican flavor in the design. It's a creature first, the human culture is just flavor.
Compare that to incineroar who is a wrestler wearing a cat costume, it has a human male body, human proportioned hands and feet and even opposable thumbs, fur pattern like human clothes, and it's entire deal is acting like a human wrestler in a human society. It's straight up a human first, the fact that it's a creature is very secondary.
It's not even that they're just a "pop culture reference" thing either, delibird is santa but because it's a creature first and has santa flavor later it doesn't come across as odd or unnatural. I can imagine delibird living in the arctic like a penguin, but I cannot imagine a wild incineroar because that's just a human with a human job.
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>>434259"gender unknown" has never been about whether they actually have genders or not. The Pokemon in this image are all "gender unknown" but all of them are treated as female.
What's strange is that it's not about knowing how they reproduce either because gendered Pokemon like Latios and Latias are in the "No eggs discovered" egg group too. It's really weird.
No. 434373
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>>434218People with no taste claim that she is the worst Johto starter, when clearly that honour goes to
Cyndaquil No. 434375
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>>434373But I like Cyndaquil… Look how cozy and cute she looks…
No. 434394
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>>434218It's not "hate", Grass starters are just always the worst (or least good) choice to pick aside from Bulbasaur in Kanto, and the Johto region especially is a very hostile region towards Grass-types. So picking Chikorita is almost like playing in hard mode.
No. 434396
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>>434394>grass starters are always the worstSerperior would like a word. But yeah Chestnaught is indefensible.
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>>433515Barbaracle is a good fit for Michigan
>covered in hands (mitten state)>water type (the lakes)>rock type (Petoskey stones) No. 434460
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>>434397But nona, have you considered that Serperior looks cool, which makes it a good grass starter?
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>>433758i hate this because it doesn't evolve from luvdisc
No. 434474
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>>433758medicham cause of its weird donut lips and boob legs
No. 434480
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>>434474this stupid thing is so fucking ugly. fighting type has the largest collection of uggos of all types
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>>434474take it back nona I love her
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If anyone has played this fan game, is it worth it? I love Pokemon Mystery Dungeon, and I've seen a bunch of positive reviews about this one. Is it different enough from Explorers of Sky to justify playing it instead of replaying Sky again?
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Anyone else like making playlists for their favorites?
No. 434609
>>434488>kyogreIn the Crown Tundra, Peony says this when you show him Kyogre: “Whoa! Is that Kyogre? The Pokémon they say created the seas?! If the ocean's the mother of all life…and Kyogre's the mother of the ocean… Should we all be callin' Kyogre our nan?! Listen up, Chief… You better be nice and gentle with that Kyogre!"
>XerneasIt’s female in the Diancie movie.
>none of them are called "she" as if it was a personThey are called “she” in Mystery Dungeon
No. 434653
>>434540Nta, but just watch some male youtubers talking about pokemon and they'll still casually call chikorita the "girl" of the trio. Pretty sure Ash's chikorita was female too so that's part of it
It's actually kind of weird, the world in the 90s/early 00s was so focused on separating girl and boys toys. Pink and flowers were for girls, trucks and monsters for boys. Yet pokemom back then were all fairly neutral, people did absolutely act like meganium was the girl choice but looking at it it's actually pretty neutral. Then flash forward to today when the world overall is more equal, now the starters get more and more separated by gender stereotypes and look more human than ever
No. 434668
>>434657>I don't think any other starter truly was seen as the "girl choice" again until primarina in gen 7 but correct me if I missed anyone!Serperior
Also Blaziken and Empoleon but that’s probably influenced by the animu
No. 434672
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don't care for older Ingo but I love that he raised the amount of cute tangela art, tangela is the best
No. 434673
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Please help me pick which starter I should choose for my FRLG playthrough. I love them all so I can't make up my mind.
https://strawpoll.com/xVg71wBbeyr No. 434715
>>434668>Serperior>Also Blaziken and EmpoleonVery strongly disagree with all, blaziken is basically a fighting manchicken and both serperior and empoleon look like kings/royals. None look female, and never have I ever seen them referred to as such (until now). Even if you personally see them as female it's definitely not a fandom consensus like primarina or meowscarada
>>434670I agree that delphox was the female choice
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>>434056>>434049I fucking LOVE Smugleaf, as soon as I saw it from the leaks I knew I had to pick it as my starter. I even bought this exact Snivy plush at a local convention (back when Black and White were still the newest Pokémon games) and treated it like a pet, kek.
Tepig is cute and all, but I just don't like Emboar's design, and Samurott didn't convince me either (too cluttered?). Serperior's design is peak, I don't care that its stats and movepool are shit.
I think I tend to prefer the reptilian or amphibian-looking starters, they're usually sleek and cool, and
usually don't look like furry bait, but rather, they stay true to the original idea of being cool battle monsters in the early gens. There are exceptions, though, like in Sinnoh, where I didn't like Turtwig/Torterra that much and prefer Chimchar/Infernape, since I also happen to like monke. I used to think I just preferred Grass types until I noticed this, and the fact that Totodile and Froakie are also my favorites from their respective regions.
What are you guys' starter preferences? Do you have a type preference or is it about the design or real-life animal the starter is based on for you?
>>434394>Grass starters are just always the worst (or least good) choice to pick aside from Bulbasaur in KantoWhat about Treecko in Hoenn? The whole region is water types, lol. It seems that you're strictly talking about their usefulness in battles, and not about the design like other nonas.
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>>434668I feel like more people I knew treated Oshawott as the 'girly choice' more than Snivy, which is a shame when Snivy is the cutest of the three.
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>>434668>>434657There have been some starters that were a bit more feminine or "made for girls", but none of them appeared particularly girly, except perhaps the Chikorita line, until we got Primarina.
>KantoThe Bulbasaur line have a flower on their back, but I don't remember reading or hearing anyone, IRL or online calling it a girly pokémon. It's even Bulbagarden's mascot. In the manga, Green (Leaf's counterpart) has a Blastoise, while Red has a Venusaur. And Blastoise isn't girly at all.
>JohtoMeganium is a flower dinosaur thing, but I never saw it or Bayleef as exclusively female or super feminine despite their cute happy faces, although Chikorita does give the impression of being female because of the name ending in -a, the "necklace" it has, and the anime influence. I might just be gaslighting myself and it's possible that I actually had a different impression when I was a kid, however. Other people definitely seem to consider it a feminine pokémon.
>HoennBlaziken isn't feminine at all in its original design and I haven't seen other people consider it the "girl choice" (furries are delusional, they feminize and pornify any creature standing on two legs, so take their opinion with a grain of salt). I think it's pretty popular with boys, and that's probably why it got a Mega before the other two Hoenn starters.
>SinnohPiplup might be cute "for the girls", but Empoleon doesn't look particularly feminine.
>UnovaSnivy is neutral, while I think Serperior is considered by some to be feminine, but it's not a consensus. I always thought it was just regal and saw it as more masculine or neutral. Furry scrotes obviously disagree and pornify the fuck out of it, but then again, they sexualize everything remotely "unmanly" and feminize it until it's unrecognizable.
>KalosDelphox is more "feminine" than the other starters, but the design appears to have a robe, not a dress, so it looks pretty neutral to me. My ex who is a Pokémon fan
and a coomer, so even some coomers disagree picked Fennekin and named it after Harry Potter, kek. On the other hand, Braixen is, unfortunately, more obviously feminine, so it became a furrycoomer favorite.
>AlolaThis one is obvious. Primarina shouldn't have been a starter.
>GalarNone are particularly feminine, despite the three being the most furry set of starters up to that point.
>PaldeaQuaquaval? It can look either faggy or feminine depending on who you ask, kek. Meowscarada looks neutral to me, but I'd understand if people thought it looks feminine. God I hate these furbait starters.
>>434491Can't say I ever experienced this, since I didn't have many friends who played Pokémon, but I did detect some retarded biases around starter pokémon sometimes on the internet. Like fire types being "the cool ones" for boys. Chorizard is popular in my country, but so are Squirtle (probably due to a meme) and its evolutions, while Bulbasaur is mostly forgotten but not hated.
>>434755>people I knew treated Oshawott as the 'girly choice' more than Snivy, which is a shame when Snivy is the cutest of the three.Why is it "a shame" that people don't think a cute pokémon is "girly"? Girly isn't synonymous with cute.
No. 434801
>>434770This is the level of sperging I expect from all you other nonas too!
>Piplup might be cute "for the girls", but Empoleon doesn't look particularly feminine.This, I think this is where a lot of people get confused. Blaziken isn't the girl choice, but torchic is the cutest one and therefor got favored by girls. But everyone likes a cute first stage starter, so it's still not considered girly by the fandom just from that.
>Primarina shouldn't have been a starter.Preach. Honestly just yeet every coomer bait and furry out of pokemon forever.
>Meowscarada looks neutral to meThat's insane to me, it looks the most coomer bait out of any starter we've ever had! It's even got a miniskirt/shorts and a girly hairstyle instead of ears
>Quaquaval? It can look either faggy or feminine depending on who you ask, kekTbh I have not even really seen coomers sexualize it, it's too gay even for them. I only see "queer ally" type of people like it. You know the kind of people who see an obviously traumatized child and tell them they were born in the wrong body and need to be mutilated to be happy and not kill themselves.
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>>434801>it looks the most coomer bait out of any starter we've ever had!I guess you're right, I was probably so disgusted by Meowscarada and try to avoid looking at it so much that I forgot how bad it is, kek. It
is very coomer, but I thought it was a bit more neutral so both male and female furfags could like it, that one Meowscaradafag probably psyopped me into thinking that. It's just furry coombait Roserade, I don't know why they thought such a design and concept (that had already been done 1000 times better) would be a good idea.
As for Quaquaval, which I also avoid looking at, I personally thought it looked gayer than feminine, aside from it being a terrible design even for coomers.
Also, IDK about you guys, but even before the final stages were revealed, I thought Sprigatito was a weak design for a starter. It feels like the plant elements weren't fully incorporated into the cat "base", and it becomes really noticeable in its final evolution. Floragato is pretty cool, but it suffers from the same problem, it would be much better if they didn't expect me to believe it's a Grass-type pokémon and wasn't green.
>>434786Ah ok, I can see the connection now, I thought you meant your girl friends who liked Pokémon. Yeah, fuck little scrotes for pressuring girls to do what the boys want instead of letting girls play freely.
OT but boys are rude pieces of shit who band together and appropriate jungle gyms and bouncy castles, completely ignoring the girls who are usually left waiting for their turn. Me and my sister experienced this in our childhood and I've seen it happen recently at work. So glad I was too shy to hang out with gamer boys, they "mean older brother syndrome" towards gamer girls.Anyway, that's retarded, there could've been two Snivy users with different movesets (isn't that the point of Pokémon? That each individual is unique with its gender, shinyness, IVs, ability, characteristic, moves, stats, etc.?), but those boys obviously didn't give a shit and just wanted to gatekeep you for no reason. I'm sorry that happened to you.
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just want to say i'm sorry for the experiences of you all as kids in this thread. i was definitely outnumbered by all the boy pokemon fans but i was never made fun of because i was a known bully who would beat up boys when we were that age (RIP to the way girls start off taller/as strong as boys but then we grow into being weaker.) they didn't treat me any different for the pokemon i liked or battled with or played with as toys. i never heard "bulbasaur is for girls" or whatever else. wish i had been at your guys' schools or daycares so i could have roped you into my girl friend group and scared the boys into respecting you.
No. 434817
>>434815>even before the final stages were revealed, I thought Sprigatito was a weak design for a starter. It feels like the plant elements weren't fully incorporated into the cat "base", and it becomes really noticeable in its final evolution.Personally I don't mind grass pokemon not being super "planty", if they at least read as somewhat grass type, and also instead lean into their other design inspiration - in this case a cat. The problem is they didn't lean into either grass type or cat for meowscarada, they instead drew a human furry magician which only sort of kinda has a plant + cat theme. Both the cat and the plant feels tacked on last minute.
I think sprigatito on its own is fine though, it's on par with litten also just being a cat.
>>434816>i was never made fun of because i was a known bully who would beat up boysKEK nona
No. 434818
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>>434027>Pokémon that look like homosexuals, mostly because Roselia went from cutie to washed up twinkWhat kind of mental illness is this? Roserade is obviously based on the concept of masquerades, I'm sorry that you associate pretty, half-lidded eyes with faggots. Like the other anons said, Roserade is more reminiscent of a masculine "bifauxnen" woman than a gay man or drag queen, kek. But even without that association, you could imagine Roserade as being inspired by the idea of elegant mysterious men wearing a mask. If anything, male Roserade in human form would be bishies à la Tuxedo Mask, not fags. It's so non-human looking, I don't know how you can come to the conclusion that it's a gay man.
Also, Primarina is absolutely not supposed to be that, it's just that all starters happen to have a 87.5/2.5 male/female ratio, while whoever designed Primarina obviously had a "female pokémon" in mind, considering that all those """"feminine"""" legendary pokémon are also (internally) considered to be female despite officially being of an "unknown gender", not to mention that GF would never make a drag queen starter (lmao). In general I just think people associating sexes (or whole human identities) to pokémon based on human biases is weird, especially when things like male Primarina happen because of shit planning or programming or design on GF's part. It's like trannies saying Marill is trans because of that programming bug. Male Roselia existed before Roserade, are they faggots too since they have long lashes and roses are "effeminate" according to some idiots? Kek.
In all honesty, though… I love Roserade, but even I thought that the design change from Roselia to Roserade was too radical. Both Roserade and Budew are so obviously from a different generation than Roselia that it is a bit jarring.
>>434816Based scrotelet destroyer
nonnie, I would've loved to join your gang, but I was too socially awkward to scream at other kids. Best I could've done is stand there clenching my fists and looking at them menacingly.
No. 434824
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>>434770I’ll give them props in that the hyper feminine starter is usually paired up with the male protagonist in Alola.
No. 434825
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>>434818Speaking of Roserade, it became one of my favorites when I started using it for competitive play in X. Its shiny form is also one of my favorite shinies! My shiny Roserade's name is
Deathorn because of the poison type and its coloration, and she's female.
I wonder how common it is to start loving a pokémon after adding it to your team out of convenience, it happened to me with Cradily and Slowking, too.
>>434824Based, tbh. I like that male and female trainers are often given the opposite of what you'd expect based on gender stereotypes, and it's usually
not treated like a big deal. Drew in the anime also had a Roselia.
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>>434817>>434818i was seriously so mean, i still feel bad for some of the things i did. i would beat up girls too but boys were way more frequent targets because i liked "boy things". when i established myself the "cool boys" at my elementary school who also went to the same daycare as me accepted me into their friend group so i played pokemon with them, cards and the games, and they treated me like another one of their own. i was able to get some of my meeker girl friends into it too. while i feel about how badly i hurt some of the other kids, i'm also at least glad i didn't end up being bullied myself.
>>434824i do like how in the franchise there's not really any sexism tied to pokemon themselves and never has been.
No. 434828
>>434826>i do like how in the franchise there's not really any sexism tied to pokemon themselves and never has been.Closest I can think of is the female Pikachu having a heart shaped tail (for some reason) and female Wobafett having lipstick the rest of the gender differences are just based on biological attributes of the real animal it’s based on.
It did make me think of this video though where they gave the ‘female’ versions tits kek.
No. 434829
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>>434825>I like that male and female trainers are often given the opposite of what you'd expect based on gender stereotypes, and it's usually notI think a lot of it comes from that they’re picked based on complementary character design and ‘vibes’ rather than the girl gets the most feminine looking one, which I like.
No. 434830
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>>434815>Anyway, that's retarded, there could've been two Snivy users with different movesets (isn't that the point of Pokémon? That each individual is unique with its gender, shinyness, IVs, ability, characteristic, moves, stats, etc.?), but those boys obviously didn't give a shit and just wanted to gatekeep you for no reason. I'm sorry that happened to you.Thank you, and I fully agree. They probably just didn't like the idea of a girl liking the same Pokemon as them, honestly, which screams of insecurity lol. It's funny because the other little girl I knew who liked Pokemon also had a wide range of favorites, so it was legitimately just the boys insisting on what we "should" like. I feel sorry for all the little girls who got pushed around like that.
>>434816>i was a known bully who would beat up boys when we were that ageLove this. I wish I'd been stronger-willed as a child and stood up for myself more, but unfortunately, that's something I had to develop with age.
No. 434841
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>>434817>I don't mind grass pokemon not being super "planty", if they at least read as somewhat grass type, and also instead lean into their other design inspiration - in this case a cat.>it's on par with litten also just being a cat.I guess you're right, I love Litten (but they ruined its final evo), but there really is nothing that makes it look Fire-type other than the color palette. I suppose with Sprigatito I was expecting more plant-like elements, like leaves or something, but instead it's a really fluffy cat with green fur.
>The problem is they didn't lean into either grass type or cat for meowscarada, they instead drew a human furry magician which only sort of kinda has a plant + cat theme. I just realized that it's supposed to be based on an Iberian lynx, which explains the "hairstyle", short tail and pointy "ears". The mask is supposed to be a stand-in for the ears but it still looks weird. But for some reason it looks like a vague furry anthro creature. It's about 50% human occupation stereotype, 30% cat/lynx and 20% plant, whereas something like Ludicolo is 40% kappa, 40% pineapple and 20% Mexican stereotype.
>>434826>>434824Beating up girls is concerning behavior, but I honestly don't mind mean, sexist boys being bullied into shutting up and leaving you alone.
>i do like how in the franchise there's not really any sexism tied to pokemon themselves and never has been.Yeah, even if sometimes it does feel like some pokémon are targeted at the average girl that likes cute, "girly" things to sell merch, like Eevee or Cosplay Pikachu (or female Pikachu), it's not like they're forcing every girl to like those, even the female characters have a wide variety of pokémon. (Side note, but Cosplay Pikachu also has a cool rockstar costume and a luchador costume, which is neat.)
I don't like that some of the female-only designs are based on feminine standards in human culture, or dumb shit like making them pink because pink is the girl color. But aside from that, I appreciate that all the other pokémon can be either male or female, and their gender differences are pretty inoffensive, or even realistic. Like female Camerupt having bigger volcanoes on their back, or male Unfezant being more colorful.
Last Roserade pic of the mini-dump, I don't wanna be banned for "avatarfagging". No. 434847
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>>434818>I love Roserade, but even I thought that the design change from Roselia to Roserade was too radical. Both Roserade and Budew are so obviously from a different generation than Roselia that it is a bit jarring.I LOVE Roserade. It's so pretty and elegant! I never really associated a gender with it, though, because it's just a plant. Unlike you, I don't mind the change from Roselia, and it never felt particularly odd to me. It feels like the Pokemon grew from something cute to a more graceful, stronger form. It's definitely not a Pokemon I felt had an illogical evolution, unlike Torracat to Incineroar or Dragonair to Dragonite, for example. Difference of preferences, but I never thought much of it.
>>434815>It is very coomerThe new starter evolutions depress me because so many are obvious furry bait. Can't they go and make their own Coomer Pokemon Clone game or something? The generations just keep becoming more and more furry-pandering with their bipedal Pokemons' designs. Lucario doesn't give the same vibes as Meowscarada, even though it's also popular with that crowd. I think it's in the face, or maybe that Meowscarada is basically wearing shorts and tights.
>>434817>Both the cat and the plant feels tacked on last minute.I agree completely. The worst insult of the furry designs is that they feel like human beings in fursuits as opposed to what they're actually trying to represent.
>>434264 made a really good post about this that I think articulated it in a way I was never able to put into words.
No. 434880
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Do any of you guys worry about posting fakemon, or Pokémon-inspired monster concepts or designs, because Game Freak might see them and scrap an idea for a new pokémon since it would be too similar to yours? According to the leaks, that's the reason they scrapped a Flying-type Eevelution for Gen 7, it looked too much like a fan design posted online.
I wanted to make a fangame with a region based on my country, but since I'm ultra-paranoid about legal action from GF I decided to develop a Pokémon clone instead. The region and story concepts were already pretty divorced from the official games anyway, kinda like how different and isolated Unova felt in Black/White. But no matter what I do, Game Freak might still end up finding my designs and discarding pokémon that I'd like to see in an actual Pokémon game.
>>433892Call me retarded but somehow I think Delphox is cool as fuck. I didn't even realize it was supposed to form an RPG trio because it, Greninja and Chesnaught's designs aren't too obvious next to each other, IMO. I like Delphox's "mage" concept, and don't mind it being bipedal. Its legs are completely covered by its "robe" which I find cool although it makes no sense; on the plus side, it's not as bad as Incineroar or Cinderace. Though I would say that it had absolutely no reason to be bipedal, even though older starters like Charizard, Blastoise, Sceptile or Typhlosion also stood on two legs, since Delphox's kind of bipedalism is noticeably different. Now that I think about it, fire starters have
always been bipedal, haven't they? (Until Skeledirge happened, that is.)
What I hate is that furwaifufaggots appropriated its pre-evolution and now I can't see Braixen without thinking of all the coomers. Before learning that people online saw it as a furry girl, I saw Braixen as a normal, neutral pokémon. Was I being blind? Now I'm wondering why the fuck GF had to make it so "feminine", in addition to being bipedal. It didn't bother me before only because I hadn't noticed it. I guess you could see it as a cute male furry, but it's too late, now that everyone has decided that Braixen is a girl.
No. 434936
>>434880>But no matter what I do, Game Freak might still end up finding my designs and discarding pokémon that I'd like to see in an actual Pokémon game.I think this might be an unpopular opinion, but I say don't worry about it. Not because GF won't scrap their designs (I have no idea what they'll do), but because you're making your own game. If you're seriously developing a game, you shouldn't compromise your personal vision out of fear that a company MIGHT see your game, and MIGHT have to scrap their own design because it MIGHT be similar to one of your ideas. Regardless of that, though, I also think having it entirely separate from Pokemon (ie not a fan game) with a completely different art style will make this less of an issue if one of your ideas is somewhat similar. I don't know the exact case with the Eeveelution you mentioned, but you have to remember that's kind of a specific instance because it's an evolution of a preexisting Pokemon. If you're creating a creature from scratch, GF has a lot more plausible deniability if one of their designs is tangentially similar to yours. It's a lot harder to say your Eeveelution just so happens to look like a fan Eeveelution than it is to say that your fire wolf happens to look like another unrelated game's fire wolf.
>What I hate is that furwaifufaggots appropriated its pre-evolution and now I can't see Braixen without thinking of all the coomers.AYRT, and I'm sure this probably also contributes to the distaste I feel toward Delphox. I'll admit it's not as obvious as Meowscarada, but both Braixen and Delphox feel very distinctly furry to me, which only worsened my disappointment. I was kind of excited when I first saw Fennekin because I thought, "there's no way they could make this one bipedal! It's going to evolve into something great for sure." Charmander, Cyndaquil, Torchic, and Chimchar had started out as bipedal, so it wasn't surprising they ended up that way, and I was SO confident there wouldn't be a repeat of Tepig.
No. 434941
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>>434880Braixen is cute and doesn't look coomery to me, it looks like a "sisterly" design that little girls tend to like. That of course just makes me more grossed out degenerate men think it's coom for them… and tbf the pic you posted makes it look gross somehow, the gloss and the pose is odd. In usual art I think it's cute tho.
Switching topics a tiny bit, but what do you nonas think is the motivation behind each starter set? At least in the last half of gens they seem more tied to the real life region, but sometimes they make seemingly no sense too. unless maybe they do and it's something I hadn't thought of
For example as was mentioned earlier Kalos had a frog starter (kek) which is super stereotypical for France. Alola has a tropical seal-mermaid, Paldea an ugly dancer bird and iberian lynx. But a gorilla in the UK, fennec fox in France and crocodile in Spain?
No. 434946
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>>434941>crocodile in SpainThe pattern on its head makes me think it's loosely based on Paque Güell's lizard.
Yeah it's a completely different animal and color palette, but when I first saw Skeledirge my mind when directly to it.
No. 434956
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OH MY GOD, I FOUND THE DOC CONTAINING THE ORIGINAL TEAM FLARE GRUNT DESIGNS! It was in a document with "negative checks" with notes on specific changes before finalizing designs. Their reason?
>Because it was similar to a character from another company (Ghost Trick character)Unsurprisingly, everyone on Twitter thought exactly that kek, good call.
>>434907>>434936Thanks for your input, nonners. I guess the safest, least troublesome path would be to use an entirely different art style. It's a shame, because I really wanted to design creatures in a style reminiscent of Pokémon. I hope being unrelated to actual pokémon is enough. On the other hand, if I don't hurry up and release my game first, they could make a pokémon that's similar to one of my designs and then
I'll be called a plagiarizer, lol.
>>434941>what do you nonas think is the motivation behind each starter setYou can just go to Bulba to read some theories, but I can share info from the doc with the reasoning behind their names if you want. Although we don't have the docs for the most recent gens.
(If nonnas are interested, I can do the same for the human characters, but I've only read the Hoenn one, so if you want a different region, I'll have to search for it.)
No. 434959
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>>434936>>434933I can finally post this translation that's been circulating. I was looking for the source file in my copy to confirm the information, and I found it. The filepath is
GFDocs/開発素材DB/★データベース元データ/01_ポケモン仕様書/16_SM/00_スケジュール/00_プロジェクト全体/pokemon/ポケモンデザイン進行管理.xlsxOriginal text because the translation is kinda bad:
>・ファンが創作したデザインとの類似を指摘されたことで、デザインコストが非常に高くなると判断。・ひこうイーブイをメインキャラに据えた遊びがあるなど、利用価値が高いのであれば高コストを掛ける判断もできるが、現状はそうではない。
・新ポケモンの重要度を判断できるまで保留とする。
>>434958KEK, we can pretend it is.
No. 434960
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She's doing the Nazi salute! OMG how could they!!
I cracked up when I saw this thumbnail in the corrections doc since I immediately knew what the "problem" was, not gonna lie.
No. 434961
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I'm glad they changed the Minun design on her clothes from her butt to her back. She's my favorite trainer class.
No. 434964
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They changed Lysandre's hair and beard because they thought he looked too much like Wolverine, kek.
The hair was an improvement, for sure. But the beard is worse, IMO.
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This is getting ridiculous
No. 434967
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Team Magma's salute was changed because:
>The right arm may be perceived as a preparatory movement for the Nazi salute. Wikipedia defines this salute as "a gesture in which the right hand is stretched out while standing upright, held horizontally at chest level, and then the arm is extended diagonally upwards with the palm facing downwards." However, there is a similarity between the movement of holding the arm horizontally at chest level and the pose of the right arm in this illustration. This concern can be resolved by clenching the hand held at chest level into a fist.
They're really extremely paranoid about any potential controversy, aww. I kinda feel bad for them after the seizures and all the legal shit they got into in the early gens. I'm always reminded of this when I watch any official Pokémon videos and the whole thing becomes much darker whenever there's VFX with bright lights. I've never seen any other company or franchise darken the video so much when that happens.
No. 434971
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>>434969>American marketers are so retarded they tried to convince Game Freak to change designs since the very beginning to appeal to drooling retarded American boys, like trying to make pikachu a sexy tiger woman with big breasts instead of a small and cute electric mouse.What in the fuck?? I've never heard of this. Please give a source, it sounds hilarious.
>or some Kotaku(?) tranny lying about how Persona 5 and Atlus are ableist because he misheard English lyrics in one of the songs when playing Smash Ultimate and thought the Japanese singer with a Japanese accent said "retarded" instead of "retort"FUCKING KEK
It's a good thing that GF has the localizers detect any potentially controversial detail for them, then. A lot of the changes also were due to female characters' miniskirts being too fucking tiny, or the poses a bit too sexual, and the Japanese team somehow not noticing, so I think most, if not all of these changes were justified.
No. 434973
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>>434941I thought the Galar starters were an homage to British entertainment. Rillaboom is a punk rock drummer, Cinderace is a football player, and Inteleon is a James Bond reference.
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>>434971>and the Japanese team somehow not noticingJapanese fashion, or even Asian in general, is different from what you can find in the West so I'm not surprised the Japanese devs didn't notice or care before. Women tend to wear skirts, dresses and shorts a lot more often than what I see in Europe, from my experience, and I've been told showing your cleavage and shoulders is considered more vulgar than showing your legs in Japan. I wouldn't mind the localizers making suggestions if it didn't result in the abominations that are the uniforms in SV though. There's a middle ground between cute but way too short clothes and hideous and bland clothes with almost no alternate options.
>Please give a source, it sounds hilarious.Looked for a source and it turns out the story might be a bit different but still equally stupid and funny. Pic rel is the source I had for a long time, here's a link for more context though:
https://www.reddit.com/r/TruePokemon/comments/ufzm7x/attempting_to_dispel_the_myth_of_how_nintendo_was/?rdt=38609 No. 435008
>>434956>You can just go to Bulba to read some theories,>>434973>I thought the Galar starters were an homage to British entertainment.Sure, but why those animals? What came first, the drummer or the gorilla? The rabbit or the football player? The slenderman anorexic lizard or james bond?
We can read bulbapedia on likely origins but I still wonder WHY they picked those in a lot of cases. For example do we think it's a gorilla because they wanted to represent music, and a monkey hitting cymbals/drums is a common concept so they used that secondarily to the music idea? Or were they set on doing a gorilla in the UK for some other reason, and the music came after that?
I'm just really curious what the design process might be. Usually when fans design their own regions based on a real country, they ONLY use animals tied to that country and often don't dare to step out of line. If you do a fake-australia region you make a kangaroo, a koala and a crocodile. But if we look at pokemon lately imo it almost seems like the animals is often the last thought brought to the design. A lizard/chameleon is sneaky and therefor fits the James Bond spy idea, a rabbit is fast and can then be used to represent sport and so on.
No. 435103
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>>434959This is interesting! Thank you nonna. Some people are speculating it may be some fan design posted on the internet before 2014 (and they digged up some possible candidates). I think these are cute, what do you nonnas think? Which flying Eevee design do you like the most? Or do you have any other you like in mind?
>>434565I want to hear the playlist nonna!
No. 435122
>>435103I think it's way more likely game freak came across Japanese fan designs circulating Japanese sites, so I take English fan speculation with a grain of salt. Though idk where they find those posted, so they could be Japanese!
But god how tragic it must be to be that artist, you make your dream flying type eeveelution because you love eevee and it was actually SO close to becoming a reality, but the person who ruined it all from happening was YOU. If only they hadn't posted it we would all have had something very close to that eeveelution for real. And now we'll instead never have that eeveelution at all.
No. 435130
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>>435103this one is really cute, but the colors make me think of both altaria and vaporeon so i think it'd look better a bit more darker/saturated blue. i also think it should have wings on its back.
No. 435140
>>435103I briefly saw some fan flying Eeveelutions, and I liked the concept of it having wings on its head, or ears that look like/double as wings. The idea of a flying Eevee that looks like a fluffy cloud is cute, but Altaria and Swablu already exist, and I find the white "cloud" fur + blue body to be a bit cliché.
>>435008>Sure, but why those animals? What came first, the drummer or the gorilla? The rabbit or the football player? The slenderman anorexic lizard or james bond? I think that process would only be clear once we saw the original concept art where the pokémon designers first came up with those ideas, but at least we know that they probably come up with the sepcies "base" first, and then add more stuff. In all the design documents, before they come up with names for all the pokémon, they call them by their basic concept instead, for example "peanut 1" and "peanut 2" for the scrapped peanut pokémon and its evolution that looked like a kangaroo or dinosaur.
So for the Galar starters, they probably came up with the species inspiration first, like "fire rabbit", then came up with the extra design elements.
>>435012>often pokemon characters like Cynthia who he then encourages other real female cosplayers to do shipping/fetish photos with.Unrelated to this troon, but this reminded me of a friend I have in Pokémon Masters who always makes photos shipping Cynthia and other blond/light-haired female characters kissing and blushing, the person's profile is all pink and their avatar is female wearing the pink clothes, so I'm getting major troon vibes from that and I wanna purge them from my friends list, kek. Since this is the Pokémon fandom we're talking about, I'm more inclined to believe it's a troon and not a real lesbian. Lesbians usually have characters like Rika in their picture.
No. 435154
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>>435130Oh! This looks even better than the original. I disagree about the wings, though. I like the ethereal cloud beast look it currently has. Wings almost seem too predictable.
>>434941>what do you nonas think is the motivation behind each starter set?I've heard that the Unova starters were supposed to resemble the three social classes in feudal Japan. As in Serperior is the rulers, Samurott is the samurai, and Emboar is the working man, but this never really sat right with me because Unova is based on America, and I struggle to see how a pro wrestler represents the working class kek. Alternatively, I've seen the interpretation that they represent different cultures, Like Samurott is Japan, Serperior is some European country, and Emboar is… I don't know? I do not understand how a wrestler pig ties into ANY of these theories.
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>>435103This is the one I like! Very cute.
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here's some random other fakeeveelutions i really like (ghost, steel, bug, poison, ground and fighting)
No. 435189
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>>435154>Alternatively, I've seen the interpretation that they represent different culturesIt's not an interpretation, they literally stated it directly in interviews. Emboar isn't a wrestler either.
I hate their current "rules" for starters. I hate that they give them human jobs and I hate this "personality type" bullshit they force onto starters, I want to decide for myself that they could be anything I want. I don't want an idiot fuecoco with 0 braincells bumping into thing for comic effect, I want it to be an aggressive little demon croc. I don't want my cinderace to play the most boring sport known to man, I want it to just be a rabbit. I truly feel the starters have lost their magic. I finally understand why people box them right away.
No. 435212
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I think Legends Z-A was cancelled
No. 435250
>>435227it's just the same anon who keeps baiting with random nonsense because she's bored, just ignore her
>>435130I think this design is too "gen 1" as it matches the gen 1 trio in style. It's more likely a new eevee would look more like the far right option in
>>435103 which is a bit more similar to sylveon. I prefer the first one though.
No. 435271
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>>435186>didn't wresting originate in the US?Definitely not! The sport has been around since ancient times. Probably most famously, it was one of the sports featured in the Olympics back in Ancient Greece, so organized, competitive wrestling has been a thing for a while.
>Or at least as a non-burger I associate WWE a lot with the USThat part about the WWE is true, though, as that particular organization of wrestling is a US creation.
>>435189>It's not an interpretation, they literally stated it directly in interviews. Emboar isn't a wrestler either. Oh, dang. Didn't realize that came from an official source and wasn't just a fan theory. I feel like my world has been shaken, learning that Emboar is not a wrestler, though, kek. I guess it makes more sense why Incineroar was also a wrestler. It always pissed me off that they made TWO wrestling fire starters.
>I hate their current "rules" for starters. I hate that they give them human jobs and I hate this "personality type" bullshit they force onto startersI agree completely. It's dumb and it has led to the past few generations' starters evolving into something unpleasant to look at. I'm not even excited to see the final evolutions of starters anymore.
No. 435319
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>>435283The previous legends game was announced on pokemon day February 27 and released January 28 the next, 11 months later. The initial trailer was very far ahead in production compared to the teaser for Z-A and specified the release in "EARLY 2022". The Z-A trailer just says "2025" which is a fully reasonable term to use to mean "December 31 2025". There is literally no reason to be a retard and cry "reeeee they cancelled it!!!11!" when there are 13 whole fucking months left of the period they specified the release day for.
No. 435512
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Does anyone else hate how these guys were named? I don't mind the chinese flavor, however I dislike how it takes over the full name and also what it then implies. In gen 1 we had articuno, zapdos and moltres, so their element + spanish, so they got that foreign flavor while still keeping an english root word so we all still knew what it means. Articuno is obviously an ice type name. Ting-Lu tells me nothing about it as a name.
And secondly while it implies a Chinese region exists and that's fun, I would really hate it if all names in that region where just Chinese like these legendaries are and it's setting up to be. I have zero chance of connecting or remembering any of the names in that case (I legit cannot name just these 4 and have to look it up every time).
No. 435688
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The SubMas japanese fandom rabbit hole is too autistic for me. Basically, they draw all the different iterations of the characters as different people, which means Game SubMas, Anime SubMas, PokéSpe SubMas and sometimes ever Mastersex SubMas all get drawn as different people. At most I can get it for the anime version since apparently they're just boring normal guys there, but all the rest are very samey to me (they barely even count as characters in PokéSpe, but I digress)…
Anyway, they ship all these different versions together, like Game Ingo/Anime Ingo, but the funniest bit about this whole alt versions deal to me is that they treat Ingo and Emmet (their selves in the english version of the game) as different guys and they often give them blue eyes, blonde hair and terrible english (but they can't decide if they're from the US or from the UK kek). Oh and they get shipped with their japanese selves, of course.
No. 435731
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>>435512yeah the names are super weird, they used the old ass romanisation system too.
i think the fish and snail are great designs but the way they were handled in-game was shit.
like the idea of these cursed exotic items being sealed away was nice but it was so tedious to hunt for them and there was 0 link to the rest if the region. then again paldea sucks.
No. 435794
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I, for one, am glad they're taking their time with Z-A. I don't want another shitty, rushed game; hopefully they're actually using this time to properly develop it after all the complaints about SV being a buggy mess. It would restore my faith in the franchise, honestly. And it gives me more time to catch up with the latest generations. (Maybe the leaker talking about Z-A will motivate them to finish and polish it properly.)
>>435688>Basically, they draw all the different iterations of the characters as different people, which means Game SubMas, Anime SubMas, PokéSpe SubMas and sometimes ever Mastersex SubMas all get drawn as different people. Based, all of those are different continuities. I do the same with my husbando, I get autistically
triggered when people mix them up.
But the different universe fanart stuff is just your typical JP fangirl autism, I've seen it with other franchises as well. I think it's cute.
>they treat Ingo and Emmet (their selves in the english version of the game) as different guys and they often give them blue eyes, blonde hair and terrible englishKek, this is so weird though. Reminds me of Ryuuichi Naruhodou and Phoenix Wright (one has brown eyes, the other blue eyes due to the localization taking place in the US). But Ingo & Emmet are from Unova/Isshu regardless of language, and they have the same appearance too. So dumb, lmao.
>I can get it for the anime version since apparently they're just boring normal guys thereOh, I'm not even a trainfag, but this is kinda disappointing. I remember how excited I was for the Black & White anime season, because Gen 5 was the first time I played a Pokémon game in the same year it came out. But I started watching religiously on Cartoon Network and it was so boring that I dropped it. Apparently they had greater plans for Best Wishes, but a lof of stuff had to be cancelled, like the Team Plasma plot? I didn't watch that part but that plot seems too have suffered the most. So it doesn't surprise me much to hear that Ingo & Emmet are boring in the anime.
Also Ghetsis cute
No. 435821
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>>435688>Ingo and Emmet (their selves in the english version of the game) as different guys and they often give them blue eyes, blonde hair and terrible english (but they can't decide if they're from the US or from the UK kek). Oh and they get shipped with their japanese selves, of courseThey did this for most countries I'm pretty sure, I think the english ones were just the most popular (the whole thing was basically their version of all those different types of Sans undertale)
It's a very strange fandom and definitely proof that jp tism can be just as bizarre as overseas tism.
No. 435822
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>>435688god bless all trainautists
No. 435825
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>>435794>Also Ghetsis cuteHe fucked a Zoroark though
No. 435883
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No. 435886
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>>435825Can you stop going "he did XYZ though/he is gay though/he is pedo though" everytime someone posts an husbando? You're not funny, just annoying.
No. 435896
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cute mew in a dress
No. 436075
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i love the 'saurs
No. 436226
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>>433234Happy anniversary!
>>434030Happy anniversary!
No. 436435
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>>436341Idc if this is an unhinged theory but I really think the start was when they made the 3D models for gen 6 they went "sooo what IS venusaur? It's like a toad, right?" and changed the anatomy (back legs in particular) to look twice as long and folded over, making it look toadier. It NEVER had legs like that before, the legs in all other media had always been stumpy and it was always walking/running around, never hopping or acting like a toad. It always had a few toad-qualities and inspiration, but it never acted like one. Just like how pikachu is a mouse, but doesn't really act or look like one, and same with poliwhirl being a frog etc. Venusaur still kept walking and didn't hop until Let's go games either. My theory is that they've slowly been turning venusaur into a literal toad because they're 1. uncomfortable leaving it ambiguous, and/because 2. they've been switching from pokemon being monsters into being cute pet-animals so they want to animal-ify it by making it act like a real animal.
No. 436436
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>>436435this is how it used to run in the anime
No. 436442
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>>436353The anon you replied to is probably baiting, but it's a reference to that fan theory that was popular years ago where N is a Zoroark and that's why he can talk to Pokemon.
>>436075I love this. So cute.
>>436435None of that line ever struck me as especially frog-like, but Bulbasaur did hop around in Mystery Dungeon. I will say that it looked a lot less awkward in the PMD games than in the 3D games. Sorry for gif quality. It was the best I could find.
No. 436446
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>>436442to be fair a lot of pokemon move strangely in PMD, especially as small pixel sprites. Vulpix also does the little hop
No. 436455
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>>436226Happy anniversary indeed! When I found promo, box and concept art
PSD FILES in their original resolution, I was sooooo ecstatic! Up until now, we only had lowres versions of these pics. They'll make for such killer posters. These files are 100+ MB in size originally, so I had to shrink them. We even have PSDs for model textures with all their original layers, that's so crazy.
>>436129Well, to be fair, "saur" is only in the English name. They have a toad-like body shape, but I don't know any dinosaur that looked like that specifically.
Also, they are officially based on/inspired by frogs:
https://web.archive.org/web/20101230153442/http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ds/interview/irbj/sp/index4.html>杉森>はい。だからフシギバナに進化する前のフシギダネには、カエルの様な生き物の上に球根がくっついているんです。>桐谷>その球根が、カエルの上で花を咲かせるんですね！？ >杉森>そうです、モチーフはカエル。>桐谷>カエル・・・カエル・・・。カエルなんですね。これは新しい発見だ！>Sugimori>Yes. So before Bulbasaur evolves into Venusaur, it has a bulb attached to a frog-like creature.>Kiritani>And that bulb makes the flower bloom on a frog!?>Sugimori>That's right, the motif is a frog.>Kiritani>A frog… a frog… It's a frog. This is a new discovery!Although it's possible that the 'saur line is also inspired by dinos, like how the Char line is inspired by dragons as well as lizards.
Another bit of starter design trivia: according to this other interview, the first three starters were designed "working backward" from their final evolutions.
https://web.archive.org/web/20211108083831/https://www.pokemon.com/us/pokemon-news/creator-profile-the-creators-of-pikachu/ No. 436460
>>436457AYRT and I agree fully. I just think the Bulb line is a combination of a toad and a dinosaur, plus no frog
or dinosaur has ears like Venusaur's.
No. 436503
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didn't think posting cute bulba fanart would start this much debate. this is the azumarill egg controversy all over again lmao.
anyway i love venusaur best kanto starter
No. 436515
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>>436503it's not as retarded as the wet egg debated tbh and what the bulba line is has always been a topic of contention. however i think it doesn't NEED to be one thing. it can be multiple things at once, since it clearly is.
also remember the first time we saw a venusaur walking it was shuffling, not hopping. (don't talk to me about how it's akshully a robot)
No. 436519
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>>436513NTA but why tf are you bringing up yumes? What the hell
No. 436550
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>>436503>didn't think posting cute bulba fanart would start this much debate. Is there even really a debate? Everyone seems to agree it's based on frogs/toads but just doesn't really look like one
>>436519nta but I can't tell if you're joking or being hypersensitive for real but either way it made me kek
No. 436553
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>>436550AYRT, I was the one who posted Ghetsis (who isn't even my husbando, kek). The Gengar anon was someone else, I just assumed that anon had seen this kind of reply in other threads and was tired of seeing it. I imagine the anon who brought up yumes thought we were the same person, when actually I liked the pic she posted despite it being fujoshit.
I thought it was a reference to the Characters You Love thread where someone would reply "he's useless and a sexist creep tho" but seems I was totally wrong…I was going to post this on Christmas but Merry Christmas everyoneeee
No. 436559
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HAPPY EASTER
No. 436566
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>>436561both are needed for maximum flavor
No. 436589
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>>436561I love both twins but Emmet is my favorite because he's weirder.
No. 436596
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>>436515Yeah I don't know why people can't help but argue so much against what is so obvious to anyone with a pair of eyes.
No. 436644
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for me Venusaur is like some weird version of Beelzebufo the prehistoric frog/toad
No. 436647
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>>436625damn there were so many good ones. look at my boy politoed and his little umbrella…
No. 436654
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What are your headcanon teams each player character would use if they ever re-appeared as NPCs that you could battle?
No. 436671
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>>436625The Gengar one would make a cute blanket.
No. 436680
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>>436625I like how subtle this quagsire one is
No. 436742
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>>436625ditto's is soooo cute
No. 436842
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>>436654here's my idea for a kris team if she was a champion battle. if anyone wants unbridled autism i can explain each choice too
No. 436868
>>436858- ampharos is chosen because she caught a mareep early on and didn't think much of it besides helping her with falkner. however, after seeing amphy at the lighthouse, she was awestruck by the strength of this pokemon and the way it used power to help people, so she decided to keep it.
- porygon2 is a love letter to advancing tech. no real deep reason, just somewhat meta appreciation of GSC as monumental games and what they were able to accomplish.
- skarmory comes from her journey back home. a rare, tough pokemon that shines like a crystal and is comprised of the brand new type, steel.
- lapras was found deep in union cave, a nod to its mysterious and somewhat creepy method of capture and tribute to the new clock system in game. i debated switching this with the red gyarados at lake of rage.
- meganium is chosen solely because it gets too much hate, and it's adorable and strong. it's for hardcore mode players. really any starter can go here, but i feel like meganium fits kris partly because she was shoved out of HGSS. no hate to lyra but i'm still kind of sad about that! therefore i picked the least popular of the starters.
- tyranitar is a symbol of the endgame, and shows how kris trekked through mt. silver and trained enough to harness the terrifying power of a pseudo-legendary. i thought about giving her suicune but wanted to follow how the games never have a trainer use a legendary unless it's an antagonist team boss using the legendary for evil deeds. also i think she would just let suicune be free.
No. 436886
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>>436868I like your picks - these would be mine for her:
- meganium as the starter choice, same 'hard-mode' reasoning as you
- azumarill as the 'pikachu-clone' representative on the team
- togetic as a nod to the gift egg, and the new breeding mechanics introduced in gen 2
- red gyarados from the gen 2, also a nod to the shiny system introduced in gen 2
- umbreon as a nod to the day/night cycle. I went with umbreon as Red already canonically uses espeon in gen 2, also the dark type was introduced this gen so I feel it works better for her
- dragonite, which would carry extremespeed, as obtained from defeating the 8th gym in gen 2. Dragonite suits Kris better design wise too imo, Tyranitar would be better suited to the rival Silver
No. 437393
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i love the marill wallpaper. look at her
No. 437463
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>>437393Surprised nobody posted
terf azumarill yet! Even more surprised to see it features a little wooper when quagsire was just chosen as another terfy icon, what a cute coincidence
No. 437464
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And we have to show off miltank of course
No. 437648
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God, I'm so nostalgic for PMD. The art, the music, the stories… there's never been a game I've felt more at home playing. I don't know why it has had me in such a chokehold for so long, but it has.
No. 437739
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When I was a kid I was afraid of water to the point where I was afraid to take baths or showers, but then I played I think it was yellow and Lapras quickly became my favorite. I was no longer afraid of water, because I had a cute Lapras toy with me, and my kid brain believed that if anything somehow went wrong that she would save me. Kind and gentle mon.
No. 437741
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>>437739Awwww fuck, this is so cute, I love Lapras, I like how it was made with the idea of being a means of transportation in the Pokémon world. The concept of riding Pokémon is so comfy. Now I'm thinking of that scene from the Mewtwo movie where everyone reaches Mewtwo's island on their pokémon's back, so nostalgic.
No. 437744
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Did you know that back in 2016 there was a nationwide event in all the Pokémon Centers in Japan, where cosplayers LARPing as the six main villains (at the time) would appear and give you their ace as a Mystery Gift, which also included a Wonder Card with a special message by the character addressed to you?
https://web.archive.org/web/20160907165044/https://www.pokemon.co.jp/info/2016/09/160902_p01.htmlhttps://web.archive.org/web/20161010071756/http://www.pokemon.co.jp/info/2016/09/160930_p01.html?news_recommend=attentionIt was called "Pokémon Center Occupation Plan" (ポケモンセンター占拠計画) and ran from October 1st to November 11th. The villain at each Pokémon Center would be accompanied by "grunts" (normal people wearing t-shirts with the Team's logo kek), and they would rotate every week. This event was so popular that they extended it by 2 days. After the giveaway period, the people who received the villains' pokémon could challenge the "bosses" to a Pokémon battle in ORAS.
Naturally, this generated a shitton of fanart and funny tweets by people visiting their local villain.
Learning about this made me very sad ngl, I've never wished I could experience a Japan-exclusive event so badly, I'm literally tearing up just thinking about it again kek No. 437745
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>>437744Pictured is a tweet by a visitor. If I understand correctly, a bunch of people gathered around the Ghetsis as he begged and screamed autistically for the audience to release their pokémon, while they just kept laughing and taking pictures of him, lmao. One of his assistants said:
>It looks like Lord Ghetsis is unable to stand up, so please, go ahead and continue taking pictures!! [kind smile emoji]KEKKKK
It looks like Ghetsis was particularly popular. (Thanks to these tweets I realized that he has maou/demon lord vibes and that it'd be fun to bully him, kek.)
For those interested, the special pokémon that were given at this event can be easily found online if you look for "gen 6 local distribution events" or similar. And yes, there are ways to inject Mystery Gifts into your game. I haven't been able to try it myself because I haven't modded my 3DS, though. I'll try on emulator.Otherwise, you can read the Japanese messages in the Wonder Cards on Bulbapedia:
https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/List_of_local_event_Pok%C3%A9mon_distributions_in_Generation_VI#Pok%C3%A9mon_Center_Occupation_Plan_Pok%C3%A9monWhy does Japan always get the cool shit and not the rest of us?? And on the occasion that the west also gets awesome stuff like this, it's US & Canada only 99% of the time.
No. 437804
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>>437784Fuck, I regret dropping Pokémon that year, I could've seen all of it in real time, now a good chunk of those tweets are gone…
No. 438345
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Post reaction images
No. 438349
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>>438345I enjoy the shitpost potential the betamons have
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>>438345fuck it, have some of my old /vp/ drawfag days
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No. 438366
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and done
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i love bug types
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No. 438724
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So the gen 10 rumor is that it will be based on Greece. Any thoughts on it? Would you like Greece or would you prefer some other country?
No. 438794
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>>438724Spoiler for Legends Arceus. Lowkey excited we might get more information about Volo's past.
No. 438845
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>>438790I think the female looks nice and pokemony enough but the boy is kinda ugly, he's giving tif vibes. I prefer picrels take on greek protags. Though I don't think pokemon protags ever actually look that culturally distinct and they'd look much more generic if they were real
No. 438909
>>438724I'd take it but only if the games are good. I don't want them to fuck up the mediterranean again.
Also the more of these regions are blatantly inspired by real life places the more I find it weird and unusual how they still house three billion types of places… deserts, tundras, what have you, in a map that's clearly outlined over a real life place.
Imo only Unova did it in a way that isn't weird, same for Pasio (Pasio is based off of Italy). Unova being based off a part of NYC instead of all of the US helped it feel less cramped and Pasio has a map that looks like an Italian gulf but otherwise is original (its beta map bothered the shit out of me).
I know this applies to Kanto, Johto, Hoenn and Sinnoh too and I also find those a little weird but it helped that they were 2d games and also had less types of climates shown.
No. 439160
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Kanto is so uninteresting as a region, I hope they make a Legends game for it after Z-A.
No. 439269
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>>438724I love Greece, and I think it has the potential to have a gorgeous environment to explore. I'm thinking rocky cliffs and a more rugged terrain. I'm not in love with these protagonist designs, especially the boy, but the girl's hair is cute. I hope we'd get to see Falinks a lot, and maybe some other Pokemon similar to that. Unfortunately, I'm not as excited as I should be because it'll be a newer Pokemon game and I haven't had as much fun with the newer games, but Greece is one of those areas I'd hoped to see one day.
No. 439414
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>>439269>I hope we'd get to see Falinks a lotOh this reminds me of one thing that is annoying to me about the regions being based on real places! Because they still take inspiration from all over the world you get things like tatsugiri, the literal sushi pokemon, not existing in any Japanese region at all but being native to the Spanish region. Falinks is a British pokemon, it will always be a British pokemon and possibly won't even appear in the Greek region at all.
You have so many pokemon that are so clearly culturally significant to a real life country and they just hand it to another region. There's only a handful of dex entries that save it, like how galarian meowth is said to not be native to Galar but having been brought there by "seafaring people", and urshifu is from "mountains in a distant region". But even then that's of course weird because we haven't seen those other regions and possibly never will! Just because they decide to make a Chinese region doesn't mean they're actually gonna put urshifu in that game either.
No. 439429
>>439411>It has the exact same environments (grass, cave, water etc) with nothing new.- ruins of alph
- national park
- lighthouse
- lake of rage
- bell tower
- ice path
- battle tower
are all unique areas / concepts with unique puzzles.
No. 439501
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Breloom is getting Porygon'd because of this for sure kek
No. 439513
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>>439427>The towns / areas in Johto have so much more personality and unique aesthetics behind them than KantoI fully agree. But it's still not much of an improvement imo. Johto is just Kanto 2, which is what I dislike about it. It's not really a region on its own, while at least Kanto is the original.
>>439429Just because they gave it a different name doesn't mean it was actually different. The national park is just another basic grassy area, the light house and bell tower aren't different than going through other buildings in Kanto, and Kanto also has ice caves where you catch seel and articuno. The lake of rage is just water and literally only had fucking magikarp and gyarados - not even a gen 2 pokemon. The ruins are the best addition imo, I will give them that.
Johto gym leaders don't even use the new Johto pokemon and instead use basic Kanto pokemon so they're boring to fight against. Did you know out of the entire johto gym leader teams combined only 4 johto pokemon are used in total? Miltank, steelix, piloswine and kingdra. The rest are all Kanto pokemon. And some of the new "Johto" pokemon couldn't even be caught in Johto, just in Kanto in the post game! So they're really just Kanto pokemon.
The evil team is just team Rocket again, not a new team like every other region has. The elite 4 is just the same elite 4, not a new elite 4 like every other region has.
Compare it to the next gen after that, Hoenn, and you suddenly had areas covered in volcanic ash, tall "jungle" grass, you can dive under water, and have a whole sandstorm desert to explore, a ghost island, a shipwreck, as well as an active volcano area. But I am a pokemon autist so despite saying all this I do still very much love Johto lmao I just think it's easy to argue it's the weakest region. I also think the starter trio is one of the best ones to this day (the new ones are always so shit).
No. 439570
>>439513Fair enough if that's your opinion but I disagree, and to be a pokemon autist alongside you, I want to try any explain why. Because you need to keep in mind the design intent behind GSC, and that was that they were intended to be the finale to the Pokemon game series - they were designed as a sequel to RB. This is why team rocket are the villains again - it’s set 4 years after the events of RB and they've returned to call back the main series villain, Giovanni. This was well before the concept of different pokemon villainous teams in universe, because Johto and Kanto are narratively connected - just as they are physically connected. That's why you have Kanto as post-game. This is why the Kanto gym leaders have Johto pokemon (if you include them, 9/16 gym leaders use Johto pokemon). This is why you have the protagonist from RB as the hidden final boss of the game. And this is why Johto is not solely the new 100 Pokemon, why Kanto pokemon are found there. The intent was for you to explore both regions to catch them all. They are deliberately familiar in places because they are bordering regions whose stories directly connect to each other, and yet Johto still manages to have a unique identity that showcases environments more inspired by rural Japan, like Azela town, Ruin of Alph, Ecruteak city. I also think the addition of Suicune roaming the overworld in crystal was a genius way of encouraging exploration of the region. Okay sorry for the sperg, clearly I do have a soft spot for Johto.
>The elite 4 is just the same elite 4, not a new elite 4 like every other region has.This is wrong btw - Kanto's league is Lorelei (ice) Bruno (fighting) Agatha (ghost) and Lance (dragon), Johto's league is Will (psychic) Koga (poison) Bruno (I'll give you that one, but he has a much better team this time around), and Karen (dark).
No. 439660
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>>439612well what did porygon have to do IT?
No. 439671
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>>439570>This is why the Kanto gym leaders have Johto pokemon (if you include them, 9/16 gym leaders use Johto pokemon)Sounds ok until you realize they only use 1 each so it's then 9/59 pokemon in total, so like 15% new johto pokemon and 85% the same old kanto pokemon use by the key "bosses" of the game. I don't care what the intent was of the game being a sequel or expansion, I just care that the execution either way was poor. Excitedly going to the first new gym just to battle a pidgey is lame. But he has a second poke- oh it's pidgeotto. Ok but the next gym leader is sure to be better- oh no he opens with metapod.
>This is wrong btwSorry was thinking of how the actual league location is shared and not a unique new place, that the "end goal" of the game is the same. Lance and Bruno are still in both too like you said, so that makes the trainers there feel less unique too imo.
But I'm here to say I have to retract my statement about Johto being the worst because after thinking about it, my new opinion is potentially even more controversial because I think Paldea might actually be the worst region.
Despite being able to go everywhere it feels empty and shallow. Being able to see 3 "routes" ahead of you and that it's all just still grass with 1-2 trees plopped down isn't that fun. No people anywhere in the world that do anything other than just patiently stand in the same spot, never even approaching you. Even though some areas are nice, like the canyon next to Mesagoza was very well executed imo, but most areas still feel so shallow. There's no forest, nothing like quicksand pulling you in or swampy mud or snow to get stuck in, no HMs needed for you to make it through, no little puzzles, no trainers to beat to be able to pick up a hidden item, and you can't even fish! Every area is just a backdrop. You can't enter houses either, there are no gym challenges in the gyms building, the elite 4 was a boring exam. The DLCs saved the game, but Paldea itself is still the most soulless region. We're 9 generations in so they had no excuse this time.
No. 439886
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just found out that japanese people call the practice of matching poke ball designs / entrance animations to pokemon "oshabo" オシャボ (from オシャレボール, "stylish balls"). wish there was a handy name for it in eng
No. 439894
>>439886"ball matching" just doesn't sound right does it
glaceon and vaporeon both look better in a dive ball imo
No. 439897
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>>439886cute!
what's your favorite ball design anyway anons? i gotta go with premier
No. 439898
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https://ballguy.hatenablog.com/found a whole blog dedicated to oshabo
No. 439899
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>>439897Personally I just really like the ones in PLA
No. 439906
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>>439897I've been shiny hunting a Milotic recently and I'm torn about choosing a ball. I'm leaning towards a luxury ball to match its tail and contrast with the lighter colored elements of its design, but I do think a dive ball would look nice too. Or maybe a premier ball? I do like it when ball colors are used more like "accents" rather than strictly matching all their colors
No. 439909
>>439898Finally a blog for my kind of autism
>>439906Luxury ball has a nice contrast with the black color of the ball and the pale yellow of Milotic
>>439897Heal Ball is cute and useful
No. 439913
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>>439897the heal ball, but only this variant with the dark pink, the one with the light pink is kinda ugly
No. 439955
>>439906Personally I've seen too many sweaty "luxury ball only" moids so now I kinda dislike it.
If you're able to, a fast ball would match the yellow and orange tail, but the dive ball typically comes with blue bubbles when you send it out so I really like that one for any aquatic pokemon
No. 440042
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>>439886>entrance animationsLike the ball capsule visual effects in Gen 4?
No. 440052
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>>440042nta but the balls themselves come with different animations when you throw a pokemon out, it's been a thing since like gen 3
No. 440096
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Why are these two retards not popular, unlike train twins?
No. 440097
>>440096Because
look at them, nonna. At least the train twins are kinda endearing in their autism kek
No. 440100
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>>440096they're hideous. the traintards are also kinda ugly but really cute, and their uniforms are cool. plus, ingo and emmet embody two different personality types, while these two ugly sons of bitches act the same.
No. 440102
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sordward could never
No. 440105
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>>440096>"hurrdurr why are these ugly retards unpopular???"you fucking tell us
No. 440108
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i love the artwork on the ex cards in the pocket tcg game, at least we don't need to shell put a fortune unlike the physical ones.
look how cute meowth is
No. 440112
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>>440110your question was already answered hoe
No. 440124
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>>440110maybe if sword and shield twins were suffering from male pattern balding they'd be more popular
No. 440137
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>>440108I pulled this card today! Controversial perhaps, but I love meowth yet hate team rockets meowth
No. 440276
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>>440137meowth is the cutest cat pokemon. it's a shame it got turned into an annoying villain team mascot
No. 440566
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>>440276But the villain team happens to be the best thing about the anime
No. 440588
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>>440566love these three dumbasses like you wouldn't believe
No. 440626
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>>440110I disagree, the train autists are handsome and cute even in their canon designs and they have some delicious uniform moe.
Looking like weirder versions of Raidou Kuzunoha is still looking like Raidou Kuzunoha, aka hot.
No. 440628
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>>440588same, they're more interesting than the protags. Meowth is just too cute
>>440137my fave meowth is the gigantamax one bc he looks like longcat, remonds me of old timey internet
No. 440634
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>fucking Emlan of all people wanted to fuck them
No. 440650
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>>440588>>440589>>440566As a kid I used to hate them but as an adult they're great
No. 440651
>>440566Even as a kid I found team rocket so boring and predictable they're what made me fall off the show fully. They never added anything for me, they just interrupted the plot I actually cared for and wasted all the screen time doing the same thing over and over when that time could have been spent on showing different "new" pokemon and characters. I eventually picked the show back up again as an adult, I could still only really stand team rocket in Alola because there they'd just hang out in the background while running a donut shop kek
It's not like I hate them as characters, if they had shown up like once every 10 episodes I'm sure I'd love them.
No. 440821
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hello!? since when was this here?
No. 441023
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At first there wasn't a doubt in my mind that legends ZA would bring new fun evolutions to old pokemon like the first legends game, until I realized just how much of a Sinnoh feature that really was. Now I'm honestly questioning if there's gonna be a single new evolution at all, I think they'll just be replaced with temporary mega forms instead which I personally find a lot more boring.
No. 441024
>>440634KEEEEK my girl has always had kinda weird taste and I love her for it
Not as bad as Humon drawing Jack Black and Kyle Gass porn, I guess
No. 441026
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I just bought pokemon moon for my 3ds. It's my first pokemon game ever, I'm so excited! Any tips you guys think I should know as a beginner?
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nom nom nom nom nom nom nom nom
No. 441028
>>441026I love SM, legit one of my favorite pokemon games. Just enjoy it! Pokemon is easy enough that you'll be able to figure it all out and have a good time.
Some minor tips though:
STAB - Same Type Attack Bonus. It means if you use for example a fire type pokemon its fire type moves will be 50% stronger.
Stats - check if your pokemon has a higher Attack or Special Attack. If they're about the same you don't have to worry too much, but if one is a lot higher you want to make sure you pick that kind of moves for ot. So Attack = physical movies. Special attack = special moves
Putting a pokemon to sleep first makes it a lot easier to catch
It's possible they already explained this to you in the game, I can't remember lol
No. 441154
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I never realized how slutty the male pogo rocket grunt is. His shirt is so tight you can see his tits and abs outline…
No. 441209
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>>441040Lillie is only annoying if you hate the story and the characters and just want to mindlessly catch and battle. I really like Lillie's story arc and I think her design is cute.
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No. 441231
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No. 441234
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No. 441328
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>>441234>Try to locate info on this mouse since it's so fucking cute>Barely anything comes upAww…
No. 441493
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>Tom screams
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No. 441793
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>>441493>>441735this one is a reference to this meme
No. 441828
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wait Poppy is canon 9 years old, she is one year younger than Ash's age so she actively chose to dress like a toddler for herself wtf
No. 442094
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>RIP Rachael Lillis edition
I just wanted to post an image to acknowledge her passing away. The old series and games will always be close to me even though I don't keep up with the franchise anymore. When I was a kid I imagined myself being a water type trainer like Misty. I also never knew until recently that she was Misty and Jessie, it's really cool she had a range like that.
No. 442273
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post some christmas pokemon art!
No. 442326
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No. 442364
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No. 442367
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>>442273I wish I could experience snow IRL at some point
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>>442386I guess I would then be a ground type trainer irl because I live in a desert
No. 442653
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pokego gave us this absolutely stunning ugly sweater for christmas. i love it
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No. 442769
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Marry Christians everyone!
No. 443006
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No. 443531
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Behold, the most iconic duo in Pokemon!
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No. 443590
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>>443544this will never happen
No. 443721
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No. 443724
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No. 443732
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>>443729worst take that has ever been posted on lolcow. fatchu is peak design
No. 443776
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>>443732Peakachu
Honestly I do enjoy all pikachu designs, but the fat one is just so goofy, and I love the tail. Most of the 3D model ones are hideous though, I wish they didn't define the chin so much, or maybe made it smaller, and the arms are too large.
No. 443778
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>>443544Tsundere anon encouraging more train posting through reverse psychology…
No. 443889
>>443544same, but what can you expect from literal autists kek
>>443729i like both, but i think fat pikachu is overrated
No. 444358
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azelf my love
No. 445214
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>>443724fat pikachu is the sweetest thing
No. 445222
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>>443776this is one of my fave pics of pikachu still. just a ball with legs and ears and a tail.
No. 445280
>>445234i dont even know what that is
>>441231love how quirky this is, new merch is never this fun and whimsical
No. 445339
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>>445234>>445335still not sure if you mean the husbando threads but I just opened one on /vp/ and saw this so… yepp. it's mostly men isn't it
No. 445448
>>445355sounds retarded. move on
>>445353this
No. 445556
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I'm begging DeNA to stop giving Giovanni alts when there are villains that don't even have one.
>>445241What do you mean?
No. 445559
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>>441154>not posting the actual Team Rocket slutLook at those slutty gloves. Peak Pokéboy design.
No. 445564
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>>445556BASED giovanni sucking up all the resources
>>445559he is such a whore. but i really just love all of team rocket.
No. 445572
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>>445564Oh, I love li sakura! It's a shame that she deleted all her cute grunt fanart from Pixiv. I'd dump the art I have here, but I've already posted it all in one of the het ship threads.
>BASED giovanni sucking up all the resourcesLiterally, kek. Considering that he's using Guzzlord to delete other villain team's hideouts and he can absorb all the damage his teammates take. This might be one of the most OP supports in the game so far. Fuck DeNA though, I've had enough of this genwunpandering. The silver lining is that this new subplot might lead to Maxie, Archie and Ghetsis finally getting their long-awaited alts
inb4 it's just their Gen 3 versions and Classic Ghetsis cuz DeNA is too lazy to design new outfits. Ghetsis's and Giovanni's murderous hatred for each other in Pokémon Masters is very cute, by the way. I can't wait for the next part.
No. 445573
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>>445572>Ghetsis's and Giovanni's murderous hatred for each other in Pokémon Masters is very cute, by the way. I can't wait for the next part.NTA but completely agreed, I love their dynamic. This moment was gold.
No. 445741
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happy 2025! choo choo!
No. 445953
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No. 445962
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>>445953these are my most liked how about you nonnas
No. 445968
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>>445953I think Spidops would've fit better as the first bug of Paldea since you can catch Tarountula earlier than Nymble
>>445962here is mine
No. 446006
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>>445339>I just opened one on /vp/ and saw thisYou saw that but not twins, Ghetsis, or Lance? Cherrypicking.
No. 446023
>>446006aw that pic is so cute
nonnie!
No. 446037
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>>445953I can't get into the pseudo legends enough to pick one. I don't like dragons/dragon adjacent body plans at all.
No. 446055
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>>446037based stoutland enjoyer. i love that evo line, and not just because of the anime
No. 446064
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>>446021I post about my husbandos there sometimes. I'm certain most posters there are women.
>>446031Holowear from Pokemon Unite is the closest thing I can think of. It's such a shame that we can't dress up our Pokemon like this in the main games.
>>446046Mimikyu isn't electric type so it doesn't count. Same with Azumarill.
No. 446150
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>>445953>Azumarill>Pikachu adjacentWhat sort of retard made this pic? Where's Pichu?
>>446006I know right? Of course there will be gay moids posting on 4chan (and women can like barashit too, especially outside of LC, but it's taboo to say it). Every husbando thread on 4chan has a mix of men and women and nobody seems to mind. Although I felt tempted in December, I don't post my husbando there because I've gotten too used to husbandoposting with other women only, and I don't want to deal with the retardation of 4channers who like my husbando (some dumbass called him an ojiichan because they don't know the right term is ojisan and that really pissed me off kek). But I wish Ghetsisfag(s) over there a happy 2025 full of new Ghetsis content.
No. 446180
>>446150the chart obviously only has final evos that's why there's raichu instead of pichu and pikachu
azumarill is the final evo of marill which was considered pikachu adjacent in the days of gen 2 (pikablu)
No. 446209
>>446180Pichu was a precursor to the pikaclone trend. It's stupid to put Raichu there as "Pikachu adjacent" and not Pichu. It's also dumb because Pikachu wasn't the mascot of the franchise when both it and Raichu were created, they were just a normal evolutionary line so Raichu was not made due to Pikachu's popularity, unlike all the pikaclones. In any case, it should be Pichu instead of Azumarill.
>>446176Of course I know about that, but it's an entirely western fan-made term for Marill based on a dumbass rumor, not anything official. Marill/Azumarill isn't Pikachu adjacent in any way.
No. 446239
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>>446209idc she's still pikablu to me
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No. 446646
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anyone else hate competitive pokemon players who obsess over 'meta' and stats and simply ignore character design and story, take these videos for example. I'm sure in their super serious battle meta, gen 1 pokemon don't have the exact fraction of stats for challenging other autistic losers, but they are objectively very well-designed, the vast majority of players didn't catch pokemon because of their stats, they caught them because they looked either cute or cool to them
No. 446656
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>>446646Don't mind them, poketubers just want to find something to whine about. It says a lot how that "this fucking sucks actually" meme blew up because it resonated with so many people who grew up listening to youtubers cherrypicking and whining about the most minor things ever.
>but they are objectively very well-designedwoah let's not go that far…
No. 446679
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why was the post replying to
>>446505 about plushies deleted? I need that japanese xitter tag
No. 446717
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>>446646no, i like them, and it's possible to love both things. i love using my shitty weak mons but i also love to battle competitively. also, gen 1 was objectively hilariously broken. i love reading about this stuff, particularly from gen 1-2.
No. 446842
>>446838It's ok to be wrong,
nonny.
No. 446932
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>>446838do u heit mudkipz
No. 446948
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Moids are so dumb when it comes to rumors and fake leakers, even the real leaker discredited some by name and moids still religiously follow them even after hearing that. Just heard a moid get an unlikely post pointed out to him only for him to go "oh, i think sometimes he just puts out some false rumor for shits and giggles" as if that's not a big deal and even a good thing
No. 447446
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>>447438Agreed! I like using my favorite pokemon, cool/cute looking pokemon, and pokemon I get attached to, rather than getting the perfect team made. I never thought I would be attached to the Crobat I raised but she was my GOAT in diamond/pearl
No. 447588
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>>447446Same
nonnie my Crowbat in HG was my strongest pokemon and my baby following me everywhere. That is still one of my most memorable playthroughs.
No. 448198
>>448065Yeah, we're due a trailer and since pokemon day is soonish they might as well wait for that.
Imo the best strategy is to have an anticipated game we all want info on (legends) and then to slap a little teaser on for something new (gen 10, or gen 5 remakes, new spin off) at the end. That keeps fans excited and ensures long time interest.
Next year is the 30th anniversary, meaning it would strategically be best to release games before that so on the big day they can go "look at all these games that you can buy now! And all these events happening in our new and relevant games!" and not just "buy these in half a year please". So they have to release something this year to ensure there are things for fans to do.
No. 448199
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I really wonder what the ZA fashion will be like. Will it be more french inspired or used some old outfits from XY?
I'm forever grieving the loss of the classic shounen protagonist fashion the early gens had, I miss that so much and from looking at OC fanart I know I'm not the only one kek
No. 448203
>>448199i absolutely loved the fashion choices we got in XY, you really had everything from sporty to classy to kawaii. ( i still got some merch from back then with this exact graphic kek).
i hope we get as many clothing chouces in ZA. it was really lacking in the latest games.
No. 448358
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>>448202>I think the fashion itself will really depend on when the game takes placeIt's a modern time setting, we see npcs with moden caps and sneakers in the first trailer
>>448203I love that Serena graphic! XY had the best fashion choices of any game so far, though SM had a decent mix. When thinking about it I think the fashion really has gotten worse each gen since they introduced it, which is really sad. I think the biggest problem is game freak for some reason is afraid of anime protagonists. They refuse to let the player be a character, they make them "realistic" blank slates. You're not allowed to make them look crazy or iconic, they're forcing the player to look like an background NPC while they let all story driven side characters look like the main anime character. But just look at nearly any OC fans make, people love making iconic cool characters and nobody actually wants to be in basic ass t-shirt and jeans!
No. 448381
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i feel like i'm in the minority here but the transition to exclusively 3d graphics is what made me stop actively seeking out new pokemon games. i got alpha sapphire/omega ruby for my 3ds years ago because of the nostalgia blast, but even hearing the difference from the delicious 8bit music to the "better" audio quality during the first cutscene was like wow more does not actually mean better. pokemon colosseum and xd gale of darkness are the only good original 3d games because it utilized an entirely unique character style which worked with how pokemon looked. now, each game contains copy-pasted models which are so unbelievably boring. what was so great about the release of the earlier generation games was that the sprites had amazing character and you were excited to see how they were refreshed, not to mention the OSTs. the franchise would do so well utilizing a 2.5d style, something like octopath traveler 2 picrel, but for some reason the masses are afraid to play pixel games because 3d=new and 2d=old
No. 448850
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my holy grail. tell me yours nonnas
No. 449048
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>>446505I guess you'll be devastated to know that it was a suggested feature for the main games at one point.
No. 449072
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>>449048nta but I'd like a pokemon dress up game and I'm glad that wasn't it because that fucking sucks and looks lame. What idiot at game freak thinks "oh dress up? you mean like putting A CLOWN NOSE and MOUSTACHE on your cute little pokemon?" no bitch we want unite tier outfits for our pokemon. And it's been around for at least a decade in the anime so it's not even hard to grasp the concept
No. 450192
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I'm here to hate on crocalor. There's not a single redeeming quality about this ugly fucker.
It doesn't look cool nor cute. But it's obvious they were aiming at the "ugly funny/charming" with this one, I just think they missed the mark. Examples of pokemon that do the ugly funny/charming right are psyduck, shroomish and appletun.
It's got an ugly ass hunchback. It carries a fucking egg around on its head, which is impractical, stupid and ugly. It's not even a unique concept in any way so I can't even be like "at least we finally got a pokemon based on this".
Crocodile = totodile line, sandile line
Carries egg = chansey line
Mexican inspired = ludicolo, hawlucha
Sings = jigglypuff, meloetta
And all of those pokemon do their concepts better than crocalor. To give a starter this shitty of an evolution should get you fired on the spot.
No. 450198
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i cant believe how retarded skeledirge looks
No. 450200
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"opera conductor dead crocodile with a bird that breathes fire" is so many ideas. it's so stupid. pokemon used to be pocket monsters. a turtle with cannons on its back. a snake made of rocks. a dog that paints with its tail. a duck with a sombrero. what the fuck happened.
No. 450201
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Let her in…
No. 450259
>>450198>>450200I'm glad that someone else thinks that Skeledirge is ugly. It feels like most of the praise people had for it was that it's on four legs and therefore it's supposedly more 'creature-like' despite the fact that it is incredibly over-designed. It just doesn't feel like a wild creature in the same way that say Meganium does. Its' in game model looks off as well, especially the texture of the fire, which makes it feel out of place.
My unpopular opinion is that I don't care if the starters are bipedal and I also don't get why a lot of fans act like a starter's final evo being a quadruped is the be all end all of good pokemon design.
No. 450271
>>450259I'm not the previous anons, I fucking hate skeledirge too! I hate all of the final paldea evos tho, they dropped the ball so hard this gen.
>My unpopular opinion is that I don't care if the starters are bipedal and I also don't get why a lot of fans act like a starter's final evo being a quadruped is the be all end all of good pokemon design.I think you just said it yourself earlier! People want their pokemon to feel like wild animals/creatures, and not like a human in a fursuit. Usually it's not actually about them being bipedal, it's that they look too humanoid. Like charizard is bipedal but it doesn't look humanoid so people don't have a problem with it. I think it started gaining popularity with litten and people saying "please stay on all fours" (because it's a cat), and that's why people ended up latching onto the words bipedal/quadrupedal but what they actually meant was "don't be humanoid".
No. 450324
>>450271True I was fine with Quaxly even though it is two legged (i mean it just looks like a cartoon duck) but it's final form as a festival hoe at rio de janeiro has ruined it forever. The fact that it's attack animation moves its chest feathers and shakes its hips doesn't fucking help.
Speaking of Skeledirge it's final move doesn't make sense to me. It's this four legged lizard and then it stands up to use this fire type move with a microphone?
No. 450367
>>450324Quaquaval is disgusting an I hate it beyond words. I really feel like gen 9 was shitting on the whole concepts of starters, like game freak was mocking fans for liking them so they made them really shit on purpose.
>It's this four legged lizard and then it stands up to use this fire type move with a microphone?This really bothers me too, why can't it just roar normally? It's clashes with the design that it stands up. Extra annoying because it's the one single final evolution of a croc/gator that actually is on the ground and isn't bipedal, the attack would have worked for any of the other ones while skeledirge could have gotten a unique ground based attack
No. 450557
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Do you remember Pokemon Rumble Blast? It's a Pokemon spinoff that came out in 2011 for the 3DS. Many say it sucks but I always liked it. You play as toy-pokemon and if you use Streetpass, you can be in a toy-pokemon store as your Mii.
>play Rumble Blast a lot as a 10 year old
>lose the cartridge like the idiot kid I was
>be 22, kept the old (now decrepit) 3DS and have a new one I got in my late teens
>update my Mii in the old 3DS by giving her my current appearance (important for later)
>get nostalgic and decide to buy the game again on eBay
>boyfriend surprises me with the game because I brought it up to him
>fuck it, guess I now have two cartridges and we'll return the extra one whenever we have the time
>research how to finish Rumble Blast 100% because I enjoy completionism
>find out you need two 3DSes because mythical Pokemon only spawn after a set number of Streetpass encounters
>guess I'm in luck
>cartridge A with new savefile in my new 3DS for me to play, cartridge B in the old 3DS just to activate the Streetpass thing
>try the Streetpass feature, but something odd happens with cartridge B
>of course cartridge B still has the savefile from the person who sold it, which I didn't wipe since I play on cartridge A anyway
>however Streetpass is connected to the console's data
>so cartridge B dug into my old 3DS and used the data I had from my original Rumble Blast from when I was 10 (this doesn't alter the savefile as it only appears in the game's "Streetpass toy store" as opposed to the in-game world)
>this includes my Mii before I updated her
>in other words, when connecting the 3DSes with both games, my Mii in the new 3DS/cartridge A encountered my 10 year old self's Mii, with the edgy nickname I gave her back then and all
>get to see past me's Pokemon because apparently Rumble Blast's Streetpass datas include your Pokemon collection
>get to encounter my old Pokemon in cartridge A (can't collect them but doesn't matter)
I am never wiping that data, ever
No. 450672
>>450663I loved contests more than anything! I had my neighbours to play pokemon with so we eventually figured out how to make good blocks/poffins together and we felt so smart kek
I used to play the same contest over and over until I won so I'd have all ribbons on the same pokemon. Main reason I think BDSP is shit is because they claim to be "true remakes" yet they removed the best feature completely
No. 450791
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>>450557I do remember Rumble Blast, but I never played any of the Rumble games except for Rumble World which was released as a freemium game on the 3DS in 2015. I actually remembered it a few days ago when I modded my 3DS and noticed that I had that game's save data. Out of the three F2P Pokémon games I had on the 3DS, Rumble World was my second favorite after Pokémon Shuffle got too hard to continue playing F2P (kek). Here, you played as your Mii (IIRC), and in addition to getting random people's Miis from StreetPass, your online friend's Miis could also appear as NPCs. I kinda wanna pick it back up again and try to complete it as much as possible.
>so cartridge B dug into my old 3DS and used the data I had from my original Rumble Blast from when I was 10 (this doesn't alter the savefile as it only appears in the game's "Streetpass toy store" as opposed to the in-game world)>this includes my Mii before I updated her>in other words, when connecting the 3DSes with both games, my Mii in the new 3DS/cartridge A encountered my 10 year old self's Mii, with the edgy nickname I gave her back then and allAwww shit, this is so cute. It's awesome that you can preserve your 10 year old self's save data in a way. Do you have a modded 3DS to make a backup of it? I backed up my own data from my Pokémon cartridges and I've never felt more relief, knowing I won't lose it in case the carts die (which they eventually will). I already lost my original save data from when I first played Pokémon on emulator due to not knowing how save states work, and I don't want a repeat of that.
>>450663I adore the contest mechanic. I was stoked to find out they were a thing in RSE even if they didn't work as in the anime (god, imagine if they did!). The Pokéblock minigame was fun in the original games, I'm so pissed at Game Freak for removing it altogether in ORAS. You just had to press A when the blender's arrow lined up with your arrow to make the blender spin as fast as possible. For the berries, you had to choose rare berries that had stronger flavors. You could play this minigame either alone or with other people, but the blender reached higher speeds more easily (and therefore made better Pokéblocks) the more people participated, so, ideally, you'd want four people playing. If you didn't have three friends for this, you could go to Lilycove and blend berries with 3 NPCs.
Another remake change I didn't like about contests was that all contest ranks are unlocked at every contest hall. I liked it more when contest halls in smaller towns ran the lower rank contests, and the bigger cities ran the higher rank ones, it felt more "realistic", or like in the anime where they had to travel to different cities with contest halls to earn enough ribbons, it was more like a journey. I liked traveling from town to town just for that.
They should bring Contests back and make it better. They could've done so much with this mechanic, and it seemed like they really tried at first in RS, with the moves that can be comboed for extra points, but the combos were very few and not all moves had extra effects, so it seems they either didn't have time to polish this mechanic more, or they gave up. And in ORAS they didn't improve the combos, as far as I know (IDK about BDSP since I haven't played it). They could make it so every move can be chained and add more effects, or make it possible to combine moves like in the anime, with flashy and beautiful visual effects and animations. And add a Pokémon dress-up mechanic, since Super Contests in Sinnoh already allow you to put accessories on your Pokémon. And we could also pick our contest outfit which either wouldn't affect our score, or would grant extra points if it matches our Pokémon's outfit. That would be the dream.
Side note: I'm also disappointed at how easy to catch Feebas is in ORAS. I never caught one in RSE but I enjoyed the challenge, plus it made Milotic feel more special. It would've been so fun to see everyone online discuss how to catch Feebas and how hard it is to find in the remakes. It may have been a little bit too hard with the added randomness and whatnot, but they didn't need to remove the difficulty entirely.
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>>438345Here you go.
>>450791Fuck, sorry for the horribly formatted walls of text.
No. 450886
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every skeledirge fan redesign looks better
No. 450889
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No. 450891
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No. 450920
>>450791>Another remake change I didn't like about contests was that all contest ranks are unlocked at every contest hall. I liked it more when contest halls in smaller towns ran the lower rank contests, and the bigger cities ran the higher rank ones, it felt more "realistic"Me too! People always disagree because going to one town is "easier" but that ruins the whole point of it being a journey you go to along your gym journey
What I truly want is a new game focus only on pokemon contests, with all the ideas you listed too. Instead of gym buildings each town should have their own unique stage. Basically you play the journey we've seen May, Dawn and Serena take so it's not like it's a new concept, it's been here for years already
No. 450998
>>450889I quite like this one, the tail is very cute.
I do lile the hatching egg concept from the actual Fuecoco line and would be sad to see it gome but I think there are about 100 better ways it could have been implemented.
No. 451011
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>>450889Loving the lava
>>450920They could've at least made it so you could enter every contest in any venue, but the pokémon you wanted to use needed all the previous ribbons to participate in the Master Rank contest. What the fuck, they didn't need to make things THAT easy.
I would love a spin-off entirely dedicated to contests. It feels like the natural thing to do, if contests aren't gonna give you any extra benefits in a game that is mainly about battling and collecting monsters. Instead of ruining contests for those who loved the mechanic, they could make a whole separate game out of it. I'd try to make it myself, but I fear GF's lawyers' wrath and Nintendo's assassins.
>>450922>It's like for every cool design it guarantees game freak is forced to make theirs worse and even more ridiculous.This
No. 451070
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>>450922I've always thought that GameFreak should have some sort of contest where they pick like 5-10 fan designs that people like the best that they would turn into real Pokemon for their next Pokemon game. Let's just be real, as much as they may not want to admit it, GameFreak's own poke'designs have been very miss as of late. I know that the designs are subjective but i've seen more people disappointed with the newer designs since Sword/Shield vs those who think the newer mons are amazing look. Maybe having a context like that would not only give us actual cooler designs but may even inspire the artists within GameFreak to make good designs again.
I know that more than likely the biggest reason why they would not do this is because of copyright issues like what if the fans who win want to receive royalties for contributing a design but I'm sure there are fans out there who wouldn't care if they got paid so long at least got credited in the credits of the game and/or on websites. I know I wouldn't mind at all as it would just be an honor having a design I made be featured in a game.
No. 451072
>>451070Nah it's a stupid idea if you know anything about copyrights. Makes sense why they keep it restricted to inhouse artists and contractors.
Also they kind of already do this. Pokemon TCG artist contest is soft-gateway to working with other Pokemon projects directly.
No. 451110
>>451070>I've always thought that GameFreak should have some sort of contest where they pick like 5-10 fan designs that people like the best that they would turn into real Pokemon for their next Pokemon game.Artist generally hate contests like that, it's asking people to do work for them for free without pay because "it's just art, it's not REAL work". And royalties wouldn't be an issue because they'd write in in the rules that you give up all rights to your art when you submit. But even then after seeing a game make millions and realizing you didn't get any of it despite your design making it in is eventually going to make you a bit salty. And that fan could then turn out to be a neo nazi or something, and then that's forever on pokemons history.
>GameFreak's own poke'designs have been very miss as of lateI think it's because of
>>450922 they're so afraid of copying what fans have already made that they lean into being "surprising" a much as possible. So rather than safe cool designs they make them ridiculous and weird.
No. 451424
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I saw this post and when I read the first part, my mind immediately jumped to Pokémon. I was so confused by what I was reading until I realized they were talking about the two celebrities. What the fuck is wrong with me?
No. 451462
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hey everyone i'm sorry to ruin your day but panpour/simipour has white eyes. they aren't closed
No. 451474
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>>451462Holy shit, it's true.
>The eyes do not open (they're open in this state) No. 451486
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>>451462Nice try, we already discussed this 2 threads ago
No. 451792
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>>451462Different anon, the yellow circles around Yamper's eyes aren't its scleras so it wasn't looking silly this whole time. Sorry to ruin your day.
It sure did mine's. It just looks cuter that way. No. 451900
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>>451876>I've been so annoyed and disheartened with many of the Pokemon designs in recent generations, there are just so many bad onesI used to feel this way, but recently I looked at what designs from gen 1 I actually truly like and think are good, and not that I'm just used to them/nostalgic. I basically tried to judge them as if they were brand new pokemon. I realized there are a lot of them I really don't care for. Pokemon like weepinbel, koffing, diglett and metapod aren't fun nor interesting to me. I don't mind machamp, but if it came out today I think I'd hate it for being "just a muscular dude in underwear", and I'd roll my eyes over geodude just being a rock with arms.
I still think gen 9 in particular sucks, because I can still confidently say I love all the gen 1 starters, pikachu, vulpix, meowth, all the nidos, the legendaries… there are still enough pokemon I like that I can make some teams and play around. In gen 9 there are less than 6 new pokemon I actually love and get excited for so I can't even have a full team! And not bonding with my starter is a huge thing for me, I'm the kind of person who'd rather die than box my starter so having shitty final evolutions really hurt the game for me. I don't need 150 new pokemon I love, I just need like… a good starter and then 15-20 of them to be suited for my taste and it's a good gen!
No. 452261
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>>452259
Gen 6 had good variety. I don't understand how Gen 9 dropped the ball so hard with their designs because in my opinion, Galar had a fair amount of good ones along with the bad. That was only a generation ago.
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>Looking back at Gen designs
You know that's a fair assessment. It's hard to look past nostalgia (old ass millennial here in my mid 30s kek) and I tried to do the same thing and I kinda see what you mean. Way back in the day I never really cared for Voltorb or Electrode since they're literally anthropomorphic pokeballs. I also wasn't big on Raticate though I like it more now though that's because of fanart depictions that made it look cuter than it does in the games and anime.
I don't mind the Machop line since it still looks inhuman enough though I feel you on Geodude & Dugtrio (I don't mind Diglet), they're actually pretty lame designs lol. But aside from that, I still genuinely like most of the designs in gen 1, I have way more faves here than I do with 5-9.
>In gen 9 there are less than 6 new pokemon I actually love and get excited for so I can't even have a full team
Same here! Gen 9 is about on par with Gen 5 for me personally in the sense that majority of the designs look horrible to the point that I just skipped on the games altogether. Gen 6 was such a neat little revival as I thought more of the Poke designs looked genuinely cool in comparison to gen 5, I actually really liked a lot of the new designs in this gen. Gen 7 was a mixed bag though there were enough designs that I did like that persuaded me to get the game. And then gen 7 comes out and I think most of the Pokemon look ugly and this carried on into the following 2 gens with gen 9 being the worst to the point I just had to nope out of buying it.
>nd not bonding with my starter is a huge thing for me, I'm the kind of person who'd rather die than box my starter so having shitty final evolutions really hurt the game for me.
I feel you on this as well. I tend to hold onto my starters out of tradition and the starters this time around were just not great. Sprigatito was adorable but the final evolution is just lame as hell (so many cool fan design ideas and we got stuck with that…).
>I don't need 150 new pokemon I love, I just need like… a good starter and then 15-20 of them to be suited for my taste and it's a good gen!
Right, that makes sense and I'm the same as well, that's why gen 6 and gen 7 were fine for me because there were a good amount of designs I actually liked that I could see myself working with. I just hope that gen 10 will give us a lot more better designs because gen 9 is just ass (imo) lol.
No. 452267
>>452261Sorry, goofed on the original response but yeah, gen 9 was just such a massive "L". It doesn't help that the plot of the game what with being in school wasn't all that interesting neither and the whole crown gimmick thing was so tacky, I just had to pass on it and I don't feel like I missed anything lol.
I also agree that as much as I didn't care for Galar, it had a decent amount of good designs compared to gen 9.
No. 452283
>>452264>Gen 9 is about on par with Gen 5 for me personally in the sense that majority of the designs look horribleI'm glad someone feels the same! Before gen 9, gen 5 was my least favorite in terms of pokemon designs. I feel like they went in a similar design direction, and the fact that you then literally visit Unova in the DLC kind of cements the idea that they're connected. BW2 are some of the best games though and it has old pokémon in it so you can ignore the gen 5 pokémon. I recommend that one if you ever want to play in Unova (that or any future remakes).
Gen 5 being followed by gens I really love means I have a lot of hope for gen 10, just because one gen sucked doesn't mean that will be all pokémon from now on. Speaking of gen 10, at this point I expect a small gen 10 teaser on pokémon day next month. I know some say it's too early but given that they teased legends Z-A last pokémon day and haven't said a word about it since I don't think they'd see a problem with just giving a tiny hint to get the hype going.
No. 452642
>>452283Likewise, my two friends love the newer games and don't understand why I don't like a lot of the newer Pokemon designs but the difference between me and them is that they came into Pokemon later (One came in during Gen 3, the other came in during Gen 6) so they just don't understand the different design philosophies of the old era vs the new era.
>BW2 having old PokemonThat's good to know, I'll definitely look into it because I have wanted to see what Unova had but was vehemently turned off by the poke-designs so if BW2 gives you way more older Poekmon, I should be good kek.
>Gen 5 being followed by gens I really love means I have a lot of hope for gen 10, just because one gen sucked doesn't mean that will be all pokémon from now on. Yeah same, I think that it goes in cycles now at this point. You have one gen that has a good amount of decent to awesome designs, then the next gen has a less than stellar group of Pokemon and so on. Though it's funny because as someone who's been there since the beginning, I liked Kanto, Johto, and Hoenn all but then didn't like gen 4 though eventually came around to it many years later but it was definitely the starting point of seeing some really weird designs (LickyLicky & Magmortar… kek).
But I don't know if it's because I was a kid during gen 1-3 vs gen 4 when I was in high school by then but I still just can't help but feel that the first 3 gens had legitimately cool designs (ignoring some of the more previously discussed duds).
And yeah I think gen 10 might get announced as well. I'm curious what region it will be based on. I talked with one of my friends and we talked about how they haven't touched Africa yet but that they more than likely would never touch that part of the world because on one hand, Asia isn't typically known to have interest in Africa and 2, they could probably make a mistake and piss off the sjw crowd. Kind of like what happened with Resident Evil 5 with it's controversy lol.
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reminder that it's not just designs, it's style and how earlier gens had pokemon with more "weight"
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>>452651It's not about that, older pokemon gens tried too hard to look like Dragon Quest and there wasn't much variety in the shapes of the eyes.
No. 452828
>>452722Greece huh? That'll be interesting haha. Again hopefully the pokemon designs will be a lot better this time around.
>>452651Oh yeah, I've seen this post before and it kinda makes more sense. Granted the right hand re-designs, the only ones that look good imo are Zorua and Pikpek. I just don't vibe with how a lot of the newer Pokemon look much more rounded to emphasize the cuteness, it kinda does the reverse save for a few token designs Vulpix and Eevee looked cute and their features weren't super exaggerated lol.
No. 452829
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Besides a dress-up game, what other kind of game would you like to see as a spin-off?
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>>451900Gen 1 designs are very much a product of their time. I don't think most of those pokémon were designed to be that unique and different from other RPGs at the time. The "Pokémon design vibe" started after Red and Green were released, I think. Maybe with the anime, maybe with Gen 2. And in Gen 3, they made an active effort to design cooler, more monster-like mons. It was in Gen 4 that I started to notice that some designs felt "off", which is part of why I didn't like Gen 4 that much, and it was my least favorite batch of pokémon until Gen 7 came out. Although Gen 7 has a bunch of designs I REALLY love, like Vikavolt, which might be one of my favorite pokémon of all time. Gen 8 also has a mix of good and bad, some of which, like Corviknight, also became my all-time favorites.
I'm surprised by how much I prefer the aesthetic, art style and designs of Gens 2 and 3, but many of my top 20 favorite pokémon are from Gens 5 and 6. Same with characters. I'm nostalgic for Gen 1 and love its roster and all, but very few of those pokémon have been my all-time favorites or anywhere in my top 50. I honestly think you're being a bit unfair with Gen 5, the point was to create a brand new Dex that mirrored the original 151. With so many pokémon (I think Gen 5 introduced more pokémon than any other generation), of course a bunch of them are going to be meh or straight up shit, which in retrospect is also true for Gen 1's roster. Most of them weren't going to be hits with every player, but at least it's got a lot of variety. I got into pokémon pretty early, when the Gen 1 anime was airing in my country (first game was Ruby, Gen 4 anime was airing) and I fucking loved the BW roster like you wouldn't believe, so I guess it also depends on the person and how attached you are to the original 151.
At this point, I think we can all agree that Gen 9 is just the worst, lmao.
>>452651 is right, maybe if modern pokémon were drawn with more "realistic" proportions and more detail, they'd feel "like pokémon" again. For example, Rookidee could be one of my favorites (given it literally has all my favorite colors in its design and is based on my favorite bird), but its oversized eyes and extremely simplified spherical shape are too off-putting to me. Yes, it's cute, but it's not "pokémon" enough for me. I wish they'd keep animal-based pokémon somewhat close to their source of inspiration instead of oversimplifying and overstylizing. Crabrawler in anon's pic looks so fucking cool using the old style. (Though I agree with
>>452727, the person who drew the examples on the right did a poor job with most of them.)
>>452722Pasio was going to be based on Italy, until they realized that a new mainline Pokémon region might need that. So Pasio isn't "Pokémon world's Italy" anymore.
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>>452829I would kill for an animal crossing-like game but with pokemon, and just a touch more story/complex gameplay than AC has! And I'd want each pokemon species to have 2 factors:
>one is looks, they can look slightly different than standard. Like tuft of hair, droopy ears, some fur pattern, off-colored without being shiny (shiny also exits but is super rare)>next is personality, which is based on natures. So 25 in total iirc. It changes their dialogue and how they act, each also having their own animation "body language" (timid one acting shy, jolly has a big laugh)Each villager is generated with a random mix of the two factors. So you can get a naive pink-cheeks pikachu or a bold pikachu with a tuft of hair.
Oh and they're all first stage pokemon when you get them, you have to choose to encourage them to evolve if you want later stages! If they need an item to evolve you have to craft/buy it and gift it to them. Regional form pokemon are locked in DLC areas.
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>>452905>I honestly think you're being a bit unfair with Gen 5, the point was to create a brand new Dex that mirrored the original 151. But that's what 's so annoying! They didn't even become equal to the pokemon they were copying, but were just worse versions of them. The timburr line is an uglier version of the machop line, sawk and throh are worse than the hitmons, the pidove line is just a way less cool pidgey line, poliwhirl/wrath are pretty cute and cool while palpitoad and seismitoad gives me the ick because they have giant warts on their head. They're unoriginal copies AND bad!
But yeah I still hate gen 9 more.
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No. 453248
>>452905>I honestly think you're being a bit unfair with Gen 5, the point was to create a brand new Dex that mirrored the original 151. With so many pokémon (I think Gen 5 introduced more pokémon than any other generation), of course a bunch of them are going to be meh or straight up shit, which in retrospect is also true for Gen 1's roster.NTAYRT but I'm sorry, as someone who didn't like Gen 5 Pokemon designs back when BW first came out and still feel the same 15+ years later, I just can't lie about my thoughts on the designs and unfortunately, at least in my eyes, most of them looked like shit. Yeah Gen 1 had some duds but the difference for a lot of us is that gen 5 just had way more designs that looked bad compared to gen 1 that at most, only had a few. I can see that gen 5 had ideas for sure and that was cool but they just went way too much into the unconventional territory and it ended up hurting so many of the designs.
It's nice to hear there are people out there who do like gen 5 designs even if I personally don't see the appeal, just shows that with a long running franchise like Pokemon, you'll find all kinds of perspectives and likes/dislikes lol.
No. 453256
>>453248Don't worry, I'm not saying you have to like them, just that maybe the idea that Gen 5's pokémon designs are just "shit" might be biased. I'm willing to accept that they, on average, might be inferior to Gen 1, but they're nowhere near Gen 9 levels of bad. I think those who blindly shit on the entirety of the Gen 5 roster are overstating how "bad" the designs truly are.
And that's without factoring in that a lot of it comes down to personal preference (yes, people are allowed to like or dislike a design for their own personal reasons).
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>>453171i friggin love abomasnow
No. 453413
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Does anybody else find this line just gross… Cubchoo is just passably cute but Beartic's frozen spit beard icks me out.
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>>453413it makes me angry because it could have been great. cubchoo is pretty cute even with the snot, but beartic looks like shit even without the ice spit beard and the weird crotch fluff, there's something annoying about the low-effort triangle design it has. it looks like some shitty throwaway mario enemy. a polar bear should look powerful and intimidating.
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maybe beartic will get a cool evolution like ursaring did. i fucking love ursaluna, especially bloodmoon ursaluna, it looks like a big powerful bear and not a dumb two-legged idiot.
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I love Whimsicott!
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>>452955In what way is Roggenrola a copy of Graveler? One is a floating grey rock with a human face and arms, other is a colorful round rock with little legs, no face aside from a big eye and a little stem that kinda makes it look like a berry. The only similarity is that they're both round, rock type and obviously made of rock?
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>>453209>I prefer Roggenrola to Geodude, sorry.ayrt, that's another thing! I don't like geodude, so a copy of geodude isn't fun to me no matter what it is. Instead of making a new unique pokemon they were dragged down by the idea that they had to copy gen 1. I can still appreciate what they tried to do with copying the first 151, I just think they failed to execute it in a good way.
Speaking of roggenrola, it freaks me out because that's not an eye - it's an ear. It's a walking rock ear. Maybe it's meant to be the ears to nosepass nose. Boldore also has ears in it's face and no eyes, only gigalith actually has eyes.
>>453248>as someone who didn't like Gen 5 Pokemon designs back when BW first came out and still feel the same 15+ years later, I just can't lie about my thoughts on the designs and unfortunately, at least in my eyes, most of them looked like shit. Yeah this. When gen 4 came out I didn't care for some of them, but over time I've come to appreciate more of them - I really like the fossil dinos, vespiquen is cool, gastrodon is fun and playing PMD made me love chatot. The gen 5 pokemon I disliked back then still suck to me, they have not grown on me. Something about the gen 5 designs is a set it stone quality, either you like them or you don't.
But can't finish a post without saying it: gen 9 is still worse!
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>>453513I'm predicting that the legendries of a Greek region would have nothing to do with Greece considering the the fact that that literally happened before.
Xerneas, Yveltal, and Zygarde were inspired by things that have absolutely nothing to do with France.
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>>453422I think the school idea is brilliant, but they fumbled it because there's little to no focus on it while they act like it's a big deal.
Make cuter uniforms. There are NPCs with school uniforms in every mainline game and they look like the normal type of sailor uniform, just make it match those instead of giving us orange striped pants or a bright yellow vest.
First off you should have gotten your first pokemon at the school in a ceremony with everyone else, make it a big deal for new trainers. I know some people hate "tutorial" parts of the game but I really think having a few set missions/"lessons" at the school at the start would have been immersive and fun and let you bond with your first pokemon and your "rivals".
The school should have been a proper 3D space and not just set-camera rooms with loading screens in between. There should be wild pokemon to catch at the schoolground, it should be a proper area! You're quickly free to leave and explore the world BUT there are also students with optional quests. Someone is hearing strange noises near classroom 5B at night… and if you go there at night you find a ghost type pokemon you can catch. The quests unlock new parts and lore of the school. Maybe a teacher tests you before you're allowed into a certain area with new pokemon in it, or a student of the gardening club will let you into the garden if you do their quest first. And you unlock more stuff after you've earned more badges.
I also think there should be fun weekly/monthly events like a school fair or school battle tournaments so you keep going back to it as a central hub of fun.
No. 453599
>>453565Yeah the legendaries are often taken from other places mythology instead for some reason.
Hoenn/South Japan had jewish golems
Sinnoh/North Japan arguably had christian mythology (god/devil in arceus and giratina)
Hisui/North Japan had greek horse legendaries
Kalos/France had norse mythology legendaries
Paldea/Spain had chinese mythology legendaries
But at least Alola got some hawaiian legendaries!
No. 453642
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>>453598i would really like more "focused" and "themed" pokemon games in this style. PLA was incredible for being semi-open world but also having a theme that was totally different from the typical mainline games. they took a risk and it paid off. imagine trying to navigate pokemon as a busy worker in the city, or a boat captain, or even a game where you become a gym leader and can build your own gym from the ground up. just something more creative.
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>>453642I want a game in which you're a fisherman/diver/marine-something where you're limited to watery pokemon and just dive and swim around under the ocean with your water type pals. You'd also get wingull and sandygast and other beachy pokemon. Idk what exactly the point would be, maybe you're a marine biologist who has to slowly restore different water areas by exploring and solving environmental issues and saving injured pokemon.
No. 454056
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Post pokemon whose concepts you love but designs you hate
No. 454058
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>>454056okay, these pokemon are based off one of my favorite things ever as a paleo nerd, but i FUCKING hate their designs because it implies they're suffering. and YOU put it together. it's your fault you made this frankenstein pokemon that can't comfortably exist. it's some deformed, surgically-altered abomination. i truly love the concept because more people need to know about the wackiness of old paleontology, but i despise these things.
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>>454058i wish instead that they were displayed in a museum as recreations in their messed-up forms but you, the intelligent person, learn about the mistakes of old paleontologists and put them together properly. i always love going to the museum in pewter city even if there's no items or anything to gain in it (besides the old amber later), it was so quaint and nice.
No. 454080
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>>454056a psychedelic art inspired pokemon design sounds cool on paper but I hate how it was executed with bruxish, I wish it had an evolution to improve it
No. 454091
>>454058>>454061I love ALL other fossil pokemon, but hate the ones in galar. I really hate how they always go for goofy over cool these days… they could have such cool fucking pokemon but no, they had to make them tortured abominations.
>i wish instead that they were displayed in a museum as recreations in their messed-up forms but you, the intelligent person, learn about the mistakes of old paleontologists and put them together properly.God yes, that would have been so much fun. They could have done it like in SV where there are false drawings as a mix of the 3 legendary beasts and you don't learn the true form until you see them in game.
>>454080It's fugly, but there's something about it I like. I think maybe I just like it being highly feminine coded while 0 people sexualize it, like she beat the coom system.
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>>454091and why do they have a pokedex entry? the pokedex messes up when it can't identify a known pokemon in the system, so why the fuck do these surgically-altered freaks have dex entries as if they're real species? did the pokedex get taken over by AI?
No. 454200
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Has anybody else read Kabigon no Yume Gourmet?
I love the author's other work Drifting Dragons, which is full of delicious food, and was expecting a manga full of snorlax cutely enjoying tasty eats. But instead it's 100% snorlax eating parts of other pokemon (quirky, but not a crime) and the food isn't even good. Like the first chapter was muk slime on rice kek
No. 454304
>>454061Velozolt would be so cute.
>>454094Bravo Game Freak
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what are some unnamed locations or landmarks you like in the games? i love the house in the woods at lake of rage with all my heart.
No. 454492
>>454484Same here but with the house before snowpoint city, thanks to the snow it felt even cozier. I also liked the two beds at the Galactic Team base meant for grunts to rest in. I guess it's because they're useless assets that you see all the time, so having one that actually works/has a purpose makes it a bit more special and gives a sense of the world being actually lived it.
DPP aside, I loved travelling in the SS Anne (was that its name?) as well, what a shame the train they added in HGSS wasn't playable.
No. 454661
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hey nonnies! i need help deciding on either replaying gen 3(FRLG, EMERALD) or gen 4(HGSS, PLATINUM) first. i am going to be doing pretty much everything i can in these games, shiny hunt starters, ev training/breeding, completing the pokedex, battle frontier, etc etc.
i can't pick which one to start with first, after gen3 and 4 i will probably start gen 5 after.
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No. 455566
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i love marshtomp. look how happy he is
No. 455621
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every now and then i like to browse the #ポケモンfit tag on twitter and look at plushies being brought along on trips and dinners, and being dressed up, and just being loved.
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Imagine the next game is set in two regions, similar to GS letting you travel back to Kanto. Which 2 regions would you pick and why?
Doesn't have to make geographical sense, and the story and battle gimmicks etc would be new and have whatever modern updates exist in those areas
No. 456086
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i love this stupid catfish that has its own initial on its head
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No. 456446
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I'm so happy Wooper and Quagsire are so popular in Japan. Like I've seen YouTube channels with tutorials about how to wash Wooper and Quagsire' plushies and Japanese girls/women take their plushies out and do cute things. I'm such a fan of that content.
No. 456590
>>456532nta I think in that case it would be a pixel game and a throwback to all old regions, not open world or set like a modern game.
>>456533you took that post way too literally kek
No. 456847
>>455866Tbh japnese culture IS the cringe culture, most of these people keep their weeb endeavors private or in spaces where is normal to be like that (cons, themed cafes, concerts, etc). I follow a girl who even keeps her love for a ship private from her family. I have heard France is way closer to the weeb/autism freedom land we got on our heads kek.
That said, Pokemon Fit are very small and no one in will notice/care if an stranger takes it out for a bit to take a photo of it, I carry my nuis and fits everywhere and people either dgaf or actually complimented it.
No. 456851
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>>456847I think in any at least relatively modern country if you clearly set up a plush for a fun photo people really don't care, especially in social media times. At most they think "that's a bit funny" and keep walking. And if anyone seeming rude asks about it you can always lie and say "it's for my daughter/little sister/friend's kid" and you're off the hook. Generally people who find it cringe aren't people you'd vibe with anyway, I was walking with a friend of a friend and he said it was super embarrassing and cringe behavior of 2 guys we saw taking a photo in front of a movie poster-wall. It was quite literally made for people to take photos at! I really don't get why he found it so cringe, I think he's just a boring person.
No. 456855
>>455621I think it's cute how there really is a fan for
every Pokémon, even the unpopular ones who look ugly/weird.
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>>456851i have a friend like this who also gets super embarrassed of like anything people do in public and she's just insecure i think
No. 459166
>>459119alright calm down karen
>>459110I love stupid NPCs like that, I wonder how many things are silly inside jokes by game freak
No. 459209
>>459176>>459166People are publicly mocked for "less" than bringing plushies outside on a regular basis. When you see tweets and tiktok videos with several dozens of thousands of views of random people filming others with their faces in plain sight with stupid captions like "omg I'm in the airport and this woman added her own mayonnaise in the sandwich she just bought lmao" or "omg this girl at the gym must be arguing with her boyfriend look at all her replies on her phone's screen lol I'm like right behind her btw" or "omg this old man is eating alone in this restaurant it's so sad it made me cry in front of everyone" it's easy to imagine it could also happen to you because you had the audacity of wanting to take cute pictures of your pokemon plushies next to your Starbucks order. I've seen these exact three cases by the way, I'm not inventing them, yes the lady in the airport with her own mayonnaise bottle in her handbag exists.
>I highly doubt any anons ITT are that badI doubt it too, I'm just explaining why anon is unfortunately wrong when she expects people from a "relatively modern country" to know how to behave. Some people will care, point and laugh.
No. 459244
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>>459119Honestly you just seem overly paranoid and boring af to hang around because you're afraid that a potential child online might call you cringe. You think having a picture taken of you with a plush like
>>455621 is sooo terribly cringe that you'd get mocked and bullied by millions of people online and it would reach your entire irl community? You think people give THAT much of a fuck about YOU doing something boring and mundane like that? And why the fuck would you be so sensitive that you even care that a stranger called you cringe in the first place? Your life is bleak, the plush autists are having better lives than you.
No. 459262
>>459244I don't think it's cringe, I follow a lot of accounts of girls posting this kind of pictures on twitter because I think it's cute but normies do find it cringe.
>You think people give THAT much of a fuck about YOU doing something boring and mundane like that? I would have agreed with you if it weren't for a few men once running to me, jumping right in front of me to block my path and to take a close up picture of my face in particular before I could avoid them and then running away as fast as possible because I was waking from one store to another like almost everyone else there while yelling weird things to each other. It was pretty disturbing. Good for you if this kind of things never happened to you but I'm not the only paranoid one here because these very same Japanese pokemon fans will often edit their pictures to add stickers on their hands or nails, or make their hands blurry so people who know them irl won't recognize them based on their nail art. I don't feel like describing more anecdotes involving people I know irl getting in some trouble because they got caught on camera doing normal things and their own relatives or irl acquaintances saw thatto prove you're wrong, that would be too long and off topic.
No. 460900
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I hate pointless gender differences like this. Go ahead and try to guess what the difference is between these two without looking it up, and it’s not the size difference.
No. 460909
>>460900Cause I need an answer stat
>Pre googleArmband placement? One of them's armband is a bit higher than other
>Post Google>"The white markings are slightly higher up on the female Croagunk than the male. It has three fingers and toes, most of which are black. The only digits that are not black are its center fingers, which are orange instead."I was kinda right? I do think it's useless as well though.
No. 460920
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>>460900I like how most Pokemon gender differences are minor when we could have gotten retarded female versions that look like picrel
No. 460938
>>460920I'm forever pissed off they gave pikachu a female version because it makes EVERY single pikachu up to that point retroactively male. Every toy, card, plush, artwork etc now depicts a male pikachu.
But it pissed me off even more when they then did it again to fucking eevee, post the let's go games. Now every eevee I ever saw in my childhood was male.
No. 461028
File: 1739740904695.png (698.15 KB, 1280x650, 0668Pyroar_Male_and_Female.png)
>>460920i also prefer the small differences to that retarded shit but i guess it feels pointless, like nobody would ever notice that croagunk thing. i like the ones that make sense
No. 461038
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I'd like differences but not so much tied to human fem/masc types. Adding eyelashes and skirts like
>>460920 because that equals girl is dumb as shit. Give them some gender differences like pic rel that you wouldn't know unless you already knew. I like this
>>461028 because it sorta tires into real lions.
No. 461081
>>461039Generally male is always treated as the default by males, while females get heart shaped tails or lipstick and shit like that.
Depending on how you look at it you could maybe argue magikarp was female before because the pixel sprites didn't have yellow and thus looked white in-game, but it was still yellow everywhere else and that was the "intended" color. There could be couple more cases like that, but basically no.
No. 461099
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>>461039a few. here are the female mons that were default before the change. most are default male and the female variant is usually simple like "smaller horns" or something
No. 462788
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The Pokemon Fit hashtag has upgraded (?), there's a trending hashtag in JP now where people share their partner/favorite pokemon and it's so wholesome, now we got the lore behind the pics.
https://x.com/hashtag/あなたの相棒ポケモンはどこから No. 462801
>>462795I got the opossite problem, my 2 favorite pokemon's plushes are either wonky or look a bit creppy, so I'm left with no little guy to carry around haha.
Last year I ended up ordering a Cinccino plush though, had one on my original White savefile and got attached to it (plus her design is pretty and the colors are perfect for pale #aesthetic photos)
No. 462886
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>>462795ugh i only recently finished selling off a collection of pokemon plush i had for a decade. i had so many. i cut it down to just 3 of my absolute favorites, no more. it was really hard to downsize but i'm glad i did.
No. 462889
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I only have one Pokémon plush but it's my favorite. Mimikyu dethroned Bulbasaur after 20 years of #1 in the heart, #1 in the dex
No. 463480
>>462886I could never, i'm a proper autist and find collecting too much fun to the point I'm jealous of the girl in the pic you posted kek
I have personal collecting rules though: I may only buy what I can display. If it gets shoved in the back behind 20 other things (like hers) so you can't see it there's no point in having it.
That excludes seasonal themed items, which have a key display spot that gets rotated bi-monthly or so to match the current season/holiday.
I don't do repeats of the same items (unless it's a gift from someone) and I only buy multiples of my top favorite pokemon.
No. 463808
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A Tweet reminded me of Corocoro leaks and I still want these two to be real, I got so dissapointed when they turned out to be fake… The worm even looks close enough to a Vivillon pre-evolution, the artist nailed it.
In general I miss when we had to rely on magazine and trailers, who remembers when they showed Trevenant for a split of second before a movie at the theater and everyone rushed to draw it in complete darkness? Some of the attemps were so funny…
There are some gen 4-5 pokemon I still call by their japanese name too since we called them that or months until we got the official ENG reveal, sad GF homogenized news.
No. 463835
>>463808>sad GF homogenized newsWith the current leaker culture I'm glad they did. It's annoying seeing smug dickheads get famous for "leaking" fake shit all the time as it is. Now that leakers can earn real fame and money for making fakes it's not as fun as when people did it just for fun to a smallish community. I also appreciate not having to look up obscure japanese magazines, staying up at 3am to see some pokemon variety show based on a rumor that they'll "show new games" etc.
It also used to be so fucking annoying having to wait half a year to get English "news" and them acting like we hadn't seen it all already.
I also really like the interesting reveals they've done in recent years. Like the wiglett fake documentary video, the 24h forest live video, the mysterious chest leading up to gimmighoul, hisuian zoroark trailers… I think this is way more fun than a blurry photo someone took of a magazine.
No. 463865
>>463835>It's annoying seeing smug dickheads get famous for "leaking" fake shit all the time as it is. Now that leakers can earn real fame and money for making fakes it's not as fun as when people did it just for fun to a smallish community.I feel simultaneous news is what made these people flourish in the first place, now all leaks are 4chan greentext, which then turned into actual accounts of leakers. Before that, we mostly had bad photoshops of magazines done by randos since that were our first source of news, but now that GF releases them digitally worldwide, magazines aren't as credible so people just say stuff on the internet and call it a day. (…now that I wrote it out, I think my reasoning doesn't make sense KEK But as we saw with the 2 newest gens, having homogenized news didn't stop those leakers, I actually barely saw them until SWSH)
I agree with you on the special promo stuff GF has been doing though, these are fun.
No. 463894
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>>463480that was my big thing, the displaying. i had them on an ikea shelf and i needed more room for books instead of my plushes kek. i also had other stuff i wanted to display. i somewhat miss my whole collection but i'm glad i downsized. i'm also in awe of this girl's collection but it kinda looks like a pokemon store more than a cozy collection…
No. 463985
>>463894That girl posts a lot and is on some level an influencer so in my mind it's "justified" because she constantly gets content out of those random plushies. I also wouldn't mind having a wall like this (well maybe a tiny bit less cluttered!) in a small cozy small "storage" room (with like a gaming sofa in it too) and having a rotating display at a more central location in the house. I get that you can't place the large plushies at the front because they'd cover the small ones, but it's so sad to me how they're often the nicest plushies but they get shoved down the back so you can't see them at all. You can see one large manaphy eye back there!
If anyone knows of nice merch display hacks or inspo I'm all ears and eyes! Doesn't have to be pokemon as long as it can be applied to pokemon items too. I'm sure there has to be some Japanese weebs who have figured it out but I don't speak Japanese so I don't know what tags I'd have to look up.
No. 464461
File: 1740665587759.jpg (179.04 KB, 1047x583, 23.jpg)
rip pokemon showdown
No. 464466
File: 1740666230534.jpg (30.3 KB, 390x165, GkYcS9QXgAA6zzZ.jpg)
>>464455I would say that was disappointing but tbh I had my expectations low enough to where I don't feel one way or another
No. 464467
File: 1740666327873.png (1.75 MB, 2220x1525, AZ.png)
Officially takes place after X and Y
No. 464472
File: 1740666734728.png (1.01 MB, 1605x903, exclusive.png)
Love interests? The last time this happened was BW2 with Curtis and Yancy.
No. 464475
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>>464472I wonder if they are twins
No. 464476
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AZ looks pretty cool tbdesu
No. 464496
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>>464477>>464486wait they ARE the player characters but only with a different hair color
No. 464497
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>>464496no wonder they are gender locked
No. 464502
File: 1740672680742.jpg (212.77 KB, 1427x1941, GMZwIoCawAAOKxw.jpg)
>>464496>>464497>rival doesn't get to wear a hatkalos moment
No. 464515
File: 1740676075178.jpeg (299.17 KB, 2161x2105, 12.jpeg)
>chikorita
>totodile
>…
>tepig
No. 464518
File: 1740676828110.jpg (11.56 MB, 8192x5792, a8678c58aea10184a59147029296b2…)
Hopefully every building and alleyway is explorable because this looks a bit small
>>464517They are already trying to cancel GF for homophobia on xitter kek
No. 464520
>>464505I've always wanted a pokemon game in which I can be a trainer in a big city so to me it looks great. The new battle mechanics looking more like the anime is so freaking exciting, it's what I've always wished for. I loved PLA but it bothered me how empty it was. You can't do much with lore when it's just ground and trees, people being all over will help a lot with making it feel like a real lived in world.
>>464496>protag is wearing a white t-shirt and jeansBleak. But we have customization these days so it will be fine. I'm annoyed they keep treating the modern protags as interchangeable and not like individual characters though. Serena and Calem look great as a pair, while these 2 are automatically twins.
No. 464521
>>464518They've been trying to cancel game freak for retarded reasons for years, while their games just keep getting better and more popular. Again, if wokies can't cancel Harry Potter from evil
terf queen JKR (who even normies have bought into hating) then how the fuck are they gonna cancel the biggest franchise on earth kek
No. 464524
File: 1740677673993.mp4 (611.62 KB, 720x738, 5M1nHG0hhevZaWVG.mp4)
>>464515There is no freaking way it was not because of the leak. He's getting the Porygon treatment.
No. 464528
>>464515Am I the only who thinks this makes sense?
Gen 1 and 3, already have megas.
Gen 2, cyndaquil was already in legends arceus
Gen 4, all already recently used in legends AND bdsp
Gen 5, oshawott was in legends arecus
Gen 6, will be in the game just like in legends arceus
Gen 7, Rowlet was in legends arceus
Gen 8, all have gmax forms so are likely less prioritzed to get new forms/megas
Gen 9, too new and therefore less exciting, and risky to give new forms while they're not fully established yet
Leaving us with:
Gen 2: totodile and chikorita
Gen 5: snivy and tepig
Gen 7: popplio and litten
And giving the oldest (arguably most popular) some love seems logical AND they got to surprise fans by having a mix nobody predicted which is hilarious to watch as fake leakers sweat and cry in shame.
No. 464540
>>464524Wait what about Porygon?
>>464538France is fairly diverse considering it's proximity and historical ties to Northern Africa/the various Islamic nations there (who were themselves fairly diverse… when you factored in all the slaves they took from the rest of Africa).
No. 464541
>>464539Do you mean the video? The protagonists look like older versions of Ethan and Lyra, and two of the starters are Johto starters.
Some people were predicting another game set in Johto around this time because the last time it was revisited was back in 2009.
No. 464555
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>>464538They are in the capital mostly.
>>464540
>proximity and historical ties to Northern Africa
I'm moroccan. we are not black
>Islamic nations there (who were themselves fairly diverse… when you factored in all the slaves they took from the rest of Africa)
there are almost no native black people in algeria and tunisia. we have them (not counting recent migrants) here in morocco, but they are still a small minority mostly in marrakesh
sorry but I get annoyed when foreigners talk about us like we're congolese just because we inhabit the southern coast of the mediterranean No. 464566
>>464520AYRT I was actually really looking forward to this. The city concept isn't the issue for me, I've gone from big wild environment to single city exploration in other games before (Ys IX is my favorite Ys game) and loved it. I just think the execution doesn't look interesting.
I'll have to wait and see more, though. Hopefully the environments and methods of exploration will be far more interesting than what was shown. It feels very poorly though out to me right now.
No. 464573
>>464541>Do you mean the video?what does the trio with tepig circled have to do with some alleged leaker and porygon?
>>464545>They look so American to me. Even their asshats look like cowboy hats.In most games you're not from the region you play in so they could literally be unovan/american
No. 464574
File: 1740682343336.png (1.99 MB, 2894x4093, Jett.png)
This woman reminds me a bit of Palermo from the XY anime, the former Kalos Queen.
No. 464580
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hex maniac is back… not sure how I feel about this redesign
No. 464582
>>464496I'm gonna fucking cry if I have to play as these clowns and we run into Calem/Serena, the best protags, who used to be "me" in Kalos. I'd never wear that ugly ass bright green jacket.
IDC if this sounds retarded but I'm happy the female is both visibly older and that making her undoubtedly female. They look nearly identical in Paldea. And the fact that they now have a different male and a female design again makes me hope so badly they don't just offer unisex options (meaning no female only clothes) so that we can wear skirts and dresses again. I guess their issue would be pervs taking upskirt screenshots but literally just give them safety shorts under or black the whole area out and the problem is solved
No. 464583
>>464580It's not a "redesign" ya girlie just bought another outfit!
>>464579>As with SV the characters look so much better in 2dTrue. 3D is fine in the over-world, just use the 2D images for character speech bubbles etc and we're all good
No. 464595
File: 1740684243582.jpg (470.2 KB, 1920x1080, p03_04-2x.jpg)
what do we think of the textures?
No. 464597
File: 1740684383455.jpg (280.92 KB, 1920x1080, p04_04-2x.jpg)
another screenshot, I'm not used to pokemon looking like this
No. 464599
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>>464595>>464597Acceptable at most.
No. 464613
File: 1740685973018.jpg (1.51 MB, 3071x2598, calemserena.jpg)
These two better show up in the game. I mean that has to happen because you catch Xerneas/Yveltal in X and Y.
No. 464623
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>>464584I mean you won't even get to see her like this if you play as a girl anyway.
I actually would much prefer her to look like this as the protagonist.
No. 464625
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>>464592yes but pokemon ALWAYS does this. the female trainers always skirts or short shorts or tanktops showing as much skin as possible and the males have none, ever, except maybe their forearms or calves.
No. 464627
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this one is especially stupid. cold environment, gotta cover up! need a beanie and a scarf but nope still need to show off my bare legs
No. 464632
>>464580She needs a bonnet.
>>464584New rival girl is going to get the Hilda treatment.
No. 464646
>>464625>skirts or short shortsboys just don’t wear them. I don’t know why but that’s just how things are.
this is like going to a muslim country and being shocked that men don’t wear the hijab too. the only thing different about the hijab is that lots of girls are forced to wear it, while any girl that wears short shorts does so willingly.
I feel like the fact that boys don’t wear skirt and short shorts is the whole point. they make the fem protagonists stand out as female the same way women’s bathroom signs do.
>>464627yeah this was stupid
No. 464648
>>464646i don't see men wearing black tights under their shorts here, like all the male protags do.
also, the male characters being covered up entirely implies it's a colder climate, so why are the girls wearing sweaters with skirts showing their bare legs? not even leggings? i have literally never seen a girl wearing a skirt in cold weather irl here.
No. 464669
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hilda and hilbert are another dumb pairing. i mean, i actually like hilda's design a lot, but it looks super weird next to hilbert. either hilda is wildly underdressed and freezing to show off her skin or hilbert is a weirdo unfashionable freak who wears multiple layers when it's hot. either way it's bad.
No. 464673
File: 1740694338826.webm (15.63 MB, 480x360, Ash Fukkireta.webm)
thought you guys would remember this, especially the Ashnonnies.
happy Pokémon Day I love you all
No. 464676
>>464638I feel like women have been rightly pandered to with this gen. So many cute pokeboys while girl designs have been left in the dust in comparison to previous gens. Now we are rightly getting cool girl designs that pander to us too instead of braindead moids.
The decade of the female pokefan is here!
I wish i knew why the change happened. did they realize that we make the most art and buy the most merch? Did they realize how fucking cute kieran is? someone enlighten me.
No. 464678
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>>464676right like i find it hard to believe that the girl designs aren't supposed to be sexualized. it's the kid-friendly version of titty armor. nice to see a change where the girl is covered up, aside from that stupid alt design where the guy gets to wear huge baggy clothes (are some of you really arguing that women can't wear baggy clothes? billie eilish????)
No. 464679
File: 1740694982543.jpg (91.19 KB, 628x685, chibis.jpg)
>>464678>billie eilish????looks like shit
No. 464680
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>>464679pickme or moid get out
(infighting) No. 464683
>>464676>I feel like women have been rightly pandered to with this gen.I feel the opposite, designs have gone so shit and ugly in the last gen
>Now we are rightly getting cool girl designs that pander to us too instead of braindead moids.Where? WHERE??? They look absolute shit
No. 464690
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>>464674why doesn't your brother show off his delicious thighs more?
No. 464692
>>464669It's almost like they were doing opposites on purpose for the black and white region.
I don't get why they'd have to match to begin with when the regions typically have both warm deserts and snowy mountains. I don't care if the fantasy game outfit of my character is optimal for the climate as long as I get to look cute. No moid is around when I play my solo player adventure, and most guys still pick the male character for themselves. Hilda was tiny pixels on a screen, it really isn't THAT scandalous imo. Pokemon have some of the tamest least "sexy" designs in all Japanese media anyway
No. 464696
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>>464686>are you a lady who prefers coomer pander designs?No, but you are apparently overly sensitive and think a girl showing her legs is coomer hentai porn for some reason. Like you actually look at picrel and go "omg coomer pandering"? Wild.
No. 464698
File: 1740695807781.png (59.6 KB, 162x355, XY_Schoolgirl.png)
>>464538Some of these characters are just aged up versions of trainers in the original. The little girl in pink with Hawlucha/Staryu is the Schoolgirl from the original XY.
No. 464702
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>>464699>Why don’t the boys show their legs and arms thoughare you dumb
No. 464709
>>464705>“Men and women dress differently, one shows skin and the other doesn’t”“Showing skin is not sexual or gendered”
Pick one.
(derailing) No. 464715
>>464714But men don’t wear short shorts unless they’re gay
Aka trying to appeal to men
(derailing) No. 464716
File: 1740696295122.jpg (90.21 KB, 854x1193, kk.jpg)
>>464704I wish there were sluttypokeboys in skirts but the best we are gonna get are submissive shyboys like allister and kieran. That is the best they can do for us, for now. It will change. We are inching towards pokefemale supramacy with each gen. They can't do it to fast or else more moids will blow up more buildings very fast. It takes a strategic hand do not forget. Embrace the dripfeed.
No. 464723
File: 1740696588659.jpg (417.5 KB, 2048x1460, GVFdWfIaEAMfmaK.jpg)
Gosh I love these girls so much
No. 464727
File: 1740696820552.png (369.03 KB, 626x892, IMG_1201.png)
Pokeboys kissing each other.
No. 464742
File: 1740698231405.jpg (181.53 KB, 1089x750, Gk05MMmXoAEzMTV.jpg)
happy pokemon day!
No. 464744
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No. 464804
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>>464676>I feel like women have been rightly pandered to with this gen.Rightfully so. They blessed us with Rika, she's so perfect. For husbandos, not so much but Arven is really cute.
No. 464852
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>>464734I don't really care about N. I just like Pokeboys kissing each other for my viewing pleasure.
No. 464893
>>464875>urbain and taunie are separate characters, not the male/female version of the player characterThey look almost identical to the (unnamed) player characters. And the meanings of their names are synonymous, like those of Calem/Serena, Ethan/Lyra, Victor/Gloria, Lucas/Dawn, Hilbert/Hilda, and Nate/Rosa.
>Why can't we be the female protag and pick taunie as our rival?Because choosing which character to be your rival has never happened in Pokemon ever.
No. 464896
>>464893It doesn't matter what they look like anon, they are literally different characters from the player set.
>Because choosing which character to be your rival has never happened in Pokemon ever.Heaven forbid they do something for the first time..
No. 464897
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>>464896>It doesn't matter what they look likebecause you said so?
>they are literally different charactersSame characters in different situations. Just like past protagonist that appear as NPCs.
>Heaven forbid they do something for the first time..True. GF should never listen to mentally ill xitter freaks dreaming of having "yuri" sex with the rival.
No. 464898
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No. 464901
>>464897this is a weird hill for you to die on lol
>because you said so?because it makes them SEPARATE characters from the player characters, not just the option you didn't pick made into a rival. This would be more like making your rival either Cheren or Bicana from BW depending on if you picked Hilbert or Hilda, despite them being independent characters. GF could put in both Urbain and Taunie but they aren't. They could give us the option to pick, like they've given us the option to pick our rivals name in the past.
>GF should never listen to mentally ill xitter freaks dreaming of having "yuri" sex with the rival.what are you talking about? are you really claming that giving players the option to choose their rival from the available 2 options would be giving in to people who want to ship ficitonal characters together? They're going to do that anyway anon.
No. 464903
>>464804The only person I know who loves Rika is a freaky transbian and he ruined her for me, still hate him for it
>>464875>nta but the difference is urbain and taunie are separate characters, not the male/female version of the player character. They have the exact same hair and get the rival treatment, so it's possible they ARE actually meant to also be the player but with dyed hair. We just don't know yet. I'd prefer to have Taunie as my rival though so I'd like it if I could choose.
>>464900>where did this xeet mention sex anywhere?Nta, nona… a troon who mentions yuri do NOT mean some sweet innocent hand holding. The aforementioned transbian runs a yuri review blog. It's all porn.
No. 464911
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>>464901>because it makes them SEPARATE characters from the player charactersNo it does not. Serena gets a different haircut depending on whether she is the player character or the rival. That does not make her a different character.
>This would be more like making your rival either Cheren or Bicana from BW depending on if you picked Hilbert or HildaCheren and Bianca look clearly distinct from the BW player characters (who actually have names unlike ZA protags).
>like they've given us the option to pick our rivals name in the past. Those rivals were Blue, Silver, Barry, and Hugh. None of which can be a player character.
>are you really claming that giving players the option to choose their rival from the available 2 options would be giving in to people who want to ship ficitonal characters together?Not people who want to ship ficitonal characters together, I meant the """""lesbian""""" trannies. A LOT of those demanding this change I see on xitter are trannies.
No. 464912
>>464911Girl, you hare so locked in on them having the same haircut, despite having different colorings and wearing different clothing. Imo it's more likely that GF are reusing the base 3d models because, let's face it, they always cut corners in development.
>Those rivals were Blue, Silver, Barry, and Hugh. None of which can be a player character.Exactly - you can't play as Urbain or Taunie. The player characters, currently unnamed, only share the base hair model.
>Not people who want to ship ficitonal characters together, I meant the """""lesbian""""" trannies. A LOT of those demanding this change I see on xitter are trannies.who gives a shit, those moids whine about any and everything in media.
No. 464922
>>464726>Most prominent Pokémon memoryI've got a few. The ads for Diamond and Pearl which aired when I was a kid really stuck out to me for some reason, and playing through PMD Sky for the first time. I was so happy the first time I got Skitty in the opening quiz kek
>Who first showed you PokémonI can't actually remember, I think my primary school friends got me into the show and then my first game was a Ranger one
>Why did you stick with it?I absolutely loved animals and fantasy, Pokémon was pure kino to little me
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>>464726Hmm. I remember watching the anime/collecting the cards first, but my first prominent game memory was borrowing my friend's copy of Blue and playing it for hours on my GBA.
>>464804Thank God someone else acknowledges the blessing of Rika. She is my favorite pokemon character in a LONG time. I think last time I liked a character this much was N. I hope we get more cool art/cards of her.
No. 464933
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>>464929Because I HATE her so much… not really
No. 464939
>>464933Kris is my favorite Poképrotag
and it caused me an embarrassing amount of discomfort when Chris Chan cosplayed as her.
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>>464948agreed. i've loved it since i loved ash/gary as an 8 year old. i'm so glad they're living out their gay couple vacation dreams.
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>>465015>>465016I'm assuming you've already read Kemeo's Red/Blue stuff but if you or anyone else hasn't, I highly recommend it.
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This redgreen doujin was really sweet and cute, I loved it. (Completely SFW)
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>>464502>>464613>>465072Best designed protagonists by far it's not even close
No. 465176
>>464517Been checking out youtuber videos and naturally despite the trailers never stating it and trying to be like "uwu it's not boy or girl it's just appearance" every single person is saying "if you pick the MALE character you get Taunie as your rival, and if you pick FEMALE you get Urbain". It's so funny how this is literally the woke English crowd they are catering to by doing this, and none of them give a fuck because we can all tell male from female even in a cartoon character.
And not a single comment in sight about it either!
No. 465178
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>>465160Cynthia is considered one of the sexiest and most coomer designs in pokemon by men, and she is fully clothed (unless you're muslim, in which case her showing hair, or even face, is slutty on its own). So I do not give a fuck what men think about female fashion and never will, I will wear what I personally think looks cute both irl and in game.
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Haven’t seen anyone else mention this, but it seems like they’ve reverted the hair texture to how it was pre-sv. So no more individual strands of hair. Which I’m not complaining about, I really didn’t like how the hair looked in sv.
No. 465182
>>465178nobody considers cynthia a coomer design? are you insane?
>>465179the lashes on the female rival are very odd
No. 465185
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>>465179agreed, I shouldn't be able to see a pokemon character's pores that just looks weird
No. 465191
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>>465178I'm just saying you can do what you want. Now what's your opinion on this design?
No. 465211
>>465179>they’ve reverted the hair texture to how it was pre-svBut that's how it was in the previous legends game? So it's not reverting anything, it's literally just the same as the last game!
>>465182>nobody considers cynthia a coomer design? are you insane?Nobody tell her PLEASE, I need this nona to stay innocent and pure. Let her be free.
No. 465243
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How excited are you all about this game?
No. 465272
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>>465242nta but I personally don't find males wearing revealing clothes to even be hot, especially not when it's as cartoony as pokemon. I can like the design, I think Kiawe and Kukui are cool and fun designs but it's not in a sexually enticing way. I'd rather have cool clothes/interesting overall look than them just being shirtless or something. I know waifu/husbandos are a thing but if I just take a step back it's bizarre people find 2D cartoon drawings sexy at all. To me it's like barbie dolls I guess, you can strip them nude but it's never been sexual in any way for girls to play with them because it's just a toy
No. 465293
>>465272that's because you're a woman and not controlled by your penis
>>465243i know a man drew this, for instance, because boobs don't look like that
No. 465296
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also her pants look like this. she isn't wearing short shorts. sorry!
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excited for the protag girl with big trendy non-form-fitting pants that make moids seethe
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No. 465330
>>465293>that's because you're a woman and not controlled by your penisthis very thread has presumably female anons drooling over little cartoon boys knees and them being "submissive" tho
>>465296god the lighting in the game looks awful, her shirt looks bright neon green
No. 465352
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>>465314tbh I wish it was snivy instead but its nice to see chikorita getting some love. seems its getting an improved moveset which is great since ive always hated the johto starters awful movesets. maybe itll get an alternate meganium form also? fairy/grass?
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No. 465501
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Thoughts?
No. 465579
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>>465338>Are the anons drooling over little boy knees in the room with us right now?I mean one would hope that they've left but it's not like they were even banned for it, see
>>464716>>465501I like them all. Sabrina was pretty spaced out for the time and we still get fairly "normal" looking characters these days like how Katy is just a patissiere and Dendra is in a black/yellow tracksuit. I really like the mix, makes them feel like real people with their own fashion styles; some dress normie and some are eye sores for attention to fit their jobs
No. 465611
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I was talking to a guy about shiny pokemon and which shinies we would change the colors of to be better. He scoffed and made fun of me for saying it would be cute and funny if togedemaru had a blue shiny to look like sonic. He said it was lazy an unoriginal and roasted me for it quite a bit. Then he proceeded, without a hint of irony, to list all of his superior ideas… which were ALL recolors based on popular characters colors. I tried to subtly point it out like "oh so primarina with a green tail and red hair… like Disney's Ariel?" but every time he'd miss the point entirely or find an excuse like "um actually the little mermaid is from a book anyway so it's not the same" like yeah bro sure but you specifically wanted the popular Disney colors of Ariel. Eventually I just smiled and nodded for a bit until I could find an excuse to leave. Anyway, anyone got any shiny recolor ideas?
No. 465612
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For the rikafags
>>465611Make shiny Nidoqueen have the same colors as regular Nidoking, the same way shiny Nidoking has the same colors as regular Nidoqueen
No. 465620
>>465619nta but most causal fans also recognise Erika and Sabrina.
> i'd prefer overdesigned flops than 1) armpit fetishism 2) boring japanese dress 3) boring attempt at scifi or whatever 4) office milfyou're entitled to your opinion, but girl, you're in the minority for a reason kek
No. 465621
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>>465611You made me try sprite recolors after over a decade haha. I actually used to have a Tumblr blog dedicated to post my shiny proposals, a shame I forgot to save my sideblogs when purging my account and didn't backup anything…
For Blissey, I actually like the shiny (I love pastel pink) but it's a shame it isn't as noticeable as her pre-evo, I actually got a shiny Chansey and still haven't decided on whenever evolve her or not. Mint green would be cute and follow Chansey's, meanwhile the yellow variant is for golden eggs (and because I love golden shinies).
For Golduck, since Psyduck turns blue like Golduck (not the same shade, but still…), I think it would be cute if was the same case as the evolution as well.
Mismagius doesn't have any explanation, just thought deep red looks cooler than that pee yellow.
Moltres with its original shiny colors. I hate how they turned it into a raw chicken from gen 3 onwards.
Since I'm with the legendary birds, a gray Zapdos reminiscent of stormy clouds/sky. We barely have any black and purple shinies now that I think about it…
I got other ideas, like reworking Whiscash (actually did it on said Tumblr, but again I lost everything), a brown Beartic like an actual polar bear and purple Nidoqueen (like the shiny pre-evolutions, or at the very least change her chest and lower stomach to a color other than pink, it has always grossed me out), but I don't feel like editing more.
Was bored and your post gave me something to do, thanks you kek
No. 465624
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Excuse the shitty picture. I've been replaying ORAS (specifically OR) and I'm soooo close to completing the Hoenn dex for the first time! Just need a handful more, excluding the rest of the legendaries. But I'm also super excited to complete that because I'm still able to get a legal Jirachi which is gonna be the most convoluted shit ever (I have the Pokemon Colosseum Bonus Disk, GBA Ruby/Sapphire, & the GBA attachment for my Gamecube. And then I'll need to transfer her between my DS and 3DS to get her logged properly) but once I've completed it I will feel accomplished lmao.
No. 465633
>>465621Love these nona! I love the idea of a mint green blissey because healing is often green coded in games. Please post more!
>>465619You know what I gotta respect the anti-genwunner opinions here, as a long time fan it's kind of refreshing to see someone not suck up to the older designs by default. I personally like and dislike designs from all gens. My main complains are usually that the old gens look far too basic/normie, while the newer ones I dislike look too cartoony and overdesigned. My current hate subject is Kofu kek
>>465625That's so cute nona! I have several pokemon ocs (yes I am that kind of cringe fan kek) who only use female pokemon too.
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I'd argue that the sweet spot for gym leader designs was probably around Gen 3 or 4. Not too basic and boring any more and not too over the top yet.
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No. 465921
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>>465619>genwun shillingsilence hoennbab
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>>465924i much prefer when the gym leaders don't look like they're wearing specific clothes of whatever type they specialize in. normal fashion vs costume.
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my gym leader tier list
some are not designs i love so much as they're great at communicating what the gym type is without looking insane and dumb like tyla or the vine head guy (a design i would actually like a lot if he didn't have
thorned vines for hair)
https://tiermaker.com/create/gym-leader-tier-list-3970 No. 465951
What the fuck happened to this thread lol
>>465921Fuck you, I got called a genwunner once for shitting on fucking PALDEA POKÉMON as if only a genwunner would think Gen 9 sucks ass.
>>465296>>465300This is so fucking based. I would prefer more tomboyish pants for self-insert purposes, but I'm completely fine with this. Even though I dislike this trend in real life, it doesn't look bad on this protag. It draws from real-life trends in women's fashion, so those people trying to justify the previous protagonists' revealing clothing with the "it's based on clothes real girls wear!!" have no excuse to be shitting on this now.
>>465926>>465934He's canonically 34 so he probably does kek
No. 465952
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>>465272Thing is that characters are designed with intentions, and sometimes one of those intentions is to turn people on with sexualized designs and sex appeal, even if you don't personally find them sexual. And knowing that a lot of the time that intention is there, and usually the "
victim" is a female character for the pleasure of a male audience, is frustrating. Not to mention, the attempts at making "sexy" male character designs might fall flat as opposed to sexy female designs, and not every time there's a shirtless male it's meant to be fanservice. Conversely, you can fall in love with a character without them having been made as bait.
>>465212 is kinda right though, in that part of the problem is that moids exist and their brain is broken. They think the mere existence of female underwear is lewd and it turns them on. They even think women's (and most terrifyingly, underage girls') existence is inherently sexual. They associate the words "woman", "her", and so on with porn. Everything a female person is, does or wears is a fetish to them, they do not see us as people like they see each other. They seem to fetishize everything by default, that's why a cool and innocuous character design like Cynthia's can get sexualized so much. They see she's wearing relatively short heels and transform them into ugly porny stilettos in their mind -> fanart.
Strangely enough, I haven't seen nearly as much sexual shit of mai waifu Diantha, picrel is perhaps the worst I've seen, and I think the artist is female. She also seems to be catered more to the female crowd that is into Takarazuka types despite not being exactly masculine, if her Special Costume in Pokémon Masters is anything to go by. But maybe I haven't seen it because I avoid the Pokéfandom like the plague. >>465364 is absolutely right.
I just want male and female designs to be non-sexualized unless the point of the game is to get the player horny. It's very obvious that they started pandering to coomers of both sexes (with an obvious bias towards males, or rather, the bias had always been there) with (IMO) slightly sexier designs since Gen 5. Then it became more blatant in Gens 6 (Sycamore) and 7 (Kukui). At first I thought it was kinda neat that they were trying to be more egalitarian in that sense, but I'm starting to find it annoying that half of the characters seem to be made as waifu/husbandobait. The NPCs in Legends Z-A look okay so far though.
This whole sexualized female vs. non-sexualized male has been repeated a lot of times, though. I'm happy to see others being aware of the blatant bias in Pokémon but that discussion really doesn't belong here anymore because it's a problem in all kinds of media and every aspect of society, so why even bring it up here? There's a sexism in video games thread for that, as well as the ugly man psy-op thread and the hidden board. Regardless of which side of the argument you're on, I think a lot of us are tired of seeing endless arguments about it.
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>>465951>What the fuck happened to this thread lolwdym it seems normal to me
do you want more trainschizos
No. 465965
>>465179Oh thank fuck, SV looked like utter shit even when the official artwork looked decent. In Pokémon Masters all the SV characters look so fucking uncanny next to everyone else because they kept the exact same 3D art style from SV.
It looks like the final character designs were not done by the same person that did SV too, so that's great. I hate SV's art style so much.
I still prefer the 3D style of Gen 8 by far, though. They need to bring back cel-shading, this kind of shading makes everything look unfinished and doesn't fit the heavily stylized character designs at all.
>>464911>Serena gets a different haircut depending on whether she is the player character or the rival.NTA but what are you talking about? Her default appearance as a PC is the same as her appearance as an NPC.
>>464702I've been meaning to ask… Can someone explain to me what it is exactly about these uniforms that make so many nonnies seethe? Why do they think these are ugly and that the boy and girl "look the same"? I mean, aren't they supposed to be kids? And those are school uniforms, not exactly the most fashionable thing, and their clothes are customizable anyway. I really don't know why these are always used here as an argument that "Pokémon character designs suck now". Why these and not the actual shit designs like that ugly fat fuck from the same game? For the record, I hate their face but only because it looks like a new artist drew it and the eyes are too "un-Pokémon" for me, but that's completely separate from the uniform thing.
No. 466005
>>465965The uniforms are ugly are are closer to a catholic scout uniform than a school uniform. You can't customize them, you have make the characters wear other ugly uniforms instead with the same colors and the ones from Scarlet are worse than in Violet. The characters look generic and boring, you can customize their faces and hair but everyone's hair looks like shit in this game and you don't see your own character's face all that much. Wearing a school uniform makes it seem less like you're going on an adventure and more like you're on a boring school trip, unlike all the previous games. The main characters from previous games where there was no customization had way better outfits that made them easy to identify them, they look iconic
except the guy from BW who looks like a copy of Red. The options for shoes, bags and other accessories also kind of sucked but that's just my opinion.
No. 466013
>>466009My bad:
>shorts look like pajamas, especially the ones in Scarlet>shirts look normal in 2d but have these ugly school logos, but they have a weird, rough texture in-game. The one in Violet looks grey the same way white clothes come out when you wash them with black clothes when doing the laundry, but it's not the worst part of the uniform>ugly shoes but you can change them. Some of the shoes you can buy look too big though so you'll look like a duck>the hat is fine but you can't wear it with all the hair stylesThe Unova school has better uniforms but it's only accessible in an endgame DLC.
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>>466013Thanks, I get it now. I thought the problem was something else.
>shorts look like pajamas, especially the ones in ScarletUnderstandable
>shirts look normal in 2d but have these ugly school logos, but they have a weird, rough texture in-game.After all, the 3D style they used in SV makes everything look shittier.
>The one in Violet looks grey the same way white clothes come out when you wash them with black clothes when doing the laundryI kinda get it. I don't mind the gray in the protag's 2D art, but it probably looks weird in 3D. And the way you described it makes me think of this fucker's atrocious design so I know how you feel.
>ugly shoes but you can change them. Some of the shoes you can buy look too big though so you'll look like a duckkek
No. 466019
>>466005This was absolutely the issue with SV's protagonist designs for me. They were designed extremely balndly because they come from the modern era of Pokemon Protags in which they're intended to be customized over and have lower presence than early gens. However the cost-benefit of customization wasn't equal so anybody who didn't like the severely limited and uninteresting outfit options just got zero gain.
I think XY is the last gen where the protagonist designs felt like actualy characters, even though I thought they were fugly as hell.
No. 466023
>>466019>I think XY is the last gen where the protagonist designs felt like actualy charactersI'd argue Elio and Selene's designs still have enough personality to be iconic. Especially Selene's.
>even though I thought they were fugly as hell.Wrong
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>>465938>Lana in D-tierOpinion disregarded
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>>465951>those people trying to justify the previous protagonists' revealing clothing with the "it's based on clothes real girls wear!!" have no excuse to be shitting on this now.what if I just think wide pants are ugly and scream 70s even if I'm a zoomer who is "supposed" to be into them? Like I'm sorry I'm not into my grandmothers youth fashion. What I'd like to see is pokemon characters with more distinct fantasy clothes, not like elves and shit but something that looks like it's from a game. Basically if I dressed up in those clothes I don't want people to mistake it for just a normal real life outfit. Blending into the crowd with a t-shirt and jeans doesn't give main character energy.
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>>465670Reminder that the flamboyant, drag queen looking guy that people at the time mistook for female from gen 3s battle frontier is literally named
Tucker kek
Bulbapedia claims it's from "tactics" lmao yeah no it fucking ain't. Nobody tell the gendies or they'll cry transphobia
No. 466082
>>466076>what if I just think wide pants are ugly and scream 70s even if I'm a zoomer who is "supposed" to be into them?That's a totally normal reason to dislike them, I even said I dislike those pants IRL (different reason but whatever).
Maybe to give that "fantasy" feel the clothes need to be more colorful. Like the fashion seen in early 00s Gen 3.
No. 466090
>>466078By the way, his name is literally stated in the translation docs to be based on the word "tactics", but hey, maybe the translator was hiding the double-entendre from GF.
>>466083>and I'm really sorry other nonas had to deal with that to the point they now feel bad seeing girl characters in shorts.Nope. You're missing the point that another anon was making, that there's no reason for female characters to wear more revealing clothes by default. It doesn't matter what male players think of it, or whether you could enjoy the designs with your female friends without thinking of it as sexual, because the fact remains that the girls still wear miniskirts, short shorts or form-fitting clothes while the boys are usually fully covered or expose less skin. The thing is,
why is this a thing? But like I said, it's not a Pokémon problem, it's a "living in a misogynistic world" problem. Yes, Pokégirls wear more revealing clothes because girls in real life wear them, and there's reasons for that, but you can't really address the actual reason why without derailing the thread.
Besides, maybe I'm a tomboy that would rather see the girls wear cool baggy ("masculine", """ugly""") clothes since they're supposed to be my self-insert and my dislike has nothing to do with scrotes' tendency to turn everything into porn.
And it's not like it's easy to avoid coomer moids on the internet either. I never had any girl friends in real life who were into the Pokémon games and most of my interactions with other fans have been online.
Also I'm pretty sure at least some of us who dislike the bias wouldn't mind if the boys exposed a similar amount of skin to make things even. Not because I would get off to it but because then it wouldn't feel sexist.
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>>465965>I've been meaning to ask… Can someone explain to me what it is exactly about these uniforms that make so many nonnies seethe? Why do they think these are ugly and that the boy and girl "look the same"?Them literally having the exact same clothes doesn't look "the same" to you? Idk what to tell you, they have the same body build and the same clothes and the same faces.
>and their clothes are customizable anyway.Huh? Did you even play the game? You're very much stuck with the school uniforms (discounting DLC giving you a couple extras), and granted there are 4 versions of it but you cannot change or customize them at all.
>And those are school uniforms, not exactly the most fashionable thingEVERY pokemon game before also had school uniforms on NPCs and those were cuter and more appealing, picrel is from gen 1. They spent like 25 years showing that they know how to draw regular cute uniforms and then gave us ugly shit instead. I genuinely think these uniforms are boring and ugly as fuck. I have to wear a dull grey t-shirt with a tie, or bright orange striped pants. Both are so ugly.
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>>466090>there's no reason for female characters to wear more revealing clothes by defaultThere is a reason and it's that it's very popular in Japan. And almost nobody outside of LC thinks that this is an issue (not counting muslims).
No. 466147
>>466095>there's nothing wrong with female characters showing skin as long as the male characters in the franchise equal the same ratio.What does this actually mean though? Trend wise women and men have always wanted different things, most women don't tend to think just showing skin is enticing the way men do and prefer someone refined or stylish like Sycamore, or mysterious like N, both are obviously fully clothed. And
>>466092 is right that a majority of females do actually like the girly fashion trends even if there are questionable origins to some things.
No. 466174
>>466147> even if there are questionable origins to some thingsif you're acknowledging that the intent behind the female designs could be questionable, it's unfair to then turn around and say women who disagree with those possible intentions are wrong. in other words, women have every right to question trends in media that they suspect to have sexist origins. to be clear, nobody who has taken issue with the bias of having the female protags wear less clothes than the male have stated they won't be buying the upcoming games because of it. they are simply highlighting what they perceive to be design decisions that are the result of sexism, and that reinforce sexism. and imo that's great to see.
>Trend wise women and men have always wanted different things, most women don't tend to think just showing skin is enticing the way men do and prefer someone refined or stylish like Sycamore, or mysterious like N, both are obviously fully clothed.I agree, but this is assuming that the intent behind creating male characters that are wearing more revealing clothing is the same intent as creating female characters wearing revealing clothing. arguably it isn't - women don't want to see male characters in less clothes to sexualise them, but rather to combat the culture of women wear less, men wear more. it should be normalised in media to see both male and female characters show skin, and not overwhelmingly only the female characters.
No. 466187
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One of my favorite things Pokémon fans do is come up with alternate typing/designs for existing mons. (I love the official regional variants too.) Recently, I learned about Pokémon Fool's Gold which is an entire G2 hack with just swapped designs/types. Does anyone have any favorite alternate Pokémon? I really like Pokémon Insurgance's Delta Crustle which made it into a crab cake kek
No. 466199
>>466091>Them literally having the exact same clothes doesn't look "the same" to you?I don't think that's a problem at all.
I do see how their faces are too similar though, but I just hate their faces for straying too much from the former Pokémon style. Same body build isn't that big of a problem because they're both children, and you can still see their bodies are differently shaped. The biggest difference is perhaps the hair. I guess I can see now why they look "the same" to others.
>EVERY pokemon game before also had school uniforms on NPCs and those were cuter and more appealing, picrel is from gen 1.You're right, some of the school uniform designs in other games were pretty good and I prefer them over the SV ones (although the one in your pic is bland), I just don't hate the SV uniforms, even though I'm usually a Gen 9 hater, funnily enough.
>>466174Too based for this thread, but please take it to a more appropriate thread so as to not derail and so this discussion can continue without anyone getting banned. No. 466209
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>>466187Here's another example from the same fan game, Delta Snorlax!
>Trees and plants tend to grow on this Pokémon’s back because it moves so little. It loves eating food while playing with tiny Pokémon. No. 466228
>>466174>if you're acknowledging that the intent behind the female designs could be questionable, it's unfair to then turn around and say women who disagree with those possible intentions are wrong.Skirts cut just under the knee were too sexy once upon a time, so designers pushed it to be above the knee for even more shock value and because it was "more sexy" or "provocative". So the intentions of skirts may once have been for it to be such, but it doesn't mean a girl picking out a basic skirt is sexy in today's society. there are also societies today in which women walking around with their tits out is still the standard and not see an sexy at all.
I think pokemon designs are very obviously not sexy compared to pretty much any other game or anime. They're so cartoony and unsexy that they're able to give a character sex appeal without it actually translating to real life imo (unless the person is a turbo autist weeb of course, but they'd also fap over sonic)
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>>466199>I don't think that's a problem at all.Them having the same clothes is not at all what has been posed as a "problem", even though it's arguably boring. And it's even more boring when both the protags, every school npc (which is half the region) AND the evil team have the same outfit too.
Ranger protags always had the same uniform (with some gender differences) and nobody complained about them being the same, because they were actually not boring shit like the SV outfits.
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>>466229Just for fun here's the ranger's actual school outfits too. I'd been happy with these designs in SV instead of what we got (sorry don't shoot me barelegs-chan)
No. 466273
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guys i've never seen pokemon but i'm obsessed with aipom right now for some reason. i think about aipom all day. every morning and every night. i smile every time i remember aipom's funny little face. aipom is so cute!!!
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>>466232crustle is ugly and i don't think anyone loves it so much as it's a super easy pokemon to make variations of. you can just put whatever you want on top of it and it's themed, kinda like paras.
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>>466187boring maybe but i will always love magikarp with koi color variations. magikarp jump made me so happy for this reason
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>>466286Oh, another G2 romhack does this: Pokémon Polished Crystal
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>>466341all older pokemon have gotten this gross grayish muddying color added to their palette
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what's your favorite evil team?
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>>466387Tbh only that keyart and old 3D models washed her out, it still has vibrant colors on modern media.
They're taking their time, but they seem to be fixing the washed out colors XY models had.
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>>466441I really like their designs though
No. 466466
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>>466418Aqua and Magma! I love how they play off against each other and it's more realistic that extremists of two opposing ends exist at the same time and fight with each other. I quite like their outfits too, some evil teams like galactic or yell look a bit too goofy to feel like villains (not that yell are true "villains" but still). I do hate how they ruined old Maxie though, he used to be fierce but in ORAS he looks like a fucking nerd I could bully with a lv.5 mudkip.
>>466463nta but if they saw showing skin as neutral then there would be no reason to want it to be in equal amounts? It would be like insisting they wear equal amounts of caps and fedoras.
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>>466470You know what's funny is that there is actually something like that going on with the protags! But no one is complaining about it because it's such a non-issue. My friends and I used to joke around about it as the thing we wanted in the protags but never got. Not gonna say what it is though, because that just proves that no that would actually not happen because people don't actually care about hats either kek
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Nonas let's just move the conversation along and ignore the pants-posts, SO who is everyone's favorite Kalos NPC or trainer class? I always liked the ace trainers a lot!
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>>466557>ignore the pants-postsdo you mean the weirdos who fell for the psyop saying that wearing pants or longer skirts are unfashionable? so sad for them
idk about kalos but i love the z-a girl. also what's going on with lack of turn-based battles?
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>>466557I thought the tourists were cute.
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>>466557The veteran lady, look how swanky she is
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>>466560Love those two! I think it's also cute that Japan knows that's their image in Europe as the "Japanese camera tourist".
>>466561It's so nice when older characters are still portrayed as cool, in Palea all old people are ugly fatties in school uniforms which looks so ridiculous.
Another character I like is Wikstrom. This bafoon is walking around in full armor in modern Kalos, gotta respect kek. And he has a yellow pokeball for some reason, wonder if those will be the new balls in this game.
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>>466557the punk girl is cool
No. 466571
>>466567As an adult who wears nanchatte seifuku as officewear, adults and children should not mix in school environments. It felt a bit groom-y and really weird.
A university with more grown-up uniforms would have been really nice, give the older students a bit more dignity.
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>>466562feel sad for them, because they only know how to appeal to the male gaze
>>466565tbh the aether foundation reveal really got me, it was probably obvious to some people but i was so into the twist that they were all a bunch of freaks with a kind caring front
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>>466557Siebold gets angry if you tell him "no" to pokemon battles being an art form kek
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>>466557I love the furisode girls. Not sure if they count as a trainer class like ace trainers because you only battle each of them in Valerie's gym AFAIK.
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>>466588best outfit of all protag girls tbh, she's fucking adorable
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Her designed is still obviously gendered, but I love Bettie. I think this is relatively good balance, and I like that the girl is the one wearing blue for once since blue is my favorite color. Although I wish they'd let us customize her clothes aside from color.
>>466014I wish Bettie and Scottie weren't supposed to be kids. I bet the majority of Pokémon Masters EX's playerbase are teenagers and adults.
No. 466601
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>>466595>>466598>>466599i like them too, shame about pogo ruining avatars. i can't wear half of my outfits i bought because my avatar now looks like a hulking tranny in them
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I like Rising Stars. Not only are they cute in design and personality, but I like that they're aspiring Ace Trainers. I love those vague relationships between trainer classes. Their color palette is refreshing.
>>466581I love them too. You can battle them in the Battle Chateau, but I don't know if they're the same ones from Valerie's gym. God I spent so much time in the Battle Chateau kek
>>466596There are only a handful of great things to have come from Gen 9 and Rika is one of them.
No. 466604
>>466601I'm still mad. They ruined my character so much I haven't touched customization in GO since.
>>466602Those are the outfits Paldea schools should have had! Cute, and as you said they still look good on older characters as seen on ace trainers
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>>466603this was my favorite top and i can't wear it anymore. this is with sliders at the lowest possible for shoulder size. literal tranny proportions with giant arms and a fridge body.
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>>466601Pretty sure it was some tranny (FTM) at niantic pushing that as well.
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>>466607it is pretty funny, also their dumb fucking faces. they all look like they have downs syndrome. i covered up my avatar's face and put her in a full-length outfit because for some reason the shoulders look normal there and her fridge body can be explained by the baggy outfit
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>>466597>i don't hate designs like hilda's, i actually like her outfit, she just looks so weird next to the boy who is covered head to toe.Me too, I actually love Hilda, I'm just a bit conflicted lol
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His outfit is so ugly
No. 466617
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>>466418Not sure if the count, but they had my favorite designs and I liked that they came in as the "true" evil org in SuMo.
If not them, Galactic or Rocket.
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>>466617god i love aether foundation
No. 466623
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>>466617I love them! So quirky and even the ugly characters lika Faba were well executed and captured his slimy character so well! Sun and moon might be peak design for me, team skull were also so much fun.
No. 466648
>>466623Yes SuMo was definitely peak design for me! Love those games.
>>466628My boring answer is… Balls…?
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>>466595 (me)
Random comment but I see a shitton of Scotties in Masters (guys that use the default name) but have never encountered a Bettie. On the other hand, in Japanese I see a lot of ユイs (many of which are definitely female) but not as many ケイs.
I wonder if this suggests that there is a higher percentage of female players in Japan than in the west. Regardless, I wish there were more female western players cuz I feel lonely.
Official art btw
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No. 466714
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>>466466>I do hate how they ruined old Maxie though, he used to be fierce but in ORAS he looks like a fucking nerd I could bully with a lv.5 mudkip.Fellow Team Magma/Aqua fan and I agree so much with you here, they did Maxie dirty with his redesign kek. His old design made him look sophisticated whereas his new design made him look like a nerd who never grew up from the Boyscouts. It's funny though isn't it? Archie's redesign may come off a bit silly but he looked a lot cooler and sexier and it honestly does flow better with the pirate theme of his Team Aqua subordinates.
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>>466466>>466714I feel the same with Tabitha as well. I have nothing against fat character designs but Tabitha's old look was so cool though I also admit that I found his sprite hot kek.
No. 466720
>>466418Personally it's a tie between Team Rocket & Team Magma/Team Aqua. Team Rocket is for nostalgia because of my being one of the OG fans from the first generation and even though their premise was basic in hindsight, I still remember how 9 year old me felt when I played Pokmeon Red back in 1999. It was also cool that they came back in gen 2 and I liked the story narrative of how there were still Team Rocket operatives who wanted to try to keep the organization going even after Giovanni disappeared with the naivete that they thought he'd return.
Team Magma/Team Aqua I will admit I thought they were really stupid when I was a kid because it was so obvious that both their motives would've destroyed the world making the planet inhabitable on both ends. But when I got older and learned how the inspiration behind them came from extreme environmentalist, I began seeing them in a different light as it did reflect some people IRL.
Extra shoutout to Team Aether though that's mainly because of Lusamine, I loved her crazy ass and it was the first time in a while where I found myself getting hooked on a Pokemon story. And with Team Skull, I did like their designs.
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>>466715>I also admit that I found his sprite hot kek.wtf me too crying emoji
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wait, i just remembered the other evil team executive i loved
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No. 466776
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>>466722Same with Courtney liked her old design better than the waifu bait in ORAS.
No. 466779
>>466714I like how they were still in their "evil villain is a mafia boss" era so they were essentially a direct evolution of Giovanni's design. I find Giovanni and team Rocket to be quite boring though, I don't hate J&J&M but them in the anime made it so I never saw team Rocket as a threat whatsoever and unfortunately as a kid that did ruin them in the games for me.
>>466720>But when I got older and learned how the inspiration behind them came from extreme environmentalist, I began seeing them in a different light as it did reflect some people IRL.They really do hit harder (goes for most of the teams) once you grow older and learn what kind of people they're inspired from. Magma seemed so silly to me as a kid, why were they picking a fight with Aqua when they'd obviously lose against water types?
>>466722Same, nonas. Same.
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One of the things I like most about Team Rocket is that their goals never centered around a box-art legendary. You could say that's because RGB didn't have the concept of a box-art legendary, but in GSC Team Rocket weren't interested in capturing Lugia or Ho-oh, or Suicune. I really love that Giovanni is a functional person in the world of Kanto, he even has a legitimate career as a gym leader, but behind the scenes he is trying to create an obscenely powerful pokemon because he doesn't hold the same values or morals as the rest of the character cast. I honestly prefer Team Rocket's more grounded intentions - someone like Giovanni is much closer to a real life villain than someone like Lysandre or Cyrus, and to me that makes him a more compelling character. Don't get me wrong, I don't mind a ott villain from time to time, but I wish they'd give us someone more subtle again. Or at the very least, I really hope for a villainous team whose goal is something more than 'catch the box-art legend'. It's become way too predictable.
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I love/hate when they give cute designs like this to some obscure no-name character that never appears anywhere else. On one hand it's nice to get more cool designs, on the other I wish they appeared in games and got to move outside the tiny TCG (or other) box they're stuck in. It's like the good design is wasted on someone who will never appear. Annoys me that I'd much rather play as this character than what we got for ZA
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>>466776Why is she like this anyway? Is it severe autism?
No. 466857
>>466776I never got to play RSE, but when I read the manga as a teen I was obsessed with Courtney and it was such a whiplash when years later they announced ORAS and they turned her into a completely different character, both design and personality-wise.
I ended up growing fond of Neo-Courtney, her design is still cute, but that's a skinwalker kek I wish they could do the same as Crystal-Lyra and made her a separate characters, the game already mentioned parallel universes and all that jazz iirc so it's posible.
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Hilbert in my trunk.
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>>466795I also like Team Rocket because they were completely unrepentant and had no "noble goal" or airs about trying to be anything but, as they call themselves, "Pokemon gangsters". We didn't have any villain teams who were as shameless as them until Team Skull came along. They just want to fuck shit up. I love them.
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>>466831ive always wanted to cosplay her but all the conventions here are in the summer and i know ill be sweltering in that sweater dress. plus sewing that vest thing, eugh… maybe i could use some thin sheet foam between the fabric to shape it?
No. 467111
>>466722AYRT and right on haha, so freaking handsome kek
>>466779Oh damn you're right! With that explanation it makes sense why their og designs looked so business-like. It still fits Maxi but I still stand by the opinion that Archie's more flamboyant design works better for him because his og design was honestly forgettable.
> find Giovanni and team Rocket to be quite boring though, I don't hate J&J&M but them in the anime made it so I never saw team Rocket as a threat whatsoever and unfortunately as a kid that did ruin them in the games for me.Aw I can understand. J&J&M were very silly and definitely made Team Rocket come across as non-threatening when they were the majority representation of them. When they brought in Cassidy and "Biff" with their debut in the breeding scam episode, that definitely helped the Team Rocket threat since they were a lot more competent and their schemes were more villainous, especially that episode where they had that Drowzee controlling Pokemon. But yeah, Team Rocket as a whole, I do remember finding them intimidating as a kid when I first played Pokmeon Red but that was mainly because the anime hadn't completely ruined TR for me just yet and because of their poison tactics, it definitely put some mild fear into 9 year old me kek
>Magma seemed so silly to me as a kid, why were they picking a fight with Aqua when they'd obviously lose against water types?Yeah though my bewilderment was more about why would Team Magma want to get rid of water sources when living things need water for survival and why does Team Aqua want to flood the world and make living for both humans and land-based Pokemon difficult to impossible? I knew that with Team Aqua, they would probably just say that they'd build underwater civilizations but fuck that, I know I wouldn't want to live in a dome underwater KEK.
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No. 467236
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>>466418I'll tell you my (and pretty much everyone's) least favorite evil team
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>>467236it's team yell. no one likes them except my contrarian friend who claims to love everything pokemon has ever done
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>>467246I find it funny how closely the male grunt resembles the Norf F.C meme
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moids seething and calling the new best protag "frumpy". this disproves every weirdo in this thread who claims that it's normal and not sexualized for girls to show legs. cope harder
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>>467308she's perfectly feminine and by far the cutest protag we've ever had. i love her big ol pants
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>>467319there's nothing better than denying those degenerate losers kek
No. 467350
>>467236You're not wrong, team star is pure shit. I know a couple of people who like team star because Penny is their waifu. They're all gross men who I want nothing to do with so it's just made me hate team star even more tbh
>>467246Team Yell is just ugly, but they're a little bit funny because they're a parody of sport hoolingans and fanatics. They kinda play nicely into being fans of Marnie and Piers and all that. They're still low on the list, but team star is straight up trash as an evil team because
>when you see them you don't even know it's the evil team of the region because they're wearing the same school uniform like every other fucking npc in the entire region>kinda the same point, but they just don't look cool or interesting or anything… they're visually not giving us anything new>they don't cause any trouble. At no point do they actually do anything disruptive or memorable to the story. We're TOLD they're oh so bad, but they do nothing.>you immediately get those flashbacks of the team star bosses talking so you know from the get go they're all nice and not evil>they're not a threat at any point so the stakes are always low, they're just there for you as the player to give them my little pony friendship is magic lessons to>beating nice people isn't as fun as beating bad people who deserve it so winning over them isn't even that fun No. 467356
>>467297They're both kinda ugly but it's got nothing to do with japan vs the west, both designers are obviously Japanese (or at the very least Asian and living in Japan).
>>467319>I dont really care for her design but I like it a lot better than the last one from scarlet and violet Yeah that's the only good thing about her. She may be boring and is serving hard cold NPC energy while being upstaged by the rival but at least she's not as bad as the SV designs.
No. 467409
>>467297I know the pants are what's
triggering her haters the most but it's honestly the only thing I like about her design. Everything else is ugly and unremarkable, the jacket and hat are such random elements. They don't feel intentionally designed at all.
No. 467413
>>467297>posting a screencap from a board full of porn-addicted literal autists and worthless chronic masturbators who unashamedly have regular pedophile and zoophile threads to prove your pointI know you're right but nona pls.
Also kinda
sus that the Champions protag has a similar color scheme as the L:ZA protag. Neon green being the main color in a girl protagonist isn't exactly common.
>>467308The big pants "controversy" is so fucking retarded because it's something women and even teenagers actually wear these days. It's a current fashion trend, and Kalos (especially Lumiose) is known in the Pokémon world as the capital of fashion. I can't believe some people (not coomers) are seething over it.
>>467411XY got robbed so fucking hard, man.
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>>467409i feel like the green/black jacket is gonna be related to some organization the protags are involved with. like the "promotion match" alert at the end of the trailer
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>>466715>that picKEK
I never particularly liked either Tabitha's or Courtney's old designs in the game, I thought they looked too similar to regular grunts, and the sprites being so tiny didn't help.
And I got nothing against Shelly's new design (I love her hair although her outfit is a bit retarded but everyone's new outfits are so it's whatever) but I adored her iconic Gen 3 design. And I'm talking about both her sprite and her appearance in the anime.
Because of these tiny sprites I thought Matt was supposed to be fat in RSE, but now I realize he was always supposed to be ripped and a redhead like Shelly. IMO he was kind of forgettable, I think pretty much everyone agrees that his redesign was a positive change and he looks cool as fuck now.
No. 467437
>>467421Still looks ugly as hell.
>>467419I've been saying this.
As much of a hater as I'm being though I love her design for giving us older female players something. I guess I'm just a nitpicker kek.
No. 467497
>>467413>posting a screencap from a board full of porn-addicted literal autists and worthless chronic masturbators who unashamedly have regular pedophile and zoophile threads to prove your pointsorry anon, i felt a little bad after posting it, i was just so curious to see the unfiltered male tears after the reveal. but myself and others should never post any moidtakes in this thread.
anyway what are your hopes for the evil team? speaking of liking team rocket's unrepentant bad-ness i hope they are also actually evil villains
No. 467510
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>>467501they've really made your rival and the villain teams toothless. i got excited over team skull because they're a bunch of jerks (but mostly comedic relief) and was overjoyed when we got aether foundation because they're totally insane. i really can't stand the "evil team wants to save the environment or liberate pokemon" or whatever bullshit, and i really hate the rivals being so friendly to you. they should be assholes like in RBYGSC!
No. 467511
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also the masked employees were pretty creepy
No. 467513
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team skull's depressing gloomy trap house is my favorite pokemon dungeon ever. excellent atmosphere.
No. 467519
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aged like milk
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>>467516fuck you
reposted because I replied to myself No. 467536
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>>467519I wish we had gotten a Johto game. It's the only region so far where the fairy type doesn't exist.
No. 467538
>>467409>I know the pants are what's triggering her hatersI'm a "hater", it's not the pants! The pants on their own on a real girl are fine. The pants (and whole outfit) on a fun fantasy adventure protagonist? Yawn! In a stylish city? Yawn!
The original pant hater was the anon who hates short pants, the other anons itt mostly just fought against that notion and not against the long pants.
>Everything else is ugly and unremarkable, the jacket and hat are such random elements. They don't feel intentionally designed at all.Exactly this! It's the whole outfit together is just so boring and feels mismatched. Imo it kind of feels like they designed the outfits and then last minute threw the matching jackets on top to make them "equal". The jackets clearly also match zygarde so they just went "omg wait, what if we gave a hint that the game revolves around zygarde?" thinking they were sleek
No. 467539
>>467524Can people stop with this retarded theory that Sycamore fucked Serena/Calem's mom just because they have black and brown hair? You know who else has black and brown hair? All but 2 of all pokemon protagonists ever. Serena is arguably blonde but still borderline brown, and Kris has blue/green hair. That's it! The rest have brown or black hair.
And the ancestor/relation thing was clearly present in Hisui because it was set in the ancient past and thus not a single character we knew could be present in the game. They had to do it to create familiarity for players. The website clearly stated "this is the ancestor of so and so" as a selling point for the games. There were no new descendants or relatives in SV despite them being released after PLA.
Also just from a selling standpoint, Sycamore has always been a fan favorite with women. And Game Freak is well aware of who is popular. So to make him then fuck those players' character's (Serena's) mom is gross, and to make them then play as his new daughter knowing they wanna ship themselves with him when he's their dad is also gross. It's a stupid ass idea to pair the two of them.
No. 467542
>>467510>and i really hate the rivals being so friendly to you. they should be assholes like in RBYGSC!I see people argue about this and miss that we have more than one rival these days. People go "Hau was too nice!" yeah, that's why Gladion was an edge lord goth to make up for it. "Hop was too nice" yeah, that's why Bede was a smug asshole to make up for it!
But with that said the Paldea rivals sucked for being too nice kek. It genuinely bothered me that Arven and Nemona would be fighting about who was my best friend and that I should pick them when I disliked them both. "She's MY best friend!!" Bro I fucking despise you, I'm only here to help your dying dog. Also I'm saving your beloved pokemon's life an you're still rude af to my pokemon koraidon for no reason, fuck you, go save your dog by yourself then.
No. 467593
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I don't understand why Blue is known for being an asshole. I don't remember him being like that neither in FRLG nor in HGSS.
No. 467607
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>>467524i want this to be true lol
also i like ghetsis he was an awesome villain and his bw2 design was badass No. 467645
>>467593I remember him as a rude little shit in gen 1:
>if you go to his house at the beginning of the game his big sister will give you a map but will tell you Blue told her not to give you one>will openly insult you before battles but maybe it depends on translations>throws a tantrum when he loses against you and you become the new champion like a spoiled brat>goes on a stroll in the big company where all the employees are taken hostage by team rocket, doesn't give a fuck about rescuing anyone, just wants to beat trainers because why not and he openly says so before starting yet another battle against youAnd last but not least
>won't warn you before battles against him, won't let you save between the battle against Lance and the battle against himThen he becomes an annoying tsundere in gen 2 for Red and in the remake he randomly calls you just to say you remind him of Red and then hangs up on you.
No. 467653
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>>467524sorry anon, he's just too ugly. he could be the most well-written villain of all games but he's not nice to look at
>>467593idk maybe it is a translation thing? i don't remember if the dialogue changed in FRLG/HGSS but in red/blue/yellow he tries to immediately hamper your progress right at the beginning of the game, insults you every time he meets you, plus he's always ahead of you, plus most people were shocked they had to fight him after the elite four (back before you could just google everything.)
>>467645he is so gay for red
No. 467655
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No. 467667
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>>467658>The other huge twist that shocked everyone back then was in gen 2 when you learn you can go to Kanto but it was ruined by the Western localizations of gen 1 not mentioning the Kanto region by name anywhere, it only worked because the NPC who tell you about this tells you to open your map on your phone so you can recognize the region by how it looks.this wasn't intentional? i thought it was supposed to be a huge surprise, that's so fucking cool that it ended up that way. i actually prefer it to having known i could go to kanto. i remember all the kids at school and me being so excited that we went back there. i also have to laugh, even though i struggled at the elite four a bit i did make it, but i know i had THE WORST moves and team ever. i mean they were strong enough i guess but i had like 3 water types. i never used ANY move that didn't do direct damage. my venusaur had like, solar beam / razor leaf / vine whip / double edge or something and i'd just spam moves without considering type differences much lmao. good times
>>467662lysander is ugly as hell, sycamore deserves better
No. 467682
>>467610>Why would it be such a big deal for Sycamore fans if he hooked up with the mom?I highly doubt game freak, who are from japan with strict gender roles, would like to promote your (as it's framed as YOUR, the players, mom) mom getting divorced and leaving your dad to screw your professor while you were out on your XY adventure. It's just an icky message for kids.
It would be far better to instead just either let it be a younger sibling of the same parents, or to have the new protag be sycamore's own child.
>The protagonist is just a kid, so most women wouldn't use her for self-insert fantasies with Sycamore anywayGirls, not women. And they sure did exactly that! But in general giving a long time famous husbando/waifu character a canonical partner is social suicide, it's the last thing they should want to do!
No. 467684
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>>467610>The protagonist is just a kidDoesn't seem to be just a kid to me. I feel like she, Serena, and Rosa cannot be younger than 17. I can easily imagine being older even older.
No. 467686
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>>467682>mom getting divorced and leaving your dad to screw your professor while you were out on your XY adventurei would do that. have you seen some of these professors?
No. 467692
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>>467690cry about it. more hot professor dick for me
No. 467693
>>467688The new protags clearly resemble Ethan and Lyra
>>464524 same as the PLA protags resembling Lucas and Dawn. So predict that they are originally from Johto.
>>467692Funny how nobody cares about Turo
No. 467701
>>467539>just because they have black and brown hairNona, the hair color isn't the only similarity. The black-haired boy has a similar hairstyle to Syc and the brown-haired girl a similar hairstyle to the mom, which I think is suspicious but funny. But I agree with you and everyone else that it would be a retarded move on Game Freak's part. Fujos and yumes
me included would riot if Sycamore was officially paired with our mom from XY kek.
>>467607Finally, someone who agrees. He's so insane and I love him for that.
>>467584>>467565Another nona already said it but Cheren goes through a similar arc, although he wasn't as mean and cruel to his pokémon as Silver.
Silver truly is best boy… I've seen scrotes say that they hate him because he's tsundere and they wanted him to be a cruel asshole forever kek>and I thought it was a little clever that he had a Crobat on his final team to really drive home the point that he no longer saw his Pokémon as tools but as companionsI love this as well.
>spoilerThat would be soooo kawaii. We know it happens, but I need to
see it.
No. 467709
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>>467705rose is a huge faggot and very boring but he makes me laugh. his design is def better than turo and his nazi haircut
No. 467713
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>>467705they both look 1000x better in a cartoony style. the hyper-realistic textures on SV were such a fucking ugly flop and if they ever bring it back i will cry.
god sada is so beautiful… No. 467748
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Why is she so popular?
No. 467764
>>467748"Goth gf" meme, moids like the idea of a gloomy female character who dresses modestly but has big boobs because it plays into their Madonna-whore complex fetish. And because her waist is emphasized due to the dress.
Not sure if that's what you meant
No. 467797
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>>467693>The new protags clearly resemble Ethan and Lyra >>464524 same as the PLA protags resembling Lucas and Dawn.The PLA protags ARE Dawn/Lucas. You literally fall through the sky from modern times at the start of the game. And they straight up just don't look like them. Case in point other people like
>>467701 are saying that they instead resemble totally different characters, being Sycamore and Grace. But none of these characters even have the same eye shape, which is one of the primary ways game freak has designed relatives. They also don't have the same shade of hair or eye color as their supposed relatives. Remember that gamefreak has made it
super obvious any time they create relatives. The closest match is the boy having hair similar to Sycamore but again there's nothing else, not even the eye color or shape.
No. 467799
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>>467693>Funny how nobody cares about TuroI really like his design actually, though Sada is the cooler one imo. The ugly undercut says "I'm a bit of a dickhead" which suits his personality of abandoning his wife and kid for his job kek
I think he looks fugly in 3D though, I only like the 2D art. Speaking of which, 2D will always be the true canon of everything in my heart. I mean we don't consider the tiny pixel sprites to be the "most accurate" version of characters so the in-game 3D models shouldn't be it either.
No. 467810
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>>467765I personally consider the "off-model" art to be more canon than the official art in some cases. Why do characters like Cynthia and Alexa have no visible boobs even though their cleavage is exposed?
No. 467811
>>467350I liked the concept of team star and how its a gang of deliquents who are the same age as the protag who's stirring up trouble for them. It's refreshing compared to having another evil team consist of failadults who get btfo'd by a kid.
But it got badly executed because they only show up in the story to introduce Penny and that's it, along with other shit.
No. 467889
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>>467810>>467812Please stop talking like a limp dick porn addict moid about cartoon boobs.
>>467827The "upgraded" version of a mainline game is almost always better
No. 467917
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>>467657>since it seemed like he didn't really learn anythingI don't agree, here's some Silver quotes from Crystal that clearly show his change in character:
(after being defeated by Lance) "I don't care that I lost. I can beat him by getting stronger Pokémon. It's what he said that bothers me… He told me that I don't love and trust my Pokémon enough. I'm furious that I lost to a bleeding heart like him."
"I don't understand… Is what that Lance guy said true? That I don't treat Pokémon properly? Love… Trust… Are they really what I lack? Are they keeping me from winning I… I just don't understand."
(in dragon's den) "No, I won't battle you now… My Pokémon aren't ready to beat you. I can't push them too hard now."
(mt moon battle) "You won, fair and square. I admit it. But this isn't the end. I'm going to be the greatest Pokémon Trainer ever. Because these guys are behind me."
And then, in the rematch battle, his golbat has finally become a crobat, which can't be obtained without high friendship. Silver does change over the course of GSC.
>>467810that anatomy is tragic, please get your eyes fixed
No. 467955
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>>467921>>467930>they're flat chestedme when i lie on the internet
No. 467974
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>>467748It’s fucked up they gave her big boobs in Z. They know what they’re doing and I wish they made her normie to make moids seethe.
No. 468038
>>467988This art here
>>467810 is supposed to show that the artists working for TPC are not allowed to draw the characters the way they want to draw them. They are, for better or for worse, being censored. That is why SOME "off-model" art could be seen as more accurate.
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>>468038i dont get why people are so mad at you for pointing this out kek, i imagine they dont draw the cleavage for western audiences who are way more finicky about a womens cleavage for some reason.
No. 468125
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>>468124then why are you replying? nobody is saying you cant talk pokemon
here i even picked a picture with no cleavage, just for you
(infighting) No. 468126
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>>468125bravo, that wasn't so hard now was it? Now I'm curious to know, for characters that have had multiple outfits, do anons have a favourite? I think I prefer Elesa's BW2 appearance more.
No. 468128
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samefag but also Grimsley's appearance in SM beats the original for me
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>>468124Report the moid.
(scrotefoiling) No. 468139
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>>467974I wish they made her an old lady or bring back the gen 3 hex maniac
No. 468140
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>>468139I always liked the crazy possessed priestesses best
No. 468149
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>>468128Both are hot. I like to think that he quitted gambling and went to Alola as a fresh start and getaway.
Or went broke and made himself as a prostitute. No. 468151
>>467889>The "upgraded" version of a mainline game is almost always betterB2W2 are not "upgraded versions" though, they're sequels. Completely different games.
>>467921I agree about Cynthia, though she's not flat, she just has small/average enough breasts that the cleavage could realistically look like that. There would be a shadow like in
>>468125Not all women wear push-up bras or similar garments. Scrotes don't know how breasts work and think it's censorship if you don't draw them so big they look like they're about to burst out of the clothes.
If shirtless moids don't have nipples in anime, I don't see why getting rid of the line between two boobs squished together when a female character with big boobs shows cleavage should be controversial, especially in an all-ages franchise.
By the way Naoki Saito is a coomer, it's no wonder he drew this off-model atrocity
>>467810He didn't just add the cleavage line, he straight up gave her different breasts, compare to
>>467812Also saying that non-official off-model art of any kind is "more accurate" is a travesty, IMO.
>>468054Kekkk
No. 468215
>>468120Idk if I'm fully on board with you (I'm not reading that whole reoly chain) but yeah I do agree with you. I don't think there's anything family un-friendly about some cleavage unless you're a prude. The female body exists.
What would bother me is egregiously huge breasts that are obviously unnaturally drawn with zero support and clearly defined even under clothes for the sake of a male fanbase's sexual imagination (or lack thereof). But we're talking about relatively conservatively sized breasts here.
No. 468221
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>>468183As much as I love SuMo's design sense overall, I think that generation and the transition to full 3D trainer models is where random NPC trainer models started going super downhill. The exaggeration of features that defined even "regular" job classes like hikers and whatnot scaled down a lot and the designs were overall less inventive. I distinctly remember looking at the farmers in and thinking… This is just disappointing.
No. 468255
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>>468126sorry for being rude earlier i was pmsing badly
i like colress' alola design a lot and i hope it gets in pokemas before that shit hits eos
seems like its happening within a year, game is so dead and the recent greed was so bad a lot of my friends who played since launch dropped it, including me No. 468266
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>>468126I love her like my own niece and her BW2 champion outfit feels like a picture you get on Halloween in the family group chat or something. The cutest.
No. 468295
>>468286it's felt like a skeleton dev game for a long time, maybe itll last longer since it
does still make decent money with very little effort, but i feel like pocket's insane success (its also by DeNa) has made the chance of eos even higher
No. 468304
>>468295Some players in the
subreddit say people who say Pocket will kill PoMa are just being alarmist, but maybe they're the delusional ones, I don't know.
No. 468387
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>>468191You misunderstood my use of "fantasy". I didn't mean "witches and goblins" kind of fantasy which is why I used quotation marks, I meant that they look kinda cartoony and not realistic, like from a magical monster adventure game and not like what my neighbours Susan & Steve would wear to the mall on a tuesday. Siebold is a good example, he's a chef but no real chef would dress like that! It looks both fancy and ridiculously cartoony at the same time.
No. 468391
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>>468221>As much as I love SuMo's design sense overall, I think that generation and the transition to full 3D trainer models is where random NPC trainer models started going super downhill. Hard agree. Gamefreak just can't do 3D well and the switch hit them hard, they've been struggling since. The trial captains and plot relevant characters look good. But I think they let non-key artists design background NPCs, and those artists no longer sketch out an idea with a pen and paper and instead directly model it out and that's why new models/designs look so bland. I've seen other game design studios do that, so I assume gamefreak does it too.
Compare the fisherman near the lower right
>>468221 to picrel from gen 1-2. His vest is literally part of his shirt. There are no dimensions, he's flat and boring. His face isn't saying much. But this gen 1 guy is so chibi, yet looks like an hardened tough man who's taking his annoyance of not catching any fish out on you with a battle. All his clothes have weight, pockets subtly stand out to create dimensions and his pants are tucked into his boots. All of those details are super basic art/character design knowledge - but they still failed at it because they suck at 3D. They've since learned to make the pockets pop out in 3D too, but they still haven't figured out how to do the actual designing first part right.
No. 468402
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>>468391the flatness you mentioned + washed out colors is real rough
i just googled to find a fisherman sprite and then i found this cute mf
No. 468403
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why is he so sluttyyyyy
No. 468409
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>>468396>his outfit suits him perfectlyYes, you misunderstood the post nona, it's what
>>468400 said. It's that his clothes look great in-game and suits him and the pokemon world really well! BUT irl that's not a normal (or even fancy) chef outfit that anyone would wear. That's exactly what makes it such a good "fantasy" design (if anyone has a better word for it I'm all ears, I just can't think of anything else. "Fantastical"?)
To give another example, Falkner. He is also a perfect blend to me. He's got the traditional Japanese elements but it's all bright blue and cartoony with big buttons on his jacket. Maybe it's a bit unfair of me to compare gym leaders/elite four to NPCs though.
No. 468446
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>>468412>That being said I agree with you that regular Pokémon trainers should be dressed more casuallyI feel like you're reading everything I said wrong lol I'm saying the opposite! I hate that modern NPCs look like boring normies and not like fun characters in a game. If this ugly moid wasn't literally holding a pokeball I'd have never in a million years guessed he's a pokemon NPC and I hate him for it.
No. 468514
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>>468449I'm fairly certain they are meant to look like yuigesa, the white pom poms worn by japanese yamabushi monks, since that seems to be what his design is based on.
No. 468533
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>>468507i was inspired to make a tim gunn pokemon team
No. 468538
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>>468514That just makes me like him more
No. 468569
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>>468391>those artists no longer sketch out an idea with a pen and paper and instead directly model it outNot really, it's still the same process. Actually, I thought designing trainer classes as they made the sprites was the process in the first 2-3 generations.
I think part of the reason they look weird in Gen 7 is because a bunch of them were designed by new artists, and because the 3D models are kinda chunky, which they also were in Gen 6.
The Alola fisherman seems to have been designed by Megumi Mizutani, that's why he has a cutesy feel. Looking at the concept art for most trainers in Gen 7, they really changed up the art style and seemed to have given individual character designers more freedom.
No. 468580
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>>468578
I just realized that he's a flying type trainer, most of his pokemon if not all of them are birds, tengus are usually dressed like that and they have wings with feathers and can fly. I've never made the connection before but this could be why he's dressed like this and not with another type of kimono? Reposted because I forgot the picture.
No. 468582
>>468569>Actually, I thought designing trainer classes as they made the sprites was the process in the first 2-3 generations.You still "draw" a sprite while a 3D model is… modeled. Different art and creation process.
>The Alola fisherman>he has a cutesy feelI'm sorry he WHAT? He's balding, fat and looks fucking disgusting and pedo-like. If anything
>>468403 from XY is cute (though I'm certainly not as ankle-thirsty as that anon)
No. 468585
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>>468582yeah not sure what that anon was talking about or if she was misremembering the design but I would not call this man cutesy
No. 468586
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>>468580remember when gym leaders had cool sensical outfits and weren't wearing costumes?
actually, sumo reigned it in a bit, and i love kahili's design.
No. 468591
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but agatha remains one of my favorite trainer designs of all time. it fits so well with her being a ghost type trainer (even though there was a single ghost type evo line back then so half her team was just "uhh this is spooky i guess" lol). plus her implied thing with oak?! the lore
No. 468592
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>>468585I'd accept Ramos as an old man character being described as having a cutesy feel, he's tiny and has blushing cheeks while tending to flowers. That fatso fisherman, just no.
No. 468593
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>>468582>>468585>REEEEEEEEEE HOW CAN YOU CALL AN FAT UGLY OLD MAN CUTESYYou go and nitpick my post for no reason, I won't even bother explaining basic shit to you. But this is clearly Mizutani's art style (her style IS cutesy) which is why he looks like that.
What I meant by the sprite thing is that I believe they didn't draw a sketch on paper first for old trainer classes and they were designed in sprite form first. Unlike current trainer classes which ARE designed first and modeled after. Get some reading comprehension.
No. 468600
>>468586Love her so much! I love how her stupid hair looks like wings, and how her outfit is pale but has bright orange socks to mimic a bird because she's a flying type expert. And her gold club having the toucannon colors too. Brilliant! It's another of those that are just whimsical enough to feel like pokemon without looking like something cartoon network barfed up with their morning cereals.
>>468591Her too, I love a good powerful feared crone character.
>>468593>REEEEEEEEEE HOW CAN YOU CALL AN FAT UGLY OLD MAN CUTESYIs this really how you wanna be remembered on lolcow dot farm nona? Is defending the bald old fat man really your magnum opus?
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>>467435That's fair. Again I'm bias because I had such a fic. crush on Tabitha's old sprite haha.
>shellyI actually really liked her old design as well, her redesign is… Okay? I agree that her hair looks cool nice but the outfit is just everywhere, it fits for Archie's redesign from a team aesthetic but no doubt her old design was pretty cool.
Definitely agree with Matt though, he looked bland as hell and I too, forgot about him a lot of the time and his redesign did him a lot of justice as I find myself being reminded of his existence when I think back to RSE compared to pre-ORAS days kek.
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>>468601I wasn't defending anything. I was saying that the face looks weird and not like the other fisherman because Mizutani's style is cutesy so the fisherman's face doesn't look appropriate for the type of character. Hence why I called it "cutesy". Doesn't mean I think the character is cute. Holy shit, reading comprehension is non-existent these days.
>>468603Yeah, it's nitpicking. My post had a lot more to say than just that, and then you guys chose to fixate on that word and misinterpret it anyway lol
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>>468569>seemed to have given individual character designers more freedomAnyways, I think this was a great point that a lot of people are missing. It explains why we have maybe one or two really standout designs and them the rest will just be complete blah as of late.
I think the 3d models + pokemons limited capability with the medium also don't permit much dynamic posing, so when you combine that with unexceptional character design everything just falls sort of flat in comparison to 2d generations. It's not as noticable with characters like gym leaders because they have a lot going for them to make them otherwise visually eye catching.
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>>468632>>468641This happens a lot all over lolcow. Try to not get so hung up on people making fun of you for bad wording choice. You don’t need to double down and clog up the thread defending yourself and telling everyone they can’t read. You’re arguing with someone who posted a silly Primus song. It’s okay.
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>>468593The T-pose and how it's drawn makes me think even more this really was a model first and only got drawn later. Who the fuck would draw the vest into the shirt?! And it's not about the artists style at all as she tends to do messy overdeisgns like picrel. Compare it to
>>468569 (which incidentally is one of the only interesting trainer class designs in Alola) and you can tell the extreme difference. One is thought through and drawn in an interesting way and the other is literally a copy of the standard 3D model pose. And again, picrel is also a character sheet by the exact same artist and in this the character is NOT T-posing but has interesting dynamic poses.
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>>467536Whitney is a perfect candidate for a Fairy-type gym leader if they ever make a Let's Go Johto game, especially since all Fairy-type Pokemon from Gen 1 and 2 used to be Normal-types. I imagine her team in the rematch would be like this.
>Clefable>Wigglytuff>Togekiss>Granbull>Azumarill (Azurill used to be a Normal-type)>Miltank (Tera Fairy)