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“”“sunmi is officially out of the closet”””
Does she ever get tired of pandering to Tumblrinas who "stan" her to show off how woke they are
Her idea of lesbianism is touching Seulgi's boobs and that's it
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why would she when they are eating it up
This is such a joke. I may like her songs but I highly doubt she is actually LGBT. She's queer baiting.
This is gonna bite her in the ass when they find out she's lying or they'll forever be delusional that she is gay with proof otherwise.
Kek @ straight pride parade also trending
Anyway, her whole schtick is definitely a persona made up by the old men in her agency, she's just playing into the sexy-but-not-oversexualized stereotype that all men have of lesbians.
>when they are eating it up
Twitter trends mean absolutely nothing. Her last album sold 8k copies (less than even Yuri) and her tour venues have 800 seats at most; armys will hype her up but spend all their money on BTS, and now that she's decided to queerbait more the Korean public might not like that either.
This move won't work for very long, expect her to drop a #MeToo themed album when she finds the likes and RTs lessening.
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Video of Sunmi saying she has a "LGBT side":https://twitter.com/chaengseuls/status/1136004737550229505
Pic related is her going on stage with a rainbow flag during Warsaw concert.
She's obviously queerbaiting, but I wonder if this is going to be good for her career in Korea? Even "woke kings" BTS, who rely on international fans, have been extra vague (aka haven't said shit) about LGBT and stuff. Even if it's just baiting, it's a pretty bold move.
Album sales for her aren't the best in Korea but physical sales are usually weak unless you have people buying like 200 albums a person. She does well digitally.
If this gets out to the general public of Korea it could hurt her career but I doubt it'll be in any news there. This stuff usually just revolves around Twitter or the i-fans.
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>>34327>in their ted talk
bts did a ted talk?
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Dat damage control.
People in the comments are spamming clown memes, does it mean they're pissed?
You guys made some good points
Are there any idols besides sunmi that mentioned lgbt before in any way? Whether it was supporting or just discussing it? Anything besides being homophobic or just pretending they don't exist really. And no, I'm not a sunmi fan btw
People only saw and heard LGBT but missed the Queen part.
Mamamoo could never say anything they're fanbase is Korea.
I've seen things where they tell LGBT k-fans they support, but nothing as public as Sunmi because they would be over.
The fans that support them most are lesbians or at least support LGBT and eat up the fanservice so that's why it's there.
Also skinship is a form of friendship that most Koreans are ok with even if they are homophobic. So there's that.
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French BTS fans demanding the Eiffel Tower be turned purple for their ~ baby boys~.
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this fag is so pathetic. he probably spends AT LEAST 10k on twice every year. his room is completely covered in twice merch so you know he's never getting laid and you can tell when he makes a video at work that his co-workers think he's retarded.
Suga, Jonghyun, GD, Heechul, maybe Jackson, some guy from JYJ. Chanyeol from EXO, Hoya from Infinite, 2AM Jo Kwon, Hansol from ToppDogg, maybe Beenzino, Ren from Nu’Est, K.Will, Ravi and Hyuk from Vixx, U-Kwon from Block B, SuJu Ryeowook, MR. MR. literally disbanded because Hon was dating a transwoman…
Kangmin, Holland and Marshall Bang are openly gay…
Forgot Tablo. And I’m sure there are others.
You forget that Korea is a place like any other.
Some of these are genuine but most of them are just pandering for fake woke points. Especially the younger ones>>34363
I don't think this vid proves anything, but it had been mentioned that winwin thinks it's disgusting and wrong for men to use the word "love" between each other, or for a man to say he loves another man
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Homophobic king. I'd post a fancam right now if no1 would booli me.
even if they are not homophobic they are probably ignorant about the topic since it's a huge taboo. most of them are definitely not ~~woke gay legends~~ like stan twitter wants them to be>>34404
these girls are constantly thirstposting about nct and bts, but don't you ever call them straight anon!! they are sooooo gay!!
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another instance of an idol not so subtly showing disdain for coerced gay ''skinship'' (which is basically a word made up by kpoppies at this point)
yeah exactly, I feel like in many idols brains the possibility of what they do being gay doesn't even register. at least when they just hug or hang out very closely.
they may think its crossing a line during the kissing games tho, hence why they always have cringe reactions to it.
>>34354>Kpop fans should realize that their idols are more likely to be homophobic than gay.
Absolutely.>>34375>Tbh I feel bad for Twice constantly seeing this ugly fuck show up at events.
You really think their other oppar
-fans are any better? lol
I once read that some j-idol wrote a passive-aggressive post, asking her otaku fans to at least bath before they watch her show, I imagine there's a similar stench at twice concerts…>>34409
That doesn't mean that he's any more homophobic than the others tho. If Korean guys were socialised to think men holding hands = gay, then they would act the same way as he did.
While we're at it already, who are are idols you think despise each other?
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Tbh, not liking a woman whose personality is made up of "I love pink and people say I'am ditzy, teehee" is kind of understandable.
Pic related happened several
times, also with the French flag lmao. She's essentially just a dumb American bimbo.
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at this point I am sure that ratmys will do every single obnoxious thing to put those "boys" in the pedestal
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She attended the "Fendi Roma 90 Years Anniversary" in July 2016, which was in Rome. Roman Holiday is the name of a movie, that's what she's referencing.
from googling this and their member profile (i dont know much about NCT, i dont like the boybands) there are images of mark squeezing haechan's thigh and them holding hands. and then there are images of this mark guy doing tons of weird homoerotic shit with other men. apparently it's an injoke that haechan likes to grab other members hands?
also korean seniority culture means mark and haechan aren't equals because of age and he might've seen the hand grab from a younger guy as a power move/flex or its a joke between them
seems like extreme stan sperging to allege homophobia based off some dumb adlib… also they're all unattractive
So do you only like girls groups?
Also I'm thought those two are the same age? Idk> They're all unattractive
True. But I actually don't find any kpop group members attractive in any way
Fans consider them to be best friends and they're the most popular ship. Mark and Haechan actually had a very obvious falling out with each other a while back. They disliked each other enough at one point to switch rooms (they were roommates I think) and wouldn't touch each other in one of their choreographies. And people just used that occurrence to feed into the idea that Mark and Haechan are boyfriends.
I feel like everyone in NCT hates one another and I don't blame them for that considering SM literally fabricates their relationships and created fake romances between them for fanservice.
Icute how many in their country started hyping them up because of their fake US popularity. cause before that nobody gave two shits about them and even nowadays I'm sure Koreans don't enjoy their music as much as they claim to.
I hope you're right and we'll have some peace but I think they're gonna do solos and stuff. And when they come back the starved ratmys will be even more obnoxious.
I will never understand what makes any of you think the rest of Bigbang are good guys just because they’re not directly involved in Seungri’s prostitution scandal. I’ve even seen videos of them shading Seungri in interviews as proof that they disapprove of his “business deals” but you guys act like they didn’t willingly turn a blind eye to all the shady stuff Seungri did. They could’ve easily gone to the authorities (not the police obviously, but there are other avenues) or just made it public and dealt with the lawsuit fees, but their fame and money was more important to them. If one of the bts members turned out to be supplying date rape victims
for wealthy businessmen at clubs I’m sure this thread would be foaming at the mouth about how everyone in the group is complicit so idk why Bigbang is any different.
Saged for massive sperging. I just think they’re all pond scum.
Fuck all of them. Pretty sure most idols of YG are complicit in everything.
I have no faith that anything will happen though this shit goes all the way to the top and they're not even doing anything to those who were take the blame. This is such bullshit.
I agree. They all are complicit, which is not really surprising. Seungri has a huge ego so I'm sure he bragged about many things to them.
They've all done shady things. They just got away with it. GD and top especially give me weird vibes (women too young for them, drugs, parties).
Exactly, I don't get how people can be so naive, they surely knew, yet simply didn't care because they also don't think any higher of women than he does.
A couple days ago I read that netizens loved Lee Hongki's "sassy" response when asked about the dude who was in his group, but all I could think of was, he must have known too!
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Lmao, not even Koreans are buying into that>[+401, -91] She's a hypocrite who doesn't want to give up her own privilege even though she claims to be against discrimination. When has she ever acted when she got into her acting major with special treatment?>[+67, -26] She says she supports them but then draws a line saying "don't misunderstand, I'm not gay">[+60, -11] She wants to act woke but draws the line… she's so fake and hypocritical
Also, they're praising Seolhyun's collar bones, but she looks so creepy to me here…?
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>9. [+31, -0] The pride of our country. They're the first not only of Korea but all of Asia. BTS will become legends like the Beatles and Queen.
why are they so delulu? i dont even like the beatles or queen much but they created their own songs without being manufactured and queen's live act was legendary. jimincel's screeching is comparable to that? they're more like fucking NKOTB (sold 100 million, no one knows who they are now)http://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2019/05/japans-bts-group-ballistik-boyz-btz.html?m=1
>3. [+461, -6] Is Japan turning into China now? Why not call them Atomic Bomb Boys~~
>>34477> they're more like fucking NKOTB (sold 100 million, no one knows who they are now)
I pray that that is their eventual fate. And interestingly, they are even less talented than NKOTB (some of whom could play instruments and compose). BTS otoh are such a thoroughly worthless group. Bad singing, bad dancing, can't write music, can't play instruments and almost all of them had to get massive ps in order to be considered palatable in their own country. So what are they good for?>Atomic Bomb Boys
Koreans stay classy.
Knetz and retarded BTS fans have been harassing that group constantly and making up tons of insane rumors about them. The ironic thing is that they are part of LDH aka Exile's company and their company has been doing this sound and style since BTS were in elementary school. The only reason that they have any similarities is because kpop has been lifting from American hip hop and jmusic since it's inception.
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Checked to see if this was posted on the last thread. If i missed it ignore it.
Fucking gross. Again, fuck these people.
Reeee don't insult j-rock like that!
But seriously, they don't have an ounce of their creativity. Old kpop with that ugly japanese host hair at least made them look unique, now it's bowl cuts in 50 shades of blonde and pastel peach or pink
Lol someone link them to our thread to remind them about bts' past with hip hop.
Not defending rap cause I know it just enables sexism and all and when you watch smtm you see how disgusting and tryhard the dudes are but I'm sure men over there don't need "black music" to influence them negatively, they are trash even without it…just look your burning sun scandal… that wasn't caused by rappers was it?
I also hope that they know black music includes RnB which like every singer over there uses…ignorant statements, as usual.
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ah yes, thankfully our precious BTS has never shown any sexist attitudes after building their music style on hiphop clichés, they are soooo above all that
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their music is purely intellectual
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So ik Lovelyz is kind of irrelevant but I watched a stage video of their most recent comeback and their styling seems like they're REALLY trying to push Mijoo to be the next Hyosung.
The new produce X group will debut this year and they already have rabid akgaes, over time fans will move on to the next shiny new thing.
Even Big Bang's time in the sun ended, and I honestly don't think member solos will do as well group songs in the meantime.
poor daehwi - guy is so gay that he can't even take comments calling him gay coolly and immediately assumes that they are insulting him (like what is wrong with people assuming you are gay - because the opposite is people assuming you are straight which is still assuming something you don't know about a person)
he even goes as far to say that he needs to maintain his family line so he will get married for sure this poor guy is digging himself in a hole kek
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>>34519>So I want to discuss with my fans about when I can start dating or get married
wtf lmao only in asia
They don't go to after parties because of their shitty English, even rm struggles so there's no point in going there and feeling out of place and uncomfortable the entire time.
But no…it's because they wanna go talk to the fans afterwards. Sure lol.
>>34516>talking to the artists like normal human beings is how connections are made that'll help them maintain a foothold in the industry
I always thought not going was such a stupid move because of exactly this. What do they think will happen? White snake Taylor forces poor baby cow Jimin to fuck her?
But "the boys" don't need to worry about getting collabs etc anyway, since their dumb fans will simply harrass other artists (or the nasa) until they acknowledge bts's existence.
He didn't seem to have a problem before, he went on that show with Heechul and they even played up the gay rumours.
But now he is probably doing it for his career, since AB6IX are literally new and being actually out as gay is career suicide for a young guy in a newly debuted group.
Give him some more years into his career and he'll cool off.
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that is jihyo's thigh
am i seeing something that isn't there or are they self-harm marks
also in this video it is so obvious how lowkey vicious and sore loser momo is lmaohttps://www.vlive.tv/video/97618/playlist/97631
As someone who observed their rise: they really utilised social media, especially Twitter where international fans gather. They would post selfies like every single day, post vlives all the time and really maxed it hard on the fan engagement side. Fans only care about groups that provide a constant stream of content, even if it's not musical content. You get a good amount of Twitter stans and you're set for an intense fanbase that spam you everywhere.
TDLR: They didn't get popular for music but for fan engagement
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there's something wrong about mijoo's face. her mouth area really bothers me. i don't know if she got some type of surgery or that's just her natural face, but it bugs me so much everytime i see her.
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Have you guys heard about it? SM handed codes to make NCT chart on Billboard.
I saw someone on twitter
buy 11 nct albums for $35~ by using their merch code. $17 fan meets and $3 albums are the only way 127 can get anyone to pay attention to them. This is so pathetic alexa play ko ko bop.
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Speaking of Solar, I think she looks mostly normal? Nta but if you spend too much time online looking at heavily styled and edited celebrity photos, you forget what the average person looks like. Stare at a still image of a person for long enough, you’re naturally going to find something weird. Especially if you’re already a nit.
ehh, that's like the foundation of kpop
solar doesn't even look that different, or different from how you'd expect her to be barefaced
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then you need to get your eyes checked
Mamamoo was the best for me in the beginning when they were more sublte in the things they did, and they didn't do what anyone else was doing.
Now they're just tryhard, especially solar and hwasa (wannabe-Beyoncé). Their songs are just copies of other songs released in the US a few years before, and they're very bland.
Moonbyul also successfully manages to ruin every song for me. They really didn't need a rapper, at least not such a bad one. The only one that I now can still (somewhat) tolerate is wheein.
Moonbyul's rapping does
suck and I'm surprised nobody itt has mentioned it before. Her voice to begin with is insufferable and the flow makes it worse. It's a shame because I like her visual and was interested but just can't bring myself to listen.
Is it because their teeth are big?>>34562
I AM CACKLING. Super Junior may have had ugly members but NCT somehow sells even worse. Not surprised though, I looked the members up to see them and the Chinese members that got booted to that new subunit are actually a lot better looking than the Koreans + Yuta. How SM managed to debut only a bunch of ugly kids is beyond my understanding when there's plenty of good-looking trainees that are debuting in shit groups at shit labels.
hes so unlikable…
If he didn't want fame and attention he should've stayed on the low with his band or whatever he's doing.
Can't believe I was disappointed when he left winner, he's trash too.
Did all these koreaboo incels come from /mu/?
We aren't going to appease your hateboner for women who don't look like a 12 y/o version of naeyeon.
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Sage for OT. Anons who post solely to make accusations of kboo-ery are self projecting hard. Everyone here has been involved with K-pop at some point or another, there's no contribution in pointing fingers so often.
I thought those chinese kids were pretty ugly tho, and not much of an improvement from the rest of neo cloning technology>>34562
Wow, just wow. Can't get much more desperate and pathetic than that. I wonder when sm is finally gonna give this up and send most of the members back to the basement
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You had me until the visual shit. She looks like a warthog, anon. You don't have to say someone is pretty after you basically called them talentless and annoying just to make yourself feel less mean.
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she's a weird looking one but she's actually got some pretty decent music. hope she plays petty and comes for the very little career he has left
Because groups like that are made and managed and even the members are chosen with a different marketing strategy in mind. Groups like Twice were created purely to be marketed towards mouth breathing incels and pedos, so it doesn't matter if they have talentless members and shit songs as long as the members fit the marketing scheme and please their incel fans.
Mamamoo has the strong woman wanna-be concept, so the members were chosen purposely for this concept. They tried to choose artists that are better singers than the average idol and they also gave them songs with a more western vibe.
Red Velvet has the dual concept going on and I'm not sure what the initial marketing strategy was because honestly SM seems to not be able to really stick to a strategy and they are all over the place. But they chose Wendy and Seulgi which are definitely above the average idol when it comes to talent, Irene and Joy are average but Irene is really pretty according to Korean standards and then they added Yeri for some reason, I think they might have added her for pedo points.
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looking back on this mv i realize how fucking trashy it actually is. wtf is this outfit?
So I haven't been following Produce much but I saw some of the fancams of the latest performances (most where suuper shitty) and I just checked the eliminated trainees.
Damn, this dude has such a good voice (albeit feminine, but I find it really interesting). I never would had figured he would be eliminated so quickly. You can just tell Korea only hypes up the most basic and talent less people.
What's so special about him? That
he's wearing lipstick??? If you ignore the uwu tumblr fujo pandering, he sings like he's had his balls cut off and he's way off beat at one point. He'd be absolutely insufferable in large doses.
They've always had a huge female fan base.
This Japanese tv show even tried to break down the reasons of why that is: they're hot and therefore girls admire them while insecure males feel intimidated (and that's also why Twice will never be the 2nd SNSD).
It's just the cheerleader effect.
You'd automatically think they're hot just cause there's so many of them, wearing the same sexy outfits and do synchronized sexy dances.
When you look at them individually, none of them are beauties imo.
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It's just the cheerleader effect.
You'd automatically think they're hot just cause there's so many of them, wearing the same sexy outfits and do synchronized sexy dances.
When you look at them individually, none of them are beauties imo.
Jesus, calm down lol This is just what the tv show said.
I never claimed that they're super beautfiful, "hot" doesn't neccessarily mean attractive face, just that good body + short outfits + high heels is too much for your typical uncle fan who usually only lusts after innocent, girl-next-door types. They look too confident for them.
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So apparently, bts had been invited to become members of the 'Recording Academy'class of 2019. Someone explained from the comments that it was supposed to be a group of people who votes for grammy award winners on 2020.
Anyway, nothing stops them from giving themselves nominations on every category this time.
My question is, How can they judge talent when their music sounds plagiarized left and right?
Why is that important?
i believe it was a collab for the soundtrack of their upcoming game that was probably mentioned on the previous thread.
Anyway, bts were clout chasers ever since jungkook covered that charlie puth song. They realised how big of an impact it has when they latch onto foreign/western acts so they grab every oppurtunity to collab. Plus they are narcissistic and thinks they were some top tier A+++ boyband that doesn't deserve sharing the fame with fellow korean artists because they weren't previleged like them when starting up and started from the ground with a dirt poor company. I mean, if they don't think highly of themselves too much now they would have tried collabing with fellow koreans and be the humble kings ratmys claims them to be or something. I mean, psy did collab with hyuna too despite collabing with snoopdog at the height of his popularity. Psy didn't try to collab with every single american artist left and right.
there's a kpop general thread for questions like this. everyone here has shit taste anyways.
stan astro and weki meki btw
I fucking love f(x). Victoria is my favorite.
Anyway… the variations of the question 'so what groups do you guys like?' in K-pop critical are such a forbidden fruit. They obviously don't belong here but provoke such curiosity, I hate when they come up but join the faggotry myself>>34701
You seem to like Fantagio. Hello Venus was my shit back in the day, sad to see they disbanded.
Ah I see you're a man of culture as well. Victoria's my favorite too. It's really a shame that f(x) is basically non existent, they were really good imo.
I might be in the minority here but I kinda like when questions like that are asked here even though they don't belong here. It's.. refreshing in a sense and I'm always interested in what people will reply lol.
Sage for obvious reasons
I do like fantagio! I really liked hellovenus too, I still listen to glow all the time>>34722
, retard. I was joking. you summerfags are more spergy than usual this year.
>monsta x, blackpink, loona, astro, weki meki, day6, berrygood,…
These groups debuted like yesterday?
I understand still liking some songs of groups from back when you were young (dbsk, snsd, wonder girls, kara, shinee, exo, etc.) because of "nostalgia", but starting to stan any new idols when you're already an adult and should know better is just sad.
Even if they're just 18, there's no excuse for fangirling over talentless 3rd (or are we already at 4th?) generation groups.
At least stay out of the critical thread if you absolutely can't help it.
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i am an oldfag at 24 but i feel like the loud ones atm are in their teens.
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Not that anyone gives a shit but UHSN is still going on (show about foreigners who like kpop wanting to produce their own song) pic is from latest episode where they talk about feeling uncomfortable being nonasian and wanting to be a kpop idol. Mnet and Korean audience really like them (surprise) but everyone else is screaming "kboos" at em. Only a matter of time b4 we get pd101 America
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White girls looks so fucking weird with korean editing
It was a contest which the girls auditioned for. So I dunno about how rich they are
but the show is cringe as fuck and i get serious second hand embarrassment watching them - constantly screaming and crying over kpop. Only the american and japanese girls are kinda already famous bc they were in a singing contest show before
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That whole kboo thing wouldn't be such a big problem if the concept of girl and boy groups + soft and innocent styling + being cutesy would be a thing in the west too. Nobody likes kpop because of traditional korean culture itself (same for japan, china, etc).
But dumb tumblrinas and twitter stans would probably say that light makeup and the likes are
korean culture in itself and therefore us or euro girls doing that too are culturally appropriating. >>34759
She looks weird because she's plastic af.
I tried to find a decent pic of a foreign model and then saw this. Seems like korean styling also doesn't look too well on koreans if they're not filtered lmao
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Kai looks so old
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Yikes…I didn't know he looked that old
"Korean styling" is pretty much just trying to look like a bgd
contest were all the winners happen to be white with one indian (most likey high caste) that's 10 shades lighter than a paper bag
It seems like with these auditions specifically they come to YOU and ask you to perform at an audition. So it might be that they already narrowed down the people for those they want of a certain look and called it an "international audition"
Which is not suprising because they already do this when big agencies have international auditions cough SM and say that everyone is "free to come and audition" (lol)
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Holy shit did an orbit really hack cube's yt channel?
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I'm both. Yuqi doesn't deserve this but fucking lul.
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lmao hacking. they just changed the translation for the title and description. never understood why some of them seem determined to get their favs dragged
thats precisely why I don't want anyone to be a Koreaboo. I couldn't care less about their makeup or their cringey attempts to seem more Korean but I just don't want these girls to fall into the hands of disgusting men who'll exploit these girls' obsessions with Korea. There's plenty of men like jung joon young in Korea who will brag about sleeping with "easy" western girls.
They've romanticised that country so much that they fail to see how backward and sexist it actually it.
If you're already at it why wouldn't you do something actually
funny instead of giving your faves a bad name? (Unless they actually hate loona).
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Imagine having to constantly kiss your fans asses, just to appear 'woke'
I can't fathom why any English-speaking foreigner or even a Russian wants to participate in the Korean industry. These girls must seriously buy into the k-pop lie completely. I don't understand why that group of two black American girls debuted singing in Korean either and basically got paid dust (k-pop is so disrespectful toward black music and racist towards black people as a whole), or that Z-Girls group>>34814>>34878
What has G-IDLE done that's racist? Using henna or whatever?
The marriage of woke twitter crap with kpop and stans using it to 'cancel' anyone they dislike is unfathomably disgusting. BTS, Loona and Mamamoo's agencies are basically fully using woke capitalism to make the brand of the kpop industry titanium strong at this point, because they know kpop's perception abroad as a slave factory (plus this Seungri/YG shit) needed to be countered
It's because, least in terms of the white westerners, they seriously think people will lay down the red carpet for them and throw everything at them. And they don't realize they are in foreign territory. They aren't in their home country were everyone would give them the benefit of doubt automatically so it will be a huge culture shock for them. That's why I don't feel bad when they get shown their asses.
For the black and other non-white people coming, they are naive and believe in POC solidarity. Then they get shown their asses in korea and japan with blackface and subhuman comments
You're so right… Since they see how some Koreans obsess over "white" features (paleness, big eyes, tall) they think they'll be worshipped once they go there. And yeah if you fit the standards you'll be fetishized ngl but are you really ok with that?
Even black people are fetishized among those who are into hip-hop there so it's not even only white people. Just look at jay park, probably the biggest "blackboo" in the industry (or ratmon?).
That's why some people should consume certain media only in moderation….
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Id say Zico takes the cake for that one. Or that one bitch who won Unpretty Rapstar who said she's "Cosplaying as a black person"
I mean that have at least four producers and writers helping them every song. To get a song writing credit you only need to change a few words here and there to get a credit.
The singers of BTS def are all just word changers, the rappers probably have more input but I would say it's still not enough for the praise they get about being "self produced"
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Jennie apparently had the panic attack
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Apparently it happened again today.
She absolutely needs to take a break from touring/promotions or YG at least needs to make a public statement addressing her physical or mental health because it’s not okay for people to get sick literally every day at work.
It also seems like a mental thing (depression, anxiety etc) rather than a physical illness because sometimes she can put on decent performances with good energy and is clearly in a good mood, depending on the event or location (coachella or other major appearances) but when she’s otherwise not excited about her job that day, she’s suddenly physically ill?
I get the impression she isn’t taking care of her mental health because a Korean company like YG wouldn’t prioritize that in their workers and probably don’t provide her with counseling or psychological assessments, so who knows how she’s coping with her career, but it seems like she’s blatantly not coping at all right now.
To be honest, same here. Back before the Burning Sun thing CDAN (blind item site, it's hit and miss whether the shit posted on there is real or not) had a blind item about a Korean girl group member being made to sleep with a high-up at Coachella to get them in the festival. Blackpink were the only Kpop girl group to play Coachella.
Now that it turns out Burning Sun has basically been a front for YG to sell drugs and traffic women, it makes me think back to that blind item. And wonder what else Blackpink might be being made to do.
Regardless of whatever she has or has not, to me she never seemed like the type of girl who would enjoy the idol life, so after getting to know bp better I really couldn't understand why she chose that path.
She looks like she'd rather be a socialite, going on fashion shows and all. it seems like she thought becoming an idol would be a fun thing but now that it isn't what she imagined it to be she's become disillusioned and is burning out. Just my two cents tho.
but jennie and jisoo have rich parents with connections, and they still can be forced to sleep with someone for their career? this is sad>>34939
well you can read all the threads…
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I know no one gives a shit about Weki Meki but I just remembered how insanely ugly this girl is. Why would anyone take this of themselves and think "yeah that looks good, I'll post that selfie"???
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It's Lua. Kinda nitpicky, I know, but her eyes are just gross. She also has a disgustingly gummy smile, which is gross no matter who it's on. Like Mina from Twice, she looks decent until she smiles.
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Pic related. I feel physically repulsed by this
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That conspiracy theory has been around for a while and I'd absolutely believe it. Companies lie about idols' heights, make them get copious amount of surgery, have them put on totally fake personas, etc. Lying about age isn't really that far fetched.
>>34796>really makes you wonder about how much of their music they actually write…
lol anyone with two brain cells to rub together already knows that the members self-produce jack>>34876
Why? It's funny
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Is anyone else tired of the over emphasis on Seola and the other hoe from WJSN? SS has been pushing them hard by having either one of them start and end each song, having them in the center when they aren't even singing, giving them more lines, having them in the middle for photoshoots and giving them more screen time. Honestly they are the least interesting members and they aren't the prettiest in WJSN and yet they get the hard special treatment.
>>34974>Why? It's funny
said, this meme died a long time ago and the hackers should've done something actually
funny while they had the opportunity.>>34952
Bom's fake debut age (if we're all on board with that tinfoil) was already very comparatively old. 25, wasn't it? So maybe part of the reason she got so much surgery was paranoia over signs of aging.
I don't follow the group but their most recent comeback is absolute trash. Same with fromis_9's most recent song which also sounds like generic kpop garbage. The only girl group comeback that has impressed me at all this year was Oh My Girl's The Fifth Season but it'll be slept on as usual.
OT but does anyone else feel like Lovelyz is on the verge of disbandment? The recent media play for Mijoo was probably Woollim's last attempt to try to revive public interest in the group. Then again I think I'm like 1 of 5 people who remembers that they exist so…
Rich parents can't do shit if their connections are in a different field, or not high up enough. There was a rumour that JYPE (the company) tried to get a sponsor for Tzuyu once, and she also has rich parents.
I think the only truly untouchable one is Siwon because he comes from fuck-you money, everyone else can be bought for the right price
Proof? I'mm not a stan i just really love it when these things come out. Makes me lol hardcore..
I remember reading Sistar members all lied about their age too.
At this point fans and even non-fans dislike her so she must be doing something wrong.
Nobody really likes conceited people who act like they're above anyone else.
lmao you are sad anon! imagine giving enough fucks about frikkin wjsn to even differentiate their plastic faces except the trout-faced one
kidding aside - wjsn only had the chinese girl with the boobs and thighs going for them now that she is gone (and has lost weight so all her value is gone) wjsn should be over soon
The sad thing is, I've heard american guys (who definitely have zero idea about kpop) say how hot
they find her. She will probably continue to get pushed for ages, as long as dumb men find her fuckable…
And for some reason I don't understand fans (koreans too) have even forgiven her for dating so soon after debuting. She really gets everything handed to her.
It's because Kai has already had his dating scandal and EXO isn't the trendy group they once were. All the maniacal fangirls already left with Krystal.
If she was caught dating Jimin, Kang Daniel or Jungkook though, that'd be another level of chaos
Well, usually it's not just the fangirls of the bf that hate on the female idol, but everybody. She's so famous, yet got zero backlash, that's weird.
I have also read conspiracies of fans who think that they secretly are still together and they act as if they're sooo happy for them…yeah right lol
Tbh, I still doubt if they ever dated whatsoever. It just seemed so out of place. Edawn and Hyuna a few months prior got a huge backlash from company and fans, and I would claim they both weren´t nearly the level of Kai and Jennie.
My theorie is, it was just to cover up the special treatment scandal of Idols in university or something like that.
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I think she looks very eye-catching when she has heavy makeup on but when she's not styled in any way she looks like an average teenager (I know she's older). And I chose a more flattering one.
It seemed really suspicious that the original formulation of SNSD kicked all the official 1985-1989 and 1992-1993 members out, including Soyeon of T-ARA. If the tiffany thing is true, there was no way SM was going to allow a member to be older than fucking BoA. I'm not sure what tiffany's real age is, some of the fashions in her predebut pics align with her stated age and then others don't
Baby Vox had a member who was 32 on debuting and got kicked out>>34995
Bora went from January of 1990 to December of 1989 and Hyolyn January of 1991 to December of 1990. I know they wanted to make it seem Bora was a 90s baby and subtract a year from Korean age from both but it was literally the most pointless lie imaginable. Who the fuck gives a shit about a month?
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This confession thing I read really made me laugh my ass off I became a blackpink memeber…
I don't think Jennie is hot. I mean, take off all that make up and whitewashing and voila… an anorexic version of akidearest
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>>35016>Baby Vox had a member who was 32 on debuting and got kicked out
Interesting, I did not know about that. I wonder whether she lied to everybody or if her agency knew and then her let take the fall. Though you can definitely see that she's very much an adult, trying to act younger lol
When googling that I couldn't help but notice how much prettier the idols back then were. They had no ps and despite being young, they were styled in a mature (but not overly sexual) way, they were tall and had their normal skin colour. I wonder when this whole innocent baby with chalk white skin thing started. When Boa debuted she was also still marketed as "though".
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>>35018>anorexic version of akidearest
why is this so accurate
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Seems like she's doing fine.
Also, how did she photoshop her legs to make it look twice as long…lol
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https://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2015/01/pann-anti-behavior-baby-vox-suffered.html>Kan Miyeon even injured her hand because a fan slipped a razor at a fan meeting, purposely placed so that she'd cut herself when trying to open the letter.>One fan even sent a bloody letter asking her to go to hell with her.>One fan dressed up as a staff member and came in with a water gun loaded with soy sauce, vinegar, and red pepper and sprayed it at the group. Yoon Eun Hye injured her eye but continued to perform with an eye mask. (see pic)>Shim Eun Jin was sent a dead cat.>The members were bombarded with rocks and eggs in public places.>The daughter of Baby VOX's company CEO was bullied at her school.
Nowadays fans seem tame in comparison to that. Imagine somebody like Jennie having to put up with that, she'd quit after less than a week. And all of this happened because of now fat Moon Heejun…
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Look at Rose's waist… Smaller than her own head or Dua Lipa's thighs
Her legs look abnormal too
I called Jennie having health issue after touring for some time >>>/ot/327541
Ofc it happened during lower profile SA concerts and not in NA or Europe. She'll Sulli her way out of BP before contracts renewal.
Seems like she didn't lose the Korean mentality but someone remind her how they got dragged in America for being underwhelming and mediocre.
Only your SEA fans think you're all talented goddesses so you better be more grateful girl.
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>>35000>Wjsn only had the Chinese girl with the boobs and thighs going for themCries in Chengxiao
SS and Yuehua are stupid as fuck, Chengxiao had her schedule cleared and she was able to participate in the comeback but they threw her back to China to film two more dramas. I think it boils down to SS and YH being too lazy to add her in their new songs (save me, save you, lalalove) for kcon and the other lives that require them to sing those songs.
>>35038>goat dies in Amsterdam
Jesus…they're so fucking bad.
And after this whole yg mess is it safe to say that there won't be any more solos as promised?
senorita still slaps… but g-idle always seems kind of sus. before I even knew she wrote (or co-wrote) the music, I thought the visual of one member on a handmic and the rest wearing headmics was really bizarre. like… is their management purposefully
trying to draw attention to the lack of talent in the rest of the group as a selling point? was it all assembled to showcase a single member? the “group”-ness seems super fake and basically redundant, so everything else seems off..
looking at the things he's done and said he was genuinely a good guy. he's actually shown open support to korean pro-lgbt acts.
i'm saying this to compare them to him or whatever but then you have sunmi's apparent pandering for clout or bts trying to be gay kings while never having said anything about lgbt at all. if all the kpop idols stan twitter pushes as "gay icons" actually cared they could start by using their large voice to address the huge issue with homophobia within their own country.
the backlash he got was pretty obscene, especially after he was super blatant in supporting a bisexual transperson on twitter. lots of “you’re just an idol, it’s not that deep, stay in your lane”… I think it definitely set a precedent for how idols navigate those issues to this day (jonghyun also had the shitty luck of setting the precedent for dispatch scandals, being their very first. ugh. nobody has to grasp at straws to wonder why he might’ve felt so stuck.)
sunmi at the very least waved the flag, which has a lot of meaning to lgbt people fighting for pride. if she was pandering, it felt like she was pandering to her actually gay base. bts always comes across like everything they do is meant to pander toward (mostly foreign) straight teenage girls, and that any sj characteristics are just to fuel the fantasy of a woke oppa.
Yes exactly! I've noticed that they only talk about these things when they're not in Korea.
It's really not an accomplishment to tell your European fans that you're supporting gay rights.
They all jumped on this trend because kpop has become more international so they try to get woke points because it obviously worked for bts.
If anyone was really as genuine and passionate about it they would go on Korean shows and raise some awareness, or hold the flag in their Korean concerts instead.
It's a smart move though ngl.
samefag, i meant "i'm not saying this to compare them to him">>35049
i kind of doubt sunmi's sincerity because she started doing this after she became aware of kpop stan twitter but props to her for openly speaking out i guess. bts are at the level where they aren't dependent on anyone yet are still too afraid to take open stances on anything. >>35050
bts doesn't even do anything woke in the west either, they do the bare minimum by saying something like "all humans are equal!!" and their fans start putting words on their mouth for them.
The group is just a vehicle for her songwriting anon. CUBE tends to do this, like how 4minute was changed from the original concept when Hyuna defected to CUBE (although actually the other four were pretty decent singers and held their own compared to k-acts nowadays)
That said, I think Yuqi is more… animated than the others… the others all feel dead eyed>>35045
I dunno about that. In the US they were pushing Jennie as 'Ms Asian Kardashian'>>35050
In fairness Sunmi did it in Poland which is arguably more hostile to gays than Korea. I suspect that's part of the stunt though
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Someone fucked with mamamoo's translated titles again, this time it was nctfags
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classy. nctzens are as bad as armys/blinks only their group doesn't even have modest achievements they can sperg about. the only thing they have going for them is that they came from a company that has produced good groups in the past.
I hear it, too, anon, but I honestly can’t name a single nct member off the top of my head and don’t want to spend an hr on the blogpost comparison between the color coded lyrics page and au shinee line assignments lol…
but later shinee had a pretty consistent formula for line distribution based on the members vocal color and center status (taemin is super vocally limited but pushed as center, etc), and once you hear onew’s fanboy and decide which rap verse is butch enough for minho, the remaining members parts are pretty apparent… it’s not unlike sm to hold onto track for a long time (Russian roulette?) and they probably blew a bunch of money on the 5hinee 10th anniversary that never happened/want to recoup costs.
all that said… it would’ve been a weak a-side for anyone in 2019. Weirdly dated sounding.
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"Asian don't raisin"
He just turned 33 a couple days ago lmao
On the left during his toilet scandal and on the right nowadays
Lmao. Also this reminds me of how a lot of people in japan call bts the t-shirt group kek>>35064
Yup. I feel sorry for the all boys and girls who waste their time and energy over these people and their shitty pop music>>35063
"asians don't raisin" is a huge joke
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armys mobbbed jungkook while he was trying to talk to a fan in wheelchair
the funny thing is army twitter is mad at the ones who are bragging about touching him as if they would be any better in the same situation. if you look at the backlash they're all soooo anti mobbing yet they keep mobbing them at any chance lol
"goat dies in amsterdam"
LMAOOOOOO thats a perfect video title, too perfect
Holy shit, as a Shinee fan this makes me really sad. Ever since JH passed and Taemin's solo has been gaining traction, Shinee is basically done so I expect more of these Shinee demos to be given to NCT.
I don't feel like it's a smart move though. Shinee gained a fanbase of older women with their first single and then moved gradually into the electronic stuff but it feels like NCT hasn't pandered and established a direct demographic as their audience. NCT Dream was very successful with their first two singles as appealing to 'noona' fans but last I checked, SM has thrown away the 'younger' concept for them which is ultimately going to screw them over as well.
Might also be worth mentioning that Exo gained a lot of fans in their Growl era which aesthetically was known for the school uniforms and probably appealed to the average Korean girl. If SM was to replicate the same boy-next-door pandering for NCT as they did with NCT Dream previously, I think they'd have better luck.>>35038
Rose is basically Bom at this point. Maybe Lisa will get some vocal lessons and become the Minzy of the group, who surprisingly became undoubtably the best singer out of the four by 2014. I have no hope for Jennie or Jisoo since their vocal tones are so grating and will still be unpleasant to listen to even if they receive proper vocal training.>>35062
OT but was Russian Roulette a Jungsis song?
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This show gives me Beckii Cruel and the Cruel Angels vibes.
>>35079>SM has thrown away the 'younger' concept for them
I didn't get that vibe from DNYL, that was one of their most boy next door concepts yet. Granted, it was a station and hrvy got most of the lines.
Am I the only one who thinks this lineup are much more competent singers than anything else NCT has to offer? Their voices are nice, they have better synergy without Haechan and Mark. Shame SM has turned them into Youtubers while they shower the inferior unit in comebacks, tours, and promotion.>inb4 b-but don't you think yuta is the real best vocal of nct? Those useless fucking gooks don't give him the chance to shine due to racism desu umu
I was actually just asking a question because it's something that I've heard across multiple forums in the past few years and I'm confused how anyone came to the conclusion that it was intended for Jungsis. It seems more f(x) than Jungsis to me.>>35088
I didn't see this, but now I'm realizing that you're right and that NCT Dream has consistently been using that image up until now. But SM is using a graduation system for them iirc which seems like a bad idea considering they're the ones who got the entire NCT system their first music show win.
I don't know why it is but I agree with you that these kids are a hell of a lot better as a group than the older members. NCT 127 has better sales than Dream but I think the added promotion and tours is working in their favor, and if Dream were promoted in that same amount they'd be received far better.
Speaking of fx what the fuck are their fans so annoying for? Shitting on Red Velvet like they forgot Krystal and Sulli were equally lazy and boring, plus half their songs were Shinee/SNSD rejects too so I don't get why they think their songs are being "stolen" by RV.
They cry about Taeyeon and Tiffany being given solos before Luna but don't even stream her songs. I hope SM announces their disbandment this year so their loud stans will stfu for good
I think both are gonna disband soon anyway. I'm sure sm is already preparing for another girl group.
Hopefully they'll be more talented than jyp's and yg's current girl groups…
This song sounds like a mixture of die young by kesha and one last time by ariana grande. I don't know about the dreamies actual talents and abitlties, but they definitely work well as a group, much better than the older ones
>inb4 b-but don't you think yuta is the real best vocal of nct? Those useless fucking gooks don't give him the chance to shine due to racism desu umu
Lol but who would even think of this after reading your post? I'm confused as to why you even wrote it, it doesn't really make sense here>>35100
Whatever happened to that hina girl?
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This guy has become such a Gangnam Oppa nightmare. He doesn't even look human anymore.
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Yeah the visual of SM's ngg probably would have been Yiyang but she left SM recently. I haven't seen anyone else that really stands out from SM.
It's nepotism. It happens at smaller agencies too>>35113
Honestly at this point I wonder if these rookie groups are just red herrings like neo-2NE1 was. I dont see how SM is going to be able to drive a wedge between TWICE and IZ*ONE on the one hand and BLACKPINK on the other, especially since ITZY covers the middle ground. GFRIEND shows people still kinda want an SNSD-like group but I can't see them pulling that off
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Pretty sure that Lami is SM's ngg's visual (if she's still there).
How many 3rd gen idols do we know of that come from big money? I can think of Chenle and Tao but would appreciate more suggestions that aren't BP members.
TWICE Mina's mother is a laywer and her father is a physician head at a Hospital in Japan.
TWICE Jeongyeon's father if a famous chef and sister is an actres.
Itzy Chaereyong/Iz*One Chaeyeon are speculated to have come from money due to a translated korean forum post about how trainees could afford to wear designer brands (plus selfies of her in her house which looked hella spacious.)
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Also OT but looking through the #sr19g hashtag (where I found this pic >>35119
) has a lot of stalker tier shit.>>35123
This got me thinking: I wonder if an exceptional young non-asian koreaboo had rich parents, would any of the big 3 let them debut.
I want to say no, but you never know this day and age.
Kek I'm picturing an otherwise normal kpop group with one random whitey awkwardly pushed to the back. PULL would have a fucking field day with that.
As much as white kboos would enjoy their own Lisa to self insert as, if it ever happens it will be from a literally who company and it will go nowhere.
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i am so fucking sick of blackpink and i need to vent about it lol. 2NE1 wasn't my favorite group but seeing those charisma vacuums flop around on stage makes me miss them so much. they were given the same concept and the same songs as 2NE1 but it just doesn't work the same way. it was empowering to see (at least) three average looking women sing about being confident and unashamed, even if it was all just a gimmick. what a slap in the face for yg to call them ugly for years and then abandon them for some less talented but more attractive understudies. why the hell would anyone root for these toothpicks? what is likeable about any of them at all?
When I see an idol who's obviously struggling with mental or physical health I always wonder why no one in their group ever seems concerned or wants to help. I can't assume that that's true for all groups but with something like anorexia where it's visible that their condition keeps on getting worse and worse, I assume nobody gives a shit. These girls eat together and live together, you cannot tell me they don't know.
Must suck to be with a bunch of people for YEARS and act like you're all close but behind close doors everyone's minding their own business.
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They are all skelly as fuck, so they prob. enable each others unhealthy eatinghabits
Lmao next thread pic pls>>35147
They probably see but either:
Get competitive, I really think in the case of Blackpink they all compete with each other to be the prettiest and thinnest
Or in other groups cases can't do anything about it cos its not like they can eat more than what they are told to by management, or if they tell someone its not like higher ups always care about physical or mental health. The Oh My Girl ex-member was lucky she could get out when she could with her ana.
All celebrities are under huge pressure and nobody is feeling sorry for them either - difference is that some of them at least deserve their fame.
They're adult women who are insanely rich, I honestly can't bring myself to pity them. Especially knowing just how hard idols from older generations worked; meanwhile they wore Gucci already pre-debut.
They're getting coddled so much, they definitely could change things if they tried hard enough (e.g. doesn't Jisoo talk in a non-aegyo voice while the foreign members act all cutesy?), they could get help for mental problems if they wanted. Even if their agency is against it, they have enough free time and money to do so on their own.https://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2019/06/enter-talk-yg-entertainment-media-play.html
A very long summary of YG's media play.
The comments on this video are so dumb, it's disgusting.
1000s are praising Top because he supposedly always disliked Seungri (doesn't that mean that he might have known? and therefore is guilty too?), they're "sad" because Seungri was always the least popular member and therefore acted out. They also want GD to "slap" him once he comes back from the military. A slap for being a rapist…
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Why did they literally chose the ugliest dyke to add to the group? It literally looks like Utah.
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Also, Amber pretending to be straight lol
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So Nancy is starting to get hate for her body although she seems to be at a normal weight but I guess you have to be slightly underweight to be considered at a normal weight as an idol or you have to be severely underweight to be considered skinny as an idol.
1. [+761, -109] You haven't even made it yet and you're already in the headlines for not only dating but drinking too. Now I see why she gained weight.
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That styling is horrible, but she's not ugly
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Yea. Also it seems like she was always this type of girl (just searched her pics rn)
She kinda looks like a mixture of amber and yuta(and no, I don't mean this in a bad way)
Why is momoland getting so much hate? Their level of talent is the same as any other current girl group I don't get it.
i feel like they drag her in every article.
Do they hate her cause she's pretty or did I miss something?
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>>35172>She kinda looks like a mixture of amber and yuta(and no, I don't mean this in a bad way)
How could this ever be a compliment lol
>>35176>Do they hate her cause she's pretty or did I miss something?
They've been getting hate ever since they supposedly made a face/snickered or something during someone's performance (BTS's I think). Also Nancy is half white so automatically she is simultaneously beautiful with enviable features but also fat and aging like milk according to Knetz. See Also: Somi
Male halfies seem to be exempt from this criticism for the most part.
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Her upcoming debut received only negative attention so far, she's been getting more and more hate comments. People acknowledge that she's beautiful, but either say they'll boycott her because she's in YG (that somehow doesn't stop them from liking BP tho) or they shit on her for lacking talent. Hardly any idols can sing, at least she looks good and has stage presence. Racism definitely plays a big role in that.
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smells like a utahchan to me. no one else would think looking like him is a good thing.
your obsession with shitting on this dude is unhealthy. by you i mean everyone in this thread lmfao. istg there should be a separate thread so you can all jerk each other off for hating on his ugly ass.
sage for not contributing to your autism.
Why do anons ITT always find a way to bring up The Crimson Chin when NCT is mentioned or even when it's unnecessary?
Like this for example >>35088
what was the point?
Probably not a real good example but it's been happening a lot lately in these threads and it's annoying. Idc if you talk about him but stop trying to shoehorn him into every damn conversation.
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Pls chill. I just said that because when I searched her picture on google I saw so many posts saying she looked like those two, like pic related. And when I said 'not in a bad way' I was talking about the girl not yuta because I don't think she's ugly but I do think they look similar. I'm also this anon >>35186
I'm convinced Big Bang's entire career was built off of media play, starting from the Seo Taiji connections. Otherwise I have no idea how so many people are fans of them when their songs are literal ass.>>35164
She looks fine and is probably at a higher underweight or a normal BMI. People don't understand how much proportions + body shape influence how you look, and even if you do work out, there's only so much you can do. You can diet but the reality is that your limbs are always gonna be short, and you're always going to be petite. No hate either because I'm petite and struggle with it myself, but I wish people would stop discriminating and putting celebrities down about stuff that they literally can't change (unless you get leg lengthening PS which is really sus).
some of those translation sites just search for negative comments cause it brings more clicks and views. I wouldn't really take them seriously>>35185
there have been comments under every yg artist saying they're going to boycott but most yg artists still perform well like Lee Hi. it's been forever since Somi was relevant so there's no way to know how she'll do.
Why is everybody arguing that she wouldn't have made it in the west?
That's not the point here, fact is that she's no less talented than your average fully korean idol.
If she wasn't a foreigner, then her being pretty would be enough for them, but since she's half white they demand her to be more than just that.
yea i never took much note of her but i think her stage presence is good compared to most k-pop types. however her singing is ass. in that respect she's a lot like ITZY>>35227
i dont think that's totally true. uee was shat on countless times to the point where she hacked half her face bones off and became an ana-chan. seolhyun was the most amazing visual ever according to koreans for about two years, then her true (brown) skintone came out on a tv show and she got shitcanned. people hyped up hyeri for a while then they began to loathe her. koreans hate jessica because she now looks like 'fucking chinese'. you need TWICE or suzy-tier armour to avoid scrutiny
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So Sulli is having a solo debut and all I can say is…why?
Because SM knows people will hate-watch.
Also SM needs people to get off their back because of Lee Soo Man's tax evasion shit coming up again.
Needless to say, they will get away with it because they aren't as exceptional as YG
Honestly, I'm rooting for her solo because it will trigger
koreans so much. The cognitive dissonance they have over her is fucking unbelievable because she's so unconventional and problematic
so they hate her but yet she fits the Korean beauty standard and to them lookism is everything.
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explain to me how she is considered a visual i don't see it
some Koreans like the dead fish look I guess
minju is way more of a visual so I never understood the hype around hyewon at all, girl can't sing and has the charm of a beached horseshoe crab and yet they voted talented and pretty girls like yunjin out of the competition over her
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The dead fish eye thing is so accurate! Sulli has pretty prominent ones so I don't really find her attractive at all unless she has makeup on.
That girl next to her is an actress and her case is even worse but she got attention for looking like sulli. I just found her to be sickly looking in the drama tbh.
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Why do people praise this kind of body. It just makes me worry about their health rather than be jealous/in awe.https://pannative.blogspot.com/2019/06/lisas-pictures-at-airports-are.html?m=1
Girl is severely underweight. I'm actually surprised how she's the most energetic one out of the whole group when she's probably the thinnest one…
She probably has to get clothes from the kids section or something wtf
She has "thicker" legs and thighs so, relative to her band mates, she appears healthier. her fans act like she's a kardashian or something.
Props to her for fooling everyone into thinking she's curvy cause before all the pics without push-ups I really thought she had big boobs, and I had no idea butt pads were a thing in kpop.
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Jennie has always had thicker hips. I know nowadays because of BP being ana-chan a lot of it is hip padding but that's still her real shape
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Making young impressionable girls believe that idols have nice big tits and feminine hips while the rest is still stick thin and fat-free..how are they any better than instagram "baddies" or the kardashians.
I'm not going to front I kinda like the song but the video looked cheap and the outfits look really ugly. Some parts of The song kind of sounds like Electric from SHINee though.
The girl with the big ass forehead that looks like a lab rat with down syndrome aggravates me to no end though idek why.
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>suburban moms cosplaying blackpink vibes
just had to photoshop this
Twice is suffering from SNSD syndrome because their Japanese songs are less obnoxious than their Korean releases. The same shit happened with SNSD.
Also notice no Nasally MoMo.
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Serious question, why does it seem like, that only YG artists are to stupid to hide their drugconsumption?
I can´t think of another agency that has so many "scandals".
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That was quick.
This dude IS ikon. Everything in that group is about him and bobby. he also participates in the production and all I think. Nobody knows the rest of them so it's safe to say they're done. Now only bp and winner are left.
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Twitter meltdown incoming
YG simply is not in the position anymore to take more scandals. Especially not scandals with a high public interest like drugs. What is his alternative? He pretty much has none.
And correct me, if I´m wrong, isn´t iKon been seen as the unfaversome troublemakers from the beginning? I think I saw once an blogpost -or something like that - that talked about this.
I´m not aware of the scandals of the new boygroup, what happened?
If there would have been a chance to deny it, they would have, I guess. But appaerently the chatlog is real, a drugtest is easy to do and drugs are seen incredibly bad in the korean public eye. And after the Burning Sun scandal, which is not entirely over…
iKon is done, even though only B.I left. But it was always more "B.I and Bobby and the boys". Maybe Bobby can go solo, but iKon itself is over, I think.
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Would it really be YG if they didn't try to deny it at first?
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So, BIs dealer got arrested in 2016 and the texts are from back then, but BI didn't get arrested because YG paid for the dealers' lawyer, who in turn changed his statement about them and BIs business transactions.
Kek, YG has his hands in every cookiejar.
Geez, I thought it was recent, but in 2016?
So this in the end is more about the police sweeping this under the rug and YG bribing the dealer… interesting. So no wonder they didn´t try do deny it this time, but sweeping it under the rug again with B.I immediatly leaving iKon.
I honestly don't think that idols from other agencies could take anything illegal, it's just YG artists who all seem to think they're the bestest and the baddest and therefore act all "hood" while also being a Gucci queen/king.
All of them are so obnoxious and tryhard, no idea how anybody could like that. Them walking around on stage is not improvising or being true hip hop artists, they're only too lazy to dance.
And remember, it's not been that long ago that Top was caught - a normal Korean would have been punished severely - but beause of YG's media play and bribery (and because Top acted like a sad boi) he got away and barely lost any of his millions of asskissing fans.>>35381
I can't wait for the day Zico gets busted. Seolhyun's career got ruined because of him. How can anybody look at him and not see how sleazy and creepy he is? He's friends with everybody who's involved in the Seungri scandal, yet nobody thought of checking if he's done something too? At this point I think that he's rich enough to pay to silence people himself, without the help of his agency.
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Mino's so obvious, he got super haggard looking in a short period of time.
I honestly couldn't care less about idols taking drugs, the more "scandalous" part to me is the strings YG pulls in the police to cover this all up.
I'm wondering if JYP or SM are covering the same kind of shady shit up to this extent as well, all I know is SM has some tax-evasion scandals and JYP is in a cult(?).
Also, agreed about zico. I'm so surprised people online don't seem more sus about him, it feels almost obvious that he would be involved in a burning sun-type scandal as well.
I know a girl who's deep into Seoul's club scene, says Mino's well known for liking his drugs. Also says he's got a reputation for fucking foreign (Eastern European) girls because they're less likely to snitch to Dispatch about him.
I've got no proof, it's just gossip, so take it with a grain of salt I guess. I find it pretty easy to believe though.
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I never liked BI, he come off weird and tense, and he had most lines in songs with his unpleasant tone (not that the rest of Ikon doesn't serve shitty falsettos).
Introducing him as next GD and BI clearly believing the hype he's to become big solo star was a turn off as well, like GD's accomplished, chill, charming and somewhat pretty. Implying he's easily replaceable by BI was laughable.
I remember when people argued that he didn't like their new member, showing evidence like this gif, but his fans kept saying how he's just being playful.
He looks angry af there and he clearly has anger issues.
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I can't help but love the autism of (sea) stans in the comments of every single blackpink post lol
I really like sorn, she seems like an intelligent young woman. It's kinda sad they have to promote themselves through YouTube though.
She used to even edit and everything all by herself but idk about now
Did B.I. hit that person in the face and knocked his cap off? He didn't even look playful in that gif… lol did he have anger management issues?
Anyway, I agree with you. I don't like him either. From what I know, he was a shady character right from the start. His father was involved in scamming people and was caught and jailed. People literally protested having him debut but I guess Yg had a grand plan of making him gd 2.0 that's why he pushed through. From what I had watched too he seems to be yg's favorite because he seems reliable and even writes song for other groups.
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The power dynamic/age hierarchy makes the gif even sketchier. BI - older, yg's favorite, group leader, main producer is hitting youngest and newest addition to the group Chanwoo. And other Ikon members just watch and laugh.
Saying anything other than "BTS are the best in the entire world" is (career) suicide.
This guy jokingly tweeted that he dislikes them (as a "social experiment") and immediately got 9000 hate comments.>But it's ok you guys! You have to understand that BTS and Army are family, therefore they're just being protective! LOL
Ironically, they would not even need to themselves. They are thousands of blind and obsessive Army out there, who would kill for them, I'm sure.
Will still be interesting when the first dating scandal happens with one of the popular members.
I also met a girl who was into the club scene and met some kpop stars, this had to be about 2016 ish
She had some… choice words about bigbang. Now that I really think back on what she said (I'd almost forgotten it) I'm surprised I couldn't see BS coming from a mile away
didnt the most popular guy from winner leave too? tahyun or whatever and they were lucky the other guys had ~likable~ personalities enough to hold the group together? and now tahyun is trending again for pumping and dumping some attention whore actress who has started dragging his name through the mud again
as if he needed that after all that came out his first year or so in winner lol
i cant believe he still has fans
they're right up there with beyonce fans
honestly THAT would be a fight id love to see
praying they try to collab with her and she turns them down or something because that would be the ultimate meltdown we've been craving
nobody cares about where sugar is putting his dick into - we want some scandal from the maknaae line that would cause meltdown of the armys
also maybe something related to ratmon doing sleazy things - anything to bring them down from their garbage pedestal
there has been speculation that most of the time when something is going to come out, the people leaking it consult with the company it will affect beforehand(it was confirmed dispatch basically blackmails companies this way but i dont know anything about this specific rumor because i havent been online in a few days)
so maybe they already knew it was coming and he was already prepared to go
there was a blind item a few weeks ago about a popular idol group member that tested positive for drugs but the story for that one was different iirc. I could be remembering it wrong>>35467
dispatch seems really set on yg groups at the moment so I think they would've released it either way.
There might be more shit he's trying to hide; it's possible that he didn't want more things about him or his parents to surface.
A more plausible explanation however would be that he knows he has no other choice cause people hate yg AND b.i (there was something about this dad).
I think that’s where Dispatch comes in. There’s nothing to bother covering up if there isn’t any evidence.
Like, Key has never had any scandals (despite… you know), but he also seems super conscious of and careful with his idol image. (That said, when rumors reached a fever pitch, they abruptly abandoned ToHeart)
Kai… not so much (someone insert that photo of him smoking a joint in the middle of a field)
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Very possible kai and taemin are being used to appeal to that whole ~skinship shipping~ subset of fans.
I feel that was TaeNy's purpose in snsd too.
i was fully expecting hand holding to appear in one of these photos lmao. Anyway I think its all on purpose. I dont believe they're gay.
Do you guys think the companies know about which of their idols are gay and protect them by putting them in fake hetero relationships?
That's what they do in soccer so it's not entirely impossible.
Because none of SM's actual scandals have really come to light yet?
I feel it may have been a trade off tbh.
SM's day is coming eventually. There was a lot of shit going on with SNSD that I believe hasnt come out yet and when it does its going to put the final nail in the OT9 coffin, which is going to cost them a LOT of money. And I believe SM has tried really hard to keep it quiet for whatever reason. The truth about Jessica, and why the other girls were literally being punished by the company(and eventually left minus the few) HAS to come out eventually. And I have a feeling Taeyeon has dealt with some shit too. Theres been a lot of stuff said over the years that really makes me side eye SM and how they've dealt with her and her depression and possible traumas that she has alluded to. I'll be perched.
kai's ladykiller image seems way more staged and fake to me. i think sm would be way more invested in protecting his heterosexual masc image than deflecting rumors for more blatantly flaming members.
in b4 >ew gross fujoshi ruin everything<; not an exo-l (too old), but in a large creative arts organization or a boyband, i would be shocked if everyone was heterosexual.
sm seems too straightlaced to allow for a yg drug scandal, and there is no existing template for navigating a gay scandal. it's never been done with a major idol, it's ruined the careers of the few non-idol's who've been caught, and it's grounds for exemption from military service–can you even imagine the toxicity of a gay draft-dodging scandal??
it's one of the main reasons i think that some of the more flamboyant talent have been reluctant to come out or even acknowledge lgbt anything; even of it's an open secret amongst fans and fujo fangirls would love it, the army thing would kill their careers.
I honestly don't think Sehun will end up jobless. He'll most likely become a model. If anybody is gonna be jobless after Exo is Xiumin,and Suho (and I wanna say Chanyeol but idk)>>35488
Why would they do that when companies are fully aware of the catastrophic result of dating scandals? That would be shooting themselves in the foot. In the end companies would lose a lot of money because the fans would be really upset and ditch xyz idol(s)thus practically ending said idol's career which equals lost revenue for the company.
(And besides Sehun literally said he likes men and yet SM hasn't put him in a fake hetero relationship idk)
I really only think companies do that sort of thing to divert attention from other ongoing scandals.
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I made a post spilling shit years ago in >>>/ot/194292
but I was too afraid to say any names.
>mfw Member B was Seungri and his good friend was Jung Joon-young.
The girl is really scared that she is starring in one of the homevideos now.
I am totally here for a critical tea thread with rampant speculation and zero demands for receipts
and no “not my opppaaaaaaaaaa” stan distraction techniques
I s2g that I'm not a fan but they look SO much better with this lighting as opposed to the lighting used on Korean shows. They look less creepy for some reason? Maybe it's the lack of whitewashing and blurring that makes them actually look human. Imo some of them are actually kind of cute.>>35350
Kim Soo Hyun just had an article about his millitary service coming to an end. Lots of comments were very excited to see him come back.
As for Lee Jong Suk, I don't care about him (personally) because he's literally a plastic monster along with Yoo In Na and I cannot watch those two play ordinary people in dramas.
I wish we had a kdrama thread but idk how many of you watch them.>>35353
Kinda happy for CLC that they were able to revive interest in their group.
But am I alone though in thinking that "Me" sounds like a song meant for 4Minute before they broke up? It kinda sounds like 4Minute's last song "Hate." I mean I like the song but it feels like CLC is basically now picking up where 4Minute left off, and that may be the reason for their success but eh, idc. I'm just glad that not everyone is doing cutesy or tryhard-sexy or anorexic girl crush concepts.>>35377
He was like the Jennie of iKON so I'm kinda shook. >>35400
Ik this is about his singing but NCT winning is kek worthy. They definitely robbed an empty house this time around.>>35434
Bom's "drug scandal" was for psychiatric medication. CL probably smokes weed or has smoked it at least while in America. >>35502
I don't know much about the videos taken at the clubs.
This was all back in 2016, before Burning Sun, but around the time Monkey Museum opened. I never really liked her, so we don't keep in contact anymore, but we still have a friend in common, who told me that she was panicking about the burning sun scandal.>>35514>>35516
Not really much, I don't really keep in contact with many in that group of friends anymore.
Yuri's older brother wrote to my friend though, after they hadn't spoken together in at least a year. He said he wanted to visit her in her country and if he could stay with her. This was right before he got seriously involved in the Burning Sun scandal, so we have been speculating if he was trying to escape.
Sorry, I'm not sure if I made myself clear, but when I say seriously involved in the Burning Sun Scandal, I mean before the media started reporting about him also having done stuff.
Seungri, JJY and Yuri's older brother were all good friends, doing shady stuff together, as most people know by now.
> 1. [+4,014, -42] What I found the most disturbing about his Katalk conversation is the part where he mentioned that he does drugs to become a genius. That's not an idea that comes from personal experience. He obviously saw a famous star around him use drugs and have it lead to success and maybe even went around telling people that it was a source of inspiration for themselves, which is probably how BI came to that conclusion himself. Can't help but think that especially since he's under YG too. Anyway, this all just feels like YG cutting BI is just cutting the scandal at its tail.
First: is GD getting officially cancelled soon?
Also tbh I agree with this:> 9. [+160, -23] I just feel bad for him. Yes, I agree that he did something wrong and that he should take responsibility for that but he's still young and talented, and he also worked hard too. He's lost it all now over a moment of poor judgment. I just find it so weird that these kids start committing crimes the minute they join YG. A lot of them are naturally talented so I'm wondering if YG is putting them under a lot of pressure and possibly even providing criminal ways to escape that stress. YG has stood behind GD, TOP, Kush etc, so for them to cut BI out just seems like they're trying to cut the scandal at its tail.
I actually feel bad for B.I if his self-esteem was so low that he'd think he could only write music on drugs when he's probably just emulating what "Jiyong-hyung" has probably said for years now.
We all know that GD is doing drugs harder than weed but YG is for sure paying people off to save his golden boy.
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Anon youre a god
So basically from your original post, the one from years ago, we can assume member C is GD and member A is Taeyang as an ex-VIP fag I am surprised you had nothing on TOP.
From my old post:
Boygroup 1 is Bigbang
Member A is Taeyang
Member B is Seungri and his friend is Jung Joon-young
Member C is GD
The backup dancer is/was a YG backup dancer, can't remember his name, but it was back when YG dancers also had fans following them around
Boygroup 2 is Exo
Rnb singer is obviously Jay Park lol
I'm sure there was stuff about TOP as well, but I didn't hear anything. Despite most of the stuff being about Bigbang, I heard the stuff from different sources.
The Taeyang stuff I know because I was friends with his ex-gf, the Seungri stuff I know because I was acquainted with the girl he pumped and dumped, and the GD stuff I knew because I was friends with a stage director who worked with YG and SM groups.
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>>35532> Member C is GD
lol there's really nothing
there.. that goes for any guy really who wears tight leather pants on regular basis- so pretty much every male idol.
Yeah, it all happened while I was on exchange in SK lol.
It basically started with my friend sugardating the CEO of the Asian region of a pretty big clothing brand. She met him at Octagon. He was much older than her (and me) and he wasn't really that fun, but he was loaded. The brand sponsored lots of groups back then, so he was friends with a lot of industry insiders. Through my friend, I met the stage director she knew through her Sugardaddy, through the stage director I met new friends, and through them etc, etc, etc. It was basically an avalanche.
It all peaked with me being graciously allowed to party with some of the people from AMOG and I was allowed to visit their studio. It's pretty embarrassing, thinking back about it now.
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Blurring out my friends messages because they are irrelevant. So is his tbh.
i see no reason to doubt the op–why not, even for fun? she's not being defensive after being called out on the legitimacy of her story and posted proof that would be dumb to fabricate.
imo people who have never been around rampant drug use don't believe it. there's a naive concept of what a high functioning drug user looks like. plus a little "oh no, not my oppas!!" in regards to exo.
rich people love cocaine and people around rich people almost always have access to it. it's a status symbol since it's so expensive per gram, and while it can be dangerous (meaning instantly toxic
and life-threatening), it usually isn't. cocaine mostly just makes you feel like a brilliant asshole on top of the world for 45 minutes, which flows wonderfully into kpop and any other entertainment industry requiring performative narcissism (or a denial of vulnerability and boundaries). it's quick to snort, meaning it can be easily done backstage or between shifts or whatever, but if a bunch of people are doing it a large quantity, it's not going to be neat, and cleaning up a bunch of residue would be enough of a bitch to gossip about. the reason why people use glass tables in 70s movies like scarface is just that–smooth surface, easy to corral into lines and easy to clean up.
speed is way more common in east asia, but it can also be snorted like cocaine. (if you don't want that yoochun aesthetic) i can see a less knowledgable passerby not being able to tell the difference.
~i want to believe~ u OP
Unfortunately not. She only sent me his first messages and was like 'wtf does he want', and then she texted me without screenshots that he asked her if he could visit.
If you google his name on kakaotalk, Lars 연오 권, you'll still see links to his old instagram, but he deleted his insta after the media started reporting about him and his daterape habits, so the links will be dead. >>35555
Thanks anon, kek. At least we got something else than Yutas chin to discuss, amirite.
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We could always just talk about gd's chin if we get bored….
Jokes aside, I'm also glad there's something different to discuss for now, even if it may not all be completely accurate
>>35570>tfw you got dragged there once by your uni classmates and had the worst night of your life
In 2014 it was already a cesspool of drunk girls who look like prostitutes, rich assholes in private rooms and wannabe rich assholes on the dance floor. I remember waiting it out near the entrance with a classmate while the two others were litterally whoring themselves out for a seat and drinks in the vip rooms. The vibe was so sleazy, I'm not surprised bad shit happens there.
I also remember there was an idol present because people kept pointing at him but I had no idea about that shit at the time so I can't give his name.
Looking back it was so dangerous even to just enter that place.
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someone necroed an old kpop related thread and i came across this cursed image again. army twitter is a dark place. this is so ridiculous and ironic it hurts
This sounds like a demo or somethin. That rap verse and the chanting in the prechorus makes me laugh.
Nitpick but why have they used both french and
spanish? I get the spanish but then they keep singing voulez-vous as well. They're just using any old lyrics, what a joke.
I take everything from HSHs mouth with a grain of salt, until it is proven.
But yepp, I would love her to spill some more tea!
fav back at it again. She's exposing all these men's dirt and I love it. I don't know if I should be happy or not by the fact that someone like her doesn't consider herself a feminist anymore.
He dated twice as a young adult, that doesn't have to mean that he's obsessed with female attention.https://pann-choa.blogspot.com/2019/06/enter-talk-real-time-buzz-that-bi-is.html>I'm seriously curious to know, do these people turn out like that because of YG or were they accepted in YG because they were originally like that…
I wonder about that too.>That's why you can't make ugly kids rise. because they suddenly blow up and receive stuff they would've never been able to receive otherwise and their egos just explode.
Kind of true, thanks to dumb stans Seungri also thinks he's a god despite being completely void of attractiveness and talent. Same for all those rappers.
Really she's not a feminist anymore? Spotted a few ppl on twt ranting about her being a terf/transphobic.
God, I love her. She's def the key to bringing down YG. I bet she has so much dirt on everyone in this industry.
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Yeah she posted this back then. It was so refreshing to see but then she said she quit so I don't think she had any genuine concern for that, it was probably just another tool to get some attention. >>35601
Male idols are so fucking dumb and insensitive to give expensive gifts from fans to their gfs. It's basically them and their gfs saying fuck you to the female fans.
I wish these fans would spend that money on themselves…
What attitude? I don't know much about him so I'm asking out if curiosity
I know that he once said girl group dances were easier when he was with one of gfriend's (?) members on a show or something.
most of the time they are easier cause men get triggered
to see girls dance aggressively and energetically.
They also perform in uncomfortable clothes and heels most of the time but he wouldn't know wthat; he doesn't even sing while dancing.
Yerin claimed that Gfriend's dances are the most difficult of all girl group dances, but after she showed them, first the hosts of that show and then Kai and Lizzy from After School said that it didn't look difficult at all.
Afterwards mouthbreathing Griend stans tried to make it into a misogynist issue, when it's actually Yerin herself who looked down on all other girl groups. Her dancing was absolutely laughable, all of them were rightfully making fun of her, especially Lizzy.
What's Somi's age again? She looks 20 in this and the school girl outfit makes me uncomfortable as fuck.
The video is pretty nice but the song is meh. Could've been worse tho, I guess.
Meghan trainor and Taylor swift have called, they want their 2014 songs back.
Honestly no amount of autotune can save that terrible voice of hers.
Are we really still surprised about pedobait?>>35619
Generic and boring af, I agree. Also with that it will propably not flop…
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I was confused too because it was blocked by yg on copyrights grounds but then it was back and playable. >>35606
Sounds similar to mambo no. 5 by lou bega
This unironically sounds like an AKB48 song.>>35606
The choreo reminds me of Soap from Melanie Martinez. The song's really boring, even Sunmi has catchier songs.
Really seems like AKS are just handing them rejected 48/46 group songs.
Also, is it just me or are Kpop MVs getting noticeably cheaper and increasingly low effort?
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IOI are rumoured to be reuniting but Somi and the WJSN girl ain't gonna be in it. You could say that Somi isn't doing it cos she got her solo soon but Chungha also has a new single soon and she's gonna be there so.
I can tell Somi's single will be a hot mess cos the music sucks and her outfits are so ugly (pic related from her showcase)
Maybe yg didn't allow it.
Apparently she didn't sing during her showcase. What's up with that?
Yeah, no idea why >>35608
tried to defend pedobait gfriend lol
I remember when this first came out, nobody was blaming Lizzy anyway, only Kai. But after people watched the video, it quickly died down again. Only retarted ifans with their "uwu it hurt her feelings, the effort counts" still care.
I don't understand why they always try to push gfriend as "different"; in korea they're only known for their busted ps and their fanbase consists of 90% uncle
I defended girl groups for having "easier" dances, not gfriend.
My post wasn't even about the dances, I just asked that anon why people think Kai attitude problems… jeez…
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Wtf is up with this outfit they slapped Momo in for the Breakthrough MV? The top fits her so poorly and is just straight up awkward looking. It looks like it's sized for a woman with a chest 2 cups sizes bigger.
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The stuffing on Jihyo is also atrociously obvious in this KCon LA performance. What gives? Why can't they do it subtly?
I've always hated her voice but she actually doesn't sound bad up until that "chorus." Her voice is a lot more listenable for me than BlackPink.
Anons are right about this song being like 4 years old and probably a scrapped demo meant for Meghan Trainor. Yikes. She should have gone for something 'younger' than singing about shaking her ass.
I wonder why YG even bothers in the kpop industry, it looks like he only gives his idols comebacks to cover scandals or make him money for his shady dealings. The rest of the time he just leaves them to fade into obscurity. At this point his company just feels like a giant front for all this disgusting shit he's apparently involved in.
If YG wasn't already established as a big 3 company, it would have flopped a long time ago, just based off their shitty management.
i hope to see the complete downfall of this company within the next few years. A catalyst for this would be the loss of teddy-whether it's cause he's tired or no longer wants to be in yg, or because he'll be exposed for being involved in this whole drug thing.
Pretty much every yg song is produced by this dude and his songs always manage to do well.
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I did not know that, I thought she came forward on her own.>[+1,373, -131] Why would you reveal her identity? She's already paid the price of her crime.. she reported him as a form of public service. Now this is just going to make more people afraid to come forward in case they get outed like this.>[+2,177, -30] What an amazing country we live in. She reported this anonymously and still got her identity outed.>[+1,082, -21] How much did YG bribe everyone for them to reveal her identity like this? https://netizenbuzz.blogspot.com/2019/06/han-seohee-indirectly-confirms-that.html>When asked by MBC 'News Desk' regarding claims that Yang Hyun Suk had threatened her to take back her testimony on BI, Han Seohee replied, "It's exactly what you're thinking. What's the point in saying anything. You honestly know what happened, right? It's exactly as the news says.">In another interview with Han Seohee's lawyer Bang Jung Hyun, the lawyer revealed that Yang Hyun Suk had threatened Han Seohee by saying, "It's easy to put you at a disadvantage. They can test our artists for drugs immediately and they won't turn up positive. Not only do we test them for drugs regularly but if we do find drugs in their system, we send them to Japan to remove all traces of it."
>[+2,324, -12] Meanwhile Naver is YG's stockholder and they're changing all the article titles to focus on Han Seohee and not Yang Hyun Suk.
I hope she doesn't mind or at least isn't scared of the current situation she's in, and instead reveals more. How glorious would that be, YG Entertainment and with it a huge part of the kpop industry destroyed by somebody like her lol
they've tried to branch out to more things than just idols but most of their attempts have flopped so they stick with what they know will bring cash.>>35692
she's a rich girl from a well off family. if she was really scared she wouldn't have been poking the bear last year. I think she'll be fine unless YG gets super desperate lol.
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speaking of jihyo, i personally don't think she looks great with the extreme weight loss, she's starting to get this wendy william-ish body shape: thin legs/lower body and bigger chest/shoulders/upper body. it's not really noticeable in screenshots but you can kind of see it in the fancy dance practice and live stages.
I thought my earphones were not properly plugged but it was just the quality of their sound. Did someone actually made a mistake and uploaded the unfinished song or something?
Anyway… why Buenos Aires? Are they just going to start naming random places in the world for a song?
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I can't believe it took all this shit for him to finally leave. Good riddance though I doubt YG entertainments reputation will ever recover
I really hope he is not getting himself out of it with this. Knowing how fucked Koreas judiciary works and how many ties he has…
And in the end his brother is still CEO and keeps bringing the money in, which would still partly go to YHS, if he is able to safe YG Entertainment.
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Oh shit, YGs brother is resigning as well.
However if they don't dissolve their stocks they will still be major shareholders and will continue to hold most of the influence of the company. They can basically continue to run the company from the shadows.
How can he leave, he is YG, he is the problem! I bet he takes all the money he made and then fucks off to some nice sunny island, he will never have to face any punishment.
Also, Han Seohee revealed that a guy from Winner is involved (was that already posted?). Now the only group who hasn't done anything (that we know of) is Blackpink.
She really did what no one else could. I wonder if the public will have a different view of her now? I know she's problematic
and all that but that girl is honestly giving no fucks whatsoever and I'm here for it.
I hope others who have shit on the industry will follow her and do the same
Most comments are positive, everybody obviously wants her to expose everything. Many say that she's a druggie, but already got her punishment and now she's doing everybody a huge favor.
It seems like ifans hate her more, because she insulted Top oppar and is transphobic lol
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Anyone else find WJSN's new mv cringey? They're trying really hard to come off as sweet silly waifus. I like WJSN, they haven't come off this tryhard like Twice until this release.
>>35764>they haven't come off this tryhard
They have, since day 1.
Trying to hype up their debut with "the female exo!" and then having that heavier girl do the splits in every single tv show is cringy.
Damn, they both really have to shit their pants right now.>>35755
I agree, unless their popularity would for whatever reason go downhill from now an, but bighit knows very well, that Jungkook is by far the biggest milkcow from BTS. When Jin and Suga enlist next year, maknae line and especially JK will be thrown into solos, even though it would be very, very healthy for JK to be seperated from BTS and be surrounded by normal folks>>35767
yepp, that was the reason last year broke this discussion about enlistments and exceptions once again.
Lol what a bunch of delulus. AS IF they would go on a hiatus at the peak of their success
Idk when suga has to serve but if it's 2021/22 they could maybe make all the rappers enlist together & make a subunit with the maknae line cause they're the most popular anyways
Then maknae line serves together and make a rapper subunit with…jin lolololol
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That's a longass time for bj lips. He already can't dance nowadays, what is he gonna do in his 30s?
They probably turn out like Suju, at first extremely famous with an absolutely crazy fanbase and then one scandal after scandal.
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What's up with them only collabing with sexy adult American flop singers though. It's been going on since Idol.
Is BI trying to fish for the male fans or something? I can't see how that's a smart move considering most of the fanbase is prudish teen girls.
Wow, this is really happening. We need the anon who did the crab rave video for Seungri getting busted, to do it again for this one kek>>35748
Next thread should be called "All hail Queen Han Seohee" edition
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Place your bets, who will be revealed to be involved next??
It depends on the division, police and softer divisions have like 19-20 months but the rest are still around 2 years. It's gonna take a while until service lengths are shortened
Anyway, BTS being gone for even 9-10 months would help loosen the cultlike hold they have over their fans because they'd shrivel up ans die without constant Twitter updates from their boys
Maybe YG paid off the police to end her probation so she wouldn't spill the beans. Too bad for him because she spoke up and blessed us all with mess anyway, "problematic
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someone should shoop her face onto this
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you fucking bitches. yes i hugged and kissed your oppas. you can't do anything about it, right? losers.
- han seo hee
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Thread pic submission. YG comes tumbling down tumbling down tumbling dooown edition.
Yeah you were right. Fake "wokes" on twitter are back to policing people they don't agree with. They don't even mention that she exposed these druggies. they just want everyone to hate her because she's an evil terf.
They could for once not deviate from the actual issue that is going on but that's too much to ask them I guess. Fucking hate twitter.
LMAO YG STANS ON SUICIDE WATCH
CL got the last laugh
The radfem in me is smiling with joy. All those years of trying to slander her as a Megallia "evil feminist" backfired on them when she said she gave no fucks. Sadly, this was only possible because she's part of a chaebol family.
I wonder what dirt she has on blackpink, since they all seem to be in the "I'm wealthy because of daddy's money" clique.
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Translation: "don't expose my oppa for being a criminal. "
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why is this seungri stan so butthurt? i don't think hsh is homophobic but what's the "supports the rape of little boys" thing about?
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This entire week has been a field day, to Somi and YG taking an L and disgusting men getting expose. The only thing missing is a BTS scandal provided by dispatch.
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I think they're referring to megalia, a Korean radfem site. This wiki article might help.
Already attention whoring huh?
I guess JYP was right about character.
She should just stop the idol thing tbh. If she wants to be a celebrity she can become a model or something there. People don't find her charming anymore.
I don't know why she left jyp but I feel like it's cause her or her dad thought she's too good(or too famous) for a group so she wanted a solo but jyp obviously didn't like the idea.
And now it's really the worst time for her debut cause everybody's attention is on yg himself.
This comment tho>[+38, -0] Her career ended when she lost her debut timing. Her image is already used up and while she looks pretty now, she has white genes that will accelerate her aging. She doesn't have the freshness that newly-debuted idols have… and she's under YG, so farewell…
They really seethe a lot over her white genes…
I feel so sorry for her…she's been groomed since she was a child, she never learned anything other than trying to be an idol and now as soon as she turns 18 people say she's no longer charming, just because YG was rushing her debut and letting her take the hit for this and the other disgusting things that went on in his company. >>35844
How about we don't trust the opinion of some creep who whores young girls out to "uncle" fans? His idea of good character is probably Sana acting dumb while lifting her skirt.
>>35853>How about we don't trust the opinion of some creep who whores young girls out to "uncle" fans?
Exactly. Honestly for all of the people blaming Somi for leaving JYP, it's just as likely that he considered her too old to front the new group. Here's my speculation; He likes his center/visual girls to be as pedobait-y as he can get away with. He probably decided Yuna was his new golden child and dumped Somi. And after all, if he debuted the new group with Somi in it but not center, he'd get critique. Easier just to cut her loose.>>35851>They really seethe a lot over her white genes…
Knetz being racist and shitty, must be a day that ends in "Y". I honestly don't think too much of her looks (I find her to look like a less pretty Lena Fuji or Leah Dizon), but you know most of them would likely give their right arm to look like her.
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I vote for this. The next thread pic has to have Han Seohee in it.>>35828>>35835
Tbh I want to buy something from Han Seohee's clothing line if it's still around just so I can support more tea spillage. Also because she's a radfem and I support her lack of fucks given.
Praying for some dirt on Blackpink.
I also made this shitty gif so enjoy.
They worship somebody like Irene although she has had ps and is 28 (and looks it), but 10 year younger Somi is "used up" because muh bad white genes?
The commentors on netizenbuzz also hate her so much, the top comment is "Boycott YG", they say it's her own fault etc, but on articles about Blackpink they only praise them and say they're victims
. I wonder if it's SEAs or american tumblrinas…
People are allowed to feel sorry for somi because she obviously has horrible parents and was a minor until just a few days ago. The amount of hate she receives from both koreans and ifans is disproportional. We also pity young fully korean idols. The comments she gets from koreans are disgusting and racist - you cannot compare that to us making fun of Gucci Jennie's laziness or BTS obnoxiousness.
If somebody wrote this>Her career ended when she lost her debut timing. Her image is already used up and while she looks pretty now, she has white genes that will accelerate her aging. She doesn't have the freshness that newly-debuted idols have… and she's under YG, so farewell…
just replaced with "asian genes" and "short/ugly", then ratmies would get this person doxxed and fired.
knetz shit on white genes a lot for a group of people who want white features imo (pls no racebait)>>35870
i'm putting my money on bom and hyolyn (and trudey because I can see her doing that shit to finish her "american" cosplay) but if mino is involved I would not be surprised if like half of Block B was involved also
>>35875>If somebody wrote this… just replaced with "asian genes" and "short/ugly", then ratmies would get this person doxxed and fired.
Makes no sense and I'm not just talking about Somi
>We also pity young fully korean idols.>We
Speak for yourself, anon, because the rest of the thread doesnt. Anons were nitpicking that 16 year old from nct and Wonyoung just a couple weeks ago.
Nayrt but fuck, the point that anon is trying to make is that insisting an 18 year old is washed up because of "prematurely aging white genes" is racist af and a shitty stereotype akin to Asians being short and ugly (obviously not true).
No one is nitpicking WY for her appearance just the fact that at 13 when she won produce she is pedobait and her company leans into it. As for the Nct dude, anons have an almost Pavlovian reaction to them as a whole. Bring up that group and an anon will shit on them.
bts is probably panicking… all the English language collabs they arranged last year are already so dated & out of touch with the hot 100 that all they do is validate their ifans… their army dates are coming up and they’re running out of time… the elusive embrace of genuine international superstardom is slipping through their fingers as the clock ticks faster…
Public, milky member meltdowns are inevitable at this point. It’s only a matter of months and continued saesang pressure
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The woke complex with kpop agencies (which the Western media is abetting by representing BTS as LGBT kings and combating toxic masculinity, because k-physical sales and k-clickbait are so lucrative) is so transparently about transforming the image of the k-industry away from its former perception here as a corrupt slave shop. This is why you see Seungri/YG fans flinging the TERF shit everywhere to shut people up.
I'm honestly at the point where I think shit like the cultural appropriation scandals are largely staged to get attention especially from groups with woke fans like Mamamoo. Because most people sucked into the outrage still end up in the k-hole
Why would mamamoo stage something like that for attention tho? The girls barely know a lick of english, they're unfortunately ignorant like most (all?) idols and their company is not international oriented at all.
With the blackface thing they removed the video in question in a matter of a couple of hours, released an apology and apologised in concert the next day too.
I doubt any company would want the negative attention if they knew about racist issues or gave a shit about it.
If you like kpop you have to close your eyes at all the ignorant shit that goes on, you can't screech about cultural appropriation when the whole industry is just recycled american culture
you cant get a job anywhere that you dont submit a headshot first
its almost more required than a degree of any sort
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i don't really keep up w BTS so i'm curious if people have footage of jungkook displaying his dumb-as-rocks-ness? i've heard about him not completing school in sacrifice for his career and about how he's apparently dumb and here he is admitting it LOL
He sounds like a mix between an old man on the verge of dying from extreme thirst and somebody with a bag of dicks Lodge in their throat. Very unpleasant indeed.
Anons are there any idols who's voice your personally hate?
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i love a lot of male singers in different genres and i even like cringy western boybands vocals but i honest to god CANNOT distinguish between male voices in kpop at all. the people from shinee and 100% sound most distinct to me but everything else sounds like an indistinguishable mess. with the female groups i only get this feeling from the produce 101/48 factory line garbage
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sorry if this has already been talked about but has anyone else noticed jennie gets the most "exposing" outfits? do you think she decides this or the YG staff decide this for her? and in this case it's not like she's super tall and they don't fit her right; she's one of the shorter members
Jihyo, she strains so hard. The other members are terrible but Jihyo would never be a main vocal in any other group other than Twice.
BlackPink, all of them have horribly unpleasant tones aside from Lisa who's just kind of there.
Any nasally male singer who shrieks out unnecessary high notes without any technique whatsoever like Jimin of BTS.
Nasal king, Jinhwan from iKON. I remember watching that iKON show and wishing that Junhoe would be the main vocal because Jinhwan's voice is so grating.
Also Jimin of AOA, her voice is squeaky and irritating.
This actually just made me remember that Jinhwan and Jimin from AOA had a dating scandal at one point. Maybe now that their groups are dying, they can make a duo reminiscent of Alvin and the Chipmunks.
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extra chromosome lookin ass
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I agree with you about his stage presence. But in my opinion, him touching his face up and botching it isn't the reason he was not as popular and won't contribute to his popularity. The "original" face he had predebut seems okay for 'normal people standards' but he is ugly in korean "idol" standards so I doubt he'll be popular without doing any ps like you claim he'll be. He was called the visual hole of bts since way back and was nicknamed "horsey".
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As long as no one takes a side profile photo of his flat-ass-head, he'll be fine