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>what is transwashing
Transwashing is when a character is forcefully made into trans, even if they're just gnc, homosexual, or crossdressing. When a character dresses or behaves in a way outside of the gender stereotype associated with their biological sex, oftentimes fandoms (and, even the creators themselves to appear "woke") start perceiving them as trans. And, sometimes, even if those characters don't have "any sign of being trans", some people's head-canons becomes too out of control and fall into the gender ideology. This unfortunately happens to real people too.
Post those characters, discuss why they're transwashed, and vent if you want to. Please don't infight and ignore any shitty bait.
1. The other thread is still alive.
2. At least pick a different character for the OP. This is just pure laziness or you're obsessed.
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>>324530>>324525>Not op but Naoto is a transwashed icon
And Felix or Astolfo are even bigger ones. Your autistic obsession is not helping these threads.
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Weak. He's only 'porny' to you because you saw too much porn of him. In the series itself he isn't a fanservice character. If what others do with characters in fan creations can 'taint' them for you, I'm chuckling at your inability to enjoy 99% of media content.
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In fairness, Felix (after therapy) would be pretty funny.
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For the Enstars fans, someone in the subreddit asked why people use she/her for Arashi and I was really surprised to see this as the most upvoted answer, instead of someone just saying Arashi is canon trans. Besides this there were also many other comments saying they just saw him as a feminine man that weren't downvoted to oblivion. I was kind of shocked because the English fandom is so militant about him but there's only a few people insisting he's a trans woman. Do you think the attitudes are slightly changing?
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Traps and femboys are a moid fetish and cringe meme. Into the garbage they go along with their disgusting coomers. Also Bridget trooning out is what they deserved for being degenerates now it's less fappable to them while taking in that copium still believing it's a boy.
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>>324561>stop liking what I dislike!
Childish. If something triggers
you, you can just hide the posts instead of backseat modding. Not your personal Discord server, so you just have to accept that people are going to post stuff you hate. Learn to get along on a chan.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
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Sorry I won't give validation on things that give moids boners especially on a female centric anonymous board. You could've just hide or ignore my post if disliking traps and femboys triggers
you or the fact that they're coom garbage. Not everyone is gonna like them despite how loved and popular they are with moids and degenerates.
Felix (after therapy) isn't a trap.
He goes back to dressing as a man 24/7.
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My boy here. Literally refers to himself as male in game and his whole story is being forcefully raised as a girl by his deranged dad, then stops pretending when his dad dies. Still the trannies say he is a tranny and misgender him
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Also relating to this
Goddamn I just wanted to look at Yotsuba fanart.
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troon hands arent allowed in my moe anime
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You're the one presenting as unhinged. If moids liking something makes it impossible for you to enjoy it, it's a mental illness.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
The KyoAni fandom is degen by default. Have you been living under a rock? >>324658
Mixing hetero and homo routes in a dating game is a terrible business idea, unless you target it at men, who will fap to anything.
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>>324659>liking traps and femboys>mental illness
You were saying? Defend this moidshit all you want but that won't change my mind or others for disliking them. This is some pickme behavior. Also I've already been enjoying some media that's already been tainted by scrotes so I dunno where you got that idea from.
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I hate when umi fans try to say shit like "Umineko is about a trans woman!" I giggle because they tell it on themselves.
In reality Yasu is the result of an incestuos father-daughter relationship, he was born male but got in an accident as a newborn, he needed a sex reassignment surgery (lol what a load of bullshit) and he was raised as a girl to hide everything from the head master of all. When Yasu finds this out, he has a mental breakdown and uses his imagination of being "Beatrice" as a massive coping mechanism and has power delusions
If this is the true trans rep they want so much, it's not much different from the actual story of that pedo John Money who butched a child's circumcision and the parents tried to raise that poor child as a girl.
I wouldn't want to be represented by this to be fucking honest. Umineko it's a tragic love story, not a trans allegory ffs.
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retards really will troon any male character just because he's short huh
It's basically 1 person who likes traps. They always post astolfo. They do it in other threads too, it's better to just ignore them>>324602
I never understand why TiMs claim characters like this and Bridget if they explicitly state they don't like presenting as a woman. Wouldn't it make more sense for them to be TiFs? Why do men have to claim every single trans character as their own?
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Here is her husbando chart that she posted on here ages ago.>she is very insistent for anons here to accept scroteshit and would go autismo mode to those that oppose her. She also goes to 4chan too.
Along with having an typing style that's very much abrasive and an holier then thou attitude towards anons that she deems to be inferior and unintelligent based on their opinions. the average 4chinner behaviour.
>>324738>They're latching on to fuckin Godfather of all film series
Literally why?>>324749>Anji Mito
We'll at least she has good taste
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Kek as if
tbf it's mostly the one tif since the fandom has very little cintent. but as to why i think it's because yiffanies just can't see a short vaguely attractive guy without wnating to troon him. michael as played by al pacino is like 5ft5.
anything under 5ft8 gets the tif treatment because they cope about being too shrot to pass as male. you hardly ever see a tall tif
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>Let's say Dazai, a dangerous mafioso who wants to find a woman to die together with is a secret FTM, even more because he calls himself "watashi" rather than "boku", what can go wrong?
A lot can go wrong, fandom. A lot.
He uses "watashi", according to a trivia, likely because of the format of traditional novels, which the real Dazai specialized in, typically used formal watashi pronouns over its variants.
And even then, it would be like the Yamato situation: She uses "male pronouns" out of respect, not because she feels she's a real men.
I stg these people have no idea how pronouns work in Japan in general and its shows.
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Forgive me the rant but I rarely socialize anymore so that stuff is still new to me. Joined a big 2D robot related discord a while ago. Half of the users are sadly male, but to my surprise it's mostly chill and even gay ships can be discussed. Most users (female and male) discuss the plots and speculate which is what I am here for because the women only discords I know about are sadly infested with OOC uwu talk, coffee shop AUs and nobody even reads the very series they are fan of for some reason.
Anyway the new discord was okay but then one shithead starts posting about Rodimus, a male MC of a Transformer comic, to explain that "HER" being so popular was the "power of estrogen". I am too retarded and not online enough to get what they mean so I literally had to read it four times till I understood that they consider him a transwoman for absolutely no reason.
The audacity you need to have to not just talk about this like a headcanon you have but outright pretend that it was real in front of 100 other users. I cannot consider this anything but mentally ill lol. Not only the idea itself but that you wouldn't be aware of the fact that it's just your personal AU bullshit.
I clicked the carrd of course, I knew that every genderspecial has a carrd: "fatcatgirl" (guess that's a self-description), "cat/clover/shiny" (no idea what that means), 30s (so it's not a teen issue I guess), she/they, "trans lesbian" (lmao), ADHD, Autistic, "Proship DNI". Guess they all sound the same regardless of the type of trans they are.
So far I rather only read about this on lc and Rodimus isn't even one of my favs (more into the big brutes), but to my surprise it pisses me off more than I thought regardless, how do you all survive this shit on a daily base if you are into twinks and handsome young anime men?
Leave the poor bots alone! Suprised that the shithead didn't get kicked out as TF fans are often hardcore from what I've interacted with last and not flakes like the shithead you mentioned. They must have been afraid of kicking him out since he's a transbian and they didn't want seem like a bigot or a terf
>nobody even reads the very series they are fan of for some reason
People like those are often only in it for the "fandom" or the characters they can adopt their headcanons into and ignoring the material the character is from.
Although I will admit,I am suprised with Rodimus being transwashed and not for example Starscream or Elita 1
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Definitely Chihiro from Danganronpa. I'm not gonna do a whole essay on how dumb it is that trannies wanna claim him, so I'll put it as simply as I can. The point of his character arc is that he wanted to stop being afraid of his own flaws, and learn to embrace what he actually was: a boy that would eventually grow into a man. Calling him a tranny just because he disguised himself as a girl is pretty much a big fat shit on his character because unlike actualy trannies, Chihiro decided to GROW UP and accept the male that he was.
>>325329>They must have been afraid of kicking him out since he's a transbian and they didn't want seem like a bigot
Yeah I think it's this. The canon gay couples from the comics made people more chill but I doubt that many like that transwash shilling. It's just that most fans are afraid to say anything against trans users nowadays especially if it's a bigger forum or discord because you know they will start a crusade and accuse you of all kinds of things to earn sympathies if you do it.>People like those are often only in it for the "fandom" or the characters they can adopt their headcanons into and ignoring the material the character is from.
Yes this. I knew about this in the past but had the impression that it was more of an exception not the rule. Guess I was wrong.
It's honestly frustrating because I am mostly into some weird but interesting side characters but almost nobody cares about them because they don't know them. Those who don't read the manga or comics only know like the main 10 maybe that are central enough to be shared on memes, which is all they seem to consume. Maybe the transwashing is related to this and people pick characters that give off the right "vibes" and latch onto them without care about the narrative.
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trannies try not to be delusional challenge
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>is a girl
>an extremely mysterious yet interesting character if you're on the mindset that her dreams symbolize her personality or memories
>obviously going through some shit emotionally because of how you end the game
>doesn't say shit during the whole game, but is still able to be somewhat relatable to girls and women who struggle to leave their comfort zone and socialize
>one little feature where Madotsuki can use a male restroom stall is all it takes for all these creepy, shit-brained trannies to think Madotsuki is "one of them", EVEN THOUGH Madotsuki can just as easily use the female restroom stall in her dreams.
>there is literally more evidence for the theory that Madotsuki was raped, than there is evidence for Madotsuki being a troon; a people fucking HATE the rape theory.
Fuck you trannies, Madotsuki is just a girl that's going through some shit. She'll never belong to you!
The worst part is that the tranny theory ruins all other theories. Basically, you have all these theories that each have one crucial piece of evidence:>the large phallic creature symbolic of fear of penises (rape theory)>the Toriningen are girls that bully Madotsuki (bullying theory)>the whole deal with cars and Tomoko are apparently about a car accident (car crash theory)
And you can easily put together all of these theories as being parts of a larger story (like say, Madotsuki was raped due to neglect, which was due to her bullying, which was due to an accident she caused). You can create a huge story out of these little symbolic hints.
Now, enter the tranny theory. It uses the phallic monster to argue that "muh dysphoria", the toriningen for "muh gender envy", and so on, essentially destroying all other theories. It's poetic in a way, of how the trans movement selfishly hijacks many other movements and ideologies to mash it into some frankenstein abomination.
MyHouse.WAD anyone? People are arguing that the main guy is a tif because at one point you enter a mens restroom (that's next to a women's restroom), you fight monsters there, take pills to heal and when you exit the two bathrooms are mirror-inverted, meaning you leave from the women's.
Makes no sense with the game's time period, the mirror theme is constant so it can be a coincidence, and the other argument which is the deadname Anna is some bullshit too since Anna is a separate character.
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>>325771>the insane amount of reach it takes to reach the theoretic conclusion that the player character from MyHouse.WAD is actually a tranny because of extremely insignificant, or incorrect interpretations of details like his inspection of the female restroom, or his real name.
Holy Fucking SHIT
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That's what irks me more. I bet they didn't even read "No Longer Human" book to understand Dazai (the moid) at all.
And since we are talking about BSD, the fact they call Sigma with female pronouns or call him a "non binary icon" because he was born in a lab… He still think himself as a man, way to misgender him for your tastes!
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pathologic has some of the most rabid trans fetishy bullshit ive ever seen and i hate it. so much. i LOVE the three main characters intensely, and pathologic 1 + 2 are two of my most favorite games ever made, but i cannot look for fanart or fanfic without running into revolting trannyshit. they especially dump it on daniil, because any slim man = ftm i guess. conveniently ignoring that daniil is the most likely character to be -phobic of anything, lmao. god i hate fandoms
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Does anyone else find the whole "I want to steal his gender" thing with fictional male characters really creepy and weird? Like wanting to dress up like a fictional character is okay but wanting to literally BE them is so weird to me.
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And many of them excuse their actions while saying "Killua made me do it, even Goku tried to stop it but Nagito wanted to see the world burn".
No, you did it because you knew it was wrong.
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there's no way this theory could be true, there's too much fear of sexual threat from men and pregnancy for mado to be a tranny. trannies are just retards who infest all indie games.
i've always thought KIKIYAMA was a woman due to the portrayal of mado's fears, dreams and nightmares.
From my experiences this past year, TF is ground zero kek, I went to some cons and it was 50% troons and 50% hardcore moids, with 99% of the female minority as TRAs. It was some of the craziest shit I've seen recently, gender ideology really has done a number on nerds. I'm trying to laugh about it so that I don't cry, the fact that nearly every other woman there was on T was so sad. Or you had neckbeards virtue signalling by bringing up "maybe we should call this bot/alien "they" because their pronouns have never been confirmed" during their presentation. (yes, I know there are troon bots now in the comics, which I don't really read, but I'm not talking about them, trying to stay on thread topic)
Sorry for mistakes I'm just an ESL lurker.
If m/m pairings are animated then it's not like they represent real humans anyway and people are more interested by their personalities, the dynamics involved and their design. Their relationship could just be more interesting to ponder for your friend. Many such cases exist.
I consider myself bisexual so take this with a grain of salt, but I think it's because very often fictional women tend to be bland and flat characters. I liked both women and men irl, but only fictional men and no fictional women. Okay, maybe only one or two fictional women in my lifetime.
Having finally gotten around to reading Felix's backstory, it'd funny how it's more of a child abuse trans allegory than anything else.
His father abused and tortured him and basically destroyed any chance at healthy pruberty (though by neglecting him for years in a basement), and there's even a scene where he confronts him and yells at him for ruining his life and "ripping any chance at being a normal healthy man", basically crippling him for life.
I think as long as she don't like their dicks/porn, it's fine. I'm lesbian as well and while I dislike m/m, there are some m/f ships I love because their dynamic, so I guess it may be a similar situation. When I see NSFW art/fics of them, I just focus on the girl and try my best to ignore the guy's dick & I'm not sure how could you do that with a sausage fest though kek
, but like you said it's probably because men are allowed to have a bigger range of personalities, dynamics etc in media; on top of us being conditioned by society to view men as more "human" or insteresting than women. If we are talking about cartoon ones, they're often feminine twinks that barely look like actual males, so again unless she's into bara or some shit I think it's relatively normal.
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Unsure if pro wrestling counts in this thread, but since it’s his wrestling character/gimmick rather than the actual guy, maybe it does -
CM Punk gets portrayed as FTM quite often by fans
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Neeko from League of Legends. Canonically a lesbian who has multiple (tame) moid-hating voicelines.
Doesn't help that there's a chroma with the tranny flag for one of her skins
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Leo Kliesen from Tekken. This one is more understandable because Namco loves playing up her androgynous features and keeping it vague, but if you look into it it's obvious that she's meant to actually be a woman.
Nona I made a post about MyHouse.wad a while ago in the Dumbass Shit thread, I have no idea if anyone replied kek, should've posted here instead.>>326066>The Doom mod community is extremely misogynistic and is full of moids
Yeah it's a given. I'm no DOOM fan but I have never heard of any woman in that entire community either.
However, the Doomworld forums, where the .wad was published, seems to be full of TRAs and some troons. I read the entire thread because I just needed to know the truth about the creator, even though I didn't know much about the community. In the end, they didn't reveal his identity (at least when I last checked) but along the way they did develop this tranny theory that the whole level is an allegory for either an MtF or an FtM going through some tragic bullshit. That was in the same month the .wad was released.>>326176
Yes, it has always confused me as well and creeped me out. In general I think it's mainly due to low self-esteem (no surprise there) and a lack of sexual and romantic experience, so they have no idea that it's normal to be attracted to someone you both relate to and admire at the same time, and that you don't have to literally be that person to feel comfortable with yourself. And maybe since the character isn't real and they can't be validated by him, their only solution is to make him real in some way. Or maybe they're a bit autistic but I feel that's a shitty answer. I do think inexperience definitely plays a huge role though because that behaviour is very childish like >>326188
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Sorry for the late response, but I agree with you. I know the rape theory is an unpopular one, but the obvious uterus, pregnancy, vaginal, phallic, and bloody imagery gave me the impression that Madotsuki experienced some sexual trauma. Or just curious about the human body at the very least
. It's a shame people hate this theory so much, because (to me at least) it would explain a lot of the creepy, organ-mimicking imagery and NPCs, and it also can make Madotsuki more relatable to women and girls who've experienced such trauma. Although it's a touchy subject, it keeps a level of "realness" in the game. Sorry for the sperging, I just think the theory gets too much hate.
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basically any horror movie character at this point
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I just discovered that troons and other genderfags are jumping through loops of circus-tier gymnastics to theorize that Danny-fucking-Phantom is a "transboy". I saw one claim that Danny in his normal outfit has "wider hips" than when he wears his skin-tight ghost suit, for "proof" that Danny was born a girl…completely ignoring that those "wider hips" can easily be explained by his normal clothes just being baggy. And why do they think the cliche trope of a superhero teenager needing to keep their identity a secret is somehow an analogy to trannies being in the closet?? With that logic, anyone having any secret ever can be compared to being a tranny. Can these people do their gender-destructive surgery and chemical lobotomy so the human population doesn't have to worry about their worthless genes making it into the pool? God.
they think they're being edgy i guess
don't know where they were back when horror wasn't "cool" in online spaces and didn't get tons of fanart like it does now
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I think Adam attracts TIFs because he's the perfect self-insert for them. He's shorter and younger than the other male characters in Saw, which is more relatable for them. He's also only alive
in the first movie, so what is known of his character is very minimal, allowing TIFs to project onto him. They also ship him with Dr. Gordon, because they love to pretend their heterosexual attraction to men and autoandrophilia is totally gay and queer.
CM Punk?? as FTM?? These kids have not seen him in ROH and it shows. Which is ironic because Chyna, back in her prime time, was always called "tranny" because she was a muscular woman.>>329080
IIRC It all started to piss off Butch Hartman, like people calls Hermione a TIM or a TIF to 'piss off JK Rowling, because Butch is Christian, so they want to use their "Transness" to troll him. But like JK Rowling does, Butch doesn't give a fuck about headcanons, even if sadly some TIFs took that shit seriously.
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actually, it’s mainly his ROH appearance they like to make FTM, i’ve observed
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I don't understand why people do this shit instead of just making OCs. I mean, it's so far removed from the source material. Also this bit in the caption made me laugh:
>I think the way hussie wrote about gender and they themselves figuring out their own queerness and opening up more to being queer Whilst writing Homestuck
…He's a bearded straight man married to a fan young enough to be his daughter, and he's clearly insincere about using "they" pronouns. Kek
i like astolfo but i rarely see him claimed as a trans gal these days. normally people are assuming he’s non-binary or something (which is unfortunately the case for most feminine male characters, even if they explicitly say they’re male)
i’m still pissed off about bridget also. his new design is cute kek
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Edgar valden from identity v. Anytime I look at western fanart of him they make him ftm. Doesn't help that his former voice actor was a woman before his original creator complained about it.
IDV fandom is so fucking shit it’s all gendie 14 year olds who have never even played the game they just make retarded memes that are always about sex or get in shipping discourse or accuse everything of being racist and problematic
somehow. Leave my cute puppet boy ryona game alone.
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This fandom is basically frozen on the 2010s and yet I still find the occasional comment claiming Gowther is a mtf, sometimes a person would bring up since he is a doll then he is technically non-binary. I'm actually quite mad today anons.
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>creeps on women constantly to the point that one of his lifelong dreams is sneaking into the womens' bathhouse with invisibility
>nearly dies from nosebleeding over seeing beautiful women
>literally learned how to fly by escaping an entire island's worth of creepy transvestites
and yet the number of times i've seen an MTF headcanon slapped on him frankly baffles me
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having just watched the spiderverse films:
die mad, troons
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I hate Pizza Tower but I've noticed something
Why do Tifs love this game…so. fucking. MUCH
It makes perfect sense why Sanji is headcannoned as a MTF - it’s because he is a thirsty sex pest. Tbh he’s pretty accurate MTF representation in that regard.
Also during the okama island arc, he did end up embracing crossdressing, I guess as a way to get the trannies off his back by making them think he’d become one of them. I hope that the okama island plotline makes troons seethe - my one complaint is that it depicted all of them as gay men lusting after an XY chromosome penis-haver, when in fact the majority of troons IRL these days are straight men calling themselves lesbians and sexually harassing biological females.
It's not like only scrotes like that, there are Japanese otome games that do it already, and even more that have a non-ambiguous (gender conforming) female love interest, although having either of that in otome is still pretty rare.>>324745>Why do men have to claim every single trans character as their own?
Because they (TIMs) like to pretend they can look like cartoon boys that look and sound exactly like cartoon girls. Also the vast majority of these characters aren't even trans, they're just crossdressers that identify as the sex they were born with from what I understand, and were usually forced to assume roles associated with the opposite sex, castrated against their will, using crossdressing to temporarily cope with some trauma, showing that sex doesn't determine what clothes you can wear or what things you can like, etc. None of that matters to tranny coomers, however.>>325333
That's pretty funny because there are moids that decide to troon out partially because they think they're not manly enough to be men/don't want to perform male roles = they're women. This character did the opposite, and trannies want to bring him down to their level to feel better about themselves instead of facing the fact that failing at gender roles makes them feel useless or they'd rather dedicate their lives to a coom LARP than behave like an adult male.>>333270>my one complaint is that it depicted all of them as gay men lusting after an XY chromosome penis-haver
Yeah, when Japanese men use that joke it's because the idea of an ugly crossdressing man will hit on them disgusts them to their very core, like it's the worst possible thing that could happen to a man (especially one like Sanji).
! Let's do it for him!
Yes. Spoiler read at your own risk It's been a long time since I've played anything umineko related but Beatrice the Golden Witch, Shannon, and Kanon are all alter egos of a mutilated incest baby seeking revenge of the Ushiromiya family for the mistreatment hes faced. He was up the product of the family head raping his daughter (also named Beatrice). He was thrown off a cliff as an infant and his penis got ripped off or something. So he was raised as a girl away from his creepy dad for a lil but. I felt a lot of sympathy for this character because in basically all worlds he's doomed to suffer like that. I believe that in it's heart the magic of umineko is just the fantastical world view of a broken child. That child is a product of incest but Beatrice, Shannon, and Kanon all have feelings for their niece/nephews but those are basically the only people nice to them. There is a lot I can't put into words besides it's just so tragic. A lot of gendie fans like to call Beatrice/shannon trans women but they literally had their penis ripped off or damaged in a way to make it easy to pass as female. Depending on how you view the magic aspect of the series there is only one world where he is spared most of the hurt and as a happy life. In this world he looks male but his gender is left ambiguous. If you believe that the magic is real then you can draw your own conclusions but since I see the magic as a coping mechanism I think that that happy life is just wishful thinking on his part, and his gender troubles are included because it's something he's struggled with since he realized his genitals were mutilated and can't imagine a life without.
Sorry for the spreg and any inaccuracies it's been a while. I feel like the devs really wanted to tell a tragedy but couldn't resist having an ambiguous tranny there. Like it's not even a trans story it's a tragedy about a lonely abused boy who has identity issues because he's been lied to his whole life and he had his genitals mutilated. As an infant. He literally never had a choice.
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yes, i was a young teen when it came out. he's so cute here but his 3D model is meh.
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This shit makes me cringe so hard
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tbh kirara is a bit confusing to me. we know he's male and his image drastically changed from when he was in high school, but he literally has tits?
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I haven't seen it myself because I avoid fanfiction and fandom spaces in general, but my friend has ranted about this to me a few times. But Crowley from Good Omens is apparently headcanoned as trans because he dressed up as a woman in episode one (which was more likely a regular "haha, man in dress" joke) and wore something that could be interpreted as a feminine outfit in one of their flashbacks, so there are supposedly several fanfics where he has a vagina and surgical scars. They are also pushing that any and all pronouns works when talking about Crowley and Aziraphale since they're not human, even though they obviously consider themselves male and go by "he" throughout the show.
honestly hate the show, especially for all the new blood it brought to the fandom, which was already very 'tumblr' and annoying before that (but like, the superwholock era sort, not so much current gendie fandom shit… at least the last time I saw it in passing). Not surprised either of the two leads are getting tiffed, they're basically the only ship in the fandom (to my knowledge) and pairings like that seem to reach an event horizon of gay content that leads to sudden mass tranny shit. idk it's weird. Also as someone who really likes works that explore non-humans in-depth, it depresses me that most fans just leave it at gender shit now (another example would be Vash) with an extremely poor grasp on biology if they do try to at least jazz that concept up (not that that's surprising considering lol)
I love the original book, though I'm also not in the fandom and just see its content in passing, but the show felt very… Gaiman, which I'm not into so I gave up on it.
I remember the creator saying Leo was originally going to be a female character named Eleanor, but some localization issues had her confusing overseas fans. It didn't help an official comic made her male as well, and they just leaned into the ~ambiguity~ of the character. The full "Leo is Leo" quote isn't too bad, as he said Leo wouldn't want to be called nonbinary, and instead it doesn't matter, as Leo is just a video game character.
SNK had a similar poorly handled, weird attempt at an androgynous female character with Yumeji in Samurai Shodown too, although she becomes a nun in her ending, lol. So they aren't the first to do it, although I can't think of any other ambiguous fighting game characters? For a hot second people (like the three still interested in the franchise at the time) thought Amakusa was nonbinary because the localizers used 'they' for him in press release before correcting it to 'he'.
Also Testament was clearly male back in the day. I don't even get why people think he was always supposed to be a troon, Daisuke wouldn't have felt the need to obnoxiously explain he is in his GGST reveal if so.
Daisuke Ishiwatari is just looking for ways to make shit popular. Testament turning into an enby waifu is for the DLC coombux, same for Bridget.
In the early 2000s he used to leave ambiguous replies to fan questions regarding Sol and Ky being gay for eachother… and that was because GG had a HUGE fujo fandom and Sol/Ky was the most popular ship. To avoid losing customers he literally lied about Ky and Dizzy's story (which became explicit only in GG2 and previously was only featured in a console port of X I think).
As for Samurai Shodown, the fandom is made of millennial male and boomers. Its fringe gendies are only in it due to KoF and they haven't discovered Yumeji's cringe yet. I did see Galford with tit scars and a vagina though.
AYRT and I guess my annoyance with this blurring that they're doing with Leo is annoying because it feels like these days you can't have a nonconforming woman (not adorned in coom tones or male gaze) with trying to make the character ambiguous and I'd just prefer they play the character straight if you know what I mean?
And I didn't know that about Samurai Shodown but Guilty Gear's Testament, very aware as I was really into GG back in the early 2000s. Testament and even Bridget were clearly male characters in their conceptual art and they depressingly ended up trooning both of them but in my head they will always be male.