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Happy birthday to Roberu!
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>>>/m/194814>>>/m/263786>>>/m/297793What is a vtuber?
>An online entertainer or live streamer who is typically represented by a digital avatar generated by computer graphics such as Live2D.This thread is made to discuss your favorite Vtubers, news surrounding the topic, and other stuff!
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Hololive
>HololivePLUS app announced>HololiveEN held their first ever concert>Hololive released a new experimental generation -REgloss- that focuses on music production>Hololive EN released a new generation Advent>HololiveEN Council announces 3D Showcase streams>HololiveID got their new outfits>HololiveID concert announced>HoloMyth Amelia and Gura got a new outfit, HoloJP gen7 got new outfits>Takanashi Kiara announced her first solo album>HoloENMyth celebrated their anniversary>HololiveJP Pekora will hold her first ever solo Live concert>HololiveJP Towa will hold her first ever solo Live concertHolostars
>HOLOSTARS Vesper got a new model upgrade, redrawing and rerigging his whole model>HOLOSTARS Vesper and Magni graduated and chose to go back to Twitch>HOLOSTARS EN held their 1st year anniversary>Roberu celebrated his birthdayNijisanji
>New NijisanjiEN wave -heroes- debuts>Gundo Mirei, one of the NijisanjiJP most successful talents, got forced into hiatus, and then graduation>NijisanjiJP legend (and the first person to who YAGOO superchatted) Maimoto Kisuke took an indefinite hiatus>NijisanjiEN Nina Kosaka graduated>NijidanjiEN Mysta Rias graduated>NijisanjiID Hyona Elatiora graduated>NijisanjiEN Obsydia and Iluna gens held their first anniversary>NijisanjiEN Selen and Pomu got a new outfit>Nijisanji EN Pomu and Selen made a mini-visual novel to celebrate their new outfits and anniversaryOthers
>AkioAIR got intro controversy for accepting a minor, half of her new generation graduated and posted their experiences with the corporations management and how predatory the corporation is>Vshojo announced a new secret member (people suspect its either Nina or Mysta, most likely Mysta)>Vshojo announced GEEGA as their new member No. 324511
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Thank you for the thread nonna!
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Is anyother nonnie feeling vtuber burnout lately? I still watch my oshi here and there but there's so much saturation nowadays I'm falling out of love for vtubers and with all the graduation and drama ..I still watch my oshi though
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>>324519Nonnie I feel kinda similar, even worse. I had two oshis, one was streaming at a good hour for me while the other wasn't so I was vod gang. But lately I can't even sit and watch their streams for long. I used to watch games I'm interested in and zatsus, then put other streams as bg noise but I haven't really had the need to watch full streams even when it's games I like lately. I just put it on if I come across it. I kinda miss when I was getting food and waiting for my oshi's stream every day kek but I guess the novelty wears off even after being a part of my routine for so long. I used to search for clips from their friends too but now I don't wanna know what anyone's doing with all this drama lol
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>>324511My pleasure! I am glad you liked it.
Which reminds me, i was planning on writing a post about Nijisanji not allowing Selen to create her own events anymore, etc, which is extremely unfair. I think I will make sure to post Selen as OP in next thread, she is a lovely dragon after all.
>>324519Ive been feeling that way for over a year now. In the end I got too tired of western drama and cliques surrounding eachother that I usually watch big events or streams of vtubers that are professional and work under a corp, or they are small and drama-free without any wrong "vibe". At a first glance, its tough to find women and men who are not obviously here for the clout and money, but there are good vtubers out there. I sadly feel too worried to mention the indies names in this thread because I don't want their names to be associated with vt or lc (because as you know, vt men pretend that all of the doxxing comes from here).
Outside that, i stick to watching Baelz, Bijou, Miko, Suisei and Advent collabs.
No. 324590
>>324519Not burntout but I'm still suscribed to a few Niji guys even though I haven't watched a full stream in years.
They can be fun in clips still but I just don't feel like watching hours of Minecraft or Apex or whatever random grinding game/dumb indie horror they tend to play.
No. 324607
>>324519Tbh that was me a few months ago, but I watch more than I used to ever since Advent debuted. I know that FWMC have been… controversial here, to say the least, but the level fo kayfabe they bring to the Western vtubing scene + their commitment to idol culture + general consitency have really reinvigorated my motivation to watch a vtuber. It's a low bar nowadays, but they're relisble, and I can count on them to continue delivering a positive and reliable time.
And just generally speaking, it's a good time to be a Hololive fan. I'd consider it one of the few areas of Western vtubing that are doing alright nowadays. Trouble comes in waves, so it's sure to break sooner or later. But right now? It's good.
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>>324607Agree with you wholeheartedly.
I enjoy watching FWMC morning streams, they are amazing. The fact how they actually care about their audience and treat Hololive like a job (unlike many of the ENs other than Baelz and Kiara) is something else. I do not like their choices of games so I only watch FWMC karaoke (which are always SO DAMN GOOD. these girls are crazy!?, collabs, mornings and that one Fuwa-solo stream where she played Phasmophobia.
I dont think what they do is a "low bar". They are geniunely putting effort in things they do, even to think about it, they always write scripts for fwmc and make sure that they keep themselves in character on stream and social media. It is quite a dedication. Way better than going the usual "easy route" when a person would try going gfe mode for easy simp money. I am glad they filter out ironic weebs tbf.
Its also refreshing to see en vtubers make sure their viewers are getting better instead of using them as a shoulder to cry on. The "fuwamoco morning outings" alone is a smart way to give someone a habit of going outside and enjoying the day with photography and whatnot.
>>324608I lost respect for him shortly.
Yesterday, vshojo had its Kuro announcement. By the looks of it, he tweeted something on his Mysta account (people were bombarding him with replies). Then 2 minites before kuro debut, he tweeted it on his roommate account.
As long as shit gives him money, he will go anywhere. Wont be surprised if Vesper and Magni join too. Especially Magni.
No. 324611
>>324529i stick to mostly indie streamers on twitch who don't do many collabs if at all, so less chance for drama and random graduations because of black companies. i sub to a few nijisanji and hololive people and i get how it's tiring to watch them especailly since they stick to the same old games like apex, minecraft, or the small list of games the company has obtained permission to stream.
>>324608vshojo is pretty lax about its members. i think hime barely streams because of her other identity and she's still in the company and gets money from merch sales and promotions they do with other companies. from kson's words, her contract also improved after their biggest vtubers left. vshojo can play whatever games they want without having it just be apex so it looks appealing to him that he would join i guess.
No. 324615
>>324611The Hime thing low key pisses me off because she was already a popular AnitUber and clearly did Hime purely for clout. Someone made a model for her only so she could never stream yet still reap the benefits of merchandising.
Maybe it’s also because I already don’t like her other identity much either.
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>>324519I actually just got into it (about 2 weeks ago) and pretty much walked into picrel w graduation / drama etc. My first exposure to vtubers was merryweather and shoto (kek) because a few acquaintances I know simp for them, then youtube rec'd me vox (double kek) w algo. On a surface level they were fine, just a few dirty jokes and fujobaiting, but then found them too disgusting to keep watching, esp after reading about them in the threads. So ig I speedran burnout for them.
I still do like the chara design for Vox / what he is like when he's not acting like a coomer (which is him 99% of the time lol), but I guess that's the majority of male vtubers. I do like Ike tho, I like to have him as my bg noise and I like how he doesn't like being parasocial / doesn't pander, just seems like a cute nerdy guy and I find his voice soothing. Even if he's secretly a coomer, he doesn't talk about that stuff on stream which is what matters at the end of the day. I also like Shu for similar reasons.
For female youtubers I really like Kotoka and Selen b/c they don't do that whole loli pandering bs. I can't stand the squeaky voice bullshit, it just makes my ears bleed. Idk who else to watch b/c I'm pretty new to all this, feel free to rec anyone who's not a total degen. I need more based female vtubers on my list.
Autosage for newfag + no1curr sperg
No. 324619
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so it was mysta after all, that didn't take long. I knew the moid couldn't go without the attention.
>no babying
We'll see how that goes.
No. 324620
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>>324616>Hololive>Hololive JP: Botan, Suisei, Iroha, AZki, Fubuki (i recommend watching her Mads Mikkelsen obsession, he actually had an interview with her), Towa, Polka, Ao, Raden, Watame>Hololive EN-speaking JP: Lui, Subaru>Hololive EN-speaking ID: Kaela, Moona, Anya, Reine>Hololive EN: Baelz, Ina, Amelia, Mori, possibly Kiara as i dont watch her as much. Honorable mentions: Pekora, Bijou (EN), Miko, Nene - high-pitched or "anime" voices filter you out so i put them there. Pekora is #1 and now loved by Kojima for a reason. I recommend checking out PekoMoon story arc.
The only HOLOSTARS EN guy that I watch is Axel and Shinri, but Hakka and Bettel left a good impression on me.
>HOLOSTARS JP: Oga, Roberu, Shien
>Nijisanji: I dropped the corporation after they mistreated my oshi (it was before nijiEN massive graduations). But i can vouch for Honma and Inui Toko. Also Ren Zotto who doesnt seem to lewdbait and was the only person to be mature and professional during the graduation drama of one of the EN girls. No. 324629
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She'sunironically a coomer but I can't help watching her and crushing on her. I love what a dweeb she is and her rare ikemen moments just absolutely destroy me. I totally understand why she has so many hardcore female fans amongst both other female vtubers and viewers. Crucify me.
No. 324630
>>324616JP streamers from youtube: @Dola @KishidoTemma @yashirokizuku @himono_vtuber
EN streamer from twitch: FroggyLoch
>>324620nta, i like ogas event. is roberu actually an oneeshota fan as said?
No. 324655
>>324616This might be controversial here but I don't mind Vox at all. While his content is not my cup of tea, it was a breath of fresh air to have a guy openly pander to his female fans and deliver what they wanted. The inevitable drama was, imho, inevitable, but as far as I've seen from him he doesn't really have a cruel bone in his body when he interacts with his peers. He's gotten better over time too and I hope he can find more comfort being more of a "brotuber".
Nijisanji as a whole has plummeted so hard though… I find it difficult to watch them with the same enthusiasm as I did before, but I've never liked most of Hololive because most of them are idols and I am personally not just an idol enthusiast. For Holostars, I was big into Vesper when he first debuted, but the more he went on, the more I lost respect for him. I enjoyed Bettel a lot, but his shtick grew old for me fast. I want to give Hakka a try, but I think I am suffering from burnout and should just avoid them for now.
I wish I spoke Japanese so I could truly enjoy the JP livers for Niji and Holo, they seem to be less infested with drama. I do still listen to Kanae from NijiJP though because his voice is very soothing.
As for Mysta… I am sort of disappointed that he chose to redebut this quickly, but I don't blame him for leaving Nijisanji. I don't think I'd want to stick around with that company knowing all we know now. He is a mess himself, and while I think he redebuted a little bit too fast, I don't blame him too much. I won't watch him though because his PL seems really vile and he comes off as the average mentally ill coombrained pedo. No thanks.
Thank you for coming to my blogpost.
No. 324713
>>324655Idk much about Vox as a person, but the reason people dislike him is because even though he panders to women he clearly uses it as an excuse to be a coomer.
Even in his ASMR’s he tends to showcase some kind of disturbing fetishes. Such as pretending to do things to the often female coded listener such as slapping them, spitting on them, degrading them , not to mention how so many of his ASMR’s are r*pe/dubcon fantasies. Even in his more wholesome ASMR’s you end up getting stuff like that.
It’s fine to enjoy his content, and idk the guy personally enough to say whether or not he sucks irl. But I mainly dislike him for being a coomer.
No. 324718
>>324619That clip of him going through his “dislikes” is pissing me off. God he seems like such a dickhead about everything. Him talking about how he hates fandoms when he’s obsessed with nagatoro as his “Waifu.”
Maybe I’m just nitpicking
No. 324750
>>324713>>324741I think it's funny that he expected his fans to have a healthy reaction to his shift in focus, too. Like, you really think that healthy women are into the degrading shit you put out?
When it comes to heavy fanservice male vtubers, I think Doppio is the only one I actually find tolerable. He has an actual personality that's not based in coomerism and uses his fanservice like an actual collaborative creative medium between himself and his fans rather than as an outlet for his own fetishes. And he's an actual adult who knows how to take care of himself, so you're not going to see him having a menhera breakdown over infantilization from his fans like a few of the other notable "safe" male vtubers.
Genuinely not trying to shill here as whether he's your taste or not is a different matter, but it's sad how hard it is to find a male vtuber that can provide decent fanservice without making it all about his own gratification.
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>>324750I still can’t believe he thought sharing his full ADHD and C-PTSD mental diagnosis to his audience was a good idea to “bring awareness”. Even Mysta of all people made fun of him for that, kek. I get that he recently just entered his 20s, but jesus he always puts his entire brain out there for any onlooker to poke and pick at. I knew he was fucking mental when he got upset about his fans calling him “fat” after he posted a picture of his midsection. They were all saying he had a sexy dadbod and he had a meltdown bad enough to make him get a personal trainer.
No. 324786
>>324769I mean if you want to get real analytical, no, I don't think it's good that he creates content that exploits unhealthy fetishes for financial profit and personal sexual gratification.
Is this whole "Vox's existence is feminist" discussion going to reoccur every thread?
No. 324826
>>324822Glad somebody else thinks so, wasn't sure if I was being a schizo.
Anyways… I've been watching more Hakka lately, I'm surprised at hoe funny he is? He's a great singer, too, I find myself enjoying hid covers along with Axel's more than any other male vtuber.
I feel like I see him talked about the least out of the Tempus boys, which is kind of surprising considering his sub count is comparable to Bettel's. Also did not realize that he shares a mama with Kaida Haru– what a theowback, I used to watch the guy a lot.
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>>324826Hakka's really funny and feels like he really appreciates his audience. Since his first OG song I've been keeping up with his covers/songs and he kills it every time. He feels like a real holostar. It's nice to see that such a passionate streamer and singer got accepted into EN, he seems to be giving energy to the others too. Shame I'm not a burger so no EN holostar's schedule is fit for me… If I had time to watch someone else's vods other than my stars oshi Hakka would definitely be my choice.
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>>324844Who's your stars oshi? I feel like we rarely get proper JPstars discussion here. Mine is picrel and Aruran, so I‘m a Yurustars hako oshi by proxy.
No. 324851
>>324847In the video it seems like he’s trying to pin it on his company instead of admitting he fucked up.
Unless he did hire an accountant that was just real shit at their job, which apparently has happened before.
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>>324850It's Flayon, I meant I only have time to catch up to one EN star's vods. But I do watch JPstars clips when I find them. There my oshi would be Izuru because I absolutely adore his voice and singing skill. His stream time is really good for me but I don't like watching the fiftieth FPS stream of the month kek I do watch his other streams cause I love hearing his voice even without understanding him though. I love Rio's voice a lot too and keep up with his covers and karaoke. From the clips I saw there's something to like about all of them, Shien and Oga would probably be my other oshis if I understood Japanese. At the risk of getting booed, I'll admit I like when men do proper fanservice for women lol
>we rarely get proper JPstars discussion hereWish there were more starsfags here so I could keep up with them without having to be involved with discord servers and twitter cults
No. 324951
>>324861I agree with you irt the fanservice from the JPstars, I've always felt that Shien in particular does a good job catering to his female fans. Not only with his nice voice but also his past game choices like his series of Twisted Wonderland streams– it was fun watching him genuinely enjoy a joseimuke.
I think Oga is also great for female fans, but it feels less like deliberate fanservice and just him naturally getting along with women? He's fun, respectful, and nice, and I love his gap moe when it comes to things like his cute little drawings and moments of pon. He and Aruran are probably the Stars members I most want as family, along with maybe Axel from Tempus.
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I’ll wait for a 3D show from Maria no matter how long it takes. She’s already having so much fun making dancing shorts with her VR model, who knows what she’ll do when she has 3D.
No. 325192
>>324850NTA, but I want to shill Rio! He has a soothing voice that is easy to listen to even if you don't really understand Japanese. He's generally pretty wholesome and doesn't do coomerbait content at all (from what I understand) and when he does interact with the other Holostars members in shippy/bantery ways, it's usually in a way that's seen as cute. I like that he puts in the effort to interact with English speaking vtubers (his Fall Guys stream with Hakka is a good example of this) and vtubers from other companies, and that he acknowledges English comments in his chat if they're simple enough.
Of course, his singing voice is also great! Vidrel is one of his more iconic streams where he invited a lot of guests for his 1 year anniversary as a Holostars member to sing with him.
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>Complain about ex company not helping him with taxes
>Complain about ex coworkers not helping him with taxes (they're not in the same country)
>Turns out he admitted as Mysta that the problem is him not knowing you have to pay taxes for things you buy, he's in 350K in debt because he didn't pay property tax
>Turns out he did get help about his usual taxes from the company, they just didn't get involved in his personal finances
>New company magically got him out of a 350K debt
>Still talks shit about the company
>Left for "creative freedom"
>Creative freedom is watching tiktoks on twitch
>Tells his Mysta fans to fuck off
>All the normal fans are leaving, only the shizos and incels are left
He's doing all this to himself, can't wait for him to have another breakdown and leave Vshojo and also talk shit about them. When he graduated I really thought he was going to take time off to focus on himself. Forgot he's an attention hungry menhera
No. 325208
>>325204I'm starting to think the beef with his ex friends might not have been unwarranted too. He's the type to burn bridges. and I forgot to add
>Luca calls him out for slandering their company, says they knew what they signed up for while agreeing to work hereIt just seems like Mysta didn't know how to adult in general. It's not weird that he would make mistakes in his first big boy job but the fact that he can't accept those are his mistakes and not random people around him is annoying af
No. 325269
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Guess I was right in saying he had more than ADHD
No. 325288
>>325200I didn’t know he talked shit about his old coworkers and dissed his old fans.
God this guy seems like such a douche, he clearly cannot handle having a large following yet is too attention hungry to stick to being small (which would probably be much healthier for him)
I remember on his personal account as blu he once tweeted asking people to buy him shit like games and figures too on some website. And his frivolous spending is batshit insane it’s pathetic.
I feel empathy for him because of his mental health and past financial struggles. But it’s just so hard keeping that empathy seeing the way he acts.
No. 325307
>>325303I doubt he will actually seek to Better himself anytime soon. He’s gonna do what he always does, go menhera after a while and quit again. Then go on to shit talk all his “friends” at vshojo. He would greatly benefit from taking a break from streaming and social media in general, it’s clearly terrible for his mental health.
But he won’t, because he needs money to blow on Gacha games and things he doesn’t need.
I genuinely do feel bad for him and I wish he would try and get better. But it’s hard to see that happening.
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autosage for blogposting / no1curr
I love this nerdy cute novelist. I get that he's not the most high energy VTuber to watch but out of all the male chuubas he seems like one of the 'normal ones'. Doesn't do the whole "haha seggs joke so funny" shit and other gross stuff that most moid streamers resort to. His character design is also cute, but then again I have a thing for 2d men in glasses kek
I've also been watching Luca and he's my second favorite so far if not liking him as almost as the same level as Ike, he also seems well adjusted and I love the whole goofy golden retriever persona. I'm definitely super late to the party, but I've been enjoying watching clips and VODs of them so far. Kinda wish that the whole Luxiem drama didn't happen, would have loved to see their 3D model do concerts, what a shame
No. 325383
>>325269nitpicking but didn't he make fun of Vox for telling his fans about his ADHD diagnosis? then he turns around and shows the whole world that he's on the spectrum kek
>>325200thanks for the TLDR nonna, idk how people still watch this dude after all the drama he's caused out of his own retardedness. I get that financial illiteracy is a serious issue that's hard to address, but he really couldn't hire some financial advisor with all the chinese sugar mommy money he was raking in? I had no clue about the 350k debt due to not knowing how to pay property taxes, that's a whole new level of tard
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>>325382nonna ily Ike is my oshi and even though he might have some questionable sides to him they rarely come forward in streams and it's just so nice to be able to enjoy a nice swedish ikeman who doesn't pander disgustingly and is just focusing on streaming and his hobbies
No. 325827
Was watching some Tenma this weekend. Her video talking about husbandos and how much she likes widowed fathers and how she wants to mindbreak them is very cute.
(idk why the embed isn't working for me)
https://www.youtube.com/live/CzLT2GW5ja8 No. 326309
>>326255I was just surprised at the number of anons in this thread who said they like FWMC. It feels like they go against what most farmers would like, but to each her own, I guess.
>>326304Most people have never heard adult women speak their native language in such a jumbled way, myself included
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This god damn off-collab better lead to an announcement for new outfits and not just be another really awkward and boring management-conducted one like the Luxiem one.
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Sage for blogposting and my personal complaints. I started vtubing a few weeks ago, and it's 100% just for my own fun. I'm putting time and effort into what I'm making, and doing more than just streaming, so I'm lucky to be gaining a few hundred followers. I only expect this to be a hobby for me. I don't expect this to ever pay my rent. In fact I expect it to be a net financial loss.
That being said, I've seen too many people in the vtubing scene who act like spoilt whiny babies when they only have 100 followers after a year or got rejected from Hololive for the umpteenth time when all they do is the absolute bare minimum. All they do is get a model, then start streaming the same handful of games for a couple of hours every week, then expect the followers to come rolling in.
No advertising themselves, no experimenting with new and unique stuff, no trying to find a niche (like ASMR, language teaching, creating artwork or music, handcams). Just, 'wah wah wah, why won't Hololive hire me, I streamed 200 hours this past year and I draw anime sometimes.'
Of course you 'deserve' to be in Hololive. Everyone and their mom wants to play vidya for a living and be showered in cash and fanart. But you've done nothing new, you don't have good conversational skills or banter, and you'd probably crack under pressure the moment more than 20 people were watching your stream and you started receiving death threats.
(I'm sure there are very good streamers who just haven't picked up momentum yet, but 99% of amateur Vtubers are doing the same, mediocre things. Nonnies who are just vtubing for fun, this isn't directed at you.)
No. 326477
>>326467I used to Vtube for fun too but stopped bcs I was quite tired juggling between work and streaming for a year (it was my fault tho for my bad scheduling). I've been planning to stream again and try being chill with my schedule.
I agree with your points. It's quite funny for me to see them whining about numbers and how they are qualified to be in Vtuber agencies but all they do are involving themselves into dramas, doing controversy takes and baiting people with having big boobas and say lewd things. Tbh I wanna see Vtubers that has the same vibes as Jerma/Vinny Vinesauce and female Vtubers who do otome contents.
No. 326487
>>326474>>326477I could never judge someone who's just doing it for fun, and wish I could see your streams!
At least lewdtubers are providing something (sexual titillation) even though I don't like it. But if all someone is doing is playing flavor of the week games and commenting on it, and wants to make it into Holo/Niji, I feel like they need an exceptionally charismatic personality. Like, people were happy to sit and listen to Vesper talk for an hour about cooking chili, because he was entertaining to listen to.
Too many amateur vtubers are focusing on ~muh lore~ but literally no one cares about how you're a half vampire half succubus from the year 2123 with a magic sword or whatever if you have a dry personality and no life experiences.
If you don't have exceptional people skills and you want to make it as a vtuber, I feel like you need to start honing some other kind of skill, like singing, ASMR, multilingual skills, or making edited videos. Sitting there and playing games on Twitch is the bare minimum.
Anyways /end my 2nd blogpost and RIP to my male acquaintance who has been trying to vtube as a 'career' for like a year now and has less than 200 twitch followers kek.
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Anyone who's keeping up with Merry got any milk on why he's doing this? General burnout?
Autosage for newfag
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>>326243I'm gonna sperg.
I'm Korean and IDGAF lol. I've seen a lot of racefakers and disrespectful weebs in my time and they're not that. They're fluent in the language of the culture they love and they're always respectful. They've made it clear on their RM accounts both of their own volition and every time it has come up that they are White. Their speech may be sort of cringe but it mostly reads as them trying to be cute. It's not like they're using incorrect grammar or mispronouncing words in a slapdash approximation of ESL speech. And the age isn't an issue to me because most of my favorite vtubers are of a similar age. What are you going to do next, cancel Korone?
I really did dislike them the most at the beginning. And honestly, I still don't enjoy them in collabs and a lot of their gaming content because it's just not that interesting beyond "cute girls make funny noises". But being as big a fan of Hololive as I am, spending time with them in a zatsu setting or in FWMC morning was bound to turn my stance around on them as people. They're always punctual, always present quality, and have an incredible depth of knowledge stemming from actual decades of passion far beyond most fans any Japanese cultural product. I really do enjoy hearing them sperg about their interests and bring that same enthusaism to their work as vtubers. It's earnest and refreshing.
Not to be accusatory, but I really do think a lot of the hate levied towards them is coming from people who dislike Hololive to begin with and are simply buying into an overblown narrative of their supposed wrongs. Either that or you only watch a couple of the ENs and aren't a fan of Hololive as a whole. It's just too hypocritical to disavow them while still supporting a lot of the other big Hololive names.
The only thing you can really "get" them on is alleged incest baiting, but it's really not that present and the whole thing is just what you'd expect of twins who have based their entire entertainment career off of being twins. If that's someone's issue, that's completely fair and I actually would agree with you in that I plan to dip if it gets worse.
No. 326539
>>326512Ayrt, I can see the points of your argument. They do at least seem like they want to be in Hololive and care about being there unlike some of the talents, so I can see the appeal of that.
The only things I'll add is that their downsides are things I personally can't stand. I only mention their age because of the uwu voice. Maybe some could argue it's their devotion to the role and shows how good performers they are, but I simply can't do with uwu voice. I'm sure their natural voices are lovely and appealing, but I just can't sit there and listen to the garbled uwuspeak. Never met anyone who speaks like that irl.
I also feel like they like/support lolicon culture. Maybe this sounds more like a tinfoil hat, but I'm pretty sure I've seen posts from their past life of them enjoying loli stuff. I know it's prevalent in a lot of anime, but loli is just a personal no-go for me.
Blogpost but I grew up watching anime and playing eroge, so for a while, I was brainwashed by that sort of culture, too. But it's been a few decades for both me and them.
No. 326540
>>326539samefag continuing to blogpost but I feel like so much of being an anime or vtubing fan as an adult is choosing which '
problematic' parts you're tolerate and which parts are a hard no from you
Like I know a lot of Hololive is lolis, or people putting on voices, but I just try to choose talents to avoid it. Maybe that makes me a hypocrite but meh.
No. 326600
>>326539AYRT
I think the nonpreference for their voices is fair, and you're entitled to that. It's up to personal taste, and I do understand what you mean when it comes to some other vtubers. For example, I respect Bijou as a streamer but I can't get behind the actual loli model coupled with a forced child voice on any woman. Same goes for Luna from JP actively infantilizing herself, although I think it's not as bad these days as it was a couple years ago.
I've never really gotten the lolicon vibe from them TBH. They like cute anime girl designs in general, but actively lusting after lolis is a level of degeneracy I just wouldn't be able to get behind.
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>>326600Based
nonnie having an internet disagreement in a civilized way. Idk if I'll ever watch them but I can see your appreciation.
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Looks like Nina is joining Vshojo. People found from her steam and minecraft name being changed. It seems she'll be a cockroach-themed tuber.
No. 326647
>>326645You're good nonna.
Anyways, maybe I'm too much of a purist, but I always feel it's kind of sad when vtubers end up in Vshojo. It feels like it's becoming a dumping ground for anyone done with regular corporate life. It also feels a little backstab-y to get fans worked up over your graduation, then resurface a few weeks later. Well, I hope she does well anyways. She seems nice.
No. 326656
>>326647I just dislike it when they talk like they're done with the industry for the foreseeable future or imply that they're going to take a long break or give any other number of serious reasons and then turn around and negate it all with a rapid reincarnation.
I like her, but it reminds me of how Suzuhuara Lulu stated fan stalking as a reason for graduation and then quickly redebuted as a fleshtuber. Hard to blame fans for feeling emotionally twisted around by it.
I think part of the blame does just lie around the traditions of vtuber culture, though. Especially when it comes to corpo graduations.
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New teaser, zoom and enhance in a sec.
No. 326659
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>>326658I hope she actually retains the messed up insect hands from the teaser despite this being a pretty generic anime girl face. Do something marginally interesting.
No. 326676
>>326656I don't closely follow Nina, but didn't she give an excuse during graduation, something like she felt like she wasn't performing well anymore and was a disappointment?
I'm too lazy to actually verify this lol. But I wonder if it was just an excuse.
Tbf, I guess you can't really say 'Niji is a sinking ship and I'm done.'
No. 326677
>>326669I like Juniper! I love the work and dedication she puts into her own model, which is also why I don't think it'll be her as IIRC she likes inhabiting the product of her own work.
>>326676She implied that she'd be taking a year minimum break.
No. 326679
>>326664It feels very disingenuous that they bothered holding auditions if they only intended to hire friends and vtubers who were already famous.
I mean I get that it works great for them, but to me it feels like they don't bring anything fresh to the industry. At least Hololive takes a gamble on smaller creators who seem promising.
No. 326691
>>326498Idk what’s going on with him, but I’ve never liked him as a content creator. Everything he does seems calculated in a way that’s just trying to get fame and views. Including his vtubing career. He’s not an untalented writer and occasionally will put out some genuinely good stuff, but he very clearly cares about getting as much clout as possible first and foremost.
Maybe he’s acting like this because his attempt at a vtubing group flopped or something…idk.
No. 326702
>>326600>They like cute anime girl designs in general, but actively lusting after lolis is a level of degeneracy I just wouldn't be able to get behind.I feel like there's a level of cultural nuance to it when people like Fubuki or Flare say they like loli. The way I see it, it's kind of like how people say they like furry; we might think of the animal fucker fursuit wearing degenerate types, but it might just be they like funny Zootopia/Beastars animal people.
>>326691>Maybe he’s acting like this because his attempt at a vtubing group flopped or something…idk.Tell me more about this kek.
No. 326794
>>326702Basically about a month ago Merry officially created his own vtubing company called astraline. With that a vtubing group was created(also called astraline) that included him , lumi and 3 newly debuted vtubers.
Of course merry slapped his own face at the forefront of this group but that’s not too important.
Besides that the 3 newly debuted vtubers seem to be making very little noise and getting little traction. The most followers one has is 12k and the two others haven’t broken 10k yet.
Obviously this could change in the future and followers aren’t everything, it should be about enjoying yourself. But Merry has always seemed like the type of creator to care about popularity and views more than anything.
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Looks like he isn’t gonna quit after all.
Anyone has any idea who he could be talking about ?
No. 326830
>>326802What happened between him and Pippa ?
All I know about her is that she’s a loser to panders to an audience of 4chan users.
No. 326916
>>326898Didn't people find her posting trans ally stuff right before she debuted or something?
She probably doesn't even believe anything she's saying. She's probably some lonely, boring woman irl who just wants attention on the internet. Negative attention is still attention for some people.
No. 326930
>>326898God she’s such a pathetic 4chan dick sucker. I’ve heard some batshit conspiracy theories but the shit she’s spouting is insane levels of mental illness.
Ngl I pray she fucks up one day and her entire audience turns on her. The bitch needs a wake up call to what kind of people she so desperately wants to appeal to.
No. 326932
>>326930Didn't she have a breakdown on stream a few months ago and was crying about being suicidal?
Her less-subbed but more normal counterparts are probably much happier and healthier than her.
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Compared to the Nina design, this is a downgrade.
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>>327397I actually think the face is so cute and expressive somehow. It reminds me of a barbie doll. But yeah, the body is a bit much.
No. 327463
>>327454There's a vod of her with pickme kirsche(she's like the retarded cousin of metokur who's not even funny) where she watches the vice pedophilia in the manga industry and says its only fiction and doesn't harm real children..while the docu
shows it does and then she backtracks like the retard she is, she also had lolicon art in the past (she herself admitted it was the art of underage characters) overall she's a retard and it's best we don't talk about her since it'll attract her coom brained scrotes
No. 327466
>>327397I hated Nina's design from the getgo personally, so for me this is a sidegrade. I dislike how sexualized it is, but I like how mad some men are because it's slightly creepy. I wish she'd have gone creepier, but she seems happy and if she's happy then I am happy. I will support her regardless.
>>327419well ackshually she's an alien
No. 327467
>>327397Every vshojo model is shit or generic. I only love KSons design because she worked on it herself without vshojo involved. Its still funny, remembering that Vshojos gift to her joining them were
>an extremely shitty 3D model that looked like straight out of 2$ steam porn game>a lewd outfit that she used only for a month, drawn by an entirely different artist that couldn't even bother matching her skin color and looked out of place because how different the artists styles wereCouldn't find a lot of "that" 3d kson clips, feel like they were trying to scrap the awful look at it under the rug.
Henyas model downgrade is a different topic.
I dont understand have naive nonna thought that they might make something cool outside "mommy tiddy bitty" model and other garbage Vshojo is known for.
No. 327487
>>327467It feels like Vshojo took notes from the Genshin school of over Designing characters for most of their vtuber models.
Most of them are way too overdetailed and over sexual it just becomes painful to look at.
Nina’s model has a nice color palette and cute face. But everything else is just….too much.
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Cutie. I love the outfit, even if I don't watch IRyS anymore.
The details are awesome! I especially love short hair.
No. 327549
>>327545Oga is one of the few male vtubers i can recommend.
>orange juice game creator>is generally a chill man>the thing that makes me love and appreciate him the most is how respectful he is towards women and hololive girlsHe is basically a normal man with a deep voice. Just a nice man who doesn't do anything retarded. HolostarsJP in general is the best male group i found, because they are literally just "boys doing things". Their bond between eachother will never break.
I do not recommend western moids because they are the worlds biggest coomers. The only EN guy that seems okay is Axel in my book, he knows both ENG and JP, and didnt join the corpo just to get closer to their e-celeb crush or any crap like that, unlike some other people.
No. 327555
>>327548Samefag but if you want to watch some deeper voiced EN tubers who have Japanese streams, Shu Yamino and Sonny Brisko do streams in Japanese. I’ve only watched Sonny’s and he usually uses simple to understand Japanese so it’s easy to grasp what he’s saying and pick up new words. He doesn’t bring up gross topics on his streams and makes a point not to, which I like, and isn’t a really loud person and Shu isn’t either. I also agree with nonna’s opinion above with recommending Axel Syrios because he does a lot of Japanese streams and speaks Japanese a good amount throughout his English streams as well. But if you only want JP tubers, Holostars is the way to go.
I’d recommend Axia Krone if his streams still existed because I found the language he used simple to understand even while being N5. There are clips of him that exist out there if that helps you at all.
No. 327811
>>327781I’m with you
nonnie. I didn’t really like Magni from the beginning, and I think Vesper grew to show his own colours anyway eventually. The model ordeal is really horrid though. I feel for Pako. I think Stars EN is better off without them anyway if it’s any consolation, they both attracted more of a moid audience who wanted ‘brotubers’ kek
No. 327872
>>327781i have very mixed feelings about it still and am taking a break from vtubers in gen just to think about it.
my theory is that vesper got hurt in someway, he mentioned having to do physical therapy a lot. So cover said some bullshit to vesper about his work so magni jumped in saying if he goes, im going. so eventually they left. from the JP members, it doesn't sound like them leaving was planned and very abrupt due to ongoing contract negotiations.
so 1, i fucking hate cover because they treat their EN employees like shit. 2, I don't like how vesteas/magmites were treated after graduation. it's probably parasocialandy from me, but when you support a creator and they just give up and not even acknowledge their own work just leaves a bad taste in all the memories.
side note: i'm sure bettel is on his way out unless cover renegotiates his contract so well that he won't want to leave.
No. 327874
>>327872I think you phrased it well about them not acknowledging anything. I initially liked Magni and Vesper a lot when they debuted, but the way they just vanished suddenly leaves a sour taste in my mouth. Especially when Pako had just made new art and Magni was just re-rigged. I guess streamers are human beings first and foremost, but it still sucks.
Even if the person playing the character is fantastic, we're still kind of attached to the character in the way, art and everything. Re-debuts or retirements are bound to happen, but when vtubers just redebut left and right, it takes a way a little bit of the magic for me.
No. 328009
>>327781To me, Magni was the most obvious bad choice, remembering how roommate.
>is an ironic weeb grifter>blew up only by using vtuber hype clout>is nothing but a reddit-tier coomer>it was obvious that he thought he would get more fame from hololive and throw his twitch friends in thereKnow nothing about Vesper, but he gave off a vibe of a weirdo IT-guy with massive 'tism. Out of everyone in their cursed gen, I think only Axel deserved to be in Hololive.
I am just glad they fucked off, even if they did it in the most obvious 'we dont give a shit about anything but money', way. Especially how they did Pako's new model dirty. The disrespect, lmao.
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>>327781>>328009I enjoyed Vesper's content at the beginning, but after everything that's happened I'm so glad they're gone. Holostars EN as a whole feels much better without them.
No. 328325
>>328323Just a guess.
>kept appearing in irl Magni's streams>became more active in his pl>shared plans about using his face instead of a model for pl's future>highest earning of tempus, could let it get to his head>sees Magni and Vesper leave and get support On the other hand he could see that they lost revenue and decide to stick to tempus
No. 328692
>>328647As a viewer seeing lgbt tags or pronouns puts me off but if it's a woman with she/her pronouns I just assume she's a normal lesbian or bi so I keep watching. It depends on how much spicy queerness you can tolerate in your viewerbase, I'm not a streamer but I feel like if you don't bring up gender topics yourself they might not bring it up themselves either. I would immediately feel closer to the streamer when I see tags
>>328675 mentioned though.
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incoming blog post
>be me
>be new vtuber
>having a really nice time, making a few friends in the community
>an pre-debut vtuber reaches out to me
>really cute design, she seems really professional and well-prepared despite being new
>we hit it off and message a bit
>come to her first stream to support her
>a dude's voice
I can't believe I let myself be bamboozled like this nonitas… Never again…
No. 328876
>>328813good luck distancing yourself without the transphobia accusations kek
>>328647I avoid people with LGBT tag personally because themlets are annoying
No. 329046
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I can't believe i find this mf attractive. He has a nice fashion sense (for a man who is into punk/goth stuff at least), but i just know if it wasnt his outfits, he would have looked lame, at least purely for the fact that he often makes weird expressions on his pics.
No. 329061
>>329050Thank you for fixing my mind,
nonny.
No. 329075
>>329046I have this question a lot with the Tempus boys (just because I see their RMs being lusted after a lot more than other male chuubas) but are other women seriously attracted to these men? Like, even if you saw some other guy who looked like him, you'd still find him handsome? Or is it knowing that they're your favorite anime boy that makes up for the mid face?
Magni in particular baffles me because he's legitimately unattractive by Asian (and I would presume Western) standards.
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>Sayu shits on Yuniiho for “not finishing” her model before the deadline
>accuses Yunii of taking “bribes” because she was working on other models before/alongside Sayu’s
>Yunii’s vods prove that she finished Sayu’s model 3 weeks ahead of the deadline
>turns out Sayu has the model on hand and threw a hissyfit at the wrong person (it was the rigger that is delaying her model debut)
Sasuga schizoid
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>>329320It’s really funny that the people who first sided with her when she left Nijisanji are now turning on her after realizing how often she lies about and responds terribly to things. Yuniiho is supposed to be her “friend” for god’s sake, but what Sayu said caused Yuniiho to get shit on by the scrotes that still cap for Sayu. She’s another person that needs to desperately go to a mental health professional before she starts streaming professionally again, but it looks like she won’t. I just hope even more people don’t get screwed over by her starting drama.
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this is what no pussy does
No. 329413
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>>329075People unironically called this attractive
No. 329427
>>329413Bottom of the barrel and his humor is coomershit too. I have to assume that nonasian women just have no eyes when it comes to Asian men but like Altare and Axel aren't even lookers and yet they don't get half the thirst this dude does despite being way better looking.
Insane to me. Grow standards kek
No. 329483
>>329413I seriously fucking hate when Vtubers show their mugs, do these losers really think they would have as many fans as they have if they didn’t depend on an attractive character? They would all have 200 followers at best and it would be mostly moids and low self-esteem women.
It’s just so smug of them all to think that because they created a fandom, that their faces won’t be considered as fucking ugly as they are, and while some people can wear their fan glasses 24/7, I personally consider it’s of a really bad taste to reveal who the fuck you truly are, like, they’re not voice actors, you can just ignore a voice actor’s face and just know that your favorite character isn’t the voice actor; but Vtubers are literally the character.
Like pretend for a few years you’re not catfishing people, all of the compliments aren’t for your ugly ass, they’re for the character.
No. 329534
>>329522nta but he went back to using his face thinking his holostars fanbase will follow him for his content despite his face. Then again the ones that followed him are probably just the dudebros as ugly.
>>329520It's so stupid that female vtubers have to deal with this all the time even when they don't bring up anything themselves. Male fans are so pathetic.
No. 329658
>>329595>someDo you know where you are? Besides this is a
vtuber thread not a methhead appreciator thread
No. 329714
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Anyways, here's some actual vtuber news. Mika Melatika is graduating. What's the chance we see her in Vshojo in 2024? She's pretty close with Mysta/Kuro.
I don't follow Niji that closely but she seemed like she was inclining. Things aren't looking great for Nijisanji.
No. 329715
>>329714I couldn't care less, I hate this coomer ethot so much im pretty sure niji let her go since she was too coomer for them she won't be missed
Also it's so tiring seeing these graduations I'm kind of glad I stopped having oshis
No. 329870
>>329320Despite obviously being a menhera, I actually sided with her after the Niji drama went down, but time after time she keeps proving how much of a retarded snake she is. In the same stream where she's shitting on Yuniiho, she
>Seethes because of her low numbers, clearly unable to move on from her ridiculously short time at Niji>Complains about her chat and how she can't ban people because of how little viewers she has.>Has the nerve to namedrop Nina when she was debuting that same day as Matara>Complains about money even when she spends it all on merch and travelling.The funniest part tho was the tweet she made almost immediately after ending the stream, apologizing to Yuniiho for being a retard kek
It's amazing how she lost all the good faith people that aren't her die-hard fans thanks to a 30 min rant. Wonder how many more bridges she will burn in the future. If some corpo was thinking about giving her a chance, I'm sure she's now seen as a terrible fit for any corpo culture
No. 330046
>>329870Her complaining about her community being out of control, constantly sexualizing her, not actually giving a fuck about her, etc. is the most ironic part of the whole rant. My vsister in Christ,
you built that community. And she literally begged an artist to draw porn of her when she raided him last week so she can’t complain about others sexualizing her while she sexualizes herself.
No. 330059
>>330046Even as Zaion she had her likes full of porn of her model. I just don’t understand what she wants and I can even understand where her fans are coming from when they get frustrated with her on that front. She needs to stop flip flopping and figure out what she really wants out of her career, cause it seems like she’ll just be streaming genshin, reacting to videos, begging for people to feel bad for her, then rinse & repeat. It’s sad. With how often she frequents 4chan and even talks about specific memes and says criticism on there is legitimate compared to other platforms (hell, the whole rant was
triggered by a comment on there), it lets us know that she probably sees what people say about her ex-genmates and Nijisanji and how harshly the members get treated on there and finds that “legitimate” and amusing. I don’t think she registers that this makes her look even worse of a person than she already does.
No. 330106
>>330059>she probably sees what people say about her ex-genmates and Nijisanji and how harshly the members get treated on there and finds that “legitimate” and amusingShe actually was bragging about how she could have easily burn the company into the ground, like that didn't make her look shitty.
The fact that she even said all those things about Yuniiho pretty much confirms she has 4chan brainrot, considering that was basically the only place where people theorized Yuniiho gave priority to clients that payed more, and Sayu decided to believe that rumor for some reason and spread a moid rumor about her friend. I still don't understand how they're still viewers that coddle her in her stupid decisions
No. 330275
>>330258I feel like it'll be hard for me to become attached to anyone. Niji might just become a stepping stone to VShojo or indie popularity, tbh.
It's like debuts and graduations mean nothing when they happen every 30 seconds.
The guy does seem to have a nice voice though, but unfortunate name. Any clue who his past life is?
No. 330331
>>330275>basically no one talks about nijikrisis>justice has been servedI’m the
nonnie that talked about one of the past wave’s members here and it makes me a tiny bit happier that they didn’t blow up in popularity. I dropped corpo vtubers almost completely and focusing on my indie vtuber friends. The whole vtubing scene has been nothing but nepos and clout chasing that it’s lost what made it so unique in the first place.
Oh and I’m only watching female vtubers from now on. Why are all male vtubers clout chasing pests? I swear almost every single one of them are engagement baiting or chasing a new female vtuber every week.
No. 330463
>>330460Niji EN? Yeah.
I used to be a huge Nijisanji fan but the management and cultivation of the EN branch over the past few years (+the graduations of all of my fav JP members) has turned me from a Holo anti to a huge fan.
No. 330598
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Niji posted the announcement again to "fix" the audio, but it sounds just as bad and the replies are even more critical kek
No. 330615
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Have any of you nonnas kept up with the advent girls? Personally, I gave Shiori the benefit of the doubt, but she ended up disappointing me with that litfag kayfabe along side her retarded scrote fanbase who unironically call her a femcel kek. I like Nerissa even though she's kind of a coomer and somewhat yuribaits, but other than that she's very relatable and I'm rooting for her success and seeing her in live concerts
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>>330615I prefer Bijou and Fuwamoco.
I love how all 3 actually try really hard to reach new heights. Bijou is always collabing with others, even shows up in holoJP chats, engaging with fans and their content, etc. She really seems like a ruthless business woman, lol. But my favorite part are her and Kaela collabs, they get along so well.
Fuwamoco are doing their own original content, i love their fwmc show, their games are not to my taste, so i watch collabs instead (i enjoyed the Fubuki collab). I love how they also show how much they care about the fans and actually want you to get better and improve, instead of being one of those gfe manipulators or arguing with your fanbase like Kronii and Amelia did (even though in Ame case, i understand. She grew sick of her own fanbase almost 2 years ago. Poor girl).
>ShioriI dont watch Shiori because she is too desperate when it comes to being a schizo/gosling glue, coming off as extremely desperate. On top of that, her interview with Kiara + her past…no thanks.
>NerissaShe is not my type because of coomerism+her trying to gather Kiaras fanbase came off as tacky to me, and some of her other collab choices, too. But i like hearing about her family, its super fun. Admittedly i only prefer watching her play Terraria, she does super well in collabs too. Bless her for opening Terraria server.
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>>330621>BijouI like her too! can't really follow a lot of her streams because I don't particularly like those "endurance" streams, it's endearing how much she tries to interact with the JP girls and their chat interactions. I didn't have much faith in her because of the loli voice and design, but she's becoming one of my favorites, it sucks that a lot of scrotes have such a coomer attitude towards her, but otherwise she's very nice.
I tend to stick more with the JP girls and one of my personal oshis is Aqua, I'll try to give FWMC a chance but their debut didn't give me a good impression, although I could be wrong kek.
No. 330659
>>330615Yeah, I honestly like all of them and they've become the first full gen of Hololive I keep up with. Shiori turned me off bigtime at first due to the disappointment of her not actually being a litfag, but I find her game choices/handcam streams fun. I'd usually mind the GFE more but she's too goofy for me to take it seriously lol.
Nerissa is probably my least watched, mostly because of the light coomerism and her yuribait. I'm a lesbian but yuribait just really turns me off regardless of the streamer's actual orientation.
They all seem like nice, enthusiastic girls, though. I'm rooting for them.
No. 330709
>>330704I usually love women with deeper voices, but something about Kunai's voice is unfortunately just such a turn off for me.
Victoria was a little awkward, but I can see her being great once she gets past her nerves. Claude sounded comfortable and confident, he seems like he'll be fine.
Not really compelled to watch any of them.
No. 330710
>>330704Kunai's tastes have a lot in common with me so I'll keep watching her for now. I like her humor. I agree with
>>330706 I didn't understand why she did the same boring thing she made fun of at the beginning lol but I like her humor too so I might watch her. I don't remember much from Claude despite him being the last one, was pretty unmemorable except he's into BL I guess? That's not too unique in Niji though.
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So Vox is making a “film”.
I low key wanna give him props for actually doing something that has to do with making a film rather than trying to make “serious” boyfriend asmrs.
However it’s so hard to take him seriously, he clearly wants to be a looked at as a serious film maker. However it’s hard to see him that way when he got his start doing boyfriend asmrs. Honestly it’s hard to see him that way because at the end of the day he’s a damn vtuber.
But hey at least he’s trying.
No. 330826
>>330825this looks so corny
also the fact that it's coming from someone who's probably just a doughy, average-looking guy is kekky
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>>330615Nerissa and Biboo's sleepover was really cozy, I love the bird's relaxed energy. I tried Shiori for a while but agreed that her fanbase is absolutely the worst one and get upset that gasp, a woman in her twenties who is probably cute IRL has had multiple boyfriends. They're all so hypocritical with their expectations of her and infight all the time, I hate moids so much. They're all insistent on how roasties and pick-mes are sooooo bad all while being so blind that Shiori's entire kayfabe is a quirky pickme who absolutely knows what she is doing. Only sad bit is recently she's realized just how mentally ill said fanbase is and how far they will go (look at Fauna currently…) and she's having to backtrack a bit from wanting to be a cute housewife to insisting they find their own gfs. Stupid Novelite moids.
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I started listening to Kiara recently, because I began to see and admire her tryhard energy. Aside from Mori, it seems like she's the only one in Myth who still cares about Hololive and takes it seriously.
I think I was initially filtered by her crazy design and how hard she was trying to keep a cute voice in the beginning. However, I think she talks in a much more normal voice now. Plus, she seems like she's always working on new stream ideas and projects.
I like her girly normie energy. She seems like she'd be fun to go shopping with or travel with.
Tl;dr: I finally gave Kiara a shot, and I think I will come to like her. Don't listen to 4chan's hateboner for her.
No. 330919
>>330889If 4chan hates someone, it's usually cause they're enjoyable and pleasant to watch.
t.Mori and Kiara enjoyer.
No. 330948
>>330931Who do you think 4chan likes(woman cause they obviously hate males) in EN side of Vtubing? I know Gura, P*ppa, and I guess FWMC.
On a similar note, I feel like THAT board likes a lot of JP without knowing Japanese, because if they did, they'd be more anti threads.
No. 331196
>>331017Honestly I have no idea what the movie will be about. Probably something lore related, I doubt it will be good though. Vtuber lore is genuinely the last thing you’d want to use for a serious “film” . Besides that it’ll probably be just a slideshow too.
But who knows, maybe it’ll defy our expectations.
No. 331269
>>331210His fans will probably eat it up no matter what in all honesty.
Honestly I think it’s mainly because it’s Vox that I have so little hope for this project. If it was a smaller vtuber I agree that it would be pretty impressive even if it’s a slideshow.
But considering how it’s Vox who wants to be seen as a “serious” filmmaker I’m gonna judge it harsher. Also I’m just not the biggest fan of Vox .
No. 331342
>>331325Same, I want a twin the way they're twins. I have multiple sets of twins in my family who get aet along to various degrees from pretty well to terribly (not on speaking terms) so I get that what they have is a very unique circumstance even among twins. But what they have seems really comforting and nice. Just, like, reliable, you know?
It's kind of the same with Bettel and Bettel to, for me. When they live together and can count on each other for life shit and talk about getting meals and splitting rent and stuff it makes me jealous.
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completely unrelated but I see a lot of japanese ladies who seem to love Iroha, which other holos have a sizeable/vocal female fanbase? personally haven't watched anything of her but I think she's kinda dorky
No. 331520
>>331431>Graduated vtubers having to get rid of their previous models I mean, I can see that being plausible in some cases but even if you look at the graduations of last year, this isn’t true
>Getting rid of models even if they’re used for auditionsAnon, if this was the case, Shiori would’ve had to change her past life persona millions of times
No. 331590
>>331455I'm not saying they can't keep their persona/accounts, but that the particular moving vtuber model can't be used. Orc has only used reacting gifs since returning, sayu also only used gifs because her model is still being made.
What led me to this train of thought was that connor said he could no longer use his model anymore.
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otome?
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>>331756correct me if I'm wrong but didn't she push the "mommy" shtick herself with doing an "ara ara mommy voice" multiple times, doing ASMR content of ear cleaning and having the viewer pretend they're laying their head on her lap, and having encouraged artists to draw art of her in a cowkini? she actively plays into that sort of content from what I've seen.
No. 331775
>>331772IMO it's a similar deal to what's now occurring with Shior
Both women sort of lean into catering for their male fanbases, but that doesn't mean there aren't boundaries to how far they're willing for it to go. But males are genuinely unhinged and will take a mile when you give them an inch, so they end up with insane male fans who go mental over the slightest contamination of their mental images of these women.
I'm not interested in blaming them for how things are, as they both seem like relatively nice and healthy girls whose general fanbases don't deserve what they try to take from them. But people should really learn from/predict this shit happening since it's a tale as old as time when it comes to female streamers.
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Actually, who is everybody's favorite from each Hololive English gen? For me:
Myth at debut: Amelia, she just seemed cute and I liked her game choices. Got tired of her content quickly, especially as I really dislike "your mom" jokes.
Currently: Kiara. She really grew on me. I'm not an active viewer of any Myth members, but the consistent effort and passion she has put into her role really won me over. Calli is a close runner up for how much she has grown as a vtuber and contributed to Hololive as a brand. Her music may not be for me, but Hololive is definitely thenplace for her.
Council at debut: Sana, because she was actually friend of a friend in her PL and I was rooting for her to succeed. She brought a certain earnest wholesomeness, and I was sad to see her graduate, but I understand why it didn't work out and think it's for the best.
Currently: Nobody in particularm although I don't hate anybody either. They've been sort of a slowburn gen for me where I like seeing them plug along but don't get super hyped for them. If I had to watch anybody it'd probably be Fauna. Mumei's recent song made me cry.
Advent at debut: FuwaMoco hands down, I love them and still do but I just am not that compelled to watch most of their content. I'm excited to see them go far, though, and their morning show is a nice pick me up for me.
Currently: Surprisingly Shiori, despite her being my least favorite at debut. I just find myself gravitating to her choices in stream content more often then not and she's my most watched Holo member these days. I do not interact with her fanbase, just as I do not interact with vtuber fanbases as a whole, and will continue to practice this aversion based on recent comments in the thread.
Feel free to do for any other branch of Holo as well, I'm just cutting it here because it'll get too long otherwise.
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>>331787 following what other Nona said
Myth at debut: Ina, she was the one whose design stranded out the most. Very chill and friendly girl, not a fan of her game choices but I listen to her zatsus from time to time.
Currently: Kiara. Not my oshi by any means by I find it endearing how much she tryhards being an idol, it's nice to see there's still people in this company that just don't do it for the sake of getting their paycheck.
Council at debut: Nobody. I don't hate any of the girls but it took me a while to get an interest in them.
Currently: Mumei. Partially because of her PL and the nostalgia I have for it, when she talked about wanting to join hololive because she wanted to make female friends and her social anxiety I couldn't help but relate to her, it's dumb, sure, but I really treasure her. I also love Fauna, at first I avoided her because of her fanbase but her game choices stood up the most for me… Anyone should try to give her a try, if you look past the gfe asmrs you will find someone with a very intelligent sense of humor.
Advent at debut: Shiori. I thought she'd be a cool addition to hololive because of her husbando taste and her literature choices but it's obvious she doesn't have any idea of what she's saying.
Currently: Nerissa. Perhaps not a lot of people might like her because yeah she's kinda coomerish but I can't help but admire her, she almost cried druing karaoke because of some issues regarding audio. Another idol enjoyer just like Kanata and Kiara!
I could probably go more in-depth with holoJP but I don't want to ruin the thread with my idol/Holo spergout.
No. 331803
>>331798I'll HoloJP spergout if you do! It's always refreshing to hear about them from nonmoids.
NGL there are a few Holo fans I'd love to connect with in the friend finder thread ITT. It's so hard to find vtuber fans who watch the same chuubas as me without being moids or handmaidens.
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>>331803ayrt here it goes
nonnie>Gen 0Suisei and Miko. Originally I avoided Miko's solo content because of her voice but over time I've grown fond of her silly antics, her due with Suisei is so adorable and you can just tell they enjoy hanging out with each other beyond simple business! Suisei started at the bate bottom and I can't help but admire her, she's so funny and always tries to help the girls when they're in a bad place.
>Gen 1Not much was done to foster a group identity tbh.Even so, I could say that my faves are Aki and FBK, I admire the effort Aki has even knowing that her PL is married, unfortunately many of her talents are something that not many would see on stream which is sad because I would seriously love it if more people had her appreciated. Fubuki is a straight-to-the-point entertainer, although her character is a fox girl in her early 20s but her game choices tend to be old games, I usually see her in other holomems' chats.
>Gen 2Aqua-tan! a bit of a gap Moe tbh she's a competition freak with no hesitation to beat others but also a rather socially anxious and clumsy girl, I am so glad she has grown of her cocoon and has decided to interact more with others.
>GAMERSI'm very fond of everyone in this group but I'd say the closest thing to an oshi would be Korine and Mio. Mío has a maternal energy and is always willing to help other girls, I usually try catching up with her morning Mío streams; Korine is a ball of sunshine and I don't usually need to pay a lot of attention to what she's doing since her commentary is quite good.
>Gen 4My personal favorite generation! I'd say most of the members are pretty charismatic and offer a lot of funny moments even with the departure of Rushia. I did use to sort of cling to her because I thought she was just playing a character and the whole menhera thing was just a schtick kek. My oshi is Marine, I know a lot of peeps might have a negative outlook of her because clippers don't usually give justice to her content, she's someone whose passionate about internet culture, a lot of people misinterpret her burikko kayfabe and will genuinely think she behaves like that kek there's a lot of passion in her zatsu and projects.
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>>331855samefagging
>Gen 4They are a particularly close knit gen who often treat each other like family.
Kanata is a girl with a somewhat clumsy and awkward body language but she is nonetheless someone who is passionate about her work as an idol and she doesn't just do it for the simple fact of getting her paycheck. Watame is someone with a lot of empathy and I can't help but see her as a little sister to me, I cried when I saw the recent live concert, she is cute and her Japanese is simple. It saddens me that the jp scrotes have made Towa feel ashamed of her nasal voice, I find her somewhat uncomfortable and sometimes I wish she would stop paying so much attention to those types of people because I see her as someone I look up to.
>Gen 5Nothing against any of the girls but imo it's probably the most forgettable gen. Lamy is cute and sexy, I often find myself listening to her ASMRs when I have trouble sleeping, she's probably the one with the most underrated chat interactions and banters. Occasionally, I find myself to be playing alongside her fps streams but I do tune in for the more laid-back streams, couldn't help but mourn along her when she lost the SF6 tournament she put so much effort and practice. Nenechi is very funny, she does kind of pander to scrotes but it's more in the sense of getting pay-pigs but outside that she's fine.
>Gen 5 My second favorite generation. Lui reminds me of those ladies that participate on theater. she is something of a big sister to the rest of HoloX, and even jokes about her being intended to be a older-sister type (thought don't be fooled, she's a bit of an eccentric woman kek). Iroha seems to be popular with japanese women because I see a lot of girls in my timeline with itabags and shrines dedicated to her. Haven't watched much of her but by my first impressions she seems to be dorky and a shrinking violet so I guess that's why she has a "she's just like me fr fr" to them kek. Chloe is my kamioshi! I found it amusing how open she was to wanting money and talking about her BL fetish tastes, it's the perfect mixture between being cute, sexy and snarky though to some nonas her gfe can be a turn off but it's not like she does that on all streams.
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>>330615I was really rooting for Nerissa, her first stream was so fun but it's been sad to see her coomerfication (kek). I had the same feelings of Bijou, I remember showing up to one of her Hitman streams and she was just screaming BALLS BALLS DO YOU WANT TO TASTE MY BALLS??? and I instantly unsubbed. The Fuwamoco sisters are really hardworking and are most in-tune with Japanese idol culture, so I've gravitated the most towards them now.
No. 331928
>>331787Myth @ Debut : Mori, I really thought she was cool and her release song was catchy as fuck. I also liked that she wasn't the average "idol"
Plus making moids seethe by existing is basedMyth now : Still Mori, but I also now like Kiara. I couldn't stand her constant crying and sperging about views and sub count, but she stopped that so I'm happy for her.
Council @ Start : I don't watch much of Council but Kronii. Kroniichiwa
Council now : No one, unforunately. If I have time I'll watch Kronii but otherwise I don't care for anyone enough.
Advent : Shiori, love husbandofags very much.
Advent now : No one
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>>331787Myth at Debut: Ina or Mori, since I was drawn to their designs the most. I still they're great, and definitely talented, but I hardly watch them stream.
Currently: Pleasantly surprised to see others mentioning Kiara. At first, I didn't know much about her, besides a little bit about her pl. After seeing some posts from anons dedicated to shitting on her, I decided to watch her streams myself to make my own judgment. I easily was drawn to her personality, and really appreciated how communicative and kind she is with her fans. She always works hard, and I admire her greatly. I consider her my oshi, and although I don't watch vtubers as often as I used to, I still support her when I can in streams and with merch.
Council at Debut: I thought Bae or Kronii would definitely be my favorite. Never ended up watching her much after though.
Currently: I do try to keep up with Mumei's streams now and then. I love her design, and think she's cute. I wanted to get into Fauna but her voice filtered me personally, as I don't really like listening to high pitched voices/prefer her "deep" voice which is probably closer to how she sounds irl I think (I know Moom's voice is higher pitched as well but it doesn't bother me for some reason.)
Advent at Debut: Nerissa, and potentially Fuwawa and Mococo. I did like Bijou's scuffed powerpoint debut as well, thought it was really funny and clever. I felt completely disappointed by Shiori for various reasons. I love her model's design but that's about it.
Currently: Nerissa, I know she does coomer pandering here and there which isn't my favorite lol. But I love her voice, and her singing is gorgeous. I have a lot of fun in her streams, and loved her chemistry with Kiara in their minecraft collab. I think it's cute how supportive she was for Kiara with her pl on Kiara's older videos.
As for Holostars EN, I'll just say that my favorites were initially Axel and Vesper. Still think Axel is pretty great, and I'm honestly a fan of everyone in Tempus right now, especially Hakka, Shinri, and Bettel.
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No. 332902
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What in the Deviantart OC??
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Riro from idolcorp (an actual vtuber company with huge backing) selling some sort of service where she’ll drug herself and record porn, I guess. Also talks of meeting with fans and apparently has an asmr where she sexually roleplays as a under 10-year-old child getting molested. This is the EN vtubing community, folks.
No. 332944
>>332912That’s genuinely so repulsive and disturbing.
Idc if it’s “role play” anyone who indulges in that type of fantasy is sick.
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I love Kiara and I love Mori!
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Going to sperge for a minute but I hate Shuca so much. I'll be excited for the day clawmino takes over, and I don't even seriously ship them. Shu and Luca just seem like casual buddies to me, but even when Luca joined Claude's recent valorant stream, all the Shucafags made it about how Luca is so jealous of them. They hyper-analyze every interaction because they've never had close friends before
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>Mori going on semi-hiatus
I'm going insane, nonnies. Why? WHAT COULD IT BE.
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>>333800I hope she is. In the sense of she's been working real bloody hard and I hope that it's just that and nothing more.
It could also be shes prepping for her surgery which was mentioned a while back.
What I'm NOT hoping is that she's thinking about leaving or something
No. 334236
>>332692Sayu's face is all over the internet because she used to be a fleshtuber. You can find it pretty easily by looking up Sayu Okami or
Sayuha (her username before she became Sayu Okami).
>>332904Vox is 23, assuming the birthday on his PL's profiles are his real birthday.
>>332912Not surprised tbh. Selling sex worked for Yuko and Coni's entire fanbase is lolicons so Idol hard panders to coomers now.
No. 334622
>>334600Koreans have a big issue with being overly patriotic to the point that when someone states an objective fact about their country that could be taken negatively , they get viscerally angry.
Even if they did genuinely take it as an insult, it’s painfully obvious Kyo didn’t meant it that way, threatening him is crazy.
The craziest part about it is that a lot of Koreans will say objectively worse shit about other countries and their people and think it’s ok. Because this large amount of patriotism has lead Koreans to being incredibly xenophobic.
I mean look at the reason the WEBTOON “get schooled” was taken down off English platforms.
No. 335386
>>335200Am I the only one that thinks people mad at Kyo for the enna situation are overreacting?
Maybe I missed something but from the og vid he had a pretty appropriate response to ennas impression that was obviously gonna be taken as racist whether he said something or not. Enna fans acted like he went on a hate tirade calling her evil and racist or something, when all he did was tell her the obvious.
Like I can’t blame him for his reaction, if he had said nothing or just awkwardly laughed it would’ve looked bad on his part.
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No. 335544
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Kek at untalented indies malding over not getting into Hololive and then blaming it on racism. Everyone knows that it’s insanely difficult to get into a reputable agency; they literally take 5 applicants out of a pool of thousands, if not 10s of thousands of applicants. It has nothing to do with you being POC. Besides, there are plenty of Hololive and Nijisanji livers in EN and ID that aren’t white.
No. 335631
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>>335544Not gonna look up who this tuber is but 99% chance their streams are boring or mid-tier at best despite them being 'hardworking' or streaming x hours a week for x number of months.
Also 90%+ chance their 'talents' are something like drawing (at the level of an 8th grader in an anime club), gaming (duh), and something that doesn't really have a role in streaming, like cosplay or candlemaking or some shit.
Not trying to be mean, they might be a very sweet and hardworking person. Also this isn't aimed at this particular person, but at most indies who have this attitude. Indie vtubers need to realize that 90%+ of them aren't cut out for corporate vtubing lifestyle, and out of those 10% who make it into some form of a corpo, only maybe like 10% of those will make a livable wage.
No. 335632
>>335631sorry for my sperg, I'm an indie vtuber who's doing it for fun, but tired of 1views acting like Hololive should be begging at their feet
Anyways Holostars EN released a dating sim. Looks like it might be fun for nonnas who like them. Only $13, though idk how long it is or if there's CGs.
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New HolostarsEN unit. /vt/ seething as per usual. Not interested in male vtubers but if they seethe I happy.
Also can someone confirm is Zentraya is a troon or not? I
No. 335958
>>335940Nice. As long as Cover is keeping to the same standards they had with the first two gens, I'm sure it'll be fun.
What happened with Magni and Vesper was unfortunate, but I blame them and not cover for it. While they were cooperative, they were good contributors to Holostars… In both their cases, seeemd like they crashed and burned themselves.
Tangent, but with this it does seem like Cover's stated intention of ramping up debut output starting with Advent was true. Wonder if we can expect to see new Holo ID and JP gens within the next year as well, unless ReGloss counted as the new debut gen for JP overall despite being a new branch.
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>Doppio from Niji makes a cute fan project by commissioning templates for "evolved" fan mascots (og mascot is a chick)
>You can customize hair, skin, clothing colour and about everything really
>Fans get mad because they want to larp as men
You're watching an attractive man with an attractive voice acting like a himbo and getting cutely flustered when the game mentions sex despite being a female oriented sex worker in his past life. Who are you kidding kek trannies just have to make everything about themselves. He spent so much money and thought on these designs yet trannies took away all his excitement.
No. 335965
>>335953Jurard T Rex - KamiyaJuu
Goldenbullet - SuperKrazyBones
Crimzon Ruze - Rimmu
Octavio - Karlobster
A bit iffy on Octavio but pretty sure I got all their PLs
No. 336001
>>335959Him being a sex worker sounds interesting, can you tell me more about that?
>>335965I hate vtuber names that are supposed to be puns. T. Rexford… give me a break. Recently I saw a magician vtuber named Abi Kadabura and I wanted to anhero.
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>>335940Well, that's a debut I'm not watching
No. 336027
>>336001>sex workerHe had a patreon where he made sexual audios acting out characters from MHA and Genshin (afaik). He was a tame vtuber when he streamed so he was always drawing a line between himself and the "side work" he had on patreon but most of his audience found him via those audios anyway.
>>336017I don't know why they all feel off. I was excited because Tempus2 were all great recruits but these guys feel so cringe. Their jokes don't land right.
No. 336085
>>336027It reminds me of Nijisanji style debut humor. Maybe this is nitpicky, but I don't mind a little spicy wink-wink-nudge-nudge flirtation or suggestive content once in a while. But the outright "I'M A DISCORD MOD" is a bit distasteful for me.
Could be grasping at straws, but also, the association between discord mods and going after kids is a bit… uh… I wouldn't personally make a debut tweet comparing myself to a discord mod.
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Sayu was never a fully seiso vtuber but damn she'll really do anything for a shred of attention. Also the blush rigging… kekw
No. 336381
>>336380Really don't know what Cover is thinking casting him in a role parallel to Altare's as leader for the new group, or so it seems so far. He has zero charisma beyond a decent voice that can sound forced depending on your taste. I usually don't subscribe to rrats but I wouldn't be shocked if Altare's persistent noninteraction with Armis has to do with Rex.
Other three guys seem okay. Ruze has actually been pretty funny in his Twitter interactions so far, so I'm interested in seeing how he is as a streamer. The ridiculous chuuni thing he has going on reminds me of Doppio, kek.
No. 336384
>>336259I don't follow Doppio, but tbh, I don't think I'd feel that bothered by a male vtuber making porn audio, especially if it's female-oriented. Porn audio for straight femanons is nice. The only thing is that 95% of men can't pull it off without being cringe and disgusting.
>>336262Why are her eyes blushing, too? Does she have pink eye? Seems like niji lost a real gem with this one!
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I still can't believe they let this guy spearhead the new gen, let alone let him into holo
No. 336568
>>336561I had my reservations at the beginning because I tend to be wary of gay content creators, but he's actually very chill and cute.
Jurard on the other hand is unbearable.
>>336529Savage kek
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>>336586This was his PL content, so…
No. 336800
>>336796Thanks for keeping us updated.
IDK how sustainable Ruze's character will be in the long term, but he was really funny and cute. Even if he dials it back a lot, he's naturally witty enough that he'll be a fun watch.
Overall? Goldbullet is a potential new oshi, loved Ruze and Octavio for their debut kayfabe, Jurard will have to prove himself past his reputation thus far.
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>>336804Jurard was pretty loud but they have solid synergy as a group
I love Ruze already, he's a new oshi for sure.
No. 336818
>>336808I like his name, but it's not very search engine friendly… Also not a hugeee fan of our fan name, WBU?
I love his incoming game picks, though. And I'm over the moon about his stream time, I've only ever managed to watch Vesper and FWMC consistently, so a new morning streamer is always welcome.
No. 336825
>>336818Yeah, I’m not too big on bubbies either. I think I’d prefer campers but I don’t feel too strongly about either options. Maybe a better alternative will arise one day…
I tend to sleep really late so maybe his streams will finally motivate me to wake up early!
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He's so fucking manic and stupid and obnoxious. I think he's my oshi.
No. 336993
>>336971Right? I've seen some argument to the contrary, but honest I think he did a good job keeping the conversation going without talking over everybody else (which is what I was afraid of).
They do need to work on some sound levelling for future collabs due to how loud Jurard is though, kek… I could barely hear Goldie at times.
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I miss him
No. 337128
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>2nd stream ever
>do anything in his power to get the vod removed
>screech
>leave
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Yeah I'm gonna menshi this guy
No. 337186
>>337175He admitted that he got help from a Holo girl to pass the audition.
I don't personally believe it's such a bad thing to do, but the way he brags about it looks pretty bad, and him talking about it in a stream it's pretty retarded to begin with
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Just watched Ruze's debut since I wasn't able to catch it live and I really love him so far! I admire the attention of detail he puts into performing as a believable character, everything feels very cohesive. His model fits him and his energy perfectly.
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wilson intentionally took a fanartist' design and commissioned another artist to 1 to 1 it for him to use as his "official" mascot. this is a really shitty thing to do, he basically stole it and creditted the entire design to another artist
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>>338075original artist's design
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>>338081Oh that's awful. He even admitted it. The og design is cuter so perhaps the commissioned artist is a friend he wanted to give work to lol. If he wanted those tiny changes he could ask the og artist to do it. I wouldn't expect this from an inoffensive and careful streamer like him. Just checked his twitter and I can't tell if he's just panicking or he got into trouble with management (hence the suspension).
No. 338099
>>338083i dont get his thought process, was he seriously not going to credit the og artist at all if no one caught him? its not like he made a mistake he wasnt aware of or only referenced a generic axolotl that had no relations to his brand, he knew someone else made the design intending it to be wilsoneer and intentionally got someone else to redraw it and chose not to credit the og artist.
How would this have gone any other way?
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After seeing the two Armis collabs so far, like others I do think Rex seems notably better when at least one other person is around. Like his bratty yelling shounen MC thing has something to get softened with instead of bouncing around so sharply and very loudly off the walls. I'm still really liking Ruze a lot, I feel like he has pretty detailed and solid convictions behind his opinions on various things and media compared to several other male vtubers I've given a try. Goldbullet I wouldn't usually think is my type of vtuber but he's been surprisingly charming with his game commentary or reactions. Octavio I haven't been able to catch up with yet to listen more from him past the debut, but he has a good voice and some good moments too in the collabs. I don't know if I'll end up looking much at Armis besides following Ruze and whenever they have collabs with either each other or tempus/holostars but I can see the reasoning behind why they were picked, even Rex
No. 338182
>>338165it disturbs me that he intentionally went out of his way to get a(noticeably bigger followed) artist to make basically 0 changes to it though. Like why not dm the og artist? Why go out of your way to get another artist to make you the exact same thing?
It just disturbs me that this is being treated like an innocent mistake when he had to go out of his way to save the og art, seek out another artist, discuss with this artist to change basically nothing, and post said art shouting out the new artist all the while knowing that someone else came up with the entire design.
Also really weird of that other artist to basically act as if they came up with the entire design also knowing they referenced almost all of it from someone else.
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>>338075What enrages me about the whole thing is he genuinely believes he did nothing wrong, to the point he admitted he stole the design when replying to THE ORIGINAL ARTIST
In other news, Vox is trying to pull some RP shit since he wants to kill his coomer reputation, and it's backfiring hard kek
No. 338593
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>>337966Like that other nona said you can just look through previous threads. That being said, someone I've not seen recommended in previous threads that I've been enjoying lately is Vantacrow. His personality is not what you would think judged on his model alone. Trust me on this one.
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>>338673Meanwhile Shinri of the actual idol company Holopro is asking for nudes
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Samefag, I hope this is the last of the projects that got delayed byVesper and Magni leaving. It’s wild how just the exclusion of these two pushed the cover back 3 months. Still baffles me that despite everything, the guy who played Magni is trying to switch to vtubing with a model that looks similar to Magni.
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>>338624Honestly, I just like him because I enjoy gap moe personalities and how silly and goofy he is despite his sexy animu boy model, especially when he goes off on tangents about random weird shit in his streams. I agree that he's not for everybody but he's chill and I like having his streams as background noise when I do other things.
(Also he seems to genuinely enjoy streaming based on how much he does it, which is refreshing considering there's so much drama surrounding vtubers in this day and age lol)
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>>338992Help, the shoehorned catboy elements are so bad