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Post about everything fashion related; designers, collections, the industry, jobs, experiences, influences and effects on ordinary people and your life, the past, the future, the present, etc.
>Fashion 101Teach us the basics, the must knowns, the do’s and don’ts.
>HistoryEnlighten us with all your knowledge; be either by wallposting, sperging or with extra materials/resources (ex. links, documentaries, articles, PDFs, etc.)
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>VentingShare all your woes and sorrows about anything and everything fashion related.
>MemeingJust cause we have triple digit IQs doesn’t mean we can’t unwind and have fun once in a while. So show us your handmade, one of a kind, couture memes.
As always, general rules apply: Keep it civil, be yourself and have fun. Don’t entertain bait, painfully obtuse anons or seething “fashionistas”. And don’t let your head get too big. Posting milk/drama is not encouraged so keep it at a minimum.
This is not an advice thread so refrain from asking what should you wear to your sister cousin second nephew divorced wife graduation wedding party. if you need that kind of help go to
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Posting one of my venti spergs
No. 368035
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FRUMPCORE
No. 368036
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Does frumpy generally mean modest? And does modest necessarily mean frumpy?
No. 368039
>>368036Also I'll add, I don't consider the pictures you linked to be frumpy. If you're
>>368035 this style probably wouldn't have been considered frumpy when it was taken. The short hairstyle and shorter skirt would be considered fairly modern I think.
For the other picture, those girls have fairly groomed hair and tidy faces, their outfits have coordination. If we're measuring frumpy outfits on a scale I wouldn't rate them higher than like 5 or 6.
this thread is fun No. 368040
>>368036I think the defining feature of frumpiness is a totally obscured figure, so no. There are modest clothes that are still flattering. I don't think kinderwhore (wretch) constitutes as frumpy because it's still meant to be sexually appealing.
>>368039>those girls have fairly groomed hair and tidy facesit's about wearing baggy comfy clothes not literally looking like shit kek
No. 368042
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>>368041>akshually muh fashion that literally translates to child whore and is all about dressing like a sexually provocative little girl wasn't meant to be sexual originallyand no it's not comparable to lolita fashion.
No. 368044
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>>368043noooo
nonnie you don't get it, she's totally subverting the male gaze with this. Men HATE it when women wear red lipstick and pout a lot.
No. 368045
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>>368044oh my bad
nonny, I forgot males run for the hills in disgust when we wear little silk dresses, a pair of dark see-through pantyhose, heels and a full face of makeup while infantilize our sexuality because they obviously despise it.
No. 368046
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Unpopular opinion but I don't really care, I love all that grimy grunge 90s thrift store shit.
No. 368047
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>>368046whatever courtney was wearing wasn't any of what you mentioned, grimy sure cause she was always tossing and rolling herself on the ground but grunge is literally picrel.
No. 368049
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>>368042>>368043Kinderwhore was similar to drag as it took elements from traditional feminine aesthetics, exaggerated them to a caricature level, and thus subverted them to challenge embedded insecurities.
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>>368049I love that you went to wikipedia for this one. Even if what you said holds an ounce of truth is so obviously disingenuous, specially coming from courtney. If she wanted to go for a "baby jane moment" then why add all those sexualized choices? the shortness of the dresses, the pantyhose and the very appealing makeup. Is wanted to look sexy and she did, don't try to justify it via "oh she's challenging female insecurity". How can challenging female insecurity and prejudice from the patriarchal system look like a child prostitute?
No. 368051
>>368046there's nothing wrong with liking it, it's just intellectually dishonest to claim it was 'made to be sexually unappealing'
>>368047Courtney is a grunge icon. She was literally filthy.
>>368049why did you attach the one supposed example of this style that doesn't incorporate heavy makeup, heels, or any of the aspects that make it kinder 'whore'? To me this is just a girl with fucked up hair wearing a housedress from the 50s. I guess she's going for like, Baby Doll (1956) or something? Also, you're pretentious.
No. 368053
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>>368052As the creator of the thread I'm having a blast watching the dog fighting while I wait for the wallposts.
No. 368059
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I miss John Galliano but like all fashion fags he has the propensity to say the most deranged shit.
No. 368060
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>>368059me too
nonny, even his controversial ideas were something to talk about, but always had an eye for fantasy and story telling. Picrel from his 2004 W/A collection, it made quiet a steer.
No. 368062
Thank you
nonny for this threads, I needed it so badly.
I believe that scrotes should be banned from being editors in-chief in Vogue and other mainstream fashion publication. You can keep your shit like Dazed or i-D anyway because none of them was solely targeted to women.
>>368061I don't get appeal of Jeremy Scott, especially his work for Moschino which I find more tacky than fun, his stuff doesn't really feel subversive. I kinda like his earliest collections where he was early on 80s revival but never got appeal of anything else he does.
No. 368063
>>368062>Dazed or i-Dgood lord the absolute butchering they did to those magazines is beyond tragic, I get they're for the freaks and geeks but the fetishistic, hyper-sexual and degenerate shit they've been publishing for the last couple of years is just disgusting.
>Jeremy Scottkek I agree, did you ever watched this mini doc on youtube when he said he was rejected from fashion school because of a "lack of creativity and originality" and the fag interviewing him gives him the bedroom eyes throughout the whole thing?
No. 368065
>>368063>absolute butchering they did to those magazines is beyond tragicI agree so hard nona. Dazed was really fun, I also like their lifestyle content from their early issues. With i-D it feels different for me though and people barely talk about their hypocrisy. i-D outside fashion is basically as it used to be back in early 90s with rabid and really annoying wokeism used only to virtue signal.
>I get they're for the freaks and geeks but the fetishistic, hyper-sexual and degenerate shit they've been publishing for the last couple of years is just disgusting.Dazed was on this shit already in the 90s and it just got worse, because back then they balanced them with other editorials. 80s and 90s i-D weren't really porn-y at all and I like that but, things started to change later on anyway.
Both Dazed and i-D are on life support for past 20 years, because time of british style bible died ages ago and they coped with becoming shitty pseudo alt-Vogues with most rabid and annoying content on their web versions.
>>368063I heard about him being rejected and centering his identity about that, but I didn't see this doc. Thanks nona, will check it out
No. 368073
>>368072Not going to defend the name, but
>It's taking colors and looks from very obviously childish aestheticsThis is really only the case for a certain type of sweet lolita. You can dislike the style all you want but most of it doesn't look childish at all, or fetishy for that matter.
No. 368077
>>368072Not even 24 hours in and there's already Lolita fights
>>368053Avatarfagging as Anna Wintour is kinda cringe and I'm glad another anon says her style sucks.
No. 368078
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But what do we think bout the fall 2020 ready-to-wear versace high-heeled platform rain boot?
No. 368082
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>>368078guys guys wouldn't it be cool if we also, like, make sneakers, but, like, with heels
like, it's shoes for sport, but you know, for gurlz
crazy, I know…
No. 368087
>>368081Lolita is the nickname of the raped child in that book, that book is the first time lolita was ever used as a word, loli also originates from that book.
Either way, both styles are usually worn by overweight autistic women or trannies, no normal person hyperfixates on them. Trannies especially love lolita.
Also kinder means child in german so the style literally means childwhore, it was always pedpphilic in nature and it's suspicious of you to defend the two styles that take name from pedophilia.
No. 368089
>>368087Lolita as a fashion precedes that "gothic loli"(little sexualized bugeyed girl in frilly dress) image in manga/anime. Lolita isn't influenced by lolicon, it's the other way around.
>>368085I appreciate it, but the thread would be overwhelmed with jfashion sperging too fast, as it already kind of started kek. I'd rather enjoy nonnies discussing more high fashion designers and brands.
>>368088I know and already post in it, but it's kinda dead. Maybe we could move it to /ot/ instead?
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Can this thread not include lolita shit PLEASE? You guys need to go back to /cgl?
Anyways So I was a big fan of the real housewives of NY and was curious when they said they were going to have a complete new cast some months ago. One of the newbies is Jenna Lyons who I had no idea who she was. Seems like she was the boss of J.Crew? I zeroed on her because every single time I've seen a pic of her related to the RHONY she's dressed like utter shit, ridiculously try-hard and with a terrible fit (pic attached, she's the second from the left). She is cute but girl, dress your age please and ditch those glasses that make you look like you're 80.
No. 368093
>>368089The term lolita comes from the book, retard. The book was written way before this fashion style and female autists who were probably into wanting to be seen as child dolls took a term that's used in a book that revolves around the pains of a groomed child. You can't change that fact no matter how much you lie. You're romanticizing a fashion style that's named after a raped and murdered child.
I don't understand why you autists defend this term so much when it's obvious where it originates from.
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>>1579126Nayrt but guys, seriously… you have your own thread
>>>/m/208345 . Please go there for all of your discussion and nitpicking. I have absolutely not interest in lolita and I'm sure other anons feel the same. Let's be cool for once and have our own spaces without coming into threads just to pick fights. Lolitas, y'all are cool, I'm respectfully admire you from afar, you are dedicated AF, but I don't wanna talk about your fashion here.
No. 368096
I wish we had more practical hats. I need sun protection that doesn't get fucked up by the slightest breeze or make me look like I fell out of a beach. baseball caps are so trashy.
>>368078high heels are torture devices and mutilate your feet. stop ruining your body to cater to the male gaze.
all women's shoes are designed to have cramped toeboxes that jam your toes out of alignment just so your feet can be more "feminine" which results in pain when walking and permanent deformity. men should be killed for this bullshit. no man's shoe has ever been designed to intentionally cause foot pain just to be more fashionable.
No. 368099
>>368098Oh, my bad. Thank you,
nonnie!
No. 368101
>>368097Low waist skinny jeans looked very flattering on my thin hourglass figure.
What I hated was the capris trend. The 3/4 pants don't suit
anyone. There is not a single body type that doesn't look worse wearing it.
No. 368103
>>368093kek, accusing others of lying while you completely talk out of your ass based on assumptions. There's also designer statements from back then regarding the use of the name, but I won't bother to dig them out since you're just angry baiting anyway.
>>368090>>368092>>368095Yeah alright, I agree!
No. 368115
>>368114Nta but I remember a read once that some random person that wanted to make fashion said that the name just sounded nice because rococo sounded nice with rorita?? I just know someone posted a link with the history of the name of lolita fashion and it was in some random ass blog.
My issue is that “lolicon” does come from the Nakobok book, and the term is from 1955, like the book. But Lolita is supposedly from the end of 1970, so like, it isn’t close to the lolicon stuff, nakobok’s book was surely not relevant in Japan when it was close to the 80’s.
My hypothesis is that the fashion was created and people thought that calling it rococo wasn’t edgy enough, so they took the idea that you’re supposedly dressing like a child from the rococo era and turned it into “Lolita” it’s not lolicon, because there’s no “complex”, it’s just probably a way to clean up the name Lolita, or a way to say that you’re dressing like a kid.
I don’t know, I’m just trying to comprehend what was the thought process of the people that tried to give a name to Lolita fashion.
No. 368116
>>368101the only people who willingly wear capris are older women. i think they like them because they're cooler in summer but still hide their varicose veins. for functionality i get it but they will never be fashionable in any sense.
>>368095>>368109>>368114i was just joking about bringing up lolita for you to fight over. please please don't let this thread become ita sperging. it's disconnected from pretty much every other form of fashion and outside of the lolita bubble no one cares. it's just boring to read about and it will take over the thread, i can already see it.
No. 368120
>>368119agree, most new styles are just aesthetics with no ties to the real world and it makes me a bit sad. i would argue kinderwhore is just a subsection of grunge though, which at least has (had?) a scene.
>>368118 curious, why do you think coquette is more flexible than kinderwhore? i feel like in practice they're pretty much the same thing. i feel like coquette would be more restrained actually, since it looks a lot "cleaner" than kinderwhore, so less room for just fucking around and having fun.
No. 368122
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i've been thinking about why i love 60s hippie and neohippie fashion so much but hate "boho chic" and i think it has a lot to do with the former being connected to real-world cultures and the later being connected to nothing. in the 60s hippies were a real subculture and people who dress in neohippie style today often have a cohesive lifestyle and set of beliefs that set them apart from the mainstream. in contrast, boho style was made up by influencers in the 2010s. it's not that you need to make everything about yourself conform to some set style–actually, i think that's pretty stupid–but fashion with nothing behind it just feels hollow to me. also, boho chic as a style removes so much of what i love about hippie and neohippie fasion. dressing like a hippie should be fun and bright and colourful! you should be able to wear clothes that look weird and aren't sexy and maybe don't even really match, because the point is that you're rejecting mainstream notions of beauty. boho chic takes superficial elements of hippie fashion, like crochet and fringe, and removes anything actually unique. it's like looking at a pug compared to a wolf. just ugly and wrong.
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I've loved reading this thread, one of our best new threads in a minute. I so badly wish I had something interesting to contribute, but instead I offer this gorgeous picture.
This is '98 spring Christian Dior. The collection this comes from was heavily inspired by Marchesa Luisa Casati, a 20th century Italian aristocrat who has known for her unique and eccentric fashion. Here's a link to the collection
https://www.vogue.com/fashion-shows/spring-1998-couture/christian-diorand a link to an article about Marchesa Luisa Casati for those interested.
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2003/09/22/the-divine-marquisehttps://www.vogue.com/article/marchesa-luisa-casati-beauty-smoky-eye-makeup-curls No. 368124
>>368121Lolitafags go continue sperging in /g/ in your containment thread.
>>368120Nta but coquette pieces are more wearable than kinder whore ones, it's also less controversial and the name alone doesn't ring alarm bells so a lot of teen girls embrace the coquette style in online places.
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>>368123Samefag, another pic because I think this collection is just so beautiful. I promise I won't spam though!
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Btw, I feel like it's very on brand for Lolcow for the first discussion/debate in this thread to be about Lolita kek.
>>368126>>368127Ok, here's more! And also more about Luisa Casati so you won't have to read the articles.
>In John Richardson’s biography of Picasso, he produces an anecdote about one of Casati’s infamous dinner parties, at which she drugged a snake and painted it gold, and wore it as a necklace. Sometimes she appeared with a makeshift necklace out of bites from her lover. In Venice, she would often take her ocelots and borzois on walks outside her palazzo wearing nothing but a fur coat, pearls, and a face full of makeup.>She was six feet tall and accentuated her height with extravagant headpieces. Accounts say she took doses of belladonna, a poisonous plant, to dilate her pupils and make them darker. She didn’t stop there: She topped her unnaturally obscure eyes with rows and rows of fake eyelashes—sometimes fashioning them out of strips of fabric—and powdered her skin porcelain. She painted her face in stark black and white, like a photograph of the period.>Among her more memorable get-ups was a suit of armor pierced with hundreds of electric arrows that short-circuited and nearly fried her; an iridescent necklace of live snakes that slithered from her bare shoulders at a ball; and a headdress of peacock tail feathers accessorized, for a night at the opera, by the blood of a freshly slaughtered chicken.>She commissioned a life-size wax mannequin of herself, with eyes of green glass and a wig purportedly made from her own hair; it sat at her dinner table dressed as her twin, and she brought it to Paris for fittings at Poiret. An emissary from Schiaparelli sent to solicit her business found her in bed in her hotel suite “covered with a rug of black ostrich feathers, eating a breakfast of fried fish and drinking straight Pernod while trying on a newspaper scarf.” To a performance of the Ballets Russes, she wore a gown of egret plumes that molted in the course of the evening. For a summer of drug abuse and sorcery on Capri, in 1920, she packed a wardrobe of black dresses with cathedral trains, dyed her hair green, painted the body of her servant gold (he collapsed in the heat and was saved from suffocation by her landlord, who scraped off the gilding), and paraded through the village streets carrying a crystal ball.An interesting woman indeed.
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>>368134And more. I see this first picture so often.
No. 368139
>>368136I hope I link this right,
>>>/snow/1730576 is the original post. Someone who knew purple frock anon irl later revealed that he is a tranny prostitute with a drug addiction
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>>368134>that whole greentextgood lord she is beyond iconic there's no way she was real kek. I love she carried snakes, ocelots and borzois around, what a queen.
No. 368141
>>368134you pushed me to do a little digging on her and I'm just hopelessly infatuated by her anon.
>Unsurprisingly, artists of every medium flocked to her side, and her generous patronage and limitless provision of subject matter made her one of the most artistically represented women in history. Painters, sculptors, dancers, authors, composers, directors, photographers, actors, poets and clothing designers were—and continue to be—inspired by her. The Futurist, Surrealist and Dadaist artistic movements owe much of their existence to Casati’s influence; she was the inspiration for Cartier’s trademark panther jewelry; Venice’s Palazzo de Leoni, now the Peggy Guggenheim Museum, was her former residence. No. 368142
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>>368129"mimosa girl in the desert" lol, that's a good way of putting it. i don't know if it was the first fashion without any connection but it definitely became popular right as social media, especially fashion blogging, was taking off. a lot of quintessential "2010 fashion blogger" stuff is boho chic, like big chunky stone jewellery, big useless belts, those big ass hats, aztec print everything, gladiator sandals… i think a lot of what makes it so ugly to me is the fact that it's designed to look whimsical and carefree while being extremely tailored and expensive. something about it is so mormon. like "conservative sister wife goes to woodstock."
No. 368143
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>>368140I do think some of the stuff said about her may have been embellished for entertainment purposes, but how fun is it to think that a woman like that really existed! John Galliano was the perfect person to do a collection on a figure like her
I honestly think he or Mugler would've been more worthy of being this year's Met Gala theme instead of Karl. Vivienne too but I feel like they would've butchered her style No. 368148
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>>368146obviously depends where you get it, but i agree. genuine hippie fashion is handmade and from a small business, boho shit is often mass produced.
>>368144i'm trying to build a wardrobe that's more hippie without falling into the trap of "everything i own must be this specific style" if that makes sense, but the good thing about hippie fashion is you can really add in anything and as long as you style it right it will look like it fits the aesthetic. rn i wear a lot of maxi skirts and dresses, birkenstocks and clog sandals or just go barefoot (sorry), bell bottoms or baggy jeans. tie dye, oversized band shirts. i just bought some baggy patchwork pants that i'm very excited about and a yellow reversible halter top that ties in the back that's made from a recycled sari. i'd like some headbands, maybe something like this from the little bazaar store. i crochet so i'm making a patchwork cardigan and as soon as i finish that i'm going to make some crochet bralettes and maybe some granny square bags. lol i've been eyeing them but i cant bring myself to buy crochet things i know i could make myself.
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I've bitched about this before but I absolutely hate the Cinderella ballgown from the live action movie. I see women all the time talk about how gorgeous of a dress it is and how its "every little girls dream gown". Its hideous. The only thing I can give it credit for is how it color shifts when it moves. I understand what the designer was going for and I appreciate that she went for a very animated look with it, describing it like watercolor in motion, but its incredibly tacky. If I was going to pick a childs movie ballgown it would be Sara's gown from the movie labyrinth.
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tag yourself nonnies. I'm %100 a normie with big opinions
did a revamp of this graph I made last year, hope you like it
No. 368157
>>368155I'm fashion
victim and proud
No. 368165
>>368164right here nonners
>>>/ot/1542445that thread has also other fashion spergings that are very fun to read
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Should men go back to wearing one-pieces?
No. 368168
>>368166why are they all showing titty
also yeah
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>>368166We all know the answer is yes.
>>368168The one strap leotard was a fairly common look for circus strong man performers, so maybe it's in reference to that.
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>>368167I look for forums or groups that post scans of magazines. Bellazon is one. Lots of guys cataloging specific models they like but also there are threads for specific fashion magazines and a lot of the scans are HQ. It’s not a fashion website in my opinion but some of the users are actually contributing scans and not just jerking off to “models in sweaters” jpegs. I made an account to look at the scans since some of it is for members only, it’s pretty easy. it’s an old forum so some of the images are gone and it’s basically dead but there’s still stuff on there
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>>368129Nice simple example of boho chic on the right here. this romantic darker version is basically what I always pictured. I have a friend who dresses like this and she always looks nice so I don’t have a problem with it.
Free People hippie-dippie style boho is ugly to me though
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>>368174amazing how your post contributed literally nothing
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>>368168>>368169They're freeing the nipple cause it used to be illegal.
No. 368182
>>368178Only two of these men should be allowed shirtless
>>368181I'm sorry to break it to you but it says bare body
No. 368183
>>368155Normie
victim. The innocent bystander waiting to get assaulted by a pair of jeans.
No. 368184
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Thoughts on the Mugler x H&M collab? I'm so sick of these bodysuits. It's old and tired. In general, Mugler has no glamour and creativity anymore. Thierry Mugler should've never sold it.
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>>368182None of them should be allowed to be shirtless, because women are not allowed to be shirtless. We need to bring back the the genderless modesty suits. Actually make men wear the modesty suits and let women wear whatever they want, including those dope bathing costumes with the pantaloons.
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>>368172is filled with very vapid people, they always post tweets with captions like picrel which adds nothing or promotes any kind of meaning full conversation. Is pretty much filled with wannabes, fags and spammers.
No. 368197
The posts about kinderwhore and whatnot reminded me of something I've been something about for a while: the way women are presented to be childlike in fashion. There's this Kant quote that I think about a lot; he talks about Adam and Eve, and how their fall constituted a change, but also a loss - because every change entails a loss. Loss is inherent to the very nature of change. In media and culture, leaving girlhood behind for womanhood is presented as this Edenic fall: debased to a corporeal, disgusting, fleshy form - leaving the ethereality and nether knowledge of girlhood. Falling into shitting, bleeding, splitting open in childbirth. It is one of fashion industry's amusing traits that so much of the fashioning of its appeal is built on idealizing a liminal time frame of girlhood and female youth – of something that is already marked by its own loss and death. You would that maybe this is the cultural expression of the fact that there is no mainstream meaningful avenue through which women could articulate adulthood and grow up - you often hear the answer is to become to a mother. Does anybody remember the part of Peter Pan, when the little annoying twink shit in his little twink outfit goes back to Wendy, sees her as an adult woman, and is so disappointed? And how she folds in over herself, like she's trying to hide her body now she's no longer a little girl? And he takes her daughter instead, like she lost something so essential? I remember reading Baudrilliad (I'm sorry for bringing up a French person - I'm misspelling his name out of respect) and he said something that stuck with me: that fashion and nonreproductive sexuality go together because they both signify a sort of "futility". Reproductive sexuality, and the maternal body accompanying it, has no place in fashion.
I think that's why mindless identification with fads like kinderwhore should always be questioned. appeal? They employ these visual tropes of girlishness and whatnot, and that is part of its visual appeal, but its that very appeal that carries the trappings of femininity. Vidrel where the guy talks about Kate Moss and how she's captivating because she's a "child-woman", and it just reminded me of how much of fashion is based in this. Kinderwhore, Lolita, romantic Victorian frills, big skirts and Peter Pan collars - the new season is in, Wendy's daughter becomes a woman and gives birth to a girl and the little shit twink in his goblin outfit shrieks at her like a bad Chinese toy because she's no longer a little girl, Humbert shrieks at Dolores' "ruined" pregnant body, with her roped "goose-flesh white arms" and her "unkempt armpits" and there's always a new dress to buy. It's so ironic that Nabokov's Lolita is such a big trope in fashion considering it's about a pedophile dehumanizing a little girl and stealing her childhood through fashioning her and deconstructing her through clothes and romantic imagery.
No. 368198
>>368197Calling peter pan a twink is an insult to twinks, he's a fuckboy (and the visual representation of a pedo if you consider the implications of his incel-like disgust at adulthood)
Some interesting points in your post though, fashion is definitely about an androgynous sexuality imo. I think the very feminine fashion is less rooted in an attempt to retain girlhood, and more in an attempt at self expression which entirely excludes the enemy (men)
It gets co opted by kinksters but feminine fashion itself is simply an escape from masculinity.
No. 368200
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Who has the best sketches? I always chuckle at old Mugler sketches because they all look like a man in drag and it’s a mystery to me how he translated that to well-fitted women’s clothing (eventually his sketches got more feminine, in the late 80s or 90s I think). But I do love that one jacket with the huge shoulders and tiny waist he made so I can’t be mad at the man-shoulders in his sketches. Whatever works.
No. 368202
>>368197>Reproductive sexuality and the maternal body accompanying it, has no place in fashion.I have really limited knowledge of fashion so I could be talking out of my ass, but from what I know a lot of fashion (at least high-end) has historically catered toward older women (and by older, I mean women of reproductive age like 20s and 30s, not actual old women). If you look at fashion models from the 40s and 50s, a lot of them are mid-twenties or even older. Famous designers like Thierry Mugler and Vivienne Westwood often used older women as runways models.
That being said, I don't disagree with everything you said. It's definitely true that misogyny has placed undue emphasis on female youth in general culture and that has a lot of harmful effects (but I'd say this is more present in media like movies and books as opposed to fashion). Also Kinderwhore and Lolita are both fashion subcultures and don't represent fashion trends as a whole. As for Victorian-style clothing or big skirts- I don't see how that is inherently associated with girlhood? Grown women existed in the Victorian era too… In fact, a lot of Vivienne Westwood's designs took inspiration from the Victorian era but most of her clothing seems intended to be for grown women (again, meaning 20s and 30s) rather than teenagers or young girls.
No. 368206
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The YSL sketches are fun the way he crammed them all together on a page and has a fabric swatch too
No. 368208
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I like Erte’s illustrations too, I’m looking to buy some art books
No. 368209
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Some of the actual clothes were as crazy as his drawings
No. 368210
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Hard to find images of real life Erte costumes paired with the illustration, a lot of the photos from back then aren’t the best quality I guess which is really too bad because I’d love to see a whole collection of his designs with photos of the finished products. Some of them are so elaborate they must have been extremely time consuming and expensive to make
No. 368212
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Does anyone know if when John Galliano/Dior did that 1998 ss show was it an homage to Erte or an homage to Marchesa Luisa Casati or both? I’ve heard it both ways and the clothes could tell either story (although personally I see more Erte but I don’t know a lot about Marchesa except she seems like she was very cool)
No. 368213
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>>368212(Samefag) like that one could be an homage to Marchesa for sure but this one has to be an Erte homage if it’s an homage to anything. I just wonder if Gaillano said one way or the other if it was about one or both or the time period in general etc
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>>368206Because this is vaguely a weeb site I hope it’s not too off topic to say I’m 99% sure Naoko Takeuchi was copying that YSL sketch style when she drew this as she is notorious for borrowing fashion layouts and sometimes entire costume designs. I feel like I notice a new thing every year where I’m like “oh my god
that’s where she got that idea from”. It’s fun she likes fashion so much but it does make me question her overall originality just a tiny bit. I used to have a folder of comparison pictures with all her obvious stolen designs and some more subtle but still obvious inspiration sources lol
No. 368215
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Dropping this here so no one thinks I’m just tinfoiling about the sailor moon author and her borrowed fashion designs. Sorry this is only mildly fashion adjacent but but she really did do it a lot
No. 368220
>>368200I can't help but look at these and think Pete Steele, especially that last one.
>>368215Has she ever gotten in trouble for this? Her character is literally a stolen design, not inspired in the slightest, and she made money from it as if it was her own organic creation.
No. 368227
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Unpopular Opinion: I think magic stretching popcorn/bubble shirts and dresses are cool as hell. awful in the heat from what I experienced, like wearing a plastic bag, no moisture wicking qualities, but they are so fun! Really easy to move around it, fun and bouncy and interesting textures. I didn’t see anyone trying to bring them back for the “y2k” trend which is a bummer because they’re pretty much the only thing I miss from then
No. 368232
Looking back on affairs like fashion shows before the 2000s, I can't help but think the proliferation of digital media really destroyed something essential in the modality of runway fashion. Not the clothes, but the spectacle of the runway itself. There's this interview by Pat Cleveland where she talks about how much she feels the energy of the people on the runway and naturally she wants to give the people what they "want", and so she twirls, dances, flicks her arm this way or her legs this way. There's this energy that isn't present nowadays and I think it's because runways were thought to be more of a "live" affair. There wasn't this all-permeating awareness of how everything will look and move online. In result, I think there was this process of alienation, where models - before, considered live performers for a very receptive audience - are now strictly aware of cameras and video, and are now corporeally estranged from the audience. It reminds me of the debate about live music versus studio music, and how in some genres like punk you can lose something deeply important in the experience of live music if you record it in the studio, especially using certain digital equipment.
No. 368235
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>>368229I wasn't a hat person before, but I started becoming one when I learned to crochet. So great for bad hair days. The next one I want to make is a pie beret.
No. 368236
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Do you think Peter Do can bring Helmut Lang back from the dead? I like some his musings and work ethic, but can't say I'm that excited about his designs.
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No. 368239
>>368230He does not, lol. So imagine a nerdy elementary school teacher with a dinosaur tie with a vampire girlfriend.
>>368233I've been told it was the car industry. That fast moving cars blew away hats and that they were too low for large hats.
No. 368245
>>368242I agree. Viscose is fucking terrible and these fabrics actually have more syntetic fibers added to them now, on top of
toxic materials already used in transforming cellulose. Seller in a fabric store I frequent told me that most of stuff called "viscose" she gets to sell burns like plastic fabrics.
>>368236I kinda kept up with his work good while ago but I started to feel that it looks tryhard, like weird deconstruction or cutouts to make minimalism less boring. He never really felt like spiritual successor to Lang and nothing will beat Lang's 90s collections for me. Fashion needs more clothing that fits over bad deconstruction or everything oversized. I agree with this nona a lot
>>368232When I look at old fashion shows I like how more simplicistic they are and clothing take center stage, outrageous sets were for couture and they complimented clothing, created a specacle. I saw so much of over the top sets when I still kept up with modern fashion and I didn't really liked
them. It was changed since social media brained audience demands more of visual stimulation and they can't appreciate just models going down on runway and showing personality. One related thing is how we have loads of faceless and no personality models than it was pre-2000. I always see many names memed but they just walk down on the runway or pose without any emotion on runways. Models as entertainers were killed.
>>368218Based. I hate "Y2K" the most, mostly due to my 00s fashion autism and how the worst trends are brought back instead of what was good. You get even more pornified take on trends lifted from celebrities and only few collections from that time are brought back. I never see feminine, practical and minimalist in form clothes revived, when it's one of my favorite thing about late 90s and early 00s fashion. You get slutcore fast fashion garbage in ugly colors or terrible clashes of trends on runways, like Blumarine did for an example. Many people just hyperfocus on celebs especially in this era than looking at more runway collections than ones by biggest fashion houses, editorial and ad scans or even watch old TV shows/programming to see how things looked on side of an average person.
>>368190This. Once I saw some of them jump on someone in community not knowing about some streetwear brand they consider "crucial to fashion", not sure if it was Bape or that brand that was owned by Pharell Williams. It's like fashion tumblr but more vapid and retarded. Though I didn't see black trannies demanding to be paid for reposting old runway pictures yet but maybe I didn't lurk more.
No. 368246
>>368245Samefag but I forgot to add that I wish there were more scans of anything else than just editorials, especially content about trends on a budget or features about various women, how they dress, etc.
>>368170Ot but I really can't understand moids obsessed with cataloguing certain models, even worse if it's a celeb woman/actress/singer. In my country lot of fashion magazines are sold by moids who collected them for some irrelevant celeb, put into shitty "material bundles" who are listed for years and never will split them. So many mags I want are listed but I won't buy them with disgusting moid mags. They are annoying buyers too, ones that wanted to buy from me sperged out how badly they want it just for some famous woman. I never sell to them though
No. 368248
>>368247Yes, it was this one but I had hard time remembering what exactly happened. Thanks nona. Good to hear there were people who understood that person, I only saw these who went after that so hard just for stating they actually learned about it. I don't get excepting from people who have their own niches to know everything.
Additionally I hate how streetwear got close to high fashion though, it always felt weird for me and shitty extension of hype culture on top of ruining character of both things.
No. 368249
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can someone post examples of ''nerd/geek'' fashion?
No. 368255
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I think I would literally die if I ever got to wear a Zac Posen gown (will never happen but a gal can dream).
No. 368256
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I think I would literally die if I ever got to wear a Zac Posen gown (will never happen but a gal can dream).
No. 368257
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>>368249genuine nerd clothes or like geek chic fashion? Gucci did a thing a few years ago
No. 368262
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>>368260I think she's more thrifty-chic
No. 368265
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>>368249>cargo shorts, cargo pants, and cargo pants zippers on the knees>>frequently men's styles instead of women's>>especially leaving the bottom parts draped around the ankle like picrel
>t-shirts (both female and male cuts) featuring the individual's personal interests, such as popular IPs, bands, textual references>often, a men's button-up shirt like in the post i'm replying to is worn on top. usually the outer shirt is somewhat muted in color and pattern.
>sturdy walking shoes
>minimal accessories, typically:>>medium-duty bag (big enough to carry notebooks or small laptop) with a cross-body strap>>simple jewelry, often soft materials (leather, hemp)>>eccentrics sometimes wear hats like trilby, bonnet, or beretthat's how young geeky women dressed in like 2010 anyway
No. 368274
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Gotta thank YSL and Danielle Luquet de Saint Germain for giving us women in suits.
No. 368275
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>>368274Samefag, for more context.
>The Le Smoking tuxedo suit for women was the first of its kind to earn attention in the fashion world and in popular culture. The tuxedo suit was designed for women. The inspiration for the suit was the androgynous personal style of Saint Laurent model and muse Danielle Luquet de Saint Germain
>It pioneered long, minimalist, androgynous styles for women, as well as the use of power suits and the pantsuit in modern-day society.
>In French and many other languages, the pseudo-anglicism smoking refers to tuxedo/black tie clothing. It is a false friend deriving from the Victorian fashion of the smoking jacket. No. 368279
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>>368277nta but the fashion world/popular culture is just the mainstream and women were definitely wearing suits and "crossdressing" prior to YSL lol
https://www.gentlemansgazette.com/tuxedo-black-tie-guide/advanced/women-tuxedo-tailcoat/ No. 368284
>>368282Nta and I hate heels but a sexual person having the desire to "feel sexy" isn't sTrAnGe at all, it's natural.
Though dumb foot paraphelia like heels is not the way to go about it imo
No. 368291
>>368283sorry for blogpost, this qn got me thinking.
hard agree. while the principles behind the goods used in quiet luxury hold a lot of water (i.e. buy it for life, the price is worth the craftsmanship), you know for a fact that the people who adopted quiet luxury recently weren't into it a few years ago and won't be into it a few years from now. if we boil quiet luxury down to its aesthetic only, what we're left with basically amounts to rich person cosplay, which is where the shein-ified version of old money (tennis skirts, argyle vests, headbands, houndstooth) comes from. i can understand why the trend's popped up though; the economy sucks and people want to project themselves into that idealised lifestyle.
my guess is that old money, given its large crossover with sad beige shit, is an adapted form of the idea of neutrality which has taken over a lot of design trends within the last 10 years, although the trappings of it make it slightly different from the bog standard san serif, corporate memphis, gradients with grain flavour of neutrality. however, given that neutrality isn't on the cutting edge of design anymore, we're left with two paths that old money can take.
if old money continues to lean into its timeless shtick and push out beige stuff, then i imagine the main brand powerhouses behind the trend will fade back into the general fashion ecosystem and continue to have reasonable success, because at the end of the day the designs aren't doing anything new. if there's a push on the idea of heritage like what burberry is doing right now, then that'd appeal more to the rich person cosplayer zoomer demographic, which currently has more pop culture clout. however, the risk of that is the chances of the look being oversaturated and thus losing the exclusive appeal of old money is higher.
either way im sick of old money being called timeless because its very obviously going to be dated in three fucking years at the rate fashion is going. it only lasted as long as it did compared to its more outlandish contemporaries such as cottagecore and e-kids because of its broader appeal, but as the zeitgeist changes, old money will (hopefully) end up in the same place as uggs and pumpkin spice lattes.
on a broader note, i hate the whole "-core" "-wave" thing; it worked when websites with tagging systems were the big thing but now it reeks of terminal pinterest brain.
No. 368293
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I'm not qualified to really add anything of importance that hasn't already been said about Chalayan's work ten times over but I really appreciate how it feels so contemporary and modern.
No. 368301
>>368297Nonna i am
triggered why did you have to remind me
No. 368302
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Dior debuted their Resort 2024 collection yesterday, the destination is Mexico City, Mexico. It's Maria Grazia so it's as bland as you can expect (imo). Something interesting though, is that they had embroidered words like "feminazi", "retard", and "Viva mi Vida!" (amongst many other words) onto the clothing to apparently shoutout feminist movements and femicide in Mexico. Very bold statement to make considering Johnny Depp recently signed a deal to remain the face of Sauvage.
No. 368303
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>>368302Samefag, here's the dresses dedicated to feminism. And a link to the full collection.
https://www.vogue.com/fashion-shows/resort-2024/christian-dior No. 368309
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>>368307My exact thoughts. Setting aside the dress itself (it's so simple a middle schooler could do it), what were they going for with the designs? They're literally making their wearers look like a Doodle Bear.
No. 368314
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>>368307Lol it totally does. There are other looks that aren't just white dresses but I still find them so meh.I've kind of come to terms with the fact that Maria Grazia just isn't interested in doing anything remarkable at Dior like a lot of her predecessors did. Everything is so bland, I won't even call her designs bad because that's too strong of a word to describe them.
No. 368316
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>>368314Samefag, speaking of Dior, Natalie Portman wore the Junon gown at Cannes. It's definitely a recreation but regardless it's so nice to see. Right is the OG dress and it's sister Venus, which hopefully we will see sometime as well!
No. 368320
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>>368319I agree that it looks cheaper but honestly I thought it may have been red carpet lights making it look like that, especially because it looks less sparkly. I think the main thing making it look so different is that it appears like the embroidery is sparser and while also using bigger chunks of sequins. It's like only a sprinkle of sequins compared to the original. At the same time, I don't think Christian Dior's work can be truly 1-1 recreated so I'm kinda just happy with what we're getting.
No. 368322
>>368321Nta but the OP says
>Post about everything fashion related; designers, collections, the industry, jobs, experiences, influences and effects on ordinary people and your life, the past, the future, the present, etc.I would think "effects on ordinary people and your life" would include things like trends. Fashion isn't just about history and high fashion. I think it's better to just keep this as a general fashion thread and contribute more of the things you want to see and discuss.
No. 368326
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I was watching a Chung Thanh Phong show and I can't stop thinking about these designs and models.
No. 368332
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>>368326They remind me of the fairies that summon Mothra (shobijin) but modernized
No. 368338
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What do nonnies think of Mia getting into fa? Or has this always been a thing for her? I'm late, I guess lol
No. 368344
>>368294Based. This thread is full of wannabes so they're mad at you, but besides the not having bought new clothes in years, this is the mentality of literally anyone who actually has their own sense of style/isn't a fashion
victim or trying to sell some garbage on IG.
No. 368347
>>368345Yeah but even so, in most contexts people use "child" to mean a young kid (someone younger than a teenager). OP could have definitely meant teenagers, but when you say child most people will not think of teenagers first. It's just a weird thing to insist on and feels like semantics.
Anyway this is dumb, sorry. I don't want to derail the thread too much.
No. 368348
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>>368270The irony in this comment kek
>>368294Love this, and I agree.
>>368345Shut the fuck up and get down off the high horse, please. Cringe
Anyways this podcast is fantastic. I'm no fashion fanatic but I find it to be very interesting with well-researched episodes. Has anyone else listened? What do you think?
No. 368350
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Imo, it's so hard to get into her style but sometimes she can pull out a look.
No. 368351
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>>368350Samefag, she just really knows her lame and sticks to it. Either boots, a coat and skirt/dress, or a dress with some bold design (usually floral print). I will admit I've taken some fashion inspo from an Anna outfit.
No. 368352
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Versace Resort 2024, co-designed by Dua Lipa came out just an hour ago. I actually wasn't expecting to like this so much but I do. Dua Lipa is starring in the new Barbie movie and some of the looks here ("here" as in the entire collection) I could imagine on a Barbie
No. 368355
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>>368353I think the polka dots were this collections downfall tbh.
No. 368356
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Ok I won't post anymore but these were very cute.
No. 368360
>>368302>>368303I'm mexican and this screams "I live in upper-class polanco, far away from the realities of the average mexican woman but they say mean things of me on insta so imma make my
victim statement through writing slut on a dress to signify that I am a proud slut and the patriarchal system affects me to a minimum."
TL;DR is a vapid rehash of useless pseudo-activism. I hope they at least paid the couturiers appropriately.
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>>368361as a versacefag it pretty much depends on your lifestyle. My work environment requires me to wear formal clothing but I love maximalism, so I wiggle myself around with colours and accessories. So I just keep classic formal-wear silhouettes and jazz them up with either patterns or solid bright colours and not too obnoxious jewellery.
No. 368363
>>368356omg i hate the oversized shirt + knee length shorts + high socks and sneakers combo. this is every fuckboy wannabe high schooler favorite combo or something. especially with both hands in the pockets ugh
>>368312it's a lifestyle choice for people who are vegan but when looking at someone's outfit you don't know which piece of clothing is vegan, if it's intentionally vegan, and if they're wearing it because it's vegan. i agree that the label can be used to greenwash when people conflate vegan/organic/sustainable/zero waste/gluten free/fair trade/whatever which is retarded.
No. 368367
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so many fashion youtubers just give me horrible vibes for some reason i can't articulate
No. 368368
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Louis Vuitton Cruise 2024. Destination is Isola Bella. There's many things to say but all I will say is this; Nicholas Ghesquire, wtf is your problem?
No. 368369
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>>368368Genuinely what were they thinking? There's no coherency, what's even Italian about this?
No. 368373
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I was looking through photo's of Tina, and she had some truly great stage costumes. Here's her in the iconic Bob Mackie flame costume (you've probably also seen it on the lovely Cher). I would love if any other anons shared costumes (stage, movies, whatever) too! I feel they are an underrated part of fashion.
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There’s a really good twitter thread on fashion, it’s really interesting actually how most people have a very skewed view on how clothes should actually cost because of fast fashion. If people all down the line were paid ethically, we’d be paying essentially that much for a piece like that. There’s some measure of mark up because it’s designer but things like hand stitched lace? They’re expensive and specialty. And it goes on. Ethically made items will be expensive by virtue of having to make a profit on top of paying works. Shein can pump out garbage because it uses shit fabric and underpays factory workers.
https://twitter.com/lingerie_addict/status/1339620266348044289 No. 368379
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>>368378Here’s the set for anyone too lazy to check the thread
No. 368386
>>368378>>368379I don't have an eye for lingerie, I find them all very tacky and distasteful, but the tweetard is fairly correct. Making clothing of good/high lasting quality is not the standard anymore, more like the exception. Try finding raw fabric that hasn't gone through pesticides, acidic
toxic waste and slave labour, is just not the standard. If I had to choose between ugly but safely and mainly humanly made panties vs rat poison soaked slave laboured ones I'll go for the frenchie field ones for my coochie.
No. 368387
>>368379It's definitely cute, but not $1000 cute. And I don't mean that to devalue her labor, I totally believe the labor was worth $1000. But I would have rather had a $1000 dress with that lace than that. Also, does anyone have experience with Leaver lace? I know why it's expensive, but is it truly a superior lace to the new machines? Or is it just hype and exclusiveness?
>>368386Do you have any companies that have better quality fabric? I can't sew, so I don't make my own clothes, but I crochet and I usually source my yarn from small cotton farmers I personally email after finding them online.
No. 368392
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>>368379Very informative thread but damn this shit is ugly
No. 368393
>>368387actually what you are doing right now is a fantastic way of getting your hands on high quality garments. Locally is not always better but is very good alternative. A little trick of mine is this: I use
https://www.listthe.com/ to check who and where are the manufacturers of pretty much any product I consume (makeup, clothing, skincare etc.). I made an account with a random name and an old email I don't really use at all and voila, no more cheap chinese stuff for me.
No. 368394
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Something about Donatella is just so cute to me. Yes she's a PS monster but I want to put her in my pocket.
No. 368395
File: 1685041998953.png (15.66 KB, 686x184, height.PNG)
>>368394im the same height as her, put me in your pocket too
nonny!
No. 368402
>>368380Lol
>>368396Nta but this is a great point.
No. 368411
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I absolutely have not been able to stop thinking about the armadillo shoes and Jeffrey Campbell shoes for some reason today.
No. 368412
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>>368411Samefag. Can I just say I always disliked these shoes even when they were on trend? The shape, particularly the toe part, is ugly to me.
No. 368416
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>>368415>>368411Personally I always think of HIM when I see them
No. 368421
>>368412tbh i think all platform shoes are ugly. they're clunky and vulgar. same for pointed toe shoes
but taht's probanly an unpopular opinion
No. 368426
>>368425> outfit modelled on a person who looks like an average womanI hate how industry only prizes 6" skeletors and now, additionally land whale fatties rather than average women. I wish more models were just average 5'3-5'5 women with average weight. I turn to older magazines for inspiration, especially columns with affordable clothing choices because it's actually achievable for me, these clothes would look good on smaller women than stuff presented nowadays. I actually dig how average women dressed in very early 2000s and this stuff looks more modern and flattering than shitty oversized men's cuts and duck feet square toes strappy sandals and greige or this insane couture/avantgarde thing for enthusiasts and gays.
Other nonas talked about it earlier but I really hate how proper fitting feminine clothing for women are gone from runways, it's either shitty deconstruction or oversized cuts - I think issue in this is additionally rooted in that fashion schools don't care about teaching construction and flat paternmaking. Fashion values concept over flattering cuts and more practical clothes compared to designer clothing from 25-50 years ago. To get anything fitted, because I love properly fitted dresses and skirts from woven fabrics, I have to sew them myself by either using my own patterns or patterns from vintage magazines.
No. 368427
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we need more meggings. fit men only.
No. 368431
>>368428Do you prefer men who are pale and obese?
>>368429They should wear little tunics over leggings, like in the medieval times. Cute.
No. 368432
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>>368428Keep crying moid.
No. 368446
>>368431>>368427based
>>368436it's called being straight. can't be helped.
No. 368447
>>368446i'm straight but that
>>368427 gave me nausea. maybe because leggings-as-pants is so disgusting in general?
No. 368451
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>>368424>>368425>>368426Fashion magazines are currently trying to be the new "fashion-forward-underground" because the "commoner" lifestyle is being frown upon right now. Everyone wants to be ahead of the curve and be rained in attention, while in reality the outliners and visionaries don't get praise or validation from the big names or masses and if you do you are doing something wrong. But I agree with what these anons are saying, the fact that there are no common sense fashion options for the common-folk is distressing and is doing a disservice to the population as a whole. Instead of showing how to style and portrait an easy, reusable, good looking closet magazines, in every outlet, are telling women that they should wear a mini painted on bootlegged power puff girls crop-top with rouche on the sides from chinese sweatshops to the office. Which totally explains the disconnection one may feel to current fashion trends, they're just ugly, no way to pussy foot around it. I remember, maybe 6 or 7 years ago, a japanese magazine was doing spreads with standard and plus size models (not picrel, the models weren't "household" names) where they would showcase an outfit in both sizes. While I'm not pro-inclusivity I don't see the damage in letting an average woman model in a magazine to give the readers a realistic view of how they can look. While I don't like the example I provided because naomi is obese but I believe it could be a step, as wonky as it may be, in the right direction.
No. 368452
File: 1686606125659.gif (4.16 MB, 250x312, 1669069422865.gif)
Modeling is a joke
No. 368453
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I just watched some 90s Isaac Mizrahi runway videos on YouTube and I am in love, too bad I can't find pictures from the fall/winter collections. Even my mother was impressed by how timeless everything looks.
No. 368460
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I'm making serbian underwear an official staple of the LC fashion threads.
No. 368465
>>368464ayrt. oh lord the fashion side of youtube. I'm gonna be completely honest, I avoid these kind of videos like the plague because for some reason everyone has an opinion and believe is an educated one. There are "essay fashionistas" like the notorious faggot hautelemode, which I guess is barely tolerable because he has a lot of technical knowledge and has worked in the industry (even if just backstage). On the other hand the ones who regurgitate information have to walk on a very thin line because to be a knowledge horse you have to be deep in the shit, there's a lot of terminology that needs to be known and mentioned, the history is incredibly extensive and unless the youtuber is/was a teacher I don't see a point in consuming these type of videos. That said, every once in a blue moon you can find a youtuber that has the knowledge to personal opinion ratio balanced and does a good job in enriching the learning/consuming experience, but those are extremely rare.
The video you posted is okay, maybe below average. Fashion can give you brainrot when you don't have someone to keep you inline hence why she calls herself a "weird girl" or "goth" for whatever reason. With that in mind she is not beyond repair, just needs to stop seeing through the queer/gendered glasses because is clouding her views, should learn to pronounce designer names and work on her enunciation and delivery (it kinda lacks confidence).
No. 368466
>>368225You can count me in on that. The way that if you wash it regardless of how gentle you are, it gets gummy, nasty, stretches out horrifically and gets little holes it in like a cat has been chewing on it.
>>368218I miss the whole prairie trend and 70s fashion in general. I look at old pics with great despair, but they are also my motivation to start sewing my own shit since patterns from the 80s-70s go for really cheap. Modern fast fashion is so depressing and boring. I think it's because brands know trends come and go and they a too scared to do something different in fears that they will be left behind. Personally, i think the solution could probably be for some stores to start carrying brands of lesser known designers that all adhere to a specific aesthetic. It would probably only be able to exist in trendy cities or online though which is sad. I miss shopping in store and finding cute clothes.
No. 368467
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I fuckin love seeing people/celebs wearing Iris Van Herpen. Beyonce wore it at a concert today since she was in Amsterdam. I don't like how obvious the mesh is at some parts but I suppose that can't be helped
No. 368470
File: 1687371648530.jpg (209.45 KB, 1200x1000, louis vuitton.jpg)
>>368469Some individual pieces and closeups cause I personally believe they're more interesting than the full looks. Also, I hate to say it but the pixelated camo just reminded me of Minecraft. I really like the boat and black and white pixel bags.
This collection was at least a step up from their cruise collection.
No. 368472
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>>368470Vogue article with all the looks
https://us.louisvuitton.com/eng-us/magazine/articles/men-spring-summer-2024-parisSome of the individual pieces from this collection are really interesting. Accessories seem to be Pharrell's forte. Despite the full looks being boring, I like this collection a lot more than I thought I would.
No. 368473
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>>368472I like that first yellow look a looot.
No. 368474
File: 1687374282804.jpg (269.6 KB, 1200x1200, louis vuitton (3).jpg)
>>368473Last pic, I just wanted to post the minecraft boots and bum bag.
No. 368477
>>368218Lately I've felt so lost and adrift when it comes to fashion, and I wonder if this is why. Years ago, I could always find styles I loved or wanted to emulate. When shopping at brick and mortar stores or online, there was always SOMETHING that pops out at me where I think "Yes! This is totally me, I love it!" and during the past 3 years or so it's been hard for me to find anything that feels like "me". I feel so bored with fashion now.
I'm also an oldfag who was a teenager in the early 2000s, and the stuff they're touting as "y2k aesthetic" just looks like cheap, shitty Wish.com crap. The stuff we had at the malls in the 2000s was genuinely better quality.
No. 368478
This might sound stupid, but I miss actual subcultures. I know not everyone fits in a box, but dressing a certain way shows the world how you want to be viewed and where you want to "fit in", and it's easy to make friends that way. Like seeing another girl wearing an outfit you like, and you think "Oh cool, we'd probably hang out in the same crowd and be friends". Not to be dramatic, but it feels like with TikTok trends coming and going so quickly, AND with people not actually socializing in person, it's hard to establish a fashion identity. There are no "third places" outside of school or work, or home. The malls are dead, everyone just socializes on the internet, nobody seems to go to shows or clubs, and there's nowhere to go to "see and be seen". I feel like being a teenager nowadays must suck, it seems stressful and isolating at the same time.
No. 368483
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Blazers in the 2010s vs blazers in the 2020s. Both fugly.
I simply think blazers need to be banned and I pray for the day we never see another blazer trend.
No. 368484
File: 1687454253633.jpg (193.07 KB, 1000x812, blazer outfits.jpg)
>>368483Literal chills. I hate the floral print. I hate the biker shorts. I could vomit.
Oh, and look at the studded Valentino heels. I also always disliked those, I thought they looked cheap.
No. 368487
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This is so fugly. Like derelicte fashion from Zoolander. Do people really like this aesthetic?
No. 368490
>>368486Can confirm, I see girs going for drinks, shopping and strolling around the city in such outfits.
I got bored of seeing the trendy black white and tan palette after like 3 seconds, god it's so BORING
No. 368492
>>368487Looks really cool but is completely unwearable for anything but a runway or photoshoot
Seems more like an art piece than clothing, like it's inspired by post apocalyptic media
No. 368500
File: 1688579324558.jpg (Spoiler Image,23.41 KB, 600x314, destacada-stark.jpg)
What do you guys think of Michaela Stark? She's a designer that makes lingerie to emphasis "undesirable" features, like rolls and stretchmarks. I've heard about her a few times.
No. 368507
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What are your thoughts on the new Chanel birdcage bag? the NPC's are making a massive deal out of this item
No. 368510
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>>368509Samefag, it looks alright here I guess, it looks cute and whimsical I suppose, if you carry it daintily, as if there were indeed a bird in it. But seeing people dressed casually or as instathots and carrying it like a normal bag, it does not look good.
No. 368511
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>>368507It's very cute, to me Chanel is known for unique bags. Picrel is one of my favs.
No. 368512
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>>368511Samefag, here's more quirky Chanel bags. Also, the birdcage bag isn't actually new. It's from the pre-fall 2020 collection.
No. 368513
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>>368510>But seeing people dressed casually or as instathots and carrying it like a normal bag, it does not look good.god %100, why would you want to parade it at the mall?? no need to suck the band's dick but this "flex" just doesn't do anyone any favours.
No. 368516
>>368500i hate these porn fueled nlog designers using same ideas over and over. corsets at this points are overdone and all of this quirky shit is boring. same for zoomerified fruits revival shit
>>368510it would be cute but execution is terrible.
>>368513it looks terrible i get picking a bag like this for like some high profile event to match a ott outfit but not carrying it around daily
No. 368521
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UNPOPULAR OPINION: I actually really like the GG Marmont belt and I want one in pink despite everyone saying it's tacky and outdated
No. 368526
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Think this fits in this threadsince it's fast fashion. Shein just got hit with a RICO for stealing designs,
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/shein-lawsuit-rico-violations/
>Shein is a popular online destination for social influencers and shoppers to stock up on trendy yet affordable clothing, but a new lawsuit alleges that the site maintains its edge by engaging in "egregious" copyright infringement that constitutes racketeering.
>The complaint was filed on Tuesday in California federal court on behalf of three designers who claimed they were as "surprised" and "outraged" to see their products faithfully copied and sold by the Chinese fast-fashion retailer.
>The reproduced products weren't "close call" copies, where designs are interpreted with some liberties, but were "truly exact copies of copyrightable graphic design" that were sold by Shein, the lawsuit alleges. The company allegedly engages in a pattern of copyright infringement as part of its effort to produce 6,000 new items each day for its millions of customers. That amounts to a violation of the Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations Act, or RICO, the claim alleges.
>"Shein has grown rich by committing individual infringements over and over again, as part of a long and continuous pattern of racketeering, which shows no sign of abating," the suit alleges. No. 368527
>>368526Samefag, a little more from the article. This is news to me, did anyone else think Shein was started by a woman?
>Part of the challenge in pursuing Shein in court is its decentralized, even byzantine, structure, the lawsuit noted.
>Shein "is a loose and ever-changing (though still continuous even as some individual elements might change to be replaced by others) association-in-fact of entities and individuals," the lawsuit stated. Designers without an attorney "face an utter brick wall," the lawsuit added, noting that even people with lawyers by their side can struggle to find "an appropriate defendant."
>Shein was founded in 2012 by Chinese entrepreneur Chris Xu, also known as Xu Yangtian, who is valued at more than $10 billion by Forbes. But not much is known about him, according to The Guardian, which noted the different reports about his background, with some stories describing him as a Chinese-American who studied at George Washington University, while others say he was born in Shandong in 1984 and studied at Qingdao University of Science and Technology.
>"There is no Coco Chanel or Yves Saint Laurent behind the Shein empire. Rather, there is a mysterious tech genius, Xu Yangtian aka Chris Xu, about whom almost nothing is known," the lawsuit alleges. No. 368530
>>368529There’s a reason shein/romwe is significantly worse than other “fast fashion” retailers like Marshall’s, Burlington, even H&M and even F21. I have plenty of clothing from all of those stores that have held up very well for many years. The two coats I bought from H&M in 2013 will likely never need to be replaced (a heavy and classic looking wool coat, and a classic black windbreaker with a high quality black faux fur trim. I have shitty polyester dresses from F21 that have lasted me a decade+ by washing in garment bags on gentle and hanging to dry. Even treating my shein shits with respect like that they fall apart immediately or look and feel like garbage immediately out of the package.
The only thing shein/romwe is good for are their cheap lingerie - stuff you’re not supposed to wear for more than like an hour at a time. And the occasional weird statement piece like a low quality plush bag you’ll wear a couple times.
No. 368533
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Lol, lmao
No. 368537
>>368536I bought an H&M dress a while ago. Wore it once. Left it hanging in my closet. Next time I reached for it it was already fraying at the neckline.
I have some things from 2013/2014 from fast fashion like Pull&Bear and Mango, they're still in good condition. I have a jacket from Jennyfer that I bought early 2013, and I get compliments on it and get asked where I bought it. It's still in good condition. It seems like some time after 2017 fast fashion dropped significantly in quality. Now things barely last a couple of months before fraying at the seams. It's been a while since I bought anything; it's mostly been thrifts/old clothes from the 80s/90s that are holding up better than anything. I don't know where to buy anything anymore, especially that I'm not in the US. I'm thinking of buying good fabric and looking for a tailor.
No. 368541
>>368536I completely agree with you on that. Working with second hand clothes has definitely made me notice how dire the situation is.
>>368534I've only bought shein once, not clothing though, some satin scarves that i use everyday. I wouldn't bother with shein for clothes at all. Normally when i buy clothes i usually only buy from weekday because i've never had issues with their quality.
No. 368542
>>368538I've noticed the same thing. I've been getting rid of a bunch of the old stuff I wore in highschool and replacing them so I can have an adult wardrobe, but the quality is so shit now. I like shopping at ASOS because most of their clothes fit my vibe but the material on some of their original design dresses are so thin for the price. A year or two ago I bought a pair of high waisted jeans from Charlotte russe and the zipper
already broke. Where the hell do I get semi reasonably priced clothes now? It like you're either forced to go buy SheIn crap because at least you didn't spend that much when your clothes disintegrate in half a year, or you gotta go find some obscure overpriced brand that will probably pull a bait and switch because no one's buying their $50 tee shirts.
No. 368543
>>368542I go thrifting, but I even see a lot of Shein crap when thrifting. Never bought from them, tried on one of their outfits when thrifting out of curiosity, quality was sheer crap.
You can still find some good stuff when thrifting, you just need to hunt for it. I find that denim I buy holds up better, unless that's not your style
No. 368544
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I'm surprised no one has asked this before but nonnas, do you have any dream pieces? Another question, what would your dream wardrobe be/look like? Pics are appreciated and it doesn't have to be high fashion of course. I'm so curious about the tastes of farmers.
No. 368545
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>>368544I've always wanted something from Alexander McQueen (I've loved him since I was a child) but I fell in a rut after his passing and only now decided to check out what Sarah is doing. I so want this dress, I would wear it every, single, day, of my life.
No. 368546
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I forgot to add my picture, but my dream items would be tabis, rocking horse shoes (official ones) and maybe some shoes from carol christian poell, but that's probably never going to happen or i'd find myself settling for something with a similar vibe that is significantly cheaper and that i can try on and return if i have to.
No. 368547
File: 1689384391106.png (713.81 KB, 553x809, VuRT7jJ.png)
probably a massive longshot and impossible, but is anyone able to ID the watch worn in this pic?
or perhaps recommend a similar watch
No. 368548
File: 1689387041088.jpeg (130.31 KB, 750x1125, IMG_7625.jpeg)
>>368544I have a bucket list
>chanel 90s skirt and blazer top set (similar to picrel)>tom ford leather motorcycle jacket and suit jacket (I know they gear more towards men but I love love love love this brand's jackets)>moschino rainbow blazer and tshirt dress>small quilted black chanel purse>burberry plaid skirt>versache dress No. 368553
File: 1689443838248.jpg (51.12 KB, 506x768, Vivienne Westwood Shoes - Leat…)
>>368546I love those rocking horse shoes. It seems that they're pretty popular with lolitas and imo that's when they're the cutest.
No. 368557
File: 1689459792304.jpg (372.95 KB, 1096x842, fashion.jpg)
>>368544I'd basically would like my wardrobe to look two very different ways, like picrel, I'm just torn between this elegant look and the dirty, destroyed goth look, kek. I don't have special garments I'd like to own. If I were rich, I wouldn't care, but I'm not, so I can't justify the price for stuff I can make myself. Only stuff on my list are some Alexander Wang and Omtura bags and shoes from Ann Demeulemeester and so on
No. 368560
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the y2k revival trend has gone too far
No. 368561
>>368507>>368510Looks cheap, but maybe that's just the photos? I think the bags in
>>368512 are much more fun and don't look like goldfill is going to chip off at any moment.
>>368560Bitch are those culottes??? Julottes, no less?
The Y2K revvival trend is only good when it's the tacky rhinestone heiress or MIB-ish "futuristic" styles. Or like…crimp your hair and wear a tight polo, that's way more acceptable than this. Why are the kids picking the ugliest shit to emulate?
No. 368566
>>368560I might be too stupid or don't understand today's fashion, but why is that belt too small and she can't close it?
And maybe only 1% of the fat people in the 2000s would have worn that shit, most would have been ashamed to be that big and show too much skin, just saying as someone being alive at that time.
No. 368569
File: 1690054176611.jpg (55.18 KB, 439x748, belt.JPG)
>>368560I feel like this thread deserves to see some more of her outfits.
No. 368572
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>>368544This Gaultier bag
No. 368576
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>>368572this looks like its from the leather stall at the county fair, hanging next to picrel
No. 368577
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>>368576Yeah but these are pleather and don't have satan on them
I also want picrel for balance
No. 368581
File: 1692111125209.jpg (111.31 KB, 649x854, xyz.jpg)
Can I get an ID on this skirt?
No. 368582
File: 1692485753879.jpg (136.8 KB, 750x1153, 99d6a58c22a4c97058d160cf342320…)
No. 368583
File: 1693159277259.jpg (141.42 KB, 643x1200, 3f40e19568bb5c2c93d2f4939a1d2f…)
I've noticed that the current generation of "fashionistas" rely solely on brand names for dressing up. They don't know anything about clothing shapes or cuts, let alone fabrics. If they see a photo of a random white button up shirt that is styled for the shoot in a pleasant way they go "BrAND?!?!?" like is just a random ass white button up shirt. They don't seem to realise that a brand name doesn't guarantee quality most of the time and the price tag doesn't justify it. I would expect that from your everyday normie and even they buy clothes from Walmart that is more likely than not made in their home country, so unironically, they dress in better quality material clothes than these "fashion" obsessed weirdos kek. Even if they go "vintage hunting" or thrifting, they don't know shit about fabric nor production quality, they'll get some made in china bullshit and think they're ahead of the curb or whatever they're on. Surprisingly this is showing on different age groups, from teenager to people well over their 30's, which is just plain sad. picrel unrelated, just thought it looked psychotic
No. 368584
File: 1693355740262.jpg (2.53 MB, 6340x2691, gucci.jpg)
What are some trends (current or past) that you despise, anons? For me, it's the quilted flap Chanel bags (yes even the Boy bags, even though those are better than other quilt Chanel bags) and the gucci belts. Some of the Chanel bags just look so flimsy and cheap. Unfortunately I don't think they will ever go out of style, but at least the gucci belts are dated and fading away. With the gucci belts, I think the logo is just so ostentatious. They're just huge, like a damn wrester belt. Some of the Hermes belts have the same problem.
With that being said, I don't agree with the popular opinion that a lot of people buy these to look rich. I mean with the Gucci belts that was definitely the case but I think the Chanel bags are just one of those items that people like to buy to have something nice, which is fine.
No. 368585
File: 1693356476826.jpg (116.59 KB, 735x908, chanel.jpg)
>>368584Samefag, I need to add another example of what I mean when I say the Chanel flaps look flimsy. Doesn't this literally look like you could rip it like a piece of paper?
It's unfortunate that Chanel is never gonna get rid of the quilts cause it's a trademark design that instantly screams Chanel. Unlike the tweed, it's just fug and other designer brands have done it better.
No. 368586
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>>368584the ruching and stringy front top trend where it was used in the tackiest, raunchiest and cheapest ways. It was literally hoe couture for normies, I really, really hate it.
>>368585Also I agree with you, quilted anything looks instantly fugly, but again it does scream Chanel.
No. 368588
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>>368586Tbh, I liked those tops like the white one. I wouldn't have ever dared to wear one myself though. In regards to ruching, I think the only ruching trend I liked was the dresses that would have ruching only across the breast. I HATED these gym pants with the butt ruching. It just looks like the person wearing them has a bootyhole so strong it sucked in the pants.
No. 368592
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>>368584I hate anything where the brand logo is the main/only decoration. It just looks so tacky no matter what it is.
No. 368596
>>368584People who wear the gucci stripes and double g logo on anything are definitely compensating for something. I've experienced this irl and gucci owns a lot of much pricier, discreet items with no logos so they could've bought that but deliberately chose not to. Speaks volumes.
I'm sure I'll offend some gen z-tards and people who sit around daydreaming about ~omg aesthetics~ without actually immersing themselves in real life but for trends I hate, those sweetheart neckline milkmaid tops that were in every store last year randomly, ugly ass gen z looks that came from the 2019 depop era like the they/them wolf cut and cargo pants (or any type of fake "i'm alt and edgy but only basic and vaguely" without being apart of any real counterculture. the word poseur comes to mind), y2k fashion, pants that are way too baggy like 90s baggy because they just don't flatter anyone and grunge is dead, balletcore (if you don't do ballet then this is just embarrassing. if you have money to spend on trendy clothes, you definitely have money to spend it on a class, more poseur shit).
And I was just thinking recently how it's nice to not see everyone's buttcrack and underwear lines exposed in their uncovered leggings. I mean real workout leggings are fine if you genuinely just came back from the gym or some athletic activity but I'm so glad I don't have to see everyone's rolls, cooch, and near anus in those basic black knit leggings everyone wore as a substitute for pants for some reason in the 2010s. Unfortunately, bras as a substitute for a shirt has now replaced this and it's so trashy.
>>368586God I agree these are so hideous. Bottom right is so weird because it's obvious it's just a cardigan that's meant to go over a camisole as a coverup and not as a literal shirt. Anything for the male gaze though ig.
No. 368600
>>368586off topic moralfagging but the amount of teenage girls i saw wearing shirts like this during the hotter months is disturbing. i saw more teenagers wearing this than adult women
>>368596>Anything for the male gaze though I don't get why a teenage boy's default summer shirt is a loose-fitting cotton tshirt while a teenage girl's default summer shirt is a tight, stringy top that exposes as much skin as possible
no hope for women No. 368601
>>368600See
>>368598Most of those are layering pieces, not shirts.
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>>368584I really hate the current white sock + chunky black shoe combo. It makes you look special needs, No matter who is wearing it. The only way in my mind to salvage it is to wear something feminine that isn't completely disconnected to it, but no one does that and my town is filled with these randomised sims with chunky sped shoes and white frilly socks
No. 368605
>>368603nta but I've solely seen young women and worse yet
children wear them like that, no undershirt, no bra, is fucking dismaying.
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>>368584I really don't like the Scandinavian minimalist "clean girl" trend, it's really boring and makes everyone look like an NPC.
I live in a Nordic city and everyone dresses the same unoriginal way, black leather jacket + white top + jeans or black flare leggings + chunky white sneakers + slicked back hair in a tiny bun. Bonus if the girl has obvious lip filler and gloopy lip gloss on. Plus either a big canvas tote or a Y2K-style hobo bag. It looked nice the first few months and on a few people, now it's starting to look like freaking Aryan Tomie.
No. 368609
>>368606Raf Simons could be a good choice as he is good with small scale interesting concepts and his design style doesn't clash with Helmut's. Also yes this current forced revival of pretty much every 90's brand is so fucking unnecessary, why is everyone so adamant on keeping shit alive way past their peak?
>miuccia truly lost her mind when she picked him as her helper.abso-fucking-lutely, at this point I don't even think these "new fresh designers" are solely risk averse, thus why they make the most watered down shit, but simply they're just that mediocre and are in that position because of lucky timing and capital.
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Sarah Burton is leaving Alexander McQueen after a decade as creative director. Before becoming director, she worked with McQueen himself for about 10 years. Pretty unfortunate cause she's really a great designer. Here's something from her debut solo collection, Spring/Summer 2011.
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>>368614It seems to be that they have to compete against fast fashion giants like shein. I can imagine them being done with having to design ugly chunky white sneakers and nasty leggings for the masses, both who can't and can afford it, all the time.
No. 368620
>>368612This dress is so gorgeous and gives me Hunger Games vibes. I am so sad about this. So many designers are leaving such important fields. Everything is gonna be beige and white mass produced garbage now
>>368615Luxury designs are finally feeling the recession, I suppose.
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>>368620Haha, that actually is the exact dress! The wardrobe design in The Hunger Games is ready good. I haven't seen the prequel that just came out yet, but I hope it's just as good
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I’m Im still obsessed with these rommydebommy bags after all these years. She hand-makes each of them from clay so it’s not practical to use as a bag, but they’re so kitschy I love them
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Finally someone is saying it how it is. I'm so tired of all the fags in the industry, they don't know shit. And worse yet they are rotating the retarded faggots around from house to house, ex. alessandro is now creative director of valentino after body slamming gucci into memedom.
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>>389303I don’t have this issue, but I would size up until your pussy isn’t hanging out kek. If it’s too loose around your waist then, you could add a belt
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>>389303It might be that the crotch in most jeans and shorts is too high for you and you would need more room. There might be a brand that works for your body. You should also have a look at the underwear you wear, some have a firmer fabric that will cover everything and is reinforced enough so nothing will show through. Another option is something to put into your underwear as a protective layer, back when leggings started to become popular there were different things that would cover a camel toe, maybe have a look for something like picrel, I just don't know how comfortable they are to wear.
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>>389234>>389234Valentino Garavani himself was bitching online about how the designers they hire as replacements are incompetent and strip the brand's recognisable design heritage. it's near impossible for women to even be considered to be hired as a top creative director, even though 85% of fashion graduates are women.
And the last crop of fagdesigners have put out abysmal collections.
I dislike maria grazia chiuri's designs, but they sell well because women can at the very least
wear them and not feel humiliated.
No. 389325
>>389324>it's near impossible for women to even be considered to be hired>even though 85% of fashion graduates are womenThis is fucking hell, I hate all these scrotal faggots.
I too think maria grazia is mediocre but as you said women can ACTUALLY wear her clothing and not be/feel objectified.
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>>389335Thanks for your insight nonna, I'd love to hear more about the inside of the industry.
Its insane how fags are allowed to dictate women's clothing and bodies, the reverse would never be accomodated. With the decline of decent department store and outlet clothing the choice is between unwearable low quality expensive designer or fast fashion thotwear. It really feels like any woman who wants a decent carrer in fashion has to strike out and start a small business and scale, but even that is prohibitive
No. 389367
>>368087I realize this is quite old but Lolita is a diminutive version of Lola which is a common nickname for Dolores. Lolita is called Lolita because her name in the book is Dolores, this is more obvious if you speak Spanish and are familiar with how Spanish nicknames and diminutives work. Ita/ito is how you make something ‘small/cute/dear’ in Spanish and can be applied to names and nicknames which can often be strangely shortened versions of their original counterpart.
>Dolores -> Lola -> LolitaCompare to English which does something similar where -y functions as the diminutive:
Richard -> Rick -> Ricky
Robert-> Bob -> Bobby
Elizabeth -> Liz -> Lizzy
Margaret -> Meg -> Peg -> Peggy
That’s where Lolita comes from. I’m sure it must have been a more normal term of endearment in Spanish before the book but by now Spanish speakers are aware of the implications so it isn’t used so much.
No. 389372
>>389338Some designers never sewed anything in their life and it's so frustrating that women with a good education have to work with moids that don't know anything about the craft. Throughout my education there were 97% women and the 3% men were migrants from Syria and similar countries, sewing since they were 5 years old or gay men. And every time a man would appear in a group everyone was like "oh, how amazing, a moid that is sewing, oh, how creative he is, how strong he is that he is among all those women and look what he has done, how good he is." It's just bullshit as it's been a job for men all those years before and now we celebrate them for doing stuff their ancestors thought that was below them.
I've always said that if I would want an independent career in the fashion industry I would use my male sibling as the person who created and did everything, being in the public eye, getting all the attention because I know, if people think he is the one who did all of it, it would be so much easier to achieve something.
No. 389395
>>389367not to continue bumping an old subject, but yes I agree. Also the book is filled with constant mythical allusions, nymphs being just the start, and I'm pretty sure he took the name's genesis as you described to invert (or pervert, at least from a western straitlaced christian perspective switching to the at that time 'pagan' exotic spiritual view) from Dolores, Our Lady of Sorrows to the Hindu goddess Lalita.
Anyway, the real irony is that in the book she dresses like a total tomboy, not at all the lolishit that's been popularised in its wake
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Agreeing with everything about moid designers and shit tailoring.
Reminds me of the mirror palais designer, he gets all the accolades for uninspired repros of shit we've all seen before and then upcharges a fortune for 100% viscose. But instead of taking the money and criticism silently, he snaps back at customers and tries to convince morons that it's worth every penny.
Picrel is a £1000 pound dress that in any other era would be an undergarment, with the hideous prefab bra cups that fit no woman and with the lace cut deep enough that nipple will always be exposed. Thanks fags, every woman wants to drop a band on a nightdress of lower quality than La Perla and wear it outside. For a mere £1400 you can buy the same shit in all black lace. At least the hookers in pretty woman could show there asses on the sidewalk on a budget.
I still remember a weird fascist dogwhistle tiktok from mirror palais captioned "Argentina, 1946" and when people questioned it he told them to fuck off and that it was because the background song was argentinian from the 40s… ok.
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I just found out Roberto Cavalli died. It makes me so sad that all of the fashion legends are dying. RIP.