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Here’s some screens from Bunny’s vent ig.
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These were the only interesting posts, imo. It honestly seems she’s trying to play victim.
I’ve heard she’s bullied a few members out of the group (she’ll deny it and make it seem like they were crazy) but I don’t have a lot of information on that.
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idk why the texas idol community has so much drama, but it's entertaining to me so I can't complain.
Tbh. That is fair. I didn’t know about the LN thing. I had know PS to be pretty elitist for a long time, despite kinda being pretty boring for their last little spurt. I liked their Vocaloid thing but it just died and that was disappointing- it was really refreshing.
The only pure ones are Tanoshii. Bless them. Protect the beans. ;3;( ;3;)
>>36268>TIF has the worst management possible and treats their performers badly.
More details? I've never heard anything about this
Also, what are people here's opinions of Overseas Idol Collection and its staff?>>36274
The sentiment is nice and all but you're not doing your friends any favors by white-knighting for them here
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Adding to the bunny is toxic caps. It’s common knowledge that she shit talks other idols and members so this made me lol
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BOOHOO IM QUITTING COSPLAY
turns around with new group
u ain’t slick
I said in the comment if you read it that I wasn't Bunny. Why would I be Bunny and let people know that I was a former member and not Bunny. This is the first time Ive ever been on this website so forgive me for not participating correctly but I'm Kat. Hi nice to meet you.
I was the former Ruby but it's okay if i'm forgotten. I've never been called a white-knight before so that's exciting…
I'm just letting you know what I believe in. It'd be nice to move on and everyone be happy without hearing about all this negativity, that's all.
Whiteknighting your friend doesn’t do anything. Just because she wasn’t toxic to you doesn’t mean she isn’t toxic.
Also, this is lolcow, if you don’t want “negativity” don’t come here.
Are you really so dumb to reach out and defend someone who has said shitty things even about you behind your back?
Bunny has done and said nasty things about everyone in start splash and the members who have left. She may have treated you well to your face idfk but that doesn’t mean she’s not nasty to others.
And your attempts to protect her and stand up for her are falling on deaf ears. The amount of people who agree about the drama she’s caused were enough to get this thread created. Stop trying.
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Are you blind or is the bar this low anon? Only 1 or 2 of these girls are pretty at a push. The Ruby looks like she puts the pig in pigii.
Honestly, this is absolute crap.
I agree things can get toxic but there were several members who were extremely toxic, and still are.
I don’t think one was bullied out but it got messy for sure. The whole idea of people leaving because of being ‘bullied’ constantly is not true. Disagreements happen.
I’m tired of people defending members of SS and past members when they refuse to own up to their toxic and elitist behavior.
Bunny has issues yes but I think she uses them as a crutch to do bad things. This isn’t highschool. You can’t say things like she does then blame it all on issues that she isn’t actively seeking to get help for. Period. At that point it’s a crutch.
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The only questionable ones might be their Chika and Hanamaru, but the Hanamaru just quit. Individual photos of them are posted though and in western idol standards, they’re really pretty.
Start Splash came from a group called Wild Stars that disbanded a long time ago.
Only I think their You, Chika and Yoshiko were the ones that came over in the transition.
The original group was of Blynn, Liz, Megan, Maddie, Stormie, Bambi, Kat, Bunny and Ally.
Only people left are Blynn, Megan and Bambi who are the You, Dia and Mari.
I’ve heard a lot of things from former members but there is some stuff that’s was posted publicly if anyone has screenshots:
1. One of the members posted something really shitty about their original chika on their Instagram story
2. This was posted on 4chan a while back with screenshots. They made a Instagram story of former members in hilights. Their second chika asked them to take it down because she didn’t want to be associated with them anymore and they didn’t. Apparently they sent her a bunch of shitty messages? No screenshots of that though. She then posted about how toxic they were and deleted her account
I know about that.
They posted her as a graduate to not make things more dramatic on both sides and she asked to take it down, and they did. There was no drama other than that, that I am aware of.
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Here you go.
Have fun speculating how I got the caps, but just know I’m not who you think I am.
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DEFINITELY looks like she has downs. Now you’re just being mean anon, probably mad you don’t look that good.(samefag)
He felt like the Chika was trying to take his group away from him or something like that. I know the Chika, from what I've seen and have heard she has stated that she only wanted to offer input, not to take over the group. Call me biased but, I believe her. She left because of the drama in the group as well as personal issues in her life.
She can be brash as fuck (I've experienced it first hand even) but I don't believe this "Chika bullied the group" narrative. A few members wanted her back and have made amends with her even before Bunny put all her personal business out there.
sage for no milk
it's like there's this thing if "net idol shit" isn't taken seriously enough then performances come out cringey vs if it is taken too seriously people still a problem with it
apparently, there's no winning here
i don't see an issue with people taking it seriously. there is absolutely no problem when people are trying to improve their skills and getting better, irregardless if it's considered a "niche weeb hobby"
some niches eventually turn out to become bigger things based on the contributions of the community and right now there's just an oversaturation of mediocre shit.
still see a problem with it*
sorry i had to correct that
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Lol people just want to party and fuck blynn, nobody really likes him and he doesn't really like anyone in the community either, he barely likes his own teammates.
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Their previous Riko's cat died and she raised money to pay for cremation cause she couldn't afford it and blynn posted this. Talk about a fuck you to someone who just lost their pet.
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Unless she gave that money back, he’s not wrong… Not the first time i’ve heard about this and i did my digging a while back.
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yeah because cremating your cat, sending its ashes to england, then have the ashes urned into a wearable necklace for memory sake is so cheap she might as well get it done at walmart
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its pretty obvious that ss members are posting here to defend themselves and look innocent
Unless this is something she does a lot this is weak milk. A little distasteful, but not really lolcow worthy.
If there is more, provide proof.
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galaxy girl pad put this on twitter from a school thing……… it’s kind of cringe.Place and time for the weeb stuff
This honestly just seems depressing and not very noteworthy, why does everyone in the western idol community seem to constantly selfpost or make obvious vendetta posts?
I'm a bit suspicious about a quite a few of the posts in this thread and the lack of actual milk.
The western idol community is just… like that
There are way too many idol groups actively competing for a limited amount of public attention, so half of everyone hates each other
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Perhaps I can offer some milk.
>Leader of Mosuri
>Constantly shittalks and complains about the other members, all of which are younger than her
>"I'm gonna have to focus on cultivating talent"
>Causes drama in the maid cafe she's apart of
>Cannot sing. Thinks singing louder = singing better
>Lurks constantly for people talking about her
>Possibly has enlisted a friend to lurk for her. Has one of the other members of Mosuri lurking and reporting back to her as well
>Performs by herself so often it's like she doesn't even want to be a part of the group anymore
Attached is an example of her complaining about another member of the group.
Well people kept complaining about all the drama because half the people there don’t care and just wanna check the content so a lolcow thread was suggested for a while. Guess someone got fed up and finally did it
What’s the deal with stellure? They’ve been building hype on their insta for what feels like forever and then they turn around and announce they’re disbanding?
There's some speculation that the group members had a falling out since some of them are still going to continue performing, with 3 forming their own group and one (possibly two) going solo.
>They’ve been building hype on their insta for what feels like forever and then they turn around and announce they’re disbanding?
It would have been much less jarring if they had announced before all the hype that this was going to be their final performance before disbanding. It doesn't seem like they had plans to disband at that time and something only just came up>>36838
NTAYRT but Ally Vega runs Idol Academy, where people take dance and vocal lessons to become "idols"https://idolacademyreg.wixsite.com/home/about-us
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like a few weeks ago, two net idol threads on cgl got deleted because of drama and infighting overtaking them. now stupid shit like pic related can hopefully be redirected and contained to this thread
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imagine working at a Japanese restaurant just to see this
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The group that she’s talking about is Project Infinite Entertainment on IG.
Currently they do Vocaloid ?
tia is still together with her boyfriend?
she graduated vantan now
That's kind of what I got out of it too. The ages were 17 and 19 so I think that's safe under the law and kind of a shitty reason to kick someone out.
I'm a big fan of one or two of the cosplayers in their group but the ones I don't really know or follow seem to be the delusional ones.
Just because they helped advocate doesn’t mean they were good advocates. Everyone in the New England community knows how toxic
Idolized is but nobody will speak out because they don’t want to be targeted by them.
Hi, I am the ex-idolized member about the dog surgery! normally i would ignore this kind of stuff but i figured i should share my end of the story before rumors and misconceptions about what happened spread. I think this was about 4 years ago if I remember correctly? Originally I was supposed to do an all day cosplay with Idolized but my friends had invited me to be part of a panel. I’ve never been in one before so I asked the group if it was okay for me to step out for about two hours and then jump back in. And the result was not what I was expecting. The group got mad at me and 3 members openly admitted to talking behind my back about lack of commitment to the group and it felt shitty. I felt shitty and stupid for even asking and I remember crying about it to my friends. So, I told my friends that as much as I would love to do a panel, I can’t.
My dog had to get chemotherapy and a surgery so all the money I had been saving was gone. I was working on average some 30 hours a week while in school and that wasn’t enough to cover the costs so I had to axe some outfits from my lineup. Unfortunately I had already paid for the hotel and badge, etc. so I had decided to go to the con anyways. I told Idolized I couldn’t do the cosplay anymore because I needed to put anything and everything towards my dog. They were “fine” with it but you could tell that some of them weren’t happy with my decision.
Around this time, my other friend had to drop because of money and he had an anxiety attack because he saw how the group had reacted to me. I guess to add worse to the matter, my mom had surprised me with a cosplay from my wishlist because she knew I had been not feeling great. It was the cosplay from the panel. Sometimes I still wish it had been the idolized cosplay.
After the con I remember I had seen the idolized instagram page post that they were looking for a new person to replace a certain idol. I was that group’s certain idol. They never told me. They never said anything or warned me or asked me. Just one day I was gone? I didn’t have the stomach to ask anyone either out of fear of being attacked again so I just cried and moved on. A few months later I started to talk with some of the members again and we’re good mutuals now. I think I went to one of their performances? Idolized has a group of wonderful people but only outside of Idolized. Maybe it was just like a bad roommate situation. This happened at the very beginning of idolized. I don’t know what happened to everyone else but only 2 of the original 9 stayed. I guess the rest of us were voted off the island haha. I don’t do idol groups anymore. In fact, i don’t even do idol stuff that much anymore and if I do it’s by myself or on my own terms. I don’t want to go through that again. Maybe they thought I was lying about my dog? I’m not sure. The only thing I know is that it took me a long time to not feel guilty for not doing the cosplay in order to put the money towards my dog. On the other hand, my dog’s chemo didn’t work and she passed away three months later so maybe I should have just accepted it and cosplayed with idolized.
Either way, I don’t live in the area and have no intention of coming back so it’s no longer my issue, and I don’t have anything against the members. I do hear stories from time to time though of other members that have been given the boot and it feels like nothing has changed but I don’t know. As for the ex-idolized members, we made a group chat just to comfort each other. I don’t know how but a good chunk of people that left seem to carry this guilt of some sort. We all ended up walking out in tears but the one good thing that came out of this is I really have met amazing people. So thank you, Idolized.
That's too bad. I figured the Eli and Nozo might be nice too. It's interesting to hear.
The Maki, and having their partner join with auditions as Umi sounds like a total shit show imo.
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this is their Eli, does she seem nice?
I mean as someone who has struggled with people making fun of them on top of also having terrible social anxiety like she does, I kinda get her frustrations? Plus that was on her personal I assume, since it looks like an insta story I havent seen.
I mean idk, like yeah the way it's worded is a bit off putting, but I can also understand the idea that she's just trying to feel better in a way .
I'm kinda neutral on that example.
Nozomi is notorious for targeting other Nozomi cosplayers and telling others behind their backs that she’s a better Nozomi than them when she looks like she’s 20 years old than the rest of the group. Eli is worst of all, posting things like >>45097
and others about other idol groups on her MAIN instagram’s story.
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they're not going to deny bullying people at all?
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Two members of Idolized are having a performance this weekend, (and starting a new group?) perhaps some tea will be spilled considering they were the last big topic of the thread.
omfg is claudie really
still doing this shit? i haven't spoken to her in 5 years!
She’ll do whatever it takes to stay relevant, even if it’s joining the group most widely known in new england to be toxic
. Haven’t seen her tripping on the cgl aidoru thread in a while, probably afraid to show her face in case Idolized gets mentioned there again and she gets well deserved
call outs for being an attention whore like last time.
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Yeah so tight-knit that they booted a member and started trashing them on 4chan
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I was curious so I checked idolized's insta and found the post that announces 2 members graduation and I'm kinda surprised it has such an uwu lovey dovey tone. Given what I've heard about people getting kicked out it seems really two-faced and fucked to pretend everyone is on good terms.
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Wtf is this shit, this is so gross. You’re telling me 6 out of the 9 members sold themselves out for this creep?
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Fuck Darling to death. Their Ota performance was lame ass shit and they got an award for it then they have the balls to go and say they were "so tired after everything we put into this darling performance day (rehearsal, craftsmanship judging, regular photoshoot, pv filming and solo dance filming Not to mention the actual masquerade itself!" You dumb bitches don't even realize most of the masq participants were doing that shit.
I fucking hate them and I hope they eat shit and die.(a-logging)
Darling is just as bad, if not worse, than Idolized. Seeing a post like >>60815
isn't a suprise or vendetta.
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Yes, along with Idolized's Eli.
It seems like Darling is basically a scheme to win as many masquerades as possible by recruiting a ton of members and entering as many competitions as possible. I'm guessing this makes a lot of other groups salty.
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Claudie really seems like the type to feed off of negative attention so I wouldn't be surprised
you guys don't get it she removed people after
she got posted.
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I remember Claudie defending the two weird bearded Ruby and Dia dudes that everyone (including me) has experienced as being disgusting and creepy so I dug in the archives to find it
she was good at constructing her own costumes (on the outside), but always lazily made the rest of stellure's. but lately all of her sewing she's done with darling has been hot garbage.>>62125
Anon your friend should ask for a refund, even a partial one. If your friend isn't 100% happy with her commission and has to use her own time/resources to fix it then she deserves at least SOME of her money back so she doesn't sink more money into a garbage pit. I've done partial/full refunds as a seamstress myself and while it's disheartening to know the work you did wasn't 100% your best, it's better than a client slandering you all over the internet for refusing a refund. Which will be warranted if Mimi does refuse to give your friend a refund.
so did this happen or was it made up so we'd feel bad for claudie?>>63974
showing up to as many events as possible and posting regularly on social media, and having some members with pre-existing popularity.
NTA but I get what she means, even if you wks don't. LL is popular with younger female fans and being cringy and lewd in character and directing towards those fans is bad road.
No one was every complaining that they are sexualizing the characters, just that they're trying to make lewd cosplay aidoru shit look appealing to their underage fans.
I don't understand how a thread about cringy weebs who do shitty dance covers is full of so many wks. Any net-idol group is going to be the cringiest group of weeaboos ever. ALl of them are mediocre at best, yet put themselves up there with real idols who sing and dance and make 100ks a year. It's embarrassing and defending them is even more embarrassing.
You don’t have to double post, calm down. I didn’t miss it, i just have a problem with the second part. I haven’t experienced it so i can’t really form an opinion (this thread isn’t exactly reliable information).
Also even if their profiles had to do with being idols, gravure idols are absolutely a thing and these girls photos are way more tame than some actual Japanese idols. I have a feeling you don’t know much about idols at all or Love Live, since one of the new girls personality literally revolves around her sex appeal.
>>64700>I don't understand how a thread about cringy weebs who do shitty dance covers is full of so many wks
Prob because the /cgl/ threads are already circlejerks for wannabe net idols
The best/worst ones are the ones who go all in on making themselves waifus and then get triggered
when stereotypical creepy older guys show up to their gigs. Like bitch how do you think idols make money in Japan? Love Live is literally the
stereotypical creepy virgin nerd fandom over there
Rith hacked into their e-mail. She lied about having done it until they checked IPs to see who had recently accessed the e-mail, and it was traced back to her. She even e-mailed A-kon staff after the fact trying to demonize them.
Which is why TIF didn't get a panel.
This is not true.
No one backed anything and if they did, it was hidden from the original SS members.
If Rith did it of her own accord, she should be held accountable- not the group.
You don't have to try and cover for yourself, you know.
Blynn already came out and said that it happened. You'd be at a loss trying to find any proof to the contrary. Why do you think TIF didn't get a panel?
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So some context here, since everyone is just throwing out hate with no caps or context, way back when with the confusion in akon ownership changes they accidentally sent out acceptance emails to everyone who applied. Then akon had to go back and correct that, and EVERY local idol group got waitlisted. TIF, SS, ProStar, everyone. So there was a lot of stress going around as to what was going to happen to everyone. So then this event called Otaku Overload happens, Start Splash is there performing. Word gets around that someone from akon staff partying with the group told them that they would try to pull strings to bump the group up on the wait list because they thought they were cool people. Concerned between all of the changes in staff and ownership that bumping groups over favoritism; Rith reached out to a friend on staff for advise on if that seemed problematic
or not. The person looked in to it and reassured her that the staffer at otaku overload was there specifically to scout for cosplay contest half time show talent and it was unrelated to the panels and just a miscommunication and not to worry. To which everyone moved on about the topic. This was all before Rith was even invited to be a part of TIF staff.
Weeks later, Rith is now on TIF staff, Blynn (SS founder and You) starts interrogating people. Freaking out on and accusing everyone, even people who were never associated with the group, of hacking their Instagram to frame them for leaking emails. Really just a lot of nonsense.
So I have no idea what sparked the whole witch hunt a month later, but it was before Rith was even staff. If something else other than Rith asking a friend for advise happened I’d be interested to see screen caps of it. Otherwise it sounds like a classic Blynn meltdown where they get on 4chan to vent anonymously. They did the same thing to their Chika last year.
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Just more caps for the curious
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Here’s a cap showing Blynn saying that they were framed by someone hacking their Instagram. Rith doesn’t know the head of akon, that’s not who she emailed. So idk what his meltdown was about.
Blynn has always had an irrational fear that everyone is out to get the group when honestly, nobody cares. He just tries so hard to keep and the group relevant.
Don’t get me wrong, they work hard but not hard or better than anyone else. I am so tired of hearing about this but there is some serious dirt on some of the remaining SS members.
I think almost everyone in the community would agree they’re sick of talking about start splash. Most people call them “the group who shall not be named” because if you mention them it’s starts a whole shit storm.
But every six months or so people mysteriously start talking shit about ex members, and accusations start going around that someone is trying to “tarnish their name” or “frame them for something.”
No one cares, every ex member just wants to move on, and no one wants to talk about them anymore.
This, everyone bumping this thread is someone just connected to who they are bitching about.
There’s so much that has happened that is worth discussing for laughs or cringe from other groups but the same groups are discussed here.
I think my point was misunderstood. I said almost everyone. SS has burned a lot of people, they’ve cycled 8 team members in two years (Liz, Taina, Olivia, Bri, Whisper, Rith, Kat and Bunny, then Liz again), only one of which left on good terms. They’ve also had members piss off some other groups. Then once you include friends of offended parties; there is definitely a large group of people that are very bitter and would gladly come and dish dirt.
My statement is to say ALMOST everyone else is over it and just wants to ignore them.
They told me how they got it and that wasn’t it chief. Maybe you’ve got the wrong homestuck. 80% of them have gotten monk from each other at some
Point. Homestucks are nasty fucks
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Well this is the post, Im not sure if you misunderstood. It looks like the last time he cosplayed homestuck was 2015 too according to his facebook?
They told me myself. It was lighthearted shit.
No names but if that’s the same person then lmfaooo they’re just twisting anything for sympathy huh
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Is there any consensus on HEART HEX? https://www.instagram.com/heart_hex/
I've heard some old milk that one of the members was caught for stealing at CAD a few years back but didn't know the legitimacy of it.
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Looks like Megan of Peachy Parade is dipping her toes in the lewd pool, how long til the rest of them start doing gravure?
I wasn’t able to make that one.
Was anyone here able to check out some of the idol bullshit at ADallas? I wanna hear people’s thoughts on the performers. I know a handful of solo idols debuted/performed
Yes let's bump a dead thread by telling people not to bump it.
Bonus because you had a slight meltdown over the fact that no one cares about you
I never said don’t bump the thread specifically, but to give up on the thread. just quit these stupid ass updates every 1-2 months. If the thread is getting updated that unoften then I think it’s just the same 4 people obsessed with tea and it’s pretty boring. You talk shit about the most boring, average girls who (like most people) just want attention but yeah I’m the retard.
Like I said a chunk of these idols are underage or don’t qualify to be talked about, this is just a house for vendettas. This thread should be banned
I’ll admit I forgot to sage like a newfag but point stands, quit necroing this thread when it’s milk is so unbelievably shit
Aight fine keep being pathetic losers taking shit about random girls on lolcow, I’m just gonna mention that this thread is on the mods hit list cause of all the shit tier vendetta posting the the posts about minors that have not been deleted
. I wouldn’t have brought up the minor posts if I didn’t see them. Hope you guys find some milk that isn’t the same level of quality as the shit coming out of your assholes? Best of luck reviving this thread
Tbh… it actually was my mistake. I pulled a dumbass and rant posted here instead of letting it die. I’m the one who brought it back. I just thought it was stupid/pathetic how people kept coming back begging for milk despite there not being anything. The whole thread IS full of shitty vendetta posts and self posts though. Also I’m not an idol, just a con goer who knows 2-3 idols.
it’s all ridiculous because they’re just regular girls, most of them. They don’t have shit on any of the other girls who have lolcow threads dedicated to them. They don’t even have plastic surgery or drug drama like most other threads do. This thread is boring and lame.
>>77325>is friends with idols
LOL welp looks like we found a white knight haha no wonder why you were so triggered
of this threads existence look if you're soo "worried" about underage people here then email the admin she is super reachable and if your claims have any validity I'm sure she would have taken care of it by now. Seriously just ignore this thread and stop coming here since it's clear you lack thick skin. It's the internet and people are always gonna talk shit even of your pwecious idorus
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“Take the fucking picture so I can breath already”
LN has been relatively quiet imo. As a local and mutuals with some of the members, whatever they're dealing with is hardly milky and it's been kept mostly under wraps. If anyone is closer to them and has more details then please feel free to share, just wanted to put it out there that major stuff is kept pretty quiet among them.
They've made it a while without having any major drama, it's only a matter of time before some brony neckbeard crosses the line; this state is a swamp. One of them is gonna end up kidnapped and murdered because a scrote's pony waifu rejected him.>>79434
I will say that Mae is pretty toxic
though. Surprised she still has friends.
Are you gonna make us beg or something? Fucking say it. Also, both you and >>79571
SAGE holy shit! sage if you have no milk! Your newfaggery reeks.
It’s been expanded on before. >>80014
Nobody but you cares. Feel better about your own body and maybe you won’t be so uptight.
On one hand, it doesn’t matter that they do lewds and they ARE their own bodies. But on the other, one time I went to an idol panel and one of the creepy old guys kept asking for pictures with me despite explaining that I wasn’t in the group that performed and wasn’t in cosplay. Very uncomfortable. Knowing it might be happening to minors is kind of weird… it’s just a very finicky grey area tbh. Maybe lewd cosplayers should keep their idol side on the dl so pervs are less likely to come to lives? Idk.
/whispers/ sage your posts pls
You’re right… I redact my “on one hand…on the other…” statement and raise: leave lewd cosplayers alone cause it’s their bodies and this is the net idol/dance cover thread, not the cosplayer gen or lewd cosplay threads. And also it can be observed that there’s no association between lewdists and creeps stronger than the association between any cute girl at a con and a creepy guy.
I wish idol groups and cons could team up to find a way to target these guys. It would certainly help with harassment and molestation at cons
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Does it gross anyone else out that Kazu from tambourine does lewd cosplay sets of characters that are actually childlike children? I don’t mean like aged up sexy cosplays or characters their age doesn’t matter, I mean her sexy love live sets. I know there is a debate about if it’s wrong to do that or not, but I think it crosses the line when they’re as childish as someone like Chika… like, the word “School idol” is literally on your tits above your under boob.
lol probs pedos and weeby neckbeards. >>81500
kek ikr! but this girl use to say how she is so humble and how she doesnt care about material things but we all know she is a suggar baby looking for a jap suggar daddy, bitch is thirsting for someone like gackt but too bad the only thing she might end up with is a gajin hunter (btw sage your posts)
so ive had some milk on hamako for a while now but it seems like a good time to share finally.
so we all remember how hamako came out and exposed one of their members as a sexual predator and recieved a lot of love and support online for being brave enough to out him? they're so full of shit.
i talked to hamako at ausa, the last convention they performed at while the creep was still in their group. they knew at the convention they were going to replace him and were scouting around for replacements, although they didn't say why. in fact, i later found out after they kicked creep out that creep had been creeping on group members for over a year, to the point one girl even dropped out and they knew why. however, they let creep stay because they didn't want to have to find a replacement i guess and let that interfere with having a full group.
anyway, i talked to creep at ausa while he was still in the group. creep was really nice and friendly to me but i didn't know he was a creep, and hamako didn't warn me about him being a creep either. he was even hugging me and all that while i was in their hotel room right in front of the group.
after ausa, creep started messaging me to join my idol group but i turned him down because i thought it'd be in poor taste to take on the ex member of a group i "thought" i was friends with. then lo and behold, hamako kicked him out for reasons they didn't want to specify unless you dmed to ask. i asked and then i found out he was a creep :/
cue hamako then deciding to parade that he's a creep on insta and playing up how they were the victims of abuse and getting so much love and support for being so brave. meanwhile i, and who knows how many others, were or were almost victims of the same creep due to their silence. i even told hamako how he almost ended up joining my group and they didn't even apologize for their negligence or anything.
they aren't victims. they aren't brave. stop supporting them.
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Oh BOY have I got some net-idol milk for everyone..
There's a newer group called Soda Pop Symphony, that hasn't even debuted yet and is already involved in drama. Some of you may know them as former Starkiss idols.
Basically the short part from what I know, is a member (I think she was actually a leader) named Caroline got kicked out of the group. Caroline was also a former member of start splash, a looong time ago apparently, and was kicked out for bullying other members.
What apparently happened is that Caroline previously in the group had been ignoring members concerns, being EXTREMELY toxic toward another dance group (Honey Heart Beat), and making decisions without consulting the group.
I don't know much about this actual part, just stuff like suddenly deciding to change the debut from A-Fest to A-kon giving them less practice time, some members saying they can't because of finals, Caroline ignoring them saying that, and also being very aggressive to Honey Heart Beat in the group chat. A big red flag was her telling the group that they cant support Honey heart beat whatsoever, and one girl who had a friend in the group nearly got kicked out by Caroline for saying that she wants to support her friend, even if she's in honey heart beat.
Now Here's the milk
A few members went to one of the other leaders about the concerns about people being ignored, how aggressive she was being, etc, and that leader brought up their concerns about Caroline and a few other things in the leader group chat. And Caroline went nuts. She called everyone backstabbers and liars, and then left the group chats.
The three remaining leaders were messaging her over and over again begging her to come back, the one who sent the concerns even saying she would leave the group if that meant she would come back, all no. Then Caroline said she would consider coming back, if the members who had concerns about her came forward and apologized. 3 girls came forward to Caroline, apparently a few more that said something decided not to come forward.
Caroline immediately started yelling (as much as you can in text) at the people who came forward, a few members apparently getting guilt tripped pretty badly by her.
The leaders were sent screenshots of this, and Caroline decided she wants to come back. Well, in the end the leaders decided that it would be best for Caroline not to join back the group considering how she reacted to the concerns (just leaving) and also guilt tripping members.
Caroline blocked everyone in the group, even people not involved and went to her instagram and immediately started shit talking the group, saying she was gonna do a live stream and expose them and all their lies (she never did)
Starkiss rebranded to Soda Pop Symphony, presumably to get rid of the name associated with Caroline and start as a new group.
Soda Pop has not said anything at all about the whole Drama, probably trying to just move past it, whereas almost daily for 2 weeks Caroline was posting about them on her story. Caroline started a new group called Neosenshi_idols
It's extremely funny, a group that hasnt even debuted yet has so much drama.
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Oh I've heard about that group, all I gotta say is that their yoshiko is ugly as hell lmao
when will idols groups start trying to get people that actually look like the character instead of fat ugly girls
Just when you think the Texas idol community has calmed down, damn. Who let this 12 year old run an idol group?
Fact-Checking milk here: As dramatic as Start Splash is, Caroline was never a member. She might have auditioned or something, but never a member. For once SS isn't involved.
She seems toxic
and needs to be careful about all this "outing people" stuff, its not a good look.
My apologies! Caroline herself is the one telling people she got kicked out of Start Splash, but according to her the reason being that the girls simply didn't like her and "were petty"
According to girls who used to be close friends with her though, she told THEM that she "criticized" a few members on their appearance and they "overreacted"
Not sure if she was maybe a backup or secret member, or if she was lying to get more attention. Probably lying lmao
That was the only thing I was kinda unsure about though, I have screenshots for everything else
I don’t know about whether or not she was in SS specifically, but I heard that Caroline started starkiss idols to get back at her old group for kicking her out. Starkiss was literally a group made from pettiness and dragged a whole bunch of unsuspecting people into it. if anything the people she dragged into starkiss are the victims
. good on them for kicking her out tbh
Seems that she’s lying then, a big red flag anyways
I seriously don’t understand why she would lie about it. For clout? Attention? Maybe she wanted “recognition” as a previous SS member (even though it’s a lie?) I don’t know
She’s seriously starting to irk me though, the more I hear about her the more I start to hate her. I heard from one of my photographer friends that she brought him into the Starkiss group to take pictures for them, but she wanted him to ONLY take pictures of their idol group, no other group. This kinda made him upset because he has friends in other groups. He never did say If he compromised on that or not.
When this all went down and they kicked her out, she tried guilt tripping him to leave the group and join her new group. Saying that if he continues to take pictures for them she’s not gonna be friends with him anymore, etc. Of course this basically brought him into the drama and put him in a difficult position. He felt bad because SHE was the one who brought him into Starkiss, and he knew her the longest. But, at the same time he really liked everyone else in the group and didn’t want to have to leave because of her. Starkiss/SodaPop specifically told him that if he needed to for his well being, he could leave the group. Nobody would be mad at him and they all would still love him.
He ended up telling her that he left, but actually stayed in the group. Somehow she found out and blocked him from everything. She keeps telling everyone she has “spies” in the group, but from what I heard it was actually just her talking to some members, and asking stuff like “what’s your set list so we can avoid those songs?” “What con are you debuting so we can avoid it?” Which the leaders were fine with them telling anyways. I suspect someone told her by accident before he told the group not to say anything and not to include him in pictures. From what I’ve heard now though, she’s blocked even the people she kept saying were “spies”
Honestly soda is handling it the most mature they can be from what it looks like, whereas Caroline is being childish. I’ve heard quite a bit about her before in the idol community but I never knew it was this bad. I hope that her new group won’t have to go through all of this. I’ll be supporting neosenshi, but not her
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Here’s the instagrams for all of sodapops known members. I’ll include the characters for the ones that I know
Supposedly they have 2 new members but they didn’t show up for practice/aren’t tagged in anything or something so I have no clue who they are.
Looking at their accounts though, all of them are pretty fucking ugly except for maybe their Ruby and Chika lmao. All of them are fat af except for those two. Thank god their manager isn’t a member anymore, she’s the fattest out of all of them. A whole new meaning to whale. Wouldn’t be able to bare watching THAT dance.
Whats the point of posting all this when you can see their names on their profile?
And why are you bringing up their weight at all? Posts in here up until now have been supporting sodapop. This sounds like vendetta-level commentary again.
Hi, member of another idol group in the community.
Caroline is a racist, transphobic, homophobic, pro-life conservative who lives for drama and cannot handle criticism. She habitually plays victim
, harassed groups for promos almost daily, is highly competitive and combative in a community that shares some value in working together, and has a bigger victim
complex than anyone I've ever met.
The photographer thing you mentioned is true. I heard it from the source. He assumed going into his agreement with Caroline that that was how things worked in the idol community (spoiler alert: it's not) and only quietly questioned it to himself. He even cut off ties with her entirely after her outburst.
She was never a member of SS. Caroline is a massive liar and is infamous in the local community for being so, among other things (notably her racist/conservative tirades and orbiters chasing after people who disagree with her).
Out of everyone named in this thread, she is BY FAR the milkiest, absolutely no question.
Hi while I agree with everything else, I don’t believe that she’s transphobic or homophobic. She grew up in a very Christian household and her mom forces her to go to church every Sunday, but Caroline is also Pansexual and has trans friends who she supports and uses the right pronouns for. She has a victim
mentality for sure, and she is very toxic
, but I don’t believe she’s homophobic and transphobic.
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Here’s some of the screenshots from when she JUST left the group
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This is all I’ll post for now, I have tons of screenshots that I’ve gained from friends in the group. I Don’t really want to spam the feed though
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She was absolutely vocally transphobic in the past and has always been extremely close-minded.
More of her political bullshit.
That’s ironic because she talks all the time about how her ex bfs only wanted her for sex and never actually cared about her
“Don’t have sex” my ass
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She's plenty happy to collectively call the LGBT community a bunch of "cry babies". Self-hating queer much?
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Here's some screenshots of Caroline going off in the group about Honey Heartbeat. Apparently it was A LOT worse in leaders chat, especially about the Texas Idol Festival. She was extremely mad over them being chosen and not Starkiss.
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"WE ARE SHINING" In all caps is maybe the most delusional sounding thing I've ever heard.
Maybe if she didn't act so self important and petty she would actually get opportunities from groups like TIF.
Wait is "Camera Man Elier" "snake_n_da_box" ?
I always thought he was creepy but but hanging around a bunch of young girls like that as their "photographer" is pretty next level creep lol
“no no I can guarantee the start splash members buttered them up”
she sounds so angry towards SS, I wonder why is it because she’s not good enough to join their group so she had to lie about it?(emoji)
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Do with these what you will. She doesn't know I posting them but seeing as she called me up crying with this whole situation and then found this whole thread might as well post. I don't like people calling my friends liars. Sorry Jen if you see this and want me to delete tell me in the morning -L
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Again Jen can tell me to remove later if she wishes but seeing as None of the leaders from what I saw in the shots she sent me, did anything wrong, I don't feel she'll ask me to. She's literally been taking the high road, same with the other two [mari and manager I believe are the ones leading the group with her] She's talked to me about everything, I'm not part of the idol community [or aidoru whatever] but seeing her having been trashed and seeing these negative posts caroline posts on her insta [Also confirming, they weren't spying, she never asked but as caroline stated here in the screenshots, I hate when others talk shit behind peoples backs, so I've been sending her the screenshots along with a few other of her friends, she never asked us to but we're too old for this petty shit. She told me to stop Sunday and I have as she's requested] about the leaders and her group members. Unconfirmed because I never recieved shots but some members of her group have been recieving hate mail. It kills me inside seeing Jen stay silent and "taking the high road" while other's talk crap. They've stayed silent and tried very hard to move past everything but as said previously in this thread, caroline for 2 weeks straight was trashing her and her group. Anyways, I'll look to see for other screen shots. She'll prolly kill me but oh well maybe she shouldn't have shown me this thread <3 . -L
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"I am NOT unapproachable"
"I am NOT a ticking time bomb"
"Those are LIES"
Sounds like someone needs to read the definition of a lie again. Cause after reading everything, that sounds more like an accurate read.
Says she's not unapproachable, then literally leaves the chat in a huff when any concerns are brought up lol
I honestly don't see how these are lies and not opinions/concerns? Dont other people determine how approachable you are? Throwing a tantrum when someone, y'know, /approaches/ you with an issue is the opposite of approachable. I don't see where the lies are, maybe another anon can explain it better.
I thought these groups were about friends cosplaying and performing together because it's fun, so having a diva attitude is dumb as shit. Is everyone just trying to get cos famous or have a good time at something they worked hard on? Nvm, we all know what it is.
From what it seems, SodaPop IS trying to just have fun. Caroline was just the one preventing that, acting high and mighty and controlling everything. Just the fact that soda pop (or at least one member) knows about this thread, and haven’t said anything.. That’s probably the best decision though, saying anything would directly involve them into the drama once again, and they’re trying to move past it.
Caroline also either knows about this thread, or someone told her we were talking about her lying about being in start splash, because she posted on her insta story about it.
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She has made SEVERAL members cry, she cut off everyone who didn’t agree with her over this no matter how close friends they were (a couple of girls in the group had been friends with her for YEARS), she cut off anyone who decided to stay in the group, and she has no remorse over acting this way, still believing that she’s the victim here. She has hurt every single person involved in this.
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That seems to kind of be the problem, tbh. It sounds like Caroline won't talk to anyone and keeps shitposting on her instagram.
I guess the people posting screenshots feel the best way to get her attention and make her stop is to call her out and make it public.
As much as I'm not a fan of public callouts like this, Caroline is using her self-centered grudge to harass Sodapop, but then other groups like HH and SS are getting dragged into it too. I feel bad for the girls in Carolines NEW group, Neosenshi, cause they're getting dragged into this too by association.
From what I understand, everyone is willing to talk to Caroline, but she'd rather be petty and try and make "sister groups" and convince them to hate on her past associates.
Caroline can make her new group and do whatever she wants, but talking shit in secret about her past associates is bad and she needs to stop and probably apologize for calling them "liars" on her and her groups IGs.
First of all, I’d like to apologize. I’m not in the group or at all actually involved in the group other than being friends with a few of the members. They’re trying not to be in the drama, and instead I brought them and other groups back into the drama. I’m sorry.
I was just tired of them being stepped on and Caroline telling “her side” of the story. Some members have apparently been getting sent hate messages because of her. This was not an attempt to talk to Caroline, or get her attention, this was an attempt to tell their side of the story, because they refuse, and because Caroline has been telling hers. That is no excuse though, I brought three other groups into the drama that didn’t need to be in it.
Second of all, Soda Pop is not involved or putting messages on this site (that I know of at least), so please do not put the blame on them. This was solely me and some other friends of the group. We just couldn’t stand the way they were being treated. We saw their standing in the community going down more and more, the more Caroline told “her side”. But they refused to stand up for themselves.
I’m sorry. Please do not think badly of soda for this, they’re trying their best to just move past and be positive. They did not wish to bring anyone back into the drama, or add anyone into it, including Caroline despite how she treated them.
I especially sincerely apologize to Jen, who I ended up forcing her to send a message and involve herself. I also apologize to Honey Heart Beat, Start Splash, and NeoSenshi. None of you were involved and I brought you into it anyways.
I hope you all will support soda pop in the future despite all of this, and please don’t blame them.
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I know the whole drama is done now but I just looked at Caroline’s insta and she’s STILL posting about them in her story. I just feel bad for her new group, because they’re probably having to bear the brunt of her being mad about it.
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Muh poor idol group got attacked by mean other lian groups huuu. grow up.
EXACTLY WHAT IVE BEEN THINKING, this girl was like “I’m gonna do a livestream and EXPOSE all of their lies!!!” And never did. She keeps saying she has all the screenshots to expose them, but where are they? why hasnt she released them, huh? she sure talks about them a lot for someone with no proof.
Now it looks like she’s resorted to messaging people individually who ask about it, and showing “screenshots” (but as we’ve seen before on one of her stories, she’s cropped them very conveniently to make other members look bad)
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So aside from Caroline, Liz and Tori from Step 2 Harmony are in Neosenshi too now.
I'll be pretty shocked if this group ends up actually doing anything, with how many groups Liz has left lol
Amazing how she’s so self-absorbed that she constantly posts on her story and her group’s story about how everyone is attacking her, further fueling the fire instead of letting it die.
At least she’s getting the attention she wants.
Also in a local group, btw. She was apparently not allowed to enter TIF’s recent show because of her bullshit, including her constant antagonizing Honey Heartbeat.
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Tried to ask for proof because she kept threatening to do so on her story.
Lying again, I see?
Did you… read this entire thread?
Did you miss her entire history of harassing three different idol groups cause she's butthurt that her first group thought she was being a bit crazy?
If you’ve lurked here forever then you would know how to sage your posts, now stfu all you need fags>>83076
Looks like someone cowtipped
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Yes, this entire thread is about you. The world revolves around you.
She’s so crazy. It’s not just dedicated to you- you just are getting roasted for your terrible decisions and toxic
behavior. I wish she’d grow up. At least this picture is a lighter filter than she normally uses.
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And she’s not even trying to hide it.
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Rule of thumb, anyone who has to clarify that they’re a nice person, and that “their REAL friends” know they’re a nice person, is not a good person. You wouldn’t need to so desperately clarify that “I’m a good person!! My friends know I’m nice and caring!”
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Oh you “made amends” but still continued to shit talk them in your insta stories. Tf? I can fully believe that soda-pop symphony would try to make amends with her. Why I don’t believe it? People who “make amends” with their old group don’t shit talk them in their Instagram stories.
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Can we just talk about everything that is wrong with this girl right here, Her watanabe is so disgusting looking to me. And her personality isnt the best either seen she's been complaining about not being in an idol group yet she danced in a group before at Katsucon. Think someone seems butt hurt that no idol group wants her.
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This idiot does not know what kind of person Caroline is Lol.
Tfw they literally haven’t debuted or posted anything with their dancing so there’s no way anyone could know if they suck at dancing, unless.. you used to be part of the group. Lots to think about here.
Can’t comment on the ‘stealing money’ thing, but considering that they kicked Caroline out I wouldn’t doubt they’d kick someone else out for stealing money. Either it didn’t happen, or it was returned/didnt make the members pay again, so it wouldn’t actually be stolen.
True and I feel so bad for sodapop and the majority of neosenshi. Sodapop is trying so hard to stay out of the drama and just let it go, and I’m sure neosenshi (other than Caroline, considering she keeps bringing it up lmaooo) probably don’t wanna be involved either.
I’d be surprised if Caroline ISNT saying that everyone is harassing her
topic: finally changes from sps and Caroline
you, Caroline/Caroline asskisser: brings it up again out of nowhere solely to reignite the drama that was dying
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Nice screenshot or any level of proof behind your post.
I don't think this is Caroline, I think it's one of her weirdly protective friends. Like, you're still being manipulated by this boatshit cruizy bitch? She burns everyone around her eventually.
Fuck Caroline, but it at least sounds like she kind of is trying to stop all the hate towards her. (despite not learning anything and continuing to shit on Sodapop etc.)
Good. The Community is better off without her drama. If she's smart she'll change her username like all the other toxic
aidorus and start over. maybe try being nice, not manipulating, not going on power trips calling people liars for no reason, and spreading rumors. You only get what you give.
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Caroline needs to PUBLICLY apologize for harassing people on her PERSONAL ACCOUNT. A story post is fine. No more. No less.
Then she needs to cut her shit out with subposting and being passive aggressive. She can't expect everyone to love her as soon as it's over.
She fucked up, and fucked with the wrong people. She's burnt bridges, the best she can expect is people to stop sending her hate.
Literally an ounce of owning your mistakes and humility will work wonders.
Crack? Is that what you smoke? Crack?
Nice wking, very subtle
Actually poster. It's L again. Jen practiced their song for months and it was Caroline and another leader who changed the full group song. They only changed it once from Miracle Wave to Jumping Hearts. The Azalea song was changed by Caroline again.
Caroline was the one threatening to kick out that girl but Jen suggested they talked to her first. They were concerned but this same girl Caroline tried to kick this girl out for being negative to.
Hope y'all know that this entire thread is slander and so much more which means alot of things. A person who is harmed due to things said here can press charges and police can track all of your IP addresses to get you by the way and posting photos of underaged people without permission in any sense just to bash them is also against the law.so hope you all know you can be charged and found because if someone commits suicide from these posts and harassment of yours you can be charged with murder.
Have a lovely day hope you all grow up like real adults should and stop hating on people better then you.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
None of us that I’ve seen have told Caroline anything threatening. We’ve been rude, we’ve called her a bitch, we’ve “bullied” her in a sense, but none of it is illegal nor can we be “found and charged” for it (If she commited suicide). I can’t say for the other people who have been posted on this thread, but considering the timing, seems like it’s about Caroline.
Shut up, read the forum rules, and also maybe learn about actual law while you’re at it since you’re trying to use it against us
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she has that phat fucking SCHNOSE
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Good fucking Lord. Fuck Yui/Caroline, but having a minor fight your battles for you is pathetic.
Also all the lol at this hashtag. Only one other person shared it and they're almost as cringey as SakuraHanaIdols.
If Yui/Caroline really is on the verge of leaving, thank Christ.
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The other cringey Caroline apologist
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The other members didn't wish her any harm whatsoever, and even wanted to continue being friends. Yet she shit talked them over and over on her story, and essentially royally screwed herself.
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Lmao Caroline has her wrapped around her finger. This is really cringey. As said, getting involved was probably the worst thing sakura could’ve done
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How can you say "Stop accusing shit that's she's never done" if you weren't in the group when she did this shit?
/Samefag I can’t get over how cancerous this whole situation is. Esp Sakura directly responding to the person mentioning her. I’ve got nothing against her, but acknowledging the things in this thread, as observed time and time again, just makes it worse.
Sperging about ‘CyBeRbUlLyInG bAd’ has not only made no difference, but has made things worse. They should try laying low. They’d be amazed how fast everyone on here would stop caring if they did.
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The newest victims of Caroline @/demonicpinkidols
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Caroline has hit a new low. Now I don’t doubt that person who said that she was homophobic and transphobic before, Jesus..
What idk is why all of this had to be done on main. She didn’t have to post all these stories. Then we wouldn’t have any content to talk about or reason to dislike her, and she knows it.
It’s getting more and more clear that she is not doing this because of her actual feelings so much as for the attention. This IS bringing her a lot.
Lolcow has practically said that they would quit going after her if she quit posting this kind of stuff. It’s been made that easy for her. Yet she still does it. Mmmmm yeah attention.
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Oh wow… almost as if this is the perfect piece of evidence to reinforce my point…
Even not having solid proof, I really can't think of another DFW lovelive group that has a leader so malicious that they would do that. SS doesn't even bully that bad.
Unless Demonic Pink Idols intentionally disbanded their group to make Caroline look bad. but if that was the case they would have said her by name.
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Asked demonic for proof and got sent screenshots
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These are my messages with demonicpink. Yes, that is likely them. (Demonic, if you want me to take this down I will just message me)
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People are also claiming the screenshots were faked. Here’s my proof they weren’t.
I still hold my stand that there’s no way she was hacked. That is my personal view on the situation but I have no proof for that, it just seems that Space is a sort of biased source to be believing.
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My friend has been trying to talk to both sides of the story to understand whats been going on more and this stuck out to me from what they shared on their convo with Caroline.
I won't believe it till I see a screenshot of Carolines conversation log with the leader of DemonicPink from her account. Cause even if she deleted messages there should still be Demonics messages.
The wording was too much like carolines to ignore.
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This is something else that stuck out. If you all could decipher whats going on that would be cool. They also know some stuff with another group where she got (a member of the group now) to not audition. Caroline and another member made up lies about the members saying they where disorganized and the group would lead to ruin. That the group is rude and disrespectful. I will try to find those screenshots.
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Not just you. I'm very disconnected from the idol comm here and I can't find them. Must have deactivated.
This is very sketchy. No screenshots, no proof. Someone claiming this thread was bullying them when its been pretty clear Caroline had been bullying them and nobody even knew they existed before then.
This whole situation seems sketchy to me.
Except there is merit to their statements. I was one of the two people they allowed to follow them after the username change. No one would disband their whole group over nothing and they were repeatedly harassed by many people. I believe both Caroline and anonymous strangers have been bullying them. Although, having been a target of harassment by Caroline’s “supporters”, I would not doubt she is the one controlling all of them.
By the way, I followed them before all this went down :)
I have screenshots if you’d like, I was planning on releasing them but then demonic found the site.. then it also seemed I got them in trouble with Caroline lol
Caroline accused HER of putting the screenshot that I DID. Oops. She did tell me not to put it anywhere when she sent it to me, and then later (after I posted it) messaged me saying everything has been resolved, and they found out Caroline was hacked. I guess in the end it was okay though, because the screenshot I posted caused Caroline’s true nature to come out. She messaged me upset because after the screenshot, Caroline had changed her user I guess and she asked if Caroline was okay (this girl really is too nice :/ ) and Caroline attacked her. Calling her a liar and that she photoshops screenshots, even though previously they had agreed it was a hacker. She was also upset seeing the screenshots of Caroline talking to someone else.. because Caroline went behind her back and changed stories. Again, calling her a liar and saying she photoshopped them.
Honestly I just want to release all the screenshots I had gotten right now. But this girl really was too nice.. I kind of actually feel bad lol
If people really need proof though, then I guess I’m the only one other than demonic who has proof
From my experience female trannies harbor good old internalized misogyny and hate the thought of being seen as a slut/thot/bimbo/fujoshi/whatever they associate with being a woman. But when you're seen as a male, you can present as a girl without being branded as one of the aforementioned tropes. In other words you're finally able to do all the cute girl cosplays without having to carry the burden the society places on you. If anything, you're even more exotic and enthralling to your audience if you're a cute, androgynous fairy boi dressing up as a magical idol girl.
Source: I'm a woman but crossplay a lot of male characters, so I come across these people a lot in my circles. One of my female friends trooned out (with hormones and surgeries, the whole nine yards) and immediately started doing female cosplays while calling herself a "trap". Cringe.
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Tfw you get banned for newfaggery despite being the farmer who always spergs about sageing and showed the newfags how to reply to posts
Newfags and selfposters in this thread need to read the rules and usage guide before actually posting:https://lolcow.farm/ruleshttps://lolcow.farm/info
Stop with the blogposting, sage when you have no milk, and learn to integrate. This isn't twitter. Learn how board culture works or leave.
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One of NeoSenshis members posted this. If I recall, doesn’t she live with a girl from soda pop?
I agree but what I dont agree with is that, they should drop the "uwu so pure" act if they are out here doing shit like this, also they need to stop shaming other girls/idols who do this type of thing (opening sexy accounts) specially Sylvia and Ren they pretend to be these "pure angelic idoru uwu" but in reality they are as slutty as some other idols in this community. also the fact that they pretend to be teenagers in some of their photosets is kinda creepy. I dont have issue with megan doing this type of shit because lets be real that bitch is so ratchet and problematic
that, shit like that doesnt surprise me.
Not really cool to tell everyone all over an anonymous board where the whole world can see that her bf is abusive
. That’s private info you should only share with people involved. You’re really in it to just make yourself look better. Very distasteful. Quit self posting, uggo fag
I've followed them for years and afaik all their ex-members before mocha and maewynn don't even care about love live or idols anymore enough to come here and bash on them 3+ years later. Auracle and Quartesque are now the only active ex mystiq wish membered groups in the community so really, there isn't much left to the imagination here if you ever knew this group's history that people leave because they either lose interest in idols, or because theres a difference in work ethic not everyone is going to match with, which doesn't make them inherently problematic
unless you got any insider screens that prove otherwise. So until then, take your vendetta elsewhere. No one cares.
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anyone else see soda pops Yoshiko insta that has a idol positivity highlight? kinda sus if you ask me bc it’s like she’s trying to say HEY LOOK IM POSITIVE IM A POSITIVE PERSON I CANT DO ANYTHING WRONG LOOK AT ALL THESE NICE THINGS IM SAYING ABOUT PEOPLE and on top of that even putting positive vibe check in their bio like wtf why do you feel the need to insist that ur positive and a good person lol no wonder she was the downfall of starkiss apparently she’s the main person who even said everything bad about caroline saying they were concerns or something but they were actually just bad talking her
This is where I draw the line. No. Nu-uh. You can tear me down all you like I don't care but this girl is legit the sweetest girl on the face of the earth. I refuse to let my younger members get harassed and bullied online because of some vendeta Caroline had against us. We have all personally apologized and I even personally had a 1.5 hour long conversation with Caroline herself and listened to everything SHE had to say and we talked it out we both apologized and I didn't ask for anything else. SHE'S the one who's been threatening to post screenshots and keep drama happening. We as leaders never once said our girls couldn't talk to her we even sat down with everyone and listened to every girl to make sure they were heard and we knew how they felt. It was Caroline who left us, caroline who threatened to post screenshots and lives of the "truth", caroline who blocked US [only AFTER calling our members "spies" newsflash, having casual and natural polite conversation does not constitute a spy], it was caroline who started this. Now agaim WE ALL have reached out to and apologized about the situation, how it was handled, and the fallout that resulted. This was a situation between us and Caroline. We didn't want to go public because we didn't want anyone to be a bad guy or harrassed. We apologized for rushing her into a decision and miscommunications that proceeded it. Despite this she still wanted a public apology from us on our group page with screenshots. We kept this between us and caroline and as such we handled it as so. Caroline is the one who continuously posted publicly. EVERY SINGLE ONE OF US reached out to try to keep her in the group and every girl who asked ME to remain anonomus when bringing up the concerns ALL stepped forward to try and clarify and some even came forward just to prevent ME from getting kicked out of the group. I am sick of this whole mess and especially those who guilt trip my members and lie about them. The girl mentioned above is the sweetest and most pure girl I've ever met and she wouldn't hurt a fly and has been guilt tripped in the past by caroline so badly that she was trying not to cry. I will defend this girl and any of my girls to the last breath because I don't care about reputation.
I wish no hate on anyone ever and I don't wish any hassment to anyone [yes that includes Caroline] and I'm super excited to see what Neosenshi can do! But please. We're moved on and done with this.
I havn't heard of anything since she blocked all of us on Feb 24th. We've had no contact I havn't seen any screenshots of stories but I would like to hope and dream that caroline's moved on as well and has stopped posting stories. We legitimately wish her well but don't talk about my members.
Oh wow, someone in the Texas idol community is trying to make it LESS TOXIC
by SPREADING POSITIVITY?? Let’s all go attack her. Jfc, get a life. I personally know her as well. She is so sweet and has done nothing to deserve your anti-positivity bullshit.
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yall say that but she literally lost 5 followers since that was posted someone here is lying lmaooo also how is it that so many people apparently know her personally yet she only has 70 followers it makes no sense lmao
If any groups disband, thats excessive. Not a member but, I know one group personally that is still continuing practices as much as possible. Plus doing dance homework is a great distraction and use of time.
I do feel bad for groups that were planning on debuting at any of the canceled cons.
Does anyone think groups doing livestreams would be well received?
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Why are men being allowed in these groups when they’re such creeps? Elier of soda has been accused of inappropriately touching a girl without her consent during a lingerie shoot, and Kevin and johnathan (I think are their names) are just as bad. Johnathan has been caught flirting and wanting sex from a minor and Kevin has made many uncomfortable passes at idols and has also gone through some of the girl’s bags before a practice. Why are these guys being allowed near these girls?
Have to kind of remember that, especially in the case of Elier, they aren’t IN the groups. They’re merely photographers. Its not right to judge a group depending on what photographers they use.. tbh most groups just go for the cheap ones. Female photographers, especially ones willing to take pictures for idol groups, are kinda hard to come by, AND are usually in the pricier range. (I can’t say for Johnathan or whoever in honey heartbeat, as I think he’s their actual manager)
I do agree though that elier is.. very creepy. Of the male photographers I’ve worked with, I’ve never had anyone be as explicitly creepy as him. He kept asking me if I did lingerie or underwear shoots, and repeatedly I told him NO. I never beat around the bush or just hinted I didn’t like it, I straight up said NO. He was like okay but if you ever want to do any I’ll always be open to doing them. My friend who I was doing the shoot with is chubby, and he never asked her once. This lead me to believe more that he was being insanely creepy and wanted to take lewd pics of me lol
I believe he was originally brought into starkiss (now soda) by Caroline because I know at one point they were friends. I’m not sure if they still are due to this whole situation, I’m thinking not because they’re not following each other. I feel like soda is too scared to kick him out because of everything that’s already went down. and now I’m kind of thinking Elier had a crush on Caroline, especially considering all of his vague posts about her on his insta story lol
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On the subject of sodapop, I saw they announced Myka/Mika/Mickey as their Dia.
I guess this group is cancelled, aside from associating with Elier, they now have a rude, sandbagging, costume credit-stealing, rapist in their group.
I guess she thought being an Idol was trendy cause she's never shown any interest in idols before.
I guess pawning her same three fursuits and stolen overwatch armor got boring.
There was rumors that awhile back she took advantage of a male cosplayer while he was intoxicated at a convention. But everyone knows not to associate with her so it’s really sad for SDP to decide to bring someone into their group that’s such a terrible person.
I’ve seen her bully people crazy bad in person and online- she’s just another Caroline if not worse.
The story is that she forced herself on a big name male cosplayer at a con. He was drunk and didn't consent. He has a way bigger following than her so he wasn't clout chasing. He never went public about it cause he technically has no "proof".
Buuuuut, Look at her out of cosplay pics and you know someone wouldn't touch that consensually.
I’ve personally never heard of these rumors at all, and I’ve been in the cosplay community for over 10 years. Honestly it’s not far fetched to think that maybe SPS simply didn’t know about it, and it’s not like mickie would tell them lmao
Also a lot of the girls in the group are very very new to the cosplay community, I think only 2 Or 3 girls have been in it for longer than 2-3 years.
I've been in the community for 10 years too and I've heard this stuff and worse.
For sure Sodapop didn't know this stuff, and don't blame the rest of the girls but Mika is in their group now so we have to consider that when referring to sodapop a whole. Unless they kick her out cause of drama. Which might happen, she loves drama.
Good to know that this is now Mykas group. She will completely destroy this group and you guys defending her will see it soon. I feel bad for the young cosplayers who will be exposed to this ‘popular’ cosplayer who is one of the most toxic
in this community.
She wins in a cosplay contest with a costume, then enters the same costume in another contest after already winning with it. Most contests don't allow you to enter costumes don't let you enter with a costume you've already won with.
She also enters contests at a lower skill level then she should be at.
Then to top it off she enters contests with costumes she hasn't even made. Then boasts about being a cosplay judge when she's only judged at ~1,000 attendee cons.
I've heard she's the worst to compete against, she complains to high hell when she doesn't win.
Every time I'm in the general vicinity of her she's the only person I hear because she's so fucking loud. Everything is about her, she's always talking about how she did such an such thing on her costume because it was nicer or cleaner than other techniques, etc. She was legit crying when she won Masters at A-Kon last year. She's also not that great of a judge. All she did was ask "did you make this piece" instead of, you know, actual constructive questions.
I can't imagine she'll last long in a group where she's not the center of attention, considering Dia isn't the main character.
So caroline cheated on him, then when he dumped her she claimed he raped her.
Person of the year award goes to…
She most likely wouldn't wanna spread around that she sexually assaulted someone at a party. Its not really a fun story to tell at Chillis.
She's been nothing but rude to me any time i've met her. Completely ignored me when I was tabling near her despite trying to be friendly. I've heard from people who roomed with her that She's very lazy and manipulative. Good luck, Have fun with that ego.
Our inboxes are always open. No one has ever informed me specifically of any wrong doings, Myka may or may not have done in the past despite me having followed her for years and been her friend for years. My group is my family and they know that and Myka understands. I want to recieve the truth about the whole situation. I've heard Myka's side and would love to hear from any parties involved who may be able to provide more information on this situation. I want to make an informed decision based on facts given to me and not just what I know about Myka as her friend. As I said my inbox on IG is always open. I'd prefer if you were able to chat with me personally on there instead of me having to find these things out on shit-post forum boards who've blatantly lied about and trashed my group. Please understand I am a survivor of Sexual Assault and in no way condone any behavior in that matter. Thank you for your time,
You obviously have never been sexually assaulted. The way that this group had been reacting just proves that they are not good people. You’re defending a rapist- above anything else and victim
blaming. I’m really disgusted and I hope this group dissolves. SP is canceled. The end.
Did we not literally just go through an entire year of KickVic bullshit and y'all are still blaming victims
and screaming for proof? I can't tell if you're males defending your kawaii uguu idols or Sodapop/Myka themselves. Men especially don't gain anything from lying about being raped so I don't know what the fuck you think you're going to find out by flooding this thread with your un-saged bullshit.
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And it seems Myka is no longer in sopop as it shows in their story, they have a new Dia. Probably because they really don't want the drama and backlash.
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They asked him to step down. Not like it’s gonna make it any better that they even had him in the first place lmao I wonder how many girls he made uncomfortable while in the group
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Wow, sodas Yoshiko went private while Caroline went public. Funny how she decides just now to unprivate herself
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Hi, dyslexic moron :) did you not see when I said there are some bad seeds? They are new to the idol (and some even the cosplay) communities. A lot of them don’t know how to cope with such sudden criticism and getting talked about. They don’t know how to react.
Every group has a few bad people but to assume they are all bad seems almost more stupid than you forgetting to sage your post.
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You’re not helping your case by continuing to use the site incorrectly, retard. People on lolcow are embarrassingly transparent so don’t act like everyone on here can’t tell what the others motives are. Yours are especially obvious. Get offline before you make your brain hurt anymore.
you type bad and leave an obvi post trail.
The illiterate telling ppl to learn to read lmfao. The thread has come full autism circle.
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Stfu. It’s idol-ing, it’s not that deep and you’re not that better than people who don’t aidoru
Nobody blames the whole group for the mistakes of the leadership, but the leadership takes responsibility for the actions of the group.
Sodapop is just making stuff worse for themselves at this point.
If they didn't know about the history of Mika, I can't blame em, but how they handled it was piss poor. Hopefully this new dia isn't garbage and they can move on from this.
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She sent me this. It’s between Jen and her. Jen apologized and then she did with this. Saying how hurt she was and manipulated she was. All she ever wanted was the truth to be out there to the public, since everyone thought Sodapop was innocent when they weren’t. They had betrayed her, not the other way around. Caroline is human and has made mistakes, but she is not the monster she has been painted as on here. I am her friend and have been for years now. She would never threaten to out someone when she herself was without her permission, she’d never falsely accuse someone of raping her or someone when she herself is a victim, and her tumor is real I have seen her medical records/ stop attacking someone who has apologized and has moved on.
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Photo 3 that I was sent
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Photo 4 I was sent
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And photo 5. She sent me more after this but I thought these showed enough. After this they just discussed panel related stuff so nothing related to the situation at hand
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Idk why everyone on lolcow thinks they have the right to a distended ego when all we do it talk shit. People don’t change cause we’re right, they change cause they feel pressured into it. We’re all just randos with opinions. So quit acting like some outstanding feat took place?
You also just sound like a condescending asshole and I’d hate to know you irl
if thats the kiara I’m thinking of like i went to school w/ her. i didnt recognize her until like just now, believe it or not she was like even uglier back then than she is now. she’s gained a lot of weight tho hahaha
we were both in anime club, she was like super clingy and annoying to anyone who showed her a basic decency of human kindness. not surprised that she would stalk someone insta especailly if like she ised to be friend with the person she was stalking
she would always like just sit in the back of the room and draw anime and like not speak at all it was super creepy everyone avoided her lmao suprised shes not a school shooter. she quit highschool like mid freshman year too, so obvi shes not very smart either
i suggest you stay away from her unless you want some creepy loner school shooter lookin ass following you around
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1. Our captain does half that shit
2. We pay a professional to record cause we’re not broke 9 year olds; and it looked like shit the one time we got a ‘manager’ to do it
A manager is pointless. Half of them don’t even have video/livestream experience, so… sorry your manager really is useless?
It varies from group to group of course, but sometimes the leader has their hands full simply wrangling a group of girls to do stuff. A Manager is nice for setting up panels and events at cons, being a separate party to manage financial stuff, and generally be an unbiased party who shouldn't give any special treatment to any member. And like mentioned before, if at an event, theres any chaos DURING the event, a manager is able to handle it without losing a dancer. Plus not to mention they help carry any equipment while the idols are in cosplay. optional stuff is if the manager is a professional photographer or videographer, but those are pretty rare. Even if its not a real manager, it is extremely helpful to have a person at practices or events who's not performing to help keep things on track and help with cleaning up dances.
From what it sounds, you're not the leader, so you probably don't see all the behind the scenes stress. Some leaders don't need or want a manager, some do because they don't have the time or patience to handle it all. Some group "founders" are not fit to be leaders, they just want to dance with people.
Are you trying to say sopop and start splash aren't dedicated? Sopop may be new but they can be just as dedicated as tanoshii, You have no idea. >>87977
their yoshiko isn't a minor but their ruby is and I've seen shit about her on here.
Shes in both soda-pop which itself is problematic
and kousei idols which not nearly as bad, but their leader is the reason this thread was even made so… nd I’m not sure how true this is but I’m gonna believe it since it came from actual as members, according to a member from SS they were even attempting/are attempting to scout her.
There are far milkier members in sps, tbh. I’m surprised no one is talking about Jen with how much she’s posted on here. The girl is just asking for it. There’s no actual tea on their ruby, people just don’t like her cause she’s in sps. >>87933
this is a weird thing to say. Why those specific groups? Yeah, they probably do have members posting on here but I can guarantee it’s more than just those 3 groups. You don’t think ss comes on here? Hhb? Neosenshi? Fuck, probably even prostar. I’m sure you’re probably in a group that’s not one of those three you listed. And we all know SPS comes on here more than those three groups combined. You’re an obvious vendetta poster. Hide your grudges better next time.
i agree about the jen part, alexis is also pretty milky as well.
thats why i dont understand why people have gone after their yoshiko repeatedly, and now their ruby?? (who is underage btw. plus yall keep going after tanoshii who are also majority underage) fom what it seems like their yoshiko has been vendetta posted on here several times but i havent seen or heard her do anything actually problematic
. like that post by someone that went to school with her is obviously vendetta and even debunked by people as lies.
if im honest here i think that jen and alexis are the ringleaders in all of this and manipulating the other members. we know for a fact that jen posts on here which made the whole situation worse, but from what I can tell the only other person who have posted is alexis
basically, sps leaders are horrible and the other members really havnt done anything except take the blame for stuff there leaders did out of their control
Can one truly call them a shit group? Think what you want about their appearances, but they haven’t even debuted so we haven’t seen them dance yet, which is the core of a /idol dance cover group/. They’re just problematic
cause of Jen, Caroline and Alexis. Also, you know, the furry rapist that joined for a day.
Kousei is extremely strict, on top of having a demerit system (that there’s not even really a way to gain points back) only a few members even like each other as friends and not as a business relationship. If you’re not good enough to immediately meet their standards they’ll cut you immediately, They have to look perfect, and will punish everyone in the group if even one person is out of line.
They’re extremely private about practices, not even let significant others in, probably due to how Mili treats everyone, She has a short temper and shit talks a bunch of idol groups, especially start splash. I’m so glad that I left.
Honestly I’d stay away from them.
Seconded. There’s already too much tinfoiling on this site and it really spiraled out of control with the sps/Caroline situations. On a website where anyone can say anything without repercussions, nothing is true until there’s proof. I miss the good ol days when people would actually post screenshots and prove their accusations here.
That being said, receipts or it didn’t happen >>88038
Not OP but honestly seeing how Kousei is covering their ass rn posting all about how they miss each other and love each other etc is kinda super suspicious to me, not only that, a member that left just now came back too..
I don’t know, it’s just the fact that almost every kousei member right now has posted on their story about missing each other all of a sudden, on the same day, after this was posted, is like saying “hey look that’s not true look at how good friends we are!!”. Then it gets pointed out that a kousei member leaves after each performance and they bring one back
I love kousei don’t get me wrong, and of course I’m probably gonna continue to support them.. but them posting all of this right after that like they’re trying to cover something up doesn’t look good!
forgot to say, it probably is vendetta posting with some truth to it but I can’t imagine that op would want to prove who they are by sending screenshots to prove their claims.
Only kousei themselves and people close to mili could debunk it right now (without op saying who they are) and honestly why would they say it’s true?
It’s just mili which is peak autism because people only talk about old milk from 1-2 years ago. It’s pointless to hate her unless there’s proof she’s actually still a piece of shit (notice how the anons at the beginning of the thread posted receipts? Woah.).
So, the ex kousei anon needs to prove their weak vendetta post and that mili is actually the spawn of satan or move on and quit bringing her up. She’s just as boring as ss is now. >>88075
Idc how they prove it, but plenty of other ex idols in the thread have verified their info.
I am agreeing with the strictness and the fact that they aren't all friends, but I don't think everyone in a group needs to be friends, they just need to be nice. No one has ever been cut for 'not meeting standards'.
I'm only replying because I feel the need to validate your points while also criticizing others. Kousei has had many many problems from the start, but I do feel like they have improved a bit since.
Kousei May be strict (idk), but def not to the point of kicking people out willy nilly like the anon-Chan claimed. They would’ve gone through way more members by now if that were true. Plus, they would’ve gotten rid of the bad dancers by now.
Also… members are able to leave if it’s too strict. If it’s so bad then why hasn’t every member left yet? A lot of them have other groups to fall back on. Smells like someone is lying or has an obv personal problem with them
22/7 is somewhat niche, it was very niche when Kousei started. Kousei may even be the first group to cover 22/7. Even one of the seiyuus know about it!
I don't know about you, but bad press on their group would make 22/7 look bad, and that's why I as an ex-member have not spoken out thus far. Any other group who would cover 22/7 (especially an ex member) would most likely be called out for copying, and who wants to deal with that shit?
Jens is @azirofushima
Alexis is @pidgegunderson1994
I know a few other members have tick tocks but I don’t remember their @ right this second
Yah I know him personally n i wouldn’t be surprised if we was hitting on members including the underage one(s?)
he hits on any female within his vicinity so long as they’re under 24 even better if theyre teenagers. i met him at a con when I was 15 (17 turning 18 now) n he hit on me several times when he first met me despite telling him several times how old i was. he kept saying he’s just jokjng so it’s fine and then kept bringing up underwear photoshoots
he still messages me and tells me like basically everything for no reason, like the sopop thing i don’t wanna be rude but it like he have no boundarys