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Danny Choo> king of the weebs, son of shoe mogul Jimmy Choo> raging narcissist with a victim complex> serial stalker of celebrities> owner of Smart Doll> "It's not a defective product, it's wabi sabi!"
Social media links> instagram = https://www.instagram.com/dannychoo> twitter = https://twitter.com/dannychoo> shop = https://shop.smartdoll.jp> blog = https://archive.dannychoo.com/en
Mirai Suenagahttps://archive.dannychoo.com/en/posts/mirai-suenaga?lang=en> generic OC donutsteel schoolgirl> Danny's mascot
Summary of choice antics posted on Reddit: https://www.reddit.com/r/HobbyDrama/comments/gsc4gc/anime_fashion_dolls_wabisabi_or_how_to_call/
Detailed summary about Smart Doll: https://nasilemaktech.com/comic-fiesta-smart-doll/
Danny is obsessed with Japanese schoolgirls and fap. Moved to Japan, started "Culture Japan" ironically misinterpreting Japanese culture for weebs abroad, on his blog.
Read about his history of stalking and marvel at his disturbing lack of self-awareness in his autobiography: https://archive.dannychoo.com/en/posts/how-discovering-japan-changed-my-life?lang=en
Danny loves anime tiddies. He used to be a Volks (hobby company) fanboy and used a Volks Dollfie Dream (anime tiddy doll) to make a custom doll of his OC Mirai. Toured the volks manufacturing plant, then asked Volks to make an official Dollfie Dream (DD) of Mirai. Volks said "No." Danny's ego was so damaged by the rejection that he cried to daddy Choo, and daddy Choo gave baby boy Danny $30 mil to make his own big tiddy anime dolls. Despite his own dolls being near-replicas of DD, if you even mention Volks in a tweet or comment Danny will perma-ban you from his shop (even if you've never bought anything from him).
Danny's doll company is Smart Doll. It was called Smart Doll because the dolls were originally little robo-doll smart phone accessories. Now they're just regular dolls because robotics were too difficult, apparently. He's done shitty things to fuel his ego like not crediting his doll sculptors, photographing himself in front of a workstation as if he's done all the work. After one of his sculptors rage-quit and exposed him on a public forum Danny now claims he's the designer, not the sculptor.
Danny uses his dolls to RP petty revenge fantasies against his "haters" (anyone who doesn't worship him) and fills the doll product pages with baffling rants that read like an alien trying to simulate a human experience. Here's one where says having to deal with customers is literally the same thing as being a victim
of the trans-Atlantic slave trade: https://shop.smartdoll.jp/products/smart-doll-courage
Danny doesn't want you to buy his shitty, overpriced dolls. In fact, he actively discourages it, because you're too much of a fucking idiot to be worthy of holding his OC waifus and any quality control issues or defects are YOUR fault, not his. Every time a customer receives an unsatisfactory product, Danny has a social media meltdown and adds another point to his disclaimer: https://info.smartdoll.jp/en/posts/before-you-buy
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Damn I remember this guy from like a decade ago when he had that blog. I always got creepy vibes from him. His website product descriptions are ridiculous though. Why would you want to buy from someone who thinks you're an idiot for it?
His prices are insane, too. I know these dolls are big money, but his seem wayyy higher.
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I pulled the stalking bits. It reminds me of a 4chan stalker-kun greentext I read a while back.https://archive.dannychoo.com/en/posts/kylie-minogue> Danni [Minogue]'s body guard would sometimes play games with us - he would stick Danni in the car and drive off at speed - we could get in our car and chase. The bodyguard would wait at the traffic lights when they where green and the drive through them when they were red thinking that we wouldn't follow - we followed all the time speeding through the oncoming cars from the left n right.https://archive.dannychoo.com/en/posts/how-discovering-japan-changed-my-life?lang=en#firstdestination> I liked Hikaru Nishida a lot - drew this of her and I standing in a streets with shops of Tokyo as I remembered it - its got bits of Akihabara and Shinjuku.> Meeting Hikaru was also another one of my dreams. While in Tokyo one year, I waited for Hikaru at the backstage entrance of Kousei Nenkin Hall in Shinjuku and managed to pass her some presents of Marylyn Monroe that she liked.> That night, I got a bunch of flowers and waited outside the hall for her concert to finish. I had rollerblades on and the plan was to chase after her car and catch her at a traffic light to hand her the flowers.> However, the guards at the hall didn't like the look of me and just before her car came out, 7 or so of them rushed and pinned me to the ground until her car was out of site.> After Hikaru's car was off and away, the guards left me in the middle of the road. I got up dizzy after being hit and kicked. The flowers still looked decent so I nabbed them and skated in the direction of Hikaru's car as fast as I could. Fate was on my side and her car was stuck at some traffic lights. She winded down the window with a sorry look and accepted my flowers. I don't think it was her decision to set the guards on me - or at least that's what I like to think.
Maybe she participates in equally degenerate weebshit. One of his blog posts says they met while working at a Benihana. Ironically, Danny calls Benihana an authentic Japanese restaurant in the same post kek. >>112788
She's also technically named after her dad's "business" since his oc's name comes from his business name. Two Chinese-British people having a baby with a Japanese name is peak weebery.
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sage for offtopic but reminds me of the JBox guy who uses an animu based on his daughter as his mascot
When was this post from? I didn't know he mentioned his kid on his site. I really
hope he's joking about calling his child Mirai in context of his big tiddy 15 year old anime character Mirai.
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The post was from April 2012. I agree it’s super creepy since he often labels cartoon Mirai as “forever 17”. Sorry for the weird crops I didn’t want to post his baby’s face.
This cringe fucker is Jimmy Choo's son? Suddenly all his money makes sense, I always thought he was a business man. You have to admit it must be fun to be an adult weeb with a trust fund>>112852
I'm really curious to know how that will affect her as an adult
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Off topic but that’s fucked up if true considering how he uses the mascot
his dad made the shoes for his crappy dolls so i think they're fine>>113243>What happened on his life to be like this?
He was born filthy rich to parents that gave him money instead of love. He's off the charts entitled like most rich kids, but not smart enough to hide it.
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I found the insta post about his Dad making the shoes. This was 2017 idk if something has happened since then
This is sad. I remember reading on his vlog that he had foster parents due to economic problems (if anyone cares I could try finding that part of his long ass self pity biography).
Thank god this place is anonymous, he is pretty evident at lurking and stalking. This is mostly important because he has banned customers from his shop and the email customer support.
If any of you are from that doll forum, watch your writing style. Although I don't know why anyone would like to do business with him when there's better dolls out there..
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He states his parents paid the families to look after him and he would go home on weekends. It's been speculated elsewhere that it was regular childcare and he's saying 'foster' for sympathy points.
>>113318>Although I don't know why anyone would like to do business with him
This is crazy to me, too. His doll heads aren't even compatible with other brands bodies.>>113327
From Jimmy Choo's Wiki:>After college, Choo worked at two design companies for a total of nine years before opening his own business. Choo's parents moved to Britain to help him get started, and he eventually expanded the business by opening his own shop in 1986, renting an old hospital building. His craftsmanship and designs were soon noticed at London Fashion Week in 1988. After seeing his creations, Vogue featured the shoes in an eight page spread.
It doesn't sound like his parents struggled much, or even his grandparents tbh since Jimmy attended college and started working for design companies right after. Danny was born in 1972. It sounds like it was normal childcare because his parents were working long hours, which would make sense if they owned a store. The way he describes his childhood being "school > go home > eat > TV > to go room" sounds like a basic af childhood.
The Hadid sisters also claim they did it all themselves. I think it's common amoung rich kids to make up a struggle so they don't have to admit they had it all handed to them.
>>112852> posted on April 1
I can't be 100% sure this child exists. Danny posts confusing and unfunny April fools jokes every year.
One theory is he PVs creative products on April 1 so when feedback is lukewarm or negative he can backpedal and claim it was all a (really expensive) joke. The products that get positive feedback go into production immediately, like his 3-eyed doll head.
Video was uploaded on April 1 and it was supposedly an April fools joke. It's confusing because he teased the project earlier as if it was a real project and hints to be going ahead with the project in the April fools blog post.https://archive.dannychoo.com/en/posts/chinka https://archive.dannychoo.com/en/posts/chinka-pv-april-fools
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I feel you anon. I feel like they are the same rotten garbage (like, come on, this dude is rich, and the fruit doesnt fall off very far from the tree), and while Jimmy Choos are legit beautiful, these dolls look like attrocious things and give me weird sex doll vibes. Like, comparing them to let's say a Pullip or another cute fashion doll vs those creepy as fuck japanese sex dolls that look young af, they look more like the latter.
His smart doll website also says "find out why they are smart ;)" with the ";)" emoji in them and I legit thought they were going to have a hole opening in them or something like that. Like, who actually buys these? These are not cute or fashionable. They look like weird mini humans. Yiiikees.
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These are so pretty, I could had never imagine this kind of story about the son of Jimmy Choo in my life. Thanks OP for the thread
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it's just an anime style doll like dollfie dream. the comparison to sex dolls is unnecessary and tryhard. Also kek at "weird mini humans".
I don't like smartdolls or shoe child but you sound like you never saw a doll beyond Pullip. Next you will be scared they come alive and kill you
Just want to touch upon something on the OP, I think Danny trying to be passive aggressive discouraging purchasing the product is quite recent. Not just the FAQ but all the disclaimers on each dolls page, I think some anons from 4chan noticed it when it changed. It was sometime this year.
This man is slowly losing his mind and one day he's going to have a bad freakout and it'll be funny as fuck to watch.>>113344
They're called Smart Dolls because they were intended to be robotic, so they could dance, but Danny is lazy as fuck. Can't even deliver the one promise he set out to make.
Best he got was a USB charger body.
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>>113357>the comparison to sex dolls is unnecessary and tryhard
lol. When I look at these dolls I think the target audience is not children, but adult men. It's obvious these dolls are meant to be sexually appealing to men and probably used for masturbatory purposes, even if they don't have a hole (yet).
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Most if not all (adult looking) BJDs have weird sexy bodies, its just another way to distinct them as super speshul adult collectibles than just toys.
Sure they can be used for spank bank but most people who spend thousands of dollars on these won't even dare to touch them with dirty hands.
ok, you really don't know shit about dolls. >>113427
are right. You can get literally any bjd with an attractive body even tho women make up most of the customer base. Even Tonner dolls (not bjd but close enough). It's not weird unless you make it (to be fair, stuff like the piggy bank tits is creepy and gross, but the dolls are nothing especially scandalous.
you're the one who sounds tryhard defending his dolls lol
For the record, dollfies are actually kinda cute
What even is the appeal of Smart Dolls? They're not as good quality as DDs and are more expensive as well. (DD Mirai is $473 whereas Smart Doll Mirai is $495)>>113469
What's with the prudish anon(s) in this thread looking at any doll and calling them sex dolls? Have you never seen a sex doll before?
To be honest with you I have no idea, no one in my comm has said anything about the quality. It just started one day with one lady saying "I got a Smart Doll!" And then suddenly everyone wanted to be included in the club.
I've yet to find a flaw with my DDs that I wouldn't expect from a Smart Doll so from my personal doll experience? I think people just want to be noticed by Danny Choo. My comm is close knit with the staff of another doll company so maybe it's the "we have friends in high places" bug.
I used to own one, from the One Piece collab. I stopped being a dollfag and sold all of my dolls because I found less boring hobbies. Plus the doll community is full of munchies. The appeal for me was just fancy character merch.
I didn't find Nami particularly shitty compared to my DDs but I know Toei is fussy so maybe that had something to do with quality control for that release. Would love to hear horror stories.
Danny himself is a narc and I didn't know about him naming his kid after his waifu. That's creepy as hell. I remember him having a serious health issue of some kind (tho munchieism is all the rage in the doll hobby so who knows if they are real) maybe the wife isn't worried about his creepy waifuism because she expects him to lose mobility or die soon.
People are just so used to sexualizing the female body they can't look at a slightly realistic doll without assuming the worst. Danny definitely initially aimed
for sexy in the design, especially as be used to have wayyy too many bust sizes available to choose from, but now his hopefully-not-really-called Mirai irl child is older, he's pretending these dolls have been for children the whole time.
But generally BJD are not a sex thing in the slightest, like if you wanna jizz on something why choose a 60cm piece of plastic that cost you $600 when you could just buy a full size sex doll for 1-2k. Like they are primarily collector items and people are just weird about dolls.
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okay but talking about stuff you dob't know shit about and sounding like an idiot ain't either.>>113491
apparently attractive, realistic body = hentai lmfao. I guess this male bjd body is also hentai tier to you? I am not a fan of big bust bjd but it's normal that you can get them. In my opinion the bodies are neutral. It depends on the owner if the doll ends up looking sexualized or not. You can stick your big tiddy anime doll in a sweater and jeans and she will look normal, and vice versa. The bodies are imitating human bodies. They are idealized obviously but since they are realistic, it's normal they have tits and even dick. Most adult collectors are mature enough to not get shocked at doll nudity lol.
The sexualization of the dolls by Choo himself is creepy as fuck, but it's a problem of framing the dolls and not the dolls itself.
That's the average fan tbh, have you seen the FB groups? Or the comments on his instagram?>>113464
How does your local wealthy mfs
perceive our underage-anime-titty god? Has anyone got a doll with a "birthmark"?
I want to know how long it takes for the first wrist to break off, if possible.
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>>113583>people are used to sexualizing the female body>they can't look at a slightly realistic doll without assuming the worst
kek listen to yourself. Plastic dolls are not real and do not look like real women lol
Look at this picture and tell me which ones are most resembled between each other.
There's a difference. I think this woman is attractive, but not sexualized. I understand and agree that collecting BJD isn't an inherently sexual hobby, but come on. There's many people who are indeed into dolls as something to masturbate with, more than you realize.
sage for dollsperg but
>dolls that are suposed to have silicone/padded bra boobs so they HOLD UP CLOTHES
>saggy post-breast feeding boobs
There's a practical reason dolls have bolt on tits, even barbies have silicone-looking breasts.
To make my point without shitting on the rando on the right, dolls are obviously idealized human forms, some people do actually have nice bodies and symmetrical faces. A nice body and face does not = instantly a sexual thing, since some people are just born that way.
The vinyl doll hobby definitely has more perverts than the resin side, due to softer material, onaholes and silicone boob options, but really very few people are out there fucking resin dolls (iplehouse on the left are resin) and still most vinyl doll owners also do not fuck their dolls, but there are definitely more dollfuckers on the vinyl side (gag). The anime figure collecting side of things does swing male and incel so it can be a problem.
But BJD aren't sexual simply because the bodies are symmetrical and well sculpted. Barbie probably has similar or worse proportions to the iple dolls (and was originally inspired by a sex doll) but again is 99.99999% little girls buying it and not perverts.
tl;dr ideal proportions does not = sex thing, but obviously people will fuck anything, and some dolls are
aimed at perverts, mostly on the vinyl and anime figure side, which obviously is what Danny chose and is now pretending was for children the whole time.
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>>113383>I think Danny trying to be passive aggressive discouraging purchasing the product is quite recent.
I think it kicked off in 2017 when Danny teased a 2B Nier Automata Smart Doll before he got approval or the IP license. Volks got the license to make Dollfie Dream 2B and 9S instead, kek. Waifu doll rejection again tied to Volks.https://www.flickr.com/photos/dannychoo/33343379251/
He likes making Smart Doll of his favorite animu waifus. He teases official chara dolls without licenses as if he's pushing the rights holder to give him permission to make the doll. "see look I already made a prototype. I did all this work it's only right you let me make the doll"
Danny's business practices are not congruent with Japanese business practices and he's driven away most of his Japanese consumer base. It's easy to assume that the companies who own the characters he wants to make dolls of are refusing because of his reputation in Japan.
the doll spergs are ruining this thread. It was actually fun until ya'll felt compelled to come in here and defend your creepy ass hobby.
I've seen the doll community in action twice, once on reddit and now here and all you guys do is fucking bitch, complain and fight. This being Danny Choo's hobby makes so much sense to me now. The entire community is fucking insufferable.
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I agree so hard with you anon. Every single BJD fan is a fucking self-centered freak and they defend their plastic doll way too much for my liking. Like, they defend them and treat them as if they were real people lol, the fact that Danny Choo treats his waifu as if she was the real deal is a common thing in that community. They're obsessive and creepy.>>113709>is this a self post?>I don't agree with you so this must be a self post?>no one likes seeing real nude women in their natural state without sexualizing them so I must continuing consooming my plastic idealized sexy ass dolls but call others out if they sexualize them cause they're totes not for pervs!!!! they're a real serious mentally stable adult hobby I swear!!!
Okay I know I'm the one you're replying to but I legit kek'd
Back to discussing Danny Choo though, this video is very cringe.
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I personally think the dolls are cute, but I didn't know about the dude behind it, ack
Is there any other doll similar to his, but Dollfie Dream? DD are cute, but I actually like the half-anime half-realistic face thing.
Maybe I'll just buy them second hand.
A lot of people opt for second-hand to avoid Danny. My theory is he has some copyright situation happening with Volks; maybe they told him he can continue to sell his similar dolls as long as he doesn't try and replace any of their product lines. Hence canceling accessory sales when it's for a DD or they don't own a Smartdoll.
I particularly like Tomorrow and Monday, but could never shell out that much for a doll personally.
Most bjd collectors including SmD owners are 30 - 50 year old women. Scrotes like Danny Choo are vastly outnumbered. Sorry you chose this hill to die on, anon.>>113754
I wish Volks would ditch resin and do all their regular sculpts in vinyl. There's Dollfie Icon, but the head is kinda derpy.
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BJD stuff aside, does anyone else remember all of Danny Choo's super insensitive posts regarding tsunamis and earthquakes? Pic related. >ugh there's a tsunami warning but I wanna play with my ps3 and I have figures otw!https://archive.dannychoo.com/en/posts/japan-tsunami
I remember he also had a post where he and his wife rushed back to Japan from HK after a natural disaster and his entire post was about the natural disaster was him complaining about how some of his figures fell and were damaged beyond repair. Other people lost their homes, livelihoods, families, and lives while this spoiled manchild was crying because his plastic anime girls got damaged.
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I can't find the post where he talks about him and his wife vacationing in HK prior to the natural disaster but here's another one of his posts focused on his poor figures after an earthquakehttps://archive.dannychoo.com/en/posts/post-earthquake-tokyo-damage
aww she's very cute, first one that doesn't look like a complete sex doll>>113757
NTA But I think lolcow has many normalfags always
Cry more your hobby you use as a personality is meant for children.>>113759
there's nothing more normie than playing with dolls you tard.>>113793
This is some creepy shit
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Danny posted his weekly scheduled rant about how special his business practices are and the customer is always wrong. https://www.instagram.com/p/CFkC2gWBkgh
His stans are mini-cows themselves.
Context for non-doll anons:> 'Milk' is one of the skin colors for his dolls.> Milk is popular because it matches rival Volks DD color and people could hybrid the doll parts together.> Smart Doll bodies started out being similar in price or a little cheaper than DD, and Danny sold an option part that connected DD heads to Smart Doll bodies, until Volks sent a C&D.> Now Smart Doll is way more expensive than DD and people want to put Smart Doll head on DD body because its cheaper by a couple hundred dollars.> Danny refuses to sell doll heads separate unless customer can prove they own one of his dolls already.> Danny sells his standard doll heads alone for close to $300, compare to DD standard heads at around $40.
Danny being petty and greedy.
I need to marry the red censored person.
Has Choochoo ever credited a design? Because if I have to belive all the shit he says, I must asume that the "employee's creativity" he refers to is… Performative assembling?
I love how he credits everything to himself, yet when he lurks
feels attacked, he has to paint himself as a hero.
I'm kinda sad the lincenced dolls are (apparently) canceled. More popular designs meant new buyers, and I was so hyped for bigger meltdowns.
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Danny is telling his stans to harass anyone who says they aren't satisfied with his product.
Context is he's selling blind box dolls for the same price as regular dolls (around 500 bucks). Customer complaints have included poor quality items and getting doubles of the same doll.
Doubles wouldn't be bad in a regular gatcha, but this is the guy who double-checks the order history of everyone who buys his shit to ensure their worthiness to give him the yens. He knows what dolls they already bought from him and the dolls aren't packed in blind boxes.
excuse double post.
The blind box Pebble is the only way for customers to get special dolls like blue skin or boys. Most customers appear to be getting unpopular dolls instead of the teased exclusives everyone is gambling on.
Is he using a reverse psychology as a marketing technique? It seems to be working if people are still buying his dolls.
The milk is rare but I still enjoy his antics
He promotes his products a lot. The whole "don't buy this" is elitism and exclusivity run through a cringe weeb filter. Like, he's so rich that he doesn't care if he lost a sale to a customer so he can tell them to fuck off and buy something else. Similar to designer brand stores where the staff will say if someone can't afford anything in the shop they should just leave. That makes people with the dolls also feel elite like the Smart Doll is a status symbol. Smart Doll is a Gucci or Coach purse.
It's also so when an unfortunate sap complains about a shoddy item Danny can turn around and say that he warned them not to buy it, so it's the customer's fault and he has no responsibility to make it right.
It's actually hilarious he made a $500 dollar item called pebble with a picture of a pebble, and people are buying it and calling it "my pebble" in the comments of that video.
Please Danny, send someone an actual pebble, I dare you.
Just use the BJD thread over here >>>/snow/18928
Necroing is only an issue if you aren't bringing fresh content so it's not a problem to wake up a sleeping thread, the last post there was only a month ago anyway
The mods can move it to /w/ if it becomes active again.
Danny officially made it to the big league by having his product bootlegged, kek
this site popped up in facebook advertisements this week. So far no comment on it from the man himself.
a few people in doll discussion groups made purchases to see what kind of shitty knockoff gets sent. I'll update if they receive anything and post pics.
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Danny decided that buying 2 dolls from him ($1000+) is no longer a sufficient display of brand loyalty to qualify for buying his overpriced gatcha (~$500 a pop). Now you must buy 5 dolls ($2500+) to qualify for the privilege of purchasing a gatcha doll.> gatcha is the only way to get certain desirable dolls that are not released for sale
Needless to say, some people were upset about this bullshit change in policy and expressed their disappointment in the FB groups and on social media. His stans harassed them and posts were quickly deleted.
Smart Dolls are luxury items and most people have to save up months and months to afford one basic doll. Danny thinks if you don't have enough wealth to drop $500-$1000 on an impulse purchase that means you are a poor person and you should buy food for your family instead because he doesn't want dirty hobos touching his painfully generic big tiddy waifus. https://info.smartdoll.jp/en/posts/smart-doll-buyers-guide
Pic is Danny's response to the "haters" hating on his 5 doll minimum purchase policy.
This guy is a genius. I’m sure half of the marketing major graduates wouldn’t dream of pulling off this scheme. It’s so stupid it’s brilliant
Tbh I wish I were in bud community because this cow has potential to become my new favourite scenecow.
Updates are very much appreciated!!
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Here are the 2021 April Fools ""joke"" posts.
>>143707>eye fitting device
Did he just make an overly designed and expensive clone of a Volks product? https://www.dollmoon.com/dollfie-dream-fitter/
Oh wait… that describes everything in his shop.
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Someone asked for a shipping update and having to provide customer service triggered
Danny (because as we know from OP providing customer service is literal slavery)
If you email to ask when your $500+ order is expected to ship you will be punished for your transgression> https://www.instagram.com/p/CNRF_VWBDGk/
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Folks report being charged multiple times when they place an order through the Smart Doll website. Instead of looking into technical problems Danny calls them scammers and bans them from his shop
I like how along with shitting on all his past BJD collector customers by setting up the smartdoll website as a product for children (as if it has always been this way) he has now extended the shipping time (that's two weeks to dispatch
not arrive) when short shipping times was one of the things he did right.
The resentment really comes out in that last paragraph about the shitty bra top maybe being a different color in future orders.
I don't really get why he bothers trying to have at big company when he doesn't understand the basics of customer service, let alone what would be expected from a "luxury" or niche market.
If he wanted to be a piss baby about everything, he should have thought about keeping it on a very small hobby scale.
Like that chick that makes custom porcelain dolls. When you're doing something much more specific and artisan, then you can be expected to not really give a fuck.
I wonder if the kid rebranding has to do with his family thinking it's weird to sell dolls to adults?
Raising spoiled kids like this is how you get Danny.
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No-one posted about the bacteria yet?
Last year there was dolls with bright pink spots in the plastic. The pink marks are made by bacteria. The mods in smartdoll groups defend the spots saying its not a flaw of quality control. How??
Because of previous typhoon, smartdoll shop was flooded. The pink marks appeared on dolls purchased directly after. Have dolls been in dirty typhoon water and sold to customers? Of course smartdoll did not accept any fault.
Jesus, I've noticed this with playline vinyl doll heads. Depending on how they were stored before you purchased them, I have had to throw away two cheap playline dolls due to a black spot appearing in their vinyl (my home is always temperate without any damp or mould issues)
For $500 dolls to have this issue is terrible and imo it can't be fixed, like good luck getting mould out of the inside of any porous surface. I will assume no replacements from camp Danny for those.