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No. 2672
>>2671Of course sluts 'exist'. the issue is whether or not that's an inherently bad thing.
IMO promiscuity is what defines someone as a slut, so dressing slutty and acting flirty don't qualify.
Don't think I can name any specific numbers, though. I tend to only count it as promiscuity if it's unsafe/reckless sex, so if you've had ten fwb over the years, for example, you wouldn't be a slut in my books. Most people tend to disagree.
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A woman engaging in casual sex of any form, in other words having any kind of sex outside of a long-term relationship, makes her a slut.
Men cannot be sluts and if you haven't realized why you're stupid. For men to promiscuously sleep with women they have to achieve a high status, they need a combination of money, good looks, good genetics, and personality. It is a difficult achievement for men to have casual sex.
Women on the other hand can simply just choose which man to have sex with. It doesn't matter if they have no money, it doesn't matter if they're ugly, it doesn't matter if they've never contributed to society in anyway.
Not only could an ugly broke disease-ridden drug-addicted female have sex with average men, she could actually charge men money just to have sex with her.
There's a reason 99% of prostitutes are female, and even the male prostitutes that do exist almost only have clients that are gay males.
No. 2678
>>184392>I can't think of any reasons why people shouldn't have as much sex as they wantWhen women are sluts they become unsuitable as mothers or wives, no man wants to start a family with them, the effects of this on society are serious and complex, more complex than I can articulate in a post.
The future of human civilization is at stake, the future itself is largely decided by who women choose to have sex with. Women collectively making bad sexual decisions can actually lead to the destruction of civilization, they have already destroyed the concept of "family".
No. 2681
>>2680When I say the future I'm basically just talking about something that's already happening right now coming to it's final phases. The current state of western civilization is already seeing such extreme levels of broken families and degeneracy.
This is largely caused by women being sluts, it destroys the institutions of family and marriage, and therefor destroys civilization itself.
Women aren't smart enough to see or understand things like this, so it's not really their fault they act the way they do. It is men for allowing women to break the religious/cultural/legal laws and stigmas that prevented women from acting like this, they were in place since ancient times to keep civilization running, not just to pointlessly "oppress" women, they are for women's own good.
No. 2686
Of course sluts exist, they're those who use sex like a recreational activity, instead of something used to bond in an intimate setting with those that they wish to - there's a big difference. It shows a lack of self respect or control when people go out of their way to have more than one partner per month, though I think anyone who has had more than one partner per year since 16 could be considered a slut - just my personal feelings. It depends on why, more than anything though.
I was married a virgin, as was he, but I do tell others to explore their sexuality "in other ways," if they want to stay virgins till marriage - (not anal, I mean foreplay, intimate touching at night, talking about what kind of sexual relationship you envision for yourselves, etc to get to know your partner on a sexual level, as to avoid not having the issue of lack of sexual bond,) but I really don't think it's that big of a deal to stay a virgin till marriage unless you really want to for personal reasons. I think the pressure of "virtue," can also drive people into consuming sex like it's a foodstuff.
Though people who are "proud sluts," are very few and far between. I find that it's the same 5 girls at this college who are passed around, and someday I'd like to ask, "why?" They seemingly think that they are the ones using the men, "oh, we're getting back at them for objectifying us, now let's use them in the same manner, they'll cry and get hurt!" but this never happens, instead the men are overjoyed to have "easy playthings." I really question if these "proud sluts," know that they're just working into the "patriarchy," they hate so much – they're making these men very, very happy.
No. 2688
Hi, OP here. I swear i wasn't baiting when i made this thread, i knew some would share stupid opinions/bait but really there's no other imageboard around where most users are female, as far as im aware, so this was the only place I could ask. Just ignore them.
Seriously, what bothers me the most is that, like I previously explained, some women that hang out with me say there's no such thing as a slut yadda, yadda and then BAM, criticize other women and slander them calling them hoes and sluts because they're no virginal saints. That's really fucked up imo, and that makes me wonder if most people are this way too, since MOST women nowadays say that you should be proud of being a "slut" and that you're not being promiscuous, just sexually free or whatever and that there's really no boundaries expect the ones you set for yourself. How can people say that and shit on other people when they express their sexuality with multiple partners then?
I'm not a saint myself, I'm sexually active (not currently active but I've had 1 sexual partner), but since I have friends from many circles, I hear the craziest stories and hear people shitting on others all the time too.
Do I personally think a woman is a slut if she has, let's say, 10 sexual partners in a year? Not exactly, i guess it depends on many things. But I heard friends say that a girl was major slut for that, kek. Idk, man. Idk. Just legitimate curious.
I wasn't asking what men think, what men want or anything like that, I already know what men want/expect because they share their fucking opinion on sluts everywhere.
Anyway,
Thanks everyone who commented.
No. 2690
>>2689Why do you think these posts (>>184385,
>>2681) are "bait"?
There's no reason to think that. Are you just that upset and can't think of anything to say back so you call it "bait"?
No. 2691
>>2690It's because I am naive enough to still have faith in the human race
>Are you just that upset and can't think of anything to say back so you call it "bait"?Not upset, just astonished such backwards thinking still exists nowadays kek
No. 2693
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>the mere fact that you guys are replying to "obivious bait" or what ever only shows that what he's saying is getting to you to some extent
regardless I always hate he implication that people saying a person can have lots of sex and it'll have no repercussion what so ever
I mean I'm waiting until marriage but I get it that other people do it differently
No. 2694
>>2693>>regardless I always hate he implication that people saying a person can have lots of sex and it'll have no repercussion what so eversame anon, if you wanna have tons of sex with strangers or people you barely know or whatever, at least dont pretend you dont fucking know you are at more risks than people who dont, like STDs, or an unwanted pregnancy (not saying that unwanted pregnancies dont happen if you have a partner, etc. they do. its just the chances are higher for obvious reasons).
or that society wont treat you like shit sometimes. people will. its life, its unfair probably, but thats how it is. maybe someday in 20-30 years people just wont care anymore, but they still do today, for the most part, regardless of assuming it or not.
i dont really agree with the pic you posted but yeah, i do agree with you to an extent.
No. 2702
>>2699So? People make judgements based on appearance, more news at 8.
People assume I'm homeless whenever I come home from work because I work as a cleaner, and in work most patrons assume I don't speak much English. You can either learn to deal with it or spend the rest of your life trying to change other people's opinions. It's part of the risk you took on when you accepted the job.
I'm well educated and dress well in my spare time but I came from a poor country so I hadn't much of a choice when it came to choosing my career abroad. I also get treated like shit as soon as people find out where I'm from because my country has a bit of an image (but I'm white so nobody stands up for me).
At least you had the luxury of choice. If you want to change how others perceive you, make an effort to look different and don't tell anyone where you used to work. Ezpz.
No. 2705
>>2704>>2703Romania actually. We get treated 10x worse because we're 1) Eastern European 2) 'Gypsies' (many people are too thick to get that Romani=/=Romanian).
>inb4 not whiteI'm ginger, moving on
No. 2708
>>2707>you said you are a virginI'm not the stripper anon, I just responded to her
Idk, they're a mixed bag like everywhere else. You have city boys who are like most other European men, except odds are they probably won't know how to do any chores around the house or dress themselves properly. The more rural they are the more they treat you like a piece of furniture that also cooks, cleans and occasionally pops out kids. Odds are they'll probably get a wife because 'it's what you do' and court her until marriage, then just leave her to keep house while they go about their business and ignore her.
If it helps, most girls from my country who go to America and date guys there say they're incredibly patriarchal and will talk over you, brag about their job and income to get in your pants, take your achievements as their own, expect you to become a housewife and quit your job as soon as you get pregnant, which Romanian guys often don't do (and women don't let them) unless they're turbo hicks.
No. 2711
>>2708>brag about their job and income to get in your pants,They need to brag about money because that's all women care about.
>expect you to become a housewife and quit your job as soon as you get pregnantOh god how oppressive. He expects you to not work while he does to take care of all your financial needs? How horrible, the damn patriarchy is oppressing us so much.
If this was a guy not working and his wife made all the money, you certainly wouldn't be claiming he's oppressed by it, you would be calling him a worthless piece of shit.
(Inb4 circlejerk about how housework is "so hard" for your monkey brains, or saying that housework is the same as having a real job, it's not, it takes at most 2 hours out of your day and you can do it whenever you want)
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>>2711
>If this was a guy not working and his wife made all the money, you certainly wouldn't be claiming he's oppressed by it, you would be calling him a worthless piece of shit.Actually I'd call him a house husband, which is a nice idea
Coming home to him making food and wearing nothing but an apron, DELICIOUS
No. 2719
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>ywn be a stay at home husband you takes care of the house and home while your wife is working
I didn't need this feel
No. 2720
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>>2716Virgin here but nice try robot
>>2711>you certainly wouldn't be claiming he's oppressed by it, you would be calling him a worthless piece of shit.Kek anon get your head out of your ass, this is the 21st century we're talking about. No one cares about gender roles anymore, retard.
Also, about the housewife thing.
No one should
expect someone to stay at home like a vegetable doing nothing but cleaning windows and sweeping floors while having no financial independence of their own, be it a man or a woman.
It's a matter of choice, not of forcing your significant other to do something.
Whew this thread sure lures in a bunch of incels. Go back to Red Pill and r9k lmao.
No. 2721
>>2720>No one should expect someone to stay at home like a vegetable doing nothing but cleaning windows and sweeping floors while having no financial independence of their own, be it a man or a woman. You think being a housewife means staying at home "like a vegetable"? You think of it as an "oppressed" position?
This is one reason why women/marriage/family has been ruined in western countries, you've actually been tricked into thinking that the most respectable and redeeming position a woman can have in society, being a good mother and wife, is "oppressive".
No. 2722
>>2720> No one cares about gender roles anymore, retard.Women certainly do, they defend the ones that benefit them while bashing the ones they feel don't.
That's why men will gladly date women with no money, and in fact successful men even prefer women with no money/job, but women will never date a guy with no money or good financial outlook. In general almost all women won't date men acting too far outside masculine gender roles, if they're not seen as financially secure strong protective figures women don't like them.
Women say one thing but then do another, as usual. They say "I don't like gender roles", but then fuck Chad Moneybags, and make fun of men who don't follow masculine gender roles well enough, like you just did: "a bunch of incels. Go back to Red Pill and r9k lmao"
No. 2724
>>2723one could argue about it being the same case for men
but yet it never seems to be considered
No. 2726
>>2725>and he doesn't care Does he even know? I mean have you fully explained to him in detail your entire sexual past? You probably haven't, and I'm 1000% sure he's not okay with it, even if he says he doesn't care and still stays with you.
Doesn't matter anyway, the relationship will fail soon and you'll move onto the next guy in no time. You're permanently ruined in this regard and this will be a cycle for your whole life.
No. 2727
>>2726>I mean have you fully explained to him in detail your entire sexual past? Yeah, we've had the retarded "hurr let's talk about our awkward and lulzy past relationships" discussion.
Bf isn't insecure and doesn't view my sexual relationships that I had with people in college thousands of miles away as a threat to our current relationship. Why should he?
Poor bitter robotosan :'(
No. 2728
>>2725He doesn't think they're "awkward and lulzy XD".
He thinks they're disgusting, and inside he really does care, even if he says he doesn't care and still stays with you
No. 2729
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>>2728>and inside he really does careHaha stop. If it bothered him then at this point it would be on him entirely for living with me for three years and never saying shit about it.
You sound like a girlfriendless virgin who has no idea how relationships actually work.
No. 2730
>>2725>living with me for three years and never saying shit about it. Don't underestimate what men will do for steady sexual access.
You probably haven't fully told of him your past sexual experiences, like how you "only" fucked the 10 different guys you dated in high school, or how you fucked random frat guys for weed.
If you have really disclosed all this to him, people make compromises, and that's what he's doing. I can 2000% guarantee that on the inside he really dislikes that, and he's afraid that you'll revert to your old behavior, which you probably have already while dating him.
You're simply incapable of remaining monogamous, guys don't _want_ girls with past sexual histories like yours, because you have an incredibly high chance of cheating or just being another failed relationship, you have disgusting jaded views on sex/relationships from all the past men you've fucked and the past relationships.
No. 2731
>>2730why am I being ignored with the points I'm trying to make
y'all only seem to be replying to bait
No. 2732
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>>2730>you're incapable of being monogamous>e-e-even if you've been with the same guy and been living with him for the past three years you bakakaaaaaaKek. Tell me more about how you hate people who you feel don't deserve romantic relationships because of their sexual past, anon. You sound miserable.
No. 2734
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>>2733Exactly 0.
Take that, virgin. Neener neener neenarino~
No. 2736
>>2735My new tune.
Anyway, why can't anon's bf just be someone who doesn't care about her sexual past? If you ask me if he's at a higher risk of getting cheated on, then I'm going to say yes due to anon's past. Fucking random guys for weed is pretty low and maybe she's going to reach a certain point in her life where she may want something and will decide to fuck some other guy for it. She may have changed but yeah, her past isn't pretty. Not every guy ever cares about it though.
I think that a man with a long list of exes and sexual partners​ is more inclined to ignore it than a guy who has little experience, if any.
I think most men obviously do want a woman with a clean past, who's had 2-3 sexual partners at most – at least if they are serious about her.
Men have thought this way since our forefathers and will probably think like this, even if they don't admit it right away because we're more empowered nowadays. But if said guys don't have a clean past themselves they can fuck off (also, if he looks like a gross hambeast/skelly without any hygiene and aspirations, work on yourself first).
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>>2735>knowing about tismANON
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No. 2742
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>>2722> make fun of men who don't follow masculine gender roles well enough, like you just did: "a bunch of incels. Go back to Red Pill and r9k lmao"If thinking that that's the reason why I told you to go back to the cave you came from helps you sleep at night then whatever floats your boat pal lol.
>You think being a housewife means staying at home "like a vegetable"? Doing chores the whole day doesn't seem like my kind of pastime.
Being a housewife means being homebound and dependent of your partner's wealth.
> you've actually been tricked into thinking that the most respectable and redeeming position a woman can have in society, being a good mother and wife, is "oppressive".I never said that it's always oppressive. If you chose to do that then go ahead, sure, none of my business. Nonetheless, if you're
made to do that then yeah, it's pretty much oppressive, that's kinda what that word means, ya know.
>>2724> yet it never seems to be consideredI covered the subject in
>>2720How insecure are you if you keep trying to be the victim?
Bottom line is that y'all gotta go outside more, you have no idea how women work.
No. 2744
>>2722>and in fact successful men even prefer women with no money/jobAnyone normal wants a partner who contributes to society. Holy shit you sound like a loser.
>and make fun of men who don't follow masculine gender roles well enough, like you just didThat insecurity projecting. Go play dressup in your girly clothes and have mummy toast you chicken tendies cuz ur too lazy to cook a decent meal. I'm actually laughing at you
No. 2750
>>2744>Anyone normal wants a partner who contributes to society.You mean any normal female.
A successful man already has all the money he needs, he does not want his girlfriend/wife to work all day, then come home tired and bitchy. That is time that she could have spent doing things he would rather have her be doing.
You can't understand the mindset of a successful man, you have at least 10x less testosterone than them, you have about 20% less neurons in your brain than them. You obviously can't understand how they think compared to women.
No. 2754
>>2750>he does not want his girlfriend/wife to work all dayt. Someone who's never been around successful men.
Lmao. You talk like you know it all because you read some broscience about testosterone. Oh wow. A successful man isn't going to give a fuck if his wife works or not.
She chooses not to work? Fine, nothing lost.
She chooses to work? It's only extra income to gain and something that his otherwise bored housewife gets to do.
Anything domestic that needs to be done can be taken care of by hired help like nannies and cleaning ladies and landscapers.
And no, no rich man wants a LOSER for a wife.
No. 2758
>>2754>Anything domestic that needs to be done can be taken care of by hired help like nannies Why would a man want his children raised by nannies instead of their mother? Why don't you want to raise your children? You make it sound like no big deal too, it really says a lot about your point of view.
>And no, no rich man wants a LOSER for a wife.When women don't work and have no money, they aren't losers, especially if they're a wife/mother.
No. 2992
Lol at these incels stammering about how "bu-but women should be THANKFUL to stay at home on chad's dime!"
It's not about the fucking housework, like
>>2723 says it's about whether you have a choice.
A relationship should be fair. A house-spouse and a breadwinner arrangement can be fair if it's agreed on and so can a fair split between the two, but neither should be 100% financially dependent on the other. the house-spouse needs to have some kind of financial autonomy themselves even if it's just a little cash from online sales, and some kind of personal direction purely for themselves.
An allowance from the bread winner isn't independence, no matter how big the allowance is.
I would never date a man that thought I was lesser for having past sexual experience, or didn't want to see me succeed in my own career path. I don't care how many girls he's been with either, but he's sure as hell got to be his own independent person too. Sure, more compromise happens in the first 3 years of having a kid but that's out of practicality.
No. 4392
For me "sluts" are men or women who will do morally reprehensible things involving sex, i.e. chasing or begging people who are married/in relationships, or using sex to get promoted at work. Sex in a direct business transaction (porn, prostitution, etc) doesn't count in this, as I think that's a whole different ballgame and therefore should have its own scoring system.
People who have lots of casual sex, or have many relationships, aren't "sluts" because it's not morally reprehensible for 2 consenting adults to choose to have casual sex, or have sex before being married. That's a personal choice, and it doesn't affect anyone else.
Special caveat for people who sleep around and never use condoms as well. Like, seriously? Way to be irresponsible.