/sty/ - pigsty

don't these aggressive mental masturbation sessions ever get exhausting for you lot?

wow, you're fucking retarded. divorce rates are soaring because people have devalued marriage and are too immature to get married. i'm as lefty as they come and i am very traditional, like you describe, but i'd rather drown myself in dog shit than listen to your inane prattle. keep repelling women that would otherwise be receptive to you/be interested in you, dumbshit.

get on some SNRIs and stop blaming everyone else for your made up problems.

>>2648
>keep repelling women that would otherwise be receptive to you/be interested in you

They don't exist because I'm a NEET with no financial stability to offer.

I'm okay with that too it's understandable, I would get a job and try to succeed so women would find me suitable, but there's no point because even if I did, I don't want to marry or have children with them because:

- They could cheat on me and face no punishment for it whatsoever
- They could just divorce me and take my kids and half my money, i.e. ruin my entire life.

Until these two issues are fixed why should I even try? All I want is to start a family but feminism has destroyed that possibility. Can you not see why I'm so mad?

>get on some SNRIs

Taking harmful mind-altering drugs wouldn't solve anything.

Can't tell if serious or Poe's.

>I want a wife, I want laws in place that will severely punish her if she cheats, and I want to assure that she doesn't get custody of my children or a single cent of my money if she wants a divorce.

More men than women cheat, so that should go both ways.And severely punish how? Stoning to death?

>I'm a NEET because my only motivation to work would be if I could achieve this, I have no reason to contribute to society.

This is the problem with western men. There is no excuse for being a NEET you fucking pathetic leach. I can already tell you have a meek, socially awkward attitude that is woman repellent. Nobody respects a pussy.

>I'm not alone in this, countless other men won't get married or have children for similar reasons

Yeah more and more western men are becoming like you thanks to porn and videogames making them socially awkward and introverted. That personality is not attractive to women and never will be.

>>2652
>And severely punish how? Stoning to death?

If they were stoned to death they would deserve it, but a few years in prison is a more realistic punishment to be implemented.

>There is no excuse for being a NEET you fucking pathetic leach.

I don't owe you anything. Please explain to me why you're so hostile over me being a NEET? Really think about it and tell me why.

Unless someone fixes the marriage laws that feminism ruined I have no reason to contribute to society, it can continue to degenerate and I'll be glad to see it go along with the feminists that helped ruin it.

> I can already tell you have a meek, socially awkward attitude that is woman repellent. Nobody respects a pussy.

I have more muscle mass than 99% of men, you have no clue what I look like or act like.

>Yeah more and more western men are becoming like you thanks to porn and videogames making them socially awkward and introverted.

It's not the porn and videogame's fault, it's just that the reward Vs. cost ratio of contributing to society for most men is now really bad, largely thanks to feminism.

Try to put yourself in the shoes of an average looking or worse male (80% of men are average looking or worse to women), for a large portion of these men they just simply don't have the motivation to work hard to eventually make a decent living, so they can then get to choose from some arrogant feminist cunt (like almost all women are now) that has had many past sexual partners, failed relationships, possibly is a single mom, and is basically just a used up stupid whore with jaded disgusting views on sex/relationships.

Women are extremely good at following the group, they all go through the same schooling system, and consume the same media/propaganda, they're not smart enough to think outside the box, so 99% of western women end up being interchangeable dumb whores, ruined by feminist/liberal ideologies.

This is the reward that awaits men if they do work, and guess what? She can then cheat on you and face no punishment for it, and then in the divorce she will get custody of your children and half your money.

You stupid whore, of course they're just going to play video games and masturbate to porn in their parent's house instead.

>>2645

Reading this type of comments gives me hope in humanity, because this dude has chosen not to breed. That's wonderful. Incels should never have children. Dude you're a hero.

>>2654
I could rape women and chances are at least some of them will get pregnant and carry my spawn to term.

I just said I wasn't going to marry a woman under these circumstances, I'm still going to breed.

>>2653
You deserve to be cheated on and or left if you can't satisfy your partner. If she has to look elsewhere then you're the problem. Of course women get the kids in the divorce men don't have the ability to raise kids on their own especially young ones.

> I have more muscle mass than 99% of men, you have no clue what I look like or act like.

Lol sure you do. I am suppose to believe you have the dedication to lift and take care of yourself but can't hold down a job. The way you act now is so insecure and pathetic its probably much worse in real life.

> Please explain to me why you're so hostile over me being a NEET? Really think about it and tell me why.

Because you are just as bad as women who have 4 bastards from different fathers to collect benefits and fat people who stuff their faces to the point of immobility.

> Try to put yourself in the shoes of an average looking or worse male (80% of men are average looking or worse to women), for a large portion of these men they just simply don't have the motivation to work hard to eventually make a decent living, so they can then get to choose from some arrogant feminist cunt (like almost all women are now) that has had many past sexual partners, failed relationships, possibly is a single mom, and is basically just a used up stupid whore with jaded disgusting views on sex/relationships.

Men don't have to be good looking to find a partner, literally all you have to do is have good hygiene and not be a fat ass. That's not hard. And why exactly is the only reason to not be a loser and have a career to get laid? You're so fucking desperate for pussy women can smell that shit a mile away. If you choose to get with a whorish single mom then that's your own fault. Its not like the majority of women are single mothers. If you are trying to meet women at places like bars and clubs then no shit sluts are all you are going to find.

>Women are extremely good at following the group, they all go through the same schooling system, and consume the same media/propaganda, they're not smart enough to think outside the box, so 99% of western women end up being interchangeable dumb whores, ruined by feminist/liberal ideologies.

Ah yes, the women getting an education and careers are the dumb ones, not the NEET living in his mother's basement. So being a loser leaching off your poor family is thinking outside the box, No. You are just a failure at life and a burden, consider suicide.

>You stupid whore, of course they're just going to play video games and masturbate to porn in their parent's house instead.

Wow I guess I upset you with the truth. Just keep on being a loser, I am sure you are so much happier than married men with children, wealth and loving wives that don't exist. They're just brainwashed wage slaves, right babe?

>>2655
Its not that you don't want to get married, its that no woman would ever want to marry you. Keep lying to yourself to convince you that you are in control of your situation though.

>>2656
>You deserve to be cheated on and or left if you can't satisfy your partner.

This is what you fucking women do, you cheat and then actually try to make it sound like the guy you cheated on is the bad guy. There's a place in hell for these women.

>I am sure you are so much happier than married men with children,

I'm much happier than men who had this but lost it in a divorce, along with their kids and half their money. Which is statistically most likely if you marry a women in a western country, it even happens to the richest highest status men.

>I am suppose to believe you have the dedication to lift and take care of yourself but can't hold down a job.

I lift weights almost everyday and eat healthy, getting a job is just pointless, tell me why I should get a job? What motivation do I have to get a job? I won't get a wife under reasonable circumstances even if I do. My mom doesn't even want me to move out anyway.

>literally all you have to do is have good hygiene and not be a fat ass.

You mean have money, I agree that men don't have to be good looking to get married, but they do need money, and you're leaving this out because you don't want to admit women are technically whores.

>Ah yes, the women getting an education and careers are the dumb ones

They actually come out of college dumber than when they came in, it's amazing.

>>2657
>Its not that you don't want to get married, its that no woman would ever want to marry you

It's both.

If I made stable income I could easily have women that want to marry me, but what's the point with the current state of women and marriage laws?

>>2658
> This is what you fucking women do, you cheat and then actually try to make it sound like the guy you cheated on is the bad guy. There's a place in hell for these women.

I've never cheated and don't know any women who have so its really not common. Have you ever even had sex before? And what do you think of men who cheat on their partner, thats okay tho amirite. Cheating is still wrong but you have it coming if you aren't able to satisfy your partner. I wouldn't say hes the bad guy in the situation but if he was a better lover why would she try to get the dick elsewhere?

> I'm much happier than men who had this but lost it in a divorce, along with their kids and half their money. Which is statistically most likely if you marry a women in a western country, it even happens to the richest highest status men.

The rate of divorce is around 40-50% and about that number of men are garbage. The ones who are worthy of love and respect don't end up divorced.

>getting a job is just pointless, tell me why I should get a job? What motivation do I have to get a job? I won't get a wife under reasonable circumstances even if I do. My mom doesn't even want me to move out anyway.

Again like why is it that the only reason you would want to be independent and productive is if you could get married under your desired circumstances. That way of thinking is so beta. You should want to be independent because that is a masculine trait, relying on mommy to take care of you is childish.

>You mean have money, I agree that men don't have to be good looking to get married, but they do need money, and you're leaving this out because you don't want to admit women are technically whores.

You don't have to be rich by any means. A guy that is just able to provide for a family is considered attractive because that's biology. You can cry all you want about how that makes women whores but that's like fat feminists complaining that men should find fat hairy bodies attractive or else they're all shitcunts. Its also more than money, your personality is just as if not more important than your status. You can be filthy rich but if you act like a faggot then you're going to get taken advantage for your money.

>They actually come out of college dumber than when they came in, it's amazing.

Maybe those who study liberal arts or bs like that do.

>>2661
>Cheating is still wrong but you have it coming if you aren't able to satisfy your partner. I wouldn't say hes the bad guy in the situation but if he was a better lover why would she try to get the dick elsewhere?

A spouse should fulfill the sexual desires of their spouse, but again, there's a special place in hell for women that cheat and then make it sound like it's the guys fault. These women take no accountability for anything they do. There's no excuse for cheating ever, the fact that women actually think stuff like "if he don't treat me exactly right of course I'm gonna cheat and it's all his fault" is proving my point.

>Again like why is it that the only reason you would want to be independent and productive is if you could get married under your desired circumstances.

I'm perfectly happy except that I can't have a wife/children like this. There is no other reason I would want to work. You can't understand this because you're female.

>You should want to be independent because that is a masculine trait, relying on mommy to take care of you is childish.

Masculinity comes in many forms, being a NEET in today's society can be masculine.

>You can be filthy rich but if you act like a faggot then you're going to get taken advantage for your money.

This is the same for all men, even if the ones with "great personalities". Those guys with "great personalities" and looks would still be worthless to women if they had no money, at least in regards to long-term relationships.

Any man on Earth who thinks his girlfriend/wife would be okay if he suddenly became a NEET is lying to himself.

I don't care about this, I would work if I could just get a wife that was guaranteed not to cheat or divorce (or at least assure that she gets nothing in the divorce).

>>2652
>More men than women cheat
Not really.

>>2655
>I could rape women
You can't even talk to women without spaghetting.

Funny how our "masculine" NEET-kun doesn't address men who cheat on women. What should their punishment be?

>>2650
>Taking harmful mind-altering drugs wouldn't solve anything.
it might make you self-aware. if you don't care about anything but having a family (with a woman/women you ostensibly don't give a fuck about), you need psychological/psychiatric help

>They don't exist because I'm a NEET with no financial stability to offer.
i'm in a relationship with a neet and am neet. i know (comparatively cool – guys that don't spend their days pointlessly tilting at windmills) robots with girlfriends who absolutely adored them and were neet, but sure, blame the fact that your personality is noxious on everyone else


>They could cheat on me and face no punishment for it whatsoever
- They could just divorce me and take my kids and half my money, i.e. ruin my entire life.
god, you people are stupid. do you even do any research, at all? a lifestyle clause can deter this kind of behavior and you can determine, in the clause, how to divide assets if infidelity ever came up

>Until these two issues are fixed why should I even try? All I want is to start a family but feminism has destroyed that possibility. Can you not see why I'm so mad?
don't have kids. you're incapable of thinking critically and i've taken shits with more brain power.

>>2667
>god, you people are stupid. do you even do any research, at all? a lifestyle clause can deter this kind of behavior and you can determine, in the clause, how to divide assets if infidelity ever came up

I don't know what country you live in, but in the US you can't decide who gets custody of the children in a prenup (or anything similar), and there's many reasons a prenup could be nullified in court. The judge can just decide to ignore your prenup if he wants to, it's not reliable at all.

>i'm in a relationship with a neet and am neet.

I don't believe you. It doesn't matter how good my "personality" is, even if I had your idea of a "perfect personality" I wouldn't get rewarded with a girlfriend for it in my current financial state.

Everything I've seen indicates that girls only care about money and status for long-term relationships, they don't care if you're an ugly asshole so long as you have money/status, and they don't care if you're good looking with a "great personality" so long as you don't have money/status.

>>2665
They would get the same punishment. It's just that women are far more likely to cheat and that's what is relevant to me.

>>2663
Yes, really.

>>2669
Not the anon your talking to, but why are you coming here sperging?? And BY THE WAY, I am a republican alt right woman who is anti-feminist (they're are loads of anti-feminists here so WAY for preconceived notions), I am attractive, have education, a job, etc and I am engaged to a NEET like you (who actually is a long time incel and lurker of the board) he is a nerdy average as fuck dude. He isn't Brad Pitt, has no job, dropped out of college. And I support him completely (financially) for the whole time & I don't make him feel guilty about it. Bc when you love someone, you don't demand, don't fear monger them, and you do it bc you care, not for your selfish reasons. Recent statistics are showing in the US that out of straight couples, females are on the rise for becoming the main/or sole breadwinner.

So what I'm wondering how that fits in to your narrative?

There are loads of females in the US who completely financially support their male partner (or make more money than them).

And if you have a pre-nuptial than how will they steal your (non existent) money's?

It's absurd to say that the only reason you're a NEET is bc of western women. You won't work and contribute to society ….bc you can't get laid? No, you do it so your poor fucking mother can not have to support your ass, repay her back for all she's done for your ass, so she can see "oh good! My son isn't a NEET, now I won't worry that after I die I'll be leaving a 29 yr old man child alone with no survivial skills and I'll be proud of him!" & to build important life skills.

Who the fuck gets a job or education ONLY unless they get laid/to get pussy? "Ah! Now that I have loyal pussy I shall be employed!" ?!?!

The problem with you incels, is that you psych yourself out based on news headlines, assumptions, vague huge generalized boggy men fears; before you even TRY it yourself to conduct your own expierence and idea.

Living in fear and avoiding females or relationships (when you want that more than anything) just bc "she'll take ALL my moneyss after 100% CERTAIN devorce" & "shell steal muh kids!!!" & "no punishment for cheating!" When you have NO original expierence of your own, basing your fears solely on what others say. I have been with my SO for 8 years, we've never cheated on each other, we're waiting until marriage for sex. My parents are STILL married after 50 years and have never cheated on each other and my mother makes a few hundred more than my father. THEYRE ARE MANY PEOPLE LIKE THIS. It's not based on the gender you moron, it's based on the person you choose.

You can literally avoid all your fears coming true by not buying into others hype, unplugging from that computer, and FINDING A FEMALE WHO HAS A SIMILAR PERSONALITY & ISNT A SHIT PERSON OR A WHORE.

They exist, lots and lots of them. But with your attitude and you spewing unreasonable fears like it's a fact, not gunna happen. AND the ironic thing is that YOU live and are supported by YOUR MOTHER. So you are literally a man who is being financially supported by a female and you can fuck over your mother anytime you want (i.e. Instead of devorice & child custody, you can dump your mother, take all her money, checks, life insurance, house, put her in retirement home) so… does YOUR mother speak about you the same way you speak of "all females".

So how does that make you any different then these "whore women who steal money"? You are leech on your mother, the same way your afraid a woman will leech on you.

When in actually it is ALL overblown porpotional fears, no reality, and just an excuse so you can not have to even fucking try and make yourself vulnerable. don't be a lazy piece of shit, don't let others think for you, fucking at least try, no one says you have to get married or have kids. Just fucking try for a normal girlfriend and use a fucking condom. As for the cheating, both genders do that, and the government is not going throw people in jail for having sex, it is your own body, male & female, that doesn't require the state to govern your free will concerning your body. And is a slippery slope to tyranny. But, my biggest problem is you think that ALL you need is a loyal female who shares and applies your exact opinions to their lives, a female version of you and it will be all good, and you would finally get a job? No bc that doesnt erase your lazy, unmotivated, autistic, selfish self. Getting pussy doesn't make you able to get a job & be good at it. Bc the problem isn't the lack of pussy, it is YOU. Get therapy, I'm actually serious, sheep.

>You won't work and contribute to society ….bc you can't get laid?
>my biggest problem is you think that ALL you need is a loyal female who shares and applies your exact opinions to their lives, a female version of you and it will be all good, and you would finally get a job?
>Who the fuck gets a job or education ONLY unless they get laid/to get pussy? "Ah! Now that I have loyal pussy I shall be employed!" ?!?!
Yes this is all correct, you seem to be having a hard time understanding this, is it that absurd to you? I have nothing else that would motivate me to work, I'd rather just be homeless. The ONLY thing that would motivate me to work is if I could get a loyal wife and have children, and I would work as hard as I needed to if I could get that, but I can't have that so I don't.

I have about $30,000 that I invest/trade stocks with, and if my mother died I will get $100,000 in a life insurance policy and some other inheritance. By that time my returns from the stock market along with the 100k and other inheritance would most likely be enough to live off low-risk stock picks with dividends, and maybe some active trading. I wouldn't even be surprised if something like basic income was implemented in the future, or what the welfare state would look like.

I never have to work, and I will still be able to live comfortably (for my standards, frugally).

It's still not enough money to have a wife and children like this though, at least not anytime soon, and that's what makes me so angry. I'm not motivated to actually try to further succeed because women are almost entirely ruined by feminism and other degenerate shit in modern western society, and the marriage laws are completely broken.

>You do it so your poor fucking mother can not have to support your ass,
>AND the ironic thing is that YOU live and are supported by YOUR MOTHER.
>You are leech on your mother
My mother doesn't even want me to move out, she'd actually be upset and miserable if I did.

>There are loads of females in the US who completely financially support their male partner (or make more money than them).
Guarantee you almost all of those males weren't NEET before they started the relationship.

>And if you have a pre-nuptial than how will they steal your (non existent) money's?
Did you even read my post? "In the US you can't decide who gets custody of the children in a prenup (or anything similar) […] The judge can just decide to ignore your prenup if he wants to"

> Instead of devorice & child custody, you can dump your mother, take all her money, checks, life insurance, house, put her in retirement home)
I couldn't do any of that even if I wanted to, what are you talking about?

>I have been with my SO for 8 years, we've never cheated on each other, we're waiting until marriage for sex.
You must be trolling, 8 years and you've never had sex? I don't even believe you now just because of this statement.

>My parents are STILL married after 50 years
They are from a much older generation.

> just bc "she'll take ALL my moneyss after 100% CERTAIN devorce" & "shell steal muh kids!!!" & "no punishment for cheating!"
It doesn't matter how silly you say it, it's true and has a huge possibility of happening.

>>2749
>voting republican because of limp-dicked neoreactionarism
>banking on universal basic income being implemented while voting for far-right government
kek, pathetic

>>2756
Basic income won't work unless there's extremely strict anti-immigration laws and a disincentive to have children, and it might not work anyway right now in the US because we're only 60% white, the Mexicans will just use it to breed insanely fast, even more insanely fast than they do right now.

>>2662
The cheating thing is bait mate, obviously.

>There is no other reason I would want to work

Because you enjoy the independence it brings you, you feel fulfilled actually doing something with your day, because you like your job, because you like money, because you have a career you want to work on to improve yourself as a person, fucking heaps of reasons.

People don't work so that they can get laid.

>Masculinity comes in many forms, being a NEET in today's society can be masculine.

Fucking kek.

>Any man on Earth who thinks his girlfriend/wife would be okay if he suddenly became a NEET is lying to himself.

There's people in threads here talking about how they either are dating NEET's, or their partner became a NEET, and the only reason it's an issue is because they feel like their partner is kind of depressing to be around, and their lack of ambition brings them down. A bunch said that it's more an issue because they're NEET's that don't actually do anything at all all day, they just play games all day and expect their partner to clean up, and they'd be fine with it if they were contributing to the relationship somehow instead of just being leeches.

Plenty of women are fine with earning more money than their partner, you just have to get that a relationship is a two way street, and you need to contribute to it.

You're silly.


Oh yeah, and judges can't just ignore prenups, you can't just dismiss a contract because "lol fuck it", there has to be a reason.

>>2759
sure, i'll agree that there needs to be strict immigration, and fewer people, but you will NEVER get universal basic income with the american far-right, even if it were feasible. you're too focused on the GOP's racist dog whistles to realise that they're not at all worried about your interests. corporate interest is the bottom line, and they fight to take away your worker protections, daily. universal basic income is, and will be seen, as an entitlement. if there is ever UBI in the us, it'll be implemented far, far, far later than the rest of the world. you choose to vote for people who fight tooth and nail against drug negotiation and think you're somehow winning. if you seriously think their anti-immigrant sentiment isn't just the tool they use to get you guys to vote for them while passing an agenda that works heavily against your own interest, you're deluded.

>I have no reason to contribute to society.

I'm glad you realize this. Thank you for being intelligent enough to realize that you're not suitable for breeding purposes. I wish more men like you would do the right thing and remove themselves from the gene pool.

You're doing society a favour. Thank you.

>>More men than women cheat
[citation needed]

I can however link to an actual scientific consensus which says:
WOMEN CHEAT MORE THAN MEN:
http://www.asanet.org/sites/default/files/savvy/journals/CS/Jun15ASRFeature.pdf

There's also plenty of other peer-reviewed meta studies. You can also simply google. Every single time by the way. The women on this board are so fucking retarded and bluepilled holy shit

>WOMEN ARE SPARKLY LITTLE PRINCESSES WHO DESERVE STRONG MAN WHO SLAVES AWAY FOR THEIR LIVELIHOOD, AND IF THEY DIVORCE YOU IT'S YOUR FAULT
Like holy shit do you narcissists pieces of floor-smudged shit hear yourselves? Holy fuck I used to be pretty centric but after reading this board I am truly redpilled now. Women are just vapid whores.

Thanks. Now I know that no matter who a woman is, imageboard, club slut, doctor's daughter I know one thing. There's a reason why people regard american women as the lowest scum around the world after all.

>>2773
Did you even read what you linked? It's 4 in the morning and I'm skimming but here's what I've gathered, all from your link:

"Men were significantly more
likely to engage in infidelity than women:
men engaged in infidelity in 12 percent of
observations, and women engaged in infidelity
in 9 percent of observations."

"Researchers estimate that in the United
States, between 20 and 25 percent of married
men and between 10 and 15 percent of married
women have engaged in extramarital sex
(Laumann et al. 1994; Wiederman 1997)"

"Despite evidence that infidelity is relatively
widespread, we know rather little about
its determinants. Previous research has investigated
the link between infidelity and a host
of demographic characteristics. For example,
infidelity has been linked to gender (Atkins,
Baucom, and Jacobson 2001; Laumann et al.
1994; Petersen and Hyde 2010; Wiederman
1997), race (Amato and Rogers 1997; Burdette
et al. 2007; Treas and Giesen 2000;
Wiederman 1997), and age (Laumann et al.
1994; Wiederman 1997), with men, African
Americans, and younger adults more likely to
engage in infidelity."

"For breadwinning
men, the greater their relative income, the
more likely they were to engage in infidelity."

hi, marijan šiklić

I know this is bait but some men do think this and are very open about it and it boggles my mind. Do they not realize how pathetic it makes them look to say that the only reason they'd ever act like proper, respectable human beings is pussy?

Just how desperate, thirsty and uncivilized does one have to be to reach that point? Such low human beings. You disgust me, OP.

>>2784
i wouldnt be surprised if it's not bait. this guy sounds pretty stupid and susceptible to this kind of dumbassery.

>>2784
>>2785
>Do they not realize how pathetic it makes them look to say that the only reason they'd ever act like proper, respectable human beings is pussy?

Do you realize this is what started civilization?

Men are the only ones that can build and maintain civilization, almost every single significant invention and achievement ever made was by men, and that's not because women were "oppressed" no matter how much you want to believe it. In some cases, how did they even come to be "oppressed" in the first place? Because they are physically and mentally weaker.

Men contributed to society because they were promised a wife (with legal/cultural protection to make sure she doesn't act out). If you take this away, a very large portion of men feel no need to contribute to society.

You are not a man, you don't think like a man, you have almost no testosterone compared to them, your brain works differently (worse).

Almost every piece of media since forever has had a man working hard so he could win a girl/sex in the end, the hero in the story is always saving some girl from distress and rewarded with her sweet pussy. That is literally what civilization is, men contributing to and advancing society in exchange for pussy.

I find it funny that you can't wrap your heads around this, there is countless men out there NEET'ing it up right now, who would otherwise be contributing to society, but don't because the reward of women/sex/marriage has been ruined.

>>2797

lol

>implying being used as a sex slave/baby machine isn't "oppression"
>implying Marie Curie, Grace Hopper, Nefertiti, Ada Lovelace, et al didn't exist
>implying studies done by (male and female) scientists didn't find high testosterone actually means higher aggression and reduced skills in some areas
>implying that men never fought for power rather than just pussy
>implying anyone wants to even look in the general direction of your unwashed, uneducated, stupid, ugly, and incapable of original thought NEET asses

pls gb2 your safe space beta-chan

>>2798
>implying being used as a sex slave/baby machine isn't "oppression"

No major society in history was like this, and I can't think of any smaller one either. This is made-up super-exaggerated fantasy bullshit from feminists.

>implying Marie Curie, Grace Hopper, Nefertiti, Ada Lovelace, et al didn't exist

Nice job googling the small list of women inventors. I said _almost_ every single significant invention and achievement ever made was made by men (notably white or Asian men).

>high testosterone actually means higher aggression

No shit, that's a good thing in many aspects.

>implying anyone wants to even look in the general direction of your unwashed, uneducated, stupid, ugly, and incapable of original thought NEET asses

All assumptions, you would say I'm hot if you saw me in real life and didn't know I was a NEET that posted comments like this online.

>>2784
It might be news to you but yes, pussy is pretty important to straight men. Not that I agree with OP's worldview on modern women but I only started going to the gym and fixing my diet because I want to get my dick wet.

>>2799

>No major society in history was like this, and I can't think of any smaller one either. This is made-up super-exaggerated fantasy bullshit from feminists.

soooooo you mean that using actual human beings as "rewards" or a prize as you said isn't slavery? giving away daughters for political alliances? not being allowed to say no to sex? have you ever actually picked up a history book?

in fact, marital rape is still legal in many places, including the US.

toppest of keks my lad

>Nice job googling the small list of women inventors. I said _almost_ every single significant invention and achievement ever made was made by men (notably white or Asian men).

that's nice. I didn't google it. have you considered that maybe living in a western and traditionally male-based society where women and people who weren't light-skinned were barred from higher education has anything to do with this?


>All assumptions, you would say I'm hot if you saw me in real life and didn't know I was a NEET that posted comments like this online.

nah, I could smell your gross opinions from how you'd inevitably talk to me. I'm too free-thinking for you and probably need to be "put in my place" for daring to not follow your blueprints. your personality nullifies any "hotness" you could possibly have and makes you absolutely putrid

once again, pls leave, you aren't changing anyone's minds because you are a dying fringe element and are incapable of thinking of new arguments you didn't pick up from your redpilled bros

i'm so tired, I'm gonna go study and hope my feeble brain can handle technical stuff

>>2862
> that using actual human beings as "rewards" or a prize

They still are right now, it's just not as obvious. And no it's not slavery.

>not being allowed to say no to sex?
>marital rape is still legal in many places, including the US.

Rape was always illegal in every major society, you think men of any time period were okay with random guys raping their daughters or sisters? Marital rape isn't legal in the US, but "marital rape" was obviously not looked that down upon because it's seen as a wife's duty to fulfill the sexual needs of her husband, (and vice versa but women have practically no sex drive compared to men).

>traditionally male-based society where women and people who weren't light-skinned were barred from higher education has anything to do with this?

This goes backs hundreds/thousands of years to the beginning of human history, back before there even was any "higher education" to get barred from.

Men invented stuff and advanced society because they're smart and innovative, women didn't. If women were the mentally superior sex they would have been the ones telling men they don't need to go to college. The reality is that 99% of women have no place on a college campus.

>you are a dying fringe element

We're just dormant.

> incapable of thinking of new arguments you didn't pick up from your redpilled bros

I've never seen anyone on /pol/ and /r9k/ talk like me actually, my thoughts and rants are my own, but of course I'm not the first one to think of them.

>>2863
you know you can stop posting any time right?

>>2650
>They don't exist because I'm a NEET with no financial stability to offer.

So you are aware you are subhuman at least?

>>2799
>I said _almost_ every single significant invention and achievement ever made was made by men (notably white or Asian men).

Why do you act like white is a race? You can't merge together like three or four continents and then go "yeah look how much better these are than the other few on their own", that's completely unfair. Compare races if you're going to act like that, or, more accurately, compare civilisations in similar economic situations and see which invents more.

A huge amount of the basics of every scientific field weren't created by white people, by the way, and they still aren't.

>No shit, that's a good thing in many aspects.

It's really not, higher testosterone isn't necessarily a good thing at all. Testosterone is useful for plenty of shit, but making you act like a dickhead isn't one of them, and the things it is useful for it does perfectly well at the levels women have it.

>>2800
Young insecure people start shit to get laid, but they don't stick with it 99.9+% of the time, because they're just stupid young people with no real motivation.

Young girls do the same shit, do stuff to attract guys, and they don't stick with it either.

>>2863
>(and vice versa but women have practically no sex drive compared to men)

Wow thanks doctor you should really get these findings published, they make a lot of sense.

>We're just dormant.

Pfft, yeah, robot uprising soon, right?


>I've never seen anyone on /pol/ and /r9k/ talk like me actually, my thoughts and rants are my own

Yeah, no. You're not the first robot to decide to try to redpill people here, you're not even close to the most interesting of them, and the shit you're saying has all been said before, it's the same regurgitated points that get posted at least once a month by someone.

OP sounds like a sad guy trying to overcompensate his reality. No matter how much he twist data to demonstrate women are inferior and such, it won't change the fact that he can't get laid. Omegas should just embrace the failures they are and become an hero.

>>2892
>Why do you act like white is a race?
White people are a genetically distinct group of people.

>A huge amount of the basics of every scientific field weren't created by white people
Almost everything was created by whites, East Asians, or to a lesser extent Arabs.

>higher testosterone isn't necessarily a good thing at all.
Higher testosterone is always better for men.

>the things it is useful for it does perfectly well at the levels women have it.
Testosterone is largely responsible for muscle building and strength, the entire purpose of taking anabolic steroids is to increase testosterone, because increasing testosterone increases strength and athletic performance that much.

Women are insanely weaker than men when it comes to physical strength, athletic ability, and physical movements/coordination in general (this includes things like video game), that's why sports have leagues separated by gender.

>>2891
So you admit that you're a whore at least?

Keep on switching between "women don't care about money", and "lol subhuman NEET".

>>2920
>overcompensate his reality

I don't think you understand what that word even means, this statement is nonsensical.

>>2921
>White people are a genetically distinct group of people.

So, greek people are genetically the same as danish people? What about Polish people? south africans? They're all genetically the same?

>Almost everything was created by whites, East Asians, or to a lesser extent Arabs.

Sure.

>Higher testosterone is always better for men.

Nope, testosterone within the normal range for men is best, and has no real difference to other values within that range. Above that normal range, you get dangerous side effects. Even just slightly above average (around 800ng/dl) is directly linked to a higher than normal negative health outcome, they're prone to risky behaviour, substance abuse, all sorts of shit.

When you get to significantly higher levels, you start getting much increased risk of depression, uncontrollable anger or mood swings, issues with fertility. These aren't the same as those of anabolic steroids, but they're still dangerous. Interestingly, this is supported by how the body actually handles excess testosterone, which is converted to estrogen. Surely that gives you some idea that the body has an optimal range it wants to stay within?

You're not a doctor, stop acting like you know what you're talking about.

>Keep on switching between "women don't care about money", and "lol subhuman NEET".

Not that poster, but I don't think anyone is shitting on you for being poor, they're shitting on you for acting like a fucking baby and refusing to work with a weakass excuse for it, then claiming that all men agree with you and think the same.

>>2924
>They're all genetically the same?

No and that's not what I said.

You could tell if someone is white from nothing but a genetic test, the white people in any country (doesn't matter if they're living in Nigeria, the geographic location they live in is irrelevant) do all have distinct genetics that identify them as white.

>they're prone to risky behaviour, substance abuse
That's not an effect of the testosterone itself, they're just statistically more likely to do this stuff because of high test. Being a nigger makes you extremely more likely to commit murder or robbery, what do you have to say about that, is being a nigger bad?

>uncontrollable anger or mood swings
Testosterone causes you to act like a man, not a bad thing.

>issues with fertility
>increased risk of depression
>the body actually handles excess testosterone, which is converted to estrogen
This is all complete bullshit, except for the fertility part, which if you did actually read it somewhere is 100% from the use of steroids. Testosterone is primarily produced from men's testicles, when you use anabolic steroids you artificially create all the testosterone you need, so your testicles (not your penis) shrink and it can cause fertility problems.

>You're not a doctor, stop acting like you know what you're talking about.
Neither are you, you're a fucking stupid woman, and you put far more trust in doctors than you should. Doctors are wrong all the time, malpractice/incompetency is extremely common in the medical field, they're just normal people who went through college for a medical degree.

Unless they're a specialist talking about what they specialize in, you shouldn't trust them on anything outside of the realm of very basic medicine.

Just because a doctor says something doesn't make it true. Remember what I said about women being very good at following authority and doing what they're told? Look at how you perceive doctors, you think they're unquestionable.

The truth is the large majority of doctors don't know anything about a wide range of subjects that you just assume they all know everything about. For example if you ask most doctors about nutrition, they will give you stupid advice, or their personal opinion that's no better or more informed than any guy you ask in a gym.

> I don't think anyone is shitting on you for being poor, they're shitting on you for acting like a fucking baby and refusing to work with a weakass excuse for it

If I told them I was rich but didn't work, they wouldn't say anything about it. The problem is I have no money, that is what they care about, not me working.

>>2926
>You could tell if someone is white from nothing but a genetic test

Are you retarded? You're merging all people of one colour into a single group, but refusing to do so for any other. I'm not talking about genetics in the slightest.

Either compare actual ethnicities, or merge all brown people into a single group as well.

I'd be interested in seeing a source, because I'm getting a feeling you're pulling this out of your ass anyway.

>That's not an effect of the testosterone itself, they're just statistically more likely to do this stuff because of high test.

>That's not an effect of the testosterone they're just more likely to do it because of the testosterone

wew

>Testosterone causes you to act like a man, not a bad thing.

I mean, if convincing yourself that mood swings is masculine makes you feel like less of a bitch, good on ya.

>This is all complete bullshit, except for the fertility part,

What a great argument.
>This thing causes no issues at all!
>No, actually here's a list of the issues it causes
>Nice try liar lmao

And just so you know, what you're saying is entirely untrue. I explicitly avoided talking about anabolics, and you can see these effects in any disorder that impacts your bodies production of testosterone.

>Neither are you, you're a fucking stupid woman, and you put far more trust in doctors than you should.

Wow you're right you totally opened my eyes, that 12+ years of education and training it takes to become a fully qualified doctor doesn't actually change anything, I should listen to a strong NEET male with no training at all instead.

Turns out endocrinologists actually know nothing about what's healthy for the human body, who knew?

>If I told them I was rich but didn't work, they wouldn't say anything about it.

Nah, people who are rich and do nothing but consume are fucking pathetic as well.


So, just for clarifications sake, we're meant to believe that you're super attractive, more muscular than 99% of people out there, are a more reliable source of medical information than literal doctors, and have worked out the base function of all females, making you smarter than the entire psychological community as well? Yet you're still unable to make any money from these revelations? Sounds believable to me.

>>2930
> but refusing to do so for any other.
You can do the same for other races too, I didn't say you can't.

>wew
You fail to understand how statistics work. Being born black makes you statistically far more likely to commit murder or robbery than whites, does being black itself make you commit murder or robbery? Not necessarily, it just makes you more likely.

>What a great argument
You're the one that has to prove testosterone does those things.

>endocrinologists
Did you miss the part where I exempted specialists who are talking about their own specialization? An average doctor knows nothing but basic knowledge about testosterone, no more than any normal person should. He might have heard something more advanced about it 20 years ago when he got his degree.

>you're super attractive
Nah.
>more muscular than 99% of people out there
Yes.
>are a more reliable source of medical information than literal doctors
On some topics yes, I know more than the large majority of doctors, in most cases no. I know more about drug withdrawals and how to treat them than the vast majority of doctors (mainly just because they know nothing about them), I would say I understand nutrition and plant-based medicine/supplementation better than most doctors too. I wouldn't dare question a surgeon though.
>making you smarter than the entire psychological community as well?
I am certainly smarter than anyone retarded enough to go to college for a degree in pseudoscience.

>>2932
>You can do the same for other races too, I didn't say you can't.

White is not a race.

>Being born black makes you statistically far more likely to commit murder or robbery than whites, does being black itself make you commit murder or robbery?

Correlation does not equal causation necessarily. However, we can directly see that the testosterone levels here are the cause, as you see the same behavioural changes in those who have increased test levels from whatever.

>You're the one that has to prove testosterone does those things.

No, I'm not actually, you made the original claim that it's always good, you have to back that up. The evidence I provided is equal to yours.

Men with extremely high testosterone levels (as in above 1000ng/dl) doesn't really happen naturally either, so it's caused by either anabolics or other disorders, which you'll of course pass off as "not counting" if I provide citations on that anyway.

>An average doctor knows nothing but basic knowledge about testosterone, no more than any normal person should.

Haha, okay dude, sure.

>Nah.
>>2799
>All assumptions, you would say I'm hot if you saw me in real life

>I know more about drug withdrawals and how to treat them than the vast majority of doctors

You realise that literally any MD will have a damn good understanding of this, right? It's one of the more common things doctors have to deal with, they literally all learn a significant amount about it, and deal with it while doing mandatory ER time.

>I would say I understand nutrition and plant-based medicine/supplementation better than most doctors too

Nutrition isn't in a doctors training beyond basic shit, it's not a medical disorder, and if you need explanations on it, they just refer you to a relevant expert.

We're not talking about nutrition or any of the other number of things not covered in a medical degree, we're talking about the actual impacts of changes in a certain hormone on the human body, which is, shockingly, a medical topic.

>I am certainly smarter than anyone retarded enough to go to college for a degree in pseudoscience.

t. person who knows nothing about psychology

>>2934
>White is not a race.
Yes of course, "white people" don't exist. Not interested in this stupid argument, please don't start it.

>You realise that literally any MD will have a damn good understanding of this, right?
If only you knew. Doctors prescribe benzos (Xanax, Klonopin, etc.) for long-term usage without even being aware there is withdrawal effects.

Go ask any doctor you want how long benzo withdrawals last, they probably won't know. The withdrawals last for months/years, cold turkey withdrawals can kill you, but 90% of doctors will have no clue at all, or think you can taper of in a couple weeks.

Go try it really, go find out just how much doctors know about withdrawals from drugs, even specialists who work in rehabs are fucking retarded, let along average doctors, I'm serious.

You put way too much faith in doctors, like most women do, you see them as unquestionable authority figures. I see them as regular people who got a medical degree, and a lot of them are fucking idiots.

>t. person who knows nothing about psychology
I know more than I wish I knew about psychiatry/psychology, it is a pseudoscience that causes massive amounts of harm.

There is no such thing as a physical test for a "mental illness", there is no test to see if someone has a "chemical imbalance" in their brain. The APA literally votes diseases into existence. They fabricate diseases by grouping together combinations of emotions/behaviors, vote the disease into existence, and then "diagnose" it by having someone arbitrarily observe and question. Then they push mind-altering harmful addictive drugs onto these people, even children. For example ADD was voted into existence in 1980, and since then children who don't pay attention well enough in school were given amphetamines, an incredibly harmful drug.

Their diagnostic procedure is not scientific whatsoever, it is heavily arbitrary, and they're diagnosing fake diseases anyway. You could take one person to a certain psychiatrist, then to another, and come out with a wildly varying diagnosis.

Now sometimes it is obvious that someone has something wrong with their brain, in many of these cases doctors don't actually know what is wrong, or an attempt to find out wasn't even made.

Instead they are brought to a psychiatrist/psychologist, and they arbitrarily label them with one of the many fabricated labels they have. It does not solve anything, and in many cases causes harm through stigmatization, a self-fuffiling prophecy (I have the label now I have to act like it), or most seriously the negative effects from the harmful drugs.

This isn't a true medical science. Hopefully in a 100 years it will be looked back on as the primitive pseudoscience that it is.

>>2936
>Yes of course, "white people" don't exist

Didn't say that at all, I said that white people aren't one race. Obviously white people exist.

>The withdrawals last for months/years, cold turkey withdrawals can kill you, but 90% of doctors will have no clue at all, or think you can taper of in a couple weeks.

You know, when you create an argument of "Oh in real life this is the case" that is obviously impossible to prove and has no real logic behind it (because every piece of literature on the topic explains it, and doctors do cover this topic in med school, rotations and residency), it kind of makes your argument pretty weak.

>I know more than I wish I knew about psychiatry/psychology, it is a pseudoscience that causes massive amounts of harm.

Sure you do. I guess the insane amount of good it does just doesn't exist?

Your understanding of diagnosis is so fucking terrible I'm not going to bother addressing it, either, you have no understanding of the process at all.

>Then they push mind-altering harmful addictive drugs onto these people, even children.

What makes this field worse than any other? It's medication, that exists in every field of medicine, and no medicine is used without being demonstrated to work first.

>You could take one person to a certain psychiatrist, then to another, and come out with a wildly varying diagnosis.

This is true for plenty of other fields too, diagnosis isn't easy in any area, let alone psychiatry. The field is still insanely new and developing, it's not at all perfect yet.

You're also just lying here, because you're going to get very similar diagnoses from psychiatrist to psychiatrist with the vast, vast majority of cases, because you can only diagnose off present symptoms. Some are more complex and harder to diagnose, but that's true for any field.

I'm not really bothering putting in much effort here, because if you gave a shit about the answers, you'd have done the research into the process of researching disorders and demonstrating they exist (as in how this is done), the stupid amounts of restrictions on how this research can be done and considered valid.

Like I said, there's objective benefits shown in psychiatry and psychology, people who are mentally ill, come into an office and are treated. You literally can't deny this.


I love how you dropped all the shit that I proved false by the way, or about your claims about totally being super hot.

You're pathetic, and I'm honestly pretty much done replying to you, you're just going to keep going "nuh uh" and making dumb claims regardless of how many of them I or other people prove to be just that.

>>2939
Transaction analysis is helpful

>>2939
>It's medication
Psychiatric drugs are mind-altering drugs specifically given for the purpose of altering someone's mind, they are not proven to cure, treat, or fix any physical problem in someone's brain.

Amphetamines for example cause brain damage, but that doesn't mean they're not effective at making people focus, which is why they're prescribed, not because they fix a physical defect in the brain.

It's not legitimate medicine.

>The field is still insanely new and developing,

It's not that new, and it's not that long ago that they were commonly preforming lobotomies and electro-shock therapy, the latter of which is still more common than it should be.

> you're just going to keep going "nuh uh
Hypocrite.

>>2943
>they are not proven to cure, treat, or fix any physical problem in someone's brain.

That doesn't mean they don't work mate. You get we don't know how anesthetic works either? Are you going to claim that it's a scam and we shouldn't use it?

The important thing is that it's proven to help people with mental illnesses.

>Amphetamines for example cause brain damage

In recreational dosages, yes, I've not seen enough evidence to say it occurs in therapeutic ones, which are vastly different.

>the latter of which is still more common than it should be.

By what standard is it more common than it should be? It's a last line therapy for people who aren't able to function in the community and are completely unresponsive to other treatments. Should we just leave them in hospitals forever? Let them go out and kill someone or themselves?

Your entire argument here is "I might not know anything about how these things work, or why they're effective, but I sure don't like them, so lets ban that shit". You just look stupid.

>>2945
Do you enjoy arguing with me?

>>2948
Oh yeah, really gets the juices flowing.

I'm curious, what do you get out of coming here and posting dumb shit?

Jesus Christ, you're absolutely pathetic. What don't you blame for your failures? You've blamed pussy, women, society, feminism, races, immigration and more. Not that you're the first of your sad type to do that, but this is just sad.

Just accept that its your own fault. You are a failure, period. And like other farmers, i too want to thank you for not breeding. The world definitely doesn't need more "men" like you.

You don't want to get married, right… Haha. That other anon is right that no gal wants to marry you, but you twist things so you won't accept reality.

Ok but I guess it's okay if you cheat? And what are you gonna do to take care of the kids alone?
You're not gonna do shit I vet you've never washed a dish in your life, let alone any actual cleaning women are expected to do like washing the toilet or your disgusting underwear. Men like you don't do shit except earn a paycheck and expect everything to be done for them, but hey we're in 2017 women work just as much as you do, not happy? Move, just get with the fucking program

>>2955
>Ok but I guess it's okay if you cheat?
You obviously didn't read the thread, I don't blame you because it's really long, but I hate adultery, I think someone who cheats on their spouse should go to prison for any amount of time the victim chooses. Do I sound like someone who would cheat?

>You're not gonna do shit I vet you've never washed a dish in your life, let alone any actual cleaning women are expected to do like washing the toilet or your disgusting underwear
I live with my mom and do all the housework, I can't even relax if the house isn't clean. I don't think this is difficult either, it takes at most 2 hours a day, it's not comparable to having a real job. I hate when women start some circlejerk about how housework is "hard" trying to put it on the same level of work as their husband who has a real job.

> Men like you don't do shit except earn a paycheck and expect everything to be done for them
If a man earns all the money, and his wife is unemployed, she is obligated to do all the housework. If she doesn't, she's the one who expects everything to be done for her, not him, retard.

>but hey we're in 2017 women work just as much as you do,
So they don't work at all? You haven't even read the OP if you didn't even know I'm a NEET.

The problem with women all becoming successful career women is that they don't want to become mothers/wives, or they put it off until they're so old they will likely only produce retarded children.

Successful career-women who make decent money still refuse to date down, they won't date/marry a male NEET, and if they do marry a husband who makes less money they act like they're God because of it, deserving of praise for how virtuous they are just for "settling" with a man who makes less money.

When men are financially successful, they WANT an unemployed wife/gf.

>>2954
>You've blamed pussy, women, society, feminism, races, immigration and more.
And I've rightfully blamed them.

>You don't want to get married
I really want a wife and to start a family, but not under these marriage laws, or with the current state of females in western society.

>>2953
Get to talk directly with normal women about what is wrong with them.

>>2956
>Get to talk directly with normal women about what is wrong with them.

So, you came here with the intention of telling women, what women think and why they're wrong?

And you couldn't even back that up with any sort of logic that didn't rely on insults and false assumptions, as well as avoiding any points that people proved were ridiculous?

Wow you sure got me, I'm #redpilled now.

>>2956

>Successful career-women who make decent money still refuse to date down

I actually did this, and do not recommend. Five years of dead weight, no improvement and childish lies.

Cut him loose, paid off our debt, doing much better.

>I wonder what happens to NEETs when their parents die…

>>2656
>Men don't have to be good looking to find a partner, literally all you have to do is have good hygiene and not be a fat ass. That's not hard.
>I can already tell you have a meek, socially awkward attitude that is woman repellent. Nobody respects a pussy.
To be fair these are kinda contradictory.

>>2645
But men also cheat too.

Now I do understand that you don't wish to have a partner that cheats on you, get custody of the kids when she's not fit to take care of them, or have someone who is very provocative. Many people don't want that either and I don't blame you, hell I wouldn't want that either.

But to complain on having to pay for child support. Now come on, that's something that's vital for your child's upbringing as it can fund their education and other needs. I know that some partners will use the money for themselves but at least you're showing that you care for your children.

And men can also be whores too, just saying.

So Neet Anon, all I can say is that clearly, you sound like someone who has met the wrong people and you know what, we all have. So chill, take your time and I'm sure you'll find that special snowflake In your life


Although one question, are you one those MGTOW supporters?

>>2645
Kek its really a fucking mystery why you are single.

>>2963
>So chill, take your time and I'm sure you'll find that special snowflake In your life
This isn't true. Far more people are winding up unmarried by their forties. Nothing is fated, and your odds of finding a stable marriage aren't even that good. They may be awful depending on race and social class.

Stop thinking that life just works out, it doesn't. You may have to work for it and you may have to settle.

>>2960
Yes I do.

>>2963
>But to complain on having to pay for child support. Now come on, that's something that's vital for your child's upbringing
Single mom who receives child support detected.

I have a problem with them taking my children in the first place, of course I have a problem with them forcing me to pay money so they can take my kids away.

>are you one those MGTOW supporters?
I don't identify as that, I don't identify with any group/movement.

MGTOW says that men shouldn't be in long-term relationships with females, at most you can have casual sex with random sluts from Tindr/clubs or something.

I want to marry a girl, and I'm not interested in casual sex with sluts, I could probably do it if I tried, but it's not really what I want. If Lana Rain wanted to have sex I would do it though, I would pay $10,000 just to fuck Lana Rain once.

>>2967
Yes, this realistic pessimism is satisfying to hear.

>>2968
> I want to marry a girl, and I'm not interested in casual sex with sluts, I could probably do it if I tried, but it's not really what I want. If Lana Rain wanted to have sex I would do it though, I would pay $10,000 just to fuck Lana Rain once.

So you complain about women being turned into sluts and whores when you are the direct cause of it.

>>2968
I'm actually curious, what do you think should be done with the kids in the event of a breakup? Obviously stuff doesn't always work out for whatever reason, but what do you think is best for the kids? You clearly don't like the mother getting them, so should the father get them?

Or are you more reasonable and think that custody should be split, and if the parents live far away from each other they should give primary custody to whichever parent either the kid chooses or can provide a much better situation?

>>2969
Can't change human nature, they're whores no matter what. There's no use arguing about "what if every guy just stopped giving women money and free shit?"

It will never happen, no point in arguing over that hypothetical scenario.

>>2971
I want a way to decide who gets custody of the children before the marriage.

You can't decide who gets custody of the children in a prenup, and prenups are almost worthless because they can just be ignored by a judge.

I want a prenup where I can say "I get custody of the kids and keep 100% of my money/assets", and I want that prenup guaranteed to be respected in the case of divorce.

If they didn't sign this hypothetical "prenup", then it could be decided through the divorce courts like it is now.

>>2974
Situations change and what might have been the best years ago isn't necessarily the case when a divorce happens later. I mean ffs kids aren't assets.
Btw those statistics are bullshit. Yes, moms get custody more often than dad. However, the reverse happens when the dad actually bothers to fight for custody. They actually have a better chance than the mom.

>>2968
>>2974
You really shouldn't worry about problems that wont affect you, no-ones going to breed with you.
Also can you really be sure they are your children?

Thinking about posting a picture of myself showing off my body that I worked hard for, I want to break the stereotype women have of redpilled NEETs, like the ones calling me an ugly slob.

I have a fairly big cock too. If only women cared about looks, muscles, and big cock more than money, like the rest of 4chan thinks they do. What they really want is money though.

They don't even care that I would worship them and do all the housework and never cheat or divorce. They don't care about any of it if you don't have money, really all they care about is money.

>>2980
>I mean ffs kids aren't assets.

In the case of divorce that's exactly what they're treated like.

>Situations change and what might have been the best years ago isn't necessarily the case when a divorce happens later.

I can't think of any circumstance that should break the contract that wouldn't result in the guy going to prison anyway.

>>2981
I would get a genetic test to make sure they're my kid.

Don't worry, I assure you I'm going to breed before I die. I just need to get more money.

>>2984
woman care about a good personality though, and yours is annoying, from what I can see. You might be less annoying irl, but your sperging about not getting any women suggests otherwise.

Look at the "men you're ashamed to say you would fuck" thread. There's lots of people on there people wouldn't consider typically attractive.

inb4 girls only want those guys because they're famous

I wouldn't date date a 10/10 rich guy with a rotten personality, even if he was a celebrity. Alter your personality and maybe you'll get the pure, virginal girl you want.

>>2974
>I want a way to decide who gets custody of the children before the marriage.

But this is a ridiculous idea that doesn't at all say what's best for the actual children. They're not property, they're people that need to be looked after properly and given appropriate care. Your idea is just as bad if not worse than the current situation.

>and prenups are almost worthless because they can just be ignored by a judge.

This is a myth, a solid prenup can't just be ignored for no reason at all.

>>2986
>Look at the "men you're ashamed to say you would fuck" thread. There's lots of people on there people wouldn't consider typically attractive.
I know girls don't actually care as much about looks as most people think, I said that.

Compared to how much they care about money, they don't care at all about looks or personality.

If girls cared about looks more than money then I would have a gf.

> Alter your personality and maybe you'll get the pure, virginal girl you want.
Haha no, only money will do that.

>>2987
>But this is a ridiculous idea that doesn't at all say what's best for the actual children. They're not property, they're people that need to be looked after properly and given appropriate care. Your idea is just as bad if not worse than the current situation.
None of this is an argument, there's nothing wrong with deciding custody of children pre-marriage, we shouldn't have to do that but that's what things have come to.

>a solid prenup can't just be ignored for no reason at all.
You can't even say "I keep all my money/assets" in a prenup, it's not that simple. It's just not reliable.

>>2988
>None of this is an argument,

You can't just use "nuh uh doesn't count" as your counter. Deciding years before the divorce who gets the children doesn't take into account what's best for the kids in the moment, just what you personally want, it's selfish and shitty of you.

>You can't even say "I keep all my money/assets" in a prenup

You can say what you want, but in a marriage, you really don't have individual assets, you share them with your partner.

What you want is a marriage with no actual commitment on your behalf.

>>2968
Haha, I wish I can be a mom,Anon but I'm infertile. So your detection is wrong

However I do understand what you mean by not wanting to have your children be forcefully taken from you but most laws go toward in favour of the mom. So if your children end up being given to your ex spouse, child support is something that you can give to help even though,like I've stated before, it may not be used for them but at least it shows that you care and will show that you are responsible.

But I see, sorry I was just curious if you were part of the movement.

>>2984
Not everyone only cares about money,Anon. I will admit though that money is an important factor in one's life because it provides security but it's not something that everyone will consider when going for a person that they like or if they have a big cock or amazing body or etc. Perhaps your mindset of "all women only want money" is making it impossible for you to get a girlfriend because you constantly put yourself down just because you don't have a ton of money. Something like that shows in your personality, conversations and gestures and people pick up on that insecurity and may not like that.

With all due respect, I'm sure you're a handsome and sweet fellow but your insecurity with money is so great, it's no wonder you don't have a girlfriend. Maybe you're the one who cares more about the presence money…?

Saged cause my English is shit sorry

>>2990

Sorry, my computer glitched out. but >>2990 is right.
You are overestimating either your looks or personality (i'm guessing it's personality.)

Nobody is obligated to date you. Why do you think you deserve a gf if you are a miserable person? The universe doesn't give a shit about your >tfw no gf, and society shouldn't either.