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No. 738758

Heather Sparkles is a grown adult woman who insists on airing her dirty laundry about her divorce to the internet, using her online following as a hugbox and personal army to defend her against her meanie husband (who is trying to repair their marriage) and all of her friends and family (who are only on husband's side because they hate her and are trying to manipulate her). She has been publicly melting down since October 2018.

Heather Sparkles is a 28-year-old vintage toy collector on Instagram and YouTube. She has 21k subscribers on YouTube and had 9k followers on Instagram, before she deleted it (Instagram is now back up). She posts pictures/videos of her toy collection, films herself talking about them, does toy reviews of modern toys that companies send her, and generally has an innocent, drama-free existence on the internet, albeit a pretty childish one. That is, until these past few months, as she's decided she's been living a lie and now is "dropping the act." She's been uploading more lifestyle content as of late, which some of her subscribers (likely children just trying to watch videos about toys) are not taking well to. She has responded to the negativity by removing individual comments, turning off comments on certain videos, removing videos after hours of being online, declaring she's taking a break from social media for her mental health (and then returning less than a week later), venting on snapchat, and deleting her social media accounts. She has also radically changed her style in a matter of weeks, going from frumpy pastel "fairy-kei" to even frumpier black and gray normie clothes, and back again. This meltdown seems to stem from her divorce from her husband Adam, which she announced first on snapchat (and then deleted within a few hours).

She has stated in many videos that she has no friends in real life (despite evidence to the contrary) and that she treats online interactions as friendships. Her desperate pleas for attention across her social media platforms attest to her social ineptitude and her dire need for face-to-face human interaction, rather than the shallow conversations and compliments she seeks on the internet to shield herself from the reality of her divorce.

Here's a list of things she's done that were either cringey, funny, or related to her meltdown.

>Mentions "big changes" and "dark times" in her videos for months, never gets into specifics

>Ate rotten fruit on camera, pretended to like it
>Buys a $900 DSLR camera that she has no idea how to use for her YouTube channel in September
>Less than a month later says she's thinking of quitting YouTube after vlogmas
>Still doesn't know how to use the new camera in low lighting, uses her old camera
>At the beginning of October says she's taking a break from all social media accept YouTube for the month, is back on Instagram and makes a snapchat within two weeks
>Uploads a haul video of new clothes that are radically different in style to what she normally wears, says this is her "true self" and that she felt silly in the pastels
>Still wears cat ears in nearly every video
>Shows lingerie in clothing haul video and talks about how she feels "super sexy" to her underage viewers
>Posts more lingerie footage to snapchat
>Uploads a "what I eat in a day" video and removes it the same day after getting one negative comment and then disabling comments
>Has Twitter meltdown, deletes Twitter: "You do something that upsets people so you apologize, and then other people get upset at you for apologizing"
>Announces her divorce on snapchat and deletes it within a few hours
>Says she's been "madly in love with someone" (who I'll refer to as "mystery guy"), posts cringey snaps lip-syncing to love songs
>Posts about her divorce on Instagram and deletes it within a day
>Spends days talking about all the clothes she'll be selling on depop because she desperately needs money even though she just dropped hundreds on a camera she can't use and might stop trying to use in the near future, rather than getting a job
>Posts video titled "I've Hit Rock Bottom" in which she waxes on vaguely about her personal problems, how she's an "oversharer" on social media, is only doing snapchat and YouTube now, mentions "missed opportunity" that her actions caused her to lose
>Says that when something negative happens in your life, it's just a result of negative energy you're putting out and it's the universe sending you a message that you need to change (wonder if she'll think that about this thread?)
>Less than a day after the video, says she regrets it and might delete it because she's lost subscribers (even though she keeps saying she doesn't care and will post whatever she wants to her channel)
>Uses chocolate and video games to avoid her problems
>"Spills all the tea" on snapchat: posts details of divorce, how she met the "love of her life" at an event, Facebook meltdown that lead to mystery guy getting threats and being told to never talk to her, Adam forced her to have a ten-hour stay in mental facility and also supposedly has her phone "bugged" so he can track her movements and delete contacts. Deletes snaps within an hour.
>Has saved up lots of money to go on date with mystery guy, but now that she's given up on him, she's spending it on this new guy instead
>Goes on a date with new guy (with tattoos?) from tinder, hooks up on first date
>Goes on date with tinder guy, out to dinner, goes back to his place to watch youtube, Adam and a mutual friend show up banging on the window (tracker on her phone), Heather and tinder guy calls cops, Adam and mutual friend leave after Adam tells tinder guy that Heather's bipolar and he needs to stay away from her
>Verbally jerks herself off on snapchat: "Sorry honey, my glow up is here and it's not for you" "Where did this vixen come from?"
>Says "I've Hit Rock Bottom" video was made only to impress mystery guy and show him that she's changed and has calmed down
>Keeps posting videos of her checking herself out in the mirror: "I am turning into one cutie" "I know I'm not supposed to be full of myself, but if you knew the life I had you'd understand"
>"I'm ready to tell it all to you, I don't even care, I have no one to impress"
>"Spills tea" yet again, almost the same spiel as last time but also included Adam in this one. Kept pointing camera at him, saying she'll never trust him again, she still wants a divorce, forcing him to apologize and confess on snapchat
>Says she doesn't want to out mystery guy, but she says his first name is Ryan. With some digging, I found out mystery guy is youtuber Ryan Snefsky. She shared one of his motivational videos on her facebook page before the meltdown began
>"Everyone that's ever met me has seen something special in me and they've tried to break me"
>She keeps lip-syncing the same two songs (Heaven and thank u, next), doesn't know the words

I stopped maintaining this running list about two weeks ago.

YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/user/FreyaBunny19/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/heathersparklesyt/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/kittysparklesyt?lang=en

No. 738761

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Her husband posted these on his instagram story today

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No. 738766

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His twitter rant

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No. 738774

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Something her husband posted about a month ago. He claims to want to keep this stuff offline, but then posts things like this about it. He's a bit of a cow too imo. I'm not sure which one is telling the truth in all this. I'm sure both are lying to a great degree.

No. 738779

I've got about an hour and ten minutes of her snap stories recorded from October/early November, but I'm having trouble finding a free site where I can upload long videos anonymously. If you have suggestions, please let me know. I have footage of her crying, forcing her husband to recant his sins, flip-flopping on topics, lip-syncing terribly, posts from the middle of a marriage counseling session… lots of stuff.

No. 738783

Newest video that has nothing to do with her channel niche at all

No. 738785

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>>738783
Possibly lied about who she went on the exploration with

No. 738792

I accidentally deleted one of the snap story videos, so I'll write down what I remember: she posted a series of videos where she says she thinks her husband has called the cops on her and that she's going to be 302'd again. The sobs for a brief moment and then frantically begins gathering her stuff/getting dressed. Says "at least I'll have a bra on this time." I think these snaps were up on her story for under an hour before they were taken down and replaced with a brief video saying that she's fine and isn't being 302'd.

No. 738795

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Pathetic husband trying to gain her favor on twitter

No. 738798

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Last thing I have: this funny picture of her when she was 17 (she deleted this pretty rapidly)

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No. 738802

>>738795
awh poor cucklord :(

No. 738816

>>738798
goth style was coherent and put together. new style looks like a newly out tranny with how mishmashed and half assed it is.

No. 738836

Wasn't there something about furries recently or was that only the husband being a freaky weirdo and hanging out with dogfuckers?

No. 738837

>>738836
That was all her I'm pretty sure. She even drew a fursona for herself and still references furries and wanting to be a furry often.

No. 738840

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>>738836
She went to a furry convention this year and vlogged it. This is her fursona.

No. 738842

>>738798
wow she actually looked good during the amy lee era. she looks like trash now with that pink lemonade koolaid dye lookin mop on her head.

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Looks like someone else has seen through her act.

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No. 738867

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The person she blocked. I'm surprised she hasn't deleted these comments yet.

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No. 738900

>>738771
"I watched as my wife had sex with another man"

…. did this guy seriously just follow her to her bootycall's house and peep on them fucking? bc, thats creepy, yo. like this guy seems like a total fuckin' creep that he is trying to "save his marriage" by clinging to a woman who clearly has no intentions of ever being faithful to him. let her go, dude.

No. 738919

He went along on her snapchat videos saying that guy manipulated everyone and told her that guy was telling him to 302 her because he thought that guy was a therapist but now it's because she attacked him? Wouldn't there be a police report somewhere so we could confirm?

No. 738923

>>738900

"I stalked my wife and watched her get laid and she wants a divorce but I won't give it to her" he sounds like a great catch. And he doesn't have to resort to airing his version just because she did. Are they fresh out of high school?

No. 738941

>>738923
Yes, he seems just as crazy as her. "I don't want to be married to you anymore" is a perfectly valid reason to get a divorce and all this I WILL WIN HER BACK garbage just makes him look like a fucking lunatic and loser.

No. 738950

Is she autistic? Serious question.

No. 738967

>>738950
She has been diagnosed with OCD. No idea about autism.

No. 738968

>>738961

Most people with collection hobbies and anxiety probably have OCD. I don't think it's autism, old videos were too much about fitting into cliques (vegans, lolitas, BJD, furries, fairy-kei, kawaii-whatever) and worrying about popularity. She used to do pony restoration too, normally there's one solid obsession.

No. 738991

>>738941
He seems incredibly manipulative to me. I can understand being devestated by the end of a relationship and not wanting to just let go but he's trying REALLY hard to sound like the good guy here. Her cheating is enough to show that she fucked him over but he wants to sound like her amazing knight in shining armor who won't give up on her no matter what. Even as she's kicking and screaming and trying him to fuck off.
Frankly, it makes me question if he really is abusive to some extent as she claims, he seems like the type to be very passive aggressive and guilt-trippy.

No. 738995

>>738991
I agree. I would buy that he’s emotionally abusive. That particular brand of manipulation where he waxes on about what a terrible person she is and what a good, loving, virtuous person he is for just putting up with her. Telling her she can’t divorce him due to her financial dependence on him. Making himself look like a saint for staying with her when she clearly 100% does not want that at all.

Him going public with all of it definitely makes him a cow, as well. I wouldn’t doubt that she’s in a manic state right now, with all of the weird, off-brand, conceited, impulsive shit she’s doing to sabotage her own image. But if it’s her vs this slimy cuckhold, I’m Team Sparkles.

No. 739001

>>738995

I will drink to Team Sparkles, anon. Maybe cheating was her attempt at getting divorce papers for Christmas? Or maybe he took back the ok to sleep with other people because he wasn't catching any fish.

If her financial dependence is because he insists on paying for everything and won't even let her get her phone in her name that could even explain why she's having a crazy spiral disaster online.

No. 739026

oh boy i'm glad this thread popped up, this girl commented on my IG once and I followed her back on a whim, never watched her YT or read her twitter and it was still pretty obvious there was some fucked up drama going on. tbh i was surprised to learn she was married since she looks/sounds 12

No. 739095

>>738991
OP here, I agree that the husband is super manipulative and has probably been genuinely emotionally abusive throughout the entire marriage. If you watch some of her old videos with him in it, it's clear that they grate on each other's nerves. She's made comments like "oh you guys just don't understand how Adam and I are to each other" but I always saw through those as weak attempts at hiding their issues.

The original post definitely reads as pro-husband, I'm seeing that now. I mostly just wanted to point out the flaws in her logic and how she's been treating him throughout all this, because it certainly isn't good.

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Dude, SHE DOESN'T LOVE YOU. Move on. Stop being a controlling piece of shit.

No. 739100

I'm sure Heather is a cow but at the same time I don't understand how ready people are to just believe her husband.

Heather complained that he's following and controlling her, and him filming those scenes would be consistent with that. Also lending someone gloves does not mean you are not an abusive husband.

I think the truth will lie somewhere in the middle, like with Nemu and David. I am so sure by reading what he's written that the husband is in fact a piece of shit too.

No. 739104

>>738766
After seeing this I have to say I really, really see a lot more truth in Heather's side. He says the "marriage was stable until August" when you could visibly tell in vlogs dating over a year back their relationship wasn't great. Their chemistry was extremely uncomfortable, this guy had some amount of disdain for what Heather liked and was always stand offish with her and to the camera. Seeing how he's reacted to her leaving this time I can't imagine how many times she probably tried to leave before and he manipulated her into staying with the usual "I'll change" bullshit these dudes do.

"We got over an argument over wanting to see other people" means "she tried to break up with me and I made it clear she was not allowed to escape, so she lashed out like any cornered person would"

This guy is a piece of shit. The fact he even called the police on her in the first place in that situation. God speed Heather, hope you break free of this fucking cunt.

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Keep digging your hole, Adam.

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the husband keeps mentioning that he wants to start a youtube channel. could the marriage drama just be some way to generate interest for his future youtube channel?

No. 739165

>>739161
Except for us thirsty salt-beasts I don't think some domestic drama will draw all that much attention.

No. 739169

>>739141
Yikes, this dude is delusional

No. 739179

I have the feeling she doesn't have a support group outside of her fanbase. If she doesn't move out I fear she will just sink deeper and deeper into a hole. I feel bad for her. Cheating is a shit thing to do but the dude sounds like a real piece of work, wow.

No. 739180

>>739179
She's definitely acting out because she doesn't have an irl support network. I genuinely feel bad for her but she should really know not to broadcast this online. She's 28 years old.

No. 739194

>>739161
Nah, if anything I think it's just yet another way this guy is showing Heather "wherever you go, I'll find you"

She needs to get out of there asap. I fully believe everything she has said about him after reading what HE HIMSELF has written.

No. 739196

>>739179
It was obviously just one last attempt to drive this dude away. Heather has clearly been trying to leave him for some time and realised that he isn't going to let her leave, it has to be him to leave. Anyone would think that would be enough to drive him away but he seems to see Heather as a naughty child who needs to be reformed more than an adult with free will

No. 739226

>>739196

I think that's the worst part too. Afaik they were already together back when she was in California and that was at least five years ago. Yeah she's 28 or whatever (yikes!) but how long has he been treating her like a naughty child? Does he even let her do any basic adult function things?

Also how disgusting, he insists on kissing her on the forehead when she's sick like it's a gift and brags about it? She doesn't want you dude. Don't kiss people who don't want you. What kind of shitstain.

I miss her old videos because the Sparkles thing is a cute angle and some of it was lulzy, and some was nostalgic. Sister had some of those toys, kinda nice to see they still exist somewhere. But I don't think he's going to let her grow up OR get away.

No. 739230

>>739226
She lived in CA? I thought she mentioned in her 50 facts about me video that she was born in Georgia or something but grew up and lived her whole life in Pennsylvania.

No. 739235

>>739230

They both lived in CA at some point, I think it was before she got into vlogging. He's from there. I remember a bunch of drama in the doll hobby about one of their disasters chasing her out of the fanbase, and some cow gloating about how Heather could never come back.

I only really remember because that one had someone tattling on Kiwifarms a year or two ago. But Heather used to sell dolls on her Instagram. Her old videos on Youtube have them.

No. 739240

>>739226
I honestly think this guy would have been like this very shortly after they started dating and just got more and more intense with it as it progressed. That's usually how these guys go. It's hard to notice it at first. "I love you SO MUCH, more than anyone ever could! That's why I want to be with you 24/7!" and it just spins out of control from there. If this was Heather's first serious relationship (which I imagine it could be due to how young she was when she started it) she'd be especially vulnerable to these types of men. The fact he's not only forcing physical contact on her (especially something as intimate as kissing her forehead) but parading that fact publicly really makes me worry for Heather's overall safety. I really enjoyed Heather's videos and I will continue to enjoy them, so long as she escapes this man. If she stays with him I won't be able to bring myself to look at her again. Like watching an abused circus animal or something.

To any ladies reading this, especially the younger ones: pushing your boundaries, no matter how "nice" it appears, is never alright. If he's doing it in a small way now, he'll be doing it in a big way a year later. Take my word.

No. 739252

Tinfoil, but did the husband start this thread? The whole 'friends and family' shit makes it sound a bit like he could have.
Just a tinfoil.

I understand cheating to get out of an abusive relationship. I've been there, and I'm not proud of it. Not saying it's good, or excusable because he was abusive, just that I understand the mentality of 'well if I can't escape you, I'll make you hate me'. It's not a rational one, but it's fairly common. In my case my abuser demonised me afterwards for the cheating. Same here, but softer.

This is all just a massive tinfoil though - I don't know enough about the situation to paint her as the victim or say he's an abuser flat out.

No. 739261

>>739252
I absolutely believe he started this thread and I feel its obvious which posts were his. Look at how quickly the tone of this thread shifted once people that weren't him started looking at it

No. 739272

Saging because it's old milk and filled with my opinions, but from the amount of time I've been following Heather, Adam has always came off really strange. I'm not saying Heather's any better because she does have a tendency to share way too much information.

In the video linked at the first couple of minutes she tells Adam to calm down? She mentions how Adam will get a lot of fan girls for his Walking Dead cosplay (Which any time he goes to a convention he always dresses up as that guy?) Through the rest of the video he kind of awkwardly follows her around at times not really saying much. As for the over sharing part at like 11 minutes in she talks about having to need to find pads?

As for the recent drama in this thread I just find it strange how Adam changes his story and he comes off like a salty dude bro.

No. 739283

>>739272
I don't find saying she needs to buy pads oversharing? Almost all her viewers are other females. It really is not oversharing to imply she gets a period like most of us do. But yeah, I've been watching her videos for about 2 years and every time Adam has been in it it's felt really weird. Multiple times there's been snippets of Adam getting aggressive over absolutely nothing. It's quite striking to follow a channel that's quite relaxing and does cute videos about pastel coloured toys that has this weird angry guy just appear at times.

No. 739284

>>739283
maybe its just a personal opinion then haha but you do have a point!

No. 739288

Husband seems very manipulative. Those tweets where hes trying to act so calm and stable are incredibly thinly veiled. Him following her was already a huge red flag and im surprised he actually admit to that. And watched her have sex? Wtf? Very strange man.

He obviously drove her to the manic state shes in now and its to his advantage because to the outside she looks "crazy" but its obvious whats going on here. Especially since shes never been like this before. I feel bad for her, she needs to get away from his psycho ass.

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No. 739307

>>739305
Huh, calling yourself a good person is a pretty big red flag imo. All of these cows do it.

No. 739313

>>739305
This is absolutely what an abuser would say. Can you imagine if you were actually innocent and were accused of this stuff? You just would not send out shit like this

No. 739376

>>739305
tinfoil but this only furthers the theory that he started this thread himself, at least for me. maybe he's salty that the anons on her don't have him for the knight-in-shining armor-good-guy he thinks he is.

No. 739380

>>739272
>needing to buy pads is oversharing
>period talk is oversharing
Uh…are you 12 years old, anon?

No. 739384

>>739376
Lol maybe he did, actually. >>739272 this post and this >>739284 response catch my eye. The "ewww periods" thing makes me think this is a retarded man then getting passive and humble with the response after being called out by >>739283

Not only the period thing, but this quote
>he mentions how Adam will get a lot of fan girls for his Walking Dead cosplay (Which any time he goes to a convention he always dresses up as that guy?
with a link to one of her random videos is really specific. Why would any anon care that he always dresses up as some walking dead character at a convention? And the unsure question marks after the remarks are suspicious too.
>she tells Adam to calm down?
>he always dresses up as that guy?

Hm….

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>>739384
diff anon but i'll add that this post >>738798 is a candidate for his vendettaposting too.
first of, what does it have to do with anything from the thread? it's very nitpicky. and the description is odd, too ("this funny picture").

ALSO the fact that OP keeps talking about having aaaaalll these snapchat vids and stuff (here >>738779)
…and they don't post them or link them in any way, they're only descriptions of them (which we can't corroborate, so we have to take OP's word for it). according to OP, they've """accidentally deleted""" ONE of the snap story videos >>738792, which they proceed to describe in detail anyway. where are the rest of the videos OP? you didn't mention "accidentally" deleting THOSE, so why not post them?

and they SURE seem to have extensive screenshots and proof of the hubby's twitter rant and ig posts.

No. 739406

The thread was posted by a long-term Farmer with extensive post history. We have no reason to believe it was created by the husband.

No. 739430

>>739406
He may not have made the thread then but there are a few posts I suspect are his

No. 739449

>>739430
I checked the comments mentioned in >>739394 and >>739384, all the dubious comments were posted by Farmers.

In the future, please use the report system or use sage rather than bumping the thread with speculation.

No. 739453

>>738779
>>739394
OP said they can't find a place to host the videos. This girl posted nearly hour-long snap stories.

No. 739457

>>739449
I saged my initial tinfoil, didn't I? Thanks farmhand for the clarification.
Either way, these bitches be crazy. She's obviously very unstable and he can't deal with it without manipulating her. And vice versa.

No. 739505

OP here. I'm the one posting these caps of the husband's social media, and I'm only posting his because Heather's actually starting to screw her head on straight and isn't posting things like this. He's the one being embarrassing now.

And I legitimately don't know where to post a 500 MB, 38 minute video anonymously. Help me out here!

I agree, the husband now is making himself look like an ass and making Heather's condemnation of him more and more believable. I wrote up the original post about four weeks ago when I honestly wasn't following the husband's posts at all, just watching her pour her insane heart out on snapchat.

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No. 739512

>>739453
Your initial post was fine, I was referring to >>739430. No worries.

>>739453
>>738779
Dropbox should do the trick, but please make sure to summarize the content of the videos.

No. 739534

I was hoping I'd see a thread about her. She's an absolute trainwreck. She's so cringey, I feel bad for her for some of the stuff she's going through, but why does she act like she's 15 and some kind of bad bitch. In the urban explorer video she saw the I will not break the dress code on the chalk board and was like "haha, that's me, I totally broke the rules"! She seems really desperate for some kind of attention, but from who, I don't know.

No. 739602

Most people going through divorce after spending their whole life with someone they started dating before they even developed their identity have an embarrassing second puberty, unfortunately it's further amplified by the mania and how she has a public platform to overshare it on. She needs go get out so she can move on with her life.

>>739161
>muh twisted random mind
>what should I call my fans?
I'm sure the truth isn't all cut and dried, but I'll take team bipolar Sparkles over this self-aggrandising narc any day

No. 739611

>>739506
>self-caused problems

No. 739621

>>739507
I can’t lie, despite how complicated these situations are, if she doesn’t end up leaving him I’ll be pretty disappointed. The majority of anons saw what a scumbag this guy is and took her side. If the rest of the internet could see the same, she could drum up support and her channel might pick up enough interest for her to be self-sufficient.

She might fuck it up in a spectacular bipolar shitshow, but at least she would do so as an independent woman sans shitty egotistical mouth-breather.

No. 739656

>>739621
Hear hear anon! Well said!

Someone might be a cow, but being put in legit bad situations isn't healthy for said cow. Best milk and cream comes from a thriving beast who can do what they want.

No. 739667

>>739602
> She needs go get out so she can move on with her life.

Isn't that exactly what she's been doing a few times only just to have her husband stalk her and/or call the police?

No. 739670

>>739667

Exactly this. It seems like every time she tries to get out, some disaster happens that could be either self-sabotage or Adam-sabotage.

She's a cow for sure but, I mean, how do you move on from abuse without a support structure? There's going to be a dozen Adams that sound sweet until they stop getting their way, and she's obviously in a state where she'd grasp anything she can reach. If she gets out will she even get out somewhere safe? Her family's out of the picture, or I'm sure she'd have moved back in long ago.

No. 739693

>>739505
I recommend creating a gmail account and uploading the videos to your google drive. Then just set them to be public and post the link to it here. Hope this helps!

No. 739842

>>739602
Um, this is far more than a "second puberty" this is an abuse victim de-programming herself from her captor. It is extremely clear that is the case due to what the husband HIMSELF is saying!

No. 739845

>>739506
She's always been very open about the fact she was married up until recently.
>All while living with me, on my dime.
What happened to it being "our" home, SirOcelot? "Our" life, "our" income? Because it's not "our" its yours and it always has been. Let her go for fuck sake.

No. 739848

>>739506
> living on my dime

aaaaand there it is. no doubt he's controlled her money and/or income in a way. now i really hope heather stays out of that house for good.

No. 739887

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No. 739895

>>739887
If she stays with this cunt I'm honestly never watching another video of her's again. This guy is absolutely everything she has described. If she doesn't leave him she has absolutely no respect for herself and I don't get how she could expect her viewers to have it.

No. 739903

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Well Heather, you know what you gotta do.

No. 739906

>>739903
I hope he's serious about this and she cheats again to finish this off.
>I'm not a cruel person
He absolutely is. Surely Heather would be eligible for some sort of crisis support or disability due to her mental health problems? Something she could use to get her out of that house at least

No. 739908

>>739903

she doesn't want to be with you, ya fucking idiot. ugh, i'd donate to a heather gofundme at this point tbh.

No. 739911

Is anyone here friends with her on snapchat? Is she still posting to her story?

No. 739922

>>739908
I would also donate. I hope the only reason she hasn't done one is because she doesn't think it would work rather than she's still open to staying with this guy.

No. 739942

>>739922

It's definitely thinking it won't work. From her side of things, he's kept her dependent enough on him for irl things that she can only turn to the Internet, but the Internet isn't safe because he follows her everywhere.

I had one friend she'd kept on Snap, but it looks like she either purged strangers or her friends list. Shame, I'd add her to recommend the Gofundme thing, but Gofundme needs information that shows up publicly where Adam might see it. I think there are similar services, especially for women trying to escape abusive shitlords.

No. 739949

>>739942
>I had one friend she'd kept on Snap, but it looks like she either purged strangers or her friends list
You mean she kept one of your friends on her friends list but kicked you (and presumably a bunch of other strangers) off her list? Why'd she keep some but ditch others? She kept on waxing on and on about how she loves snapchat because she gets to interact with her fans and talk directly to them in snap videos, but after a while she said that she couldn't open anyone's snaps because she was too worried about what people were saying in response to her meltdowns on her story. She kept on promising that she'd open them and respond but she never did, and then apparently just deleted people. Guess her anxiety got the best of her.

No. 739951

>>739942
Whatever Adam is going to do he's going to do it whether she tries a gofundme or not. I honestly think she's starting to believe his lies that she has no case against him (when she really, really does, his own tweets have incriminated him to fuck)

I think Adam is in her ear whispering "You're just embarrassing yourself with this, delete all these people from your Snapchat"

Also how do we even know it was HEATHER that deleted people from her Snap? How do we know it wasn't actually ADAM who went on her phone and did it? He's mentioned her Snapchat a few times and clearly hates her being on it. Would not put it past him to go on her phone and delete people he feels like.

No. 739954

>>739942
She's still in my friend list on snapchat but I can't see her bitmoji avatar and I haven't seen her post to her story in weeks. Does that mean she removed me/blocked me? I have no idea how snapchat works.

No. 739956

>>739951
Good point, I bet Adam did something to her snapchat. He's apparently bugged her phone or installed a tracking app or something. Heather said he deletes her contacts.

No. 739960

>>739956
I really really believe it. Everything he tweeted is consistent with that. I can just imagine him, "I deleted her contacts to help her stop cheating to save our true and honest love!! I took time out of my own day to keep her on the straight and narrow, that's true love!"

No. 740018

>>739895
Lainey 2: Electric Boogaloo

No. 740037

>>739903
So they've been married for 5 years but he hasn't found the time to help her get her license and encourage her to get a low stress part time job at the least? Naahh of course not that would make it harder to keep someone absolutely fenced in. He sure is the victim of being used and abused!

No. 740085

>>739949
I don't use Snapchat, but the friend who was on her list said basically the same as >>739954. It gives the option to send a friend request, but I think she might've axed the entire account if the bitmoji thing is gone. I think that shows up if you have an account at all.

But I agree, apparently Adam tells her all the time that there are spies, which makes her suspicious of everyone. So she might have deleted people, or he might've deleted people.

No. 740176

>>740037
She clearly wanted to work, she seemed to put a lot of effort into her channel and tried to make money reselling and fixing old toys. Adam wasn’t even supportive of that.

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No. 740191

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I think she's added "I'm a mess" since yesterday.

No. 740210

>>740187
He looks like Ethan from H3h3

No. 740247

>>740191
Saging my little sperg here, but I'm a little irrationally angry at the highlighter in the middle of her fucking face. The whole look screams "I'm a mess" but that really triggers me.

No. 740248

https://www.dropbox.com/s/huphcnz1ykdr36x/HeatherS1.mp4?dl=0

>"We're gonna have a deep talk now"

>Spent a month talking to a guy online, stayed up late with him, he was "always coaching" her
>He picked apart everything she did or said, tried to change her social media
>She was so in love with him and wanted to impress him so she did what he suggested
>Meeting him made her want to hasten the divorce
>He would "ghost" her and then watch her on social media to see how she was reacting
>She found out he turned everyone she knew against her, tried to get her 302'd
>He received death threats from some people who found out who he was
>Thinks he turned everyone in her life against her "just to get his jollies"
>Heather says she wants to make a video talking about this
>He apparently reached out to her as a "psychiatrist-like figure"
>Met a new guy on Tinder after all this who would text her nice things, helped her move on from manipulative guy
>Friends are apologetic for trying to get her 302'd, said they were manipulated by this guy too
>Her content going downhill for two months was because of the manipulating
>Says she's not going to out him, doesn't give a shit anymore
>"Screw you Ryan. You're disgusting, and I hate you. Bye."
>She wasn't able to make money in October because of this situation, so now she says she's going to stock her Depop and try livestreaming for money
>"I know I'm a trainwreck but I hope I've been entertaining"
>@14:40 Adam comes in to explain his side of the story
>Heather has PTSD from some event in her past, and has OCD and anxiety because of it. Manipulative guy tried to convince Adam that Heather in fact had bipolar disorder and that she needed to be hospitalized
>Instead of contacting Adam directly, guy contacts a mutual friend named Ashley and says that Heather is sick and has either borderline or bipolar
>Since Heather is anti-med, guy told Adam to have her 302'd ("72-hour hold where they give her medicine. As the medicine enters her system, she will be more clear-headed")
>Heather spent ten hours in a "small white room with a piss stained mattress"
>Went in a confident woman, came out completely broken down
>Guy gave Adam specific instructions on how to present screenshots of Heather's conversations to the therapist
>Adam asks if Heather can forgive him, Heather says she can't
>Adam rests his head on her shoulder, she tells him to get off of her
>"I will never forgive any of you"
>"I'm alone in this world. Aside from the sparkle fam, who can I trust?"
>"I'm going to get out of here, I never want to see anyone in my life ever again after I get out, I'll never be able to trust anyone again"
>Adam says he is willing to tell Heather's therapist about everything that happened
>"I'm not happy, sad, happy, sad, I go from 'I just have to accept things' to 'I don't wanna accept things anymore'"
>"You can try to blame Ryan all you want, but at the end of the day, you and my friends are the ones that chose to do this to me"
>Adam defends himself, says that he was misled, Heather doesn't accept it
>Adam: "We thought this guy was a professional and we wanted to get you help"
>Heather: "Help for what? Because I wanted to leave you"
>Says she won't have friends after this, doesn't want to get close to anyone or think about boys
>"Do you have any final words to say after ruining my life?" "I love you." "And?" "And I'm sorry for everything that happened. You should've never been committed, that stuff should never have been given to your therapist, and I'm very sorry baby."
>Apparently Adam introduced Heather to people by saying she's bipolar
>Was suicidal in her teens
>She grew up depending on people
>Will never be married again
>Ends video with pep talk, says she's more confident than ever
>"A strong woman is one of the scariest things in the world to some people and it's so funny"

No. 740253

>>740248
Here's the first and longest story I recorded. I think the summary does a decent job at addressing key points but it doesn't cover everything. It's 38 minutes long, but I'd recommend at least watching the parts with Adam. He spends the whole time trying to look as innocent and apologetic as possible and Heather is having none of it.

I have three more videos, but uploading them and writing summaries takes a long time so I'm not sure when I'll have time to post them.

My apologies for the out of sync audio. I don't think any of the other videos have that issue.

No. 740256

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No. 740259

>>740247
Yeah, that metallic pink highlighter is terrible, and it's far too low on her cheeks.

No. 740292

saging for irrelevance but im >>739272
i dont really post to lolcow much im more of a lurker actually! (i like to lurk the artists threads when i have free time in particular!) ive just been following heather for awhile now (my sibling introduced me to heather and they were following her for a longer amount of time than i was they also lurk lolcow)
im actually a girl i just find period talk gross personally haha didnt know that was off putting? anyways back to lurking for me!

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No. 740321

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No. 740325

>>740319
Wacky astrology shit aside, I'm team heather. Idk what I'd do if my partner and friends were manipulated against me in such a severe way.

No. 740342

The cow of this thread is the husband, honestly. Remake the thread?

No. 740350

>>740292
Holy crap no wonder this girl is messed up!

No. 740366

Idk how you can pick teams when both are adults who are using social media instead of facing each other.
Either leave him or stop tweeting cause how you're almost 30 and Sit on your ass tweeting astrology instead of being a serious grown woman about your situation is beyond me and this is why you get a fucking (real) job even if you marry somebody with money.
Retards ffs
(Save money for a lawyer instead of dyeing your hair pink type shit)

No. 740381

>>740366
smells like selfpost

No. 740405

>>740381
Or an anon who keeps seeing this thread bumped with unsaged bs and its another case of 'Save the mentally deficient girl who was a cow but now is a damsel in distress cause shes with a shitty person that nulls out all cow like behaviour even tho part of what makes her a cow is her complete lack of judgement skills and dependency to social mediaaa'
The guy can choke and die too idc but these shit tier threads thats 90% saviour complex need to die. Tinfoil in OT.

No. 740452

>>740366
If you bothered reading the thread before posting you'd see Heather has clearly tried to resolve this "facing each other" many, many times and her husband just will not allow her to leave. It is extremely obvious she's leaking out onto social media because she simply does not know where else to turn, and her husband seems to cut her off from any personal friendships she has. Her husband has essentially forbidden her from working, and has made sure they live in a place where you NEED to be able to drive to get anywhere despite not helping Heather learn to drive his car. You seem to lack extremely basic empathy skills and don't understand what abuse and control is anon. Your comment about "use that $20 you spent on dying your hair to help maintain some sort of normality in your life on a lawyer" is fucking ridiculous.

No. 740479

>>740405
I'm glad I'm not the only one…

No. 740683

I've been following Heather on and off for a few years. Initially I liked her toy collection and BJD videos. However I found her channel to be depressing as fuck and unsubscribed. She was constantly talking down about herself. "I'm too boring", "I don't have any friends" "I need to lose weight." I recently started following her again when her newest toy room tour popped up in my recommended videos. One video she talks about her hoarding problem and says she's going to change. Then posts more flea market hauls. She says to be yourself blah blah blah. Then she posts a video about "The new, edgier me!' and wears tacky walmart-tier juniors clothes. Next video, she says she changed her materialistic ways. More hauls. All of a sudden she's back in fairy-kei(which was one of the reasons I subbed in the first place.) Admits to changing her style to try to get someone to like her after constantly preaching to her "sparkle fam" to be ~Uniques Sparkly Kawaii Unicorns~ Overall erratic behavior that is really sad. I don't mean that in a cruel way, I mean I actually felt sorry for her and couldn't watch because her content bums me out. Sometimes she forces the cheerful, cutesy personality and its obvious by her voice that she's dead inside. I'm a diagnosed bipolar and it can he debilitating. However I realize that it is my responsibility to get medication, therapy, or whatever help I need to be a functional person. I've been stable for a couple of years now because I didn't run away from the problem. It's an extremely difficult path to fight mental illness. I don't understand how constantly whining and looking for pity on social media platforms could actually help her get stabilized. I didn't even know about ANY of the husband/cheating drama because I've only seen her YT. Now I can see that she's having a manic episode because she lost a ton of weight and now feels validated as a person. Fix your mind instead of crash dieting to feel worthy. It seems like she had destructive coping mechanisms.

No. 740844

>>740452
See there goes the saviour complex, cause you stretch what is clearly an example as an abrupt statement.
Her toy money, her flea market money, all this money wasted on frivilous ass things including a fucking yt career(bitch be a greeter at wallmart u get more money and actual company to write on ur resume) of all shitty decisions, when she could have done anything else to help herself and the fucking shit shes in.
Shes seems co-dependent like her husband, wether that be the drama, scared of being alone, being emotionally retarded, they are both absolute drama lamas.
the PULL level ass eating is obnoxious and if you think one lacks empathy for finding this pearl clutching and arm chairing totally embarassing and out of touch then you live in a very cruel world. A sneeze of mental health issues don't compensate for your inability to be self sufficient (thats why we got inpatient or idk actually be in legit therapy for starters while also WANTING to get good) or own a back bone, its even harder to believe she wants one considering other anons have seen her act like a flake through her whole internet history. v a l i d a t i o n.
I will say it again I do not defend nor care for the husband because lol he is a degenerate but this whole thread is a weird echo chamber of conspiracies and saying y'all basically wanna pay for her to get out and get fixed. (Saviour compleeeeeex)

No. 740850

>>740844
if you stopped cutting yourself on that edge you'd realize even cows can be in abusive relationships where your partner isolates you to the point where finding a job isn't an option. she can't fucking drive and you want her to go to job interviews while having an abusive husband at home that doesn't want her to be independent? you're either very young or fucking retarded.

No. 740867

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No. 740958

>>740867
She's a lunatic, but this kind of shit is both crazy and evil

No. 741012

>>740867

>Can anyone talk sense into her


Idk man, you're a key contributor to her being convinced that nobody will ever be her friend, with the isolating and controlling and pushing people away. Why would she trust anyone coming to bat for this guy?

That said, I'm horrified that anyone is listening to him. And I used to keep tabs on her because the drama was funny. This is a guy who encouraged her to get into fad diets and into communities he knew she would either get booted from or feel ostracized from, or couldn't afford, because it helped keep her under his thumb. The vegan thing, the disordered eating, the anti-medication thing, the psychiatry is evil bullshit, the sparklefur with a persecution complex, all of that loses all of the amusement knowing that this manipulative scumlord feeds it. Her brief turnaround after she found out from her therapist that she wasn't at risk of getting locked up if she breathed wrong sounds like she's wanted therapy all along and he fed her anxiety, because even embellished by Heather, literally any therapist would be able to see a pattern. If anons can see he's full of shit from a rampage on twitter, the therapist is a total conflict of interests for him.

No. 741031

>>740844
U mad? No one is saying she’s not a cow. That doesn’t mean she isn’t mentally ill and in an abusive relationship.
>That’s why we got inpatient or therapy.
Those things are a luxury that cost a lot of money, which is strictly regulated by her abusive husband. But in >>740366 you said “spend money on a lawyer instead of pink hair dye,” like the $10k for a divorce lawyer is comparable to a $8 bottle of Splat. Like >>740850 said, you’re either really stupid or really young.

No. 741146

>>740452
Are you fucking kidding me? Do you think he's literally physically restraining her from getting a job, car, ect? I doubt that the situation is so dire considering she's dancing around in front of a camera showing us her toys and clothes that she constantly buys. They're both being childish with broadcasting their problems on social media, but come on…..How bad can this guy who constantly pays for her endless trinkets be? SOOOOO mentally abusive!

No. 741147

>>741012
Hi Heather.(Hi [cow])

No. 741177

>>741146
You DO realize that all forms of abuse isn't just black/white and that abusers aren't movie villains that twirls their mustache trying to figure out how to hurt their partner next? There is a reason that people stay with their abusers, and that is because they aren't mean all the time so you tell yourself that everything is fine and it's normal behavior. That is a part of the control and manipulation that goes into abusive relationships.

Not saying their relationship is 100% abusive, they're probably both toxic on each end, but I just get so tired when people don't understand how complex abusive relationships are and how hard it is to get out of them.

No. 741205

>>741146
You still seem to struggle grasping the basic concept of mental abuse. I assume you're either extremely young or just a fucking idiot. Buying someone a toy does not undo the pain (emotional or otherwise) you've inflicted on them.

>>740867
It fucking sicks me out seeing people support HIM in this.

>>740844
Right, so you've now suggested she goes back in time to unspend all those $3 shopping spees she's had at Goodwill to pay for a lawyer she should have predicted she would need. There is no "pearl clutching" or "arm chairing", this is a woman who is literally in an ongoing abusive relationship. You'd have a fucking heart attack if you saw what they Lainey threads used to be like.

>a sneeze of mental health issues

Firstly, she clearly has severe issues as she devotes her life to collecting old toys and fixating on them. That isn't exactly normal behaviour. Two, how the fuck do you know?! If she hides all her symptoms from social media you say she has a "sneeze" (lol) of mental health issues, but if any of it bleeds out you call her a child airing her laundry to the public. How the fuck would she get to therapy? She can't drive, she can't afford taxis, and her captor will not let her go. She also can't afford it. If you have such a problem with this thread existing stop posting and go elsewhere.

No. 741214

>abusive relationships are complex!!!
>nobody stated otherwise, just that the babying is way too much and you all sound like 15yr olds who think their arm chair analysis will somehow help or even change a situation only she (or possibly)her family can do anything about.
>derails entire thread just to chimp out about how bad she has it and how she has no help and any anons posting otherwise is a dumbass and/or child
>screeches that all systems are broken(which means its even further up to her own volition)

Go to your local womens shelters if you care so much about abuse, but do not sit on your ass while two mentally deranged people fling internet shit on twitter at each other and start to over indulge in how bad ones situation could be.
The newfaggotry Is a red flag too, considering half of the sympathy spergs cant sage.

No. 741264

>>741205
>Firstly, she clearly has severe issues as she devotes her life to collecting old toys and fixating on them. That isn't exactly normal behaviour.
So collectors are severely mentally ill? I'd suggest you rethink your position. Heather clearly has a mental illness or two but collecting isn't one of them. It is most certainly normal human behavior.

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No. 741270

Looks like Heather deactivated her Twitter about 10 hours ago. Anyone know if something went down?

No. 741295

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>>740321

This guy is the true cow.

I dont believe in astrology but its obvious LOL SATURN isnt the only reason she would want to leave him. If she gets her strength from believing in this mumbo jumbo, then more power to her. I hope she can get out of this situation and get some help.

Its fucked up he was able to gaslight her friends and family into thinking shes the problem and not him.

No. 741305

Its obvious to me this guy is abusive. But heres some highlights Ive pulled from an article "Domestic Abuse Warning Signs"

>Your partner bullies, threatens, or controls you:

>Accuses you of having an affair
>Blames you for abuse
>Criticizes you
>Tells you what to wear and how you should look

>Your partner controls your money:

>Keeps cash and credit cards from you
>Puts you on an allowance and makes you explain every dollar you spend
>Keeps you from working whatever job you want

>Your partner cuts you off from family and friends:

>Keeps close tabs on where you go and whom you go with
>Makes you ask for an OK to see friends and family
>Embarrasses you in front of others, and it makes you want to avoid people

>source: https://www.webmd.com/mental-health/mental-domestic-abuse-signs#1


He checks off too many of these for this to be a healthy relationship. And these are just the ones that are aired publicly. Who knows if he physically or sexually abuses her

Of course relationships like these cause a slew of mental health problems for the victim, so no wonder Heather lashes out and has issues. I've seen her around but I've never followed her, so I'm not sure what her milk actually is.

No. 741309

>>741295
>he was able to gaslight her friends and family into thinking shes the problem and not him
In the snap story video, he and Heather both seem to come to the agreement that it was this Ryan guy that actually did the gaslighting, and Adam just went along with it.

No. 741334

So much infighting about who is in the wrong. Am I the only one who things they are both nuts?

Since a lot of this has been (rightfully) focused on her shitty husband, what about Heather's milk? There is something incredibly off with her. She talks in a very rambling, unstructured, self-centered way and also appears to be incredibly superficial and pretentious (even when she was "ugly and fat"). She seems to have an identity crisis ever couple of months and after spending hundreds to thousands on specific hobbies or fashions, she then ditches them for a new identity. She also seems like either a mild hoarder or as though she is handling possible mental issues in a harmful, destructive way. If you look at some of her old videos, she apparently had a lot of drama in her old BJD hobby. Now she is having drama with her local(?) youtuber community as well as issues with dating people. Just watching how she reflects on the guy who she thought was "the love of her life" after a couple of months shows that she has a very skewed perception of reality. She is really messy and unable to keep her shit in check, which is why I am wondering if she is at least on the spectrum.

I'm not sure how true this is since it was an anon itt who brought this up, but not being able to drive is not an excuse for not getting a job. She is putting all of her eggs in the YT basket (not just financially but also for friendships/attention) which is incredibly irresponsible, especially for someone at her age. It is pretty clear she that is super codependent and not wanting or willing to be her own person, despite rambling about how no one will keep her down.

Whatever is happening in her relationship, she is not handling things well. I don't know the details about her family, but there ARE resources if you are in an abusive relationship. Her husband is a power hungry narc. But, she is mooching off of him instead of trying to be an independent adult. If she stays with him at this point, it will be very telling about what kind of person she is. She HAS to learn to be her own person. If she has been piddling about wanting a divorce for ages, why isn't she just doing it? She could always go to a women's shelter to at least get out of the house and try a staffing agency to get a job.

IDK people saying they want to do a gofundme and shit is really weird when her choices are what landed her in this position. Something is totally off with her and while sympathizing with an abuse victim makes complete sense, this who situation with the both of them reads as each side is toxic.

No. 741357

>>741334
They are both nuts but one is also evil and holding the other one hostage.

No. 741358

>>741295
There are people in this thread that still think the problem is her or that she is in any way "deserving" of this even after seeing what he has publicly written purely because they hate the idea that they're wanting to get lols out of someone desperately trying to escape an abusive situation. People will always choose the explanation that makes them feel better about themselves.

No. 741403

>>741147

Good try detective anon, have you seen anything she does? If Heather found this thread it'd be all over her social media.

No. 741792

>>741270
She’s probably reformulating her next new identity. What do you think comes next? Guess we’ll find out in a few hours!

No. 741815

I've watched a few minutes of her older videos and I think she is VERY sheltered, and maybe a little bit slow. She's having some delayed teenage rebellion right now and her husband is obviously freaking out because he thought he had a sheltered dumb pet for life.

I think he's the cow here.

No. 742068

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Weird flex. Also Heather doesn't have a bank card.

No. 742123

>>742068
>I want our relationship to work!
>She doesn't understand how much I love her!
>Keeps on trashing her online

Ummm….

No. 742157

>>742068
Good god, why does he keep posting personal shit like this? Let it go, dude.

>As much as I want to be a douche

Wow, this says everything about him. He's already being one and has been which is why she doesn't want you anymore, man.

No. 742162


No. 742174

>>742162
This is an imageboard, you useless nigga.

No. 742234

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He's just so weird. The way he talks about her channel like he's in charge of it. I hope she can and does get out of this marriage. I kind of wonder if he's trying to start drama so that he can build his following through it all. If she leaves, no one will know of him or care about him.

No. 742457

>>742234
I don't think he particularly cares about getting a following, I think he only cares about taking them away from Heather, even if that means he has to lead them away from her. It's why he was posting about making a youtube video too. It is nothing more than to show Heather he will invade every space she has.

>>742162
Good job idiot, the archive doesn't work and the post has been deleted.

No. 742479

>>739196
Is he religious?
This is the same method used by a lot of creepy religious men to try to trap their wives into staying despite the emotional and sometimes physical abuse.

No. 742484

>>742479
He claims to be an atheist, but I would be willing to bet it's something he picked up from finding reasons to attack religious people.

>>742234
I think he's making a point about how much control he has over her life. It could read either way, like "who even WANTS to see Heather do this creepy edgelord thing" or "hey who wants to see it so I can exploit it / immediately make it not fun for her."

If she's holed up in her room with the tinsel recording, he's not part of it other than being oh-so-gracious about paying for the apartment he signed for. He probably edited some of her videos at some point and thinks anything she's done on her own since then is proof she needs him. But if she went exploring and looking for ghosts and shit like that, he has to be her ride, he won't let her sneak off somewhere abandoned without him where she can get hurt or escape.

No. 742562

>>739903
I went through the same shit as Heather and honesty I don't blame him if he actually went through with it and kicked her to the curb, but he won't because he's a beta cuck. She's being a fucking moron trying to get him to push her away because he literally won't, he'll cling to her until she actually gets the gumption to leave. Which she won't because that means drastically changing her lifestyle for a good while (yep thats what divorce does kids) so they're going to be just flinging shit at each other until heat death of the universe happens. No I don't support him because he's a fucking moron pissbaby crying to twitter his wife is fucking someone else and not having the balls to divorce, but Heather sure as fuck isn't some uwu helpless victim when she has literally thousands of followers who would be more than willing to get her out of this situation.

No. 742854

>>742484
Honestly, I’m married and if I told my husband I was going to an abandoned building film he’d be legit worried about me. There could be methed out squatters or the place can be physically hazardous. He’d probably insist to go along. I’d be worried about him if he was doing some impulsive, possibly unsafe activity as well. Being married means each party is responsible to look out for the others’ welfare. If her marriage was so toxic don’t you think she’d spend YouTube earnings on something more important? Lawyer, temporary pace to stay, buying a health care plan for herself for when the divorce is final, ect? No way, what’s more important is going to get new clothes and beauty items to film a haul for her sparkle fam! It’s like she is so obsessed with her new image that she’s not thinking about her actual life and future.

No. 742871

>>742854

I mean, I'm married too, but you just described several things that are either common sense or that very, very clearly don't apply to these chucklefucks. If my wife told me she wanted to go to an abandoned building to explore and film, I would worry about exactly those hazards, and if we went it would be with a group, and I wouldn't silently let her play up the danger for views - because there's no way her Youtube revenue would cover medical bills if she got hurt. I sure as hell wouldn't go on a Twitter tantrum about not getting adequate credit for filming her doing stupid things, especially if I were in Adam's position, where he's also telling the Internet how crazy she is. If she's having some kind of mental break, I wouldn't be her ride to an abandoned place to film edgelord clickbait.

>Being married means each party is responsible to look out for the others’ welfare.


While this is a true statement, the fact that this thread went from Heather being a lolcow to her 30s-whatever husband being a manipulative abusive douche more or less makes the statement not apply.

Her marriage is obviously toxic. Read literally any of the caps from either of them. You don't cheat on someone in a healthy marriage, you don't refuse to divorce someone who asks, and you don't stalk your spouse to watch them cheat on you with some Tinder guy in a healthy marriage. She's not doing things that are levelheaded or rational, because she's not only not in control of her own finances (see above, no bank card) but she's not in control of her life. If she thinks the only way she can make any money is appealing to the "sparkle fam", of course she's going to spend the peanuts Youtube gives her on instant gratification shit, because that's literally all she knows how to do. This is a girl who can't even drive or keep her phone private.

No. 742960

>>742871
there's pretty advanced spyware out there. All her husband would need is an hour with her phone to install it.

No. 744542

Impossible to side with any of those two they're both at fault Heather is a parasite with no purpose in life and he's an enabler.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 745141

ive always thought adam was really strange too. and heather definitely over shares and worries too much about weird stuff (she deleted an entire video and put up an apology on instragram because she didnt notice there was some bird poop on a desk she thrifted)

No. 745144

>>739384
i actually thought it was funny they mentioned he always cosplays walking dead guy because its something ive noticed too. ive seen her go to like 10+ conventions and every time he cosplays as negan. i thought it was kind of funny actually and agree ive always thought he was weird

No. 745766

I have been following heather for about a year and watched all this go down. On her snap rants I swear she talked about when adam stalked her to this tinder guys house he actually filmed her having sex? Adam also works with computers so it wouldn't surprise me if he had the know how to bug a phone

No. 745782

I use to follow her and watched as a lot of this went down before she blocked me. I think this is all for attention, but if her followers are mostly younger people then it doesn't make sense to do it like this. Also, talk about an unhealthy marriage. I watched the video with Adam apologizing and that made me sick. Heather saying he ruined her life, but it seems like they're both toxic and need to get their shit together. Heather needs to grow the fuck up, she's almost 30 and lacks basic life skills with no real good reason for that, and Adam is just bad at being a husband and human being. I feel zero love between these two and only a need for constant validation from people online. Can't choose sides in this situation, they're both fucked up and wrong for different reasons.

No. 745890

New users, please read the rules and usage guide before posting. Don't bump the thread without providing new information.

No. 751601

Around 9 minutes in, Heather starts to address how she interprets being on lolcow.

Also vid is about her supposed best friend ever who she lost- that she only knew for a couple of weeks. Wew.

No. 751614

>>751601

Atleast she says she is planning to move out in the next months, get a car and a job. Also talks about deciding not to be a 'people pleaser' anymore and not 'relying on solely one person'. Good on her actually trying to break up with Adam. I can see her taking jabs at him by saying she bought the camera with her own money etc though I can really tell how socially inept/lonely she is because of how she considers someone she knows for 2 weeks her 'best friend'.

No. 751677

>>751601
It's pretty unfortunate for her that the thread is the first thing that pops up when you google her name.

No. 751852

>>751677
Yea it looks like someone SCO'd to make this thread pup up on searches its 4th down for me. I'm surprised that this isnt a KF worthy thread

No. 751854

>>751852
Sorry I'm dumb, what does SCO and KF mean?

Also sage next time.

No. 751860

>>751854
basically buying advertising to boost it in searches

And KF is Kiwifarms, it's part of lolcows

No. 751861


No. 751873

>>751860
Kiwifarms is not part of lolcow.farm.
Also: https://lolcow.farm/info

No. 752229

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Well that's awkward.

No. 752239

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more news at 11

No. 752241

Adam cheating on heather now? Girl leave him now!

No. 752242

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get your small dick away from my best friend loser

No. 752245

>>752242
Is this you Heather…?

No. 752248

i'm not heather. my friend was talking to him on sc and now he's posting heather agian

No. 752249

>heather shames him for his small peepee
She really wants to get rid of him and he's out here trynna find waifu 2.0.

LEAVE HIM HEATHER

No. 752250

>>752247
How did he get to know her if you dont mind me asking? I hope she isnt underage, the way he worded 'because im older' makes me worry about that

No. 752251

Adam very genuinely creeps me out. I wish someone would call him out more publicly for his weirdo controlling behavior.

No. 752254

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this dude is such a creep

No. 752255

>>752251
I dont know why he is so persistent with wanting to stay with Heather. She doesnt like him and from the sound of the snapchats he doesn't like her so much. Is it a power thing? idk

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No. 752257

>>752254
Of course he is a naturist. What a pervert

No. 752258

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No. 752259

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No. 752260

she likes (liked idk) heather and msged him for support when they split. she was real excited bc he moved real quick like within days of texting they were official. and now hes posting this heather shit again. men have no loyalty

No. 752261

>>752256
Anon please tell us the whole back story

No. 752262

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hes like 33 out here trying to play with younger womens minds but in reality adam is just a desperate creeper with a tiny penis

No. 752263

>>752260
I wonder if Heather knows about all this. He might have done this out of retaliation from when she cheated on him

No. 752264

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No. 752265

>>752264
I am glad your friend isnt involved with him anymore, from reading this thread you probably realise he is a toxic person

No. 752279

i knew he was a toxic person from watching heather but my friend didnt. she was extatic but i told her to watch out. i made her send me everything bc i dont trust him 😂😂 dude stop hitting on girls 10 years younger before your dick pics get out one day ✌️

No. 752299

>>752260
Anon, where is he posting "Heather shit"? It's not on his instagram or snapchat.

No. 752302

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>>752299

He frequently posts "Heather shit" on his Facebook, which is really fucking annoying to the point of me snoozing him on there. I don't understand because one day it's complaining about how lonely he is and how he wants to move on, then the next moment he's talking about how he wishes things could be how they were a few months ago when they were so in love, and that he's going to win her back. I'm really close to unfriending the dude, but he barely shows up in my feed as it is.

No. 752303

>>752279
Is your friend that person who messaged Adam on Twitter? Emily or something?

What's your friend's opinion of him now? Have you shown her the thread? Tbh the fact that she is talking about being in a relationship with Adam even though she's "rooting for him and Heather" doesn't exactly make her look great. Add that to her thinking that it's totally fine for a married dude to go from strangers to long distance relationship material in a matter of days, and she's not seeming like the brightest.

No. 752304

>>752299
Whoops, meant twitter, not snapchat

No. 752307

>>752302
Keep him anon, I feel like he'll be a good source of milk in the coming months with the divorce and everything.

No. 752308


No. 752309

>>752308
Compared to how much he posted/tweeted about her just a few weeks ago, I guess I didn't really consider one post to be a lot of Heather. He's really dialed back on the crazy rambling tweets and shit.

No. 752320

>>752309
Yeah but posting about how much he loves her when he's supposedly dating this snapchat girl is a new revelation.

No. 752395

>>752389
I definitely got the impression that she was the one driving friends away. I always suspected it was because she comes on so strong. You know, calling this most recent friend that she "lost" her most perfect best friend ever after only knowing her for a couple weeks. Would you agree with that depiction?

Also could you elaborate on the friendship you had with her (without outing yourself, of course)? More specifically the end of it. How close were you, and why do you think she blocked you?

No. 752398

I was friends with Heather at one point. I fell victim to being blocked on every social media platform we were friends on after checking up on her to make sure she was okay. So it's quite funny how she droned on about losing friends in her most recent video, trying to play the victim, when she's the reason she's losing friends.

I was a newer friend of hers. I, too, was a "best friend" according to her, up until October. It seems like she has a lot of "best friends" and loses them just as quickly as she makes them.

I was also a friend who was included in a long list of people that she claims tried to have her locked up in a mental hospital, when all I did was suggest she get help. That tells you a lot about her mental state. It doesn't seem like she's gotten any better.

No. 752400

>>752398
When you hear her say things like "I will never forgive any of you" and "I never want to see anyone in my life ever again after I get out, I'll never be able to trust anyone again," is she referring to you? Do you know how many other friends were telling her to get help, and if any of them were actually as abusive as she's making it out to be?

No. 752403

>>752395

I apologize for deleting my post and reposting. I had more to add and didn't see that I had been replied to.

I would agree with you. I would chalk that up to her obvious lack of social skills. She latches on to anyone who pays attention to her.

We were close, but she never really seemed to want to open up to me, even when I showed concern. Her response was to block me even though I told her I was worried. That doesn't feel like something one does to their best friend.

No. 752407

>>752403
Definitely not. Was she exhibiting any behaviors that you told her you were worried about that haven't been mentioned already? I'm the op and only started following her erratic behavior around the end of October, so I'm not privy to what happened before.

No. 752408

>>752400

I believe I am one of the people she's referring to, yes. I don't know how many other people she could be referring to, but a handful at least.

I can only speak for myself because I don't know her other friends as well, but I certainly was never abusive in any way towards her. She seemed very sensitive and I took that into account with her.

I've accepted that we won't ever be friends again. As long as she believes that we have to apologize to her for what was going on (which is what I get from her saying she'll never forgive us) tells me that she's not taking responsibility for her actions.

No. 752409

>>752407

For a few days leading up to her blocking me, she would post cryptic statues on Facebook. After a while, she'd post about how she and Adam were getting divorced and she was afraid of being homeless. I do not live close to her, but within reasonable driving distance and I was willing to help her out if needed but before I was ever able to offer help, she would delete the status. She did this multiple times, which is why I reached out to her via messenger. I also mentioned that instead of airing it out on Facebook, she should talk to someone. Instead of getting a reply, I got blocked. I went to Instagram to message her there and was blocked there as well. I have not followed her Twitter or Snapchat, but it feels like I am better off.

No. 752410

>>752408
>>752409
Do you know anything about this Ryan guy that she and Adam are blaming for manipulating everyone? I was under the impression that she was blocking the people involved with that whole fiasco, but it sounds like you were removed from that situation.

I'm sorry, but who posts cryptic statuses implying that they might soon be homeless and then blocks people who reach out to them about it? I'm sorry you were met with that reaction from her. It really does seem like she doesn't treat her friends very well, or at least that she throws the term "friend" around very lightly.

No. 752414

>>752408
This is all coming from someone that hasn't spoken to her in months and took Adams side saying she was bipolar and needed to get help. No, she shouldn't have "aired" everything out on her Facebook but it was her cry for help because there were multiple people trying to get her locked up in a mental hospital.

No. 752416

>>752414
Nayrt, but where did anon say they thought she was bipolar? Are you suggesting her behavior on facebook wouldn't have warranted a friend to be worried and to suggest they get help? Anon said Heather blocked her right after that. Why would she do that if her "cry for help" resulted in a friend expressing concern? What other reaction was she hoping to get?

No. 752418

I took no sides. I was concerned, was blocked, and washed my hands of the situation. We weren't that close to begin with so I'm not sure why I ever would've called someone bipolar that I don't know well?

I was mostly an outsider looking in. We talked a lot but had never actually met, yet I was willing to drive a few hours to help her out.

As stated before, she is the reason she is losing friends.

No. 752420

>>752414

If that was her cry for help, and anon reached out to help her, how exactly is anon the bad guy in this situation?

Suggesting that a friend seek psychological help when they seem mentally off isn't a bad thing at all. If anything, that makes them a better friend for noticing and caring that much instead of encouraging Heather to continue her life damaging behavior.

No. 752421

>>752410

I do not know who Ryan is, but I assumed he was another Youtuber she had linked to once. It wasn't too hard to piece together, but outside of that I don't know anything about him.

From the sounds of it, they want to blame everyone except themselves for their problems.

No. 752456

>>752420
Heather said and her husband admitted that the Ryan guy was manipulating them and other friends of hers and pretending to be some type of therapist qualified to determine whose unstable and who isn't. They were getting her friends involved and making a file of selected messages she sent and trying to tell her therapist, who she was forced to go to, that she had this problem the Ryan guy was pushing. Seeing as how her husband seems to also be a creepy and controlling guy, I'd believe it when she said on snapchat that he followed this guys instruction to to get her medicated and how that will somehow save the marriage.

She went over board with too much posting but also ended up being really paranoid because she had no idea who to trust since her husband was using her friends, and apparently fans and family, against her. She has issues already, she said she pretended everything was fine with the marriage which is why her friends would side with the husband on what he said if she acted different. Anon had good intentions but seeing as how the situation was blocking people she thought were involved was the choice that made the most sense to her.

No. 752458

>>752456
Just to correct the record a bit, Heather has said that she's going to a therapist of her own accord. She's not being forced. She's being forced to go to marriage counselling.

No. 752466

I'm going to be 100% frank here: I have not posted to this forum yet. Until now, obviously. I was given a link to this page by a "friend" who has since deleted me from Facebook and Instagram. This may give away who I am, but I'm honestly tired of the drama and don't care.

I was friends with both Heather and Adam. We met at a convention earlier this year. Heather and I had talked through Instagram and decided to meet up. We hit it off immediately and even hung out a couple of times after.

I never picked up on anything being wrong. I did notice that she required a lot of validation from strangers (followers and subscribers) but I figured that was just the side effect of YouTube being her only real outlet.

Everything was fine until she started to post strange statuses to Facebook. Naturally, I was worried. I sent her a message, but only after Adam had contacted me. He told me his side of things, okay fine. I messaged Heather after and told her that maybe seeking a therapist was a good idea, but that I was available to talk whenever she needed. It sounded like a good idea at the time. This was before I knew anything about her infatuation with Ryan, and I did meet the man once, but there was no way he could manipulate or influence me because I didn't know him outside of the one time we met.

Instead of responding to me, she blocked me.

It was late, so I went to bed. The following morning, I got a phone call from Adam. I won't go into detail, but I even told him I wasn't picking a side. Heather was my friend. Adam was my friend. I was getting dragged into a mess that I wanted nothing to do with.

This all happened a week after I offered to give Heather driving lessons, because she sounded like she wanted to finally take on some real adult responsibilities and I was so excited for her that I wanted to help.

Adam was the only one I had contact with after this. I tried to contact Heather, but she was clearly done with me. Still, I wasn't bashing her or Adam. Adam would vent to me, yes, but that was it. I was there to listen because the whole situation seemed really messed up from all sides, but I had very little input. I honestly wanted zero to do with it.

As stated before, I was given this link by someone who I am apparently no longer friends with because, like Heather, she has deleted me on everything. I read through the comments back then and honestly thought it was interesting to read all these different perspectives.

I haven't watched her videos and I can't follow her on social media since she has me blocked. All I know is what mutual friends have been telling me, but I've told them all not to bother me about it anymore. It sounds like Heather is sabotaging her friendships and I wish she wouldn't. If she leaves Adam, these friendships will be all that she has, but she choosing to burn bridges instead of mending them. I cant say that I'll ever be her friend again, but I hope she gets help where she needs it and that her friends and followers encourage her to do some real self-reflecting.

No. 753120

Christmas is a bit in the way, and I'm hesitant to show screencaps of DMs because it's obvious who they're coming from, and honestly I think I'm blocked on Facebook by both parties so my name would be the only one visible. Either way, I'm sure they're both watching this thread, so it won't be hard for either of them to guess who I am. We were friends for years, although I mostly fell out of contact with Heather around 2015 or so.

But anyway, I can confirm Adam will make any excuse possible to get seen as totally harmless while trying to get nudes out of people he calls friends and, according to Heather, this is something he used against her. Which might explain some of her paranoia, because if their shared friends are doing things she finds intimate with him/things she wouldn't be comfortable sharing with anyone, then it does seem like validating her fears. Heather and I have different views on nudity that won't ever match up, but as a result she and I didn't talk about this kind of thing much.

I was tight on money for a while and was talking about doing pinups and that kind of thing for extra cash, because I knew a handful of women who did that kind of thing and the bar is not that high. People will pay for videos of women stepping on fruit in slowmo barefoot. Since Adam played up the harmless and giving advice angle, and since I do know a handful of married guys who legit aren't creepy about that, we talked some about streaming and camming and pinups, what sites to use, camera equipment, whatever. Some of his advice was useful, some of it got a little weird sometimes.

I guess worth noting in here is that he'd also made a big fuss over the years about being a nudist, and how stifled Heather made him because he couldn't be naked in his own home. I'm kind of a nudist myself, so we sometimes talked about that kind of thing too. We went with my partner to a nude beach in Cali, and it seemed fine enough. No contact or anything, so I did see it as legitimately just hanging out naked with friends. This was a few years ago, and I was in a badish way, so I took his assurances that it wasn't weird at face value. Anon is dumb.

Anyway 2018, the pinups and cosplay for side money topic came up, and he wanted in, and made some suggestions. Characters and settings, that kind of thing. These suggestions got less on brand with what I was willing to do and more creepy. He wanted to be in the photos with me, he wanted characters I don't cosplay, things that sounded suspicious because even if he weren't married, it's stuff Heather would find if I posted it anywhere. (Things like My Little Pony; outside of the obvious, how do you do a photoshoot with someone in cosplay, with no actual costumes, and then expect to make money off of it if you can't post it anywhere? It's not like Heather wouldn't know what he looks like, and it's not like I was keeping the possible side job secret.)

Ultimately, we didn't do any shoots, in part because I'm not in their state, in part because I lucked out and one of my other friends helped me make ends meet in the interim. But deflecting made Adam more persistent and creepy. Being told that I wasn't going to do something that Heather would be upset over just had him assuring me that he's the one who would get in trouble. This, mind, after I haven't been able to talk to her in a few years, much less openly. I eventually stopped replying much and didn't pursue the shoots I'd already planned or had supplies for.

Anyway, Heather and I eventually got back in contact because of all this current drama. Honestly, I thought he was trying to sabotage the marriage and get her to leave him, because why are you going for a married lesbian who's never wanted you, but then all… this.

I don't know why he's still framing himself like he's super faithful and super upstanding and wouldn't ever cheat on her, because the marriage was in shambles years ago. When things started going south, I guess a month ago around when this thread got made, he blocked me on Facebook after I hadn't talked to him since the last time he popped in my DMs asking about lewd photos. So there's that tea, I guess.

No. 753135

>>753120
Screenshots?

No. 753154

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>>753135

I mean, here's a few from May/June. I don't really have time this week to comb through everything. But just as some corroboration to my post.

Dates bolded.

No. 753194

>>753154
I honestly didn't expect this much milk to come out of this thread when it first started, who knew all of this was going on behind the scenes, and what else has yet to be uncovered

No. 753210

>>753120
Woooooow. Good lord. Adam is SUCH a creep. Why did he think being so pushy about this with you was okay??

Did he ever come on to you? Like obviously wanting to be in a naked photoshoot with someone, lesbian or not, is sexual for a man. But did he ever outright try to hit on you? It blows my mind that he acted like this with women while pulling the whole "I can't believe Heather cheated on me, I would never cheat" bullshit.

No. 753214

I find it astonishing that at least 4 people who have had direct contact with Heather and Adam have come to this thread to dish deets. I think that really speaks to how obvious and egregious their actions have been to their friends lately. They're both shady people with next to zero filter and everyone around them knows it.

No. 753223

>>753154
Heather if you are reading this fucking get out of there asap and never contact this dude again, what the fuck is this shit

No. 753295

>>753120
>Since Adam played up the harmless and giving advice angle, and since I do know a handful of married guys who legit aren't creepy about that, we talked some about streaming and camming and pinups, what sites to use, camera equipment, whatever. Some of his advice was useful, some of it got a little weird sometimes.

What? Why the fuck would you ask him about this? Had he previously told you he used those sites or something? If not this is extremely inappropriate and strange

No. 753328

>>753154
yall need jesus

No. 753373

>>753295

Why would I ask a computer-savvy guy who used to frequent 4chan and otherwise gave camera and webhosting advice about a topic that I posed to most of my friends for further advice after he volunteered information about it? You find that creepy, and not him wanting to paint an apple on his ass and cross the incredibly obvious line in the sand between "hey you speak cameras, can you give recs" and "Hey let's do a porn shoot together my wife doesn't have to know"?

>>753210

I am incredibly blind to that kind of behavior, but other people have mentioned it was a thing. He would backpeddle that he wasn't flirting sometimes, and with a lot of people I know, that's not too unusual. That said, those people don't later progress into this kind of behavior, and those people are also usually either younger than me or in theatre, or both.

So tl;dr, yeah, he creeped hard. And I'm someone he didn't realistically have a chance with, because me being gay isn't new information, and neither is me being married. So I can't really imagine what other behavior he might've done over DMs with random girls.

No. 753376

>>753373
>I can't really imagine what other behavior he might've done over DMs with random girls
Well hey, we got to see what he said to one girl here >>752239

This guy is pretty predatory from what I'm seeing.

No. 753378

>>753373
"we talked some about streaming and camming and pinups"
This could mean you talked about a lot more than just camera advice. And to some people, yeah bringing up the topic of potentially taking nude pictures of yourself and posting them online is not something to be brought up with male friends unless you know and are okay with them wanting to see them/get off to the photos. Most men want to see most women naked.

No. 753384

>>753378

It could mean that, or… it could mean what it says on the tin? We talked about the fact that there are girls who stream in cosplay or barely-cosplay, and that people bid on actions or outfits or whatever, we talked about the fact that I know girls who made money off of dash cam eating in their cars, or that there are people with interest in long hair, or in feet, or in shoes.

It's a topic that isn't unusual within my friend circles. Ultimately, what my interest was in would have been things that didn't involve actually being naked, which was where he got pushy about being involved and the nakedness nonsense.

Also it's not my problem if he wants to see women naked. But where my problem came into play was where he wanted to see me naked, behind Heather's back, knowing we were friends. That's fucked up. Trying to cheat on your wife with your mutual friends when you're also supposedly friends with that person's spouse is fucked up.

Most men want to see most women naked, but don't then parade around talking about their sparkling virtuous faithfulness points.

No. 753389

>>753385
The explanation helped, thanks. Yeah, if he was the one bring up the nude thing and making the conversations about that, that's super creepy and not at all on your end.

No. 753510

i posted the snapchats and i confirm he always brought up nudity and was obsessed with it
he asked my friend detailed questions about nudism all the time like scenarios if she would want them or not
and asked for nudes because nudity means nothing to him but still insisted
i might post more snapchats after the holidays

No. 753526

>>753373
how does being computer savvy and being on 4chan mean he'd know fuck all about shooting erotic stuff for cam sites????? it sounds like to some extent you're trying to convince yourself you've done nothing wrong, it was extremely inappropriate to ask a married platonic male friend about cam girl stuff unless he specifically said to you he was into cam girl sites. I dunno if you hoped he'd be a potential cash cow but its weird as fuck.

No. 753561

>>753526

Anon, yes, he specifically volunteered the information about cam girl sites. Because he was openly into that stuff. Because he talked about what kind of lewd shit got good traction on other sites, and about what sites he went to, and what other channers enjoyed. His openness about knowing about that kind of thing was literally why it was a thing we discussed.

And as I've mentioned previously, we talked about streaming in cosplay, or categories that aren't specifically erotic but that people pay money for, like eating McDonalds in your car on camera, or brushing long hair. For some reason people pay for videos of that. Being computer savvy–and, you know, the fact that he's been involved with Heather's channel–meant he could give advice on computer shit, video processing software, camera tips, incredibly normal stuff that could be applied to filming for those sites.

I'm sure I did things wrong along the way, but it reads like you're desperately digging for a way to find that and trying to absolve a 33yo man of his part in actively trying to go behind his wife's back. I asked publicly on multiple platforms for advice about streaming, including streaming art, or sewing, or whatever the fuck else, because I might as well get versatile equipment. Of my guy friends, approximately two turned out to be creepy about it, with Adam being the winner for Most Creepy and also the most invested in it being porn. He's the one who wanted to do the filming and be in it with me, which I wanted exactly none of.

I hoped he'd have camera advice and possibly put me in touch with other people who knew about that kind of thing, which is what most of my other married friends did, male or female. I speak costuming and photography, but I don't speak film or video editing. In literally the same vein, another friend who likes playing around with special effects makeup and lives off a lake offered to do a mermaid/siren shoot because we wouldn't have to pay for lakeside camping somewhere being topless or mostly-topless could be an issue. That guy friend was extremely insistent that if we do the shoot, my wife should be present, and if anything got uncomfortable or weird that we'd stop immediately. Because that's… how friends are supposed to treat friends… with basic respect.

No. 754056

Looks like Slimy Adam has started a youtube channel. Basically a video of him and Ashley who I believe helped 302 Heather throw fake 100 dollar bills around a mall.

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always trying to get nudes bc "it doesnt mean anything to me sexually"

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No. 754252

>>753561
I 100% confirm he will twist any conversation into asking "haha would you do this or that with me? My evil wife HEATHER would NEVER" even if you're 100% platonic and just show bare minimum friendliness.

No. 754273

Adam is a king creep wow.
Is that picture send his "wang dang doodle"?

No. 754279

>>754219
lel what a cuck

No. 754294

>>754238
>meat stick
How old is this man again?

No. 754300

>>754273
yes he sent a picture of his dick and some lewds too.

No. 754302

>>754273
yes he sent a picture of his dick and some lewds too.

No. 754322

>>754219
I'm assuming you're the same anon posting snapchat screnshots from 5 days ago, correct me if I'm wrong.

Are these recent screenshots? Does your friend know that Adam is married? Does your friend know that Adam has said he would never cheat and has publicly shamed Heather for cheating? Does your friend know that Adam is supposedly trying to put his marriage back together and work things out with Heather? In previous screenshots your friend said she "likes Heather." That is the biggest fucking lie ever, no one would actively message a married woman's husband all of these intensely lewd and personal things if they liked the woman he was married to and was "rooting for them" to stay together. Your friend is just as scummy as Adam.

No. 754773

>>754768
>>754770
Hey anon, I'd recommend you delete your posts (it's usually not too great to give away who you are on sites like these, internet people like to harass and it's always better to be safe than sorry).

Also, lolcow is a bit much for 13 year olds. I don't want to seem like I'm talking down to you or anything, so by all means do whatever you want, but I'd suggest getting off of lolcow and just forgetting about Heather. She's not a great role model and Adam is even worse. Don't message him. He's clearly shown himself to be a creep and while he hasn't done anything to suggest he'd be creepy with a child, again, better safe than sorry.

No. 754775

>>754768

Are you sure you were blocked? She has had her official Twitter and Snapchat disabled for quite some time now but she has blocked people for taking Adam's side. Which is understandable.
Adam is an absolute manipulative pig and is not someone that should be trusted or followed.

No. 754776

I don't intend using this site any further, Infact Adam is the one who showed me this thread. And it might be possible she didn't block me, I feel bad for getting upset about that initially. I'm removing him from snap now. This is down right disgusting.

No. 754777

>>754776
Wow, Adam showed you this thread? Was this before all this nasty stuff about him was posted?

Also seriously delete your first two posts, you put your email address in (you're not supposed to put your email in the email field, read the lolcow rules on how to post for help).

No. 754780

He kept talking about how he was going to "win" her back, how he thought she was bipolar, and showed me the beginning of this thread where people were agreeing with him. Not sure if he made the og post though.

No. 754782

>>754780
He didn't make the original post, it was confirmed by an admin that it was made by a long time farmer and there's nothing to suggest that Adam is one. Has he spoken to you recently?

No. 754783

The last time we spoke he said to wish him and Heather a happy anniversary. He kept unadding me on snap and re adding me. He never replied to my last snap, I just unfriended him now.

No. 760101

Sage because only slightly related, but I found this youtuber while looking around for fairy kei videos and heather is also a follower of hers (she commented in this one agreeing with her). She is nearly crying in every video including about these toys and constantly sperging too much. It's kind of eerie how they both have a lot of similarities and can't take care of themselves.

No. 760149

>>760101
Wow, that chick was literally choking up in the intro and I was bracing for something actually bad to happen in the video.

"I'm not super materialistic or anything," but makes a video about how physically pained she is at the prospect of a toy being destroyed. Heather's the same way. She always talks about how she wants to be a minimalist and to declutter and how she doesn't like being surrounded by stuff all the time, but her free time is almost entirely comprised of going to thrift stores and antique stores to accumulate more stuff. Which is fine in itself, but doesn't make sense when you wax on and on about wanting less stuff. At least she's been cutting back on her thrifting and is switching to "adventuring" or whatever the hell she's doing now, but I guarantee a good chunk of her subscribers will leave because that's simply not what they subscribed for, and Heather has a gigantic ego that stops her from doing the smart thing and making a new channel for her urban exploring content.

Heather (and this weird blonde sperg), take a hint from the mounds of plastic garbage you voluntarily surround yourself with: you're materialistic as hell.

No. 760153

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A bit of an update: Heather has made a new snapchat despite the absolute fiasco that came about from her last snapchat foray. Nothing super milky has happened on there yet, but she's been almost exclusively talking about the new direction her channel is taking. She wants to go on more "adventures" in 2019 (by adventures she means going to kitschy antique stores and graveyards, and eventually going urban exploring more). She said that some people have suggested she make a new channel for her urbex content, but in response she went on a whole diatribe about how her channel is called "Heather SPARKLES!!!" and how her channel is about her and her interests and she wants it to represent her whole "sparkly self" or some nonsense like that. Literally the only thing keeping her from making a separate channel for her wildly off-brand content is her ego about her channel.

She's been assuring everyone on instagram lately that she "still loves sparkles and colors" but that she wants to dress sexy sometimes and do spooky shit on her channel. This girl is so obsessed with her image that she feels like she has to justify wearing the color black, lmao. Why do all these kaweewee cookie-cutter girls think that they can't wear certain colors without explaining themselves?

No. 760560

>>760153
If she’s interested in pastels but also gothy stuff why doesn’t she just combine the two? That could be interesting. Ive always felt she goes a little too “all in” with whatever her latest interest is instead of just being naturally interested in it. You don’t need to center your entire being around something to show you like it. Not a big issue of course just something I’ve noticed

No. 760578

>>760101
This story sounds extremely fake. Why would the cashier even know about a customer cutting off the heads to make dolls and why would you ask a stranger if they were doing the same thing?

No. 761201

>>754273
Jesus Christ I hope this bitch leaves this weirdo, I used to follow her when she was into bjds and whatever and then unfollowed when she left the hobby but goddammit this man is a fucking disgusting and I cannot blame her for wanting a divorce.

No. 761209

>>761201
Unfortunately I've heard nothing on the divorce front from her in a few weeks. She used to be very outspoken against Adam. Maybe she's taking a hint though and shutting up about these sorts of things so she doesn't get gossiped about on the internet. I'm worried that she's just gotten complacent though.

No. 761295

>>760101
LOL isn't this that weirdo who made a video apologizing to Pixielocks door being creepy?

No. 761754

>>761295
Yup, she's a cringefest apparently

No. 762343

Dude this girl hasn't ever had a job. How do you think she got her collection? Her braces? Her gym membership? Her heathly vegan food? Lol. Shes looking for a better sugar daddy for sure!

No. 762387

>>762343
She said she use to worked at a store in one of her old videos. Also use to sell bjd things and do ebay. Now she sometimes does Depop and Youtube ad money. Heather has said her mother raised her/enabled her to rely on others, aka a man. Heather is cringy and ignorant but at least she's not scamming people like other cows. She's at least trying to be independent and acknowledging her own issues.

No. 762390

She sells trash from goodwill outlets that I'm sure Adam paid for. She hasn't worked because she claims anxiety. Ball jointed dolls are expensive, how did she buy those? Plus the BJD community hates her.

No. 762396

>>762390
She sells sweaters and toys that people want. If thats trash then I guess all resellers sell garbage. People in relationships buy each other things all the time, and if Adam agreed to finically support Heather that's on him. She apparently has no bank account, can't drive, and Adam was okay with all of this for years. If he was so worried about it like he is recently he should have talked more with her and helped support her to do be able to live without him years ago, not the second she tries to leave. Plus she wants to get away from her husband so why would she keep spending his money 24/7 like you think she does? To spite him? Her made is clear she hates him, if he keeps giving her money that's his own fault.

No. 762402

>>762390

only she has worked in retail in the past and sells things with value? In the past she has found toys etc people will pay 100's for. Girl isn't stupid for jumping on the resale train if you ask me, pretty easy way to make money with little work

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No. 762697

I started following her when she was into BJD and I recall she left that community with big drama but I dont know why. Can anybody share why BJD community hates her so much?

No. 762713

>>762402
Seriously, curation is a great way to make cash as ling as you're knowlegeable about what you're selling and ehat the market for it is like. Having a YT channel centered around that interest is even better because it brings in people who might otherwise have gone to your competition just because they like you as a person.

No. 762749

>>762343
Fuck off Adam.

No. 762857

This girl is seriously in love with a new guy every month lol. She says shes looking for like minded friends but really she just means she wants a boy to be interested in her then she scares them off by being super clingy.

No. 762875

>>762857
Tinfoil but If this is about those tweets I got the impression it was about the Ryan guy who started all this drama off. She references closure, etc.

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>>762875
This is an image board, post images.

No. 762879

>>762875
>>762878
If this is about Ryan, why doesn't she hate that guy's guts? If there was someone who I described as a master manipulator and who managed to turn my husband, family, and friends against me, there's no way in hell I would have a wistful dream telling him I loved him for the last time. Why does she have the worst taste in men ever?

No. 762889

>>762879
It could be about adam I guess? I always got the impression she was conflicted about it all. She hated him but if given a second chance she would take him back

No. 762896

>>762889
Tbh that seems worse to me. Adam has proven himself to be awful.

No. 763068

It's about a new uber explorer guy. She spilled it all on snapchat.

No. 763069

I realize this thread knows nothing about how nuts this girl is lol. Adam is his own crazy sure. But first it was the ryan guy, then it was the dude from tinder that she had sex with, now this "break up" is over the new guy that took her on a couple adventures.

No. 763070

>>763068
Didn't take long for her to start oversharing on the new snapchat.

No. 763072

>>763069
Plus this other female friend that she made her "I lost my best friend" video about that she apparently knew for only a couple weeks. The girl comes on so hard and fast to new people in her life, no wonder she loses them all and starts going crazy on social media.

On her snapchat today she posted a video cuddling her cat, talking about how "people suck but cats will love me unconditionally like no human ever has." It's seriously sad to watch her go through these cycles.

No. 763108

The video she made about "I lost my best friend" was about the explorer dude. Not a girl. Shes not interested in hanging out and connecting with girls lol

No. 763135

>>763108
I swear the video (which is deleted now so I can't go double check) was about her "perfect marshmallow friend" who she never mentioned anywhere on social media, and I'm pretty sure she said it was a girl. That she knew for only a couple weeks.

Also she has female friends, anon. She has gone over to a collector friend's house and done collab videos with her. She also hangs out/goes thrifting with that one larger girl. I never thought she was particularly adverse to female friendships.

No. 763144

https://www.dropbox.com/s/li1a4qcf8o5sa8w/Heather2019.1.mp4?dl=0

Heather's snap story from the past 24 hours. Some highlights:

>Cuddling with cat: "You give me such unconditional love like no person ever has and I know you're never gonna leave me"

>Having a hard time getting over the break-up (were they dating???)
>"So for me this tree is very triggering"
>Wrote herself a note in second-person to arrive with her amazon order because she's so lonely

"Hi Heather! I hope this mic can be used on your adventures! I know you are going to film some amazing content this year and will go on so many adventures! HAVE FUN! Adventure awaits! I love you Princess! ~ Love, Your Self!"

No. 763155

https://www.dropbox.com/s/o6xjqx9ra30xhuv/HeatherS2.mp4?dl=0

And here's a snap story from late November/early December that I forgot to post. She mostly just rambles about wanting to be independent and take control of her life for the first half. In the midst of her gaining-independence rant she mentions how getting out on her own would "open new doors when it comes to relationships and finding that special connection I've always dreamed of with someone and feeling close to someone." Then in the next breath she says she doesn't want to put herself in the situation where someone can control her or take advantage of her. It completely goes over her head that her obsession with finding a romantic partner is exactly how she ends up in these easily-manipulable positions.

At about 13:13, she starts getting weepy as she realizes that she is "way too much" and that she is oversharing on social media. She says she's going to take a break from social media for a few days to "give people a detox" from her. Like twelve hours later she posts still images of herself in the car, saying she's having a breakdown because "she's about to go be bullied at marriage counselling." Mentions receipts she has ready. She says she has no one to turn to and that she's been emotionally abused and manipulated for years and that no one believes her. She then details the steps Adam takes to get people to believe him and turn against Heather. She claims he emotionally abuses her and then buys her things to make it "even."

I hope when Heather sees this (I assume she's lurking), she'll be re-inspired to leave Adam because she seemed very determined in this video.

No. 763261

Shes leaving Adam. That hasn't changed. But you ask me I think shes hoping to find a new boyfriend and then try to move in with him. But yeah shes leaving Adam no matter what.

No. 763279

>>763261
What makes you so sure she's leaving him? She hasn't mentioned the divorce or leaving in weeks, and in fact has been showing signs she's going to stay. Is that you, Adam/Heather? Learn to sage.

No. 763307

>>763261
>>763108
>>763069
>>763068
>>762857
>>762390
>>762343
Mega tinfoil inbound, but I'm convinced all these unsaged posts defending Adam are really from Adam, hear me out. They all use the same language ("this girl," "that guy," over-abundant use of "lol") that show both an unfamiliarity with board culture and a forced distancing from the subject. They're usually criticizing Heather for things that no one else is criticizing her for or bringing up things that one couldn't possibly know for sure without actually knowing Heather irl.

This is the nail in the coffin for me: look how liberally this fucking guy uses "lol" to punctuate his sentences:
>>754246
>>754223
>>754221
>>753154

Less damning, but an instance of him referring to Heather as "this girl" like he's been doing on here: >>752302

Adam, it's absolutely disgusting and pathetic that you're trying to manipulate public opinion of your wife on an anonymous gossip board. You say you want to fix your marriage, yet you actively try to paint yourself as the victim in all this and make Heather look nefarious. You have been equally as unfaithful in your marriage as Heather, you have no moral high ground. In fact, most of the egregious posts on this thread are about you and your constantly inappropriate, creepy, and just generally gross behavior. Take your skinny little meat stick and get out of here.

No. 763318

>>763307
Thank you, anon, I was thinking the same thing yesterday when it randomly got bumped up just to talk about her husband giving her money - which Heather now has to point out in her videos how she uses her own when I've never seen any of her subscribers care or ask.

Snapchat anon said Adam showed her the thread too >>754776

No. 763327

Is there any proof that Heather has been going urban exploring with a new guy? I thought it was adam taking her, I cant remember where but I am sure I saw a picture of Ashley (Adams friend) on top of the vampire building she featured in her newest video.
>>763307
I agree its either Adam or someone close to the situation like Ashley Zoe Fox

No. 763390

>>763307
I agree anon. Also "the BJD community hates her" is an outright lie, I've never heard of her mentioned in relation to dolls. Ever. Her doll videos are completely innocuous. He's just saying shit he knows will wind her up.

No. 763401

https://www.dropbox.com/s/aens7idg1vtkidh/Heather3.mp4?dl=0

This snap story happens immediately following the last one >>763155 and shows Heather crying in the car on the way back from the marriage counselling session. She says she will get out of the marriage no matter what, even if that means being homeless and having to go to a shelter. She claims that Adam was shaming her for her finances during the session, which is corroborated by his posting in this thread and his constant bringing up of money and who's-paying-for-what that he has posted on his social media.

Apparently people "from years ago" had reached out to Heather to apologize for believing Adam
and to tell her what he's been doing. So Adam has been manipulating and lying to friends for years according to her.

She says she sought love from others in the form of cheating because she's been isolated and abused for so long.

She also says she is so desperate that she will do anything for money. She emphasized anything a couple times. Not sure what that means, but I don't want to speculate because that seems pretty grim.

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No. 763439

Watching the latest dropbox link that was placed in here of her crying and listening to everything else she had to say.. I don't know, something still feels very /off/ about Heather. I known her for a bit back in the BJD hobby when she lived in California and I always got the vibe off of her that she had Adam do a lot of things for her. She did ahev Adam leave his family in CA so she could be closer to her family in PA. And if memory serves correctly, they lived at her mother's for awhile until they found their own place. She goes on saying she has no family to help her, but I bet her mother would do anything to help her. I mean, Heather's mother let them live with her until they found their own place; clearly she wants to do what she can to help Heather.

All in all, I think Heather is also having a horrible mental situation, like a manic episode. Just seeing how much she flips to one mood to the next in whatever she posts on twitter or snap or instagram, same with interests and hobbies – I was in a spot like this, but worse, last year and ended up making some choices that I regret. Like Heather has stated, she wants to make these choices extremely quick and want results right this moment and I went through that last year with my horrible manic stage and like I've stated before, I made some choices I regret. And people back then were telling me not to go on with these choices, but when you're in a bad manic stage; you don't want to listen to anyone's opinions or thoughts on the matter.

I'll go back to lurking here; just wanted to put my two cents in about Heather and what I think.

No. 763655

>>763439
For all you know Adam moved after she wanted to end it. Look at Adam's own fucking twitter for fuck sake, the guy is clearly controlling her and is just generally out of his mind. I don't believe she's having an "manic" episode, I think she's finally breaking free from this horrible shit that's clearly been going on for some time. Adam is a piece of shit, anyone can see it just looking at his own tweets.

No. 763661

>>763135

I recall the collab videos with the collector friend, but if you take a look at her channel, all of the videos with that girl are no longer there. They were from last year, correct? The girl she met at a convention? How much do you want to bet she somehow sabotaged that friendship? With all the drama she carries, I wouldn't be surprised. I can't speak for other adult women, but having a "friend" who has breakdowns on the daily and blames everyone else for her problems isn't exactly a friend I'd want to keep around.

I've noticed that she seems to rely heavily on the followers she's never met to be her friends.

If someone closer to the situation could prove me wrong, please do. I can't imagine she has very many rl friends based on her actions, especially not other female friends. If she did, I don't believe she'd be airing out her problems on Snapchat all the time.

No. 763664

>>763661
Do you ever take a day off Adam?

No. 763686

>>763403
Then get a divorce and stop bitching. So many people have offered to help her file for her divorce and move out (she blows them all off), she doesn’t need permission. She’s an adult. She’s even deluded enough to have said before that she wants and expects Adam to let her stay in the house and pay for her shit after they divorce (doesn’t sound like she wants to leave and “be free”). She just wants a divorce without having to leave or pay for her own shopping sprees and be able to date other people. Like a roommate that pays for everything and takes care of all the adult responsibilities. She’s still having him take her and buy her shit on her shopping trips and toy thrifting, still going out to dinner with him, still inviting him to hang out with her to be her camera man, still joking and flirting with him. ~so controlled~ much abuss.

If Adam has just said yes to the open relationship/poly thing she wanted, I highly doubt any of this mess would’ve happened. Especially since right after he said no to her asking to be in an open relationship, she instantly started sperging about wanting a divorce for the first time.

She can leave right now, she doesn’t even need a divorce to move out. She can go stay in a shelter, or at her parents, or at the numerous friends who have offered over and over to let her stay with them. She has two legs, no one is physically blocking her from leaving her house, she leaves everyday on shopping trips and restaurants and hanging out with friends. But suddenly can’t leave or take up her friends up on their offers when is he’s being “trapped” in a “abusive” relationship? It’s just what’s convenient for her in the moment.

Kind of getting sick of her victim complex, crying on Snapchat, but then not lifting one finger to actually do any of the things she claims she wants to do. Also kinda pissed she uses buzzwords like ~abused~ ~manipulated~ and ~controlled~ when she’s literally posting all this stuff on the phone he’s currently paying for and seemingly is trying to find a situation that benefits her the most financially. When there are real women who are actually being controlled who don’t have that luxury.

I think they’re both shitty people who are manipulative and selfish. And they both are just trying to leverage each other to get whatever benefits them the most.

Also agree with anon on this >>763439

They just both need to take their shit off social media, sit down and be honest about what they both want, stop being selfish, and compromise like grown adults. But prolly won’t happen bc they both want their way 100% and won’t settle for anything less than that.

Why anyone is buying any of the bullshit coming out of Heather and Adams mouths is beyond me.

No. 763688

>>763686
Who has offered to help her get a divorce exactly?
>>763661
They might have not been 'that' close anyway, I think if I was the girl I would have backed off when all the drama started to unfold with heather, someone she had only known a few months.

No. 763690

>>763686
Who has offered her actual help? Money, somewhere to stay? And even if one or two people have, do you seriously think Adam hasn't came after them and terrified them into retracting the offer? She is literally a victim in this situation. It's not "victim complex" to realise you ARE a victim of someone.

No. 763753

>>763661
While this post reeks of Adam, you're right. Videos are deleted and they aren't following each other on insta anymore.

No. 763759

>>763690
>>763688
>Who has actually offered her help?
At least two anons that knew Heather irl have come on here to explain how they were willing to help her and she blocked them in response.
>>752409
>>752466
Heather uses the block button generously. Say something she doesn't like? Express your concern about her social media posts? Suggest therapy? Offer genuine help with getting her independence? Block, block, block, block.

I seriously agree with this >>763686
anon. Heather is not being forced to stay. She isn't trapped by anything other than her inability to drive, but that isn't a true roadblock to someone who is genuinely in an abusive situation and needs to leave asap. She's mentioned she goes to therapy, and her therapist has provided her with the contact info for women's shelters/crisis lines. In the last dropbox snapchat video, she mentioned that she might finally call those numbers (she didn't, surprise surprise). She lives near her family, who she actually went to see yesterday for her sister's 16th birthday. She would almost certainly be allowed to stay with them for a short period of time at least. She's got a bit of money from youtube and depop that would at least get her somewhere. If in a pinch, she has porbably thousands of dollars in vintage toys she could sell. If she were truly in an "abusive, controlling, and manipulative" situation with Adam, then she has had every opportunity to leave. But nope. She stays with Adam (and this is only speculation, mind you) because he drives her to these urbex and graveyard locations, films her, brings in enough money to pay for the space for her collection room, and is generally just around because she's got no one else and we know how lonely she gets. Imagine if she were genuinely alone in that house. As much as she claims to hate Adam, I bet she likes that he's around for company.

She's got a mega victim complex and keeps blowing her situation out of proportion because that's who she is. She's "way too much" (her own words). Nothing can just be "a little bit of a problem" with her. It's 100% or nothing. While I sympathize with wanting a divorce and think that she should be able to get one if she wants, I don't at all sympathize with her anymore simply because she has stated herself some of the resources she has available to her and actively blocks friends that extend a hand in trying to help, or even just acknowledge her mental illness/erratic posts on social media. The stark contrast between her downward spiral in November/December to now, with seemingly no real change in the catalyst (Adam/wanting a divorce) tells me that she's become complacent and didn't actually mean those things she said about wanting to get out and being abused. She just wanted attention and sympathy from followers. Well Heather, you got it. Plus a lolcow thread making fun of your public spectacle.

No. 763775

She has been talking about the "break up" with the urbex guy on her snap. How is there no proof when she spilled it all on snapchat.
Heatherexplores

No. 763776

She doesn't want help. She wasn't sympathy, that's pretty obvious. And soon as you don't give her that she blocks you.

No. 763780

>>763775
>>763776
Learn to sage and not double post, Adam. Yes, she was urban exploring with some guy that wasn't Adam and is now heartbroken about the "breakup." I didn't think they were ever dating though, so I don't know how there was a breakup.

No. 763787

I'm not Adam btw. But I guess yall dont really follow her either. I've been judging this weirdo for like 2 years now.

No. 763814

>>763759
Wanted to add a bit more to this even though I said I'd go back to lurking.. Gut feeling is telling me she isn't in an "abusive, controlling, and manipulative" relationship:
I was in one and finally got the guts for divorce in 2016 after nearly seven years in it; during that relationship I was allowed to drive but I could only take him to work and I could only go to the stores or work. There was a time I could see friends, but when I started doing that "too much", I got in trouble. I didn't have my own bank account and I wasn't allowed to buy stuff. She has so much vintage stuff that past me would have loved to be able to have the "power" to be able to buy that much stuff. I wasn't allowed to leave the house other than if it was errands or work (after I got banned from friends). On my days off, there was a list of chores in home I always had to do and would get in trouble if I didn't do them. I wasn't allowed to do ANYTHING (such as computer, etc) until those chores were done. I wasn't allowed to go to bed until 5am because I had to pick him up from work and make him breakfast (he normally got off at 3am). And then I could sleep and had to wake up for work at 8am.

When I was in an abusive relationship, my life revolved around my abuser. I was miserable. I felt I had no purpose in my life. And I compare what I went through to Heather's situation (from what I see). She's allowed to use her phone and post personal things to the internet. I wasn't. Every text and post of mine was monitored and had to be reviewed. It was rare I could buy myself something. My money was his. And his mother was his.

Going back to a time when Adam said Heather didn't have a bank account, handful of people don't have one. My current SO doesn't because he simply doesn't like them. Heather might be the same way or just never got around to getting one (Like she hasn't bothered to get her license) and is having to use Adam's account for her PayPal to be able to deposit money into an account.

And before her youtube started popping off, I don't remember her ever talking about a job then. It always looked like Adam made enough to support both him and her. That was during the time she got her braces and started getting her hair done. Braces aren't cheap with or without insurance and I guess that's why they might be making payment plans. Getting your hair done at the salon and getting it touched up every month or so costs a bit too. And that would seem like some big purchases for a single YTer to make when they have around 10k subs at the time. She wanted these things and going back to what I was saying, if she is/was in an abusive relationship; Adam most likely would have NOT said 'yes' because none of that hair dying and braces would be benefiting him in the end.

No. 763839

Shes not in an abusive relationship. She just legit doesn't have use for Adam now that shes lost a ton of weight cause she can get attention from other guys now.

No. 763884

>>763839
I don't think its because she doesn't have a use for him, its more that she probably realised she was better than that and didn't have to put up with his controlling nature and nudist lifestyle

No. 763885

>>763839
I don't think its because she doesn't have a use for him, its more that she probably realised she was better than that and didn't have to put up with his controlling nature and nudist lifestyle

No. 764784

>>763814
I'm not 100% on whether she's being abused or not, but just because someone's abuse isn't as bad as another person's doesn't mean it's not abuse. Like, yeah, if what your saying is is true, then that's really fucked up. But Heather being allowed to use her phone isn't a sign that she's not being abused, you weirdo.

No. 766759

I'm sorry, am I the only one pretty confused and sort of irritated with her new urbex hobby?

She keeps saying one thing and then doing a completely contradictory thing on camera. Says she needs to take proper safety precautions, even buys a respirator and shows it off on snapchat, saying she's bringing it along in case she sees mold, and then she just leaves it in the car and wanders around a building full of mold for 20 minutes. Why wouldn't you bring it? It's a backpack, unless you overpacked it shouldn't be much of a burden to sling on your back and carry. She says "don't go into these buildings, they get worse every time people enter them" but then films herself going into one and walking around, therefore making it "worse and worse" herself? And she plans on building up a portion of her channel solely on urbex content (at least that's what she's been saying she wants to do on social media). It's like she can give advice, but she doesn't practice any of it and in fact the opposite message comes across in her videos.

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No. 766893

>>766759
I don't know why heather would take up Urbex as a hobby if she is that cautious of unsafe buildings? Most abandoned buildings are structurally unsafe.

No. 767080

>>763814
OT but anon, I’m very happy you’re out of that relationship and I hope the new one is safer and makes you happy. That sounds like a miserable 7 years, proud of you for leaving. Hope the future brings better memories for you.

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Had anyone else noticed that Heather is always saying that this is a new start, or a new beginning, or that things are going to change, but they never do? Honestly, I just want her to get her life together. How don't her followers find this schtick tiring? It's like she's all talk and no action.

No. 767104

>>766759
To be fair youtubers have to advise their fanbases of children not to do shit & the odds of an old, well-made building suddenly collapsing on yourself are like…none

But anyways, as a fan, her urbex content is boring and annoying. I wanna see toys and thrifting and pony cleanups (which she never shows to us anymore, just talks about it). And its annoying how very little she knows about old buildings and cemeteries. Every other line is "i'll have to google that later" come the fuck on Heather, at least make your trips worthwhile by researching stuff that isnt old urban legends. As someone who also loves exploring this kinda stuff I research all I can so I can appreciate/understand what I'm seeing. Ffs she cant even figure out what objects were originally there and what stuff people left there in the past few years.

/end rant

No. 767167

>>767082
She's literally been posting these "inspiring/uplifting" fluffy garbage posts on insta and twitter for like two months. She started doing it back when she was just coming out of the turmoil that was November, and almost nothing has changed in her behavior other than she's now filming content no one subscribed for.

>>767104
>the odds of an old, well-made building suddenly collapsing on yourself are like…none
I don't know what you're talking about. That is a very real risk that you take when you go urban exploring. The hospital she was in literally had holes in stairs/the ceiling/the floor. Ceiling tiles fall all the time just from age and rain/snow accumulation. If you're walking around these places, kicking up dirt and rocks and generally unsettling things with the reverberations of your footsteps, things are more likely to fall. There are buildings so old and decrepit that you simply shouldn't go into. Not saying this hospital was at this point, but still. Doesn't matter how "well-made" the building is, if it's old as shit and has seen no upkeep in decades, yes, it will fall apart if people enter.

I agree with the rest of your post though. None of her subscribers care about the urbex/cemetery content, and the only reason she gets any positive comments on those videos is because people want to seem supportive of her because she's been having this embarrassing public meltdown. Don't want to tell the unstable girl her content sucks.

It all just seems super low effort. She only "researches" the spooky stuff, like the vampire crypt (kek what, I hope she doesn't actually believe that legend about the kid jumping out a hospital window) and the "witches' circle." She keeps talking about all this "symbolism" on tombstones and shit but never explains any of it. Also just slow panning shots of graveyards are super boring. It's so obvious that she's only putting out these videos because she wants to go to these places.

No. 767801

I doubt she ever actually leaves Adam. They both manipulate each other. When she can't get a tinder guy to take her on adventures she goes right to Adam to have him take her.

No. 767807

>>763814
popping in to say there are many different types of abusive relationships. I was in one where the guy bought me tons of stuff and gave me money to buy stuff all the time, including getting my nails done which isnt cheap and is on par with her getting her hair done. He was still controlling and emotionally abusive, even using that stuff he bought me to control me. If he bought me an item of clothing, he would get upset if I didn't wear it around him first, even if I took a picture with it on to send to him beforehand. Just reading Adam's tweets I can tell he's a controlling piece of shit and gross human being in general. I hope Heather will get out and reprogram herself to have normal relationships so she doesn't chase others off with her love-bombing and other things she learned from Adam.

No. 767943

>>767801
>>767807
I love how whenever Adam comes in with a lame unsaged post to bump the thread and get more people gossiping about his wife, someone comes in with an anti-Adam post.

No. 767965

>>767801
after all these posts you still cant sage Adam?

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>>767943
I think both Adam and Heather have posted here. On the other hand, farmhand said Heather and Adam weren’t posting in this thread, and that they had checked all posters, all of them regular posters. But that was 1 month ago. I think Adam is posting here in some of the more autistic posts, especially since when a suspicious post is called out a farmer usually responds to say they’re a farmer to clear up confusion. I think a few posts people suspected are Adam aren’t him, just some newfag who doesn’t know how to sage, but I definitely think Heather is here, both trying to sway the thread to their side. I mean (pic related), but what real farmer and regular poster offers to donate money to a cow? I’ve been here since sites inception, and the only times I’ve seen this happen is when A) it’s the cow itself B) it’s a friend of the cow C) people want to donate to the victim of a cow, not the cow itself D) someone who wants to suck up/be friends with the cow E) they’re a newfag. Including all the posts where they didn’t sage and/or repeated the same exact phrases in multiple posts with same typing style, posting that she’s a total victim, brainwashed, “de-programming”, how horribly abused she is, and we should all rally and support her and help her find (coincidently) financial support to “escape” and “be free”. This whole thread is filled with sus posts.

They’re both manipulators, liars, narcissistic, and have huge victim complex’s. It’s hard to tell for sure which posts are selfposts, but I would bet money that they’ve both posted here multiple times to get anons to side with them, which they both seem obsessed with doing. They both try harder to convince others that they’re in the right, and the other is in the wrong, then they try to do anything productive to change the shit they’re bitching about.

No. 768068

>>768063
It would be so strange if this were happening (which I'm not doubting, by the way) because both of them have been pretty absent of online drama for a few weeks now. Adam stopped posting to his twitter and Heather has been super wrapped up in this urbex thing almost exclusively.

No. 768844

New snapchat story: https://www.dropbox.com/s/2ek3f0wtklk7aui/heatherblizzard1.mp4?dl=0

So Dera (Heather's "bestie") drove Heather to Madison Seminary in Ohio to go "ghost hunting" for her birthday. There was (and still is) a winter storm warning in place for the area of Ohio they drove to, and it was advised to stay off the roads unless absolutely necessary. They got into a wreck on the way to their destination (their car ran off the side of the road and into a ditch) and had to be towed, which Heather described as very expensive. They finally got to the seminary, which Heather showed very little footage of on snapchat, and then they drove to their hotel. Heather says that her hands went numb because she was so terrified driving in the snow and that she never should have traveled (it was not Heather but Dera who did all the scary driving, Heather just hitched a ride). She also points her phone at Dera a couple times and Dera holds her hand up in front of her face, clearly not wanting to be filmed.

Why did Dera agree to drive in inclement weather just to go "ghost hunting"? Was this not the sort of thing that could've been postponed until the weather cleared up? All I can think is that she felt pressured to continue with the plans she made with Heather because she didn't want to "ruin Heather's birthday." Heather has said over and over that she never gets to do anything for her birthday because plans always fall through and none of her friends end up celebrating with her. She mentioned that she was really excited for what she had planned for her birthday this year, and I'm sure that's why Dera felt she couldn't reschedule. Maybe it's just me, but I think it was really rude of Heather to insist that her friend drive her for two and a half hours in a blizzard just so she could film a ghost hunting video. To me, that just seems like taking advantage of a kind friend. If I were Heather, I would've insisted we push our plans off a week or so and paid the cancellation fee for the hotel if there was one. I would never make my friend drive me around in dangerous conditions just for a birthday road trip. I seriously hope Heather helped pay for the towing.

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No. 768862

>>768844

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1wc390h4hf6i7u2/heatherblizzard2.mp4?dl=0

She tacked this on to her story just now. Apparently the whole trip was a disaster, she feels bad for making her friend go out and drive in the storm, she woke up sick, and that this is probably one of the worst days of her life.

Heather says, "they said come on out for your birthday, we'll make it awesome," so apparently she went to go meet up with someone in Ohio? She doesn't say exactly what "they" did when she arrived to disappoint her.

No. 768891

>>768855
>>768844
All week people have been talking about the snowstorm, idk if it's in PA too but here we all knew. Even if the trip was planned before they knew, they're both grown ass adults. They should know to save the trip for another day to be safe plus how much good footage can you get when it's snowed up to your knees? They're reckless. I give Heather the benefit of doubt usuallu but she seems more concerned about going on her trip and snappchatting instead of using common sense to say "Hey, let's just hang out at home and talk about toys for a video instead of going out in a storm where we could both get hurt or worse."

If Heather had any driving experience she wouldn't have wanted to go in that weather. I remember she talked about getting license months ago but instead of studying that weekend like she claimed she would she went out on a date. Sure this car accident didn't motivate her any more to start driving.

No. 769002

>>768851
'no major damage' so did the car get a little beat up then? I feel bad for Dera honestly

No. 769003

>>768862
Any one notice how often Heather is sick? I know she has some trouble related to her period but she seems to get respiratory infections and feels crap a lot? Could be her diet meaning she is not getting the correct nutrition or she imagines these illnesses?

No. 769113

I don't know how to save snapchats but she just went on a big ramble about how EVERYONE hates her, sends her death threads, cyber attacks, harrassment and telling her to quit youtube. Said she was an innocent nobody with a pure heart and doesn't understand why everyone in the world hates her then went on to say she accepts that people hate her for whatever reason and she's going to keep making videos even if her career is over and her life is a mess. She also admitted the best friend video was about a guy, I think the Ryan guy from months ago who she claimed manipulated her husband and friend.

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>>762697
oddly enough people seem to say there was a lot of drama but i can't find anyone going into details
here's just some old posts on a bjd confessions blog about her, it's all very vague

No. 769332

The BJD drama is all very vague but what I gathered is she somehow made some small BJD shop close or something to that extent. But I think mainly people just saw through her bs with her poor me the victim mentality.

No. 769364

>>769113

Here's that snapchat ramble: https://www.dropbox.com/s/167pd3g1fbgzj06/heatheronthehaters.mp4?dl=0

She repeats herself a lot in this one, but basically she says she's been getting "cyber attacks, death threats, and people gossiping about her everyday life" which she doesn't understand because she's "a nobody and a loser." She says people just don't understand her and that they've misinterpreted her. She says all she wants to do is make people happy, and she wishes people saw that side of her instead of hating her for this "misinterpretation." She thinks there are so many better things people can do with their lives rather than gossiping about her super boring life. She says she's been thinking a lot lately about quitting youtube. She repeats "everybody hates me" quite a few times. She's convinced that there is a huge amount of people online that absolutely hate her (which, just taking this thread as an example, is patently false). She says some days, she gets more hate than support. She wonders if it's worth it to keep putting herself out there on social media despite all the hate for her personal life she's getting, but she just loves being on camera and filming these exploring videos so much. She wants to be a host of some ghost hunting show or something someday, and she sees youtube as practice for that.

She says she's accepted that people are going to hate her. She has nothing left to lose. She says maybe she deserves the hate "even though she's a good person" but she asks that her friends get left out of it. I assume this is about the screenshot from Dera's instagram that was posted yesterday (which is now deleted, along with the two posts that Heather made about the incident). She says her friends don't deserve that, they didn't ask for that (which is a bit hypocritical because Dera clearly didn't want to be in her snapchat story, but Heather filmed her anyway).

She says she "lives a peaceful life and doesn't start drama with anyone." She said, "yes I ranted about divorce stuff. Is that really so bad to deserve so much hate?" She genuinely thinks that's all people have a problem with her about. She claims that people have tried to get close to her just so they can get dirt on her so people can laugh at her. Is that what those people who used to be your friends until you blocked them after they suggested you get help were doing, Heather? Just trying to get dirt on you?

>"I read what people are saying about me, and I wish I could just jump in and correct them because so many people are just so misinformed."


She admits to reading this thread. I can't fathom how she could possibly read this thread and not understand exactly what people don't like about her behavior.

She does confirm that the "losing my best friend" video was about a guy she got really close to who "basically tricked her, took advantage of her, and dumped her" and that people were saying she "deserved it." I don't recall anyone saying she deserved what Ryan did to her in this thread, so I'm not sure where she's getting that from.

She ends the rant saying "fuck the haters, I'm just going to do what makes me happy." She says she'll keep making explore videos and whatever kind of videos she wants. She knows this will be "used against her" but she doesn't care.

She also apologizes to anyone she might've hurt or offended, saying she just sucks at getting back to people in messages and she can't keep up internet friendships.

No. 769396

>>769364
>She ends the rant saying "fuck the haters, I'm just going to do what makes me happy." She says she'll keep making explore videos and whatever kind of videos she wants.

Then make a new channel with a different aesthetic, for christ's sake. 90% of pastel/80s toys fans aren't gonna sit through her lame ~spooky~ footage and she's not gonna make money to keep doing "what she loves." inb4 she ends up poor and alone and comes crawling back to her scumbag of a husband (god forbid).

No. 769407

I'm a little confused because in that video rant she says to leave her friends alone, but she frequently talks about how she doesn't have friends. I wonder how her "friends" feel when they hear her say things like this?

Attention whore is all that comes to mind with her. She constantly puts her life on display for the internet, but gets upset when people are talking about her. She says to leave her friends out of it, but she was trying to get Dera on camera during their trip. It doesn't even seem like she has haters, she just claims she does for pity I guess? Why would anyone send her death threats? I highly doubt that's happening.

I would love to chat with one of her current friends, because being friends with her seems like a chore and I just want to know how they deal with her constant drama.

No. 769418

>>769407
As someone that has a friend that, while not famous, has quite a following - it really hurts.

But mental illness sometimes makes you feel really lonely, Whether you have support or not, so she's most likely exaggerating because she's manic

No. 769599

>>769175
What are the chances her boyfriend submitted some of those, considering he's suspected of submitting multiple posts ITT and some of those confessions seem to be WK her boyfriend when this should be irrelevant to a doll collector

No. 769628

>>769599
I'd believe it. Heather says she's been being emotionally abused for years, so it's not like it was only recently that Adam got super scummy.

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I don't see why she just can't release said footage?

No. 770280

>>770209
Maybe because she cries constantly to manipulate others to take her side and/or overlook a shitty thing she did? Often recording it and taking selfies of her crying for attention?

I hope she posts it, it’s probably so cringe inducing.

No. 770281

>>769364
>She's convinced that there is a huge amount of people online that absolutely hate her


If you look at all her YouTube comments on the past 6-8 videos, every single comment is positive. Like not one is even negative or critical in the slightest. It’s like a weird echo hug box chamber. It’ll say “48 comments” or “60 comments” but then only show 40 or 30 or 28 comments. So I guess she’s been baleteeing probably her original fan base’s comments who get this video pop up in their recommendeds and didn’t sign up for that content. Barely any dislikes or likes. More likes than dislikes. Just thought I’d mention that.

No. 770349

>>770281
A while ago heather recruited people to be an admin or something along those lines for her comment section, their job was to delete anything resembling 'hate'

No. 770559

>>770209
Is "he" Adam? This is so weird and cryptic. She really fishes for attention with these posts.

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She shouldn't hace posted it in the first place. She is clearly looking for sympathy

No. 770585

Can't she just go to the police with the videos?

No. 770592

>>770582
jesus christ get thee fuck out of there if it's THAT bad. on her snap she says the marriage councellor or whatever gave her a number to call for a shelter or some place to go and shes like "i dont know what they will do with me i don't trust anyone at the moment" heather if it's really that bad you WILL call that number, it's not about you trusting them it's about you getting the fuck out of your situation and never looking back, it's a leap you have to take in your life to get away, which is what you want right? stop making up excuses and just go, get it over and done with. or else things will remain the same. if youre reading this just DO IT, you never know, it might be really good and everything turns out okay, but you will never know unless you try.

No. 770593

looks like a transitioned anthony fantano

No. 770595

>>770593
cannot unsee now

No. 770762

>>770580
>>770581
>>770582
Um, are these recent? This seems like something she would've said in November or December. She hasn't brought up any of this stuff anywhere recently at all that I've seen. She's also really sick today and is going to the doctor and doing other sick person stuff, so I can't see her having posted this today. If this is old, why are you bringing up old milk like it's new? Smells of Adam trying to stir the pot.

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>>770580
>>770581
>>770582
Samefag but these are definitely old, this is her twitter profile pic right now. Why did you hold onto those screencaps for so long, anon?

No. 770849

Nitpick but She went to her doctor today and got told she had a viral throat thing, a cold basically. But she persuaded her doctor to give her antibiotics? That wont help a viral infection at all, thanks for contributing to all the antibiotic resistant bacteria Heather!

No. 770972

>>770762
Yep looks like something from Adam's evidence folder. You really stalking your own wife on Twitter, keeping caps for months and then posting it on a "hate" forum thinking we are gonna lay into her? You're everything she says you are, Adam. Get a life instead of harassing this poor woman.

No. 771551

>>770849
Don't worry anon, no doctor would ever prescribe antibiotics for a virus.

It was hilarious, she said she convinced her doctor to give her antibiotics for her viral infection (which if you know literally anything about illness, you know antibiotics don't do dick for viruses), and then she said what her doctor gave her was Claritin. Which isn't an antibiotic at all, it's an antihistamine (for allergies). But Heather didn't know that, she said it was "the antibiotic her doctor prescribed." You don't even need a prescription for Claritin.

No. 771686

This is exactly what she was doing back in October. It's a shame that things haven't changed.

I recall one night, it was maybe 2am, Heather had posted a status on Facebook about divorcing Adam and becoming homeless. I was concerned, so I went to comment on it and the status was already gone. She did this a few more times before I also became a victim of her extremely liberal block button, as others here have stated.

At some point you just stop feeling bad. She spends all this time posting vague statuses and updates, then deletes them "out of fear". Surely she can report Adam if he's truly doing all of these terrible things. If she has video evidence, even better! It just feels like she wants a pity party.

Maybe she has no one to turn to because she isn't good at keeping friendships. She pushed away all the people who tried to help her, not Adam. Adam isn't without fault, but neither is Heather. It seems like her idea of friendship is someone to unload all her issues on who won't say anything negative about her and will encourage her to do whatever she wants, even stupid shit, like driving to a different state for ghost hunting even though the weather has made the roads dangerous. It's always me me me with her.

No. 771701

>>770592
saged for samefag but now i feel like an idiot because those tweets were ages ago lol i pretty much still stand by what i said though if she still feels the same way but is ~slightly~ more silent about it.

No. 771736

>>771686
Did she block you the second you managed to comment on one of the statuses? What did you even say? There are only so many "normal" responses to a 2am cry for help that one can have, and it seems like Heather would block people for even offering as benign a response as "Are you okay? I'm worried about you."

I literally can't wrap my head around what she was trying to accomplish. What response was she hoping for?

No. 771925

>>771551
>>770849
Off topic I know, but I've had urgent care doctors prescribe me antibiotics AND steroids for persistent cough (which was almost certainly either allergy related or viral). Doctors can be retarded.

No. 772067

>>771925
Must just be doctors in America that give out antibiotics like that, in the UK they don't even want to give you antibiotics even if you have a bacterial infection. Do you guys think Heather is immune surpressed or something? She Is constantly unwell… I wonder if she breathed in some bad stuff in the abandoned places, that wont have helped

No. 772297

>>772067
For as long as I've been following Heather; she's always "sick." It's such a constant thing I see nowadays that it's hard to believe she's actually sick or just wanting attention or sneezed and she thinks she has the flu or something.

As for doctors in America, I've never had a doctor prescribe antibiotics to me when I was sick. Of course, when I am sick, I don't see the doctor right away unless it lasts more than 2 weeks. I just stay at home and rest, take some vitamin C and drink echinacea tea unless I'm well.

No. 772539

https://www.dropbox.com/s/0t9wda174d0897m/heatherissick.mp4?dl=0

This is a snap story from the 22nd, before Heather got in to see a doctor. If any anons are doubting whether she was actually sick, I hope this dispels your doubts because while she's not deathly ill or anything, she clearly has a bad cold.

She talks about being sick for about two minutes, but then she starts talking about youtube. She says that being constantly talked about on here made youtube and social media "not fun anymore" and that's why she wasn't uploading as much. In true Heather fashion though, she's now made a complete 180 and has yet again decided that she's not going to let the "hate" get to her and she's going to come back to youtube (though I didn't really think she was gone?? She'd uploaded 4 videos in January at the time she made this snap).

She says that dealing with constant hate is just part of being a youtuber and every youtuber she looks up to deals with it.

She also rambles about how she just wants to be a "real person" online. She acknowledges that her most successful videos are the videos like thrift hauls where she buys stuff, but the videos she loves to make are the explore videos. She says she's "over" the haul videos, but then immediately talks about her upcoming Polly Pocket Hot Topic haul.

No. 773692

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Looks like Heather is making a new channel for her Urbex. But it seems like to me all she cares about is having another channel that gets monetised so she could have that “sweet YouTube cash.” If she’s so concerned with having her videos be paid, why not be like a “normal” variety YouTuber and have it to where it’s like: Monday is cute video, Wednesday is vlog, and Friday is an Urbex video? Because sooner or later her main or secondary channel is just going to get forgotten about.

No. 773699

>>773692
I predict her second channel won't get monetized for a few months and by then she'll have stopped wanting to make the explore videos because this is just a phase she's going through and she'll realize it's not making her any money.

No. 774039

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She's trying so hard to get more people to sub to her Urbex channel. She's now trying to call the fans of her Urbex channel the "Hex Fam."

No. 774165

>>774039
The hahahaha at the end makes her seem deranged. The message is fine otherwise though

>ITT

>Why doesn't she make a separate channel?
she makes one
>Why did she make a separate channel?

No. 774175

>>774165
I think it's good that she made a second channel because now her weird content that didn't fit the main channel is gone, but I don't think it's going to be monetized for awhile and I agree that she'll probably get bored with it before it does. She was talking on her snap stories about how she feels like giving up on the urbex thing for a few months at least because it's cold and she wants to go to more interesting places than just the places near her. At least she says those are the reasons, but she mentioned feeling discouraged about getting monetized first. I can only guess as to what is more important in her mind.

No. 774625

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Heather had said in an above Snapchat video that she can't forgive or trust what her friends did but is seen with them on her exploration of the hospital. I think all of what they ALL did was for all their channels; Adams, Heathers and Ashley's.
Now Adam just uploaded a video on yt about exploring the distillery. It was all bullshit and her sycophants can't see that.(namefagging)

No. 774646

>>774625
So, wait.. Adam has an Urbex channel too? Or is his channel more than Urbex? And why is she hanging out with him? Did she decide no need to whine about getting a divorce?

No. 774647

>>774625
You're suggesting this whole meltdown was just a publicity stunt for the three of their channels' sake? Welp it didn't work, yeah there's a lolcow thread about Heather and eyes were on Adam for a while, but all three channels haven't experienced any noticeable traffic from it at all. Heather claims a bunch of people hate watch her, but I bet there are like ten anons who post/lurk in here tops. No one cares about these three randos and their garbage urbex videos.

I don't think her October meltdown was a publicity stunt at all. I think Heather is unstable from being in emotionally manipulative relationships her whole life and lashed out when things came to a head, she said some things she regrets and some things she didn't mean, and now that she's simmered down a bit she realizes that going through with that divorce that she said she'd be willing to be homeless for would be a whole lot of effort and scary change, and she's no longer passionate enough about it to do anything. So she's back to hanging out with her husband and friends that she made clear she would never trust ever again. It's so common to see victims of abuse renege on threats of divorce like this.

No. 774688

>>774625
Adam has been doing videos with the one guy before the exploring stuff. Pretty sure those are his friends and he brings them along so him and Heather are fighting less and he gets content for his own wannabe be famous youtube shit plus more attention from his friends channels.

No. 774851

Just wanted to state that the reason why she called her urbex subscribers "Hex" is because Heather Explores. H = Heather EX = Explores. HEX.

No. 774852

I also want to state that the hospital, nursing home, and distillery video were all filmed before Heather was upset about her friends going exploring without her.

No. 774853

>>774851
Yeah…? Thought that was obvious enough. Who are you? Clearly not a farmer. Heather or Adam maybe? Ashley? Learn to sage.

No. 774854

>>774852
When was Heather upset about her friends going exploring without her? I don't recall her mentioning that. Weren't those videos filmed recently? I remember Heather snapping right before she went to one of these places, it was definitely in January. Has she gotten upset about being left out in like the past two days or something?

Clearly you're someone close to Heather. Why are you contributing to a gossip forum about her? Some friend you must be.

No. 774856

"So, wait.. Adam has an Urbex channel too? Or is his channel more than Urbex? And why is she hanging out with him? Did she decide no need to whine about getting a divorce?"

Adam's channel is more than urbex, he only did an urbex video because of Heather and Ashley Zoe Fox. And being the over protective person he is, he didn't want Heather to explore by herself with so many people, so he went as well and did a video for his channel as well.

No. 774859

>>774853

I'm neither, Heather explained it online.


I was mainly replying to
>>774039

No. 774860

>>774854

If you go on her snapchat and facebook, she says how she was upset and wanted to hang out with someone for the night and even spent the night as well after her friends explored without her knowing how much shes "passionate" about exploring.

No. 774862

>>774854

No, I'm just using my sources on what's on her social media accounts

No. 774863

>>774859
Sage your dumb posts.

That poster didn't imply they didn't understand the nickname "Hex Fam." Why did you feel the need to explain/defend Heather's choice of nickname if you aren't her or someone close to her? Such a weird thing for a stranger to say, on top of your other posts explaining Adam's channel.

No. 774865

>>774863

Look, you can doubt me all you want. I was just making a general statement about the "Hex Fam" thing. That is all.

No. 774867

>>774865
It's just that this thread is usually dead for two or three days, then gets bumped by some suspicious non-farmer with something irrelevant, usually with some clues that they are personally involved with the characters in this thread. It's painfully obvious.

Please, Heather/Adam/Ashley/other friends of Heather's, google "lolcow sage" before you post. Please. Or don't, it makes it easy for us to figure out who's who.

No. 774903

>>774867

Alright, have fun trying to figure out who I am because I'm not involved with them. Its all common sense and knowledge if you use your sources that are right in front of you on all of their social media platforms. I'm just going by what was said, and what's obvious to the naked eye.

No. 775024

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>>774903
I think it’s mainly because you aren’t saging your posts mixed with the high level of suspicion amongst anons of heather/adam previously posting here. The info you posted is publicly available and obvious so I highly doubt you actually know either of them irl.

Just next time you post, write “sage” in the email field to avoid this. Pic related.

No. 775123

I honestly think the whole 'Hex Fam' name is just stupid. Of course, anything with fam added to it just sounds dumb to me. I feel like she could have thought up of a differently name.

No. 775658

>>775123
Yea she’s got this weird obsession with “FAM” it makes me want to punch a wall

No. 775690

Heather hasn't posted to instagram, twitter, or snapchat since Monday. Obviously two days isn't a long time to be away from social media for most people, but she usually posts in all three places multiple times a day. I hope she's doing alright.

No. 775883

>>775690

Maybe she’s taking a break off of social media to decompress?

No. 775886

>>775883
I think that would be good for her definitely, but usually she announces those (and gives up on it within a couple days).

No. 776298

>>775886

True. I hope in a way she gets in trouble during an urbex exploration. Because Technically that’s illegal as it’s trespassing

No. 776602

>>775690
Didn't realise she took a little "break", I've been seeing posts from her on instagram (even during her "break"). Within the last 24 hours, she posted about 16 pictures on her UrbEx IG.

No. 776694

>>776602
Heh I didn't realize I wasn't following her new insta account, just took care of that.

No. 778909

>>776602
Whats the urbex ig account?

No. 778947

>>778909
@heather_explores

No. 778993

She just created a Flickr Account for her Urbex photos, she posted about it on her explore Insta

https://www.flickr.com/search/?text=HeatherExplores&view_all=1

No. 779012

She has been that way for a long time. She has had online beef with people who tried to expose her and she has done some terrible things to me and others. Glad she’s getting her karma. You know she met her husband by cheating on her ex right?

No. 779014

>>779012
Terrible things to you? Are you someone who has posted in this thread already?

Also do you have more details about her cheating on her ex? She seems to have a bit of a cheating streak.

No. 779015

She cheated in her ex with her current husband. She forced her ex to buy her everything and would physically abuse him if he didn’t do what she told him to do. Her ex walked in on her fucking her husband in his room and they didn’t stop when he walked in on them. Her husband was her ex’s best friend. So it doesn’t surprise me this happened again. She wasn’t forced to not work and her being a potato in her husbands house is her forcing him to do everything. She’s lazy, manipulative and a popularity whore. No sympathy from here

No. 779016

>>779015
How do you know this? Give receipts or proof of some kind before we believe any of this.

No. 779017

Honestly what she did to me is far to long to explain here. Not to mention it happened a really long time ago but it impacted me and hurt me so much revenge has been etched in my brain. I know I’m terrible for thinking this is great, but for years during our beef I was called crazy, harassed, threatened with death threats, YouTube channnels being taking down, called a stalker and etc. it’s made me wish she got exposed and it finally happened. It’s like a huge mental weight lifted.

No. 779019

I was best friends with ex. I can give names but I have no files or pictures because I just was young at the time and didn’t think of it. I’m not posting names because it’s his story to tell. And like I’ve said before what she did to me was terrible. My husband can confirm but I don’t wish to drag him into it. Her and I met online years ago used to be friends. My husband used to be her friend as well. We all met thru psn.

No. 779021

>>779019
Well I'm sorry about whatever happened to you, but without proof or someone coming in to explain and verifying their identity (to give some amount of validity more than an anonymous post with no proof), we can't rightfully act as if what you said is true.

No. 779022

She’s even targeted me in tweets but those most likely got deleted. Her friend Mr and Mrs Gamer did most of the insulting and bashing while she sat there tweeting how I’m trying to be like her because I cosplayed CHi. I didn’t take photos so I wouldn’t have reminders. I’ve tried to bury the hatchet but she’d always find excuses to dig it up and me being a stupid teen at the time went with it. I can tell you that when I was pregnant she hopped on PS3 text chat and wished me a bloody miscarriage. My husband was in the chat at the time and de-friended her immediately. She then took my personal information and posted it online. My address, my parents names, what city I live in, phone number everything you can think of. She also got her followers to do the same thing after I moved. I legit lived in fear for a while I didn’t tell my parents because I was afraid I did something wrong. Took me a while to get it down too.

No. 779026

>>779022
Well shit, the details are making this more convincing anon. Do you remember what year this was?

If what you're saying is true, I am so sorry and I'm sure recalling this is not easy.

No. 779028

Her channel helper or whatever his name is KLo. He kept trying to be the moderator between us. I will give the first name of her ex. It’s Scott. He lived in San Francisco and he moved her into his home when she was going off the name Jill BSAa and Kitty Ravage and her other name Kandi Acid.

No. 779031

It honestly was a long time ago but went on for years. I believe it was 2010 till 2016. She dated her ex for a while he would IM me when she went off the deep end back when aol messenger was still a thing. She recently about 4 years ago took a picture of her ex passed out drunk posted it inline and mocked me saying this is your knight in shinning armor. She was dating Adam at the time and Scott wouldn’t kick her out I remember us talking about it he felt it was wrong. Then Adam moved her into his home and his parents disliked her and there was a bunch of controversy and then Heather moved back home with Adam and they all lived in her parents house. Heather cleaned up her act because her grandfather has money and said she won’t get a cent until she cleans her act up. That’s what Scott told me

No. 779033

Back when she was dating Scott she got pissed he was talking to me. She straight out hit him in the balls. I told him to leave her but he said he couldn’t because she has nothing everything she has he got her. She had no home his home was hers. It sounds familiar right? Isn’t Adam saying the same things? That’s why if he saw her having sex with someone else she did it knowing he would he see. She did it to Scott in his own home. Not to mention Scott told me about 3 years ago Adam was cheating on Heather with another girl I think her names Heather. Adam broke things off with her for this Heather. Adams parents loved the other one and I think they were planning on getting married. But she was texting Scott saying how he came to California and they hooked up and it hurts her because she still loves him. Neither party here is innocent.

No. 779037

I remember Heather's KittyRavage days.
Here's the YT for that: https://www.youtube.com/user/KittyRavage/videos
Turns out she uses the old KittyRavage twitter to repost everything she posts on her main twitter: https://twitter.com/KittyRavage

I'm also guessing this is KLO that anon was talking about: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCnjIqOblEUSYiNSyl_VS41w
KLO made a theme song for her too: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Leh2HcUFt5E

Here's also a profile on FB for Kandi Acid; Adam is a mutual friend: https://www.facebook.com/kandi.acid

(saging because lots of links [I know this is an image board] and links are proving that previous anon clearly knows some stuff).

No. 779040

If she posts in here I am going to get harassed galore again. I just wanted to post this so you all can see she has a pattern. I tried to be her friend but she did me so dirty. Honestly she needs to acknowledge her problem and go to therapy. Therapy isn’t a bad thing. I went and am currently going. It has helped a lot. She says she has no real life friends, well try having your real life friends leave you and go to her to feed her all your personal information. I am human I made the mistake of trusting people with the full story to end up getting bit in the ass or told I’m crazy. But honestly I met my husband during all this and he believes me because he saw it happen. Heck Heather even tried to date my husband and the tried to convince him to move her out to where he lived at the time. She also gave my bf back in the day a cam show while we were together knowing we were together. I don’t think she’s a bad person, I think she has a mental issue with wanting to be accepted and everyone is using kiddie gloves telling her it’s ok to be yourself. No get help. You want to be healthy? Put the YouTube down put it all down and get help. Stop playing victim. With help even tho she did all this crap to me, I think she really could be an amazing YouTuber and person. It took me years to get to this state of realization.(if you have milk, post it. Lolcow is not your vague posting blog.)

No. 779057

>>779037
wtf that kitty ravage channel is weird, the things she says in the most recent video which was only 2 months ago.. shes like a completely different person, she also tells someone shes 21 going on 22 when that isnt true, shes 28 going on 29, why lie? im confused.

No. 779058

>>779057
It's clearly a reuploaded video, she says right away that she just reached 300 subscribers, but her channel has 11k now. I don't think she earned those all in the last two months.

No. 779059

>>779058
oh shit you're right, i'm a moron, thanks for pointing that out. man i hate re uploaded videos lol.

No. 779072

>>779057
I know these Kitty Ravage videos are so old, it seems like she talks so differently then compared to now.

No. 779079

>>779072
to be fair, over time people do change. but i thought it was recent thats why i was confused.

No. 779096

>>779079
Yeah, I'm aware but I'm just talking about the overall tone. I feel like she now talks with more of a valley girl-esque tone in her voice rather than using her normal tone.

No. 779128

So does that snapchat anon has anymore snaps? Also what's her snapchat account?

No. 779262

>>779128
There's really nothing interesting going on on her snapchat. Like today she showed clips of her editing an urbex video and too-long clips of some background music she was considering using. Her snapchat is heatherexplores.

No. 779546

The crazy story about her cheating on her ex with Adam semi makes sense.. she always kinda talked about how she lost half her collection bc something crazy happened with an old roommate but would never go into detail about it. Ummm. Probably why she wouldn't go into those details.

No. 779571

>>779546
Yeah because if she went into detail about it, then her "~*~*SPARKLE FAM*~*~" would know that she isn't this sweet and innocent girl like she always acts like.

No. 779599

>>779571
It's funny, she's constantly putting on this sweet and innocent act. On her kittyravage channel, she would talk in this overly-performative baby voice (and she typed the same way too, adding -s and -ies to the ends of words to "sound cute"); she makes vague facebook posts pretending to be a meek little victim in need of help; even a good chunk of her videos she makes for her main channel now, you can tell she is putting on a super-sweet act for the camera, with a high-pitched voice and lilting inflection. She's putting on this act to get people to sympathize with her, to get people to like her, and to get out of drama she creates. I can imagine she's an exhausting person to be around. She always goes on about "being herself" but I don't think she's been herself for more than a day at a time before switching into another saccharine personality to manipulate people.

No. 779601

>>779599
Samefag but I feel like these forced personalities go hand-in-hand with how much she "rebrands" herself on the internet. After that anon came in here a couple days ago and vagueposted about Heather cheating on her ex with Adam, I did a bit of digging into Heather's past excursions on the internet (nothing overly milky that hasn't been discussed already, just more of the same), and she has like four or five different facebook profiles (that I could find), a handful of youtube channels (all abandoned for new ones), and other random usernames she's gone by. I wonder if she would drop a username if it became associated with drama and just create a new one, hoping people wouldn't know who she was/would forget about the shit she stirred under her old name.

No. 779630

>>779601

Can confirm that she drops usernames when there's drama associated with them. She used to go by Freyabunny and hasn't mentioned being into Chobits forever.

No. 779724

>>779040
Man, I read all your posts, whew lad, not even surprised she acted/still acts like this. Sorry you had to go through all that shit anon, sounds like a fucking nightmare. Jesus she has a serious case of gotis and being a self-victimizing bitch. I’m glad you feel a bit better seeing this thread, a lot of people don’t buy her bs anymore and call her out on her shitty behavior, hope it gives you some comfort. Lol at her potato ass thinking she really had a chance at your husband, she’s a user, self centered, and freaks out when things don’t go her way, no wonder she sperged so hard at you, probably couldn’t imagine your husband not giving her the attention she thinks she deserves and choosing you over herself. I know it may not feel like it after all the shit she put you through, but you really dodged a bullet and in a sense, won, by being ex-communicated from her friend group, she would’ve kept fucking with/using you (ESP now that she’s only gotten worse with her behavior) and dragged you down with her to the rock bottom level that she’s at now. Those people weren’t worth being your friends if they so easily sent your dox to heather for her to publish and harass you. You’re way, way better off without shitty people like that in your life. Thanks for the info you were able to provide m8, any other profiles or old communities/other community drama she was apart of that you can remember would help.

One question: how old was heather when this all happened? You said you were a teen when this happened, were you underage when it occurred?

I’m asking bc it seems like she’ll do anything to relive her teen years, tries hard to sound/dress/act like a teenager, competes with younger people for attention, and is jealous of those younger than her. At almost 30 years old….

Her previous profiles and usernames are a trip, that obnoxious baby voice ugh

Don’t understand why her husband still lets her stay, drives her around, and is still buying her tons of shit, after all of this and everything he said against her. What a cuck. I know she uses the excuse that she has nothing and nowhere to mooch off of in order to guilt people to let her stay, but she clearly had no problem living with her parents in the past. Maybe it’s just harder to manipulate and get what she wants out of them? I’m assuming her grandad shut her down and didn’t give her the money? If he had she would’ve ditched her husband in a heartbeat and wasted it all on whatever new trend she became obsessed with.

No. 779880

It happened back when she was a teen. She used to give out cam shows on ps3. She was obsessed with looking and being like Jill Valentine. Hence her old YouTube being Jill BSAA. All of her old accounts that I know of I have posted. I believe Heather is my age so I wasn’t underage I was 17 or 18 at the time. When I tried to do a YouTube she’d get her users to flag all my videos. I tried to expose her and I had a video made of my face on free willie saying how I’m a whale and how I’m ugly then whale noises and a link to my YouTube and Facebook. She saw this and laughed at it and spread it around. She then responded with a video stating I was a crazy stalker because she beat me at Resident Evil 5. That wasn’t the case obviously and she actually got beat by me several times. That’s why she got naked for bf at the time and tried to steal him at the time. She was successful in dating him because him and I broke up and he immediately went to her. He was Scott but me being the way I am I was still friends with him. He told me that he flew her out to spend a few days with him becyshe called him crying saying how she had to flea home because her sister tried to kill her. She showed up at the airport with nothing but her gaming system and demanded Scott to buy her new clothing. She would treat Scott’s mom like shit, she’d keep everyone up till 4am with scream bouts and fighting on the mic. She refused to leave the house, she refused to get a job, she made Scott buy her everything for her channel and her recordings and when she left him she threw a fit and took everything he had. She spent her time when she was with Adam while she lived with Scott telling Scott how Adams dick is better and etc. basically harassing him every day making his life hell. She targeted me again because she knew he was talking to me. She’d talk shit about him on Twitter and take photos of him drunk and post it laughing at him. She knew he was trying not to lose his best friend Adam because he needed a best friend and Adam and Heather treated him like trash. My husband was a close online friend who she tried to sink her claws in before she dated Scott. He was also the one to help take down her posts attacking me. The website was RE5drama but it got taken down I think.

No. 779933

>>779630
Saging because I don't know if this counts as new info but agreeing with anon about the username dropping when shit goes down and the whole Freyabunny username. This is some of the "confessions" she'd receive in the BJD community back when she was in it.
http://truebjdconfessions.tumblr.com/tagged/freyabunny
If I find anymore, then I'll post them here. No matter where she goes, she brings drama. I honestly think she loves having attention – whether it's good or bad.

No. 779944

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Sage for ancient milk, but here is an example of how she's been like this for years. Claiming there's an "all out war declared against her," saying she didn't think anyone liked her any more, addressing the haters and telling them to "think before they judge." Heather, it doesn't matter what you've been through, if your behavior is nasty, people are gonna call you out on it. The fact that she's still hiding behind the whole "you don't know me/my past so back off!" shtick is just gross and sad for a grown adult.

No. 780020

Here’s her old Facebook.
https://m.facebook.com/profile.php?id=100001679721840
And her follower who basically knew everything about her as well is on Twitter I don’t know if they’re still friends. The way they attacked me I think they might be. It’s @mrandmrsgamer

No. 780687

She got tons of positive comments on her new exploring video, so I don't understand why she keeps talking about people "hating her passion"

No. 780716

>>780687
Thats the problem with Heather, is that shes always thinking that people hate her stuff of she gets ANY dislike vote or hate message.

No. 780720

>>780687
Nothing especially against heather but she is really boring at this compared to other urbex youtubers.I had to skip most of that,way too long she might be watchable with better locations but this was a waste of time tbh

No. 780727

>>780687
>>780720
She got more comments on this video than her most recent main channel vid (which has 2k views).

Also is Urbex even popular enough to make a sustainable youtube career out of(if she ever gets popular)? Like isn't she trying to leave her husband and live on her own?

No. 780733

I don't understand what's she's talking about with the hate either. She was saying on Snapchat she doesn't check her comments anymore cause it's all people hating on her.. like where? Where is all this hate? There's not even really hate here, just people talking about what she's doing.

No. 780744

I think she likes to mention this hate to make it seem like she has a lot going on in her life than she really does. Or she says it to get more praise from her fans because she's never satisfied with going a single day where she doesn't get constant praise.

No. 781109

She looks like Kelly Eden.

No. 781157

>>781109
you're kidding right? she looks nothing like her lol just the fact that they both have similar hair (but kelly's is currently blue)

No. 781161

>>780733
It means she lurks her thread constantly. When a cow whines constantly about “how much hate they get” but then have no actual hate comments on their social media, it’s usually because they’re lurking here. Even though this thread is contained to our site, not on any of her social media or any social media platform at all. No one invited her or posted on her socials. She exaggerates it and makes it seem like she’s getting hate sent directly to her all the time. When in reality she’s just coming here and reading it herself voluntarily. To her all criticism is hate and no matter where it’s posted, even if she sought it out herself on a different site, it’s a direct attack rewords her and she has to let everyone know so they feel bad for her and increase her victim complex.

No. 781184

I just watched some of this girl's "urban exploration" videos. What the fuck is she thinking? She is not an explorer. She is a scared piece of shit who should just stick with what she knows best, toy videos and leave the exploring to the adults.

No. 781328

Yeah she's not an explorer. She can't even distinguish real blood from fake blood. Like duh people go to those places for photoshoots and bring fake blood and props. Honestly I'm semi afraid she's gonna get hurt cause she just doesn't seem too smart.

No. 781417

>>780720
Asides from her Urbex videos being boring, I just find most of her videos boring in general. Even back in the BJD hobby, she was boring and her dolls were boring. There's nothing interesting about her when it comes to any hobby or interests she has. It just seems like she rides whatever wave is popular in whatever hobby she's in.

Also what bugs me about her Urbex videos (the ones I've attempted to watch) is that there's no protective gear. Like what??? All these buildings she visits, they're bound to still have something wrong with them (lead paint, asbestos, etc) and yet she's not wearing any gear yet she does all these Urbex videos. Seems like she just jumped into ANOTHER hobby without fully doing research.

No. 781418

>>781417
It's funny, she bought a ton of gear (respirator, flashlight, new boots, new backpack, etc) and didn't end up using it for a lot of her urbex videos. She explicitly said she brought it with her once but then left it all in the car. She sure likes to spend money on stuff and get very little use out if it. Giving me ALR vibes.

No. 781528

>>781417
"Seems like she just jumped into ANOTHER hobby without fully doing research."

You are literally right. I mean fuck, you look at her hospital video and nursing home video and you can see that she's scared over nothing. She even left her friends behind being scared that someone else may be in the building yet, she has 2 other people with her she could use as protection, and leaving them behind isn't going to do anything because despite whatever she could do/not do, that's just 1 less person in the situation IF something were to happen.

She was barely prepared for shit.

And as you can see, she's highly obsessive over this urbex thing and seems like it's all she ever wants to talk about now.

She also says that she wants to redeem and prove herself and to her viewers that she's not scared and can do better and want to prove that she's an actual explore. Honestly, I do say let's give her the benefit of the doubt and just see how this goes…

Because who knows what's gonna end up happening in the long run.

If you read her stories she posts, it just seems like she's not really responsible and careful. Also seems like sooner or later she's probably going to end up getting caught by the police.

She says she's been wanting to do urbex videos since October (according to this site), but yet, she's was being super scared and left her friends behind…

Let's just see how this goes, who knows what's going to end up happening.

No. 781531

Also, this is Adam's video. Does anyone think this is real or is it fake? Heather didn't go with them apparently which is odd.

I'm guessing this is what she meant by her friends going exploring without her?

Just imagine her reaction if she would had seen the "blood" and the pentagram in the attic.

No. 781680

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>>781531
Before scrolling to the part in that video where they found the attic, my first thought was that I bet she's tried to take some quirky photo with it because she has to tried to take photos with shit like that before. (pic related)

No. 781700

>>781680
Heather wasn't in the video though

No. 781982

>>781700
I'm aware, I was describing what I think she'd do if she was there.

Side note, I don't know if places in PA look similar, but I feel like she might have already been here before?

No. 783157

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This has been her stories for the last day (or two days) on her accounts where it’s just a bunch of photos and kind of (ish) stereotypical gothic music. And then she decided to post related image that she’s an ~*~*~empath~*~*~.

God she is following whatever trendy shit is out there. Wouldn’t be surprised if she starts saying she’s a Wiccan or she does tarot readings or is into gems or whatever the new “trendy” thing now to be is.

No. 783202

>>783157
>Wouldn’t be surprised if she starts saying she’s a Wiccan
Oh god let's hope not.

This reminds me of michelle phan and her annoying empath stuff.

No. 783312

>>783202
This is reminding me of Kelly Eden when she was saying that she was empath.

No. 783319

She just wants to be "special" whether it's being empath, psychic, or whatever super power she thinks she has. Her attempts to be deep come off very shallow. And no one cares how you dress Heather.

No. 783329

She's been saying she's going to film for the main channel since Thursday, yet she hasn't done it at all. In fact she just keeps editing videos for her urbex channel and fucking around on social media. It's painfully obvious she doesn't give a shit about the main channel at all anymore and is just doing it to placate her subscribers. She's been hyping up this thrift haul video for like a week now and she still has not edited it, but she has all the time in the world to lip sync to bad music and post about her ~empath powers~ or whatever. She's clearly procrastinating hard, which would be fine and dandy if she didn't go around spouting about her divorce, how she desperately needs to make money and get out of her abusive relationship, how she wants to go on all these grand (expensive) adventures, and then neglecting her only source of income to edit videos that get 400 views.

No. 783370

If the main channel wasn't generating YouTube cash she would have quit it last year.

No. 783378

I think all she cares about is getting to her 1k subs on her Urbex channel so she can get it monetised or some shit like that so she can make more of that YT money. And then she'll have TWO channels to work on and thus start making snapchat complaints about how busy her life is and how stressed she is because of having to take care of TWO youtube channels.

No. 783379

>>783329
Honestly I think she could try vlogging herself going to antique stores for her main channel. She seams to be into antiquing now according to her instagram. It's kinda like thrift shopping and her thrifting vlogs have done pretty well in the past. If she's tired of doing hauls she could just show herself going to thrift stores.

No. 783403

A couple of hours ago on snapchat she want on a rant about how she's not really collecting toys anymore, and she's collecting "experiences" instead. She said she's still a collector, but now she's collecting things that are more "real and memorable." I'm sure all of her collector friends on instagram will just love her superior attitude about toy collecting now. It's clear she thinks toy collecting is just hoarding stuff from how she talks about it. She gets so much support from the instagram toy community, yet now she's going around casually insulting the hobby.

No. 783428

>>783403
What is she going to do with all those toys she's "collected"? If she's not going to be apart of the toy collecting hobby anymore is she going to just let it all collect dust in her room that she made to be her studio/toy collecting room? (I'm fairly certain she stated that in a video once or I'm just imaging shit now)

No. 783444

>>783428
I believe she's going to keep her collection and continue to make (forced) content out of it, but she's not actively looking to add to her collection anymore. Though she did just buy a Dream Beauty (vintage my little pony) the other day, so I'm not sure what I'm supposed to believe. She contradicts herself constantly.

No. 783530

>>783444
>>783403
She talked about changing up her collection room to have room for an antique/darker side. She also said that she is saving her money for new clothes and camera equipment. What about saving her money for leaving her husband? Is she just gonna stay with him forever? Honestly I hope she leaves him because I think he's creepy and gross and I also think she should learn to take care of herself and live on her own. But that's probably never going to happen. I at least hope she gets her driver's license.

No. 783532

>>783530
Haha, the driver's license, I totally forgot about that. She wouldn't shut up about it for a few days, talking about how she was going out to practice driving and take the test. Did she stop talking about it because she got her license or because she gave up on that aspiration too? She's constantly talking about shit she wants to do but never actually seems to do any of it (going out on ~spooky adventures~ doesn't count as doing shit Heather, actually taking care of adult responsibilities like getting your license and filming for your moneymaking channel do). The anon who compared her to Amberlynn Reid was onto something.

No. 783654

>>783530
She might not want to get that driver's license anymore because of that ""scary"" accident she was in the other month because she forced her friend to drive in a blizzard and she's SOOOOOOOO thankful to have made it out alive.

I also think she likes the idea of being carted around like some sort of "princess" so why even bother to "waste" money on a license? kek

That's totes a waste of her time. She'd rather have her "friends" cart her around to thrift stores, antique shops, and spook locations for filming and wasting her money at so she can be this vegan unicorn that's also a graveyard wanderder with a witchy side (most of these titles came from both her ig accounts kek and I think she's mentioned herself as a "witch" before in a caption).

No. 784053

>>783428

She'll sit on them and forget that selling them while she has a following is the most lucrative option and then have no audience whenever she remembers. Did anyone ever buy any of her BJDS?

No. 784054

Heather's finally getting around to filming for the main channel today. She filmed her thrift haul and said she was just getting ready to film a PO box opening. What do we predict, anons? I'm guessing she'll say that she felt soooooo hated and like nobody liked her anymore, but all these gifts and praise are just making her feel so loved again uwu~

No. 784091

>>784054

"These gifts just brightened up how hard and stressful everything has been lately with all the hate and everything happening!" something she'll most likely saying. kek

No. 784271

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That commenter had to inflate Heather’s ego on her “dark and spooky image”. Kek

No. 784466

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No hate, guys. She’s getting too much of it. Kek. She’s asking for it, tbh now.

No. 784482

>>784466
She keeps talking about how sexy she's dressing, but she's just wearing black clothes. Heather, most people wear black. I doubt it's that shocking to your followers.

One thing that is interesting tho is awhile ago she said that she really wanted get the confidence to start dressing the she wanted (aka fairy kei and pastel stuff) but now she's changed it up.

https://www.facebook.com/HeatherSparklesYT/videos/vb.884588221585461/1887874637923476/?type=2&theater This is what she looked like last april.

No. 784529

>>784482
I usually don't make fun of people for the way they dress as a rule, because if they're dressing the way they want to, who gives a shit. So Heather (I know you're reading this), wear whatever you want and don't feel bad if people "hate" on you for not wearing pastel clothes anymore. But fucking christ dude, shut up about your new ~sexy~ wardrobe. I can assure you, no one cares or is shocked by your black clothes. Like the other anon said, most people wear black. And another thing: just because it's black doesn't mean it's sexy or sultry or anything. You called an outfit "sexy" the other day on snapchat, but you were literally wearing black skinny jeans and a black boxy jacket. Nothing revealing or even form-fitting aside from the skinny jeans, and skinny jeans aren't inherently sexy at all.

I mostly just wish she'd stop putting so much emphasis on what she's wearing. It really feels like she's reducing her personality down to what color t-shirt she's wearing that day, and it's sad to see someone have so little sense of their personality and self worth that they base it on a color. End rant.

No. 784559

Watching her open all the packages from her subscribers when she clearly has no interest in pink or kawaii things is insanely uncomfortable. In the video she states she is saving up for a car, and that she is dying of lonliness, but whats new there.

No. 784561

>>784559
I've always been uncomfortable watching her PO box videos because she's always going on and on about how she has too many things, yet she's keeping her PO box open (which isn't cheap, and we all know how much she says she needs money) and getting tons of crap that you just know she doesn't like nor want. She always says "just send me letters!!!" but keeps encouraging her subscribers to send her big packages filled with dirty thrifted junk by making these unboxing videos. There's no way she can keep all of it, and you know half of it just gets donated to a thrift store once the video's over. But she's too… vain? Socially awkward? to tell her subs to stop sending packages and close her PO box.

No. 784570

>>784559
Honestly if shes sells her collection and all the uncleaned toy junk she has in her garage, she'd have the money for a used car in no time. Her subscribers are mostly toy collectors so they would buy it up really quick. Even for higher prices.

No. 784582

>>784570
Knowing her though, I doubt she’d settle for a used car. But does she realise she needs a license to drive? I feel like she would have spammed about it and celebrated if she got one. And getting a car won’t cure her loneliness, fixing herself would so then she could keep some friends. Did her Urbex friends get tired of her shit too?

No. 784640

>>784582
From what i gathered her urbex friends were adam and ashley zoe fox. Thinking about it we have not heard much from Daria since her birthday

No. 784786

She will do anything for attention. Wether it’s good or negative. She uses everyone and everything to achieve some internet fame then constantly complains about haters. She follows whatever trend there is out there and looks for a free ride. Her saying “ I can’t afford this…” is her reaching for someone to either pay for it or help by sending donations so she could spend it elsewhere. I’m still shocked it took her till she was 26 to get her GED.

No. 784789

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This goth thing isn’t new by the way. Here’s any eye opener to what she looks like without all the makeup and filters https://myspace.com/bloodlustraven/mixes

No. 784836

She posted snapchat that she's no longer making snaps because the stuff she posts makes people hate her. So confirmed lurker since no one is posting "hate" on her youtube and instagram.

No. 784913

>>784789
I knew she used to look like this way back when.. But the "goth" she's looking like now just seems so… I can't think of the word; maybe some other anon can fill in the blank.

Though those photos and her piercings made me remember waaayy back when when Heather would always complain about the hole under her lip her piercing left and wanted "plastic surgery" to get rid of it. What ever happened to wanting to do that?

No. 784914

>>784836
I don't know if it's like this if someone who doesn't frequent this site, but when I google Heather Sparkles – this thread shows up at the first few results… So yeah, she clearly googled herself and found this site and now lurks here and is seeing our chit-chat about her as hate.. When all in all, I see what we're doing is pointing out her BS and not falling for her BS and she's reeee-ing about it because we're not as blind as her Sparkle Fam.

No. 785053

Did she delete her Twitter as well?

No. 785068

>>784836
Yep, she posted earlier today that she's done with snapchat because it only gets her in trouble and it's why people hate her. She said she just goes on long rants without realizing that hundreds of people are going to see it. She said "I think this is my last snap, I'll see you on youtube and instagram."

>>785053
And yep, looks like she did deactivate her twitter again. Note again. She's done this before:
>>741270
>>741792

Don't worry, she'll reactivate it. My guess is after she's fully dropped the pastel stuff and has decided to finally break off from that hobby as well.

No. 785081

>>784640

So her friends are just another Urbex-er and her "abusive" (but is actually just a creeper-beta boii) husband?

No. 785605

>>785081
I don't think Ashley is an urbexer by trade, I think his YT channel is furry centric, and somehow him and Adam are good friends? I think it was Ashley who organised the youtuber meet in which Heather met Ryan (the guy she cheated on Adam with, and who stared all this drama). Ashley also helped Adam hospitalise her when all the bipolar drama went down.

No. 785728

>>785605
Honestly who is ryan? And why did he do that?

No. 785753

>>785728
Read the beginning of the thread to answer your questions. Basically Ryan is a random guy that Heather got the hots for, cheated on her husband with, and then she claimed he was a "master manipulator" and convinced everyone she knows that she's bipolar and needed to be hospitalized. Heather didn't provide any explanation or reason why Ryan might have done this. We're just kind of left to assume that he gets his kicks ruining people's lives or something.

No. 785936

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Heather has been posting a lot of "spiritual" stories on her urbex instagram account which is… It doesn't make sense. That stuff you should be posting on your main or personal account – not on your account that's for urbex. Clearly she's lurking on here still..

Side note; looks like Heather went "ghost hunting". Pic included just seem very.. Posed to me. You think (whenever this video comes out) that she's going to keep bringing up her whole empath thing during the video?

No. 785957

I know if she was lurking all that stuff that anon posted about her past and harassing them she would have lost her shit. She really dislikes that anon and is set on that anon trying to copy her. So if she was lurking I’d think she’d post something on that.

No. 785959

>>785957
I agree, I don't think she's lurking anymore (she definitely was in the past, or at least had an informant telling her everything being said). Heather's not the type to keep her thoughts to herself. I think she's managed to stay off of lolcow and would just rather write us all off as mean haters.

No. 787120

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I'm surprised that Heather got her Learner's Permit, but is she going to actually drive herself around?

But when I turned 18 so many years ago I was able to get my driver's license without going through getting a permit unless each US state is different THAT much?

No. 787122

>>787120
Same anon, also wanted to add didn't her sister turn 16 two months ago? Isn't that around the time some teens get their learner's permit? I just find it weird that she talked about it for a bit and went quiet about it for awhile, brought it up for a bit and then shut up about it and then posted this.. Normally when "famous" IG/YTers post shit like this, they always censor out last names and important info, etc.. But this is just an extreme close up of just "PA Learner's Permit. Please drive safely."

No. 787123

>>787120
>>787122
Its possible that nobody close to her ever taught her how to drive, so she would have to take lessons and get a permit before being able to do a behind-the-wheel license test. I didnt start learning until I was 18 and still got the permit before my real license, bc I took AAA classes.

Really sad that her husband seems to have never taught her, if thats the case.

No. 787255

It’s not that her husband didn’t teach her, she lacks the will to do. Why do it when you have people driving you around? From my experience from the past she wants everyone to do everything for her. Her YouTube got famous because she hitched rides on other YouTubers backs. Her new “fling” is her trying to do it by herself and that’s why she’s saying “ haters” because she really can’t do YouTube without a lot of help. Her ex got her most of the equipment she had before then Adam started buying her ball jointed dolls. She lacks. The self control to hold a YouTube channel. So if she actually gets a license I will be super surprised.

No. 787527

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Heather's planning on livestreaming later tonight (I think on instagram) if any of you want to catch it.

No. 787531

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No. 787539

She's streaming on instagram now. Right now she's talking about how she bought a ton of slime-making materials and when she announced that she would be making slime videos, "everyone said no, we won't watch those" so now she has a closet full of unused slime stuff.

Someone in the comments asked how she and Adam met and Heather said, "That chapter of my life is closed."

No. 787541

Well, she's finally admitted she doesn't give a crap about the toys anymore.

"I'm going to be 100% honest: I'm not into toys anymore. I love dark, spooky stuff and going on adventures. I don't know what to do. How do I explain instead of collecting toys, I wanna collect bones and stuff? I'm trying to figure it out, guys. How do I smash it all together so that I don't chase everyone away, how do I not chase away everyone I've built over all these years."

Apparently she's going to be on a "ghost hunting crew"? Some new project she's working on.

No. 787547

I figured I'd type up what she's saying in case my recording doesn't turn out. Sorry if this is a bit incoherent:

>"I collect antiques now."

>"I didn't like the fact I had to buy stuff create a video," yet she's still buying antiques and garbage?
>Literally right after she showed off some antique photograph and talking about her other new knickknacks she says she has "too MUCH STUFF YOU GUYS"
>"I'm thinking about going to the main channel and changing the name or something. The new channel is an experiment."
>"I look at all the colors and I'm kind of disgusted now."
>Her therapist said "You look so cute! You look like I can take you seriously now" when she came in wearing all black.
>She will find out next week if she will get the chance to try out for this team. She was ghost hunting until 4:30 in the morning.
>"I feel like I'm not welcome on the channel anymore."
>Started bone-collecting.
>"Collects tin types" but admits she hasn't researched it and can't answer any questions about them.
>She has five garbage bags filled with depop clothes.
>Trying to get out to Ohio for their cemeteries.
>She keeps repeating "that chapter of my life has closed" whenever Adam is mentioned.
>Wants to go to Philly in April to get to Eastern State Penitentiary.
>She admits the main channel is her job and she has to be careful what she posts on there.
>She's saving up for a car right now. She says she'd love to sell of some of her collection to go towards the car. She realizes her collection is too big.
>They (assuming Adam and Ashley) ditched Heather to go to Ohio to film this weekend.
>She would like to make merch sometime.

She said she's switching to the explore instagram and streaming there now.

No. 787556

>>787547
I don't think she has the "personality" to be in a ghost hunting crew. She doesn't even play it safe when doing urbex, so I highly doubt she'll play it safe when it comes to ghost hunting – it's more than the whole standing in a "spooooky building with a tape recorder and asking questions".

No. 787594

>>787255
…were you trying to reply to >>787123 ?

Make it less obvious that you're not a farmer next time by, y'know, using what functions the board gives you. Fuck I wish Heather was more outrageous so that it would be worth it for mods to confirm which posts belong to her husband. It's already obvious to the average user, kid.

No. 787599

Adam and her met in San Francisco. She cheated on her ex at the time with him and Adam cheated on his gf at the time with Heather. That chapter is closed because she was a super super shitty person then. Worse then she is now.

No. 787611

>>787541
>>787547
Hard to watch because she's going through a midlife crisis while talking like a 13 year old. I don't understand how she's loved toys for years and said they make her feel better yet decides to dump them mid trying to leave her husband. She'll regret it when she settles down. If she wants to make money so bad she should be doing all the videos she can on her main, like talking about the history of toys she's promised forever or simply going through all the "junk" she collected. Plenty of people wanted to see her do DIY's or vlogs-but she can't be bothered to ever finish a Vlogmas, and spent all that money on a tablet which she's too lazy to learn how to draw on anymore. Her fans will also buy up anything she sells but here we are again, bitching about her hoard while doing nothing about it. Next hoard will be antiques which she'll blame on her fans for many likes on the hauls.

No. 787699

The stream on the explore channel was less interesting. She said wants to make her own "oddities" out of things she finds in the forest. She currently has a bird skull and a monarch butterfly. She also called herself a "depressed and lonely bitch" multiple times.

She also said "I wake up screaming all the time," which I thought was funny.

No. 787748

>>787699
This new "persona" (should we call it that?) that she's going for it just.. Horrible. She's trying so hard to make a 180 to turn into someone totally different. Is she going to be Heather Oddities instead of Heather Sparkles now? Heather Darkness? Heather Abyss? (These are sounding like rejected goth/scene names now)
Like she has done in the past, she changes herself when she's running from something, so what is she running from now? Her toy hobby? I highly doubt she caused drama there. She's loved by her fans, so what gives?

No. 787776

>>787748
Don't give her ideas. I could totally see her going for Heather Darkness lmao.

>so what is she running from now?

She's mentioned in the past that "people have said she's abandoning her toy channel" and "people were apparently crying over her no longer doing thrift hauls". But honestly that sounds so hard to believe coming from her. Who would react like that, literal children?

No. 788623

>>785068
10 days later and she's back to posting on snapchat. Are we surprised? Not at all.

No. 791504

I got one can’t stand her content her rings look like they’re from a gum ball machine

No. 791549

Heather posted an introduction video on her Heather Explores channel.

>Explains why she made the explore channel (people on her main channel weren't having the explore vids)

>Claims to be a paranormal investigator
>Researches a different paranormal topic each week to "learn as she goes"
>Wants to bring ghost-hunting to the channel
>Talks about the antiques she likes (photographs, old keys, Victorian era stuff, mourning items)
>Wants to do cemetery videos, will eventually make the headstone symbolism video
>She says she's "highly empathic" and can feel how other people are feeling
>Says she's always trying to help her friends with their problems because she can understand how they're feeling
>Talks about her cat Timmy (no mention of Tuna, though she obviously has a favorite and almost never talks about Tuna anyway)
>Has a tattoo planned based off of her favorite abandoned place
>Wants to do fashion videos on the channel as well, though she's not sure how much of her audience would like that
>Might do thrifting videos
>Wants to do videos where she creates oddities and other art pieces
>Wants to get a grimy, hole-filled map for her background (her words)

No. 791550

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>>791549
She also posted this and pinned it in the comments of the intro video. Maybe she got one mean comment saying she was egotistical or something and felt the need to put this out there.

No. 791645

If she was “empathetic “ she wouldn’t have wished a bloody miscarriage on someone she was having beef with. Her attitude is so egotistical and attention whoreish. There’s a difference between connecting with your fans and saying look at me you need to love me do it now.

No. 791653

>>791645
That miscarriage thing hasn't been confirmed anywhere, so I wouldn't go spreading that around unless you have proof. Also I don't get the feeling that she's saying "look at me, love me, do it now." Reeks of vendetta or Adam.

No. 791658

I’m friends with the anon who posted that. I was in the text chat when it happened. Everything that anon said is true, but due it being in 2010 no one took photos. Why take Photos of that? To be reminded someone hates you that much to wish death in their baby?

No. 791659

>>791658
Sorry, we can't just go around accusing people of saying such a horrible thing without proof. Not saying it didn't happen, but there are standards of evidence for a reason.

No. 791661

And yes I dislike Heather. She would constantly discuss her sex life and whine about how no one likes her. Her talking in that high pitches cute voice was how she talked to most of the guys we were playing with. She dated half of my online friend list. MidnightWesker, Darksteeldragon, Spuurrzz etc. That was when she went by Jill_BSAA. Annons online was angelofice ( I post this because due to the overwhelming harassment my friend anon received she changed her psn) All evidences if Heather harassing her on Kandi Acid and KittyRavage was deleted by Heather or YouTube/Twitter which anon had to fight to get taken down.

No. 791663

>>791661
I dislike Heather too, so we're on the same page there. Everything we know about Heather says that she changes her personality often and to suit whoever she's talking to, and it's clear that (from her old videos on her gaming channel) she was the type to say edgy things to get reactions out of people. So what I will say is that what you're claiming she said doesn't sound out of character for her. Any anons who choose to believe you, that's their prerogative. I hope you understand, though, that without any solid evidence at least pointing to what you're claiming, we can't take what you've said as concrete fact about Heather's past.

No. 791669

Yup. Just keep an eye out or she’ll stab you in the back. My friend is pretty and smart and Heather destroyed her confidence for a while by putting my friends face on a picture of Free Willy. As a matter of fact sometimes I think Heather tries to copy her here and there that’s just my opinion. Its one sided. I’d give you a link to her page but she’s been off for a while due to having a baby and I don’t think she’d want her link up for Heather to see.

No. 791677

Ugh meant her stupid phone. Excuse the typos guys

No. 791685

>>791669
Don't post your friend's link if you don't have permission.

No. 791687

Yea I know. I wouldn’t. She has a good following doesn’t need Heather or anyone trying to ruin it.

No. 791712

>>791549
Sage for irreverent but maybe Tuna likes adam more idk? and that's why she doesn't talk about or show her anymore.

No. 791747

>>791549
Considering she didn't follow through with most of the things she promised on her main channel, she should have been smart and not set up expectations for herself she probably won't live up to again. Also, she said she disliked thrifting and being materialistic just because it got lots of views, yet she's going to thrift again for spooky things? Maybe get rid of your garage toy hoard before buying a new one. I'd like to see her get all this stuff done but she most likely won't.

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Heather posted this the other day. And she likes bringing up “haters” up a lot out of nowhere as of lately too.

No. 792210

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She says she's "coming back to the main channel," but it's not like she left? She posted a video on her main channel yesterday. Does this mean she's giving up on the explore channel and is just going to post all her explore content on the main channel again? And what do you think she means by "cleaning up her social media accounts"?

No. 792438

>>792210
God she's such a fucking mental train wreck. I have been watching her Insta, Snap, and YT intently lately and and this chick needs serious mental help

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She’s still lurking.. and recently too. If she doesn’t like what we’re saying just block the site. It’s not that hard.

No. 792592

Lol I’m surprised she hasn’t lost her shit about that anon posting about what she did to them. Maybe not lurking maybe getting fed certain info?

No. 794021

Heather just posted on snapchat that she just got done filming her "return to youtube," but she literally hasn't gone anywhere. Why does she keep acting like she left?

No. 794469

New video.

I found it telling when she was talking about her book of spells bag, the first thing she had to say about it was how many compliments it gets her.

She also had the forethought to know that her audience would find this video about her mildewy, moldy antiques boring but uploaded it anyway.

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Why does this girl think having a lolcow thread means she's the most hated person in the world?

Heather, if you want to see what a remotely hated person's threads look like, you should have a look the multiple shay gnar or momokun threads. This tiny thread is nothing to worry about.

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Here's everything that she posted on that post, the photos she included are just her old "goth phase" photos we've all seen from 10+ years ago:
> For everyone giving me a hard time over my new aesthetic. This was me in 2006. Even back then with as far as I went to express myself and following all the rules, I still wasn’t enough and I was the outcast of the outcasts and was called a poser all the time. I dressed this way and followed my interests until I fell into the kawaii scene in recent years, where people were much nicer, but I couldn’t stay away forever. And here we are now, 2019 being called a poser like it’s high school all over again. 🙄 I wanted to clarify what exactly I am. Im not Goth, I know Ive used the word before and I apolagize. Im a weird girl, a spooky unicorn, Im Heather Michelle. Ive always been fascinated by life’s mysteries, Vampires, the paranormal, antiques and oddities and the Occult. I always loved history and old places. And wearing black always made me feel my best. I just love expressing myself through my clothing. I was destined to come back here. You can call me a fake all you like, I dont need anyone’s validation anymore. Im gonna collect my antiques, hunt ghosts, explore abandoned places, wear amazing black outfits, do my cemetery photography and LIVE MY LIFE MY WAY no matter what. 👻🖤 So keep on sipping on that hater-aide, Im done trying to please people. 😎 I don’t need to fit in with any scene, Im making my own way and happiness in this world even if I gotta be all alone. Id rather be me than a sheep. 🦄 Im too old for this petty shit! Live and let live! Im always learning but I AM enough, and I will continue to spread kindness and create something beautiful with my time on Earth.

My suggestion is that if she has a problem with what people say.. Maybe she should just stop lurking here? Because every time she posts about "haters" or something else that just seems out of the blue about some sort of negativity towards her, it's clear that she's getting it from here. And if she's not personally lurking here but having someone else do it, maybe they should just stop. She's making a mountain out of a molehill.

No. 794810

Also something else I notice since I follow both her accounts, I've seen her Heather_Explores page like a lot of things she'll post on her "main" Heather Sparkles instagram account.

No. 794853

She’s fake nice. If she was really comfortable with who she is she wouldn’t have to justify herself through a post. I get the sane “ If you don’t have haters you’re not doing anything right” but she just needs to get some psychological help and do some soul searching by getting off the internet. She obviously needs everyone’s approval, why else complain? She’s too attention whoreish and no shes not a pose, she’s a sad human being who needs lots of help. Not drowning herself in a “phase”

No. 794867

I did some digging. Her original name before all this online was Jill_BSAA. She was a HUGE cam show girl from the person I talked to about her. Also chopped her hair off dyed it and tried to act and look like Jill from the RE series. Unfortunately I can’t reveal my source. But I think she clearly needs help. Not based off of what I was told but based off her content. Her content is terribly boring.

No. 795178

>>794867
That's cute and all, Anon, but

>>791661
>>779880
>>779028

your sooper sekrit source is literally this thread lmfao. Clocking a poster as being Heather's husband is getting sooooo old.

No. 795211

Lol no my source isn’t this thread, I didn’t even bother reading over 90 percent of the comments.

No. 795276

>>795211
So you just dropped in with information already in the thread to fake flex? Sure.

The alleged cam girl information is news to me but I'm no expert on her history. Wouldn't it be fairly easy for her to just get money that way again? It's got to be more sustainable than the current schtick and from earlier comments in the thread she has literally no reason not to.

No. 796298

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I guess she cheated? Who tf knows

No. 796313

>>796298
I was going to post this too. Adam's vagueposting is more aggravating than most things Heather does. I'm guessing she cheated too. Though I haven't seen her gushing about some new guy anywhere, so maybe a one night Tinder fuck? Or maybe she started camming again, wouldn't that be hilarious.

No. 796434

It appears that most of her photos are taken off of google or something because almost every photo on her explore page seems to be taken by someone who knows how to use a camera, not her.

No. 796439

>>794867
Lol why the hell would someone “clearly need help” because their internet content is boring? Wtf?

No. 796440

>>796434
Her photography isn’t good at all. It’s not hard to use a camera in automatic mode (or even manual tbh) and then edit it to look semi decent to people who have no idea about photography. All of her photos have terrible composition, are edited way too much and just generally look like shit. I’m sure they’re hers.

No. 796586

I think the anon saying clearly needs help is basing it off her attitude and the whole Adam thing. Which is true she needs a lot of mental help

No. 796620

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>>796586
So apparently Heather is sperging and shes deleted her twitter again

No. 796621

>>796620
Her twitter has been down for a while. Haven't been following it recently very much but I tried to check a few days ago and it was down.

No. 796624

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This is Damian Broody. I am Heather's new BF. I don't know why you guys won't stop harassing her. We are in love. This needs to stop.

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I might've found Heather's new side piece. She posted something really briefly to her insta story that said "go follow @abbaddon" or something. I didn't get a good look at it because she deleted it too fast. But going through her followed accounts, I'm pretty sure it's @_abadd0n because he's from Pennsylvania, he does urbex, and Heather and him (I think his name is Damo? Damien?) have been talking in his instagram comments about doing things together and sending a fuckload of heart emojis back and forth.

No. 796634

>>796624
>>796629
Yep, I was right. Okay dude, gtfo. You can waste your time with Heather all you want, but there's literally no point in trying to get this thread to go away. None of us are harassing Heather. If you knew one singular thing about this board before you posted (which is obvious you don't because your post is riddled with errors and you put your real name) you would know that we don't reach out to the cow in any way, we just sit back and watch. If Heather is receiving any harassment, it's not from us. But my guess is she got a few mean youtube comments and then came crying to you about it.

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>>796629
Nauseating. What grown man speaks in kissing emojis?

No. 796641

Lol “we are in love”. She’s just using you like she used Adam xD I mean Adam is trash don’t get me wrong but so is Heather. And you’re her new BF, which looks terrible because you’re openly cheating with a married woman xD Let me guess, she said she needs you to get away from an abysive husband and she wants to move in with you ASAP? You do all the urbex work and if you don’t “help” she throws a fit? Did she get ya via cam shows like she used too? You got a real winner xD

No. 796645

>>796640
I think he’s secretly gay. Only people I know who talk like that are either pretending to be together or are gay

No. 796646

>>796624
Too cringey. So deeply madly in love to a emotionally immature, married women who relies on everyone else to take care of her, so of course you have to directly address a very small, barely active gossip thread. Most of us want Heather to live a better life and grow up, don't come here to cry about the few people who dislike her. Maybe tell her husband to quit lurking here instead and tell her to not care what anyone says because she's clearly still crying about it after endlessly saying she doesn't care.

No. 796647

>>796624
Lol. What guy number are you? She’s cheated on Adam several times before you and recently, so are you #6? Are you aware of the fact she’s married? Are you aware of the fact once a cheater always a cheater? She apparently met Adam by cheating on her ex with him from what I’ve read. Be prepared to get shat on by her.

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No. 796658

>>796624
Tinfoil but did heather post this herself?

No. 796660

>>796658
If she did, it was real shitty of her to post his full name. I just think this guy isn't all that bright and wanted to bust in here and tell the bullies off to look like Heather's knight in shining armor.

No. 796662

>>796658
I'm currently researching this Damian person. Once I have enough on him I will drop the information

No. 796663

>>796662
I went through his facebook and didin't really find much of note, and I couldn't bring myself to go through his lame instagram. I hope you found something other than those two sources because they both seemed pretty dry.

No. 796687

Knowing Heather she played the victim card in him. Just how she played the “my sister went crazy and is trying to kill me” bit she used ten years ago on multiple people. Anything to chase the high of being a victim and getting “saved”

No. 796748

Damien looks so familiar. I sweat I've seen his face before..
Also, Heather does use another twitter but only posts her explore shit on it - https://twitter.com/Heather_Exp

I was also trying to remember her back-up twitter she'd use when she used KittySparklesYT (this account would retweet everything she posted) because there was a post on there that I regret not screencapping where she was replying back to the last dude she was with,.

No. 796750

https://twitter.com/KittyRavage - the tweets are protected.. So.. There's no way of finding that message I was talking about regretting not screencapping.

No. 796785

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Her husbands Twitter still says they’re together. He’s been quiet on Twitter tho.

No. 796787

>>796785
Yeah, they're still married. He's getting majorly cucked and is whining about it on the internet. Honestly this whole thing is equal parts sad and hysterically funny to me.

No. 796792

>>796787
I know right? Makes my time pooping in the bathroom more enjoyable. Great poop reads.

No. 796798

Just saw a thing about an instagram blog crying because she had to get a 9-5 job. That’s going to be Heather xD

No. 796812

>>796787
Right? Just get a divorce, dumbass, nothing’s going to change.

No. 796845

Guys, Can we stop claiming that she cheated on her husband with this dude. She wasn’t with him and hasn’t been with him in awhile. Just because they’re legally married doesn’t mean jackshit, it’s expensive and takes awhile to get a divorce. She has made it very clear she isn’t interested in Adam and doesn’t want to be with him and is no longer with him, he is just fucking delusional and creepy as fuck with it still saying they’re together on his twitter and making updates saying she cheated when they’re not even in a relationship. Dude needs to get over himself and back off.

No. 796846

Maybe if Heather would stop being a cheating little twat then she would be in a better state of mind. Adam pays for everything. Her cell phone. Her health insurance. He expensive vegan food. Rent. Utilities. All paid for by Adam. After this shit, I have to say I highly doubt Adam will want to stay with her anyway. I think he will give her divorce papers and kick her ass out. These guys she keeps trying to "date" don't want relationships. They want a piece of ass or pussy. Nothing else.

No. 796850

>>796846
That’s Adams choosing. They haven’t been together in awhile and he’s chooses to continue doing all this stuff for her despite the fact she’s made it clear she doesn’t want to be with him anymore. Hopefully he does finally get the hint and leave her. She should just find a job, any job and rent a room somewhere or maybe she’ll move in with this new guy. Whatever she chooses to do she needs to get away from Adam and find her own place to live and stand on her own two feet.

No. 796852

It’s not claiming, it’s an honest fact she cheats/cheated on Adam. I don’t care if you’re not happy or he’s a piece of shit, those are excuses. Separation can happen and they both can sign a paper stating it but neither wish to because they’re both attention seeking drama whores. Adam has cheated on Heather, two wrongs don’t make a right. Heather is known to cheat. Adam is known to cheat just separate and go fuck up other people’s lives and whine about how you guys can’t find anyone “ worthy” because once a cheater always a cheater.

No. 796856

What honestly boggles me is that he used to whine like she was lording how out of his league she was over his head, but he seems to not only seek out women who don't want him - while being all ;) it's fine only I get in trouble if Heather sees it - but now he wants to cling desperately to this dead horse? He's clearly garbage, but his focus on her supposed cheating just seems childish and like a pity gambit. Yeah, you're married on paper. But you also know she doesn't want you, she has never loved you, and she never will love you, whether it's because she isn't capable of that kind of sincere connection, or because you (Adam) are an abusive twat.

Just divorce. Split. End the shitshow.

No. 796859

>>796852
I’m not claiming she has never cheated I’m saying this instance is not cheating. They haven’t been together. The paper doesn’t matter if in their day to day life they aren’t a couple and don’t act like one. Despite them being legally married they were both single even though Adam doesn’t want to believe that.

>>796846

From what I’ve seen from Adam I wouldn’t be surprised if he insists on paying for all that just so he can hold it over her head and use it against her.

No. 796921

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>>796859
So i did some digging and this Damian person has had quite a criminal background history. I couldn't find anything on PA's Unified Judicial website but again that's probably because he was under 18 when he committed these offenses. The 2 that got me was purchasing alcohol as a minor and then driving while under the influence of alcohol. I guess Heather likes bad boys. Well that seems about right as she's a sociopath. (Incoming Image Flood)
>>796859

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>>796942 when I was clipping these I skipped a number LOL

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No. 797004

>>796921
Wow, what a winner. I know people shouldn't necessarily be held to things they did as a minor, but this guy was 18 when all of these were committed. Shoplifting, loitering, physical harassment (hilarious as he accused us of harassment)… I see the one where he purchased alcohol underage but I'm not seeing the drunk driving. Either way, this guy seems to be about on Heather's maturity level, so maybe they're ~uwu in love and perfect for each other~ or maybe, just maaaaaaaaybe, this is another one of Heather's desperate attempts to get male attention and this guy will do something "manipulative" soon and Heather will drop him just as fast as Ryan, the Tinder one night stand, and her husband.

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No. 797007

>>797004
i'm trying to upload them as fast as i can the board has flood protection enabled so i can only upload one every couple of minutes at a time

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No. 797009

>>797007
Fair, take your time! Thanks for doing the sleuthing. I just saw that there was a 3 hour gap since your last post, so I thought you were done.

No. 797010

>>797009
heh i had to run some errands hence the delay

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No. 797037

>>797036
And that's all i have on him. Enjoy

No. 797048

I didnt need to read screencap after screencap of a then-teenager getting in trouble for being out after curfew, lmfao. Boring and bitter of you.

But thanks for the violence and alcohol ones, that's kinda creepy. I wonder if he punches walls.

>>797024

Are you completely new and stupid? We don't cowtip. If Adam is the only one posting milk in this thread, he could at least post any latest cringey tweets or posts of his own.

No. 797052

>>797036
And that's all i have on him. Enjoy
>>797048
Who cares its called doxing. You don't leave shit out. Plus I don't give to shits in hell who hates my posts if you dont like it..then ignore it

No. 797057

>>796845
If you don’t have much and no children like Adam and Heather, then you can get a divorce fairly quickly; especially if both parties agree. If Adam wants to divorce and Heather doesn’t and fights to stay with them, then it can cost a good chunk and take a long time. My divorce only costed me the fee to file it and it was done in less than a week. Adam and heather don’t own any real estate. I bet any cars they may own are in Adam’s name. I bet the biggest thing is that’s heather’s mum doesn’t want her to move in with her if the two do divorce or maybe her mum/parents are oblivious to this all and don’t know any of this is happening.

But also with the childish ways Damien and Heather are acting with their emoji-filled comments on IG and other shit, it won’t last long. This will all crumble down around her and bite her in the ass in the end.

No. 797076

>>797024
No cowtipping. Don't do this.

No. 797079

The amount of petty posts about his teenaged criminal record, the doxxing, and the strange way that Damian announced his presence in the thread >>796624 is giving me whiffs of Adam. I wouldn't doubt that Adam knows exactly who this guy is, his full name and phone number, and has angrily looked up his past criminal record to smear him on here. And we know that Adam has access to Heather's phone, so he for sure could've gotten his number and that pic of Damian and Heather together. Idk, whoever posted all these screencaps of his criminal offenses definitely has a vendetta, Adam or not.

No. 797086

>>797079

I will say this. I am not Adam. I don't even like him but I am tired of what this pink nightmare thinks she can get away with. Bottom line is, it's not hard to get someone's info if you are willing to look into it for more than 5 minutes.

No. 797090

>>797086
Exactly that’s how I found out who heather was harassing and bullying.

No. 797151

Heather posted a video on her instagram story saying that people are emailing and calling Damian and harassing him. Don't. Tip. The. Cow. People. You guys are being fucking retarded. She said she's going to take "protective measures" now, so good job, the milk may run dry now because of your idiocy. Learn board culture and don't just come here to get info on Heather so you can harass her. Jesus christ.

No. 797155

>>797151
By the way so you know doxing is legal all this information is available publicly. There isn't shit she can do about it

No. 797157

>>797155
God you're dense. Posting the info is not the problem. Interacting with Damian and Heather is. Don't call him, don't email him, don't talk to him at all. That's called cowtipping and is against the rules because this website is just for documenting and discussing cows, not trying to interact with them or change their behavior. You clearly have an intense vendetta against Heather and are just so pleased with yourself that there "isn't shit she can do about it." You're pathetic.

No. 797160

>>797157
I'm not doing anything I personally was saying that doxing isn't illegal. I didnt drop all that info

No. 797162

>>797160
Literally no one here was under the impression that doxxing is illegal.

No. 797187

>>797151
I don’t see said video

No. 797189

>>797187
It's on her @heathersparklesyt instagram story.

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>>797187
That’s all I’m seeing

No. 797194

>>797192
Tap her profile picture.

No. 797195

>>797189
Maybe because I’m not subscribed? Just don’t feel like following her at this moment

No. 797197

>>797194
Ah couldn’t get thru it. That filter is annoying.

No. 797198

>>797192
Your profile picture is visible.

No. 797202

>>797198
That’s fine it’s my baby she’s adorable

No. 797209

So watching that video she posted on IG, i got the feeling that she feels like some of the stuff that’s posted here is evil Adam’s doings or something because I don’t know how Adam ever has time to do whatever she claims he’s doings. The man works a full time job that gives me 40+ hours I bet. So how is Adam able to get a whole bunch of people to go after Heather? I bet he’s trying to reach to her now ex-friends and asking what he should do because no matter who they are this whole relationship situation to be just fucking sucks. I bet Heather just never tells him anything that goes in her head and Adam has to go to her “friends” just to see what’s going on in her mess of a fucking head.

No. 797210

>>797198
If people can find my instagram thru the pic then I’d have more people to talk too LOL. Back on subject tho the video filter was too bright and annoying for me. She could be saying the cure for cancer and I couldn’t get thru it. I think she needs to redo it without the filter. Just my opinion

No. 797213

>>797209
Adams no saint. He got Heather by convincing her to cheat on her ex with him. Her ex was Adams best friend in San Francisco. Heather isn’t a saint either, she openly harassed her ex on Twitter while with Adam and drug her ex around with her and Adam. I think even if you work 40+ hrs a week if there’s a will there’s a way. Heather is manipulative and probably told her friends how “abusive” he is when he probably is but she is worse. She physically and mentally abuses her boyfriends. She also abuses her friends emotionally.

No. 797215

>>797197
I lol'd when she referred to Adam as her "Ex" LOL

No. 797217

Ugh. Watching her video is just…. ugh. Acting like we are going to physical hurt her? What? Come at me not my douche bf? What? I’m looking into shealters because I’m not safe but I can’t call the cops or get a restraining order on my so called abusive husband, WHAT? Victim mentality. Right there I don’t need anymore evidence.

No. 797227

On Heather's snapchat story, she said that Adam has a Tinder account and has been messing around with her female fans for a while. She also said that recently Adam said, "Fifty dollars is a lot of money to you, right?" and when Heather said yes, he said, "I'll pay you fifty dollars to have sex with me."

No. 797235

>>797227
That’s actually sad. And Adams been hitting on anything that moves because Heather isn’t putting out emotionally or physically that means their relationship is dead. Get a divorce or start it then move on. Heathers been cheating on Adam as long if not longer than he has.

No. 797240

>>797235
what proof is there that Adam has been hitting on other women? Lets see it? Share with the rest of the class here

No. 797243

>>797240
If you’ve followed heathers snaps and also read comments way way above there is a person here who Adam hit on.

No. 797248


No. 797249

>>797243
I don't have snapchat and I refuse to get it.

No. 797274

Heather ended up deleting all the posts on her IG story regarding her rant about her "boyfriend" and how Adam "might do something hOrRiBle to her."

No. 797317

https://www.dropbox.com/s/msx9a6flftznmka/Damian.mp4?dl=0

Heather's full snap story. Sorry the audio is out of sync, but everything's there. The story does actually cut off where it ends like that.

No. 797326

Love how she attacks the anon who posted about her. I’ve been friends with said anon and I know it’s been 10 years and the anon honestly was just happy Heather’s getting her karma. She said her said source lived with anon in real life I can tell you that’s bull. Anon married one of the guys Heather tried to manipulate into being with her and anon is friends with Heathers ex from San Francisco. Jealous of her I doubt that. Anon has a beautiful life. Anon again just wanted to see Heather get her karma because she fucked her up so badly. I’m sure Heather has messed up other people too. So it’s good she’s getting her just deserts.

No. 797331

I’ll put in my two cents again. I’m the said person heather talks about in snap. No it hasn’t been 7 years, it’s been 10 like my friend stated. Yes it’s been long. Yes she harassed me like I stated before attacking me, attacking my ex Scott, the one she dated and cheated on with Adam. She physically abused Scott. She posted my information all over online. She wished a bloody miscarriage on me, my husband now was in said chat when it happened. She let her followers photoshop my face on a whale, flagged my YouTube so I could no longer have one. So yes I am here to see karma served. No, no one I lived with is in contact with Heather. Said person in contact with Heather is someone from my past who has a vendetta out for me because her ex’s wanted to date me. Yes I have had problems mentally for a while, Heathers harassment extent was death threats, body shaming and emotional distress. On that note I don’t wish for people to be posting her bfs information because she did that to me. No one should stoop to her level. And last note, if it wasn’t for her constant bullying I wouldn’t have met my husband. He helped get a lot of it down. He’s the best thing to happen to me and if it wasn’t for the path she took me down I wouldn’t have met him. But that’s say. I’m older now and do wish she can get help to better herself, I did. I’m not saying I’m innocent in this either I did my fair share of attacking back then, it was mostly to defend myself. Do I wish I went about it differently? Yes. Did we try and patch things up? Once. Only once then she did everything to ruin it. Again that’s my peace. I do hope she finally gets help and gets someone to love as much as I love my husband.

No. 797334

I’d also like to state that during the time Heather harassed me I was resentful because my ex dumped me then dated her. At that time in my life I was going through a downward spiral that lasted up to about 4 years ago. So my mentality was fucked up by her but not just her there other contributing factors. I just wanted to state that so you all don’t think I’m blaming my past problems on just her, it was a whole ball of fuckery. But this thread isn’t about that. Again please don’t stoop to her level and harass her boyfriend. Let karma and the world work it out in its own. To her fans stay with her you will help her thru one of her most difficult times and to the people who don’t care for her just keep it to that’ and this post. I get we all need to vent and gossip but please don’t do anything other than that. With that said enjoy your guys evening and I don’t mind sharing anything with you all I’m used to being put out there I have nothing to hide.

No. 797362

>>797317

There’s just a lot to point out “wrong” here. How long as her and Damien been dating? A week? And they’re in love and wanting to spend the rest of their lives together, etc? What are they, Mormon? She sounds like a teenager gushing over her next boyfriend. As for the comment she made about Adam saying he’d pay her $50 to have sex with her; sounds like he said that as a joke (badly executed one in my opinion) because it seems like she won’t touch him anymore if she’s out having sex with other dudes, hence why he has a tinder too. You know, maybe if she put on her big girl pants and learned how to communicate and communicated with Adam and stopped acting like a child on Snapchat and dealt with things in private all this would be over and done with? What the fuck is she trying to accomplish? More pity points? I just don’t understand this. If Adam was “totes abusive”, he would not get her family against her. He would find ways to isolate her from family. She would have her family there to help her, but she doesn’t it seems like. Ever. She has went on before in the past about shelters and getting protection but she never did it. It’s all talk and no action. Always.

It’s a constant loop now with Heather.
Silence, new boy in life, “I’m in an abusive relationship” and “Ilm getting a divorce”, part 2 silence, no new boy, she goes back to “normal”, silence, new boy in life, repeat.

No. 797365

>>797362
Yep all traits of sociopath behavior. Chick needs to be in the fucking nut house

No. 797376

Hasn't she been "in love" like 4 or 5 times since October?!

No. 797499

>>797376
Lol I believe so. She's a mental case

No. 797597


No. 797730

>>797597
You sound retarded and waste most of your time harping about time limitations instead of getting to the point. Stop self-promoting and just write it down, we don't need to see that face and listen to you lisping your way through your half-baked thoughts anyway.

No. 797735

I love the idea and concept. Plus who cares about a speech issues get the story out there.(samefagging)

No. 797749

>>797735
Going to assume you are the insta chick. I can see what you were aiming for but you would have been better just writing it all here. Heather will probably just harass you again now

No. 797799

>>797597
You seem just as self-centered as Heather.

No. 797804

>>797749
Honestly I don’t mind. Got the story out so I’m good. Only reason is because it’s my story to tell not hers or the so called person she has who lived with me. I did write it out here as well. I’m not looking for followers so if you took the time to watch it I appreciate it. Now go back to Heather talk I got my peace said. I hope you all have a good day !(no1curr)

No. 798025

You mean the story of self promoting that sounds hardly believable. Zero evidence of proof, that whole story you told sounded make believe. No one cares about your make believe pretendo story, what we want is just the facts, with proof to back them up.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 798371

Someone sours salty plus this is le dead(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 798471

>>798371
You're right anon. Unless something else comes up, I think it might be time to put this cow out to pasture.

No. 798870

Heather posted a new toy room tour video. She's filming it because she's going to be packing it all up and moving soon (moving in with Damian?). She sounds immensely bored the entire time.

No. 798949

>>798870
She doesn’t sound bored to me but this made me realize who she reminds me of. She really sounds like Moira from fallout 3 sometimes

No. 798969

>>798870
She probably sounds bored because she does this exact video every couple of months despite not changing any of the set ups ever. Though it is mindless easy content to produce for a few clicks

No. 799223

>>798870
I don't think she's moving in with Damien, I haven't seen Adam saying anything – normally he would have if something like this was happening.

Also, why can't she just use her normal voice? I swear she uses a different voice on her main channel compared to her Urbex channel.

No. 800749

>>799223

Yeah, I have known her personally for 4+ years. She puts out a "child-like" persona when doing her videos on her toy channel to relate to the mindless drones (er Kids) that watch her channel (although according to Mary Kay Sparkles (LOL) her audience is mostly adult women (I HIGHLY doubt that).

No. 800750

>>799223
I don't think she knows how to use her normal voice, probably part of her mental disability.

Also shes been abnormally quiet I wonder why? So has Adam for that matter

No. 800751

So apparently she quit her Youtube just to post shitty pics on Insta. She was making at least something on Youtube and she now thinks she will be able to live off of Insta (oh, right, it's because her new BF hates Youtubers and only does Insta).

No. 800752

>>800751
LOL I wonder how long she'll quit Youtube for. A week, a Month, 6 Months? Care to start a pool?

No. 800789

>>800751
she posted on her youtube status thing that she is making new videos on Tuesday

No. 802118

With all the posts I've seen Heather do on IG during her "quiet time", I just find it disappointing to see that she was so adamant on getting out of her relationship with Adam and becoming her own person, etc., only to be throwing herself at another male and changing herself to suit what he wants.

Also she had her blip of talking about moving and now there's been nothing on it. Is that what it all was? Just talk?

No. 802788

>>802118

Who the fuck knows with her, she makes no sense 99.9% of the time. She's terribly wishy-washy

No. 803088

Heather's latest exploring video ft. Damian
https://youtu.be/zeAZ2kx-Gds

No. 803225

>>803088
Weren't we supposed to get a main channel video? Like all her explore shit is on Instagram already.

No. 803368

>>803225
I doubt we’ll get anything on her main channel. If we do, I bet it’ll be some haul video for whatever fast-fashion brand she’s obsessed with now or it’ll be a mail video like I’ve seen her mention lately. It won’t be anything with “thought” put into it.

No. 803947

>>803368
Yup. She said she filmed a haul video, and mentioned her new Killstar clothes. You nailed it.

No. 804929

>>803947
I haven’t watched her Killstar haul video and I doubt I will because didn’t she get all those clothes like over the past month? Aren’t haul videos aren’t suppose to show what you had just purchased? Seems more like a showing-off video if you’re doing a “haul” video of things you bought a month ago.

No. 808567

It just shows lack of content. Honestly she’s super boring now. Following whatever hobby her man follows and can’t do a single thing for herself.

No. 808819

Looks like she went to some paranormal day convention today and then proceeded to take photos in a cemetery. Like I wish if her man was going to take photos of her, can they at least go else where? I’m tired of seeing her in a cemetery almost looking like a cliché bubblegum goth girl being “super spooky.”

She also went on a talk on Instagram yesterday. Not much was saying just asides from the typical not knowing what to do with her main channel. She kept bringing up wanting to be creative and whatnot and how much she loves her urban exploring and photography. If she loves it so much, just turn it or bring it more into her main channel, especially since she mentioned that she was tired of always buying things and making haul videos out of them. If she loves her new hobbies so much, then she wouldn’t care about bringing them to her main channel and making it apart of her “true self”. Most YouTubers don’t have a second channel anymore unless one is for vlogs and the other is for their main content.

No. 809123

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Is she still a vegan anymore? I don’t drink coffee and know nothing about this brand but I’m not seeing on the label how it’s dairy-free like most vegan products do.

No. 809126

>>809123

Anon this is black coffee, how would it not be vegan?

No. 809411

>>809126
Like I said, I don’t know much about coffee. But i do know black coffee should be about zero calories so I’m curious to why this brand has 15 calories in it? I’ve just heard that even though coffee is considered black, Americans enjoy putting different flavourings and creamers in it. But i was also bringing up another thing too; is Heather still vegan? I felt like once in awhile she would bring up the fact she was vegan (and wasn’t she raw foods only too at one point or was that to win over her previous boyfriend?) and I haven’t heard her say anything about it and I felt like I’ve seen her with photos of Starbucks drinks with whipped cream on it, etc. That’s all.

No. 809459

She’s just following trends to get people to like her then drops them and complains. She has a pattern: finds new dude, changes self for new dude, cheats on dude, claims dude is abusive and is scared for her life, plays victim to turn everyone on dude, leaves dude for other dude and picks up his hobby, rinse repeat. Example: previous ex was into call of duty, all she did was call of duty games for her YouTube. Adam is a furry ( from what I’ve seen) and into anime hence JBD, new dude is into Urbex and boom shift to that. She’s changed her content and hobbies how many times? She’s needs to get off her fat lazy behind and fend for herself. I don’t think I’ve ever seen her without a dick in her arms.

No. 809473

>>809123
Jesus christ all you'd need to do is Google the brand of coffee to find out it's literally just black cold brew coffee. People try to nitpick the weirdest things.

No. 810778

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Just come back. Why do you need to ask your fans? It’s your channel. You can do whatever you want with it. It’s yours and no one else’s ffs.

No. 810780

>>810778
Also is she still making money from her YouTube? From what I understood is that Killstar isn’t cheap and I doubt her new man is “sugar daddy” material.

No. 810783

>>810778
She's said this exact thing a million times. She literally made a poll less than a week ago asking if people would prefer to see a toy review video or a DIY video for her "return to youtube," then like a day later she made another poll asking if people would rather see a review of a Shampoodle or her Penny Secrets doll. She's posted statuses on youtube and instagram lamenting her disappearance and announcing her triumphant return, and still all she's posted in a month is a haul video that no one asked for.

In one breath she'll say she misses creating content for her main channel and that she has all these fresh new ideas, and in the next she'll moan about how she doesn't feel like anyone wants her to come back and like she can't be herself on her channel. All the while, she hasn't made a single solitary attempt to actually film any toy-related content in weeks.

I'm pretty sure she knows full well that no one cares about her urbex/"spooky" content and that it won't make her any money, and that her main channel was about all she had in terms of an income source, but she obviously doesn't like the toys or kawaii stuff anymore. She's lying to her followers saying that she's going to be "coming back" and that she still loves the cutesy stuff (even the way she talks about the toy hobby as just "cutesy stuff" betrays her true emotions about it). It's intensely frustrating watching her leading her audience on when she's done fuck all to actually give them the content they want. If I were her audience, I'd be sick to death of her. Honestly if I were just watching her for her toy content, I would've left months ago. The vintage toy community needs to drop her like the BJD hobby did. Unfortunately the toy community is incredibly nice and forgiving, so all they're doing is encouraging her and telling her nice things about her new interests while not actually caring enough to follow her @heather_explores account or her urbex channel. They're coddling her hard and Heather's eating it up.

I'm the one who started this thread and I've been the one providing most of the milk. She's honestly so dull and irritating at this point that I'm not even amused by the trainwreck anymore. This thread is dead and her channel is dead. Now all Heather is is an unemployed woman with little to no personality of her own who's just looking for the next man to fund her lifestyle.

No. 810931

>>810783
Preach! She can’t do anything unless she has a man. She really needs to go on a self discovery journey and try not sucking every guy she sees dry of funds and emotionally drain. Learn what she truly wants, get a job, do things that will fulfill her no one else in her own. But unfortunately she is past the age of knowing when to turn her life around and all she knows is how to leech and play victim.

No. 810946

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She still lurking here? She decided to post this on all her accounts after the few posts made today

No. 810964

>>810946
I wouldn’t be surprised if she is. Or having her “ sparkle fam” doing it for her. She’s not that big and she’s not “attractive” (personality wise) to appeal to crowd she wants. Share your hobby but don’t expect to get paid for it.

No. 811277

Well, Heather is gonna is filming a video today about everything going on since about September/October and says she’s going to be “spilling the tea.” So when do you think we’ll be expecting this video posted? Tomorrow? Or will there be some delays?

No. 811278

>>811277
Where did she announce this? Also, my guess is she won't ever film it.

No. 811337

>>811278
Her IG stories. I think her Heather Sparkles account.

No. 811553


No. 811576

>>811553
An hour long video that could have been condensed into 30 minutes. Basically the same stuff she's been saying in her stories. Beginning: Fuck the haters, she doesn't care what people think how everyone HATES her new style and her new hobbies and the pressure of social media got to her and that's why she took a break. Middle: Long winded story about her falling in love with her ghosthunter mentor, he rejected her and she's still getting over it. She says the guy told her that he wishes her the best and whatnot, but she interprets that as him hating her guts? Last part of the video wrapping up and reiterating that she's "changed", is a strong, independent woman and wants to come back to YouTube. She doesn't elaborate on Adam or anything related to that situation, mentioned they're still proceeding with the divorce, but that's about it. Nothing really new, she really thinks a lot of people are out to get her and drag her for this video.

No. 811578

I've never posted to lolcow before so my apologies right from the start for any mistakes I make with board etiquette. I really have zero clue what I'm doing so please bear with me. I just thought I'd have some background to add.

Heather was my FB friend for a couple years. I believe she was into BJDs and lolita clothing at the time but we met through a mobile game. I thought she seemed cool at first but it became quickly apparent that something wasn't right with her. She would speak often about vague drama that seemed much bigger in her mind than the reality of her online presence and she also posted a lot of things that were pretty attention seeking. Histrionic, even. I will always remember one incident where she went on a rant about how anyone who works in the meat industry is a psychopath who gets off on torturing animals for fun. It was really unhinged (and I don't eat meat myself, so you know it had to be bad for me to still associate her with that post).

Then there were also all the health posts. She would complain constantly about illnesses and the vibe I got was definitely that she is a hypochondriac. She also gained a bit of weight during the course of our FB friendship and she was hyper focused on that and would talk down about herself all the time. Many times when we (other FB friends and me) would give her advice, I'd notice she would completely delete her post within a couple hours to a day.

It was the weirdest damn thing. It seemed like she wanted attention but as soon as she got it she'd freak out and delete everything. She would post CONSTANTLY to FB, sometimes it seemed like a steady stream of pics and shares for hours at a time. I've never seen anything like it. Mostly no one would comment. But then anytime people did reply to something she posted about her personal life… poof, it would be gone. So her FB was just basically a wall of meaningless third party shares.

TBH it was depressing AF to witness. I feel like a complete bitch to say this but I developed a strong dislike for her (even though I didn't know her personally) while at the same time I felt sad for her. And I think the pity I felt for her just made me dislike her more in a weird way. It gets to the point where you can't have much sympathy for someone who clearly ignores any help and seems to do nothing to properly treat her ailments (mental I'd guess, not physical).

Anywho… the reason I'm here is because her latest video popped up in my Youtube recommended and I clicked on it out of morbid curiosity. She either deleted me off of FB or deleted her whole FB account some time ago so I was surprised to see her face in my Youtube recommended. I made it about 10 minutes into the video before getting curious about her latest "drama" and then I googled "Heather Sparkles" only to find this lolcow thread right up near the top. Honestly, my only surprise is that she is well known enough to even be on here.

Gah. I really do feel bad writing this because I have a feeling she will read this and I don't wish her harm. It's just… she really needs help. I hope she can get some therapy, meds, whatever is needed, and be a happier, healthy person. All this fixation with being liked and seen through social media and Youtube is probably not healthy for her.

No. 811588

>>811578
Half the comments in this thread are from Adam and it's also suspected he wrote and writes a lot of the Anon "hate" she got on other platforms, because it isn't coming from here. I think he humored the "haters" narrative for years because it threw her off the trail. There really are no haters but I also don't think she imagined it either. She lived a very controlled life for years with only her husband - this is somewhat of a teenage rebellion for her.
As for the Facebook posting, she probably thought nobody could see it as nobody was interacting, but because you private messaged her/commented, it would still show up on your feed regularly. Then when people did interact she got embarrassed and deleted it.

No. 811640

>>811553
wow ramble on much? Jesus I was nodding off halfway through.

No. 811649

So it's a video to try to get a boy back.. to prove she's different now.. doesn't she have a new boyfriend?!

No. 811651

Poor Me. I suck. It's the fault of everyone else! "I will not have a boyfriend for a while" I gotta get ready for my date with Damian "Ok, well, fuck you all."

No. 811665

She does has haters she bullies a lot if people but then turns it around and plays the victim. She’s too obsessed with trying to live the “perfect” life. She’s abusive and controlling and so is Adam. But she plays the victim role so much no one seems to see it. This latest video was unnecessary and pointless. It made to feed her own ego and justify why she cheated. Get the damn divorce, people get divorced everyday yours isn’t special grow the fuck up.

No. 811692

>>810783
I don't know why the toy community still even support her, in her new video she refers to her old hobby as 'collecting junk'. How do they not find that insulting???

No. 811707

>>811649
I wonder what 'toxic' traits she exhibited for him to ghost her

No. 811755

>>811692
I'm a somewhat prominent figure in the toy community and I definitely find it insulting. Her blase attitude about collecting has really rubbed me the wrong way for a while, but the vintage toy community is far too nice to gossip, so I don't know if anyone else feels the same way. We're not really the types to blast or drag people.

No. 811765

>>811755
The reason I asked was because I am also in the vintage toy community, I feel the exact same as you so you're not alone. I imagine a lot of people feel the same but wont admit it in fear of community backlash since Heather was/ still is one of the most prominent members.

No. 811773

>>811755
yeah im in the toy community as well and im very frustrated w her. the way she talks abt the hobby is so rude and i wish shed just give up collecting if thats what she wants instead of stringing her fans along and going back and forth between 'im an all new heather im done with toys' to 'im coming back to my old channel!!!!' just make a choice jfc

No. 811827

She just wants the attention even if it’s negative. She feeds off of it. And if no one calls her out on it she will still gain off of it also. She’s making some money in order to waste it all on outfits she will probably only wear once.

No. 811874

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Heather says she's ditching her main instagram.

No. 811880

>>811578
All of that sounds very par for the course for Heather. If you read the rest of this thread, you'll see so much of this exact behavior: posting personal stuff and deleting it soon after, vaguely mentioning "drama" with nothing to back it up, unfriending people for giving advice, all of it. Your assessment that she seeks attention and freaks out once she gets it is dead on. I don't think anyone can blame you for not liking her after witnessing that behavior firsthand. She's insufferable to someone like me who just views her casually, I can't imagine how aggravating she is on her personal facebook.

She's really not all that well known, it's just that her meltdown was so public (she posted videos of her sobbing, ragging on her husband, and contemplating calling the cops on her snapchat stories that hundreds of people saw) that she was bound to get some negative attention. She sets herself up for the "hate."

No. 811891

>>811576
Still debating if I want to watch/listen to this.. but
> mentions hate on her new hobby
I haven’t personally been hating on it, it’s nice that’s shes leaving the house.. but I just hope she’s not falling for these new hobbies because her Damien or the other guy she was after.
> claims she’s a strong, independent woman
But she has no car, and I wouldn’t be surprised if she has Damien or someone else take her to go grocery shopping.

And also, I saw on one of her posts that she mentions a “dearest friend” or however she worded it. Are her and Damien done or is she just weirdly friendzoning him while they’re dating?

No. 811893

>>811891
No car, no job, no degree, no employable skills from what I can gather… like I don't want to be a dick, but in what way is she independent?

No. 811923

>>811891
I think she's confusing "hate" on her new exploring hobby with general lack of interest and her old viewers saying they're sad she's no longer making toy content. I genuinely haven't seen anyone telling her "oh my god Heather I HATE that you're going urbexing" or whatever. She's gotta come to terms with the fact that her audience is just generally not interested in her new hobbies and that the ones that are actually following her to her new accounts are either actually part of the small cross-over between vintage toy collecting and exploring (my bet is they probably like the antiques she finds) or they're just doing it to be nice/supportive.

I think a lot of kind-hearted people are being manipulated into following her new accounts by her "woe is me, everyone's out to get me and I've just had it so rough" shtick.

No. 811973

>>811773
It's frustrating how she kept dangling new toy content… any recommended girl toy vloggers? I have a hard time finding nonbored sounding people

No. 812026

>>811553
@19:56 she mentions that we're talking about what coffee she's drinking, citing this post >>809123 from a couple days ago that was the dumbest nitpick in a while because milk was dry. If this is what she thinks this thread is regularly criticizing her for (whether from her actually lurking here herself or being fed by someone), she's truly kidding herself. She boils down all the perfectly valid criticisms to "we get angry about her cats and what coffee she drinks." Not even close, Heather. Respond to the accusations of bullying, harassment, and manipulation if you really want to be talking about what gets said in this thread.

And to all the retards commenting on Heather's social media harassing her:
>4. Do not harass or brigade against any subjects posted. (cowtipping)

No. 812039

>>812026
Exactly, if she’s lurking touch basis on the accusations instead of thinking you’re a celebrity and that we follow your cats and your coffee drinking. Like seriously, big ego much? Did she even bother to read why that anon asked about the coffee? Sheesh.

No. 812043

>>811891
In the video she said she's not in a relationship right now and is going to wait until she's healed from the heartbreak. Maybe she's still going on dates/hooking up though, but I don't think she's capable of something casual or FWB type thing. If the Damien guy was her "mentor", it sounds like they aren't talking anymore.

No. 812057

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I don't think Damian is the guy she's talking about in the video. This comment was left under a picture she took with him earlier this month. Also, she still comments on his posts on Instagram, so he isn't the mentor she's speaking of.

Also, weren't her and Damian in love or some shit? He came in here and declared it, didn't he?

I doubt she has any real haters. Basically anyone who doesn't agree with everything she does is probably considered a hater in her mind.

She really acts like a child and not like an almost 30 year old.

No. 812083

>>812026
Still haven’t watched the video yet but if she’s lurking here then it’s clear that she’s reading these posts and picking and choosing what she wants to use to feel like she’s being attacked over. She won’t bring up any of the “real negative” things that are actually talked about her. She’s only gonna go on about us “complaining” about the coffee she drinks rather than the post was simply an anon asking a question kek

No. 812085

>>812057
Yeah, there was mention and I’m fairly certain comment proof of Damien and Heather sending tons of lovey—dovey emojis back and forth to each other in comments about the time Damien (or whoever it was) came into the thread and posted about them being together.. unless it was Adam? We’d never know unless Mods could tell us.

No. 812221

If you find her cringy and annoying and dislike her why the fuck stalk all her social media accounts just to talk complete shit! Makes no fucking sence…stop watching and following her!!!!!! Gtfo here alot of marriages go through cheating and drama at times…that does not make her a horrible person… Seems like adam didnt mind her not working or driving ect. Because is was his was of controlling her. Basically like you'll have nothing and end up on the street if you don't have me!!!! Turning her frineds against her was another form of control! Yes all these things are a form of emotional abuse! This is ridiculous! He obviously cheated too! Another thing a woman who has been controlled and lead to believe that she's nothing without a man for years and obvioulsy from her family which she is not close too….will make you a little unstable and seek validation elsewhere..hence the new guys shes seeking love from!!!!!!! Obvioulsy no one here on this thread can empathize with….not to mention she probably has low self esteem knowing she has no job or car again explaining her self hate and low esteem! She comes online to seek comfort from those who will not be quick to judge her! No one here has been walking hand in hand with her through her whole life to know what all she's been through! Adam was fine with her depending on him until she became unhappy with him and her own situation. Feeling trapped with no independence! Then the whole social media\ you tube world ganging up on her!!!!! Seriously fucking ridiculous… Get on with your lives and get out of hers! Im not heather or a personal friend BUT i am a mom of 3 who can relate to some of the things shes feeling! I used to feel the same way trapped unable to support myself and feeling alone and lost not knowing who to trust… People are so cruel on this threat is sickening and honestly sad….ive seen some support for her on here but mostly none… All lashing out at her when most of you dont personally know her. You only see a glimps of her life on social media… Which just now became full of drama on the account of her marriage failing! Adam did nothing but support her until she came out with the fact that she was no longer happy with him… I know this because i would constantly praise her videos on youtube saying liked her unique personality and loved her channel because she was herself and was always seemingly happy and he liked quite a few of my comments…if he didnt support her content he would not be go along with her life style. His view changed of her when he no longer hmaf control of her life and she wanted out! Look deeper into the situation! Read between the lines! To top it off he was emotionally cheating with a so called friend of hers! My guess is this so called friend wanted to get her claws into adam the whole time and took the first chance she got!!!!! No wonder shes going a little mental!!! Any woman would!(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 812224

This mentor guy isn't Ryan or Damian. Ryan was the one that manipulated Heather's friends into thinking she was bipolar and set off the November fiasco, and Damian was her newest boy toy that she has since recently dumped/been dumped by. Heather is no longer in a relationship with him (makes these posts >>796624 >>796640 age pretty poorly lmao).

These tweets >>762878 are about the mentor. There isn't any info about him in this thread (either Heather was smart for once and kept the relationship private or no anons managed to screencap anything before it was all scrubbed). All we have about this guy are the posts that Heather made about him that anons have saved before she deleted them. She mentions him and getting over the breakup in this >>763144 snapchat story from January 11th. She also made a video in late December/early January titled "I lost my best friend" or something like that and was vague about the person's gender, but talked about how they guided her and she drove them away (video has since been deleted obv). Anons are pretty positive that video was about mentor guy.

Heather's timeline of men in the past half a year:
1. Adam (gross husband who she's divorcing)
2. Ryan (manipulator, starter of November drama)
3. Tinder hookup (that Adam stalked/recorded having sex with Heather)
4. Mentor guy
5. Damian

Who knows how many Tinder hookups there were throughout all that. Either way, I'm glad she's finally come to the realization that she shouldn't be trying to be in a relationship until she figures herself out. That's a really mature step forward and one that she desperately needed to take. I am a bit worried that she sounded like she was leaving the door open for mentor guy though. If he all of a sudden decides he wants some tail, there's no doubt in my mind she'd fling herself on him once more.

No. 812245

>>812221
Did u really just type all that drivel to tell us how u feel? Neat!

No. 812262

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I'm amazed she hasn't taken down this negative comment yet.

No. 812263

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At least one person on instagram expressed that they were hurt by her depiction of the collecting hobby as just rampant consumerism.

No. 812265

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Looks like Heather decided to keep her old isntagram up at least, rather than deleting everything.

No. 812347

>>812221
Seriously you obviously haven’t don’t know her, you trying to white knight your way into her life?

Heather has been a manipulator. She was abusive in her relationship before Adam. She was a huge gamer and had a decent following even was friends was a gamer called ionlyusemyfeet who was popular and she participated in girls only gamer montages and channels. Then flipped did a 180 and did dolls and toys. She follows the money/ whatever her current guy is into. She drops it when bored or supposed haters come on or if she’s not making money.

No. 812425

>>811553
It still bugs me how she blames her own materialistic problem on her toy collecting and youtube. Her fans have always wanted to see her do digital art, custom toys, talk about the history of items she collects, or heck, even her daily vegan meals, but she could never get around to doing any of it. Everyone knows hauls get the most views, people love spending money on shit and getting that dopamine from their brain seeing things they can buy via youtube. But also plenty of channels do just fine not doing hauls every week.

She's already buying Killstar and antiques for her new aesthetic. Sure, she'll upload explore videos and spam instagram with pictures but she's still buying shit and enabling her spending addiction by now collecting antiques and black clothing. Whose to say she won't end up getting more views on her oddities hauls instead of her exploring? Then what? She can be a new person whenever it suits her but if she doesn't make actual change with her habits and thinking, she's going to keep going through phases like a teenager.

And I honestly doubt she'll stop reading this thread or being paranoid about a small fraction of people "hating" her. I'd love to see her be happy and not get obsessed over being hated but that requires growing up and being critical of yourself, which she isn't good at doing alone. Keep going to therapy, Heather, the world isn't going to sugar coat their opinions so learn to deal with it and deal with your own issues so you can stop crying over every other man you meet.

No. 812510

Wish we could find out who Mentor Guy was, seeing as he has a youtube himself.

No. 812515

New video just went up if anyone is following this.

No. 812517

"Cleaning up My Mess"

No. 812522

>>812517
@6:55 Heather says that the first thing that Adam does when he gets home is tell Heather what was written on lolcow that day. She says that she's never read the thread herself and that all of it has been filtered through Adam (or another close friend). So this is why she thinks everyone hates her. Of course. We all knew it but hadn't had it confirmed until now.

Adam, you're disgusting. Did you mention to Heather anything from the entire first half of this thread that was dedicated to how you've been arguably the biggest scumbag in this whole debacle? I bet not.

No. 812534

The thing is she had a job at hot topic and she had a best friend who went by Wookiee I think, what happened there? Plus she’s hiding behind Adam, why would Adam nitpick and tell her about the coffee post? I believe she looks at the thread.

No. 812541

>>812522
I'm sure she reads it herself, but Adam excitedly telling her what some anons on the internet (and him LARPing) have said about her this week (not daily, because nobody rly cares that much) is weird as fuck. You're weird as fuck Adam. Read this out to her, I dare you.
I genuinely believe he has written at least half of the negative or strange things said about/to her which would explain the vested interest he has in "retelling" his own stupid posts. Prove me wrong Adam…read this whole comment out. Don't miss a word. If you're innocent it shouldn't matter, right?

No. 812549

I have the full name and Facebook of the guy she dated before Adam. Js.

No. 812550

>>812517
>your own husband telling you all about your lolcow thread even if it makes you upset

Alright I was on the fence before because everything happening was so ambiguous, but now I really hate Adam. I completely (tinfoil-y?) believe that he made this thread and has been posting a lot of the weird shit in it. It's one thing for us to passively gossip, but it's another thing to be this gross.

>>812549
(hi [cow])

No. 812553

I’m not trying to be pro-Adam or anything, but I just had this kind of come to my mind.. but what if Adam stumbled across this and tried to tell Heather about it? Like more of a “hey people are saying this about you?” Because why would he go on about how someone “nitpicked” about coffee and then Heather just blew up everything out of proportion? Because Heather always seems like the type to blow everything out of proportion, especially if they are manipulative type; they will blow the smallest thing out of proportion if it wins them pity points.

Hopefully this all makes sense. Ignore me if it don’t.

No. 812554

>>812550
I’m just saying he might confirm her being abusive and manipulative. Might answer more questions you never know. Plus if Adam is feeding her these post or if she’s reading this she might lose her shit to being exposed.

No. 812556

>>812553
I think it’s both. I think Adam states some posts but she reads them. Remember that Instagram video defending Damian saying “ come at me” and “ to the hater stalker who’s been harassing me for 7 years” but? I don’t Adam would have let her know about that anons story. Which is looking more and more believable by the day.

No. 812566

Nitpicking but why didn't she just go to thrift stores to get a whole new wardrobe? She wouldve a lot of money that couldve gone to important needs like a car.

No. 812583

>>811973
Sallyheartsjack80

No. 812591

>>811874

Hi Heather, nice to see you here LOL

No. 812593

>>812591
>>811874
uhhhhh wow it's a real hi cow moment

No. 812594

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>>812262
>>811874
>>812263
these all have the same shot of her IG, are they all her or did she post a screenshot of her IG somewhere and farmers used it? omg pls be her lmao

No. 812597

>>812591
>>812593
>>812594
I literally don't know what you three are getting at, nothing in those screenshots indicates a self post. Please point out what you're seeing because I'm not getting it.

No. 812598

>>812597
"edit profile" her archive button in the left corner also

No. 812599

>>812597
the down arrow next to the screen name. that only appears from your own account when you have other instas to switch between

No. 812601

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>>812591
>>812593
>>812594
>>812597
>>812598
>>812599
Heather posted that screenshot to her instagram. This is what the screen looks like on desktop. Not a self post.

Don't be so quick to jump down her throat, jesus. She's not wrong when she says there are people that hate her.

No. 812853

>>812601
I don’t think it’s wrong that they jump down her throat, she’s proven over and over she lies and manipulated so it’s only natural to have skeptics.

No. 813163

Looks like Heather went on a solo ghost hunt yesterday. Looks like fun but it made/makes me really nervous to see any IG stories showing how she’s alone in an abandoned building. I feel like whether your man or woman, you really shouldn’t be doing something like that by yourself.

No. 813620

She's a store bought witch lol

No. 813656

>>813620
I’m personally not a fan of people calling themselves witches just because you’re wearing black clothes and wide brimmed hats. Of course, her closet is now all from Killstar so yeah, she kind of is a store bought Witch.

But shouldn’t those who practice Wicca be called witches? Or are they called wiccans?

(My English bad)

No. 813752

>>813656
Yea she’s a store bought everything. Honestly nothing about her is real. Says she’s an empath (insert eye roll) so now she’s a spooky witch/furry/kawaii goth/empath/unicorn/ cat/ god knows what else. Like I think she’s seriously bi polar or possibly split personality or maybe down right bat shit crazy. She can’t stick to one thing and she doesn’t known who she is. She needs a LONG road of self discovery and needs to stop slutting around with tinder dates/the first guy to tell her she’s pretty.

No. 813919

>>813656

Lots of people who do the neopagan thing are split on the witchcraft/wicca/wiccan/etc. I don't think Heather actually practices anything at all, she's entirely about the dressing up as a spoopy goth thing. If anything Adam's aggressive-crazy elite athiest schtick would keep Heather from trying to go the religious route with the pagan shit.

Iirc the three fold rule is usually what people try to abide by if they're practicing Wicca, which Heather definitely doesn't practice or follow. She seems like she's trying to get cool points with iron-on patches about "do no harm-but take no shit," so I'm with >>813620

Definitely just a store bought witch.

No. 814274

She just posted a video getting rid of all her colorful clothing.

No. 814275


No. 814384

>>814274
She has a weird vibe about her clothes, like she's forcing herself to not like cute stuff anymore? "I'm not supposed to feel like a magical girl anymore" and other stuff like she really doesnt want to stop?

No. 814470

>>814384
You can be a goth/witch and wear pink…. there’s a trend called pastel goth/ pastel Lolita’s……. it just shows Heathers lack of knowledge in the area.

No. 814474

>>813919
Not just that, I feel that any one in that practice wouldn’t stand on graves or lean on head stones smiling. I find that finding death beautiful, you also need to respect it.

No. 814483

This thread is chock full of newfags who keep bumping the thread with their sperging. Please read the rules and type "sage" into the email field when you aren't contributing any milk.
https://lolcow.farm/rules

Sorry to minimod, but the actual mods seem to have given up on this thread and this has been happening for months.

No. 814501

Yea she seemed distressed at getting rid of her pink stuff. Like she's forced only to wear black. It's really weird

No. 814518

>>814501
It’s like she’s resorting back to her old goth days when she had her lip piercing (can’t remember what year this was. I want to say late 2000s) but only difference is that she somehow has the money to spend for Killstar and she has pink hair. If she threw pastel goth into her wardrobe, it would look better and be a change of scenery. I feel like she’s wearing the same two dresses whenever she shows off her “Witch-y ness.”

No. 814564

Her saying that she needs to earn money to move out and her only viable means is YouTube is confusing because she just made a video about getting rid of stuff, like arent you broke? The video just seems like shes trying to convince us that she isnt kawaii anymore. Maybe she doesnt have any identity and just gravitated to whatever her current man was interested in.

No. 814571

>>814564
She no longer has a boyfriend and has proven that she was in fact interested in/dressed goth in years past. There are so many other things to criticize her for, I have no idea why people care so much about her fashion choices.

No. 814610

>>814571
Killstar isn’t cheap. She could have bought stuff second-hand, especially if she’s wanting money to buy a car and get her own place, etc.

Though I’ve seen her recently mention a “roommate”, so is that Adam? Is she content just living with Adam being “single?”

No. 814637

>>814610
She said in her woe is me vid that she calls Adam her room mate now.

No. 814674

She is an intolerable person in person and this whole “feud “ just is starting to show it. Why can’t she keep friends in real life? Why does she play victim so much? Remember her living in Cali? Her mom bought her a ticket and Adam one to come back home. She lived with her mom with Adam for some period and then what? Her mom threatened to kill her magically just like her sister did before begging her bf at the time to move her to Cali? Or did her mom kick her out? Like her mom is an obvious person of support, so why not reach out to her mom? Say she made a mistake ask for help? Because she is a leech. She doesn’t pay rent, she doesn’t have bills she refuses to work but blames Adam. Adam is a down right pervert who is just as controlling as Heather, but she cheated. She cheated on all her boyfriends. Adam isn’t worthy to be called a husband because of how he is, but you put two abusive controlling people in one room and it’s a fight of who’s on top. Look at her actions, all to get back at Adam. It’s just like fucking high school. Heather needs to move back in with her mom, put her stupid “witch” phase on hold or make it a side thing, work or go to school and stop relying on someone with a dick to provide for her. Grow a fucking pair, put on your big girl panties and do what everyone else in the damn world is doing, working and putting time into their hobbies while having financial support from a damn job.

No. 814682

She just made a live stream saying she's in debt because of killstar and she confirmed her ex she is obessed with is Ryan Zacherl.

No. 814689

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>>814682
Found him

No. 814690

>>814689
So she’s obsessed with a man who looks like a pedo? Makes sense…. she normally is into guys who look like that screams daddy issues tho

No. 814701

He ghosted her and even when he sees her he acts like he doesnt know her. She considers him her mentor. Really messed up on his part he praised her and had sex with her the night before he dumped her. She said the new her would make him happy. She said the problem was that she was needy.she is shunned by urban paranomal explorers that are affiliated with him.

No. 814706

Ryan Zacherl is the mentor dude. She considers him her soulmate and she feels no one else will compare to him. She blames herself for the breakup but also states that he was dismissive of her feelings.

No. 814707

>>814701
Sounds like she’s having a hard time accepting the fact that a man doesn’t want to be with her. Has she always been able to “win” men over so easily in the past? Judging by the posts, I would say yes and Zach’a rejection is so unknown to someone like Heather.

And that fact she’s in debt because of Killstar? Oh god. Think before you buy! If you want Killstar so badly, buy second-hand on that app she uses to sell her clothes on ffs. There’s ways of getting those expensive af fast fashion clothes for cheap; it’s either buying it second hand or not buying it at all. Is that why she’s trying to sell all her pastel clothes? To pay off her debt?

No. 814708

>>814707
I meant Ryan. I don’t know why I put Zach.

No. 814710

>>814707
Yup that's why she's trying to sell everything.

No. 814735

>>814682
I knew spending all that money on killstar was gonna bite her in the ass. She should have saved it for a car or a new apartment. If she wants to achieve those goals she needs to start thinking like an adult.

No. 814980

>>814735
But being a cute witch > saving up for an apartment.

Maybe she was betting on Ryan would fall for her again so she’d have a “sugar daddy” (doubt he makes that much to be true sugar daddy material) so he could have her move in with him.

Maybe she should just stay comfortable living with roomie Adam and start from square one, learning how to be an adult or if living with Adam is “soooo unbearable” (haven’t heard if it is, hence quotation) then move back in with mommy to learn to become an adult. Or maybe that’s why she hasn’t moved back in with her mother again? Because her mother will make her get a job and actually become an adult.

No. 815034

>>814682
where was the live stream?? I notice her main IG is actually gone too

No. 815042

>>815034
It was on her @heather_explores account. You're right, her main insta was deactivated.

No. 815289

She’s showing off her current Killstar haul on her Heather Explores Instagram stories. Like holy crap, no wonder she’s in debt.

No. 815314

>>815289
People need to stop giving her positive comments on her kickstart. If she’s in debt and continuing to purchase recklessly her viewers are basically telling her it’s ok by telling her how cool or cute it is. She doesn’t know how to spend or budget and she’s how old? I get living paycheck to paycheck but people who do don’t splurge on these kinds of things they save up. But she’s just one giant reckless child and her fans are feeding her.

No. 815322

It’s a good thing she didn’t have a kid with Adam it get knocked up because she’s out her needs over her child. Heck not even her needs, her wants. She just is too lazy to work stuck on this dream her YouTube will pay for her life. Ugh get off of YouTube already you ain’t no PewDiePie.

No. 815342

Why is Adam exploring too? Was he trying to win her over?

No. 815359

This entire thread is miserable & pathetic, HOLY SHIT. Who in the world has all this time to stalk some random woman from YouTube and talk endless shit about her on some mediocre forum? Sounds like it's time for certain people to get a hobby that doesn't include the internet.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 815371

>>815359
Hi Heather!

No. 815373

>>815359
man I never realised looking at someones PUBLIC social media presence is stalking.

No. 815808

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I thought she wasn't focusing on finding a boyfriend?

No. 815823

>>815808
She doesn’t. She only wants Ryan. It’s clear she wants to stay all dark and spooky for him. You can tell she wants to keep her whole pastel cute-vibe going, but is trying to push it back to show Ryan that she isn’t a “child” (or whatever he’d think and label a woman who wears pastels).

No. 815885

>>815823
She just is a faint child. The way she dresses doesn’t show that she’s a child, her actions show she is. No man wants an almost 30 year old who doesn’t want to go to college, get a job and doesn’t know how drive and relays on the man to buy her everything. You have to be pretty, blonde and big breasted for any sugar rich daddy to want to take in such a woman child. Btw pastel goth kicks her style in the butt. They’re cutesy and fierce and incorporates death in the style. Don’t be the sad pathetic human you’re turning out to be, stand on ur own two feet and become successful and rub it in Ryan an Damian’s AND Adams face stop being CREEPER PSYCHO and LABELING IT “ IM GOTH/WITCHY AND LIVE DEATH “
P.s. she’s faking being obsessed with death and being a witch who dose she think she’s fooling?

No. 815889

She really is not dealing well with being single. She keeps mentioning Ryan and wanting a bf in her live tonight. She was drinking beer, laughing and crying. I hope she can find happiness from within herself.

No. 815893

>>815889
Pfft I hope she goes to therapy and gets on some meds for her stalking self.

No. 815930

>>815808
Okay, I'll admit I've had some faith in Heather recently about her clothing choices. I didn't find her change in aesthetic to be anything to be mad about, and I saw it as her just reverting back to her old goth roots with a little bit of a stylish witch glam twist to be more modern. But it turns out she's just dressing this way for men? Heather, I've been rooting for you! I thought you changed for YOU! Please please please stop doing everything in a desperate attempt to get attention from men! When you say that you're trying to be independent and you don't need a significant other, were you just lying? Are you lying to your audience or yourself? I really genuinely hope she lurks because maybe she'll finally get why she's getting so much criticism on the internet. Everything you say and do contradicts itself. Please introspect, please. It's truly maddening to watch her sabotage herself.

No. 816013

>>815889
She was a bit of a mess during her live stream. The constant reminder that she was drunk got very annoying and felt like her “drunk ness” was fake. Her livestream would have been interesting to watch if she just sat there and chatted; not drank and complained and cried.

I also found it uncomfortable when she laughed at a person when they mentioned they were molested by a spirited. She laughed at them for a minute straight and then when on to say the “company she works for” and the stuff she does for them etc, she has came across people in that same situation.

She also mentioned that she’s 120lbs… but idk, to me she’s looking a little more than that lately. Might be all the beer?

No. 816046

If she loves death so much like she states she should work in a mortuary. And she dose not weigh 120. She looks more around 140 and putting on more. Which is fine but don’t brag about your weight when you’re guzzling beer. And laughing at that person was terrible. Someone should have called her out. It just shows her true nature, if it doesn’t involve her she doesn’t give a shit.

No. 816067

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She needs this in her life because a lot of you are normalizing her behavior. She’s an abusive person and stalking the guy she got rejected by is wrong. I hope he files a restraining order.

No. 816071

Ryan’s content is way more interesting than Heathers… and the photos are way better they don’t have that stupid filter. Plus her videos are so cringeworthy because she always looks “ fake” listening or walking all slow like she’s the main focus. I feel bad that Ryan into such a psychological damaged child that she has to stalk him now.
But wtf happened to Damian? They were all butt hugging each other defending each other declaring their love then he vanished? Did he realize the trap and left? Did Adam chase him off? Also Adam should leave and get his own place. Force her to get a real job to keep her place rather then coddling her. But he’s psycho too so he’s probably enjoying “I told you so” everyday. They’re both abusive and toxic and need to be away from people.

No. 816072

>>816071
Pretty sure heather and Adam live in an apartment so no manager will want Heather as a tenant with no proper source of income unlike Adam who seems to have an actual stable job.

No. 816078

She said her and Damey broke it off mutually. In the live before this one she said he's a douche. The men in her life are culpable. They use her because she is damaged and insecure.

No. 816101

>>816071
Ryan’s stuff comes off so professional, in my opinion. To where it could be on TV but there’s something about it to where it’s not on TV. Heather’s stuff on the other hand seems like it’s trying too hard to look professional when it comes off looking very amateurish. And I’ve stated before, I don’t like the fact that she’s going ghost hunting or exploring or whatever by herself, it’s extremely dangerous and if you’re trying to set a good example; don’t do that shit alone. There’s reasons why ghost hunting tv shows and people on YouTube are in groups, because there’s safety in numbers for a handful of reasons.

And yeah her edits and just… not necessary. Especially on her IG stories and those filtered she uses on her photos she’s takes, I just want to enjoy a photo not it have it been ruined by an ugly filter that makes it look edgy and music that ruins it imo.

No. 816130

I think she’s obsessed with him because she wants a free ride. She also might be obsessed because she thinks she’s all that and no man turns her down because she hot shit.

No. 816139

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She’s wearing cat ears in these clips I feel like she keeps sharing. It makes me wonder if she wears them nearly all the time, if she does.. maybe that’s why Ryan doesn’t want to be with her? Taking personality out of the equation.

No. 816149

>>816139
She used to force Adam to wear furry costumes, not everyone is a furry so that’s probably why Ryan was like “Nope”

No. 816152

>>816139
This is such a weird tinfoil and it sounds like Heather asking for clothing advice to impress men, especially after she made it sort of clear that its her goal. But to answer your question yeah only gross weeb boys would find cat ears alluring and her old pastel wardrobe is also weird to guys, they dont like clothing that they cant understand. Dressing to impress them would be really boring.

No. 816222

She won’t stop bringing up wanting a boyfriend. It’s getting to the point where it’s sounding so desperate. Normally I’d hear small children or pre-teens complain this much about wanting a boyfriend but a 30 year old woman? Does she really think this will get Ryan’s attention?

No. 816224

The next Trisha Paytas

No. 816225

If people would stop following her and move to someone else she won’t have anyone feeding her attention. She wants attention even if it’s negative. She can’t do anything without a dick in her life so why not move on to someone better? Heck go like Ryan. Then she will be forced to go back to toy hauls or off YouTube so she can focus on getting a job. But then again she might not and it’s funny seeing her show the Internet her true colors. Karmas a bitch.

No. 816227

Here's the thing, any attention is better then no attention. It's like wrestling, any reaction from the crowd is better then no reaction.

No. 816230

She's live now talking about tinder and how the guys on there suck. She is also talking about how she wants to date youtubers.

No. 816238

>>816230
She only wants to date YouTubers so she could get a free ride because she has no TALENT. Even her personality is bland. Like ugh she’s irritating

No. 816256

She should just go back to cam shows. Probably would make more than YouTube and there’s dudes out there who’d pay to see her. She has options she’s just laaazzzyyy and wants to be spoon fed. That’s why I suggest cam shows. Did it before for free just was trying to convince dudes to move her in and etc. so why not now and get paid? Or better yet get off your lazy fat ass and get a job. ( not saying she’s fat just using it as a sane)

No. 816276

>>816230
She only wants to date a youtuber so they’ll let her move into their house within a few weeks of dating, pay for all her shit, and they’ll be more lenient on her doing her online shit aka flirting with random guys online and over sharing tmi posts.

No. 816298

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I like how she says she's an independent woman who doesn't need a man but then proceeds to whine about needing a boyfriend… Get your act together heather.

No. 816355


No. 816392

>>816355
"paranormal work"…wonder what that means.

No. 816413

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Saw this is a longwinded comment on that video. I remember there being talk of a GoFundMe a while ago, but I do not think that will happen. Heather has proven how she is irresponsible with money, i.e. her Killstar hauls when she has no real income.

Her fans are the exact reason why she'll never grow up. There are only two comments on the video right now, but they're both giving her far too much credit. Her fans are the worst. They're making her think it's ok to act the way that she acts. It's obvious that she doesn't have any real friends left outside of the online "Sparkle Fam" because a real friend would tell her to get her shit together. But we've seen what she did to her friends that tried to help her in the past.

Also, how many videos like this is she going to make? It's the same old drivel. She's extremely boring and fake. Please find a real job, Heather. YouTube is not your calling.

No. 816418

>>816413
Lol Heather needs to read this thread. I wish I could get people to mindlessly throw money at me just by showing a bit of cleveage and crying about how abused I am. Don’t give her money she will waste it to try and get Ryan back or waste it on Killstar. If she’s so determined to do this photography thing, go take classes so your shit don’t look like a a toddler got a hold of a camera. High schoolers do better photography and classes at a community college are cheap. But then she might just quit like she did on GED ten million times before she got it. She is a legit waste and she can’t do shit unless people do it for her.

No. 816426

>>816418
She will waste it on Ryan, because on her 'drunk' live, she said she was going to spend about $140 on a tour where he frequents. I believe she said on Monday was the tour. So there goes $140.

No. 816431

>>816426
She really should get a restraining order against her by him she’s legit stalking him.

No. 816437

>>816431
I meant he should get a restraining order for her lol.

No. 816562

Ugh people keep encouraging her to do solo exploration. And she posted a video of her walking they trees and etc saying how she is using exploration to get over the greatest heartbreak she had. You cheated on your husband, got ghosted because you’re psycho and is stalking him. And her fans are clapping and telling her “you go gurl “ ,……. like how brainwashed are they?

No. 816570

i don't understand why she keeps making videos explaining her changes and personal life and whatever, saying the same thing, instead of just doing it. if she's going to keep doing the my little pony stuff and the polly pocket stuff then WHY bother trying to revamp her channel, just keep it all toys and don't update unless you feel like it. no need to talk about how witchy you are or explain why you're not wearing pink today, keep that on your explore channel.

No. 816573

Can all of you please remember to put sage in the email box.

Unless you have something interesting to contribute which is not opinion or tinfoil, sage your post to prevent it bumping the thread

No. 816937

You know there’s a prostitute in GTA named Heather Sparkles LMFAO

No. 817191

Why does she have only 3 comments on her newest video? Did she delete all of them?

No. 817197

I think the fans are tired of these excuse/explanation videos.

No. 817270

>>816298
Can't be an independent woman who doesn't need a man if you don't have an actual job, no education higher than a GED, zero personality, a "style" that changes with every new person of the opposite sex that you even look at, no driving skills, and you still live with your ex-husband because you can't financially live on your own. What a cruel world!

>>817191
I agree with >>817197. All of her videos are just rehashing the same thing about changes, how she's growing as a Youtuber, the new content she wants to bring to the channel, etc. Hopefully her fans are starting to see through the bullshit and be done with her. There are plenty of other, much better Youtube personalities out there to devote your time to.

No. 817282

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>>817197
Yeah, in the past week she's put out three long-winded meta rambles about her channel rather than actually posting content. She even mentioned in her most recent video that she should probably be actually filming these new videos she wants to make rather than just talking about doing it, but "she likes to keep her audience informed about what going on on the channel." Heather, no one cares this much. You do obviously, because it's your channel, but your subscribers don't need three videos in a week about how you've changed and will be making new content. They get it. Christ.

No. 817569

>>817282
Gotta get that watch time up though for that YouTube cash so she can buy more Killstar, anon. That’s why the long videos. Lol

No. 817605

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Who took the pic, Adam? Like tf why? She supposedly can't stand him but she gets pics of her from him to share?? I'm really confused.

No. 817667

>>817605
She used to take pics of people asleep and post them. She probably can stand Adam it’s probably all a scam, but why does she not have pink hair?

No. 817668

>>817605
Nvm I see it now lol

No. 817711

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She has another Instagram and stalks Ryan in it

No. 817723

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Honestly found this funny. How she jumped to defend herself after being called out about her narcissism.

No. 817724

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She’s from the “influencer realm” apparently.

No. 817725

>>817711

Wow, I wonder why Ryan didn’t comment telling her to get off his page

No. 817729

>>817723
Lol influencer realm, lol stating people watch her lol. 9k isn’t even a fucking sent xD that’s like not even a whole town population LMFAO She just basically showed how much she’s self absorbed she thinking she influences people xD(xD)

No. 817730

>>817725
I think based on his output he probably switched or made another account. He needs to file a restraining order then she will lose her damn shit and have another meltdown. I don’t think her viewers can handle another melt down.

No. 817764

>>817729
It won’t let me delete and my phone autocorrected it to that on accident instead of putting 9k

No. 817783

>>817711
But yet, Ryan liked her comment. Is that all an act too? If he ghosted her, why like her comment? He should of blocked her. This is getting confusing as hell.

No. 817785

>>817783
Legit think it’s all an act. Her personality isn’t tho. So self absorbed. So butt hurt over simple things. Bet that beer is apple juice.

No. 817794

She said she was going to an excursion where Ryan would be at, to talk to hi.. He had told her they could never be friends but that she would be getting closure this week. I wonder when she's going to talk about it

No. 817795

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He just posted this four hours ago and she liked it. I dont get it like the dude used you and hung you out to dry. Forget about him.

No. 817799

>>817783
Maybe he liked her comment as kind of a “I’ll acknowledge the comment but not reply back” situation? I tend to do that sometimes if I don’t know how to reply.

But yeah, it’s clear Heather doesn’t know how to accept rejection especially since Ryan left her hard (best way to put it atm, I’m tired lol). Also maybe he’s not into girls with dyed hair and girls with heather’s personality? He looks like the type of person that would want a normal looking girl lol.

Also wasn’t it suppose to be tonight (Monday) that’s heather was doing that thing where Ryan would be involved? I’m curious to how that went.. if she went at all.

No. 817850

>>817799
I'm new to this cow but this behavior is creepy and desperate. She needs to leave Ryan alone. Ffs even her crazy eyes in the OP pic alone give off creeper vibes

No. 818006

Ryan seems like a fuck boy. Majority of people he follows on IG are women and thots. Heather needs to give up.

No. 818050

a bit off topic but why does that one reply have " xD " in red text on it?

No. 818054

>>818050
That's a mod comment. Most likely that anon was given a temp ban for not integrating into board culture. Don't use emoticons on lolcow.

No. 818092

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Is this her way of trying to get Ryan’s attention or just any man’s attention at this point?

Or is there another reason for this photo? Why would you post this on your explores Instagram?!?! What are you exploring?

No. 818095

>>818092
I'm calling it, we're in the beginning stages of another meltdown. It's rapidly approaching. She's starting to overpost with irrelevant and highly personal garbage on her new account, and soon she'll have another public full-blown breakdown, this time over not getting the male attention she craves.

No. 818137

>>818092
She has money to dye her hair. I was a stylist and bleaching and dying ur hair like costs up to 100 bucks. But could be a home job, based off how frizzy and damaged it is it’s most likely a home job. That outfit is fine for going out clubbing but Heather is a HERMIT and refuses to have human interaction unless it benefits her and her channel. No one should go exploring in her outfits, not a single outfit provides protection from debris or bugs. Not to mention wouldn’t you pull your hair back when you go to an abandoned area? I have long hair and that shit gets hooked on everything so why run the risk of getting lice, bed bugs or any other kind of creepy crawlers in that kind of place in you hair? I read something about her dye choice too for her hair, guys I can’t stress DONT DO UR OWN HAIR. There’s professionals for a reason, would you do your own tattoo? The cheaper the cost the nastier it looks.

Now why spend 200 plus on Killstar when DollsKill are cheaper and have more variety? And then why just dress up like that in your home and not go anywhere? Is because we questioned her weight? I hope she has another melt down, honestly that’s all she’s good for.

No. 818139

>>818092
Her body also looks disproportionate, like she’s trying up make it look like she’s thinner or something. Plus I’m sorry if you’re into all that witchy stuff and goth stuff wouldn’t you have tattoos too? Most chicks I know into that stuff has ink to rock.

No. 818159

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I saw that ryan is following like 2 of this chick’s accounts. Is this the look Heather’s going for? This chick has before and after pics of her plastic surgery and many cringey “edgy” pics mostly involving her ass and some satanic symbol on her tits.

No. 818162

She spoke about gaining back some of the weight she lost and feeling bad on her recent live. Honestly speaking she is a beautiful girl. Her self esteem is trash because she relies on other people for self worth.

No. 818192

>>818162
She shouldn’t worry about weight. She’s too materialistic and self absorbed, she’d be pretty if she stopped and get help to better herself rather then rely on a man and other people.

She should also just go back to sending nudes and camming because when she did she had guys left and right and a lot of them willing to get her shit.

No. 818231

I think she’s trying to be like the girl’s Ryan likes.

No. 818232

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I forgot to add the photo. My bad.


But what’s this? Looks like she’s going for the white streaks in her hair? And calling herself kitten? Oh no….

No. 818235

>>818232
I also realised she’s calling it a collar now, not a choker.. it’s alway always looked like a pet collar to me anyways.

I’m guessing collar and chokers are kind of the same or is there difference?

No. 818237

>>818232
She has money to do her hair but she’s supposedly in debt? And she’s a known furry, but I think calling yourself cat and wearing a collar is a mental illness she needs help

No. 818255

>>818235
there's no functional difference but calling it a "collar" definitely gives off pet play vibes, and the style is very BDSM with the O-ring attached to the front. On top of calling herself kitten… things ain't lookin so good. Hopefully she's not trying to use kink to cope with all the fuckery cause it's not gonna end well.

No. 818262

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I was reading the new comments of her hair, which I like but idk how I feel about it on her. And I noticed a comment from a dude and she replied back with a bunch of heart emojis. Curious, I checked out the guys page; has neat exploring photos — the “norm”. But on his newer photo.. I noticed this conversation..

Took two screen caps, second cap will be in it’s own post.

1/2

No. 818264

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2/2

No. 818335

That's really sad. Heather doesn't even know who she is, but she's constantly looking for validation from people on the internet and random guys. I guess this is what happens when you push away all of your real life friends.

No. 818337

>>818137
She gets her hair done at a salon, which is good because you're right, at home dye jobs are horrible, but you're also right in that it's expensive to get it bleached and dyed professionally. She only had to have her roots done (she posted pics of her in the salon yesterday mentioning getting her roots done) but that's still not cheap.

No. 818388

Those comments with that guy are so cringe worthy. He is rejecting her advances and it’s just kinda painful to watch. She is going to hit rock bottom.

No. 818467

>>818388
Both sides of the conversation are cringe. It almost seems like she’ll go for any exploration dude, no matter how they look (imo this dude looks plainer than Adam and not comparatively “attractive” to Ryan or Damien).

No. 818479

>>818388
I feel like she's already hit rock bottom but she hasn't realized it yet. It's been stated plenty of times already, but she literally has nothing. What little money she has goes towards new clothes to try and impress men who don't want her. No friends outside of the internet, no home to live in without Adam, no life skills to speak of.

Her current focus should be getting her life together and not buying a new wardrobe for her aesthetic. These new clothes are just giving her temporary happiness.

The total meltdown is coming as soon as all of this registers in her brain, I'm sure of it.

No. 818526

New killstar haul.

No. 818605

>>818526
How is she getting money for these things after already breaking down about being in debt? Is she seriously scamming her “sparkle fam” out of their money? God get some morals girl

No. 818702

>>818605
Maybe she decided to get herself more into debt? Or maybe she’s getting money from Adam? Who knows. She’s wasting her money on overly expensive clothes instead of finding ways to look like a store-bought “goth” in a budget.

I’m curious to how long it’ll be until she does another haul video of some sort or shows off she bought something on her “explores” Instagram.

No. 818916

>>818526
Her makeup makes her eyes look like a pug.

No. 818935

>>818526
Without music or something in the background, her video seems dead and lifeless. Like she just quickly filmed and threw this out; did minimal editing too.

Has her videos always been this “bad”? Or is it a very recent thing?

No. 818942

And it looks like Heather is showing off more shit she bought from Killstar, one of the things is a bloody shower curtain.

You guys, she’s in so much debt.

No. 819030

>>818942
That shower curtain is just a waste of her money. Like clothes maybe could be justified but buying a whole new shower curtain to match her aesthetic?? It seems like she's getting knew killtar stuff every week.

No. 819035

>>818942
It's obvious that this is all for show. A fucking shower curtain? All this money could be used towards getting her own (cheap) apartment. Living with Adam must not be so bad, huh?

No. 819093

>>818942
U can get that shower curtain off of spirit Halloween for like 15 bucks. Going too far with the store bought goth. Plus how the hell did she pick Killstar over dollskill? I think she snooped around on the girls pages that Ryan likes and went to it. Like even if you type in “ goth outfits” dollskill shows up not Killstar. You legit have to know Killstar exists u can’t just stumble upon it.

No. 819155

>>819093
Dollskill has shitty quality and known to steal designs. I'm sure Killstar isn't that much better but at least they're not making edgy punk bras and cheapos of every new ig trend. She should just go to the thrift stores or literally any other goth brand that isnt trendy but gotta follow that insta goth look.

No. 819192

Honestly, she's a fake witch. Most witches I've seen don't run around in all black clothing and spend hundreds of dollars on KillStar. A lot of them are in tune with nature, casting spells and etc. She has yet to say anything about casting spells and all she says is she "loves death". No. That's like you googled witch or just grew up with that in your head and said HEY LET ME BE THIS BECAUSE IT GETS ME ATTENTION!

She's self asbored, not a witch quality. She's materialistic, not a witch quality. She's obsessive over men and her looks, not a witch quality. She wears black and big rimmed hats, store bought witch quality.

Don't buy the clothing and slap it with the title witch because the shop says so. Being a witch isn't what she's doing. She's giving it a bad name. Being goth isn't what she's doing either.

With that said, if you like the style of clothing fucking buy it and wear it but don't label yourself a witch because you're wearing clothing that's supposedly styled after it.

I took psychology classes, her identifying as a furry the way she is, not healthy. She reads obsessive, split personality, insecure and manic. She also comes off as 51/50 in a lot of her videos, switching with ease from different personalities which is dangerous for herself and the people around her. I honestly wouldn't be surprised if she's threatened Adam with self harm if he didn't purchase her items or materialistic things. And based off her photos, the posing makes her look crazy to me. Her eyes are overly open/ enlarged, her smile comes off as fake and her whole output comes off as shady. Wouldn't surprise me if she was raised in a loving home but due to being handed everything she wanted she went off the deep end when she was told to support herself.

No. 819212

>>819192
>she's a fake witch
Are you implying there are real witches?

No. 819216

>>819212
There are practices yes. I believe anything can exist unless proven other wise. I believe people can be empaths, have a certain connection to the world, can see spirits or drawn upon spirits. I myself have had paranormal encounters and I myself believe witches exist, but that’s just it, you can have an aspect of a witch but what makes you one is following the practice, just like any other religious practice.

No. 819217

>>819212
And with that you can slap on a witch hat and say you’re a witch, but it takes years of dedication, research and understanding. It’s not a clothing style or label, it’s a life choice you follow that takes a lot of hard work. That’s why I’m saying she’s fake. She’s buying materialistic things and flaunting it to make money.

With that said, yes witches exist but Heather is not one. It takes years. She’s just trying to buy her way in.

And as I stated I took classes, I didn’t major in it. Being a furry is fine, I think there’s underlying mental issues with it tho. Being a witch is real, because it involves loving nature, animals and night. Only reason I believe they exist is because we haven’t untapped all our brain activity yet. But that’s not what this post is about. It’s about a very mentally ill girl who needs help but refuses to acknowledge it and step up.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 819219

>>819217
You need your own thread lol

No. 819238

>>819217
You sound worse than Heather tbh

No. 819358

I understand you all are mad at Heather and all, but she is just a person everyone makes mistakes. Heather is going though a hard time, she lost the love of her life and so much more! I am not saying all that Heather has done is alright but we arw not we don't truly know the situation. God(Jesus Christ) put us all on the earth to encourage one another not bring one another down. Remember this!❤(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 819389

>>819358
"Lost the love of her life"? Which one? Ryan? Adam? Damian? The Ryan that started all the shit last fall? You've gotta be kidding me lmao

Heather is a wreck. She isn't just going through a tough time.

No. 819439

The point I was trying to make with that was she doesn't have anyone to lean on. Everybody has to have something or someone to lean on. Obviously we can't all Heather is really upset about something(s). And I have to say I know some of her videos about her struggles have helped someone even if it doesn't seem like it. All I'm trying to say is since we're not her we don't know what really went on. All we can do is hope everything will work out for her.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 819450

The messed up thing is sure she can have difficulties in life but she's a youtuber and many of us signed on for her specific vintage toy, kawaii content. She wants to switch it and act like we are wrong for unfollowing or being annoyed about the change. She talks about her past interest and appearance with such disdain it's a slap in the face to fans that actually live that life. And it's annoying that she talks about wanting a man, being broke, etc etc when we didnt sign up for any of that. She built her channel on something specific to then suddenly change it up and is begging her followers to join her new stupid channel. That's just fucked up

No. 819454

Also, if you read through this thread, you'll see that a lot of us have expressed feeling bad for her at points, but she managed to push away people who were trying to help her. She's proven that if you disagree with her, then you're disposable. That's why she runs to her "Sparkle Fam" with all of her crying and her issues, because those people are behind her 100% even though she's sabotaging her own life. She can't handle criticism and you're not her real friend if you think she's doing anything wrong.

No. 819526

i'll say this, at least there are no nude photos of her floating around lol I seriously see her benefiting from all this, this is exactly like a trisha paytas move, all this drama and clothing hauls.

No. 819545

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This is the kind of stuff she has on her etsy page. Interesting that she used to be into toys and also into this stuff at the same time.

No. 819547

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How does she afford Killstar with her monthly youtube earnings? She’s also only lost ~100 subs this month.

No. 819656

>>819547
My guess is she had a bit of money saved up from when she used to work and has slowly been depleting it over these last few months where she's been insisting that she's paying for everything with her own money. I'll take her at face value when she says she's paying for her own stuff, but that just means she's constantly spending from her nest egg without earning anything to replace it. Not a smart move for someone who's looking to move out on their own. Also doesn't come across as the most sound financial decision, which is probably helping to ward off all these men she's thirstily throwing herself at.

No. 819792

>>819656
Another possibility is that she is borrowing money from people in her life or the bank in the form of loans/ credit cards. I don't believe she can truly afford to spend as much as she does either.

No. 819985

Ugh she never changes. Back in 2012 (found some old messages on my friends Facebook) of Heather twisting everything around and telling people her “hater” was going to kill her. If you go thru her old FB she keeps saying how her dream is to collect toys. She was strictly a gamer page, bought her doll Freya who Heather now kind of looks like then moved with Adam back home, had a good relationship with her mom even had her in videos then just up and reverted back boy chasing. She deleted all her stuff talking smack and attacking certain people and even back then she constantly deleted her Twitter and made new channels. She was even asking her fans to help pay for shit too.

No. 820050

Is The Birthday Massacre the only goth band she knows? She's constantly using their songs in here IG stories.

No. 820272

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Looks like shes exploring with Damien again??

No. 820495

>>820272
Maybe she’s gonna try and get together with him because she still can’t get Ryan and she’s desperate af

No. 820619

>>820495
I think shes talking about him now in her stories on IG

No. 820628

>>820619
I find it weird and slightly creepy how she’s referring to him as a boy. Isn’t he nearly 30 also? That’s a man, not a boy.
> He’s a good boy
sounds like she was describing a dog.

Honestly she should just step away from relationships and wanting a boy. She needs to work on HERSELF. She needs some work. She needs to learn how life works and how to be an adult. She needs to learn responsibility and how to be a decent human being.

> I’m a good person

I find that if a person says that, they aren’t. If you have to describe how great you are, you aren’t. Actions speak louder than words.

She also mentioned not caring if people “hate” on her or whatever, but if that was the case she wouldn’t have had that rant on her stories about the past weekend.

No. 820691

Is she talking about Ryan or Damian? She needs to explore in other places

No. 820712

>>820691

Looks like she’s talking about Damien, surprisingly. The way she talked about him and all that made it seem like she was talking about Ryan.

Why do all these guys she ends with always treats her like crap in some way?

No. 820758

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>>820691
Damien

No. 820876

Heather deactivated her Facebook and is only using IG now. Holy shit. All this because she couldn’t be with Ryan or rebound Damien?

I’m fairly certain too back when she was with Ryan late last year, she mentioned too how he had a dark side, etc, and was mean. So she’s saying that about Damien, said it about Ryan and Adam… sooo she’s either stupid for falling in love with men from dark sides (she did post an ig store saying girls who are empaths fall for men like this, etc) or is she lying again to get people on her side cuz she’s playing victim again?

No. 820929

>>820876
She’s not an empath it’s obvious she’s just blaming everyone but herself

No. 820932

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Looks like Damien denied her affections. I can see the reason why. She posts constantly about previous guy and she tries to move on with Damien. Damien wants nothing but to distance himself. He made a new IG acc it seems. Oh Heather, I'm at loss with her.
1st time posting. Not sure if I'm doing this right.(read the rules)

No. 821014

>>820932
I’m starting to think the post if him declaring his love on here was Heather. She’s psycho enough to do so.

No. 821083

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This is why Heather will never change. This is why she constantly runs to social media with her problems. This is why she plays the victim every single time something doesn't go her way. Her fans are hurting more than helping, and she's eating it up.

No. 821092

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No. 821123

>>821092
Get saying boy is so cringe. He’s a bloody man!

God I would love to see her “spill the tea”. I would love to see how Damien is the bad guy in all of this. Right now I’m just not seeing this and feel like she’s just pulling his card to get sympathy from others. Damien looks like he does nothing but explore and take photos ffs. I bet someone like him would want to live on the down-low if he’s been to jail.

No. 821149

>>821092
Um…… she remembers how she was in a committed relationship and cheated with him…. does she remember also stating that SHES DOING THIS BECAUSE SHE LIVES DEATH SHES A WITCHY WITCH AND SHE LOOOOVVVEEESS EXPLORING. Like switch much? She is just down right nuts. Every guy she dates she cheats on so she’s never going to find a guy unless they keep it open. She’s icky.

No. 821150

She deleted all her ig stories on Damien.

No. 821180

>>821150
So when people call her out she can say we are being mean and hateful and making up things to bring her down

No. 821187

>>821092
these people sound like 16 year olds

No. 821188

>>821092
these people sound like 16 year olds

No. 821217

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No. 821218

>>821188
They really do sound like children, both of them. It's really hard to believe that Heather is almost 30 years old.

It's funny how she keeps talking about him pushing people away, when that's what she's been doing this whole time.

No. 821306

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She went from saying Ryan was the love of her life and that Damien was a mess and a douche. Now Damien is the one that got away. I don't get it

No. 821453

>>821306
Everyone that gives her attention is the love of her life. I bet she said the same thing about Adam at one point in her life and about every other man she’s been with.

I doubt she’ll ever take a step back and work on herself. Sounds like she just wants a man to take care of her for the rest of her life while she sits on her ass and does whatever she wants while her man works his arse off.

No. 821509


No. 821510

>>821509

In reference to that video, this is the vlog she’s referring to.

No. 821520

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>>821510
Omfg Heather like straight up copied this poor girl!
Then when she goes blonde Heather goes blonde. Like you look thru a lot of her photos before her being pink she’s a mirror image of this chick. Disgusting and then she steals her ideas! Ugh I wish I could give this gurl Gabby a hug. Yet Heathers fam still stands behind her

No. 821546

>>821509
her only examples of copying are a vlogmas video decorating trees, and a photoshoot with balloons… heather is cringey but this girl is no better

No. 821658

>>821509
The whole copying thing doesn't seem to have any merit, but I do agree with her on a few points she made.

She talked about how Heather didn't give herself a chance to heal from her divorce before she got involved with another man and then got upset over the whole ghosting situation. Then she talked about how Heather made a big deal about changing her "style" and that she constantly points out which brand (Killstar) she's wearing, as if she wants them to send her free shit. Those are super valid points.

No. 821729

>>821658
Yeah, it’s every week, too, that she mentions and shows off something Killstar related. I’m pretty certain just a few days ago she was showing off more bags she just received from Killstar too.

I don’t think she realises that she’s not “popular” enough on YouTube or Instagram to be sponsored by Killstar. Hell, I can’t think of anyone off the top of my head who is sponsored by Killstar but I feel like there’s people sponsored by Dollkill or whatever the other brand is called (lol).

No. 822021

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I think damien responded to her posting her whiny crap.

No. 822081

>>821509

I watched that video and she is annoying as fuck. she's trying to get more views because of heathers drama being put on blast. Gab is dull as a door knob. Not saying heather didn't copy off of her work but, I hate to say it, what youtuber hasn't copied someone in one way or another?? Gab isn't anything special and needs to quite while she's ahead. As far as heather goes, I think she's starting to hit puberty now.

No. 822083

looks like she found another guy to leech on to. she must be giving either great head or anal for these dudes to drive her all around and explore.

No. 822092

>>822083
I heard from one of ex’s that she’s terrible in bed. Cries about it hurting. So I’m guessing the giving head route, which isn’t hard at all. These guys are probably not hitting it out if the park with the ladies.

No. 822097

She really is a lazy fuck. She thinks killstar is going to give her free clothes to be their sponsor? Just get off your fuckin ass and be an adult. You can't keep cradling dicks for the rest of your life. Get a job, work for once at life, being on your back is easy. Unreal, how many times has she said shes going to do ABC.

No. 822150

>>822092
Arguably if the woman is in pain it's the man who's terrible in bed. It isn't that difficult to do some foreplay or get some lube rather than jamming it in dry. Complaining about someone hurting you =/= bad in bed.

No. 822218

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Another man with a tattoo. Looks a bit like Ryan tbh. Maybe that’s why she’s hanging out with him and maybe will be the next man she’ll fall in love with or something.

No. 822299

>>822150
From what I was told they would do foreplay. Her ex told me she constantly complained about how small her vagina was and how Adams dick was a perfect fit for her. Every time they’d do it she’d complain or cry. And she doesn’t know what to do in bed from what I heard.

No. 822326

>>822092
>>822299
caps or no1curr.

No. 822379

>>822326
It involves the subject, just cause you don’t care doesn’t mean other people agree.

No. 822382

>>822379
any fucker can come in here and make up shit for clout and gossip. this is an imageboard for a reason; provide proof like the better threads or get out of here with your unsaged newfaggotry.

No. 822494

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We get it, you’re desperate for a boyfriend. It’s either this she brings up for Killstar.

No. 822823

She's currently doing a livestream; talking about Ryan and Damien.

No. 822835

>>822823
In no specific order, but some stuff of what happened in her stream. There's still more happening in the stream.

> goes on about wanting to find someone

> cries and quickly stops
I know stream quality was okay, but her make-up wasn't messed up at all.
> keeps talking about Ryan and Damien
> talks about seeing numbers every day (ex. 777, 444)
> "i'M aN EMpaTH"
> "I'm alone in the world, no one I can connect with. I'm hopeless with dating" - but wants to find someone??? thinks people "lust" over her
> constantly brings up Ryan
> felt bad because Damien didn't want to post a photo of them on his story
Isn't his IG just of photography and nothing personal?
> Mentions her and her family doesn't get along when someone asks why doesn't she spend more time with her family. Says that when she was a goth when she was younger was what ruined her relationship because they're Catholic.
> Says she's a social person and loves being around people
Yet she stays home all the time unless someone drives her out to explore somewhere
> Monday - is spending a lot of money she doesn't have for a trip. Is going somewhere "special" and is (couldn't hear her properly, I think she said this) hanging out with someone "special". Then complains about no cell service. And complains about how it'll cost her $140 both ways ($70 each way). Also mentions she doesn't want to say where she's going because of "the haters."
She also shows off her new Killstar purse.
> Lists off the man she wants: youtuber, explorer, etc
Sounds like she just wants a male version of herself, tbh.
> "Photography saved my life", "I know nothing about photography"
Para-phrasing
> "Are you getting a car?" "Won't be able to ever afford one."
> Stop talking about where she's going to talk about her lipstick.
> Keeps mentioning a letter she wrote for either Ryan and wants to read it on the stream.
> Reads the letter, stops to laugh at certain parts, "I tried looking for another you but couldn't find one", "oOps, SpILlT TEa", censors personal parts out, compares a tree changing to herself, mentions the video made for him, "very busy boy", stops reading to restart livestream.
> is wearing cat ears during this whole livestream
> Mentions views in her IG stories and her livestreams
> Continues to read the letter: "I respect your personal space and privacy", "Wouldn't it be awkward if he randomly tuned in??", couldn't watch anything with him in it without crying, mentions that she told him that he wouldn't be in his life around the summer, sneaks in a "I told her so" in the letter, stops reading and starts crying.
> shows off photos of her and Ryan that she going to put in the letter.
> "he was best boy"
He's not a dog, he's a man.
> "i fucking worshipped that boy"
…what?
> says how messed up Damien is and how messed up he made her
> more crying, stops crying when people said they liked her letter to Ryan
> Mentions that Ryan told her someone sent him a huge essay about Heather, saying the haters have no lives.
Did someone cowtip? Or is this BS?
> Keeps mentioning wanting proper closure
> Is drinking water from a glass milk-jug
Would this be irony?
> Has PTSD from the break-up with Ryan
> Has been lonely for "far too long."
> Mentions she was up till 4am in a haunted prison; "choke me ghost daddy"
> Had to tell some spirits to leave Damien alone because he's afraid of ghosts.
> thinks depressed/anxious people are more in-tuned with spirits.

No. 822898

>>822835
How can anyone stand watching her live? She sounds so bipolar and psychotic. Then again there’s always the fans that keep her going.

No. 822904

>>822835
> "Are you getting a car?" "Won't be able to ever afford one."
YEAH BITCH, IF YOU DON'T STOP RANDOMLY DROPPING HUNDREDS ON FUN. Killstar, exploring gear, random "special trips," expensive antiques… it's like this person has never once learned how to budget. It's like common sense evades her in so many aspects of her life. She could get a used vehicle for $3-5k (or even cheaper if she didn't really mind if it lasted her too long) and finally get out on her own, start being able to drive herself to a job? So she could maybe start, I don't know, earning a living and becoming independent? You know, all those things she keeps waxing poetic about wanting to do? Christ, it's this shit that's so aggravating about Heather. She whines about all the shit she wants without ever wanting to actually put in the work to get it. She truly just thinks everything should be handed to her. A "perfect man," a youtube career where she can upload ~whatever she wants~ and be her ~true self~ or whatever, an audience that won't criticize her ever and will only suck her ass… I just can't fathom how someone gets to be nearing 30 years old and is still so stunted, so entitled, so faux-helpless and manipulative. She really must be very sad. Girl needs therapy, and fast.

>>822898
I suspect that most of the views on those are from people just tuning in for the spectacle. I wonder if that what this comment was about:
>>822835
> Mentions views in her IG stories and her livestreams

No. 822921

>>822904
She mentioned how around 100 people came in and out to watch her livestream and how she gets about 600 views on her stories.. I honestly can't remember why she brought all that up; I think it was around the time she had to restart her livestream.

No. 822925

>>822921
I doubt she gets 600. She probably said the count just to fake flaunt. Thinking she counts. She probably has some dude on the side buying her her Killstar she doesn’t make enough anymore on YouTube to buy that in quantity like she is.

No. 822941

>>822925
If she had some side-guy or a sugar daddy, then she wouldn't be complaining so much about how lonely and single she is.

No. 822946

>>822941
Manipulating a guy to get stuff isn’t hard. U can get stuff from dudes and not put out or have a boyfriend

No. 823339

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Fairly certain Heather mentioned not too long ago that she deleted her Facebook and was only focusing on her Instagram. Seems like she couldn’t stay away for too long.

No. 823413

>>823339
She also posted a bunch of videos on her IG stores of Ryan (she was attending a tour and he was the tour guide, so practically while at work).

No. 823421

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>>823413
Yup the poor dude cant even work and shes there front and center.

No. 823470

>>823421
I watched her story and noticed he tried not to look at her.

No. 823491

>>823470
I bet he didn’t want to be recorded but I bet guests can record whatever they want.

No. 823542

Ryan asked who wants a picture when they were inside the cells and she said "I do" and he flat out ignored her. Lol

No. 823543

I dont know how she plans on making money she hasnt done a YouTube video inna minute.

No. 823546

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>>823421
Oh my god, Heather leave the man alone. Can you imagine trying to give a tour where you have to basically recite a huge script and then you see this staring back at you shoving a phone in your face the whole time?

No. 823547

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>>823421
Ryan kept trying to glance over her but he made pained eye contact a few times. Guy looked like he wanted to run.

No. 823569

>>823547
You can tell how uncomfortable that dude is in most of clips when he's just trying to do his job and ignore her. Holy shit she is a mega creep!

No. 823630

She also showed pictures of her hanging out with a guy that is friends with Ryan too. Is she trying to be friends with his friends so they’ll go on about how great she is to Ryan? Kek. It ain’t gonna happen, sis.

She also gave Ryan that letter too she went on about in her livestream. You think he even read it or just threw it out?

No. 823925

First of all, her showing up at his job was completely uncalled for. If she was mature and not such a psycho she would of met up with Ryan outside of work hours or even on his day off. I understand she can record the tour, but she was purposely trying to make him feel uncomfortable which is completely fucked up. At least he has a job that he enjoys, unlike her leeching off of everyone. The bottom line is, she will never grow up. She just doesn't get it. This is just a phase in her life until something else comes along. She likes to refer to her ex as her "room mate" bitch, you are living in his house still!! You are fuckin LUCKY he allows you to still keep your stuff there after all this bullshit. She is so oblivious to real life…

No. 823927

>>823543

She still has 30k followers on her main channel, she'll make some money on that if she decides to show toy videos again ( which she will, because this whole goth shit won't last long) her explore channel is total garbage. No one wants to watch goth pinkie pie explore a "spooky" building with a vocabulary of "omg omg omg"

No. 823928

>>823630
I'm sure he read it, and I'm sure he is regretting fuckin her.

No. 824309

Her latest video is another killstar haul. I used to feel really bad for her but I'm starting to change my mind. She said she didn't want to accumulate stuff, but is rapidly growing a collection of Killstar stuff (do you really need several black bags in a very similar style?). She said she wanted to save up for driving lessons, but seems to be spending a lot on her new warddobe instead of saving. I looked up Killstar because I was curious and they're not cheap. I understand she's going through a style change and wants new clothing to reflect that, but I think her spending is a bit excessive.

No. 824366

She's delusional. No one cares about her exploring shit. She doesn't explore anywhere interesting and it takes her ten years to upload a video. She's worse than that glitter critter girl

No. 824369

>>824309
In her live on instagram about a day or two ago, she kept talking about how she shouldn't have spent so much money on killstar (but here we are) and the same shit over and over AND over again(needs to save money for a car, to move, needs a boyfriend…).

No. 824413

Another, I dont need validation video. How many of these kind of videos is she gonna do?

No. 824423

Her channel is gonna die. She literally told her subscribers to unsubscribe wow.

No. 824427

God, she went from “Where do we go next?” to “I don’t need validation.” She is getting increasingly desperate. Does anyone have a clip from the livestream? I’m also really curious to see her creeping out Ryan live.

No. 824429

It’s so irritating how in her validation video she says “I lose 100 subscribers everytime I upload something and don’t talk about My Little Pony.” Shes acting like an entitled child. The only reason people watch her is because they want to see toy content. If she wants to stay on youtube, if she doesn’t put out anymore of this content, she’s going to lose all of her subs.

No. 824434

>>824413
There it is, "influencer." She's really desperate to be one of those Killstar/goth model chicks or whatever the dude she's into follows on instagram as other people have pointed out. She really needs to shut the fuck up and just do what she keeps saying she's going to do if she's so unbothered and doesn't need the validation.

No. 824452

I don't mind the change in content, I followed her for toys but if the new content is interesting I'll stick around. I just wanted to wait and see what kinda stuff she'd upload before I decided. I'm still waiting. I wish she'd stop posting all these "I'm changing" videos, and just upload new content (something that isn't a another killstar haul).

No. 824454

Her killstar hauls are lame af. I find it offensive that she thinks the kawaii and toy collecting is cringey. Alot of us that followed her liked that sort of aesthetic. It wasn't cringey when she was making money off it and her man didnt mind. Now that the losers shes chasing dont like it suddenly its cringe. She's so fake. I felt bad for her but now I'm like whatever.

No. 824456

>>824454
She did the same thing with the bjds and it really bothered me. I'm still into bjds and hearing her talk down about all her old bjd stuff seemed really rude. I can't remember the exact wording, but she was on instagram months ago like "how do I get rid of all this crap?" (referring to her bjd collection) and that really bothered me. You can move on without insulting the things you used to be into. She's really insulting both the bjd and toy community by talking about it the way she does.

No. 824476

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Seems like she is making herself to be a victim? People are leaving because it doesn't fit with their aesthetic not because you're being your "true self"

No. 824478

>>824476
Making herself look like a victim is what she does best. Every man she's been with and has left her has been an ass in some way.. Though I'm fairly certain she said the same thing about Ryan when that whole fiasco first went down saying he was manipulative yet she continues to "change" and wants to be with him?? She isn't a victim.

No. 824503

Is it just me or does she create the drama herself?! And if she doesn't need validation why does she need a video talking about it? That is needed validation for not needing validation. She's right though. Her cringe is why people watch

No. 824504

Once again asking a bit off topic-
Why does the word victim appear in red font?

(Also is there a place where all of this is outlined so I don’t keep chiming in with dumb questions?)

No. 824510

>>824504
Some words like trigger and problematic (usually words overused by tumblr sjw-types) are displayed in red comic sans. It's just poking fun at the whiteknights that'll come in here and spew those buzzwords in order to virtue signal.

No. 824511

Didn’t she say in one of her first videos discussing changes for her channel that she intended to focus on herself and move on? She continues to bother Ryan after proclaiming otherwise.

No. 824512

>>824511
That's the thing with Heather, she just says shit without thinking first. She'll say she's going to start doing one thing, but give her a couple days and suddenly "everything's changed!" and she begins to do something totally contradictory to what she said she was going to do in the first place. She said she was going to save up for driver's ed and moving out, but she drops hundreds on a new wardrobe instead. She said she was going to keep filming toy/kawaii content, never did, and then decided to give up on that altogether. She said she was going to try to work on herself and that she wasn't ready for a relationship, but then she got into a relationship with Damien and we all saw how that went down. The girl's whims change on a dime, and she seemingly doesn't care about what she's said in the past and how it contradicts what she's currently doing. She's insanely unstable and gets herself tangled in her lies consistently.

No. 824517

>>824413

Her main channel (not explore channel) got changed to Heather Michelle, not Heather Sparkles. Someone in the comment suggested Heather Spooks. Oh no. Didn't we discuss new names for her not too long ago? Let's hope she doesn't choose one of those.

Also, her losing "100 subs everytime she posts a video" is utter bullshit. Checking her socialblade, she's been gaining subs; though it does says there's a daily -10 subs per day. Maybe it's the fact that's she not posting frequently? She's a "youtuber" and she's not posting content.

Also her new description on her Heather Sparkles channel:
> Heather Michelle is a fashion vlogger, Explorer, Paranormal Investigator and collector of many interesting things.

No. 824518

>>824309

> Made to look like a witches "book of shadows"..

Gurl, don't you mean a grimoire? She claims to be "witchy" and doesn't know the term grimoire?

Also, she put the links to the items in the description.. She spent over $250 in bags from Killstar. Who needs that many bags? So she had to at least spent anywhere in the range of $700 to $1,000 just in Killstar recently (might be a high estimate, but oh well. I hate maths and I'm not going to waste my time finding every item she's bought and done a video on).

No. 824520

>>824518
I had a spare 30 minutes the other day and looked around on the Killstar website. A lot of the clothes and accessories she got were on clearance, but some weren't. I didn't take the time to add it all up, but I would bet she's spent at least $400-500.

No. 824521

She can change her interests and her look, none of that bothers me. But to straight up act like her toy collection didn't bring her joy these last couple years is just weird. I watched her videos and saw how over the moon and excited she was to find things and get things. To deny that was ever the case is what makes her fake in my opinion.

No. 824522

>>824521
She's distancing herself from the toys as much as possible because she's trying to get male attention.

No. 824551

She doesn't need Ryan's validation but yet stalked his ass out. Yeah okay.

No. 824575

Honestly thought Ryan would be blocking her by now..

No. 824710

It's okay to change your interests, but its not real great to completely crap on the collector community. I like gothic fashion but with her it honestly comes off as incredibly forced and fake.

No. 824713

She has reviewed a candle on her stories saying it smelled like asbestos, has somebody ever told her that crap gives you cancer??? Girl put your fucking mask when you go out there

No. 824722

>>824713
I remember one time she said she bought a mask for when she explored and then never saw her use it when in videos or photos. She doesn’t even wear a mask when she’s in abandon places for her ghost hunting either. Even ghost hunters on television take precautions and mask up. She doesn’t. She’s not the sharpest tool in the shed.

No. 824748

She treats her viewers/subscribers with utter contempt. She may have over 30,000 subscribers but the majority would have subscribed believing she was going to continue with her vintage toy collecting. Every few years she gets bored and moves on to something else. She arrogantly just expects people to view her videos regardless of whether she does a complete U-turn. This makes no sense what-so-ever. She may have 30,000 + subscribers but her videos are only getting seen but a few thousand at best within a four week period, meaning that most of her subscribers aren't bothering to watch her uploads as they are not interested. She thinks she's being sneaky but obtaining more subscribers by changing her interests, appearance etc but it's the amount of views you get within 48hrs of posting a video that's really important. She comes across as utterly fake and as a toy collector myself I find her current attitude insulting to me and my fellow collectors.

No. 824753

I should imagine that many of her child viewers/fans that were looking forward to her doing more toy restoration videos, customising toys etc feel very let down and are somewhat confused by her rapid so-called transformation, which is not convincing at all. This is not a good way to retain supporters. If she wants to alienate her viewers she's doing a mighty good job of it. She appears to be desperate to make money out of youtube yet this isn't the way to go about it. You need to be consistent at uploading videos and if she has no job I can't understand why she hasn't been uploading at least a couple of videos a week that have good quality content. Many of her subscribers just haven't bothered or got round to unsubscribing but if she continues the way she is, people are going to get fed up with her attitude, catch on to the fact she's playing up to the camera and are likely to abandon her channel completely.

No. 824812

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People here talks about how she doesnt wear mask ever and how dangerous is breathing mold and asbestos and she upoads this to her stories… hi heather

No. 824931

>>824812
She really needs to put her hair up. Its gonna get all dusty and full cobwebs and other crap.

No. 825009

>>824812
I swear I've seen this photo before. I think this was the only time she wore a mask. Any other time I've seen her mask has been on her backpack when she's exploring.

Also in her story, it's clear she's with someone or someone is taking her where ever she's going to explore. I'm curious if she's gonna mention that she's doing a solo explore? Or if she's going to be hanging out with someone who knows Ryan? Or if she's going to keep her "promise" she mentioned in one of her livestreams that Anon posted the long ass summary for.

No. 825066

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Oh no. He’s an explorer and a YouTuber. He better watch out or else she might be his next victim.

No. 825067

>>825066
Had a dyslexic moment.

He better watch out or else he’ll be her next victim. Kek

No. 825072

>>825066
Do all these people that end up in Heather's instagram stories know they're being filmed/photographed? Are they aware that Heather has a bad reputation for putting far too much of her personal life on the internet? I know I wouldn't let myself get anywhere near Heather because she'd be liable to post something unflattering or far too personal for the internet. How many of her irl friends do you think have distanced themselves from her because they don't want to get dragged into her spectacle of an online presence?

No. 825102

>>824812

She's known since she was in the bjd hobby that she needs a respirator. she used to bring up in her vintage toy videos that she was scared of finding mold in the vintage MLP she'd find. I know that putting in her commentary in post would take work, but she knows this is a super dumb risk for aesthetic and dicking.

No. 825122

Holy crap!

Sage for no real contrib but I just wanted to say that I used to be a fan of hers until now. I found Heather a few years ago because I love vintage toys and kawaii/pastel aesthetics and fashion and she had quite a lot of videos on that stuff. She always seemed quaint and I honestly was wishing I could be friends with her or collab somehow (I'm a smaller kawaii fashion blogger). I had no idea she was such a HUGE cow until now.
I was wondering why I didn't see her videos popping up in my youtube sub feed for a while, but never thought to investigate. Who knew all this was going down behind the scenes.
I'm glad I never tried to talk to her forreal. She would have just ignored me probably.

No. 825179

>>824713
She just directly responded to you in her stories. In her stories she says "Does that dumb bitch know asbestos causes cancer?" even tho you don't call her a dumb bitch. So confirmed lurker who is also fabricating whats being said here.

No. 825210

>>825179
She actually said TWICE being called "dumb bitch" regarding the candle stuff. She's obviously trying to lure her fans to come here and defend her.

No. 825218

>>825210
I like how she’s making the candle comment here worse than it was. Always playing the victim. She also had to be fucking dumb and childish about it, “you’re just jealous you didn’t get one.”

No. 825229

No one even called her a dumb bitch.. she really loves trying to create drama.

No. 825236

Idk if many of you guys know, but some of her old COD videos exist. She has had SEVERAL channels including, KandiAcid, KittyRavage, BJDolls, Heather Sparkles and now her Urband Explore.
This is not the first time that's she's switched interests to benefit her current Fad.

No. 825258

According to her last insta story the dumb bitch is me because apparently I stated the candle contained asbestos – which i havent. I merely asked if you didn't knew that asbestos gave you cancer, yet you're blowing it all out of proportions inventing the story you want to share to have the pity of the public.

And so, I haven't called you any fucking thing but honestly dear if you think what makes you a "dumb bitch" is smelling crap on your urban exploring videos, you're deadass wrong.

No. 825266

>>825236
There are like 3 other people who have come in here saying this even though its all been posted already. If you're new here, read the thread before posting. Or search in the page "kittyravage" or "jill valentine" for her irrelevant old phases.

Also ffs you guys at least try and quote her instastories properly so us non-insta users dont have to piece together your crappy posts. also I hope we all know that some asbestos is toxic and some isnt, just in case that argument comes up in this derailment.

No. 825397

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Jfc Heather, GET A JOB!

I don't understand. I really don't. How does she not seem to have a single real life friend telling her that she's a financial fuck up and needs to stop buying useless shit? She claims she stays at home for the most part, so why are you buying all these clothes when you don't really go anywhere?

No. 825494

>>825397
bUUUUUt aNoN, she needs to pay for her hair to be bleached again so she can get rid of the pink and she needs more Killstar; and getting a job is just too hard because then she won't have any time for exploring!

No. 825503

>>825397
I feel like Adam is getting a good front row seat for this nonsense right about now. He's sure as shit not telling her to slow her roll on the spending.

No. 825515

Did anyone notice on her latest explore she was out with Ashley Zoe Fox who has been doing a lot of videos Adam recently. Hmmm, interesting.

No. 825520

>>825515
I just watched Lord Explores stories and Heather is there with Adam

No. 825540

So Heather went exploring this weekend and went to the supposed place that meant a lot to her with Lord Explores, Ashley, Adam, and maybe possible others? I thought in her stream she said she was going alone? Holy shit is she filled with lies. But hey, let’s see if she tries to clear this up. Clearly she’s lurking since she’ posted more photos of her in her mask in her stories today.

No. 825863

Why does she have to say “whenever” instead of “when.”

No. 825913

>>825863
Omg yessss!!! I thought I was the only one bothered by this!!

No. 825924

Why is she still living with a man who she says was supposedly "gaslighting" her? There is something very suspect going on. She claimed he was controlling her yet he allowed her(and probably still does) to have a bedroom dedicated to her toy collection & for filming. Doesn't sound bad to me. Rather the men she is trying to get off with appear to be the ones trying to convince her to change. Personally I feel that when she lost the weight, straightened her teeth etc, she got too full of herself and decided she could get someone better with some of her so-called fans convincing her that her husband was bad. Take a video for example some time ago where we saw them go to Ikea to purchase some shelves for her toy collection. They had a trivial argument yet some people claimed it made them feel awkward (not me) and they seemed to be stirring things up knowing how gullible she is and that she'll take it all in. Her husband must either be a complete sucker or he is in on it for the publicity because if he's the main breadwinner paying the bills, as she doesn't work and she can't live off the insufficient amount of money she makes through youtube, he can kick her out and she can go home to her mom. Gaslighting (dominating, manipulative & controlling behaviour) is a serious issue for some men/women and she's taking the p by claiming this is what her husband had been doing. She's so immature for age perhaps at times it was necessary for him to control her spending etc and she didn't like it and then thought I will get sympathy and make out he's been treating me badly. Her erratic behaviour implies that there is mentally something not quite right with her so if he dared to suggest she get professional help I don't think that would have gone down too well with her ego and she would want to twist things to make it appear that's he's trying to control her. His way of dealing with things after she slept with another man left a lot to be desired but I think she's full of c and I don't believe a word she says. She keeps contradicting herself. She's been lucky to have someone who's prepared to earn a living in the REAL world while she continues living her DREAM life and doesn't adequately contribute financially. Is she on benefits I wonder? I don't know how it works in the US as I don't live there but she seems well enough to me to go urban exploring so surely she could get a job even if its part-time in retail, at a factory etc. Her husband seems content for her to spend money on unnecessary clothing hauls so none of it makes much sense to me. I noticed whenever anyone on youtube asked her where she worked she always avoided the question. She is too reliant on other people and just wants another man to sponge off of. If she was to make it "big" time on youtube then she'd get rid of him in a flash. She appears to be a user both with potential love interests and friends.

No. 825928

Her new exploring video is boring af. All you hear is her breathing into the mask. "Omg there's a big stove back there" like wtf

No. 826020

>>825928
Boring location, boring person, boring filming. 48 minutes of shitty closeups of shit nobody cares about and her blatanmt sucking up to the guy "wow" at everything he says.

and what 6 adverts? fuck off heather. Nobody signed up for this shit so stop trying to milk it for all its worth.

No. 826061

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So she just uploaded a story to her instagram saying she’s going to move all her vids from her explore channel to her main. It took her a while to realize her explore account is not making money at all.

No. 826072

>>826061
She could have been making money off her exploring videos if she didn’t make her stupid second channel in the first place. But I bet now that she’s putting her explore videos on her main page, I have a feeling they won’t be getting the views she wants so maybe she’ll start complaining about that soon and going on about how her main channel is a mess and it’s dead.

FYI Heather, your main channel isn’t dead. The fact that you’re posting videos having to explain yourself over and over and over, that’s what’s killing it. People want to see content, whether it’s toys or exploring or once in awhile a story time; not a video of you explaining yourself or showing off how much money you’re spending on Killstar only to complain about how much debt you’re in.

No. 826227

>>825540
I do some urban exploring and one MAJOR Rule is don't go alone so maybe Adam and this Ashley person convinced her to let them go with.

No. 826267

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I’m calling BS on this. How could someone accidentally leave you somewhere? Or is this one of those r/thathappened situations?

No. 826347

>>825924

There's been no shortage of pretty straightforward evidence that Adam is a shitstain from multiple anons in this thread. He's also complained for years that he can't just divorce her because their marital agreement would put him at the bigger loss as far as splitting property and wages earned since they got married. The longer she's stuck with him, getting stuck in debt but having 'valuable' things to offset how much more money he makes, the less of his own stuff he'd have to sacrifice if she ever got up the nerve to go through with separating.

No. 826361

Why is she claiming that she's being true to herself lol? I remember when she changed her youtube name from freyabunny (a predominately ball-jointed-doll channel) to Heather sparkles and she clearly said she wanted to dress more colourfully/kawaii and that was a her prime aspiration. Now she's changed her image again. She's let down the majority of her subscribers by talking about stuff that has nothing to do with toy collecting. And she has the nerve to moan about it. I'm assuming that she's just working her way to selling off her collection completely, there's no point keeping them if they don't fit in with her so called current "aesthetic" (such an overused word of hers) and taking up space. The Sparkle fam is no more and all those who sent her free gifts (handmade colourful jewellery, retro toys etc) were duped. I guess she'll want to get rid of all that eventually too and expect folks to buy her gothic related merchandise. She was given a lot of nice things that were very colourful as that is what she originally said she was about all. She now has the cheek to blame her subscribers that they are dismayed over her sudden change of direction both with her channel content and her appearance. Yes you do have a duty to some extent to please your viewers, she doesn't seem to get that, somewhat arrogant. She doesn't come across as genuine because if you're a true toy enthusiast that never leaves you, you don't suddenly chuck it in and claim you are done with all that. You may add to your interests gradually over time but this isn't what she's done. Urban exploring is vastly different to collecting toys/purchasing quirky,colourful clothes. Even when clearing out her wardrobe of kawaii clothes to sell (several of which she's never worn which made me cross) she looked conflicted so why do it? There are highly successful youtubers who are adult toy collectors and they have no problem having an audience of both children and grown-ups. I'm thinking heather didn't like kids sending her stuff, she's way too cool for that. I really don't care what she gets up to in her personal life but she's allowed it to affect her channel in an amateurish way, how many more dull videos of her complaining? Most folks don't want to see that. YouTube is often a form of escapism after a long day at work, college etc, she certainly doesn't sparkle.

No. 827050

Things she needs to start doing now: 1. STOP FUCKIN COMPLAINING. Holy fuck, complains and complains about not having a boyfriend. You do NOT need a boyfriend while you are still living with you ex. Get your shit together already. 2. GO TAKE A BUS, AN UBER, WHATEVER THE FUCK YOU WANT, AND GO GET A JOB, GO APPLY TO JOBS ONLINE. The fact of the matter is, she is just too damn lazy to want to get a job. Her pink hair, has to go, she'll never been taken seriously with that shit. As a whole, she really doesn't contribute much to society. No job, no means of transportation, can't take care of herself. She's really let everything get out of control, and no one is to blame for that but herself. She can't take responsibility for her own actions. She wants to let her channel go to shit, so be it. Its been going to shit for quite some time before she became a wanna be witch. How many collection videos are you going to post? same shelf, same shit over and over again. Complete lack of creativity . I don't know wtf she does all day without having a job, if she has no job, her fuckin content SHOULD OF BEEN TOP NOTCH WAY BEFORE ALL THE DARK SHIT. Her toy content was lacking for quite sometime. Heather is just a lazy bum, plain and simple. No man wants that. You can change the color of your hair, your clothes, but eventually they'll see the real you and the lack of motivation you have for yourself in life and that is a huge turn off.

No. 827230

>>827050
Now that you mention her pink hair, on her ig stories she was talking about how she's going blonde so she'd have a better chance at getting a job and it seems like she's also embarrassed by the pink hair? I don't know, but this girl is fucking trippin' and she definitely lurks here. She mentioned how people think she's using "witch" as an aesthetic (or something to that effect) but claims to have been wiccan before…okay cool, if you don't need validation then shut the fuck up and don't address this shit to try to keep proving yourself, just do what you're going to do and shut the fuck up.

No. 827305

Incoming image dump from Heather's instagram q&a she did last night. I know a lot of people in this thread are clueless about how lolcow works, but this is an image thread. If you're talking about something Heather has said or something she's posted, post a screencap of what you're talking about so other people in the thread get the context. Don't just say "Heather said blank last night on instagram" because your assessment of what was said might be skewed or you could've just made it up and people would have no way to know. Just take screenshots and upload it with your commentary attached, not that hard.

No. 827308

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Apparently she's gained weight and is doing an exercise challenge for the next 30 days.

No. 827312

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Wants to sort her life out so she can do more exploring. Not milky but good for making note of her aspirations and goals at this moment in time. Let's see how far she progresses towards them in like 6 months.

No. 827314

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Feels lonely and is selling stuff online to distract herself.

No. 827317

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Has actually been posting some stuff to depop. Realized it had been too long without a youtube paycheck and you finally decided to get your ass in gear, Heather?

No. 827319

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Will be making a video soon about her return to Wicca. Good lord, this cow dips her toes in everything retarded, doesn't she?

No. 827322

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Getting rid of the pink hair that she said she'd never get rid of and was part of her identity.

No. 827326

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Saw "shadow people" when she was a child, still overusing the term empath because it makes her feel like her neuroses are just her being "so in-tune with emotions and nature uwu."

No. 827329

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Intending on getting a new job, so that's good, though I feel like if her situation is as dire as she says it is, she should be trying a bit harder than she is (newsflash, spending entire days frolicking through abandoned buildings and pissing away time on instagram does not a new job make). Also if you need to sell tons of shit to "sustain yourself," why the fuck did you buy an entire new wardrobe? She still hasn't addressed this and it's the huge elephant in the room imo.

No. 827333

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Going blonde to help with her love life. Where are this woman's priorities, damn.

No. 827334

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Wants to set up a patreon but doesn't know what she'd offer to patrons. Also is planning on doing youtube livestreams with superchats. Keep your eyes peeled for those, if she ever gets around to doing them.

No. 827339

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Cool kids don't sleep, guys.

/end dump

No. 827495

>>827319
I feel like this is another way showing that she lurks here; the mentioning of not making being a witch be a fashion statement.

>>827322
I feel like getting rid of her pink (most likely will get it bleached) is a bit too soon and will damage her hair. She just recently did her hair this month and is out going to get rid of it early July. She's gonna fry her hair.

>>827329
I'm curious if she'll get a job or if she's going to keep pushing youtube because she's been lacking on youtube since the beginning of this year – she had six months to realise she needs a job. BUt I doubt she'll do it, she enjoys exploring too much and does it during hours that one has to work.

>>827333
Everything else in the world < Her Love Life = Heather in a nutshell.


Overall I wonder how many of these questions are actually from herself. Also, I just find it tacky when people answer questions and they use photos of themselves.

No. 827579

Honestly, just waiting for her to sell her toy collection so I can jump in lmao. Hopefully she gets around to doing that soon. I give up on her.

No. 827583

Notice how the “anon” asked her how her interest in spooky places developed. These q’s are clearly asked by herself. No one cares how it developed, no one cares about her amateur, posery “bando” exploring, and she overuses the word spooky like crazy.

No. 827589

She doesn’t have as many comments on her urbex videos. Hardly any actually. She had way more on her toy vids

No. 827863

She is so conceited. A very unattractive quality to have. Far too many selfies. Her Heathersparklesyt Instagram account (when she had it) was getting overrun with them. Many of them were filtered anyway and she just looked strange. While I appreciate someone having confidence she's going over the top. Needs to show some interesting photos, not just ones of her face or of her posing around.

No. 827897

I never understood why she didn't just stick to toy photos on her Heathersparklesyt ig. They were the most popular and got the most likes.

No. 827936

Heather, being wiccan is still not being a witch. If you were really that much into witchcraft and not just the aesthetic and the posserism you will know the difference.

No. 828258

>>827863

I agree. I followed her back then for toys. An occasional selfie is fine. But everyday it was 5+ selfies a day. Got so old and so annoying. Girl was obviously looking for attention she wasnt getting.
I was about to unfollow, then she deleted her ig. Now I’m loving watching this mess she is.

No. 828419

>>827495
I have heard somewhere that she is "Planning" on it, don't know how much of that is true

No. 828442

File: 1561692453946.jpg (1.15 MB, 1542x2220, 19-06-27-20-25-13-458_deco.jpg)

I missed the comments. It looked like she argued with someone but when I clicked it said comments had been turned off.

No. 828469

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I've lost count of the amount of times she has taken breaks. Seems kinda lazy

No. 828522

She’s a liar. She always says she’s taking a break then comes back 2 days later. As shown in previous posts. Also what does she need a break from exactly? She hardly even uploads to youtube except some boring exploring video.

No. 828523

What’s up with all her goth bands now?

No. 828581

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Stop lurking heather.

No. 828619

>>828469
no she's just crazy is all

No. 828754

>>828523
All she ever posts is The Birthday Massacre and doesn't really post about other "goth" music she listens to. Maybe Ryan or Adam said it was their favorite band and it's now her favorite band too.

No. 829367

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>>828522
Yup here she is again

No. 829487

>>828522
Was literally 2 days and she’s back haha

No. 829491

>>828754
Birthday Massacre is pure pop for people who want to be part of the scene but think goth music is boring and industrial is too scary. I wouldn't be surprised if she's genuine in liking it. One of the guys she's after probably likes industrial and recced TBM as something cutesy and accessible she'd get into.

No. 829602

I wonder how long it’ll take her to move on to metalcore and eventually black metal bc ~im a witch so shpooky~

No. 829737

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No. 829768

>>829737
You beat me to it.
Seems like she cant let him go. Him who, who knows? Could be Ryan, could be Damien.

No. 829781

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Who is this?

No. 829808

>>829781
It's our good friend Damian. >>796624

No. 829838

>>829781
I thought Damien was abusive and too mean to be around? Yet she’s hanging out with him? Most likely back together with him again

No. 829842

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Beat me again
That's Damien? I thought it was some other dude. Wow a whole lot of backpedaling shes gonna do.

No. 829844

>>829781
Oh wonderful Heather. Are you ready for another dramatic breakup with this dude? This girl will date any kind of douchebag as long as she's not all alone boohoo.

No. 829849

lmao Jesus Christ, they are both fuckin idiots lol

No. 829875

Oh, I see. She came back to social media to show off her new boy toy. Classic Heather. Any man willing to be with her is just an idiot at this point, she literally brings nothing to the table.

No. 829889

Still lives with her husband, still has no job, dumb guy comes back into her life, stalks the other guy at his job, what a whore bag.

No. 829892

aww, Damien set his profile to private, because he knows people are going to shit on him

No. 830197

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Lmao it's hilarious at this point I don't feel bad anymore.

No. 830199

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She lives off the social media its her fuel.

No. 830230

>>830197
For someone in debt and unemployed, she sure spends a lot. She's either intensely stupid or it's Adam's money.

No. 830303

>>830230
Probably is Adam's money.
If you're supposedly sick, go rest, not buy useless crap.

No. 830323

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>>820758
She posted some messages between her and Damien back when they hadnheir fallout. Didn’t see them on here.

No. 830324

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No. 830331

>>830323
What sort of unhinged maniac posts screenshots of private messages to their public instagram story? Jesus christ Heather sinks lower and lower every day.

No. 830343

>>830331

fellow lolcow Phoebe Tickner for one

No. 830348

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Is this code for she got some D and make attention over the weekend?!

No. 830392

I can’t believe she posted those to her story just… wow. Imagine being him and seeing that.

No. 830452

Who posts screen shots of text messages like that!? they both are idiots "I push people away" "i'm going to die of loneliness" just stop, if you got a job you wouldn't be so "lonely"

No. 830571

They both sound like teenagers who don't actually know what love is or how relationships work. Their messages to each other seem almost scripted, like a bad mid-2000s show about high schoolers. Either way, neither of them sound like they're almost 30. No clue how old Damian is, but it doesn't matter. He's just as dumb and immature as she is. They're perfect for each other!

No. 830575

>>830571
Damian is 26 years old will be 27 in July, see the link below this comment.

>>796921

No. 831025

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Umm stop you're not in high school.

No. 831049

>>830575
Thanks. I knew his age had been posted, I just forgot.

>>831025
This is so cringe, omg. Who says this stuff? Who real life says these things? No one wants Damian, Heather! Have at him!

No. 831489

>>831025
I wonder if she guilted him back into being in a relationship with her because she couldn't get Ryan again because it seems very suspicious that they broke up before she went to go see Ryan again and then got back together after Ryan (more-than-likely) denied her crazy ass again.

No. 831760

She most definitely guilted him into it. Just the way she was saying that she’s in too much pain to be “treated this way” aka ghosted because of her wacky behavior… She is manipulative.

No. 832206

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Cringe.

No. 832624

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So I guess with Damien? Cute? lol K.

No. 832724

>>832206
>>832624
This is so scary because she obviously wants to get married to Damien asap to have a place to live & money to spend. I'm surprised we havent had any input from Adam in the thread lately, maybe he gave up on manipulating her into staying. Does anyone follow his socials still?

No. 832736

>>832724
I do, on IG. He just shared memes.

No. 832738

>>832736
Shares* ugh

No. 832744

This whole situation is annoying. Im so freakin tired of her saying "im sorry I haven't updated my youtube content with more videos, soon though! its coming!' bitch you have been saying that since October, just stop already. Every week its the same shit. No one wants to watch your boring ass videos ,that's why no one has been asking when is your next video, because they suck. No one cares about your killstar obsession, and stop saying you are making new content for the channel, because we all know you're not. The only thing people give a shit about is your cats, end of story.

No. 832775

>>832744

no one gives a shit about her cats either.

No. 832776

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No. 832845

>>832775

Hell I don't even fucking care about her she can disappear for all I care and I honestly think that no one following her would even notice if she suddenly left youtube.

No. 832916

If any of you are at the furry convention "Anthrocon" in Pittsburgh, see if you spot her. Obviously don't approach her. You gotta treat her like the wild animal that she is.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 832917

>>832845

Lmao 100% truth(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)

No. 832928

I highly doubt she'll show up to Anthrocon ever again, or Tekko. That isn't her scene anymore. She's a totally new person, living her dream and finally being who she always wanted to be: A spoopy goth photographer who definitely doesn't collect toys any more, and never really cared for any of that stuff anyway. Remember?

No. 832945

>>832928

Well Im here at Anthrocon if I spot her I'll try and snap a pic

No. 833008

>>832928
LOL dream on, not from what I have seen lately. A Leopard can't change his spots nor can Heather change her ways

No. 833036

File: 1562445087591.png (6.21 MB, 1242x2208, 74A69577-87BE-49E7-9287-D97750…)

Anon is right, she’s at that furry convention.

So even though she goes on about how spooky and witchy she is, she’s still a furry deep down inside… which is find just — I don’t even know how to word the situation.

No. 833042

>>833036
an oxymororn

No. 833074

>>833036
She's been into furry shit for ages, who cares. Sure her fursona is just spooky now. She'll never get around to participating in it so who cares. This thread always finds the littlest stuff to complain about.

No. 833082

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No. 833135

>>833074
I don't think Anon was complaining. It just Heather goes on about how witchy she is, but doesn't really embrace the furry that she is. It's just a bit odd how she goes on about Urbex and ghost hunting and then randomly one weekend, after being in debt from Killstar, goes to this furry convention.

>>833082
I wouldn't be surprised if she lurks here daily or even hourly, because I highly doubt she got any "hate" on her IG from posting her furry convention stuff.

No. 833136

>>833082
Also, Damien's expression looks like he's in pain; as if he doesn't want to be there. Lol

No. 833178

Haters? What haters? What is there to hate on? I can't say I envy the life of someone who is 29, doesn't have a job, a license, real life friends, can't keep a man, has no personality, is perpetually in debt from buying clothes she can't afford- I could go on.

She's so delusional lol

No. 833291

>>833178
Especially someone who looks like a chunky manfaced inbred, talks like a lisping toddler and acts like an edgy, poorly aging soccer mom.

No. 833635

Her IG videos of her at Anthrocon shows how much she still loves the "cutesy" world. She clearly feels like if she continues to the cute lifestyle she will never get a guy to be attracted to her. I mean, I hate to say it, but eventually whoever dates her AKA Damien will know she's a youtuber and that she can't hide her "toys" forever. Also, you can tell Damien is def not into the furry scene at all lol

No. 834065

Dear fucking christ. I stopped watching her after the first vague-ass drama video. I'm an adult who wants to see 80s toys not hear this BS. I'm happy to know my lying bitch radar still works well. I hope the husband finds someone who deserves his attention!

No. 834068

>>834065
I retract that last bit, but gd is she having a meltdown

No. 834230

>>834065
Her drama videos are just proof that she didn't have anyone in her life to actually talk to, so, as always, she went to the internet so her adoring fans would make her feel better even though she was wrong in so many ways. I'm sure a lot of them feel the same way you do, though. Her personal life never should have come up on a channel dedicated to toy hauls, reviews, etc. I understand a video here and there, but her focus completely shifted and I'm not sure how she still has any fans left.

No. 834489

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Same old story…

No. 834490

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No. 834516

>>834490
She looks like a f*cking librarian now. Lmao!!!!

No. 834518

>>834490

Ok what the hell? Now the song by crash test dummies MMM MMM MMM is playing in my head. That looks worse than what she did have

No. 834519

>>834490
Yeah, the tortoise shell glasses and gray hair is… a look. Edgy goth grandma kei?

No. 834558

>>834490

Is she trying to look like the girl in this photo by going with grey hair? >>818159

No. 834570

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>>834558
Isn't that a girl Ryan follows on IG? Wow
Oh and her cat seems to hate her too lol

No. 834598

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>>834558

That’s the girl I thought of too.

No. 834604

>>834558
That's a reach. I think she just went blonde because the pink was too cutesy for her new "witchy" look but it'll easily be dyed again when she inevitably wants to change it. We haven't seen her reference Ryan since she stalked him at his job like three weeks ago (may seem recent but that eons ago in Heather time). She's putting all her eggs in the Damian basket now.

No. 834637

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>>834604
According to her it’s not blonde.

No. 834735

She also just posted that she's trying to look like Super Hero/Villian Lady Death; saying it's a teenage dream come true or whatever.

Why is it whenever she does anything she has to come out with all these reasons to WHY she did something? Why can't she just be like "yeah, I dyed my hair because I was really inspired by the Lady Death comic cover" instead of all this BS saying it's a teenage dream come true and that she's overly tired of being all pastel and cute?

No. 834918

>>834637
It's bleach blonde with an assload of toner in it. Call it gray/silver all you want, it's the same.

No. 834923

>>834918
Oops that was meant to have a question mark at the end. But agreed on it being the same shit.

No. 835223

File: 1562796258035.png (275.12 KB, 1600x900, heatherspooters.png)

We'll need to be making a new thread soon. Here's maybe the next photo for it? kek

No. 835237

>>835223
Very nice, anon! You truly captured her crazy eyes.

No. 835273

>>835223
Perfect!

No. 835586

Notice how she was quick to post a selfie without her contacts after it was pointed out that she looks like a librarian with that hair and glasses lmao.

No. 835642

>>834918
Yeah…that's how grandma grey is achieved, anon.

No. 835750

>>738758

She already looks too old for her age (despite acting like a kid) so why the fuck make that worse by choosing grey?

No. 835761

I love how she says in her youtube video she did it to help her get a job…and you think dying it silver/grey helps!? First of all, it looks horrible, second, she really is a special type of stupid

No. 835766

File: 1562868267232.png (1.52 MB, 1440x2560, Screenshot_20190711-140056.png)

my special boy? Who fuckin talks like that??? the fact he allows her to speak like that about him shows his intelligence level…..

No. 835842

>>835766

A teen would think this is so romantic.. any adult gets that this is one of those burn out quickly and go up in flames types of 'love' where her insecurity is creating codependency with any guy that'll have her

No. 835981

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No. 835987

She dyed her hair grey because she wants killstar to recognize her. She wants to be sponsored by a goth clothing company instead of getting a real job.

No. 835990

>>835981

Looking unhinged here. She's got those 'I'd murder a mans pets if he ever left me' eyes

No. 836155

>>835766
The way she calls any man she loves/likes 'boy' sounds like she's trying to belittle them. It makes me mad more than it should

No. 836171

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No. 836181

>>836171
Beat me to it. Shes gonna go on live. I think someone called it too, that it wasnt gonna last. Lol

No. 836185

File: 1562908576079.png (2.43 MB, 1242x2208, A4BE16F7-32B7-46A5-8B6B-ACF7B8…)

What she is saying is different than what Damien says.. I think she’s playing victim again.

No. 836187

>>836171
Oh Heather you beautiful mess. She was with him for like 11 days kek. Can't wait for this new milk.

No. 836190

>>836185
How did he not realize before that he was probably just a rebound? she wasn't exactly subtle about being hung up on Ryan.

No. 836198

>>836190
I don't know.. He could have might not known. I'm trying to not be pro-Damien or whatever, but Heather likes to manipulate people. Looking at the texts from these images >>830323
>>830324, it almost seems like she baited him into falling back in love with her or whatever because she couldn't have Ryan so she went with her "number two choice."

No. 836201

File: 1562909487370.jpg (227.68 KB, 1080x1310, 20190712_012709.jpg)

Not sure if anyone noticed this. I was just looking at Damien's recent post and IG and saw this random comment made and seemed different than was a urbex page would say. Heather's possible random throw away account?

No. 836202

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No. 836203

>>836202
If it's followed by heather then it's most likely her's. She follows all of her accounts.

No. 836207

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No. 836208

File: 1562909679851.jpg (314.81 KB, 1080x1729, 20190712_012837.jpg)

>>836207
Last one.

No. 836235

seriously she must be checking this 24/7.

She responds to everything within minutes after something is posted here. Why is she trying to prove stuff to the world? I find it really strange she'd rather do weird stuff like her her hair colored to fit her new look or the perfect outfit for exploring.

Isn't it easier to just to go exploring? Why do you have to look a certain way?(newfaggotry)

No. 836239

>>836235
I've wondered the same – why do you need some flashy outfit if you're exploring old, falling apart places? Don't you want to be in something comfortable and easy to move in and something to protect your arms and legs (pants and maybe a light flannel shirt for the summer)?

No. 836243

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She immediately responded to it again. Posted in her stories as well.

Heather, stop worrying about what people think about you. Stop worrying about how you look. You can fix your life, find real friends, and do anything and everything you want.

No. 836244

Wouldn't be surprised if she's refreshing the web page to this site every minute as she's talking to "someone" yet she claims she has "NO ONE".

Holy shit she's full of lies.

I'm curious though to how Damien found out he was a rebound. Did heather accidentally say something? Or did he find something? Because earlier today Heather posted how much she loves/loved him >>835766

No. 836246

>>836235
>>836243
Whats with the subjects and namefagging?

No. 836249

She started a livestream just to cry, talk about how people ruined her life and take screencaps and "won't let her be happy" cuz she has no friends then cried some more and stopped the stream.

Sounds like playing the victim again..

Though, I wonder if Damien looked at what was on here.

No. 836252

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>>836249
She posted this on Facebook. She’s sure sperging out I feel that she’s probably having a breakdown of some kind

No. 836254

>>836252
It seems like karma is getting her, tbh. She did something that caused Damien to feel truly unloved and feel like a rebound. Also, it seems like she does have a HUGE unhealthy obsession with "haters" and checking this site to see what we're saying. She's letting it control her life to where I bet it's to the point where I bet the "haters" is all she talks about to were people don't want to have a conversation with her.

I wouldn't be surprised if the comments are babying her and telling her that she's loved, etc. etc; or you know, there's an actual friend wanting to reach out to her but she won't allow it.

No. 836255

I wonder if Damien came across this thread, saw the truth, and that’s why she’s suddenly lashing out about screenshots?

No. 836256

>>836255
It would make sense, especially with how much this thread talked about her obsession with Ryan.

No. 836259

She's live again.. And she sounds like a broken record. It's all him and not her.

No. 836260

>>836259
She goes on about how much she's hated by people but people are giving her so much support in her stream.

No. 836264

Bit and pieces from her stream, not in order. Listened as much as I could before she started crying so much that I couldn't understand her anymore:

Heather started obsessing over this girl from this post >>821509 . Holy shit. No one knew about this girl until someone posted about it here, yet I feel like Heather is now bringing it up?? Lol

Mentions how she gets harassed a lot by people and sees on how "the website" (most likely lolcow) that people whine about being blocked by her.

Of course.. She claims she's "drunk." Mentions she's about to be homeless (I doubt it, Adam would still do anything for her I bet). Also mentions that no one cares about her and doesn't have a job; she's a "nobody."

> I haven't made good content in a long time

Yet she complains about her social blade stats about losing subs.. She comes back to this subject a lot and cries over not being able to "save her channel because everyone hates her." Cries over not being able to respond to messages or doing a PO Box Opening video. Doesn't want to do "kid things" because she's "not a fucking kid."

Mentions the screenshots again and saying that if she felt like calling out whoever is doing it, she'll make them feel "so fucking stupid."

Calls Damien a manipulator, yet she "exposed him"; blames it on being pressured by the internet. "Ryan never did this shit to me."

Mentions all she has to do is explain everything to the internet.

Says Damien was reading comments about her hair and Damien read the "ignorant comments" about her hair.. So she has/had him read lolcow comments to her too?

Mentioned she dropped out of therapy. Therapy treated her "horribly." Therapist questioned her about why she cared about what people said on the internet (isn't that a therapist's job???). "I'm not crazy, I don't need to be in therapy!" Mentions that her ex-husband and others mentions that "she's sooo messed up and need to be in therapy." (She's being ignorant about therapy tbh)

Mentions about being bullied as a child for being ugly and how her family hates her.

So much support in her chat, but she mentions "just because you all say you love me, there's someone's who wants to backstab me."

> If you wanted to ruin me, you won. I wouldn't do like that to anyone, I will always love. You will be beneath me. I don't drag people down, I lift people up.

(I paraphrased)



She played victim a lot during this and also did a lot of degrading.

Honestly, all she needs to do is go out into the real world, get an actual job and get a taste of the real world and stop dwelling on being a youtuber or a photographer or a model or whatever. Those things need to be a hobby until it becomes more than a hobby.

No. 836265

>>836264
She just mentioned that she practices Wicca and that everyone calls her out on it… I don't remember her mentioning anything like that. I remember talk on the forums of calling her a "store bought witch", didn't think we were talking about her being a wiccan.

She also said she's not going to call anyone out because they "want attention" and want "to leech off her fame" (or whatever she said). No, she can't call anyone out because she doesn't know who's saying what.

She also started hating on the Urbex community, saying how everyone uses each other.

Drama follows her whatever hobby she's in.

No. 836266

And the cow mentioned lolcow. She's a lurker. She finally mentioned the site by name.

No. 836288

Heather all we do here is just observe. No ones sabotaging your life. You do this yourself. Go get a fulltime job in retail and take public transportation just like other people who don't have a fucking car. Just stfu about being I'm so alone bullshit. You've done no effort whatsoever to get yourself outta the shit hole you put yourself in.

No. 836291

Talk about a drama queen. She loves exaggerating. She says "no more career" but she never had a real job in the first place to lose lol. Spoilt brat needs a good kick up the butt. She's probably alienated herself from her "family" and they've had enough of her childish behaviour. She needs a reality check. Her life isn't exactly a pile of rubble, she should go to a third world country and see for herself what it's like to live in poverty, they don't behave like she does. She's brought all this crap on herself and I have zero sympathy for her. If she keeps this up folks will lose patience with her, only those with a similar attitude will stick around. I haven't noticed many of her subscribers on her youtube channel unsubscribe so far however I am doubtful most of them will bother to watch the videos she's posting as the content is uninspired and completely different to what they were originally led to believe she'd be posting. She's desperate to find another man to sponge off of…..CRINGE!!! I'm just wondering when she's going to sell off her toy collection???

No. 836303

She says someone messaged her bf stating that she would sleep with guys for car rides to go urbexing. She also states guys in the urbex community look at her in a scandalous way. Well, when you post pics of yourself in a bra or cleavage shots, what did you expect? Did you expect guys to look at you and say "man, shes a great explorer"?? Or aall the time's you posted you needed a bf? A spooky bf? Yeah,you can't seriously be shocked by all this. You wanted attention from men, you got it.

No. 836329

>>836303

She shows all the signs that she will spend her life hopping from one guy to the next getting too attached and desperately looking for attention to fill a void in her. She has the emotional maturity of a boy crazy 13 year old. I won't armchair diagnose but it's obvious what she's dealing with

No. 836337

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Our little friend Damian thinks our lives are shit and that we're "shit spittin bitch ass sparkle fucks."

No. 836339

>>836303
I’m trolling this site 24/7 but I needed to speak up on this sexist shit. Heather can wear whatever the fuck she wants and should still get respect from her male peers in the urbex community. Saying she should expect to be viewed in a ‘scandalous way’ and no one will take her seriously as an explorer because she just recently started showing the SMALLEST amount of cleavage and is dressing how she wants is disgusting, archaic and obviously sexist. . Shame on you.

No. 836340

>>836337
That was the weirdest rant. You know he’s loving the attention.

No. 836348

>>836339
Anon never said no one will take her seriously. And she should expect that men will look at her sexually when she wears sexy clothes. Sorry, but hetero men will sexualize a woman in sweatpants, so of course they're going to sexualize a woman in lacy bralettes with cleavage showing. You can't fight biology no matter how """sexist""" you find it. Heather can, in fact, wear whatever she wants, however she (or you or anyone else) can't control how other people view her because of it. Get out of here with your sjw garbage trying to change other people's thoughts, jfc. And sage your irrelevant screeching.

No. 836359

>>836265

lol, she doesn't get that she's the common denominator for all the shit she "goes through." No one here gives a shit about the urban exploring community, it was just there and then she probably met someone who gets all these views from it, just copied the idea and then brought all this drama into it. If you're going to get into a hobby, then do it because you want to. Don't do it to get views or a boyfriend and then do all this shit (like changing your image) just to get attention.

Also, no one gives a fuck about Damien, he's just the rebound dude that people here said he would be, kek.

No. 836372

>>836337
says the grown man who spills his baby bullshit drama of his pathetic love life he has with Heather. Why does he write like a teen girl in HS.

No. 836375

>>836337
Damian aka REBOUND, don't be so butthurt you'll never be as good in Heather's eyes as Ryan was. She even said many times in her late night lives he's the perfect man for her. Kek.

No. 836449

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She made an “apology”Facebook post.

No. 836453

>>836449
if thats true, why is she so upset over a tool bag? Holy fuck man, just stop dating these losers. Get yourself together and not depend on a man for happiness, especially this cum dumpster. Yeah, she's got her own issues but this guy? Come on, i can find you a convicted felon that would treat you better then this piece of shit.

God help the world if he gets pregnant by this idiot.

No. 836457

>>836339

You clearly live in la la land. Get your head out from your mothers tits and open your eyes little bird. Do you look at a victoria secrets model and say "she's going places, she'll be an astronaut one day" if it walks, talks, has 3 holes, a guy is interested, plain and simple. I never said people wouldn't respect her, but if you post a little cleavage or yourself in a bra, people will talk, fuckin simple, especially paranormal loser guys. You have a lot of awakening to do

No. 836458

>>836449

Sorry about how I acted tonight.. but my own actions were completely caused by someone else 'lists things other person did' so as you can see I am a victim and am not actually sorry

No. 836464

>>836339

It's the mixture of cleavage shots and then the massive need that she has for male attention, people get weirded out by bunny boiler women all the time. They give off bad vibes

God knows why their post hit such a nerve with you but you are clearly projecting your own issues here

No. 836490

>>836457
congrats this is one of the cringiest posts i’ve ever read

No. 836497

>>836458

Regardless what is said on here, its your page, you do what you want. But for the love of god, get a job, get your act together,nobody wants to see you fail, just do it. You'll feel so much better. And stop dealing with cum dumpster hipster.

No. 836501

>>836490

Reality is cringy. Get used to it.

No. 836503

>>836501
You sound like Heather lmao.

No. 836507

>>836458
If this is the cow, no you aren’t the victim. You helped cause this break up to happen. You willingly allowed you and Rebound to get back together after you spoke about “how bad he was before.”

This feels like a whole deja vu moment with the last time Heather and Rebound broke up. Now she’s going to start dwelling on the idea of Ryan instead of , you know, becoming an actual adult and get a job and take public transport.

No. 836513

>>836507
That's not Heather, that anon was just summarizing Heather's bunk Facebook apology.

No. 836517

>>836513
Oops my bad but still my comment still stands. She isn't no victim and I highly doubt she's ever been a victim unless shows some solid proof. But from what I've seen posted here and coming from her mouth, it's always the man's fault and there's always something HUGE wrong with him and she's perfectly "fine".

No. 836520

>>836497
>>836507

I was making fun of her apology

No. 836525

>>836517

Agreed, I was pointing out how she has no problem blaming others for how she acts. If drama follows you everywhere you go you usually have to accept it's you attracting it with your own actions

No. 836569

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No. 836574

Heather likes the IDEA of being successful more than what it takes to actually BE successful. Being an adult is hard work. Much of the time, it's choosing what is right over what is comfortable. That's how you get to where you want to be. You don't get there by staying married and allowing your husband to pay all of your bills while you have boyfriends on the side. You don't get there by posting about all of your drama on the internet then complaining when people talk about it. You don't get there by spending money on new clothes and hair salons. You don't get there by posting a lot of inspirational quotes. You have to do a lot of things that aren't always fun. Heather romanticizes being successful and doesn't realize the steps to actually get there. It starts with the basics… Get a real job, get a bank account, move out, learn how to drive, etc. THEN, once you have your shit together, if you still want to pursue a passion like exploring, do that in your spare time. And when you do it, only post high quality content, not a constant stream of drama from your personal life. Unfortunately, until she realizes this, I think she'll stay in this loop and never really get anywhere.

No. 836575

>>836569

Aww, really captures daimans likeness. Now just need to add a pile of shit next to it and it will be perfect

No. 836596

>>836375

Exactly. Ryan's dick pounded her out better then yours Damian. You have to use some movement there and not sleep in it. Typical hot topic boy.

No. 836597

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No. 836613

Maybe she’ll realize that this urbex shit is full of losers like Damien and give up the whole spooky act. Because it’s obvious she only got into it for male attention.

No. 836615

New thread here >>836614

No. 837068

File: 1562992908958.jpeg (39.58 KB, 640x244, F23244FA-91D6-4F0C-8905-EA5B6A…)

Trying hard to get noticed by Killstar.

No. 837069

posted in old thread my bad^



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