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The fourth thread for one of the absolute worst YouTube artists Baylee Jae. She's come under increased criticism over the past few months for her inability to take critique, general narcissism, excessive spending and hoarding of children's toys and art supplies, and laziness. She also draws like a 12 year old and has her very own instructional "How to Draw" book that was released November 2017. https://www.youtube.com/user/BayleeCreationshttps://www.youtube.com/user/BumbleBayleehttps://twitter.com/Baylee_Jaehttps://www.instagram.com/baylee_jae/http://www.bayleejae.com
Previous Baylee Jae thread:https://lite.lolcow.farm/snow/res/422561.html
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She has issues.
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re all the fuss on her 'comments' video… here's one of the best comments in that thread. it's true. she goes 'please critique me, I know I'm not great' and yet when people point out that plum horse & its rider was completely borked, she goes 'but I did it from reference!'
she could do a lot worse than listen to the people suggesting she loosen up, try new subject matter, try ditching the fucking outlines once in a while, etc. will be interesting to see if she acknowledges any of this stuff, let alone acts on it.
sage for rambling
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What helpful art advice. If you can control the paint, you have the right brush… she uses the wrong brushes for watercolors. They always come out super splotchy. This was screenshotted from her book preview
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You can now find people with Varg pics on Baylee Jae's comments… damn I didn't think Varg would descend to this low level of an audience, but it's not that surprising.
Sage for #000000 meal sperging
To anyone who is new to the thread, it's against the rules to tell the cow they have a thread. I understand we have some new people, which is great, but pls respect the rules otherwise we'll be swamped with angry 13 year olds. >>440423
Agreed, the comment could have been written better, but I'm glad that peopel are at least saying something and are not kissing her ass.
Even if she doesn't listen, making well structured criticism will remove some of her weapons when it comes to bitching about people just hating on her.
She doesn't seem to delete all the critiques. As much as I liked our loyal knight Pants of Shit, it was pretty obvious he was just there to watch the world burn and that makes for a very clear target for blocks.
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As someone who edits videos quite often, I can assure you that her videos don't take that long to edit..Maybe 3 hours max, if you're feeling lazy. There's not complicated lighting fixing, or special effects lol. Literally just re-watching, cutting, adding voice over, and music. BAM
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Rolling my eyes to the fullest
is art school material I am sure glad I didn't go to art school
Well if there's any sign of an influx newfags rolling in to whiteknight remember to just report it to the mods
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I can't take any of these guys seriously with their spelling and the points they make. The only thing people are jealous of is having the choice of chilling all day while making crappy art and making money off it. I have so much more to say, but don't wanna be too lengthy. Sorry for the mini rant.
tbh I feel like she did okay with this challenge. Sure, it's cartoony and I couldn't listen to the voiceover, so she could still be a bitch about some things… But I feel like the art is okay. Not perfectly blended, but it's okay.
I'm cautiously optimistic. Anyone?
thank you anon!
For fuck's sake, I'll have to agree with Holly as much as it irks me. STOP MAKING CHALLENGES THAT AREN'T CHALLENGING! I know coloring with a chisel tip is not as fluid as the brush tip, but dontcha think CHALLENGE is a bit of a strong word for that?
That one just screams "I am so unable to do any fart out of my comfort zone that I find drawing with the other end of my Copic marker to be an actual legit challenge".
Sorry for sperging but the whole stupid art challenge thing drives me up the wall
If a kvlt bm fan can't appreciate 6 pure progenies they aren't trve kvlt
Seriously now, Varg has always been one of the closest to the mainstream eye. It would be silly to expect his fanbase to be an elite team.
But alas, let me refrain from derailing the thread even further.
Yeah she’s so up her own arse for someone who’s art is so shit, she’s literally only got her following from tagging along with Baylee and jellie - guess jellie wasn’t a big enough target for her any more lol
I watch jellies and baylees streams and Krissu used to be a chat host on jellies and she was always talking over people and talking big about herself, she always gave me a wrong feeling to her
I don't know about Twitch, but her Youtube only has about 2k subs. Imagine being too mediocre even for the mediocre Youtuber standard. She's really cringy.
I wondered if other people saw her as so much of a kiss ass as I saw her.
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The mouth is kind of reminds me of adventure time.
maybe you should sage your own posts before you decide to backseat mod>>441031
This isn't the best and it's just another girl bust but I'm glad the facial expression is something different than stoically staring into space.
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The shading and placement of the folds of her scarf(?) makes me feel better about how I draw clothes.
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She continues to colour dark skinned characters with borderline noir black and then proceeds to draw lighter skins using muddish almost (digitally shes used legit) grey colours. Is it that hard for her to use the BILLION other copics she has and actually learn something…>>441594
For the felt she couldnt even go around the dome with an exacto blade for a perfect cut but freehands it with bulky scissors making it jagged and probably super inconsistent around the border
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The forced quirk is annoying…
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I always hate when she does her close ups and dumb faces smh
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You know, you could say the same thing about Baylee using her platform to make herself feel better with the comments from her 12 year old fans lol
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kind of splotchy
The cat bothers me.
Just the shitty turquoise and how the addition completely ruined the piece
I’m curious as to who it was tbh but then again I wouldn’t blame them for getting annoyed when they see how much “work” Baylee does everyday yet doesn’t finish an oil painting for months (but then again they may be a milky artist too)
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She believes she’s a superstar lmao…
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Please kids. Do not draw noses like Baylee where they look smudged up
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Acting like she’s an anatomy expert in her books, but draws sausage fingers on a regular bases.
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Anatomy expert….. not.
I bet she ripped that idea straight from another person/book just so she can appear to know what's she's talking about.>>443588
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THE FREAKING NOSE!!! Why is she so against drawing noses that don't look like potatoes!
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>Posting OP pic to /ic/ and trying to get people to sperg on there
what on earth were you thinking?
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The reference? Anyone want to overlay them & see if it’s traced? I’m not on my laptop to do it
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She's holding it at an angle in the video, but I tried to stretch it out and it didn't match up. I didn't account for the warp of the paper, but I don't think it's traced, just closely copied.
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I am at a loss for words.
For her audience's age range I really believe this is inappropriate. I don't think parents are gonna like it if their children watch those kinds of videos, I know when I was little my parents got angry at me just seeing anime characters kiss.
She needs to choose which audience she wants to cater to:
The 99% majority that are children starting out and don't know what good art is yet
Or the 1% that are adults who still don't know what good art is yet/asskiss Baylee because of her sub count
Can't have it both ways.
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I’m sure this is the reaction she wants. Baylee has always been a huge TROLL
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Meanwhile, Grinch is like…..
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People are nasty lol
Do her art videos show up on the kid's youtube app?
Imagine some kid typing the Grinch and seeing this. It's like the Spiderman and Elsa stuff that happened. I hope this doesn't become a series just because she needs them views.
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So she…practices drawing bulges a lot? That's what I got out of that reply.
Classy Baylee, very classy.
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Why would people be willing to spend money on this!? I can’t….
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He just looks like a man with green paint. Where’s the fur texture. Put hulks face on him and it’d be more accurate lol. I can’t with this video. This was totally BayBait.
Agreed. Even with reference, it also looks so stiff and just unnatural.
That christmas tree looks flat too lol.
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I'm disturbed by these comments
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Some long tiddies he got there.
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I tired to make sense of her anatomy but it got worse and i'm confused.
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I'm laughing this looks so much like a wojak image
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I honestly like this drawing a lot. I wish she would go for this rather than her normal style.
(I'm new so sorry if i'm doing this wrong)
It's better than her normal stuff but it still seems very off to me. too off for me to like it, i think the mouth is too small, as is the space from the bottom of the nose to chin when compared from the nose to the brows.
That’s actually not bad at all, it just looks like the start of a painting and not the final product. If you need to point out something dreadful, at least pick the hair. It would have looked so much better if she worked in chunks instead of trying to shade single strands, and the colour used is just wrong and makes it look dirty.
One thing that bothers in a lot of artists is that they pretty much forget to add highlights, they focus on shadows so much and then they add a couple dots of light here and there on the eyes or nose.
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More stupid faces. She’s becoming a cartoon character
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ah yes. men who go round spitting vile "I hate all women" poison and then being bewildered as to why women don't want to sleep with them
But anyway this whole advent thing has clearly made Baylee lose it. it's really unsavoury. And for the people who are saying well at least it's something different - no it's not. it's still a poorly outlined badly composed simplistic bad copy of a reference coloured in with markers showing no understanding of lighting or form
Baylee dear lord you're doing it again. Can you PLEASE pick a fucking audience and stick with it?? I don't think parents are going to like it when their kids look up the word pedo and find unsavory results. As adults we understand these concepts as jokes and good fun – children do not.
I'm really starting to strongly dislike this woman.
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somebody actually bought the derp horse wtf
>>445292>Holly Brown trying to suck Baylee's metaphorical noodle
I love when flakes collide.
I don't understand why you would do a sitdown video with just your face on an art channel, why not film yourself doodling or something like >>445297
said? It's clear that her channel is more about her
than it is about art.
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To enter her giveaway, people have to answer if they’d smash or pass…. I can’t.
This is fucking hilarious.
The smooth Christmas music paired with that drawing. Superb.
I don't know if you guys just want a reason to hate her but a lot of you are sounding like annoying moms. She could have added +18 disclaimer, and yes, her channel is mostly child related, but she has done stuff like this in the past so if you are so worried about what your kid watches, keep an eye on it. You shouldn't trust a stranger on the internet if you're concerned about what your child is watching, you don't know them nor their intentions even if they do come across as kids entertainment.
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I'm watching an IHE video and he called the cover of this knock off Prince of Egypt movie "the worst thing about the movie" which I find hilarious because it looks like art Lazee Jae would make
But her channel is not the equivalent to a toy shop. She attracts children because she's a weird womanchild with a low art level, but the fact that she made a separate channels for the toys and for kid's art shows she considers her channel somewhere around pre-teen level.
It's like expecting some comic book guy to be child friendly because his interests match the interests of kids.>>445794
She has done things like this in the past, like the penisland that was her bachelorette party, so if parents are concerned about a safe space she should already be out their lists. You would be right to think that if she did this on Doodle Domain.
How is her bachelorette party related to her art channel? I wouldn't expect her vlog channel to be child friendly since it's about her personal life and she's an adult after all, but that's a different story.
Ultimately she can do what she wants, and no, I doubt anyone will be traumatized by some mildly sexual content, but it's just cringeworthy to me.
I'm not saying this to defend her personally, she can eat my nards. It's about how people think others have an obligation to cater to their children.
I understand everyone's concerns about her channel clearly attracting children, but I don't think it's fair to push the obligation to always be kid friendly on someone who hasn't made it very explicit their intent is to be a G rated channel (like she did on Doodle Domain). It's not because someone messes with toys and child related paraphernalia that you should trust them, in fact, people will use that to attract your kids with malicious intent sometimes. It's important to keep an eye on things instead of blindly trusting some stranger's judgment.
You also have channels like Ashens who will do reviews of childish things in a very non-child-friendly way, so no, using things kids are generally interested in does not automatically make you a kid's channel.
Do I think she should considered her audience further? Yeah, she should. But I wouldnt put her on a cross for it either.>>445835
It's not slang, PG means what it means.
If she wants to post whatever the heck that grinch thing was then she is more than welcome but when videos are being demonized* and youtube are cracking down on using children's character in a not so friendly manner, would this not concern her as it is some of her income? She clearly knows the age of her audience but took the risk anyway,
I don't know if it goes that far into her representing herself and a publisher who is trying to sell copies of her 'kid friendly' how to art book.
She went from frozen colouring pages to that grinch thing, a bit of a jump in content for views?
As far as I'm aware only single videos get demonetized, so it wouldn't be much of a big deal for her to have one single video in her advent thing demonetized.
There is a small possibility of it affecting her representation, but so far I don't think it's a big enough deal, most people's responses seemed to be very mild.
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Why is the chin so tiny
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Time for you daily dose of cat on the artwork
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>>445920>"i don't care about views! just kidding!!">"don't go around asking people their life stories!">sniffing stuff>"personality is huge, you want people to watch you for you, not your art/whatever">weird kermit voice>googles herself with the "okay google" thing and gets the trannie porn actress (while children are watching)>weird noises and voices>makes fun of youtube thumbnail faces, when hers are gross>cats interrupt >"it's not a baylee video w/out a cat appearance" >weird hiccup>kikichu (cwc vibes oh my god)>"thicc boy">GODDAMN KERMIT VOICE LMAO>gets timbits (canadian munchkins) and lets poor kiki sniff at them>weird noises>mods are deleting harmless questions>this pokemon is a girl pokemon!>hiccups>singing
the sketch though, ew.
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this one is the real troll, lmao>>445974
she's only inking it as of now, not coloring it.
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…because all her characters look exactly the same
She got really snappy about "people trying to make everyone be family friendly" lmao
Her mods are so obnoxious.
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wtf are up with your mods, baylee?
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she's gonna wear the sketchbook slam like a fucking badge for the rest of her days…
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Jesus christ, what is this shit?? I've seen literal 15 year olds produce work that is far superior. Could she at least have tried to do something decent, this is one of the worst pieces I have ever seen her do, there is no contrast or movement in any way
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Picture very much related
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Why even try if her brainless fanbase would eat it all up anyway? She doesn't want to learn, she doesn't want to improve. She's doomed to forever be stuck in a phase most of the people who study art pass in their first year of learning. Compare her, Lemia's or Holly's stuff to anything on artstation front page and it would be apparent how far behind all of them are. It's truly pathetic.
Not to OT but holly probably thinks she’s already so much better than the people on artstation. She always compares herself to professionals and sacred monsters of the industry usually talking them a bit down (ie Jake Parker’s work being “simpler” than hers).
At least baylee knows she’s not the best and always says she doesn’t draw much. Having an art related channel that’s quite weird and in some ways stupid, but at least she kind of knows her place art-wise
>>446494>Does she, nor Holly or their ilk even aspire to even reach that level?
Every artist should strive to improve, not only for the sake of competing with others for a job, on a personal level too.
> to remain that way til their own audience outgrows them.
Which is exactly what i said. She's a wacky art-blogger for life.
I don't actually follow her, but does she ever
sketch from real life? She draws the same shit over and over again with no improvements because she simply lacks the insight. Every art teacher I've had stresses how important drawing from real life is, it teaches you so much.
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I didn't realise it was possible, but her facial proportions are worse than the type I drew when I was 13
She's so stuck in her ways.
It's always sketch, ink, "color", she just filled in areas with tone where they are supposed to be. She had some really cool tones but she made this boring, stiff shit.
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I genuinely thought this was going to be a troll review
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Her Twitter bio has her age at 22.
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>>447835>talks/complains about broken furnace>talks about her sore throat from screaming too much during boring stream>Says that improvement meme will take too long and will make her lazy ass do it near the new years since crafty advent is taking too "much time">complains about furnace some more
Literally another boring vlog where nothing happened. Like legit nothing happened and she thought it was worth filming
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I don't get this "arty advent" thing. Isn't she doing everything she usually does, but with different intro? It's not even christmas or winter themed.
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Now we all know that Baylee will never use this since she never actually goes outside to draw
The way she almost keeps saying "Jaylee Bae" every single time is hilarious.
I think this gives you a pretty good idea of who her fans are.
A big part of these threads has been people reaching for a reason to be upset or repeating themselves a lot lately.
Someone please tell me this is a troll.
Her voice is so lazy and it just drolls on and on omg>Druwijazza
Can she not pronounce shit right???
Oml I can't listen to this she is so incredibly monotone and there's no emotion whatsoever in her voice
Is she drunk??? She slurs her words SO much! Everything is jumbled together and it just ugh
She sounds so bored with life and just bored with existing in general
but… she's perfectly content with her shit style. There are successful
artists who literally draw stick figure comics and have no plans of improving beyond that, and make a living out of it. If she's happy drawing simplistic amateur doodles, I don't see why anyone should be mad at her for it. And no.. the people you compared her to on artstation are industry elites, they're not just "people who like art and try hard to be better". It's not a fair comparison at all.
Anon was talking about the girl in the review, not Baylee.>>448379
Agree with it not being a fair comparison, but I think the issue is that the people at XKCD or Cyanide and Happiness don't try to teach people how to draw. Comics are a bad example because the art is only a tool to relay a narrative or punchline. Baylee is an illustrator (sort of), has published a book on how to draw, but doesn't take any of her own advice which makes it seem very disingenuous. If you can't learn anything yourself, you have no place to claim any authority.
I liked this, it's simple but decently done. Definitely the best of her recent videos I'd say, she even gave some useful info for beginners like explaining onionskin and mentioning the 12 principles.
Holly can take note kek
I'm…really surprised? This is actually pretty good and I actually like it much more than her illustrations!
Wow. Good job Baylee, why don't you do this all the time? Just little simple animations.
Instead of teaching illustration, which is pretty much her weakest point, why doesn't she think more about giving tips about animations? I feel that would be more successful – especially seeing as she actually learned and worked in this field.
I misread >>448555
and thought it was saying that Baylee isn’t chubby
If you do the math, yeah, she does, at least right now.
Let's look at this like a real job.
Most "real jobs" (which, by the way anything you get paid for is a real job but ok) you work 8 hours a day/5 days a week for 40 hours a week.
She's uploading one video every single day until Christmas, including weekends. That's 24, 25 videos, depending on if she uploads ON Christmas or not.
Lets calculate how long a "quality" video should take.
She has to come up with the concept - 1 hour or so of brainstorming, seems reasonable to me.
She has to execute the concept - This depends on the concept. Wrapping paper, probably only took a few hours, but any drawings probably take 10+, we know she's a slow artist. Lets say an average of 5-6 hours.
She has to edit the concept - 2 hours - She'll need time to transfer all the files, set up the project, record voiceover, cut everything together (which requires watching all previous footage), time for previews to load so she can watch it back, color grading, editing audio, etc.
Post Production - she has to create social media thumbnails, upload, do tags and SEO, descriptions, etc. She also has to take photos and scan in the finished product, as well as adjust that in photoshop, and for certain things upload to redbubble & the like. Maybe 1 hour.
That's 8-9 hours per video, on average. Some videos will likely take much longer (ones where she's doing more detailed drawings), and others will take less (such as wrapping paper). Remember, she's also uploading on weekends. So 24 videos x 8-9 = 192 - 216 hours. Average out to like, 204 hours.
204 hours in 3 weeks. A full time job, you'd work 40x3, 160 hours in 3 weeks.
Oh but she should have prefilmed! Some of it was prefilmed! Sure, but she's also in the previous weeks been working on her regular videos, which according to this thread should be a higher standard and should take longer. And then you add in all the other stuff she has to do for her job - things you see, like the streams, which she earns income and revenue from, and things you don't see, like working with brands, replying to emails, etc.
Add in that it's the holiday season, and she's probably trying to spend time with family, get presents, has events like holiday parties and the like…
Yeah, I don't think there's anything about the Arty Advent that can be called lazy. I just can't understand this complaint - this is a lot of work, regardless of how you feel about it.
Looking at these videos, they really don't take that long to film and edit. Just speaking from experience. You know, she had all that time to prepare for this event and this is the kind of shit she posts…this is why people are calling her lazy. Her ideas are lazy as well. If she does as much work as the animation one or a full piece drawing, then sure, we can tolerate that because that indeed does take awhile to create and has to put some thought into it (even though the illustrations are still dead-like). But stamping stuff on paper, showing off a bag that kids can't afford, ranting, poking holes into a cup, and etc just calls off as " I have run out of ideas, I'm lazy, and i could've prepared this better, but I didn't"
Anon is not really white knighting. It's relevant having those sorts of different views when you guys start going overboard with the unfounded criticism.
Not that I think you're completely wrong in calling her advent lazy for reasons this other anon >>449314
pointed out, but saying her job is not a real job is pretty unfair. She might not put in the hours into improving her art much, but that doesn't mean creating videos is a completely mindless task which takes no time. Every job is easy when you're not the one doing it and oversimplify everything that goes into doing said job. In fact, I might be wrong, but I wouldn't be surprised if this was the reason anon made their comment rather than wanting to defend Baylee personally.
>>449286>implying it took her anywhere near 9 hours to produce 90% of her arty advent videos
Please leave lmao, have you ever shot and edited a video or are you just pulling this estimate out of your ass? That pusheen shit took like 5 minutes to think of and maybe an hour at most to shoot since she has her camera set up permanently. Editing and recording voiceover might be 2-4 hours, but except for her animation video which she said took her 6 hours, none of her arty advents add up to 6 hours of filming time. Most content creators have lists with video ideas so I doubt she even has to spend a lot of time thinking of the subjects.
I for one am not someone who thinks that making YouTube videos isn't "a real job" because that's bs, but I highly doubt she works more than regular fulltime hours for all of her 3 channels combined.
>>449442>have you ever shot and edited a video or are you just pulling this out of your ass?
I have and anon is not that far off. We have to consider she is well used to making videos so she might be faster at getting takes/voiceover right, but sometimes people don't seem to have the right idea of how long video making takes because everything is so digested when it reaches the public. Not only that, video making is not the whole job. There's social media managing which is REALLY underestimated because people have that habit of thinking professionally managing social media is comparable to them fucking around on Instagram whenever they please.
Even the craft project alone, without filming would probably take her over an hour.>>449442>since she has her camera set up permanently
The whole video was not shot in that single overhead camera angle.
Nobody here is trying to defend her personally, you're just reaching to try and talk more shit about her and getting defensive when people correct you. Talk all the shit you want as long as it's right, this might be a website dedicated to milk but it doesn't mean people are going to go along with everything you say.
Don't take me wrong, I don't think she makes a lot of quality content either. That's why I rarely watch her anymore.
Even if I don't think she is lazy on the video workload and other activities that come along, she seems either lazy or to have very low ambition when it comes to her concepts. I'm leaning towards the later one because she seems satisfied with achieving very little when it comes to art, and her taste overall seems very regular and basic.
Professionally managing social media? Really anon?
She just posts whatever she wants on her accounts. EVEN THEN, if her accounts weren't extremely unprofessional making a post every other day to keep up your image is not hard or time consuming in the least.
>>449783>making a post every other day to keep up your image is not hard or time consuming in the least.
Sounds like the type of people mentioned who think managing social media is the same as them posting on Instagram for funsies.
Why do agencies bother hiring people just to manage social media if "making a post every other day is not hard or time consuming"?
I'm not here to say wether Baylee does the job right or not, it's about people seemingly not understanding the nature of the job. It's very common for people who do certain things as hobbies to imagine the professional counterpart of said hobby is exactly the same thing.
She's meant to be pressing her face to the glass, so at least there's sort of an excuse this time.>>449990
I don't think the punchline (if you can call it that) is funny, but I'll take it.
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Is baylee slimming herself down in these thumbnails? Idk but she's definitely not as round-faced in them.
If you check out a screencap of her, you can totally see a difference. >>448597
I thought maybe it was to make room for text, but that's not it bc there's either not enough words for it to make sense or no words at all.
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I've read this comic about 5 times now trying to find the joke.
I don't…get it?
Is she trying to poke fun at the fact that she orders a ton of shit? I just…
Where's the funny?
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You alright there peach??
Another boring vlog.
do you think that at some point she'll stop about the wedding stuff? like I'm really curious, since I don't like marriage and don't plan to ever do it so I have no clue if being so "obsessed" with it is a common thing
her perspective on the arty coughcraftycough advent is interesting, but she'd probably would have no issues if she planned it better or something? I get surprised when people don't think committing to a month-long daily thing is not gonna stretch their time and resources. it's not like doing a thing like that gives you more time in a day
She said she was going to draw all three but couldn't.
That's what planning and light sketching is forQQQQ
they saw the pic, lost their shit and fired the person. (idk but one can wish).
that's not event a crafty advent video, it's FILLER. clickbaity and grossly inappropriate
her fucking face in the thumbnail is triggering
yeah, it's the fucking arrogance. Like, she's so good that she gets begged to do commissions aaaall the tiiiiime, you guuuuys, omg, it's such a pain, everyone in the world is so desperate to pay me for my "art"
she can feck off
>>451626>"I worked so hard on this one.">Draws ugly, generic anime girl in a generic pose with short and stubby fingers.
To be fair, a lot of the packaging I've seen on markers (especially for manga sets) are pretty badly drawn imo. Very generic and very wonky.
Am I a horrible person for being glad that Baylee didn't get any of her money? That artwork is not $2,000 quality. I wouldn't even price it at $25 in all honestly.
I wonder if they saw the artwork, regretted offering her that much money and ran for it. I guess they might have thought since she had so many subscribers, she was a good artist – haha no.
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It's sad that the standards for her channel are so low that any
art is considered a positive.>>452207
Imo it's made it clear that her channel is only about entertainment that may or may not be art related.
This is the last comment I write about Baylee and I will unsubscribe to all her channel.
Idk why she always bothered me. Her art is very medicore and how she did voice over was very weird. Her vlog is mildly interesting. Like watching colorful paint dry.
I keep watchinkg her but now I need to stop. Her art is bad, everything is stiff and her composition and ideas are getting worse and worse. She keeps talking about how hard she worked on it instead of drawing process, her visions and stuff. Almost like we are watching her to give her praise rather than being inspired for it. It's frustrating to watch video and babysit her, is it art channel or watching baby baylee do shit and clap no matter what?
Her colors are boring, Can I please get different than pink and teal?
Her 'anatomy' is laughable. It is a headache to see her 'sketch', which is just her drawing weird doll like glob and bunch of erasing. She hides her weak points like babies do and mask it with excuses. Like how many time she does not draw hands or make weird choices?? Just own up to it and keep practicing BEFORE making final sketch. Just draw it somewhere else several times and make final drawing!
She wants to draw pretty girls like other artists but the reason why they can get away with it is because they draw PRETTy girls, not some Cabbage Patch Kids with droopy dress.
She keeps taking weird projects to make her life so hectic. If you are getting married, don't take sketch book slam or do arty advent RIGHT after the marriage. You are a adult, you need to take care of your own schedule. Don't take it and make your life a mess. IF you want to do that then don't come to your channel whinning about it and make all your fans pat you on the back and attack anyone who have constructive criticisms. AND do it right, just because your were so 'busy' you can do sloppy job on it.
I don't believe for a second the art channel is going to the main focus for now on. She will keep making up excuses and big projects JUST to avoid it.
It was fun to read all through the like minded people. and get some frustration off. I never wrote negative comment on her channel because there are so many kids and I do not want to make toxic comments. But now I'm done with her, I do not want to see any more fish eye doll faces with mitten hands drawn with whiny commentary(which is 'better' than weird craft videos). Thank you lolcow to give me some place to vent.
>>452662>She keeps talking about how hard she worked on it instead of drawing process, her visions and stuff
that’s one thing that really bothered me with Baylee, she spends so little time explaining what led her to make decisions so you can only assume it’s because it “looks pretty”.
It feels like a child explaining to their parents how they made a cake
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It's meant to be a porg from the Last Jedi. She took something super cute and made it lame cos she can't do art
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i found this photo rather ironic
>>458297>That profile photo
so ~qUIrKy xD~
She looks nice though, even if it's a filter.
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Here's to a new year of hoping Baylee does the right thing, which is unlikely, but yeah.
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it looks more magenta here than pink kek
ngl, I really like it. She did a decent job.
Guess she has to redraw her icon now. What a shame \s
Watching her talk about hair when she has absolutely NO IDEA what she is talking about is giving me a headache.
Pink has always been the easiest colour to get for me. It stains like a bitch and is incredibly hard to get out. It's not failing because of the dye, it's failing because you started on dirty blonde hair with multiple colours in it. There's absolutely no way in hell she could have achieved anything but a bright pink with her starting colour.
Retarded rant over, I just hate how she's acting like she knows what she's doing because she dyed her hair one colour several years ago.
I've never dyed my hair before but it's obvious that her hair was too dark to get a soft pink, and all the strands that didn't take are the darkest ones.
I think the magenta color looks much better on her than pastel pink yould have, so I guess it's fine?
Because she's been coloring her hair for 2 YEARS, so she knows more than a trained hair dresser lol.
I'm sorry her smug attitude when it comes to hair is annoying.
Somehow the fact that she lays down a flat color and then just paints over it is so infuriating lmao, it's not even like she's doing a glaze. Just smushing paint into itself.
Gouache is an awesome medium and you can achieve so many amazing effects with it, why doesn't she look up painting advice if she's trying to learn? She's so stuck in her ways, it's even sadder that this is from 2016 but she might as well have painted it yesterday.
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When James Gurney is clumped between these types of books
>>465784>The Chris Hart book
At least they have one of his books from before he was doing anime, eugh
that book was my bible when I was like ten
Also just to estimate in case anyone's curious (in USD):
>Mainboard - 275-300>Graphics Card - around 800>Power supply - 100>Processor - 1000>64 GB DDR4 RAM - 750-800>512 GB SSD - 175>6TB internal storage - 150>Water cooling system - 85>Case/Build cost - 150 (being conservative here)
It's a rougly $3,5k build. In CAD, 4253.
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Jesus, where is that girl's chin?!
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Oh no no no no.
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Oh boy, I'm sure the excuse for this shit will be fOReShOrTeNInG!
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I don’t like that she started coloring in her brows pink too. It looks harsh and clowny. Her regular brows were just fine with the pink hair.
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What’s up with the dark patch at the beginning of her brows? Why is there no hair after the patch?
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On one of my comments on her videos, someone cowtipped as a reply??
((im cool with my youtube identity being here since I dont plan to use that account ever.))
She looks like a clown, kek. These types of looks only work on people who know their makeup and sense of style. >>467868
I miss her old eyebrows as well. It's less harsh and makes her look less bitchy
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I feel like her pink eyebrows makes it sooo much more clownish. If you google hot pink hair, almost 100 percent of people have natural colored brows with the pink hair and it looks so much better. Did Baylee color her brows pink or is she filling them in? Don’t think you can color micro bladed brows???
She’s filling them with a lip pencil. I see nothing wrong with it, it’s personal preference. I do think it looked more flattering with her “real” microbladed brows, as they were already pretty light; and I agree that overall the natural brows looks better with pink (the only way you fill in brows of a different colour is to make’em look more natural, but it’s pink…) but I don’t really like when topics about artists derail on appearances.
The doodle domain thing is good material. Like, let’s discuss why she’s so into it as we’ve already confirmed it’s a failure or a channel and she’s “stressing” way too much over it.
and the crafty crappy advent, uuuuugh
we should keep a pin in that to see how many of these she'll actually do
the f— with the poses, is that a doggo with extremely long legs or a girl with no legs? If they are both sitting, the girl's pose really doesn't sell it
BJ needs to THINK about what she's drawing ffs
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Thought it was one of you being ironic at first
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Her brows look so much better when she doesn’t fill them in with that pink color….
Well honestly, if you forget to cancel your sub they have every right to take their money, I don’t see your point.
I think it depends on which courses you decide to follow. I’ve never been there myself but I’m assuming, just based on logic (since looks like everybody can “teach”) that most of the courses are crap but you can find good stuff if you dig enough and/or know who to look for
If someone forgets to cancel then it's their own fault, not really skillshare's issue?
I've done the two trial months. Most of the art-related courses are micro learning style and you can watch them in maybe an hour max, I got some interesting tidbits from some, but they're mostly useless. The IT/business courses seem a bit more substantial. It's cheaper than other platforms like coursera, so if you really can't absorb information without someone spoonfeeding it to you then it's not bad, otherwise everything on there is available for free online.
I've used it and have found straight doodoo courses on there, seriously. Anybody could teach a course on Skillshare. Other than that, yeah, the real basic stuff, that you don't have to stick around for, let alone pay for. It's one of those sites that relies on irresponsible people forgetting to cancel their subscriptions.
But a lot of art channels push it and it's pretty exhausting. It's not all that it's cracked up to be.
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Jesus that looks bad
I don't even know what to say anymore, it just keeps getting worse. Since she won't shut up about the sketchbook slam challenge, maybe she would be better by now if she'd actually done some proper figure drawing.
Her mods are being annoying as always.
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Her mods are assholes
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Who the fuck gave this kid a bank account with this much money make her stop
"How do you make things see through im drawing a dragon fly"
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But seriously, there are more better artists than her who barely get 30 views. How does this boring and same faced drawing get more attention than a professional from the industry
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rofl, these kids.
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They're so fucking annoying. I think it's ok for mods to participate in the chat but they're just power-hungry and talking about shit that other people would get banned for.
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Yeah, it's ok, but there should be a limit about what they're talking about in front of an audience full of kids… Like these comments should get banned and not the advice people are giving about copics and how they're gonna fade
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So, are these mods underage or..?
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What is her obsession with outlining with everything.
With that username? Probably.
I'm not sure what she even needs 6 mods for, her chat is very civil even with some emoji spams/self promo. The mods shitposting is way more distracting.
Any artist knows that cropping out something is a no no. It also leads your eyes out of the paper, which is something you don't want to do in a composition. >>470135
Ugh, Baylee's trying to make this look more interesting with the colors, but she needs to fix the way the girl is presented.
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Hide the hands & give them big ears.
The new Baylee trademarks for the new year.
Her hiding the hands pisses me off so much. How does that encourage people to improve?
She's also really rude to be quite honest.
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Has a mod come to their senses??
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Baylee doesn't even care!
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That mod is out of there!
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I wouldn't either. These mods sound like high schoolers who have too much power
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No kidding, good sir!
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Very much a professional
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Mods can type this stuff and she's just fine with it. I hope her doodle domain doesn't have a link to this channel if kids are actually paying attention to her and her videos. Kids gonna copy mods because they have her approval, I guess.
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If the mods weren't so trigger
happy over stupid shit, I'm sure people would be calling her out on how it's been months since those events happened.
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I'll guess I have to do a bit explaining, to my sad beef with Baylee. So this happen around her artblock video which lead to me replying to her tweet. I can't find all my tweets but only this one. I was being nice and pointing out her opinion was based on the topic of not drawing by the excuse of artblock. "Artblock isn't real because you can still draw." So I thought I was talking to her normally but man did her tone and attitude change. Her white knights came in and attack me. My opinion that I said to her, it's real because many people even professionals experience it. Some people chose not to draw while some draw through it. Artblock is more of a state of mind or realization that your work kind of sucks. That account I don't have the password anymore but I never used twitter really. I have other sites to juggle.
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Looks like Baylee has some work to do…I hope someone also mentions the Psychotic Gay dude and their behavior
Honestly your argument of simply saying "popular professionals say this so it's real" is not very convincing either. But I think it was bullshit of her to talk so assertively about art block while being such a low tier artist.
Yet, her tweet was pretty damn bitchy. Her being such a cunt is the reason a lot of people don't like her anymore, as they only liked her for her personality.
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no one said she had to do away with moderating altogehter. It's that she (probably lackadaisically) picked people to be mods who weren't suitable.
She should be more considerate in who she might pick to be mods, maybe people she knows better.
…But then again that'd be too much work, wouldn't it.
She mentioned at some point before she changed it as people weren't watching the art videos because they saw the art on twitch. This was after she started taking part in them youtube creator skype call/hangout things.
Now that she changed her art videos to Saturday I'm waiting for just become a full-time Nintendo twitch player. She dedicates more time to video games than the videos based on what we see in her vlogs. Plans on the wed/Thurs and then rushes to get it done for Friday.
holy shit she does not need to use that much dry shampoo. she is going to damage her hair by drowning it in batiste.
also lol @ her being like "you may not understand why im cleaning before people come over". no baylee you do clean before people over. thats normal.
i refuse to believe that she isn't in her late teens. she acts like she doesn't understand adulthood responsibilities at all, like her development has stunted or something.
i wish she would go back to vlogging about making art, but we all know she isnt making art so lol.
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Looks like shit already… and this is supposed to be an improvement meme? Why is she starting to become obsessed with dumbo ears ahaha
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Holy fuck, that hand is wonky!
Did she slap your ass or something for you to be this butthurt? We're all here to talk shit about her, but you sound like you're straight up coming from personal issues to be sperging this much. There is no problem on her commenting on demonetization issues when Youtube is her deal, in fact, it's more valid than you coming here and sharing your opinion about the way others spend their money.
I don't like Baylee's shit personality, but some of you sound even worse.
Anon you read my mind I was gonna post Sluggie too! Baylees new changes to her art we're susp and the first i thought when I saw her new drawings were Sluggie. The elongated bodies/necks, 'squared' heads, large ears etc all seemed so at random considering baylee never deviates from her fugly style but suddenly decides to make slightly more tasteful choices (tasteful is used very lightly) im not buying it for a second that she isnt taking from a lesser known artist.
Specially if you consider how many art books she has bought over the years yet her style never changes but now she wants to bust out with something else.
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First of all, going into Youtube expecting it to be your income maker without considering its possible downfall is already stupid, even before Adpocalypse and what has been going on recently. The market changes and those who can't dance with it will stay behind.
Second, there's a bit too much victimism going into this. Even if you REALLY can't get a job or REAAAALLY can't show yourself/your voice for "personal safety reasons" (which judging by the other factors in this comment seem like a bit of bull, but I'll give it the benefit of the doubt and assume it's true) there are other ways to think outside of the box to make your content interesting.
Overall this just sounds like the type of person who will cry over things not working rather than getting their shit together and moving on until they find something that does.
>>473957>Seems people like Baylee put more videos out when they were not gaining money…
I doubt 95% of people would put out regular videos if not for the prospect of money, be it directly or indirectly.
I think it's good platforms like these exist for people to sort of forge their own paths, but a lot of people fell into the romanticized idea that this could be their jobs for the rest of their lives. You CAN work independently, but you have to be very flexible. You can't plant one seed just to discover the soil eventually runs out of nutrients. Don't get comfortable because something has been working in a span of 5 years, it's gonna change sometime.
There would be much less quality content out there, because Youtube being a paid platform allows people who are good at what they do to relocate some of their time into making "free" content.
A high quantity of passion-driven quality content is pretty much an utopia.
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How does someone, who is "professionally" in the art business, go unaware of the term "rushed" artwork?
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Baylee the fashion model…. lmao
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Its cute and junk even though we've seen it all before.
She's like one of those ladies on facebook that has her wedding photo as her profile picture, only the wedding was from like 8 yrs ago. Don't be that lady, Baylee.
Or is it too late?
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So someone else made the little camper from animal crossing, actually spent some time on it, and made it look well done. By comparison, Baylee's looks like something a small child would make rather than someone who "makes art" for a living.
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She wishes she was the mother of dragons. Omg her mug is nightmarish.
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Hacks, these two are irritating.
I don't like Sakuem or her style, but if Baylee would have even half of the effort she has..
Baylee has to get over making one-two finished pieces per month and learn to sketch when ever where ever, from real life, not just from images.
i unfollowed her a few years ago after she started being homophobic and really gross in general. she'd go out of her way to insult people's appearances, harassing people and then would act like an angel to people like baylee. she had a ton of comments on her g+ that you could see publically, where she was body shaming skinny girls, telling trans people they were wrong to be trans, telling new artists they sucked and stuff, but she hid them.
there was a lot of people whispering about her a few years ago because she wouldnt take criticism. theres a tiny bit on artist grapevine about her http://artist-grapevine.tumblr.com/post/144301822110/what-are-peoples-thoughts-on-the-youtube-artist
but she deleted her comments lmao
she also created the youtube artist collective clearly as a way to kiss ass to artists bigger than her. i remember her being really shifty about inviting new people in, had really strict rules on it so small artists couldnt get in.
saw tons of bitching about fan art too, and then she started selling it again lmao
and that time she entered a copic contest to win a ton of stuff and a thirteen year old won and she kicked off saying it was unfair to Copic and Copic were that harassed by her that they opened to fresh votes (and she still didnt win but she was proud of knocking a kid down)
and thats just the shit i remember from the top of my head tbh.
Yeah, if anything I think it's a prime example to the rest of us on how not to act when you become successful and to remain humble. Also, let's say you do become popular, use that influence to help others.
Not to completely deviate from the original convo, but I think I understand why Baylee is okay with the new YouTube monitization requirements, it removes competition and makes it harder for smaller people to surpass the already large youtubers. Idk, just a thought since she's money hungry.
about the monetization what’s pissing me most is the ranking in related videos and search results, it will be even harder to reach a decent following. I know I will never compete in terms of popularity and now my chances are even thinner. (No one cares, I know. I’m saging)
Wasn’t she the one who wanted to encourage small youtubers though? Maybe I remember wrong
Yep she doesn’t understand that it was another era entirely. Less expectations, lower quality start point, less people and therefore less competition. Nowadays you’re supposed to invest in good equipments and spend a good amount only to be “acceptable”. Doing it “for fun” is doable but without proper tools you will not go one step further than the hobbysts.
Glad I’m not the only one who found those vlogs extremely boring. Can’t really say why, though.
Exactly! I guess what we can try and do as smaller channels is work together and treat each other with respect, and if we do some how get popular use our position to help the smaller channels.
Probably because all she did was complain and act like a dbag.
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>>485541>staying at the riverside resort around January
I can very close to booking a room in that same resort around that same stay. Looks like I dodged a fucking bullet.
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Cats always in frame…… yawn…. her concepts are so boring.
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The face of constipation…. Hahahaha
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Please don't press new ones but then again I don't even want to think what an enamel pin of her work would look like.
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Been up for an hour and not changed the title or did I miss something in that video??
>>494275>Those old cheap style buttons are not something other than kids would buy.
Are you forgetting the majority of her audience is children?
Altho I actually still like buttons like those when the patterns aren't shit. Enamel pins look fancier and all but I keep feeling like they're going to fall off my stuff.
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baylee is streaming again and she said it took her an hour to finish this
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Why does she have to talk about her bodily functions on social media, like pooping your pants wasn’t attention seeking enough!?
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The art of a YouTube SUPERSTAR!
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This was the comment
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more button streaming today i doubt she'll even get to button pressing
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>"derpy is cute"
and she jumping on making DDLC merch as its popular atm
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Baylee you're not funny or edgy with this stuff.
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wow her art really hasn't changed at all
I thought the same thing! But… she actually knows what she's talking about and she's still respectful and doesn't seem to swear just because.
But yeah, good review. Her video thumbnails are horrible, though. It's always funny to me how far away artists are from design, although it's much easier to learn for them.
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OT but the>artists are so far away from design
Bit intrigues me because this may be the root of my annoyance with some art, or perhaps identifying the differences is an important/overlooked thing?
Do you have any links or insight into that topic (I know this ain't the art thread but here we are)
Also enjoyed the linked video. Hi, if you're in here MIA
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Judging by the amount of subscribers I am almost suspecting this to be a self post.
Either way, she has made a valid point on the few minutes of video I watched, but those types of videos are usually so immature. Coincidentally those ranty people are hardly ever great at art themselves. At least she seems to be working towards improving, tho. And she has a nice voice.
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this review of baylees book
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This poor soul…
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Her booth looks so empty compared to other booths I've seen…You'd think a person who uploads youtube videos like 2 times a week with no other job would have more art pieces for sale.
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you were close. Wth does she need an iPad for when she doesn't even draw on her hella expensive that much
But Anon, what would she edit her thumbnails with?
It's her money, but I'm so disappointed in her lately. She could be doing so much more! It's sad how much she's lost her way. :(
Her art is actually awful. I'm surprised anyone even bought anything from her booth besides buttons. Her art style is just so immature and unprofessional, which is shocking because she has real experience and great tools at her disposal. For example, with her Cintiq she could make really high quality digital art and produce at a faster rate than fifteen hour sketches, two hour inking, and fifty hour Copic coloring sessions.
I'm so sad whenever I see her YouTube videos now. I miss the old Baylee, straight from the go Baylee…..
I'm really hoping we see digital art from her with this new iPad purchase.(:()
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this is hilarious. her estimated early yearnings are pretty pathetic considering this is her full time job. i guess her husband must make a bit. i'm also laughing at the drop in her followers.