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No. 1006963

8Passengers are a family of 8 consisting of Ruby Franke, her husband Kevin Franke, and their 6 young children. They have a vlog family channel on YouTube with 2.44M subscribers. Here’s the rundown:

>They are a Mormon family, and Ruby’s parenting style is pretty strict.

>She humiliates her kids on camera by filming awkward moments (giving her daughter the sex talk, showing her daughter shaving her armpits, filming her daughter shopping for her first bra). The kids always look super humiliated and embarrassed and often ask her to stop filming, but Ruby refuses.
>Her oldest son was sent to a Mormon Wilderness camp, where he lived in the woods with other “troubled” kids. The Frankes sent him here because he wasn’t doing well in school.
>When the oldest son came home, he got his bed taken away for SEVEN MONTHS and had to sleep on a beanbag chair in the family room.
>Ruby has taken all the kids’ phones away for over a year. Kids complain that they have no friends at school because of this.
>Ruby’s 5-year-old daughter forgot to pack a lunch for school. Her teacher texted Ruby, asking her to bring in a lunch for her daughter, and Ruby refused, saying her daughter should starve to learn her lesson that she has to remember to pack a lunch. Ruby then says that she hopes no one shares food with her youngest daughter so she really learns her lesson.
>In one video, two of Ruby’s sons are playing around and laughing. Ruby tells them if they don’t stop, she’ll take away their “privilege to eat dinner.”
>Stole her eldest son’s homework and told him he had to pay her $20 in cash in order to get it back. The homework was worth half his grade. She said she did this to teach him the value of his things.
>Shows an art piece her young daughter made for her and said, “Too bad it’s going in the trash.”
>Puts her young son on camera and asks him if he thinks Ruby and Kevin are going to divorce.
>Threatened to cut the head off one of her youngest daughter’s stuffed animals. The daughter is crying and is clearly very upset and scared.

Youtube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCQ3FRaHOIwXLOQNeUwVpBUA
Ruby’s Instagram: @8Passengers

A few videos that explain the situation more:
The Disturbing Truth of Family Channels: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaL5G5UxuaM
8 Passengers called out by fans: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bs0nXQa77bU
8 Passengers Mom is in Big Trouble: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hy4cbfhayhM

Some articles:
https://www.insider.com/8-passengers-youtube-drama-what-happened-franke-family-2020-6

https://www.distractify.com/p/8-passengers-abuse-controversy

There is also a change.org petition for CPS to investigate these lunatics:
https://www.change.org/p/child-protective-services-cps-investigation-into-8-passengers

No. 1006966

Mormanism should be recognized as a cult.

No. 1006989

>>1006966
it is by anyone who’s not afraid to be honest.

No. 1007144

>>1006963

I've known some Mormon families, and while they had stricter parents than most kids I knew, they certainly didn't veer into abusive, using deprivation of basic needs as punishment etc. Lots of this seems to be a terrible parenting thing not a Mormon thing (except the number of children).

No. 1007367

Just heard about this nutjob, boy is she cow potential. Her poor, poor teenagers literally have no friends. I think this is a decent breakdown of why she's a legitimately bad mother and person

No. 1007370

>>1007144
She sent her teenage son to a "wilderness retreat," AKA she had him kidnapped in the night and sent out to the desert with religious nutjobs. I'll try to find the video where she proudly talks about it.

No. 1007403

>Mormons
well…
Does anyone feel uncomfortable seeing youtuber families picked apart on a place like this? Plus, you would think these people would have learned from those DaddyOFive people that filming your kids crying is fucking weird and the people that sit around on the internet trying to doxx you and call CPS to your house to "save" your kids are even weirder.

No. 1007414

i love ruby, she is psycho.

there's another family like this one–giant, religious (might be quiverfull), they all wear white clothing, the house (super minimalist and pretty, deep in the country) is also all white, mom's hair is white and the sons all have really long hair, i think one son was a busker but then split recently. dad is running the show but is creepy and hangs back. for a while they did camper living?they are giant weirdos and huge cows.

i've been searching for them all night, does anyone have any idea who i'm talking about? they started blowing up right before corona hit. they would make an amazing thread too.

No. 1007437

>>1007414
Almost 100% sure you're talking about the Licciardo-Toivola family. The mother, Taina is the one in charge of the channel.
She loves to ride on the "supermom of 10"-shtick, the older kids seem to be obviously embarrassed by her antics. Entire family is also vegan.

No. 1007452

>>1007437
Their fucking names lmao poor kids.. especially little Kingjames. And it's so depressing seeing her get up, exercise, put on makeup, do her hair, take care of a million kids, all while her hideously ugly old husband is sleeping.

No. 1007458

>>1007452
The names are even more ridiculous in context, as they live (or at least lived) in Finland. I can only imagine how an average Finn butchers names like Aphrodite and D'Artagnan.

No. 1007462

>>1007437
Honestly I find this woman’s motivation for the most banal life ever quite inspiring. The more children you have the more life becomes about making meals, cleaning house, and teaching someone ABCs/123s. She seems to love it.

No. 1007466

>>1007403
Sage if you don't have any new info. I'm glad to see YouTuber parents picked apart no matter where it takes place

No. 1007492

>>1007458
Afrodiitte and Dartanjani, how did these wackjobs even meet?

No. 1007517

>>1007437
omfg anon thank you! you are a beautiful soul. this family is so. crazy.

No. 1891745

I don't see this posted yet? But she's been arrested and the kids are at CPS. I came to this thread for that very reason, googling if you guys had a thread on her. Wasn't disappointed:

http://ebaumsworld.com/articles/former-8-passengers-youtube-mommy-vlogger-arrested-on-two-counts-of-aggravated-child-abuse/87439503/

No. 1891786

>>1891745
Ebaums…? Anyway, should've happened years ago, she's deep in that cult shit (sorry, LIVING IN TRUTH) and is going to kill those kids someday.

No. 1891807

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>>1891786
it's been reported by more serious outlets too https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/rcna102731
kids were found with injuries after one of them jumped out of a window to alert the neighbours.
they're marked in custody on the sheriff's website too: https://news.washeriff.net/divisions/bookings/

No. 1891818

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Ok saging because you all probably know but heres an article about her starving one of her kids for those who dont or want more detail.

No. 1891830

>>1007144
read under the banner of heaven by krakauer
those families aren't exceptions per se but many of the things ruby is doing fall very in line with mormon theology, including the taking phones/limiting access to tech thing or labeling necessities as privileges. also mormonism is inherently incredibly sexist and (to add to your anecdotal evidence) every mormon family ive met had relatively okay repressed sons (as far as "okay" moids can go) but very maladjusted nervous wreck daughters.
weird as hell for ruby to put all this on cam though considering how vain and generally "out of place" it is for a mormon woman to do this. she seems to be a good ol practicing mormon when she abuses her kids but the media attention is too strong to resist. plus why tf is she talking about divorce like that especially to her kids? divorce is the most evil thing a mormon woman can ask for.

No. 1891901

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Grabbed this from an article:
Ruby Franke's sisters released an Instagram statement saying her arrest on suspicion of child abuse 'needed to happen' and that 'the kids are now safe'
Her three sisters made the joint statement on Instagram.

https://www.insider.com/ruby-franke-8-passengers-youtube-family-vlog-sisters-arrest-mormon-2023-8

No. 1892000

Holy shit I just came here to discuss this. It just keeps getting worse. The eldest daughter was estranged after dipping the fuck out and asked for help compiling instances of abuse or mentions of the children in youtube videos. That's probably why they quickly deleted the channel. I can't believe it took the child climbing out of the window and running away to get to this point. The father is trying to get custody and there's no way he didn't know about the situation.

No. 1892011

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>>1892000
She posted this on her story and also posted saying she’s being trying to get CPS involved for ages

No. 1892013

>>1891786
yeah I know, I often get comments on that but i'm a boomer and I still visit eBaums regularly.
>>1891818
So she's been going for becoming DaddyofFive 2.0. Youtube / influencer families already have a terrible name. I forgot who they where but remember that couple that adopted the Chinese autistic child, had it for like 5 years or something and then just returned it? They're the scum of the earth.

No. 1892051

>>1892013
the Stauffers. not only did they do all that but there were videos of them taping up his hands with duct tape bc he apparently wouldn’t stop sucking his thumb.

No. 1892113

>>1006963
>>1892013
>Chinese autistic child, had it for like 5 years or something and then just returned it?

they "rehomed" him
they made videos for a while without hoping to avoid the situation but they eventually had to give their stereotypical sitting on the floor/bed while wearing sighing sad explanation video of basically tossing their son somewhere else
i can't wait for the netflix doc series about these insane family vloggers in the future kek fucking insane narcissist adults

No. 1892321

>>1892051
>>1892113
Yeah and remember this is what Youtube wanted just "wholesome family vloggers" pushing product. I'm sure they regret that decision since one after the other they turn out to be child abusers.
The new youtube CEO has a job to do cleaning up after Susan Wojcicki's mess..

No. 1892396

>>1892321
I'm confused, what you mean youtube wanted this? like they wanted a push for "wholesome" content to save face because of all the controversies they have?

No. 1892504

>>1892396
oh yes, Youtube has been wanting to "change directions" for quite some time now, i'm talking since at least from the top of my head 2018. There's even been some leaks about it how they wanted to get rid of tea channels and gossip channels, trying to change it to sort of well.. more controlled, i guess? like television? Some of the major PR nightmares they have had are with Shane Dawson, Austin Jones, Family of Five, all that sort of stuff. They wanna go more Disney and less Jerry Springer, way less Jerry Springer and way more Nickelodeon. There's old articles online about that stuff too.

No. 1892595

>>1892113
>>1892051
I thought they only had the child for a few months at most. Five fucking years of raising this child and they threw him back into foster care like nothing? They're pieces of shit.
>>1892504
Imagine the stuff that will come out about onision. T is old enough to start speaking for himself at this point.

No. 1892791

>>1892504
Source on the YT stuff? They blow a lot of pr smoke but they've made very little in way of changes like you suggest and only because advertisers got mad.

No. 1892875


No. 1893247

Finally. She was brought up for many years until she was finally arrested. Those kids didn’t have to suffer for this long(learn2sage)

No. 1893300

>>1892504
if they saw shane dawson as a problem they'd stop putting him on trending. but they don't.

No. 1893307

>>1891830
The phrases “modest is hottest” and “white and delightsome” are burned into my brain

No. 1893328

>>1893300
You're forgetting a few years ago Shane got canceled hard and they had to perform some full on damage control. Shane even got demonetized for a while.

No. 1893459

Next should be Karissa Collins. She’s too far gone, one of her kids almost died of a UTI.. her baby went septic while she nonchalantly had lunch. I doubt those kids are getting anything remotely similar to a proper education at home.

No. 1893874

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>>1893459
heh- took the liberty to look her up and holy fucking shit lady, its a vagina, not a clowncar. she does pop up here and there on lolcow (like in tradthots) but she doesn't have her own thread yet. I think she should and yeah I think you're right, one of these days when CPS removes the shit from their eyes she'll definitely be next. Just some shit I found:

https://www.reddit.com/r/FundieSnarkUncensored/comments/13o6hsm/being_friends_with_karissa_collins_tells_me/?rdt=58685

https://www.tumblr.com/tacos4teenbrides/643053369541476352/karissa-collins-is-not-okay

https://www.reddit.com/r/FundieSnarkUncensored/comments/11xtu98/karissa_collins_im_a_terrible_abusive_neglectful/

https://www.reddit.com/r/FundieSnarkUncensored/comments/w412vv/karissa_collins_spreading_hate_and_misinformation/

Women like these are these "traditional Christian (or other cult) wholesome mothers" and basically base their entire personality around that and "being perfect", in the meanwhile taking it out on the kids sadistically since they have no other outlet what so ever and they're "just being good traditional mothers and discipline them." (Bible said spare the rod, spoil the child, amirite?)
Those poor fucking kids. Holy shit. (unintended pun there). I think there should be a thread, maybe we should ask?
Also sorry did not mean to sidetrack this thread, hope you enjoy the milk. There's plenty to go around.

No. 1893877

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>>1893874
Andrea Yates says hi btw.

No. 1893878

>>1893874
>its a vagina, not a clowncar
I don't know anything about this woman yet but fuck off with your misogyny, women can decide for themselves whether and how many children to have. I hate scrote takes like this even if the woman being discussed has views I don't agree with.(infighting)

No. 1893882

>>1893874
his dna just gave up even trying after the 4th kid.

No. 1893898

>>1893878
I ain't a scrote you absolute tard. Fuck off, I say whatever the hell I wanna say, twat.
Its not like we haven't got enough people in the world. If anything we need less fucking people.
>>1893882
I bet he ran dryer than a martini.(infighting)

No. 1894371

>>1893874
I would definitely post if you start a thread nona. I’ve kept receipts on Karissa for a while but I’m too lazy to start a thread myself
A fundie general thread would be nice too

No. 1894422

>>1006963
>>1894371
There actually is a fundie general already
>>>/snow/1172792

No. 1895062

>>1892000
here's the alleged call a neighbor made.

No. 1895084

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No. 1895157

>>1895062
God, the emotion in that man's voice … his heart is breaking for this kid, a complete stranger, whose own mother believes that "eating is a privilege"

The kid is so happy to have a fucking banana, poor little man. My heart is breaking, I hope the witch who did this to her children, her flesh and blood, gets torn apart by wild dogs.

No. 1895177

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12493621/Youtuber-mom-Ruby-Franke-appears-court-accuses-children-outrageous-behavior.html

Isn't this nice? This cunt of a mother accused her 12 year old son of molesting kids and going as far as accusing him watching porn at the age of 3. Also if R molested E then why is E with him at Jodi's house? Now the accused victim is gonna be separated from his siblings for the time being. How low can she fucking go?

Recently Jodi's niece went on a livestream for 3 hours explaining how she went through the same thing where they made her confess into doing things that she never did. Also this happened to her previous clients as well as they are speaking out.

I'm just baffled at this point. I hope the older kids like S will call out on this bullshit since she was the one who's doing all the raising while she and her deadbeat husband are going on vacations.

No. 1895240

>>1895177

She is such an evil cunt

No. 1895451

>>1895177
Holy fucking shit, this is so twisted. The tales she's spinning aren't about the son she sent to 'wilderness camp', are they? Or a younger son? And her husband just sits staring ahead as she says it? What the hell is wrong with these people

No. 1895548

>>1895451
It's the younger son.(sage your shit)

No. 1895581

>>1893874
White women really hate their black children. Not ALL white women obviously (most of you are completely normal and fine), but many of them (including my own mom) like the aesthetic of black children as a social status woke points thing, but act satanic towards their own.
Sage for sperg, but I'm right.

No. 1895671

>>1895581
Always feel sorry for token adoptees, especially the ones taken in for the purpose of being godly little soldiers. They get the outside baths, get false memories of taking and killing other children in their home countries, then inevitably get dumped into perverts from the internet they've been "rehomed" with.

No. 1895686

>>1895581
Im a little confused as to why you mention this because none of her kids are black or adopted

No. 1895705

>>1895686
Have you never seen mixed race black/white kids?

No. 1895737

>>1895705
her kids are mixed race not black. if anything they’re more than white than they are black since the dad probably is partially european because of mixing during slavery

No. 1895817

>>1895737
Sorry about touching that nerve lmao

No. 1895823

>>1895671
Anyway, yes you are right. The "too many children for clout" genre and the "white mom with a series of little butlers" genre have some serious overlap. All these borderline mothers have an intense savior/martyr/god complex made worse by the media attention and sponsors they get.

No. 1896341

>>1891830
Every moid I’ve met who grew up in a Mormon household but left the religion as a teenager or an adult is honestly a demon kek. They were so repressed and now they just sleep around, do drugs and hate anything wholesome and family related. (Personal anecdote for the 5-6 ex mormons I’ve been around/met).

No. 1901155

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Kevin Franke's attorney has made statements claiming that Kevin didn't know about any of the abuse the children were facing, and went on to blame Jodi Hildebrandt.
>>1895177
Jfc she's a piece of shit who deserves whatever is coming to her. Her own sister has spoken out about being estranged and cut off from the family. They only started reconnecting with the oldest daughter that left that environment.

No. 1901158

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https://www.ksl.com/article/50730156/sister-of-8-passengers-mother-shares-what-the-family-knew
Article detailing what Ruby Franke's sister knew, she also reconnected with Shari Franke, the eldest daughter who dipped out of that hellhouse.

No. 1901418

Jail is too good for Ruby tbh. She gets three meals and a bed. That's more than what her children get

No. 1904763

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Sage to be safe but this cow crossover was pretty amusing to stumble across

No. 1913637

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Saw this in line at the grocery store today

No. 1914010

>>1913637
Oh, fuck. It's so wild that after all these years not only is the 8 passengers abuse common Internet knowledge but it's actually main-fucking-stream. So surreal seeing this evolve beyond an iNabber whine video kek

No. 1932320

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She's daddy of five and Louise Turpin rolled in to one.
Remember with the Turpins there was also one kid who escaped out a window, who was previously bound and gagged, begging neighbors for food and help.
I'm sure her fellow inmates will give her the full treatment.

No. 1979637

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A lot of evidence has been released in this case. Be aware that there are graphic pictures of the abused children. It is horrific. I don't believe the father knew nothing about this tbh. I think it just got too intense for him & she got the kids away from him to abuse on her own. The files are available at the link on this page.
https://www.washco.utah.gov/departments/attorney/case-highlights-media/utah-vs-franke-hildebrandt/
The journal is truly horrifying, worse than the photos even in terms of how the abuse is described.

No. 1979660

>>1979637
oh my god. it was way worse than i ever imagined. a day later and he probably would’ve lost a foot.

No. 1979760

>>1979637
Kevin absolutely knew about it and participated in it until the folie à deux/sexual weirdness between Ruby and Jodi got too intense
he was doing “exorcisms” on the kids, which meant waterboarding them, hitting them with cactuses, heat-torturing them, and so on

No. 1979766

>>1979760
yes, you are right. I didn't really follow them until the abuse rumors began (not in their demographic), so I didn't realize his involvement until I read around a bit more. However, how is he not getting investigated and charged too? There's plenty of evidence of his prior involvement in abuse. I don't get why he is a free man.

Ruby and Jodi are monsters; I'm not trying to detract from that. If R hadn't escaped, he and his sister would probably have died in Arizona after Jodi moved them to the new "land." I was heartened by R and E telling their mom off and not losing their spirits entirely. I hope they know they have millions of supporters who want them to recover and live amazing lives.

I hope the other four children are also getting therapy and help. I wish so much they'd get out of Mormonism for good. Leave Utah. That state is so creepy.

No. 1979816

>>1979766
the real question is what’s on his laptop? their oldest daughter went by their house to get the kids’ stuff and she took his laptop. he raised hell to get that laptop back and even wanted to put her in jail for it. what the fuck does he have on there?

No. 1979825

I really think she was going to kill those kids in Arizona. She'd claim that she did it to save their souls.

Hopefully the pen papers are released soon. Now that's going to be some wild shit.

No. 1979931

>>1979816
didn't know about this! I'll have to look this up, ty anon

No. 1979934

>>1979931

There are multiple laptops listed in the evidence documents, iirc. I'm way more curious what's on any of Jodi's devices than Kevin's.

No. 1979996

>>1979825
>I really think she was going to kill those kids in Arizona. She'd claim that she did it to save their souls.
Like some Lori Vallow shit. Gives me chills thinking about it.

No. 1980040

>>1979816
she went back to get her own stuff including a laptop, I understood it was her own computer. he tried to sic the cops on her because he's a deranged control freak who hates her for escaping. I don't think it's any more complicated than that.

No. 1980047

>>1979760

Source on him participating in the abuse over the summer? Is that in the evidence documents?

No. 1980336

>>1980047
not in the summer, back when Jodi was living with them he was “the official exorcist” according to his second interview

No. 1980620

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>>1979637
The images and videos are horrific. Even the EMTs are disturbed so you know it's bad. Her journaling so frankly about the abuse she inflicts daily is insane, she even calls it abuse like she is fully aware what she's doing is abuse but feels completely justified or has some psycho godbag reasoning for it. So much worse than I imagined it would be.



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