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>>21287>with a clear eating disorder
Wait, so that means that the huge fattasses shouldn't be allowed to play in the sand box either, right?
Was this thread really from SR? I can't believe it was that long ago but I remember the thread. Shmegeh was also getting posted if I'm not mistaken.
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I'm going to assume they don't.
I remember her from this thread >>9230
I still can't believe she's still alive.
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holy shit, this is genuinely scary.
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This is the twat shes hanging out with. http://emergencymittens.tumblr.com/
(pic related that's her new "friend")
I don't see how hanging out with someone who has the same ED as you is going to help fix your ED.
Also shes so slow as to not getting why her instagram keeps getting deleted.
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She plans to go to Mega.
I'm sure she'll stick out like a sore thumb with the way she looks and plus in cosplay(seeing how it wont fit her.)
If I see her around I'll take pics.(Its a few months off though)
What the fuck are you so upset about? At least she's actually made a new friend instead of being lonely and around her disgusting mother all the time. Not only that, but they actually understand each other and have similar struggles.
This is probably the only time I've been pushed to whiteknight someone who's been posted on this board, jfc
I'm not even mad.
What crawled up your ass and died.
Jesus christ. I feel bad for her though, she is very clearly in deep with her ED.
How the fuck is she not on a peg feed yet? Legitimately, she needs medical attention.
Yeah I've followed her for a few years and although she has always been bad her present state is the worst I've ever seen her.
Even if she decided to recover right now she probably wouldn't live for very long after; the damage is done.
As a Human Physiology/Biochem student I can tell you with her confidence that her emaciation has reached such a point that it appears her body is in the final stages of catabolising her organs and it doesn't look like there's much left to devour. I'm actually amazed she's still moving around as I can tell you she will be in enormous amounts of pain some days from joint pain to peptic ulcers and constipation and anal fissures.
She's got a heart attack in the mail and I wouldn't be surprised if it's due any week now. Unless she gets help now she'll be dead before 2016, that I can guarantee.
We really are a resilient species aren't we?
I think her mother has given up trying to help her seeing as she doesn't want to help herself so she just keeps falling back to her ED.
She doesn't want to stop having the ED.
And too the people who think her mom is a massive cunt, we don't know this. This is coming from someone who lies, and more likely than not, bitch aint getting her way so she calls her mom a meany butt pants just like every other cow.
>>21404>they're probably cunts about any other eating disorder than their own.
I'm kind of curious about this. I think anorexics and the super morbidly obese are two ends on a spectrum of disordered eating and I think they can tend to dislike each other (with plenty of exception, of course).
I kind of wish though that people would see the super morbidly obese the same way we see an anorexic–as someone with an eating disorder and possible mental illnesses. It seems, to me, like it would end up with better ways of treatment and rehabilitation than "just eat less fatty lol" type advice which means nothing to someone like this. It's the equivalent of someone telling this girl to just eat a sandwich.
Anyway, I find these pictures very sad. Aside from her eating disorder, how exactly is she a lolcow? I missed the SR thread.
Someone told her that before. >"You won't live to 2014"
and yet here she is
>>21406>Aside from her eating disorder, how exactly is she a lolcow? I missed the SR thread.
I don't think she is one? The only reason why she's posted here is for us to marvel at her ability to survive at such a low weight. Kind of like how those bbw cuties pictures are posted in the fat thread; so we can marvel at their disgusting obesity.
But I guess some people think Ashley is mean or something, but like >>21376
said, she's probably just has starvation rage. People will go insane when they are starved.
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Yes of course other people acting bad is making your bad behaviour acceptable
Ummm it's HER fault. She is letting herself rot away and she doesn't expect people to stare?
If she doesn't want people to stare then get help.
She is posting thinspo(pic with fingers around leg captioned 'sorry not sorry' etc) and is generally really cunty
She once posted her japanese takeout and made it all cute and said she threw it all up and is always posting food and saying 'down the toilet it goes' It makes me mad that she portrays her ed like she does tbh
Yeah, when I was anorexic I used to be SO. FUCKING. ANGRY.
Like you couldn't talk to me. I was short and snippy with people and would get mad and throw tantrums every fucking day. I was a nightmare to be around.
I was never anorexic, per se, but when I had a mental breakdown a while back I wouldn't eat and counted my calories. All that jazz.
I fucking hated everybody. It took all I had not to snap at my customers and my boyfriend.
I guess so
At first I was like 'wait where is her head'
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Everyone on lolcow is a snowflake?! SAY IT AINT SO
I have followed her for quite a while on twitter as well as tumblr. It is really fucking sad, because she does seem like a nice girl who is literally at her breaking point. She comes off as brash most of the time, because she is just sick of being sick.
I have always wondered why she was not admitted to some sort of treatment facility? I know she is over the age of 18, but surely someone would be able to convince her, or get some sort of court order.
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>I can't be racist, I know a black person! Plus a black person was mean to me once so it doesn't matter!
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i don't know a thing about tattoos, but isn't there a weight limit or something on getting them? i've heard stories of petite but healthy people passing out during/after getting tattoos. she is literally just chicken skin wrapped over a skeleton, there's nothing under there. what artist would be comfortable tattooing her?>>21770
this is legitimately frightening, oh god
I know that there's a weight limit on tattoos when it comes to really fat people. Even then though it depends on the artist.
Most don't want to do it on fat people because the skin is so stretched and fragile that the ink won't hold well and it'll look like shit.
I don't think anorexics have that problem, but passing out because she's already so weak in the first place could be an issue.
Yep, I think the only people that hate on her are those used to the saccharine sweet fake personalities of pronana kawaii bloggers. She doesn't have that personality, so when people ask her a rude question, she'll respond in a legitimately lulzy way instead of moping around.
I feel really bad for her, and I don't understand why she isn't in an eating disorder clinic. She needs help ASAP and her mum isn't helping her obviously, I think she mentioned a few times that she got her eating disorder patterns and such at a v young age from her mother, who would starve, throw up etc. to look skinny, would have competitions with her to see who would lose more weight. It's messed up.
How is being scared of black people racist?
In the area I live in, most black people I see are from the asylum centre in my city, which is a crime hotspot that has recently even had a stabbing. It's to the point that the police had to make a public statement that they will increase patrolling around the asylum centre, after a teen girl was molested IN THE MIDDLE OF THE STREET by some ghanaian dude.
Whenever I see a black male, I know that there is an extremely high probability that they're from the asylum centre. My heart rate goes up, I become afraid. They're the ONLY men I've seen bother random women in the street in an aggressive manner.
I'll be afraid if I want to, if that makes me racist, or if that makes that proana girl racist, so be it.
I hate how due to PC nonsense we're not even allowed to be afraid or careful anymore.
>>21788>being this naive
you know where you belong.
If I see someone behaving dangerously on the street time and time again of course I will be scared of similar looking people in the future.>>21786
Don't bother, anon. I had to move to a different area because my part of the city was overrun by immigrants who were harassing people 24/7, but when I say that to people I get called the next Hitler even though I'm an immigrant myself, just not an illegal like most of them.
Let it go, you can't reason with these people and they'll always find a way to strawman.
So, let me get this straight, if around 95% of the black people I see are from the asylum centre and thus more likely to commit a crime, I'm racist for getting antsy when I see them?
They are less that 2% of my tiny city's population and manage to commit most of the crimes. It's impressive in a way.
My definition of racism is not the SJW one, so I guess in that sense I'm racist.
For what it's worth, I don't think blacks are inferior at all, if we had a huge flood of white blue eyed nordic asylum seekers that commited lots of crimes, I'd be antsy around blue eyed blond nordic men.
I know exactly what you mean.
The city I live in in the UK has a really high percentage of immigrants living here, particularly from countries like Nigeria, Senegal, Pakistan etc. and let me tell you, these fucking pigs have absolutely no respect for women and even less so if you're a white woman, and then even less if you happen to be blonde haired as I am.
Whenever I see one coming towards me down the street I actually anticipate some form of interaction from them, be it them trying to pick me up, catcalling or just leering at me. I used to be really timid about it when I first moved here but now I respond to it really aggressively, screaming and shouting and swearing at them.
Like, it makes me so fucking angry that I cannot walk the streets in my OWN FUCKING COUNTRY without enduring harassment from immigrants.
I am actually considering purchasing a survival knife and sewing a hidden pocket into my coat because I feel like I'm going to be bundled into a car one day walking home.
Even today I was doing some shopping in my local Tesco and I had some guy from Africa come over and start hitting on me, in the middle of the fucking aisle whilst I'm clutching bread, milk and salad cream.
I don't think this is racist in the slightly, it's a developed reaction to past experienced. People who try to deny that these types of people from certain countries aren't vile, rapey little cretins aren't living in the real world because you can fucking guarantee that they would pin you down and gang-rape you in a second if they could.
As soon as you start assuming that all black people are from the aslyum centre, that they must have been a criminal (and you can get into how black people are disportionally in the prison system because of racism too) you are being racist. >>21811
You are 100% racist too mate, although it is obvious as soon as you call the immigrates pigs. There is a lot of racism in the UK because of people with your mindset, and it has nothing to do with the immigrates having 'no respect' for women, as white boys are just as fucked up.
There is a big difference between saying that you are scared of a particular situation happening (rape, mugged, etc) and saying that you believe a whole group of people, whether it is a race or gender or culture, etc, is going to do it to you.
I don't want to derail the thread with this nonsense, so you're welcome to make a thread to soapbox your views on /b/ so we can respond.
Let's stop this now though, because we're ruining the thread for everyone else.
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lol she's doing that thing smegheh does, where they lean forward and tense up so they'll look skinnier in the photos. Top kek.
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Ermergherd so skinny, plz pay attention to me.
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You know even if these chicks start eating again their hearts might still give out from their past anorexic behavior. Isn't that what happened to Karen Carpenter?
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kek, point out for me where I denounced all immigrants as pigs? Protip: you can't because I never said that
>that you believe a whole group of people, whether it is a race or gender or culture, etc, is going to do it to you
In my area there was a recent nationwide scandal in which the lid was blown off of an enormous paedophile ring that had been kidnapping, drugging, raping and forcing young, British, white girls into prostitution, but despite numerous reports to the police they refused to properly investigate for fear of being branded "racist".
Picture related are the mugshots of a HANDFUL of the ringleaders. Every single person involved was an Asian male immigrant.
You look at that image and you try to tell me one more fucking time that I am being paranoid. You are not living in the real world.
Also if anybody is interested:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rotherham_child_sexual_exploitation_scandal
I legitimately hold serial killers in higher esteem than I do rapists and offending paedophiles.
Killing a person is one thing but overpowering somebody and forcing yourself onto them sexually is a whole other level of repulsion that I cannot articulate properly.
There seems to be an enormous problem in the UK with Asian sexual offenders, the whole affair makes me sick to my stomach and is a damn fucking shame to the genuinely decent people who come to the UK for educational/career prospects.
almost all serial killers are rapists too though.
Ted Bundy, John Wayne Gacy, Jeffrey Dahmer… the only one I can think of from the notorious U.S serial killers that didn't rape anyone is the only female, Aileen Wuornos.
P much, but I would assume if they just started eating normally, and not work up to eat like a normal person.
But then again I aint a doctor so I don't really know.
Goddamn she does have a beautiful face though.
If she put on even just 20lbs she would be gorgeous.
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You should have these discussions on /b/. I know you're butthurt, but it's really offtopic so please stop.>>21860
Oh ya, too bad about her shitty personality. Why do people attention whore like this, I don't get it…
Like in this photo, she's hunching over so her spine sticks out more in the photo. Why does she want us to think she's skinnier than she actually is?
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Another example of her messed up narcissism. This is a nude photo she took with her CHILD. Yes, it's her child.
Can you imagine? She has 2 kids so it's possible she made the other one take the photo. "come cuddle mummy now, and don't move. Johnny can you take the picture?"
Technically speaking, yes, you are being racist. You can argue about it being reasonable or not, but it is simple racism. That's off topic bs though. >>21817
I wonder if she is one of those people that will always have a fuller face no matter what (so, if she gained weight she might end up with a moonface). Her face just looks so normal compared to the rest. >>21818
I think it's an issue, yes, they need to be really carefully monitored because their hearts end up really screwed up.
what the fuck what the fuck what the fuuuuuck
it kind of looks like the kid is breastfeeding too? this has to be some kind of abuse
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Jesus christ, how horrifying. Don't you have police? I feel so bad for you guys.
How does she have anything to breastfeed it with?
Also, I bet she does it purely for weightloss, breastfeeding helps you to lose weight. What a cunt.
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is the only lolcow here. She's hurting her kids, I'm amazed CPS hasn't gotten involved.
Also lol, IQ 170 apparently. Einstein move over.
the ghostperfume one is at least not hurting anyone but herself.
are those huge veins on her chest from breastfeeding? i've never seen that before. she doesn't even have boobs, she just has milky veins and nipples.
i'm scared for her kids, honestly.
even though it's culturally thought of as gross, breastfeeding a 3 year old is v good for the 3 year old, from a purely scientific perspective.
We all know she's not doing it for the kid though lol, she just wants to lose more weight.
I think she had said that she was taking some sort of supplement to be able to breast feed.>>21922
Traditionally the average age to ween off of breast feeding is 3 years, verses our modern day timing of like 6 months.
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Her 8 year old cooks, cleans and plays left 4 dead. You know, that super violent zombie game (I'd know, I spent countless hours on it and it's NOT suitable for a child this young).
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for those who live in a cave deep under a rock and haven't played left 4 dead
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For someone so smart she sure says some stupid shit.
I'm gonna be that that one person that steps up and announces that they don't actually have a problem with exposing children to this kind of stuff.
When people talk about sheltering them from "violent movies" or "violent video games" I always have to question why? Like, what do you think will actually happen to them? They'll be what, temporarily afraid? Ohhh nooo so terrible, much scare, so protect.
When I was younger my mother was pretty liberal when it came to this stuff and today I'm an extremely brave, creative person with a broad imagination, zero phobias and an ability to remain calm in what would otherwise be a traumatic/frightening experiences.
Things like that are extremely character building. Children that grow up without this kind of stimulation in their lives often end up developing personalities akin to that of cardboard.
Trying to steer your kids away from this kind of stuff is kind of emotional abuse imo because they're gonna grow up thinking the world is sunshine and rainbows right up until reality smacks them in the face like an iron bar and they won't be able to handle it. THAT is exactly how you end end up developing a mental defect.
honestly, I'm more concerned about an eight year old cooking without adult supervision. When I was that age, I tried to make pasta by myself. I ended up dropping a pot of boiling water all over my stomach because it was too heavy.
I just don't see eight year olds and open flames really mixing well.
Honestly I agree. I play L4D and I don't see the big deal with a kid playing it, it's really not that big a deal.
It's funny, when you actually talk to them about it most kids (as in, every child I've spoken to about this stuff) understands that it is just a game, something depicted on the screen that isn't real. If they don't like it then they can stop watching/playing it. I was raised the same way and it didn't bother me at all, I was always given the option to obviously step away from something I didn't care for. When things are placed in the proper context and with explanation/discussion (as need be) kids are really good at understanding things and their place in the world.
said though the cooking thing is a bit troubling. As a very responsible and careful adult I've had a few accidents in the kitchen, it would be a bit scary and potentially a real problem if it were to happen to a kid.
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this girl is beyond saving.
how is she hurting her kids…?
also unless specified then I'd imagine that 'cooking' as far as a kid is concerned means something along the lines of 'I microwaved a thing and made myself a sandwich'
honestly don't see the problem with mittens as much as ghostxperfume.
all I see is a girl who's so pathetically wrapped up in the sympathy she leeches from her followers that she refuses to do anything but anhero via ED. she pins all the blame for her behavior on her mother's 'abuse' but all we have as far as evidence of this 'abuse' is concerned is ashley's own severely warped perspective.
even if she was everything ashley described her to be, if the situation is so bad then she should have even more incentive to get better, find a job, and move the fuck out of their house.
but no, it's too easy to keep complaining, wringing sympathy from a fleet of tumblrinas, having all your meals cooked/bought for you by someone else, having your rent taken care of without ever having to life a finger because you're 'too sick'–Ashley's mom sounds more like an enabler, along with the rest of her supporters, for Ashley to ever get better. it's the only way she knows how to get attention by now. if she recovered, the only 'interesting' quality about her would be her rancid personality and fascination with anime.
plus, imagine being ashley's mom, dealing with her fits and tantrums on a daily basis, seeing your daughter waste herself away out of basic spite…and then, probably after she's dead, finding a tumblr full of posts that direct all the blame for her behavior towards you.
nobody deserves that kind of shit.
Ignoring the cooking, I think the whole situation is pretty damaging to her children. She cant hide her disorder, but she seems to flaunt it a lot, and she cant really know how that affects them down the line when they get to puberty. The whole relationship with a girl who is so much more worse off than her (likely going to die anyday..) while still being with her husband alone will be a lot for children to deal with, and idk how much they are aware of that. The husband has a tumblr so he must be aware of not only the relationship with Ashley but the stuff she posts, which does include her blaming him for her relapse. You have to wonder how aware they are.
It also says a lot that the 8 year old needs to make meals. The husband likely is working since someone has to, and with the mother pretty much unable to do a lot of basic things the 8 year old has to learn faster than a lot would like to be independent.
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Seriously? Does she think people look up to her? God damn, she's delusional.
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Posts like these make me seriously question what exactly she tells her followers is true.
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Christ, this just makes her seem even more delusional with her mom.
I know she's around 26/27 so chances are she was on her mother's insurance. Which the cost is deducted from your parents paycheck, so YES her mom was paying for her insurance.
In the US you are removed from your parents insurance when you are 26, which is why she has to pay out of pocket now.
Ew didn't know that.
I'm not nitpicking the debt tho, just how she tries to seperate herself and act all independent with "her money". If she had insurance and didn't have a job (Obamacare definitely wasn't around for most of her medical treatment and incidents) then her insurance that was still paying for it; is an expense that was deducted from her mother's paycheck until she was 26.
You guys have to keep in mind the way that PT used to make out that her mother was this horrible, demonic, bullying wildebeest and we all believed it until multiple sources cropped up disproving this and actually suggesting that in fact she was an okay mom who just wanted the best for her daughter but was frustrated by her often pointless and stupid choices.
This could all just be bullshit being spewed from a disordered mind.
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It could also be true. A lot of people refuse to believe stories of abuse because they cannot fathom how someone, especially a parent, ESPECIALLY a mother could be that much of a cunt, but it happens even in the best of families and is often a result of mental illness.
You don't have proof her mum is a saint, nor that she's a devil, so there's no point mulling it over either way.
Oh I can fathom, but that's the thing. As someone who came from an abusive household, you get the fuck out of there as soon as you can! People who go through this kind of shit don't stick around only to vent on tumblr. I could see if she was an underage teen who's venting but this woman is in her mid-late 20s.
I know shes way past the point of leaving and surviving on her own now, but she had 8 years to get away from this.
Not the other anon but I'm just mulling over it because it's someone who's already accepted defeat and just wanted to document it when she started tumblr and Instagram.
My mom is a narcissist and dated a pedophile. When my sister and I told her he raped us, she told us she was we were lying, after all, why would he want underdeveloped girls when he had a real woman at his side. She left him a week later.
YEARS later she told us that she knew he did it, but didn't go to the police because it would make her look like a bad mother.
I can't wait until she dies.
I left as soon as I could, I don't get why this girl doesn't either.
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Dang. Is your mom June Shannon?
It's not as uncommon as you might think, it's really sad :/
I've got a friend who had a mom who almost did the same thing. Except she didn't call the police or report it because she wants money from the dad and if he gets thrown in jail he can't give her $$. I love my friend to death but she's messed up from that and rightfully so, she still has to deal with her mother though.
The only reason she left him was because he cheated
on her (with us). Her mind is warped and fucked. She wasn't mad that he raped her daughters, she was mad that he cheated. I mean is it cheating if you rape someone? WTF.
I didn't mean to derail the thread, just putting my two cents out there.
I can't believe being 400lbs+ will give you a disability check but you get shit for being on the verge of dying because you're anorexic.
This fucking country, I swear.
I wish I could help her, I know she sounds like an awful person, but sometimes when people have been abused and broken, they develop claws of steel and use them on everything and everyone.
Oh ya, she gets into rages (a common problem with anorexics) but is generally more level headed and well mannered than most tumblerinas.
Don't worry about derailing, your experience is pretty relevant, she may have gone through something similar you went through, maybe she's doing all this to make her mother pay, iono
E hug anon, you're an amazing and strong person. I know this is nothing but light patterns on a screen, but someone out there, a real person, means it, and will be thinking about you and hoping you rise above what happened.
>>25520>I can't believe being 400lbs+ will give you a disability check but you get shit for being on the verge of dying because you're anorexic.
this, a thousand times THIS
Why can't she get disability? can an american anon explain this? Anywhere else she'd either be in a treatment facility, a mental ward or have at least financial support and a counsellor.
She is on disability; that's how she can keep buying shit and shipping out packages every damn day even though she talks insistently about how broke her mom is.
You definitely can claim disability here in the states when you have anorexia, the thing is the process is exactly the same as anyone else who applies for it; it takes fucking forever and you may need to do it multiple times before it's approved.
As for why she isn't in a treatment facility, I couldn't tell you since I don't know her personally or anything, but I'd imagine it's because she absolutely refuses her mom has given up. I do know, because she said this on her tumblr, that she has a care team and a counselor.
As someone who used to suffer from a combination of anorexia and bulimia, I agree with you about the part where anorexics want people to pay attention to them, they want someone to take care of them, perhaps they even want to make someone who was wronged them feel bad.
What I think you don't realise however is that it's not something people just decide one day to do. It's an observable disorder with biochemical causes that has been long outlined in medical literature across the world. It's not something someone just decides to do just because they're a whiny cunt.
It's like being on drugs all the time. It causes you to be paranoid, lightheaded, afraid of everyone and everything, it makes you feel hideous, it makes you do completely insane things that at the time make sense.
These are mentally ill people, and as much as I welcome you linking a personality disorder such as narcissism or hpd to anorexia, just saying 'they do it for attention' is not really helpful. Ashley needs help, just like a schizo or a person with OCD need help, so she can become a useful member of society.
Although at her point organ damage is imminent, the damage is irreversible, so even if she gains weight she doesn't have long to live. I think she's just waiting to die.
you should check out 'whinorexics' usually young women or teenage girls who are slim or skinny and pretend to have anorexia (or delude themselves that they have it) for attention.
These aren't actual anorexics. Smeghmeh (not sure if I spelt that right) is an example of a whineorexics. She's skinny, but takes photos specifically to make it seem worse, even paints bags under her eyes.
This 100%. Same as other anons, I grew up in a very abusive household, my dad being the main instigator of all this stuff (he was mentally and physically abusive). Ever since I was very young I would always say to myself that as soon as it was physically possible I was leaving and never speaking to them ever again. I tried to spend as much time away from home as physically possible, I stayed in my friend's house most days of the week.
I'm 22 now and haven't spoken to my dad since I was 16. I have never been happier being away from such a damaging house, I am allowed to feel happy and not have to be surrounded by constant screaming, shouting and having panic/anxiety attacks because you knew shit was going to go down every single day, you just sat around waiting for "the reason" for the house to be smashed up.
I can't imagine how someone could claim to live with someone so awful, horrible and abusive and willingly stay there. I can't understand it. Your constant thoughts are that everything will be better if you leave, that is your goal. It is the thing that gives you hope. That it will be over someday. You will do anything to achieve it, even if it's difficult.
No one in their right mind stays there. No one.
Some people definitely do it for attention. But I don't think that's the majority. I have had many friends with EDs and to be fair they have just been very messed up people in general (lying about having cancer (yes, really), being overly sexually promiscuous (not because she enjoyed sex but because she liked attention/being desired), tricking men into falling in love with her and then breaking up with them in horrible ways to hurt them)… all these from different people I've known with EDs. There is something wrong with them. They are ill.
>He has never seen an independent person with an eating disorder.
My ex best friend was an independent person with an ED. She never brought it up, she never burdened anyone else with it even when she was B/Ping everyday for weeks on end. She never relied on anyone else to help or fix her. She started off overweight and then became underweight. She just wanted to be liked and accepted. She had gotten harassed/bullied many times growing up and she snapped I guess. It was actually the opposite of wanting attention, she wanted to be left alone.
Assuming she isn't lying about her mother, it seems as if the abuse is insidious little comments and barbs that are less dramatic (excluding the fact that she also helped her daughter develop an eating disorder and probably fucks with her self esteem).
I think with more…dramatic (for lack of a better word) and explosive abuse (as you suffered, and I'm sorry for that) people are a lot more willing and able to get up and go. But the emotional abuse combined with their possibly mutual issues regarding food and self esteem makes me think it's one of those abusive relationships where people are just stuck together and can't quit each other. Plus if her mother is that manipulative I have to think she has all sorts of mind tricks to keep her daughter there, and the ED is just making it worse.
In some ways he's right. I suffered from bulimia and anorexia at different times during my teens and while this doesn't describe me, it does describe some of the girls I met.
I did ballet seriously, had strict teachers that started policing our weight at about 13. I had a perfect body but got paranoid that I was going to be told to lose weight, this grew into bulimia by 14. Nothing for attention or anything, I just wanted to be able to dance without get pulled over after class and told I need to stop eating as much. Funnily enough, when I managed to get some sort of hold on this at 16, I put on enough weight recovering to be called over after class and given a diet plan.
During this time one of my friends noticed that people were talking about how I must be anorexic cause I was so skinny and I never ate in front of people (had a why eat if you're not gunna binge mentality). Suddenly she decides she's anorexic and starts flaunting her fake ED, all the while, not losing more than 3kg the entire 6 months she did it. Another one of my friends followed her but ended up falling into legitimate anorexia. Served her right for pretending to have a serious mental disorder for attention.
My anorexia was something I was in the depths of when I moved out of home for the first time. Aside from the ED, I was a normally functioning human who was desperate to hide that she was in any way sick and even deluded herself into thinking wasn't actually anorexic. I got scouted for modelling (I'd stopped ballet by now for various reasons and had gone back to what I weighed post-bulimia) but got told I had to lose 15lb or so before they'd do anything with me. My desperation to start working faster and my history with bulimia cause my plan of losing the weight healthily to go out the window. I only became dependant again and moved back home once just how ill I was hit me and needed my parents to help me through recovery.
Sorry for the life story, it's just not all anorexics/bulimics (ha)are doing it for attention. One reason many girls do end up with an ED though is because they're scared of growing up and starving allows them to get rid of their womanly features, these types are legitimate sufferers but do fall into the needy, selfish type your dad is aware of.
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Life must be hell for her. I heard that anorexics have a hard time sitting or laying down due to having no protective fat cushion. But I also wonder how the hell is she still able to walk around or even keep herself up for more than a few seconds?? There's zero muscle, and so much damage to her body, how des this work? How is she still alive, after all this time and in this condition?
This is so fucking scary. I feel sorry for her.
I think she uses a wheelchair most of the time, but then gets up briefly for photos etc.
But yeah, still surprised she's still alive, same as everyone else.
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>>25564>I think she's just waiting to die.
That's exactly what she's doing, anon.
Most people don't do it for attention, definitely not. Most girls do it out of insecurity that spirals out of control and lack of people who are supportive, which turns into depression and an ED.
I've heard of an 8yo girl who suffered from anorexia. It was terrifying.
For a lot of them it seems to stem out of this obsession with being skinny and petite. The attention whoring is just… well, a lot of teenage girls do it, it's definitely a part of growing up for a lot of people whether they like to admit it or not. Faking an illness to have someone take care of you isn't really alarming, just annoying, until they get out of hand of course but I think a lot of them are just so starved for positive attention that they resort to such things.
Yeah… I think she really is just waiting to die. I've been there once with a combination of anorexia and bulimia, but hid it from everyone. It was just my way of trying to commit suicide since I felt I deserved to suffer since everyone close to me abused me so much, maybe I deserved it because of how badly I was treated.
Anyway, that was years ago. I really do hope this girl can get some help… I genuinely feel sad for her, I feel like crying.
I don't know, I've seen tons of girls do it for attention, or repeatedly imply disordered eating for attention. It's not normal for people to be complete attention whores (so I'm sorry if you had to grow up around such people), and faking illnesses is a shitty thing to do (so again, sorry if you grew up around such fuckheads to think it's common or normal).
Some girls don't even really have the disordered eating necessarily, they just imply they do and then (as someone else upthread mentioned), try to make themselves look thinner and weaker than they really are for their profiles.
I'm not denying that eating disorders can't exist on their own, they do, but I do think a lot of self destructive behaviors can be for the purpose of getting attention and ED related stuff is now among them.
She needs to be reported I think, her mom doesn't give a fuck so she doesn't call the proper channels.
She is completely and totally mentally unstable, there's just no way any sane person would willingly starve themselves to the point she's at right now.
She's going to die.
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Reminds me of concentration camp liberation photos from ww2.
I just want to take her home and feed her, how does her own mother not cry every time she looks at this emaciated shell of her daughter?
actually yeah. when you've reached that point, if you suddenly eat something rich it can make your body go into shock and you die. haven't you heard of the soldiers giving jews candy bars and other foods to jews after freeing them from the concentration camps only to have them die because their bodies couldn't handle food that complex?
a person who's been starved like that needs to be slowly given simple foods, very small portions at a time, though frequently, until they are able to handle something more. half their organs aren't working properly any more, a hunk of fatty beef in a stew would fuck her up all to hell.
Indeed, they're only able to eat very small portions, all that happens if they eat too much is that they will throw up. If they eat a lot frequently after not having eaten anything they can have severe gastrointestinal problems, which combined with their alread pitiful state can put them in 'shock' and kill them.
Thank you for the info about the jews being given candy bars, I legit did not know about that. I'm still sceptical about the candy being outright deadly to them.
The 'complexity' of the foods they eat isn't an issue because they have the same enzymes and stomach acids as we do to break down their foods. The body doesn't "forget" what to do with a complex carbohydrate.
Iono I'm just not convinced a beef stew would kill an anorexic, can anyone else weigh in on this?
nope. they can have a heart attack and die.
its called "refeeding syndrome"
>During prolonged fasting the body aims to conserve muscle and protein breakdown by switching to ketone bodies derived from fatty acids as the main energy source. The liver decreases its rate of gluconeogenesis thus conserving muscle and protein. Many intracellular minerals become severely depleted during this period, although serum levels remain normal. Importantly, insulin secretion is suppressed in this fasted state and glucagon secretion is increased.
>During refeeding, insulin secretion resumes in response to increased blood sugar; resulting in increased glycogen, fat and protein synthesis. This process requires phosphates, magnesium and potassium which are already depleted and the stores rapidly become used up. Formation of phosphorylated carbohydrate compounds in the liver and skeletal muscle depletes intracellular ATP and 2,3-diphosphoglycerate in red blood cells, leading to cellular dysfunction and inadequate oxygen delivery to the body's organs. Refeeding increases the basal metabolic rate. Intracellular movement of electrolytes occurs along with a fall in the serum electrolytes, including phosphate, potassium and magnesium. Glucose, and levels of the B1 vitamin thiamine may also fall. Cardiac arrhythmias are the most common cause of death from refeeding syndrome, with other significant risks including confusion, coma and convulsions and cardiac failure.
>This syndrome can occur at the beginning of treatment for anorexia nervosa when patients have an increase in calorie intake and can be lethal. The shifting of electrolytes and fluid balance increases cardiac workload and heart rate. This can lead to acute heart failure. Oxygen consumption is also increased which strains the respiratory system and can make weaning from ventilation more difficult.
basically their insulin freaks the fuck out and they go into a coma / have a heart attackhttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Refeeding_syndrome
because at any time she could fucking change. this is a self-inflicted state.
but she's very clearly made her choice to die instead.
I don't feel sorry for people who commit suicide. That's their own choice. if they found their situation in life unbearable to withstand but were too lazy or stupid to figure out how to escape it, well, they probably weren't improving the gene pool anyways.
like seriously, in her condition? she could start a kickstarter or some shit probably and raise enough sympathy cash to move out of her mom's place, if her family is really that awful. but she won't. she thrives on the negative attention she receives on behalf of her condition.
I think you're probably bait, but people like this are ridiculous.
What you're conveniently forgetting is that if you're already depressed it's very, very hard to dig yourself out of that hole and make any steps toward changing their situation. People who are depressed enough to think about killing themselves feel like there's no escape. That's actually one of the warning signs that someone is suicidal. She probably doesn't have the energy to do much, either, seeing as she's practically a walking skeleton at this point.
8/8, I replied
I don't know, I don't see this as so different from someone who is morbidly obese. Yes, you see this type of self destructive behavior as a result of mental illness but at the same time, it is up the individual to pull themselves out of it.
I do think she is suicidal and this is her way of killing herself, hasn't she basically admitted to that already? At a certain point it really is up to individual choice.
The most obvious difference between obesity and anorexia is the thought behind it. Anorexia is more pre-meditated. It arises from the desire to be thin most of the time, which is not something you achieve immediately as opposed to eating which is instantly gratifying. Anorexics are sacrificing the feeling of immediate satisfaction in order to gain a greater feeling of accomplishment later down the road. They hurt themselves in order to fulfill a mental need. Fat people are fulfilling a physical craving. They feel good when they eat, which numbs the discomfort and disgust with their appearance. They will sit around instead of exercising because they get the instant fix of lazing about all day. The guilt kicks in after the fact but can be continually covered up by more eating.
The two are complete opposites. They both have similar effects; the sense of well-being and satisfaction for the anorexic is more of an indirect result. For the obese, the feeling of disappointment or remorse is also an indirect result that comes along further down the road.
The difference is much like 1st or 2nd degree murder; one is pre-meditated and the other is acting based on emotion.
Someone who commits pre-meditated murder can be considered psychotic but most of the time it's just accepted that they were just "not a good person". That's why anorexia is so looked down on and discouraged, while obesity is more easily forgiven. But our society has begun to cater to these people as well. It's corrupt.
I agree with >>27750
to this degree. Most people who commit suicide are in fact beyond helping. But then there are those who have a disorder and deserve to be treated because they have so much to give the world. I knew someone like this and unfortunately the person did commit suicide and I would never think for one moment that they deserved it or it was even their choice. It was the mental illness and society is too pre-occupied with feeding attention whores and victim-fetishists like Orange Citrus that they can't even see a real, genuine psychological disorder for what it is; sad and tragic and entirely treatable…if given the right care.
SJW tumblr shit is just hurting the significantly ill more than anything. No one even takes people seriously when they come out about their disordered feelings and thoughts. Society feeds off of turning someone's misfortune into a front-page selling point.
I didn't grow up around those people, I am talking about faking being sick to get out of chores/homework which a lot of children do. I did it.
And I don't know if I'd still call that attention whoring, these days anyone who DARES ask for attention in a negative or positive way is labelled an attention whore and it's not as simple as that. People don't just do things to get noticed like that, there's usually an ulterior motive.
For these girls I don't think it's attention, it's either insecurity or wanting to be special and unique like all the other self-diagnosed tumblrinas. But this girl doesn't seem to be one of them, her issue is very real.
Your view on this is very simplistic, you're basically implying people with eds are attention whores and no other option is possible, which is just bullshit.
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yeah, depression is hard to get out of once you're in the thick of it. that doesn't justify resigning yourself to suicide. most likely, a large part of this girl's depression can be directly attributed to her environment, but she's decided that she's incapable of escaping it (even though escape is literally at her fingertips) and would rather die in one of the most excruciatingly drawn-out processes ever. if she really wanted to end her life, taking sleeping pills with a glass of wine would be much easier. the method she's chosen is simply to make a spiteful statement.
depression's not a 'hole' that you have to live in the rest of your life, esp. when your condition is at the point of garnering such strong reactions from total strangers, as this thread demonstrates. you CAN get help. we've all got our demons, but very few people allow themselves to self-destruct over them.
if Ashley was actually trying to recover from her ED I'd have all the sympathy in the world for her, but I don't see any evidence that she wants to.
I didn't mean depression was something you had to live with for the rest of your life, just that it's pretty hard for people to work up the motivation to bounce back, but I see where you're coming from.
I dunno. Maybe at this point she knows she's probably damaged her organs beyond repair? I wonder when the last time she saw a doctor was.
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cringing the fuck out
Ugh, me too. My grandpa was born without a nail on one of his thumbs and I almost lost a toenail after my other grandpa accidentally stepped on it with his workboots, so it's not an unusual nightmare for me.
Severe vitamin deficiency can cause you to lose your nails. So can going into space, apparently. Either way, you can take comfort in knowing that your nail will probably grow back; it just might not look exactly the same as before.
D-did she mean fake nails? Like >>28293
said, she'd have a vitamin deficiency if not.
no, it got cancelled after 14 seasons. :(
But I agree, she's getting out of hand. Something needs to be done. This is too much.
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How much do you guys think she weighs?
I have no idea how she even holds herself up…
, it appears that the thing to do would be to contact the Adult Protective Services for the Orlando area here: https://reportabuse.dcf.state.fl.us/
You can file a report online and don't have to provide a phone number. I didn't submit anything because I feel like I don't know nearly enough about the situation (I haven't been following any of this very closely) and wouldn't be able to answer followup questions.
So if someone else who has a better idea of what's happening with her wants to take the time to do this, that would be fantastic.
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welp, that relationship with >>21817
I also want to add to your post:
Eating disorders are not always related to wanting to lose weight or be a certain weight. They are often times the byproduct of another underlying mental condition.
I've suffered from a fear of throwing up since I was a small child. As a result of this, I restricted my eating because in my mind I thought "well, if I don't eat anything, then I can't ever throw up." Doctors did not believe me when I told them I did not want to lose weight and that it had nothing to do with self-image. It actually was not until years later that I realized what exactly was causing it, but thankfully by that point I was eating again.
It sucks though, because I will often times find myself slightly reverting back to that behavior and it freaks me out.
I understand how you feel, anon. Ever since I was a kid I've been terrified of throwing up. I ended up struggling to eat a single meal a day out of fear that I'd vomit and when I did eat I felt like I would. I ended up dropping 50+ pounds from this. It was probably the most miserable year of my life. The only plus was I stopped being a fatty-chan.
Sorry for the ~mememe~ blog post, but it feels great to come across someone with a similar issue.
supporting this. Also emetophobic here but not related to ED (that only really makes me not want to eat in restaurants). My ED was caused by OCD, not really because I wanted to lose weight but because my routines made it really difficult to eat without triggering bad panic attacks, so I was about 34kg (I am a migit so its not that bad).
Later I did develop a real ED after majoritively beating my OCD and being able to eat again, after not eating so long I ended up getting chubs pretty fast, tho that point it a bit moot ATM.
Went from 32kg - 48kg - 42kg
What's her twitter yo?
Thank you anon, don't you dare worry about what anyone here says. You did the right thing, it's the humane thing to do. I really wanted to report her myself, but know literally nothing about her private life (address, anything that I could give the social worker that could lead them to her).
I kept watching in horror, and I don't want to watch someone kill themselves, even if it's in slow motion.
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Yep. I'm pretty sure authorities contacted her mom somehow. And her deleting her tumblr only re-enforces the theory that she was probably exaggerating about her mom. Maybe she deleted it to erase all evidence?
I agree. I can sleep a little easier knowing it has been reported, even though in all probability it won't help her.
If there's even a minute remote chance that she can be saved by this, then that's enough justificatoon to have done it.
Agreed. It just means her mum made her delete her stuff or she did so in a rage, either way, she's not in a hospital bed.
I like to hope she's in a safe place where she happens to have wifi internet on her phone or whatever, but that's probably not what happened.
They had to have seen pictures, ffs I'll report her again and send them pictures if someone tells me how I can go about getting info on where she lives. I don't want her to get doxed (if she hasn't already).
They have to see her, they have to, then they'll feel as horrified as we do.
FUCK HER MOM
I think the issue is the process of forcing someone to be in the hospital. Anyone can see she is very ill, but if she refuses to get help, what can they do? They need to be able to get around that and force her. Which requires either having someone get medical rights to her, or have her seen as medically unfit to make her own choices.
I dont know how much those options require the mother to care and take part. If we go with the assumption that mother is abusive, then that is another obstacle or go around.
Also being in the hospital does not mean she will get better. A lot of anorexic girls die while in treatment programs.
new tumblr: http://sealed-up-tight.tumblr.com/
Don't jump the horse yet and start sending her asks. I want to see what she says about the issue.
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From emergencymittens. Oh, please.
She's obviously really sick and I do feel really bad and want her to get help. I understand why she feels victimized – most people do when they have convinced themselves that they are getting better on their own time when they really aren't.
Maybe one day she will realize that it came from a good place…
I do wonder if this more or less confirms that she perhaps exaggerated about her mom, though.
I wonder if her mother will still try and keep her home 'No officer she's perfectly fine, just a little on the slim side."
If this were my child she'd be dragged to hospital whether she liles it or not. She needs to live. Fuck her mum for lett8ng her die.
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I understand not liking someone taking your URL, but she is being overly dramatic in my opinion
>you tainted it
What? It sounds like the anon is willing to return it if she wanted it back too.
>That URL was my existence
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You're not alone. It unsettles me when I see her post things like this. It's sad to know she's going to puke all those donuts and all those candies people buy her.
well, if the refeeding shock stuff people were saying abovethread is applicable, keeping it down would probably kill her.
I wonder if she gets a rush out of constantly skirting around the edge of death.
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I really don't get why she deleted her old tumblr if she's doing everything the same on her new one, even watermarking her new photos too.
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She used to be a camwhore on 4chan called hamtaro-chan. She did the whole crack make up shit and nudes.
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How'd you find this? I've always wanted to know what she looked like before.
Comments in this vid sound like she had a suicide attempt way back 7 years ago perhaps? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hV6V6Rq-ZhQ
I wonder if she gets children freaking out when they see her, she is literally a walking skeleton.>>29259
Underneath the shitty makeup and the "I hate the popular girls" haircut she looks like she used to be pretty cute. So sad.
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Screencap from her video.
Megacon is in Orlando, FL. Anorexia. I guess it's pretty likely?
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Hard to read.
Fuck, that's definitely her. Her voice is scratchier now, but it's her. Her mannerisms are kind of the same as well, which is weird considering how old the video is.
She had vlogs on her old tumblr and instagram. Unfortunately they're gone now, or I'd link them.
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there is resemblance
Holy shit she was so cute. Did she have an ED page or something similar at this stage?
I feel bad for her though. It's obvious she kinda grew up on the internet, and on a nasty place like 4chan. I'm not saying that's entirely to blame but I can't see it really having any positive effects on her life.
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Okay so I found a dA account from 2007-ish. I wanna know what went down on /b/. I'm assuming she was doxxed or something. http://emptyxattic.deviantart.com/>>29302https://myspace.com/atticus_is_lost
(her old myspace I linked above)
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yeah, I don't think it was a proper doxxing. A quick search on a 4chan archive shows she pretty much just disappeared. (Whatever happened to hamtaro chan etc) Some tripfag on r9k has a few posts about her.
Also just found an archive of her pics. N00dz and all. (Tho I feel like I should delete those..)
Never mind – found it.
Here's the archive of all ghostxperfume/sealed-up-tight/hamtaro-chan's pictures and videos.
[LINK DELETED DUE TO UNDERAGED NUDES]
Welp, must've missed that. She was 17 then so I'll just get rid of those.>>29323
Torrent is dead though.
Huh, seems like a few years ago she didn't hate her mom.
Also, correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't she say her mom always had an eating disorder too? Cause if the person driving her to disney world is her mom then I'm really confused.
They both have extreme ED and are narcissists. Her mom loss weight, dyed her hair blonde, and took a loan out for tit implants.
I'm guessing the 6 years shes been gone from the Internet was the time her mom started "dieting."
Niggas I am anorexic too, it's just dumb when people see pictures of girls pre-whatever fucked up condition they have, like pictures of Pixyteri before she got even more fat and delusional, and go "OMG SOOOOO PRETTY, CAN'T BELIEVE HOW BEAUTIFUL", and it's like, nah man, PT was always fat and ugly, you's just less fatter and less uglier than she is now, exactly the same as this chick.
If she looked like this state today instead of the mess she is now, you'd all be scrutinising her "box body" or her "witches nose".
I honestly think she's cute. She had a cutely chubby heart shaped face, nice eyes, a perfect nose imo, and nicely shaped lips. But to each their own.
I hope you get better though. Best of luck.
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>hasn't even looked at the name of this board
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If this is true, her mom did influence her ED
Just so we don't drag this any further, Pixyteri.
There. Now let's keep this shit on topic.
her mom is in this video here:http://youtu.be/V4b4vkQEq0o?list=UUxtWbNvy7dPUVGeLlX0SmYQ
and judging by that video, it seems she was absent from the internet for over a year and states how her anorexia got worse. I wonder if she was in treatment at this time?
there is absolutely nothing wrong with her nose, at least when she was a semi-normal weight. The only thing "bad" about her was her shitty makeup.
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judging by her hiatus from the internet for a year (as stated in one of her videos) I think her mom actually did force her to go into treatment while she was still underage.
But once she reached 18, she was able to refuse intensive treatment.
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To explain her make up to any true newfag- Ashley was a camgirl in 2007, right? She was more than likely paying homage to The original Queen of /b/, Cracky Chan. (pic related)
that's exactly what happened. she said so herself in >>22045 >"I've dismissed too many opportunities to regain any sort of "success" in my eyes…"
also in that bunny pic she said the following:>"The little guy that’s kept me company after every hospitalization,
after every re-feeding…" not to mention the times she's mentioned going to her therapist.
she's definitely been getting help, she just doesn't want to get better.
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Off topic but I wonder how the original Cracky-chan is doing. Anyone got anything? A thread about old time *chan camgirls (before Boxxy, etc.) would be interesting as well…
Pic sort of related except even better, it's BIKECAT. Still my favorite internet cat tbh.
wtf? why would they do that
so it's someone who lurks here then?
I want to say, "Oh lel this is some good stuff better settle in and pop some popcorn" but knowing just how fragile Ashley is, this may send her over the deep end.
Shit is indeed about to hit the fan, sir.
Someone sent this thread to the ghost perfume ask box but they deleted it after a while because of the risqué pictures.
I don't think it is her. I think is someone trying to leach of the followers
You'll bully other mentally fragile people but just because you can physically see this girls fucked up this is too far? What a hypocritical and hilarious stance. Push all these girls, mock them, deride them for their life choices and looks but when you can see the pain someone suffers only then it's too much?
You all need to look at yourself, you're either in this for quasi-psychopathic thrills or deluded. Also, /r/ in chansluts for more. I just wanted to see what would happen..
personally, I feel like Ashley's dug her own hole.
she'll either anhero or grow up a little.
and if the former, it's not like the world's suffering a great loss.
she's intentionally ruined her own life, why are we pretending it's a shame if she ends it? her only effect on the world has been posting some horrifying selfies and draining her mother's bank account.
if you pity her, you're only giving her exactly the response that she wanted.
nah, she wants attention, she isn't giving up her anorexia.
Also even if she somehow magically became 100% healthy, she would have to come to realization that she is 24, an adult, and tackle all responsibilities adulthood brings.
What I've noticed she still basically does the same things she did when she was a teenager (shopping at target, trips to disneyland etc).
In a way, her ED enables her to stay a teen.
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You're not welcome
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A quick image search just left me with even more questions…
A day or so before she dumped her Ghostxperfume blog, she seemed clearly upset by someone "betraying her trust" and being a "compulsive liar" around her. Ashley also mentioned she was extremely tempted to out this person's lies but held back for some reason.
It really could of been any of her friends, but from the sound of it; it sounded like someone very close to her. The only person I ever saw her mention a lot was Erika since November and how much she loves her… so I guess it's easy to assume it's Erika, but there's no way for certain to tell for sure except for circumstance and coincidence.
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I found this on 4chan a couple of days ago o: the thread was about Ashley and a dude started posting pics of Erika, but nobody seemed to care, everybody was focused in Ashley
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I saved the old ashley vids in case she deletes them.
Shit, that's my hometown too.
I considered asking her to meet up, but she's significantly older than I am, and she'd probably think it weird to meet some random girl she'd never spoken to before.
Regarding current events, it's going to be a bit difficult to because there's no real evidence of why Ashley deleted her last blog and why Erika deleted her current blog.
It could be either:
1. Both of them may of got reported to authorities and are pretty mad about that. Whereas Ashley has decided to delete vids/photos in an attempt to start over again but it would certainly be more difficult for Erika to do that, because children are involved…
2. Ashley possibly knows of this thread and in turn showed it to Erika. Erika may of seen the photos posted of her in her underwear last night and may of been triggered by the responses to photos she didn't want seeing getting exposure.
3: They're both had a logical moment of clarity where they realize their relationship isn't helping one another.
It's really hard to say so far. :-/
We're all sociopaths here. None of us really care about getting anyone help, we just want to see what drama will come out of the attempts to do so.
As it happens, divorcing Erica from Ashley would add even more drama, because we'd see Erica improving and Ashley getting even worse. So even wishing for Erica to improve feeds our sadistic glee.
Reversing that image reveals http://homemadecuties.com/my-suicide-gf/punk-couple/hankshoneys.html
So it seems like she posted these pics to /b/ back in 2008-2009.
I don't have any experience regarding sexual-abuse, but is it not unusual for victims to post sexual images everywhere for the world to see?
I presumed you'd be more careful of that sort of thing?
Nuhuh, I'm more than certain she's mentioned plenty of times before that she wasn't previously either.
That moment when you realize you caught a couple of lolcows too late, and have now deleted everything.
Okay, gotcha. The way she described the whole reproduction experience though was oddly clinical, like it wasn't a happy memory and quite boring.
But you're right, maybe it's just her health issues talking there.
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There you go.
She's acknowledged this thread and deleted all her pictures
What's the next stage guys. Are you going to bombard the internet with what you already saved. Or do you feel like you've won now?
You sound like such a shit person, even by lolcow standards>It's hot to think about having that much power over a pathetic little thing.
Unless you're implying camwhoring on /b/ caused her ED, that's bullshit too
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She's definitely seen this thread. I only feel bad for Erika. She got dragged into this mess.
I'm gonna go ahead and be "that" guy and say I HATE it when people refer to teen nudes as "child porn".
Let's be real, a girl of the age of 15-17, they're not children. A child is typically described as being between the ages of around 5-14 years old. At 17 years old you're no longer dictionary definition of child, you're a young teen bordering on young adult and you know exactly what you're fucking doing. She knew exactly what she was fucking doing but of course due to her age, that doesn't necessarily make her any less retarded.
Stop calling it child porn, it's not child porn and it's actually super fucking harmful to the way society looks at and treats actual, legit child pornography involving real real, actual children.
Semi-related, I just stumbled across an erotic photography website featuring anorexic women.
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You shouldn't skip your meds, paranoid-ephebo-chan.
Anyone else think he sounds like he has a micropenis?
If you're that pathetic that you get off on someone else's destroyed life because it gives you a feeling of power you're obviously pretty pathetic IRL.
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>This entire thread
Hahaha fuck, what makes you think I'm a tumblrina? You totally pulled that out your arse
I could believe 1 in 10 guys have small dongs, yes.
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These comments are disgusting. This shit is actually even more disturbing to me than fat fetishists
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For those curious, this is the girl the commenter called "fat"
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So where does this girl get the money to do this but whines about her mom not buying her groceries so she can binge and purge on?
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this is ashley's poodle…. gross.
If she doesn't play the "poor me, my mom is extremely unstable and abusive" card, she becomes less interesting.
Same thing with Shmegeh. She'd just be an average person without an ED or without all these personal problems. That said, Shmegeh has at least admitted she's an alcoholic.
She whines that her mom spends money on booze instead of food, yet Ashley blows money on kawaii desu bullshit. Plus she binges, so her mom is having to spend way more on groceries than if Ashley ate like a normal person. She's a money pit.
Maybe her mom IS a cunt. A cunt that provides room and board for her adult daughter, but a cunt nonetheless. That doesn't mean Ashley isn't a massive bitch for expecting her mom to spend her own hard-earned money on food that Ashley will immediately waste.
She's codependent as fuck and doesn't have the decency to be grateful for the people that put up with her.
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Get the hint
Man, things like that are so stupid.
My whole life doesn't revolve around Ashley, and I don't hate her. I simply take a few minutes to enjoy reading about all the stupid shit she does and look at her pictures. I'm pretty sure it's the same with everyone here. Like someone else said, we're just the people rubbernecking at a car crash as we drive by, before speeding back up and moving on to our next destination. But it's pure, unadulterated narcissism to think that laughing at someone secretly means that our existence centres around them.
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She receives enough money from her mother if she can do shit like this
I remeber that post being the one where I became disgusted with her as a person. I suffer from Anorexia with bulimic tendencies, too and to just post her binge food like that and add cutesy images and acting like that. Idk
I know many say 'oh that's a way for her to cope with it. it makes the illness less traumatic for her etc' but it's a terrifyng illness and such behaviour is gross.
Yeah, there's no need to take photos of the food and show off.
I'm guessing the binging and purging is a compulsion but even so, bragging about it is lame.
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From the Felice Fawn thread, one of Ashley's older posts.
My best guess is a combination of her father not being present→ camwhores for that missing male attention→ something fucked up must've happened (I read on somewhere that a lot of the ex 4chan camwhores are really fucked up now).
I also followed her and remembered her making a post about how when she was a small child she was afraid to poop. The dr. Told her mom that her butthole was unusually irritated or something. So she was alluding to sexual abuse, but who knows by whom. It's just strange because even though she was an ~emo tween~ she was still pretty vibrant (see her youtube vids).
But if someone had cancer and by their own free will wasn't getting help for it you WOULD tell them that
I'm so confused jfc how can they think that's a logical argument?
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So I just saw this. Shit has erupted.
There was definitely a thirst for attention/adoration there, but it was fortunately overridden by a sense of self-preservation. These girls seem to lack that, as well as any hope for a future for themselves like >>30840
said. I doubt any of the active /b/ camwhores came from a happy home or were mentally healthy and it doesn't surprise me they ended up in a bad place.
why have they hashtagged emergency mittens tho?
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She's back and somehow thinner.
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>>31010>if anyone stares, it's obv because we're mad gorgeous
So she knows she looks absolutely disgusting to other people but she doesn't care because she loves the attention. I see.
She acts like one of those 2006 11 year old wannabe scene kids. Just the way she types and the "deep" captions she spits out says it all. She's just all around a really stupid and ignorant person.
not if it means deteriorating my health to a fatal state. seriously, if i saw this girl in person i would fucking throw up. i feel bad for anyone who's had to see her out in public, especially young children.
she's so inappropriate.
Didn't last 3 days without attention on instagram>>31031
If i needliterally destroy my body and look like a 105 year old grandpa in my twenties just to receive some free kawaii shit I don't actually need from strangers on the internet who pity me, then I refuse.
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She didn't want it up because of us
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So this girl has an ED too, apparently. I guess Ashley didn't latch onto her like she did with Erika because she isn't thin at all.
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When I look up hypodermicutopia, I find this. Florida matches up, and the age seems to fit. I'll see if I can find anything more later when I'm not on my phone, but if anyone else wants to start it up, go for it.
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Don't bother doxing her. She's not causing any trouble.
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From the blog yoy posted
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>last edited: 20 december 2014
She's onto us, save her shit while you can!
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This girl was so nice and good to ashley! And it just proves that she is mentally unbalanced! If she talks this way and says those kind of hurtful things to someone who was her "friend" I know her mom is probably the nicest person EVER. She is just completely delusional. Sad sad.
Holy fucking shit.
I feel SO sorry for Erika and ash's mom.
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>>31133>"I've done nothing but try to help you and make you happy, even driving you to buy food to binge and purge even though it makes me worried and sick"
Good god. I'm repulsed beyond belief. How can a person be this selfish?
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Fuck off, Ashley. You're a prick and you don't need to pretend to act like you're a random anon in the thread. If you're going to act like you're someone else while defending yourself, at least learn to type without those fucking dashes. As usual, your grammar is terribad.
It's her private Instagram. If ashley is so adamant about ppl being allowed to post what they want, then she can't harp on about Gia posting the TRUTH.
Do you see how rabid Ashley's infantile followers are? They won't listen to reason, so they will go after her if. She was just trying to show how she's not the villain and how ashley isn't this innocent victim.
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No one else types like this.
I found you nigga
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>>31227>omg dinner is done- where was I at on lolcow
was that even english? ashley you need a dictionary seriously. nice jew nose by the way.
>>31177>All to Gia's needs and wants.
Did you read the texts, though?
Not only did she take forever to delete the picture, she made it all about herself, and even though the girl didn't want to be part of the drama she still got sucked into it, just some posts above where people were trying to dig for her info.
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I just saw this on the comments. Honestly, I am surprised she talks shit about Erika. She's got a creepy obsession with her.
You're hurting people, Ashley. If you want to hurt and kill yourself, fine; it's your decision. But to trigger and manipulate people who are desperately trying to recover for your own selfish reasons?
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Lol i love this i made one too. Alien in my pocket.
I have no idea what this says. Are you a native English speaker? I'm confused.
But thanks for shitting up the thread with that awful post.
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You're still here ash? They were saying you have a big nose you retard. You don't need to cry about it with your shit grammar.
That anon was talking about this phrase:
>omg dinner is done- where was I at on lolcow
Which was nothing else but some dipshit trying to make fun of people in this thread. That's it, nothing else.
And the jew nose comment isn't a meme either, Jesus Christ.
You guys should stop fucking this thread up with this retarded shit. If you don't understand the way someone words their shit then deal with it.
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Wahwahwah… Lol @ her bottom comment.
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>>31267>And the jew nose comment>comment
let's just move past this okay? okay.
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I could pick apart all of the hypocrisy in these and both of you would still be raging about how the people in this thread are "tards". Do us all a favor and leave then with your shitty logic.
Round of applause for this badass right here.>>31274
How does she seem insecure?
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we know. >>31242
already stated that you were talking about the dinner thing. you are literally going apeshit over nothing.>>31253
again, lurk more before posting.
you're literal trash for supporting this fuckery. at least check your shit before calling others stupid when you're pretty autistic yourselves.
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Whoaoaoa watch out we got an internet tough guy over here
Babby's first day on lolcow
There's only one, and it's all confirmed to be Ashley.
Might be one of her loyal little poodles here too, but I doubt it.
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What a pity. This poor girl got sucked into an abusive relationship with Ashley so easily.
I could've worn I saw a screenshot on here just now with it, but it's fluffykittenandbunnies . She commented on Ashley's photo.>>31316
I doubt she's jealous. She obviously doesn't want the negative attention associated with Ashley. I don't really see what she could be jealous of. She's recovering and seems to be doing well with her life. IMO, I think her putting it up on her private IG made it at least a little better than blasting it out to the whole world of IG and even hashtagging it or something. Regardless, we get to see how much more immature and selfish Ashley is.
I started to follow Ashley one year ago. First I felt pity for her, wanted her to recover etc, but when she started to post shit like this >>30771
I couldn't help to completely stop feeling pity for her and it pissed me off so hard and I knew she was a spoiled bitch.
I experienced real hunger when me and my family lived in my home country which (back then) was in a war.
I understand what an eating disorder is and I understand it's horrible ..but when you post about how you bought $75 worth of food just to throw it up, and you fucking brag about it on your blog…and then you fish for pity and attention but when people send you wishes to get better you shit all over them (as seen here >>30800
), and then disrespect and are a bitch to your IRL "friends" (Gia and Erika)…This is where I stop feeling any pity for you and realize you are a spoiled bitch hungry for attention and pity that brought this upon herself.
And yes, I realize you might have gone through some real hardships in your life, regarding your father or someone/something else but so did millions of other people and it still doesn't excuse you to act like a bitch towards others simply because you are a "victim". And fuck everyone who will still enable you and their retarded tumblrina way of thinking.
Ashley very likely exaggerated how severely she's being "harassed" and "stalked." I don't blame Gia for being afraid.
Anyway, this isn't like not sitting with your bullied friend. Not having her picture up doesn't mean they're not spending time together. That picture is totally inconsequential to their friendship.
Ashley is choosing to make herself available to the doxxers and "stalkers" and random internet sociopaths. Ashley might as well have painted a target on Gia by putting up that picture.
Ashley dragged Gia into this for no god damn reason.
So wait, when a friend posts a picture of you on social media and you don't like it, it makes you an asshole if you want it removed?
It's her right to ask her to remove it, doesn't make her a bitch. There were pictures of Ashley and her before online, she didn't ask Ashley to remove them.
>Besides, let's not kid ourselves. If like, Quirky or Star was demanding one of their friends not post a picture of them together because of ~AMG INTERNET BULLIEZ!!11!~ we'd be all up their asses for being shitty and unsupportive.
Wait what, explain how is the situation with Gia asking Ashley to remove that picture "unsupportive?"
I mean situation where it is shitty is when you are like Kiki and Kooter, trying to deceive everyone you are perfect elf doll, so you send copyright on every picture that shows some imperfections. But that's a totally different case.
And we all saw what happened when Gia got brought into this…>>31095>>31098>>31099>>31108>>31115
People started looking into her. Bringing up all her old stuff. She had a right to be scared some of the people on her are legitimately crazy.
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If anyone is still lost about Erika joining Instagram
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>>31529>She had to know when she took a selfie with Ashley that it would be posted. She brought this on herself.
OK then. What are you supposed to do when your friend asks to take a selfie with you? The polite thing is to accept, even if you look like shit, right? But if your friend is someone like Ashley, who has a reputation for the dramatics and would probably be offended and hurt and vent to thousands of followers/probably pretty passive aggressive about it if you rejected her, then what? Personally I think it would be worth the risk to take the photo on the off chance she thinks it's a bad picture of herself and doesn't post it online. And if you go into it assuming it's your friend, you might even genuinely think she would take it down if you disliked it.
We definitely don't cut pretty girls slack. Many of the most popular lolcows are attractive by most people's standards, like Kiki and Yukapon, and we don't really hold back. If you meant this particular thread…it might seem that way, but we don't really have any problem with Gia because we don't know who she is (and she doesn't do immature shit) and we can see Erika is trying to do better while Ashley is stewing in her misery and dragging her recovering pals down with her.
Erika is getting help? Or has at least. She talks about trying to get better, she did say she was going to outpatient treatments shortly before she deleted her tumblr, and wanted to get better. Where as Ashley vaguely talks about her issues to avoid the seriousness of them, but has admitted that she has turned down offers for help many times. We dont give her slack for being good looking, but for trying to actually be an adult at least and try her best to be there for her kids.
Idk anything about Gia, but the drama from the picture came from the fact that Ashley didnt care about Gia's feelings. It takes literally seconds to put a sticker on someone's face, people do it all the time. Yet Ashley not only refused to do it for Gia when she asked for a couple of hours, but also turned making her friend feel comfortable into her being the victim.
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Lets not forget you are here too.
Ashley or not you are obsessed with Ashley.
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whoa man. you really showed them. gud 1 bro
Congratulations. That's the biggest achievement of your life.
Bet it's the highlight of your day too.
Plus that 5 times
Oops 10 times
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I think its just supposed to be 2 girls gossiping and laughing at you ?
Apparently its supposed to make you mad
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Not speaking for all lolcow-ers but honestly, it was morbid curiosity that drove me to learn about Ashley. at first, I felt sorry for her. Wow she must be so misunderstood, etc etc… Now I see all the vileness she spews and nowadays I get small schadenfreude when she gets caught being the shitty person she truly is inside.
Your dear Ashley isn't a saint.
Ever wondered why she absolutely refuses to recover or it still hasn't reached your tumblrina brain?
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Whatever makes you feel better hun. We're all just big meanies, bullying poor innocent Ashley. Yup. Mhm. She tooootally has no blame in any of this. Yep. If there was nothing to make fun of guess what, she wouldn't be a fucking lolcow. Fact of the matter is Ashley is fucking hilarious. And no, I'm not referring to her ~anorexia~ but to her shitlord mentality towards everything and everybody.
It's the fact that she knows she looks like absolute shit but she won't get better because she loves the attention of getting stared at and praised by her followers.
Someone has even already stated that here before. She's so easy to see right through.
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merry christmas with love and good cheer :^)
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No one ever said that was her main issue but ok.
Look at you go lol
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Don't think you know what implication means.
>look at YOU go
for when you have no comeback, copy the same thing the person just said lol rage more fgt lol
Then why couldn't you consider Gia's feelings before? You just decided that she was being vain when she asked you to take down the photo.
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I'm asking you the same fucking thing dumbass. When she posts stuff like this and pretends to identify with it, what else are you supposed to think? She's eating it up.
Someone pushed a button and now you're whining over nonexistent things that didn't happen and weren't said.
Sounds like you have major self esteem and personal problems to deal with. No one's standing for your white knight bs here faggot
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ayy you called? lmao
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Slow down there, edgemeister!
Yeah okay true before that most of you were jerking it to her underage pictures. >>31646
Pretending. You're delusional.
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>We can leave this thread. And then what are you left with? The satisfaction that you can make fun of someone who is ill.
What are you on about? Are you seriously implying if you keep posting we'll all feel 'guilty' and stop talking about her? I don't even have anything against Ashley but I think you're retarded. Whether you're actually her or one of her white knights, seriously, if you stop posting there'll be a lot less to talk about and the thread will get buried.
>So in a way…. Ashley wins. Because she is so much more above floor scum such as yourselves.
Last time I checked I wasn't slowly killing myself tho
Yeah, she wins by starving herself for attention and shitting all over anyone who tries to be a friend to her IRL
What a winner.
Keep sucking her cock, tumblrinos
Earlier you said you were "not on either side, just tired of the bullies and bullshit people say about Ashley."
Get your story straight or at least make up your fucking mind retard.
Wow good job, congrats. We can all see how your love is making her the happiest most recovered beautiful person that is kind and unselfish…oh, wait.
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last one babes promise
Maybe, but you're not. You see, to be someone who feels that way about ashley, you must not know shit about her horrible personality. That or you're too stupid to see through her victim front.
So what is it about ashley that makes her such an exception?
This just in Anon, apparently not enabling someone to resume their downward spiral toward utter self destruction and refusing to feed someone's harmful delusions is bullying now.
Real friends and fans would be critical of a person's actions and call them out on their bullshit. I would rather that than have a bunch of ass lickers coddle me and say that everything is okay when in reality I am just fucking everything up for myself and those around me.
what's even more fucked up is that I guarantee she's aware of her actions in the same way we are. she even flaunts it and uses it for more sympathy, "oh I'm so fucked in the head, I push everyone away, why am I so unstable :( :("
I know this exact type of person. looking at where ashley is at in this spectrum of shit personality vs. self-awareness, and considering how long she probably has to live (not fucking long at this rate), she'll never change no matter what anyone does. coddling will never help her, calling her out won't help her either because she already knows what she's doing. she's going to die a miserable and delusional bag of bones
Gia is a woman in recovery from an ED, I think she fucking knows what it is like to binge on food.
She knew that Ashley was going to binge on that food and then purge herself, but she also knows that Ashley is too deep into her ED than applying "tough love" is not going to help her either. So uh, yeah nah, that's not talking down about her.
Okay so you have been whining about "bullying" yet you want to show them all their place by ~bullying~ them while also priding yourself for being *~above the rest~*
Just fuck off.
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Which one of them is lying?
She's such a vile person. I stumbled across her tumblr a little over a yr ago and I felt bad for her but I'm not a fan of anime or that kawaii bs so I didn't follow her blog. Awhile later someone I was following reblogged one of her text posts and I ended up following her,at the time I thought she was interesting and I felt bad for her blah blah blah. (And no,not interesting solely because of her ed,I thought she was a genuinely interesting person. I feel stupid for that,but whatever.) I sent her like maybe two anonymous asks at different times when she was "struggling" just saying I hoped she had a good day/felt better/etc. She never replied but I didn't think much of it,I just figured she wasn't feeling well or had to many asks to get to mine. Fast forward a few months,I was at a pretty low point and doing something nice for someone else usually makes me feel better so I decided to send her some kind of gift anonymously. I wanted to send it anonymously because I feel better about doing something nice for someone if they don't know I did it. (I don't know why,I know that makes no sense but it just feels better to do it without getting credit for it,idk maybe getting credit for it makes me feel like I did it for myself and not the person I guess.) So anyways I sent her an anonymous ask to get an idea of what I should send. I forget exactly how I worded it but it was something along the lines of
"hi love,I'd like to send you something,are there any specific things you want or don't want? I don't want to send anything that might trigger you so let me know what not to send and a few ideas of things you might enjoy. Have a great day"
Again,I'm sure those weren't my exact words word for word but I know it was something very similar. So she replied to it really rudely,something like
"ha,not falling for that I'm not going to list my triggers so that you can purposely trigger me I wasn't born yesterday. People that want to send me something can read my wish list."
Maybe not word for word but very close. I was shocked,one because I had thought she was a nice person and two because her answer made no sense to me,like if she thought I was trying to trigger her or whatever why would she bother saying the thing about her wish list? I feel dumb because she hurt my feelings,letting such a shitty person get to me makes me feel stupid. Whatever though. It's her loss,I was planning on spending around $50-60 on her but I donated it to a no kill animal shelter instead. I unfollowed her and basically put it out of my head until I started seeing a few random posts about her not being a nice person. I never said anything because I felt like I was the dumb one for falling for her shit. Plus I figured no one would believe me and I didn't think to screenshot the ask she answered so I thought I'd just get attacked for it,not to mention it just seemed like a pointless thing to "tell" anyone. Started seeing more negative stuff about her recently and I got bored and curious and Googled and found this last night. I wasn't going to post this because judging just based off of the way a lot of people word things on here I feel like you'll all think I'm just a dumb gullible tumblr asshole,which may be true but I decided I wanted to post this anyway after I saw people defending her. To the people defending her,she's a mean person. She was needlessly rude to me when all I wanted to do was send her a gift. If you want to continue to be a fan of hers that's your choice but I think more people should realize what a jerk she is.
And this is unrelated but something that never made sense to me about her is how and why she posts so many photos of herself and her body online,and whyyyy she constantly uses the "anorexia" and "eating disorder" tags. As someone with an eating disorder I can't imagine posting so many body pics or using those tags. I'd be mortified if there were pics of my body on my blog and I'd feel really weird and stupid posting in those tags. I use my blog to write and reblog pics I like but I can't imagine posting the stuff she does. That alone isn't really worthy of judgment,everyone's different but when you combine it with everything else,like constantly posting about stuff she wants or her wishlist and all the other pity party crap she says its just pathetic and gross.
ok but this happened what seems like about a year ago, how long have people been "bullying" ashley? and if there's such a long history of her being "bullied" that really indicates something about her personality that either brings about people criticizing her, or she's clearly embellishing/dramatizing for sympathy.
not to say blame the victim, but in this case I think it's fair considering all the evidence of her being a shitty person in general
let me clarify a bit more–she's probably not actually the victim as much as she paints herself to be. there's less of a reason for her to distrust people in reality, but she's constructing a world for herself where no one can be trusted and everyone is the enemy for sympathy. which brings on actual enemies. she seeks it and gains from it
I've been up for the past 36 hrs straight I might not be making a whole lot of sense but I know the Ashley personality alllllll too well
You don't seem like a 'dumb gullible tumblr asshole' at all. You just seem like someone who was trying to be friendly and nice to her and got snapped at for no apparent reason.>>31775
Even if she was paranoid because of trolls, she could have just mentioned her wishlist or given a couple examples of what she likes without bitching that person out? I know her bitchiness probably has a lot to do with being malnourished but fucking hell she seems rude.
Are you talking about >>31777
>not to say blame the victim
It's right there.
Well if she thought that there are a million other much nicer ways to respond. If she'd responded nicely I'd understand,it's how she handled it that I have an issue with not what she may or may not have thought. I could understand being suspicious but I don't understand being nasty about it.
As for proof,if you'd read what I wrote you'd have your answer. At the time I saw no reason to screenshot it,why would I have? The thought didn't even cross my mind. Besides,I don't feel the need to prove myself to anyone. I added my experience with her to this mostly because a good amount of the posts aren't really saying much about personal one on one experiences and I feel like it's relevant information. If you believe it you do,if you don't you don't,it doesn't change what happened and it doesn't bother me either way. Also,not sure if you're one of the people defending her but if you are I'd be willing to bet that even if I had a screenshot you'd still find some excuse for her behavior so it really doesn't matter.
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Haha, you watch Dr. Phil.
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guys we just got told
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Why the fuck do these cunts keep sending her food to chew on and throw up? There are people starving because they have NO CHOICE and you tumblr fucks are spending $30+ on food for this bitch to chew and spit out. You are not being kind to her, it is literally killing her, you are enabling her behaviour. If you guys stopped doing this she actually might have a chance of recovery because she wouldn't be able to afford this. You guys doing this will be the reason why she dies
>Say she's ugly?? Post a picture of YOURSELF!!
What is it with people throwing this around when someone makes a negative comment about someone's appearance? She chooses to post her picture, she chooses to allow everyone to see her in this condition. She does look terrifying. When I first came across her pictures I was shocked.
She let her body deteriorate. Of course people are going to comment on it. If this is such an issue for her then she shouldn't be posting her photos on the internet. Just because little miss ayy decided to throw her face across social media pages does not mean every one has to follow suit.
This article is fucking retarded.
>The first reason is that we like to have tangible, physical evidence of an illness before we take it seriously, which is why unhelpful attitudes still exist around mental health issues including depression. Anorexia manifests itself in evident weight-loss while bulimia sufferers can often be at a normal weight. The idea that if you’re not unhealthily thin, you can’t possibly have an eating disorder is hopelessly outdated but still widespread.
Anorexics that are a healthy weight aren't taken seriously either, whereas bulimics that are underweight ARE taken seriously. People need evidence to believe that a person is sick. If you're a healthy weight but claim to have an eating disorder, you look like a liar. No fucking shit, Sherlock.
> The anorexic part of my illness was treated by some friends as praiseworthy and I was repeatedly given positive reinforcement in the form of comments like “oh wow you’re so skinny” and “you’re so lucky, you can wear anything you want”
So, people weren't saying "Yay anorexia!" Yet this author thinks they were praising anorexia, because, what, all skinny people must be anorexic?
> However, when the impulse to eat (and then binge) became too strong and bulimic behaviours began to surface, the negative and unkind responses were overwhelming. What I was doing was ‘disgusting’ and ‘wasteful’ and ‘selfish’
If you're going to buy food and then waste it (purging IS wasting), give it to a food bank! Bulimia is wasteful, period. It's selfish if someone else is buying your food for you. And it's definitely disgusting, beca