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New Ashley thread
Old thread at: >>21279
Short summary: When the first thread was made, most anons wanted to help Ashley and felt pity. She claimed her mother was abusing her and didn't even give her money for food. Farmers reported abuse but Ashley threw a fit, deleted her pictures and it turned out she isn't actually abused by her mother at all, but instead loves attention she gets from acting like a victim of abuse.
Then someone posted her old pictures, pre-anorexia, from 2007 and we found out she used to be camwhore on /b/, named Hamtaro-chan.
Later, it turned out she was very rude to a girl who hung out with her IRL and we found out that she talks shit behind backs of everyone who tries to befriend her IRL.
Also makes people buy her food under a guise of "recovery" but it turns out that she doesn't want to recover at all, but mostly gets people to buy her food so she can purge it.
Current events: Ashley discovered the thread about her so she is sending her personal army of tumblrinas to shitpost here.
Hopefully they are dumb enough not to find this new thread.
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Uh, bulimic here, and I wanna say that it can go both ways. Like some people, especially on social media, tend to like to kinda mention that oh, they're gonna b/p, or they only ate this much today mainly out of a sick sense of accomplishment, but those are usually the noobs or whatever. But tbh after you get to the point where you've had it for so long, you're just desperately ashamed because you don't want anyone to find out or think you're disgusting. Some people are like, oh idgaf, it's obvious anyway, why should I act like it's a big deal?
Just my two cents.
"Also makes people buy her food under a guise of "recovery" but it turns out that she doesn't want to recover at all, but mostly gets people to buy her food so she can purge it."
False. I know Ashley doesn't want to or cannot recover. I bought her food because I'm fond of her. I know what she's going to do with it and I don't care. I want her to have it because she wants it. <3
Then you are just as fucked up as she is.
Does she want to die? Is that her end goal in this or does she just want to milk the attention and kindness/stupidity of others like anon that buys her food?
I understand that she's kind of to far gone now and it could be classed as mental illness because it's probably wired within her body now but I can't help but feel like if she has such a horrible life, why not just suicide.
I love how her fans think they care about her but don't care that they're buying her food she's going to purge anyway.>>32459
Isn't suicide more or less what she's doing at this point? She knows she's close to death.
Lol so if she was into heroine you'd give her cash so she could buy that right?
Can't you see how even though she loves it and it makes her happy it's sick and hurting her?
Great. So you are aware you are spending money (and not a small amount) on a girl who buys huge amounts of food (enough to feed multiple people), eats it and minutes later throws it all up.
That sounds so fucked up to me. Maybe it's because I am not from USA but from a country that still has problems with recession and nowadays hunger. Recently I've been reading in newspaper how there are people who have been stealing basic foodstuffs worth maybe $5 max (cheapest brands) so they can feed they children. Or how one woman stole a $2 pack of hot dogs because that's what her child wished for Christmas. (She managed to bake bread because she had some leftover flour at home)
That's why it makes me feel literaly sick in the stomach when I come here and read this. When I see Ashley BRAGGING about spending $75 on one meal and throwing it all up (>>32365)
I'm sorry but I can't understand supporting and donating big amounts of food to a woman who will just throw it up and who admits herself she doesn't want to recover. I can't feel pity for her. What I would do is send her to hospital to be fed. If she refuses, then she can die.
Because there are so many people who are in a way shittier situation and still want to live.
And the shipping?
Regardless $20 tends to be more in most other countries.
"I want her to have it because she wants it. <3"
OK, so, what is it about this girl that deserves to be admired?
She vomits, she takes pics, she camwhores her "disease"? I don't get it.
Your response doesn't make any sense given what >>32376
20 dollars is still a lot for her to purge, though.
You could be donating that money to charity where people need that food instead of some grown ass woman with the mentality of a 14 year old who is in a situation where she can afford food by herself. I don't understand how you all rationalize this behavior as doing her any good.
she can't afford food by herself, she doesn't have a job. which makes it all the more despicable that she's leeching off her mom, lying to her followers, purging grotesquely expensive meals/countless groceries, and then pretending her ED stems from her mother's emotional abuse and ~starving~ her to get more pity.
bitch, your mom is one of the only humans on this planet who would ever waste so much time, money and effort on your ungrateful ass. every IRL friend ashley's encountered has been driven off in a matter of months, if not weeks. her mom must be a goddamn saint to put up with all Ashley's shit.
look at it this way: if she responds to her followers/fans in such a rude manner–people who are trying to give her mental support if not straight-up gifts–then she probably doesn't treat her mom any better. tbh I wouldn't be surprised if the entire ED is just a way to 'trap' her mom. If she wasn't on the verge of death, most parents would have kicked her the fuck out long ago.
"tbh I wouldn't be surprised if the entire ED is just a way to 'trap' her mom."
That's such an awful thing to say. Of course it isn't. She's not intentionally killing herself to "trap" her mom.
It's not very "kind" to help someone with their disordered relationship to food. It's delusional and kind of morbid, honestly.
Why buy food related things for someone when they obviously struggle with it? What the fuck? Just get her an anime figurine, or a cute bow, or some shit. Is that just weird to me, or? It's not like you're friends with her in person, and you guys are stopping somewhere to eat, so it's kind of spur of the moment, and you want to be nice and pay for the food, or something. This is over the Internet where you can carefully choose what you gift her. It seems disingenuous to act as if buying food you know she's going to purge later is harmless, and you're being such a nice and caring person.
Oh and lbr, buying gummy worms and dumb candies is not a proper source of nutrition, so even if she didn't have access to groceries (which I doubt), this would hardly be helping.
I think it's more or less the 'gesture'..
Just a random act of kindness.
Food you gotta deal with every day, so I guess at least make the food enjoyable? I mean obviously she's still alive, so let her 'enjoy' what she wants.
It's basically what other posters have said in harsher language. For a lot of people who suffer from EDs, it becomes a way to remain codependent. The idea is that, by maintaining a 'fragile' or 'child-like' physique, it encourages others to see them as someone that needs protection and caregiving. As evidenced by a number of the initial posts in the previous thread, before hamtaro was unearthed. It sounds like Ashley's mom has hospitalized her for her ED in the past, so obv. she can't be the totally uncaring monster that she's portrayed as, oblivious to her daughter wasting away before her eyes. She's fed Ashley, taken her shopping, housed her and even given her an allowance for an amount of time far beyond what most parents are expected to do. Ashley's not even in school. She erupts whenever anyone expects anything out of her more than living past the next day. As far as I can tell, she's planning to milk the situation as long as she can. Furthermore, on her old blog, I remember seeing her make these awful posts about how it would basically serve her mom right whenever she died. Think about it. Her mom must face criticism on a daily basis from total strangers who assume at a glance that she's a horrible mother for allowing her child to deteriorate to that state. (This is one of the reasons why I think Ash likes to emphasize how much she gets stared at and how conscious the friends who meet her IRL must be of her appearance) In addition, she is villainized to an online audience by her own daughter as the primary reason for Ashley's ED–flawless deflection of responsibility, as Ash is wont to do. If that's not enough, she has to live with a person who seems to take sadistic glee in drawing out her suicide for as long as possible at anothers expense, while simultaneously claiming that it's her caretaker's punishment for creating the situation. She can't extricate herself from the situation unless she were to ACTUALLY fulfill the role of an abusive mom and forcibly remove Ash from her home. Ideally, this would be to put her in an intensive recovery program– which idk if she even CAN now that Ashley's over 21, I think she'd have to be declared psychologically unfit first.
Not that her mom has any reason to believe treatment would work now when it's clearly been useless in the past. The poor woman's probably given up at this point.
Thing is, you act like you know her.
You act like you're in that apartment with her.
But hey! You're not.
So before you make about a million judgments about someone, step back.
Because really, you don't know the problems.
Well, from my understanding, (yeah, knowing her) there is actually friction in the household. And think of it this way: she's pretty dependent upon things, I mean look at her. But yeah, her mom is under no contract or anything to help her. I guess what the problem is, is that the 'love' for her daughter should just sort of.. Be there? And there really isn't. (Yeah yeah, no household has it perfect, I get it) but the.. Hatred, I guess, is what she wants to tell people. Believe me, don't, whatever. But I knew her before she moved to orlando. And things have always been just sort of crappy between the two.
Oh come off it. The only reason Ashley gets to live her lifestyle of constant trips to Disneyland, copious amounts of weeb memorabilia and candy, free groceries, and free room and board is because her MOTHER provides it for her.
She's only a bad mom in the respect that she enables her daughter to destroy herself, but Ashley is hell bent on it so she's probably just granting her any last dying wish.
Her mom probably feels like she's being held hostage. If she really hated Ashley she could send her to a nursing home or the state hospital but she lets her stay home instead.
Seriously we need to get this girl committed. If the abuse investigators didn't do anything there has to be some other way to get her to a hospital. There's no way they could look at her and think she's mentally stable enough to choose whether to go or not.
From www.osco.comIf it is an emergency, dial 911. For non-emergencies, call(407) 836-HELP (4357). The dispatcher who takes your call will ask questions about the activity to determine it's nature and ask for descriptions of the people involved. You might be asked if an officer or detective may contact you, but you may refuse.
And since reporting abuse didn't work since they probably saw no signs her mom was abusing her, Florida DCF also handles self neglect cases:Vulnerable Adult in Need of Services (Self-neglect): A vulnerable adult who has been determined by a protective investigator to be suffering from the ill effects of neglect not caused by a second party and is in need of protective services or other services to prevent further harm (s. 415.102(28), F.S.)
Report here: http://myflfamilies.com/service-programs/adult-protective-services/report-abuse
surviving past today is not 'living life'. she has literally sabotaged herself to the point that she is incapable of obtaining an education, holding down a job, even mild physical exertion like walking has to be taxing on her body at this point. if people just 'left her alone' like you're asking them to, she would be dead by her own volition. and if nobody intervenes, this is what's going to happen anyways.
nobody here is arrogant enough to claim that we're going to be the ones to 'fix' her, but if reporting this situation puts her in the care of professionals who ARE capable of providing aid, it's a better solution than just sending her gummy bears and shit in the vain attempt to ~make her happy~.
if showing up here and blindly defending her actions makes you feel like a 'good person'–well, I guess that's how you're getting your holiday jollies this year. but realize that you're not actually helping. you're simply enabling the disease which is slowly killing this woman. but it's better than people 'leave her alone' (unless they're sending her shit off her wishlist) and allow her to die 'happy' with her ED rather than intervene and try to get her the attention from MEDICAL PROFESSIONALS that could actually save her life. is that what you're trying to say? because it sure as shit sounds like it.
Oh spergs… Lighting up the tread with shit.
Well at least these anons are doing what they think is right, shitting up a thread and not doing anything yourself is worse.
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This thread has gotten really pathetic and out of control.
I'm actually a girl and a recovered anorexic so…
What don't you think some of us don't understand?
She doesn't need to visit this thread then. She can try and send her e-lawyers to shut down the site.
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are you seriously twelve? I mean, you were acting like it before but I thought you were just an idiot.
your naivete is simply on a whole 'nother level.>>32820
I doubt it. She'll be back once she thinks this has blown over.>>32824
nobody's 'threatening' her with anything more than a much-needed intervention. wow, much harassment. so bullying.
Ashley's already a confirmed liar in my mind, I'll believe her sob stories when she provides evidence.>>32822
most of the browsers on this board are female, actually. and it seems like quite a number of us are survivors of abuse/EDs of our own, myself included, which is why seeing Ashley's behavior praised and defended provokes such a negative gut reaction.
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She's such a sweetheart this one.
I hope she makes it. Erika is such a kind and smart lady. I hope she can get out of the abusive relationships she has and live peacefully.
Top kek. Fucking priceless. Listen, they're not going to stop until she dies, period. There is nothing you can do about it, absolutely nothing. She's not getting help, she's going to die and she's going to die soon. How about you stop bitching at us, because we are going to keep up what we're doing, and spend time with Ms Skeltal because you don't have much time with her left.
What we are doing is never going to be as bad as what she is doing to herself. Don't get me wrong, it would be great if she recovered, but she won't, she can't. This is far more than not eating, the sickness is in the way she behaves and in everything she does.
She's a shit person, look at what she did to one of her supposed BFFs, Gia. She was awful and cruel towards her, she begs people to buy her food just to regurgitate it two minutes later, and she's nasty and mean even towards those who try to assist her.
The only reason, if at all, the police involve themselves it will be because she committed suicide over harsh and intense bullying.
Like that crazy adult lady who taunted some teen often about how she should kill herself and whatnot.
Ashley is no where near the positive end of the spectrum of shit. She's just holding her tongue right now because she knows if she starts up with her whiney lies, it's evidence that can be used to get her treatment.
Several people, including myself, have messaged her positive things but she chooses to ignore it. Oh, but if you send her "hate" or what she perceives as hate, she will lash out and go on a bitchy tirade.
ash, ash, ash. if these threads really upset you so much, you should probably stop reading them/commenting on them.
PS- who's gloating? What'd I miss?
oh, that's bound to happen.
unless it didn't already
kind of already suspected that.
she camwhored on /b/, that plus her tumblr activities pretty much prove that she's well-versed in the art of manipulating her audience.
Actually, I'll own this. It was too far- Sorry, Ash. Just trying to butthurt your followers for more lols.
I doubt anyone truly desires your death, it would even be nice if you did recover but- I don't know.
Not once have you acknowledged or apologized for the hurtful and dishonest things you have done. You still
feel like a complete victim and you refuse to take responsibility for your actions. You have no empathy. Trying to backtrack by acting nice isn't the worst thing you could do but it's still not going to stop responsible people from getting professionals involved to keep you from killing yourself.
Since even Ashley has said that showing her skin is triggering to herself, you are really in denial here. How is she a decent person when the shit with Gia was mere days ago? Replying to nice anons is damage control.
Ashley isnt 'scared' of getting help, she doesnt want it. She left her old blog because someone tried to get her help.
Alright, alright. I'm listening.
Is she actually doing anything about her weight? Is she scared of death?
No one deserves to die at twenty-four/twenty-five. She put herself out here on the internet though, people tried to help her and she flaunted herself while getting worse and worse and even insulted people who tried to buy her food or wish her well. She's not only hurting herself here, her family and friends have to watch her die in the most horrific way possible.
I can tell you this though with almost complete certainty, if she REALLY tried, talked about plans to gain weight, to go into the hospital even as an outpatient, anything to really show she was serious, we'd be big supporters.
We can't support her as she is now.
Listen Cupcake, we're going to talk about her weight. This will continue until the end if she does not change. The only good that has come from this is that she's sparked a conversation. People are learning about ED after reading about her, people are sharing their experiences, if in return people vent their frustrations and gossip, if that's all the flack that she gets back from destroying her life, her family, her future, and ENCOURAGING others with ED…
She can ignore us, no one can ignore her though because she's fucking DYING and making it a goddamned spectacle. If a car crashes, people watch. But… I will repeat this again. If she spoke about attempting to gain weight, if she even tried hospitalization ONE MORE TIME, a real fucking try, people would lay off. Fuck, people would probably try to help her pay her medical bills.
When did anyone talk about her weight?
All that was asked was if she was doing anything about it.
Pffffffffffffttttttttttt. You act like she's some type of martyr.
She'll be your buddy-buddy till she turns on you. We've seen it time and again.
So she didn't mean to hurt Gia when she wrote that horrible caption on Instagram?
I have a real question for you regarding >>32930
Does this post make sense to you? At all? Because this is what it comes down to. I can't fucking fathom how this wouldn't make sense to someone.
As a bulimic, I can never fathom how someone can spend over 15 bucks on binge food. I feel bad enough that I'm going to waste that food but to spend $75 on food that you're not even going to share with other people? Fuck, if I did that my heart would probably stop from the guilt and lack of electrolytes.
Also, I'm currently trying to recover so pls donut h8 me too much
your victim complex is staggering.
nobody's trying to take ~speaking to others~ away from her, but you've got to admit
the best thing for her to do at this point is to get off the internet and sort out her life.
you say she's got counseling? great. talk to them instead of her tumblrina army of enablers. but if they're doing their job, they'll say the same thing that this forum has been repeating like a fucking broken record for days now: Ashley needs medical attention. The state of deterioration that her body is in impacts critical digestive functions, not just her thought processes, and with her BPD and b/p patterns I can't imagine that she's in a state where she could feasibly 'recover', even if that's what she wanted, from her home environment.
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….For those of you who think buying her food to binge and purge on is helpful.
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Ok, let me indulge you with a more recent one.
She's saying she's got an addiction. You're ok with supplying her drug o choice to her? Hmmmm?
I was joking, honey.
Oh. My. GOD.
Nobody WANTS their addiction but if it was as easy as wishing it away nobody would suffer. Fuck, your post is rolling in ignorance.
You are one dumb fuck.
Ok, ok, so instead of laughing at how astronomically retarded you are, lets go over this. Like >>32963
says, nobody wants their addiction. >>32951
's point was that people like you who buy expensive food for her are just feeding her life-destroying condition. You're inadvertently helping her destroy herself. Do you get it now?
ugh sorry, it's getting late
I think it's just moralfaggotry honestly. This whole thing strikes me as "but we have to help her!" when they really just want to see what she'll do if she ends up being contacted irl by authorities again.
If any of you seriously DO want her institutionalized for her own health, lets face it, even if she did stop b/ping I'm pretty sure her organs are damaged enough at this point that she won't live long. It's really sad, but I think we have to accept that she's not got long left at this point.
She's been crying about being talked about and "stalked" online but still
can't stay away from the Internet. It's just sad because she has nothing else in her life other than food and she can't live without constant attention.
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pfft as if lolcow isn't 95% catty bitches and 5% catty dudes who miss the dramu on /cgl/.
you're the one that has no idea how eating disorders work because none of that shit has anything to do with EDs. you think EDs are only for what,…black trans women? makes me think you're the one who has no frame of reference here. especially because it sounds like you think /b/ is all of 4chan
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ewww… edgar allea poe. such a poser…
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/b/ isn't all of 4chan??!!??!!
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really ashley, really?
Ashley is an idiot.
Wait, no…she's not an idiot. She knew what Erika meant. She's just vicious.
The sooner Erika cuts her out of her life, the better.
Yeah, Ashley had people trying to help her, her friend tried getting her help with insurance and whatever but she just doesn't want to try. Erika just has financial obstacles which is understandable but is really fighting for herself and her family. It's ridiculous how Ashley twists the truth and says she's
trying and Erika's lying. Ashley's version of reality is literally the opposite of the truth.
Go away Ashley.
There is more than money involved with the actually wanting to recover. Money aside, she WAN'TS to live. The only foul ball here is that Ashley used Erika's pretty face to try and win followers and it came back and slapped her because she introduced Erika to everyone else and then she got jealous. The fact that Erika has in the past proved she can self recover on her own free will shows she gives a shit. Ashley is scared erika is going to recover and steal hur follours and lose her life's purpose. She doesn't even realize or care to realize that she manipulates everything so disturbingly it's like the obvious physical shape she is in. Denial and deadly delusions.
>>33052>ashley has no family helping
right, because the woman who gave birth to you and has been supporting you for the past six-ish years isn't your 'family'.
at least Erika is trying to help herself. Ashley just wants unconditional sympathy and toys. she has the mentality of a spoiled child.>my mom is so abusive
but never attempts to become financially independent in order to separate herself from the situation, even though she could literally have free money handed to her by the government and/or receive donations through the internet.
but she'd rather get candy and anime figurines from her supporters instead.>my ED is so draining & difficult to live with
but never seeks assistance to recover, in fact attacks anyone who criticizes her logic, suggests that she change, or attempts to provide her with options for treatment or care.
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also I like how she's only begun to answer compliments since coming on this forum & witnessing the farmers complaints about her only responding to insults/criticism.
way to backtrack, you wily bitch.
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Looks like her mother's too depressed and angry at her circumstances to even face the one responsible on a day that's supposed to be 'happy.' I bet she can't even stand the idea of seeing someone you're supposed to love unconditionally, your own daughter, not only in the end stages of her suicide, but a mess of resentment and cruelty directed at everyone, including her, the only one who would ever have supported her for this long.
Shit sucks. I hope you lot are having a nice Christmas.
Ashley gets donations and uses them for anime shit, you dumb fucking cunt. She begs for material objects instead of actual HELP. That is part of why we hate her.
People have offered their services to Ashley and she says, 'fuck you, no' and throws it back in their faces after asking for some dumb anime DVD set.
Ok, the fact that she's starving herself to death is not our point. Do we blame Gia or Erika for being sick? No. The thing is how she behaves, she begs for food donations just to purge it back up and flaunts her illness and then expects us not to talk about it. She's a fascinating case, but she's also cruel, lying and just plain nasty.
Many of us here, including myself have been abused physically, mentally and sexually. You don't get a fucking trump card when those things happen to you though.
the thing is that we only have Ashley's word that her mother IS abusive. there's no evidence. all we have to go by is what Ash relates to us.
and Ashley hasn't exactly been a non-biased source of reliable information in the past.
if the way she's treated Gia/Erica/her followers is any indication, Ashley is really quick to warp any situation into a sob story, starring herself as the victim. It's not hard to imagine how she might rewrite an argument or disagreement with her mother into 'emotional abuse'.
And she HAS spread stories like 'my mother won't feed me' in the past, but directly contradicts herself by instagramming grocery shopping pics and trips to the Cheesecake Factory. Who do you think is taking her those places?
So yeah, there's no evidence that her mother isn't abusive, but also there's no evidence that she is. Ashley's perception of reality is severely warped. I wouldn't trust anything that she chose to publicize about her personal life.
>>33079>there's gotta be a reason behind her disordered behaviour
She likes attention, she gets attention by playing victim and starving herself to death.
I'm assuming she has psychological issues.
'She wants attention'-
Yeah, because in case you forgot,
IT'S SOMETHING ALL HUMANS
NEED FOR LIFE.
And some will do whatever they can for it.
Stop acting high and mighty.
Are you for real?
No one NEEDS attention. That's a want, not a need.
You won't die for not getting likes on instagram.
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I found some pictures of Ashley that haven't been posted here or on the previous thread. Dumping.
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I have BPD and so does my mother, and we spent years putting each other through emotional abuse, physical and verbal abuse too, each blaming the other for their self destruction. I eventually did therapy so I'm coping better now but my mother did not take any therapy and is worse than ever (we rarely, if ever, talk any more)
It's so blinding obvious that Ash has BPD, the manipulation, constant sob stories, the stories that can only be exaggerations, and the obsession with being a victim all the time. Her mother just sounds severely depressed (Ash has said a few times that her Ma has an ED too) and unable to cope with her kid, but how can you abandon your child when they're in that sorry state? I feel really bad for her mother, coping with a BPD person is difficult enough on its own but having to face daily persecution from irl people and online people over something she can't force her kid to stop doing?? Ouch.
The only question I really have is could Ashley even get better at this point? Like would she be able to get to a healthy weight or is the situation so bad now her early death is pretty much certain?
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This one looks like it was taken in a hospital?
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:/ So sad…
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…Still think she isn't flaunting, whiteknights?
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Sorry, I think the pictures are fascinating. It's unreal to as what our bodies' can handle.
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Seems like it's gone now. I found this, but that was it.
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I'm genuinely hoping for Erikas recovery, she seems like she's really trying and I seriously think she's an incredible human for wanting to do so for her children. It must be tough as fuck to pull yourself out of that, but maybe she's seen what Ashley turned into and she doesn't want to be like her. I have everything crossed that Erika makes a full recovery and lives her life to the maximum she can. She deserves it, she seems like a golden human being. ForestCat seems like a nutcake, what's with the obsession anyway?
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Oh shit… There is more.>>33128
Erika is awesome in my book. Tough motherfucker.>>33129
k go back to tumblr noa
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YEAH, SHE DOESN'T FLAUNT AT ALL, GUYS.
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This was posted on her old tumblr, can't confirm for sure that it's her.
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She'd be so physically pretty if she just gained eight pounds or so. But it's not that easy. :/
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Yup, that's why we have this thread.>>33141
LMAO. Sorry, I meant to say eighty.
Keep calling the 'meanies' Ashley, whatever helps.
Just saying, you'll eventually see how easy words are to say, and how evidence eventually surfaces. It's with anyone, no matter how 'golden' they may seem.
You all may be getting off on mentally torturing Ashley to the point to where she's scared, but the other person you seem to be praising is just as sneaky- the disorder will do that to you, and she is no exception. Good day to you all.
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So the Forest cat is a run of the mill, plain looking boring tween. That explains a lot: she clearly idolises them for those reasons. Boredom mostly.
If you want to be independant, caring and intelligent, fucking give recovery an old college try, otherwise this is the year of your death. Even if she reaches her goal of becoming those three things it will only last for maybe another… eight months at most?
I respect the fact that she knows she has a long way to go with those personality traits though. Good introspection, Ash. First time I've heard you say something like that…
The dashes, the vague implications of knowing 'hidden things' about Erika, and the 'good day to you all' are all classic Ashley, notwithstanding the stench of your distinctive writing style.
Stop fucking shitting on Erika; we've all covered why she's much better than you ad infinitum. At least with any luck she'll be repulsed by your bashing her here with your 'insider information,' and stop letting you drag her down.
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can anyone shoop her to weigh more/prettier like we shoop our queen thinner?
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Also this is Erika before…
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Aaaaand nope. This photo was taken AFTER the one with her service dog :-)
Wow, you all are ARE blind.
This is too funny.
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Whatever cunts, here is another recent one.
Yeah because solitary confinement isn't considered borderline torture by every country…
Do you want me to dig up a bunch of pictures where Ashley is hanging out with friends? Because they are out there. Ashley isn't fucking locked away like people in solitary confinement. >>33167
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practically had to draw new arms, sorry for the shit shooping job but I just wanted to take some of the hollows out of her face. I've wondered the same thing–I mean what she'd look like if she were healthy– before.
she'd be really cute imo.
So her bitchiness being "real" makes it better? I'm sorry but if you're acting like a bitch, then you deserve to be treated like one.
Where the fuck are the admins?
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Derp. Forgot picture.
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Lel. We are aupposed to believe this crock of shut when this time last year her mom got her a gift?
I call BULLSHIT Ashley!
Stop being so mysterrrrrious.
Either tell us what you're hinting at, or tell Ashley to make a sex tape bcuz I want to know if someone even could stick their dick in her without her turning into bone dust like those bone turtles in mario that collapse when you jump on their heads'. Except with dicks instead of jumping on her head.
I'm seeing progress on one side while on the other I see self-destruction.
At least one of them is trying.
Ok, but you're a proven liar so…..
Anyway isn't that what you what? For us all to "blindly" get behind someone then get burned when they "show their true colors"? And don't you expect that out of your own followers too? You are deluded girl.
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thanks anon, I'm the one who requested the shoop. So fascinating to imagine.
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Fucking christ, guys…
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shoop 4 anon
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Thanks anons. God, i love Erika. She seems like such a genuine person, just kind of… eccentric? It's sad she got wrapped around with Ashley at all.
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It is as simple as this. If you put yourself out online and give out personal information, be ready for that to backfire on you.
You know how Ashley can make this stop? Disable anon asks and just don't look at this thread. Goddamn, it's that freaking easy.
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It would have been worlds easier to just re-draw her body.
And yes, her arm disappeared because it was completely salvageable.
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Robert Z'Dar, is that you?
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Just read this shit. I'm fucking disgusted.
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Ash is just jealous that whenever she posts her face she knows it makes people physically ill whereas Erika is actually really attractive. She probably views Erika as competition; she's likable, quirky, pretty and recovering whereas ashley is unlikable, annoying, and reveling in her ED.
Yeah because one person is whole lolcow.
But even that anon might wanna help her.
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Actually yes I do want to help her. She may be a big pissbaby but it's still sad to watch her kill herself. It's even sadder that people kiss her ass because such sad, so mental illnes, must hugbox her!!!1! They're also killing her.
I wish to help her too.
Just don't know how.
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you are so open-minded.
WOAH WOAH WOAH!!
YOU ALL WERE QUICK TO POINT THE FINGER AT ASHLEY FOR DOING THIS,
AND ERIKA JUST DID THE EXACT SAME THING.
SPEAKING LIKE WE DON'T KNOW WHO SHE'S TALKING ABOUT.
True colors fast approaching. K done.
Thank you all for these threads. I was considering getting her something for Christmas (not food), but I was being so fucking naive to how this girl really is. I have an ED too, although I'm a guy, so it's a little rough out there when it comes to that.
On the few occasions I spoke to her she was very kind to me, but I'm assuming that's because she's good at pretending. Fuck that, bookmarking this thread and never supporting her bullshit again. Ashley, if you're reading this, get bent. I don't know what kind of sick pleasure you get from making everyone around you look abusive and mean, but it's horrible.
I hope Erika stays far a-fucking-way from you, heals as best she can and moves on from ever knowing you. Maybe when everyone around you who still has faith in your word realizes that you're a liar, you'll have something real to complain about.
Anyways, thank you folks for shedding light for myself and, as I'm sure, many others. I'm so glad I came here and read this before spending money on someone who doesn't deserve it.
Same here. I have an ED too, (I'm a girl though), have talked to her a couple of times and thought her mostly harmless even though I majorly side-eyed some of the rude things she said to people and always thought the stories about her mother didn't quite add up.
When she pretended to be all coy about doing a wishlist and pretending she couldn't ever do that (but then promptly making one with hundreds of dollars' worth of crap and posting the link everywhere) I thought it was a bit crass BUT I thought maybe I could bring a bit of joy to someone with a tough life. So I planned to buy her something. I even started writing a letter to go with it.
That first thread here though really opened my eyes and then the whole Gia thing was what sealed the deal for me. I could not believe how she twisted that situation and had her supposed 'friend' begging her for hours to consider her feelings and then made herself look like the victim. So utterly disgusting, I can't believe I was ever taken in by this person.
#33327, best of wishes to you. I know the holidays are a hard time for those of us with EDs but I hope you're doing okay.
The Gia thing is exactly what changed my opinion on her as well, as soon as I read the messages I just felt disgusted at her behavior. Even more so when she proceeded to post about how Gia was so ashamed of her and whatnot.
I was pretty furious. I knew that, in general, I couldn't tell who she was through a computer screen as a whole. But it's absolutely vile, the way she talks about her friends and her own family, who's still supporting her.
Mayer she and her mom don't have the best relationship, but the fact that she still has a home and a way to survive at her age is proof enough that her mother isn't the one doing the hateful things in this relationship.
Thank you, best of wishes to you as well. The holidays do suck, but my family and friends have been very supportive and very loving. I hope all is well for you, too!
Same. I had even got a gift and sadly some food. I passed it into good will when I found this thread.
Having not had an active ED for 6 years and been in "recovery" since then she ignored me for a long time as I assume I looked normal. As soon as I posted something on my tumblr about mental health. She jumped on it and was so nice, even paying me compliments and acting coy when I offered to get something from the wishlist.
This thread saved me from making a huge mistake and being dragged into a load of drama like Gia and Erika.
I wonder how many people she has sending her stuff at one time. Her wishlist seems go change a lot which makes me thing loads of people are doing it
There are dozens of screencaps in this thread and the last of her being rude to people.
Go to bed Ashley.
Here is one: >>32364
, and this one >>33029
Then go back to the previous thread and read the posts about drama with Gia.
Then come back to this thread and read yoir own posts where you shit talk about Erika, Ashley.
Then enlighten us and post some and we'll consider your side Ashley. From what we're seeing you are an absolutely horrible fucking person and Erika should seriously just completely drop you. All you do is hurt people, the best thing you could do is to stop talking to any other human being because the only thing you are capable of is bringing them down.
All hail Erika for putting up with your bullshit and recovering at the same time.
It would be dangerous but it would not be as dangerous as what she is doing now. It really depends on a lot of things, I'd have to know more about her current state of health to say for sure.
But either way, going as she is now she is going to die. Recovering… she might have a chance.
There is something called refeeding syndrome that would be the main risk.
'Any individual who has had negligible nutrient intake for more than 5 consecutive days is at risk of refeeding syndrome. Refeeding syndrome usually occurs within four days of starting to feed. Patients can develop fluid and electrolyte disorders, especially hypophosphatemia, along with neurologic, pulmonary, cardiac, neuromuscular, and hematologic complications.
During prolonged fasting the body aims to conserve muscle and protein breakdown by switching to ketone bodies derived from fatty acids as the main energy source. The liver decreases its rate of gluconeogenesis thus conserving muscle and protein. Many intracellular minerals become severely depleted during this period, although serum levels remain normal. Importantly, insulin secretion is suppressed in this fasted state and glucagon secretion is increased.
During refeeding, insulin secretion resumes in response to increased blood sugar; resulting in increased glycogen, fat and protein synthesis. This process requires phosphates, magnesium and potassium which are already depleted and the stores rapidly become used up. Formation of phosphorylated carbohydrate compounds in the liver and skeletal muscle depletes intracellular ATP and 2,3-diphosphoglycerate in red blood cells, leading to cellular dysfunction and inadequate oxygen delivery to the body's organs. Refeeding increases the basal metabolic rate. Intracellular movement of electrolytes occurs along with a fall in the serum electrolytes, including phosphate, potassium and magnesium. Glucose, and levels of the B1 vitamin thiamine may also fall. Cardiac arrhythmias are the most common cause of death from refeeding syndrome, with other significant risks including confusion, coma and convulsions and cardiac failure.
This syndrome can occur at the beginning of treatment for anorexia nervosa when patients have an increase in calorie intake and can be lethal. The shifting of electrolytes and fluid balance increases cardiac workload and heart rate. This can lead to acute heart failure. Oxygen consumption is also increased which strains the respiratory system and can make weaning from ventilation more difficult.'
That's because you can't force someone to get treatment in the US unless they're a danger to themselves or others. You could argue that she is because of her severe ED, but unless she makes active threats, nothing can be done.
It's not like the UK where you can be sectioned. Sometimes for as long as 6 months, which can be extended further.
Compare that to the US, where the Baker Act only lasts for 72 hours.
I agree that she's beyond saving.
Forty pounds though? Holy shit… How is she still alive???
I mean, I really thought she was fifty or sixty pounds, I just can't see how it's possible to weigh forty pounds at her height. I really can't believe this.
Do you have more screenshots like this? I seriously cannot stop reading about her, it's fucking unreal.
I saw that on some thinspo group at vkhttp://vk.com/id186915190
Ashley is clearly one of their idols. Sick shit.
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Comment. Ick. Scary how many of these hardcore anorexics exist.
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I want to see more of this girl. Seems just as thin as Ashley but this one's still pretty. How does she have such tiny knees when Ashley has those gigantic knobby things?
Yeah, same reason some people with EDs outlive others probably. Bodies built differently in all kinds of ways.
I like this site http://www.2medusa.com/2009/03/pro-ana-mia-looking-for-thinspiration.html
I suppose it might be the kind of site someone who glorifies EDs would avoid. Bones are beautiful but please keep all the sores and scabs and bone deficiencies hidden kind of thing. I like recovery stories, how someone can go from this: http://img.ahaonline.cz/img/18/new_article/1795812-img-helen-gillespie-anorexie.jpg
to this: http://www.hrperth.co.uk/resources/0074%20Helen.jpg
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Back to Ashley, idk if this has been commented on. I wonder if it's true?
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I think Anon might've posted the THIN link because I'd been posting about non-Ashley links (thanks for youtube link btw, I'll watch that).
When I found out she was hamtaro-chan I thought maybe she'd had issues with people calling her fat on webcam, but then people here have said she looks like she already purged back then.
I'd think that a person would have to be pretty racist to begin with to believe they're responsible for the way she is now. Idk… the mind is a weird thing, but I don't tolerate racism.
Nov 3rd 2013 - twitter is making me.. racist. insert sad face
and that's not me. But for whatever reason a specific stereotype is harassing me
Nov 2nd 2013 - I am becoming extremely racist ^_^
April 5th 2014 - Too easy to make a racist joke.
sorry can't screenshot, but they're from her goodbye-atticus twitter
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I just looked for all the @s to her on twitter, but didn't find many. Not sure what this is all about
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People trying to put Erika off refeeding but she knows her stuff
Erika has time for everyone, yes she is in a rough place, yes she may have BPD but she is a fighter. She is kind. She has never said a bad word to anyone. She doesn't ask for gifts on a wish list. She smiles. She talks to her followers and makes friends. She researches how to make herself better and shares that with everyone.
I also like Erika
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Oh, the irony.
Even without being compared to Ashley she's appealing. She's kind, she's a good mum, and she's a tough bitch who isn't resigning herself to death. She wants to be someone her family can look up to and be proud of. Ashley just sits around having zero responsibility and feeds off a tragic disorder for gifts and attention.
Even if Ashley was healthy, I'd fucking hate her because unlike Erika, she has one of the shittiest personalities I've ever come across. If it wasn't an ED, she'd cut. If it wasn't cutting, it would be drugs, ect, ect. Ashley feeds off any sort of tragedy and uses it to further her own pleasures.>>33439
Yes, yes, yes.
Fuck you, Ashley.
She really seems to be trying hard and it's got to be so tough. Looks like she's getting decent psychiatric and medical treatment.
I'd like if she didn't hang out at social network/photo places because the pressure of having to deal with all the proana people must make it even tougher. I like how it's a big FUCK YOU to the ones who want her to stay ill.
I also like how Erika's posting pictures of herself and not exaggerating her tinyness. That whole thing really pisses me off and she's pissed me off. Same with cutters who post their cuts. I just don't get it.
yeah, I saw that. see above :/
it's all odd to me and I wouldn't want to think I was "triggering" anyone with the images.
Oh, fuck you. Ashley has support. She has a mother who provides food and shelter and the only reason she bitches about her mum is because she doesn't receieve the kind of attention that she WANTS. Ashley also has a bunch of Tumblrfags who worship her and send her food and gifts, come fucking on.
Ashley had the power to get better or not, obviously now she's gone too far to ever get better but she's had tons of people who have tried to give her services and resources and she rejects them outright.
Ashley has a place to stay. Her mother didn't throw her out/put her in care. She manages to find the cash to buy that expensive Japanese food she throws up and clothes from TopShop. She's well off compared to stacks of people.
She's also been hospitalised at times. She could've committed herself for treatment when she wasn't too far gone. She still COULD do things to make herself healthier but just whines.
As I'm writing this, the above was posted. Looks like most of us here feel the same way.
At one time being a /b camgirl was her "thing" now she's "internet famous" for being a walking skeleton. Without out, what's she got? She's such a waste of a person.
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Have you guys even seen her wishlist?
Straws - highest priority
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Food at high. Clearly straws are more important
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Cosplay also highest
"Trying to make it as easy as I can for others"?????
What an entitled brat.
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Hey look she a added this AFTER we all talked about her wish list and her using people for food.
Trying to look like a better person
I'm not sure how to feel about this.
I want it to be true, but…erghh.
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SIX chocolates for $23.99??
Why spend that much when it goes straight down the toilet?
I just gifted her the
Sephora Gift Card $50
Hope the taxi ride is affordable for her, or should I send her the fare too?
It's after we called her on using people
After we called her on binging
Since then several people have said we stopped them buying for her
It's a tactic. She's scared she'll lose her freebies
"List subtotal: $754.60 (34 items)"
holy crap. I…can't believe she has the nerve to do this?!
Now this is the funniest of them all…
wait, you're serious?
This thread has become HILARIOUS until this post
I have wants too but I don't post lists of them online to my large following of mostly young, disordered, vulnerable women and beg people to spend their money on me
Whatever floats your boat though
This this this
They hero worship here. Imagine all those kids who got money for Christmas and want to please her. It's their money yes but they are vulnerable
I think Starbucks is a disgusting corporation and I would never buy a Starbucks gift card for anyone or support Starbucks in any way.
Ashley is awesome, though, so yes, I have bought her stuff from her wishlist.
Not butthurt, it doesn't affect me in the slightest.
Just think it's incredibly crass, greedy and manipulative. Knowing you have this army of sycophantic young, vulnerable followers and getting them to fund your binges… leaves a bad taste in my mouth, no pun intended.
I think I want to have sex with you.
This is worded perfectly.
I wonder how much she gets? Her wish list is ever changing which leads you to think things get bought and replaced. I've seen about 5 of her fan on here and the last thread say they bought gifts from it but only seen Ashley post about gifts on tumblr once or twice.
It seems she gets a lot. Remember when she posted someone sent her a $50 gift card for a make up store?
You're right Ash. There are other things than food, and I know it's not JUST getting people to 'fund binges'. But just the whole thing… there's these young anorexic girls obsessed with you and you're begging for plushies and stuff? It just… it feels so crass to me. Don't you see that? I seem to remember before you posted your wishlist, you were saying 'I'm thinking about it but I don't think I can, it would feel too greedy and gross…' and yeah. It DOES come across as greedy. You understand that, right?
And I don't know why you're even mentioning Erika going to Disney. Who cares?? Erika isn't begging the internet for dvds and anime crap.
She can't go because she can barely move. Erika worked for her right to be functioning and moving around. Favoritism? Yeah, we fucking favor Erika because Ashley is just going to die. That's it. Why waste time on her when she could be dead tonight?
Have you seen the progress Erika has made? Have you seen how Ashley has tried to dissaude her from recovery? Fuck Ashley, she can't be saved and more importantly she doesn't DESERVE to be saved.
Spooky skeletons cannot be trusted.
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She is disappointed by your lack of goodwill towards her this year
Ok, sweetheart. I don't think you understand. Obviously, we're total dicks. Have you figured that out yet? We are lsughing at her, we're laughing at her friends. The more you defend her, the harder we are going to laugh because it's fucking funny to us.
Plus, Erika is so much better than Ashley.
Well, will she accept? Because I'm sure we would help her. We aren't that heartless. But there is a price to pay when you flaunt your disorder and revel in it in public. She's paying that price because it's funny.
If you don't understand, most everything we do is because it is funny. Sure, most of us REALLY genuinely don't want Ash to die, but that's about as far as our sympathy reaches when it comes her if she's going to reject any sort of help.
Like… maybe she should make a fucking ATTEMPT to gain weight? Even attempt ffs?
I would agree with this if it wasn't for the fact Ashley put all this information on the internet by herself.
She could've chosen to make her profiles private or to simply not reply to the negative anons, yet she keeps doing it.
It should be a given to understand that standing up to people on the internet is often going to backfire on you if you have dirty laundry hiding somewhere on the web.
Hence why we are Anonymous.
Except replacing defending with pointing and snickering.
Lol. Okay. I am Ash. Believe what you want. I support her. That's all.
Your mascot isn't going to be around for long if you all keep enabling her. There's no point in trying to tell her she's wrong either, she totally thinks she's innocent. She's too far gone to see anything but her own learned helplessness. It's pathetic.
And this whole debacle proves it, instead of taking these threads and going "Maybe I am doing something wrong, maybe I should at least try and focus on being a better person to those around me", she flips out.
She chose to turn this into what it is. What started as mere curiosity and information dumping became exposure because she's a liar and a bad person. Instead of handling it like an adult, she chooses to act like some ttlly kawaii manchild and rally her equally blind fans.
I feel bad for you, how can you take every word someone says as the truth when there's always more to it?
I've got no idea how I ended up getting wrapped up in this, but since you're obviously at least somewhat interested in me, here we go:http://theforestcat-says.tumblr.com/
You guys have made me realize that it's not a great idea to keep a blog on Tumblr, but other than that I'm just kind of in awe and disgust at this whole mess.
Yeah, you must have Aspergers if you think we're interested in you. You were brought up for like… two seconds. You're boring, go away.
And you are so fucking stupid for putting yourself on here just now. I hope for your sake that you don't end up a topic of discussion on here…
Yeah no one cares. This is a post about Ashley not you.
No one cares at all.
Okay back to the real subject.
soooooo…..you want us to favor Ashley over someone who is genuinely trying to live? HA.>>33496
are you mental. no one cares about the fucking wishlist like you do. we care about the fact that she's making it out to seem like she wants the food to get better when in reality she's got her head in the bin after ingestion.
you're missing every fucking point.
just stop trying, Ashley. you're not helping your case.
The progress she's made already is STUNNING. I'm so proud of her. She really loves her babies, she must be such a wonderful mother. She's so smart too, she's just fantastic.
Ashley makes it impossible to like her… She's just so rude. I mean, fine, starve to death, but don't be a cunt in the process.>>33568
We know it isn't easy, that's why we fucking like her. She's doing it. I don't care if she has some ED behaviors still, she's doing absolutely fabulous, we've seen before and after pictures. She's on her way, and that is why she is great.
you don't know Erica either. >'recovery' isn't as 'omg easy' as she's making it
you act like half the girls here haven't encountered ED's themselves or aren't in the throes of recovery. get the fuck off your damn horse.
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Can we talk about this? Wow. She almost looks like Hayley Williams or something.
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your point is what? who cares?
she's driving and walking with no help, something you claimed she couldn't do.
i think so because literally after that shop was posted someone came and called it 'gross'
This, this, this.
I haven't seen a picture of her driving at night. Erika is awesome.
There you have it, fags.
YOU CAN'T FIND ANYTHING BAD ABOUT ERIKA.
Yeah. IF she relapses I will absolutely support her. Why the hell wouldn't I?
You're disgusting for saying WHEN she relapses as if it's a given. You actually hope she does, don't you Ashley?
Of course she loves her babies and always will. Wtf.
I don't know much at all about her husband, but if he's not supportive then all the more reason to let her know how many people here are rooting for her, inspired by her, or proud of her.
Nope, staying here.
Yes, I'll support her when she relapses because that's bound to happen with this disease. I don't care about her husband. She'll always be a good mum.
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Erika's social media Christmas
>> family happiness food
Ashley social media Christmas
>> not exactly Christmas spritit 1990s
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She's so perfect
I like the end of the text she posted on that too…
" I miss me. The real, free me. The one who made choices I was proud of. I'm not fat here, I'm healthy, I'm happy, I'm loved. [please don't forget]"
Keep in mind, she came from THIS.>>33158
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Can't hear you over how perfect Erika as
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Such a positive soul. She's never bitter or weak
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Because she's an angel.>>33658
Wait, what is happening?
OK, THAT'S IT.
HANDS FUCKING DOWN, ERIKA IS AMAZING.
I seriously cannot fucking believe how kind it was for her to do this, it would've been so much easier to get a little depressed or bitter about her ex coming by with his gf or bf.
:D It's ok.>>33658>>33657
I'm so confused. Who is this? Please don't tell me Ashley has a sister or something.
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Wow, this girl almost makes Eugenia Cooney look normal by comparison.
SHE FREAKS ME OUT MORE THAN ASHLEY.
ugggh I don't know why…
She's probably a way better person than Ashley though. :/ Poor thing.
She's a YouTube star who gained popularity by posting a twerking instructional video.
(Sorry for going off-topic, guys.)
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>There's an eye makeup tutorial as well.
Get the look
"Erika said on her Tumblr that her husband brought on this relapse and implied she doesn't wanna be w him anymore."
O rly? that's why she posted the Christmas card he posted to her?
Post your wishlist url and I'll send you a gift!
(not really though)
The way she phrases it makes it sound like it wasnt something where he meant to do it, likely made a stupid comment and her mind took it too far and she relapsed. I do think he is supportive although likely doesnt 'get it', since he is there for her when she has seizures, is taking care of the kids, etc because she cannot. Its a rough position for him to be in.
Relationships going to shit is not uncommon, she just is not in a situation to really be on her own. Why leave the people who are her support system when she needs them the most? She also probably is staying for the kids, which is something a lot of females do.
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post proof. start a campaign. blog dat shit. you know, so we can more easily follow the lulz.
She was in a relationship with her!! She said it was a romantic relationship. Didn't any of you autists read her emergency mittens tumblr??
She's as manipulative as Ash, just better at it. Clearly since she has you idiots fooled.
YOU PEOPLE ARE MONSTERS.
Nice try with my name, dumbass.
But you're right. I should and very well might call the police.>>33737
I am contacting Tumblr now about my account. Get off of it now.
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You think PTSD is a joke?
If you don't get off my Tumblr account, I am calling the police. You have one hour.
WHICH THIS IS.>>33747
You people tell me.
I got to you badly enough for you to show your fat face though, ForestCunt. If you really admire Ashley, take the cue and starve yourself until you die of a heart attack.
I don't see anything that bad so far, except maybe the last 12 posts. Sometimes discussions naturally spin off in different directions.>>33780>>33769>>33770
These are stupid though. Don't do that.
Can we help her in any way? If someone was drinking a little bleach everyday so as to slowly die, someone would stop them ,s o why not this?
Why is this allowed? Why isn't she in hospital on an IV drip?
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Sorry, admin. In hindsight I was a bit of a faggot.
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LOL she wants attention so badly it's sad. Like someone said before, you were mentioned once and nobody cared. How exactly are we "going after Erica"? A majority of posts that have been made about her here are nothing but supportive. This bitch really is retarded and she looks the part too.
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MODS, MODS, MODS.
We need you, they're fagging up the thread.>>33825>>33826>>33830>>33832>>33833>>33835>>33836>>33837>>33840>>33834
mfw Ashley is implying that she doesn't flaunt.
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There's so many of these.
You all are so stupid.
The only reason why Erika posted those photos of her past, WAS BECAUSE IT'S WHAT YOU ALL WANTED TO SEE. She KNOWS what's being posted here, and you're eating out of her hands. This is so amusing to see how EASY you all are to please.
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I like this one uuuuuughhhh
you're not a "saint" or an "angel" for being so high and mighty as to, oh wow, "put up with" other people. holy shit, the fucking balls. she'd be a "saint" if she actually helped other people or did something for someone other than herself instead of being involved in internet drama.
also nice white trash phone case.
…So what if she does?
I'm not one of the retards who praise Erika but that still doesn't tell me shit.
Erika gained a follower.
Ashley loses a potential follower.
It's like Coca-Cola and Pesi.
And what? She is just showing aspects of her past. She posts plenty of up today's pics of herself. We know she's not going to go from emaciated to weight restored in 2 days of recovery. BUT at least she's trying so fucking hard. And you, you piece of shot ashley, you just want to see her fail an make your stupid comments about her calorie minimum. As if you haven't been to the clinics 25+ times, like you claim.
Bitch you know about that shit. You are disgusting and don't deserve to speak her name.
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lol trying to throw erika under the bus
~~i don't flaunt my therapy like SOME OTHER PEOPLE lol im so great~~~
could she be anymore transparent?
ps you totally just flaunted your therapy you fucking retard
Lel, most pathetic post ever. You have officially become obsessed with us Ashley. How meta.
And when you suddenly decide to start talking about going to therapy of course YOU don't consider it flaunting. If it's so personal, keep it that way you stupid dog.
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"Trying to work a payment plan. I pay for shit myself"
"Omg, moar retard tattoos to get"
Yeah, seriously. I'm just a lazy NEET living with my mother and I get Medicaid - for non-Americans, that's free socialised healthcare for poor people. I'm borderline retarded and it took me maybe twenty minutes online to obtain it earlier this year when I got booted off her insurance. I've been getting therapy and medication for quite a while off it with no complications whatsoever, besides having to call to switch HMOs. And I didn't have any trouble finding someone that would treat my weirdly specific conditions, either. Seriously, pretty much everybody accepts Medicaid in some form or another.
It's an issue for Erika since she's married, so she wouldn't be eligible. But Ashley most definitely would qualify. I sent her some messages a while back saying I could help her with the process since I'm in Florida too, but I never got a response - not saying she's obligated to respond, but there's no reason whatsoever for her to be paying for therapy out of pocket. Even if she doesn't get on Medicaid, there are community healthcare programmes that offer free services.
Then she should stfu about the shit she NeEDS but can't afford because she sure as hell is getting a lot of crap that isn't helping her mental health.
A hedonistic joy may be nice but it's fucking ephemeral. So guess what, it does nothing for her in the end. Treatment could actually change her life for the better. Unless you think Japanese candy can do that…in that case I shouldn't have wasted all my time in therapy.
Hey Ash, I know you'll ignore this link, but I'm posting it anyway, since you claim to have "no support."
I wouldn't be surprised if they could even help you with transport.
Actually, transportation for any medical services, including psychological care, is covered by Medicaid in Florida. I believe there's a $1 copayment, but that's all. All you need to do is be able to get outside your house to have them pick you up. Where I live, there's a van that serves this function, although once a volunteer woman drove me in her car. They're shockingly accommodating.
Also, you say 'you pay out of pocket because the situation is difficult,' which is quite vague, but if you do not have any income, you are eligible for the full benefits of Medicaid and food assistance. Please do get on the programme. There is absolutely no reason that you can't get Medicaid no matter what extreminating circumstance you have. But by some freakish chance you're unable to, there are community volunteer healthcare services you should look into, and there are always ways to get free care if you put in the slightest bit of effort looking into it.
I also didn't say anything about Erika. It fucking sucks that people like us can't afford the best quality of everything that exists, but that's simply the way it is, and we can do the best we can with what we have. There's always a way to get what we need in the end.
Look, I was so terrified that I'd have to talk to someone that I put off the process for months, going without the treatment I needed, but when I was finally forced to do it, it was unbelievably simple. I know you're scared and with good reason, but you just need to do this.
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Panic attacks for eighteen years here,they suck, but fucking deal with it. You're going to die if you don't.>>33919
Ash's family should be ashamed of her.
Oh shut up Ashley. You don't live in the country, you won't be going to bum fuck nowhere. Travel can be free through insurance or state programs (which florida has a lot of).
And she isn't stepping out of her comfort zone. She is lying so her followers don't see through her bullshit and stop buying her crap. She's lying to get the heat off of herself.
Wtf are you talking about? Ashley has a ton of followers who support her.
The only reason the wish list comes up because it is obvious evidence that this woman prioritizes childish toys and crap over funding her treatment.
So what if Erika has someone else footing her bill. As was stated, there are plenty of free or cheap resources she could be taking advantage of.
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>> three ~*important*~ packages to save for
How about stop sending people shit they don't need. Stop buying junk food. Stop buying cosplay.
Yes it is NICE to buy things you like. It feels good. But you have to sacrifice that for what is important. More therapy sessions could save your life. You could get healthy enough to work. And then you can buy ALL THE THINGS.
Yeah it isn't as ~*easy*~ as that but it's a start surely!
>> too bad if you don't like me
Well maybe if you did the above we would. Maybe if you made an effort, put all your money into therapy, began to eat. Hell, if you gained 40lb I would personally send you that beauty gift card! ~*POSITIVE REINFORCEMENT YA'LL*~
I preferred it when she ignored this thread because now it's
- someone makes a valid point
- people discuss and agree
- she turns up and defends herself
- minions defend her
- some minions get converted (see the 3 people who said because of us they aren't sending her shit now
- she posts something about it on tumblr
- all minions are even more brain washed because they are too dumb or young or both to work out it's propaganda
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This was probably her lowest weight
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I feel as if I can take my finger, and just gently touch her head, her body would fall back, abd break like glass.
Apparently multiple people have tried to help Ashley find help but she repeatedly refuses so she can keep complaining how she has no help.
And for fuck's sake Ashley, stop using the fact that Erika may have more resources to try to put her down or say you're trying harder. You obviously don't even care about her if you are bitter or jealous instead of happy for her. There have been people going out of their way to try to help you.
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>>hey look it's Ash
Screencaps of this not-public rudeness of Erika then? because I have trouble believing that. Instead of calling us 'easily fooled' why not show us some proof. Because so far we're just basing it on what we actually see which is a really lovely, kind and strong woman.
Apparently we're fools though for basing our opinions on what we see rather than some anon who has nothing to say except that we're wrong. With no proof. LOL.
Lol, no of course it's not always their true self. But since no one is offering any proof that it's NOT her true self, why should we just be like 'okay the persona Erika portrays is totally wrong because someone said so without even explaining why'?! Come on.
I don't just blindly believe everything anyone says on the internet, BUT I do base my opinions on, you know… stuff I can actually see.
If you've apparently seen this other side to Erika that shows she's a liar and not a nice person then can you share it with us? Because until then I'm gonna choose to believe YOU are the liar. Like I said… I base my opinions on what I can SEE.
No but I wouldnt be hardcore kissing her ass like this site is either.
I'm pretty new here but most of you all are more savvy than this. Like I said. Thread when she was first mentioned she got ripped apart. I think ppl will turn the second she fucks up. That's what irks me. Half the ppl stanning clearly didn't even read her baleeted tumblr.
I think most people aren't hardcore kissing her ass… just acknowledging and praising the steps that she's taking.
What was so bad on her old tumblr? I saw some of it, but nothing bad, but I only followed her for a few weeks.
There was nothing bad, she was open about her abuse and some people saw it as attention seeking when she was frank and clearly open as her way of dealing with it.
She wasn't saying OMG MY LIFE IS SO BAD I WAS ABUSED. It was more; I am like this because I was abused, this is what happened, I'm getting. Better now.
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Her recovery is so beautiful
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Such thinspo. Much bones on show. Wow.
No one is talking about Erika wtf (at least in the post)
I won't compare Ash to Erika, because how one persons behaves doesn't affect what other person is or how I perceive it.
I personally don't care for Erika, she's better than Ash, woop de doop almost everyone is.
She's recovering and that's awesome. But I don't care for her.
I'm here for Ashley drama, not to be Erika's fangirl.
except I've never kissed Erika's ass.
She only 'doesn't care' now because it was brought up here and she realised it was a way to make herself look 'better' than her ex-bff. Whatever.
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She's talking about cosplaying. There is absolutely no need to even mention the wheelchair, let alone use it to snipe at someone else.
I also want to reiterate that we're all posting about Erika because Ashley insists on comparing herself to her for the purpose of making her look better – and because she keeps being so nasty to her 'BFF' and 'loved one' while pretending to be caring. And the more we negate Ashley's assertions here, the more she shits on Erika, which we retaliate against. It's completely self-perpetuating; if Ashley had never started knocking Erika here, no one would be talking about her at all. So she's basically using her.>>34059
Don't see how this is true with Ashley's spiteful and hate-filled barbs she's directed at Erika over both their Tumblr accounts, both their Instagram accounts, and this very thread.
Agree. And it's inane for you to think we are supposed to judge Erika on some mysterious truth about her "true colors". The normal thing to do is judge ppl based on their actions and own words, not gossip from butthurt anon Ashley.
I personally don't care if she hates this thread or the ppl in it. It is negativity that she chooses to stay away from, but you bask in it.
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>> #mental health
That's #being a brat
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Yep. Everything she posts even her wish list is that of a child. Like her 1990s obsession, her childhood.
I wonder if something happened to her as a kid. Would explain her being stuck at that age. Would explain a lot
Gia stopped being a topic of discussion a long ass time ago, though.
No one in here has any problems with her aside from Ash and her white knight army.
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These are used in injecting insulin
She's having refeeding
Right. Because recovering from an ED is "personal" and shouldn't be talked about. Unlike, say, talking about her eating disorder (or making thinly veiled attacks on other people, or accusing her mother of being abusive). Those things are not personal.
Cherry-picking this sort of shit as to what's too "personal" to share and what's not, all to try to make other people feel bad about what they share? She's a cunt, in recovery or not.
Alcohol swabs are used for a lot of things. If she had insulin that would mean she was being medically monitored, which she is not because that would mean seeing a doctor and risking getting hospitalized on the spot.
This is probably to clean self harm wounds, because binging and purging aren't destructive enough, she also does things like rips off her fingernails and drinks energy drinks that she knows could give her a heart attack.
She's not a "bad" person. But she is delusional and manipulative and has done things that are hurtful and that most people would consider bad. But most people with EDs do not
act like that at all. She has otherissues that will continue even if she recovers. If it's not starving herself she'll find some other destructive behavior whether it's drugs, more self harm or risky sexual behavior. With Ashley her self destruction is tied to her BPD and that won't go away even if she recovers from her ED.
Could be anything imo, sometimes some people don't need a big push if they have already some disorders (like Ash most likely have).
She's older than me but she's like teens with whom I can't connect, probably because she didn't really experience adulthood like she should have. No job, no responsibilities …
I've noticed there's a lot of anorexics who got problems with being adults, and Ashley situation reminds me of Isabelle Caro (who passed away sadly, I think her mom didn't want her to grow up or something).
Honestly I don't really think she has a big childhood trauma besides her father not being here. I've got the feeling that if Ash had a tangible example she'd flaunt it to garner even more pity, kinda like she sometimes quotes her mom on her blog. I think she only has some mental disorder and being anorexic is just one way to achieve whatever she wants to achieve, like others said, she could abuse alcohol or drugs. I hope she can fight her demons because just gaining weight isn't going to help her in the long term. Really I can't hate someone who seem so unhappy with their life with (seemingly) no reasons. I don't care much that she's a rotten asshole, her life is terrible.
"I had a very complicated childhood, very difficult, very painful. My mother's big phobia was that I would grow. She spent her time measuring my height. She wouldn't let me go outside because she'd heard that fresh air makes children grow, and that's why I was kept at home. It was completely traumatic."
- Isabelle Caro
He, I never said everyone should pity her or even like her. I know she's rotten and annoying, I just find her mild personnally. Kiki is much much worse and can't stop lying, stealing things left and right and trying to ruin peoples' life. At least Ash never indirectly killed someone.
It's not forgivable but everytime I see her I just think how fucking terrible it would be to be aching from everywhere, being hungry all the time, having no energy, being afraid of falling or bumping into shit … How does she even poop ? Her ass is nothing but bone, how does it feel to lose your teeth, etc…
Kiki is a complete bitch and doesn't even have to deal with that. All in all I find Ashley kinda ok, if I didn't eat for 3 days I would tear everyone a new asshole. At best I find her snarky and annoying [just my 2 cents, I also understand why someone might hate her]
It's actually appalling. It's like having a suicidal patient sitting in your office taking one pill after another or slowly bleeding out and trying to talk about feelings. Either Ashley is really
good at manipulating (though you can just look at her and see she needs to be hospitalized) or her therapist is basically criminally negligent. Or he's imaginary.
Exactly why I'm always suspicious when she claims she's getting help. In her state, help would require her to consent to inpatient, which she obviously is never going to do.
I could be wrong, she could have made an outpatient agreement similar to some others, where as long as an intake and appointments are met she won't have to go, but that's a very far fucking stretch for someone who's 40-50 pounds. Very fucking far.
I agree that unconventional methods do work for a lot of cases, my own included. But, hear me out, would you honestly be able to look at her as a medical professional in person and say "You definitely have time to live, let's do what works best for you."
Any proper doctor would absolutely have to stabilize her body first, so her mind can have a chance. That's all anyone wants, but she won't try enough. She may be trying, but she's not doing what she needs.
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Found this on that page. Wut.
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She doesn't want to recover, she's getting attention for being a skeleton and she's getting free shit for starving herself to death.
She won't get better, she doesn't have any motivation to do so.
People who send her stuff are not helping her get better, they're rewarding her shitty behavior.
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Nobody here wants to see her fail. Omg.
She obviously hasn't changed up until like a few days ago because o the valid points made on this thread against her shitty behavior.
She has changed when she has taken real genuine actions towards change.
Fuck off, some does not mean all, so maybe you should stop with your shitty blanketing statements.
And tell me dear anon, how do YoU know shit about her? You can't claim that I don't yet you somehow do. Unless you're ashley herself. Which you probably are because she's totes obsessed with this thread
no, still shitty.
look at how flat the skin is. also that blurry mess of her neck and shoulder
whoever drew this, they actually made her shoulders SMALLER than in the original, too. idk how this is supposed to be 'ok', it's not even anatomically correct.
She was in a coma?
>>34233>If somebody had cancer you wouldn't say "sorry. You are too far gone. It's pointless to keep trying."
I would, actually. There comes a point when your quality of life is so poor that death is a better alternative.
It's like having to put a beloved pet to sleep when they're ill. When you have a very old cat with some kind of disease, and it reaches the point where it seems to be in constant pain and can't even stand up any more, you must put it down as the kindest act that could be done.
I believe the same thing goes with people. If I ever had a severely retarded child, or a once-healthy child that couldn't do anything due to some kind of illness, I think that mercy killing is the answer.