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Also sorry that I don't know how to type.
I'm super picky these days. They are definitely not like they used to be. It takes a lot of work to find one decent to watch. I recently got back into watching it again, some very disappointing some good. For example One Punch Man
and Mobile Suite Gundam
are pretty much my favorites right now. Still working on osomatsu-san anime
. It's pretty much a hit or miss now.
I have observed, I don't think they're as bad as you make out.
Stop making women look like paranoid lunatics.
It's the same with any cow thread. If she's pretty she's 'not that good looking/ pretty average imo', if she's average then she's 'ugly lolololol'.
Dakota's pretty successful imo but the thread is full of jealous weebettes nitpicking every single detail of her life when they'd like nothing more than to wear her skin and they know it. Just like those PULL girls who are fat and ugly and shit on Dakota yet always shoop themselves to look like her which just makes them look more haggard (Marzanna, anyone?)
Like yeah Dakota's shoops are fucking ridiculous at this point but this has been going on longer than that and she is a genuinely pretty girl anyway.
It's fucking pathetic. I feel so bad for the girls who post that kind of embarrassing shit in /pt/, they must be such insecure, ugly little trolls to let pictures of cute weebs trigger
them like that. And they always sound 12 too.
Why is this happening to every of those platforms though? This PULL-tier nitpicking always takes over. I'd rather have a slow board for following lolcows that actually produce milk.
'Lololol, nasolabial folds, looks like 40, photoshops.' isn't milk. Yet most threads on pt consist to 60% of posts like these.
But what about 69?
Is it still demeaning to suck cock if he simultaneously gets smothered by my pussy?
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anime men are superior to 3D men.
My unpopular opinion:
I think sometimes anons are jelly of certain cows (for having money/being popular or privileged) or their looks, so they nitpick, even if subconsciously.
(If you're reading this, Vicky, this isn't about you because you look like a blonde ogre anyway lmao).
Sometimes I wonder if same anons would nitpick like that IRL, with people around to judge them for their own skin/hair/fat/nasolabialfolds/whatever. Probably not.
I draw very well (I don't even know why because it's not a skill I've really practiced) and read some yuri manga sometimes when I'm bored, but that's it.
I haven't watched anime in ages except for my 90s childhood favorites every now and then. I stopped being a weeb and caring about Japan related stuff in my early teens, a decade ago.
So I don't understand anything about cosplaying, jrock, cons or the current anime, etc … Or why grown people like those things.
It's hard for me to understand why anyone past the age of 18 would be a weeb or obsessed with Japan/kawaii stuff/Venus and jvloggers. I'm like… Why??
And now we have the koreaboos. That makes me cringe even more because it's a carbon copy.
I think asian makeup looks retard on Westerners. and circles lenses look bad on anyone.
wtf why would you want an asian nose
I used to want one in my weeby middle school/high school phase. And I'm not even joking. I hated how pointy my own nose was and all. But yeah, now I'm long outta that phase and love my own nose.
That said, I do think a lot of anons are too picky when it comes to pointing out flaws. I'm mainly checking the jvlogger thread, and in all honesty, people overreact about Kim's jaw, Bii's so-called manly face, and Sharla looking like a hobo. Also, who tf cares if people in their late 20s wanna wear pokemon clothes and whatsnot?!
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I love the "fakeboi" style and would dress that way if I had any balls. Granted most of the girls who dress like that are major cows, but the fashion itself is cool.
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I'm all for tomboy and androgynous girls but the uber pastel fakeboi style pisses me off. The pink, sparkly, weeb clothing is just tacky. I don't mind the typical fakeboi hairstyles or piercings, though.
And I know everyone hates criedwolves but I do like some of his outfits.
I don't understand why people get their panties in a twist about genders on this website. Sure, a lot of people aren't actually agender or gender fluid or whatever, but who cares. If they want to go by they pronouns, whatever idgaf.
Overwatch sucks. Terrible game.
SJW isn't much of an insult and anti-SJW people are equally as cancerous to actual social justice.>>173474
I used to try to look and dress androgynous, so I think fakeboi styles is really hot.
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I honestly don’t understand how people can like Sherlock. The writing isn’t impressive like people tout it to be, the concept of these grown men being seen as « cute » baffles me, and honestly I can’t get over the cliched shitty writing. Yes there are shitter shows that exist, but they never try to be seen as 2deep4u like this show and it’s fans try to make it out to be. Sherlock and Moriarty « killing » themselves was the nail in the coffin.
I liked Sherlock (Season 1 was pretty decent, and the acting was really nice imo) until A Scandal in Belgravia since I couldn't stand the idea of Irene Adler fall for Sherlock (even Moffat said himself in an interview that they had a 'night' of sorts after Sherlock rescued her from Karachi. And do I even need to mention Benadryl's interview that they're actually a thing) actually pissed me off.
Not saying this because I'm "just another Johnlocker" but because I've been a fan of ACD's Sherlock for a long time and bothered changing Irene Adler's character and making her fall for Sherlock just for shipbait (same goes for Watson with the subtext being shown in the show) just irritates me to no end.
>I can’t get over the cliched shitty writing.
Same here. tbh I really want to rant all day about this show but I don't want to waste more of my time typing it all down.
>>212488>tfw it's my favorite show
I-I just really like it and think it's fun and cool.
The fandom is terrible though,in general the superwholock fandom is FULL of tumblrinas and you know how they are…
I like the "memes" that came out of the show too because i'm super lame (I still use the "JAWN" one with friends sometimes)
they are either trying to make the cow insecure (if the cow reads the thread) or they are underage PULL retards that try to be mean by saying stuff like that.
I've only seen a few examples where the ageing argument is justified. Such as with Dumdolly
>>215697>Some people take too far on some cows, Moo, for example.
It's a shit thread with shittier people being enabled by overzealous modding. You're better off hiding that stink bomb. Anons there are extra vitriolic because they're fellow cosplayers extremely pissed that Moo is in their fandoms and making more money.
I kind of understood it when she was flaking her Patreon and doing questionable things with charity money, but the reality is 80% of the time people are shitting on her because they think she's ugly or thinks she's too fat when she does deliver her lewds. That's not milk, that's horseshit and it belongs on /snow/.
I agree totally and whenever I point out anons are really reaching, I get called a whiteknight even when I'm still shitting on the person.
Honestly, a lot of anons here are just irrationally salty and themselves are pretty crazy. I'm sure a lot of posters would be cows here themselves if they had well known social media pages.
>>215722>they're fellow cosplayers extremely pissed that Moo is in their fandoms and making more money
Yeah, it gives that impression to me as well. I don't like saying anons are jealous of cows but many people in that thread are clearly jealous of Moo. We get that she has fucked up a lot but a lot of people there seem to get off real hard on calling her fat or picking up the tiniest stupid details. I went there a bit ago and people were mad her kitten had worms and hoping it would scratch her face. Like ffs every kitten in Earth has worms at some point. Also people get really mad their fandoms are cosplayed. Like every single cosplayer ever cosplays shit they don't care about because it's being hyped, Yaya and Nigri included.
You have to be pretty extreme Vendetta-chan to expect something bad to happen to a cow. No exceptions, really, except for maybe Margo that fucked up another human being directly and is inherently evil.
eh, her constantly changing aesthetic and pretentiousness is annoying and cringey but it's not worth the massive outroar people are giving her, I get being upset over stealing/mimicking art and not giving credit to the artist but again it's not worth the outroar
> people always try to make her look like she’s a pedo just because she got pajamas from the boys’ section
holy shit, that's crazy, where at?
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in the PULL thread about her, they’re spazzing because she said she got her pajamas from the little boy’s section and said “why couldn’t she say kids?”. it was obvious that she said it before people asked but holy shit do they reach.
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I really dislike when women don’t dress for their body type. I find overweight people pretty gross, and really can’t stand it when they cosplay. I can’t get behind the body pos movement.
No, I totally agree. I think this is a good example of that- but the legs freak me out. Like the knees, they look melt-y.
I’m not very picky about things like clothes, hair or make up on people. I actually would say that Tess does her hair and make up well, and she seems to have nice skin (from the images I see). I actually think she’s got a lovely face, too. Genetics played out super well. But I just don’t get the morbid obesity. And I don’t understand the celebration of it. Why is this a good thing?
Lol and you pick that outfit as the example? And that's Tess Holiday, she's dressed more scantily and grosser than that. Or is that your point? That it's one of her better
outfits? Because if not then lol @ you sweet summer child.
Not skelly at all. But not fat, either.
I don’t think she should be a model, and I also don’t think anyone with too low of a a BMI should be a model, either. I live in the USA, and lots of people die from heart disease, far more than anorexia on my end.
It’s a dangerous lifestyle to maintain, either way. And with one far more prevalent within epidemic proportions, there shouldn’t be models displaying it as a good thing. It’s why I’m in an unpopular opinion thread, and not shouting this from my roof.
yeahhh, i thought it was like something a skeletal would say too. i find obese and morbidly obese people gross too and i wouldn't date one, but "overweight people shouldn't do stuff"? weird. fyi to that anon too >>215773
overweight =/= obese (tess is morbidly obese). but i'm not attacking you for your opinion, its fine. its just that overweight can look different on people while obese is an ugly blob on all types (which is what i think you meant). anyways both things will kill you so whatever.
hbomberguy on youtube has a god damn MOVIE about this. like he made a video that's nearly two hours long about how much he hates sherlock and how shitty the show is. I don't like the show either, but i didn't think much of it. Till i stumbled across that video one night and i watched the whole thing. It was a fascinating ride. You might enjoy it but like i said its super long. i had popcorn and everything, went to bed at 5 am, 10/10 watch.
tl;dw: he basically said the exact
same things you said in those three lines of text lol.
if anyone is intersted in anything he might have discussed:
Part 1, The Story of Steven Moffat 3:03
Part 2, Overarching Plot 7:14 (he talks about Jekyll at 14:33)
Part 3, Sherlock the All-Important Ubermensch 27:14
Part 4, Moriarty 39:30
Part 5, Aesthetics or, How to Waste License-Payer Money 47:06
Part 6, John Watson 55:11
Part 7, Mary Watson 56:58
Part 8, Irene Adler 58:20
Part Kill Me, THE SCENE 1:04:16
Part 10, Literally everything about Season 4 1:08:54
Part 11, Contempt 1:34:28
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fakebois are hot as fuck imo too. people on lolcow seem to despise the style, but i don't get it. to a lot of lesbians tomboy, androgynous, fakebois etc are hot. so when people go and on about how much they hate the style i'm always taken back. because its attractive to me and to lots of people, idgi. i guess they assosiate anything remotely like it to the tumblr crowd but really its a gay crowd thing.
my gf used to rock that style and it was awesome, love me some fakebois. i do get that its not for everyone
though, like fake-gay lainey for example.
Idk man, it was fine 10 years ago. But past years it has become increasingly worse with immigrants taking over areas in cities (Islamify them and harass n threaten other folks) plus all these fucking Afghanistan “children” that “hangs” at train stations and other busy spots in the city.
I’m afraid to walk home alone nowadays, it didn’t used to be like this.
As a german i feel you… people really aren't exaggarating when talking about theses problems.
My town has around 5000 inhabitants, but there are 300 refugees (all of them male), that's very noticable, especially since before the only foreigners were 2-3 eastern europeans. With other countries everybody is always considerate, saying they are homogenous and have never seen other cultures, but even if a good bunch of the people here have never really left this area and are very shocked/scared by that nobody cares.
When i was 17 the ones first came her and me and my friends honestly mistook them for some hot construction workers, but no, even a few years later they are still "minors", like how does nobody notice that they're all lying about their age?!
When they first came here everybody donated clothes, but they threw everything away, only brands for them…
The thing - other than getting creepily hit on (especially since they only go out in very large groups) - is seeing them standing there dressed from head to toe in expensive brands, playing with the newest iphone while a deathly skinny german grandma is collecting plastic bottles out of a garbage bin next to them.
Most people say they are absolutely pro-refugees, but when we are in private we actually all agree on this topic but we all know that speaking out against it would get you in serious trouble…
Interesting to read, I'm your very close neighbour and in my country saying you're pro-refugees will get you in trouble. You'll be ridiculed and looked down upon, for sure. Here being pro-refugee is an "unpopular opinion", only for "lefties" who are a minority.
Lolcow is very TERF-y, so I guess it will be considered unpopular - I'm attracted to ftm. I follow some on instagram and they are HOT, damn how great was the change for them! Also the fact that they know how it is to be a girl, how our mind works, what we want, what we don't like, is very appealing. Men just don't get some things, we are very different after all, and having a bf who just gets you must be nice.
Most "TERF-y" people don't have anything against ftms. Since they're female, they're usually a lot less problematic
, perverted, and insane.
When i said it will get you in trouble i not only meant with other people but actually possibly even with the law, so…
Something that i forgot to add before is that there have been cases, there refugee homes have been set on fire and all the politicians and newspapers were like "oh the nazis are at it again" but later they found out that the refugees themselves set it on fire and drew a swastika on the wall beforehand to make it seem like the work of the right wring - that's some downright evil shit to do to a country that let's you live comfortable for free…
In fear of being labeled racist or culturally insensitive they don't even divorce child marriages, only fine them with a meek 1000€; before all of this i hoped that letting them come here would at least safe the poor girls, but they're still as oppressed by their own families as before…
Speaking of, here's my unpopular opinion. I really don't get the appeal of butch/androgynous girls. Why do so many lesbians find masculine traits so attractive in women? I'm a lesbian myself but I like women who look feminine. Not saying that girls that are into the masculine look aren't 'true lesbians' or any bullshit like that but I'm curious as to why it's so popular.
I'm super hypocritical though since I adopted the fakeboi style even though I dislike it just to have better luck with girls lmao
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I'm probably no the best to explain this because I like both femme and tomboyish or a mix of the two
but the idea of having some who's masculine without actually being male is an attractive idea, like they relate to you better and on a deeper level, at least that's what I think
All I know is I'm gay as fuck and I love women but "princely" type women that you sometimes see in anime is especially nice too
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I’ve been a loving fan of Lupin the 3rd since I was 16. (I’m 29 years now) I love Lupin and his dynamic with Jigen and Goemon but I try to not get to triggered by other Lupin fans shipping them together. I just don’t get it. They’re all straight canonically but I can’t stop others from enjoying their ships. Oh well…
It is the ultimate unpopular opinion.
Try saying it to your mom or your boss or your friend or that stranger in the bus.
>>216058>weight loss surgery for example is a total waste of resources
But it's not, and I'd love to see your source stating otherwise.
The system is burdened more if you don't provide help to high risk groups, be it that they caused their problems as it may, because without assistance their conditions worsen.
In the United States, before ACA, many poorer people or those who did not qualify for coverage based on pre-existing conditions, would be forced to wait until their conditions led them to visit ERs and the monetary burden would land on the shoulders of taxpayers–but at a substantially greater amount than had they preventative care options.
Weight loss surgery provides long term results only when the individual makes a permanent lifestyle change afterwards. Which, correct me if I'm wrong, they could do without the surgery and they simply won't. And yeah maybe the threat of literally ripping open an internal organ is the push they need. Doesn't mean I think we should pay for it when the other option, losing weight by eating the right amount of calories, is absolutely free and will need to be done anyways.
The preemptive measures should be education and better healthcare so these "addictive" behaviors can be properly sorted out. I know that mental health is a huge gaping hole in our health coverage so I'm not pretending this is feasible at the moment, but in the future it'd be in everyone's best interests.
>>216064>they could do without the surgery and they simply won't
There's different reasons, but the surgeries are shown to improve long-term weight loss outcomes. 65% of dieters who lose a significant amount of weight by traditional means are likely to regain within three years (other studies claim 90% or more). >the threat of literally ripping open an internal organ
Well gastric bypasses are not the only type of surgery. There's also lap bands, which involve no cutting of any organ.>lose weight by eating the right amount of calories
Yeah but it's not working anon. Yet like you said, there's probably a gap in mental, nutritional, and physical counseling that amounts to these struggles for these people. I just don't see how gutting healthcare helps people when the opposite has been shown.
I thought it was a cute movie but it's not the super introspective, re-watchable Disney masterpiece about society and culture that everyone hyped it up to be.
It really wasn't all that deep.
Same here. I don't think they deserve to be called animators if that's the quality they'll pull off.
Idk but if you're going to be an animator at least try to practice drawing people and not stick with the shitty reddit style that looks as though it came out of ms paint. I can't help but feel like this is a slap to the face to animators in general who actually make better quality animations than the majority of those Youtube animators. It's also weird that someone irl started an animation channel in YT despite not learning animation by herself?
Idk I'm just sad and mad that more and more of these people pop out in the YT community and I don't want ppl in general to think animators are just like those youtuber "animators". I feel like this is one of the many reasons why people don't take actual animators seriously.
this is what i meant by "suicidal copycats" https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Copycat_suicide
>A copycat suicide is defined as an emulation of another suicide that the person attempting suicide knows about either from local knowledge or due to accounts or depictions of the original suicide on television and in other media.
basically my theory is that all these shitty depression memes have caused teenagers to copy each other in their "mental illness uwu" bc its just human nature (but its still obnoxious and now i don't believe anyone about it)
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Where is this stuff being said??
Sounds ridiculous, especailly >someone is worthless because they have sex
what the fuck
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Lil peep made good music.
Yes! The fact that so many people think this A. should've won goty and B. is the best persona/smt game triggers
The soundtrack is good, some of Meguro's best work, but almost everything else about it is just… okay. Some things I didn't like off the top of my head are how it's about 40 hours longer than it needed to be, all the hand holding, the gaudy aesthetic (seems to be a very unpopular opinion), the occasional mixed messages, Igor's new VA, the Nutshack font on the tarot cards, "effin," RYUJI as a whole, etc. I see the appeal, but I persona-lly didn't like it. Thought it was pretty boring and playing it felt like a chore.
Worth noting that this is coming from someone who's most likely suffered servere brain trauma from playing the project diva games for over 700
hours though. Maybe I have weird standards. If you liked P4 the most, you'll probably love it. If you're a P2 fag, idk.
I loved the characters from P2 (especially Eikichi) but the random encounters gave me nightmares and I thought the storyline was completely incoherent.
But I have heard from a lot of people that P5 was way too long. Even with your review, I’m still looking forward to being able to buy a new playstation one day and play it.
>>218304>I thought the storyline was completely incoherent.
Hmph. Does that include 2EP? If so, this is hate speech.
Anyways… PS3s are cheap as shit rn fyi. I got one in great condition and a few games for $60 on ebay. Very easy to make "backups" too if you buy one of the right models. That's what I did lol fatlus won't see a cent from me until SMT6.
Nah, I’ve only played P2 Innocent Sin, the PSP port. I went into it, expecting something relatively restrained, and I have no idea how it ended with me fighting Hitler. But honestly, I really did love the characters!
But I had no idea about PS3s being that cheap, I’ll really have to look at eBay or something if you can find them for $60. Thanks for the tip, anon.
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>>221789>virgin killer sweater
That sweater is fugly on everybody and the same people could wear that equaly memey keyhole sweater and look 1000x sexier.
s2g people only wear the former thinking they can be the ones to pull it off and just nah.
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I unironically enjoy Cardi B's music.
I fucking loathe reaction gifs. They always mess up my feed and make it sluggish, and even worse a lot of websites use them for articles. They're not fucking funny.>>216058
I agree with everything else you said but weight loss surgeries are necessary sometimes. Some people have a weakened sense of feeling full and something like gastric bypass surgery usually has great results and a tremendous improvement to the patient's overall health. It's usually used as a last-ditch effort anyway.
So the women who are interested in studying are socialised differently to other women? Or they're just randomly breaking the mould because..?
Maybe some of us don't believe the ~society is sexist~ trope and think that it's completely possible for women to make their own choices, free of the asspats from IG.
>>225690>>225700>gender imbalance in STEM etc is actually because women aren't interested in studying lmao
My biggest turnoff for STEM wasn't because I didn't want to study it (I have a postgrad in useless librul artz, I actually love learning and like science).
It's because I got a taste of the shitty gatekeeping from the science courses I took from both men AND other women.
From men because I was a stupid woman encroaching on their
field. Even other women size up newbie females because they fall into misogynistic mindsets.
I'm no social scientist, but I can see why a lot of women lean towards dreaming about being makeup tutorial youtube stars where they get validation for doing something they love.
As opposed to? Struggling in a field where they're under-appreciated, told they aren't doing enough, having to deal with toxic work environments, and things not improving much until they have a solid seniority whereby they repeat the cycle on their underlings…I mean gee.
You can say what you want, but some women don't see value in putting themselves through that kind of rigamarole. Just because a few women lucked out and didn't suffer through those circumstances, doesn't mean that's not the case for what others have experienced.
I think it's a bit of both. I work in a very male-dominated field and there was definitely some harsh gatekeeping going on, especially at first. I got the impression that I was representing my entire gender if that makes sense, and any mistakes I made would be attributed to women as a whole in my field rather than just me as an individual. I can really see how that would put women off. But I also think that generally speaking, women tend to lean towards more creative fields so a bit of gender imbalance in other fields would make sense. It's less about how many women there are and more about how those women are treated when they're there imo.
I should mention I don't like the other sort of gatekeeping where girls are told that if they don't do STEM/some other 'masculine' job then they're stupid and shallow either. I've seen more of that in recent years and it pisses me off.
Sounds like you need friends who share interests. My female friends are a microbiologist, a bass player, studying literature full-time, and a cabinet maker respectively. Three of those are male dominated but those girls do just fine.
There’s heaps of women who love science and maths and engineering and all that, you just haven’t found them. >>225700
lmao domo arigato Mr roboto.
My (male) partner works in STEM and experiences all of this. It’s not unique to women in STEM (or any field), just part of working an actual normal job, rather than being overly congratulated by superficial strangers for achieving blended eyeshadow for the 400th time. I’m not saying sexism and misogyny doesn’t happen, because it totally does, but I personally feel a lot of women get put off at the first sign of difficulty. >>225800
Hence my greentext. I’d like to find them but every girl I meet is pretty much the same? Just interested in lipstick and libfem social discourse. Like that’s cool, but can we discuss other stuff as well?
Sage for #notlikeothergirls fag
Where are you looking? I follow pathologists and morticians on Instagram and have met some cool women who enjoy discussing the grosser points of pathology and epidemiology and all that good shit.
If you’re not looking within the communities that discuss and enjoy this stuff you’re obviously less likely to find anybody sharing your interests. Do a course related to it, or look for groups online. Plus keep in mind a lot of people don’t discuss that stuff unless they know the other party is interested because it’s hard to make friends by discussing anencephaly or why some schizophrenics smell like a goat.
You obviously missed the sentence where I pointed out my male partner experiences exactly the same thing. It’s not sexism if everyone is experiencing it. >>225811
That’s a fair point. I’d been trying to meet people like that IRL but maybe I just need to look online instead. Thanks anon. >>225818
Seriously baffled by some of the experiences other anons have. I’m a woman living in a western country and I was definitely not raised to “do whatever and find a man to marry”.
Well done for motivating yourself though anon, I know how hard it can be to care when no one else does!
This the unpopular opinion thread why are you triggered
>>225907>>225907>It’s not sexism if everyone is experiencing it.
Ah yes, personal anecdotes always supersede general trends and larger reports.
That's why when white people cry about experiencing racism, racism no longer exists for black people because everyone
must be experiencing racism equally now, right?
No, I didn't miss that part of your sentence. It's just retarded, but this is unpopular opinions which is why I just let you have it until you got arrogant about it. Thank you.
Sorry, I didn't realise I needed to also explain that in order for something to be sexist it needed to be discrimination based on biological sex. I did say that, while sexism and misogyny in the workplace clearly does still very much exist, that anon didn't point out anything that happened UNIQUELY because of sexism, even in STEM.
>I let you have it
Kek, thanks so much anon. I was just waiting for your permission to have an opinion that differs to yours. Sorry I offended your undeniable position backed up by "trends and reports".
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There are only 2 genders
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Yuri on Ice is boring as fuck and if it wasn't for the main characters being cute and gay nobody would've given a shit about it
To be real here, I gave it a chance. I made it 4 episodes in and it was cute , but really boring. I really don't understand the hype.
Don't get me wrong I really love sports animes and ice skating but I just couldn't get into it.
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>>227237>tfw I was so excited when I saw Yuri on Ice announced because I thought it was gonna be about ice skating lesbians
GIRL ME TOO
You can imagine my disappointment when I found out that was not the case.
Yeah, fujobait is exactly what that show is, which isn't entirely a bad thing (gotta sell that merch yo) but goddamn it attracted some crazy ass fans(especially fakebois).
I got chewed out on a thread once for saying YOI wasn't that great lmao I should've known better since most posters where fujos.
They kept pushing how it was such a beautiful story and totally not fujobait/fanserice, it was a wild ride
Not that anon, but I've been on 4chan for 8 years and refrain from using commonly used board pejoratives (with the exception of permutations of "—fag"). I don't have to get used to them but I don't expect other anons to bend to my wish.
Also, the thread is about "unpopular opinions".
Don't worry–I understand your point, though. Board lingo makes it way easier to convey an idea than less offensive, everyday language. Calling a thread "vidya autism" is different than "people way too obsessed with video games" or "weird people in video games".
Hope you feel better, too, anon.
I don't expect anyone to change their behavior or take my personal feelings into consideration. But I'm always curious if there are other people who dislike the language used on here (and other boards)
I get the sort of "don't like, don't read" stance you have and thats the reason I normally don't visit image boards. There are a few hate/gossip threads on here I read and that's about it. Been a long time since I frequented boards.
In my defense, it's a thread about our opinions. I'm sorry you're having a rough day/night anon!
>>225700>because of socialization
For example, in Sweden, the country that is the most progressive about gender norms and such things, where you can do whatever the hell you want, for every ~20 male engineers there's a female engineer, and for every ~20 female nurses there's a male nurse. This goes to show that there are innate preferences, and that if you give people the freedom to do whatever they want, they'll tend to go towards their innate preferences.
Males and females are biologically hard wired to have different affinities and skills. Sure, there is some variability and some overlap, and THE best engineer in the world may be a woman and THE best nurse a man, but statistically, males and females are two very distinct populations.
"Society is sexist, that's why I'm bad at maths" is such a lazy copout.
Apparently this professional agrees with Sweden anon.>>227340
I'm not the anon who appears to be suggesting that a study would only be valid in a country free of gender constructs. Comparatively better (ie from Saudi to America to Sweden) is good enough for me.
>>227348>The Daily Signal/Heritage Foundation
I don't know anything about that pediatrician, but I'm wary of her politics affecting her outlook, considering that The Daily Signal is very conservative.
Here's a rebuttal to her points:https://www.adolescenthealth.org/SAHM-News/SAHM-Responds-to-Dr-Michelle-Cretella.aspx
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>>227304>Is this the number of people surveyed by gender?
No, it's not a survey, it's a statistic done by the government, based on employment data.>Why would they do this when this would skew the ratio and make some of these occupations lean more women-oriented just upon principle of chance since more women were surveyed than men?
It doesn't though, it obviously accounts for the number of people considered. Those figures just mean "of people working the 30 most common jobs, 1 million are women and 0.7 million are men".
And by "it obviously accounts" I mean any reasonable person with a modicum of statistics knowledge would normalize it; however unlikely it may be, there is indeed the possibility that they didn't. But, if that were true, that'd mean there are EVEN LESS female engineers that there appear to be.>>227310>The rest of the country is just as backwaters gender-conforming and forceful of traditional gender roles as any other country.
Given how sparsely populated Sweden is outside of big cities and their agglomerations, "the rest of the country" is almost irrelevant on a statistical level. If you take just Stockholm, Göteborg and Malmö, you're already at 4 million people (out of 10 million total). Add to that any other reasonably big city, anad you're likely around 8-9 million.
And if by "the Stockholm hipsters" you mean to say LITERALLY just the Stockholm hipsters (and not the urban population in general), then I'm sorry but you're full of shit.>>227340>>227348
Ok then, let's go by the idea that gender norms haven't been completely eliminated, but that their importance was still significantly weakened (which is true, except for rural areas, which we have already determined to be irrelevant on a statistical level).
Even though people aren't getting pushed (or at least not pushed nearly as hard) to gravitate towards certain career paths, they still follow the trend seen in countries with stricter gender roles: male engineers, and female nurses. Additionally, what happens in Sweden shows roughly the same proportions as cointries with stricter gender norms.
Put her political leanings aside, and take a good look at the rebuttal. Here's what I'm seeing:
>1: she's wrong because DNA doesn't determine gender
Since a few years ago, gender has basically become "be whoever you want to be". Of course if you define it like that the doctor is wrong.
And anyway, there are biological males, biological females, and genetic screwups (intersex etc). Wanting to be a girl doesn't make you one. Feeling like a girl (whatever that means) doesn't make you one. Acting girly doesn't make you a girl. Pumping yourself full of female hormones doesn't make you a girl.>"and 20% is far above the gender dysphoria national average of 0.3%, which directly refutes her claim there is a “minimal biological predisposition”"
No, it doesn't refute anything, because a potential cause of gender dysphoria is socialization. Have there been studies on populations of twins that were separated at or shortly after birth, i.e. had independent socialization? Because I'm sure they'd show rates of gender dysphoria similar to the national average.>2: "Both of these arguments can be explained by the widespread oppression and rejection felt by those who are experiencing gender dysphoria until just recently"
Or, they can be explained by doctors and therapists (and let's not forget the parents!) pushing confused kids towards transition for brownie points (sometimes subconsciously), instead of listening to the kids and then doing what is best for them (which may well be transitioning, I'm not denying that).
Interestingly, the exact same thing was happening ~20 years ago with homosexuality. Most people who had therapy back then will absolutely tell you that therapists were desperate to make you discover your "true homosexual self", and that would fix all your issues. The difference being, if you think you're gay for some time you can then go back to being straight if you find out you're not actually gay; once you screw up your endocrine system, have surgery and so on, you can't really go back without looking, sounding, and most importantly feeling like a god damned abomination.>3: bone density loss isn't that bad because it reverts after puberty
The rebuttal conveniently omits that she explicitly mentions the risk of fractures during adolescence, which is also the period in which humans tend to be most physically active.
It also completely doesn't address any of the other issues the doctor mentions.>4: "More likely, those children were actually transgender and medical protocol helped them to live their lives"
This seems exceedingly unlikely. If your sample size is large enough to lead to a published and reviewed study, there is no way there wasn't a single kid that thought "hey, you know what, I actually don't feel like that anymore". Which leads me to think the kids were being pressured into it, see my response to point 2.>5: "all drugs have some negative side effects"
Nothing to say here, that's true.>6: "neuroscience has shown [adolescents] are fully capable of sound judgement"
No it bloody hasn't. Have you ever met a teenager?>"While risk taking is part of being an adolescent, adolescent brains are wired to ensure a range of exploratory behaviors as part of the developmental process"
Given what the consequences are if it turns out you're not really transgender (i.e. "you can't really go back without looking, sounding, and most importantly feeling like a god damned abomination"), that's a huge bloody risk to take, don't you think? While we're at it, why don't we encourage kids to drive racecars before they even get their drivers licence?>7: discrimination doesn't lead to increased suicide rates, but gender dysphoria is associated with anxiety, depression, and psychological distress, which do lead to an increase to suicide
The rebuttal conveniently ignores that "prior to the widespread promotion of transition affirmation, 75 to 95 percent of gender-dysphoric youth ended up happy with their biological sex after simply passing through puberty", and claims the doctor is "incorrectly assuming gender dysphoria is a treatable mental disorder". Is it not treatable? Then why does therapy often work?>8: Transgenders still commit suicide because of "needless and harmful attacks such as this one">some gratuitious self-promotion>muh hateful ideology, muh discrimination, hate and fear
I won't even bother responding to this one.
>>227368>that'd mean there are EVEN LESS female engineers that there appear to be
I think you're missing the point. You said that Sweden isn't so progressive about gender norms, but afaik males breaking gender norms to take on more 'nurture' and organizational occupations would indicate that there is in fact such progressive activity happening in Sweden.
School teachers. Cleaners. Sales persons. Servers. Planners. Bankers.
Those are commonly referred to as female-leaning jobs and they are in the middle or bottom of the list with a pretty close male-to-female ratio (since they were ranked by # of persons in the occupation it indicates). What if there were another 300,000 men adding into this figure? I know that's not everyone in Sweden and this graph is already years old.
There are social barriers that have prevented women from entering into mechanics, engineering, and programming as there were social barriers that prevented men from becoming nurses, pre-school teachers, and assistants.
This just doesn't prove there's anything "biological" about the way people choose occupations.
say no more fam
but I'll need a working visa to do the job
My parents are refugees (late 80s Yugoslavia) who disagree with the current influx of refugees from the Middle East due to cultural differences.
They never hung out exclusively with people of the same ethnic origin. We spoke our language in our home only seldom and only so we don't forget it.
They tried their hardest to blend in, changed their names, studied the language day and night, celebrated the local Catholic holidays despite being fedora socialists who didn't even care about their own.
Later on they sort of integrated into the local community of ex-Yugos when it got bigger, but aside from a few redneck gypsies nobody ever flaunted their nationality or religion, and everyone tried to blend in as well as they could. Lots of people were undereducated tradesmen and some old people still believe in witches and vampires but other than that we're not too different from the locals.
I fucking hate it when people say "but your parents were refugees too! xdddd" Nobody from our community ever sent in bomb threats, stabbed pedestrians, harassed women, panhandled in the metro, and most of all people never were or are politically correct in the least when talking about us and we get regularly shit on to this day because hurrdurr genocide. We never got any special treatment, so why should the Syrians? Muslims in general rarely seem to make any effort to blend in and just hang around their own kind, and you can't really force them either if they don't want to, so why take so many in in the first place?
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I wish people stop shoving the whole “You should have a womanly figure” on my face
I don’t want it.
It’s literally shameful and ghetto in the culture I grew up in.
I don’t like Kim kardashian or any steriotypically curvy celebrity
Why do I need to look a certain way ffs
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I think that open and poly relationships are bullshit. If there's no commitment and no exclusivity it's basically friends with benefits, but with a more "trendy" term to appear ~progressive~ or worse, seriously be deluded into thinking it's something more than fwbs
Yeeeah, a lot of the time it's just one partner who wants to sleep around with it being okay and the other goes with it to seem like a cool girl/boyfriend.
I also see a lot of the "my gf/wife is so CHILL, she points out hot women on the street to me so I can appreciate the view!" posts on reddit, followed by encouraging comments and upvotes. It sounds both sad and totally made up.
I get that your partner will find other people attractive, so do I but why is it so hard to keep that shit to yourself? Just don't get into relationships if it's so hard for you to keep it in your pants.
and it's bullshit when people say they can't be monagamous like polyamory is a sexuality or some crap. it's a choice, not an orientation.
It's a mindset thing. Similar to how fetishes work, imo. You either have the mentality to want a poly relationship and being okay with your partner(s) doing the same, or you don't.
I can't fathom being in such poly relationships for personal reasons. Maybe my personal reasons aren't as important or don't exist to someone who is poly and that's why they can have those kinds of relationships without regret. >>227916
Why should they express their disapproval in the first place? I don't think poly relationships are healthy and I cannot see myself being in one, but it's also none of my business either. I'd be pissed if a poly person came to me unsolicited and told me why they disapprove of mono relationships.
I agree with >>227912
, poly is still extremely unpopular.
>>227921>Why should they express their disapproval in the first place?
people don't just tell off randos on the street it's likely friends, and then they have every reason to express disapproval with a friend's relationship.
also the meme if 'what others do doesn't affect me' needs to stop, everything people do affects other people, that's how culture works.
>>227926>the meme if 'what others do doesn't affect me' needs to stop, everything people do affects other people
I can say with conviction that a poly relationship has never had an effect on my life in any tangible way whatsoever. I'm curious as to how one has affected you. >>227956>freedom of speech
Which does not mean freedom from consequence. A consequence of sharing your opinion on something is that someone may verbally retaliate at you for it–as is their right to speech as well.
Apparently I just have the sense to know that telling a "friend" or whoever that you don't like the function of their relationship tends to end badly. Then again, I'm not friends or close with the kinds of people getting themselves into poly relationships in the first place.
Lmao really? Are you American?
Freedom of speech means you can’t be prosecuted or incarcerated for openly criticising government or politicians. It’s got nothing to do with anything but that.
Uh, it's a wider concept than just "government or politicians". "Freedom of speech is a principle that supports the freedom of an individual or community to articulate one's opinions and ideas without fear of retaliation, censorship, or sanction".
I think it was meant to be a bit of a hyperbole anyway. It was just a weird thing to nitpick
Right, freedom FROM the gov't.
go to college.
>>227385>You said that Sweden isn't so progressive about gender norms
No, that wasn't me. I agree that it is progressive in that respect.
>What if there were another 300,000 men adding into this figure? I know that's not everyone in Sweden
See >>227368>it obviously accounts for the number of people considered. Those figures just mean "of people working the 30 most common jobs, 1 million are women and 0.7 million are men".>And by "it obviously accounts" I mean any reasonable person with a modicum of statistics knowledge would normalize it; however unlikely it may be, there is indeed the possibility that they didn't. But, if that were true, that'd mean there are EVEN LESS female engineers that there appear to be.
>and this graph is already years old.
Big trends like that don't change in three years.
>This just doesn't prove there's anything "biological" about the way people choose occupations.
Sure, it's not proof, but it's a pretty strong indicator.
If you tell both women and men "just b urself" and they end up consistently following stereotypes, maybe there's a reason for those stereotypes, i.e. innate preference/ability. What other explanation could you give, seeing as (as we've already established) the "nurture" component has been largely removed?
Seeing as this is the unpopular opinions thread:>Freedom of speech is a principle that supports the freedom of an individual or community to articulate one's opinions and ideas without fear of retaliation, censorship, or sanction
Funny how in many countries that supposedly have freedom of speech, you'll be sent to jail if you contest any """fact""" regarding the holocaust, huh?
Are you dumb or uninformed?
>imageboards were designed by japanese>so it means anime pictures are encouraged
I like anime myself but weeaboos are irritating. Guess that's not an unpopular opinion, oops.
using anime reaction images doesn't make you a weeb.
and you seem to be uninformed since this entire site was made to replace a 4chan board…
either way you should probably just kys.
>>228170>men "just b urself" and they end up consistently following stereotypes, maybe there's a reason
Because as soon as women take an interest in a male-dominated field the men shit their pants in fear of having to work harder to prove themselves, so they stonewall and subtly subjugate women who try to pursue those fields so that it can still be “their” thing.
Every time men say “I’d let women be equal if they WANTED to do equal work!!” I groan because I’ve personslly had to quit several auto shop jobs because of covert bullying I couldn’t prove without recording my coworkers, which wouldn’t have won me any favor points with anyone. Men need to stop acting like they’re waiting for women to step up and try when they know goddamn well they’re just waiting to tell us why we can’t do something as soon as we actually try.
Widely is intended as the right to express your opinion without fear of retaliation not only from the government, but from other people as well. It's also how most people mean it usually.
So take your own advice, autist
This may come across as bait, but have you considered you might just be a bad mechanic?
In my experience, people who get pissy about being told how to do their job aren't very good at their job, whether male or female.
I didn't jump to any conclusions, I just said you MIGHT be.
You talked about covert bullying, and I assumed that meant being told how to do things even though you should already know. That's a thing I've encountered, so I associated it with what you were were saying and thought it was the same kind of issue.
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The more I see of people complaining about how others spend (“waste”) their money the more I think they’re just poor or envious, or both.
Gotta agree with you here.
What else am I meant to think about a video of some asshole boiling a $1000AUD phone for fun, or things like the subreddit that’s just photos bread people stapled to trees to be “quirky”?
I’m not saying we should all live on communes and compost for a living but deliberate wastefulness just seems spoiled and silly.
You’d be pissed off too if you had to play life on hard mode while everyone else blows money around you carelessly. I remember crying as a kid because my teeth hur and my poorfag shitlord parents jut kept buying me nasty numbing gel for if instead of taking me to the dentist. Now as an adult I’m both salty as fuck about being let down by them and I’m bitter toward people who give no fucks about their teeth. The truth is, if more people cared about helping wah other than blowing money on the next hobby or endorphins rush people woul all
collectively be better off. The world sucks because it’s a small group of people generating money and using it to show off to each other while the rest of us struggle to build up a life that is both satisfying and sustainable, and not just one or the other.
I feel you anon. I hate wallet watchers, but at the same time >>228251
has a point.
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Don't know if related, but I hate people who bitch or think I'm a show off because I wear Gucci. My old classmates seem to get annoyed on Snapchat because I sometimes post an ootd, but they just think I'm rich. Ironically, I work at Tescos and come from a poor family, but no one can seem to imagine that I just save up my money, so I can buy a £2k bag after 2 months. I hate that people complain about me being 'so rich', when they just spend their money on drugs and nights out, and have families who are willing to give them money and buy them macbooks for Christmas since their teen years. I ended up sperging oof
You’re absolutely right to spend your money how you see fit, and it’s good that you can save like an adult unlike (it seems) half the population, but things like Gucci bags are taken as visible signs of wealth, that’s partly why they have distinct branding. So everyone knows it’s gucci or whatever. Those people aren’t necessarily right but most people interpret someone posting photos of a $2000+ OOTD as ‘they are rich’
That’s common sense
Eh idk, I don't see anything wrong with a meaty Brawn Hilda being a firefighter or a cop but I don't think the physical requirements for the job should be lowered and gender quotas set because in the end it hurts the people who need these services. I don't think a woman would be less capable necessarily but in my country I keep seeing these tiny ass she-dwarves with bowler hats walking around and they're supposed to be the communal police, breaking up riots and scaring junkies away from school zones. And they're always accompanied by several dudes whilst male communal policemen go in pairs. They just end up being glorified meter maids in the end.
Baffles me why they allow that when our army is ~50% female of which most are stonefaced, kebab removing hill giants.
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>>228357>I don't see anything wrong with a meaty Brawn Hilda being a firefighter or a cop
There's nothing inherently wrong with that.>but I don't think the physical requirements for the job should be lowered and gender quotas set because in the end it hurts the people who need these services.
Exactly, that's the real problem. As much as you might hate it, an average woman is much weaker than an average man, and a trained woman is much weaker than a trained man.
Now, there definitely are women that are comparably strong to men when trained, but they are an extreme minority. It wouldn't look good to say "sure, women can do these jobs too, but only 1% of the female general population fits the physical requirements", would it? So, you inevitably end up with lowered requirements. See pretty much any western army or police force or fire brigade, where women have significantly less strict physical requirements than men. Is this really a good idea?
The military is a bit different, since they, you know, shoot people. Guns aren't called equalizers without a reason. That being said, strength is still a very big factor in their daily lives.
You still run into problems such as those in pic related, and into male and female reactions and instincts being different.>>228359
The anon above understood perfectly what the problem is:>but I don't think the physical requirements for the job should be lowered and gender quotas set because in the end it hurts the people who need these services.
You might not trust men to do their jobs (or to always do them, or to do them right, etc), but when women are physically incapable of doing them, men are your best bet, not? Do you really want equal representation, knowing that maybe 1 of that female 50% is up to standards?
I'm 5'10 + very athletic and therefore stronger and faster than let's say an older 5'6 man with a beer belly.
Of course your physical traits play a very important role in jobs like e.g. police officers, but if we say that women under a certain height etc aren't allowed in, it also should be allowed to discriminate more against fat people. A young girl can still be a lot fitter than some fat slob
>>228421>but if we say that women under a certain height etc aren't allowed in, it also should be allowed to discriminate more against fat people
But again, it's not about the individual, it's about a population. You mention you're very athletic, but the average 5'10 girl isn't stronger (maybe faster, that seems reasonable) than a 50 year old man with a beer gut.
It wouldn't go down very well if they said "yes, women can be in the army, but they have to fit male standards", right?
And since this is the unpopular opinion thread:
Unless there's an actual medical condition behind it, fatties should be left alone to eat themselves to death. If they live in a country with socialized health care, they shouldn't have access to care for anything that is caused or aggravated by obesity.
I said it’s commonly seen as a sign of wealth. Can you not read?
You wear conspicuously expensive shit, people will think you’re rich. I’m not saying they’re right I’m saying people think what they think. Bit defensive about a tacky bag anon.
What is there to misunderstand about this;>>Wear thing that is designed to make people as aware as possible it is an expensive item a la Gucci.
>>cry because when sending people photos of these status symbol products, the plebs who I send the pictures to say I am rich
>>so misunderstood much superiority complex, hates money policing but fuck you for spending money on life not a bag that is made to demonstrate wealth I do not have reee
Fat people should be put in fat camp until they can be normal. Saying this as a former fatty, fuck those whiny bitches. There’s no genetic issue, no starvation mode (not when your body is more than half fat) no slow metabolisms just excuses, lies, and demands to be allowed to be firefighters and runway models and personal trainers.
I know it’s mental to sound that angry and I don’t really feel anywhere near as much about it as my hyperbole indicates but damn guys. The world is going to hell in an handbasket full of sugar.
Morbid obesity isn’t even seen as unusual or bizarre where I live now. A person who has eaten so much for so long that they are dying, unable to walk or breathe unassisted, but somehow a fairly typical site in woolies or coles.
My nieces have multiple obese kids in their classes and nobody gives a shit that, one of them is 12 and outweighs me. His tits are bigger than those of a 26 year old woman. And again, it’s normal to the teachers and parents and other kids. He doesn’t get called fat he gets called strong despite his biggest fear of strength being lifting the 2.5 litre bottle of coke to his gob again and again.
I don’t see how it can get any better and it’s horrific to think so many kids are gonna grow up thinking it’s normal and okay to be obese and sick when obesity is 100% your fault unless you’ve got Prader Willi or some other disease that fucks up cognition.
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I'm not sure abut the police. Sometimes the people are prone to be more open towards women than man, which means a woman could fasten the investigation or notice things that a men would never even think about.
About the military though, you're right about the equalizers, but military is a whole different subject. You're not only shooting bad guys, but you also have to carry that gun and ammo and more stuff. Full modern military equipment weights more than some plate armours and moving with that weight in harsh territory can be too much even for fit males. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAzI1UvlQqw
>>228452>Saying this as a former fatty
Why are former fatties always such volatile cunts towards the people they used to be?
Yeah, obese kids and morbidly obese adults shouldn't happen but the fact of the matter is that it is happening. Being angry, so far, has not stopped obesity.
I'm sick of people shouting "FIRE" yet nobody having the bucket of water to put out the flames.>my exception is diseases
What does it matter, you can't tell one fatty obese due to twinkaroos from the fatty obese due to a disease. The fuck cares.
The point is that 99% of obese people are simply vastly over eating. Former fatties get a bit vitriolic because we know how awful fatness feels, and know that it’s completely fixable. There’s no such thing as obesity because of a bad thyroid or a “slow metabolism” it’s just gluttony.
When little tyke kids are being effected by it and living a miserable, sickly life it’s a problem. When hospitals are further underfunded due to needing to buy bariatric equipment and nurses, paramedics, and firefighters are being injured by having to work with obese people, it’s a problem. When it’s normal to a society to see people so fat they literally cannot use their otherwise working limbs it’s a problem.
There’s a growing online culture telling people that it’s impossible to get healthy and that it’s great finding your only happiness in overeating. That’s fucked up, just as much as pro anorexics are fucked up, but these people are somehow allowed and even encouraged to continue pushing their agenda.
Models normalising obesity and attempting to turn it into a positive personal attribute rather than a sign of bad health and lack of self care. Twenty or more pounds overweight is seen as a normal healthy body for a woman by increasingly large numbers of people and healthiness is being treated by these groups like an oppressive, self harming, shameful habit.
Type 2 Diabetes rates are rising that those of cancer or heart disease in my country. That’s hundreds of people a day, including kids, getting a preventable illness that can cause blindness, limb loss, and death, then going online and being told it’s okay and they don’t need to change a thing.
I said in the first post that I was being pretty damn hyperbolic, partly because venting and partly because that’s just how a lot of us speak where I’m from. I don’t hate fat people, I hate the ignorance and pandering that’s harming people and encouraging fatness. The fat people deserve better.
>>228498>obese people are simply vastly over eating
Which does have roots in environment, mental illness, and culture.
They are also under exercising. >former fatties get a bit vitriolic because they know fatness is awful and fixable
So they project their feelings of self-hatred onto others without knowing the other half of peoples' stories.
I know some fatty that just ate a bit too much fast food and felt angry at herself is way different than someone who suffers from an eating disorder, disability, depression, or a disease.
>kids being obese are a problem
Nobody here is saying it isn't. >hospitals are underfunded because they buy bariatric equipment
This is a lie and makes you sound like you're talking out your ass. There are many reasons why hospitals don't get proper funding and it has little to do with the need to buy bariatric equipment. >nurses, paramedics, firefighters are injured doing their jobs
Patients with dementia, drug users, criminals, also cause such injuries. >society considers it normal that people are so fat they can't move
But they don't? Society calls these people disabled. US says obesity is a disease.
It's not normal and you're strawmanning to make this argument work.
If I look into niche corners of the internet I can claim there's a "culture" of many things. This doesn't mean anything.>anorexics aren't allowed to talk as freely on the internet as obeses are allowed to talk about overeating
That's because, by and large (lel), anorexia is more morbid in the short term than people who are overweight/fat overeating. Starving will kill your body quicker than bloating will.
Binge eating shouldn't be encouraged but again, I don't see it being so outside these niche corners of the internet that you seem to think are becoming the foundation of society and culture as a whole when it's not the case.
Obese people are not normal in real life.
>models normalizing obesity
Well there's also models who represent drug use, anorexia, steroid use…I don't see how this 'normalizes' anything. Nobody is rushing to get fat because it's fashionable or hip.
>Type 2 Diabetes rates are rising that those of cancer or heart disease
Type 2 diabetes is also on the rise in places like China, but nobody cares about their diets and environments because people assume they're of great health because they're smaller. Huge culture of smoking too. Do you care? Probably not.
Anyway, I hope you had a good whinge about the fatty fats but please reconsider some of this terribad logic.
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So my facmax surgeon wasn’t fundraising 50 grand for a few bariatric wheelchairs despite not being able to update their mri, or purchase new chairs for the oncology patients who have to sit there for five hours or more? Thanks for the info, but how did you get to every hospital in Australia?
Tess Holliday was in vogue, how niche. International publicity is so minuscule.
So fuck nurses they should just suck it up and accept that they’re gonna need surgery because their back is fucked after having to roll big-boy-Billy over so his 270kg ass doesn’t get bedsores because junkies and schizophrenics also sometimes get dangerous? Really anon? You’re gonna actually say this?
Schizophrenics can’t help being schizophrenic. Junkies are shit people but most wanna cry over a script and beg for dilaudid not attack you. Every single bedbound fat person, every fat person having surgery or needing help out of a wheelchair is either taking up 4x the manpower necessary or injuring the care providers every time. Those 6 people are now engaged with lifting plus-size patty twelve inches up and it’s taking 45 minutes because this isn’t a task we are designed to do.
Nobody is out there promoting smoking and nobody has thought junkies were anybody in decades. The biggest social media platforms used in the western world have users with hundreds of thousands of followers and reposts/likes near the millions. You really think that’s some tiny niche promoting obesity? Everyone and their dog has heard something about the “body positivity” movement.
China is a filthy hellhole and most people know it. I can’t recall seeing anybody at all say that Chinese people are healthy or healthier than the rest of the world.
All of your rebuttals come off more like hurt feelings. Sorry preventable deaths and taxes going to bariatric patients and not schools hurts your feelings so much tho.
well, if we're done with hamplanet-chan vs the world novella battle … >>228420
thank you!! I was saying to someone the other day, it has been weird to watch the whole tattoo thing go from being for certain types of 'undesirables' to becoming mainstream and then continuing on into a ubiquitous thing.
Also, most body piercings are ugly as fuck, and septum piercings are just plain repulsive.
unrelated: On a literary note, Lord of the Rings was the most boring and vanilla shit I've ever read, and the two movies based on it that my friends tried to get me to watch both put me to sleep.
>>228504>every hospital in Australia
I'm not Australian. This is not how the rest of the healthcare systems in the world work.>Tess Holiday was in Vogue so obesity is fashionable and socially acceptable
It's not. Plus people hate Tess Holiday and she's hardly relevant anymore. Being published=/=widespread acceptance.>nurses need to accept that their job comes with certain risks
Yes. Ask a nurse how many crazy people she deals with, how many times people hit, spit, fling shit, piss, etc.
I will say it because it's a reality, it's not one anyone favors. Nobody wants to be hurt on the job but it's a fact.>nobody is out there promoting smoking
But smoking is everywhere in the media?
I thought you said that media exposure=normalization. Plus plenty of countries do nothing to restrict smoking and some social cultures actively encourage it.>pictures promote obesity
So do you not want obese people to be photographed and their pictures posted to social media?
Also on social media are pictures of people drinking alcohol, smoking, having sex, and I'm sure a bunch of other things that go against health that you don't morally agree with. Who really know what your point is.
People can't just stop existing just because you don't agree with it.
>your rebuttals are hurt feelings
My rebuttals are sound and you have bad logic. >>228599
Except I didn't say that. At all.
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I think Black Twitter is going a little too overboard. I have never believed in reverse racism but I do believe in people being ass*oles. First with people claiming black people should have priorities when buying Fenty beauty releases and getting to black owned brands events (Excuse me WHAT? So now we need an ID that shows our skin color to get new releases?), second, all the hate makeup brands are getting just for the names of their lipsticks? Like, a lipstick is called 'problematic
' and a mua I follow said 'yeah because white people are problematic
and we don't need them close, this is a red flag if you see someone with this, stay away'(this guys generally says stuff like that, always putting down people that is not black or latino. He really hates asians and white people). Or people saying the whites should not go to watch Black Panther because is a movie made by black people and for black people and they would never understand it (excuse me lady B.P is a comic about a super hero and I'm happy it ended up in the cinema because I believe in representation and is very good for black kids, but this is not a march for political reasons…) Example here: https://twitter.com/gimmereasxns/status/964875047356727296
So now white people can't go to the cinema to watch this, nice LOL (says: you can see the difference between the public, this movie is for black people. / by and for us, we deserve it sorry mayos you tried it) Well the only difference I saw was people wearing a dashiki for the first time in their lives, headwraps + other kind of african clothes and googling in the restroom how to put it on because they don't really care outside of that event and screaming everytime a black character did something… If that's the different sorry but no. I'm glad Emma Bahi (Bahi Cosmetics owner, black owned brand) talked about this and said they look lowkey stupid doing all of that. It's nice to support someone who is not dumb)
There’s this so called African centered biological nationalist movement which is somewhat like black nazis, seems it’s based in America. Basically saying black people are superior and the rest of the world that isn’t “full black” are subhumans, they call white people IMAs (Inbred Mutant Albinos) and see mulato women as abhorrent mutts yet objectify the shit out of them.
This movement also reject the LGBT movement, claiming it’s a white people invention targeted to make black people disappear.
Yepp, this movement is bonkers.
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Oh, so, those blacks are being racist. But OP anon doesn't believe in "reverse racism!"
This. They claim that if you're not from a minority you can't suffer from racism. I know non asian people in Korea that are suffering from racism every day.
There's a mall in Sweden where it's basically 80% middle eastern and they didn't let a swedish woman into a store because she was white. You can be racist no matter your skintone. >>229420
Not so long time ago I saw on Insta stories a black woman taking pics of a normal white guy with a punk aesthetic saying 'oh no I have a nazi in front of me' It was a normal dude reading a book. He didn't even give her a look or anything, he was minding his own business.
I agree colonization was a mass murdering but the people from today don't have any fault. There are lots of racist people but if they also target those who are living their life without doing any bad stuff to anyone, do they think they are better? jokes on them, they're basically doing what a nazi does.
100% agree. I made a thread request for one about them, would be difficult to compile but the resounding feature of all these #bodiposi crones is they're miserable; They post about feeling like shit about their body, sad, low confidence whatever. Then follow it up with a useless photo of them smiling in a bikini where they tell you to love your body.
It's just the worst quality content and isn't making anyone feel better, not even the person posting it
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I actually like having fat/chubby characters in animes/mangas. I always hated when characters look way too similar to each other,meaning same body type and so on. So I never really get it when people complain about them, I've seen this happen a few times,this usually when said fat/chubby character is one of the main characters. Why do some people want all of them to have the same bodies? I guess it's a personal preference thing, don't get me wrong I don't hate skinny or muscular characters, it's just something I don't really understand why it is this way. The one way I could understand the frustration is if the character is all about their weight and nothing else,but if it's just the character's body type I don't really see how it ruins a story you were already into.
God yes this shit I’m so over it
Some housewives fat arse covered in glitter isn’t cute or inspirational in the slightest. It’s just a fat arse covered in cheap craft supplies
They’re saying ‘I’m not bothered I’m happy and proud’ more than Taylor fuckin swift does so they’re absolutely miserable.
People like glitterandlazers on IG, so fat she literally has no neck or elbows, looks like she couldn’t handle a single flight of stairs without puffing, but still tells girls that this is the way to be happy.
It’s disturbing how many people actually believe that calories are a magic abstract concept and what goes in your mouth doesn’t effect weight. That and the 400+ pounders who claim they eat less than an anorexic woman does everyday.
Thank you for the namefag, I had a good cry-laugh at a video of her “dancing” to Jessie J wearing workout gear, even though she’s so fat she can only wave her arms around.
People who are genuinely unbothered wouldn't even think about it. People take selfies because they care about how they look, whether it’s a passing thought or an obsession. Why are so many women obsessed with their outside, and when did that start passing for empowerment?
>>229839>>229893>glitterandlazers on IG>how can people like that be happy?>how can people like her feel empowered?
This is just my outsider perspective. I'm not an obesechan, so I don't ever venture onto these fat inspo instas or whatever these are.
But think about it: For women her size, and TRULY her size (300-500 pound ranges), having a social media account where an obese woman is lauded and gets to play dress up like a model, that can seem happy and empowering. Most people her size usually don't live quality lives themselves. They're typically on disability, work low-paying/sedentary jobs, and don't have the kind of money to be buying the fancy clothes the social media obesechans can afford to wear.
To the 400 pound nobody, this woman IS a somebody to aspire to. A 400 pound person isn't likely to lose weight themselves without serious intervention, so to them this woman and others like her are as good as it gets.
Don't shoot the messenger, I know it's unhealthy but it's true. It's how these people think.
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I don’t believe any of those women are happy. Glitterandlazers, Tess Holliday, that whole gang have always come off as incredibly self hating and the aggressive campaign of self love really only enforced it. Nobody who doesn’t care what people think posts something everyday just to let them know how much they don’t care and how empowering it is to have your breasts on backwards (pic related)
It’s sad because they’re reasonably young but getting to a point where the damage is permanent, even if they came to their senses and lost the excess hundreds of pounds. Following these accounts is basically watching the process of self delusion and self destruction. The denial is disturbing.
Totally agree that it’s exactly like the thinspo retards. They both sit there in rotting bodies insisting this is great and everyone else should join them.
Hell there’s even an overlap of extreme body size and extreme interest in Disney/cutesy kiddy things.
>>229958>they're just pretending to be happy
Well it could also be self perpetuating. I know all those custom clothes and vacations aren't rolling in because they have full time jobs at some dingy place.
They're reeling in the money from all the sponsors, ad revenue, and fans. That wouldn't happen if they were the typical sad, morbidly obese persons not making it out like their life is fun.
And imo, if they're going to shorten their lives by being morbidly overweight, they might as well spend it doing things on other people's dollar. Better than being landlocked on some couch with McDonald's crumbs living in poverty like most end up doing.
It’s pretty depressing that there’s fuck all jobs for healthy functional people, but once your ass is too big for a regular chair you’re getting free shit to pretend life is great with a personalised seatbelt extender, custom cpap machine, and designer muumuus.
Frankly they should be languishing on the couch out of sight if they’re gonna choose to be a barely mobile pig
Eh, I dislike women too, but it tends to be because of socialisation, so more often I dislike men.
Women tend to be repugnant when they are attempting to impress/align with repugnant men… men are the repugnant men. They are the "center" that women gravitate towards, not the other way round. Whereas when there are admirable women, they are the "center" and admirable men gravitate towards them.
However this doesn't erase the "repugnant/admirable" thing for either sex. Just an explanation of why I kind of agree with you and kind of don't, haha. /blogpost
So you're saying women are only bad when they are influenced by bad men, and men are only good when they are influenced by good women?
Sorry but it sounds like you're pretty biased towards favoring women.
I think it's a lack of male guidance that causes a lot of women to become broken, bitter, and cruel people. I do agree that women become worse when they are around bad men. I see women as the passive sex, who generally blend into whatever environment they're in, and adopt the opinions of the strongest presence (which is usually a man).
tl;dr I think women are heavily influenced by men, be they good or bad, but women left to their own devices without any male influence usually become neurotic and depressed.
Probably not a popular opinion here but I think it does an adequate job explaining the history of men and women together.
my main issue is that we have man
hating threads. not neckbeard or asshole hating threads. and women act like it's nbd and that we should know it's not "all men" but they kick up a fuss and run to defend when anyone (even other women) use "women" as a blanket term. it's so hypocritical. i hate specific groups of men and women. but saying 'all x' just pisses people off cause it's being vague on purpose. and they wonder why people get upset.
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Yeah, a woman hating other women. How original.
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Shouldn't you be taking your hormone, Poppy Z. Dear?
I'm not a man, I was just raised really traditionally, and by a single father. I hate /r9k/ and the incels who go there. /r9k/ also lacks good male authority figures. They become embittered women won't fall into their arms, and shirk the responsibility men have to lead.
Bitter male incels who blame their problems on women are 100x worse than the women they hate.
Well, yes. I think there are exceptions but in general women seem to be happier when they're under the guidance of men.
I'm not saying this wholly from personal experience either. I think women have been happy to let men guide their lives for the majority of history, and even now today in most non-western cultures.
I'm not saying this because I hate women or want to sabotage them, or get some sort of revenge. I just want what is best for them.
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>>231981>im a woman and i hate women>unpopular opinion
on what planet?
you're delusional if you see the way EVERYDAY men ritualize, normalize, and sexualize female abuse. a lot of average men eroticize the abuse of females, or just accept and rarely question the wholesale dehumanization of women in society. they may not admit it, but men are socialized into being shitballs. maybe you don't see it because men give you positive attention and you're mildly irritated by young women being annoying, but overall, women are mostly harmless, if not a little irritating/deprived of positive attention and lash out in obnoxious, but generally largely inoffensive ways compared to the way men act out.
young women being emotionally unstable, attention seeking sugarbabies doesn't hold a candle to the way men treat each other, females, and animals. and yes, that sounds hypocritical, but i've really yet to even see "i hate manzzz but i wanna be raped!!" posts, and if they are, they're probably just edgy 20 yo dipshits that are internalizing libfem dumblr rhetoric that still like feeling special for claiming to want to be raped or whatever stupid shit men push on them/suggest they should be ok with, in order to be seen as more attractive to them.
you dickmatized women are really irritating. mens a shit and women are generally, at worst, mildly irksome.
I thought so too. Part of me wonders if that anon is an awesome trans grrrl, but #notlikeothergirls tards are common on /snow/ and /pt/ so it's probably one of them.
Wish I could find that study that shows women are happier after their husbands die :/
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I agree with you both
I once posted on here how much I spent on a certain item of clothing, and got shat on by an anon lmao. Yeah it was expensive but it was well worth it. I got a shitty fast food job just so I could buy it and another specific piece of clothing, I'm very happy I did and I get compliments every time I wear them out! It's especially nice since it attracts people who wear similar fashion to me which makes it easier to talk to them and make friends. Don't let people make you feel bad for saving and spending your own hard earned money on something you wanted
The "gay people are monogamous family oriented people" thing was invented a couple of years ago to push for marriage equality.
In truth most people who are gay are in it for the sex
not for marriage and family (since obviously the family aspect is a whole lot more difficult if you're gay, if that was a priority the person wouldn't be gay/would be in a het marriage regardless)
Inb4 people say it isn't a choice - it is a choice baguettes are thrown at Anon
Obviously people can fall in love of any gender (being in love is also a choice, as it's something you have to feed/work on/want) but for example whenever I see gay guys in my city they're always in a gang of several of them being equally lovey-dovey with every member. Especially older gay guys as that's the culture they grew up in.
I agree, anon. Some women really do unironically perpetuate misogynistic/patriarchal bullshit in their commentary on other women, and then five seconds later are whining in a man hating thread about how it's affected them. It's rather gross and sad, especially when most people who do this are just projecting their own unhappiness about their looks onto others.
I guess men do this to each other as well but I'm not a dude and I don't really interact with them, so someone else will have to tell me if men are also unnecessarily cruel and insecure with each other.
Hmm, I'm a lesbian and I really don't think it's a choice.
I used to think the same way as you do though… I thought females being straight was literally a meme up until like last year. It was hard to comprehend that anyone could date or be attracted to men unironically unless they were a whore, they hated themself or had some mental illness, or they were a misogynistic man with parental issues and only did it to spite women (i.e. milo yianopuloplopu…populous).
Jailhouse gay does exist, so it probably is a choice for some people (especially men considering their whorish nature makes their sexualities very easy to change), but most people don't just choose their sexualities.
I think that gay people are promiscuous because modern society only allowed people to be openly gay in recent years, so prior to that gay people had to have straight romantic relationships whilst relieving their true sexual desires in secret. Ergo gay culture has evolved around sexual liaisons rather than committed romantic ones, or a mixture like heterosexual culture has. Plus there’s also a lot less gay people than straight, and a lot of people experiment with being straight first - so it might seem like gay people are always sleeping around, but if there’s only a handful of gay people where you live and you didn’t realise your gayness until you were 18, you might have a teenage slut phase later in life and end up sleeping with every gay you know, making it seem like a promiscuous pandemic as a result.
That being said, I also know a lot of straight people who sleep around loads and relationship-hop. Maybe that has just been normalised to you so you don’t notice it as much?
Not quite. There's a reason there's no lesbian version of grindr or that weird poz nazi pnp satanic bdsm tweaker community, anon. >>233663
was right, men are sluts and gay men slut it up even harder because they don't have women to stop them.
>>233686>It was hard to comprehend that anyone could date or be attracted to men unironically unless they were a whore, they hated themself or had some mental illness
That awkward moment when you think you're misandrist but you're really just misogynistic. Guess 97% of the female population on this entire planet are whores with mental illnesses.
Here's my unpopular opinion that a few people mentioned here before: lesbians are insufferable and have really nasty attitudes. Your post itself sounds like you have mental illness and some issues in yourself you need to work out.
Already said that I don't think like that anymore, but yeah, most straight women and nearly all bi women are
insufferable, honestly. Especially when you get triggered
over dumb shit like this.
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I'm not triggered
. I was pointing out your hypocrisy and you completely dodged the entire point of my post with your shitposting reply. Calling out your misogyny under the guise of being misandrist isn't "dumb shit". I called you out on your bullshit and you can't handle it.
>n-no you're insufferable!>you're jus triggered! xD>dumb shit>i don't think that anymore, but here i am saying i still think that way
Tell me more about who's the one that's triggered
. Try practicing what you preach, anon. How is it being hateful all the time? I wish you luck to find happiness and become a better person.
Sometimes muh-soggy-knees is valid uwu. I'm having a great time being hateful and hating everyone 4eva ♡
☆☆ if you are male or you like males unironically, never look in my direction ☆☆>>233708
tell that to my grill-friend
There is a lesbian version of Grindr, it’s just not as well-known. Maybe because people like to demonise men for wanting casual sex? Who knows. I don’t know about that community you mentioned, but I don’t think you can judge a whole section of society by some select weird-ass group. Loads of straight women like DDLG, does that make all of them closet paedos?
The thing is anon, is that women don’t stop men slutting it up, because plenty of women slut it up too. It’s almost like it’s not a gender-based thing. Like I’m in agreement that committed partnerships APPEAR to be less common in the gay community, but I don’t agree with the reasoning I’ve seen here.
>>233717>There is a lesbian version of Grindr, it’s just not as well-known.
What's it called, then? It's less well known because lesbians generally aren't as interested in casual sex.
>Maybe because people like to demonise men for wanting casual sex?
They should be demonized for that; it's disgusting.
>Loads of straight women like DDLG, does that make all of them closet paedos?
Not all of them, but the ones into ddlg sure as fuck are. Nice strawman btw.
>The thing is anon, is that women don’t stop men slutting it up, because plenty of women slut it up too
It's a fact that men are more horny than women, so you can fuck off with that. And if women aren't stopping them, why do incels exist? Why do men commit 98% of sex crimes? Why are virtually all Johns male?
You sound like a straight girl who knows fuck all about the lgb community tbqh.
And I'm not saying this because I'm broken-hearted or shit. The whole concept confuses and angers me. The moment people fall in love, they change wholly. They sacrifice too much, drop their hobbies, their fucking personality evaporates. It's like love siphons some of you, and you're left with boring and meek. Yeah yeah, people compromise, change for the better, good for them I guess, but it's sad for me to observe the decay of someone's persona. I have no right to stop it, of course, as long as it's their choice and they're happy all I can do is vent on an anonymous board.
It's a selfish thought, but I would rather have them sad and lonely, but interesting, able to talk about life, purpose, or simply music and film, instead of just their significant other, either how amazing they are or about relationship problems.
I may speak with an exalted manner, but I don't exaggerate much. This literally happened so many times with my friends. Not everyone, of course, but enough for me to hate romantic love
It’s called “Scissr”.
Casual sex being disgusting is your opinion, which you’re entitled to, but means fuck all in anyone’s life except your own.
Strawman or not, it’s a direct comparison to what you said. You could say any small area of any culture is representative of the whole, but that doesn’t make it true. It’s just a seedy nasty part of gay male culture. It happens in straight culture too, hence my example.
>Men are generally more horny than women =/= no slutty horny women exist
Incels exist because of their own Madonna-whore complex, which is obvious to anyone who reads their shit… that comparison just makes you sound like a robot. Sex crimes don’t happen because men are simply horny either, that’s ridiculous. I would argue more men visit prostitutes because they’re more often too retarded to get a woman into bed without paying her for the privilege, but I’m sure others would disagree.
And you sound like a lesbian misandrist with no real knowledge of how guys work because you’ve never intimately experienced any of the shit you’re talking about. I’m a bisexual woman in a straight relationship, with a gay brother-in-law and a gay (Male) best friend. Is that qualified enough for you or shall I take a diploma in LGB before I comment again?
>>233725>Casual sex being disgusting is your opinion, which you’re entitled to, but means fuck all in anyone’s life except your own.
>Incels exist because of their own Madonna-whore complex
Wrong. That may be true for a select few, but the majority of incels are incels because women actually have standards and won't fuck them. Female incels aren't a thing because too many men think with their dicks for it to be one.
>Sex crimes don’t happen because men are simply horny either
It's not the sole reason, but it's obviously a big fucking part of it! Are you kidding?
>I would argue more men visit prostitutes because they’re more often too retarded to get a woman into bed without paying her for the privilege
Right, because women don't think with their genetalia as often. You don't need to pay men to have sex with you, they're easy.
>Misrepresentation of your argument or not, it was a direct comparison to my misrepresentation of your argument.
Lol. That community is relevant to my point because the fact that those places exist and are as big as they are is very telling.
>And you sound like a lesbian misandrist with no real knowledge of how guys work because you’ve never intimately experienced any of the shit you’re talking about
Misandry is ALWAYS valid UwU. Most of my gay (male) friends are hoes and men are
more slutty because of their biology.
>"I'm a bihet faghag"
Ahhh, okay. That explains all this handmaiden-y tripe.
Sorry I’ve obviously stumbled upon an angry land whale virgin who hates men, kek
No I’m not fucking kidding. There’s plenty of men out there who would never commit a sex crime, even at their horniest. Therefore it’s not being driven by libido itself, otherwise all men with a sex drive would do it. Do you honestly find critical thinking that difficult?
Yes, I’ve already agreed with your point that men are more sexually driven. It doesn’t erase the existence of sexually driven women, as much as that would suit your POV.
So? There’s a huge number of straight women who have rape/control fantasies, so all women must want to be raped because that’s a thing? That’s relevant to my point in exactly the same way yours is relevant to yours. Stop trying to avoid the fact that application of your logic to any other social group shows how ridiculous it is.
>tfw your limited experience of gay men is apparently relevant to all gay men
Let me guess, you believe all Muslims are terrorists as well right?
Ah, so you’re into erasing bisexuality as well. Yes, obviously I got married just for the gay brother-in-law, what a hag!
Are you just mad because you’re the first ever female incel, who hates men but can’t find a vagina pure enough to finger? kek
/done with this stupid conversation. It’s too difficult discussing stuff with someone who thinks blanket hatred of 3.5bn people is a rational stance.(infighting)
>>233746>If you're not a libtard you're obviously a fatfuck who never leaves the house and sucks trump's dick all day
>Therefore it’s not being driven by libido itself, otherwise all men with a sex drive would do it.
I already said that, can you not read? Libido naturally plays a major part, but it's not the only thing.
>It doesn’t erase the existence of sexually driven women, as much as that would suit your POV.
I never denied that some women are whores, stupid. I said that there are significantly less female whores than male ones.
>Stop trying to avoid the fact that application of your logic to any other social group shows how ridiculous it is.
You're literally applying it wrong. I don't know why you're even comparing some people's fantasies with the bug chasing/pnp community, a real thing.
>tfw your limited experience of gay men is apparently relevant to all gay men
t. bihet who just did this shit in her last post.
>Let me guess, you believe all Muslims are terrorists as well right?
More projection. I do think all Muslims are inherently trashy though, on account of their disgusting religion. Their prophet was a child rapist.
Ruh-roh, looks like someone can't think of any decent insults and had turn to even more projection :/
>Ah, so you’re into erasing bisexuality as well
I'm done with this too, handmaidens are boring to argue with.(infighting)
Some people have a phobia of generalizing and think that what is equal/egalitarian is what is correct. There are biological differences in human groups that make us behave differently. There are outliers of course but that just proves the rule.
To say "women are just as slutty as men" is silly. If we're going to refer to sluts as people who want to fuck the most people as humanly possible… well men are biological sluts lol.
This is so true.>>233694
This is bullshit. You are making up some narrative in your head about homos who were repressed for decades and are just now starting to fuck. Most homos are in their teens/20s/30s. Coming of age as a millennial, there were very few forces preventing me from being a homosexual. And nothing would be repressive enough for me to go straight up bug chaser/poz pig once I get "permission".
Gay dudes have sexual partner numbers in the hundreds and sometimes the thousands. Name one highschool "slut" you know that has slept with 1000 dudes, and tell me it's commonplace.
There are districts in sanfran that have pandemics of unknown drug-resistant STDs because all the gay men there can't stop acting like human toxic waste bins.
Your view on homosexuality is some romantic disney-fied version, literally an invented story. The truth is, the vast majority of homosexual men as sex-fiends, not just repressed people who would otherwise be ttly normal guiz
"Women traveled from group to group"
I don't think female giggalos in loincloths were snu-snuing random men and starting their own tribes with their offspring.
Women were won by conquest, the strongest men bred with them. Female DNA passed to separate tribes more than male DNA because… when an enemy tribe conquers you, the men are killed and the women are raped. The fact that the majority of human DNA was passed won by females isn't because women wanted to fuck more, it was because they were fucked more. It's sexual hypergamy. If given the opportunity, men will fuck whatever woman they can find. However, stronger men will push them down and selective females will stick to the stronger men. Most of the time, they probably didn't even have a choice.
You know absolutely nothing about human biology if you think women are more liberal with their sexual selection and will be less discriminate than men. If women were as big of "sluts" as men, the human race wouldn't be as advanced as it is now, because there's be even less sexual selective pressures that would lead to an evolution in our species. If women acted like men sexually, then human sexuality would resemble the poz holes of sanfran where new venereal diseases are created daily.
What is the evolutionary reason women would be "sluts" if every time they have sex they are encumbered for 9 months with pregnancy, and around 13 years with a dependent child? Men were designed to pump and dump, they can have thousands of offspring and not know a single one. A woman can only have a few children her entire life. There's a reason Genghis Khan was a man, and why so many people have some of his DNA. If a woman pumps and dumps indiscriminately, then she's probably going to be stuck with inferior offspring and no father in the picture.
You should both read Sara Pascoe's book, autobiography of a female. She's a comedian and the book has science and actually discusses this in it. Very good read.
Anyway, back in the day women did the child rearing and menopausal women helped raise children to. Men tend to fall asleep after love making, and women are vocal during orgasm to let other males who are lurking nearby to know she's 'in heat'. Women did sleep around, but it was advantageous for conception. Sperm competition is a thing, and orgasm improves conception because it triggers
muscle spasms that promote the sperm reaching the egg. Multiple orgasms are to increase conception. It's very simply put. Monogamy is also the norm because babies are resource intensive. The human skull is difficult to deliver, but it's to protect our big fat brains so the pay off is that we are pretty useless in infancy unlike other mammals young that can pretty much function like a mini version. The male going off to secure the resouces while the mother raised the child was optimal for the survival of the child. Humans are also one of the few or only mammals to have a menopause, it is suggested so older females could also help raise the young.
This sounds really interesting and completely plausible. The only question id have is why are female orgasms so hard to achieve then? Because I completely believe their purpose is to aid conception, but that would follow on to theoretical conclusion of “the guy who turns me on the most wins”. Weird criteria for a father lmao. >>234239
Tbh humans were better off as a whole before we became “civilised”, we were just a lot less comfortable. The one thing that puts us above other animals is what will kill us all in the end.
natural selection will take its course.>>234289
yep yep. agriculture was the downfall of man. we should have all stayed hunter-gatherers. there's no need for society, civilization, or modern technology beyond tools for foraging and defense. we dun goofed
I'm getting really tired of girls online with severe cases of GOTIS. I'm actually not talking about titty streamers, cosgirls like Momo and Jnigri (don't know if she's still relevant, don't follow them but she was the first one to get really big) or similar people who are clearly only doing it as a schtick to pull in views/money and don't exactly hide it, and I'm not talking about 14 year old kiddies.
I mean people who pick cutesy usernames like Ashl3yk1nz or PinkUnicornBunny420, talk in a very forced soft and high pitched voice during streams or in voice chat, use cutesy graphics and emoticons, constantly post selfies on discord to fish for compliments, giggle all the time and obviously do everything in their power to get attention from thirsty males by screaming 'notice me, I'm a girl on the internet!' It just feels very fake and like they're overcompensating for something else, most of the time they don't even play that many games or participate more than superficially. On top of that a good number of them try to be silly and randum XD which becomes extremely annoying and old really fast.
I've seen plenty of female members of gaming/streamer communities post normal photos, have normal usernames and normal conversations in their normal tone of voice, some of them are more girly and some less but all of them act like adults and not thirsty womanchildren. Don't see why it's so hard to grasp.
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people who dye their hair blonde but have dark af eyebrows. it doesn't look natural. id rather people dye their hair and bleach their brows.
>b-but anon den u wont see their brows and they'll look like an alien
idc it looks better than dark af brows and hair that doesn't match.
I'm tired of Tracer and D.Va and their waifufags.
Moira doesn't get enough love imo.
Same.. I'm beyond tired of superhero movies. Tbh I was saying the same thing like a decade ago, thinking the bubble would burst soon and profitability would finally tank. But no, they keep raking in the dough so they keep pumping more and more out. I see no end in sight.
It's cool for people who like them I guess but it's all just so tiresome to me.
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I think that the plastic surgery bashing trend going on right now is dumb as fuck and can do more bad than good. "Muh PS is bad example for young girls" when those people basically promote the idea that if you're not born beautiful you will never be, which I think it's worse for a young girl to think.
They will also turn around and bash whoever has a bigger nose/thinner lips/whatever is the opposite of beauty standards, but the moment someone has that issue and fixes it, hell arises.
People who go around saying that "Bella Hadid is ugly and fake" for having had a nosejob are the same ones who turn around and asskiss to oblivion 90s supermodels and actresses who have had surgery too - but they think they didn't, as if plastic surgery was invented in the 2000s. Truly delusional.
And at last, seeing people reeeee so vocally under pictures of "young model/actress that has had some work done X" looks more like sour graping than anything else.
>>236623>the idea that if you're not born beautiful you will never be, which I think it's worse for a young girl to think.
The fuck, how is it? A better idea would be "you're not born beautiful and you never will be, but you have more to offer than your looks, you don't owe anyone beauty and you can exceed in other areas of life". I mean, it's pretty fucking telling that you're addressing young girls instead of young boys. Nobody expects men to go above and beyond, to the point of expensive, painful and possibly risky surgery, just to meet beauty standards.
I agree that it's fucked up people will bash a look and then bash women for getting PS to correct it, but we shouldn't think of not being beautiful as the absolute worst thing that could possibly happen to a woman (even if it might be in men/society's eyes).
If you read the beginning of the sentence you greentexted you will notice that I only addressed young girls to parrot people's idea that "seeing a model with a nosejob will hurt young girls".
You have a point when you say that there's more to offer than just looks, and it's true, but if a person wants to be pretty it's up to them to decide what to do.
I never see anyone bash someone who's been honest about their procedures though.
Almost all nitpicking I've seen on lolcow are towards women who try to bury the fact that they've had work done because they want to pretend they became naturally attractive without any outside help. Be it boob jobs, lipo, nose jobs, etc.
It serves the ego of the fibber while everyone else scratches their heads and blame themselves as to why they can't achieve that artificial self-perfection.
It reminds me of how it was a fad to stigmatize makeup for awhile because lying bitches would take selfies with photoshopped faces full o slap and claim they weren't wearing any makeup.
this is something i agree with! without even going into how i don't understand you mentally know your gender (i mean like it's just a bunch of gender roles, and then the physiology of actually being male/female i.e. oh i feel this function (e.g. a period or cumming out of a dick (idk what it's like to be a dude!)), how do they know they were suppose to have MASSIVE DD TITS?
I wouldn't mind a free breast augmentation to keep up with societal's standards of looking like a woman. If the girls with dicks can get them for free, I should too, I have a period. Top trumps. I win.
For real. The idea that we can't get dYSpHoRiA about our boobs without being transmen or that just being fucking uncomfortable as the sex that's constantly sexualized is such bullshit.
We're all uncomfortable with our bodies to some degree, so why can't we get plastic surgery on medicaid's dime? (i don't actually want to, just making a point)
i had such severe boob dysmorphia that i would shove plastic inserts into my bras until my breasts would bleed from the friction. i wouldnt take them out to bathe, wouldnt take off my bra for anything, i just hated how they looked. i wouldnt be intimate with anyone, couldn't stand them being exposed, even if it was sweltering hot or i was uncomfortable in my bra.
basically we can just go fuck ourselves for being "plastic, superficial cunts" if we're uncomfortable with being sexualized/don't like our bodies, but trannies get Vogue covers, awards, and free surgery for their fucking fetishes.
These posts give me life, girls. You put it more perfectly than I ever could. >basically we can just go fuck ourselves for being "plastic, superficial cunts" if we're uncomfortable with being sexualized/don't like our bodies, but trannies get Vogue covers, awards, and free surgery for their fucking fetishes.
I legitimately want to shout this out on the streets.
wtf you wrote all this stuff about not messing up a kid and then said mentally ill people should adopt a kid - and mess that kid up with their psycho mom/incompetent off-with-the fairies mom bullshit.
I mean there’s plenty of mentally ill people who have recovered and manage just fine as parents. >>237595
calm down sir Francis Galton.
Agreed, surgeries such as facial feminization, breast implants, genital reassignments and all the stuff MtFs get should NEVER be free. It's more important to guarantee free healthcare and mental care, ideally for everyone, and not throw government money at trans surgery. You feel bad about having a penis? I feel bad about having a big nose, and guess what, I'm working my ass off to pay to fix it. You want cosmetic surgery? Get a job, save money and get it. >>237595
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Imo eyebrows should always be the same color as your hair or a little darker, but just a little. Blonde hair with super dark eyebrows looks ridiculous. Also super dark thick eyebrows makes your face look older and harsher
Pic related (eww)
i think /ot/ and to some extent /g/ is volatile and full of people who need to get out more. threads, especially those that men are mentioned in (man hate, relationship etc.) are filled with grossly bitter anons who push fear mongering tactics and write inappropriate responses, without reading the subject matter, simply to shit on men. now i know i'll get some flack on this, but i came to the board to get away from fucking men and the whole 'battle of the sexes' shit. i do block threads, but when gross hate seeps into other areas (like the kpop thread) it just leads me to wonder if these anons are just parroting what they read online and hating men in place of society, or if they actually have personal experiences with really terrible humans(with anyone for that matter). i also just think general harboring hate, even through """venting""" like in the man-hate threads is really toxic. and don't get me wrong, i'm not saying there aren't shitbag men out there, but constantly bringing it up is just unhealthy.
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Not sure how unpopular this really is, but it's utterly baffling how hideous everyone in this movie is. This includes Daisy Ridley. She has a fivehead, a man jaw, and a missing neck.
Also, fuck John Boyega for ruining Pacific Rim with his huge fucking ego. Nobody would ever believe his bowlegged, soft, pear-shaped ass is the son of Idris Elba.
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Curious, if you think Daisy R is hideous, who do you think is average or hot?
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She must have BDD, Daisy is a very beautiful woman by every standards. Pic related is probably what an elegant feminine jaw and delicate brow bone is to Anon.
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Ridley-hating anon here, I was being hyperbolic in my post. She's obviously not butt fugly, but I really don't think she's some stunning beauty. I think she looks like a dollar-store knockoff Kiera Knightley.
Gal Gadot also has a fivehead and a strong jaw but is infinitely better looking.
I think the only people holding her up on some stunner pedestal are jacking off to her holding a lightsaber. I think she’s beautiful, but not the most beautiful woman by a long shot. I’m pretty sure she was cast cause she looks like Natalie Portman (Padme) and Kiera Knightly was her double. So you’re not wrong in that connection.
She’s mad fit, and I gotta respect her for that
I think Disney's styling of her as Rey is very unflattering and makes her look a lot uglier in the movies than she otherwise would.
I think Adam Driver's really ugly and can't fathom how he was cast as Han Solo and Leia's child when he looks nothing like either of them. But again, I think how Disney styles him isn't helping. He managed to look alright in some modelling ads but looked ridiculous in his shirtless scene in The Last Jedi.
>>240099>Adam Driver's really ugly
Agreed. It's amazing how much popular media makes weird-looking actors look attractive to so many people. Benedict Cumberbatch is another example I can think of. Or Ryan Gosling.>>240333
That anon probably thinks any square jaw on a woman is manly.
What is with the star wars casting lately? From Portman, to Ridley, to Felicity Jones, to Emilia Clarke.
They're all so similar. Where's the variety?
They want female audiences and market research says this type is one that women like. Not a sultry blonde that is off putting by being obviously there to appeal to men, and not so plain as to distract with the "well if they used her
they might as well have used me" type envy. Not sure about why they need to be British
Agreed on Cumberbatch. Dude looks like he had bad plastic surgery or is really a lizard person. Ryan Gosling and Adam Driver are good-looking though. I'll give you that Driver's rather 'unconventional' looking, but what's wrong with Gosling? He might not have the strongest or most chiseled features, but he's hardly ugly.>>240544>>240598
It definitely seems like they've decided the archetypical female Star Wars protagonist is a bland brunette with a British accent. (Personally I find Rey to be only marginally less shit than Anakin, but that's a story for another time.)
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Portman, Jones and Clarke are all well above average girls that can also appeal to men, I don't think their haircolor means something
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Adam Driver is really attractive in my eyes, especially when he has long hair and no beard. This is not me being brainwashed. I love tall men with long hair. He has great eyes too and nice lips. Seems like an intelligent and charming guy from the interviews and he's a great actor.
I understand he might not be everyone's cup of tea, but I adore him. I own 3 Kylo figures in his likeness kek (I adore Kylo too for reasons that have nothing to do with his hotness).
Sidenote - post TLJ seen some salty lesbians on tumblr screeching how ugly he is and it made me laugh, as they were arguing that women should not be judged by their looks. The hipocrisy is astounding>>240012
Agree 100%. I left radfem communities for the reason. I enjoyed the social criticism (for example makeup being shilled as a weapon while women are often forced to wear it by societal expectations), but constant reading about rapists and murderers made me even more paranoid and depressed than I was before I found the radfem community. All posts about criminals or random shit guys basically end up with "mem are disgusting, they all want to rape and murder us. You can never trust them. Kill all men". Not to mention the shaming of straight/bi women for wanting to have a healthy relationship with a men.
You can't live your whole life feeling like a rape victim in the making. My mother accidentaly made me feel like this too and it fucked me up. Took me so many years to unlearn that shit, stop being constantly on guard (made my post-ptsd hypervigilance so much worse) and just LIVE.
Wtf like blondes are all badass and brunettes are all boring? This is some dumb shit, anon.
There’s like five female leads over the entire series, two are mother-daughter so should look alike (Padme, Leia), one is ambiguously connected and looks alike to spawn fan theories (Rey), one is the romantic partner of a man who ends up with someone who looks similar (pretty common), which leaves Rey as the only one who could have looked different… but Rogue One really wanted to establish itself as a Star Wars movie so making the lead female wildly different from the others would’ve been off brand.
It makes a shit ton of sense for them to have cast all brunettes and you just sound bitter when you uphold blondes as so much better tbh. Complain about the lack of female characters, sure, but the lack of blondes? Nah.
Who is the romantic interest who looks similar to the True Lover? Han Solo's previous wife?
Sorry, I feel like an idiot for not being able to tell who do you mean.
There is also Jyn's mother (also a brunette).
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If you want blondes in Star Wars you pretty much have to look to the shows. Or else it's like they don't exist.
Can we not shit stir?>>240879
is right but these comments just make you sound bitter and butthurt. And before you start, my hair is black.
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My guess is you DO look like a mole rat.
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tfw blondes get in a hissy cause some people prefer brunettes
Exactly. These triggered
brown haired white girls are retarded as hell.>>240954
I'm black. I'm guessing you and the others getting upset over my post are boring brunette neanderthal looking white hoes. Try so hard and have nasty attitudes then wonder why the rest of the world doesn't care for you. Keep being racist towards black women and reverse racist towards your own kind though.(USER HAS BEEN PUT OUT TO PASTURE)
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A lot of unpopular opinions there. Congrats. Brb going to be "reverse racist" to some blondes.
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Can everyone stop arguing about brunettes and blondes. Nobody fucking cares and you sound like idiots.>>240962>I'm guessing you and the others getting upset over my post are boring brunette neanderthal looking white hoes.
and I mostly just wrote that because I really don't like Emilia Clarke and it seems they went for her just to continue the trend.
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I just got done watching An Open Secret which is about a particular ring of pedophilia that happened to a few 90s male child actors in Hollywood.
And holy shit, I hate their parents so god damn much.
I know everyone always blames the pedophile (for obvious reasons), but these parents came off to me as inappropriately permissive and negligent.
What kind of parent lets their preteen go out at night with an adult male? Have sleepovers? Party at their mansion with other adults?
Have them move cross country without them?
A parent willing to pimp their kid for money.
That's the truth of the matter. Just because a pedophile is a pedophile doesn't mean these parents did a good job protecting their children.
I'm not sold by their ignorance either, "I didn't know my child was molested even though he started acting different!"
As if the predatory culture of Hollywood was something they never heard of, or that there was nothing unusual about their kids suddenly landing it good with all these rich older dudes willing to give them everything in the world in exchange for their (frankly) mediocre child acting.
s2g I would find these parents entirely complicit and call it neglect.
>"but had I stepped in my child might not have landed jobs because the pedophile producers wouldn't have hired him!"
Well then maybe little Jimmy might have had to grow up as a normal, un-molested individual who would be all the better for it, instead of being a famous child actor who you allowed to be sexually abused.
What pieces of sniveling shit they are.
I agree anon
But yknow there's always kids and parents out there that are willing to do whatever it takes to be rich and famous. It's sad
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I agree. There’s weird groups of people who seem to believe that MJ noses are ideal. Different nose shapes can really suit a face and be extremely elegant and beautiful. It adds so much character to a face, and seems refined and dignified. Some threads on here are really obsessed with narrow, pointed noses. I mean you do you but different strokes, and I would prefer a world populated by individuals than MJ clones tbh.
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That’s so funny to me cause I find black men a huge turn on. Like if I was honest irl about it, I’d probs get shouted at for “fetishizing” or “jungle fever.”
A well groomed black man with amazing style and nice hands brings me to my fucking knees.
Are you unattracted to the skin color or facial features or both?
Anyone who tries to make you feel bad for that has the brain capacity of a toad for not being able to grasp that you can't help what you like and they should be completely cut from your life. Don't worry about those people. You're a better person than they'll ever be.
Here's another look at it, not wanting to fuck and reproduce with someone does not equal being disrespectful to them as a person especially just for their race.
I find them sexually attractive regularly but I find non white genitals so unattractive. The rest is fine, but contrary to popular (incel/MRA/etc) opinion the BBC is the least appealing part.
I probably wouldn't date one though. Non black guys flip the fuck out at the very idea and I'm not risking a future relationship/my reputation for the sake of not being racist, plus my dad would disown me. That said they're a really small minority in my country, it's pretty much a non-issue and I'll never have to make that choice in reality.
I feel bad for all the Instagram/tumblr teens who see WILDLY photoshopped images of "real" girls their age and feel inadequate
It's pretty funny that I grew up to people whining about photoshopped fashion models, when at this point in time looking like Kate Moss is way more achievable for most than the huge-eyed-tiny-pointed-chin-huge-lips-giant-hips-tiny-waist shooped monstrosities positing themselves as "real" relatable teens to very impressionable audiences
Summary: I agree
I dont mean to sound like a hippie or anything but if we're being honest, there's ugly, average and drop dead gorgeous people of all skin/hair/eye color variations, someone claiming that people with x y z variations are ugly/pretty is just dumb and unfair, its all about face really and how you carry yourself
I don't get why people have to put girls against each other when, unless you have some weird racist/racial superiority complex, you can easily find gorgeous women of all types, especially when its just as something little as hair color/race/skin color/etc
I agree. There's a lot of shows on netflix of women who get plastic surgery and they always look either a.) the same or b.) worse. They put themselves through intense physical and emotional pain just to come out the otherside not even looking like themselves anymore.
There was one where a woman got her forehead shortened because she thought it was too big. She basically had her hairline cut and pulled down. She looked the same, if not less pretty, and basically fully regretted it.
I don't know why people think ps is this quick fix magic wand. They're messing with the features that make them unique and beautiful.
Yeah sjw and inclusivity culture tries to make people feel guilty for that phenomenon and will flat out say that not being fully sexually attracted to all races makes you fucking racist.
Or the inverse. As a white woman attracted to black men, I've had black women tell me they would basically ostracize any black man who dated a white woman. They honestly believe that black men "belong" to black women, and white women are "stealing our men." Its fucking insane.
>black men who prefer white women are fucking awful about black women
that's such a generalization.
Let people date whoever they want, regardless of race.
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I'm not just not attracted sexually to them, i find their features downright repulsive.
Not sure if that's even an unpopular opinion though, sticking to your own race is the norm, i don't think any of my friends would ever consider dating one (not that there are any there i live to begin with).
For example, this is the most attractive black celebrity according to Buzzfeed, but if i look at his face there's not one single thing that i find even just a little bit attractive, especially big mouths just freak me out…
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I don't want it to turn into an black bashing circle jerk but same, I can't even find black models like Adonis Bosso or pic related attractive. And I don't understand this obsession with "all women want a strong black men" that some white guys have, it screams racism and insecurity to me. I was so taken aback when I broke up with my ex bf and he cried that he knew all I wanted was a sexy black men with a huge dong, so fucking uncomfortable…
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Me too until Black Panther…yeah I know, so normie of me.
I did always find black women attractive though.
Prefering white guys over black guys or vice versa is a question about your own taste, some prefer this, some prefer that.
But saying that black girls in general are more eloquent than white girls has nothing to do with personal preferences…
>>241822>they’re always so much more eloquent and personable than white girls tbh
The only black girl in my town calls herself "Chocolate [insert her name]", because what man wouldn't want to eat
something as delicious looking as her?
She fulfills pretty much every stereotype, so i've yet to see an example for a non-trashy black woman lol
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That’s because in America there is the “one drop rule” dating back to slavery where you’re considered black if you have even “one drop” of black blood.
That’s why people like Jessie Williams are considered black even though they have pale eyes, skin, and thin lips.
I think most of them are quite nice and funny to be around but I don't understand why a lot are quite intense too, I met a very nice woman in the train not too long ago and after talking a little bit about some problems with my boyfriend she advised me to go tell the cops he's a pedophile that'll teach him
. Like wtf, how can you even think about this kind of thing lmao.
Mais oui, c'est clair !
For the longest time I've thought I was racist like my parents. But with time and living in a big city instead of a village, I've found that I would totally bang a long haired nerdy fully occidentalized college black dude. It's not a race thing, it's a class thing for me.
I've heard about lolicon artists that use 3dp photos, readers that started consuming 3dp pedo media after getting hooked.getting and stuff, so I'm very hesitant with backing the "it doesn't hurt anyone, it's only fiction" argument.
I can only speak for myself, but I like anime style lolis. However, I feel no attraction to real children or even artistic depictions in different styles (like western cartoon/more "realistic", etc), I think all of that is gross and disgusting, and I think anyone who feels attracted to actual kids or wants to do something to them is sick in the head.
I think depictions of adult women in anime are attractive, but I also find irl adult women attractive. Therefore I don't see how liking loli art makes me a pedophile.
I think there would be plenty of pedophiles who like loli, obviously, but I don't think liking loli and nothing else is the same as "real" pedophilia.
>>242100>I like anime style lolis
You do realise that the words "loli" and "shota" don't mean simply "young anime character" right?
They mean "sexualised child" in the otaku culture. If you, not only like, but fap to that you are engaging in a pedo like act.
Aesthetic attraction =/= sexual attraction
While I cannot read your mind, I doubt you are "attracted to naked cartoon children but not rl children" like you claim
Everyone is attracted to something for a reason, and since loli revolves around nude children, you are attracted to loli because they're naked children, and the slippery slope exists, even though you claim not to be attracted to real children, eventually it can evolve into actual pedophilia, hence why so many things that were once considered unattractive/not really cared about, when hentai anime became popular, people started becoming attracted to those things
Prepubescent children dont need to be sexualized, and imo anyone who likes loli or shotta should NOT be around children, even if they claim they dont like actual children
Okay you special snowflake explain why ever since erotica art was a thing, people drew what they were attracted to irl and consumers who got off to it liked it irl as well
Some guy paints a fat girl, other men buy it and get off to it or use it as an example of beauty or whatever, this has been an example since the beginning of erotic art but magically loli consumers are special snowflakes and arent actually attracted to kids they just like pretending to be sexually attracted to kids right? This is retarded>>242126>real or realistic children are disgusting
Then whats the point? You wanna fap to naked little girls getting molested in cartoon world? What do you get out of that? If you really are attracted to naked little girls in a cartoon then your brain is releasing the attraction hormone for a reason, get help, and never go near kids
I don't think there's anything special about it, and I don't think lolis are the only example of someone liking something sexually only in art and not irl. For an extreme/not in real life example some people like dumb tentacle porn or whatever and they'd probably grossed out and scared if there was a real-life slimy tentacle rape creature somewhere trying to touch them.
Lolis (anime style) don't look much like actual kids to me, anime style features in general are pretty divorced from real life I suppose. I don't know if there's a "point", I just see art of them and it looks appealing to me sexually. It's been years and it hasn't changed or gotten worse, and it's not the main or only thing I like. People suddenly act like fetishes or arousal have to make logical sense when it comes to loli even when it generally doesn't. >>242136
That explains it pretty well.
a-anon, uh, first off it says right on wikipedia, and lolicon comes
from the japanese term lolita complex, which is where loli comes from. loli and shota are media genres, the words came into use during the 70s buy the media and the public to describe people who read media that depicted (non sexual) young men and girls, shoujo and shounen manga read by older readers outside the demographic.
So its not sexual attraction, its aesthetic attraction, plain and simple
Also if theyre attracted to certain features of the character what exactly seperates it irl? Obviously perfect drawn humans still reflect your attraction, if you're attracted to naked little cartoon children, chances are if the "perfect" one pops up irl you'll be attracted to it as well, again these attractions dont appear out of nowhere>large eyes, soft features, soft skin
And? Lots of humans have these features, if thats what you like then why go choose a child out of all things to represent that?
If that's so, why not just read or wach cute shoujo manga/anime with cute kids wearing non sexual garments and poses?
I call bullshit, at least admit you are a deviant.
Yet it still reflects
Again, what makes YOU the special snowflake exception? What exactly are you getting out of naked little cartoon girls and being sexually attracted to them "but not irl!!!"
You sound twice as crazy as me, fuck off>>242149
Okay then just for anime adults if thats the case, if theres just a "thing" you like that seperates them yet you choose sexualized children to get off to and it says a lot about you>>242151
Honey give up, youre insane, instead of shitting your pants over someone replying just fuck off, plain and simple
Then its aesthetic attraction>>242154
And what is it exactly? Is it naked little kids? Why would someone choose to be attracted to naked little girls in cartoons but "totes not irl"
Again, seek help before you burst into flames over something that doesnt even involve you>>242156
Then leave little girls alone and not sexualize children, especially if you are the one drawing them and the main consumers are pedophiles
NTA, but this is the person who was engaging the lolicon artist months ago.>>>/ot/213329
it's her for sure.
>inb4 anyone opposing her that responds too quickly is samefag
No1curr about you going crazy over me because i think sexualizing children is wrong and gross>>242161
Again, people are attracted to things for a reason
Example, people who like thigh highs in anime almost always like them irl, people who like brunettes in anime almost always like them irl even though "they look nothing alike", so what makes kids some magic exception
Lmao, you're fucking nuts m8
I just read the thread again and no one was proven samefag, wtf.
I think a lot of the appeal when it comes to hentai in general is the whole "perfectly designed versions of humans" thing. I find RL porn to just be too gross to watch, and I never find myself attracted to the performers. It's also too fake. When watching hentai I don't even really make the mental connection that it's depicting people, it's just sexually stimulating to look at.>>242149
Why do you like loli though? Is it specifically because they're kids? Is it the power dynamic? Is it that you prefer more petite bodies (small tiddies) that are less common in usual hentai? I personally can't enjoy it if it directly mentions being underage or if features popping her cherry. It makes me way too uncomfortable.>>242158
Do you actually think you'll ever convince some anon on an image board to just stop jacking it to whatever they like? You think whatever nonsense you type up means that much to them? Wild.
If its for "perfect humans" why choose naked little girls? Thats disgusting
>Do you actually think you'll ever convince some anon on an image board to just stop jacking it to whatever they like? You think whatever nonsense you type up means that much to them? Wild.
Where did I say that? Where? Stop flipping shit out on me and actually read
I don't think anyone is being hurt by someone liking incredibly unlifelike drawings of anime 11 year olds. A lot of people like things I'd consider gross on some level, but that don't actually harm anyone, so I don't care.
And to be clear, I don't think "doesn't actually harm anyone" applies to pedos who like to look at kids or look at child porn.
IMO that's the least offending and most understandable reasons to be into it. I believe if someone's actually a pedo they're not gonna watch loli, they'll consume actual child pornography. >>242175
It's actually bonkers lmao.
Its not about people being hurt its the fact that anime and porn influcences a lot of people irl and you know it, especially sexually
I'd rather kids not get sexualized at all even if "IT DOESNT HURT ANYONE DOE!!!" since a lot of things that get sexualized people act on, slipperly slope
Traps for example, one minute men hated all of them, then when anime made it popular suddenly everyone wants a trap, explains why when loli increased in japan, now almost every mofo there is a pedophile
Well some of us are trying
to have a discussion about animu porn preferences and keep getting interrupted by a fly.
Anyway I'd love to add some of you guys on discord since it's very hard being female and liking loli, so let me know if you'd like to add. I can make a throwaway server so we don't have to out our usernames,
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>the amount of samefaggotry
Uh, I know a friend who likes tentacle porn and they told me that if there were some real alien creature in a room somewhere that would tentacle porn them they'd do it
No bestiality, must be an alien with the hots for humans
Yawn, I already explained why "everyone is attracted to something for a reason" not even gonna bother explaining again
Incest is gross, idc if its a fish fanfiction, someone is thinking of it and getting off even if its fictional, its gross>>242182
Good job misinterpreting what im saying, loli is little girls, since everyone is attracted to something for a reason, and since anime is everywhere and out of all anime things to choose from, even though they claim "to not like it because it is a child", they choose children to fap to, plain and simple>>242186>i dont get it why would someone be grossed and weirded out about people getting off to naked little girl drawings :-(
That "harmless fetish" are little girls, and since we've seen anime evolve to actual attractions many times, i think its best if we dont have little girls being drawn naked fot sexual purposes at all>>242197>cant even respond to me while talking about me in the same place>shitting yourself and making a huge deal to anyone that replies to me as being crazy>claims im crazy for responding to you when you are literally talking about me right in front of me
Have some self awareness
It's crazy how much she's forcing it. She's right in the sense that people are attracted to certain things for certain reasons. I'm >>242169
and when I asked why anons are into loli both answered it had to do with body types, no mention of the fact it's depicting children. I like how she didn't acknowledge that though.>>242199Did you guys hear something?
Oh yeah obviously little girls being sexualized is no big deal and its not like so many anime shit that has been fetishized has later been reflected into people's real life sexual attraction but yeah lets just dismiss it because "it grosses me out" totally has nothing to do with the fact the vast majority of loli consumers are actual pedos
So what? Someone likes incest in anime but totes doesnt like it irl now? Okay then>believing incest is harmless in thr first place
Did you pay your trailer park rent yet?
Yeah fucking moral fags how they think little girls and incest shouldnt be sexualized or seen as attractive
Go back to /b/ most of us have decency here>>242204
If its about bodies choose adults to fap to, not children, jeez,why is everyone so hurt because i think little girls shouldnt be drawn naked or seen as sexy
>>242210>liking irl relatives is just as harmless
Say no more>>242212
Again, check yourself, you rage at anyone who replies to me but call me crazy? Lmfao, this place really is crawling with mental patients
Can YOU read?>Liking irl incest is just as harmless if it's not about you incest-ing your own relatives, it's more like a forbidden love/voyeuristic thing.
Is exactly what you said, word from word
hey anon, what would you say to me if i told you i like loli incest porn? like where two lolis are sisters and do incest but also do incest with their older brother. triggered
>>242218>some rando chick as been shitting herself anytime someone replies to me>no one is raging tho
Thanks for proving yourself delusional>>242219>vanilla as incest fantasies
Yawn, same shit as saying the word nigger to people who tell you not to say it, im glad the people who are opposing me always expose themselves as batshit crazy/trolls/hypocrites/inbreds/btards
>>242223>dont interact with her xdddd shes crazy i swear shes psycho i know her shes extremely crazy just dont talk to her man shes crazy she will leave if you dont reply except me I get to subreply to her shes so crazy man xD just look how crazy she is
Self awareness is a virtue
>tfw anons were right about this person all along.
please, what >>242227
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ok so here's my unpopular opinion
I can't stand Rihanna, her music sucks and I think she's tacky and acts ratchet as fuck. I'm especially annoyed at how everyone's been sucking her clit over Fenty beauty
And yet most people I know are civilized enough to think its gross, even other people made videos on americas "dirty secret" ie incest porn being popular, im guessing youre american>>242231
Okay anon we believe you
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can we please stop replying to that gross, incest-loving pedo/robot?
it's pretty clearly a male robot larping.
what are you
talking about? have you visited the shameful fetish thread? it's obvious that multiple anons here like loli and incest.
Clearly all robots LARPing, girls are pure and would never like such dirty, disgusting things!
Anyone who doesn't believe women can have diverse sexual preferences sounds like the robot to me lol
>>242250>ignoring bot behaviors>everyone here loves incest and pedophilia i swear!!
Do you not remember the girl who was called out by everyone because she talked about wanting to corrupt little boys?>>242251
"Its just pretend incest not REAL incest"
Again, back to the trailer park you go
It doesnt appear out of thin air anon
The same reason why lots of people with teacher fantasies often wanted to fuck their actual teacher, lots of people with boss/employee fantasies would fuck their actual boss if they were attracted to them if given the chance, same with nurse/patient
Do you really think incest fantasies are completely unrelated to actual incest?
Okay, keep proving my point>>242265
They're not "just as bad" but still bad and should not be encouraged, do you really think rape and pedophilia and incest acts totally didnt start out as fantasies? Right
you're really fucking stupid aren't you.
rape is a pre-modern human phenomenon and has nothing to do with fantasy, same with incest, it wasn't taboo until a few centuries ago and was in fact promoted to retain bloodlines. ffs. i'm like talking to someone who got all of their knowledge by reading a wiki article one time and parroting it again and again.
And I knew people who were fucking unicorns, i dont care about people "you claim to know with incest fantasies but they totes wouldn't do it irl", i can easily claim i write stories about how and when id shoot up a school but if someone says i need help i can claim its just a fantasy and would never do it irl>>242274
Did i say that? No, the anon was making it obvious they saw it more as an aesthetic attraction for loli than sexual, rape and gang bang or actual acts oh wait i forgot you need something to rage about>>242275
Your point? Its still for something sexual and should be seen as a warning sign, if a kid was drawing himself shooting other kids would you pass it off as a harmless fantasy and totally nothing to be concerned about since not all kids who draw that shoot up schools or want to? Right>>242279>using old timey incest as justification
Maybe this place is really being infested with bots
true, but they sure as hell don't promote it now.>>242284
i can't even with you. no one was justifying shit, i was simply stating that you're a blithering retard who's using false info to try to prove your point.
Ignoring warning signs and passing them off as edgy phases is retarded, especially when it includes actual fantasizing about acts like so
Please dont work with kids if all youre gonna do is pass off textbook warning signs as a phase or fantasy
Mock morality all you want, unless you teach people right from wrong, these things will only increse
Oh? And what is that false info exactly?>>242288
Can you come up with another defense instead of subreplying and screaming "GUIZE SHES SOOOO CRAZY I SWEAR SHES A LOON LOOK HOW CRAZY SHE IS GUIZE VERY CRAZY OH SO CRAZY HOW INSANE ANON IS WHAT A PSYCHO AMIRIGHT"
literally you are the only one raging like that here
you sound like you need a friend
Ah crazy anons projecting is back, cant wait til mods get here
Actually ill write out your next response>GOSH ANON UR CRAZY WERE NOT SAMEFAGS WE JUST ALL HAPPEN TO RESPOND AT THE SAME TIME BECAUSE UR CRAZY XDDD SO CRAZY GO TO THERAPY
But I'll give you points though, it takes a special type of delusion to accuse someone of "craving attention" on an anonymous board>>242305
You aren't here to hear opinions. You don't want level headed discussion. You don't want to hear anyone's side but your own. You reply to posts you aren't even tagged/talked to making it about yourself. You've spent 2+ hours straight on this thread immediately replying to almost every post. You legitimately don't come across as mentally sound and just keep parroting yourself. No one is taking you seriously and yet here you are, still. What are you trying to accomplish? Whats the end goal? We hear what you're saying but you just CANNOT accept the fact people disagree, and it's alarming. We should have all listened to >>242131
. God, I wish we knew your social media. You seem like you'd be a great cow.
>>242313>purposely being a dunbass
I said using video games to simulate it, oh wait that doesnt allow you to splerg, right>shootings the same as only children with incest fetishes. :^)>again with purposely being a dumbass
We were talking about fantasies, fantasies, F A N T A S I E S, we're on the same page? Great, because we were talking about how fantasies should be viewed as warning signs, not "SCHOOOL SHOOTINGS ARE INCEST FANTASIES!!"
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this is like that time in Rick and Morty when Beth called out Jerry for crying himself to sleep after someone called him a dumbass in the youtube comments and he replied "takes one to know one" and stayed up all night refreshing the browser
this crazy bitch itt is Jerry
sorry to burst your bubble but the only one getting banned is you.
btw i was in the vent thread and i didn't get banned despite your claims of 'samefag'
also can you please explain why you think that if the posts are at the same time it's samefag? do you think that's what the same in samefag means? sametimepostfag?
>>242327>the only one getting banned is you
Say no more kek
When I called you out, instead of being more concealed you couldn't have made it more obvious
New thread so this one can die with some of it's dignity left.>>242347
I think the "loli" troll is an instance that can't leave this thread so we're probably safe.
that doesn't make "splerging" any less embarrassing>>242349
binch, it's "sperging"
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jfc. Why did you let this happen, mods?
>>242272>do you really think rape and pedophilia and incest acts totally didnt start out as fantasies?
Can you even basic logic?
All acts start as fantasy.
Does that mean every fantasy will result in acts?
wait so who's the alleged samefag? because I'm>>242296>>242305>>242324
and Crazy thought me and at least one other person were samefag
Crazy thinks that "true" means that her assumption is true. So it was no one.>>242390
Anon, it's script, it doesn't mean it's 'true' what the fuck? Try it on your computer.
Uhh no when it goes in successfully it says reported posts, the only time I've ever gotten true is when samefags and bots were later proven to be samefags and bots>>242389
Then youre batshit crazy
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You wish.,this is what successful reported posts look like, when it says "true" it means either mods agree and already banned them or it was a bait post
Honey quit screaming "THEYRE SO CRAZY XDD" then telling people not to interact with me when your pathetic ass is literally interacting and purposely baiting me, like i said, self awareness is a virtue
Ps come up with something else other "OMG STOP REPLYING SHES O SO CRAZY BUT THE DELUSIONAL PROVEN SAMEFAG??? OH THEYRE FINE BUT THE ANON THAT STATES FACTS IS JUST CRAZY DONT LISTEN TO THEM"(stop)
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Hmm. I wonder why they only write "true", which is part of coding language, rather than literally anything else, such as "yes" or "you right" or "yea, my dude". So mysterious.
Sorry about your severe retardation, fam.
Imagine thinking the mods are talking to you using the same one word all this time.
Crazy thinks samefag was successfully exposed when you and I, accused of samefagging, are still here like
is she on a crystal meth high or
This does nothing but prove my point>>242409
So still… My point? I never reported any post, the ones i did were marked as true, similar happened to me when i tried reporting a bot that was later proven a bot
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>unpopular opinion thread
>see opinion i dont agree with
said if we want to communicate with users we use the ban system and issue a temporary one second or one minute ban to send the message. We don't use the report field on posts.
This is clearly the samefag pretending to be a mod to trick everyone!
Jk thanks, I was seriously confused by where this discussion went.
Thanks, mod-chan. Sorry for arguing and being a shitter. (I need to go to bed)>>242421
Right? I seriously thought I was high or something, it was just too retarded.
I really want mods to like mark this persons posts tbh…
If she got banned on her phone, then posted those screenshots from her computer or something, that may be why it said "true." I've only gotten that message is when I was banned, reported a deleted post, or the site was just being weird.>>242423
I don't think this is an unpopular opinion; youtube really has become an utter shithole.
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lmao we're calling you crazy because that's obviously your most identifiable characteristic
>Honey you were exposed, we're not dumb
who the fuck is "we"? also that's rich coming from the banned bitch, you dum-dum
again, get a new insult outside of "SHES SO CRAZY ONN DRUGS XDDDD">>242418>getting embarrassed on an anon board
this..literally still proves my point lmfao>>242421>>242417>pretending it's still about "disagreement">>242425
crazy =/= wrong
screaming crazy gets you nowhere
maybe youd have a point if the discussion didn't revolve around calling me crazy and nothing else
and the mod came in and proved my point so?
>>242439goes away for a few hoursan insane loli-fan pedo is reporting everyone and freaking out
And yes Anon, True/False is a script thing, there's like 3 mods here and they don't check reports immediately
I once had an italian friend with whom i constantly argued. Thinking about it and seeing how italians like to portray themselves makes me wonder if it wasn't just her who's obnoxious, but italians in general…
An example of one of our arguments:
>says the food in other european countries is shit, only they have real coffee, real chocolate, real pasta etc
>some others politely disagree
>No, it's true!
>I ask then why do they also sell shit like pineapple pizza
>REEEEE it's all the stupid tourists fault!
>Well, but isn't tourism important for your economy
>We don't need tourism at all, we're fine!
The next day
>Anon, you have it so easy, getting a job in Italy nowadays is sooo hard!
That's just one example, but every other conversation also went "Me, me, me!"
Another thing that she found "disgustingly cold" is that people outside of Southern Europe often only shake hands instead of kissing their friends…
Being passionate or prideful is good, but acting like only what they do or like is right, that even small things like certain dishes are an "insult" to them, while having no problem with shitting on others…
Yes, italian food is good, nobody ever denied that, but basing your whole identity around it is just crazy.
There are multiple anti-loli Anons, hard to believe I know. Nobody can deny the crazy upthread >>242390>Loli Anon reporting anti-loli posts
Btw I think I know what loli Anon looks like from reading her posts: Thin face, angular thin body, medium length dark brown hair, no makeup or nice clothes. Did I get it right?
>>242462>lolicons>not all hideous white trash
Good joke anon>>242457
This thread was crawling with crazies and theres no denying that,while I agree with anti loli anon but pinning it soley on them is just dumb and unfair especially when there was tons of obvious samefagging and flipping out
Didnt shooter girl get only 10 cents though despite having millions of views?>>242448
That's how a lot of annoying culture is, I usually only see it with italians, french, and americans who live in big cities though who overglorify their shit>hurrr we arent like any other culture>is exactly like x y and z but with different pizza
Its even more annoying when they tbink they're too good for anything outside of culture, then again people who think they're too good for most things are annoying, I've even met people go as far as refusing to eat certain foods just because they think theyre too good for where the food comes from
I mean, if you read the arguments, it was kinda obvious there was a bunch of samefagging against the anti-loli anon(s)
They're both batshit crazy and take things way too far but the pro-lolis were straight up pushing it and enabling it
>>242475>pro loli arguments and people insulting her of samefagging
Can you blame her? It was kinda obvious, not excusing her actions>On second thought the idea of her being mistaken for a pedo when she hates them so much is pretty funny.
When did she get mistaken for a pedo? And is there something wrong with having a huge hatred against pedophiles? Im missing something here
This anon >>242447
did. There's nothing wrong with hating pedos but she seemed pretty off in general.
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I'd like to see any "loli"-lover banned as well, that shit is disgusting and inexcusable…
Pic related is the dream car of one of my former male friends (in STEM and never had a real gf)
>>242482>never had a real gf
P sure i saw something like this at an anime convention, why do anime fans take their shit almost always to a new level? Even twilight fans in late 2000s didn't drive around with team jacob cars
Lucky you two! They prowl fashion design colleges and art installation instagrams. Only take minimalistic pictures of fruit and flowers, etc. Probably use Glossier.
Tumblr user oeut would qualify if she didn’t do occasional modeling actually.
You were already called out by other anons for being crazy and hypocrite. Now quit baiting and wasting time running your mouth telling others "not to reply shes so crazy" while enabling it yourself, even when it was finished you started it yet again
This again, did I say it "hurt" anyone? No, it's wrong, period>>242671
Uhhh, last time I checked, even after things were settled down, annoying subreplying anon brought them up again, with no proof its that person either outside of the claimed writing style and "being anti loli"
Again, if you don't want infighting again, then shut up about "i-its crazy anon I swear!!! Dont reply!!"
>>242682>shes literally been talking to herself
What can you see her ip or something? Are you sure its her thats crazy and not you? Lmfao
Like i said, stop bringing shit up again just because you think its crazy anon, you are the one enabling and annoying everyone, this entire thing literally started again because of you
Except lolicons (so, pedos) have used it to groom kids because its far far more accessible than actual CP while still being art of children being raped (sometimes very obviously just traced over CP because if you just trace it and stylize it people like you will think its totally okay and fine)
Anyone who gets off to any depiction of naked prepubescent bodies is a pedophile.
NTA and I used to live in Finland but there's this weird dichotomy between being uber PC outwardly and not letting anyone into your inner circle inwardly. Foreigners have a hard time getting jobs and I was told multiple times that X position needs someone with "native Finnish skills" (I'm fluent) even though I know it's an English-speaking position and I speak the language way better than what is required for an entry level desk job. As soon as I changed my surname on the CV I immediately started getting callbacks from companies, it's crazy, even for shitty summer jobs like waitressing or housekeeping.
It also reeks of protectionism (and that's coming from someone who lives in a country infamous for being super protectionist towards its companies) and you usually have 2 large corporations controlling the market and keeping everybody out. The biggest examples are S-group and K-group who run practically everything that isn't Lidl in the country, VR who own the railways and charge out the ass for tickets because they can, even when you go to a thrift shop the teaware they have is either Iittala or Arabia, occasionally a Swedish import but even that is stretching it. Everything Finnish is shilled to the max and they always have to mention their country on the Internet and everywhere they go. Their healthcare is crazy expensive but since it's not America they claim it's the "best in the world". I pay a lot less in my home country for the same services.
If you're Russian or some other kind of East European (and therefore an evil commie in their eyes), God help you.
That said, it's still relatively safe and not at all a SJW haven like people online make it out to be. The summers there are beautiful and the people are really funny and warm when they let you get to know them. Men in general are not as warm but are still more respectful towards women and more willing to contribute in a relationship than here. Obviously can't speak for other Nordic countries but that's my experience.
To be fair I'm quite meme heavy myself. But I'm not Swedish, I also grew up in a 'poor' rural and traditional area (ask your friend about the ethnic northern people lmao.) where we don't have many immigrants at all. And most of those who come here either learn the culture and contribute to society or leave because they expected all of Northern Europe to be like Oslo or Stockholm.
Seriously some of them left my area because the internet was too bad and sometimes non existent, there were no modern apartments or shopping malls for them and they hated the long winter + darkness and cold culture.
>Is it not a communist hell that bends over backwards?
People that unironnically say this are either
1. Living in one of the immigrant hell hole areas, eastern Oslo etc or no-go zones in Sweden.
2. Edgy foreigners that think all of the countries/areas are the same because they saw it in a YouTube video. It's kinda like if I said I knew all of America by looking at Los Angeles or that I knew all of Russia because I looked at a shitty town in Sibir.
The areas in the Nordic countries can be parted in three imo.
1. Poor areas with with Northern Europeans, usually found the further north you go. The north is statistically shittier than the south and as far as I know this is universial for all the countries (more child poverty, suicide, depression, alhoholish, pollution you name it).
2. Rich area with Northern Europeans. Found around capitals, west coast of Norway, certain cities in Sweden and Finland etc etc. They're usually quite PC and sometimes even really Americanised.
3. Immigrant hell holes (usually a part of a bigger city, for example the Eastern Oslo or no go zones in Sweden). >>242904>It also reeks of protectionism
Yes lmao. Justifiably or not everything from food, furniture, clothes, looks seem to be held in high regard if its from X-nordic country and protected. I think we only have two brands of milk and chocolate, and just one brand of bread in the area that I live in because the rest is either not allowed on the market because the other brands has monopoly or because nobody wants to buy it because its looked at as shit.
The protectionism comes from the Soviet rule. Until the fall of the soviet union, Finland was an unofficial satellite state, so foreign companies weren't really allowed to operate.
Because of that a lot of bigger companies are still hesitant to enter the market, due to the stigma of Finland being so close to Russia. For the last name thing, I have a foreign name and last name and have never encountered what you describe - so I can't say anything on that.
You are right about the protectionism, luckily the recent governments have been more open to the idea of selling assets and letting go of the monopolies.
Unfortunately due to the soviet history, we still have a strong red/communist movement who are against removing protectionism. The expensive healthcare is a remnant of the welfare state, the government owns everything but nothing makes a profit due to mismanagement. Thus taxes go up and as they try to get rid of the protectionism, the red parties fight against it. They can't raise the taxes anymore, so the healthcare costs have to go up.
I wonder, where were you in Finland? There are a few distinct weird xenophobic cities and areas that could be what you experienced it.>>242901
No, Nordics have forced deportations that are enforced. There is a strong neo-nazi movement in the nordics currently, who like to push the commie agenda. A lot of the nordics hate the communists with passion. The nordics are still a min.95% homogeneous population according to all population statistics.
The Muslim swarm is a meme. Sure in the bigger cities you will see more ethnicities, but the ratio is about the same as anywhere else. You can't expect to go to a city of a million and not have 40 000 ethnic people, considering 4% of the population is ethnic. >>242918
As anon said, all western countries have "bad areas" / "ghettoes". Going to Malmo's ghetto and posting a video on it to Youtube pretending it's how all of the country is, is the same as taking a video of Detroit or Flint and pretending it's how all of USA is. Unfortunately, one of these examples is actually taken seriously on the internet.
>>242938>acting like we don’t have problems with immigrants is pretty ignorant.
OP (>>242887 >>242918
) here, dunno if you comment was at me, but my intention is not to minimise the immigrant issue. I don't live in Sweden nor any immigrant cities so I can't really speak on the situation
Oh there are absolutely problems, but the scope of the problems are something that people need to be realistic about. There's no reason to go on about Muslim swarms and shit like that, it just takes attention away from the actual problem.
I am not a hippie leftie who loves refugees and thinks they can't do wrong, but pretending that the Nordics are like Mogadishu is just retarded. The nordics have a real problem with a generation of muslims who haven't assimilated, have no education so they live on welfare, are dangerous to the local women due to their beliefs and don't understand the local culture.
The thing is that screeching about it autistically is not solving anything. If their education and assimilation costs 100k, but over their lifetimes end up paying 120k in taxes- that enough is a win-win situation.
I lived in Helsinki, so I doubt it was the location. I also have a university diploma from Aalto so I know it's not the foreign education (I actually moved there specifically because of Aalto). Most of my friends and acquaintances from less-than-savory areas (not North America or Western Europe) had trouble finding work anywhere and would usually end up working for a small startup like Sievo (best scenario) or going back to gigwork at SOL, usually the latter. We brought this up with the Finnish unemployment office and the till workers there would usually give one of the several canned responses like "I don't know what the problem is, I never had that issue LOL" or "yeah it is an issue in Finland and we are working on it, have you tried volunteering at a home for the elderly?"
Most of us already have extensive experience in the field and need to feed ourselves somehow so it's either benefits or a proper job, none of that slave work shit. If I wanted to stay there I would've probably been a cleaning lady for the rest of my life despite my qualifications. People shit on immigrants leeching off benefits but don't want to give them any proper jobs or a means to earn a decent living that isn't aimed at 50 year old Somali mothers who don't speak any European language at all.
>>242941>If their education and assimilation costs 100k, but over their lifetimes end up paying 120k in taxes- that enough is a win-win situation.
That's how it's supposed to work in theory, but it'll never happen, anon.
I'm german, not nordic, but e.g. a Syrian man with 4 wives was allowed to stay and because they have 23 children the state pays them over 30.000€ a month. Of course that's an extreme example, but do you really think they'll ever pay that back in taxes? How many german taxpayers does it need to get together such a large sum every single month?
>>242936>There is a strong neo-nazi movement in the nordics currently, who like to push the commie agenda.
You're either psychotic or don't live in the north for spewing this sort of delusional bullshit. We DON'T have a "strong neo-nazi movement" in any of the Nordic countries. If anything, especially Sweden is full on SJW with muslim pandering. Small groups of single extremist cases posting to /pol/ doesn't equal a "strong neo-nazi movement".>>242904
How do you mean "crazy expensive"? When using the public health care you pay like 30 euros for a doctor's visit or one day in the hospital (including meds), and after a certain threshold (a few hundred euros of annual bills in total) the state covers 100% of your medical expenses. If that's "crazy expensive" then you're just broke as shit or using the private sector which is meant for rich people. >>242951>Moves to Finland just to get a free university degree worth around 60-70k€ in the most expensive university of the country paid with taxpayers' money>still bitches about everything and moves out after not getting a job right away despite the general unemployment rate being at 32%
This is why people don't like foreigners tbh
I agree. We have also people accusing us of turning full on 3rd Reich again, yet you only have shit like this>refugee shelter set on fire>swastikas painted on its wall>immediately pro-refugee marches to advocate for tolerance>turns out it was a refugee that tried to frame neo-Nazis
Neo-Nazi movement my ass…
>>242904>being uber PC outwardly and not letting anyone into your inner circle inwardly
That sounds perfectly logical and like a great idea all-around.
The world thinks it's our moral duty to accept anyone who wants to immigrate here, regardless of whether or not they share our culture? We must accept them even though their values are complete opposite to ours? Even though they're not only unwilling to assimilate but also think we
should join their
Well, that's fine. They're free to come in our land. Just don't expect us to accept them in our lives or hire them
instead of a native.
They didn’t mention the immigrants not wanting to acclimate or adopt culture/customs.
You just made a shit ton of assumptions about immigrants and their behavior in other countries
Are you really trying to tell me Muslims are willing to assimilate? See >>242956
. Or are you telling me European countries aren't suffering under the strain that immigrants put on a system big on welfare state?
Only slightly related, my own unpopular rant:
I have decided to avoid /ot from now on.
Not directed at that anon but in general, reading about the personal lives of some of our users makes me feel embarrassed.
I’m not offended or outraged by it, it’s just kind of saddening to see that so many people who come here are clearly very mentally ill and not right in the head.
That said—not everyone, we’ve still got some funny gals that live pretty decently and contribute some great stuff—but the older I get and the farther we drift from the golden stamina rose era the more I get annoyed having to see a bunch of crazies behind the curtain.
So many girls that are obviously unhappy and in need of psychological help come here and while I think this is a great place if you’re sound, if you’re ill it seems to fuel your delusions and unhappiness.
And instead of being adults about it and saying “yeah it’s true” and moving on there are anons who will flat out deny
it and claim no real farmer could possibly
believe that and that it must be a robot or conspiracy111!!1
I’m here to shit on crazy bitches, that’s what lolcow is for right?
Well it starts to feel like a total ouroboros when you realize you’re also engaging in comradery and dialogue with bitches just as crazy. I know it’s selfish to miss our Seccret Cclubz but man, sometimes I get nauseous when I read the blatant illness.
I don’t expect you to but it’s as valid an opinion as any and it doesn’t make me a newfag or a bot. >inb4 if u cunt take da heat stay out of da kitchen u retard bitch!!!11
See this. This is what I’m talking about. We can have civil discussions without it being >b8!!!!!!11111
Anyways goodnight farmers hope you had a good weekend etc.
This, its insane the things people will make up or say when infighting, or how much obvious samefagging goes on, they can't even agree to disagree anymore, they'll take hours out their day ranting about how some rando anon they never seen is fat or ana, and its over the most ridiculous shit too like the batshit insane anon who randomly started talking about "saudi prince turds u anorexic slut!!" Just because anon was talking about weight gain trends/thick culture being annoying
There's no denying that people jump to the fatty card for the most retarded reasons,you point this out and instead of anon opening their eyes they claim its because everyone here is fat and thats totally the reason everyone is so annoyed with the insane body standards here, despite there actually being an ana problem, especially since this place had a past in pro ana and thinspo thread but im just a jealous sensitive fatty right? I miss when ot was laid back and a good way to make friends, but now next thing you know, even talking about anything to do with bodies will result in anons going days on end saying the most literal crazy shit possible, and thats not even the worst part, like the "incest is vanilla loli is okay" folks. You'd think with how much this place hates 4chan, so many people here adapted their same sick behaviors
>>242969>Also I'm an EU citizen so I could have gone anywhere for my free degree, it's my right.
No you couldn't. Only Austria, Cyprus, Greece, Malta, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark and some parts of Germany and Scotland offer free university education for EU citizens. >>242972
Compared to most countries where you have to pay over 1000 for simple work done (like a root canal treatment) that's not really "crazy expensive". Dental work is the most expensive one (basic fillings range from 40 to 80 euros mostly) and not well covered by the public healthcare, I'll give you that, but rest of the healthcare is very affordable, including meds. Citizens can also apply for social benefits to cover all the costs in case they can't afford their medical bills.
I kink-shame like a motherfucker. I'm not exactly vanilla myself, but if I'm arguing with someone, and I find out they're into something cringy, like being a cuck, wearing diapers, scat, sissyplay, etc, I immediately stop taking anything they have to say seriously.
I think fetishes in general should just remain as private as possible, honestly. I hate that people now think it's cute to talk about being dd/lg freaks, and that I can't look for cute/girly clothes without encountering at least one shirt that reads "Daddy". Shit's disgusting. What you get off to should only be the business of you, your partner and the Lord. Talking about it on anonymous boards, and sticking to spaces and venues specifically catered to said fetishes/kinks should be the extent of how share-happy you are.
Let a little try to argue with me. I'll inevitably tell them to stop using big girl/boy words, go find their daddy/mommy, and post pictures of pacifiers until they fuck off.
I agree, I don't know anyone in my adult life who openly talks about their kinks irl.
Come to think of it, there's only like two people I see discussing kink on my fb and that's because they're trying to be sex posi cause they're camgirls and it's basically their life. Although tbh even seeing their ranty posts on fb about it is super cringe.
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Imo Beyonce is a narc. She's constantly portraying herself as the "strong warrior queen slay!1!1" her fans hail her as.
What is she "fighting" against? Why is every other celebrity kissing her ass? Why is she "so strong"? As far as i know she (or at least her husband) grew up quite comfy, so stop pretending you had a hard life.
Pic related is what she wore at Coachella. I always thought festivals are supposed to be simple, with a chill atmosphere etc, not some mega show…
she looks like that evil bitch from power rangers.
i don't get the beyoncé hype or understand what her age is. i rememebr watching smart guy in the 90s and marcus and moe took destiny's child to prom. i like the conspiracy theories about her age lol.
she seems really dumb imo.
1. She's one of the first black female artists to make it big in the modern era
2. Her entire persona is based around being glam, "fierce", confident, queenly and sexy, which appeals to a lot of chicks who can't afford to be "glam" all the time, but enjoy living vicariously, and effeminate gay guys
Her persona is tailored to be both hyper-feminine in the mainstream-accepted sense (so, nothing too "out there" or artsy, unlike Solange), and empowered to fit the "strong black woman" archetype. The "Beyonce" image has its cake and eats it too by embodying the stereotype of a sassy, strong black woman (and the "white gaze" loves to see stereotypes fulfilled), and
makes black American girls and women feel confident that they, too, can be "all that".
I personally prefer Rihanna's aesthetics and general persona (seems more down to earth, and not afraid to branch out and be creative), but she came directly after Beyonce.
Don’t underestimate nostalgia. A lot of 20-30 something women grew up listening to Destiny’s child and early Beyonce songs. It doesn’t matter how good her current music is or isn’t, her fans will view it with nostalgia-tainted lenses.
She was also the first black woman to headline Coachella, and people always hype the first of something. Not to mention she had enough black culture and symbolism to cause pseudo-intellectual articles, but not too much to hurt white peoples’s feefees
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>>242963>calling me psychotic when you can't get your facts straight
Yes, we do have neo-nazis here. What I mean by strong is that it has suddenly gotten a lot more popular and rooted to the culture. Let me give you some sources.
We just had a court case over it getting a bit too popular and it getting banned… If you're Finnish, no idea what the fuck you've been up to since you missed it. Ever since 2010 the popularism of neo-nazism has skyrocketed, it's not as popular as it was in the 90's, but it has had a lot of recent interest.
The Nordic Resistance Movement last year started officially operating in Denmark and in Iceland in 2016. If you're claiming those aren't strong indications, it's time to put down whatever you're smoking, Anon.https://www.nordfront.se/englishhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nordic_Resistance_Movementhttps://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/finland-bans-neo-nazi-group_us_5a202d7ae4b037b8ea206cf7https://yle.fi/uutiset/3-5493858https://www.vastarinta.com/kansallinen-vastarinta-internet-publication-of-the-nordic-resistance-movement-in-finland/https://seura.fi/asiat/tutkitut/suomen-uusnatsit-vakivaltaiskujen-takana/
Doesn't she pay her Ivy Park workers sweatshop wages? I'm not totally against sweatshops but I think it's really hyopcritical for someone who tries to present herself as such a feminist and progressive. >>243217
Coachella is pretty mainstream these days>>243232
Speaking of Jay-Z i think it's also hypocritical that he denied saying that "I got 99 problems, but a bitch ain't one." In his bio he said he was talking about female police dogs only. I understand that it's normal for rap to be misogynystic and I'm not going to wring my hands every time someone says something like that but it just seems like denial to me. Not really sure why super ~feminist~ Beyonce would marry to someone like that.
Don't cut yourself on that edge
I think there should be a healthy level of confidence, its not healthy for people to flip and cry if they are making 100% straight As with an 8 figure job or whatever but also not good for people to be "okay" with only mediocre type stuff, and also keep in mind not everyone is supposed to be or even should be the highest level of success possible, as cheesy as it may sound, I think its good if people are happy with having simple lives
Also keep in mind lots of "love yourself" type stuff mostly applies for looks, imo if they're hygienic, well groomed and healthy its nothing to worry about
I really don't understand what you gain from painting your own country as evil and refugees as the victims, why?
Do you honestly think they'd help you if the roles were reversed?
>>243255>I think its good if people are happy with having simple lives
This is exactly the kind of thing I'm talking about. People shouldn't be encouraged to settle.
>Also keep in mind lots of "love yourself" type stuff mostly applies for looks, imo if they're hygienic, well groomed and healthy its nothing to worry about
I agree here, but things like HAES piss me off.
It's all marketing. > She's constantly portraying herself as the "strong warrior queen slay!1!1" her fans hail her as. What is she "fighting" against?
Nothing, as you said she had a good life since her birth from what I know from a documentary, so I would say she's just trying to convey an image that sells because people think she looks cool and fierce and feminist, etc. It's basically the same reason why some women buy shirts with things like "the future is feminist" printed on them even though they're made by poor women in third-world countries working in horrible conditions. It's all superficial and for the sake of her reputation but people want to believe in her brand image.
Some fans think that just because she's a black woman in the USA she's part of the oppress