/ot/ - off-topic

No, actually. I'm neutral to positive in real life, and that's partially why I'm so much more negative on here. Lolcow is an outlet, and it's the one place where anything other than flowers and rainbows is allowed, so it feels good to get shit out. I understand the position in the OP and it must be shitty for you, but at the same time, I selfishly hope the tone of the website doesn't change it cause I like it.

I feel you, people are extremely judgmental in every personal thread. I just think many girls here are very frustrated and lack the space to express themselves IRL so they sperg here to other anons.

>>79453
Don't you think that being negative here also constitutes as being a negative person in life as well? I understand it's your outlet, I really do. But I wonder if maybe it's making you a shittier person because you are handing yourself over to so many despicable thoughts and actions.

I only posit this because I'm worried lolcow is making me more negative in a lot of ways. I say shit to people on here I'd never dream of saying in real life, because it's anonymous, because it's the only place to discuss ideas without a name attached. But it feels like less of a place to discuss, and more of a place to lash out at others and demonize them.

I'm not asking for the tone of the website to change. Don't get me wrong, I'm not looking for accommodations. I'll just see myself out of it gets to me too much. I guess I've just seen my self-esteem and outlook on life spiral downward since getting invested in lolcow. And this may just be my fault for being sensitive, honestly. But I wonder if it's because this place can be a right toxic shithole at times and I'd be better off without it.

But all social media fucking sucks, cuckchan sucks, Reddit is for cocksucking pretentious assholes, and cripple chan doesn't have much of a userbase. So I keep coming back to lolcow, even if I probably shouldn't.

Sorry for tl;dr blogpost. I should probably just take things less seriously, step away for a while, and work on making my life less of a shitbucket.

>>79454
Thanks for your agreement, anon. I would even go as far as to say that anons are vicious even in /pt/ and especially in /snow/. Even when /cgl/ was all drama, all the time it had nothing on this place.

My psychologist told me that I should stop visiting lolcow because she's seeing the negative side effects it's having on my self esteem. Why can't I stop coming here?

>>79455
>But I wonder if maybe it's making you a shittier person because you are handing yourself over to so many despicable thoughts and actions.

I don't think so, I just don't equate posting shit with being a shitty person. I guess the connection is either morality or impacting your own mental well-being.


Re morality: It's not a moral problem for me, I don't have a problem with "handing myself over to despicable thoughts" (or actions, but lolcow is all talk and no action of our own). I like experiencing the full range of human emotions, and sperging out on lolcow is safe and has little consequences to me. However, if this is a moral problem for you, you'll really have to figure out your own solution cause I just don't know how to connect with that. I don't believe in thoughtcrimes, and I don't believe thought in itself has a moral value (maybe unless we're talking occult practice or prayer with a purpose in mind, but that's something else entirely), so to me, whether I think "oh, that girl is great" or "oh, that girl is crazy" makes no difference.

Re mentality: I don't put any real feelings into critiquing or getting critiqued. You say despise or hate people that don't live up to the ideal, but talking shit =/= hatred. I can say "gee, Charms tits are horrible what a fuck up" but I don't hate her for having bad tits, I don't have myself for having bad tits, I don't hate anyone with bad tits. I can say "Margo is a fucking bitch"…but really, beyond the Venus thread, my thoughts are just "I wonder what new shit she's pulling today". I don't hate her. I don't really have any strong feelings for her. Your choices to maintain well-being are to either emotionally detach yourself too and use lolcow only as placid entertainment (but that's kind of ~edgy~ cause it is reducing how much empathy you feel) or to force yourself to, idk, post positive shit instead. If negativity impacts you irl, maybe if you make it a habit to be positive, it'll affect you too. Find positive threads to lurk, hide threads that trigger you, compliment cows or anons for doing well, share nice content and post motivating shit that'll also help you "make your life less of a shitbucket" while continuously weening yourself off lolcow. Thing is, I don't think just taking a break will be helpful if you're still gonna be as attached to what goes on here when you come back, so you'll have to either decide to detach yourself or make plans to eventually leave here completely. Otherwise you'll just come back and go down the negative spiral again.

>>79461
Because you are taking this place and people who post in here too seriously, anon. When some retard starts sperging over pretty silly things (that's like 90% of the times on here) I just ignore the post or go to another thread.

If you only have negative friends who do nothing but bitch, moan, and stir up drama, it is possible that your attitude will start to be affected by that.

I think the online communities a person visits can have the same effects.

I keep my lolcow usage limited and I hide threads that I don't like. It makes my experience more pleasant. If you feel like you're becoming too negative because of the hivemind mentality here (all websites have one), then take a break and come back at another time.

>>79451
>Are you all as negative in real life as you are here on lolcow?
I wear different masks.
>professional mask
My coworkers think I'm really nice and quiet. They commented how "adorable" I was when I audibly said I was getting frustrated one time during training. They genuinely think I'm nice, same thing went while I was in college (albeit a bit more pessimistic).
>casual
I'm vulgar but I'm not "negative." I try to be funny. I keep my opinions to myself and don't actively seek to cause drama.
>are you this critical in your life outside of this website?
Probably with myself, yeah. I'm critical about my weight but I also know exactly what to do to fix it so I don't beat myself up about it much. I get too many compliments when I take care of myself and clean up nice to think I'm a complete piece of shit or something. I'm not those fags who constantly self-loathe on here.
I -can- be critical of others but only openly to those who I know can take my criticism (i.e. parents, bf) and I find ways to say my criticisms nicely (friends and coworkers) or don't say my criticisms at all (strangers or psychotic people). >Do you despise and judge those with mental illnesses?
Only the ones who don't help themselves and use it as a crutch. But again, I don't openly make people feel like shit about themselves irl.
>Those with ideas or dreams outside what would be considered normal?
I laugh but again, that's mostly kept between scoffing and laughing with my boyfriend and close friends.
>Girls with faces or bodies or lives are not considered optimal in every single way?
Day-to-day, assuming I'm not looking at them on the internet, they have to be really FUCKED in any of those ways for me to take any particular notice. And even then, I won't actively say something to make them feel like shit.
>Do you secretly hate your friends because they do not live up to the expectations you have for other people?
I have "friends" from high school that I judge on a frequent basis, but again, nothing I say would change anything and I don't care enough about them to potentially throw myself under the drama bomb. I'll laugh from my fb, but they can continue to be a trainwreck for my enjoyment.

See, I guess you can say I really only get negative towards people I kinda know. The people who fucking deserve the shit they get; and typically it takes more than a below average body or an ugly face to get me irritated. Maybe that's why internet personas are so easy for me to judge and talk shit about, the info is being provided for me even if I've never met them irl.

I do notice certain insecurities on lolcow are 'untouchable' and cause a lot of butthurt. Ex. Everyone shits on fatties and girls with mental illness, but tiny boobies and big noses are HUGE triggers

I'm far nicer in life than I am on here. This is where I let my inner bitter old harpy shine. Cows and newfags are pretty much begging for the attention, no matter how negative.

I bitch here so that I'm normal in the real world.

>>79454
This is pretty true for me.

I'm about the same in person as I am on here. I'm not a huge dick but it's fun to gossip. Don't have plenty of female friends so coming here makes me feel like I have them in a sense..? I feel like I contribute a decent amount to this website so I can't stop coming here.

I would never be friends IRL with someone who posts on lolcow. I may know how to behave, how to discipline myself, and remain self aware but I can't control that in others. If I found out any one of my friends posted on here (and I suspect one does, and I'm starting to despise her for it) I probably would immediately distance myself. I do not want to be friends with farmers. I do not like the idea of someone I know making any of the ugly, whiny posts on here. No thank you.

>I've been a farmer since this website sprung from the ashes of stamrose, and I've been drifting away from it recently because it no longer feels like a fun place to keep up with fascinating internet cows, but rather a place for anons to release their misdirected anger onto other anonymous users.
>cause it no longer feels like a fun place to keep up with fascinating internet cows, but rather a place for anons to release their misdirected anger onto other anonymous users.
>cause it no longer feels like a fun place to keep up with fascinating internet cows

Do you read your posts before you post them or what…..????

>>79797
You sound lame and stuck-up.

Eh I'm not really negative in real life and definitely not as judgmental.
I like reading the drama of lolcows more than just jabs at their appearances. Lolcows I've never been able to get into were any of the ana ones since they are like… actually mentally ill? It just isn't fun to me.

If I am judgemental irl its always behind closed doors with my husband. We love to bitch about things together, its awesome.

>>79799
Why, because I want to be friends with positive people that don't angrily mash their keyboard about other people's nasolabial folds? Pffft.

>>79802

>postive people

You sound pretty negative.

Not towards other people

If anything, it's just the hatred for myself that I retain outside of lolcow and 4chan. I'm just a bitter schlump because I don't have friends and for some very good reasons so making negative posts all day can be very therapeutic in a way.

>>79797
This tbh

>>79807
Nice samefag.

>>79809
One day someone will finally agree with you, anon.

>>79812
LOL ok den

Well OP, you're right, some anons are really negative and can bash you from the nowhere. It's embarrassing when you open a thread and see a flame going on for the stupidest reasons.
I think they're mostly trolls, but probably some are legit spergs, like female robots.
I quote >>79454

>>79816
You're on an anonymous message board.

New to the internet, are you?

>>79817
What is your point?

>>79818
Bashing is to be expected. Stop crying over it and deal with it.

>>79798
Yes, I do. What's your point anon?

>>79819
They aren't crying about it though. They're pointing out how pointless some of the shit girls here get mad over is. That's not a lie and you can think that while still being a part of board culture.

>>79817
Actually not, but what OP said is that it wasn't always like this. I personally think, since this is a board dedicated to lolcows, that people should focus on actual cows instead of being like
"I think X shoops herself"
"Lol go cry away u jelly fatty who probz has nasolabial fold"

>>79828
>>79830

Did someone call you fat in a thread? Get over it.

>>79834
You can be able to point out something even when it's not happening to you, y'know. Nobody is crying, just pointing out. There's a large difference actually

OP's question reminds me of a similar discussion we had before.

>>>/meta/1956

Because when someone disagrees with you they must automatically be samefagging.
Here we go.

I think it's sad that people only come here to be shitty to other people.

Kind of thinking of abandoning this place, tbh. inb4 you won't be missed, remember you're here forever, over-sensitive fatty. I just can't deal with how nasty, catty and cruel this place can be, and for absolutely no reason as well.

Also can't deal with the ana-chans or the robots. Wish there was a better place to discuss pixyteri.

>>79906
ur fat

>>79906
>I just can't deal with how nasty, catty and cruel this place can be, and for absolutely no reason as well.

>says this while desiring to continue cyberstalking, gossiping, and overly dissecting the life of Pixyteri, for no reason

You're one of us, bitch.

>>79906
I think it's fair to be shitty towards shitty people, for example Onision. I will never feel guilty for thinking that people like him should kill themselves.

>>79915
>>79931
Lol

>>79946
I'm not talking about cows. Onion deserves to be run over by a bus repeatedly. I'm talking about posters taking out their anger on other posters just because it's fun.

But I guess I just need to get used to it because this is the Internet, right? :^)

>>79949
I don't think OP/others are necessarily saying they aren't "one of you." It's the extreme it's gone to that's become embarrassing. It's…weirdly, unnaturally hostile. I think the main point is that it lacks self awareness. Everything gets embarrassing when it's clear you don't use critical thinking skills, self control, and self awareness. There's no fun in it anymore at that point. You can maturely discuss it with getting defensive. Our Preshus Sekret Gurl Klub isn't the end all be all.

>>79949
Oh wow, accidentally quoted you somehow when I was meaning to respond to this >>79931
Sorry

Ive honestly wondered all this myself.

At first coming here really did make me feel like shit. Ive struggled for a long time with my weight. Then one day I said "wait a minute" im a grown up and there isnt anything an 18 year old can say to make me feel bad about myself. I love my life and I love myself. Id can never let this place tell me what I think is cool to wear, clothes, makeup, hair. there have been a lot of trends that I genuinely like that a lot of you hate.

outside of lolcow im a nice helpful person. I come off as extremely honest even if it hurts, but still people gravitate toward me and trust me bc they know I wont bullshit them.

To answer your question yes, Im critical of other people outside this website, but im just as harsh on myself. I was like this before I found lolcow. But I keep it all inside, unless you ask me. I think the only person im free with is my sister. so in a way I keep coming back here because its like your all sisters to me. I like being apart of something, like a girls club.

>>79802
So farmers are nasty, you don't wanna be their friend, but your poor friends have to tolerate you; a nasty farmer?

Logic.

Lolcow is my venting place. I come here whenever I feel angry or sad and let out some steam to return to normal. I think quite a few of us are like this.

>>79954
….see now you're just defensive. Are you really that insistent on seeing it as unreasonable to not trust another lolcow user? I know how to conduct myself. I know, myself, that I don't go around calling everyone fat uggos and whining incessantly about Everyone Else Being Horrible Desu. But I wouldn't want to choose to spend my personal time with someone who probably refreshes lolcow every few minutes jumping at the chance to make creepy commentary and shitty, unwarranted advice.

The one person I know that posts on lolcow is a very obese know it all with no personal hygiene that I know beyond a shadow of a doubt haunts the beauty threads and gives out advice whilst criticizing as if they themselves aren't really really gross. Surely you realise why that would be an undesirable choice of friendship? This is casual discussion. Nobody expects you to stop being a negative creep. We know you won't.

No, but I'm not really "nasty" on here anyway. I spend a lot of time trying to help random anons in different threads, I've started a few in /b/ for this purpose. In all honesty my comments on here are nowhere near as inflammatory as many. I'm no angel in real life or online but I'm also not a vendettachan.

>>79959
Me as well.

I don't see why a few farmers are getting up in arms over someone pointing out the obvious. Nobody is saying "down with lolcow make this pull," they're saying that this board has started to sound like a middle school cafeteria during lunch, and it's excessive.

Like, do I really honestly have to add #NotAllFarmers

>>79958
I think the problem is, that you are a farmer, but you hate other farmers?

I understand not wanting shitty people in your life. but posting on or lurking lolcow doesn't make you a shity person…But if it did, wouldn't you be considered shitty too?? the pot calling the kettle black kind of thing??

>>79906
You're fat.

>>79964
So are you.

>>79963
The point is going straight over your head so there's no use in trying to reason with you.

>>79931
Why arent you confronting the OP tho? She is basically saying the same thing

There's definitely less milk all around now, so there's less worthwhile content to aim the derision at. I think that's a change most people can acknowledge and don't like. That blows.

But "a fun place to keep up with fascinating internet cows?" So you never commented or enjoyed the mocking comments directed at cows… this was more like a newsletter for you?

I feel like you're being transparently dishonest about why you're here. And you're just doing the exact thing you're complaining about by getting up on your high horse and asking dumb, obviously factious questions. 'just wondering lolcow are you all monster demon harpy cunts, signed me, a precious ray of light and virtue that only wishes to know where I may view the next PT cosplay so I can print it out and put it on my fridge.' Get over yourself.

>>>>79958
How am I being defensive?
I pointed out how flawed your reasoning is. I anything, you're the one being defensive.

Did you or your incredibly high horse ever consider that most people know how to conduct themselves?
Or are you sitting up there imagining that everyone else who posts here is a slavering, screaming tool, constantly refreshing the boards so they can unleash their plebeian hate force upon someone nasolabial folds or bad eyebrows?

I don't know why you think you're superior to the rest of us anon, you're here bitching and screeching with the best of us. Why don't you ride that whacked out high horse right the fuck back to tumblr where someone might lick your pretentious asshole the way you want?

TL;DR
>im better than anyone who posts on lolcow!
>posted on lolcow

I'm a cunt here. In real life, I'm charismatic and been described as incredibly empathetic and diplomatic. I like the disassociation that this place brings.

>>79980
Lmao, I think you're reading into my OP a little too much. Maybe projecting a bit as well?

Never said I was perfect. In fact, two posts down from the OP I state, "I say shit on lolcow that I wouldn't dream of saying in real life."

It was kind of a newsletter to me. Something I'd read over with my morning coffee. Of course I'd join in, of course I'd post about the cows, still do. But you have to admit there comes a point when it's no longer "fun" when you see people needlessly attacking others for the stupidest shit.

Good discussion here, farmers. I wasn't trying to be pretentious or set up the Salem Witch Trials here and ordain my "pure" self as judge, jury and executioner. As stated in the first sentence, this is a question I'm very curious about. I want to know what farmers are like outside of this place, and if their posts here make them more negative as a whole.

At first I was like wtf for this thread but I won't deny whether it's the vendetta threads that seem the be springing up or people starting fights on threads on shit like hair care there is some negativity.

But I feel like that comes for the insecure anon, who they themselves probably haven't achieved/ struggle to get something they desire. Whether it's with their looks, job etc. So they come here to take it out. Maybe they are a fucking butterface and instead of trying to learn how to put on makeup or style their hair to build some self confidence they make vendetta thread. Mad someone is getting gifts because they are attractive and they aren't and have to work.

Personally my life is fucking great and Lolcow is nothing more then entertainment. In real life I'm not negative but I'm a realist. Most of the comments on lolcow are like that(unless an anon says some dumbshit then they are corrected).

For example let's say a cow wants to be a professional cosplayer. As a realist that's a hard thing to make a profession, but if someone really has the drive for it, then it's possible. However you can't be like most the cows and put little to no effort into the cosplay and expect to get noticed. You can't just not network and want to be a professional cosplayers. So everyone lolcow makes fun of them because they don't even put in the effort. The difference between here in and real life is (depending on what country your from) people won't say shit like that to your face but behind a keyboard people get brave.

Pro Tip: Stop getting offended on lolcow. It's fucking cringey.

It's a yes and no for me OP.

In person I'm nice, I'm chatty and willing to listen to others. Polite and kind.

But I do have my opinions about such things… mental illnesses you say? Nah. However I do find those Zikka babies and that Harley Hooligans mother to be a twat because her kids are basically just vegetables and brainless expenses. I know the Zikka thing most women didn't know and I just feel bad for them having to raise them. At least with maybe someone deaf or blind they could get around more and live.

As for bodies… I do think people on this site can be a bit cunty about the normal body? I don't mean obese. I mean like e.g skinny fat? Most girls here in the UK have weight on or have skinny fat. Not saying it's healthy but it's not the worst to look at. Sometimes I think this site thinks we should all be top notch and amazing babes (most wish we were tho). But thus life gets in the way and laziness. Obesity is just disgusting and the ana-chans who support those fuckers with ED. I feel sorry for neither. Well maybe for anorexics but not the type like Ashley and those who support ED with ED.

Also I think what irks me more is people comparing cows and throwing around "ur jelly" when someone disagrees with them. It's like… oh fuck off.