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No. 69344
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Love them until they die. Thats what a mother is supposed to do. A con is that you probably cant discipline them the way you would do normal kids if they are doing annoying stuff so your anger is cropped up but they probably only do one annoying thing: existing. So I would probably only love them and take care of them. I do understand why others would abort them, but I love my nonexisting children the way white people love their dog: a lot.
Maybe such childeren are just as cool as pugs or french bulldogs… so ugly its cute.
No. 69351
>>69348Honestly this
They are hardly living
No. 69362
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>>69355Exactly. There's already a huge lack of resources in this world, why waste them more? She could be using her resources on her poor healthy child, or she could adopt.
Then again it's her choice. Some people buy flat screen TVs and gold necklaces, she buy 100,000 diapers for children that can never be toilet trained. Her choice and I respect that.
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No. 69371
>>69368found it:
https://archive.is/ibWbonot the full thread before 404, but most of it
the mother is insane. i feel bad for the alive son because his life must suck
No. 69376
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>>69371>“But they’re like any other girls, they like rap music and watch TV, and they have their own personalities,” continued Gwen. “Claire is laidback and goes with the flow, while Lola is feisty and needy. She wants to be cuddled all the time.”that's not possible though, they don't have enough brain matter to have personalities
they don't even have enough brain to function properly, or contract their eyes in response to light appropriately
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>>69373they probably center all their time and attention on the twins, a lot of parents with disabled children do this, it's not a novel concept, you should check it out
google " sibling of disabled child"
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>>69373because your parents pull shitfits like this
>This story, this day, these raw emotions have haunted me for ten months… they have shut me down more than I'd like to admit… broken my heart time and time again. But I need to share this. And I know that we have all grown as a result of having experienced this, no matter how painful it was. And I hope that you can learn from it, too.
>I think part of the reason I have struggled with writing this is because it evokes so much anger and disappointment and intense sadness within my soul. And because it hits so close to home. And because it involves my kids, each of whom are SO important to me ~ such an extension of my own heart. And because it hits me below the belt with my OWN issues, experiences, and triggers in this life.
>The reason it hurts so much is because Cal said the word "retard." No. 69387
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>>69383Because she believes killing these babies (abortion) is ammoral, and that hydrocephalic babies are just as good as any other babies
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No. 69415
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>Hell, a few months after Claire was born, I was driving in a Dillon's parking lot on a cold winter day when I spotted some harmless Knights of Columbus workers wearing vests which read, "HELP RETARDED CHILDREN" on the back and collecting money for their organization. You'd shit your pants if you saw how fast I jerked my car into PARK (delaying several cars behind me and coming toward me), hopped out of it, and jump-straddled some poor guy's ass for wearing such an insulting slogan on the back of his vest, as if HE himself was the one who designed the damn thing with hate in his heart. OMG! I shouted, "I AM THE PARENT OF A QUOTE RETARDED CHILD END QUOTE AND I DO NOT APPRECIATE YOU WEARING SUCH AN OUTDATED, RUDE, INAPPROPRIATE VEST!!! The PROPER terminology is 'special needs' these days!!!!!!!!!!!" Dude stood there speechless then said, "I'll pass that on. Thanks." I stormed off, got in my car, parked it, and bawled my eyes out for my sweet Claire, for her disability, for myself, for my family and how CHANGED our lives would now be forever – whether she lived or died. It was so NEW… the "wound" so fresh. THIS KILLED ME. I will say, the next year I saw these guys out again, and they had on new vests which read, "HELP HANDICAPPED CHILDREN." For some reason, that actually felt BETTER to me. I stayed in my car this time and after much deliberation convinced myself I had indeed WON. Yes, I DO have issues. :)
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No. 69418
>>69404Ikr. I can't snark this. Its so sad. I just feel so bad for that family.
I mean the blog is shit, but imagine being a fly on the wall for one hour in their house.
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>>69415I'm sure that totally happened.
No. 69429
>>69424I don't really "get" mommy blogs tbh. They all have this weird tone…like they're trying SO HARD to show the world how special and happy their family is, when you know they are ordinary people you wouldn't look twice at walking down the street.
I can't wait until the kids who have to endure all the cutesie photoshoots go through their rebellious teenage years. Like, once the kids don't want to make flower crowns, and start making friends outside the house, what are these moms going to blog about?
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>>69429>tin foil hat timeMaybe that's why she wanted these two disabled kids so much. It's all so she can perpetually keep up her mommy blog since they will never grow up.
No. 69461
>>69439"i'm also fat but damn tess holiday is too fat its so deadly :((( xd"
>>69438Thank you for being honest. As for me, I have a disabled sister (she cant function at all) and my mother took care of me just as much as my sister, but she just handled her different.
No. 69475
>>69390It makes me so uncomfortable I can't take it.
Their literally just toys to their parents
Even the way they dress them in stupid costumes… These kids don't even understand what is going on
It really makes me uncomfortable
No. 69477
>>69475Same.
I'll buy their son's inevitable tell-all book, tho.
No. 69498
>>69344>>69483You would discard any chance of a normal life to support an essentially non-sentient child's biological functions for the rest of their life?
You would sacrifice every waking hour? How would you work? How would you take trips or vacations? How would you have the time to make friends, to go to the grocery store, to read a book without thinking about them all of the time? You can't say "I'd bring them everywhere lol" because it's just not feasible.
God forbid you'd be a single parent in that situation too. You could never EVER leave them. Care for disabled children is rarely anywhere above "average" quality, and is frequently far less. They're not fucking puppies. Puppies have personalities, they grow up and can do things by themselves.
No. 69512
>>694831- they would have to be alive for them to be killed
2- how is abortion killing?
No. 69539
>>69483If a child has no way of functioning on it's own, it's a waste to have it. Everyone suffers, including parents and taxpayers when something like
>>69501 this is born.
No. 69543
>>69344>that's what a mother is supposed to doWhy? Who says?
Most human beings are not that compassionate, even to their own children. If I had a child like that, I'd abandon it. Then again, I would get genetics screenings first to make sure that shit won't happen in the first place.
No. 69551
>>69543>Most human beings are not that compassionateI know that. But thanks for confirming it again. Gives me more reasons to be a misanthropist. And I said its what we're supposed to, not what most "people" would do. Lets say you have a healthy child but she gets a severe accident and is basically a vegetable would you abandon her too?
Keep in mind the mother instinct is stronger than the edgy mindset you have (assuming you dont have children)
No. 69554
>>69551Actually lots of people 'abandon' their vegetable child. It's called turning off life support and allowing your child to become an organ donor for children with a chance.
Why do you insist vegetables are the same as people? They're demonstrably not, and you mamby pamby attempt at guilting people over 'morality' isn't helping. It's gracious enough that society allows them to keep these tax and hospital equipment leeches. Back in the day they'd be left on the side of a mountain.
No. 69566
>>69564>.I really don't care about pro choice/life debate anymore.you mean THE pro choice/life debate
see people like you can't even defend their opinions, not to mention type properly
No. 69568
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>>69567Does this mean that realdoll baby dolls are babies too? I mean technically they'r more human and alive than these babies, since they can be programmed to do stuff.
No. 69577
>>69569I just find it sad that 1 out of every 50 children born in Brazil today are those Zika zombies.
So many athletes are going to boycott the Olympics this year
No. 69594
>>69584You are not only doing that. You are reposting old forced memes posted by edgy neckbeards.
Each useless thread is literally a waste of money and time for us and admin-sama.
Live life instead of focusing on children or a mother who is trying her best, more than your mother ever did. Cant blame her though she had to raise an insecure whore like you. I feel so bad for her, hope she never finds out what you are writing on the internet I wouldnt want her to get a heart attack. Don't like her kids? Go seek therapy then. You have 0 rights to call someone useless and a waste of space while you are looking for a place to laugh at people who are better than you so you can boost confidence and feel better about yourself, loose hairy warty cunthole.
If you really care about resources, go protest against war or something more useful as they actually have wasted our resources and have caused more damage than these kids ever did. YOU have caused more damage than these kids did.
Have a good day!
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>>69579>no one wants to reproduct with you.You mean reproduce, see this is why we need to abort retards.
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>>69594>Each useless thread is literally a waste of money and time for us and admin-sama.It's not a waste? I've gotten lots of use out of these threads ranging from tips on fashion and healthy living to life advice. Heck even being entertained is something.
These vegetables can't even get entertained. It's her right to choose to have them, but I don't think we're edgy for wondering WHY she would want to have them.
No. 69602
>>69594Have some empathy anon- read this. It's from someone with an autistic son
"I cant help it, my life is constantly terrible. I spend as much time as work as possible. The worst part is that I am supposed to pretend that I am happy about it. When we get together with the other parents and everyone is pretending their kids are as normal as anyone else. They are not. All of us secretly wish they were never born.
I would never dare tell my wife this. She is in total denial. Every time he screams or has a breakdown I just wish he would die. I believe that violence is a lot more common than you think. but my wife and I always control ourselves. I can't stand it though. Why has god done this to me, and why instead of having support are you not supposed to say this. It is terrible, and I did not deserve it yet I am supposed to pretend life is just great."
No. 69614
>>69376I think the parents project their desired personalities onto the children. Like "This is how they'd be if they were normal". That's actually rather sad. No wonder the mother isn't wired too tightly.
I feel bad for Cal because he's probably not getting the attention he really needs from his mother.
It's not very nice to call your sisters retarded. But these aren't high functioning retarded children. They are vegetables that can't be hurt by words. The mother forced her son into a breakdown for 30 minutes over this?
>Scott and I had a VERY loooooooooong talk about the whole ordeal, what Cal's punishment should be, and why our son would EVER do such a thing. We decided that his punishment would be this: He would have to call each of the other three children involved, apologize for using the word "retard" and explain to them why it is wrong and why no one should ever say it again. Secondly, he would write Scott & me a letter about his own thoughts, feelings and what he had learned – about his sisters, using that word, why it's inappropriate, why he won't do it again, how sorry he is, etc. It needed to be at least one notebook page in length. If this kid shoots up his school one day I wouldn't even be surprised. He must be so psychologically damaged by his crazy parents.
No. 69616
>>69591I don't know, but WHO has declared it an epidemic, like Ebola in West Africa last year. Not only is Zika mosquito borne, it's also sexually transmitted. It remains unsafe to conceive babies for a few months after you recover from the Zika, and most people never know they've been infected due to flu-like symptoms
Hope Solo says she's sitting out this year because she's hoping to have kids. The US state department has issued a travel warning for all pregnant women or women attempting to conceive. The UN begged all tropical countries to make abortion legal for medical defects
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>>69612Another story to force some empathy on you
"I'm not a parent, but my second cousin (much older, in his 60's) and his wife have 4 daughters.
Let's call the oldest K. K was born with very severe down syndrome, diabetes and as a celiac. They said she had absolutely no chance of living past 5 years old.
The father is a retired surgeon and the mother was a nurse. She gave up her job at 24, when K was born. She raised 3 other daughters, of which 1 was diabetic as well (she was also a huge problem child. Out of control, really). She gave up her life when K was born. She expected to be back at work within 10 years.
K is 43 this year and still requires full time care. She works at a factory that is specifically for down syndrome people. She has to have her blood tested several times a day, which means that one of her parents has to drive for 30 minutes to check it, then 45 minutes home. She is dropped off and picked up by her parents every day she works. They have to measure every meal she eats with a measuring jug to check ensure she maintains a healthy diet and get up three times a night to check her blood.
As is usual with down syndrome patients, the older she has gotten, the more difficult she is to deal with.
I sat with her mother one night drinking wine, talking to her about it. After a few glasses, she broke down. She never got a chance to live her own life because of K. Not in their wildest dreams did they expect her to live as long as she had.
The mother is a wonderful, kind woman. I've never seen someone with so much love.
She looked at me and said "I wish she'd just die already."
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>>69614that poor kid. Every birthday, christmas, easter, family event he has to put up with them. Not moving, jerking sporadically, releasing their bowels and their mother's insanity, literal INSANITY in thinking that one of her kids likes rap music, or the other one just smiled. They physically are unable to be human.
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>>69626for their sake I just hope they don't have enough braincells smeared in there to even be aware of their existence. Because their existence is a nightmare.
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>>69631That's very noble of you. Not wanting to bring more suffering into the world. Many people with severe mental and physical disabilities suffer. There are only a few exceptions to the rule, while a vast majority are made to suffer because they are so "cute" and look so "funny" and "are human too!". Bah. Absolutely disgusting.
No. 69636
>>69498>>69344Several years ago in nursing school, I volunteered at the Infectious Disease department of a pediatrics hospital. There was a mother there whose daughter was severely mentally and physically retarded; at the age of 7 she was only at the level of a paralyzed toddler with poor prognosis for the future. Apparently she was a semi-perennial patient due to recurrent respiratory and ear infections.
When the doctor asked at the end of the interview if the mother had anything she wanted to tell us (students), she said that if she could go back in time and tell the doctors not to resucitate her baby. She said that she loved her daughter very much (and would to the very end), but the longer she saw her child suffer in such an existence, the more the mother realised that her decision had been unfair to the child.
I will never forget this encounter, because it finally made me realise what a true mother's love should be.
No. 69641
>>69622I feel so bad for mothers in these situations. Mothers, much more than fathers are expected to accept their children and love them unconditionally, but when you are given a child with a severe handicap, how do you cope?
People seriously need to do genetic screenings more often.
No. 69647
>>69591not everyone with that disorder is a vegetable, many of them are low-functioning but can still talk/express themselves in some way.
pepper from american horror story had microcephaly, for example.
these girls have a million other issues in addition to the microcephaly.
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I kind of discussed it with my s/o already and we decided to abort if the child will have a probability of ending up as low functioning.
but I am scared my 'motherly love' would make me attached to it and id refuse to abort it, so thats that.
No. 69655
>>69652But at the end of that motherly love there also has to be some wish and hope that the child will form their own life and at least function on its own when you and your s/o is gone some day, right?
It seems a bit irresponsible to me to bring a person into the world whose fate depends on the kindness of strangers after your gone.
No. 69663
>>69439But the thing is, even if a kid could function I feel like a lot of parents would not want it unless it is going to be perfectly healthy or normal. That means no disabilities, physical or mental.
As I've said, I know my mother would have aborted me if she'd had the foresight. I can function in society and I provide for myself but she DESPISES having an autistic kid. And a lot of people are that way. I think that's why I feel so bad about the idea of letting someone abort if their kid is going to be disabled. It would stop a lot of potentially high functioning people from entering the world.
No. 69682
I just feel… nothing when I read all of what's been posted so far. Not even any emotion what so ever.
>>69652>>69677It's unlikely that I want a kid but for that one chance that I do, I would not hesitate to abort it. I already have arthritis and a shitty immune system so I don't want my child to suffer the same way or worse.
No. 69684
>>69663I mean, it honestly depends on how autistic/disabled the child would become. Even high functionin autistic children can be nightmares to deal with
even though I'm sure you're lovely.
there's also the risk of giving birth to a high functionin autistic person who's literally worse than hitler. It's a gamble.
No. 69685
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>There are people who actually disagree with eugenics and think it's "immoral"
No. 69689
>>69683See the fact that they will be picked on, marginalized and seen as lesser by so many people is why I would go for an abortion if my amnio showed downs.
If I didn't know and had a downs kid id keep custody and love the fuck out of it, because I don't think downs is such a big deal and people with it are frequently enormously wonderful people.
I mostly don't wanna bring a kid into the world that I know is gonna have significant challenges beyond the typically expected ones we all have. Ill raise my kids to stand up for the disabled kid on the playground but I don't wanna bring that disabled kid into the world knowing they'll likely need to be stood up for forever.
No. 69728
>>69652If you've already discussed this with your SO and know his opinion, you should be prepared for him to bounce if you decide to keep the unhealthy child. You may resent him if you abort and really wanted to have the damaged goods. Hopefully you'll never have to make this decision.
>>69663There's no test for autism yet, right? Do you part to not support eugenics by refusing to help with genetic studies of autism if tgat makes you feel better.
I know where you're coming from in a strict morality standpoint, but just take comfort in the fact that you can make personal decisions for yourself and others can make personal decisions for themselves. Some people aren't equipped to be loving, supportive parents of disabled children. It's good for those who know their personal limitations to not bite off more than they can chew.
>>69683You acknowledge that there's a chance the child could be low functioning, which means they would probably be unable to support themselves as adults. We all have finite resources. Why choose a child with the deck stacked against them when someone can try again for a child with better chances of being successful at life?
No. 69735
>>69683they have heart issues and other problems
and not all are functional and nice like you mentioned, severity varies
No. 69765
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In the end, you're basically caring for an expensive ugly baby doll. How is this not the same as just playing 'make believe' with their feelings, likes, and wants?
>>69677Fucking this. Who would want to live such a shitty life? If my life were to end up really bad at the time my mom got preggo, I wouldn't mind at all if my mom had the foresight to realize that nobody should have to live a life where they have less because of certain circumstances. People like this woman want to seem like saviors for not aborting their kids, but it's pretty fucking selfish to keep up this charade.
No. 69767
>>69728I'd rather take part in eugenics personally.
The entire plant is living in limited resources. It seems unreasonable to use them on people unable to live a full life.
When your horse breaks its legs, you shoot it.
When your dog is so old and arthritic its entire life hurts, you put it down.
If an unborn mass of cells is determined to be defective, why not abort? There's low chances of quality or quantity of life with many of the things tested for. Its kinder even than euthanasia. The thing is never even alive to begin with.
No. 69798
>>69771it says it on her blog somewhere.
the first one was was the one that didn't show any conditions, the second one did on their first scan
No. 69865
>>69344I would dispose of them the way white people dispose of their dog if it's suffering and spitting bubbles on the floor. You sound like a self important sadistic cunt to me. It's not about loving your children, it's about the status and ass pats you get from society for taking care of a miserable retard. Why do you think this cunt makes these videos? She thrives on the attention. Existing must be a living hell for those kids, especially with all the conditions listed in
>>69338If she loved her kids, she would have got an abortion, but nope. She's going to let them live their meaningless, uneventful lives of pain and torment. Gotta love that government money and Christfag donations.
No. 69869
>>69865Wait, then what do black people do with a suffering dog?
Are you implying that black people just let animals suffer? Jfc racist-chan, calm down. I'm sure euthanasia of suffering dying animals isn't just a white thing.
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>>69859Luckily I don't think they're concious enough to be miserable.
No. 69883
>>69867So true. People who aren't aware of just how challenging REAL autism is strike me as really uninformed. I want to take them to the home of an autistic child, or even adult, just for a day.
Autism is on a spectrum, so it can be normal and fine like aspergers or chrischan, the high functioning kind, but low functioning is its own circle of hell for both the parents and the child. The child being literally trapped in their mind, often accompanied by seizures and extreme fits of unexplained anger. Repetitions and routines that manage their lives. Inability to empathise, feel, recognise faces, recognise emotions. Some of these kids will never even speak.
No. 69887
I've got four cousins via two different aunts with autism and they're on the low functions end of the spectrum.
Their lives suck.
K's kids: Two of them had a feeding tube for years and one now has a jejunal tube. None are verbal, and all three require lifelong high levels of care. She's never gonna hear 'I love you mum' 'thanks mum' 'I got a job' 'I'm getting married' none of it. They just watch Disney DVDs and gesture and grunt.
R's kid: non verbal, never toulet trained, only eats fried chicken, only watches hi-5 DVDs, has destroyed his room (holes in walls, paint peeled off, windows smashed, shelves ripped down, wardrobes ripped out, doors broken)
He'd have fits of screaming and thrashing around so violently you couldn't go near him and by the age of 8 he could overpower his mum easily. They had to lock him in his bedroom with bolts on the outside of his door, or he would get up through the night and do bizarre shit like paint the walls with his shit or piss on the couch. Sometimes he would just start pushing people. He ended up in a care home.
No. 69923
>>69918sage for OT, but this applies to any handicapped family member, tbh.
i had a stint at a social services non-profit (it sucked ass) where i was handed a case involving a mentally ill woman trying to contact her kids. it hurt me to call them up to bug them about their mom, because i knew that she had always been toxic to them and that they were just trying their damned best to cut ties and finally live decent lives. i don't blame them one bit. i wish i could have told them that.
No. 69932
I really doubt I could raise a severely disabled child. Something like ADHD or stuff I could work with, but kids like this that require constant attention, medical help, can never live a normal, conscious life etc., I just couldn't do it. It wouldn't be fair to the "healthy" other child or the whole family OR the sick child to live a life completely revolving around vain attempts to try and make it work. More power to the people who want to live a life like this
>>69887 but I just couldn't handle it.