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No. 2561453
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No. 2561461
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Green apple is the worst candy flavor and lime is the best.
No. 2561466
My unpopular opinion: I don't care when shrimp aren't de-veined. I think it's cringe when people act disgusted by the vein. It reminds me of picky eaters.
>>2561461I don't like when you think you're biting into something lime flavored but it turns out to be green apple flavored. Green should always be citrus. Red should always be cherry and never strawberry.
No. 2561476
>>2561461The only green apple flavor I can remember is green apple Jolly Ranchers which were breddy gud nonna idk what you're on about.
Citrus is a dime a dozen.
No. 2561489
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I don't understand why people are so against the idea of prostitution. Now, to be clear, there are lots of things wrong with the actual practice of prostitution, like it's dangerous, or it oppresses economically disadvantaged and vulnerable women, etc. But none of those are essential to the principle of prostitution. I'm talking about the very basic idea of buying and selling sex. I don't see why people are against it.
The only real argument I find against prostitution, is that sex itself is wrong. If premarital or extramarital sex is wrong, it's obvious why prostitution is wrong. But if you think premarital sex can be okay, then you should think prostitution can be okay too.
No. 2561494
>>2561489Nonny i dont believe in premarital sex. I dont believe in marriage and i think its a scam. So to me, prostitution is bad because you shouldnt be able to buy something that should be earned through human decency and being an acceptable mate. That premarital bullshit doesnt even compare to the misogyny and degenerecy of prostitution.
Your unpopular opinion is gross. But you are entitlted to it.
My unpopular opinion is that puppies are actually the worst stage of a dogs life and they are way more enjoyable as slight senior dogs. And that is why i dont own dogs.
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I want two internets. One internet is the male internet. The main internet is the female internet. Moids get shafted to their shitty internet full of making deepfakes of each other and goading each other into suicide. Female internet can be somewhere I can chill out and relax.
No. 2561508
>>2561500>you have no business coercing them into doing it via monetary compensationIf I offered you a million dollars to eat a cockroach, is it coercion? You don't want to eat it for free, but you want to eat it for money. I'm not making you eat the cockroach.
Similarly:
>If you have sex with someone who does not want to have sex with you, that's wrong.That someone doesn't want to have sex for free, but does want to have sex for money.
Remember, this is a hypothetical prostitute who isn't in need of money.
No. 2561515
>>2561508The most vulnerable and primal act between two humans is not remotely comparable to eating a cockroach. A cockroach doesn’t have a face, won’t give me any diseases, can’t rape me, can’t overpower or violate me in any way.
>hypothetical prostituteThat’s the thing. Prostitution doesn’t exist in a vacuum. Sex doesn’t exist in a vacuum. We don’t even know what a world would look like where “healthy” prostitution exists because men love rape. Why is she prostituting herself if she doesn’t need money? The only men who buy sex are power tripping rapists, uglies, and betas. No sane, self-loving woman would ever want to have sex with that. What amount of money would make you say yes to being humped by a fat ugly disease ridden 60 year old man? If prostitution isn’t so bad then why don’t more men go into the sex industry?
No. 2561519
>>2561515Nta but you can absolutely get diseases from cockroaches
nonnie.
No. 2561521
>>2561515>won’t give me any diseases, can’t rape me, can’t overpower or violate me in any wayYou don't understand. I'm not talking about real prostitution. I'm talking about an ideal prostitution, where it's just normal sex in exchange for money.
>Prostitution doesn’t exist in a vacuum. Sex doesn’t exist in a vacuum. I know it doesn't. I'm not talking about prostitution in real life. I'm talking about the PRINCIPLE of prostitution.
No. 2561531
>>2561526I just mean sex that has nothing bad to it. No STDs, no unwanted pregnancies, everyone's consenting, everyone enjoys it.
>inb4 that's not normalWhat I really meant was sex that's not bad.
No. 2561551
>>2561548Yes. She enjoyed getting paid, so she enjoyed it somewhat.
Now, do you agree with what she does?
No. 2561569
>>2561558So you believe that if a man and a woman enter into a sexual relationship, the man should not be allowed to break up with the woman and cause her to suffer.
This is why it's good to wait until marriage. If you have sex before marriage, he can dump you very easily and cause you to suffer. And since most bf/gf relationships end, that is the likely outcome. If you wait until marriage, then he cannot break up with you easily, so harmful moids will not try to pump and dump you.
No. 2561581
>>2561569Nta but yes. Too many moids use the threats of breaking up to manipulate or break up just because they enjoy getting off on the woman being sad. The scrote shouldn't be hung per se but the reason for the break up needs to go through court and be approved similar to an eviction
>This is why it's good to wait until marriage.Lol
This has been tried throughout history and failed. All it accomplishes is unmarried people trying weird/stupid sex tactics (like soaking or anal) and then if it turns out the couple is sexually incompatible the marriage fails. Also couples who do this end up rushing into marriage to have sex and then the woman is stuck paying all the divorce fees, the time and money it takes to get her own place, etc as if the fee from marriage wasn't already enough. Also if a woman is injured the man can make medical decisions and all kinds of fucked up shit towards her. Moids shouldn't be able to break up with women so easily but forcing women into marriage just to have sex has never been proven to ever been a good thing in history
No. 2561624
>>2561622>if I end up not liking himWhy have sex with a moid you're not sure you like? That's just asking for trouble.
>I'd rather just leave freelyIf you give a moid your virginity, that also makes it hard to leave freely. Better to wait, to make sure you don't end up hating him.
No. 2561625
>>2561508Sex is not a simple physical act that can be compared to anything else. Unwanted sex is rape, unwanted cockroaches are just unwanted cockroaches. A prostitute wants money, not sex, so paying her for sex is still rape. If you don't want to be a rapist, hand the money over instead of exchanging it for sex. The only exceptions to this would be like, a woman who has a fetish for being a prostitute and is aroused by being paid, or is particularly into a John and would've fucked him for free, and those are silly scenarios.
You need to stop framing this as a problem of what women will and won't allow. There are a million reasons a woman might prostitute herself, might convince herself she's happy with it, might genuinely be happy with it. It's irrelevant. The problem is a matter of what sex buyers do - which is pay to have sex with a woman who he KNOWS would not fuck him otherwise. That's a man who is paying for the opportunity to rape a woman, for her silence afterwards, for a lack of legal recourse against him.
No. 2561629
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>>2561625So is this rape? Because the wife doesn't want to give the guy a blowjob for free, but will do it for compensation.
I say it's not rape. Likewise, a woman can have sex for money without it being rape.
No. 2561633
>>2561629I mean, if that man can tell his wife doesn't want to have sex with him but is just reluctantly putting up with it because it's the only way to get him to do chores, then yeah. It's not legally rape but it's rape in spirit.
It's seriously not that complex, if someone doesn't enthusiastically want to have sex with you, then why would you have sex with them? Only a rapist would want to do that. I would never fuck a guy who didn't want to fuck me, I know it's impossible for men to comprehend this but that's because most of them are perfectly happy to rape women.
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>>2561633>if someone doesn't enthusiastically want to have sex with you, then why would you have sex with them?To be honest, the woman looks very enthusiastic with this exchange.
No. 2561643
>>2561631I mean sure i get that for many is a memorable experience but i've also heard many say they didn't care for it much.
>They'll always remember the first woman they've had sex with and will compare you to her.Maybe it's because i'm not male-centered like the majority of your argument but i don't really care what moids think just what i can get out of him
No. 2561649
>>2561638Daddy is indeed a rapist if he wears his poor suffering wife down to the point she participates in sex acts she doesn't want to just to get a break from doing everything. Men nagging, cajoling, and manipulating women to get sex is
abusive rapist behaviour. It's just so insanely common and normalized that people aren't ready to accept it as rape, they want to save the word 'rape' for violent back alley stranger danger. I don't think it necessarily is rape in a legal sense, but in an emotional sense and in terms of how I would pass judgement on the man, it's rape.
>>2561642She looks unhinged and dead behind the eyes, you can't for a minute think that's a photo of her being sexually aroused at the thought of giving that pathetic manchild a BJ.
No. 2561665
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>>2561660What about this.
>I would have sex with you for free. You're willing to pay me $100 to have sex with me. I take the $100 and have sex with you.Is this wrong?
No. 2561676
>>2561665Nonsensical scenario that doesn't play out in real life, most of the time it looks like
>>2561660. Even in your utopia where prostitution is somehow ethical, why would you offer them money? Why bring money into this?
No. 2561677
>>2561672you would pay to get nsa or exact sex acts and to dictate the terms, it would be theoretically consensual but not mutually dictated
>>2561674it's exploitation
No. 2561684
>>2561672Sure anon, if a woman really wanted to fuck a guy but insisted that he pay her for it, and he somehow knew she really wanted to fuck him despite the request for money, but was willing to pay for it regardless, then it's not particularly rapey. It's just not something that really happens.
The only scenario I could think of where it might, is if a universally desirable/attractive man (say a celebrity) pays prostitutes for discretion and convenience despite the fact they'd happily have sex with him for free. But of course, the assurance of secrecy just means he can get away with being
abusive, violent or degrading, so then we circle back to the practical issues with prostitution rather than the theoretical ethics of it.
No. 2561685
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>>2561676>>2561677>>2561680>>2561682Suppose you had five sexy men who want to have sex with you, and you wanted to have sex with all of them. But you could only pick one to have sex with. So you say, "I'll have sex with the one who'll give me the most money!"
Is that wrong?
No. 2561690
>>2561685Are they all offering money or just one of them?
Is it just a one night stand or are you getting into a relationship with them?
Either way… why bring money into this?
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>>2561690The offers are:
>$10, $100, $1000, $10000, $100000Who do you pick?
>why bring money into this?picrel
No. 2561716
>>2561707Thank you so much
nonnie I will invite you to our wedding (I propose after our first night and he cries because he never thought he was worthy of marriage until I asked him)
No. 2561718
>>2561713I don't think you understand how women, sex, relationships, or human interaction work.
>>2561716You're the most radiant bride I've ever seen nonnerella. I look forward to many happy years between you two!
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>>2561718It's you who doesn't understand human natire.
No. 2561724
>>2561721Hush now, we're being happy for
nonny and her gigolo LADS husbando right now.
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>>2561721more like human neighture amirite??
No. 2561730
>>2561721this is a thought experiment and it's nonsense. Thirst is prioritised over hunger because you can last longer hungry than you can thirsty. Sometimes people get their thirst signals confused for hunger.
Are you personally attracted to men or other people, do you know what sexual attraction feels like?
No. 2561739
>>2561730You've never been paralyzed with indecision before?
>>2561733But which one first?
No. 2561759
>>2561757And specifically for that it opens the door to abus , human trafficking, exploitation. Prostitution is nothing but paid rape.
The very fact that males prostitutes are so few and are mainly used by other scrotes is the writing on the wall of how big of a sham this industry is, it’s nothing but a factory for the abuse of women.
No. 2561762
>>2561508Eating a cockroach isn’t the same. If I offered you a million to torture you would be the right analogy here.
If I wanted to waterboard you, use pins on you, beat you up, do sleep deprivation would you want it? No.
No. 2561769
>>2561757>Placing money on something that is supposed to be mutual just makes it unbalanced and coerced.Yeah, so it's no different than getting pumped and dumped.
>>2561762If getting tortured for five minutes will earn me a million dollars, I'd do it.
>>2561765It's called philosophy.
>>2561767>It's a safer option if you have a lower standard for your marriage than a relationship. That doesn't make any sense. A marriage has higher standards.
No. 2561773
>>2561769No one will admit it but people are more willing to accept hiccups later on in a marriage than a relationship. You catch your bf watching porn? Easy, get your stuff and go. You catch your husband of 10 years watching porn. Find a divorce lawyer, court fees, family issues if children are involved, living arrangements, etc. most people don't want to do all that so will just accept bad behavior from men because of how difficult it is to leave
>But but just marry a man who won'tNever ever 100% guarantee. Knowing him for 2 years isn't guaranteed to know who he truly is, knowing him for 10 or even 20 years isn't guaranteed he won't change or anything. We need women to be prepared
in case these situations happened rather than just insisting you can just "choose harder" and men will never ever conceal their flaws for years
No. 2561781
>>2561775This is exactly like all the women in my family, their husbands will be lazy, porn addicts, etc but they'll just look the other way and tell everyone how happily married they are and that they totally choose the right one
I always wonder what would happen if divorce wasn't so expensive, single motherhood wasn't so looked down upon, etc
No. 2561789
>>2561785>Your husband was watching porn? Well you should've ~infleunced~ him not tooHoly
victim blaming Batman. Sure not only make it harder for women to leave but also make it seem like the actions of moids are all their fault for "influencing"
No. 2561790
>>2561643Is it weird that I don't remember much about losing my virginity? Like I have a vague recollection (and it was a good, non-traumatic experience) but it wasn't some life-changing event and I don't even have a particularly vivid memory of it. I also constantly forget my first kiss and have to think really hard to remember who even was the first person I kissed kek (well, the first person I kissed for real. My first kiss was some boy in kindergarten I kissed on a dare on the bus and I actually remember that but it was a peck).
>>2561649I agree with this. And this
>>2561660>>2561662I don't agree that housewifes are prostitutes, because in most normal marriage money is pooled and does not belong to a specific person. In a two-income household if the husband suddenly lost his job and the wife picked up the slack for a while it wouldn't be prostitution either. I think some housewives are essentially engaging in prostitution, because many trad relationships are transactional, but that doesn't necessarily have to be the case. House work is also work and work many people would pay someone to do, so splitting responsibilities in a household can make financial sense and the money should be seen as equally both people's money. This only works in a healthy relationship though where there isn't a 'my money, your money' attitude. Unfortunately many relationships are not healthy/equal though so many housewives do essentially end up being prostitutes. But there are also housewives who don't have sex at all with their husbands, so that's something to consider.
No. 2561801
>>2561782Forced roommates like college roommates in dorms are actually a different situation, I'm kind of against dorms. I only support roommate situations where you can choose the roommate, and break the lease (ideally, I know in practice it's difficult sometimes) if things aren't working out. But someone can bully you in situations where you aren't living together too, like a boss, work colleague, schoolmate, family member, etc. So I don't see how saving a ton of money is the one situation where bullying would be the worst.
>>2561784Wait what is the situation of a landlord picking your roommates? That's not how roommate situations work where I live, you find roommates yourself. Landlords can't pick roommates for you, that would require a separate lease for each room of an apartment which I think is illegal unless it's marketed as a dorm. I am against dorms.
>It is hard to find all-female housing. Maybe this is a geographical thing. I have known probably literally hundreds of women who lived in all-female housing. If it's actually impossible where you live then I think it's reasonable not to want mixed-sex roommate situations.
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how do you even begin to explain these stats if women aren't actively dating the same/older males?
No. 2561829
>>2561808Why would you live with boomers and gen X? Most roommate situations for young people come about because they are in college or post-college and are low on money, and typically such people find other people their same age (and of their own sex, in most situations) to share the financial burden with. I'm a younger millennial and the stealing/accusing of stealing situation happened to like two people I knew once, out of hundreds of people I knew who had roommates for many years.
>as roommates are being normalized regardless of class They're not though, that was the whole point of my unpopular opinion. Roommates are being de-normalized with the younger generation that's in their 20s now. Roommates were the absolute default norm for Gen X and Millennials, but roommate situations are increasingly being treated as some weird out-there thing. When I see discussions of frugal finances or just of how expensive life is, I often see people talking about the cost of a single-bedroom apartment for one person, and how prohibitive it is. When I was in my early to mid twenties absolutely no one except people with very wealthy families ever considered getting a one-bedroom apartment for themselves.
>>2561818I'm against it for the reason stated in the post I was responding to. I don't think a landlord should have control over who you live with or should be able to spring moids on you last-minute or whatever other weird situations where you don't know who you're going to be living with. It seems exploitative and dangerous to sign and be bound to a lease with no knowledge or control over who you will be living with. I don't think it should be illegal I guess but I'd understand why people would avoid that situation as it seems non-ideal to me, however a situation where you know who you'll be living with in advance and can meet/talk, establish ground rules etc. beforehand seems much better.
No. 2561836
>>2561829Definitely not even close to my roommate search. Maybe if you live near a college, but if you don't nearly all roommate searches are older people.
I've definitely seen an increase of people I would consider middle class though seek roommates, housing simply isn't matching wages, while I wouldn't consider them lower income they just can't keep up with the housing market
No. 2561848
>>2561834A smartphone costs like $150-200 though, whereas not living with roommates will almost double your cost of rent or force you to stay living with your parents though. Huge difference. And people have only come to expect living alone by default within the last 10 or so years. There was no prior time where this was a default expectation.
>>2561836If the only people you ever find searching for roommates are people 65+ years old then it seems like this is specifically due to zoomers being averse to roommates. This was never the norm in the past, unless you are one of the only young people living in a retirement village. Just goes to show that young people being averse to living with roommates ends up harming other young people.
No. 2561854
>>2561851Not sure what community college has to do with it but living out of a car seems significantly worse (and, I'm pretty sure, way more rare - I've never met anyone who lives in a vehicle) than just living in an apartment or house with one or multiple other people.
Also regarding 'roommate searches' I forgot to say in my last post that the most common way to find roommates was to live with people you know. Of course sometimes that didn't work out but most roommate situations I knew of were people who knew each other beforehand and got a bigger place together to split cost. I'm not sure why that would suddenly become rare especially as housing costs have gone up compared to income.
No. 2561861
>>2561856AYRT and this is the part that bothers me the most. It's one thing to just have a better alternative or be from a rich family and decide to live by yourself but I keep hearing more and more people who aren't even in the place financially to live alone expressing sentiments like 'it's below me to live with other people' or 'it would be embarrassing' or 'it's just too big an ask for me to have to coexist with others' while they can't afford to do otherwise and bankrupt themselves, e-beg, emotionally blackmail family members, just refuse to pay rent and wait for eviction, etc. I guess I'm slightly too old for the cutoff of when this attitude started because it was always seen as extremely normal and not embarrassing in my age cohort to have roommates - in fact it was usually viewed positively, as something fun and a normal stepping stone to adulthood, to the point I knew plenty of people who had the finances to live alone but chose to live with roommates instead - but suddenly I see so much rhetoric about how it's degrading or embarrassing or impossible somehow.
>>2561858It doesn't have to be a deep friendship though and you don't need to share a deep bond to coexist in a roommate situation. It could just be a classmate or acquaintance and you set down ground rules beforehand that will minimize conflict. Most people have survived many years of living with parents, who in many cases can be demanding, frustrating to live with or even
abusive, so living with a classmate or casual friend where you've laid down ground rules should at least be easier or similarly easy to living with parents.
No. 2561865
>>2561832I think it's this too. Stats consistently show that the vast majority of relationships are age-matched within 2 years, and most of the remainder are within a 4-5 year difference, so the huge discrepancy between the 63% and 34% in 18-29 can't be explained by age gap relationships. I'm almost certain it's explained by moids claiming they're not in a relationship while their gfs probably consider themselves in a relationship. Moids are sneaky that way.
The age gap hypothesis also doesn't make sense for the 18-29 bracket because there's a lot more men in the 30-49 bracket who say they're single too. So if this was due to age gaps you would have to believe that half of under-30 women were dating moids 50+ which is just not realistic at all.
No. 2561881
>>2561880First AYRT and I'm saying the nonna in this post
>>2561838 was saying you shouldn't accept moid 'fuck-ups' (implying not just 'slight errors') and that not being married makes it easier to leave a moid who mistreats you, which is true. Being married makes it much harder to leave a moid.
No. 2561895
>>2561889if true the zoomer f / milllenial m could be sugar babying or OF. Zoomer girls seem to love sugar baby coquette shit.
>>2561890older in the meme = gen X, I think.
No. 2561897
>>2561895Gen X moids dating zoomer women is disappearingly rare kek. That's like 45+yo scrotes dating women in their 20s.
Zoomer girls dating millennial moids are probably not, for the most part, sugar babies, since millennial moids are pretty poor on average. Some zoomer women date millennial moids (especially older zoomer + younger millennial) because they can be close in age, and relationships with 4-6 year age gaps are not ultra-uncommon, and moids in their early to mid thirties can still be relatively attractive, but most of these are just regular relationships. My millennial moid friend (32yo) is about to marry a zoomer woman who is 28-29yo, that is probably where most of the zoomer woman + millennial moid relationships are playing out, with 2-4 year age differences.
No. 2561923
I know people here want to hate on porn, but what actually irks me is how nearly all of it is targeted for males, is so plentiful, well organized, curated and high quality, with every niche endlessly filled to the brim by countless pick-mes and artists, with all sorts of media covered, from games to music videos passing by ASMR/roleplays, even AI slop is all male-gazey by default, but when you're looking for anything close to appealing for women, best you can do is dig for scraps in a haystack
it's like the assumption about women who watch porn is that they have to basically be watching themselves get degraded on screen
No. 2561948
>>2561887Not true. People tend to date people their age. Even the women I know who are dating older are at most dating five years older. I’m 22 by the way.
I feel like you really have to be mentally ill to date a 35 year old grandpa when you are that young.
No. 2561979
>>2561975At most he would find me reading fanfictions from time to time , but I’m not embarrassed by that kek.
I also feel like women are mostly embarrassed, it’s not like they have much to hide, maybe it’s chats with husbandos . But when a scrote is territorial about his phone he is fishy, he’s 100% cheating.
No. 2562005
>>2561993You're so right. I noticed this with shows in general. Every show created from 2010 onwards is absolute trash and has no substance at all. It's all lul ruhndom shit. The few ok-ish ones are adaptations of old running media out there rather than original, but even then, the new trends of lazy ugly animation, CGI, sets, actors, costumes, set design, directing, and filmography are all so butt ugly and unwatchable. You can literally see the green screens and the SFX, you can tell it's fake and it takes you out of the immersion. Everything is so lazy and unfinished for some reason. Music wise, weren't there studies about how music quality did dip in the past 20 years or something?
No. 2562227
Tate McRae isn’t really a good dancer. Even kpop idols from f list groups dance better than her.
No. 2562266
>>2562020The only polycule I knew personally fell apart when a baby was conceived. One of the women in it was unable to conceive. She'd kinda come to terms with it and chose the poly life to fill the void with an alternative sense of family. New woman to enter the polyfuck gets pregnant by happy accident, fast. The woman who couldn't have kids admitted herself to hospital feeling suicidal and they basically excommunicated her while she was stuck in the hospital, threw all her stuff away. Bu-bye founding member of the poly group. Others found out and got pissed.
I just hope the 'couple' didn't end up assembling another polycule to surround that baby with. Chances are they did. Idk how you stop babies happening when these people aren't known for being great at making life decisions. And are impulsive.
No. 2562281
>>2562236You’re close to getting it but not quite there. It’s more like “let’s make it insanely difficult to escape the poverty trap to incentivize young people to sell their bodies for the delusion of freedom (military for boys, sex trade for girls)”
Were it not for economic factors, the overwhelming majority of people wouldn’t go into either of those situations and that’s not an accident.
No. 2562347
>>2562339If
I ever got to the point in life where my partner thought this was necessary to make me do chores, I'd kill myself out of shame. How moids can live with themselves is beyond me.
No. 2562551
>>2562526I used to think of pick-mes as a specific type of woman, that exaggeratedly wants male validation and attention while putting other women down. To me, pick-meism is done with the intention of being a pick-me, while other women don't have the intention of looking after male's validation while putting other women down. I'm not sure, i have the feeling that calling common women pick mes is just a way of putting other women down just because you think by being a radfem you have more dignity.
>>2562533Not bad faith exactly, but it does seem very strange when you write what she believes. I think that the word pick me diminishes women that don't know that they are living in misoginy and somehow puts the fault on them, as pick mes are often girls that intentionally look after male validation. Most women are just living their lifes normally, while i do agree that misogyny is ingrained in every part of our lives, i don't agree with the usage of that word to describe common, ignorant women.
No. 2562582
>>2562559Anyone remember an anon a while back found the relationship advice thread, asked her bf for advice on those anons behalf.. and then told nonnies what her bf thinks they should do. To give 'a male perspective'
iirc they were both autistic too so it was advice from a male tist.. about relationships. That was amazing.
No. 2562597
>>2562551Most women don’t really think about it and think every decision they make is something they came up with themselves. When asked to carefully evaluate why they want something some of them get angry because you’re making them feel uncomfortable and others dig their heels in and say they really do want these things because they think you’re calling them dumb for conforming to things that they’ve been trained to conform to since they were kids. Which isn’t their fault nor does it make them dumb and helpless, just like someone who grew up in a cult isn’t dumb for having had weird beliefs their whole life. And it doesn’t make them a pickme, a pickme is someone who aggressively and consciously undermines other women, even friends, for male validation. That anon is just trying to pick a fight on purpose by calling all women pickmes.
Normal women come in all shapes, sizes and temperaments so not everyone will react positively but not everyone will reject these ideas either. It takes time and self reflection.
Most women live in less than ideal conditions so accepting that there is as much misogyny in the world as there is would make them extremely depressed, and they choose to believe otherwise.
Honestly, all feminists should also know when to pick their battles, because other women aren’t your little pawns and you can’t boss them around and get mad when they refuse to shave, if they’re living in a country where it’s normal to call women hairy manly monkeys when they don’t shave. You’re not changing anyone’s mind that way, in fact you’re just becoming one of the hundred voices telling a woman what to do and getting mad when they choose different.
No. 2562612
>>2562505not if you avoid the typical scarethot and hang out with older people. but if by culture you mean be cool and relevant then yeah maybe. although i think being a
femcel radfem will have a moment in the trend cycle like how draingang made being an incel cool for guys for a little bit.
No. 2562617
>>2562597You just said everything i wanted to say. Calling women pick mes for literally surviving is at least dishonest, and they literally said themselves that it's impossible to interact with society without being "a pick me", so what should every woman do? Turn into a nun and ignore her feelings and desires of simply surviving like a normal human being (having relationships, having fun with friends, and so on)?
I wonder if she would call herself a pick me, because i'm SURE that she interacts with and ignores subtle signs of misogyny every day. Same thing as saying that a communist is not a communist because they have a house. I guess the real solution to being a true radfem is killing yourself kek
No. 2562822
>>2562665I said surviving because i'm assuming that ALL parts of our lives have a certain degree of misogyny in them. When you interact with people in general you are exposing yourself to misogyny, that's what she herself said. To me, that's literally survival, the act of living a normal life in this world. If you are a pick me for interacting with society and culture, then what do you do? Because wether you want or not, we depend on our whole society to be alive. You can only be a shut in if you are a rich woman and that's it, but COMMON women need people around them to be alive, simple as that. Or do you think that to work you don't need to adapt to misogyny and be indirectly humiliated as a woman?
I was not talking about specific things like choosing your partner, even if your partner is the most gentle man, he is still a misogynist at some point and you are adapting yourself to him. There's no such thing as "choosing" to not adapt yourself to a system that has much more power than you. I'm saying that to do ANYTHING in your life you deal with misogyny one way or another and adapt yourself to it one way or another, as you also deal with material circunstances and not everybody can find a radfem friend, also your view kind of has America only in mind? Saying that it's optional puts the fault over women someway and ignores that the patriachy exists in all spheres of life.
No. 2562833
I am so jealous of Nara Smith and honestly I don’t think she’s lying about her age. Obviously if your body creates and gives birth to three children before you even reach the age of 22, you’re going to age at an accelerated rate compared to your peers kek. And I’m also so envious as to how rich she is, is able to cook whatever she wants to eat, probably has a nanny for each baby, her nigel clearly seems to be obsessed with her. And she’s gorgeous as fuck
No. 2562892
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>>2562875I don’t know anon I’m under the impression that being ‘trad’ per se is when you’re super duper religious and never see the light of day and just tend to the chickens (that’s more ballerinafarm), I don’t think Nara falls under the trad umbrella cause she has a whole career and her own life and work outside of her kids and nigel which is what makes me know for a fact she definitely has some nannies and I don’t think there’s anything wrong with that to be frank. Also I don’t believe that wanting to have cute kids and a rich husband is pickmeism kek
>>2562878Yeah it sort of has lavender marriage energy, and he always has a toothpick in his mouth for some reason? KEK why?
>>2562879Well nona this is the unpopular opinions thread and not being judgmental of NS or even desiring her lifestyle is quite a bit unpopular on lolcow lol
No. 2562917
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>>2562913Nara isn’t really an influencer though, she’s been a model outside of social media since she was a teenager and still has jobs outside of the tiktok posting. She posts videos of herself on set often too
No. 2562923
>>2562559No, imageboards are not sacred, and if you live with someone they are going to know what you do on your computer. If you think lolcow is some sort of big secret that no one has ever heard of you're retarded, several of my friends have offhandedly mentioned it to me without me mentioning it to them. Feel free to act secretive about frequenting a normal website on the clearnet if you want and only open it in the depth of the night locked in your closet but lc is not a 'sacred' site kekkk and there would be no one active on here to respond to you if they were all acting like that. Funny screenshots of troons can be found on a hundred other websites as well, the funny content here is not unique in any way.
>>2562597Yeah it's extremely tiresome to hear every woman being called a pickme, it's the same misogynistic crap that happened with NLOG and Karen. It went from meaning something specific (a woman who would intentionally throw other women under the bus to get moid attention) to literally meaning 'any woman that acts normal, or even accidentally does something men don't hate.' That isn't jumping up and down saying 'pick me' as the name pickme suggests, it's just existing as a normie. Some normie women who do normie woman things like shaving and wearing makeup are lesbians with no male friends, are they 'pickmes' for moids too?
>>2562617I agree with most of your post but yes, a communist cannot own property. If they do they're not a real communist.
No. 2562925
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Retards, spergs and low quality mongoloids are the beating heart of any healthy image board, any image board that cares too deeply about maintaining 'quality' inevitably ossifies then crumbles.
The real cancer that kills sites like these are the uptight puritans that suck all of the life out of the board and demand endless bans rather than either ignoring the more boring slapfights or grabbing their own tinfoil caps and joining in on the chaos.
No. 2562935
>>2562822>>2562665>>2562617>>2562597>>2562551Im the op, and yes calling other women pickmes is insulting, but that's the point, unless women act like pickmes they cannot survive, to survive women have to give up their self respect. I don't know how you don't see it, how women defend objectifiying themselves and offering physical and emotional labour that scrotes don't deserve, defending all the shit that scrotes do, projecting their female thinking and inventing all sorts of excuses and copes instead of admitting the truth about them. I don't identify as a radfem and don't say it to make myself seem better than others, i don't blame them for coping at all, in fact i wish i never peaked because it's impossible not to get depressed seeing how rooted misogyny is and what people think my "place" is because i'm a woman even if they never say it outloud, it's actually even more depressing because it's subconscious a lot of the time.
No. 2562941
>>2562920Ntayrt even if she isn’t rich from modeling specifically I think she has to be some type of nepo or trustfund baby because you have to have both pockets
full of cash to have a bunch of kids like that in this economy
No. 2562962
>>2562953Once again, isn’t being trad when you’re adhering to/practicing more traditionalist beliefs? Just having kids and being married isn’t really all that trad anon
>this could not be more fetish…Aren’t you embarrassed to buy into what is actually a porn fantasy for incels?I mean I don’t really have anything to be embarrassed of because I just think she’s gorgeous, her clothes are pretty, the recipes she’s cooking look good, she always looks happy holding and admiring her kids. Also there’s not really anything I’m “buying into” because I don’t purchase anything from her, I don’t use her discount codes or anything, I don’t buy the stuff she’s in advertisements for, so I don’t think I’d go to the extremity of claiming that I’m “buying into a pornographic incel fantasy” if I just think she’s gorgeous and she makes me fantasize about having my own ideal life kek
>>2562957>I’m not mormon >it’s not hard to find a nice looking mormon guy if that’s what you want lol nona I’m not mormon
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>>2562923>a woman who would intentionally throw other women under the bus to get moid attentionThe thing is that is not obvious. When anons think of pickmeism they think of people like shuwu, but many women also engage in a lot of other misogynistic behaviour like nitpicking women's looks even if scrotes are not in the picture but let moids live while looking like a missing link. It being necessary for survival doesn't make it any less detrimental to women as a class. I guess pickme isn't the right term, would handmaiden would be a better term for this?
No. 2562964
>>2562892But she is trad, Mormonism is a trad religion. There isn't non-trad Mormonism. If they are devout Mormons as they claim to be then they are by definition trad religious.
Obviously her lifestyle isn't actually trad, since she's a full time influencer and also extremely rich and doesn't raise her own kids, but no influencer is truly trad under that definition. I think being from a traditional religion and trying to LARP a trad lifestyle on camera is close enough to trad for most people.
Just getting pregnant over and over again seems nightmarish though can't imagine anyone being jealous of that.
No. 2562971
>>2562966I’m confused kek why would I need to be mormon? You don’t need to be mormon to be rich and have kids nonna
>>2562964In the tiktok I tagged she states pretty fluently that she isn’t mormon, and I don’t even think Lucky is either; his family was mormon though
>Just getting pregnant over and over again seems nightmarish though can’t imagine anyone being jealous of that >I’m also so envious as to how rich she is, is able to cook whatever she wants to eat, probably has a nanny for each baby, her nigel clearly seems to be obsessed with her. And she’s gorgeous as fuck No. 2562980
>>2562962okay but is the only place you can get that really an obvious ethot?
>>2562975because they're lazy? if they weren't lazy they wouldn't need escapist tiktoks to aspire to.
No. 2562986
>>2562980I didn’t say looking at her posts and ads were the only thing that makes me think of my ideal life kek
>>2562975Because I don’t want to own a business or go to college or work for some meaningless shit that nobody will care about and will inevitably get pushed aside in hopes to “make a difference”
No. 2562991
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>>2562975I'm pretty envious of this bitch. I hate her art style but the fact that she's more successful and more skilled then I'll ever be makes me want to chew my walls and squeal in impotent rage.
No. 2562996
>>2562990My husband isn’t capable of pushing me or our kids aside because it’s against his culture so his family would actually disown him if he ever tried to turn his back on me, other heterosexual nonnies I recommend finding a scrote with a family like that!
>>2562993I’m sure you feel that way but I’m not really concerned about what other people think about the way I choose to live my life so long as I’m not harming anyone
No. 2563006
>>2562998Actually I’m not incubating anything and I’m not really a maid either but, if thats the way you feel about women who just want to stay home with our kids that’s okay
>>2563000Well nona, simply being a mother who stays at home with your child doesn’t necessarily mean that the husband and wife actually expected themselves to uphold the vows they took upon getting married
No. 2563017
>>2563006I hope it all works out for you and you live a great life. It can be a tough world and I genuinely want to see some people make it, do what you can to build a life that gives you meaning and happiness.
I don't get it but you're and adult and I trust that you have reasons.
No. 2563022
>>2562935You're just misusing the term pickme. That's really not what it means kek. Also you don't have to give up your self respect to survive, unless you live in Saudi Arabia or something.
>>2562953Yeah her whole channel/account (and other tradwife channels/tiktok accounts) always seem like porn to me. I highly doubt many women watch them.
>>2562956Saying something mean about a woman's looks to another woman is not 'pickme' behavior because there's no moid there to get picked by. It's just rude/mean. Being rude/mean does not make you a pickme, you're not inherently moid-aligned or looking for attention from moids just because you aren't perfectly sweet toward other women 100% of the time. Even in a world with no men at all some women would be mean toward each other. Yes, 'handmaiden' is probably a little closer to what you're looking for, although I still wouldn't say it's entirely accurate.
No. 2563028
>>2563017I greatly appreciate that anon! ♥
>>2563022>Her videos where she’s fully clothed and cooking food always seem like porn to me Well we all have life experiences that influence our perspective! I just think she looks gorgeous like a statue
>>2563024Is not wanting to work and wanting to just stay at home really “pick me” behavior? It’s just existing
No. 2563044
>>2563038I’m fairly certain she isn’t referring to stay at home mothers as “bang maids” for the purpose of representing/mimicking the way men talk about women
>>2563039Could you greentext which part of my post I said any of those things? Also I’ve never once seen her post a single video where he slaps her ass or touches her inappropriately
No. 2563047
>>2563044You think weird shit like this is cute lol
No. 2563054
>>2563047They’re just wiggling around, they’re not even eating the takout in these videos
nonny kek? I could be missing it but I didn’t see anything gross happen in this little montage
No. 2563057
>>2563054He’s literally yanking on her and put her in a head lock lol
No. 2563069
>>2563061Ok well (incoming cringe alert) I love wrestling with my nigel because I always win so that’s probably why this doesn’t look concerning to me, however I’ve also never been a
victim of physical abuse of any kind so that could also be why I don’t immediately feel scared for her when watching their tiktoks of them wrestling around
No. 2563079
>>2563073I mean, it’s like a 5 second video of little parts cut from one of her other videos so, none of us have any idea what was actually happening but I’m pretty confident that if things were happening that Nara was not okay with, she wouldn’t have uploaded it to the internet
>>2563074I understand completely if you don’t feel comfortable with things like that nona, but since I’m in a relationship with a man that I feel very safe with and protected by that’s basically why it doesn’t make me feel threatened
No. 2563087
>>2563084Ngl she does look a little annoyed at some points kek, it’s like he’s trying hard to sell that he’s
totally a straight guy
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>>2563087Least shocking grindr hookup reveal incoming
>>2563059This situation would feel extremely condescending for me, in order to be equal
No. 2563139
>>2563028She's not really 'fully clothed' in almost any of her videos though, is she? She's almost always in some kind of lingerie or with lingerie showing, like in the video you posted, and there's a lot of focus on her body in the videos. That's not how cooking videos are shot kek, there are plenty of beautiful women who make videos about cooking that are actually about cooking, not showing off their body in revealing lingerie/loungewear that's not appropriate for strangers to see you in.
>>2563047Yeah him repeatedly slapping her ass on video is so empowering and it's not porny at all. This is definitely for women to watch and aspire to and not coom fodder for tradmoids at all. I think the anon you're responding to might be trolling kek
No. 2563145
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>>2563139I don’t want to make a whole collage of her outfits but this one definitely one of my favorites, but no she is absolutely fully clothed in the majority of her videos, there’s only a few videos where she’s wearing the big elaborate designer outfits that show lots of skin. Also I didn’t claim in my post that I think her videos are made for us to aspire to be her anon kek I was just saying I’m jealous that she’s rich, gorgeous, better at baking and cooking than me, and can afford however many nannies and maids she needs
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>>2563022>Also you don't have to give up your self respect to survive, unless you live in Saudi Arabia or something.I don't know where you live where women don't pretend that makeup is empowering and admit that porn is actually misogynistic and violent but it sounds great
>Saying something mean about a woman's looks to another woman is not 'pickme' behavior because there's no moid there to get picked by. It's just rude/mean. Being rude/mean does not make you a pickme, you're not inherently moid-aligned or looking for attention from moids just because you aren't perfectly sweet toward other women 100% of the time. Even in a world with no men at all some women would be mean toward each other.It's not just "being mean" retard. It's female socialization at work policing women for not performing femininity. We don't live in a moid free world so women being retarded about other women not performing femininity and moralfagging about behaviour doesn't exist in a vaccum
>Yes, 'handmaiden' is probably a little closer to what you're looking for, although I still wouldn't say it's entirely accurate.Then what would you call this behaviour then?
No. 2563154
>>2563145>'cooking' content>wearing halloween glove sleeves she can't even touch food withwtf
>Also I didn’t claim in my post that I think her videos are made for us to aspire to be herNo but you acted like it was crazy to call her videos porn-adjacent. Between the disgusting behavior (butt slapping, choking, etc) by Lucky Blue in her videos, the constant fetishization of her pregnant body with her wearing as little clothing as possible, and the lack of focus on the actual cooking, yeah it's obviously porny content.
>no she is absolutely fully clothed in the majority of her videosAbsolutely not. I just checked her tiktok to make sure and the first like 100 videos were almost all in lingerie or like ballgown type high fashion clothing.
No. 2563157
>>2563150>PicrelWe will never be free.
Also, why get pressed over women not wearing makeup? I've never touched mascara in my life and I don't think I'm "superior" to makeup-wearing women. What is this made up rivalry shit
No. 2563160
>>2563150I don't wear makeup almost ever and most of my friends don't wear it either, it's not like you HAVE to wear makeup to exist in society. You literally don't have to, no one cares if you wear it or not unless you live in a total shithole dump. Similarly you don't have to participate in porn or pretend it's good to exist in society. I talk about how disgusting and degenerate porn is all the time and all my friends agree; if I didn't, I wouldn't be friends with them anymore. Seems weird that you are trying to justify these things as normal when they're not required for any normal woman outside of shitholes.
>It's female socialization at work policing women for not performing femininity. Sure, the things in your screenshot are, but your original post just said
>engage in a lot of other misogynistic behaviour like nitpicking women's looks which has nothing to do with performing femininity or not. Nitpicking another woman's looks can mean anything from saying 'she's too fat' to 'I don't like her haircolor' and none of that is intrinsically or inherently related to moids. Again, even if you lived on an island with zero moids women would still have opinions about each other's looks, just like we all have opinions about male looks too. You goalpost-shifted to some specific nasty comments policing women for not wearing makeup, but that's not what you said in the post I replied to.
>Then what would you call this behaviour then?For the most part, bullying. I don't know the motivation of those women and whether it has to do with performing for males or not. Some of the comments seem specifically handmaideny, like the middle one, but 'you should have' just sounds like someone who wants to bully the woman in the video by saying 'you're ugly.'
No. 2563161
>>2563155Maybe i should've pointed out that this
>>2563150 is a response to this woman
>>2562963 but no i'm not the pickme for rightfully calling other women out for being retarded about performing femininity. While i understand women are pressured to be aesthetically pleasing and it's to want to appear attractive to their peers, makeup is not and will never be empowering and is a tool of objectification.
No. 2563189
>>2563161Oh, sorry then
nonnie, you had nothing to do with the discussion
No. 2563192
>>2563153Ok well I don’t know her personally so I can’t answer as to whether or not she’s an anachan
>>2563154>disgusting behavior by lucky in her videos You’re saying that as if this is something that occurs in every single one of her videos? This is not true. Also the vast majority of her videos, she’s fully clothed.
>>2563156I defend her because I find her to be very gorgeous and undeserving of the extensive amount of judgement she receives, I feel like she’s not doing anything wrong
>>2563183She said in the video I tagged which was posted very recently that she isn’t mormon…
>>2563185Well by definition she’s actually a model, being an influencer is just being someone who posts internet content. Unless we’re changing the term “celebrity” to “influencer” now
No. 2563202
>>2563186Women look weird with makeup too. You're just used to how it looks because that's how you were raised.
>I hate the anon mentality that everything women have done, moids should now do bc "fairness"I was saying it because I think moids are ugly and have bad skin and they should try to disguise that with makeup. Burqas work too.
No. 2563204
>>2563192>You’re saying that as if this is something that occurs in every single one of her videos?No, it doesn't have to. If it happens in some of her videos that's enough.
>Also the vast majority of her videos, she’s fully clothed. Fully clothed in lingerie or skimpy evening wear. Come on, none of that is normal to wear in cooking videos.
>>2563194And that is relevant how? It's not very common for women to bully other women about not wearing makeup. It's very normal not to wear makeup. I went pretty much my whole life not wearing makeup regularly and no one has ever said anything negative to me about it, same with many or most of my friends, so I don't think this evil pro-makeup bullying is all that widespread. The original claim was 'all non-radfem women are pickmes' and when people said no they're not you pivoted to this false premise that all non-radfem women bully each other into wearing makeup which is also clearly not true. A small number of women sometimes do that but it's far from the norm.
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>>2563200Generally makeup free judgers and picrel are two sides of the same shit-coin. Pick-me one wants to be praised for having natural beauty and not needing makeup (or looking like that terrifying yt tradwoman pearl) and pick-me two views this as personal attack against their delusional lifestyle
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British food isn't that bad and I'm not even british. It's just homely.
French and Italian food are good but you can't say that to a French or an Italian because they are fucking obnoxious about having the "best" cuisine in the world and they need to be taken down a peg.
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>>2563204Thank you for giving me a reason to go watch her videos and look at her in a bunch of beautiful outfits but in 90% of her videos she isn’t dressed inappropriately
No. 2563212
>>2563202I think subtle or minimal makeup can look good on both men and women, but the way most people wear makeup it looks weird on women and would look weird on men. I think some moids would benefit from lightly covering up acne with spot concealer, which also tends to look normal on women, filling in/gelling their brows if they have light or sparse brows, or putting a little color on their lips - I actually hate how moids often walk around with crusty chapped white lips so I would actually appreciate if they wore some kind of tinted balm or lip gloss kek. I'm not sure if it's really good for either men or women to wear makeup but I could see those things looking good on both sexes.
>>2563208I can't agree with this at all, maybe British food could be good in theory but when I went there the food was literally the most awful food I've ever had. It was almost all inedible.
No. 2563220
>>2563200as someone who's never worn makeup, some anons just seem mad about something else, i don't believe its really about what not usingor using makeup means to them, there's like an underlying motive and thats why it always ends up in derail
>>2563208every time i see beans like this i want to puke, had a video show up on my yt recommended and i blocked the channel
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>>2563224Maybe they don't know what refried beans are
>>2563225Oh yeah, it's great. I love having all my friends replaced by other animals
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>>2563215>>2563218This is her most recent cooking video outfit and this isn’t lingerie or a ballgown it’s just a strapless designer dress
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>>2563231>disco-verkek I just noticed that now
No. 2563239
>>2563196You're not a horrible person because you you wear makeup but your choices don't exist in a vacuum, given the society that we are in it is a performance of femininity
>>2563207No one said anything about makeup being about natural beauty, in fact my argument wasn't about whether makeup or no makeup looks better but about women policing other for not conforming to the expectations placed on them because they're female
No. 2563242
>>2563228NTA we really have a lot of autist nonnies on here but i don’t think she was actually calling her a bitch for real nona lol
>>2563238Don’t worry anon I’m pretty sure most of us could tell you were joking
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>>2563243She would look good like this. Can we speculate on rib removal here or is this too tinfoil-y?
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>>2563246this is from harpers bazaar and says she was 24?
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>>2563253Miss you forever anona
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Speaking of makeup, this is probably my least favourite trashy summer movie but their makeup looks really good. I think it's bc the lip gloss is a plot device that I remember this
No. 2563266
>>2563229But that’s what I’m saying. Thinking about it is addictive, it’s comforting to carefully craft your perfect suicide. It’s like a mental pacifier for depressed people. But that mindset encourages us to live poorly, make shortsighted choices, and numb ourselves because “I’m not going to live much longer anyway.” And then years pass, and you’re still alive, except you wasted all those years wishing you were dead, and yet here you are, still in one piece, still with life left to live. I don’t want to spend the rest of my life with that kind of tunnel vision. I don’t want to die, I want to achieve a life where I wake up and the thought of suicide is disturbing and absurd.
>>2563240>people who are against suicideThat is… most of the earth. Hurting yourself is bad. I’m sorry you have medical bills but are you really going to resent people for telling you that they love you dearly?
No. 2563273
>>2563268I don’t think anyone cared enough about her to consider her lying about her age to be milk, I never really focused that much on her age
>>2563271Anon, I don’t even use tiktok. The tiktok website is just the only website that we can post links to videos from, other than youtube, but there aren’t really people posting every single nara smith video on youtube. Also
>Insist on posting about and spreading I made one singular post about my unpopular opinion in the corresponding thread…
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>>2563275Some of them. Others have overwhelming mental difficulties that stands in the way of them doing stuff or diagnosed mental illness and genuinely want to live functional lives
ugh No. 2563279
>>2563274Me responding to your comment about my post describing it as “tiktok fag anons insisting on posting about and spreading” the topic of a young mother who’s lying about her age online isn’t really taking it personally anon, it’s me responding to you explaining why I had to link the video using tiktok…also I don’t really think it’s necessary to autistically be like
>HURR DURR LOOK WHAT THE TIKTOK FAGS ARE because I did not really take into consideration if which individual apps that the videos are posted on would matter
No. 2563281
>>2563273>consider her lying about her age to be milkthere's so much sperging in those threads sometimes i forget about the milk part kek
>>2563271>That's why only tiktok-fag anons insist on posting about and spreading thisthose threads constantly have tiktoks embedded though, but its not like her age is discussed or trending on tiktok so yeah you're right
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>>2563282A place for everything and everything in it's place nona
No. 2563295
>>2563289No love isn't enough because there is bills to pay and people judge if you have no degree because it means you're stupid
>>2563292What would changing her attitude entail
No. 2563296
>>2563249Ofcourse i am pro suicide. People who are born privileged will never understand what it's like to be stuck in a shithole as a poorfag with no family support and a shit load of health issues that require money you dont have and cant get because the min salary in your shithole is like 150 bucks a month. The fact anon is talking about how your family and friends will feel as if everyone had a good family unit or friends speaks about how anti suicide people always come from an extremely privileged place.
>>2563266>but are you really going to resent people for telling you that they love you dearly?That's my point, they never love you, they are just telling you that because it satisfies their egos. Their love is always selfish. Most people will not help you in a time of need, and if you have people that will lend you a hand, then you will be less likely to be suicidal overall. Anti suicide preachers will call you selfish but they never volunteer at a local homeless shelter, soup kitchen, will never give you 50 bucks if you ask them to. They really dont care and just repeat whats socially acceptable to fit in and not because they genuinely believe in what they say.
No. 2563327
>>2563293There are situations in which such isn't feasible. Nobody anticipates ever developing locked-in syndrome. Additionally, many of those individuals, particularly those who are impoverished, are unable to pay for high-quality care that could improve their quality of life (e.g., changing positions every two hours, planned feedings, occasional outings). I have witnessed individuals with medical problems repeatedly wind up in the hospital due to inadequate treatment from their caregivers, unfortunately developing bronchoaspiration, impetigo, pressure sores, etc. For those with a poor prognosis and little to no possibility of leading fulfilling lives, there ought to be a choice. No one should get pressured and protocols should exist.
No. 2563440
>>2563415I agree so much, I also have a very heavy period and I would have had to bring a packet of wipes around with me everywhere to clean the blood off of me every time I changed it, and then I’d have to dispose of them anyway so why not just save myself the headache and use a tampon? Why is it that women have to suffer through this messy complicated torture contraption in the name of uwu being environmentally friendly when moids and corporations don’t give a fuck and scoff at the concept of even caring? I try very hard to reduce waste and avoid buying anything that will leave unnecessary plastic waste, so I will let myself the luxury of disposable pads and tampons.
When I was trying to switch to a cup I was trialling it at home and every single time, no matter how many tutorials I watched and how many different techniques I tried, it would leak. I would literally cause myself pain trying to get it in the right position and it would still leak. I think it’s great how it works for some people but it genuinely baffles me how they manage, they must have very light periods or something.
No. 2563453
>>2563440Some women act really weird when you say that you just like using pads. I don’t want to insert anything, it’s uncomfortable for me.
>ree plastic waste!There is so much more we can do to reduce plastic waste before attempting to police how women use sanitary products. Needles and tubes are also made of plastic, should we stop using them too? Diva cups and tampons wearers are always like that kek.
No. 2563460
>>2563458The reality is that most women crave male validation. That’s why lib feminism works so well.
You can get to still chase men while labelling all your choices as “feminism”. It’s so nice to feel like you are doing the right thing without you doing absolutely nothing to self-analyze and have accountability.
>Plastic surgery So feminist of you!
>Prostitution Yass girl!
>hook up culture!Show it to em! Boss girl!
No. 2563463
>>2563461But I mean it’s true .
>which sex is the one most likely to be pedos?>which sex is the one most likely to rape?>which sex is the one most likely to abandon their children?>which sex is the one most likely to do a mass shooting?>which sex is the one most likely to torture animals?>which sex is the one most likely to murder?Exactly.
No. 2563472
>>2563463all signs of male privilege if anything, especially the willingness to externalize your mental illness onto someone else besides yourself
>blessed are the meekis slave morality
No. 2563480
>>2563472But women don't go on shooting sprees, stab men because they watch porn or make gross deepfakes about random women, children or even moids. If you make fun of someone being raped most women would find that very offensive
>>2563461>the only actual difference is that they have more options at their disposal, and logically pick the most advantageous oneWhat are you talking about
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we need to start calling male columbiners gay . we will solve school shootings forever
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>>2563472That’s just proof that women are FAR more morally superior to men though.
>blessed are the meekYou are a retard if you think that pointing out that men are the shitty human beings is a sign that women are meek or weak.
No. 2563509
>>2563461You know I automatically find people who try to generalize that women are like men quite stupid, when that isn’t the case, you literally just need to go outside and you’ll realize it.
It’s one thing to say that women are capable of doing harm , but it’s another to say
>Women are just as bad as men!1!1!1 You are probably a scrote on stealth or a very pickmeisha.
No. 2563550
>>2563472I don't see how it's a privilege to do any of that. If women were exactly the same as men internally, we'd do the same things, and we have guns to make up for lack of physical strength. We just don't want to.
>inb4 "not wanting to do that is slave morality, you're just meek"Having standards and principles for behavior isn't slave morality, unless your idea of freedom is degeneracy (in which case you're unfit for human community/societies, probably unsafe to other living beings and should be put down).
No. 2563585
>>2563525If they are going to be reborn just let them try and get a better body kek, unless you are buddhist, but then we would be talking about religion and that's not the point.
>>2563577Many women that get pregnant start loving their babies before they are even born and feel extreme emptiness once loosing the baby. Imagine pairing that emptiness with the extreme sadness of being raped. It seems like you are lacking empathy and that helps no one.
No. 2563615
>>2563605Alright, next time be more clear and say "I hate women, specially
victims" because you are unable to empathize with the fact that someone wants to keep the being she loves. I'm all for abortion but not everyone feels the same and feminism is exactly about considering the feelings of women, you can't treat women as a monolith. The same way some women don't feel anything for the blob inside their uterus, some woman do feel and it can be psychologically destructive to take that from them.
No. 2563634
>>2563625I’ve seen women go to pro life rallies and talk about how they’re selfless for keeping babies from rape and with that narrative anti abortion people just use it as a gotcha to say “well look this woman loved her baby and she’s not so selfish thinking only about herself!”. It’s a bad look for all women.
No. 2563646
>>2563615>>2563617Just because it's a woman's choice doesn't make it any less degrading and masochistic.
>>2563635The woman in the video isn't a thirdie, she's a white woman in America
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>>2563660Most women don't tell the rapist they're pregnant and just live quiet normal lives with their children
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>>2563654Yeah but abortion is caring about women's feelings the same way. Her feelings of discomfort for having a baby that they don't want. If you agree, the woman can have feelings, but if you don't agree the woman can't have feelings?
Also, what does the woman and the baby have to do with the intentions of the rapist? If the woman wants to keep the baby, that is HERS because the body is hers, then what is the problem? If someone made a cake while angry and hateful, and you were hungry, wouldnt you eat it anyways because at the end of the day it's literally just a cake?
No. 2563675
>>2563668This is what I'm saying anon, she's angry and only seeing the situation in black and white. It's kind of like hitler logic
>problem exists>realize problem can be solved by mass genocide>do mass genocideLike I get what anon is saying, it would be great to cleanse the earth of rapists but end don't really justify the means, as usual
also not covert jew sperging, anon does not see jews as a "problem", hitler did No. 2563681
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>>2563678>>2563668Yeah whatever do you mean anon
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>>2563697>Me saying I think their choice is stupid doesn’t mean I’m trying to dictate it.If this is just like your opinion man, then that's fine. Anon support both extremes of the horseshoe, as long as they are never too unbalanced
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Solange makes better music than Beyonce.
No. 2563749
>>2563192So she's not an influencer…. She's just an influencer? Also she had maybe a handful of actual photoshoots. Actual models get a photoshoot like twice a month, she gets them twice a year. She's way more known for her cooking videos but when they're obviously trad bait she hides behind the whole "I work though!! I'm not a trad wife" thing as if someone who pops out loads of kids before 25 and is always making half naked cooking videos while pregnant from scratch, while zooming in on the bump isn't obvious conservative dog whistling.
Also Nara has said she isn't a hardcore Mormon, but she did convert to LDS after meeting lucky.
https://www.reddit.com/r/LAinfluencersnark/s/95tL4UcOZ0 No. 2563776
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>>2563770You can disagree about trad wifing or whatever, but to claim she's not an influencer is absolutely laughable. Every single conversation pertaining to her labels her as an influencer, most of her money is from tiktok. She even has a wiki page. You have to be seriously delusional to attempt to downplay her influencer status. In fact she'd probably slap you for that alone
No. 2563783
>>2563776I mean…ok? I don’t really know how you want me to respond, cause at this point I’d consider her more of an actual celebrity if news reports on her regularly and she has ad campaigns and modeling work you see outside of the internet
>>2563779Hyperfixating on linguistics is when you obsess over actual words for an extended period of time kek, me saying that I consider her to be more of a celebrity as opposed to just an influencer
No. 2563789
>>2563783First she's not an influencer, because she's not well known enough and then when I've made several points on why she's an influencer suddenly she magically becomes a celebrity? Someone can be an influencer and celebrity, they're not exclusive
Also to my knowledge she doesn't really work as a model much. Even on her IMG page she's only had 3 main photoshoots. She's claimed to be in runways but there was apparently no evidence of this either. She probably just does like a photoshoot or two a year so she can lean into it when people accuse her of posting trad propaganda
No. 2563796
>>2563786I would like for an anon to explain what they get out of this content, other than
>this makes me angry!I think there was one anon who was a fan of her wearing all black and slicking her hair into various styles with a single greasy curl hanging in the middle. Or, I don't get it
No. 2563811
>>2563802That’s ok
nonny, it’s just that this is the unpopular opinions thread…we’re allowed to post opinions that may be unpopular in this thread kek. I’m jealous as fuck of her too lmao!
>I find these images and videos of her offensive I can understand if you don’t like the videos where Lucky is with her and he’s chewing on a toothpick smacking his wifes ass, peacocking as hard as he possibly can like he’s John Travolta, because that’s not what content I was referring to when I said I’m quite jealous of her
No. 2563814
>>2563809Please do learn2greentext if that’s what you were attempting to do
nonny, but I don’t think you understand the difference between someone who’s an internet influencer and a celebrity
No. 2563907
>>2563880No one's forcing her to have multiple back to back pregnancies (dangerous for her and the baby) while starving all the pregnancy weight away and staying married to an alt right moid. She's extremely careless with her children (having kids while having multiple health issues, having them back to back and despite all her health issues chooses home births, then ignoring her toddlers all day to make food) but we all know damn well she doesn't give a flying fuck about her kids and just does so for the aesthetic all while hiding behind "but but I'm a model too!"
She has the money and resources to do whatever she chooses, she's not even from a Mormon family either so she doesn't have that excuse, she's from Germany ffs which is super liberal. She choose this lifestyle for the attention
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this is absolutely cringe and pathetic
No. 2564211
>>2564170People get threatened by all sorts of things and drag others into it. Esp in workplace settings you get to see a never ending stream of people who 'have it in' for someone else right away and sometimes you've got no idea what's even threatening them but you know it has to be that.
The older you get, the less it seems to be about looks but it's always something.
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I don't care if it's natural, some area of your mind has to be genuinely crazy if you would deliberately get pregnant/give birth. It's not inherently a bad thing that women like this are somewhat fucked in the head. It's how humans survived as a species. We have women like that to thank for us all being here, but I still think you have to be at least a little bit insane to know what childbirth is like and still say "yeah I want that too". Now despite this opinion, I also believe that having a woman give birth for a couple is an act that's inherently evil even if "nobody was hurt". Surrogacy or "lab babies" are just glorified human trafficking no matter how bad plastic female celebrities and narcissistic gays want you to think it's anything progressive.
No. 2564338
>>2564321and finding out through other males kek like she did sleep with them or acted like a fucking pickmeisha, it checks out. sometimes, women do act jealous over petty shit but so do males, it's not really a big deal if you know how to handle it. i remember being glared at by some friend of my friends because the moid she liked started to act randomly friendly with me and i just flee from there, fuck that, i'm not playing that game of being a
victim of other women l
No. 2564349
>>2564338Me too, I’ve had women be condescending with me for that reason, but i still have plenty of female friends kek.
People like OP are often the type who think they’re hot stuff and act insufferable. Had a friend like her in high school, she taught every scrote had a crush on her and I remember that wherever any of my friends would say that they liked a guy she would always say “Oh! I am chatting with this one! We are so much friends! He flirts with me!”.
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>>2564359And when they break up they come back expecting you to accept them with open arms kek.
No. 2564365
>>2564250How do you define "crazy" then? People run marathons for fun, climb steep mountains, swim with sharks and so on, all for nothing. After giving birth you get a baby, a literal human made from your own genes so there is a massively huge reward for the hardships faced. That baby will grow up to care for you and society when you're old so it's a life long reward that benefits you as well as the tribe for the cost of that short term pain. Being pregnant and having a newborn also typically comes with feel-good hormones, and the female body eventually bounces back to normal.
>I also believe that having a woman give birth for a couple is an act that's inherently evil even if "nobody was hurt"I agree with this. The baby is hurt, and generally so is the mother. The social bond is formed prior to birth so it's a traumatic experience to have it ripped away. The negative impacts have been observed, but I don't think it's fully mapped out yet because people don't want to admit it's bad.
No. 2564369
>>2563973She sings and plays piano and guitar in her videos. Idk if she plays any others.
>>2563974Yes, mostly, although they cowrite which I think still counts as writing. This is common for a lot of bands. Just because you aren't the main composer in your band doesn't make you not a musician.
>>2563986Yeah her brother's solo music is a lot more boring than hers with him, so whatever she contributes to the songs makes them better. Her brother's production is cool and interesting, but the combo of the two of them started an entire offshoot subgenre which I had never heard before, so they actually did bring something original to pop music which I can't say about any other pop musicians in the last 10-15 years that I know of. I am a musician in a completely different genre but when I first heard Eilish's music (instead of just hearing about her and assuming it was bad) I was impressed, especially considering her age. Lots of people who go on to be good musicians in their 20s-30s absolutely suck when they're teens, but she was a very skilled singer to begin with at a young age.
>>2564011It depends, a producer can be the composer, a producer can be the person who mixes and cleans up the music after the fact (like fixing EQ, levels, etc), or a producer can even just be someone who gives feedback on the music and the recordings. A writer can be someone who writes (part of or all of) the lyrics, but can also be the actual composer. It depends on the genre too. In most acoustic music the 'songwriter' would be the person who writes the instrumental parts as well as the lyrics and melody, but in pop a producer often writes the whole song while the 'writer' only does the lyrics or even just slightly changes the lyrics to personalize them. It depends a lot and musicians tweak who they give credits to depending who they want to receive the most royalties and accolades.
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Both Frisk and Chara are boys and I seriously don't understand how could anyone perceive them as girls or female
No. 2564398
>>2564365>reward>willyou see a human being like a cynical investment, much like millions of
abusive and narcissistic parents that thought the same as you which is part of why they opted to have a child. how a child will behave is actually often up in the air, which is ok because they're individuals. in the meantime you see stuff like working out as being a waste even though its benefits are well-established and less subject to entropy, similar to how men that hate women rant about rich cat ladies. while not all of them are fulfilled, some are. everyone is different.
>feel good hormones >bounces back to normal it's like you're trying to erase the existence of PPD and the longterm effects many women experience. like it's fine if you want to have a more positive mindset about childbirth and caring for children but your deterministic approach is designed to mislead, much like a car salesmans' tactics.
No. 2564418
>>2564353Or the normalization of moids demanding women to cut off their friends (even if they do it in more manipulative ways like saying "you can go" but then acting passive aggressive, hinting he thinks she is cheating, etc)
If women en masse had conspiracy's about how boys nights were massive gang bangs, told women to not allow their partners to go out with other male friends, etc they would be ready to hang us yet somehow it's become so normal for women to get isolated in relationships